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#16126
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2019
August 01, 2019, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 01, 2019, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2019, 12:47:29 AM
Quote from: bogieman on July 31, 2019, 11:56:07 PM
I'm glad to see them 2 in the final.

They do need a referee, but only to refer to the odd time when they can't agree between themselves.

Ps Chin's free should never been given as a point, it would mean Hogan's fingers catching the ball would have had to be 195mm behind the front of a regulation crossbar, that's 8 inches, I can't think of many with hands that size.
Ref. Limerick Galway minors was a bad calibration

Pss The crossbar didn't look 125mm diameter, more like 90mm trendy aluminum, but surely Croke park have everything correct to their own rules and regulations, just like the flags being part of pitch at line intersections...

Have you been on the pitch at Croke? Flags are nowhere near the lines, and they aren't part of play, as for your other calculations I thought about that also, the whole of the ball needs to have been behind the crossbar.

Hogans catch on first viewing didn't look a point as his arm/hand wasn't overly angled back enough to suggest that the full off the ball was over the full of the bar, but "computer says Tá"

As much as Cleere has his issues, I'm sure that game was a pig to referee. Loads of contentious issues and marginal calls, scores being disallowed and the likes.

I'd forgive him the square ball call as it's been mulled over now for days with video replays and still there's no consensus.

They are calls he never made! Square ball he consulted his umpires, correctly. Hogans catch, he was also told by other officials.

The disallowed goal after not calling advantage was possibly his only major mistake of sorts. There was guarantee that Tipp would have scored a goal so they got a point at least
#16127
General discussion / Re: Learning to drive
August 01, 2019, 08:40:53 AM
Country road bikers never annoy me, it is what it is and I'll generally pass them at some point and be held up by a fecking tractor further down the road!

Its the city bikers that really piss me off, there are no rules for them it seems, no lights, as they mount the pavement to suit themselves and no indication of moving lanes. Turn left or right there is no hand signal, maybe just maybe if they were pulled and given three points for careless driving that could improve the city driving for all concerened.
#16128
General discussion / Re: Nolan Show
August 01, 2019, 08:34:33 AM
Quote from: t_mac on August 01, 2019, 07:51:24 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2019, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 01, 2019, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 01, 2019, 02:58:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 10:59:32 PM
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !

How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?

I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.

Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies

Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too

Decided to be  vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.

What clothes did you wear that week?

Cotton, put the leather trousers away for the week!  8)
#16129
General discussion / Re: Nolan Show
August 01, 2019, 07:49:26 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 01, 2019, 06:39:49 AM
Quote from: Baile an tuaigh on August 01, 2019, 02:58:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2019, 10:59:32 PM
Nolan on about Vegans, so he is !

How many posters are vegans or vegetarians ?

I am, went of meat for lent eighteen years ago and have been on a vegetarian diet ever since.

Vegan is no animal products whatsoever... no milk, yogurt
eggs, cheese, butter, mince pies, black pudding, jelly babies

Basically think of all the things that are worth eating after you exclude meats.... well exclude you can exclude those too

Decided to be  vegan for a week, just to see how how it would be, lost weight , obviously, and didn't miss anything food wise. But it took a lot of effort to shop for the correct foods! We've been doing a dry September and I'll try it again for a couple weeks. A detox I suppose.
#16130
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2019
August 01, 2019, 12:47:29 AM
Quote from: bogieman on July 31, 2019, 11:56:07 PM
I'm glad to see them 2 in the final.

They do need a referee, but only to refer to the odd time when they can't agree between themselves.

Ps Chin's free should never been given as a point, it would mean Hogan's fingers catching the ball would have had to be 195mm behind the front of a regulation crossbar, that's 8 inches, I can't think of many with hands that size.
Ref. Limerick Galway minors was a bad calibration

Pss The crossbar didn't look 125mm diameter, more like 90mm trendy aluminum, but surely Croke park have everything correct to their own rules and regulations, just like the flags being part of pitch at line intersections...

Have you been on the pitch at Croke? Flags are nowhere near the lines, and they aren't part of play, as for your other calculations I thought about that also, the whole of the ball needs to have been behind the crossbar.
#16131
Thats the first in a while I seen a Tipp team actually come back after looking like they had lost it, they did it twice in the match when in previous years they folded. fair play to the team and management for sorting that side of things out.

The final will be a belter. No let up throughout the game, hopefully no referee either, just throw the ball in and let them tear away!
#16132
Quote from: t_mac on July 30, 2019, 01:40:59 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 30, 2019, 09:08:18 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 30, 2019, 04:17:05 AM
Why not just give a whistle to each of the men running the lines, since they are inter-county referees anyway?
So simple. Just get them to step in a few yards from the line, give them a whistle and away you go.

Or umpires as they are well . . . .  brothers, nephews, drinking buddies of the ref!

Nearly impossible to have it any other way, for these refs to have someone heading around the country to help the ref out is hard work, they are giving up a whole day or possibly a night, there are umpire courses that I'd say all of the umpires you see would have gone through
#16133
General discussion / Re: Love Island
July 30, 2019, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: t_mac on July 30, 2019, 01:17:27 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 30, 2019, 12:57:42 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 30, 2019, 12:31:29 PM
Limerick Greg wins it along with some Geordie lady.

Wonder will he be belting out Sean South at the afterparty?

A bizarre show. The geordie lady had the hots for some bloke, who dumped her, then wanted her back. She still hankers for him, but ended up with the rugger bugger as a last resort. Chances of a long term relationship, marriage and kiddies 0.1%

Thankfully Maura did not win. Chances of her having a long term relationship with Curtis, marriage and kiddies 0.0%

Chances of her having a long term relationship with anyone 0.0%

Well, that's my opinion (which I rate very highly).

Haven't seen a second of it but from the reporting on it, i'd say the audience are every bit as bizarre, seems to be a bigger fix than most reality shows - why anyone cares about these folk is way over my head.

There is something intriguing watching dicks make dicks of of themselves on TV . reminds me of a clip on an old show, The Word when someone came on and said "I'd do anything to be on TV" and some 18 year old was lumbering away at a 85 years granny!

Social media and the dawn of influencers/youtubers has created a generation of people that strive for attention or want to emulate others of 'fame'

Some people are into Formula 1, I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.
#16134
I get that, I'm a player, supporter/ manager and a ref. the effort all players put into the game at any level should be rewarded by better refereeing, no one would say any different, I just feel that an 'extra' ref, would not actually bring anything else to the game other than his interpretations of the same rules! ending up with two cheating/useless bstards who havent got a clue! :D

considering the ref's on the line and fourth official are all intercounty referees is more than enough to referee a game
#16135
Quote from: Main Street on July 30, 2019, 03:08:28 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2019, 12:42:48 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on July 29, 2019, 11:55:50 PM
I get your point but the pros far outweigh the cons in my opinion.  Having a ref in each half will cut down on off the ball stuff and will ensure a ref doesn't have to make a call from 80 yards away.  Think of all the bad calls that have been made over the years because the ref couldn't see what was going on because he was blocked or was too far away.  I think the consistency thing could be overcome easily by appointing refs with similar styles for games.  I think county players work way to hard to have a season taken away by bad or missed calls.  Look at the limerick sideline on Saturday, shocking that the ref, linesman and umpires all missed it yet every Limerick player did.  It's just not good enough.

The linesman and his umpires didn't see it! But another ref on the other side of the pitch would have? Ffs stupid point, one ref is plenty, he's wired up to the umpires and linesmen plus fourth official at at Croke the Hawkeye team, but hey one more will sort it! Give the linesmen more power, I'm all for that, in circumstances I've refd at I'll blindly take the call of a linesman and blow straight away

Refs, like players won't always have the best game, anyone looking to have game played at rugby pace and monitored accordingly can go f**k themselves. The game is fine as it is, two cracking semifinals should produce a brilliant final
An umpire is not a ref, and as an aside, wtf does there have to be two of them?  Two umpires each end,  4 in total but only one ref??

Two or more refs are used in many sports, even indoor court team handball where the game shifts end to end in a few seconds.  It's not about one ref's interpretation of the rules of the game, it's about the rules of the game being applied and two refs, one in each half, can work together to police the game.

I've highlighted what should be done, though you never seen that bit, the umpires are needed, if you've ever done umpire before at a club game on your own, its difficult enough to get the flight of the ball on your own side without having to go chasing over to the other side to catch sight of it, I'll agree that bog ball would be easier.

Counties struggle to get fixtures covered by referee's on a weekly bases, no shortage of keyboard ref's and kids tournament ref's or behind the fence ref's (who never knoow the rules) but now we are looking 2 referees at these games? Good one, good luck with that
#16136
Quote from: irish345 on July 30, 2019, 04:58:38 AM
im not familar with this part i am assuming matches are free to enter except for maybe county finals and you would have to pay to get into provincial club mathes and then the all ireland semi finals what prices are tickets for club matches


You pay in at all games (leauge championship) unless the club hasnt someone at the gate for the leauge, all Championship games you pay into at all stages. county reps at the gate taking the money.

You should change that name to brit345  ;)
#16137
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 30, 2019, 06:18:59 AM
Schoolboy hit with legal bill as 'deflated football' case is dismissed

A schoolboy has failed in his personal injury action where he claimed his primary school was negligent in supplying him with a deflated football that caused him to break his wrist during a soccer match.
At Ennis Circuit Court in Co Clare, Judge Gerald Keys dismissed the case by Julius Kroka (14) taken against Ennis Educate Together, Gort Road, Ennis.

Suing through his mother, Julius claimed that kicking the deflated ball during a soccer match with class-mates at break-time on March 14, 2017, caused him to fall. Julius, of Sandfield Hall, Ennis, said that he broke his wrist.

Julius said that the football was between 60pc to 70pc deflated. He was aged 12 at the time and he told the court: "I was falling backwards. My instinct told me to put out my left hand."

In the case, the school put forward evidence that Julius didn't kick the ball at all and that his version of the accident was 'impossible'. Ennis Educate Together special needs assistant (SNA) Marian Moroney told the court that she was 10 feet from the accident and said that Julius never made contact with the ball. Ms Moroney told the court: "He went to kick the ball but never connected with the ball and fell over." She said that there was no problem with the ball and it was used for another game the following day.

Judge Keys said that the written grounds of the case put forward on behalf of the plaintiff are "extraordinary".

He said if the case was to succeed "I think you have to stop playing football altogether in schools". "The schoolboy lost his balance and when he put his hand out to try to save himself from falling, he broke his wrist. I am afraid that is an accident, these things happen," he said.

Julius's legal team employed a consulting engineer and the school had to employ its own engineer in its defence who argued that the ball could not have been deflated at the time.

Judge Keys awarded costs against the plaintiff. "This is a case where a message has to go out... where some actions are brought there is a risk of costs being awarded against you," he said.

Irish Independent

Because it was deflated the ball didnt move as fast as it should have causing him to miss time his shot, causing him to fall over thus leading to a fractured wrist, case closed mlord!
#16138
Quote from: sligoman2 on July 29, 2019, 11:55:50 PM
I get your point but the pros far outweigh the cons in my opinion.  Having a ref in each half will cut down on off the ball stuff and will ensure a ref doesn't have to make a call from 80 yards away.  Think of all the bad calls that have been made over the years because the ref couldn't see what was going on because he was blocked or was too far away.  I think the consistency thing could be overcome easily by appointing refs with similar styles for games.  I think county players work way to hard to have a season taken away by bad or missed calls.  Look at the limerick sideline on Saturday, shocking that the ref, linesman and umpires all missed it yet every Limerick player did.  It's just not good enough.

The linesman and his umpires didn't see it! But another ref on the other side of the pitch would have? Ffs stupid point, one ref is plenty, he's wired up to the umpires and linesmen plus fourth official at at Croke the Hawkeye team, but hey one more will sort it! Give the linesmen more power, I'm all for that, in circumstances I've refd at I'll blindly take the call of a linesman and blow straight away

Refs, like players won't always have the best game, anyone looking to have game played at rugby pace and monitored accordingly can go f**k themselves. The game is fine as it is, two cracking semifinals should produce a brilliant final
#16139
General discussion / Re: Irish Business Thread
July 29, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on July 29, 2019, 04:39:45 PM
Aye but a strike is the traditional route.

Uppa road! Was the cry! Generally strikes happened around Cheltenham Gold cup day, or Derby day!

Galway races day is a new one
#16140
General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
July 29, 2019, 06:13:40 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 29, 2019, 05:28:05 PM
Woods,Kopeka, Woodland & Lowry have apparently offered to swap their major for the players championship

You know he's a multiple winner of Majors?