Man Utd Thread:

[Esmarelda]

That was a very poor 1st half performance but probably picked the right game to play like that. The ref has been slaughtered by Keith Hackett & Graham Poll the last few weeks in the media about been too soft, clearly that was playing on his mind when he gave that pen; That was another dreadful decision, never seen a season like it and it keeps continuing. There's been poor decisions in nearly every match this season, we've certainly benefitted from a few namely the times Rojo should have seen red of when the West Ham player was sent off although I still think we'd have beaten West Ham that day. Overall the bad decisions have likely cost us more points than we've gained. We've had one pen in the last 39 league games, thats a very weird stat.

As for Hull they've certainly improved since Silva took over, we'll have to play a lot better at OT next week to beat them.

Really, what decisions have cost United points this season?

[Boycey]

Please stop this conversation before it starts.....

United have had a couple of decisions go against them recently, big f**king deal... we'll get a whopper of decision in our favour shortly and everyone will be able to go back to frothing at the mouth at how we always get the decisions. Someone will be along in a minute to blame Mourinho for all the decisions against us

[Esmarelda]

Please stop this conversation before it starts.....

United have had a couple of decisions go against them recently, big f**king deal... we'll get a whopper of decision in our favour shortly and everyone will be able to go back to frothing at the mouth at how we always get the decisions. Someone will be along in a minute to blame Mourinho for all the decisions against us

I'm one who doesn't think this way generally. I just felt that over the last few months that United have had an unusual amount of things go their way. I was therefore surprised to read Maroon Manc's comments.

[Maroon Manc]

The problem with the ABU's is they only see things one way.


Off the top of my head the tackle on Mata v Stoke, nailed on pen.  The challenge by Bravo on Rooney when he could easily have broken his leg, nailed on pen and red card. The challenge by Monreal against Valencia which was a nailed on pen. The foul by the Burnley full back on Darmian and Herrera's red card when he slipped. We took 3 points from those 4 games.

There was Luiz's terrible tackle on Fellaini although given we were 2-0 down at the time and how poor we were its unlikely we'd have gotten anything but you never know. There's a few more too which I can't think off.

[Link]

Please stop this conversation before it starts.....

United have had a couple of decisions go against them recently, big f**king deal... we'll get a whopper of decision in our favour shortly and everyone will be able to go back to frothing at the mouth at how we always get the decisions. Someone will be along in a minute to blame Mourinho for all the decisions against us

big decision went for them against liverpool when offside wasn't called.

[Esmarelda]

The problem with the ABU's is they only see things one way.


Off the top of my head the tackle on Mata v Stoke, nailed on pen.  The challenge by Bravo on Rooney when he could easily have broken his leg, nailed on pen and red card. The challenge by Monreal against Valencia which was a nailed on pen. The foul by the Burnley full back on Darmian and Herrera's red card when he slipped. We took 3 points from those 4 games.

There was Luiz's terrible tackle on Fellaini although given we were 2-0 down at the time and how poor we were its unlikely we'd have gotten anything but you never know. There's a few more too which I can't think off.

Are you suggesting I'm an ABU? That was my first post on the United thread.

I follow soccer but support nor dislike any club. Mine was an observation. All you had to do was answer the question but you come in with the ABU comment.

I'll leave you to it.

[Maroon Manc]

First post on here and you're questioning my post on referee's, too right you've been accused of being an abu.

[Cunny Funt]

Hull got a slice of luck with the penalty but a deserved win for them. United were poor all game last night they look a tired team now and most of the spark that was there during the 17 game unbeaten run has now faded. Last night confirmed Rojo is dreadful at full back while decent at centre back and Darmian shouldn't be anywhere near the starting team.

[Esmarelda]

First post on here and you're questioning my post on referee's, too right you've been accused of being an abu.

Referee's what?

You said something, I noticed it,  thought it at odds with what I had seen and queried it.

If I saw it on any other thread I'd have queried it too.

ABU? I haven't heard that term since I was in secondary school. That's where it belongs. "My team's better than your team................"

[AZOffaly]

First post on here and you're questioning my post on referee's, too right you've been accused of being an abu.

That's harsh. I think it was a reasonable enough question. You're right about the officiating though, it's shite. I think most teams have been affected at this stage.

[Boycey]

First post on here and you're questioning my post on referee's, too right you've been accused of being an abu.

That's harsh. I think it was a reasonable enough question. You're right about the officiating though, it's shite. I think most teams have been affected at this stage.

Is it any more shite than it ever was though, or is it just Sky/Bt or whoever pushing their own agenda? BT even have Howard fecking Webb as part of their matchday commentary team giving real time analysis of the decisions. Then at the interval they'll play the incident at super duper slow motion making the referee or linesman look a right berk and all the experts in the studio will line up to slaughter the officials who got one chance to make a call on it. 

[J70]

First post on here and you're questioning my post on referee's, too right you've been accused of being an abu.

That's harsh. I think it was a reasonable enough question. You're right about the officiating though, it's shite. I think most teams have been affected at this stage.

Is it any more shite than it ever was though, or is it just Sky/Bt or whoever pushing their own agenda? BT even have Howard fecking Webb as part of their matchday commentary team giving real time analysis of the decisions. Then at the interval they'll play the incident at super duper slow motion making the referee or linesman look a right berk and all the experts in the studio will line up to slaughter the officials who got one chance to make a call on it.

But its the same with gaelic football.

There seems to be some kind of disconnect between people's brains and the fact that referees get one single, real-time, look at any given situation, often from a not-ideal angle.

[AZOffaly]

That's true, but I think what drives people mad nowadays is that the technology exists now to help them, and could be used. Even without that there are 3 of them (sometimes 5) so they should be getting decisions right. That Offside call was just simply down to a linesman being in the wrong place, and some of the penalty decisions MM refers to above should have been correct if the officiating team worked together.

[Maroon Manc]

First post on here and you're questioning my post on referee's, too right you've been accused of being an abu.

That's harsh. I think it was a reasonable enough question. You're right about the officiating though, it's shite. I think most teams have been affected at this stage.

Is it any more shite than it ever was though, or is it just Sky/Bt or whoever pushing their own agenda? BT even have Howard fecking Webb as part of their matchday commentary team giving real time analysis of the decisions. Then at the interval they'll play the incident at super duper slow motion making the referee or linesman look a right berk and all the experts in the studio will line up to slaughter the officials who got one chance to make a call on it.

Its a lot worse this season, its a really difficult job though and they will always accept mistakes but there's been far too many mistakes this season. Look at United's game against Palace for example; How could he not send Rojo off for that tackle? Then missed the Palace defender with a very blatant hand ball, think he ended up punching it and then there was Mata's goal which was ruled out for offside when he it wasn't even close. United's first goal was offside and a handall although that was difficult to see. There's no way the officials should be getting that number of decisions wrong, 3 of them were very straight forward and not difficult at all.

[Boycey]

They're not difficult MM cause you have seen them multiple times and at various speeds....

I think technology has worked well with the goal decisions and could work  with offsides but anything else I'd be against. The natural breaks in the game aren't there that exist in other game that use video technology like rugby, cricket and American football.