Apparently Victoria Square in Belfast had the best Boxing Day in its history in terms of sales and footfall this year,largely attributable to free state shoppers taking the benefit of favourable exchange rates! Thanks lads, on behalf of Arlene, the tax take will help pay for the RHI c**k up!
It's nice to see the decent people of Ireland helping out their poorer less fortunate fellow country people.
However the Rossfan family always shop local.
I'm sure the brexit man will be on with a logical (quoted) view on why goods are cheaper up north than in the Republic.... even taking into consideration fuel overnight accommodation possibly, to spend their highly taxed earnings in a cluster feck that is Belfast... its practically on its knees!
Goods are obviously temporarily cheaper in the North, as these were purchased by the stores when Sterling was worth something. Expect to see price rises early in 2017.
As for spending your Stephen's day in Belfast, it suggests that people need to get a life.
Quote from: T Fearon on December 27, 2016, 11:21:07 PM
Apparently Victoria Square in Belfast had the best Boxing Day in its history in terms of sales and footfall this year,largely attributable to free state shoppers taking the benefit of favourable exchange rates! Thanks lads, on behalf of Arlene, the tax take will help pay for the RHI c**k up!
Actually, the increased sales will provide additional VAT and corporation tax revenues for the UK government treasury and not a single penny will go to the N.Ireland assembly. So, our southern cousins are sending part of their money to Mrs May & Co.
We in the North depend on three main sources of income, the block grant from UK treasury, the business and domestic rate system and the tax on plastic bags. So the RHI payments over the next twenty years will be part paid by UK treasury and the remainder from the income that should have been spent on health, education or capital investment in infrastructure.
Quote from: armaghniac on December 28, 2016, 12:09:53 AM
As for spending your Stephen's day in Belfast, it suggests that people need to get a life.
:D
:D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 12:06:15 AM
I'm sure the brexit man will be on with a logical (quoted) view on why goods are cheaper up north than in the Republic.... even taking into consideration fuel overnight accommodation possibly, to spend their highly taxed earnings in a cluster feck that is Belfast... its practically on its knees!
Milltown, with the motorway system down South Belfast is only 3 hours away from Roscommon
The key variable is the £5 bottle of wine. Will the price stay the same or will it be jacked up? Sterling probably has further to fall cos Brexit has not been planned but is backed by a small minority.
Quote from: seafoid on December 28, 2016, 06:34:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 12:06:15 AM
I'm sure the brexit man will be on with a logical (quoted) view on why goods are cheaper up north than in the Republic.... even taking into consideration fuel overnight accommodation possibly, to spend their highly taxed earnings in a cluster feck that is Belfast... its practically on its knees!
Milltown, with the motorway system down South Belfast is only 3 hours away from Roscommon
The key variable is the £5 bottle of wine. Will the price stay the same or will it be jacked up? Sterling probably has further to fall cos Brexit has not been planned but is backed by a small minority.
Actually cheaper again, I managed to get 12 bottles of various wines at £4.50, is there no end to this madness? My wife's Cork family who spend xmas with us every year said they aren't happy with how things are in the South, said it's getting better, but money wise not and having to work till he's 67 (as we are now up here)
I'd say getting to Fermanagh would be ok from Rossies but three hours to get to Belfast shopping is pushing it, took me 45 minutes just to get parked!!
Nobody from Ros would want to go to Belfast.
It even makes Athlone (Leinster side and Connacht side in Westmeath) look good :D
As for Tony and his "Free State" and "Boxing Day"......
How absolutely British/Unionist is that? :'(
Quote from: Rossfan on December 28, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Nobody from Ros would want to go to Belfast.
It even makes Athlone (Leinster side and Connacht side in Westmeath) look good :D
As for Tony and his "Free State" and "Boxing Day"......
How absolutely British/Unionist is that? :'(
Tbf Ros wouldn't be high on people from Belfast either... strange that
Quote from: Rossfan on December 28, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
Nobody from Ros would want to go to Belfast.
It even makes Athlone (Leinster side and Connacht side in Westmeath) look good :D
As for Tony and his "Free State" and "Boxing Day"......
How absolutely British/Unionist is that? :'(
Indeed. He buys a poppy from a local poppy seller because he doesn't want to offend her, yet he's happy to continually offend people from the Republc by referring to is the Free State. A complete idiot.
Whatever about Belfast newry has been mental this week. I saw at least 3 Corduff footballers up spending Banty's money in the Quays!!! 15 minutes it took me to get a parking space in a car park that was supposed to have spaces!!! It was wild full of the freestaters!!!
Quote from: armaghniac on December 28, 2016, 12:09:53 AM
Goods are obviously temporarily cheaper in the North, as these were purchased by the stores when Sterling was worth something. Expect to see price rises early in 2017.
As for spending your Stephen's day in Belfast, it suggests that people need to get a life.
Brexit with the fall in Sterling means a drop in living standards. NI doesnt have the manufacturing capacity to take serious advantage of the cheaper pound. Another fall in sterling could see products withheld from shops in NI. Marmite was a warning. Opposition to Brexit will come via the currency.
Quote from: seafoid on December 28, 2016, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 28, 2016, 12:09:53 AM
Goods are obviously temporarily cheaper in the North, as these were purchased by the stores when Sterling was worth something. Expect to see price rises early in 2017.
As for spending your Stephen's day in Belfast, it suggests that people need to get a life.
Brexit with the fall in Sterling means a drop in living standards. NI doesnt have the manufacturing capacity to take serious advantage of the cheaper pound. Another fall in sterling could see products withheld from shops in NI. Marmite was a warning. Opposition to Brexit will come via the currency.
Apparently living standards have been poor since the fall of the banks, with no one having a pay rise (according to some), that's nearly ten years now (and the smart consummers from the south have been coming up during that whole time), also anyone i know has not moved on to the street, it did affect my mum and dad but i believe that was more bad judgement by them than the fall of the banks, it also affected people who invested in property, but most working class people would not have been in a position to buy houses (buy to lent)
Brexit is an unknown reality, not one poster here knows whats going to happen, pure prediction based on nothing, has it hasn't happened before... even the experts can't agree on this. The only thing that they can agree on is that there will be an initial drop in the sterling until confidence is gained with new trade agreements, plenty of small to med size manufacturing jobs here, they'll adopt, aerospace industry is worth 1.16 billion, plus all the other support service jobs in IT have been doing well
What i have noticed is Belfast hotels have never been busier, with new ones opening or expanding, shops over Xmas bunged and doing a roaring trade (considering a lot of internet shopping being done)
Not on the beans and toast yet (i love that though) and i doubt very much we'll end up like the 70's or on 4 day weeks (like we did when the banks fecked up) so keep up with what you want to happen to your northern cousins, why anyone would wish ill on people is beyond me
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 28, 2016, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 28, 2016, 12:09:53 AM
Goods are obviously temporarily cheaper in the North, as these were purchased by the stores when Sterling was worth something. Expect to see price rises early in 2017.
As for spending your Stephen's day in Belfast, it suggests that people need to get a life.
Brexit with the fall in Sterling means a drop in living standards. NI doesnt have the manufacturing capacity to take serious advantage of the cheaper pound. Another fall in sterling could see products withheld from shops in NI. Marmite was a warning. Opposition to Brexit will come via the currency.
Apparently living standards have been poor since the fall of the banks, with no one having a pay rise (according to some), that's nearly ten years now (and the smart consummers from the south have been coming up during that whole time), also anyone i know has not moved on to the street, it did affect my mum and dad but i believe that was more bad judgement by them than the fall of the banks, it also affected people who invested in property, but most working class people would not have been in a position to buy houses (buy to lent)
Brexit is an unknown reality, not one poster here knows whats going to happen, pure prediction based on nothing, has it hasn't happened before... even the experts can't agree on this. The only thing that they can agree on is that there will be an initial drop in the sterling until confidence is gained with new trade agreements, plenty of small to med size manufacturing jobs here, they'll adopt, aerospace industry is worth 1.16 billion, plus all the other support service jobs in IT have been doing well
What i have noticed is Belfast hotels have never been busier, with new ones opening or expanding, shops over Xmas bunged and doing a roaring trade (considering a lot of internet shopping being done)
Not on the beans and toast yet (i love that though) and i doubt very much we'll end up like the 70's or on 4 day weeks (like we did when the banks fecked up) so keep up with what you want to happen to your northern cousins, why anyone would wish ill on people is beyond me
The UK deficit is 6% of GDP so the UK is living beyond its means. There is an easy solution called taxing the super rich but they will resist.
2017 is going to be very interesting.
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
the South is better than England at looking after people. Part of the problem the UK has is that the Tories don't understand what drives the deficit. The North of England never recovered from deindustrialisation.
I've never been up the north to shop.
Hard enough to find the money to spend it down here
MR it is not correct to say nobody can predict what will happen. If you want to hose the car and there is a hole in the hose you can pretend there isn't and feign surprise when only a small amount of water reaches the car.
The UK economy has serious structural problems that mean a happy ending is very unlikely. The government spends more than it takes in. The country imports more than it exports. And Brexit will cut it off from its main export market. Productivity is stagnant. Other than that everything is fine.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 27, 2016, 11:52:46 PM
It's nice to see the decent people of Ireland helping out their poorer less fortunate fellow country people.
However the Rossfan family always shop local.
They always breed locally as well.
Quote from: seafoid on December 28, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
MR it is not correct to say nobody can predict what will happen. If you want to hose the car and there is a hole in the hose you can pretend there isn't and feign surprise when only a small amount of water reaches the car.
The UK economy has serious structural problems that mean a happy ending is very unlikely. The government spends more than it takes in. The country imports more than it exports. And Brexit will cut it off from its main export market. Productivity is stagnant. Other than that everything is fine.
So what you are saying has been happening for years anyway, brexit has had nothing to do with the imports and exports problem.... so it's down to the government to find new trades outside of Europe... now if I'm not mistaken Europe is the smallest and possibly the smallest population in terms of continent, and not even all the European countries are in the European Union... would it be out of the realms of fantasy to suggest that Britain may trade successfully outside of it? Yes they are the closest and easiest to trade with but ffs man your doomsday situation might not happen!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 07:35:31 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 28, 2016, 06:37:56 PM
MR it is not correct to say nobody can predict what will happen. If you want to hose the car and there is a hole in the hose you can pretend there isn't and feign surprise when only a small amount of water reaches the car.
The UK economy has serious structural problems that mean a happy ending is very unlikely. The government spends more than it takes in. The country imports more than it exports. And Brexit will cut it off from its main export market. Productivity is stagnant. Other than that everything is fine.
So what you are saying has been happening for years anyway, brexit has had nothing to do with the imports and exports problem.... so it's down to the government to find new trades outside of Europe... now if I'm not mistaken Europe is the smallest and possibly the smallest population in terms of continent, and not even all the European countries are in the European Union... would it be out of the realms of fantasy to suggest that Britain may trade successfully outside of it? Yes they are the closest and easiest to trade with but ffs man your doomsday situation might not happen!
A few years ago flights across Europe were cut for 2 days because of an ash cloud from a volcano in Iceland. 14000 flights per day were cancelled. That is how much economic activity Europe generates each day. Delhi to Bombay is the busiest flight traffic in India .200 per day.
The UK needs to find 500m people who are as rich as Europe.
Simples.
I see you're a glass half empty type person, depressing as you make it, it's not bad, but well plod on. Giving up isn't an option really.... and once it gets too bad I'll skip over the border and make a fortune as you're are doing soo well
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 07:59:46 PM
I see you're a glass half empty type person, depressing as you make it, it's not bad, but well plod on. Giving up isn't an option really.... and once it gets too bad I'll skip over the border and make a fortune as you're are doing soo well
I'm actually quite optimistic but I think the systemic challenges facing the UK are unlikely to be addressed. The Uk needs higher taxes on corporate wealth and on the ultra rich, If that happens maybe things will pick up. But you can't magic away 35 years of doing the wrong thing. I would recommend "the road to recovery" by Andrew Smithers if you are interested in solutions.
I reversed the trend yesterday and got a few excellent bargains in Kildare Village,where I spotted a few Northern Protestant/Unionists of my acquaintance as well as an All Ireland winning manager.
Can't beat a bargain whether it be euros or sterling in any location!
Quote from: T Fearon on December 29, 2016, 10:50:51 AM
I reversed the trend yesterday and got a few excellent bargains in Kildare Village,where I spotted a few Northern Protestant/Unionists of my acquaintance as well as an All Ireland winning manager.
Can't beat a bargain whether it be euros or sterling in any location!
But nothing like the bargain you thought you were getting when you booked thon hotel that time.
JimBob 😂😂😂😂😂 Oh strap my rib cage,I'm laughing that much! Never heard that one before! Funniest joke of the year. 🙄🙄🙄
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Actually the South never dealt with the debt problems...
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Actually the South never dealt with the debt problems...
We kicked that can way down the road
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 29, 2016, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Actually the South never dealt with the debt problems...
We kicked that can way down the road
The people lining up for food parcels in Dublin would disagree.
Quote from: vallankumous on December 29, 2016, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 29, 2016, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Actually the South never dealt with the debt problems...
We kicked that can way down the road
The people lining up for food parcels in Dublin would disagree.
And Limerick
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on December 29, 2016, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 29, 2016, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Actually the South never dealt with the debt problems...
We kicked that can way down the road
The people lining up for food parcels in Dublin would disagree.
And Limerick
How are things these days in Creggan and Ardoyne?
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2016, 02:31:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 02:16:13 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on December 29, 2016, 12:54:19 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 29, 2016, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 29, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM
They should look at how well the South got out of their debt problems and use that formula...
Actually the South never dealt with the debt problems...
We kicked that can way down the road
The people lining up for food parcels in Dublin would disagree.
And Limerick
How are things these days in Creggan and Ardoyne?
No food parcels queues as far as I know... plenty in the Crumlin Star in Ardoyne over the festive period getting blocked
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
No food parcels queues as far as I know... plenty in the Crumlin Star in Ardoyne over the festive period getting blocked
Escapism from the ravages of poverty.
Quote from: vallankumous on December 29, 2016, 03:24:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
No food parcels queues as far as I know... plenty in the Crumlin Star in Ardoyne over the festive period getting blocked
Escapism from the ravages of poverty.
Christ they manage to escape a lot
Quote from: T Fearon on December 29, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
JimBob 😂😂😂😂😂 Oh strap my rib cage,I'm laughing that much! Never heard that one before! Funniest joke of the year. 🙄🙄🙄
Tony. You ll never live that one down