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Title: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2015, 02:39:34 PM
Donegal - Current man most likely staying
Derry -vacant
Antrim - does anyone know or care?
Down- McCorry resigned - vacancy
Armagh - Hmmm??
Monaghan - Will Malachy stay?
Cavan - Hyland reappointed
Fermanagh - I expect Pete will be a shoo in
Tyrone - St Mickey re appointed 15/9/15.

Sligo - Carew re appointed I believe
Leitrim - Shane Ward resppointed I believe
Ros - vacant
Mayowestros -still in Championship
Galway - Walsh most likely to be reappointed
London - Paul Coggins again I presume

Clare -vacant?
Limerick- Brudair recommended for re appointment.
Tipp - Vacant
Waterford - vacant?
Cork -Vacant
Kerry - still in Championship

Louth - ??
Meath - Dowd for 2 more years
Westmeath - Cribbin for another year?
Longford - Denis Connerton appointed.
Laois -Vacant
Offaly - Flanagan for another year?
Carlow -??
Wexford - ?
Wicklow- Johnny Magee ratified 27/8.
Dublin - still in Championship
Kildare -  Vacancy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 02:42:28 PM
Flanagan will certainly be there in Offaly.

Tipp have a huge appointment decision to make this time around. Creedon has taken them on well, they have good minors and u21s coming through to meld with a stock of established, albeit young, players. This now will be where they step up to really go to the next level, or else they will stagnate, and quite quickly stagnation leads to regression. Huge junction in the road.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 11, 2015, 04:51:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2015, 02:39:34 PM
Donegal - Current man most likely staying
Derry -vacant
Antrim - does anyone know or care?
Down- McCorry reappointed
Armagh - Hmmm??
Monaghan - Will Malachy stay?
Cavan - Hyland reappointed
Fermanagh - I expect Pete will be a shoo in
Tyrone - Still in Championship

Sligo - Carew re appointed I believe
Leitrim - Shane Ward resppointed I believe
Ros - Evans recommended for another year by Executive. Co Board Meeting tomorrow night. Various rumours of revolutions etc ..... but I expect it will go through
Mayowestros -still in Championship
Galway - Walsh most likely to be reappointed
London - Paul Coggins again I presume

Clare -vacant?
Limerick- vacant?
Tipp - Vacant
Waterford - vacant?
Cork -Vacant
Kerry - still in Championship

Louth - ??
Meath - Dowd for 2 more years
Westmeath - Cribbin for another year?
Longford - Vacant
Laois -Vacant
Offaly - Flanagan for another year?
Carlow -??
Wexford - ?
Wicklow- ??
Dublin - still in Championship
Kildare - Probably will be a vacancy when dust settles

Clare - is Collins Snr not still there?
Waterford - only appointed a new manager last year with a two year term - Tom McGlinchey - I assume he'll still be there for another year.
Sligo - Carew 2 year term confirmed
Armagh - McGeeney - 4 more years !!!
Cork - Cleary the front-runner came out and was fairly wishy-washy about taking the job last week. If he says he's not interested it could get very messy.
Wexford - David Power has another year left - was given a two year term when appointed. Between the win over Derry and the work done with the juniors I don't think there is a chance in hell he will be moved on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
I wonder will David Power try land the Tipp job though?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 11, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
I wonder will David Power try land the Tipp job though?

I'd be surprised - he's still very young, so you'd think he's unlikely to be in a serious rush.
Trying to think of an occasion where a manager "dumped" one intercounty team mid-term to take over another intercounty team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 11, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 04:52:57 PM
I wonder will David Power try land the Tipp job though?

I'd be surprised - he's still very young, so you'd think he's unlikely to be in a serious rush.
Trying to think of an occasion where a manager "dumped" one intercounty team mid-term to take over another intercounty team.
Pat Flanagan Sligo/Offaly?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
Kevin Walsh was awful interested in the Ros job in 2013 and stalled on agreeing terms with Sligo. Bit of a common theme in this subject.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: south Laois on August 11, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
As a Laois man I'd rather see a Laois man get the Laois job than one of these journey men managers such as Luke Dempsey.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on August 11, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 02:42:28 PM
Flanagan will certainly be there in Offaly.

Tipp have a huge appointment decision to make this time around. Creedon has taken them on well, they have good minors and u21s coming through to meld with a stock of established, albeit young, players. This now will be where they step up to really go to the next level, or else they will stagnate, and quite quickly stagnation leads to regression. Huge junction in the road.
Micko
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 11, 2015, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 11, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 02:42:28 PM
Flanagan will certainly be there in Offaly.

Tipp have a huge appointment decision to make this time around. Creedon has taken them on well, they have good minors and u21s coming through to meld with a stock of established, albeit young, players. This now will be where they step up to really go to the next level, or else they will stagnate, and quite quickly stagnation leads to regression. Huge junction in the road.
Micko

Sadly Micko is no longer an option. The man is nearly 80! His last gig with Clare two years ago went with a whimper. Legend!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 12, 2015, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 11, 2015, 04:51:12 PM
Sligo - Carew 2 year term confirmed
Tanman junior O'Hara ripping into Carew I hear.
Pity he wouldn't offer his superior managerial talents to the Sligo CB  >:(
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2015, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 11, 2015, 04:51:12 PM
Sligo - Carew 2 year term confirmed
Tanman junior O'Hara ripping into Carew I hear.
Pity he wouldn't offer his superior managerial talents to the Sligo CB  >:(

Is there a Sligo manager he hasn't had a cut off in recent years?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 12, 2015, 05:11:18 PM
QuoteBREAKING: John Evans will not seek reappointment as Roscommon senior football manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Evans not seeking the nomination to return to the sheep stealers in 2016.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Evans not seeking the nomination to return to the sheep stealers in 2016.

He was to go before the delegates for rubber-stamping tonight. This really reeks. I'm genuinely shocked.

If the cabal in Ros town don't have a ready-made replacement they have just made an absolute fûcking mess of our senior team. Really worried that this will shake out badly now.

Thanks to John Evans - not perfect but he did a lot of good things for us these past three years. Deserved better.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 12, 2015, 05:35:17 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/john-evans-steps-down-as-roscommon-football-manager-1.2314965

Contains Evans's statement.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2015, 05:43:18 PM
Rossfan and Syf, the dream ticket awaits!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 12, 2015, 06:26:38 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2015, 05:43:18 PM
Rossfan and Syf, the dream ticket awaits!

;D ;D
I wouldn't have the patience to handle Syfín.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 12, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Evans not seeking the nomination to return to the sheep stealers in 2016.

He was to go before the delegates for rubber-stamping tonight. This really reeks. I'm genuinely shocked.


Thanks to John Evans - not perfect but he did a lot of good things for us these past three years. Deserved better.

You poor soft gomeen
It's all about what your team does in Summer and what we did this Summer wasn't good enough and couldn't be hidden by any amount of League success.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 12, 2015, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Evans not seeking the nomination to return to the sheep stealers in 2016.

He was to go before the delegates for rubber-stamping tonight. This really reeks. I'm genuinely shocked.


Thanks to John Evans - not perfect but he did a lot of good things for us these past three years. Deserved better.


You poor soft gomeen
It's all about what your team does in Summer and what we did this Summer wasn't good enough and couldn't be hidden by any amount of League success.

If roscommon hadn't lost to fermanagh but ended up being beaten by Dublin in a similar result as fermanagh, would that have been enough??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 12, 2015, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 12, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Evans not seeking the nomination to return to the sheep stealers in 2016.

He was to go before the delegates for rubber-stamping tonight. This really reeks. I'm genuinely shocked.


Thanks to John Evans - not perfect but he did a lot of good things for us these past three years. Deserved better.


You poor soft gomeen
It's all about what your team does in Summer and what we did this Summer wasn't good enough and couldn't be hidden by any amount of League success.

If roscommon hadn't lost to fermanagh but ended up being beaten by Dublin in a similar result as fermanagh, would that have been enough??

Without a doubt. No one would have been brave enough to stage a coup against Evans then.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 12, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2015, 02:39:34 PM
Donegal - Current man most likely staying
Derry -vacant
Antrim - does anyone know or care?
Down- McCorry reappointed
Armagh - Hmmm??
Monaghan - Will Malachy stay?
Cavan - Hyland reappointed
Fermanagh - I expect Pete will be a shoo in
Tyrone - Still in Championship

Sligo - Carew re appointed I believe
Leitrim - Shane Ward resppointed I believe
Ros - Evans recommended for another year by Executive. Co Board Meeting tomorrow night. Various rumours of revolutions etc ..... but I expect it will go through
Mayowestros -still in Championship
Galway - Walsh most likely to be reappointed
London - Paul Coggins again I presume

Clare -vacant?
Limerick- vacant?
Tipp - Vacant
Waterford - vacant?
Cork -Vacant
Kerry - still in Championship

Louth - ??
Meath - Dowd for 2 more years
Westmeath - Cribbin for another year?
Longford - Vacant
Laois -Vacant
Offaly - Flanagan for another year?
Carlow -??
Wexford - ?
Wicklow- ??
Dublin - still in Championship
Kildare - Probably will be a vacancy when dust settles

Niall Carew has been confirmed in Sligo. There was talk that Kildare were after him but he has stuck with Sligo
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
I see Banty is linking himself with the Derry job. Any thoughts Derry folk?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
I see Banty is linking himself with the Derry job. Any thoughts Derry folk?

Hard to know. In some ways he's the brash no nonsense character we need to get everyone pulling together. He'll be able to get the funding needed and he's cute enough to get all the players he needs/wants to play for the County. Also he's a strong enough character to lay down the law to the County Board when it's needed as well. Along with that he seems to be a players man a bit like Coleman maybe.

Managerially though does he have it at the top level in terms of preparation/tactics etc?? I just don't know.

A lot depends on who he can get to come along with him. Will it still be McElkennon? I'd rather see someone else come in I think. My own preference for the Derry job was Tony McEntee. I'd love to see him pull McEntee in along with him if it were possible.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SamFever on August 20, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
 From Gaelic Life Twitter;;;;
GAELIC Life understands that Jim McCorry is to consider his position as manager of the Down senior football team.

The county executive met with the Mourne boss this week, and McCorry had hoped that a number of his doubts would be allayed. It seems, however, that issues still remain in place.

It is believed that McCorry requested the meeting four weeks ago, and the delay in scheduling it has not helped the siutation.

He is now likely to discuss the matter with his management team and advisors. It is understood that the Down players are very keen on him to remain in charge.

Despite a disappointing championship campaign, including a qualifier defeat to Wexford, McCorry appeared to be on solid ground due to it being his first year in charge, and also, due to the fact that he guided the team into division one.

That belief, however, fell apart when the county management recommended that he be removed from his post last month on a 7-6 score after they held a vote.

In the subsequent county board meeting, the clubs and board voted 23-13 in his favour. The seven who voted against him in the management committee then cast another seven votes against him to bring it to an overall 22-20 figure, ensuring he was retained as manager.

As for now, McCorry remains in charge and he was present at a number of club championship matches in recent weeks as he tries to spot new talent. Dan Gordon and Martin Clarke are expected to return to the county scene for the 2016 season.

Related Posts:
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Red eye on August 20, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: SamFever on August 20, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
From Gaelic Life Twitter;;;;
GAELIC Life understands that Jim McCorry is to consider his position as manager of the Down senior football team.

The county executive met with the Mourne boss this week, and McCorry had hoped that a number of his doubts would be allayed. It seems, however, that issues still remain in place.

It is believed that McCorry requested the meeting four weeks ago, and the delay in scheduling it has not helped the siutation.

He is now likely to discuss the matter with his management team and advisors. It is understood that the Down players are very keen on him to remain in charge.

Despite a disappointing championship campaign, including a qualifier defeat to Wexford, McCorry appeared to be on solid ground due to it being his first year in charge, and also, due to the fact that he guided the team into division one.

That belief, however, fell apart when the county management recommended that he be removed from his post last month on a 7-6 score after they held a vote.

In the subsequent county board meeting, the clubs and board voted 23-13 in his favour. The seven who voted against him in the management committee then cast another seven votes against him to bring it to an overall 22-20 figure, ensuring he was retained as manager.

As for now, McCorry remains in charge and he was present at a number of club championship matches in recent weeks as he tries to spot new talent. Dan Gordon and Martin Clarke are expected to return to the county scene for the 2016 season.

Related Posts:

Saw that - know his comments after qualifier defeat didn't endear him among the Down support, and am still unsure. Claiming promotion to Div 1 was unexpected but they'll be under pressure to stay there, even with Dan and Marty back on board.
Am sure supporters are looking at Fermanagh and thinking there's a Down manager with a good record and yet he's in Fermanagh. Dunno what the County Board have against Pete but Down's loss looks like Fermanagh's gain.
If Sean Ward continues with the good work at Burren might be an option in another year or two but he would need to carry on with good work being done at present.
Can't see Armagh not reappointing Geezer.
What's the craic in Derry - Baker not considered? Barton? Or are they def looking outside the county - think last non Derry manager was Mullins?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SHEEDY on August 20, 2015, 07:58:01 PM
jim mccorry has quit as down manager tonight after 1 year in charge.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 5 Sams on August 20, 2015, 08:08:45 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on August 20, 2015, 07:58:01 PM
jim mccorry has quit as down manager tonight after 1 year in charge.

For the day that's in it "Surprise Surprise!"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orior on August 20, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on August 20, 2015, 07:58:01 PM
jim mccorry has quit as down manager tonight after 1 year in charge.

So the County Board got their way after all. Worst case scenario for me is that Down appoint Tony McEntee
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rawhide on August 20, 2015, 08:22:42 PM
Red eye, the last outside man Derry had was Brian Mc Ivor, from Ardboe and Tyrone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 20, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: SamFever on August 20, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
From Gaelic Life Twitter;;;;
GAELIC Life understands that Jim McCorry is to consider his position as manager of the Down senior football team.

The county executive met with the Mourne boss this week, and McCorry had hoped that a number of his doubts would be allayed. It seems, however, that issues still remain in place.

It is believed that McCorry requested the meeting four weeks ago, and the delay in scheduling it has not helped the siutation.

He is now likely to discuss the matter with his management team and advisors. It is understood that the Down players are very keen on him to remain in charge.

Despite a disappointing championship campaign, including a qualifier defeat to Wexford, McCorry appeared to be on solid ground due to it being his first year in charge, and also, due to the fact that he guided the team into division one.

That belief, however, fell apart when the county management recommended that he be removed from his post last month on a 7-6 score after they held a vote.

In the subsequent county board meeting, the clubs and board voted 23-13 in his favour. The seven who voted against him in the management committee then cast another seven votes against him to bring it to an overall 22-20 figure, ensuring he was retained as manager.

As for now, McCorry remains in charge and he was present at a number of club championship matches in recent weeks as he tries to spot new talent. Dan Gordon and Martin Clarke are expected to return to the county scene for the 2016 season.

Related Posts:

Saw that - know his comments after qualifier defeat didn't endear him among the Down support, and am still unsure. Claiming promotion to Div 1 was unexpected but they'll be under pressure to stay there, even with Dan and Marty back on board.
Am sure supporters are looking at Fermanagh and thinking there's a Down manager with a good record and yet he's in Fermanagh. Dunno what the County Board have against Pete but Down's loss looks like Fermanagh's gain.
If Sean Ward continues with the good work at Burren might be an option in another year or two but he would need to carry on with good work being done at present.
Can't see Armagh not reappointing Geezer.
What's the craic in Derry - Baker not considered? Barton? Or are they def looking outside the county - think last non Derry manager was Mullins?

Baker... God no!

Barton... Has a terrible record and there's probably not enough money in it for him!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BennyCake on August 20, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
McCorry did the right thing, and walked away.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 20, 2015, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
I see Banty is linking himself with the Derry job. Any thoughts Derry folk?

Hard to know. In some ways he's the brash no nonsense character we need to get everyone pulling together. He'll be able to get the funding needed and he's cute enough to get all the players he needs/wants to play for the County. Also he's a strong enough character to lay down the law to the County Board when it's needed as well. Along with that he seems to be a players man a bit like Coleman maybe.

Managerially though does he have it at the top level in terms of preparation/tactics etc?? I just don't know.

A lot depends on who he can get to come along with him. Will it still be McElkennon? I'd rather see someone else come in I think. My own preference for the Derry job was Tony McEntee. I'd love to see him pull McEntee in along with him if it were possible.

Would you really even contemplate Banty?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: regal on August 20, 2015, 11:24:11 PM
Screenexile, you're in dreamland to think t mcentee would join Banty as derry's assistant manager!!!! The Derry job doesn't look too appealing, although Banty is clearly disparate to get back involved. Perhaps he could persuade (dungiven's) Gregory mcgonigle (I think he works for Banty) to join him? Will the downey's ever through their hat into the ring?

T mcentee will probably get the down job, although considering how McCorry has been treated, he might be wiser to give it a wide berth. I've no doubt Pete mcgrath would jump at the chance to manage down again but will he get the chance?

Personally, I would like to see mcentee or McCorry as mcgeeney's assistant next year in Armagh, but not sure how likely that is
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
I see Banty is linking himself with the Derry job. Any thoughts Derry folk?

Hard to know. In some ways he's the brash no nonsense character we need to get everyone pulling together. He'll be able to get the funding needed and he's cute enough to get all the players he needs/wants to play for the County. Also he's a strong enough character to lay down the law to the County Board when it's needed as well. Along with that he seems to be a players man a bit like Coleman maybe.

Managerially though does he have it at the top level in terms of preparation/tactics etc?? I just don't know.

A lot depends on who he can get to come along with him. Will it still be McElkennon? I'd rather see someone else come in I think. My own preference for the Derry job was Tony McEntee. I'd love to see him pull McEntee in along with him if it were possible.

Would you really even contemplate Banty?

You getting a bit worried Ballina's finest will be plotting Mayo's downfall next season, Moy? Bit telling he hasn't ruled himself out..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 21, 2015, 12:54:55 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 20, 2015, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 01:36:19 PM
I see Banty is linking himself with the Derry job. Any thoughts Derry folk?

Hard to know. In some ways he's the brash no nonsense character we need to get everyone pulling together. He'll be able to get the funding needed and he's cute enough to get all the players he needs/wants to play for the County. Also he's a strong enough character to lay down the law to the County Board when it's needed as well. Along with that he seems to be a players man a bit like Coleman maybe.

Managerially though does he have it at the top level in terms of preparation/tactics etc?? I just don't know.

A lot depends on who he can get to come along with him. Will it still be McElkennon? I'd rather see someone else come in I think. My own preference for the Derry job was Tony McEntee. I'd love to see him pull McEntee in along with him if it were possible.

Would you really even contemplate Banty?

You getting a bit worried Ballina's finest will be plotting Mayo's downfall next season, Moy? Bit telling he hasn't ruled himself out..

Ballina's finest is interested in managing Derry?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 21, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
Are Derry really taking this Banty actor seriously? To me Banty is an out and out con man. I can't believe he's still being linked to county jobs. He's DESPERATE to get back into the limelight and raises his hand for every county job going. He'll be sniffing around Down now too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2015, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

He took one primrose and blue team to the AIQFs, why not another?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 22, 2015, 01:08:22 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Sure he's a Tipp man. Played for them before Dublin.

Remember the time he was rude to journalists after a Dublin game when he was trying to get info back from a Tipp hurling match on the phone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Tipp would want to stay well clear. if he took Tipp job would he be the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces as previously managed Dublin,Roscommon and Cavan??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:39:35 AM
Quote from: regal on August 20, 2015, 11:24:11 PM
Screenexile, you're in dreamland to think t mcentee would join Banty as derry's assistant manager!!!! The Derry job doesn't look too appealing, although Banty is clearly disparate to get back involved. Perhaps he could persuade (dungiven's) Gregory mcgonigle (I think he works for Banty) to join him? Will the downey's ever through their hat into the ring?

T mcentee will probably get the down job, although considering how McCorry has been treated, he might be wiser to give it a wide berth. I've no doubt Pete mcgrath would jump at the chance to manage down again but will he get the chance?

Is McEntee still involved with St Brigids in Dublin? he managed them last year but they didn't do great
Is
Personally, I would like to see mcentee or McCorry as mcgeeney's assistant next year in Armagh, but not sure how likely that is
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 22, 2015, 01:43:37 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Tipp would want to stay well clear. if he took Tipp job would he be the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces as previously managed Dublin,Roscommon and Cavan??

Great CV! What more could you ask for ;D. Appoint him before somebody else snares him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2015, 01:52:32 AM
T McEntee woudl be my preferred choice for the Derry Job, Derry need to look outside the county for an outside manager this time round,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 27, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Jason Ryan gone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 27, 2015, 09:01:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 27, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Jason Ryan gone.

No manager could have survived the Kerry hammering?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 22, 2015, 01:43:37 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Tipp would want to stay well clear. if he took Tipp job would he be the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces as previously managed Dublin,Roscommon and Cavan??

Great CV! What more could you ask for ;D. Appoint him before somebody else snares him.

Yes, and free the airwaves from his uninspiring voice next Summer.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 22, 2015, 01:43:37 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Tipp would want to stay well clear. if he took Tipp job would he be the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces as previously managed Dublin,Roscommon and Cavan??

Great CV! What more could you ask for ;D. Appoint him before somebody else snares him.

Yes, and free the airwaves from his uninspiring voice next Summer.

Cake for co-commentator.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 27, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 22, 2015, 01:43:37 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Tipp would want to stay well clear. if he took Tipp job would he be the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces as previously managed Dublin,Roscommon and Cavan??

Great CV! What more could you ask for ;D. Appoint him before somebody else snares him.

Yes, and free the airwaves from his uninspiring voice next Summer.

Cake for co-commentator.

So long as he leaves his triangles at home.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2015, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 09:15:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 27, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 22, 2015, 01:43:37 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2015, 01:36:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 21, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Jesus. Tommy, Tom, Carr has expressed an interest in the Tipperary job. In the name of God, no. I know Declan hurled for Tipp, but that's no excuse!

Tipp would want to stay well clear. if he took Tipp job would he be the first manager to manage in all 4 provinces as previously managed Dublin,Roscommon and Cavan??

Great CV! What more could you ask for ;D. Appoint him before somebody else snares him.

Yes, and free the airwaves from his uninspiring voice next Summer.

Cake for co-commentator.

So long as he leaves his triangles at home.

He'll bring a new angle to the live coverage alright.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 10:16:43 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

He has a great record under the radar in fairness.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 10:16:43 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

He has a great record under the radar in fairness.
Denis or our new man?!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Is there anyone out there Martin Carney could manage?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 10:16:43 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

He has a great record under the radar in fairness.
Denis or our new man?!

Denis.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 10:45:41 AM
Just double checked there to make sure it was the right Denis Connerton I was on about :) It is. I also noticed, to my surprise, that my cousin is manager of the Longford Senior Hurlers. He kept that quiet!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2015, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 10:45:41 AM
I also noticed, to my surprise, that my cousin is manager of the Longford Senior Hurlers. He kept that quiet!
You probably would do  :D
Is he a Wexford man?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
No, Westmeath. He used to manage the Westmeath minors, and Tullamore in the Offaly SHC.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2015, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Is there anyone out there Martin Carney could manage?
Him and Tommy Tom Tom are waiting for the Meath vacancy.

Johnny Magee reappointed in Wicklow. He says he had only 2 players fit enough for 70 minutes  County football last November and that had got up to 7 by May. :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 28, 2015, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Is there anyone out there Martin Carney could manage?
Him and Tommy Tom Tom are waiting for the Meath vacancy.

Johnny Magee reappointed in Wicklow. He says he had only 2 players fit enough for 70 minutes  County football last November and that had got up to 7 by May. :-\

Didn't stop us in 2001.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on August 29, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=243321&utm_source=Live+GAA+Results&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

Out with it. Sure it'll come out sooner or later anyway.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: muppet on August 29, 2015, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Is there anyone out there Martin Carney could manage?

He managed 3 teams to AIFs in the 1990s IIRC.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 29, 2015, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Is there anyone out there Martin Carney could manage?

He managed 3 teams to AIFs in the 1990s IIRC.

There was no malice in them either.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

Out with it. Sure it'll come out sooner or later anyway.

Hope it's true because we won't have to listen to any more of his shite on the Sunday Game now
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: heffo on August 29, 2015, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

Out with it. Sure it'll come out sooner or later anyway.

Hope it's true because we won't have to listen to any more of his shite on the Sunday Game now

If it's Curran you're talking about I don't he'll be back next year either way
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 29, 2015, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

Out with it. Sure it'll come out sooner or later anyway.

Hope it's true because we won't have to listen to any more of his shite on the Sunday Game now

If it's Curran you're talking about I don't he'll be back next year either way

I was hoping it's Mc Stay
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: heffo on August 29, 2015, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 29, 2015, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

Out with it. Sure it'll come out sooner or later anyway.

Hope it's true because we won't have to listen to any more of his shite on the Sunday Game now

If it's Curran you're talking about I don't he'll be back next year either way

I was hoping it's Mc Stay

Ahh no, no, no...it cant be
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 29, 2015, 02:37:39 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 29, 2015, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 29, 2015, 02:07:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton appointed in Longford.
The word on the bushes is we have our man too.
But all top secret ;)

Out with it. Sure it'll come out sooner or later anyway.

Hope it's true because we won't have to listen to any more of his shite on the Sunday Game now

If it's Curran you're talking about I don't he'll be back next year either way

I was hoping it's Mc Stay

Ahh no, no, no...it cant be

He might bring triangles with him or better yet there was no malice in that
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
Cake has pissed off too many of the execs to make the management team. That and he has about five months worth of coaching under his belt at this stage. I reckon he'll be a regular on The Sunday Game though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: heffo on August 29, 2015, 03:42:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
I reckon he'll be a regular on The Sunday Game though.

Did you not see my previous post?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 03:46:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 29, 2015, 03:42:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
I reckon he'll be a regular on The Sunday Game though.

Did you not see my previous post?

Cake is the sort of lad The Sunday Game like. When Cake calms down (rarely happens) he can make an odd good point.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2015, 09:45:48 PM

Would Pillar be a good fit for Ros?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 29, 2015, 09:45:48 PM

Would Pillar be a good fit for Ros?

No.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2015, 10:53:35 PM
JBM steps down in Cork
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 29, 2015, 09:45:48 PM

Would Pillar be a good fit for Ros?

No.

Why not?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2015, 10:57:22 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 29, 2015, 10:53:35 PM
JBM steps down in Cork

One of the greats.

Can t see a queue lining up for that one either now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 29, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 29, 2015, 09:45:48 PM

Would Pillar be a good fit for Ros?

No.

Why not?

Never even rated him when he was Dublin manager. No better than the man we got rid of, probably worse even.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2015, 11:17:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 29, 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2015, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 29, 2015, 09:45:48 PM

Would Pillar be a good fit for Ros?

No.

Why not?

Never even rated him when he was Dublin manager. No better than the man we got rid of, probably worse even.

Where did you think Pillar was lacking?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2015, 11:23:26 PM
Johnsen Evansheen is God to some bucks in our Co. ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 29, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
They should appoint Zeus or perhaps Buddha as Ros manager. Only they would be worthy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 29, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
They should appoint Zeus or perhaps Buddha as Ros manager. Only they would be worthy.

Zeus had a reputation for taking advantage of his assess to young women.

The Rossies might have had a bit of that already.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2015, 06:54:21 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 29, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
They should appoint Zeus or perhaps Buddha as Ros manager. Only they would be worthy.
Still not convinced they would do any better ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:35:13 PM
Is there something at play up in Tyrone? Mickey Harte's ratification wasn't dealt with last night..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 01:41:29 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:35:13 PM
Is there something at play up in Tyrone? Mickey Harte's ratification wasn't dealt with last night..

Sure weren't the knives out all year?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
yeah, I assumed his march to the semi final and the decent showing against Kerry would have made him an automatic.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:43:35 PM
yeah, I assumed his march to the semi final and the decent showing against Kerry would have made him an automatic.

Sounds like it might be Harte himself is having second thoughts though? Might be sick and tired of the grind.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:46:36 PM
If it is, he changed his mind very quickly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:46:36 PM
If it is, he changed his mind very quickly.

Evans jumped before he was pushed when he saw there was a gang out for his head here. Who knows what the climate is in the heads of club delegates. But Harte did say he wanted to continue so..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 01:49:23 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Any Tyrone lads know what's going on up there? It's only a 3 hour drive to Offaly...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 02:54:54 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
No, Westmeath. He used to manage the Westmeath minors, and Tullamore in the Offaly SHC.

Jesus you're steeped in Westmeath GAA. Time to come back to the mother ship.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 22, 2015, 11:27:10 AM
Latest -
Donegal - Current man most likely staying
Derry - Damien Barton appointed 22/9/15
Antrim - does anyone know or care?
Down-  - vacancy
Armagh - ??
Monaghan - Malachy to stay it seems.
Cavan - Hyland reappointed
Fermanagh - I expect Pete will be a shoo in
Tyrone - St Mickey re appointed 15/9/15.
;
Sligo - Carew re appointed I believe
Leitrim - Shane Ward reappointed I believe
Ros - KMcStay/Fergal ratified 5/10/15
Mayowestros -VACANT  ;D
Galway - Walsh most likely to be reappointed
London - Vacancy

Clare -vacant?
Limerick- Brudair recommended for re appointment.
Tipp - Vacant
Waterford - vacant?
Cork -Vacant
Kerry - Fitzmaurice re appointed.

Louth - ??
Meath - Dowd for 2 more years
Westmeath - Cribbin for another year?
Longford - Denis Connerton appointed.
Laois -Vacant
Offaly - Flanagan for another year?
Carlow -??
Wexford - ?
Wicklow- Johnny Magee ratified 27/8.
Dublin - Shoo in for Galvin unless he goes himself
Kildare - Cian O'Neill announced 3/10/15
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Bingo on September 22, 2015, 11:29:00 AM
You've Malachy down as Will he stay???

I would suggest he is, hasn't missed a championship match in Monaghan over the last 4/5 weeks.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 11:30:56 AM
Just on Limerick there, I heard a whisper that Stephen Wallace, the Kerry Junior manager the last two years, has been nominated for that job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
KCB keeping their cards close to their chests! Even rumours have dried up. John Evans has kindly ruled himself out, which was nice of him. Think it's between Glenn Ryan and Brian Murphy myself, just praying it's not a journey man.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
KCB keeping their cards close to their chests! Even rumours have dried up. John Evans has kindly ruled himself out, which was nice of him. Think it's between Glenn Ryan and Brian Murphy myself, just praying it's not a journey man.

Waiting for Cian O'Neill to finish up with Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
KCB keeping their cards close to their chests! Even rumours have dried up. John Evans has kindly ruled himself out, which was nice of him. Think it's between Glenn Ryan and Brian Murphy myself, just praying it's not a journey man.

Waiting for Cian O'Neill to finish up with Kerry.

I'd like to think so except this nugget from the Kerry Chairman

Kerry GAA Chairman Patrick O'Sullivan confirms in Tralee tonight that Eamonn Fitzmaurice and his management team are staying on next year.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 22, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 11:30:56 AM
Just on Limerick there, I heard a whisper that Stephen Wallace, the Kerry Junior manager the last two years, has been nominated for that job.

Did very good work with the Kerry Juniors by all account - will be interesting to see how he gets on in a far trickier environment. I posted before about the Kerry Juniors beating the Limerick seniors in a challenge game early in the year.

Ronan McCarthy has the Cork job apparently. A lot of Cork folk very unimpressed I've heard.

In Wexford David Power will surely be staying on if he wants to given the win over Down, the age profile of the squad and getting to semi-final of the Junior and getting  a very respectable loss to the Kerry team, when the same team trounced Cork and Mayo (two of the serious operators at Junior level)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
A left field candidate for Kildare be discussed on the Kildare forum is Jack Cooney.

Any strong opinions on him from the Westmeath, Donegal or Sligo posters?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on September 22, 2015, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
A left field candidate for Kildare be discussed on the Kildare forum is Jack Cooney.

Any strong opinions on him from the Westmeath, Donegal or Sligo posters?

From a Westmeath perspective he was a selector under Paidi. Then he trained his own club Kinnegad. Took over half way through 2010 when they were going poorly. They got relegated, but he brought them straight back up. I have heard that they really took to him in Celbridge, where I think he won a league title last year. No doubt he learned a lot in the past year with Donegal.

Why would Sligo have an opinion? I'm not aware of him having trained a team up there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 02:36:37 PM
He trained IT Sligo I believe when Martin McHugh was manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on September 22, 2015, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 02:36:37 PM
He trained IT Sligo I believe when Martin McHugh was manager.

Ah ok, I wasn't aware.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 22, 2015, 10:10:36 PM
Damian Barton for the Sperrin men according to the Twitterverse
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnpower on September 22, 2015, 10:37:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
A left field candidate for Kildare be discussed on the Kildare forum is Jack Cooney.

Any strong opinions on him from the Westmeath, Donegal or Sligo posters?

I would have thought Glen Ryan would have been a string favourite for the Kildare job? Have the clubs a strong part in deciding who gets the job?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 22, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
KCB keeping their cards close to their chests! Even rumours have dried up. John Evans has kindly ruled himself out, which was nice of him. Think it's between Glenn Ryan and Brian Murphy myself, just praying it's not a journey man.

Waiting for Cian O'Neill to finish up with Kerry.

I'd like to think so except this nugget from the Kerry Chairman

Kerry GAA Chairman Patrick O'Sullivan confirms in Tralee tonight that Eamonn Fitzmaurice and his management team are staying on next year.

Diarmuid Murphy must have settled himself so. At one point it looked like he was resigning during the game. Seemed to be fairly laying into Fitzmaurice.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on September 22, 2015, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 22, 2015, 10:10:36 PM
Damian Barton for the Sperrin men according to the Twitterverse

Yeah that one is going down well as you can imagine!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2015, 11:00:15 PM
Please keep that one to the county forum we embarrassed enough, an absolute baffling appointment, think i take up golf for the next 3 years!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Red eye on September 22, 2015, 11:23:18 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 20, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: SamFever on August 20, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
From Gaelic Life Twitter;;;;
GAELIC Life understands that Jim McCorry is to consider his position as manager of the Down senior football team.

The county executive met with the Mourne boss this week, and McCorry had hoped that a number of his doubts would be allayed. It seems, however, that issues still remain in place.

It is believed that McCorry requested the meeting four weeks ago, and the delay in scheduling it has not helped the siutation.

He is now likely to discuss the matter with his management team and advisors. It is understood that the Down players are very keen on him to remain in charge.

Despite a disappointing championship campaign, including a qualifier defeat to Wexford, McCorry appeared to be on solid ground due to it being his first year in charge, and also, due to the fact that he guided the team into division one.

That belief, however, fell apart when the county management recommended that he be removed from his post last month on a 7-6 score after they held a vote.

In the subsequent county board meeting, the clubs and board voted 23-13 in his favour. The seven who voted against him in the management committee then cast another seven votes against him to bring it to an overall 22-20 figure, ensuring he was retained as manager.

As for now, McCorry remains in charge and he was present at a number of club championship matches in recent weeks as he tries to spot new talent. Dan Gordon and Martin Clarke are expected to return to the county scene for the 2016 season.

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Saw that - know his comments after qualifier defeat didn't endear him among the Down support, and am still unsure. Claiming promotion to Div 1 was unexpected but they'll be under pressure to stay there, even with Dan and Marty back on board.
Am sure supporters are looking at Fermanagh and thinking there's a Down manager with a good record and yet he's in Fermanagh. Dunno what the County Board have against Pete but Down's loss looks like Fermanagh's gain.
If Sean Ward continues with the good work at Burren might be an option in another year or two but he would need to carry on with good work being done at present.
Can't see Armagh not reappointing Geezer.
What's the craic in Derry - Baker not considered? Barton? Or are they def looking outside the county - think last non Derry manager was Mullins?

Baker... God no!

Barton... Has a terrible record and there's probably not enough money in it for him!


So in spite of the poor record - and it is poor - still gonna fire money at it - heard he was around midfield for most of Kilreas match last week - will have to wind that in!!

Kilrea may be happy enough - seems Clubs do ok after he leaves!
Good luck with it - think you'll need it!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 23, 2015, 09:18:38 AM
Quote from: shark on September 22, 2015, 02:25:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 02:06:46 PM
A left field candidate for Kildare be discussed on the Kildare forum is Jack Cooney.

Any strong opinions on him from the Westmeath, Donegal or Sligo posters?

From a Westmeath perspective he was a selector under Paidi. Then he trained his own club Kinnegad. Took over half way through 2010 when they were going poorly. They got relegated, but he brought them straight back up. I have heard that they really took to him in Celbridge, where I think he won a league title last year. No doubt he learned a lot in the past year with Donegal.

Why would Sligo have an opinion? I'm not aware of him having trained a team up there.

Also big into the gym work which would suit Kildare down to the ground  :P
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 23, 2015, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 22, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 22, 2015, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
KCB keeping their cards close to their chests! Even rumours have dried up. John Evans has kindly ruled himself out, which was nice of him. Think it's between Glenn Ryan and Brian Murphy myself, just praying it's not a journey man.

Waiting for Cian O'Neill to finish up with Kerry.

I'd like to think so except this nugget from the Kerry Chairman

Kerry GAA Chairman Patrick O'Sullivan confirms in Tralee tonight that Eamonn Fitzmaurice and his management team are staying on next year.

Diarmuid Murphy must have settled himself so. At one point it looked like he was resigning during the game. Seemed to be fairly laying into Fitzmaurice.

I thought that was with Cian O'Neill initially. It looked to be about the Gooch and what was happening him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 29, 2015, 02:49:35 PM
A Mick Lillis appointed in Laois I believe while the only candidate for the Ros job has been recommended by the "Special Committee".
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 29, 2015, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 22, 2015, 01:55:44 PMRonan McCarthy has the Cork job apparently. A lot of Cork folk very unimpressed I've heard.


Heard that Cleary might well be back in the running for the Cork job - apparently Frank got it from all angles from a fair few of Cleary's old teammates and a few more of the Cork GAA footballing great and good at the 25th anniversary of the 1990 win.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 06, 2015, 12:07:20 AM
Some confirmed "ratifications"

Kildare - Cian O'Neill - three year term
Roscommon - Liam McStay and Fergal O'Donnell - Stephen Bohan, David Casey and Liam McHale are among the backroom team.
Laois - Mick Lillis - three year term

Cleary out of the running for the Cork job again - Serious shenanigans going on below there it appears.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on October 06, 2015, 08:07:09 AM
Still only rumours in tipp....Liam kearns, donie Buckley and Jason Ryan being mentioned. Donie Buckley would be brilliant but don't know if we could afford him. Would be really disappointed if it's Jason ryan
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 06, 2015, 10:45:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.

Kearns is a decent coach. Much better than some of the names mentioned in relation to the Tipp job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 06, 2015, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: tippabu on October 06, 2015, 08:07:09 AM
Still only rumours in tipp....Liam kearns, donie Buckley and Jason Ryan being mentioned. Donie Buckley would be brilliant but don't know if we could afford him. Would be really disappointed if it's Jason ryan

Had always heard that Buckley had very little interest in being a manager - was far happier being a coach. Can see him leaving Mayo with all the goings-on but I'd be surprised if he ended up as manager somewhere.

No talk of Power returning from Wexford?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 07, 2015, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: tippabu on October 06, 2015, 08:07:09 AM
Still only rumours in tipp....Liam kearns, donie Buckley and Jason Ryan being mentioned. Donie Buckley would be brilliant but don't know if we could afford him. Would be really disappointed if it's Jason ryan

O Riordan would be a big loss for a new manager coming in. http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1007/732980-oriordan-and-joyce-looking-for-afl-spots/


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on October 07, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 07, 2015, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: tippabu on October 06, 2015, 08:07:09 AM
Still only rumours in tipp....Liam kearns, donie Buckley and Jason Ryan being mentioned. Donie Buckley would be brilliant but don't know if we could afford him. Would be really disappointed if it's Jason ryan

O Riordan would be a big loss for a new manager coming in. http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1007/732980-oriordan-and-joyce-looking-for-afl-spots/

From what ive heard O'Riordan pretty much has a deal done with essendon, combine pretty much a formality. Massive loss alright. Couple of young players in philip quirke and coleman kennedy who id hoped would be in the senior set looks like they wont be playing next year either, quirkes cruciate is bollixed and kennedy is back in america for final year of collage. Still have a very young team, this next appointment  is a big one for us in developing our squad
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 08, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
So only Down, Mayowestros, Tipp and Cork left to get a Manager?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 08, 2015, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
So only Down, Mayowestros, Tipp and Cork left to get a Manager?

Down - James McCartan resigned 26th of July 2015 - 74 days
Mayo - Connolly and Holmes resigned 2nd of October 2015 - 8 days
Tipp - Creedon resigned 18th of July 2015 - 82 days
Cork - Cuthbert resigned 29th of July 2015 - 71 days

Down, Cork and Tipp taking a fairly relaxed approach to the whole thing.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 08, 2015, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 08, 2015, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
So only Down, Mayowestros, Tipp and Cork left to get a Manager?

Down - James McCartan resigned 26th of July 2015 - 74 days
Mayo - Connolly and Holmes resigned 2nd of October 2015 - 8 days
Tipp - Creedon resigned 18th of July 2015 - 82 days
Cork - Cuthbert resigned 29th of July 2015 - 71 days

Down, Cork and Tipp taking a fairly relaxed approach to the whole thing.
James is gone longer than that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on October 10, 2015, 02:28:16 PM
http://m.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/1010/733780-colin-oriordan-signs-with-the-sydney-swans/

that's Colin gone..All the best to him, chance of a lifetime
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 14, 2015, 11:50:37 AM
Westmeath appoint Emmett McDonnell as U21 manager, will hook up with the seniors as well from what I hear. Good appointment, great experience and record with St. Mary's Edenderry and has two years senior inter county under his belt with Offaly. First dedicated U21 manager since 2007 so we might actually do something this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on October 18, 2015, 09:48:20 AM
Cork GAA confirms the appointment of Peadar Healy (Naomh Abán) in the role of Cork senior football manager for a two year term 2016-2017.

Healy was previously a selector and coach with the Cork senior football team from 2008 to 2013 reaching All Ireland championship deciders in 2009 and beating Down in 2010 while going on to recorded an NFL Division 1 treble in 2010/2011/2012. 

A former All Ireland winning Cork minor (1981) he was more recently involved with the O'Donovan Rossa and Dr Crokes clubs.

Commenting on the appointment, County Chairman Gerard Lane said, "On behalf of the County Board, I would like to wish Peadar all the best in his new position.

I would also like to thank all the candidates who expressed an interest in the position, and also the members of the appointments committee for their endeavours."

The new manager has been appointed for a two-year term and will name his backroom team in due course.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on October 18, 2015, 10:08:45 AM

I'm assuming this article has glossed over his managerial experience?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angus on October 18, 2015, 09:12:32 PM
Well, I think there is a 99% chances that Kevin Walsh will definitely remain as the manager of Galway!  ;)

http://connachttribune.ie/kevin-walsh-and-anthony-cunningham-reappointed-for-2016-gaa-season-375/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: snoopdog on October 18, 2015, 09:26:35 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 08, 2015, 06:22:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2015, 05:23:14 PM
So only Down, Mayowestros, Tipp and Cork left to get a Manager?

Down - James McCartan resigned 26th of July 2015 - 74 days
Mayo - Connolly and Holmes resigned 2nd of October 2015 - 8 days
Tipp - Creedon resigned 18th of July 2015 - 82 days
Cork - Cuthbert resigned 29th of July 2015 - 71 days

Down, Cork and Tipp taking a fairly relaxed approach to the whole thing.

Jim McCorry not Wee James, he went in 2014. But Down no closer to an appointment. Current favourite looks to be Frank Dawson. But that could change.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.

Liam Kearns it is.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 02, 2015, 09:14:11 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.

Liam Kearns it is.

Kearns a quietly good coach. Bit like our late appointment of John Evans a few years ago. People not terribly enthused but he might get on pretty well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on November 02, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 02, 2015, 09:14:11 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.

Liam Kearns it is.

Learns a quietly good coach. But like our late appointment of John Evans a few years ago. People not terribly enthused but he might get on pretty well.

Best of luck to him. I don't think it's the step forward they were hoping for, but I suppose who is available that Tipp could afford? I'm not sure about this at all though. I think McGeechin and Tommy Twomey are staying on board in the backroom team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: heffo on November 03, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 02, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 02, 2015, 09:14:11 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.

Liam Kearns it is.

Learns a quietly good coach. But like our late appointment of John Evans a few years ago. People not terribly enthused but he might get on pretty well.
but I suppose who is available that Tipp could afford?

I can't imagine Kearns is any cheaper than Jason Ryan
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2015, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: heffo on November 03, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 02, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 02, 2015, 09:14:11 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM
Or Liam Kearns. Kearns' ship sailed in the noughties with Limerick I think. He wouldn't be a step forward from Creedon, that's for sure.

Liam Kearns it is.

Learns a quietly good coach. But like our late appointment of John Evans a few years ago. People not terribly enthused but he might get on pretty well.
but I suppose who is available that Tipp could afford?

I can't imagine Kearns is any cheaper than Jason Ryan

How much was JR on Heffo? Send a pm if out of bounds for discussion. Just curious.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 04, 2015, 07:32:40 AM
Have Down got a manager? Or is it only ourselves putting a 'process' in place?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Disillusioned on November 04, 2015, 08:45:57 AM
Danny Hughes takes quite a pop at previous Down managers in the Irish News today (4-11-15).

He gets a dig at wee James for the way he was pushed out of the squad and certainly it highlights an issue when you are warming up in Clones and told over the loudspeaker that you are not in the match day squad.

However, he reserves his biggest hit for Jim McCorry who he compares to Jose Mourinho in relation to his over confidence leading to losing the players.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: illdecide on November 04, 2015, 09:11:15 AM
Quote from: Disillusioned on November 04, 2015, 08:45:57 AM
Danny Hughes takes quite a pop at previous Down managers in the Irish News today (4-11-15).

He gets a dig at wee James for the way he was pushed out of the squad and certainly it highlights an issue when you are warming up in Clones and told over the loudspeaker that you are not in the match day squad.

However, he reserves his biggest hit for Jim McCorry who he compares to Jose Mourinho in relation to his over confidence leading to losing the players.

Yeah read that this morning...some of it is fair enough and the team or squad should be told before they strip out but what i don't like is all these ex players getting their cheap digs into past managers...it's not right
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: whatifs on November 04, 2015, 12:02:20 PM
have went of danny hughes,find he moans alot about thinks that happened in his past and as people say seems to bear grudge against down managements,often wonder what his column is for in irish news??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 5 Sams on November 05, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Quote from: whatifs on November 04, 2015, 12:02:20 PM
have went of danny hughes,find he moans alot about thinks that happened in his past and as people say seems to bear grudge against down managements,often wonder what his column is for in irish news??


?????? Google Translate doesn't work in this case :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: maigheo on November 05, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
By any chance Whatifs,do you post on Mayo gas blog under a different user name?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on November 12, 2015, 01:26:08 PM
Still no agreement in place for Liam kearns taking over tipp
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on November 12, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
It's getting a bit ridiculous/embarrassing now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 05, 2017, 06:49:12 AM
Derry and Offaly on the look out for new mangers. http://www.the42.ie/pat-flanagan-offaly-damien-barton-derry-3479248-Jul2017/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on July 05, 2017, 09:08:01 AM
not surprised by Pat Flanagan, but I'm not sure what they are going to do that's better. Pat would have wanted to get out of Div 3, and when that didn't happen he needed a big championship. Losing to WH compounded matters and I'd say that was that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 05, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 05, 2017, 09:08:01 AM
not surprised by Pat Flanagan, but I'm not sure what they are going to do that's better. Pat would have wanted to get out of Div 3, and when that didn't happen he needed a big championship. Losing to WH compounded matters and I'd say that was that.

Agree, he was getting the most out of what is there, just doesn't have that extra gear you need for championship. Pascal Kellaghan mentioned but not sure if he'd take it yet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 05:26:28 PM
4 gone as Louth and Wicklow parted company with their men over the last few weeks.
Sligo next?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2017, 05:46:22 PM
Mayo could be next at this rate..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on July 05, 2017, 08:06:37 PM
Would Rossies not be next after sunday.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 05, 2017, 10:20:07 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 05, 2017, 09:08:01 AM
not surprised by Pat Flanagan, but I'm not sure what they are going to do that's better. Pat would have wanted to get out of Div 3, and when that didn't happen he needed a big championship. Losing to WH compounded matters and I'd say that was that.

He always seemed to have the team motivated anyway (Armagh result aside), he could have done with another Peter Cunningham for the forwards though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 05, 2017, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: skeog on July 05, 2017, 08:06:37 PM
Would Rossies not be next after sunday.
Naw.
Manager shafting season in Ros occurs in September.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 05, 2017, 11:38:26 PM
Pete McGrath is confirmed as Fermanagh manager for 2018
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2017, 11:56:08 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 05, 2017, 11:38:26 PM
Pete McGrath is confirmed as Fermanagh manager for 2018

Good get for Fermanagh. He'd be in demand in more than a few counties. He's not done a whole lot wrong in his time in charge.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 06, 2017, 06:21:50 AM
Will the Derry minor manager get the senior gig now?

He's done some impressive work of late.

Hard to assess Barton, two fairly uninspiring league campaigns and feeble Ulster Championship displays but they seemed galvanised in the qualifiers and played with a bit of spirit that Derry teams don't always do. Considering the amount of withdrawals in Derry this year, I'm not sure if he could have done much more.

For me, Derry have the players to win Ulsters, players like McKinless, McBride, Johnstone, McGoldrick, Holly, Emmett Bradley etc are all quality players and if they had a full playing hand then I think you'd see them probably be as good as anyone else in Ulster now, bar Tyrone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 07, 2017, 08:54:25 AM
you'd wonder at Pat Flanagan

offaly have definitely improved under him
apparently the county board didn't give him much bsvking in terms of equipment and there are expenses due to management and other backroom staff. when that is going on its never going to work out well
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 10:46:29 AM
Seems Pat first heard of his sacking was when his wife saw it on Twitter or Facebook!!!
Some  way to treat anone.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2017, 02:52:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 07, 2017, 10:46:29 AM
Seems Pat first heard of his sacking was when his wife saw it on Twitter or Facebook!!!
Some  way to treat anone.....

Almost as bad as he treated Sligo. What goes around comes a-fúckin-round.

Offaly are some joke, but surely to God that wasn't news to Pat?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on July 07, 2017, 04:24:45 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/pat-flanagan-learned-of-offaly-axe-from-wife-454284.html

QuotePat Flanagan learned of Offaly axe from wife
   
Friday, July 07, 2017 Jackie Cahill
Pat Flanagan has revealed that it was his wife who informed him that he had been axed as Offaly senior football team manager on Tuesday evening.

At a county board meeting, Flanagan was ousted after a recommendation brought forward by the top table was passed.

Breaking his silence on the matter, Flanagan claims that a promise of €4,000 for gym equipment last November wasn't followed through, and that he was informed in February that the money wouldn't be forthcoming.

He also revealed that having requested a video analysis programme, a team doctor and GPS tracking systems, and been told that they would be in place before the start of the Allianz League campaign, none were delivered. Flanagan alleges, too, that there's an ongoing issue with expenses due to management and strength and conditioning coach David Hare.

Flanagan believes his efforts to progress Offaly football were hampered behind the scenes during his three-year tenure.

"It was extremely disappointing that my wife found out on social media, and informed me on Tuesday night, of the decision. It's been an honour and privilege to get the opportunity to manage my own county.

"As a person who captained Offaly at U-14, minor and U-21, it was a pleasure to do that and work with those young Offaly men who are a credit to themselves, their families and their county.

"I'm disappointed that I wasn't more persuasive in some of the things that I tried to achieve with the county board."

Flanagan, who'd previously managed Westmeath and Sligo, explained how he wanted a high-profile figure, with a proven record of success, present alongside him to review his first season at the helm in 2015.

He said: "I requested that someone of the calibre of Sean Boylan or Tommy Lyons would be part of that meeting to assess what I'd achieved in my first year, and to make recommendations for the coming year.

"We didn't get that opportunity and they (county board) brought on a local man, (former player) Vinny Claffey.

"I wanted somebody that had achieved as a manager in the Leinster championship, and learn from him, to give Offaly the best opportunity possible of moving forward."

Flanagan also says that his suggestion to run weekend forums to oversee the development of teams at all grades was also not acted upon.

He added that shortly before going on a two-week holiday in 2015, he was asked to draw up short and long-term plans relating to his vision for the future of Offaly football.

Having worked diligently on that during his break, Flanagan said: "The reaction of then secretary Tommy Byrne was one of 'shock horror', and 'do you want to come in and run the county board?' That plan hasn't seen the light of day since."

And detailing the series of events that led to what was effectively his sacking as team manager, Flanagan said: "I got a phone call on Monday evening from Tommy Byrne, the chairman, and he said to me that following a meeting of the new committee, it was recommended that my name wouldn't be put forward, and that would be going to the (county board) meeting the following day.

"He said that I could make a statement and put it in the paper the next day, explaining that I wasn't going forward and they would back me fully.

"I rang him back on Tuesday, an hour before the county board meeting, and said I wasn't resigning.

"I asked for a meeting with club delegates, which wasn't offered to me either. He said he'd ring me back later. I haven't heard anything since."

Flanagan concluded by thanking the previous Offaly county board chairman, Padraig Boland, for giving him the chance to manage the team, having been nominated for the position by Tullamore's Fergal McKeon.

He also thanked groundsman Liam Corcoran, who looks after the team's Walsh Island training base, as well as media and "genuine" team supporters and paid tribute to his backroom team and selectors James Stewart, Declan Farrell and Pat Daly, along with Hare and his team.

When contacted last night, Offaly county board chairman Tommy Byrne responded: "It's common knowledge what happened on Tuesday night. "It came before a full county board meeting and was dealt with there."

When asked about Flanagan's claims on requests for gym equipment and other matters, Byrne said: "I'm not really going to get into stuff like that, he's the ex-manager.

"I'm not getting into a tit-for-tat, that's going nowhere."
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 06:48:48 PM
Pete McGrath has informed the County Chairperson Greg Kelly today that he is resigning from his position of FermanaghSenior Manager.

Just been released by Fermanagh county board.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2017, 07:03:32 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 06:48:48 PM
Pete McGrath has informed the County Chairperson Greg Kelly today that he is resigning from his position of FermanaghSenior Manager.

Just been released by Fermanagh county board.

What the hell happened, Ferm?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 14, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 06:48:48 PM
Pete McGrath has informed the County Chairperson Greg Kelly today that he is resigning from his position of FermanaghSenior Manager.

Just been released by Fermanagh county board.
I presume he was told a lot of the players that didn't make themselves available for selection in 2017 won't in 2018 either? or Maybe he has eyes on the Derry job?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
Seems to have lost some of the dressing room from initial reports.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
There's going to some scramble for McGrath by a lot of counties..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 07:25:15 PM
I would think so.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 07:25:15 PM
I would think so.

Are you disappointed he's gone? It would appear from the outside he did a lot to bring Fermanagh up a level. I know I'll never forget that comeback in Brewster in 2015..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 14, 2017, 08:20:59 PM
Pete did a great job with Fermanagh.
We lost alot of men when Canavan left and it was very much doom and gloom.
He blooded alot of younger players that had been left kicking their heals in that first year
and learned alot himself about the demands of modern football.
Year 2 was the pinnacle. Promotion to division 2 , and the run to the quarter final.
Year 3 was not a bad year either when you think we stayed in division 2 and were beaten by Donegal and Mayo in championship.
Year 4 could have been better but he lost a lot of men to retirement and injury.
The year fell apart after the Derry game. We should  have won that game and stayed up.
Instead we conceded a silly goal and got relegated.
It's strange when you consider where Down are now.
If we had of won that Derry game then it could have gave the panel the confidence to push on.
Instead we had a timid enough championship. We should have prefromed better against Armagh.

Pete has left the Fermanagh team in a better place than when he got the job.
He has developed a number of players and his enthusiasm for the game has rubbed off on them
Whoever gets him next will be lucky.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on July 14, 2017, 08:45:34 PM
Pete McGrath taking charge of Louth for next year would seem a very logical move.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 09:33:56 PM
I'd like to see Cavan go get him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 14, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2017, 09:33:56 PM
I'd like to see Cavan go get him.
Would be a good fit for Cavan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
Derry, Sligo, Leitrim, Offaly, Westmeath, Cavan and an number of other counties who go off the rails in the next few weeks will be looking at him, and if they don't they should be. He should have his pick of a number of jobs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on July 15, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Good man Syfergus Mattie be glad to hear he is no longer Cavan boss.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 15, 2017, 02:40:37 PM
Quote from: skeog on July 15, 2017, 02:32:05 PM
Good man Syfergus Mattie be glad to hear he is no longer Cavan boss.

It doesn't sound like the local population have much desire for him to continue. Bad appointment after Hyland, to be honest.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 05:51:24 PM
Westmeath join the manager hunt as Cribbin moves on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 15, 2017, 05:55:10 PM
Pete McGrath to spill the beans on his resignation on Monday.  Promising to give the full details.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 15, 2017, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 15, 2017, 05:51:24 PM
Westmeath join the manager hunt as Cribbin moves on.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0715/890507-tom-cribbin-steps-down-as-westmeath-manager/

Included the unforgettable win over Meath
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2017, 09:40:33 AM
Longford will prob also be on the lookout as Denis Connerton is expected to step down as he has just retired as a school principal and may be travelling. Few names being mentioned.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 16, 2017, 09:58:29 AM
Fergal O'Donnell?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2017, 11:02:32 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 16, 2017, 09:58:29 AM
Fergal O'Donnell?

Yes. Dispatches mention him. He has form in Longford - managing local club, Killoe, of late. Also another North Longford club's manager is being eyed but I think there would be major resistance from the club to pull this Cavan lad away - where he guided them to their first Championship since 195something (as well as a Leinster club semi-final)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 16, 2017, 11:07:26 AM
Longford would be a step down for FOD, to be honest. Any time a Midlands job comes up his name gets bandied about but it's rarely anything meaningful.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2017, 11:17:45 AM
QuoteLongford would be a step down for FOD, to be honest.

::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on July 16, 2017, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 16, 2017, 11:07:26 AM
Longford would be a step down for FOD, to be honest. Any time a Midlands job comes up his name gets bandied about but it's rarely anything meaningful.

How would Longford be a step down for him? What other job is he going to get at county level? The players wanted him out in Roscommon and since he has left we left behind the shite defensive football he had us playing last year with half backs in midfield. The rewards of him leaving and us playing to our strengths were seen this day last week in Salthill.
Don't think Longford could afford money he would be looking for either.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 16, 2017, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on July 16, 2017, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 16, 2017, 11:07:26 AM
Longford would be a step down for FOD, to be honest. Any time a Midlands job comes up his name gets bandied about but it's rarely anything meaningful.

How would Longford be a step down for him? What other job is he going to get at county level? The players wanted him out in Roscommon and since he has left we left behind the shite defensive football he had us playing last year with half backs in midfield. The rewards of him leaving and us playing to our strengths were seen this day last week in Salthill. Needs
Don't think Longford could afford money he would be looking for either.

FOD is a quality manager if left to his own devices. Anyone trying to define him by last year's shit show is being disingenuous at best.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 16, 2017, 12:52:39 PM
Jasus Syfīn I'm inclined to agree with a post of yours :o
I think Oliver's low opinion of FO'D is well known at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2017, 11:02:32 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 16, 2017, 09:58:29 AM
Fergal O'Donnell?

Yes. Dispatches mention him. He has form in Longford - managing local club, Killoe, of late. Also another North Longford club's manager is being eyed but I think there would be major resistance from the club to pull this Cavan lad away - where he guided them to their first Championship since 195something (as well as a Leinster club semi-final)
It can only be Mullinalaghta.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 07:47:03 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890697-mcgrath-reveals-reasosn-for-shock-fermanagh-departure/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on July 16, 2017, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 07:47:03 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890697-mcgrath-reveals-reasosn-for-shock-fermanagh-departure/

Fair play to him for going rather than staying on where he's not wanted. I doubt he'll be short of offers if he wants to get involved with another county
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 16, 2017, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2017, 09:40:33 AM
Longford will prob also be on the lookout as Denis Connerton is expected to step down as he has just retired as a school principal and may be travelling. Few names being mentioned.....
didn't know that.
happy retirement to him!
a gentleman
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orior on July 18, 2017, 09:39:59 AM
I'd say that Pete McGrath could do a good job for Derry, Antrim, Cavan or even Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 18, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
Pete has taken this hard.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: T Fearon on July 18, 2017, 10:46:53 AM
Time for Pete to shuffle off the stage.You're only as good as your last game/season and Fermanagh's in both cases were crap.He is past it,in any case Liam Bradley did a far better job with Antrim a few years back and never got another county job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on July 27, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
Creedon gone from Laois

QuoteDeparting Peter Creedon hits out at Laois rumour mill
   
Thursday, July 27, 2017 Damian Lawlor
Peter Creedon and his Laois management set-up have decided not to seek reappointment for the 2018 season.


Creedon and his backroom team, who oversaw huge progression with the Tipperary footballers before joining Laois, spent just one season with the O'Moore County.

On stepping down, Creedon expressed annoyance at media reports that there had been a drink culture among his squad.

"Although we had the support of the county board executive and the Laois players, we feel staying on would be divisive for the county, given the nature of a recent board meeting," he said.

"This type of generalisation of there being a drink culture in the squad is deeply unfair and divisive given that we were aware of only one incident where three players were absent from an early training session on Easter Monday," Creedon stressed.

Creedon also refuted suggestions that management were aware of players drinking in the days before games.

"The management were not aware of this issue and, in recent discussions with players, we found they were at a loss to explain or substantiate such rumours.

"If anyone has the names, dates, times, and venues of these alleged discrepancies, we would be grateful if they would furnish them immediately to the county board chairman."

The management team accepts that it was a disappointing season — they were relegated to Division 4 on the final day of the NFL and ultimately bowed out of the championship against Clare.

"It was disappointing," Creedon conceded. "However, inches of a post were the difference to us being relegated or staying up and throughout the league we had a number of injuries to contend with.

"Trying to blood new players proved hard as well — but we accept that results were poor and that an inability to keep 15 players on the pitch ultimately led to relegation.

"The training was upped for the championship, though, and our players responded with an emphatic victory over Longford.

"The improved levels of fitness and spirit in the team and our game-plan worked well on the day.

"Two weeks later, unfortunately, our second half performance against Kildare was very flat.

"We regrouped in the qualifiers and left Aughrim with a second championship win of the year but then Clare proved to be too good for us in our last game of the season.

"Again, I felt our second half showing was again very flat once we were reduced to 14 men."

The outgoing management feel Laois are in the midst of a rebuilding process and believe patience is now required.

"Constant reference to the 2003 All-Ireland minor winning teams back-boning the current senior team is now irrelevant," Creedon added.

"Unfortunately, as we tried to bring new players in, we found a lack of understanding from keyboard warriors, some members of local media and some club delegates. A fairer analysis of results over the last four years will show Laois have slipped and are now playing catch-up with Kildare and Meath, in particular, in Leinster.

"The county board has put in place fantastic training facilities and excellent mentors for the underage development squads.

"If all parties in Laois pull together those investments will pay dividends.

"With a dedicated and unified group of young players they can work their way back to the top," Creedon said.

"We leave with our heads held high. The officials of the county board supported us all year and everything that we asked for was given to the panel.

"We had an excellent medical team, great kit men in Ollie and Pat, and a panel of genuine players who gave huge effort to the cause.

"Maybe the results did not reflect their effort but they gave 100% to all training sessions and games."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/departing-peter-creedon-hits-out-at-laois-rumour-mill-455771.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on July 27, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Slightly concerned that I haven't heard our clown has left or been told to feck off.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on July 27, 2017, 01:43:03 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 27, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Slightly concerned that I haven't heard our clown has left or been told to feck off.

Harsh.


(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/unhappy-clown-sitting-wooden-bench-isolated-white-background-40077535.jpg)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on July 27, 2017, 02:07:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 27, 2017, 01:40:44 PM
Slightly concerned that I haven't heard our clown has left or been told to feck off.
Doesn't seem intent on going of his own accord anyway. Sure who needs a new manager to see what's available to him in club championship, our own advice will be enough  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on July 31, 2017, 08:30:51 PM
From the twitter

QuoteOfficial Donegal GAA‏Verified account
@officialdonegal

Donegal GAA wish to confirm Rory Gallagher has stood down as senior manager. Our thanks to Rory...full statement to follow

Jumped before he was pushed I'd imagine.

Maybe a job switch - Pete McGrath to Donegal and Rory to Fermanagh ????
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: dublin7 on July 31, 2017, 08:39:24 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 31, 2017, 08:30:51 PM
From the twitter

QuoteOfficial Donegal GAA‏Verified account
@officialdonegal

Donegal GAA wish to confirm Rory Gallagher has stood down as senior manager. Our thanks to Rory...full statement to follow

Jumped before he was pushed I'd imagine.

Maybe a job switch - Pete McGrath to Donegal and Rory to Fermanagh ????

Jim McGuinness must be celebrating in China tonight. Never missed an opportunity to stick the knife into Rory Gallagher in his newspaper column. Some real cheap shots. I'd imagine his phone must be going mental with Irish journalists looking for a comment
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 08:43:37 PM
Cork, Laois, Longford, Westmeath, Wicklow, Louth, Fermanagh, Donegal.......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on July 31, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Malachy will prob leave monaghan this year too. Eamon burns may go yet and Mattie seems to be hanging on by a thread in Cavan. Big turniver of managers in Ulster this year......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 31, 2017, 10:10:42 PM
Somewhere far away in China Jimmy McGuinness will have a broad grin tonight.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on July 31, 2017, 10:15:07 PM
Quote from: The Trap on July 31, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Malachy will prob leave monaghan this year too. Eamon burns may go yet and Mattie seems to be hanging on by a thread in Cavan. Big turniver of managers in Ulster this year......

By 6pm on Saturday Harte will be done too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on July 31, 2017, 10:22:04 PM
More likely to be mcgeeney. Not getting out of division 3 and losing to two biggest rivals in championship.........scraping past Westmeath tipp and Kildare unlikely to save him!!!!!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BluestackBoy on July 31, 2017, 10:48:04 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 31, 2017, 10:15:07 PM
Quote from: The Trap on July 31, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Malachy will prob leave monaghan this year too. Eamon burns may go yet and Mattie seems to be hanging on by a thread in Cavan. Big turniver of managers in Ulster this year......

By 6pm on Saturday Harte will be done too.

If Tyrone lose to Armagh I'd say Harte will explode never mind resign ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 31, 2017, 11:04:34 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 31, 2017, 10:15:07 PM
Quote from: The Trap on July 31, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Malachy will prob leave monaghan this year too. Eamon burns may go yet and Mattie seems to be hanging on by a thread in Cavan. Big turniver of managers in Ulster this year......

By 6pm on Saturday Harte will be done too.

Genuine pressure on Mickey alrite. Hard to believe  this could be his last match after 15 years of loyal service.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Give and Go on July 31, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 08:43:37 PM
Cork, Laois, Longford, Westmeath, Wicklow, Louth, Fermanagh, Donegal.......
Offaly, Derry
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 01, 2017, 12:21:47 AM
Quote from: The Trap on July 31, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
Malachy will prob leave monaghan this year too. Eamon burns may go yet and Mattie seems to be hanging on by a thread in Cavan. Big turniver of managers in Ulster this year......
Why should he? stayed up in Div one and has reached another All Ireland quarter final. Monaghan will be lost once Malachy leaves.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on August 01, 2017, 12:41:08 AM
Rochford is dead man walking  and McStay will be on thin ice also unless they beat Mayo in replay. Walsh in Galway as well is cooked. Very well done. As a manager you get your shot and that's it. Lucky managers have won AIs - wrong man in right place at the right time. Good managers have not - better team/s about.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 01, 2017, 12:53:55 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 01, 2017, 12:41:08 AM
Rochford is dead man walking  and McStay will be on thin ice also unless they beat Mayo in replay. Walsh in Galway as well is cooked. Very well done. As a manager you get your shot and that's it. Lucky managers have won AIs - wrong man in right place at the right time. Good managers have not - better team/s about.
Rochford will more than likely be gone if Mayo lose the replay to Roscommon. Win and reach another semi final and i can imagine Rochford will be given another year. McStay is only in his first year as outright manager, won Connacht and drew with a top 4 team in Croke park i think its safe to say he'll be Roscommon manager again in 2018. Kevin Walsh will likely be given one more year and given the opportunity to manage his county in Div one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 01, 2017, 01:11:34 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 01, 2017, 12:41:08 AM
Rochford is dead man walking  and McStay will be on thin ice also unless they beat Mayo in replay. Walsh in Galway as well is cooked. Very well done. As a manager you get your shot and that's it. Lucky managers have won AIs - wrong man in right place at the right time. Good managers have not - better team/s about.

McStay is there for as long as he wants it now. Pity for Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2017, 01:14:28 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 31, 2017, 08:30:51 PM
From the twitter

QuoteOfficial Donegal GAA‏Verified account
@officialdonegal

Donegal GAA wish to confirm Rory Gallagher has stood down as senior manager. Our thanks to Rory...full statement to follow

Jumped before he was pushed I'd imagine.

Maybe a job switch - Pete McGrath to Donegal and Rory to Fermanagh ????

It was inevitable. I feel bad for him with the social media abuse. Its a tough time to be an intercounty manager.

Hard to know where we go from here. We clearly have a major rebuilding job with more retirements imminent and a very young squad. People talk about MacNiallais and McLoone being tempted back, and that would help some, especially around the middle, but the tactics issue needs to be addressed also. Murphy must have been drooling with envy watching Donaghy in Croke Park yesterday causing havoc under the early high ball into the full forward line, while the defensive style of play is clearly on the way out.

No idea who they'll target for the job. You hear James Horan mentioned in place, but didn't he quit Mayo due to the demands of a young family combined with work? WTF would drag him all the way up to Convoy a couple of nights a week to rebuild with young players with little senior experience, especially now he has a handy tv gig? Declan Bonner would be an obvious contender given his current role, but he's had it before (albeit 20 years ago) and then went through the debacle where himself and Charlie Mulgrew were offered a joint gig before the CB changed their mind and gave to John Joe Doherty. In addition, I think he's been pretty critical recently of the lack of coordination and planning through the various age ranks in terms of developing young players in the county.

Time for McHugh to put his money where his mouth is? :D

Whoever gets it, they'll do well to keep us in Division 1 and have us playing football in late July. I don't think we'll be bothering the super 8s for a year or two.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on August 01, 2017, 01:23:32 AM
McHugh has the Kernan excuse of not wishing to manage the county when his sons play there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: omaghjoe on August 01, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
There is only one Rory Gallagher in Donegal and it defo isnt this one.

Much as I dislike McGuinness he was a great manager. Gallagher's "Phil Neal" act annoyed me even more and he has proved hiimself to be nothing more than a hanger on as the team got progressively worse every year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 01, 2017, 09:01:23 AM
Forgive my ignorance but what exactly is/was the issue between McGuinness and Gallagher?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: dublin7 on August 01, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 01, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
There is only one Rory Gallagher in Donegal and it defo isnt this one.

Much as I dislike McGuinness he was a great manager. Gallagher's "Phil Neal" act annoyed me even more and he has proved hiimself to be nothing more than a hanger on as the team got progressively worse every year.

In fairness to Gallagher he has had to introduce all the youngsters together because McGuinness didn't. Stuck with the same players and ran them into the ground. Whoever takes over will have a group of young lads who at least have a year's experience behind them
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 01, 2017, 12:41:08 AM
Rochford is dead man walking  and McStay will be on thin ice also unless they beat Mayo in replay. Walsh in Galway as well is cooked. Very well done.
McStay is quite safe now no matter what happens next Monday.
Walsh and Carew are on the thin ice.
Leinster is some graveyard for Managers with the Midlands being a total wipe out. Wonder will Wexford stop wasting money on the Barry buck?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 01, 2017, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2017, 08:43:37 PM
Cork, Laois, Longford, Westmeath, Wicklow, Louth, Fermanagh, Donegal.......

Ahem! Don't forget Offaly. We must be top of the charts in Manager turnover.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
Indeed AZ. Someone added them earlier.
Anyone on the horizon or  are ye engaged in merger talks with Laois?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 01, 2017, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 01, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
Indeed AZ. Someone added them earlier.
Anyone on the horizon or  are ye engaged in merger talks with Laois?

They are too busy trying to kick the chairman out and the chairman is too busy trying to outmanoeuvre them to even thing about new managers. When I despair at our board I remember it could always be worse.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2017, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 01, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 01, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
There is only one Rory Gallagher in Donegal and it defo isnt this one.

Much as I dislike McGuinness he was a great manager. Gallagher's "Phil Neal" act annoyed me even more and he has proved hiimself to be nothing more than a hanger on as the team got progressively worse every year.

In fairness to Gallagher he has had to introduce all the youngsters together because McGuinness didn't. Stuck with the same players and ran them into the ground. Whoever takes over will have a group of young lads who at least have a year's experience behind them

McGuinness left three years ago. And in his last season, when we could easily have won it all again, he introduced Ryan McHugh, Odhran MacNiallais and Darragh O'Connor to the first 15. The likes of Mark McHugh, Paddy McGrath, 17 year old Paddy McBrearty and Dermot Malloy became regulars in his first season. Granted, one would like to have seen another one or two introduced in 2013, in addition to Ryan McHugh making a start, but were the players there?
Gallagher should have started bringing one or two more through last year, in addition to Kieran Gillespie. But he was probably victim as well to circumstance, in that there was a bit of a gap in quality between the young and older players playing football in Donegal. And if you believe the Declan Bonner column in the Donegal News, there is another gap looming following the current crop of young lads who made up this years U-21s.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: omagh_gael on August 01, 2017, 11:45:49 PM
Bonner fairly sticks the knife into Gallagher there. Is he still the u21 manager? Not very cool to be lamenting the lack of talent coming through!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 02, 2017, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on

Happy out.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 02, 2017, 11:03:20 PM
He'll get ten yet, sure if we stumble out of Ruislip next year it'll probably secure him another year alone. What hope we might have for next year is gone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 03, 2017, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
Ahhhhh that's nice......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 03, 2017, 10:22:47 AM
Just wondering if any other county in Ireland has had the Turnover in Hurling and Football managers since 2003, when I believe Paul O'Kelly was badly wronged, as Offaly has had?

Paul O'Kelly 02-03
Gerry Fahy  03-04
Kevin Kilmurray 04-06
Pat Roe 06-08
Richie Connor 08-09
Tom Cribben 09-11
Gerry Cooney 11
Tom Coffey 11
Emmett McDonnell 12-14
Pat Flanagan 14-17

10 managers in 14 years or so.

And in hurling

Michael McNamara 02-04
John McIntyre 04-07
Joe Dooley 07-11 (Unbelievable stint in Offaly terms!)
Ollie Baker 11-13
Brian Whelehan 13-15
Eamon Kelly 15-16
Kevin Ryan 16-17

Average of change every second season.

So we've had 17 different managers in 14 years, or in 28 'team years'. Stability how are you?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 03, 2017, 10:22:47 AM
Just wondering if any other county in Ireland has had the Turnover in Hurling and Football managers since 2003, when I believe Paul O'Kelly was badly wronged, as Offaly has had?

Paul O'Kelly 02-03
Gerry Fahy  03-04
Kevin Kilmurray 04-06
Pat Roe 06-08
Richie Connor 08-09
Tom Cribben 09-11
Gerry Cooney 11
Tom Coffey 11
Emmett McDonnell 12-14
Pat Flanagan 14-17

10 managers in 14 years or so.

And in hurling

Michael McNamara 02-04
John McIntyre 04-07
Joe Dooley 07-11 (Unbelievable stint in Offaly terms!)
Ollie Baker 11-13
Brian Whelehan 13-15
Eamon Kelly 15-16
Kevin Ryan 16-17

Average of change every second season.

So we've had 17 different managers in 14 years, or in 28 'team years'. Stability how are you?

Kildare have had 20 in 112 years....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 03, 2017, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 01, 2017, 11:45:49 PM
Bonner fairly sticks the knife into Gallagher there. Is he still the u21 manager? Not very cool to be lamenting the lack of talent coming through!

Hadn't heard anything to the contrary, so I am assuming he is still U-21 manager. However, he had brought the current bunch up through each age level, so I don't know if he will be going again (he managed them to AI minor runners up in 2014, after also having them as U16s).

I would question his condemnation of the lack of coordination and transition between the successive management teams though - he admits himself he never spoke to his predecessor when he took over the group. He's an influential figure in Donegal football, with a weekly column in a county paper also. Although perhaps he has been trying to improve things behind the scenes and just getting frustrated. Politics and fiefdoms is not exactly new in Donegal GAA, as the likes of McGuinness, McHugh, Mulgrew, Bonner himself and outsiders such as Brian McIvor will attest from their experiences as senior managers or candidates.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 03, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
Again excuse my ignorance but can anyone explain what exactly happened between McGuinness & Gallagher??
Whats the beef
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: vallankumous on August 03, 2017, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 03, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
Again excuse my ignorance but can anyone explain what exactly happened between McGuinness & Gallagher??
Whats the beef

I don't know but if my boss fecked off to Scotland and left me to do his job and my own i'd be annoyed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 01:57:16 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on August 03, 2017, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 03, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
Again excuse my ignorance but can anyone explain what exactly happened between McGuinness & Gallagher??
Whats the beef

I don't know but if my boss fecked off to Scotland and left me to do his job and my own i'd be annoyed.

It doesn't help if you're a bit of a p***k on top of it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: vallankumous on August 03, 2017, 01:59:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 01:57:16 PM


It doesn't help if you're a bit of a p***k on top of it.

I'm a nice guy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 03, 2017, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 03, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
Again excuse my ignorance but can anyone explain what exactly happened between McGuinness & Gallagher??
Whats the beef

According to both, they just started to have different opinions over various issues in 2013. It happens, especially when things aren't running so smoothly.

I think the conflict is over how exactly the end came - did McGuinness sack him or did Gallagher quit?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 5 Sams on August 03, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Kevin Cassidy doesnt mess about in his GL article today. Said McGuinness would never have won the AI without Rory.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 03, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Kevin Cassidy doesnt mess about in his GL article today. Said McGuinness would never have won the AI without Rory.

I think he easily would have.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news
Pure lack of ambition from the Sligo county board by keeping Carew on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2017, 06:44:11 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news

Losing to Sligo in 2015 might just have done more damage to them than winning the match would have. Tough luck.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: omagh_gael on August 03, 2017, 11:26:15 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 03, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Kevin Cassidy doesnt mess about in his GL article today. Said McGuinness would never have won the AI without Rory.

Kevin's view would be, understandably, jaundiced by his own treatment by McGuinness. Did anyone hear Rory's interview on Newstalk? Didn't give away a whole pile and wasn't going to dump on Jimmy. Basically boiled down to McGuinness wanted total control over the setup and Rory disagreed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on August 04, 2017, 08:17:42 AM
Declan Bonner will bring a level headedness to the whole set up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PW Nally on August 04, 2017, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 03, 2017, 11:26:15 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 03, 2017, 04:53:32 PM
Kevin Cassidy doesnt mess about in his GL article today. Said McGuinness would never have won the AI without Rory.

Kevin's view would be, understandably, jaundiced by his own treatment by McGuinness. Did anyone hear Rory's interview on Newstalk? Didn't give away a whole pile and wasn't going to dump on Jimmy. Basically boiled down to McGuinness wanted total control over the setup and Rory disagreed.
Rory lives and works in Killybegs, only one winner if he takes on the messiah Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on August 04, 2017, 03:18:41 PM
It must be a terrible thing coming in after a big fish or legendary figure. Everyone is waiting for your fall half are trying to assist it and when it fails in general people think ye didn't have a clue as if ye were on some ego driven crusade.  Cruel luck befalls the follower. You would have to feel sorry for them. Life not fair.

Possible Examples: Mickey Moran, Paul grimly, Chris Evans, RG, jack o Connor. Gordon brown, biffo, Arlene and Michelle, David moyes,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on August 05, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news
Pure lack of ambition from the Sligo county board by keeping Carew on.

Absolutely. Saves them the job of looking for a manager so that's why they stuck with him. That's the absolute truth, you couldn't make it up. I'm very disappointed because for the first time in a while we have some good young players and could be a semi decent side with good management. This man is a pure clown who has no track record and is mainly interested in going on the beer.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2017, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news
Pure lack of ambition from the Sligo county board by keeping Carew on.

Absolutely. Saves them the job of looking for a manager so that's why they stuck with him. That's the absolute truth, you couldn't make it up. I'm very disappointed because for the first time in a while we have some good young players and could be a semi decent side with good management. This man is a pure clown who has no track record and is mainly interested in going on the beer.

Carew is a bluffer as far as I can tell. He hasn't brought sligo on one iota and I'm sure he is costing a fair bit of money. Bizarre they are keeping him on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 05, 2017, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news
Pure lack of ambition from the Sligo county board by keeping Carew on.

Absolutely. Saves them the job of looking for a manager so that's why they stuck with him. That's the absolute truth, you couldn't make it up. I'm very disappointed because for the first time in a while we have some good young players and could be a semi decent side with good management. This man is a pure clown who has no track record and is mainly interested in going on the beer.

This post should be taken down. As usual Magpie has taken it two steps too far into personal abuse.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 06:36:51 PM
And if the road for Malachy......monaghan at end of the road......mcgeeney could well go to. Though it is handy money....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 05, 2017, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 05, 2017, 12:51:57 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 05, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2017, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 03, 2017, 12:42:16 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2017, 10:48:14 PM
Carew staying on
bad news for Sligo
terrible news
Pure lack of ambition from the Sligo county board by keeping Carew on.

Absolutely. Saves them the job of looking for a manager so that's why they stuck with him. That's the absolute truth, you couldn't make it up. I'm very disappointed because for the first time in a while we have some good young players and could be a semi decent side with good management. This man is a pure clown who has no track record and is mainly interested in going on the beer.

Carew is a bluffer as far as I can tell. He hasn't brought sligo on one iota and I'm sure he is costing a fair bit of money. Bizarre they are keeping him on.

Disgusted at Sligo county board. A lazy, unambitious decision to keep Cardw. Sligo is at a cross roads as we have a big group of young players ready to make step up and we need a man who knows them to bring them through.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on August 07, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Strong word O Rourke has stood down this evening from Monaghan. Be superb fit for a few counties at the moment
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 08:47:59 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 07, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Strong word O Rourke has stood down this evening from Monaghan. Be superb fit for a few counties at the moment

Perfect for Derry.

They have the players to make the last eight if everyone commits, they've been doing well at underage recently and are starting from a low base in Div 3 of now. They also have very good defenders and plenty of size in the squad so they should fit in well with the style of football he plays.

Do the Derry county board have that kind of ambition though?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:54:49 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 07, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Strong word O Rourke has stood down this evening from Monaghan. Be superb fit for a few counties at the moment

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he took a year or two as a break from intercounty management.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 08, 2017, 12:12:33 AM
O'Rourke will be highly sought after. His job done in Monaghan was top drawer. Donegal or Derry?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Bearded One on August 08, 2017, 12:34:12 AM
Derry a done deal, I believe.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 23, 2017, 09:09:20 PM
Banty gone from Wexford after just one season.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2017, 10:05:55 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 23, 2017, 09:09:20 PM
Banty gone from Wexford after just one season.
Not surprised.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 23, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.

If he gets one of those jobs, I believe that would be his 4th county, level with Micko.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 23, 2017, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 23, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.

If he gets one of those jobs, I believe that would be his 4th county, level with Micko.


John Maughan managed four counties, two successfully and two less so....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 23, 2017, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 23, 2017, 10:56:05 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 23, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.

If he gets one of those jobs, I believe that would be his 4th county, level with Micko.


John Maughan managed four counties, two successfully and two less so....

He managed two counties, while managing to wreck two others.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PW Nally on August 23, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 23, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.

If he gets one of those jobs, I believe that would be his 4th county, level with Micko.
Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Micklow & Clare is 5.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 23, 2017, 11:20:32 PM
Quote from: PW Nally on August 23, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 23, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.

If he gets one of those jobs, I believe that would be his 4th county, level with Micko.
Kerry, Kildare, Laois, Micklow & Clare is 5.

Micklow. Love it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on August 24, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Banty deserves another crack at Monaghan. If o rourke takes a break.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 24, 2017, 10:05:23 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 24, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Banty deserves another crack at Monaghan. If o rourke takes a break.

Rumours that Meath are ready to jettison McEntee if they can agree terms with Bant
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Bart McQueen on August 24, 2017, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 24, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Banty deserves another crack at Monaghan. If o rourke takes a break.

Will he revert Conor McManus to wing back too
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 24, 2017, 12:56:20 PM
New Cork manager

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0824/899678-ronan-mccarthy-named-new-cork-football-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 23, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM
Banty heading home 4 counties interested,Derry,Fermanagh,Donegal,Antrim.

If he gets one of those jobs, I believe that would be his 4th county, level with Micko.
Don't forget John Maughan: Clare, Mayo x2, Fermanagh and Roscommon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derry Optimist on August 24, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
Mickey Moran was a much - travelled Manager/coach also.He was  involved with Derry on three separate occasions(manager and coach) as well as managing Donegal,Sligo,Mayo and Leitrim
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrhardyannual on August 24, 2017, 08:10:10 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 24, 2017, 12:56:20 PM
New Cork manager

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0824/899678-ronan-mccarthy-named-new-cork-football-manager/
Two Hands theory on Frankie just got shot down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 26, 2017, 04:51:05 PM
I was listening to Banty on the radio before the match today. He thought Kerry would steamroll Mayo. The man has not got a clue about football and any county that would give him a job after his Wexford gig would be mental.......will prob get one though
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrhardyannual on August 27, 2017, 12:19:39 AM
Managers are always one poor result away from being demonised. All the received wisdom prior to today's game was that Fitzmaurice was tactically miles ahead of Rochford and a one of the great innovators in the game. Now he'll be lucky to keep the job. As the Yank said "Go figure"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 27, 2017, 05:06:16 PM
Eamon fits and mickey could be added to the list
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 08:05:54 AM
Banty on short list for Donegal??? Per RTÉ sport this morning.
Also hear Johneen Evans for Wicklow.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on August 29, 2017, 08:45:58 AM

Banty probably phoned RTE
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 29, 2017, 11:51:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 08:05:54 AM
Banty on short list for Donegal??? Per RTÉ sport this morning.
Also hear Johneen Evans for Wicklow.

If he goes from Div 1 to Div 4 in just one season it will be a great achievement. I don't see too many Donegal natives queuing up for that job so he must have a good chance.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 29, 2017, 11:52:44 AM
John Sugrue from Renard looks to be the next man to get the poison chalice in Laois.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 29, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Nobody wants our poison chalice. I'm glad he didn't get it though. I haven't forgiven him for Finbar Cullen
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 29, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
Send Banty to manage Dublin, it would even the whole thing up
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on August 29, 2017, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 29, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
Send Banty to manage Dublin, it would even the whole thing up

See he's in for Donegal job. The gap in Ulster will only become a chasm now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 29, 2017, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 29, 2017, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Nobody wants our poison chalice. I'm glad he didn't get it though. I haven't forgiven him for Finbar Cullen
We'll let ye have Carew if ye're desperate interested.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on August 29, 2017, 02:16:10 PM
Declan Bonner favourite for Donegal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Did they not think to ask anyone their neighbors in Athlone about how he did? He was ran from Clann. Not a good sign for Offaly that they were going after him in the first place, an even worse one that he thinks he's better than the job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 29, 2017, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Did they not think to ask anyone their neighbors in Athlone about how he did? He was ran from Clann. Not a good sign for Offaly that they were going after him in the first place, an even worse one that he thinks he's better than the job.

I think we're gone beyond 'good signs' at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 03:45:28 PM
Time ye amalgamated with ye're lovely neighbours Laois and Westmeath ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on August 29, 2017, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Did they not think to ask anyone their neighbors in Athlone about how he did? He was ran from Clann. Not a good sign for Offaly that they were going after him in the first place, an even worse one that he thinks he's better than the job.

A complete spoofer, Hadnt a clue and all he was down for was the few pound and a nice bit at that. Ye got lucky AZ. Great to see John Evans back a top manager who is a great appointment for Wicklow who need to get right underage structures in place. The right man for it
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 29, 2017, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 29, 2017, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Did they not think to ask anyone their neighbors in Athlone about how he did? He was ran from Clann. Not a good sign for Offaly that they were going after him in the first place, an even worse one that he thinks he's better than the job.

A complete spoofer, Hadnt a clue and all he was down for was the few pound and a nice bit at that. Ye got lucky AZ. Great to see John Evans back a top manager who is a great appointment for Wicklow who need to get right underage structures in place. The right man for it

Did he not win a county final with Clan na Gael? Should have won AI club title with Ballymun but some strange reason left John Small on bench for the season
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 29, 2017, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 29, 2017, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Did they not think to ask anyone their neighbors in Athlone about how he did? He was ran from Clann. Not a good sign for Offaly that they were going after him in the first place, an even worse one that he thinks he's better than the job.

A complete spoofer, Hadnt a clue and all he was down for was the few pound and a nice bit at that. Ye got lucky AZ. Great to see John Evans back a top manager who is a great appointment for Wicklow who need to get right underage structures in place. The right man for it

Did he not win a county final with Clan na Gael? Should have won AI club title with Ballymun but some strange reason left John Small on bench for the season

Clann were quite poor that year, and benefited greatly from the new championship structure that allowed them to finish fourth in a group of six and make the knockout stages with a losing record. They also just beat Brigids with Brigids down to 14 men for most of the match. Clann won the county title in spite of Curran and had they not he was going to be out the door.

Because he did they were stuck with him - the next season Clann ended up being relegated from that group of six and Curran being fired before the league season even finished.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on August 29, 2017, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 04:00:59 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 29, 2017, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 29, 2017, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2017, 11:53:57 AM
I see Paul Curran turned ye down AZ.

Did they not think to ask anyone their neighbors in Athlone about how he did? He was ran from Clann. Not a good sign for Offaly that they were going after him in the first place, an even worse one that he thinks he's better than the job.

A complete spoofer, Hadnt a clue and all he was down for was the few pound and a nice bit at that. Ye got lucky AZ. Great to see John Evans back a top manager who is a great appointment for Wicklow who need to get right underage structures in place. The right man for it

Did he not win a county final with Clan na Gael? Should have won AI club title with Ballymun but some strange reason left John Small on bench for the season

Clann were quite poor that year, and benefited greatly from the new championship structure that allowed them to finish fourth in a group of six and make the knockout stages with a losing record. They also just Brigids with Brigids down to 14 men for most of the match. Clann won the county title in spite of Curran and had they not he was going to be out the door.

Because he did they were stuck with him - the next season Clann ended up being relegated from that group of six the next year and Curran being fired before the league season even finished.

We actually won the league after we give him the bullet. ;D ;D Look ye can make youre own minds up on him but from having watched him in action for two years he was very poor. We had better managers before and after him who dont require 200 euro for an hour training session
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on August 29, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Will be a disaster for Donegal going with Banty. Brings a team of mercenaries with have and is hardly likely to have the future of Donegal football in his heart! Young lads that need nurturing /coaching for 2/3 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 29, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 29, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Will be a disaster for Donegal going with Banty. Brings a team of mercenaries with have and is hardly likely to have the future of Donegal football in his heart! Young lads that need nurturing /coaching for 2/3 years.

But at least we can be guaranteed that they will all empty the tank.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 31, 2017, 09:38:34 PM
Damian McErlain getting promoted

http://derrygaa.ie/2017/08/derry-gaa-statement-senior-football-management/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 01, 2017, 12:34:46 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 29, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Will be a disaster for Donegal going with Banty. Brings a team of mercenaries with have and is hardly likely to have the future of Donegal football in his heart! Young lads that need nurturing /coaching for 2/3 years.

He expressed interest in the gig but he'll hardly get it?! He's just sniffin a few bob. He's the last type of spoofer Donegal need right now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on September 01, 2017, 02:03:15 PM
He's one of five up for the Donegal job.

Banty
Declan Bonner
Gary McDaid
Cathal Corey
Sean Paul Barrett

Three Donegal, two outsiders
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on September 01, 2017, 02:11:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 01, 2017, 02:03:15 PM
He's one of five up for the Donegal job.

Banty
Declan Bonner
Gary McDaid
Cathal Corey
Sean Paul Barrett

Three Donegal, two outsiders

Was Bonner not there for a short spell before? I know he was over the minors or U21 recently, but was he not over the seniors a few years before McGuinness?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on September 01, 2017, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on September 01, 2017, 02:11:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 01, 2017, 02:03:15 PM
He's one of five up for the Donegal job.

Banty
Declan Bonner
Gary McDaid
Cathal Corey
Sean Paul Barrett

Three Donegal, two outsiders

Was Bonner not there for a short spell before? I know he was over the minors or U21 recently, but was he not over the seniors a few years before McGuinness?

Bonner was in there from about 97-00.

He was in charge the day Brolly scored the injury time goal to win the 98 Ulster Final.

After that, he fell victim to the rise of the Gallagher cousins and Fermanagh.

He ran for the job again in 08 as a joint team with Charlie Mulgrew. In yet another example of the ridiculous incompetence and politics that characterizes (or at least used to!) Donegal county board activities, they offered the job both to Bonner-Mulgrew AND John Joe Doherty.

Doherty prevailed in the fiasco, and a fairly talented squad plumbed the depths, laying the ground for them to finally take McGuinness seriously.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:20:49 PM
How proactive are counties in fast-tracking former players into management. Donegal have had some quality players retire in the past two years. Are they being fast tracked into assisting with county underage teams or academies so that what they have a ready pathway to senior management?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 06, 2017, 01:31:19 PM
Seems Rory to Fermanagh may have legs
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Real Talk on September 06, 2017, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 29, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 29, 2017, 04:49:08 PM
Will be a disaster for Donegal going with Banty. Brings a team of mercenaries with have and is hardly likely to have the future of Donegal football in his heart! Young lads that need nurturing /coaching for 2/3 years.

But at least we can be guaranteed that they will all empty the tank.

And Banty will empty the 'bank' !!!!!!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on September 06, 2017, 09:04:02 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:20:49 PM
How proactive are counties in fast-tracking former players into management. Donegal have had some quality players retire in the past two years. Are they being fast tracked into assisting with county underage teams or academies so that what they have a ready pathway to senior management?

No idea.

I'd imagine someone like Lacey would be a good choice.

I think Michael Murphy is taking Letterkenny IT this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mcklatchee on September 06, 2017, 09:27:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 06, 2017, 09:04:02 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 02, 2017, 01:20:49 PM
How proactive are counties in fast-tracking former players into management. Donegal have had some quality players retire in the past two years. Are they being fast tracked into assisting with county underage teams or academies so that what they have a ready pathway to senior management?

No idea.

I'd imagine someone like Lacey would be a good choice.

I think Michael Murphy is taking Letterkenny IT this year.

Fast tracking proven managers would be a better idea. My own county has a litany of former players hanging around minor, U21, academy and senior county teams. There is a mix of no managerial record and bad managerial records in that group. Let them all earn their stripes with clubs and fast track those with successful records would be a better idea than giving people managerial posts based upon playing careers
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Woke up this great news this morning, wrote this on Hoganstand,

Serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,

The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.

Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.

No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.

For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...

If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.

Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options

Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.

No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 07, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Huge loss my arse. Pity it didn't happen straight after the defeat in Navan. Next appointment is crucial as there's some potential there if under the right guidance, and hopefully our habit of persisting with players proven not to be up to it can be eradicated.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 07, 2017, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Woke up this great news this morning, wrote this on Hoganstand,

Serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,

The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.

Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.

No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.

For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...

If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.

Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options

Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.

No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?
Yes that is odd. Not too much to argue with the rest of that really.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 07, 2017, 12:10:04 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 07, 2017, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Woke up this great news this morning, wrote this on Hoganstand,

Serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,

The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.

Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.

No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.

For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...

If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.

Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options

Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.

No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?
Yes that is odd. Not too much to argue with the rest of that really.

Agree entirely Sligonian and OMS. And as Sligonian has alluded to the circumstances around his removal are the most encouraging thing about it. County board really need to step up now or they should be removed en masse in December. This is a good day.....most positive I've felt about Sligo GAA in a long time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 07, 2017, 01:34:54 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Woke up this great news this morning, wrote this on Hoganstand,

Serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,

The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.

Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.

No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.

For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...

If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.

Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options

Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.

No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?

Players should have no input in choosing their boss.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 07, 2017, 02:01:03 PM
The Oracle  has spoken.

Anyway Sligo bucks I presume the new job is a smoke screen?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 07, 2017, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 07, 2017, 01:34:54 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Woke up this great news this morning, wrote this on Hoganstand,

Serious questions need to be asked about our County Board and the shambles they are, they seem to not care about results or even understand progression, they seem to have a inability for proactive action, look even losing London they wouldnt get rid of Walsh now this, Carew should never have been reappointed and its thanks to the players that this has happened, make no mistake,

The players need to dictate who the next manager is simple as that, for me Sligo GAA is an easy sell, look at our u21s, u18s results recently and i seen our u15s look very strong too, never in my lifetime have 3 strong underage groups look like coming through together, add to that the younger senior players who for me are serious players, and you have a good mix, with the older lads but they are past there peak and should be used for impact, there will be a year of transition in 2018 but then we should have more players coming through.

Anyone could see against Antrim and Meath, the players weren't playing for Carew, the system was completely negating our best players attributes especially going forward, playing players out of position, and was just minimizing the margin of defeat.

No manager should be writing an article in our local papers either going forward.

For me it needs to be 3 year plan at minimum because i felt last yr our players are a bit behind in conditioning compared to Mayo, etc...

If I were the players i would approach managers because i dont trust the county board, you cant have the likes of that management committee deciding our faith, they rarely make a correct call, too much politics involved and a lack of football knowledge. They cant seem to spot a bluffer when they see one, walsh and carew had no track record, we now need to approach managers with intercounty/club winning trophy track records.

Rory Gallagher has to be sounded out, Tony McEntee has to be too, hes a selector with Mayo last 2 yrs, seeing there set up and conditioning compared to ours must be a huge insight, he won 2 all ireland clubs as manager 4 as player, 1 AI senior as player, selectors will be Sligo based as usual i expect. Rooney, O Hara etc.. all good options

Lastly our County Board need to look into the mirror, no senior manager, no u20, no u17 manager yet, this is all there own doing, no excuse and not good enough, all should of been sorted by now, get it done with the input of the players.

No press release from Sligo GAA, shouldn't this news come from them first and not leaked to the media?

Players should have no input in choosing their boss.

The suggestion above is extreme but I totally understand the sentiment. The ineptitude of our county board in these matters is staggering. Remember - the clubs or county committee were not consulted about the reappointment of Carew. Only reason he's gone is because so many player were not making themselves available for next year. I think the players representatives should make a few recommendations to the county board and let them make sure to put a proper manager with a good track record in place.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 07, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2017, 02:01:03 PM
The Oracle  has spoken.

Anyway Sligo bucks I presume the new job is a smoke screen?

If you're directing this at Sligonian I think your sarcasm is misplaced. Not many around Sligo know or understand the scene much better than him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 07, 2017, 02:16:52 PM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on September 07, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=275424

Huge loss for Sligo.

Eamon O'Hara or Gerry McGowan for the job?
Huge loss? Kept on as long as he was probably has done untold damage to the Sligo seniors.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 07, 2017, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 07, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 07, 2017, 02:01:03 PM
The Oracle  has spoken.

Anyway Sligo bucks I presume the new job is a smoke screen?

If you're directing this at Sligonian I think your sarcasm is misplaced. Not many around Sligo know or understand the scene much better than him.
At Bomber for his players should have no say.. I didn't want to go quoting big long posts.
Sligonian us one of the Board's better contributors as indeed is Owenmoresider.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:03:25 PM
Rossfan what did you mean by your smokescreen reference?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 07, 2017, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:03:25 PM
Rossfan what did you mean by your smokescreen reference?
Presumably that the work thing is a convenient face-saving excuse for being sent on his way.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 07, 2017, 03:15:22 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 07, 2017, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:03:25 PM
Rossfan what did you mean by your smokescreen reference?
Presumably that the work thing is a convenient face-saving excuse for being sent on his way.
Exactly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
For me Horan, Gallagher, McGrath but i think Tony McEntee needs to be looked at, won 2 club All Irelands as manager of Crossmaglen and now has been involved as Mayo selector last 2 yrs, i want whats been implemented in Mayo last few yrs implemented in Sligo, there conditioned to a different level and that's a easy gain as any player can be conditioned to the max.

Its too early for O Hara, him and Rooney as selector for me, Rooney I think needs to be involved to help bring in the younger players, Rooney was already involved as selector and was putting things in place.

Taylor would not be a good appointment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 07, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
For me Horan, Gallagher, McGrath but i think Tony McEntee needs to be looked at, won 2 club All Irelands as manager of Crossmaglen and now has been involved as Mayo selector last 2 yrs, i want whats been implemented in Mayo last few yrs implemented in Sligo, there conditioned to a different level and that's a easy gain as any player can be conditioned to the max.

Its too early for O Hara, him and Rooney as selector for me, Rooney I think needs to be involved to help bring in the younger players, Rooney was already involved as selector and was putting things in place.

Taylor would not be a good appointment.

I don't think ye have a chance of getting many of the people you named.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 07, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM

Taylor would not be a good appointment.
Why? he was the U21 manager only natural he would get promoted up to the senior gig now and can't do any worse than than last manager.

Sligo need someone on their next management that has a clue on tackling and ability to make them more solid defensively.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: redhandefender on September 07, 2017, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 07, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
For me Horan, Gallagher, McGrath but i think Tony McEntee needs to be looked at, won 2 club All Irelands as manager of Crossmaglen and now has been involved as Mayo selector last 2 yrs, i want whats been implemented in Mayo last few yrs implemented in Sligo, there conditioned to a different level and that's a easy gain as any player can be conditioned to the max.

Its too early for O Hara, him and Rooney as selector for me, Rooney I think needs to be involved to help bring in the younger players, Rooney was already involved as selector and was putting things in place.

Taylor would not be a good appointment.

I don't think ye have a chance of getting Dany of the people you named.

I agree for once, pipe dreams!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 07, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM

Taylor would not be a good appointment.
Why? he was the U21 manager only natural he would get promoted up to the senior gig now and can't do any worse than than last manager.

Sligo need someone on their next management that has a clue on tackling and ability to make them more solid defensively.
I don't really want to get into this but Taylor is not up to it from what I know and wont get it anyway so no point talking about him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 08, 2017, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on September 07, 2017, 04:04:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 07, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
For me Horan, Gallagher, McGrath but i think Tony McEntee needs to be looked at, won 2 club All Irelands as manager of Crossmaglen and now has been involved as Mayo selector last 2 yrs, i want whats been implemented in Mayo last few yrs implemented in Sligo, there conditioned to a different level and that's a easy gain as any player can be conditioned to the max.

Its too early for O Hara, him and Rooney as selector for me, Rooney I think needs to be involved to help bring in the younger players, Rooney was already involved as selector and was putting things in place.

Taylor would not be a good appointment.

I don't think ye have a chance of getting Dany of the people you named.

I agree for once, pipe dreams!

Why wouldn't we? McGrath managed Fermanagh and it looks like Gallagher is being lined up to go there. I wouldn't say they're much better than us, if at all, and I don't believe they've the underage players coming through that we have. Banty, who some have mentioned, went to manage a Div4 team last year at the other end of the country.

We need a good manager to see how good we can be. Very difficult to say how far we can go but for the first time in a long while there's actually some potential in Sligo. We can't waste it by putting another clown in place. Our players deserve as good as we can get. They work tremendously hard with little reward. I find the sneering attitude of fellow gaels like you pair a bit disgusting.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
For me Horan, Gallagher, McGrath but i think Tony McEntee needs to be looked at, won 2 club All Irelands as manager of Crossmaglen and now has been involved as Mayo selector last 2 yrs, i want whats been implemented in Mayo last few yrs implemented in Sligo, there conditioned to a different level and that's a easy gain as any player can be conditioned to the max.

Its too early for O Hara, him and Rooney as selector for me, Rooney I think needs to be involved to help bring in the younger players, Rooney was already involved as selector and was putting things in place.

Taylor would not be a good appointment.


Tony McEntee has SFA to do with mayo's conditioning.... Sligo would be mad to even try getting him, ask anyone in brigids Dublin what he is like........... and ye dont have the owner of Coppers to tank up his considerable expenses
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 08, 2017, 11:34:48 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 07, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on September 07, 2017, 03:18:40 PM
Next appointment is crucial.  Is Eamon O'Hara a possibility?

Other names that spring to mind are Pete Mcgrath, Rory Gallagher, James Horan..

No comment or who's good or bad, just throwing out some names for discussion.

Rooney and Taylor would be very long odds imo
For me Horan, Gallagher, McGrath but i think Tony McEntee needs to be looked at, won 2 club All Irelands as manager of Crossmaglen and now has been involved as Mayo selector last 2 yrs, i want whats been implemented in Mayo last few yrs implemented in Sligo, there conditioned to a different level and that's a easy gain as any player can be conditioned to the max.

Its too early for O Hara, him and Rooney as selector for me, Rooney I think needs to be involved to help bring in the younger players, Rooney was already involved as selector and was putting things in place.

Taylor would not be a good appointment.


Tony McEntee has SFA to do with mayo's conditioning.... Sligo would be mad to even try getting him, ask anyone in brigids Dublin what he is like........... and ye dont have the owner of Coppers to tank up his considerable expenses
Ok orchard park thanks for the heads up, just looking for GAA men with experience of top class intercounty set ups,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
i hear you....

the one i think ye should chase is Ryan Porter, has to be browned off at this stage with his Monaghan no 2 role.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Man Marker on September 08, 2017, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
i hear you....

the one i think ye should chase is Ryan Porter, has to be browned off at this stage with his Monaghan no 2 role.

and remind me again what All Irelands has he won as a manager, or as a number 2 what All Irelands has he been involved with?

I am not knocking Porter, he has a good reputation, but Mc Entee has walked the walk. he must be browned off with No 2 role also?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 02:16:33 PM
more of a no 3 in mayo, Donie Buckley much more senior in the pecking order
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 08, 2017, 02:31:30 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 02:16:33 PM
more of a no 3 in mayo, Donie Buckley much more senior in the pecking order

Talking of expenses..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
would mayo be the 2nd best team in ireland over the last 7 seasons without Donie Buckley.........

and no he wouldn't come cheap at all but has moved them on from the levels of the rest of Connacht teams
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 08, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
would mayo be the 2nd best team in ireland over the last 7 seasons without Donie Buckley.........

and no he wouldn't come cheap at all but has moved them on from the levels of the rest of Connacht teams

Some of their tackling this season has been completely awful. Whatever he used to bring to Mayo it certainly doesn't seem to be the same as it once was. The money Mayo spend on 'mileage' for Buckley and McEntee combined is in no way worth it IMHO.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
Donie Buckley offers much much more than tackling coaching....... a very simplistic one dimensional view of probably the most innovative intercounty gaelic football coach of the last 10 years
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 08, 2017, 03:23:18 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
Donie Buckley offers much much more than tackling coaching....... a very simplistic one dimensional view of probably the most innovative intercounty gaelic football coach of the last 10 years

Oh come off it. Most innovative coach in a decade, the lad who did the sum total of feck all as manager in Clare and whose claim to fame is being a tackling coach on a team that's never won the AI. Mayo made AI finals before him, and they'll probably make them after him too. Cian O'Neill is probably just as important as a coach for Mayo and he at least has done something worthwhile as an IC manager.

Good coach, but more than charges the going rate for his services.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 03:30:56 PM
ok your labelling him a tackling coach.... i disagree .

has your club ever used him ?? have you ever watched him take a session, ever trained under him.........

he isnt an out and out manager and his brief clare spell proved it

Throw me back a more innovative coach over the last 10 years

having seen first hand what he achieved with lesser light footballers in Limerick under Mickey Ned,  he doesnt need my endorsement or your criticism to know how good he is

Donie wont be managing anyone in any event so I wont derail the Original topic any further....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 08, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 03:30:56 PM
ok your labelling him a tackling coach.... i disagree .

has your club ever used him ?? have you ever watched him take a session, ever trained under him.........

he isnt an out and out manager and his brief clare spell proved it

Throw me back a more innovative coach over the last 10 years

having seen first hand what he achieved with lesser light footballers in Limerick under Mickey Ned,  he doesnt need my endorsement or your criticism to know how good he is

Donie wont be managing anyone in any event so I wont derail the Original topic any further....

Done a few club sessions under him a few years back and i have yet to see better taught he was excellent. Also dont thinjk Mayo would be where they have been the last few years without him. This current Mayo team are now under their 3rd different management team but all have kept him on as trainer. that says something in itself
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on September 08, 2017, 04:03:38 PM
FAO Sligonian ... As a sidenote to Carew going, what did Sligo folk think of Roli Sweeney. He is a man well thought of in Kildare?
In terms of a lad stepping up from a top class coach would Mick Bohan be worth a call?

An old head like McGrath along with O'Hara could work for Sligo.
It might be a big leap but you get the feeling Karl Lacey would step up alongside McEntee you would have s v dynamic team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on September 08, 2017, 04:17:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 08, 2017, 02:31:30 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 08, 2017, 02:16:33 PM
more of a no 3 in mayo, Donie Buckley much more senior in the pecking order

Talking of expenses..

Whatever he gets, he is well entitled to it.
A huge value add.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 09, 2017, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on September 08, 2017, 04:03:38 PM
FAO Sligonian ... As a sidenote to Carew going, what did Sligo folk think of Roli Sweeney. He is a man well thought of in Kildare?
In terms of a lad stepping up from a top class coach would Mick Bohan be worth a call?

An old head like McGrath along with O'Hara could work for Sligo.
It might be a big leap but you get the feeling Karl Lacey would step up alongside McEntee you would have s v dynamic team.

Mick Bohan's an excellent coach alright. I've studied a lot of his methods. He gave some workshops in Sligo last year which I couldn't attend but were excellent.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: giveballaghback on September 09, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
Fergal O Donnell has been offered the Sligo job, should be interesting if he takes it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 09, 2017, 07:48:32 PM
Interesting...............
Before last September he wouldn't look at another County.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 09, 2017, 08:25:04 PM
I'd hope he'd turn it down because he'd do a much better job than any of the recent occupants of that post.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 09, 2017, 08:51:56 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 09, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
Fergal O Donnell has been offered the Sligo job, should be interesting if he takes it.
Will be even more interesting if he's the Sligo manager and Sligo draw Roscommon in next years Connacht championship.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 10, 2017, 12:55:41 AM

How come Holmes and Connelly are not mentioned in this merry-go-round? Surely a top option for Sligo gig.

Mayo players were destroyed for lacking confidence in them but we've had one Sligo poster here wanting Sligo players have an input in next managerial appointment.

Holmes and Connelly have a good cv, and surprising they have not been even in the discussion for other counties. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 10, 2017, 01:44:35 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 10, 2017, 12:55:41 AM

How come Holmes and Connelly are not mentioned in this merry-go-round? Surely a top option for Sligo gig.

Mayo players were destroyed for lacking confidence in them but we've had one Sligo poster here wanting Sligo players have an input in next managerial appointment.

Holmes and Connelly have a good cv, and surprising they have not been even in the discussion for other counties. Makes no sense.

They were still better than Rochford however much you want to convince yourself they weren't.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 10, 2017, 02:19:07 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 10, 2017, 01:44:35 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 10, 2017, 12:55:41 AM

How come Holmes and Connelly are not mentioned in this merry-go-round? Surely a top option for Sligo gig.

Mayo players were destroyed for lacking confidence in them but we've had one Sligo poster here wanting Sligo players have an input in next managerial appointment.

Holmes and Connelly have a good cv, and surprising they have not been even in the discussion for other counties. Makes no sense.

They were still better than Rochford however much you want to convince yourself they weren't.

Moi? Not trying to convince myself of anything. Just wondering why other counties have not snapped them up. Then there was Tommy Jordan that won a club AI but it all turned sour in Sligo.
Still, I don't get how you can say that H&C were 'better' than Rochford? Better how?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: maigheo on September 10, 2017, 03:47:45 AM
Jeez Syf,you have really gone off the rails if you think H and C were better than Rochford.Constantly repeating falsehoods will never make them true
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: maigheo on September 10, 2017, 03:50:05 AM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 09, 2017, 06:36:12 PM
Fergal O Donnell has been offered the Sligo job, should be interesting if he takes it.
Well at least they would know how to play with 15 men behind the ball while playing with a gale force wind
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on September 08, 2017, 04:03:38 PM
FAO Sligonian ... As a sidenote to Carew going, what did Sligo folk think of Roli Sweeney. He is a man well thought of in Kildare?
In terms of a lad stepping up from a top class coach would Mick Bohan be worth a call?

An old head like McGrath along with O'Hara could work for Sligo.
It might be a big leap but you get the feeling Karl Lacey would step up alongside McEntee you would have s v dynamic team.
Ronan Sweeney was generally well thought, he was selector and forwards coach, we certainly moved the ball better going forward when he was there,

I am open to anyone, but problem is the idea of an interview is to get the best man possible and our 5 man committee don't know much about football and for us Carew was a bluffer and got through this process already and even got reappointed. Its hard to be optimistic but we could get lucky.

Some good suggestions there. Interesting that some are Fergal O Donnell has got it, i doubt our county board have been that proactive, i wouldnt mind him, he was better than Walsh and he would love a crack at mcstay id say.

Holmes and Connelly for me I dont really know what happened with Mayo but that Mayo team in the 2015 Connacht final was the best prepared team I've ever seen in July simple as that. Id take that.

Again the interview process should get the best candidate and any worries alleviated.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
I'm not too bothered about Carew going, I wouldn't be anywhere near as critical as some on here about his tenure - a Connacht final and retaining Div 3 status in a major transitional period for us is not bad all considered though the collapses against Mayo in 2015 and Roscommon in 2016 were humiliating at the time. I know our club men only had good things to say about him and that it was the most professional set up they had been involved with in Sligo.

What happens from here is now what matters, we're still in a major transitional stage and have quite a promising batch coming through. There are no real candidates in the county, O'Hara looks like the best choice internally but I'd have sever reservations about him being the main man.

If we can stay in Div 3 over the next two years and manage not to humiliate ourselves then we'll hopefully be able to aim a little higher when when the bulk of these young members currently on the panel have more experience and bulked up physically.

A manager can only deal with the hand he is dealt with, it's good to see the performances of our underage teams in recent years but having gone to see a few of the club championship games in recent weeks, it really would wipe any enthusiasm about Sligo football away from you. There are clubs with big picks currently there like Harps, Johns, Marys, Coolera/Strandhill and Molaise Gaels that should certainly be able to challenge for club honours in Connacht. We are absolutely miles behind other counties in terms of tactical and physical conditioning of our club footballers. The enormity of the step up between club football in Sligo and intercounty football is the biggest problem facing Sligo football right now.

Without meaning to be disrespectful of certain players but there are a few lads on the panel now who have been involved for the last 4/5 years who are nowhere near the level but the sad thing is they're probably the best of what's out there. The top senior club sides in Sligo are probably at about the same level as the top club junior sides in Galway and Mayo. Does any club in Sligo have their own proper S&C base?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
I'm not too bothered about Carew going, I wouldn't be anywhere near as critical as some on here about his tenure - a Connacht final and retaining Div 3 status in a major transitional period for us is not bad all considered though the collapses against Mayo in 2015 and Roscommon in 2016 were humiliating at the time. I know our club men only had good things to say about him and that it was the most professional set up they had been involved with in Sligo.

What happens from here is now what matters, we're still in a major transitional stage and have quite a promising batch coming through. There are no real candidates in the county, O'Hara looks like the best choice internally but I'd have sever reservations about him being the main man.

If we can stay in Div 3 over the next two years and manage not to humiliate ourselves then we'll hopefully be able to aim a little higher when when the bulk of these young members currently on the panel have more experience and bulked up physically.

A manager can only deal with the hand he is dealt with, it's good to see the performances of our underage teams in recent years but having gone to see a few of the club championship games in recent weeks, it really would wipe any enthusiasm about Sligo football away from you. There are clubs with big picks currently there like Harps, Johns, Marys, Coolera/Strandhill and Molaise Gaels that should certainly be able to challenge for club honours in Connacht. We are absolutely miles behind other counties in terms of tactical and physical conditioning of our club footballers. The enormity of the step up between club football in Sligo and intercounty football is the biggest problem facing Sligo football right now.

Without meaning to be disrespectful of certain players but there are a few lads on the panel now who have been involved for the last 4/5 years who are nowhere near the level but the sad thing is they're probably the best of what's out there. The top senior club sides in Sligo are probably at about the same level as the top club junior sides in Galway and Mayo. Does any club in Sligo have their own proper S&C base?

I heard the same regarding professional and all that, I was pretty heavily involved in the last 6 yrs at club level and with u21 county, etc.. this professional stuff gets bandied about alot, being professional is the easiest part of managing imo anybody can do it, from planning training sessions, food, gameday bus timings, water, etc... but to be honest Ive seen very little little evidence of Managers who are good organisers/professional, good man managers, good tacticians before and ingames, etc.. ie the full package, Carew was not good man manager, he treated players very differently where committment was concerned, some players could come in half way through the year, others couldnt take a holiday early season, he was very poor on player positioning, tactics and gameplans, Its alright getting the admin stuff right and putting out cones etc.. but its even more important to get the other stuff right, 3 yrs he was there and the strength and conditioning of some players wasnt up to scratch imo, the 2015 collapse more should of been learned, he has to take responsibility for that,

I agree on O Hara, its too early but wonder why you have severe reservations?

Your absolutely spot on regards our club footballers and the physical conditioning. County board should be leading the way but our clubs are full of dinosaurs and poor coaches with no knowledge of any of this. Even our injury management seems to be so poor and rehab we seem to always get it wrong. We need a complete revamp of County Board but our clubs are too passive and dont seem to really care about the state of the game, some think its a nrs game and thats it, pats on the back all round.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
I'm not too bothered about Carew going, I wouldn't be anywhere near as critical as some on here about his tenure - a Connacht final and retaining Div 3 status in a major transitional period for us is not bad all considered though the collapses against Mayo in 2015 and Roscommon in 2016 were humiliating at the time. I know our club men only had good things to say about him and that it was the most professional set up they had been involved with in Sligo.

What happens from here is now what matters, we're still in a major transitional stage and have quite a promising batch coming through. There are no real candidates in the county, O'Hara looks like the best choice internally but I'd have sever reservations about him being the main man.

If we can stay in Div 3 over the next two years and manage not to humiliate ourselves then we'll hopefully be able to aim a little higher when when the bulk of these young members currently on the panel have more experience and bulked up physically.

A manager can only deal with the hand he is dealt with, it's good to see the performances of our underage teams in recent years but having gone to see a few of the club championship games in recent weeks, it really would wipe any enthusiasm about Sligo football away from you. There are clubs with big picks currently there like Harps, Johns, Marys, Coolera/Strandhill and Molaise Gaels that should certainly be able to challenge for club honours in Connacht. We are absolutely miles behind other counties in terms of tactical and physical conditioning of our club footballers. The enormity of the step up between club football in Sligo and intercounty football is the biggest problem facing Sligo football right now.

Without meaning to be disrespectful of certain players but there are a few lads on the panel now who have been involved for the last 4/5 years who are nowhere near the level but the sad thing is they're probably the best of what's out there. The top senior club sides in Sligo are probably at about the same level as the top club junior sides in Galway and Mayo. Does any club in Sligo have their own proper S&C base?

I heard the same regarding professional and all that, I was pretty heavily involved in the last 6 yrs at club level and with u21 county, etc.. this professional stuff gets bandied about alot, being professional is the easiest part of managing imo anybody can do it, from planning training sessions, food, gameday bus timings, water, etc... but to be honest Ive seen very little little evidence of Managers who are good organisers/professional, good man managers, good tacticians before and ingames, etc.. ie the full package, Carew was not good man manager, he treated players very differently where committment was concerned, some players could come in half way through the year, others couldnt take a holiday early season, he was very poor on player positioning, tactics and gameplans, Its alright getting the admin stuff right and putting out cones etc.. but its even more important to get the other stuff right, 3 yrs he was there and the strength and conditioning of some players wasnt up to scratch imo, the 2015 collapse more should of been learned, he has to take responsibility for that,

I agree on O Hara, its too early but wonder why you have severe reservations?

Your absolutely spot on regards our club footballers and the physical conditioning. County board should be leading the way but our clubs are full of dinosaurs and poor coaches with no knowledge of any of this. Even our injury management seems to be so poor and rehab we seem to always get it wrong. We need a complete revamp of County Board but our clubs are too passive and dont seem to really care about the state of the game, some think its a nrs game and thats it, pats on the back all round.

I think O'Hara needs another few years before he's ready.

Only so much blame can be placed on the county board. The facilities clubs have in Sligo are pretty much appalling. Apart from Tourlestrane and perhaps Bunninadden, there are so few well run clubs in Sligo. Look at the likes of Johns and Harps, big clubs with big picks and they're so far off the scene now. Curry are an absolute rabble now as well. West Sligo has been in a state for years. It's grand blaming the county board for everything but clubs have to get up and take action themselves.

I have a lot of relatives up North and the effort clubs go to in order to obtain good facilities and infrastructure is a great credit to them. It seems to be a real community effort there, with the exception of Tourlestrane there is a real lack of clubs driving the community and sparking involvement. I think there is a great urgency for clubs to take it on themselves to make things happen, rather than wait for the county board to sort things out.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
I'm not too bothered about Carew going, I wouldn't be anywhere near as critical as some on here about his tenure - a Connacht final and retaining Div 3 status in a major transitional period for us is not bad all considered though the collapses against Mayo in 2015 and Roscommon in 2016 were humiliating at the time. I know our club men only had good things to say about him and that it was the most professional set up they had been involved with in Sligo.

What happens from here is now what matters, we're still in a major transitional stage and have quite a promising batch coming through. There are no real candidates in the county, O'Hara looks like the best choice internally but I'd have sever reservations about him being the main man.

If we can stay in Div 3 over the next two years and manage not to humiliate ourselves then we'll hopefully be able to aim a little higher when when the bulk of these young members currently on the panel have more experience and bulked up physically.

A manager can only deal with the hand he is dealt with, it's good to see the performances of our underage teams in recent years but having gone to see a few of the club championship games in recent weeks, it really would wipe any enthusiasm about Sligo football away from you. There are clubs with big picks currently there like Harps, Johns, Marys, Coolera/Strandhill and Molaise Gaels that should certainly be able to challenge for club honours in Connacht. We are absolutely miles behind other counties in terms of tactical and physical conditioning of our club footballers. The enormity of the step up between club football in Sligo and intercounty football is the biggest problem facing Sligo football right now.

Without meaning to be disrespectful of certain players but there are a few lads on the panel now who have been involved for the last 4/5 years who are nowhere near the level but the sad thing is they're probably the best of what's out there. The top senior club sides in Sligo are probably at about the same level as the top club junior sides in Galway and Mayo. Does any club in Sligo have their own proper S&C base?

I heard the same regarding professional and all that, I was pretty heavily involved in the last 6 yrs at club level and with u21 county, etc.. this professional stuff gets bandied about alot, being professional is the easiest part of managing imo anybody can do it, from planning training sessions, food, gameday bus timings, water, etc... but to be honest Ive seen very little little evidence of Managers who are good organisers/professional, good man managers, good tacticians before and ingames, etc.. ie the full package, Carew was not good man manager, he treated players very differently where committment was concerned, some players could come in half way through the year, others couldnt take a holiday early season, he was very poor on player positioning, tactics and gameplans, Its alright getting the admin stuff right and putting out cones etc.. but its even more important to get the other stuff right, 3 yrs he was there and the strength and conditioning of some players wasnt up to scratch imo, the 2015 collapse more should of been learned, he has to take responsibility for that,

I agree on O Hara, its too early but wonder why you have severe reservations?

Your absolutely spot on regards our club footballers and the physical conditioning. County board should be leading the way but our clubs are full of dinosaurs and poor coaches with no knowledge of any of this. Even our injury management seems to be so poor and rehab we seem to always get it wrong. We need a complete revamp of County Board but our clubs are too passive and dont seem to really care about the state of the game, some think its a nrs game and thats it, pats on the back all round.

I think O'Hara needs another few years before he's ready.

Only so much blame can be placed on the county board. The facilities clubs have in Sligo are pretty much appalling. Apart from Tourlestrane and perhaps Bunninadden, there are so few well run clubs in Sligo. Look at the likes of Johns and Harps, big clubs with big picks and they're so far off the scene now. Curry are an absolute rabble now as well. West Sligo has been in a state for years. It's grand blaming the county board for everything but clubs have to get up and take action themselves.

I have a lot of relatives up North and the effort clubs go to in order to obtain good facilities and infrastructure is a great credit to them. It seems to be a real community effort there, with the exception of Tourlestrane there is a real lack of clubs driving the community and sparking involvement. I think there is a great urgency for clubs to take it on themselves to make things happen, rather than wait for the county board to sort things out.
Sligo's biggest problem is the GAA is not the heart of our communities and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Have you ever seen such poor attendance of club games as Sligo? I agree on the facilities etc..

Do you not think as custodians of the game the County Board could do more?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
surely the LOI cannot last another 5 years and the "bitofred" will disappear into a myriad of revolving junior clubs.......

then perhaps city clubs will get the finger out and establish GAA as the premier sport in the most populated parts. west sligo like nost of rural Connacht is fucked population wise
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 11, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
surely the LOI cannot last another 5 years and the "bitofred" will disappear into a myriad of revolving junior clubs.......

then perhaps city clubs will get the finger out and establish GAA as the premier sport in the most populated parts. west sligo like nost of rural Connacht is fucked population wise

Truth is there aren't any "city" clubs. Mary's, John's, Calry - all clubs based outside or on the edge of the town with very little traction the closer you go to the town centre. When a club was set up in the centre of the town they made it their business (some of them) to make things awkward for them and eventually it was shut down. At the very least we need one or more underage clubs set up in the centre of Sligo town. Soccer will always be number 1 in the centre of the town but not everyone can live the dream of making it at the Showgrounds  :-\ and certainly I think this should be an initiative lead and backed by the county board. In much the same way as Dublin got a coaching plan backed financially by Croke Park we should be able to come up with something to get us a foothold in our most populated area.

St Molaise Gaels should be acknowledged as a well run club. They've a big area but like Dublin no one cared about that when they were doing poorly. They're strong at all underage levels and have won a senior league. They're an example of what can be done.

Leaving it all up to the clubs is all good and well but you'll get the same results you've always got. We need some radical thinking and good plans, followed through with passion.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 11, 2017, 04:27:44 PM
Pillar Caffrey being mentioned for the Louth job.Rory Gallagher to return to Fermana.gh
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 11, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
surely the LOI cannot last another 5 years and the "bitofred" will disappear into a myriad of revolving junior clubs.......

then perhaps city clubs will get the finger out and establish GAA as the premier sport in the most populated parts. west sligo like nost of rural Connacht is fucked population wise

Truth is there aren't any "city" clubs. Mary's, John's, Calry - all clubs based outside or on the edge of the town with very little traction the closer you go to the town centre. When a club was set up in the centre of the town they made it their business (some of them) to make things awkward for them and eventually it was shut down. At the very least we need one or more underage clubs set up in the centre of Sligo town. Soccer will always be number 1 in the centre of the town but not everyone can live the dream of making it at the Showgrounds  :-\ and certainly I think this should be an initiative lead and backed by the county board. In much the same way as Dublin got a coaching plan backed financially by Croke Park we should be able to come up with something to get us a foothold in our most populated area.

St Molaise Gaels should be acknowledged as a well run club. They've a big area but like Dublin no one cared about that when they were doing poorly. They're strong at all underage levels and have won a senior league. They're an example of what can be done.

Leaving it all up to the clubs is all good and well but you'll get the same results you've always got. We need some radical thinking and good plans, followed through with passion.

I suppose more accurate would be co board get finger out and enable any club drawing from the city population to develop further. I'd have though from afar that marys were getting the house in order... I was counting the 3 you listed as city clubs but understand not strictly speaking. Is Molaise the new(er) name of Grange / Cliffoney
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 11, 2017, 12:55:08 PM
Quote from: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 11:54:42 AM
I'm not too bothered about Carew going, I wouldn't be anywhere near as critical as some on here about his tenure - a Connacht final and retaining Div 3 status in a major transitional period for us is not bad all considered though the collapses against Mayo in 2015 and Roscommon in 2016 were humiliating at the time. I know our club men only had good things to say about him and that it was the most professional set up they had been involved with in Sligo.

What happens from here is now what matters, we're still in a major transitional stage and have quite a promising batch coming through. There are no real candidates in the county, O'Hara looks like the best choice internally but I'd have sever reservations about him being the main man.

If we can stay in Div 3 over the next two years and manage not to humiliate ourselves then we'll hopefully be able to aim a little higher when when the bulk of these young members currently on the panel have more experience and bulked up physically.

A manager can only deal with the hand he is dealt with, it's good to see the performances of our underage teams in recent years but having gone to see a few of the club championship games in recent weeks, it really would wipe any enthusiasm about Sligo football away from you. There are clubs with big picks currently there like Harps, Johns, Marys, Coolera/Strandhill and Molaise Gaels that should certainly be able to challenge for club honours in Connacht. We are absolutely miles behind other counties in terms of tactical and physical conditioning of our club footballers. The enormity of the step up between club football in Sligo and intercounty football is the biggest problem facing Sligo football right now.

Without meaning to be disrespectful of certain players but there are a few lads on the panel now who have been involved for the last 4/5 years who are nowhere near the level but the sad thing is they're probably the best of what's out there. The top senior club sides in Sligo are probably at about the same level as the top club junior sides in Galway and Mayo. Does any club in Sligo have their own proper S&C base?

I heard the same regarding professional and all that, I was pretty heavily involved in the last 6 yrs at club level and with u21 county, etc.. this professional stuff gets bandied about alot, being professional is the easiest part of managing imo anybody can do it, from planning training sessions, food, gameday bus timings, water, etc... but to be honest Ive seen very little little evidence of Managers who are good organisers/professional, good man managers, good tacticians before and ingames, etc.. ie the full package, Carew was not good man manager, he treated players very differently where committment was concerned, some players could come in half way through the year, others couldnt take a holiday early season, he was very poor on player positioning, tactics and gameplans, Its alright getting the admin stuff right and putting out cones etc.. but its even more important to get the other stuff right, 3 yrs he was there and the strength and conditioning of some players wasnt up to scratch imo, the 2015 collapse more should of been learned, he has to take responsibility for that,

I agree on O Hara, its too early but wonder why you have severe reservations?

Your absolutely spot on regards our club footballers and the physical conditioning. County board should be leading the way but our clubs are full of dinosaurs and poor coaches with no knowledge of any of this. Even our injury management seems to be so poor and rehab we seem to always get it wrong. We need a complete revamp of County Board but our clubs are too passive and dont seem to really care about the state of the game, some think its a nrs game and thats it, pats on the back all round.

I think O'Hara needs another few years before he's ready.

Only so much blame can be placed on the county board. The facilities clubs have in Sligo are pretty much appalling. Apart from Tourlestrane and perhaps Bunninadden, there are so few well run clubs in Sligo. Look at the likes of Johns and Harps, big clubs with big picks and they're so far off the scene now. Curry are an absolute rabble now as well. West Sligo has been in a state for years. It's grand blaming the county board for everything but clubs have to get up and take action themselves.

I have a lot of relatives up North and the effort clubs go to in order to obtain good facilities and infrastructure is a great credit to them. It seems to be a real community effort there, with the exception of Tourlestrane there is a real lack of clubs driving the community and sparking involvement. I think there is a great urgency for clubs to take it on themselves to make things happen, rather than wait for the county board to sort things out.
Sligo's biggest problem is the GAA is not the heart of our communities and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Have you ever seen such poor attendance of club games as Sligo? I agree on the facilities etc..

Do you not think as custodians of the game the County Board could do more?

Of course they could but clubs shouldn't be sitting around and waiting for other people to do things, they should be proactive and try and enforce the change itself. To a certain extent I'd disagree with that GAA is not at the heart of the community, the Sligo support is pretty decent, for the qualifiers this year we drew quite large crowds for the home game with Antrim and away game with Meath with little expectation. Maybe in North Sligo and the town, there's not as much appetite until the bandwagon rolls around but in the south and west of the country there would be every bit as much appetite for gaelic football than in the south of the county.

I think the problem with the clubs is more centred on lack of identity in the club. I remember in a former job I worked out in Finisklin, there were two lads from the Harps club - one who had played for them through the underage ranks and another who would have been 20 years or so older. They hadn't an idea who the other one was when they started working and when we were chatting at lunch one day they were saying they lived about a 25 minute drive apart despite both living in the club boundaries - this wouldn't be something that would be unique to Harps either, Shamrock Gaels, Molaise Gaels off the top of my head would also cover huge areas. If you look at Monaghan which would be a similar size to Sligo they have more than double the no of clubs if I'm thinking rightly.

For me the whole club structure in the county is rotten and at the hub of every failing of GAA in Sligo. The County Board can do little about this unless groups from these communities decide that it needs to change, I know there would have been a lot of bad blood about some of the amalgamations in the past.

I don't really see soccer as much of a deterrent any more to be honest. It exists fine with the GAA, the biggest problem seems to be retaining players when they leave underage - Johns are a team that has had so many standout underage players who have never made any real impact at senior level. Rugby has probably become more of a threat in the town with a few promising underage GAA players dabbling with the rugby club in Sligo in recent years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman on September 11, 2017, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 11, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
surely the LOI cannot last another 5 years and the "bitofred" will disappear into a myriad of revolving junior clubs.......

then perhaps city clubs will get the finger out and establish GAA as the premier sport in the most populated parts. west sligo like nost of rural Connacht is fucked population wise

Truth is there aren't any "city" clubs. Mary's, John's, Calry - all clubs based outside or on the edge of the town with very little traction the closer you go to the town centre. When a club was set up in the centre of the town they made it their business (some of them) to make things awkward for them and eventually it was shut down. At the very least we need one or more underage clubs set up in the centre of Sligo town. Soccer will always be number 1 in the centre of the town but not everyone can live the dream of making it at the Showgrounds  :-\ and certainly I think this should be an initiative lead and backed by the county board. In much the same way as Dublin got a coaching plan backed financially by Croke Park we should be able to come up with something to get us a foothold in our most populated area.

St Molaise Gaels should be acknowledged as a well run club. They've a big area but like Dublin no one cared about that when they were doing poorly. They're strong at all underage levels and have won a senior league. They're an example of what can be done.

Leaving it all up to the clubs is all good and well but you'll get the same results you've always got. We need some radical thinking and good plans, followed through with passion.

Molaise Gaels have a huge area. Amalgamations are a bandaid to a festering sore.

Sligo football would be benifitting much more if they had three clubs in this area all fielding teams. Ultimately amalgamations like Shamrock Gaels, Eastern Harps and Molaise Gaels fail Sligo football - they are pulled out of thin air because certain individuals are too big in their boots to suck up a few years in the lower levels and build their team up.

Look at the state Harps and Shamrock Gaels are in now. How much of a success are Molaise Gaels for a club of their size and cachement area?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 11, 2017, 07:51:12 PM
Rory to be confirmed tonight .
Interesting back room team if rumours are to be believed
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2017, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 11, 2017, 07:51:12 PM
Rory to be confirmed tonight .
Interesting back room team if rumours are to be believed
His rumored back room team would want to be a good as outright manager Rory is a downgrade from Pete McGrath.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 11, 2017, 08:56:26 PM
Rory Gallagher ratified with Ryan 'Ricey' McMenamin as assistant
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on September 11, 2017, 08:58:11 PM
Be some combination.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2017, 09:10:28 PM
Quote from: skeog on September 11, 2017, 08:58:11 PM
Be some combination.
A bit of bite to that combination.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on September 11, 2017, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 11, 2017, 08:56:26 PM
Rory Gallagher ratified with Ryan 'Ricey' McMenamin as assistant

That won't end well
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on September 11, 2017, 10:08:36 PM
I can't believe Fermanagh didn't even consider the Banty.
He could have revolutionised Fermanagh football with his free flowing , stylish , open brand of football  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: In hiding on September 11, 2017, 11:06:29 PM
Have louth got a manager yet ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 11, 2017, 11:33:08 PM
Heard Pillar Caffrey in the running.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 12, 2017, 12:16:52 AM
 http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/poll/national-sport/269266/vote-pick-the-next-louth-manager.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on September 12, 2017, 07:31:19 AM
Quote from: FermGael on September 11, 2017, 08:56:26 PM
Rory Gallagher ratified with Ryan 'Ricey' McMenamin as assistant

The prodigal son returns, accompanied by the son you couldn't love..

That's a bit mad. Surely there'd be little enough appetite for Rory in Fermanagh? Or does that matter? As the man says, it's not a 'personality contest', it's about results...  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 12, 2017, 07:56:38 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 12, 2017, 12:16:52 AM
http://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/poll/national-sport/269266/vote-pick-the-next-louth-manager.html
One way to do it I suppose.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on September 12, 2017, 08:11:54 AM

So Rory has stepped away from steering the new generation of potential laden youth of division one Donegal to take on a division three Fermanagh - a team that looks from the outside like it has a glass ceiling with the lack of any substance coming through. Looks an odd one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 12, 2017, 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 12, 2017, 08:11:54 AM

So Rory has stepped away from steering the new generation of potential laden youth of division one Donegal to take on a division three Fermanagh - a team that looks from the outside like it has a glass ceiling with the lack of any substance coming through. Looks an odd one.

Eh? He was ran from Donegal..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on September 12, 2017, 01:30:46 PM
Any word on Liam Kearns Bhoys , is he staying on with Tipp ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 12, 2017, 07:20:35 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 11, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 11, 2017, 04:04:50 PM
surely the LOI cannot last another 5 years and the "bitofred" will disappear into a myriad of revolving junior clubs.......

then perhaps city clubs will get the finger out and establish GAA as the premier sport in the most populated parts. west sligo like nost of rural Connacht is fucked population wise

Truth is there aren't any "city" clubs. Mary's, John's, Calry - all clubs based outside or on the edge of the town with very little traction the closer you go to the town centre. When a club was set up in the centre of the town they made it their business (some of them) to make things awkward for them and eventually it was shut down. At the very least we need one or more underage clubs set up in the centre of Sligo town. Soccer will always be number 1 in the centre of the town but not everyone can live the dream of making it at the Showgrounds  :-\ and certainly I think this should be an initiative lead and backed by the county board. In much the same way as Dublin got a coaching plan backed financially by Croke Park we should be able to come up with something to get us a foothold in our most populated area.

St Molaise Gaels should be acknowledged as a well run club. They've a big area but like Dublin no one cared about that when they were doing poorly. They're strong at all underage levels and have won a senior league. They're an example of what can be done.

Leaving it all up to the clubs is all good and well but you'll get the same results you've always got. We need some radical thinking and good plans, followed through with passion.

I suppose more accurate would be co board get finger out and enable any club drawing from the city population to develop further. I'd have though from afar that marys were getting the house in order... I was counting the 3 you listed as city clubs but understand not strictly speaking. Is Molaise the new(er) name of Grange / Cliffoney
Yes I'm from St Molaise Gaels, its made up of Grange, Cliffoney, Maugherow,

We are strong at underage because sheer nr of players coming through and the local head teacher at Grange is GAA mad and a good coach, the actual coaching in the club itself is poor imo, don't want to say more than that

People talk about our catchment area but its actually smaller than drumcliffe/rosses point, but obvioulsly it is big.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: cornetto on September 13, 2017, 09:39:21 AM
Walsh  to stay on in galway,don't think it's the most favoured but I suppose for continuation purposes not a bad thing,will the players be pleased?it's hard to know I think if you see panel withdrawals,you have your answer.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 13, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
McGeeney confirmed in Armagh I believe.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 14, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Stephen Wallace, ex-Ardfert and ex-Kerry Juniors Manager going to Offaly, per Kerry GAA discussion board.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 14, 2017, 09:00:23 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on September 14, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Stephen Wallace, ex-Ardfert and ex-Kerry Juniors Manager going to Offaly, per Kerry GAA discussion board.

That's official.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 14, 2017, 11:47:44 PM
Connerton reappointed in Larryland they say.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 21, 2017, 06:52:13 PM
Declan Bonner to be appointed in Donegal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 21, 2017, 06:55:19 PM
Quote from: cornetto on September 13, 2017, 09:39:21 AM
Walsh  to stay on in galway,don't think it's the most favoured but I suppose for continuation purposes not a bad thing,will the players be pleased?it's hard to know I think if you see panel withdrawals,you have your answer.

You know something we don't?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 07:48:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 14, 2017, 11:47:44 PM
Connerton reappointed in Larryland they say.
he's retired from the teaching so he can devote himself totally to making Longford a contender for Sam
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
apparently Westmeath are going for ex Wicklow manager Magee or ex Louth manager Colin Kelly

they really love their outside managers = the expenses must be good, or the county board don't want a local rocking the applecart
no homegrown manager since Luke Dempsey
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on September 21, 2017, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
apparently Westmeath are going for ex Wicklow manager Magee or ex Louth manager Colin Kelly

they really love their outside managers = the expenses must be good, or the county board don't want a local rocking the applecart
no homegrown manager since Luke Dempsey

Who is from Kildare. No Westmeath man since the early 90's. And the expenses certainly are not good.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 21, 2017, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
apparently Westmeath are going for ex Wicklow manager Magee or ex Louth manager Colin Kelly

they really love their outside managers = the expenses must be good, or the county board don't want a local rocking the applecart
no homegrown manager since Luke Dempsey

Fergal O'Donnell was supposedly intrested and in a "Final Three" with the two lads left but is out of the running now. Not sure if that was down to himself pulling out with his eyes on Sligo or been ruled out but that was the story doing the rounds at club games in Roscommon last few weeks
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
Quote from: shark on September 21, 2017, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
apparently Westmeath are going for ex Wicklow manager Magee or ex Louth manager Colin Kelly

they really love their outside managers = the expenses must be good, or the county board don't want a local rocking the applecart
no homegrown manager since Luke Dempsey

Who is from Kildare. No Westmeath man since the early 90's. And the expenses certainly are not good.
living locally and working locally though
no money in westmeath yet there's plenty of sponsored cars being driven around the place...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 22, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 21, 2017, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on September 21, 2017, 07:50:09 PM
apparently Westmeath are going for ex Wicklow manager Magee or ex Louth manager Colin Kelly

they really love their outside managers = the expenses must be good, or the county board don't want a local rocking the applecart
no homegrown manager since Luke Dempsey

Fergal O'Donnell was supposedly intrested and in a "Final Three" with the two lads left but is out of the running now. Not sure if that was down to himself pulling out with his eyes on Sligo or been ruled out but that was the story doing the rounds at club games in Roscommon last few weeks

I hope he's in line for our job. Nominations from the clubs need to be in this evening. One rumour I heard was Banty but he might be doing Monaghan U-17's?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 26, 2017, 11:14:15 AM
Lenny Harbison appointed in Antrim,  Fitzmaurice staying on in Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on September 26, 2017, 08:11:33 PM
Liam Kearns in charge of Tipp again :D with former Tipp and Kildare Player Brian Lacey coming on board as Selector !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 26, 2017, 10:05:53 PM
Stephen wallace in offaly with Billy Sheehan as asst
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Real Talk on September 26, 2017, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 26, 2017, 10:05:53 PM
Stephen wallace in offaly with Billy Sheehan as asst
Is that the Billy Sheehan that used to play for Laois ....  is he a native of Kerry ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 26, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Yes, that's him. Orginally from Kerry.  He was the coach of Cork for the past 2 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 27, 2017, 12:16:10 PM
Another Kerryman in a job

John Sugrue for Laois

http://www.the42.ie/laois-football-john-sugrue-kerry-3617578-Sep2017/

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 27, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on September 26, 2017, 10:12:49 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 26, 2017, 10:05:53 PM
Stephen wallace in offaly with Billy Sheehan as asst
Is that the Billy Sheehan that used to play for Laois ....  is he a native of Kerry ?

yes an Austin Stacks man but living in Dublin for a fair while now
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 27, 2017, 06:16:19 PM
New Laois manager only got 1 year according to the Laois lads. WTF
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 27, 2017, 06:16:36 PM
They would all hardly fit......

Mostblive outside the county also. Sugrue long established in Laois
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

It would have something to do with there being only one senior IC job in Kerry.. obviously.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

Well I suppose there's only so many jobs to go around.
Evans managed Laune Rangers to an All Ireland Club Championship.
Liam Kearns would be well respected as a manager.
Stephen Wallace won a couple of Junior All Irelands in Kerry, as well as an All Ireland Intermediate Club with Ardfert, he'd be in demand.
John Sugrue lives in Portlaoise and has done for years. He was involved in the backroom team of a couple of Kerry setups but has also been with Laois before.
And Billy Sheehan is living in Dublin I think.

If you're trying to say they are not wanted in Kerry, I think you're wrong.

One to watch is Declan O'Sullivan. He's got Dromid promoted to the 2nd Division, and they are in the Premier Junior championship final as well I think. He's done a bit of time with Jack O'Connor as well in Minor and U21 squads.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

Well I suppose there's only so many jobs to go around.
Evans managed Laune Rangers to an All Ireland Club Championship.
Liam Kearns would be well respected as a manager.
Stephen Wallace won a couple of Junior All Irelands in Kerry, as well as an All Ireland Intermediate Club with Ardfert, he'd be in demand.
John Sugrue lives in Portlaoise and has done for years. He was involved in the backroom team of a couple of Kerry setups but has also been with Laois before.
And Billy Sheehan is living in Dublin I think.

If you're trying to say they are not wanted in Kerry, I think you're wrong.

One to watch is Declan O'Sullivan. He's got Dromid promoted to the 2nd Division, and they are in the Premier Junior championship final as well I think. He's done a bit of time with Jack O'Connor as well in Minor and U21 squads.

The subtle shades of xenophobia in a country as tiny as Ireland never fail to sadden and amuse in equal measure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 27, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Evans, Wallace and Sugure have all managed clubs in Kerry previously.

Don't think Kearns or Sheehan has.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on September 27, 2017, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

Kearns is living in Clonlara . Clonlara is in Clare and about 45 minutes from Thurles where Tipp train !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

Well I suppose there's only so many jobs to go around.
Evans managed Laune Rangers to an All Ireland Club Championship.
Liam Kearns would be well respected as a manager.
Stephen Wallace won a couple of Junior All Irelands in Kerry, as well as an All Ireland Intermediate Club with Ardfert, he'd be in demand.
John Sugrue lives in Portlaoise and has done for years. He was involved in the backroom team of a couple of Kerry setups but has also been with Laois before.
And Billy Sheehan is living in Dublin I think.

If you're trying to say they are not wanted in Kerry, I think you're wrong.

One to watch is Declan O'Sullivan. He's got Dromid promoted to the 2nd Division, and they are in the Premier Junior championship final as well I think. He's done a bit of time with Jack O'Connor as well in Minor and U21 squads.

The subtle shades of xenophobia in a country as tiny as Ireland never fail to sadden and amuse in equal measure.

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Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 06:46:06 PM
Don't AZ.
He'll do your head in.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

Well I suppose there's only so many jobs to go around.
Evans managed Laune Rangers to an All Ireland Club Championship.
Liam Kearns would be well respected as a manager.
Stephen Wallace won a couple of Junior All Irelands in Kerry, as well as an All Ireland Intermediate Club with Ardfert, he'd be in demand.
John Sugrue lives in Portlaoise and has done for years. He was involved in the backroom team of a couple of Kerry setups but has also been with Laois before.
And Billy Sheehan is living in Dublin I think.

If you're trying to say they are not wanted in Kerry, I think you're wrong.

One to watch is Declan O'Sullivan. He's got Dromid promoted to the 2nd Division, and they are in the Premier Junior championship final as well I think. He's done a bit of time with Jack O'Connor as well in Minor and U21 squads.

No simply curious.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 27, 2017, 07:04:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 27, 2017, 06:16:19 PM
New Laois manager only got 1 year according to the Laois lads. WTF
If thats true he's more a fool to accept that deal as all managers should be given at least two years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 07:23:49 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 06:26:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 27, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2017, 06:13:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
How many Kerry men out there now
Evans, Kearns,  Wallace, Sugrue , Sheehan...... ...
Anyone curious as to why all these Kerry men don't get management jobs in Kerry?

Well I suppose there's only so many jobs to go around.
Evans managed Laune Rangers to an All Ireland Club Championship.
Liam Kearns would be well respected as a manager.
Stephen Wallace won a couple of Junior All Irelands in Kerry, as well as an All Ireland Intermediate Club with Ardfert, he'd be in demand.
John Sugrue lives in Portlaoise and has done for years. He was involved in the backroom team of a couple of Kerry setups but has also been with Laois before.
And Billy Sheehan is living in Dublin I think.

If you're trying to say they are not wanted in Kerry, I think you're wrong.

One to watch is Declan O'Sullivan. He's got Dromid promoted to the 2nd Division, and they are in the Premier Junior championship final as well I think. He's done a bit of time with Jack O'Connor as well in Minor and U21 squads.

The subtle shades of xenophobia in a country as tiny as Ireland never fail to sadden and amuse in equal measure.

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Mistrust of the outsider, the foreigner. In IC it boils down to a manager or coach (God help an outside manager who don't have a token local on staff) who isn't from a given county. Here in Roscommon we seem to have a particularly hatred of them despite having only a few managers in the county without a bare trophy cabinet to begin with. It's a childish, easy excuse that appeals only to the worst nature of people.

If that wasn't comical enough, at club level it devolves to someone from a neighboring parish coaching or managing a team being treated with suspicion. The sad part is the one common factor in all of it is a county or a club pulling in different directions selfishly, and going no where because of it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 08:09:44 PM
Jasus Syfīn you are surpassing even yourself in nonsensical rambling now.
An awful lot of Counties have outside managers and a right scatter of clubs do too.
You're  stereotyping is reminiscent of the stage Irishman nonsense.
In our case John Tobin and John Evans were both well liked.
Tommy Tom and the Tanman were not popular and for good reason.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 27, 2017, 08:10:06 PM
Pete McGrath new Louth manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on September 27, 2017, 08:32:02 PM
Pete staying in Div 2.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 08:09:44 PM
Jasus Syfīn you are surpassing even yourself in nonsensical rambling now.
An awful lot of Counties have outside managers and a right scatter of clubs do too.
You're  stereotyping is reminiscent of the stage Irishman nonsense.
In our case John Tobin and John Evans were both well liked.
Tommy Tom and the Tanman were not popular and for good reason.

How did John Evans' term end again? With rumblings he couldn't even get half the clubs in the county to vote him in for a single year term, an insurrection spear-headed by none other than the incoming county board chairman? Well liked my arse. Please stop trying to pass bullshit as fact.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 27, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Kevin McStay has been reappointed manager of the Roscommon senior footballers on a two-year term with the option of a third.

Colin Kelly is the new Westmeath football boss.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 28, 2017, 12:18:27 PM
We've managed to appoint two men to "head up" our managerial search committee. John Tobin is one of them so there's hope but as usual we're miles behind other counties. Appointing someone before the club championships end - sure why would you bother with that?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 28, 2017, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 27, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Kevin McStay has been reappointed manager of the Roscommon senior footballers on a two-year term with the option of a third.

Colin Kelly is the new Westmeath football boss.

was mcstay not appointed last year for a new term or was that another rossie solution to not being able to hold managers
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 28, 2017, 01:30:24 PM
He was indeed - for 2 years with the option of a 3rd.
Either his appointment was terminated after the Championship or we're at some kind of  PR stuff.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 28, 2017, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 27, 2017, 08:40:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 27, 2017, 08:09:44 PM
Jasus Syfīn you are surpassing even yourself in nonsensical rambling now.
An awful lot of Counties have outside managers and a right scatter of clubs do too.
You're  stereotyping is reminiscent of the stage Irishman nonsense.
In our case John Tobin and John Evans were both well liked.
Tommy Tom and the Tanman were not popular and for good reason.

How did John Evans' term end again? With rumblings he couldn't even get half the clubs in the county to vote him in for a single year term, an insurrection spear-headed by none other than the incoming county board chairman? Well liked my arse. Please stop trying to pass bullshit as fact.
You fond of using words like arse and bullshit - very apt if I may say so.
The heave against Johneen Evans came because if bad results v Sligo and Fermanagh. The Executive were about to re appoint him but when an alternative with financial backing was mooted  the game was up.
BUT it was due to results not unpopularity.
Now you stick to arses and bullshit as you usually do.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 10, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 27, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Kevin McStay has been reappointed manager of the Roscommon senior footballers on a two-year term with the option of a third.

Colin Kelly is the new Westmeath football boss.

Very underwhelmed. Then again I wasn't exactly blown away when Cribbin was eventually appointed and I'd take your hand off for a repeat of the last 3 years in championship again right now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 10, 2017, 03:37:52 PM
Is everyone fixed up now apart from Sligo??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 10, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 10, 2017, 03:37:52 PM
Is everyone fixed up now apart from Sligo??
Have Sligo interviewed anyone for the job yet?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on October 10, 2017, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 10, 2017, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 10, 2017, 03:37:52 PM
Is everyone fixed up now apart from Sligo??
Have Sligo interviewed anyone for the job yet?

Or has anyone interviewed Sligo to see why he should take them on?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 10, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
At least the Roscommon bus can make it out of the garage in the first place, Eamonn.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 5 Sams on October 10, 2017, 10:44:52 PM
Gearóíd Adams in with Eamonn Burns for 2018.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on October 10, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
Only a few rumours floating around Sligo, nothing concrete. Sure whats the rush? Looking at club championship games isn't really necessary anyway.  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 11, 2017, 01:10:24 AM
Ye'll be grand Seànie.
Connacht is a given for ye next year - Rhubarbs gone over the hill, we're aiming to peak in the Super 8s, Galway are flaky.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on October 17, 2017, 06:01:59 PM
Paschal Kellaghan is the new Tipp Coach , a bold move by Liam Kearns . Kellaghan has a great record at Club level guiding his native Rhode to another Offaly Senior Title this year and has been successful with other Clubs also !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on October 17, 2017, 06:05:59 PM
I suspect this will be a move towards a more defensive game plan. Pascal has the best team in Offaly by a mile, but he has set his teams up to defend en-masse and hit fast, hard and in numbers. He's used to a couple of marquee forwards so he should be used to the likes of Quinlivan and Sweeney. Interesting stuff.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2017, 06:38:54 PM
Any body hear Rochford's intentions yet? Or was he giving himself until the 31st of October to decide? I assume he will stay on anyway.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 17, 2017, 06:45:56 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2017, 06:38:54 PM
Any body hear Rochford's intentions yet? Or was he giving himself until the 31st of October to decide? I assume he will stay on anyway.

If he isn't staying on he's going to leave Mayo high and dry for 2018 at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on October 18, 2017, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 17, 2017, 06:05:59 PM
I suspect this will be a move towards a more defensive game plan. Pascal has the best team in Offaly by a mile, but he has set his teams up to defend en-masse and hit fast, hard and in numbers. He's used to a couple of marquee forwards so he should be used to the likes of Quinlivan and Sweeney. Interesting stuff.

Will he stay on with Rhode?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on October 19, 2017, 09:52:44 AM
He might I suppose, but he has a young family and if he's in Thurles 3 days a week, it might be hard to be in Rhode another 2 or 3 nights.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 19, 2017, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2017, 06:38:54 PM
Any body hear Rochford's intentions yet? Or was he giving himself until the 31st of October to decide? I assume he will stay on anyway.

have the players not met yet and decided hes not good enough ??????
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on October 23, 2017, 10:41:37 PM
http://www.sligogaa.ie/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleid=28310
Seems they admitted that he applied for Donegal job before he went near Sligo. (Facepalm)  ;D  ;D ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 23, 2017, 10:46:47 PM
Cathal Corey has never managed a county team at any level or even been part of a county setup. Significantly he went for county underage jobs in his native Tyrone but was not successful. His claim to fame seems to be applying for the Donegal job and again was unsuccessful. Now hes managing Sligo senior team. I despair!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: In hiding on October 23, 2017, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: ck on October 23, 2017, 10:46:47 PM
Cathal Corey has never managed a county team at any level or even been part of a county setup. Significantly he went for county underage jobs in his native Tyrone but was not successful. His claim to fame seems to be applying for the Donegal job and again was unsuccessful. Now hes managing Sligo senior team. I despair!
Wow! Sligo are taking a big leap of faith there
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
And all that whining about Carew..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 23, 2017, 11:33:29 PM
Anyone would be better than Carew who was kept on too long leaving a lot of damage behind.  Cathal Corey,Tony Scullion,Conleth Gilligan all on Sligos management should that mean extra focus to improve them defensively?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2017, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 23, 2017, 11:33:29 PM
Anyone would be better than Carew who was kept on too long leaving a lot of damage behind.  Cathal Corey,Tony Scullion,Conleth Gilligan all on Sligos management should that mean extra focus to improve them defensively?

All it means is they didn't charge too high a rate to do the job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 23, 2017, 11:50:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 23, 2017, 11:33:29 PM
Anyone would be better than Carew who was kept on too long leaving a lot of damage behind.  Cathal Corey,Tony Scullion,Conleth Gilligan all on Sligos management should that mean extra focus to improve them defensively?

Is his backroom team confirmed or is that just speculation?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on October 23, 2017, 11:55:16 PM
Confirmed along with Rooney.

Not sure what to make of it all. Couldn't be worse than what came before. Most important to be his own man and not listen to the people that usually find a way into the county managers ear. Need some of the mid thirties guys to be thanked for their service and move on with young lads. Especially the ones who haven't had anything to offer for the last 3-5 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 24, 2017, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 23, 2017, 11:33:29 PM
Anyone would be better than Carew who was kept on too long leaving a lot of damage behind.  Cathal Corey,Tony Scullion,Conleth Gilligan all on Sligos management should that mean extra focus to improve them defensively?

Gilligan was a forward with Derry, he is probably looking after the attacking side.  Scullion om defense.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on October 24, 2017, 12:07:42 AM
Scullion was a great player in his time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WT4E on October 24, 2017, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: In hiding on October 23, 2017, 10:56:32 PM
Quote from: ck on October 23, 2017, 10:46:47 PM
Cathal Corey has never managed a county team at any level or even been part of a county setup. Significantly he went for county underage jobs in his native Tyrone but was not successful. His claim to fame seems to be applying for the Donegal job and again was unsuccessful. Now hes managing Sligo senior team. I despair!
Wow! Sligo are taking a big leap of faith there

Cathal is a clubman of my own.

He does lack inter county experience but he's a man that puts in a massive commitment and effort and players tend to get on with him as he has a good personality.

To say his claim to fame is nearly getting the Donegal job is unfair - He took Glenties to an Ulster Club final and has plenty of experience throughout the club scene and would have learned from alot of managers. I wouldn't consider there to be much difference between him and Rory Gallagher (both McGuinness no 2's and took over after although when Cathal took over he had much more success than Gallagher)

The reason i can see Scullion in is because Scullion took our club with Corey as No2 in his first experience in coaching from 1998 - 2001 (Scullion bringing us from the brink of going to Junior football to contesting right at the top of Senior by the end and leading the path to one of our better periods where we topped the div 1 league one season). Scullion is a serious coach.

Time will tell with the appointment but I think after season 1 Sligo will be better than they where last year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on October 24, 2017, 10:28:12 AM
Tony scullion been with Derry last couple of years with barton, was seen when they won, never seen when they lost, so was'nt seen much! He cannot be with Sligo though as his role with ulster council only allows him to work with his own club or county
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WT4E on October 24, 2017, 10:30:53 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on October 24, 2017, 10:28:12 AM
Tony scullion been with Derry last couple of years with barton, was seen when they won, never seen when they lost, so was'nt seen much! He cannot be with Sligo though as his role with ulster council only allows him to work with his own club or county

I believe that rule applies to Ulster only - As its in Connacht I believe its okay.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on October 24, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
Interesting WT4E. We all wish him well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on October 24, 2017, 11:43:53 AM
so he is paid to develop football in ulster but is able to work for connacht for what could be percieved a rival province.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 24, 2017, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on October 24, 2017, 11:43:53 AM
so he is paid to develop football in ulster but is able to work for connacht for what could be percieved a rival province.
Just an unpaid free time activity with Sligo. ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WT4E on October 24, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on October 24, 2017, 11:43:53 AM
so he is paid to develop football in ulster but is able to work for connacht for what could be percieved a rival province.

When you put it like that doesn't make sense - maybe i'm wrong!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on October 24, 2017, 12:15:49 PM
I like the decision.  It's better we get a coach that's hungry and trying to make a name for himself than someone who has been there done that as all of the real good ones are already snapped up.
I obviously know nothing about him but he is coming in at a good time imo.  The new COE and the underage competitiveness and school success has led to a decent pipeline of good talent.  Good to hear that some people who actually know Cathal have good things to say about him. A hungry manager and a team starved for success might be a good combination.

I hope I'm right on this one.. I have a good feeling...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 24, 2017, 12:26:38 PM
I'm just happy FOD didn't go for it. There would be reason to worry for us in that case.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 25, 2017, 01:01:59 PM
My understanding is FOD was interviewed Syferus

My thoughts on the Corey as manager are mixed, he interviewed well but let us put this in perspective, people can bluff interviews and talk the talk, from my research he was turned down by Donegal twice, derry and Fermanagh, that for me doesn't send the right message, he has lots of experience in interviews too it must be said so it was bound to interview well, he won Donegal SFC with Naomh Conaill in 2010, he had previously being joint manager with McGuinness the year before. Naomh Conaill went on to the Ulster final but were beaten by cross, hes managed a few clubs and Jordanstown, most recently Truagh Gaels in Monaghan who had a decent senior campaign this year. Interesting to that he ended up with Truagh Gaels in Monaghan last yr.

I wasn't at the interviews but it is curious that McGuinness never got him involved in his Donegal set ups considering they were joint managers in 09 when they lost county final. That would have been a key question to ask for me. I would of seeked a reference from McGuinness on him, maybe they did.

He hasn't any intercounty experience, which is a big worry. Intercounty is a different ball game to club, he will have a lot learning to do. Finances probably decided it sadly.

The only saving grace for me is his backroom team, Rooney is a great link for the u21s of last yr and will bring enthusiasm, energy to it, Scullion is a very highly rated coach and will help defensive strategy, Gilligan will be forwards coach.

His main task is to revamp the squad and team, some of the older players need to be thanked and moved on, he also needs to be his own man and not listen to the people who usually find a way of getting into the ear of our county managers in Sligo.

I wish them all the best but it is a very risky appointment and doesn't hint of any ambition on the CBs part, it go either way but no guarantee of success at all. His team selections during the FBD league will tell us a lot. He needs to work the squad hard on strength and conditioning as I feel we are lagging behind on that front.

It has to be said the County board press release was very poor last night honestly disapppointing but not surprising and is yet another insight into how they are run. To put down him being interviewed by Donegal as some sort of achievement is very puzzling and strange.

In conclusion its another obscure high risk appointment with no guarantee of progression or success as we don't really know what we are getting, but I wish him all the best
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Haven't most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack O'connor (And I'm not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, he's hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and I'm optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 25, 2017, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Haven't most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack O'connor (And I'm not even sure about that).




Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, he's hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and I'm optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal


Jim Gavin as a successful all ireland u21 winning manager in the same county was about as low risk as possible and was overlooked in 2008 in the rush to bring Vincents men Gilroy and Whelan on board
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 25, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Haven't most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack O'connor (And I'm not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, he's hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and I'm optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 25, 2017, 01:58:23 PM
It's the fact he was rejected as an underage IC coach that sticks out to me.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on October 25, 2017, 03:33:10 PM
Gavin actually won 3 All Ireland U21's. Great example of inexperienced at intercounty level there.  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on October 25, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on October 25, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Haven't most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack O'connor (And I'm not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, he's hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and I'm optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Time to face the facts, no matter who is appointed [inert name of Division 3/4 county] they will not be winning a provincial much less an AI title in the near future. [insert name of Division 2 county] will have some chance of winning a provincial title but only a slight chance of making the Super 8 competition especially after it has run for a couple of years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on October 25, 2017, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 25, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on October 25, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Haven't most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack O'connor (And I'm not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, he's hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and I'm optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Time to face the facts, no matter who is appointed [inert name of Division 3/4 county] they will not be winning a provincial much less an AI title in the near future. [insert name of Division 2 county] will have some chance of winning a provincial title but only a slight chance of making the Super 8 competition especially after it has run for a couple of years.

What's your point though? What you're saying is almost irrelevant.

All we want is to maximise our resources and have as close to the best Sligo team we can possibly have. Who knows where that would take us? Are we not right to hope for this or should we just give up? For the first time in a long while we've been reasonably competitive for a few consecutive years at minor and U21 and we're just hoping we can harness these good lads and give them a platform to excel. Perhaps this is a masterstroke appointment and hopefully it is. Legitimate expression of concerns are not to be feared or resented. We all want this to work. If we're at the stage where we're not allowed to express an independent view then that's a sad a serious situation I feel.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 25, 2017, 04:00:11 PM
I honestly think if Sligo weren't penny pinching they could have got someone like FOD. In many ways the Sligo job suits him better than the Roscommon job given he's living in Boyle, whereas he'd be regularly traveling to AIT for training when he was managing Roscommon.

Usually when you've got a candidate who hears you out and is freely available it ends up being a case of the CB being unwilling to back an ambitious plan, or not being willing to cede the control needed to run a county team effectively.

Sligo is nearly exactly the same size as Roscommon. 22 Connachts to 3. Structurally it's always been the same old story north of Ballagh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 25, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
O'Donnell was a poxed lucky manager surrounded by yes men......

dont think Sligo missed anything there
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 25, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 25, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
O'Donnell was a poxed lucky manager surrounded by yes men......

dont think Sligo missed anything there

:o

FOD doesn't need me to defend him. Only an eejit would attack him like you just have.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 25, 2017, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 25, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 25, 2017, 04:27:06 PM
O'Donnell was a poxed lucky manager surrounded by yes men......

dont think Sligo missed anything there

:o

FOD doesn't need me to defend him. Only an eejit would attack him like you just have.

2010 was a lucky win, tactically lost 2011. didnt achieve anything further at senior club or intercounty level........

an excellent underage coach admittedly
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 25, 2017, 06:18:49 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 25, 2017, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on October 25, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 01:13:53 PM
Was Jim Gavin high risk when he took over Dublin?  No senior county management experience?

Haven't most successful county managers had the most success in their first manager Job?

What county manager in the last 20 years has won an All-Ireland as a manager for a second time?  Jack O'connor (And I'm not even sure about that).

Way too much crap and talk about former experience imo.  As I said earlier, he's hungry, the back room team (if confirmed) looks good, we have a decent squad and I'm optimistic about this...

Good luck Cathal
Wow, just wow. Your logic is so far off the scale I don't know where to start. You honestly believe mentioning  his lack of intercounty experience is a load of crap.

Compare him to Holmes/Connelly, FOD etc... why don't some Sligo people get it that we needed experience, we've failed with the 1st timers, its not a successful approach but we keep doing it.

Jim Gavin is a terrible example, u21 winner, AI winning player etc... this guy is coming from Truagh Gaels to Sligo. We could get lucky and he's great but he could be a disaster like Jordan/Carew et... Good luck to him.

Time to face the facts, no matter who is appointed [inert name of Division 3/4 county] they will not be winning a provincial much less an AI title in the near future. [insert name of Division 2 county] will have some chance of winning a provincial title but only a slight chance of making the Super 8 competition especially after it has run for a couple of years.

Malachy O'Rourke won Ulster with Monaghan in his first year with them and they played their league football in Div 3 that spring.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
My point is that most all-Ireland's or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, he's well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 25, 2017, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
My point is that most all-Ireland's or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, he's well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..

He's good enough for the Sligo seniors but not a Tyrone academy team..?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 25, 2017, 07:14:47 PM
If not in with Mickey Hsrte he doesn't get s  look in with any Tyrone team
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on October 25, 2017, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
My point is that most all-Ireland's or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, he's well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..

John O'Mahoney the only All-Ireland winner in recent times who had prior intercounty management with another county? Can't think of others.
More at provincial. Micko, Paidi, Mickey Moran, O'Rourke.
I guess the successful counties don't go outside for their managers.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 25, 2017, 07:49:28 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on October 25, 2017, 07:06:20 PM
My point is that most all-Ireland's or provincials have been won with managers on their first assignment.  I know Gavin had u21 experience but no senior inter-county.  Same applies to Rochford in Mayo, McStay in Ross, and most other counties.
We had a former county manager who had stints with other counties and ye were giving out about him too. 

Give the guy a chance, he has a decent resume, he's well liked apparently, good backroom team and he is out to prove himself, which can only be good if channeled properly.

Time will tell, but I think we might have picked a good one here..
Explain to me how we are not giving him a chance? Explain to how we are giving out about him?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 25, 2017, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
Be interesting to see if he is still Mayo manager by 2020.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 25, 2017, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
The Mayo GAA statement says his backroom team will be confirmed in the coming weeks. Which would suggest a few changes will be made.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 11:31:04 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on October 25, 2017, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
The Mayo GAA statement says his backroom team will be confirmed in the coming weeks. Which would suggest a few changes will be made.

According to The Mayo News, McEntee is expected to stay on but they don't know yet about Buckley or Peter Burke.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 11:34:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 25, 2017, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
Be interesting to see if he is still Mayo manager by 2020.

These contracts don't mean much in all honesty. I'd say the main reason for extending his term is to stop any talk of managerial changes during the season.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrhardyannual on October 26, 2017, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 11:34:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 25, 2017, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
Be interesting to see if he is still Mayo manager by 2020.

These contracts don't mean much in all honesty. I'd say the main reason for extending his term is to stop any talk of managerial changes during the season.
First of all it is good news if not unexpected. Donie Buckley usually heads to the States at this time of year and his continuation may not be confirmed for a while. I would be surprised if Peter Burke pulls away as he seemed to have a greater input as the season progressed.  Joe Keane of Crossmolina is also involved. Some talk that Barry Solan who has been involved with Arsenal for the past two years may move away but most of the groundwork was being done by Conor Finn.
The extra two years normally gives a manager an opportunity to introduce new players and revitalise a squad. Kerry and the Rossies have done the same thing this year which reduces the pressure on a manager entering the final year of his term.  It will be difficult to gauge in Mayo as there will be two conflicting trains of thought  ... take a step back and rebuild in order to go forward or to continue with the team that has fallen millimetres short. I'm sure to be told that Jim Gavin is constantly re-invigorating his team with new faces but that's an advantage/luxury that comes with having a win under your belt. Roll on 2018. Cairde ticket being renewed this week.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 13, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
McGeeney confirmed in Armagh I believe.

Guess who has joined McGeeney's management team?

http://armaghgaa.net/football/jim-mccorry-joins-senior-football-county-management-team/ (http://armaghgaa.net/football/jim-mccorry-joins-senior-football-county-management-team/)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on November 29, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 13, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
McGeeney confirmed in Armagh I believe.

Guess who has joined McGeeney's management team?

Jim McCorry ? ? ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on November 29, 2017, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on November 29, 2017, 10:28:38 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on November 29, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 13, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
McGeeney confirmed in Armagh I believe.

Guess who has joined McGeeney's management team?

Jim McCorry ? ? ?

No, it's Joe Brolly!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on July 04, 2018, 12:25:18 AM
Éamonn Burns gone from Down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 04, 2018, 12:31:40 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on July 04, 2018, 12:25:18 AM
Éamonn Burns gone from Down.

Poacher favourite surely?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: smelmoth on July 04, 2018, 09:40:38 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 04, 2018, 12:31:40 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on July 04, 2018, 12:25:18 AM
Éamonn Burns gone from Down.

Poacher favourite surely?

Please no. Some of us attend Down games as a neutral.

Can't take any more defensive football
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on July 04, 2018, 11:19:27 AM

Poacher isn't a manager surely?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 04, 2018, 06:58:40 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 04, 2018, 11:19:27 AM

Poacher isn't a manager surely?

He has done a fairly good job with Carlow, Turlough has been more of a spokesman/cheerleader.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lar Naparka on July 04, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
+1 Good!
The least amount of change, the better. Obviously he see potential there and I couldn't see him staying if he felt there would be mass resignations from the panel. Mayo hasn't gone away, you know. ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 04, 2018, 08:21:57 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 04, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
+1 Good!
The least amount of change, the better. Obviously he see potential there and I couldn't see him staying if he felt there would be mass resignations from the panel. Mayo hasn't gone away, you know. ;D

Fúcking lol.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: maigheo on July 04, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 04, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
+1 Good!
The least amount of change, the better. Obviously he see potential there and I couldn't see him staying if he felt there would be mass resignations from the panel. Mayo hasn't gone away, you know. ;D
OOPS :)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 04, 2018, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 04, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
+1 Good!
The least amount of change, the better. Obviously he see potential there and I couldn't see him staying if he felt there would be mass resignations from the panel. Mayo hasn't gone away, you know. ;D

Haha Lar. Check the date.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on July 04, 2018, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 04, 2018, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 04, 2018, 08:11:38 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on October 25, 2017, 10:30:16 PM
Rochford given a 2 year extension to his deal tonight - until 2020. Backroom team not confirmed yet though. Hopefully no major changes there either.
+1 Good!
The least amount of change, the better. Obviously he see potential there and I couldn't see him staying if he felt there would be mass resignations from the panel. Mayo hasn't gone away, you know. ;D

Haha Lar. Check the date.

Presumably the fact remains that he has at least another year left to run on his contract though. I'd prefer to see him stay on unless we have a better replacement
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 04, 2018, 11:02:31 PM
Contract? There's no such thing. It's no more than a gentleman's agreement which either party can break without penalty.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on July 04, 2018, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 04, 2018, 11:02:31 PM
Contract? There's no such thing. It's no more than a gentleman's agreement which either party can break without penalty.

Sorry, incorrect word on my part but he still has another year to run so presumably he wants to stay on and I'd be surprised if the CB ditch him
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bucko on July 04, 2018, 11:22:18 PM
If Rochford goes it'll be his choice. Co Board don't want to go through the hassle of another managerial appointment with no obvious candidates in the county for the job. IF he stays and IF the majority of the players stay on, Rochford will be working with something next year that he hasn't had the last three years. A rested squad.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2018, 12:02:07 AM
Quote from: bucko on July 04, 2018, 11:22:18 PM
If Rochford goes it'll be his choice. Co Board don't want to go through the hassle of another managerial appointment with no obvious candidates in the county for the job. IF he stays and IF the majority of the players stay on, Rochford will be working with something next year that he hasn't had the last three years. A rested squad.

A rested old man is still an old man.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on July 05, 2018, 12:09:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 05, 2018, 12:02:07 AM
Quote from: bucko on July 04, 2018, 11:22:18 PM
If Rochford goes it'll be his choice. Co Board don't want to go through the hassle of another managerial appointment with no obvious candidates in the county for the job. IF he stays and IF the majority of the players stay on, Rochford will be working with something next year that he hasn't had the last three years. A rested squad.

A rested old man is still an old man.
I'm guessing that Roscommon is no county for old men...get it? ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 05, 2018, 12:13:05 AM
If we lose to Armagh there might be a candidate available ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bucko on July 05, 2018, 12:22:02 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2018, 12:13:05 AM
If we lose to Armagh there might be a candidate available ;)
If so, I doubt he'll deal with our co board again for a good while after the last fiasco.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2018, 12:44:57 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 05, 2018, 12:13:05 AM
If we lose to Armagh there might be a candidate available ;)

KMac has earned the respect of all true Rossies at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 05, 2018, 07:34:49 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 04, 2018, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 04, 2018, 11:02:31 PM
Contract? There's no such thing. It's no more than a gentleman's agreement which either party can break without penalty.

Sorry, incorrect word on my part but he still has another year to run so presumably he wants to stay on and I'd be surprised if the CB ditch him

Surely its the O'Ses and their mates who decide on whether any one stays as Mayo team manager with the county board just rubber stamping their decisions,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lar Naparka on July 05, 2018, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on July 05, 2018, 07:34:49 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 04, 2018, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 04, 2018, 11:02:31 PM
Contract? There's no such thing. It's no more than a gentleman's agreement which either party can break without penalty.

Sorry, incorrect word on my part but he still has another year to run so presumably he wants to stay on and I'd be surprised if the CB ditch him

Surely its the O'Ses and their mates who decide on whether any one stays as Mayo team manager with the county board just rubber stamping their decisions,
I am sure it is. Isn't that what happens in all counties?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on July 05, 2018, 08:22:30 PM
Wee Pete is away too
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 05, 2018, 08:30:06 PM
It didn't help when he came out with the likes of this:
http://www.the42.ie/pete-mcgrath-louth-2-4013266-May2018/
QuoteA DESPONDENT PETE McGrath stopped just short of saying he regretted taking on the Louth job in the wake of their 11-point defeat to Carlow on Sunday.

In his first year in charge, McGrath watched his team lose all seven of their Division 2 games this year before they were dumped out of the Leinster SFC by a buoyant Carlow outfit in Portlaoise.

"When you have lost a match like that, you feel not only disappointed but devastated," McGrath said after the game.

"You don't regret it (taking the job), but you say, 'I have maybe made better decisions in my life.'

"I wasn't sure what Louth football was like. I found out early on with the unavailability of players and a couple of injuries that it was going to be a struggle but I felt the players were up to it and management was up to it."

It is no surprise Fermanagh have improved this year. But to be fair to him he had Louth very fit in the first week of January.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on July 05, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
Fermanagh haven't improved that much. They got to an Ulster final playing dogged defensive football, and were outclassed in the Ulster final. They got promoted in the League, but they were Promoted under McGrath too, and made an All Ireland Quarter final.

Gallagher not even starting Tomas Corrigan. He is their top forward.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 05, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
So is it Down, Louth and Westmeath vacant so far?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 05, 2018, 09:12:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 05, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
Fermanagh haven't improved that much. They got to an Ulster final playing dogged defensive football, and were outclassed in the Ulster final. They got promoted in the League, but they were Promoted under McGrath too, and made an All Ireland Quarter final.

Gallagher not even starting Tomas Corrigan. He is their top forward.

Ah maybe I am being overly harsh on him, he is a true legend of the GAA regardless of what happens in his latter years of management.
Title: Things change with good results - not Everyone fancied the prospect of Mc stay!!
Post by: rrhf on July 05, 2018, 09:30:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
Evans not seeking the nomination to return to the sheep stealers in 2016.

He was to go before the delegates for rubber-stamping tonight. This really reeks. I'm genuinely shocked... the cabal in Ros town have a ready-made replacement...they have just made an absolute fûcking mess of our senior team. Really worried that this will shake out badly now.

Thanks to John Evans - not perfect but he did a lot of good things for us these past three years. Deserved better.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2018, 11:36:18 PM
McGleenan gone in Cavan
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 11, 2018, 11:36:45 PM
I hear McGleenan's jumping ship from Cyaavan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: regal on July 12, 2018, 09:48:34 AM
Mattie clearly recognising that Cavan's season in division 1 is going to be very demoralising
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Ourselves and Cavan will struggle to stay up next spring.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on July 12, 2018, 10:41:42 AM
Peter Donnelly being tipped to move back to Cavan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 12, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Ourselves and Cavan will struggle to stay up next spring.

Word on the street that Roch is going to walk the plank too..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 12, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 12, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Ourselves and Cavan will struggle to stay up next spring.

Word on the street that Roch is going to walk the plank too..

Fee counties will be watching that I'm sure, not for Rochford but to see what mcentee will do
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on July 12, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 12, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 12, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Ourselves and Cavan will struggle to stay up next spring.

Word on the street that Roch is going to walk the plank too..

Fee counties will be watching that I'm sure, not for Rochford but to see what mcentee will do

I'd say most counties would do well to have a man like Rochford in charge
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 12, 2018, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 12, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 12, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 12, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Ourselves and Cavan will struggle to stay up next spring.

Word on the street that Roch is going to walk the plank too..

Fee counties will be watching that I'm sure, not for Rochford but to see what mcentee will do

I'd say most counties would do well to have a man like Rochford in charge

0 trophies.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on July 12, 2018, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 12, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 12, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 12, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Ourselves and Cavan will struggle to stay up next spring.

Word on the street that Roch is going to walk the plank too..

Fee counties will be watching that I'm sure, not for Rochford but to see what mcentee will do

More like who can tempt Donie Buckley
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 20, 2018, 09:16:29 PM
Brendan Guickan stepped down as Leitrim manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 20, 2018, 11:19:39 PM
Rouse can't commit to Offaly either, one of the selectors should step up though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on July 20, 2018, 11:57:53 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 20, 2018, 11:19:39 PM
Rouse can't commit to Offaly either, one of the selectors should step up though.

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Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 21, 2018, 12:07:02 AM
Down , Louth, Westmeath, Cavan, Laythrum and Offaly definitely.
Mayowestros,  Sligo, Derry, Antrim, Wexford, Waterford, Clare possibly.
Ros.....?????
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 12:44:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2018, 12:07:02 AM
Down , Louth, Westmeath, Cavan, Laythrum and Offaly definitely.
Mayowestros,  Sligo, Derry, Antrim, Wexford, Waterford, Clare possibly.
Ros.....?????

Hahaha
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 21, 2018, 01:15:50 AM
Kildare more than likely too, O'Neill's term is up and he is rumoured to be taking on a new challenge.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 02:38:33 PM
I don't think we'd take McStay after last weekend. The one problem we have is defensive naivety and well.......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 02:38:33 PM
I don't think we'd take McStay after last weekend. The one problem we have is defensive naivety and well.......

Do you seriously think McStay would take ye if you asked?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: spuds on July 21, 2018, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 02:38:33 PM
I don't think we'd take McStay after last weekend. The one problem we have is defensive naivety and well.......

Do you seriously think McStay would take ye if you asked?
Do you expect him to be asked? He's being shown up badly today. Think he need a break. One of the good guys but remonstrating with linesman and refs disguising where the blame truly lies.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: under the bar on July 22, 2018, 04:46:22 PM
Quote from: spuds on July 21, 2018, 06:38:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 02:38:33 PM
I don't think we'd take McStay after last weekend. The one problem we have is defensive naivety and well.......

Do you seriously think McStay would take ye if you asked?
Do you expect him to be asked? He's being shown up badly today. Think he need a break. One of the good guys but remonstrating with linesman and refs disguising where the blame truly lies.

Roscommon parents not being able to breed decent footballers?? 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mac2 on July 24, 2018, 09:29:49 AM
Looks like Rochford's going to stay anyway.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/288250?county=National
Mayo's top official believes Stephen Rochford will stay on as senior football manager for a fourth term.

Rochford has two years left to run on an existing agreement and, speaking to the Western People, County Board chairman Mike Connelly revealed he expects the former Crossmolina player to commit to the cause for 2019.

The futures of trainer Donie Buckley and selector Peter Burke are less certain, however.

"We're giving Stephen the month to review his own situation," Connelly remarked.

"There's a lot of rumours that Donie Buckley isn't going to be there and maybe Peter Burke [too]. We haven't been told this but I presume that if that is happening, that [Stephen's] talking to whoever is remaining in his backroom and planning for next year.

"He was at the All-Ireland U20 semi-final in Carrick on Shannon so I presume he was there for more than one reason."
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 24, 2018, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on July 24, 2018, 09:29:49 AM
Looks like Rochford's going to stay anyway.
If Buckley leaves it should be interesting to see if a like for like replacement is brought in as he's the most important member on the Mayo management team IMO.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on July 24, 2018, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2018, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on July 24, 2018, 09:29:49 AM
Looks like Rochford's going to stay anyway.
If Buckley leaves it should be interesting to see if a like for like replacement is brought in as he's the most important member on the Mayo management team IMO.

Totally agree with this, hope to God he stays on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on July 24, 2018, 01:47:12 PM

Quote from: Syferus on July 21, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 02:38:33 PM
I don't think we'd take McStay after last weekend. The one problem we have is defensive naivety and well.......

Do you seriously think McStay would take ye if you asked?

You're putting the cart before the sheep there lad!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 24, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
Will our benefactor pay for Buckley as well as McStay/McHale?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 24, 2018, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
Will our benefactor pay for Buckley as well as McStay/McHale?
I doubt Roscommon could afford him. Didn't the Roscommon county board cut a big slice off what team McStay could spend in 2018?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on July 24, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/288250?county=National
Mayo's top official believes Stephen Rochford will stay on as senior football manager for a fourth term.

Rochford has two years left to run on an existing agreement and, speaking to the Western People, County Board chairman Mike Connelly revealed he expects the former Crossmolina player to commit to the cause for 2019.

The futures of trainer Donie Buckley and selector Peter Burke are less certain, however.

"We're giving Stephen the month to review his own situation," Connelly remarked.

"There's a lot of rumours that Donie Buckley isn't going to be there and maybe Peter Burke [too]. We haven't been told this but I presume that if that is happening, that [Stephen's] talking to whoever is remaining in his backroom and planning for next year.

"He was at the All-Ireland U20 semi-final in Carrick on Shannon so I presume he was there for more than one reason."

Is it a bit odd that the CB are putting "rumours" about the backroom team into the public domain? 🤔
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on July 25, 2018, 08:46:00 AM
Down- would the Mulholland / Poacher ticket be a popular choice?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton steps down as Longford manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 25, 2018, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton steps down as Longford manager

What is the reason for that? He had them going in the right direction I thought.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:31:10 PM
Personal reasons. Off to Dubai to teach AFAIK.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 25, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/288250?county=National
Mayo's top official believes Stephen Rochford will stay on as senior football manager for a fourth term.

Rochford has two years left to run on an existing agreement and, speaking to the Western People, County Board chairman Mike Connelly revealed he expects the former Crossmolina player to commit to the cause for 2019.

The futures of trainer Donie Buckley and selector Peter Burke are less certain, however.

"We're giving Stephen the month to review his own situation," Connelly remarked.

"There's a lot of rumours that Donie Buckley isn't going to be there and maybe Peter Burke [too]. We haven't been told this but I presume that if that is happening, that [Stephen's] talking to whoever is remaining in his backroom and planning for next year.

"He was at the All-Ireland U20 semi-final in Carrick on Shannon so I presume he was there for more than one reason."

Is it a bit odd that the CB are putting "rumours" about the backroom team into the public domain? 🤔

McEntee rumoured to be leaving too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 25, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:31:10 PM
Personal reasons. Off to Dubai to teach AFAIK.

Oh right, hopefully you get a decent replacement as I like Longford.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 25, 2018, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 25, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 24, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 09:48:16 AM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/288250?county=National
Mayo's top official believes Stephen Rochford will stay on as senior football manager for a fourth term.

Rochford has two years left to run on an existing agreement and, speaking to the Western People, County Board chairman Mike Connelly revealed he expects the former Crossmolina player to commit to the cause for 2019.

The futures of trainer Donie Buckley and selector Peter Burke are less certain, however.

"We're giving Stephen the month to review his own situation," Connelly remarked.

"There's a lot of rumours that Donie Buckley isn't going to be there and maybe Peter Burke [too]. We haven't been told this but I presume that if that is happening, that [Stephen's] talking to whoever is remaining in his backroom and planning for next year.

"He was at the All-Ireland U20 semi-final in Carrick on Shannon so I presume he was there for more than one reason."

Is it a bit odd that the CB are putting "rumours" about the backroom team into the public domain? 🤔

McEntee rumoured to be leaving too.

He appears to have been an incredible waste of money.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 25, 2018, 11:41:04 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton steps down as Longford manager
I presume ye'll be calling to a certain Garda in Boyle? ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 25, 2018, 11:42:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:31:10 PM
Personal reasons. Off to Dubai to teach AFAIK.
I highly doubt it
He's a retired principal
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on July 25, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
It was expected that connerton was stepping down. Mickey Graham will likely be in the frame.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 26, 2018, 12:01:06 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 25, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
It was expected that connerton was stepping down. Mickey Graham will likely be in the frame.

Sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhh. Don't let Laureleye hear this!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Westside on July 26, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 26, 2018, 12:01:06 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 25, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
It was expected that connerton was stepping down. Mickey Graham will likely be in the frame.

Sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhh. Don't let Laureleye hear this!

Not a fan?

I hope he takes over Longford because if he doesn't he could well end up in the Cavan job. I know lads who played under him at Club level. Not impressive at all.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 26, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Quote from: Westside on July 26, 2018, 09:14:20 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 26, 2018, 12:01:06 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 25, 2018, 11:56:30 PM
It was expected that connerton was stepping down. Mickey Graham will likely be in the frame.

Sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhh. Don't let Laureleye hear this!

Not a fan?

I hope he takes over Longford because if he doesn't he could well end up in the Cavan job. I know lads who played under him at Club level. Not impressive at all.

Christ no - the complete opposite. Graham is doing great things with Laurel's club, St. Columbas Mullinalaghta, so he'd be unwilling to see him depart. Strange that the Cavan lads not impressed. Seems that prophets are never appreciated in their own lands, to paraphrase the Lord himself.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: five points on July 26, 2018, 09:44:38 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 26, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
Christ no - the complete opposite. Graham is doing great things with Laurel's club, St. Columbas Mullinalaghta, so he'd be unwilling to see him depart. Strange that the Cavan lads not impressed. Seems that prophets are never appreciated in their own lands, to paraphrase the Lord himself.

Mickey's tenure as Cavan minor manager didn't go particularly well, to put it mildly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
At present, Cavan , Leitrim, Westmeath , Offaly, Longford are all looking for a new  senior management team , while I personally expect Roscommon and Kevin Mc Stay to part ways. With few capable candidates out there , there will be frantic maneuverings by county chairpersons to nab the "ideal man" . It''ll be the manager dictating the terms and conditions. Micky Graham will possibly be the bookies favourite  , while Frank Mc Namee will have his supporters . Don't rule out a move for Banty !!! although rumour has him linked to Cavan
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
At present, Cavan , Leitrim, Westmeath , Offaly, Longford are all looking for a new  senior management team , while I personally expect Roscommon and Kevin Mc Stay to part ways. With few capable candidates out there , there will be frantic maneuverings by county chairpersons to nab the "ideal man" . It''ll be the manager dictating the terms and conditions. Micky Graham will possibly be the bookies favourite  , while Frank Mc Namee will have his supporters . Don't rule out a move for Banty !!! although rumour has him linked to Cavan

It's already been confirmed McStay is staying on in today's Roscommon People. Makes fools out of those outside the county and people like Rossfan inside it that seriously thought there was any chance of him going.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 26, 2018, 05:52:27 PM
If I was getting €XXX I'd probably have neck enough to stay too.
He's failed the players badly but hopefully he can see the error of his ways and 12 months too late try and rectify the situation.
And by the way immature childeen as a long time Ros supporter I al ways want the manager to be a success.
But I don't climb up their rear ends.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 06:26:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2018, 05:52:27 PM
If I was getting €XXX I'd probably have neck enough to stay too.
He's failed the players badly but hopefully he can see the error of his ways and 12 months too late try and rectify the situation.
And by the way immature childeen as a long time Ros supporter I al ways want the manager to be a success.
But I don't climb up their rear ends.

D1 semis, D2 title, at least three seasons in D1, Nestor, first ever back-to-back AIQFs - some failing!

Tough shít, you called McStay completely incorrectly with a series of pathetically snide and demeaning posts over three years. Time to show some humility and admit you read the tea leaves wrong. Even Gay had the sense to shut up after last year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2018, 11:41:04 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 25, 2018, 09:19:26 PM
Denis Connerton steps down as Longford manager
I presume ye'll be calling to a certain Garda in Boyle? ;)
For the unimformed who might that be
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 26, 2018, 06:58:11 PM
Fergal O'Donnell.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
Thought he was in the Bank, hasn't really done it with Killoe who by rights should have Larry Moran, Mark Hughes , Cian Farrelly in with the county along with the 2 Mc Cormack's , Quinn and Mimnagh . Might just be that in any other era than against the present St Columba's team they would be the ones who would be piling up the titles . Unlike St Columba's , Killoe Og have a constant flow of underage players coming along most years . Had 6 U-17's in action against Dublin in the recent Leinster Shield competition although strangely had only 1 with the U-20 team as a sub in the final game
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
Thought he was in the Bank, hasn't really done it with Killoe who by rights should have Larry Moran, Mark Hughes , Cian Farrelly in with the county along with the 2 Mc Cormack's , Quinn and Mimnagh . Might just be that in any other era than against the present St Columba's team they would be the ones who would be piling up the titles . Unlike St Columba's , Killoe Og have a constant flow of underage players coming along most years . Had 6 U-17's in action against Dublin in the recent Leinster Shield competition although strangely had only 1 with the U-20 team as a sub in the final game

Ya can't make gold from clay. I'd doubt Longford CB would be willing to give FOD the control he would ask for so they'll just go with another safe, boring appointment that will keep them spinning in place.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2018, 08:52:43 AM
Backroom merry-go-round happening in Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 31, 2018, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
Quote from: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 07:13:00 PM
Thought he was in the Bank, hasn't really done it with Killoe who by rights should have Larry Moran, Mark Hughes , Cian Farrelly in with the county along with the 2 Mc Cormack's , Quinn and Mimnagh . Might just be that in any other era than against the present St Columba's team they would be the ones who would be piling up the titles . Unlike St Columba's , Killoe Og have a constant flow of underage players coming along most years . Had 6 U-17's in action against Dublin in the recent Leinster Shield competition although strangely had only 1 with the U-20 team as a sub in the final game

Ya can't make gold from clay. I'd doubt Longford CB would be willing to give FOD the control he would ask for so they'll just go with another safe, boring appointment that will keep them spinning in place.

Word is that Longford will offer the job to Cavan man Mickey Graham who has been doing great work with Mullinalaghta in the past years. Complication is that Mickey is also a candidate for the Cavan job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 02, 2018, 06:24:23 PM
I know it's only hurley shtuff  but Tipp hurling manager  Mick Ryan and his backroom team have stepped down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on August 03, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
http://www.the42.ie/cathal-corey-sligo-football-manager-steps-down-4162751-Aug2018/

I see Cathal Corey has called it a day, i thought he did a decent job and gave some young lads a chance.  My guess is one of:
an Eamon Ohara/ Gerry Mcgowan combo ( or one of them)
Jim McGuinness
James Horan
Fergal from Roscommon

Might be time for a home manager, last time we had one we won a Connacht title......

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on August 03, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
http://www.the42.ie/cathal-corey-sligo-football-manager-steps-down-4162751-Aug2018/

I see Cathal Corey has called it a day, i thought he did a decent job and gave some young lads a chance.  My guess is one of:
an Eamon Ohara/ Gerry Mcgowan combo ( or one of them)
Jim McGuinness
James Horan
Fergal from Roscommon

Might be time for a home manager, last time we had one we won a Connacht title......

You thought he did a good job? Didn't most of his staff quit half way through the season? Ye blew yer chance at FOD last year. The idea Horan or McGuiness would be interested is frankly laughable too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 03, 2018, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on August 03, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
http://www.the42.ie/cathal-corey-sligo-football-manager-steps-down-4162751-Aug2018/

I see Cathal Corey has called it a day, i thought he did a decent job and gave some young lads a chance.  My guess is one of:
an Eamon Ohara/ Gerry Mcgowan combo ( or one of them)
Jim McGuinness
James Horan
Fergal from Roscommon

Might be time for a home manager, last time we had one we won a Connacht title......

Suprised after only 1 year. Did he get pushed?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 03, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
Sligo's record this year Played 14 Won 4 Drew 2 Lost 8. Wins against Leitrim in the FBD, Wexford,Derry at home in the NFL and v London in the championship. Only just avoided relegation to Div 4 and their manner of defeat to Galway was one of their worst ever defeats in Connacht.

Its probably for the best that Sligo go with someone more local now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 03, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
It seems to have been a bit of a disaster alright.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 03, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
It seems to have been a bit of a disaster alright.

Depends how you look at it. New manager trying to embed a new system while at the same time bringing in a load of young players. Sligos captain is only 21 or 22 i think. The county board were probably right to set sustaining Div 3 as a target. Galway were always going to be way to strong for Sligo. They will probably be most annoyed about the tame defeat to Armagh. Is that enough of a reason to part ways after 1 year?

Reading the press release it looks like manager himself walked as the release more or less said all goals were met this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 03, 2018, 04:32:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 03, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
It seems to have been a bit of a disaster alright.

Depends how you look at it. New manager trying to embed a new system while at the same time bringing in a load of young players. Sligos captain is only 21 or 22 i think. The county board were probably right to set sustaining Div 3 as a target. Galway were always going to be way to strong for Sligo. They will probably be most annoyed about the tame defeat to Armagh. Is that enough of a reason to part ways after 1 year?

Reading the press release it looks like manager himself walked as the release more or less said all goals were met this year.
Does anyone seriously believe that their goals for the year was just staying up in a poor Division three and beating London in the championship?

I seen Sligo twice this year against Armagh. They have plenty of good players but as a group they are so poorly coached and managed that they were basically like headless chickens running around the field. Galway I agree were always going to be too strong for Sligo however they lost by 21 points and conceded 4-24 its when defeats like that become acceptable that problems becomes even worse for counties like Sligo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on August 03, 2018, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 03, 2018, 02:12:42 PM
Sligo's record this year Played 14 Won 4 Drew 2 Lost 8. Wins against Leitrim in the FBD, Wexford,Derry at home in the NFL and v London in the championship. Only just avoided relegation to Div 4 and their manner of defeat to Galway was one of their worst ever defeats in Connacht.

Its probably for the best that Sligo go with someone more local now.

Good stats blow it up.  On the positive side the breakdown of the losses are as follows

Loss v Div 1 teams 3 Galway *2 and mayo
Loss v promoted div 2 team 1 Ross
Loss v promoted div 3 teams 3 Armagh *2 and Fermanagh
Loss v div 3 teams 1 Westmeath
Win v div 3 teams 2 (both in div 4 next year)
Win v div 4 teams 2

Obviously not great but there is some good young lads coming up...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
For me the minimum was Div3 status and beat London but this team was capable of more, the manner of how we stayed up wasn't pretty, the manner of our defeat to Galway and Armagh have to be considered.

There was lots of negatives behind the scenes too, that transferred to the pitch, his whole approach was poor, out of his depth. I'm glad he is gone.

Our CB are so poor I don't know what they will come up with next. No self-respecting outside manager will come to us. O Hara/McGowan could be anything from a disaster to great imo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2018, 11:54:41 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
For me the minimum was Div3 status and beat London but this team was capable of more, the manner of how we stayed up wasn't pretty, the manner of our defeat to Galway and Armagh have to be considered.

There was lots of negatives behind the scenes too, that transferred to the pitch, his whole approach was poor, out of his depth. I'm glad he is gone.

Our CB are so poor I don't know what they will come up with next. No self-respecting outside manager will come to us. O Hara/McGowan could be anything from a disaster to great imo.

Tanned Emmo was a bit of a diaster in Ballagh. Tactics like he read Mickey Harte's playbook transcribed on the back of a Corn Flakes box.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 04, 2018, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 03, 2018, 04:32:32 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 03, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2018, 02:47:19 PM
It seems to have been a bit of a disaster alright.

Depends how you look at it. New manager trying to embed a new system while at the same time bringing in a load of young players. Sligos captain is only 21 or 22 i think. The county board were probably right to set sustaining Div 3 as a target. Galway were always going to be way to strong for Sligo. They will probably be most annoyed about the tame defeat to Armagh. Is that enough of a reason to part ways after 1 year?

Reading the press release it looks like manager himself walked as the release more or less said all goals were met this year.
Does anyone seriously believe that their goals for the year was just staying up in a poor Division three and beating London in the championship?

I seen Sligo twice this year against Armagh. They have plenty of good players but as a group they are so poorly coached and managed that they were basically like headless chickens running around the field. Galway I agree were always going to be too strong for Sligo however they lost by 21 points and conceded 4-24 its when defeats like that become acceptable that problems becomes even worse for counties like Sligo.

You could l d say the same about Armagh under mcgeeney in his first couple of years!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on August 04, 2018, 08:48:50 PM
Eamon Fitz stepped down as Kerry manager after the game.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
It appears that Paidi O'Se was correct about the Kerry supporters when he labelled them f***ing animals based on what Eamon Fitzmaurice has revealed about the hate mail and abuse that he received. No manager should have to endure that level of abuse and particularly due to the fact that he was not getting paid unlike the vast majority of other county managers who do not come under anywhere near the same level of scrutiny.

That said the kerry job is still a very enticing position for any manager given the conveyor belt of talent that they have coming through and the fact that Dublin will at some point in the next year or two will begin regressing.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 07, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
It appears that Paidi O'Se was correct about the Kerry supporters when he labelled them f***ing animals based on what Eamon Fitzmaurice has revealed about the hate mail and abuse that he received. No manager should have to endure that level of abuse and particularly due to the fact that he was not getting paid unlike the vast majority of other county managers who do not come under anywhere near the same level of scrutiny.

That said the kerry job is still a very enticing position for any manager given the conveyor belt of talent that they have coming through and the fact that Dublin will at some point in the next year or two will begin regressing.   

Sport evokes a lot of passion people go over the top, he knew what he was getting into.  If you are thin skinned it's not the job for you. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on August 07, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
It appears that Paidi O'Se was correct about the Kerry supporters when he labelled them f***ing animals based on what Eamon Fitzmaurice has revealed about the hate mail and abuse that he received. No manager should have to endure that level of abuse and particularly due to the fact that he was not getting paid unlike the vast majority of other county managers who do not come under anywhere near the same level of scrutiny.

That said the kerry job is still a very enticing position for any manager given the conveyor belt of talent that they have coming through and the fact that Dublin will at some point in the next year or two will begin regressing.   

Sport evokes a lot of passion people go over the top, he knew what he was getting into.  If you are thin skinned it's not the job for you.

Passion is fine but what sort of an individual takes the time to sit down and write a letter having a pop at a manager. Passion in the spur of the moment is par for the course but writing hate mail is crossing the line. Then you have the recent advent of social media to have to deal with.

Any manager that is getting well paid is fair game as far as I am concerned but Fitzmaurice was not getting paid money for the job and always seemed to handle himself well. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 07, 2018, 09:39:15 PM
You have to remember that Kerry lost to Mayo and Galway in Championship the last two years. That is seen as embarrassing in Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 07, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on August 07, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
It appears that Paidi O'Se was correct about the Kerry supporters when he labelled them f***ing animals based on what Eamon Fitzmaurice has revealed about the hate mail and abuse that he received. No manager should have to endure that level of abuse and particularly due to the fact that he was not getting paid unlike the vast majority of other county managers who do not come under anywhere near the same level of scrutiny.

That said the kerry job is still a very enticing position for any manager given the conveyor belt of talent that they have coming through and the fact that Dublin will at some point in the next year or two will begin regressing.   

Sport evokes a lot of passion people go over the top, he knew what he was getting into.  If you are thin skinned it's not the job for you.

Passion is fine but what sort of an individual takes the time to sit down and write a letter having a pop at a manager. Passion in the spur of the moment is par for the course but writing hate mail is crossing the line. Then you have the recent advent of social media to have to deal with.

Any manager that is getting well paid is fair game as far as I am concerned but Fitzmaurice was not getting paid money for the job and always seemed to handle himself well.

I'd  like to see these letters.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:52:55 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 07, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on August 07, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
It appears that Paidi O'Se was correct about the Kerry supporters when he labelled them f***ing animals based on what Eamon Fitzmaurice has revealed about the hate mail and abuse that he received. No manager should have to endure that level of abuse and particularly due to the fact that he was not getting paid unlike the vast majority of other county managers who do not come under anywhere near the same level of scrutiny.

That said the kerry job is still a very enticing position for any manager given the conveyor belt of talent that they have coming through and the fact that Dublin will at some point in the next year or two will begin regressing.   

Sport evokes a lot of passion people go over the top, he knew what he was getting into.  If you are thin skinned it's not the job for you.

Passion is fine but what sort of an individual takes the time to sit down and write a letter having a pop at a manager. Passion in the spur of the moment is par for the course but writing hate mail is crossing the line. Then you have the recent advent of social media to have to deal with.

Any manager that is getting well paid is fair game as far as I am concerned but Fitzmaurice was not getting paid money for the job and always seemed to handle himself well.

Is like to see these letters.

Apparently one of them told a Kerry player to 'jump off a cliff'.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 08, 2018, 01:54:48 AM
James Horan the latest to come out and say he got hate mail. Some awful idiots around  http://www.offtheball.com/GAA/James-Horan-received-concerning-hate-mail-during-Mayo-tenure-
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 01:57:34 AM
Is literally anyone surprised? Look at the attempted character assasinations of every public figure in the GAA on this very forum.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NetNitrate on August 08, 2018, 02:59:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 01:57:34 AM
Is literally anyone surprised? Look at the attempted character assasinations of every public figure in the GAA on this very forum.

You should look at your own comments. One of the most revolting descriptions I ever saw was you describing a Mayo forward with these terms: "They don't play it at the speed of a paraplegic with a hangover".
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
Quote from: NetNitrate on August 08, 2018, 02:59:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 01:57:34 AM
Is literally anyone surprised? Look at the attempted character assasinations of every public figure in the GAA on this very forum.

You should look at your own comments. One of the most revolting descriptions I ever saw was you describing a Mayo forward with these terms: "They don't play it at the speed of a paraplegic with a hangover".

I think that was a great line actually, glad it stuck in your head.

Never said I was immune from it but I don't engage in the character assassinations some here do, JP and Duffy excepted. Colourfully critiquing a slow forward is something different entirely.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NetNitrate on August 08, 2018, 03:09:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 03:03:59 AM
Quote from: NetNitrate on August 08, 2018, 02:59:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 01:57:34 AM
Is literally anyone surprised? Look at the attempted character assasinations of every public figure in the GAA on this very forum.

You should look at your own comments. One of the most revolting descriptions I ever saw was you describing a Mayo forward with these terms: "They don't play it at the speed of a paraplegic with a hangover".

I think that was a great line actually, glad it stuck in your head.

Never said I was immune from it but I don't engage in the character assassinations some here do, JP and Duffy excepted. Colourfully critiquing a slow forward is something different entirely.

Well if you don't see how awful it is on so many levels, I'm afraid there is no reasoning. But if you have to bring brain affliction and spinal injuries to have a go at a Mayo player's pace, it's very troublesome that you think that's a great line.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on August 08, 2018, 03:47:27 AM
Eamonn  Fitzmsurice is a typical North Kerry back and isn't thin skinned.  He has the same job as myself but much younger, so deal woth him a little and to say He is disgusted with  the shit thrown at him over the past 2 years is an understatement,  and this is a manager in the old school volunteer diehard brigade.  What woukd the anonymous etter writers  saying if he was on 75k s year expenses like some Others who arent delivering a whole pile

Fitzy prepared well, selected poorly at times, probably listened to tyevwrong voice on the sideline but he threw everything into the role..... and the best young talent seen in years almost got him to another semi final
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 09, 2018, 10:11:44 PM
Terry Hyland the new Leitrim manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
They moved fair quick.
At least he'll get to watch a good scatter of club games.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 09, 2018, 10:47:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 09, 2018, 10:11:44 PM
Terry Hyland the new Leitrim manager

Excellent appointment for Leitrim
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
They moved fair quick.
At least he'll get to watch a good scatter of club games.

Must be disappointing for you to watch hiring and firing season in full swing and you not able to rouse the troops for a push on McStay at all.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 09, 2018, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
They moved fair quick.
At least he'll get to watch a good scatter of club games.
Only 20 days it took them to appoint a new manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 11:49:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
They moved fair quick.
At least he'll get to watch a good scatter of club games.

Must be disappointing for you to watch hiring and firing season in full swing and you not able to rouse the troops for a push on McStay at all.
Do you have to bring  McStay into every thread. Just come out of his fkn arse and see what a disappointment  he's been.


P. S I haven't got any "troops"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 11:49:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
They moved fair quick.
At least he'll get to watch a good scatter of club games.

Must be disappointing for you to watch hiring and firing season in full swing and you not able to rouse the troops for a push on McStay at all.
Do you have to bring  McStay into every thread. Just come out of his fkn arse and see what a disappointment  he's been.


P. S I haven't got any "troops"

That was my point.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Westside on August 10, 2018, 01:10:40 PM
Would have rathered see Terry take up the Cavan Minor job but it looks like he feels he has something to offer at a higher level. He's done well in all his managerial roles, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get some sort of kick out of Leitrim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2018, 03:26:02 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 10, 2018, 01:10:40 PM
Would have rathered see Terry take up the Cavan Minor job but it looks like he feels he has something to offer at a higher level. He's done well in all his managerial roles, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get some sort of kick out of Leitrim.

Maybe in D4..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on August 10, 2018, 07:53:48 PM
Given they are in  Div 4 Syferus thats his starting point surely
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 10, 2018, 10:54:32 PM
Nobody has managed to do better at Cavan than him since he left anyway and he built a strong enough team there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 10, 2018, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 10, 2018, 07:53:48 PM
Given they are in  Div 4 Syferus thats his starting point surely

Lad don't bother, you are addressing a fool.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2018, 11:45:33 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 10, 2018, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 10, 2018, 07:53:48 PM
Given they are in  Div 4 Syferus thats his starting point surely

Lad don't bother, you are addressing a fool.

I know things didn't even well with Hyland but that's a bit OTT, Scratch.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 13, 2018, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

He was very quick to announce this after Jimmy McGuinness was linked this morning maybe just a pure coincidence.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.

He has had a good look up close at Dublin. It's a daunting sight. Hard to see where he can bring this group.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on August 13, 2018, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 13, 2018, 09:11:46 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

He was very quick to announce this after Jimmy McGuinness was linked this morning maybe just a pure coincidence.

It's been well known for the last 2 weeks at least that Rochford was staying on. Don't know who puts these rumours out there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 13, 2018, 09:37:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.

Angling for more funds/control.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.

He has had a good look up close at Dublin. It's a daunting sight. Hard to see where he can bring this group.
To All Ireland final so along as they avoid Dublin in the semi final?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.

He has had a good look up close at Dublin. It's a daunting sight. Hard to see where he can bring this group.
To All Ireland final so along as they avoid Dublin in the semi final?

A 50/50 chance of that. Also there are counties Like Donegal, Tyrone, Monaghan, Kerry, Mayo, Kildare, even Meath who might get in the way.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 11:13:54 AM
Looks like Tally for Down

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/tyrone-man-tally-favourite-to-become-new-down-boss-862484.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Halfquarter on August 16, 2018, 11:19:34 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.

He has had a good look up close at Dublin. It's a daunting sight. Hard to see where he can bring this group.
To All Ireland final so along as they avoid Dublin in the semi final?

Isn't That everyone's ambition, avoid Dublin, hope to get to the final, then hope for an off day by Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 16, 2018, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on August 16, 2018, 11:19:34 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 09:25:00 PM
I see Kevin Walsh was somewhat non committal about his future.

He has had a good look up close at Dublin. It's a daunting sight. Hard to see where he can bring this group.
To All Ireland final so along as they avoid Dublin in the semi final?

Isn't That everyone's ambition, avoid Dublin, hope to get to the final, then hope for an off day by Dublin.
Dublin didn't have many on days in All Ireland finals yet. 

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: straightred on August 16, 2018, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing

Yeah - i suspect this story could simmer for a while. Who leaked the McGuinness story and why? It doesn't even have to be McGuinness. It could be anyone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 16, 2018, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
The only doubt on Rochford not staying was that he would walk away himself like Buckley did. County board chairman Mike Connelly a weeks ago has already given his view on how Rochford should manage the team in 2019.


Quote
"If you look at that Kildare game, guys towards the last ten or fifteen minutes were dead on their feet. The weather conditions didn't suit our age profile either, but we definitely need to bring youth to the table," said Connelly.

"At this stage, we've a lot of players the wrong side of 30 and we have to be looking towards the future, we have to be developing young players and if that means struggling in Division 1… we've got to start building again, that's my view. I'm sure Stephen will identify with that."
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Our buck announced that he's staying  in the "Down the Hatch News" before he was suspended.
No word from our (non) Co Board.
I see his apologist in the Ros Herald blames the players in his end of year State of the County team report.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Our buck announced that he's staying  in the "Down the Hatch News" before he was suspended.
No word from our (non) Co Board.
I see his apologist in the Ros Herald blames the players in his end of year State of the County team report.

Don't expect any criticism of the management from our local press.
Love the line the players "must ask themselves why they're shipping outrageous scorelines against the top teams."
I do hope the players ask themselves that question and send a note back to Mr. Cooney in the Herald and ask him to rephrase the question in a number of ways: why has the management not set up any discernible defensive structure after 3 years, why does the management persist with small light forwards as backs and why the hell is Cooney not asking McStay that question instead of the players.


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 16, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Our buck announced that he's staying  in the "Down the Hatch News" before he was suspended.
No word from our (non) Co Board.
I see his apologist in the Ros Herald blames the players in his end of year State of the County team report.

Don't expect any criticism of the management from our local press.
Love the line the players "must ask themselves why they're shipping outrageous scorelines against the top teams."
I do hope the players ask themselves that question and send a note back to Mr. Cooney in the Herald and ask him to rephrase the question in a number of ways: why has the management not set up any discernible defensive structure after 3 years, why does the management persist with small light forwards as backs and why the hell is Cooney not asking McStay that question instead of the players.

It sucks when nearly everyone else in the county is against your 'McStay OUT!!' campaign, right?

Might be time to cut your loses and back the team and management.. even Gay isn't going around sounding off this year.

Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the fallacy of Roscommon being a county filled with talent being oppressed by a bad manager is an 'apologist'. I do hope the players are a tad more accountable and circumspect than you are being in their steed. Everyone, management and players, share in our failings and our successes this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Our buck announced that he's staying  in the "Down the Hatch News" before he was suspended.
No word from our (non) Co Board.
I see his apologist in the Ros Herald blames the players in his end of year State of the County team report.

Don't expect any criticism of the management from our local press.
Love the line the players "must ask themselves why they're shipping outrageous scorelines against the top teams."
I do hope the players ask themselves that question and send a note back to Mr. Cooney in the Herald and ask him to rephrase the question in a number of ways: why has the management not set up any discernible defensive structure after 3 years, why does the management persist with small light forwards as backs and why the hell is Cooney not asking McStay that question instead of the players.
I've read it again and am getting madder by the second.
Fcuk sake talking about players "aren't buying into"  S&C. FFS since when did players get to decide what preparations they do.
Then the comment that Ros players seem to believe that their skills and flair can overcome superior conditioning of other teams.
Then he repeats McStay's sh1te about the Ros public might not come out and watch 15 players behind the ball.
Defending doesn't have to be 15 lads standing around their own D area doing nothing.
How about every man becomes a defender when the opposition has the ball and tackle harass etc whoever has the ball wherever they gave it.
It's like the article was written for Cooney  by one of the people who got McStay the gig and is trying to head the critics off at the pass.
Disgraceful arse licking so called journalism.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 16, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Our buck announced that he's staying  in the "Down the Hatch News" before he was suspended.
No word from our (non) Co Board.
I see his apologist in the Ros Herald blames the players in his end of year State of the County team report.

Don't expect any criticism of the management from our local press.
Love the line the players "must ask themselves why they're shipping outrageous scorelines against the top teams."
I do hope the players ask themselves that question and send a note back to Mr. Cooney in the Herald and ask him to rephrase the question in a number of ways: why has the management not set up any discernible defensive structure after 3 years, why does the management persist with small light forwards as backs and why the hell is Cooney not asking McStay that question instead of the players.

It sucks when nearly everyone else in the county is against your 'McStay OUT!!' campaign, right?

Might be time to cut your loses and back the team and management.. even Gay isn't going around sounding off this year.

Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the fallacy of Roscommon being a county filled with talent being oppressed by a bad manager is an 'apologist'. I do hope the players are a tad more accountable and circumspect than you are being in their steed. Everyone, management and players, share in our failings and our successes this year.

You were very vocal when there was an article in Herald quoting Dineen blaming the players for the 2014 U21 loss. Sorry if it seems a bit off when the Herald lays the blame on the players and not the management. If you were consistent you would have a problem with the balance of that article too. I always support the players and management no matter who is in charge and have renewed my gold membership for the 4th year in a row. I will support McStay next year as I have Carr, Maughan, Evans and plenty of other managers I found fault with. It doesn't mean I will not call it as it is and ask the hard questions our local press will never ask.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 06:36:32 PM
I always want our manager to be madly successful.
However I'm ould enough to know sh1te when I see it and am not impressed by spin and/or hype or one sided nonsense.
Results, scorelines, performances,  team organisation etc -that's what impresses .

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 17, 2018, 12:47:21 PM
Mickey Graham it seems will be announced as Cavan manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on August 17, 2018, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 16, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 16, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 13, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Has been confirmed that Stephen Rochford is staying on as Mayo manager.

No it hasn't - theres been no meeting between the CB and Rochford yet, Rochford has said he's staying for another year - different thing
Our buck announced that he's staying  in the "Down the Hatch News" before he was suspended.
No word from our (non) Co Board.
I see his apologist in the Ros Herald blames the players in his end of year State of the County team report.

Don't expect any criticism of the management from our local press.
Love the line the players "must ask themselves why they're shipping outrageous scorelines against the top teams."
I do hope the players ask themselves that question and send a note back to Mr. Cooney in the Herald and ask him to rephrase the question in a number of ways: why has the management not set up any discernible defensive structure after 3 years, why does the management persist with small light forwards as backs and why the hell is Cooney not asking McStay that question instead of the players.

It sucks when nearly everyone else in the county is against your 'McStay OUT!!' campaign, right?

Might be time to cut your loses and back the team and management.. even Gay isn't going around sounding off this year.

Anyone who doesn't subscribe to the fallacy of Roscommon being a county filled with talent being oppressed by a bad manager is an 'apologist'. I do hope the players are a tad more accountable and circumspect than you are being in their steed. Everyone, management and players, share in our failings and our successes this year.

You were very vocal when there was an article in Herald quoting Dineen blaming the players for the 2014 U21 loss. Sorry if it seems a bit off when the Herald lays the blame on the players and not the management. If you were consistent you would have a problem with the balance of that article too. I always support the players and management no matter who is in charge and have renewed my gold membership for the 4th year in a row. I will support McStay next year as I have Carr, Maughan, Evans and plenty of other managers I found fault with. It doesn't mean I will not call it as it is and ask the hard questions our local press will never ask.

Theres a difference between the manager blaming the players and a local journalist blaming the players.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 17, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 17, 2018, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:38:14 PM

You were very vocal when there was an article in Herald quoting Dineen blaming the players for the 2014 U21 loss. Sorry if it seems a bit off when the Herald lays the blame on the players and not the management. If you were consistent you would have a problem with the balance of that article too. I always support the players and management no matter who is in charge and have renewed my gold membership for the 4th year in a row. I will support McStay next year as I have Carr, Maughan, Evans and plenty of other managers I found fault with. It doesn't mean I will not call it as it is and ask the hard questions our local press will never ask.

Theres a difference between the manager blaming the players and a local journalist blaming the players.

Well yes I know that. It's still the players that are getting thrown under the bus (no pun intended) for what clearly are management failings (eg our defensive structure) and a local media that appear afraid to rock the boat. Our county board issued press releases apologising to Mayo and Andy Morgan and another to plamás the Connacht Council. I await a defense of our players who do all this for nothing. I won't be buying the Ros Herald again. As for the other one, it's free and that is still to much.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 17, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 17, 2018, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 16, 2018, 05:38:14 PM

You were very vocal when there was an article in Herald quoting Dineen blaming the players for the 2014 U21 loss. Sorry if it seems a bit off when the Herald lays the blame on the players and not the management. If you were consistent you would have a problem with the balance of that article too. I always support the players and management no matter who is in charge and have renewed my gold membership for the 4th year in a row. I will support McStay next year as I have Carr, Maughan, Evans and plenty of other managers I found fault with. It doesn't mean I will not call it as it is and ask the hard questions our local press will never ask.

Theres a difference between the manager blaming the players and a local journalist blaming the players.

Well yes I know that. It's still the players that are getting thrown under the bus (no pun intended) for what clearly are management failings (eg our defensive structure) and a local media that appear afraid to rock the boat. Our county board issued press releases apologising to Mayo and Andy Morgan and another to plamás the Connacht Council. I await a defense of our players who do all this for nothing. I won't be buying the Ros Herald again. As for the other one, it's free and that is still to much.

Just because some have the good sense not to start throwing their toys out of the pram because we're not at the level of the top two teams in the country it doesn't mean they're afraid of anyone. Best. Manager. In. 25 Years.

You have an agenda that's been exposed for being totally self-serving for a while now. Whether you accept it or not it's you that's producing the pointless propaganda and not Ian Cooney or anyone else.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 17, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Best. Manager. In. 25 Years.

If nothing else, thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 17, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Best. Manager. In. 25 Years.

If nothing else, thanks for the laugh.
:D ;D :D
Best paid anyway.
Probably 3rd best manager we've had this decade.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 18, 2018, 01:51:21 PM
Mickey Graham confirmed for Cavan with Dermott McCabe in his backroom and vinny corrys brother as S&C coach.  Best of luck to them
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: weareros on August 17, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Best. Manager. In. 25 Years.

If nothing else, thanks for the laugh.
:D ;D :D
Best paid anyway.
Probably 3rd best manager we've had this decade.

Just curious who are the two better
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 04:38:28 PM
Hint for you - not Des Newton.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2018, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 04:38:28 PM
Hint for you - not Des Newton.

If nothing else, thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 05:21:55 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 04:38:28 PM
Hint for you - not Des Newton.

What's the rationale for thinking Evans and o'donnell done better.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 05:26:45 PM
Poorer sets of players
And
4-24
4-24
4-12
4-19
And I forget the scores from March 2017...didn't Dublin get 2-32 or thereabouts.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2018, 05:35:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 05:26:45 PM
Poorer sets of players
And
4-24
4-24
4-12
4-19
And I forget the scores from March 2017...didn't Dublin get 2-32 or thereabouts.

FOD had underage AI winners.. Evans didn't win a single game of consequence in the championship bar Cavan, a team we can't seem to lose to no matter what.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 05:26:45 PM
Poorer sets of players
And
4-24
4-24
4-12
4-19
And I forget the scores from March 2017...didn't Dublin get 2-32 or thereabouts.

You have a manager who didn’t make a Connacht final but won d2 and another who was in 3 beat Sligo to win a Connacht final and D1 semi I’ve a manager won d2, D1 semi l, 3 Connacht finals 1 win beat Galway.

A rationale based on scores conceded is a better barometer however.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 06:34:02 PM

Scores conceded lose matches ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 06:34:02 PM

Scores conceded lose matches ;)

Wonderful incorrect insight as usual.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on August 18, 2018, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 05:26:45 PM
Poorer sets of players
And
4-24
4-24
4-12
4-19
And I forget the scores from March 2017...didn't Dublin get 2-32 or thereabouts.

You have a manager who didn't make a Connacht final but won d2 and another who was in 3 beat Sligo to win a Connacht final and D1 semi I've a manager won d2, D1 semi l, 3 Connacht finals 1 win beat Galway.

A rationale based on scores conceded is a better barometer however.

Not weighing in on the rossies argument, leave them at it!! But stats in the main are a load of bollix in general for me. Roscommon got to the last two 1/4 finals without playing mayo or Galway? Look at monaghan, scoring stats probably look great but they played 3 division 4 qualifiers....Dublin similar, played Wicklow, longford and laois in Leinster...I'd be more inclined to take everything in context.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 07:59:34 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 06:34:02 PM

Scores conceded lose matches ;)

Wonderful incorrect insight as usual.
So we won all those games then?
Silly me -I thought we got hammered in 3 of them.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2018, 09:19:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 07:59:34 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 18, 2018, 06:48:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 06:34:02 PM

Scores conceded lose matches ;)

Wonderful incorrect insight as usual.
So we won all those games then?
Silly me -I thought we got hammered in 3 of them.

Your argument is sinking faster than the Lusitania, buckaroo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 18, 2018, 11:07:04 PM
Smart one liners by blinkered gasúns don't make McStay a better manager than Fergal or Johneen. 

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 19, 2018, 03:04:15 AM
Fergal you could have a decent debate about and I could fall either side of that. Evans... what did he do better than either of Fergal or McStay.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 19, 2018, 08:51:42 AM
There should be a thread for roscommon posters and it s g ould be locked from the outside when yer all in there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 19, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
Don't want to upset Itcheen  ...
But Evans wouldn't go from April 2016, reinforced March 2017 and August 2017 to July 2018 without doing something about defending.
Not to mention S&C.
No manager would.
Evans wouldn't drop his 2 goalscorers for a replay and give a lad his first ever game in an AI QF replay
Our man did the latter again this year but  there might be some leeway as it was a dead rubber.
Then we have 9 or 10 different CHBs in this year's NFL and Championship.
Not saying Johneen is the greatest manager in the Country or anything but our man has to up his game considerably to reach JE level.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 19, 2018, 01:54:16 PM
apologies itchy.

no connacht finals and lost to sligo and fermanagh in his last year that's some progress he was building something special alright. maybe if he got a team to a QF we'd know what the team would have conceded since that's your barometer but we didn't. losing by 1 or losing by 20 is still losing.

I think we'll leave it there rossfan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 19, 2018, 02:02:59 PM
Might as well :-\.
We'll see how it goes next year.
Meanwhile let's leave this thread to managers in general.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 23, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
Paddy Tally confirmed as new Down manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 23, 2018, 10:29:33 PM
A scatter of has-beens and never-will-bes applied for Longford job.

Former player Pauric (Podgie) Davis mentioned in dispatches but it would seem he is not keen for the marriage.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 23, 2018, 10:44:03 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 23, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
Paddy Tally confirmed as new Down manager

Galway back to fancy dans next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 23, 2018, 10:47:54 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 23, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
Paddy Tally confirmed as new Down manager

Statement on his appointment

Quote
Paddy Tally appointed as new Down Senior Football Manager

Down GAA County Board have ratified Paddy Tally as the new manager of their Senior Football Team. The Galbally man will take over the reins from Eamonn Burns who stepped down from the position after the county's championship campaign.

Tally returns to the management set up in the Mourne County, having previously served with both Ross Carr and James McCartan, including during the run to the All Ireland Final in 2010.

His most recent assignment was with the Galway Senior Football management during the 2018 league and championship campaign. He also notably led the St Mary's College team to their exceptional Sigerson Cup success in 2017.

Paddy was the trainer with the Tyrone side that won the Ulster and All Ireland breakthrough victory in 2003, and has since developed a reputation as one of the GAA's most innovative coaches.

Paddy Tally's management team will include Benny Coulter, Gavin McGilly and Stephen Beattie.

Benny Coulter is one of Down's most celebrated footballers. He won an All Ireland Minor title in 1999, an Allstar in 2010 and a number of county titles with Mayobridge.

Gavin McGilly was joint manager of the Moy side that won this year's All Ireland Intermediate Club title. He and Stephen Beattie have worked with Paddy Tally at St Mary's and are both former coaches with the Ulster Council.

Down GAA Chairman Sean Rooney welcomed the appointment, stating that "we wish Paddy and his team well, we promise them our full support and we hope that everyone can now work together to herald a new awakening for Down Football".

"Paddy's reputation and record as a coach and manager were important factors in our choice and we are delighted that he is now on board"


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 23, 2018, 11:19:39 PM
So much for the 'Down way' even though nobody ever knew what that actually was.

Tally is a proven top class coach but can he prove himself as an inter county manager where he will have to delegate a lot of jobs. They lost their nerve with an outside man after McCorry suffered an embarrassing defeat in Wexford after he had got them promoted to division one so the minimum expected of Tally will be promotion to division 2.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2018, 11:29:02 AM
No Poacher?
Surprised at that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 24, 2018, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2018, 11:29:02 AM
No Poacher?
Surprised at that.

Poacher was part of Aidan O Rourke ticket for Cavan job but they missed out.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 24, 2018, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2018, 11:29:02 AM
No Poacher?
Surprised at that.

Jim Gavin is just keeping the seat warm for Poacher sure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 23, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
Paddy Tally confirmed as new Down manager
Not the easiest job in the sport right now
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trileacman on August 24, 2018, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 24, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 23, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
Paddy Tally confirmed as new Down manager
Not the easiest job in the sport right now

Couldn't disagree more. Talented county at low ebb but with alot of talented players in a strong club scene. A lack of tactical nous has cost them big time since wee James left, players left because the manager couldn't deliver and results were poor.

Promotion from div 3 and a big name scalp in championship or a good qualifier run and it'll be a good year. Eminently doable.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Puckoon on August 24, 2018, 02:08:02 PM
Should be a great appointment for Down and for Paddy Tally
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 24, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
Despite some very OTT criticism from a few places, I think Tally will be a loss to the Galway football setup overall, best of luck to him as manager with Down.
Has Kevin Walsh himself confirmed he is going to stay on as Galway manager though?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2018, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 24, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
Despite some very OTT criticism from a few places, I think Tally will be a loss to the Galway football setup overall, best of luck to him as manager with Down.
Has Kevin Walsh himself confirmed he is going to stay on as Galway manager though?

He was on OTB this morning talking about Tally and Dublin's ridiculous home advantage so I suspect he is.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 24, 2018, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 24, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
Despite some very OTT criticism from a few places, I think Tally will be a loss to the Galway football setup overall, best of luck to him as manager with Down.
Has Kevin Walsh himself confirmed he is going to stay on as Galway manager though?

Wonder who they will get in to replace him? I imagine John Divilly might have his sights on the top job himself when Walsh leaves so will hardly come in now as a number two.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jayop on August 24, 2018, 04:21:29 PM
I'd be stunned if Walsh doesn't have at least one more rattle with these players.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 24, 2018, 04:58:03 PM
I do laugh when so called experts say that Tally was to blame for making Galway play "negative" football even though he was only with Galway for months not even a year and they were playing "negative" football long before he arrived https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-accused-of-being-very-negative-in-leitrim-victory-31230150.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 24, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
Lazy clichéd nonsense that passes for sports journalism.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 25, 2018, 11:10:20 PM
Ford and Conway to join Mayo management team

Former Mayo captain Peter Ford and Shane Conway, who are currently working together as joint managers of the Breaffy senior club football team, have agreed to join Stephen Rochford's Mayo management set-up as selectors.
A meeting of the executive officers of the Mayo GAA Board is due to be held tomorrow evening (Sunday) to discuss the make-up of Rochford's proposed management team for 2019.
It's expected that they will recommend that it be officially ratified at a meeting of the County Board next week.
Ford and Conway will join Joe Keane — the only selector remaining from last season after the departures of Donie Buckley, Peter Burke and Tony McEntee — on the sideline with Rochford next year.
The experienced Ford, who served as a selector under John Maughan when Mayo reached All-Ireland Finals in both 1996 and 1997, has also managed both the Sligo and Galway senior football teams.
The Ballinrobe native led the Tribesmen to the 2005 Connacht title as well as the All-Ireland Under-21 championship that same year.
Ford (56) was the Mayo captain when they won the 1992 Connacht senior football championship title, and also played on the county's All-Ireland winning under-21 team in 1983.
He also managed Ballintubber to win the Mayo SFC title in 2014 and has worked with many of the current Mayo squad, including the O'Connor brothers, O'Shea brothers and Rob Hennelly.
Meanwhile, Shane Conway is well-known for his training, coaching and management work with a number of club teams in Mayo, including Kilmeena, Westport and Castlebar Mitchels.
He was part of Pat Holmes' management team in 2013 when Mitchels won the Mayo SFC title, before going to on to lose the All-Ireland club final to St Vincent's in March of 2014.
A secondary school teacher in Westport, Conway has carved out a very impressive reputation over the last ten years at club and colleges level.
He was the joint-manager of the Rice College Westport team that qualified for the All-Ireland Post-Primary Schools Senior 'A' football championship final earlier this year.
The Mayo side were beaten by St Ronan's, Lurgan in that Hogan Cup Final by a point at Croke Park.


http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/32546-ford-and-conway-to-join-mayo-management-team
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Very underwhelming backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 26, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Very underwhelming backroom team.

Kinda looks like a county board that has decided the chase for the AI is over and is looking to save some cash.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jayop on August 26, 2018, 03:19:17 AM
Interesting that it's the Breaffy managers. Do I remember right that it was rumoured to be the Breaffy men who led the push against the last management team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 26, 2018, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Very underwhelming backroom team.

Certainly save the County Board a few quid anyway.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 26, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Very underwhelming backroom team.

Kinda looks like a county board that has decided the chase for the AI is over and is looking to save some cash.

Looks to be the case. Wise decision to have local lads. Will save money and they are more likely to spot players that could come into the squad.

The game is up! Dublin are steaming rolling ahead, while Mayo have been trickling the other way the last couple of years. No point in horsing good money into a project in decline.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 26, 2018, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 24, 2018, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 24, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
Despite some very OTT criticism from a few places, I think Tally will be a loss to the Galway football setup overall, best of luck to him as manager with Down.
Has Kevin Walsh himself confirmed he is going to stay on as Galway manager though?

Wonder who they will get in to replace him? I imagine John Divilly might have his sights on the top job himself when Walsh leaves so will hardly come in now as a number two.

Just had a listen and surely Kevin Walsh is staying on, nothing from what he said suggested he won't be.

Tally will be a loss but at least they got a year out him and the panel and management will have learnt a lot from him. Interesting to see who he'll bring in. Anyone heard anything on Cillain McDaid the last week?  Would really like to see Molloy & Wall training with the panel over the winter and during the league but then we're relying on someone stopping Corofin. Lets hope Kevin Walsh can find another player who's not on anyone's radar like he did with Ciaran Duggan.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 26, 2018, 02:26:08 PM
Duggan was barely on the radar by the end of the year himself..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 26, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Very underwhelming backroom team.

Kinda looks like a county board that has decided the chase for the AI is over and is looking to save some cash.

Looks to be the case. Wise decision to have local lads. Will save money and they are more likely to spot players that could come into the squad.

The game is up! Dublin are steaming rolling ahead, while Mayo have been trickling the other way the last couple of years. No point in horsing good money into a project in decline.

Desperation in Mayo as they get the Pope to sign a jersey in an attempt to lift the curse!

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1033659822208692224/video/1 (https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1033659822208692224/video/1)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on August 26, 2018, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 26, 2018, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 24, 2018, 04:17:58 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 24, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
Despite some very OTT criticism from a few places, I think Tally will be a loss to the Galway football setup overall, best of luck to him as manager with Down.
Has Kevin Walsh himself confirmed he is going to stay on as Galway manager though?

Wonder who they will get in to replace him? I imagine John Divilly might have his sights on the top job himself when Walsh leaves so will hardly come in now as a number two.

Just had a listen and surely Kevin Walsh is staying on, nothing from what he said suggested he won't be.

Tally will be a loss but at least they got a year out him and the panel and management will have learnt a lot from him. Interesting to see who he'll bring in. Anyone heard anything on Cillain McDaid the last week?  Would really like to see Molloy & Wall training with the panel over the winter and during the league but then we're relying on someone stopping Corofin. Lets hope Kevin Walsh can find another player who's not on anyone's radar like he did with Ciaran Duggan.

I was at their game yesterday evening, they're not going to be stopped any time soon, they were missing about 5 starters and still won by 20 points. Molloy was excellent.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 26, 2018, 04:46:50 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 26, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2018, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2018, 01:40:04 AM
Very underwhelming backroom team.

Kinda looks like a county board that has decided the chase for the AI is over and is looking to save some cash.

Looks to be the case. Wise decision to have local lads. Will save money and they are more likely to spot players that could come into the squad.

The game is up! Dublin are steaming rolling ahead, while Mayo have been trickling the other way the last couple of years. No point in horsing good money into a project in decline.

Desperation in Mayo as they get the Pope to sign a jersey in an attempt to lift the curse!

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1033659822208692224/video/1 (https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1033659822208692224/video/1)

Mayo for Psalm!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 28, 2018, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

What happened the know-it-all arsehole Rouse?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2018, 12:13:52 PM
He didn't want to rob you of the joy of listening to him on the radio, Dinny.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 01:54:49 PM
I'd say he's exactly what Offaly need. They should be very happy with that appointment
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2018, 01:57:04 PM
He'll bring back the Nutron Diet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 28, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
John Maughan!!

Offaly may as well have appointed Banty.

To quote an insider it's sunbeds for the Biffos.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on August 28, 2018, 02:35:31 PM
I'd say all in Mayo happy He s gone elsewhere...

What a sham, how is he still getting gigs
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 28, 2018, 02:40:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 28, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
John Maughan!!

Offaly may as well have appointed Banty.

To quote an insider it's sunbeds for the Biffos.

Sunbeds and icebaths.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: highorlow on August 28, 2018, 02:44:43 PM
Sunbeds and icebogbaths.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Icebeds & sunbaths.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on August 28, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
Is Longford the only gig left.Banty by process of elimination must be favourite.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 28, 2018, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 28, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
Is Longford the only gig left.Banty by process of elimination must be favourite.
Sligo as well. Have Westmeath and Louth been filled yet? Can't think of any other vacancies.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 28, 2018, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 28, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
Is Longford the only gig left.Banty by process of elimination must be favourite.
Sligo as well. Have Westmeath and Louth been filled yet? Can't think of any other vacancies.

Those fûckin' also-rans in Kerry, lad.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on August 28, 2018, 05:57:45 PM
Apparently Banty holding out for the Kerry gig! After all he has talked about them non stop for the past 10 years!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on August 28, 2018, 06:08:19 PM
Will there be one in Roscommon???
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 28, 2018, 06:08:19 PM
Will there be one in Roscommon???

Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 28, 2018, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 28, 2018, 06:08:19 PM
Will there be one in Roscommon???

I'm hearing that could be the case!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 28, 2018, 06:08:19 PM
Will there be one in Roscommon???
Every chance by some of what I'm hearing.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on August 28, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Heard similar. Some serious evaluating going on I'd imagine. There is now probably 4 years of questioning of management ability (across 3 different managements) supporters expect a lot more than I believe the players are capable of producing. McStay like Evans before him has polarized supporters although imo McStay wasnt given a chance by some sections imo

. In his position  I'd probably call it a day. I don't see any other manager doing much better though, not because McStay is great but because the playing personal isn't there.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

If it keeps him off the radio ye should do the decent thing and take one for the team
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

If it keeps him off the radio ye should do the decent thing and take one for the team

We should have paired him with Paul Rouse for Dinny's benefit so.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on August 28, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

If it keeps him off the radio ye should do the decent thing and take one for the team

We should have paired him with Paul Rouse for Dinny's benefit so.

Why the hate for Rouse Dinny?

I find him to be a very likeable guy. He's a gentleman.
A REAL GAA man. Never took a cent in expenses, and he wouldn't manage a team other than his home county or home club.

Unlike all of Kildare's management teams in recent times.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2018, 09:10:11 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.
Jasus you'd have to ask has the Offaly CB lost its marbles. ....
Or is it all a big pass take?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

There should be a separate thread for this from all radio listeners.

"Thank you Offaly county board"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2018, 10:23:07 PM
Quote from: LooseCannon on August 28, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

If it keeps him off the radio ye should do the decent thing and take one for the team

We should have paired him with Paul Rouse for Dinny's benefit so.

Why the hate for Rouse Dinny?

I find him to be a very likeable guy. He's a gentleman.
A REAL GAA man. Never took a cent in expenses, and he wouldn't manage a team other than his home county or home club.

Unlike all of Kildare's management teams in recent times.

Shots fired.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on August 28, 2018, 10:32:39 PM
Isn't Rouse the buck who announced that Michael Donnellan wasn't in the top 5 players on the 1998 Galway team and didn't see why there was such a fascination with him?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on August 29, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

There should be a separate thread for this from all radio listeners.

"Thank you Offaly county board"

He was with the Westmeath hurlers prior to this and was still on the radio. I presume he has the same role with Offaly - S&C coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 29, 2018, 09:38:24 AM
Quote from: shark on August 29, 2018, 08:57:35 AM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

There should be a separate thread for this from all radio listeners.

"Thank you Offaly county board"

He was with the Westmeath hurlers prior to this and was still on the radio. I presume he has the same role with Offaly - S&C coach.

Yep, S&C. I'm skeptical about how two Army lads with a reputation for tough love will go down in a place like Offaly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
Quote from: LooseCannon on August 28, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 08:05:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 28, 2018, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
John Maughan the new Offaly manager

If he got it what was their shortlist? Eugene McGee, Mick O Dwyer and Tommy Carr. Talk about yesterday's man.

One bullet dodged. ;)

It gets worse. Tommy Tom Carr is apparently on the ticket as well.

If it keeps him off the radio ye should do the decent thing and take one for the team

We should have paired him with Paul Rouse for Dinny's benefit so.

Why the hate for Rouse Dinny?

I find him to be a very likeable guy. He's a gentleman.
A REAL GAA man. Never took a cent in expenses, and he wouldn't manage a team other than his home county or home club.

Unlike all of Kildare's management teams in recent times.

He's a virtue signaler and he had opportunity to practice his virtues as a manager of Offaly Football but he bottled it. The kind of man who talks about values but can't live them. An Arsehole!!!

In saying that I did enjoy his book Sport & Ireland.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2018, 11:19:34 AM
Any sign of Sligo or Longford appointing Ros men?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 29, 2018, 08:55:31 PM
Sligo should name manager within 2 weeks, apparently O Hara and Connerton interviewed last week. More this week. Maxi Curran and Pat Holmes mentioned.

Looks like OHara went without McGowan which would be seen as a mistake. Connerton has managed longford in 2 spells, surprised he would quit them to manage us though.

As long as Caroline Currid is involved Ill be happy, but I wouldnt count on it, long overdue her working full time with the her home county.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 29, 2018, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 29, 2018, 08:55:31 PM
Sligo should name manager within 2 weeks, apparently O Hara and Connerton interviewed last week. More this week. Maxi Curran and Pat Holmes mentioned.

Looks like OHara went without McGowan which would be seen as a mistake. Connerton has managed longford in 2 spells, surprised he would quit them to manage us though.

As long as Caroline Currid is involved Ill be happy, but I wouldnt count on it, long overdue her working full time with the her home county.

Who's Caroline C?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2018, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 29, 2018, 08:55:31 PM
Sligo should name manager within 2 weeks, apparently O Hara and Connerton interviewed last week. More this week. Maxi Curran and Pat Holmes mentioned.

Looks like OHara went without McGowan which would be seen as a mistake. Connerton has managed longford in 2 spells, surprised he would quit them to manage us though.

As long as Caroline Currid is involved Ill be happy, but I wouldnt count on it, long overdue her working full time with the her home county.

That's almost like saying it's high time Chris O'Dowd came back to take over as the Roscommon goalkeeper, they're onto bigger and better things.

I doubt Sligo have the funds to be spending the money someone like Currid would cost on top of more basic coaching and organisational requirements.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 29, 2018, 09:03:52 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 29, 2018, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 29, 2018, 08:55:31 PM
Sligo should name manager within 2 weeks, apparently O Hara and Connerton interviewed last week. More this week. Maxi Curran and Pat Holmes mentioned.

Looks like OHara went without McGowan which would be seen as a mistake. Connerton has managed longford in 2 spells, surprised he would quit them to manage us though.

As long as Caroline Currid is involved Ill be happy, but I wouldnt count on it, long overdue her working full time with the her home county.

Who's Caroline C?

She's a sports psychologist. Apparently top notch. She's been involved in 4 All Ireland teams in the recent past, including Tipp Hurlers, Limerick Hurlers this year and Dublin as well I think?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 29, 2018, 09:11:12 PM
Word on the streets of Longford and its environs is that the job is Podgie Davis's if he wants it.

Davis was a star forward for a good spell in the 00s and got to a Leinster club semi-final with his club Fr. Manning Gaels. A disputed score effed up their chances of a final spot.

Gaels are now in a bit of a rut after being so dominant around that time.

Davis, if he takes it, would have lots of goodwill among all the clubs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jinxy on August 29, 2018, 09:54:19 PM
Serious player, I remember him well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on August 29, 2018, 10:12:52 PM
Seemed to do well with Mohill
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on August 31, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

I presume our Offaly brethren have taken in Maughan's interview on OTB ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 31, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 31, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

I presume our Offaly brethren have taken in Maughan's interview on OTB ?
I'm not an Offaly brethren but from listening to a bit of it he thinks county football hasn't changed much since he last managed 10 years ago and has no plans to go defensive as he wants supporters going to the games to enjoy it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on August 31, 2018, 02:31:49 PM

Yup. I'd be seriously worried if I were an Offaly man listening to that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2018, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 31, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 31, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

I presume our Offaly brethren have taken in Maughan's interview on OTB ?
I'm not an Offaly brethren but from listening to a bit of it he thinks county football hasn't changed much since he last managed 10 years ago and has no plans to go defensive as he wants supporters going to the games to enjoy it.

He's bringing sexy back.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on August 31, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2018, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 31, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 31, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

I presume our Offaly brethren have taken in Maughan's interview on OTB ?
I'm not an Offaly brethren but from listening to a bit of it he thinks county football hasn't changed much since he last managed 10 years ago and has no plans to go defensive as he wants supporters going to the games to enjoy it.

He's bringing sexy back.

Stephen Wallace said something about sexy too. We just didn't realise he meant S&M.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 31, 2018, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2018, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 31, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 31, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

I presume our Offaly brethren have taken in Maughan's interview on OTB ?
I'm not an Offaly brethren but from listening to a bit of it he thinks county football hasn't changed much since he last managed 10 years ago and has no plans to go defensive as he wants supporters going to the games to enjoy it.

He's bringing sexy back.

Stephen Wallace said something about sexy too. We just didn't realise he meant S&M.

I think it's terrible bad form of the Offaly County Board to punish the lads who fell out with Wallace by appointing Maughan and letting him bring along Tommy "Tom" Carr.

The only thing I can think of is that the County Board is hoping that every footballer in the county refuses to play and they can spend all their money on the hurlers.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 03, 2018, 10:08:47 PM
Jack Cooney looks set to take charge of the Westmeath footballers, will become the county's first native manager in 26 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2018, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 03, 2018, 10:08:47 PM
Jack Cooney looks set to take charge of the Westmeath footballers, will become the county's first native manager in 26 years.

I hear they dodged a bullet going by one of the rumoured interviewees....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:32:18 PM
Sligo are swallowing a bullet if they're seriously considering Eammo. People in glass houses..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on September 04, 2018, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 04, 2018, 03:08:09 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 03, 2018, 10:08:47 PM
Jack Cooney looks set to take charge of the Westmeath footballers, will become the county's first native manager in 26 years.

I hear they dodged a bullet going by one of the rumoured interviewees....

Yeah he would have been a poor appointment.

Cooney deserves a crack at it. Was a selector under Paidi, has done well at a few different clubs, and got good experience with Donegal last couple of years. Some within the county are against him as his Kinnegad team play ultra defensive football. But he made them competitive (semi final last year) even though they don't have a whole lot of quality in their team. Horses for courses.
Clubs still have to ratify him, but I expect they will.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:32:18 PM
Sligo are swallowing a bullet if they're seriously considering Eammo. People in glass houses..

Denis Connerton a strong possibility for the Sligo job now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:32:18 PM
Sligo are swallowing a bullet if they're seriously considering Eammo. People in glass houses..

Denis Connerton a strong possibility for the Sligo job now.

Would be a much better appointment than what was rumoured but he's also hardly someone who is going to set a fire in Sligo hearts. Very interesting that Leitrim can get Terry Hyland but Sligo are chasing after what are lesser candidates on paper.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: cornetto on September 04, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Syferus you will be glad to know Galway have enlisted a roscommon man kevin stricht to be new trainer instead of paddy tally.any info on him can't say I have heard of him before??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 09:49:46 PM
Quote from: cornetto on September 04, 2018, 09:42:15 PM
Syferus you will be glad to know Galway have enlisted a roscommon man kevin stricht to be new trainer instead of paddy tally.any info on him can't say I have heard of him before??

He was coach of Castleknock the year they made the Dublin final and was coach with Longford this year. He worked with Donie Buckley a bit too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 04, 2018, 10:40:07 PM
On the stolen sheep site Syferus has said Stritch is too inexperienced for the Roscommon coaching job!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:57:54 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 04, 2018, 10:40:07 PM
On the stolen sheep site Syferus has said Stritch is too inexperienced for the Roscommon coaching job!!!!!!!!

I'm not crying a river that he isn't our coach like you are but I said he shouldn't be our first choice, not that he shouldn't be a choice. Nice failed attempt to blacken someone's name, though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 04, 2018, 11:03:38 PM
I never mentioned Kevin Stritch in any guise before Syferus......

This isn't the time to find a talented lad with little intercounty experience .....we need someone who has coached teams to do exactly what we need to do.....


Think the above is the  gushing praise you gave him.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:20:00 AM
We've fcukd up again -missing out on one of our own this time.
But sure we'll continue with the same oul shite and expect different outcomes.
5 of the County panel dropping out next year apart from age related retirements.
I wonder why.......?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:20:00 AM
We've fcukd up again -missing out on one of our own this time.
But sure we'll continue with the same oul shite and expect different outcomes.
5 of the County panel dropping out next year apart from age related retirements.
I wonder why.......?

Demands on IC players far too high with no team outside Dublin having a realistic chance at glory..

I'd love a psychologist to examine your mind and see how you manage to convince yourself everything good about Roscommon has nothing to do with Kevin McStay while everything negative is clearly his fault. We've had players dropping out every year under every manager for many, many years now. So has almost every other county. It's not the man at the top that's the issue.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:39:06 AM
We fcuk up in 2016 -it's  O'Donnell's fault so we disgracefully dump him.
We fcuk up in the NFL in 2017 - Gay Sheerin is declared a bolx and Shannonside  a disgrace. Take a focus off main issue.
We get a smash and grab Connacht and our manager is the greatest ever put on earth.
Mayowestros blow us off the planet -ah but we drew with them last week. Great manager.
We get destroyed in the 3 Quarter Final games - players need to look at themselves.
Players say enough of this crap but it's "demands on I C players"
Not the "man at the top"'
In Syferland it's always someone other than his hero's fault.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 02:05:37 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:39:06 AM
We fcuk up in 2016 -it's  O'Donnell's fault so we disgracefully dump him.
We fcuk up in the NFL in 2017 - Gay Sheerin is declared a bolx and Shannonside  a disgrace. Take a focus off main issue.
We get a smash and grab Connacht and our manager is the greatest ever put on earth.
Mayowestros blow us off the planet -ah but we drew with them last week. Great manager.
We get destroyed in the 3 Quarter Final games - players need to look at themselves.
Players say enough of this crap but it's "demands on I C players"
Not the "man at the top"'
In Syferland it's always someone other than his hero's fault.

He isn't?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say there's a few in Mayo sweating.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say there's a few in Mayo sweating.

You really haven't much of a clue so.

I see Rossfan's principled boycott of the Indo ends if he sees something he likes. Wouldn't be getting too excited if I were you.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say there's a few in Mayo sweating.

You really haven't much of a clue so.

I see Rossfan's principled boycott of the Indo ends if he sees something he likes. Wouldn't be getting too excited if I were you.

You suggesting he's going nowhere or that Mayo would be delighted to get him?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say there's a few in Mayo sweating.

You really haven't much of a clue so.

I see Rossfan's principled boycott of the Indo ends if he sees something he likes. Wouldn't be getting too excited if I were you.

You suggesting he's going nowhere or that Mayo would be delighted to get him?

I'm suggesting you don't know how aflame that Mayo bridge is if you think that's much of a possibility.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Halfquarter on September 05, 2018, 11:56:36 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:20:00 AM
We've fcukd up again -missing out on one of our own this time.
But sure we'll continue with the same oul shite and expect different outcomes.
5 of the County panel dropping out next year apart from age related retirements.
I wonder why.......?

Demands on IC players far too high with no team outside Dublin having a realistic chance at glory..

I'd love a psychologist to examine your mind and see how you manage to convince yourself everything good about Roscommon has nothing to do with Kevin McStay while everything negative is clearly his fault. We've had players dropping out every year under every manager for many, many years now. So has almost every other county. It's not the man at the top that's the issue.

I think every manager in the country is going to be seem as a failure while this Dublin team are around ( except Galvin of course ) .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say there's a few in Mayo sweating.

You really haven't much of a clue so.

I see Rossfan's principled boycott of the Indo ends if he sees something he likes. Wouldn't be getting too excited if I were you.

You suggesting he's going nowhere or that Mayo would be delighted to get him?

I'm suggesting you don't know how aflame that Mayo bridge is if you think that's much of a possibility.

You of all people should know when someone is on the wind up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:22:54 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:43:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:34:45 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say there's a few in Mayo sweating.

You really haven't much of a clue so.

I see Rossfan's principled boycott of the Indo ends if he sees something he likes. Wouldn't be getting too excited if I were you.

You suggesting he's going nowhere or that Mayo would be delighted to get him?

I'm suggesting you don't know how aflame that Mayo bridge is if you think that's much of a possibility.

You of all people should know when someone is on the wind up.

I really don't.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:45:12 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?
Could the € man be getting impatient?
Ros Herald would sicken your behind -full page attacking the players 2 weeks ago and not a whisper of criticism about the manager.
Heard one or 2 of those whispers too while a question to a well known GAA head about the managers plans was met with an abrupt change of subject.
All that's needed is for him to acknowledge he fckd up on the S&C and defensive fronts and look for the right people to add to his backroom team. Not nobodies from Ballina or the like.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:45:12 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?
Could the € man be getting impatient?
Ros Herald would sicken your behind -full page attacking the players 2 weeks ago and not a whisper of criticism about the manager.
Heard one or 2 of those whispers too while a question to a well known GAA head about the managers plans was met with an abrupt change of subject.
All that's needed is for him to acknowledge he fckd up on the S&C and defensive fronts and look for the right people to add to his backroom team. Not nobodies from Ballina or the like.

Why in anyone's right mind does it matter a damn where a coach comes from?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on September 05, 2018, 03:21:34 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 07, 2018, 06:27:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 07, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
Where do we go from here?

We await instructions from The Hatch. The good gentlemen there will decide shortly.

/Jim

Deliberations in The Hatch almost complete.  County Board and the Hoi polloi will be informed in due course.

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?

Go to bed early tonight and turn of your phone for a few days. You are going to be a disappointed man later.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?

Go to bed early tonight and turn of your phone for a few days. You are going to be a disappointed man later.

I know very well what's going to happen tonight..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:08:23 AM
Will somebody think of Syferus

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mcstays-roscommon-future-hangs-in-balance-as-oneill-looks-to-extend-time-with-kildare-37284097.html

I'd say he'll leave now. Who is his likely replacement?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 05, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?
Solan for Sligo ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?

Go to bed early tonight and turn of your phone for a few days. You are going to be a disappointed man later.

I know very well what's going to happen tonight..

Whats that? care to share?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?

Personally i would rather Holmes/Connelly over Rochford.
We will probably end up with some local spoofer like FOD/Dineen or Casey though
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 05, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?
Solan for Sligo ;)
Maug....for Mayo....no wait actually
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 05, 2018, 04:41:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 05, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?
Solan for Sligo ;)
Maug....for Mayo....no wait actually

That Brian McDonald never got a fair crack, let him have it again.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?

Personally i would rather Holmes/Connelly over Rochford.
We will probably end up with some local spoofer like FOD/Dineen or Casey though
FOD led a Div 3 Roscommon team to a Nestor title and Minor AI, Dineen led Roscommon to numerous U21 titles and two AI finals all i know about Casey is club level where he led St Croans to AI final and club in Leitrim to a county title now you might have something against all 3 but none of those managers are spoofers. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on September 05, 2018, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 05, 2018, 04:41:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 05, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?
Solan for Sligo ;)
Maug....for Mayo....no wait actually

That Brian McDonald never got a fair crack, let him have it again.

Was it Anthony Finnerty that ran to get his gloves for the imaginary football catching exercise?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:06:22 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 04:02:31 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?

Go to bed early tonight and turn of your phone for a few days. You are going to be a disappointed man later.

I know very well what's going to happen tonight..

Whats that? care to share?

You clearly know too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?

Personally i would rather Holmes/Connelly over Rochford.
We will probably end up with some local spoofer like FOD/Dineen or Casey though
FOD led a Div 3 Roscommon team to a Nestor title and Minor AI, Dineen led Roscommon to numerous U21 titles and two AI finals all i know about Casey is club level where he led St Croans to AI final and club in Leitrim to a county title now you might have something against all 3 but none of those managers are spoofers.

Nige is spooftastic but the other two aren't. Nige will go for it because the election is next year and the job has the potential to boost his vote. FOD isn't going to be too interested in the job after being turfed out two years ago.

Cut price time with no one really interested in it that has decent credentials. Give it to David Casey and see if he's up to anything as a county manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 05:25:09 PM
I suspect Oliver expects the McStay era to end while th'other fella expects McStay to remain on.
As I said after the Dublin game he should have tendered his resignation then.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 05:25:09 PM
I suspect Oliver expects the McStay era to end while th'other fella expects McStay to remain on.
As I said after the Dublin game he should have tendered his resignation then.

He will 100% be resigning tonight
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 05:25:09 PM
I suspect Oliver expects the McStay era to end while th'other fella expects McStay to remain on.
As I said after the Dublin game he should have tendered his resignation then.

You suspect wrong, as usual.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?

Personally i would rather Holmes/Connelly over Rochford.
We will probably end up with some local spoofer like FOD/Dineen or Casey though
FOD led a Div 3 Roscommon team to a Nestor title and Minor AI, Dineen led Roscommon to numerous U21 titles and two AI finals all i know about Casey is club level where he led St Croans to AI final and club in Leitrim to a county title now you might have something against all 3 but none of those managers are spoofers.

Nige is spooftastic but the other two aren't. Nige will go for it because the election is next year and the job has the potential to boost his vote. FOD isn't going to be too interested in the job after being turfed out two years ago.

Cut price time with no one really interested in it that has decent credentials. Give it to David Casey and see if he's up to anything as a county manager.

A county like Roscommon doesn't win provincial titles and reach All Ireland finals with a spoofer as manager. He is well entitled to go for the job given his underage record with Roscommon but i have my doubts that Roscommon will be any better in defence under Dineen than they were under McStay so they should look elsewhere IMO.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on September 05, 2018, 05:40:39 PM
Has Poacher ruled himself out yet?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on September 05, 2018, 05:43:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 05:25:09 PM
I suspect Oliver expects the McStay era to end while th'other fella expects McStay to remain on.
As I said after the Dublin game he should have tendered his resignation then.

You suspect wrong, as usual.

He's gone. So yet again old chap....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 05, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Holmelly for Roscommon?
Stephen Roshford?

Personally i would rather Holmes/Connelly over Rochford.
We will probably end up with some local spoofer like FOD/Dineen or Casey though
FOD led a Div 3 Roscommon team to a Nestor title and Minor AI, Dineen led Roscommon to numerous U21 titles and two AI finals all i know about Casey is club level where he led St Croans to AI final and club in Leitrim to a county title now you might have something against all 3 but none of those managers are spoofers.

Nige is spooftastic but the other two aren't. Nige will go for it because the election is next year and the job has the potential to boost his vote. FOD isn't going to be too interested in the job after being turfed out two years ago.

Cut price time with no one really interested in it that has decent credentials. Give it to David Casey and see if he's up to anything as a county manager.

A county like Roscommon doesn't win provincial titles and reach All Ireland finals with a spoofer as manager. He is well entitled to go for the job given his underage record with Roscommon but i have my doubts that Roscommon will be any better in defence under Dineen than they were under McStay so they should look elsewhere IMO.

Nige is a spoofer. It's really that simple and not much more needs to be said on the topic.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 05:50:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?

On the money as ever.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 05:52:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 05:50:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: weareros on September 05, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
Strange since McStay already announced he was staying on and county board issued a statement that they wanted him to remain and a Hands Off warning to Mayo from our PRO.. Also Herald only gave one hidden column inch to a number of players not returning for retirement and personal commitments, so one assumes nothing out of the normal - though some reports indicate more. Could that have thrown a fly in ointment?

..or the local media know a local story better and Colm Keys is trying to scrounge up headlines during silly season? Hmm, which one is it, I wonder?

On the money as ever.

You must have missed the rest of my posts. Not like you to try to misrepresent something. Oh, wait, it is.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on September 05, 2018, 06:08:36 PM
The door opens for Banty again.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 05, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

Spot on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
At present, Cavan , Leitrim, Westmeath , Offaly, Longford are all looking for a new  senior management team , while I personally expect Roscommon and Kevin Mc Stay to part ways. With few capable candidates out there , there will be frantic maneuverings by county chairpersons to nab the "ideal man" . It''ll be the manager dictating the terms and conditions. Micky Graham will possibly be the bookies favourite  , while Frank Mc Namee will have his supporters . Don't rule out a move for Banty !!! although rumour has him linked to Cavan

It's already been confirmed McStay is staying on in today's Roscommon People. Makes fools out of those outside the county and people like Rossfan inside it that seriously thought there was any chance of him going.

Who's got egg on their face now?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
At present, Cavan , Leitrim, Westmeath , Offaly, Longford are all looking for a new  senior management team , while I personally expect Roscommon and Kevin Mc Stay to part ways. With few capable candidates out there , there will be frantic maneuverings by county chairpersons to nab the "ideal man" . It''ll be the manager dictating the terms and conditions. Micky Graham will possibly be the bookies favourite  , while Frank Mc Namee will have his supporters . Don't rule out a move for Banty !!! although rumour has him linked to Cavan

It's already been confirmed McStay is staying on in today's Roscommon People. Makes fools out of those outside the county and people like Rossfan inside it that seriously thought there was any chance of him going.

Who's got egg on their face now?

Well there's egg permanently dripping from your sour puss, so..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
There is a real beauty in the way things happen sometimes...balletic, operatic, theatrical....call it as you may....but it is beautiful!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
There is a real beauty in the way things happen sometimes...balletic, operatic, theatrical....call it as you may....but it is beautiful!

And some people actually think Tony McEntee is the solution. I'd prefer Banty.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 05, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 07:34:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 26, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: The Insider on July 26, 2018, 05:38:09 PM
At present, Cavan , Leitrim, Westmeath , Offaly, Longford are all looking for a new  senior management team , while I personally expect Roscommon and Kevin Mc Stay to part ways. With few capable candidates out there , there will be frantic maneuverings by county chairpersons to nab the "ideal man" . It''ll be the manager dictating the terms and conditions. Micky Graham will possibly be the bookies favourite  , while Frank Mc Namee will have his supporters . Don't rule out a move for Banty !!! although rumour has him linked to Cavan

It's already been confirmed McStay is staying on in today's Roscommon People. Makes fools out of those outside the county and people like Rossfan inside it that seriously thought there was any chance of him going.

Who's got egg on their face now?

Finger on the pulse as always.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2018, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
There is a real beauty in the way things happen sometimes...balletic, operatic, theatrical....call it as you may....but it is beautiful!

And some people actually think Tony McEntee is the solution. I'd prefer Banty.

It's mad how you presumed I was referring to you.... you've either got a wild chip on your shoulder or a huge sense of self importance....or maybe both!!!

As for Tony Mac ..... that's a matter of opinion....and you're entitlement
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 09:12:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2018, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2018, 07:57:25 PM
There is a real beauty in the way things happen sometimes...balletic, operatic, theatrical....call it as you may....but it is beautiful!

And some people actually think Tony McEntee is the solution. I'd prefer Banty.

It's mad how you presumed I was referring to you.... you've either got a wild chip on your shoulder or a huge sense of self importance....or maybe both!!!

As for Tony Mac ..... that's a matter of opinion....and you're entitlement

Or I can read the obvious. One or the other.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.

For your own good you need to hit the sack early tonight.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.

For your own good you need to hit the sack early tonight.

Do tell us your stunning insight into the inner workings of the Roscommon management team that leads you to believe Liam McHale is the problem.

Oh yeah. You don't have any.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on September 05, 2018, 10:57:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.

For your own good you need to hit the sack early tonight.

Do tell us your stunning insight into the inner workings of the Roscommon management team that leads you to believe Liam McHale is the problem.

Oh yeah. You don't have any.

Neither do you but it doesn't stop you
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on September 05, 2018, 10:57:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.

For your own good you need to hit the sack early tonight.

Do tell us your stunning insight into the inner workings of the Roscommon management team that leads you to believe Liam McHale is the problem.

Oh yeah. You don't have any.

Neither do you but it doesn't stop you

Fanciful thinking at best.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebuzz on September 05, 2018, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on September 05, 2018, 10:57:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.

For your own good you need to hit the sack early tonight.

Do tell us your stunning insight into the inner workings of the Roscommon management team that leads you to believe Liam McHale is the problem.

Oh yeah. You don't have any.

Neither do you but it doesn't stop you

Fanciful thinking at best.

I never understand half the crap you come out with Syferus. You constantly talk in riddles and you can never (ever) admit when you're wrong.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
He spent the last month acting as Kevin's PR man castigating anyone who issued the mildest criticism.
He lambasted us all with assertions that Kevin was staying and the "haters" could suck it up for 2019.
His bubble was burst today so he's making obtuse attacks on people all over the place.
He needs to follow Oliver Kelly's advice to dump the phone and lie down in a dark room for a few days.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on September 06, 2018, 12:27:12 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

I wouldn't disagree with you on that
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 06, 2018, 12:27:50 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

I don't think McHale is a spoofer. Far from it actually. I'm not sure what his role in Roscommon set-up was? Defensive coach?
If he was defensive coach, maybe an issue. He has always seemed to go with a loose zonal approach and put faith in providence.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 06, 2018, 12:49:54 AM
Quote from: thebuzz on September 05, 2018, 11:34:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on September 05, 2018, 10:57:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 05, 2018, 08:48:06 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

Captain Pointing Fingers Randomly.

For your own good you need to hit the sack early tonight.

Do tell us your stunning insight into the inner workings of the Roscommon management team that leads you to believe Liam McHale is the problem.

Oh yeah. You don't have any.

Neither do you but it doesn't stop you

Fanciful thinking at best.

I never understand half the crap you come out with Syferus. You constantly talk in riddles and you can never (ever) admit when you're wrong.

I was wrong about McStay staying.

QED - you're wrong too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 06, 2018, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 06, 2018, 12:27:50 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
McStay back on the Sunday Game so talking about scoring zones and how to recycle the ball. He better not have the cheek to tell teams how to defend.

At least he put his money where his mouth was and managed a team unlike most of TSG clowns

He certainly did and fair play to him for that. The word spoofer is used on here maybe that was McStay's downfall in that his right hand man McHale was a bit of spoofer?

I don't think McHale is a spoofer. Far from it actually. I'm not sure what his role in Roscommon set-up was? Defensive coach?
If he was defensive coach, maybe an issue. He has always seemed to go with a loose zonal approach and put faith in providence.

McHale focused on coaching the attack from what I heard..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 06, 2018, 01:44:56 PM

Quote
Offaly's 35-step application form shows the crazy demands on modern managers

Pressure on GAA bosses is highlighted by intense selection process for Offaly job, says Michael Verney
September 6 2018 2:30 AM

Inter-County managers regularly detail the level of time which their position demands and a comprehensive application form for the previously vacant Offaly football post - which will be filled by John Maughan - has highlighted the lengths which they must go to before the prospect of an interview.

With a host of inter-county roles currently being advertised, the process as outlined in yesterday's 'Midland Tribune' is an eye-opener, with applicants forced to jump through several hoops before possibly pitching to the board.

Details of each member of their backroom staff, the start of their training, training plans for O'Byrne Cup and league, interaction with clubs and availability of county players, as well as other 'additional info', is documented in the extensive 35-step application broken into six categories: personnel, training, club, U-20s, research and analysis and additional information.

Amazingly, Offaly candidates Paschal Kellaghan and Mark Plunkett - who had former Faithful boss Gerry Fahy as part of his backroom team - didn't receive an interview or get a chance to present plans to the selection committee despite meeting the demands.

It's unclear whether Kerry chairman Tim Murphy will undergo a similarly stringent application process to find the successor to Eamonn Fitzmaurice or if Tipperary chief Michael Bourke will do likewise to replace Michael Ryan, but it highlights the pressure of inter-county management, even well before the job commences.

Under the personnel heading, details of the manager, coach, selectors, goalkeeping coach, additional coaching, video analyst, sports psychologist, nutritionist, recovery and their proposed cost were required.

Under training, dates for individual programmes and the start of collective training, the balance between playing football and physical work, a training plan for O'Byrne Cup, training plan for the league and the number of players on the panel were needed.

In terms of the club, details of how often players would train with their clubs, a demand that players play a prescribed number of club league games and how the candidate would deal with the April window were detailed.

The working relationship with the U-20 management also requires explanation, as does the details of how research/analysis of Division 3 opponents is undertaken.

The additional information catches the eye, with the question "how can you get players onto Sigerson teams?", as well as stating that the county board will decide physios and kit men, while strength and conditioning personnel will be supplied by the board.

"Agreement must also be reached on all types of media interaction", while "suspension from GAA activities by any member of management will mean instant dismissal and suspension from duties during process".

With Stephen Wallace suspended for two months after an incident in a Kerry club game, but still remaining in the Offaly post this summer before being relieved of duties following their shock defeat to Wicklow, measures have been taken to ensure similar instances do not occur again.

The team budget will be administered through a team secretary with "very regular reviews", while there will be "no additional monies allocated and no approaches can be made to any individuals, companies or Club Faithful (Offaly's supporter's club)".

All GAA rules and match-day regulations must be adhered to and any fines incurred will be deducted from the individual's expenses.

Management gear will be agreed at time of appointment and management will not receive players' gear allocation and training cannot commence until player/manager charter is agreed and signed.

The county board will decide the status of U-20 players (prodigious forward Cian Johnson could not play senior last season as internal rules forbid him from playing above his grade), while players brought into the panel must train for a month before being finalised as panel members.

Next time you hear an inter-county manager liken it to a full-time job, this application form might remind you of what the post requires before a ball is pucked or kicked.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/offalys-35step-application-form-shows-the-crazy-demands-on-modern-managers-37288008.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=IN:DailyUpdate&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjQwMDAwMDE2NS1hZWRhLTBjNjUtYzMxOC0wODE2M2U5Y2IwOTjaACRlMWJmNDM1OC1jZWVhLTQyOTAtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjZDLaACQ1YWZmM2U1MC04ZGE0LTQ4YmUtOTk1NC00MGE3ODA1ZTM1MGIxiR3tfg3pruxZhd6SeGPcyKd4pF-C42bhufTLjr2oLA
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 06, 2018, 11:35:21 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 06, 2018, 01:44:56 PM

Quote
Offaly's 35-step application form shows the crazy demands on modern managers

Pressure on GAA bosses is highlighted by intense selection process for Offaly job, says Michael Verney
September 6 2018 2:30 AM

Inter-County managers regularly detail the level of time which their position demands and a comprehensive application form for the previously vacant Offaly football post - which will be filled by John Maughan - has highlighted the lengths which they must go to before the prospect of an interview.

With a host of inter-county roles currently being advertised, the process as outlined in yesterday's 'Midland Tribune' is an eye-opener, with applicants forced to jump through several hoops before possibly pitching to the board.

Details of each member of their backroom staff, the start of their training, training plans for O'Byrne Cup and league, interaction with clubs and availability of county players, as well as other 'additional info', is documented in the extensive 35-step application broken into six categories: personnel, training, club, U-20s, research and analysis and additional information.

Amazingly, Offaly candidates Paschal Kellaghan and Mark Plunkett - who had former Faithful boss Gerry Fahy as part of his backroom team - didn't receive an interview or get a chance to present plans to the selection committee despite meeting the demands.

It's unclear whether Kerry chairman Tim Murphy will undergo a similarly stringent application process to find the successor to Eamonn Fitzmaurice or if Tipperary chief Michael Bourke will do likewise to replace Michael Ryan, but it highlights the pressure of inter-county management, even well before the job commences.

Under the personnel heading, details of the manager, coach, selectors, goalkeeping coach, additional coaching, video analyst, sports psychologist, nutritionist, recovery and their proposed cost were required.

Under training, dates for individual programmes and the start of collective training, the balance between playing football and physical work, a training plan for O'Byrne Cup, training plan for the league and the number of players on the panel were needed.

In terms of the club, details of how often players would train with their clubs, a demand that players play a prescribed number of club league games and how the candidate would deal with the April window were detailed.

The working relationship with the U-20 management also requires explanation, as does the details of how research/analysis of Division 3 opponents is undertaken.

The additional information catches the eye, with the question "how can you get players onto Sigerson teams?", as well as stating that the county board will decide physios and kit men, while strength and conditioning personnel will be supplied by the board.

"Agreement must also be reached on all types of media interaction", while "suspension from GAA activities by any member of management will mean instant dismissal and suspension from duties during process".

With Stephen Wallace suspended for two months after an incident in a Kerry club game, but still remaining in the Offaly post this summer before being relieved of duties following their shock defeat to Wicklow, measures have been taken to ensure similar instances do not occur again.

The team budget will be administered through a team secretary with "very regular reviews", while there will be "no additional monies allocated and no approaches can be made to any individuals, companies or Club Faithful (Offaly's supporter's club)".

All GAA rules and match-day regulations must be adhered to and any fines incurred will be deducted from the individual's expenses.

Management gear will be agreed at time of appointment and management will not receive players' gear allocation and training cannot commence until player/manager charter is agreed and signed.

The county board will decide the status of U-20 players (prodigious forward Cian Johnson could not play senior last season as internal rules forbid him from playing above his grade), while players brought into the panel must train for a month before being finalised as panel members.

Next time you hear an inter-county manager liken it to a full-time job, this application form might remind you of what the post requires before a ball is pucked or kicked.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/offalys-35step-application-form-shows-the-crazy-demands-on-modern-managers-37288008.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=IN:DailyUpdate&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjQwMDAwMDE2NS1hZWRhLTBjNjUtYzMxOC0wODE2M2U5Y2IwOTjaACRlMWJmNDM1OC1jZWVhLTQyOTAtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjZDLaACQ1YWZmM2U1MC04ZGE0LTQ4YmUtOTk1NC00MGE3ODA1ZTM1MGIxiR3tfg3pruxZhd6SeGPcyKd4pF-C42bhufTLjr2oLA
I know they ended up with Maughan but most of those are completely required to know before hiring a manager, would love to see the Sligo one before we ended up with Carew and Corey after.

The main ones i don't agree are the Sigerson one as that impacts the County team not in a best way and is seperate, using your position to approach rich business men should be welcomed as i think McGuinness funded Donegal this way, and Managerial gear should be pretty close to the what the players get bar playing gear.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: heffo on September 07, 2018, 10:53:08 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 06, 2018, 11:35:21 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 06, 2018, 01:44:56 PM

Quote
Offaly's 35-step application form shows the crazy demands on modern managers

Pressure on GAA bosses is highlighted by intense selection process for Offaly job, says Michael Verney
September 6 2018 2:30 AM

Inter-County managers regularly detail the level of time which their position demands and a comprehensive application form for the previously vacant Offaly football post - which will be filled by John Maughan - has highlighted the lengths which they must go to before the prospect of an interview.

With a host of inter-county roles currently being advertised, the process as outlined in yesterday's 'Midland Tribune' is an eye-opener, with applicants forced to jump through several hoops before possibly pitching to the board.

Details of each member of their backroom staff, the start of their training, training plans for O'Byrne Cup and league, interaction with clubs and availability of county players, as well as other 'additional info', is documented in the extensive 35-step application broken into six categories: personnel, training, club, U-20s, research and analysis and additional information.

Amazingly, Offaly candidates Paschal Kellaghan and Mark Plunkett - who had former Faithful boss Gerry Fahy as part of his backroom team - didn't receive an interview or get a chance to present plans to the selection committee despite meeting the demands.

It's unclear whether Kerry chairman Tim Murphy will undergo a similarly stringent application process to find the successor to Eamonn Fitzmaurice or if Tipperary chief Michael Bourke will do likewise to replace Michael Ryan, but it highlights the pressure of inter-county management, even well before the job commences.

Under the personnel heading, details of the manager, coach, selectors, goalkeeping coach, additional coaching, video analyst, sports psychologist, nutritionist, recovery and their proposed cost were required.

Under training, dates for individual programmes and the start of collective training, the balance between playing football and physical work, a training plan for O'Byrne Cup, training plan for the league and the number of players on the panel were needed.

In terms of the club, details of how often players would train with their clubs, a demand that players play a prescribed number of club league games and how the candidate would deal with the April window were detailed.

The working relationship with the U-20 management also requires explanation, as does the details of how research/analysis of Division 3 opponents is undertaken.

The additional information catches the eye, with the question "how can you get players onto Sigerson teams?", as well as stating that the county board will decide physios and kit men, while strength and conditioning personnel will be supplied by the board.

"Agreement must also be reached on all types of media interaction", while "suspension from GAA activities by any member of management will mean instant dismissal and suspension from duties during process".

With Stephen Wallace suspended for two months after an incident in a Kerry club game, but still remaining in the Offaly post this summer before being relieved of duties following their shock defeat to Wicklow, measures have been taken to ensure similar instances do not occur again.

The team budget will be administered through a team secretary with "very regular reviews", while there will be "no additional monies allocated and no approaches can be made to any individuals, companies or Club Faithful (Offaly's supporter's club)".

All GAA rules and match-day regulations must be adhered to and any fines incurred will be deducted from the individual's expenses.

Management gear will be agreed at time of appointment and management will not receive players' gear allocation and training cannot commence until player/manager charter is agreed and signed.

The county board will decide the status of U-20 players (prodigious forward Cian Johnson could not play senior last season as internal rules forbid him from playing above his grade), while players brought into the panel must train for a month before being finalised as panel members.

Next time you hear an inter-county manager liken it to a full-time job, this application form might remind you of what the post requires before a ball is pucked or kicked.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/offalys-35step-application-form-shows-the-crazy-demands-on-modern-managers-37288008.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=IN:DailyUpdate&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjQwMDAwMDE2NS1hZWRhLTBjNjUtYzMxOC0wODE2M2U5Y2IwOTjaACRlMWJmNDM1OC1jZWVhLTQyOTAtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjZDLaACQ1YWZmM2U1MC04ZGE0LTQ4YmUtOTk1NC00MGE3ODA1ZTM1MGIxiR3tfg3pruxZhd6SeGPcyKd4pF-C42bhufTLjr2oLA

using your position to approach rich business men should be welcomed as i think McGuinness funded Donegal this way,


The issue arises when existing sponsors are approached for funding the Senior Football team and the county then can't pay the heating bill - see a Leinster county who went bankrupt in the not so distant past.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:12:56 AM
No merry go round in Monaghan as Malachy appointed to end of 2020.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 11, 2018, 12:30:39 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:12:56 AM
No merry go round in Monaghan as Malachy appointed to end of 2020.

If they didn't know it in 2013 Monaghan should know now they have got themselves a gem and are right to keep him on as long as possible.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:37:04 AM
Monaghan get so many things right.
If we could only copy them..... :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 11, 2018, 12:37:39 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:37:04 AM
Monaghan get so many things right.
If we could only copy them..... :-\

Keeping McStay would have been a start.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:46:05 AM
He resigned ;) and anyway not much point keeping a manager and losing half a panel.
When did Monaghan last concede 4-24 to a team with poor enough forwards?

PS we should have kept Fergal 2 years ago instead of your not so cool clean hero.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 11, 2018, 12:48:26 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:46:05 AM
He resigned ;) and anyway not much point keeping a manager and losing half a panel.
When did Monaghan last concede 4-24 to a team with poor enough forwards?

PS we should have kept Fergal 2 years ago instead of your not so cool clean hero.

Most of those lads ain't coming back because we changed managers..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 11, 2018, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 11, 2018, 12:37:39 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 12:37:04 AM
Monaghan get so many things right.
If we could only copy them..... :-\

Keeping McStay would have been a start.

How do you keep someone who is determined to leave..

Mcstay hinted at issues with the county board ability  're facilities and finance but given he had a 3500 word well prepared exit speech do you not think he would have called it out if he was as your conspiracy theory suggests he was ousted  / pushed.
What changed in the 8 weeks since he announced without needing to that he was staying j don't know other than it appears he wasn't prepared to continue and accept several players have lives and may take a break from the hamster wheel of  intercounty football
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 11, 2018, 09:31:09 AM
Either he had " lost " the panel or € man had stern words over state of the team this Summer.
Either way the lengthy statement suggests it wasn't a spur of the moment decision.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 11, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
McStay is very likeable  and you've got to admire him for actually giving it a go but those scorelines in the Super 8's aren't a true reflection of the players Roscommon have, they went backwards results wise in the championship in 2018. Roscommon should have been a lot more competitive then they were.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: larryin89 on September 11, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 11, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
McStay is very likeable  and you've got to admire him for actually giving it a go but those scorelines in the Super 8's aren't a true reflection of the players Roscommon have, they went backwards results wise in the championship in 2018. Roscommon should have been a lot more competitive then they were.

They got a fair trimming off Mayo last year too in fairness.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 11, 2018, 11:34:50 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on September 11, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 11, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
McStay is very likeable  and you've got to admire him for actually giving it a go but those scorelines in the Super 8's aren't a true reflection of the players Roscommon have, they went backwards results wise in the championship in 2018. Roscommon should have been a lot more competitive then they were.

They got a fair trimming off Mayo last year too in fairness.

Their was that too but their was at least signs of promise with the draw the first day.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on September 11, 2018, 11:38:11 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on September 11, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 11, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
McStay is very likeable  and you've got to admire him for actually giving it a go but those scorelines in the Super 8's aren't a true reflection of the players Roscommon have, they went backwards results wise in the championship in 2018. Roscommon should have been a lot more competitive then they were.

They got a fair trimming off Mayo last year too in fairness.

Defendivecerakness and lack of fitness didn't happen this year alright
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 11, 2018, 07:03:24 PM
Recruitment process for Roscommon GAA Senior Football Manager.

   
At a meeting of the Roscommon GAA County Committee on Monday last,  Roscommon GAA appointed a subcommittee to carry out the recruitment of a new senior team manager to replace Kevin McStay who retired recently.


The committee is made up of the County Chairman Seamus Sweeney, Co. Secretary Brian Carroll, Co. Treasurer David O Connor, former Senior Football Captain Niall Carty, and former Co. footballer Ciarán Heneghan. In addition, the committee has the option to add an additional member if required.


Clubs that wish to nominate somebody for the position of Senior Football Team Manager have until 5 pm on Friday the 14th of September 2018 to do so. The subcommittee was also given the authority to approach any suitable candidates themselves.


Roscommon GAA hopes to have the appointment made in a timely fashion to ensure the new manager has plenty of time to prepare for the 2019 football season and the return to Division One Football.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: giveballaghback on September 11, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
Jack O Connor has been interviewed for the Mayo job, may be an announcement soon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mayo4Sam on September 11, 2018, 11:07:43 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 11, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
Jack O Connor has been interviewed for the Mayo job, may be an announcement soon.

Such nonsense. There's rumours going round he was in Breaffy Friday night, again nonsense.

Next thing it'll be Roy Keane with Liam McHale and Mick McCarthy as assistant
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on September 12, 2018, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 11, 2018, 11:07:43 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 11, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
Jack O Connor has been interviewed for the Mayo job, may be an announcement soon.

Such nonsense. There's rumours going round he was in Breaffy Friday night, again nonsense.

Next thing it'll be Roy Keane with Liam McHale and Mick McCarthy as assistant
How did you know that???? Fecken more leaks than the national aquatic centre
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: giveballaghback on September 12, 2018, 08:35:10 PM
O Connor had a 2 hour interview, no agreement reached, but Im told Horan and David Brady will head up the new management team, you heard it here first.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 12, 2018, 08:45:00 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 12, 2018, 08:35:10 PM
O Connor had a 2 hour interview, no agreement reached, but Im told Horan and David Brady will head up the new management team, you heard it here first.

Go to bed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on September 12, 2018, 09:07:20 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 12, 2018, 08:35:10 PM
O Connor had a 2 hour interview, no agreement reached, but Im told Horan and David Brady will head up the new management team, you heard it here first.

Would seriously reduce the amount of droll Mayo accents on GAA podcasts and the like but not entirely eradicate.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 12, 2018, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 12, 2018, 08:35:10 PM
O Connor had a 2 hour interview, no agreement reached, but Im told Horan and David Brady will head up the new management team, you heard it here first.

You are telling me James Horan will leave one of the most progressive clubs in Connacht with huge potential and abandon his many well paying media gigs, to take the steering wheel on a sinking ship?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 12, 2018, 11:10:34 PM
Longford ratified Padraig Davis and his management team tonight.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 13, 2018, 08:45:40 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 12, 2018, 11:10:34 PM
Longford ratified Padraig Davis and his management team tonight.

Former county mates Paul Barden and Donal Ledwith are on as selectors. Paul Barden was the classiest of class acts to come out of Longford in 40 years. With this strong team we hope to see a run in the O'Byrne Cup and a march to Div 2 of the League.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 18, 2018, 11:27:55 AM
Mick Bohan in the running for the Roscommon senior football job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2018, 12:32:01 PM
Hmmmmmm.....
Was with Gavin I believe and then Clare before the women.
Must get Syfīn's prediction and then bet on the opposite :D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 21, 2018, 12:03:18 AM
Paul Taylor for Shligo I hear.
We must be still talking to Bohan. No word on who clubs might have nominated but I'm sure Nigel was anyway.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 21, 2018, 12:13:28 AM
http://www.sligogaa.ie/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleid=30165


Sligo County Board wish to announce that former County player and Under 21 Manager Paul Taylor has been recommended by the Selection committee to be the new Sligo Senior Football Team Manager.

He will be recommended to Club delegates at next Monday's County Board meeting for ratification.

Paul Taylor hails from the Eastern Harps Club with whom he won 6 Senior County titles.He played for 14 seasons for Sligo and was the county's most prolific forward during the 1990s.

He was involved with Kevin Walsh as a selector on the Senior team which lost out to Roscommon in the 2010 Connaught Final.

And in his own right he went on to manage the County Under 21 team narrowly losing out to Galway in the 2017 Connacht Final

He is very familiar with the local GAA scene and is keenly aware of the potential of the current senior squad having worked with many of them as County Under 21 Manager.

Joe Taaffe Chairman of the Selection committee stated that the process to appoint a new Senior Team Manager was very challenging given the number of Managerial vacancies that existed compounded by various factors around travel and work commitments for those who considered the position.

He went on to say that during the 7 week process which started on Friday 3rd August,the Selection committee had spoken to 9 potential candidates in a far reaching and exhaustive effort to find a new incumbent for the role.

He further pointed out that the process had to be confidential as many of the candidates had other roles/commitments and responsibilities and their privacy had to be respected.

The Selection committee felt it was appropriate to issue an interim announcement during the process when Eamon O Hara withdrew from the field given his change of circumstances and the Selection committee wish to acknowledge Eamonn's co – operation in that regard.

In conclusion he stated that he hoped all Sligo Gaels would now get behind a new local Manager and help him to build a new Sligo Senior team in the years ahead.

Paul Taylor will be announcing his full backroom team in the coming weeks which will comprise of two local selectors and a new face to the Senior set up in Coach Joe Keane (Mayo).

Keane is new to the Senior set up in Sligo and comes with a solid pedigree having won an All Ireland Club Senior medal with Crossmolina in 2001.He then went on to coach the Mayo Under 21's to All Ireland success in 2016 and in the past two years has been involved in the Mayo Senior backroom team working alongside Donie Buckley.

Finally Sligo County Board would like to thank all those who considered the role and thank them for their time and interest and wish Paul Taylor and his management team every success
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sligoman2 on September 21, 2018, 02:35:08 AM
 Best of luck to Paul, I wish him well but am confused by the county board saying they wanted a manager with prior experience and then pick one that doesn't have that experience?

Very important that he gets the right backroom team...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2018, 09:11:41 AM
If Mick Bohan gets ros gig ye may sell the bus and double your spend on footballs
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on September 21, 2018, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: Itchy on September 21, 2018, 09:11:41 AM
If Mick Bohan gets ros gig ye may sell the bus and double your spend on footballs

Double the footballs, 8 wheels on the bus, and a pint in each hand when we win the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 21, 2018, 11:21:35 AM
The best us yet to come ;D

I just realised that one regular Ros poster  "Padraighenrypearse" hasn't been heard of on the Board since McStay left.
He'd never have been a member of the management :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on September 21, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
That's the type of logic I'd expect from you. You are as bad as sy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 21, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
How many management jobs are still vacant. Mayo,Roscommon,Louth any others?   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 21, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 21, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
How many management jobs are still vacant. Mayo,Roscommon,Louth any others?

You have to wonder who would want any of those jobs in the present GAA intercounty climate?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 21, 2018, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 21, 2018, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 21, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
How many management jobs are still vacant. Mayo,Roscommon,Louth any others?

You have to wonder who would want any of those jobs in the present GAA intercounty climate?
James Horan for Mayo anyway and he wouldn't be coming back if he didn't think this group of players didn't have at least one more go at the All Ireland before full transition sets in. Roscommon crying out for a manager to make them defend better while the only way is up for Louth after the year they had.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 21, 2018, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on September 21, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
That's the type of logic I'd expect from you. You are as bad as sy.

The sheer misplaced arrogance of this post is astounding.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Heshs Umpire on September 26, 2018, 08:53:23 AM
Paul Taylor confirmed for Sligo job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: craicwas90 on September 26, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
A decision on the next Kerry senior football manager is imminent with Maurice Fitzgerald emerging as a potential candidate to join front-runners from the outset, Jack O'Connor and Peter Keane.

Speculation has grown locally with one report suggesting that Fitzgerald would be offered the job as head of a management team that had the former Mayo coach Donie Buckley and Fitzgerald's 1997 All-Ireland-winning colleague Stephen Stack on board.

But while Fitzgerald has presented to the four-man committee, headed by chairman Tim Murphy and including secretary Peter Twiss, development officer Eamonn Whelan and coaching officer Terence Houlihan, as a potential choice, it's understood no firm decision has been taken up to yesterday and that the candidacies of O'Connor and Keane, who have both been interviewed, are believed to be still under active consideration. Keane is thought to have been less willing however to meet some of the criteria set out in that meeting.

The preference in Kerry has been for a management team with some of the development components from the previous set-up remaining in place. The selection committee could expand to five on that basis.

Fitzgerald, the 1997 Footballer of the Year, was a selector to Fitzmaurice for the last two years, having previously managed St Mary's Cahersiveen to an All-Ireland intermediate title. However, he has recently taken over as principal of Coláiste na Sceilge which brings an increased workload.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on September 26, 2018, 04:08:05 PM
I think if that happens, it will embolden the Mayo CB to give Solan the gig. younger upcoming manager wins out over lad who had his chance already
Donie Buckley is probably the key to that whole thing if hes as good as the way the mayo players raved about him
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on September 26, 2018, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: iorras on September 26, 2018, 04:08:05 PM
I think if that happens, it will embolden the Mayo CB to give Solan the gig. younger upcoming manager wins out over lad who had his chance already
Donie Buckley is probably the key to that whole thing if hes as good as the way the mayo players raved about him

Bucks is definitely gone from Mayo. He's probably going to end up on the winning Kerry ticket.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Therealdonald on September 26, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: craicwas90 on September 26, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
A decision on the next Kerry senior football manager is imminent with Maurice Fitzgerald emerging as a potential candidate to join front-runners from the outset, Jack O'Connor and Peter Keane.

Speculation has grown locally with one report suggesting that Fitzgerald would be offered the job as head of a management team that had the former Mayo coach Donie Buckley and Fitzgerald's 1997 All-Ireland-winning colleague Stephen Stack on board.

But while Fitzgerald has presented to the four-man committee, headed by chairman Tim Murphy and including secretary Peter Twiss, development officer Eamonn Whelan and coaching officer Terence Houlihan, as a potential choice, it's understood no firm decision has been taken up to yesterday and that the candidacies of O'Connor and Keane, who have both been interviewed, are believed to be still under active consideration. Keane is thought to have been less willing however to meet some of the criteria set out in that meeting.

The preference in Kerry has been for a management team with some of the development components from the previous set-up remaining in place. The selection committee could expand to five on that basis.

Fitzgerald, the 1997 Footballer of the Year, was a selector to Fitzmaurice for the last two years, having previously managed St Mary's Cahersiveen to an All-Ireland intermediate title. However, he has recently taken over as principal of Coláiste na Sceilge which brings an increased workload.

I always thought Maurice Fitz worked in insurance? Didn't think he was a teacher
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 26, 2018, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on September 26, 2018, 05:55:44 PM
Quote from: craicwas90 on September 26, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
A decision on the next Kerry senior football manager is imminent with Maurice Fitzgerald emerging as a potential candidate to join front-runners from the outset, Jack O'Connor and Peter Keane.

Speculation has grown locally with one report suggesting that Fitzgerald would be offered the job as head of a management team that had the former Mayo coach Donie Buckley and Fitzgerald's 1997 All-Ireland-winning colleague Stephen Stack on board.

But while Fitzgerald has presented to the four-man committee, headed by chairman Tim Murphy and including secretary Peter Twiss, development officer Eamonn Whelan and coaching officer Terence Houlihan, as a potential choice, it's understood no firm decision has been taken up to yesterday and that the candidacies of O'Connor and Keane, who have both been interviewed, are believed to be still under active consideration. Keane is thought to have been less willing however to meet some of the criteria set out in that meeting.

The preference in Kerry has been for a management team with some of the development components from the previous set-up remaining in place. The selection committee could expand to five on that basis.

Fitzgerald, the 1997 Footballer of the Year, was a selector to Fitzmaurice for the last two years, having previously managed St Mary's Cahersiveen to an All-Ireland intermediate title. However, he has recently taken over as principal of Coláiste na Sceilge which brings an increased workload.

I always thought Maurice Fitz worked in insurance? Didn't think he was a teacher

I think he went back and did teaching later on.

It's one thing combining teaching with inter-county management, a whole different kettle of fish trying to combine being principal of even a moderately sized school with intercounty management.
Especially for someone who has only taken over the job. Seems a bit nuts to me.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on September 26, 2018, 10:40:59 PM
Is it a pre-requisite for the Kerry job that you must be a teacher?
O'Connor, Fitzgerald both teachers
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 26, 2018, 10:59:44 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on September 26, 2018, 10:40:59 PM
Is it a pre-requisite for the Kerry job that you must be a teacher?
O'Connor, Fitzgerald both teachers

Pat O'Shea and Páidí Ó Sé  not teachers, so 50% of managers this century thus far have not been teachers. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 28, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Maurice has been a teacher with years. He's also an auctioneer/estate agent.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on September 28, 2018, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 28, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Maurice has been a teacher with years. He's also an auctioneer/estate agent.

Given that he has become principal of Coláiste na Sceilge in Cahersiveen he won't have much time for auctioneering or managing a county football team.

https://www.radiokerry.ie/maurice-fitzgerald-become-colaiste-na-sceilge-principal/ (https://www.radiokerry.ie/maurice-fitzgerald-become-colaiste-na-sceilge-principal/)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on September 29, 2018, 12:20:39 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 28, 2018, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 28, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Maurice has been a teacher with years. He's also an auctioneer/estate agent.

Given that he has become principal of Coláiste na Sceilge in Cahersiveen he won't have much time for auctioneering or managing a county football team.

https://www.radiokerry.ie/maurice-fitzgerald-become-colaiste-na-sceilge-principal/ (https://www.radiokerry.ie/maurice-fitzgerald-become-colaiste-na-sceilge-principal/)

Every for sale sign in south Kerry is Maurice. I'm sure the lads in the office do the actual work.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 29, 2018, 12:33:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 29, 2018, 12:20:39 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 28, 2018, 11:05:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 28, 2018, 08:46:27 PM
Maurice has been a teacher with years. He's also an auctioneer/estate agent.

Given that he has become principal of Coláiste na Sceilge in Cahersiveen he won't have much time for auctioneering or managing a county football team.

https://www.radiokerry.ie/maurice-fitzgerald-become-colaiste-na-sceilge-principal/ (https://www.radiokerry.ie/maurice-fitzgerald-become-colaiste-na-sceilge-principal/)

Every for sale sign in south Kerry is Maurice. I'm sure the lads in the office do the actual work.

Not to mention the decline in student numbers...1999 had 778 students, down to 471 last school year.  Not that the job is any easier with fewer students.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Vibes are we're going for a hometown appointment.
Nigel's appointment would make Syfīn's year :D ;D
Nigel now free with Strokestown losing to Brigids today ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 30, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Vibes are we're going for a hometown appointment.
Nigel's appointment would make Syfīn's year :D ;D
Nigel now free with Strokestown losing to Brigids today ;)

Would ye consider Solan at all?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 01, 2018, 12:03:38 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 30, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Vibes are we're going for a hometown appointment.
Nigel's appointment would make Syfīn's year :D ;D
Nigel now free with Strokestown losing to Brigids today ;)

Would ye consider Solan at all?

Solan would be better than most of the options in the county. I'd prefer Rochford if it came to that, though. No one really knows fúck all about who's been asked or even who is after the job right now, whatever Rossfan says.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on October 01, 2018, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 01, 2018, 12:03:38 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 30, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Vibes are we're going for a hometown appointment.
Nigel's appointment would make Syfīn's year :D ;D
Nigel now free with Strokestown losing to Brigids today ;)

Would ye consider Solan at all?

Solan would be better than most of the options in the county. I'd prefer Rochford if it came to that, though. No one really knows fúck all about who's been asked or even who is after the job right now, whatever Rossfan says.

Why Rochford?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 01, 2018, 02:24:04 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 01, 2018, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 01, 2018, 12:03:38 AM
Quote from: moysider on September 30, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Vibes are we're going for a hometown appointment.
Nigel's appointment would make Syfīn's year :D ;D
Nigel now free with Strokestown losing to Brigids today ;)

Would ye consider Solan at all?

Solan would be better than most of the options in the county. I'd prefer Rochford if it came to that, though. No one really knows fúck all about who's been asked or even who is after the job right now, whatever Rossfan says.

Why Rochford?

Because he at least has senior IC experience. Beggers can't be choosers. Give me your hated duo at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 01, 2018, 11:55:36 AM
Syfīn showing his love of all things Rhubarb again😁.
"Nige" is the man!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 01, 2018, 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: moysider on September 30, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Vibes are we're going for a hometown appointment.
Nigel's appointment would make Syfīn's year :D ;D
Nigel now free with Strokestown losing to Brigids today ;)

Would ye consider Solan at all?

Looks like Solan will be staying on with the Mayo U20s.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 04, 2018, 05:19:41 PM
Seems Peter Keane to be recommended to Kerry CB to succeed Fitzmaurice.
Meanwhile we appear not to be bothering looking for anyone ::)
Nige/Casey favourites according to the whispers in the bushes.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: highorlow on October 04, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
http://www.the42.ie/peter-keane-kerry-football-manager-4268698-Oct2018/


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 04, 2018, 09:13:15 PM
Louth have announced Wayne Kierans as their new senior football manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Real Talk on October 08, 2018, 04:37:24 PM
Is that all the vacant County Managers posts filled now ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on October 08, 2018, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on October 08, 2018, 04:37:24 PM
Is that all the vacant County Managers posts filled now ?

rossies?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 08, 2018, 05:14:10 PM
We're still awaiting white smoke from the Hatch :-\
Maybe we'll start a new trend of not bothering with a manager at all!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 08, 2018, 05:17:47 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2018, 05:14:10 PM
We're still awaiting white smoke from the Hatch :-\
Maybe we'll start a new trend of not bothering with a manager at all!!
A player manager, which one of the players would be most suitable for that role?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 08, 2018, 05:30:33 PM
Cathal Cregg on seniority grounds and could triple up as S&C coach.
Or Devaney who may be the only one with an All Ireland medal next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 08, 2018, 06:04:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2018, 05:30:33 PM
Cathal Cregg on seniority grounds and could triple up as S&C coach.
Or Devaney who may be the only one with an All Ireland medal next year.

Ronan Stack has an AI club medal which was harder won than a minor AI.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 08, 2018, 06:39:24 PM
Talking County childeen.
Batin Galway, RhubarbIan,  Meath and Kerry wasn't too easy.
Ronan Stack unlikely to be there next year anyway.
No doubt you'll be slobbering over the Biddies next Sunday despite them being 50 km or more away from you ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 08, 2018, 06:47:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 10:55:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 10:20:21 PM
They moved fair quick.
At least he'll get to watch a good scatter of club games.

Must be disappointing for you to watch hiring and firing season in full swing and you not able to rouse the troops for a push on McStay at all.
He did it all by himself :P
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 08, 2018, 10:36:52 PM
Kerry ratified Peter Keane as their new Senior Football Manager tonight on a three year term,  his Management team are Donie Buckley, Maurice Fitzgerald, Tommy Griffin & James Foley
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 09, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
Who's still managerless? Roscommon and who else?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tippabu on October 09, 2018, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 09, 2018, 10:32:33 AM
Who's still managerless? Roscommon and who else?

Dublin hurlers would be the only other high profile job I can think?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 09, 2018, 04:52:08 PM
Managers for Next Year

Donegal    Declan Bonner
Derry    Damian McErlain
Antrim    Lenny Harbinson
Down   Paddy Tally
Armagh    Kieran McGeeney
Monaghan Malachy O'Rourke
Cavan    Mickey Graham
Fermanagh  Rory Gallagher
Tyrone    Mickey Harte
   
Sligo    Paul Taylor
Leitrim    Terry Hyland
Roscommon   
Mayo           James Horan
Galway    Shane Walsh
London    Ciaran Deely
   
Clare    Colm Collins
Limerick   Billy Lee
Tipperary   Liam Kearns
Waterford    Benji Whelan
Cork    Ronan McCarthy
Kerry    Peter Keane
   
Louth    Wayne Kerins
Meath    Andy McEntee
Westmeath  Jack Cooney
Longford    Padraic Davis
Laois    John Sugrue
Offaly    John Maughan
Carlow    Turlough O'Brien
Wexford    Paul McLoughlin
Wicklow   John Evans
Dublin    Jim Gavin
Kildare    Cian O'Neill
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 09, 2018, 05:40:39 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 09, 2018, 04:52:08 PM
Galway    Shane Walsh
Interesting that Galway are going with a player manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on October 10, 2018, 10:50:44 AM
Are the Rossies not getting the Dubs ladies lad?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 10, 2018, 11:16:10 AM
Seems that bird has flown
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/roscommon-looking-outside-the-county-for-mcstays-successor-874803.html
Some very worrying names mentioned there.
Co Board giving a resounding vote of no confidence to the locals.
Departing manager not helping either by all accounts.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 19, 2018, 07:41:03 PM
https://donegalgaa.ie/2018/10/19/clg-dhun-na-ngall-wish-to-announce-the-following-the-following-changes-to-the-county-senior-football-backroom-team/

QuoteDun na nGall wish to announce that following our successful year of 2018 that the following Coaching and Mentoring personell of Karl Lacey, Anthony Mc Grath, and John Mc Elhome shall leave the Senior Football backroom team. We thank them for their committed dedication to the development of our County squad.

We further announce that Stephen Rochford and Aaron Kyles shall join Declan Bonner's Coaching staff for 2019, we welcome both, and look forward to their involvement.

Declan Bonner is currently abroad on a work commitment, and we would request all members of the media to respect that.

Mick Mc Grath

County Chairman

CLG Dhun na nGall.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 19, 2018, 09:09:27 PM
Ex-Armagh Footballer Aidan O'Rourke strongly linked tonight to become the next Roscommon senior manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 19, 2018, 09:16:28 PM
Hmmmmmm....
Has the Hatch spoken?
Was supposed to be a done deal Tuesday or Wednesday and then not happening as he had no Rossies in his proposed back room.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 19, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
One of bits chief trumpets has tweeted anyways
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 20, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 19, 2018, 07:41:03 PM
https://donegalgaa.ie/2018/10/19/clg-dhun-na-ngall-wish-to-announce-the-following-the-following-changes-to-the-county-senior-football-backroom-team/

QuoteDun na nGall wish to announce that following our successful year of 2018 that the following Coaching and Mentoring personell of Karl Lacey, Anthony Mc Grath, and John Mc Elhome shall leave the Senior Football backroom team. We thank them for their committed dedication to the development of our County squad.

We further announce that Stephen Rochford and Aaron Kyles shall join Declan Bonner's Coaching staff for 2019, we welcome both, and look forward to their involvement.

Declan Bonner is currently abroad on a work commitment, and we would request all members of the media to respect that.

Mick Mc Grath

County Chairman

CLG Dhun na nGall.

Interesting. Are we looking for a bit of outside help and expertise as we try to evolve some more away from the blanket approach?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 20, 2018, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 19, 2018, 07:41:03 PM
https://donegalgaa.ie/2018/10/19/clg-dhun-na-ngall-wish-to-announce-the-following-the-following-changes-to-the-county-senior-football-backroom-team/

QuoteDun na nGall wish to announce that following our successful year of 2018 that the following Coaching and Mentoring personell of Karl Lacey, Anthony Mc Grath, and John Mc Elhome shall leave the Senior Football backroom team. We thank them for their committed dedication to the development of our County squad.

We further announce that Stephen Rochford and Aaron Kyles shall join Declan Bonner's Coaching staff for 2019, we welcome both, and look forward to their involvement.

Declan Bonner is currently abroad on a work commitment, and we would request all members of the media to respect that.

Mick Mc Grath

County Chairman

CLG Dhun na nGall.

Interesting. Are we looking for a bit of outside help and expertise as we try to evolve some more away from the blanket approach?

Michael Murphy at FB 2019
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on October 22, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
Will the Rossies be happy with O'Rourke?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 22, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
Will the Rossies be happy with O'Rourke?

No.

He might have a good backroom team if rumours are to be believed, at least.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 22, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
Will the Rossies be happy with O'Rourke?

No

He might have a good backroom team if rumours are to be beehives at least.

As A Rossie syf doesn't speak for us all.

Backroom tea  will be deciding factor.  It let the last big name front man down....

O'Rourke probably better than anyone else who was interested but it sums up how low the external opinion of Ross football despite being in D1 and super 8s that this is as good as we get,

Nigel Dineen was the outstanding local candidates has question marks also
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 22, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
Will the Rossies be happy with O'Rourke?

No

He might have a good backroom team if rumours are to be beehives at least.

As A Rossie syf doesn't speak for us all.

Backroom tea  will be deciding factor.  It let the last big name front man down....

O'Rourke probably better than anyone else who was interested but it sums up how low the external opinion of Ross football despite being in D1 and super 8s that this is as good as we get,

Nigel Dineen was the outstanding local candidates has question marks also

I speak for everyone

Including you
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 22, 2018, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?
McGurn won't come cheap. Aidan O'Rourke has had less outright management positions than the last Roscommon Manager McStay so he'll certainly need a good backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Smurfy123 on October 22, 2018, 05:46:31 PM
Many county teams about ulster would not have McGurn anywhere near the place. He has not got a clue and got sacked from Armagh and a few club teams about here. Bad move
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 06:13:54 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 22, 2018, 05:46:31 PM
Many county teams about ulster would not have McGurn anywhere near the place. He has not got a clue and got sacked from Armagh and a few club teams about here. Bad move

I believe neither the glowing praise nor this.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Smurfy123 on October 22, 2018, 06:17:28 PM
What would that be syferus?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.

In other words you wish him the best as you sharpen the knife.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.

In other words you wish him the best as you sharpen the knife.

I don't do knife sharpening but I know how the pea-brained GAA supporters in every county operate.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 22, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.

Who's not available next year?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 07:00:02 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 22, 2018, 06:45:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.

Who's not available next year?

Not going to name any names but there's about half a dozen of the panel who will be unavailable for next season because they're travelling in the summer or for other non-football reasons. Some may be tempted to stick around to stay up in the league before they go so it's counterproductive to say more.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 22, 2018, 07:44:34 PM
They were unavailable to McStay.
Let's see who's unavailable when the new man comes calling.
Syferus still pining for McStay,  the man who resigned because he knew what he delivered wasn't good enough especially the lack of defending.
Syferus blowing about reaching AI Qtr Finals 2 years in a row was manager if the century stuff -ignoring losing 4 of the 5 games by a total of almost 70 points.
Well see how the new management team doestrogen while eejits continues to run them down because they're not from feckin Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on October 22, 2018, 08:02:24 PM
Other eejits preferred when we were losing to Sligo as thery weren't getting beaten in Qf.

I hope our players are half as good as some think they are but after 6 years of JE & McStay I think we are around our level. Top d2 team not good enough for summer football.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 22, 2018, 08:34:14 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 22, 2018, 08:02:24 PM
Other eejits preferred when we were losing to Sligo as thery weren’t getting beaten in Qf.

I hope our players are half as good as some think they are but after 6 years of JE & McStay I think we are around our level. Top d2 team not good enough for summer football.
If Roscommon can rise from Div 4 in 2011 to a Div 1 semi final in 2016 and be able to beat Galway by 9 points last year in the Connacht final then i'd wonder what Roscommon could do if they became a consistent and well organized side?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 22, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
Will the Rossies be happy with O'Rourke?

No

He might have a good backroom team if rumours are to be beehives at least.

As A Rossie syf doesn't speak for us all.

Backroom tea  will be deciding factor.  It let the last big name front man down....

O'Rourke probably better than anyone else who was interested but it sums up how low the external opinion of Ross football despite being in D1 and super 8s that this is as good as we get,

Nigel Dineen was the outstanding local candidates has question marks also

I speak for everyone

Including you

Trust me whoever u are, you don't speak for me and your knowledge of all football  including Roscommon is similar to a turd  dropped last week
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 22, 2018, 03:46:49 PM
Will the Rossies be happy with O'Rourke?

No

He might have a good backroom team if rumours are to be beehives at least.

As A Rossie syf doesn't speak for us all.

Backroom tea  will be deciding factor.  It let the last big name front man down....

O'Rourke probably better than anyone else who was interested but it sums up how low the external opinion of Ross football despite being in D1 and super 8s that this is as good as we get,

Nigel Dineen was the outstanding local candidates has question marks also

I speak for everyone

Including you

Trust me whoever u are, you don't speak for me and your knowledge of all football  including Roscommon is similar to a turd  dropped last week

If I'm a turd you're the hollowed out carcass of an old turd

I only speak the truth
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 08:53:20 PM
R4ad whatb i said.

Are you so deluded you think your opinion represents a consensus of all Roscommon...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 08:53:20 PM
R4ad whatb i said.

Are you so deluded you think your opinion represents a consensus of all Roscommon...

I don't think it

I know it
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 22, 2018, 09:03:05 PM
Just for the record Syferus never speaks for me.
Nor for 95% of Roscommon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 22, 2018, 09:06:31 PM
No white smoke on the Roscommon manager yet. Roscommon GAA have tweeted "our preferred candidate has requested additional time to confirm one additional member of his backroom team"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 22, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Check that  man's sanity.

Meanwhile we wait on Stephen poacher to leave  carlow and join us
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 22, 2018, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 22, 2018, 09:03:05 PM
Just for the record Syferus never speaks for me.
Nor for 95% of Roscommon.

So he speaks for 5% of Ross? Not bad
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Smurfy123 on October 22, 2018, 09:26:40 PM
Stephen Poacher involved with Carlow so I would imagine it's to give him time to let them know.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on October 22, 2018, 09:26:40 PM
Stephen Poacher involved with Carlow so I would imagine it's to give him time to let them know.

Do they not have electrification in Carlow yet
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 22, 2018, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

He managed Queens to a Sigerson? Don't think so. Maybe part of a backroom team but he certainly was not manager. The only job he has had as actual front man manager to the best of my knowledge was Louth and based on memory it was a disaster.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

He managed Queens to a Sigerson? Don't think so. Maybe part of a backroom team but he certainly was not manager. The only job he has had as actual front man manager to the best of my knowledge was Louth and based on memory it was a disaster.

Assistant manager with Queens and they haven't got close to winning the Sigerson cup since that win. Look at where Louth are now after a number of managers, I think that says more about Louth than O'Rourke.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 09:49:26 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

He managed Queens to a Sigerson? Don't think so. Maybe part of a backroom team but he certainly was not manager. The only job he has had as actual front man manager to the best of my knowledge was Louth and based on memory it was a disaster.

Assistant manager with Queens and they haven't got close to winning the Sigerson cup since that win. Look at where Louth are now after a number of managers, I think that says more about Louth than O'Rourke.

A poor workman blames his tools..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on October 22, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
Is it true that McStay is going to manage castlebar next year?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 22, 2018, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on October 22, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
Is it true that McStay is going to manage castlebar next year?
If true his retirement didn't last long.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 02:15:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

These players have achieved more in the last ten years than O'Rourke has so you could as easily be referring to them dragging him over the line.

It's far from a done deal so your man may not even be good enough to make the first hurdle..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: onefaircounty on October 23, 2018, 02:35:59 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.


Not the first time I've heard the Louth thing. His two years there included a fourth placed finish in Division Two, a 10-point Leinster win over Laois, coming within a point of a Leinster semi-final, a five-point Leinster win over Westmeath and a qualifier win. They'd kill for that now.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 02:43:18 AM
Quote from: onefaircounty on October 23, 2018, 02:35:59 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 22, 2018, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: ck on October 22, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
A strange choice for the Rossies! As a Sligo man I would be pleasantly surprised as I thought they had more buying power. O'Rourke was with Kildare, Down, Armagh, Louth and Queen's winning a grand total of nothing. A modern day GAA journeyman.

Who's in his backroom team?

He won the Sigerson cup with Queens and was on the Kildare management that reached the All Ireland semi final and very close to winning it. If the rossies manage that they will be more than happy I'd say.

Quote from: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Mike McGurn the S&C coach. A good few Roscommon  players need good conditioning.

Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

Plenty in the county less than happy with the appointment. It's no surprise to see you Stanning for an Armagh man, though.

The same tîts in the county who complained about what McStay's cost was better keep their knives sharpened because O'Rourke and his buddies won't be coming in cheapily. I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that amount of money.

If he gets the job I wish him the best but he has a hard task ahead of him given his track record in Louth and the players that won't be available next year.


Not the first time I've heard the Louth thing. His two years there included a fourth placed finish in Division Two, a 10-point Leinster win over Laois, coming within a point of a Leinster semi-final, a five-point Leinster win over Westmeath and a qualifier win. They'd kill for that now.

We wouldn't.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 02:57:44 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 02:15:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

These players have achieved more in the last ten years than O'Rourke has so you could as easily be referring to them dragging him over the line.

It's far from a done deal so your man may not even be good enough to make the first hurdle..

Mike McGurn I said would be a very good appointment. A native of Enniskillen, County Fermanagh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 03:10:19 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 02:57:44 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 02:15:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

These players have achieved more in the last ten years than O'Rourke has so you could as easily be referring to them dragging him over the line.

It's far from a done deal so your man may not even be good enough to make the first hurdle..

Mike McGurn I said would be a very good appointment. A native of Enniskillen, County Fermanagh.

Did Fermanagh get removed from Ulster when I wasn't watching?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: stephenite on October 23, 2018, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Are you Roy Curtis?

I'm ambivalent about the appointment at best, but you're just trotting out the worst cliches here.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2018, 08:00:35 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 23, 2018, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Are you Roy Curtis?

I'm ambivalent about the appointment at best, but you're just trotting out the worst cliches here.

Hence his username.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 11:23:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 03:10:19 AM
Did Fermanagh get removed from Ulster when I wasn't watching?

Everyone from Ulster is not my man.

Quote from: stephenite on October 23, 2018, 07:23:51 AM

I'm ambivalent about the appointment at best, but you're just trotting out the worst cliches here.
I was just following on from a worse cliché from Syferus. His CV speaks for itself however most of his success has been with professionals. Open to correction I but I don't think Roscommon had someone of his calibre on their management team before though they aren't professionals and it depends if their players have the time to buy into what he wants to achieve.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 23, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
Seems we have a meeting pencilled in for tomorrow night which hopefully will bring the saga to a close.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on October 23, 2018, 01:10:55 PM
At this stage you'd expect the County Board's "preferred" candidate as they tweeted will be put forward tomorrow night, otherwise they will have to go with tail between legs to a non-preferred candidate. We await further Tweets from the Hatch, pun intended.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 23, 2018, 01:29:36 PM
Someone needs to lock Duke away for a week or 2.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on October 23, 2018, 01:46:54 PM
Quote from: stephenite on October 23, 2018, 07:23:51 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2018, 01:31:47 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 22, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2018, 05:01:40 PM
Very good appointment there if the players buy into it.

It's his job to get the players to buy into it, if they don't it's a bad appointment and he will have failed.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Are you Roy Curtis?

I'm ambivalent about the appointment at best, but you're just trotting out the worst cliches here.

It's time to make Roscommon great again.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 23, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
Changed times for Roscommon. Reading back I see when John Evans was appointed he was given an extra few weeks to announce his back room team. Now you can't be appointed without a backroom team in place.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: spuds on October 23, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
Any truth that O'Rourke had no Roscommon man on his ticket?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on October 23, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: spuds on October 23, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
Any truth that O'Rourke had no Roscommon man on his ticket?

None named yet, but no clear whether the hold up is a local selector, or waiting on another outsider to commit (Poacher has been mentioned).
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 23, 2018, 02:22:34 PM
Kildare All Ireland U20 winning manager has stepped aside and not on good terms https://www.kildarenow.com/sport/ireland-u20-winning-manager-fires-parting-shot-county-board-burke-resigns-kildare-role/254120
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 23, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: weareros on October 23, 2018, 01:59:29 PM
Quote from: spuds on October 23, 2018, 01:54:38 PM
Any truth that O'Rourke had no Roscommon man on his ticket?

None named yet, but no clear whether the hold up is a local selector, or waiting on another outsider to commit (Poacher has been mentioned).


Syferus will change his tune once he gets the call from the North
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 23, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Hopefully from their Prison service.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 23, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Hopefully from their Prison service.....

Are you ok?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 23, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
Looking at O'Rourke record when he was in charge of Louth the big red flag for me is how they did in his 2nd year there.

In his 1st year there Louth played 11 games, won 5, drew 1, lost 5.
In his 2nd year in charge Louth played 10 games, won 1, drew 2 and lost 7.
That one win in 2014 was against Westmeath who didn't win a game that year, so it really doesn't paint a pretty picture of how things went.
The also were on the end of a 19 point hammering by Down in the league. ???

No-one's expecting Louth to be world-beaters, but when there is a marked decline in the 2nd year of management, that's not a good sign of the management.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 23, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
Looking at O'Rourke record when he was in charge of Louth the big red flag for me is how they did in his 2nd year there.

In his 1st year there Louth played 11 games, won 5, drew 1, lost 5.
In his 2nd year in charge Louth played 10 games, won 1, drew 2 and lost 7.
That one win in 2014 was against Westmeath who didn't win a game that year, so it really doesn't paint a pretty picture of how things went.
The also were on the end of a 19 point hammering by Down in the league. ???

No-one's expecting Louth to be world-beaters, but when there is a marked decline in the 2nd year of management, that's not a good sign of the management.

So you're saying paying a couple hundred thousand over the course of a few years to finance his set-up and his personal last chance saloon at senior IC mightn't be the wisest choice for a county facing the high bar of D1 football and aiming for at least AIQFs? Well, golly gosh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 23, 2018, 05:35:36 PM
I see the childeen  who knows everything has our alleged new manager declared a failure already.
By the way his new phrase of "IC" (joins Mull,  Murt,  TOR etc) can stand for Inter Club or Inter County.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on October 23, 2018, 10:15:02 PM
Aidan O'Rourke withdraws (was planning to have Karl Lacey on ticket), and Ros CB have a cut at unnamed people trying to undermine the process and the keyboard warriors!

A lot to discuss (or not)

https://t.co/SL0TA3a4AN?amp=1 (https://t.co/SL0TA3a4AN?amp=1)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
Looks like Cap'n's (and that eejit from our own county above) man fell flat into the first fence post. There was a reason I wasn't getting my hopes up.

Contact David Casey and try to convince him to take the job. And the money men should be willing to back him to the degree they were willing to with O'Rourke. In the long term, an inside man rather than a C list outside coach (if someone like Bohan could have been convinced I'd have been singing a very different tune) is better for the health of the county team and the county as a whole.

I see wee Seamie is having a veiled shot at Seanie Mac for speaking out at the weekend in the official press release as if he was the cause of this fûcking about. That fella should have the good sense to show a lot more respect to one of the best servants of Roscommon football in his or anyone else's lifetime. The lad is barely two months retired and he's getting shouted at by the CB. You couldn't dream it up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 23, 2018, 10:49:04 PM
QuoteRoscommon Manager Update
Oct 23,2018
Roscommon GAA wish to clarify the situation around the appointment of a senior football team manager.

The process to select a manager commenced on September 10th when the committee was ratified by Roscommon Co Board and given the mandate to recruit a new Senior Team Manager. The committee consisted of Chairman Seamus Sweeney. Secretary Brian Carroll and Treasurer of the county board David O'Connor and they were joined by Niall Carty former Roscommon Senior team captain and Ciarán Heneghan a former Roscommon senior footballer.

Following a five-week consultation period involving a number of candidates, this included the sole nominee from the clubs who withdrew from the process and a second Roscommon based candidate who also withdrew from the process having been offered an interview.

Interviews were conducted during week 6 and last night Monday, Oct 22 Roscommon GAA Management Committee expected to be in a position to put the name of the preferred candidate for consideration to the club delegates.

Prior to last night's meeting, the chairman Seamus Sweeney received a phone call from the preferred candidate requesting a 24-hour deferral. This was conveyed to the county board delegates at last night's meeting.

Our preferred candidate was Aidan O'Rourke. His team was to consist of  Mike McGurn Strength and Conditioning, two Roscommon coach/selectors, and a head coach Karl Lacy.

The reason for the delay was because of unexpected doubts in relation to Karl Lacy's availability as head coach. Unfortunately, this morning the county chairman received a call from Aidan O'Rourke informing him that he was withdrawing from the process.

The Roscommon GAA Management committee are very disappointed at the turn of events but are fully committed to completing the selection process. However, the committee is concerned at  attempts that have been made to influence the outcome of the process over recent days. The committee believes that these events have undermined the integrity of the process and potentially affected our ability to attract a new manager.

In addition, some of the public commentary on social media has been extremely unhelpful.

http://www.gaaroscommon.ie/news-detail/10045111/?platform=hootsuite

County Board having a nightmare.

The lads on the selection committee doing all they can to avoid being blamed.

Can't help but think they would have been wiser leaving the last 3 sentences off the the statement - those three lines won't help matters any.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 10:52:12 PM
The Roscommon job was already radioactive. A few more degrees ain't gonna matter much at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: regal on October 23, 2018, 11:29:29 PM
I think Aidan o'Rourke always seemed a peculiar choice. I would have thought a division 1 side with some decent young footballers would have had a little more ambition / foresight.

Roscommon managerial set up / appointments always seem a calamity.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on October 24, 2018, 12:08:20 AM
If those screenshots on stolensheep that showed McGurn soliciting a S&C coach to oversee all S&C duties of a top 8 GAA team next year were legit (no longer visible on LinkedIn), then we caught a lucky break. Seanie Mac was right, the county board need to wake up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on October 24, 2018, 12:19:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 10:52:12 PM
The Roscommon job was already radioactive. A few more degrees ain't gonna matter much at this stage.

Why is it radioactive?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on October 24, 2018, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 12:08:20 AM
If those screenshots on stolensheep that showed McGurn soliciting a S&C coach to oversee all S&C duties of a top 8 GAA team next year were legit (no longer visible on LinkedIn), then we caught a lucky break. Seanie Mac was right, the county board need to wake up.

What was that?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 24, 2018, 12:22:02 AM
Quote from: moysider on October 24, 2018, 12:19:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 23, 2018, 10:52:12 PM
The Roscommon job was already radioactive. A few more degrees ain't gonna matter much at this stage.

Why is it radioactive?

Unreasonable supporters, veiled xenophobia and an obviously incompetent county board. The manager and the players change but those three things have been unchanging over the years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 24, 2018, 12:33:22 AM
And there was me thinking it was changed times for Roscommon. I feel sorry for the players, how can they ever play to the best of their ability or the young players ever reach their potential which such a disorganized county board. 

As the search now goes on the Kildare U20 manager is now available and Roscommon can do a lot worse than him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on October 24, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
I think the Super 8s is going to prove toxic as time goes on for teams like Roscommon, outside the top 4 without realistic chances of a final.
In the "old" format, if they lost a provincial final, beat Armagh in the back door and then say lost by 4 or 5 points in a quarter final it would have been considered a decent season with something to build for next year.
With the new format the last memory is of three high profile games lost, the next season then seems very difficult. I think that is the potential negative to the super 8s, teams who didnt have the quality would be one game and out in the quarters, now they have to endure three which makes them feel they are miles off.
I hope they bin this after the three years and go back to the old system. The problem with the championship is not at the top, its at the bottom.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on October 24, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
Subject to approval from the Hatch.

In light of the tardiness of Dublin County Board to appoint hurling manager, the Roscommon County Board will appoint Anthony Cunningham as manager.

This can been seen as a small recompense to Brigids after Paddy Neilan giving Clann the County Final.

Frankie Dolan and Cake will join as selectors. Kevin can steer in the background without listening to supporters' crap.

In the event of a general election, cake will stand aside to join Eugene Murphy on Fianna Fáil ticket.

The Hatch will nominate a replacement selector if required.

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
What about our system of appointing managers?
We must be a right laughing stock in the other 31 Counties! !
We'll just have to bite the bullet and appoint Syfīn with Orchard as his number 2.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 24, 2018, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: iorras on October 24, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
I think the Super 8s is going to prove toxic as time goes on for teams like Roscommon, outside the top 4 without realistic chances of a final.
In the "old" format, if they lost a provincial final, beat Armagh in the back door and then say lost by 4 or 5 points in a quarter final it would have been considered a decent season with something to build for next year.
With the new format the last memory is of three high profile games lost, the next season then seems very difficult. I think that is the potential negative to the super 8s, teams who didnt have the quality would be one game and out in the quarters, now they have to endure three which makes them feel they are miles off.
I hope they bin this after the three years and go back to the old system. The problem with the championship is not at the top, its at the bottom.

The problem is very much at the top. One team has warped all perspective in this sport.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on October 24, 2018, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
What about our system of appointing managers?
We must be a right laughing stock in the other 31 Counties! !
We'll just have to bite the bullet and appoint Syfīn with Orchard as his number 2.

Our selection committee is top heavy with officials. It's got the chairman, the secretary and the treasurer and two ex county players. Only Niall Carty gives me any confidence in that team as a young player who understands the modern game and panel. Also not good optics that a family member of one of the commitee is tweeting blaming all and sundry. They all need to lay off social media and stop feeding the two local journalists.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: highorlow on October 24, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Poor Ross

QuoteHow does a man resign two days after his management team for next season was announced? Surely that's an incredible statement on the lack of faith he has in Forde et al?

Or is this yet more primmadonna stuff from players who are most definitely past their best?


Now back to minding your own business goola
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 24, 2018, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: highorlow on October 24, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Poor Ross

QuoteHow does a man resign two days after his management team for next season was announced? Surely that's an incredible statement on the lack of faith he has in Forde et al?

Or is this yet more primmadonna stuff from players who are most definitely past their best?


Now back to minding your own business goola

O'Rourke never had the job to begin with.

Don't let little things like facts get in the way of embarassing yourself, though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
What about our system of appointing managers?
We must be a right laughing stock in the other 31 Counties! !
We'll just have to bite the bullet and appoint Syfīn with Orchard as his number 2.

y. They all need to lay off social media and stop feeding the two local journalists.
+1.
It's some farce alright and certainly not helped by Duke and Cooney gushing forth every snippet on Twitter.
Whatever was going on the last few days we're now left as a toxic outfit whom no one in their right minds would go near.
We're now left with any local man who hasn't already been told to keep away from the job......Tully, Staunton or godhelpus altogether Cakeen :-[
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Oldira on October 24, 2018, 12:59:37 PM
For those complaining about Duke and Cooney..Its a poor journalist that writes as a fan rather than an impartial observer.  Its not a journalists job to act as cheerleader for the county board or whoever. Their job is to ferret out facts and publish them. Ecpecting a journalist to say nothing 'for the good of the county' would make them very poor journalists.

I would be giving Tommy Conroy a shout. I am sure he wants to manage the county team eventually but this would give him a chance to cut his teeth. Seems to be a good man manager dealing with lads like Connolly etc
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 24, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
What about our system of appointing managers?
We must be a right laughing stock in the other 31 Counties! !
We'll just have to bite the bullet and appoint Syfīn with Orchard as his number 2.

y. They all need to lay off social media and stop feeding the two local journalists.
+1.
It's some farce alright and certainly not helped by Duke and Cooney gushing forth every snippet on Twitter.
Whatever was going on the last few days we're now left as a toxic outfit whom no one in their right minds would go near.
We're now left with any local man who hasn't already been told to keep away from the job......Tully, Staunton or godhelpus altogether Cakeen :-[

I know the above post was tongue in cheek but if available Anthony Cunningham would be a decent appointment with a decent CV. Does he still live in Roscommon? he would have a fair idea on the quality of players to choose from.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on October 24, 2018, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 12:44:50 PM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 24, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
What about our system of appointing managers?
We must be a right laughing stock in the other 31 Counties! !
We'll just have to bite the bullet and appoint Syfīn with Orchard as his number 2.

y. They all need to lay off social media and stop feeding the two local journalists.
+1.
It's some farce alright and certainly not helped by Duke and Cooney gushing forth every snippet on Twitter.
Whatever was going on the last few days we're now left as a toxic outfit whom no one in their right minds would go near.
We're now left with any local man who hasn't already been told to keep away from the job......Tully, Staunton or godhelpus altogether Cakeen :-[

I see you're from the Donald Trump school of only reporting the news when it's favourable.

Figures.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on October 24, 2018, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 24, 2018, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 12:08:20 AM
If those screenshots on stolensheep that showed McGurn soliciting a S&C coach to oversee all S&C duties of a top 8 GAA team next year were legit (no longer visible on LinkedIn), then we caught a lucky break. Seanie Mac was right, the county board need to wake up.

What was that?

Apologies for late reply. Someone got a screengrab on LinkedIn before it was deleted where our target S&C man wrote: "If any certified Strength and Conditioning coach would be interested in working with a Senior Inter County Top 8 GAA team next season can you get in touch. The role would involve overseeing all S+C for mens Senior team only."

So looks like our county board were prepared to probably pay big money for a sub-contracted S&C coach sourced over the internet. I mean could you make that stuff up? And they are still lamenting that we lost this guy.


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on October 25, 2018, 12:54:07 AM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: moysider on October 24, 2018, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: weareros on October 24, 2018, 12:08:20 AM
If those screenshots on stolensheep that showed McGurn soliciting a S&C coach to oversee all S&C duties of a top 8 GAA team next year were legit (no longer visible on LinkedIn), then we caught a lucky break. Seanie Mac was right, the county board need to wake up.

What was that?

Apologies for late reply. Someone got a screengrab on LinkedIn before it was deleted where our target S&C man wrote: "If any certified Strength and Conditioning coach would be interested in working with a Senior Inter County Top 8 GAA team next season can you get in touch. The role would involve overseeing all S+C for mens Senior team only."

So looks like our county board were prepared to probably pay big money for a sub-contracted S&C coach sourced over the internet. I mean could you make that stuff up? And they are still lamenting that we lost this guy.

Sharp intake of breath!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on October 25, 2018, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: Oldira on October 24, 2018, 12:59:37 PM
For those complaining about Duke and Cooney..Its a poor journalist that writes as a fan rather than an impartial observer.  Its not a journalists job to act as cheerleader for the county board or whoever. Their job is to ferret out facts and publish them. Ecpecting a journalist to say nothing 'for the good of the county' would make them very poor journalists.

I would be giving Tommy Conroy a shout. I am sure he wants to manage the county team eventually but this would give him a chance to cut his teeth. Seems to be a good man manager dealing with lads like Connolly etc


No idea if interested  but achieved much more than his higher profile replacement has with Vincents
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 25, 2018, 09:52:15 AM
I see Duke in the Hatch News is referring to player unhappiness with  O'Rourke as the main reason for him pulling out.
Is that fact or planred CB spin via Hatch crew?
If only moneyman/CB hadn't pissed off Nigel...... :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 25, 2018, 11:26:34 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 25, 2018, 09:52:15 AM
I see Duke in the Hatch News is referring to player unhappiness with  O'Rourke as the main reason for him pulling out.
Is that fact or planred CB spin via Hatch crew?
If only moneyman/CB hadn't pissed off Nigel...... :-\

Looks like spin as O'Rourke by the looks of it was struggling to put a backroom team together. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 03, 2018, 05:31:20 PM
Mattie kenny appointed dublin hurling manager on a 3 year term. That leaves just Roscommon in football or hurling without a manager and its been rumoured like their last manager he will be an outsider that is living in Roscommon.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on November 03, 2018, 05:53:10 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 03, 2018, 05:31:20 PM
Mattie kenny appointed dublin hurling manager on a 3 year term. That leaves just Roscommon in football or hurling without a manager and its been rumoured like their last manager he will be an outsider that is living in Roscommon.

Anthony Cunningham?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 03, 2018, 05:56:09 PM
He's the latest rumour doing the rounds.
However for the conspiracy theorists Frankie Dolan has stepped Fownhope ad Brigids manager.
All to be revealed mid week I'm told.
Then again I've been told a lot of things........
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: larryin89 on November 04, 2018, 10:52:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 03, 2018, 05:56:09 PM
He's the latest rumour doing the rounds.
However for the conspiracy theorists Frankie Dolan has stepped Fownhope ad Brigids manager.
All to be revealed mid week I'm told.
Then again I've been told a lot of things........

Mulryan down Sylvester's clubhouse with a  cheque book for syls and jack shhedy  I'm hearing.  :)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 05, 2018, 02:29:58 AM
That rumour doing the rounds too.
Frightening the levels of nobodies we're now being associated with :-\
If only our know all committee and € man had the dacency to engage with David Casey ..m.. :-[
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 06, 2018, 01:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on October 24, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
Subject to approval from the Hatch.

In light of the tardiness of Dublin County Board to appoint hurling manager, the Roscommon County Board will appoint Anthony Cunningham as manager.


Stay tuned...Dispatch from the Hatch coming up.

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 06, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
Have you a hotline to th'oul Hatch :D
In the stolen sheep poll Cunningham finished 2nd.
1st place went to None of the above :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 06, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
Have you a hotline to th'oul Hatch :D
In the stolen sheep poll Cunningham finished 2nd.
1st place went to None of the above :-\


Yerra even the boys uptown in the Central and JJs know about Cunningham at this stage .....

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on November 06, 2018, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 06, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
Have you a hotline to th'oul Hatch :D
In the stolen sheep poll Cunningham finished 2nd.
1st place went to None of the above :-\


Yerra even the boys uptown in the Central and JJs know about Cunningham at this stage .....

/Jim.

But the decision will be in mccranns
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 07, 2018, 03:43:21 PM
Manning and the Ros contingent can discuss the new appt here.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 07, 2018, 04:01:45 PM
We may as well wait till it's made first.
Around Christmas Eve.... :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on November 07, 2018, 04:37:48 PM
Kevin McStay pulled no punches describing the reality of being Roscommon manager when he retired.


https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0905/991869-kevin-mcstay-steps-down-as-roscommon-manager/

"I've done three years, every one of them challenging and sometimes exhausting. In reviewing my time in charge I have to acknowledge the inordinate amount of time I spent dealing with financial and facility issues, personnel issues, media issues and the various contentious and controversial events that kept arising over those seasons.
"Success is what we all crave but we must understand our reality too. While Roscommon is a proud football county, it is a small county with a limited playing pool and deficits in resources and facilities. The budget required to finance success at the highest level demands year-round attention.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
Seafoid discovers article that's literally two months old to the shock of no one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 07, 2018, 05:18:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
Seafoid discovers article that's literally two months old to the shock of no one.

Well the Ros CB must still be in a bit of a shock seeing they haven't appointed anyone yet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on November 07, 2018, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
Seafoid discovers article that's literally two months old to the shock of no one.
Syferus insists that the structural problems affecting Ros football
over the last 3 years have all miraculously disappeared in recent weeks

https://youtu.be/GIQn8pab8Vc
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 05:31:21 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 07, 2018, 05:18:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
Seafoid discovers article that's literally two months old to the shock of no one.

Well the Ros CB must still be in a bit of a shock seeing they haven't appointed anyone yet.

No one in the county that has any sense is surprised it's taken this long. Des Newton was appointed in mid November..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 07, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
And we saw how that turned out... :'( :'(
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
And we saw how that turned out... :'( :'(

I thought all mangers from Roscommon were amazing

Why else would you have a knife sharpened for all outsiders
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on November 07, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
And we saw how that turned out... :'( :'(

I thought all mangers from Roscommon were amazing

Why else would you have a knife sharpened for all outsiders

https://youtu.be/M2ULTkNmIEY
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 07, 2018, 08:45:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
And we saw how that turned out... :'( :'(

I thought all mangers from Roscommon were amazing

Why else would you have a knife sharpened for all outsiders

https://youtu.be/M2ULTkNmIEY

Who would have thought the star above would lead the wise men all the way to Kiltoom. 😀

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on November 07, 2018, 09:56:35 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 07, 2018, 08:45:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 07, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 07, 2018, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 07, 2018, 05:33:58 PM
And we saw how that turned out... :'( :'(

I thought all mangers from Roscommon were amazing

Why else would you have a knife sharpened for all outsiders


https://youtu.be/M2ULTkNmIEY

Who would have thought the star above would lead the wise men all the way to Kiltoom. 😀

I'm hearing it coukd be going to Boyle..... with at least one co board head on a plate

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 08, 2018, 12:04:09 AM
Cathaoirleach or Rúnai?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on November 08, 2018, 08:43:02 AM
Cathairleach.......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 08, 2018, 09:18:09 AM
He seems to have been sidelined since June anyway, apart from going on the Manager Hunting Committee.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orchard park on November 08, 2018, 11:19:47 AM
true, wasnt part of connacht final talks or releases and collectively they arent setting world alight in the management hunt
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 08, 2018, 11:41:51 AM
Anthony Cunningham now also linked to the Antrim senior hurling job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 09, 2018, 02:13:43 PM
Has been reported that the Roscommon county board has called an emergency county board meeting for tonight. Only one item on the agenda: Roscommon senior football team manager.

Appointment to be made or to tell the public that the search is on going?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 09, 2018, 02:46:35 PM
We're going back to a selection committee with a trainer.
If it was good enough in 1943/44........

Committee to comprise of the 3 Senior CB officers and no more than 12 others.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 07:18:27 PM
Roscommon Clubs ratify Anthony Cunningham as the new Roscommon GAA Manager tonight.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 09, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 07:18:27 PM
Roscommon Clubs ratify Anthony Cunningham as the new Roscommon GAA Manager tonight.

Bejaysus.

I'll say this much. He'll get them in serious shape and he has experience at the very top level. Albeit not in football although I know he was successful with Garrycastle. An interesting one no doubt.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 09, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Good luck Anthony and welcome on board.
We should be getting better team organisation and defending anyway.
Back room team vital whoever it will be.
A bit ironic that O'Rourke wasnth ratified till he"finalised his backroom " while AC is ratified as a lone wolf!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 09, 2018, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 07:18:27 PM
Roscommon Clubs ratify Anthony Cunningham as the new Roscommon GAA Manager tonight.

Bejaysus.

I'll say this much. He'll get them in serious shape and he has experience at the very top level. Albeit not in football although I know he was successful with Garrycastle. An interesting one no doubt.

Successful with St Brigids also, led the club to their first ever Connacht Club title.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 09, 2018, 08:12:54 PM
Casey and Nigel as selectors??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.

As it was pointed out to you on the Connacht club thread he wouldn't have achieved what he has done in management if he was as bad as you suggest. O'Rourke in comparison had a poor management CV, name some of these positive traits that was going for him?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.

As it was pointed out to you on the Connacht club thread he wouldn't have achieved what he has done in management if he was as bad as you suggest. O'Rourke in comparison had a poor management CV, name some of these positive traits that was going for him?

The only thing that happened in that thread was my question about why the Dublin CB opted against him when everything was so overwhelmingly in his favour was ignored. What exactly has he achieved? The game is littered with managers who have won provincial club titles and none of them are getting D1 jobs. Were Brigets a tactical masterclass back then or simply a group of talented footballers who won a provincial? I'll admit to not knowing much about Garrycastle bar that it was yet another team he eventually fell out with. Wasted one of the most talented teams (and a couple of careers) in recent memory in Galway, with one final player led push in 2015 that was more in spite of him than anything else and lasted for 2 games.

AOR is a former All Star in this particular sport for one and is known as an innovator. Not that he'd be the best choice either.

I'm from Galway, and don't exactly enjoy tarnishing an ex all Ireland winner for us given we've had so few. I even kind of wish him well in this. The decision is just moronic though
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.

As it was pointed out to you on the Connacht club thread he wouldn't have achieved what he has done in management if he was as bad as you suggest. O'Rourke in comparison had a poor management CV, name some of these positive traits that was going for him?

The only thing that happened in that thread was my question about why the Dublin CB opted against him when everything was so overwhelmingly in his favour was ignored. What exactly has he achieved? The game is littered with managers who have won provincial club titles and none of them are getting D1 jobs. Were Brigets a tactical masterclass back then or simply a group of talented footballers who won a provincial? I'll admit to not knowing much about Garrycastle bar that it was yet another team he eventually fell out with. Wasted one of the most talented teams (and a couple of careers) in recent memory in Galway, with one final player led push in 2015 that was more in spite of him than anything else and lasted for 2 games.

AOR is a former All Star in this particular sport for one and is known as an innovator. Not that he'd be the best choice either.

I'm from Galway, and don't exactly enjoy tarnishing an ex all Ireland winner for us given we've had so few. I even kind of wish him well in this. The decision is just moronic though

You could have fooled me. So in other words you won't be giving Cunningham any praise if Roscommon have any success in the next few years?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 09, 2018, 09:14:12 PM
Manning18 doubling down despite not being aware that Cunningham had managed teams to AI finals and Connacht and Leinster titles in football a couple days ago. To quote him - 'bizarre'.

Very good appointment. Much better than O'Rourke whose record thus far is nearly as laced with failure as his attempt to cobble together a background team was.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 09:24:45 PM
How on earth was I not aware? I know AC and his club better than you can imagine and there was more than a few scoffs round about the time he started taking football jobs with his knowledge of it. He proved them wrong in a way I suppose but they were hardly D1 inter county.

Are you actually going to take issue with any points I made or just ignore anything you cant just dismiss like a cranky fool?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 09:28:01 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.

As it was pointed out to you on the Connacht club thread he wouldn't have achieved what he has done in management if he was as bad as you suggest. O'Rourke in comparison had a poor management CV, name some of these positive traits that was going for him?

The only thing that happened in that thread was my question about why the Dublin CB opted against him when everything was so overwhelmingly in his favour was ignored. What exactly has he achieved? The game is littered with managers who have won provincial club titles and none of them are getting D1 jobs. Were Brigets a tactical masterclass back then or simply a group of talented footballers who won a provincial? I'll admit to not knowing much about Garrycastle bar that it was yet another team he eventually fell out with. Wasted one of the most talented teams (and a couple of careers) in recent memory in Galway, with one final player led push in 2015 that was more in spite of him than anything else and lasted for 2 games.

AOR is a former All Star in this particular sport for one and is known as an innovator. Not that he'd be the best choice either.

I'm from Galway, and don't exactly enjoy tarnishing an ex all Ireland winner for us given we've had so few. I even kind of wish him well in this. The decision is just moronic though

You could have fooled me. So in other words you won't be giving Cunningham any praise if Roscommon have any success in the next few years?

He grabs a Connacht title like McStay then more power to him. He'll have earned every penny
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 09, 2018, 09:31:40 PM
Doesn't he live in Kiltoom?

Interesting that he has dabbled in the football. He's a St Thomas' man. No football down there. I'd say they'd burst any stray footballs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 09, 2018, 09:38:07 PM
Good appointment for Roscommon when you consider who was nearly appointed or linked, basically all Div 3 level managers and i think former player David Casey was probably too much of a rookie for such a job yet. It helps that this manager lives in Roscommon and i believe the panel will be training in Kiltoom a walking distance for him.

How Roscommon do next year will likely depend on the strength of their panel as a small county like them can't afford to be missing 5 or 6 good players from their team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 09, 2018, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on October 24, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
Subject to approval from the Hatch.

In light of the tardiness of Dublin County Board to appoint hurling manager, the Roscommon County Board will appoint Anthony Cunningham as manager.

This can been seen as a small recompense to Brigids after Paddy Neilan giving Clann the County Final.

Frankie Dolan and Cake will join as selectors. Kevin can steer in the background without listening to supporters' crap.

In the event of a general election, cake will stand aside to join Eugene Murphy on Fianna Fáil ticket.

The Hatch will nominate a replacement selector if required.

/Jim.

Ye were given two weeks notice. Just pray now I was only half right.  Actually 2/3 right :-)

/Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 09, 2018, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 09, 2018, 09:31:40 PM
Doesn't he live in Kiltoom?

Interesting that he has dabbled in the football. He's a St Thomas' man. No football down there. I'd say they'd burst any stray footballs.

His son plays football for Brigids. Was on the team that won the Junior county title last year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on November 10, 2018, 08:48:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 09, 2018, 07:36:16 PM
Good luck Anthony and welcome on board.
We should be getting better team organisation and defending anyway.
Back room team vital whoever it will be.
A bit ironic that O'Rourke wasnth ratified till he"finalised his backroom " while AC is ratified as a lone wolf!!

Lookit
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on November 10, 2018, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.

As it was pointed out to you on the Connacht club thread he wouldn't have achieved what he has done in management if he was as bad as you suggest. O'Rourke in comparison had a poor management CV, name some of these positive traits that was going for him?

The only thing that happened in that thread was my question about why the Dublin CB opted against him when everything was so overwhelmingly in his favour was ignored. What exactly has he achieved? The game is littered with managers who have won provincial club titles and none of them are getting D1 jobs. Were Brigets a tactical masterclass back then or simply a group of talented footballers who won a provincial? I'll admit to not knowing much about Garrycastle bar that it was yet another team he eventually fell out with. Wasted one of the most talented teams (and a couple of careers) in recent memory in Galway, with one final player led push in 2015 that was more in spite of him than anything else and lasted for 2 games.

AOR is a former All Star in this particular sport for one and is known as an innovator. Not that he'd be the best choice either.

I'm from Galway, and don't exactly enjoy tarnishing an ex all Ireland winner for us given we've had so few. I even kind of wish him well in this. The decision is just moronic though

He never fell out with Garrycastle. He won 3 Westmeath championships in 3 years and a Leinster in his final year. He left to take the Galway job. Garrycastle hadn't won Westmeath in 5 years when he came in.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 10, 2018, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: shark on November 10, 2018, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2018, 08:26:02 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on November 09, 2018, 08:18:50 PM
The world's gone mad. It's not as if he's free of charge either
Inches away from appointing someone living in Armagh and working in Belfast was more mad and would have cost more.

At least he had some positive traits going for him and could be a promising coach. Literally struggling to think of any positives with this one. Huge man management concerns, no obvious tactical nous, questionable motivation after the job he wanted and was in line for was given to a former understudy, and all for a pricely fee.

As it was pointed out to you on the Connacht club thread he wouldn't have achieved what he has done in management if he was as bad as you suggest. O'Rourke in comparison had a poor management CV, name some of these positive traits that was going for him?

The only thing that happened in that thread was my question about why the Dublin CB opted against him when everything was so overwhelmingly in his favour was ignored. What exactly has he achieved? The game is littered with managers who have won provincial club titles and none of them are getting D1 jobs. Were Brigets a tactical masterclass back then or simply a group of talented footballers who won a provincial? I'll admit to not knowing much about Garrycastle bar that it was yet another team he eventually fell out with. Wasted one of the most talented teams (and a couple of careers) in recent memory in Galway, with one final player led push in 2015 that was more in spite of him than anything else and lasted for 2 games.

AOR is a former All Star in this particular sport for one and is known as an innovator. Not that he'd be the best choice either.

I'm from Galway, and don't exactly enjoy tarnishing an ex all Ireland winner for us given we've had so few. I even kind of wish him well in this. The decision is just moronic though

He never fell out with Garrycastle. He won 3 Westmeath championships in 3 years and a Leinster in his final year. He left to take the Galway job. Garrycastle hadn't won Westmeath in 5 years when he came in.

Was going to call him out on that but he was on a roll on trying not to tarnish Cunnigham's name   :D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 19, 2018, 10:47:08 PM
Anthony Cunningham names his backroom -Ian Daly Mark Dowd plus a Noel Flynn as S&C man.
Ian and Mark are good choices but don't know the other lad at all.
Seems he owns a gym in Lucian.
He'll no doubt be better than the fella taken on by the former manager anyway.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 21, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
Pádraic Joyce (Killererin), Stephen Joyce (Clonbur) Lloyd Kelly (Ballinasloe) the 3 remaining candidates in contention for the Galway U-20 football job.

Stephen Joyce looks like the obvious choice having led Galway Minors to 3 Connacht titles in a row & reached the 2016 All-Ireland final.



Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 22, 2018, 12:16:09 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 21, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
Pádraic Joyce (Killererin), Stephen Joyce (Clonbur) Lloyd Kelly (Ballinasloe) the 3 remaining candidates in contention for the Galway U-20 football job.

Stephen Joyce looks like the obvious choice having led Galway Minors to 3 Connacht titles in a row & reached the 2016 All-Ireland final.

Word is PJ got the gig.

Tough on Stephen Joyce but never easy going up against a legendary player. Even one with limited coaching experience.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 22, 2018, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on November 22, 2018, 12:16:09 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 21, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
Pádraic Joyce (Killererin), Stephen Joyce (Clonbur) Lloyd Kelly (Ballinasloe) the 3 remaining candidates in contention for the Galway U-20 football job.

Stephen Joyce looks like the obvious choice having led Galway Minors to 3 Connacht titles in a row & reached the 2016 All-Ireland final.

Word is PJ got the gig.

Tough on Stephen Joyce but never easy going up against a legendary player. Even one with limited coaching experience.

Odd. Know what you would get with Stephen Joyce while the jury is out on PJ as a manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Syferus on November 22, 2018, 12:56:54 AM
U20 is a pile of shíte in its current form anyways.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 22, 2018, 08:52:01 AM
What a wonderful contribution ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 22, 2018, 09:30:16 AM
Sounds like PJ has the job, I'm very surprised at that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on November 22, 2018, 09:36:30 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 22, 2018, 09:30:16 AM
Sounds like PJ has the job, I'm very surprised at that.
Yeah, he was ratified at the county board meeting last night.  Wish him the best of luck, he will have a decent panel of players to work with based on their minor form.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 22, 2018, 10:06:27 AM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on November 22, 2018, 09:36:30 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 22, 2018, 09:30:16 AM
Sounds like PJ has the job, I'm very surprised at that.
Yeah, he was ratified at the county board meeting last night.  Wish him the best of luck, he will have a decent panel of players to work with based on their minor form.

Think we'd all be delighted if he was successful; I watched this group at minor level lose to Cavan and they didn't seem as talented as some of the other recent minor teams especially in the forwards then again they were brilliant when they beat Mayo a few months earlier.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WT4E on February 25, 2019, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 03, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
For me the minimum was Div3 status and beat London but this team was capable of more, the manner of how we stayed up wasn't pretty, the manner of our defeat to Galway and Armagh have to be considered.

There was lots of negatives behind the scenes too, that transferred to the pitch, his whole approach was poor, out of his depth. I'm glad he is gone.

Our CB are so poor I don't know what they will come up with next. No self-respecting outside manager will come to us. O Hara/McGowan could be anything from a disaster to great imo.

Just wondering what you think of Cathal Corey now?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LooseCannon on May 20, 2019, 07:09:47 PM
Kevin Martin seemingly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 20, 2019, 08:07:07 PM
Quote from: LooseCannon on May 20, 2019, 07:09:47 PM
Kevin Martin seemingly.

https://www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/joachim-kelly-appointed-interim-offaly-manager/?fbclid=IwAR3uavadqmTXmU0x1p71r-a9JTl8zWrpwzpkWRK4e1FH1AMIkAMS2p7TVwY
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
Cian O'Neill has stepped down.

Kildare is a difficult gig for man different reasons and he did a decent job, spoke very well on behalf of the county last summer.

Wishing him the best. Can see him getting involved with the Cork footballers. I think they would be mad not to bring him in.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on July 16, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
He seemed from the outside all talk with not much substance. All good with the scientific talk, but not that inspiring as a manager. Thomas O Se wasn't impressed when he was coach kerry
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 16, 2019, 01:03:10 PM
His championship record with Kildare  P 20 W 9 D 1 L 10

Highlight and low light both happened last summer with the defeat to Carlow followed by the win v Mayo. When he took over Kildare they were in Div 3 and after a brief spell in Div 1 he has left them in Div 2.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2019, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 16, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
He seemed from the outside all talk with not much substance. All good with the scientific talk, but not that inspiring as a manager. Thomas O Se wasn't impressed when he was coach kerry

Kerry haven't won or looked like winning an All-Ireland since he left.

He's not a top dog though more of a backroom appointee.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Throw ball on July 16, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
Will they try and get Geezer back ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mup on July 16, 2019, 02:03:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
Cian O'Neill has stepped down.

Kildare is a difficult gig for man different reasons and he did a decent job, spoke very well on behalf of the county last summer.

Wishing him the best. Can see him getting involved with the Cork footballers. I think they would be mad not to bring him in.

I think it was more of a case of not being wanted. Either way he's gone.

Interesting to see who is next for the gig.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on July 16, 2019, 02:07:08 PM
Sorry to see him go although the time is probably right for a change. It seemed to go stale this year after some decent progress since 2016.

Frustrating that we never seemed to be able to find much consistency and get over the line in tight matches during 2017-18; apart from the Newbridge or Nowhere saga. Div 2 league final in 2017, Armagh R4 qualifier after a decent Leinster campaign, Tyrone, Monaghan and Donegal Div 1 league games and the Galway and Monaghan games in the Super 8 last year.

I would be very surprised if his replacement is an outside appointment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 16, 2019, 02:14:18 PM
I came on here in hope of seeing some good news, none yet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 16, 2019, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 16, 2019, 02:14:18 PM
I came on here in hope of seeing some good news, none yet.

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Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mup on July 16, 2019, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 16, 2019, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 16, 2019, 02:14:18 PM
I came on here in hope of seeing some good news, none yet.

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;D ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 17, 2019, 06:07:48 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 16, 2019, 01:03:10 PM
His championship record with Kildare  P 20 W 9 D 1 L 10

Highlight and low light both happened last summer with the defeat to Carlow followed by the win v Mayo. When he took over Kildare they were in Div 3 and after a brief spell in Div 1 he has left them in Div 2.

Is that a good or bad record? Is there similar figures available for, say McGeeney with Kildare or Kevin Walsh with Galway?

The Mayo win last year showed up how bad the other poor results were. Similar to Cork this year.
I guess he never really got momentum with Kildare and it sounds like there are a number of factors
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on July 17, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
Could Jack O'Connor be a serious contender?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 17, 2019, 09:46:36 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 17, 2019, 06:07:48 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 16, 2019, 01:03:10 PM
His championship record with Kildare  P 20 W 9 D 1 L 10

Highlight and low light both happened last summer with the defeat to Carlow followed by the win v Mayo. When he took over Kildare they were in Div 3 and after a brief spell in Div 1 he has left them in Div 2.

Is that a good or bad record? Is there similar figures available for, say McGeeney with Kildare or Kevin Walsh with Galway?

The Mayo win last year showed up how bad the other poor results were. Similar to Cork this year.
I guess he never really got momentum with Kildare and it sounds like there are a number of factors

The stat is a bit disingenuous. 3 of those defeats came in the Super 8s (Monaghan, Kerry, Galway) last year. The 2 defeats this year were to Dublin & Tyrone.  2017 we lost to Dublin and 2016 we lost to Mayo. So 7 of those 10 defeats were to 6 of the best 7 teams in the country and never once were we favs.

The Carlow defeat was a perfect storm, Kildare hadn't won a game in a year, Carlow had been promoted, Carlow had a game plan they believed and everything they touched turned to gold, not one wide so I don't get to downbeat on that one. Nor Westmeath in 2016, CON tried something new, can't fault him for that, it's what he was there for and it didn't work out.

The big disappointment was 2017 and Armagh, a game we were favourites for and just got bullied and out smarted. CON was poor that day, that game could have pushed us on, it set us back and CON's Kildare never really recovered from it. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 17, 2019, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 17, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
Could Jack O'Connor be a serious contender?

Hard to say, obviously his two lads are involved with Moorefield and that always gives rise to speculation. If he delivers an u20 AI this year for Kerry, his star will be bright again.

The populist media view is Malachy O'Rourke, the sentimental view and current favourite is Glenn Ryan.

Glenn would be my choice but I am very biased there so no surprise.

The reality is Dublin have placed a dark cloud over the Leinster Championship,  so for any outside coach looking in, taking on the Kildare job will not give you a realistic chance of provincial honours .

Take Galway & Kildare as examples, on their day not much between them over the last few years, both have decent underage structures and a good club scene. But which job is more attractive, the one where there is a culture of provincial honours and an expectation to deliver same or one where you rarely win a provincial and you are competing against a team that has won 14 of the last 15?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on July 17, 2019, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 17, 2019, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 17, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
Could Jack O'Connor be a serious contender?

Hard to say, obviously his two lads are involved with Moorefield and that always gives rise to speculation. If he delivers an u20 AI this year for Kerry, his star will be bright again.

The populist media view is Malachy O'Rourke, the sentimental view and current favourite is Glenn Ryan.

Glenn would be my choice but I am very biased there so no surprise.

There's a lot to be said for staying with a local, and Ryan was certainly an icon as a player.

If it was decided to look outside, O'Connor and O'Rourke would seem good options. If looking for an "outside the box" choice, I wonder would there be any merit in going for a Dub, e.g. Darcy, Clarke, Sherlock, Farrell....

Although I personally believe this will be Gavin's last year, so one of those would presumably take up the reigns.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 17, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 17, 2019, 10:39:27 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 17, 2019, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 17, 2019, 08:24:07 AM
Could Jack O'Connor be a serious contender?

Hard to say, obviously his two lads are involved with Moorefield and that always gives rise to speculation. If he delivers an u20 AI this year for Kerry, his star will be bright again.

The populist media view is Malachy O'Rourke, the sentimental view and current favourite is Glenn Ryan.

Glenn would be my choice but I am very biased there so no surprise.

There's a lot to be said for staying with a local, and Ryan was certainly an icon as a player.

If it was decided to look outside, O'Connor and O'Rourke would seem good options. If looking for an "outside the box" choice, I wonder would there be any merit in going for a Dub, e.g. Darcy, Clarke, Sherlock, Farrell....

Although I personally believe this will be Gavin's last year, so one of those would presumably take up the reigns.

Those two would be interesting, Farrell has Manager and Sherlock as his coach. Probably 2 Dubs Kildare supporters could get behind.  Definitely outside the box.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oakleaflad on July 17, 2019, 12:38:04 PM
Damian McErlain has stood down as Derry Senior Football Manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 17, 2019, 01:24:26 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 17, 2019, 06:07:48 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 16, 2019, 01:03:10 PM
His championship record with Kildare  P 20 W 9 D 1 L 10

Highlight and low light both happened last summer with the defeat to Carlow followed by the win v Mayo. When he took over Kildare they were in Div 3 and after a brief spell in Div 1 he has left them in Div 2.

Is that a good or bad record? Is there similar figures available for, say McGeeney with Kildare or Kevin Walsh with Galway?

The Mayo win last year showed up how bad the other poor results were. Similar to Cork this year.
I guess he never really got momentum with Kildare and it sounds like there are a number of factors

Inconsistent record. I'll take 2018 for example. Kildare got to prepare for that championship by playing in Div 1 and while they lost every game they were competitive in a number of those games so losing to Div 4 Carlow by 7 points made little sense.  In the last eight Kildare had the opportunity to win at least 1 game.  Monaghan in Croke Park or Galway in Newbridge which they would have done so if they brought some consistency from that win v Mayo.


Kieran McGeeney's championship record with Kildare was P 36 W 23 D 1 L 12

Would be best remembered for a very good qualifier record and inches away from leading Kildare to the AI final in 2010.  His provincial championship record was poor and 2008 to 2010 Leinster was far more winnable than it currently is.


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 18, 2019, 04:26:42 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on July 17, 2019, 12:38:04 PM
Damian McErlain has stood down as Derry Senior Football Manager.

Who is the early fav? Mal O'Rourke?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Real Talk on July 20, 2019, 02:39:42 PM
Malachy O'Rourke would not take the Derry job for any money.  Why,  because he had in Monaghan the most committed bunch of players in Ireland who always put the team first ... the players and their Co Board also put the County Team first and they had INVESTIC as their sponsor.   Derry couldn't match that. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on July 20, 2019, 03:12:53 PM
It was said he intends to take a from management for a year. 7 years with Monaghan. He would be a good manager for Derry if did get him. He managed before in Derry as a club manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: highorlow on July 22, 2019, 03:01:28 PM
So if the rumours are true sounds like Jack O'Connor for Kildare?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 24, 2019, 12:39:57 PM
Former Ros manager Johneen Evans steps down from Wicklow.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/  (https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Erne Man on July 29, 2019, 02:16:49 PM
Not surprising Ferm Gael - the third season for the most recent Fermangh managers has been a struggle.
I suspect we'll have some absent players who will return to the fold next year, and a batch of decent 19yrs old to bring in from the Hogan Cup winning team. Might as well blood some ot them next year - Horan, Love, Largo-Ellis at least. McBrien/Glynn might be a year too young.

With all the managerial changes in Ulster there will be a number of candidates moving from county to county - would love to see a Tony McEntee, but we're more likely to get a Banty!!
Unlikely that O'Rourke will throw his hat into the ring - but you never know.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 29, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/  (https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/)

Surprised at this myself....Fermanagh ones happy enough though?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on July 29, 2019, 02:35:23 PM
Anthony Rainbow has handed in his notice at Ballyboden...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 29, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/  (https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/)

Surprised at this myself....Fermanagh ones happy enough though?

Rory did a very good job.
Took over Fermanagh in division 3 and we were promoted in his first year.  He then got us to an Ulster final where we failed to turn up against Donegal.
In his second year he kept us in division 2 ( and we were very unlucky not to get promoted , draws against Tipp and Cork ultimately cost us ) and then we put in two good performances in the championship especially against Donegal. With a bit more or attacking threat we would have beat Monaghan.

I am surprised he walked away.  He has developed alot of young players in the 2 years and there seems to be a good crop of lads from the St Michaels team of this year coming through.
Maybe he thought he had reached the ceiling, maybe he needed a break or maybe he has gotten a better offer....

Next appointment will be critical as division 2 will be ultra competitive again .   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on July 29, 2019, 05:04:49 PM
Fermanaghs best forward Tomas Corrigan fell out with Gallagher and wasn't involved this year. Neither was his brother Ruari. Maybe for the best Gallagher is gone, to have you're best players back available.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Emmett on July 29, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 29, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/  (https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/)

Surprised at this myself....Fermanagh ones happy enough though?

Rory did a very good job.
Took over Fermanagh in division 3 and we were promoted in his first year.  He then got us to an Ulster final where we failed to turn up against Donegal.
In his second year he kept us in division 2 ( and we were very unlucky not to get promoted , draws against Tipp and Cork ultimately cost us ) and then we put in two good performances in the championship especially against Donegal. With a bit more or attacking threat we would have beat Monaghan.

I am surprised he walked away.  He has developed alot of young players in the 2 years and there seems to be a good crop of lads from the St Michaels team of this year coming through.
Maybe he thought he had reached the ceiling, maybe he needed a break or maybe he has gotten a better offer....

Next appointment will be critical as division 2 will be ultra competitive again .   


Rory indeed did a fine job in getting us results and keeping us competitive. It's just a pity he could not find a way of making us more of a scoring threat, The players were definitely there.

On his "resignation" there is much more to it than meets the eye. The Sunday World would have a field day!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 29, 2019, 07:57:20 PM
Quote from: Hound on July 29, 2019, 02:35:23 PM
Anthony Rainbow has handed in his notice at Ballyboden...

Is that definite Hound?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 30, 2019, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

This cannot and won't happen..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: t_mac on July 30, 2019, 11:50:24 AM
Quote from: Emmett on July 29, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 29, 2019, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 29, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/  (https://www.impartialreporter.com/news/17801690.breaking-gallagher-steps-fermanagh-manager/)

Surprised at this myself....Fermanagh ones happy enough though?

Rory did a very good job.
Took over Fermanagh in division 3 and we were promoted in his first year.  He then got us to an Ulster final where we failed to turn up against Donegal.
In his second year he kept us in division 2 ( and we were very unlucky not to get promoted , draws against Tipp and Cork ultimately cost us ) and then we put in two good performances in the championship especially against Donegal. With a bit more or attacking threat we would have beat Monaghan.

I am surprised he walked away.  He has developed alot of young players in the 2 years and there seems to be a good crop of lads from the St Michaels team of this year coming through.
Maybe he thought he had reached the ceiling, maybe he needed a break or maybe he has gotten a better offer....

Next appointment will be critical as division 2 will be ultra competitive again .   


Rory indeed did a fine job in getting us results and keeping us competitive. It's just a pity he could not find a way of making us more of a scoring threat, The players were definitely there.

On his "resignation" there is much more to it than meets the eye. The Sunday World would have a field day!

That is it in a nut shell, I admired the way Fermanagh could keep the big guns at bay but you were never going to win matches scoring less than 10 scores a game.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 30, 2019, 02:56:13 PM
A lot of movement and surely a lot more to come with Walsh and maybe Geezer?

Being from Kildare I'd hope we get our arses in gear soon or have already been chatting people. But, there seems to be no whispers yet.

Monaghan are in a bind too, considering who might be out there. It really is a domino thing over what might happen?

O'Rourke would be a good shout for Kildare or Derry?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on July 30, 2019, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 30, 2019, 02:56:13 PM
A lot of movement and surely a lot more to come with Walsh and maybe Geezer?

Being from Kildare I'd hope we get our arses in gear soon or have already been chatting people. But, there seems to be no whispers yet.

Monaghan are in a bind too, considering who might be out there. It really is a domino thing over what might happen?

O'Rourke would be a good shout for Kildare or Derry?

All the talk is he's staying on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2019, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 30, 2019, 02:56:13 PM
A lot of movement and surely a lot more to come with Walsh and maybe Geezer?

Being from Kildare I'd hope we get our arses in gear soon or have already been chatting people. But, there seems to be no whispers yet.

Monaghan are in a bind too, considering who might be out there. It really is a domino thing over what might happen?

O'Rourke would be a good shout for Kildare or Derry?

They've been chatting to possible candidates.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 30, 2019, 05:35:39 PM
Don't leave a lad hanging Dinny...
Who are you hearing and any positive responses?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 30, 2019, 05:37:11 PM
TommyTom Carr.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 30, 2019, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 30, 2019, 02:56:13 PM
A lot of movement and surely a lot more to come with Walsh and maybe Geezer?

Don't know whether there'll be any movement at all with the Galway football manager to be honest.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2019, 06:40:26 PM
John Sugrue has stepped down from Laois. Will be in demand I suspect.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: kerryforsam19 on July 30, 2019, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2019, 06:40:26 PM
John Sugrue has stepped down from Laois. Will be in demand I suspect.

He was selector and coach under Jack O'connor, could be part of the new backroom team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 31, 2019, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on July 30, 2019, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

This cannot and won't happen..

Don't worry. According to the Irish News Backpage today it's not Banty on his own. It's Banty and Rory Gallagher.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on July 31, 2019, 12:35:26 PM
rory  g really is the most loyal of fellas !!, straight from donegal to fermanagh, now jumps into another bed. Had a history of this when playing too!.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on July 31, 2019, 04:05:53 PM
Hearing from a good source the Stephen Poacher interested in the Fermanagh job.
Watch this space
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: kerryforsam19 on July 31, 2019, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: naka on July 31, 2019, 04:05:53 PM
Hearing from a good source the Stephen Poacher interested in the Fermanagh job.
Watch this space

From the frying pan into the fire
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 31, 2019, 06:21:21 PM
Cork Hurley stuff manager John Meyler steps away.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 02, 2019, 12:21:42 PM
Wait until he gets his hands on those purple and gold jerseys.

(https://tfk.thefreekick.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/e/de1a1ebc4ee8067d644a86870ca2a160851eb02e.jpeg)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 02, 2019, 12:22:22 PM
 :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BennyCake on August 02, 2019, 02:12:18 PM
Was part of the deal that he got to design the new Wexford jersey?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on August 02, 2019, 02:30:05 PM
Has Galvin managed at any level before?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: kerryforsam19 on August 02, 2019, 06:21:30 PM
The underdogs.  Hasn't done much at adult level.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 02, 2019, 06:38:04 PM
Another Hurley man gone -Fanning of Waterford after just 1 term.
Galvin at Wexford has all the makings of a catastrophe.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 03, 2019, 02:53:29 AM
Quote from: FermGael on July 31, 2019, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on July 30, 2019, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

This cannot and won't happen..

Don't worry. According to the Irish News Backpage today it's not Banty on his own. It's Banty and Rory Gallagher.
This cannot and won't happen.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2019, 08:26:14 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2019, 02:30:05 PM
Has Galvin managed at any level before?
Aren't you meant to have level 2 coaching course done to be involved with a county team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on August 03, 2019, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2019, 08:26:14 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 02, 2019, 02:30:05 PM
Has Galvin managed at any level before?
Aren't you meant to have level 2 coaching course done to be involved with a county team?

He was a teacher for a few years in a couple of schools that take football seriously. Maybe he undertook courses then, while training their teams. I'm only guessing though 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2019, 01:46:48 PM
Jack O'Connor for Kildare is growing legs but he was heavily tipped in 2013 as well.  Informal talks have been had with a number of Kildare club managers.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 03, 2019, 02:01:58 PM
Next Kildare manager odds with Paddy Power

Jack O'Connor 10/11
Glen Ryan 2/1
Davy Burke 5/1
John Sugrue 5/1
Malachy O'Rourke 8/1
John Divilly 10/1
Tom Cribbin 12/1
Niall Carew 12/1
Ross Glavin 14/1
Colin Ward 16/1


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2019, 08:58:39 PM
Armagh County Committee has unanimously ratified Kieran McGeeney as County Senior Football Manager for a further two years.

https://twitter.com/Armagh_GAA/status/1158459413746855936 (https://twitter.com/Armagh_GAA/status/1158459413746855936)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 05, 2019, 08:59:56 PM
Hell soon qualify for a pension ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on August 07, 2019, 01:03:08 PM
Sligo going all out for 2020. A great coup getting Taylor on for another year afetr his 100% record this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 07, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 07, 2019, 01:03:08 PM
Sligo going all out for 2020. A great coup getting Taylor on for another year afetr his 100% record this year.
Massive statement of Intent by our County Board. ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: inexile on August 13, 2019, 08:24:45 PM
County Board to  nominate Jack O'Connor as Kildare Manager at the Sept Convention

http://kildaregaa.ie/statement-kildare-senior-football-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnpower on August 13, 2019, 11:45:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Surprised what is the issue preventing Glenn Ryan's appointment.? Thought the chairman was from the same club?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on August 13, 2019, 11:51:58 PM
Met a former player last week, who said as long as this chairman was in place Glenn Ryan would not get the job.
Some bullshit if true.
Also cannot stand Jack O Connor.
He ego-ometer must need a refill.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2019, 12:05:32 AM
Quote from: johnpower on August 13, 2019, 11:45:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Surprised what is the issue preventing Glenn Ryan's appointment.? Thought the chairman was from the same club?

His wife is. Club politics. Not really the forum.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Will Ross Glavin and Anthony Rainbow be selectors? Rainbow supposed to be stepping down from Boden when finish up in championship.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on August 14, 2019, 08:44:13 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Will Ross Glavin and Anthony Rainbow be selectors? Rainbow supposed to be stepping down from Boden when finish up in championship.

Would make sense for Glavin to get involved, from his perspective. He is so young that he doesn't need to jump in to any managerial job for the sake of it, and would learn lots with none of the pressure of being manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2019, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: shark on August 14, 2019, 08:44:13 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Will Ross Glavin and Anthony Rainbow be selectors? Rainbow supposed to be stepping down from Boden when finish up in championship.

Would make sense for Glavin to get involved, from his perspective. He is so young that he doesn't need to jump in to any managerial job for the sake of it, and would learn lots with none of the pressure of being manager.

Ross is in the army and there is talk that he might be going overseas, it's pretty much a requirement for promotions.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 14, 2019, 11:43:54 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 07, 2019, 08:51:02 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on August 07, 2019, 01:03:08 PM
Sligo going all out for 2020. A great coup getting Taylor on for another year afetr his 100% record this year.
Massive statement of Intent by our County Board. ;D

I feel depressed. Taylor was quoted in the media recently that he was "just getting started". I would be very concerned about where he could take us
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 14, 2019, 11:47:15 AM
I'm hearing Tony McEntee is a shoe-in in Monaghan. I'd guess Monaghan people would be happy with that?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2019, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: shark on August 14, 2019, 08:44:13 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Will Ross Glavin and Anthony Rainbow be selectors? Rainbow supposed to be stepping down from Boden when finish up in championship.

Would make sense for Glavin to get involved, from his perspective. He is so young that he doesn't need to jump in to any managerial job for the sake of it, and would learn lots with none of the pressure of being manager.

Ross is in the army and there is talk that he might be going overseas, it's pretty much a requirement for promotions.

What the chances of John Sugrue getting involved? He was selector/physical trainer with Kerry around 06
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2019, 02:54:42 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:46:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2019, 09:30:05 AM
Quote from: shark on August 14, 2019, 08:44:13 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 14, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2019, 10:07:48 PM
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Will Ross Glavin and Anthony Rainbow be selectors? Rainbow supposed to be stepping down from Boden when finish up in championship.

Would make sense for Glavin to get involved, from his perspective. He is so young that he doesn't need to jump in to any managerial job for the sake of it, and would learn lots with none of the pressure of being manager.

Ross is in the army and there is talk that he might be going overseas, it's pretty much a requirement for promotions.

What the chances of John Sugrue getting involved? He was selector/physical trainer with Kerry around 06

It's rumoured.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2019, 12:04:15 AM
Micheal Donoghue has stepped down as Galway senior Hurling manager tonight after 4 years in charge.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Poor Fermanagh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2019, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Poor Fermanagh.
Why poor Fermanagh? I'm sure most of their supporters will be happy if they can remain in division 2 and reach another Ulster final against the odds in the foreseeable future.

This is a county that had to watch their team play division 4 football and get knocked out of the championship by London not so long ago.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 03:07:22 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2019, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Poor Fermanagh.
Why poor Fermanagh? I'm sure most of their supporters will be happy if they can remain in division 2 and reach another Ulster final against the odds in the foreseeable future.

This is a county that had to watch their team play division 4 football and get knocked out of the championship by London not so long ago.

How long will that status last with the trio being proposed with little or no experience of management of county teams even at underage level?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 22, 2019, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 03:07:22 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2019, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Poor Fermanagh.
Why poor Fermanagh? I'm sure most of their supporters will be happy if they can remain in division 2 and reach another Ulster final against the odds in the foreseeable future.

This is a county that had to watch their team play division 4 football and get knocked out of the championship by London not so long ago.

How long will that status last with the trio being proposed with little or no experience of management of county teams even at underage level?
And hasn't Ricey a low sanity threshold?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 22, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Will he have more of an attacking mindset FermGael. I know you have to cut the cloth to suit your needs and all that, but every Fermanagh person into GAA I know wasn't impressed with the way you set up this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: t_mac on August 22, 2019, 09:33:41 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 22, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Will he have more of an attacking mindset FermGael. I know you have to cut the cloth to suit your needs and all that, but every Fermanagh person into GAA I know wasn't impressed with the way you set up this year.

Played two, lost two, Fermanagh are better than that, can't win without out scoring your opponent.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 22, 2019, 09:06:35 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 22, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Will he have more of an attacking mindset FermGael. I know you have to cut the cloth to suit your needs and all that, but every Fermanagh person into GAA I know wasn't impressed with the way you set up this year.

I would assume he would have to but he won't be playing all out attack either. Fermanagh have played a certain style for the last number of years but as far as I know we are still the last team to score 2 goals past the Dubs in championship.
We played two division 1 teams this year in championship this year and to be honest we were in both games with 15 minutes to go.  I would have expected white smoke by now in all honesty because they were suppose to have been interviewed last week .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 22, 2019, 11:41:41 PM
There's wisps of white smoke coming out of Cloghan re Malachy's successor.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Godsown on August 23, 2019, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 22, 2019, 12:56:37 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 03:07:22 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2019, 03:02:36 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 21, 2019, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 15, 2019, 10:40:50 PM
Gaelic life reporting that Ricey is in pole posiiton for us with a backroom team of Paul McIvor and Joe McMahon

Poor Fermanagh.
Why poor Fermanagh? I'm sure most of their supporters will be happy if they can remain in division 2 and reach another Ulster final against the odds in the foreseeable future.

This is a county that had to watch their team play division 4 football and get knocked out of the championship by London not so long ago.

How long will that status last with the trio being proposed with little or no experience of management of county teams even at underage level?
And hasn't Ricey a low sanity threshold?

Sanity or sanitary ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Godsown on August 23, 2019, 01:56:03 AM
I hear Poacher has withdrawn his name from the Waterford and Galway Senior Hurling jobs as well as the Monaghan Derry and Fermanagh football positions. Harte considering as No 2
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 23, 2019, 08:49:00 AM
Quote from: Godsown on August 23, 2019, 01:56:03 AM
I hear Poacher has withdrawn his name from the Waterford and Galway Senior Hurling jobs as well as the Monaghan Derry and Fermanagh football positions. Harte considering as No 2

Do you not have to be nominated before you withdraw your name?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 23, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Not when youre Poacher.
Latches himself to anything thats going.
All part of the PR propaganda machine he drives.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 23, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 23, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Not when youre Poacher.
Latches himself to anything thats going.
All part of the PR propaganda machine he drives.

What is the core issue with Poacher here? I don't know anything about the man but plenty seem to be quick to stick the boot in.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2019, 11:35:03 AM
Rumours Carlow manager O'Brien facing opposition to his re appointment so Poacher may be available soon enough.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on August 24, 2019, 09:03:11 AM
Banty has returned according to insiders the coup was the inclusion of PD on his ticket.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dire Ear on August 24, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 23, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 23, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Not when youre Poacher.
Latches himself to anything thats going.
All part of the PR propaganda machine he drives.

What is the core issue with Poacher here? I don't know anything about the man but plenty seem to be quick to stick the boot in.
From what I've seen of him at U21 level a few years ago,  he's a very unlikeable person and I wouldn't like him near any team I supported
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 24, 2019, 11:13:11 AM
Noooooo... you're confusing that with wearing his heart on his sleeve.. surely
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dire Ear on August 24, 2019, 11:31:18 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 24, 2019, 11:13:11 AM
Noooooo... you're confusing that with wearing his heart on his sleeve.. surely
No
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Will it ever end on August 24, 2019, 11:58:06 AM
Quote from: skeog on August 24, 2019, 09:03:11 AM
Banty has returned according to insiders the coup was the inclusion of PD on his ticket.

Pardon my ignorance - PD being? Surely not Peter Donnelly?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 25, 2019, 10:26:07 AM
Poacher?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: southtyronegael on August 25, 2019, 01:55:31 PM
Rumours that Peter Donnelly will be linking up with banty if he gets the Monaghan job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: five points on August 26, 2019, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 25, 2019, 01:55:31 PM
Rumours that Peter Donnelly will be linking up with banty if he gets the Monaghan job.

Peter's only last month gone to Ulster Rugby. http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2019/07/19/news/ulster-rugby-excited-by-recruitment-of-tyrone-coach-peter-donnelly-1666340/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 26, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
A Tyrone rumour would fall under the lowest credibility catagory.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: henrym14 on August 26, 2019, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 25, 2019, 01:55:31 PM
Rumours that Peter Donnelly will be linking up with banty if he gets the Monaghan job.

Thought he got rugby job with Ulster?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 26, 2019, 09:46:58 PM
Quote from: henrym14 on August 26, 2019, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 25, 2019, 01:55:31 PM
Rumours that Peter Donnelly will be linking up with banty if he gets the Monaghan job.

Thought he got rugby job with Ulster?

He certainly is:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/northern-ireland/49269356 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/northern-ireland/49269356)

Currently employed as Academy Athletic Development Coach at Ulster Rugby.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 26, 2019, 09:47:44 PM
Ricey, Joe McMahon and Paul McIver confirmed this evening by the county board .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 26, 2019, 09:49:58 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 26, 2019, 09:47:44 PM
Ricey, Joe McMahon and Paul McIver confirmed this evening by the county board .

Poor Fermanagh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: TheGreatest on August 27, 2019, 09:01:58 AM
Derek McGrath to manage Laois minor hurlers, he is doing it for the love of the game...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 27, 2019, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on August 24, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 23, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 23, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Not when youre Poacher.
Latches himself to anything thats going.
All part of the PR propaganda machine he drives.

What is the core issue with Poacher here? I don't know anything about the man but plenty seem to be quick to stick the boot in.
From what I've seen of him at U21 level a few years ago,  he's a very unlikeable person and I wouldn't like him near any team I supported

I always got the exact opposite impression from ones I know that know him, he's meant to be a great fella altogether.

Strange, watched one of his coaching sessions on youtube once - he seemed a decent fella going on that but sure when the cameras are on you....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 27, 2019, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 27, 2019, 12:15:22 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on August 24, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 23, 2019, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 23, 2019, 08:53:57 AM
Not when youre Poacher.
Latches himself to anything thats going.
All part of the PR propaganda machine he drives.

What is the core issue with Poacher here? I don't know anything about the man but plenty seem to be quick to stick the boot in.
From what I've seen of him at U21 level a few years ago,  he's a very unlikeable person and I wouldn't like him near any team I supported

I always got the exact opposite impression from ones I know that know him, he's meant to be a great fella altogether.

Strange, watched one of his coaching sessions on youtube once - he seemed a decent fella going on that but sure when the cameras are on you....

I know two different clubs that he took for training and they had nothing but praise for him. Also lads from club went to a session he done and thought he great.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 27, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews

Have Derry not suffered enough?

If it happens, Brolly will go mental.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 27, 2019, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 27, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews

Have Derry not suffered enough?

If it happens, Brolly will go mental.

He's meant to be on the appointment panel

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Bearded One on August 27, 2019, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 27, 2019, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 27, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews

Have Derry not suffered enough?

If it happens, Brolly will go mental.

Find that hard to believe, he is Brian McIver's biggest critic and I assume in his role he is part of the selection committee, are am I well off the mark?
He's meant to be on the appointment panel
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 27, 2019, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 27, 2019, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 27, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews

Have Derry not suffered enough?

If it happens, Brolly will go mental.

He's meant to be on the appointment panel

Joe Brolly on the Derry senior county appointment panel? if so i think that just highlights everything wrong with Derry at the moment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 28, 2019, 12:31:23 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 27, 2019, 05:07:47 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 27, 2019, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 27, 2019, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews

Have Derry not suffered enough?

If it happens, Brolly will go mental.

He's meant to be on the appointment panel

Joe Brolly on the Derry senior county appointment panel? if so i think that just highlights everything wrong with Derry at the moment.

Absolutely no evidence for it, just was told by someone who wouldn't be far away from that set up.

I'm dubious about it myself.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oakleaflad on August 29, 2019, 10:56:58 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 27, 2019, 08:57:25 AM
Rory making the trip to Derry according to today's Irishnews
All other candidates have withdrawn leaving only Gallagher.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 29, 2019, 11:00:38 AM
Derry deserve everything they get if they appoint the black death of football Rory Gallagher
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 29, 2019, 11:52:38 AM
Is Peter Canavan considering another go at senior county management?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 29, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 29, 2019, 11:52:38 AM
Is Peter Canavan considering another go at senior county management?

Wouldn't have thought so until the Tyrone job comes up. Has a great wee number at Sky and the odd coaching session at clubs around the country. Hard to beat.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on August 29, 2019, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: ck on August 29, 2019, 11:00:38 AM
Derry deserve everything they get if they appoint the black death of football Rory Gallagher

Would be a shocking appointment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 29, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 29, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 29, 2019, 11:52:38 AM
Is Peter Canavan considering another go at senior county management?

Wouldn't have thought so until the Tyrone job comes up. Has a great wee number at Sky and the odd coaching session at clubs around the country. Hard to beat.

I'd have thought he'd need to beef up his managerial credentials a bit more if he wanted the top job in Tyrone, given there's likely to be a fair number of lads interested in taking over.

At the moment I'd say he's far far likelier to be one of the management team than the top man when it comes to the Tyrone seniors.

There's also the issue of his son being on the panel, which is a potential sticky wicket.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 29, 2019, 06:54:28 PM
There were/are positions available outside Tyrone for Peter to consider.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 30, 2019, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2019, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 29, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 29, 2019, 11:52:38 AM
Is Peter Canavan considering another go at senior county management?

Wouldn't have thought so until the Tyrone job comes up. Has a great wee number at Sky and the odd coaching session at clubs around the country. Hard to beat.

I'd have thought he'd need to beef up his managerial credentials a bit more if he wanted the top job in Tyrone, given there's likely to be a fair number of lads interested in taking over.

At the moment I'd say he's far far likelier to be one of the management team than the top man when it comes to the Tyrone seniors.

There's also the issue of his son being on the panel, which is a potential sticky wicket.

Oh I just meant the clamour for him - I'd say he'll be high in the betting and talk but I don't see him actually getting it as is.

Talk that he might actually be coming in this year to help with the senior team - That will only raise speculation.

Harte is there for however many years longer he wishes, think deep down we all accept that now maybe he wants to leave it to someone like Peter. Who knows.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 30, 2019, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

Does that mean Rochford leaving Donegal?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 30, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

What's the source for this?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2019, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

Heard that rumour yesterday.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 30, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2019, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

Does that mean Rochford leaving Donegal?

That's the other half of the rumour. Rochford & Morris to take over.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 30, 2019, 02:51:10 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on August 30, 2019, 11:15:10 AM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

What's the source for this?

i would like to know the source of this too !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 30, 2019, 03:09:56 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 30, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2019, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

Does that mean Rochford leaving Donegal?

That's the other half of the rumour. Rochford & Morris to take over.

Rochford & Morris rumour is going around since well before the Mayo match in early July.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 30, 2019, 03:18:09 PM
What ever the story is, I would think that Sept 1st would be a fair deadline for KW to have a new backroom team in place, if he doesn't its time for someone else to have a go !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2019, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2019, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: grassHarrow on August 30, 2019, 10:28:25 AM
KW gone ....

Heard that rumour yesterday.

Any facts or confirmation to these hear say rumours?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 30, 2019, 10:04:56 PM
Irish news reporting Banty has it
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: square_ball on August 30, 2019, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 30, 2019, 10:04:56 PM
Irish news reporting Banty has it

Just seen that. It'll be interesting to see the backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 30, 2019, 10:34:28 PM
Quote from: square_ball on August 30, 2019, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 30, 2019, 10:04:56 PM
Irish news reporting Banty has it

Just seen that. It'll be interesting to see the backroom team.

Donnelly and Lavery?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 30, 2019, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 03, 2019, 02:53:29 AM
Quote from: FermGael on July 31, 2019, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on July 30, 2019, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

This cannot and won't happen..

Don't worry. According to the Irish News Backpage today it's not Banty on his own. It's Banty and Rory Gallagher.
This cannot and won't happen.


Banty has happened lads.  GrandMasterFlash  and Main Street can you describe that reappointment in 3 words?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 30, 2019, 11:35:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 30, 2019, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 03, 2019, 02:53:29 AM
Quote from: FermGael on July 31, 2019, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on July 30, 2019, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

This cannot and won't happen..

Don't worry. According to the Irish News Backpage today it's not Banty on his own. It's Banty and Rory Gallagher.
This cannot and won't happen.


Banty has happened lads.  GrandMasterFlash  and Main Street can you describe that reappointment in 3 words?
Shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 31, 2019, 09:13:42 AM
WTF are Monaghan county board at?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Smurfy123 on August 31, 2019, 10:15:38 AM
Back to the Banty. Back to the roaring a shouting from the sideline. Don't know what all the fuss about peter Donnelly is? Brilliant Tyrone players look more like robots every year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2019, 10:49:36 AM
After 6 years punching above their weight  that's Monaghan back to the light weights again :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 31, 2019, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 31, 2019, 09:13:42 AM
WTF are Monaghan county board at?
Some credit is due, at least we have managed to piss off Tyronies with Peter Donnelly's decision to be a part of the "team".
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 01, 2019, 10:43:20 PM
Tweeted by Fogarty.

More rumblings from the west about another manager stepping down. #GAA
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
KW I presume?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 02, 2019, 11:03:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 02, 2019, 09:38:32 AM
KW I presume?
My understanding is that it's still in the balance
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 02, 2019, 11:30:06 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 01, 2019, 10:43:20 PM
Tweeted by Fogarty.
More rumblings from the west about another manager stepping down. #GAA

Fogarty trying to get out first about a potential story without anything tangible to back it up, unless he clarifies it with more detail (Is he on about KW? John Kiely? What are his sources?) it's no better than the rumours heard in the street and seen here and elsewhere which is still just speculation. Certainly from his musings on Galway hurling he's not a journo with much time for Galway GAA as it is. 

If KW coming back is still in the balance as per thebackbar1, you have to question what are the reasons:
If there's this much doubt at all about going back and he eventually stays on then what optimism could you have for 2019 at the minute.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 02, 2019, 02:18:37 PM
Was there a falling out with Mickey Harte and Peter Donnelly?

Seems like a bizarre choice to leave Tyrone and go to Monaghan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: southtyronegael on September 02, 2019, 09:57:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 02, 2019, 02:18:37 PM
Was there a falling out with Mickey Harte and Peter Donnelly?

Seems like a bizarre choice to leave Tyrone and go to Monaghan.
I believe Peter donnelly has converted to Islam which didn't go down well with harte. Banty doesn't give a shite as long as there is money to be made.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 02, 2019, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed
If he leaves it will be because he wasn't able to put together a new management team not pushed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 02, 2019, 11:59:12 PM
John Keily and Andy McEntee re appointed in Limerick and Meath.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 03, 2019, 01:29:08 AM
From Monaghangaa.ie

Management Appointment Ratified


At a meeting of the Monaghan GAA County Committee tonight, it was unanimously agreed to ratify the appointment of Séamus McEneaney as County Senior Football manager, along with the backroom team of Peter Donnelly, Conor Laverty, David McCague and Ray Boyne.
In a subsequent statement, Séamus stated: "It is an honour and a privilege to get the opportunity to manage this group of Monaghan players. The management team and I are relishing the challenge of building on the previous great work of Malachy O'Rourke and ensure that Monaghan continues to compete at the highest level."
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: toby47 on September 03, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 03, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both

That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 03, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both

That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!

It's probably a consultancy role, Tyrone was more hands on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 03, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 03, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both

That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!

Tyrone being  more fíor " gaels" couldn't be having a rugbyite around the place?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on September 03, 2019, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.

How did Donegal "go back" this year?

They lost one game, away to a top-level opponent they have always had trouble matching up to in recent years, especially in the physical stakes. Handled Tyrone fairly handily too.

Donegal camp all around have been very complimentary about Rochford and have advocated for him to stay on. Haven't heard any unofficial murmurings to the contrary either.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 03, 2019, 11:36:20 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.
Rumor would have it that Dave Morris is a significant part of the ticket.  I don't believe that there is a better option made up of 100% locals, but I'm open to correction on that !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.

That's up to Galway, but if you win an All Ireland Club in a county, your going to have a good reputation in that county to live off for awhile. Lest we forget he suffered some serious bad luck on the biggest one of them all. He arguably was in charge of the best team to lose the AI.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 03, 2019, 11:49:49 AM
it might not be an issue now :(

http://www.donegalsporthub.com/rochford-to-extend-donegal-stay-as-delegates-give-bonner-their-blessing/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
Confirmation that Galway Senior footballers will be looking for a new manager, official statement from Kevin Walsh read out on Galway Bay FM there.
Thanks to Kevin Walsh and all members of the back room team for the last 5 years, for all the criticism you'd have to say he left it in a better spot than when he took it over IMO.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 03, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on September 03, 2019, 11:49:49 AM
it might not be an issue now :(

http://www.donegalsporthub.com/rochford-to-extend-donegal-stay-as-delegates-give-bonner-their-blessing/

I don't think it would be a surprise if he had an agreement with Bonner he could leave if a job came up he wanted. I'm sure one of the Donegal lads will put me right but didn't Lacey change his mind a few years ago after been ratified?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.

That's up to Galway, but if you win an All Ireland Club in a county, your going to have a good reputation in that county to live off for awhile. Lest we forget he suffered some serious bad luck on the biggest one of them all. He arguably was in charge of the best team to lose the AI.

He basically lost Mayo an All Ireland by changing his goal keeper for the final which was one of the stupidiest pieces of management the game has ever seen.  Also his record in connaght to not win one in three attempts is a very poor record and dont give me this shite of they were'nt targetting them. No Mayo team goes out to lose to Galway.
Anyway with Walsh gone i think it would be a step back for Galway to appoint Stephen
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: galwayman on September 03, 2019, 12:30:02 PM
I feel a bit sad for Kevin Walsh today to be honest.
Criticism comes with the territory in county management but I felt there was a huge lack of respect shown to the man this year from a lot of quarters within the county. Whilst I would be in agreement that a change was needed for 2020 - most teams need a fresh voice after a period of time and Kevin did 5 seasons - but still it leaves a bad taste in the mouth imo.
As a supporter I can only thank the man for the huge effort put in over the past 5 years and there is no doubt we are better than we were when he took over.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 03, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
Confirmation that Galway Senior footballers will be looking for a new manager, official statement from Kevin Walsh read out on Galway Bay FM there.
Thanks to Kevin Walsh and all members of the back room team for the last 5 years, for all the criticism you'd have to say he left it in a better spot than when he took it over IMO.

I think it's the right time for him to go but it would be churlish not to admit that he did a very solid job for the most part. Granted he was helped with a noticeable increase in young talented players coming on stream but credit must be given all the same. He got Galway promoted to division 1 where they have looked comfortable, got them to a league final, won Connacht titles and got them to an All Ireland semi-final. Galway were a long way from that in the years previous to him.

He had a few horrendous defeats which followed him around like a bad smell during his tenure and the style of football was never going to win many admirers locally but he did the county some service.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 03, 2019, 12:49:55 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDiP871WsAAft2C?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 12:54:13 PM
Quote from: galwayman on September 03, 2019, 12:30:02 PM
I feel a bit sad for Kevin Walsh today to be honest.
Criticism comes with the territory in county management but I felt there was a huge lack of respect shown to the man this year from a lot of quarters within the county. Whilst I would be in agreement that a change was needed for 2020 - most teams need a fresh voice after a period of time and Kevin did 5 seasons - but still it leaves a bad taste in the mouth imo.
As a supporter I can only thank the man for the huge effort put in over the past 5 years and there is no doubt we are better than we were when he took over.

The amount of abuse from people that don't even bother going to matches was ridiculous and a lot of the voices giving out about the style seem to have long forgotten kicking only 7 scores against Mayo in 2011, Casement Park in 2012, Sligo 2012, Wexford 2010, Mayo 2013 etc. This year wasn't great but we were an absolute f**king mess for years.
Lads thinking that because Corofin have a great team that Galway should as well is more madness, there was (I think) only one player from a very dominant (outside of the club final) Dr Crokes side on the Kerry team Sunday and he was the worst of the lot on the day.

As you say it was plainly time for a change based on how 2019 went and 5 years is a significant time to be in charge these days, but in time I hope some credit for the improvements made to the overall setup and standard at Senior level made under KW will be acknowledged, he was a playing legend in Galway and should be afforded respect at the very least.

Best of luck to whoever comes in for 2020, people should keep an open mind regardless of the appointment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on September 03, 2019, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 30, 2019, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 03, 2019, 02:53:29 AM
Quote from: FermGael on July 31, 2019, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on July 30, 2019, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 26, 2019, 03:01:40 PM
Is Monaghan's objective to go backwards in finding a replacement for O'Rourke?


'Banty' return could be on the cards in Monaghan


Seamus McEnaney is one of the frontrunners to replace Malachy O'Rourke as Monaghan senior football manager.

The Corduff clubman – current manager of the Monaghan U20s - previously managed his native county for six years between 2004 and 2010, leading them to two Ulster finals and a Division Two league title. He has managed Meath and Wexford in the meantime.


According to The Irish News, his is one of three names that have gone forward to the Monaghan County Board this week, with interviews expected to be carried out soon.

The other two candidates for the vacant post are reported to be former Crossmaglen manager Tony McEntee and former Scotstown and Cavan boss Mattie McGleenan.

This cannot and won't happen..

Don't worry. According to the Irish News Backpage today it's not Banty on his own. It's Banty and Rory Gallagher.
This cannot and won't happen.


Banty has happened lads.  GrandMasterFlash and Main Street can you describe that reappointment in 3 words?

Backward, regressive, unambitious. There's my 3.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on September 03, 2019, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on September 03, 2019, 09:13:23 AM
Quote from: oliverkelly on September 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 02, 2019, 01:56:08 PM
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.

That's up to Galway, but if you win an All Ireland Club in a county, your going to have a good reputation in that county to live off for awhile. Lest we forget he suffered some serious bad luck on the biggest one of them all. He arguably was in charge of the best team to lose the AI.

He basically lost Mayo an All Ireland by changing his goal keeper for the final which was one of the stupidiest pieces of management the game has ever seen.  Also his record in connaght to not win one in three attempts is a very poor record and dont give me this shite of they were'nt targetting them. No Mayo team goes out to lose to Galway.
Anyway with Walsh gone i think it would be a step back for Galway to appoint Stephen

It's possible they would have won if they had stuck with Clarke. It's also possible they would have lost by more than the solitary point they did lose by. There is no way of knowing.
The one thing for sure is it was not the Mayo management's fault that the selected goalkeeper dropped a ball under absolutely no pressure. Nobody could have foreseen that.
Rochford made a brave call again the following year with O'Shea at full back. They won (after a replay). They may have won by more had he not done so. We will never know.
What we do know is that many players that have played under Rochford think he is an excellent coach/manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 03, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Galway are out of the Championship 2 months. Walsh could have confirmed his exit a bit earlier to give his successor more time to look at the Club championship

Would the Corofin manager be interested, Kevin O Brien?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 03, 2019, 04:16:42 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 03, 2019, 12:49:55 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDiP871WsAAft2C?format=png&name=small)

A decent record when you match it up with the five years before Walsh arrived. 2018 was his peak leading Galway to the NFL final and AI semi final, if Dublin weren't standing in their way for both games they might have won both? What will next five years bring for Galway is main question now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Seen this pointed out elsewhere and I hadn't noticed the not so subtle edit that the county board made to the actual full statement from Kevin Walsh and the version that was posted on Galwaygaa.ie https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management (https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management)

Key paragraph that they left out:
QuoteI emphatically believe that there are great things to come for Galway football. Having had the opportunity to work with professionals at the top of their field over the last number of years, I would like to see the recommendations in our reports to the County Board which included facilities and equipment, operations, alignment and development of underage teams through to senior level, finance, competition structures, player development and welfare, medical screening and deep level coaching continue to be implemented in the interests of Galway football going forward.

All the things that are being done to the highest levels now in the likes of Kerry and Dublin. All the things that cost money, require clear vision, good planning and real expertise. Funny that was what they choose to excise from KW's full statement.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 03, 2019, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 03, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
Confirmation that Galway Senior footballers will be looking for a new manager, official statement from Kevin Walsh read out on Galway Bay FM there.
Thanks to Kevin Walsh and all members of the back room team for the last 5 years, for all the criticism you'd have to say he left it in a better spot than when he took it over IMO.

I think it's the right time for him to go but it would be churlish not to admit that he did a very solid job for the most part. Granted he was helped with a noticeable increase in young talented players coming on stream but credit must be given all the same. He got Galway promoted to division 1 where they have looked comfortable, got them to a league final, won Connacht titles and got them to an All Ireland semi-final. Galway were a long way from that in the years previous to him.

He had a few horrendous defeats which followed him around like a bad smell during his tenure and the style of football was never going to win many admirers locally but he did the county some service.
This year was quite disappointing. The road back to the top is very long.
Galway also got an Allstar last year.  Division 1 was a big improvement. I think people are disappointed that there wasn't further progress.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 03, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
Rory Gallagher to be confirmed as Derry Manager tonight. He's going through the Counties, like he did as a player with different clubs and counties.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 03, 2019, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Seen this pointed out elsewhere and I hadn't noticed the not so subtle edit that the county board made to the actual full statement from Kevin Walsh and the version that was posted on Galwaygaa.ie https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management (https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management)

Key paragraph that they left out:
QuoteI emphatically believe that there are great things to come for Galway football. Having had the opportunity to work with professionals at the top of their field over the last number of years, I would like to see the recommendations in our reports to the County Board which included facilities and equipment, operations, alignment and development of underage teams through to senior level, finance, competition structures, player development and welfare, medical screening and deep level coaching continue to be implemented in the interests of Galway football going forward.

All the things that are being done to the highest levels now in the likes of Kerry and Dublin. All the things that cost money, require clear vision, good planning and real expertise. Funny that was what they choose to excise from KW's full statement.

Going by this and the Donoghue departure it's fairly obvious that they want to do things on the relative cheap for the foreseeable. This is going to be a major sticking point for any candidates for both jobs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on September 03, 2019, 07:05:11 PM
Danny Cummins is on off the ball at half 7 talking about KW leaving.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 03, 2019, 05:23:03 PM
Rory Gallagher to be confirmed as Derry Manager tonight. He's going through the Counties, like he did as a player with different clubs and counties.

You sure about that???
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 03, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
He's the only one in the reckoning so who else can they go for, unless the Clubs object? Johnny Mcbride pulled out
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 03, 2019, 07:39:13 PM
Would Malachy O'Rourke be an option for Galway? If Rochford is staying on with Donegal i presume the main options will be P Joyce,J Divilly and K O'Brien.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 03, 2019, 09:11:37 PM
Rory has been confirmed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: moysider on September 03, 2019, 10:04:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 03, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Galway are out of the Championship 2 months. Walsh could have confirmed his exit a bit earlier to give his successor more time to look at the Club championship

Would the Corofin manager be interested, Kevin O Brien?

Probably initially intended to stay on. However it appears that the board were sounding out likes of Gallagher and O Rourke. That made his position untenable.
Strange really because it board hardly prepared to pay what those outsiders would command.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 03, 2019, 10:11:59 PM
Quote from: moysider on September 03, 2019, 10:04:52 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 03, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Galway are out of the Championship 2 months. Walsh could have confirmed his exit a bit earlier to give his successor more time to look at the Club championship

Would the Corofin manager be interested, Kevin O Brien?

Probably initially intended to stay on. However it appears that the board were sounding out likes of Gallagher and O Rourke. That made his position untenable.
Strange really because it board hardly prepared to pay what those outsiders would command.

Don't think neither was on Galway's radar. Rochford and Joyce would be but one looks to be staying with Donegal and other wants to stay with U20s a little longer for more management experience it seems.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on September 03, 2019, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 03, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both

That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!

It's probably a consultancy role, Tyrone was more hands on.
Do you think he'd let his name be put down as the fitness coach for the Monaghan team and do it by Skype? :D He has a reputation and a sense of duty to uphold.
There is little doubt he will be able to attend enough of the training sessions to do his job properly, he'll monitor the players fitness and nutrition levels directly and from a distance, maybe he'll even be able to attend the odd match.
Probably you could be  right about Tyrone being more demanding, Monaghan may be prepared to be more flexible with his schedule and his direct committment but could Tyrone not have facilitated him in the same way?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 04, 2019, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Seen this pointed out elsewhere and I hadn't noticed the not so subtle edit that the county board made to the actual full statement from Kevin Walsh and the version that was posted on Galwaygaa.ie https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management (https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management)

Key paragraph that they left out:
QuoteI emphatically believe that there are great things to come for Galway football. Having had the opportunity to work with professionals at the top of their field over the last number of years, I would like to see the recommendations in our reports to the County Board which included facilities and equipment, operations, alignment and development of underage teams through to senior level, finance, competition structures, player development and welfare, medical screening and deep level coaching continue to be implemented in the interests of Galway football going forward.

All the things that are being done to the highest levels now in the likes of Kerry and Dublin. All the things that cost money, require clear vision, good planning and real expertise. Funny that was what they choose to excise from KW's full statement.

He's there 5 years. Did he not think of putting these in place until he was leaving? Or discuss with the county board during his 5 years?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on September 04, 2019, 11:08:44 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 03, 2019, 11:49:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 10:29:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 03, 2019, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 03, 2019, 07:10:41 AM
Was Donnelly to Ulster rugby not true, or will he be doing both?

Both

That's very interesting. . . has there been a fall out there?? Why would he abandon Tyrone and head to Monaghan?!!

It's probably a consultancy role, Tyrone was more hands on.
Do you think he'd let his name be put down as the fitness coach for the Monaghan team and do it by Skype? :D He has a reputation and a sense of duty to uphold.
There is little doubt he will be able to attend enough of the training sessions to do his job properly, he'll monitor the players fitness and nutrition levels directly and from a distance, maybe he'll even be able to attend the odd match.
Probably you could be  right about Tyrone being more demanding, Monaghan may be prepared to be more flexible with his schedule and his direct committment but could Tyrone not have facilitated him in the same way?

How many hours per week do you think a job with Ulster Academy will entail? Donnelly will have plenty of free time. It's a permanent role dealing with young men 16-20 year old, they don't even need that much S+C because their bodies are still developing. He won't be near the 'full timers'.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 04, 2019, 12:24:25 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 04, 2019, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on September 03, 2019, 04:46:35 PM
Seen this pointed out elsewhere and I hadn't noticed the not so subtle edit that the county board made to the actual full statement from Kevin Walsh and the version that was posted on Galwaygaa.ie https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management (https://www.galwaygaa.ie/news/124-football/2200-press-release-galway-senior-football-management)

Key paragraph that they left out:
QuoteI emphatically believe that there are great things to come for Galway football. Having had the opportunity to work with professionals at the top of their field over the last number of years, I would like to see the recommendations in our reports to the County Board which included facilities and equipment, operations, alignment and development of underage teams through to senior level, finance, competition structures, player development and welfare, medical screening and deep level coaching continue to be implemented in the interests of Galway football going forward.

All the things that are being done to the highest levels now in the likes of Kerry and Dublin. All the things that cost money, require clear vision, good planning and real expertise. Funny that was what they choose to excise from KW's full statement.

He's there 5 years. Did he not think of putting these in place until he was leaving? Or discuss with the county board during his 5 years?

Only a guess on my part but far more likely that these things were asked for and support was not provided to put in place, it does mention reports so the assumption has to be that this is not something that is just being landed into them while he is heading out the door. I realise that you don't rate KW as a manager at all but I think we need to separate who the manager is and his relative merits/demerits out from the more longer term, systemic issues raised in that particular section of his statement, and why the Galway County board would, farcically, edit that out from the statement as published on the official Galway county GAA website. It has since been changed on the website again to reflect the original statement in full.

Donoghue seems to have left the hurling position over funding issues. The same hurling manager who won Galway their first AI in 30 years wasn't officially thanked by the county board for 8 days after he left, a bizarre situation in any instance.
And lets be very clear here, whatever valid gripes Donoghue had with the CB with respect to the hurlers, the footballers are allegedly very much the poor relation, it's a hurling orientated county board. It's the clowns on the hurling side that have put the Mountain South albatross on Galway. The footballers already had Loughgeorge built, the hurlers had nothing, now Loughgeorge is shared between all teams and it's not big enough for that.

On the GBFM interview yesterday morning with Galway chairman Pat Kearney, a gentle enough question was put to him about the part quoted above around support structures and finance, his response was not convincing in the slightest.
I'm sure that people closer to the ground in Galway will have a much better idea of the real issues than myself but certainly there's plenty of rumours about how Galway GAA has been run in the recent past that couldn't be posted up here for fear of litigation. Where is the official GAA follow up to all the financial irregularities in Galway that came to the surface last year? Seems to have been all just swept under the carpet. How did Cork GAA make a very substantial profit when they hosted Ed Sheeran gigs in PUC and yet Galway GAA seemed to have only made a pittance in comparison from the same musician when he played two sold out shows in Pearse Stadium? Where did the money all go?
Galway GAA has sizeable debt, how many of the same people involved in creating this debt through bad judgement are still involved and if so, on what possible basis?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: t_mac on September 04, 2019, 12:44:38 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 03, 2019, 09:11:37 PM
Rory has been confirmed.

Poor Derry - they are fcuked now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2019, 10:18:28 PM
From Galway Bay FM

Betting this evening has been suspended on Pádraig Joyce becoming the next senior Galway football manager. We understand a meeting of the players and Galway GAA officials is set to take place tomorrow. More to follow.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 06, 2019, 11:23:28 PM
Hmmmmm....
Meanwhile Ros CB have advertised for applicants for the U20 position.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on September 06, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Schkite on September 07, 2019, 12:54:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 06, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!

He fairly hoors himself about
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 07, 2019, 01:04:47 PM
Quote from: ck on September 06, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!
A certain oul lad in Kerry got about a bit.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trileacman on September 07, 2019, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: ck on September 06, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
Heard a good one tonight about Rory Gallagher.

He has played for 4 different clubs in Ireland and 3 in USA and has played for 2 different counties also. He has coached 10+ different clubs, mostly short term and Derry is his 3rd different county to manage in space of 3yrs.

Has there ever been a greater journey man in the history of the GAA!

Who were the 4 clubs?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Erne Man on September 07, 2019, 02:27:34 PM
His home club Erne Gaels, St Brigids in Dublin, St Galls in Antrim and he is bound to have made a token appearance for a club in Cavan when he played inter county there - Crosserlough maybe?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on September 07, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
Allegedly he was at the forefront of players moving into Dublin clubs and had a Renault car when he moved in, his brother was also allegedly provided with a car.  Can't remember which one smashed the car shortly after receipt.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 07, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 07, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
Allegedly he was at the forefront of players moving into Dublin clubs and had a Renault car when he moved in, his brother was also allegedly provided with a car.  Can't remember which one smashed the car shortly after receipt.

Doubt you are getting family connections mixed up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on September 07, 2019, 10:53:53 PM
Ray Tee Bone is what's called a stats man and he's now in on the Banty super backroom team. As is well known, he was in the Dublin back yard team previously, but what is almost lost in that detail is that he was the clip board man who entered the field of play in a league encounter at Parnell Pk to attempt to batter Tommy Freeman with his clip board, after the bould Tommy deftly won a last gasp free allowing Monaghan an easy opportunity to (deservedly) level the scores. All this was recorded live on national tv. Pillar was the Dublin manager then and he drove up to the next Monaghan training session  with T Bone manacled in the boot so that Bone could apologise in person to the good people of Monaghan, who don't go around attacking opposition players with clipboards.

It's safe to say I am astounded that a stats man has such a passion for the game as i was led to believe he just did not get involved on any level outside the maths.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on September 08, 2019, 12:13:42 AM
Quote from: Erne Man on September 07, 2019, 02:27:34 PM
His home club Erne Gaels, St Brigids in Dublin, St Galls in Antrim and he is bound to have made a token appearance for a club in Cavan when he played inter county there - Crosserlough maybe?

Dont know was it a token appearance but it was for crosserlough.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 08, 2019, 12:23:37 AM
Played 4 or 5 games with Crosserlough. He left in the summer and returned to St Brigids for championship.

He played Sigerson with Sligo It also.won 1 or 2 Sigersons with them
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 09, 2019, 11:16:03 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 08, 2019, 12:23:37 AM
Played 4 or 5 games with Crosserlough. He left in the summer and returned to St Brigids for championship.

He played Sigerson with Sligo It also.won 1 or 2 Sigersons with them

Jesus he loves coaching. Who's he managing next year? Antrim? Laois? Surely it's only a matter of time till he picks up the International rules reigns? Will he cross codes like Jim before him, Finn Harps perhaps?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on September 09, 2019, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 09, 2019, 11:16:03 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 08, 2019, 12:23:37 AM
Played 4 or 5 games with Crosserlough. He left in the summer and returned to St Brigids for championship.

He played Sigerson with Sligo It also.won 1 or 2 Sigersons with them

Jesus he loves coaching. Who's he managing next year? Antrim? Laois? Surely it's only a matter of time till he picks up the International rules reigns? Will he cross codes like Jim before him, Finn Harps perhaps?

Yeah he loves the oul "coaching" (money!) alright. Seriously though, is there ANY other man in Ireland who has played for 4 different irish clubs? Wouldn't you be embarrassed after the second one!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 09, 2019, 03:52:04 PM
Quote from: ck on September 09, 2019, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 09, 2019, 11:16:03 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 08, 2019, 12:23:37 AM
Played 4 or 5 games with Crosserlough. He left in the summer and returned to St Brigids for championship.

He played Sigerson with Sligo It also.won 1 or 2 Sigersons with them

Jesus he loves coaching. Who's he managing next year? Antrim? Laois? Surely it's only a matter of time till he picks up the International rules reigns? Will he cross codes like Jim before him, Finn Harps perhaps?


Yeah he loves the oul "coaching" (money!) alright. Seriously though, is there ANY other man in Ireland who has played for 4 different irish clubs? Wouldn't you be embarrassed after the second one!


My Grandad played for

Rochfortbridge Warriors
The Garda Club
Parnells
Ardagh in Longford
Sarsfields in Newbridge
and Maynooth

He was a Garda, only played inter-county with Westmeath, even turned down Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 09, 2019, 05:14:26 PM
Any update on the Galway Football Job ? behind the news that PJ has it ?

It appears both Donoghue and Walsh were asked to cut their budgets by 200k each for the 2020 season, both balked at this idea.

It seems that there is no money to bring in an outside man, and its commonly believed that PJ has the contacts/resources necessary for funding the running of the team something no other candidate can bring to the table. A situation could arise now where PJ is the only person nominated.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 09, 2019, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on September 09, 2019, 05:14:26 PM
Any update on the Galway Football Job ? behind the news that PJ has it ?

It appears both Donoghue and Walsh were asked to cut their budgets by 200k each for the 2020 season, both balked at this idea.

That's a big cutback if true. Can see why they would walk over that.

County board are a bunch of jokers but Galway are a victim of their own success in a way. Even this year both minor sides were in All-Ireland finals. The women are in both All-Ireland finals. Being so competitive in both codes across all age grades with both men and women must be a serious expenditure. Cutting back senior squad budgets though is always going to go down like a lead balloon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 09, 2019, 11:40:24 PM
Financial misdeeds catching up with Galway CB.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 12, 2019, 05:09:17 PM
Mike Quirke to Laois
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 12, 2019, 06:42:53 PM
Looks like David Power who managed Tipps minors to All Ireland in 2011 will become their new senior manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
QuoteTrue? Not true? Who knows?

Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford is strongly tipped to be named the new Galway senior football team manager within the coming days.

The Connaught Telegraph understands that the Ballinrobe coach is the top choice of the Galway County GAA Board to replace Kevin Walsh, who retired from the position earlier this month after serving five years in the role.

It is understood Rochford will be joined on his management team by Padraig Joyce and John Divilly, the duo who led the tribesmen to the Connacht Under-20 title this year, with a view to Joyce and Divilly taking over the senior post in three years time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearsiuil on September 15, 2019, 02:54:25 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
QuoteTrue? Not true? Who knows?

Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford is strongly tipped to be named the new Galway senior football team manager within the coming days.

The Connaught Telegraph understands that the Ballinrobe coach is the top choice of the Galway County GAA Board to replace Kevin Walsh, who retired from the position earlier this month after serving five years in the role.

It is understood Rochford will be joined on his management team by Padraig Joyce and John Divilly, the duo who led the tribesmen to the Connacht Under-20 title this year, with a view to Joyce and Divilly taking over the senior post in three years time.

If true some fall for the Galway superior brigade.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 15, 2019, 06:25:10 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
QuoteTrue? Not true? Who knows?

Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford is strongly tipped to be named the new Galway senior football team manager within the coming days.

The Connaught Telegraph understands that the Ballinrobe coach is the top choice of the Galway County GAA Board to replace Kevin Walsh, who retired from the position earlier this month after serving five years in the role.

It is understood Rochford will be joined on his management team by Padraig Joyce and John Divilly, the duo who led the tribesmen to the Connacht Under-20 title this year, with a view to Joyce and Divilly taking over the senior post in three years time.

The telegraph speculate plentyful but are right a lot of the time. I wonder are Joyce and Divily to stick managing the U20s while part of Rochfords senior management?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ballinaman on September 15, 2019, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 15, 2019, 06:25:10 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
QuoteTrue? Not true? Who knows?

Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford is strongly tipped to be named the new Galway senior football team manager within the coming days.

The Connaught Telegraph understands that the Ballinrobe coach is the top choice of the Galway County GAA Board to replace Kevin Walsh, who retired from the position earlier this month after serving five years in the role.

It is understood Rochford will be joined on his management team by Padraig Joyce and John Divilly, the duo who led the tribesmen to the Connacht Under-20 title this year, with a view to Joyce and Divilly taking over the senior post in three years time.

The telegraph speculate plentyful but are right a lot of the time. I wonder are Joyce and Divily to stick managing the U20s while part of Rochfords senior management?
Joyce and back room team went on the beer on a training weekend in Limerick post Connacht final and pre AI semi final to Dublin. Team meeting had to be delayed because they all had heads on them the Sunday morning. Doubt that has gone down well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 15, 2019, 06:25:10 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
QuoteTrue? Not true? Who knows?

Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford is strongly tipped to be named the new Galway senior football team manager within the coming days.

The Connaught Telegraph understands that the Ballinrobe coach is the top choice of the Galway County GAA Board to replace Kevin Walsh, who retired from the position earlier this month after serving five years in the role.

It is understood Rochford will be joined on his management team by Padraig Joyce and John Divilly, the duo who led the tribesmen to the Connacht Under-20 title this year, with a view to Joyce and Divilly taking over the senior post in three years time.

The telegraph speculate plentyful but are right a lot of the time. I wonder are Joyce and Divily to stick managing the U20s while part of Rochfords senior management?

Examiner is saying Rochford is staying with Donegal so looks like someone was fed some misinformation.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
rochford taking over wont make a difference. attitude problem with the squad. a lot of people think Galway will suddenly become all ireland contenders once the manager is changed. I'm not convinced.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
rochford taking over wont make a difference. attitude problem with the squad. a lot of people think Galway will suddenly become all ireland contenders once the manager is changed. I'm not convinced.

Right management team can make a huge difference to teams. We see it year after year. Doesn't mean they will win an AI but to say it doesn't make any difference is ridiculous. Otherwise why bother with managers or coaches at all?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
rochford taking over wont make a difference. attitude problem with the squad. a lot of people think Galway will suddenly become all ireland contenders once the manager is changed. I'm not convinced.

Right management team can make a huge difference to teams. We see it year after year. Doesn't mean they will win an AI but to say it doesn't make any difference is ridiculous. Otherwise why bother with managers or coaches at all?

the squad have a bad attitude. too many there who just like being part of an inter county team and seem to have no ambitions beyond beating mayo every year. showing up to games thinking they have it won before a ball is even thrown in. players going hiding on the big day. too many believe their own hype. they're a long way off the big teams
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on September 15, 2019, 04:24:21 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
rochford taking over wont make a difference. attitude problem with the squad. a lot of people think Galway will suddenly become all ireland contenders once the manager is changed. I'm not convinced.

Right management team can make a huge difference to teams. We see it year after year. Doesn't mean they will win an AI but to say it doesn't make any difference is ridiculous. Otherwise why bother with managers or coaches at all?

the squad have a bad attitude. too many there who just like being part of an inter county team and seem to have no ambitions beyond beating mayo every year. showing up to games thinking they have it won before a ball is even thrown in. players going hiding on the big day. too many believe their own hype. they're a long way off the big teams

They were in a semi-final last year and were only beaten by 2 division 1 teams this summer. With a top management team it's very possible Galway will be as good or better than Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal and possibly Kerry next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 15, 2019, 04:48:25 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
rochford taking over wont make a difference. attitude problem with the squad. a lot of people think Galway will suddenly become all ireland contenders once the manager is changed. I'm not convinced.

Right management team can make a huge difference to teams. We see it year after year. Doesn't mean they will win an AI but to say it doesn't make any difference is ridiculous. Otherwise why bother with managers or coaches at all?

the squad have a bad attitude. too many there who just like being part of an inter county team and seem to have no ambitions beyond beating mayo every year. showing up to games thinking they have it won before a ball is even thrown in. players going hiding on the big day. too many believe their own hype. they're a long way off the big teams

Its not so long ago that Dublin had panels full of players with bad attitudes. A good management team can make the difference.

Kevin Walsh has left a decent panel behind with a good age profile and they have plenty of good underage players waiting for their chance to impress at senior level it's a type of job that plenty of high profile managers should be interested in but maybe Galway will go local again if Rochford sticks with Donegal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 05:33:07 PM
Not sure what the Telegraph were hearing but sounds like it was false. Rochford has said himself at some AIB thing that he's staying with Donegal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on September 15, 2019, 04:24:21 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:49:04 PM
Quote from: WhoDat on September 15, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
rochford taking over wont make a difference. attitude problem with the squad. a lot of people think Galway will suddenly become all ireland contenders once the manager is changed. I'm not convinced.

Right management team can make a huge difference to teams. We see it year after year. Doesn't mean they will win an AI but to say it doesn't make any difference is ridiculous. Otherwise why bother with managers or coaches at all?

the squad have a bad attitude. too many there who just like being part of an inter county team and seem to have no ambitions beyond beating mayo every year. showing up to games thinking they have it won before a ball is even thrown in. players going hiding on the big day. too many believe their own hype. they're a long way off the big teams

They were in a semi-final last year and were only beaten by 2 division 1 teams this summer. With a top management team it's very possible Galway will be as good or better than Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal and possibly Kerry next year.

i'm telling you now they won't. there's so much mythologising around galway football, people still dining off past glories and clinging onto the idea that galway play football "the right way" and sure it's only a matter of time before they come good and start winning all irelands again like in the past. what exactly is this based on other than past glories? the current team aren't good enough and still won't be even if a new manager comes in.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owen Brannigan on September 16, 2019, 07:05:09 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 15, 2019, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 15, 2019, 06:25:10 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 15, 2019, 02:42:54 AM
QuoteTrue? Not true? Who knows?

Former Mayo manager Stephen Rochford is strongly tipped to be named the new Galway senior football team manager within the coming days.

The Connaught Telegraph understands that the Ballinrobe coach is the top choice of the Galway County GAA Board to replace Kevin Walsh, who retired from the position earlier this month after serving five years in the role.

It is understood Rochford will be joined on his management team by Padraig Joyce and John Divilly, the duo who led the tribesmen to the Connacht Under-20 title this year, with a view to Joyce and Divilly taking over the senior post in three years time.

The telegraph speculate plentyful but are right a lot of the time. I wonder are Joyce and Divily to stick managing the U20s while part of Rochfords senior management?
Joyce and back room team went on the beer on a training weekend in Limerick post Connacht final and pre AI semi final to Dublin. Team meeting had to be delayed because they all had heads on them the Sunday morning. Doubt that has gone down well.

Not the worst thing that managers have being doing recently on team weekends if allegations are even nearly true.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on September 17, 2019, 03:26:23 PM
Galway 2018 had stoneage tactics, albeit prefectly honed and executed by Paddy Tally. They came up short in the end and I felt they went too defensive which stopped them going farther. It was a semi final and league finals they lost though. When Tally left KW didn't know how to or whether to stick or twist. Players looked confused and frustrated...even Ian Burke looking narky and getting booked etc. I think a fresh face and more positive tactics will bear fruit...I certainly expect a big improvement from Galway. Their backs will remain suspect but look at what Kerry did this year with a supposedly dodgy back line.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 17, 2019, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on September 17, 2019, 03:26:23 PM
Galway 2018 had stoneage tactics, albeit prefectly honed and executed by Paddy Tally. They came up short in the end and I felt they went too defensive which stopped them going farther. It was a semi final and league finals they lost though. When Tally left KW didn't know how to or whether to stick or twist. Players looked confused and frustrated...even Ian Burke looking narky and getting booked etc. I think a fresh face and more positive tactics will bear fruit...I certainly expect a big improvement from Galway. Their backs will remain suspect but look at what Kerry did this year with a supposedly dodgy back line.

I think the Tally influence has been overplayed. Galway have been playing that way since Walsh arrived, even Leitrim complained about their defensive tactics in 2015. Galway won Connacht, bet Mayo a few times and got promoted to division 1 before Tallly joined their management team.

Kerry have Donie Buckley on board to shore up their defence but the evidence of both All Ireland finals they are still very much work in progress. Seeing that Galway played Dublin in both the NFL and AI semi final in 2018 I don't think they would have got further regardless of what tactics they used.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 17, 2019, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

It's being received very positively in Cork. Have to say he always struck me as a spoofer.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 09:04:27 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 17, 2019, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

It's being received very positively in Cork. Have to say he always struck me as a spoofer.

Was he not well thought of during his time as coach in mayo? Ditto in kerry and Tipp I believe.

He hasn't proven to be a good manager mind you
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tatler Jack on September 17, 2019, 09:11:38 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 17, 2019, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

It's being received very positively in Cork. Have to say he always struck me as a spoofer.

If he is a spoofer he won't be alone around IC teams. Seems to be an attribute that does no harm in getting gigs. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on September 18, 2019, 09:55:36 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 17, 2019, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

It's being received very positively in Cork. Have to say he always struck me as a spoofer.

Most certainly not a spoofer - however may be one of these guys who is better in the background than being the main man.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

I am sure he's getting reimbursed for expenses but amazes how Dublin fans, not all, seem obsessed with managers getting paid but never pass comment on Mattie Kenny, Anthony Daly etc. And then you look at the Dublin Football team's backroom. Amazing how they get professionals in their sphere to volunteer like that.

Anyway - decent appointment for Cork, Cian will bring a lot expertise & experience to Cork, had a good three years (2 promotions & Super8) before a year too far. Hope it goes well for him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2019, 10:45:17 AM
Isn't O'Neill based in Cork?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 18, 2019, 10:45:17 AM
Isn't O'Neill based in Cork?

Yep Head of Dept of Sport, Leisure & Child Studies in C.I.T.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

I am sure he's getting reimbursed for expenses but amazes how Dublin fans, not all, seem obsessed with managers getting paid but never pass comment on Mattie Kenny, Anthony Daly etc. And then you look at the Dublin Football team's backroom. Amazing how they get professionals in their sphere to volunteer like that.

Anyway - decent appointment for Cork, Cian will bring a lot expertise & experience to Cork, had a good three years (2 promotions & Super8) before a year too far. Hope it goes well for him.

Look back on the thread, i have done, in particulary at club level in Dublin.

I am just pointing it out. There is a lot of hypocrisy out there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 01:46:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

I am sure he's getting reimbursed for expenses but amazes how Dublin fans, not all, seem obsessed with managers getting paid but never pass comment on Mattie Kenny, Anthony Daly etc. And then you look at the Dublin Football team's backroom. Amazing how they get professionals in their sphere to volunteer like that.

Anyway - decent appointment for Cork, Cian will bring a lot expertise & experience to Cork, had a good three years (2 promotions & Super8) before a year too far. Hope it goes well for him.

Look back on the thread, i have done, in particulary at club level in Dublin.

I am just pointing it out. There is a lot of hypocrisy out there.

Obviously  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 03:31:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 01:46:31 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2019, 10:41:24 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 17, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

I am sure he's getting reimbursed for expenses but amazes how Dublin fans, not all, seem obsessed with managers getting paid but never pass comment on Mattie Kenny, Anthony Daly etc. And then you look at the Dublin Football team's backroom. Amazing how they get professionals in their sphere to volunteer like that.

Anyway - decent appointment for Cork, Cian will bring a lot expertise & experience to Cork, had a good three years (2 promotions & Super8) before a year too far. Hope it goes well for him.

Look back on the thread, i have done, in particulary at club level in Dublin.

I am just pointing it out. There is a lot of hypocrisy out there.

Obviously  ::)

Exactley.

Iv stated it before, all payments and expenses to managment teams should be published, at club and IC level.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
I'm sure said accounts would show them paying out claimed expenses only. ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: TheGreatest on September 18, 2019, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 18, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
I'm sure said accounts would show them paying out claimed expenses only. ;)

Im sure too, its hard one to prove alright with cash and private payments.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on September 23, 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Heard that Donie Buckley might be on the ticket with of the men been interviewed for the Galway job. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on September 23, 2019, 11:20:43 AM
Quote from: badball on September 23, 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Heard that Donie Buckley might be on the ticket with of the men been interviewed for the Galway job.

Be very surprised if he was. He was delighted to be going back to Kerry this year and Kerry county board basically gave the job to Keane ahead of O'Connor because Buckley wouldnt go in with O'Connor. Kerry were mad to get him back involved. He also turned down approaches to become Senior county manager of a few counties to go back to Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 23, 2019, 11:47:02 AM
Wouldn't make any sense for Buckley to leave Kerry but I've pretty much given up listening to the rumour mill around the Galway football job at this stage, so much hearsay and incorrect information flying around since Walsh departed. Closing date for nominations is the end of the week so hopefully we'll have some actual clarity then.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 23, 2019, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: badball on September 23, 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Heard that Donie Buckley might be on the ticket with of the men been interviewed for the Galway job.

That would be odd. He was years away from Kerry before landing back with his native county. He'd hardly leave them after one year.

The only possible ticket he could be on is Liam Kearns I imagine. Can't see it though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on September 23, 2019, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 23, 2019, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: badball on September 23, 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Heard that Donie Buckley might be on the ticket with of the men been interviewed for the Galway job.

That would be odd. He was years away from Kerry before landing back with his native county. He'd hardly leave them after one year.

The only possible ticket he could be on is Liam Kearns I imagine. Can't see it though.

Is Rochford completely out of the running? I know he is with Donegal but I'd have thought he would be an obvious choice given his knowledge of Connacht football
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on September 23, 2019, 01:26:20 PM
Buckley had only a one year contract with Kerry .... Not sure he is happy with the Kerry set at the moment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 23, 2019, 02:14:47 PM
I believe the Burke chap who managed Kikdare to the U20 AI in 2018 is getting the Wickla number.?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 23, 2019, 06:51:33 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/davy-fitzgerald-linked-with-vacant-galway-hurling-position-1.4027920
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 24, 2019, 02:56:59 AM
Quote from: ck on September 23, 2019, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 23, 2019, 11:52:41 AM
Quote from: badball on September 23, 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Heard that Donie Buckley might be on the ticket with of the men been interviewed for the Galway job.

That would be odd. He was years away from Kerry before landing back with his native county. He'd hardly leave them after one year.

The only possible ticket he could be on is Liam Kearns I imagine. Can't see it though.

Is Rochford completely out of the running? I know he is with Donegal but I'd have thought he would be an obvious choice given his knowledge of Connacht football

He confirmed last week that he is staying with Donegal so I can't see him going back on that
https://www.highlandradio.com/2019/09/16/stephen-rochford-committed-to-donegal-ending-galway-speculation/ (https://www.highlandradio.com/2019/09/16/stephen-rochford-committed-to-donegal-ending-galway-speculation/)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 24, 2019, 11:11:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 23, 2019, 02:14:47 PM
I believe the Burke chap who managed Kikdare to the U20 AI in 2018 is getting the Wickla number.?

Appointed Wicklow manager tonight. Will be the youngest inter county manager in charge of senior team next year.


David Power also appointed as Tipp manager. His management team includes Mickey McGeehin (head coach) Charlie McGeever (led Clonmel Commercials to a Munster senior title in 2015) Tommy Toomey,Joe Hayes (former Clare goalkeeper) and Paddy Christie  former Dublin footballer,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 28, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
With club nominations closed for the Galway Senior Football Managerial position, there are 4 nominees for the job. Padraig Joyce, Alan Flynn, Liam Kearns and Matt Duggan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on September 28, 2019, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 28, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
With club nominations closed for the Galway Senior Football Managerial position, there are 4 nominees for the job. Padraig Joyce, Alan Flynn, Liam Kearns and Matt Duggan.

Padraic Joyce the only stand out candidate there, fairly underwhelming list. Heard Dave Morris was part of Alan Flynns proposed backroom team but don't know how true that is.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 28, 2019, 08:04:11 PM
Intercounty management for a Division One county is tough gig. You know you are part of the chasing bunch, but there is the leader of the pack - Dublin who can assign you to a humiliating finish to your season.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 28, 2019, 08:11:04 PM
It might be a foregone conclusion already but here's caveats associated with every candidate on that list regardless, would need to the makeup of each backroom team as well before making any major judgement.
The very best of luck to whoever gets it but I don't think we can expect  any manager appointment to be a sliver bullet solution to solve all our problems.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 28, 2019, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on September 28, 2019, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 28, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
With club nominations closed for the Galway Senior Football Managerial position, there are 4 nominees for the job. Padraig Joyce, Alan Flynn, Liam Kearns and Matt Duggan.

Padraic Joyce the only stand out candidate there, fairly underwhelming list. Heard Dave Morris was part of Alan Flynns proposed backroom team but don't know how true that is.

Is Joyce more of a stand out than Flynn who managed and coached Galway U21 teams to All Irelands? Kearns has a lot more experience than Joyce in management and has done a decent job with both Limerick and Tipp. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on September 28, 2019, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 28, 2019, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on September 28, 2019, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 28, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
With club nominations closed for the Galway Senior Football Managerial position, there are 4 nominees for the job. Padraig Joyce, Alan Flynn, Liam Kearns and Matt Duggan.

Padraic Joyce the only stand out candidate there, fairly underwhelming list. Heard Dave Morris was part of Alan Flynns proposed backroom team but don't know how true that is.

Is Joyce more of a stand out than Flynn who managed and coached Galway U21 teams to All Irelands? Kearns has a lot more experience than Joyce in management and has done a decent job with both Limerick and Tipp.

Meant big name moreso than experienced there really, Flynn was part of Alan Mulhollands backroom team too wasn't he? From what I've heard of Flynn a lot would depend on his backroom team before I'd be convinced he's the best candidate. We'll see. All quiet so far on the hurling front, no names coming out.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on September 29, 2019, 06:54:27 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on September 28, 2019, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 28, 2019, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on September 28, 2019, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 28, 2019, 07:21:15 PM
With club nominations closed for the Galway Senior Football Managerial position, there are 4 nominees for the job. Padraig Joyce, Alan Flynn, Liam Kearns and Matt Duggan.

Padraic Joyce the only stand out candidate there, fairly underwhelming list. Heard Dave Morris was part of Alan Flynns proposed backroom team but don't know how true that is.

Is Joyce more of a stand out than Flynn who managed and coached Galway U21 teams to All Irelands? Kearns has a lot more experience than Joyce in management and has done a decent job with both Limerick and Tipp.

Meant big name moreso than experienced there really, Flynn was part of Alan Mulhollands backroom team too wasn't he? From what I've heard of Flynn a lot would depend on his backroom team before I'd be convinced he's the best candidate. We'll see. All quiet so far on the hurling front, no names coming out.

Flynn was involved in backroom teams with Clare and Kildare in recent years. He was highly rated in Clare .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 29, 2019, 12:07:22 PM
You'd imagine PJ will get it if he really wants it because of who he is and presumably he's interested otherwise he'd hardly have let his name go forward. He's very inexperienced as a coach though so would need a strong backroom team and we have no details of any of the backroom teams behind the candidates. Is Divilly still part of the PJ package for example?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on September 29, 2019, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 29, 2019, 12:07:22 PM
You'd imagine PJ will get it if he really wants it because of who he is and presumably he's interested otherwise he'd hardly have let his name go forward. He's very inexperienced as a coach though so would need a strong backroom team and we have no details of any of the backroom teams behind the candidates. Is Divilly still part of the PJ package for example?

From what I've heard Divilly is still there which is fine with the board but there's another member of the u20 management on the ticket also who they're not quite so fond of.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on September 30, 2019, 12:39:52 PM
We'll just have to scan through the list of people on the ticket when it's announced to see who that could be.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on September 30, 2019, 12:47:22 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on September 30, 2019, 12:39:52 PM
We'll just have to scan through the list of people on the ticket when it's announced to see who that could be.

I wonder is this all CONjecture ?

Do you feel the county board are right in their CONcerns here ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on October 01, 2019, 10:51:35 PM
Heard today that Alan Flynn is taking his name off the list.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on October 03, 2019, 08:53:01 PM
Also heard today the Donie Buckley had parted company with Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on October 03, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
Quote from: badball on October 03, 2019, 08:53:01 PM
Also heard today the Donie Buckley had parted company with Kerry.

He has a remarkable record of being with losing AI final teams. He moved for the old 2nd best to the new 2nd best.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Halfquarter on October 03, 2019, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 03, 2019, 09:51:57 PM
Quote from: badball on October 03, 2019, 08:53:01 PM
Also heard today the Donie Buckley had parted company with Kerry.

He has a remarkable record of being with losing AI final teams. He moved for the old 2nd best to the new 2nd best.

Unfortunately, everyone is second best to Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on October 03, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: badball on October 03, 2019, 08:53:01 PM
Also heard today the Donie Buckley had parted company with Kerry.

3 posts, all about Donie Buckley leaving??  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on October 04, 2019, 12:57:02 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on October 03, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: badball on October 03, 2019, 08:53:01 PM
Also heard today the Donie Buckley had parted company with Kerry.

3 posts, all about Donie Buckley leaving??  ;D

What wonderful info from
Kerryforsams aka every new poster over the past month or so,
oh and don't forget "The Greatest" that is him also.

He should have used "the greatest idiot"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on October 04, 2019, 10:23:55 AM
What role did Mick Culhane have in the Galway u20's this year? I see his name mentioned this morning as part of PJ's team.

PJ well able to generate a far bigger budget for his team than anyone else.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on October 04, 2019, 11:58:22 AM
PJ bringing Kerrys Seamus Moynihan with him. Lads around here are good at adding ... add that one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AZOffaly on October 04, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: badball on October 04, 2019, 11:58:22 AM
PJ bringing Kerrys Seamus Moynihan with him. Lads around here are good at adding ... add that one.

didn't they play together in IT Tralee?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 04, 2019, 01:04:48 PM
Pádraic Joyce is seen by many as the favourite to succeed Kevin Walsh as Galway Senior Football manager.

A potential stumbling block, however, could be the make-up of Joyce's management team, it's being reported in this week's Connacht Tribune.

John Divilly, Liam Sammon, John Concannon & Mick Culhane were all involved with Joyce this year with the Galway U-20 Footballers.

There appears to be some resistance to that group taking over the Galway Seniors en-bloc.

Joyce is surely aware of that & may be altering his backroom personnel in any event.

This is also speculation that Alan Flynn could link up with Joyce in a coaching capacity, following his withdrawal as a nominee.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on October 04, 2019, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 04, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: badball on October 04, 2019, 11:58:22 AM
PJ bringing Kerrys Seamus Moynihan with him. Lads around here are good at adding ... add that one.

didn't they play together in IT Tralee?

Good friends for twenty years plus I'd say. Wasn't surprised to hear that, hope he keeps Divilly and Sammon on board also. Wouldn't be too pushed about the rest of the u20 management.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearsiuil on October 04, 2019, 03:42:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 04, 2019, 03:08:52 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 04, 2019, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: badball on October 04, 2019, 11:58:22 AM
PJ bringing Kerrys Seamus Moynihan with him. Lads around here are good at adding ... add that one.

didn't they play together in IT Tralee?

Good friends for twenty years plus I'd say. Wasn't surprised to hear that, hope he keeps Divilly and Sammon on board also. Wouldn't be too pushed about the rest of the u20 management.

What's the issue with Scan?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: grassHarrow on October 07, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
A small bit off topic here but player power in Kerry has won the day over management in the issue of a holiday .... so its off to Thailand with the lot of them. Just back in time for the DUB5
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on October 07, 2019, 03:35:07 PM
Quote from: grassHarrow on October 07, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
A small bit off topic here but player power in Kerry has won the day over management in the issue of a holiday .... so its off to Thailand with the lot of them. Just back in time for the DUB5

Hopefully this county going to Thailand goes a bit smoother than the last one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: grassHarrow on October 07, 2019, 08:15:46 PM
Martin Horgan on the ticket with Liam Kerins for the Galway Football job.  Two more Kerry men spreading the Gospel.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on October 07, 2019, 08:35:16 PM
Galway interviews on tonight, 2 horse race between PJ and Liam Kearns, Matt Duggan dropped out earlier today.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 07, 2019, 08:46:02 PM
John Sugrue gets Kerry U20 role.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on October 08, 2019, 10:52:28 AM
Kerry man living Kerry managing Laois Seniors and a Kerry man living in Laois managing Kerry u20's .... Joined up thinking!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 08, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: badball on October 08, 2019, 10:52:28 AM
Kerry man living Kerry managing Laois Seniors and a Kerry man living in Laois managing Kerry u20's .... Joined up thinking!

and swapped management roles for 2020
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 08, 2019, 09:33:33 PM
From Galway Bay FM


Padraic Joyce and Liam Kearns, the two candidates left to replace Kevin Walsh as Galway football manager, will be interviewed again on Thursday night by the same six-man committee who carried out the initial interviews last night.
One of the main aspects of the second interview is for both candidates to disclose their finalised backroom teams, A recommendation will then be made by the six man committee and the successful candidate will go before a meeting of the Galway county board on October 18th for ratification.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on October 09, 2019, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 08, 2019, 12:32:29 PM
Quote from: badball on October 08, 2019, 10:52:28 AM
Kerry man living Kerry managing Laois Seniors and a Kerry man living in Laois managing Kerry u20's .... Joined up thinking!

and swapped management roles for 2020

If the GAA is any way serious about helping meet our carbon emission target, climate control and burning less fossil fuels they must step in a put a stop to this.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on October 09, 2019, 08:50:01 AM
More blood letting in Kerry ... Maurice Fitz, Physio, Nutritionist and a S&C.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: grassHarrow on October 10, 2019, 08:19:52 PM
Liam Kerins has the Galway job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 10, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: grassHarrow on October 10, 2019, 08:19:52 PM
Liam Kerins has the Galway job.

That would be a major surprise if true. Only in that he's up against a 100% Galway legend who has assembled a fairly impressive backroom team (on paper anyway) if you believe the rumours. I know both of them were having their final interviews this evening alright.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 10, 2019, 11:30:39 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on October 10, 2019, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: grassHarrow on October 10, 2019, 08:19:52 PM
Liam Kerins has the Galway job.

That would be a major surprise if true. Only in that he's up against a 100% Galway legend who has assembled a fairly impressive backroom team (on paper anyway) if you believe the rumours. I know both of them were having their final interviews this evening alright.
They'd hardly ratify Kearns over Joyce?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 10, 2019, 11:40:35 PM
Kearns done a good Job in Tipparary. He probaly stayed on too long, relegated to Division 3 this year. In 2017 they were nearly promoted to Division 1. Made All Ireland Semi in 16..
Done good work with Limerick when they had the likes of John Galvin playing .

He has the experience of senior level, whereas Joyce was joint manager of the U20s.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: galwayman on October 11, 2019, 03:38:45 PM
That's fake news lads. It's Pjs gig
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2019, 04:16:13 PM
John Fogarty
@JohnFogartyIrl
·
7m
Hearing Pádraic Joyce has been offered Galway senior football manager's position. #GAA
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 11, 2019, 04:50:42 PM
It's Joyce's surely. Interesting for sure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on October 11, 2019, 06:25:34 PM
Statement out from the county board, PJ's job with John Divilly, John Concannon and Micheál Ó Domhnaill as selectors.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 11, 2019, 06:26:36 PM
Following interviews for the position of Galway Senior Football Manager, the interview Committee will be recommending Padraic Joyce and his selectors John Divilly, Michéal Ó Domhnaill and John Concannon for ratification to the Management and County Committee at their meeting next week.

Galway G.A.A would like to thank Liam Kearns for his interest in the fortunes of Galway and wish him well in the future.



Seamus Ó Gráda,

Secretary, Galway G.A.A.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on October 12, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
Best of luck to Joyce and all the backroom team. Clearly given everything that's emerged it will be difficult circumstances for them in terms of the support structures and budget coming from the County board but hopefully they will be successful.
No matter how great a player he was, the Galway support is fickle and won't be long turning on him if the results aren't good and Joyce has no real track record as a manager. Regardless of who is in charge the payers badly need to step up next year after a truly dreadful 2019 championship, it will be interesting to see what way the team sets up and who the personnel will be, there could be major changes afoot.
They are blessed with the draw for Connacht with Mayo and Roscommon on the other side, Division One will be challenging in 2020 but they get 4 home matches next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: badball on October 15, 2019, 12:40:57 PM
Great to See former kerry footballers kieran o leary And Fionn Fitz and B Guiney going in with John sugrue, nice set up best of luck
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 16, 2019, 01:21:07 PM
Paul Taylor has added Nigel Dineen to his Sligo management team, Dinnen led Roscommon to the U21 All Ireland finals in 2012 and 2014.  London the last football team to appoint their manager and they have gone with a first ever London born manager in Michael Maher.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 16, 2019, 06:15:58 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 16, 2019, 01:21:07 PM
Paul Taylor has added Nigel Dineen to his Sligo management team, Dinnen led Roscommon to the U21 All Ireland finals in 2012 and 2014.  London the last football team to appoint their manager and they have gone with a first ever London born manager in Michael Maher.
Delighted to have Dineen on board and retained Joe Keane as selector/coach with the addition of S&C Sean Boyle.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 18, 2019, 10:50:05 PM
Padraic Joyce unanimously ratified by all Galway County Committee delegates at tonights meeting.

Senior Football Manager for a 3 year term with a review after 2 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That’s our aim – that’s what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I’m not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years’ time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That’s when the final is on, that’s when we are training for. And if we don’t do that, I would see it as disappointment."

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 05, 2019, 12:59:00 PM
Back in the real world-Leitrim hurling manager has packed it in.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on November 05, 2019, 03:33:40 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


That's the sort of thing I expect division 1 managers to say to their side in pre season meetings but not to the media. I have a feeling those words could come back to bite. Imagine Jim Gavin coming out with that!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 06, 2019, 09:55:34 PM
Liam Kearns said to be going to Clann na nGael?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on November 07, 2019, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2019, 09:55:34 PM
Liam Kearns said to be going to Clann na nGael?

Yup thats true, Was approached when he didnt get the Galway job and it became known current management were stepping down. Nothing confirmed yet but he did attend the last two league games the club played in recent weeks.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 11, 2019, 11:56:07 PM
I see the Poacher has departed from Carlow.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.

Wasn't a spur of the moment comment from Joyce either as he's repeated a few times that Galway are training for next year's All Ireland final.

Walsh led Galway to All Ireland semi final so maybe he thinks he can go at least one better in his first year?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 12, 2019, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.

Wasn't a spur of the moment comment from Joyce either as he's repeated a few times that Galway are training for next year's All Ireland final.

Walsh led Galway to All Ireland semi final so maybe he thinks he can go at least one better in his first year?

Hope they are training for the final and forget about the rest of us in the meantime so somebody can take them out! :D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on November 12, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.

Wasn't a spur of the moment comment from Joyce either as he's repeated a few times that Galway are training for next year's All Ireland final.

Walsh led Galway to All Ireland semi final so maybe he thinks he can go at least one better in his first year?
Well why not?
Galway's 2019 form should be totally ignored. In reality, there's only two teams out there that are currently definitely better than them, Dublin and Kerry.
Yet they beat Kerry in 2018, and Kerry improved to draw with the Dubs in the AI final this year.
With everyone back fit and one or two new lads emerging, there's no reason why they shouldn't aim for the All Ireland final.

Yet, admitting ambition is bad thing in the GAA! You'll have plenty of keyboard warrior numpties who have already saved those comments, ready to dish them out each and every time Galway lose a match!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: Hound on November 12, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.

Wasn't a spur of the moment comment from Joyce either as he's repeated a few times that Galway are training for next year's All Ireland final.

Walsh led Galway to All Ireland semi final so maybe he thinks he can go at least one better in his first year?
Well why not?
Galway's 2019 form should be totally ignored. In reality, there's only two teams out there that are currently definitely better than them, Dublin and Kerry.
Yet they beat Kerry in 2018, and Kerry improved to draw with the Dubs in the AI final this year.
With everyone back fit and one or two new lads emerging, there's no reason why they shouldn't aim for the All Ireland final.

Yet, admitting ambition is bad thing in the GAA! You'll have plenty of keyboard warrior numpties who have already saved those comments, ready to dish them out each and every time Galway lose a match!

Why ignore 2019 form? Hard to know how Galway will fare under Joyce, they are too inconistent to say only two teams are better than them in my view.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on November 12, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
Joyce should have been saying, they aim to regain  the Connacht title and get out of the Super 8. They didn't  even each the Super 8s this year, so why over look it..  The Bullish talk is soon forgotten after a few bad results.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 14, 2019, 12:50:28 AM
Castlebar Mitchels have announced the appointment of Alan Flynn as their Senior team manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2019, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 14, 2019, 12:50:28 AM
Castlebar Mitchels have announced the appointment of Alan Flynn as their Senior team manager.

Was he involved with Roscommon a few years ago?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on November 15, 2019, 09:20:40 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2019, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 14, 2019, 12:50:28 AM
Castlebar Mitchels have announced the appointment of Alan Flynn as their Senior team manager.

Was he involved with Roscommon a few years ago?

He was coach with Clare for a year before went to Kildare
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: MayoBuck on November 15, 2019, 10:04:47 AM
Daniel Forde has left the Mayo backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: manfromdelmonte on November 15, 2019, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 12, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.

Wasn't a spur of the moment comment from Joyce either as he's repeated a few times that Galway are training for next year's All Ireland final.

Walsh led Galway to All Ireland semi final so maybe he thinks he can go at least one better in his first year?
Well why not?
Galway's 2019 form should be totally ignored. In reality, there's only two teams out there that are currently definitely better than them, Dublin and Kerry.
Yet they beat Kerry in 2018, and Kerry improved to draw with the Dubs in the AI final this year.
With everyone back fit and one or two new lads emerging, there's no reason why they shouldn't aim for the All Ireland final.
beaten twice by Roscommon in finals in 2017 and 2019
so the evidence suggests otherwise
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 15, 2019, 12:35:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 15, 2019, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 12, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 12, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
Quote from: ck on November 12, 2019, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 11:51:26 AM

Pádraic Joyce sounds confident in his first interview as Galway senior manager.

Quote
"A successful year one would be to start off winning the FBD league and then go on and win the National league, and then the All-Ireland. That's our aim – that's what we are aiming for straight away,"

"It might sound far-fetched to a lot of people. I'm not saying we are going to win the All-Ireland in two or three years' time, we are training for the 30th of August next year. That's when the final is on, that's when we are training for. And if we don't do that, I would see it as disappointment."


The words of a VERY inexperienced manager! Silly comment which will haunt him.

Wasn't a spur of the moment comment from Joyce either as he's repeated a few times that Galway are training for next year's All Ireland final.

Walsh led Galway to All Ireland semi final so maybe he thinks he can go at least one better in his first year?
Well why not?
Galway's 2019 form should be totally ignored. In reality, there's only two teams out there that are currently definitely better than them, Dublin and Kerry.
Yet they beat Kerry in 2018, and Kerry improved to draw with the Dubs in the AI final this year.
With everyone back fit and one or two new lads emerging, there's no reason why they shouldn't aim for the All Ireland final.
beaten twice by Roscommon in finals in 2017 and 2019
so the evidence suggests otherwise

Roscommon beat Mayo this year as well. Didn't stop Mayo reaching an All-Ireland semi-final. Or Galway reaching a semi-final in 2018. Roscommon are a good side well capable of beating anyone on their day bar maybe Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 15, 2019, 01:15:30 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2019, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 14, 2019, 12:50:28 AM
Castlebar Mitchels have announced the appointment of Alan Flynn as their Senior team manager.

Was he involved with Roscommon a few years ago?

None that I know of. Leading Galway to the 2013 All Ireland at U21 level is what he's known mostly for. Was favourite to become Galway Senior manager before P Joyce threw his hat into the ring and he then decided to then pull out of the running
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: magpie seanie on November 15, 2019, 04:58:30 PM
Why is setting ambitious goals still seen as a no-no in the GAA? Have we not grown out of this "ara shure we'll turn up anyway" malarkey?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 15, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 15, 2019, 04:58:30 PM
Why is setting ambitious goals still seen as a no-no in the GAA? Have we not grown out of this "ara shure we'll turn up anyway" malarkey?
Malarkey like Jim Gavin talking up the likes of Louth and Wicklow before playing them and saying he  and his players aren't looking past that "challenge"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on November 18, 2019, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 15, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 15, 2019, 04:58:30 PM
Why is setting ambitious goals still seen as a no-no in the GAA? Have we not grown out of this "ara shure we'll turn up anyway" malarkey?
Malarkey like Jim Gavin talking up the likes of Louth and Wicklow before playing them and saying he  and his players aren't looking past that "challenge"
And Horan, Rochford, etc would say the very same before Mayo hammer Leitrim out the gate.

It is Conor McGregor type managers you want? Tell the opposition they're not fit to be on the same pitch? Or is this just another salty teared effort to have a go at Jim?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 18, 2019, 01:33:33 PM
Quote from: Hound on November 18, 2019, 12:53:31 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 15, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 15, 2019, 04:58:30 PM
Why is setting ambitious goals still seen as a no-no in the GAA? Have we not grown out of this "ara shure we'll turn up anyway" malarkey?
Malarkey like Jim Gavin talking up the likes of Louth and Wicklow before playing them and saying he  and his players aren't looking past that "challenge"
And Horan, Rochford, etc would say the very same before Mayo hammer Leitrim out the gate.

It is Conor McGregor type managers you want? Tell the opposition they're not fit to be on the same pitch? Or is this just another salty teared effort to have a go at Jim?

Nothing salty, just pointing out to Seanie that the GAA hasn't grown out of the malarkey stuff when even the best manager is at it

Conor McGregor is a over the top gimmick to attract attention and maybe Joyce is doing something simliar at a lower scale to attract bigger Galway support to games.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 22, 2019, 11:49:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 06, 2019, 09:55:34 PM
Liam Kearns said to be going to Clann na nGael?

He was appointed Clann na nGael manager tonight.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on December 03, 2019, 04:07:57 PM
I see poor oul  Banty will be needing some good "expenses"...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on December 03, 2019, 04:23:21 PM
Tip of the iceberg Banty small drop in the ocean how a Tax Dodger and he is not the only one can be in charge of County Team is unreal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 03, 2019, 04:53:49 PM
Liam McHale the new Athlone manager.

https://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/12/03/4183094-liam-mchale-appointed-as-new-athlone-gaa-club-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on December 03, 2019, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: skeog on December 03, 2019, 04:23:21 PM
how a Tax Dodger and he is not the only one can be in charge of County Team is unreal.

Probably the ideal choice.
Used to dealing with large amounts of undeclared cash from various unknown sources.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on December 03, 2019, 05:14:02 PM
lol
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: grassHarrow on December 03, 2019, 06:51:58 PM
Former Kerry team nutritionist and Listowel native Kevin Beasley has now joined the Donegal Management Team.
He was highly respected with the Kerry players during Eamon Fitzmaurice time in charge.
How did Peter Keane let this highly rated nutritionist leave Kerry to go North ?
Also Kerry Senior Team expenses went from 353,294 in 2018 to 534,883 in 2019 ... is it all the steak (well done) they are eating ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2019, 09:32:22 AM
Quote from: grassHarrow on December 03, 2019, 06:51:58 PM
Former Kerry team nutritionist and Listowel native Kevin Beasley has now joined the Donegal Management Team.
He was highly respected with the Kerry players during Eamon Fitzmaurice time in charge.
How did Peter Keane let this highly rated nutritionist leave Kerry to go North ?
Also Kerry Senior Team expenses went from 353,294 in 2018 to 534,883 in 2019 ... is it all the steak (well done) they are eating ?

That sounds insane...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on December 04, 2019, 09:51:20 AM
Has Dessie Farrell been rubber stamped to succeed Jim Gavin yet?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 04, 2019, 12:13:47 PM
Quote from: grassHarrow on December 03, 2019, 06:51:58 PM
Former Kerry team nutritionist and Listowel native Kevin Beasley has now joined the Donegal Management Team.
He was highly respected with the Kerry players during Eamon Fitzmaurice time in charge.
How did Peter Keane let this highly rated nutritionist leave Kerry to go North ?
Also Kerry Senior Team expenses went from 353,294 in 2018 to 534,883 in 2019 ... is it all the steak (well done) they are eating ?

The price of playing in two All Ireland finals compared to a quarter final exit?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on December 04, 2019, 01:17:36 PM
They had 3 extra games at the end of the season this year right enough and I'm sure no money was spared over those 4 weeks.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on December 13, 2019, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2019, 09:51:20 AM
Has Dessie Farrell been rubber stamped to succeed Jim Gavin yet?

Why did it take so long?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 13, 2019, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 13, 2019, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on December 04, 2019, 09:51:20 AM
Has Dessie Farrell been rubber stamped to succeed Jim Gavin yet?

Why did it take so long?

Didn't take long he was appointed 12 days after Gavin stepped down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on December 17, 2019, 05:08:26 PM
Galvin not having a good start with Wexford it seems. He dropped a few experienced players and a few others left in soliditary. Mattie Forde left as selector after only being appointed 2 months ago due to work commitments.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 06, 2020, 10:42:06 PM
Turlough O'Brien has stepped down as Carlow senior football manager with immediate effect.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 15, 2020, 07:10:52 PM
Paul Galvin stepped down as Wexford manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearsiuil on September 16, 2020, 08:28:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 15, 2020, 07:10:52 PM
Paul Galvin stepped down as Wexford manager.
Day after inter county training resumed.....hmm.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rosnarun on September 17, 2020, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on September 16, 2020, 08:28:56 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 15, 2020, 07:10:52 PM
Paul Galvin stepped down as Wexford manager.
Day after inter county training resumed.....hmm.

at a guess he was informed he was now doing it on a voluntary basisdue to lack of Funds
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 10, 2020, 06:54:20 PM
Louth, Antrim and Waterford have vacancies for football managers.
Laythrum re appoint Terry Hyand.
Anthony Cunningham's 2 year term ended last night. Hopefully the CB will give him 2 more years to get us back on track following Sunday's aberration.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gmac on November 11, 2020, 03:19:01 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 10, 2020, 06:54:20 PM
Louth, Antrim and Waterford have vacancies for football managers.
Laythrum re appoint Terry Hyand.
Anthony Cunningham's 2 year term ended last night. Hopefully the CB will give him 2 more years to get us back on track following Sunday's aberration.
let me have a chat with Tom about it
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orior on November 11, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
Antrim would be a good position for a new manager. Bucket loads of talent in the county and the only way is up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LCohen on November 11, 2020, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 11, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
Antrim would be a good position for a new manager. Bucket loads of talent in the county and the only way is up.

What is that based on? Not saying it's right or wrong. Genuine question
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 11, 2020, 06:34:49 PM
Whats this about McGuiness and Tyrone?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: southtyronegael on November 11, 2020, 06:44:24 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 11, 2020, 06:34:49 PM
Whats this about McGuiness and Tyrone?
is there vids of him leaving a meeting in garvaghy last night?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 11, 2020, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 11, 2020, 06:34:49 PM
Whats this about McGuiness and Tyrone?
Did Mickey Harte step aside?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2020, 07:56:58 PM
Twitter says denied one year extension? Could be rumour.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2020, 09:02:18 PM
Extension rejected. Mickey gone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orior on November 11, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: LCohen on November 11, 2020, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 11, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
Antrim would be a good position for a new manager. Bucket loads of talent in the county and the only way is up.

What is that based on? Not saying it's right or wrong. Genuine question

Good clubs teams that can hold their own in Ulster.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on November 12, 2020, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: Orior on November 11, 2020, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: LCohen on November 11, 2020, 02:15:13 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 11, 2020, 01:32:19 PM
Antrim would be a good position for a new manager. Bucket loads of talent in the county and the only way is up.

What is that based on? Not saying it's right or wrong. Genuine question

Good clubs teams that can hold their own in Ulster.

You almost had me there!!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 12, 2020, 02:24:32 PM
Sligo now have a vacancy as well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 12, 2020, 02:42:54 PM
Nigel Dineen in the running??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 12, 2020, 03:14:21 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 12, 2020, 02:24:32 PM
Sligo now have a vacancy as well.

Little bit surprised he got a 2nd year, reading between the lines of the statement it sounds like the Sligo county board was willing to give him a 3rd year which would leave plenty questioning the abitition of the Sligo county board.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: on the sideline on November 13, 2020, 09:35:13 PM
Tweet from the Irish News saying Harte has confirmed he's leaving his position as Tyrone manager in an interview with Brendan Crossan in this weekends paper.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 13, 2020, 09:39:06 PM
Bel Tel have it too

https://twitter.com/BelTel/status/1327363106398322688
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 13, 2020, 09:44:12 PM
And on RTÉ also. Big boots to fill.

Mickey Harte stands down as Tyrone manager after 18 years


Mickey Harte's 18-year spell as manager of the Tyrone senior football team is over, with the three-time All-Ireland winner confirming he has stood down.

Uncertainty surrounded the future of the longest-serving manager in Gaelic football this week after the county's Ulster SFC exit at hands of great rivals Donegal.


Having come to the end of a three-year term following his reappointment in 2017, Harte had little to say about his future following their early championship exit to Donegal recently. "I haven't considered anything about that just right now," he said.

Harte transformed Tyrone into one of the powerhouses of Gaelic football, leading them to their first All-Ireland title in 2003, followed by two more in 2005 and 2008
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on November 13, 2020, 09:47:47 PM
It would be the biggest job in Gaelic football.  No pressure to the selection committee.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: lenny on November 13, 2020, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: on the sideline on November 13, 2020, 09:35:13 PM
Tweet from the Irish News saying Harte has confirmed he's leaving his position as Tyrone manager in an interview with Brendan Crossan in this weekends paper.

That's trump, Harte and Dominic cummings all out. 3 autocratic dictators all gone in a short space of time. We're living in interesting times.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on November 13, 2020, 10:07:32 PM
Has Mickey announced that he's retiring from the county scene?

I think there's still enough life left in the old dog. In a heartbeat I'd say bye bye Banty hello Mickey
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 13, 2020, 11:24:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 13, 2020, 10:07:32 PM
Has Mickey announced that he's retiring from the county scene?

I think there's still enough life left in the old dog. In a heartbeat I'd say bye bye Banty hello Mickey

Should be bye bye Banty regardless, any decent upcoming club manager in Monaghan would be a better choice for 2021.

End of era for Tyrone, a few of the Tyrone posters on here wanted him gone years ago without realising he was getting the very best out of the current group of players, good luck to whoever follows him he'll need it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tonto1888 on November 13, 2020, 11:46:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 13, 2020, 11:24:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 13, 2020, 10:07:32 PM
Has Mickey announced that he's retiring from the county scene?

I think there's still enough life left in the old dog. In a heartbeat I'd say bye bye Banty hello Mickey

Should be bye bye Banty regardless, any decent upcoming club manager in Monaghan would be a better choice for 2021.

End of era for Tyrone, a few of the Tyrone posters on here wanted him gone years ago without realising he was getting the very best out of the current group of players, good luck to whoever follows him he'll need it.

Do you think he was getting the best out of them?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on November 14, 2020, 12:16:19 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 13, 2020, 09:44:12 PM
And on RTÉ also. Big boots to fill.

Mickey Harte stands down as Tyrone manager after 18 years


Mickey Harte's 18-year spell as manager of the Tyrone senior football team is over, with the three-time All-Ireland winner confirming he has stood down.

Uncertainty surrounded the future of the longest-serving manager in Gaelic football this week after the county's Ulster SFC exit at hands of great rivals Donegal.


Having come to the end of a three-year term following his reappointment in 2017, Harte had little to say about his future following their early championship exit to Donegal recently. "I haven't considered anything about that just right now," he said.

Harte transformed Tyrone into one of the powerhouses of Gaelic football, leading them to their first All-Ireland title in 2003, followed by two more in 2005 and 2008

Great manager, good luck to him in retirement
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on November 14, 2020, 12:21:05 AM
Remarkable career from Mickey. Wish him all the best.

They were never bad under his stewardship and at times they were the best. They were truly formidable in the 00's.

I didn't think he'd leave without an obvious successor ready to step in. Perhaps Tyrone folks know who that is but whoever does get in, speaking with experience of the post Boylan years in Meath, I hope that they are given time to develop a team and not hounded out at the first sign of failure.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 14, 2020, 12:23:00 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on November 13, 2020, 11:46:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 13, 2020, 11:24:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 13, 2020, 10:07:32 PM
Has Mickey announced that he's retiring from the county scene?

I think there's still enough life left in the old dog. In a heartbeat I'd say bye bye Banty hello Mickey

Should be bye bye Banty regardless, any decent upcoming club manager in Monaghan would be a better choice for 2021.

End of era for Tyrone, a few of the Tyrone posters on here wanted him gone years ago without realising he was getting the very best out of the current group of players, good luck to whoever follows him he'll need it.

Do you think he was getting the best out of them?

Yes. Led Tyrone to the business end of the championship (Semi final or final) in 5 of the last 7 years and in those years 6 of the 7 championship exits was against teams they expected to lose against. In the same timeframe Donegal with arguably a better panel of players only progressed past the last 8 stage once.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on November 14, 2020, 12:34:31 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 14, 2020, 12:16:19 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 13, 2020, 09:44:12 PM
And on RTÉ also. Big boots to fill.

Mickey Harte stands down as Tyrone manager after 18 years


Mickey Harte's 18-year spell as manager of the Tyrone senior football team is over, with the three-time All-Ireland winner confirming he has stood down.

Uncertainty surrounded the future of the longest-serving manager in Gaelic football this week after the county's Ulster SFC exit at hands of great rivals Donegal.


Having come to the end of a three-year term following his reappointment in 2017, Harte had little to say about his future following their early championship exit to Donegal recently. "I haven't considered anything about that just right now," he said.

Harte transformed Tyrone into one of the powerhouses of Gaelic football, leading them to their first All-Ireland title in 2003, followed by two more in 2005 and 2008

Great manager, good luck to him in retirement
retirement??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on November 14, 2020, 02:09:58 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 14, 2020, 12:34:31 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 14, 2020, 12:16:19 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 13, 2020, 09:44:12 PM
And on RTÉ also. Big boots to fill.

Mickey Harte stands down as Tyrone manager after 18 years


Mickey Harte's 18-year spell as manager of the Tyrone senior football team is over, with the three-time All-Ireland winner confirming he has stood down.

Uncertainty surrounded the future of the longest-serving manager in Gaelic football this week after the county's Ulster SFC exit at hands of great rivals Donegal.


Having come to the end of a three-year term following his reappointment in 2017, Harte had little to say about his future following their early championship exit to Donegal recently. "I haven't considered anything about that just right now," he said.

Harte transformed Tyrone into one of the powerhouses of Gaelic football, leading them to their first All-Ireland title in 2003, followed by two more in 2005 and 2008

Great manager, good luck to him in retirement
retirement??

I just assumed that it's retirement for him, I can't see him managing anyone else. You could be right though, maybe he'll go again elsewhere
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on November 15, 2020, 04:53:59 PM
If that was Paddy Tally's interview for the Tyrone job it didn't go particularly well!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on November 23, 2020, 08:28:12 PM
Micky Harte the new Louth Manager with Gavin Devlin as his assistant according to Rte
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 23, 2020, 08:44:39 PM
Jases that was quick :o
I suppose they can't but improve on this years dismal showings.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 23, 2020, 09:50:53 PM
Two year term for Anthony Cunningham was up with Roscommon and they gave him another two years tonight.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on November 23, 2020, 09:54:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 23, 2020, 09:50:53 PM
Two year term for Anthony Cunningham was up with Roscommon and they gave him another two years tonight.

That's good news, he has moved them forward.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: laoislad on November 24, 2020, 01:42:41 PM
Eddie Brennan gone from Laois sadly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 25, 2020, 01:31:42 PM
Tony McEntee and Eamonn O'Hara are the leading candidates for the Sligo senior football managerial position. Crossmolina native Joe Keane part of McEntee management while Mike Solan guided Mayo to the 2016 All-Ireland U21 title is believed to be on board with O'Hara.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on November 25, 2020, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 25, 2020, 01:31:42 PM
Tony McEntee and Eamonn O'Hara are the leading candidates for the Sligo senior football managerial position. Crossmolina native Joe Keane part of McEntee management while Mike Solan guided Mayo to the 2016 All-Ireland U21 title is believed to be on board with O'Hara.
Both are good prospects. My only concern is and I rate Keane highly is that we regressed under his coaching. It makes no sense but we did. Taylor had a strong back room team with Dineen in there too.

I believe a fresh approach is required. I find the O Hara/Solan team very exciting. What can Mayo posters say about Solan? McEntee would want to have some plan in place and have performed unreal in the interviews to out do O Hara.

It will be interesting as our current chairman is Tourlestrane man and obviously so is O Hara so it would be strange if it wasn't given to him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
Tony McEntee confirmed as the new Sligo manager.
Div 4 the place to be it seems
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on November 26, 2020, 08:10:21 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
Tony McEntee confirmed as the new Sligo manager.
Div 4 the place to be it seems

I hope my (third?) cousin does a cracking job and Sligo surpasses Louth.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 26, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
Tony McEntee confirmed as the new Sligo manager.
Div 4 the place to be it seems
Fermanaghs objective for 2021?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 26, 2020, 08:18:18 PM
Home town hero O'Hara loses out!! :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 26, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on November 25, 2020, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 25, 2020, 01:31:42 PM
Tony McEntee and Eamonn O’Hara are the leading candidates for the Sligo senior football managerial position. Crossmolina native Joe Keane part of McEntee management while Mike Solan guided Mayo to the 2016 All-Ireland U21 title is believed to be on board with O’Hara.
Both are good prospects. My only concern is and I rate Keane highly is that we regressed under his coaching. It makes no sense but we did. Taylor had a strong back room team with Dineen in there too.

I believe a fresh approach is required. I find the O Hara/Solan team very exciting. What can Mayo posters say about Solan? McEntee would want to have some plan in place and have performed unreal in the interviews to out do O Hara.

It will be interesting as our current chairman is Tourlestrane man and obviously so is O Hara so it would be strange if it wasn't given to him.

A good plan he had in place it seems.


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Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 26, 2020, 08:28:29 PM
Good appointment for us. Has a fair bit of work to do after the last few years of sharp decline but has the pedigree to point us in the right direction. Getting everyone on board is important but getting the S&C right will be vital, it always struck me that our teams looked smaller and lighter than most opponents and it has certainly been a factor in our fall, it was an area we certainly didn't lack in when we matched Tony and co. on both days in 2002.

I'd imagine O'Hara isn't too impressed in being passed over.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 09:36:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 26, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
Tony McEntee confirmed as the new Sligo manager.
Div 4 the place to be it seems
Fermanaghs objective for 2021?

Seems to be the plan and then we announce Jim Galvin
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: on the sideline on November 26, 2020, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 09:36:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 26, 2020, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 26, 2020, 08:04:47 PM
Tony McEntee confirmed as the new Sligo manager.
Div 4 the place to be it seems
Fermanaghs objective for 2021?

Seems to be the plan and then we announce Jim Galvin

Has Joe McMahon left Fermanagh to go into the Tyrone backroom team? If he has will Ricey be staying on or who will he bring in to replace McMahon?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 10:25:30 PM
I am disappointed with O Hara being overlooked. Leonard the chairman a Tourlestrane man overlooking O Hara doesn't add up. Questions need to be asked. He is one of our own. He would know more of the players and talent pool in Sligo than McEntee. He would get the Tourlestrane contingent more involved. O Hara is not perfect but has more advantages. He has won 5 in a row at club level which is unheard of.

There has to be more to this to why O Hara didn't get it. Leonard will try to waffle his way out of telling the truth.

No experience as an Intercounty Manager means as this is his first job as Intercounty Manager none of us can predict with any great certainty if it will work out. Again we are taking a chance although I would be more confident of this one working out than previous.

The question remains of how we managed to regress with Joe Keane still involved. It remains unanswered so the continuity there is a concern. Will McEntee turn the tide more than Taylor, Dineen and John Mac. Who will be his other selector.

However that being said - I am happy with this appointment to a point. Oisin McConvilles article on McEntee talks of a very astute, honest, direct straight talker and an organized, and data driven approach with him.

He was very close to getting the Monaghan job in 2019 and was offered the Down Job in 2014 but declined. Managed Cross to 2 All Irelands in 2011 and 2012. Obviously selector and coach with Mayo under Rochford for 3 years.

3 Year plan is a lot but to build anything worthwhile you need time. I am surprised he went for us but I'd say Keane was in his ear as they worked together before.

The main reason I like this Appointment is Tony's character is exactly what is needed and his knowledge of setups and the game. As a player, he always made the right decisions on the ball. His shot selection was second to none.

Welcome to Sligo Tony and best of luck. Promotion from Div 4 to 2 and a Connacht senior Title would be lovely within 3 years.





Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on November 26, 2020, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 10:25:30 PM


The main reason I like this Appointment is Tony's character is exactly what is needed and his knowledge of setups and the game. As a player, he always made the right decisions on the ball. His shot selection was second to none.


Think you might be getting Tony mixed up with John. Tony was a bit of a work horse whereas John was the playmaker with a fantastic left foot.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 26, 2020, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 10:25:30 PM


The main reason I like this Appointment is Tony's character is exactly what is needed and his knowledge of setups and the game. As a player, he always made the right decisions on the ball. His shot selection was second to none.


Think you might be getting Tony mixed up with John. Tony was a bit of a work horse whereas John was the playmaker with a fantastic left foot.
Come to think of it, you are right, apologies, it's John I remember from 20 years ago, thank you. They are twins is my only excuse.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mikhailov on November 26, 2020, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 26, 2020, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 10:25:30 PM


The main reason I like this Appointment is Tony's character is exactly what is needed and his knowledge of setups and the game. As a player, he always made the right decisions on the ball. His shot selection was second to none.


Think you might be getting Tony mixed up with John. Tony was a bit of a work horse whereas John was the playmaker with a fantastic left foot.

Angelo, you must have been some player for Tyrone if you describe Tony Mac as a work horse.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 27, 2020, 07:43:28 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on November 26, 2020, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 26, 2020, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 10:25:30 PM


The main reason I like this Appointment is Tony's character is exactly what is needed and his knowledge of setups and the game. As a player, he always made the right decisions on the ball. His shot selection was second to none.


Think you might be getting Tony mixed up with John. Tony was a bit of a work horse whereas John was the playmaker with a fantastic left foot.

Angelo, you must have been some player for Tyrone if you describe Tony Mac as a work horse.

For anyone to say Tony was a work horse shows their lack of knowledge of what a good footballer is. Tony was blessed/cursed with the ability to have the skills to play in every position and he did play everywhere. An uncanny reading of the game, could spray passes as well as John but rarely did as he simply gave it to John. His cross field switch balls were a dream as they landed just in the sweet spot, close enough to get to, far enough away from the defender. He was a real Rolls Royce of a player.

If the Sligo lads buy into what he is saying he will get them moving. If they commit to work hard and listen he will get them promoted. If they leave their egos at the door they will really develop. If O Hara keeps his mouth shut on the Sunday Game and lets him have his chance Tony will develop Sligo well.

So long as he stops Louth getting promoted under Harte I'll be a happy man ;) ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on November 27, 2020, 07:58:20 AM
To be fair to O'Hara I would blame Des Cahill for goading him into that outburst. He really showed himself up with that one IMO.

Anyway that's a good appointment. There's always good footballers in Sligo so be interesting to see what he does. If he gets them promoted from division 4 all I hope is it's not at the expense of Antrim :D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 11:00:30 AM
Players moving against Peter Keane in Kerry?

Poor form if so.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on November 26, 2020, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 26, 2020, 10:44:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on November 26, 2020, 10:25:30 PM


The main reason I like this Appointment is Tony's character is exactly what is needed and his knowledge of setups and the game. As a player, he always made the right decisions on the ball. His shot selection was second to none.


Think you might be getting Tony mixed up with John. Tony was a bit of a work horse whereas John was the playmaker with a fantastic left foot.

Angelo, you must have been some player for Tyrone if you describe Tony Mac as a work horse.

That's the role he played for Armagh, he was that third midfielder who got on a lot of breaking ball and kept things simple and was generally in and out of the team. He was a good player at what he did but John McEntee was certainly the more eye catching of the two and was a regular fixture at 11 where he was Armagh's chief playmaker.

He would have been similar to what Collie Holmes and Kevin Hughes were to Tyrone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 27, 2020, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 11:00:30 AM
Players moving against Peter Keane in Kerry?

Poor form if so.

A true story or made up rumour on whatsapp?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 27, 2020, 04:34:23 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 27, 2020, 11:00:30 AM
Players moving against Peter Keane in Kerry?

Poor form if so.

A true story or made up rumour on whatsapp?

That's the rumour circulating whether there is much to it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on November 27, 2020, 11:27:46 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40091702.html?type=amp#click=https://t.co/4jYshm84zT

Doesn't sound great!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on November 29, 2020, 08:56:33 PM
Joe McMahon away to join the Tyrone backroom team .
Leaves his position as Fermanagh assistant manager .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 29, 2020, 11:22:30 PM
I've just received a WhatsApp from a former colleague from Kerry. He stressed that he was only passing on a rumour but he also said he had good reason to believe what he had heard.
He told me that had been a crisis meeting of the Kerry GAA panel and the players had voted by 26-11 to get rid of Peter Keane. It seems he has lost control of the dressing room since he got rid of Donie Buckley.
Seems Keane retains the confidence of the county chairman so things could get messy before the matter is resolved.
However, my friend feels that Keane will stand down before Christmas.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on November 30, 2020, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on November 29, 2020, 11:22:30 PM
I've just received a WhatsApp from a former colleague from Kerry. He stressed that he was only passing on a rumour but he also said he had good reason to believe what he had heard.
He told me that had been a crisis meeting of the Kerry GAA panel and the players had voted by 26-11 to get rid of Peter Keane. It seems he has lost control of the dressing room since he got rid of Donie Buckley.
Seems Keane retains the confidence of the county chairman so things could get messy before the matter is resolved.
However, my friend feels that Keane will stand down before Christmas.

So Keane is to be the fall guy for their own display against Cork. I felt that Kerry were much too cautious and defensive in that particular match but it wasn't a sacking offence. Within 2 years he took them within a hairs breath of an All Ireland title against arguably the greatest gaelic football side ever and won a National League title. In Armagh we have a manager who is going into the 7th year of his contract having not won anything. Surely one bad performance shouldn't prevent him from seeing out the final year of his contract.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2020, 01:56:07 PM
I don't think he deserved the road but he set them up really badly against Cork. Set out with half backs in the half forward line. There is some stuff doing the rounds about some part of his backroom team who left earlier in the year who people weren't happy about leaving too.

Cork getting beat by Tipp afterwards too probably didn't go down well particularly as they were so poor too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 30, 2020, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 30, 2020, 01:56:07 PM
I don't think he deserved the road but he set them up really badly against Cork. Set out with half backs in the half forward line. There is some stuff doing the rounds about some part of his backroom team who left earlier in the year who people weren't happy about leaving too.

Cork getting beat by Tipp afterwards too probably didn't go down well particularly as they were so poor too.
Again, while I personally think my source is trustworthy, I'll emphasise that I'm just taking his word that there are problems in the Kerry camp
.He also said that Donie Buckley was one of those who left and it seems that Moran and Geaney are the ringleaders of the push against Keane.
I didn't see the game or I wasn't bothered enough to read about it either but I was told that Geaney had been dropped for disciplinary reasons and that  Moran ignored instructions not to attempt scoring from far out the field and that he (Moran) completely ignored what Keaner said.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on November 30, 2020, 02:29:30 PM
Yeah Buckley was the name and I was wondering on Geaney. It's been doing the rounds on twitter a lot over the last few days that there's unrest and player meetings etc. Hadn't heard any outcome until this thread but it seemed clear there was unrest at least.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2020, 02:33:49 PM
Peter Keane quizzed on Kerry management set-up

Kerry manager Peter Keane is under pressure to shake up his management and backroom team ahead of the 2021 season.

Discussions between the County Board and Kingdom boss Keane are expected to continue in the run up to Christmas as the fallout from the dramatic Munster SFC semi-final loss to Cork at Páirc Uí Chaoimh continues.

Initial meetings have already taken place between management and members of the Board's executive where the composition of Keane's backroom team was discussed. The manager has also met separately with his backroom team.

Idle speculation of squad unrest and ultimatums from players is baseless, but they have met as a group since the loss in Cork and there is dissatisfaction about the coaching set-up since the poorly explained departure of Donie Buckley last March.

With the announcement of Buckley's exit coming just before the country went into lockdown, there was little public discourse on the behind-the-scenes tensions that led to his departure, but his coaching work met with universal approval from the squad. Players believe the failure to replace Buckley and his skillset compromised their readiness for Championship this autumn.

Prior to the Cork game, Peter Keane was asked about the Buckley departure and said: "I suppose it is water under the bridge. What I can say is that we parted company, I don't get into individual discussions I have with either members of the management or the players. You have privileged discussions going on all of the time and that would be a breach of them. That is where it is."

Keane is heading into the final year of his three-year term at a time when Kerry are also on the lookout for a new Under-20 manager following the departure of John Sugrue. All-Ireland winners such as Declan O'Sullivan, Kieran Donaghy, Marc Ó Sé, Seamus Moynihan, Tomas Ó Sé, and senior selector Tommy Griffin have all been touted as possible candidates for the role. However, the Board executive may want to look at the role as part of a broader management pathway strategy in the Kingdom.

As things stand, there are precious few candidates ready to step up to the senior manager position without reverting to former All-Ireland winning bosses. Current selector Maurice Fitzgerald is probably the standout candidate in that regard.

County Board chairman Tim Murphy told a Board meeting this week that a full review of the football performance this year was underway. John Mitchels club delegate Pat McAuliffe told the meeting: "I am glad to hear (the chairman) say there will be a review of all the workings of the senior football team management committee upcoming."

He went on: "I think that is important in view of what happened against Cork. I know we lost but the way we set up has to be looked at. It does not bode well for some of the young forwards we have in the county when we had two defensive players in the half-forward line and the best target player we have (Tommy Walsh) in the county was brought on as a corner back in the last few minutes. Things like that have to be reviewed and looked at. We can't keep making the same mistakes."

The chairman commented: "I will certainly bring to management the points you are making."
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on November 30, 2020, 03:12:49 PM
I wonder will he be getting 20 questions, like Tom Ryan
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 01, 2020, 09:29:40 PM
Padraic Davis has been reappointed Longford senior football manager for another two years
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on December 14, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Donaghy joining the Armagh backroom team. He always sounds knowledgeable on the radio so it'll be interesting to see how he gets on. Was he with the Galway hurlers for a season recently?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Taylor on December 14, 2020, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 14, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Donaghy joining the Armagh backroom team. He always sounds knowledgeable on the radio so it'll be interesting to see how he gets on. Was he with the Galway hurlers for a season recently?

Donaghy?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on December 14, 2020, 12:10:45 PM
Quote from: Taylor on December 14, 2020, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 14, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Donaghy joining the Armagh backroom team. He always sounds knowledgeable on the radio so it'll be interesting to see how he gets on. Was he with the Galway hurlers for a season recently?

Donaghy?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1214/1184320-donaghy-set-for-role-with-armagh-in-2021/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Taylor on December 14, 2020, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 14, 2020, 12:10:45 PM
Quote from: Taylor on December 14, 2020, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 14, 2020, 11:59:12 AM
Donaghy joining the Armagh backroom team. He always sounds knowledgeable on the radio so it'll be interesting to see how he gets on. Was he with the Galway hurlers for a season recently?

Donaghy?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1214/1184320-donaghy-set-for-role-with-armagh-in-2021/

Strangest appointment so far for 2021
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on December 14, 2020, 12:22:43 PM
Armagh to Kerry must be a good 4/5 hr trek?

Some expense there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on December 14, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 14, 2020, 12:22:43 PM
Armagh to Kerry must be a good 4/5 hr trek?

Some expense there.

The managerial gravy train appears to be stronger than ever with the number of high profile appointments in recent weeks.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 14, 2020, 02:46:05 PM
Paul Durcan joins Tony McEntee's Sligo backroom team as goalkeeping coach
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Seaney on December 14, 2020, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 14, 2020, 12:22:43 PM
Armagh to Kerry must be a good 4/5 hr trek?

Some expense there.

Maybe he's bringing a keeper and a few backs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: reillycavan on December 14, 2020, 06:09:36 PM
Quote from: Seaney on December 14, 2020, 02:55:11 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 14, 2020, 12:22:43 PM
Armagh to Kerry must be a good 4/5 hr trek?

Some expense there.

Maybe he's bringing a keeper and a few backs.

A bookkeeper? 😂😂😂
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on December 22, 2020, 10:00:19 PM
There is confirmed news that Donie Buckley will be Monaghan's new head coach. Possibly he and Kieran can share the costs of a car journey and the driving duties,
or both can do a deal with and avail of Michael Healy-Rae's charitable bus transport service to the North.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on December 22, 2020, 10:17:21 PM
Buckley lives in Clare it was said. A good journey nonetheless. Donaghy based in Dublin a couple of days a week with his work, doubtful he'd have took the role with Armagh if commuting from Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on December 22, 2020, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 22, 2020, 10:17:21 PM
Buckley lives in Clare it was said. A good journey nonetheless. Donaghy based in Dublin a couple of days a week with his work, doubtful he'd have took the role with Armagh if commuting from Kerry.

Buckley lives in Ennis.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 22, 2020, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 22, 2020, 10:00:19 PM
There is confirmed news that Donie Buckley will be Monaghan's new head coach. Possibly he and Kieran can share the costs of a car journey and the driving duties,
or both can do a deal with and avail of Michael Healy-Rae's charitable bus transport service to the North.

Buckley a good appointment for Monaghan, should somewhat make up for the deficiencies of Banty.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on December 22, 2020, 11:09:42 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 22, 2020, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 22, 2020, 10:17:21 PM
Buckley lives in Clare it was said. A good journey nonetheless. Donaghy based in Dublin a couple of days a week with his work, doubtful he'd have took the role with Armagh if commuting from Kerry.

Buckley lives in Ennis.
He must love driving

Ennis to any part of Monaghan is quite the journey

The Athlone-Cavan road is not one I would want to be travelling on often
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: macdanger2 on December 22, 2020, 11:46:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 22, 2020, 10:00:19 PM
There is confirmed news that Donie Buckley will be Monaghan's new head coach. Possibly he and Kieran can share the costs of a car journey and the driving duties,
or both can do a deal with and avail of Michael Healy-Rae's charitable bus transport service to the North.

Great appointment for Monaghan
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on December 23, 2020, 12:31:41 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 22, 2020, 11:46:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 22, 2020, 10:00:19 PM
There is confirmed news that Donie Buckley will be Monaghan's new head coach. Possibly he and Kieran can share the costs of a car journey and the driving duties,
or both can do a deal with and avail of Michael Healy-Rae's charitable bus transport service to the North.

Great appointment for Monaghan
That's good to hear.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 09:10:59 AM
That's where the Dublin argument fails, Monaghan forking out almost 100k for 2 people who will look after their seniors for a year or 2 and nothing else. Dublin have the foresight to develop their own people and employ full time workers as they are Likely to be cheaper than bringing someone from other side of country for a couple of sessions per week!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on December 23, 2020, 10:45:36 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 22, 2020, 10:00:19 PM
There is confirmed news that Donie Buckley will be Monaghan's new head coach. Possibly he and Kieran can share the costs of a car journey and the driving duties,
or both can do a deal with and avail of Michael Healy-Rae's charitable bus transport service to the North.

Looks like Johnny Davis will replace Peter Donnelly for the second successive year in a S&C role.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2020, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 09:10:59 AM
That's where the Dublin argument fails, Monaghan forking out almost 100k for 2 people who will look after their seniors for a year or 2 and nothing else. Dublin have the foresight to develop their own people and employ full time workers as they are Likely to be cheaper than bringing someone from other side of country for a couple of sessions per week!

I agree, big money being spent on short term 'contracts'.

How long will he be there, especially with the travel? Maybe the short season will help.

What money would be involved? Would it not be beeter to emply a couple of coaches in schools?

Would that not be a better long term option?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on December 23, 2020, 11:23:50 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 09:10:59 AM
That's where the Dublin argument fails, Monaghan forking out almost 100k for 2 people who will look after their seniors for a year or 2 and nothing else. Dublin have the foresight to develop their own people and employ full time workers as they are Likely to be cheaper than bringing someone from other side of country for a couple of sessions per week!

How much do Dublin fork out on their mammoth backroom team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on December 23, 2020, 11:50:43 AM
Quote from: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 09:10:59 AM
That's where the Dublin argument fails, Monaghan forking out almost 100k for 2 people who will look after their seniors for a year or 2 and nothing else. Dublin have the foresight to develop their own people and employ full time workers as they are Likely to be cheaper than bringing someone from other side of country for a couple of sessions per week!
Dublin's major advantage is to have strength and depth of quality all over the county.
All well and good to have a good coaching for the Monaghan senior squad which has about  12 or 13 decent or better standard players, compared to Dublin who can afford to shed some of the most talented football players in the country without losing a step because they have a hundred or so  other class players they can bring into the senior squad set up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
Dublin maybe paid Cullen 50 grand but he runs the whole show. Johnny D was apparently on that in Tyrone to look after the seniors only and now Same in Monaghan. That's why it's using the money smartly that makes the difference
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on December 23, 2020, 02:13:51 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
Dublin maybe paid Cullen 50 grand but he runs the whole show. Johnny D was apparently on that in Tyrone to look after the seniors only and now Same in Monaghan. That's why it's using the money smartly that makes the difference

I doubt Cullen left Leinster rugby for 50 grand.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on December 23, 2020, 05:40:50 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 23, 2020, 02:13:51 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on December 23, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
Dublin maybe paid Cullen 50 grand but he runs the whole show. Johnny D was apparently on that in Tyrone to look after the seniors only and now Same in Monaghan. That's why it's using the money smartly that makes the difference

I doubt Cullen left Leinster rugby for 50 grand.

Not a hope.

Donnelly had a full time role with Tyrone working in a similar capacity to Cullen with Dublin. Tyrone couldn't compete with what Ulster were offering, in fact I think Donnelly had walked temporarily at one point with Tyrone due to pay disputes.

I'd say Leinster rugby pay a lot better than Ulster rugby, they have a bigger budget. And yet Dublin are able to snare Cullen away from Leinster rugby.

€€€€€€€
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on December 23, 2020, 05:55:21 PM
The Cavan S/C coach Andre Quinn was with London Irish before joining Cavan last year. He's employed full time to look after development Squads and Senior team

A few counties have full time S/C coaches
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: reillycavan on December 30, 2020, 09:44:43 PM
Ronan McCarthy staying on with Cork.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Angelo on December 31, 2020, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 23, 2020, 05:55:21 PM
The Cavan S/C coach Andre Quinn was with London Irish before joining Cavan last year. He's employed full time to look after development Squads and Senior team

A few counties have full time S/C coaches

Cavan had Peter Donnelly in that role before too.

I don't know a lot about rugby but I'd imagine London Irish have nowhere near the budget of Leinster rugby. Quinn is also a Down native I have found so it's likely he would liked to have relocated closer to home and enjoy a much less demanding cost of living, so it's quite possible he was happy to forego a fair chunk of his salary too.

None of these circumstances were in place when Dublin enticed Cullen over to them. Both jobs were Dublin based so he had no reason to forego a salary and it's worth noting that Leinster are one of the biggest rugby teams in Europe so it's surprising how Dublin can entice a guy to swap a similar role with a professional set up. Must be serious €€€€€ on offer from Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2020, 05:57:16 PM
Hardly that surprising when a global brand like AIG sponsor Dublin. Cullen was probaly eager to get involved with Dublin given that he'd an ex player.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 31, 2020, 06:50:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 31, 2020, 05:57:16 PM
Hardly that surprising when a global brand like AIG sponsor Dublin. Cullen was probaly eager to get involved with Dublin given that he'd an ex player.

Ex captain.. it's a no brainier in fairness
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on December 31, 2020, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 31, 2020, 05:57:16 PM
Hardly that surprising when a global brand like AIG sponsor Dublin. Cullen was probaly eager to get involved with Dublin given that he'd an ex player.
I'm sure he's just another hard working Volunteer!

Happy 2021 to most GAAboarders. It has to be better than 2020 but will be a few more months before that happens.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 10, 2021, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on November 12, 2020, 02:24:32 PM
Sligo now have a vacancy as well.

Paul Taylor appointed manager of Kilmore, a Intermediate Roscommon club team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on January 13, 2021, 11:28:38 PM
Steven Poacher has joined the Roscommon Senior Football coaching team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on January 13, 2021, 11:30:52 PM
Good jases :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 13, 2021, 11:33:04 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 13, 2021, 11:28:38 PM
Steven Poacher has joined the Roscommon Senior Football coaching team.

The mouth from the South (Down).
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: reillycavan on January 13, 2021, 11:56:01 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 13, 2021, 11:28:38 PM
Steven Poacher has joined the Roscommon Senior Football coaching team.

All in the love of the game.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 14, 2021, 12:54:58 PM
I take it he's gone from Bryansford?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on January 14, 2021, 08:26:20 PM
Maurice Sheridan in the new Mayo U20 manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 05, 2021, 04:13:34 PM
Early this year but that time again
Padraig Davis Longford and Mike Quirke Laois fallen on their swords.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 08, 2021, 11:42:54 PM
Tally the latest.

https://www.the42.ie/paddy-tally-down-manager-5490185-Jul2021/?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2021, 04:51:24 PM
Hyland calls time on three-year spell as Leitrim boss. Against Mayo last Sunday he was probably the most disinterested manager I have ever seen for a match.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 30, 2021, 11:41:55 AM
Davy Fitzgerald has stepped down as Wexford senior hurling manager after five years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on August 03, 2021, 10:10:29 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1

Good news for other Ulster counties
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearsiuil on August 04, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1
7 seasons done with Armagh after 6 with Kildare I think. What has he achieved to get these long tenures?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mup on August 04, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1

I'd take him back to Kildare in a blink.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: APM on August 04, 2021, 11:33:22 AM
Quote from: mup on August 04, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1

I'd take him back to Kildare in a blink.

McGeeney has his knockers in Armagh and for good reason.  Progress has been slow with one step forward, two back at times.  It's been frustrating that it has taken so long to get this team as far as he has got them, and yet they still haven't managed to beat a Monaghan, Tyrone or Donegal in the Ulster Championship, and while they preserved their Division 1 status, they still couldn't put away Donegal when it mattered.

However, there is something in this team that he has assembled and you get the feeling that they are capable of making a breakthrough.  Whether that potential is more based on McGeeney's management abilities or on the performances of the O'Neill brothers in particular, is definitely up for debate.  Would another management team do any better given the lack of defensive quality - I'm not so sure and think we are better of with him in place.  He has got them moving now and hopefully progress will continue.

At the end of the day, Armagh supporters want silverware and that's all that count, nomoreso than in Kildare. 

Nonetheless, for all of the negative comments about McGeeney from outside the county, he has turned Armagh into a team that are fantastic to watch (most of the time).  Kildare likewise.  There might be a question-mark over whether McGeeney is good for Armagh and what he done for Kildare.  But there is no question that he sends his teams out to play positive football that is great to watch.  Cold comfort when you are knocked out of the Ulster Semi Final mind you. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armamike on August 05, 2021, 11:01:20 AM
This about sums up my thinking.  There's been no headway made in the Ulster championship during his time, which is disappointing. The manner of some of the defeats has been hard to take.   But for a long number of years now we just don't have enough strong enough players in defense. McGeeney or anyone else can't do much about that.  Like a lot of supporters I have issues with the rash decision making, poor tackling and poor discipline in our defending.  Can only assume the management have been working hard on this with the players, but the bottom line is that the ability isn't there.   The quality hasn't been coming though from underage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 05, 2021, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1
He's not cut out to be a football manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: APM on August 05, 2021, 01:17:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 05, 2021, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1
He's not cut out to be a football manager.

He has a lot attributes that make him suited to be a good manager.  However, if I would have one criticism, it would be that he doesn't seem to drop anyone from the panel.  I wonder if he is  too close to the players and isn't brutal enough in his discipline. 

You say he isn't cut out to be a manager.  You don't explain why.  On the basis of results, I would argue that 95% of the managers in intercounty GAA are not cut out to be a manager.  You might say in response that most of them aren't involved without a break for 14 years.  On that basis, however, you could equally argue that if he wasn't cut out for it, he would have lost the dressing room in Armagh and Kildare, and players would have seen through him - which hasn't happened. 

That brings me back to the original point.  I think the loyalty of the players explains the weakness. He isn't brutal enough. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 05, 2021, 01:49:56 PM
Westmeath Hurling manager steps down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2021, 02:30:46 PM
What is the skill set required at county management level now? It seems to me that the biggest one is the ability to convince the best players in the county to buy into the set up that is put in place. That requires the manager to be able to appoint the correct backroom team set up and to find the necessary resources to fund it. I think McGeeney has ticked all of those boxes although there may be question marks over some of the backroom staff that he has appointed in the past. He seems to appoint a lot of former colleagues who he knows and can trust. The appointment of Donaghy was the first time that he veered away from this policy and I hope that he can stay on for another season.

There have not been too many players who have opted out during McGeeney's time as manager that were obviously better than what is already in the squad. For a mid tier county trying to climb the ladder that is a good starting point and McGeeney has always commanded and retained the loyalty of most of the players that he has had.

The reality is that county management at the top level is as much about delegating responsibility and appointing the right people around you to do their jobs. Most of the top level county management teams will have anywhere up to 20 backroom staff members - managing those is often just as important.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 05, 2021, 02:48:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2021, 02:30:46 PM
The reality is that county management at the top level is as much about delegating responsibility and appointing the right people around you to do their jobs.

And herein lies the reason why some deem him as more of a failure than a success at Inter County level.
Appointments from the Class of 02 primarily - some of which you wouldn't let run a bath let alone a line in an intercounty setup.

To overcome a problem you sometimes have to take an outsider looking in with a critical eye - yes men who all want to get along with each other will talk around a problem but often fail in addressing the problem.

When Mc Corry came in he seemed to nudge things in a slightly different way - now with Donaghys appointment maybe the change is happening. For a while though that backroom team was tactically and analytically very poor.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 05, 2021, 06:28:37 PM
Quote from: mup on August 04, 2021, 10:54:50 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 03, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
McGeeney ratified for a 8th season with Armagh https://t.co/PFAnHXp9Wo?amp=1

I'd take him back to Kildare in a blink.

That's a bizarre statement
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 13, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Ricey has resigned
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 19, 2021, 07:19:52 PM
Wicklow Boss Davy Burke steps after Two Years.  Year one promoted to Div 3, year 2 Wicklow retained their Div 3 status.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: hoynevalley on August 19, 2021, 10:07:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 19, 2021, 07:19:52 PM
Wicklow Boss Davy Burke steps after Two Years.  Year one promoted to Div 3, year 2 Wicklow retained their Div 3 status.

Burke would be big addition to to lilywhites instead wasting money on jacko.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 20, 2021, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 13, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Ricey has resigned

Senior players told him to go apparently. No surprise after the way he set them up V Monaghan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 20, 2021, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: ck on August 20, 2021, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 13, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Ricey has resigned

Senior players told him to go apparently. No surprise after the way he set them up V Monaghan.

Eh What ?
Think you apparently have been misinformed
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 20, 2021, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: FermGael on August 20, 2021, 02:22:09 PM
Quote from: ck on August 20, 2021, 11:28:53 AM
Quote from: FermGael on August 13, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Ricey has resigned

Senior players told him to go apparently. No surprise after the way he set them up V Monaghan.

Eh What ?
Think you apparently have been misinformed

He was preparing for another season. Changed coaches etc then had a meeting with senior players who told them they weren't happy. He resigned the next morning.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on August 21, 2021, 08:27:50 AM
Changed coaches ?
Met senior players?
Jackanory was a great show
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2021, 09:43:14 AM
Anthony Cunningham's appointment for 2022 to be officially rubber stamped this week.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 23, 2021, 01:37:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2021, 09:43:14 AM
Anthony Cunningham's appointment for 2022 to be officially rubber stamped this week.

What's your feelings on this? He hasn't brought Roscommon on after 2019 at all.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2021, 04:36:37 PM
Don't know if the fall off was players losing appetites after the Covid break from non stop football activities plus lads having won all they're going to. Also falling well short on the National stage 4 years in a row.
Or
Manager and squad having the year 1 fillip and then his defensive football putting them off.
My own opinion is that appointing Poacher was a total booboo as he imposed a Carlow type approach of non football.
Might be OK when you're a D3 or 4 team playing Dublin etc and keeping the score down. However when you're a top 10 losing badly to Armagh/Galway ....
The sight of Cox and Donie Smith back in their own D while we were 5 or 6 points behind v Galway was nonsense.
Hopefully AC will take action to freshen up the squad and approach rather than just see out the year as is.
I fear a continuation of the 2021 approach could see a lot of opt out for 22.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 27, 2021, 03:11:21 AM
Declan Bonner is reapplying for the Donegal job.

I'd imagine his chances hinge fairly strongly on whoever else is interested.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rosnarun on August 27, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2021, 03:11:21 AM
Declan Bonner is reapplying for the Donegal job.

I'd imagine his chances hinge fairly strongly on whoever else is interested.
must be unlikely he woud be reappointed .
hr has over seen donegal sink backinto the pacl where the top 6 is now probaly a top 4 max . I would see derry as a better short Term bet at this stage  esp if young tohill is as good as the hype
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on August 27, 2021, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 27, 2021, 11:57:43 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2021, 03:11:21 AM
Declan Bonner is reapplying for the Donegal job.

I'd imagine his chances hinge fairly strongly on whoever else is interested.
must be unlikely he woud be reappointed .
hr has over seen donegal sink backinto the pacl where the top 6 is now probaly a top 4 max . I would see derry as a better short Term bet at this stage  esp if young tohill is as good as the hype

What hype?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 27, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2021, 03:11:21 AM
Declan Bonner is reapplying for the Donegal job.

I'd imagine his chances hinge fairly strongly on whoever else is interested.

Will Donegal supporters be happy if Bonner remains in charge? No All-Ireland semi final appearance since 2014, that's underachievement for the players available to Donegal in my opinion.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 28, 2021, 12:57:10 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 27, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2021, 03:11:21 AM
Declan Bonner is reapplying for the Donegal job.

I'd imagine his chances hinge fairly strongly on whoever else is interested.

Will Donegal supporters be happy if Bonner remains in charge? No All-Ireland semi final appearance since 2014, that's underachievement for the players available to Donegal in my opinion.


For myself, one half feels it's time for a change for a fairly talented squad, the other that he didn't get the second chances the last two years to try to save the respective seasons.

Probably leaning towards change. But that is obviously contingent on who's available.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 30, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Bonner gets another two years.

Apparently no one else was put forward by the clubs.

Best of luck to him, but he needs to make changes.

Unearthing a defender or two would be a good start.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 31, 2021, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Bonner gets another two years.

Apparently no one else was put forward by the clubs.

Best of luck to him, but he needs to make changes.

Unearthing a defender or two would be a good start.

Donegal have gone backways over the past 2 years. Amazed they've kept Bonner. There must have been no-one else? Or the clubs were purposely not given the time to nominate someone? Very strange that not one single candidate was put forward. Smells fishy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 31, 2021, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: ck on August 31, 2021, 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2021, 08:59:29 PM
Bonner gets another two years.

Apparently no one else was put forward by the clubs.

Best of luck to him, but he needs to make changes.

Unearthing a defender or two would be a good start.

Donegal have gone backways over the past 2 years. Amazed they've kept Bonner. There must have been no-one else? Or the clubs were purposely not given the time to nominate someone? Very strange that not one single candidate was put forward. Smells fishy.

They've had a month to come up with someone.

And honestly, aside from the obvious elephant in the room who might see it as a step backwards, from his perspective, there aren't many names come to mind from within the county.

Bonner got it courtesy of his profile and the very recent success he'd had in guiding a good chunk of the squad through various underage levels.

If the county board didn't want him, they'd probably have had to go outside the county.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 31, 2021, 03:46:38 PM
Presume Keane is out the door with Kerry?

Keys to the Kingdom Part - again...

https://www.radiokerry.ie/sport/oconnor-hints-that-he-would-be-interested-in-taking-kerry-job-once-more-249091

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on August 31, 2021, 08:07:59 PM
O Connor is talking like Keane is already gone , he isn't yet. be he agreed to manage Kildare for 2022 and talking about wanting to manage kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 31, 2021, 09:32:39 PM
Doesn't matter who Donegal chose or what anyone else in Ulster does. That Tyrone team have that ulster title on lock for at least the next 2/3 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: hoynevalley on August 31, 2021, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 31, 2021, 08:07:59 PM
O Connor is talking like Keane is already gone , he isn't yet. be he agreed to manage Kildare for 2022 and talking about wanting to manage kerry.

Would save the lilywhites a few fortune off the books. Give job to Glen Ryan or Daithi Burke.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on August 31, 2021, 10:04:50 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 31, 2021, 09:32:39 PM
Doesn't matter who Donegal chose or what anyone else in Ulster does. That Tyrone team have that ulster title on lock for at least the next 2/3 years.

Whilst Tyrone were impressive on Sunday, dominance in Ulster is far from a given. Derry and Armagh are coming and getting stronger. Monaghan havent gone away and Donegal whilst regressing in recent years still have talent.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on September 01, 2021, 12:00:14 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 31, 2021, 09:32:39 PM
Doesn't matter who Donegal chose or what anyone else in Ulster does. That Tyrone team have that ulster title on lock for at least the next 2/3 years.

We'll see. Donegal-Tyrone games have been tight for the past decade with the exception of one game in 2017. Who has the hunger and intensity on the day makes a huge difference as does the breaks in terms of injuries and fitness and the other random things like missed penalties  :P. I'd be fairly confident of Donegal putting it up to them. I'd say the others will be the same. There'll be no bowing down to our Tyrone overlords in Ulster.  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 01, 2021, 12:40:11 PM
Tomas O'Se to form part of Offaly senior management team for next year.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0901/1244096-o-se-in-line-to-join-offaly-backroom-team-for-2022/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 01, 2021, 12:40:11 PM
Tomas O'Se to form part of Offaly senior management team for next year.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0901/1244096-o-se-in-line-to-join-offaly-backroom-team-for-2022/

Great appointment
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armamike on September 01, 2021, 04:25:00 PM
If Tyrone do manage to win the AI this year history shows us they tend to dine out the following year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 07, 2021, 02:19:37 PM
Ronan McCarthy gone in Cork.

Very much given the bullet based on the article below.

QuoteThe executive of Cork GAA has decided not to extend his term into the final season of their two-year agreement, despite McCarthy's desire and eagerness to do so. It is understood a meeting of the Executive Monday night rubber-stamped the decision.

Record defeat to Kerry, getting relegated to Division 3 and getting caught breaking the Covid ban rolling around on the beach in Youghal some of the low lights.

Evidence of a different approach by the Cork CB.

I'd say if Frank and friends were still running things he'd have every chance of getting to see out his last year.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40387241.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 07, 2021, 02:49:51 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 07, 2021, 02:19:37 PM
Ronan McCarthy gone in Cork.

Very much given the bullet based on the article below.

QuoteThe executive of Cork GAA has decided not to extend his term into the final season of their two-year agreement, despite McCarthy's desire and eagerness to do so. It is understood a meeting of the Executive Monday night rubber-stamped the decision.

Record defeat to Kerry, getting relegated to Division 3 and getting caught breaking the Covid ban rolling around on the beach in Youghal some of the low lights.

Evidence of a different approach by the Cork CB.

I'd say if Frank and friends were still running things he'd have every chance of getting to see out his last year.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40387241.html

Keith Ricken the obvious replacement and upgrade.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: hoynevalley on September 07, 2021, 05:52:33 PM
Jack OConnor off to Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on September 08, 2021, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 31, 2021, 09:32:39 PM
Doesn't matter who Donegal chose or what anyone else in Ulster does. That Tyrone team have that ulster title on lock for at least the next 2/3 years.
Really don't think so
Monaghan Donegal will not be worried about them and  Derry/ Armagh are coming strong .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 09, 2021, 02:33:57 PM
Shane Curran for Fermanagh?

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1245623/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on September 09, 2021, 04:33:03 PM
Can't see it at all, Donnelly looks the choice
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 09, 2021, 05:34:11 PM
Rumours are Curran has it .

https://twitter.com/SeamusDuke/status/1435965101824110601?s=19 (https://twitter.com/SeamusDuke/status/1435965101824110601?s=19)


Roscommon journalist now saying he will be confirmed tonight

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 09, 2021, 05:57:37 PM
Wouldn't be too sure if Dukie is the only one saying it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tintin25 on September 09, 2021, 09:49:32 PM
Kieran Donnelly new Fermanagh manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 09, 2021, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 09, 2021, 05:57:37 PM
Wouldn't be too sure if Dukie is the only one saying it.

Donnelly has it

https://fermanagh.gaa.ie/kieran-donnelly-new-manager/ (https://fermanagh.gaa.ie/kieran-donnelly-new-manager/)

Good appointment.


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 13, 2021, 09:46:25 PM
Peter Keane gone from Kerry. Thought he might've got one more year given how they were so close to beating Tyrone. No mention of whether he was sacked or left of his own accord but I think we can read between the lines. One below par performance done for him but it's Sam or nothing in Kerry. Jack O'Connor conveniently out of work could be in line for a third stint.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 13, 2021, 09:50:23 PM
His 3 year term was up, so it was going to be up for debate anyway.

https://t.co/OEL7ACQLql?amp=1
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 13, 2021, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2021, 09:46:25 PM
Peter Keane gone from Kerry. Thought he might've got one more year given how they were so close to beating Tyrone. No mention of whether he was sacked or left of his own accord but I think we can read between the lines. One below par performance done for him but it's Sam or nothing in Kerry. Jack O'Connor conveniently out of work could be in line for a third stint.

Not gone yet but it seems like he's in the running along side O'Connor and it's hard not to see the latter chosen.

Meanwhile Brian Cody kept on as senior hurling manager for Kilkenny  it will be his 24th season in charge
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 13, 2021, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 13, 2021, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2021, 09:46:25 PM
Peter Keane gone from Kerry. Thought he might've got one more year given how they were so close to beating Tyrone. No mention of whether he was sacked or left of his own accord but I think we can read between the lines. One below par performance done for him but it's Sam or nothing in Kerry. Jack O'Connor conveniently out of work could be in line for a third stint.

Not gone yet but it seems like he's in the running along side O'Connor and it's hard not to see the latter chosen.

Meanwhile Brian Cody kept on as senior hurling manager for Kilkenny  it will be his 24th season in charge

Seems fairly clear to me but time will tell. Surely if they wanted him back they would give him another year. It wouldn't surprise me if Jack O'Connor has been lined up especially given his comments a few weeks back whilst still in the Kildare job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 16, 2021, 03:58:21 PM
Banty getting a 3rd year in Monaghan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 17, 2021, 07:42:09 PM
Andy Moran favourite to take over Longford  https://t.co/tcvXdHq3jA?amp=1
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on September 18, 2021, 01:02:13 PM

Longford must not listen to the podcast
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2021, 02:40:51 PM
Nice to see a Roscommon man helping out our nicest neighbours.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 18, 2021, 03:45:56 PM
The rumour of Andy Moran is just that. No truth whatsoever.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 20, 2021, 10:06:25 AM
I see Longford CB have issued a statement saying they haven't interviewed anyone yet.
Also rumours about of him getting the Laythrum job!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 20, 2021, 10:46:49 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 20, 2021, 10:06:25 AM
I see Longford CB have issued a statement saying they haven't interviewed anyone yet.
Also rumours about of him getting the Laythrum job!

Longford CB have a GAA name as head of the 'Find a Manager' Committee. I would hear a bit on the grapevine so I was surprised when news of Moran's imminent appointment become news.
It certainly was news to the County Board!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on September 20, 2021, 12:29:02 PM
For a second there I thought it was a new fundraiser different than the "Win a House", "Win an Inter county manager"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 21, 2021, 02:25:46 PM
Will Kildare supporters be pleased if Tom Cribbin is named the next Kildare senior football manager instead of Davy Burke?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 21, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
Is Jack O'Connor nailed on for the Kerry job? Is not a bit of a backward step, with all due respect to the Dromid Pearses clubman?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on September 21, 2021, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 21, 2021, 02:25:46 PM
Will Kildare supporters be pleased if Tom Cribbin is named the next Kildare senior football manager instead of Davy Burke?

Thought Cribbin  done decent job with Westmeath but crazy for Kildare not to appoint Davy Burke.  Done great job with Confey, Kildare u20s, Sarsfields and Wicklow.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on September 21, 2021, 09:33:24 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 21, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
Is Jack O'Connor nailed on for the Kerry job? Is not a bit of a backward step, with all due respect to the Dromid Pearses clubman?
I doubt it because the one thing he'll be able to instill in Kerry is steel, and that's what they need. The rest pretty much takes care of itself. I'd fancy them for the All-Ireland next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 21, 2021, 09:41:35 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 21, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
Is Jack O'Connor nailed on for the Kerry job? Is not a bit of a backward step, with all due respect to the Dromid Pearses clubman?

The latest odds

Jack O'Connor                 5/4

Eamon Fitzmaurice         5/1

Seamus Moynihan          6/1

Peter Keane                     7/1

John Sugrue                     8/1

Donie Buckley                 14/1

Michael Quirke                16/1

John Evans                        20/1

Maurice Fitzgerald          20/1


Depends on the management team with O'Connor, if he brings in a good tackling, Defensive coach they will be there or thereabouts for the All-Ireland title under him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 21, 2021, 10:13:19 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 21, 2021, 09:33:24 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 21, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
Is Jack O'Connor nailed on for the Kerry job? Is not a bit of a backward step, with all due respect to the Dromid Pearses clubman?
I doubt it because the one thing he'll be able to instill in Kerry is steel, and that's what they need. The rest pretty much takes care of itself. I'd fancy them for the All-Ireland next year.

That "steel" didn't cut it against ourselves in the 2005 Final, and come to that, only Mick O'Dwyer (as manager) has had the necessary to vanquish the Red Hands in AI Finals.  :P
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 22, 2021, 05:59:41 PM
Stephen Stack has emerged as a contender for the Kerry job with a strong backroom team,

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/speculation-grows-that-all-star-managerial-team-headed-by-stephen-stack-in-frame-for-kingdom-job-40877962.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on September 23, 2021, 09:38:49 AM
I wouldnt be particularly a fan of Peter Keane, but I think he's been really hard done by!

They were a whisker away from Tyrone and I think would have handled Mayo (or Dublin) handy enough in the final.

I'd make them warm favourites to win next year if they retained Keane. But a new manager with new ideas, new gameplan, maybe new players, will inevitably lead to a step back, and while that may subsequently lead to two steps forward, it's more of a gamble.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: toby47 on September 23, 2021, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 23, 2021, 09:38:49 AM
I wouldnt be particularly a fan of Peter Keane, but I think he's been really hard done by!

They were a whisker away from Tyrone and I think would have handled Mayo (or Dublin) handy enough in the final.

I'd make them warm favourites to win next year if they retained Keane. But a new manager with new ideas, new gameplan, maybe new players, will inevitably lead to a step back, and while that may subsequently lead to two steps forward, it's more of a gamble.

Look at Tyrone this year...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on September 23, 2021, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 23, 2021, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 23, 2021, 09:38:49 AM
I wouldnt be particularly a fan of Peter Keane, but I think he's been really hard done by!

They were a whisker away from Tyrone and I think would have handled Mayo (or Dublin) handy enough in the final.

I'd make them warm favourites to win next year if they retained Keane. But a new manager with new ideas, new gameplan, maybe new players, will inevitably lead to a step back, and while that may subsequently lead to two steps forward, it's more of a gamble.

Look at Tyrone this year...
Oh not saying first time managers can't win. It has happened quite a few times in the last 30 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on September 23, 2021, 11:59:32 AM
If Peter Keane remained as Kerry manager they might win an All-Ireland because the players he has at his disposal are that good that they might win it anyway.

But they wouldn't be winning it because of him.

He just isn't very good as a manager at this level.

Donie Buckley leaving the set up was an indictment. Buckley is now lined up as part of a proposed alternative management team under Stephen Stack.

And Kerry's losses to Cork and Tyrone were also an indictment of the set up. They were matches Kerry should have had in their pocket.

I don't believe Kerry would have beaten Mayo in the final, by the way, I think they would have played to Mayo's strengths in a way Tyrone didn't.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on September 23, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
Donnie Buckley gets some coverage for a coach. Was he not with Kerry when beat by cork? Was he involved with those naive mayo teams? Even look at Monaghan last year, shocking defending against Armagh and tyrone at times . He's obviously a decent coach but not sure he's won a lot?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on September 23, 2021, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on September 23, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
Donnie Buckley gets some coverage for a coach. Was he not with Kerry when beat by cork? Was he involved with those naive mayo teams? Even look at Monaghan last year, shocking defending against Armagh and tyrone at times . He's obviously a decent coach but not sure he's won a lot?
He had left long before that. 2019 was the only year he was involved.

His record speaks for itself. He improves teams hugely.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 23, 2021, 01:16:33 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on September 23, 2021, 12:35:51 PM
Donnie Buckley gets some coverage for a coach. Was he not with Kerry when beat by cork? Was he involved with those naive mayo teams? Even look at Monaghan last year, shocking defending against Armagh and tyrone at times . He's obviously a decent coach but not sure he's won a lot?

The buck stops with the manager. When you're a backroom team member then you can always hide behind that if things go badly but win and you're hailed as a genius. This applies to S & C coaches, performance coaches and all other sorts of backroom team members, its a no lose situation for them. Buckley does get an awful lot of praise for a man that has not won an All Ireland though.

I don't know if Peter Keane is the answer to Kerry but whilst they had an abberration last year against Cork, this year they were playing probably the best football seen since a peak Dublin of a few years ago - at least up until the Tyrone match. They became too obsessed with beating Dublin but on balance I think Keane deserves another year.     
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sid waddell on September 23, 2021, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: Hound on September 23, 2021, 11:28:11 AM
Quote from: toby47 on September 23, 2021, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 23, 2021, 09:38:49 AM
I wouldnt be particularly a fan of Peter Keane, but I think he's been really hard done by!

They were a whisker away from Tyrone and I think would have handled Mayo (or Dublin) handy enough in the final.

I'd make them warm favourites to win next year if they retained Keane. But a new manager with new ideas, new gameplan, maybe new players, will inevitably lead to a step back, and while that may subsequently lead to two steps forward, it's more of a gamble.

Look at Tyrone this year...
Oh not saying first time managers can't win. It has happened quite a few times in the last 30 years.
Peter Keane would be going into Year 4 if he remained.

For All-Ireland winning managers, winning early after coming into the job is the norm, with few exceptions. There are very few managers who win their first All-Ireland in Year 4 or afterwards. Which is not very optimistic for James Horan.

No All-Ireland winning manager has won their first title in Year 4 or later since Sean Boylan. Eugene McGee is the only other one going back to the 1970s since Kevin Heffernan pretty much started the modern concept of the manager.

And they did it by slowly building up a team from a low base. They didn't do it in Kerry.

Kevin Heffernan - 1st year
Mick O'Dwyer - 1st year
Tony Hanahoe - 1st year
Eugene McGee - 6th year
Sean Boylan - 5th year
Billy Morgan - 3rd year
Peter McGrath - 2nd year
Brian McEniff - 3rd year (of that particular spell – he had had two previous spells as manager)
Eamon Coleman - 3rd year
Pat O'Neill - 3rd year
Paidi O'Se - 2nd year
John O'Mahony - 1st year
Joe Kernan - 1st year
Mickey Harte - 1st year
Jack O'Connor - 1st year
Pat O'Shea - 1st year
Conor Counihan - 3rd year
Pat Gilroy - 3rd year
Jim McGuinness - 2nd year
Jim Gavin - 1st year
Eamonn Fitzmaurice - 2nd year
Dessie Farrell - 1st year
Brian Dooher/Fergal Logan - 1st year
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 24, 2021, 06:56:37 PM
CONFIRMED: Jack O'Connor will return as
@Kerry_Official
football manager next season. He will be joined by selectors Mike Quirke and Diarmuid Murphy. Nothing yet on Paddy Tally joining the ticket. More on
@ExaminerSport
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 24, 2021, 09:12:10 PM
What a surprise!! You could see this coming from a mile off as soon as Jack O'Connor threw his hat in the ring whilst still Kildare manager even though the Kerry job wasn't available at that point. Whether Keane deserved another year is open for debate but he was treated shabbily by Kerry in the end and Jack O'Connor doesn't come out of it very well either.

There was a pretence that the job was open for applications but the reality is that O'Connor had been sounded out in advance.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on September 24, 2021, 09:17:15 PM
I agree with you. Could you imagine the reaction if old nemesis Tyrone knock them out of the All Ireland next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 24, 2021, 10:01:18 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 24, 2021, 09:12:10 PM
What a surprise!! You could see this coming from a mile off as soon as Jack O'Connor threw his hat in the ring whilst still Kildare manager even though the Kerry job wasn't available at that point. Whether Keane deserved another year is open for debate but he was treated shabbily by Kerry in the end and Jack O'Connor doesn't come out of it very well either.

There was a pretence that the job was open for applications but the reality is that O'Connor had been sounded out in advance.

What's the logic in bringing back Jack. Hasn't he been there twice before. I would expect he wil be gunning for tyrone next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 24, 2021, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 24, 2021, 10:01:18 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 24, 2021, 09:12:10 PM
What a surprise!! You could see this coming from a mile off as soon as Jack O'Connor threw his hat in the ring whilst still Kildare manager even though the Kerry job wasn't available at that point. Whether Keane deserved another year is open for debate but he was treated shabbily by Kerry in the end and Jack O'Connor doesn't come out of it very well either.

There was a pretence that the job was open for applications but the reality is that O'Connor had been sounded out in advance.

What's the logic in bringing back Jack. Hasn't he been there twice before. I would expect he wil be gunning for tyrone next year.

I don't know but it's a poor reflection on other prospective managers within Kerry if they're winding the clock back 17 years. Worse still if he takes Paddy Tally in to coach them how to play football, just look at the type of football Galway and Down played under him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on September 24, 2021, 10:16:05 PM
Be interesting to see how Clifford goes at left half back under tally!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on September 25, 2021, 09:37:04 AM
Ricey to Cavan as part of Graham's management team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 25, 2021, 11:40:41 AM
Kerry aren't far away, scored 22 times in the semi and lost to Tyrone's 17 scores.  Won the National League and Munster Championship this year. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 25, 2021, 09:54:44 PM
That's probably failure in Kerry :D
Meanwhile Waterford football manager Shane Ronayne steps down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 25, 2021, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 25, 2021, 11:40:41 AM
Kerry aren't far away, scored 22 times in the semi and lost to Tyrone's 17 scores.  Won the National League and Munster Championship this year.

Kerry played two "real" games this year...Dublin in the league and Tyrone in the championship, both at neutral venues.

Kerry conceded SEVEN goals in those two games.

Fix that without hurting the scoring efforts is the simple mandate for Jack and co.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 28, 2021, 08:30:03 AM
Andy Moran for Leitrim now I hear.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 28, 2021, 11:21:11 AM
Yep...see my post 20th September.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 28, 2021, 03:25:33 PM
Ourgame.ie are the only ones that I see that linked Andy Moran to the Longford gig and they also said Kevin Walsh for Leitrim.

They'll need to get new sources if Moran ends up Leitrim manager and Walsh joins Kildare management as their coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 28, 2021, 04:04:10 PM
Latest from midwest radio: Andy has said he ain't interested in the gig.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on September 28, 2021, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 25, 2021, 11:40:41 AM
Kerry aren't far away, scored 22 times in the semi and lost to Tyrone's 17 scores.  Won the National League and Munster Championship this year.
O Connor always wins his all Irelands the year after Tyrone. 04 06 09.. He does be getting so angry... 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 28, 2021, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better

Cork did come back and win it the next year though Seafóid. Fair's fair.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 28, 2021, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 28, 2021, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
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In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better

Cork did come back and win it the next year though Seafóid. Fair's fair.

Cork won Munster titles 2006, '08, '09, '12 and three in a row NFL Div 1 titles 2010, 11,12.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 29, 2021, 07:19:22 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 28, 2021, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
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Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better

Cork did come back and win it the next year though Seafóid. Fair's fair.
They did but they have psychological issues in all Ireland finals, Iolar. They tend to calve. Especially against Kerry. And they only won the 1.


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on September 29, 2021, 07:22:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better

The same Cork team that only Kerry could beat in championship for 6 years. The same Cork team who in 2008 and 2009 beat the reigning all Ireland champions. The same Cork team who actually won the all Ireland in 2010. Yeah they were rubbish altogether. Kerry shouldn't have even celebrated.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2021, 07:59:13 AM
Exactly. That was a good cork team who should have won more all irelands than they did. Some great players on it and collectively they were huge too. They kind of limped over the line against Down but should have won more.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on September 29, 2021, 08:14:54 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 29, 2021, 07:59:13 AM
Exactly. That was a good cork team who should have won more all irelands than they did. Some great players on it and collectively they were huge too. They kind of limped over the line against Down but should have won more.

A dry day and Down would have won that one. Crap weather suits big, ignorant fúckers...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2021, 08:39:58 AM
I don't think you were ever winning that tbh but you got a lot tighter than you should ever have...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 29, 2021, 09:20:50 AM
If Cork had a Mickey Harte type manager managing that team they would have won more than just the one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 29, 2021, 10:51:15 AM
They should have had 2 or 3. Some very good players on that team. No absolute superstars when you think about it but just a collection of a very high standard of player.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on September 29, 2021, 05:22:04 PM
Couple of players returning from AFL.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/early-boost-for-jack-oconnor-as-ex-underage-star-stefan-okunbor-returns-to-kerry-from-afl-40899837.html

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/luke-towey-tipped-for-sligo-return-after-two-year-afl-stint-40901828.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 29, 2021, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: shark on September 29, 2021, 07:22:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better

The same Cork team that only Kerry could beat in championship for 6 years. The same Cork team who in 2008 and 2009 beat the reigning all Ireland champions. The same Cork team who actually won the all Ireland in 2010. Yeah they were rubbish altogether. Kerry shouldn't have even celebrated.
Kerry will always beat Cork and Mayo in all Ireland finals. They won't beat Down or Tyrone. It's weird
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 30, 2021, 08:35:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 29, 2021, 07:19:22 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on September 28, 2021, 09:39:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 28, 2021, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 25, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 25, 2021, 12:15:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 24, 2021, 11:12:08 PM
In fairness, O'Connor knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in All Ireland Finals.

In all fairness, Mayo never turned up in 2004, they beat themselves.

As I said he knows how to beat Mayo and Cork in AI Finals.

Beating Mayo in 2004 and 2006 looks good on his CV, but how much of an achievement was it really ?
These two All Ireland's must go under the 'solf' heading.
Beating Cork wasn't much better

Cork did come back and win it the next year though Seafóid. Fair's fair.
They did but they have psychological issues in all Ireland finals, Iolar. They tend to calve. Especially against Kerry. And they only won the 1.

From where I'm standing in the County Mayo Seafóid, a stór, winning just the one doesn't sound that bad.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 30, 2021, 01:20:30 PM
Who are still managerless?
Leitrim...rumours of Ros Andy which may be false
Cork
Kildare... announcement expected this weekend
Longford... previous rumours put to bed
Wicklow?
Waterford...manager left to fulfill his dream if managing Cirk ladies.

Mayowestros...is Horan's term up?
Have Laois or Carlow got managers?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 30, 2021, 02:11:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 30, 2021, 01:20:30 PM
Who are still managerless?
Leitrim...rumours of Ros Andy which may be false
Cork
Kildare... announcement expected this weekend
Longford... previous rumours put to bed
Wicklow?
Waterford...manager left to fulfill his dream if managing Cirk ladies.

Mayowestros...is Horan's term up?
Have Laois or Carlow got managers?

PJs  term with Galway is up. No word if he'll be kept on.

Looks like Keith Ricken will on the Cork senior gig.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on October 01, 2021, 08:56:58 AM
Andy Moran off to Leitrim: https://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/gaelic-games/671973/irish-independent-report-names-andy-moran-as-new-leitrim-senior-team-manager.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 01, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
Glen Ryan is the new Kildare manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 01, 2021, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
Glen Ryan is the new Kildare manager.

(https://kildaregaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/31/2021/10/Untitled.png)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on October 02, 2021, 07:11:10 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
Glen Ryan is the new Kildare manager.
And the backroom team of Kildare blue bloods. This could be the one to get Kildare over the line. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on October 02, 2021, 07:12:25 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 02, 2021, 07:11:10 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 01, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
Glen Ryan is the new Kildare manager.
And the backroom team of Kildare blue bloods. This could be the one to get Kildare over the line. 

Which line are you referring to?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 04, 2021, 10:55:53 AM
Rumours of a Laythrum announcement this evening.
That's some line up for Kildare.....but good players don't always make good managers.. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 04, 2021, 12:13:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 04, 2021, 10:55:53 AM
Rumours of a Laythrum announcement this evening.
That's some line up for Kildare.....but good players don't always make good managers..

Glenn is a good manager - Leinster u21, Division 3 and 4 with Longord. Intermediate with Towers and has kept them senior with a poor crop of players, maximised their talent.
Rainbow won a Dublin SFC and a Leinster SFC with Ballyboden.
Johnny Doyle is making great strides revamping Maynooth's Sigerson credentials.
Brian Lacey is a top class performance analyst and was in the Tipp background team when they got to an AISF.

Exciting times for Kildare! Makes a change.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 04, 2021, 12:24:50 PM
Exciting is right and I really hope they do the job. And being honest I hope Jacko crashes and burns in Kerry.
Like he must have been making moves for months all the while telling Kildare he was on board. And he would have jumped if Keane got the boot last year. It's great to have a Kildare man in charge who genuinely gives a shite and is around the county.

I really felt there was no positive presence from Kildare footballers during the pandemic (I do know the lads did a lot with their clubs) compared to Herity getting the hurlers out to do charity runs and so on.
I know that is an aside from the football but a real presence in the county is massive.

It will be a tough year all the same as I do see Kildare struggling in Division 1 but if we can perform to a decent standard and get some consistency it'll be a start.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 04, 2021, 12:50:58 PM
Delighted for Glen. Everyone in Longford GAA has only good things to say about him.

Now, if he can stop Kildare peaking for the O'Byrne Cup then that's half the battle won!

Wish him all the bet, within reason.....

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Qwerty28 on October 04, 2021, 01:37:04 PM
Any word on the Longford vacancy Shamrock?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 04, 2021, 03:09:58 PM
Quote from: Qwerty28 on October 04, 2021, 01:37:04 PM
Any word on the Longford vacancy Shamrock?

Hearing nothing Qwerty28.....lips are very tight. Which may mean that there is no credible candidate in the frame.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on October 04, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
It looks like a Kildare brains trust. Johnny Doyle is a super analyst.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 04, 2021, 04:45:34 PM
Glen Ryan seemed an obvious choice for a while ,for kildare.,  Jason Ryan ,Cian O Neill , Jack cute hoor O Connor have managed Kildare since McGeeney,but Ryan and his backroom team looks the best fit.

A lot of bluster with the other managers
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 06, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
Joyce remains in charge of the Galway footballers it seems.

https://www.tuamherald.ie/2021/10/06/joyce-expected-to-continue-for-third-year/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 07, 2021, 10:58:38 AM
 Andy McEntee's reign as Meath manager could be over

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/andy-mcentees-royal-reign-looks-set-to-end-after-board-vote-against-him-staying-on-40925786.html#
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on October 07, 2021, 12:12:30 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 06, 2021, 04:13:33 PM
Joyce remains in charge of the Galway footballers it seems.

https://www.tuamherald.ie/2021/10/06/joyce-expected-to-continue-for-third-year/

I have zero optimism for 2022 at the moment, we're a shambles from county board down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 07, 2021, 12:20:11 PM
McEntee wasn't expected was it? Obviously delighted to see Meath in turmoil and I am agin Jacko at Kerry too now, so I am happy to see gripes and the likes in both place.

But who is lined up for Meath?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 07, 2021, 12:32:29 PM
Ros Andy get his neighbouring County Job

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/1007/1252272-andy-moran-confirmed-as-new-leitrim-football-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 07, 2021, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 07, 2021, 12:32:29 PM
Ros Andy get his neighbouring County Job

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/1007/1252272-andy-moran-confirmed-as-new-leitrim-football-manager/

Assisted in his role by fellow Ballaghadereen man, Mike Solan as Assistant Manager, both are currently joint managers with Ballaghaderreen..

Former Leitrim players Barry McWeeney and James Glancy the Selectors. Those lads won the Sigerson Cup with Moran back in 2005 with Sligo It.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on October 07, 2021, 03:34:20 PM
Jack O'Connor getting Paddy Tally in to coach the Kerry senior football team is akin to Ronald Koeman asking Sam Allardyce in to assist with coaching Barcelona. His approach is stats based risk averse football (often playing double sweepers) which is hardly synonomous with Kerry, so it is a fair gauge as to what direction Jack O'Connor wants to take them. Must be up there with the longest commutes in intercounty GAA history. Kerry now have 3 intercounty managers as part of their management set up for next season with last seasons Kildare, Down and Laois managers all coming together so it will be interesting to see the dynamic of who is responsible for what. 

Andy Moran was the ultimate thinking footballer who made the most of his talents by using his football brain so it will be interesting to see if he can translate that into management which is a completely different game.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 07, 2021, 06:53:40 PM
I get more bothered by Jack O'Connor leaving Kildare after agreeing to stay on the more it goes on and I really hope it all goes to shite. The nice view is to thank the man and all that, but he got his coin.

Suddenly, after two years he realises Kerry and Kildare are very far from each other the commute is a big issue...going on the podcast as Kildare manager sounding out the Kerry job on August 30th...his sons moved on back to Kerry so that link was gone too.

He would have left Kildare if Keane got the boot last year too. (I'm gone very bitter in this mild weather!!)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on October 08, 2021, 06:33:07 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 07, 2021, 12:20:11 PM
McEntee wasn't expected was it? Obviously delighted to see Meath in turmoil and I am agin Jacko at Kerry too now, so I am happy to see gripes and the likes in both place.

But who is lined up for Meath?

To answer your question, NO ONE!!

That would have meant there was a plan or something resembling forward thinking by the board.

This is the most bone headed knee jerk decision I've seen since the 2010 debacle. Honestly this seems like nothing more than a few disgruntled heads angry about the U20s. Ever since then there have been a good few clueless ejits shouting "Andy Out" on social media with no idea of who'd replace him, maybe Bernard Flynn because.....??? No idea, or Colm O'Rourke who is Stone Age judging by his punditry.

Whether you like him or not Andy is passionate about Meath, that's why he gets a bit mad, And that's fine by me. He gives a damn. and he'll stick around and not f**k off to Kerry or wherever.

You won't even get that passion from O'Rourke or Flynn either. They've got a comfortable life in journalism and punditry. They'll put their hand in for a year or two with a large back room team to do the real work no doubt and if it doesn't go well they'll jump. Andy had a rough few years to begin with but stuck to it and it was starting to pay off. There have been a few wobbles recently like losing to Kildare in the league this year but you can't ignore the effects the pandemic has had too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on October 08, 2021, 03:45:43 PM
McEntee will have plenty of lucrative offers from Dublin Clubs. He made sure to no burn that bridge when he was on Prime Time when they done a bit on Dublin's financial Doping/advantages. He gave Pat Gilroy a free pass that night.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 08, 2021, 07:15:14 PM
I hope Kildare can compete in Leinster again. They have a serious statement of intent made anyways, which might boost players' morale.

PS, no harm to be bitter Scarlet. A bit of 'get it off your chest' never did anyone harm.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 09, 2021, 02:05:53 PM
I'm due another rant after this - https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40716857.html

So, Kerry fans make sure to read Jack's body language as he doesn't always actually tell you what he is doing.

He was on the Podcast at the end of August where he was introduced as the CURRENT Kildare manager. But, again it's hard to read the body language over Zoom...

Like FFS!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 12, 2021, 10:24:25 PM
Andy McEntee has been given the go-ahead to oversee what will be his sixth season in charge of the Meath senior football team.

The Nobber native got the nod after an emergency county board meeting in Trim's Knightsbrook Hotel tonight, with the vote on his future as Royals boss falling at the hands of the club delegates.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: dublin7 on October 12, 2021, 10:30:16 PM
Normally this would lead to resignations at board level after such a resounding and humiliating defeat for them, but GAA county board members are a different breed and I doubt you'll see any of them step down
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 13, 2021, 05:51:09 PM
Keith Ricken is set to take over the Cork senior footballers after a five-person selection committee recommended that the county executive propose his appointment on a two-year term.

Ricken, who will need to be confirmed at a full county board meeting, managed the Rebels' U20s to the All-Ireland title in 2019 and a second Munster crown this year. He also led Cork IT to their sole Sigerson Cup success in 2009.

_________________

I think Ricken could turn out to be a very good appointment. Cork have been one of the most if not the most underachieving teams in Ireland for the last number of years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.

You can't underestimate an ability to sell yourself, talk the coaching lingo and give a good powerpoint presentation.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Manning18 on October 19, 2021, 09:09:27 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.

What are you talking about? He has an impeccable record as a coach from his time with Tipp (fitness), Mayo and Kerry. Word was he was one of the most innovative coaches in the country and his training sessions were excellent. His stints into management since have been mixed, but Galway aren't looking for a manager, just a trainer which they've lacked bigtime supposedly over th past 2 years
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on October 19, 2021, 10:57:03 AM
The press statement from Galway GAA is telling "The Kildare man will join Padraic Joyce next season as a coach."

"a coach" not "the coach"

We haven't seen any detail behind this, how involved will he be ? Its a five hour round trip for him to Galway, its hard to see him coming up to Galway that often, maybe i'm being cynical.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on October 19, 2021, 11:49:22 AM
We'll see how it goes but it's not like things could get much worse I suppose, you couldn't be that optimistic all the same, would be a miracle turnaround.
Be right back to square one in 2023 I'd say.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on October 19, 2021, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.

You can't underestimate an ability to sell yourself, talk the coaching lingo and give a good powerpoint presentation.
The title of the thread is incredibly apt. Same names going round and round. It's hard to get on this merry go round, but it's harder to get off!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thebackbar1 on October 19, 2021, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 19, 2021, 11:49:22 AM
We'll see how it goes but it's not like things could get much worse I suppose, you couldn't be that optimistic all the same, would be a miracle turnaround.
Be right back to square one in 2023 I'd say.

If players walk away it will get worse, if Mayo progress on the current path with proper s&c and Galway don't the gap will get wider, no doubt about it. Standing still is going backwards.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 19, 2021, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.

You can't underestimate an ability to sell yourself, talk the coaching lingo and give a good powerpoint presentation.
The title of the thread is incredibly apt. Same names going round and round. It's hard to get on this merry go round, but it's harder to get off!

Replace Steve Bruce, Harry Redknapp and Big Sam with Cian O'Neill, Rory Gallagher and Paddy Tally etc.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 04:13:12 PM
It looks like Davy Fitz to Galway hurlers is a done deal, another one on the merry go round.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 19, 2021, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.
In O'Neill case he was involved in Kerry and Tipperary football and hurling All Ireland success. Poacher played his part in getting the best out of Carlow remains to be seen if he's suited to Roscommon

The one year Tally was with Galway they reached the All-Ireland semi final and NFL final, Galway best year for some time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on October 19, 2021, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on October 19, 2021, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on October 19, 2021, 11:49:22 AM
We'll see how it goes but it's not like things could get much worse I suppose, you couldn't be that optimistic all the same, would be a miracle turnaround.
Be right back to square one in 2023 I'd say.

If players walk away it will get worse, if Mayo progress on the current path with proper s&c and Galway don't the gap will get wider, no doubt about it. Standing still is going backwards.

I suppose I meant in the context of how whatever players are there will be turned out on the pitch. Sure there's little to show that we're not going backwards at a rate of knots, Division Two next year again.

Whatever about the Davy Fitz palaver this is interesting from Mick Foley article in the Sunday Times:
The senior hurlers had a back room team of 23 people under O'Neill, and it is the hurling board's intention to have a team of eight strength and conditioning coaches available to the seniors, under-20s and minors for the coming season. Lukasz Kirszenstein has been head of their S&C since 2017, and he was joined this week by a new coach who has committed to 22 hours a week. It is understood that the panel of eight S&C coaches will also include college interns.

The hurling board is also planning to appoint a development squad manager who would liaise with the senior, under-20 and minor managements to keep promising young players in the system.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8dc71e2c-2ec6-11ec-9657-60f46274c249?shareToken=9e5477062001034cdf4646ab99591232 (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8dc71e2c-2ec6-11ec-9657-60f46274c249?shareToken=9e5477062001034cdf4646ab99591232)

My question would be, what are the football side doing at the minute that's in the same vein as that? Whatever about anything else the S&C looked shocking this year at Senior never mind down the levels.
A lot of what is proposed there is very similar to the recommendations that KW left the football board when he exited, what long term plan is there to get Galway back into an AI final again? Doesn't seem to be anything there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shawshank on October 20, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 19, 2021, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.

You can't underestimate an ability to sell yourself, talk the coaching lingo and give a good powerpoint presentation.
The title of the thread is incredibly apt. Same names going round and round. It's hard to get on this merry go round, but it's harder to get off!

Replace Steve Bruce, Harry Redknapp and Big Sam with Cian O'Neill, Rory Gallagher and Paddy Tally etc.

Gallagher and Tally were parts of All Ireland winning management teams, Tally has won a Sigerson, tried the management thing and is back where he is excellent at coaching. Gallagher got to a couple of Ulster finals with an old team, got Fermanagh to an Ulster final which is no mean feat, has taken Derry out of the basement and in successive years to Division 2 and Derry are certainly on the up. Your analysis is not lazy but reeks of bitterness and spitefulness, and may I add, not for the first time.
Davy Fitz is an All Ireland winning manager. You must have done some winning as a coach or manager to have such an important view of your own opinion to look down your nose at people.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on October 20, 2021, 05:15:43 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 20, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Hound on October 19, 2021, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2021, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on October 19, 2021, 08:04:41 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on October 18, 2021, 08:44:28 PM
Not technically a manager but announced this evening that Cian O'Neill has joined Padraic Joyce's backroom team as coach.

Another man who's stealing a living on the circuit.
I'd put him in the same bracket as Poacher and tally.
Complete bluffers but some county/club always fool enough to take them on, irrespective of traci record of continued failure.

You can't underestimate an ability to sell yourself, talk the coaching lingo and give a good powerpoint presentation.
The title of the thread is incredibly apt. Same names going round and round. It's hard to get on this merry go round, but it's harder to get off!

Replace Steve Bruce, Harry Redknapp and Big Sam with Cian O'Neill, Rory Gallagher and Paddy Tally etc.

Gallagher and Tally were parts of All Ireland winning management teams, Tally has won a Sigerson, tried the management thing and is back where he is excellent at coaching. Gallagher got to a couple of Ulster finals with an old team, got Fermanagh to an Ulster final which is no mean feat, has taken Derry out of the basement and in successive years to Division 2 and Derry are certainly on the up. Your analysis is not lazy but reeks of bitterness and spitefulness, and may I add, not for the first time.
Davy Fitz is an All Ireland winning manager. You must have done some winning as a coach or manager to have such an important view of your own opinion to look down your nose at people.

Give your head a wobble. I'm not arguing about their coaching credentials but their nomadic existence on the circuit. Between the 3 of them they've been involved with management in about 17 different counties. Looking down my nose, don't make me laugh!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
King Henry to take over the Galway senior hurlers. More power to him!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 20, 2021, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
King Henry to take over the Galway senior hurlers. More power to him!

Davy a serious contender for shortest managerial reign ever.

Would be interesting to see who was it who broke the news that Davy had the job yesterday.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 20, 2021, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
King Henry to take over the Galway senior hurlers. More power to him!
Who has he managed prior to this?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 20, 2021, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
King Henry to take over the Galway senior hurlers. More power to him!
Who has he managed prior to this?

Ballyhale Shamrocks to a senior club all Ireland and Thomastown in Kilkenny Intermediate championship atm.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on October 22, 2021, 12:34:34 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 20, 2021, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
King Henry to take over the Galway senior hurlers. More power to him!

Davy a serious contender for shortest managerial reign ever.

Would be interesting to see who was it who broke the news that Davy had the job yesterday.
Keeping the news secret was the biggest thing. Apparently only 7 people knew
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 22, 2021, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 20, 2021, 07:22:53 PM
Quote from: Helix. on October 20, 2021, 05:35:45 PM
King Henry to take over the Galway senior hurlers. More power to him!
Who has he managed prior to this?

Ballyhale Shamrocks to a senior club all Ireland and Thomastown in Kilkenny Intermediate championship atm.

Ballyhale won the senior All-Ireland two years in a row.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 30, 2021, 11:12:34 AM
Only Longford and Down still vacant it seems.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on November 03, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 30, 2021, 11:12:34 AM
Only Longford and Down still vacant it seems.

I heard some strong rumours that Dermot McCabe is in line for Longford role. He stepped away from Mickey Grahams backroom panel with Cavan and is the current manager of Gowna who are back in a county final in Cavan this weekend against Ramor. He is also the counties Games Development Officer.

Related to this is the two clubs in the same parish competing in senior finals in different counties on the same day!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/divided-parish-heading-in-opposite-directions-40987826.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 07, 2021, 11:18:50 PM
Poacher gone from Ros backroom to pursue "interests closer to home".
Is he to be part of a new Down management team?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
Heard rumours about a very big name being suggested for the Down job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
Heard rumours about a very big name being suggested for the Down job.

Jimmy
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: inroundthesquare on November 08, 2021, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
Heard rumours about a very big name being suggested for the Down job.

Jimmy

Gavin or McGuinness.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on November 08, 2021, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on November 08, 2021, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
Heard rumours about a very big name being suggested for the Down job.

Jimmy

Gavin or McGuinness.....

Don't think I've ever heard Gavin referred to as Jimmy Gavin so I am presuming the rumour must be Jimmy McGuinness? If that were to ring true it would end all pretensions of there being a 'Down way' once and for all. I can't see that happening however.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2021, 11:38:29 AM
The Down thread is hilarious. New name every morning.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 12:03:00 PM
The Down job looks very unappealing. Not sure if even McGuinness could do a job there
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on November 08, 2021, 01:57:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2021, 11:38:29 AM
The Down thread is hilarious. New name every morning.
Kilcoo should be disbanded if the new new manager has any chance of making a go of it
Dominant teams are rarely good for the county
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Taylor on November 08, 2021, 02:40:09 PM
Kilcoo players have issues playing for the county - that would be one of the issues rather than a dominant club being the issue
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on November 08, 2021, 06:22:01 PM
Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 12:03:00 PM
The Down job looks very unappealing. Not sure if even McGuinness could do a job there

McGuinness won one All Ireland and never came close to winning another. One season wonder. What's the big deal about him ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on November 08, 2021, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on November 08, 2021, 06:22:01 PM
Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 12:03:00 PM
The Down job looks very unappealing. Not sure if even McGuinness could do a job there

McGuinness won one All Ireland and never came close to winning another. One season wonder. What's the big deal about him ?

I have always thought the same. Took players to the absolute extreme and was involved in some of the worst matches in living memory. He wouldnt have a look in at another AI
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 08, 2021, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2021, 10:33:00 AM
Heard rumours about a very big name being suggested for the Down job.
Like a name with a lot of letters?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 08, 2021, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on November 08, 2021, 06:22:01 PM
Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2021, 12:03:00 PM
The Down job looks very unappealing. Not sure if even McGuinness could do a job there

McGuinness won one All Ireland and never came close to winning another. One season wonder. What's the big deal about him ?
Donegal under Jim McGuinness won three Ulster titles 2011, '12, '14  (2011 was their first since 1992) and reached two All-Ireland finals winning one. Donegal haven't reached All Ireland semi final since he left.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on November 08, 2021, 07:23:17 PM
I wouldn't rewrite history because McGuinness did transform Donegal and won an All Ireland that nobody seen coming. I think they were ranked 17th in Ireland or something like that before he took them over.

However his tactics were a blight on the GAA as they filtered their way down through the GAA in every county at every level. You have to admire him for having the vision and the balls to implement that style of play but it was brutal, horrible stuff. The game has moved on a lot since then, however. Adapt or die.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on November 08, 2021, 07:46:59 PM
Ah, McGuinness took on a three to four year Project. He (on his own whim) got the proper finances in order during that period. He took what was in large a very experienced and under-achieving group of players and made them believe in a system. He also made other teams fear Donegal.

Finance, ambition/hunger, Energy, life cycle, an aging squad and the emergence of financially doped Dublin meant this project was always going to have short term success.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on November 09, 2021, 05:40:59 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 08, 2021, 07:23:17 PM
I wouldn't rewrite history because McGuinness did transform Donegal and won an All Ireland that nobody seen coming. I think they were ranked 17th in Ireland or something like that before he took them over.

However his tactics were a blight on the GAA as they filtered their way down through the GAA in every county at every level. You have to admire him for having the vision and the balls to implement that style of play but it was brutal, horrible stuff. The game has moved on a lot since then, however. Adapt or die.

That doesn't mean he would use the same tactics now. He analyses football in the Irish Times and is always a good read.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on November 09, 2021, 10:32:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 09, 2021, 05:40:59 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 08, 2021, 07:23:17 PM
I wouldn't rewrite history because McGuinness did transform Donegal and won an All Ireland that nobody seen coming. I think they were ranked 17th in Ireland or something like that before he took them over.

However his tactics were a blight on the GAA as they filtered their way down through the GAA in every county at every level. You have to admire him for having the vision and the balls to implement that style of play but it was brutal, horrible stuff. The game has moved on a lot since then, however. Adapt or die.

That doesn't mean he would use the same tactics now. He analyses football in the Irish Times and is always a good read.

You may be right in terms of him taking a completely different tactical approach to the game now. But I don't think he can ever come up with anything as innovative again that will help steal such a march on all of the opposition.  His tactics ushered in an era of over coaching and analysis that still continue to this day so any advantage in this area would be a lot more limited now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on November 09, 2021, 12:22:07 PM
Mc Guinness and Poacher would definitely get the best out of Down football. Is there much coming through. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on November 09, 2021, 01:03:47 PM
Perhaps there is no smoke without fire but a move back into GAA at this stage makes very little sense from Jim McGuinness point of view. Would he be prepared to cast aside years of soccer education to move back into the GAA without having had any form of tangible success? Its only a few months ago that he was being interviewed for the Dundalk job and as far as I understand it, he is currently in the final stages of completing his UEFA Pro licence after which he can manage professionally himself. So it makes no logical sense to move back into GAA management at this stage never mind to take on with Down. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 01:32:25 PM
Ref'd a few challenge games recently and there are a host of pundits managing sides at the minute, would those lads who talk the talk not put themselves forward?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: general_lee on November 09, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 09, 2021, 01:03:47 PM
Perhaps there is no smoke without fire but a move back into GAA at this stage makes very little sense from Jim McGuinness point of view. Would he be prepared to cast aside years of soccer education to move back into the GAA without having had any form of tangible success? Its only a few months ago that he was being interviewed for the Dundalk job and as far as I understand it, he is currently in the final stages of completing his UEFA Pro licence after which he can manage professionally himself. So it makes no logical sense to move back into GAA management at this stage never mind to take on with Down.
Don't see why not, another feather in his cap. He's been working on the pro license for a few years and another 1-2 years with down wouldn't do any harm.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2021, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 09, 2021, 01:32:25 PM
Ref'd a few challenge games recently and there are a host of pundits managing sides at the minute, would those lads who talk the talk not put themselves forward?

One pundit Kevin McStay is back in management after he said he was retiring in 2018. On Sunday he led Roscommon Gaels to the county minor title, their first since 2010.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on November 09, 2021, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 09, 2021, 01:03:47 PM
Perhaps there is no smoke without fire but a move back into GAA at this stage makes very little sense from Jim McGuinness point of view. Would he be prepared to cast aside years of soccer education to move back into the GAA without having had any form of tangible success? Its only a few months ago that he was being interviewed for the Dundalk job and as far as I understand it, he is currently in the final stages of completing his UEFA Pro licence after which he can manage professionally himself. So it makes no logical sense to move back into GAA management at this stage never mind to take on with Down.

Almost two and a half years since Charlotte fired him.
A record of 1 win in 14 league games is a fairly big albatross to be carrying around when looking for a job in the soocer world especially when the manager who replaced him won 8 of the remaining 20 league games with the same squad. The same team had won 8 out of 16 league games the year before McGuinness arrived.

Recently he has been involved as a coach with the Derry City U19s who won the U19 league about two weeks ago.
He was third in the pecking order there behind the manager and head coach of the U19s.

I can definitely see why a return to GAA would appeal to McGuinness.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 10, 2021, 04:22:29 PM
Jim McGuinness on the rumours of coaching Down.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-says-there-is-no-truth-to-rumours-about-down-coaching-job-1.4724641
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on November 11, 2021, 12:01:50 AM
If I were a Down man I'd want malachy O Rourke ...wins wherever he goes. ... not one in a row then fail McGuinness
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on November 11, 2021, 08:07:31 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on November 11, 2021, 12:01:50 AM
If I were a Down man I'd want malachy O Rourke ...wins wherever he goes. ... not one in a row then fail McGuinness

A couple of Donegal senior club titles, and in 4 years with the County, 3 Ulster's and 1 x All Ireland....most would take that kind of failure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: barnish oggie on November 11, 2021, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 09, 2021, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 09, 2021, 01:03:47 PM
Perhaps there is no smoke without fire but a move back into GAA at this stage makes very little sense from Jim McGuinness point of view. Would he be prepared to cast aside years of soccer education to move back into the GAA without having had any form of tangible success? Its only a few months ago that he was being interviewed for the Dundalk job and as far as I understand it, he is currently in the final stages of completing his UEFA Pro licence after which he can manage professionally himself. So it makes no logical sense to move back into GAA management at this stage never mind to take on with Down.
Don't see why not, another feather in his cap. He's been working on the pro license for a few years and another 1-2 years with down wouldn't do any harm.

He would likely have it by now if covid hadn't interrupted his progress.

Think the logic in him moving will come down to what always wins.....money.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rosnarun on November 11, 2021, 03:10:42 PM
no way would Mcguiness risj he 'best manager ever'  reputation by taking on another county job un less it would be a no-lose one like louyh, Leitrim or sligo
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Taylor on November 24, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
James McCartan back with Down.
Has Aidan ORourke for company this time
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on November 24, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: Taylor on November 24, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
James McCartan back with Down.
Has Aidan ORourke for company this time

Is that not who he had last time too?

I wish them well but McCartan was county minor manager last year and his highly fancied team imploded v Fermanagh. He then gets handed the senior job? Interesting approach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oakleaflad on November 24, 2021, 02:47:03 PM
Quote from: ck on November 24, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: Taylor on November 24, 2021, 01:10:21 PM
James McCartan back with Down.
Has Aidan ORourke for company this time

Is that not who he had last time too?

I wish them well but McCartan was county minor manager last year and his highly fancied team imploded v Fermanagh. He then gets handed the senior job? Interesting approach.
Only in their own heads though to be fair. The Derry team won that won the All Ireland won all the equivalent Ulster underage tournaments coming through. Down didn't make a final and wouldn't have been seen as their main opposition. They'd one excellent club team but that doesn't necessarily transition to county success.

That being said the move does seem in a bit of a panic as it's getting late at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Loughlin. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 30, 2021, 09:03:05 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.

Thoughts on that appointment, a preferred chose among Longford supporters?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2021, 09:52:32 PM
He was involved with DIT for a good while
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/1130/1264105-billy-oloughlin-appointed-longford-football-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.

A nephew of Luke Dempsey.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on December 01, 2021, 03:56:33 PM
Two time All Ireland winning hurling manager Liam Sheedy to join Monaghan footballers as a performance coach. They have some backroom team assembled now.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40755840.html

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 01, 2021, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 01, 2021, 03:56:33 PM
Two time All Ireland winning hurling manager Liam Sheedy to join Monaghan footballers as a performance coach. They have some backroom team assembled now.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40755840.html

Suprised Donie Buckley is still on board. He was linked to a number of counties including a return to Kerry which suggested he had left Monaghan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on December 01, 2021, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 01, 2021, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 01, 2021, 03:56:33 PM
Two time All Ireland winning hurling manager Liam Sheedy to join Monaghan footballers as a performance coach. They have some backroom team assembled now.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40755840.html

Suprised Donie Buckley is still on board. He was linked to a number of counties including a return to Kerry which suggested he had left Monaghan.

The Banty has some pot of gold on him. Getting out of hand now the merry go round of mercenaries who have no loyalty to the club or county.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on December 01, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.

A nephew of Luke Dempsey.

Former Mayo footballer Aidan Kilcoyne is part of the backroom team  - coach I think.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 01, 2021, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 01, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.

A nephew of Luke Dempsey.

Former Mayo footballer Aidan Kilcoyne is part of the backroom team  - coach I think.

Goalkeeping coach I believe.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 01, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.

A nephew of Luke Dempsey.

Former Mayo footballer Aidan Kilcoyne is part of the backroom team  - coach I think.

Kilcoyne is goalkeeper coach. I thought he mostly played outfield? I know played with Knockmore in goal towards end of his career .
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Silver hill on December 01, 2021, 10:50:27 PM
If you have enough brass in your neck, you can be whatever you want these days it would appear.
Some amount of chancers on the gravy train.
S&c coach or performance manager seems to be the go to one
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 01, 2021, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 01, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.

A nephew of Luke Dempsey.

Former Mayo footballer Aidan Kilcoyne is part of the backroom team  - coach I think.

Kilcoyne is goalkeeper coach. I thought he mostly played outfield? I know played with Knockmore in goal towards end of his career .

Was the main scoring forward on the Mayo 2006 U21 All Ireland winning team. Played a few years as a forward for Mayo seniors. A serious knee injury finished his outfield career in 2013.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on December 03, 2021, 01:20:51 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 01, 2021, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on December 01, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2021, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 30, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2021, 08:59:30 PM
Billy O'Farrell. A Laois man now Longford's manager.
Billy O'Loughlin you mean.


Apols - yes. My mistake.

I don't know much about him - but I think it's better to get a young lad, hopefully, on the way up, than a serial manager on the way down.

A nephew of Luke Dempsey.

Former Mayo footballer Aidan Kilcoyne is part of the backroom team  - coach I think.

Kilcoyne is goalkeeper coach. I thought he mostly played outfield? I know played with Knockmore in goal towards end of his career .

Was the main scoring forward on the Mayo 2006 U21 All Ireland winning team. Played a few years as a forward for Mayo seniors. A serious knee injury finished his outfield career in 2013.

He got a good run with Mayo in 09. Remember him getting a couple goals.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on December 18, 2021, 02:03:34 AM
Oisin McConville and Bumpy O'Hagan to take over the Armagh U-20s, subject to ratification at the next county board meeting.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: hoynevalley on February 28, 2022, 08:53:40 PM
Clan na nGael looking for a new GPO.  ;)

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/322331
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on March 01, 2022, 08:45:23 PM
Colin Kelly has left Wicklow, citing work reasons.

https://t.co/ngCsHONoeQ
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oliverkelly on March 02, 2022, 04:36:30 PM
Quote from: hoynevalley on February 28, 2022, 08:53:40 PM
Clan na nGael looking for a new GPO.  ;)

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/322331

Wasn't really a surprise he stepped down, It was a surprise he was reappointed. When he heard a few of the panel were going travelling and another half dozen wouldn't play under him he had no choice but to step down
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 08, 2022, 01:13:15 PM
Mickey Moran stepped down last night as Kilcoo manager. Always good to go out on a high
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on May 30, 2022, 01:35:02 PM
Any thoughts on who will take on the Meath job next year?

I think we need to look outside the county and get someone who is in tune with current training and S&C standards.

Malachy O'Rourke might be a good option. Eamon Fitzmaurice has an All Ireland to his name as a coach but not sure if he's up to the task that Meath would present.

Perhaps picking a manager in a top club in Dublin like St Vincent's or Kilmacud might be the most realistic option but that's essentially what Andy McEntee was.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on May 30, 2022, 01:40:25 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 30, 2022, 01:35:02 PM
Any thoughts on who will take on the Meath job next year?

I think we need to look outside the county and get someone who is in tune with current training and S&C standards.

Malachy O'Rourke might be a good option. Eamon Fitzmaurice has an All Ireland to his name as a coach but not sure if he's up to the task that Meath would present.

Perhaps picking a manager in a top club in Dublin like St Vincent's or Kilmacud might be the most realistic option but that's essentially what Andy McEntee was.

The Kilmacud Crokes manager Robbie Brennan lives in Dunboyne.  Think he was selector with Meath minors this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on May 30, 2022, 03:33:07 PM
Good shout on Robbie but I think he could be one for the future rather next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on June 06, 2022, 09:32:43 PM
Enda McGinley stepped down from Antrim last week and Enda McEntee is gone from Meath today.

Seems fierce early in the year for it but another by-product of the split season.

There will surely be a few more joining them before too long you'd imagine.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on June 06, 2022, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 06, 2022, 09:32:43 PM
Enda McGinley stepped down from Antrim last week and Enda McEntee is gone from Meath today.

Seems fierce early in the year for it but another by-product of the split season.

There will surely be a few more joining them before too long you'd imagine.

I presume you meant Andy McEntee. Took the team two steps forward and was there to see them go two steps back. Not often a Manager brings a team forward and leaves them in the same or worse state to the their original state when he leaves.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on June 06, 2022, 11:12:33 PM
I see members of McEntees family on twitter calling out the vile abuse he's been taking from people. Twitter trolls, letters sent to his house etc.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on June 07, 2022, 12:03:11 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 06, 2022, 11:12:33 PM
I see members of McEntees family on twitter calling out the vile abuse he's been taking from people. Twitter trolls, letters sent to his house etc.

Yeah, those fools don't know how much Dublin football can chew you up and spit you out. They're still living in the '80's and '90's.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on June 09, 2022, 02:36:54 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0609/1303840-meath-air-disgust-at-abuse-aimed-at-its-members/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on June 09, 2022, 09:14:56 PM
Yeah, it's been pretty depressing on social media the last few weeks. Some People just going after Andy and his son Shane, not giving opinions but just making personal jibes and allegations without having a clue about football. The same people think we can just parachute one of the 80's legends into the job and suddenly we'll be grand back to winning all Ireland's again playing "real football".
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on June 09, 2022, 09:35:26 PM
Didn't Andy threaten a Meath Chronicle reporter for doing his job? People and glass houses.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on June 10, 2022, 07:05:17 AM
He didn't threaten him. He got annoyed at a dumb question asked after one of the Dublin games about players being released from the panel for club hurling which was a bit of a thorny issue locally.

It's a long way from personally abusing someone via internet or mailing them. What psycho actually does that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on June 10, 2022, 08:10:17 AM
Quote from: thejuice on June 10, 2022, 07:05:17 AM
He didn't threaten him. He got annoyed at a dumb question asked after one of the Dublin games about players being released from the panel for club hurling which was a bit of a thorny issue locally.

It's a long way from personally abusing someone via internet or mailing them. What psycho actually does that.

He told the journalist he'd take the head of him. That's not a threat? Also he was very dismissive of LMFM journalists too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on June 11, 2022, 11:32:40 AM
Interview with Andy McEntee on Newstalk, now up on their podcasts.

Mostly bad news re certain performances, certain unnamed county board officials and nasty letters received, but a nice moment towards the end when he was talking about Meath supporters.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on June 27, 2022, 10:49:08 AM
Update
I think it's currently  Antrim, Meath, Monaghan and Mayowestros vacant.
Ros, Donegal, Offaly and possibly Clare to join them???
Rumours here AC has no intention of stepping down and no whispers of player unrest.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on June 27, 2022, 10:55:43 AM
Banty got a new 4 year deal with 1 year extension on the table. Currently mulling it over with his back room team . Said it may take a few months before he gets to speak to all 40 of them but he reckons he's got unfinished business!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 27, 2022, 05:30:16 PM
James Horan gone from Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on June 27, 2022, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 27, 2022, 05:30:16 PM
James Horan gone from Mayo.

He has once again left a rebuilt panel behind for the next manager to take over not the same talent and leadership as was left behind in 2014 however.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on June 29, 2022, 01:30:43 PM
Banty gone?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on June 29, 2022, 02:00:14 PM
Likewise Schkite
Didn't think he would fall on his sword but am delighted he has
Next appointment needs to be realistic for Monaghan- someone prepared to go back to go forward
Not a media hoor that's a fist pumping , empty the tank , stonewall penalty merchant but a proper strategic thinker who can make the most of the hand he's got

I wonder who has got in the Bantys ear ????
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 02:01:00 PM
I think that could be the start of a slippery slope for Monaghan now, they could be facing several player retirements soon also with an ageing side. They had some run of it given where they began from first under Banty and then O'Rourke and Banty again. I'd say the biggest regret they will have is not getting to an AI final particularly that year against Tyrone in 2018. They were never going to beat the Dubs but they could have got to a final.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Banty hit the wall this year. He couldn't bring Monaghan any further.
It is the same thing in Mayo. New thinking required.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sleater on June 29, 2022, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 02:01:00 PM
I think that could be the start of a slippery slope for Monaghan now, they could be facing several player retirements soon also with an ageing side. They had some run of it given where they began from first under Banty and then O'Rourke and Banty again. I'd say the biggest regret they will have is not getting to an AI final particularly that year against Tyrone in 2018. They were never going to beat the Dubs but they could have got to a final.

I thought Banty would be a shoe-in for another term, not that I would have agreed with that so yeah it's a major surprise he walked. Banty is a Proud Monaghan man but he never convinced in terms of tactics and motivating the team. Darren Hughes and Conor McManus have already gone on record this year in 2 separate podcasts that they will be back for 2023. Nevertheless 8 players from current squad are 32 or older and there is going to be a considerable void to be filled when they leave over the next 2 years. I would expect at least 4 retirements this year, maybe more. So the timing is right for a new manager to come in and build the team in their image. I firmly believe that the talent is there and very encouraged by the young players that have been coming through under age ranks in the past few years. It was disheartening that they were not being given the trust to build on. It would be no surprise if Monaghan drop down a division and rebuild from there.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2022, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Banty hit the wall this year. He couldn't bring Monaghan any further.
It is the same thing in Mayo. New thinking required.

Add Donegal to that, but no word of anything yet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 29, 2022, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Banty hit the wall this year. He couldn't bring Monaghan any further.
It is the same thing in Mayo. New thinking required.

Add Donegal to that, but no word of anything yet.

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 29, 2022, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Banty hit the wall this year. He couldn't bring Monaghan any further.
It is the same thing in Mayo. New thinking required.
Horan was brought back because he did a decent job the first time. Banty was brought back because....?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 29, 2022, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Banty hit the wall this year. He couldn't bring Monaghan any further.
It is the same thing in Mayo. New thinking required.
Horan was brought back because he did a decent job the first time. Banty was brought back because....?

Still wondering that ourselves
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on June 29, 2022, 06:02:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 29, 2022, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 29, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Surprised Banty walked to be honest, but I'm not displeased at that
Banty hit the wall this year. He couldn't bring Monaghan any further.
It is the same thing in Mayo. New thinking required.

Add Donegal to that, but no word of anything yet.

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I heard Eamonn McGee talking recently about the pool of candidates these days being severely reduced because of the insane demands of the job.

He said he himself was approached to be a selector or something and his wife said no f**king way as their kids are still young and she needs him about.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on June 29, 2022, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P


I watched Tyrone games this year, there appeared to be very little sideline communication in the Tyrone camp. I got the feeling all was not well between the two managers.
But that is only my observation,  nothing more.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2022, 08:24:14 PM
Banty wrote a classy farewell

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0629/1307521-mcenaney-steps-down-as-monaghan-boss/

"The Monaghan players are a very special bunch of men who have been fantastic ambassadors for the people of Monaghan in the past and during my term as manager. I have no doubt that they will continue to represent this great county with pride and distinction into the future.
"Managing Monaghan has been one of the great privileges and honours of my life"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on June 29, 2022, 08:57:42 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 29, 2022, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P


I watched Tyrone games this year, there appeared to be very little sideline communication in the Tyrone camp. I got the feeling all was not well between the two managers.
But that is only my observation,  nothing more.

Know both men. Absolutely nothing in this.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on June 29, 2022, 11:19:51 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on June 29, 2022, 08:57:42 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 29, 2022, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P


I watched Tyrone games this year, there appeared to be very little sideline communication in the Tyrone camp. I got the feeling all was not well between the two managers.
But that is only my observation,  nothing more.

Know both men. Absolutely nothing in this.


Fair enough.
It was just an observation  of my own.
And have heard nothing at all to reinforces.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on June 29, 2022, 11:33:02 PM
Leitrim county board confirmed tonight that Andy Moran will stay on as their senior manager for another two years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on June 30, 2022, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P

Whatever else they do, Dooher and Logan will have been a success. However they are both busy men with careers away from GAA and this is bound to impact on their ability to give the job the time that is required at that level. Combine that with the player drop outs and indiscipline of this season and nobody could really blame them for walking away.

As far as Banty is concerned it wouldn't surprise me if he got back on the merry go round somewhere else. Perhaps Mayo or Donegal if it became available.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2022, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 30, 2022, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P

Whatever else they do, Dooher and Logan will have been a success. However they are both busy men with careers away from GAA and this is bound to impact on their ability to give the job the time that is required at that level. Combine that with the player drop outs and indiscipline of this season and nobody could really blame them for walking away.
...

Pure idle speculation, nothing more than that: they both knew the demands of team management before taking those reins; the seven squad "defectors"  ;) was down to those individuals, and nothing much management could have done; with the All-Ireland winning U20s coming on stream over the next while they'll not be short of panel options.

All in all, I'd say there's zero chance of them quitting in the foreseeable.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on June 30, 2022, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 30, 2022, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P

Whatever else they do, Dooher and Logan will have been a success. However they are both busy men with careers away from GAA and this is bound to impact on their ability to give the job the time that is required at that level. Combine that with the player drop outs and indiscipline of this season and nobody could really blame them for walking away.

As far as Banty is concerned it wouldn't surprise me if he got back on the merry go round somewhere else. Perhaps Mayo or Donegal if it became available.

I'd say lads get a bit of burn out if they're going for 2 or 3 years flat out. Maybe the shorter season will help that now and re-calibrate things.

It is a full time job and very time consuming. Surely they couldn't do their main job properly but they seem to get by. Maybe a teacher or businessman could do it but it must be hard. They have a team to manage and a staff of up to 25 to manage off the park. A lot happening.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 30, 2022, 12:36:49 PM
Mayo are waiting until Monday to put in place a commitee of some sort to replace Horan. The new appointment ultimately will have to be ratified by club delegates.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Halfquarter on June 30, 2022, 01:04:17 PM
Maybe , Holmes and Connelly will make a comeback for Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 01, 2022, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 30, 2022, 01:35:02 PM
Any thoughts on who will take on the Meath job next year?

I think we need to look outside the county and get someone who is in tune with current training and S&C standards.

Malachy O'Rourke might be a good option. Eamon Fitzmaurice has an All Ireland to his name as a coach but not sure if he's up to the task that Meath would present.

Perhaps picking a manager in a top club in Dublin like St Vincent's or Kilmacud might be the most realistic option but that's essentially what Andy McEntee was.

I've a suggestion for Meath. Kevin Walsh. He's a regular guest on the Examiner podcast and from listening to that I think he'd be quite interested in a reviving-a-sleeping-giant project.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trueblue1234 on July 05, 2022, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 30, 2022, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 30, 2022, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 29, 2022, 05:22:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
...

So Antrim and Monaghan are definites for a new manager. Probables are Down and Donegal but still no word from either county. Tyrone is the other one where it wouldn't really surprise me if they step down.

I'll have a puff of whatever you're smoking there, please.  :P

Whatever else they do, Dooher and Logan will have been a success. However they are both busy men with careers away from GAA and this is bound to impact on their ability to give the job the time that is required at that level. Combine that with the player drop outs and indiscipline of this season and nobody could really blame them for walking away.
...

Pure idle speculation, nothing more than that: they both knew the demands of team management before taking those reins; the seven squad "defectors"  ;) was down to those individuals, and nothing much management could have done; with the All-Ireland winning U20s coming on stream over the next while they'll not be short of panel options.

All in all, I'd say there's zero chance of them quitting in the foreseeable.
TBH Fear I can't believe all 7 went for purely individual reasons. Maybe 1,2 or even 3. But 7 from an AI winning side? I think there's more to it. But just my opinion.

Edit* I should also say that it's not a direct dig at the management team. It's a tough position and very difficult to keep everyone happy all of the time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: God14 on July 05, 2022, 11:46:17 AM
Scratch the surface on these defections, its really a non story. At least 4 of the defections were entirely expected and plausible.
HP McGeary – saw limited game time in 2021. Didn't make the 26 on AI final day.  Some younger lads like Cormac Munroe & Conor Shields had also overtaken him on the perceived ladder. Also think he is living in Co Down now.
Ronan O'Neill - – saw limited game time in 2021. Didn't make the 26 on AI final day. Saw forwards like McShane & D Canavan spring off the bench to massive effect. Self evaluated the situation & realized he wouldn't have seen much game time in 2022. Too many better players ahead of him
Michael Cassidy – dogged by injuries. Hasn't played for his club Ardboe in 18+ months. Would not have seen 1 minute of action in 2022 had he stayed on the panel.
Lee Brennan – didn't see any championship action in 2021. Self evaluated the situation & realized he wouldn't have seen much game time in 2022 if he stuck around. Too many better options ahead of him
The 3 id have been disappointed with would be
Tiernan McCann – solderied for a long time. Got his AI medal. Clearly frustrated at not being an automatic starter. Well documented on recent podcast with Wooly.
Mark Bradley – clearly frustrated at not being automatic starter. Still has loads to offer.
Paul Donaghy – an enigma. Given plenty of opportunities in 2022 & knew he hadn't taken them. Still one for the future, but lots to improve on his game. He is short of the required standard at the present time
Those 3 perhaps wouldn't have been starters, but they could have been serious options from the bench, and pushed the starting 15 on a hell of a lot more in training
Is 3 defections a reason to suspect management? Dooher & Logan have won all Irelands at U21 and Senior. They've had a poor year, but id still argue they are at least equal to any other management team in Ireland.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trueblue1234 on July 05, 2022, 12:03:05 PM
 I think we struggled to keep the fringe players as happy as previous years. And when suspensions/ injuries came we were looking at a very light subs bench. McCann, Bradley and Brennan are 3 that I think if managed right should have been back out. Potentially Donaghy as well.
As I said it's impossible to say for sure, perhaps these players might have jumped ship anyway. But for me it's too many at the one time to be a coincidence. IMO.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: CK_Redhand on July 05, 2022, 08:41:04 PM
Bradley, Brennan and Ronan O'Neill had plenty of chances. None had the consistency of McCurry who had his best season last year. To be honest I wasn't surprised or disappointed any of these left.

Agree on TMcCann and PDonaghy, both had something more to offer.

Anyways, I don't think it says much about management.  Next year we'll know better if there is a bounce back or a further slide.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Dessie Farrell to be added to the scrapheap I'm sure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on July 10, 2022, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Dessie Farrell to be added to the scrapheap I'm sure.

Dessie might survive given the lack of other obvious candidates given he is such a political animal.

If I had to guess I would say he will get a 2 year term.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 10, 2022, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Dessie Farrell to be added to the scrapheap I'm sure.
I think he has the same job as Shane O'Neill had with the Galway hurlers. Blend in younger players for 2 or 3 years while the team transitions and then hand over to someone who will win titles.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on July 10, 2022, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2022, 05:52:18 PM
Dessie Farrell to be added to the scrapheap I'm sure.

Some turnaround from the league though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 10, 2022, 11:13:37 PM
Doubtful if Dessie Farrell will be Dublin manager again next year. Won the behind closed doors AI in his first year yet since then relegated to Div 2 and not reaching the All Ireland final the last two years and of course he may step aside himself
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2022, 11:13:37 PM
Doubtful if Dessie Farrell will be Dublin manager again next year. Won the behind closed doors AI in his first year yet since then relegated to Div 2 and not reaching the All Ireland final the last two years and of course he may step aside himself

Dessie will get another year or two. It rebuild job. We lost 16 of 2019 panel. Cooper, McCarthy, Mick Fitz and Rock haven't long left. Fenton and Kilkenny past their peak now. We had two u20 teams that lost in 2019 and 2020. About 16 players from them groups played OBC and little big of league. I expect to see a lot of them playing in D2 next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
Andy McEntee new Antrim manager by all accounts
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2022, 11:13:37 PM
Doubtful if Dessie Farrell will be Dublin manager again next year. Won the behind closed doors AI in his first year yet since then relegated to Div 2 and not reaching the All Ireland final the last two years and of course he may step aside himself

Dessie will get another year or two. It rebuild job. We lost 16 of 2019 panel. Cooper, McCarthy, Mick Fitz and Rock haven't long left. Fenton and Kilkenny past their peak now. We had two u20 teams that lost in 2019 and 2020. About 16 players from them groups played OBC and little big of league. I expect to see a lot of them playing in D2 next year.

Of the 15 that started the 2019 replay those no longer there are Cluxton,McCaffrey,Paul Mannion. Obviously Cluxton is done at his age now but perhaps could have got another year or two out of him while would the other two make themselves available under another manager or have simply had enough of county football and the commitment level Dublin demand?

What has become weaker from that match 3 years ago is the bench, back then Diarmuid Connolly,, Philly McMahon, Cian O'Sullivan,Kevin McManamon, Michael Darragh MacAuley to bring on. Yesterday those type of options wasn't there.

Its going to be a full rebuild now for Dublin over the next 2 to 3 years and is Dessie Farrell the right man for that task?   of two u20 teams that lost AI finals in 2019 and 2020 at least 3 or 4 of them should be established championship starters now but i think (open to correction) only Lee Gannon is.

Galway lost the U21 All Ireland final to Dublin by a bit to spare in 2017 yet Galway have got any many senior players out of that U21 team a suggestion that Dublin aren't nurturing and developing their underage talent as good as they use to.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on July 11, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
Andy McEntee new Antrim manager by all accounts

Best of luck to Andy. Think he'll do well though he was all set to give up management only a few weeks ago.

Talks of an Eamon Fitzmaurice/Bernard Flynn management team in Meath but only rumours at the minute.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 11, 2022, 03:52:16 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
Andy McEntee new Antrim manager by all accounts

The merry go round continues. Next up Banty for Dublin, Mickey Moran for Down, John Maughan for Monaghan and Big Sam for Meath.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: pbat on July 11, 2022, 03:57:17 PM
Quote from: thejuice on July 11, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
Andy McEntee new Antrim manager by all accounts

Best of luck to Andy. Think he'll do well though he was all set to give up management only a few weeks ago.

Talks of an Eamon Fitzmaurice/Bernard Flynn management team in Meath but only rumours at the minute.

Does Eamon Fitz still teach in Dingle?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 11, 2022, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: pbat on July 11, 2022, 03:57:17 PM
Quote from: thejuice on July 11, 2022, 03:46:07 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 11, 2022, 01:56:01 PM
Andy McEntee new Antrim manager by all accounts

Best of luck to Andy. Think he'll do well though he was all set to give up management only a few weeks ago.

Talks of an Eamon Fitzmaurice/Bernard Flynn management team in Meath but only rumours at the minute.

Does Eamon Fitz still teach in Dingle?

Is he not the Principal?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 08:08:58 PM
A friend of from Kerry reckons Peter Keane is in contention for Mayo job. Kevin McStay interested and has lined up Stephen Rochford to be in his backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 11, 2022, 08:45:25 PM
How the hell does Cody do it?

24 years or something this year - unreal.

Image coaching a father and son to an All-Ireland Final.  8)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on July 11, 2022, 11:02:58 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 08:08:58 PM
A friend of from Kerry reckons Peter Keane is in contention for Mayo job. Kevin McStay interested and has lined up Stephen Rochford to be in his backroom team.
Not a chance on Keane I'd say. Too far and he has a business to run. Plus hes never really done anything except minor. County board want Solan it seems, Dempsey if he has a right mgmt team with him is probably the best choice given that we've had a good record of lads transferring club success to county success. Knockmore were nowhere for a long time and hes heading for 3 in a row next season and he has no real superstars on that team except Kevin McLoughlin who is coming to the end of his time
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 11, 2022, 11:50:35 PM
Antrim County Board twitter

We are delighted to announce that Andy McEntee has been ratified as the new Antrim Senior Football Manager on a 3-year term. Andy brings a wealth of management experience at the top tier of both Club and County football.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on July 12, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
I like this Andy McEntee Antrim appointment. A bit of a coup for Antrim and sends out a serious message. Finally they seem to be getting their act together.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 12, 2022, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 12, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
I like this Andy McEntee Antrim appointment. A bit of a coup for Antrim and sends out a serious message. Finally they seem to be getting their act together.

Needs the buy in from everyone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 12, 2022, 04:15:39 PM
Sligo reappointing their McEntee.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2022, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 12, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
I like this Andy McEntee Antrim appointment. A bit of a coup for Antrim and sends out a serious message. Finally they seem to be getting their act together.

Any more of coup for Antrim than Enda McGinley was meant to be when appointed?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: highorlow on July 13, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
Maughan gone from Offaly
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2022, 02:44:35 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 13, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
Maughan gone from Offaly
They didn't have a great year. Relegated from D2 and well beaten at the Tailteann semifinal stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 13, 2022, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 13, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
Maughan gone from Offaly

And looks like Tomás Ó Sé will be his replacement. Probably Maughan final inter County gig a long time at it some amount of milage built up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on July 13, 2022, 04:25:02 PM
Bonner decision coming next week. No word on what it will be though.

Last year he was renewed because no one else was put forward.

Rochford is apparently leaving.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/07/13/news/bonner_could_step_down_from_donegal_next_week-2771018/ (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/07/13/news/bonner_could_step_down_from_donegal_next_week-2771018/)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: iorras on July 15, 2022, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2022, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 13, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
Maughan gone from Offaly

And looks like Tomás Ó Sé will be his replacement. Probably Maughan final inter County gig a long time at it some amount of milage built up.
Hes only the same age as Jack O'Connor
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2022, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: iorras on July 15, 2022, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 13, 2022, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 13, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
Maughan gone from Offaly

And looks like Tomás Ó Sé will be his replacement. Probably Maughan final inter County gig a long time at it some amount of milage built up.
Hes only the same age as Jack O'Connor

Not so much about age but the mileage and pressures/strain that comes with senior county management.  Maughan's first senior county gig was in the early 90s and Jack O'Connor 2003.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on July 15, 2022, 02:18:36 PM
Liam Cahill gone from Waterford. Can only imagine taking up the Tipperary job. Derek McGrath or Davy Fitz for the Waterford job possibly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: didlyi on July 15, 2022, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: Helix. on July 15, 2022, 02:18:36 PM
Liam Cahill gone from Waterford. Can only imagine taking up the Tipperary job. Derek McGrath or Davy Fitz for the Waterford job possibly.

Davy or Dell. Cant decide which would be worse for Waterford.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on July 15, 2022, 03:06:33 PM
Quote from: didlyi on July 15, 2022, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: Helix. on July 15, 2022, 02:18:36 PM
Liam Cahill gone from Waterford. Can only imagine taking up the Tipperary job. Derek McGrath or Davy Fitz for the Waterford job possibly.

Davy or Dell. Cant decide which would be worse for Waterford.

both over-analyse IMO, a bit like Cork, too restricted to a certain, rigid gameplan when everyone else is working to live in the chaos of a game.

Donal O'g dip his toes into intercounty management??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on July 15, 2022, 03:12:08 PM
Quote from: Helix. on July 15, 2022, 02:18:36 PM
Liam Cahill gone from Waterford. Can only imagine taking up the Tipperary job. Derek McGrath or Davy Fitz for the Waterford job possibly.

Cahill fell out with the Bennetts. Was also talk of been over trained prior to championship.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 15, 2022, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2022, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 12, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
I like this Andy McEntee Antrim appointment. A bit of a coup for Antrim and sends out a serious message. Finally they seem to be getting their act together.

Any more of coup for Antrim than Enda McGinley was meant to be when appointed?

I'm a bit bemused by the positivity around this appointment. Don't see it working.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 15, 2022, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: highorlow on July 13, 2022, 12:45:51 PM
Maughan gone from Offaly

Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2022, 04:25:02 PM
Rochford is apparently leaving

To manage Mayo? ;D.

Crossmolina dream team with Peadar Gardiner and Ciaran Mac. :P
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on July 16, 2022, 06:54:17 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 15, 2022, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2022, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 12, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
I like this Andy McEntee Antrim appointment. A bit of a coup for Antrim and sends out a serious message. Finally they seem to be getting their act together.

Any more of coup for Antrim than Enda McGinley was meant to be when appointed?

I'm a bit bemused by the positivity around this appointment. Don't see it working.

It's hard to say. I think Andy is certainly a good manager and it'll be interesting for us to see how he gets on in another county and province. The only surprise is he was emphatic about walking away from county management in any interview he had since leaving the Meath job for family and work. However I know he was doing a few things for BBCNI and I guess someone approached him then.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 18, 2022, 04:38:43 PM
Shane Roche Wexford football manager stepping down.
Still no word or whispers  from our camp re Anthony C's situation.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on July 20, 2022, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

He never really got them over the line. Lost most of the big games they played. Fermanagh next?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: God14 on July 20, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Malachy O'Rourke bound to be tempted at that role. Donegal have the talent if they can just harness it.
Murphy will depart under the next managers tenure but i thought there were some really excellent forwards in their U20 side earlier this year.
Im convinced had they got past Tyrone they would have won the U20 All Ireland

Serious potential for Donegal if they get this appointment right.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: God14 on July 20, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Malachy O'Rourke bound to be tempted at that role. Donegal have the talent if they can just harness it.
Murphy will depart under the next managers tenure but i thought there were some really excellent forwards in their U20 side earlier this year.
Im convinced had they got past Tyrone they would have won the U20 All Ireland

Serious potential for Donegal if they get this appointment right.

Keelan  Dunleavey and Bobby McGettigan was the stand out forwards for Donegal U20s will be interesting to see can they make the step to senior.  Malachy O'Rourke would look like a good fit for Donegal if he makes himself available.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on July 20, 2022, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Looked to be going places in the beginning. But got more and more scared of throwing off the shackles as his tenure proceeded.
Fear of losing got the better of him in the end.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Turf on July 20, 2022, 05:54:57 PM
Some rumours about that Brian Cody might be calling it a day.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on July 20, 2022, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

As expected. It was time for a change in direction as we were drifting badly.

Declan will go down as a Donegal legend though. Owes the county nothing.

Next appointment will be interesting, and vital. No idea who.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Insider on July 21, 2022, 02:28:54 AM
Billy O Loughlin stepped down from Longford citing work pressure. Currently in the USA
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Onthe40 on July 21, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: God14 on July 20, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Malachy O'Rourke bound to be tempted at that role. Donegal have the talent if they can just harness it.
Murphy will depart under the next managers tenure but i thought there were some really excellent forwards in their U20 side earlier this year.
Im convinced had they got past Tyrone they would have won the U20 All Ireland

Serious potential for Donegal if they get this appointment right.


Keelan  Dunleavey and Bobby McGettigan was the stand out forwards for Donegal U20s will be interesting to see can they make the step to senior.  Malachy O'Rourke would look like a good fit for Donegal if he makes himself available.

Getting serious coin at Glen and less pressure
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on July 21, 2022, 04:54:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2022, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Looked to be going places in the beginning. But got more and more scared of throwing off the shackles as his tenure proceeded.
Fear of losing got the better of him in the end.

That 2020 loss to Cavan changed something in the mindset.

They'd been playing nice, open football throughout his tenure up to that point, but for the second year in a row, when the chips were down, they were physically outworked and outfought by a team that simply wanted it more.

Since then it's been brutal to watch, even arguably in games they won. Just tentative, risk-averse, mediocrity.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 21, 2022, 08:47:52 PM
It was a natural conclusion. But Declan B kept Donegal solidly a Div 1/Top 8 team. At same time, you'd never feel Declan's Donegal would trouble Kerry or Dublin last couple of years.

It's a big job in a county who has won the All-Ireland in the last 10 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 21, 2022, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 21, 2022, 08:47:52 PM
It was a natural conclusion. But Declan B kept Donegal solidly a Div 1/Top 8 team. At same time, you'd never feel Declan's Donegal would trouble Kerry or Dublin last couple of years.

It's a big job in a county who has won the All-Ireland in the last 10 years.

Yeah, attractive enough job I think.

Good players and a bit of potential.

A lot of managers/coaches would be interested you'd think.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Silver hill on July 21, 2022, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 21, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: God14 on July 20, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Malachy O'Rourke bound to be tempted at that role. Donegal have the talent if they can just harness it.
Murphy will depart under the next managers tenure but i thought there were some really excellent forwards in their U20 side earlier this year.
Im convinced had they got past Tyrone they would have won the U20 All Ireland

Serious potential for Donegal if they get this appointment right.


Keelan  Dunleavey and Bobby McGettigan was the stand out forwards for Donegal U20s will be interesting to see can they make the step to senior.  Malachy O'Rourke would look like a good fit for Donegal if he makes himself available.

Getting serious coin at Glen and less pressure

...has O'rourke told you this personal or is that just another sweeping assumption on your behalf?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tonto1888 on July 22, 2022, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 21, 2022, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 21, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: God14 on July 20, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Malachy O'Rourke bound to be tempted at that role. Donegal have the talent if they can just harness it.
Murphy will depart under the next managers tenure but i thought there were some really excellent forwards in their U20 side earlier this year.
Im convinced had they got past Tyrone they would have won the U20 All Ireland

Serious potential for Donegal if they get this appointment right.


Keelan  Dunleavey and Bobby McGettigan was the stand out forwards for Donegal U20s will be interesting to see can they make the step to senior.  Malachy O'Rourke would look like a good fit for Donegal if he makes himself available.

Getting serious coin at Glen and less pressure

...has O'rourke told you this personal or is that just another sweeping assumption on your behalf?

Ive often wondered how people "know" what club managers are getting paid
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: clubman21 on July 22, 2022, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 22, 2022, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 21, 2022, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Onthe40 on July 21, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: God14 on July 20, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2022, 03:00:56 PM
Declan Bonner has stepped down as Donegal manager.

Malachy O'Rourke bound to be tempted at that role. Donegal have the talent if they can just harness it.
Murphy will depart under the next managers tenure but i thought there were some really excellent forwards in their U20 side earlier this year.
Im convinced had they got past Tyrone they would have won the U20 All Ireland

Serious potential for Donegal if they get this appointment right.


Keelan  Dunleavey and Bobby McGettigan was the stand out forwards for Donegal U20s will be interesting to see can they make the step to senior.  Malachy O'Rourke would look like a good fit for Donegal if he makes himself available.

Getting serious coin at Glen and less pressure

...has O'rourke told you this personal or is that just another sweeping assumption on your behalf?

Ive often wondered how people "know" what club managers are getting paid
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Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 22, 2022, 04:57:13 PM
Cork appoint John Cleary for 3 years.
Hope Keith Ricken can overcome his health issues.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on July 22, 2022, 10:29:51 PM
A lot of rumours Dessie gone from Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on July 22, 2022, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 22, 2022, 04:57:13 PM
Cork appoint John Cleary for 3 years.
Hope Keith Ricken can overcome his health issues.

Good luck to Keith, health is wealth.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: sans pessimism on July 23, 2022, 09:52:57 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 22, 2022, 10:29:51 PM
A lot of rumours Dessie gone from Dublin.
Declan Darcy to be the new boss apparantly
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 23, 2022, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: Rudi on July 22, 2022, 11:10:21 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 22, 2022, 04:57:13 PM
Cork appoint John Cleary for 3 years.
Hope Keith Ricken can overcome his health issues.

Good luck to Keith, health is wealth.

Very true. A lot of pressure comes with a role as an intercounty manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 23, 2022, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 22, 2022, 10:29:51 PM
A lot of rumours Dessie gone from Dublin.
New Ros manager if a vacancy arises?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: laoislad on July 23, 2022, 02:11:36 PM
Cody gone.
Greatest GAA manager ever? I reckon so.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 23, 2022, 02:17:49 PM
Huge influence on KK. Driven and ruthless.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 23, 2022, 02:22:04 PM
Before him, Cork were top of the leaderboard. Since 98 , Cork won 3 and Kilkenny 11. Unbelievable, Jeff
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 23, 2022, 02:22:54 PM
The facts don't lie, his record will stand the test of time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 23, 2022, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 23, 2022, 02:11:36 PM
Cody gone.
Greatest GAA manager ever? I reckon so.
Whatever the sport there has been few better managers. Know it was rumoured but still a little surprised he stepped down when Kilkenny look like the main challenger again next year.

Incredible contribution to hurling best wishes to Cody on retirement.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on July 23, 2022, 07:08:40 PM
What an inspirational man with an amazing legacy. Even the spat with Henry Shefflin had you admiring him for having the balls to be like that despite what his club mate had went through this year. Would be amazing to hear the story behind that at some stage. Hopefully another book in the future. Until then happy retirement to the legend that is Brian Cody.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2022, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 23, 2022, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: laoislad on July 23, 2022, 02:11:36 PM
Cody gone.
Greatest GAA manager ever? I reckon so.
Whatever the sport there has been few better managers. Know it was rumoured but still a little surprised he stepped down when Kilkenny look like the main challenger again next year.

Incredible contribution to hurling best wishes to Cody on retirement.

You take Reid out of it and kk probably a good bit off. Reid 35 and probably only another year or two.

Cody and shefflin not club mates..
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 23, 2022, 07:27:47 PM
Cody saw off everyone except Limerick. His revenge for self declared slights was legendary. Galway hammered KK in 05  but revenge was delivered in 06. The great Déise team of Mullane and Flynn never won McCarthy. Lar Corbett's hat trick was something else on behalf of the little people



https://youtu.be/RztFiCl_r20
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 12:55:32 PM
Colm O Rourke new Meath manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 12:55:32 PM
Colm O Rourke new Meath manager.

If true its very strange to step into his first attempt at county management at this stage.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 25, 2022, 01:40:33 PM
OTB saying this morning that Jayo could be heading to Monaghan.

Not sure how realistic it is though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 25, 2022, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 12:55:32 PM
Colm O Rourke new Meath manager.

If true its very strange to step into his first attempt at county management at this stage.

It's true
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on July 25, 2022, 02:23:38 PM
Wow!!!

Be interesting to see how he does.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on July 25, 2022, 02:29:26 PM
Dessie Farrell will be gone this week too
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 25, 2022, 02:44:47 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0725/1312115-colm-orourke-to-be-appointed-new-meath-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Turf on July 25, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 25, 2022, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 12:55:32 PM
Colm O Rourke new Meath manager.

If true its very strange to step into his first attempt at county management at this stage.

It's true
Won't end well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 25, 2022, 02:50:06 PM
Pat and Colm gone from TSG now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 25, 2022, 02:55:08 PM
I would be surprised if O'Rourke did well. He is a smart guy in many ways and I always felt part of his smartness was avoiding going into county management and failing. This would have undermined his ability to pontificate as a pundit.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on July 25, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
Again like Pat his time was coming to an end.   Hes finally going for the county job now that he is free from the punditry.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on July 25, 2022, 03:23:43 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 25, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
Again like Pat his time was coming to an end.   Hes finally going for the county job now that he is free from the punditry.  Time will tell.

More power to him. An interesting appointment. Has his chance now after been rejected 3 times in the past. Better to do and fail than not do and wonder comes to mind with this appointment.

https://punditarena.com/gaa/james-fenton/colm-orourke-meath-managers-job/?amp
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 03:32:55 PM
It's good timing for him personally. His time was coming to an end at the punditry after first Brolly and then Spillane were shepherded out. I don't know if he is still a school principal but he probably decided to give the job a stab as it is likely that this will be his last gig and he will go into retirement afterwards. From Meaths perspective a lot will depend on the team he is able to assemble around him. County management now is as much about being able to surround yourself with the right people as being able to coach. I think O'Rourke is clever enough to recognise that though. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on July 25, 2022, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 25, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
Again like Pat his time was coming to an end.   Hes finally going for the county job now that he is free from the punditry.  Time will tell.

He is likely also retiring from the school principal job at some stage around now. It is a brave move, but Meath are not in a good place and some improvement in their performance is very possible. He choice of Lieutenants will be interesting.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on July 25, 2022, 04:42:48 PM
It will be fascinating to see how he'll get on after finally getting his chance.

Best of luck to him. Leinster needs a good Meath team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on
He's 65 in a few weeks must be retiring. Still odd that he's taking on the Meath job at that age and never managed at senior county level before.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 04:52:07 PM
It's look like a serious management team with Eamon Fitzmaurice and Donie Buckley also involved
Colm O Rourke will be manager rumours are Eamon fitzmaurice is coach and assistant manager, Donie Buckley coach and Barry Callaghan Stephen Bray selectors. Meath ladies S and C coach who was also Jimmy McGuinnes S and C coach Ivers also part of management team. Strong looking management team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Boy Wonder on July 25, 2022, 04:56:08 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 04:52:07 PM
It's look like a serious management team with Eamon Fitzmaurice and Donie Buckley also involved
Colm O Rourke will be manager rumours are Eamon fitzmaurice is coach and assistant manager, Donie Buckley coach and Barry Callaghan Stephen Bray selectors. Meath ladies S and C coach who was also Jimmy McGuinnes S and C coach Ivers also part of management team. Strong looking management team.

Gosh - they are only short of a good Nutrionist / Herbalist  ;)

Good time to be stepping in with Dublin possibly on the wane.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: Turf on July 25, 2022, 02:47:39 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 25, 2022, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 12:55:32 PM
Colm O Rourke new Meath manager.

If true its very strange to step into his first attempt at county management at this stage.

It's true
Won't end well.
With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team. O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title. Along with Trevor Giles Meath best player of last 50 years. Also will have Best talent to come through Meath in a generation. With Meath winning 4 U17 minor leinster titles in 5 years and one best underage teams to come out of leinster in last 20 years. Meath minors 2022 are only third leinster team to win minor All Ireland since 2000 in last 22 years along with laois 2003 and Dublin 2012 . Meath also have two top class midfielders in Auzzie rules with a good chance one of them potentially coming back next year with McBride. The other Conor Nash a generational talent says he want to come back in coming years to play for Meath. Look at Meath ladies. Meath did feck all work at underage for 20 years and stayed div 2 team. With huge work being done good management appointment, onwards and upwards.. Meath have huge potential.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 05:02:44 PM
Meath have got to be happy with that and it is probably a good time to get the job with Dublin in transition. They need to get back to being competitive in division 2 and then Leinster but Derry have shown how a counties fortunes can be turned around if the right set up and buy in is there. O'Rourke will help with that as he is well respected in the game and has brought a good management team around him. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.
Got a link to such info?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

Mr Brolly
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 25, 2022, 06:10:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

Mr Brolly

Don't think it's right to bring up stuff like that - loads got hit by the economic crash in 2007 onwards.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 25, 2022, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 25, 2022, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 25, 2022, 03:17:18 PM
Again like Pat his time was coming to an end.   Hes finally going for the county job now that he is free from the punditry.  Time will tell.

He is likely also retiring from the school principal job at some stage around now. It is a brave move, but Meath are not in a good place and some improvement in their performance is very possible. He choice of Lieutenants will be interesting.
He must have come to a view on Dublin. Man Utd situation, at least for 2/3 years ?
If Meath can beat Dublin the job looks very different. But it's a big ask
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 06:26:07 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 25, 2022, 06:10:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 25, 2022, 04:22:53 PM
Wonder will he continue as a schoolmaster though.
Bound to be at retirement age for that carry on

He has his years long done but got caught out in economic crash.

Yes forgot about that. Wasn't that thrown up to him on TV a few years ago ?

Mr Brolly

Don't think it's right to bring up stuff like that - loads got hit by the economic crash in 2007 onwards.

Wasn't a criticism, just saying reason why he hasn't retired before now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

At 65 it's hardly a long term appointment. Considering where Meath seniors currently are what would be regarded as a success in the next two years?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 07:09:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

At 65 it's hardly a long term appointment. Considering where Meath seniors currently are what would be regarded as a success in the next two years?
Clearly there is succession plan. Meath minor All Ireland winning manager Cathal O Bric  will take U19 management panel in 2023 and will manage U20 Meath team in 2024. With John Mccarrhy 2020 Leinster minor manager managing U20s this year and next year. It looks like O Bric minor All Ireland winning manager wil take those player at U20 and than all going well will take over as senior manager in 3 r 4 years time. Kevin Reilly ex player who led Trim to Intermediate All Ireland final last year is another potential manager in 3 or 4 years time. Barry Callaghan who is O Rourke selector has also managed Meath minors U20s and U21 in the past is also potential future manager. O Rourke is not long term manager.. 3 to 4 years maybe 5 maybe 3. We will see. There is group of young Meath managers Cathal O Bric, Kevin Reilly, Barry Callaghan and Brian Farrell who (managed Rataoth to senior club title) who are not ready but in 3 t 4 y3srs time who cud take over from Colm. If O Bric is successful with minors at U20 he will take over from Colm O Rourke. There will be succession plan when O Rourke takes over. That's what it looks will happen.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on July 25, 2022, 08:13:40 PM
Wee James gone in Down
http://www.downgaa.net/news/mccartan-steps-down-as-down-gaa-senior-football-manager (http://www.downgaa.net/news/mccartan-steps-down-as-down-gaa-senior-football-manager)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 25, 2022, 09:27:37 PM
Meath put a Dinosaur in charge
🦕
Good stuff
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WhoDat on July 25, 2022, 11:14:02 PM
wouldn't be overly impressed with that appointment if i was a Meath supporter. if his punditry is anything to go by, his views are very outdated (and usually wrong).

who's going for the mayo job? there doesn't seem to be much of a peep out of them at the moment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 26, 2022, 06:04:17 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.
Got a link to such info?
It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 26, 2022, 08:19:45 AM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 08:02:28 PM
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O Rourke has being successful any other level he is managed. The only international rules manager to win home and away. Managed school to 3 All Ireland schools titles in 5 years. And managed his club to their first and second club senior title.

How successful was he when managing Meath minors and U21s in the past?

He managed U21 for one year in 2011. Meath played Westmeath and John Heslin was unmarkable and played brilliantly and led Westmeath to victory. Trevor Giles was assistant. He was Meath U21 manager for just 1 year. I not sure about minors might have managed team for 1 year in 2000s. I cannot remeber.

O Rourke as manager starts of slow but over period of time he is successful. He started slowly with international rules team, lost first game. Than went on to be only Irish manager successful home and away. He lost senior county final with Simontown in 2003 or 2004. Came back for 2nd stint and led them to their first and second ever county club senior title. He managed St Pats again started slowly. Pats had never won even leinster title. He won leinster than won 3 all Ireland schools title in 5 years  he is Meath most successful underage manager ever.

O Rourke is a winner. They said he would never play again after injury at 19, he players inter County til he was 36. They said he would never win Sam as played in early or mid 80s, he won two by end of decade. He won Footballer of the year in his 30s, one of few who lost All Ireland and won footballer of the year. They said he would never win county title after losing 4 finals with Skyrne. He ended winning 2 titles in his 30s. They said he would never win All Ireland school with St Pats he won 3. They said he would never manage his club to county title after lose in 2004. Ten years later he managed his club to 2 titled. O Rourke carrer is about proving doubters wrong. He keeps at it and keeps at it. They said he would never manage Meath here is managing at 65. They now say he wouldn't be successful. We will have to wait and see.
But O Rourke is a winner and he is incredibly driven individual who with the force of his personality over 3 years he will be pushing Meath further. He might atart slowly but over 3 years he could really make impact. Many will want him to fail after Subday Game. But don't rule out O Rourke. First year or so could be up and down but over 3 or 4 years don't be surprised he makes real impact. On sporting field manager or player everything he has done he has been successful. I wouldn't back against O Rourke. Behind his Sunday game persona is very very driven individual. On football field The Times Sports journalist Denis Walah said O Rourke was the most competitive sportsperson he ever saw on sports field soccer gaa rugby. O Rourke had the skills of top class footballer of the year forward but determination of Roy keane. One of the All time great forwards. The only thing left on his Cv is to manage Meath seniors successfully. Time will tell if he will suceed.

At 65 it's hardly a long term appointment. Considering where Meath seniors currently are what would be regarded as a success in the next two years?
Clearly there is succession plan. Meath minor All Ireland winning manager Cathal O Bric  will take U19 management panel in 2023 and will manage U20 Meath team in 2024. With John Mccarrhy 2020 Leinster minor manager managing U20s this year and next year. It looks like O Bric minor All Ireland winning manager wil take those player at U20 and than all going well will take over as senior manager in 3 r 4 years time. Kevin Reilly ex player who led Trim to Intermediate All Ireland final last year is another potential manager in 3 or 4 years time. Barry Callaghan who is O Rourke selector has also managed Meath minors U20s and U21 in the past is also potential future manager. O Rourke is not long term manager.. 3 to 4 years maybe 5 maybe 3. We will see. There is group of young Meath managers Cathal O Bric, Kevin Reilly, Barry Callaghan and Brian Farrell who (managed Rataoth to senior club title) who are not ready but in 3 t 4 y3srs time who cud take over from Colm. If O Bric is successful with minors at U20 he will take over from Colm O Rourke. There will be succession plan when O Rourke takes over. That's what it looks will happen.

3 to 5 is pretty long term these days, I would guess half the teams in the country have managers in place less than 5 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Truth hurts on July 26, 2022, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 26, 2022, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on July 26, 2022, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 26, 2022, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on July 26, 2022, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Generally, a dominant club is not good for the county team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tonto1888 on July 26, 2022, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 10:33:14 AM
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Quote from: Truth hurts on July 26, 2022, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Generally, a dominant club is not good for the county team.

didnt do us any harm when cross were dominant
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ed Ricketts on July 26, 2022, 12:09:34 PM
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Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Generally, a dominant club is not good for the county team.

didnt do us any harm when cross were dominant

Many would argue it did, and this became particularly evident once the AI winning team began to break up around 2006. Senior club football was uncompetitive and uninteresting for years, and the overall standard dropped markedly compared with previously decades. We're maybe only beginning to see a recovery in the last two or three years - 25 years on from the birth of the monster.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on July 26, 2022, 12:09:34 PM
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Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Generally, a dominant club is not good for the county team.

didnt do us any harm when cross were dominant

Many would argue it did, and this became particularly evident once the AI winning team began to break up around 2006. Senior club football was uncompetitive and uninteresting for years, and the overall standard dropped markedly compared with previously decades. We're maybe only beginning to see a recovery in the last two or three years - 25 years on from the birth of the monster.
All Irelands need high skill levels. Regular hammerings are bad for skills development . The best club team will never get the full 15 on the county team or be better in every single position. A spread of clubs tends to be better.
Armagh only won the one all Ireland while Cross were vacuuming up county titles.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tonto1888 on July 26, 2022, 02:13:40 PM
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Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Generally, a dominant club is not good for the county team.

didnt do us any harm when cross were dominant

Many would argue it did, and this became particularly evident once the AI winning team began to break up around 2006. Senior club football was uncompetitive and uninteresting for years, and the overall standard dropped markedly compared with previously decades. We're maybe only beginning to see a recovery in the last two or three years - 25 years on from the birth of the monster.
All Irelands need high skill levels. Regular hammerings are bad for skills development . The best club team will never get the full 15 on the county team or be better in every single position. A spread of clubs tends to be better.
Armagh only won the one all Ireland while Cross were vacuuming up county titles.

And zero All Irelands when they werent
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on July 26, 2022, 04:36:33 PM
Michael Fennelly gone from Offaly hurlers I see in local media Midlands Sport. I wonder will he be involved in back room team of any future Kilkenny backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
I wonder did he go or was he pushed? I dunno if Offaly would be living up to expectations.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Helix. on July 26, 2022, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
I wonder did he go or was he pushed? I dunno if Offaly would be living up to expectations.

Say the latter. 3 year term up, Offaly County Board chose not to renew it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 26, 2022, 05:02:11 PM
One journalist tweeted

14 GAA county senior managers have left their positions over the last four weeks.

Only three of those replaced with Mayo, Monaghan, Dublin, Offaly, Waterford, Wexford, Donegal, Longford, Kilkenny and Down all having vacancies, along with the Laois hurlers from mid-June.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 26, 2022, 05:22:15 PM
And Roscommon??,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 26, 2022, 05:30:11 PM
Quote from: Helix. on July 26, 2022, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
I wonder did he go or was he pushed? I dunno if Offaly would be living up to expectations.

Say the latter. 3 year term up, Offaly County Board chose not to renew it.

I wonder why?

Were players not impressed with him?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 26, 2022, 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2022, 05:22:15 PM
And Roscommon??,
Have they got vacancy?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 26, 2022, 06:42:07 PM
We don't know, no word from CB as to whether Anthony is staying or going, or being proposed or anything! :-\
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not happy social media announced who the new Meath manager was the other day.

He was in for it also - had an impressive team behind him also.

I wonder, as it's a 'job' as such, can a candidate go back to the panel and say why did X get it over me or what else would have got me the gig?

Or can they appeal the decision?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 27, 2022, 03:23:59 PM
Who are the front runners in Donegal?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on July 27, 2022, 09:42:08 PM
Just read earlier that 14 inter county managers have stood down in the last 5 weeks. That in itself is shocking and I don't ever remember so many vacancies.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armamike on July 28, 2022, 12:55:12 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 26, 2022, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on July 26, 2022, 12:09:34 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 26, 2022, 11:56:04 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 10:33:14 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 26, 2022, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on July 26, 2022, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 09:46:04 PM
Wee James no surprise, the only surprise is that he left it so long. Down are at a low ebb but it's probably a good time to take that job as they can't sink much lower but they need to begin to try and heal the club rifts which will be difficult. Maybe an outside man like Banty alongside Laverty and Poacher.

What club rifts?

Kilcoo and Burren, I'm only looking at it from the outside but I get the impression that there isn't much love between Kilcoo in general and the county set up.
Generally, a dominant club is not good for the county team.

didnt do us any harm when cross were dominant

Many would argue it did, and this became particularly evident once the AI winning team began to break up around 2006. Senior club football was uncompetitive and uninteresting for years, and the overall standard dropped markedly compared with previously decades. We're maybe only beginning to see a recovery in the last two or three years - 25 years on from the birth of the monster.
All Irelands need high skill levels. Regular hammerings are bad for skills development . The best club team will never get the full 15 on the county team or be better in every single position. A spread of clubs tends to be better.
Armagh only won the one all Ireland while Cross were vacuuming up county titles.

And zero All Irelands when they werent

True!  There's different ways to look at the Cross dominance aspect but at the end of the day in the late 90s and early 2000s they supplied 4 or 5 key players who were central to the county team with a few more as panel members.  So their contribution to the county effort at that time was huge.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on July 28, 2022, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: ck on July 27, 2022, 09:42:08 PM
Just read earlier that 14 inter county managers have stood down in the last 5 weeks. That in itself is shocking and I don't ever remember so many vacancies.
It's understandable as two many keyboard warriors with unrealistic views.
Fair play to anyone who steps up to take the jobs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on July 28, 2022, 10:26:18 AM
You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on July 28, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 28, 2022, 10:26:18 AM
You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.

Is he not coaching Derry City youths?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on July 28, 2022, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 28, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 28, 2022, 10:26:18 AM
You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.

Is he not coaching Derry City youths?

I think he was third coach to their U21 team (assistant to the assistant coach) which is well down the pecking order.

It's not a bit surprising that his soccer career hasn't gone anywhere - In his only stint as a manager Charlotte won 1 game of the 14 he was in charge for and then after he left they won 8 from 20 in the remaining games and the season before he was there had won 10 from 34. There isn't any way to spin those numbers as anything positive.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on July 28, 2022, 11:18:30 AM
Quote from: naka on July 28, 2022, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: ck on July 27, 2022, 09:42:08 PM
Just read earlier that 14 inter county managers have stood down in the last 5 weeks. That in itself is shocking and I don't ever remember so many vacancies.
It's understandable as two many keyboard warriors with unrealistic views.
Fair play to anyone who steps up to take the jobs.

I would say a part of this is COVID related - a fair few managers stayed on during the COVID seasons so there was a back of a backlog in terms of turnover.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on July 28, 2022, 12:09:44 PM
Wouldnt say banking at least a couple of million bucks for his China and American journeys was a failure for Jim.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 28, 2022, 09:35:01 PM
McStay with Rochford, McHale and Donie Buckley assisting has put in for Mayowestros role :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 28, 2022, 10:03:35 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2022, 09:35:01 PM
McStay with Rochford, McHale and Donie Buckley assisting has put in for Mayowestros role :o
Interesting developments. McStay not retired from county management afterall.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 29, 2022, 09:41:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2022, 09:35:01 PM
McStay with Rochford, McHale and Donie Buckley assisting has put in for Mayowestros role :o
He was very brónach about inter County management when he finished with Ros. This MGHU news is a surprise.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on July 29, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
Far to many big personalities, end up falling out like they did in Roscommon. Who will McStay throw under the bus after a year or 2 of inevitable failure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on July 29, 2022, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Helix. on July 26, 2022, 04:44:51 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
I wonder did he go or was he pushed? I dunno if Offaly would be living up to expectations.

Say the latter. 3 year term up, Offaly County Board chose not to renew it.

He didn't set the world alight in Offaly to be fair. Hard to see him being part of the incoming Kilkenny set up.

Offaly might just promote Leo O'Connor (Limerick) up from their minors now.

Hurling wise there's still a good few high profile posts to be filled, Waterford, Dublin, Kilkenny and who knows there might still be some moving about from county to county yet although Henry is expected to stay with the tribesmen, but would Kilkenny come calling it would be hard for him to refuse and they might not offer it again.

Tipp were pretty ruthless but got their man, Cork were quick to act as well.

Wee Davy will be looking another big gig.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 29, 2022, 11:37:31 AM
You'd think Lyng would get the KK gig - served his apprenticeship under Cody and did really well with a decent bunch at U20 this year.

McGrath would fit Waterford well you'd think.

Davy Fitz - would Dublin take him?

Laois are still looking also.

County boards, I presume, would like the management teams in place asap as the club championships are under way.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on July 29, 2022, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 28, 2022, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 28, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 28, 2022, 10:26:18 AM
You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.

Is he not coaching Derry City youths?

I think he was third coach to their U21 team (assistant to the assistant coach) which is well down the pecking order.

It's not a bit surprising that his soccer career hasn't gone anywhere - In his only stint as a manager Charlotte won 1 game of the 14 he was in charge for and then after he left they won 8 from 20 in the remaining games and the season before he was there had won 10 from 34. There isn't any way to spin those numbers as anything positive.

The Harps position might come up if Ollie Horgan decides he's had enough after they go down this year.

Or maybe Ollie enjoys the incredible lengths he has to go to in performing miracles every year scraping a squad of kids and obscure second chancers together to try to keep them in the premier league. Especially now that the Stranorlar stadium looks to be back on track.

But is McGuinness even qualified to manage a LOI team?

He should take the county job. He's a smart lad and it will be a challenge for him to see if he can adapt to the new tactical era.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 29, 2022, 12:54:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 29, 2022, 12:39:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 28, 2022, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 28, 2022, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 28, 2022, 10:26:18 AM
You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.

Is he not coaching Derry City youths?

I think he was third coach to their U21 team (assistant to the assistant coach) which is well down the pecking order.

It's not a bit surprising that his soccer career hasn't gone anywhere - In his only stint as a manager Charlotte won 1 game of the 14 he was in charge for and then after he left they won 8 from 20 in the remaining games and the season before he was there had won 10 from 34. There isn't any way to spin those numbers as anything positive.

The Harps position might come up if Ollie Horgan decides he's had enough after they go down this year.

Or maybe Ollie enjoys the incredible lengths he has to go to in performing miracles every year scraping a squad of kids and obscure second chancers together to try to keep them in the premier league. Especially now that the Stranorlar stadium looks to be back on track.

But is McGuinness even qualified to manage a LOI team?

He should take the county job. He's a smart lad and it will be a challenge for him to see if he can adapt to the new tactical era.

Did he not 'invent' the new tactical era?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 29, 2022, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Rudi on July 29, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
Far to many big personalities, end up falling out like they did in Roscommon. Who will McStay throw under the bus after a year or 2 of inevitable failure.
Operatic failure goes with the Mayo job


It's like you're screaming, and no one can hear
You almost feel ashamed
That a county  could be that important
That without it, you feel like nothing
No one will ever understand how much it hurts
You feel hopeless; like nothing can save you
And when it's over, and it's gone
You almost wish that you could have all that bad stuff back
So that you could have the Allstars



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thejuice on July 29, 2022, 01:37:51 PM
Well. We're in the Colm O'Rourke era now. I was hoping we would look outside the county. However we shall see. Colms punditry doesn't inspire me too much in terms of his understanding of the modern game but he has a decent track record as a manager but not stellar and nothing at inter-county level. I wish he took the Meath job after Colm Coyle as it feels a bit late for him now. However of the candidates that actually put themselves forward he was clearly the strongest. Funny thing is his candidacy wasn't known widely about in the last few weeks.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 5times5times on July 29, 2022, 01:51:32 PM
At least if McStay gets the Mayo job, that 2 dosses that'll be off the airways.

All we need is Kavanagh to get the Tyrone job and RTE will almost get near sky with their punditry!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 29, 2022, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 26, 2022, 06:04:17 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.
Got a link to such info?
It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Buckley is part of McStays proposed Mayo management. Still no word in the national media that Jim McGuinness Eamon Fitzmaurice will be part of O'Rourke management.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Real Talk on July 29, 2022, 08:33:37 PM
It takes an awful lot of money to fund County Management team and all the hidden costs associated with team analyists,  medical back up physios etc.  And while for eg pundits talk about Galway just needing a few more quality players to make them more competitive in 2023 while at the same time they probably have a few top players like Conroy who is at the other end of his career ..... it can become a very risking business waiting on players to develop a team ..... I think young aspiring county players will catch on very quickly if there is enough talent within their squad to win firstly a Provinceinal title not to mention Sam or Liam .... and all the best management personal in the world won't make any difference.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 31, 2022, 05:54:55 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 29, 2022, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 26, 2022, 06:04:17 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.
Got a link to such info?
It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Buckley is part of McStays proposed Mayo management. Still no word in the national media that Jim McGuinness Eamon Fitzmaurice will be part of O'Rourke management.
Yes there is.
The Star Newspaper, a  national newspaper said at end of last week that Eamon Fitzmaurice has being linked with being part of Meaths management set up as assitant manager and coach. They also said Donie Buckley could be involved in Meath management team also. The Star newspaper asked Colm O Rourke about Eamon Fitzmaurice as part of his management team and Buckley also dnd O Rourke didn't rule either out. They asked him about Fitzmaurice and he didnt rule it out. If Fitzmaurice wasn't in talks he would have said straight out no.
O Rourke said basically be believe in big strong management with many Individuals with different roles to play.
When O Rourke managed Simontown to two Meath senior club titles in a row he had management team of over 20 people. O Rourke has always stated a big management team is needed for gaa now. O Rourke will have biggest most varied management team in Meath ever. But decisions on every member needs to be finalised. So putting together a massive management team will take time.

But as I said the national media have mentioned Fitzmaurice joining Meath and Buckley also. And O Rourke didn't deny it. That's because Fitzmaurice has being in talks with Meath county board for weeks and attended interview for the job and was frontrunner 3 weeks ago. It will take a few more weeks before we see O Rourkes management team. But it will quite a big set up with allot of good people. From international rules to club O Rourke has always had good management teams.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 31, 2022, 08:02:02 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 29, 2022, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 26, 2022, 06:04:17 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: BillyFlynnfromTrim on July 25, 2022, 05:02:05 PM

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.
Got a link to such info?
It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Buckley is part of McStays proposed Mayo management. Still no word in the national media that Jim McGuinness Eamon Fitzmaurice will be part of O'Rourke management.
The Star newspaper last week linked Fitzmaurice to New Meath Management team. And the Irish Examinor also last week linked Fitzmaurice to New Meath Management team. And LMFM main radio station in North East louth and Meath asked Colm O Rourke about rumours  circulating in that Eamon Fitzmaurice and Donie Buckley our part of his management and he didn't rule it out and he didn't deny it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on July 31, 2022, 08:22:35 AM
Will be and could be are two very different things...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on July 31, 2022, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 27, 2022, 01:14:34 PM
Bernard Flynn not happy social media announced who the new Meath manager was the other day.

He was in for it also - had an impressive team behind him also.

I wonder, as it's a 'job' as such, can a candidate go back to the panel and say why did X get it over me or what else would have got me the gig?

Or can they appeal the decision?
Tommy Rooney (Meath man who seems to get info from county board)  on Newstalk had some interesting comments on Bernard Flynn.

Flynn said on social media that it was very disappointing that the first he learned about the new manager appointment was on social media.
Which wasn't a lie, but was definitely designed to be misleading. Flynn was called by the county board before the announcement and was told he wasn't getting it. He asked to be told who the new manager was, but the county board person would not tell him (which was the agreed county board protocol in relation to the unsuccessful candidates).

Flynn also tweeted his thanks about Rochford for his loyal support, or word to those effects, which indicated that Rochford was on his ticket. However, Flynn's tweet was later deleted, as it's clear Rochford is trying to be on a Mayo ticket, and it seems he would only have considered being on Flynn's team if he didn't get a role with Mayo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derry Optimist on July 31, 2022, 01:55:08 PM
The media are having a field day not only in speculating as  to who will manage which county,   but almost more importantly,  what will be the identity of their various back room teams. Going by the successful teams of the recent past, that means at least a full time group of 20 people per county plus an auxiliary part time staff of 4 to 6 others.To me this is a runaway expensive train which will further separate the top 6 or 7 larger counties who can easily attract large sponsorship from the rest of the counties.

How that imbalance can be rectified I do not know but it is certainly an inherent inequality regarding the future fairness of the competitiveness of our annual All Ireland championships in both hurling and football. It should be addressed with a sense of urgency by ALL GAA STAKEHOLDERS.

An interesting aside in all of this speculation is how often the same names keep recurring when it comes to selecting back room staff..Some one has decided that Donie Buckey  is the best football coach in the country and maybe he is. He has already been an integral part of Mayo,Kerry and Monaghan back room teams. A few weeks ago he was linked with Tomas O'Sé to take over Offaly. Now the latter has pulled out of that and we immediately find Donie linked to Mayo with Kevin McStay as well as with Colm O'Rourke,Eamon Fitzmaurice and Meath.

I think the availability of a large amount of expenses plays a central role as to who goes where. It is in this area that I believe financial control of such appointments should be under the direct Control of the GAA Management Committee with a clear transparent,accounting procedure in place. If this were done, maybe we could start to treat all of our counties equally and fairly. After all the players of Fermanagh,Leitrim,Longford and Carlow train as hard as the Kerrys, Dublins,Galways and yrones of this world but thereafter the chasm of inequality becomes wider and bigger each year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 31, 2022, 02:27:30 PM
God bless your innocence!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 03, 2022, 10:14:47 AM
Anthony Cunningham gone: https://www.gaaroscommon.ie/anthony-cunningham-steps-down-as-roscommon-gaa-senior-football-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 03, 2022, 12:12:43 PM
Roscommon have been out of the Championship for nearly 2 months why has it taken him so long to step down?

Surely these things should be immediate to allow the search to start and get someone in place early enough to prepare for next year? If you're starting in September/October I imagine you're starting too late!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on August 03, 2022, 12:21:46 PM
Dubs hurlers could be a nice job for Cunningham
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 03, 2022, 12:12:43 PM
Roscommon have been out of the Championship for nearly 2 months why has it taken him so long to step down?

Surely these things should be immediate to allow the search to start and get someone in place early enough to prepare for next year? If you're starting in September/October I imagine you're starting too late!

That's what we're all saying here .
Should have been sorted out a month ago.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 03, 2022, 02:09:19 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 03, 2022, 12:12:43 PM
Roscommon have been out of the Championship for nearly 2 months why has it taken him so long to step down?

Surely these things should be immediate to allow the search to start and get someone in place early enough to prepare for next year? If you're starting in September/October I imagine you're starting too late!

It happened before too, manager leaving it late to announce his exit. Cunningham was decent, nothing worth a dam internally, guess we'll end up with someone Mayo doesn't want.
I really hope a certain internal fella,doesn't get it.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 03, 2022, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 03, 2022, 12:21:46 PM
Dubs hurlers could be a nice job for Cunningham
Went for it before but didn't get it and took on the Roscommon gig instead. Might be tempted again.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 03, 2022, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 03, 2022, 12:12:43 PM
Roscommon have been out of the Championship for nearly 2 months why has it taken him so long to step down?

Surely these things should be immediate to allow the search to start and get someone in place early enough to prepare for next year? If you're starting in September/October I imagine you're starting too late!

One of the slowest county boards to react to situations like this They left Cunningham to mull over it for a couple a months when they should be the ones to press for answer from Cunningham much sooner.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2022, 08:29:48 PM
Meath news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhYtmQWTL1A
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2022, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 03, 2022, 10:14:47 AM
Anthony Cunningham gone: https://www.gaaroscommon.ie/anthony-cunningham-steps-down-as-roscommon-gaa-senior-football-manager/
They need a new gaffer with a different voice. This year Ros underachieved.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.
The thing about this year was that there was a path to the all Ireland final for the Ulster and Connacht teams.
Cunnningham has tactical weaknesses which were revealed in the 2012 hurling final. The pattern of a good first year followed by mediocrity is not surprising.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on August 04, 2022, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.

He actually won 3 in a row with Garrycastle. 2009,2010, 2011, followed by Leinster in 2011.
They had the best panel in the county at the time, but despite that they hadn't won since 2004. So he clearly added something that was missing.
They lost the county final in 2012 , following his departure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.
He did but the same tactical problems which is why the players pushed him out. His improvements reached their end.
He did do a great job with Garrycastle though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.
He did but the same tactical problems which is why the players pushed him out. His improvements reached their end.
He did do a great job with Garrycastle though.

More beaten by better Kilkenny teams than tactical problems and he had more than enough thinking heads on his Galway management team to help out if needed.  In his last few roles Roscommon seem to be the only one that he had a good first year and then regressed. That probably says more about the situation with Roscommon and where they are going regardless of who they appoint next.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.
He did but the same tactical problems which is why the players pushed him out. His improvements reached their end.
He did do a great job with Garrycastle though.

More beaten by better Kilkenny teams than tactical problems and he had more than enough thinking heads on his Galway management team to help out if needed.  In his last few roles Roscommon seem to be the only one that he had a good first year and then regressed. That probably says more about the situation with Roscommon and where they are going regardless of who they appoint next.
Not good enough. Should have won the first day in 2012
Beat KK in the Leinster final and all. That was a massive shock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vai3Gzd-ilw
Never followed through.

Losing to Clare this year. Tsk tk.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on August 04, 2022, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.
He did but the same tactical problems which is why the players pushed him out. His improvements reached their end.
He did do a great job with Garrycastle though.

More beaten by better Kilkenny teams than tactical problems and he had more than enough thinking heads on his Galway management team to help out if needed.  In his last few roles Roscommon seem to be the only one that he had a good first year and then regressed. That probably says more about the situation with Roscommon and where they are going regardless of who they appoint next.
Not good enough. Should have won the first day in 2012
Beat KK in the Leinster final and all. That was a massive shock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vai3Gzd-ilw
Never followed through.

Losing to Clare this year. Tsk tk.

With Galway hurlers he could never get the No3 berth filled and that was their Achilles heel..

O'Donoghue drops Burke in there and then big McInerney into No6 and finds a winning combination.

Dems the breaks.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 04:40:37 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 04, 2022, 04:27:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 02:56:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.
He did but the same tactical problems which is why the players pushed him out. His improvements reached their end.
He did do a great job with Garrycastle though.

More beaten by better Kilkenny teams than tactical problems and he had more than enough thinking heads on his Galway management team to help out if needed.  In his last few roles Roscommon seem to be the only one that he had a good first year and then regressed. That probably says more about the situation with Roscommon and where they are going regardless of who they appoint next.
Not good enough. Should have won the first day in 2012
Beat KK in the Leinster final and all. That was a massive shock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vai3Gzd-ilw
Never followed through.

Losing to Clare this year. Tsk tk.

With Galway hurlers he could never get the No3 berth filled and that was their Achilles heel..

O'Donoghue drops Burke in there and then big McInerney into No6 and finds a winning combination.

Dems the breaks.
Niall Donohoe was supposed to become the full back but sadly it never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szvmjgcumV8
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on August 04, 2022, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 04:40:37 PM
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Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 04, 2022, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 04, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2022, 08:55:25 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 03, 2022, 11:04:23 AM
Farewell AC, we had a few mighty days but this year's Championship poor show meant a parting of the ways was highly likely.
We're not as good a prospect as we were in 2018 so will probably end up with a B grade manager from the merry go round circuit.

More like two days in 2019 when ye beat both Mayo and Galway to win Connacht. I thought Roscommon would push on under him, but seemed to stall and go backwards if anything.

I can imagine gaining promotion back to Div 1 would be considered a good day also.   In the championship since 2019 Roscommon have certainly stalled.


@seafoid i'm nearly sure Cunningham led Galway hurlers to 2nd AI final after that 2012 final was lost after a replay. Prior to taking on the Galway hurlers he won two county titles in a row with Garrycastle and in his 3rd year they won Leinster (no other Westmeath club has won the Leinster title) and he led them to the All Ireland final.
He did but the same tactical problems which is why the players pushed him out. His improvements reached their end.
He did do a great job with Garrycastle though.

More beaten by better Kilkenny teams than tactical problems and he had more than enough thinking heads on his Galway management team to help out if needed.  In his last few roles Roscommon seem to be the only one that he had a good first year and then regressed. That probably says more about the situation with Roscommon and where they are going regardless of who they appoint next.
Not good enough. Should have won the first day in 2012
Beat KK in the Leinster final and all. That was a massive shock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vai3Gzd-ilw
Never followed through.

Losing to Clare this year. Tsk tk.

With Galway hurlers he could never get the No3 berth filled and that was their Achilles heel..

O'Donoghue drops Burke in there and then big McInerney into No6 and finds a winning combination.

Dems the breaks.
Niall Donohoe was supposed to become the full back but sadly it never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szvmjgcumV8

Yip,
was outstanding there for the Galway U21's.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 04, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Kilkenny is how you do it... quit the week after defeat and have a new manager the week after!

Why does it take so long for managers to be appointed in certain counties??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 04, 2022, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 04, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Kilkenny is how you do it... quit the week after defeat and have a new manager the week after!

Why does it take so long for managers to be appointed in certain counties??

Kilkenny has had 25 years of Candidates building up to take over from Cody!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on August 05, 2022, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 04, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Kilkenny is how you do it... quit the week after defeat and have a new manager the week after!

Why does it take so long for managers to be appointed in certain counties??

Big Lyng was the U20 manager the last few years, was involved in the senior set up under Cody prior to that as well, wonder who's he's bringing with him?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 05, 2022, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 05, 2022, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 04, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Kilkenny is how you do it... quit the week after defeat and have a new manager the week after!

Why does it take so long for managers to be appointed in certain counties??

Big Lyng was the U20 manager the last few years, was involved in the senior set up under Cody prior to that as well, wonder who's he's bringing with him?

Would Mick Fennelly be interested after leaving Offaly?

Maybe bring his U20 team with him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 05, 2022, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 05, 2022, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 04, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Kilkenny is how you do it... quit the week after defeat and have a new manager the week after!

Why does it take so long for managers to be appointed in certain counties??

Big Lyng was the U20 manager the last few years, was involved in the senior set up under Cody prior to that as well, wonder who's he's bringing with him?

Stephen Rochford.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on August 08, 2022, 09:43:38 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 05, 2022, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 05, 2022, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 04, 2022, 10:48:49 PM
Kilkenny is how you do it... quit the week after defeat and have a new manager the week after!

Why does it take so long for managers to be appointed in certain counties??

Big Lyng was the U20 manager the last few years, was involved in the senior set up under Cody prior to that as well, wonder who's he's bringing with him?

Stephen Rochford.

Was thinking more along the lines of Bernard Dunne.  ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Estimator on August 08, 2022, 06:22:01 PM
Looks like Conor Laverty will be ratified as the new Down boss later this evening.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0808/1314624-conor-laverty-to-be-named-as-new-down-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 08, 2022, 10:15:54 PM
There is a world of difference in being a good coach and a good manager. Laverty by all accounts is a very good coach but is as yet unproven as a manager which requires a totally different skill set. So it's a big punt for Down to give him the job as it requires a strong personality especially in a county such as Down who have in recent times struggled with player commitment and with some bitter club rivalries. A lot will depend on the backroom team he assembles but it's probably a good time to take over the job as he is starting from a low base with fairly low expectations.

Division three looks fairly competitive next year though and it will not be easy to get out of it. At least he has a decent lead in time however unlike wee James who was handicapped last year by taking the job too late.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on August 08, 2022, 10:48:22 PM
Did he not win Ulster U20 with Down as manager?

Good appointment, he'll surely bring the Kilcoo boys into the fold.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 09, 2022, 08:12:25 AM
At least they know how to win. If Division 3 is too hard, down always try Division 4 .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1gYJDQXPOk
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Eire90 on August 09, 2022, 09:50:01 AM
what age is he i thought he was a player has he retired will he be a player manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 09, 2022, 10:17:54 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2022/08/09/intercounty-season-may-be-over-but-managerial-merry-go-round-in-full-spin/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on August 09, 2022, 01:35:53 PM
Wee Davy freeing himself up from the Cork Camogs double quick.

He'll be waiting by the phone, which County Chairman will be the first to panic and call it.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 09, 2022, 02:38:25 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 08, 2022, 10:59:03 PM
Are there many Kilcoo players that would make much difference at county level, even down at Div 3 standard? Club & County football are like 2 different games now. Kilcoo always struck me as a team who had good to very good club footballers in every position rather than having a few players who would set the county scene alight.

Whether he brings Kilcoo players in or not isn't the thing that strikes me, it will be if he brings in that work ethic, the style of play, the annoyance of their on the edge tackling (in a good way) that that team brought to big games, the system they work with will only work if they all buy into it..

It has taken Kilcoo a few years to benefit from that game plan, will intercounty mangers get the same?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 09, 2022, 07:09:20 PM
From the indo

Liam Kearns has emerged as the frontrunner to take over from John Maughan as Offaly football manager.

Kearns is a highly experienced manager, having taken charge of Limerick, Laois and Tipperary in the past. While with Tipperary, they reached an All-Ireland semi-final in 2016. He has also been coach to Roscommon when John Evans was in charge for a brief period in 2015.

Offaly are due to make a final decision tomorrow night but Kearns, it seems, is favourite for the role. He has been involved with Roscommon club Clann na nGael in recent seasons.

Initially it looked like Tomás Ó Sé, a coach under Maughan this year, would take over from the Mayo man who was four years in charge but a change in work circumstances has apparently ruled him out of contention.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2022, 08:54:14 PM
From Offaly GAA

The Management Committee of Offaly GAA is pleased to recommend Liam Kearns as the new manager of our senior football team.

Meanwhile Davy Fitzgerald is back as Waterford hurling manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
And Stephen Rochford linked with Roscommon
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2022, 09:13:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
And Stephen Rochford linked with Roscommon
If looking to become a manager again then why didn't he look to become the next Mayo or Donegal manager?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: laoislad on August 11, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Davy Fitz back with Waterford.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 11, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Davy Fitz back with Waterford.

I've got 2 All-Irelands and you've got f#*k all.

:o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:26:28 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2022, 09:13:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
And Stephen Rochford linked with Roscommon
If looking to become a manager again then why didn't he look to become the next Mayo or Donegal manager?

I don't understand any decision he made since stepping down as mayo manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 11, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Davy Fitz back with Waterford.

I've got 2 All-Irelands and you've got f#*k all.

:o

Jesus, he's a decent manager but he's on the circuit a long while now, and waterford seemed to be going places under Cahill until the implosion in this years champ.
Surely someone up and coming rather than this little f**ker roaring in their faces would be a better bet?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 09:34:06 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 11, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Davy Fitz back with Waterford.

I've got 2 All-Irelands and you've got f#*k all.

:o

Jesus, he's a decent manager but he's on the circuit a long while now, and waterford seemed to be going places under Cahill until the implosion in this years champ.
Surely someone up and coming rather than this little f**ker roaring in their faces would be a better bet?

My quote was what he shouted at Mullane, I think, when he was manager of Clare in a match at Thurles.

I'd say quite a few Déise fans won't be happy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2022, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
And Stephen Rochford linked with Roscommon
Is that this week's rumour?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 10:02:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2022, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
And Stephen Rochford linked with Roscommon
Is that this week's rumour?

Only reputable sources from mise:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40938413.html?s=08
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 11, 2022, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 11, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Davy Fitz back with Waterford.

I've got 2 All-Irelands and you've got f#*k all.

:o

Jesus, he's a decent manager but he's on the circuit a long while now, and waterford seemed to be going places under Cahill until the implosion in this years champ.
Surely someone up and coming rather than this little f**ker roaring in their faces would be a better bet?

It's a skill in itself that Davy has perfected in staying relevant at the top for so long. He is a career GAA man and must be near the top of the all time earners list. Maybe Breheny can do up another of his top 50s on the merry go round.

As for the Mayo managerial saga with all the candidates seemingly out in the open, they could run it off like a reality tv show and vote out a management team every week before arriving at the winner. In true Mayo style.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 11, 2022, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:29:47 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 11, 2022, 09:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 11, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Davy Fitz back with Waterford.

I've got 2 All-Irelands and you've got f#*k all.

:o

Jesus, he's a decent manager but he's on the circuit a long while now, and waterford seemed to be going places under Cahill until the implosion in this years champ.
Surely someone up and coming rather than this little f**ker roaring in their faces would be a better bet?

It's a skill in itself that Davy has perfected in staying relevant at the top for so long. He is a career GAA man and must be near the top of the all time earners list. Maybe Breheny can do up another of his top 50s on the merry go round.

As for the Mayo managerial saga with all the candidates seemingly out in the open, they could run it off like a reality tv show and vote out a management team every week before arriving at the winner. In true Mayo style.

The process in Mayo is OK I think, but the timelines are leaving it wide open for all the speculation, and people to drop out, or be linked with other jobs.
3 weeks between nominations and interviews, why!?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2022, 11:24:31 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 10:02:38 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 11, 2022, 09:54:15 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 11, 2022, 09:02:14 PM
And Stephen Rochford linked with Roscommon
Is that this week's rumour?

Only reputable sources from mise:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40938413.html?s=08

Hmmmmm......
Reliable reputable journalist right enough so  someone at top level  must have said it to him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 12, 2022, 01:08:18 AM
From the Irish times,  Seven vacancies remain to be filled and four of them are Div 1 teams next year.

Connacht
Galway: Pádraic Joyce

Extension expected to be ratified by county board

Leitrim: Andy Moran

Mayo: Vacancy (James Horan)

Four candidates: Ray Dempsey, Kevin McStay, Declan Shaw and Mike Solan are declared.

Roscommon: Vacancy (Anthony Cunningham)

Sligo: Tony McEntee


Leinster
Carlow: Niall Carew

Kildare: Glenn Ryan

Laois: Billy Sheehan

Longford: Vacancy (Billy O’Loughlin)

Louth: Mickey Harte

Meath: Colm O’Rourke (succeeds Andy McEntee)

Offaly: Liam Kearns (succeeds John Maughan)

Westmeath: John Cooney

Wexford: Vacancy (Shane Roche)

Wicklow: Vacancy (Alan Costello and Gary Duffy)

Selection process under way. Outgoing caretaker management hopes to continue.


Dublin : Dessie Farrell . Initial term is complete but renewal likely.


Munster

Clare: Colm Collins

Football’s longest serving manager is currently considering his future

Cork: John Cleary (succeeds Keith Ricken)

Kerry: Jack O’Connor

Limerick: Billy Lee

Tipperary: David Power

Waterford: Ephie Fitzgerald

Ulster
Antrim: Andy McEntee (succeeds Enda McGinley)

Armagh: Kieran McGeeney

Extension expected to be ratified by county board

Cavan: Mickey Graham

Derry: Rory Gallagher

Donegal: Vacancy (Declan Bonnar)

Down: Conor Laverty (succeeds James McCartan)

Fermanagh: Kieran Donnelly

Monaghan: Vacancy (Séamus McEnaney)

Tyrone: Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.

Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 12, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Is Counihan the man in Monaghan ??
The rumours are strong
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Schkite on August 14, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 12, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Is Counihan the man in Monaghan ??
The rumours are strong

Think so yeah
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 14, 2022, 07:31:57 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.

Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?
I remember Val Daly playing and managing Galway in 97
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 14, 2022, 07:43:03 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 14, 2022, 07:31:57 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.

Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?
I remember Val Daly playing and managing Galway in 97

Larry Tompkins did for Cork around 98.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 14, 2022, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.


Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?

Yeah, I don't know what the story is with Donegal football. Bonner was extended last year because there were no other takers. Go back 20 years and McEniff, county chairman at the time, took the job as basically a caretaker for three seasons because they couldn't find anyone after Mickey Moran stepped down.

I'd say they'll bring someone in from outside.

Any Tyrone bucks interested in managing their beloved neighbours? :)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoeSoap on August 15, 2022, 09:38:03 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 14, 2022, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.


Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?

Yeah, I don't know what the story is with Donegal football. Bonner was extended last year because there were no other takers. Go back 20 years and McEniff, county chairman at the time, took the job as basically a caretaker for three seasons because they couldn't find anyone after Mickey Moran stepped down.

I'd say they'll bring someone in from outside.

Any Tyrone bucks interested in managing their beloved neighbours? :)

I heard it was Jim's if he wanted it and that put a few people off going forward. Now that Jim has said he's not going for it, I've heard Malachy O'Rourke has been talking to the county board last week.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: JoeSoap on August 15, 2022, 09:38:03 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 14, 2022, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.


Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?

Yeah, I don't know what the story is with Donegal football. Bonner was extended last year because there were no other takers. Go back 20 years and McEniff, county chairman at the time, took the job as basically a caretaker for three seasons because they couldn't find anyone after Mickey Moran stepped down.

I'd say they'll bring someone in from outside.

Any Tyrone bucks interested in managing their beloved neighbours? :)

I heard it was Jim's if he wanted it and that put a few people off going forward. Now that Jim has said he's not going for it, I've heard Malachy O'Rourke has been talking to the county board last week.

Would it be possible for O'Rourke to do the two - club and county?

Or would that be too much?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 15, 2022, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: JoeSoap on August 15, 2022, 09:38:03 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 14, 2022, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.


Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?

Yeah, I don't know what the story is with Donegal football. Bonner was extended last year because there were no other takers. Go back 20 years and McEniff, county chairman at the time, took the job as basically a caretaker for three seasons because they couldn't find anyone after Mickey Moran stepped down.

I'd say they'll bring someone in from outside.

Any Tyrone bucks interested in managing their beloved neighbours? :)

I heard it was Jim's if he wanted it and that put a few people off going forward. Now that Jim has said he's not going for it, I've heard Malachy O'Rourke has been talking to the county board last week.

Would it be possible for O'Rourke to do the two - club and county?

Or would that be too much?

I'd imagine if he takes the Donegal job he'll do both until Glen are out of the Cship.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2022, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 15, 2022, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:35:21 AM
Quote from: JoeSoap on August 15, 2022, 09:38:03 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 14, 2022, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 12, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
I saw Collins is staying on in Clare there during the week - think it was in the Examiner

One year term for the time being.

A bit mad there was no candidate for the Donegal job from the clubs.

I wonder what odds of a Murphy player/manager situation.


Wonder when was the last time there a player/manager at intercounty level?

Yeah, I don't know what the story is with Donegal football. Bonner was extended last year because there were no other takers. Go back 20 years and McEniff, county chairman at the time, took the job as basically a caretaker for three seasons because they couldn't find anyone after Mickey Moran stepped down.

I'd say they'll bring someone in from outside.

Any Tyrone bucks interested in managing their beloved neighbours? :)

I heard it was Jim's if he wanted it and that put a few people off going forward. Now that Jim has said he's not going for it, I've heard Malachy O'Rourke has been talking to the county board last week.

Would it be possible for O'Rourke to do the two - club and county?

Or would that be too much?

I'd imagine if he takes the Donegal job he'll do both until Glen are out of the Cship.

Wheest with the speculating SE  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 15, 2022, 02:25:05 PM
Praying he goes... the last thing I want to see is a Watty dynasty!!!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Martin McHugh & Maxi Curran  ;D interested in Donegal
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Martin McHugh & Maxi Curran  ;D interested in Donegal

As a combo?

Is Mc Hugh doing a Colm O'Rourke?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 15, 2022, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Martin McHugh & Maxi Curran  ;D interested in Donegal

As a combo?

Is Mc Hugh doing a Colm O'Rourke?
Looks that way, Curran part of McHughs management.

Martin McHugh declined the Donegal job in 2008, telling BBC Sport "I don't have the time"

However, he told the Donegal News in January 2022: "I would still love to manage Donegal. I'd love to manage my own county... It would be something I'd like to do. There's a bucket list there when you get to my age, and I'd still like to have a crack with Donegal"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 15, 2022, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Martin McHugh & Maxi Curran  ;D interested in Donegal

As a combo?

Is Mc Hugh doing a Colm O'Rourke?
Looks that way, Curran part of McHughs management.

Martin McHugh declined the Donegal job in 2008, telling BBC Sport "I don't have the time"

However, he told the Donegal News in January 2022: "I would still love to manage Donegal. I'd love to manage my own county... It would be something I'd like to do. There's a bucket list there when you get to my age, and I'd still like to have a crack with Donegal"

Was Mc Hugh with Kilcar or any club recently?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
https://www.donegaldaily.com/2022/08/15/mchugh-and-maxi-emerge-as-donegal-management-team-possibility/

McHugh hasn't done much management lately. Would be a serious step backwards if these 2 were considered.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2022, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
https://www.donegaldaily.com/2022/08/15/mchugh-and-maxi-emerge-as-donegal-management-team-possibility/

McHugh hasn't done much management lately. Would be a serious step backwards if these 2 were considered.
Serious step backwards was reappointing Bonner in 2017 and giving him another two years when his term was up in 2020. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 08:05:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2022, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
https://www.donegaldaily.com/2022/08/15/mchugh-and-maxi-emerge-as-donegal-management-team-possibility/

McHugh hasn't done much management lately. Would be a serious step backwards if these 2 were considered.
Serious step backwards was reappointing Bonner in 2017 and giving him another two years when his term was up in 2020.

Yeah agree but this would be even worse, never go back .....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 15, 2022, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 15, 2022, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
Martin McHugh & Maxi Curran  ;D interested in Donegal

As a combo?

Is Mc Hugh doing a Colm O'Rourke?
Looks that way, Curran part of McHughs management.

Martin McHugh declined the Donegal job in 2008, telling BBC Sport "I don't have the time"

However, he told the Donegal News in January 2022: "I would still love to manage Donegal. I'd love to manage my own county... It would be something I'd like to do. There's a bucket list there when you get to my age, and I'd still like to have a crack with Donegal"

Was Mc Hugh with Kilcar or any club recently?

Think he was last with Kilcar five years ago.

Maxi Curran has done a good job with the ladies. Managed Eunan's to county title also.

No idea if they'd do a good job, but it can't be much worse than it's been.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2022, 10:10:14 PM
Is Karl Lacey interested? Heard reports he's a very good coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2022, 10:10:14 PM
Is Karl Lacey interested? Heard reports he's a very good coach.

He is the head of academy Development u14 squads upwards, unlikely to step away from this role. Type of personality Donegal needs, pretty impressive.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoeSoap on August 15, 2022, 10:31:36 PM
McHugh did a poor job with Kilcar all things considered but if he had good coaches in his backroom team, who knows. He was our greatest ever player before Murphy so could galvanise things across the county however there can be a lot of sniping in Donegal football circles (not unique in that regard) and I have a feeling that his appointment would turn into a bad enough atmosphere at the first sign of trouble unfortunately.

I'm not a huge fan of Maxi at all but there's no doubt he did a good job with the women, in reality they pushed Meath closer than anyone else this year in both the league final and the All-Ireland semi. I would have my doubts about him though and would hope if McHugh does get the job the ticket is more than him, his son, and Maxi Curran.

Lacey is heavily involved in Convoy and I doubt he would step straight into the seniors. Especially as he left Declan's backroom team due to commitments.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoeSoap on August 15, 2022, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2022, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
https://www.donegaldaily.com/2022/08/15/mchugh-and-maxi-emerge-as-donegal-management-team-possibility/

McHugh hasn't done much management lately. Would be a serious step backwards if these 2 were considered.
Serious step backwards was reappointing Bonner in 2017 and giving him another two years when his term was up in 2020.

Bonner was a breath of fresh air in 2018 and we played fantastic football in 18 and 19. Unfortunately the Ulster final defeat to Cavan, in hindsight, was a hammer blow and the setup never seemed to recover. This year was awful with some of the worst performances I've ever seen following Donegal but to say Declan's reappointment in 2017 was a step backwards after what we had witnessed in 15 & 16 is very harsh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bannside on August 15, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
Could McHugh not bring Lacey in with him in that case Rudi?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 15, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
Could McHugh not bring Lacey in with him in that case Rudi?

Dont see how he could over see the development of multiple Development  underage Squads & assist McHugh at the same time. I would leave him where he is, looking like he is doing a very good job. McHugh could do something in management terms, he needs coaches other than Maxi & his son along with him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 15, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
Could McHugh not bring Lacey in with him in that case Rudi?

Dont see how he could over see the development of multiple Development  underage Squads & assist McHugh at the same time. I would leave him where he is, looking like he is doing a very good job. McHugh could do something in management terms, he needs coaches other than Maxi & his son along with him.

Was Mark Mc Hugh with Fermanagh minors?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 15, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
Could McHugh not bring Lacey in with him in that case Rudi?

Dont see how he could over see the development of multiple Development  underage Squads & assist McHugh at the same time. I would leave him where he is, looking like he is doing a very good job. McHugh could do something in management terms, he needs coaches other than Maxi & his son along with him.

Was Mark Mc Hugh with Fermanagh minors?

Yes 2019 Squad as coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on August 15, 2022, 11:26:47 PM
Mc hugh had spell up his UUJ. Far from impressive was the feedback!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 11:30:53 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 15, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
Could McHugh not bring Lacey in with him in that case Rudi?

Dont see how he could over see the development of multiple Development  underage Squads & assist McHugh at the same time. I would leave him where he is, looking like he is doing a very good job. McHugh could do something in management terms, he needs coaches other than Maxi & his son along with him.

Was Mark Mc Hugh with Fermanagh minors?

Yes 2019 Squad as coach.

Didn't realise it was as far back as that.  Thought it was more recent.

Was he with a county minor set up this year, 2022?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 16, 2022, 12:14:20 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 11:30:53 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 15, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 15, 2022, 10:48:51 PM
Quote from: bannside on August 15, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
Could McHugh not bring Lacey in with him in that case Rudi?

Dont see how he could over see the development of multiple Development  underage Squads & assist McHugh at the same time. I would leave him where he is, looking like he is doing a very good job. McHugh could do something in management terms, he needs coaches other than Maxi & his son along with him.

Was Mark Mc Hugh with Fermanagh minors?

Yes 2019 Squad as coach.

Didn't realise it was as far back as that.  Thought it was more recent.

Was he with a county minor set up this year, 2022?

He was with the Donegal ladies, possibly involved with other teams, dont know.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on August 16, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Mc geeney ratified for another year
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2022, 01:28:49 PM
Ray Dempsey has a strong backroom team with him I think. Interesting to see if he will get it (Mayo job) - with Knockmore trying for three in a row.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 16, 2022, 01:36:30 PM
When are ye expecting white smoke Farr?
Our leisurely process is starting round now with a 5 man Committee set up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 16, 2022, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2022, 01:36:30 PM
When are ye expecting white smoke Farr?
Our leisurely process is starting round now with a 5 man Committee set up.

Interviews this weekend (don't know why it had to wait that long) with white smoke next week according to county secretary.
I'd go for Demspey myself, different voices and looks a good well balanced backroom team
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on August 16, 2022, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: naka on August 16, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Mc geeney ratified for another year

A great reward for all their success last year. In Kieran we trust!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 16, 2022, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2022, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: naka on August 16, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Mc geeney ratified for another year

A great reward for all their success last year. In Kieran we trust!

Most counties measure success in titles won, especially when they are operating in Div 1 or Div 2. It never ceases to amaze me the cult like status McGeeney has in Armagh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 16, 2022, 03:28:17 PM
There was plenty of question marks other years why McGeeney was kept on however not this year after retaining Division 1 status with a few games to spare, reached the last 8 of the championship making an exit on a penalty shootout and last but not least knocking the defending All-Ireland champions Tyrone out of the championship on route.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 16, 2022, 03:31:40 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 16, 2022, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2022, 01:36:30 PM
When are ye expecting white smoke Farr?
Our leisurely process is starting round now with a 5 man Committee set up.

Interviews this weekend (don't know why it had to wait that long) with white smoke next week according to county secretary.
I'd go for Demspey myself, different voices and looks a good well balanced backroom team

Will it matter that a few on that backroom team  don't have a lot if any experience on Senior County management team before?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 16, 2022, 04:08:16 PM
Dempsey reported to have Oisín McConville, Declan O'Keeffe and Keith Higgins on his ticket.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on August 16, 2022, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 16, 2022, 03:31:40 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 16, 2022, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2022, 01:36:30 PM
When are ye expecting white smoke Farr?
Our leisurely process is starting round now with a 5 man Committee set up.

Interviews this weekend (don't know why it had to wait that long) with white smoke next week according to county secretary.
I'd go for Demspey myself, different voices and looks a good well balanced backroom team

Will it matter that a few on that backroom team  don't have a lot if any experience on Senior County management team before?

Hard to know. Each candidate has to do a competency based interview, so maybe that will be one of the competencies they're measuring!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on August 16, 2022, 06:29:20 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 16, 2022, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2022, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: naka on August 16, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Mc geeney ratified for another year

A great reward for all their success last year. In Kieran we trust!

Most counties measure success in titles won, especially when they are operating in Div 1 or Div 2. It never ceases to amaze me the cult like status McGeeney has in Armagh.
An outsiders view there if ever I saw one. McGeeney has as many detractors as supporters within the county, probably more as people really just love to moan & slabber. With this year's undoubted progress they've had to pull their horns in a bit but sure they'll be waiting for their chance - which will eventually come as I don't see us winning an NFL or Sam, maybe an USFC if we get lucky with the draw.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 16, 2022, 06:36:51 PM
I'd be delighted with this year's work by McGeeney if I was an Armagh person.

Plus, who would they replace him with?

Its not a great time to be looking for a new manager with the high profile vacancies currently to be filled.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 16, 2022, 07:33:02 PM
Monday  was the last day for applications to be in, for parties interested in the role of Donegal senior football manager.
Donegal gaa is keeping all parties interested confidential. A 3 team committee is being set up to interview candidates.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: An Watcher on August 16, 2022, 07:54:18 PM
Not sure if the donegal post is as appealing as it once was.  Could still squeeze a bit out of Murphys legs but maybe only a few years left.
As for McGeeney, he made some progress last year but hardly massive strides.  He needs an Ulster title.  Someone said they need to get lucky with the draw.  Derry hardly got lucky in the draw but won it and armagh received an almost perfect draw towards an all ireland final and messed it up. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 16, 2022, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 16, 2022, 07:54:18 PM
Not sure if the donegal post is as appealing as it once was.  Could still squeeze a bit out of Murphys legs but maybe only a few years left.
As for McGeeney, he made some progress last year but hardly massive strides.  He needs an Ulster title.  Someone said they need to get lucky with the draw.  Derry hardly got lucky in the draw but won it and armagh received an almost perfect draw towards an all ireland final and messed it up.

Armagh beat simliar opposition as Derry to reach the All-Ireland quarter final. Both made their championship exits at the hands of Galway. Derry well beaten by Galway and Armagh on a shootout. One messed up and the other didn't with a so called "perfect" draw?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on August 16, 2022, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 16, 2022, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2022, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: naka on August 16, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Mc geeney ratified for another year

A great reward for all their success last year. In Kieran we trust!

Most counties measure success in titles won, especially when they are operating in Div 1 or Div 2. It never ceases to amaze me the cult like status McGeeney has in Armagh.
Mc geeney is doing a decent job in Armagh
Ffs we haven't had a decent under age team on 10 years but are in division 1
It's hardly like we have a conveyor belt like Derry or Tyrone
Actually think he deserves another couple of years
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2022, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: naka on August 16, 2022, 09:59:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 16, 2022, 03:23:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2022, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: naka on August 16, 2022, 11:35:01 AM
Mc geeney ratified for another year

A great reward for all their success last year. In Kieran we trust!

Most counties measure success in titles won, especially when they are operating in Div 1 or Div 2. It never ceases to amaze me the cult like status McGeeney has in Armagh.
Mc geeney is doing a decent job in Armagh
Ffs we haven't had a decent under age team on 10 years but are in division 1
It's hardly like we have a conveyor belt like Derry or Tyrone
Actually think he deserves another couple of years

Fair enough point.

Plus the club situation isn't as strong, or schools for that matter, so he's doing a very decent job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2022, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 16, 2022, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 16, 2022, 07:54:18 PM
Not sure if the donegal post is as appealing as it once was.  Could still squeeze a bit out of Murphys legs but maybe only a few years left.
As for McGeeney, he made some progress last year but hardly massive strides.  He needs an Ulster title.  Someone said they need to get lucky with the draw.  Derry hardly got lucky in the draw but won it and armagh received an almost perfect draw towards an all ireland final and messed it up.

Armagh beat simliar opposition as Derry to reach the All-Ireland quarter final. Both made their championship exits at the hands of Galway. Derry well beaten by Galway and Armagh on a shootout. One messed up and the other didn't with a so called "perfect" draw?

Do we totally discount the fact they were well beaten by Donegal? Could be argued both teams had an off day each in the Championship!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2022, 01:03:14 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 16, 2022, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 16, 2022, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 16, 2022, 07:54:18 PM
Not sure if the donegal post is as appealing as it once was.  Could still squeeze a bit out of Murphys legs but maybe only a few years left.
As for McGeeney, he made some progress last year but hardly massive strides.  He needs an Ulster title.  Someone said they need to get lucky with the draw.  Derry hardly got lucky in the draw but won it and armagh received an almost perfect draw towards an all ireland final and messed it up.

Armagh beat simliar opposition as Derry to reach the All-Ireland quarter final. Both made their championship exits at the hands of Galway. Derry well beaten by Galway and Armagh on a shootout. One messed up and the other didn't with a so called "perfect" draw?

Do we totally discount the fact they were well beaten by Donegal? Could be argued both teams had an off day each in the Championship!

Can be argued that you can discount it as the 2nd Donegal v Armagh game was a season finale for the loser.  Derry's showing their hand in the Ulster championship and then lacking a plan B against Galway was the main issue.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 17, 2022, 06:50:10 AM
History shows when two teams meet again in the championship, the initial loser tends to come out on top. There was an Ulster title this year for Armagh but they bottled it in the 1st round. Don't mind McGeeney but he needs a trophy!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mackers on August 17, 2022, 10:23:48 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 17, 2022, 06:50:10 AM
History shows when two teams meet again in the championship, the initial loser tends to come out on top. There was an Ulster title this year for Armagh but they bottled it in the 1st round. Don't mind McGeeney but he needs a trophy!
I agree.  McGeeney set us up too defensively for the first game in Ballybofey, he tried to take Donegal on at their own game in their back yard. When we played them in Clones we played the style of football that is more natural to this team. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 17, 2022, 11:55:08 AM
Its always hard for a manager to take a team in transition or on a low eb.  For several years under mcgeeney, Armagh were not fancied to do much and didn't have a solid team as they appear to now.  I suppose the country board are recognising that and giving him a turn with a team with potential. 

Similar to McCartan in Down last year, with the team he had available, what was he expected to do? McGeeney could keep a sense of unity amongst the teams he has had, despite their lack of success. 

Regarding the Donegal post, I am not sure who would want it.  I think most people look at the team and think there is an inflated sense of expectation about them due to their recent history and success. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on August 17, 2022, 12:25:33 PM
Must be both galling and embarrassing for McGeeney all the same when he sees Logan and Dooher roll up and win Ulster and All Ireland in one year then Gallagher turns up and wins Ulster.
He there 8 years , is it, and hasn't even reached a final never mind win one. If he wasn't who he was he'd been gone long before now
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 17, 2022, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 17, 2022, 12:25:33 PM
Must be both galling and embarrassing for McGeeney all the same when he sees Logan and Dooher roll up and win Ulster and All Ireland in one year then Gallagher turns up and wins Ulster.
He there 8 years , is it, and hasn't even reached a final never mind win one. If he wasn't who he was he'd been gone long before now

Yes I would agree with that also.  I would stick by my summary that given the teams they had available over the course of his tenure, no manager, having replaced him, would have fared any better, with the exception of this year possibly. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tonto1888 on August 17, 2022, 04:33:03 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 17, 2022, 12:25:33 PM
Must be both galling and embarrassing for McGeeney all the same when he sees Logan and Dooher roll up and win Ulster and All Ireland in one year then Gallagher turns up and wins Ulster.
He there 8 years , is it, and hasn't even reached a final never mind win one. If he wasn't who he was he'd been gone long before now

Hardly embarrassing though
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: pbat on August 17, 2022, 05:18:53 PM
https://twitter.com/DubGAAOfficial/status/1559936887896346629/photo/1

2 more years for Dessie  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 17, 2022, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on August 17, 2022, 11:55:08 AM

Regarding the Donegal post, I am not sure who would want it.  I think most people look at the team and think there is an inflated sense of expectation about them due to their recent history and success.

I think the expectations were well and truly shown to have disappeared this year. We were outnumbered 5:1 in both the Ulster Final and Armagh qualifier games. Cavan outnumbered us too.

Now I'd suggest that was mainly down to general demoralization with the cowardly type of football we were playing rather than confidence in the quality of player we have.

Hopefully whoever gets the job will improve the football and extract the optimum performance levels from the players. If we're not good enough on the talent front, so be it. Personally, I think we've easily enough talent to be seriously challenging for Ulster. Not good enough beyond that though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 17, 2022, 06:30:41 PM
I think Donegal will be at the start of a new cycle.
Tyrone, Armagh and Derry are ahead of them in the pecking order.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.

Elsewhere Tomás Ó Sé looks like he'll be taking on the Kerry U20 management role a few weeks after turning down the senior Offaly post due to work commitments.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 17, 2022, 10:16:35 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 17, 2022, 06:30:41 PM
I think Donegal will be at the start of a new cycle.
Tyrone, Armagh and Derry are ahead of them in the pecking order.

Donegal are going to have to give Michael Murphy one job. He can't be trapsing up and down the field. I'd give him a complete exemption from tracking back. Kerry do the same for Clifford.
Also they have to lose this fear they seem to have of losing and just go for it in games.

They have the players!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 18, 2022, 01:20:18 AM
Quote from: Schkite on August 14, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 12, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Is Counihan the man in Monaghan ??
The rumours are strong

Think so yeah
And yet there's no white smoke.  I fancy Jason Sherlock (not that he will get the job), he's had experience coaching for years with arguably the best ever GAA set up/ county team, he's been a player as well at the top level and I'd be confident that he has the wherewithal to select a good backroom team. And obviously he's highly motivated to be a successful county team manager as he's focused on getting the Monaghan job.
But as Banty says wisely, county team management is akin to running a medium to large sized business, so much to take care of.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 18, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2022, 01:20:18 AM
Quote from: Schkite on August 14, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 12, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Is Counihan the man in Monaghan ??
The rumours are strong

Think so yeah
And yet there's no white smoke.  I fancy Jason Sherlock (not that he will get the job), he's had experience coaching for years with arguably the best ever GAA set up/ county team, he's been a player as well at the top level and I'd be confident that he has the wherewithal to select a good backroom team. And obviously he's highly motivated to be a successful county team manager as he's focused on getting the Monaghan job.
But as Banty says wisely, county team management is akin to running a medium to large sized business, so much to take care of.


The Banty & the adverb Wisely should not really appear in a sentence together. Ever.
Now that I've got that out of the way , I'm also a bit bemused by the lack of white smoke from the Cloghan Kremlin on the new manager
Word was that Counihan wasn't interested , then the word was he was, then the word was he got it , then there's silence
Word was Jayo was the left field choice , then the word was he couldn't pull a back room team together , then he's not interested

We're going to end up with Colm Coyle or Jack McCarville again aren't we !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 18, 2022, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 18, 2022, 01:42:51 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2022, 01:20:18 AM
Quote from: Schkite on August 14, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 12, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Is Counihan the man in Monaghan ??
The rumours are strong

Think so yeah
And yet there's no white smoke.  I fancy Jason Sherlock (not that he will get the job), he's had experience coaching for years with arguably the best ever GAA set up/ county team, he's been a player as well at the top level and I'd be confident that he has the wherewithal to select a good backroom team. And obviously he's highly motivated to be a successful county team manager as he's focused on getting the Monaghan job.
But as Banty says wisely, county team management is akin to running a medium to large sized business, so much to take care of.


The Banty & the adverb Wisely should not really appear in a sentence together. Ever.
Now that I've got that out of the way , I'm also a bit bemused by the lack of white smoke from the Cloghan Kremlin on the new manager
Word was that Counihan wasn't interested , then the word was he was, then the word was he got it , then there's silence
Word was Jayo was the left field choice , then the word was he couldn't pull a back room team together , then he's not interested

We're going to end up with Colm Coyle or Jack McCarville again aren't we !

Banty is 100% correct in what he says though. The skill set required to manage at modern intercounty level is more akin to that of a CEO than a GAA coach. Most county set ups will involve 15-25 backroom staff and 30-45 playing members. So you are left managing an average of 55-60 individuals. It takes a serious all round skill set to knit all of that together and the key is appointing a strong backroom team who you can trust. The days of county managers donning a tracksuit and a whistle are over for any of the top sides. There are plenty of good coaches or club managers out there who just wouldn't fit the skillset required of a modern senior inter county manager where the scrutiny and pressure is much greater. It's definitely become a full time job so that rules out a lot of otherwise good candidates from taking these roles.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 18, 2022, 05:41:44 PM
Is "white smoke" the new GAA buzzword? :)

Been seeing it all over the place the last week or two, when I've never seen it used in this context before.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 18, 2022, 11:24:17 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 18, 2022, 05:41:44 PM
Is "white smoke" the new GAA buzzword? :)

Been seeing it all over the place the last week or two, when I've never seen it used in this context before.

It's a commonly used term when referring to the selection of someone or something
I've seen it used whilst people are referring to GAA managers , soccer managers, planning permission and court cases !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 20, 2022, 04:07:46 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 18, 2022, 11:24:17 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 18, 2022, 05:41:44 PM
Is "white smoke" the new GAA buzzword? :)

Been seeing it all over the place the last week or two, when I've never seen it used in this context before.

It's a commonly used term when referring to the selection of someone or something
I've seen it used whilst people are referring to GAA managers , soccer managers, planning permission and court cases !
Obviously J70 is a heathen and does not quite conceive that the selection process of the next Monaghan manager is equal or greater to the selection of the pope.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on August 20, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.


I'm happy that Dessie wants to go for another two years. Best option out there for the Dubs. Obviously we were very close this year despite missing our most important forward. He's pretty much picking the right players. The bench is weak, but that's just a case of 'it is what it is', it's not like there's a few hidden gems out there that he's missing. But hopefully a couple of lads will put their hand up in the ongoing club championship to provide extra options.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 20, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.


I’m happy that Dessie wants to go for another two years. Best option out there for the Dubs. Obviously we were very close this year despite missing our most important forward. He’s pretty much picking the right players. The bench is weak, but that’s just a case of ‘it is what it is’, it’s not like there’s a few hidden gems out there that he’s missing. But hopefully a couple of lads will put their hand up in the ongoing club championship to provide extra options.

What other options was out there? Only seen Declan Darcy mentioned who ended up taking on another role. Dublin should have plenty of options.

Biggest task for Dessie Farrell is the transition and leaving the team in decent shape for the next manager. Finding replacements for the older guard that haven't long left Michael Fitzsimons, Jonny Cooper, James McCarthy, Dean Rock etc. While introducing new faces into the set up, thus far few of Dublin U20 players the reached All-Ireland finals in 2020, 2019 have become established senior starters.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Hound on August 20, 2022, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.


I'm happy that Dessie wants to go for another two years. Best option out there for the Dubs. Obviously we were very close this year despite missing our most important forward. He's pretty much picking the right players. The bench is weak, but that's just a case of 'it is what it is', it's not like there's a few hidden gems out there that he's missing. But hopefully a couple of lads will put their hand up in the ongoing club championship to provide extra options.

What other options was out there? Only seen Declan Darcy mentioned who ended up taking on another role. Dublin should have plenty of options.

Biggest task for Dessie Farrell is the transition and leaving the team in decent shape for the next manager. Finding replacements for the older guard that haven't long left Michael Fitzsimons, Jonny Cooper, James McCarthy, Dean Rock etc. While introducing new faces into the set up, thus far few of Dublin U20 players the reached All-Ireland finals in 2020, 2019 have become established senior starters.
Well that's it, once Darcy, Gavin and Gilroy showed no interest, it was a no brainer to go with Dessie again.
Sherlock and Bohan would love the job, but they have no friends at county board level, and both would come with doubts anyway. Anyone else would be a big gamble.

I think Rock will be the biggest loss. A reliable long range freetaker is kind of taken for granted when he's there and makes it look easy. Not having a decent long range freetaker was one of the reasons Dubs lost so many big games between end of the 90s and throughout the naughties, and I could see a repeat scenario as there's nobody out there at the moment. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 20, 2022, 11:56:10 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.


I'm happy that Dessie wants to go for another two years. Best option out there for the Dubs. Obviously we were very close this year despite missing our most important forward. He's pretty much picking the right players. The bench is weak, but that's just a case of 'it is what it is', it's not like there's a few hidden gems out there that he's missing. But hopefully a couple of lads will put their hand up in the ongoing club championship to provide extra options.

What other options was out there? Only seen Declan Darcy mentioned who ended up taking on another role. Dublin should have plenty of options.

Biggest task for Dessie Farrell is the transition and leaving the team in decent shape for the next manager. Finding replacements for the older guard that haven't long left Michael Fitzsimons, Jonny Cooper, James McCarthy, Dean Rock etc. While introducing new faces into the set up, thus far few of Dublin U20 players the reached All-Ireland finals in 2020, 2019 have become established senior starters.
Well that's it, once Darcy, Gavin and Gilroy showed no interest, it was a no brainer to go with Dessie again.
Sherlock and Bohan would love the job, but they have no friends at county board level, and both would come with doubts anyway. Anyone else would be a big gamble.

I think Rock will be the biggest loss. A reliable long range freetaker is kind of taken for granted when he's there and makes it look easy. Not having a decent long range freetaker was one of the reasons Dubs lost so many big games between end of the 90s and throughout the naughties, and I could see a repeat scenario as there's nobody out there at the moment.

Good point. The importance of a good consistent free taker should never be underestimated and Dublin more than most have shown that over the last few decades.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 21, 2022, 06:29:35 PM
Offaly man Pat Flanagan and current manager of Padraig Pearses has been nominated by Pearses to become the new Roscommon senior football manager.  Has said they know my CV and know where I am. 

Not sure if that would be a the right appointment for Roscommon, a good and successful club manager but has struggled to make any impact at county level.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 21, 2022, 08:14:56 PM
He's probably the only nomination from a Club.
Will the Committee approach/imterview others?
Hope Pat won't be leading us to the Tailteann Cup in 25.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 21, 2022, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 21, 2022, 06:29:35 PM
Offaly man Pat Flanagan and current manager of Padraig Pearses has been nominated by Pearses to become the new Roscommon senior football manager.  Has said they know my CV and know where I am. 

Not sure if that would be a the right appointment for Roscommon, a good and successful club manager but has struggled to make any impact at county level.

I thought he'd been made Longford manager, or is that another Pat Flanagan?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 21, 2022, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 21, 2022, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 21, 2022, 06:29:35 PM
Offaly man Pat Flanagan and current manager of Padraig Pearses has been nominated by Pearses to become the new Roscommon senior football manager.  Has said they know my CV and know where I am. 

Not sure if that would be a the right appointment for Roscommon, a good and successful club manager but has struggled to make any impact at county level.

I thought he'd been made Longford manager, or is that another Pat Flanagan?

Was linked to the Longford gig by the media and has said today

"It just baffles me at times to see where these stories come from; I've had absolutely no contact with Longford whatsoever"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2022, 10:31:24 PM
New manager found for Mayo and made public tomorrow.

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2022/08/21/new-mayo-gaa-manager-to-be-revealed-tomorrow/

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 21, 2022, 11:34:35 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 21, 2022, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 21, 2022, 08:41:29 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 21, 2022, 06:29:35 PM
Offaly man Pat Flanagan and current manager of Padraig Pearses has been nominated by Pearses to become the new Roscommon senior football manager.  Has said they know my CV and know where I am. 

Not sure if that would be a the right appointment for Roscommon, a good and successful club manager but has struggled to make any impact at county level.

I thought he'd been made Longford manager, or is that another Pat Flanagan?

Was linked to the Longford gig by the media and has said today

"It just baffles me at times to see where these stories come from; I've had absolutely no contact with Longford whatsoever"

Thanks Cunny. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 22, 2022, 06:20:01 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2022, 01:20:18 AM
Quote from: Schkite on August 14, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 12, 2022, 10:40:08 PM
Is Counihan the man in Monaghan ??
The rumours are strong

Think so yeah
And yet there's no white smoke.  I fancy Jason Sherlock (not that he will get the job), he's had experience coaching for years with arguably the best ever GAA set up/ county team, he's been a player as well at the top level and I'd be confident that he has the wherewithal to select a good backroom team. And obviously he's highly motivated to be a successful county team manager as he's focused on getting the Monaghan job.
But as Banty says wisely, county team management is akin to running a medium to large sized business, so much to take care of.

Am hearing a dark horse from the occupied six counties has now entered the race
Comes from a relatively decent source but who the f**k knows what's going on
Heard that Jayo has now pulled a team together also & that Counihan wasn't fancied by a certain grouping of the squad ( the elder statesmen )

It's a f**king lottery
Still think we're going to end up with a total chancer
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 22, 2022, 12:38:52 PM
The Mayo management selection process is like a boy band audition process for the county cabal merry go round. I think its very likely McStay will get the job this time.

As for Monaghan, it would be daft to go for someone like Sherlock who is probably only going to take the job with a short term view. They need a complete rebuild and should be looking to make an appointment internally with the longer term intentions of the county at heart. I'd expect a raft of retirements in Monaghan as a lot of those players have their best days behind them.     
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 05:51:20 PM
Dublin GAA have appointed Micheál Donoghue as senior hurling manager for a three-year term.

Donoghue previously managed his native Galway, leading them to the All-Ireland SHC title in 2017.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Kevin McStay confirmed as the new Mayo senior manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2022, 08:01:55 PM
Surprised  to be honest,  when he was doing commentary you never guess he was a Mayo man the way he put then down half the time, and have a live in for Dublin and Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 22, 2022, 08:18:09 PM
Best of luck to McStay. In reality it's a poisoned chalice as only the big one will do and yet I personally think there'll be a few lean years for a while to come.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 08:24:57 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-stands-down-as-roscommon-manager-1.3619529
Recognising the need for a new voice and direction in Roscommon football, and unable resolve some of the factors currently involved, Kevin McStay has called time on his position as manager.

Although in line to serve another two seasons, McStay leaves on amicable terms with the county board, and, interestingly, said his decision "marks my retirement from senior inter county football management" - thus ruling him out of the recently vacated Mayo management position, or indeed elsewhere.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 22, 2022, 08:24:57 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-stands-down-as-roscommon-manager-1.3619529
Recognising the need for a new voice and direction in Roscommon football, and unable resolve some of the factors currently involved, Kevin McStay has called time on his position as manager.

Although in line to serve another two seasons, McStay leaves on amicable terms with the county board, and, interestingly, said his decision "marks my retirement from senior inter county football management" - thus ruling him out of the recently vacated Mayo management position, or indeed elsewhere.
And only last year on a radio interview he said he'd come out of inter County management retirement if the Mayo senior gig became available again.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 22, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2022, 08:01:55 PM
Surprised  to be honest,  when he was doing commentary you never guess he was a Mayo man the way he put then down half the time, and have a live in for Dublin and Kerry.

McStay hates Dublin but does have a horn for Kerry.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2022, 08:37:53 PM
At least u officially took him off the air.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 22, 2022, 08:51:55 PM
Hopefully Solan or Dempsey will take a big huff & throw their lot in with Roscommon & save us from Flanagan.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: joemamas on August 22, 2022, 09:02:33 PM
Good luck to Kevin McStay. Very happy he got it.
He is a Mayoman at heart, he got totally shafted six or seven years ago.
Onward and upward, I have a lot of respect for Donie Buckley, hopefully Stephen Rochford has something to add as coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 22, 2022, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Kevin McStay confirmed as the new Mayo senior manager.
Ahhh ...... that's nice.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 22, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2022, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Kevin McStay confirmed as the new Mayo senior manager.
Ahhh ...... that's nice.

Maybe he can now get back to loving us again? It's been a while!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 22, 2022, 10:52:49 PM
The hope starts again say David Brady

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-lmfySX2xc
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2022, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Kevin McStay confirmed as the new Mayo senior manager.
Ahhh ...... that's nice.

Maybe he can now get back to loving us again? It's been a while!

You say that like he's not a Mayo man. Has always spoke about his strong desire to manage Mayo seniors above all else. McHale was nearly in tears when he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo again in 2015  as he felt that was his last time to do so.   With Rochford,Buckley also involved it has to be the most stocked Mayo management team ever.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 22, 2022, 11:39:01 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2022, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Kevin McStay confirmed as the new Mayo senior manager.
Ahhh ...... that's nice.

Maybe he can now get back to loving us again? It's been a while!

You say that like he's not a Mayo man. Has always spoke about his strong desire to manage Mayo seniors above all else. McHale was nearly in tears when he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo again in 2015  as he felt that was his last time to do so.   With Rochford,Buckley also involved it has to be the most stocked Mayo management team ever.

There was more than a sense that McStay was hurt by not getting the gig the last time. Articles he wrote, co-commentary on RTE, Analysis on RTE, his time with Roscommon, all felt off key.  There was a lot to be taken from reading between the lines.
A bit like the way Dara O'Se co-commentates on Tyrone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 23, 2022, 12:33:17 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2022, 11:39:01 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2022, 09:39:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Kevin McStay confirmed as the new Mayo senior manager.
Ahhh ...... that's nice.

Maybe he can now get back to loving us again? It's been a while!

You say that like he's not a Mayo man. Has always spoke about his strong desire to manage Mayo seniors above all else. McHale was nearly in tears when he didn't get the opportunity to coach Mayo again in 2015  as he felt that was his last time to do so.   With Rochford,Buckley also involved it has to be the most stocked Mayo management team ever.

There was more than a sense that McStay was hurt by not getting the gig the last time. Articles he wrote, co-commentary on RTE, Analysis on RTE, his time with Roscommon, all felt off key.  There was a lot to be taken from reading between the lines.
A bit like the way Dara O'Se co-commentates on Tyrone.

Was right to be hurt, it was shambles how he wasn't appointed the last time.  Will be plenty to write about and perhaps a volume 2 book if his objectives as Mayo manager are reached.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 10:48:49 AM
Limerick football manager Billy Lee steps down after 6 seasons of relative success leaving them in D2.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 23, 2022, 11:15:22 AM
Reading Shannon's article on McStay it seems to suggest Flanagan has the Rosommon job already??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 12:55:28 PM
Only "news that broke" was Flanagan saying his Club had nominated him. Making it public means the Committee will have to interview him!
His team losing by 14 points will hardly have improved his chances.
Talk that there are a couple of people being pursued..... but hard to know how reliable that might be.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2022, 01:52:49 PM
It's hard to see Mayo winning Sam with a Mayo manager. There is enough data showing that there is a psychological problem that other counties other than Kildare don't have.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 02:06:16 PM
True.
What does he work at I wonder?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: blanketattack on August 23, 2022, 03:25:30 PM
If all Mayo win under McStay's 4 year reign is an FBD Insurance League, you'd have to say it'd be a roaring success.
Anything after that is bonus territory.
Maybe ride off into the sunset with a Tailteann Cup making him the most successful Mayo Manager of the last 70 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: blanketattack on August 23, 2022, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2022, 08:01:55 PM
Surprised  to be honest,  when he was doing commentary you never guess he was a Mayo man the way he put then down half the time, and have a live in for Dublin and Kerry.

McStay hates Dublin but does have a horn for Kerry.

You're joking? I never heard an analyst hate a county as much as McStay hates Kerry, well maybe only surpassed by his hatred for Mayo.
He has a huge man crush on David Clifford albeit.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearsiuil on August 23, 2022, 03:42:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2022, 01:52:49 PM
It's hard to see Galway winning Sam with a Mayo manager. There is enough data showing that there is a psychological problem that other counties other than Kildare don't have.
Error corrected
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 23, 2022, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 23, 2022, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 22, 2022, 08:29:37 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2022, 08:01:55 PM
Surprised  to be honest,  when he was doing commentary you never guess he was a Mayo man the way he put then down half the time, and have a live in for Dublin and Kerry.

McStay hates Dublin but does have a horn for Kerry.

You're joking? I never heard an analyst hate a county as much as McStay hates Kerry, well maybe only surpassed by his hatred for Mayo.
He has a huge man crush on David Clifford albeit.

McStay loves kerry.  I say himself and Marty need a change of jocks after commentating on a kerry game.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 24, 2022, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 10:48:49 AM
Limerick football manager Billy Lee steps down after 6 seasons of relative success leaving them in D2.

Limerick's season was over on June 13th have to wonder why it took him so long to reach that decision, another job elsewhere has caught his eye?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 24, 2022, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.

Where'd ya see that ??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 24, 2022, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 24, 2022, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.

Where'd ya see that ??

In today's Irish News!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cavan19 on August 24, 2022, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.

Bring Back Banty !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 24, 2022, 10:53:52 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.

That all sounds like a bit of a mess. You would have to wonder why the 2 outside men withdrew so late in the day. Meanwhile the only Monaghan man applying for the job was rejected which is bound to have left him peeved. This has the hallmarks of the Down 2021 appointment all over it when McCartan sailed in late in the day to pull his county out of a hole. Banty might end up having to do the same here.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on August 24, 2022, 11:15:57 AM
QuoteThe Irish News understands that former Dublin coach Sherlock, current Ballymun Kickham's and ex-Westmeath manager Brendan Hackett, and outgoing Monaghan minor boss Mark Counihan were all interviewed in the early part of last week.

But having gone through the process, The Irish News understands that Sherlock and Hackett both withdrew their names over the weekend while Counihan was informed that he had not been given the job.


Sounds like a complete disaster of a process.

You'd have to wonder what the hell happened.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 24, 2022, 01:48:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 24, 2022, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 24, 2022, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.

Where'd ya see that ??

In today's Irish News!

Just read it
What a clusterfuck.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 24, 2022, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 24, 2022, 01:48:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 24, 2022, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 24, 2022, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 24, 2022, 09:43:27 AM
I see Monaghan interviewed three for job and now all three are out of process.

Where’d ya see that ??

In today's Irish News!

Just read it
What a clusterfuck.

Will be asking Banty back the way things are going ?

Quote

Monaghan search for a new manager has hit the rocks, with Jason Sherlock among the three candidates interviewed for the job last week all now out of the running.

The Irish News understands that former Dublin coach Sherlock, current Ballymun Kickham’s and ex-Westmeath manager Brendan Hackett, and outgoing Monaghan minor boss Mark Counihan were all interviewed in the early part of last week.

But having gone through the process, The Irish News understands that Sherlock and Hackett both withdrew their names over the weekend while Counihan was informed that he had not been given the job.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 25, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 24, 2022, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 10:48:49 AM
Limerick football manager Billy Lee steps down after 6 seasons of relative success leaving them in D2.

Limerick's season was over on June 13th have to wonder why it took him so long to reach that decision, another job elsewhere has caught his eye?

Lee stepped down due to changing jobs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 25, 2022, 12:35:46 PM
He won't be available for other Counties so.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 25, 2022, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 25, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 24, 2022, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 10:48:49 AM
Limerick football manager Billy Lee steps down after 6 seasons of relative success leaving them in D2.

Limerick's season was over on June 13th have to wonder why it took him so long to reach that decision, another job elsewhere has caught his eye?

Lee stepped down due to changing jobs.

Tomas O'Se turned down the Offaly senior job due to work commitments before then taking the Kerry Under 20 job a week later. Andy McEntee quit Meath and said he needed time away from the inter county bubble before stepping in a few weeks later with Antrim which is around 90 miles away. So Lee could well resurface somewhere else if he got a more suitable job offer. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 25, 2022, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 25, 2022, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 25, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 24, 2022, 12:22:55 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2022, 10:48:49 AM
Limerick football manager Billy Lee steps down after 6 seasons of relative success leaving them in D2.

Limerick's season was over on June 13th have to wonder why it took him so long to reach that decision, another job elsewhere has caught his eye?

Lee stepped down due to changing jobs.

Tomas O'Se turned down the Offaly senior job due to work commitments before then taking the Kerry Under 20 job a week later. Andy McEntee quit Meath and said he needed time away from the inter county bubble before stepping in a few weeks later with Antrim which is around 90 miles away. So Lee could well resurface somewhere else if he got a more suitable job offer.

Yes and won't be surprised if he's linked with a few of the current vacancies.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 25, 2022, 02:19:12 PM
Shaun Paul Barrett  & Malachy O Rourke only candidates for Donegal job. Ouchies.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 25, 2022, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 24, 2022, 11:15:57 AM
QuoteThe Irish News understands that former Dublin coach Sherlock, current Ballymun Kickham's and ex-Westmeath manager Brendan Hackett, and outgoing Monaghan minor boss Mark Counihan were all interviewed in the early part of last week.

But having gone through the process, The Irish News understands that Sherlock and Hackett both withdrew their names over the weekend while Counihan was informed that he had not been given the job.


Sounds like a complete disaster of a process.

You'd have to wonder what the hell happened.
Did the two withdraw their names before or after Counihan was informed that he was not being given the job?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 25, 2022, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 25, 2022, 02:19:12 PM
Shaun Paul Barrett  & Malachy O Rourke only candidates for Donegal job. Ouchies.

Would seem like a good fit.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 25, 2022, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 25, 2022, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 25, 2022, 02:19:12 PM
Shaun Paul Barrett  & Malachy O Rourke only candidates for Donegal job. Ouchies.

Would seem like a good fit.

Yeah but the alternative.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2022, 04:15:44 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0823/1318320-possibilities-abound-as-mcstay-swims-to-native-shore/

Four years on from ending his tenure as Roscommon boss and saying that was that with regard to inter-county management, McStay, now aged 60, has left behind the pundits chair for another go at management. As an analyst he was often quite forensic in getting his point across. There is no doubt he'll bring the same rigour to the role of trying to drive Mayo on.

With the Rossies, he had, as he outlined in his book 'The Pressure Game, Walking the Walk on the County Sideline' to contend with the "online gobshites", who passed comment on him and his team. More of those 'observers' are probably lying in wait to pass their judgement at the first sight of something controversial.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
Probably reading stolensheep. He's too much a 'Rhu' as Rossfan likes to call us for their liking.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 27, 2022, 12:29:09 AM
Look like McStay will need to win Sam for Mayo to avoid such "online gobshites" .

Former Mayo player John Casey comments last year after the All-Ireland final defeat to Tyrone.

I think it is absolutely disgraceful to the highest degree, and particularly on the back of the amateur sports status.

"What people have to put themselves through to get to that level; nobody goes out to make mistakes.

"I know Robbie Hennelly was in a bad way after his final nightmare a few years ago.

"And my feeling is that in the current climate when health and wellbeing are foremost in people's thoughts, for a human being to have a cut at a person over a game of football is a disgrace.

"Are you telling me those players aren't hurt enough without having to read that bullshit?

"That is the part that galls me. Those players will be in a desperate place. I have been there and I know what it feels like. It took me months and months to get over that final in 1996.

"You are laying blame on yourself; I have never watched the video but you get flashbacks of mistakes you made that could have altered the result."

The Mayo GAA statement hailed the 'great progress' made by the side in the 2021 Championship but criticised the online abuse.

It read: "Constructive criticism forms part of the narrative of our games, however, unfortunately over the last few days there have been a number of personal attacks on both players and team management that are completely unnecessary and unacceptable to all involved with Mayo GAA.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2022, 08:47:52 AM
 I can't find the Irish Times article from when he jumped ship in Ros but the gist of it was that the game had developed beyond his skillset. I am very surprised that he took on a very sensitive post.  Maybe there is a secret store of scoring forwards somewhere in Erris.

Football power goes in cycles and Mayo had the province to themselves for the guts of a decade. That is no longer the case with 3 Connacht teams in D1. If the Rossies get a decent manager Mayo could even be third in the regional pecking order.
Counties used to the top  table can fall quite a way back. Everyone in Galway knows that.

Mayo are looking at a big transition. Maybe that is his job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 27, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
Probably reading stolensheep. He's too much a 'Rhu' as Rossfan likes to call us for their liking.

He can Rhu all he likes but his children support Ros💛💙
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on August 27, 2022, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
Probably reading stolensheep. He's too much a 'Rhu' as Rossfan likes to call us for their liking.

He can Rhu all he likes but his children support Ros💛💙

And his Father and Mother supported Galway! Dad played for Tuam Stars!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 27, 2022, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2022, 08:47:52 AM
I can't find the Irish Times article from when he jumped ship in Ros but the gist of it was that the game had developed beyond his skillset. I am very surprised that he took on a very sensitive post.  Maybe there is a secret store of scoring forwards somewhere in Erris.

Football power goes in cycles and Mayo had the province to themselves for the guts of a decade. That is no longer the case with 3 Connacht teams in D1. If the Rossies get a decent manager Mayo could even be third in the regional pecking order.
Counties used to the top  table can fall quite a way back. Everyone in Galway knows that.

Mayo are looking at a big transition. Maybe that is his job.

Don't recall him saying that. Lack of resources Roscommon had seem to take a strain on him and looking at the management team behind him now it doesn't look like he'll have the same issues with Mayo.

In the Irish Times the other day McStay said the rebuild, transition has already been done under Horan. It's about pushing on now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 27, 2022, 04:10:12 PM
Westmeath the latest looking for a new manager. A blow as they were making decent progress under Cooney.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbLEIGpakAE0JX0?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2022, 04:21:54 PM
I thought the long press release after he left Ros was McStay controlling the narrative in the media. He is good at that. It was a master stroke to apply for the Mayo position via the media. He left the county board that had treated him shabbily in the past cornered. His back room team was now out there and it was impressive. In truth if he stayed on with Ros for another year, he was losing a good portion of the panel, but it became a story of resources and manager even using his own credit card. Not saying that wasn't true and it is certainly not a level playing field. But that became the narrative and he was leaving county management for good.  Truth is we'd got walloped in a our Super 8s games, including a 24 point beating to Tyrone in Croke Park and lads were opting out. By the time we were well beaten by 7 points by Donegal in the Hyde and McStay was hopping the ball off the linesman's head, the game was well up. But he crafted a great narrative for his exit in fairness, and the lure now of finally getting a chance to manage his native county (not counting his disastrous and forgotten time as a coach) is a great narrative too. Hopefully if things start going south, no ex Mayo player complains about a "Roscommon man" on sideline! That might require Marty and some cameras in a rain sodden Castlebar.   
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 27, 2022, 06:39:24 PM
Paddy Christie the new Manager of Longford footballers. James Glancy,Dessie Sloyan part of his management.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2022, 07:01:06 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 27, 2022, 04:10:12 PM
Westmeath the latest looking for a new manager. A blow as they were making decent progress under Cooney.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbLEIGpakAE0JX0?format=jpg&name=large)
well done to him. a very interesting and important job.
He was very impressive in interviews during the Tailteann Cup.
They will probably get his replacement in house to keep the buzz going.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2022, 11:07:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2022, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
Probably reading stolensheep. He's too much a 'Rhu' as Rossfan likes to call us for their liking.

He can Rhu all he likes but his children support Ros💛💙

My cousins have similar troubles.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 28, 2022, 07:26:18 AM
Quote from: weareros on August 27, 2022, 04:21:54 PM
I thought the long press release after he left Ros was McStay controlling the narrative in the media. He is good at that. It was a master stroke to apply for the Mayo position via the media. He left the county board that had treated him shabbily in the past cornered. His back room team was now out there and it was impressive. In truth if he stayed on with Ros for another year, he was losing a good portion of the panel, but it became a story of resources and manager even using his own credit card. Not saying that wasn't true and it is certainly not a level playing field. But that became the narrative and he was leaving county management for good.  Truth is we'd got walloped in a our Super 8s games, including a 24 point beating to Tyrone in Croke Park and lads were opting out. By the time we were well beaten by 7 points by Donegal in the Hyde and McStay was hopping the ball off the linesman's head, the game was well up. But he crafted a great narrative for his exit in fairness, and the lure now of finally getting a chance to manage his native county (not counting his disastrous and forgotten time as a coach) is a great narrative too. Hopefully if things start going south, no ex Mayo player complains about a "Roscommon man" on sideline! That might require Marty and some cameras in a rain sodden Castlebar.
Time will tell whether he has it or not
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on August 28, 2022, 05:30:35 PM
Ger Brennan to  be appointed Monaghan manager.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ger-brennan-lined-up-to-become-new-monaghan-senior-football-manager-41943028.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 07:43:09 PM
https://twitter.com/JimmySloyan/status/1041627539679178753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1041627539679178753%7Ctwgr%5Ea7166b8c6dc5e40b249c67a6625e7cbe96fdec85%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fstolen-sheep.proboards.com%2Fthread%2F396%2Fpost-inter-county-managerial-changes%3Fpage%3D64

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 29, 2022, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 28, 2022, 05:30:35 PM
Ger Brennan to  be appointed Monaghan manager.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ger-brennan-lined-up-to-become-new-monaghan-senior-football-manager-41943028.html

This is f**king car crash material

Counihan seemingly not wanted because he had no senior inter county management experience & was black balled by the players as a result , conveniently overlooking the fact that the man has probably the most complete & comprehensive knowledge of the younger players in the County

We now look like we are going to appoint a manager with no inter county management experience & zero knowledge of anyone most likely outside of a small handful of our senior team- and even that would be a superficial level of knowledge.

No semblance of a long term plan or thoughts towards rebuilding the team which is badly needed.

A f**king car crash is putting it kindly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: square_ball on August 29, 2022, 11:38:00 AM
From listening to Ger Brennan on Woolys podcast over the past few years he has very little knowledge of any intercounty team outside his own obviously and the likes of a Mayo or Kerry. Who knows he could be a success with a good backroom team around him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2022, 12:03:40 PM
This week's Ros rumour is former player from around 20 years ago Don Connellan.
He's based in Galway where he managed NUIG and I think Moycullen.
He's from the same Club as the Cathaoirleach.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 29, 2022, 12:25:29 PM
Paddy Christie is a good appointment for Longford.

I think he will bring lots to the table. Wonder if he identify Dubs with Longford blood?
We're a bit light at the moment..............
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 29, 2022, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 29, 2022, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 28, 2022, 05:30:35 PM
Ger Brennan to  be appointed Monaghan manager.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ger-brennan-lined-up-to-become-new-monaghan-senior-football-manager-41943028.html

This is f**king car crash material

Counihan seemingly not wanted because he had no senior inter county management experience & was black balled by the players as a result , conveniently overlooking the fact that the man has probably the most complete & comprehensive knowledge of the younger players in the County

We now look like we are going to appoint a manager with no inter county management experience & zero knowledge of anyone most likely outside of a small handful of our senior team- and even that would be a superficial level of knowledge.

No semblance of a long term plan or thoughts towards rebuilding the team which is badly needed.

A f**king car crash is putting it kindly.
Ger Brennan has been Gaelic Games Executive at UCD since 2015 so should have seen plenty of Monaghan lads in action. He'll probably have good contacts to assemble a decent management/back room team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossie11 on August 29, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 29, 2022, 12:03:40 PM
This week's Ros rumour is former player from around 20 years ago Don Connellan.
He's based in Galway where he managed NUIG and I think Moycullen.
He's from the same Club as the Cathaoirleach.....
Managed Moycullen at a county title and they are one of the front runners again in Galway this year after beating Corofin at the weekend.
Hopefully this is more than a rumour
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 29, 2022, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 29, 2022, 12:25:29 PM
Paddy Christie is a good appointment for Longford.

I think he will bring lots to the table. Wonder if he identify Dubs with Longford blood?
We're a bit light at the moment..............
Does he have to get the green light from the Star Chamber that is the Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 29, 2022, 10:57:57 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 29, 2022, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on August 29, 2022, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on August 28, 2022, 05:30:35 PM
Ger Brennan to  be appointed Monaghan manager.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ger-brennan-lined-up-to-become-new-monaghan-senior-football-manager-41943028.html

This is f**king car crash material

Counihan seemingly not wanted because he had no senior inter county management experience & was black balled by the players as a result , conveniently overlooking the fact that the man has probably the most complete & comprehensive knowledge of the younger players in the County

We now look like we are going to appoint a manager with no inter county management experience & zero knowledge of anyone most likely outside of a small handful of our senior team- and even that would be a superficial level of knowledge.

No semblance of a long term plan or thoughts towards rebuilding the team which is badly needed.

A f**king car crash is putting it kindly.
Ger Brennan has been Gaelic Games Executive at UCD since 2015 so should have seen plenty of Monaghan lads in action. He'll probably have good contacts to assemble a decent management/back room team.

Like I said a superficial at best knowledge of Monaghan football
This might surprise you but there aren't bus loads of young lads heading to UCD from Monaghan
Those that do would number in the less than 100 per year bracket I would say
Those that would play either fresher or Sigerson would number less than 10 possibly less than 5 that he sees every day.
The rest that he sees / hears of via the third level system via word of mouth / jungle telegraph is hardly in-depth knowledge a là Counihan.
Ger Brennan  would be focussing on a those tiny few capable of playing / at a facility where it's possible to play Sigerson level football

Like I said - a f**king car crash

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2022, 09:26:53 AM
Is it only Donegal and Roscommon (from Division 1) that are managerless?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: timmyot501 on August 30, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Ger Brennan not 100% yet...... or is he??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Subbie on August 30, 2022, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: timmyot501 on August 30, 2022, 09:46:25 AM
Ger Brennan not 100% yet...... or is he??

Fear not , our slick and professional County Board will get it sorted  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 30, 2022, 12:09:19 PM
Does Ger Brennan as Manager reflect the perceived status of Monaghan now post Banty?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 30, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
The Monaghan job is a poisoned chalice as they will be favourites for relegation and are unlikely to compete for an Ulster championship again for at least a few years. It requires a complete rebuild and therefore I am surprised it went to an outsider. Banty was loyal to the older players and tried to squeeze one last Ulster title out of them. Problem now is that half the team needs replacing and Ger Brennan or whoever else gets the job is on a hiding to nothing. That said the whole process seems to be a mess and the way they treated their own job applicant looks very shabby. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 30, 2022, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
The Monaghan job is a poisoned chalice as they will be favourites for relegation and are unlikely to compete for an Ulster championship again for at least a few years. It requires a complete rebuild and therefore I am surprised it went to an outsider. Banty was loyal to the older players and tried to squeeze one last Ulster title out of them. Problem now is that half the team needs replacing and Ger Brennan or whoever else gets the job is on a hiding to nothing. That said the whole process seems to be a mess and the way they treated their own job applicant looks very shabby.
Has been that way for them since returning to Division 1 in 2015 will anyone be surprised if they avoid the drop again next year? 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on August 30, 2022, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 30, 2022, 02:29:32 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
The Monaghan job is a poisoned chalice as they will be favourites for relegation and are unlikely to compete for an Ulster championship again for at least a few years. It requires a complete rebuild and therefore I am surprised it went to an outsider. Banty was loyal to the older players and tried to squeeze one last Ulster title out of them. Problem now is that half the team needs replacing and Ger Brennan or whoever else gets the job is on a hiding to nothing. That said the whole process seems to be a mess and the way they treated their own job applicant looks very shabby.
Has been that way for them since returning to Division 1 in 2015 will anyone be surprised if they avoid the drop again next year?
Next season we'll have 4 home games,  probably home against Tyrone, Donegal, Armagh and A.N Other,  we're a safe bet to stay up  :)

On the manager appointment, for me it's a case of wait and see (and hope).
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 30, 2022, 04:28:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2022, 09:26:53 AM
Is it only Donegal and Roscommon (from Division 1) that are managerless?

Nothing coming from us yet.

As the senior club championship heads into Round 4...

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on September 01, 2022, 09:33:39 PM
Theres a star man waiting in the sky. That's this weeks rumour in Roscommon. Don Conellan the week before, Pat Flanagan the week before that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 01, 2022, 11:23:14 PM
Don't forget Sherlock and Rochford in the preceding weeks.....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Main Street on September 02, 2022, 01:25:47 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2022, 04:28:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2022, 09:26:53 AM
Is it only Donegal and Roscommon (from Division 1) that are managerless?

Nothing coming from us yet.

As the senior club championship heads into Round 4...
Well, you have received the O'Rourke snub.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 02, 2022, 06:29:58 AM
Auld mister Brennan is staying with Moorefield

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0901/1320063-blows-for-donegal-and-monaghan-in-manager-hunts/

One of the advantages of the shorter season is that Donegal and Monaghan have 2 extra months to find a manager. Sunningdale for slow learners.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 02, 2022, 04:14:52 PM
Seven football counties are looking to appoint a new manager: Roscommon, Donegal, Monaghan, Wicklow, Limerick, Westmeath and Wexford. Anyone want to guess which county will be last to appoint a new manager?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Taylor on September 02, 2022, 05:14:21 PM
Oisin McConville to Wicklow??

Wouldnt have seen that coming
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2022, 09:02:43 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2022, 05:14:21 PM
Oisin McConville to Wicklow??

Wouldnt have seen that coming

Money will make anything happen. It's a low pressure job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on September 03, 2022, 03:26:54 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2022, 09:02:43 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2022, 05:14:21 PM
Oisin McConville to Wicklow??

Wouldnt have seen that coming

Money will make anything happen. It's a low pressure job.

Will he be able to stay on the podcast circuit?? Bound to be making him a few pound the Wicklow job must be able to replace that income.

Good luck to him he seems a decent sort and clearly loves the game hope he goes well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 03, 2022, 10:26:14 PM
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Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 10, 2022, 09:47:24 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0910/1321709-wexford-to-appoint-john-hegarty-as-new-football-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on September 13, 2022, 10:24:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.


I'm happy that Dessie wants to go for another two years. Best option out there for the Dubs. Obviously we were very close this year despite missing our most important forward. He's pretty much picking the right players. The bench is weak, but that's just a case of 'it is what it is', it's not like there's a few hidden gems out there that he's missing. But hopefully a couple of lads will put their hand up in the ongoing club championship to provide extra options.

What other options was out there? Only seen Declan Darcy mentioned who ended up taking on another role. Dublin should have plenty of options.

Biggest task for Dessie Farrell is the transition and leaving the team in decent shape for the next manager. Finding replacements for the older guard that haven't long left Michael Fitzsimons, Jonny Cooper, James McCarthy, Dean Rock etc. While introducing new faces into the set up, thus far few of Dublin U20 players the reached All-Ireland finals in 2020, 2019 have become established senior starters.

Would expect James Doran, Adam Rafter, Josh Bannon and Mark Lavin from them u20 teams to feature more next year. Peader O'Cofaigh Byrne, Lorcan O'Dell and Brian O'Leary only players from them teams to break through so far.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on September 13, 2022, 10:28:38 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 20, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 20, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 17, 2022, 07:45:01 PM
Dessie Farrell given another two years with Dublin. Not sure if he's the right manager to lead them through their current transition but that ends the speculation that his time with Dublin was over.


I'm happy that Dessie wants to go for another two years. Best option out there for the Dubs. Obviously we were very close this year despite missing our most important forward. He's pretty much picking the right players. The bench is weak, but that's just a case of 'it is what it is', it's not like there's a few hidden gems out there that he's missing. But hopefully a couple of lads will put their hand up in the ongoing club championship to provide extra options.

What other options was out there? Only seen Declan Darcy mentioned who ended up taking on another role. Dublin should have plenty of options.

Biggest task for Dessie Farrell is the transition and leaving the team in decent shape for the next manager. Finding replacements for the older guard that haven't long left Michael Fitzsimons, Jonny Cooper, James McCarthy, Dean Rock etc. While introducing new faces into the set up, thus far few of Dublin U20 players the reached All-Ireland finals in 2020, 2019 have become established senior starters.
Well that's it, once Darcy, Gavin and Gilroy showed no interest, it was a no brainer to go with Dessie again.
Sherlock and Bohan would love the job, but they have no friends at county board level, and both would come with doubts anyway. Anyone else would be a big gamble.

I think Rock will be the biggest loss. A reliable long range freetaker is kind of taken for granted when he's there and makes it look easy. Not having a decent long range freetaker was one of the reasons Dubs lost so many big games between end of the 90s and throughout the naughties, and I could see a repeat scenario as there's nobody out there at the moment.

Would like see Con take the frees next year ahead of Costello if Rock not starting. Comerford can take 45s/long range frees. Fionn Murray and Ciaran Archer  have potential to be decent freetakers but need to contribute more from play.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 15, 2022, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2022, 04:14:52 PM
Seven football counties are looking to appoint a new manager: Roscommon, Donegal, Monaghan, Wicklow, Limerick, Westmeath and Wexford. Anyone want to guess which county will be last to appoint a new manager?
Afaik Wicklow and Wexford have appointed managers. Does that leave Ros, Donegal, Monaghan, Limerick and Westmeath?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sleater on September 15, 2022, 07:18:32 PM
For Monaghan the latest rumour is Vinny Corey is in the running. Adding fuel to the fire is that his brother Martin (after 4 years) is not going to be coaching Cavan for 2023. After a few red herrings, this does seem like the one that is going to come to fruition. Might be possible that Eoin Lennon might be involved too but hard to know.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:39:08 PM
Ronan O Neill from Tyrone has been added to the Fermanagh backroom team.
Hasn't coached or managed anybody( still playing club football for Omagh) but sure why would that matter
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: In hiding on September 15, 2022, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:39:08 PM
Ronan O Neill from Tyrone has been added to the Fermanagh backroom team.
Hasn't coached or managed anybody( still playing club football for Omagh) but sure why would that matter
He is coaching.
He has obviously coached before.
Would you prefer someone who has coached county level before but who has proven to be average.
Maybe Fermanagh aren't the most attractive proposition for a coach.
Maybe you should be glad he accepted the offer
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on September 15, 2022, 07:47:16 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:39:08 PM
Ronan O Neill from Tyrone has been added to the Fermanagh backroom team.
Hasn't coached or managed anybody( still playing club football for Omagh) but sure why would that matter

Was Ronan O'Neill forwards coach for Tyrone 2/3 years ago?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:49:01 PM
Quote from: In hiding on September 15, 2022, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:39:08 PM
Ronan O Neill from Tyrone has been added to the Fermanagh backroom team.
Hasn't coached or managed anybody( still playing club football for Omagh) but sure why would that matter
He is coaching.
He has obviously coached before.
Would you prefer someone who has coached county level before but who has proven to be average.
Maybe Fermanagh aren't the most attractive proposition for a coach.
Maybe you should be glad he accepted the offer

Glad he accepted it.
Catch yourself on .
He should neve have been offered it.
Where has he coached ?

Outside of school teams and youth teams in Omagh tell me where he has coached ?
What senior teams ?

If Tyrone announced Sean Quigley as the new forwards coach their would be uproar.


Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: In hiding on September 15, 2022, 07:53:14 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:49:01 PM
Quote from: In hiding on September 15, 2022, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 07:39:08 PM
Ronan O Neill from Tyrone has been added to the Fermanagh backroom team.
Hasn't coached or managed anybody( still playing club football for Omagh) but sure why would that matter
He is coaching.
He has obviously coached before.
Would you prefer someone who has coached county level before but who has proven to be average.
Maybe Fermanagh aren't the most attractive proposition for a coach.
Maybe you should be glad he accepted the offer

Glad he accepted it.
Catch yourself on .
He should neve have been offered it.
Where has he coached ?

Outside of school teams and youth teams in Omagh tell me where he has coached ?
What senior teams ?

If Tyrone announced Sean Quigley as the new forwards coach their would be uproar.

Would you believe he was offered a coaching job with Tyrone seniors two years ago ?

Not Sean Quigley
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 15, 2022, 08:11:54 PM
Offered a job

Did he take it ?

What senior teams has he coached ?

I am sure Ronans is a great fella but he should not be cutting his teeth with Fermanagh.
He has no previous experience .



Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: In hiding on September 15, 2022, 08:25:42 PM
You may be correct.

He might also be a great addition to the Fermanagh set up.

People love to get annoyed about stuff
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 15, 2022, 08:48:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 15, 2022, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2022, 04:14:52 PM
Seven football counties are looking to appoint a new manager: Roscommon, Donegal, Monaghan, Wicklow, Limerick, Westmeath and Wexford. Anyone want to guess which county will be last to appoint a new manager?
Afaik Wicklow and Wexford have appointed managers. Does that leave Ros, Donegal, Monaghan, Limerick and Westmeath?

Yes john Hegarty the new Wexford manager and Oisin McConville Wicklow

Three of the five seeking managers have Div 1 football next year. Limerick have Div 2 football while Westmeath should be pushing hard to gain promotion to Div 2.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 16, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
What's the craic with Roscommon and their managerial appointment or lack thereof?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 16, 2022, 06:39:28 PM
All will be revealed in good time Faraín ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on September 16, 2022, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 16, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
What's the craic with Roscommon and their managerial appointment or lack thereof?

We are trying to decide between Jim Gavin, Eamon Fitzmaurice or take a chance on Star. Also waiting to hear back from all 3. Phone should ring any minute now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 16, 2022, 08:35:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 16, 2022, 06:39:28 PM
All will be revealed in good time Faraín ;D
I heard Ros were waiting for Santy
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 16, 2022, 10:17:16 PM
Just can't believe it took so long after the championship for Cunningham to formally step away from the role, and a replacement hasn't been found.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 17, 2022, 08:48:37 AM
It's thought the CB expected him to stay for his option of a 3rd year.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 17, 2022, 08:19:17 PM
It's a bit weird that 3 division 1 teams are still looking for a manager when most of the Tailteann crowd have sorted out theirs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 17, 2022, 09:05:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2022, 08:19:17 PM
It's a bit weird that 3 division 1 teams are still looking for a manager when most of the Tailteann crowd have sorted out theirs.

Low pressure jobs v the most high pressure and more expectations. 

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bannside on September 18, 2022, 10:59:50 AM
Does anyone actually even give one fig who takes Roscommon? See page one...lol.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 18, 2022, 08:02:24 PM
Tony McManus was class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxxvA4BV_Zs
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 21, 2022, 02:51:36 PM
Dessie Dolan to become the new Westmeath manager

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0921/1324630-dessie-dolan-set-to-take-reins-in-westmeath/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 21, 2022, 06:56:17 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0921/1324669-monaghan-moving-closer-to-naming-new-football-boss/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on September 21, 2022, 07:45:35 PM
Still nothing out of Donegal.

And we're down to the last four in the championship.

Might end up having to get McEniff set up to go again. It's fifty years since he guided us to our first Ulster. Has an 80 year old ever patrolled the sideline before?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 21, 2022, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 21, 2022, 07:45:35 PM
Still nothing out of Donegal.

And we're down to the last four in the championship.

Might end up having to get McEniff set up to go again. It's fifty years since he guided us to our first Ulster. Has an 80 year old ever patrolled the sideline before?

Sean Boylan i think is part of O'Rourke Meaths management and Billy Morgan still involved with UCC both would be around the same age as McEniff.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on September 21, 2022, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: J70 on September 21, 2022, 07:45:35 PM
Still nothing out of Donegal.

And we're down to the last four in the championship.

Might end up having to get McEniff set up to go again. It's fifty years since he guided us to our first Ulster. Has an 80 year old ever patrolled the sideline before?

Mickey Whelan was around 78 when coaching Dublin hurlers a  few years ago. He has managed various teams in Vincents since that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 22, 2022, 05:54:02 PM
From the Irish independent



Vinny Corey is to be appointed the new Monaghan football manager.


Monaghan will bring their exhaustive search for a replacement for Seamus McEnaney to an end later with Corey's approval.

It is expected that he will have his brother Martin at his side as a coach. Martin Corey has been with Mickey Graham in Cavan in recent years.

Other backroom appointments are expected by Corey who had a long and distinguished career as a Monaghan footballer, winning two Ulster titles in 2013 and 2015, before retiring in late 2019.

Corey is a Clontibret clubmate of Conor McManus and the expectation is now that the veteran forward will commit for another year.

Corey had been part of McEnaney's backroom team in 2021 and 2022, working as a coach and selector.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 23, 2022, 12:12:28 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 22, 2022, 05:54:02 PM
From the Irish independent



Vinny Corey is to be appointed the new Monaghan football manager.


Monaghan will bring their exhaustive search for a replacement for Seamus McEnaney to an end later with Corey's approval.

It is expected that he will have his brother Martin at his side as a coach. Martin Corey has been with Mickey Graham in Cavan in recent years.

Other backroom appointments are expected by Corey who had a long and distinguished career as a Monaghan footballer, winning two Ulster titles in 2013 and 2015, before retiring in late 2019.

Corey is a Clontibret clubmate of Conor McManus and the expectation is now that the veteran forward will commit for another year.

Corey had been part of McEnaney's backroom team in 2021 and 2022, working as a coach and selector.

Willy Moen not getting the job then?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ash Smoker on September 23, 2022, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 21, 2022, 02:51:36 PM
Dessie Dolan to become the new Westmeath manager

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0921/1324630-dessie-dolan-set-to-take-reins-in-westmeath/

He plays it safe on his co-commentary and isn't controversial.
What will he be like in the dressing room?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 27, 2022, 05:58:53 PM
Ros and Donegal still managerless  :-[
By all accounts/rumours/whispers we're nowhere near having a "preferred candidate" never mind a manager.
Noel Dunning, one of AC's aides appointed u20 manager.
Some people will be underwhelmed!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 27, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
Does Ros need a Novena?
Donegal could go to Lough Derg for the dry bread.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 28, 2022, 08:49:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 27, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
Does Ros need a Novena?
Donegal could go to Lough Derg for the dry bread.

Roscommon could go to Knock.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearbrags on September 28, 2022, 02:49:13 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 28, 2022, 08:49:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 27, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
Does Ros need a Novena?
Donegal could go to Lough Derg for the dry bread.

Roscommon could go to Knock.

Sure we are already  running up down from  Bekon (The Connacht GAA Centre of Excellence)  which is just down the road from Knock  ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on September 28, 2022, 02:57:23 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 28, 2022, 08:49:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 27, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
Does Ros need a Novena?
Donegal could go to Lough Derg for the dry bread.

Roscommon could go to Knock.

Great place to get a county crest sticker for the back of the car and a padre pio one for the front.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Owenmoresider on October 03, 2022, 08:24:30 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 28, 2022, 08:49:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 27, 2022, 06:08:45 PM
Does Ros need a Novena?
Donegal could go to Lough Derg for the dry bread.

Roscommon could go to Knock.
It seems they have gone to Kerry instead.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Saffrongael on October 03, 2022, 08:39:06 PM
Donaghy & Galvin would be an expensive ticket you would guess
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 03, 2022, 08:48:49 PM


Reported tonight that Kieran Donaghy is to become the new Roscommon manager with Paul Galvin on his management team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mackers on October 03, 2022, 08:55:43 PM
Real bad news for Armagh......
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on October 03, 2022, 09:02:55 PM
Knew it wouldn't go down well in Armagh. An overwhelming appointment, fair play. Looks like a very good coach. Hopefully he can sort out our flakyness & defensive woes. He has a job on his hands.

What ya think of that Joe Brolly.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 03, 2022, 09:24:43 PM
Local journalist thinks it's not true :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on October 03, 2022, 09:35:02 PM
Is there a source other than The Connaught Telegraph?
They would have a poor tracker record in Mayo for publishing what amounts to little more than rumour.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 03, 2022, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 03, 2022, 09:24:43 PM
Local journalist thinks it's not true :o

Connaught Telegraph announced it, next thing a well known Mayo journalist dismisses it. Mad stuff altogether.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on October 03, 2022, 09:38:06 PM
Connacht Telegraph, >:(
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: pbat on October 03, 2022, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 03, 2022, 09:38:06 PM
Connacht Telegraph, >:(

https://twitter.com/starryboy14/status/1577034246299869185
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 03, 2022, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on October 03, 2022, 09:35:02 PM
Is there a source other than The Connaught Telegraph?
They would have a poor tracker record in Mayo for publishing what amounts to little more than rumour.

Was no other and any breaking news article from Connaught Telegraph comes with a health warning.

Pat Flanagan or the return of Fergal O'Donnell seems like the only options for Roscommon at the moment.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on October 03, 2022, 10:28:48 PM
Gaelic LIfe reckon Donaghy is staying in Armagh
https://twitter.com/Gaelic_Life/status/1577032429952442368
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 03, 2022, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 03, 2022, 10:28:48 PM
Gaelic LIfe reckon Donaghy is staying in Armagh
https://twitter.com/Gaelic_Life/status/1577032429952442368
Donaghy has put the rumour to bed himself.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: armaghniac on October 03, 2022, 10:35:08 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/whatsapp-rumours-are-a-scary-thing-kieran-donaghy-rubbishes-report-of-roscommon-appointment-42037427.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 03, 2022, 11:12:30 PM
Seems our new manager will be appointed by County Final day (23/10).
Allegedly/rumoured that the people to be interviewed are
Fergal O'Donnell
Nigel Dineen
Pat Flanagan
James McCartan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 04, 2022, 09:44:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 03, 2022, 11:12:30 PM
Seems our new manager will be appointed by County Final day (23/10).
Allegedly/rumoured that the people to be interviewed are
Fergal O'Donnell
Nigel Dineen
Pat Flanagan
James McCartan.

Who would you prefer out of the four?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 05, 2022, 08:55:47 AM
FO'D.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on October 06, 2022, 10:21:04 AM
Fág an bealach
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1005/1327416-joyce-set-for-three-more-years-with-tribesmen/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 06, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
Ray Dempsey linked with Limerick job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 06, 2022, 08:17:31 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 06, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
Ray Dempsey linked with Limerick job.
Right time for Dempsey to move on from Knockmore as has taken them as far as he could? Div 2 is a decent place to start senior inter county management will be low expectations with Limerick also.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on October 07, 2022, 01:19:02 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1007/1327737-early-retirement-for-orourke-to-fully-focus-on-meath/
Colm O'Rourke has said he will take early retirement from his role as school principal in order to concentrate fully on the Meath senior football management position.
O'Rourke also revealed that as well as having Stephen Bray, Barry Callaghan, Paul Garrigan and Eugene Eivers in his backroom team, there would also be a role for Sean Boylan, the man who managed the Royals to Sam Maguire glory in 1987, 1988, 1996 and 1999.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on October 07, 2022, 02:41:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 07, 2022, 01:19:02 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1007/1327737-early-retirement-for-orourke-to-fully-focus-on-meath/
Colm O'Rourke has said he will take early retirement from his role as school principal in order to concentrate fully on the Meath senior football management position.
O'Rourke also revealed that as well as having Stephen Bray, Barry Callaghan, Paul Garrigan and Eugene Eivers in his backroom team, there would also be a role for Sean Boylan, the man who managed the Royals to Sam Maguire glory in 1987, 1988, 1996 and 1999.

I am going to enjoy watching this fall asunder.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 07, 2022, 03:59:23 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 06, 2022, 11:38:32 AM
Ray Dempsey linked with Limerick job.

Appointed this afternoon. That was quick, i presume is was done behind the scenes before it was leaked.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 07, 2022, 07:39:18 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 07, 2022, 02:41:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 07, 2022, 01:19:02 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1007/1327737-early-retirement-for-orourke-to-fully-focus-on-meath/
Colm O'Rourke has said he will take early retirement from his role as school principal in order to concentrate fully on the Meath senior football management position.
O'Rourke also revealed that as well as having Stephen Bray, Barry Callaghan, Paul Garrigan and Eugene Eivers in his backroom team, there would also be a role for Sean Boylan, the man who managed the Royals to Sam Maguire glory in 1987, 1988, 1996 and 1999.

I am going to enjoy watching this fall asunder.

So am I.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 07, 2022, 08:02:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 07, 2022, 01:19:02 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/1007/1327737-early-retirement-for-orourke-to-fully-focus-on-meath/
Colm O'Rourke has said he will take early retirement from his role as school principal in order to concentrate fully on the Meath senior football management position.
O’Rourke also revealed that as well as having Stephen Bray, Barry Callaghan, Paul Garrigan and Eugene Eivers in his backroom team, there would also be a role for Sean Boylan, the man who managed the Royals to Sam Maguire glory in 1987, 1988, 1996 and 1999.

Not the names that BillyFlynnfromTrim was expecting.

" Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach"

Lesson to be learnt there. Don't believe all you hear on the Meath podcasts.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 10, 2022, 12:33:52 AM
Irish Examiner reporting that former Galway and Sligo manager Kevin Walsh is in line to join John Cleary's Cork senior football set-up as coach in 2023
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 10, 2022, 06:26:47 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 10, 2022, 12:33:52 AM
Irish Examiner reporting that former Galway and Sligo manager Kevin Walsh is in line to join John Cleary's Cork senior football set-up as coach in 2023

From what I remember him he was fairly critical about Cork after the Cork Galway game in the league last year on the Examiner podcast.

I mean Galway did score 3-22 but interesting that he has thrown his lot in with them.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 11, 2022, 09:59:38 AM
Seems Tom Cribbin is to be our new man (this week!!)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/942816/has-rory-kavanagh-withdrawn-from-donegal-managers-race.html

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 20, 2022, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/942816/has-rory-kavanagh-withdrawn-from-donegal-managers-race.html

Apparently McEniff said it was partly down to the online abuse he received after the county final.

Who do we turn to now?

Shaun Paul Barrett?

Would make it a good month for his household after his daughter's heroics for Ireland.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 01:19:05 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/942816/has-rory-kavanagh-withdrawn-from-donegal-managers-race.html

Apparently McEniff said it was partly down to the online abuse he received after the county final.

Who do we turn to now?

Shaun Paul Barrett?

I think its a pity for Donegal that Kavanagh won't take it, thats if reports are true. Donegal are like Roscommon, the process is dragging out & not too many suitable candidates are letting their names go forward. Its a bit shocking a team playing top tier football like Donegal, can't find a manager. Potential candidates must feel Donegal & Roscommon are on a downward spiral.

Would make it a good month for his household after his daughter's heroics for Ireland.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Goldengreen on October 20, 2022, 01:38:31 PM
Donegal News reporting that they might turn to Aidan O'Rourke.

https://twitter.com/Donegal_News/status/1583010050322231297
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 02:08:38 PM
I wonder will he advertise for an s&c coach on donedeal or LinkedIn  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on October 20, 2022, 02:16:52 PM
aidan o rourke, sweet jesus! how do u go from number 2 at down where they couldn't win a game to manager of a div 1 team. alan pardew of the gaa!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 20, 2022, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 01:19:05 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/942816/has-rory-kavanagh-withdrawn-from-donegal-managers-race.html

Apparently McEniff said it was partly down to the online abuse he received after the county final.

Who do we turn to now?

Shaun Paul Barrett?


Would make it a good month for his household after his daughter's heroics for Ireland.


I think its a pity for Donegal that Kavanagh won't take it, thats if reports are true. Donegal are like Roscommon, the process is dragging out & not too many suitable candidates are letting their names go forward. Its a bit shocking a team playing top tier football like Donegal, can't find a manager. Potential candidates must feel Donegal & Roscommon are on a downward spiral.

That's where we're at. Its not just the supporters who are disillusioned with Donegal football.

That said, plenty would start to come back if we would leave the negative, fearful shite behind and play some football where we're having a go. If we get a few hammerings along the way, so be it. But the bilge they've served up since that 2020 Ulster Final has to end somewhere. Getting hammered by Armagh was no fun whatsoever, and worrying, but what was far worse were those last 90 seconds of normal time against Derry when we had the ball but wouldn't take a chance to go up the field to try to win the game.

Whoever the new man ends up being, there has to be some marching orders going in on the style of play and a reassurance that patience will accompany any positive change in approach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 01:19:05 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/942816/has-rory-kavanagh-withdrawn-from-donegal-managers-race.html

Apparently McEniff said it was partly down to the online abuse he received after the county final.

Who do we turn to now?

Shaun Paul Barrett?


Would make it a good month for his household after his daughter's heroics for Ireland.


I think its a pity for Donegal that Kavanagh won't take it, thats if reports are true. Donegal are like Roscommon, the process is dragging out & not too many suitable candidates are letting their names go forward. Its a bit shocking a team playing top tier football like Donegal, can't find a manager. Potential candidates must feel Donegal & Roscommon are on a downward spiral.

That's where we're at. Its not just the supporters who are disillusioned with Donegal football.

That said, plenty would start to come back if we would leave the negative, fearful shite behind and play some football where we're having a go. If we get a few hammerings along the way, so be it. But the bilge they've served up since that 2020 Ulster Final has to end somewhere. Getting hammered by Armagh was no fun whatsoever, and worrying, but what was far worse were those last 90 seconds of normal time against Derry when we had the ball but wouldn't take a chance to go up the field to try to win the game.

Whoever the new man ends up being, there has to be some marching orders going in on the style of play and a reassurance that patience will accompany any positive change in approach.

Would agree with all that, I take it your happy the manager of the recent county champions, didnt let his name go forward.
Brand of football is awful.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: referee on October 20, 2022, 06:52:05 PM
Mal O Rourke especially if they get beat on Sunday or early Ulster??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 20, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
Only 1 man for it, Michael Murphy
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 21, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
The identity of the new Roscommon senior football manager will be known next week. Special county board meeting on Wednesday next where it is expected that a name will be brought forward for ratification.  Pat Flanagan current Padraig Pearses still in the running and if rumours are to believed current Ballymun manager Brendan Hackett and Davy Burke who led Kildare U20s to the 2018 All Ireland title are the other candidates.     
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 22, 2022, 02:37:22 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 20, 2022, 01:19:05 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 01:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rudi on October 19, 2022, 09:53:20 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/942816/has-rory-kavanagh-withdrawn-from-donegal-managers-race.html

Apparently McEniff said it was partly down to the online abuse he received after the county final.

Who do we turn to now?

Shaun Paul Barrett?


Would make it a good month for his household after his daughter's heroics for Ireland.


I think its a pity for Donegal that Kavanagh won't take it, thats if reports are true. Donegal are like Roscommon, the process is dragging out & not too many suitable candidates are letting their names go forward. Its a bit shocking a team playing top tier football like Donegal, can't find a manager. Potential candidates must feel Donegal & Roscommon are on a downward spiral.

That's where we're at. Its not just the supporters who are disillusioned with Donegal football.

That said, plenty would start to come back if we would leave the negative, fearful shite behind and play some football where we're having a go. If we get a few hammerings along the way, so be it. But the bilge they've served up since that 2020 Ulster Final has to end somewhere. Getting hammered by Armagh was no fun whatsoever, and worrying, but what was far worse were those last 90 seconds of normal time against Derry when we had the ball but wouldn't take a chance to go up the field to try to win the game.

Whoever the new man ends up being, there has to be some marching orders going in on the style of play and a reassurance that patience will accompany any positive change in approach.

Would agree with all that, I take it your happy the manager of the recent county champions, didnt let his name go forward.
Brand of football is awful.

Indeed.

I don't know Regan and you can't really blame NC trying to maximize what they can get from their pick, but those tactics are unwatchable and a spent force at intercounty level.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 22, 2022, 02:40:53 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 20, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
Only 1 man for it, Michael Murphy

I seriously doubt he has the time.

I believe he's getting married soon, he is not too far into his career at the ATU in Letterkenny, has the shop and is still playing club and county.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
latest on Donegal.  Paddy Carr has been around the the club scene over the last number of years .
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/10/21/news/paddy_carr_and_aidan_o_rourke_joint_ticket_tipped_for_donegal_job-2869488/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 23, 2022, 11:10:21 AM
Lads aside from County is anyone else noticing a scramble at club level too.
In Kildare there are a lot of decent senior clubs looking for new coaches.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 23, 2022, 01:22:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 23, 2022, 11:10:21 AM
Lads aside from County is anyone else noticing a scramble at club level too.
In Kildare there are a lot of decent senior clibs looking for new coaches.

Even in Leitrim that's the case. The two finalists was managed by Former Sligo footballer Eamon O'Hara and Alan Flynn who led Galways U21s to the AI. He's off to Tipperary as a coach for Liam Kearns
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: pjm on October 23, 2022, 08:11:40 PM
Perhaps the clubs don't have the money to be lashing out on the managers anymore
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 23, 2022, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
latest on Donegal.  Paddy Carr has been around the the club scene over the last number of years .
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/10/21/news/paddy_carr_and_aidan_o_rourke_joint_ticket_tipped_for_donegal_job-2869488/

Rumours are that they're going to be announced tomorrow night.

Shambles of a process to find them, but best of luck to them. Hope they're up to the task. At least they're starting from a fairly low point.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 23, 2022, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 23, 2022, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2022, 02:42:57 PM
latest on Donegal.  Paddy Carr has been around the the club scene over the last number of years .
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/10/21/news/paddy_carr_and_aidan_o_rourke_joint_ticket_tipped_for_donegal_job-2869488/

Rumours are that they're going to be announced tomorrow night.

Shambles of a process to find them, but best of luck to them. Hope they're up to the task. At least they're starting from a fairly low point.

Published in the media tonight looks like a done deal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 24, 2022, 09:28:30 PM
Paddy Carr has been ratified as the new Donegal senior football team manager with Aidan O'Rourke appointed as his head coach.


That leaves just Roscommon to appoint a manager. County board meeting to be held on Wednesday.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 24, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
Murphy would been a better bet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Snapchap on October 25, 2022, 08:00:51 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 24, 2022, 09:43:00 PM
Murphy would been a better bet.
A man who has never managed a team in his life?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Onthe40 on October 25, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
What's Donegals supporters school of thought on this appointment?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 25, 2022, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 25, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
What's Donegals supporters school of thought on this appointment?

Personally, can't say I'm thrilled, but let's give them a chance and see how they do.

It's been grim as f**k the past two years.

They can't work miracles and uncover two or three intercounty standard defenders that just aren't there in the county, but hopefully they'll at least get us motoring up front again and playing positive football. No one is expecting All Irelands.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 25, 2022, 05:10:43 PM
Caption time.


(https://www.irishexaminer.com/cms_media/module_img/6518/3259010_3_articlelarge_2357905.jpg)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on October 25, 2022, 05:40:17 PM
Jez, anyone would be better than Declan Bonner and his entourage.

From a promising start they proceeded to turn a young group of players into the most fearful/unadventurous bunch ever.

With the most depressing brand of football.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armagh18 on October 25, 2022, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 25, 2022, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: Onthe40 on October 25, 2022, 10:18:28 AM
What's Donegals supporters school of thought on this appointment?

Personally, can't say I'm thrilled, but let's give them a chance and see how they do.

It's been grim as f**k the past two years.

They can't work miracles and uncover two or three intercounty standard defenders that just aren't there in the county, but hopefully they'll at least get us motoring up front again and playing positive football. No one is expecting All Irelands.
The potential is surely there as seen by the hammering ye gave us in Ulster last year and even in the qualifier were the better team for a lot of the first half
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on October 26, 2022, 09:22:06 AM
I think the most interesting thing about this process was how long it took for 3 division 1 teams- Ros, Donegal and Monaghan- to get a new manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 26, 2022, 09:59:06 AM
We should have one tonight.....
Obviously not many people can or want to give the commitment to be a Senior Co manager. Anyone with a full time day job is as good as ruled out nowadays plus there might not be the €€€ sloshing around Gaaworld post Covid.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shark on October 26, 2022, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2022, 09:59:06 AM
We should have one tonight.....
Obviously not many people can or want to give the commitment to be a Senior Co manager. Anyone with a full time day job is as good as ruled out nowadays plus there might not be the €€€ sloshing around Gaaworld post Covid.

This is exactly it. Expectations gone through the roof. And seeing the same issue at club level, albeit to a lesser degree. You'd want to have very little else going on in your life.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on October 26, 2022, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 26, 2022, 09:59:06 AM
We should have one tonight.....
Obviously not many people can or want to give the commitment to be a Senior Co manager. Anyone with a full time day job is as good as ruled out nowadays plus there might not be the €€€ sloshing around Gaaworld post Covid.

Logan & Dooher  both full time demanding jobs and still win the AI
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 26, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
Davy Burke confirmed with Roscommon. Mark McHugh as coach

https://t.co/cKcxsBzsWU
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on October 26, 2022, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 26, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
Davy Burke confirmed with Roscommon. Mark McHugh as coach

https://t.co/cKcxsBzsWU
Presumably underwhelming in Knockcroghery and in the hinterlands of Boyle and Strokestown
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: weareros on October 26, 2022, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 26, 2022, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 26, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
Davy Burke confirmed with Roscommon. Mark McHugh as coach

https://t.co/cKcxsBzsWU
Presumably underwhelming in Knockcroghery and in the hinterlands of Boyle and Strokestown

Of the final 3 (Burke, Flanagan, Hackett) think he was best choice even if backroom team is still unknown. He is young but already has an impressive cv including u20 All-Ireland and county title in Kildare. Wishing Davy very best of luck. There's still plenty of talent in current panel and a good crop coming up. But will be a baptism of fire trying to retain Div 1, and a tough Connacht draw.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 27, 2022, 01:04:06 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 26, 2022, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on October 26, 2022, 08:51:16 PM
Davy Burke confirmed with Roscommon. Mark McHugh as coach

https://t.co/cKcxsBzsWU
Presumably underwhelming in Knockcroghery and in the hinterlands of Boyle and Strokestown

Out of interest why do you presume that? the three remaining options was well touted and looks to be the best pick of the 3.  McHugh involved is interesting choice of coach.  Selectors to be Rossies?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 27, 2022, 08:39:36 AM
Welcome aboard Davy and Mark.
Wishing ye and the new panel all the best and every success.
As for Seafóid..... stick to the Financial Times like a good herrin choker.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 28, 2022, 04:47:39 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2022/0923/1325142-full-deck-football-management-teams-for-2023-complete/

All the managers for next year.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 15, 2022, 11:22:37 PM
Structure  to the Cork football team should bring a big improvement.

From the Irish Examiner. 


Former Galway and Sligo manager Kevin Walsh has been confirmed as the new Cork football coach.

The two-time Connacht SFC winning manager was ratified as the new coach in John Cleary’s backroom team at the Cork county board meeting on Tuesday night.


The two-time All-Ireland winning Galway midfielder arrives into the Cork set-up with a decade of inter-county managerial experience split evenly between his five years with Sligo (2008-13) and his five years with his native county (2015-19). Walsh is highly regarded as a technical coach whose precision work on structure has been occasionally misinterpreted as overly-defensive.


And today Dublin football manager Dessie Farrell has confirmed to his panel that Pat Gilroy will be joining his back room team for the 2023 season
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on November 27, 2022, 01:14:07 AM
Paddy Bradley is joining the Donegal set-up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 27, 2022, 11:29:00 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 27, 2022, 01:14:07 AM
Paddy Bradley is joining the Donegal set-up.

Former Ireland rugby international and Heineken Cup winner Bernard Jackman the latest to join the Donegal set up as a performance analyst***

***This proved to be  false paper talk.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 27, 2022, 11:29:00 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 27, 2022, 01:14:07 AM
Paddy Bradley is joining the Donegal set-up.

Former Ireland rugby international and Heineken Cup winner Bernard Jackman the latest to join the Donegal set up as a performance analyst.
Donegal soon have more coaches than players
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on November 28, 2022, 09:09:13 AM
They'll  even have a bigger backroom than McStay  ::)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on November 29, 2022, 05:36:27 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 28, 2022, 08:48:58 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 27, 2022, 11:29:00 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 27, 2022, 01:14:07 AM
Paddy Bradley is joining the Donegal set-up.

Former Ireland rugby international and Heineken Cup winner Bernard Jackman the latest to join the Donegal set up as a performance analyst.
Donegal soon have more coaches than players

What's going on in Donegal? Murphy stepped down after new manager has been appointed and now I'm hearing that a lot of experienced players have yet to to commit.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 01:13:56 PM
Anthony Cunningham  the new Portarlington football senior manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 23, 2022, 02:22:30 PM
4 days as manager a new record?

www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/pat-flanagan-ballinabrackey-sarsfields-537618
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on December 24, 2022, 11:56:11 AM
Anyone come on a club being asked to pay one of their own clubmen X  000's to coach their senior team? A club near me is doing this and I couldn't believe one of their own would ask it never mind the club agree to pay it. I'm talking a mediocre enough team too. Is this now normal?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NAG1 on January 03, 2023, 02:44:06 PM
Not sure it is the norm within home clubs and their own members.

There was a very high profile one in Derry, who is still on the gravy train now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Truth hurts on January 03, 2023, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 24, 2022, 11:56:11 AM
Anyone come on a club being asked to pay one of their own clubmen X  000's to coach their senior team? A club near me is doing this and I couldn't believe one of their own would ask it never mind the club agree to pay it. I'm talking a mediocre enough team too. Is this now normal?

You should never charge your own club for time.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on January 03, 2023, 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 03, 2023, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on December 24, 2022, 11:56:11 AM
Anyone come on a club being asked to pay one of their own clubmen X  000's to coach their senior team? A club near me is doing this and I couldn't believe one of their own would ask it never mind the club agree to pay it. I'm talking a mediocre enough team too. Is this now normal?

You should never charge your own club for time.

Totally agree but was just wondering is this now a thing that's happening more frequently as I never heard of it before
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: OrchardOrange on January 14, 2023, 09:15:30 PM
What are the chances of Jim Gavin coaching another county just to show he can prove himself beyond the county with unlimited resources and euros?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: oakleaflad on March 22, 2023, 03:18:13 PM
Highland Radio reporting Paddy Carr has resigned as Donegal manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Goldengreen on March 22, 2023, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on March 22, 2023, 03:18:13 PM
Highland Radio reporting Paddy Carr has resigned as Donegal manager.
https://donegalgaa.ie/40533-2/?fbclid=IwAR2kCpe6chrA0BVIQxiX8cVQjmPSEQfXmU7TOW2j62BTzCp2EljCbdnZVzg
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 22, 2023, 03:33:27 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on March 22, 2023, 03:18:13 PM
Highland Radio reporting Paddy Carr has resigned as Donegal manager.
Most expected Donegal to be seeking for a new manager but not that soon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WhoDat on March 23, 2023, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: OrchardOrange on January 14, 2023, 09:15:30 PM
What are the chances of Jim Gavin coaching another county just to show he can prove himself beyond the county with unlimited resources and euros?

nil. he won't manage any team again imo
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on March 23, 2023, 09:05:05 PM
The new trend is players forcing the manager out. First Limerick, then Donegal.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2023, 11:07:08 PM
Galway hurlers some years ago and a few others too.
If manager hasn't the dressing room he may move on.
It's not like pro/semi pro sport where you can sell off players and bring in others
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on June 18, 2023, 10:57:18 AM
Colm Collins stepped down as Clare manager last night after 10 years in charge. A servant to.his county.  Guided Clare from division 4 in seven seasons in Division 2 until relegated this year.  Also brought Clare to two AI Quarter Finals.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on June 18, 2023, 11:03:20 AM
Players have a lot of power nowadays. A lot of egoes in squads.

Usually in squads who never light many fires unfortunately.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on June 18, 2023, 09:26:42 PM
McGeeney safe for another ten years after getting the hopes up again with the orange brigade
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2023, 09:04:52 PM
Aidan O'Rourke stepped down.

I thought himself and Paddy Bradley did a decent job under the circumstances. Could easily have walked when the players ousted Paddy Carr.

Big summer ahead for Donegal GAA. Get the underage back on the road and follow the example of other Ulster counties. Get a good senior management team in place and get everyone playing.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on June 30, 2023, 01:38:44 PM
Donegal have moved quickly to advertise the senior manager job. Applications due by July 21.

Hopefully they get someone in place for the club championship in August and it doesn't turn into another shitshow.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on June 30, 2023, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 30, 2023, 01:38:44 PM
Donegal have moved quickly to advertise the senior manager job. Applications due by July 21.

Hopefully they get someone in place for the club championship in August and it doesn't turn into another shitshow.

Acting quickly now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 04, 2023, 10:46:44 AM
Not surprisingly Billy Sheehan gone from Laois.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AustinPowers on July 04, 2023, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2023, 10:46:44 AM
Not surprisingly Billy Sheehan gone from Laois.

I'd say Billy might  head up north  for  his next job
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on July 04, 2023, 06:13:15 PM
North Pole.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 06, 2023, 06:27:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/05/michael-murphy-rules-himself-out-of-the-donegal-managerial-race/Murphy has moved to distance himself from taking on the role at this stage.

"Not yet, not yet. Listen, timing, I suppose last year the reason I moved away from playing was because of the whole energy thing of what's required on an everyday basis, that's the whole thing I would have struggled to give," he said.

Learn more

"I knew myself it was something I would struggle to give, and moving into management, listen, it's a big thing.

"In order to do it right and the way it needs to be done, it's massive hours within every single day. Plus added into the fact I need to go and learn the trade, I need to go and learn about it and maybe go and figure out coaching and figure out management.

"I've been taking the local minors for the last couple of years and at that level I give it my all for a couple of days a week, but that's what it is - a couple of days of the week. So I'm not foolish enough to kind of know that I could throw myself into something."

And Murphy does not see himself linking up as a selector on any Donegal managerial dream-team ticket for 2024 either.

"Definitely not for me anyway at the moment, no," he added.

"If anything, I had already committed, I suppose, to helping out along with Karl (Lacey) in the academy last year with the underage teams.

"If that kind of project gets back up and going again I think I would probably try and help out in some capacity again with Donegal at underage level, and figure that thing out in an environment that is maybe less pressurised and less time-consuming and where you can maybe afford to make mistakes and learn from them."



Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: johnnycool on July 06, 2023, 09:55:02 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 04, 2023, 03:35:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 04, 2023, 10:46:44 AM
Not surprisingly Billy Sheehan gone from Laois.

I'd say Billy might  head up north  for  his next job

Linfield?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on July 06, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.

Its Derry, there is every possibility that Ciaran Meenagh could take them to the final and the county board could decide to change.

If they lose to kerry i fully expect  him to be replaced.
Which i totally disagree with.


Derry have a long history of not standing by good managers.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on July 06, 2023, 10:25:41 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 06, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.

Its Derry, there is every possibility that Ciaran Meenagh could take them to the final and the county board could decide to change.

If they lose to kerry i fully expect  him to be replaced.
Which i totally disagree with.


Derry have a long history of not standing by good managers.

Calm the jets , only Ciaran can answer the question as to whether he wants the job or not after this year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on July 06, 2023, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 06, 2023, 10:25:41 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 06, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.

Its Derry, there is every possibility that Ciaran Meenagh could take them to the final and the county board could decide to change.

If they lose to kerry i fully expect  him to be replaced.
Which i totally disagree with.


Derry have a long history of not standing by good managers.

Calm the jets , only Ciaran can answer the question as to whether he wants the job or not after this year.


That is not at all the scenario or potential I was referring too.
But I am old enough to remember previous betrayals of managers.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on July 06, 2023, 02:43:34 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 06, 2023, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 06, 2023, 10:25:41 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 06, 2023, 10:16:47 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.

Its Derry, there is every possibility that Ciaran Meenagh could take them to the final and the county board could decide to change.

If they lose to kerry i fully expect  him to be replaced.
Which i totally disagree with.


Derry have a long history of not standing by good managers.

Calm the jets , only Ciaran can answer the question as to whether he wants the job or not after this year.


That is not at all the scenario or potential I was referring too.
But I am old enough to remember previous betrayals of managers.

Ciaran might not want the Derry job next year and there might be an opening in a certain neighbouring county for a new manager next year. Credit where credit is due, Derry's season could have imploded from the Ulster final onwards but he has done a great job steadying the ship. Our lads appeared to need the fire and brimstone approach from the previous man in charge and Ciaran has a different approach to that. This upcoming semi-final is as big a game as we have had to really test ourselves, players and management, against the best.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 06:08:48 PM
I'd say Derry players, the cohort of senior players, like Mc Kaigue, Glass, and Rogers etc. are very driven and know what they want at this stage.

Gallagher set them on the right track.

Derry have progressed well this past 5 yrs especially with the new regime at Owenbeg and very good structures in place.

The south Derry clubs have been supplying the players at underage level and a bit of organisation goes a long way.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Schkite on July 06, 2023, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.

You really think Vinny Corey's position isn't secure after his first year over Monaghan?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 08:01:10 PM
Quote from: Schkite on July 06, 2023, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2023, 10:03:56 AM
Vacancies  - Donegal., Laois,  Tipperary,  Clare.
Possible vacancies soon -Tyrone, Armagh,  Offaly, Galway, Leitrim, Kildare.

No vacancy this year (unless voluntary) - Ros, Kerry, Derry, Down, Meath, Dublin, Cork, Louth.

Don't know about the rest except Mayowestros will be throwing some of the management staff under the bus.

You really think Vinny Corey's position isn't secure after his first year over Monaghan?
Just forgot to include them on the safe list :-[
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on July 06, 2023, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2023, 06:27:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/05/michael-murphy-rules-himself-out-of-the-donegal-managerial-race/Murphy has moved to distance himself from taking on the role at this stage.

"Not yet, not yet. Listen, timing, I suppose last year the reason I moved away from playing was because of the whole energy thing of what's required on an everyday basis, that's the whole thing I would have struggled to give," he said.

Learn more

"I knew myself it was something I would struggle to give, and moving into management, listen, it's a big thing.

"In order to do it right and the way it needs to be done, it's massive hours within every single day. Plus added into the fact I need to go and learn the trade, I need to go and learn about it and maybe go and figure out coaching and figure out management.

"I've been taking the local minors for the last couple of years and at that level I give it my all for a couple of days a week, but that's what it is - a couple of days of the week. So I'm not foolish enough to kind of know that I could throw myself into something."

And Murphy does not see himself linking up as a selector on any Donegal managerial dream-team ticket for 2024 either.

"Definitely not for me anyway at the moment, no," he added.

"If anything, I had already committed, I suppose, to helping out along with Karl (Lacey) in the academy last year with the underage teams.

"If that kind of project gets back up and going again I think I would probably try and help out in some capacity again with Donegal at underage level, and figure that thing out in an environment that is maybe less pressurised and less time-consuming and where you can maybe afford to make mistakes and learn from them."

Murphy is head of sport at the ATU (formerly LYIT) in Letterkenny. Getting married too. And I think he's still joint owner of the sports shop with Neil Gallagher. So probably cannot spare the time and effort needed.

It would be great for the county though if they get the academy back up and running under Lacey and he brings the likes of Murphy back in. Not holding my breath though.

I saw another interview in which he was quoted being pretty brutally honest about the relative lack of attraction of the senior football job in Donegal. He compared it to Mayo, who had their opening at the same time as Donegal last year, being able to entice four high profile management teams, not just managers, to apply.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on July 06, 2023, 09:32:34 PM
Murphy has plenty of perks Gaago etc plus other Marty Morrissey extras.Management not on his agenda.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 11:16:46 PM
Quote from: skeog on July 06, 2023, 09:32:34 PM
Murphy has plenty of perks Gaago etc plus other Marty Morrissey extras.Management not on his agenda.

Why would he go into management?

He has a cushy number and a bit of tv work.  Can't lose.

Go into management and he'll lose his legacy.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 06, 2023, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2023, 06:27:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/05/michael-murphy-rules-himself-out-of-the-donegal-managerial-race/Murphy has moved to distance himself from taking on the role at this stage.

"Not yet, not yet. Listen, timing, I suppose last year the reason I moved away from playing was because of the whole energy thing of what's required on an everyday basis, that's the whole thing I would have struggled to give," he said.

Learn more

"I knew myself it was something I would struggle to give, and moving into management, listen, it's a big thing.

"In order to do it right and the way it needs to be done, it's massive hours within every single day. Plus added into the fact I need to go and learn the trade, I need to go and learn about it and maybe go and figure out coaching and figure out management.

"I've been taking the local minors for the last couple of years and at that level I give it my all for a couple of days a week, but that's what it is - a couple of days of the week. So I'm not foolish enough to kind of know that I could throw myself into something."

And Murphy does not see himself linking up as a selector on any Donegal managerial dream-team ticket for 2024 either.

"Definitely not for me anyway at the moment, no," he added.

"If anything, I had already committed, I suppose, to helping out along with Karl (Lacey) in the academy last year with the underage teams.

"If that kind of project gets back up and going again I think I would probably try and help out in some capacity again with Donegal at underage level, and figure that thing out in an environment that is maybe less pressurised and less time-consuming and where you can maybe afford to make mistakes and learn from them."

Murphy is head of sport at the ATU (formerly LYIT) in Letterkenny. Getting married too. And I think he's still joint owner of the sports shop with Neil Gallagher. So probably cannot spare the time and effort needed.

It would be great for the county though if they get the academy back up and running under Lacey and he brings the likes of Murphy back in. Not holding my breath though.

I saw another interview in which he was quoted being pretty brutally honest about the relative lack of attraction of the senior football job in Donegal. He compared it to Mayo, who had their opening at the same time as Donegal last year, being able to entice four high profile management teams, not just managers, to apply.

What is the story with the academy nowadays anyway?

Has that been sorted?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on July 07, 2023, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 06, 2023, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2023, 06:27:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/05/michael-murphy-rules-himself-out-of-the-donegal-managerial-race/Murphy has moved to distance himself from taking on the role at this stage.

"Not yet, not yet. Listen, timing, I suppose last year the reason I moved away from playing was because of the whole energy thing of what's required on an everyday basis, that's the whole thing I would have struggled to give," he said.

Learn more

"I knew myself it was something I would struggle to give, and moving into management, listen, it's a big thing.

"In order to do it right and the way it needs to be done, it's massive hours within every single day. Plus added into the fact I need to go and learn the trade, I need to go and learn about it and maybe go and figure out coaching and figure out management.

"I've been taking the local minors for the last couple of years and at that level I give it my all for a couple of days a week, but that's what it is - a couple of days of the week. So I'm not foolish enough to kind of know that I could throw myself into something."

And Murphy does not see himself linking up as a selector on any Donegal managerial dream-team ticket for 2024 either.

"Definitely not for me anyway at the moment, no," he added.

"If anything, I had already committed, I suppose, to helping out along with Karl (Lacey) in the academy last year with the underage teams.

"If that kind of project gets back up and going again I think I would probably try and help out in some capacity again with Donegal at underage level, and figure that thing out in an environment that is maybe less pressurised and less time-consuming and where you can maybe afford to make mistakes and learn from them."

Murphy is head of sport at the ATU (formerly LYIT) in Letterkenny. Getting married too. And I think he's still joint owner of the sports shop with Neil Gallagher. So probably cannot spare the time and effort needed.

It would be great for the county though if they get the academy back up and running under Lacey and he brings the likes of Murphy back in. Not holding my breath though.

I saw another interview in which he was quoted being pretty brutally honest about the relative lack of attraction of the senior football job in Donegal. He compared it to Mayo, who had their opening at the same time as Donegal last year, being able to entice four high profile management teams, not just managers, to apply.

What is the story with the academy nowadays anyway?

Has that been sorted?

Not sorted by any means. U 16s & u15s have some coaches, to keep them ticking over. U14s never got up & running at all.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on July 07, 2023, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: Rudi on July 07, 2023, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 06, 2023, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2023, 06:27:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/05/michael-murphy-rules-himself-out-of-the-donegal-managerial-race/Murphy has moved to distance himself from taking on the role at this stage.

"Not yet, not yet. Listen, timing, I suppose last year the reason I moved away from playing was because of the whole energy thing of what's required on an everyday basis, that's the whole thing I would have struggled to give," he said.

Learn more

"I knew myself it was something I would struggle to give, and moving into management, listen, it's a big thing.

"In order to do it right and the way it needs to be done, it's massive hours within every single day. Plus added into the fact I need to go and learn the trade, I need to go and learn about it and maybe go and figure out coaching and figure out management.

"I've been taking the local minors for the last couple of years and at that level I give it my all for a couple of days a week, but that's what it is - a couple of days of the week. So I'm not foolish enough to kind of know that I could throw myself into something."

And Murphy does not see himself linking up as a selector on any Donegal managerial dream-team ticket for 2024 either.

"Definitely not for me anyway at the moment, no," he added.

"If anything, I had already committed, I suppose, to helping out along with Karl (Lacey) in the academy last year with the underage teams.

"If that kind of project gets back up and going again I think I would probably try and help out in some capacity again with Donegal at underage level, and figure that thing out in an environment that is maybe less pressurised and less time-consuming and where you can maybe afford to make mistakes and learn from them."

Murphy is head of sport at the ATU (formerly LYIT) in Letterkenny. Getting married too. And I think he's still joint owner of the sports shop with Neil Gallagher. So probably cannot spare the time and effort needed.

It would be great for the county though if they get the academy back up and running under Lacey and he brings the likes of Murphy back in. Not holding my breath though.

I saw another interview in which he was quoted being pretty brutally honest about the relative lack of attraction of the senior football job in Donegal. He compared it to Mayo, who had their opening at the same time as Donegal last year, being able to entice four high profile management teams, not just managers, to apply.

What is the story with the academy nowadays anyway?

Has that been sorted?

Not sorted by any means. U 16s & u15s have some coaches, to keep them ticking over. U14s never got up & running at all.

Is there any compromise in sight Rudi?  Or will this just drag on over the winter and there'll be a 1/2 academy in 2024 do you reckon?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on July 07, 2023, 09:16:57 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 07, 2023, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: Rudi on July 07, 2023, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 06, 2023, 11:17:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 06, 2023, 08:15:07 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 06, 2023, 06:27:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/07/05/michael-murphy-rules-himself-out-of-the-donegal-managerial-race/Murphy has moved to distance himself from taking on the role at this stage.

"Not yet, not yet. Listen, timing, I suppose last year the reason I moved away from playing was because of the whole energy thing of what's required on an everyday basis, that's the whole thing I would have struggled to give," he said.

Learn more

"I knew myself it was something I would struggle to give, and moving into management, listen, it's a big thing.

"In order to do it right and the way it needs to be done, it's massive hours within every single day. Plus added into the fact I need to go and learn the trade, I need to go and learn about it and maybe go and figure out coaching and figure out management.

"I've been taking the local minors for the last couple of years and at that level I give it my all for a couple of days a week, but that's what it is - a couple of days of the week. So I'm not foolish enough to kind of know that I could throw myself into something."

And Murphy does not see himself linking up as a selector on any Donegal managerial dream-team ticket for 2024 either.

"Definitely not for me anyway at the moment, no," he added.

"If anything, I had already committed, I suppose, to helping out along with Karl (Lacey) in the academy last year with the underage teams.

"If that kind of project gets back up and going again I think I would probably try and help out in some capacity again with Donegal at underage level, and figure that thing out in an environment that is maybe less pressurised and less time-consuming and where you can maybe afford to make mistakes and learn from them."

Murphy is head of sport at the ATU (formerly LYIT) in Letterkenny. Getting married too. And I think he's still joint owner of the sports shop with Neil Gallagher. So probably cannot spare the time and effort needed.

It would be great for the county though if they get the academy back up and running under Lacey and he brings the likes of Murphy back in. Not holding my breath though.

I saw another interview in which he was quoted being pretty brutally honest about the relative lack of attraction of the senior football job in Donegal. He compared it to Mayo, who had their opening at the same time as Donegal last year, being able to entice four high profile management teams, not just managers, to apply.

What is the story with the academy nowadays anyway?

Has that been sorted?

Not sorted by any means. U 16s & u15s have some coaches, to keep them ticking over. U14s never got up & running at all.

Is there any compromise in sight Rudi?  Or will this just drag on over the winter and there'll be a 1/2 academy in 2024 do you reckon?

County board have held some talks with former academy coaches, Croke Park have got involved - no white smoke yet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2023, 09:27:32 PM
Cian O'Neill??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.

Correct time to do so, and likely replacement?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.

Correct time to do so, and likely replacement?
Someone who can win the Tailteann
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on July 11, 2023, 08:52:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.

Correct time to do so, and likely replacement?
Someone who can win the Tailteann

Joyce?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.

Correct time to do so, and likely replacement?
Someone who can win the Tailteann

Unlikely they will be in the Tailteann unless you are looking for the new manager to purposely get them relegated from Div2 so they can enter it?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 11:15:04 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.

Correct time to do so, and likely replacement?
Someone who can win the Tailteann

Unlikely they will be in the Tailteann unless you are looking for the new manager to purposely get them relegated from Div2 so they can enter it?
The season after next
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 11:15:04 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 11, 2023, 09:22:57 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 11, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 10, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 10, 2023, 08:54:31 PM
Mickey Graham stands down as Cavan manager.

Correct time to do so, and likely replacement?
Someone who can win the Tailteann

Unlikely they will be in the Tailteann unless you are looking for the new manager to purposely get them relegated from Div2 so they can enter it?
The season after next

It can be done next season by coming in the bottom 2. Are you not familiar with the rules, you should be if you want to act the smart arse.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 14, 2023, 05:29:52 PM
Interim Limerick football manager Mark Fitzgerald steps down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 19, 2023, 10:39:07 AM
Good man Larry

https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/328556
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 26, 2023, 08:19:10 PM
Liam McHale gone for the Mayo senior management after just one year, a surprise give how close he's to McStay and the two nearly always work together.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on July 26, 2023, 08:53:00 PM
Someone had to be thrown under the Bus.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AustinPowers on July 26, 2023, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 26, 2023, 08:53:00 PM
Someone had to be thrown under the Bus.

It's like 1996  all over again

Was  Colm Coyle   let go from the Meath backroom  at the same time?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on July 26, 2023, 11:06:38 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 26, 2023, 08:19:10 PM
Liam McHale gone for the Mayo senior management after just one year, a surprise give how close he's to McStay and the two nearly always work together.

A few Counties looking for a manager whether it's related to that. He was involved with Clare and Cavan in the past,
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 5times5times on August 17, 2023, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?

Rumour mill north of the border is that he's going to link up with Geezer + Armagh, but McKeever stepping back and Donaghy lessening his time on the pitch with them
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Taylor on August 17, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2

Was Gilligan not rumoured to be in with Armagh now?

McGuinness is bound to know he will be on a hiding to nothing taking that Donegal team over now
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on August 17, 2023, 03:23:00 PM
Michael Murphy is rumoured to be returning also.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: restorepride on August 17, 2023, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 17, 2023, 03:23:00 PM
Michael Murphy is rumoured to be returning also.
Michael is quoted as saying he will not be coming out of retirement.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 17, 2023, 04:08:38 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 17, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2

Was Gilligan not rumoured to be in with Armagh now?

McGuinness is bound to know he will be on a hiding to nothing taking that Donegal team over now

100,000 reasons he will not be on a hiding to nothing. Murphy won't be back.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: naka on August 17, 2023, 04:21:51 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 17, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2

Was Gilligan not rumoured to be in with Armagh now?

McGuinness is bound to know he will be on a hiding to nothing taking that Donegal team over now
Yip but this was told to me before gilligan was mentioned with Armagh
Tbf thr official seemed confident enough.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on August 17, 2023, 04:29:47 PM
Donegal been digging out the gold the past few weeks for the deal mc Guinness will be looking and all the support he'll demand. He's an underage development coach so his chances of making it in soccer are zero at this stage. Maybe Rory G will come back to Derry and we could get a blockbuster down the line
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2023, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 17, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2

Was Gilligan not rumoured to be in with Armagh now?

McGuinness is bound to know he will be on a hiding to nothing taking that Donegal team over now

Donegal are in a simliar place to where they were when he took on the Donegal gig in his first spell. Division 2, few if any tipping them to win Ulster. Jim will have fit and very intense and have some good underage players that are waiting to establish themselves at senior level. If Murphy comes back it will likely to be part of his management team
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on August 17, 2023, 07:58:41 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 17, 2023, 04:08:38 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 17, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2

Was Gilligan not rumoured to be in with Armagh now?

McGuinness is bound to know he will be on a hiding to nothing taking that Donegal team over now

100,000 reasons he will not be on a hiding to nothing. Murphy won't be back.

What's the word on the ground Rudi?

Likely or not?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 17, 2023, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 07:58:41 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 17, 2023, 04:08:38 PM
Quote from: Taylor on August 17, 2023, 02:53:37 PM
Quote from: naka on August 17, 2023, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 17, 2023, 12:45:50 PM
Rumours today that McGuinness is actually a realistic prospect to return to the Donegal job.

I'll believe it when I see it.

The expectations would be sky high, but I seriously doubt there is an AI challenge in that Donegal squad. There's no elite players like Murphy, Lacey and Neil McGee that McGuinness was able to harness the first time. Would he be content with contesting Ulster finals and, maybe on an extremely good year, an AI semi?

And would he not be publicly acknowledging that his dream of breaking into top level soccer coaching is over?
Tbf talking to a senior Donegal official at the football final and he was confident that Mc Guiness would be back with Gilligan as his no2

Was Gilligan not rumoured to be in with Armagh now?

McGuinness is bound to know he will be on a hiding to nothing taking that Donegal team over now

100,000 reasons he will not be on a hiding to nothing. Murphy won't be back.

What's the word on the ground Rudi?

Likely or not?

Pretty much a done deal, which will probably have a positive snowball effect for Donegal football, regarding getting Academy going again.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on August 17, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
Would love to see Jim back at donegal as it will expose him for what he is. A one trick pony who took a talented bunch of players and pushed them to the absolute extreme and managed to squeeze out an AI.

He probably shorted a few players career's with his extreme training but rode off into the sunset a hero after only a few years there. Now as a failed soccer manager he might be back.

Best case is he wins an ulster. Could be proven wrong but time will tell.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 17, 2023, 10:17:24 PM
Declan Kelly, manager of the 2021 U20 All Ireland winning team gets the Offaly job.

https://twitter.com/Offaly_GAA/status/1692212729669464192?s=20
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shawshank on August 19, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 17, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
Would love to see Jim back at donegal as it will expose him for what he is. A one trick pony who took a talented bunch of players and pushed them to the absolute extreme and managed to squeeze out an AI.

He probably shorted a few players career's with his extreme training but rode off into the sunset a hero after only a few years there. Now as a failed soccer manager he might be back.

Best case is he wins an ulster. Could be proven wrong but time will tell.

The bitterness of this post 😂😂😂😂
He put Tyrone in his box for sure.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on August 19, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 19, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 17, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
Would love to see Jim back at donegal as it will expose him for what he is. A one trick pony who took a talented bunch of players and pushed them to the absolute extreme and managed to squeeze out an AI.

He probably shorted a few players career's with his extreme training but rode off into the sunset a hero after only a few years there. Now as a failed soccer manager he might be back.

Best case is he wins an ulster. Could be proven wrong but time will tell.

The bitterness of this post 😂😂😂😂
He put Tyrone in his box for sure.

No bitterness at all. Donegal continued to beat Tyrone for many of years after he left. Tell me this, do you disagree with what I said. Would you consider Jim a top manager ?

His record is

1st year. Beat by dublin after donegal scored 6 points in the entire game.

2nd year. Won the ai against mayo. Pretty much standard lol.

3rd year. Lost quater final by 16 points against mayo.

4th year. Lost final against kerry

Then left for a soccer career with 1 win in about 15 matches in USA.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 07:39:04 PM
2012 beat a very good Kerry and cork in the run up to beating Mayo in the final. The run up had some huge wins.

2011 he played a hugely defensive system because the players weren't ready to play the counter attacking game he wanted.

Tbh I thought the 2014 final was his biggest failing. Kerry mirrored Donegal's tactics and I don't think he knew what to do. Donegal really left that one behind.

(Also that 2014 beating for Dublin was imo the making of that Dublin team but probably can't blame him for that...).
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 19, 2023, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 19, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 19, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 17, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
Would love to see Jim back at donegal as it will expose him for what he is. A one trick pony who took a talented bunch of players and pushed them to the absolute extreme and managed to squeeze out an AI.

He probably shorted a few players career's with his extreme training but rode off into the sunset a hero after only a few years there. Now as a failed soccer manager he might be back.

Best case is he wins an ulster. Could be proven wrong but time will tell.

The bitterness of this post 😂😂😂😂
He put Tyrone in his box for sure.

No bitterness at all. Donegal continued to beat Tyrone for many of years after he left. Tell me this, do you disagree with what I said. Would you consider Jim a top manager ?

His record is

1st year. Beat by dublin after donegal scored 6 points in the entire game.

2nd year. Won the ai against mayo. Pretty much standard lol.

3rd year. Lost quater final by 16 points against mayo.

4th year. Lost final against kerry

Then left for a soccer career with 1 win in about 15 matches in USA.

Something about how you have worded it makes it read bitter tbf

But I think your point is valid, it'll be interesting to see how good he actually is with this crop of players and the counry teams playing the way they are. 

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on August 19, 2023, 08:32:07 PM
By all accounts Mc Guinness was working weekly with Down  this year. Didn't see down play much but they didn't get out of div 3 or shake up the championship in May way. Would have loved to see him get a soccer job in Ireland to see how he would have got on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2023, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on August 19, 2023, 08:32:07 PM
By all accounts Mc Guinness was working weekly with Down  this year. Didn't see down play much but they didn't get out of div 3 or shake up the championship in May way. Would have loved to see him get a soccer job in Ireland to see how he would have got on.
First I've heard of it. Be interesting to see how McGuinness does on his return, ten years a long time out of inter county management and unlike 2014 pretty much every team nowadays has a focus on possession football with number back in defence plus counter attacking with pace for the majority of their scores.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on August 19, 2023, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on August 19, 2023, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 19, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
Quote from: shawshank on August 19, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 17, 2023, 09:27:45 PM
Would love to see Jim back at donegal as it will expose him for what he is. A one trick pony who took a talented bunch of players and pushed them to the absolute extreme and managed to squeeze out an AI.

He probably shorted a few players career's with his extreme training but rode off into the sunset a hero after only a few years there. Now as a failed soccer manager he might be back.

Best case is he wins an ulster. Could be proven wrong but time will tell.

The bitterness of this post 😂😂😂😂
He put Tyrone in his box for sure.

No bitterness at all. Donegal continued to beat Tyrone for many of years after he left. Tell me this, do you disagree with what I said. Would you consider Jim a top manager ?

His record is

1st year. Beat by dublin after donegal scored 6 points in the entire game.

2nd year. Won the ai against mayo. Pretty much standard lol.

3rd year. Lost quater final by 16 points against mayo.

4th year. Lost final against kerry

Then left for a soccer career with 1 win in about 15 matches in USA.

Something about how you have worded it makes it read bitter tbf

But I think your point is valid, it'll be interesting to see how good he actually is with this crop of players and the counry teams playing the way they are.
.

Reading it again myself it does sound bitter but it's really not meant to be. I just honestly think he done a smash and grab with a very talented bunch but pushed them and the tactics of gaelic to the extreme.

I never really bought into the myth that he was some sort of wonder manager. Suppose time will tell but wouldn't be betting on it. Even as a commentator he wasn't great. Said Tyrone would be no were near AI in 2021 and sure look what happened
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on August 19, 2023, 11:14:37 PM
They did fluke it tho so he was thinking in line with 95% of the country.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on August 20, 2023, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 07:39:04 PM
2012 beat a very good Kerry and cork in the run up to beating Mayo in the final. The run up had some huge wins.

2011 he played a hugely defensive system because the players weren't ready to play the counter attacking game he wanted.

Tbh I thought the 2014 final was his biggest failing. Kerry mirrored Donegal's tactics and I don't think he knew what to do. Donegal really left that one behind.

(Also that 2014 beating for Dublin was imo the making of that Dublin team but probably can't blame him for that...).

I would have said 2011 they left it behind them. Only scoring 6 points is an unreal achievement in a negative sense for a county team.

Looking forward to see how he does against derry and maybe armagh in ulster. Tyrone have slipped massively in recent years so I wouldn't say they are big contenders.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 20, 2023, 12:29:04 AM
I think a bit of perspective is needed as before Jim became Donegal senior manager Donegal in their history only won one  senior All Ireland title and that was their only final appearance.  It was a talented bunch he took over but it was Donegal team result wise that hadn't them in the conversation for challenging never mind winning the All Ireland.   He was also Donegal's U21 manager in 2010 and was a missed penalty in added time away for beating Jim Gavin's Dublin in the AI final.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 20, 2023, 01:34:28 AM
Jim's first go at county management made sure he was up close & personal to Ulster's big guns at that time.

Using that logic, staying on top of Derry will ensure more Ulster titles for the Donegal men.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 20, 2023, 07:55:55 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 20, 2023, 01:34:28 AM
Jim's first go at county management made sure he was up close & personal to Ulster's big guns at that time.

Using that logic, staying on top of Derry will ensure more Ulster titles for the Donegal men.

I think the key ingredient he brought to Donegal was disclipline.

They were a talented group but a bit wild.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on August 20, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 20, 2023, 01:34:28 AM
Jim's first go at county management made sure he was up close & personal to Ulster's big guns at that time.

Using that logic, staying on top of Derry will ensure more Ulster titles for the Donegal men.
Yes using that logic ulster big guns Armagh and Derry are Fcuked.   See ye in another 25 years lads...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 20, 2023, 09:55:09 AM
It's a long way to January
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AustinPowers on August 20, 2023, 11:03:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 19, 2023, 07:39:04 PM
2012 beat a very good Kerry and cork in the run up to beating Mayo in the final. The run up had some huge wins.

2011 he played a hugely defensive system because the players weren't ready to play the counter attacking game he wanted.

Tbh I thought the 2014 final was his biggest failing. Kerry mirrored Donegal's tactics and I don't think he knew what to do. Donegal really left that one behind.

(Also that 2014 beating for Dublin was imo the making of that Dublin team but probably can't blame him for that...).

It's funny because  Fitzmaurice seemed to  come   away from that game  as a genius, whereas Jim was clueless .  When in reality it was just a brutal game , and one  bad kick out  decided the game.  And Donegal  hit the post in the last  minute too , to level it.

Had it gone  the other way , Jim  would be lauded as the greatest  manager ever 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 20, 2023, 12:32:36 PM
This Donegal team hasn't got the players, Murphy carried them for years. McGuinness couldn't cut it in soccer, and his return to Donegal will be the same.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on August 20, 2023, 12:37:06 PM
Jimmy took  mickey hartes system from 2003 which involved discipline, hard working and tackling in pacts to an extreme level. He isn't the tactical genius some people made him out to be
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2023, 02:19:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 20, 2023, 12:32:36 PM
This Donegal team hasn't got the players, Murphy carried them for years. McGuinness couldn't cut it in soccer, and his return to Donegal will be the same.

He'll get a lot of players back who didn't commit this year, Ryan McHugh being obvious one. Still good talent in the Donegal team. Gallen , Michael Langan, Ciaran Thompson
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 20, 2023, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 20, 2023, 12:32:36 PM
This Donegal team hasn't got the players, Murphy carried them for years. McGuinness couldn't cut it in soccer, and his return to Donegal will be the same.
otoh Derry and Armagh will struggle to maintain Ulster hegemony over the next 3/5 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on August 20, 2023, 02:43:47 PM
Donegal won't be far away with Mcguinness back at the helm, they've plenty of talent, had great underage structures and a lot of good underage sides until the recent implosion, so a bit of discipline & organisation will work wonders, that's all that happened in Derry under Gallagher- they sorted a mess, got people pulling in the same direction & organised talent.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2023, 05:55:17 PM
Limerick are set to appoint Jimmy Lee as their new football manager. He guided Newcastle West to two county titles, as well as an appearance in last year's Munster SFC final where they were beaten by a point by Kerry side Kerins O'Rahilly's.

He was previously in the management set up with Limerick when Billy Lee was in charge
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 21, 2023, 08:20:06 PM
As expected Jim back, with bro in law Colm Anthony, Neil McGee & Luke Barret.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rudi on August 21, 2023, 08:22:15 PM
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/1277879/he-s-back-mcguinness-is-donegal-manager-again-with-backroom-team-announced.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2023, 08:56:15 PM
Quote from: Rudi on August 21, 2023, 08:20:06 PM
As expected Jim back, with bro in law Colm Anthony, Neil McGee & Luke Barret.

Division Two has become even more interesting now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on August 21, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
A few big names on the Mayo U20 management. Leader Gardiner manager with James Horan, Keith Higgins, Ger Cafferkey in the backroom.
Ciaran McDonald coach of the Mayo minors n
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 21, 2023, 09:38:04 PM
What was the last 9 years about for Jimmy? Travelled, served numerous apprenticeships and educated himself yet couldn't make the breakthrough. That must be his soccer career finished now and I doubt if he'll ever have the same impact on Donegal second time around. He stole a march and introduced zonal, defensive football and revolutionised the sport into the bargain first time around. He'd probably argue he did what he had to do in order to be successful but I'd argue that the sport has never really recovered as a spectacle since.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 21, 2023, 09:40:49 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 21, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
A few big names on the Mayo U20 management. Leader Gardiner manager with James Horan, Keith Higgins, Ger Cafferkey in the backroom.
Ciaran McDonald coach of the Mayo minors n

Name that stands out. Interesting that he'd returned to inter county management so soon but not as manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: marty34 on August 21, 2023, 09:54:30 PM
Good to see Mc Guinness back. Looking forward to see what he'll do with Donegal.

If you're a DG player, it's got to be a boost.

Good for GAA fans.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: AustinPowers on August 21, 2023, 10:32:54 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 21, 2023, 09:38:04 PM
What was the last 9 years about for Jimmy? Travelled, served numerous apprenticeships and educated himself yet couldn't make the breakthrough. That must be his soccer career finished now and I doubt if he'll ever have the same impact on Donegal second time around. He stole a march and introduced zonal, defensive football and revolutionised the sport into the bargain first time around. He'd probably argue he did what he had to do in order to be successful but I'd argue that the sport has never really recovered as a spectacle since.

Bringing players back  behind the ball was nothing  new.  Plus , Donegal were more battacking in 2012.

Let's face it ,  Donegal won the All Ireland , and were a kick of a ball from winning another.  Did  Donegal fans care? I wouldn't  imagine so. There's  probably 29 or 30 counties in Ireland  crying out for  a bit of  success , and would have gladly  taken the success  that McGuinness brought  to Donegal , regardless of  tactics
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 21, 2023, 10:50:40 PM
There could be another All Ireland going for Donegal over the next while with   the Dubs fading and Kerry beatable. You have to win at the right time. That's the secret of Zen football.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2023, 10:58:21 PM
If people think that Donegal team that beat Mayo in final and Dublin was defensive well holy god.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
I am glad to see Jim back with Donegal.....they will be as good as they can be!
I would imagine he will join the £100k a year bracket that would currently include Harte, McGeeney, Tally.
Over £50k would be McEntee Antrim and McEntee Sligo, McConville, Devlin at Louth etc.......
Though clubs are paying massive amounts now too.
Between county and club, football and hurling I would imagine the brown bag economy is around the 200 million a year mark.......that's probably more money than swirling around all of the professional sports in Ireland put together!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tbrick18 on August 23, 2023, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
I am glad to see Jim back with Donegal.....they will be as good as they can be!
I would imagine he will join the £100k a year bracket that would currently include Harte, McGeeney, Tally.
Over £50k would be McEntee Antrim and McEntee Sligo, McConville, Devlin at Louth etc.......
Though clubs are paying massive amounts now too.
Between county and club, football and hurling I would imagine the brown bag economy is around the 200 million a year mark.......that's probably more money than swirling around all of the professional sports in Ireland put together!

Is there seriously that kind of money going around for county managers?
I'm shocked....I'd always thought when I heard these figures of 50-60K that they were exaggerated and that the amount was shared between the entire management team.
But 100K for a manager! Good god almighty. I must start going to these coaching courses I keep avoiding  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Jim Bob on August 23, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
I am glad to see Jim back with Donegal.....they will be as good as they can be!
I would imagine he will join the £100k a year bracket that would currently include Harte, McGeeney, Tally.
Over £50k would be McEntee Antrim and McEntee Sligo, McConville, Devlin at Louth etc.......
Though clubs are paying massive amounts now too.
Between county and club, football and hurling I would imagine the brown bag economy is around the 200 million a year mark.......that's probably more money than swirling around all of the professional sports in Ireland put together!


Mmmmm...... Logan & Dooher ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 02:00:28 PM
Well Jim would have to give up an awful lot to be Donegal manager and its not a very secure job.......the backroom boys would be getting a bit as well......maybe £25k each
Same everywhere though.......but sure they deserve it for the amount of time involved
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: screenexile on August 23, 2023, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 23, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
I am glad to see Jim back with Donegal.....they will be as good as they can be!
I would imagine he will join the £100k a year bracket that would currently include Harte, McGeeney, Tally.
Over £50k would be McEntee Antrim and McEntee Sligo, McConville, Devlin at Louth etc.......
Though clubs are paying massive amounts now too.
Between county and club, football and hurling I would imagine the brown bag economy is around the 200 million a year mark.......that's probably more money than swirling around all of the professional sports in Ireland put together!

Mmmmm...... Logan & Dooher ?

The 2 boys have fairly successful careers outside the GAA I wouldn't imagine they are getting that kind of money for taking Tyrone.

Is Tally getting £100k to go to Kerry as defensive coach? I wouldn't have thought so. I'd have thought more the £50k bracket for that one.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: TyroneOnlooker on August 23, 2023, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 23, 2023, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 23, 2023, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
I am glad to see Jim back with Donegal.....they will be as good as they can be!
I would imagine he will join the £100k a year bracket that would currently include Harte, McGeeney, Tally.
Over £50k would be McEntee Antrim and McEntee Sligo, McConville, Devlin at Louth etc.......
Though clubs are paying massive amounts now too.
Between county and club, football and hurling I would imagine the brown bag economy is around the 200 million a year mark.......that's probably more money than swirling around all of the professional sports in Ireland put together!



The 2 boys have fairly successful careers outside the GAA I wouldn't imagine they are getting that kind of money for taking Tyrone.

Is Tally getting £100k to go to Kerry as defensive coach? I wouldn't have thought so. I'd have thought more the £50k bracket for that one.

Mmmmm...... Logan & Dooher ?

Think these numbers are exagerated. These things are all rumours and speculation to those outside the inner circles of county boards but had heard from well connected people in Armagh that McGeeney was £50K+ which is a decent salary all right but when you consider the hours involved and try and compare it to the corporate world, he'd be on far more if he was managing a team of individuals of that size and operating at the top end of a particular sector. I'm sure Harte and Devlin at Louth are on a healthy amount too, given they are full time at management/coaching gig as far as i know, i appreciate Mickey would be beyond retirement age anyway at this stage.

Of course, the questions goes back to whether they should be getting paid at all, but i don't see how anyone would take on that responsibility for nothing. The exception probably being Dooher and Logan but they are different in that they have obvious successful careers outside the GAA and i doubt very much if either takes anything beyond their fuel expenses. Different for the likes of 'career' managers like McGeeney. Does anyone know what he did before he went full time into management?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: lenny on August 23, 2023, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 01:31:11 PM
I am glad to see Jim back with Donegal.....they will be as good as they can be!
I would imagine he will join the £100k a year bracket that would currently include Harte, McGeeney, Tally.
Over £50k would be McEntee Antrim and McEntee Sligo, McConville, Devlin at Louth etc.......
Though clubs are paying massive amounts now too.
Between county and club, football and hurling I would imagine the brown bag economy is around the 200 million a year mark.......that's probably more money than swirling around all of the professional sports in Ireland put together!

I'd say Harte is on more than that. There's no way he took a pay cut to go to Louth.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2023, 04:24:01 PM
200m is a LOT of money. It's 200× 1000×1000 . Even though the huge Dubs funding was big it wasn't that big.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2023, 04:26:39 PM
Donegal end the year in a much better state than they entered it. They were trína chéile during the league. Just wondering if Big Jim can replicate the magic again. Second comings are often difficult.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2023, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.
Cavan should benefit from the fresh start.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
200million breakdown
Most counties spend 1m on their football and hurling teams........fire in ladies football and camogie and round each county to 2m so that's £64M.......spent on Managerial and player expenses
There are approx 2500 clubs all spending between 10k and 100k on managerial and player expenses (not mileage but looking after injuries etc) so even an average of 50k gets you to £125m which makes it £189m
To mangers and backroom.
County players
S&C Coaches
Physios
Nutritionists
Psychologist
Massues
Catering
Etc

It all adds up
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2023, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2023, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.
Cavan should benefit from the fresh start.

What do you mean by that?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on August 23, 2023, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.

Galligan to be manager rather than player manager. So ending his player career.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 23, 2023, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 23, 2023, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.

Galligan to be manager rather than player manager. So ending his player career.

I know O Neill was a class player but how would he be perceived as a coach?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on August 23, 2023, 09:34:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 23, 2023, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 23, 2023, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.

Galligan to be manager rather than player manager. So ending his player career.

I know O Neill was a class player but how would he be perceived as a coach?

Was involved in senior backroom teams in Tyrone and Antrim(?). I know he was credited with turning around Tyrones fortunes up front a few years back and helping them become more creative.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on August 23, 2023, 11:31:37 PM
Cavan new manager confirmed

Quote
Raymond Galligan is the new Cavan football manager, the county's 2020 Ulster winning captain heading up a stellar sideline ticket that includes two-time All-Ireland winning Meath ladies manager Eamonn Murray, former Tyrone forward Stephen O'Neill, and four-time World Cross-Country silver medalist Catherina McKiernan.

Galligan, Cavan's first-choice goalkeeper since 2015 and who wore that number one shirt as recently as their Tailteann Cup exit in-mid June, has been given a three-year term in the bainisteoir's bib.

James Burke, who was part of outgoing manager Mackey Graham's set-up, will remain as head coach.

As mentioned, there are a whole host of standout names in Galligan's backroom team. Eamonn Murray, who brought the Meath women from the intermediate ranks to back-to-back senior All-Irelands, is the assistant manager.

Stephen O'Neill won three All-Irelands with Tyrone; he will serve as their forwards coach.

Cavan native McKiernan, a hugely decorated cross-country runner and marathoner, holds the title of life coach.

Former League of Ireland shot-stopper Gary Rogers is on board as goalkeeping coach. Ronan Flanagan, a former Cavan teammate of Galligan's, is listed as the new player liaison officer.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WT4E on August 23, 2023, 11:39:22 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 23, 2023, 09:16:06 PM
200million breakdown
Most counties spend 1m on their football and hurling teams........fire in ladies football and camogie and round each county to 2m so that's £64M.......spent on Managerial and player expenses
There are approx 2500 clubs all spending between 10k and 100k on managerial and player expenses (not mileage but looking after injuries etc) so even an average of 50k gets you to £125m which makes it £189m
To mangers and backroom.
County players
S&C Coaches
Physios
Nutritionists
Psychologist
Massues
Catering
Etc

It all adds up

50k average for clubs is a fair stretch of the imagination
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 12:28:34 AM
Cavan looks like a very strong ticket. Danny Hughes was also in the race apparently.  He's quite good as well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 06:19:17 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 23, 2023, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2023, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.
Cavan should benefit from the fresh start.

What do you mean by that?
You would expect a lot of positive energy from that management team with the blend of experience and insight. Cavan should secure progress in the League. I think it looks very positive for Cavan.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 09:08:13 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0823/1401181-rogers-in-the-dark-on-meenaghs-future-as-derry-boss/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 24, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 12:28:34 AM
Cavan looks like a very strong ticket. Danny Hughes was also in the race apparently. He's quite good as well.

Based on what exactly?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 24, 2023, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 06:19:17 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 23, 2023, 09:26:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2023, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 23, 2023, 04:54:43 PM
Looks like Raymond Galligan Cavan manager. Stephen O Neill part of backroom team.
Cavan should benefit from the fresh start.

What do you mean by that?
You would expect a lot of positive energy from that management team with the blend of experience and insight. Cavan should secure progress in the League. I think it looks very positive for Cavan.

If he can get the older lads to hang around then maybe. There is not much coming through the underage I am afraid so if older lads go in numbers Ray will be up against it. I like the look of his backroom team and I hope it compensates for his lack of coaching experience.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.

Any club spending that need their heads read  :-[
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 12:53:51 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 24, 2023, 09:26:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 12:28:34 AM
Cavan looks like a very strong ticket. Danny Hughes was also in the race apparently. He's quite good as well.

Based on what exactly?
I think he is a good analyst and reads the game well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on August 24, 2023, 12:58:09 PM
Easy reading the game in a paper column
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on August 24, 2023, 01:14:47 PM
Did he not win the Down IFC with Saval? (As manager)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.

Any club spending that need their heads read  :-[

clearly someone who has no idea of the level needed to create the environment needed for success. Our club alone spent 21K on physico and ops last year. Admittedly two of the ops were unfortunate and not typical of a normal season. Still that figure is about spot on for any top senior club with aspirations. With an inside manager doing it for nothing, your still on the money mark
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
How many clubs per county would pay > 30k? 4? Or are all companies hypercompetitive?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 02:27:14 PM
There aren't that many clubs in any county able to win the championship, two, three and at a max four in most counties in any one or two seasons? Tyrone would be the most competitive, even there you wouldn't go by Errigal, Carrickmore, Dromore and Dungannon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 24, 2023, 02:57:29 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.

Any club spending that need their heads read  :-[

Football is a simple game spoiled by idiots and bluffers. If you are paying that sort of money you are in the idiot camp I'm afraid.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 24, 2023, 02:59:06 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.

Any club spending that need their heads read  :-[

clearly someone who has no idea of the level needed to create the environment needed for success. Our club alone spent 21K on physico and ops last year. Admittedly two of the ops were unfortunate and not typical of a normal season. Still that figure is about spot on for any top senior club with aspirations. With an inside manager doing it for nothing, your still on the money mark

How much of the 21k were operations as they would be surely claimed back on your insurance. Are ye one of these clubs that every player,  including the 5 stone overweight "bomber" who wears No 30 and never gets on, has to get a rub before every match by a physio??
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 03:37:41 PM
You get a max of about 5,000 from insurance unfortunately these two were considerably more, both abroad, with flights hotels etc. Players pay 40% of the cost of a physio visit. Ignorance is no excuse sir, a rub would be done by a masseur not a physico, that would be to expensive. Masseur only available for championship
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 03:45:59 PM
By the looks of things yous are about to find out how much it is to run a team Itchy.......a team with no chance of winning anything major!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 24, 2023, 04:10:50 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 03:45:59 PM
By the looks of things yous are about to find out how much it is to run a team Itchy.......a team with no chance of winning anything major!

That is a county team which is different than what was written above which was for a club team. County team costs are available in Cavan in our annual accounts.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 24, 2023, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 03:37:41 PM
You get a max of about 5,000 from insurance unfortunately these two were considerably more, both abroad, with flights hotels etc. Players pay 40% of the cost of a physio visit. Ignorance is no excuse sir, a rub would be done by a masseur not a physico, that would be to expensive. Masseur only available for championship

Physios giving lads rubs up and down the country lad. Most clubs pay insurance and advise fellas to get their own insurance. Your club is being very generous to cover 2 operations over 5k. Assuming each is 5k more you are down to 10k for physios. So your cost of 21k is blown out of proportion by 2 "one off" type injuries that your club chose to cover the expenses off. 10k for physio is high enough but not totally crazy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
Itchy I already said county level is £1m a year!
There wouldn't be a senior team in Tyrone not spending £50k a year, or Down, or Derry........even the clubs with an in house man at the front back them with everything they need.
On physios.......say they charge £25 per appt and £50 match cover which are both very reasonable.........even only 4 appts per week (if you head down to your local pitch a physio will be there for hours) is £150 a week for 9 or 10 months which os £6k.........some clubs have 2 physios.......use outside physios for bigger injuries......use rehabilitation gyms.......have massuese available.

Listen I am only highlighting what is going on and the industry that has been built around GAA. Sure the Cavan backroom team announced just reinforced it. And top clubs aren't far off that level.

Not saying its right or wrong but over the last 10 years this has built and built and you cannot put the genie back in the bottle....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brendan on August 24, 2023, 08:19:18 PM
And still certain club players refuse to pay membership because they feel they get nothing for their money, it's crazy
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 24, 2023, 10:56:56 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
Itchy I already said county level is £1m a year!
There wouldn't be a senior team in Tyrone not spending £50k a year, or Down, or Derry........even the clubs with an in house man at the front back them with everything they need.
On physios.......say they charge £25 per appt and £50 match cover which are both very reasonable.........even only 4 appts per week (if you head down to your local pitch a physio will be there for hours) is £150 a week for 9 or 10 months which os £6k.........some clubs have 2 physios.......use outside physios for bigger injuries......use rehabilitation gyms.......have massuese available.

Listen I am only highlighting what is going on and the industry that has been built around GAA. Sure the Cavan backroom team announced just reinforced it. And top clubs aren't far off that level.

Not saying its right or wrong but over the last 10 years this has built and built and you cannot put the genie back in the bottle....

All very true and those figures aren't exaggerated. Medical costs form a large part of the running of any clubs and players now expect this level of welfare. That's before the manager/coach (sometimes one and now often two for senior clubs) get their cut. Plus not all the payments will be seen in the club running costs as some clubs will have their own backers. It's a huge industry.

As for the Cavan back room team, I don't see too many names with a track record of success apart from the Meath ladies manager. The rest are made up of some good ex sports people which is a totally different skill set and some unknown backroom members. It might work but it looks like a managerial team cobbled together with a few big names thrown in to keep the natives happy.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on August 24, 2023, 11:27:20 PM
Some of the backroom were there already so it's not all totally new. James Burke ex Mayo coach was there this year. Andre Quinn been with Cavan for the past few years in a full time position head of Athletic .
Gary Rogers worked with Cavan before for 2 years.

Murray is from Cavan orginally.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2023, 07:19:06 AM
Cavan have to stay in the top half of D2 as a start. It will have to be well managed.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on August 25, 2023, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.

Any club spending that need their heads read  :-[

clearly someone who has no idea of the level needed to create the environment needed for success. Our club alone spent 21K on physico and ops last year. Admittedly two of the ops were unfortunate and not typical of a normal season. Still that figure is about spot on for any top senior club with aspirations. With an inside manager doing it for nothing, your still on the money mark

Except that the money spent on these coaches is not always reflective of the level of their ability. Its an industry full of spivs and bluffers. The biggest culprits are those clubs who spend crazy sums to get high profile celebrity names in for a session or two either coaching or to give talks to a club side. Most are high profile county managers or ex players. Nobody will ever prove whether they were effective or not but if they can sell themselves well and talk flowery language they will make an impression on some young lads but the reality is that the club members are paying for the privilege of hiring these lads. At least with a coach and a physio there is a form of service being provided which can be measured easily. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sonny Joe on August 25, 2023, 09:40:05 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 25, 2023, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on August 24, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on August 24, 2023, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 02:46:51 AM
50k to cover
Manager
Coach
Physio
S&C
Nutritionist
Mri scans
An operation or 2 a year

Look round most clubs next time you play a match and see how many people are on the sideline.......even some junior clubs would surprise you.

Most senior clubs with any ambition are spending way more than that.

Any club spending that need their heads read  :-[

clearly someone who has no idea of the level needed to create the environment needed for success. Our club alone spent 21K on physico and ops last year. Admittedly two of the ops were unfortunate and not typical of a normal season. Still that figure is about spot on for any top senior club with aspirations. With an inside manager doing it for nothing, your still on the money mark

Except that the money spent on these coaches is not always reflective of the level of their ability. Its an industry full of spivs and bluffers. The biggest culprits are those clubs who spend crazy sums to get high profile celebrity names in for a session or two either coaching or to give talks to a club side. Most are high profile county managers or ex players. Nobody will ever prove whether they were effective or not but if they can sell themselves well and talk flowery language they will make an impression on some young lads but the reality is that the club members are paying for the privilege of hiring these lads. At least with a coach and a physio there is a form of service being provided which can be measured easily.

agree entirely that is some bullshit and totally pointless, with an outcome that would last about two hours.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 25, 2023, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: The Trap on August 24, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
Itchy I already said county level is £1m a year!
There wouldn't be a senior team in Tyrone not spending £50k a year, or Down, or Derry........even the clubs with an in house man at the front back them with everything they need.
On physios.......say they charge £25 per appt and £50 match cover which are both very reasonable.........even only 4 appts per week (if you head down to your local pitch a physio will be there for hours) is £150 a week for 9 or 10 months which os £6k.........some clubs have 2 physios.......use outside physios for bigger injuries......use rehabilitation gyms.......have massuese available.

Listen I am only highlighting what is going on and the industry that has been built around GAA. Sure the Cavan backroom team announced just reinforced it. And top clubs aren't far off that level.

Not saying its right or wrong but over the last 10 years this has built and built and you cannot put the genie back in the bottle....

I do find it hard to believe that every senior team in Tyrone is spending 50k on their senior team. If they are then what a ridiculous waste of money. Is there a penny left for anything else after that or are ye all super rich clubs up there? All this stuff that lads think they need to be cutting edge at club level is such nonsense. As I said, its a simple enough game when its broken down. I am not a dinosaur, I coached senior teams and underage teams and I still do with some success. The biggest problem seems to be that players think they are missing out if they don't have all this garbage and of course isnt it also a great excuse (if only we had 2 physios like team X we would have won the championship!), it deflects away from the basic requirements of turning up to training and applying yourself at trainings and matches - you can always blame the lack of expertise on the line instead of take responsibility.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sonny Joe on August 25, 2023, 10:26:18 AM
We are clearly not talking like for like, as the 2/3 teams at the top end that prepare the way I am suggesting, train and prepare properly, no missing training, fully committed, there or there abouts each year. Why would any club invest in players if they didn't do the basics like attend every session and bust a gut.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 25, 2023, 02:16:27 PM
Quote from: Sonny Joe on August 25, 2023, 10:26:18 AM
We are clearly not talking like for like, as the 2/3 teams at the top end that prepare the way I am suggesting, train and prepare properly, no missing training, fully committed, there or there abouts each year. Why would any club invest in players if they didn't do the basics like attend every session and bust a gut.

Why indeed
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2023, 02:19:57 PM
Financial conditions vary hugely by County. I doubt top clubs in most Leinster counties or N Connacht are forking out what is paid in Tyrone where they never win the club all Ireland.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on August 25, 2023, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 25, 2023, 02:19:57 PM
Financial conditions vary hugely by County. I doubt top clubs in most Leinster counties or N Connacht are forking out what is paid in Tyrone where they never win the club all Ireland.

I would say total turnover in some top clubs would be 50k.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2023, 02:32:30 PM
 The ESRI report might have some numbers.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2023, 02:59:42 PM
"County level is £1m per annum." For D2-4? 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on August 26, 2023, 03:43:44 PM
Fitzgerald steps down from Waterford




Football.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2023, 03:15:25 PM
There was an interesting discussion on Sunday Sport on Radio 1 just now. Derry are probably close to their peak, as are Armagh. Tyrone management are staying on. The Dubs will have some retirements. JM will have a United team and will probably do something different. He will be able to raise money. A very different dynamic to earlier in the year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 06, 2023, 07:42:06 AM
Jack O'Connor chose another 2 year. He didn't want to bow out on a loss to Dublin.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brendan on September 11, 2023, 05:39:46 PM
Ciaran meenagh officially rules himself out of contention for the Derry job  :'(
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2023, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Brendan on September 11, 2023, 05:39:46 PM
Ciaran meenagh officially rules himself out of contention for the Derry job  :'(

Late departure, why the two months in order to decide if he was staying or going?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LC on September 11, 2023, 06:20:24 PM
Quote from: Brendan on September 11, 2023, 05:39:46 PM
Ciaran meenagh officially rules himself out of contention for the Derry job  :'(

Head hunted by some club in Monaghan apparently who currently have a vacancy.........and deep pockets.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on September 11, 2023, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2023, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Brendan on September 11, 2023, 05:39:46 PM
Ciaran meenagh officially rules himself out of contention for the Derry job  :'(

Late departure, why the two months in order to decide if he was staying or going?

Chatting to few mates today from Derry and said county board were holding out to see if they could keep Gallagher could stay in post. Meenagh was never taking over but just buying time until mess got sorted !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2023, 06:50:40 PM
Quote from: the goal was on on September 11, 2023, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 11, 2023, 05:52:56 PM
Quote from: Brendan on September 11, 2023, 05:39:46 PM
Ciaran meenagh officially rules himself out of contention for the Derry job  :'(

Late departure, why the two months in order to decide if he was staying or going?

Chatting to few mates today from Derry and said county board were holding out to see if they could keep Gallagher could stay in post. Meenagh was never taking over but just buying time until mess got sorted !

That ended when Rory Gallagher officially stepped down as Derry manager in mid May.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on September 12, 2023, 12:00:15 PM
Derry exited the championship 8 weeks ago so it was strange how Meenagh waited so long to arrive at the decision that he was stepping away. It can't be any coincidence that the announcement that he was stepping down came on the same day that Gallagher was debarred from coaching by the Ulster council.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on September 12, 2023, 12:30:41 PM
Looks like meenagh was waiting for Rory to come back
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 12, 2023, 01:10:49 PM
Maybe he is afraid of the wrath of the  father. Meenagh will have no problem finding another county role after that semi final.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on September 13, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
BBC Radio Ulster just said Malachy O'Rourke to be appointed Derry Manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 13, 2023, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 13, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
BBC Radio Ulster just said Malachy O'Rourke to be appointed Derry Manager.

Would such an appointment rule him out of a future Tyrone manager role I wonder? Thought malachy would have been the obvious choice after dooher and co steps down
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tbrick18 on September 13, 2023, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 13, 2023, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 13, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
BBC Radio Ulster just said Malachy O'Rourke to be appointed Derry Manager.

Would such an appointment rule him out of a future Tyrone manager role I wonder? Thought malachy would have been the obvious choice after dooher and co steps down

I'd say he'd prefer to go somewhere where he has a chance of winning major honours!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rrhf on September 13, 2023, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 13, 2023, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 13, 2023, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 13, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
BBC Radio Ulster just said Malachy O'Rourke to be appointed Derry Manager.

Would such an appointment rule him out of a future Tyrone manager role I wonder? Thought malachy would have been the obvious choice after dooher and co steps down

I'd say he'd prefer to go somewhere where he has a chance of winning major honours!  ;) ;)
What is the biggest title he has ever  won. Just checking if he would be suitable for the Derry wans. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on September 13, 2023, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 13, 2023, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 13, 2023, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: ck on September 13, 2023, 11:34:36 AM
BBC Radio Ulster just said Malachy O'Rourke to be appointed Derry Manager.

Would such an appointment rule him out of a future Tyrone manager role I wonder? Thought malachy would have been the obvious choice after dooher and co steps down

I'd say he'd prefer to go somewhere where he has a chance of winning major honours!  ;) ;)

He's a very successful manager but has not won an All-Ireland. His choice now is if an All-Ireland is more likely with Glen or Derry. My guess is that he will attempt to do both, he'll bring Glen to All-Ireland stages this year and double job with Derry before stepping down with Glen.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 13, 2023, 06:58:29 PM
O'Rourke retired from teaching makes it a good time to take on the Derry Gig.  Interesting if Glen win Derry and
and Kilcoo were to emerge from Down again, the big two in Ulster club football for the last two seasons would be on opposite sides of the draw, unable to meet until the provincial final.

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/09/12/news/comment_derry_will_have_to_throw_everything_at_landing_malachy_o_rourke_now-3606451/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Deerstalker on September 18, 2023, 07:22:47 PM
Harte stepping down in Louth

Derry bound ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 18, 2023, 07:29:09 PM
That's what the Irish news and independent are reporting

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/louth/sport/gaa/mickey-harte-stands-down-as-louth-gaa-senior-football-team-manager/a578314877.html  (https://m.independent.ie/regionals/louth/sport/gaa/mickey-harte-stands-down-as-louth-gaa-senior-football-team-manager/a578314877.html)


https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/09/18/news/harte_looks_bound_for_derry_after_stepping_down_in_louth-3621932/  (https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/09/18/news/harte_looks_bound_for_derry_after_stepping_down_in_louth-3621932/)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on September 18, 2023, 07:36:30 PM
Wtf?!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on September 18, 2023, 07:39:30 PM
Confirmed

https://x.com/louthgaa/status/1703838883920671114?t=ksrhhwgemoadureJB37UxQ&s=08  (https://x.com/louthgaa/status/1703838883920671114?t=ksrhhwgemoadureJB37UxQ&s=08)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2023, 07:50:10 PM
 :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ClubScene13 on September 18, 2023, 07:57:55 PM
I'm sure that will go down well with the natives... of both counties
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LC on September 18, 2023, 08:15:13 PM
A team who believe they are capable of winning an All Ireland and a manager who has a point to prove as many believe, especially in his own county, he did not have it in him to win an All Ireland again.

Some crack if Derry draw Donegal in the championship with the boul Jim back on the scene.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 18, 2023, 08:18:21 PM
Where does Mickey get the energy. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 18, 2023, 08:43:06 PM
Money talks!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 18, 2023, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 18, 2023, 08:18:21 PM
Where does Mickey get the energy.
When he looks at the bank balance.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 18, 2023, 09:18:27 PM
Interesting development,  big loss for Louth had them punching well above their weight.  Derry hoping to challenging for All Ireland and bring in All Ireland winning manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: smort on September 18, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
What a time for the board to be on the go-slow!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 09:34:33 PM
Based in his last 5 years at Tyrone, Mickey is not the man to give Derry the attacking freedom and confidence to climb the last hurdle or two.

They're more likely to implode than explode from here I reckon.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on September 18, 2023, 10:02:38 PM
Shocked that Derry would let a Tyrone man in to manage them. Kind of shocked by the way Harte dumped Louth too.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 18, 2023, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 09:34:33 PM
Based in his last 5 years at Tyrone, Mickey is not the man to give Derry the attacking freedom and confidence to climb the last hurdle or two.

They're more likely to implode than explode from here I reckon.

Derry currently are a better team than thr last 5 years of teams Harte managed at Tyrone. Remains to seen how he does with Derry as All-Ireland semi final could already be their ceiling regardless of manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 18, 2023, 10:09:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 18, 2023, 10:02:38 PM
Shocked that Derry would let a Tyrone man in to manage them. Kind of shocked by the way Harte dumped Louth too.

Doubt the county he's from came into the Derry county board thinking when he's a manager with a CV filled with All Irelands won.   How more could he have brought Louth? took them on in Div 4 and left them in Div 2 which included a 3rd place finish this year.  He's 71 now and this is last chance for another big gig.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 18, 2023, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 09:34:33 PM
Based in his last 5 years at Tyrone, Mickey is not the man to give Derry the attacking freedom and confidence to climb the last hurdle or two.

They're more likely to implode than explode from here I reckon.

Derry currently are a better team than thr last 5 years of teams Harte managed at Tyrone. Remains to seen how he does with Derry as All-Ireland semi final could already be their ceiling regardless of manager.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 18, 2023, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 09:34:33 PM
Based in his last 5 years at Tyrone, Mickey is not the man to give Derry the attacking freedom and confidence to climb the last hurdle or two.

They're more likely to implode than explode from here I reckon.

Derry currently are a better team than thr last 5 years of teams Harte managed at Tyrone. Remains to seen how he does with Derry as All-Ireland semi final could already be their ceiling regardless of manager.

There's a wee touch of revisionism in what you're saying.

Tyrone won Ulster in 16 and 17 and got to the AI final in 18.

But my take on those last few years is that Tyrone looked shackled by a manager fully immersed in mistake free, safety first football.

I really don't think that's what Derry needs now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: From the Bunker on September 18, 2023, 10:21:11 PM
Ah, you'd have to be disappointed with getting Harte.

You look at all these Managers who have success, drift into mediocrity, get sacked (or resign) and then come back.
Time, tactics and energy are not the same.

Tyrone in Hartes final years were unbelievably boring and negative. That group would never had won an AI if he was at the helm in 2021. In the same vein the 03, 05, 08 All Irelands would not have been won without Harte. Although, more AI titles could have been won had he given less attention to his obsession of the McKenna Cup.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 18, 2023, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 18, 2023, 07:36:30 PM
Wtf?!
;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2023, 10:48:20 PM
They not make a final in them last 5yrs.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on September 18, 2023, 11:04:03 PM
Mickey Graham gone to Leitrim as Assistant Manager to Andy Moran. Also bizarre
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Silver hill on September 19, 2023, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: Itchy on September 18, 2023, 11:04:03 PMMickey Graham gone to Leitrim as Assistant Manager to Andy Moran. Also bizarre

Bills still have to be paid itchy!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 19, 2023, 08:21:18 AM
Harte to Derry. As the religious zealot he is he will be familiar with the character Judas in the Bible. Who would've thought he would become one.
He always was banging on about tradition in the GAA. Where's his when it comes to community, volunteerism. He has thrashed what was left of his legacy in Tyrone.

Derry need to ask themselves how will they cope with the football being even more boring and negative than under RG?
How will Derry players take to being forced to go to Mass? 

His last years in Tyrone showed that football had evolved and he hadn't.

He's a persona non grata.

Hat tip to Louth GAA who absolutely lit Harte on fire with their statement.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 19, 2023, 08:35:10 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 09:34:33 PMBased in his last 5 years at Tyrone, Mickey is not the man to give Derry the attacking freedom and confidence to climb the last hurdle or two.

They're more likely to implode than explode from here I reckon.
At Christmas 1992 Eamonn Coleman knew that he had the players Derry needed to win the All Ireland even if nobody else did.

The team was a collection of leaders and winners. People from other counties still remember them. Downey (Henry) Tohill, Scullion, Brolly, McGurk, Gormley.

It's not clear that  the problem this year was the manager
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Eire90 on September 19, 2023, 09:04:33 AM
I did not think he would ever manage another team in ulster as he would be more likely to play against tyrone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: blasmere on September 19, 2023, 09:12:03 AM
Quote from: seafoid on September 19, 2023, 08:35:10 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 18, 2023, 09:34:33 PMBased in his last 5 years at Tyrone, Mickey is not the man to give Derry the attacking freedom and confidence to climb the last hurdle or two.

They're more likely to implode than explode from here I reckon.
At Christmas 1992 Eamonn Coleman knew that he had the players Derry needed to win the All Ireland even if nobody else did.

The team was a collection of leaders and winners. People from other counties still remember them. Downey (Henry) Tohill, Scullion, Brolly, McGurk, Gormley.

It's not clear that  the problem this year was the manager

A leader in that team, really?
McKeever and McGilligan were but not their clubmate Brolly, decent but probably not a leader.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 19, 2023, 09:25:48 AM
I'd suspect like Rochford in the other place Micky will be the real manager.
The Ros man not cutting it in Laythrum.
Quote from: Itchy on September 18, 2023, 11:04:03 PMMickey Graham gone to Leitrim as Assistant Manager to Andy Moran. Also bizarre
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tbrick18 on September 19, 2023, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on September 18, 2023, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 18, 2023, 10:02:38 PMShocked that Derry would let a Tyrone man in to manage them. Kind of shocked by the way Harte dumped Louth too.
Sure they had Brian McIver.

Who was a major reason behind the freefall to Div 4 and the crisis in Derry county.
As manager he was a disaster.
As Director of Football he was an absolute disaster....and cost us a lot of money in a salary.

I'm still in shock that Harte is in though.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on September 19, 2023, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: trailer on September 19, 2023, 08:21:18 AMHarte to Derry. As the religious zealot he is he will be familiar with the character Judas in the Bible. Who would've thought he would become one.
He always was banging on about tradition in the GAA. Where's his when it comes to community, volunteerism. He has thrashed what was left of his legacy in Tyrone.

Derry need to ask themselves how will they cope with the football being even more boring and negative than under RG?
How will Derry players take to being forced to go to Mass? 

His last years in Tyrone showed that football had evolved and he hadn't.

He's a persona non grata.

Hat tip to Louth GAA who absolutely lit Harte on fire with their statement.

I've always thought that Harte felt he was judased by Tyrone County Board funny enough. It'll be interesting to see what he does with a team that are top quality, although still very much lightweight upfront and a McGuigan injury away from dropping down the pecking order imo.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 19, 2023, 10:44:59 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 19, 2023, 10:07:28 AM
Quote from: trailer on September 19, 2023, 08:21:18 AMHarte to Derry. As the religious zealot he is he will be familiar with the character Judas in the Bible. Who would've thought he would become one.
He always was banging on about tradition in the GAA. Where's his when it comes to community, volunteerism. He has thrashed what was left of his legacy in Tyrone.

Derry need to ask themselves how will they cope with the football being even more boring and negative than under RG?
How will Derry players take to being forced to go to Mass? 

His last years in Tyrone showed that football had evolved and he hadn't.

He's a persona non grata.

Hat tip to Louth GAA who absolutely lit Harte on fire with their statement.

I've always thought that Harte felt he was judased by Tyrone County Board funny enough. It'll be interesting to see what he does with a team that are top quality, although still very much lightweight upfront and a McGuigan injury away from dropping down the pecking order imo.

Yes Judased by giving him the best part of 20 years as Senior Manager.
I'm away to have a f**king lie down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AM
Class to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Eire90 on September 19, 2023, 11:34:12 AM
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/womans-fury-as-sex-attacker-given-reference-by-gaa-boss-harte-is-jailed-for-two-and-a-half-years/29102469.html
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AMClass to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 

Think you are missing the issue here. Its class to see derry going to a tyrone man to try and get an All Ireland.

Best news for tyrone and a backward step for derry. There is a reason why tyrone finally got rid of him. Too stuborn and hasnt moved with the times.

Look how fantastic darren mccurry has been playing since he left. Derry are going to regret this one and I cant wait  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 19, 2023, 12:01:45 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AMClass to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 

Think you are missing the issue here. Its class to see derry going to a tyrone man to try and get an All Ireland.

Best news for tyrone and a backward step for derry. There is a reason why tyrone finally got rid of him. Too stuborn and hasnt moved with the times.

Look how fantastic darren mccurry has been playing since he left. Derry are going to regret this one and I cant wait  ;D

You can just feel the nervous undertones in this post! ;D

Nose dived at a serious rate of knots the last couple of years but at least the Dazler is playing well
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AMClass to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 

Think you are missing the issue here. Its class to see derry going to a tyrone man to try and get an All Ireland.

Best news for tyrone and a backward step for derry. There is a reason why tyrone finally got rid of him. Too stuborn and hasnt moved with the times.

Look how fantastic darren mccurry has been playing since he left. Derry are going to regret this one and I cant wait  ;D

You keep telling that to yourself lad. You'll eventually believe it. Ye have 4 AI's and at the back of it all the obsession with Derry is still there. Twitter was a fine example of that last night. Love it. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 12:25:55 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AMClass to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 

Think you are missing the issue here. Its class to see derry going to a tyrone man to try and get an All Ireland.

Best news for tyrone and a backward step for derry. There is a reason why tyrone finally got rid of him. Too stuborn and hasnt moved with the times.

Look how fantastic darren mccurry has been playing since he left. Derry are going to regret this one and I cant wait  ;D

You keep telling that to yourself lad. You'll eventually believe it. Ye have 4 AI's and at the back of it all the obsession with Derry is still there. Twitter was a fine example of that last night. Love it. 

Time will tell i suppose.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armamike on September 19, 2023, 12:31:39 PM
Agent Micky? 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ClubScene13 on September 19, 2023, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AMClass to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 

Think you are missing the issue here. Its class to see derry going to a tyrone man to try and get an All Ireland.

Best news for tyrone and a backward step for derry. There is a reason why tyrone finally got rid of him. Too stuborn and hasnt moved with the times.

Look how fantastic darren mccurry has been playing since he left. Derry are going to regret this one and I cant wait  ;D

You keep telling that to yourself lad. You'll eventually believe it. Ye have 4 AI's and at the back of it all the obsession with Derry is still there. Twitter was a fine example of that last night. Love it. 

Hilarious take. Absolutely irrelevant for 20 years sure ye weren't even a threat?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: WT4E on September 19, 2023, 12:53:22 PM
Derry wans still talk about Tokkkhill and and and BIG GINGER 30 years on! :D Harte is not the man and Derry are now fecked! lol
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 19, 2023, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 12:15:53 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 19, 2023, 11:54:35 AM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 19, 2023, 10:45:59 AMClass to see Derry living rent-free in Tyrone ones heads.

 

Think you are missing the issue here. Its class to see derry going to a tyrone man to try and get an All Ireland.

Best news for tyrone and a backward step for derry. There is a reason why tyrone finally got rid of him. Too stuborn and hasnt moved with the times.

Look how fantastic darren mccurry has been playing since he left. Derry are going to regret this one and I cant wait  ;D

You keep telling that to yourself lad. You'll eventually believe it. Ye have 4 AI's and at the back of it all the obsession with Derry is still there. Twitter was a fine example of that last night. Love it. 

Obsession = rolling around laughing.

That said. I must be the only one that thinks this will be good for Derry. MH will be motivated and contrary to popular current belief, is an excellent manager. It might have been time for him to leave Tyrone, but I fully expect to see Derry do well with him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NAG1 on September 19, 2023, 01:04:28 PM
Genuinely can't believe this appointment.

I would have thought the Derry Co Board would have had a fair bit more insight than this.

Does this mean that MO'R wasn't available? Or was he even approached?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 19, 2023, 01:54:55 PM
So the Derry players get a new Mickey
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 19, 2023, 01:55:38 PM
It's going to cost Derry. Imagine what all that money could do for youth and underage. Instead it's going to be skimmed off the top and into the Senior team.

This has disaster written all over it for Derry and Harte
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 19, 2023, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 19, 2023, 01:55:38 PMIt's going to cost Derry. Imagine what all that money could do for youth and underage. Instead it's going to be skimmed off the top and into the Senior team.

This has disaster written all over it for Derry and Harte

Ha, surely you're not that niave??  ;D
You're like a wee Jack Russell running around a big field with this news.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shawshank on September 19, 2023, 03:55:15 PM
All the Tyrones wans crying bout Harte, they wanted him out, pushed him out and now they are crying about where they want him to manage or not. The entitlement.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 19, 2023, 04:14:42 PM
Quote from: shawshank on September 19, 2023, 03:55:15 PMAll the Tyrones wans crying bout Harte, they wanted him out, pushed him out and now they are crying about where they want him to manage or not. The entitlement.

How was he pushed out? He had the job for 18 years. His contract wasn't renewed. Maybe due to costs and a cut in revenue streams due to covid, or because he had long since past his sell by date, who knows. He's free to manage whoever he likes. But here's the facts...

He left Louth high and dry after committing to them. Walked out when another piece of ass showed him their thigh if you like. Poor form.
He has gone to one of his native counties biggest rivals. And this coming from the man who talked about loyalty and commitment, often going as far as to directly intervene and stop Tyrone players moving to Australia for a professional life.
His reputation in Tyrone is sullied.

Perhaps, in time, Derry will grow to hate him like we did. I wish him well.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: deadlock on September 19, 2023, 06:30:49 PM
Good move by Derry board, fresh approach for there Ulster winning team starting in division 1, a trainer who knows Derry club football, a proven all Ireland winning manager and a lot of young talent coming through. Odds shorting on Derry!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 19, 2023, 07:34:56 PM
Tyrone were top table for every year of Mickey Hartes 18.
The win their 4th all ireland with a team Harte had put together and shaped.
He then took a Division 4 Team and left them in 3rd spot of Division 2.
I don't know if he can take Derry over the line but i do believe he is the best man fir the job.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 19, 2023, 08:03:29 PM
O'Rourke was the best man for the job, then Gavin (Unrealistic due to location) then Meenagh, and then McGuinness /Harte, am happy enough that we weren't foolish enough to go in lnhouse. Not be popular in parts of Derry but more due to certain references.some said we take our chances with Gallagher lol,. We see where Harte takes us, can't understand why the Tyronies are in such a Tizzy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 19, 2023, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 19, 2023, 07:34:56 PMTyrone were top table for every year of Mickey Hartes 18.
The win their 4th all ireland with a team Harte had put together and shaped.
He then took a Division 4 Team and left them in 3rd spot of Division 2.
I don't know if he can take Derry over the line but i do believe he is the best man fir the job.


He certainly had a big input into the team that won the fourth All-Ireland - strength and conditioning in particular - but they also certainly wouldn't have won it with him in charge. He was absolutely spooked by McGuiness in early 2010s to the extent he changed his style to try and replicate the ultra defensive model. He could never do it anywhere near as effectively McGuiness though (or Gallagher's Derry for that matter) and just limited Tyrone. We beat teams we'd have beaten anyway with a more expansive style and didn't beat anyone really good - which is the only reason you'd adopt such a style. His last truly landmark Tyrone championship wins were in 2008. There was the embarrassing 2017 semi when Tyrone conceded an early goal and had no idea what to do thereafter. The game was gone after 5 mins. On then reaching the final in 2018 he threw out everything he had based the team on and went all out attack for the first 30 mins - absolute desperation stuff which showed up the flaws of his previous rigid plan - and had the game lost by half time. It was so telling in the wake of 2021 that a number of Tyrone players spoke of playing with a freedom and feeling able to take on shots and passes which would have resulted in them being subbed under the suffocating regime of Mickey in the last few years. He stayed on a few years too long in Tyrone.

I think he probably knew there wasn't much more mileage in Louth and this is a good time to cash in and take a job with a stronger team. Don't believe for a second it's got anything to do with money - he will he absolutely determined to try and win another title. But I do really question if he is really the man to kick Derry on - his glory days at the highest level are a pretty long way off now. He's a controversial figure and hard to argue with everything he says and does but I also believe he has also often been an inspirational figure, with the way he has handled terrible loss and helped others in similar situations being particularly impressive.

It's a bold call anyway - from Mickey and Derry - and it's going to be fascinating to watch it unfold.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 01:26:44 PM
Mickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on September 20, 2023, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 01:26:44 PMMickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?

The hypocrisy of everyone in that "debate" was unreal. William Crawley had guests on yesterday eulogising Harte and today it was a character assassination. That lady Goretti Horgan hadn't a clue about anything GAA and it was a word salad every time she spoke. Declan Bouge should have had a bit more cop on that to be involved in it.

Where were all these people over the past 10 years? Did they complain and protest at Tyrone keeping him as a manager when this surfaced all them years ago. Did they complain to the BBC when they hired him as an analyst and to Louth when they appointed Mickey as manager? Or is it just because it makes a good soundbite at the minute and it makes them feel relevant? Nicola Gallagher is yesterday's news for the majority of those who pounced on that story at the time including the media. It's typical of social media and the media in general before they move onto the next "popular" story.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: smort on September 20, 2023, 02:02:44 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on September 20, 2023, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 01:26:44 PMMickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?

The hypocrisy of everyone in that "debate" was unreal. William Crawley had guests on yesterday eulogising Harte and today it was a character assassination. That lady Goretti Horgan hadn't a clue about anything GAA and it was a word salad every time she spoke. Declan Bouge should have had a bit more cop on that to be involved in it.

Where were all these people over the past 10 years? Did they complain and protest at Tyrone keeping him as a manager when this surfaced all them years ago. Did they complain to the BBC when they hired him as an analyst and to Louth when they appointed Mickey as manager? Or is it just because it makes a good soundbite at the minute and it makes them feel relevant? Nicola Gallagher is yesterday's news for the majority of those who pounced on that story at the time including the media. It's typical of social media and the media in general before they move onto the next "popular" story.


Spot on
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 20, 2023, 04:27:45 PM
How do you figure its a clanger?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 20, 2023, 01:26:44 PMMickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on September 20, 2023, 06:39:12 PM
Brolly was made look a bit of a tit yesterday when he complained about someone managing another county and how its against the spirit of the GAA. It was pointed out that there are many managers doing the same (Mcconville Wicklow, Morgan Leitrim) and he hasn't complained about them once!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 20, 2023, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 20, 2023, 06:39:12 PMBrolly was made look a bit of a tit yesterday when he complained about someone managing another county and how its against the spirit of the GAA. It was pointed out that there are many managers doing the same (Mcconville Wicklow, Morgan Leitrim) and he hasn't complained about them once!

Did Brian Mullins not manage him to an Ulster championship?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AM
Tyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: laceer on September 21, 2023, 08:50:35 AM
Harte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: square_ball on September 21, 2023, 09:27:25 AM
'Hounded out' is a strange way to put it when in 2019 he agreed on one final year in 2020 and served that year out. It was time for a change no big deal.

Mickey is obviously still very bitter about not getting an additional year as he deemed 2020 a write off due to the covid circumstances. This then would have been heightened even further when he saw 'his' team win the AI the year after he left. Whether he gets his revenge so to speak by taking Derry to an All Ireland who knows?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 21, 2023, 09:46:14 AM
Derry were very impressive in the semi final in CP. They did everything right until the home stretch.  What extra can Harte bring to the table ?

When  a team fails at whatever stage of the championship it means that that particular iteration of the team is not good enough and that certain players will not be appearing in the county jersey again. This is a real pain in the hole on the way home. It really hurts. But it is necessary unless you want the county to repeat the dose next year.
 
You have to replace the departing players  with players of a higher quality. Otherwise there is no progress. And there is no Sam. And Sam is forever. If they win they will never be forgotten.

An example of this process was 1997 when Mayo bate a Galway team which was pretty good but not good enough. John Donnellan was one of the marquee players. Val Daly was player manager. 2 very good players. But there was no sign of either in the semi final the next year. The team was overhauled and players like Michael Donnellan and Joyce were brought in. The jigsaw was complete. Galway hurlers did the cure in 2015-16. Tyrone did it in the run up to 2021 . They had one chance to benefit from the absence of the Dubs and they did it.

Eamonn Coleman had a plan to win the All Ireland . But he had to get there first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd7oYNpQ_B0&t=65s

By 92 he had 80% of the team that won the holiest of GAA holies.
 They were beaten narrowly by donegal in 92. Donegal went off to win Sam. coleman knew they were very close but they needed the finishing touch. He had to do the same pruning exercise.

1992 Ulster SFC Final team:

Derry: Damien McCusker; Kieran McKeever, Danny Quinn, Tony Scullion; John McGurk, Henry Downey (capt.), Gary Coleman; Brian McGilligan, Dermot Heaney; Anthony Tohill (0-1), Dermot McNicholl (0-1), Damian Cassidy; Declan Bateson, Seamus Downey (1-0), Enda Gormley (0-6, 0-5 frees).

Substitutes: Damian Barton (0-1) for Tohill (h-t, inj.); John McErlain for Quinn (50); Joe Brolly for Bateson (54).

Danny Quinn was dropped for the final.

So- who are the players now who are just not quite good enough to go all the way ?
And- who does Derry have to replace them ?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.


As I said before, Tyronies upset show there entitlement almost in every post. Derry are better, your entitlement can't allow you see it. Derry are close, Harte knows it, your entitled mind set prevents you from knowing it. I hope Derry draw Tyrone so we illustrate once again we have a better team.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on September 21, 2023, 10:10:46 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.

Cavan and Down have 5. That must make them a bigger and better team than Tyrone then.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 10:18:05 AM
Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.


As I said before, Tyronies upset show there entitlement almost in every post. Derry are better, your entitlement can't allow you see it. Derry are close, Harte knows it, your entitled mind set prevents you from knowing it. I hope Derry draw Tyrone so we illustrate once again we have a better team.

Thats some take on it. The guy was simply pointing out facts that currently tyrone have more AIs and more success in the past 20 years than derry have had. Its hardly wrong.

Doesnt mean than currently tyrone are better than derry. In the past 2 years derry have been far better than tyrone.

Think some of you derry wans are in for a shock in the next few years. Mickey hasnt beaten a dublin, kerry or mayo side in championship football in a decade, this includes when he had the recent AI winning tyrone side at his dispoal. You think he can do it with a derry side who couldnt beat kerry or havent gotten to an AI final?

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: laceer on September 21, 2023, 08:50:35 AMHarte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.

This is 100% spot on. Mickey convinced many of player to commit to tyrone out of loyalty. First chance he gets he goes to a main rival.

Like a typical religious zealot he is as two faced as they come.

Mickey only cares that he is always right even when the evidence shows hes not.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ClubScene13 on September 21, 2023, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.


As I said before, Tyronies upset show there entitlement almost in every post. Derry are better, your entitlement can't allow you see it. Derry are close, Harte knows it, your entitled mind set prevents you from knowing it. I hope Derry draw Tyrone so we illustrate once again we have a better team.

If Eamonn Coleman took over the reigns in Tyrone when they were a coming team I don't think you would be showing your entitlement if it annoyed you a bit. It's natural. The rivalries are what make the GAA, Tyrone and Derry will always have a healthy disdain. I don't think it sits that well in either county tbh. Derry are a better team than Tyrone right now but I would be stunned if Harte gets them over the line for the big one.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GTP on September 21, 2023, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.

Since Tyrone have won 4 All-Irelands surely the reference is to Louth's 3: 1910, 1912 and 1957. As Derry went further in the All-Ireland series, won their provincial championship, beat them away from home and got promoted ahead of Louth in the league by any current measure they are a better team. 
They are not bigger if the sole measure is All-Ireland's won, but I doubt many people would make a sincere argument that the current Derry side do not present a bigger opportunity for a manager to enjoy success than Louth.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 21, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
Great to see the Derry ones ones jump to defend MH. I must have imagined all those negative posts by the Derry posters about MH in the past.  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 11:09:10 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 21, 2023, 10:59:20 AMGreat to see the Derry ones ones jump to defend MH. I must have imagined all those negative posts by the Derry posters about MH in the past.  ;D


It is amazing lol
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: GTP on September 21, 2023, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.

Since Tyrone have won 4 All-Irelands surely the reference is to Louth's 3: 1910, 1912 and 1957. As Derry went further in the All-Ireland series, won their provincial championship, beat them away from home and got promoted ahead of Louth in the league by any current measure they are a better team. 
They are not bigger if the sole measure is All-Ireland's won, but I doubt many people would make a sincere argument that the current Derry side do not present a bigger opportunity for a manager to enjoy success than Louth.


How many provincial titles would this Derry team have won if they were in Leinster? Strange to use that sort of logic to try to portray Derry as superior to Louth.

I think I can nearly hear the Derry wans furiously scrolling through years of posts deleting any post they made slagging Harte off...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 21, 2023, 11:46:35 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: laceer on September 21, 2023, 08:50:35 AMHarte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.

This is 100% spot on. Mickey convinced many of player to commit to tyrone out of loyalty. First chance he gets he goes to a main rival.

Like a typical religious zealot he is as two faced as they come.

Mickey only cares that he is always right even when the evidence shows hes not.

That's a bit rich from a Tyrone fan about the man who broke through a century of sure and constant mediocrity to deliver Sam to Omagh not once but 3 times. (So what if Armagh did it first) .
Fergal Logan says he still thinks about losing the 95 final. The first win was 5 years after the bomb. Same town, different emotions.  What Harte did for Tyrone could never be repaid.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiW-Vxx_jrk


At the end of the day, Harte is only human. What did you expect in him after he left Tyrone ? It's not a religion. Catch yourself on.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 21, 2023, 11:49:02 AM
Ulster Championship 2024,so many subplots... Looking forward to the draw. Donegal, Tyrone and Derry all on the one side of the draw or Derry / Tyrone kept apart to a potential final...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Itchy on September 21, 2023, 11:49:39 AM
Surely they have to be drawn together in the preliminary round of Ulster next year, its written in the stars! When is the draw anyway?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 21, 2023, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: laceer on September 21, 2023, 08:50:35 AMHarte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.

This is 100% spot on. Mickey convinced many of player to commit to tyrone out of loyalty. First chance he gets he goes to a main rival.

Like a typical religious zealot he is as two faced as they come.

Mickey only cares that he is always right even when the evidence shows hes not.

Using one of the reasons Tyrone landed 3 All Irelands is a strange stick to beat the man with! You should be applauding the man for this.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: GTP on September 21, 2023, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 11:44:52 AMHow many provincial titles would this Derry team have won if they were in Leinster? Strange to use that sort of logic to try to portray Derry as superior to Louth.


And how many All Ireland wins would Tyrone have without Mickey Harte's management?

On the assumption your reference was to Louth being bigger and better than Derry because of their three All Irelands. I have simply pointed out that on the basis of this season Derry out performed them in every competition in which both sides competed. Most people would regard that as indicating Derry are currently a better team than Louth. But if you genuinely believe three All Irelands, the last of which was in 1957 are more relevant you are perfectly entitled to that opinion.
Or if you are discussing the 3 Tyrone All Irelands won under Mickey Harte you can correct me on my assumptions.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 21, 2023, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: laceer on September 21, 2023, 08:50:35 AMHarte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.

This is 100% spot on. Mickey convinced many of player to commit to tyrone out of loyalty. First chance he gets he goes to a main rival.

Like a typical religious zealot he is as two faced as they come.

Mickey only cares that he is always right even when the evidence shows hes not.

Using one of the reasons Tyrone landed 3 All Irelands is a strange stick to beat the man with! You should be applauding the man for this.


It is a simple point of pratice what you preach. No point in talking about loyalty etc etc and then go and do the opposite.

Bit like practicing turn the other cheek and forgiveness etc then hold a bitter grudge against a county board getting rid of you when your Contract was up.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 21, 2023, 01:43:51 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 21, 2023, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 10:22:46 AM
Quote from: laceer on September 21, 2023, 08:50:35 AMHarte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.

This is 100% spot on. Mickey convinced many of player to commit to tyrone out of loyalty. First chance he gets he goes to a main rival.

Like a typical religious zealot he is as two faced as they come.

Mickey only cares that he is always right even when the evidence shows hes not.

Using one of the reasons Tyrone landed 3 All Irelands is a strange stick to beat the man with! You should be applauding the man for this.


It is a simple point of pratice what you preach. No point in talking about loyalty etc etc and then go and do the opposite.

Bit like practicing turn the other cheek and forgiveness etc then hold a bitter grudge against a county board getting rid of you when your Contract was up.


For someone who ates the alter rails, Mickey does love to hold a grudge. Ask RTE.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NormPeterson on September 21, 2023, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on September 21, 2023, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.


As I said before, Tyronies upset show there entitlement almost in every post. Derry are better, your entitlement can't allow you see it. Derry are close, Harte knows it, your entitled mind set prevents you from knowing it. I hope Derry draw Tyrone so we illustrate once again we have a better team.

If Eamonn Coleman took over the reigns in Tyrone when they were a coming team I don't think you would be showing your entitlement if it annoyed you a bit. It's natural. The rivalries are what make the GAA, Tyrone and Derry will always have a healthy disdain. I don't think it sits that well in either county tbh. Derry are a better team than Tyrone right now but I would be stunned if Harte gets them over the line for the big one.

That isn't really an equal comparison as Eamonn Coleman's father was from Ardboe, Tyrone so he could have gotten away with managing them. Although I think he still hated the Tyrone football team.
Also former Derry manager Paddy Crozier also had a Tyrone father, from Moortown.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NormPeterson on September 21, 2023, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.

Louth won All Ireland's in 1910, 1912 and 1957. Winning All Ireland's 100 years ago shouldn't even be compared to winning them now. Football is a different game, it is much more competitive and there are far more games.
It is like saying Antrim are more successful because they have more Ulster's than Derry. Most of their titles came over 100 years ago and in one occasion they were awarded the title because they were the only team who entered. You can't seriously claim winning an Ulster title in 1912 is the same as winning one now?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NormPeterson on September 21, 2023, 02:14:30 PM
I personally don't care about having Harte as manager although I do worry he may be the wrong choice football wise. Tyrone people seem to be more worked up than Derry people. They have 4 All Ireland's and they still are steeped in bitterness, there is no pleasing them.
I can remember Harte giving a talk at my school, it was something about religion. I also remember him bringing Sam Maguire into the school as we had some Tyrone pupils. He could end up bringing Sam back to that school over the next few years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ClubScene13 on September 21, 2023, 03:10:20 PM
Quote from: NormPeterson on September 21, 2023, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on September 21, 2023, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 21, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 21, 2023, 12:40:24 AMTyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it ;D

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.


As I said before, Tyronies upset show there entitlement almost in every post. Derry are better, your entitlement can't allow you see it. Derry are close, Harte knows it, your entitled mind set prevents you from knowing it. I hope Derry draw Tyrone so we illustrate once again we have a better team.

If Eamonn Coleman took over the reigns in Tyrone when they were a coming team I don't think you would be showing your entitlement if it annoyed you a bit. It's natural. The rivalries are what make the GAA, Tyrone and Derry will always have a healthy disdain. I don't think it sits that well in either county tbh. Derry are a better team than Tyrone right now but I would be stunned if Harte gets them over the line for the big one.

That isn't really an equal comparison as Eamonn Coleman's father was from Ardboe, Tyrone so he could have gotten away with managing them. Although I think he still hated the Tyrone football team.
Also former Derry manager Paddy Crozier also had a Tyrone father, from Moortown.

Forgive me I couldn't think of a better comparison from the list of Derry All Ireland winning managers....
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shawshank on September 21, 2023, 03:26:23 PM
The entitlement is strong in this one
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 21, 2023, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: NormPeterson on September 21, 2023, 02:14:30 PMI personally don't care about having Harte as manager although I do worry he may be the wrong choice football wise. Tyrone people seem to be more worked up than Derry people. They have 4 All Ireland's and they still are steeped in bitterness, there is no pleasing them.
I can remember Harte giving a talk at my school, it was something about religion. I also remember him bringing Sam Maguire into the school as we had some Tyrone pupils. He could end up bringing Sam back to that school over the next few years.
Wouldn't say worked up. I for one am enjoying watching Derry ones engage in some mental gymnastics. This appointment has already got off to a good start. 😂
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 21, 2023, 04:41:02 PM
I cant see the problem.
Outside of any obligation Mickey had to louth he can go where he likes
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2023, 04:44:34 PM
I honestly think it's as good an appointment as derry could have got. He may not bring them forward but I think he has as good a chance as anyone. I honestly believe a lot of defensive football he played with tyrone in later years was to do with the players they had at those times.

However I would say he really let Louth down.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: the goal was on on September 21, 2023, 05:21:05 PM
Definitely as good an appointment as they could have got once o rourke turned it down. When you seen what happened with donegal last year its actually a great appointment.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 21, 2023, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2023, 04:44:34 PMI honestly think it's as good an appointment as derry could have got. He may not bring them forward but I think he has as good a chance as anyone. I honestly believe a lot of defensive football he played with tyrone in later years was to do with the players they had at those times.

However I would say he really let Louth down.

The same players who tyrone won the all ireland with? Mickey wasted a huge amount of talent with defensive football sparky, mccurry etc
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2023, 05:39:03 PM
I think he'd a big part in that AI tbh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 21, 2023, 05:44:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2023, 05:39:03 PMI think he'd a big part in that AI tbh.


Their form since would suggest so.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 22, 2023, 09:12:31 AM
Do you credit McKenna and McRory with the 2003 win in the same way?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 09:25:01 AM
Yes. Harte had 2 others on top of it too and the way his successors are going I think that's highly unlikely they will repeat that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: NAG1 on September 22, 2023, 09:28:56 AM
At what point are we looking to P Tally's influence during Mickey's AI wins?

I just don't get this from Derry at all, weird in the extreme.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 22, 2023, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 22, 2023, 09:28:56 AMAt what point are we looking to P Tally's influence during Mickey's AI wins?

I just don't get this from Derry at all, weird in the extreme.

Once you scratch the surface you can see that between 03-08 there was a combination of p tally and tony Donnelly in tyrone backroom team. Once those lads left so did tyrones AIs.

P left in 2004 after a fallout with mickey and tony left in 2012.

Seems they were the main tactical brains behind the scenes.

Its easier to take a down and out team in division 4 and instill some confidence and structre and get promoted rather than take a top end team to an AI against similarly strong opposition.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 22, 2023, 11:39:14 AM
Harte gets credit for the 3 All Irelands but no word of the 3 or 4 he left on the table. He had the greatest generation of footballers Tyrone ever produced and won only 3 all Irelands with them. Kerry who Tyrone were far better than won 5 between 2000 - 09.

Tyrone won those All Ireland's in spite of him, not because of him.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: clarshack on September 22, 2023, 12:16:55 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 22, 2023, 11:39:14 AMHarte gets credit for the 3 All Irelands but no word of the 3 or 4 he left on the table. He had the greatest generation of footballers Tyrone ever produced and won only 3 all Irelands with them. Kerry who Tyrone were far better than won 5 between 2000 - 09.

Tyrone won those All Ireland's in spite of him, not because of him.

For me 2010 was the one that was left behind the most.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 22, 2023, 11:39:14 AMHarte gets credit for the 3 All Irelands but no word of the 3 or 4 he left on the table. He had the greatest generation of footballers Tyrone ever produced and won only 3 all Irelands with them. Kerry who Tyrone were far better than won 5 between 2000 - 09.

Tyrone won those All Ireland's in spite of him, not because of him.

Blinded by your dislike of the man. That bit in bold is absolute nonsense.

2010 yes you should have been closer. You did not throw 3 or 4 AIs away in that time.

Won only 3 AIs - sure before him you had none. Only 3 AIs :o
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 12:35:27 PM
Strange folk across the county border, very very hard pleased
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 22, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 12:35:27 PMStrange folk across the county border, very very hard pleased

Lets see how derry do with him and how they feel after the 3 year period.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 01:36:35 PM
He may be spent now - I guess we'll see - but he wasn't spent for most of his tenure at Tyrone.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 22, 2023, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 22, 2023, 11:39:14 AMHarte gets credit for the 3 All Irelands but no word of the 3 or 4 he left on the table. He had the greatest generation of footballers Tyrone ever produced and won only 3 all Irelands with them. Kerry who Tyrone were far better than won 5 between 2000 - 09.

Tyrone won those All Ireland's in spite of him, not because of him.

Blinded by your dislike of the man. That bit in bold is absolute nonsense.

2010 yes you should have been closer. You did not throw 3 or 4 AIs away in that time.

Won only 3 AIs - sure before him you had none. Only 3 AIs :o


And when you call him out on such nonsense he'll come back with more.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: bennydorano on September 22, 2023, 01:47:50 PM
The revisionism is a joke. The buck stops with the Managers - end of, good or bad, N2s can getaway in the smoke a bit, getting the plaudits for successes and no blame for the failures. Can remember the same arguments being trotted out for Joe Kernan & Paul Grimley.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 22, 2023, 01:56:41 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 22, 2023, 11:39:14 AMHarte gets credit for the 3 All Irelands but no word of the 3 or 4 he left on the table. He had the greatest generation of footballers Tyrone ever produced and won only 3 all Irelands with them. Kerry who Tyrone were far better than won 5 between 2000 - 09.

Tyrone won those All Ireland's in spite of him, not because of him.

This just isn't credible. Mickey was indeed fortunate that a great generation of players came along (to be honest his record as minor manager was very mixed until they arrived and he was perhaps lucky still to be in that job at that point) but he was also absolutely key in nurturing those players and ensuring Tyrone got so many of them through from successful minor teams to senior success. They believed in him and were extremely well prepared. The 2005 team was absolutely superb and Mickey as manager and leader was absolutely fundamental, you can't seriously suggest otherwise. I don't think you can credibly claim either he left loads of titles behind. 2004 wasn't realistic given what happened. The injuries in 2006 would have finished any team and the legacy of that meant 2007 was very unlikely too.

That takes us too his greatest achievement, building a team in 2008 which didn't have all the stars of previous years but was more than the sum of its parts. Mickey again fundamental. Funnily enough it was also the start of his decline. Rather than develop that team he tried to go back to the returning stalwarts and Tyrone were never as good. 2009 and 2010 were definitely there for the taking but Tyrone went backwards from 2008. He subsequently failed to make the most of strong under age teams and went down the road of trying to out do McGuinness with a defensive style his team never perfected, ending up with a team that was micro managed and scared to deviate from the script. 2021 saw a team released from the shackles and playing with freedom.

He was the perfect charismatic figure to lift an underachieving county like Louth and the gig got Louth up a couple of leagues and gave Mickey's reputation a nice boost, but I didn't see any evidence that his style had evolved. I can't see him developing Derry much there either, best hope is that his leadership and experience is able to knock them on a level or two on the big days.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 22, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 12:35:27 PMStrange folk across the county border, very very hard pleased

Lets see how derry do with him and how they feel after the 3 year period.

Let's, but I find it hard to process you boys belittling and hating on the man who delivered you 3, yes 3 All Ireland titles! Not wise
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 03:01:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 22, 2023, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2023, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 22, 2023, 11:39:14 AMHarte gets credit for the 3 All Irelands but no word of the 3 or 4 he left on the table. He had the greatest generation of footballers Tyrone ever produced and won only 3 all Irelands with them. Kerry who Tyrone were far better than won 5 between 2000 - 09.

Tyrone won those All Ireland's in spite of him, not because of him.

Blinded by your dislike of the man. That bit in bold is absolute nonsense.

2010 yes you should have been closer. You did not throw 3 or 4 AIs away in that time.

Won only 3 AIs - sure before him you had none. Only 3 AIs :o


And when you call him out on such nonsense he'll come back with more.

I know he's generally a wum but I think he actually believes that.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 22, 2023, 04:36:47 PM
Im not sure Mickey can develop the players that Derry had last couple of years
But i think he can and will expand the panel and develop those players that appeared to be struggling with RGs approach.
Mickey wont alienate players and given, that he will have little or no bias to particular players , I  think he has the profile and experience to develop the squad .
Of course these things can and often do go pear shaped . But in my opinion he is the best man for the job. 

He may well be there for the money.
Or the Glory , or to stick it to tyrone. But if he delivers i don't care.
And honestly i don't think he is there for the money or to stick it to Tyrone
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 22, 2023, 06:10:09 PM
From no senior All Ireland in their history to winning three All Ireland titles in the space of 6 years is surely legendary status in the eyes of majority Tyrone heads regardless if Mickey Harte overstayed with them after that success. He also won All Ireland titles for Tyrone in 1998 (Minors) 2000,2001 (U21) so a total of 6 All Ireland titles in the space of a decade.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on September 22, 2023, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on September 22, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 22, 2023, 12:35:27 PMStrange folk across the county border, very very hard pleased

Lets see how derry do with him and how they feel after the 3 year period.

Let's, but I find it hard to process you boys belittling and hating on the man who delivered you 3, yes 3 All Ireland titles! Not wise

For myself it was the last number of years before he left tyrone that he started to annoy me. His refusal to change his approach and his arrogance done it for me, you only have to read a few of the ex players quotes to see they weren't too happy with Harte.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2023, 06:49:34 AM
Hope Mickey does well but he has his work cut out with them hoors.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 23, 2023, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 23, 2023, 06:49:34 AMHope Mickey does well but he has his work cut out with them hoors.
He needs to find a few younger players and fast track them. He'll be working on their mindset. He may be able to pull it off.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on September 23, 2023, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 23, 2023, 03:59:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 23, 2023, 06:49:34 AMHope Mickey does well but he has his work cut out with them hoors.
He needs to find a few younger players and fast track them. He'll be working on their mindset. He may be able to pull it off.

Shouldn't be that hard to find with Derry U17s winning the 2020 and this years All-Ireland title although this year group will need plenty of strength and conditioning work before making the step up to senior level.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PM
Mickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2023, 04:58:46 PM
If he gets E Bradley and, J Doherty back it be a big plus, if he can get C McGrogan to come also. Few other players along with a No. Of U-20, few of the better lads weren't on the panel or left very early last year. If Big Brown had been back in the country to bolster the full forward spot, I been more confident. As it is, Derry need to find 2 forwards for next year.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2023, 10:50:49 PM
Looking forward til the McKenna Cup already.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: trailer on September 25, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PMMickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Mickey has zero interest in nurturing talent. He's there for what?... max 3 years, probably less is it goes badly. The man is 71. It's a pay day he's looking for. He won't have time to let young lads find their feet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: seafoid on September 25, 2023, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 25, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PMMickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Mickey has zero interest in nurturing talent. He's there for what?... max 3 years, probably less is it goes badly. The man is 71. It's a pay day he's looking for. He won't have time to let young lads find their feet.

Quote from: trailer on September 25, 2023, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on September 23, 2023, 04:32:06 PMMickey does have a good record of nurturing young Talent. And Derry does have some potential in that.
There are a few young lads already training with the squad but not breaking through. Also i expect mickey to enlarge the Squad and there are  a few that wouldn't play for Gallagher that will be hopefully be making themselves available.
I am quite optimistic really.

Mickey has zero interest in nurturing talent. He's there for what?... max 3 years, probably less is it goes badly. The man is 71. It's a pay day he's looking for. He won't have time to let young lads find their feet.

that is a subjective opinion presented as an objective statement. Derry will have someone else responsible for talent development anyway
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on September 25, 2023, 01:29:54 PM
It will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on September 25, 2023, 01:55:55 PM
Louth, Tipp, Waterford and Laois still looking?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 25, 2023, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 25, 2023, 01:29:54 PMIt will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.

He'll hardly do a Gallagher on it whereby he wouldn't allow Lachlann Murray play for Derry U20s in their knock out tie and instead played him for two minutes for the seniors against Fermanagh.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on September 26, 2023, 08:09:44 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 25, 2023, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 25, 2023, 01:29:54 PMIt will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.

He'll hardly do a Gallagher on it whereby he wouldn't allow Lachlann Murray play for Derry U20s in their knock out tie and instead played him for two minutes for the seniors against Fermanagh.

I'd expect Harte to be fairer than that. Will have the ability to see the bigger picture and the importance of younger players playing with their own age group.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: JoG2 on September 26, 2023, 08:28:30 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 25, 2023, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on September 25, 2023, 01:29:54 PMIt will be interesting to see if Derry use more of the lads in the squad under Harte compared to Gallagher.
Surely there will be a change in approach in terms of Derry's use of the subs bench.

There's also the possibility of getting lads who were outside the panel previously to join up.
However given his previous form with Tyrone it's not like there will be a mad rush of lads bursting down the door to sign up especially if you are a forward given how many negative reports of what playing under him is like.

I really can't see Harte being very concerned with long-term development of youth given he's unlikely to see any benefit from it. That's pretty standard with outside managers in all sports, nevermind one in his 70s.

He'll hardly do a Gallagher on it whereby he wouldn't allow Lachlann Murray play for Derry U20s in their knock out tie and instead played him for two minutes for the seniors against Fermanagh.

Football is absolutely ruthless at county level, Lachlan has 2 x Ulster Senior winners medals at home.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: imtommygunn on September 26, 2023, 08:47:39 AM
Gallagher obviously did wonders for Derry on a football level but that and not giving Conor Glass / Ethan Doherty rests after Glen's run were mistakes IMO. Harte wouldn't do that I would think.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyronefan on October 02, 2023, 07:57:02 PM
Ger Brennan new Louth Manager.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: tyrone08 on October 02, 2023, 08:00:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2023, 08:47:39 AMGallagher obviously did wonders for Derry on a football level but that and not giving Conor Glass / Ethan Doherty rests after Glen's run were mistakes IMO. Harte wouldn't do that I would think.

Not sure about. This is the mickey who set put each year with nearly a full strength squad in jan to win every McKenna cup. When successful teams were resting players and developing squad depth mickey was at it full pelt.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: rodney trotter on October 02, 2023, 08:20:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 26, 2023, 08:47:39 AMGallagher obviously did wonders for Derry on a football level but that and not giving Conor Glass / Ethan Doherty rests after Glen's run were mistakes IMO. Harte wouldn't do that I would think.

Gallagher was always flogging players. Part of the reason him and McGuiness fell out. He wanted the older players back very early. Then when he became Donegal manager it was the same.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 02, 2023, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: tyronefan on October 02, 2023, 07:57:02 PMGer Brennan new Louth Manager.
Be interesting to see how he does, was linked to a number of inter county teams the last few years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Mike Tyson on October 03, 2023, 07:37:04 PM
Ciaran Meenagh in with Down & Laverty.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: J70 on October 05, 2023, 05:16:48 PM
McGuinness is starting his second spell with a seven day training camp in December.

The cash for the 80K cost has apparently been already secured.

Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 06, 2023, 11:19:32 PM
Dublin GAA have announced that Dessie Farrell will remain as their senior football manager until the end of the 2025 season.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on October 17, 2023, 11:00:41 AM
Peter Keane former Kerry Manager in the frame to be the next Tipperary Boss ! He has won the All-Ireland Junior Club Football Championship with his Club St Mary`s and 3 in a row All Ireland Minor with Kerry as Manager . Was Kerry Senior Manager between 2019 and 2021 , beaten by Dublin in the 2019 All Ireland Final . Involved with Killarney Legion this year where then went as far as the semi final of the Kerry Intermediate Championship .
Yet to be ratified by the Tipp County Board it will be an exciting appointment if it happens . Will have a decent amount of the successful Tipp Minor/Under 21 Teams from 2011 to 2015 to work with !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 19, 2023, 10:56:22 AM
Dessie Dolan reappointed in Westmeath.
Meanwhile not a single Club has made a nomination for the Waterford football post.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: twohands!!! on October 19, 2023, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 19, 2023, 10:56:22 AMDessie Dolan reappointed in Westmeath.
Meanwhile not a single Club has made a nomination for the Waterford football post.

Waterford's attitude to football versus hurling has always been a bit baffling to me. So many in the county seem to have the attitude that bothering with football is beneath them because they are a very serious hurling county - godforbid that you point out that in hurling all they've been doing for most of their history is making up the numbers in terms of the top table of hurling. I remember talking to a lad who was playing for the Waterford footballers at a wedding years back and he was bemoaning the number of club football players who had no interest whatsoever in lining out for the county.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: skeog on October 19, 2023, 07:56:27 PM
Justin mc Nulty MLA new Laois manager cannot be much going on in Stormont.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 20, 2023, 12:28:19 AM
Quote from: skeog on October 19, 2023, 07:56:27 PMJustin mc Nulty MLA new Laois manager cannot be much going on in Stormont.

A return for him https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/1019/1411856-mcnulty-to-return-as-laois-manager/
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AM
How could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 20, 2023, 09:02:45 AM
Expecting Stormont to be abolished?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

He'll have to stand down from politics. If he doesn't I'm sure the people in his constituency will be asking big questions!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armagh18 on October 20, 2023, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

He'll have to stand down from politics. If he doesn't I'm sure the people in his constituency will be asking big questions!
Yeah they hate GAA in South Armagh
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kidder81 on October 20, 2023, 12:27:59 PM
It must pay better than being an MLA
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: The Boy Wonder on October 20, 2023, 12:33:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 20, 2023, 12:28:19 AM
Quote from: skeog on October 19, 2023, 07:56:27 PMJustin mc Nulty MLA new Laois manager cannot be much going on in Stormont.

A return for him https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/1019/1411856-mcnulty-to-return-as-laois-manager/

Mark Carruthers raised this issue on The View, BBC1 NI, last night - he asked an SDLP colleague of Justin his opinion.

It is of the utmost importance that Justin's role as an MLA does not detract from his job as Laois manager  ;)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: jcpen on October 20, 2023, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: the_daddy on October 20, 2023, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

He'll have to stand down from politics. If he doesn't I'm sure the people in his constituency will be asking big questions!

John O'Mahoney was able to do it and there's hardly the same level of pressure in Laois as there was in Mayo
TBF Laois have won as many All Ireland's as Mayo have in the past 70 years.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Tubberman on October 20, 2023, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: the_daddy on October 20, 2023, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

He'll have to stand down from politics. If he doesn't I'm sure the people in his constituency will be asking big questions!

John O'Mahoney was able to do it and there's hardly the same level of pressure in Laois as there was in Mayo

Which culminated in championship defeats to Sligo and Longford in 2010.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Orior on October 20, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

Consider wee Jeffrey.

He is:
- an Orangeman
- Leader of the DUP
- An MP
- Member of the Privy Council of the United Kingdom
- Leader of the DUP in the Westminister
- Westminister Ambassador for some African country
- King of the Land of Smug
- Smug-look playboy of the Year

He does not manage any gaelic teams but how does he ever get time to watch his gay porn movies?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 20, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

Consider wee Jeffrey.

He is:
- an Orangeman
- Leader of the DUP
- An MP
- Member of the Privy Council of the United Kingdom
- Leader of the DUP in the Westminister
- Westminister Ambassador for some African country
- King of the Land of Smug
- Smug-look playboy of the Year

He does not manage any gaelic teams but how does he ever get time to watch his gay porn movies?

The Daniel O'Donnell lookalike gig takes up quite a bit of time also
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: RedHand88 on October 20, 2023, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on October 20, 2023, 12:27:59 PMIt must pay better than being an MLA

Ha! Both come with a broad expenses package anyway that's for sure  ;D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 20, 2023, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 20, 2023, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: Brendan on October 20, 2023, 08:28:14 AMHow could McNulty ever find the time to be an inter County manager as a full time MLA...

He'll have to stand down from politics. If he doesn't I'm sure the people in his constituency will be asking big questions!
Yeah they hate GAA in South Armagh

Do they love Laois GAA?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 20, 2023, 08:50:16 PM
Sure he do it fine, DUP triple jobbed for years, besides they hardly breaking a sweat outsude stormont this weather!
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on October 20, 2023, 09:54:11 PM

Why would it be any different from anyone else juggling county management with working full time
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:32:38 PM
County management is a full time gig, he'll be in Laois more than Armagh. It will prove the point that politicians do SFA.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Kidder81 on October 20, 2023, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 20, 2023, 09:54:11 PMWhy would it be any different from anyone else juggling county management with working full time

Being an MLA, when they are actually in Stormont, isnt a 9-5pm job
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Armagh18 on October 21, 2023, 07:21:30 AM
Quote from: Kidder81 on October 20, 2023, 10:57:59 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 20, 2023, 09:54:11 PMWhy would it be any different from anyone else juggling county management with working full time

Being an MLA, when they are actually in Stormont, isnt a 9-5pm job
More chance he wins Leinster than Stormont coming back anytime soon anyway
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: DuffleKing on October 21, 2023, 07:38:23 AM
Quote from: ck on October 20, 2023, 10:32:38 PMCounty management is a full time gig, he'll be in Laois more than Armagh. It will prove the point that politicians do SFA.


Fergal Logan, Brian Dooher, Andy McEntee, Dessie Farrell, etc.?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on October 23, 2023, 02:57:06 PM
Recently retired Kevin McLoughlin has joined the Sligo senior management team as a forward coach. A postion vacated by Colm McFadden who's part of the Donegal management now.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on October 23, 2023, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 23, 2023, 02:57:06 PMRecently retired Kevin McLoughlin has joined the Sligo senior management team as a forward coach. A postion vacated by Colm McFadden who's part of the Donegal management now.
A "forward coach" from "Mayo" :o  :o  ;D  :D
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on November 02, 2023, 11:52:38 AM
Tipperary have Paul Kelly , the former Naas and Thomas Davis Manager in on a 3 year term , he was involved with Wicklow and Oisin McConville last year . Former Baltinglass and Wicklow Player Hugh Kenny is Coach and Kelly has an impressive backroom Team including former Tipp Keeper Paul "Cracker" Fitzgerald !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 02, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on November 02, 2023, 11:52:38 AMTipperary have Paul Kelly , the former Naas and Thomas Davis Manager in on a 3 year term , he was involved with Wicklow and Oisin McConville last year . Former Baltinglass and Wicklow Player Hugh Kenny is Coach and Kelly has an impressive backroom Team including former Tipp Keeper Paul "Cracker" Fitzgerald !

Waterford footballers the last team to appoint a manager or did I miss their appointment?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Horse Box on November 03, 2023, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 02, 2023, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: Horse Box on November 02, 2023, 11:52:38 AMTipperary have Paul Kelly , the former Naas and Thomas Davis Manager in on a 3 year term , he was involved with Wicklow and Oisin McConville last year . Former Baltinglass and Wicklow Player Hugh Kenny is Coach and Kelly has an impressive backroom Team including former Tipp Keeper Paul "Cracker" Fitzgerald !

Waterford footballers the last team to appoint a manager or did I miss their appointment?

Yup !
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 09, 2023, 12:11:42 AM
The Waterford Footballers confirmed their new manager tonight. Former Meath Footballer Paul Shankey.  That all manager positions on this island filled.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on November 19, 2023, 04:30:50 PM
Mark McHugh won't be part of Roscommon senior football management team next season because of travel commitments. Odds on him joining up with Jim McGuinness at Donegal?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: StephenC on November 20, 2023, 08:54:48 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 19, 2023, 04:30:50 PMMark McHugh won't be part of Roscommon senior football management team next season because of travel commitments. Odds on him joining up with Jim McGuinness at Donegal?

Jim was quoted at the weekend that his backroom team is complete (there was speculation that with Kilcoo out, Karl Lacey might return), so it seems not.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 01, 2023, 06:59:23 PM
Jason Sherlock has joined the Westmeath senior footballers management team as a performance coach.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Gael85 on December 01, 2023, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 01, 2023, 06:59:23 PMJason Sherlock has joined the Westmeath senior footballers management team as a performance coach.

Jayo 12 months into this role.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 01, 2023, 07:39:56 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on December 01, 2023, 07:31:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 01, 2023, 06:59:23 PMJason Sherlock has joined the Westmeath senior footballers management team as a performance coach.

Jayo 12 months into this role.
fair enough. Retained another 12 months.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on December 01, 2023, 08:15:55 PM
Alan O Mara New York manager, ex Cavan goalkeeper.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on December 01, 2023, 08:45:17 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 01, 2023, 08:15:55 PMAlan O Mara New York manager, ex Cavan goalkeeper.

Same guy that shared a brave and honest account of his experience of depression and how alcohol began to worsen his mental health?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: mrdeeds on December 01, 2023, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 01, 2023, 08:45:17 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 01, 2023, 08:15:55 PMAlan O Mara New York manager, ex Cavan goalkeeper.

Same guy that shared a brave and honest account of his experience of depression and how alcohol began to worsen his mental health?

Yeah he had a book about his battle with depression alright.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: FermGael on December 31, 2023, 03:08:24 PM
Declan Bonner new Erne Gaels manager.
Probably the most high profile club manager in Fermanagh in my memory
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Brendan on December 31, 2023, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: FermGael on December 31, 2023, 03:08:24 PMDeclan Bonner new Erne Gaels manager.
Probably the most high profile club manager in Fermanagh in my memory

It's a wonder he'd work with a team in the 6 counties after what was said in the Ill fated Ulster campaign for Na Rossa
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Derryman forever on December 31, 2023, 10:27:24 PM
Quote from: Brendan on December 31, 2023, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: FermGael on December 31, 2023, 03:08:24 PMDeclan Bonner new Erne Gaels manager.
Probably the most high profile club manager in Fermanagh in my memory

It's a wonder he'd work with a team in the 6 counties after what was said in the Ill fated Ulster campaign for Na Rossa


What???
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2024, 01:51:55 PM
Jerome Stack has stepped down as St Brigids manager after two years in charge of the All-Ireland finalists. Former manager and resident Anthony Cunningham his expected replacement.

Anthony Cunningham confirmed as their new manager today (Friday)
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: shawshank on January 25, 2024, 02:08:25 PM
Quote from: Brendan on December 31, 2023, 05:22:25 PM
Quote from: FermGael on December 31, 2023, 03:08:24 PMDeclan Bonner new Erne Gaels manager.
Probably the most high profile club manager in Fermanagh in my memory

It's a wonder he'd work with a team in the 6 counties after what was said in the Ill fated Ulster campaign for Na Rossa

Well said
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 11:04:40 PM
Doubt Dooher have much time for Tyrone next year saying he appointed NI chief vet.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: Rossfan on March 07, 2024, 11:21:43 PM
Will he have more time as he'll  be in Head Office directing all his underlings?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: LC on March 08, 2024, 06:42:12 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 11:04:40 PMDoubt Dooher have much time for Tyrone next year saying he appointed NI chief vet.

Fair play to him, I see he already was the deputy so probably had a fair bit on his plate.

Not too often you would see an inter county manager operating at a very high level also in their professional career, obviously not in it for the mileage money.  The only similar example I can think of would be Pat Gilroy.
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: illdecide on March 08, 2024, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 11:04:40 PMDoubt Dooher have much time for Tyrone next year saying he appointed NI chief vet.

Ehh, hello. A Civil Servant and no time to themselves does not go together. That's why they join the Civil Service, they'll have all the time in the World to do their "Other Work"
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: yellowcard on March 08, 2024, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 08, 2024, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 11:04:40 PMDoubt Dooher have much time for Tyrone next year saying he appointed NI chief vet.

Ehh, hello. A Civil Servant and no time to themselves does not go together. That's why they join the Civil Service, they'll have all the time in the World to do their "Other Work"

Dooher is not a back office administrator who has little responsibility or accountability. He is the chief vet in the province and he didn't get that job by sitting on his hands and knees so I think that is unfair.

It's very unusual to see an intercounty manager who is not using the GAA as a career tool and both he and Logan deserve a lot of credit for that as it must be stressful and challenging trying to combine the two roles. You need not look any further than Logans recent health issues to realise the difficulties of combining a busy professional career with a county managers role. 
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: fearsiuil on March 08, 2024, 02:46:43 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 08, 2024, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 08, 2024, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 11:04:40 PMDoubt Dooher have much time for Tyrone next year saying he appointed NI chief vet.

Ehh, hello. A Civil Servant and no time to themselves does not go together. That's why they join the Civil Service, they'll have all the time in the World to do their "Other Work"

Dooher is not a back office administrator who has little responsibility or accountability. He is the chief vet in the province and he didn't get that job by sitting on his hands and knees so I think that is unfair.

It's very unusual to see an intercounty manager who is not using the GAA as a career tool and both he and Logan deserve a lot of credit for that as it must be stressful and challenging trying to combine the two roles. You need not look any further than Logans recent health issues to realise the difficulties of combining a busy professional career with a county managers role. 

Which province is that a mhac?
Title: Re: County Manager Merry go round
Post by: illdecide on March 08, 2024, 05:52:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 08, 2024, 12:01:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 08, 2024, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 11:04:40 PMDoubt Dooher have much time for Tyrone next year saying he appointed NI chief vet.

Ehh, hello. A Civil Servant and no time to themselves does not go together. That's why they join the Civil Service, they'll have all the time in the World to do their "Other Work"

Dooher is not a back office administrator who has little responsibility or accountability. He is the chief vet in the province and he didn't get that job by sitting on his hands and knees so I think that is unfair.

It's very unusual to see an intercounty manager who is not using the GAA as a career tool and both he and Logan deserve a lot of credit for that as it must be stressful and challenging trying to combine the two roles. You need not look any further than Logans recent health issues to realise the difficulties of combining a busy professional career with a county managers role. 

Fair enough, prob was a bit harsh there but still they get some time off and Flexi time etc. I'm sure he will have a team around him to delegate the workload too. I reckon he'd have time for calls etc during working hours