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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #330 on: December 08, 2018, 10:48:23 PM »
Good luck to Jimmy but boy are some of you lot getting carried away. This is a low level of soccer so he's certainly starting at basement level. I'd heard he was in for a few low level jobs in Scottish lower leagues but didn't get them. USA have more of a record at taking a punt on left field managers so this was probably his only route to a job. Hope it works for him but people need to be realistic.

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« Reply #331 on: December 09, 2018, 07:18:33 AM »
Would he not make as much going into the Mayo job etc, along with other menu stuff, or even joining the dubs back room team.

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« Reply #332 on: December 09, 2018, 01:02:24 PM »
That's what I would have thought - manage in Ireland, work with Sky and write a weekly article. Money is probably not the issue though.

I think though that he's commited to soccer on a full time basis and he wants to follow that through - to work with players on a daily basis.  This is how the soccer helps.  He is a very driven individual and to move to China and America is a big decision with family involved etc. Fair play to him.

I hope it works out and he gets what he wants out of it. I wish him well and I'd hope to see him back nearer home managing a soccer team!

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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #333 on: December 09, 2018, 02:17:25 PM »
If he hits in the USA - the financial gain long term will be enormous and it wouldn't be completely mad (if successful) to see an Irishman manage the USA National Soccer team, if he made a name for himself in the MLS2 or whatever this outfit league is called, it's not beyond realm of possibility he'll be at the MLS sooner than many think.

Jimmy has the head screwed on, Derry City/Dundalk....all these teams will always be there. He makes it in the USA he's set for life.

Steady on there

Do you know who this is? He's an Irishman who has been a USL coach for 4 years now - who has won the USL Championship for the last 2 years.




Nobody has a clue who he is - that's the point.

This is the United States - its not essential that you actually are the best at what you do as long as you have some sort of personality / PR / selling point.
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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #334 on: December 09, 2018, 02:18:27 PM »
He has a head start on a lot of successful managers. Mourhino, Sarri, Wenger? At least McGuiness has played and managed his sport at the highest level. Won't make him any more or less successful but he has, I think, all the attributes to be a top soccer coach.


There are a line of much more experienced people who have played at a decent level or higher that are queuing up for decent Managerial jobs. He is no more ahead of most of them. If anything he is behind them.

As I said - I hope it works out.  I expect him to have a fair rattle at it.

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« Reply #335 on: December 09, 2018, 09:24:02 PM »
Agreed. Would love to see him doing well, coming back and taking forest to the prem.

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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #336 on: December 09, 2018, 09:37:47 PM »


He'll need all the luck he can get. A lot of hot air been spoken here . There is no good soccer club in the world  going to take a punt on an unproven manager with no track record where the stakes are so high .

I suspect he'd have been far better off taking an Irish Soccer Club.

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« Reply #337 on: December 09, 2018, 11:44:11 PM »


He'll need all the luck he can get. A lot of hot air been spoken here . There is no good soccer club in the world  going to take a punt on an unproven manager with no track record where the stakes are so high .

I suspect he'd have been far better off taking an Irish Soccer Club.

Agree with this. I suspect his ego would not allow him seek a job in Ireland, realisticly would he even be offered one?
USA allows him try things out without any scrutiny. It's some upheaval for a young family too. He's putting all his chips on red!

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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #338 on: December 10, 2018, 07:52:53 AM »


He'll need all the luck he can get. A lot of hot air been spoken here . There is no good soccer club in the world  going to take a punt on an unproven manager with no track record where the stakes are so high .

I suspect he'd have been far better off taking an Irish Soccer Club.

Of course he wasn't getting a "top"  job. We all have to start somewhere in our careers. Soccer managers the world over have worked their way up the ladder. Go take a look at Martin O'Neill's path in management or Brendan Rodgers' or Alex Ferguson's. JMG will be a success or not due to his ability, not because he picked an Irish or British club instead of going to the States. He does not have the profile (yet) in soccer to do like Lampard or Gerrard or other top players before, to be able to walk into a bigger job, but that does not mean he will be any less
Successful long term.

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« Reply #339 on: December 10, 2018, 09:00:52 AM »
He has to start somewhere and fair play to him.
Wish him all the look in the world and hope he is a success.

But this is a risk and doesnt seem to be as lucrative as some posters seem to think.

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« Reply #340 on: December 11, 2018, 03:57:00 PM »
This is the United States - its not essential that you actually are the best at what you do as long as you have some sort of personality / PR / selling point.

And Jimmy's is what?

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« Reply #341 on: December 11, 2018, 04:15:45 PM »
If he hits in the USA - the financial gain long term will be enormous and it wouldn't be completely mad (if successful) to see an Irishman manage the USA National Soccer team, if he made a name for himself in the MLS2 or whatever this outfit league is called, it's not beyond realm of possibility he'll be at the MLS sooner than many think.

Jimmy has the head screwed on, Derry City/Dundalk....all these teams will always be there. He makes it in the USA he's set for life.

Steady on there

Do you know who this is? He's an Irishman who has been a USL coach for 4 years now - who has won the USL Championship for the last 2 years.




He has won it once as manager.

James O’Connor? 

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« Reply #342 on: December 11, 2018, 04:17:39 PM »
Yeah - I see he's up at the MLS level now with Orlando

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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #343 on: December 11, 2018, 07:24:00 PM »
If he hits in the USA - the financial gain long term will be enormous and it wouldn't be completely mad (if successful) to see an Irishman manage the USA National Soccer team, if he made a name for himself in the MLS2 or whatever this outfit league is called, it's not beyond realm of possibility he'll be at the MLS sooner than many think.

Jimmy has the head screwed on, Derry City/Dundalk....all these teams will always be there. He makes it in the USA he's set for life.

Steady on there

Do you know who this is? He's an Irishman who has been a USL coach for 4 years now - who has won the USL Championship for the last 2 years.




Nobody has a clue who he is - that's the point.

This is the United States - its not essential that you actually are the best at what you do as long as you have some sort of personality / PR / selling point.

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Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« Reply #344 on: December 11, 2018, 07:44:18 PM »
Will Jim have Maxi Curran as his no 2?