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Title: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 25, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
While the former two aren't starting just yet, the Junior championship throws in this evening week at 6.30pm as Mayo play Roscommon in MacHale Park.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 09:13:06 PM
Wonder they didn't make it 3 am on a Monday!!
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 25, 2018, 09:16:57 PM
While the former two aren't starting just yet, the Junior championship throws in this evening week at 6.30pm as Mayo play Roscommon in MacHale Park.
Minor Championship starts this evening week also Mayo v Leitrim in Machale park at 8pm. Galway v Roscommon in Tuam to be played Friday night 4th of May.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: MayoBuck on April 25, 2018, 11:22:17 PM
They must have fixed up the pitch in MacHale Park if 2 games are penciled in that close to the 13th May.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on April 25, 2018, 11:24:38 PM
They must have fixed up the pitch in MacHale Park if 2 games are penciled in that close to the 13th May.

Haha.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 11:39:21 PM
Winners of JFC game play Laythrum 9th May and the Final is FOUR DAYS later on 13th as curtain raiser to the SFC game.
Ros Minors play Galway 4th May,  Rhubarbs 10th May, Laythrum 23 June and Sligo 6 July.
U20s play Sligo 2 June.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: sligoman2 on April 26, 2018, 03:39:04 AM
So has the minor or u17 format changed? Is there a league format now?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on April 26, 2018, 04:53:14 AM
So has the minor or u17 format changed? Is there a league format now?

A championship.

Round robin format between the 5 Connacht counties.

Top 2 teams in the group play in the final.

B Competition

A:  Team 4th in table v Team 5th in table

Final: Team 3rd in table v Winners A

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: sligoman2 on April 27, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
So has the minor or u17 format changed? Is there a league format now?

A championship.

Round robin format between the 5 Connacht counties.

Top 2 teams in the group play in the final.



B Competition

A:  Team 4th in table v Team 5th in table

Final: Team 3rd in table v Winners A
I like it.. One and donM was/is unfair
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on April 27, 2018, 01:14:30 AM
So has the minor or u17 format changed? Is there a league format now?

A championship.

Round robin format between the 5 Connacht counties.

Top 2 teams in the group play in the final.



B Competition

A:  Team 4th in table v Team 5th in table

Final: Team 3rd in table v Winners A
I like it.. One and donM was/is unfair

Given the Connacht League has been down away with the season is significantly less forgiving in terms of meaningful games for minors under the new system.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 27, 2018, 08:55:04 AM
So has the minor or u17 format changed? Is there a league format now?

A championship.

Round robin format between the 5 Connacht counties.

Top 2 teams in the group play in the final.



B Competition

A:  Team 4th in table v Team 5th in table

Final: Team 3rd in table v Winners A
I like it.. One and donM was/is unfair
season is significantly less forgiving in terms of meaningful games for minors under the new system.

Do you get your incomprehensible posts from this lad
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/gobbledygook-generator.html
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on April 27, 2018, 06:19:12 PM
So has the minor or u17 format changed? Is there a league format now?

A championship.

Round robin format between the 5 Connacht counties.

Top 2 teams in the group play in the final.



B Competition

A:  Team 4th in table v Team 5th in table

Final: Team 3rd in table v Winners A
I like it.. One and donM was/is unfair
season is significantly less forgiving in terms of meaningful games for minors under the new system.

Do you get your incomprehensible posts from this lad
http://www.plainenglish.co.uk/gobbledygook-generator.html

I've never met a being whose self-worth is as hurt by someone using words with more than one syllable as you clearly are. It's sad.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 27, 2018, 09:01:31 PM
The silly childish retort is because you don't understand the word incomprehensible  ;D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 01, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
Roscommon have named a strong looking Junior team for tomorrow nights Quarter final. Haven't seen any Mayo team yet.

James Fetherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
Tadgh McKenna (Boyle)
Peter Domican (St Brigids)
Fergal Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Conor Hussey (Michael Glaveys)
Ultan Harney (Clann na nGael)
Ronan Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Padraig Kelly (St Brigids)
Shane Dowd (Creggs)
Ross Timothy (St Croans)
Henry Walsh (Kilbride)
Cathal Cregg (Western Gaels)
Hubert Darcy (Padraig Pearses)
Finbar Cregg (Western Gaels)

Subs

Aaron Brady (Elphin)
Aengus Lyons (Fuerty)
Aidan Dowd (Western Gaels)
Ciaran Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Darra Pettit (Clann na nGael)
Liam Cregg (Michael Glavey’s)
Richard Hughes (Roscommon Gaels)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 01, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
I’m glad to see Padraig Kelly involved. I was surprised he didn’t make the senior panel because he’s a brilliant club footballer and an excellent IC hurler too. I’d love him to preform well for the juniors and get onto the senior panel for the summer.

Cregger is one hell of a junior IC footballer to have..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 01, 2018, 07:24:23 PM
Interesting mixture of regular Seniors,  Senior panellists and 3 or 4 others.
IF we win who'll he put out v Laythrum bearing in mind the Final will be about 66 hours later?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 01, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
Interesting mixture of regular Seniors,  Senior panellists and 3 or 4 others.
IF we win who'll he put out v Laythrum bearing in mind the Final will be about 66 hours later?

The 2000 junior AI winning team.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: SLIGONIAN on May 01, 2018, 08:11:56 PM
Lads can you play intercounty u20 and senior in the same year, or are you blocked if you play senior, can someone post the rule, cannot find it anywhere. Thanks.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: MayoBuck on May 01, 2018, 08:26:36 PM
Lads can you play intercounty u20 and senior in the same year, or are you blocked if you play senior, can someone post the rule, cannot find it anywhere. Thanks.

You can't play senior and u20 championship in the same year. You could potentially play national league with the senior team and then move down to u20 before championship starts.

That's my understanding anyway.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 01, 2018, 08:30:20 PM
If you're U20s go out early can you then upgrade to Senior?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 01, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
If you're U20s go out early can you then upgrade to Senior?
Why wouldn’t you? They’d have to have a rule to expressly stop that happening.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on May 01, 2018, 08:48:35 PM
The rule is that a U-20 eligible player is prohibited from playing U-20 if he has been named on a senior championship panel of 26.

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 01, 2018, 08:58:07 PM
The rule is that a U-20 eligible player is prohibited from playing U-20 if he has been named on a senior championship panel of 26.
Rule 6/17 now states if he played in a Senior Championship game.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on May 01, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
The rule is that a U-20 eligible player is prohibited from playing U-20 if he has been named on a senior championship panel of 26.
Rule 6/17 now states if he played in a Senior Championship game.

Does it give a definition of "played"?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on May 01, 2018, 10:45:48 PM
The rule is that a U-20 eligible player is prohibited from playing U-20 if he has been named on a senior championship panel of 26.
Rule 6/17 now states if he played in a Senior Championship game.

Does it give a definition of "played"?


There doesn't seem to be a definition but it's fairly obvious what it means. I'm glad they've moved it from being named on a panel.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 02, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Galway play Roscommon Friday night in the 17's, is their another game on Friday?

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 02, 2018, 01:00:53 PM
Galway play Roscommon Friday night in the 17's, is their another game on Friday?
No as Mayo v Leitrim was brought forward to tonight.

Mayo Junior team for tonight

1. Chris McGlynn - Moy Davitts
2. Eoghan McGrath - Cill Chomain
3. James O’Dowd - Shrule/Glencorrib
4. Eddie Doran - Achill
5. James Dowd - Louisburgh
6. Barry Leonard - Lahardane
7. Cian Bourke - Ardnaree Sarsfields
8. Pete Gallagher - Achill
9. Sean Walsh - Kiltimagh
10. James Kelly - Belmullet
11. Conor Bohan - Shrule/Glencorrib
12. Brendan Carr - Ardagh(Captain)
13. Cormac Doohan - Ballaghaderreen
14. TJ Byrne - Kiltimagh
15. Darragh Joyce - Islandeady

16. Matthew Flanagan - Balla
17. Ciaran Boylan - Achill
18. Jason Forkan - Kiltimagh
19. Seamie Lally - Islandeady
20. Ronan Carolan - Parke/Keelogues/Crimlin
21. David Lydon - Kiltimagh
22. Liam Moran - Swinford
23. Keith Hopkins - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
24. Darragh Keavney - Kilmeena

And Minor team

1. Ronan Connolly - Ardnaree Sarsfields
2. Sean Holmes - Knockmore
3. Eoghan Mchale - Castlebar Mitchels
4. Aidan Cosgrove - Kiltimagh
5. Ruairi Keane - Mayo Gaels
6. Liam Og Horkan - Garrymore
7. Conor Dunleavy - Balla
8. Jack Carney - Kilmeena
9. Harry Burke - Claremorris
10. Frank Irwin - Ballina
11. Ultan O'Reilly - Castlebar Mitchels
12. Lee Traynor - Ardagh
13. Martin Ball  - Lousiburgh
14. Fionnan Ryan - Belmullet
15. Enda Hession - Garrymore(Captain)

16. Darragh Fallon - Claremorris
17. Luke Dawson - Westport
18. Paddy Heneghan - Castlebar Mitchels
19. Liam O'Donoghue - Kiltane
20. Ethan Henry - Mayo Gaels
21. Peter Timlin - Knockmore
22. Fergal Sweeney - The Neale
23. Evan Ivers - Belmullet
24. Ciaran Mylett - Castlebar Mitchels
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Crete Boom on May 02, 2018, 08:22:38 PM
Sean Boylan's son Ciaran scored a goal 5 minutes into injury time to get the win for the Mayo juniors over Roscommon! Mayo brought on Matt Flanagan and played him as a fly keeper to create the extra man leading to the move for the winning goal!!
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 02, 2018, 08:35:00 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 02, 2018, 08:44:05 PM
If a team with 10/12 of our real Senior panel can't bate a crowd from Mayo Junior and Inter club players it doesn't inspire much confidence for the Summer.
Conceding 2-15 to junior/Inter forwards!!!!
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Crete Boom on May 02, 2018, 08:51:12 PM
 Connacht Minor Championship Round 1
 Mayo 2-8 Leitrim 0-4 halftime
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 02, 2018, 08:59:13 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 02, 2018, 08:59:57 PM
If a team with 10/12 of our real Senior panel can't bate a crowd from Mayo Junior and Inter club players it doesn't inspire much confidence for the Summer.
Conceding 2-15 to junior/Inter forwards!!!!
Will 10/12 of that Roscommon team make the championship match day 26 this summer, surely a number of players will have played themselves out of that panel now after that result tonight?

Great result for Mayo they play leitrim next who beat them in the final of this competition last year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on May 02, 2018, 09:02:19 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 02, 2018, 09:09:33 PM
If a team with 10/12 of our real Senior panel can't bate a crowd from Mayo Junior and Inter club players it doesn't inspire much confidence for the Summer.
Conceding 2-15 to junior/Inter forwards!!!!
Will 10/12 of that Roscommon team make the championship match day 26 this summer, surely a number of players will have played themselves out of that panel now after that result tonight?

Great result for Mayo they play leitrim next who beat them in the final of this competition last year.
Featherstone Domican 2 Dalys Harney 2 Lennons C Cregg plus Walsh D'Arcy Timothy anyway.
Terrible result ?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 02, 2018, 09:15:59 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.

We didn’t even bother fielding a team in this competition for half a decade and when we did it was a reserve team of senior panelists.

It’s hard to overstate how little is thought of the junior grade not just in Roscommon but the whole country, the competition needs to be revamped to have any meaning. The players that played tonight got more worth from the challenge matches than the competition itself.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 02, 2018, 09:16:37 PM
Sean Boylan's son Ciaran scored a goal 5 minutes into injury time to get the win for the Mayo juniors over Roscommon! Mayo brought on Matt Flanagan and played him as a fly keeper to create the extra man leading to the move for the winning goal!!

Good win although that Boylan lad would need to do it in the last min of an AIF to make up for the sins of his father  ;)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on May 02, 2018, 09:22:59 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.

We didn’t even bother fielding a team in this competition for half a decade and when we did it was a reserve team of senior panelists.

It’s hard to overstate how little is thought of the junior grade not just in Roscommon but the whole country, the competition needs to be revamped to have any meaning. The players that played tonight got more worth from the challenge matches than the competition itself.

I know that, Mayo have shown very little interest in it either. But surely Rossie senior panellists should be beating Mayo non-senior panellists?
Regardless the best thing was Matty Flanagan coming on as sub goalie, playing as sweeper and creating overlap for winning injury time goal :D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Crete Boom on May 02, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
Connacht Minor Championship round 1
Full Time : Mayo 4-20 Leitrim 1-8
Enda Hession (2-5) and Fionnan Ryan (2-1) doing the damage for Mayo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 02, 2018, 09:47:40 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.

We didn’t even bother fielding a team in this competition for half a decade and when we did it was a reserve team of senior panelists.

It’s hard to overstate how little is thought of the junior grade not just in Roscommon but the whole country, the competition needs to be revamped to have any meaning. The players that played tonight got more worth from the challenge matches than the competition itself.
Not what i recall, it was mostly U21s or former senior players that made up past Roscommon Junior teams. This current Roscommon junior team as rosfan said had 10 to 12 senior panelists and have the senior management over them and lets be honest Roscommon should be beating that Mayo junior team tonight by a bit to spare instead of losing to them.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 02, 2018, 10:09:47 PM

And Minor team

1. Ronan Connolly - Ardnaree Sarsfields
2. Sean Holmes - Knockmore
3. Eoghan Mchale - Castlebar Mitchels
4. Aidan Cosgrove - Kiltimagh
5. Ruairi Keane - Mayo Gaels
6. Liam Og Horkan - Garrymore
7. Conor Dunleavy - Balla
8. Jack Carney - Kilmeena
9. Harry Burke - Claremorris
10. Frank Irwin - Ballina
11. Ultan O'Reilly - Castlebar Mitchels
12. Lee Traynor - Ardagh
13. Martin Ball  - Lousiburgh
14. Fionnan Ryan - Belmullet
15. Enda Hession - Garrymore(Captain)

16. Darragh Fallon - Claremorris
17. Luke Dawson - Westport
18. Paddy Heneghan - Castlebar Mitchels
19. Liam O'Donoghue - Kiltane
20. Ethan Henry - Mayo Gaels
21. Peter Timlin - Knockmore
22. Fergal Sweeney - The Neale
23. Evan Ivers - Belmullet
24. Ciaran Mylett - Castlebar Mitchels

Good spread of clubs represented, only Mitchells and Garrymore with two each. Plenty of junior clubs also
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 02, 2018, 10:14:01 PM
Hear Ultan Harney got injured again.
Hopefully he'll be ok.
Tonight is a right fcuk up by Syfīn's hero who obviously thought the JFC was worth something.
I would have thought we'd have used it to give U20s a game seeing as there's no Hastings this year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 02, 2018, 10:21:53 PM
Hear Ultan Harney got injured again.
Hopefully he'll be ok.
Tonight is a right fcuk up by Syfīn's hero who obviously thought the JFC was worth something.
I would have thought we'd have used it to give U20s a game seeing as there's no Hastings this year.

You seem much more antimated about a result in a competition we don’t even usually compete in than you did about many of the wins the senior team have had in the last 12 months. McStay losing seems to bring you more joy than Roscommon winning.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Crete Boom on May 02, 2018, 11:24:05 PM
Hear Ultan Harney got injured again.
Hopefully he'll be ok.
Tonight is a right fcuk up by Syfīn's hero who obviously thought the JFC was worth something.
I would have thought we'd have used it to give U20s a game seeing as there's no Hastings this year.

Jeez that fella has no luck!!!
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 12:51:57 AM
What do the Mayo lads make of this behaviour by Prenty and the Mayo minor management?

https://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/gaelic-games/311159/leitrim-manager-blasts-mayo-and-connacht-council-over-u17-game.html#.Wuo-A_06PI4.twitter

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And the Leitrim manager was particularly annoyed with a reported remark from the Mayo management team when they were approached to see if an accommodation could be reached - "Then Mayo were approached to see if they would do us a favour and seemingly the comment that came back from the Mayo management was that they were just using it as a training session, a warm-up to the Roscommon game next week."

Jesus.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 03, 2018, 07:26:29 AM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie find someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on May 03, 2018, 09:08:46 AM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie fond someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches

Laughable! It's hardly up to the Mayo manager to accommodate Leitrim lads who want to go to New York.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 03, 2018, 10:10:25 AM
A very comfortable win for Mayo u17's.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 03, 2018, 11:39:03 AM
Who is favourite for the U-17 this year anyway?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 03, 2018, 11:39:38 AM
Interesting mixture of regular Seniors,  Senior panellists and 3 or 4 others.
IF we win who'll he put out v Laythrum bearing in mind the Final will be about 66 hours later?

Ye don't have the selection headache now.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 03, 2018, 12:55:06 PM
Who is favourite for the U-17 this year anyway?
Galway I'd imagine.
Half of it won the Ted Webb last year.
Well probably concentrate on the B Competition .
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 03, 2018, 12:56:29 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.
24 hours earlier he told stolen-sheep that he had never seen such a strong Junior team😆
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 03, 2018, 01:51:44 PM
Who is favourite for the U-17 this year anyway?
Galway. Last September at U-16 level Galway North won the Ted Webb shield and Galway City west won the Ted Webb cup those two teams combine now.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie find someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches

An incredibly ignorant response to an issue that was raised as early as January. Explains the absolutely arrogant attitude of the Mayo minor management. No shame.

What can a 16 year old do if his family is going on a probably long-planned holiday to New York? Stay behind alone to play a league match? The lack of contrition by the two Mayo supporters here really is surprising in its brazenness.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: whitey on May 03, 2018, 02:31:03 PM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie find someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches

An incredibly ignorant response to an issue that was raised as early as January. Explains the absolutely arrogant attitude of the Mayo minor management. No shame.

What can a 16 year old do if his family is going on a probably long-planned holiday to New York? Stay behind alone to play a league match? The lack of contrition by the two Mayo supporters here really is surprising in its brazenness.

Ive been to New York 3 times when Mayo have been out, and the vast majority of supporters come out on the Thursday and Friday.  Why cant the Leitrim people just have come out when normal people come out?. Theres more to this than meets the eye! (And I hope the truant officer doesnt hear about this)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on May 03, 2018, 03:28:00 PM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie find someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches

An incredibly ignorant response to an issue that was raised as early as January. Explains the absolutely arrogant attitude of the Mayo minor management. No shame.

What can a 16 year old do if his family is going on a probably long-planned holiday to New York? Stay behind alone to play a league match? The lack of contrition by the two Mayo supporters here really is surprising in its brazenness.

I assume you're bored and taking the p*ss.
Why on earth would the Mayo management concern themselves with the holiday plans of a 16 year old in Leitrim? That's for the 16 year old and his parents to sort out with Leitrim management, not the fcking Mayo management.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 03:39:36 PM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie find someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches

An incredibly ignorant response to an issue that was raised as early as January. Explains the absolutely arrogant attitude of the Mayo minor management. No shame.

What can a 16 year old do if his family is going on a probably long-planned holiday to New York? Stay behind alone to play a league match? The lack of contrition by the two Mayo supporters here really is surprising in its brazenness.

I assume you're bored and taking the p*ss.
Why on earth would the Mayo management concern themselves with the holiday plans of a 16 year old in Leitrim? That's for the 16 year old and his parents to sort out with Leitrim management, not the fcking Mayo management.

There is a seven week break after next week’s round of games. Why couldn’t it have been reschedule, Tudderman? You shouldn’t dig this hole any deeper than you already have.

Are Mayo that afraid of Roscommon that they weren’t willing to give up this ‘training session’?

Or, as seems to be the wont of Mayo GAA officials, did they look to seize an advantage over an already likely weaker weaker opponent?

Developmental grade my arse. More like win at all costs.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 03, 2018, 03:43:23 PM
Of course Mayo are afraid of Roscommon. Any county that can afford to have the likes of Cregger on a junior team should be feared at any level.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on May 03, 2018, 04:04:07 PM
You’re some clown

I was expecting to read that five lads were missing because they had exams or were helping lassie find someone down a well, they were going on holidays.
Seen as I doubt you ever kicked a football I’ll explain that this has always been the choice of underage footballers, holidays v matches

An incredibly ignorant response to an issue that was raised as early as January. Explains the absolutely arrogant attitude of the Mayo minor management. No shame.

What can a 16 year old do if his family is going on a probably long-planned holiday to New York? Stay behind alone to play a league match? The lack of contrition by the two Mayo supporters here really is surprising in its brazenness.

I assume you're bored and taking the p*ss.
Why on earth would the Mayo management concern themselves with the holiday plans of a 16 year old in Leitrim? That's for the 16 year old and his parents to sort out with Leitrim management, not the fcking Mayo management.

There is a seven week break after next week’s round of games. Why couldn’t it have been reschedule, Tudderman? You shouldn’t dig this hole any deeper than you already have.

Are Mayo that afraid of Roscommon that they weren’t willing to give up this ‘training session’?

Or, as seems to be the wont of Mayo GAA officials, did they look to seize an advantage over an already likely weaker weaker opponent?

Developmental grade my arse. More like win at all costs.

Maybe the Mayo lads are going on their holidays to the seaside for those 7 weeks, or have tickets for Ed Sheeran, so they're not available. I don't bloody know, and neither do you.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 03, 2018, 04:29:40 PM
Who is favourite for the U-17 this year anyway?
Galway I'd imagine.
Half of it won the Ted Webb last year.
Well probably concentrate on the B Competition .
I read somewhere that over half dozen lads didn't commit to it as they are committing to the minor hurlers instead.
No idea how true or otherwise that is.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 03, 2018, 04:35:18 PM
Who is favourite for the U-17 this year anyway?
Galway I'd imagine.
Half of it won the Ted Webb last year.
Well probably concentrate on the B Competition .
I read somewhere that over half dozen lads didn't commit to it as they are committing to the minor hurlers instead.
No idea how true or otherwise that is.

I heard it was like the Tipp situation last year where the hurling manager told them they couldn’t do both. Again, developmental grade my left arse cheek.

Our U16s beat one of the Galway teams and has the other dead and buried in the final but for a very late goal. Common theme with Roscommon teams.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 03, 2018, 07:49:36 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.

We didn’t even bother fielding a team in this competition for half a decade and when we did it was a reserve team of senior panelists.

It’s hard to overstate how little is thought of the junior grade not just in Roscommon but the whole country, the competition needs to be revamped to have any meaning. The players that played tonight got more worth from the challenge matches than the competition itself.

A drum I've been banging for a bit is that counties are seriously missing a trick in terms of using the Juniors for developing players.

Kerry are getting a very solid return using their Junior setup to develop players for senior - It also a handy tool in terms of assessing players before promoting them to the seniors.

Read somewhere that 10 out of the 37 players Kerry used in the league this year lined out for their Juniors previously.

They treat the competition very seriously and are going for a four-in-a-row this year.

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 03, 2018, 09:11:23 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.

We didn’t even bother fielding a team in this competition for half a decade and when we did it was a reserve team of senior panelists.

It’s hard to overstate how little is thought of the junior grade not just in Roscommon but the whole country, the competition needs to be revamped to have any meaning. The players that played tonight got more worth from the challenge matches than the competition itself.

A drum I've been banging for a bit is that counties are seriously missing a trick in terms of using the Juniors for developing players.

Kerry are getting a very solid return using their Junior setup to develop players for senior - It also a handy tool in terms of assessing players before promoting them to the seniors.

Read somewhere that 10 out of the 37 players Kerry used in the league this year lined out for their Juniors previously.

They treat the competition very seriously and are going for a four-in-a-row this year.
Except if you've played senior club championship the season before you're not eligible for the county junior team - in Galway anyway I know other counties are different.
Galway certainly don't put much emphasis on it and do little or no preparation for it.
My brother played on the team recently enough.I think they may have got together once before championship and that was it.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 03, 2018, 11:15:41 PM
Good win for Mayo considering the strength of the two sides that started. McStay's sides are consistent can score high and concede too much and if the latter isn't corrected the Rossies will not be reaching the super 8 this summer.

I’m sure a junior match played in early May will have a lot of bearing on the summer ahead. I’ve heard it all now.

Given the different eligibility rules and the fact that Mayo mgmt were only put in place in the past month, it's a terrible result for the Rossies and a very unexpected and welcome result for Mayo.

We didn’t even bother fielding a team in this competition for half a decade and when we did it was a reserve team of senior panelists.

It’s hard to overstate how little is thought of the junior grade not just in Roscommon but the whole country, the competition needs to be revamped to have any meaning. The players that played tonight got more worth from the challenge matches than the competition itself.

A drum I've been banging for a bit is that counties are seriously missing a trick in terms of using the Juniors for developing players.

Kerry are getting a very solid return using their Junior setup to develop players for senior - It also a handy tool in terms of assessing players before promoting them to the seniors.

Read somewhere that 10 out of the 37 players Kerry used in the league this year lined out for their Juniors previously.

They treat the competition very seriously and are going for a four-in-a-row this year.
Except if you've played senior club championship the season before you're not eligible for the county junior team - in Galway anyway I know other counties are different.
Galway certainly don't put much emphasis on it and do little or no preparation for it.
My brother played on the team recently enough.I think they may have got together once before championship and that was it.

That's the same rule as in Kerry for eligibility.
Some counties have that rule and others have it if you haven't played senior with the county the previous year.

Kerry have explicitly said they are using it as a development pathway for the senior team and from what I've heard have the lads involved on gym programs/development programs i.e there's proper development of players. As a way of bringing on lads with talent who might not be ready physically for senior intercounty it's ideal to my mind.
There are so many positives I just can't understand why more counties don't make better use of the junior competition.
The thing though is that it involves long-term thinking, which is something a whole lot of county boards aren't all that good at.
If a county board is just going to randomly throw a bunch of lads together a week or two before the first game, it's no surprise if they don't get the same number of senior players out of it as a county like Kerry where there's joined up thinking at work.

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 04, 2018, 07:44:18 PM
MFC Galway 2-5 Ros 0-5 at ht.
When will we produce defenders at all?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 04, 2018, 08:14:23 PM
Roscommon getting a proper mauling by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 04, 2018, 08:20:39 PM
FT

Galway 4-18 Roscommon 0-8
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 04, 2018, 08:25:32 PM
FT

Galway 4-18 Roscommon 0-8

Bloody hell a bad beating for Ros.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Itchy on May 04, 2018, 08:39:17 PM
I expect Ros had wrong studs in today and the ref was totally against them?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: larryin89 on May 04, 2018, 09:27:09 PM
Galway are going to take over
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 04, 2018, 10:01:19 PM
FT

Galway 4-18 Roscommon 0-8
Hard to pick it up now for the Rhubarbs next Friday.....
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 04, 2018, 10:27:12 PM
FT

Galway 4-18 Roscommon 0-8
Hard to pick it up now for the Rhubarbs next Friday.....

Best not turn up, dot dot dot.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 04, 2018, 10:42:24 PM
If yer heading away anywhere be sure and let us know
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 04, 2018, 10:55:54 PM
I know Galway are very strong at this level but it still doesn't make much sense how Roscommon lost by that wide margin when they had a very competitive U16 team last year. At least its a round robin system and they might recover and show they are better than tonight can't be much worse anyway? As for Galway it going to take a top team to beat them at U17 level this year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on May 05, 2018, 09:08:26 AM
Ross were marginally the better team in the first until we got 2 very late goals, one a penalty.  Galway upped it significantly in the second half and it was very much one way traffic as the score line suggests.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 06, 2018, 08:26:03 PM
Trouble in paradise.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/galway-minor-football-manager-unhappy-hurling-counterpart-159249 (https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/galway-minor-football-manager-unhappy-hurling-counterpart-159249)

Galway minor football manager unhappy with hurling counterpart

NIALL MCINTYRE

The perils of being good at both.
Galway are without doubt one of if not the most successful dual county in Ireland. While the common conception is that the majority of hurlers are from the east of the county, and footballers from the west, the reality is that there are a number who excel at both codes.

Hurlers Cathal and Padraig Mannion, John Hanbury, Daithí Burke and Matt Donoghue are all esteemed footballers. And despite Damien Comer, Danny Cummins and Eamonn Brannigan all being better known for their exploits with the big ball, they are adept with a stick in their hands also.

When it gets to senior, the majority of these players make a choice as to which code they'll stick with but in previous years, there hasn't been a huge problem with players playing both codes at an underage level for Galway. Tom Flynn and Daithí Burke, for example played both codes at minor and under-21 without any problems arising.

Some problems have arisen this year, however.

Galway minor football manager Donal Ó Fatharta was interviewed on Raidió Na Gaeltachta by Cárthach Breathnach in the aftermath of his side's comprehensive victory over Roscommon in their Connacht Championship first round clash on Friday evening.

Ó Fatharta, a member the An Spideal hurling and football club, hit out at minor hurling manager Jeffrey Lynskey for preventing a number of his panellists from playing football as well as hurling in maroon.

"They (a group of players) were with us in January but there was a decision made that I didn't agree with and I fought as much as I could, but I wasn't listened to at all," began Ó Fátharta.

It is claimed that Lynskey has disallowed ten of his panel members from playing football.

"It was the manager of the hurling panel, Jeffrey Lynskey who made the decision. It wouldn't be right that I would have that power, and in my opinion, it's not right that anybody would have that power," he continued.

"This first happened in February, we're without, around ten of them who would probably be on the panel.

"But we drew a line in the sand in February and from then on we said that's the panel we have for the year now.

"The power should be with the county board for something like that, but that's the way it is and we're going to work away with what we have...It will be in front of the board and the clubs in the future."
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 08, 2018, 01:16:08 PM
Thats a bizare result from Tuam even more so given they were level after 30 minutes. I saw the highlights, Galway looked to have some  great forwards.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 08, 2018, 01:20:20 PM
Ross were marginally the better team in the first until we got 2 very late goals, one a penalty.  Galway upped it significantly in the second half and it was very much one way traffic as the score line suggests.

As much about young players dropping the head and talking a hammering as it was anything brilliant from Galway. Given the underage results between the same players previously it appears a very anomalous result and hopefully one we will get a chance to correct if we beat Mayo in Kiltoom on Friday.

Halloran at 11 stood out though, but it seemed mad playing him if he needed such a heavy knee brace and then having to be removed with a lot left on the clock simply as a precaution. We’re well used to short term thinking with talented young players here too.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 08, 2018, 01:37:15 PM
Anywhere I can see the Galway Roscommon minor highlights?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 08, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
Anywhere I can see the Galway Roscommon minor highlights?

should be on the tg4 player at some stage
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 09, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
Sligo have withdrawn from the junior.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 09, 2018, 03:22:15 PM
Sligo have withdrawn from the junior.

Bereavement in the camp. Condonlences to those involved.

It’s been a long time now since all five Connacht counties actually played in junior.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: sligoman2 on May 09, 2018, 06:14:14 PM
Who passed away?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ck on May 09, 2018, 09:47:59 PM
Sligo have withdrawn from the junior.

Certainly have and a wise decision too
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: MayoBuck on May 10, 2018, 07:36:30 PM
Mayo juniors ahead of Leitrim at the break, 0-10 to 0-3.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: MayoBuck on May 10, 2018, 08:26:33 PM
Full time:
Leitrim 0-8
Mayo 0-17
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 10, 2018, 08:41:51 PM
Who passed away?
A relation of the manager I believe.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: SLIGONIAN on May 11, 2018, 08:17:36 PM
How good are Galway minors :o They're going to hammer everyone in Connacht,

Roscommon hammering Mayo
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 11, 2018, 08:20:26 PM
The Rossies are absolutely pasting Mayo, great response from their young lads to the bad result last week.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 11, 2018, 08:22:27 PM
Tonight minor Results

Sligo 0-10 Galway 3-15
Roscommon 4-12 Mayo 0-11
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 11, 2018, 08:28:32 PM
Did the training match against Leitrim do ye much good, Tomas?? ;D

Much better than last week but I expected it, these are some good footballers and they didn’t suddenly turn into a useless team because of one bad half. Hopefully we can get a second crack at Galway now.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 11, 2018, 08:44:01 PM
The terrible underage trend continues for Mayo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 11, 2018, 09:51:32 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: sligoman2 on May 11, 2018, 10:07:12 PM
Not a good result for us, very surprised that no players from tourlestrane and only one from Mary's .  Hopefully that is a good thing for the county..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 11, 2018, 10:16:04 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 11, 2018, 10:28:00 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?

The default rule for all GAA competitions is that if 2 teams are level on points it's head-to-head, if it's 3 or more then scoring difference (not average) comes into play.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 11, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?

You’ll need to play with 12 men if you want to lose to Mayo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 11, 2018, 10:37:32 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?

You’ll need to play with 12 men if you want to lose to Mayo.
Stranger things have happened.
I won’t be judging Mayo on tonight’s game in isolation much like you haven’t judged Roscommon on last weeks butchering in isolation.
So you don’t have an answer to the question that was asked then I take it?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 11, 2018, 10:39:00 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?

The default rule for all GAA competitions is that if 2 teams are level on points it's head-to-head, if it's 3 or more then scoring difference (not average) comes into play.
Across all 4 games a team plays not just those against the other 2 teams they are tied with is it?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 11, 2018, 10:49:35 PM
That's the norm...... but with Connacht Council.......
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 11, 2018, 10:50:38 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?




Thats the current table as you can see its currently based on head to head results but if 3 sides finish level on points it will be decided on scoring averages.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 11, 2018, 11:02:38 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?




Thats the current table as you can see its currently based on head to head results but if 3 sides finish level on points it will be decided on scoring averages.
With that scoring difference it would want to go badly pear shaped for us not to make the final now regardless.
I think Connacht play Munster this year in quarter finals.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 11, 2018, 11:21:16 PM
The Herrins seem the real deal alright.
Hopefully we can win our 2 remaining games and get another cracking at them in the Final.
Great result for our buicíns tonight and hopefully they've all the dirty diesel out of the system now.
Does it come down to scoring averages across all games if 3 teams finish level on points?

You’ll need to play with 12 men if you want to lose to Mayo.
Stranger things have happened.
I won’t be judging Mayo on tonight’s game in isolation much like you haven’t judged Roscommon on last weeks butchering in isolation.
So you don’t have an answer to the question that was asked then I take it?

Sure it’s always scoring difference when there’s more than two on the same points. On that topic, if one team happens to have beaten both teams in a three-way tie the head-to-head should still count, but it never does. Had we lost to Cork in the NFL this year there was a possibility that Tipp and Cavan would have got promoted despite us beating both.

Edit: I like how Willie Joe reported on the Mayo minors hammering an under-strength Leitrim side but made no mention of them getting pasted in Kiltoom..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: larryin89 on May 12, 2018, 07:09:13 AM
Honestly  your obsession with Mayo is unhealthy.  You'll never enjoy a victory if you carry on . Well done on last night,  Galway and Ros almost there now to take over in the West.  Whether either are good enough to make this count in the senior grade in the years ahead remains to be see. 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 12, 2018, 02:04:33 PM
It's interesting when you see that Mayo schools have been doing quite well in recent years but it doesn't seem to be translating into underage. Galway hasn't even had a school in the Connacht colleges final since 2013. Our own schools haven't been doing much at all but the schools game doesn't seem to have the importance it once did.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 12, 2018, 03:31:04 PM
It's interesting when you see that Mayo schools have been doing quite well in recent years but it doesn't seem to be translating into underage. Galway hasn'ti even had a school in the Connacht colleges final since 2013. Our own schools haven't been doing much at all but the schools game doesn't seem to have the importance it once did.

I don’t think schools football bears much relation to county success at all. The year CBS got to the A final we lost to Sligo in Kiltoom. It’s a bit like Cross winning club AIs and expecting Armagh to challenge for IC titles as a result.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on May 12, 2018, 06:02:59 PM
It's interesting when you see that Mayo schools have been doing quite well in recent years but it doesn't seem to be translating into underage. Galway hasn'ti even had a school in the Connacht colleges final since 2013. Our own schools haven't been doing much at all but the schools game doesn't seem to have the importance it once did.

I don’t think schools football bears much relation to county success at all. The year CBS got to the A final we lost to Sligo in Kiltoom. It’s a bit like Cross winning club AIs and expecting Armagh to challenge for IC titles as a result.

Well you'd hardly expect lads doing their leaving to be the linchpin of the county senior team...
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 12, 2018, 06:45:17 PM
It's interesting when you see that Mayo schools have been doing quite well in recent years but it doesn't seem to be translating into underage. Galway hasn'ti even had a school in the Connacht colleges final since 2013. Our own schools haven't been doing much at all but the schools game doesn't seem to have the importance it once did.

I don’t think schools football bears much relation to county success at all. The year CBS got to the A final we lost to Sligo in Kiltoom. It’s a bit like Cross winning club AIs and expecting Armagh to challenge for IC titles as a result.

Well you'd hardly expect lads doing their leaving to be the linchpin of the county senior team...

Eh?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 13, 2018, 02:44:39 PM
Connacht Junior final with 3 mins to play. Mayo 1-10 Galway 1-11.

FT Mayo 1-10 Galway 1-11
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 14, 2018, 09:28:59 PM
Just seen the Roscommon Mayo minor highlights . Jesus the Mayo backs look a shambles . Galway must be a fair team though to beat the Rossies by such a big margin .
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 21, 2018, 03:01:38 PM
Do Galway play the winners of Sligo/Roscommon?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on May 21, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
Don't think it's quite that simple Maroon Manc.....Mayo and Leitrim still in it with it being round robin.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 21, 2018, 03:11:46 PM
Don't think it's quite that simple Maroon Manc.....Mayo and Leitrim still in it with it being round robin.

My fault for not stating I meant the 20's?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 21, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
Don't think it's quite that simple Maroon Manc.....Mayo and Leitrim still in it with it being round robin.

My fault for not stating I meant the 20's?

Yes Galway play the winner of Sligo or Roscommon in the U20 semi final.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mano on May 30, 2018, 10:10:19 AM
Sligo play Roscommon in the under 20's this weekend without their 3 best players (and probably their keeper) due to this crazy rule that under 20 players who play senior championship cannot play under 20. Again another rule implemented by GAA authorities that has an negative impact on the weaker counties. Don't think any Roscommon under 20 players lined out last weekend although the Lennon lad is injured. This 2 teams played out a very tight game at minor level with Roscommon coming from behind to win by a point. Likely to be a more comfortable victory for the Rossies at the weekend due to Sligo missing players.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 30, 2018, 10:55:07 AM
At least this year the winners get a week's break before they play Galway.
2 years ago as Minors we had Sligo game on Saturday and the Galway game 4 days later.
Ciaran Lennon has a hand injury as far as I know while Featherstone was sub keeper last Saturday.
I expect Galway with their recent spate of good minor teams are favoured to win it out.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 30, 2018, 11:26:52 AM
Sligo play Roscommon in the under 20's this weekend without their 3 best players (and probably their keeper) due to this crazy rule that under 20 players who play senior championship cannot play under 20. Again another rule implemented by GAA authorities that has an negative impact on the weaker counties. Don't think any Roscommon under 20 players lined out last weekend although the Lennon lad is injured. This 2 teams played out a very tight game at minor level with Roscommon coming from behind to win by a point. Likely to be a more comfortable victory for the Rossies at the weekend due to Sligo missing players.

We’re missing our starting senior IC FF with a broken thumb and exams may have ruled out Michael Galavey’s star forward Cathal Henaghan too. That would mean an awful lot of our offense will have to go through Cian McKeon, a senior panellist who started in the year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 30, 2018, 12:24:40 PM
"Offense" ......
What next?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 30, 2018, 12:47:56 PM
"Offense" ......
What next?

Defense...which Roscommon have a lot to learn about. ;)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 30, 2018, 12:57:10 PM
"Offense" ......
What next?

Defense...which Roscommon have a lot to learn about. ;)

Cake knows plenty about it.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 30, 2018, 01:29:38 PM
Sligo play Roscommon in the under 20's this weekend without their 3 best players (and probably their keeper) due to this crazy rule that under 20 players who play senior championship cannot play under 20. Again another rule implemented by GAA authorities that has an negative impact on the weaker counties. Don't think any Roscommon under 20 players lined out last weekend although the Lennon lad is injured. This 2 teams played out a very tight game at minor level with Roscommon coming from behind to win by a point. Likely to be a more comfortable victory for the Rossies at the weekend due to Sligo missing players.

Anyone with a ounce of sense knows it was wrong to scrap the U21 football championship and even more so when you see what its replaced with. Hard to warm to U20 championship at all and if its kept on the crazy rules as you mentioned there need to be changed and this championship should be played at more suitable time than in the middle of exams.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Hound on May 30, 2018, 01:44:41 PM
Sligo play Roscommon in the under 20's this weekend without their 3 best players (and probably their keeper) due to this crazy rule that under 20 players who play senior championship cannot play under 20. Again another rule implemented by GAA authorities that has an negative impact on the weaker counties. Don't think any Roscommon under 20 players lined out last weekend although the Lennon lad is injured. This 2 teams played out a very tight game at minor level with Roscommon coming from behind to win by a point. Likely to be a more comfortable victory for the Rossies at the weekend due to Sligo missing players.

Anyone with a ounce of sense knows it was wrong to scrap the U21 football championship and even more so when you see what its replaced with. Hard to warm to U20 championship at all and if its kept on the crazy rules as you mentioned there need to be changed and this championship should be played at more suitable time than in the middle of exams.

BURN OUT!

SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!

Or so the mantra went. Yet it was never defined. What exactly is burn out, and which players got burned out? And did everyone else with the same workload get burn out too, or was it just the odd lad?

So the answer is let's go after the little counties and hit them where it hurts, not let their best lads play!

It's training rather than matches that need sorting. Playing consecutive days for different teams (or the same team for Sigerson!) should be banned, as should training for multiple teams at the same time.

The rule should be that if you are training with the senior team, you can't also train with the U20s, other than maybe attend meetings or video sessions. But if the U20s want to pick you for a match, then fire ahead. It mightn't be ideal, but better than this situation which penalises the smaller counties very heavily.   
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: SLIGONIAN on May 30, 2018, 05:53:42 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: westbound on May 31, 2018, 10:17:48 AM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mano on May 31, 2018, 10:37:58 AM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on May 31, 2018, 11:17:01 AM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.


There are also other U20 players who would be in contention for a place on the bench with the seniors which adds complication to the week for both management teams. Not ideal.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.
Silly rule no doubt but what is worse is scheduling this championship at exam times. Shane Curran from listening to this http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-sport/shane-curran-looks-ahead-sligo-showdown/ has decided study,education comes first and rightly so but who is the buffoons responsible for playing it in June. 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: westbound on May 31, 2018, 01:08:14 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

I know that.

My point was to question how sligonian thinks that the senior fixtures (i.e. roscommon having the weekend off) 'sets it up for Roscommon'?

I agree that the rules affects teams with bigger/stronger panels the least.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 31, 2018, 01:16:38 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

Can't you play for the U20s and still be a sub keeper for the seniors?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: weareros on May 31, 2018, 01:31:55 PM
The U21 Championship was one of the few GAA competitions that had no flaws. It was played off quickly, old fashioned knockout, at a time of year when did not conflict with senior championship or school exams, a good age for most players  to then transition into senior. The football was good and there was prestige in winning it. It was no wonder they decided to eff it up.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mano on May 31, 2018, 01:59:33 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

Can't you play for the U20s and still be a sub keeper for the seniors?

I think that should be acceptable. However senior manager doesn't. Other players on the senior panel u20's are having difficulty getting access to. Rule is a joke and need to be repealed.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Hound on May 31, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.

What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

Can't you play for the U20s and still be a sub keeper for the seniors?
Yep. But if you come on as sub for the seniors, then you can't play any more with the 20s.
Evan Comerford has been sub goalie for both the Dubs seniors and U20s this year. Not clear why he didn't start for the U20s, maybe he will for the next match
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 02:34:31 PM
Think this is a very good rule. All underage inter county championships should be played in group formats, knockout is daft, and lads should be only able to play on one team. I find it amazing that lads complain about the club fixtures but then want lads to be able to play with multiple inter county teams. If a guy is good enough to play on both an U20 and senior team then pick one and go with it. IMO, if he is U20 it should be the U20 team and he should be guaranteed at least 5 championship games with them.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on May 31, 2018, 02:40:17 PM
Think this is a very good rule. All underage inter county championships should be played in group formats, knockout is daft, and lads should be only able to play on one team. I find it amazing that lads complain about the club fixtures but then want lads to be able to play with multiple inter county teams. If a guy is good enough to play on both an U20 and senior team then pick one and go with it. IMO, if he is U20 it should be the U20 team and he should be guaranteed at least 5 championship games with them.


The rule will only ever impact counties with fewer playing resources. You'll rarely see an u-20 player getting game time with Dublin for example while we had 3 lads playing against London. I understand the thinking but the impact is not equitable.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 31, 2018, 02:43:22 PM
This match could not have been more set up for Roscommon, having Sligo Seniors playing the day after and Roscommon seniors having the weekend off. So either way we were screwed. All im looking for is being competitive, we have some great players coming through but missing Liam Gaughan, Carrabine, O Connor who have excelled already for us at senior and will test Galway are huge losses to the u20. It will be interesting to see how we get on, because with Red Og, Marren, Gorman etc.. theres always a chance.
I assume Comerford was held in reserve for the u20s as he wouldn't be able to sub for the seniors if he played?
Begs the question of why he was included on the bench in the first place then though.
What impact does the seniors fixtures have on the U-20 game?

Rule brought in last year to combat 'burn out' which states a player cannot play under 20 if he has played senior championship in the same year. This rules out 3 Sligo players, Liam Gaughan, Paddy O'Connor and Sean Carribine. Also unlikely that the keeper will not play as he is sub keeper for the senior team the following day. Absolute joke of a ruling.

Can't you play for the U20s and still be a sub keeper for the seniors?
Yep. But if you come on as sub for the seniors, then you can't play any more with the 20s.
Evan Comerford has been sub goalie for both the Dubs seniors and U20s this year. Not clear why he didn't start for the U20s, maybe he will for the next match
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 31, 2018, 03:15:29 PM
Think this is a very good rule.
Why am i not surprised you think that ::)


All underage inter county championships should be played in group formats, knockout is daft, and lads should be only able to play on one team.


Group formats is for the development of underage players 17 or under the more games the better for them. U20 is an adult grade and the next stepping stone to senior county level. U21 was a old fashion knock out competition and was ran very well and U20 was meant to be its replacement but we are left with a competition scheduled at daft time of year and played without a number of its better players which will hit the lesser counties the most and any U20 player looking to make the step up would prefer to challenge himself against the best players at this grade and supporters want to see the best U20 footballers going head to head also.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 03:48:44 PM
Because it's sensible perhaps?

U21 is not about development, are you serious?? This is the most important period of development for young lads. In the old format, a guy overage for minor could have 3 years at U21 level and play 3 championship games, 3 games in 3 years, yeah that's brilliant for development. Not to mention the majority of U21 squads would have got 2 championship games per year together before breaking up for 8 months at least.


Who cares what the fans want? I'm interested in the players. Give them games and if you want to go watch do, if you don't then don't. The timing of the U20 might need looked at due to exams but that's easily addressed. Playing U21 in the muck, when Sigerson and league was on was far from ideal.

This doesn't favour the stronger teams, Dublin would have had a choice to make over Con O'Callaghan last year. Sligo have a choice to make regarding some players, let them make that choice but if they choose to play U20 give them plenty of games to develop. We often threw young players in too early and then they had to play senior U21, club and often in two codes. This caused problems with club fixtures and lads being flogged. This is about addressing those problems and is the correct road to take.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 03:52:45 PM
Think this is a very good rule. All underage inter county championships should be played in group formats, knockout is daft, and lads should be only able to play on one team. I find it amazing that lads complain about the club fixtures but then want lads to be able to play with multiple inter county teams. If a guy is good enough to play on both an U20 and senior team then pick one and go with it. IMO, if he is U20 it should be the U20 team and he should be guaranteed at least 5 championship games with them.


The rule will only ever impact counties with fewer playing resources. You'll rarely see an u-20 player getting game time with Dublin for example while we had 3 lads playing against London. I understand the thinking but the impact is not equitable.

I appreciate that but the problem in the GAA is that we have often not done the right think because of the minority situation which meant we fell between two stools.

Obviously, bigger counties might not face the problem of choosing as often but Kerry have Sean O'Se and Clifford this year (might be one or two more) but reducing the number of teams lads have to play for will help their development longterm. Sligo might have some short-term pain but it will be for longterm gain IMO.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 31, 2018, 03:59:34 PM
Anyway the Connacht U20 Championship is knock out while Leinster is  groups.
Not sure what format the other 2 have.
Our senior sub goalie is u20 also.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 31, 2018, 04:19:12 PM
Because it's sensible perhaps?
Getting rid of one well run tournament and replacing it with a poorly run and diluted one is not sensible



U21 is about development, are you serious?? This is the most important period of development for young lads. In the old format, a guy overage for minor could have 3 years at U21 level and play 3 championship games, 3 games in 3 years, yeah that's brilliant for development. Not to mention the majority of U21 squads would have got 2 championship games per year together before breaking up for 8 months at least.
I said 17 or under is about development. U21 grade 19,20,21 years old was adult grade where winning becomes more important than game time and anyway the majority of U21 players had more games with pre-season competitions which the U20s in Connacht don't have now




Who cares what the fans want? I'm interested in the players.
Fans spend alot of their hard earned cash traveling to see these games and are very loyal to their counties whatever the grade. A lot of fans that goes to these games are the parents and relations of the players and again they would prefer to see their players tested against the very best U20 footballers

This doesn't favour the stronger teams, Dublin would have had a choice to make over Con O'Callaghan last year. Sligo have a choice to make regarding some players, let them make that choice but if they choose to play U20 give them plenty of games to develop.
Dublin can cope with their pick likewise Kerry if they choose to play some of their U20s for the seniors this summer can Sligo? the point is having a well ran competition with the best of best U20s going head to head which can't have been the difficult to do.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 04:34:49 PM
Anyway the Connacht U20 Championship is knock out while Leinster is  groups.
Not sure what format the other 2 have.
Our senior sub goalie is u20 also.
Ulster is knock out also. Late August early September was probably the best time to play this competition and all U-20 footballers should be allowed to play for their counties.

As it stands most 18 year olds will be doing their leaving certs as will a few 19 years olds that have repeated and then you have some of best U20s not available for selection because they can't play both grades.  I can't even imagine how light that leaves the weaker counties and they will be forced to start lads that aren't up to this level at all.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 04:35:12 PM
That was a typo, 17 to 21 is the most important part of developing a player for adult. It is not about winning or shouldn't be and even if it is about winning how does a tournament that gives the vast majority of players 3-6 games in three years help anything? Pre-season games are fine but if you want to really develop players give them group games in the championship. No reason we can't have four groups of 8 so a minimum of 7 games against various opponents and you can still have your pre-season games.


From 17 to 21 lads should be playing football and fine tuning thier physical development, skills and decision making so that they are more prepared for the rigours of adult football.


If there are tweeks to be made to the U20 championship format then fine but it's nonsense to say the U21 was well run when the majority got one or two games and and it clashed with Sigerson and league and was played in poor weather.

Fans go to all types of games, nobody complains about school, club or regional competitions because their lads didin't beat the Dubs. If you want to see the best go to senior. Your entitled to your opinion on this but I wouldn't agree it should play any role in deciding our competition formats.

Of course it's difficult to have a competition with the best U20's if you want them also playing senior. The one thing all these discussions about formats prove is that it's extremely difficult to have players playing for multiple teams and still give games to the majority who don't have mulitple teams.


Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: shark on May 31, 2018, 04:50:28 PM
Anyway the Connacht U20 Championship is knock out while Leinster is  groups.
Not sure what format the other 2 have.
Our senior sub goalie is u20 also.
Ulster is knock out also. Late August early September was probably the best time to play this competition and all U-20 footballers should be allowed to play for their counties.

As it stands most 18 year olds will be doing their leaving certs as will a few 19 years olds that have repeated and then you have some of best U20s not available for selection because they can't play both grades.  I can't even imagine how light that leaves the weaker counties and they will be forced to start lads that aren't up to this level at all.

August and September? I hope you’re joking. Have you heard of club championships?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
Anyway the Connacht U20 Championship is knock out while Leinster is  groups.
Not sure what format the other 2 have.
Our senior sub goalie is u20 also.
Ulster is knock out also. Late August early September was probably the best time to play this competition and all U-20 footballers should be allowed to play for their counties.

As it stands most 18 year olds will be doing their leaving certs as will a few 19 years olds that have repeated and then you have some of best U20s not available for selection because they can't play both grades.  I can't even imagine how light that leaves the weaker counties and they will be forced to start lads that aren't up to this level at all.

August and September? I hope you’re joking. Have you heard of club championships?
Yes i have heard of club championships especially of daft scheduling of the club championships. First rounds played in April other rounds pushed back until late August early September, provincial championship played October,November and All Ireland final not played until March 17th.  In time that should be sorted along with playing this U20s competition at a more suitable time with its best players available for selection.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 05:45:17 PM
Why do the best players need to play? Lads get injured, refuse to play or go travelling yet we don't hold up competitions until they return. If a professional sports person can make their senior team they aren't expected to play underage and nobody complains. Why should we be different when those players already have club, county and probably university and some would have that for hurling as well?

The GAA have got this absolutely correct IMO. The format and the timing might need to be addressed but we definitely need to end the concept of players playing with multiple teams.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 06:00:01 PM
Why do the best players need to play? Lads get injured, refuse to play or go travelling yet we don't hold up competitions until they return. If a professional sports person can make their senior team they aren't expected to play underage and nobody complains. Why should we be different when those players already have club, county and probably university and some would have that for hurling as well?

The GAA have got this absolutely correct IMO. The format and the timing might need to be addressed but we definitely need to end the concept of players playing with multiple teams.

Zulu in lala land on things that benefit (or hurt less) big counties. Imagine that.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 06:16:31 PM
Why do the best players need to play? Lads get injured, refuse to play or go travelling yet we don't hold up competitions until they return. If a professional sports person can make their senior team they aren't expected to play underage and nobody complains. Why should we be different when those players already have club, county and probably university and some would have that for hurling as well?

The GAA have got this absolutely correct IMO. The format and the timing might need to be addressed but we definitely need to end the concept of players playing with multiple teams.

Because it will become more like a pre-season competition than a championship without its best players. Dublin like to flex their muscles but this isn't a professional sports game and we shouldn't have a situation which penalises the smaller counties very heavily.

Weaker counties can have a decent starting 15 and challenge for a provincial title but take away 2 or 3 of their better players and they will struggle to win any game in their province. Training on multiple teams is what was needed to be addressed not playing on multiple teams especially on U20 Connacht championship team that is knock football and could be just one game.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: shark on May 31, 2018, 06:18:54 PM
Anyway the Connacht U20 Championship is knock out while Leinster is  groups.
Not sure what format the other 2 have.
Our senior sub goalie is u20 also.
Ulster is knock out also. Late August early September was probably the best time to play this competition and all U-20 footballers should be allowed to play for their counties.

As it stands most 18 year olds will be doing their leaving certs as will a few 19 years olds that have repeated and then you have some of best U20s not available for selection because they can't play both grades.  I can't even imagine how light that leaves the weaker counties and they will be forced to start lads that aren't up to this level at all.

August and September? I hope you’re joking. Have you heard of club championships?
Yes i have heard of club championships especially of daft scheduling of the club championships. First rounds played in April other rounds pushed back until late August early September, provincial championship played October,November and All Ireland final not played until March 17th.  In time that should be sorted along with playing this U20s competition at a more suitable time with its best players available for selection.

All for these things being sorted or course. But putting U20 on top of club championships busiest months would make things worse for the majority of players.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 31, 2018, 06:44:32 PM
This championship and its rules were voted in by Congress.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 06:52:30 PM
This championship and its rules were voted in by Congress.

And?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 31, 2018, 07:16:48 PM
In 2017!
Where were the objections then??
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 31, 2018, 07:17:49 PM
This championship and its rules were voted in by Congress.
Are you one of those lads that trusts everything that was voted in and never questions how it got voted in?




Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 11:28:33 PM
Why do the best players need to play? Lads get injured, refuse to play or go travelling yet we don't hold up competitions until they return. If a professional sports person can make their senior team they aren't expected to play underage and nobody complains. Why should we be different when those players already have club, county and probably university and some would have that for hurling as well?

The GAA have got this absolutely correct IMO. The format and the timing might need to be addressed but we definitely need to end the concept of players playing with multiple teams.

Zulu in lala land on things that benefit (or hurt less) big counties. Imagine that.

Syferus, if I was in LaLa land I'd be bumping into you all the time. So what if stronger counties can take the hit more? At some point we have to do the best thing for players longterm and realise that there aren't perfect solutions. Offaly have chosen to keep their best player for U20 yet Kerry are doing the opposite. Offaly seniors can still get 10 to 15 years out of all their best young players without them ever not playing for their U20's when they're eligible.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2018, 11:34:27 PM
Why do the best players need to play? Lads get injured, refuse to play or go travelling yet we don't hold up competitions until they return. If a professional sports person can make their senior team they aren't expected to play underage and nobody complains. Why should we be different when those players already have club, county and probably university and some would have that for hurling as well?

The GAA have got this absolutely correct IMO. The format and the timing might need to be addressed but we definitely need to end the concept of players playing with multiple teams.

Because it will become more like a pre-season competition than a championship without its best players. Dublin like to flex their muscles but this isn't a professional sports game and we shouldn't have a situation which penalises the smaller counties very heavily.

Weaker counties can have a decent starting 15 and challenge for a provincial title but take away 2 or 3 of their better players and they will struggle to win any game in their province. Training on multiple teams is what was needed to be addressed not playing on multiple teams especially on U20 Connacht championship team that is knock football and could be just one game.

Ah here! There's no way it will be like a pre-season competition. Young lads playing for their county treating it as a pre-season tournament because they are (maybe) missing one or two players who are with the seniors, you can't really believe that? The majority know this will be their last inter county team and a few will be hoping it showcases their talents to the senior management.

This isn't penalising the weaker counties, all counties have to make a choice. Why can't weaker counties decide to allow 19 and 20 year olds play U20? Will Leitrim, Waterford or many other senior teams do way better due to 2 or 3 20 year olds?


It is utterly daft to play any inter county underage competition on a knockout basis. Sort that and you sort the problems. Give games to players. Simple.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 11:46:23 PM
Why do the best players need to play? Lads get injured, refuse to play or go travelling yet we don't hold up competitions until they return. If a professional sports person can make their senior team they aren't expected to play underage and nobody complains. Why should we be different when those players already have club, county and probably university and some would have that for hurling as well?

The GAA have got this absolutely correct IMO. The format and the timing might need to be addressed but we definitely need to end the concept of players playing with multiple teams.

Because it will become more like a pre-season competition than a championship without its best players. Dublin like to flex their muscles but this isn't a professional sports game and we shouldn't have a situation which penalises the smaller counties very heavily.

Weaker counties can have a decent starting 15 and challenge for a provincial title but take away 2 or 3 of their better players and they will struggle to win any game in their province. Training on multiple teams is what was needed to be addressed not playing on multiple teams especially on U20 Connacht championship team that is knock football and could be just one game.

Ah here! There's no way it will be like a pre-season competition. Young lads playing for their county treating it as a pre-season tournament because they are (maybe) missing one or two players who are with the seniors, you can't really believe that? The majority know this will be their last inter county team and a few will be hoping it showcases their talents to the senior management.

This isn't penalising the weaker counties, all counties have to make a choice. Why can't weaker counties decide to allow 19 and 20 year olds play U20? Will Leitrim, Waterford or many other senior teams do way better due to 2 or 3 20 year olds?


It is utterly daft to play any inter county underage competition on a knockout basis. Sort that and you sort the problems. Give games to players. Simple.

That you’d even ask that question shows how little you understand or care to understand the GAA outside of the big counties.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 12:11:47 AM
Again another comment from you that says nothing. You dismissed Carlow and when they showed you up you couldn't even give them a bit of credit. You're no friend of the weaker counties that's for sure.

For the craic, tell which counties would do significantly better with their U20's? And if you know of any, tell me why they can't have those players?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 01, 2018, 12:18:17 AM
Again another comment from you that says nothing. You dismissed Carlow and when they showed you up you couldn't even give them a bit of credit. You're no friend of the weaker counties that's for sure.

For the craic, tell which counties would do significantly better with their U20's? And if you know of any, tell me why they can't have those players?

You only need to leaf back a page to see one. But sure talking out of your hole and supporting elitism is much easier to do.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 12:26:56 AM
So you can't name any. Thought so. However, interesting to hear you think Sligo would beat Galway and Roscommon with a few extra 20 year olds.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 01, 2018, 12:50:16 AM
In Munster, Limerick and Waterford senior footballers could be done for the year on 9 June.  If any U20's play in either of the senior games, they are ineligible for the U20 team.

Both Limerick and Waterford play their first U20 game later in June, Limerick on 15 and Waterford on 22 June.

They could push the U20 competition back a few weeks and any U20 who has played senior, can play with the U20's only if the seniors are out of the AI championship. 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 12:51:57 AM
So you can't name any. Thought so. However, interesting to hear you think Sligo would beat Galway and Roscommon with a few extra 20 year olds.
Not sure what Syferus thinks but to remind you Sligo beat Roscommon at U21 level last year and brought Galway the All Ireland finalists to be to extra time. They probably wouldn't have beaten Roscommon if they had to play them without 3 of their best players. It not a choice for Sligo they are light on numbers.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 02:05:37 AM
So you can't name any. Thought so. However, interesting to hear you think Sligo would beat Galway and Roscommon with a few extra 20 year olds.
Not sure what Syferus thinks but to remind you Sligo beat Roscommon at U21 level last year and brought Galway the All Ireland finalists to be to extra time. They probably wouldn't have beaten Roscommon if they had to play them without 3 of their best players. It not a choice for Sligo they are light on numbers.

Sorry I'm not following. You're talking about U20's not playing U21? Syferus has suggested Sligo would do significantly better with some 20 year olds at senior level, is that true?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 02:06:41 AM
In Munster, Limerick and Waterford senior footballers could be done for the year on 9 June.  If any U20's play in either of the senior games, they are ineligible for the U20 team.

Both Limerick and Waterford play their first U20 game later in June, Limerick on 15 and Waterford on 22 June.

They could push the U20 competition back a few weeks and any U20 who has played senior, can play with the U20's only if the seniors are out of the AI championship.

Not suggesting the timing is right but the concept is.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 01, 2018, 08:10:31 AM
It's a simple rule.
Decide if a player is a development player - U20 or a senior player
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on June 01, 2018, 09:18:59 AM
Aye and sure lets give them all a medal and a lollipop.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 01, 2018, 09:55:24 AM
I personally have no problem with a county board holding back precocious youngsters if they feel it's in the player's interests. I also can see the argument for "if you're good enough, you're old enough", but in general I'd side with letting them mature physically and mentally within their own age group, and then stretch when ready.

But one thing about this, it does absolutely favour the stronger deeper counties, particularly at U20 level itself. It's very easy for Kerry, for example, to say 'Ah we'll let Clifford and O'Shea play with the seniors, we don't want to hold them back' because they are in the middle of an exceptional run of Minor teams coming through. This works out perfectly for them because now the lads just below in the pecking order, will get the full gametime with the U20s, and are probably better than what's in other counties anyway.

If Offaly, or Tipperary, release a star U20 to play senior, that will be a major blow to their competitiveness at that level. So they have a choice to make that is different to Kerry. Namely, do we prioritise the senior and take the risk that this lad is not ready for senior championship football, and screw the U20s; or Do we sacrifice the benefits this lad might make to our seniors, in the name of developing him at his own group, and making our U20s more competitive?

Offaly have chosen the latter, and I think that's to be commended as a principled stance.
Kerry can eat their cake and have it, because they have lads plenty good enough to pad out their U20s anyway.

By the way, I'm not saying it's an unfair rule, I think it's in place for the right reasons. I just think the deeper counties have a less tough time adhering to it.

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 12:38:02 PM
I agree but all fair rules will favour the stronger counties so that doesn't matter. Players want games and not knockout competitions so lets give them that even if it means bigger counties get more from it. We can't please everyone all the time.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 01, 2018, 12:41:15 PM
I agree but all fair rules will favour the stronger counties so that doesn't matter. Players want games and not knockout competitions so lets give them that even if it means bigger counties get more from it. We can't please everyone all the time.

Yep, no problem with that.In my view you could play the U20 alongside the minor and senior because of the age partitioning. There's no crossover.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 12:57:46 PM
Exactly, you could give all IC players 7 games in 10 weeks and then have club games because there's no crossover at IC level but if you've to allow an 18 year old play U20 and senior IC hurling and football then clubs would have to wait 3 or 4 months, maybe more if one of those four teams are successful.


Thankfully the GAA are no longer catering for the 1% of elite young dual code athletes and instead are looking at the other 99%.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 01, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
Winning at the age group of U21 in the past and now U20 becomes more important because a winning mentality is one of the most important things needed for the step up to senior. Plenty if not most of the skillset of a footballer is done in development panels. Those deemed good enough are promoted up and then the objective is to bulk them up and make them physically ready for the senior game.

The best example is Dublin, minor and levels below is treated as development football and even right now at U17 level to the untrained eye some are judging that team on results alone. U21 was treated as adult grade by Dublin and won 4 All Irelands in 7 years meanwhile 1985 to 2017 Dublin only won one minor All Ireland title.

As i said before U21 level was a well ran tournament but wasn't perfect however only small tweeks is all the U21 grade needed than scrapping it.  Zulu you are entitled to your opinion on this also but nothing you have said has remotely changed my views on this topic. It is what it is right now but in time HQ should have the common sense to make the changes again and bring in a better or make the necessary improvements for this replacement tournament for the U21 championship as only so long can you run with diluted tournament played at the wrong time of year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 01:53:11 PM
Roscommon U20 team. Oddly some of their best minors of the last few years only named on the bench and haven't named their senior sub keeper at all?

 1. Aaron Brady (Elphin)
2. Liam Cregg (Michael Glavey’s)
3. Evan Flynn (Tulsk)
4. Gerry Galvin (Tulsk)
5. Aidan Dowd , (Western Gaels)
6. Luke Mollohan (Elphin)
7. Darren Nerney, (St. Faithleach’s)
8. Conor Shanagher (Kilbride)
9. Eddie Nolan (St Brigid’s)
10. David Mc Manus (Clann na nGael)
11. Damien Duff (Clann na nGael)
12. Ciaran Lawless (Oran)
13. Paul Carey (Padraig Pearses)
14. Cian McKeon (Boyle)
15. Brian Derwin (St Brigid’s)

Subs

16. Richard Thompson (St Croan’s)
17. Keith Murphy. (Strokestown)
18. Dylan Ruane (Michaels Glavey’s)
19. Gavan Byrne (St. Brigid’s)
20. Lorcan Daly (Padraig Pearses)
21. Stephen Lennon (Tulsk Lord Edwards)
22. Cian Corcoran (Strokestown)
23. Michael Conroy (Castlerea St Kevin’s)
24. Ciaran Surgue (St Brigid’s)
25.Fergal Guihen (St Ronan’s)
26.Callum Fahey (Tulsk)
27.Kealan Byrne (St Brigid’s)
28.Darren Carroll (St. Brigid’s)
29.Conor Egan (Ballinameen)
30.Darragh Kildea (Clann na Gael)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 01, 2018, 01:58:48 PM
Looking like a handy win for Sligo :-\
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 02:19:49 PM
Sligo team named. No subs published.



    Daniel Lyons (Shamrock Gaels)
    Oisin Conlon (Ballymote)
    Adrian Cummins (Calry/St Joseph’s)
    Evan Lyons (Shamrock Gaels)
    Sean Murphy (Coolera/Strandhill)
    Mikey Gordon (Easkey)
    Luke Towey (St Molaise Gaels)
    Barry Gorman (Coolaney/Mullinabreena)
    Adrian Frain (Bunninadden)
    Rory McHugh (Easkey)
    Red Óg Murphy (Curry)
    Conan Marren (Tourlestrane)
    Joe McHugh (Easkey)
    Shane Deignan (Shamrock Gaels)
    Ciaran O’Dowd (Enniscrone/Kilglass)

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mano on June 01, 2018, 02:37:17 PM
Sligo team named. No subs published.



    Daniel Lyons (Shamrock Gaels)
    Oisin Conlon (Ballymote)
    Adrian Cummins (Calry/St Joseph’s)
    Evan Lyons (Shamrock Gaels)
    Sean Murphy (Coolera/Strandhill)
    Mikey Gordon (Easkey)
    Luke Towey (St Molaise Gaels)
    Barry Gorman (Coolaney/Mullinabreena)
    Adrian Frain (Bunninadden)
    Rory McHugh (Easkey)
    Red Óg Murphy (Curry)
    Conan Marren (Tourlestrane)
    Joe McHugh (Easkey)
    Shane Deignan (Shamrock Gaels)
    Ciaran O’Dowd (Enniscrone/Kilglass)


County senior reserve keeper not selected for Sligo U20 team either.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 02:45:13 PM
Winning at the age group of U21 in the past and now U20 becomes more important because a winning mentality is one of the most important things needed for the step up to senior. Plenty if not most of the skillset of a footballer is done in development panels. Those deemed good enough are promoted up and then the objective is to bulk them up and make them physically ready for the senior game.

The best example is Dublin, minor and levels below is treated as development football and even right now at U17 level to the untrained eye some are judging that team on results alone. U21 was treated as adult grade by Dublin and won 4 All Irelands in 7 years meanwhile 1985 to 2017 Dublin only won one minor All Ireland title.

As i said before U21 level was a well ran tournament but wasn't perfect however only small tweeks is all the U21 grade needed than scrapping it.  Zulu you are entitled to your opinion on this also but nothing you have said has remotely changed my views on this topic. It is what it is right now but in time HQ should have the common sense to make the changes again and bring in a better or make the necessary improvements for this replacement tournament for the U21 championship as only so long can you run with diluted tournament played at the wrong time of year.

You claimed U21 was a great competition yet most teams were out after, at most, two games. How does that foster a winning mentality? What does that even mean anyway? The competition is only one of many those players take part in. I coach kids, some of them would kill you to win, others not so much, a winning mentality is inherent in players, you can't really develop it and you certainly can't with knockout football.

Dublin won U21's because they continued to develop players, not because they started focusing on winning.

You're entitled to your opinion but with respect, it's clear you don't coach as what you're saying is completely wrong.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 01, 2018, 03:31:46 PM

You claimed U21 was a great competition yet most teams were out after, at most, two games. How does that foster a winning mentality? What does that even mean anyway? The competition is only one of many those players take part in. I coach kids, some of them would kill you to win, others not so much, a winning mentality is inherent in players, you can't really develop it and you certainly can't with knockout football.

Dublin won U21's because they continued to develop players, not because they started focusing on winning.

You're entitled to your opinion but with respect, it's clear you don't coach as what you're saying is completely wrong.
I said it was a well ran competition and was the last of our old fashion knock out tournaments. Unlike you i believe a winning mentality is developed into a team and i certainly think it can be developed in a do or die knock out games and even in defeats plenty is learnt from it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger and all that.

Dublins main development was done before those players joined the U21 grade and they only fine tuned things then. I have coached from U8 up to U16 getting children to first enjoy the sport then develop the skillset of the players. I have only briefly coached at adult level because the win at all cost mentality doesn't appeal to me as much.

One final word on this. In the future try to truly respect my opinion and the opinion of others and stop playing the arrogant and stubborn persona you like to play on here.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 06:53:10 PM
Sorry now but you set the tone of this conversation with your eyes to heaven emojie to my post. I rarely post these days and wouldn't feel I do so in an arrogant way though I will debate a point and do respect the opinions of others, especially when they show the same respect unlike yourself.


You haven't made a strong argument supporting your position.


U21 IC was well run? All IC competitions are well run as far as I can see.


Winning mentality being developed through knock out competition, sorry there's nothing to support that and even if it could the old GAA formats only helped the biggest and best. Leitrim will rarely win anything under any format but at least group formats give the players games. This is especially imp[ortant at underage U20 and below where games and group training can develop players, not 3 moths of training for one game.


All development is mainly done up to U18 but transforming them into effective adult players is often done from 18 to 22/23. Again, one IC game per year does not help this.





Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 01, 2018, 07:44:28 PM
Excuse me Zulu but you set the tone all by yourself with that bizarre view that "its a very good rule" and with your past views on this topic before i was not surprised.

It doesn't matter how often you post on here however without realizing it or not you have no respect for other opinions when you do post/debate on here and you stubbornly won't heed any argument to go against your own view. I believe i have made a strong argument supporting my position if you don't agree with that then fine move on but don't be giving this patronizing nonsense that you respect opinions when you clearly don't.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 07:55:06 PM
So you lecture me about respecting others opinions but engage with my post by using an eyes to heaven emoji? I gave my opinion and didn't disrespect other views. I've now supported my opinion - it is a good rule because it prevents players representing multiple teams which is one of the biggest problems we've had in the GAA. Small numbers representing multiple teams has made a mess of club fixtures and over burdened talented players. If Sligo or Carlow have to make a tougher decision than Dublin to address this then so be it. We can't have it every way.

I don't think I disrespect others but if I have, I apologise, it's not my intention. I will debate my point and sometimes that does lead to dismissing the more illogical views but I agree that debates here should be done with respect for other views and if I don't do that then it's something I'll try to do in the future.

Mind you, you're still entirely wrong about this!


Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 01, 2018, 08:15:22 PM
Apology accepted and i believe nothing i said was wrong.

Once again with that final sentence you prove you can't help yourself almost robotic like responses from you at this stage. Do try harder if not you will deserve another one of these in future  ::)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 01, 2018, 08:17:59 PM
Could ye open yer own feckin thread and leave the Connacht Championships alone.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 01, 2018, 08:43:39 PM
Could ye open yer own feckin thread and leave the Connacht Championships alone.

If you want to be a mod you should offer your services. Something tells me you just like shouting from the back of the bus, though.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 08:49:20 PM
All development is mainly done up to U18 but transforming them into effective adult players is often done from 18 to 22/23. Again, one IC game per year does not help this.
Most good county minor players in the past had the opportunity to develop for 3 full years at U21 level and you only have to look at the current Sligo and Roscommon senior teams to see how many have come from decent U21 teams.
 
Right now at U20 level we have a situation where good players 18 to 20 are thrown straight into senior setups to see if their can hold their own at that level or for the lesser counties they have no choice but to play their best U20s at senior level because they are light on numbers. One scenario you could have with U20 player is where he plays just one minute of action for his senior team while his U20 team may have won or got far in the U20 championship if he was allowed to play for them. I can't believe how anyone thinks so be it with that when it would be better to play the championship at more suitable time and where all U20s can play.

Next year The U20 grade replaces the U21 grade in hurling. In contrast to football, though, U20 hurlers will be eligible to play both U20 and senior hurling for their county.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 01, 2018, 08:57:02 PM
Apology accepted and i believe nothing i said was wrong.

Once again with that final sentence you prove you can't help yourself almost robotic like responses from you at this stage. Do try harder if not you will deserve another one of these in future  ::)

I didn’t apologise to you and the last sentence was a joke but should have known you wouldn’t get that. As Rossfan says, it’s a Connacht championship thread so I’ll leave it there.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 01, 2018, 11:12:36 PM
Yeah get A room lads if ye want to keep the verbals going
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 01, 2018, 11:15:27 PM
Yeah get A room lads if ye want to keep the verbals going
A room with him? no thanks.


I didn’t apologise to you and the last sentence was a joke but should have known you wouldn’t get that. As Rossfan says, it’s a Connacht championship thread so I’ll leave it there.
I was leaving it there about 2 or 3 posts back. A self conscious apology it was so. You do jokes now? well thats something different from you and yes you certainly should have known as i don't get half of your bizarre posts.

Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2018, 07:14:21 PM
Sligo off to a good start 15 mins played Roscommon 0-2 Sligo 2-1
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2018, 07:24:03 PM
Level game Roscommon 1-4 Sligo 2-1 25 mins gone.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: SLIGONIAN on June 02, 2018, 07:36:44 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2018, 07:42:26 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us
A wasteful Sligo team apart from Red OG. The winner of this game will need to improve big time to trouble Galway next.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 02, 2018, 07:42:35 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
40 mins gone. Roscommon 1-9 Sligo 2-2
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2018, 08:08:00 PM
Game gone totally away from Sligo 2nd half. Roscommon 3-10 Sligo 2-5 with about 10 mins to play.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mano on June 02, 2018, 08:37:26 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Reality is both teams are missing numerous players because of unavailability, injury and Leaving Cert. Sligo missing 4 due to senior and 3 other starters due to Leaving Cert. Im sure Ross are similarly affected. Stronger counties will have better replacements. A once good competition has been destroyed by GAA officialdom.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 02, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Reality is both teams are missing numerous players because of unavailability, injury and Leaving Cert. Sligo missing 4 due to senior and 3 other starters due to Leaving Cert. Im sure Ross are similarly affected. Stronger counties will have better replacements. A once good competition has been destroyed by GAA officialdom.

Well it didn’t help that Cake put three of his best players on the bench. Once Ruane and Murphy were brought on we were a far better side and there was only going to be one result. Sligo got to 2-01 and despite kicking away something in the region of fifteen points didn’t score for about 30 minutes in the match.

Still not good enough to bother Galway without a truly special performance, though.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mano on June 02, 2018, 09:08:04 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Reality is both teams are missing numerous players because of unavailability, injury and Leaving Cert. Sligo missing 4 due to senior and 3 other starters due to Leaving Cert. Im sure Ross are similarly affected. Stronger counties will have better replacements. A once good competition has been destroyed by GAA officialdom.

Well it didn’t help that Cake put three of his best players on the bench. Once Ruane and Murphy were brought on we were a far better side. Sligo got to 2-01 and despite kicking away something in the region of fifteen points didn’t score for about 30 minutes in the match.

Still not good enough to bother Galway without a truly special performance, though.
I'm sure he had a reason for putting them on the bench. 3 Sligo lads, one was on the bench and 2 others not in the 24 for missing training last weekend.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 02, 2018, 10:13:59 PM
Ros up a 1pt, we had goal disallowed and hit post to go 9 up, hit loads of wides, need to be more accurate second half but if we had carrabine, o Connor and gaughan we would of destroyed this roscommon team , Red og with 2-1 for us

Sligo are utterly pathetic. The problem is so are we on the evidence of that half. One of the worst halves of football I’ve seen in a long time. They’re all young lads but either team is going to get well beaten next weekend, the amount of wides and basic errors in perfect conditions is something to behold.

Also, we’re missing at least three of our best players from this group too so whatever about your loses, we have just as many.
Reality is both teams are missing numerous players because of unavailability, injury and Leaving Cert. Sligo missing 4 due to senior and 3 other starters due to Leaving Cert. Im sure Ross are similarly affected. Stronger counties will have better replacements. A once good competition has been destroyed by GAA officialdom.
Absolutely and a real shame this has been allowed to happen.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 02, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
We won but should have been dead and buried after 20 minutes. Much improved all round 2nd half but how much of that was down to Sligo being demoralised after there awful wides in the first.
Anyway off to Tuam next week where we'll be lucky to keep the ball kicked out to Galway.
Only thing we have going for us is a Championship game under the belt.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2018, 11:30:52 AM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.

Mayo seniors playing in Limerick might have something to do with the timings.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2018, 03:01:31 PM
I do forget all about them oul early round Qualifier thingys ;D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 06, 2018, 04:41:54 PM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.
Is there a need to host the game there? surely a smaller ground in Mayo would take whatever crowd turns up and maybe play it closer to Leitrim.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2018, 05:00:08 PM
I suppose if lads make a County team they deserve a game in the main stadium.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2018, 05:58:46 PM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.
Is there a need to host the game there? surely a smaller ground in Mayo would take whatever crowd turns up and maybe play it closer to Leitrim.

The Hyde is free.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 06, 2018, 08:48:11 PM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.
Is there a need to host the game there? surely a smaller ground in Mayo would take whatever crowd turns up and maybe play it closer to Leitrim.

Now that's not going to help with paying off the loan is it? Same sh*te with games at the latter end of the county championship, a few thousand rattling around in there and no atmosphere   >:(
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 06, 2018, 10:39:12 PM
I see one of Galway's best minors of recent years if not the best, Evan Murphy, is not on the U-20 panel this year. Heard a rumour he had left it alright. Anyone know the story there?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 06, 2018, 10:46:44 PM
I see one of Galway's best minors of recent years if not the best, Evan Murphy, is not on the U-20 panel this year. Heard a rumour he had left it alright. Anyone know the story there?
Out with a hamstring injury i have been told.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2018, 11:59:24 PM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.
Is there a need to host the game there? surely a smaller ground in Mayo would take whatever crowd turns up and maybe play it closer to Leitrim.

Now that's not going to help with paying off the loan is it? Same sh*te with games at the latter end of the county championship, a few thousand rattling around in there and no atmosphere   >:(

I never understood the craic with obsessing over a game being played in the main county ground. The senior county finals we’ve staged in Kiltoom had so much more atmosphere than the ones at the Hyde, and with the CB wanting to make the new pitch seem worthwhile even junior and immediate finals will end up being played in the Hyde, which is honestly madness.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 07, 2018, 12:07:46 AM
Off batin' the Kiltoom drum again ::)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 07, 2018, 02:03:50 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ballinaman on June 07, 2018, 02:54:37 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Strong midfield !
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2018, 03:01:19 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Strong midfield !
Few stronger midfield pairings at U20 level this year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on June 07, 2018, 03:22:24 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Strong midfield !
Few stronger midfield pairings at U20 level this year.
Ryan Forde centre back is a strange one.
Would be more noted as a forward.
A very pacey player.
John Daly has been injury plagued over the past number of years. Hopefully he gets an injury free run at it.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 07, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Strong midfield !
Few stronger midfield pairings at U20 level this year.
Ryan Forde centre back is a strange one.
Would be more noted as a forward.
A very pacey player.
John Daly has been injury plagued over the past number of years. Hopefully he gets an injury free run at it.

I think Ernan McDonagh (Like Evan Murphy) is injured otherwise he'd be at centre-back. Forde more known as a forward I think alright. They could have played Mulkerrin at centre-back as he plays for the club there but he's pretty much been full-back all through the age grades for Galway.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 07, 2018, 04:30:40 PM
U20 semi finals on Saturday next
Rhubarbs v Laythrum 1.30 in Castlebar
Herrins v Ros 4pm in Tuam.
I presume the staggered times is to allow JP and McGovern to attend both?
Hard to see anything other than victories for Galway and Mayowestros.
Is there a need to host the game there? surely a smaller ground in Mayo would take whatever crowd turns up and maybe play it closer to Leitrim.

Now that's not going to help with paying off the loan is it? Same sh*te with games at the latter end of the county championship, a few thousand rattling around in there and no atmosphere   >:(
Agreed, the obsession with putting every possible games into the county ground like McHale or Markievicz is ridiculous. Plenty of other decent venues in most counties capable of hosting such ties.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Manning18 on June 07, 2018, 04:48:48 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Strong midfield !
Few stronger midfield pairings at U20 level this year.
Ryan Forde centre back is a strange one.
Would be more noted as a forward.
A very pacey player.
John Daly has been injury plagued over the past number of years. Hopefully he gets an injury free run at it.

I think Ernan McDonagh (Like Evan Murphy) is injured otherwise he'd be at centre-back. Forde more known as a forward I think alright. They could have played Mulkerrin at centre-back as he plays for the club there but he's pretty much been full-back all through the age grades for Galway.

The hope is really to find one rock solid centre back from this side going forward into senior, whether it be Mulkerrin or John Daly or anyone else. Cein Darcy can start to force his way into whats now a crowded looking midfield sector from next year. Really think Galway should be hitting their best potential level in 2-3 years times with only Bradshaw and Conroy as potential age causalities going forward. Comer, Walsh & Burke should still be in their prime, SAC, Cooke, & Mike Daly should be strong established players down the spine with a few of these younger guys from this team coming though. Who knows, could even have McDaid back (although i wish him well) or Evan Murphy playing at that stage. Lot of roads to travel first and it's gone wrong before but it's a bright situation currently
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 07, 2018, 05:00:42 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 07, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
Some good players out injured but as you can imagine with their pick from Connacht minor winning teams its a very strong Galway U20 team.


1. Oran Burke (Corofin)
2. Sean Fitzgerald (Barna)
3. Sean Mulkerrins (Oileain Arainn)
4. Conor Campbell (Claregalway)
5. Jack Glynn (Claregalway)
6. Ryan Forde (Annaghdown)
7. Colin Murray (Mountbellew Moylough)
8. Cein Darcy (Caherlistrane)
9. John Daly (Mountbellew Moylough)
10. Darragh Silke (Corofin)
11. Lorcan Molloy (Menlough)
12. Finian O’Laoi (An Spideal)
13. Rob Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
14. Liam Costello (Milltown)
15. Dessie Conneely (Moycullen)
Strong midfield !
Few stronger midfield pairings at U20 level this year.
Ryan Forde centre back is a strange one.
Would be more noted as a forward.
A very pacey player.
John Daly has been injury plagued over the past number of years. Hopefully he gets an injury free run at it.

I think Ernan McDonagh (Like Evan Murphy) is injured otherwise he'd be at centre-back. Forde more known as a forward I think alright. They could have played Mulkerrin at centre-back as he plays for the club there but he's pretty much been full-back all through the age grades for Galway.

The hope is really to find one rock solid centre back from this side going forward into senior, whether it be Mulkerrin or John Daly or anyone else. Cein Darcy can start to force his way into whats now a crowded looking midfield sector from next year. Really think Galway should be hitting their best potential level in 2-3 years times with only Bradshaw and Conroy as potential age causalities going forward. Comer, Walsh & Burke should still be in their prime, SAC, Cooke, & Mike Daly should be strong established players down the spine with a few of these younger guys from this team coming though. Who knows, could even have McDaid back (although i wish him well) or Evan Murphy playing at that stage. Lot of roads to travel first and it's gone wrong before but it's a bright situation currently

We already have a man that would be a top class CHB and one of the best footballers in the country if he lined out with Galway. Unfortunately Daithi Burke is the best hurling FB in the country instead. The other lad we need there, who is another serious bit of stuff, is in Australia and the very best of luck to him there, you couldn't begrudge anyone a shot at a professional sporting career.
A HB line of McDaid - Burke - (and on current form) Kelly would make the Galway a far, far more formidable prospect.
Instead I fear that the Galway HB line is an accident waiting to happen that will sink us at some point this summer.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 07, 2018, 07:45:44 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 07, 2018, 07:47:01 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.

Those red cheeks take at least five years off the age he looks.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on June 07, 2018, 08:32:35 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.

Sean Kelly's display against Mayo and Sligo has cemented Gary's place on the bench you'd think, Bradshaw seems to do 50, 55 minutes and then he's goosed, this is probably our weakest line, if we had Daithí Burke, McDaid and Dylan Wall available it could be one of our strongest. Anyway, swings and roundabouts, we don't have them. I can see Cathal Sweeney getting a serious roasting some day though.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on June 07, 2018, 08:35:34 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.

Sean Kelly's display against Mayo and Sligo has cemented Gary's place on the bench you'd think, Bradshaw seems to do 50, 55 minutes and then he's goosed, this is probably our weakest line, if we had Daithí Burke, McDaid and Dylan Wall available it could be one of our strongest. Anyway, swings and roundabouts, we don't have them. I can see Cathal Sweeney getting a serious roasting some day though.
A line of Kelly Bradshaw & Heaney would do fine for me.
Brad having a good season overall up to now.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2018, 08:48:05 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.

Sean Kelly's display against Mayo and Sligo has cemented Gary's place on the bench you'd think, Bradshaw seems to do 50, 55 minutes and then he's goosed, this is probably our weakest line, if we had Daithí Burke, McDaid and Dylan Wall available it could be one of our strongest. Anyway, swings and roundabouts, we don't have them. I can see Cathal Sweeney getting a serious roasting some day though.
A line of Kelly Bradshaw & Heaney would do fine for me.
Brad having a good season overall up to now.
Would be a surprise if Kevin Walsh drops Sweeney from his half back line and isn't Heaney playing a type of sweeper role?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on June 07, 2018, 08:53:06 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.

Sean Kelly's display against Mayo and Sligo has cemented Gary's place on the bench you'd think, Bradshaw seems to do 50, 55 minutes and then he's goosed, this is probably our weakest line, if we had Daithí Burke, McDaid and Dylan Wall available it could be one of our strongest. Anyway, swings and roundabouts, we don't have them. I can see Cathal Sweeney getting a serious roasting some day though.
A line of Kelly Bradshaw & Heaney would do fine for me.
Brad having a good season overall up to now.
Would be a surprise if Kevin Walsh drops Sweeney from his half back line and isn't Heaney playing a type of sweeper role?
It won’t happen but would be my preference.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on June 07, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
Think Bradshaw will be gone after June 17th persoonally

He's been playing fairly well of late to be fair but he's obviously up there in age now. He's probably going to be phased out over the next 18 months or so. O'Donnell seems to have lost his place already.

Sean Kelly's display against Mayo and Sligo has cemented Gary's place on the bench you'd think, Bradshaw seems to do 50, 55 minutes and then he's goosed, this is probably our weakest line, if we had Daithí Burke, McDaid and Dylan Wall available it could be one of our strongest. Anyway, swings and roundabouts, we don't have them. I can see Cathal Sweeney getting a serious roasting some day though.
A line of Kelly Bradshaw & Heaney would do fine for me.
Brad having a good season overall up to now.
Would be a surprise if Kevin Walsh drops Sweeney from his half back line and isn't Heaney playing a type of sweeper role?
It won’t happen but would be my preference.

Definitely won't happen, even Patrick got a run against Sligo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 08, 2018, 01:29:52 PM
3 changes to the Ros starting 15 as Lorcan Daly, Keith Murphy and Dylan Ruane replace Galvin,  Lawless and Duff.
Stronger team but I fear Galway will be too good for them.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 08, 2018, 10:06:30 PM
Mayo U20 team

1. Patrick O Malley - Westport
2. Rory Brickenden - Westport
3. Brian O Malley - Westport
4. John Cunnane - Ballyhaunis
5. Paul Lambert - Westport
6. Oisin Mullin  - Kilmaine
7. Cathal Horan - Kilmovee
8. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
9. Evan O Brien - Ballinrobe
10. Nathan Moran - Hollymount/Carramore
11. Ryan O Donoghue - Belmullet, Captain
12. Oisin McLoughlin - Westport
13. John Gallagher - Mayo Gaels
14. Ross Egan - Aghamore
15. Tommy Conroy - The Neale

1.Aaron Brady - Elphin
2.Liam Cregg - Michael Glaveys
3. Luke Mollahan - Elphin
4. Lorcan Daly - Padraig Pearses
5. Aidan Dowd - Western Gaels
6. Evan Flynn - Tulsk
7. Darren Nerney - St Faithleachs
8. Conor Shanagher - Kilbride
9. Eddie Nolan - St Brigids
10. Keith Murphy - Strokestown
11. David McManus - Clann na nGael
12. Dylan Ruane - Micheal Glaveys
13. Paul Carey - Padraig Pearses
14. Cian McKeon - Boyle
15. Brian Derwin - St Brigids

I don't see any Leitrim team named yet.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 09, 2018, 12:00:54 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 12:56:22 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Is this Mayo team expected to be up to much, though?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 09, 2018, 01:03:47 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Is this Mayo team expected to be up to much, though?

Perhaps not but it means westport gave some of the best young talent in the county
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: spuds on June 09, 2018, 06:33:58 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Whatever about Horan coming in, Holmes is living in Westport and has his lads playing with the club. Westport going very well at underage the last 10 years or so and this from a town that was always seen as a soccer stronghold. 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Manning18 on June 09, 2018, 07:57:53 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Whatever about Horan coming in, Holmes is living in Westport and has his lads playing with the club. Westport going very well at underage the last 10 years or so and this from a town that was always seen as a soccer stronghold.

Soccer stronghold In Mayo terms. There's not even a semblance of a soccer stronghold in Mayo nationally though. This current Mayo team and the fanfare around them will almost certainly ensure Mayo remains one of the most uniquely one sport counties going, like KK with hurling or Wicklow with Rugby
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: spuds on June 09, 2018, 08:18:21 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Whatever about Horan coming in, Holmes is living in Westport and has his lads playing with the club. Westport going very well at underage the last 10 years or so and this from a town that was always seen as a soccer stronghold.

Soccer stronghold In Mayo terms. There's not even a semblance of a soccer stronghold in Mayo nationally though. This current Mayo team and the fanfare around them will almost certainly ensure Mayo remains one of the most uniquely one sport counties going, like KK with hurling or Wicklow with Rugby

What are you trying to say here?

Westport won a FAI junior cup in mid noughties, was a soccer first town for most young lads as I was growing up and few players getting on county underage teams etc. As Mayo's third largest town I can only recall James Gill and Charlie Lambert making county teams. Tomás Tierney doesn't count.  :)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 09, 2018, 09:08:00 AM
Fair dues to those who rescued Westport from what was a gas desert, 5 starters on a championship is normally the reserve  of clubs in county towns
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on June 09, 2018, 09:20:14 AM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Whatever about Horan coming in, Holmes is living in Westport and has his lads playing with the club. Westport going very well at underage the last 10 years or so and this from a town that was always seen as a soccer stronghold.

Soccer stronghold In Mayo terms. There's not even a semblance of a soccer stronghold in Mayo nationally though. This current Mayo team and the fanfare around them will almost certainly ensure Mayo remains one of the most uniquely one sport counties going, like KK with hurling or Wicklow with Rugby

What are you trying to say here?

Westport won a FAI junior cup in mid noughties, was a soccer first town for most young lads as I was growing up and few players getting on county underage teams etc. As Mayo's third largest town I can only recall James Gill and Charlie Lambert making county teams. Tomás Tierney doesn't count.  :)
You could add Mick Higgins and Conor Dever to that list.  Brian Kilkenny and Martin Connolly would be in the same boat as Tierney.  Connolly would however get a lot of credit locally for all the work he would be putting into Gaelic Football at Rice College for the best part of 30 years. 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2018, 09:49:37 AM
Best of luck to the Mayo u20s later today. Interesting no Claremorris player named to start.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 12:23:03 PM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Whatever about Horan coming in, Holmes is living in Westport and has his lads playing with the club. Westport going very well at underage the last 10 years or so and this from a town that was always seen as a soccer stronghold.

Soccer stronghold In Mayo terms. There's not even a semblance of a soccer stronghold in Mayo nationally though. This current Mayo team and the fanfare around them will almost certainly ensure Mayo remains one of the most uniquely one sport counties going, like KK with hurling or Wicklow with Rugby

You don't know much about Wesport to say this. It'd be like typing that Toreen is a hurling stronghold only in Mayo terms with a straight face, or that Four Roads was here. Boyle has suffered from much the same problems because of soccer as Wesport has.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 01:51:22 PM
20 mins gone Mayo 1-6 Leitrim 1-0
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 09, 2018, 02:00:40 PM
5 westport starters, no wonder Holmes & horan are involved there

Whatever about Horan coming in, Holmes is living in Westport and has his lads playing with the club. Westport going very well at underage the last 10 years or so and this from a town that was always seen as a soccer stronghold.

Soccer stronghold In Mayo terms. There's not even a semblance of a soccer stronghold in Mayo nationally though. This current Mayo team and the fanfare around them will almost certainly ensure Mayo remains one of the most uniquely one sport counties going, like KK with hurling or Wicklow with Rugby

You don't know much about Wesport to say this. It'd be like typing that Toreen is a hurling stronghold only in Mayo terms with a straight face, or that Four Roads was here. Boyle has suffered from much the same problems because of soccer as Wesport has.

A lot lot more county men came from Boyle than Westport in fairness
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 02:01:10 PM
Mayo 1-11 Leitrim 1-1 no Mayo wide yet a rare sight from any mayo team.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 02:05:55 PM
HT Mayo 1-12 Leitrim 1-1.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 02:15:44 PM
I hope they are using this one as a training session for playing Roscommon..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 02:55:05 PM
Just the two scores for Leitrim 2nd half who played most of that half with 14 men. Leitrim goal keeper in top form saved a number of goal opportunities including a penalty.. FT Mayo 1-24 Leitrim 1-3.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2018, 03:14:52 PM
Hope we get a bit closer to Galway  :o
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: galwayman on June 09, 2018, 04:14:19 PM
Galway 4-1 up after 10 minutes.
But down to 14 players. Straight red card.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 09, 2018, 04:16:48 PM
Galway 4-1 up after 10 minutes.
But down to 14 players. Straight red card.

O'Laoi straight red. Up against it now with only 14 for that long.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 04:41:51 PM
Galway 4-1 up after 10 minutes.
But down to 14 players. Straight red card.

Level at the half. This is the crack of light the lads would have been hoping for. Make it count.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 04:43:20 PM
Galway 0-5 Roscommon 0-5 at half time. Roscommon have lost their midfielder to injury who was MOTM in their last game.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 05:02:29 PM
Gwan Ruane ya big West Ros lump ya. Goal. Ros up 1-06 to 0-07.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 05:16:15 PM
Ros up 1-10 to 0-09 with 7 to play. C’monnnnn.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 05:19:48 PM
The Galway man with Willie today is nearly in tears. Not part of the plan. Ros five up with four minutes left. Galway down to 13 Roscommon 14.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 09, 2018, 05:29:50 PM
O'Laoi's teammates won't want to see him for a while I'd say. Straight red card after 10 minutes when you are on top and leading by 3. Very likely cost his team the game. I remember something similiar happening with Michael Daly against Mayo a few years ago but that was much closer to half-time and 2 yellows rather than a straight red.

That said I'll wait until I see it though because have heard from a couple of people since that it should have been a yellow for a push in the chest rather than a red for a strike. Either way disappointing end for a Galway side whom with a full compliment of players would defnitely have had designs on maybe reaching the final again this year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 05:41:40 PM
Super result for the rossies were 9/2 before the game well done to them.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 09, 2018, 05:46:55 PM
Successful Roscommon u21 teams always had an Elphin keeper.... pat Reynolds rip 1966 and Brendan Kenny 1978.......
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 05:50:45 PM
From what I saw in the first half last week this result is one of the most amazing in our recent underage history. Just an incredible level of grit and belief shown to go to Tuam and beat that Galway side. Cake pulled off both the ridiculous and the magnificent at underage himself and we’ve got a little bit of both already as manager.

What’s to stop them doing it again at home?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 09, 2018, 05:54:35 PM
Much of a crowd there syferus
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 05:57:22 PM
Much of a crowd there syferus

I missed the Luas listening to Willie so I don’t know, but over on Stolen Sheep they said it was a poor crowd. The GAA seems to be getting its wish of destroying this grade.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on June 09, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
O'Laoi's teammates won't want to see him for a while I'd say. Straight red card after 10 minutes when you are on top and leading by 3. Very likely cost his team the game. I remember something similiar happening with Michael Daly against Mayo a few years ago but that was much closer to half-time and 2 yellows rather than a straight red.

That said I'll wait until I see it though because have heard from a couple of people since that it should have been a yellow for a push in the chest rather than a red for a strike. Either way disappointing end for a Galway side whom with a full compliment of players would defnitely have had designs on maybe reaching the final again this year.

Along with Robert Finnerty, discipline and finishing let them down big time today.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ballinaman on June 09, 2018, 07:54:43 PM
Big blow for Galway. Didn't see that coming.
Roscommon surely red hot favourites, 2 games under belt and at home.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2018, 09:27:08 PM
Great unexpected. win by our ladeens today.
Unfortunately had to work so coukdnt make Tuam at that silly time.
Now that the Rhus are in the Final will the CC discover that the recent improvements to the Hyde mean that the licensed capacity will go up 3 or 4,000. ::)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 10:24:45 PM
Big blow for Galway. Didn't see that coming.
Roscommon surely red hot favourites, 2 games under belt and at home.

You can blow as much smoke up our arses are you like because our lads set fire to the script tonight. Fûcking heroes.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on June 09, 2018, 10:37:11 PM
Big blow for Galway. Didn't see that coming.
Roscommon surely red hot favourites, 2 games under belt and at home.

You can blow as much smoke up our arses are you like because our lads set fire to the script tonight. Fûcking heroes.

nobody wants to go near your arse....
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 09, 2018, 11:19:21 PM
Today's u20 match reminded me of recent Galway v mayo encounters in that the better team on paper lost due to indiscipline.
the big difference is no qualifier route to redeem themselves.
well done to roscommon,should be a good final and more pressure on the limited tickets!😁
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2018, 11:48:39 PM
http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-sport/roscommon-u-20s-make-dr-hyde-park-decider/

Cake obviously passed the managers Course -he  has the oul "lookit"

Best wishes for a speedy recovery to poor Conor Shanagher.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 10, 2018, 02:33:26 AM
Today's u20 match reminded me of recent Galway v mayo encounters in that the better team on paper lost due to indiscipline.
the big difference is no qualifier route to redeem themselves.
well done to roscommon,should be a good final and more pressure on the limited tickets!😁

The best team won and won well. The signs were there after the struggle many of these lads had in Salthill last year. Coaching beat hype. Cake’s legend grows..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2018, 07:53:36 AM
Today's u20 match reminded me of recent Galway v mayo encounters in that the better team on paper lost due to indiscipline.
the big difference is no qualifier route to redeem themselves.
well done to roscommon,should be a good final and more pressure on the limited tickets!😁

The best team won and won well. The signs were there after the struggle many of these lads had in Salthill last year. Coaching beat hype. Cake’s legend grows..
You said you weren't at it
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 10, 2018, 10:21:02 AM
Today's u20 match reminded me of recent Galway v mayo encounters in that the better team on paper lost due to indiscipline.
the big difference is no qualifier route to redeem themselves.
well done to roscommon,should be a good final and more pressure on the limited tickets!😁

The best team won and won well. The signs were there after the struggle many of these lads had in Salthill last year. Coaching beat hype. Cake’s legend grows..
You said you weren't at it
???
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: larryin89 on June 10, 2018, 10:41:04 AM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 10:55:28 AM
Today's u20 match reminded me of recent Galway v mayo encounters in that the better team on paper lost due to indiscipline.
the big difference is no qualifier route to redeem themselves.
well done to roscommon,should be a good final and more pressure on the limited tickets!😁

The best team won and won well. The signs were there after the struggle many of these lads had in Salthill last year. Coaching beat hype. Cake’s legend grows..
You said you weren't at it

Syfīn isn't one for letting facts get in the way of his view of the world  :D ;D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 10, 2018, 11:14:30 AM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

Big blow for Galway. Didn't see that coming.
Roscommon surely red hot favourites, 2 games under belt and at home.

I would tend to agree with these views. Not:

Quote
You can blow as much smoke up our arses are you like because our lads set fire to the script tonight. Fûcking heroes
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 11:27:51 AM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 12:29:27 PM
Good.
Hope the management and players are of similar view.
AI Semis are down for weekend of 14th/15th July with the Final weekend 4th/5th August.
The Rhubarbs will have a lot of travelling to do both those weekends.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 13, 2018, 01:03:23 PM
What odds were Roscommon before the game?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 13, 2018, 01:08:13 PM
It was Galway 1/5 and Ros 9/2.
Rhubarbs are bookies favourites for the Final.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 13, 2018, 01:13:00 PM
It was Galway 1/5 and Ros 9/2.
Rhubarbs are bookies favourites for the Final.

crikey, knew Galway were hot favourites but not to that extent.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: spuds on June 13, 2018, 01:42:45 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 13, 2018, 01:52:43 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Mayo are favourites for Sundays final and their All Ireland odds have gone from 12/1 to now 7/1 so plenty of punters are laying their hard earned cash on Mayo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ballinaman on June 13, 2018, 02:04:58 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Mayo are favourites for Sundays final and their All Ireland odds have gone from 12/1 to now 7/1 so plenty of punters are laying their hard earned cash on Mayo.
I find that hard to believe. Surely Cakes forward roll onto the pitch in celebration in Tuam gives an indication of his confidence? Mentioned All Ireland semi final in post match interview too...
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 02:28:34 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Mayo are favourites for Sundays final and their All Ireland odds have gone from 12/1 to now 7/1 so plenty of punters are laying their hard earned cash on Mayo.
I find that hard to believe. Surely Cakes forward roll onto the pitch in celebration in Tuam gives an indication of his confidence? Mentioned All Ireland semi final in post match interview too...

He also mentioned we ended up with a lot of 18 year-olds on the field by the end of the match, that five of our best players (including the star forward of the Inter AI Club finalists) are still sitting their Leaving Cert and aren’t avaialble, that Ciaran Lennon the starting senior FF has a broken thumb, that our starting corner back is our due to a straight red and our best midfielder is likely out due to the cumulative effects of multiple concussions. Did he mention this is also our third championship match in 15 days?

The usual nonsense on GAABoard trying to pretend the opposition is overconfident, as if it grants any advantage when it’s verfiably not the case.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on June 13, 2018, 02:32:09 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Mayo are favourites for Sundays final and their All Ireland odds have gone from 12/1 to now 7/1 so plenty of punters are laying their hard earned cash on Mayo.
I find that hard to believe. Surely Cakes forward roll onto the pitch in celebration in Tuam gives an indication of his confidence? Mentioned All Ireland semi final in post match interview too...

He also mentioned we ended up with a lot of 18 year-olds on the field by the end of the match, that five of our best players (including the star forward of the Inter AI Club finalists) are still sitting their Leaving Cert and aren’t avaialble, that Ciaran Lennon the starting senior FF has a broken thumb, that our starting corner back is our due to a straight red and our best midfielder is likely out due to the cumulative effects of multiple concussions. Did he mention this is also our third championship match in 15 days?

The usual nonsense on GAABoard trying to pretend the opposition is overconfident, as if it grants any advantage when it’s verfiably not the case.

The usual nonsense on GAABoard trying to play the poor mouth... 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 02:36:06 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Mayo are favourites for Sundays final and their All Ireland odds have gone from 12/1 to now 7/1 so plenty of punters are laying their hard earned cash on Mayo.
I find that hard to believe. Surely Cakes forward roll onto the pitch in celebration in Tuam gives an indication of his confidence? Mentioned All Ireland semi final in post match interview too...

He also mentioned we ended up with a lot of 18 year-olds on the field by the end of the match, that five of our best players (including the star forward of the Inter AI Club finalists) are still sitting their Leaving Cert and aren’t avaialble, that Ciaran Lennon the starting senior FF has a broken thumb, that our starting corner back is our due to a straight red and our best midfielder is likely out due to the cumulative effects of multiple concussions. Did he mention this is also our third championship match in 15 days?

The usual nonsense on GAABoard trying to pretend the opposition is overconfident, as if it grants any advantage when it’s verfiably not the case.

The usual nonsense on GAABoard trying to play the poor mouth...

Facts aren’t ‘poor mouth’, we’re fully capable of beating what is far from a heralded Mayo side. But to pretend this team or management are overconfident is a little insulting.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ballinaman on June 13, 2018, 02:38:23 PM
Mayo are very average would expect ros to win after beating a fancied Galway

With Galway taken out a few lads over on Mayogaablog are taking this Mayo team up as potential All Ireland winners its almost like they have won Connacht already.
Few lads on that site more than a tad excitable, hardly the opinion of a majority of level headed punters.
Mayo are favourites for Sundays final and their All Ireland odds have gone from 12/1 to now 7/1 so plenty of punters are laying their hard earned cash on Mayo.
I find that hard to believe. Surely Cakes forward roll onto the pitch in celebration in Tuam gives an indication of his confidence? Mentioned All Ireland semi final in post match interview too...

He also mentioned we ended up with a lot of 18 year-olds on the field by the end of the match, that five of our best players (including the star forward of the Inter AI Club finalists) are still sitting their Leaving Cert and aren’t avaialble, that Ciaran Lennon the starting senior FF has a broken thumb, that our starting corner back is our due to a straight red and our best midfielder is likely out due to the cumulative effects of multiple concussions. Did he mention this is also our third championship match in 15 days?

The usual nonsense on GAABoard trying to pretend the opposition is overconfident, as if it grants any advantage when it’s verfiably not the case.
Ah right, didn’t know that. I take it back.  Ye are fcuked so.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 13, 2018, 03:21:14 PM
Ros 1/1, Rhus 8/11.
Senior Ros 5/2 Herrins 4/9.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Hound on June 13, 2018, 04:57:19 PM
Ros 1/1, Rhus 8/11.
Senior Ros 5/2 Herrins 4/9.
So 6/1 for the Ros double. Anyone tempted?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 05:21:08 PM
Ros 1/1, Rhus 8/11.
Senior Ros 5/2 Herrins 4/9.
So 6/1 for the Ros double. Anyone tempted?
Its tempting, Roscommon U20s having to play 3 times in 3 weeks could be their downfall however as players at that age don't have the conditioning work done. Why is the Connacht championship ran off in a short space of time? the All Ireland semi finals aren't on until mid July.


Thanks Syferus for spotting the small typo.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 05:24:51 PM
Ros 1/1, Rhus 8/11.
Senior Ros 5/2 Herrins 4/9.
So 6/1 for the Ros double. Anyone tempted?
Its tempting, Roscommon U20s having to play 3 times in 3 days could be their downfall however as players at that age don't have the conditioning work done. Why is the Connacht championship ran off in a short space of time? the All Ireland semi finals aren't on until mid July.

Jesus JP is really trying to do us in..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 13, 2018, 06:33:24 PM
They wanted a curtain raiser but that could have been a semi final.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 15, 2018, 01:08:07 PM
Roscommon U20 team. Missing some key players due to injury and suspension it seems. 

1. Aaron Brady - Elphin
2. Damien Duff - Clann na nGael
3. Luke Mollahan - Elphin
4. Lorcan Daly - Padraig Pearses
5. Aidan Dowd - Western Gaels
6. Evan Flynn - Tulsk
7. Darren Nerney - St Faithleachs
8. David McManus - Clann na nGael
9. Eddie Nolan - St Brigids
10. Keith Murphy - Strokestown
11. Cian McKeon - Boyle
12. Dylan Ruane - Micheal Glaveys
13. Paul Carey - Padraig Pearses
14. Brian Derwin - St Brigids
15. Ciaran Sugrue - St Brigids
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 15, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
2 enforced  due to concussion and suspension.

Not sure if Liam Cregg appeal heard yet....
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 15, 2018, 02:32:35 PM
Mayo team one change with Johnny Maughan replacing Rory Brickenden in the number 2 jersey.

    Patrick O’Malley (Westport)
    Johnny Maughan (Castlebar Mitchels)
    Brian O’Malley (Westport)
    John Cunnane (Ballyhaunis)
    Paul Lambert (Westport)
    Oisín Mullin (Kilmaine)
    Cathal Horan (Kilmovee)
    Jordan Flynn (Crossmolina Deel Rovers)
    Evan O’Brien (Ballinrobe)
    Nathan Moran (Hollymount/Carramore)
    Ryan O’Donoghue (C) (Belmullet)
    Oisín McLoughlin (Westport)
    John Gallagher (Mayo Gaels)
    Ross Egan (Aghamore)
    Tommy Conroy (The Neale)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 15, 2018, 02:35:38 PM
Is Johnny Maugham encumbered with a tool of a father ????
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 15, 2018, 02:52:12 PM
I believe so.
More motivation for Cakeen :D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 15, 2018, 02:58:57 PM
Poor young lad.

I'm hopeful for this Ross team, no superstars but savage work ethic and able to deal with sticky situations in bith games to date
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 15, 2018, 03:49:23 PM
Hope the 3 games in 15 days schedule will be a help rather than a killer compared to the Rhus and their training spin.
Another argument in favour of a round robin system like in Leinster.
Anyway it is what it is and if there isn't a fatigue v freshness factor I'd be hopeful too.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 07:34:18 AM
Best of luck to the Mayo u20s later today.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 01:50:57 PM
Mayo lead 1-5 to 1-3 at half time.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: maigheo on June 17, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
Roscommon 1.05. Mayo 3.10. Ten min. to go
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: larryin89 on June 17, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
Home and hosed . Roscommon had a tough game last week , not right they had to play again  . Mayo score very false , a fresh Ros would of beaten us.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2018, 02:28:46 PM
Poor young lad.

I'm hopeful for this Ross team, no superstars but savage work ethic and able to deal with sticky situations in bith games to date

That’s a bit uncalled for, John Maughan is a gentleman

Looks like his son and comrades gave you ur answer today
3-16 to 1-6 final score
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: maigheo on June 17, 2018, 02:32:36 PM
Is Johnny Maugham encumbered with a tool of a father ????
What an idiotic comment to make.Would expect a bit more on this forum than that.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 02:37:06 PM
Is Johnny Maugham encumbered with a tool of a father ????
What an idiotic comment to make.Would expect a bit more on this forum than that.
Indeed. Delighted Mayo hammered them when such asshole like comments such as this one was made.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 02:51:28 PM
Is Johnny Maugham encumbered with a tool of a father ????
What an idiotic comment to make.Would expect a bit more on this forum than that.
Indeed. Delighted Mayo hammered them when such asshole like comments such as this one was made.

If only he didn’t insult The Tanned Son, we’d have won that one.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:01:30 PM
between the rain and the delicate young primroses getting trampled, it could be a subdued atmosphere in the Hyde.
Hopefully the seniors don't wilt as easily.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
between the rain and the delicate young primroses getting trampled, it could be a subdued atmosphere in the Hyde.
Hopefully the seniors don't wilt as easily.

Did you drink whatever floor cleaner Seafoid is on or something? I know it’s a Sunday but it’s a bit early..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ballinaman on June 17, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
Hey Syferus...

You're boys took a hellva beating .
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 17, 2018, 03:58:46 PM
Hey Syferus...

You're boys took a hellva beating .

Somehow, I feel that's going to make diddly squat of a difference. Call me psychic all you like ;)
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: sans pessimism on June 17, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
Is Johnny Maugham encumbered with a tool of a father ????
What an idiotic comment to make.Would expect a bit more on this forum than that.
Indeed. Delighted Mayo hammered them when such asshole like comments such as this one was made.

If only he didn’t insult The Tanned Son, we’d have won that one.
Everuy Rossie in the country could have kissedJohn Maughans  butt aand ye still wouldn't win it
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 17, 2018, 10:13:38 PM
Poor young lad.

I'm hopeful for this Ross team, no superstars but savage work ethic and able to deal with sticky situations in bith games to date

That’s a bit uncalled for, John Maughan is a gentleman

Looks like his son and comrades gave you ur answer today
3-16 to 1-6 final score

I'm showing him as much respect as he showed us at the time of his departure from we supplementing his incomes...

But well done to a good Mayo team today with an excellentl half back line
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 17, 2018, 10:26:55 PM
Are there QFs in the U20s? Or straight to SF? Who do we play next?
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: MayoBuck on June 17, 2018, 10:33:42 PM
Are there QFs in the U20s? Or straight to SF? Who do we play next?

Straight to the semis. We play either Derry or Armagh in 4 weeks time.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 17, 2018, 10:36:17 PM
Are there QFs in the U20s? Or straight to SF? Who do we play next?

Straight to the semis. We play either Derry or Armagh in 4 weeks time.

Cheers
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2018, 09:06:52 AM
Not a lot to be said here.
We got further than expected and bang.
However we were still in it on the scoreboard till the 2nd Rhubarb goal.
Hopefully the many 18 and 19 year olds involved will give us a good platform for this grade next year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 18, 2018, 10:04:49 AM
Great result for Mayo, any standouts in that Mayo team?

I saw them as minors 2 years ago against Kildare and nobody stood out that day, realise a lot can happen in 2 years at that age. With dropping from 21's to 20's some people are expecting too much for a lad to go straight up to the senior panel although Sean Kelly from Galway was U20 last year and was only a sub in the Connacht Final yet started for the seniors yesterday and he was one of the smaller lads physically last year.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Crete Boom on June 18, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
Great result for Mayo, any standouts in that Mayo team?

I saw them as minors 2 years ago against Kildare and nobody stood out that day, realise a lot can happen in 2 years at that age. With dropping from 21's to 20's some people are expecting too much for a lad to go straight up to the senior panel although Sean Kelly from Galway was U20 last year and was only a sub in the Connacht Final yet started for the seniors yesterday and he was one of the smaller lads physically last year.

The set up at minor until this year seemed to be very ad hoc for three or four years with mangement changes and problems with coaching appointments accross the county. What has made the difference is Mike Solan has been stable at U20 level since 2016 with a good backroom team,a lot of these lads had success with St Colmans, Ballinrobe CBS, Rice College, St Geralds and Our Lady's Bellmullet at secondary school and most importantly playing at club level in a very competetive club scene in Mayo. Westport had these lads on their All Ireland wining intermediate team, Claremorris have lads playing senior club and Bellmullet have lads competeing well at intermediate which is very strong the last 5 years in Mayo.
This has probably brought alot of these lads on strong then the likes of Johnny Maughan have been winning Senior county titles Mitchels.Playing against all time great clubs like Corofin has to be more benfifcal for a young lad than an elite training squad can ever be? Alan Brogan had a good piece about how the Dublin lads were a lot more doninant at U21 in Leinster than minor due to the fact a lot of the U21's were playing in a very competitive senior club scene rather than training exclusively in development squads!!
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Hound on June 18, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
Alan Brogan had a good piece about how the Dublin lads were a lot more doninant at U21 in Leinster than minor due to the fact a lot of the U21's were playing in a very competitive senior club scene rather than training exclusively in development squads!!

Yeah, I made the very same point on another thread.
Dinny had been saying that Dubs, Kildare and Meath tend to be even enough at minor level, but Dubs tend to improve heaps up to U21 level, and of course he was alluding, as he does, that it was because of the money the GAA are giving us!

But most of the minors are dropped off the Dubs panels for a year or two before getting back into the U21, and even when on the U20/21 panel, there's not a huge amount of training done at county level (until the business end when it ramps up of course) and so the lads are left with their clubs for the most part.
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: ballinaman on June 18, 2018, 12:29:53 PM
Great result for Mayo, any standouts in that Mayo team?

I saw them as minors 2 years ago against Kildare and nobody stood out that day, realise a lot can happen in 2 years at that age. With dropping from 21's to 20's some people are expecting too much for a lad to go straight up to the senior panel although Sean Kelly from Galway was U20 last year and was only a sub in the Connacht Final yet started for the seniors yesterday and he was one of the smaller lads physically last year.


The set up at minor until this year seemed to be very ad hoc for three or four years with mangement changes and problems with coaching appointments accross the county. What has made the difference is Mike Solan has been stable at U20 level since 2016 with a good backroom team,a lot of these lads had success with St Colmans, Ballinrobe CBS, Rice College, St Geralds and Our Lady's Bellmullet at secondary school and most importantly playing at club level in a very competetive club scene in Mayo. Westport had these lads on their All Ireland wining intermediate team, Claremorris have lads playing senior club and Bellmullet have lads competeing well at intermediate which is very strong the last 5 years in Mayo.
This has probably brought alot of these lads on strong then the likes of Johnny Maughan have been winning Senior county titles Mitchels.Playing against all time great clubs like Corofin has to be more benfifcal for a young lad than an elite training squad can ever be? Alan Brogan had a good piece about how the Dublin lads were a lot more doninant at U21 in Leinster than minor due to the fact a lot of the U21's were playing in a very competitive senior club scene rather than training exclusively in development squads!!

Good few lads from Junior and Intermediate clubs on the U20 panel....Kilmovee. Kilmaine, Ballyhaunis, Belmullet, Mayo Gaels , The Neale....
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:30:38 PM
Alan Brogan had a good piece about how the Dublin lads were a lot more doninant at U21 in Leinster than minor due to the fact a lot of the U21's were playing in a very competitive senior club scene rather than training exclusively in development squads!!

Yeah, I made the very same point on another thread.
Dinny had been saying that Dubs, Kildare and Meath tend to be even enough at minor level, but Dubs tend to improve heaps up to U21 level, and of course he was alluding, as he does, that it was because of the money the GAA are giving us!

But most of the minors are dropped off the Dubs panels for a year or two before getting back into the U21, and even when on the U20/21 panel, there's not a huge amount of training done at county level (until the business end when it ramps up of course) and so the lads are left with their clubs for the most part.

Nope, Hound I have been consistent on inorganic and organic growth and have often cited Dublin's strong culture around senior inter-county football and their very strong club scene.

But let's be frank here, inter-county players are well looked after to play Dublin club as well by the clubs, although if they had to pay their GDO out of their own pocket that might cut that out as well.

We will never see the figures but does anyone no believe that Dublin spend more money on their u20s that any other county!!!
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Hound on June 18, 2018, 01:10:02 PM
Alan Brogan had a good piece about how the Dublin lads were a lot more doninant at U21 in Leinster than minor due to the fact a lot of the U21's were playing in a very competitive senior club scene rather than training exclusively in development squads!!

Yeah, I made the very same point on another thread.
Dinny had been saying that Dubs, Kildare and Meath tend to be even enough at minor level, but Dubs tend to improve heaps up to U21 level, and of course he was alluding, as he does, that it was because of the money the GAA are giving us!

But most of the minors are dropped off the Dubs panels for a year or two before getting back into the U21, and even when on the U20/21 panel, there's not a huge amount of training done at county level (until the business end when it ramps up of course) and so the lads are left with their clubs for the most part.

Nope, Hound I have been consistent on inorganic and organic growth and have often cited Dublin's strong culture around senior inter-county football and their very strong club scene.

But let's be frank here, inter-county players are well looked after to play Dublin club as well by the clubs, although if they had to pay their GDO out of their own pocket that might cut that out as well.

We will never see the figures but does anyone no believe that Dublin spend more money on their u20s that any other county!!!
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2018, 01:38:55 PM
Won and won well yesterday but still hard to know how good this Mayo U20 team is. They had advantage yesterday of playing a Roscommon team that was missing key players and had come through two tough games the last two weeks. Mayo minors 2015,2016,2017 were less than great well beaten by Galway in each year however minor football is a development grade and players and teams can improve once they play adult football. Mayo had a number of players yesterday that won the Intermediate All Ireland with their club Westport last year and it was no surprise to see most of those players stand out yesterday. 
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 18, 2018, 10:26:18 PM
Our wing back Lambert looked decent on the TG4 highlights
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 18, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
Our wing back Lambert looked decent on the TG4 highlights

Is he the same Lambert that was a starter on the Westport All Ireland Intermediate winning team?

Round 3 of the Connacht minor league on this Saturday

Mayo v Sligo in MacHale Park at 1230
Leitrim v Roscommon in Páirc Seán Mac Diarmada at 5pm
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Rossie11 on June 20, 2018, 09:26:38 PM
Get well soon to Mayos walking wounded after Sunday's battle..
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Crete Boom on June 20, 2018, 11:26:29 PM
Get well soon to Mayos walking wounded after Sunday's battle..

Thanks Rosie, although I was told Oisin Mullin had accountancy on Monday in the Leaving Cert so if he liked that subject as much as I did he would be celebrating on the double if he damaged the shoulder of his writing hand!! :D
Title: Re: Connacht Minor, U-20 and Junior championships 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 22, 2018, 05:32:45 PM
Sligo and Mayo minor/U17 teams named.

Sligo

1     Griffin Gallagher    Tubbercurry/Cloonacool
2     Luke Fleming    Curry
3     Lee Wilson    Coolera/Strandhill
4     David Barrett    Coolaney/Mullinabreena
5     Hubert Gilvarry    St Marys
6     Niall Kilcullen    Easkey
7     Ronan Wilson    Castleconnor
8     Sean Carroll    Shamrock Gaels
9     Sean Doyle    Coolaney/Mullinabreena
10     Eoghan Smith    Drumcliffe/Rosses Point
11     Gavin Duffy    Enniscrone/Kilglass
12     Connor Finn    Ballymote
13     Rian Moylan    Tubbercurry/Cloonacool
14     Matthew Clavin    Bunninadden
15     Eoghan Sweeney    Curry

Mayo

1. Ronan Connolly - Ardnaree Sarsfields
2. Alfie Morrison - Louisburgh
3. Luke Dawson - Westport
4. Sean Holmes - Knockmore
5. Evan Ivers - Belmullet
6. Conor Dunleavy - Balla
7. Aidan Cosgrove - Kiltimagh
8. Jack Carney - Kilmeena
9. Frank Irwin - Ballina Stephenites
10. Liam Donoghue - Kiltane
11. Jack Mahon - Charlestown Sarsfields
12. Liam Og Horkan - Garrymore
13. Martin Ball  - Louisburgh
14. Ultan O'Reilly - Castlebar Mitchels
15. Enda Hession - Garrymore(Captain)