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Title: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 11, 2008, 10:47:55 PM
Have to say I think the new format looks very promising. I'd say Tohill has great fun playing with that virtual computer game! I also like the cut of Coman Goggins jib as an analyst. Safe pair of hands. Hopefully this means we'll be seeing less of that waffler Tommy Lyons.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dodo on May 11, 2008, 10:59:22 PM
They even got a Kerryman ( Daire Ó Cinnéide) to back the Kingdom for the All-Ireland. Very un-cute Kerry hoor like.  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on May 11, 2008, 11:08:02 PM
The studio setup is like a dog's dinner. 
It looks like a case of "we've got this technology and we're going to use it", rather than just using it to improve the analysis.  The graphics moving behind Spillane all the time makes it very hard to watch (as if Spillane on his own wasn't enough!), and the 'bird's eye' view of the analysts when they were choosing the man of the match just looked crap.  Also, the most annoying thing if the 'ring tone' that goes off whenever someones name comes up on the screen.

Where it worked = showing the action replays, e.g. the different views for the Westmeath penalty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gerry on May 11, 2008, 11:16:36 PM
QuoteAlso, the most annoying thing if the 'ring tone' that goes off whenever someones name comes up on the screen.

i fecking hate it.  when they started using it last year, i dropped them a text when a game was live on tv telling them to ease up on their new toy but to no avail.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on May 11, 2008, 11:16:46 PM
thon computer thingy looks the job alright - very good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on May 12, 2008, 12:07:10 AM
At long last, RTE have bowed to public opinion and brought the original Sunday Game theme tune back again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 12, 2008, 12:51:16 AM
I preferred last years music to be honest. I'm going to start a "Bring back the old new Sunday Game theme tune" petition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 12, 2008, 01:21:16 AM
Thought it was ok ovearall,although that shot from above is a bit much, trying too hard to be in the spaceage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Donagh on May 12, 2008, 09:22:44 AM
I thought it was awful. Fecking sound effects swhisshing and whoosing every few seconds when they pop up the blindingly obvious and useless stats on screen. Terrible TV3esq shiny sets and silly graphics. And what is going on with the camera angles? If we have to look at the back of anyones head, please let it be that useless annoying fecker Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 12, 2008, 09:27:01 AM
Jaysus. Any minute now someone will start a "Bring back the old Sunday Game set" petition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
I though the whole set looked rank and 90% of the special effects were stupid and just being smart for the sake of it. The overhead view made me laugh its so ridiculous. Some graphic designer got paid a fortune and ended up making a dogs dinner of the thing. I think RTE need to remember who their customer for GAA is, it aint rugby knobs up in Ballsbridge thats for sure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: donelli on May 12, 2008, 09:48:30 AM
I thought the set was straight out of star trek!!!!
Trekkie fans on here can tell the name of that ship  ;D

The tech bit is a good enough addition to the show. Especially like the dots illustrating the number of steps that westmeath got away with for their goal..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 12, 2008, 09:51:20 AM
I would have said overall the show last night was a big improvement on last years rubbish.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 12, 2008, 09:58:33 AM
I only caught the last 20 minutes or so, but I'd agree Seanie. I like the set, and I like the new format with Joanne Cantwell and her Andy Gray analyst type up with her on the bar stools. A couple of things were annoying, like the moving squares behind Pat Spillane's head. It was like something out of an old Max Headroom video, or the old Flying Toasters windows screensaver.

In general it looked decent though. I haven't seen Anthony's new computer game gadget yet.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 12, 2008, 10:00:02 AM
QuoteA couple of things were annoying, like the moving squares behind Pat Spillane's head

And of course Pat himself. And Kevin McStay on about the best young players in Mayo (and mentioning a Sligo man!).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 12, 2008, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
I think RTE need to remember who their customer for GAA is, it aint rugby knobs up in Ballsbridge thats for sure.

What are we then? Simple folk, who dont like that type of thing! All dis messin' wit com-pew-turs,  ::)

While I didnt get to see it yet, thanks to this "Island of Ireland only" policy. I get the impression of some here that any kind of modernisation or presentation is a waste of time. Starting to sound like the GAA cliches portrayed on Apres Match. While its not as crucial as the content and the games themselves it is an important part in the programs popularity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Heaven on May 12, 2008, 10:44:58 AM
I thought it was excellent apart from the overhead view looking down.

About time they started to be inventive for the Sunday Game. I also like the seating arrangement and will bring more discussion out, and bring Pat Spillane more into it. Good to see sunday game music back
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: feetofflames on May 12, 2008, 11:06:21 AM
Disappointed that theres been no investment made in these pitchside cameras for GAA coverage yet - still a pooor relation to soccor and rugby coverage.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Leo on May 12, 2008, 11:43:19 AM
No problems with the set and use of technology (which will be more effective as the season goes on and they see what works and what doesn't).
More concerned aboiut the bland content. The season preview was a joke - lacking in substance - something just squeezed in to make the programme more appealing than the dour (dire) Leinster game. Surley a run down county by county from a decent analysis or two could have been done. More zip needed when your guests are as deadpan as McStay, Tohill etc.
And the interviews with McIver & co stating the bloody obvious is a total bore.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 12, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
Any word on the content lads, rather than the presentation? Was there more or less action than they were showing last year (which was about 25% of programme time)? That's all I'm interested in and I don't give a toss what music they play or what they say or how they say it because I've decided this year to hit 'mute' when the studio cliche session is on. Except if it's Tommy Lyons, because that would be too funny to miss.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 12, 2008, 12:14:14 PM
Difficult to assess Hardy as there was only one game and they showed quite a bit of it (although as usual it was only the scores). I fear nothing much will change in that regard. The stats section is quite useful though. I feared they'd do this badly and introduce meaningless stats like number of solos in a game but they stayed with basic enough stuff that gives some indication of what happened.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: feetofflames on May 12, 2008, 12:43:09 PM
The camera from above thing in the studio was terrible hardy boy. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on May 12, 2008, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 12, 2008, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
I think RTE need to remember who their customer for GAA is, it aint rugby knobs up in Ballsbridge thats for sure.

What are we then? Simple folk, who dont like that type of thing! All dis messin' wit com-pew-turs,  ::)

While I didnt get to see it yet, thanks to this "Island of Ireland only" policy. I get the impression of some here that any kind of modernisation or presentation is a waste of time. Starting to sound like the GAA cliches portrayed on Apres Match. While its not as crucial as the content and the games themselves it is an important part in the programs popularity.

From my point of view, not at all.  I think my posting history would suggest that i'm realativly progressive (especially in the generally conservative GAA environment).
The point is that it was all style over substance. Too many pointless gimics.  Some changes worked, others added no value and looked pretty tacky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 12, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Great to have the old theme tune back and Joanne and Tohill on de stools and their gizmos look well, camera angles were shocking though. The feckin ringing when names came up on screen was very irrating, for a while I thought someone had lost their phone down de back of my couch. The sound production team must be half deaf in there as the "effects" are way too loud. The three big brother chairs facing each other looks a bit stupid and the view from above actually made me laugh. Still though it is an improvement from last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 12, 2008, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 12, 2008, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 12, 2008, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 12, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
I think RTE need to remember who their customer for GAA is, it aint rugby knobs up in Ballsbridge thats for sure.

What are we then? Simple folk, who dont like that type of thing! All dis messin' wit com-pew-turs,  ::)

While I didnt get to see it yet, thanks to this "Island of Ireland only" policy. I get the impression of some here that any kind of modernisation or presentation is a waste of time. Starting to sound like the GAA cliches portrayed on Apres Match. While its not as crucial as the content and the games themselves it is an important part in the programs popularity.

From my point of view, not at all.  I think my posting history would suggest that i'm realativly progressive (especially in the generally conservative GAA environment).
The point is that it was all style over substance. Too many pointless gimics.  Some changes worked, others added no value and looked pretty tacky.

Note the words "some" and "I get the impression", as opposed to "all" and "you are".
Anyway, didnt have you in mind, Maguire.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gwan-ye-boy-ya on May 12, 2008, 03:17:16 PM
great to  have the old music back ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 12, 2008, 03:19:00 PM
Well the layout was a bit odd to say the least with Pat stuck up on a big chair like a Bond villian speaking to his two henchmen below him and indeed half the time all you could see was the back of the pundits heads. Then behind Pat was Joanne Cantwell and another pundit up on a pair of high stools. The entire set was a bit of an eyesore with most of the furnishings looking like interference on a television screen and a big swirl on the carpet below them. I wonder did Philip Treacy design the set?

The much touted new gizmo for them to use this year was the virtual reality computer graphics. However these were used by Sky over a decade ago and were ditched after a year or two of use if I remember correctly.

Overall the new set layout would burn your retinas while the content is much the same as last year as you'd expect given that it's the same presenter and same pundits.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Feckitt on May 12, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Good Points

1. The theme tune is back!! Hurrah
2. Joanne & Tohill's section was very good.  I think big Anthony is better suited to this type of serious analysis.  He never looked comfortable trying to have the craic with Spillane & Tommy Lyons.
3. The graphics employed by Joanne & Tohill were pretty good, especially the virtual reality stuff where they changed the camera angle.
4. The montage of 2007 was brilliant
5. Absense of Tommy Lyons.
6. Absense of 'eejits corner' or whatever it was called last year where toothless wonders said hello to the mammy

Bad Points

1. Spillane.  Still better suited as an analyst rather than a presenter
2. Kevin McStay.  A very negative unlikeable chap.
3. Spillane still leading every question with an email or text from some random punter.  The ould fella still says that anyone that knows how to text knows nothing about football !!!
4. The overhead shots.  Cringeworthy

Overall, I think this is a big improvement on last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Death Valley on May 12, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: donelli on May 12, 2008, 09:48:30 AM


The tech bit is a good enough addition to the show. Especially like the dots illustrating the number of steps that westmeath got away with for their goal..

And McStay the Mayo fool had the stupidity to contradict the evidence. "No I dont agree Anthony he tuck 8 steps not 10" The computer is wrong, the Mayo man is right. He should be bet out of Roscommon like the last Mayo lad  ;D. Lyons is another Mayo man thats a fool, Carney is the worst of all.I Like Spillane (wind up merchant), Cinneide & Tohill. O Rourke is a bit of a gobdaa, Brolly a complete tospot. Lyster is a fantastic presenter. Good to have the music back, even if its a gay version of its former self.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on May 12, 2008, 04:53:53 PM
Quote from: Death Valley on May 12, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Good to have the music back, even if its a gay version of its former self.

Heeeeeeey! I like the new version.

I see that the Championship is still blocked to the North. Gonna have to work around that, but I see that this year, it is available world-wide on a Wednesday.

Pints, you'll be able to watch it on Wednesday night..... wait, you're on dial-up aren't you! ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dubinhell on May 13, 2008, 12:57:02 PM

Cough cough

http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=GAA

And when somebody starts showing live football outside of Ireland then i'll stop using this ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 13, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: Death Valley on May 12, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Good to have the music back, even if its a gay version of its former self.

Yeah, its not as good as the original, theres some backing vocals on it from what I heard that just dont sit right. Like some blokes humming the tune in the back-ground
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2008, 10:15:46 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 13, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: Death Valley on May 12, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Good to have the music back, even if its a gay version of its former self.

Yeah, its not as good as the original, theres some backing vocals on it from what I heard that just dont sit right. Like some blokes humming the tune in the back-ground


I don't know Juice, some people just can't let GAA tv shows move on. ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 15, 2008, 08:46:39 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 14, 2008, 10:15:46 PM
Quote from: thejuice on May 13, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: Death Valley on May 12, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Good to have the music back, even if its a gay version of its former self.

Yeah, its not as good as the original, theres some backing vocals on it from what I heard that just dont sit right. Like some blokes humming the tune in the back-ground


I don't know Juice, some people just can't let GAA tv shows move on. ;)

Hey you! stop that,

Watched it last night online, it would be a big improvement if they just got rid of Spillane, all the graphics and new studio layouts wont make a difference if he's there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on May 15, 2008, 08:51:52 AM
The noise when a graphic pops up on screen annoys me, but the view above is stupid. Other than that, looks good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 18, 2008, 10:07:11 PM
A piece of incisive analysis from Tommy Lyons after the Wicklow v Kildare game "Like, you know....like" Tremendous stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on May 18, 2008, 10:17:45 PM
ALl of it is terrible apart from the bit of graphic stuff that Tohill did.  Remember, these muppets have the benefit of five hours to ponder what they are going to say and you'd swear it was the first time they'd thought about it when asked the first question.
Dreadful.  No incisive analysis. Joanne Cantwell made about three errors in her first sentence.  And who decided it was a good iidea to have her and Tohill sitting in the background as a distraction.  Give me cheap and cheerful BBC any day.  At least McHugh and Burns know the game and look interested in what they are talking about.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2008, 10:31:31 PM
Someone tell Tommy Lyons Armagh didn't win their last 2 games in the League. I know everyone makes mistakes but when your an analyst basing your opinion on a team's championship chances on inaccurate facts, there's something seriously wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on May 18, 2008, 10:35:36 PM
Hard to criticise the Sunday game at this stage when most of the games are shite due to mismatches and teams not been fully match fit .

Give it time folks hopefully the games get better when Ulster and Leinster have the quarter finals . What do people think of the suggestion Carlow should not be in the championship ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on May 18, 2008, 10:38:47 PM
Quote from: Seany on May 18, 2008, 10:17:45 PM
ALl of it is terrible apart from the bit of graphic stuff that Tohill did.  Remember, these muppets have the benefit of five hours to ponder what they are going to say and you'd swear it was the first time they'd thought about it when asked the first question.
Dreadful.  No incisive analysis. Joanne Cantwell made about three errors in her first sentence.  And who decided it was a good iidea to have her and Tohill sitting in the background as a distraction.  Give me cheap and cheerful BBC any day.  At least McHugh and Burns know the game and look interested in what they are talking about.   
So which Sunday Game analysts don't know the game? 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 18, 2008, 10:42:49 PM
I think yer being a bit harsh there lads, it's not faultless but I'm not sure what you can expect in the small window of opportunity analysts get to speak. I can't understand why there isn't a mid week show that allows analysts to review the previous games in more detail and preview the upcoming games. With a phone and text in aspect to the show it could lead to some interesting discussions.

QuoteGive it time folks hopefully the games get better when Ulster and Leinster have the quarter finals . What do people think of the suggestion Carlow should not be in the championship ?

Not sure about that but the provincial format for the championship has outlived it's usefulness and needs to go. The power brokers in the GAA need to take the bull by the horns here and try to change the way we run our inter county competitions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GaryColemansLeftPeg on May 18, 2008, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2008, 10:31:31 PM
Someone tell Tommy Lyons Armagh didn't win their last 2 games in the League. I know everyone makes mistakes but when your an analyst basing your opinion on a team's championship chances on inaccurate facts, there's something seriously wrong.

Pea Brain.

Stop making this a statto board - a mistake fair enough, but lets take it more seriously than that.

As it is said "Without gorwing Crops a man can't harvest in Winter, Summer or for his matchday sunday"

I think we all should think about this before criticising.

A man who criticises walks on "the other Bridge from me", Which Armagh man said that then lads?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 18, 2008, 10:52:25 PM
I think Tommy Lyons is used to make all the other pundits look good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 18, 2008, 10:56:13 PM
QuoteI think Tommy Lyons is used to make all the other pundits look good.

He really is the most annoying and useless pundit possible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on May 18, 2008, 10:59:00 PM
They've stopped the graphics moving behind Spillane's head = good.
They still insist on the shots from above = still hilarious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on May 18, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 18, 2008, 10:56:13 PM
QuoteI think Tommy Lyons is used to make all the other pundits look good.

He really is the most annoying and useless pundit possible.



Ah Tommy is not that bad .he has the experience of been involved at the top end and brings some realism to the debates
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 18, 2008, 11:04:20 PM
Spillane's the best pundit they have. He doesn't make too many mistakes presenting any more but he's still a better pundit. Lyons is ok for me too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on May 18, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
quite like the new format, lyons is a pretty good analyst most of the time. i think some of you are so out of date you'd prefer if they wore slippers and sat around in rocking chairs while mrs doyle from Father Ted brewed the tea
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 18, 2008, 11:09:12 PM
Lyons constantly moves his feet like a restless child.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Doire abú on May 18, 2008, 11:10:37 PM
Noticed that  as well. Have to agree with the consensus that he knows **** all as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on May 18, 2008, 11:18:58 PM
Quote from: Doire abú on May 18, 2008, 11:10:37 PM
Noticed that  as well. Have to agree with the consensus that he knows **** all as well.
Very harsh lads, the man has 2 Leinsters and an All Ireland club under his belt, All Ireland U21 too??  Maybe just not good at expressing himself?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 18, 2008, 11:40:33 PM
If he stopped thinking about his feet for a second maybe he could provide some semi-coherent analysis!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 19, 2008, 12:38:51 AM
Lyons is a real p***k and is beyond annoying.  Knows Fu*k all about football, constantly stating the obvious. while his achievments were listed, his failures were a whole lot more
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on May 19, 2008, 01:50:38 AM
Quotewhile his achievments were listed, his failures were a whole lot more

Even the most sucessful have had more failures over their career than sucesses. Thats the nature of sport.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on May 19, 2008, 09:47:30 AM
Quote from: joemamas on May 19, 2008, 12:38:51 AM
Lyons is a real p***k and is beyond annoying.  Knows Fu*k all about football, constantly stating the obvious. while his achievments were listed, his failures were a whole lot more

Is this pick on Lyons day ? Ok - he does annoy me as well !  ;) :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 19, 2008, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on May 18, 2008, 11:18:58 PM
Quote from: Doire abú on May 18, 2008, 11:10:37 PM
Noticed that  as well. Have to agree with the consensus that he knows **** all as well.
Very harsh lads, the man has 2 Leinsters and an All Ireland club under his belt, All Ireland U21 too??  Maybe just not good at expressing himself?

He shouldnt be an analyst on national TV then......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 19, 2008, 09:53:12 AM
I think, despite leading Offaly and Dublin to Leinster titles, and Crokes to an AIC title, Tommy Lyons' greatest contribution to modern society is introducing 'Arse Boxing' to the vernacular.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: goldenyears on May 19, 2008, 10:15:07 AM
watched the sunday game for the first time in the new season last night and thought it was awful

the studio decor, the new gadgets, the camera panning as people spoke and the over head shots..!

did anyone notice the camera moving around reflected in the screen behind tohill's head? jaysus it was cringe worthy stuff

do any of these rte/bbc fellas watch sky sports at all to show how it should be done??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Heaven on May 19, 2008, 10:21:33 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on May 18, 2008, 10:59:00 PM
They've stopped the graphics moving behind Spillane's head = good.
They still insist on the shots from above = still hilarious.

Good to see Graphics are away. Over head is just too much.

I'd like to see Spillane turn around and talk to Tohill when he is doing his bit. Looked too wooden still. Would bring Tohill in more and is sitting there looking like a young lad on Communion waiting for his picture to be taken.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on May 19, 2008, 12:11:01 PM
Spillane was being a wee bollocks. Saying that Tohill still has a lot to learn about analysing, but he's getting there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 02:35:53 PM
It looks like they are f**king sitting on zebras.
Whoever designed the studio needs shot
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on May 19, 2008, 02:47:21 PM
YEah I don't like the way Tohill and Joanne have to stay there like lemons listening to what the lads have to say without having any real input... it looks stupid!

As for the rest of it well I thought the overhead shots are OK, it looked pretty cool when giving the MOTM nominees for the Galway game. The setup looks a bit like a quiz show with the two lads facing Spillane the quizmaster.

Other than that the analysis thing is pretty cool. Young Joanne will imptrove as she gets a bit more experienced, the new music is back and we get a look at Joanne so not all bad.

Oh yeah and on the Joanne Cantwell thing. Is she actually good looking or is it just that it's a novelty having a woman on the Sunday Game. Is it elevating her status without her really deserving it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 19, 2008, 02:50:04 PM
I think she's a nice looking girl, just as Evanne is as well. (Although the camera doesn't do her (Evanne) justice). Having said that, it could be a case of 'what's rare is wonderful' as looking at Spillane, Lyons, Davis, O'Rourke and Brolly would make Rose West look like a cracker :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 19, 2008, 02:54:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2008, 02:53:27 PM
Yes, Joanne should be made to wear just her underwear.

Also, it would be great craic if Tohill hit the wrong button and the gaaboard came up on the screen showing that he is swaman or pintsofguinness or someone.

Tommy Lyons should be made just to wear his underwear......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 19, 2008, 03:11:41 PM
Whatever floats yer boat....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 19, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
Would have to agree strongly that Evanne looks 10 times better in the flesh, saw her in Croker last year and had trouble remembering there was a match on...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2008, 03:14:58 PM
id love to see Tohill lose the head and go down and put some manners on the two, fools down there.  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on May 19, 2008, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2008, 03:14:58 PM
id love to see Tohill lose the head and go down and put some manners on the two, fools down there.  :)

I'd pay the license just for that
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ludermor on May 19, 2008, 04:09:58 PM
There must be a few lads here hoping evanne reads this and will be introducing themselves the next time ye see her!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: scalder on May 19, 2008, 04:30:03 PM
Did any of you hear Des Cahill last week, Evanne was in doing the sports bullitin in her camoige gear, Des seemed more than a little excited, not that I could blame the man!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on May 19, 2008, 05:14:27 PM
Hasnt been any real big matches so far but I definately think there is to much talk on the Sunday game and not enough action. The action nearly seems to be a side show with most of the emphasis on the pundits. If they want to talk then a midweek show would be much better and could also be used to preview the next weeks games as someone else said. A lot of people go to watch gaelic games on a Sunday afternoon so decent highlights is definately needed on Sunday night. There certainly wouldnt be any point in avoiding the scores so you could watch the games that night due to the lack of coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 19, 2008, 05:26:04 PM
Exactly TD
Does no one watch the football?

My complaint is there is not enough of the highlights.
At least another 5 mins a game  and less chit chat.




Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on May 19, 2008, 06:37:14 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on May 19, 2008, 03:14:58 PM
id love to see Tohill lose the head and go down and put some manners on the two, fools down there.  :)

I can't see Tohill ever summoning enough emotion to do anything even remotely exciting.  He's as dull as you can get.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on May 25, 2008, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2008, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2008, 02:53:27 PM
Yes, Joanne should be made to wear just her underwear.
I see she hasn't been reading the board. :'(

Could be one of the extra features when you press the red button.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on May 25, 2008, 10:59:06 PM
Did any of those photos match the names of the players for Fermanagh's Man of the Match?  There were 2 pictures of the same man with 2 different names.  I'm pretty sure neither were Marty McGrath! I'm not overly familiar with the Fermanagh players, but didn't recognise any of the mug-shots on screen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on May 26, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
You're right Maguire, none of the pictures were fermanagh men. Some of the ones with me thought the bottom one was anthony lynch, but I think myself it may have been the three MOM candidates of another game shown that night - i was in the pub and only seen the fer-mon game. Poor tho, but I'm sure they'll recognise them by september  ;D :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 26, 2008, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on May 25, 2008, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 25, 2008, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 19, 2008, 02:53:27 PM
Yes, Joanne should be made to wear just her underwear.
I see she hasn't been reading the board. :'(

Could be one of the extra features when you press the red button.
Sadly the only red button on the remote at home is to turn it off. :'(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 26, 2008, 02:02:15 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on May 26, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
You're right Maguire, none of the pictures were fermanagh men. Some of the ones with me thought the bottom one was anthony lynch, but I think myself it may have been the three MOM candidates of another game shown that night - i was in the pub and only seen the fer-mon game. Poor tho, but I'm sure they'll recognise them by september  ;D :P

That was a joke. For the Offaly Laois game, Anthony Lynch from Cork (I think) was supposed to be Kevin Brady, Some lad whose picture was down for Ryan Keenan of Fermanagh in the previous game was spposed to be Conor Mahon, and the same picture again was supposed to be Brian Carroll!

That sort of schoolboy stuff is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mentalman on May 26, 2008, 03:20:48 PM
Yeah, wrong pictures, and then to compound it by showing the same wrong picture twice for two different guys. And people wonder why the smaller counties get chips on their shoulders :)

Still, let's be honest, the Sunday Game disappeared up it's own hole a long time back, has got nigh on unwatchable since that empty vessel Spillane took the hot seat, and this year's introduction of the technodrome has managed to top the pre-existing farce. With TV3 soon to add their own brand of amateurism to the mix, the GAA badly need to consider taking control of how their sports are shown to the public. a good point ot start might be the AFL coverage shown on TG4 - that's how to package highlights. It's a crock of having highlights with analysis, analysis belongs after the live match, highlights should be just that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 26, 2008, 03:24:10 PM
Setanta used to have a good show during the week. If I was head of RTE sport, this is what I would do.

Sunday Game live - grand, leave it as it is.

Sunday Game - More highlights, more interviews, MOTM. Very little analysis.

Wednesday Recap/Preview - Hour long. Few highlights, more tactical analysis, when they've had a few days to to some revision and get the graphics etc right. Also preview to next weekend's games, like what Breaking Ball (which was excellent) used to do.


Agus sin é.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 26, 2008, 03:38:22 PM
What did I do wrong?

Seo é? :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 26, 2008, 03:58:42 PM
Sorry. Obviously that as well, but I hardly think that needs to be pointed out. :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on June 01, 2008, 04:49:20 PM
 :D
Good lad Colm
Small men shouldnt be refereeing big championship games
What a f**king thing to say :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 01, 2008, 04:51:04 PM
  Re: Donegal V Derry, June 1st
« Reply #91 on: Today at 04:49:44 PM »     

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o rourke "a small man should not be in charge of a big mans game.

I am no fan of duffy , but comments were over the top, especially when there is no way to reply or defend yourself.  must be a little bit of history there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on June 01, 2008, 04:54:39 PM
Maybe Duffy didnt give our wee Shane enough frees one day......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 01, 2008, 04:55:51 PM
(http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_images/_Barry-McGuigan.jpg)
McGuigan, pretending to be Duffy, yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on June 01, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
Big Anthony isnt going to hang Fergal Doc - he reckons it was more a get out of the way slap :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on June 01, 2008, 09:56:53 PM
Is she really that class hardstation or is it she stands out because she is surrounded by a bunch of ugly fcukers?

Camilla would stand out on the Sunday Game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on June 01, 2008, 10:01:49 PM
What will happen Doherty ? a 4 week ban . It can happen in any match .I did not think it was that serious .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magickingdom on June 01, 2008, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: full back on June 01, 2008, 09:56:53 PM
Is she really that class hardstation or is it she stands out because she is surrounded by a bunch of ugly fcukers?
Camilla would stand out on the Sunday Game

oh please fb, shes a honey trap! stands out even when interviewing the kerry team
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: unforgiven on June 01, 2008, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: full back on June 01, 2008, 09:56:53 PM
Is she really that class hardstation or is it she stands out because she is surrounded by a bunch of ugly fcukers?

Camilla would stand out on the Sunday Game

Don't ever call anthony ugly! >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on June 01, 2008, 10:17:40 PM
Im not saying she is ugly, but she isnt that good looking
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 01, 2008, 10:19:28 PM
That overhead Camera angle is a bit freaky, can't see the point unless you want to know who has a Bald Patch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 01, 2008, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: full back on June 01, 2008, 09:47:45 PM
Big Anthony isnt going to hang Fergal Doc - he reckons it was more a get out of the way slap :D

Seriously biased from Tohill in the studio - lacks credibility. You can't say McQuaid should go one week and then dismiss Doherty's effort because it was 'at the lower end of the scale'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on June 01, 2008, 10:23:30 PM
Ahh maguire ffs,  it was an ambush.

I watched the whole game and it was a minor incident
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 01, 2008, 10:26:42 PM
But it was a strike.  If it hadn't been a Derry man, Tohill would have had no problem calling it as it was.  I'm not saying it was a deadly serious assault, but his inability/unwillingness to acknowledge it was poor form. He sounded like a politician.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: off the laces on June 02, 2008, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: full back on June 01, 2008, 10:17:40 PM
Im not saying she is ugly, but she isnt that good looking
FB you must have some looker onyour arm, Joanne is pure creme de la creme!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 02, 2008, 10:25:06 AM
QuoteIf it hadn't been a Derry man, Tohill would have had no problem calling it as it was.

Brolly didn't call it as it was either - what's the point in having these gombeens on telly spending our licence fees unless they're honest?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
What's your problem? Did Tohill admit it was striking? Yes he did. Basically he said it wasn't much of a punch but he admitted it was a punch on the lower end of the striking scale. Doherty deserves to get a month for striking and that should be the end of it. I don't see what all the fuss is over. In fairness I didn't hear Brolly yesterday but I think he was trying to defend the indefensible "Doherty's not that type of player, blah blah blah". In fairness he's not usually one to strike out but he did and deserves his month.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 02, 2008, 11:07:40 AM
QuoteDoherty deserves to get a month for striking and that should be the end of it. I don't see what all the fuss is over.

I agree, I don't think it should be glossed over (as something insignificant) or talked up (as the new holocaust), but Tohill shouldn't have tried to defend his fellow countyman in the very awkward fashion that he did.  He seemed like he didn't want to be getting a slagging down the pub at home about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cavanmaniac on June 02, 2008, 12:23:25 PM
Tohill went around the houses trying to introduce a grey area - the Doherty offence was "at the lower end of the scale" he offered, along with other such GAA euphemisms emplyed to circumvent the rules etc. - when the rule states, as pointed out by Davis in fairness to him, that striking or attempting to strike warrants an immediate red card.

15 minutes later, Tohill is analysing the penalty incident or some other such matter and he starts banging on about how "technically, and by the letter of the law" it was a correct decision.

And nobody in the studio pulled him up over it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 02, 2008, 01:02:25 PM
QuoteAnd nobody in the studio pulled him up over it.

But it seemed to be what most of us 'neutrals' were thinking, immediately.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 02, 2008, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: off the laces on June 02, 2008, 10:19:10 AM
Quote from: full back on June 01, 2008, 10:17:40 PM
Im not saying she is ugly, but she isnt that good looking
FB you must have some looker onyour arm, Joanne is pure creme de la creme!!!

I am with FB on this one, she is ok, nothing special. If you walked down the street in any town you would see ten better looking women within five minutes. Its because she is on the same set as some of those other beasts like Spillane and Mc Stay that she stands out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the green man on June 02, 2008, 01:13:19 PM
That other blade, Ni Chullin(?), she's better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 02, 2008, 01:16:32 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 10:29:48 AM
What's your problem? Did Tohill admit it was striking? Yes he did. Basically he said it wasn't much of a punch but he admitted it was a punch on the lower end of the striking scale. Doherty deserves to get a month for striking and that should be the end of it. I don't see what all the fuss is over.

Yes, Tohill just about admitted it, but only after being pushed and pushed to do so - that's what seems to have annoyed people and that's what the fuss is over.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 02, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
i thought Brolly and Tohill were  a joke last night. In general they are possibly the two best analysts and i usually like listening to them but let themselves down yesterday. Striking is striking, full stop and if we start getting into the semantics like the power of a punch or he didn't hit him that hard, the game is finished. Both of them should have been big enough to say, he struck the player and should have walked despite their own county colours.
The reality is the analysts shouldn't be commenting on their own county unless they agree to be impartial and both of them took the piss last night. neither should be asked for their comments re derry for the rest of the season on live television. that was an absolute piss-take last night and highlights when someone has a virtual monopoly on viewing rights the sort of shite they can get away with.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mentalman on June 02, 2008, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: the green man on June 02, 2008, 01:13:19 PM
That other blade, Ni Chullin(?), she's better.

Nail on head.

As to the substantive issue, Brolly let himself down badly, but not for the first time I suppose. Getting ratty with O'Rourke was hillarious though, implying Colm actively wanted to get the Derry lad suspended. The only thing to say in his defense was that he was obviously fired up after his counties win, his wee cynical heart still cares dearly about all thing Derry. Big Anthony was at least a little more shame faced. It was a striking offence, plain and simple. If he gets suspended he'll only have himself to blame.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
Dear god what's with all this uproar!? People are biased FACT! Whether it's Paul Curran and Tommy Lyons w**king over Dublin when they beat Longford or Louth or some other footballing superpower down there, Martin McHugh hating Derry (and likig Donegal slightly... now there was someone showing themselves up yesterday), or Jarlath Burns being Armagh through and through. The rest are as bad with O'Rourke hard to listen to when he's defending Meath.

To call the 2 lads a joke is a bit rich coming from a Dub supporter!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 02, 2008, 02:34:49 PM
.....Or a Derry man defending two Derry men defending a Derry man. ;)

My head hurts  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rav67 on June 02, 2008, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
Dear god what's with all this uproar!? People are biased FACT! Whether it's Paul Curran and Tommy Lyons w**king over Dublin when they beat Longford or Louth or some other footballing superpower down there, Martin McHugh hating Derry (and likig Donegal slightly... now there was someone showing themselves up yesterday), or Jarlath Burns being Armagh through and through. The rest are as bad with O'Rourke hard to listen to when he's defending Meath.

To call the 2 lads a joke is a bit rich coming from a Dub supporter!

While we're at the nail-on-heads
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 02, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
QuotePeople are biased FACT!

I was wondering when the whataboutery would start.   ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:51:25 PM
Whataboutery? I would have thought that in a discussion where people are calling Brolly and Tohill biased (which they are and I'm not denying that), it should be opened up that pretty much all the pundits on the Sunday Game are biased for their own county...actually none more so than our famous host!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 02, 2008, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 02, 2008, 01:48:08 PM
i thought Brolly and Tohill were  a joke last night. In general they are possibly the two best analysts and i usually like listening to them but let themselves down yesterday. Striking is striking, full stop and if we start getting into the semantics like the power of a punch or he didn't hit him that hard, the game is finished. Both of them should have been big enough to say, he struck the player and should have walked despite their own county colours.
The reality is the analysts shouldn't be commenting on their own county unless they agree to be impartial and both of them took the piss last night. neither should be asked for their comments re derry for the rest of the season on live television. that was an absolute piss-take last night and highlights when someone has a virtual monopoly on viewing rights the sort of shite they can get away with.

I agree that Tohill should have straight out said it was a red card offence but slight bias for your own county is surely understandable and on such occasions the punditry should be taken with a pinch of salt. I don't understand the uproar here, especially with Brolly who has a track record of being a bit of a wind up (was at the game so missed what he said, admittedly)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 02, 2008, 03:11:25 PM
simply should have had davis in the studio instead of brolly and tohill should have been given the night off. It's not that difficult to organise. obviosuly in RTE it's very difficult. there is biased and there is yesterday's pisstake because that's what it was. But when you've got a monoploy that's the shite you have to put up with.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rav67 on June 02, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 02, 2008, 03:11:25 PM
simply should have had davis in the studio instead of brolly and tohill should have been given the night off. It's not that difficult to organise. obviosuly in RTE it's very difficult. there is biased and there is yesterday's pisstake because that's what it was. But when you've got a monoploy that's the shite you have to put up with.

What difference does it make really?  Joe Public can think for himself and doesn't need Tohill or someone else in the same circumstances to condemn a fellow countyman to make up his mind whether an incident was a sending-off offence or not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 02, 2008, 03:30:50 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 02, 2008, 03:11:25 PM
simply should have had davis in the studio instead of brolly and tohill should have been given the night off. It's not that difficult to organise. obviosuly in RTE it's very difficult. there is biased and there is yesterday's pisstake because that's what it was. But when you've got a monoploy that's the shite you have to put up with.

Can't understand your rage at a one off show of bias. You said yourself they are good analysts in general. Tony Davis was there to bring balance for tohill, likewise o'rouke for brolly.

Also what duo would be better to cover a derry match than joe and anthony - surely they are best placed to give insight.

Most of all, how the f**k this storm in a teacup is down to a broadcasting monopoly is beyond me
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 02, 2008, 03:43:16 PM
Quote from: Rav67 on June 02, 2008, 02:37:16 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
Dear god what's with all this uproar!? People are biased FACT! Whether it's Paul Curran and Tommy Lyons w**king over Dublin when they beat Longford or Louth or some other footballing superpower down there, Martin McHugh hating Derry (and likig Donegal slightly... now there was someone showing themselves up yesterday), or Jarlath Burns being Armagh through and through. The rest are as bad with O'Rourke hard to listen to when he's defending Meath.

To call the 2 lads a joke is a bit rich coming from a Dub supporter!

While we're at the nail-on-heads

Perfectly summed up screen
you get this on MOTD and skyports week in week out
wenger - i didnt see it !
ferguson - never a penalty
jamie redknapp - gerrard didnt dive
etc, etc
everyone sticks up for their own in every walk of life
on the derry thread it goes on every week, everone has blue, maroon, or red glasses on depending on their club

someone else said there, rav67 maybe, is why do we need thesed people on here week in out to state the obvious
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: billy the kid on June 02, 2008, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
Dear god what's with all this uproar!? People are biased FACT! Whether it's Paul Curran and Tommy Lyons w**king over Dublin when they beat Longford or Louth or some other footballing superpower down there, Martin McHugh hating Derry (and likig Donegal slightly... now there was someone showing themselves up yesterday), or Jarlath Burns being Armagh through and through. The rest are as bad with O'Rourke hard to listen to when he's defending Meath.

To call the 2 lads a joke is a bit rich coming from a Dub supporter!

Exile is right all of the pundits are biased to a certain degree and none more so than McHugh, Burns and that tube Tommy lyons  and the worst Ive ever seen is Ger Houlahan who always managed to come out with "you cant look past Armagh" no matter what game was being talked about.

Tohil and Brolly showed bias no doubt about it but so what? Every single poster on here shows bias in their views being generous to their own team and being very hard on teams they dont like.  I know I do it all the time and I dont apologise for it one bit.

These wonderfully tribalised views we display when talking about our own county are one of the many things that make the GAA such a brilliant part of life.

As someone else said its all a storm in a tea cup.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 04:23:44 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on June 02, 2008, 04:21:46 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 02, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
Dear god what's with all this uproar!? People are biased FACT! Whether it's Paul Curran and Tommy Lyons w**king over Dublin when they beat Longford or Louth or some other footballing superpower down there, Martin McHugh hating Derry (and likig Donegal slightly... now there was someone showing themselves up yesterday), or Jarlath Burns being Armagh through and through. The rest are as bad with O'Rourke hard to listen to when he's defending Meath.

To call the 2 lads a joke is a bit rich coming from a Dub supporter!

Exile is right all of the pundits are biased to a certain degree and none more so than McHugh, Burns and that tube Tommy lyons  and the worst Ive ever seen is Ger Houlahan who always managed to come out with "you cant look past Armagh" no matter what game was being talked about.

Tohil and Brolly showed bias no doubt about it but so what? Every single poster on here shows bias in their views being generous to their own team and being very hard on teams they dont like.  I know I do it all the time and I dont apologise for it one bit.

These wonderfully tribalised views we display when talking about our own county are one of the many things that make the GAA such a brilliant part of life.

As someone else said its all a storm in a tea cup.

That may be but I think you owe all of us an apology! :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Will Hunting on June 02, 2008, 04:25:54 PM
Why are people so surprised that Tohill doesn't want to come on TV on a Sunday evening and try and get a fellow countyman suspended. Basically, that is what it boils down to. The Sunday Game has the potential (and we've seen it before) to help the CCCCCCC with their investigations into on-field misdemeanours. It's like a trial in the studio.

Now the funny thing about all this is that it's the Dublin posters who are crying about Tohill and Brolly's comments. What's it to you lads?? Still peeved that Ciaran Whelan managed to get suspended after 4 years + of thuggery? Jumping in to comment after a striking offence like we should all be up in arms.

Special mention also to whichever Monaghan poster compared Doherty's actions to Gary McQuaid's last week. McQuaid stamped, kicked and threw a punch straight in front of the referee. This followed an elbow on McCabe only moments earlier (you can see it on the Sunday Game highlights last week). To compare the two is nothing short of ridiculous. I don't even think Doherty extended his arm out to strike!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 02, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
QuoteWhataboutery? I would have thought that in a discussion where people are calling Brolly and Tohill biased (which they are and I'm not denying that), it should be opened up that pretty much all the pundits on the Sunday Game are biased for their own county...actually none more so than our famous host!

Don't disagree, but that certainly doesn't make it right (and it definitely meets the whataboutery criteria).  Why not take the example of Longford's finest, Eugene McGee, who never 'goes easy' on his own county, and rarely (if ever) defends the indefensible?  Liam Griffin doesn't mind dishing it out to Wexford either, when it's due, as far as I can recall.  I agree that it is rare alright, but it shouldn't be. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 02, 2008, 05:25:56 PM
fairness across the board will, if there is consistency in our discplinary procedures, doherty should get a 4 week ban, no more, no less than he deserves. it wasn't too much for joe and tohill to say he struck his opponent. Listening to Joe was a bit like that Simpsons episode where Homer is protesting his innocence to the judge and eventually managed to convince the judge he was the aggrieved party.
Biased or not it wasn't too much to ask for them to call the incident what it was , striking.Poor old Joe thought he was in the High Court. It's amazing how defenisive some of our Northern brethren get when it's their county involved, but if its a dub they should be hung from the nearest gallows. Consistency is that we're looking for if we're to have coherent discplinary procedures.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Will Hunting on June 02, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
I agree Indiana, Doherty is deserving of a 4-week ban, but you can't expect analysts to compare it to other offences when it's not in the same league. The CCC may deem Doherty and McQuaid's offences to both deserve 4 weeks, but I'm saying that there is a world of difference between the two (despite the fact that the rules say it is 'striking' and therefore 4 weeks). But our analysts shouldn't be forced to say they are all the exact same when clearly Doherty's offence was nowhere near as bad as we've seen in other quarters. And expecting Derry pundits to lambast the offence is folly. As other posters said, rightly or wrongly, most analysts will try and look after their own.

Ps, Kavanagh was no angel yesterday himself; some of his antics were disgraceful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 02, 2008, 06:00:33 PM
Quote from: Will Hunting on June 02, 2008, 04:25:54 PM
Special mention also to whichever Monaghan poster compared Doherty's actions to Gary McQuaid's last week. McQuaid stamped, kicked and threw a punch straight in front of the referee. This followed an elbow on McCabe only moments earlier (you can see it on the Sunday Game highlights last week). To compare the two is nothing short of ridiculous. I don't even think Doherty extended his arm out to strike!

That would be me.  My point is that even if there hadn't been the kicking incident (re McQuaid), there would have been a red card for the strike alone.
The comparison is not ridiculous - i brought it up because it was so recent and also got a lot of discussion. I can't remember anyone defending it or trying to make excuses. It's irrelevant whether or not the incident took place in front of the ref, save for the fact that in such an instance the ref can take immediate action.

And if Doherty wasn't extending his arm out to strike, what was he doing? Was he about to run his hands through his hair?! It was a blatant strike.  It may not have been the hardest in the world and Kavanagh may have gone down very easily.  But none of that is the issue - it's Brolly and Tohill's unwillingness to call it as it was straight out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 02, 2008, 06:35:22 PM
It was a strike and merits a suspension. Them's the rules. But there should be a new rule introduced to outlaw face-clutching.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Will Hunting on June 02, 2008, 06:43:58 PM
Tohill said that "it was at the lower end of what we would define striking". This is correct. What is the problem??

I've just watched last night's highlights for the first time there now. I honestly thought Tohill had remained tight-lipped refusing to say the offence even happened, before Davis and Splliane actually pinned him down and pressed him for a response. This is what i though had happened having read this thread. Needless to say, this was not the case.  ::) ::)

Talk about much ado about nothing!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 02, 2008, 08:21:41 PM
QuoteTohill said that "it was at the lower end of what we would define striking". This is correct. What is the problem??

It is a fuss about very little, in terms of the strike involved - the issue is about Tohill and Brolly telling it like they do about the other counties in Ireland.  As for 'the lower end of what we would define as striking', I'd have said that's what Drogba did; I'd have thought the 'upper end' might be Barry Hall's recent, ahem, performance.  Doherty's was somewhere in the middle, a daycent scelp that deserves a 4-week heels cooling, and let that be an end to it.  Tohill and Brolly should be consigned to the sin-bin until they grow up a bit, or at least sidelined for Derry matches, if they're not capable of doing their job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ildanach on June 02, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
I felt sorry for tohill last night. The whole incident got hyped up when Brolly made a c**k of himself in the afternoon defending doherty. That meant that once tohill was on the sunday game he was going to be put in the same position by Spillane.
In fairness to Tohill he did admit it was a strike - "all be it at the lower end of the scale". Anyone on here who thinks he is going to come on the sunday game and call for another derry man to get month suspensions is living in cuckoo land. Not one of the panel will do that. (although i think i remember  K mcstay doing it when T mortimer had an altercation with finian Hanley a couple of years back)  The simple solution to this is not to have derrymen analysing derry games or meath men on meath games etc...There is enough analysists to cover games and hi lights wthout this situation arising.

I dont believe in trial by media. It is up to the gaa to get the house in order, take a leaf out og the rugby book and start using some sort of citing commisioner. Anyone who feels they have been hit off the ball or if the  ref has not dealt with the incident can then bring it to the commisioners attention within 48 hours by email. The 'sinner' has another 24 to give there side by email or phonecall and the suspensions handed out appropriately . There should be 48hours to appeall. Then a line drawn under it with the suspension being number of games i.e one /two/ three as against weeks.
The media should be contacted once an incident has been cited and asked not to show it until the approprate actions have been taken.this gives fair chance to all sides - although this maybe a bit of wishful thinking.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the green man on June 02, 2008, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on June 02, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
I felt sorry for tohill last night. The whole incident got hyped up when Brolly made a c**k of himself in the afternoon defending doherty. That meant that once tohill was on the sunday game he was going to be put in the same position by Spillane.
In fairness to Tohill he did admit it was a strike - "all be it at the lower end of the scale". Anyone on here who thinks he is going to come on the sunday game and call for another derry man to get month suspensions is living in cuckoo land. Not one of the panel will do that. (although i think i remember  K mcstay doing it when T mortimer had an altercation with finian Hanley a couple of years back)  The simple solution to this is not to have derrymen analysing derry games or meath men on meath games etc...There is enough analysists to cover games and hi lights wthout this situation arising.

I dont believe in trial by media. It is up to the gaa to get the house in order, take a leaf out og the rugby book and start using some sort of citing commisioner. Anyone who feels they have been hit off the ball or if the  ref has not dealt with the incident can then bring it to the commisioners attention within 48 hours by email. The 'sinner' has another 24 to give there side by email or phonecall and the suspensions handed out appropriately . There should be 48hours to appeall. Then a line drawn under it with the suspension being number of games i.e one /two/ three as against weeks.
The media should be contacted once an incident has been cited and asked not to show it until the approprate actions have been taken.this gives fair chance to all sides - although this maybe a bit of wishful thinking.



Agreed with everything in that post. One downside to the GAA is that there is never anyone to answer the hard calls r.e suspensions. The whole thing takes far too long to sort out. I had a fella sent off playing for me two years ago and I tried to find out if it ruled him out of a colleges game the next week. I still have yet to hear official conformation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: jodyb on June 02, 2008, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: the green man on June 02, 2008, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on June 02, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
I felt sorry for tohill last night. The whole incident got hyped up when Brolly made a c**k of himself in the afternoon defending doherty. That meant that once tohill was on the sunday game he was going to be put in the same position by Spillane.
In fairness to Tohill he did admit it was a strike - "all be it at the lower end of the scale". Anyone on here who thinks he is going to come on the sunday game and call for another derry man to get month suspensions is living in cuckoo land. Not one of the panel will do that. (although i think i remember  K mcstay doing it when T mortimer had an altercation with finian Hanley a couple of years back)  The simple solution to this is not to have derrymen analysing derry games or meath men on meath games etc...There is enough analysists to cover games and hi lights wthout this situation arising.

I dont believe in trial by media. It is up to the gaa to get the house in order, take a leaf out og the rugby book and start using some sort of citing commisioner. Anyone who feels they have been hit off the ball or if the  ref has not dealt with the incident can then bring it to the commisioners attention within 48 hours by email. The 'sinner' has another 24 to give there side by email or phonecall and the suspensions handed out appropriately . There should be 48hours to appeall. Then a line drawn under it with the suspension being number of games i.e one /two/ three as against weeks.
The media should be contacted once an incident has been cited and asked not to show it until the approprate actions have been taken.this gives fair chance to all sides - although this maybe a bit of wishful thinking.



Agreed with everything in that post. One downside to the GAA is that there is never anyone to answer the hard calls r.e suspensions. The whole thing takes far too long to sort out. I had a fella sent off playing for me two years ago and I tried to find out if it ruled him out of a colleges game the next week. I still have yet to hear official conformation.
How'd he do in the college game??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the green man on June 02, 2008, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: jodyb on June 02, 2008, 10:24:40 PM
How'd he do in the college game??

Never played. Dungannon rung Maghera about 10 mins after the game and said that he was suspended. Maghera wouldn't risk it to play him. The intriguing thing was I talk to the ref after the game and he said his ban only counted for the tournament he played in (N.I youth games). 5 mins after that the opposition manager came to me and said he couldn't play for Maghera the following week. Never found out who he knew he played for the college?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zapatista on June 03, 2008, 08:32:45 AM
Whats all this talk on the Sunday Game about McFadden and Bradley being Donegal and Derrys main Strikers? Is that a new position in the game? I though Brollys reply to O'Rourkes comparison with Chelsea and the penatly was briliant :D O'Rourke was embarrased.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 03, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 03, 2008, 08:32:45 AM
Whats all this talk on the Sunday Game about McFadden and Bradley being Donegal and Derrys main Strikers? Is that a new position in the game? I though Brollys reply to O'Rourkes comparison with Chelsea and the penatly was briliant :D O'Rourke was embarrased.

What did they say, i hate to see soccer analogies/comparisons in GAA.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zapatista on June 03, 2008, 09:06:05 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 03, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: Zapatista on June 03, 2008, 08:32:45 AM
Whats all this talk on the Sunday Game about McFadden and Bradley being Donegal and Derrys main Strikers? Is that a new position in the game? I though Brollys reply to O'Rourkes comparison with Chelsea and the penatly was briliant :D O'Rourke was embarrased.

What did they say, i hate to see soccer analogies/comparisons in GAA.

I don't remember the exact words but he made some referance to Chealsea and Donegal whan talking about the penalty. HE looked at Brolly and Brolly said - I don't know why you're looking at me, I don't know what your're talking about - O'Rourke tried to laugh it off but it was clearly an nervous laugh and brolly just shaked his head :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2008, 09:24:18 AM
I seriously think it's time the GAA took RTÉ to task on their slanted negative reporting on the games. They're in a competitive market now and if they wish to seize every opportunity to present the games in a bad light, they should understand that there will be consequences.

I'm not suggesting Sky-type hype, but we're at the other extreme at his stage, on the Sunday night programme at any rate, where the concentration on scelps and rows and the like is offensive. As I said elsewhere, they gave about 25 minutes to Donegal-Derry on Sunday. Of this, about 15 minutes were action, and ten discussion, or as they laughingly call it "analysis". Of this ten minutes, I'd say about three were spent talking about one fairly innocuous clout. That's 30% of the discussion devoted to one pretty minor negative event that constituted less than 1% of the game.

Contrast that with the coverage of, say the sending off in the European Soccer final in Moscow. As I understand it, that had a crucial effect on the outcome of the game, but I'm sure those who paid more attention to it than I did will verify that it didn't take up 30% of the studio discussion in RTÉ - even from a crew who apparently pride themselves on pointing out the warts on the face of their particular game.

More tellingly, contrast it with the coverage of the Ireland-Barbarians rugby game last week, which featured a series of incidents that were genuine thuggery - assaults with intent and violence that would get you a jail term in the real world. I don't recall them even being mentioned in the studio discussion, even though, like the scelp on the Sunday game, they seemed to escape the notice of the referee and the Sunday Game crew will no doubt give that as their reason for highlighting the GAA incident. Where were the slow motion replays of one player repeatedly pounding another's face with his fist while he was pinned the ground?

The televising of big matches is probably the most important weapon in the GAA's PR and games promotion armoury. Maybe we'll see a more active approach from the new PRO, when Danny Lynch goes out to pasture, but I think it's a disgrace that Lynch and everybody else whose job is promote the image of the games allows RTÉ to get away with this routine, week after week from the outraged, sanctimonious, unctuous ould wans in the studio, masquerading as analysts and dancing to the looney tunes of that clown in the presenter's chair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Doire abú on June 03, 2008, 09:26:30 AM
Quote from: the green man on June 02, 2008, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: jodyb on June 02, 2008, 10:24:40 PM
How'd he do in the college game??

Never played. Dungannon rung Maghera about 10 mins after the game and said that he was suspended. Maghera wouldn't risk it to play him. The intriguing thing was I talk to the ref after the game and he said his ban only counted for the tournament he played in (N.I youth games). 5 mins after that the opposition manager came to me and said he couldn't play for Maghera the following week. Never found out who he knew he played for the college?

What's NI youth games green man? Ulster Colleges do you mean|
?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the green man on June 03, 2008, 09:35:34 AM
Quote from: Doire abú on June 03, 2008, 09:26:30 AM

What's NI youth games green man? Ulster Colleges do you mean|
?

The Youth Games was something that the Sports Council used to run up to a few years ago. Run in a blitz style at The Dub.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 03, 2008, 09:52:45 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 03, 2008, 09:24:18 AM
As I said elsewhere, they gave about 25 minutes to Donegal-Derry on Sunday. Of this, about 15 minutes were action, and ten discussion, or as they laughingly call it "analysis". Of this ten minutes, I'd say about three were spent talking about one fairly innocuous clout. That's 30% of the discussion devoted to one pretty minor negative event that constituted less than 1% of the game.
It's much worse than that.
RTE had about 9 minutes game time and 14 mins analysis.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 03, 2008, 04:43:32 PM
As a contrary view ,the entire games are shown on Setanta during the week and are on the RTE website, so people can see the incidents that interest them, other than on the Sunday game. RTE presumably believe that the broader TV audience want the analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 03, 2008, 04:44:47 PM
Aye, if you have Setanta or the Internet. Quite a lot of people don't have Setanta, and as many again have either dial up or no internet access, especially the traditional RTE demographic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 03, 2008, 05:27:30 PM
Tried using the RTE website but it won't work for me. Have broadband and downloaded the real player as it told me to. What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 03, 2008, 05:31:35 PM
What error are you getting Seanie? Did you try connecting or playing any other stream via your Real Player?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 04, 2008, 10:45:42 PM
After it plays the stupid Vodafone intro it just says "connecting" and nowt happens. My Real Player mustn't be loaded correctly?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 04, 2008, 10:51:04 PM
I had that problem Seanie, until I removed realplayer completely from the computer and downloaded/setup it directly from the RTE website, it's fine now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on June 08, 2008, 10:33:15 PM
Davey Fitz seems a good addition to the team . Dealt with the question about the Waterford Job well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 08, 2008, 11:11:38 PM
pity they wouldn't give davis us p45 an elbow to the head now is a yellow card this week, but a red card last week. time he was told to pursue other ventures.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2008, 12:38:27 PM
Elbow to the head? what incident was that?
Is that another careless inaccurate description?

I heard him talk about the Down player inflicting a (retaliatory) facial blow with the outstretched fist or hand.
I don't know what Davis said last week.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on June 09, 2008, 12:50:13 PM
Quotepity they wouldn't give davis us p45 an elbow to the head now is a yellow card this week, but a red card last week. time he was told to pursue other ventures.             

I think he is a garda by trade. Sometimes this is reflected in his analysis and he seems to forget that its sport he is analysing and not a Friday night shamozelle on Patrick's street.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 15, 2008, 11:06:19 PM
I have thought that the Sunday game was pretty good this year, but tonights programme is a disgrace.

Supposed highlights of the Cavan v Armagh game neglected to show two goal chances, a penalty claim and Hearty pulling one out from over the bar.

Down v Tyrone highlights failed to get across the momentum in the second half, where Down drove ahead before Tommy Mc Guigan hauled them back into it. Poor editing. And then in his wonderfull analysis Tommy Lyons said that Down only won the game because they got a goal.... WTF, were Down not the better team on the night?

Galway v Leitrim, how could they not be sure about the penalty claim for Leitrim before half time? That was a stone wall, nailed on penalty and they didn't have the guts to call it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2008, 11:09:02 PM
QuoteI have thought that the Sunday game was pretty good this year, but tonights programme is a disgrace.

Supposed highlights of the Cavan v Armagh game neglected to show two goal chances, a penalty claim and Hearty pulling one out from over the bar.

Was very disappointed with the length of highlights. Couldn't have been much more than 5 minutes. Also Tommy Lyons didn't seem to realise that Charlie Vernon and Aaron Kernan switched positions from the throw in.

Thought the whole thing was very rushed. Suppose they have 5 games to fit into an hour but woulda liked to have seen more action.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AhFeckRef on June 15, 2008, 11:44:06 PM

Jesus Christ, the patronising attitude towards Leitrim was terrible.  Sure weren't we great to turn up on the day and give a "spirited" display. 

Also why could they not come down of the fence on Galvin! No mater what the CCC are going to do I believe that the Sunday Game should not have condoned this behaviour.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mhacadoir on June 15, 2008, 11:48:15 PM
they looked scared to say anything on the Galvin matter. tommy lyons stumbled and mumbled bout it not being clever but he "is a sound lad", where as tohill sat firmly on the fence, sayin nothing.

i was looking forward to seeing the highlights from newry last nite but they were put together very badly, showed nothing of the pattern of the game.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2008, 11:59:31 PM
And what is all this 'due process' rubbish, of course all players are entitled to go through whatever disciplinary system is in vogue at the moment but can SG analysts not give an opinion on the issues that a game throws up? Nobody wants analysts to be controversial for the sake of it but it is just as annoying when they sit on the fence about tough issues.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 16, 2008, 12:04:51 AM
but when they highlight incidents up north they get hammered for it so you can't blame them at times.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 16, 2008, 12:21:34 AM
On this forum maybe Indiana but sure that should be the least of their worries! I rarely watch a soccer or rugby game in full but I often switch over to watch the analysis of the games as they are often entertaining and they rarely pull punches. The SG in contrast is banal and boring with little or no insightful analysis of the issues. I've said this before but ex-players are often friends of current players and as such are often unsble to give unbiased, hard hitting views on the games. The SG is now falling between two stools, it is neither offering extensive highlights nor in depth analysis but only micky mouse versions of both.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 16, 2008, 09:53:24 AM
On the contrary I thought Tommy Lyons spoke very openly and clearly on the Galvin matter. Tohill completely sat on the fence. Dara .... well I think there was a closing of the ranks there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Two Hands FFS on June 16, 2008, 10:03:51 AM
Two token minutes from the Antrim v Down hurling. OK it might not be top quality but it's a provincial final. I bet the other 7 seven provincial finals played this summer will get live coverage & lenghty highlights. But I wasnt suprised. A joke as usual

Too much analysis after the cavan - Armagh match...everyone wanted to see coverage of the Tyrone - Down from saturday night
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 17, 2008, 03:08:30 PM
Lads and lassies - a bit off topic (sorry thread police) but whats the tune that played over the Etihad advert just at the end of the ad breaks on the live programme on Sunday? I saw the video recently but didn't catch the name and its hilarious. Basically its a bar in Wales on St Davids Day in 1989 and some guy just lands in and starts these crazy dance moves much to the consternation of all around (including a guy in a fetching vest who spits his pint of bitter across the room!).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2008, 03:24:47 PM
Just for you Seanie.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=oMLCrzy9TEs (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=oMLCrzy9TEs)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2008, 03:25:44 PM
Seanie, don't know the add but sounds like Utah Saints - Something Good


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oMLCrzy9TEs (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oMLCrzy9TEs)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2008, 03:26:23 PM
Quick off the mark there Jinxy  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 17, 2008, 03:42:52 PM
Thanks guys. Can't view youtube here but will have a look when I go home and prove to my wife it wasn't something I made up!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 17, 2008, 03:48:12 PM
I hope I misheard this, but in a noisy pub in Dublin on Sunday night I thought I heard Tommy Lyons saying something about Armagh scoring "on the second phase". Please tell me I'm wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Uladh on June 17, 2008, 03:51:17 PM

Twas hard to pick that phrase out between all of the business and Grid iron speak the man rehershes and the high pitched "yeknow pat"s.

i love the way he has to refer to his notes to read out the name of thse who "he" thinks has played well. nice touch that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoisgaa on June 17, 2008, 04:46:34 PM
Dublin/Wexford replay won't be live on TV
By Cóilín Duffy

Next Sunday's Leinster Senior Hurling Championship semi-final replay between Dublin and Wexford has not been granted live TV coverage it has emerged.

Despite RTÉ showing clashing games on two occasions live last year, the new agreement doesn't allow this according to the Leinster Council.

"The new TV negotiations this year ensured there wouldn't be a clash of live TV games," a Leinster Council Spokesman said today.

"With the entry of TV3 into the market, none of the rights holders are allowed to broadcast games which would clash with other live GAA transmissions."

However there may be a snag in the agreement, for instance if TV3 don't have the rights to cover a live game – such as in the case of last Sunday where RTÉ broadcast
the Connacht SFC semi-final between Galway and Leitrim, and the Leinster SHC semi-final involving Kilkenny and Offaly live.

If a replay had been fixed for last Sunday to clash with those fixtures, there may have been a possibility that it could have been broadcast on RTÉ 1 as the clashing games would have been on two channels of the same broadcaster.

Ulster football fans were angered already this year when the BBC was not allowed show the initial Tyrone/Down Ulster SFC quarter-final live.

RTÉ2 were showing the Cork/Tipperary Munster SHC tie the same day, while TV3 had exclusive live rights to the Dublin/Louth Leinster SFC quarter-final.

In a statement on the BBC website, The Championship presenter Austin O'Callaghan explained that the BBC would have loved to have broadcast the game live, but that contractual reasons denied them from showing, what turned out to be the first drawn game of the Summer.

"The BBC is very keen to show the game live but the television contract simply does not allow us to do so," O'Callaghan said.

"The GAA's Primary TV rights holders for the football and hurling championships are RTE and TV3. The BBC is a secondary rights holder.

"This means we can show the same game live in the Ulster Championship simultaneously with RTE - or in the case of the Ulster final, with TV3.

"But we cannot go "head-to-head" with either broadcaster when they're broadcasting a different, non-Ulster Championship game at the same time."
However to further complicate matters, the BBC have already shown live on two occasions this year, games which have clashed with other Live GAA TV transmissions.

Last Sunday's Armagh and Cavan Ulster SFC quarter-final was broadcast live on BBC2, up against the latter stages of Offaly/Kilkenny in the Leinster SHC and the majority of the Galway/Leitrim Connacht SFC semi-final.

The Beeb had previously clashed with RTÉ when they showed Antrim/Cavan live in the Ulster SFC, on the same day the Southern broadcaster showed the Wicklow/Kildare and Galway/Roscommon football games.

But the BBC and RTÉ are allowed show games head-to-head, with a special dispensation given to fledgling station TV3, when they are showing live games.

As a new broadcaster entering the market TV3 have been given a leg up by the GAA, who have ensured that games broadcast by RTÉ and the BBC don't clash with the commercial station.

Whatever game TV3 are showing live regardless of province or code, neither of the state broadcasters can go up against them. This is to ensure that TV3 can establish itself as a new channel for watching Gaelic Games, and this practice is not uncommon among broadcasting contracts for various sports across the world.

It is understood though that GAA fans will be able to keep their hurling appetites at bay through the internet via the RTE.ie GAA Championships Media Player, which is expected to stream the Dublin/Wexford replay live. However this has yet to be confirmed.

RTÉ has already earned the wrath of GAA supporters this year, by failing to broadcast the Offaly/Westmeath Leinster SFC quarter-final live, and instead showing a Euro 2008 group game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 17, 2008, 04:53:16 PM
QuoteAt one stage, it was - "Ye know, Michael.....Ah, sorry, you're not as good looking as Michael."

Yeah, that was really cringeworthy stuff alright. He's an awful dose.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 17, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 17, 2008, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 17, 2008, 03:51:17 PM

Twas hard to pick that phrase out between all of the business and Grid iron speak the man rehershes and the high pitched "yeknow pat"s.
At one stage, it was - "Ye know, Michael.....Ah, sorry, you're not as good looking as Michael."

Pat was fairly quick off the mark with a corrective "Pat" when he called him Michael and as for that "you're not as good looking as Michael" wtf  :o Has the SG gone all bleeding metrosexual on us???

Quote from: Hardy on June 17, 2008, 03:48:12 PM
I hope I misheard this, but in a noisy pub in Dublin on Sunday night I thought I heard Tommy Lyons saying something about Armagh scoring "on the second phase". Please tell me I'm wrong.

Definitely remember him mumbling about "turn overs" alright, not so sure about "second phases", he's an awful plank.

Got a good laugh from Joanne making eyes at Dara O'Cinnede, yous don't stand a chance lads...  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2008, 05:49:45 PM
The younger lads in general like O'Cinneide, Goggins, Connell (TV3) seem to be far more articulate and interesting to listen to. The likes of Davis, Lyons etc. just parrot cliches and I'm sick of listening to them at this stage. McStay is a pain in the arse but at least he makes the odd interesting point. As for big Anthony, as Superintendent Chalmers said about Principal Skinner, "The rod up that man's butt, must have a rod up it's butt!"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 17, 2008, 11:52:59 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 17, 2008, 03:51:17 PM
i love the way he has to refer to his notes to read out the name of thse who "he" thinks has played well. nice touch that.

I noticed that alright myself, Lyons isn't worst for that though, the award for that goes to Davis
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:25:50 PM
Delayed because a game where they can't even score once in 120 minutes  ::)
I can rarely see the attraction of soccer these days, was an exciting shoot out though.
Just to pick one game, Wexford/Laois game had 30 scores in 70 minutes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Please stop bitching, i'd say that match got higher viewer numbers than the sunday game will get!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Please stop bitching, i'd say that match got higher viewer numbers than the sunday game will get!

Does that mean the quality of the sport was better?? Probably does in your world  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 22, 2008, 10:51:43 PM
Did Spillane look uncomfortable or what, after that Aprés Match skit!  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 22, 2008, 10:51:43 PM
Did Spillane look uncomfortable or what, after that Aprés Match skit!  ;D

It was very funny and seemed to capture the essence of the man  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 22, 2008, 10:56:41 PM
Seemed to be alright. God Jim Carney gets on my nerves.

I'll probably switch it off for a few mins after this. McStay's smug face after that could result in a TV being put beyond repair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on June 22, 2008, 11:07:28 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 22, 2008, 10:51:43 PM
Did Spillane look uncomfortable or what, after that Aprés Match skit!  ;D

Great sketch .dont worry it will only spur him on
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 22, 2008, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Please stop bitching, i'd say that match got higher viewer numbers than the sunday game will get!
Most likely, given the time The Sunday Game is pushed back to!
But alas, The Sunday Game didn't come on, at least not for those in the North needing VirginMedia to get RTÉ, as they never unblocked the reception following the soccer coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on June 22, 2008, 11:25:01 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:25:50 PM
Delayed because a game where they can't even score once in 120 minutes  ::)
I can rarely see the attraction of soccer these days, was an exciting shoot out though.
Just to pick one game, Wexford/Laois game had 30 scores in 70 minutes.
you should have watched more of the euro championships then, they've been excellent, whilst tonight's game wasn't the best, in general they've been a refreshing level above that shite that sky tell us is the best in the world - the premiership!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 11:30:49 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 22, 2008, 10:56:41 PM
I'll probably switch it off for a few mins after this. McStay's smug face after that could result in a TV being put beyond repair.

I can feel your pain, he didn't hold back with the boot, Bernie "bollixy hole" Flynn does the same with us!

At least he had the good manners to admit that it wasn't a penalty
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Please stop bitching, i'd say that match got higher viewer numbers than the sunday game will get!

Does that mean the quality of the sport was better?? Probably does in your world  :D

god man open your eyes to the outside world!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 11:46:56 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Please stop bitching, i'd say that match got higher viewer numbers than the sunday game will get!

Does that mean the quality of the sport was better?? Probably does in your world  :D

god man open your eyes to the outside world!

Very intelligent response, I will reiterate the question, Does higher viewer numbers mean that the quality of the sport is better?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 22, 2008, 11:50:03 PM
Thon dark-haired blade had the hots for Tohill. The electricity was palpable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 22, 2008, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 11:46:56 PM
Very intelligent response, I will reiterate the question, Does higher viewer numbers mean that the quality of the sport is better?
Of course it does! Just take music as another example - Westlife have a record breaking number of #1 singles, therefore the quality must be better than that of other music.  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 22, 2008, 11:56:52 PM
You have to admit though, Tohill looked well in his L'oreal blusher and Primark maroon shirt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 23, 2008, 12:05:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 22, 2008, 11:56:52 PM
You have to admit though, Tohill looked well in his L'oreal blusher and Primark maroon shirt.
Quite possibly painstakingly sewn together by some poor child in India.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7461496.stm
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tankie on June 23, 2008, 12:12:36 AM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 11:46:56 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:45:02 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Please stop bitching, i'd say that match got higher viewer numbers than the sunday game will get!

Does that mean the quality of the sport was better?? Probably does in your world  :D

god man open your eyes to the outside world!

Very intelligent response, I will reiterate the question, Does higher viewer numbers mean that the quality of the sport is better?


How and Who decides which sport is of better quality? You must except that people like soccer, you and I may not but there is a huge proportion of the population that does like the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 23, 2008, 12:38:24 AM
Anybody else notice that Pat "de bollix" introuduced the highlights of Sat night's Ulster semi final as a game between Derry and "Armagh" :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 23, 2008, 12:46:22 AM
Yip
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zapatista on June 23, 2008, 08:25:02 AM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 23, 2008, 12:38:24 AM
Anybody else notice that Pat "de bollix" introuduced the highlights of Sat night's Ulster semi final as a game between Derry and "Armagh" :(

At the opening credits he also said Wexford are looking for their first final in half a decade. I could barely watch that crap last night. The way they keep switching to the birds eye view of 3 blokes on a couch didn't make any sense. The pass over from Pat to yer wan in a different room in the studio to get Tohills view didn't make any sense. He was sitting about 10 yards away and they had to shout across the room at each other. The freeze frame power point analyzes looked stupid and was more about the presentation than the game. Then the pass back to Pat to find Tohill on the couch with him. Then again jumping to and from the birds eye view. Stomach churning stuff. And again they spend as much time talking about referees as they do action.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Yes I Would on June 23, 2008, 09:54:22 AM
Embarassing stuff altogether.
That Spillane man is just too much of a redkneck to be anywhere near presenting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 23, 2008, 10:25:52 AM
Pat is gonna have to write his name down on a postit note and stick it to his head or else Tommy "Gain Line" Lyons is gonna be calling him Michael for the rest of the summer...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 23, 2008, 10:46:30 AM
Is he deliberately calling him Michael ?

He was talking about some player last night and he said "that''s what is really good about a really good player !" FFS
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zapatista on June 23, 2008, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 23, 2008, 09:54:22 AM
Embarassing stuff altogether.
That Spillane man is just too much of a redkneck to be anywhere near presenting.


Puke TV
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2008, 11:50:57 AM
I thought Brolly going on about Peter McDonnells post-match comment about the donkey was priceless. ;D
Lyster looked a bit worried for a second!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on June 30, 2008, 12:01:13 PM
After watching over the weeknd, I believe TV3 do a better job than RTE. Better presenters,  analysists and no Spillanes. Didnt see the Sunday game though, not on "The Island"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 30, 2008, 12:16:18 PM
turned it over last night. terrible. spillane opened with a predictibly tiresome dig at ulster football. They focused on the action for a while then once again put a referee's decision over a 2nd yellow under the microscope. This was the point at which I turned over cause im sick off pat digging and stirring thin air. As a neutral I could not give a shit about Tony Davis' or whoevers opinion on a minor yellow card incident. This type of stuff has bogged The Sunday Game down. Seeing the likes of Clarke was of much more interest. More focus on FOOTBALL please
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 30, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
Some of the "highlights" from last nights show were:

Little Bernie doing the fancy analysis piece and making a complete and utter bags of it. I can see why he did not go into management after the football career ended!

Davis going off on one about Henry coming forward and scoring a point for the Dubs and Tohill completely over ruling him by saying that if the Dubs backs hadn't have come forward during the game they would have lost. Tohill made the far more convincing argument (as usual)

Then after the Armagh Down game they were discussing the sending off, Tohill said that in fairness it probably was a second yellow and then Davis, as if just to have a shot back at Tohill completely disagreed with him. He sounded like a fool.

Tohill was right on both fronts (IMO) and that Davis is a clown and really should be dropped, along with wee Bernie.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on June 30, 2008, 12:24:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2008, 11:50:57 AM
I thought Brolly going on about Peter McDonnells post-match comment about the donkey was priceless. ;D

Had my Dad and I in stitches. Swear to God, it's the only reason I tune into The Sunday Game, to hear what Brolly comes out with next  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 30, 2008, 01:46:38 PM
What was the comment?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2008, 01:57:24 PM
From what I gathered, McDonnell used a saying along the lines of (and this may not be 100% correct) "Riding the donkey too close to the tail." This was a new one for Joe and he was speculating as to how the saying came about. He reckoned it must have originated in South Armagh but Lyster intervened to cut to an ad break before things got out of hand!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Feckitt on June 30, 2008, 02:26:38 PM
What?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2008, 03:12:46 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on June 30, 2008, 03:24:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2008, 01:57:24 PM
From what I gathered, McDonnell used a saying along the lines of (and this may not be 100% correct) "Riding the donkey too close to the tail." This was a new one for Joe and he was speculating as to how the saying came about. He reckoned it must have originated in South Armagh but Lyster intervened to cut to an ad break before things got out of hand!

Close, Brolly said he never heard of that before and wondered what McDonnell was on about. Then he said that "I supposed it's South Armagh and we all know what they get up to down there" to which Lyster cut to an ad break before Brolly expanded on that ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gerry on July 02, 2008, 08:39:57 PM
nobnation clip

http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2008/pc/pod-v-160608-4m14s-nobnation.mp3 (http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2008/pc/pod-v-160608-4m14s-nobnation.mp3)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 02, 2008, 08:53:03 PM
Jess that's class! How come I've never heard of that before. "Oh Joanne I can see you in a big white Derry jersey, only a Derry Jersey!!"

That's be sweet  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on July 02, 2008, 09:42:25 PM
"This year's Championship has been mildly distracted by the goings on of the sissy, pansy Protestant game of soccer currently going on in Europe"  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on July 02, 2008, 09:46:17 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 30, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
Some of the "highlights" from last nights show were:

Little Bernie doing the fancy analysis piece and making a complete and utter bags of it. I can see why he did not go into management after the football career ended!

Davis going off on one about Henry coming forward and scoring a point for the Dubs and Tohill completely over ruling him by saying that if the Dubs backs hadn't have come forward during the game they would have lost. Tohill made the far more convincing argument (as usual)

Then after the Armagh Down game they were discussing the sending off, Tohill said that in fairness it probably was a second yellow and then Davis, as if just to have a shot back at Tohill completely disagreed with him. He sounded like a fool.

Tohill was right on both fronts (IMO) and that Davis is a clown and really should be dropped, along with wee Bernie.
What exactly was Flynn trying to tell us? The caption on the screen implied that he was highlighting examples of slick hand-passing but he kept pointing out how so many of the players were taking the wrong options! I'm not sure if Joanne Cantwell adds anything to the programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on July 02, 2008, 09:55:26 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on July 02, 2008, 09:46:17 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 30, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
Some of the "highlights" from last nights show were:

Little Bernie doing the fancy analysis piece and making a complete and utter bags of it. I can see why he did not go into management after the football career ended!

Davis going off on one about Henry coming forward and scoring a point for the Dubs and Tohill completely over ruling him by saying that if the Dubs backs hadn't have come forward during the game they would have lost. Tohill made the far more convincing argument (as usual)

Then after the Armagh Down game they were discussing the sending off, Tohill said that in fairness it probably was a second yellow and then Davis, as if just to have a shot back at Tohill completely disagreed with him. He sounded like a fool.

Tohill was right on both fronts (IMO) and that Davis is a clown and really should be dropped, along with wee Bernie.
What exactly was Flynn trying to tell us? The caption on the screen implied that he was highlighting examples of slick hand-passing but he kept pointing out how so many of the players were taking the wrong options! I'm not sure if Joanne Cantwell adds anything to the programme.

Going by the nob nation clip, I don't think that big Anthony agrees with you  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: wherefromreferee? on July 06, 2008, 07:07:39 PM
No doubt on tonights show, after the highlights of the Munster Final, the show will once again view the 3 red cards decisions from every angle and in slow motion.  While another thread has already been started on this non-contact issue, I wonder what the experts will say tonight.  Nicholas Murphy will be clumsy, but probably deserved the 2 yellows cards.  Mark O'Se's looked bad in slow motion, but wasn't even a yellow IMO.  I didn't see what Dara got the first yellow for, but the second was pathetic.  Another game ruined by an over fussy referee.  We'll wait and see what big Tohill has to say.  Dara O Cinneide might be on the panel so it should hopefully be an interesting show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on July 06, 2008, 07:19:10 PM
I wouldn't mind them analysing Kerry's point that may not have been early in the first half. Not that it made any difference in the end.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: wherefromreferee? on July 06, 2008, 07:22:16 PM
Was that the free from Gooch??  Looked wide.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tatler Jack on July 06, 2008, 07:40:26 PM
Maybe Spillane will suggest that Donaghy is a poor man's Michael Cussen :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 06, 2008, 07:43:16 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on July 06, 2008, 07:07:39 PM
No doubt on tonights show, after the highlights of the Munster Final, the show will once again view the 3 red cards decisions from every angle and in slow motion.  While another thread has already been started on this non-contact issue, I wonder what the experts will say tonight.  Nicholas Murphy will be clumsy, but probably deserved the 2 yellows cards.  Mark O'Se's looked bad in slow motion, but wasn't even a yellow IMO.  I didn't see what Dara got the first yellow for, but the second was pathetic.  Another game ruined by an over fussy referee.  We'll wait and see what big Tohill has to say.  Dara O Cinneide might be on the panel so it should hopefully be an interesting show.

The ref might not have been great but I and Im sure many other neutrals really enjoyed the second half, particularly the performance of Cussen. This was a real upset and helps open up the championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: wherefromreferee? on July 06, 2008, 08:14:21 PM
I meant to put a question mark after that statement.  It was meant to read, another game ruined by an over fussy referee??  I thought the game was great, but the referee will be the centre of the chat on the programme tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on July 06, 2008, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on July 06, 2008, 07:22:16 PM
Was that the free from Gooch??  Looked wide.
That's the one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on July 06, 2008, 11:24:14 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on July 06, 2008, 09:36:54 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on July 06, 2008, 07:22:16 PM
Was that the free from Gooch??  Looked wide.
That's the one.

Looked well wide to me a the game the umpires were asleep anyway made no differecne today but maybe further down the road these guys could cost some team
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full back on August 17, 2008, 10:09:49 PM
Eoin Kelly collecting the MOTM award wearing a Sesame Street t-shirt (or something like that)  :D :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ludermor on August 17, 2008, 10:41:27 PM
And why does he say we and us when talking about dublin!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 17, 2008, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2008, 10:38:29 PM
Why does Lyons keep saying 'today' when talking about the Tyrone - Dublin match? Hmmm.....

He's drunk or else he;s doting !!!!

I always thought he didn't know what he was talking about - but it's just that he's doting I  think !  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 17, 2008, 10:43:21 PM
And why do they keep on discussing Dublin and barely any mention of Tyrone  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 17, 2008, 10:47:50 PM
Do ye reckon that that bit on the football was recorded after the match yesterday which would explain Lyons 'today' ?

Discussion was all about Dublin and nothing about Tyrone and their chances of All Ireland success. Perhaps Spillane doesnt want to thik about it!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Muzz on August 17, 2008, 10:53:13 PM
Did he not say though - 24 hours later a few times.  I know he could just have been saying this but I just think that with the highlights shown there and then he kept getting mixed up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on August 17, 2008, 10:53:35 PM
In fairness Mc Stay did say it was a bad weekend for te pundits predicting the hurling & football this weekend.  He was maybe just half cut
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on August 17, 2008, 10:53:45 PM
Lyon's   "a new dublin manager will have to shake up the tree"
MacStay "shake up the tree? he will have to blow the bloody tree up"..... a classic :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2008, 10:53:59 PM
Maybe, just maybe, they recorded it on the Friday....mmmm...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 17, 2008, 10:54:13 PM
I am going to rewind my sky + and study Spillane's appearance during the hurling discussion and then the football discussion and see can I 'spot the difference'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 17, 2008, 11:09:21 PM
No. Def all recorded today. At the end of the progarmme Spillane talked about the results of huring and football with Lyons / McStay in the studio.

Lyons just doesn t know what day it is !!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 17, 2008, 11:11:19 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 17, 2008, 11:09:21 PM
No. Def all recorded today. At the end of the progarmme Spillane talked about the results of huring and football with Lyons / McStay in the studio.

Lyons just doesn t know what day it is !!!!


He even came out with the famous "arseboxing" one tonight !!!! What the f--k is arseboxing ???????  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on August 17, 2008, 11:36:58 PM
Did Lyons say he wouldn't mind a wee cuddle from Pillar's wife?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2008, 11:49:28 PM
I wouldn't mind getting a cuddle at Lyons myself. Cuddly looking man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zapatista on August 18, 2008, 08:11:29 AM
On the final part of the hurling analyse Pat said "we have received some texts from viewers asking us to look at two incidents" the two incidents were the shoulder to the head and the hurl smashed on the leg. Does anyone really believe viewers texted in requesting this? I don't believe it for a minute. This was there excuse to give it a lot of air time and leave it to the end of the hurling discussion going into a break.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Barney on August 18, 2008, 08:39:28 AM
Barely any mention of Tyrone at all.

And the long sad montage about the Dubs exit brought a tear to even the biggest man  :-\ Rdiculous
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sam03/05 on August 18, 2008, 08:46:18 AM
the tribute to Ronnie Drew was piss poor as well - lasted about 20 seconds
they should have played Dublin in the rare ould times and showed some footage of dubs teams down the years
this would have been a better tribute to the man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zapatista on August 18, 2008, 08:55:11 AM
Quote from: sam03/05 on August 18, 2008, 08:46:18 AM
the tribute to Ronnie Drew was piss poor as well - lasted about 20 seconds
they should have played Dublin in the rare ould times and showed some footage of dubs teams down the years
this would have been a better tribute to the man.

I don't think so. Ronnie Drew's death has nothing to do with the GAA. It probably shouldn't have been included at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ExiledGael on May 16, 2011, 12:43:42 PM
Didn't know where to ask this so digged this thread up.
Is there a way to watch the Sunday Game online in Northern Ireland. It says Ireland only and not accessible in your area.
Can this be bypassed or linked somehow to view it outside Ireland?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 16, 2011, 01:02:10 PM
It will work fine as long as your ISP records that you are in NI as distinct from Britain where Setanta has the rights. Take it up with your ISP.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ExiledGael on May 16, 2011, 04:36:52 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 16, 2011, 01:02:10 PM
It will work fine as long as your ISP records that you are in NI as distinct from Britain where Setanta has the rights. Take it up with your ISP.

Did just that (with BT) and they said I cannot view Ireland only content unless I have a business account. ISP already registered to NI.
Does the Sunday Game appear on RTE player later in the week?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Go home ref on June 12, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
It has to be said that Martin Carneys twisted baby finger is creeping me out big time!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 12, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: Go home ref on June 12, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
It has to be said that Martin Carneys twisted baby finger is creeping me out big time!

Take it out of your mouth.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2011, 10:54:38 PM
Is Anthony Tohill not involved with RTE anymore?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 12, 2011, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Go home ref on June 12, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
It has to be said that Martin Carneys twisted baby finger is creeping me out big time!

I'm watching it a bit later here and its totally creeping me out as well!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 12, 2011, 11:11:23 PM
Quote from: Go home ref on June 12, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
It has to be said that Martin Carneys twisted baby finger is creeping me out big time!

Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on June 13, 2011, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 12, 2011, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Go home ref on June 12, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
It has to be said that Martin Carneys twisted baby finger is creeping me out big time!

I'm watching it a bit later here and its totally creeping me out as well!

My god he was mocking us by continually holding it in front of the camera for badness! Put me off my food!
I paused and re-wound the tv to be sure i wasnt seeing things. It's properly fucked up!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 13, 2011, 12:28:15 AM
He must have got it caught in a pto shaft or something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 13, 2011, 12:30:29 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 13, 2011, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 12, 2011, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Go home ref on June 12, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
It has to be said that Martin Carneys twisted baby finger is creeping me out big time!

I'm watching it a bit later here and its totally creeping me out as well!

My god he was mocking us by continually holding it in front of the camera for badness! Put me off my food!
I paused and re-wound the tv to be sure i wasnt seeing things. It's properly fucked up!

Thank God! Thought it was just me!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 24, 2011, 11:23:37 PM
Jesus that was painful to watch, awful debate between Brolly and Davis. Manage to insult Limerick, Down and all the other remaining quarter-finalists in 5 minutes of subjective analysis..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:28:32 PM
‎"The GAA's equivalent of the territorial army."  Joe Brolly on Down's defence.  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: borderfox on July 24, 2011, 11:32:51 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:28:32 PM
‎"The GAA's equivalent of the territorial army."  Joe Brolly on Down's defence.  :D
lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:38:22 PM
What did Brolly write about Cork? it didn't go down so well with Tony Davis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:40:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:38:22 PM
What did Brolly write about Cork? it didn't go down so well with Tony Davis.

THE news that 'Crash, Bang, Wallop', the video of Cork's All-Ireland year will soon be available in shops, is welcome news for all lovers of rugby league. They have been able to bludgeon and bore their way through every team in the country with their primitive approach, but as we saw for the umpteenth time last Sunday, the Kingdom are far too smart for them.
By half-time the score was 1-10 to 0-5 and could have been worse for Cork, whose tactic of soloing hard at the opposing defence was only serving to give them sore heads.
Crash! Pierce O'Neill ran into Aidan O'Mahoney, head down. Bang! Noel O'Leary charged into Sheehan. Wallop! Paul Kerrigan collided with O'Sullivan, the linesmen, the referee, the corner flag and the goalpost and still kept solo-running.
I said last year they are a dumb team and I saw nothing on Sunday that might cause me to alter that assessment. Overwhelming domination of the middle third, ceaseless hard running at defences and two excellent free-takers have brought them an All-Ireland and make them very hard to beat. On top of that, they play with courage and integrity and in that regard, they are moulded in the image of their creator. However, they are not in the same league as Kerry. Nor Tyrone in their pomp, even if that pomp began deflating three years ago and if Mickey keeps going the way he is, it will soon be flat as a pancake.

Before the 2009 All-Ireland final between Kerry and Cork, I was wandering about in the bowels of the Hogan Stand. I like to go early on All-Ireland final morning and see the place awakening. Say hello to this and that, go into the RTE vans, wind Tony Davis up and so on.
A few hours before the Kerry team arrived, their kit man pulled up in his van and started unloading the precious green and gold kits.
"Show me the number 13″ I asked him.
- "Now, Derryman, you know all about number 13."
"Ah go on, show me it." He took it out reverentially, like a pilgrim who had discovered the last stitch on Padre Pio's gown.
- "There it is," he said, "A lot of greats have worn it."
"Maybe this latest one is the greatest of them all?" I suggested.
- "You might be right, Derryman, you might be right."
"Will you beat them today?"
- "They're a big shtrong team," he said, "But I'd say it'll be the same old shtory."

A few hours later, the same old shtory did indeed unfold, Kerry's skills and footballing know-how reducing Cork's battering ram to a pile of woodworm.
The second half in Killarney last week emphasised Cork's strengths and weaknesses. These remain identical to what they were two years ago. The theory was that if they could win the All-Ireland, this would be a psychological breakthrough. Free of the baggage of failure, they would quickly improve and become a great team.
It has not worked out that way. Their two dangerous forwards remain starved of possession in a three man full forward line. They are static because they know the ball will not be kicked in long and accurately and usually they are behind a sweeper. Against Down last year, they finally got free in the second half to kick two points apiece, courtesy of Down's decision not to play a sweeper and Cork's overwhelming midfield domination.
In spite of everything, they collapsed over the line by a single point, against a Down team that were tourists accidentally arrived in Croke Park. Wee James nearly pulled off the greatest con since the Eiffel Tower was sold to a man from Cullyhanna.
In the semi-final, the Dubs had imploded when they were five points clear with five minutes to go. They fell into the trap of fouling the hard runners as they crashed against the Dublin defences in wave after wave. No doubt, this is difficult to cope with and requires very good discipline and concentration. A penalty and three frees saw Cork into the final, again by a single point.

On Sunday in Killarney, they floundered, but still managed to keep in touch, courtesy of hard running, frees and the virtually obligatory penalty. The over-rated Graham Canty was again shown up, by both Star and Declan O'Sullivan.
Four points from play in the first half doesn't tell the whole story. "What do people see in Canty?" a Kerry man texted me at half-time.
- "I don't know" was my response.
In fairness, Kerry people are very harsh judges of a footballer. Someone like Graham, whose strengths are his physique, athleticism and never say die attitude underwhelms them. They have that in Kerry, but on top of that they have the skills. Graham does not. He has been described as a star in the hybrid Rules game and is always discussed as a great in the media. I don't see it.
Where Kerry footballers are expected to be able to score, regardless of the number on their back, Cork's number 5 to 9 cannot, nor can they distribute the ball well. Their two midfielders are big hearted athletes but their skills are clumsy to say the least. Brian Sheehan meanwhile can kick points effortlessly from any position within sixty yards of goal.

Kerry remain the gold standard. Tomas O'Se and Paul Galvin will return in a few weeks. Come the third Sunday in september I will stroll over to the Kerry kitman when he arrives, he will greet me with "Well Derryman", and so the world will turn. The same old shtory.

Sourced: GaelicLife.com (http://www.gaeliclife.com/2011/07/14/joe-brolly-on-corks-imminent-demise/)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: samwin08 on July 24, 2011, 11:41:46 PM
Time for cutbacks at RTE. Me thinks  Brolly had a glass of wine with his dinner tonight before he came on the programme. Time for Brolly and Spillane to move on. Really think Brolly has lost it. Fair play to Tony Davis for contradicting him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 24, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
Quote from: samwin08 on July 24, 2011, 11:41:46 PM
Time for cutbacks at RTE. Me thinks  Brolly had a glass of wine with his dinner tonight before he came on the programme. Time for Brolly and Spillane to move on. Really think Brolly has lost it. Fair play to Tony Nation for contradicting him.

who the f**k is he ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: samwin08 on July 24, 2011, 11:45:59 PM
Brolly: Cork 'primitive', Canty 'overrated'
By Terry Reilly

Saturday, July 23, 2011

FORMER Derry star Joe Brolly has labelled Cork football as "primitive" and Graham Canty as "overrated".



Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/brolly-cork-primitive-canty-overrated-161980.html#ixzz1T483mUrb
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: samwin08 on July 24, 2011, 11:45:59 PM
Brolly: Cork ‘primitive', Canty 'overrated'
By Terry Reilly

Saturday, July 23, 2011

FORMER Derry star Joe Brolly has labelled Cork football as "primitive" and Graham Canty as "overrated".



Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/brolly-cork-primitive-canty-overrated-161980.html#ixzz1T483mUrb

Yeah, I just posted that. Cheers though ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:49:20 PM
Cheers Ziggy. Don't Kerry still have to beat Tyrone in a big game to?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:50:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:49:20 PM
Cheers Ziggy. Don't Kerry still have to beat Tyrone in a big game to?

They beat us in '86.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on July 24, 2011, 11:52:25 PM
Makes great TV
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:50:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:49:20 PM
Cheers Ziggy. Don't Kerry still have to beat Tyrone in a big game to?

They beat us in '86.
Ok. Must be thinking of that team of the decade(s) business you two had going on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: This Years Model on July 24, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
To whomever it concerns, Ian Ryan's free was over the bar on Saturday night. Showing the TV replay over and over again was completely pointless as it gave no indication whatsoever about whether the ball was inside the post or not.

In the stand I would have been a bit to the left of the ref's view as he looked on, and the ball was always inside the left upright.

If Anthony Masterson was going to have a whinge he should have brought up Stevie Kelly's assault on him immediately after the goal. It earned him a yellow card which is just about the most despicable cop-out of all times, and he can consider himself a very lucky boy to be eligible to play in the All-Ireland Q-Final.

All that said, fair play to Limerick for a fantastic comeback on a night of gripping Championship fare in Portlaoise. The best 15 Euro I spent for myself and two boys in a long time.

Brolly - as a hurler himself - should also have pointed out that Joey Wadding had his hand on Ian Ryan's back for the free-in which won the game. Any boy that played hurling - or football - from the age of 10 was told that if you put your hand on the fella's back, you're fair game for a foul to be blown against you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggysego on July 25, 2011, 12:04:01 AM
Quote from: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on July 24, 2011, 11:50:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 24, 2011, 11:49:20 PM
Cheers Ziggy. Don't Kerry still have to beat Tyrone in a big game to?

They beat us in '86.
Ok. Must be thinking of that team of the decade(s) business you two had going on.

Well true, they haven't beaten us in a big game in the 2000s.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:04:23 AM
Quote from: samwin08 on July 24, 2011, 11:45:59 PM
Brolly: Cork 'primitive', Canty 'overrated'
By Terry Reilly

Saturday, July 23, 2011

FORMER Derry star Joe Brolly has labelled Cork football as "primitive" and Graham Canty as "overrated".



Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/brolly-cork-primitive-canty-overrated-161980.html#ixzz1T483mUrb
when you read brollys article its fairly accurate from a ruthlessly honest tactical analysis point of view especially about dublins last 5mins last yr, dont really think its fair for Terry reilliy to basically pick out the negatives and make an article of it for himself, lazy or what?

Brollys entitled to his opinion like everybody else, on this occasion i dont its fair to say hes lost the plot. I actually think its refreshing for an analyst to go past the normal cliched analysis and say what he really thinks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: This Years Model on July 24, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
To whomever it concerns, Ian Ryan's free was over the bar on Saturday night. Showing the TV replay over and over again was completely pointless as it gave no indication whatsoever about whether the ball was inside the post or not.

In the stand I would have been a bit to the left of the ref's view as he looked on, and the ball was always inside the left upright.

If Anthony Masterson was going to have a whinge he should have brought up Stevie Kelly's assault on him immediately after the goal. It earned him a yellow card which is just about the most despicable cop-out of all times, and he can consider himself a very lucky boy to be eligible to play in the All-Ireland Q-Final.

All that said, fair play to Limerick for a fantastic comeback on a night of gripping Championship fare in Portlaoise. The best 15 Euro I spent for myself and two boys in a long time.

Brolly - as a hurler himself - should also have pointed out that Joey Wadding had his hand on Ian Ryan's back for the free-in which won the game. Any boy that played hurling - or football - from the age of 10 was told that if you put your hand on the fella's back, you're fair game for a foul to be blown against you.
Fair play posting that being on the wrong end of the score, i wish i could take defeat with as much dignity as yourself. Hope limerick do themselves justice the next day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on July 25, 2011, 12:10:31 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: This Years Model on July 24, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
To whomever it concerns, Ian Ryan's free was over the bar on Saturday night. Showing the TV replay over and over again was completely pointless as it gave no indication whatsoever about whether the ball was inside the post or not.

In the stand I would have been a bit to the left of the ref's view as he looked on, and the ball was always inside the left upright.

If Anthony Masterson was going to have a whinge he should have brought up Stevie Kelly's assault on him immediately after the goal. It earned him a yellow card which is just about the most despicable cop-out of all times, and he can consider himself a very lucky boy to be eligible to play in the All-Ireland Q-Final.

All that said, fair play to Limerick for a fantastic comeback on a night of gripping Championship fare in Portlaoise. The best 15 Euro I spent for myself and two boys in a long time.

Brolly - as a hurler himself - should also have pointed out that Joey Wadding had his hand on Ian Ryan's back for the free-in which won the game. Any boy that played hurling - or football - from the age of 10 was told that if you put your hand on the fella's back, you're fair game for a foul to be blown against you.
Fair play posting that being on the wrong end of the score, i wish i could take defeat with as much dignity as yourself. Hope limerick do themselves justice the next day.

The only problem is he says he was in the stand, if he was in the stand he would of been to the right of the referee and in no position to judge if it was over. Maybe he meant he was on the terrace.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 12:10:47 AM
Quote from: samwin08 on July 24, 2011, 11:41:46 PM
Time for cutbacks at RTE. Me thinks  Brolly had a glass bottle of wine with his dinner tonight before he came on the programme. Time for Brolly and Spillane to move on. Really think Brolly has lost it. Fair play to Tony Davis for contradicting him.

Didn't think Davis had it in him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on July 25, 2011, 12:14:06 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: This Years Model on July 24, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
To whomever it concerns, Ian Ryan's free was over the bar on Saturday night. Showing the TV replay over and over again was completely pointless as it gave no indication whatsoever about whether the ball was inside the post or not.

In the stand I would have been a bit to the left of the ref's view as he looked on, and the ball was always inside the left upright.

If Anthony Masterson was going to have a whinge he should have brought up Stevie Kelly's assault on him immediately after the goal. It earned him a yellow card which is just about the most despicable cop-out of all times, and he can consider himself a very lucky boy to be eligible to play in the All-Ireland Q-Final.

All that said, fair play to Limerick for a fantastic comeback on a night of gripping Championship fare in Portlaoise. The best 15 Euro I spent for myself and two boys in a long time.

Brolly - as a hurler himself - should also have pointed out that Joey Wadding had his hand on Ian Ryan's back for the free-in which won the game. Any boy that played hurling - or football - from the age of 10 was told that if you put your hand on the fella's back, you're fair game for a foul to be blown against you.
Fair play posting that being on the wrong end of the score, i wish i could take defeat with as much dignity as yourself. Hope limerick do themselves justice the next day.

Yeah fair play to you.

As for Brolly--if he left he'd be a huge loss to the Sunday Game--he makes fantastic TV and his observations were pretty much spot on about Cork and about the Limerick score etc. Far, far better that the cliched borefest 'everybody is great' analysis you'd get from Alan Shearer types
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: This Years Model on July 25, 2011, 12:18:40 AM
My bad, DM. I wasn't in the covered stand, I was in the terracing opposite the covered stand, on the left hand side of the pitch looking over Ryan's shoulder as he kicked it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on July 25, 2011, 12:21:28 AM
TBH That free Limerick got at the end of the game looked like a dive from Ryan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lily4life on July 25, 2011, 12:21:52 AM
It's very hard to listen to Joe Brolly on The Sunday Game at times.
Kildare win and he decides to single out a player and insult him for a performance a year ago.
He thought the controversial point at the end of the Wexford match was funny, doubt he would have felt the same if it was Derry in the same situation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:22:52 AM
Quote from: Dont Matter on July 25, 2011, 12:10:31 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: This Years Model on July 24, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
To whomever it concerns, Ian Ryan's free was over the bar on Saturday night. Showing the TV replay over and over again was completely pointless as it gave no indication whatsoever about whether the ball was inside the post or not.

In the stand I would have been a bit to the left of the ref's view as he looked on, and the ball was always inside the left upright.

If Anthony Masterson was going to have a whinge he should have brought up Stevie Kelly's assault on him immediately after the goal. It earned him a yellow card which is just about the most despicable cop-out of all times, and he can consider himself a very lucky boy to be eligible to play in the All-Ireland Q-Final.

All that said, fair play to Limerick for a fantastic comeback on a night of gripping Championship fare in Portlaoise. The best 15 Euro I spent for myself and two boys in a long time.

Brolly - as a hurler himself - should also have pointed out that Joey Wadding had his hand on Ian Ryan's back for the free-in which won the game. Any boy that played hurling - or football - from the age of 10 was told that if you put your hand on the fella's back, you're fair game for a foul to be blown against you.
Fair play posting that being on the wrong end of the score, i wish i could take defeat with as much dignity as yourself. Hope limerick do themselves justice the next day.

The only problem is he says he was in the stand, if he was in the stand he would of been to the right of the referee and in no position to judge if it was over. Maybe he meant he was on the terrace.
Im just presuming he meant terrace, your correct, im sure it was a typo, the standside would of had poor view, the point itself reminded me of Colm McGee winner last yr against Galway for us, i was behind it all the way and it was over but spectacularly high and its not easy for umpires to get it right but glad for fair play that if was a point it was given.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on July 25, 2011, 12:29:29 AM
Quote from: Lily4life on July 25, 2011, 12:21:52 AM
It's very hard to listen to Joe Brolly on The Sunday Game at times.
Kildare win and he decides to single out a player and insult him for a performance a year ago.
He thought the controversial point at the end of the Wexford match was funny, doubt he would have felt the same if it was Derry in the same situation.
Not for the first time Brolly seems to have been enjoying the refreshments in RTE before the show. Watch his hand gestures when he is pontificating.

I have no problem with him going against the flow, I agree about Cork still needing to beat Kerry, he doesn't need to be so condascending doing it.These are amateur players and officials. By all means point out mistakes just don't be so spiteful about it.

Just wondering how did Brolly see the Derry/Kildare, Cork/Down and Armagh/Tyrone games? Did rte give him footage of the game in Omagh?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 12:31:03 AM
Quote from: Lily4life on July 25, 2011, 12:21:52 AM
It's very hard to listen to Joe Brolly on The Sunday Game at times.
Kildare win and he decides to single out a player and insult him for a performance a year ago.
He thought the controversial point at the end of the Wexford match was funny, doubt he would have felt the same if it was Derry in the same situation.

He would if he was jarred.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on July 25, 2011, 12:31:41 AM
Quote from: Lily4life on July 25, 2011, 12:21:52 AM
It's very hard to listen to Joe Brolly on The Sunday Game at times.
Kildare win and he decides to single out a player and insult him for a performance a year ago.
He thought the controversial point at the end of the Wexford match was funny, doubt he would have felt the same if it was Derry in the same situation.
Its seems to me any outside criticism whether its accurate or not is termed an insult by people within the county being analysed. Brolly said he wimps out against the big boys, and that doing it against lesser teams like Derry :D doesnt change that opinion, he did say he may have been harsh in the way he said it when probed by des, but probably stands by his point. Hopefully Kavanagh does the business the next day after seeing that ;) as i would love to see Kildare lift Sam.

I do agree on the wexford point issue, it wasnt funny and he was sniggering away in the background. I feel sorry for wexford but im glad for limerick.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 12:33:25 AM
That Masterson lad annoys me.
He needs to learn to control his emotions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 25, 2011, 12:39:31 AM
Quote from: Lily4life on July 25, 2011, 12:21:52 AM
It's very hard to listen to Joe Brolly on The Sunday Game at times.
Kildare win and he decides to single out a player and insult him for a performance a year ago.
He thought the controversial point at the end of the Wexford match was funny, doubt he would have felt the same if it was Derry in the same situation.

Jaysus L4L, this is good news the hype was annoying, Kildare need to win something to prove they are the team we know they are capable off. We don't need affirmation from a Derry man doing an impression of Oliver Reid on national TV.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 12:42:26 AM
A lot of teams will have Joe Brolly to thank if they win the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: diehard on July 25, 2011, 01:28:38 AM
Brolly and Spillane are mostly interested in promoting their own media iprofile and being controversial seems to be a handy way of keeping it up there. I find them boring at this stage and feel their days in RTE are numbered or at least ought to be.  It would be nice to have decent analysis that gives a good insight into games without insulting everyone in sight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 25, 2011, 10:29:25 AM
Pay no attention to Davis or Brolly. They are equally embarrassing in different ways.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

would agree with that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 25, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
Without Brolly and Spillane the Sunday Game would be a bore fest.
Brolly isnt too often that far off the mark though and I think he understands the modern game a lot more than Tony Davis or Spillane.
But it's good to have two contrasting points of view for the sake of discussion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 25, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

Expect we're not getting much analysis from Brolly just rhetoric without much substance besides the obvious, it's certainly not insightful or indeed intelligent. I mean his attack on Cork, saying they had no skill, really? What does that say about the rest of the country? 

It's entertaining like Dunphy and stirs debate but I just find The Sunday Game has gone very very stale, you just don't learn anything from it.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Brolly always sneers disrespectfully at teams he wants to criticise rather than offer something constructive. Controversial for the sake of it is as boring as bland soundbite type analysis. He is a Spillane mini me. Himself, Spillane and O'Rourke should be sent out the pasture instead of them taking tax payer money with bar room slaggin as the basis for their preparation and delivery.

Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stevie g 8 on July 25, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
at least brolly adds a bit a entertainment to it,davis ,mc stay,carney are just so boring and it,s time to get someone new and refreshing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 25, 2011, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Brolly always sneers disrespectfully at teams he wants to criticise rather than offer something constructive. Controversial for the sake of it is as boring as bland soundbite type analysis. He is a Spillane mini me. Himself, Spillane and O'Rourke should be sent out the pasture instead of them taking tax payer money with bar room slaggin as the basis for their preparation and delivery.

Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

Would be interesting to find out if this is true. I always thought Tyrone would head this tally.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 12:09:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 25, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

Expect we're not getting much analysis from Brolly just rhetoric without much substance besides the obvious, it's certainly not insightful or indeed intelligent. I mean his attack on Cork, saying they had no skill, really? What does that say about the rest of the country? 

It's entertaining like Dunphy and stirs debate but I just find The Sunday Game has gone very very stale, you just don't learn anything from it.

Brolly exaggerates his points (I think this is his profession coming out in him!) but in comparison to Kerry or Tyrone, Cork are not as skilful. He makes some good points about Cork to be honest. Despite this I can see them winning Sam this year (and maybe a few more) but I too find them a little boring and mechanical.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 25, 2011, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on July 25, 2011, 11:36:21 AM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Brolly always sneers disrespectfully at teams he wants to criticise rather than offer something constructive. Controversial for the sake of it is as boring as bland soundbite type analysis. He is a Spillane mini me. Himself, Spillane and O'Rourke should be sent out the pasture instead of them taking tax payer money with bar room slaggin as the basis for their preparation and delivery.

Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

Would be interesting to find out if this is true. I always thought Tyrone would head this tally.

thats what i though aswell.
this was davis's big ace card in his arguement, but he offered no facts whatso ever to back it up, brolly couldnt argue with him as he had no idea wether he was right or not!

dunno how anyone could say davis 'wiped the floor' with brolly, for me he just came across as someone defending thier own with no real basis for his counter arguement.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on July 25, 2011, 12:39:10 PM
If I want to see a Guard and a Lawyer have a row on a Sunday night I'll head to my local pub.

TV3 should start a Sunday Game type show say on a Monday evening to compete with these cretons. Mickey Harte is right not to bother talking to them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hurling_lad on July 25, 2011, 12:44:17 PM
If Tony Davis had got himself a bit better informed, he could have pointed out that the last time that Brolly's beloved Tyrone scored as much in a championship match as Cork did on Saturday (i.e. 2-20/26 points) was over six years ago (June '05 vs. Cavan in a replay).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snippets on July 25, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Brolly is controversial lads, but bluffer or not hes great value and does everything with a humoured wit rarely portrayed  and understood in the GAA.    Outside Colm O Rourke hes the only guy worth listening to.  Colm may well be the only true non bluffer in the Sunday game set up.  Why oh why cant we have a seperate hurling and football programme though.  The football crowd must suffer through the hurling when its like watching scor to them.       
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on July 25, 2011, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: snippets on July 25, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Brolly is controversial lads, but bluffer or not hes great value and does everything with a humoured wit rarely portrayed  and understood in the GAA.    Outside Colm O Rourke hes the only guy worth listening to.  Colm may well be the only true non bluffer in the Sunday game set up.  Why oh why cant we have a seperate hurling and football programme though.  The football crowd must suffer through the hurling when its like watching scor to them.     
I disagree with every point you make there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bloodybreakball on July 25, 2011, 01:00:01 PM
here here magpie seanie, i have to say i like brolly, i havent seen last nights sunday game yet but i think the vast majority of people would have to recognise that brolly is fairly / very (delete depending on your opinion) insightful about tactics. I go out of my way to read his stuff in the irish mail and the gaelic life and in the last few weeks I believe that he has become more controversial and before last night it must have been 3 maybe 4 weeks since he was last on, so maybe he was tyring to keep aome air in his own profile balloon (not exactly sure what this is but you get my point!!). i thik lads tbh that, although its hard when its your own county if there is some objectivity than there is a fair bit of truth in his anlysis. i think he's bang on about cork, and kildare, if kildare are that strong, how the hell did they not beat a very questionable dublin team
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Offalylad on July 25, 2011, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: snippets on July 25, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Brolly is controversial lads, but bluffer or not hes great value and does everything with a humoured wit rarely portrayed  and understood in the GAA.    Outside Colm O Rourke hes the only guy worth listening to.  Colm may well be the only true non bluffer in the Sunday game set up.  Why oh why cant we have a seperate hurling and football programme though.  The football crowd must suffer through the hurling when its like watching scor to them.     

I disagree big time there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 25, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

would agree with that.

It doesn't have to be either/or fellas. You can constructively criticize without being an asshole about it. It's really not that hard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snippets on July 25, 2011, 01:29:29 PM
Listen we have to sit through all the hurling games for a draw for football time after time.  I love hurling but Im a Tyrone man and I want my football draw, which is placed after the hurling despite the fact it has limited relevance to the supporters, If you think that its for anyone but RTE s interests then you are delusive.  As for opening debate on seperate promotion of hurling and football on TV then thats what I would love to do.  Undoubtedly hurling needs to find its own place as its dying on its feet in all but a few counties.  I think it could be marketed in different ways from football and it suffers from being put alongside it.   On another point Look we knew there was to be 4 games in Croke Park next week, could we not have talked to the guards before the draw.     
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

No he did not. If you try to win an argument by quoting a made up fact that only wins because it can't be verified on the spot you just look like a spoofer when later it is shown you were talking crap. Davis confidently tried to act smarter than Brolly by claiming Cork half backs have scored more in the last few championships than any other team. An arrogant little declaration based on no fact at all except a desire for it to be true.

In "the last few championships" since 2008 Cork defence has scored 35 points of which 32 came from half backs. I have no time to check every team but I do know about my own. In the same period Down defence has scored 61 points, of which I believe 56 came from half backs. And we did that in 21 games to Cork's 23.

Like I said I have no idea how many Kerry, Tyrone or Armagh (A. Kernan please stand up!!) may have scored. But this just shows all Davis is a spoofer, making statements and crossing his fingers.

Brolly is a wind-up merchant and I am far from defending him, but Davis is a tool, looked like a childish tool and spoke like a childish tool. No floor wiping there!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AQMP on July 25, 2011, 01:55:31 PM
Quote from: snippets on July 25, 2011, 01:29:29 PM
Listen we have to sit through all the hurling games for a draw for football time after time.  I love hurling but Im a Tyrone man and I want my football draw, which is placed after the hurling despite the fact it has limited relevance to the supporters, If you think that its for anyone but RTE s interests then you are delusive.  As for opening debate on seperate promotion of hurling and football on TV then thats what I would love to do.  Undoubtedly hurling needs to find its own place as its dying on its feet in all but a few counties.  I think it could be marketed in different ways from football and it suffers from being put alongside it.   On another point Look we knew there was to be 4 games in Croke Park next week, could we not have talked to the guards before the draw.     

Here's a tip, don't watch the hurling and switch on the telly just before the draw is made.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on July 25, 2011, 01:57:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 25, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

Expect we're not getting much analysis from Brolly just rhetoric without much substance besides the obvious, it's certainly not insightful or indeed intelligent. I mean his attack on Cork, saying they had no skill, really? What does that say about the rest of the country? 

It's entertaining like Dunphy and stirs debate but I just find The Sunday Game has gone very very stale, you just don't learn anything from it.
He didn't really say that, his main point was that Cork have two excellent inside forwards who are under utilised because the half backs and midfield too often take the wrong options and don't pass.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on July 25, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 25, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

would agree with that.

It doesn't have to be either/or fellas. You can constructively criticize without being an asshole about it. It's really not that hard.

I would agree with Seanie also, I thought it certainly made for great television.

With some contributors feeling that Davis performed well in his debate against Brolly I watched it back on the player. I really can't see how anyone thought that Davis performed well "I do like that they play 15 against 15" (so what, they are still boring to watch!) "I played half back and if I went upfield I'd be roared at by John Kerins to get back" (ancient history, zero relevance to the role of the half back in the modern game, plus, if he had charged forward, how in the name of god would he hear his goalie in packed Paircaigh Caoimh/Croke Park/Killarney!!) "John Miskella has scored loads" (not a single stat to back up his assertion).

Brolly is and always has been extremely arrogant and makes no apologies for who he insults. However, having read the full article from the gaelic life column, there is very little in it that he has got wrong!

Just to pick up on his point in relation to Graham Canty, he is absolutely spot on. How this man has won three all stars still amazes me and for my mind he is the single most over rated player in recent memory. His performances throughout 07 were poor (including being destroyed against Louth) yet he is picked at full back. Probably even worst was his selection last year, when Mc Kiernan was clearly the stand out No 6 of championship. I have a theory in this regard, there is clearly a lack of quality "old style" full backs throughout the inter county scene over the last number of years. So when big lumps like Canty or Kevin Reilly come along, who fit the stereotype of what a full back should have been in years gone by, the media commentators latch on to them and build them up to be something that they simply are not.

As for Davis..... without any shadow of a doubt the single worst panelist that the Sunday Game have on their rotation and it baffles me everytime that he is on as to how they can justify spending licence payers money on employing him. He offers no meaningful insight into the analysis of any game and is frequently just plain wrong!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 25, 2011, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

No he did not. If you try to win an argument by quoting a made up fact that only wins because it can't be verified on the spot you just look like a spoofer when later it is shown you were talking crap. Davis confidently tried to act smarter than Brolly by claiming Cork half backs have scored more in the last few championships than any other team. An arrogant little declaration based on no fact at all except a desire for it to be true.

In "the last few championships" since 2008 Cork defence has scored 35 points of which 32 came from half backs. I have no time to check every team but I do know about my own. In the same period Down defence has scored 61 points, of which I believe 56 came from half backs. And we did that in 21 games to Cork's 23.

Like I said I have no idea how many Kerry, Tyrone or Armagh (A. Kernan please stand up!!) may have scored. But this just shows all Davis is a spoofer, making statements and crossing his fingers.

Brolly is a wind-up merchant and I am far from defending him, but Davis is a tool, looked like a childish tool and spoke like a childish tool. No floor wiping there!



Good stuff Paul. It's hard to beat facts in any debate.

Davis is a spoofer, floundering out of his depth. Brolly is an entertaining spoofer with occasional insights, and a rereshingly untraditional approach by comparison to the standard "I suppose, Marty" mealy mouthedness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

No he did not. If you try to win an argument by quoting a made up fact that only wins because it can't be verified on the spot you just look like a spoofer when later it is shown you were talking crap. Davis confidently tried to act smarter than Brolly by claiming Cork half backs have scored more in the last few championships than any other team. An arrogant little declaration based on no fact at all except a desire for it to be true.

In "the last few championships" since 2008 Cork defence has scored 35 points of which 32 came from half backs. I have no time to check every team but I do know about my own. In the same period Down defence has scored 61 points, of which I believe 56 came from half backs. And we did that in 21 games to Cork's 23.

Like I said I have no idea how many Kerry, Tyrone or Armagh (A. Kernan please stand up!!) may have scored. But this just shows all Davis is a spoofer, making statements and crossing his fingers.

Brolly is a wind-up merchant and I am far from defending him, but Davis is a tool, looked like a childish tool and spoke like a childish tool. No floor wiping there!

The point Davis was making was that Cork half backs and midfield have regularly scored when they went forward where Brolly had feebly being trying to claim this area was a weakness in the Cork side. Brolly was spluttering then about his newspaper article being "out of context" when Davis labelled it insulting or whatever. Brolly then started the "ah come on now Tony" whinging when Davis unloaded on him. He got his ass handed to him and by Davis who is normally repetitive and bland but got some bottle once he saw his former team had been dissed by sniggering Joe. If Brolly had booze on board as some seem to suspect then rather than it being an excuse its a terrible reflection on his professionalism. Plenty of floor wiping there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on July 25, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 25, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

would agree with that.

It doesn't have to be either/or fellas. You can constructively criticize without being an asshole about it. It's really not that hard.

I would agree with Seanie also, I thought it certainly made for great television.

With some contributors feeling that Davis performed well in his debate against Brolly I watched it back on the player. I really can't see how anyone thought that Davis performed well "I do like that they play 15 against 15" (so what, they are still boring to watch!) "I played half back and if I went upfield I'd be roared at by John Kerins to get back" (ancient history, zero relevance to the role of the half back in the modern game, plus, if he had charged forward, how in the name of god would he hear his goalie in packed Paircaigh Caoimh/Croke Park/Killarney!!) "John Miskella has scored loads" (not a single stat to back up his assertion).

Brolly is and always has been extremely arrogant and makes no apologies for who he insults. However, having read the full article from the gaelic life column, there is very little in it that he has got wrong!

Just to pick up on his point in relation to Graham Canty, he is absolutely spot on. How this man has won three all stars still amazes me and for my mind he is the single most over rated player in recent memory. His performances throughout 07 were poor (including being destroyed against Louth) yet he is picked at full back. Probably even worst was his selection last year, when Mc Kiernan was clearly the stand out No 6 of championship. I have a theory in this regard, there is clearly a lack of quality "old style" full backs throughout the inter county scene over the last number of years. So when big lumps like Canty or Kevin Reilly come along, who fit the stereotype of what a full back should have been in years gone by, the media commentators latch on to them and build them up to be something that they simply are not.

As for Davis..... without any shadow of a doubt the single worst panelist that the Sunday Game have on their rotation and it baffles me everytime that he is on as to how they can justify spending licence payers money on employing him. He offers no meaningful insight into the analysis of any game and is frequently just plain wrong!

Watch it pal.  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 25, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

would agree with that.

It doesn't have to be either/or fellas. You can constructively criticize without being an asshole about it. It's really not that hard.

+ 1
McStay is a good example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on July 25, 2011, 02:37:00 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

No he did not. If you try to win an argument by quoting a made up fact that only wins because it can't be verified on the spot you just look like a spoofer when later it is shown you were talking crap. Davis confidently tried to act smarter than Brolly by claiming Cork half backs have scored more in the last few championships than any other team. An arrogant little declaration based on no fact at all except a desire for it to be true.

In "the last few championships" since 2008 Cork defence has scored 35 points of which 32 came from half backs. I have no time to check every team but I do know about my own. In the same period Down defence has scored 61 points, of which I believe 56 came from half backs. And we did that in 21 games to Cork's 23.Like I said I have no idea how many Kerry, Tyrone or Armagh (A. Kernan please stand up!!) may have scored. But this just shows all Davis is a spoofer, making statements and crossing his fingers.

Brolly is a wind-up merchant and I am far from defending him, but Davis is a tool, looked like a childish tool and spoke like a childish tool. No floor wiping there!

No wonder we cant defend if all the bloody defenders are up trying to hoof the ball over the black spot.
James look at the stats and you can be half way to solve the problem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyssam5 on July 25, 2011, 03:39:03 PM
I find McStay the most annoying of the lot of them. Reminds me of a teacher or a curate, lecturing away in an extremely boring fashion. And what did he have in his big green binder the other week? Perhaps a scoring analysis of all the half backs in the country? Surely not, none of them would be bothered doing any prep work.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 25, 2011, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

No he did not. If you try to win an argument by quoting a made up fact that only wins because it can't be verified on the spot you just look like a spoofer when later it is shown you were talking crap. Davis confidently tried to act smarter than Brolly by claiming Cork half backs have scored more in the last few championships than any other team. An arrogant little declaration based on no fact at all except a desire for it to be true.

In "the last few championships" since 2008 Cork defence has scored 35 points of which 32 came from half backs. I have no time to check every team but I do know about my own. In the same period Down defence has scored 61 points, of which I believe 56 came from half backs. And we did that in 21 games to Cork's 23.

Like I said I have no idea how many Kerry, Tyrone or Armagh (A. Kernan please stand up!!) may have scored. But this just shows all Davis is a spoofer, making statements and crossing his fingers.

Brolly is a wind-up merchant and I am far from defending him, but Davis is a tool, looked like a childish tool and spoke like a childish tool. No floor wiping there!



Good stuff Paul. It's hard to beat facts in any debate.

Davis is a spoofer, floundering out of his depth. Brolly is an entertaining spoofer with occasional insights, and a rereshingly untraditional approach by comparison to the standard "I suppose, Marty" mealy mouthedness.

Now Brolly said that Cork half backs generally don't add to the score. He is a mouthy little so-and-so and says things in a deliberately objectional way. but that doesn't mean he is wrong and Davis tantrumous little display amounted to the same as a child sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting la-la-la I'm not listening to you. And like a child he started claiming achievements he knew nothing about and just hoped his blind guesses paid off.

Miskella has scored 18 championship points in since 2008. So, well done John Miskella, he does indeed have a good record. But Brolly's point was that Cork half backs do not score enough or support the attack in general. One man doing well does not justify the assertion that the whole half back department are good at getting scores. In 23 games without Miskella scores Cork half backs have scored 14 points, an average of just over one point every two games. Brolly is correct, that is a poor return. If Miskella has a bad day, pretty much there is no attacking threat from cork's half backs

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 04:00:53 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 25, 2011, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on July 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: ross matt on July 25, 2011, 11:30:54 AM
Davis wiped the floor with Brolly last night. Yes it was parish pump politics on Davis's point but when Brolly was on the recieving end he got flustered and kept changing the point... constantly referring to Cork no beating Kerry in Croker as if its breaking news. He completely ignored Davis's argument that the Cork half backs have scored more than any other half backline in the last few years.

No he did not. If you try to win an argument by quoting a made up fact that only wins because it can't be verified on the spot you just look like a spoofer when later it is shown you were talking crap. Davis confidently tried to act smarter than Brolly by claiming Cork half backs have scored more in the last few championships than any other team. An arrogant little declaration based on no fact at all except a desire for it to be true.

In "the last few championships" since 2008 Cork defence has scored 35 points of which 32 came from half backs. I have no time to check every team but I do know about my own. In the same period Down defence has scored 61 points, of which I believe 56 came from half backs. And we did that in 21 games to Cork's 23.

Like I said I have no idea how many Kerry, Tyrone or Armagh (A. Kernan please stand up!!) may have scored. But this just shows all Davis is a spoofer, making statements and crossing his fingers.

Brolly is a wind-up merchant and I am far from defending him, but Davis is a tool, looked like a childish tool and spoke like a childish tool. No floor wiping there!



Good stuff Paul. It's hard to beat facts in any debate.

Davis is a spoofer, floundering out of his depth. Brolly is an entertaining spoofer with occasional insights, and a rereshingly untraditional approach by comparison to the standard "I suppose, Marty" mealy mouthedness.

Now Brolly said that Cork half backs generally don't add to the score. He is a mouthy little so-and-so and says things in a deliberately objectional way. but that doesn't mean he is wrong and Davis tantrumous little display amounted to the same as a child sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting la-la-la I'm not listening to you. And like a child he started claiming achievements he knew nothing about and just hoped his blind guesses paid off.

Miskella has scored 18 championship points in since 2008. So, well done John Miskella, he does indeed have a good record. But Brolly's point was that Cork half backs do not score enough or support the attack in general. One man doing well does not justify the assertion that the whole half back department are good at getting scores. In 23 games without Miskella scores Cork half backs have scored 14 points, an average of just over one point every two games. Brolly is correct, that is a poor return. If Miskella has a bad day, pretty much there is no attacking threat from cork's half backs

Stop inventing words Paul.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 25, 2011, 04:07:56 PM
while David was saying that, I was trying to think who the 'scoring' cork half backs were.
not Ger spillane or O'Leary anyhow. Miskella has scored, but in comparison to the Kerry (O'Se) , tyrone (harte, Jordan,gormley), donegal , dublin, kildare , armagh, and other sides regularly contesting the AI quarter/semi finals each year - Cork are heavily reliant on a good sextet of forwards.
Most of the rest of the counties spread the load from forwards to midfield and to backs (indeed Donegal, kerry, tyrone and kildare have scoring corner backs and/or full backs !!)

thought the petty squabble between davis and brolly was a bit cringeworthy last night.
Davis was backed into a hole and Joe should have just let him talk rubbish.
its still better than that mcstay eejit.
I turned the sound off watching the hurling with wee marty commentating !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 25, 2011, 04:29:44 PM
Bernard Flynn the wise oul owl should have been brought in as the peace maker.........................  ;)

Ah let davis and brolly at, its great entertainment, alot better than lyons babbling on and tohill generally ratting, and hanging players out to dry...................... no time for mcstay hes a prune

Best analysts are orourke, spillane and brolly by a mile, the truth hurts for alot of counties when these lads speak, but so be it...............................sure us dubs are generally getting lashed by the pundits, I wouldnt take it to heart

Anybody else think brolly looked like he was just outta coppers or something, he looked fairly unkempt by his standards...................hes great entertainment, thought davis was gonna cry at one stage last night  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on July 25, 2011, 05:24:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 25, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on July 25, 2011, 02:06:34 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 25, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 25, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
See here is the crux of GAA analysis. Do we want the bland Sky Sports style analysis which illuminates only the most ill-informed? Or do we want the truth, the facts laid bare even if it is hurtful to players who are "amateur"? Personally, I lean towards the latter, just. I think the criticisms in this case were justified largely and not over the top. Des Cahill showed he is a goon and Tony Davis did his best impression of parish pump politics.

As for the laughing during the Limerick point/wide debate Brolly was just laughing at the stupidity of Davis' argument. "The ref was sure it was a point" - is that why he ran in and consulted the umpires?

It was the best Sunday Game in ages!

would agree with that.

It doesn't have to be either/or fellas. You can constructively criticize without being an asshole about it. It's really not that hard.

I would agree with Seanie also, I thought it certainly made for great television.

With some contributors feeling that Davis performed well in his debate against Brolly I watched it back on the player. I really can't see how anyone thought that Davis performed well "I do like that they play 15 against 15" (so what, they are still boring to watch!) "I played half back and if I went upfield I'd be roared at by John Kerins to get back" (ancient history, zero relevance to the role of the half back in the modern game, plus, if he had charged forward, how in the name of god would he hear his goalie in packed Paircaigh Caoimh/Croke Park/Killarney!!) "John Miskella has scored loads" (not a single stat to back up his assertion).

Brolly is and always has been extremely arrogant and makes no apologies for who he insults. However, having read the full article from the gaelic life column, there is very little in it that he has got wrong!

Just to pick up on his point in relation to Graham Canty, he is absolutely spot on. How this man has won three all stars still amazes me and for my mind he is the single most over rated player in recent memory. His performances throughout 07 were poor (including being destroyed against Louth) yet he is picked at full back. Probably even worst was his selection last year, when Mc Kiernan was clearly the stand out No 6 of championship. I have a theory in this regard, there is clearly a lack of quality "old style" full backs throughout the inter county scene over the last number of years. So when big lumps like Canty or Kevin Reilly come along, who fit the stereotype of what a full back should have been in years gone by, the media commentators latch on to them and build them up to be something that they simply are not.

As for Davis..... without any shadow of a doubt the single worst panelist that the Sunday Game have on their rotation and it baffles me everytime that he is on as to how they can justify spending licence payers money on employing him. He offers no meaningful insight into the analysis of any game and is frequently just plain wrong!

Watch it pal.  >:(

Or What!!

Completely overhyped player, often thought Meath were better without him in the set up!

But we are getting a tad off point  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on July 25, 2011, 10:15:55 PM
I thought both Brolly and Davis were as bad as each other, neither were articulate, neither had concrete points to make and both lost an element of control.
Davis waffled in defence about the Cork half backs scoring more than any other "probably" "I'd say", Brolly was his usual sneering self and actually had no real point to make. Yeah maybe Cork dwell on the ball out the field but surely their are more finer points of the game for both to argue over? Like Donegal bringing the game into disripute! ;-)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on July 25, 2011, 10:46:19 PM
Yeah, for a second I thought Davis was going to back up his statements with some facts. I should know better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ExiledGael on July 25, 2011, 10:47:13 PM
Have to say I quite enjoyed the Sunday Game last night. Don't rate Tony Davis at all (can't get his 'yeah they did well' brain freeze out of my head when he speaks), but I think Brolly is not far off the mark most of the time
He's not afraid to say what he thinks and isn't there to make friends. Would count him and Colm O'Rourke as RTE's top two.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 25, 2011, 10:52:22 PM
When Brolly and Davis argue there is only ever going to be one winner. Brolly make a very good living out of arguing his point, he is a very intelligent man and the points he made about Cork were 100% even if a bit blunt. Davis well out of his depth with Brolly.

Canavan is doing very well this year for BBC and could see him being offered a regular slot with RTE. If he takes it or not is another thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 25, 2011, 10:52:36 PM
O'Rourke is the best pundit.......................hes nail on the head most of the time, Brolly is brill................... Spillane in small dose's
McStay is a twit.................flynn has improved in fairness to him...............hes not bad on the radio commentary either...................how about whelo guys??............................rte beats tv3 hands down
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on July 25, 2011, 10:58:06 PM
QuoteCanavan is doing very well this year for BBC and could see him being offered a regular slot with RTE. If he takes it or not is another thing.


Is Canavan not a pundit on TV3?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 25, 2011, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 25, 2011, 10:58:06 PM
QuoteCanavan is doing very well this year for BBC and could see him being offered a regular slot with RTE. If he takes it or not is another thing.


Is Canavan not a pundit on TV3?

Was last year. Works with BBC this year. Maybe TV3 as well?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
Canavan is/has been on TV3 and is excellent in my view. Would agree with squire there except for the last bit. I think RTE are limited and Des Cahill annoys me (though he is obviously way better at the job than his predecessor). RTE's commentators with the passable exception of Moloney are simply shit. Also, haven't seen Whelan enough to comment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on July 26, 2011, 08:58:37 AM
I suppose if its one thing the football lads over the hurling lads is they create talking points.

The hurling pundits would knock you to sleep. They are cat altogether.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hereiam on July 26, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
In fairness to Des Cahill he let Brolly and Davis go at it..... if that hada been Spillane he would have been buttin in and would have ruined the whole thing. You have to laugh at Brolly....... if u didn't the TV would be out the window.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SuperHo on July 26, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
In fairness, Tony Davis won an all ireland final single handedly.

Just a pity he won it for Derry!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 26, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on July 26, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
In fairness, Tony Davis won an all ireland final single handedly.

Just a pity he won it for Derry!!

:D :D True.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 26, 2011, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on July 26, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on July 26, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
In fairness, Tony Davis won an all ireland final single handedly.

Just a pity he won it for Derry!!

:D :D True.

I think the Ref won that acculade that day!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Some posters probably don't know the story of what happened Davis that week imho he deserves great credit for even lining out.

I wouldn't have been there if it were me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgael on July 26, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Some posters probably don't know the story of what happened Davis that week imho he deserves great credit for even lining out.

I wouldn't have been there if it were me.

What is it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on July 26, 2011, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on July 26, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Some posters probably don't know the story of what happened Davis that week imho he deserves great credit for even lining out.

I wouldn't have been there if it were me.

What is it?

what happened?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on July 26, 2011, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
Canavan is/has been on TV3 and is excellent in my view. Would agree with squire there except for the last bit. I think RTE are limited and Des Cahill annoys me (though he is obviously way better at the job than his predecessor). RTE's commentators with the passable exception of Moloney are simply shit. Also, haven't seen Whelan enough to comment.
RTE need a complete clear out of pundits. Canavan is very good, spot on with his reading of a game and doesn't try to hard to be funny. Conor Deegan is on Newstalk and is also very good and Senan Connell on TV3 isn't bad.

I don't see why they have to be ex players either. Kieran Shannon who used to write for the Tribune used to provide excellent analyis on a weekly basis.

Both TV3 and Newstalk have Liam Hayes for some reason, he is a good talker but it is generally crap.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 26, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on July 26, 2011, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
Canavan is/has been on TV3 and is excellent in my view. Would agree with squire there except for the last bit. I think RTE are limited and Des Cahill annoys me (though he is obviously way better at the job than his predecessor). RTE's commentators with the passable exception of Moloney are simply shit. Also, haven't seen Whelan enough to comment.
RTE need a complete clear out of pundits. Canavan is very good, spot on with his reading of a game and doesn't try to hard to be funny. Conor Deegan is on Newstalk and is also very good and Senan Connell on TV3 isn't bad.

I don't see why they have to be ex players either. Kieran Shannon who used to write for the Tribune used to provide excellent analyis on a weekly basis.

Both TV3 and Newstalk have Liam Hayes for some reason, he is a good talker but it is generally crap.

Bertie would be a good laugh. Even better with a sozzled former colleague beside him arguing.

If Spillane and Brolly though people were annoyed at them, imagine how they would react to Bertie.

We should start a petition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orchard 8195 on July 26, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on July 26, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
In fairness, Tony Davis won an all ireland final single handedly.

Just a pity he won it for Derry!!
To be fair davis was extremely harshly sent off that day!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on July 27, 2011, 12:52:33 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Some posters probably don't know the story of what happened Davis that week imho he deserves great credit for even lining out.

I wouldn't have been there if it were me.

Me neither Muppet. And then wrongly sent off also.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 27, 2011, 12:59:07 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on July 26, 2011, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 25, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
Canavan is/has been on TV3 and is excellent in my view. Would agree with squire there except for the last bit. I think RTE are limited and Des Cahill annoys me (though he is obviously way better at the job than his predecessor). RTE's commentators with the passable exception of Moloney are simply shit. Also, haven't seen Whelan enough to comment.
RTE need a complete clear out of pundits. Canavan is very good, spot on with his reading of a game and doesn't try to hard to be funny. Conor Deegan is on Newstalk and is also very good and Senan Connell on TV3 isn't bad.

I don't see why they have to be ex players either. Kieran Shannon who used to write for the Tribune used to provide excellent analyis on a weekly basis.

Both TV3 and Newstalk have Liam Hayes for some reason, he is a good talker but it is generally crap.

Bertie would be a good laugh. Even better with a sozzled former colleague beside him arguing.

If Spillane and Brolly though people were annoyed at them, imagine how they would react to Bertie.

We should start a petition.

Bertie Ahern ???? that man is a disgrace, cannot stand the little weasel, him and his son and law with there freebies in croker with the best seats, pretending to be dublin fans, hes a pr*ck..........................
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on July 26, 2011, 10:59:45 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on July 26, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
In fairness, Tony Davis won an all ireland final single handedly.

Just a pity he won it for Derry!!
To be fair davis was extremely harshly sent off that day!!

Correct. Davis barely deserved a yellow for the tackle he got red for. Niall Cahalane on the other hand! The clearest right hook you'll ever see on Enda Gormley about 5 mins earlier. The feeling always was that Davis got the line because Cahalane didn't. Good job referees are more logical these days  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on July 27, 2011, 09:08:09 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on July 26, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
In fairness to Des Cahill he let Brolly and Davis go at it..... if that hada been Spillane he would have been buttin in and would have ruined the whole thing. You have to laugh at Brolly....... if u didn't the TV would be out the window.

Yeah, I find I've a lot more admiration for Des since I found out he manages Cuala. He must have a pretty decent knowledge of the game. He's very good at letting the boys go at it without interrupting them (which most presenters find difficult), yet he does call them when they go over the top (e.g last week with Brolly on his comments on James Kavanagh).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on July 27, 2011, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 27, 2011, 09:08:09 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on July 26, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
In fairness to Des Cahill he let Brolly and Davis go at it..... if that hada been Spillane he would have been buttin in and would have ruined the whole thing. You have to laugh at Brolly....... if u didn't the TV would be out the window.

Yeah, I find I've a lot more admiration for Des since I found out he manages Cuala. He must have a pretty decent knowledge of the game

Senior selector - he was the Chairman a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 27, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
What's a modern approach go the game though?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on July 27, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.
is that made up or can you back it up - I honestly don't know, it's just that since pauld kindly provided some stats on Cork half back scoring, i'd like to see figures from now on.
League and championship separate of course and number of games played will also be essential.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2011, 10:42:00 AM
QuoteHe said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

That they beat Down by a point is a fact, that Down in 2010 were mediocre is an opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 27, 2011, 10:42:00 AM
QuoteHe said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

That they beat Down by a point is a fact, that Down in 2010 were mediocre is an opinion.

true
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: Zulu on July 27, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
What's a modern approach go the game though?

god knows! Can't believe I'm trying to explain what I think the wee bollix is saying but here goes...

Guessing at brolly's definition by following his ramblings, I think what he means is your defenders are also attackers as they are essential to breaking down a blanket defence e.g. marc and tomas o'se, jordan, harte and mcmenamim for tyrone. Total football if you like and gave the example of Joe McMahon joining the attack to score a 'square ball' goal V Armagh from full back. McMahon is equally comfortable at half forward as he would be at full back. Justin McMahon is the same. Cork don't have players like that, or so he maintains.

He stated that if anyone ties up Corks front two then they run around laterally handpassing etc and in general going nowhere like 75% of the dubs game from last year. Very like my own county only teams like Cork have a higher number of good footballers and so eventually 'bore' their way through. He stated that only lazy tackling for the penalty and subsequent frees cost Dublin that game. I can only assume he means that Dublin were modern in their approach.

His central point seemed to be that Cork's defenders couldn't also play as attackers - a fact which Davis was proud of and stated 'in his day he wasn't allowed to cross the half way line' blah blah. He seems to have the same warped view of history as Spillourke as I remember Davis clearly opening the scoring in the '93 final with a superb point from 40 yards.

Anyway, I think it's all balls. The team with the best footballers usually wins the AI in my view. Cork have more better footballers than most, as do Kerry and Tyrone.

Joe's world view is that Tyrone combine method with talent better than Kerry and so beat them in every serious occasion they met since 2003. Kerry tried to copy them and did so quite successfully but could never master them. Tyrone copied it from Armagh and did it better. Blah, blah, blah...

Dublin have some footballers but punch above their footballing ability total due to 'modern' methods which mainly focus around playing a basketball defence like Donegal - another team styled like Dublin having a certain amount of good players with the majority journey men and 'drones' as Joe calls them. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 27, 2011, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
Joe's world view is that Tyrone combine method with talent better than Kerry and so beat them in every serious occasion they met since 1993 1986. Kerry tried to copy them and did so quite successfully but could never master them. Tyrone copied it from Armagh and did it better.

We're aiming for our quarter-century this year!  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 27, 2011, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
Joe's world view is that Tyrone combine method with talent better than Kerry and so beat them in every serious occasion they met since 1993 1986. Kerry tried to copy them and did so quite successfully but could never master them. Tyrone copied it from Armagh and did it better.

We're aiming for our quarter-century this year!  ;)
twas typo...amended now but you have a point :-)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stibhan on July 27, 2011, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is
Brolly isn't a QC, but GAA fans seem to be constantly fascinated by mixing up the terms barrister and Queen's Counsel. There is a significant difference.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 27, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
I'm heading home for the quater finals so I'll get to all the teams bar Dublin and ill get a better appreciation of how teams play but I think cork do play a very modern game. Their midfielders and half backs get forward repeatedly and they mix the possession game with fast delivery quite well. Counihan isn't the greatest tactician in the world but I don't think cork play thoughtless football, though I agree they aren't maximising their potential.

On the brolly/Davis thing, I think Brolly is a decent analyst of modern football while Davis is woeful and unable to get across a coherent opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: borderfox on July 27, 2011, 12:55:03 PM
Davis is so boring and usually steers clear of criticizing any team no matter how bad they have been. Hes the Gary Lineker of the GAA world utterly boring with no edge whatsoever to his 'punditry'. Davis and Martin Carney are easily the worst pundits/ commentators in the country. Even Mark Sidebottom is better than these two.
At least Brolly has the balls to say something controversial and can usually back it up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 27, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: borderfox on July 27, 2011, 12:55:03 PM
Davis is so boring and usually steers clear of criticizing any team no matter how bad they have been. Hes the Gary Lineker of the GAA world utterly boring with no edge whatsoever to his 'punditry'. Davis and Martin Carney are easily the worst pundits/ commentators in the country. Even Mark Sidebottom is better than these two.
At least Brolly has the balls to say something controversial and can usually back it up.

Lineker is a presenter (not an analyst), presenters usually sit on a fence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on July 27, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
His central point seemed to be that Cork's defenders couldn't also play as attackers - a fact which Davis was proud of and stated 'in his day he wasn't allowed to cross the half way line' blah blah. He seems to have the same warped view of history as Spillourke as I remember Davis clearly opening the scoring in the '93 final with a superb point from 40 yards.

Correct and right  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL5dJsWeqkI

Looking back at the 93 final, I can see where Brolly might be getting the basis for his philosophy that your midfield and half backs should be contributing to the attack and its not necessarily from the "modern game". The Derry midfield both scored from play, Henry Downey scored, Gary Coleman got forward to hit the post and Johnny Mc Guirk scored off both feet, including that famous one off the left peg at the end. That's numbers 5-9 contributing five points from play in an AI final, while Brolly only scored one himself!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on July 27, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
His central point seemed to be that Cork's defenders couldn't also play as attackers - a fact which Davis was proud of and stated 'in his day he wasn't allowed to cross the half way line' blah blah. He seems to have the same warped view of history as Spillourke as I remember Davis clearly opening the scoring in the '93 final with a superb point from 40 yards.

Correct and right  :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL5dJsWeqkI

Looking back at the 93 final, I can see where Brolly might be getting the basis for his philosophy that your midfield and half backs should be contributing to the attack and its not necessarily from the "modern game". The Derry midfield both scored from play, Henry Downey scored, Gary Coleman got forward to hit the post and Johnny Mc Guirk scored off both feet, including that famous one off the left peg at the end. That's numbers 5-9 contributing five points from play in an AI final, while Brolly only scored one himself!!

Also note there that as well as half backs all attacking (like the ones you mention), many half forwards were defending (dermot heaney for derry, barry coffey and don davis for cork etc) and that was only 1 min of footage that I looked at.

There's alot of shite talked these days about systems and stuff. I think the only thing that really changed was that teams now systematically channel players back and get closer to their full back lines i.e. blanket defence.

This clip shows that nearly 20 years ago forwards defended and defenders attacked. It also highlights just how much utter crap the likes of Davis, Spillane and O'Rourke (Spillourke for short as they blend into one sometimes) spout on tv. Spillane used to pick the ball up on his own 20 yard line more often than not. RTE should have a cull of these clowns.

Brolly should watch this himself to see the facts you correctly point out. I think he believes Tyrone and Armagh invented the game of gaelic football in the noughties.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AFS on July 27, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?

www.rte.ie/player/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 27, 2011, 06:48:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYyE4RhUQdw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYyE4RhUQdw)

Watch the first minute of this and watch defenders who attacked. The first score is set up by Cork full back Mark O'Conner the second scored by Mayo CHB James Nallen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on July 27, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 27, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?

www.rte.ie/player/

About an hour in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 27, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on July 26, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 26, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Some posters probably don't know the story of what happened Davis that week imho he deserves great credit for even lining out.

I wouldn't have been there if it were me.

What is it?

nobody gonna say what this was? a pm will do rightly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on July 27, 2011, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJjwzrfeR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJjwzrfeR)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gerry on July 27, 2011, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJjwzrfeR4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJjwzrfeR4)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on July 28, 2011, 10:34:32 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 27, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 27, 2011, 06:44:58 PM
Quote from: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?

www.rte.ie/player/

About an hour in.

I watched again on Monday, Ithink its about 1.27 in, just after wee James
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.


Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
Quote from: Bogball XV on July 27, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.
is that made up or can you back it up - I honestly don't know, it's just that since pauld kindly provided some stats on Cork half back scoring, i'd like to see figures from now on.
League and championship separate of course and number of games played will also be essential.


http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/Stats-that-July-28.aspx

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 29, 2011, 11:09:34 AM
those stats are incorrect aswell as tyrone scored 1-02 from their defence against armagh, not 1-01
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on July 29, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.


Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Yes, I did read it and is why I said "Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect". My post was attempting to explain what I thought was the rationale behind what he was saying from a football point of view. He is a media figure and will use language to wind people up. Part of the terriority. It's also an objective opinion and not to be taken seriously. It's opinion, not fact. Anyone taking grave offence at that needs to grow up. Glad Donal Og got his way. There would probably have been some class of a strike had he not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: borderfox on July 29, 2011, 12:16:02 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 29, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.


Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Yes, I did read it and is why I said "Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect". My post was attempting to explain what I thought was the rationale behind what he was saying from a football point of view. He is a media figure and will use language to wind people up. Part of the terriority. It's also an objective opinion and not to be taken seriously. It's opinion, not fact. Anyone taking grave offence at that needs to grow up. Glad Donal Og got his way. There would probably have been some class of a strike had he not.
:D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bogball XV on July 29, 2011, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 29, 2011, 11:09:34 AM
those stats are incorrect aswell as tyrone scored 1-02 from their defence against armagh, not 1-01
easy mistake to make, seeing s o'neill scored 0.1 you'd just presume it was stephen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on July 29, 2011, 03:40:52 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.


Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Its amazing Brolly makes a living at being a barrister. Maybe the intellectual powerhouse that is Donal Óg should give up trying to get paid for playing hurling and get into the legal game as he's sure to be better than Brolly at that. We could get the audience in the Cork Opera House to be the jury in any case he tries!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 29, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.


Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Yes, I did read it and is why I said "Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect". My post was attempting to explain what I thought was the rationale behind what he was saying from a football point of view. He is a media figure and will use language to wind people up. Part of the terriority. It's also an objective opinion and not to be taken seriously. It's opinion, not fact. Anyone taking grave offence at that needs to grow up. Glad Donal Og got his way. There would probably have been some class of a strike had he not.

Youre right, its not to be taken seriously because it was a load of balls.
Cusack sent Brolly back to derry with his tail between his legs and now he fires pot shots at cork from the safety of his newspaper!
What happened to Tohill this year, did the Kerry mafia take him out? At least there was one good pundit from Derry.





Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on July 29, 2011, 08:13:28 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 05:24:31 PM
Quote from: sheamy on July 29, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 29, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
Quote from: sheamy on July 27, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Quote from: Chris agus Snoop on July 27, 2011, 09:45:28 AM
Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.


Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Yes, I did read it and is why I said "Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect". My post was attempting to explain what I thought was the rationale behind what he was saying from a football point of view. He is a media figure and will use language to wind people up. Part of the terriority. It's also an objective opinion and not to be taken seriously. It's opinion, not fact. Anyone taking grave offence at that needs to grow up. Glad Donal Og got his way. There would probably have been some class of a strike had he not.

Youre right, its not to be taken seriously because it was a load of balls.
Cusack sent Brolly back to derry with his tail between his legs and now he fires pot shots at cork from the safety of his newspaper!
What happened to Tohill this year, did the Kerry mafia take him out? At least there was one good pundit from Derry.

Dont be sore at us just because your lad got his arse handed to him by Brolly .... you Cork lads are just powder puffs when it comes to the crunch, whether its football or punditry !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on July 31, 2011, 09:51:09 PM
The Cork half back line truly showed up Brolly to be wrong by scoring 100% of their second half total today  ;)  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 31, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 27, 2011, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: mckieran on July 27, 2011, 06:32:20 PM
Is there anywhere to watch the Brolly/Davis spat?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJjwzrfeR4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJjwzrfeR4)

O thats funny stuff, thanks for putting that up, hadn't seen it.

But the quote of the clip had to be "I've no doubht we have Cork and Kerry playing again." EGG  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 31, 2011, 10:09:01 PM
O wait I should have watched the full way through.

Brolly: "they will wipe the floor with Mayo" x2
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 31, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Am I hallucinating or did  just hear McStay saying (twice) that when the ball comes back off the post, the attacker is ONSIDE ? ? ? I must be. Otherwise this is the most lunatic thing I've ever heard a GAA pundit say, leaving Tommy Lyons and his gain line in the shade.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 31, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 31, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Am I hallucinating or did  just hear McStay saying (twice) that when the ball comes back off the post, the attacker is ONSIDE ? ? ? I must be. Otherwise this is the most lunatic thing I've ever heard a GAA pundit say, leaving Tommy Lyons and his gain line in the shade.

he certainly did, i noticed it in the live commentary earlier. he said "as such" the end of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Radda bout yeee on July 31, 2011, 10:28:56 PM
McGuinness dead right! mcgeeney was stuck!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 31, 2011, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 31, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 31, 2011, 10:22:43 PM
Am I hallucinating or did  just hear McStay saying (twice) that when the ball comes back off the post, the attacker is ONSIDE ? ? ? I must be. Otherwise this is the most lunatic thing I've ever heard a GAA pundit say, leaving Tommy Lyons and his gain line in the shade.

he certainly did, i noticed it in the live commentary earlier. he said "as such" the end of it.

I noticed that, OK. What does "as such" mean?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EagleLord on July 31, 2011, 10:41:42 PM
Why has Harte refused to talk to the Sunday Game for ages now?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Overthebar! on July 31, 2011, 10:47:43 PM
Fair play to McGeeney there in the post match interview. Can't see what Donegal are crying about, no angels themselves which McGeeney touched on with his comment about what some of the Donegal players said to him after the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Radda bout yeee on July 31, 2011, 10:47:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 31, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on July 31, 2011, 10:28:56 PM
McGuinness dead right! mcgeeney was stuck!
Was like a child at school caught without his homework done.

LMAO! i loved the south aramgh response - he's knows were i'm at!!!! lol its a wonder he didn't say we know were jim lives!!!!! lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EagleLord on July 31, 2011, 10:53:02 PM
He was very fumbly and stuttery in response alright!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stevie g 8 on July 31, 2011, 10:54:16 PM
Mc geeney spoke well and kept his dignity when asked such a stupid question
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EagleLord on July 31, 2011, 10:56:45 PM
Aye to be fair, he did hold back when he said about what players said to him after the game, being a man about it and didnt yap about it. And sayin 'he knows where I am if he wants to talk to me' Class!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stevie g 8 on July 31, 2011, 11:10:19 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 31, 2011, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: Stevie g 8 on July 31, 2011, 10:54:16 PM
Mc geeney spoke well and kept his dignity when asked such a stupid question
Spoke well? How long did it take him to get a proper sentence out?
He was put in the spot with and had to be careful how he answered it,he ovbiously didn't want to cut loose and come across as a bad loser
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Overthebar! on July 31, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Think we know who the culprit is  :D

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/541833/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 31, 2011, 11:42:09 PM
Anyone got any links to recordings of tonights sunday game, would love to see it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on August 01, 2011, 12:37:32 AM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on July 31, 2011, 10:28:56 PM
McGuinness dead right! mcgeeney was stuck!

Mcgeeney was only stuck as he didn't want to come across as a bad loser. McGuiness was doing exactly the same as he was accusing Kildare of doing - playing the media. All this how we were not the dirty team and how the referee did so well with this extra pressure. All he is trying to do is suck up to the referees so his team might get a few more 50:50 decisions the next day out. Pot and kettle if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 01, 2011, 12:41:18 AM
Quote from: EagleLord on July 31, 2011, 10:53:02 PM
He was very fumbly and stuttery in response alright!

Yeah I was a bit surprised at that.
Never would have happened back in the days when he had a proper haircut.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mckieran on August 01, 2011, 01:22:42 AM
Anybody have a link to the article they were referring to?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on August 01, 2011, 07:30:48 AM
Why should he not highlight it [persistent fouling] in the media? Should he trust referees given the decisions that have gone against Kildare?!!!

McGuinness said they don't coach and tell their players to systematically foul. That's just plain old telling lies. He should get off his high horse. I've seen more whinging from him on the Sunday Game this year than any other manager.

McGeeney was a gent afterwards in light of the goal which would have put them six up and game over. Yes, the leak on the subject was an attempt to draw the referees attention to it but sure if you weren't gonna do it Jim, what's the issue?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on August 01, 2011, 09:34:06 AM
McGuinness showed his lack of experience last night and let himself down. Came accross very badly. I hope Tyrone beat Dublin so we get a chance set the record straigh and send him up the road.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 01, 2011, 10:37:26 AM
Jim would have been better saying nothing in the immediate aftermath of the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whiskeysteve on August 01, 2011, 10:57:35 AM
would hesitate to agree with the last 2 comments. you have to remember the man runs a psychology consultancy, fair enough that can be a lot of spoof and bullshittery, but the point is he would be constantly thinking about the mind games with his team, other teams and the press.

I reckon Jim has been trying a create a siege mentality with donegal this year and has been quite successful in doing so. his comments at the weekend are a further extension of this. he will not give a damn (more or less) about how he comes across if he continues to promote this mentality.

I would have to say that Donegals mental strength has been their most impressive asset this year. Saying as this is more or less the same group of players that have crumbled at time in the past I think its obvious that the panel has bought 100% into Jims approach this year, so credit to him for that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Doogie Browser on August 01, 2011, 10:58:50 AM
I thought he was going to cry!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 01, 2011, 11:36:03 AM
It was an interesting contrast in post-game demeanour, OK. You expect an ould whinge from the beaten manager, not the winner. McGeeney was the essence of sportsmanship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 01, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
That kind of sh*t being put into the media is bang out of order and nothing but mind games to influence referees and personally I think he's right to highlight this. Referees get enough pressure without this rubbish.

Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho have brought this sh*t into soccer and personally I think, in the amateur or professional game, it's a disgrace.  It is more of a disgrace in an amateur game but in my view it has no place in either.

McGeeney did well after not being sure what to say and I don't think it was him peddling this anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on August 01, 2011, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 01, 2011, 11:36:03 AM
It was an interesting contrast in post-game demeanour, OK. You expect an ould whinge from the beaten manager, not the winner. McGeeney was the essence of sportsmanship.

Imagine Donegal people whinging - how rare!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Overthebar! on July 31, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Think we know who the culprit is  :D

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/541833/

Pure mouth!! Hope they go no further!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on August 01, 2011, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Overthebar! on July 31, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Think we know who the culprit is  :D

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/541833/

Pure mouth!! Hope they go no further!

What was said or what do you mean by this? Anyone know what was said to McGeeney?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Doogie Browser on August 01, 2011, 01:53:01 PM
I don't like this goading of the opposition after a victory, lacks class.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 01, 2011, 02:09:10 PM
"Hey Geezer, you've plenty of time to get that hair cut now!"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2011, 02:31:55 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.

How is it hypocritical to complain (after the match is over) about the Kildare selector trying to use the media to influence the referee?

If McGuinness had tried to use media mind games beforehand and then complained about Kildare doing the same, then yes, that would indeed be hypocritical.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 01, 2011, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.

Youthinks wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Link on August 01, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Can the sunday game be watched online in the north? Missed it last night!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Link on August 01, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Can the sunday game be watched online in the north? Missed it last night!

I think its the island of Ireland only until Wednesday night. Rest of the world after that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on August 01, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.

Correct. They all use the media. Jimmy has used it from day one. He had a new panto villain every week. Baker Bradley, Pat Spillane etc etc.

Every time you make statements or give interviews to journalists you are using the media. The rest is only subject. As long as there are no personal attacks on private lives of the opposition, or talking about things outside of football, then all is fair game.

Some managers highlight things to try and lure opponents into a false sense of security. Some on a tactic used by the opposition like a diagonal ball. No different than highlighting the Donegal tactic of fouling round the middle of the pitch. Anyway, good job noone is talking about it now and it obviously hasn't worked! Well, worked for Kildare. A Mickey Harte plot perhaps?  :D

Sure McGeeney spoke out after the Derry game that Doyle was being targetting by teams for rough treatment. How is that any different? I didn't see anyone jumping up and down then. That was obviously an attempt to get refs onside to an issue as well. All managers do this. McGuinness should get off his high horse along with anyone else taking offence. As WhiskeySteve pointed out this is nothing but an attempt to build seige mentality. Fair play as well. It's entertaining if not a little laughable at times. Noone should take it seriously though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Link on August 01, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Link on August 01, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Can the sunday game be watched online in the north? Missed it last night!

I think its the island of Ireland only until Wednesday night. Rest of the world after that.

Cheers, i'll try it here again now!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 01, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Link on August 01, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Link on August 01, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Can the sunday game be watched online in the north? Missed it last night!

I think its the island of Ireland only until Wednesday night. Rest of the world after that.

Cheers, i'll try it here again now!

Cheers I'll catch it wednesday so, can't wait.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 10:03:37 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on August 01, 2011, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 01:47:07 PM
Quote from: Overthebar! on July 31, 2011, 11:12:05 PM
Think we know who the culprit is  :D

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/541833/

Pure mouth!! Hope they go no further!

What was said or what do you mean by this? Anyone know what was said to McGeeney?

You dont taunt a rival manger after a victory and it shows how much respect for the oppoistion Murphy had. NONE!. The sooner their out the better!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 01, 2011, 10:27:57 PM
How do you know he was taunting him?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 01, 2011, 10:27:57 PM
How do you know he was taunting him?

It has been posted that a player said something to Geezer after the game(Which their was no call for) he hardly said "Well Kieran any winners at Galway?"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cosmo Kramer on August 01, 2011, 11:22:04 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 01, 2011, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Link on August 01, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Link on August 01, 2011, 02:49:44 PM
Can the sunday game be watched online in the north? Missed it last night!

I think its the island of Ireland only until Wednesday night. Rest of the world after that.

Cheers, i'll try it here again now!

Cheers I'll catch it wednesday so, can't wait.

Some Mayo related Sunday Game clips from the weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfdxS0CvjC0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfdxS0CvjC0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKrctUQDPU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKrctUQDPU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoUEoVCmX0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoUEoVCmX0)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: reddgnhand on August 01, 2011, 11:24:18 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 01, 2011, 10:27:57 PM
How do you know he was taunting him?

It has been posted that a player said something to Geezer after the game(Which their was no call for) he hardly said "Well Kieran any winners at Galway?"

How do you know whats going on in that photo?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgael on August 01, 2011, 11:29:02 PM
It has been posted several times already!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: sheamy on August 01, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.

Correct. They all use the media. Jimmy has used it from day one. He had a new panto villain every week. Baker Bradley, Pat Spillane etc etc.

Every time you make statements or give interviews to journalists you are using the media. The rest is only subject. As long as there are no personal attacks on private lives of the opposition, or talking about things outside of football, then all is fair game.

Some managers highlight things to try and lure opponents into a false sense of security. Some on a tactic used by the opposition like a diagonal ball. No different than highlighting the Donegal tactic of fouling round the middle of the pitch. Anyway, good job noone is talking about it now and it obviously hasn't worked! Well, worked for Kildare. A Mickey Harte plot perhaps?  :D

Sure McGeeney spoke out after the Derry game that Doyle was being targetting by teams for rough treatment. How is that any different? I didn't see anyone jumping up and down then. That was obviously an attempt to get refs onside to an issue as well. All managers do this. McGuinness should get off his high horse along with anyone else taking offence. As WhiskeySteve pointed out this is nothing but an attempt to build seige mentality. Fair play as well. It's entertaining if not a little laughable at times. Noone should take it seriously though.

Correct Sheamy totally agree. McGuinness could of been classy about it and not mentioned it to the media afterwards. It gave Donegal an edge during the game which they won, no need to bring it into the public domain afterwards .At least McGeeney was gracious in defeat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: reddgnhand on August 01, 2011, 11:53:53 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: sheamy on August 01, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.

Correct. They all use the media. Jimmy has used it from day one. He had a new panto villain every week. Baker Bradley, Pat Spillane etc etc.

Every time you make statements or give interviews to journalists you are using the media. The rest is only subject. As long as there are no personal attacks on private lives of the opposition, or talking about things outside of football, then all is fair game.

Some managers highlight things to try and lure opponents into a false sense of security. Some on a tactic used by the opposition like a diagonal ball. No different than highlighting the Donegal tactic of fouling round the middle of the pitch. Anyway, good job noone is talking about it now and it obviously hasn't worked! Well, worked for Kildare. A Mickey Harte plot perhaps?  :D

Sure McGeeney spoke out after the Derry game that Doyle was being targetting by teams for rough treatment. How is that any different? I didn't see anyone jumping up and down then. That was obviously an attempt to get refs onside to an issue as well. All managers do this. McGuinness should get off his high horse along with anyone else taking offence. As WhiskeySteve pointed out this is nothing but an attempt to build seige mentality. Fair play as well. It's entertaining if not a little laughable at times. Noone should take it seriously though.

Correct Sheamy totally agree. McGuinness could of been classy about it and not mentioned it to the media afterwards. It gave Donegal an edge during the game which they won, no need to bring it into the public domain afterwards .At least McGeeney was gracious in defeat.

To be fair to McGuinness the adrenalin was still going and i've no doubt he will regret bringing the matter up in front of the camera. I thought McGeeney handled it very well and accepted defeat in the proper manner.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2011, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 11:35:15 PM
Quote from: sheamy on August 01, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: borderfox on August 01, 2011, 02:25:11 PM
McGuinness didnt like Kildare talking to the media so he goes and talks to RTE about it.Tinge of  Hypocrisy there methinks.

Correct. They all use the media. Jimmy has used it from day one. He had a new panto villain every week. Baker Bradley, Pat Spillane etc etc.

Every time you make statements or give interviews to journalists you are using the media. The rest is only subject. As long as there are no personal attacks on private lives of the opposition, or talking about things outside of football, then all is fair game.

Some managers highlight things to try and lure opponents into a false sense of security. Some on a tactic used by the opposition like a diagonal ball. No different than highlighting the Donegal tactic of fouling round the middle of the pitch. Anyway, good job noone is talking about it now and it obviously hasn't worked! Well, worked for Kildare. A Mickey Harte plot perhaps?  :D

Sure McGeeney spoke out after the Derry game that Doyle was being targetting by teams for rough treatment. How is that any different? I didn't see anyone jumping up and down then. That was obviously an attempt to get refs onside to an issue as well. All managers do this. McGuinness should get off his high horse along with anyone else taking offence. As WhiskeySteve pointed out this is nothing but an attempt to build seige mentality. Fair play as well. It's entertaining if not a little laughable at times. Noone should take it seriously though.

Correct Sheamy totally agree. McGuinness could of been classy about it and not mentioned it to the media afterwards. It gave Donegal an edge during the game which they won, no need to bring it into the public domain afterwards .At least McGeeney was gracious in defeat.

It was al over the papers before the game. Kildare put this stuff in the public domain, not McGuinness. f**k it, McGuinness has a bunch of players who would die for the jersey. Do you not think his public defense of his players helps foster that attitude?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: borderfox on August 02, 2011, 12:05:16 AM
Look I have nothing against Donegal or Jim McGuinness for that matter. In fact i was delighted to see Donegal win. All I'm saying is I think he would of been better served keeping it to himself. Donegal used it to their advantage out on the field, No need to tell the media about it all afterwards the game was over.
To be honest id be suprised if McGeeney even knew about to be honest. His reaction says it all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: reddgnhand on August 02, 2011, 12:10:09 AM
Quote from: borderfox on August 02, 2011, 12:05:16 AM
Look I have nothing against Donegal or Jim McGuinness for that matter. In fact i was delighted to see Donegal win. All I'm saying is I think he would of been better served keeping it to himself. Donegal used it to their advantage out on the field, No need to tell the media about it all afterwards the game was over.
To be honest id be suprised if McGeeney even knew about to be honest. His reaction says it all.

Would agree with that. McGeeney seemed confused during the interview and i'm quite sure he knew nothing about the story.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 02, 2011, 02:06:21 AM
Whether or not he came up with or even just approved of the idea of the media plug on the cynical fouling, I find it impossible to believe that McGeeney knew nothing about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on August 02, 2011, 11:21:40 AM
Brolly: No pleasure in Cork 'I told you so'
By John Fogarty

Tuesday, August 02, 2011

CONTROVERSIAL GAA pundit Joe Brolly says he takes no pleasure from Cork's defeat to Mayo in Sunday's All-Ireland quarter-final.

The Derry native came in for criticism in recent weeks following his own scathing comments made about Conor Counihan's side.

In his Gaelic Life column, parts of which were reproduced in the Irish Examiner, he claimed Cork had a "primitive approach" and were a "dumb team".

Brolly believes the latter was an unfortunate choice of words but he stands by his appraisal of Cork as a team who are unable to play to their potential by virtue of how they are organised.

"My point has always been that Cork have been playing at 60% of what they could be playing at," said Brolly.

"I take no pleasure in Cork having exited the championship. Whenever I'm talking about Cork I'm not thinking that I'm talking about Limerick.

"You don't patronise All-Ireland champions but you do look at them carefully. Cork fell over the line last year.

"This year was an opportunity for them to kick on. They had the raw materials. There were some pretty obvious tweaks to be made and problems to be solved. There comes a day when power and hard-running isn't enough. There's no such thing as an easy All-Ireland but they made it harder for themselves than it ought to have been."

Brolly has been inundated with messages congratulating him on being proven right about Cork but he doesn't feel that way.

After saying the All-Ireland champions would "wipe the floor" with Mayo on The Sunday Game the weekend before last, he knows he was wrong on at least one count. But he insists it was a case of when not if Cork's shortcomings were going to be exposed.

"Thousands, and I mean thousands, have been texting, emailing and phoning to say that I'm right and I've been vindicated. That has got nothing to do with it. Cork were most definitely caught on the hop.

"The worst thing that could have happened was the early (Donncha O'Connor) penalty. I could feel it in the stadium, there was this sense of "ah, here we go again".

"But Mayo aren't Limerick. They weren't going to coast through the game without pushing themselves. Mayo are a Division 1 team. They also packed their defence and played with a two-man full-forward line, which was effective and gave them a bit more room. There was less congestion for them going forward but when Cork attacked Mayo retreated en masse. Cork persisted with the man-to-man football and it didn't work.

"I said last year that they were the purveyors of dumb football but that wasn't a great phrase. What I meant was their strategy is basic. That it's inflexible, off-the-cuff and man-to-man football that you either sink or swim with."

Brolly is aware of how he has been painted among Cork people.

Last week Larry Tompkins suggested he might get "a poke" the next time he turns up in Cork. "I've become the panto villain with Cork people but after the game on Sunday I was introduced to a few Cork supporters by Tomás Mulcahy. Among them were Conor Counihan's wife and his son. His son was emotional after the defeat and I tried to cheer him up. I said, 'Imagine what it's like to be me, a Derry person'. That made him smile.

"The reality is sometimes these things get blown out of proportion to make a lively debate but there's that mutual respect that Gaels have for one another. There's been some good fun between Tony Davis and myself because personalities are also involved. It had got to an extreme, though. My opinions are those of a committed armchair general!"

However, Brolly maintains he was right to question the credentials of Cork.

"I just don't agree with the theory put forward by Pat Spillane that Cork were a tired team. He was making an excuse for not saying the obvious. My belief about Cork was strengthened last year when they beat Derry in a league game in Celtic Park last year.

"They murdered us with their sheer size and power but they only beat us by a point. It was then that I thought they had serious problems. Cork do many good things. They played with integrity, courage, honesty and they're hard-working. They are a reflection on the character of their manager.

"But I've been saying for three years that Donncha O'Connor and Daniel Goulding have been under-utilised. A three-man full-forward line is one too many. There's no space for the finishers.

"Goulding was a big loss to Cork. He may have been expected to score another three or four points, which would have likely seen them win the game. Cork also don't have enough scorers from positions 5 to 9. Tyrone, in that area, scored 2-7 against Roscommon.''

Brolly highlights how Tyrone on Saturday started man-to-man against Roscommon before realising that the opposition were more than they expected. As a result, they re-jigged, bringing in Brian Dooher to control around the back with wing-forward Peter Harte moving into a deeper position as a sweeper.

"It was game over with those modifications. If Cork had done that, deployed a sweeper they would have won. I've always seen Paul Kerrigan as a link man between defence and attack, a bit like Declan O'Sullivan is for Kerry.

"That's where I see his great pace, strength and work-rate utilised best. Paul's not a natural full-forward. If your natural instinct is to solo run you're not a full forward. Donncha O'Connor is a natural full-forward.

"Eoin Cadogan could be a good sweeper as could Michael Shields but Cork couldn't keep affording to go man-to-man. Do that against the likes of Michael Murphy or Colm Cooper and you're going to lose."

Brolly's adamant if it wasn't Mayo, another of the other remaining four teams would have beaten Cork at some stage this year. But he believes Cork can come back a better side next year if they embrace the sweeping/blanket defence.

"It's all common sense. The more men you have behind the ball the more difficult you make it for the opposition to get through.

"With a few minor modifications, Cork would be a much better team. Whenever that happens they'll turn from a potentially great team into a great team."

Read more: http://www.examiner.ie/sport/gaa/brolly-no-pleasure-in-cork-i-told-you-so-162882.html#ixzz1TrjH2n00
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whitegoodman on August 02, 2011, 01:13:16 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 02, 2011, 02:06:21 AM
Whether or not he came up with or even just approved of the idea of the media plug on the cynical fouling, I find it impossible to believe that McGeeney knew nothing about it.

Would agree with this, either that or McGeeney would want to keep a tighter reign on his backroom staff.

I would say Geezer was more surprised at the question being asked rather that what the question asked.  He took about 30 seconds to waffle and still didnt answer the question.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 02, 2011, 06:31:02 PM
Brolly is claiming that thousands, and he means thousands, of people have either his mobile number, his home number or his email address.

I haven't any of them.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 02, 2011, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 02, 2011, 06:31:02 PM
Brolly is claiming that thousands, and he means thousands, of people have either his mobile number, his home number or his email address.

I haven't any of them.  >:( >:( >:(

Maybe there is an RTE email address that the public can sned their comments to. Or Gaelic Life.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 02, 2011, 10:07:03 PM
QuoteI haven't any of them. 

send a letter to his house

(http://www.atlantarealestateforum.com/wp-content/photos/2010/11/umbrella-house.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on August 06, 2011, 06:37:56 PM
Was Joe enjoying a few glasses of vino with lunch again?

Also, I wonder what the hairdressing budget for the Sunday Game is!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on August 07, 2011, 09:36:27 AM
What ye make of the sniggerin by Brolly and O'Rourke towards Spillane in the post Dublin Tyrone match analysis?

Spillane does talk some shite alright but thought it was fairly ignorant all the same. It's obvious that Spillane and Brolly can't abide each other but its getting like something out of the xfactor in their analysis.

Any chance that Micheal Daigian could to switch to the football.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Club Rossa on August 07, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
Watched RTE coverage when i got back last night,O'Rourke and Brolly tipping Tyrone before it,O'Rourke saying that Tyrone were simply a better team.Then at the final whistle thet were saying that it was the end of an ere,they're finished etc.
You could take a man off the street to do that analysis yesterday and he wouldn't have cost as much as those bluffers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EagleLord on August 07, 2011, 12:45:41 PM
A fickle bunch alright. Ye would be better off getting in a couple of supporters every week, at least then ye would get a bit of passion or something. As you say, their job is not difficult in the slightest. On the other hand, get Ross Carr back in, liven it up abit too...................
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 07, 2011, 01:38:58 PM
I like orourke, however Id say he lost his hole last night................... he bragged about two bets last night tyrone on the handicap and unders in total points, lost on both counts....................he looked like he was going to cry
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 01:40:55 PM
I watched the half-time analysis on the Beeb.
Wee James looked like he was on school around the corner, perched on the edge of the couch wearing his communion shoes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EagleLord on August 07, 2011, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 01:40:55 PM
I watched the half-time analysis on the Beeb.
Wee James looked like he was on school around the corner, perched on the edge of the couch wearing his communion shoes.

Watched him the last day, its the way he sits forward and joins his hands! :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 01:50:09 PM
He should take a leaf out of Brollys book and sprawl back on the couch giggling away to himself every time McHugh says something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: No1 on August 07, 2011, 10:29:08 PM
QuoteWee James looked like he was on school around the corner, perched on the edge of the couch wearing his communion shoes.

:D

f**king brilliant Jinxy!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 10:50:32 PM
If you took that bit of paper off Tony Davis would he be able to remember any of the players names?
He's bad enough with it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bridgegael on August 07, 2011, 10:53:26 PM
oisin talks alot of sense,  alot more insightful that brolly and co!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 10:50:32 PM
If you took that bit of paper off Tony Davis would he be able to remember any of the players names?
He's bad enough with it.

He was struggling for names again tonight and was showing a clip of a Tyrone defender and called him Philly McMahon
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on August 07, 2011, 11:32:04 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 07, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 10:50:32 PM
If you took that bit of paper off Tony Davis would he be able to remember any of the players names?
He's bad enough with it.

He was struggling for names again tonight and was showing a clip of a Tyrone defender and called him Philly McMahon

He's a cute boyo. He had a 50% chance of getting 50% of his name right!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2011, 11:38:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 07, 2011, 11:29:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 10:50:32 PM
If you took that bit of paper off Tony Davis would he be able to remember any of the players names?
He's bad enough with it.

He was struggling for names again tonight and was showing a clip of a Tyrone defender and called him Philly McMahon

There's something in that. I was with a man who called Stephen O'Neill Philly O'Neill. Even today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 07, 2011, 11:38:44 PM
It's easily done.
Philly is a very popular name after all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 07, 2011, 11:45:24 PM
Davis has been thru a bit of a rough patch over the last couple of weeks, I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt, and it wasnt related to mayos marvelous display btw
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on August 07, 2011, 11:53:43 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 07, 2011, 11:45:24 PM
Davis has been thru a bit of a rough patch over the last couple of weeks, I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt, and it wasnt related to mayos marvelous display btw

Maybe some of the folk you've been acting the bollix with this evening on this DB have too for all you know. Hypocrite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 07, 2011, 11:57:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 07, 2011, 11:53:43 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 07, 2011, 11:45:24 PM
Davis has been thru a bit of a rough patch over the last couple of weeks, I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt, and it wasnt related to mayos marvelous display btw

Maybe some of the folk you've been acting the bollix with this evening on this DB have too for all you know. Hypocrite.

Its ok for one and not for another, no ??? who have I offended or acted the balls with ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on August 08, 2011, 12:03:13 AM
The three guys tonight on the Sunday game all went for Kerry v Dublin final so over to Mayo,Donegal to prove them wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 08, 2011, 12:54:37 AM
The GAA announced tonight that the All Ireland Semi-Finals involving Mayo & Kerry and Donegal & Dublin have been cancelled to avoid any unnecessary injuries to players.

The All Ireland Final will take place as scheduled on Sept 18th.

Mayo will play Donegal in a 3rd/4th place play-off on Sept 11th.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on August 08, 2011, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!
All semi final teams are on form & unbeaten, you'd swear Kerry,Dublin are the same level as Tipp,Kilkenny in Hurling the way pundits are talking them up.

I fancy at least one shock in the semi finals.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 08, 2011, 02:48:34 AM
Quote from: ross4life on August 08, 2011, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!
All semi final teams are on form & unbeaten, you'd swear Kerry,Dublin are the same level as Tipp,Kilkenny in Hurling the way pundits are talking them up.

I fancy at least one shock in the semi finals.

All-Irelands in the last decade, Mayo, Dublin, Donegal all on zero. Pedigree about the same methinks. If its pedigree on making it to All-Ireland finals in the last decade, it surely should be Kerry, Mayo and Donegal/Dublin in that order.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on August 08, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Quote from: ross4life on August 08, 2011, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!
All semi final teams are on form & unbeaten, you'd swear Kerry,Dublin are the same level as Tipp,Kilkenny in Hurling the way pundits are talking them up.

I fancy at least one shock in the semi finals.
I agree. There could even be two. I think Donegal have a great chance. They won't be as naive as Tyrone were. Brogan and Connolly will never get that room again. This could be a great game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on August 08, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: sheamy on August 08, 2011, 09:34:02 AM
Quote from: ross4life on August 08, 2011, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!
All semi final teams are on form & unbeaten, you'd swear Kerry,Dublin are the same level as Tipp,Kilkenny in Hurling the way pundits are talking them up.

I fancy at least one shock in the semi finals.
I agree. There could even be two. I think Donegal have a great chance. They won't be as naive as Tyrone were. Brogan and Connolly will never get that room again. This could be a great game.

It will be car crash Gaelic Football. On a par with Antrim v Donegal. Probably one of the least entertaining games of the year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on August 08, 2011, 12:04:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!

Define "history"?! Dublin have 1 All-Ireland in nearly 30 years, Mayo have none in even longer. Donegal have 1 in total.

Outside the Kerry team, there are no players with AI medals. That kind of "history" is irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on August 08, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 07, 2011, 09:36:27 AM
What ye make of the sniggerin by Brolly and O'Rourke towards Spillane in the post Dublin Tyrone match analysis?

Spillane does talk some shite alright but thought it was fairly ignorant all the same. It's obvious that Spillane and Brolly can't abide each other but its getting like something out of the xfactor in their analysis.

Any chance that Micheal Daigian could to switch to the football.....

They get on fine. Brolly and O'Rourke are known to (and have acknowledged) that they love to wind-up Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 08, 2011, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 07, 2011, 09:36:27 AM
What ye make of the sniggerin by Brolly and O'Rourke towards Spillane in the post Dublin Tyrone match analysis?

Spillane does talk some shite alright but thought it was fairly ignorant all the same. It's obvious that Spillane and Brolly can't abide each other but its getting like something out of the xfactor in their analysis.

Any chance that Micheal Daigian could to switch to the football.....

Ah it was only the once when Brolly was praising/slagging Spillane as the greatest ever player or something alone those lines that O'Rourke burst out laughing, even Lyster had to hold himself back. O'Rourke didn't really acknowledge any more of Brolly's wind-ups even though Brolly was trying to make eye contact with him, reminded me of Conor Lenihan's outburst on the Vincent Browne show  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on August 08, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
QuoteOutside the Kerry team, there are no players with AI medals. That kind of "history" is irrelevant.

Check your history, our lads (Mayo) have up to 7 and possibly more within the squad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on August 08, 2011, 09:22:34 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
QuoteOutside the Kerry team, there are no players with AI medals. That kind of "history" is irrelevant.

Check your history, our lads (Mayo) have up to 7 and possibly more within the squad.

Pedant. You know what I meant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 09, 2011, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 08, 2011, 01:49:10 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 08, 2011, 01:03:26 AM
What do you expect them to say. Dublin and Kerry are the form teams and the teams with the history and pedigree to back it up.

I think Donegal have an outside chance but Kerry will definitely beat Mayo. Every shred of info points to a Kerry Dublin final so why are pundits getting hauled over the coals for saying it?!
All semi final teams are on form & unbeaten, you'd swear Kerry,Dublin are the same level as Tipp,Kilkenny in Hurling the way pundits are talking them up.

I fancy at least one shock in the semi finals.

Love the way you dismiss the analysts for their views, but then call it a shock if Mayo and Donegal win. But you didnt say which one. Are you saying its wrong that Dublin and Kerry are favourites?

In any event, the pundits on the Sunday Game on Sunday night in no way suggested it would be a walkover for Kerry and Dublin. They all said Mayo and Donegal should not be written off. They did tip Kerry and Dublin to win, like the bookies.

Meaning any experts who fancy a "shock" can make big bucks with Mayo at 4/1, Donegal at 3/1 and the Mayo-Donegal double at 19/1.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 14, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
 :D
McStay is about to stab Tony Davis in the face with his biro.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 14, 2011, 11:01:41 PM
Spillane is like a parody of a sports analyst. I always think of Apres match watching him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc7LkllDNmQ
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 14, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
:D
McStay is about to stab Tony Davis in the face with his biro.

McStay war right all the way, Davis still sulking after the quater final. McStay defo tore him a new hole.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 15, 2011, 12:20:05 PM
When Davis said "Mayo are losers" I could hear McStays teeth grinding.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 15, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 14, 2011, 11:01:41 PM
Spillane is like a parody of a sports analyst. I always think of Apres match watching him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc7LkllDNmQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDC5DGPJ1CI&feature=related 

a favourite of mine
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 15, 2011, 01:24:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 15, 2011, 12:20:05 PM
When Davis said "Mayo are losers" I could hear McStays teeth grinding.

Davis will do anything to stop Kerry winning Sam, sick listening to him reading from his notes, I'd nearly bring back Tommy Lyons instead.

I said nearly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 15, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
I think they should do a fans zone instead. Get different people in that were at the match. Vet them beforehand, and then get a skilled presenter to guide the discussion. I'm not talking about a Fan Zone type roar fest, but more like the chat people say when they are watching the Sunday Game anyway.

At this stage the pundit format for GAA has become tired. It's either a platform for controversial comments, or just nonsense mumbling. Even a panel with a well informed fan type (or a local paper journo) from each county and 1 of a Brolly/Davis/Spillane might be a better TV, as the fans could take any stupid comments to task.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
Davis claimed that Keith Higgins was one of the best backs in the country in football (possibly) and hurling! Its been a while since I have seen our hurlers play, but Keith was always a forward when I saw them play. Any lads who follow Mayo hurling regularly care to comment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
Davis claimed that Keith Higgins was one of the best backs in the country in football (possibly) and hurling! Its been a while since I have seen our hurlers play, but Keith was always a forward when I saw them play. Any lads who follow Mayo hurling regularly care to comment.

I;m not the greatest hurling fan I must admit, but he does play in the forwards with them alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2011, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
Davis claimed that Keith Higgins was one of the best backs in the country in football (possibly) and hurling! Its been a while since I have seen our hurlers play, but Keith was always a forward when I saw them play. Any lads who follow Mayo hurling regularly care to comment.

I;m not the greatest hurling fan I must admit, but he does play in the forwards with them alright.

So Davis just presumed he was one of the best backs in hurling in the country, just because he plays for the Mayo hurling team too. I know he is a very effective forward, and Connacht has choosen him on a few occassions for the Inter-pros, but always as a forward as far as I know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 15, 2011, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
I think they should do a fans zone instead. Get different people in that were at the match. Vet them beforehand, and then get a skilled presenter to guide the discussion. I'm not talking about a Fan Zone type roar fest, but more like the chat people say when they are watching the Sunday Game anyway.

At this stage the pundit format for GAA has become tired. It's either a platform for controversial comments, or just nonsense mumbling. Even a panel with a well informed fan type (or a local paper journo) from each county and 1 of a Brolly/Davis/Spillane might be a better TV, as the fans could take any stupid comments to task.

Match of the Day is no better. Da da da da da da da
The format has been flogged to death .
And it's like the internet doesn't exist. 
There are so many ways to look at a match . But 3 middle aged smart casual ex players going through the motions, give us a break 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 15, 2011, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2011, 03:17:38 PM
Davis claimed that Keith Higgins was one of the best backs in the country in football (possibly) and hurling! Its been a while since I have seen our hurlers play, but Keith was always a forward when I saw them play. Any lads who follow Mayo hurling regularly care to comment.

I wouldn't worry about it.
Tony was probably just mixing him up with someone else.
As usual.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 15, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 15, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 14, 2011, 11:01:41 PM
Spillane is like a parody of a sports analyst. I always think of Apres match watching him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc7LkllDNmQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDC5DGPJ1CI&feature=related 

a favourite of mine

And this one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTog_cbfH-g
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on November 06, 2011, 04:35:08 PM
With friends like Brolly........

Former Derry All-Ireland winner Joe Brolly, one of the most high-profile contributors to RTE's live coverage of major championship matches, accepts that everyone is entitled to their view but recalls a recent incident that took place outside Croke Park which perhaps puts another perspective on matters.

"Myself and Colm O'Rourke were coming out of Croke Park at the end of a long day and this guy comes up to Colm and in colourful language let him know what he thought of his opinions, referring to them as crap," says Brolly.

"Colm listened politely to him and when the guy had finished he said to him — 'Do you know the best part of all this, I'll get paid again for delivering much the same crap next Sunday!"


http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=1119081 (http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=1119081)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on November 06, 2011, 08:34:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 06, 2011, 04:35:08 PM
With friends like Brolly........

Former Derry All-Ireland winner Joe Brolly, one of the most high-profile contributors to RTE's live coverage of major championship matches, accepts that everyone is entitled to their view but recalls a recent incident that took place outside Croke Park which perhaps puts another perspective on matters.

"Myself and Colm O'Rourke were coming out of Croke Park at the end of a long day and this guy comes up to Colm and in colourful language let him know what he thought of his opinions, referring to them as crap," says Brolly.

"Colm listened politely to him and when the guy had finished he said to him — 'Do you know the best part of all this, I'll get paid again for delivering much the same crap next Sunday!"


http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=1119081 (http://www.anfearrua.com/db.asp?a=topicdisplay&tid=1119081)
"long day" - what time did the bar open at Joe?. You are looking at a maximum of 1 hours analysis even for a double header.

It's not like Joe does any pre match swotting up. Then again it is a barrister and a teacher so it probably seemed like a long days work ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2012, 08:57:56 PM
McGeeney right to slam critics

By Declan Bogue

Consider Kieran McGeeney for a minute. He isn't given to communicating with the GAA public through the media too often, but when he does, he contributes something of weight and worth.

On the radio last Saturday, he hit on a riff about the paucity of quality analysis of Gaelic games. It went to the heart of a matter that has frustrated followers for some time now.

"I think analysis of our games is poor, at best," he said. "Nobody wants to look at why things happen, how things are moving on or progressed and why people use different tactics. All those sort of things which I believe are the interesting parts of the game — they just want to give out.

"Maybe that's what sells, maybe that's why Eastenders is the most popular TV programme, because people like to be depressed.

"Statistically we don't know what happens in a game or why it happens, and how it leads to success. We try to pontificate based on very little knowledge and anecdotally."

The same question was put to Tyrone boss Mickey Harte at the launch of the league finals at Croke Park, and as ever, he was illuminating.

"There's far too much negativity and people harking back to past days, suggesting that they were the only days that ever existed, that football was at its top level. Now we are at the next level of where the game has gone.

"Let's talk up what's good about our games. People are not positional in how they play the game — they are actually total footballers. A corner back is now comfortable taking a score, a corner forward is comfortable putting in a last-ditch block. Why should numbers mean anything? Let's be creative in the extreme to add as many skills as we can to our repertoire."

It's a fair bet to say that a good bit of this criticism is aimed at the RTE three-headed beast of O'Rourke, Brolly and Spillane.

And McGeeney and Harte are right in what they say. In their own ways, all of them have pigeon-holed themselves into a cartoonish image of their own beliefs. You know the script before they open their mouths.

In America they can't get enough of statistical analysis, and have programmes such as ESPN's 'The Sports Reporters', where three respected journalists will discuss the week's sporting concerns. To survive in that format requires an agile thought process, plenty of hard evidence and a little humility to accept what others say.

It's a million miles away from Pat Spillane coining crude phrases such as 'puke football' to repeat ad nauseam. That kind of errant schoolboy schtick, however, has sustained his punditry career for the last decade.

We say all this, but then we must recognise the reality of television.

It is not an arm of the GAA. It is entertainment, plain and simple. Soundbite is king and there isn't the time nor have they identified the expertise to get drawn into a discussion about the nuts and bolts of the game.

On any summer Sunday, an inter-county Championship game will be screened. Those that care about it are in the ground. Those not present but with a direct involvement in the GAA are most likely at a club game.

What is left over is a broad base of consumers, deliberating over watching the Gah or the Antiques Roadshow.

Give them a choice between a nerd-off between GAA writers throwing facts and figures at each other or watching Joe Brolly slouching on a sofa gesticulating wildly while he reveals the third secret of the blanket defence to the obvious discomfort of Spillane. It's not hard to see which they might prefer.

Perhaps television delivers the kind of analysis viewers deserve, and no more.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/declan-bogue/declan-bogue-mcgeeney-right-to-slam-critics-16153156.html


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on May 08, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
Good article but the last 4 paragraphs are bullshit. Have they not heard of sky plus? Recording? And the Sunday game is on late at night when it can be viewed by all. I don't mind some of the Craic amongst the boys but proper statistical analysis would also be nice.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on May 08, 2012, 10:03:37 PM
I find it hard to believe RTE deliberately have the pundits they do for entertaining the general sporting viewers. I think they honestly believe it is top class stuff they are serving up.

Many people on a Sunday can't get to a game for whatever reason, do they not deserve professional analysis of the game rather than a Monty Python sketch. TV3 in fairness to them try and bring stats into the game and there is more of an attempt at actual analysis on BBC (maybe because they have n ads and have time to fill).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadhlancian on May 08, 2012, 11:15:58 PM
Definetly very true! Was listening to the radio this morning in the car, and the sports station guys were talking about baseball! There are stats such as hits, walks , RBI ( runs batted in) on base % etc. I live in San Diego and the padres are shite to put it mildly! These guys were talking about how the Padres players not only have poor batting averages, but also brought up the fact that there is an actual stat in the paper , showing how many pitches they actually SAW in each at bat!! So if a player had 1 hit in 4 at bats, most people would be fine with that stat....the count one shows that although they may been gotten out, they may have had the pitcher throw them say 12 pitches to get them out. Just thought it was remarkable that on a shite team , in the ealry part of the year , someone would be keeping an eye on this ?

P.s Did I go a bit there?? ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 08, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
Baseball is made for stats though.
I wouldn't like to see gaelic football go down that route.
Meaningful statistics are great but I've no interest in hearing about how Bernard Brogan has an 85% success rate when he kicks off his left foot in the last 5 minutes of a game played in the rain.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadence on May 09, 2012, 12:55:20 AM
one of the problems with the rte boys seems to be their need to have a pissing competition between them every week. it would be nice to see people on there who can actually do analysis without letting their egos get in the way.

i'd like to see proper analysis, with evidence for that analysis provided. tactics are rarely broken down and analysed... the how teams are setting up and what is done to counteract this set up and the further switches that happen as a game evolves. it's as if rte have a romanticised sentimental perspective of the game instead of the reality of it. it's more commentary than analysis, about "kicking and fielding" skills, and not much else. the game is more sophisticated than that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 09, 2012, 07:11:01 AM
i'd love to see the stats on how many actually watch the 1/2 time and full time analysis on rte anymore. Like the article says you know what curly larry and moe are going to discuss anyway, more of the same auld shit* that we have been listening to the last 15 years. Me personally i'd rather have my teeth pulled out than listen to their opinions of the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2012, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
Baseball is made for stats though.
I wouldn't like to see gaelic football go down that route.
Meaningful statistics are great but I've no interest in hearing about how Bernard Brogan has an 85% success rate when he kicks off his left foot in the last 5 minutes of a game played in the rain.

A few years ago in the Sindo Christy O Connor did a full stats run down on the hurling final and it came across as something for a very special(ist) audience. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 09, 2012, 10:53:25 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2012, 08:52:44 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
Baseball is made for stats though.
I wouldn't like to see gaelic football go down that route.
Meaningful statistics are great but I've no interest in hearing about how Bernard Brogan has an 85% success rate when he kicks off his left foot in the last 5 minutes of a game played in the rain.

A few years ago in the Sindo Christy O Connor did a full stats run down on the hurling final and it came across as something for a very special(ist) audience.

And the stats for that game are selectively quoted by certain coaches to embellish their agenda such as in the 2011 AI final the ground stroke was used three times, the average time in possession of the ball was 1.7 seconds or the likes. Five minutes later the same coach was giving off to a fella for raising the ball with one hand on the hurley. I asked him what the stats for the one handed lift as opposed to the two handed lift were for the same game, strangely he didn't have them to hand!

Stats have value if they're relevant, but I'm not so sure I want to listen to stats being churned out at half time and full time.

I like Donal O Grady as he's fairly clued in, but will sit on the fence on any contentious matters, whereas Duignan goes sailing straight in whether he's right or wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on May 09, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
The journalists job is to use stats to illustrate - of course an article just quoting stats is going to be crap, its pulling out the less obvious revealing ones, and using them to illustrate the journalists take on tactics/games, and doing so in an entertaining way
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2012, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on May 09, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
The journalists job is to use stats to illustrate - of course an article just quoting stats is going to be crap, its pulling out the less obvious revealing ones, and using them to illustrate the journalists take on tactics/games, and doing so in an entertaining way

I came across this video the other day. Gerry Thornley on rugby. He doesn't do the stats overload 
Sports journalism at its best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EvLk-r3kXc&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2012, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2012, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on May 09, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
The journalists job is to use stats to illustrate - of course an article just quoting stats is going to be crap, its pulling out the less obvious revealing ones, and using them to illustrate the journalists take on tactics/games, and doing so in an entertaining way

I came across this video the other day. Gerry Thornley on rugby. He doesn't do the stats overload 
Sports journalism at its best

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EvLk-r3kXc&feature=player_embedded

I don't see how it is. Nearly everything there is stats based or factually based. Anything else is barely opinion.

I'm a massive fan of stats as it can completely debunk who is perceived to be playing badly. I've witnessed Tyrone players getting slaughtered in the stands (and in the RTE studio) while the stats show they're the most economical players on show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 09, 2012, 10:45:30 PM
Yeah but that isn't always a good thing.
The more aware players become of their stats, the more 'cheap' stats they might try and accrue i.e. always taking the simple, safe option might make you a legend on a spreadsheet but that's not much use if you've lost the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2012, 10:53:18 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 09, 2012, 10:45:30 PM
Yeah but that isn't always a good thing.
The more aware players become of their stats, the more 'cheap' stats they might try and accrue i.e. always taking the simple, safe option might make you a legend on a spreadsheet but that's not much use if you've lost the game.

You seem to assume that the player is a much more highly intellectual being than the manager or stats man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 09, 2012, 11:34:56 PM
Aussie rules fans are always talking about players getting cheap stats.
Disposal efficiency would be one category.
Simple passes bump up your %.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on May 10, 2012, 12:27:19 AM
Look, stats can be used and conversely, abused. They might tell a tale sometimes but they often don't give viewers a clearer picture of the essence of a game. What I think would be useful though, is charts/screens to show the actual positions players took up  and runs/delivery of the ball. TSG have used hawkeye a bit last year so thats a step in the right diection at least.
Geezer has a point though on the quality of analysis overall. I just think some of the people RTE (and don't get me started on TV3) select to appear are clueless. Tony Davis is a prime example. an utter spoofer.
Aside from being an ex-player, they should be looking at people who have experience of managing/coaching at a decent level. O'Rourke has coached a fair bit, not sure about Brolly (to be fair, he can be smarmy but I think he knows the game at least), Spillane for all the spoofery and pre-prepared terrible jokes, has at least coached at senior c/ship level in Kerry. Anthony Tohill was pretty good, if a bit bland, but was got rid of. I must say, the preview of the c/ship didn't encourage me in this regard when I saw Colm Parkinson as part of the panel along with Martin McHugh. Whoever selects some of these "analysts" should be fired..but then again RTE Sport is now headed by Ryle Nugent, so expecting quality is probably expecting too much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on May 10, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
Have  a serious dislike of stats and particularly the people who place massive reliance on them.

Give me the forward any day who kicks 4 points from say his 9 "possessions" as opposed to the guy with say 20 "possessions" and a "successful disposal " rate of say 90%.

Some amount of spoofers/charlatans imvho hiding behind stats.

However , going to contradict myself here and say that I am always interested in the champions league to see how much the players ran during the game.

If you ever want to see a game destroyed by statistics go no further than baseball.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on May 10, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 09, 2012, 10:45:30 PM
Yeah but that isn't always a good thing.
The more aware players become of their stats, the more 'cheap' stats they might try and accrue i.e. always taking the simple, safe option might make you a legend on a spreadsheet but that's not much use if you've lost the game.

ffs - then surely if the passing success percentages are high and you lost the game, then you'd perhaps have the commonsense to say, 'right, that stats not the telling one on this occasion'. You'd look at all aspects, and work on what they show, the above scenario would  show for e.g. a lot of lateral or backward passes, so you'd look at no of forward passes, and thats where you'd identify the problem.

Stats cant be manipulated by players, they're just figures, its those presenting them that can manipulate them, and its important that the correct ones are presented. For e.g, someone who say wants to keep their shot success percentage high will turn down anythgin but certain scores, but that will be identified by looking at the number of shots he took and comparing to say possessions inside the scoring zone.

Noones gonna listen to someone representing a team thats losing saying 'look at the stats, we're doing great, it must be bad luck'. The story will be in the stats somewhere, its just extracting it.

Canalman, you already contradicted yourself in your second sentence by comparing two stats - just cos the first didnt use stats - style language doesnt make it not a stat. It seems similar to ones saying 'I've no interest in politics' - well, you must do, cos it kinda involves everything....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 10, 2012, 02:53:08 PM
Be quiet Haranguerer!
We all know you want to destroy gaelic football as we know it and create a scenario whereby Seanie Johnston gets a cash bonus for every point he scores with his left foot on a windy day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on May 10, 2012, 05:27:10 PM
Seanie cant get paid, its an amateur game. Hes a caring sort however, and does have a charity close to his heart, so welcomes cheques on behalf of Cavan Amateur Sportstars Hospital, made out to CASH  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 10, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 10, 2012, 11:08:14 AM


However , going to contradict myself here and say that I am always interested in the champions league to see how much the players ran during the game.



Headless chickens can top that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 11, 2012, 08:46:03 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 10, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 10, 2012, 11:08:14 AM


However , going to contradict myself here and say that I am always interested in the champions league to see how much the players ran during the game.



Headless chickens can top that.

I've never seen anyone substituted who's ran less km than the average, which is strange unless the goalkeeper is included in the stats!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 11, 2012, 10:39:34 AM
It's not so much about distance as intensity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on May 20, 2012, 10:35:31 PM
Instead of reading out tweets (RTE seem to be obsessed with Twitter as Sean Gallagher knows) and features thought up by transition year students such as My Hero would it be difficult for the Sunday Game to have something like top 5 scores of the day?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 20, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Thought Dolan was good with a good knowledge of the game. A mexican volleyball player with a rough grasp of Irish geography would be better than Tony Davis, a f**king bollix. Good score, game of two halves, the Barden brothers are brothers, fucks sake Tony tell us something new.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on May 20, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
The winter break leaves you with rosier memories of the Sunday Game than it deserves. First programme back and they remind you just how wrong they get the simple things.

Its been clear for years that genuine GAA fans don't give a shite about Dan the bollocks talking to a the handful of Deise fans who travelled down to an empty Limerick, looking at old footage of Frankie Dolan or watching a preview of the upcoming hurling, or all the other unnecesary filler that they stuff into the programme, to take away from what it should be about.

Its simple, you show a decent amount of actual hightlights from all the days games and put Davis and Mc Stay in front of a firing squad. Whoever puts this shit together needs to buy new crayons, my six year old would do a better job of putting this show together
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 20, 2012, 11:11:36 PM
Must say I enjoyed the Frankie Dolan footage, those two points from the Kildare qualifier were immense. Disgrace that he didn't get an allstar that year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 20, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Thought Dolan was good with a good knowledge of the game. A mexican volleyball player with a rough grasp of Irish geography would be better than Tony Davis, a f**king bollix. Good score, game of two halves, the Barden brothers are brothers, f**ks sake Tony tell us something new.

He reckoned John Heslin benefited enormously from his aussie rules experience.
He wasn't over there long enough to get a tan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 21, 2012, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2012, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 20, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Thought Dolan was good with a good knowledge of the game. A mexican volleyball player with a rough grasp of Irish geography would be better than Tony Davis, a f**king bollix. Good score, game of two halves, the Barden brothers are brothers, f**ks sake Tony tell us something new.

He reckoned John Heslin benefited enormously from his aussie rules experience.
He wasn't over there long enough to get a tan.

Jinxy,

Best line of the year.

Davis is such tool, he spend more time fixing his hair, and picking out a hideous shirt and tie than he does analyzing the game.

His analysis on the Mayo V Kerry game last month was particularly brutal.

As they say, he must have pictures on somebody in Dublin 4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ExiledGael on May 21, 2012, 10:14:47 AM
Does the Sunday Game appear on the RTE Player? Is it available to Nordies?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 21, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
It's an amazing "word" indeed - the only non-existent word that has two wrong meanings.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stevie g 8 on May 21, 2012, 12:54:32 PM
The dan shanahan piece was pure awful.i thought dessie dolan was good. As for false des and the other 2 with there limited knowledge letting on they know all the players from the weaker counties
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on May 21, 2012, 01:11:44 PM
Please please RTE, will ye take Davis and McStay and lock them up somewhere. They are dreadful hoors. Opening credits with the cult classic music gets the pulses racing, then the sight of the two boys just kills the mood completely. McStay made some balls of explaining the square ball rule too. That wee grimace he does would just make you want to plough a hurl off his nose. The Dan Shanahan piece sounded like a scene from snatch. Not bad, just a bit of wtf is this for...where did big Tohill go? He was decent. Likely costly though. You want people you think actually know what they are talking about. The hurling men know the craic. Why do we have to suffer such utter eejits for the football. It could only have been made worse if Bernard Flynn was on. 3/10.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 21, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Davis isn't too bad, but McStay is awful. Is there nobody better than him in the country?!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ludermor on May 21, 2012, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Hardy on May 21, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
It's an amazing "word" indeed - the only non-existent word that has two wrong meanings.

http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/12/inciteful.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 21, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
I refuse to recognise the court.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on May 21, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Dessie Dolan was a welcome change. I would prefer if they had a wider panel of experts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 21, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Davis isn't too bad, but McStay is awful. Is there nobody better than him in the country?!

Compared to who?
Pol Pot?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Go home ref on May 21, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 21, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Davis isn't too bad, but McStay is awful. Is there nobody better than him in the country?!

Compared to who?
Pol Pot?

Pol Pot knew more about football ffs he's awful even worse then McStay and he's hideous although Dessie Dolan was good about time they had someone connected with the modern game on enough of the dinosaurs and "kick passing" and more people who understand the game today
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: panc56 on May 21, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
Conor Deegan is pretty good on Newstalk. They seem to be some click in RTE. O'Rourke is honest , but Spillane is dated. The show needs new ideas and new people. It's not helping the game itself. The first one to get the boot should be Lyster! He does my head in , it's like Pat Kenny does GAA.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on May 21, 2012, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: johnpower on May 21, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Dessie Dolan was a welcome change. I would prefer if they had a wider panel of experts.

There are no experts. Just opinions and mostly noise. There is, if anything, too much analysis, but it is really not analysis at all. Everybody has an agenda - including viewers coming from different places as well as the 'experts'.

Like, I would have time for McStay but unfortunately I was present for  the annual clusterwank about Galway forwards that O Rourke and Spillane started again on Sunday.

Lyster is one of the main reasons the format doesn t work. Interrupts when he shouldn t and lets Brolly go unchecked when he should be able to check him . His - and his producer s - handling of the League Final debate distances him from any credibility.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2012, 11:43:31 PM
Spillane and his 'foot into football' routine makes me want to do my 'foot into telly' routine.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Leo on May 22, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
Brolly is the main reason I don't watch it anymore so I cannot comment on McStay. Shanahan or anyone else. Dire TV at any level as you would expect from a seriously overpaid monopoly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on May 22, 2012, 12:20:51 AM
TG4 who are run on a shoe-string in comparison could teach RTÉ a thing or two. They've no fancy graphics or gimmicky crap (like the Donie Shine feature last night) yet their production is a million times more professional than RTÉ's. They also don't have the endless stream of pundits that RTÉ seem to think the viewers want. The show on a Friday night with Dara Ó Cinnéide puts any of RTÉ's recent midweek offerings to shame and their highlights programme is exactly that - a highights programme. The night edition of The Sunday Game these days consists of about a token 5 minutes on every match followed by 10 minutes of McStay and the likes bleating on about turnovers, hotzones and other assorted nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 22, 2012, 12:55:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on May 21, 2012, 11:38:31 PM
Quote from: johnpower on May 21, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Dessie Dolan was a welcome change. I would prefer if they had a wider panel of experts.

the annual clusterwank

Greatest phrase ever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2012, 01:17:23 AM
Still unbelievable that Dessie may not be lining out for Westmeath again. Looked every inch a top-five forward for Garrycastle this year. You can't really over-state the importance of a player of his quality, he may well have been the difference in Westmeath winning yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 22, 2012, 01:24:41 AM
We are pretty much agreed, Sunday game analysis consists of wheeling out the same agenda driven egomaniacs every year to tell us what we know. Analysis pretty much consists of this;
Tyrone have alot of young players coming through, there's too much hand-passing, Kerry are a Croke Park team, Galway have some great lovely fowards w**k, w**k, w**k, Donegal defence isn't one for the purists, there's alot of hand-passing, players today are over conditioned, Cork are a big strong team, not sure if you know this but Mayo have a poor record in finals, did i mention that teams today hand-pass alot, Munster teams play less matches (Spillane spent 2 minutes last night explaining how Donegal have to play more games, we can read a f**king fixtures table Pat).

Spillane and Brolly are just two squabbling wind-bags that think analysis comes second to winding each other up. RTE thinks this shite is all we want to see every season year on year.
O'Rourke is actually a reasonable pundit when removed from being the arbitrator between the aforementioned gobshites.

Davis, McStay and Carney all to some degree drive us insane. Davis knows sweet FA about the game and just inserts random comments applicable in any situation (t'was a game of two halves, that'll be a tough match next week). I don't find McStay too bad to listen to and I think he has a reasonable grasp of the game. For me Martin Carney is the first man I would kick down the N11 if I was in RTE, the most agenda driven bastard every to get handed a mike. Seems to think all passes should be kicked with the team with the most high catches in the match declared winners. Players, rules, managers are all plotting against the "spectacle" we all want which seems to be a 13-side match where all passes must travel 50 yards or more and finishes with the first team which scores 15 goals and 264 points. And Nordies. f**king Nordies ruin everything.

As someone said TG4 have an excellent broadcast. Young analysts who have better knowledge and less clichéd vocabulary who get on with the job without agenda's or fuss. Canavan, Tohill, Dolan, O'Cinnede are the way to go, the kinda lads you could listen too without feeling the urge to kick something.
The sad thing is that RTE's hurling analysts are decent enough with Loughnane being the only ego about the place. Farrell and Deignan amongst others are decent to listen too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 22, 2012, 02:00:06 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2012, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 21, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Davis isn't too bad, but McStay is awful. Is there nobody better than him in the country?!

Compared to who?
Pol Pot?

;D  ;D  ;D  Good man Jinxy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2012, 09:53:24 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2012, 01:24:41 AM
We are pretty much agreed, Sunday game analysis consists of wheeling out the same agenda driven egomaniacs every year to tell us what we know. Analysis pretty much consists of this;
Tyrone have alot of young players coming through, there's too much hand-passing, Kerry are a Croke Park team, Galway have some great lovely fowards w**k, w**k, w**k, Donegal defence isn't one for the purists, there's alot of hand-passing, players today are over conditioned, Cork are a big strong team, not sure if you know this but Mayo have a poor record in finals, did i mention that teams today hand-pass alot, Munster teams play less matches (Spillane spent 2 minutes last night explaining how Donegal have to play more games, we can read a f**king fixtures table Pat).


great stuff. That would make a fabulous skit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on May 22, 2012, 10:15:27 AM
Yeah, several of the analysts have already said all they are ever going to say and are just repeating.
Spillane constantly on about the "long kick pehss" and players not practicing kicking has gone beyond tiresome.

Also, too much time of the highlights sections is wasted on post-match manager interviews. At best 1 in 10 of them might throw up something remotely interesting, the rest are pure bland. I'd rather see more match action instead.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on May 22, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
In fairness this is becoming a total whingefest.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2012, 10:27:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2012, 01:17:23 AM
Still unbelievable that Dessie may not be lining out for Westmeath again. Looked every inch a top-five forward for Garrycastle this year. You can't really over-state the importance of a player of his quality, he may well have been the difference in Westmeath winning yesterday.

Oh no question we'd have won if Dessie was playing, exactly what we were short of, someone to kick points from the inside line. To be fair he's been on the go for over 3 years straight, what with the provincial club campaigns finishing up in December. He was sick as a parrot in February, shouldn't have played against Brigids, yet was man of the match, see http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0317/1224313471401.html (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0317/1224313471401.html). He did look a bit haggered on TSG and probably does need the rest. Hopefully we'll see him back for the qualifiers or next year.

Thought he spoke well on Sunday night but the other two clampots kept cutting in with any random thought they had and Dessie's words kinda got lost. McStay isn't the worst but maybe I just save my ire for Davis, Jaysus, he drives me nuts. Can't believe RTE got him back again this year. Next they'll have him co presenting Championship Matters with Marty f**king Morrissey.  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Yeah, I thought Dessie looked a bit shook on the Sunday Game. He always speaks well, and is good on the radio. Looks like he needs a while off, maybe a holiday with a few beers and a few steaks. He deserves a break anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on May 22, 2012, 11:26:11 AM
Lads I now watch the games with the sound off and leave when the "analysis" starts. Similarly on the highlights show - I go for a cuppa.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 22, 2012, 11:28:09 AM
Dessie Cahill looked very fit. Either there are a few sunbeds in the dressing rooms in Cuala or he likes his sun breaks. Also I would like a word with his barber - there is nary a grey hair in place.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Another season, the Sunday Game is still shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Yeah, I thought Dessie looked a bit shook on the Sunday Game. He always speaks well, and is good on the radio. Looks like he needs a while off, maybe a holiday with a few beers and a few steaks. He deserves a break anyway.

Doesn't drink but I'm sure he would relish the steaks. Shamrocks getting over the line this year would probably do him the world of good, although I'm sure he wouldn't look at it like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2012, 12:53:50 PM
Funny how alot of pundits and journalists were raving about Galway yesterday yet it was only a few weeks ago that they were all saying Division 2 is dung and that Tyrone and Kildare came up from a division loaded with useless sides.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2012, 11:22:56 AM
Yeah, I thought Dessie looked a bit shook on the Sunday Game. He always speaks well, and is good on the radio. Looks like he needs a while off, maybe a holiday with a few beers and a few steaks. He deserves a break anyway.

Doesn't drink but I'm sure he would relish the steaks. Shamrocks getting over the line this year would probably do him the world of good, although I'm sure he wouldn't look at it like that.

I know he doesn't drink, but he could still do with a few :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Yeah on May 22, 2012, 02:26:26 PM
Ah he looked a  bit off surely! Not like DES!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2012, 11:42:05 AM
Another season, the Sunday Game is still shite.
Between TSG and the Late Late RTE is in a bit of a rut.
But you can't beat 20 minutes of sport on the six one news on sunday evening 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on May 22, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: rrhf on May 22, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
In fairness this is becoming a total whingefest.

Well said
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: johnpower on May 22, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: rrhf on May 22, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
In fairness this is becoming a total whingefest.

Well said

Sure the Sunday game has been a whingefest for years, unless the hurling panel are on. Then it's a case of Ra Ra Go Team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2012, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: johnpower on May 22, 2012, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: rrhf on May 22, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
In fairness this is becoming a total whingefest.

Well said

Sure the Sunday game has been a whingefest for years, unless the hurling panel are on. Then it's a case of Ra Ra Go Team.

I've always noticed that the football panel go on an awful lot about any unsavoury incidents or negative tactics whereas the hurling panel kinda brush over any in the hurling, Ah shure it's just hurling Ger!!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 10:40:51 AM
The hurling lads try to promote the game and get people excited about it, if at all possible.

The football lads want to be controversial and generate 'talking points'.  That may be a dirty incident, which is ideal for their purposes, or, failing that, an awful game where they can go on about standards in the game.

They go on so much that they have lost effect, and any valid points they have get lost in the general malaise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.
so far Laois are the only D 1/2 team to lose in the first round to "inferior" opposition but there could be more. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 23, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.
so far Laois are the only D 1/2 team to lose in the first round to "inferior" opposition but there could be more.

Antrim was more of a shock than Laois.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 23, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.

You can't ridicule Lower Division Hurling teams, as they never meet the big guns in hurling.

Always thought that there should have been an an provincial hurling team for Connacht (minus Galway), Leinster (minus Offaly, Kilkenny, Wexford, Dublin) and Ulster that could compete in the championship. Imagine there are up to 24 counties each year that have no representation in a so called All Ireland Championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.

You can't ridicule Lower Division Hurling teams, as they never meet the big guns in hurling.

Always thought that there should have been an an provincial hurling team for Connacht (minus Galway), Leinster (minus Offaly, Kilkenny, Wexford, Dublin) and Ulster that could compete in the championship. Imagine there are up to 24 counties each year that have no representation in an so called All Ireland Championship.

Of course they could ridicule them. When Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard matches are shown or discussed, the hurling lads praise them and their efforts even if Kilkenny would beat the pick of them by 200 points.

In Football, a poor championship game gets slated, players skill levels are derided and questions asked about tactics etc. Football pundits want to be controversial, hurling pundits want to be evangelists.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2012, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.

You can't ridicule Lower Division Hurling teams, as they never meet the big guns in hurling.

Always thought that there should have been an an provincial hurling team for Connacht (minus Galway), Leinster (minus Offaly, Kilkenny, Wexford, Dublin) and Ulster that could compete in the championship. Imagine there are up to 24 counties each year that have no representation in an so called All Ireland Championship.

Of course they could ridicule them. When Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard matches are shown or discussed, the hurling lads praise them and their efforts even if Kilkenny would beat the pick of them by 200 points.

In Football, a poor championship game gets slated, players skill levels are derided and questions asked about tactics etc. Football pundits want to be controversial, hurling pundits want to be evangelists.

There's not much lower tier hurling on TV, so its not really an issue at present.

Your jist is right, you'll never hear a hurling analyst deride the quality of a game of hurling even if it was crud whereas their footballing counterparts seem to revel in it especially if the teams involved are from another county or province.

Spillane just loves the sound of his own voice.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 03:41:04 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2012, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 23, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.

You can't ridicule Lower Division Hurling teams, as they never meet the big guns in hurling.

Always thought that there should have been an an provincial hurling team for Connacht (minus Galway), Leinster (minus Offaly, Kilkenny, Wexford, Dublin) and Ulster that could compete in the championship. Imagine there are up to 24 counties each year that have no representation in an so called All Ireland Championship.

Of course they could ridicule them. When Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard matches are shown or discussed, the hurling lads praise them and their efforts even if Kilkenny would beat the pick of them by 200 points.

In Football, a poor championship game gets slated, players skill levels are derided and questions asked about tactics etc. Football pundits want to be controversial, hurling pundits want to be evangelists.

There's not much lower tier hurling on TV, so its not really an issue at present.

Your jist is right, you'll never hear a hurling analyst deride the quality of a game of hurling even if it was crud whereas their footballing counterparts seem to revel in it especially if the teams involved are from another county or province.

Spillane just loves the sound of his own voice.

That's true, but I remember the Rackard and Ring cups were on TV there at one stage, and the praise for the counties involved was fulsome, despite the fact that some of the play was poor. But yes, you have my train of thought alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2012, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 23, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 23, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
Also, if hurling analysts started ridiculing the standard of the Christy Ring and Rackard Cup teams it would be a huge no-no.
In football punditry the standard of Division 3 and 4 teams is regularly chastised - even though some of these counties have proven to be well capable of turning over the big names.
so far Laois are the only D 1/2 team to lose in the first round to "inferior" opposition but there could be more.

Antrim was more of a shock than Laois.
Hanley is doing a good job with Westmeath.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
Davis is such an annoying tit, watch out for when he watches some minnow like Leitrim and starts pretending to know something about their best player, talking about some score or anther in his patronising annoying voice. Sunday game tried to freshen itself up before by changing music, its the "experts" they need to freshen up not the bloody music.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on May 24, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 23, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
Davis is such an annoying tit, watch out for when he watches some minnow like Leitrim and starts pretending to know something about their best player, talking about some score or anther in his patronising annoying voice. Sunday game tried to freshen itself up before by changing music, its the "experts" they need to freshen up not the bloody music.

Spot on. Calling players by their first names is one of his favourite tricks..as if he knows them well. Ask anyone from Cork about the year he was put in charge of the Cork U-21s...to say "clueless" would be an understatement..they were hockeyed by Limerick. He is a total spoofer..the worst on RTE actually, and thats saying something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Onion Bag on May 24, 2012, 12:18:31 PM
The SG needs a full revamp, totally new panel, even replacing Michael Lyster, it is the same old shite every night only the teams are changing,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on May 24, 2012, 01:14:05 PM
Existing Football analysts are awful. Every year they bring a fresh face in who proves insightful, fresh and generally excellent and then he's gone never to be seen again.

Tony 'Where did I put my cheat notes' Davis is awful and and McStay is just as bad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on May 24, 2012, 02:36:11 PM
Who calls the shots for the Sunday game? Is it Ryle Nugent or would there be a specific person who is responsible for GAA output?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 24, 2012, 03:11:56 PM
Paul Byrne is the producer of TSG, he is responsible for all editorial content. He also decides the panel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 24, 2012, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 24, 2012, 03:11:56 PM
Paul Byrne is the producer of TSG, he is responsible for all editorial content. He also decides the panel.

Can we get him up in front of an Oireachtas inquiry like some of his bosses in the last few days?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2012, 10:38:41 PM
Think its a bit better tonight but Davis needs the door.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
How did Colm Parkinson get the ever increasing profile?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
How did Colm Parkinson get the ever increasing profile?

Because he is a muppet, the Joey Barton of the GAA world, the irony of him criticising Seanie Johnson when he left his own club for the dollars in Parnells in Dublin and played with Billy Sheehan, of course no one actually asked Colm about that, now that would have been a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on May 27, 2012, 10:49:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2012, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2012, 10:39:54 PM
How did Colm Parkinson get the ever increasing profile?

Because he is a muppet, the Joey Barton of the GAA world, the irony of him criticising Seanie Johnson when he left his own club for the dollars in Parnells in Dublin and played with Billy Sheehan, of course no one actually asked Colm about that, now that would have been a lot more interesting.

I wouldn't say Joey Barton, more Robbie Savage.

He'll add to the comedy value. He's bound to make a complete eejit of himself before September.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2012, 10:53:25 PM
He didn't say anything that Davis or whelan didn't also say. At least he has something to say better than the same old bull from the same old heads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ard-Rí on May 27, 2012, 11:49:38 PM
Anyone else see the ad for Marty's  new show during the break?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 27, 2012, 11:51:13 PM
Marty is a weird little freak and I'm sick of looking at him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on May 27, 2012, 11:59:25 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 27, 2012, 10:38:41 PM
Think its a bit better tonight but Davis needs the door.

I agree, also thought the layout of the show was a damn sight better, Davis was God awful as usual, that aside I thought Parkinson was a bit of craic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: panc56 on May 28, 2012, 07:32:28 AM
Even Cork people don't like Davis. A prat of the highest order.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2012, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 27, 2012, 11:51:13 PM
Marty is a weird little freak and I'm sick of looking at him.
You're not the only one. That ad for 'Championship Matters' was just awful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2012, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2012, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 27, 2012, 11:51:13 PM
Marty is a weird little freak and I'm sick of looking at him.
You're not the only one. That ad for 'Championship Matters' was just awful.

Is that the show with 'no cliché's'.

Marty has built up a career stringing cliché's together!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 28, 2012, 09:30:42 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2012, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 27, 2012, 11:51:13 PM
Marty is a weird little freak and I'm sick of looking at him.
You're not the only one. That ad for 'Championship Matters' was just awful.

plus he is a sh*t commentator . i'm pretty sure i heard him say during the kerry tipp game "that was a great score by declan o'sullivan finished off by tomas o'se  ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2012, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on May 28, 2012, 09:30:42 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2012, 07:39:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 27, 2012, 11:51:13 PM
Marty is a weird little freak and I'm sick of looking at him.
You're not the only one. That ad for 'Championship Matters' was just awful.

plus he is a sh*t commentator . i'm pretty sure i heard him say during the kerry tipp game "that was a great score by declan o'sullivan finished off by tomas o'se  ???

Yeah, you did. It was like this: "that was a great score by Declan O'Sullivan....(Marty shuffles through stats sheets for info about Declan O'Sullivan and camera goes to close up of scorer - Tomas Ó Sé) errr, finished off there by Tomas Ó Sé"

I thought Parkinson was grand last night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 28, 2012, 10:08:02 AM
I thought parkinson was grand aswell. freshend the thing up abit from the ususal crap
still cant stand tony davis though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on May 28, 2012, 10:38:29 AM
Parkinson was good and might utter a few controversial ones this year,  Whelan seems honest as well but maybe too nice.  Davis is piss poor.  Mc Stay isnt much better, Morrissey is needed to remind us not to use cliches.  So much so is that he is prepared to make a  show all about not using cliches within the GAA.  Should be good.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 28, 2012, 12:44:26 PM
Colm Parkinson is alright, they should maybe give John Cullinane a spot beside him. Liven things up a bit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 28, 2012, 12:48:16 PM
Wooly could be an asset for sure. Time to ditch Davis. Davis reminds me of Meehal Martin so on that alone he should get the flick. I don't mind McStay too much. Hate kicking Mayo people as they have enough to contend with.

I wish Whelo would stop waving the hands. Hoor waved them enough when he was playing  ;)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: timmyot501 on May 28, 2012, 12:59:16 PM
The fact that Parkinson was the "special guest" last night would suggest to me that his appearance on the Sunday Game is just a one off.  I thought he did fine too. Pity some of the others weren't there for just a one off too.  Some of the analysis is like trying to answer an exam question which you forgot was on the course resulting in pure waffle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 28, 2012, 01:03:38 PM
Brolly painful again yesterday. Davis awful as usual.
The contrast between the football "experts" and the hurly bucks is massive.
Farrell Loughnane etc try to analyse and al that whereas the football guys...... ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Go home ref on May 28, 2012, 01:46:44 PM
Colm Parkinson is a total knob
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on May 28, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
Parkinson was a welcome addition. He was probably too honest though. Saying Reilly was a one season wonder before now, having a go at the player who fisted over instead of going for goal and a few other criticisms at individual players. That won't go down to well in the GAA. It's fine to do that in relation to Premier League players across the water who won't even have heard of RTE but not GAA players down the road.
Also, the Meath player Brian Meade will need to have his full name called out when he's being referred to, because Meath and Meade were getting pronounced the same so it was sometimes confusing which one they meant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 28, 2012, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on May 28, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
Parkinson was a welcome addition. He was probably too honest though. Saying Reilly was a one season wonder before now, having a go at the player who fisted over instead of going for goal and a few other criticisms at individual players. That won't go down to well in the GAA. It's fine to do that in relation to Premier League players across the water who won't even have heard of RTE but not GAA players down the road.
Also, the Meath player Brian Meade will need to have his full name called out when he's being referred to, because Meath and Meade were getting pronounced the same so it was sometimes confusing which one they meant.

He's 100% right about that though.
Question: "When are you allowed to actually go for a goal?"
Answer: "When you score it."
Otherwise, fisting it over the bar is 'the right option'.
Total cop out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on May 28, 2012, 10:48:32 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2012, 01:03:38 PM
Brolly painful again yesterday. Davis awful as usual.
The contrast between the football "experts" and the hurly bucks is massive.
Farrell Loughnane etc try to analyse and al that whereas the football guys...... ::)
+1 Hurling analysts knew what they were talking about and were interested in how the game panned out.

A lot of the football pundits think they are movie critics. Davis's opinion is worthless after he complained the Armagh Tyrone semi final in 2005 wasn't open enough.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Leo on May 28, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 28, 2012, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on May 28, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
Parkinson was a welcome addition. He was probably too honest though. Saying Reilly was a one season wonder before now, having a go at the player who fisted over instead of going for goal and a few other criticisms at individual players. That won't go down to well in the GAA. It's fine to do that in relation to Premier League players across the water who won't even have heard of RTE but not GAA players down the road.
Also, the Meath player Brian Meade will need to have his full name called out when he's being referred to, because Meath and Meade were getting pronounced the same so it was sometimes confusing which one they meant.

He's 100% right about that though.
Question: "When are you allowed to actually go for a goal?"
Answer: "When you score it."
Otherwise, fisting it over the bar is 'the right option'.
Total cop out.

Ah yes the fisted point
The last refuge of the safe option.
I can't think of another sport in the world where there is a rule that if you are on top of the goal line you cannot score with a particular option (ie handpass, or throw as it is common;u used in so-called football these days) but, sure, you've come this far you might as well shovel it over the bar and we''ll give you a point.
Daft beyond parody.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
I think it's obvious that from now on the first 10-15 minutes of RTEs live coverage is going to be completely dedicated to trashing the game of gaelic football.
Really whets the appetite for the game to come.
As for Spillane and his 'statistics', it doesn't surprise me in the least that he picked a game played in a gale force wind (Tyrone v Kildare) to support his argument.
I think it's high time someone did a proper analysis of gaelic football trends over the last 30 years, that doesn't selectively pick the best examples of the past to compare with the worst examples of the present.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 03, 2012, 01:55:53 PM
Brollys Sub headline in the mail. Time to go Mick. And then proceeded to have a rant about older players.  Starting to dislike his approach.  I have always had a problem with Spillane I think he's like a nayin auld goat.  Next seasons rte approach must try something without these guys. They have no love for the game they represent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 02:25:21 PM
After the Wexford wing-back bent the ball over the bar with his right foot into the wind and then scored another one with his left foot a couple of minutes later I thought to myself, will they even mention this in the analysis?
Probably not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 03, 2012, 02:28:50 PM
Problem with football panelists is that we've heard their guff before. Could they not replace or reshuffle every now and again. Hurling now has Eddie Brennan and Liam Sheedy. Surely there are a few recently retired intercounty footballers to step in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
Thank God TV3 are showing the Dublin game and I'll get to listen to some actual analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 03, 2012, 02:38:21 PM
Any particular reason this game is being played at Croke Park? Doesn't add anything to see a game like this being played in an almost empty stadium when it might have generated a decent atmosphere in a smaller provincial ground.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 02:42:44 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 01:48:21 PM
I think it's obvious that from now on the first 10-15 minutes practically all of RTEs live coverage is going to be completely dedicated to trashing the game of gaelic football.


It's gone beyond a joke. We don't get that in any other sport. Soccer, rugby racing and other pundits criticise negative trends in their sport but they don't start from the position that everything about it is rubbish. The Nualas don't seem to have any genuine enthusiasm for their sport.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 02:47:50 PM
"Look at the support angle he took" - Martin Carney analysing a Wexford score.

A prize for anyone who can tell me what that means. These idiots are just making stuff up to justify their positions as pundits. I'm thinking of opening a book on the new cliches that will be invented this year or imported from other sports to add to red zones and gain lines and even the novel concept of offside in Gaelic football, introduced last year by McStay. Shots under par anyone, or new balls, or maybe overuse of the whip. They'd make as much sense as "support angles" anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on June 03, 2012, 02:48:47 PM
The coverage is a disgrace, you'd nearly think they were trying to put people of football. The entire previeews and analysis focus on the state of football and not the match in hand for every game. I thought the first half was good given the conditions. Some great scores and quite open. Kavanagh was excellent. Spilllanes first comment was it was very avg and brolly said typical modern football. Turned it over after that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on June 03, 2012, 02:50:42 PM
The gaa need to step in quick and put an end to this unbalanced coverage. These pricks are only in it for self gain.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 02:53:53 PM
Brolly is sitting there like a lad that's just finished his dessert at a wedding.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 02:54:13 PM
They're at it again - "135 handpasses" yadda yadda.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cogito on June 03, 2012, 02:56:36 PM
It's a joke, Im sitting at home here and really enjoying this game.

How we don't have players on who have played more recently I just don't know. Stephen McDonnell, Philip Jordan are just two that come to mind.

Would sky sports have jack charlton on doing their analyis? No, they went out and found Gary Neville because he is familiar with the modern day game and can criticise and praise it on how he sees it.

RTE's pannellists criticise it because they dont truly understand it. It's ignorance and they try to feel like their days were much better.

Ah here we go again, he is on about handpasses v kicks again.

That's it. Tele is on mute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
If Longford come out and start booting the ball into the teeth of that wind and giving the ball away left right and centre will Spillane and co. laud them for their sense of adventure?
No, it'll be "errors", "poor kick-passing" etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Do you know what?
I bet Pat Spillane is shaking his head at the fact that a wing-back has scored 5 points from play.
This is a negative development in his view.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 03:05:24 PM
Gwan da Larries!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 03, 2012, 03:18:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Do you know what?
I bet Pat Spillane is shaking his head at the fact that a wing-back has scored 5 points from play.
This is a negative development in his view.

it was pure mule jinxy the first half. pure mule.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ardchieftain on June 03, 2012, 03:39:16 PM
Longford threw that away. Ironic that they played better when wiped out at midfield in the 1st half.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Do you know what?
I bet Pat Spillane is shaking his head at the fact that a wing-back has scored 5 points from play.
This is a negative development in his view.

Bingo - the Wexford forwards are no good - their backs scored more.

Again, the whole analysis is completely negative. I'm serious - not one positive point made. Not one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 03, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
any chance brolly would stop talking oer the top of spillane, downright bad manners, pat hard to understand at the best of times but with brolly harping over him its downright impossible!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
It's just such a joyless, depressing experience watching gaelic football on RTE.
You've the double whammy of commentators that make you want to throw your telly off a bridge and analysts that don't analyse the game.
It's like they WANT people to stop watching.
I think Ryle Nugent sits in an office looking at the viewing figures for the Sunday Game and thinks to himself, "Why isn't this working? We've Ger and Martin on commentary, Brolly and Spillane spouting bile non-stop and people are STILL watching in huge numbers. We're going to have to step it up next week. Maybe we can get Jedward to do the sideline reports...."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: spuds on June 03, 2012, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 03:03:56 PM
Do you know what?
I bet Pat Spillane is shaking his head at the fact that a wing-back has scored 5 points from play.
This is a negative development in his view.

Bingo - the Wexford forwards are no good - their backs scored more.

Again, the whole analysis is completely negative. I'm serious - not one positive point made. Not one.
Ger Canning was on about "honesty of endeavour" after Brian Kavanagh picked the ball clean off the ground. Another beaut was after Ben Brosnan pointed a free Canning excites how scoring it shows his commitment, what does that mean ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 03:55:50 PM
Same shit, different year....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 03, 2012, 04:24:38 PM
Ah stop bitching girls - isn't it priceless entertainment !
Pat Spillane looking himself up on Wikipedia to check what he scored in his career  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 06:17:31 PM
Switching from RTE to TV3 today was like walking out of an elderly relatives funeral and into a 21st birthday party.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 06:33:21 PM
McStay will have his dossier with him no doubt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 03, 2012, 07:05:20 PM
The tossier with the dossier.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 03, 2012, 07:58:25 PM
rte have mc stay..............tv3 have liam hayes............................bring back David Brady
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
Louth should have won a provincial title as recently as 2010.
RTE are really getting on my f**king nerves at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
When Dublin minced Tyrone last year did anyone suggest a tiered championship?
What about when Limerick destroyed us a few years ago?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac hinery on June 03, 2012, 10:05:12 PM
Where's Brick Tamlin when you need him?


"I don't know why I'm shouting"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 03, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
simple solution lads, if a match starts at 2.00, turn the TV on at 1.59. watch 1st half. At HT, go and boil the kettle, have a crap, ride the wife, (then do them all again as you probably will still have time). watch 2nd half, that at FT, turn it off.simples.

Why do you watch and listen to men who you know are going to talk shite, then complain about them talking shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2012, 10:12:45 PM
Absolute nonsense and it's that attitude that has this country fcuked.
Just accept this is the way things are, and don't expect any better.
It's your money that's paying for this tripe.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whitegoodman on June 03, 2012, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 03, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
simple solution lads, if a match starts at 2.00, turn the TV on at 1.59. watch 1st half. At HT, go and boil the kettle, have a crap, ride the wife, (then do them all again as you probably will still have time). watch 2nd half, that at FT, turn it off.simples.

Why do you watch and listen to men who you know are going to talk shite, then complain about them talking shite.

Lol very good and very true especially on the point about the exploits at half time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 04, 2012, 09:32:04 AM
Peopl are becoming more critical of Gaelic football to the point where many supporters don't bother going to matches the tv guys started this rubbish. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2012, 10:34:22 AM
The amount of people I hear parroting the exact same stuff as Spillane is scary.
That's simply the result of constant repetition.
Plus, I think Brolly and Spillane will become more of a double act over the summer as this increases the potential for controversy.
Colm will be shifted to the evening show to accommodate this as he's a moderating influence on the two of them.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on June 04, 2012, 10:37:13 AM
Canning makes Mark Sidebottom seem almost eloquent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cogito on June 04, 2012, 10:45:11 AM
Is it that hard to find a few intelligent and recently retired players? A bit of research woudl teach you who knows there stuff and who doesn't. People who can actually give me a bit of insight into the game instead of every game getting a freeze frame and saying "Look they have 11 players back in their own half". Could someone not show me how quick teams break once they get the turn over? It's not as if Longford had 11 players sitting back all the time. Longford also used the cross field ball very well to find McCormack and Cavanagh well. I'm pretty sure that was ignored as well.

RTE need to make it an important goal to uncover a Gary Neville sort of expert to revitalize their panel if you ask me. I watched the Longford and Wex game and was annoyed at the coverage. Pat was a miserable old git who had an agenda set beforehand.

I missed the start of the Sunday game in then evening then but when I did switch it on the very first thing I heard was Colm Coyle giving out about the number of handpasses to kickpasses in a game. I literally tutted out loud before saying to myself I couldn't be bothered listening to this crap again so I switched over and watched the Apprentice. A show I have not once all year and this was the final. That's how much I wasn't arsed listening to the RTE boys.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on June 04, 2012, 10:56:56 AM
its been my opinion for a long time that these guys are doing little good for our game by constantly slagging off teams who arent up to their so called perceived standard.
It always this way. Teams go through bad times we dont all have a conveyor belt like Kerry.
The likes of Brolly and Spillane are supposed to be ambassadors for our game but i feel they are doing it more harm than good.
Yes the game is going through a tough time as more professional approaches have led to players being fitter than most other sportsmen and tactics coming more and more into it. Brolly and Spillane should be suggesting how to make changes for the good of the game.
This tiered suggestion wont work either. With Tiers Leitrim would never have played in an all ireland semi in 94, Down wouldnt have been in the All Ireland final in 2010 Antrim or Fermanagh wouldnt have played in Ulster Finals, Clare wouldnt have won a munster in the 90's , the list is endless. 25 years of defeat in every first round game is worth it for counties to even get one day in the sun.
I for one never want to see the end of the Ulster Championship.
A champs league format would only make everything more predictable and  crowds would suffer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
I know I'm biased but Anthony Moyles was excellent on Newstalk for Longford vs. Wexford.
There are lots of intelligent, articulate, recently retired footballers that could offer meaningful analysis and insight.
Is that what RTE want though?
I genuinely don't think it is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cogito on June 04, 2012, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 04, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
I know I'm biased but Anthony Moyles was excellent on Newstalk for Longford vs. Wexford.
There are lots of intelligent, articulate, recently retired footballers that could offer meaningful analysis and insight.
Is that what RTE want though?
I genuinely don't think it is.

Aye Moyles was one I heard recently and I just thought to myself, why the hell dont RTE have someone like him. I would love to see Philip Jordan given a shot at it or Stephen McDonnell.

The service Newstalk provide puts RTE to shame in my opinion.

I don't care if a player doesn't have as many All-Ireland's as Spillane I would someone who can analyse a game, see patterns that others cant and highlight them to the every day viewer. Make our game sound interesting rather than tell them its shite.

That process of freezing the screen when a team has 10 or 11 bodies back makes me want to break my tele. It's so lazy. Every analyse of a game is basically the same and I for one have had it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
Actually Ger Gilroy has some still pictures on his twitter page of the Donegal vs. Kildare game last year.
They're from the first half and show that on numerous occasions there were at least half a dozen Donegal players inside the Kildare 45m line.
Modern teams get bodies back, but they also attack in numbers as well.
The problem is, Spillane's 'analysis' is setting the agenda and this has to be addressed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2012, 12:02:10 PM
Brolly and Spillane do talk a lot of crap for the sake of it but I have to agree with them on the Longford v Wexford game. It was total shite from start to finish. Donegal have shown teams the way to play now packing everyone back in their own halves. I said last year the GAA need to take steps to stop this crap becoming the norm for GAA matches and now we will all see how it will pan out with more and more teams doing the same. It will turn the likes of me off bothering  to watch a game on TV where my own county is not involved. If entertainment levels go down, viewership will go down and money into the GAA will go down which is bad for every county.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 04, 2012, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2012, 12:02:10 PM
Brolly and Spillane do talk a lot of crap for the sake of it but I have to agree with them on the Longford v Wexford game. It was total shite from start to finish. Donegal have shown teams the way to play now packing everyone back in their own halves. I said last year the GAA need to take steps to stop this crap becoming the norm for GAA matches and now we will all see how it will pan out with more and more teams doing the same. It will turn the likes of me off bothering  to watch a game on TV where my own county is not involved. If entertainment levels go down, viewership will go down and money into the GAA will go down which is bad for every county.

Longford made it shite though. I was massively impressed with their conditioning and staggered by their lack of ambition. They would get a lot further using the assets they have in the bardens.

David Barden looked like a tool yesterday with his man scoring 5 points from play. Its a complete waste having him in defence.

That was Donegal-lite yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on June 04, 2012, 12:27:54 PM
Quote from: cogito on June 04, 2012, 10:45:11 AM
RTE need to make it an important goal to uncover a Gary Neville sort of expert to revitalize their panel if you ask me. I watched the Longford and Wex game and was annoyed at the coverage. Pat was a miserable old git who had an agenda set beforehand.

They had, or have one.... Dara Ó Cinnéide... yet they never seem to have him on during the day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on June 04, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: cogito on June 04, 2012, 11:13:50 AM
That process of freezing the screen when a team has 10 or 11 bodies back makes me want to break my tele. It's so lazy. Every analyse of a game is basically the same and I for one have had it.

10 or 11 isn't too bad. goalie, 6 backs, 2 midfielders and a couple of half forwards...


Its when its 13 or 14 men back that I get pissed!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2012, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 04, 2012, 12:02:10 PM
Brolly and Spillane do talk a lot of crap for the sake of it but I have to agree with them on the Longford v Wexford game. It was total shite from start to finish. Donegal have shown teams the way to play now packing everyone back in their own halves. I said last year the GAA need to take steps to stop this crap becoming the norm for GAA matches and now we will all see how it will pan out with more and more teams doing the same. It will turn the likes of me off bothering  to watch a game on TV where my own county is not involved. If entertainment levels go down, viewership will go down and money into the GAA will go down which is bad for every county.

If you had watched that exact same game only it was played in Pearse Park Myles do you think your opinion would be any different?
To be honest I think you could take the best 30 footballers in the country, stick them in an empty Croke Park, and they'd struggle to entertain TV viewers.
That's a separate issue though I suppose.
I thought there was some great scores kicked in difficult conditions yesterday.
And lets not forget that either, it was a truly horrible day and we were watching two division 3 teams.
Have there been many classic games between Longford and Wexford down through the years?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 04, 2012, 04:01:33 PM
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I am actually disappointed if either Brolly or Spillane aren't on the Sunday game. Its a bit like watching the soccer on RTE without Dunphy its just not the same, and very often the best entertainment is reserved for the analysis.

O'Cinneide and O'Rourke are good pundits but most of the rest of them aren't worth listening to. Davis and McStay are a joke neither entertaining nor insightful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: fearglasmor on June 05, 2012, 03:15:46 PM
Watched Offaly Wexford and Longford Wexford games on the box.

Liam Sheedy made a single reference to the standard of the fare and both him and Eddie Brennan proceeded to review the game on its own merits without referincing Kiklenny or Tipp.

In contrast all Spillane can offer is bile about how shite the standard is. If thats the attitude why would anyone ever bother broadcasting or watching games involving anyone outside the top 6 counties. I think Spillane has finally morphed into Victor Meldrew.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on June 05, 2012, 05:20:03 PM
Watch the Kevin Nolan point from last  year's AIF and count the number of Kerry lads the ball sailed over . Some amount of them back  defending and Lord help us if that had been a Kerry point scored against us, Tyrone, Donegal or Kildare for example



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 05, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
On sunday it seemed to me they got paid to talk about medicine balls and bollards. Pat spillane thought there were thousands of them bollards on the pitch, oh how times have changed sighed brolly he remembers training when they used to have to carry 4 inch blocks around the field nae a bother to big Brian but some wee lad couldn't carry them at all . Tis a pity big brian didn't drop 1 of the blocks on wee joe's head he would have done us all a huge favour.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redcard on June 05, 2012, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.

Spillane wouldnt have looked out on place on last saturdays Late Late show and sober at that. Why dont you pen him a letter shamrock
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NaomhBridAbú on June 05, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
"And its hard to regard Joe Brolly's attack on the Dromid man on last weeks Sunday Game as anything other than gratuitously silly attention seeking from a television troll who in commenting on the football championship generally adopts the attitude of an aristocrat forced to shake hands with a beggar."

from the Sunday Indo following Golum's comment on the Kerry Manager....best description of Brolly that I have ever heard...'...an aristocrat forced to shake hands with a beggar'

thats Brolly 100%....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 05, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.

Last year, Spillane gave out about the way Wexford played against the Dublin! Saying they were too negative. But this was the only way they could stay with the Dubs. Louth played open football last week and see what happened to them.  Jez, I don't think alot of these guys know how hard it is for weaker counties to move to the next level and when they get to that level to stay there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Go home ref on June 06, 2012, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 05, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.

Last year, Spillane gave out about the way Wexford played against the Dublin! Saying they were too negative. But this was the only way they could stay with the Dubs. Louth played open football last week and see what happened to them.  Jez, I don't think alot of these guys know how hard it is for weaker counties to move to the next level and when they get to that level to stay there.

I know what a clown he wants teams to go out and play attacking football against teams that are far better than them and im sure if all lesser teams did this he would complain about uncompetitive matches
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on June 05, 2012, 05:27:15 PM
On sunday it seemed to me they got paid to talk about medicine balls and bollards. Pat spillane thought there were thousands of them bollards on the pitch, oh how times have changed sighed brolly he remembers training when they used to have to carry 4 inch blocks around the field nae a bother to big Brian but some wee lad couldn't carry them at all . Tis a pity big brian didn't drop 1 of the blocks on wee joe's head he would have done us all a huge favour.

Haha, my own thoughts exactly!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 10, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
Wall to wall negativity from the Nualas again today. The emphasis is on why Kerry lost, not why Cork won. Not a positive soundbite forthcoming in the whole analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 10, 2012, 03:56:45 PM
How true Hardy!! It wasn't a game for the ages but there was plent positive things to talk about yet all they did was moan and shite talk about the hand pass. If I could afford a new flat screen TV I'd have put my foot through the current one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 10, 2012, 03:57:17 PM
Plus Michael Lyster spoiled the Meath v Carlow result.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 10, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
Tony fcking Davis, I might have to switch to BBC
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 10, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 10, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
Tony fcking Davis, I might have to switch to BBC

Yup! Much and all as I like Daragh Maloney, can they please not give Davis the Bullet!

Mind you, Mark Sidebottom is some eejit, asking Mc Conville "What price the draw"!!!  ::)
Oisin was cute enough to sidestep the question
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 10, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
Finally, the girls wax positive. "It's a good game of football".

("Not a traditional Ulster type of game.")  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on June 10, 2012, 07:50:17 PM
Is the draw for the qualifiers on tonight?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NaomhBridAbú on June 10, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 10, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 10, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
Tony fcking Davis, I might have to switch to BBC

Yup! Much and all as I like Daragh Maloney, can they please not give Davis the Bullet!

Mind you, Mark Sidebottom is some eejit, asking Mc Conville "What price the draw"!!!  ::)
Oisin was cute enough to sidestep the question

No f**king way??? Please tell me that sidebottom did not ask Oisin that??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on June 10, 2012, 11:32:07 PM
leighton glynn has a strange accent, is that how wicklow people talk? any i ever met just sounded like southside dubs, which they are i guess
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Louth Exile on June 11, 2012, 12:07:57 AM
Quote from: NaomhBridAbú on June 10, 2012, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: Louth Exile on June 10, 2012, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 10, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
Tony fcking Davis, I might have to switch to BBC

Yup! Much and all as I like Daragh Maloney, can they please not give Davis the Bullet!

Mind you, Mark Sidebottom is some eejit, asking Mc Conville "What price the draw"!!!  ::)
Oisin was cute enough to sidestep the question

No f**king way??? Please tell me that sidebottom did not ask Oisin that??

No word of lie, he's some gobshite

The evening show of the SG was the usual auld showing highlights of the games we have already seen while we get about 2 mins of clips from the two games in Tullamore and other Munster semi final. Will they ever learn?!?!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on June 11, 2012, 12:22:47 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.

So a team that reaches an AI semi and a league final in 8 months is second tier and ranked with Laois. To bed with yourself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stevie g 8 on June 11, 2012, 12:34:19 AM
Not a clue has des Cahill telling us that seanie Johnston can now play for Kildare next week  when he played a league game today for his new club when the country all know it has to be a championship game before he's eligible .how do the likes of himself and Marty get these top presenting jobs
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 11, 2012, 02:15:56 AM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2012, 12:22:47 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.

So a team that reaches an AI semi and a league final in 8 months is second tier and ranked with Laois. To bed with yourself.
Do you think Mayo are at top tier? takes more than just eight months football to reach that level.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 11, 2012, 03:52:04 AM
Not to feed into the Obvious trolling, but today confirmed that Kerry are, right now, behind Cork, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo. I'd seriously fancy Donegal and Kildare to take them too.

Maybe they'll go on a repeat of 2009's run but I highly doubt that's at all likely. It feels a bit like Tyrone last year, you just know this'll be the last run-around for plenty of the cornerstones of this Kerry team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: fearglasmor on June 11, 2012, 09:09:00 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 10, 2012, 11:32:07 PM
leighton glynn has a strange accent, is that how wicklow people talk? any i ever met just sounded like southside dubs, which they are i guess

Get yourself a dvd of the TV Series Bracken or even Glenroe and have a listen to Dinny Byrne.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 11, 2012, 09:11:37 AM
I made the mistake of not watering the flowers at half time in the Kerry game yesterday, and stupidly listened to the half time anal-ysis. Joe Brolly needs to be taken off that job now. He contributes nothing and his insulting of lads who have all Ireland medals coming out their pockets is a disgrace. He;s not fit to lace some of their boots, yet he feels it is appropriate to call Darren O'Sullivan a selfish under 10? Gobshite. Darren O'Sullivan's pacy runs are a ploy Kerry deliberately use you eejit, and if Donaghy had rattled the net then one of those runs would have been responsible for a goal. To say he runs because he is selfish and doesn't want to pass until he runs into someone's "knee-literaly" is absolutely stupid analysis.

Then they pick 3 clips of Kerry lads soloing the ball as evidence that they don't look up, ignoring the long balls kicked into Kieran O'Leary and Gooch and Donaghy that scores came from. It's as if they have a pre-determined rant they want to go on, and then spend the entire half/game looking for examples that support their argument, ignoring anything that contradicts their prejudice.

Also, when you pick up a break, your first instinct is to secure possession, then a solo coming out of the pack, and then you look up. All of the Kerry lads they picked out did exactly that. Joe would have you believe they should win the ball and take their first solo, under pressure, while scanning the field for options. Crazy stuff altogether.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 11, 2012, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2012, 03:52:04 AM
Not to feed into the Obvious trolling, but today confirmed that Kerry are, right now, behind Cork, Dublin, Tyrone and Mayo. I'd seriously fancy Donegal and Kildare to take them too.

Maybe they'll go on a repeat of 2009's run but I highly doubt that's at all likely. It feels a bit like Tyrone last year, you just know this'll be the last run-around for plenty of the cornerstones of this Kerry team.

I don't necessarily agree. If Sheehan was playing yesterday he would have got at least 3 or 4 points from frees/45's that Kerry missed. Add in the amazing missed goal chances and Kerry could easily have won that match handsomely and we'd all be talking about the end of this Cork team! Kerry do have problems but they're not insurmountable. I'd be amazed if they don't make the semis, bar drawing Cork or Dublin in the quarters.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 11, 2012, 09:16:11 AM
Also, that is not to come across as a defense about Kerry, they were well off the pace they needed yesterday, and Cork deserved the win. If Cork get all their forwards back in harness they will be the team to beat I think. The Cork backs were shaky enough at times, especially when they were run at (Joe!), and I get the feeling that if Kerry play Cork in Croker later in the year, the likes of Declan O'Sullivan will not be allowed that much freedom on the ball to solo at them.

This felt to me like a phoney war, as many Cork-Kerry games have been in Munster in the last few years, as both teams have a couple of gears to find I think.

I wouldn't write off Kerry just yet, and I'm not sure they need to be 'reinvented' as such, they just need to increase their intensity. That game was a mile off the intensity of the Armagh-Tyrone game, but we know Kerry and Cork can raise the intensity from there.

Also, not sure who mentioned about Brian Sheehan not being worth at least 4 or 5 points because he's not the only one that can take them, well I think that was proven yesterday. I'd have backed Sheehan to score at least 3 out of the 4 chances from distance that Kerry had, and I think the only score from a longish free they got was when Gooch went short to Declan Sullivan.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on June 11, 2012, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 10, 2012, 11:32:07 PM
leighton glynn has a strange accent, is that how wicklow people talk? any i ever met just sounded like southside dubs, which they are i guess

He has a seriously strong Wicklow accent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haze on June 11, 2012, 09:27:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 11, 2012, 09:11:37 AM
I made the mistake of not watering the flowers at half time in the Kerry game yesterday, and stupidly listened to the half time anal-ysis. Joe Brolly needs to be taken off that job now. He contributes nothing and his insulting of lads who have all Ireland medals coming out their pockets is a disgrace. He;s not fit to lace some of their boots, yet he feels it is appropriate to call Darren O'Sullivan a selfish under 10? Gobshite. Darren O'Sullivan's pacy runs are a ploy Kerry deliberately use you eejit, and if Donaghy had rattled the net then one of those runs would have been responsible for a goal. To say he runs because he is selfish and doesn't want to pass until he runs into someone's "knee-literaly" is absolutely stupid analysis.

Then they pick 3 clips of Kerry lads soloing the ball as evidence that they don't look up, ignoring the long balls kicked into Kieran O'Leary and Gooch and Donaghy that scores came from. It's as if they have a pre-determined rant they want to go on, and then spend the entire half/game looking for examples that support their argument, ignoring anything that contradicts their prejudice.

Also, when you pick up a break, your first instinct is to secure possession, then a solo coming out of the pack, and then you look up. All of the Kerry lads they picked out did exactly that. Joe would have you believe they should win the ball and take their first solo, under pressure, while scanning the field for options. Crazy stuff altogether.

What annoys me the most is the total lack of balance in their analysis. I dont think anyone would mind if they raised legitimate points about Kerry's poor display in the first half IF they could also draw the attention of the viewer to, as you said, the excellent foot passes that did lead to scores. It is so infuriating.

Or before the match they predictably showed outdated clips of how Cork build slowly and often laterally from the back.. From casually watching Cork this year in the league it appeared to me that they were playing a much more direct game than usual. But it didnt suit the agenda of the Sunday game pundits who are paid to do this to show any clips of this.

One last point - if one more pundit, commentator co-commentator bangs on about a how a high ball into the full forward is as a direct result of the new square ball rule i am going to sound mute the tv.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 11, 2012, 09:41:32 AM
The long passes did lead to scores, which they ignored, but also all 3 of the Kerry goal chances came as a direct result of Declan O'Sullivan and Darren O'Sullivan running at the heart of the Cork defence, drawing a man and giving the ball off. It's a very effective attacking ploy they have used numerous times.

If Gooch x 2 and Donaghy had rattle the twines, Kerry could have been 6-9 points up at half time and the guys would be picking on some Cork supposed failing that they had pre-prepared. Guaranteed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on June 11, 2012, 09:46:55 AM
These pundits seem to think their mission is to shape how the game is played by badgering managers and teams. They have totally given up on analyzing a game or providing any insight. I can't recall the last time I heard any of them say anything not blatantly obvious. They blather on about kicking the ball and how Crossmaglen are the new pioneers and visionaries of the game. All their ranting a raving seems to come down to the following 'they think someone in corner back should kick the ball 40 yards'. When you boil it down, that's it. In fairness Cross are one of the few teams you see doing this and are a joy to watch as a result. But just say that and move on for christ sake. It's ego mania to go on a crusade of being a saviour of the game, getting paid a few grand every sunday to talk shite, and slating amateur players in the process. To pick on Darren O'Sullivan shows just how stupid they are. He is used in two ways: 1) as one of the paciest runners in the game to take people on and create mayhem (much like what Brolly himself based his game on albeit vastly inferior at same) 2) as one of the best players at delivering long diagonal ball. How often have you seen him launch a 50 yard pass to perfection into Donaghy? Countless times over the years. It has to be used sparingly though else it becomes predictable. Anyway, these pundits are an embarrassment...rant over.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 11, 2012, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 11, 2012, 09:41:32 AM
The long passes did lead to scores, which they ignored, but also all 3 of the Kerry goal chances came as a direct result of Declan O'Sullivan and Darren O'Sullivan running at the heart of the Cork defence, drawing a man and giving the ball off. It's a very effective attacking ploy they have used numerous times.

If Gooch x 2 and Donaghy had rattle the twines, Kerry could have been 6-9 points up at half time and the guys would be picking on some Cork supposed failing that they had pre-prepared. Guaranteed.

No doubt. And O'Connor would have been the best thing since bread was sliced and praised for reinventing the team again.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on June 11, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
What annoys me is that not one of these pundits has put their theories to the test by managing an inter-county team.
Would love to see what would happen if Pat Spillane took over a county, banned gym work and had the lads playing backs and forwards in training.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 11, 2012, 11:32:13 AM
Quote from: sheamy on June 11, 2012, 09:46:55 AM
These pundits seem to think their mission is to shape how the game is played by badgering managers and teams. They have totally given up on analyzing a game or providing any insight. I can't recall the last time I heard any of them say anything not blatantly obvious. They blather on about kicking the ball and how Crossmaglen are the new pioneers and visionaries of the game. All their ranting a raving seems to come down to the following 'they think someone in corner back should kick the ball 40 yards'. When you boil it down, that's it. In fairness Cross are one of the few teams you see doing this and are a joy to watch as a result. But just say that and move on for christ sake. It's ego mania to go on a crusade of being a saviour of the game, getting paid a few grand every sunday to talk shite, and slating amateur players in the process. To pick on Darren O'Sullivan shows just how stupid they are. He is used in two ways: 1) as one of the paciest runners in the game to take people on and create mayhem (much like what Brolly himself based his game on albeit vastly inferior at same) 2) as one of the best players at delivering long diagonal ball. How often have you seen him launch a 50 yard pass to perfection into Donaghy? Countless times over the years. It has to be used sparingly though else it becomes predictable. Anyway, these pundits are an embarrassment...rant over.
How much is a few? 2,3,4...? Not a bit of wonder they don't manage teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 11, 2012, 11:46:28 AM
This show has now become an appalling embarassment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 11, 2012, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2012, 11:46:28 AM
This show has now become an appalling embarassment.

Which we all watch.

But I suppose then a lot of people watch Coronation Street, Eastenders etc.

Bring back Tohill.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on June 11, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
didn't big anto tohill get the deadner for speaking out of line one day? he was turning into a good pundit too, took him a few years to warm up. For some reason i don't mind mcstay, bit of a spoofer but he's grand.

Everything that is said about brolly and spillane is true, in fact i never listen to them now, brutal. I like the guys on BBC, but even marty mchugh, a smart football man im sure, is prone to making wild sweeping statements and bullshit analysis.

RTE have some great men for the hurling, and eddie brennan has been a good addition this year, smart talker and no bullshit. Surely we must have some good football men? Kevin cassidy is good whenever he's on TG4

Finally, armagh and john kingham yesterday showed that spillane's 'long ball into the full forward line' is clearly not always the best answer, unless you have both a suitable target man and quality ball going in. Didn't work for big kingham yesterday, but hopefully he'l keep working at it and could well be a useful option
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on June 11, 2012, 07:59:59 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 10, 2012, 11:32:07 PM
leighton glynn has a strange accent, is that how wicklow people talk? any i ever met just sounded like southside dubs, which they are i guess

Thats why i came on the Board--to talk about it--weird accent--was wondering if that was a typical Wicklow accent.

The lesser spotted Wicklow Accent
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 11, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 11, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
didn't big anto tohill get the deadner for speaking out of line one day? he was turning into a good pundit too, took him a few years to warm up. For some reason i don't mind mcstay, bit of a spoofer but he's grand.

Everything that is said about brolly and spillane is true, in fact i never listen to them now, brutal. I like the guys on BBC, but even marty mchugh, a smart football man im sure, is prone to making wild sweeping statements and bullshit analysis.

RTE have some great men for the hurling, and eddie brennan has been a good addition this year, smart talker and no bullshit. Surely we must have some good football men? Kevin cassidy is good whenever he's on TG4

Finally, armagh and john kingham yesterday showed that spillane's 'long ball into the full forward line' is clearly not always the best answer, unless you have both a suitable target man and quality ball going in. Didn't work for big kingham yesterday, but hopefully he'l keep working at it and could well be a useful option

Anything Martin McHugh says that makes sense is undone by his blatant anti Derry bias that shines gloriously through in all his columns and commentary for the BBC. He's a mouth!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2012, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2012, 12:22:47 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 05, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
Spillane and Brolly are too fond of the quip. The 'smart one'.

FFS - I dunno about Wexford but did Spillane expect Longford to play like Brazil of 1970. We've come from a position of being third last in Div 4 three or so year ago (just ahead of London and Kilkenny) to a Div 2 spot and not mixing it with the second tier teams like Laois, Mayo etc. His comment on medicine balls and cones were daft and if this is analysis then fcuk me pink.

So a team that reaches an AI semi and a league final in 8 months is second tier and ranked with Laois. To bed with yourself.
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A bit touchy there, Moysider.
Mayo are still a work in progress.  They are a year ahead of Galway  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 11, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 11, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
didn't big anto tohill get the deadner for speaking out of line one day? he was turning into a good pundit too, took him a few years to warm up. For some reason i don't mind mcstay, bit of a spoofer but he's grand.

Everything that is said about brolly and spillane is true, in fact i never listen to them now, brutal. I like the guys on BBC, but even marty mchugh, a smart football man im sure, is prone to making wild sweeping statements and bullshit analysis.

RTE have some great men for the hurling, and eddie brennan has been a good addition this year, smart talker and no bullshit. Surely we must have some good football men? Kevin cassidy is good whenever he's on TG4

Finally, armagh and john kingham yesterday showed that spillane's 'long ball into the full forward line' is clearly not always the best answer, unless you have both a suitable target man and quality ball going in. Didn't work for big kingham yesterday, but hopefully he'l keep working at it and could well be a useful option

Anything Martin McHugh says that makes sense is undone by his blatant anti Derry bias that shines gloriously through in all his columns and commentary for the BBC. He's a mouth!

mus have Draperstown blood in him somewhere 1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 12, 2012, 12:34:13 AM
Quotewas wondering if that was a typical Wicklow accent.

That's your real Wicklow accent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on June 12, 2012, 03:16:24 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 11, 2012, 09:11:37 AM
I made the mistake of not watering the flowers at half time in the Kerry game yesterday, and stupidly listened to the half time anal-ysis. Joe Brolly needs to be taken off that job now. He contributes nothing and his insulting of lads who have all Ireland medals coming out their pockets is a disgrace. He;s not fit to lace some of their boots, yet he feels it is appropriate to call Darren O'Sullivan a selfish under 10? Gobshite. Darren O'Sullivan's pacy runs are a ploy Kerry deliberately use you eejit, and if Donaghy had rattled the net then one of those runs would have been responsible for a goal. To say he runs because he is selfish and doesn't want to pass until he runs into someone's "knee-literaly" is absolutely stupid analysis.

Then they pick 3 clips of Kerry lads soloing the ball as evidence that they don't look up, ignoring the long balls kicked into Kieran O'Leary and Gooch and Donaghy that scores came from. It's as if they have a pre-determined rant they want to go on, and then spend the entire half/game looking for examples that support their argument, ignoring anything that contradicts their prejudice.

Also, when you pick up a break, your first instinct is to secure possession, then a solo coming out of the pack, and then you look up. All of the Kerry lads they picked out did exactly that. Joe would have you believe they should win the ball and take their first solo, under pressure, while scanning the field for options. Crazy stuff altogether.

Good post AZ. I agree with all of that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 12, 2012, 09:35:44 AM
Im no lover of Kerry football but men like Darren O Sullivan deserve more respect from pundits than that. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 12, 2012, 10:40:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 11, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 11, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 11, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
didn't big anto tohill get the deadner for speaking out of line one day? he was turning into a good pundit too, took him a few years to warm up. For some reason i don't mind mcstay, bit of a spoofer but he's grand.

Everything that is said about brolly and spillane is true, in fact i never listen to them now, brutal. I like the guys on BBC, but even marty mchugh, a smart football man im sure, is prone to making wild sweeping statements and bullshit analysis.

RTE have some great men for the hurling, and eddie brennan has been a good addition this year, smart talker and no bullshit. Surely we must have some good football men? Kevin cassidy is good whenever he's on TG4

Finally, armagh and john kingham yesterday showed that spillane's 'long ball into the full forward line' is clearly not always the best answer, unless you have both a suitable target man and quality ball going in. Didn't work for big kingham yesterday, but hopefully he'l keep working at it and could well be a useful option

Anything Martin McHugh says that makes sense is undone by his blatant anti Derry bias that shines gloriously through in all his columns and commentary for the BBC. He's a mouth!

mus have Draperstown blood in him somewhere 1

tfal?? lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 13, 2012, 08:07:53 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on June 11, 2012, 06:54:50 PM
didn't big anto tohill get the deadner for speaking out of line one day?

No.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
What purpose does it serve to show Davy Fitz swearing, seriously you'd wonder have the people complaining ever been involved in sport when emotions are high and intense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: here comes 6 on June 17, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
Des Cahill is the biggest mistake the Sunday game has ever made
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2012, 11:16:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
What purpose does it serve to show Davy Fitz swearing, seriously you'd wonder have the people complaining ever been involved in sport when emotions are high and intense.

Yeah, jez that's sport! Show us your medals and all that. In the heat of the moment, you'll say and often do anything. It was caught on Telly, that's the difference.

Quote from: here comes 6 on June 17, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
Des Cahill is the biggest mistake the Sunday game has ever made


Yeah, should stick to the day job with Pat Kenny!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 17, 2012, 11:16:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
What purpose does it serve to show Davy Fitz swearing, seriously you'd wonder have the people complaining ever been involved in sport when emotions are high and intense.

Yeah, jez that's sport! Show us your medals and all that. In the heat of the moment, you'll say and often do anything. It was caught on Telly, that's the difference.


Classic moment in fairness but hardly worth analysis, Eddie Brennan got a good kick out probably thinking my 8 beats 2.

Davy Fitz and Eoin Kelly exchange pleasantries (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UY-jxdbxn0&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
Also it was nice of Pat Spillane to give Alan Mulhall credit for some great saves today, superb goalie and Offaly's best player today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on June 17, 2012, 11:40:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
What purpose does it serve to show Davy Fitz swearing, seriously you'd wonder have the people complaining ever been involved in sport when emotions are high and intense.

You'd hear worse at an u14 match. The Sunday Game really is tabloid tv these days. All sensationalist bullshit and hyperbole. I think most people would prefer to watch proper extended highlights instead of all this "expert analysis."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2012, 11:41:39 PM
Spillane on speed tonight, Poor Whelan left as a spectator on the show.  ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2012, 12:09:13 AM
After Spillane hype up Donegal tonight i expect them to flop now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadence on June 18, 2012, 09:28:28 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2012, 12:09:13 AM
After Spillane hype up Donegal tonight i expect them to flop now.

his response to how we play football, was untenable in the long run. a climb down for him, but that was inevitable i reckon. wish he would still slag us off though. he's just a silly. like a jeremy clarkson that commentates on gaa.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on June 18, 2012, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
What purpose does it serve to show Davy Fitz swearing, seriously you'd wonder have the people complaining ever been involved in sport when emotions are high and intense.

It was car crash tv. You could even see how uncomfortable Cahill was raising it, not to mention the panel discussing it.

'Ah look now,...'
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 18, 2012, 10:33:47 AM
Quote from: sheamy on June 18, 2012, 09:33:46 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 17, 2012, 10:47:41 PM
What purpose does it serve to show Davy Fitz swearing, seriously you'd wonder have the people complaining ever been involved in sport when emotions are high and intense.

It was car crash tv. You could even see how uncomfortable Cahill was raising it, not to mention the panel discussing it.

'Ah look now,...'

I was laughing at Eddie laughing in the background. Surprised, yet not in the least surprised, that they aired the clip.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on June 18, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
It would be interesting to see if TV3 were to have a similar highlights show on at the same time. If TV3 could keep up the quality of analysis they they have for their live broadcasts it would be strong competition.

I wonder how RTE would react.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 18, 2012, 05:17:07 PM
The Sunday Game has gone down the tubes. Des Cathal is a bumbling bafoon and a really poor presenter. As for Spillane last night, I usually enjoy his oul nonsence but last night he annoyed me. Now he has Donegal in as 3rd best team in the country after taking lumps out of them last year. I personally detest the new era of defensive football and at least Pat was consistant in his criticism it. Now he jumps on the bandwagon. He just says anything to be controversial, doesnt matter if it's accurate. A typical hindsight pundit - zero foresight! That's why he's on a couch and not on the sidelines!

The day time show with Michael Leister is much better. The night time version is becoming cheap and tacky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 18, 2012, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: here comes 6 on June 17, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
Des Cahill is the biggest mistake the Sunday game has ever made

Yes and that's saying something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2012, 05:31:35 PM
Quote from: ck on June 18, 2012, 05:17:07 PM
The Sunday Game has gone down the tubes. Des Cathal is a bumbling bafoon and a really poor presenter. As for Spillane last night, I usually enjoy his oul nonsence but last night he annoyed me. Now he has Donegal in as 3rd best team in the country after taking lumps out of them last year. I personally detest the new era of defensive football and at least Pat was consistant in his criticism it. Now he jumps on the bandwagon. He just says anything to be controversial, doesnt matter if it's accurate. A typical hindsight pundit - zero foresight! That's why he's on a couch and not on the sidelines!

The day time show with Michael Leister is much better. The night time version is becoming cheap and tacky.

List out the most 'defensive' teams in your opinion.
Now list out the teams that regularly score in excess of 15 points per game.
We live in an era of attacking football as much as we live in an era of defensive football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on June 18, 2012, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 18, 2012, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: here comes 6 on June 17, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
Des Cahill is the biggest mistake the Sunday game has ever made

Yes and that's saying something.

Does no one remember when Pat presented it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 19, 2012, 10:15:12 AM
Quote from: Gold on June 18, 2012, 11:38:54 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on June 18, 2012, 05:20:33 PM
Quote from: here comes 6 on June 17, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
Des Cahill is the biggest mistake the Sunday game has ever made

Yes and that's saying something.

Does no one remember when Pat presented it?

:'( :'( :'( :'(

Why ... Why did you have to remind us of that abomination!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 19, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
When Spillane presented the Sunday Game a few years back I had a cousin home from America who wouldnt believe me that Spillane was a real presenter and not a comedy sketch!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 19, 2012, 01:55:27 PM
I think Cahill is worse because he should know better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on July 01, 2012, 11:52:35 PM
Some bluffers on this show. Martin McHugh tonight came up with another classic. Two of Ulsters weaker teams, Cavan and Fermanagh, are playing. Instead of actually finding out what happened he makes it up. Martin reckons the game turned in Cavans favour when Givney went off injured forcing Cavan to play Gearoid McKiernan at midfield. Great stuff Martin except its complete bollocks...

- McKiernan was named at Ctr forward in the program but played the entire game at midfield and was never moved anywhere.
- Givney was named in midfield but started in the FF line and was later moved out to Ctr forward.
- Givney went off injured in the 1st half, Cavan were 3 points down at that stage.
- 15 minutes into the 2nd half Cavan were 6 points down, so this turn around happened long after Givney went off.
- The turnaround happened just after Declan McKiernan came on and went into midfield, substituted on for Mark McKeever.

How much would it take for McHugh to actually find out some detail of the game before spouting shite on TV?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tierworker blue on July 02, 2012, 12:01:19 AM
Yeah, badly researched by Mc Hugh...he got a few details a**eways.
Still, t'was more positive from him than the last analysis of Cavan...he acknowledged that we were double u-21 and last year's minor champions, but in the same breath moaned and threw the eyes up to heaven saying that we 'just don't have the talent coming through!' (he must've said that 3 or 4 times in that particular interview!) I don't know who annoyed him that day, but he really stuck the boot in!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ard-Rí on July 02, 2012, 12:02:05 AM
Some of the qualifier round up commentaries sounded like text-to-speech generators.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 02, 2012, 12:06:10 AM
Some of the camera work on those qualifier games was atrocious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 02, 2012, 12:07:28 AM
At least mcstay corrected carneys woeful rules knowledge from earlier on in the day by stating tomas oconnor's point should never have stood
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 02, 2012, 09:58:57 AM
In that company (McHugh and Cahill), McStay appeared composed and knowledgeable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 02, 2012, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 02, 2012, 09:58:57 AM
In that company (McHugh and Cahill), McStay appeared composed and knowledgeable.

Big difference.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Christmas Lights on July 02, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
Is this the most negative thread on gaaboard?

Lot of experts pundits and presenters in here  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on July 02, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on July 02, 2012, 12:02:05 AM
Some of the qualifier round up commentaries sounded like text-to-speech generators.

Could be wrong but i thought one commentator compared the goal in the Derry v Longford game  as similar to that scored by JODY Sheridan.   ( Could be wrong )
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on July 02, 2012, 11:46:41 AM
The Longford -Derry commentary was done by Ciaran Mullolly...Longford own Anchorman, more suited to doing a piece on turf cutting on the 6 o clock news before the sport than a piece of sports reporting!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 02, 2012, 11:50:09 AM
Does anyone know why a camera from the 1960's was used for the piece on Derry??!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
starting shortly - quite ironic that it's being preceeded by Fr Ted. dougal Ted and Jack having a good conversation on the sofa there
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
starting shortly - quite ironic that it's being preceeded by Fr Ted. dougal Ted and Jack having a good conversation on the sofa there

Expect a repeat of the Munster Hurling for 40 mins including analysis  then 15 mins on the Connacht final followed by less than 5 mins per qualifier.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
starting shortly - quite ironic that it's being preceeded by Fr Ted. dougal Ted and Jack having a good conversation on the sofa there

Expect a repeat of the Munster Hurling for 40 mins including analysis  then 15 mins on the Connacht final followed by less than 5 mins per qualifier.

heading that road alright
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 15, 2012, 10:10:35 PM
Mug of tea, check.. kitkats, check... great theme tune, check...

Des sucking the life out of any excitement i  have, unfortunately check!!

Great hair gel though....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on July 15, 2012, 10:11:51 PM
Eddie Brennan is as wooden as a hurl....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on July 15, 2012, 10:15:22 PM
I love the game of hurling but god the RTE hurling pundits are very boring. Stating the obvious with little insight. At least the football lads don't hold back and have a bit of spark about them
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 15, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
Donal O Grady is fantastic; he's a man ye could go for a pint with.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 15, 2012, 10:30:03 PM
Nice to see Pat coming out with something fresh and insightful......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 15, 2012, 10:45:30 PM
Spillane thinks hes Stone Cold Steve Austin with his "bottom line" comments.............................. hope whelan knocks him clean out with his massive head..................................oul Cahill stoned off his bracket as usual
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: neilthemac on July 15, 2012, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 15, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
Donal O Grady is fantastic; he's a man ye could go for a pint with.

have done, back in May. sound man.
Had a great chat 'as Gaeilge' about the upcoming Limerick v Tipp game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 15, 2012, 11:37:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
starting shortly - quite ironic that it's being preceeded by Fr Ted. dougal Ted and Jack having a good conversation on the sofa there

Expect a repeat of the Munster Hurling for 40 mins including analysis  then 15 mins on the Connacht final followed by less than 5 mins per qualifier.

Agreed, Look i know they have a budget. But games that got full coverage during the day should only get a (small) summary in the evening show. Ok maybe a (small) bit more if it's a provincial final.  They already got their exposure.
Most people who have a interest in the game that's live on TV will watch it live on Tv, go to the game, record the game on sky+, watch it online the next day.
But if your game is not live you are left with this rushed through summary of 4-5 minutes and a half arsed analysis of the game, by analysists who you know have not really seen the game and are working on prompts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2012, 11:38:51 PM
I sorta like Whelan. He's still a bit submissive to Pat but there's potential.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Duine Eile on July 16, 2012, 12:11:33 AM
Crikey Pat's tie was something else tonight, it reminded me of an old pair of curtains we used have in the "good front room" back in the 80s!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 16, 2012, 01:29:36 AM
Pat's Titanic sure is taking its sweet fecking time sinking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2012, 10:50:55 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
starting shortly - quite ironic that it's being preceeded by Fr Ted. dougal Ted and Jack having a good conversation on the sofa there

Expect a repeat of the Munster Hurling for 40 mins including analysis  then 15 mins on the Connacht final followed by less than 5 mins per qualifier.
That is what happens when you get dumped out of any provincial championship.
There were 8 qualifiers and there is only one Munster hurling final . 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Quote from: ck on June 19, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
When Spillane presented the Sunday Game a few years back I had a cousin home from America who wouldnt believe me that Spillane was a real presenter and not a comedy sketch!
Priceless. He does look like some sort of parody. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Quote from: ck on June 19, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
When Spillane presented the Sunday Game a few years back I had a cousin home from America who wouldnt believe me that Spillane was a real presenter and not a comedy sketch!
Priceless. He does look like some sort of parody.
The real Spillane is a better parody than the sketch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on July 16, 2012, 12:23:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 15, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
starting shortly - quite ironic that it's being preceeded by Fr Ted. dougal Ted and Jack having a good conversation on the sofa there

Expect a repeat of the Munster Hurling for 40 mins including analysis  then 15 mins on the Connacht final followed by less than 5 mins per qualifier.

And What's the problem with that?  ;D

it'll be all football next weekend.


Big Whelan needs to stand up for himself the next time Pat cuts him off, puts the hand on his knee then says what whelan is about to say.
Big shoulder charge off camera required there.

Has Des a deal done with just for men?

Thought the Seany Johnston skit was a bit car crash though!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2012, 12:38:27 PM
Whealo needs to wear his big white gloves whilst on the TV, hard to recognise him without them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ard-Rí on July 16, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2012, 12:38:27 PM
Whealo needs to wear his big white gloves whilst on the TV, hard to recognise him without them.

The big square jaw is enough for me to know him.
He is improving as a pundit though, he was nervous when he first joined TSG, but a crash course in Brolly relaxation techniques have really helped.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
Quote from: Ard-Rí on July 16, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 16, 2012, 12:38:27 PM
Whealo needs to wear his big white gloves whilst on the TV, hard to recognise him without them.

The big square jaw is enough for me to know him.
He is improving as a pundit though, he was nervous when he first joined TSG, but a crash course in Brolly relaxation techniques have really helped.

He's hitting the sauce?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ard-Rí on July 16, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
Something like that, yeah.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Pet was doing a fair bit of knee toucing of Whelan
Des's hair will soon get its own show - it's unreal. How is it so black and the hoor the wrong side of 50?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 16, 2012, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Pet was doing a fair bit of knee toucing of Whelan
Des's hair will soon get its own show - it's unreal. How is it so black and the hoor the wrong side of 50?

Shoe polish and pan grease.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on July 16, 2012, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Pet was doing a fair bit of knee toucing of Whelan
Des's hair will soon get its own show - it's unreal. How is it so black and the hoor the wrong side of 50?

He obviously dips the head into a barrel of inkbefore the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 16, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Pet was doing a fair bit of knee toucing of Whelan
Des's hair will soon get its own show - it's unreal. How is it so black and the hoor the wrong side of 50?
He can't do outside broadcasts in case the rain causes an oil slick... Morrissey isn't 100% natural either by the looks of him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gazzler on July 16, 2012, 10:47:40 PM
Whelans accent is annoying..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aristo 60 on July 17, 2012, 01:35:41 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 16, 2012, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Pet was doing a fair bit of knee toucing of Whelan
Des's hair will soon get its own show - it's unreal. How is it so black and the hoor the wrong side of 50?

He obviously dips the head into a barrel of inkbefore the show.

There be's rows from time to time between himself and Marty back in the green room as to who dips the head first. Saw Marty in a car show room in Belfast once. The sales guy asked him what colour he was thinking of and i'm nearly sure Marty said "touch of gray" (R)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 18, 2012, 01:25:14 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 16, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Pet was doing a fair bit of knee toucing of Whelan
Des's hair will soon get its own show - it's unreal. How is it so black and the hoor the wrong side of 50?
He can't do outside broadcasts in case the rain causes an oil slick... Morrissey isn't 100% natural either by the looks of him.

You can sing that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
Why are they showing (Late on a Sunday night) a mini documentary on Leitrim winning a Connacht title in 1994? Are they afraid to give time to the games that did not get live coverage?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AQMP on July 22, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
To make way for a feature on cynicism in football...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 22, 2012, 10:09:24 PM
Why would you want to see the games when you can listen to McStay and Spillane talking shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross4life on July 22, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
Why are they showing (Late on a Sunday night) a mini documentary on Leitrim winning a Connacht title in 1994? Are they afraid to give time to the games that did not get live coverage?
Probably the best bit on the Sunday game tonight, they should show moments like that more often.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 22, 2012, 10:15:02 PM
G that crossmaglen accent a strange one but aside from that he`s impeccable dressed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2012, 10:18:11 PM
Missed the games today so didn't want to know scores. Pre Dublin meath they advertise Meath Laois qualifier.

That and probably about a third of scores in games shown due to 1994 and big amount of crap being talked - poor show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on July 22, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Don't know whats wrong with people, mcstay is a top pundit, fairly good to listen to. Spillane adds nothing to the table
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 22, 2012, 10:29:25 PM
Mcstay is far from a top pundit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 10:46:29 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on July 22, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Don't know whats wrong with people, mcstay is a top pundit, fairly good to listen to. Spillane adds nothing to the table

McStay loves Kildare, he's bought into the hype.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 22, 2012, 10:48:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on July 22, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 10:01:08 PM
Why are they showing (Late on a Sunday night) a mini documentary on Leitrim winning a Connacht title in 1994? Are they afraid to give time to the games that did not get live coverage?
Probably the best bit on the Sunday game tonight, they should show moments like that more often.

Can barely remember the last time RTE produced a proper GAA documentary, they do a five minute interview segment with a few former and current players and then thrown on extended highlights of the AI final at Christmas and call it a documentary but that's about it. There was a decent one going behind the scenes of Croke Park on AI final day but that had little to do with the sport itself.

I know TG4 do some good documentaries but would it really be that hard for RTE to do something like what America's Game (chronicling a season of a team through a rapid mixture of interviews and quick-cut highlights and archive footage of different angles, not just offering up the tv broadcast in repeat) for gaelic football? Even the TG4 stuff are as static as a headstone, there's just no verve to them at all.

The sad part is RTE already did a fantastic job of exactly that type of documentary with Reaching for Glory, which told the story of the Irish rugby team's 2007 season.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 22, 2012, 10:48:16 PM
Jason Ryan seems to bring alot to the table lads.............................doesnt talk shite and is easy on the eye..........hes a keeper, mcstay and davis are complete mutton heads

Brolly must be on the piss up in Clones ? he,ll have a head like a hatchet wound i da,morrow
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 10:56:20 PM
Poor Aaron is like a young lad out on the piss with two uncles!

Win at all cost.......Never!  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 10:57:44 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: eviemonkey on July 22, 2012, 10:59:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 22, 2012, 10:48:01 PM

The sad part is RTE already did a fantastic job of exactly that type of documentary with Reaching for Glory, which told the story of the Irish rugby team's 2007 season.

Ryle Nugent must have pushed the boat out on that one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:02:16 PM
Des is going to the Olympics. Well thanks be to god for that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Which event?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Which event?
Hopefully boxing or maybe swimming to wash the heavy dye from his hair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Which event?
Hopefully boxing or maybe swimming to wash the heavy dye from his hair.

Curling!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gazzler on July 22, 2012, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Which event?
Hopefully boxing or maybe swimming to wash the heavy dye from his hair.

Curling!
At the Summer Olympics?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:46:53 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on July 22, 2012, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Which event?
Hopefully boxing or maybe swimming to wash the heavy dye from his hair.

Curling!
At the Summer Olympics?

Summer Olympics? Nah, i was talking about his hair!  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 22, 2012, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:02:16 PM
Des is going to the Olympics. Well thanks be to god for that.

Who'll present the Sunday Game in his absence?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:53:30 PM
(http://www.sligotoday.ie/images/1266941130.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: saffron sam2 on July 23, 2012, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 22, 2012, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:02:16 PM
Des is going to the Olympics. Well thanks be to god for that.

Who'll present the Sunday Game in his absence?

Mick Lyster, according to the man himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 12:08:48 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:53:30 PM
(http://www.sligotoday.ie/images/1266941130.jpg)

Nah that lad is gonna be all over Katie Taylors ring  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 23, 2012, 12:12:10 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on July 23, 2012, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 22, 2012, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:02:16 PM
Des is going to the Olympics. Well thanks be to god for that.

Who'll present the Sunday Game in his absence?

Mick Lyster, according to the man himself.

Can't bear Lyster, but I guess he's the obvious choice. At least they're not bringing Spillane back as presenter. That was a disaster.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 23, 2012, 02:24:46 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 22, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
Which event?

Hopefully boxing or maybe swimming to wash the heavy dye from his hair.

Curling!


Fell asleep after the Meath v Dublin game and only awakening up now...............laughing me balls off at these comments; I'm telling ye lads we have some very funny people on this forum!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 23, 2012, 02:27:24 AM
Micheal Lyster is our Gay Byrne, or to us northerners Gerry Kelly so..................


LEAVE MICHAEL LYSTER ALONE!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 23, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
Just thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: here comes 6 on July 23, 2012, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 23, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
Just thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!
Aaron was Excellent. Why??  Because he knows the game and talks total sense.  Spillane thinks all teams should play the way kerry play.  As for Kevin McStay he doesnt even know the difference in limerick and Kildare. He gets all excited when Des asks him a Question as if Him and Des are having a fling
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadence on July 23, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
any chance of one of yous has recorded it and throwing up a youtube link please? we don't get it over here until late wednesday night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 23, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 23, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
Just thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!
i thought he was a wee bit nervous and uncomfortable , but that was understanable. spoke quiet well though, and showed a bit of insight, not like those other 2 muppets.
think once he gets used to the tv appearances, he could be very good.
there are a few ex players about that are very good pundits, which makes it starnage that rte persist with teh people the do

sennan connell, canavan,o'se, o'cineade,parkinson, tohill are all better at analyising the modern game than the crap we usually have to listen to from spillane, mcstay & mchugh etc
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on July 23, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
The lads on tv3 are alot better. Sennan Connell says it as it is, so does Canavan and Brady. Spillane is sounding like a broken record at this stage, repeating himself over with Kerry the artists of football and the other counties still learning how to play it. I hope Cork meet Kerry again in the quarter finals, once Kerry beat Clare. Spillane said Cork would never beat Kerry in Croke Park so i'd love to see him prove wrong. RTE is unwatchable when Spillane and Brolly are on at the same time, i don't know who is worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadence on July 23, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 23, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 23, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
Just thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!
i thought he was a wee bit nervous and uncomfortable , but that was understanable. spoke quiet well though, and showed a bit of insight, not like those other 2 muppets.
think once he gets used to the tv appearances, he could be very good.
there are a few ex players about that are very good pundits, which makes it starnage that rte persist with teh people the do

sennan connell, canavan,o'se, o'cineade,parkinson, tohill are all better at analyising the modern game than the crap we usually have to listen to from spillane, mcstay & mchugh etc

i liked canavan and o'se. tv3 is much better. mchugh, great player and legend, and has good insight into the game i think, but as a live pundit he's all stream of consciousness, but in a bad way, he rambles and never knows when to finish his point. he needs to be more succinct. out of the two rte mainstays you've mentioned, mcstay wins hands down. spillane we'll have to suffer for years. they'll never get rid of him. what we ever did to deserve him i'll never know. all the kerry greats and we get him. he's pure tabloid. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 23, 2012, 12:05:37 PM
Quote from: cadence on July 23, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 23, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 23, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
Just thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!
i thought he was a wee bit nervous and uncomfortable , but that was understanable. spoke quiet well though, and showed a bit of insight, not like those other 2 muppets.
think once he gets used to the tv appearances, he could be very good.
there are a few ex players about that are very good pundits, which makes it starnage that rte persist with teh people the do

sennan connell, canavan,o'se, o'cineade,parkinson, tohill are all better at analyising the modern game than the crap we usually have to listen to from spillane, mcstay & mchugh etc

i liked canavan and o'se. tv3 is much better. mchugh, great player and legend, and has good insight into the game i think, but as a live pundit he's all stream of consciousness, but in a bad way, he rambles and never knows when to finish his point. he needs to be more succinct. out of the two rte mainstays you've mentioned, mcstay wins hands down. spillane we'll have to suffer for years. they'll never get rid of him. what we ever did to deserve him i'll never know. all the kerry greats and we get him. he's pure tabloid.


Even his son says he should cop himself on !!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/18948243
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Frank Casey on July 23, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
Spillane saying, about Brolly, that a fella like him with only one AI Medal wouldn't be left write in the parish newsletter in Kerry ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 23, 2012, 05:41:12 PM
Quote from: Frank Casey on July 23, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
Spillane saying, about Brolly, that a fella like him with only one AI Medal wouldn't be left write in the parish newsletter in Kerry ;D ;D ;D

In fairness to Pat that was an e mail or a tweet that was sent into the show.....but it was probably what Pat was thinking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 05:57:52 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 23, 2012, 05:41:12 PM
Quote from: Frank Casey on July 23, 2012, 05:39:28 PM
Spillane saying, about Brolly, that a fella like him with only one AI Medal wouldn't be left write in the parish newsletter in Kerry ;D ;D ;D

In fairness to Pat that was an e mail or a tweet that was sent into the show.....but it was probably what Pat was thinking.

Spillane is complete bafoon, sick of him and kerry lads banging on about their four hundred all irelands like they are the only ones with cocks etc
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadence on July 23, 2012, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 23, 2012, 12:05:37 PM
Quote from: cadence on July 23, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 23, 2012, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 23, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
Just thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!
i thought he was a wee bit nervous and uncomfortable , but that was understanable. spoke quiet well though, and showed a bit of insight, not like those other 2 muppets.
think once he gets used to the tv appearances, he could be very good.
there are a few ex players about that are very good pundits, which makes it starnage that rte persist with teh people the do

sennan connell, canavan,o'se, o'cineade,parkinson, tohill are all better at analyising the modern game than the crap we usually have to listen to from spillane, mcstay & mchugh etc

i liked canavan and o'se. tv3 is much better. mchugh, great player and legend, and has good insight into the game i think, but as a live pundit he's all stream of consciousness, but in a bad way, he rambles and never knows when to finish his point. he needs to be more succinct. out of the two rte mainstays you've mentioned, mcstay wins hands down. spillane we'll have to suffer for years. they'll never get rid of him. what we ever did to deserve him i'll never know. all the kerry greats and we get him. he's pure tabloid.


Even his son says he should cop himself on !!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/18948243
;D hilarious. ah these feckin' young fellas never listen... good job they don't!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 23, 2012, 06:55:52 PM
QuoteJust thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!

A sound first appearance. Good to see another Cross' man get up there in the pundit stakes, appropriate for the world centre of gaelic football. You can't be letting Errigal dominate the media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 23, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 23, 2012, 06:55:52 PM
QuoteJust thought I would mention I thought Aaron Kernan was excellent last night!!

A sound first appearance. Good to see another Cross' man get up there in the pundit stakes, appropriate for the world centre of gaelic football. You can't be letting Errigal dominate the media.

Aaron did ok, but i am always uncomfortable with players who are still playing the game doing punditry. Can be hard to say certain things. Most that will come back probably to haunt you a week or two later!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Frank Casey on July 23, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 23, 2012, 05:57:52 PM
Spillane is complete bafoon, sick of him and kerry lads banging on about their four hundred all irelands like they are the only ones with cocks etc

Good well balanced view aka a chip on both shoulders ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 29, 2012, 10:49:35 PM
Jez, The Sunday game on at (Nearly) 11pm. Feck it's a Sunday night and a weeks work is ahead. Plus if i want to see football. I'll have to watch main highlights of the Hurling that were on during the day before and nobody will want to see that coz Cork and Kilkenny won!

I'm off ta Bed. Night Night. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  :'(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stew on July 29, 2012, 10:58:41 PM
All Spillane had to do was simply to retire from playing and maybe work with the Kerry minors, then the U21's and after a while he could have become a long time Kerry manager, a lot of us in here who had the privilege of watching him play at his best rated him as one of the all time greats.

when i think of him now all I think of is that he is a less articulate version of Dunphy and is about as likeable to boot, it is a shame that he has tarnished the peoples view of him, he was tremendous back in the day and now he is seen as two ends of a dogs bollocks!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 29, 2012, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: stew on July 29, 2012, 10:58:41 PM
All Spillane had to do was simply to retire from playing and maybe work with the Kerry minors, then the U21's and after a while he could have become a long time Kerry manager, a lot of us in here who had the privilege of watching him play at his best rated him as one of the all time greats.

when i think of him now all I think of is that he is a less articulate version of Dunphy and is about as likeable to boot, it is a shame that he has tarnished the peoples view of him, he was tremendous back in the day and now he is seen as two ends of a dogs bollocks!

The opposite with Gary Neville.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 30, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Joe didn't do himself any favours there. His salient point of Kerry not winning the big games when it's put up to them may have some merit but saying Gooch is a choker to try and demonstrate it was very very stupid I would say!

Cringey stuff!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AFS on July 30, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 30, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Joe didn't do himself any favours there. His salient point of Kerry not winning the big games when it's put up to them may have some merit but saying Gooch is a choker to try and demonstrate it was very very stupid I would say!

Cringey stuff!

Why were they wasting five minutes of the show on the stupid mutterings of one of their resident gobshites anyway? Does anyone give that much of a f**k, especially when that five minutes could've much better spent beefing out the pathetically short highlights of the four qualifiers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seanog on July 30, 2012, 01:05:20 AM
Quote from: AFS on July 30, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on July 30, 2012, 12:15:52 AM
Joe didn't do himself any favours there. His salient point of Kerry not winning the big games when it's put up to them may have some merit but saying Gooch is a choker to try and demonstrate it was very very stupid I would say!

Cringey stuff!

Why were they wasting five minutes of the show on the stupid mutterings of one of their resident gobshites anyway? Does anyone give that much of a f**k, especially when that five minutes could've much better spent beefing out the pathetically short highlights of the four qualifiers.

So true, whoever is responsible for setting out the show in general should be fired. It's badly done imo, we're down to the last eight, they spent so little time analysing the games for next week yet they could spend a few mins showing us BBrogans hero Mick Galvin. I tend to find it all very disappointing , their needs to be a whole new revamp for next year, they need to find out what the GAA enthusiast wants to be watching and hearing, worthwhile stuff, not the same bllomin rhetoric we'll read in the papers tmrw.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 30, 2012, 06:57:23 AM
I don't even watch the night-time programme of The Sunday Game anymore. It offers nothing - the highlights they show focus on the games that were already shown live. You only get some news report type coverage of the other games.
And the "analysis" is pathetic - it would just annoy me to watch that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 11:07:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 29, 2012, 10:49:35 PM
Jez, The Sunday game on at (Nearly) 11pm. Feck it's a Sunday night and a weeks work is ahead. Plus if i want to see football. I'll have to watch main highlights of the Hurling that were on during the day before and nobody will want to see that coz Cork and Kilkenny won!

I'm off ta Bed. Night Night. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  :'(
Hurling is as much a part of the GAA as football.
Pity the likes of you see it as a nuisance!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 30, 2012, 12:01:29 PM
I think the point is that both hurling games had earlier been shown live.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 11:07:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 29, 2012, 10:49:35 PM
Jez, The Sunday game on at (Nearly) 11pm. Feck it's a Sunday night and a weeks work is ahead. Plus if i want to see football. I'll have to watch main highlights of the Hurling that were on during the day before and nobody will want to see that coz Cork and Kilkenny won!

I'm off ta Bed. Night Night. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  :'(
Hurling is as much a part of the GAA as football.
Pity the likes of you see it as a nuisance!

Note: i said the main highlights that were on during the day which i watched (in real time) and did not want to watch again.

Look you are from Tipperary and it's important to you but in the North Western half of the country, We are outsiders in this Elite game, we have as much of a connection when watching Hurling as watching Man Utd!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on July 30, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.
Agreed, as much of a bollix that Brolly is, he did have a point...at least enough for the lads to engage in a debate. Didn't like the way Spillane and Lyster were almost laughing at him
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
Look you are from Tipperary and it's important to you but in the North Western half of the country, We are outsiders in this Elite game, we have as much of a connection when watching Hurling as watching Man Utd!
It's your own loss if you take that attitude.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:46:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 30, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.
Agreed, as much of a bollix that Brolly is, he did have a point...at least enough for the lads to engage in a debate. Didn't like the way Spillane and Lyster were almost laughing at him

Yeah, instead of chairing the argument Lyster became part of the Spillane side which took from a good point ad did not let the debate develop. Poor review of Quarter-finals. Total disrespect for Laois, who are there on Merit and deserved more than a 'No' analysis. The rest of the analysis was wishy washy, but maybe that's all their standard of analysis is up to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:52:17 PM
Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 30, 2012, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
Look you are from Tipperary and it's important to you but in the North Western half of the country, We are outsiders in this Elite game, we have as much of a connection when watching Hurling as watching Man Utd!
It's your own loss if you take that attitude.

Of course it's our loss. Hurling is an Elite sport played at a top level by a maximum of eight counties. The rest of us are looking from a distance from the outside. The AI championship is really a glamourised Provincial Championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aristo 60 on July 30, 2012, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:46:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 30, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.
Agreed, as much of a bollix that Brolly is, he did have a point...at least enough for the lads to engage in a debate. Didn't like the way Spillane and Lyster were almost laughing at him

Yeah, instead of chairing the argument Lyster became part of the Spillane side which took from a good point ad did not let the debate develop. Poor review of Quarter-finals. Total disrespect for Laois, who are there on Merit and deserved more than a 'No' analysis. The rest of the analysis was wishy washy, but maybe that's all their standard of analysis is up to.

He hadn't much good to say about Down either and even took a sideswipe at us when analysising Kildare's chances. Poor form. I think every time Joe says something derogatory about another county RTE should make him finish his sentence with "but look sure what can I say, Derry are another level of sh1te".

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 31, 2012, 01:45:30 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on July 30, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.
Agreed, as much of a bollix that Brolly is, he did have a point...at least enough for the lads to engage in a debate. Didn't like the way Spillane and Lyster were almost laughing at him

Thought it was best Sunday game show of the year. Michael Lyster does a wonderful job as host. He also had the dream team in the studio. Thought it was a good debate, Joe Brolly had some good points. I was laughing my arse off at Pat Spillanes expressions when he could not get a word in, he thought he was off camera and was making some awful gestures to Lyster, and Brolly kept going. I dont know how Michael Lyster keeps a straight face. Worth watching if you did not see it.
RTE if your are reading this, pay Michael Lyster double to also do the Sunday game programme. Otherwise show does not work.  This time of year you can also extend the show by 30 mins get more advertising etc (don't need a MBA in business to figure that out), and get rid of some of the nostalgia nonsense, just the facts please. I also like Kevin Mcstay who is knowledgeable and not afraid to make a point. Ciaran Whealan had also added something. Keep Tony Davis off the air, please, a complete spoofer who does little or no homework.

Q why does TV3 not have a similar type show with less bullsh*t. Surely it would up the ante on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 31, 2012, 02:43:55 PM
Last Sunday night's show was probably the worst ever from a football point of view.
We had the 4  Round 4 games on that weekend only one of which was live on TV. These are high profile "last 12" games yet we got a total of about 5 minutes of action and trite little or no analysis but loads of Brolly and Spillane sh1te about Cooper being a choker.
Doesn't matter a fcuk if he is or not I want to get an idea what the games were like and then get a proper analysis as to why the winners won and the losers lost .
It can't be that hard  -- the hurling bucks on the same programme can do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shawshank on July 31, 2012, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.

Have a read http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/why-we-should-ignore-pundits-like-joe-brolly-202562.html
(http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/why-we-should-ignore-pundits-like-joe-brolly-202562.html)

A slightly better analysis of Kerry. You should think for your self ;)

On saying that Brolly is gas craic
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 31, 2012, 07:39:53 PM
Does Brolly think it cool to use phrases like ' they had no arse in their trousers' on TV. Would he use such language in a Court in front of a judge? The man's an ignoramus in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on July 31, 2012, 08:46:00 PM
Get Bert le Clos onto the Sunday Game panel
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 31, 2012, 09:08:28 PM
"just look at Conor Mortimer... Such a beautiful boy!"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: shawshank on July 31, 2012, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.

Have a read http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/why-we-should-ignore-pundits-like-joe-brolly-202562.html
(http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/why-we-should-ignore-pundits-like-joe-brolly-202562.html)

A slightly better analysis of Kerry. You should think for your self ;)

On saying that Brolly is gas craic

Thanks for posting that, don't get to read enough Kieran Shannon these days
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on August 01, 2012, 04:59:24 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.

You've been banging this drum for a few months now "From the bunker" but Its not working. It is as if you are trying to offload you're own counties "choker" tag to us  ::)  ..a bit sad really.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on August 01, 2012, 05:18:55 AM
That's a brilliant article by Kieran Shannon. Says it perfectly. Makes you wonder what's going on i RTE. Juding by his board almost all GAA fans are very unhappy with the football analysts. I suppose they'll always pull in the viewers anyway, having a monopoly on the unday Niht highlights.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on August 01, 2012, 12:35:15 PM
Brolly's point made simple. Over the last 10 - 15 years it seems that if you can stick with Kerry for 60 minutes they will choke/crumble in the last 10 and will get beaten. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 01, 2012, 12:41:03 PM
QuoteBrolly's point made simple. Over the last 10 - 15 years it seems that if you can stick with Kerry for 60 minutes they will choke/crumble in the last 10 and will get beaten. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

It isn't quite as simple as that. If you haven't managed to stick with Kerry for 60 minutes then you have no chance of beating them. In 2000 Armagh went to extra time in a replay against Kerry, in 2002 we beat them. It could have been other way around.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 01, 2012, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 01, 2012, 04:59:24 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
Just watched the Brolly Spillane spat on The Sunday Game on the RTE Player. I do not see Colm Cooper as a Choker, but i do see merit in Brollys argument that Kerry as a Team have choked when it has been put up to them in tight games. I found Spillane annoying the way he tried to fog  of the argument with no stats, just look at the medals, but his demeanour looked uncomfortable and i think Brolly struck a chord that dwells deep in the Kerry psyche.

Quote from: Denn Forever on July 30, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
I watch the highlights show on TG4 on Saturday morning.  Just the games with some interviews with Managers.  And they also show good highlightd of the Minor games.

Yeah, TG4 are on the money.

You've been banging this drum for a few months now "From the bunker" but Its not working. It is as if you are trying to offload you're own counties "choker" tag to us  ::)  ..a bit sad really.

Nobody is perfect, not even Kerry, it is just an observation that i think has merit. I said it on this board before Brolly's rant. I think Brolly was out of order to have a go at Gooch in explaining it. After all it's a team game so to single out one individaul is wrong.

I'd have alot of offloading to try an get Kerry down to out to our level.  ;)

I must say the business side of the Championship is great this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on August 02, 2012, 04:49:23 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on August 01, 2012, 12:35:15 PM
Brolly's point made simple. Over the last 10 - 15 years it seems that if you can stick with Kerry for 60 minutes they will choke/crumble in the last 10 and will get beaten. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Its a stupid argument because he is trying to make it seem as if its specific to Kerry. That argument can be made against any of the "top" team if you look at the totality of their results. Losing in the quarter final dumps you out of the AI championship just as surely as losing in the final does you know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on August 02, 2012, 05:17:50 AM
I saw the clip of Brolly's rant. Basically he was allowed rant for 5 minutes and got increasingly more defensive and wouldn't let Spillane talk. I thought Pat was very restrained and was much more reasonable in the few points he was allowed to make.

All you have to do is look at the look on Brolly's horrible puss at the very end to know who came out the winner here. It was priceless  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w-68pdjSrk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w-68pdjSrk)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 02, 2012, 07:41:07 AM
Brolly is very funny. He just plays with Spillane and can rise him at will. It's a bit like a version of Statler and Waldorf where Statler has the smarts and Waldorf doesn't. It must be great fun for Lyster to get paid for being a part of that. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on August 02, 2012, 07:54:13 AM
Yeah, he is funny. His impression of a drunk is dead on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 02, 2012, 10:37:34 AM
Brolly's argument, in other words, is that when teams beat Kerry, they beat them narrowly and usually only get on top in the last ten minutes, but when Kerry win, they tend to win easily.

Seems to me that's not surprising for one of the best teams around and hardly qualifies as ground-breaking analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on August 02, 2012, 11:09:19 AM

How can u watch SG in the north with the Rte player blocked?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 02, 2012, 11:15:43 AM
QuoteHow can u watch SG in the north with the Rte player blocked?

The RTÉ player is not blocked in the North, only if your IP number does not indicate that it is in North will you have any problems.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 02, 2012, 01:35:54 PM
Plus we get RTE2 through our skybox.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on August 02, 2012, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 02, 2012, 11:09:19 AM

How can u watch SG in the north with the Rte player blocked?

Count yourself Lucky. I'd say the veiwing figures for the sunday game have falling to the floor so they set up last weeks Show just to get poeple talking about it again .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on August 02, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
I think a good start would be to get bill o herlighy. Now there's a pro
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 03, 2012, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 02, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
I think a good start would be to get bill o herlighy. Now there's a pro

Any 'protestant' sports for Billo to cover ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on August 03, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
Aye I have that proble, i can't get the sunday game on the player. Can ye switch yer IP address or anything?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2012, 11:29:27 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 02, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
I think a good start would be to get bill o herlighy. Now there's a pro

Couldn't agree more; Lyster couldn't lace Bill's boots!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on August 04, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 02, 2012, 04:49:23 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on August 01, 2012, 12:35:15 PM
Brolly's point made simple. Over the last 10 - 15 years it seems that if you can stick with Kerry for 60 minutes they will choke/crumble in the last 10 and will get beaten. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Its a stupid argument because he is trying to make it seem as if its specific to Kerry. That argument can be made against any of the "top" team if you look at the totality of their results. Losing in the quarter final dumps you out of the AI championship just as surely as losing in the final does you know.

It's actually crazy the stick kerry have gotten the last few months. The brolly article was a load of dung, doesn't matter if he's being funny or winding up or whatever. Kerry were there every year to be beaten in a tight game, just like mayo deserve credit for getting there in 04 and 06. Tyrone certainly enjoyed taking a few gap years in 06 and 07 when they were brutal, and armagh didn't reach enough finals either. The amount of people who have bought into the arguement shows a lack of football knowledge. Kerry still have the best 'top 10' players of any side in the country, in saying that i think donegal have a good chance of beating them, and of course i'l be supporting donegal anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 04, 2012, 12:53:49 AM
Have to say 'The Sunday Game' is a mess. Sports coverage has moved on and this show seems to be stuck in the '90s. When you have limited time to show games, why would you try and make it into a magazine programme with players looking at past games and footage? Fresh modern analysists are needed, people who understand the modern game. Provincial analysist are needed for the provincial championship. What do Spillane and O'Rourke know about the Connacht Championship for example. They usually make that educated uninformed guess that Galway will win and are legitimately surprised when this does not happen. Games shown live during the day need little coverage in the evening show while uncovered games should get more than 3 minutes skimpy highlight coverage. Why is it on so late on a Sunday night? Why cannot there be a Saturday highlights show?

Quote from: Orchardman on August 04, 2012, 12:38:07 AM
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on August 02, 2012, 04:49:23 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on August 01, 2012, 12:35:15 PM
Brolly's point made simple. Over the last 10 - 15 years it seems that if you can stick with Kerry for 60 minutes they will choke/crumble in the last 10 and will get beaten. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Its a stupid argument because he is trying to make it seem as if its specific to Kerry. That argument can be made against any of the "top" team if you look at the totality of their results. Losing in the quarter final dumps you out of the AI championship just as surely as losing in the final does you know.

It's actually crazy the stick kerry have gotten the last few months. The brolly article was a load of dung, doesn't matter if he's being funny or winding up or whatever. Kerry were there every year to be beaten in a tight game, just like mayo deserve credit for getting there in 04 and 06. Tyrone certainly enjoyed taking a few gap years in 06 and 07 when they were brutal, and armagh didn't reach enough finals either. The amount of people who have bought into the arguement shows a lack of football knowledge. Kerry still have the best 'top 10' players of any side in the country, in saying that i think donegal have a good chance of beating them, and of course i'l be supporting donegal anyway.

Yeah, look when you are at the top table and get beat, the standard is higher in expectation. So you lose a final or semi-final, your performance gets greater scrutany. I always smile at the lack of stick our neighbours (Galway) get from the media. Mainly because they are out and forgotten about in the championship come mid July, whereas we (Mayo) are in the limelight and losing some Final, semi-final etc, and getting it goodo!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on August 04, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
Seo Spoirt back on Friday 10/8.  Hopefully they will analyse the AI series.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 04, 2012, 10:16:49 PM
Why did the excellent Seó Spóirt go away.
A real proper adult programme with real analysis .. maybe except for some of Seán Bán's biased Galway ráiméis  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on August 05, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 04, 2012, 10:16:49 PM
Why did the excellent Seó Spóirt go away.
A real proper adult programme with real analysis .. maybe except for some of Seán Bán's biased Galway ráiméis  :D

thought it very strange alright, i was looking for it the last few weeks. The game today between kerry and donegal would have had them real excited with cassidy, o 'se and all the great gaeltacht analysists they have
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 05, 2012, 10:36:16 PM
No Spillane, No Brolly...............ah sure that's no good!  :'(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2012, 10:49:19 PM
Dick sandwich though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 05, 2012, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2012, 10:49:19 PM
Dick sandwich though.

Who?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2012, 12:01:22 AM
Did they mention the minor scores atall?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 06, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2012, 12:01:22 AM
Did they mention the minor scores atall?

Nah, nothing! Was expecting a small bitta highlights.  :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2012, 12:09:20 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2012, 12:01:22 AM
Did they mention the minor scores atall?

Nah, nothing! Was expecting a small bitta highlights.  :(

TG4 tomorrow night
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on August 14, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Just watched last Sunday's show. The hurling analysts were excellent as usual. Duignan, Farrell and Mulcahy were all very positive and passionate - great stuff. I don't think all the football analysts are as bad as some people on here make them out to be either. Spillane is a bit of an eejit and Tony Davis is fairly painful to listen to but the others are good. Brolly is entertaining and insightful. McStay is a good analyst too. I can see how all that lingo he uses could irritate people but it never bothered me as I think, unlike Spillane, he's making a genuine effort to analyse things and not just trying to sound clever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seamus on August 14, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on August 14, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Just watched last Sunday's show. The hurling analysts were excellent as usual. Duignan, Farrell and Mulcahy were all very positive and passionate - great stuff. I don't think all the football analysts are as bad as some people on here make them out to be either. Spillane is a bit of an eejit and Tony Davis is fairly painful to listen to but the others are good. Brolly is entertaining and insightful. McStay is a good analyst too. I can see how all that lingo he uses could irritate people but it never bothered me as I think, unlike Spillane, he's making a genuine effort to analyse things and not just trying to sound clever.

Like telling us that a lateral pass is a free in gaelic football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 14, 2012, 10:47:47 PM
Spillane was a great footballer, who played with a great team and won alot of medals. But as an analysist he is limited. He's a purist and most of his analysist is based on how good are bad the game is, nothing more. Spillane deals with issues such as was there good kick passing, high fielding, good carring of the ball etc. Personally, i don't need to be told that sort of stuff, i can see it for myself. As you say McStay tries to analyse formations, tactics, trends in a game. The bits you can't see on the TV. The bits you want to know. Some of his analysis can sound annoying because he introduces american/ foreign code lingo such as turn-overs, offence, professional foul, etc. But sure thats the modern world, it's not catch and kick football anymore, so these terms are often needed to explain the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on August 15, 2012, 03:21:28 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2012, 10:47:47 PM
Spillane was a great footballer, who played with a great team and won alot of medals. But as an analysist he is limited. He's a purist and most of his analysist is based on how good are bad the game is, nothing more. Spillane deals with issues such as was there good kick passing, high fielding, good carring of the ball etc. Personally, i don't need to be told that sort of stuff, i can see it for myself. As you say McStay tries to analyse formations, tactics, trends in a game. The bits you can't see on the TV. The bits you want to know. Some of his analysis can sound annoying because he introduces american/ foreign code lingo such as turn-overs, offence, professional foul, etc. But sure thats the modern world, it's not catch and kick football anymore, so these terms are often needed to explain the game.

Agreed. It's necessary and it's often difficult to remember the official GAA terminology anyway.  Should we say manager, coach, trainer or bainisteoir for example?What's the GAA term for turnover? Giving the ball away? I can empathise with McStay. Maybe some of his critics on here could compile a list of acceptable and unacceptable language for GAA analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 15, 2012, 03:31:48 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2012, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 06, 2012, 12:01:22 AM
Did they mention the minor scores atall?

Nah, nothing! Was expecting a small bitta highlights.  :(

Bejayus me neighbour, you've not been on the ball the last few years if you think RTE would be caught dead showing minor highlights!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on August 15, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on August 14, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Just watched last Sunday's show. The hurling analysts were excellent as usual. Duignan, Farrell and Mulcahy were all very positive and passionate - great stuff. I don't think all the football analysts are as bad as some people on here make them out to be either. Spillane is a bit of an eejit and Tony Davis is fairly painful to listen to but the others are good. Brolly is entertaining and insightful. McStay is a good analyst too. I can see how all that lingo he uses could irritate people but it never bothered me as I think, unlike Spillane, he's making a genuine effort to analyse things and not just trying to sound clever.
+1
Can never understand the stick McStay gets on here. Always makes an effort to do his job properly and not opt for the easy cheap shots like Spillane and Brolly. Has great respect for the players and comes across as a gentleman.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J OGorman on August 15, 2012, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: ross matt on August 15, 2012, 08:12:14 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on August 14, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Just watched last Sunday's show. The hurling analysts were excellent as usual. Duignan, Farrell and Mulcahy were all very positive and passionate - great stuff. I don't think all the football analysts are as bad as some people on here make them out to be either. Spillane is a bit of an eejit and Tony Davis is fairly painful to listen to but the others are good. Brolly is entertaining and insightful. McStay is a good analyst too. I can see how all that lingo he uses could irritate people but it never bothered me as I think, unlike Spillane, he's making a genuine effort to analyse things and not just trying to sound clever.
+1
Can never understand the stick McStay gets on here. Always makes an effort to do his job properly and not opt for the easy cheap shots like Spillane and Brolly. Has great respect for the players and comes across as a gentleman.

same here, like McStay too. There is a fierce amount of girners on here having pop shots behind made up names at almost every analyst, broadcaster working @ the minute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
That's it, then. I'm going to have to reconsider seriously my tendency to state my opinion of PAID spoofers like McStay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on August 15, 2012, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
That's it, then. I'm going to have to reconsider seriously my tendency to state my opinion of PAID spoofers like McStay.

I bet Hardy isn't even your real name. The cheek of it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:48:48 PM
Exactly. I'm a disgrace. I'd put my real name up if I was getting paid for it, though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on August 15, 2012, 03:05:17 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:48:48 PM
Exactly. I'm a disgrace. I'd put my real name up if I was getting paid for it, though.

But the worst kind of hoor was the likes of that Myles na Gopaleen. He got paid by the Irish Times for spouting all sorts of satirical nonsense about people and Sunday Game panelists, and it turns out he wasn't even called Myles!!! Schweet Jasus.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on August 15, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
That's it, then. I'm going to have to reconsider seriously my tendency to state my opinion of PAID spoofers like McStay.

I just don't see what you're saying about McStay being a spoofer Hardy. Anytime I've heard him he anlalyses the game well. He's not trying to be funny or controversial. What would you say makes him a spoofer?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 15, 2012, 03:21:05 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
That's it, then. I'm going to have to reconsider seriously my tendency to state my opinion of PAID spoofers like McStay.

Watch your mouth wee lad, you're talking about the manager of the double Connacht and Roscommon champions there. All set to crush the candy stripes up north this season too. The Big Mc's revenge will be sweet.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on August 15, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 15, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
That's it, then. I'm going to have to reconsider seriously my tendency to state my opinion of PAID spoofers like McStay.

I just don't see what you're saying about McStay being a spoofer Hardy. Anytime I've heard him he anlalyses the game well. He's not trying to be funny or controversial. What would you say makes him a spoofer?

He spouts all sort of nonsense. Examples - he was talking about "onside" last year in the context of balls rebounding off posts; innocuous tackles or clashes are "dangerous" and I particularly disliked his personal vilification of players - the ones I remember, of course, are Meath examples; he was giving out about the referee giving a last-minute free in Dublin-Kildare last year, not because it wasn't a free - he acknowledged it was - but because it was the last minute (he retracted this ludicrous opinion later). And he's just plain wrong about facts and game reading too often to be funny.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on August 15, 2012, 03:57:11 PM
Fair enough Hardy. I still think he's generally good but can't argue with those examples - some raimeis there alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on August 15, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
I actually think McStay is the best of the lot of them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on August 15, 2012, 06:26:35 PM
He is better in the studio rather than as co-commentator in the live games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on September 02, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
Marc Ó Sé did well not to lamp that tool Davis tonight. Ignorant hoor.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 02, 2012, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on September 02, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
Marc Ó Sé did well not to lamp that tool Davis tonight. Ignorant hoor.

Thought the same myself, poor lad sitting between McHugh the Muppet and the Davis the king of the muppets. What does Davis be going about anyway, he is not right in the head.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2012, 11:32:23 PM
Definitely a drinking game there. McHugh said 'it's interesting' 322 times today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 02, 2012, 11:43:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 02, 2012, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on September 02, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
Marc Ó Sé did well not to lamp that tool Davis tonight. Ignorant hoor.

Thought the same myself, poor lad sitting between McHugh the Muppet and the Davis the king of the muppets. What does Davis be going about anyway, he is not right in the head.

The man who brings your county's only success in the last 40 years, and he's a muppet?!  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on September 02, 2012, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: Seany on August 15, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
I actually think McStay is the best of the lot of them.

Hundred %.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2012, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: moysider on September 02, 2012, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: Seany on August 15, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
I actually think McStay is the best of the lot of them.

Hundred %.

He is annoying with his buzz words, but he looks at a game and analyses it. He does not insult counties with cheap shots.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 03, 2012, 08:28:17 AM
Cant take to Mc Hugh at all. He seems to be very fond of the snide remarks too often for my liking, it was embarassing last night too how often him and Davis cut across Marc Ó Sé .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on September 03, 2012, 09:10:59 AM
What was that skit about with the lad pretending to be someone else going through the crowds before the game about?

Was car crash stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 03, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
Cant help but think mchugh wanted dublin in the final, to beat us out the gate, god hes awful bitter....................................... Brolly is wearing thin too at this stage, his lack of respect towards non ulster counties is shocking, always tries to laugh it off as a joke

Im really hoping mcstay is not commentating in the final, as Ill be routing for the mayo buckos, however that man could easily turn ya the other way
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on September 03, 2012, 10:06:11 AM
I'm glad people are wise to McHugh now. We've known about his bitterness in Derry for a long long time. Now he's on the Sunday game people can appreciate how much of a tool he is!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 03, 2012, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on September 02, 2012, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on September 02, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
Marc Ó Sé did well not to lamp that tool Davis tonight. Ignorant hoor.

Thought the same myself, poor lad sitting between McHugh the Muppet and the Davis the king of the muppets. What does Davis be going about anyway, he is not right in the head.

It's total stream of consciousness stuff.
If you asked him what he had just said as soon as he was finished speaking, he wouldn't be able to tell you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on September 03, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 03, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
Cant help but think mchugh wanted Dublin in the final, to beat us out the gate, god hes awful bitter....................................... Brolly is wearing thin too at this stage, his lack of respect towards non ulster counties is shocking, always tries to laugh it off as a joke

I'm really hoping mcstay is not commentating in the final, as Ill be routing for the mayo buckos, however that man could easily turn ya the other way

Have to agree, I generally agree/accept Brolly's point of View, However yesterday game wasn't over five Min's, when he spewed the poisonous " Biggest winner here is Donegal" comment, really sickened my hole, could not give us Mayo folk the chance to enjoy the victory. Maybe he had a prepared analysis/theory on Donegal V Dublin final, and had no plan B.

Mchugh seems to have small man complex, needs the attention, resulting in silly comments.

Davis is an utter and complete clown, the most unprepared analyst I have ever seen. Did any of you see his patethic ramble last week, Whealan and Mchugh just stayed quite and let him dig himself a bigger hole to climb out of, comical to Say the least. Again, as they say, "he must have pictures on somebody", otherwise maybe he pays RTE to be on the show, hair and makeup included.

Mcstay is by far the best analyst, could smile now and again, as he does come across as a bit dour.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 03, 2012, 05:30:49 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on September 02, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
Marc Ó Sé did well not to lamp that tool Davis tonight. Ignorant hoor.

+1 Ignorant hoor is right. Himself and McHugh gave me a headache as they tried to shout over everyone else with some incoherent waffle. Closest I've come to turning off TSG.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RMDrive on September 04, 2012, 12:11:08 AM
Quote from: joemamas on September 03, 2012, 03:44:43 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 03, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
Cant help but think mchugh wanted Dublin in the final, to beat us out the gate, god hes awful bitter....................................... Brolly is wearing thin too at this stage, his lack of respect towards non ulster counties is shocking, always tries to laugh it off as a joke

I'm really hoping mcstay is not commentating in the final, as Ill be routing for the mayo buckos, however that man could easily turn ya the other way

Have to agree, I generally agree/accept Brolly's point of View, However yesterday game wasn't over five Min's, when he spewed the poisonous " Biggest winner here is Donegal" comment, really sickened my hole, could not give us Mayo folk the chance to enjoy the victory. Maybe he had a prepared analysis/theory on Donegal V Dublin final, and had no plan B.

Mchugh seems to have small man complex, needs the attention, resulting in silly comments.

Davis is an utter and complete clown, the most unprepared analyst I have ever seen. Did any of you see his patethic ramble last week, Whealan and Mchugh just stayed quite and let him dig himself a bigger hole to climb out of, comical to Say the least. Again, as they say, "he must have pictures on somebody", otherwise maybe he pays RTE to be on the show, hair and makeup included.

Mcstay is by far the best analyst, could smile now and again, as he does come across as a bit dour.

You were doing just fine till you got to this point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on September 04, 2012, 12:54:43 PM
Just downloaded and watched TSG. Was cringing watching Davis as well. He must be pound for pound the most annoying hoor on TV . Makes me want to fire the the ketchup bottle at the screen. Marc O Se must have been on the verge of slapping him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Celt_Man on September 04, 2012, 01:34:33 PM
Aye definitely thought Davis and to a lesser extend McHugh were cutting across Marc O'Sé on Sunday night.

But surely it's Des Cahill's job to stop that from happening... i.e. make a point of going back to Marc with a comment along the lines of "Sorry Marc you had something to say before the two boys made their point, go ahead now..." 

Martin and Tony would have to get the point then?!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on September 04, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Just flicking through this thread and nobody has anything positive to say about Davis. He rambles and sometimes makes no sense, shouting across the other guests soo that he is heard. Marc O Se spoke well but Davis chirped in a few times before he had time to finish what he was saying. Its amazing how he is still employed by RTE. At least Brolly and Spillane make the programme interesting and have a humourous side to them as well.

McStay is one annoying man doing co-commentary but is actually quite good in the studio. Very strange how RTE put him on co-commentary for Sundays game with him being a Mayo man.

McHugh whilst nowhere near as annoying as Davis sometimes rambles as well even though he does actually make some good points. Loves to start sentences with 'Its interesting .....'

Who will Martin Carney be supporting in the final?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Crete Boom on September 04, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 04, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Just flicking through this thread and nobody has anything positive to say about Davis. He rambles and sometimes makes no sense, shouting across the other guests soo that he is heard. Marc O Se spoke well but Davis chirped in a few times before he had time to finish what he was saying. Its amazing how he is still employed by RTE. At least Brolly and Spillane make the programme interesting and have a humourous side to them as well.

McStay is one annoying man doing co-commentary but is actually quite good in the studio. Very strange how RTE put him on co-commentary for Sundays game with him being a Mayo man.

McHugh whilst nowhere near as annoying as Davis sometimes rambles as well even though he does actually make some good points. Loves to start sentences with 'Its interesting .....'

Who will Martin Carney be supporting in the final?


It'll be a tough one for him and while he had some great days with Mayo especially in 1985, I'd say he have to go for the county of his birth and he did play and win an (I think) an Ulster title with Donegal in 1974
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on September 04, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on September 04, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 04, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Just flicking through this thread and nobody has anything positive to say about Davis. He rambles and sometimes makes no sense, shouting across the other guests soo that he is heard. Marc O Se spoke well but Davis chirped in a few times before he had time to finish what he was saying. Its amazing how he is still employed by RTE. At least Brolly and Spillane make the programme interesting and have a humourous side to them as well.

McStay is one annoying man doing co-commentary but is actually quite good in the studio. Very strange how RTE put him on co-commentary for Sundays game with him being a Mayo man.

McHugh whilst nowhere near as annoying as Davis sometimes rambles as well even though he does actually make some good points. Loves to start sentences with 'Its interesting .....'

Who will Martin Carney be supporting in the final?


It'll be a tough one for him and while he had some great days with Mayo especially in 1985, I'd say he have to go for the county of his birth and he did play and win an (I think) an Ulster title with Donegal in 1974

Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on September 04, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on September 04, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 04, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Just flicking through this thread and nobody has anything positive to say about Davis. He rambles and sometimes makes no sense, shouting across the other guests soo that he is heard. Marc O Se spoke well but Davis chirped in a few times before he had time to finish what he was saying. Its amazing how he is still employed by RTE. At least Brolly and Spillane make the programme interesting and have a humourous side to them as well.

McStay is one annoying man doing co-commentary but is actually quite good in the studio. Very strange how RTE put him on co-commentary for Sundays game with him being a Mayo man.

McHugh whilst nowhere near as annoying as Davis sometimes rambles as well even though he does actually make some good points. Loves to start sentences with 'Its interesting .....'

Who will Martin Carney be supporting in the final?


It'll be a tough one for him and while he had some great days with Mayo especially in 1985, I'd say he have to go for the county of his birth and he did play and win an (I think) an Ulster title with Donegal in 1974

Very much so.

I really couldn't say for certain
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: criostlinn on September 04, 2012, 10:05:14 PM
Quote from: joemamas on September 04, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 04, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on September 04, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 04, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Just flicking through this thread and nobody has anything positive to say about Davis. He rambles and sometimes makes no sense, shouting across the other guests soo that he is heard. Marc O Se spoke well but Davis chirped in a few times before he had time to finish what he was saying. Its amazing how he is still employed by RTE. At least Brolly and Spillane make the programme interesting and have a humourous side to them as well.

McStay is one annoying man doing co-commentary but is actually quite good in the studio. Very strange how RTE put him on co-commentary for Sundays game with him being a Mayo man.



McHugh whilst nowhere near as annoying as Davis sometimes rambles as well even though he does actually make some good points. Loves to start sentences with 'Its interesting .....'

Who will Martin Carney be supporting in the final?


It'll be a tough one for him and while he had some great days with Mayo especially in 1985, I'd say he have to go for the county of his birth and he did play and win an (I think) an Ulster title with Donegal in 1974

Very much so.

I really couldn't say for certain

Will defo be shouting for Donegal. Said as much on the radio last week. Something like his daughter goes to matches with him and she says that he is angry for an hour after Mayo lose where as it lasts a day when Donegal lose
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 10:06:26 PM
Martin Carney and Darragh Maloney should be on commentary for the final, both very good. TSG should be getting on more people like Ciaran Whelan who actually know a bit about the modern game and don't waffle on about nonsense. Spillane is a very poor analyst who thinks he can get away with a few sweeping statements backed up by a couple of random facts (he loves to quote which forwards have scored). In my opinion, the best analysts tell you what you don't already know and give you a different insight into the game that makes you interested. Most Sunday Game analysts, especially Spillane, McStay and Davis don't. There should be a radical revamp of the Sunday Game in my view as a lot of the analysts and the time give to the coverage of each game throughout the earlier rounds of the Championship is of a very poor standard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on September 04, 2012, 10:13:48 PM
Quote from: James Gatz on September 04, 2012, 10:06:26 PM
Martin Carney and Darragh Maloney should be on commentary for the final, both very good. TSG should be getting on more people like Ciaran Whelan who actually know a bit about the modern game and don't waffle on about nonsense. Spillane is a very poor analyst who thinks he can get away with a few sweeping statements backed up by a couple of random facts (he loves to quote which forwards have scored). In my opinion, the best analysts tell you what you don't already know and give you a different insight into the game that makes you interested. Most Sunday Game analysts, especially Spillane, McStay and Davis don't. There should be a radical revamp of the Sunday Game in my view as a lot of the analysts and the time give to the coverage of each game throughout the earlier rounds of the Championship is of a very poor standard.

Just replace the whole lot with Seo Spoirt...job done..SBB, Tomás ó Flatharta, Dara agus araile. Best GAA prog on the telly...youse brits can put with the subtitles ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 04, 2012, 11:46:59 PM
Whatever happened to Tohill on TSG
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on September 10, 2012, 04:26:30 PM
Anyone catch "Up for the match" on Saturday night? I think I'll download it for the laugh. I'm hoping it's still as bad as ever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on September 13, 2012, 08:42:36 PM
Just switched on championship matters. Who is the bird in the pink top on it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on September 13, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
QuoteWho is the bird in the pink top on it?

Camogie great, I wouldn't knock her.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 13, 2012, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2012, 08:42:36 PM
Just switched on championship matters. Who is the bird in the pink top on it?
#

Aisling Connolly. Was it not her da thatgave the famous speech afet an AI win ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on September 17, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
How could RTE label that 5 minute aside last night at the end of the show as a preview of the AIF? Donegal apparently get players back and Mayo have a decent midfield, that was about it and some chuckling about sheep, farcical.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RMDrive on September 17, 2012, 09:33:35 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on September 17, 2012, 09:25:24 PM
How could RTE label that 5 minute aside last night at the end of the show as a preview of the AIF? Donegal apparently get players back and Mayo have a decent midfield, that was about it and some chuckling about sheep, farcical.

I particularly liked the continuity between what the analyst was saying and the video clips being shown  ::). You'd swear that they threw it together in the 10 minutes before the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on September 17, 2012, 11:24:53 PM
I know the lads that quit the game years ago get plenty of slagging for being out of touch, but i've always thought that yer man dessie dolan was a bit of a spoofer considering he's a current player, like a future tony davis almost. Just sits up with a smily head on him saying nothing of note
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 17, 2012, 11:29:47 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on September 17, 2012, 11:24:53 PM
I know the lads that quit the game years ago get plenty of slagging for being out of touch, but i've always thought that yer man dessie dolan was a bit of a spoofer considering he's a current player, like a future tony davis almost. Just sits up with a smily head on him saying nothing of note

In fairness to Dessie, he has played for Donegal in the New York Championship. So he knew something about one of the two teams in the final.  :-X
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchardman on September 17, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
aye, seen he was out in boston playing with cass and the lads.

Say it again, mcstay is hard to beat, i think people are starting to realise that now. Hope martin carney is doing the game as well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 18, 2012, 03:21:59 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on September 17, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
aye, seen he was out in boston playing with cass and the lads.

Say it again, mcstay is hard to beat, i think people are starting to realise that now. Hope martin carney is doing the game as well

Ye won't have much of that gib when he single-handedly unseats the Power Rangers in deep mid-winter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mackers on September 18, 2012, 11:10:25 AM
I switched it off when Davis said that "Mayo would have to play well to beat Donegal"...................Christ on a bike, brutal stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Feckitt on September 18, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
I think it is a shame that the GAA have given the rights to TV3 for the minor final.  TV3 cannot be picked up on Sattelite TV in the North, and most people in the north cannot get it on analogue either.  When analogue is done away with next month then absolutely nobody in the North will get TV3.  Will they still be given matches?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 18, 2012, 12:05:06 PM
Of course they will. Use their website if you want to catch the minor match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on September 18, 2012, 12:56:57 PM
QuoteWhen analogue is done away with next month then absolutely nobody in the North will get TV3.

Not quite true. Those who are getting analogue at present are getting it from masts in the 26 counties and will still get TV3 on digital, indeed more will get it.

But there still remains a broader issue here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on September 18, 2012, 01:40:11 PM
Quote from: mackers on September 18, 2012, 11:10:25 AM
I switched it off when Davis said that "Mayo would have to play well to beat Donegal"...................Christ on a bike, brutal stuff.

I posted this a week or so ago.


Davis is an utter and complete clown, the most unprepared analyst I have ever seen. Did any of you see his patethic ramble last week, Whealan and Mchugh just stayed quite and let him dig himself a bigger hole to climb out of, comical to Say the least. Again, as they say, "he must have pictures on somebody", otherwise maybe he pays RTE to be on the show, hair and makeup included.

Mcstay is by far the best analyst, could smile now and again, as he does come across as a bit dour.



Did not see latest nonsense on Sunday game. Will not bother to view it. I cannot understand the sports powers to be at RTE, do they have any clue as to what the public think of the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ExiledGael on September 18, 2012, 03:45:54 PM
I don't like complaining about GAA coverage because but the preview was an embarrassment. Could have been put together by someone who has never even watched a game - "keeper's kick outs are good, defenders are tight, midfield is going well and forwards are getting scores, Mayo will have to play well to win". What on earth is the point?
It wouldn't be so bad except these are two of the most fascinating teams in the country in terms of preparation and tactics, especially given where they were in the recent past. Would it really be that hard to grab a little before and after footage, show what both managers have implemented since their arrival, how their gameplan works and what that could lead to on Sunday?
You'd get more insight from an alco down the local, inane rambling, especially Davis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2012, 09:15:29 AM
You'd get more insight from an alco down the local, especially Davis.

Jaysus I didn't know Davis was a wino. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ExiledGael on September 19, 2012, 07:31:34 PM
That would, at least, explain things
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on September 20, 2012, 07:51:17 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 04, 2012, 11:46:59 PM
Whatever happened to Tohill on TSG

He was sacked for not meeting his quota of idiotic cliches, refusing to be controversial for the sake of it, knowing what he was talking about and for having an IQ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bud Wiser on September 20, 2012, 08:02:12 PM
Did anyone notice the commentary with a minute to go in the chicks with sticks all ireland final.  Red faces all round but managed to cloud it out in the replay.  " another great score from Cork, that's two scores now  (or something like that) and when the teams go in at half time it will be the Cork team that have the bit between their teeth" except he got teeth confused with legs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
Is there no chairs that swivel in Sligo? O'Hara was having great craic with it last night. He seemed a bit nervous but did ok.

The "coverage" of the Leinster hurling games and the Weatmeath v Carlow game was pitiful, but to be expected.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 20, 2013, 06:00:02 PM
Brolly could shut up every now and again.
You can hear him yapping away to himself like a child when the other panellists are talking.
Very patronising towards Whelo as well.
"That's actually a really good point Ciaran!"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on May 20, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 20, 2013, 06:00:02 PM
Brolly could shut up every now and again.
You can hear him yapping away to himself like a child when the other panellists are talking.
Very patronising towards Whelo as well.
"That's actually a really good point Ciaran!"

Agree. His agreeing with Whelan was almost stating that the point had met Joes approval which should be seen as a tremendous achievement.
Personally I was disappointed for O'Hara. I find his voice hard to hear, but more importantly his points were pretty bland. I've heard him before and he's usually more opinionated.  Joe disagreed with him at one stage and he backed down straight away. Less of that Eamon son, fight back like yo did on the pitch for 20 years
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
Sure he's only a rookie. Is there any video of Broly in his first TSG season knocking about? It'd make interesting viewing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ranch on May 20, 2013, 07:36:23 PM
Brolly is the best pundit on TSG by far, at least he gives opinions.
Whelan also makes some good points. Canavan was good whilst on TV3.

Spillane has gone to f*ck over the years, just spouts cr*p.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 20, 2013, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: ranch on May 20, 2013, 07:36:23 PM
Brolly is the best pundit on TSG by far, at least he gives opinions.
Whelan also makes some good points. Canavan was good whilst on TV3.

Spillane has to f*ck over the years, just spouts cr*p.

It would be nice if TSG was actually about the Games and not the panelists.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 20, 2013, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: ranch on May 20, 2013, 07:36:23 PM
Brolly is the best pundit on TSG by far, at least he gives opinions.
Whelan also makes some good points. Canavan was good whilst on TV3.

Spillane has to f*ck over the years, just spouts cr*p.

It would be nice if TSG was actually about the Games and not the panelists.

+1. That's why the coverage suffers so badly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 20, 2013, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 07:20:52 PM
Sure he's only a rookie. Is there any video of Broly in his first TSG season knocking about? It'd make interesting viewing.

He was blowing kisses at Joe Lennon on his debut.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 26, 2013, 10:05:46 PM
O'Hara doesn't pull too many punches. Calling for Kevin Walsh's head AND having a row with Spillane already, he's made his mark tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 26, 2013, 10:06:47 PM
strong stuff from ohara there. fairly put the boot in walsh
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyroneboi on May 26, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
Excellent stuff from O'Hara so far.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 26, 2013, 10:16:45 PM
Ciaran Whelan face there was priceless as pat chirped on about cheap blankets , class!1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Jez, Spillane just would not let O'Hara or Whealan talk about the GPS that Tyrone were using. Poor form! It was one of those if you can't argue just shout him down! And as for the Blanket rant about Limerick..... jez!  :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on May 26, 2013, 10:22:45 PM
Blankets
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLOKCLwCcAEMFyY.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 26, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Awful trite light tabloidesque "analysis".
Be better if they just had highlights of the games and leave it at that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on May 26, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

It's time for everyone to brush up on their Gaeilge and hand it over to TG4.
Spillane didn't have a clue about gps but less of a clue how a proper blanket defence works. If he thinks Cork will run through Donegals defence or Kerry will play 2 long balls and they'll be in on goal then he is living in cloud cookoo land.
Then all we had was rushed through reports on the Leinster games and London/Sligo. More action, less Spillane is what's needed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 26, 2013, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

I think you've not been listening to the grapevine if you think that was an unfair assassination. O'Hara was pretty much dead on and will have the support of the vast majority of his county in what he said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Awful trite light tabloidesque "analysis".
Be better if they just had highlights of the games and leave it at that.
+1.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 26, 2013, 10:57:06 PM
If you haven't watched the game during the day the sunday game is a disaster as it misses half the scores. Spillane has not a clue what he's on about either. Leaving out good game time to listen to that. That blanket thing was embarrassing.

I wasn't that keen on the ohara thing. Those boys are meant to be objective analysts. Surely a boy like that should have enough influence that he could air that in house rather than airing that dirty linen in public.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 26, 2013, 10:52:11 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

I think you've not been listening to the grapevine if you think that was an unfair assassination. O'Hara was pretty much dead on and will have the support of the vast majority of his county in what he said.
I never said it was an unfair assassination,read my posts more closely,just an assassination! No analysis,no other point of view,no attempt at balance and no attempt to analyse London's first win in the Connacht Championship in thirty five years! An absolute disgrace in my opinion!!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 26, 2013, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on May 26, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

It's time for everyone to brush up on their Gaeilge and hand it over to TG4.
Spillane didn't have a clue about gps but less of a clue how a proper blanket defence works. If he thinks Cork will run through Donegals defence or Kerry will play 2 long balls and they'll be in on goal then he is living in cloud cookoo land.
Then all we had was rushed through reports on the Leinster games and London/Sligo. More action, less Spillane is what's needed.

Exactly, the cork no 7 and gooch would both have been fouled way out the field and the taking of the free delayed by any one of the top teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 26, 2013, 11:02:50 PM
TG4 aren't much better. SBB is the Connemara version of Pat Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 11:03:35 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Awful trite light tabloidesque "analysis".
Be better if they just had highlights of the games and leave it at that.
+1.

+2

Quote from: macdanger2 on May 26, 2013, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on May 26, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

It's time for everyone to brush up on their Gaeilge and hand it over to TG4.
Spillane didn't have a clue about gps but less of a clue how a proper blanket defence works. If he thinks Cork will run through Donegals defence or Kerry will play 2 long balls and they'll be in on goal then he is living in cloud cookoo land.
Then all we had was rushed through reports on the Leinster games and London/Sligo. More action, less Spillane is what's needed.

Exactly, the cork no 7 and gooch would both have been fouled way out the field and the taking of the free delayed by any one of the top teams.

It's Spillanes One trick pony The long ball into the Full Forwards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 26, 2013, 11:14:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 11:03:35 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Awful trite light tabloidesque "analysis".
Be better if they just had highlights of the games and leave it at that.
+1.

+2

Quote from: macdanger2 on May 26, 2013, 11:00:34 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on May 26, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

It's time for everyone to brush up on their Gaeilge and hand it over to TG4.
Spillane didn't have a clue about gps but less of a clue how a proper blanket defence works. If he thinks Cork will run through Donegals defence or Kerry will play 2 long balls and they'll be in on goal then he is living in cloud cookoo land.
Then all we had was rushed through reports on the Leinster games and London/Sligo. More action, less Spillane is what's needed.

Exactly, the cork no 7 and gooch would both have been fouled way out the field and the taking of the free delayed by any one of the top teams.

It's Spillanes One trick pony The long ball into the Full Forwards.

A one trick pony on an analysis show is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 26, 2013, 11:17:19 PM
This oul moderrin game is fierce complicated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 26, 2013, 11:17:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Awful trite light tabloidesque "analysis".
Be better if they just had highlights of the games and leave it at that.
+ 3

Spillane with highlights on how to beat the blanket defence when Tipperary,Limerick didn't use or know how to use one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 11:19:05 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on May 26, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 10:40:10 PM
Have to say, I'm coming round to Paul Grimley's point of view; two weeks, two public stonings.No analysis of the London-Sligo match,just an assassination of a current manager by a former player!Our game deserves much better.I look forward to the day when another channel is in a position to compete with RTE!!!!!

It's time for everyone to brush up on their Gaeilge and hand it over to TG4.
Spillane didn't have a clue about gps but less of a clue how a proper blanket defence works. If he thinks Cork will run through Donegals defence or Kerry will play 2 long balls and they'll be in on goal then he is living in cloud cookoo land.
Then all we had was rushed through reports on the Leinster games and London/Sligo. More action, less Spillane is what's needed.
I think it's too late for me to brush up, I would happily watch with my cupla focal,wish I didn't understand bearla at times!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: babarino on May 26, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
Poor performance tonight by the panel. Brolly, O'Rourke and Kevin Mc Stay are RTE's best pundits. You have to put county allegiances aside when analysing games and O'Hara shouldn't have used his inside knowledge of Sligo to have a go at Kevin Walsh.

Putting on the county blinkers and match analysis don't go together. Pundits all do it at some stage...even the good ones, which is why they shouldn't be given a soap box to comment on games involving their county.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 26, 2013, 11:38:57 PM
Quote from: babarino on May 26, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
Poor performance tonight by the panel. Brolly, O'Rourke and Kevin Mc Stay are RTE's best pundits. You have to put county allegiances aside when analysing games and O'Hara shouldn't have used his inside knowledge of Sligo to have a go at Kevin Walsh.

Putting on the county blinkers and match analysis don't go together. Pundits all do it at some stage...even the good ones, which is why they shouldn't be given a soap box to comment on games involving their county.
Giants among dwarves!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Jez, Spillane just would not let O'Hara or Whealan talk about the GPS that Tyrone were using. Poor form! It was one of those if you can't argue just shout him down! And as for the Blanket rant about Limerick..... jez!  :-[
I didn't see the program, wtf is this GPS thing you mention?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 26, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Jez, Spillane just would not let O'Hara or Whealan talk about the GPS that Tyrone were using. Poor form! It was one of those if you can't argue just shout him down! And as for the Blanket rant about Limerick..... jez!  :-[
I didn't see the program, wtf is this GPS thing you mention?

Conor Gromley has one on his ankle so he doesn't break bail  :-X
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on May 27, 2013, 12:03:34 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 26, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Jez, Spillane just would not let O'Hara or Whealan talk about the GPS that Tyrone were using. Poor form! It was one of those if you can't argue just shout him down! And as for the Blanket rant about Limerick..... jez!  :-[
I didn't see the program, wtf is this GPS thing you mention?
Spillane came across a bit like yourself, he did see the programmme though!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on May 27, 2013, 12:18:34 AM
Fair play to O'Hara for exposing the BS that's going on in Sligo. It can be seen as sour grapes but he knew the info so he stated it. Fair play to him.

As for Spillane givi g out about lads wearing GPS systems. Pat is so far out of touch its unreal. He's still stuck in the 70's when the good ole days produced fancy free football and world peace prevailed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 27, 2013, 12:29:19 AM
Before he was interrupted, Spillane probably had a punchline that GPS meant 'Go Pat Spillane'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: ck on May 27, 2013, 12:18:34 AM
Fair play to O'Hara for exposing the BS that's going on in Sligo. It can be seen as sour grapes but he knew the info so he stated it. Fair play to him.

As for Spillane givi g out about lads wearing GPS systems. Pat is so far out of touch its unreal. He's still stuck in the 70's when the good ole days produced fancy free football and world peace prevailed

So you're saying he should stop Moyna-ing and get with the times?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 27, 2013, 12:34:43 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 26, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 26, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Jez, Spillane just would not let O'Hara or Whealan talk about the GPS that Tyrone were using. Poor form! It was one of those if you can't argue just shout him down! And as for the Blanket rant about Limerick..... jez!  :-[
I didn't see the program, wtf is this GPS thing you mention?

Conor Gromley has one on his ankle so he doesn't break bail  :-X
;D
So it's not that Mickey needs the technology to find out where his players are on the pitch?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on May 27, 2013, 11:17:14 AM
If memory serves me right the highlights failed to show SoN's and Matty Donnelly's peaches of scores from the left wing in the first half. Instead we got Spillane talking over the other two boys for 30secs not even allowing them to rebuke his verbal diarrhea.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 27, 2013, 11:20:44 AM
Is the GPS the reason why one of the Tyrone lads was wearing a sports bra or do they all wear them anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 27, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
It's not manly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
I didn't watch the Sunday Witch Hunt this weekend.

But I am disappointed to see reports that a footballer I have long admired, called for the resignation of another footballer I used to admire when he played, from the armchair of the weekly Sunday Rant. He may have been correct in everything he said, but National TV is not the place to knife a man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 27, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
Whats this about the blanket?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tommysmith on May 27, 2013, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
I didn't watch the Sunday Witch Hunt this weekend.

But I am disappointed to see reports that a footballer I have long admired, called for the resignation of another footballer I used to admire when he played, from the armchair of the weekly Sunday Rant. He may have been correct in everything he said, but National TV is not the place to knife a man.

True but he only responded to a question he was asked.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
Ye are so wrong on this guys, trust me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on May 27, 2013, 02:43:43 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 02:42:14 PM
Ye are so wrong on this guys, trust me.

I don't doubt that Walsh has royally fcuked up and that Eamon O'Hara wasn't 100% right in what he was saying. I just don't think the Sunday Game was the place to air those grievances.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 27, 2013, 02:58:40 PM
If O'Hara had went to town like that on Micky Harte or another high profile manager he would be out of a job today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2013, 02:59:02 PM
I would agree.

There are bound to be other forums to air this in.

I know reading some of the crap in the Irish News about boys who are off the panel coming out and complaining about the antrim manager is embarassing.

Though the other journalists, like Des Cahill, are putting boys in this position.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 03:01:28 PM
There is as a total a disconnect as I have ever seen between the reception by people this actually effects and those looking in on a Sunday night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on May 27, 2013, 03:03:27 PM
Thought O'Hara's response was measured & obviously truthful, didn't think it was vindictive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:03:40 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 27, 2013, 02:58:40 PM
If O'Hara had went to town like that on Micky Harte or another high profile manager he would be out of a job today.

I doubt that. Mickey Harte doesn't even talk to RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 03:05:11 PM
Seanie, I respect your opinions on this site and if you and the other genuine Sligo contributors say something is seriously wrong then I will believe it.

I also have tremendous respect what O'Hara has done for his county. His gravitas within the game is undisputed and that is why he quickly went from retirement to being a pundit on TSG.

O'Hara may have made the right call, but it is not the place to do it. Even the Cork strikers and the Mayo car pushers didn't have such a public platform to campaign from, and yet I am fairly sure (certain in the case of Mayo) that they regretted the very public and thus personal nature of their statements.

In a couple of years, if not months, when the heat has gone out of the moment I suspect he will have regrets.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
Is this simply a case of the Sligo public backing one of their own against an 'outsider'. It can't help Walsh that he is an outsider and O'Hara is a Sligo hero when it comes to gaining support from the Sligo public. From the outside, maybe Walsh has stayed on a year too long but he didn't deserve the public execution.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
Is this simply a case of the Sligo public backing one of their own against an 'outsider'. It can't help Walsh that he is an outsider and O'Hara is a Sligo hero when it comes to gaining support from the Sligo public. From the outside, maybe Walsh has stayed on a year too long but he didn't deserve the public execution.

I think you've missed the point entirely, Yellowcard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
Is this simply a case of the Sligo public backing one of their own against an 'outsider'. It can't help Walsh that he is an outsider and O'Hara is a Sligo hero when it comes to gaining support from the Sligo public. From the outside, maybe Walsh has stayed on a year too long but he didn't deserve the public execution.

I think you've missed the point entirely, Yellowcard.

Which is.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 04:00:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
Is this simply a case of the Sligo public backing one of their own against an 'outsider'. It can't help Walsh that he is an outsider and O'Hara is a Sligo hero when it comes to gaining support from the Sligo public. From the outside, maybe Walsh has stayed on a year too long but he didn't deserve the public execution.

I think you've missed the point entirely, Yellowcard.

Which is.....

Walsh is only a symptom of the problem. He should have been gone long ago. This is a Sligo problem that actually very few Sligo people even realise. I'm not one bit shocked we lost this game. The stories I could tell - people would just not believe.

The days of "behind closed doors" and "smokey rooms" need to be gone. We can't afford to get anything wrong in Sligo with the natural disadvantages we have yet we get very little right. Put everything out on the table and BE HONEST. No-one should have any problem with that. Footballers who are not honest get found out soon enough. Administrators who are not honest seem to thrive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 03:05:11 PM
Seanie, I respect your opinions on this site and if you and the other genuine Sligo contributors say something is seriously wrong then I will believe it.

I also have tremendous respect what O'Hara has done for his county. His gravitas within the game is undisputed and that is why he quickly went from retirement to being a pundit on TSG.

O'Hara may have made the right call, but it is not the place to do it. Even the Cork strikers and the Mayo car pushers didn't have such a public platform to campaign from, and yet I am fairly sure (certain in the case of Mayo) that they regretted the very public and thus personal nature of their statements.

In a couple of years, if not months, when the heat has gone out of the moment I suspect he will have regrets.

We need the spotlight to make sure the right things are done. Stuff happens openly in Sligo that would be massive scandal in other counties because those behind it get away with it. A bit of time under the microscope is no harm. If people have nothnig to hide - then what's the problem?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on May 27, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Stuff happens openly in Sligo that would be massive scandal
what is going on
loads of hint in tha various threads but no details . and if its in the ope surely its no problem to tell it.
can't be worse than mayo appoiting a manager for political purposes
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on May 27, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 04:00:39 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 27, 2013, 03:07:22 PM
Is this simply a case of the Sligo public backing one of their own against an 'outsider'. It can't help Walsh that he is an outsider and O'Hara is a Sligo hero when it comes to gaining support from the Sligo public. From the outside, maybe Walsh has stayed on a year too long but he didn't deserve the public execution.

I think you've missed the point entirely, Yellowcard.

Which is.....

Walsh is only a symptom of the problem. He should have been gone long ago. This is a Sligo problem that actually very few Sligo people even realise. I'm not one bit shocked we lost this game. The stories I could tell - people would just not believe.

The days of "behind closed doors" and "smokey rooms" need to be gone. We can't afford to get anything wrong in Sligo with the natural disadvantages we have yet we get very little right. Put everything out on the table and BE HONEST. No-one should have any problem with that. Footballers who are not honest get found out soon enough. Administrators who are not honest seem to thrive.

Ive heard this said very often and directed at County boards. The only reason it prevails is that there is plenty of willing bodies to take the place of the footballer but few to step into the shoes of the Administrators, no matter how bad or no matter what has gone on in the past year. I've seen it in Monaghan over the last 2/3 years, where enough muck has been thrown at the CB, some of it had to stick. Yet, when congress comes around, they haven't been challenged at any level, no one wants the job.

People often say that those who sit at County Board level, have often been chased from their own clubs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 27, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Stuff happens openly in Sligo that would be massive scandal
what is going on
loads of hint in tha various threads but no details . and if its in the ope surely its no problem to tell it.
can't be worse than mayo appoiting a manager for political purposes

If I went into detail about it I would be saying things directly about individuals that I couldn't prove in a court of law. Everyone would know it was true, or knows it's true, cos it is true but I'm not going there. I'd tell you to your face if you wanted to meet me some time.

It is rotten from the top down and anyone trying to do a decent job gets caught in the crossfire.

Contradict me if you like but it's amazing how you'd be so strong with zero evidence to back it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 27, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 27, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Stuff happens openly in Sligo that would be massive scandal
what is going on
loads of hint in tha various threads but no details . and if its in the ope surely its no problem to tell it.
can't be worse than mayo appoiting a manager for political purposes

If I went into detail about it I would be saying things directly about individuals that I couldn't prove in a court of law. Everyone would know it was true, or knows it's true, cos it is true but I'm not going there. I'd tell you to your face if you wanted to meet me some time.

It is rotten from the top down and anyone trying to do a decent job gets caught in the crossfire.

Contradict me if you like but it's amazing how you'd be so strong with zero evidence to back it.

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 27, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Stuff happens openly in Sligo that would be massive scandal
what is going on
loads of hint in tha various threads but no details . and if its in the ope surely its no problem to tell it.
can't be worse than mayo appoiting a manager for political purposes

If I went into detail about it I would be saying things directly about individuals that I couldn't prove in a court of law. Everyone would know it was true, or knows it's true, cos it is true but I'm not going there. I'd tell you to your face if you wanted to meet me some time.

It is rotten from the top down and anyone trying to do a decent job gets caught in the crossfire.

Contradict me if you like but it's amazing how you'd be so strong with zero evidence to back it.

The reason I don't think the Sunday Game was the place for this is simply as follows.

Magpie Seanie and Sligonian are pointing a very critical finger at the CB. I know that at least one of them and almost certainly both are well qualified to make such an observation. I don't dispute what they or O'Hara has to on that subject.

However the message from the Sunday Game will come from the lower part of the brow and will be personalised in the general media as an attack on Walsh and little else:

RTE - O'Hara calls on Sligo boss to fall on sword (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0526/452852-ohara-calls-on-sligo-boss-to-fall-on-sword/)
HoganStand - O'Hara calls on Walsh to step down (http://hoganstand.com/football/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=193045)
Examiner - McConville: O'Hara has 'personal axe to grind' with Sligo boss Walsh (http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/mcconville-ohara-has-personal-axe-to-grind-with-sligo-boss-walsh-595723.html)
Joe.ie - Monday Morning Corner Back: O'Hara tears into Walsh (http://www.joe.ie/gaa/the-championship/monday-morning-corner-back-ohara-tears-into-walshobriain-on-the-sunday-game-and-prediction-woes-0038278-1)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:16:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 27, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 27, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
Stuff happens openly in Sligo that would be massive scandal
what is going on
loads of hint in tha various threads but no details . and if its in the ope surely its no problem to tell it.
can't be worse than mayo appoiting a manager for political purposes

If I went into detail about it I would be saying things directly about individuals that I couldn't prove in a court of law. Everyone would know it was true, or knows it's true, cos it is true but I'm not going there. I'd tell you to your face if you wanted to meet me some time.

It is rotten from the top down and anyone trying to do a decent job gets caught in the crossfire.

Contradict me if you like but it's amazing how you'd be so strong with zero evidence to back it.

The reason I don't think the Sunday Game was the place for this is simply as follows.

Magpie Seanie and Sligonian are pointing a very critical finger at the CB. I know that at least one of them and almost certainly both are well qualified to make such an observation. I don't dispute what they or O'Hara has to on that subject.

However the message from the Sunday Game will come from the lower part of the brow and will be personalised in the general media as an attack on Walsh and little else:

RTE - O'Hara calls on Sligo boss to fall on sword (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2013/0526/452852-ohara-calls-on-sligo-boss-to-fall-on-sword/)
HoganStand - O'Hara calls on Walsh to step down (http://hoganstand.com/football/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=193045)
Examiner - McConville: O'Hara has 'personal axe to grind' with Sligo boss Walsh (http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/mcconville-ohara-has-personal-axe-to-grind-with-sligo-boss-walsh-595723.html)
Joe.ie - Monday Morning Corner Back: O'Hara tears into Walsh (http://www.joe.ie/gaa/the-championship/monday-morning-corner-back-ohara-tears-into-walshobriain-on-the-sunday-game-and-prediction-woes-0038278-1)

The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 27, 2013, 05:45:47 PM
WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING IN SLIGO????!!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
TSG is turning into a real soap opera. Leave it aht Joe. Anyone goes near sligo I swear I'll do time sez Eamon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?

Nope, and I think it's clear he's going to be a big loser when all the dust settles. This seems to have been a moment that's been building in Sligo GAA for some time now and the county can't worry about Walsh's reputation if it's going to make in-roads in improving things.

Given how a lot of places (and people) are running down O'Hara, Walsh might find some sympathetic ears when he can talk frankly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?

Nope, and I think it's clear he's going to be a big loser when all the dust settles. This seems to have been a moment that's been building in Sligo GAA for some time now and the county can't worry about Walsh's reputation if it's going to make in-roads in improving things.

Given how a lot of places (and people) are running down O'Hara, Walsh might find some sympathetic ears when he can talk frankly.

If O'Hara is representing the truth, which the reliable Sligo lads on here insist is the case, then imho Walsh's position is now completely untenable. If he is smart he will step aside this week. Then what?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 27, 2013, 06:44:31 PM
The problem I have with this is that Eamonn O'Hara was given a platform on National TV to have a pop at a manager and county board. He is supposed to be a pundit, analysing things. Instead he used an RTE provided soapbox to have a lash out. This was not an analyst, this was a frustrated player ranting at the management and county board, and using a position on the Sunday Game to do so. I don't think that's right.

I don't really blame O'Hara but I think it's just another example of TSG looking for sensationalism and controversy rather than actual analysis.

He's probably 100% in what he said by the way, if Seanie and a couple of others here say so, then I believe it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?

Nope, and I think it's clear he's going to be a big loser when all the dust settles. This seems to have been a moment that's been building in Sligo GAA for some time now and the county can't worry about Walsh's reputation if it's going to make in-roads in improving things.

Given how a lot of places (and people) are running down O'Hara, Walsh might find some sympathetic ears when he can talk frankly.

If O'Hara is representing the truth, which the reliable Sligo lads on here insist is the case, then imho Walsh's position is now completely untenable. If he is smart he will step aside this week. Then what?

Depends on the pressure clubs put on the county board, I guess. O'Hara as a player-manager seems an intriguing choice as a care-taker for the rest of the season, though he's obviously set the bridge with the county board burning after last night.

Does Walsh have a bit of Banty in him, though?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?

Nope, and I think it's clear he's going to be a big loser when all the dust settles. This seems to have been a moment that's been building in Sligo GAA for some time now and the county can't worry about Walsh's reputation if it's going to make in-roads in improving things.

Given how a lot of places (and people) are running down O'Hara, Walsh might find some sympathetic ears when he can talk frankly.

If O'Hara is representing the truth, which the reliable Sligo lads on here insist is the case, then imho Walsh's position is now completely untenable. If he is smart he will step aside this week. Then what?

Depends on the pressure clubs put on the county board, I guess. O'Hara as a player-manager seems an intriguing choice as a care-taker for the rest of the season, though he's obviously set the bridge with the county board burning after last night.

Does Walsh have a bit of Banty in him, though?

This cannot happen now, after he spoke out on TSG, surely you can see that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:59:51 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?

Nope, and I think it's clear he's going to be a big loser when all the dust settles. This seems to have been a moment that's been building in Sligo GAA for some time now and the county can't worry about Walsh's reputation if it's going to make in-roads in improving things.

Given how a lot of places (and people) are running down O'Hara, Walsh might find some sympathetic ears when he can talk frankly.

If O'Hara is representing the truth, which the reliable Sligo lads on here insist is the case, then imho Walsh's position is now completely untenable. If he is smart he will step aside this week. Then what?

Depends on the pressure clubs put on the county board, I guess. O'Hara as a player-manager seems an intriguing choice as a care-taker for the rest of the season, though he's obviously set the bridge with the county board burning after last night.

Does Walsh have a bit of Banty in him, though?

This cannot happen now, after he spoke out on TSG, surely you can see that?

Hence the part after what you bolded  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:59:51 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:46:26 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
The question is if it gets the job done inside of Sligo of highlighting and focusing minds on the problems in the county why should they care how others perceive O'Hara's reaction?


You like the idea of nationally scapegoating Kevin Walsh, when at worst he is only a part of a bigger problem?

Nope, and I think it's clear he's going to be a big loser when all the dust settles. This seems to have been a moment that's been building in Sligo GAA for some time now and the county can't worry about Walsh's reputation if it's going to make in-roads in improving things.

Given how a lot of places (and people) are running down O'Hara, Walsh might find some sympathetic ears when he can talk frankly.

If O'Hara is representing the truth, which the reliable Sligo lads on here insist is the case, then imho Walsh's position is now completely untenable. If he is smart he will step aside this week. Then what?

Depends on the pressure clubs put on the county board, I guess. O'Hara as a player-manager seems an intriguing choice as a care-taker for the rest of the season, though he's obviously set the bridge with the county board burning after last night.

Does Walsh have a bit of Banty in him, though?

This cannot happen now, after he spoke out on TSG, surely you can see that?

Hence the part after what you bolded  :o

More than that, every player rebellion will see a star player appear on TSG panel airing their grievances if that happens.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 27, 2013, 07:38:47 PM
I have some sympathy for Walsh mainly given that O'Hara chose his words poorly and also in the forum he chose to do it.

Hanging a man in such a personal way on prime time tv is a cold thing to do.

In saying that I would say that managers have to live by their decisions and as Mayo and James Horan know all too well it's a fine line between success and failure. When failure does arrive you have to factor in the size of the failure itself.

Losing to London a few years back would have been a massive upset  but given their improvement over the last while I wouldn't regard yesterday as a huge upset.

Sligo need to dust themselves down now for the qualifiers and get on with it and take the back door route. I'd say there was a better chance Walsh leaving if O'Hara kept his trap shut than there is now. He will probably stay on now out of spite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 27, 2013, 07:38:47 PM
I have some sympathy for Walsh mainly given that O'Hara chose his words poorly and also in the forum he chose to do it.

Hanging a man in such a personal way on prime time tv is a cold thing to do.

In saying that I would say that managers have to live by their decisions and as Mayo and James Horan know all too well it's a fine line between success and failure. When failure does arrive you have to factor in the size of the failure itself.

Losing to London a few years back would have been a massive upset  but given their improvement over the last while I wouldn't regard yesterday as a huge upset.

Sligo need to dust themselves down now for the qualifiers and get on with it and take the back door route. I'd say there was a better chance Walsh leaving if O'Hara kept his trap shut than there is now. He will probably stay on now out of spite.

Absolutely not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on May 27, 2013, 08:05:29 PM
O'Hara seems to have really taken to the job RTE have given him. He has everyone talking about this which is what they want.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 27, 2013, 08:16:12 PM
well better that than another joe show this week!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 08:31:08 PM
Really surprised by how many here are criticising O'Hara. When I read some of the comments I thought he must really have done a job on Walsh but having seen the clip I can't see what all the fuss is about. He gave a reasoned, honest answer to the question posed, i.e. what he should do as an analyst. If he wasn't willing to elaborate on the one county which he would have genuine knowledge of then he shouldn't be there at all. I didn't think he was harsh on Walsh either as a lot of Sligo folk were saying the same thing beforehand. I doubt O'Hara will have regrets over his comments for the simple reason the were reasoned and spoken without malice IMO.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
I've no doubt he has his own agenda but that's true of us all. His experiences of Walsh may not have been positive but I didn't feel he was kicking a man when he was down simple because he had the chance, I just thought he was being honest and he stated that Kevin had the right to seek full commitment and to recall Kilcullen. I really didn't feel he was knifing a man on national TV but was simply calling it he saw it and that is what he should do IMO.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on May 27, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
People are looking into his criticism of Walsh a bit much, there will be plenty of red faces in the Sligo Co board because they got the dig - and maybe rightly so. A new Centre of Excellence not near complete and work has stalled, people resigning from the County board. O Hara is passionate about his county and fair play, Walsh has been there 5/6 years,. Maybe he hung in there a year too long, and things got a bit lax this year.

Walsh was suppose to be lining up other jobs at the end of last year too, which hardly went down well either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on May 27, 2013, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 27, 2013, 06:44:31 PM
The problem I have with this is that Eamonn O'Hara was given a platform on National TV to have a pop at a manager and county board. He is supposed to be a pundit, analysing things. Instead he used an RTE provided soapbox to have a lash out. This was not an analyst, this was a frustrated player ranting at the management and county board, and using a position on the Sunday Game to do so. I don't think that's right.

I don't really blame O'Hara but I think it's just another example of TSG looking for sensationalism and controversy rather than actual analysis.

He's probably 100% in what he said by the way, if Seanie and a couple of others here say so, then I believe it.

How was it not analysis? He gave a solid insight and analysis of Sligo football. Would you rather him blame the goalkeepers poor kickouts or the lack of ability to win break ball? Or do you want him to share the home truths he knows to be true as to why we lost?

Fair play to Eamon O'Hara. He speaks out for the betterment of Sligo football and speaks for many Sligo GAA people in the process
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
Quote from: ck on May 27, 2013, 09:29:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 27, 2013, 06:44:31 PM
The problem I have with this is that Eamonn O'Hara was given a platform on National TV to have a pop at a manager and county board. He is supposed to be a pundit, analysing things. Instead he used an RTE provided soapbox to have a lash out. This was not an analyst, this was a frustrated player ranting at the management and county board, and using a position on the Sunday Game to do so. I don't think that's right.

I don't really blame O'Hara but I think it's just another example of TSG looking for sensationalism and controversy rather than actual analysis.

He's probably 100% in what he said by the way, if Seanie and a couple of others here say so, then I believe it.

How was it not analysis? He gave a solid insight and analysis of Sligo football. Would you rather him blame the goalkeepers poor kickouts or the lack of ability to win break ball? Or do you want him to share the home truths he knows to be true as to why we lost?

Fair play to Eamon O'Hara. He speaks out for the betterment of Sligo football and speaks for many Sligo GAA people in the process[/b

O'Hara lowered the blade and forgot that the gig is to provide football analysis not whining about the inner workings of Sligo GAA from his perspective.   Failed completely in his first big test on TV.  Wasn't helped by Cahill who continues to look Junior B standard. Anyway far too much talk on Sunday Game and not enough action from the games not covered live.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
The quality of preparation is a relevant factor in how a team performs so I don't see why that should have been ignored in the post match analysis. I don't know if O'Hara is correct in his assessment of Walsh but from reading the Sligo boys here he is so it is relevant when analysing what happened.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 27, 2013, 10:10:54 PM
It was personal and non objective. It wasn't really about the match either.

It was Des Cahill's fault really. He set it up. O'Hara was just honest in his answer.

It's high time Spillane was sacked and it's also time they stuck to proper analysis and less of the controversy. There's barely one of them boys capable of doing some proper non half assed objective analysis of a game. That clip where they picked on McNiece was ridiculous. The left half back was doing nothing on the left side of defense to combat a boy making a strong run down that same side but sure it's the left half forwards fault.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
The quality of preparation is a relevant factor in how a team performs so I don't see why that should have been ignored in the post match analysis. I don't know if O'Hara is correct in his assessment of Walsh but from reading the Sligo boys here he is so it is relevant when analysing what happened.

It is a factor but analysis requires facts to be assembled in a disinterested way - anyway most of what he had to say was not analysis but not missing an opportunity to get the boot into Walsh. Saying he should resign has nothing to do with analysis. If there was a Galway panelist on last week would he be right if he knifed Mullholland. Should every county have their own panelist on TSG to provide the inside analysis!!!

O'Hara was a great footballer but he has a bit of growing up to do yet at 36.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
No analysis is non objective to some degree and when it's your own county it's less so. I agree entirely re Spillane, truly awful stuff from him as usual.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on May 27, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
The quality of preparation is a relevant factor in how a team performs so I don't see why that should have been ignored in the post match analysis. I don't know if O'Hara is correct in his assessment of Walsh but from reading the Sligo boys here he is so it is relevant when analysing what happened.

i don't agree. It was the wrong forum to do it and to me as a neutral he came across poorly

Had he kept the tenet of the conversation simply to what you describe I'd have agreed but it began and ended with him.

I don't doubt the misgivings of the Sligo posters here on Walsh but the conversation should have stuck to its brief and left him out of it.

the fact that it didn't meant that people today are talking about him not being there rather then the poor preparation of the team,

I'll leave it up to posters to decide which is more important. I think it was an opportunity missed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
The quality of preparation is a relevant factor in how a team performs so I don't see why that should have been ignored in the post match analysis. I don't know if O'Hara is correct in his assessment of Walsh but from reading the Sligo boys here he is so it is relevant when analysing what happened.

It is a factor but analysis requires facts to be assembled in a disinterested way - anyway most of what he had to say was not analysis but not missing an opportunity to get the boot into Walsh. Saying he should resign has nothing to do with analysis. If there was a Galway panelist on last week would he be right if he knifed Mullholland. Should every county have their own panelist on TSG to provide the inside analysis!!!

O'Hara was a great footballer but he has a bit of growing up to do yet at 36.

But it appears Sligo are a shambles under Walsh so it is relevant to their performance. Walsh is the manager of an IC team so he has accept he can be criticised, as do we. Mullholland isn't there long enough but if they showed no sign of improvement next and took another tanking then it would be perfectly reasonable to question his position. Anyway, I didn't think O'Hara put the boot in and referenced more than Walsh in his analysis. The selection and tactics are wrong too by all accounts and if true Walsh has to shoulder much of the blame.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 27, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
The quality of preparation is a relevant factor in how a team performs so I don't see why that should have been ignored in the post match analysis. I don't know if O'Hara is correct in his assessment of Walsh but from reading the Sligo boys here he is so it is relevant when analysing what happened.

i don't agree. It was the wrong forum to do it and to me as a neutral he came across poorly

Had he kept the tenet of the conversation simply to what you describe I'd have agreed but it began and ended with him.

I don't doubt the misgivings of the Sligo posters here on Walsh but the conversation should have stuck to its brief and left him out of it.

the fact that it didn't meant that people today are talking about him not being there rather then the poor preparation of the team,

I'll leave it up to posters to decide which is more important. I think it was an opportunity missed

I don't see how it was the incorrect forum, it was on a program meant to analyse GAA. CB structures and management obviously feed into IC performances,  if they are substandard surely it is reasonable to reference that. Sligo don't have the players to win an All Ireland but they do have plenty to beat London I would suspect so getting beat does raise questions. Walsh isn't working with disadvantaged kids, he is a big boy managing in a high profile sport so when his team get beaten by the weakest team in the competition then it's fair to question his position IMO and that's what O'Hara did.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on May 27, 2013, 10:30:46 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:26:11 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 27, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 09:59:31 PM
The quality of preparation is a relevant factor in how a team performs so I don't see why that should have been ignored in the post match analysis. I don't know if O'Hara is correct in his assessment of Walsh but from reading the Sligo boys here he is so it is relevant when analysing what happened.

i don't agree. It was the wrong forum to do it and to me as a neutral he came across poorly

Had he kept the tenet of the conversation simply to what you describe I'd have agreed but it began and ended with him.

I don't doubt the misgivings of the Sligo posters here on Walsh but the conversation should have stuck to its brief and left him out of it.

the fact that it didn't meant that people today are talking about him not being there rather then the poor preparation of the team,

I'll leave it up to posters to decide which is more important. I think it was an opportunity missed

I don't see how it was the incorrect forum, it was on a program meant to analyse GAA. CB structures and management obviously feed into IC performances,  if they are substandard surely it is reasonable to reference that. Sligo don't have the players to win an All Ireland but they do have plenty to beat London I would suspect so getting beat does raise questions. Walsh isn't working with disadvantaged kids, he is a big boy managing in a high profile sport so when his team get beaten by the weakest team in the competition then it's fair to question his position IMO and that's what O'Hara did.

You haven't once answered any posters misgivings on the subject.

National TV is not an appropriate forum for an individual to raise the issue of himself not being selected on an analysis show. The other individual didn't have the right of reply

Nobody disagrees on anything else you've said. He's entitled to raise all the issues you mention but he is not entitled in my view to use the analysis section as his own soapbox as to why/why not he wasn't selected
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
QuoteBut it appears Sligo are a shambles under Walsh

Beat Galway last year and ran us to a couple of points in CF. Hardly a shambles then. Any the point is that problems with management and preparations are part of analysis when the person doing the analysis is somewhat objective. O'Hara has the gig because he is supposed to analyse what he sees on the field - not because he can bring biased tittle tattle. TSG is a national programme and the pundits are supposed to be able to leave county loyalties and grudges aside.

I'll leave it if you don't understand analysis or the role of a pundit or are too loyal to recently retired players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 27, 2013, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
No analysis is non objective to some degree and when it's your own county it's less so. I agree entirely re Spillane, truly awful stuff from him as usual.

You're dead when Hardy gets here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:53:47 PM
QuoteNobody disagrees on anything else you've said. He's entitled to raise all the issues you mention but he is not entitled in my view to use the analysis section as his own soapbox as to why/why not he wasn't selected

He was asked why he wasn't there, he said he couldn't give the commitment asked by Walsh so it was fair enough for Walsh not to pick him. All very uncontroversial IMO and nothing that I would feel Walsh would be overly upset about.

QuoteI'll leave it if you don't understand analysis or the role of a pundit or are too loyal to recently retired players.

Are you saying that of me? I'm not a Sligo man so I couldn't care less about O'Hara beyond his analysis which I thought was poor the first night but was honest and reasoned last night.

QuoteBeat Galway last year and ran us to a couple of points in CF. Hardly a shambles then.

Counties can improve/disimprove from year to year and beating Galway is hardly a sign of rude health. I don't know anything about Sligo but none of the Sligo posters here disagree with O'Hara so it seems fair to accept all is far from well behind the scenes.

QuoteO'Hara has the gig because he is supposed to analyse what he sees on the field - not because he can bring biased tittle tattle

No he's not. He's meant to assess games on what he knows about the game overall. To accept your view then if O'Hara knew a guy was sick all week and played poorly he shouldn't say the guy was very ill all week but should simply say the guy was useless today and not inform us of any off field reasons he was poor. Now I accept he shouldn't yell us he is having marital issues or something like that but that would be non-football stuff, the merits of a manager are not out of bounds.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 27, 2013, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 10:15:02 PM
No analysis is non objective to some degree and when it's your own county it's less so. I agree entirely re Spillane, truly awful stuff from him as usual.

You're dead when Hardy gets here.

it dont reed wel, know doubt,,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 27, 2013, 11:11:46 PM
We looking at a tag team match up with natural disasters Paul Grimley and Kevin Walsh up against willow the wisp motor mouth Joe brolly and the shoot from the hip sligo legend O`Hara. Spillane to referee. lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 11:18:13 PM
QuoteQuote
I'll leave it if you don't understand analysis or the role of a pundit or are too loyal to recently retired players.

Are you saying that of me? I'm not a Sligo man so I couldn't care less about O'Hara beyond his analysis which I thought was poor the first night but was honest and reasoned last night.

Yes - saying it of you. Did not think you were from Sligo but you did seem intent on defending   O'Hara's call for Walshe's resignation " as analysis"!! And you seem to miss the point that O'Hara is on the TSG panel as a national pundit andit is not a  forum for him to address the ills of Sligo football. The lad just let his own ego get in the way of the job he was supposed to be doing. As I said not helped by the question from Cahill.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2013, 11:21:46 PM
Aye, the lad who hasn't a clue about the situation is right while the man from the county is the edjit. C'mon guys, step up your game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2013, 11:29:43 PM
How long is Spillane doing this gig now? His number is has to be up soon! We get little or no personal statistical analysis. Any Stats are got from newspapers etc. He follows the traditional view of counties.  He is clearly being left behind by Brolly, McStay and O'Rourke. He is clearly stuck in a time warp of 70's GAA, dreaming of High fetching, Long balls into the full forward line, 1-3-3-2-3-3 formations, Ulster Counties being the nice counties that come to Croker for the day out. Ah i could go on. Last nights remarks regarding GPS and Blanket defenses. The week before's remark that Mayo should have beaten Galway by 10 goals - 80 points to prove they were a top team!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on May 27, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
O'Hara kicked a man when he's down. And he had the benefit of the national media to do so. How was last year "papering over the cracks" ? They beat Galway (yes I know they're poor at the moment but they're still Galway) and they ran a powerful ultimately AI runner up Mayo side to a narrow margin in the Connacht final.

O'Hara was one of my favourite players and has the makings of a decent analysist (and I agree its time to pension of Spillane) but I was disappointed with Eamon's comments Sunday night. He was working off his own personal agenda. At 37 he was well past his best and he knows it.

Familarity breeds contempt and Kevin Walsh has probably taken Sligo as far as he can. But he was a double AI winner and a 3 times allstar as a player. He is a manager who's reign with Sligo was impressive. He went down against a London side who have been threatening to do this for a number of years whilst (thanks to immigration for here) they've been getting stronger. He obviously gambled and got it wrong.

He deserves to leave on his own terms. Not to be publicly humiliated on tv by a former great who could hardly conceal his smugness at his former playing colleague's downfall. Eamon should have had more class of the field similar to when he was on it. Des Cahill didnt set him up with the question. It was all well rehearsed and both of them knew exactly what they were doing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 27, 2013, 11:40:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 11:18:13 PM
QuoteQuote
I'll leave it if you don't understand analysis or the role of a pundit or are too loyal to recently retired players.

Are you saying that of me? I'm not a Sligo man so I couldn't care less about O'Hara beyond his analysis which I thought was poor the first night but was honest and reasoned last night.

Yes - saying it of you. Did not think you were from Sligo but you did seem intent on defending   O'Hara's call for Walshe's resignation " as analysis"!! And you seem to miss the point that O'Hara is on the TSG panel as a national pundit andit is not a  forum for him to address the ills of Sligo football. The lad just let his own ego get in the way of the job he was supposed to be doing. As I said not helped by the question from Cahill.

Of course it's analysis, as I said you can't disassociate off field issues from on field performances. Sometimes it isn't a major factor and sometimes it is and that seems to be the case here. How you say he should ignore this when asked about the result is beyond me and would suggest you are unaware of what analysis is. I'll leave it that as we have different interpretations of O'Hara's views and neither of us are going to change our fundamental opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2013, 11:47:19 PM
Quote from: ross matt on May 27, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
O'Hara kicked a man when he's down. And he had the benefit of the national media to do so. How was last year "papering over the cracks" ? They beat Galway (yes I know they're poor at the moment but they're still Galway) and they ran a powerful ultimately AI runner up Mayo side to a narrow margin in the Connacht final.

O'Hara was one of my favourite players and has the makings of a decent analysist (and I agree its time to pension of Spillane) but I was disappointed with Eamon's comments Sunday night. He was working off his own personal agenda. At 37 he was well past his best and he knows it.

Familarity breeds contempt and Kevin Walsh has probably taken Sligo as far as he can. But he was a double AI winner and a 3 times allstar as a player. He is a manager who's reign with Sligo was impressive. He went down against a London side who have been threatening to do this for a number of years whilst (thanks to immigration for here) they've been getting stronger. He obviously gambled and got it wrong.

He deserves to leave on his own terms. Not to be publicly humiliated on tv by a former great who could hardly conceal his smugness at his former playing colleague's downfall. Eamon should have had more class of the field similar to when he was on it. Des Cahill didnt set him up with the question. It was all well rehearsed and both of them knew exactly what they were doing.

Interesting point.

I posted this photo during the match. The comment with it said Eamonn was watching the score in London on twitter. It was put up on twitter by Des Cahill and presumably (although I have no way of knowing) taken by Des.

Quote from: muppet on May 26, 2013, 03:57:01 PM
Getting nervous:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLMyToACIAEOM_s.jpg)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: fearbrags on May 28, 2013, 05:30:33 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/sligo-throw-weight-behind-boss-walsh-after-ohara-broadside-29300574.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2013, 07:42:25 AM
Quote from: fearbrags on May 28, 2013, 05:30:33 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/sligo-throw-weight-behind-boss-walsh-after-ohara-broadside-29300574.html
Can you copy and paste as i can access this website at work, cheers
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 28, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
Having read the comments on this thread before seeing the actual programme, I was a tad disappointed at the lack of fireworks!

O'Hara was calm and reasoned and, in my opinion, was giving his honest views. He basically said he didnt rate Walsh as a manager, but it was clearly explained beforehand the reasons how/why O'Hara is biased against Walsh. So its up to the viewer to take all that into account.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 28, 2013, 08:24:59 AM
My feelings exactly hound. Definitely not a hatch job from O'Hara. All he did was his job as an analyst - gave his opinion based on the facts as he knows them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
Can't agree lads. As I said, I'm sure his comments are accurate, but I don't see how an ex-player, with aspirations to still be playing, can be an objective analyst on games he feels he should still be involved in, especially when the team lose and he feels he has an axe to grind. That's not analysis in my book.

But I do understand the frustration and I'm sure he's correct. I just don't like the way RTE and he approached this subject.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2013, 08:49:19 AM
Sligonian - Comical Ali to the rescue!!! "No major splits!!!!

From the Irish Independent:


Sligo throw weight behind boss Walsh after O'Hara broadside
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Kevin Walsh, Sligo
Colm Keys – 28 May 2013

Sligo County Board have given their full backing to manager Kevin Walsh in the wake of former All Star Eamonn O'Hara's call for him to step down.

O'Hara used the platform of 'The Sunday Game' to criticise Walsh's tactical nous and suggested that he had "lost" the players.

But Sligo secretary Gerard O'Connor insisted that there was no question of Walsh (above) being pushed out of the job or leaving before the end of the year on the back of Sunday's defeat to London. The indications are, however, that Walsh will end his time with Sligo when he completes his fifth season in charge.

OPINIONS

O'Connor said O'Hara was entitled to his opinions but added it was "obvious there is a personality clash or spleen between him and the manager, but it's nothing to do with Sligo County Board".

Walsh was not available to comment on O'Hara's outburst on Sunday night, which concluded with a call to step down.

O'Hara had wanted to play on for a 19th championship season but claims Walsh produced a comeback deadline last November that he couldn't meet.

"It is very easy to be critical at times like this, but what's forgotten is that London have been threatening to pull off a result like this for quite some time," O'Connor added.

"It is important to remember that Kevin Walsh brought us up two divisions in the league in his first two years as well as reaching two Connacht finals.

"Eamonn is a commentator and he is paid for his comments, but that is just his opinion."

O'Connor also refuted the suggestion that Sligo GAA was split at administrative level .

"There are no major splits in the board. People didn't take up posts for their own reasons.

"And as for the failure to finish the centre of excellence that Eamonn referred to, we will not ask him back to finish the job until we have finance in place to pay the contractor."

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2013, 08:49:19 AM
Sligonian - Comical Ali to the rescue!!! "No major splits!!!!

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Sligo throw weight behind boss Walsh after O'Hara broadside
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Kevin Walsh, Sligo
Colm Keys – 28 May 2013

Sligo County Board have given their full backing to manager Kevin Walsh in the wake of former All Star Eamonn O'Hara's call for him to step down.

O'Hara used the platform of 'The Sunday Game' to criticise Walsh's tactical nous and suggested that he had "lost" the players.

But Sligo secretary Gerard O'Connor insisted that there was no question of Walsh (above) being pushed out of the job or leaving before the end of the year on the back of Sunday's defeat to London. The indications are, however, that Walsh will end his time with Sligo when he completes his fifth season in charge.

OPINIONS

O'Connor said O'Hara was entitled to his opinions but added it was "obvious there is a personality clash or spleen between him and the manager, but it's nothing to do with Sligo County Board".

Walsh was not available to comment on O'Hara's outburst on Sunday night, which concluded with a call to step down.

O'Hara had wanted to play on for a 19th championship season but claims Walsh produced a comeback deadline last November that he couldn't meet.

"It is very easy to be critical at times like this, but what's forgotten is that London have been threatening to pull off a result like this for quite some time," O'Connor added.

"It is important to remember that Kevin Walsh brought us up two divisions in the league in his first two years as well as reaching two Connacht finals.

"Eamonn is a commentator and he is paid for his comments, but that is just his opinion."

O'Connor also refuted the suggestion that Sligo GAA was split at administrative level .

"There are no major splits in the board. People didn't take up posts for their own reasons.

"And as for the failure to finish the centre of excellence that Eamonn referred to, we will not ask him back to finish the job until we have finance in place to pay the contractor."
Lying bastard, this shows the c***ts up for what they are, gutless, spineless, vindicative. Public they lie, privately its so different. Its just so sad. Whilst Sligo GAA suffers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2013, 09:06:24 AM
"Nothing to do with Sligo County Board"!!!!!!!! Thanks Eamonn for your 19 odd years service - take your shafting like a nice little boy and go away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 09:08:53 AM
QuoteI'd say there was a better chance Walsh leaving if O'Hara kept his trap shut than there is now. He will probably stay on now out of spite.

as predicted
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 28, 2013, 09:13:10 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
Can't agree lads. As I said, I'm sure his comments are accurate, but I don't see how an ex-player, with aspirations to still be playing, can be an objective analyst on games he feels he should still be involved in, especially when the team lose and he feels he has an axe to grind. That's not analysis in my book.

But I do understand the frustration and I'm sure he's correct. I just don't like the way RTE and he approached this subject.
Nobody anywhere claimed he was objective. He was stating his own subjective opinion.
But no matter who was doing the analysis - Sligo losing to London in Connacht championship for the first time in XXX years - was going to slate the Sligo manager, regardless of them being an objective neutral or not. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 28, 2013, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
Can't agree lads. As I said, I'm sure his comments are accurate, but I don't see how an ex-player, with aspirations to still be playing, can be an objective analyst on games he feels he should still be involved in, especially when the team lose and he feels he has an axe to grind. That's not analysis in my book.

But I do understand the frustration and I'm sure he's correct. I just don't like the way RTE and he approached this subject.

But that's more a case of your interpretation of O'Hara's comments AZ. If you were asked to comment on Offaly or Tipp football you'd have more of an insight than if asked about Antrim football for example. Surely you'd be entitled to refer to the work being done at club level in Tipp etc. during your analysis. If that happened to be critical I don't see why it would be out of bounds. If Sligo hammered London and O'Hara said Walsh was brilliant because of X, Y or Z nobody would criticise him but because he is critical he should shut his mouth? If he unnecessarily personal then yeah he'd be out of line but he stuck to football IMO.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
What does O'Hara do for a living? Is he a contractor who was working on the centre of excellence?

That's almost what the last line there seems to suggest. If so hell of a dig at him. If not then I'm obviously reading too much into it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 28, 2013, 09:43:44 AM
The Indo article above shows why the Sunday Game was the wrong forum.

It is now merely a 'spleen' between Walsh and O'Hara, and Walsh will stay silent and maintain the high moral ground. He may stay for the qualifier or he may go.

The CB now actually looks almost reasonable in this.

The reality according to the Sligo lads is very different, and obviously very frustrating. But the row is now on a national stage and there it will be diluted down to the lowest common denominator, which is a player versus a manager. And worse from a passionate Sligo supporter's point of view, people all over Ireland will have an opinion without knowing anything other than what they saw on the Sunday Game and the associated fallout.

@Hound & @Zulu what O'Hara actually said doesn't really matter anymore. It will be remembered (outside Sligo) as an ex-player having a go at his former manager as a new panelist on TSG and little else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.

Just on COM, during the live show, what was the dig at JB for regarding the summer house? Came pretty much out of the blue and seemed a little uncalled for, felt like he had it stored up and was dying to get it into the conversation at some point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2013, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
What does O'Hara do for a living? Is he a contractor who was working on the centre of excellence?

That's almost what the last line there seems to suggest. If so hell of a dig at him. If not then I'm obviously reading too much into it!

He is a rep for a healthcare company as far as I know. That line does read funny alright but if you knew the gentleman in question you'd understand!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 28, 2013, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 28, 2013, 10:07:51 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 28, 2013, 09:39:36 AM
What does O'Hara do for a living? Is he a contractor who was working on the centre of excellence?

That's almost what the last line there seems to suggest. If so hell of a dig at him. If not then I'm obviously reading too much into it!

He is a rep for a healthcare company as far as I know. That line does read funny alright but if you knew the gentleman in question you'd understand!

Quote"And as for the failure to finish the centre of excellence that Eamonn referred to, we will not ask him back to finish the job until we have finance in place to pay the contractor."

It does read like that alright. Well spotted!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.

Just on COM, during the live show, what was the dig at JB for regarding the summer house? Came pretty much out of the blue and seemed a little uncalled for, felt like he had it stored up and was dying to get it into the conversation at some point.

I thought I heard O'Rourke going on about a summer house with a pool inside and outside over the noise of the youngsters fighting over lego.

Was he suggesting Brolly's fawning over Donegal was that he spends a bit of time there??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 28, 2013, 10:28:08 AM
On this particular issue: "And as for the failure to finish the centre of excellence that Eamonn referred to, we will not ask him back to finish the job until we have finance in place to pay the contractor."

They obviously went ahead and partially built this facility without having the finance in place to complete the job. What is the story there?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 28, 2013, 11:19:30 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 28, 2013, 10:28:08 AM
On this particular issue: "And as for the failure to finish the centre of excellence that Eamonn referred to, we will not ask him back to finish the job until we have finance in place to pay the contractor."

They obviously went ahead and partially built this facility without having the finance in place to complete the job. What is the story there?

There's nothing obvious about it to be honest. It's a long story and very much caught in the crossfire of the split. Instead of unifying and focussing on this - the most important venture in Sligo GAA history in my view - there has been massive infighting. The guys who were heading up this project are no longer involved. Finance is an issue, not just for this project but for the county board in day to day terms. I understand it's significant but not insurmountable but unity and a common purpose is required and it's very hard to see it happening. Morale among clubs and grassroots members is at an all time low in my (albeit limited) experience.

In the GAA there are plenty of people you don't like or don't like you but I always think you have to work together as best you can. It's like playing football - if that asshole team mate scores a goal off your pass the team wins. Unfortunately, in Sligo GAA enough people don't seem to see it that way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 28, 2013, 11:43:11 AM
To an extent that's a human nature thing though Seanie. Some of the people who go on these boards are power hungry and don't like sharing it. That's not exclusive to Sligo however the thing that is required on these boards is that you get people who like you say can work together and will put their egos aside for the sake of the progress of what they are there for. Too many people of that ilk will not work and never does. It sounds like you have too many people of that ilk.

In Antrim there were a vast number of non too progressive guys for a lot of years. It's much better than it was but still a bit to go.

What about county convention etc? Can these guys not be voted out?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2013, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.

Just on COM, during the live show, what was the dig at JB for regarding the summer house? Came pretty much out of the blue and seemed a little uncalled for, felt like he had it stored up and was dying to get it into the conversation at some point.

I thought I heard O'Rourke going on about a summer house with a pool inside and outside over the noise of the youngsters fighting over lego.

Was he suggesting Brolly's fawning over Donegal was that he spends a bit of time there??

That conversation was a good and well deserved "score" for O Rourke. Brolly was wittering on about how Donegal last year could afford to foul around the 45 meter line with impunity and how they would now have to rethink given the scoring range that the Tyrone keeper has. O Rourke cut in and said it was curious how Joe was now talking about Donegals cynical fouling when before last years all ireland he came out and made reference to Mayo being a cynical team and no mention of Donegal. He then said maybe its because Joe is building a big house in Donegal and is their cheerleader. It was a point well made in my opinion. Then Joe knows rightly its all about publicity and no one is quite like the Mayo's to take the bait.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 28, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
It is pathetic that after two great victories for Cavan and London in the last two weekends, look what TSG has reduced the conversation to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on May 28, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
In general I think any of the "analysts" shouldn't be involved in covering their own counties games. It''s an amateur sport and they are less likely to be impartial and give an honest opinion with out being accused of bias etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 28, 2013, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 28, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
In general I think any of the "analysts" shouldn't be involved in covering their own counties games. It''s an amateur sport and they are less likely to be impartial and give an honest opinion with out being accused of bias etc.

Think Joe will go easy on Derry next week or his home village mucker big McGilligan might take a trip to Belfast.............

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44689000/jpg/_44689223_brian_mcgilligan512.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on May 28, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.

Just on COM, during the live show, what was the dig at JB for regarding the summer house? Came pretty much out of the blue and seemed a little uncalled for, felt like he had it stored up and was dying to get it into the conversation at some point.

I thought I heard O'Rourke going on about a summer house with a pool inside and outside over the noise of the youngsters fighting over lego.

Was he suggesting Brolly's fawning over Donegal was that he spends a bit of time there??
That was the gist of it.
Michael Lyster did his usual 'careful now' act and stopped them before it got interesting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 12:39:04 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2013, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.

Just on COM, during the live show, what was the dig at JB for regarding the summer house? Came pretty much out of the blue and seemed a little uncalled for, felt like he had it stored up and was dying to get it into the conversation at some point.

I thought I heard O'Rourke going on about a summer house with a pool inside and outside over the noise of the youngsters fighting over lego.

Was he suggesting Brolly's fawning over Donegal was that he spends a bit of time there??

That conversation was a good and well deserved "score" for O Rourke. Brolly was wittering on about how Donegal last year could afford to foul around the 45 meter line with impunity and how they would now have to rethink given the scoring range that the Tyrone keeper has. O Rourke cut in and said it was curious how Joe was now talking about Donegals cynical fouling when before last years all ireland he came out and made reference to Mayo being a cynical team and no mention of Donegal. He then said maybe its because Joe is building a big house in Donegal and is their cheerleader. It was a point well made in my opinion. Then Joe knows rightly its all about publicity and no one is quite like the Mayo's to take the bait.

I got the jist of the point, though thanks for pointing out the obvious, my point on it was simply the fact the COR seemed to have it stored up and it was a silly point scoring exercise which once again points to the games that are being played out at RTE with these pundits.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 28, 2013, 12:39:32 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 28, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
In general I think any of the "analysts" shouldn't be involved in covering their own counties games. It''s an amateur sport and they are less likely to be impartial and give an honest opinion with out being accused of bias etc.
Honest opinion is a pre-requisite, but personally I like a bit of bias. When Meath are playing, the pundit who I most want to hear is O'Rourke.
On Sunday night, Spillane talked an unbeliveable amount of BS, but the one interesting thing he did say was about Kerry. Everyone else was saying its genius to put Gooch at 11, but he said its very much "wait and see". Its all very well having a great playmaker out the field, but its not worth much if your corner forwards arent putting it over the bar
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
NAG1 - see the line you typed where you put a question mark on the end. Sorry to again point out the obvious but a question mark means the bit before it was a question, not a point or a statement. I tried to answer your question as I assumed you did not know the context in which the "summer home" comment was made.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
NAG1 - see the line you typed where you put a question mark on the end. Sorry to again point out the obvious but a question mark means the bit before it was a question, not a point or a statement. I tried to answer your question as I assumed you did not know the context in which the "summer home" comment was made.

Question what was the dig at JB for, not what was the meaning of the dig.

Just to me seemed completely out of context, yes COR was correct to point out inconsistencies in JB's approach, but the dig way over the line and seemed personal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 09:08:53 AM
QuoteI'd say there was a better chance Walsh leaving if O'Hara kept his trap shut than there is now. He will probably stay on now out of spite.

as predicted

You predicted an under fire CB would lie and support their under fire manager? Sure didn't O'Hara even intimate Walsh would have to walk because the CB wouldn't have the guts to sack him? Predictable actions are predictable. It doesn't change the immense pressure and scrutiny the CB is under now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
QuoteIt is pathetic that after two great victories for Cavan and London in the last two weekends, look what TSG has reduced the conversation to.

My thoughts also you could add Loud and Wickla to that also. Loud probably has been the performance of the CShip so far. Probably suits them though ssshhh... ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Glensman on May 28, 2013, 02:12:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2013, 12:46:03 PM
NAG1 - see the line you typed where you put a question mark on the end. Sorry to again point out the obvious but a question mark means the bit before it was a question, not a point or a statement. I tried to answer your question as I assumed you did not know the context in which the "summer home" comment was made.

Question what was the dig at JB for, not what was the meaning of the dig.

Just to me seemed completely out of context, yes COR was correct to point out inconsistencies in JB's approach, but the dig way over the line and seemed personal.

I took it as a bit of banter between them but not knowing their relationship well I am not sure. Joe gives enough stick, disagrees with others' points, cuts across others, so fair play to COR.

Joe also needs to be called out more for his ability to completely and utterly change his mind to suit the occasion. His profession and experience may allow him to do it smoothly but he quite simply can argue something is black then, in the not too distant future, argue the same exact thing is white. Having seen him on RTE and in a couple of those panel sessions he just simply says what the audience wants to hear with a few controversial things thrown in. Re those panel sessions he gives his time for free so credit where credit is due.

It was as clear as day that he was referring to Donegal's trait of fouling out the field, which he never did last year but instead called Mayo out.
When Tyrone were flying a couple of years back they were playing a super brand of football, working for each other...over the past few years they (with the same team and manager) have been the subject of ridicule from him on occascion.

His comments previously re Cooper, re Grimley (still to watch that if anyone has a link) are way beyond his remit in my opinion and way to personal. He lauds the amateur nature of our assocation and the great community feel it has taking it way beyond soccer and others, yet he completely takes individuals to pieces who are doing their all to benefit such organisation. His personal abuse should be reigned in.

O'Hara was asked a direct question and responded. Whether it was the right forum or not or done in the right manner is a different question. He was on there and Cahill asked him the question. I have no doubt RTE were licking their lips about the "ex star, cast aside" being on their panel for the night.

The fact of the matter will I watch Brolly on the tv next week, yes - because Sidebottom on BBC is quite simply attrocious.
Will I tune in to see what stupid saying Pat comes up with (he really has lost the plot), yes.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on May 28, 2013, 02:22:17 PM
Pat Spillane is now akin to Fr Jack in the corner. On the periphary, rambling away with noone really listening anymore.
I would expect him to come out with something sensationalist soon to keep himself current against the newer analysts on the block.

At the end of the day they are paid analysts. Controversy creates newspaper articles and keeps them current and well up the pecking order, those who were less controversal despite being  more analytical and articulate have been discarded in the not too distant past.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 28, 2013, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 28, 2013, 02:22:17 PM
Pat Spillane is now akin to Fr Jack in the corner.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 28, 2013, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 28, 2013, 02:22:17 PM
Pat Spillane is now akin to Fr Jack in the corner.

;D ;D ;D

He's certainly got the hairy hands syndrome. Probably a level 5 in all fairness.....

(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/mKVJq6AXHb4/mqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 04:28:49 PM
QuotePat Spillane is now akin to Fr Jack in the corner.

Whealan should tell him next week in the middle of his weekly rave that it's his bath time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 28, 2013, 05:54:48 PM
Never heard the bit where O'Rourke made the jibe about Brolly's holiday home but Brolly definitely seems to be starting to irritate O'Rourke. With Brolly cutting across him shouting 'I disagree' O'Rourke was visibly getting vexed and continued to shout back over the top of Brolly, its comical stuff at times if not taken too seriously and once the personal element is left out of it. Brolly is very clever and clearly a wind up merchant but its peculiar as to where exactly his love of Donegal has come from. Is it simply him being in awe of McGuinness, having a soft spot for the county or simply trying to be controversial and getting a rise out of Spillane etc. More than likely its a combination of all three.

These pundits do set the tone for the media debate that follows after games though. RTE's only duty is to boost ratings for the programme which is done by being controversial and having people with opinions.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: kilkenny footballer on May 28, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
at least they are gettin viewers and controversy is what they want! and pat spillane is just downright funny! and im a donegal man   ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 28, 2013, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: kilkenny footballer on May 28, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
at least they are gettin viewers and controversy is what they want! and pat spillane is just downright funny! and im a donegal man   ???

I'd rather the Aprés Match crew and a bit more action.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on May 28, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: kilkenny footballer on May 28, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
at least they are gettin viewers and controversy is what they want! and pat spillane is just downright funny! and I'm a donegal man   ???

I actually  find them all entertaining I guess Rte  has them them all under  pressure to deliver some controversy
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: kilkenny footballer on May 28, 2013, 09:56:12 PM
eamon o hara gave des the answer he wanted aswell!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 11:21:52 PM
Did ye see that statement just released by the Sligo panel? It absolutely, unequivocaly and categorically supports and backs Kevin Walsh and his management team, and outlines how they are delighted to be working with him, and that O'Hara's comments about tactics, sessions and them deserving better were completely off the mark. Nice to see such a strong statement in support of their manager.

NOT!!!!

It reads like an old Stasi or Pravda statement on behalf of someone, carefully scripted by the Security Ministry.

"Statement on behalf of Sligo Senior Football Panel

In light of recent comments in the national media, players want to publicly assert their full confidence in Kevin Walsh and his Management Team going forward.

Sligo Senior Football Panel"


I notice they are not confident in him defensively :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 28, 2013, 11:27:54 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 11:21:52 PM
Did ye see that statement just released by the Sligo panel? It absolutely, unequivocaly and categorically supports and backs Kevin Walsh and his management team, and outlines how they are delighted to be working with him, and that O'Hara's comments about tactics, sessions and them deserving better were completely off the mark. Nice to see such a strong statement in support of their manager.

NOT!!!!

It reads like an old Stasi or Pravda statement on behalf of someone, carefully scripted by the Security Ministry.

"Statement on behalf of Sligo Senior Football Panel

In light of recent comments in the national media, players want to publicly assert their full confidence in Kevin Walsh and his Management Team going forward.

Sligo Senior Football Panel"


I notice they are not confident in him defensively :)

Was it signed?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 11:32:18 PM
What I posted in quotes is verbatim. It's a PDF, so it could have been scanned in signed, but there are no signatures visible, other than the typed designation "Sligo Senior Football Panel". Looks like a clumsy attempt by CLG Sligeach to project harmony where little exists.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 11:35:10 PM
I also wonder is the phraseology a Freudian slip, or intentionally ambiguous?

"In light of recent comments in the national media, players want to publicly assert their full confidence in Kevin Walsh and his Management Team going forward."

Not 'The Players' or 'The entire Sligo Panel' or 'All players'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 29, 2013, 12:47:21 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 11:35:10 PM
I also wonder is the phraseology a Freudian slip, or intentionally ambiguous?

"In light of recent comments in the national media, players want to publicly assert their full confidence in Kevin Walsh and his Management Team going forward."

Not 'The Players' or 'The entire Sligo Panel' or 'All players'.

After all, sub goalies are people too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AMayoFan on May 30, 2013, 09:15:04 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on May 28, 2013, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 28, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 28, 2013, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2013, 09:51:43 AM
I understand what ye are saying lads, and I suppose it comes down to what do you expect an analyst, a paid, professional, analyst to bring to the party. Using his subjective view to slate someone from that pedastal is always distasteful in my opinion, and I feel the same about Brolly's character assassination of Grimley last week.

I think RTE are trying to make the Sunday Game 'edgy' for the past few years and this is just another flavour of it. "Disgruntled Ex-Player 'blasts' Sligo after defeat" is probably how a tabloid would play it, and I think that's what TSG is looking for. Tabloid TV.

I don't have a problem with someone using insight into a situation, which is why it's interesting to hear O'Rourke talk about Meath, etc etc, but I don't think what we saw on Sunday was that, I think it was someone with a major gripe, albeit legitimate, feeling vindicated and using the Sunday Game as a platform.

Just to say, I do think O'Hara was very composed and measured, it wasn't a rant by any means.

Just on COM, during the live show, what was the dig at JB for regarding the summer house? Came pretty much out of the blue and seemed a little uncalled for, felt like he had it stored up and was dying to get it into the conversation at some point.

I thought I heard O'Rourke going on about a summer house with a pool inside and outside over the noise of the youngsters fighting over lego.

Was he suggesting Brolly's fawning over Donegal was that he spends a bit of time there??

That conversation was a good and well deserved "score" for O Rourke. Brolly was wittering on about how Donegal last year could afford to foul around the 45 meter line with impunity and how they would now have to rethink given the scoring range that the Tyrone keeper has. O Rourke cut in and said it was curious how Joe was now talking about Donegals cynical fouling when before last years all ireland he came out and made reference to Mayo being a cynical team and no mention of Donegal. He then said maybe its because Joe is building a big house in Donegal and is their cheerleader. It was a point well made in my opinion. Then Joe knows rightly its all about publicity and no one is quite like the Mayo's to take the bait.

+1 agree
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BluestackBoy on May 30, 2013, 09:20:45 AM
For all it's faults though you just have to love TSG.

Every one of it's panellists, with the exception of Ciaran Whelan, has had a rattle at someone & we're only two weeks in.

If I was an Dublin manager, past or present, I would be wary of Whelan this week :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on May 30, 2013, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on May 30, 2013, 09:20:45 AM
For all it's faults though you just have to love TSG.

Every one of it's panellists, with the exception of Ciaran Whelan, has had a rattle at someone & we're only two weeks in.

If I was an Dublin manager, past or present, I would be wary of Whelan this week :-X :-X :-X

Whelan lacked that bit of class on the field with the flying elbows and arms but I think he will hold it together on the panel ...................................... unless Tommy Lyons makes a bumbling appearance
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 30, 2013, 12:24:53 PM
Any one know why Kerry are back playing again this weekend whilst Cork's semifinal isn't for another 2 weeks?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 30, 2013, 12:43:52 PM
Waterford asked for it to be brought forward and both Tipp and Kerry agreed to it afaik.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on May 30, 2013, 12:47:45 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 30, 2013, 12:24:53 PM
Any one know why Kerry are back playing again this weekend whilst Cork's semifinal isn't for another 2 weeks?

Stag party on in Waterford. 4 of their lads are away on for that weekend on stag to Portugal for 4 days.


You have to get your priorities right lads.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 30, 2013, 02:18:36 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 30, 2013, 12:43:52 PM
Waterford asked for it to be brought forward and both Tipp and Kerry agreed to it afaik.

I presume its on the Saturday night with the Waterford hurlers out the next day vrs Clare?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 31, 2013, 02:57:08 PM
I wonder what next week's Sunday Game controversy will be.

Will Spillane declare Derry's 93 all Ireland null and void, thereby enraging Brolly ?
Will one of the panelists turn up in a tracksuit ?
Will Gardai be called to the studio?

   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on May 31, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 31, 2013, 02:57:08 PM
I wonder what next week's Sunday Game controversy will be.

Will Spillane declare Derry's 93 all Ireland null and void, thereby enraging Brolly ?
Will one of the panelists turn up in a tracksuit ?
Will Gardai be called to the studio?


Brolly will call Down arrogant even if we are beat by 20 points he will claim down left the pitch with a swagger.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 31, 2013, 03:23:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 31, 2013, 02:57:08 PM
I wonder what next week's Sunday Game controversy will be.

Will Spillane declare Derry's 93 all Ireland null and void, thereby enraging Brolly ?
Will one of the panelists turn up in a tracksuit ?
Will Gardai be called to the studio?



Imagine how wild the Galway bucks are if they actually fail RTE's vetting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 02, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
Good to see they took Colm and Pat to Thurles in order to analyse a game in Derry today. Pat spent the whole half time analysis of an entertaining and relatively high scoring first half, banging on about a blanket defence - the man is obsessed. Does he even know what a blanket defence is as there was no blanket defence on show today. Judging by last week he has a fair idea ......

http://balls.ie/gaa/spillane-blanket-analogy-video/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 02, 2013, 10:52:48 PM
No controversy in tonight's show so far apart from the Westmeath manager claiming they could have bate Dublin had thru played them in Mullingar.

And the Waterford manager saying that if they arranged other training sessions, they had no money to arrange for  players to get fed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 02, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
It was like they were talking about a death in the family for gods sake.
Whatever about Waterford, Westmeath can beat plenty of teams in the qualifiers so Flanagan should have steered well clear of this misery-porn.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
Not on TSG, but Mc Hugh's analysis on BBC rubbishing the provincial championships was the most significant on TV today. It's a 2 horse race in all four provincial championships. Kildare might give the Dubs a scare, but will be beaten; Donegal are going to cruise through Ulster, Kerry and Cork are playing friendlies until they meet and Mayo have taken care of their best rivals in the west.

It's high time we moved to an open draw for the AI.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 02, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
. It's a 2 horse race in all four provincial championships.
Last 6 Connacht titles won by Sligo, Galway, Mayowr, Ros, Mayowr, Mayowr. It's either a 4 or 1 horse race.[/color]It's high time we moved to an open draw for the AI. There is one - it's called the Qualifiers and the Quarter finals
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 02, 2013, 11:35:29 PM
Quote from: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
Not on TSG, but Mc Hugh's analysis on BBC rubbishing the provincial championships was the most significant on TV today. It's a 2 horse race in all four provincial championships. Kildare might give the Dubs a scare, but will be beaten; Donegal are going to cruise through Ulster, Kerry and Cork are playing friendlies until they meet and Mayo have taken care of their best rivals in the west.

It's high time we moved to an open draw for the AI.

In the GAA it seems that the way things are now is the way they will always be.
Hence we have some new impending catastrophe every year.
Anyway, what's so bad about a two horse race in each province?
Has it ever been any different?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 02, 2013, 11:44:32 PM
I had Sam Maguire in me hands today. Feels like our year. :-*
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:56:41 PM
Points taken Jinxy and Rossfan.

For the likes of Sligo a provincial title is the ultimate. The Division 1 sides get into their strides when it matters. Kerry v Waterford is a foregone conclusion, much as we'd like to see it otherwise. In Munster Cork and Kerry can prime sides to compete effectively in July or August. Donegal have overcome their most significant tie until then. Meath and Kildare won't be able to do a job on Dublin. Mayo won't be beaten in Connacht.

Much as I'd like it to be otherwise it's a waste of airtime until then.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on June 03, 2013, 12:01:45 AM
Quote from: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
Not on TSG, but Mc Hugh's analysis on BBC rubbishing the provincial championships was the most significant on TV today. It's a 2 horse race in all four provincial championships. Kildare might give the Dubs a scare, but will be beaten; Donegal are going to cruise through Ulster, Kerry and Cork are playing friendlies until they meet and Mayo have taken care of their best rivals in the west.

It's high time we moved to an open draw for the AI.

McHugh should know for over ten years before Jim McGuinness arrived Ulster was two horse race between Armagh,Tyrone now its Donegal and who can give them a game.

Over the last ten years Sligo,Westmeath,Roscommon won provincial titles Louth should have won another one in 2010. Cavan,Tipperary with the underage success will be looking to win provincial title in the years ahead.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: babarino on June 03, 2013, 12:12:52 AM
QuoteOver the last ten years Sligo,Westmeath,Roscommon won provincial titles Louth should have won another one in 2010. Cavan,Tipperary with the underage success will be looking to win procincial title in the years ahead.

And how did the provincial title winners do in the Quarter Finals? This year Sligo beaten by London, Tipp at underage have flattered to deceive and Cavan's underage success is largely down to home fixtures. Armagh with a bit of savvy would have won the Prelimary game.

While not convinced that an open draw is going to change things, "the rich are getting richer" with the present structure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on June 03, 2013, 12:30:27 AM
Quote from: babarino on June 03, 2013, 12:12:52 AM
While not convinced that an open draw is going to change things, "the rich are getting richer" with the present structure.

what? Donegal with their two Sams are considered rich? the past 4 years have seen four different winners of Sam, with 6 different finalists.

Explain to me a structure that will change this, given that you have admitted that an open draw will not change things.

Sure lets just change 100 years of tradition because Westmeath got hockeyed by the Dubs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 03, 2013, 08:41:33 AM
McEnaney the ref was on RTE at the weekend on the mismatches and he made the point that teams with a bit of history like Galway would always fancy a resurrection next year or the year after. Donegal were fairly poor in 2010. Things change.

BTW an open draw is as likely as a decentralised political structure and county councils empowered with genuine political power.   Dream on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2013, 10:21:52 AM
The Armagh-Tyrone dominance of Ulster in previous years is a great example of why people should cool their jets.
Provincial championships are generally a two horse race, but the horses involved can change from year to year.
Who's to say Cavan won't continue to build on the back of their underage success and challenge for Ulster titles in the not too distant future?
Donegal are not building a dynasty.
They have a relatively shallow squad and a massively charismatic and talented manager.
One or two injuries and/or a change of manager could see them drop back to the rest of the chasing peloton fairly quickly.
Just keep calm and let the championship develop before passing judgement.
Who knows, there might be a few shocks along the way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 03, 2013, 11:59:00 AM
The Olympic 100m final will be between Usain Bolt, Yohan Blake and 1 or two others.

In that case shouldn't we dispense with all the qualifying times, heats, semi-finals and also rans in the Finals?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 12:05:08 PM
Ten years ago was it any different?

Twenty years ago was it any different?

I thought what was interesting is the difference in resources available to counties coming from comments in the paper by managers. I think there should be some form of equalising of financial resources. That Waterford footballers had to raise the money for their trip to Johnstown House says it all.

I don't want to unfairly penalise teams who have good support and are more attractive to sponsorship but the balance needs redressing. A more competitive even championship benefits everyone long term.

The American NFL has learned this and has been much more competitive than ever since the shared revenue agreement come into being in the early 90's. While I wouldn't go for complete sharing of all revenue as they have, there has to be more done I think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 03, 2013, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: babarino on June 03, 2013, 12:12:52 AM
QuoteOver the last ten years Sligo,Westmeath,Roscommon won provincial titles Louth should have won another one in 2010. Cavan,Tipperary with the underage success will be looking to win procincial title in the years ahead.

And how did the provincial title winners do in the Quarter Finals? This year Sligo beaten by London, Tipp at underage have flattered to deceive and Cavan's underage success is largely down to home fixtures. Armagh with a bit of savvy would have won the Prelimary game.

While not convinced that an open draw is going to change things, "the rich are getting richer" with the present structure.

Not sure what you mean regarding the bit in bold. Tipp are consistently competitive in Munster at all underage levels now, which would have been unheard of 20 years ago. They have won the last two Munster Minor football titles, and 2011 All Ireland Minor title. They also have a reasonably successful hurling set up as well. Throw in the Munster U21 in 2010, and that's pretty harsh to call it flattering to deceive. Plenty of counties would love a recent record like that.

If you phrased it badly, and you mean it hasn't translated into senior, then you are correct up to a point. That is the next area of focus here in Tipp, but it's far too soon to write off the underage successes just yet. A lot of the lads there v Kerry have been around a good while, the youth set up is not being rushed through just yet. If Tipp can continue producing competitive underage teams, and work to try and smooth their passage into the Senior set up then they will have success. That's a challenge, no doubt, but hopefully Tipp will be able to meet that challenge.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 03, 2013, 02:12:00 PM
I don't think the likes of Waterford should be gauging themselves by how they fare against Kerry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 03, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
Quote from: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
Not on TSG, but Mc Hugh's analysis on BBC rubbishing the provincial championships was the most significant on TV today. It's a 2 horse race in all four provincial championships. Kildare might give the Dubs a scare, but will be beaten; Donegal are going to cruise through Ulster, Kerry and Cork are playing friendlies until they meet and Mayo have taken care of their best rivals in the west.

It's high time we moved to an open draw for the AI.

Is that the same McHugh who predicted a Monaghan v Derry Ulster final about 3 weeks ago?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 04, 2013, 09:52:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 02, 2013, 11:10:52 PM
It was like they were talking about a death in the family for gods sake.
Whatever about Waterford, Westmeath can beat plenty of teams in the qualifiers so Flanagan should have steered well clear of this misery-porn.

Isn't that the truth.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on June 04, 2013, 11:10:28 AM
Here's another thread where someone wont point out the obvious. Dublin weren't even brought up and a Dub pops in to say the situation shouldn't be changed.
7 million euro. Say it.
It doesn't matter what's done at senior level. "There needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to." That wont make one iota of difference, it's underage where the difference is happening.
That rubbish you're spouting about increased population is pathetic. It's the money, even Flanagan said on the Sunday Game. He had an underage team, think it was the u21's and they had to play Dublin. He said the difference in physical conditioning was staggering.
Now you're claim that the improvement in Dublin underage football is down to a few lads teaching them how to kick points.
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/crying-laughter-smiley-emoticon.gif)
It really is a joke. No one will take it seriously.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
All your points are valid but there are other issues to take into account as well.
Do you remember the report of the committee headed by Peter Quinn that looked at the structures of the GAA and came up with recommendations for change?
(Can't recall the time but it was about 10-12 years ago.)
One such recommendation was that Dublin be split in three for GAA purposes with each region acting as a separate entity.
The howls from the true blue Dubs knocked that on the head but the basis of the proposal was valid.
Quinn and his team looked at the number of kids playing at weekends in each county and found that each of the five largest Dublin clubs could field more youngsters than any of five named counties. I know Leitrim and Fermanagh were mentioned and I think Sligo, Monaghan and Cavan were the others.
The emphasis on the suggestion was the huge drop of in participation as the age limits increased as ultimately there is only one county panel at the top of the pyramid.
That's the case in every other county as well but if Dublin was split up, the drop out rate as kids get older would decrease dramatically.
I thought the proposal deserved serious consideration. For starters, Dublin is now effectively three different counties for local government purposes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 04, 2013, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
i think it helps massively. Generalisation yes, but imo its half the battle.
the other half is coaching underage to quality levels, then up to county mgt.

kerry and kilkenny really only play one sport - so their population is all accessible generally only to that one game.

dunno about the sports shops- poss seasonal with the recent rugby finals and the lions tour on. also its only the start of the GAA championship season. Liffey valley will be awash with dubs jerseys on sale and worn in a week or two.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 12:31:13 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 04, 2013, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
i think it helps massively. Generalisation yes, but imo its half the battle.
the other half is coaching underage to quality levels, then up to county mgt.

kerry and kilkenny really only play one sport - so their population is all accessible generally only to that one game.

dunno about the sports shops- poss seasonal with the recent rugby finals and the lions tour on. also its only the start of the GAA championship season. Liffey valley will be awash with dubs jerseys on sale and worn in a week or two.
Maybe punters are waiting for the dubs to get a sponsor. But competition with other sports is serious. They get 400 kids to Saturday rugby in wexford town. And all the sports want the fellas with potential.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on June 04, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
All your points are valid but there are other issues to take into account as well.
Do you remember the report of the committee headed by Peter Quinn that looked at the structures of the GAA and came up with recommendations for change?
(Can't recall the time but it was about 10-12 years ago.)
One such recommendation was that Dublin be split in three for GAA purposes with each region acting as a separate entity.
The howls from the true blue Dubs knocked that on the head but the basis of the proposal was valid.
Quinn and his team looked at the number of kids playing at weekends in each county and found that each of the five largest Dublin clubs could field more youngsters than any of five named counties. I know Leitrim and Fermanagh were mentioned and I think Sligo, Monaghan and Cavan were the others.
The emphasis on the suggestion was the huge drop of in participation as the age limits increased as ultimately there is only one county panel at the top of the pyramid.
That's the case in every other county as well but if Dublin was split up, the drop out rate as kids get older would decrease dramatically.
I thought the proposal deserved serious consideration. For starters, Dublin is now effectively three different counties for local government purposes.

Selective enough in  your stats there Larnaparka.

Most of the "superclubs" would have an A, B and C team only at underage level. Maybe according to the census they "could" field more than other counties but they don't and never will.

When you tot them up there aren't too many of such superclubs but they are always trotted out as the norm.

DLRCC area for example  has c210,000 people and I reckon only 8 or so GAA clubs.

Not saying that Dublin has its advantages but not to the extent widely portrayed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
To me it's relatively simple to my eyes and has almost nothing to do with format changes - split overall revenue between the counties and work out a good formula that allows the biggest counties more money to cover their larger playing populations. Finding the right balance would be hard but not impossible.

Once you do that you can introduce a minimum and maximum cap on senior team spending. You'll force counties to either get serious about running their county team or risk losing funding and you'd allow counties with plenty of passion and talent to compete on as level a playing field as we're likely to get. You'd prevent ridiculous situations like one county barely being able to afford to train their team for an extra week while their opponents jet off to Portugal for a camp. We need to use revenue in smarter ways to foster a healthier championship.

Basically an altered version of the American NFL model that accounts for the fact different-sized counties need different-sized allowances outside the senior set-up.

The obvious roadblock is county board and provincial councils who may fear losing their power but the majority of counties would benefit at the end of it. Ah, an ideal world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PAULD123 on June 04, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: babarino on June 02, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
Not on TSG, but Mc Hugh's analysis on BBC rubbishing the provincial championships was the most significant on TV today. It's a 2 horse race in all four provincial championships. Kildare might give the Dubs a scare, but will be beaten; Donegal are going to cruise through Ulster, Kerry and Cork are playing friendlies until they meet and Mayo have taken care of their best rivals in the west.

It's high time we moved to an open draw for the AI.

It seems to me that there are teams who don't believe they can win their province and are happy for a "good run in the qualifiers". I am opposed to scrapping the wonderful provincial crowns, in Ulster it still means a lot. But I think a semi-open draw is a good idea. When Cork will meet Kerry in the Munster final the winner goes to quarter final and the punishment for loser is merely to go back one step to last 16. There is not a big enough prize for winning. So I think the provincial winner should be rewarded with a quarter final place, but every other team, no mater where they finished in the province, should go into an open draw. Then getting to and winning a provincial crown would really mean something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on June 04, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
I was persuaded to go to the Westmead match on Sat night as I don't think I'd ever been to a Leinster first round match before.
I had expected Dublin to win handy enough but I at least though Westmead would put up some sort of "fight"
You could just tell from the first 5 mins and lack of bite in the tackle that Westmead had already accepted their fate with Dessie Dolan not starting. I was telling the lad I was with that in Ulster, if Tyrone were playing Antrim, Fermanagh and especially Monaghan you'd be seeing all sorts of off the ball stuff and a lot harder hits. A bit of fight and not this lying down and rolling over attitude that most teams show v Dublin in Croke Park.
The level of intensity wasn't there from the start and so Dublin knew they would get time & space to play their attractive passing game.

The last Leinster match I was at was the 2004 final between these two teams which Westmead won.
I can see now why Dublin get so uneasy before going into 1/4 final matches against the bigger guns as they know they've had such a cake walk up until then.
I read that in the 24 Leinster matches since that 2004 final, Dublin have only lost once, that freakish 11 point lose to Meath in 2010. I was joking to my mate that they should request to play in Ulster for a year or two to see how they'd fare, like Galway in the hurling. IN Ulster in the last 20 years there has been 6 different winners. Surprisingly Down haven't won it since 1996

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 04, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 04, 2013, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
i think it helps massively. Generalisation yes, but imo its half the battle.
the other half is coaching underage to quality levels, then up to county mgt.

kerry and kilkenny really only play one sport - so their population is all accessible generally only to that one game.

dunno about the sports shops- poss seasonal with the recent rugby finals and the lions tour on. also its only the start of the GAA championship season. Liffey valley will be awash with dubs jerseys on sale and worn in a week or two.

Do Derry only play one sport?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2013, 04:48:37 PM
I mean sponsorships, gate receipts, everything, even a percentage of donations. Again it's only in an ideal world you'd get all that through but a move towards a system where we don't have a few intercounty teams flooded with cash and others not even able to afford to train their teams is only going to bring things closer.

Even a system where we just ring fence enough money for counties to fund preparation of their senior teams would make a big difference in the long run, and capping spending will prevent teams from having huge advantages in terms what they can do to prepare. I don't think a system where counties are spending hand over fist on senior preparation is sustainable and it has already started to become a drain on other areas of the sport. We've got a lovely flower but we're rotting the roots.

Obviously smaller populations will always have a disadvantage over the bigger ones but if teams are funded to a relatively similar level you are going to see a lot of levelling off of the extremes of the system and it will allow more counties to have viable hopes of success and even All-Irelands.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mike Sheehy on June 04, 2013, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 04, 2013, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
i think it helps massively. Generalisation yes, but imo its half the battle.
the other half is coaching underage to quality levels, then up to county mgt.

kerry and kilkenny really only play one sport - so their population is all accessible generally only to that one game.

dunno about the sports shops- poss seasonal with the recent rugby finals and the lions tour on. also its only the start of the GAA championship season. Liffey valley will be awash with dubs jerseys on sale and worn in a week or two.

I suppose I'd better get onto the Kerryman about those "fantasy football" soccer leagues they have been trying to pass off as real all along. This could rival the moon landing in the lengths they have gone to...pictures in the paper every week for decades. I always suspected something when you had "Kerrymen" call "Galwey" playing rugby at Landsdowne road. Just sounds suspicious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 04, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
I was persuaded to go to the Westmead match on Sat night as I don't think I'd ever been to a Leinster first round match before.
I had expected Dublin to win handy enough but I at least though Westmead would put up some sort of "fight"
You could just tell from the first 5 mins and lack of bite in the tackle that Westmead had already accepted their fate with Dessie Dolan not starting. I was telling the lad I was with that in Ulster, if Tyrone were playing Antrim, Fermanagh and especially Monaghan you'd be seeing all sorts of off the ball stuff and a lot harder hits. A bit of fight and not this lying down and rolling over attitude that most teams show v Dublin in Croke Park.
The level of intensity wasn't there from the start and so Dublin knew they would get time & space to play their attractive passing game.

The last Leinster match I was at was the 2004 final between these two teams which Westmead won.
I can see now why Dublin get so uneasy before going into 1/4 final matches against the bigger guns as they know they've had such a cake walk up until then.
I read that in the 24 Leinster matches since that 2004 final, Dublin have only lost once, that freakish 11 point lose to Meath in 2010. I was joking to my mate that they should request to play in Ulster for a year or two to see how they'd fare, like Galway in the hurling. IN Ulster in the last 20 years there has been 6 different winners. Surprisingly Down haven't won it since 1996

How many different winners have there been in the last 20 years in Leinster?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 08:24:17 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 04, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 04, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
I was persuaded to go to the Westmead match on Sat night as I don't think I'd ever been to a Leinster first round match before.
I had expected Dublin to win handy enough but I at least though Westmead would put up some sort of "fight"
You could just tell from the first 5 mins and lack of bite in the tackle that Westmead had already accepted their fate with Dessie Dolan not starting. I was telling the lad I was with that in Ulster, if Tyrone were playing Antrim, Fermanagh and especially Monaghan you'd be seeing all sorts of off the ball stuff and a lot harder hits. A bit of fight and not this lying down and rolling over attitude that most teams show v Dublin in Croke Park.
The level of intensity wasn't there from the start and so Dublin knew they would get time & space to play their attractive passing game.

The last Leinster match I was at was the 2004 final between these two teams which Westmead won.
I can see now why Dublin get so uneasy before going into 1/4 final matches against the bigger guns as they know they've had such a cake walk up until then.
I read that in the 24 Leinster matches since that 2004 final, Dublin have only lost once, that freakish 11 point lose to Meath in 2010. I was joking to my mate that they should request to play in Ulster for a year or two to see how they'd fare, like Galway in the hurling. IN Ulster in the last 20 years there has been 6 different winners. Surprisingly Down haven't won it since 1996

How many different winners have there been in the last 20 years in Leinster?
2 Leinster AI winners vs 5 Ulster in the last 20 years. Kildare can win Leinster but nothing beyond that .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2013, 09:56:22 PM
Quote from: Canalman on June 04, 2013, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2013, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2013, 10:50:49 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on June 03, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 03, 2013, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: heffo on June 03, 2013, 02:43:26 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 03, 2013, 02:30:31 PM
When it comes to finances and resources available every county should be comparable. Thats the crux of the issue.

It has never been that way before so why should it be now?

What if every county got the same amount of money and some squandered it on magic beans (Kildare & Waterford two cases in point) - should they get the same again the next year off the back of a county that has been prudent?

Depends on your definition of squandered, GAA has never been bigger probably in either county, the GAA facilities outside the county grounds in Kildare are fantastic, you should check out Hawkfield, Naas, Sarsfields, Celbridge even junior clubs like Rathcoffey and Ardclough, it's the biggest sport in the county by a mile. Look at Dublin, for all their millions their not particularly prudent, their county ground is not much better than Newbridge with worse parking. How many new clubs and players in Dublin over the last decade?

Too much money in Dublin club GAA is spent on outside players, that is money squandered.
three new clubs founded within a few miles where I live in the past few years. catering for a massive number of players.
I know of at least one more over around swords.

To create parity, i think there needs to be a timetable of training, challenge matches as well as ordinary fixtures that should be adhered to. Also a set amount of players and money spent on designated things.
We need to keep the spend down and to deliver parity to all senior intercounty teams.
I still feel Dublin are on the up and will start to dominate more from now on. The bigger playing populations will (and should).
My other suggestion would be to impose an intercounty/club football/hurling set fixtures list for each season so people (players, mentors, parents, etc etc) know what days they have free (For work and holidays etc) - this is imperitive imo.
It is not as easy as bigger populations. for some counties such as Leitrim, population is an issue but Kilkenny don't have a big population.  Kerry don't either. 

Dublin kids have a lot of options sportswise and other sports like rugby and soccer are trawling for kids with promise. The GAA has a hard job bringing players up through the ranks. I bet it is easier in Tyrone. 

I was in a sports shop in Liffey valley the other day. There was only one GAA jersey variety on sale (Dub) and GAA display space was at most 5% of the soccer equivalent.   Rugby gear had way more space as well.
All your points are valid but there are other issues to take into account as well.
Do you remember the report of the committee headed by Peter Quinn that looked at the structures of the GAA and came up with recommendations for change?
(Can't recall the time but it was about 10-12 years ago.)
One such recommendation was that Dublin be split in three for GAA purposes with each region acting as a separate entity.
The howls from the true blue Dubs knocked that on the head but the basis of the proposal was valid.
Quinn and his team looked at the number of kids playing at weekends in each county and found that each of the five largest Dublin clubs could field more youngsters than any of five named counties. I know Leitrim and Fermanagh were mentioned and I think Sligo, Monaghan and Cavan were the others.
The emphasis on the suggestion was the huge drop of in participation as the age limits increased as ultimately there is only one county panel at the top of the pyramid.
That's the case in every other county as well but if Dublin was split up, the drop out rate as kids get older would decrease dramatically.
I thought the proposal deserved serious consideration. For starters, Dublin is now effectively three different counties for local government purposes.

Selective enough in  your stats there Larnaparka.

Most of the "superclubs" would have an A, B and C team only at underage level. Maybe according to the census they "could" field more than other counties but they don't and never will.

When you tot them up there aren't too many of such superclubs but they are always trotted out as the norm.

DLRCC area for example  has c210,000 people and I reckon only 8 or so GAA clubs.

Not saying that Dublin has its advantages but not to the extent widely portrayed.
I didn't mean to come across as selective; after all, those are not my stats but those of Peter Quinn's committee.
This group had a wide-ranging remit to look at the structures in all counties and to back with suggestions on how to improve those they found in need of overhaul or change. The high drop out rate of Dublin underage players was one of the items they reviewed.
The proposal they came up with was to split Dublin in three for GAA affairs with each region sporting its own county team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PAULD123 on June 05, 2013, 11:03:01 AM
Okay, Here is a comment that actually about The Sunday Game, not about how the GAA spends its money.

I watched the full Derry vs Down match again on RTE Player. I was furious that they simply do not edit the program so that we see all the action. At least three quarters of all kick outs are completely missed due to irrelevant replays (often third showing from a different angle), moody shots of the managers, or (and this has to be the best) a long lingering view of the flags fluttering. I was watching it, hear a roar from crowd, then when they finally stop showing someone rolling around in slow motion and return to the action the ball is one team's 21 yard zone and I have no idea how it got there.

Or, on return to live action, someone is lying flat on the ground and the best the commentator can say is - "Someone is lying flat on the ground, something must have happened while we were watching the replay". Which is great that they are getting paid to make these comments because if they weren't there then I personally would have been stupid enough to think that Someone is lying flat on the ground, something must have happened while we were watching the replay. AAAArgh.

Stupid editing spoiling the game, you can have no idea how the kick-outs were won.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 05, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
I had to turn it to BBC on sunday. The replays on RTE made it nigh on impossible to watch the game. They'd replay incidents 3 times, sometimes 4, and all the while the play was going on. They didn't miss goals but I think they missed the one where Madine could have had a goal.

It really was farcical.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RMDrive on June 05, 2013, 11:59:42 AM
How hard can it be to go to a split screen for the replay when the action has restarted. You see this in other sports all the time. If their interview with the coach at HT is still running when the game has restarted, they'll put the interview into a smaller box in the corner with the live action shown in a larger box. Surely that is bread and butter for a modern production team?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 05, 2013, 12:15:30 PM
It's simple. They don't care because they don't have to care.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 05, 2013, 11:38:09 PM
All the above posts aside lads... did anyone notice how dignified, generous, unselfish and classy Dermot Early junior was in his punditry on TSG the other night?  The apple don't fall far from the tree....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2013, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 05, 2013, 11:38:09 PM
All the above posts aside lads... did anyone notice how dignified, generous, unselfish and classy Dermot Early junior was in his punditry on TSG the other night?  The apple don't fall far from the tree....
+1.
You wouldn't expect any different from that family.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 07, 2013, 12:24:11 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2013, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 05, 2013, 11:38:09 PM
All the above posts aside lads... did anyone notice how dignified, generous, unselfish and classy Dermot Early junior was in his punditry on TSG the other night?  The apple don't fall far from the tree....
+1.
You wouldn't expect any different from that family.
+1x2.
So true
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 07, 2013, 12:56:02 AM
Dermot's the man to bamboozle Brolly. Sign 'em up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ranch on June 07, 2013, 03:44:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2013, 12:56:02 AM
Dermot's the man to bamboozle Brolly. Sign 'em up.

He's half decent but he's no Brolly!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 07, 2013, 06:08:27 AM
Quote from: ranch on June 07, 2013, 03:44:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2013, 12:56:02 AM
Dermot's the man to bamboozle Brolly. Sign 'em up.

He's half decent but he's no Brolly!!

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/5/31/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14864-1370018168-1.gif)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 07, 2013, 08:32:47 AM
Yes I agree Dermot Early was a classy contributor but the reality is that you will not last on RTE if you are not edgy, mouthy and controversial all in the name of "saying it like it is". Anything less than this wont last the pace. O'Hara has shown that he is willing to get into bed with Brolly and Spillane. We may not like it but we tune in to watch it, that's all that matters to RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on June 07, 2013, 10:56:47 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 07, 2013, 06:08:27 AM
Quote from: ranch on June 07, 2013, 03:44:26 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 07, 2013, 12:56:02 AM
Dermot's the man to bamboozle Brolly. Sign 'em up.

He's half decent but he's no Brolly!!

(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/5/31/12/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14864-1370018168-1.gif)
Best GIF of all time... ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 07, 2013, 11:47:56 AM
Quote from: ck on June 07, 2013, 08:32:47 AM
Yes I agree Dermot Early was a classy contributor but the reality is that you will not last on RTE if you are not edgy, mouthy and controversial all in the name of "saying it like it is". Anything less than this wont last the pace. O'Hara has shown that he is willing to get into bed with Brolly and Spillane. We may not like it but we tune in to watch it, that's all that matters to RTE.

Are ya joking, I have the upmost respect for Earley, great player and human being.........no way a pundit, boring, bland slow paced yarns and another one who will just bang his anti dublin drum for the whole summer............................and before you start "dont matter" F off
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 07, 2013, 11:58:46 AM
This can be transplanted to the "things that grind my gears" thread when it's ready:

Upmost.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on June 08, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
I really missed Brolly in his absence from last Sunday night's episode (just saw it on RTE player - my proxy is a lifesaver). He gets a fair bit wrong but he's compulsive viewing.

I thought Earley was very good. He made a lot of sense and you shouldn't have to be a pr!ck or a spoofer to be an analyst.

Hardy, if you were watching you'd have enjoyed McStay's spoofing about winning primary ball, clean catches launching serious counter attacks. If you catch that clean ball at midfield and you're making tracks while your man is still in the air, then straight away you're the extra man, creating that overlap that you need to score goals in the modern game.  

There might be  a valid point in there somewhere. I think he was saying that clean catches from kick outs often lead to goals but it got a bit lost in the jargon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 08, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
Quote from: ck on June 07, 2013, 08:32:47 AM
Yes I agree Dermot Early was a classy contributor but the reality is that you will not last on RTE if you are not edgy, mouthy and controversial all in the name of "saying it like it is". Anything less than this wont last the pace. O'Hara has shown that he is willing to get into bed with Brolly and Spillane. We may not like it but we tune in to watch it, that's all that matters to RTE.

O'Hara rants,Spillane blankets and Brolly trolling is poor quality stuff we deserve better viewing than that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 08, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on June 08, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
I really missed Brolly in his absence from last Sunday night's episode (just saw it on RTE player - my proxy is a lifesaver). He gets a fair bit wrong but he's compulsive viewing.

I thought Earley was very good. He made a lot of sense and you shouldn't have to be a pr!ck or a spoofer to be an analyst.

Hardy, if you were watching you'd have enjoyed McStay's spoofing about winning primary ball, clean catches launching serious counter attacks. If you catch that clean ball at midfield and you're making tracks while your man is still in the air, then straight away you're the extra man, creating that overlap that you need to score goals in the modern game.  

There might be  a valid point in there somewhere. I think he was saying that clean catches from kick outs often lead to goals but it got a bit lost in the jargon.


::)

I don't watch it any more. They even manage to screw up the "highlights" as they laughingly call the 20%-odd of action they show in a programme that's supposed to be about the games but has turned into a programme of whinging about the game*, spoofing about tactics and gossiping about who fouled who.

If I'm watching the live game, I go and stretch my legs when the spoofing is on before during and after the game.

(* Only if it's football, of course. If it's hurling, they sometimes actually analyse the game.)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 09, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
TSG can't be accused of being anti-gay or racist lately anyway.

Next weeks guest, the gypo from Big Brother.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2013, 11:30:41 PM
Can some (Ulster team especially) play an open brand of football next week (and probably get hammered) so that our Pateen (Spillane) can enjoy the noble game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 10, 2013, 07:34:16 AM
The Lee Chin stuff was a bit much.
Hope they don't make a habit of trying to analyse games while a player who was involved is sitting beside them on the couch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 10, 2013, 08:12:02 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 08, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on June 08, 2013, 04:50:38 PM
I really missed Brolly in his absence from last Sunday night's episode (just saw it on RTE player - my proxy is a lifesaver). He gets a fair bit wrong but he's compulsive viewing.

I thought Earley was very good. He made a lot of sense and you shouldn't have to be a pr!ck or a spoofer to be an analyst.

Hardy, if you were watching you'd have enjoyed McStay's spoofing about winning primary ball, clean catches launching serious counter attacks. If you catch that clean ball at midfield and you're making tracks while your man is still in the air, then straight away you're the extra man, creating that overlap that you need to score goals in the modern game.  

There might be  a valid point in there somewhere. I think he was saying that clean catches from kick outs often lead to goals but it got a bit lost in the jargon.


::)

I don't watch it any more. They even manage to screw up the "highlights" as they laughingly call the 20%-odd of action they show in a programme that's supposed to be about the games but has turned into a programme of whinging about the game*, spoofing about tactics and gossiping about who fouled who.

If I'm watching the live game, I go and stretch my legs when the spoofing is on before during and after the game.

(* Only if it's football, of course. If it's hurling, they sometimes actually analyse the game.)


Same as myself Hardy can't understand why people listen to them boyo's anymore .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on June 10, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 10, 2013, 07:34:16 AM
The Lee Chin stuff was a bit much.
Hope they don't make a habit of trying to analyse games while a player who was involved is sitting beside them on the couch.

To me it smacked of complete tokenism, fair enough he is a dual player but just didn't sit right with me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PAULD123 on June 10, 2013, 11:06:15 AM
The Spillane/Brolly sort of commentary is entertaining. I actually like listening to Joe, he is quite funny. The problem I have is that, while some comic relief is welcome, this is not a comedy show. The headline grabbing interjections should be significantly overshadowed by serious analysis which would help people understand what has happened.

Most of the program should be about explaining how the blanket defence works and the various nuances of the variations worked by different teams. Or discussing serious methods setting up a team with two up front or three up front. Or the best way to use handpassing combined with attacking wing-backs. When best to use a direct ball. How different teams set up their game play to suit the players they have available to them. Or how one team set up their team to specifically deal with the threats of another......etc

If this happened we might actually gain some knowledge from TSG. I'd like to see an regular segment on the life of a county footballer showing his training regime, his commitment, giving us insight to him as a person. It would be fascinating to see the different approaches between different counties. Even this could include some light-hearted stuff like "who is the laziest player in training?"...etc.

The show should be at least an hour and half long. And certainly contain a lot more intelligent and knowledgeable analysis than - Cavan double marked Jamie Clarke. How about telling us how they got away with it, as that obviously left another area exposed. Even worse is the common phrase - It was the goals that won the game? Seriously!!!!! They can sit there with smug looks on their faces, like they have just unveiled a sacred mystery, and earn their money for such blatantly obvious comments?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 10, 2013, 11:51:14 AM
Quote from: PAULD123 on June 10, 2013, 11:06:15 AM
The Spillane/Brolly sort of commentary is entertaining. I actually like listening to Joe, he is quite funny. The problem I have is that, while some comic relief is welcome, this is not a comedy show. The headline grabbing interjections should be significantly overshadowed by serious analysis which would help people understand what has happened.

Most of the program should be about explaining how the blanket defence works and the various nuances of the variations worked by different teams. Or discussing serious methods setting up a team with two up front or three up front. Or the best way to use handpassing combined with attacking wing-backs. When best to use a direct ball. How different teams set up their game play to suit the players they have available to them. Or how one team set up their team to specifically deal with the threats of another......etc

If this happened we might actually gain some knowledge from TSG. I'd like to see an regular segment on the life of a county footballer showing his training regime, his commitment, giving us insight to him as a person. It would be fascinating to see the different approaches between different counties. Even this could include some light-hearted stuff like "who is the laziest player in training?"...etc.

The show should be at least an hour and half long. And certainly contain a lot more intelligent and knowledgeable analysis than - Cavan double marked Jamie Clarke. How about telling us how they got away with it, as that obviously left another area exposed. Even worse is the common phrase - It was the goals that won the game? Seriously!!!!! They can sit there with smug looks on their faces, like they have just unveiled a sacred mystery, and earn their money for such blatantly obvious comments?

I think you'll find Pat Spillane gave a very indepth analysis of the blanket defence a few weeks ago - something along the lines of .... Donegal use an expensive home made blanket and Limerick use a cheap blanket imported from abroad. What more do you want?  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 10, 2013, 08:04:59 PM
it used to be the games not on live were shown on long highlights than evening, I rather see 3/4 games 20 - 25 mins each with only a little analysis. Highlights of games should be more than 5-10mins, we give the antrim game the exception. Louth Wexford looked to be a good game but how would i know, i was going on 5mins if that of footage. Alot of the time first game on the sunday games is highlights of the one we already watched during the day and not the others not televised which i would want to see. this would give the panel minimal time and let the football do the talking. I can analysis the way teams are set up for myself and not need the dummies guide(panel) on whats happening and why!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 10, 2013, 08:27:57 PM
The Sunday Game has become a bit Punch and Judy! Spillane with his anti-Blanket! Brolly with his pro-ulster! In Fairness bar Spillane, who is dung. Brolly, O'Rourke and McStay are decent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 10, 2013, 08:04:59 PM
it used to be the games not on live were shown on long highlights than evening, I rather see 3/4 games 20 - 25 mins each with only a little analysis. and let the football do the talking.

+1.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 10, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 10, 2013, 08:27:57 PM
The Sunday Game has become a bit Punch and Judy! Spillane with his anti-Blanket! Brolly with his pro-ulster! In Fairness bar Spillane, who is dung. Brolly, O'Rourke and McStay are decent.

Agree with this. Brolly despite his arrogance does have a strong inside knowledge for the game and i enjoy him, when he's critical he usually backs it up with valid points. O'Rourke and McStay in fairness do try to analyse the games too.
Spillane is just an a smartarse pure and simple. No real knowledge of the modern game, black and white in his views and talks utter shite most of the time. He's a Bollox and RTE love him
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2013, 10:32:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 10, 2013, 08:04:59 PM
it used to be the games not on live were shown on long highlights than evening, I rather see 3/4 games 20 - 25 mins each with only a little analysis. and let the football do the talking.

+1.
+ 1000
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2013, 10:51:27 PM
Brolly,Spillane are attention seekers they use analysis to hype themselves up. Eamon Dunphy does it on soccer and George Hook on rugby however RTE shouldn't allow it for GAA coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 10, 2013, 10:59:19 PM
Playing devils advocate here....... Usually the games shown live are the best games of the weeend, have the RTEs best commentators and have the most cameras at the games. Plus a lot of the true GAA people re away watching their club pkay during the day and miss the lives games.

But I agree with the wildweasel there, more coverage needs to be shown. I have not seen the sunday highlughts this hut to be honest I really am looking orward to watching it when I can get a chance. I miss brolly.

I tink mcstay is the best however.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 10, 2013, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 10, 2013, 10:59:19 PM
Playing devils advocate here....... Usually the games shown live are the best games of the weeend, have the RTEs best commentators and have the most cameras at the games. Plus a lot of the true GAA people re away watching their club pkay during the day and miss the lives games.

But I agree with the wildweasel there, more coverage needs to be shown. I have not seen the sunday highlughts this hut to be honest I really am looking orward to watching it when I can get a chance. I miss brolly.

I tink mcstay is the best however.

No Morrissey and Canning do most of those games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 11, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2013, 10:51:27 PM
Brolly,Spillane are attention seekers they use analysis to hype themselves up. Eamon Dunphy does it on soccer and George Hook on rugby however RTE shouldn't allow it for GAA coverage.

Why should RTE not allow it for GAA coverage? Why would GAA be any different??
Bottom line is that viewing figures are higher when you have a degree of controversy and RTE only care about viewing figures. Once RTE get over themselves with the patronising efforts to bring in minorities (Lee Chin and loosing managers) normal service will resume and Spillane and Brolly will be united once again!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 11, 2013, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: ck on June 11, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2013, 10:51:27 PM
Brolly,Spillane are attention seekers they use analysis to hype themselves up. Eamon Dunphy does it on soccer and George Hook on rugby however RTE shouldn't allow it for GAA coverage.

Why should RTE not allow it for GAA coverage? Why would GAA be any different??
Bottom line is that viewing figures are higher when you have a degree of controversy and RTE only care about viewing figures. Once RTE get over themselves with the patronising efforts to bring in minorities (Lee Chin and loosing managers) normal service will resume and Spillane and Brolly will be united once again!

Can you not see a difference between heavily criticising Paul Grimley for example on National television and criticising the massively well paid Giovanni Trappatoni or Declan Kidney?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 11, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 11, 2013, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: ck on June 11, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2013, 10:51:27 PM
Brolly,Spillane are attention seekers they use analysis to hype themselves up. Eamon Dunphy does it on soccer and George Hook on rugby however RTE shouldn't allow it for GAA coverage.

Why should RTE not allow it for GAA coverage? Why would GAA be any different??
Bottom line is that viewing figures are higher when you have a degree of controversy and RTE only care about viewing figures. Once RTE get over themselves with the patronising efforts to bring in minorities (Lee Chin and loosing managers) normal service will resume and Spillane and Brolly will be united once again!

Can you not see a difference between heavily criticising Paul Grimley for example on National television and criticising the massively well paid Giovanni Trappatoni or Declan Kidney?

Of course I can, fair point. However what do we as an audience want, patronising dribble stating that we are all GAA men and doing our best etc. Or do we accept that if you take on a high profile managers job then you are accepting scrutiny and you are up there to be shot at. Brolly was slightly indulging however all he actually said was that Grimley was out of his depth. No matter how you look at it, it's hard to argue with that point. Brolly usually can back up his criticism with strong evidence and deep understanding, Spillane can't.
Your point stands however and perhaps there are limits we should accept. I for one, am keen on Brollys views, strong or otherwise, as I believe him to be genuine and not just tryin to be sensationalist like Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
Are we not killing ourselves talking about minorities, Is the young lad not Irish born?/ Noticed him against Derry in the league at no.6, has the makings of a very good footballer
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 11, 2013, 06:29:29 PM
Quote from: ck on June 11, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 11, 2013, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: ck on June 11, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2013, 10:51:27 PM
Brolly,Spillane are attention seekers they use analysis to hype themselves up. Eamon Dunphy does it on soccer and George Hook on rugby however RTE shouldn't allow it for GAA coverage.

Why should RTE not allow it for GAA coverage? Why would GAA be any different??
Bottom line is that viewing figures are higher when you have a degree of controversy and RTE only care about viewing figures. Once RTE get over themselves with the patronising efforts to bring in minorities (Lee Chin and loosing managers) normal service will resume and Spillane and Brolly will be united once again!

Can you not see a difference between heavily criticising Paul Grimley for example on National television and criticising the massively well paid Giovanni Trappatoni or Declan Kidney?

Of course I can, fair point. However what do we as an audience want, patronising dribble stating that we are all GAA men and doing our best etc. Or do we accept that if you take on a high profile managers job then you are accepting scrutiny and you are up there to be shot at. Brolly was slightly indulging however all he actually said was that Grimley was out of his depth. No matter how you look at it, it's hard to argue with that point. Brolly usually can back up his criticism with strong evidence and deep understanding, Spillane can't.
Your point stands however and perhaps there are limits we should accept. I for one, am keen on Brollys views, strong or otherwise, as I believe him to be genuine and not just tryin to be sensationalist like Spillane.

Constructive criticism should be part of any after match analysis however Brolly,Spillane don't do that and forget its amateur sport. They try to copy pundits criticising professional athletics and all of this is only for their own personal gain. The Sunday game would be a better watch without those attention seekers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 12, 2013, 01:00:24 PM
Moaning on the airwaves is not going to improve anything, it'll more than likely do the exact opposite. Saying a 20 year old whose starting on an IC team capable if making a Leinster final will never be more than an average footballer is both insulting and premature. I would imagine it will have the effect of pushing Lee towards the footballers if a choice has to be made.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 12, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 12, 2013, 01:00:24 PM
Moaning on the airwaves is not going to improve anything, it'll more than likely do the exact opposite. Saying a 20 year old whose starting on an IC team capable if making a Leinster final will never be more than an average footballer is both insulting and premature. I would imagine it will have the effect of pushing Lee towards the footballers if a choice has to be made.

I'd agree he didn't need to make that comment, totally unnecessary and probably counterproductive if he wants Chin to throw his lot in with the hurlers.

That said he's a panel of 30 or so he needs to be seen to be fair to and if Chin was to receive any special treatment due to his dual commitments then that's going to cause him problems down the line. The press love to latch onto dual players, anything out of the ordinary and Chin ticks quite a few boxes for them in that regard, Dunne needs to treat him the same as the rest irrespective of the side show that comes with him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 12, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
Perhaps but I also think the players will accept accommodating guys who can make a difference to their team. It's not as if he is boozing it up or even playing soccer or rugby in preference to committing to hurling. In dual counties you either state you'll accept nothing other than total commitment or you accommodate dual players. If you look for total commitment you need to know you are in a position to do so and Dunne isn't. He had to chase a lot of the footballers so he should tread lightly IMO or he'll be without them soon again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 12, 2013, 05:04:14 PM
I'm surprised Dont Matter hasn't picked up on Liam Dunne's post match comment on RTE about the money Dublin get, and how he'd love some of it for counties like Wexford (and I think he said Offaly as well).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 12, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
Did Liam Dunne pass some remark about Conal Keaney as he walked past while Dunne was being interviewed after the match?
He's making a right tit of himself the last few days.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 16, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 16, 2013, 10:01:54 PM
Ricey!

i thought it was thon boy Parkinson that used to play for Leesh until Cahill said who it was !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 16, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
He's no orator in fairness! Seems like a decent fella though, not like his on-field persona ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 16, 2013, 10:53:08 PM
he and seamus o`shea bringing attention to eye brows the nite lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on June 16, 2013, 11:01:16 PM
He looks better on the radio!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2013, 10:20:20 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2013/06/joe-brolly-nothing-wrong-with-my-punditry-style/

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RMDrive on June 17, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2013, 10:20:20 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2013/06/joe-brolly-nothing-wrong-with-my-punditry-style/

Jesus wept. Everything that's wrong with RTE's GAA analysis is right there in that article. Clown.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 17, 2013, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: RMDrive on June 17, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on June 17, 2013, 10:20:20 AM
http://gaeliclife.com/2013/06/joe-brolly-nothing-wrong-with-my-punditry-style/

Jesus wept. Everything that's wrong with RTE's GAA analysis is right there in that article. Clown.

So Joe has anlaysed his own performance as a pundit and came to the conclusion that he is brilliant - there's a surprise!

He thinks he's the voice of the people because some 50 year old man beeps at him in the street in Lurgan and tells him he's brilliant. That person's view is taken on board by the bould Joe but anybody criticising him is "nonsensical". An entertaining man, but he's more suited to Apres Match than The Sunday Game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 17, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Brolly isn't afraid to speak his mind - whether he's right or wrong is neither here nor there.

Some bits in that article are hilarious -

Which brings me to the first rule of punditry: If it is something you would shout at the telly, then have the balls to say it on the telly. And when the Grimley twins appear over the back wall, run... -
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 17, 2013, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 17, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
Brolly isn't afriad to speak his mind - whether he's right or wrong is neither here nor there.

Some bits in that article are hilarious -

Which brings me to the first rule of punditry: If it is something you would shout at the telly, then have the balls to say it on the telly. And when the Grimley twins appear over the back wall, run... -

Like i said - Apres Match stuff!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on June 17, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
What was the consensus on Ricey last night?
I didn't see it myself but a few lads in work here said he came across well, if maybe a bit scruffy and edgy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on June 17, 2013, 03:52:23 PM
QuoteWhat was the consensus on Ricey last night?
I didn't see it myself but a few lads in work here said he came across well, if maybe a bit scruffy and edgy.

Nice fella, not a great speaker.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2013, 03:55:07 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 17, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
What was the consensus on Ricey last night?
I didn't see it myself but a few lads in work here said he came across well, if maybe a bit scruffy and edgy.

Didn't think he was great to be honest. Seemed to trip over his words a lot and didn't really express his thoughts coherently. Although maybe he was a bit nervous. Ciaran Whelan seemed to do 80% of the talking between them anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on June 17, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
Thought he was good but he does not have the scruffy chic of Paul Galvin.

He seemed to trip over some words but I wanted to pole axe Des when he finished off a sentence of McMenemen's.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 17, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
QuoteI'd wonder does he speak very slowly naturally or was he extremely nervous.

Now he knows how those he was marking felt...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on June 17, 2013, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 17, 2013, 05:22:08 PM
I think he has a bit of a stammer

I thought that too from after a match last year or the year before. He manages it quite well and fair play to him for going on the show if he does.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ard-Rí on June 17, 2013, 06:52:17 PM
He's a great lad. Wheelan was very nervous too when he started off, grew into the role and you'd never guess the class of bollox he was on the pitch now.
Ricey will be fine. Damnable pair of eyebrows though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
Nice to see more and more mention of the money the Dubs got to win their football All Ireland and improve at hurling. Just a pity no one mentioned the actual figure. You all know what I mean.
As Cheddar said, if Leix got the money the Dubs got we'd be a level 1 team now. Same goes for a number of other teams. Glad too that there's some murmours of equal distribution of wealth. Would be nice to see. The GAA; a fine communist organisation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 17, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
Nice to see more and more mention of the money the Dubs got to win their football All Ireland and improve at hurling. Just a pity no one mentioned the actual figure. You all know what I mean.
As Cheddar said, if Leix got the money the Dubs got we'd be a level 1 team now. Same goes for a number of other teams. Glad too that there's some murmours of equal distribution of wealth. Would be nice to see. The GAA; a fine communist organisation.

Yawn!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
Donegal spent a million and look what they did last year. Money matters, money gets you success or atleast improves your standards.
People are going on about the one sided matches, there's one way of dealing with it. Give everyone the same amount of money to prepare their teams. It's simple.
If we were listen to yawners like you, we'd still be living in caves, eating the leftovers of one another.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 17, 2013, 09:55:44 PM
What's this got to do with the Sunday game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 09:58:37 PM
It was good to see extensive highlights of the games on tg4 tonight rather than the titbits we see between talking on the sunday game!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on June 17, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2013, 09:58:37 PM
It was good to see extensive highlights of the games on tg4 tonight rather than the titbits we see between talking on the sunday game!

Sorry TSG, this how a highlights show should be done.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 17, 2013, 10:18:42 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
Donegal spent a million and look what they did last year. Money matters, money gets you success or atleast improves your standards.
People are going on about the one sided matches, there's one way of dealing with it. Give everyone the same amount of money to prepare their teams. It's simple.
If we were listen to yawners like you, we'd still be living in caves, eating the leftovers of one another.

And keyboard warriors are the basis of all good revolutions! Your points are nonsense and just repeating them regardless of the thread make me yawn.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 10:30:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 17, 2013, 10:18:42 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
Donegal spent a million and look what they did last year. Money matters, money gets you success or atleast improves your standards.
People are going on about the one sided matches, there's one way of dealing with it. Give everyone the same amount of money to prepare their teams. It's simple.
If we were listen to yawners like you, we'd still be living in caves, eating the leftovers of one another.

And keyboard warriors are the basis of all good revolutions! Your points are nonsense and just repeating them regardless of the thread make me yawn.

I'd probably yawn at your posts also, except I only remember reading two of them. The two responding to me. You're not interesting enough to get a yawn even.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 18, 2013, 04:19:35 PM
Thought Whelan was good the other night, some decent enough analysis. He probably won't last long.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on June 18, 2013, 05:40:53 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 17, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
What was the consensus on Ricey last night?
I didn't see it myself but a few lads in work here said he came across well, if maybe a bit scruffy and edgy.

Unbelievable that they've put someone on as a pundit who has a speech impediment. The only reason I can see for it is to get a Tyrone perspective since micky hartes boycott still seems to be ongoing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2013, 08:14:31 PM
I'm sure Ricey is a decent lad but he's no TV pundit.
RTE should give Anthony Moyles a gig, he's excellent on Newstalk.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
I dont like him due to his on field exploits but he get on ok talking on the Sunday game. just cause he may have a stammer etc i dont see it a reason to highlight this on here. i know people with stammers and it does shake there confidence if people were talking about it. Am sure Ryan Mc no different and will realise people may highlight that. I think give him a chance and he work out on tv in the long run. Hell he could be my new Ian wright, hated him on the field but grew to like him on TV off it. lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2013, 10:00:48 PM
I couldn't care less if he has Tourettes.
I just don't think he's a good pundit/analyst.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: kilkenny footballer on June 19, 2013, 10:11:17 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on June 17, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
Donegal spent a million and look what they did last year. Money matters, money gets you success or atleast improves your standards.
People are going on about the one sided matches, there's one way of dealing with it. Give everyone the same amount of money to prepare their teams. It's simple.
If we were listen to yawners like you, we'd still be living in caves, eating the leftovers of one another.
donegal didnt spend much!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 20, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Good to see the show is now available worldwide on the RTE player
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggy90 on June 20, 2013, 06:39:13 AM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on June 20, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
Good to see the show is now available worldwide on the RTE player

Didn't realise that, great news.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ziggy90 on June 20, 2013, 06:40:33 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
I dont like him due to his on field exploits but he get on ok talking on the Sunday game. just cause he may have a stammer etc i dont see it a reason to highlight this on here. i know people with stammers and it does shake there confidence if people were talking about it. Am sure Ryan Mc no different and will realise people may highlight that. I think give him a chance and he work out on tv in the long run. Hell he could be my new Ian wright, hated him on the field but grew to like him on TV off it. lol

It would've been the other way round for me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Des Cahill at his work again tonight trying to draw donal og into slagging jimmy barry murphy. Fair play to donal og for not being drawn in.

Des looked disappointed. I'd be disappointed in him for being up to that kind of caper again and trying to make headlines for drawing ex players into slating managers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 23, 2013, 11:59:41 PM
"Read my lips....... NO!"
::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Celt_Man on June 24, 2013, 12:33:10 AM
Pat has lost the plot...  Gross generalisation "Down's tactics weren't a success because they didn't win"

Right well sure any team that doesn't win the All-Ireland are a bunch of losers!!   ::) ::)

Eamonn Sweeney hit the nail on the head in today's Sunday Indo  http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/eamonn-sweeney-time-to-put-a-sock-in-it-pat-29365782.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2013, 02:04:08 AM
Those deck chairs are looking nicely rearranged.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 24, 2013, 09:55:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Des Cahill at his work again tonight trying to draw donal og into slagging jimmy barry murphy. Fair play to donal og for not being drawn in.

Des looked disappointed. I'd be disappointed in him for being up to that kind of caper again and trying to make headlines for drawing ex players into slating managers.

I've been very impressed with Donal Og any time he's been on there. Pat could take a few lessons from him on how to analyse a match rather than his "It's foot ball for a reason . . . you need to kick the ball" line that gets trotted out time after time.

His comments yesterday were stupid. Down were the first team to rattle Donegal in a long time and only Donegal have been playing that way much longer they could well have been beat yesterday. I think Down have provided the blueprint for Mayo, Cork, Dublin, Kerry to beat Donegal this year and as a result they won't win the All Ireland unless Jim can come up with some other plan!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: FermGael on June 24, 2013, 10:03:24 AM
Could not agree more Screenexile.
You could see the Donegal players were becoming increasingly frustrated by the Down approach.
I actually found the game very enjoyable.  Hard hitting, excellent defence with Donegal just having a bit more class up front. 

It's a pity that Pat did not analyse the game properly.
He is becoming a bit of an embarrassment at this stage
Any time Down kicked the ball in early it was easy ball for the Donegal defence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
The hurling punditry really is superb. You don't mind those boys talking and not seeing just as much of the game. The football punditry in comparison to the hurling is an embarassment. Really Spillane has had his day and adds no value any more.It's not like he's getting people to listen - he's not.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 24, 2013, 10:42:47 AM
Dublin came up with the blueprint to beat Donegal. I thought all the big teams would do what Dublin did two years ago and Down did yesterday, i.e, play Donegal at their own game and trust you've more quality up front to win a low scoring game.

As for Spillane, I haven't seen the Sunday game yet but you know he'll be useless. We could all disagree with a pundit but if they can make coherent, sensible comments on the game that just played out then you can accept their views whether you agree or not. Spillane just talks the same nonsense everytime and offers no insight into the actual game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on June 24, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
It's a pity Tv 3 didn't get more games. Fairly good coverage, and generally talk about the game. Not stuck in the 70's like Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2013, 10:49:18 AM
It's not easy getting TV3 up north so preferably the less games they get the better... :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 24, 2013, 10:52:59 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on June 24, 2013, 12:33:10 AM
Pat has lost the plot...  Gross generalisation "Down's tactics weren't a success because they didn't win"

Right well sure any team that doesn't win the All-Ireland are a bunch of losers!!   ::) ::)

Eamonn Sweeney hit the nail on the head in today's Sunday Indo  http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/eamonn-sweeney-time-to-put-a-sock-in-it-pat-29365782.html

That has been the attitude of the football pundits for years. It contrasts sharply with the hurling pundits who just seem to love the game unconditionally.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shawshank on June 24, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
I made this point quite a while ago, and I could never understand why Harte changed his tactics from last year. Last season Tyrone were the only team to put Donegal to the wire in the Ulster semi final, because they played Donegal using the Donegal tactics, the same as Down did yesterday.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 24, 2013, 11:15:14 AM
Quote from: FermGael on June 24, 2013, 10:03:24 AM
It's a pity that Pat did not analyse the game properly.
He is becoming a bit of an embarrassment at this stage
Total embarrassment now.
He must have been on happy pills about the Laythrum/London game. While it was close, intense and exciting it wasn't much good in the footballing sense. He also sadi that the Provincials are great because there's no second chance.

Meanwhile the "highlights" managed to avoid showing the last second 45 that Leitrim kicked wide but did show the Goalie's kick out afterwards.
Can TG4 and Dara Ó Cinnéide plus Jarlath Burns and a few others PLEEEEAAAASSSE bring back their Seó Spóirt and combine it with GAA Beó to give us a proper GAA highlights/small bit of proper analysis show ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 24, 2013, 11:30:34 AM
Why does Colm O'Rourke insist on calling Conor Laverty "John"? He was at it yesterday on the Sunday Game and did the same in his Sindo column.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 24, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
Spillane hasnt kicked a football at inter county level in over 20 years and he has never managed at any level of note. If a person applied for the high profile job he fulfills with that sort of recent relevant, work based experience they wouldnt get within an asses roar of the job. Its hardly surprising then, as a pundit, his analysis doesnt get anywhere near what is actually happening on the field of play. His analysis is an embarrassment to the RTE and I really cant believe they still pay him to produce his drivel week in week out. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on June 24, 2013, 12:59:25 PM
GAA 2013 on TG4 is the highlights show for me.

Can people who are fluent tell me if the Commentators on TG4 talk as much nonsense as the commentators on RTE/TV3?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2013, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 24, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
Spillane hasnt kicked a football at inter county level in over 20 years and he has never managed at any level of note. If a person applied for the high profile job he fulfills with that sort of recent relevant, work based experience they wouldnt get within an asses roar of the job. Its hardly surprising then, as a pundit, his analysis doesnt get anywhere near what is actually happening on the field of play. His analysis is an embarrassment to the RTE and I really cant believe they still pay him to produce his drivel week in week out.
I am not sure that his job is to give decent analysis.
He is there to draw in the viewers, I think.
If RTE focused on decent analysis it would be a very
different media organisation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Yeah, good auld Romantic Pateen. Counties like Donegal used to be favourites of him playing the nice football. Winning a few games and getting hammered in some back door before August. It was the way the game should be played. Good kicking of the ball, high fielding, open defences, High ball into the full forward line and Kerry winning another AI. Ah the good auld days! Ulster was a nice province that beat the sh*t out of each other before giving a sorta challenge match to the Leinster or Munster Champions before the AI Final. The natural order.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Yeah, good auld Romantic Pateen. Counties like Donegal used to be favourites of him playing the nice football. Winning a few games and getting hammered in some back door before August. It was the way the game should be played. Good kicking of the ball, high fielding, open defences, High ball into the full forward line and Kerry winning another AI. Ah the good auld days! Ulster was a nice province that beat the sh*t out of each other before giving a sorta challenge match to the Leinster or Munster Champions before the AI Final. The natural order.

Arrah here now. He was calling our stuff 'glamour' football long before a blanket was sighted in the Donnybrook. I heard he got a good clipeen in the '80 AI final and never forgave us.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on June 24, 2013, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Yeah, good auld Romantic Pateen. Counties like Donegal used to be favourites of him playing the nice football. Winning a few games and getting hammered in some back door before August. It was the way the game should be played. Good kicking of the ball, high fielding, open defences, High ball into the full forward line and Kerry winning another AI. Ah the good auld days! Ulster was a nice province that beat the sh*t out of each other before giving a sorta challenge match to the Leinster or Munster Champions before the AI Final. The natural order.

natural order has been restored. you just play shite football now winning sometimes. Leave the quality to the aristocrats. 8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on June 24, 2013, 07:14:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 23, 2013, 11:28:13 PM
Des Cahill at his work again tonight trying to draw donal og into slagging jimmy barry murphy. Fair play to donal og for not being drawn in.

Des looked disappointed. I'd be disappointed in him for being up to that kind of caper again and trying to make headlines for drawing ex players into slating managers.

I thought it was a fair enough question, given O Halpin's profile and the history in Cork, but there was no chance of Cusack having a pop at JBM after a performance and result like that. He would have sounded ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Yeah, good auld Romantic Pateen. Counties like Donegal used to be favourites of him playing the nice football. Winning a few games and getting hammered in some back door before August. It was the way the game should be played. Good kicking of the ball, high fielding, open defences, High ball into the full forward line and Kerry winning another AI. Ah the good auld days! Ulster was a nice province that beat the sh*t out of each other before giving a sorta challenge match to the Leinster or Munster Champions before the AI Final. The natural order.

Arrah here now. He was calling our stuff 'glamour' football long before a blanket was sighted in the Donnybrook. I heard he got a good clipeen in the '80 AI final and never forgave us.

Don't know if you were old enough to remember, but that was one that got away - Ros 1980. Decided to ruffle up Kerry and forgot to play football for the closing 15 minutes. I was even cheering for Ros that day. That was the end of a great Ros team. They were followed in Connacht by the breakthrough Mayo '81 team and huge drop in standard!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 24, 2013, 08:52:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Yeah, good auld Romantic Pateen. Counties like Donegal used to be favourites of him playing the nice football. Winning a few games and getting hammered in some back door before August. It was the way the game should be played. Good kicking of the ball, high fielding, open defences, High ball into the full forward line and Kerry winning another AI. Ah the good auld days! Ulster was a nice province that beat the sh*t out of each other before giving a sorta challenge match to the Leinster or Munster Champions before the AI Final. The natural order.

Arrah here now. He was calling our stuff 'glamour' football long before a blanket was sighted in the Donnybrook. I heard he got a good clipeen in the '80 AI final and never forgave us.

Don't know if you were old enough to remember, but that was one that got away - Ros 1980. Decided to ruffle up Kerry and forgot to play football for the closing 15 minutes. I was even cheering for Ros that day. That was the end of a great Ros team. They were followed in Connacht by the breakthrough Mayo '81 team and huge drop in standard!

Never let the truth get in the way of a lazy well worn media myth. Up there with "Mayo shit themselves in Croker". Neither of which are true. I was old enough to remember and was there that day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haze on June 24, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=30xUl_vY6co

At least Pat is consistent...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 10:44:20 PM
Quote from: haze on June 24, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=30xUl_vY6co

At least Pat is consistent...

Classic!  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on June 25, 2013, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 24, 2013, 12:59:25 PM
GAA 2013 on TG4 is the highlights show for me.

Can people who are fluent tell me if the Commentators on TG4 talk as much nonsense as the commentators on RTE/TV3?

No, they don't, is the short answer. The main commentators are good pros, while not being spectacular. Coman Goggins' Irish is weak, really, but his analysis is ok. The best GAA commentator in any language at the moment is Seán Bán Breathnach on Raidió na Gaeltachta. If RTÉ had any regard for the GAA they would have had SBB take over from Micheál Ó Muircheartaigh but the don't, and that's why we've the situation we have. Sigh.

Quote from: ross matt on June 24, 2013, 08:52:38 PM
Never let the truth get in the way of a lazy well worn media myth. Up there with "Mayo shit themselves in Croker". Neither of which are true. I was old enough to remember and was there that day.

Someday Matt I'd love to get your take on that game. The Ros-tried-to-mix-it narrative is the one that endures. I'd be fascinated to get another view. I think even Mick O'Dwyer himself said that if his Kerry team should have lost any of the eight they won, they should have lost in 1980. Whether was that true or the usual plamás I don't know, but I'd love to read your take on it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 25, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 24, 2013, 08:52:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 24, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
Yeah, good auld Romantic Pateen. Counties like Donegal used to be favourites of him playing the nice football. Winning a few games and getting hammered in some back door before August. It was the way the game should be played. Good kicking of the ball, high fielding, open defences, High ball into the full forward line and Kerry winning another AI. Ah the good auld days! Ulster was a nice province that beat the sh*t out of each other before giving a sorta challenge match to the Leinster or Munster Champions before the AI Final. The natural order.

Arrah here now. He was calling our stuff 'glamour' football long before a blanket was sighted in the Donnybrook. I heard he got a good clipeen in the '80 AI final and never forgave us.

Don't know if you were old enough to remember, but that was one that got away - Ros 1980. Decided to ruffle up Kerry and forgot to play football for the closing 15 minutes. I was even cheering for Ros that day. That was the end of a great Ros team. They were followed in Connacht by the breakthrough Mayo '81 team and huge drop in standard!

Never let the truth get in the way of a lazy well worn media myth. Up there with "Mayo shit themselves in Croker". Neither of which are true. I was old enough to remember and was there that day.
Sorry, matt, but I too was at the game and I tend to agree with FTB on this one- Roscommon had the winning of that game but lost their composure in the closing stages. I don't know if there was a deliberate change of tactics or not but the end result was the same. Ross lost a game they could/should have won.
It wasn't all a lazy media myth either; much of the criticism in the aftermath came from disgruntled fans. So much so that someone connected with Ross GAA  brought out a book some years later. Can't  recall the title or the author but the late Demot Earley appeared on the Late Late to give the team's version of events.
Dermot said the players had taken much criticism from home and abroad and never got to tell their side of the story.
This was their attempt to do so. I don't know what sales were like but certainly much of the criticism was coming  from Ross supporters.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
Lar.... Iorla.... in response to your posts......

Dermot Early stated that the reason Roscommon lost the 1980 final was because "the fear of losing overtook the desire to win". That would also be my take on it. I agree that Ross should have won and that they blew it but I reject the (accepted as gospel by people who've never seen the game) view that the match was lost because we tried to rough up Kerry.

In Paudie, kennelly, Power etc the Kingdom had plenty of hard men of their own. In Spillane they had a brilliant footballer who was also an early exponent of diving to win frees, waste time etc. Roscommon were a fine footballing side who also were powerful physical men. It  was always going to be tough and tight.

I dont think the Roscommon team expected to get such a brilliant start. When they did they didnt show the ruthlessness to push on and continue to put in early ball to the likes of Tony Mac and Jigger. They retreated in to themselves and most of them (including Early who gave away alot of possession) played beneath themselves.

They weren't helped by a ref who gave some very dubious frees to Kerry. Thats where the criticism of Ross supporters was directed not their own team.

Anyway it was the end of a great team in a great era for Roscommon football. Long time ago now with the likes of Early, Paudie, Egan, Kennelly sadly deceased.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 25, 2013, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
Lar.... Iorla.... in response to your posts......

Dermot Early stated that the reason Roscommon lost the 1980 final was because "the fear of losing overtook the desire to win". That would also be my take on it. I agree that Ross should have won and that they blew it but I reject the (accepted as gospel by people who've never seen the game) view that the match was lost because we tried to rough up Kerry.

In Paudie, kennelly, Power etc the Kingdom had plenty of hard men of their own. In Spillane they had a brilliant footballer who was also an early exponent of diving to win frees, waste time etc. Roscommon were a fine footballing side who also were powerful physical men. It  was always going to be tough and tight.

I dont think the Roscommon team expected to get such a brilliant start. When they did they didnt show the ruthlessness to push on and continue to put in early ball to the likes of Tony Mac and Jigger. They retreated in to themselves and most of them (including Early who gave away alot of possession) played beneath themselves.

They weren't helped by a ref who gave some very dubious frees to Kerry. Thats where the criticism of Ross supporters was directed not their own team.

Anyway it was the end of a great team in a great era for Roscommon football. Long time ago now with the likes of Early, Paudie, Egan, Kennelly sadly deceased.

matt,

I think it's actually one and the same. I remember that game, and I remember Roscommon being very physical, and losing their own momentum because of it. However, maybe it was cause and effect. Maybe the fear of losing made them start to panic and do things they wouldn't ordinarily, which then manifested itself in an unusually robust style as they tried to right the ship. Whatever, I certainly think the Rossies beat themselves that day, and their approach contributed to that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 25, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
This week's Sunday Game is set to be the longest edition in the history of the show. The Sunday night programme in its 34th year will be running for over two and a half hours.

This week's show is especially long due to the first round of the football qualifiers taking place along with both Ulster and Leinster semi-finals. Added to these are the replays from last weekend's drawn matches in the Connacht football semi-final and Leinster hurling semi-final after London and Dublin nearly caused major shocks.

Des Cahill tweeted earlier expressing his excitement for the upcoming show:
@sportsdes1h: This week's #SundayGame will be the longest EVER highlights edition in the programme's 34 year history. 8.30pm - 10.40pm. Cant wait! #GAA


Fixtures include:

Leinster SFC semi-finals
Dublin v Kildare
Meath v Wexford

Connacht SFC semi-final replay
London v Leitrim

Ulster SFC semi-final
Monaghan v Cavan

All-Ireland SFC Qualifiers Round 1
Armagh v Wicklow
Derry v Sligo
Longford v Limerick
Galway v Tipperary
Offaly v Tyrone
Louth v Antrim
Westmeath v Fermanagh
Carlow v Laois

Ulster SHC semi-final
Derry v Down

Leinster SHC semi-final replay
Kilkenny v Dublin

All-Ireland SHC Qualifiers Phase 1
Wexford v Carlow
Westmeath v Waterford - See more at: http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=195257#sthash.L0TYeM0W.dpuf




How much slagging can be done in the space of 2 1/2 hours??????????
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 25, 2013, 04:03:06 PM

Can the Sunday Game be got anywhere online in the north?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 25, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
This week's Sunday Game is set to be the longest edition in the history of the show. The Sunday night programme in its 34th year will be running for over two and a half hours.

How much slagging can be done in the space of 2 1/2 hours??????????
Wouldn't it be only great if we got 2 hours 10 mins of action and only 20 mins of bulls "analysis" ?
I suppose we'll be lucky to get half an hour of action and all the Qualifiers together will get about 3 minutes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2013, 05:39:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 25, 2013, 04:01:54 PM
This week's Sunday Game is set to be the longest edition in the history of the show. The Sunday night programme in its 34th year will be running for over two and a half hours.

How much slagging can be done in the space of 2 1/2 hours??????????
Wouldn't it be only great if we got 2 hours 10 mins of action and only 20 mins of bulls "analysis" ?
I suppose we'll be lucky to get half an hour of action and all the Qualifiers together will get about 3 minutes.

More annoyingly the first 2 hours will be devoted to the 3 games that were shown live already and then 10 mins plus analysis for the qualifiers and the hurling...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 25, 2013, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
Lar.... Iorla.... in response to your posts......

Dermot Early stated that the reason Roscommon lost the 1980 final was because "the fear of losing overtook the desire to win". That would also be my take on it. I agree that Ross should have won and that they blew it but I reject the (accepted as gospel by people who've never seen the game) view that the match was lost because we tried to rough up Kerry.

In Paudie, kennelly, Power etc the Kingdom had plenty of hard men of their own. In Spillane they had a brilliant footballer who was also an early exponent of diving to win frees, waste time etc. Roscommon were a fine footballing side who also were powerful physical men. It  was always going to be tough and tight.

I dont think the Roscommon team expected to get such a brilliant start. When they did they didnt show the ruthlessness to push on and continue to put in early ball to the likes of Tony Mac and Jigger. They retreated in to themselves and most of them (including Early who gave away alot of possession) played beneath themselves.

They weren't helped by a ref who gave some very dubious frees to Kerry. Thats where the criticism of Ross supporters was directed not their own team.

Anyway it was the end of a great team in a great era for Roscommon football. Long time ago now with the likes of Early, Paudie, Egan, Kennelly sadly deceased.

matt,

I think it's actually one and the same. I remember that game, and I remember Roscommon being very physical, and losing their own momentum because of it. However, maybe it was cause and effect. Maybe the fear of losing made them start to panic and do things they wouldn't ordinarily, which then manifested itself in an unusually robust style as they tried to right the ship. Whatever, I certainly think the Rossies beat themselves that day, and their approach contributed to that.

Fair enough AZ. I know your view is genuine as always. Agree with 90% of it but obviously still hold the view we were unfairly stereotyped re the rough stuff on the day.

Plus if Dermot Early thought the Rossies were overly physical in their approach to the match he'd have been the first man to admit it. Anyway it's all ancient history now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
What would we give to get to a Final now  :-\
In my innocence I thought we'd keep coming back till we'd eventually win it maybe in 82 or 83  :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 25, 2013, 09:51:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
What would we give to get to a Final now  :-\
In my innocence I thought we'd keep coming back till we'd eventually win it maybe in 82 or 83  :-[

Ah ladeen, we've already pocketed one senior AI this year - we have to let the poor bucks in other counties have a chance too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
What would we give to get to a Final now  :-\
In my innocence I thought we'd keep coming back till we'd eventually win it maybe in 82 or 83  :-[

Me too Rossfan but in fairness to those guys they'd won 4 provincial titles in a row + a league title and a league final appearance and an AI U-21 title & AI U-21 final appearance between 77 & 83. Time wasn't on their side.

Early himself is quoted as saying had they won the AI semi in 09 v the Dubs (which they lost by a point) they would have subsequently lost that final but would have garnered enough experience to win the following (1980) one. Who Knows if he was right but there is some logic to his view. Those players definitely deserved an AI senior medal but in sport you dont always get what you deserve.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 26, 2013, 12:17:39 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 25, 2013, 04:03:06 PM

Can the Sunday Game be got anywhere online in the north?

Someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the Sunday Game is now available worldwide rather than just the 26th counties.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 26, 2013, 01:01:00 AM
The Sunday Game is available anywhere in Ireland, so shouldn't be a problem in the North as long as your ISP knows where it is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on June 26, 2013, 07:55:37 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
Lar.... Iorla.... in response to your posts......

Dermot Early stated that the reason Roscommon lost the 1980 final was because "the fear of losing overtook the desire to win". That would also be my take on it. I agree that Ross should have won and that they blew it but I reject the (accepted as gospel by people who've never seen the game) view that the match was lost because we tried to rough up Kerry.

In Paudie, kennelly, Power etc the Kingdom had plenty of hard men of their own. In Spillane they had a brilliant footballer who was also an early exponent of diving to win frees, waste time etc. Roscommon were a fine footballing side who also were powerful physical men. It  was always going to be tough and tight.

I dont think the Roscommon team expected to get such a brilliant start. When they did they didnt show the ruthlessness to push on and continue to put in early ball to the likes of Tony Mac and Jigger. They retreated in to themselves and most of them (including Early who gave away alot of possession) played beneath themselves.

They weren't helped by a ref who gave some very dubious frees to Kerry. Thats where the criticism of Ross supporters was directed not their own team.

Anyway it was the end of a great team in a great era for Roscommon football. Long time ago now with the likes of Early, Paudie, Egan, Kennelly sadly deceased.

Thanks for that Matt. I have no memory of the game myself and, while it's been on TG4 since, it's a mistake, I think, to judge those games out of their times. It was a different game, really.

One thing I do remember though is my father always despised Pat Spillane for lying down for a free in that game, a free that he hopped up and pointed once the free was given. Pat's inclined to give out about players not being manly now. Funny how it goes. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to go on the record.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 26, 2013, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
What would we give to get to a Final now  :-\
In my innocence I thought we'd keep coming back till we'd eventually win it maybe in 82 or 83  :-[

Me too Rossfan but in fairness to those guys they'd won 4 provincial titles in a row + a league title and a league final appearance and an AI U-21 title & AI U-21 final appearance between 77 & 83. Time wasn't on their side.

Early himself is quoted as saying had they won the AI semi in 09 v the Dubs (which they lost by a point) they would have subsequently lost that final but would have garnered enough experience to win the following (1980) one.

I now know that team had reached the end of it's "natural cycle" by 1980 but back then like yourself i was young(er) and (more) innocent. :D
The Semi loss in 79 was the real killer alright. See hoe Offaly lost the 81 Final but were still young enough in team terms to come back in 82 with the experience of a Final under their belts.

By the way Syfín - St Brigid's CLUB won the CLUB final. While it was grand at the time and better than a team from some other County they are not "WE" unless you as a ST B's childín.
Otherwise you could be accused of being  an unashamed bandwagon hopper/glory hunter. I think you'll find Manch Utd have that market well cornered so off to Old Trafford with you. 8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2013, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 26, 2013, 10:50:01 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 25, 2013, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2013, 09:36:22 PM
What would we give to get to a Final now  :-\
In my innocence I thought we'd keep coming back till we'd eventually win it maybe in 82 or 83  :-[

Me too Rossfan but in fairness to those guys they'd won 4 provincial titles in a row + a league title and a league final appearance and an AI U-21 title & AI U-21 final appearance between 77 & 83. Time wasn't on their side.

Early himself is quoted as saying had they won the AI semi in 09 v the Dubs (which they lost by a point) they would have subsequently lost that final but would have garnered enough experience to win the following (1980) one.

I now know that team had reached the end of it's "natural cycle" by 1980 but back then like yourself i was young(er) and (more) innocent. :D
The Semi loss in 79 was the real killer alright. See hoe Offaly lost the 81 Final but were still young enough in team terms to come back in 82 with the experience of a Final under their belts.

By the way Syfín - St Brigid's CLUB won the CLUB final. While it was grand at the time and better than a team from some other County they are not "WE" unless you as a ST B's childín.
Otherwise you could be accused of being  an unashamed bandwagon hopper/glory hunter. I think you'll find Manch Utd have that market well cornered so off to Old Trafford with you. 8)

I've been on the bandwagon since 2006, boss!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 30, 2013, 08:37:20 PM
Can someone stick up a link to the live player showing the SG. It isnonly giving me the option to watch Fair City!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 30, 2013, 08:39:43 PM
Sunday game show the qualifiers hell no, lets reshow the games already on tv today / last night, plus another 30mins wasted on discussion instead of showing the games,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sans pessimism on June 30, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 30, 2013, 08:37:20 PM
Can someone stick up a link to the live player showing the SG. It isnonly giving me the option to watch Fair City!!
The way things are gone on the  SG you're better
off watching Fair City
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on June 30, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
Have to agree in that the 'coverage' they give the qualifiers and less glamour ties is poor. Expecting about 10 mins highlights of the qualifiers and about 5 from the London game....2 of which will be the arrival at the airport and coming off the bus at Hyde park.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on June 30, 2013, 09:04:28 PM
Christ the commentator for the Carlow Wexford game was dreadful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2013, 09:10:32 PM
Wexford put one in the onion sack...

What odds on cahill putting eamon o'hara on the spot over walsh resigning?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
Monaghan and Cavan on now! Feck we had 2 hours of that last night between the game and analysis! Do we need to see Highlights (and listen to Morrissey and Carney again)?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 30, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
been nice to see the games on tv the nite that havent featured over the wkend, i presume the meath game then dublin will be up next
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on June 30, 2013, 09:17:31 PM
Eamon O'Hara a bit much on the blusher 8) 8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 30, 2013, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 30, 2013, 10:33:11 PM
Grimley!  :D

Can't believe RTÉ are letting this run.

speak to me....................................................

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
McStay is fairly selling an Intermediate Championship tonight. Hard to blame him?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2013, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
McStay is fairly selling an Intermediate Championship tonight. Hard to blame him?

I don't think many will buy it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on June 30, 2013, 10:41:42 PM
And a junior championship.......maybe he has a point....not pleasant viewing for anyone football fans from Wickla, Offaly....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 30, 2013, 11:00:04 PM
Have this taped. Much on the qualifiers?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on June 30, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
I thought it was really well  put together tonight, they had a lot to cover and did a good job. The nation of moaners seem content in whinging i see though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 30, 2013, 11:01:55 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 30, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
I thought it was really well  put together tonight, they had a lot to cover and did a good job. The nation of moaners seem content in whinging i see though.

will it appear on the rte website for us in the mainland tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2013, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
McStay is fairly selling an Intermediate Championship tonight. Hard to blame him?

I don't think many will buy it.

Jez there has been some hammerings in the Championship this year.

Limerick beaten by 18 by Cork
Waterford Beaten by 26 by Kerry
Tipperary Beaten by 17 by Kerry
Carlow beaten by 11 by Westmeath
Laois beaten by 10 by Louth
Westmeath beaten by 16 by Dublin
Kildare beaten by 16 by Dublin
New York Beaten by Leitrim by 24
Galway beaten by 17 by Mayo
Roscommon beaten by 12 by Mayo
Carlow beaten by 10 by Laois
Limerick beaten by 12 by Limerick
Wicklow beaten by 25 by Armagh
Offaly beaten by 22 by Tyrone


None of these results have been in the Ulster Championship and No Ulster team has been hammered in the backdoor!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2013, 11:07:34 PM
That's cause there are too many men behind the ball so hammerings are a lot more difficult to dish out...

Antrim would have been ham,ered by monaghan but for so many men behind the ball.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
How can a wing forward and wing back from opposing teams, that were marking each other, BOTH be nominated for man of the match?  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Oraisteach on June 30, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Impressive stats, Bunker.  But I'm amused that Limerick walloped Limerick.  I think you hit the Armagh problem square on the head with that one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2013, 11:18:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2013, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
McStay is fairly selling an Intermediate Championship tonight. Hard to blame him?

I don't think many will buy it.

Jez there has been some hammerings in the Championship this year.

Limerick beaten by 18 by Cork
Waterford Beaten by 26 by Kerry
Tipperary Beaten by 17 by Kerry
Carlow beaten by 11 by Westmeath
Laois beaten by 10 by Louth
Westmeath beaten by 16 by Dublin
Kildare beaten by 16 by Dublin
New York Beaten by Leitrim by 24
Galway beaten by 17 by Mayo
Roscommon beaten by 12 by Mayo
Carlow beaten by 10 by Laois
Limerick beaten by 12 by Limerick
Wicklow beaten by 25 by Armagh
Offaly beaten by 22 by Tyrone


None of these results have been in the Ulster Championship and No Ulster team has been hammered in the backdoor!

Dublin were hammered by Tyrone,Kerry not so long ago and Donegal likewise before Jim McGuinness arrived. What works at club level will hardly work at county level. All counties want to compete in the senior championship and it's not all about winning the All Ireland or reaching Croke park, what interest would sides have intermediate championship? about the same as Tommy Murphy cup i'd say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2013, 11:08:42 PM
How can a wing forward and wing back from opposing teams, that were marking each other, BOTH be nominated for man of the match?  ::)

Speaks for itself - They were not arsed marking each other and made each other look good!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 30, 2013, 11:21:57 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 30, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
I thought it was really well  put together tonight, they had a lot to cover and did a good job. The nation of moaners seem content in whinging i see though.
Coverage was average at best. More talking that highlights and more minutes for the games that were already live.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on June 30, 2013, 11:18:03 PM
Impressive stats, Bunker.  But I'm amused that Limerick walloped Limerick.  I think you hit the Armagh problem square on the head with that one.

Longford - Apologies - getting tired!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
Spillane not being there makes it so much better though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
Spillane not being there makes it so much better though.

Was just thinking that. It was refreshing to hear McStay not use useless Comical metaphors that Spllane uses for team who got a hiding or things just did not go their way. He'd call it that they were in trouble or going backwards and leave it like that. There is a bit more manners and not belittling of Counties that put in a fair effort but just not up to the mark (at the moment).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 01, 2013, 11:39:51 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 30, 2013, 11:28:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 30, 2013, 11:23:04 PM
Spillane not being there makes it so much better though.

Was just thinking that. It was refreshing to hear McStay not use useless Comical metaphors that Spllane uses for team who got a hiding or things just did not go their way. He'd call it that they were in trouble or going backwards and leave it like that. There is a bit more manners and not belittling of Counties that put in a fair effort but just not up to the mark (at the moment).

Used to hate McStay co commentating on matches but he is much better in the studio than in a co commentators role where he tended to over dramatise a game. He actually comes across well in the studio.

Grimley having another pop back at Brolly was funny as well, if it helps motivate his team I see no harm in it. Would love to be standing 5 yards away the next time those 2 encounter each other. I'd say Brolly would run a mile blowing kisses in the process. Brolly will be loving all this attention again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: naka on July 01, 2013, 11:56:38 AM
grimley trying to keep the issue going to develope a seige mentality
whether he likes it or not brolly`s analysis was spot on the only issue was that his delivery was poor.
arnagh played a sweeper yesterday
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 11:58:59 AM
McStay was good last night I thought.
Himself and Whelo would make a good analysis team.
Is there anyway of getting rid of Morrissey and Carney as commentators?
I hope Darragh Maloney comes back into the mix now the confederations cup is over.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 01, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
Quote from: naka on July 01, 2013, 11:56:38 AM
grimley trying to keep the issue going to develope a seige mentality
whether he likes it or not brolly`s analysis was spot on the only issue was that his delivery was poor.
arnagh played a sweeper yesterday

Did the Orange Order teach you how to spell that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
I thought they did a reasonably good job in fairness last night, with all they had to get through. They showed way too much of Offaly-Tyrone though!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 01, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Watched the Cavan v Monaghan match the other night and the camera man must have been a lad on work experience. More interested in showing shots of the managers, Jim McGuinness and inappropriate replays when the action was still going on. Missed one point for Monaghan completely due to a replay being shown.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
In fairness that's not the camera man. They just shoot what they are told. It's the producer that says 'Camera 1' or whatever when he/she sees what each camera is looking at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: kilkenny footballer on July 01, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
i missed it last night but i heard it was good! was o hara good?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 12:45:00 PM
I thought he was fine, and I liked that he didn't stick the boot into Walsh. He didn't back off his comments, but he said he thought Walsh would do a good job in Galway some day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 01, 2013, 12:48:12 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 12:25:44 PM
In fairness that's not the camera man. They just shoot what they are told. It's the producer that says 'Camera 1' or whatever when he/she sees what each camera is looking at.

Fair enough, the producer then!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 01:32:04 PM
How come they don't pick out good-looking women in the crowd any more?
They should have one camera dedicated to this alone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 01, 2013, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 01:32:04 PM
How come they don't pick out good-looking women in the crowd any more?
They should have one camera dedicated to this alone.

Sure they'd [good-looking women] only be at the Dublin match Jinx, there mightn't be much to see at a Monaghan or Meath match..  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on July 01, 2013, 01:59:11 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 11:58:59 AM
McStay was good last night I thought.
Himself and Whelo would make a good analysis team.
Is there anyway of getting rid of Morrissey and Carney as commentators?
I hope Darragh Maloney comes back into the mix now the confederations cup is over.

Carney is bloody awful. I agree with that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 01:59:34 PM
Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
See where Carney was saying the goalie touched the ball on the ground, and that's why Dublin got a free in, even though Morgan Flaherty (I think) was actually getting booked for bringing McMenamon down just as he shot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2013, 02:44:47 PM
He's a complete flute. The ha-ha-ing between himself and Morrissey when Hawkeye was invoked was pure Ireland's Own.

And Canning! Jesus Christ! Does he have to emphasise every time he mentions Brian Meade that it's Meade the player, not Meath the team, as if it was the same word? I know he's from Kathleen Lynch land, where dere's no differ between dem, like. But he does actually pronounce his "th's", so what's he on about?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 02:46:59 PM
I think Ger has a new catchword too. Watch for it. It used to be 'a huuuugee one in' (even if it was a 10 yard miskick). Now he seems to have found spirtual enlightenment as every pass or shot is now 'Beautifully in there'.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2013, 02:53:07 PM
I had a dream last night where I was on the sideline watching Marty interview Cake after the AI club final. The fecker was too high and mighty to even look at me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
The best commentary team by far is Maloney and McStay.
McStay mightn't be everyones cup of tea ('hot zone' etc.) but at least he knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 01, 2013, 03:35:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
The best commentary team by far is Maloney and McStay.
McStay mightn't be everyones cup of tea ('hot zone' etc.) but at least he knows what he's talking about.

Yeah, used to (really) hate McStay as well, but he's grown on me. Does his homework, Looks at the game and gives a decent analysis. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 01, 2013, 03:41:56 PM
first sunday game of the season this morning for me. Enjoyed it very much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 01, 2013, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 01:59:34 PM
Very much so.
I cant really say for sure
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 01, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 01, 2013, 03:41:56 PM
first sunday game of the season this morning for me. Enjoyed it very much

so Ger.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 01, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 02:46:59 PM
I think Ger has a new catchword too. Watch for it. It used to be 'a huuuugee one in' (even if it was a 10 yard miskick). Now he seems to have found spirtual enlightenment as every pass or shot is now 'Beautifully in there'.

Maybe I misunderestimated Canning. The innuendo leaps of the page when it is written like dat!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 03, 2013, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 01, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 01, 2013, 03:41:56 PM
first sunday game of the season this morning for me. Enjoyed it very much

so Ger.
So Brian

http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/734/459670/
58 seconds in, Anthony  Daly calls Ger Canning "Brian"

But Brian is ultra professional and the interview proceeds without comment 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 03, 2013, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 01, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 01, 2013, 02:46:59 PM
I think Ger has a new catchword too. Watch for it. It used to be 'a huuuugee one in' (even if it was a 10 yard miskick). Now he seems to have found spirtual enlightenment as every pass or shot is now 'Beautifully in there'.

Maybe I misunderestimated Canning. The innuendo leaps of the page when it is written like dat!

(http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/small/1304/phallic-awards-score-katy-perry-demotivational-posters-1367027452.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 03, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
The best commentary team by far is Maloney and McStay.
McStay mightn't be everyones cup of tea ('hot zone' etc.) but at least he knows what he's talking about.

Darragh Maloney is the best GAA commentator on the TV by a long way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 03:33:52 PM
Except when Dublin are playing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 04:20:20 PM
This is the point where someone mentions how good the TG4 lads are, even though they could be just repeating the 1916 proclamation ad nauseum for 70 minutes and almost no one would be any the wiser.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
First Syfín it's "Ad nauseum"
Secondly something like 1.5 million people in the 26 Cos say they can understand Irish.
If you can't it's a poor reflection on you after 8 years in Primary School and I presume you have now completed 1st year in secondary.
Anyway as it's TV you can see what's happening so the few words they use should grow on you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
First Syfín it's "Ad nauseum"
Secondly something like 1.5 million people in the 26 Cos say they can understand Irish.
If you can't it's a poor reflection on you after 8 years in Primary School and I presume you have now completed 1st year in secondary.
Anyway as it's TV you can see what's happening so the few words they use should grow on you.

I'm blaming auto-correct.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lynchbhoy on July 03, 2013, 04:34:43 PM
rte need to get ryle nugent commentating on the football and hurling !!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 04:47:34 PM
Ad nauseam. But that was a stupid comment about TG4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on July 03, 2013, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 03, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
The best commentary team by far is Maloney and McStay.
McStay mightn't be everyones cup of tea ('hot zone' etc.) but at least he knows what he's talking about.

Darragh Maloney is the best GAA commentator on the TV by a long way.
+1...oh and  our Mark is a close second! Seriously though Canning, Morrissey et al are crap. They can't even call what's in front of them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 04:47:34 PM
Ad nauseam. But that was a stupid comment about TG4.

Horseen, just pre-empting the love-in for a station whose coverage is on RTE's level of quality but dressed in a frilly Seán Bán-shaped dress. Een.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 03, 2013, 05:54:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g59SRt2bzkc&sns=em
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 03, 2013, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 03, 2013, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 03, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
The best commentary team by far is Maloney and McStay.
McStay mightn't be everyones cup of tea ('hot zone' etc.) but at least he knows what he's talking about.

Darragh Maloney is the best GAA commentator on the TV by a long way.
+1...oh and  our Mark is a close second! Seriously though Canning, Morrissey et al are crap. They can't even call what's in front of them.

Yes they can.

Ooooooh, its another huge one.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ard-Rí on July 03, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
I liked Ger Canning's commentary on our match versus Kildare last year.

Ger - "And he is off. Daryl Flynn's second yellow ... equals a red."

Co-commentator - "That is most correct."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: babarino on July 03, 2013, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 01, 2013, 12:24:00 PM
Watched the Cavan v Monaghan match the other night and the camera man must have been a lad on work experience. More interested in showing shots of the managers, Jim McGuinness and inappropriate replays when the action was still going on. Missed one point for Monaghan completely due to a replay being shown.

Watched the Saturday Game on RTE Player. Was it Carney who was talking like it was Cavan playing Cavan at one stage? Couldn't seem to distinguish between us two! Man, the McMahons and O'Reilly's spilled blood over our differences.

Eoin Lennon was making some great catches and they couldn't name him until near the end of the game. Everyone was Hughes!

They had some good moments all the same - spotted the goal / penalty incident early and the goalkeeper steps and did manage to capture the nature of the game and were upbeat. Not many neutrals would have been.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 04:47:34 PM
Ad nauseam. But that was a stupid comment about TG4.

Horseen, just pre-empting the love-in for a station whose coverage is on RTE's level of quality but dressed in a frilly Seán Bán-shaped dress. Een.

As I saideen - stupideen commenteen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 04:47:34 PM
Ad nauseam. But that was a stupid comment about TG4.

Horseen, just pre-empting the love-in for a station whose coverage is on RTE's level of quality but dressed in a frilly Seán Bán-shaped dress. Een.

As I saideen - stupideen commenteen.

Ieen thinkeen someoneen is holdeen TG4een to a-een highereen standardeen thaneen it derserveens.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
How would you know if you don't understand a word they're saying? Stupid comment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
How would you know if you don't understand a word they're saying? Stupid comment.

Where did I say I didn't understand what was being said? Keep up(een).

The studio shows are all subtitled and despite some rave reviews rather than being geriatric bollixing about that the Sunday Game deals in it's just plain boring, and Sean Ban is starting to do his best Pat Spillane impression these days anyways. People are getting their faces pummelled in by RTE and because TG4 is only giving us a Chinese burn they feel like we should be celebrating their analysis.

Neither is up to much and both have a few good voices in a sea of nothing. The GAA nor the stations covering it have never know how to promote the sports properly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 03, 2013, 08:42:25 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
How would you know if you don't understand a word they're saying? Stupid comment.

Ná déan argóint le.......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
How would you know if you don't understand a word they're saying? Stupid comment.

Where did I say I didn't understand what was being said? Keep up(een).

The studio shows are all subtitled and despite some rave reviews rather than being geriatric bollixing about that the Sunday Game deals in it's just plain boring, and Sean Ban is starting to do his best Pat Spillane impression these days anyways. People are getting their faces pummelled in by RTE and because TG4 is only giving us a Chinese burn they feel like they should be celebrating their analysis.

Neither is up to much and both have a few good voices in a sea of nothing. The GAA nor the stations covering it have never know how to promote the sports properly.

Well which is it? Do you or don't you understand Irish? If you don't, you're not qualified to comment on the quality of the 70 minutes of game time coverage that was the subject of your original stupid comment. If you do, your comment that "almost no one" understands the language is even stupider than I thought.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 09:02:37 PM
Syfín surpassin himself with amadánacht.
A Shyfín, an dtuigeann tú an seanfhocal "Is binn béal ina thost"?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 03, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
How would you know if you don't understand a word they're saying? Stupid comment.

Where did I say I didn't understand what was being said? Keep up(een).

The studio shows are all subtitled and despite some rave reviews rather than being geriatric bollixing about that the Sunday Game deals in it's just plain boring, and Sean Ban is starting to do his best Pat Spillane impression these days anyways. People are getting their faces pummelled in by RTE and because TG4 is only giving us a Chinese burn they feel like they should be celebrating their analysis.

Neither is up to much and both have a few good voices in a sea of nothing. The GAA nor the stations covering it have never know how to promote the sports properly.

Well which is it? Do you or don't you understand Irish? If you don't, you're not qualified to comment on the quality of the 70 minutes of game time coverage that was the subject of your original stupid comment. If you do, your comment that "almost no one" understands the language is even stupider than I thought.

It's called an off-hand commenteen, Hardy. I only got serious in my last post.

I'm happy to have stopped this particular record from skipping between hand-wringing about TSG and undue praise of TG4 8)

Job doneen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 09:41:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 03, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Job doneen.

Jobeen done is the correct version.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Yes Rossfan, -een is only added to nouns, not verbs or anything else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on July 04, 2013, 10:35:57 AM
is that Ulster scots your speaking . cant understand a word
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 04, 2013, 11:47:44 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 03, 2013, 09:02:37 PM
Syfín surpassin himself with amadánacht.
A Shyfín, an dtuigeann tú an seanfhocal "Is binn béal ina thost"?

Agus an modh nua 


is binn riomhaire ina screensaver mode
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 04, 2013, 12:33:36 PM
Is binn Hill 16 ina thost.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
Used to love watching the Sunday Game... But good god, Des Cahill?? Surely RTE could find someone better, maybe they don't want to though....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
Used to love watching the Sunday Game... But good god, Des Cahill?? Surely RTE could find someone better, maybe they don't want to though....

Pat's available.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 07, 2013, 10:34:22 PM
(http://media.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/story_25926_25926-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 07, 2013, 10:36:02 PM
Quote from: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
Used to love watching the Sunday Game... But good god, Des Cahill?? Surely RTE could find someone better, maybe they don't want to though....

You should know by now RTE is a old boys club.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 10:58:59 PM
Old boys?? Dunno bout that, seems more like D4 club.
If its not the oval ball then to hell with it seems more like the attitude RTE have..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 07, 2013, 11:00:49 PM
Cahill should stick to what he is good at and thats reading sports news on the radio for 5 or 10 minutes a day but definitely not presenting the Sunday Game.

Has Brolly taken a sabbatical or been put on gardening leave, hasn't made an appearance in a long time now neither day or night time?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 11:05:10 PM
Fermoy Early is a welcome addition this year... Knows his stuff and easy to listen to
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 07, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
That was an excellent point by McStay about the hopping ball into the FF line.
It used really wind me up when people would be talking about that IR muck saying the Irish lads couldn't pass the ball properly.
The perfect ball into the FF line in Gaelic football will get a lad killed in IR, as the perfect ball hops before it gets to the forward.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2013, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 11:05:10 PM
Fermoy Early is a welcome addition this year... Knows his stuff and easy to listen to

Conor Counihan can only hope.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 07, 2013, 11:21:05 PM
Fermoy ???? Damn predictive txt!! Haha.. Of course I know it's the great Dermot Early!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 07, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
That was an excellent point by McStay about the hopping ball into the FF line.
It used really wind me up when people would be talking about that IR muck saying the Irish lads couldn't pass the ball properly.
The perfect ball into the FF line in Gaelic football will get a lad killed in IR, as the perfect ball hops before it gets to the forward.

True that it's the perfect pass but not a prayer of having that kind of space against a packed defence. Against the likes of Donegal, you'll need to play the ball straight into the chest, they won't allow teams to hop balls in in front of their forwards
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 09, 2013, 12:46:38 PM
Yes I think accurate kick passing has become harder with the swarm defences. It's part of the reason so many teams choose the short ball game now to keep possession as often a pass in front of a forward will get swept up quite easily nowadays.

Interestingly, this topic made me have a look at the top scorers this season as I wondered would the big star names be suffering with the more tactically aware defences in operation.
http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/championship-top-scorers/ (http://www.gaa.ie/fixtures-and-results/championship-top-scorers/)

Goulding the only one there you would expect to see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2013, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 07, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
That was an excellent point by McStay about the hopping ball into the FF line.
It used really wind me up when people would be talking about that IR muck saying the Irish lads couldn't pass the ball properly.
The perfect ball into the FF line in Gaelic football will get a lad killed in IR, as the perfect ball hops before it gets to the forward.

True that it's the perfect pass but not a prayer of having that kind of space against a packed defence. Against the likes of Donegal, you'll need to play the ball straight into the chest, they won't allow teams to hop balls in in front of their forwards

I disagree.
I think a Donegal type defence would much rather the ball played straight into the fowards chest.
Much easier to get the hand in or unbalance the forward, plus he has to move out to the ball as opposed to the hopping ball which he can take to the side.
Besides, if you can play it into his chest you can put it hopping in front of him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 09, 2013, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2013, 01:56:05 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 08, 2013, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 07, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
That was an excellent point by McStay about the hopping ball into the FF line.
It used really wind me up when people would be talking about that IR muck saying the Irish lads couldn't pass the ball properly.
The perfect ball into the FF line in Gaelic football will get a lad killed in IR, as the perfect ball hops before it gets to the forward.

True that it's the perfect pass but not a prayer of having that kind of space against a packed defence. Against the likes of Donegal, you'll need to play the ball straight into the chest, they won't allow teams to hop balls in in front of their forwards

I disagree.
I think a Donegal type defence would much rather the ball played straight into the fowards chest.
Much easier to get the hand in or unbalance the forward, plus he has to move out to the ball as opposed to the hopping ball which he can take to the side.
Besides, if you can play it into his chest you can put it hopping in front of him.
Have the Donegal players not been programmed with GPS ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
The difference between the hurling analyst and football boys is like night and day . Spillane,O' Rourke and Brolly should be made watch the Hurling lads and see what true analysis is like without bitching , or insulting fellow gaa men.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
The difference between the hurling analyst and football boys is like night and day . Spillane,O' Rourke and Brolly should be made watch the Hurling lads and see what true analysis is like without bitching , or insulting fellow gaa men.

You forgot about D. Brady :-*
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 14, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
The difference between the hurling analyst and football boys is like night and day . Spillane,O' Rourke and Brolly should be made watch the Hurling lads and see what true analysis is like without bitching , or insulting fellow gaa men.

You forgot about D. Brady :-*

There was no sign of him today syferus had to listen to that tool Hayes instead  ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 14, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
The difference between the hurling analyst and football boys is like night and day . Spillane,O' Rourke and Brolly should be made watch the Hurling lads and see what true analysis is like without bitching , or insulting fellow gaa men.

You forgot about D. Brady :-*

There was no sign of him today syferus had to listen to that tool Hayes instead  ;) ;D

I forgot how big Hayes is. Made young Darragh look like a child out with his father.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 14, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 14, 2013, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 14, 2013, 06:11:38 PM
The difference between the hurling analyst and football boys is like night and day . Spillane,O' Rourke and Brolly should be made watch the Hurling lads and see what true analysis is like without bitching , or insulting fellow gaa men.

You forgot about D. Brady :-*

There was no sign of him today syferus had to listen to that tool Hayes instead  ;) ;D

I forgot how big Hayes is. Makes young Darragh look like a child out with his father.

Was thinking the same thing myself . How tall would Darragh  be ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 14, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
I think Darragh is 6'2".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 14, 2013, 07:35:28 PM
That was the first time in ages that I sat and watched a hurling match with full preview, half time analysis and apres match discussion. It was a real breath of fresh air. No bitching, no negativity and no running players/managers into the ground. Now it wasn't the best match I have ever seen but all the pundits provided a worthwile insight which was both informative and entertaining. As mentioned already the football guys could learn a lot from Loughnane, Sheedy etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 14, 2013, 08:12:25 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
I think Darragh is 6'2".

He is in his hole 6/2........6ft.............................men always add on inches
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 14, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
That jacket of Donal Óg's is mad.

Donal Óg giving the county board a few digs.



Take that Frank !!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on July 14, 2013, 11:01:20 PM
Fair play to Donal Og for answering Joe brollys smart ass comment about his appearnace. Joe who????.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
Does anyone else feel that Des Cahill is getting sexier every week?

He gives a wee cheeky smile at the end now. Suggestive sorta.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on July 14, 2013, 11:42:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 14, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
Does anyone else feel that Des Cahill is getting sexier every week?

He gives a wee cheeky smile at the end now. Suggestive sorta.

Yes, and the barnet a wee bit more trendy at the front !!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 14, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
That lad from Wexford trying to find someone to hold his glasses was one if funniest gaa moments ever, then he just throws them away and runs in swinging. Priceless!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 14, 2013, 11:42:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 14, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
Does anyone else feel that Des Cahill is getting sexier every week?

He gives a wee cheeky smile at the end now. Suggestive sorta.

Yes, and the barnet a wee bit more trendy at the front !!

Yes, noticed that too. Pulling in the housewives with that effort.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BluestackBoy on July 15, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 15, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 14, 2013, 11:42:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 14, 2013, 11:32:38 PM
Does anyone else feel that Des Cahill is getting sexier every week?

He gives a wee cheeky smile at the end now. Suggestive sorta.

Yes, and the barnet a wee bit more trendy at the front !!

Yes, noticed that too. Pulling in the housewives with that effort.
Is it my imagination or is Des looking a little trimmer as well?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2013, 12:20:33 AM
Only in Tyrone, the home of Mulligan's Mullet, could Cahill's hair be described as "trendy".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 15, 2013, 12:22:09 AM
It was a nice touch to include the blonde in the denim hot pants handing out the water during the camogie. Great bit of editing!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
Both 'brawls' were a whole pile of nothing.
To think people used words like 'shameful' to describe scenes you'd normally see at 2am on the dancefloor at most weddings.  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on July 15, 2013, 01:24:55 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 15, 2013, 12:20:33 AM
Only in Tyrone, the home of Mulligan's Mullet, could Cahill's hair be described as "trendy".

I noticed Grimley's barnet too. Top of it was all over the shop!

He looked like he just had sex!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 15, 2013, 01:25:36 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
Both 'brawls' were a whole pile of nothing.
To think people used words like 'shameful' to describe scenes you'd normally see at 2am on the dancefloor at most weddings.  ::)

Was out for my usual few sunday evening beers in NY , (still cannot log on from my blackberry), just got home could not let that gem go without an acknowledgement of a classic.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 15, 2013, 01:45:53 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 15, 2013, 12:22:09 AM
It was a nice touch to include the blonde in the denim hot pants handing out the water during the camogie. Great bit of editing!
Saw that. Whole new perspective on camogie. What happened to the thick-ankled girls with tweed skirts?

Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
That lad from Wexford trying to find someone to hold his glasses was one if funniest gaa moments ever, then he just throws them away and runs in swinging. Priceless!
I was gone to the pub by then. Ya hafta tell us about that.

Quote from: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 12:24:19 AM
Both 'brawls' were a whole pile of nothing.
To think people used words like 'shameful' to describe scenes you'd normally see at 2am on the dancefloor at most weddings.  ::)
What? The pushin and shovin in Meath-Dublin?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPKm6SzCcAEay4H.jpg)

An iconic GAA moment..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 15, 2013, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPKm6SzCcAEay4H.jpg)

An iconic GAA moment..

The GAA needs more of this sort of thing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 15, 2013, 09:07:32 AM
I wonder what caused her wrist injury? Pulled too hard on a few balls no doubt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
Quote from: Hardy on July 15, 2013, 01:45:53 AM
What? The pushin and shovin in Meath-Dublin?

No, Longford/Wexford and Cavan/Fermanagh.
The usual 'houl me back biys!' nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 09:08:36 AM
Why are the Tyrone posters so frisky all of a sudden?
It's creeping me out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 15, 2013, 09:12:52 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 09:08:36 AM
Why are the Tyrone posters so frisky all of a sudden?
It's creeping me out.

It's the end of the twelth weekend, we've just came out of hibernation and are keen to get some action.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on July 15, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPKm6SzCcAEay4H.jpg)

An iconic GAA moment..

As Sidney James would have said "FWWWOOORRRRRRRRR"!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on July 15, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 15, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPKm6SzCcAEay4H.jpg)

An iconic GAA moment..

As Sidney James would have said "FWWWOOORRRRRRRRR"!
wonder what happened her wrist  8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 12:12:20 PM
Wrists? Where?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 15, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
A pack of dirty hallions the lot of ye............... I heard Cavan are down a water carrier due to suspension for the derry game; they could do worse than trying to get her ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: This Years Model on July 15, 2013, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 14, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
That lad from Wexford trying to find someone to hold his glasses was one if funniest gaa moments ever, then he just throws them away and runs in swinging. Priceless!
Pardon me for lowering the tone by changing the subject back to that of an earlier post ...
But on a point of information, that bespectacled clown highlighted during the melee in Longford - despite the colour of his bib - was actually a Longford official ...

Two iconic GAA moments in the one episode of TSG ... they might as well just retire the series now, the only way is down ....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 15, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 15, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPKm6SzCcAEay4H.jpg)

An iconic GAA moment..

As Sidney James would have said "FWWWOOORRRRRRRRR"!
wonder what happened her wrist  8)

I'm obviously not watching enough Camoige.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on July 15, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on July 15, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 15, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 15, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2013, 07:00:53 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPKm6SzCcAEay4H.jpg)

An iconic GAA moment..

As Sidney James would have said "FWWWOOORRRRRRRRR"!
wonder what happened her wrist  8)

I'm obviously not watching enough Camoige.

With those flowing blonde locks and perma tan, you Mayo lads probably thought it was Ciaran McDonald!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 15, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
Quote from: Hardy on July 15, 2013, 01:45:53 AM
What? The pushin and shovin in Meath-Dublin?

No, Longford/Wexford and Cavan/Fermanagh.
The usual 'houl me back biys!' nonsense.

That should have read, 'houl me glasses biys!'
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 15, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
I think that girl has a couple of All Irelands. I saw on twitter where the Wexford account named her. She's still playing camogie and was obviously just water carrier because of her injury.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on July 15, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
Correct - Katrina Parrock is the uisce carrier in question
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 15, 2013, 01:35:55 PM
AZoffaly, you missed the key question, is she married? lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 15, 2013, 01:36:34 PM
She's only 22, and an inter county camogie player. I doubt she has the time to be married yet :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: North Longford on July 15, 2013, 05:54:42 PM
QuoteBut on a point of information, that bespectacled clown highlighted during the melee in Longford - despite the colour of his bib - was actually a Longford official ...
......actually the strength and conditioning coach. . Has  become quite famous in the past few weeks. ..... made a very funny appearance on twitter after the Limerick game..... http://twitter.com/unofficialgaa/status/351067400906616832/photo/1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on July 15, 2013, 10:20:48 PM
Where's her Maor Uisce bib??!!  if there's a fine (no pun intended!!) sure we can have a whip around!  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 15, 2013, 11:46:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN898OvCMAEzo_0.jpg)

That's worth a caption comp!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 15, 2013, 11:51:40 PM
British comedian Alan Carr (below) outed as a fanatical Longfordian.

(http://i.guim.co.uk/n/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2007/10/19/AlanCarrRexFeatures4.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 16, 2013, 12:08:09 AM
LOL Omagh Gael
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 16, 2013, 12:19:06 AM
Has Glen Ryan just shoved that flag into the linesman's hole??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HiMucker on July 16, 2013, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 15, 2013, 11:46:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN898OvCMAEzo_0.jpg)

That's worth a caption comp!
Lines man flying the flag for arseholes everywhere
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 16, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
Looks like Ryan is digging a hole with an invisible spade and his mate behind him is waiting for him to fill his invisible wheelbarrow. ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 16, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 16, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 16, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Jaysis keep that link away from the DUP or the GAA in the 6 counties will never see another penny from Stormont!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seamus on July 17, 2013, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 15, 2013, 11:46:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN898OvCMAEzo_0.jpg)

That's worth a caption comp!

Glen stakes his claim


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on July 17, 2013, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 16, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Jaysis keep that link away from the DUP or the GAA in the 6 counties will never see another penny from Stormont!

You'd think Limerick men would know more than one verse thought, bloody hell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 17, 2013, 11:32:17 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on July 17, 2013, 08:31:06 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 16, 2013, 09:27:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX4orWs64b4&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Jaysis keep that link away from the DUP or the GAA in the 6 counties will never see another penny from Stormont!

You'd think Limerick men would know more than one verse thought, bloody hell.

I wonder if they sung this verse would the cameras kept on rolling.........

'May God be with those gallant men may heaven be their homes
For they did not fear the RUC or the B-Men on patrol
Near Brookebourough town these two men died on a cabin on their own
There was one from county Monaghan and one from Garryowen.'
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 21, 2013, 09:52:41 PM
Any chance Joe you let the other lads talk for a change!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 21, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
Joe`s Donegal bandwagon has moved down the road a little to mayo, god help them!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 22, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 21, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
Joe`s Donegal bandwagon has moved down the road a little to mayo, god help them!!

Well he was right last year in the end wasn't he?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 28, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
That's some script Des had at the start! Waving it about like he was swatting flys
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sam03/05 on July 28, 2013, 09:47:34 PM
Why can't I watch online or on my ipad.. When I live in the north.. Anyone help?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 28, 2013, 09:58:15 PM
Why do RTE spend 4 hours showing live matches then proceed to show the highlights the first chance they get??? Surely they would be better showing the 4 football matches from yesterday then the hurling after, or is that common sense?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2013, 10:09:08 PM
Quote from: Beantown on July 28, 2013, 09:58:15 PM
Why do RTE spend 4 hours showing live matches then proceed to show the highlights the first chance they get??? Surely they would be better showing the 4 football matches from yesterday then the hurling after, or is that common sense?

100%. But the work that has to go into editing non covered games means they take the easy route!

Like Donal Ogs Red Trousers. RED for Rebels!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kid Twist on July 28, 2013, 10:13:41 PM
Maybe that's why they call it the Sunday Game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 28, 2013, 10:21:57 PM
The hurlıng is the QFs, the football mere qualifiers, a collection of losers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2013, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2013, 10:21:57 PM
The hurlıng is the QFs, the football mere qualifiers, a collection of losers.

Of course the Hurlers won all their games up to this?  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
I think Tyrone should offer us a replay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on July 28, 2013, 10:44:04 PM
Some great Rugby tackles by Sean Cavanagh..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 28, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
I think Tyrone should offer us a replay.

Des and his loaded questions think so anyway. He's a tosser.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 28, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
Plenty of Tyrone bashing as usual. The panel did not even mention the fact that the penalty was outside the box ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2013, 10:47:43 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 28, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
I think Tyrone should offer us a replay.

Des and his loaded questions think so anyway. He's a t**ser.

I would fully agree. All loaded questions for a bit of sensationalism.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 28, 2013, 10:55:29 PM
They are just commenting on what ever body else can see, there is a way of stopping a player with an actual tackle that county plaers should be capable with, not a drag down, jersey pulling exercise. Oops i see Donegal most popular player been felled by an invisible swing, nothing new there Rory!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 28, 2013, 11:01:23 PM
Shut up Mcguinness, eff of to Celtic ,!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 28, 2013, 11:03:12 PM
Jimmy is dead right, I hope he has words with the donegal backs, I wouldn't want them targetting the mayo forwards who've just come back from injury  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
'Spinal cord injuries'.
What a drama queen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 28, 2013, 11:09:26 PM
Some great point scoring by Donegal and Laois it looked like a great game from those highlights however i know it wasn't.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 28, 2013, 11:12:24 PM
It will be nice to see o Shea and Moran et al waltzing up the field next week without being 'targeted', a very open and flowing game in prospect . Can't wait, Spillane and Brolly will be drooling over it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
I expect Horan will send his players out to specifically target the spinal cords of Donegals key men.
He's probably knee deep in anatomy textbooks as we speak.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 28, 2013, 11:26:43 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 11:21:13 PM
I expect Horan will send his players out to specifically target the spinal cords of Donegals key men.
He's probably knee deep in anatomy textbooks as we speak.


;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 28, 2013, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on July 28, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
Plenty of Tyrone bashing as usual. The panel did not even mention the fact that the penalty was outside the box ::)
Don't do anything wrong and you won't get bashed. Simples. Horrible stuff from Tyrone yesterday. No need for that shite. I hope a football team wins the All Ireland.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 28, 2013, 11:45:21 PM
some of those tyrone lads could have made the lions tour
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2013, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 28, 2013, 11:45:21 PM
some of those tyrone lads could have made the lions tour

They have the under garments anyway!  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 28, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
I nearly pissed myself laughing at Whelo talking about Tyrone's cynicism and fouling.


Rich.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 28, 2013, 11:56:39 PM
At least 50% of the frees we conceded were for old fashioned manliness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 28, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
I nearly pissed myself laughing at Whelo talking about Tyrone's cynicism and fouling.


Rich.

I'm going to have to pull you up on this.
There's a difference between good, old fashioned dirt and cynical fouling.
The former involves digs in the jaw, the latter involves trying to pull the shorts off the man in possession.
I reckon we need more dirt and less cynicism to be honest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 29, 2013, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2013, 11:59:41 PM
I was disappointed with Meath. They were fairly soft and bordering on gay.

You're not allowed to describe Meath in those terms.


You'll get the road off here if you're not careful for comments like that HS.

They're either gay or they're not. Bordering on gay doesn't count.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 29, 2013, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 28, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
I nearly pissed myself laughing at Whelo talking about Tyrone's cynicism and fouling.


Rich.

I'm going to have to pull you up on this.
There's a difference between good, old fashioned dirt and cynical fouling.
The former involves digs in the jaw, the latter involves trying to pull the shorts off the man in possession.
I reckon we need more dirt and less cynicism to be honest.


I'd go along with that.


We'll agree on that much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 29, 2013, 12:03:45 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 28, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
I nearly pissed myself laughing at Whelo talking about Tyrone's cynicism and fouling.


Rich.

I'm going to have to pull you up on this.
There's a difference between good, old fashioned dirt and cynical fouling.
The former involves digs in the jaw, the latter involves trying to pull the shorts off the man in possession.
I reckon we need more dirt and less cynicism to be honest.
I'd rather have torn shorts than a broken jaw.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:04:16 AM
I bet you would alright.  8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 29, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:04:16 AM
I bet you would alright.  8)

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:17:10 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 29, 2013, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2013, 11:59:41 PM
I was disappointed with Meath. They were fairly soft and bordering on gay.

You're not allowed to describe Meath in those terms.


You'll get the road off here if you're not careful for comments like that HS.

They're either gay or they're not. Bordering on gay doesn't count.

We are a team in transition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 29, 2013, 12:29:41 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:17:10 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 29, 2013, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2013, 11:59:41 PM
I was disappointed with Meath. They were fairly soft and bordering on gay.

You're not allowed to describe Meath in those terms.


You'll get the road off here if you're not careful for comments like that HS.

They're either gay or they're not. Bordering on gay doesn't count.

We are a team in transition.


Ok then - what do youse want to be known as ?

Half and half ?

Half rice half chip ? Curry sauce or gravy ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on July 29, 2013, 12:30:26 AM
Does the fact that Henry Shefflin got sent of for 2 mainly minor fouls while teams can systematically close out a game with continuous fouls and gamesmanship not point to a major flaw in our games?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 29, 2013, 12:36:20 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on July 29, 2013, 12:30:26 AM
Does the fact that Henry Shefflin got sent of for 2 mainly minor fouls while teams can systematically close out a game with continuous fouls and gamesmanship not point to a major flaw in our games?

Did Fennelly and the man he was tangling with before the penalty get yellow carded or does it have to be on the ball to get a yellow ?


Sunday game said tonight that Sean Cavanagh didn't get yellows for his late indiscretions ? I thought he picked up a yellow for one of them ?


Time for the FRC to review their decision.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:38:08 AM
That Shefflin was sent off at all is the classic example of the exception proving the rule.
Hurlers in general get away with absolute murder.
The refs are encouraged to swallow their whistle and let the game flow.
The ball was thrown in for the 2nd half while two lads were flaking each other right in front of the ref.
It's semi-organised chaos.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on July 29, 2013, 12:42:29 AM
Probably did not explain my point too well there Hardstation. IMO Shefflin made an honest attempt to win the ball. As the rules stand he deserved to get sent off. No argument. However, if we take Tyrone ( only because they are the ones highlighted this week) they managed to play the last 10 minutes with constant fouling, slowing of the play, knocking the ball away and generally arsing about without suffering any real penalty against the team. (SON sending off was too late to effect the game). Surely that cannot be right?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
True.
They won because of diving.  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadhlancian on July 29, 2013, 02:36:37 AM
Meath were consistently STOPPING Tyrone's runners on the break with 3rd man tackles. Tyrone were also guilty, and all teams are at it these days. It will always be highlighted when a team is hanging on at the end of a game. It was going on the whole f**king match!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 29, 2013, 09:40:52 AM
This is the issue and why I support the black card, even though I don't think it is the correct deterrent. Fouling needs to be seriously punished or there is no reason not to foul to gain an advantage. IMO any foul where there has clearly been no attempt to tackle the ball deserves a red card and a one match ban. Shefflin's high tackle wouldn't fall into this category both Cavanagh would certainly have been sent off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 09:49:04 AM
I agree that the black cards won't eliminate the problem but they are a step in the right direction.
It will also encourage forwards to take their men on.
If a common sense approach is taken and our Northern cousins don't go out of their way to sabotage the whole thing, I think it'll work well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on July 29, 2013, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 29, 2013, 12:38:08 AM
That Shefflin was sent off at all is the classic example of the exception proving the rule.
Hurlers in general get away with absolute murder.
The refs are encouraged to swallow their whistle and let the game flow.
The ball was thrown in for the 2nd half while two lads were flaking each other right in front of the ref.
It's semi-organised chaos.

Hurling referees have tightened up a good bit this year, not sure what Barry Kelly was thinking when the started the second half with two lads wrestling the heads off each other and chose to play on, and then come back to it after awarding Kilkenny the penalty, yet not card O'Neill for the stroke that he awarded the penalty for. he lost the plot a bit there alright.
Shefflin was well off the pace of the game and his slap on the Cork lad for the first yellow was lazy and no attempt at playing the ball, the other hurl/arm around the neck has been picking up yellows all year, so just because its Henry Shefflin and Kilkenny shouldn't matter.

What did O'Neill do in the first half that merited a card, hardstation? He was certainly putting in some power when under a dropping ball, but he's entitled to so long as he's going for the ball.

In a good sense its harder for hurling referees to blow for fouls as most hurlers on the receiving end plough on giving the referee a decision to make on stopping the play, award the foul, but then there's no advantage as momentum may be lost, whereas in football it seems going down is the first option, get the free, pop it up to some lad to take the free and on you go, if its inside 40 yards going down is the only option for some footballers.
Fouls in football are more frequent but the taking of them doesn't stop the flow of the game as much as in hurling unless they bring the feckin keeper 100 yards up the park.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: EC Unique on July 29, 2013, 10:00:25 AM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 28, 2013, 11:38:36 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on July 28, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
Plenty of Tyrone bashing as usual. The panel did not even mention the fact that the penalty was outside the box ::)
Don't do anything wrong and you won't get bashed. Simples. Horrible stuff from Tyrone yesterday. No need for that shite. I hope a football team wins the All Ireland.

I take the point about the fouling but a penalty is a major incident in a match. The penalty should not have been given and not a mention. Also it was struck extremely well but also not a mention. The panel are a bit predictable these days when it comes to Northern teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2013, 09:49:44 PM
They not even going to talk about the worst incident of the weekend, the stamping incident in the Donegal game, now this is where you need Joe lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Probably deserves about 3 months
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 04, 2013, 10:21:24 PM
TSG went all Big Ron there for a minute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 04, 2013, 10:21:58 PM
Soon be time for the Tyrone bashing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 04, 2013, 10:51:45 PM
What a joke showing that farce again from Brolly and not even one second reviewing McGee's stamp. Disgrace.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 04, 2013, 10:53:25 PM
Ciaran Whelan is some man to be asking about dirty tackles alright....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2013, 11:04:05 PM
Cahill led eamon o'hara into the walsh thing and he tried the same with cusack and jimmy barry murphy.

He loves the sensationalist bollocks and trying to get the ratings up no matter what's said about who. As bad as brolly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on August 04, 2013, 11:07:45 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 04, 2013, 10:51:45 PM
What a joke showing that farce again from Brolly and not even one second reviewing McGee's stamp. Disgrace.


Totally agree!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 04, 2013, 11:10:08 PM
Jaysis, to zoom in on two stand your ground tackles after the ball has left is fair petty-that happens dozens of times in every match.  This was far from a dirty game.  To only show these clips from the Tyrone v Monaghan Game is a disgrace-some deadly cynical stuff in the Dublin Cork game but God forbid anything negative be portrayed of the Dubs... 

All of this rubbish being spouted this past while detracts from the fat that most of our refs, umpires and linesmen simply aren't good enough-you can bring in as many different cards as you like-they will just make matters worse, as the refs aren't able at the minute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 04, 2013, 11:13:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 04, 2013, 10:53:25 PM
Ciaran Whelan is some man to be asking about dirty tackles alright....

I hate to say it, but LL has a point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 04, 2013, 11:20:42 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 04, 2013, 11:10:08 PM
Jaysis, to zoom in on two stand your ground tackles after the ball has left is fair petty-that happens dozens of times in every match.  This was far from a dirty game.  To only show these clips from the Tyrone v Monaghan Game is a disgrace-some deadly cynical stuff in the Dublin Cork game but God forbid anything negative be portrayed of the Dubs... 

All of this rubbish being spouted this past while detracts from the fat that most of our refs, umpires and linesmen simply aren't good enough-you can bring in as many different cards as you like-they will just make matters worse, as the refs aren't able at the minute.

Hear hear.

This happened in all other games. In the Cavan game one of their players swung his hand back hitting his Darren O'Sullivan after being cynically fouled and nothing. Cork, Kerry, Cavan, Dublin, Mayo and Donegal all took out
opponents. A Donegal player, Eamon McGee, PURPOSEFULLY stood on anothers players neck while he was completely vulnerable on the ground and literally nothing was said about it post game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 05, 2013, 01:14:10 AM
There's always somebody who wants to focus on the worst bit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on September 01, 2013, 10:19:30 PM
Thought Darragh Maloney and McStay were excellent today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on September 01, 2013, 10:22:45 PM
Dunno how connolly got motm there.
Hard to believe that Brogan wasnt even mentioned as a possible candidate.

My coice would be MDMcC. Class game, and ye can see that he empties the tank every game. Just look how he got a hand to the ball for mcmeanmims goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 01, 2013, 10:34:01 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on September 01, 2013, 10:19:30 PM
Thought Darragh Maloney and McStay were excellent today.

Darragh Maloney Keeps things simple. No agendas.
McStay has his homework done. So you'll get proper stats.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: timmyot501 on September 01, 2013, 10:37:42 PM
Tony McEntee was a good addition to the panel tonight. Early is good too.  Wee Marty doesn't really finish a point before roaming off to something else.  MD McAuley should have been man of match. 

On McStay - A stat came up  re own kick outs won.  Something like 10/13 for Kerry and 11/14 for Dublin (prob wrong).  McStay then said he would love to see the reverse of those stats - so how many each team had lost.  Surely he could have worked this out from the info given.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on September 01, 2013, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: timmyot501 on September 01, 2013, 10:37:42 PM
Tony McEntee was a good addition to the panel tonight. Early is good too.  Wee Marty doesn't really finish a point before roaming off to something else.  MD McAuley should have been man of match. 

On McStay - A stat came up  re own kick outs won.  Something like 10/13 for Kerry and 11/14 for Dublin (prob wrong).  McStay then said he would love to see the reverse of those stats - so how many each team had lost.  Surely he could have worked this out from the info given.

Yes I mind that lol wondering that myself!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2013, 10:42:08 PM
Mckenna the tyrone minor is still a minor according to martin mchugh.

That's a good job Martin or roscommon might not have been too happy :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on September 01, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2013, 10:42:08 PM
Mckenna the tyrone minor is still a minor according to martin mchugh.

That's a good job Martin or roscommon might not have been too happy :D

Did he not say , still a Minor next year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 01, 2013, 10:54:17 PM
Good to watch the SG and hear decent football analysis about the games and none of the Brolly/Spillane irrelevant rants.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2013, 11:09:11 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2013, 10:42:08 PM
Mckenna the tyrone minor is still a minor according to martin mchugh.

That's a good job Martin or roscommon might not have been too happy :D

Did he not say , still a Minor next year.

Ai i think early corrected him on it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rodman on September 01, 2013, 11:14:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 01, 2013, 10:54:17 PM
Good to watch the SG and hear decent football analysis about the games and none of the Brolly/Spillane irrelevant rants.
+1.  Good analysis. McEntee very impressive. That's what we pay our TV licence for. Time to remove the 3 Stooges from the live games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sam03/05 on September 01, 2013, 11:36:04 PM
Thought the analysis this afternoon was once again a disgrace.
Tyrone minors were torn apart at half time, we were told by Spillane that the Tyrone template no longer works ( well that's another All Ireland final reached) so must be doing something right. Think that's five minor finals since 2000.
Secondly during the Senior game. Prior to throw in and at half time (Tyrone) were again mentioned for negative tactics, f**k me they weren't even playing in the game, and had no need to be mentioned.
Brolly then at the end goes on to wax lyrical about Dublin playing pure and non cynical football (the game was a joy no doubt) - however he made no mention of the most cynical incident in the game, when Johnny Cooper tripped Colm Cooper when going through for a score. It was as bad as the Cavanagh incident but you won't hear a word about it.

The anti Tyrone agenda is shocking, why are Tyrone mentioned during a Dublin v Kerry game?
Hope our minors show that the Template is still alive and well!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on September 01, 2013, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on September 01, 2013, 11:36:04 PM
Thought the analysis this afternoon was once again a disgrace.
Tyrone minors were torn apart at half time, we were told by Spillane that the Tyrone template no longer works ( well that's another All Ireland final reached) so must be doing something right. Think that's five minor finals since 2000.
Secondly during the Senior game. Prior to throw in and at half time (Tyrone) were again mentioned for negative tactics, f**k me they weren't even playing in the game, and had no need to be mentioned.
Brolly then at the end goes on to wax lyrical about Dublin playing pure and non cynical football (the game was a joy no doubt) - however he made no mention of the most cynical incident in the game, when Johnny Cooper tripped Colm Cooper when going through for a score. It was as bad as the Cavanagh incident but you won't hear a word about it.

The anti Tyrone agenda is shocking, why are Tyrone mentioned during a Dublin v Kerry game?
Hope our minors show that the Template is still alive and well!!

what you're seeing is a changing of the guard.


The senior all-ireland will be won by either of two teams who don't have a blanket defence.

Systems are changing and philosophies are changing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on September 01, 2013, 11:59:21 PM

How would u describe keith higgins' role at centre forward for mayo?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:03:15 AM
McEntee, McGinley and Jordan have been the shining lights of GAA analysis this year. That leaving cert thing must be a loads of balls.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2013, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 01, 2013, 11:59:21 PM

How would u describe keith higgins' role at centre forward for mayo?

I describe him as an attacking half forward. And when he switches back to corner back, I'd describe him as a defensive corner back! Simple really!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:03:15 AM
McEntee, McGinley and Jordan have been the shining lights of GAA analysis this year. That leaving cert thing must be a loads of balls.

Pretty sure Captain Obvious is McEntee after he alluded to Monaghan's minors 'over-celebrating' their Ulster win. Either that or the Captain is directing him behind the scenes via a hidden microphone.

I'm the fella putting all that good analysis in Dermo Jr's ears, btw.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on September 02, 2013, 12:28:27 AM
I note how the afternoon panel, and Brolly in particular, raved about how positive Dublin were and how they went 15 against 15 when earlier in the year he castigated Armagh and Paul Grimley for trying to do the same against Cavan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on September 02, 2013, 12:30:44 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2013, 12:03:15 AM
McEntee, McGinley and Jordan have been the shining lights of GAA analysis this year. That leaving cert thing must be a loads of balls.

McEntee always speaks well. McGinley was good on BBC. Jordan does not look comfortable yet - bit more experience required.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 02, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Is it too much to ask that RTE let Maloney and McStay do the final?
There was a noticeable lack of paddywhackery and mucksavagery during yesterdays commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 02, 2013, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Is it too much to ask that RTE let Maloney and McStay do the final?
There was a noticeable lack of paddywhackery and mucksavagery during yesterdays commentary.

apart from mcstays ' tammohawked it to the net' comment about mannions goal
WTF!!

would love maloney to do all the GAA games if possible.the best by a mile
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2013, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on September 02, 2013, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Is it too much to ask that RTE let Maloney and McStay do the final?
There was a noticeable lack of paddywhackery and mucksavagery during yesterdays commentary.

apart from mcstays ' tammohawked it to the net' comment about mannions goal
WTF!!

would love maloney to do all the GAA games if possible.the best by a mile

Thought that was a bit weird alright!!  Tony did well and knows his stuff.  Considering too it was his first time in the hot seat he looked fairly comfortable.   I wonder will the GAA be looking at the long term project here of changing the analysts and getting rid of the grumpy old men?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on September 02, 2013, 02:09:36 PM
Quotewould love maloney to do all the GAA games if possible.the best by a mile

really? i thought he was biased in favour of Dublin all the way through the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2013, 02:15:20 PM
I usually like Darragh Maloney, but I was annoyed at the way he kept mixing up Declan and Darran O'Sullivan, Darran and Donnacha Walsh, James O'Donoghue and Declan O'Sullivan etc etc. I wouldn't mind if it was some of the younger lads too much, but Jaysus them lads are on the go a long time at the top level.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 02, 2013, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2013, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on September 01, 2013, 11:36:04 PM
Thought the analysis this afternoon was once again a disgrace.
Tyrone minors were torn apart at half time, we were told by Spillane that the Tyrone template no longer works ( well that's another All Ireland final reached) so must be doing something right. Think that's five minor finals since 2000.
Secondly during the Senior game. Prior to throw in and at half time (Tyrone) were again mentioned for negative tactics, f**k me they weren't even playing in the game, and had no need to be mentioned.
Brolly then at the end goes on to wax lyrical about Dublin playing pure and non cynical football (the game was a joy no doubt) - however he made no mention of the most cynical incident in the game, when Johnny Cooper tripped Colm Cooper when going through for a score. It was as bad as the Cavanagh incident but you won't hear a word about it.

The anti Tyrone agenda is shocking, why are Tyrone mentioned during a Dublin v Kerry game?
Hope our minors show that the Template is still alive and well!!

what you're seeing is a changing of the guard.


The senior all-ireland will be won by either of two teams who don't have a blanket defence.

Systems are changing and philosophies are changing.
Donegal will be back next year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on September 02, 2013, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2013, 11:45:39 PM
Quote from: sam03/05 on September 01, 2013, 11:36:04 PM
Thought the analysis this afternoon was once again a disgrace.
Tyrone minors were torn apart at half time, we were told by Spillane that the Tyrone template no longer works ( well that's another All Ireland final reached) so must be doing something right. Think that's five minor finals since 2000.
Secondly during the Senior game. Prior to throw in and at half time (Tyrone) were again mentioned for negative tactics, f**k me they weren't even playing in the game, and had no need to be mentioned.
Brolly then at the end goes on to wax lyrical about Dublin playing pure and non cynical football (the game was a joy no doubt) - however he made no mention of the most cynical incident in the game, when Johnny Cooper tripped Colm Cooper when going through for a score. It was as bad as the Cavanagh incident but you won't hear a word about it.

The anti Tyrone agenda is shocking, why are Tyrone mentioned during a Dublin v Kerry game?
Hope our minors show that the Template is still alive and well!!

what you're seeing is a changing of the guard.


The senior all-ireland will be won by either of two teams who don't have a blanket defence.

Systems are changing and philosophies are changing.

What complete and utter nonsense!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on September 02, 2013, 03:08:10 PM
Ah sure ignorance is bliss Screen. Indiana is giddy with excitement following yesterdays match (and so he should be) so we can't expect him to be fully objective here. Like most things in life there is very little black and white, Dublin and Kerry both play blanket defence the same as most other teams. There is a spectrum with teams like Tyrone at one end and then Dublin, and the odd time, Kerry at the other. This gap isn't huge yet certain individuals in the media would have us believe that it's the width of the grand canyon.

Moreover Indy eulogised the one on one marking yesterday which was rubbish as there were loads of occasions where 'pack' defending disposed/stopped the relevant forward. See Nally's pics over on the match thread.

A great game yesterday and fair play to both teams. Will be a great final.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on September 02, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
Forgot to record the live game and my God is the RTE player annoying or what - frozen on a feckin ad for Ariel for the last 20 mins!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Crumpet on September 02, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 02, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2013, 12:13:11 AM
Pretty sure Captain Obvious is McEntee after he alluded to Monaghan's minors 'over-celebrating' their Ulster win. Either that or the Captain is directing him behind the scenes via a hidden microphone.
Great minds think alike and both of us were right. Monaghan showed the signs of celebration against Tipperary and if they only managed twelve points against Tyrone then they would have lost the Ulster final by eight points.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2013, 09:48:48 PM
Wankers !!
Had a family function to attend to today so I switched the phone off to avoid the score and watch the Sunday Game as if it was 3.30 all over again.
1st thing Cahill says us that we will be back again in 3 weeks !!!
w**ker
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 08, 2013, 09:58:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2013, 09:48:48 PM
w**kers !!
Had a family function to attend to today so I switched the phone off to avoid the score and watch the Sunday Game as if it was 3.30 all over again.
1st thing Cahill says us that we will be back again in 3 weeks !!!
w**ker

He meant for the International Rules.

BTW any football tickets in Derry?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2013, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 08, 2013, 09:58:24 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on September 08, 2013, 09:48:48 PM
w**kers !!
Had a family function to attend to today so I switched the phone off to avoid the score and watch the Sunday Game as if it was 3.30 all over again.
1st thing Cahill says us that we will be back again in 3 weeks !!!
w**ker

He meant for the International Rules.

BTW any football tickets in Derry?

nah 20th anniversary from our holy grail - all roads lead to Dublin !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 13, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oliver Callans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhSZk78mcjI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 13, 2013, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 13, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oliver Callans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhSZk78mcjI&feature=youtu.be

Hilarious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on September 13, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 13, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oliver Callans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhSZk78mcjI&feature=youtu.be

He has Spillane, Brolly and Marty Morrissey down to a tee!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on September 13, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 13, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oliver Callans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhSZk78mcjI&feature=youtu.be
Brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2013, 09:50:04 PM
G you Sligo lads are all the style these days lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 22, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
Did ye hear the sh1te from O'Hara - "great game of football " etc
Is it gone like SKY TV - every pundit has to repeat the propoganda of the official position as adopted by RTE?? >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 22, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
When did Brick Molloy and Ollie Moran retire ?

Former Donegal footballer and Limerick hurler ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 22, 2013, 10:03:47 PM
I liked the opportune switch to a vista of a Sun setting when the highlights reached injury time. RTE putting Mayo in the casket?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnpower on September 22, 2013, 10:10:56 PM
Jim Gavin calm operator good first season.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2013, 10:21:39 PM
Part and parcel of the game, really Eamon? pass the sick bucket!it obvious now, Brolly has had his knuckles rapped over the Sean Cavanagh tackle, and has hardly said much in general over the past couple of games. Dont rock the boat policy in action by RTE
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: northsideboy on September 22, 2013, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2013, 09:50:04 PM
G you Sligo lads are all the style these days lol

Eamo should talk talk to the Galvinator for fashion advice. He looks like he should be going to a Debs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on September 23, 2013, 11:19:04 AM
Drop O'Hara for Philly Jordan, a man who has the medals to back up his opinions. How O'Hara though yesterday was a classic is beyond me!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
Did ye hear the sh1te from O'Hara - "great game of football " etc
Is it gone like SKY TV - every pundit has to repeat the propoganda of the official position as adopted by RTE?? >:(
If you skytv pc shite talk listen to paul earley on commentary, the amount of cliched BS that came from him during the minor match was cringeful.
Quote from: Qwerty28 on September 23, 2013, 11:19:04 AM
Drop O'Hara for Philly Jordan, a man who has the medals to back up his opinions. How O'Hara though yesterday was a classic is beyond me!
LOL Jordan wouldnt lace O Haras boots ffs, ohara was limited by covering for other passengers around him, how many passengers had tyrone? sure he beat ye by himself in 2002 if you remember. Not OHaras fault he was from Sligo and stayed loyal but shows his character.

I really enjoyed it, it was a strange classic imo. And anytime mayo lose an AI final is a classic to Sligo people tbf.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mano on September 23, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
I really enjoyed it, it was a strange classic imo. And anytime mayo lose an AI final is a classic to Sligo people tbf.

You don't speak for me or most Sligo people with that comment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 23, 2013, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
Did ye hear the sh1te from O'Hara - "great game of football " etc
Is it gone like SKY TV - every pundit has to repeat the propoganda of the official position as adopted by RTE?? >:(
If you skytv pc shite talk listen to paul earley on commentary, the amount of cliched BS that came from him during the minor match was cringeful.
Quote from: Qwerty28 on September 23, 2013, 11:19:04 AM
Drop O'Hara for Philly Jordan, a man who has the medals to back up his opinions. How O'Hara though yesterday was a classic is beyond me!
LOL Jordan wouldnt lace O Haras boots ffs, ohara was limited by covering for other passengers around him, how many passengers had tyrone? sure he beat ye by himself in 2002 if you remember. Not OHaras fault he was from Sligo and stayed loyal but shows his character.

I really enjoyed it, it was a strange classic imo. And anytime mayo lose an AI final is a classic to Sligo people tbf.

good lord
:-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 23, 2013, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on September 23, 2013, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 22, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
Did ye hear the sh1te from O'Hara - "great game of football " etc
Is it gone like SKY TV - every pundit has to repeat the propoganda of the official position as adopted by RTE?? >:(
If you skytv pc shite talk listen to paul earley on commentary, the amount of cliched BS that came from him during the minor match was cringeful.
Quote from: Qwerty28 on September 23, 2013, 11:19:04 AM
Drop O'Hara for Philly Jordan, a man who has the medals to back up his opinions. How O'Hara though yesterday was a classic is beyond me!
LOL Jordan wouldnt lace O Haras boots ffs, ohara was limited by covering for other passengers around him, how many passengers had tyrone? sure he beat ye by himself in 2002 if you remember. Not OHaras fault he was from Sligo and stayed loyal but shows his character.

I really enjoyed it, it was a strange classic imo. And anytime mayo lose an AI final is a classic to Sligo people tbf.

good lord
:-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mano on September 23, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
I really enjoyed it, it was a strange classic imo. And anytime mayo lose an AI final is a classic to Sligo people tbf.

You don't speak for me or most Sligo people with that comment.
Your were supporting Mayo?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
All right obviously slagging off ohara brings out the worst in me, the above arent a true reflection of my opinions, a bit ott sorry...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mano on September 23, 2013, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mano on September 23, 2013, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on September 23, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
I really enjoyed it, it was a strange classic imo. And anytime mayo lose an AI final is a classic to Sligo people tbf.

You don't speak for me or most Sligo people with that comment.
Your were supporting Mayo?
I was indeed. I like a lot of people along the Mayo/Sligo border would have parent and family from Mayo so was hoping they would finally win it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 18, 2014, 03:36:18 PM
It wouldn't be summer without the Sunday Game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 03:40:25 PM
Great to see Tomas o'se on it but time for the other two boys to be given their p45's . Same auld shite from brolly and the programme is only on 1/2 hour. Oh fcuk it's got worse Tommy Carr on as well bad enough havin to listen to him on the radio but on tv now as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 18, 2014, 03:44:58 PM
Brolly started where he left off last year, O'Rourke never really says anything, O'Se got his speak in early, he might not get a word in later. Really looking forward to Sky's coverage, it certainly won't be as negative.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 03:48:24 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on May 18, 2014, 03:44:58 PM
Brolly started where he left off last year, O'Rourke never really says anything, O'Se got his speak in early, he might not get a word in later. Really looking forward to Sky's coverage, it certainly won't be as negative.

Yeah i wasn't really in favour of it but it probably can't come fast enough.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 18, 2014, 03:49:06 PM
Same old tired crap. Taxi please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 04:11:10 PM
You would have thought at this stage that rte could do something to keep the rain off the camera's
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 18, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Continuous shite talk on BBC as well where Sidebottom wants every foul to be a black card. He keeps going on about intent as the criterion for a black card and obviously doesn't know there's a specified set of types of foul to which the black card applies. Worse still, McHugh goes along with it. How do these characters get paid to commentate without doing even the most basic research?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 18, 2014, 04:31:53 PM
I hate the idea of Sky Sports coverage of GAA but if they are a smidgeon more positive than RTE or slightly less full of shit than BBC it'll be well worth it. The commentary by these lads is f**king dire.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
thanks hardy . Forgot about bbc anything it better than listening to cunningham and carr.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 04:34:48 PM
Ah now Hardy, Sidebottom has just said that he was reading the changes in the rules last night . You can't get more professional than that   ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 18, 2014, 04:52:05 PM
That's even worse!

Anyway, the (partly new) Nualas agree that Down are losing because they're not Donegal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 18, 2014, 04:54:19 PM
i was been a wee bit sarcastic  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 18, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
Sure I know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on May 18, 2014, 06:23:34 PM

BBC

Sidebottom was atrocious. Obsessed with the black card and lacks even the most basic understanding of what is or is not a relevant foul. Ruined the game completely.

Owen Mulligan?  Seriously BBC? Glib, irrelevant shite in the studio between mugsy and presenter is supposed to be informative or entertaining?  How about some analysis lads?  Some contrast from McGeeney last autumn.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 18, 2014, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on May 18, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Continuous shite talk on BBC as well where Sidebottom wants every foul to be a black card. He keeps going on about intent as the criterion for a black card and obviously doesn't know there's a specified set of types of foul to which the black card applies. Worse still, McHugh goes along with it. How do these characters get paid to commentate without doing even the most basic research?
I tried watching the first half  on BBCNI but the commentary was worse than the  football, that's how bad it was.
it was the most tedious,  grating, aggravating nonsense  commentary I have ever heard.
RTE was a breath of fresh air quality in comparison.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: glens73 on May 18, 2014, 07:24:30 PM
Out of the 2 panels today O'Se and McConville were the best. To my mind there is no justification for bringing Spillane back to replace O'Se. The first half was poor but at least O'Se didn't resort to the usual dirge that Spillane utters.

Brolly is just rude trying to talk over people. He was calling Tyrone a mediocre team after he has praised them in Gaelic Life, the other day, where he said they had the staying power to go all the way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 18, 2014, 07:31:29 PM
Was looking forward to hear what O Shea was going to say about the Cavanagh free at the end but Brolly and Lyster cut him off with their predictable attention seeking shitetalk.  Hopefully OShea is kept, by far the best and most interesting analyst today.  I enjoyed Phillip Jordan's "sprinkling of stardust" quote unfortunately it looked like the stardust got washed away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyroneman on May 18, 2014, 07:32:13 PM
Jaysus folks. If u haven't figured out Brolly only says what he believes will get him a few headlines.....sure he changes horses mid stream like no other......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on May 18, 2014, 07:49:47 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on May 18, 2014, 07:31:29 PM
Was looking forward to hear what O Shea was going to say about the Cavanagh free at the end but Brolly and Lyster cut him off with their predictable attention seeking shitetalk.  Hopefully OShea is kept, by far the best and most interesting analyst today.  I enjoyed Phillip Jordan's "sprinkling of stardust" quote unfortunately it looked like the stardust got washed away.

Its O'Sé..not "O'Shea"..sorry for being a nit but that drives me nuts.

Watched the game on RTE, but wanted to switch to BBC (was over-ruled!). Tommy Carr on RTE would make you sick. Said play was "pedantic" at one stage in 1st half and generally contributed zero of note.
Wee Martin was a hell of a player, but talks awful shite aswell, so can't imagine he would have been much better. Both of them need to up their game in terms of presentation and personnel probably.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on May 18, 2014, 08:34:32 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 18, 2014, 06:38:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on May 18, 2014, 04:19:55 PM
Continuous shite talk on BBC as well where Sidebottom wants every foul to be a black card. He keeps going on about intent as the criterion for a black card and obviously doesn't know there's a specified set of types of foul to which the black card applies. Worse still, McHugh goes along with it. How do these characters get paid to commentate without doing even the most basic research?
I tried watching the first half  on BBCNI but the commentary was worse than the  football, that's how bad it was.
it was the most tedious,  grating, aggravating nonsense  commentary I have ever heard.
RTE was a breath of fresh air quality in comparison.
I flicked between RTE and BBC's coverage and both commentary teams were poor. Tommy Carr sounded like he was reading a bedtime story to his child such was his boring tone of voice. In fairness the first half was that bad that it couldn't be dressed up as anything other than the dirge it was.

Tomas O'Se was seething at the end when Brolly and Lyster wouldn't let him talk. He was reading his programme while Brolly talked and then threw it onto the desk at the end when Lyster wouldn't let him make a point. Ciaran Whelan has also been on the receiving end of this in the past.

Tyrone are appalling to watch, so pedestrian and their team is full of average footballers. Down absolutely ripped them open when they decided to play a bit. They should finish the job in Newry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyroneboi on May 18, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
Ciaran Whealan has been excellent so far - proper analysis of the games!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 18, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
I love ya Gooch, but Senan McBride? C'mon boss, you're sitting beside his club manager from last year!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 18, 2014, 10:41:25 PM
Two of them called Westmeath Meath.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on May 18, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Longer highlights of the hurling round robin games than the Leinster football is a bit disappointing, especially as my own side got a first win over Offaly since the 60s I think! Pretty standard uninformed "analysis" of game too as sending off had little impact in my opinion!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 18, 2014, 11:51:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2014, 10:41:25 PM
Two of them called Westmeath Meath.

That would normally get right under my skin, more pursuing concerns after the weekend. Complete inattention to detail. As bad as the time Tommy Lyon's kept calling Spillane Michael.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 19, 2014, 12:02:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 18, 2014, 11:51:48 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2014, 10:41:25 PM
Two of them called Westmeath Meath.

That would normally get right under my skin, more pursuing concerns after the weekend. Complete inattention to detail. As bad as the time Tommy Lyon's kept calling Spillane Michael.

Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 19, 2014, 12:09:32 AM
Just giving the young lads a run out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Banter Panther on May 19, 2014, 12:13:08 AM
I'm starting to get the impression that people have finally reached saturation point with Brolly. I think he was found out last year when his beloved Donegal were not only beaten (twice, something Brolly was having people believe could not happen even once), but absolutely humiliated. He's jumped horse pretty embarrasingly to Dublin this time and has suddenly turned on Donegal. People were always fooled into believing he 'was right more often than he's wrong', but now people are finally waking up and seeing that it's not hard to be right if you back every horse that takes the lead.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Banter Panther on May 19, 2014, 12:59:56 AM
Quote from: Banter Panther on May 19, 2014, 12:13:08 AM
I'm starting to get the impression that people have finally reached saturation point with Brolly. I think he was found out last year when his beloved Donegal were not only beaten (twice, something Brolly was having people believe could not happen even once), but absolutely humiliated. He's jumped horse pretty embarrasingly to Dublin this time and has suddenly turned on Donegal. People were always fooled into believing he 'was right more often than he's wrong', but now people are finally waking up and seeing that it's not hard to be right if you back every horse that takes the lead.
Just to extend on my own point, once Donegal were beaten, he started saying that Mayo's football was some of the best he'd ever seen and said with great authority that they would not be beaten. They were beaten. Now he's all about Dublin. Prepare for him not only to get right on the team that beat Dublin, and not only that, but he'll turn around and slate the Dubs. If Dublin do win the All-Ireland, sure he'll have been right all along. Not to easy to be 'right most of the time' when you do that, eh?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on May 19, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
Thought Brolly looked very thin...and the camera is supposed to add a few kg.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on May 19, 2014, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 19, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
Thought Brolly looked very thin...and the camera is supposed to add a few kg.

he seems to be riding alot lately hence the weight loss.........................he also continuously rolled snot balls yesterday with his fingers, OSe was good however the use of "yer man" instead of players names the odd time was a bit  ?? ............................ORourke was the usual safe Im telling the grand children on my knee a story style natter
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: neilthemac on May 19, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
why show more highlights of Tyrone and Down, when it was already live on tv?

Surely the Longford v Offaly, Wicklow v Laois and Roscommon v Leitrim games deserved higher billing and then show scoring highlights from the earlier live game.
I just don't get that. What idiot makes those decisions?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 19, 2014, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 19, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
why show more highlights of Tyrone and Down, when it was already live on tv?

Surely the Longford v Offaly, Wicklow v Laois and Roscommon v Leitrim games deserved higher billing and then show scoring highlights from the earlier live game.
I just don't get that. What idiot makes those decisions?

It's always my bugbear as well. It's like they show the live game again because they've already done their homework on that one and it's handy for them. I know people who were at the match probably like seeing it on the Sunday Game as well. A midweek highlights show is badly missing, where they could give all the games adequate coverage. I was hoping Sky Sports might do something like that, but I think not based on the blurb on their web site.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 19, 2014, 10:45:44 AM
I thought Sky were doing a midweek show but I presumed they wouldn't start it until their live coverage started.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: neilthemac on May 19, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Yeah, there is plenty of space in the RTE schedules for a highlights program midweek or Monday night - even the rugby gets their own discussion show! At least they could give more time to the hurling games as well.
If not, let TG4 have a show. Their Seo Spoirt is already the best sport show on Irish tv.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ringfort on May 19, 2014, 01:30:26 PM
Was anyone watching it online on the rte player? I was trying to view in UK with the help of a proxy server but it kept crashing every two mins. Saw most of the Tyrone Down highlights when I'd already seen the live game and nothing else. Very frustrating. Does the evening highlights programme usuallu appear on demand later on in the week?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 19, 2014, 04:46:37 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on May 19, 2014, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 19, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
Thought Brolly looked very thin...and the camera is supposed to add a few kg.

he seems to be riding alot lately hence the weight loss

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Gary-Coleman-wtf.gif)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sensethetone on May 21, 2014, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on May 19, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
Thought Brolly looked very thin...and the camera is supposed to add a few kg.

He wants to look good in a red bikini
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ringfort on May 22, 2014, 01:19:05 AM
Lads, as asked above, does anyone know if the Sunday Game highlights show is a available to view on demand on the rte player for those of us living outside Ireland and if so, when? Weds night now and no sign.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
Yes, it will be available though I'm sure it's normally up by now. It will definitely be up and I'd say it should be available by today, waiting on the feckers myself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 22, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
Longford Chairman, Brendan Gilmore, has launched an attack on The Sunday Game over piss poor coverage of Longford v Offaly. I can't be bothered posting article here.

I have sent, via a client, who is a good pal of Dessie Cahill, my own formal complaint!!

(Although I am mindful that should we get more coverage, say for the next game, then the whole country could actually see had bad we can be. Be careful what you wish for, as you may get it)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 22, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 19, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Yeah, there is plenty of space in the RTE schedules for a highlights program midweek or Monday night - even the rugby gets their own discussion show! At least they could give more time to the hurling games as well.
If not, let TG4 have a show. Their Seo Spoirt is already the best sport show on Irish tv.

Sure rugby is the national sport in Donnybrook!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 22, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 19, 2014, 10:48:55 AM
Yeah, there is plenty of space in the RTE schedules for a highlights program midweek or Monday night - even the rugby gets their own discussion show!

I imagine they see Against the Head as the rugby version of The Sunday Game. Plus last year there was the Sunday Game and Championship Matters mid week during the championship. Granted Championship Matters was generally shite. So there were 2 GAA highlights/discussion shows during the week last year and only 1 rugby highlights/discussion show.

Just saying as some seem to think it was the other way around.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
I remember Des Cahill used to host a Monday night radio sports discussion show a few years back. Even during the spring when the premiership, Heineken cup, 6 nations and champions league games were going on, the majority of the texts and calls tended to be GAA related. I would be absolutely positive that a midweek review/preview GAA show with discussion, analysis, twitter/ text questions or view points would be a certain audience puller and something that could become as much a stable of the RTE summer schedule as the SG is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
I remember Des Cahill used to host a Monday night radio sports discussion show a few years back. Even during the spring when the premiership, Heineken cup, 6 nations and champions league games were going on, the majority of the texts and calls tended to be GAA related. I would be absolutely positive that a midweek review/preview GAA show with discussion, analysis, twitter/ text questions or view points would be a certain audience puller and something that could become as much a stable of the RTE summer schedule as the SG is.
As long as RTE aren't involved I would think it's a runner.

Lest we forget
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
I remember Des Cahill used to host a Monday night radio sports discussion show a few years back. Even during the spring when the premiership, Heineken cup, 6 nations and champions league games were going on, the majority of the texts and calls tended to be GAA related. I would be absolutely positive that a midweek review/preview GAA show with discussion, analysis, twitter/ text questions or view points would be a certain audience puller and something that could become as much a stable of the RTE summer schedule as the SG is.
As long as RTE aren't involved I would think it's a runner.

Lest we forget
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/QVX6ViW55ek/0.jpg)

That screen cap is from a fantastic debate on cynical play.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
But that was a half hour bucket of shite!! Don't mind your daft quizzes, use the time since Sunday to give us analysis that uses camera angles that we didn't see on Sunday, discuss games that weren't shown live the previous weekend etc. The show would need to be a hour long with something of a left field take on the game (though not in a half arsed 'funny' way). Features on players that we are not familiar with etc. I actually don't think it would be hard to do a good, revenue making (for RTE) show. I'm writing this while listening to podcasts from newstalk and the second captains and they often have good discussions about the GAA and other sports. Why can't we do this on TV?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
I remember Des Cahill used to host a Monday night radio sports discussion show a few years back. Even during the spring when the premiership, Heineken cup, 6 nations and champions league games were going on, the majority of the texts and calls tended to be GAA related. I would be absolutely positive that a midweek review/preview GAA show with discussion, analysis, twitter/ text questions or view points would be a certain audience puller and something that could become as much a stable of the RTE summer schedule as the SG is.
As long as RTE aren't involved I would think it's a runner.

Lest we forget
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/QVX6ViW55ek/0.jpg)

That screen cap is from a fantastic debate on cynical play.
Indeed it was, no offence towards Evans fan club intended. First picture of Championship matters that came up.
Still absolute shite for the most part last year, wojus stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on May 22, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
But that was a half hour bucket of shite!! Don't mind your daft quizzes, use the time since Sunday to give us analysis that uses camera angles that we didn't see on Sunday, discuss games that weren't shown live the previous weekend etc. The show would need to be a hour long with something of a left field take on the game (though not in a half arsed 'funny' way). Features on players that we are not familiar with etc. I actually don't think it would be hard to do a good, revenue making (for RTE) show. I'm writing this while listening to podcasts from newstalk and the second captains and they often have good discussions about the GAA and other sports. Why can't we do this on TV?

Simply because they keep employing these guys like Marty who have been doing it the same way for 20 odd years or however long, they are still in the job so why change.

Why don't they look at sky and the range of programme that they have on the various sports, they could pull the best bits from their coverage of the golf, rugby, soccer etc or is it too expensive to give our national games the proper attention.

For example, you could have ex players on the technical elements of the games, like the golf guys with the big screen.
A Gary Neville type piece on the monday show.

Just two examples of how they could improve the content of the show and get away from guys just giving their opinions on players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 02:18:29 PM
Agree 100%. The one cornerstone of any midweek program would be that Marty or the like wouldn't be involved. We would need fresh voices and different perspectives than what we get from the SG crew.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
I didn't think Championship Matters was too bad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2014, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2014, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
I remember Des Cahill used to host a Monday night radio sports discussion show a few years back. Even during the spring when the premiership, Heineken cup, 6 nations and champions league games were going on, the majority of the texts and calls tended to be GAA related. I would be absolutely positive that a midweek review/preview GAA show with discussion, analysis, twitter/ text questions or view points would be a certain audience puller and something that could become as much a stable of the RTE summer schedule as the SG is.
As long as RTE aren't involved I would think it's a runner.

Lest we forget
(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/QVX6ViW55ek/0.jpg)

That screen cap is from a fantastic debate on cynical play.
Indeed it was, no offence towards Evans fan club intended. First picture of Championship matters that came up.
Still absolute shite for the most part last year, wojus stuff.

There was also that quiz where Big Aidan got every question wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2014, 02:48:00 PM
The second captains stuff is usually very good on podcast, oisin mcconville (who comes across far better on this than as a bbc pundit)  & Anthony moyles are the usually guests
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
I didn't think Championship Matters was too bad.
I thought it was alright aswell. But there's a big anti Marty constituency out there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 22, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
Longford Chairman, Brendan Gilmore, has launched an attack on The Sunday Game over piss poor coverage of Longford v Offaly. I can't be bothered posting article here.

I have sent, via a client, who is a good pal of Dessie Cahill, my own formal complaint!!

(Although I am mindful that should we get more coverage, say for the next game, then the whole country could actually see had bad we can be. Be careful what you wish for, as you may get it)
http://www.irishtimes.com/the-seasons-of-sundays-in-their-own-words-1.1476526?page=2

And so it goes. From not being able to send two cameras to a game in the mid-'70s, 'The Sunday Game' now covers close to 100 games a year in some shape or form. The biggest complaint the staff hear is the same now as it was then.

PB: "Not enough coverage.
RTÉ never show our county."

ML: "Ye only show the big boys."

DC: "Ye're always anti-our county."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 02:58:30 PM
Yep. I think Seafoid has asked what RTE could do that would make the SG better and I can see where he is coming from but I think a lot of simple things could improve their shows. Eugene Magee was interviewed on Newstalk discussing Offaly football's problems and he did, as he usually does, some amount of waffling and stuttering Stanley type of delivery. Pat Spillane is another who uses a thousands words when one hundred would suffice. I think getting panelists who can dissect a game and get to the point quickly would help for a start and a midweek show with a more in-depth analysis of the games would be a big help. For me, it isn't necessarily about the format but the content of that format which is often neither informative or entertaining. 

EDIT: Sorry Seafoid posted the above before I saw you had joined the discussion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 22, 2014, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 02:58:30 PM
Yep. I think Seafoid has asked what RTE could do that would make the SG better and I can see where he is coming from but I think a lot of simple things could improve their shows. Eugene Magee was interviewed on Newstalk discussing Offaly football's problems and he did, as he usually does, some amount of waffling and stuttering Stanley type of delivery. Pat Spillane is another who uses a thousands words when one hundred would suffice. I think getting panelists who can dissect a game and get to the point quickly would help for a start and a midweek show with a more in-depth analysis of the games would be a big help. For me, it isn't necessarily about the format but the content of that format which is often neither informative or entertaining. 

EDIT: Sorry Seafoid posted the above before I saw you had joined the discussion.

So more pithy and less windy?








Do I get the job?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
I thought the Gooch did well the other night.
He's never going to say anything too controversial but at least he was sensible & articulate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2014, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 02:58:30 PM
Yep. I think Seafoid has asked what RTE could do that would make the SG better and I can see where he is coming from but I think a lot of simple things could improve their shows. Eugene Magee was interviewed on Newstalk discussing Offaly football's problems and he did, as he usually does, some amount of waffling and stuttering Stanley type of delivery. Pat Spillane is another who uses a thousands words when one hundred would suffice. I think getting panelists who can dissect a game and get to the point quickly would help for a start and a midweek show with a more in-depth analysis of the games would be a big help. For me, it isn't necessarily about the format but the content of that format which is often neither informative or entertaining. 

EDIT: Sorry Seafoid posted the above before I saw you had joined the discussion.
I agree about the content being the problem. You walk away thinking you didn't learn anything much from the programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2014, 03:13:40 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.
Longford could have its own dedicated  channel on Saorview with Albert Reynolds nostalgia and the football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq_tPH_ZBhs
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.

The analysis of the Tyrone kickouts after Morgan went off was a perfect example of how to use available footage to illustrate a simple but important piece of data.
You can say 'Tyrone lost the next 4 kickouts' or you can demonstrate how and why they lost the next 4 kickouts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.

The analysis of the Tyrone kickouts after Morgan went off was a perfect example of how to use available footage to illustrate a simple but important piece of data.
You can say 'Tyrone lost the next 4 kickouts' or you can demonstrate how and why they lost the next 4 kickouts.

Precisely. And Whelan showing Fanning of Louth moving back to sweep in front of the full back line was another example I was thinking of.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 22, 2014, 03:59:47 PM
Haven't seen the SG yet but that sounds exactly like the type of thing they should have been doing all along. The Sky effect I wonder? That type of thing is interesting, informative and a whole deal better than simply giving out about too much hand passing etc. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.

The analysis of the Tyrone kickouts after Morgan went off was a perfect example of how to use available footage to illustrate a simple but important piece of data.
You can say 'Tyrone lost the next 4 kickouts' or you can demonstrate how and why they lost the next 4 kickouts.

Precisely. And Whelan showing Fanning of Louth moving back to sweep in front of the full back line was another example I was thinking of.

Michael Duignan springs to mind as a good exponent of proper real time analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
Yeah, I thought the Sunday game was good there. Whelan was articulate, and while it wasn't anything overly complex, a lot of the time it isn't! The clips of the Tyrone half backs visibly shrinking into themselves and allowing the Down half forwards stream towards the breaking ball areas was as clear as you can get, and very interesting. Interesting because it was shot from behind the goals on a different camera, not one used during the game. Those cameras behind the goals often pick up action and movement that you don't get from the standard broadcast camera positions.

Also the defensive wall employed by Roscommon (I think) designed to encourage Leitrim into running into a trap (almost like a basketball press) 40 metres out was cleverly shown.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 22, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
QuoteLongford could have its own dedicated  channel on Saorview with Albert Reynolds nostalgia and the football.

Albert is from Roscommon!

QuoteThey should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.

LOL
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2014, 04:34:11 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
Also the defensive wall employed by Roscommon (I think) designed to encourage Leitrim into running into a trap (almost like a basketball press) 40 metres out was cleverly shown.
Now if only we can learn to defend on our side of the half way line we'll be grand. ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 22, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.

The analysis of the Tyrone kickouts after Morgan went off was a perfect example of how to use available footage to illustrate a simple but important piece of data.
You can say 'Tyrone lost the next 4 kickouts' or you can demonstrate how and why they lost the next 4 kickouts.

Precisely. And Whelan showing Fanning of Louth moving back to sweep in front of the full back line was another example I was thinking of.

Michael Duignan springs to mind as a good exponent of proper real time analysis.

You seldom get that from the panels at half time during the actual games, they more or less pick out the highlights and talk over them, maybe the odd bit where some team or other will need to buck up to get back in the game etc, normally pretty generic stuff.

Maybe they don't have the time with all the ads etc, etc, don't know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2014, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 22, 2014, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 03:25:58 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
The Sunday Game seem to be changing direction. There was slightly more analysis there than usual on the night time highlights show I thought and on the live afternoon edition they seem to be moving towards splitting up the 3 Nualas. Similar to the way the school teacher has to move the biggest dossers in the classroom to the four corners. They should never increase coverage of any Longford game though, too much at the minute if anything.

The analysis of the Tyrone kickouts after Morgan went off was a perfect example of how to use available footage to illustrate a simple but important piece of data.
You can say 'Tyrone lost the next 4 kickouts' or you can demonstrate how and why they lost the next 4 kickouts.

Precisely. And Whelan showing Fanning of Louth moving back to sweep in front of the full back line was another example I was thinking of.

Michael Duignan springs to mind as a good exponent of proper real time analysis.

You seldom get that from the panels at half time during the actual games, they more or less pick out the highlights and talk over them, maybe the odd bit where some team or other will need to buck up to get back in the game etc, normally pretty generic stuff.

Maybe they don't have the time with all the ads etc, etc, don't know.
They don't have time to sit down and pick up what really matters either. I was watching the 3 musketeers with Bill Herlihy on the second day of the Champions League Semis and they focused on the first match, 24 hours later, and it was actually very  informative  because they had analysed the plays and could say exactly why Guardiola's tactics didn't work with examples from when he was at Barcelona etc.

And you need time to do that. Talking fluff is more the default when it's live. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
Yeah, I thought the Sunday game was good there. Whelan was articulate, and while it wasn't anything overly complex, a lot of the time it isn't! The clips of the Tyrone half backs visibly shrinking into themselves and allowing the Down half forwards stream towards the breaking ball areas was as clear as you can get, and very interesting. Interesting because it was shot from behind the goals on a different camera, not one used during the game. Those cameras behind the goals often pick up action and movement that you don't get from the standard broadcast camera positions.

Also the defensive wall employed by Roscommon (I think) designed to encourage Leitrim into running into a trap (almost like a basketball press) 40 metres out was cleverly shown.

I hope they do the same for Cluxton at some stage.
Seeing the movement out the field from the keepers perspective is much more informative than the side-on view.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on May 22, 2014, 11:06:10 PM
Longford chairman Brendan Gilmore has hit out at the Sunday Game's coverage of the county's Leinster championship win, claiming the discussion unfairly centred on Offaly.

Analysis of the game ran for less than a minute of Sunday evening's programme and Gilmore was disappointed the Longford players were not afforded the credit they deserved.

Pundits Kevin McStay and Ciarán Whelan were charged with assessing the first-round clash, but the discussion was focused completely on Offaly's Leinster woes of recent years.

Gilmore referenced last year's controversial qualifier encounter against Wexford which was the focus of much debate on the Sunday Game.

He added: "Now when we do win, there is very little discussion on it. Hopefully in three weeks' time if we do win again, the coverage will concentrate a little more on Longford."

Gilmore accepted Offaly carry greater weight in football circles, but said weaker counties should not be discriminated against in terms of the level of coverage they receive.

"I was disappointed with the coverage," he fumed.

"This was big win for both players and management. There was a lot of pressure there and it was a much needed championship win. I was involved in our last championship win over Offaly and that was back in 1965 so that tells you how much we needed to win this. Everyone in Longford then was looking forward to sitting down and watching the Sunday Game on Sunday night to see what the pundits had to say about Longford, to see how the game was analysed.

"Fair play to Ciarán Whelan who congratulated Longford on the win and focused on Longford despite the fact that he was asked to comment on Offaly. I was looking forward to see who the lads thought played well, what areas they believed we were strongest in. There was none of that.

"We deserve fair coverage and I don't think our lads got that. I was disappointed that the rest of the pundits didn't even comment on Longford's win."

Longford midfielder Michael Quinn insists progress will not have been achieved unless the scalp of Wexford is taken on the second weekend of June.

"[Sunday's] win is not really worth anything if you can't follow it up with another game. Consistency is a huge problem that we need to work on. Once you get the work-rate, the consistency will come.

"We know we have three tough weeks ahead of us but it's a good position to be in and we're looking forward to it.

"There's no love lost between the two of us but we know what they're capable of. At the end of the day, we played in our last league game against them that led to us being relegated so we're out for revenge."

Meanwhile Offaly secretary Tommy Byrne said they will await referee Martin Higgins' report before deciding on whether or not to appeal David Hanlon's red card.

The full-back was dismissed after 66 minutes of Sunday's contest.



This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Tuesday, May 20, 2014
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 23, 2014, 09:22:09 AM
Qwerty28

I think you can understand why I decided not to post The Chair's comments in a previous post.

Reads awful gobshitey to my eyes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2014, 01:10:29 PM
Hence the value of a good manager who sees things and reacts in real time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 25, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
Pat Spillane says the black card wasn't really tested in the league because of the lack of physicality in the tackle before immediately saying it should have been trialled in the pre-season competitions like the McKenna cup etc. So Pat, if the league and McKenna cup don't give us realistic test conditions for the black card then what's the point in trialling them in these competitions? An argument devoid of any logic.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on May 26, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
For all Eoin Mulligan's flamboyance on and off field he is a terribly wooden analyst. Would have expected him to be more at ease in front of the camera.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on May 26, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on May 26, 2014, 09:32:48 AM
For all Eoin Mulligan's flamboyance on and off field he is a terribly wooden analyst. Would have expected him to be more at ease in front of the camera.

It is pain staking to watch. Fair play to him for giving it a go - not as easy as some make it look I'm sure. What would the rate be for doin it?

Tomás O'Sé  is excellent though.

If Mugsy had half a dozen pints in him he'd be much better. lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cockahoop on May 26, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
on another note i thought the highlights of the down tyrone match were terrible with commentary which was obviously done in a studio after the match and terrible sound quaulity,i would have thought with sky getting involved rte would up there act
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ringfort on May 28, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
Has anyone outside the Island of Ireland been able to view the evening highlights edition of The Sunday Game yet? My understanding of it was that this would be available to view on demand this year (not sure where I read that but thought it was to do with the upcoming GAAGO service). I have not been able to find anything on the rte player or through the 'watch and listen' section of the rte GAA-part of the website.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 28, 2014, 01:19:54 PM
Nope, I thought so too ringfort and I'm sure I was able to watch it last year. I've tweeted both the Sunday Game and RTE player asking this question but got no reply. It appears it won't be available abroad but I don't understand why.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 03, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
I take it all back, that was awful muck on Sunday having a discussion about the black card. It's highlights and insightful analysis we want to see, and not allocating the main highlights to a match that was already shown live that afternoon.  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on June 03, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 03, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
I take it all back, that was awful muck on Sunday having a discussion about the black card. It's highlights and insightful analysis we want to see, and not allocating the main highlights to a match that was already shown live that afternoon.  >:(

Totally agree. I was really looking forward to the highlights of the Antrim Fermanagh game but it was condensed into a couple of minutes with most of the scores not shown. The black card debate was quite interesting but took too long. I also think eoin mulligan is terrible as a pundit. He has worked for bbc in this role for a year or 2 but shows no signs of improvement. If they want a Tyrone perspective on rte they should've gone for enda Mcginley.  He is intelligent, articulate and gives a good insight. Very impressed with Tomas o'se also.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 03, 2014, 07:43:31 PM
Agree with your comments re Enda, he was impressive last year on BBC. However, I'd be sure, as a fellow Clubman of Harte's, he would not make himself to RTE at the present time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 06, 2014, 06:39:25 PM
where can i watch the sunday game (9.30) version again on web?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: All of a Sludden on June 06, 2014, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 06, 2014, 06:39:25 PM
where can i watch the sunday game (9.30) version again on web?

http://www.rte.ie/player/es/show/10288950/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orangemac on June 08, 2014, 10:46:05 PM
Des Cahill just said Shakalakaboomboom on Sunday game. Seems to be as part of some sort of dare where he has to say certain words every week. These words are sent in on Twitter.

Is this how RTE are stepping up to the plate in face of Sky showing GAA?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 08, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
Whelan is a good analyst, probably the best rte have
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on June 08, 2014, 10:46:05 PM
Des Cahill just said Shakalakaboomboom on Sunday game. Seems to be as part of some sort of dare where he has to say certain words every week. These words are sent in on Twitter.

Is this how RTE are stepping up to the plate in face of Sky showing GAA?

#descahill Please, please, please say Brolizedik after every sentence!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 08, 2014, 11:05:37 PM
Armagh looking like areal bunch of pricks there, especially Mckeever, even when split up and cavan move to the outside line, McKeever comes up again lining up along the wire, so that obviously pre planned move.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 08, 2014, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 08, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
Whelan is a good analyst, probably the best rte have

I've been quite impressed by Thomas O'Se too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2014, 11:10:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 08, 2014, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 08, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
Whelan is a good analyst, probably the best rte have

I've been quite impressed by Thomas O'Se too.

It is time to move on to these younger lads and away from Brolizedik and Pat.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 08, 2014, 11:11:14 PM
Yeah, thought tomas was decent too

Do rte not have the rights for highlights of the games that are on sky?? (and vice versa)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on June 08, 2014, 11:14:35 PM
Quote from: lenny on June 03, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 03, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
I take it all back, that was awful muck on Sunday having a discussion about the black card. It's highlights and insightful analysis we want to see, and not allocating the main highlights to a match that was already shown live that afternoon.  >:(

Totally agree. I was really looking forward to the highlights of the Antrim Fermanagh game but it was condensed into a couple of minutes with most of the scores not shown. The black card debate was quite interesting but took too long. I also think eoin mulligan is terrible as a pundit. He has worked for bbc in this role for a year or 2 but shows no signs of improvement. If they want a Tyrone perspective on rte they should've gone for enda Mcginley.  He is intelligent, articulate and gives a good insight. Very impressed with Tomas o'se also.

Mcginley was excellent last year on bbc.

And if he were to be asked I think it's sad that he wouldn't do it because of mickeys feelings!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 08, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 08, 2014, 10:47:30 PM
Whelan is a good analyst, probably the best rte have

Seems to be afeard of addressing anything controversial.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sam03/05 on June 08, 2014, 11:33:56 PM
Great to be able to watch Sunday game 9:30pm streaming live online.
Come end of June this ends, it's meant to be available in North but anywhere I try, it never works
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hairyUlsterman on June 08, 2014, 11:55:48 PM
I wish Joe Brolly would do the sunday game highlights as well, I wouldn't mind Tohill back as well, it has some spark missing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: delgany on June 09, 2014, 12:08:49 AM
Martin carney is a very poor co commentator , his tone is dreary and his analysis mundane !  Can't understnad how kevin mc stay cab be co commentator for Mayo matches. Should be a neutral ! His views. Lean too heavily towards Mayo e.gm when Roscommon No 6 got booked for diving , shouldve been a black card for me for mayo defender !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 09, 2014, 12:20:01 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 09, 2014, 12:08:49 AM
Martin carney is a very poor co commentator , his tone is dreary and his analysis mundane !  Can't understnad how kevin mc stay cab be co commentator for Mayo matches. Should be a neutral ! His views. Lean too heavily towards Mayo e.gm when Roscommon No 6 got booked for diving , shouldve been a black card for me for mayo defender !

You should Google McStay and Roscommon before you post.

"Should be a neutral ! His views. Lean too heavily towards Mayo e.gm"

Now a Mayo EGM would see skin and hair flying but despite that, 'his views' are not a sentence.

Unlike Joe Brolly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 09, 2014, 12:28:36 AM
I'm impressed with Tomas as well. I think he'll be good this and will get better over time. He is writing some decent pieces midweek as well too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 09, 2014, 12:08:49 AM
Martin carney is a very poor co commentator , his tone is dreary and his analysis mundane !  Can't understnad how kevin mc stay cab be co commentator for Mayo matches. Should be a neutral ! His views. Lean too heavily towards Mayo e.gm when Roscommon No 6 got booked for diving , shouldve been a black card for me for mayo defender !

Martin Carney meanders along for 90% of the game, then gets completely disproportionately excited for the remaining 10%.
He's like a fella that's happily dozing away until his elbow slips off the desk.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 09, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Carney stutters, trips  and farts his way through the commentary of a game.
Not only is his voice like an oul dolls but he constantly gets names wrong as well as basic detail.
I don't think he can see half the action to be honest. Its downright inaccurate half the time.
He has awful habit of trying to explain a piece of action that happened 10seconds ago whilst the play continues.
Too slow to keep up with the play.

Whelan and O'Se are decent (moreso O'Se). Whelan is a big fluffy dog and wont say anything too controversial or forthright.
Id like to see O'Se have a go at Joe some day on one of the live games.
Joe was particularly fidgety this week in the chair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 09, 2014, 10:27:02 AM
Whelan looked like the piles were playing up something awful last night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2014, 10:31:55 AM
I rarely listen to Joe etc as they're rubbish but I listened a wee bit yesterday and Joe played the intellectual card when he was talking about how Mayo were "pompous" and Spillane more or less told him he was talking through his arse.

So if Joe's point is in doubt, which it was, then he just insults the guy. Don't get me wrong Spillane is well past his sell by date but if this is the analysis Brolly has resorted to then maybe he is too.

He also seems to not like Mayo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on June 09, 2014, 10:37:45 AM
What was O'Se on about saying Andy Moran mightn't be able to do it in Croke Park but he can do it here. He only scored 1-2 in the AIF half fit ffs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: God14 on June 09, 2014, 10:40:23 AM
Joe doesn't look well at all. His posture has deteriorated alarmingly. He seems to have lost some weight and his complexion is grey & gaunt. I thought his speech was also a little slurred a few times yesterday.
He looks ill, and if he was diagnosed with something he would be the type to continue on, fight it & and keep it on the QT.

Whatever about the bollix I hope he's ok. He's a very decent fella when all is said & done.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 10:44:58 AM
Brolly and O'Rourke are fine together but Spillane just bugs me at this stage.
Every comment seems like it's sole purpose is to set-up some ham-fisted 'controversial' soundbite.
The awkward tension between himself and Joe makes for uncomfortable viewing too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 09, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 09, 2014, 10:27:02 AM
Whelan looked like the piles were playing up something awful last night.

Can he not get a jacket to fit as it seems to well up his back whatever way he sits in the chair?

Him and Tomas are good in all fairness compared to the others.

If ever you saw fence sitting it was when Ger Lock and big Brendan were asked to comment on the pull from the Waterford full forward on the Cork fullback after a bit of shoving around. Neither really wanted to comment as it was all manly stuff, albeit outside the rules.

TBH, Cork lad hit first with a dig to the ribs, Waterford lad turned and gave him the full of the blade. Not sure how the rules cope with how hard you strike as it could be argued both struck with intent!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 11:09:14 AM
I had to laugh at Ger declaring he hit him an area where he wasn't going to do 'any major damage', therefore the ref was right to let it go.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 09, 2014, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on June 09, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Carney stutters, trips  and farts his way through the commentary of a game.
Not only is his voice like an oul dolls but he constantly gets names wrong as well as basic detail.
I don't think he can see half the action to be honest. Its downright inaccurate half the time.
He has awful habit of trying to explain a piece of action that happened 10seconds ago whilst the play continues.
Too slow to keep up with the play.

Whelan and O'Se are decent (moreso O'Se). Whelan is a big fluffy dog and wont say anything too controversial or forthright.
Id like to see O'Se have a go at Joe some day on one of the live games.
Joe was particularly fidgety this week in the chair.

Is the aim to be controversial or to analyse the games??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
The aim of Des Cahill seems to be to get as much controversy as possible.

O'Se and Whelan don't seem to like the controversy however I suspect they have both been fingered by video evidence highlighted on the sunday game (definitely O'Se anyway) so probably don't want other players to end up the same as them!

If they keep boys like these maybe they'll get good analysis like the hurling unlike the make a name for yourself controversy crap that's supposed to be analysis these days. O'Se's analysis of Cluxton's kickouts were very interesting. Not often you'd say that after the sunday game.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 01:11:58 PM
I can't be sure but I reckon Tomás thinks Dublin have an unfair advantage playing all their games in Croke Park.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 09, 2014, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
The aim of Des Cahill seems to be to get as much controversy as possible.


That hair is controversy enough! He must dye the hell out of it..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on June 09, 2014, 01:21:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 10:14:54 AM
Martin Carney meanders along for 90% of the game, then gets completely disproportionately excited for the remaining 10%.
He's like a fella that's happily dozing away until his elbow slips off the desk.
;D Dead right Jinxy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 10:14:54 AM
Quote from: delgany on June 09, 2014, 12:08:49 AM
Martin carney is a very poor co commentator , his tone is dreary and his analysis mundane !  Can't understnad how kevin mc stay cab be co commentator for Mayo matches. Should be a neutral ! His views. Lean too heavily towards Mayo e.gm when Roscommon No 6 got booked for diving , shouldve been a black card for me for mayo defender !

Martin Carney meanders along for 90% of the game, then gets completely disproportionately excited for the remaining 10%.
He's like a fella that's happily dozing away until his elbow slips off the desk.

;D Probably the best description of the man so far!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J OGorman on June 09, 2014, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 09, 2014, 10:57:21 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 09, 2014, 10:27:02 AM
Whelan looked like the piles were playing up something awful last night.

Can he not get a jacket to fit as it seems to well up his back whatever way he sits in the chair?

Him and Tomas are good in all fairness compared to the others.

If ever you saw fence sitting it was when Ger Lock and big Brendan were asked to comment on the pull from the Waterford full forward on the Cork fullback after a bit of shoving around. Neither really wanted to comment as it was all manly stuff, albeit outside the rules.

TBH, Cork lad hit first with a dig to the ribs, Waterford lad turned and gave him the full of the blade. Not sure how the rules cope with how hard you strike as it could be argued both struck with intent!!

T'was great. Great great great. Really great. Ah he's great, great altogether. All joking aside, himself and Whelan are very good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on June 09, 2014, 02:38:34 PM
I heard Pat for the first time in a couple of years yesterday but the record hasn't changed at all. After the Mayo game "Blanket defence............. too much handpassing................I think we've found a cure for insomnia" etc. Still not analysing the game, just listing all the reasons he didn't enjoy it. He enjoyed the Dublin game though, so that's good to know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 09, 2014, 02:42:49 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 09, 2014, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on June 09, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Carney stutters, trips  and farts his way through the commentary of a game.
Not only is his voice like an oul dolls but he constantly gets names wrong as well as basic detail.
I don't think he can see half the action to be honest. Its downright inaccurate half the time.
He has awful habit of trying to explain a piece of action that happened 10seconds ago whilst the play continues.
Too slow to keep up with the play.

Whelan and O'Se are decent (moreso O'Se). Whelan is a big fluffy dog and wont say anything too controversial or forthright.
Id like to see O'Se have a go at Joe some day on one of the live games.
Joe was particularly fidgety this week in the chair.

Is the aim to be controversial or to analyse the games??

I hear you..but what I meant was that when it comes to getting off the fence on some issues you can bet that the former players as pundits wont speak honest and forthright. They will avoid answering the difficult questions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 09, 2014, 03:19:16 PM
Remember that scene from Fr. Ted discussing how black priests' socks were?

I get reminded of it every time I see Dessie Cahill's hair.

Can't take him seriously at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 09, 2014, 03:52:41 PM
I sat through it yesterday afternoon against my better judgement - I was sorry afterwards.

The 'analysis' could have been about anything - Tulsk mart, the price of cabbage, the economics of Montenegro - it certainly didn't appear (to me) to be related to what I'd just watched (in the Mayo-Roscommon game anyway).  All the gombeens wanted to do was disagree with each other - I could have gone to my local to see that (but I suppose I'd have had to pay for drink to spectate).  The 'content' of their discussion was pitiful, they cut across each other continually - they bickered over their right to have their nonsense heard (in preference to the alternative nonsense).  And then the smallest clown had a problem with his 'perception' that the Mayo team had a bad attitude to his (Derry) team in a recent encounter and all Mayo people were therefore arrogant - I pinched myself and found that I was still awake and breathing, so I turned on the golf. 

And they were laughing at how Sky might 'handle' the complexities of gaelic games ...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 09, 2014, 04:15:52 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 10:44:58 AM
Brolly and O'Rourke are fine together but Spillane just bugs me at this stage.
Every comment seems like it's sole purpose is to set-up some ham-fisted 'controversial' soundbite.
The awkward tension between himself and Joe makes for uncomfortable viewing too.
Spillane just repeats the same points every Sunday, over and over and over.......
That wasn't the annoying part, the annoying part was that Brolly hadn't the courtesy to let him talk, finish his point and offer his retort when called upon. Not only that, but while Spillane was talking, Brolly was acting the maggot in a blatantly disrespectful way, making mocking gestures with hands, with his face and his persistent add-on comments. The sort of thing you'd expect from a Max Clifford character.

The sad part was that Brolly actually had the most sensible point of all 3, he knew it, just couldn't restrain himself and was the author of turning the pundit review into an embarrassing shambles.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on June 09, 2014, 04:25:31 PM
The terrible trio need to be moved to a Monday night review show where they can argue until they are blue in the face (Spillane has an advantage with his rosy cheeks).

RTE should move on with their match-day programming and get more of the younger analysts on board. Sick of hearing them same thing every week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cockahoop on June 09, 2014, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

exactly what i was thinking,i think he is very good,joe has lost all run of himself even though he makes very good points,example yesterday where he said mayo were cocky and to confident but how he put it across its dificult to take seriously.spillane is spillane and will never change
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 09, 2014, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 01:11:58 PM
I can't be sure but I reckon Tomás thinks Dublin have an unfair advantage playing all their games in Croke Park.

Whelan mentioned that it happened a couple of times to them in Croker, I coulda sworn that wasn't their home ground!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 10, 2014, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

Fcuk sake lads. I said it before. Brolly and Spillane bring in the viewers. Colm is the sensible voice..it's the national broadcaster. They will maximise viewing figures  at all costs.....and who better to do it than Pat the Bollix And Joe. They are playing a smart game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AFS on June 10, 2014, 12:48:29 AM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 10, 2014, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

Fcuk sake lads. I said it before. Brolly and Spillane bring in the viewers. Colm is the sensible voice..it's the national broadcaster. They will maximise viewing figures  at all costs.....and who better to do it than Pat the Bollix And Joe. They are playing a smart game.

The football brings in the viewers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Crete Boom on June 10, 2014, 01:09:51 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

I like O'Rourke and I reckon along side somebody like Tomas O Shea he would have a lot more proper insight of what was actually happening in a game and would have no bother breaking down/explaining game stats like those presented on sky on Sat night.

The reason he doesn't bother is he is stuck in a perpetual comedy show although I don't think the two comedians alongside him have realised this. If was forced to sit through that every Sunday I wouldn't bother my shite trying to be serious either and would do my best to wind up the two performing clowns beside me. ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 10, 2014, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 10, 2014, 01:09:51 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

I like O'Rourke and I reckon along side somebody like Tomas O Shea he would have a lot more proper insight of what was actually happening in a game and would have no bother breaking down/explaining game stats like those presented on sky on Sat night.

The reason he doesn't bother is he is stuck in a perpetual comedy show although I don't think the two comedians alongside him have realised this. If was forced to sit through that every Sunday I wouldn't bother my shite trying to be serious either and would do my best to wind up the two performing clowns beside me. ;D

O'Rourke only looks good because he's with the other two. Put him beside a decent analyst and he becomes the Pat / Joe character
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 08:52:26 AM
Colm O'Rourke knows his football. His articles are very good. He has a long and successful history in football. I like his analysis. I enjoy Joe's analysis too. And Pat is well, Pat.

All in all I think RTE have a good blend and it works for them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 10, 2014, 09:21:21 AM
Really? I think it's awful at this stage. A studio debate can be both entertaining and informative but Brolly and Spillane are like two school kids who don't like each other and will argue over anything. I don't think I've ever heard Pat say something that above bog basic and he hasn't had an original point in over 10 years. Colm and brolly are at least capable of interesting points though putting the three together is just car crash stuff. When there are young guys like McGinley, mcconnville etc. it's bizarre they don't freshen it up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 09:23:59 AM
It's terrible. Cringeworthy tv. They'd be best get rid of the 3 of them. 

I can maybe understand why they keep Brolly but there's no reason why they should keep Spillane. If Brolly had someone compteent beside him MAYBE he'd stop just patronising people. That's a big maybe though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 10, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

What exactly does O'Rourke offer? He's like an aul granddad in the corner that you have to give a nudge every while to make sure he's still breathing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orior on June 10, 2014, 09:37:03 AM
Quote from: Zulu on June 10, 2014, 09:21:21 AM
Really? I think it's awful at this stage. A studio debate can be both entertaining and informative but Brolly and Spillane are like two school kids who don't like each other and will argue over anything. I don't think I've ever heard Pat say something that above bog basic and he hasn't had an original point in over 10 years. Colm and brolly are at least capable of interesting points though putting the three together is just car crash stuff. When there are young guys like McGinley, mcconnville etc. it's bizarre they don't freshen it up.

Not those two. Enda McNulty is streets ahead of both.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 10, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
whether you like Joe Trolly or loathe him is much of a muchness, until he ultimately goes too far in some regard he pulls in more viewers than he alienates, is arguably one of the most creatively provocative and high profile sports figures in Ireland, pulls in the viewing figures and that's that.

Don't understand why O'Rourke gets lumped in by association with the other 2. If he wasn't there it would be worse.

Spillane functioning neither as the insightful, analytical pundit or as the shock jock - sounds very stale and tired and must be the pick of the 3 for a change up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 09:48:23 AM
I just don't watch the half time analysis on RTE any more. I find it is good for my Zen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 10, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
whether you like Joe Trolly or loathe him is much of a muchness, until he ultimately goes too far in some regard he pulls in more viewers than he alienates, is arguably one of the most creatively provocative and high profile sports figures in Ireland, pulls in the viewing figures and that's that.

Don't understand why O'Rourke gets lumped in by association with the other 2. If he wasn't there it would be worse.

Spillane functioning neither as the insightful, analytical pundit or as the shock jock - sounds very stale and tired and must be the pick of the 3 for a change up.

Does he really pull in more viewers than he alienates though? I find most people you talk to turn it over or on mute at half time. It would be hard to know as if you want to watch the matches it's the only channel to watch so no one will ever be able to quantify!

There's being provocative and there's being a d**k and Joe moved over that line a while ago.

However in saying that I think Pat should go and they should build from there.

I used to sky plus sunday game and only watch the highlights and not listen to the punditry but O'Se etc more interesting now but half time, sunday aside when I wasn't in my own house, is a no no.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 10, 2014, 10:00:12 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 09:48:23 AM
I just don't watch the half time analysis on RTE any more. I find it is good for my Zen.

And God knows you need all the zen you can get at the moment.  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 10, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 10, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

What exactly does O'Rourke offer? He's like an aul granddad in the corner that you have to give a nudge every while to make sure he's still breathing.

Have manners you pup.
That's one of the top 5 Meathmen of all time you're talking about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
Is Mr. Tayto one of the other 4?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:06:36 AM
It's entertainment. Some people like it. Some don't. That's just the way of it. Dunphy divides opinion but a lot look forward to hearing him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:06:36 AM
It's entertainment. Some people like it. Some don't. That's just the way of it. Dunphy divides opinion but a lot look forward to hearing him.

But do they? How 'popular' is Joe Brolly the TV analyst. Joe Brolly the man seems to be a sound chap by all accounts, but how many people listen to his analysis on the live games, and how many are actively turned off by his theatrics? I'm one of the latter certainly. Maybe I should add a poll.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 10, 2014, 10:13:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
Is Mr. Tayto one of the other 4?

Mr Tayto, Seán Boylan, Noel V. Ginnity and St. Oliver Plunkett are the other 4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:06:36 AM
It's entertainment. Some people like it. Some don't. That's just the way of it. Dunphy divides opinion but a lot look forward to hearing him.

But do they? How 'popular' is Joe Brolly the TV analyst. Joe Brolly the man seems to be a sound chap by all accounts, but how many people listen to his analysis on the live games, and how many are actively turned off by his theatrics? I'm one of the latter certainly. Maybe I should add a poll.

People I talk to love him for what he might come out with - maybe there's a bit of a northern southern thing going on as well ?

Sure put up a poll and see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
If this is a Northern Southern thing then I'd be disappointed. Because that means our Northern members like someone who personally attacks players and managers of our games. I don't see that as an acceptable form of 'analysis' and if that's because I'm based in the South, then I think that's a sad state of affairs.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
Ok Joe does go OTT at times but he is a good reader and he's not bland or boring. He usually is prepared to tell it the way it is, warts and all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: supersarsfields on June 10, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
I wouldn't say It's a north V south thing. The problem with Joe is that he always has to have a hook that he'll labour on rather than dealing with the analysis of the game as he should. He always trys to revert any discussion back to this point throughout his analysis in an attempt to show that he was right all along. It's got boring now.
I actually Like JB, but just find him hard to listen to as an Analyst.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 10, 2014, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
Ok Joe does go OTT at times but he is a good reader and he's not bland or boring. He usually is prepared to tell it the way it is, warts and all.

But that's the point. He doesn't tell it 'The way it is'. He tells it the way he thinks will generate most publicity/controversy. Whether he does that out of divilment or out of a sense of self promotion is a moot point, but the effect is that he is hyperbolic, insulting and ignorant in his studio behaviour. The fact that he changes his opinion and his favourite hobby horse more often than some people change their clothes is just the cherry on top.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
Exactly - always a personal slant on things and not an objective analysis. He doesn't like Mayo, he loved the way Tyrone played for a while but doesn't like them now, he's not a fan of Cavanagh etc etc. All personal things. How can he objectively analyse a Mayo game when he quite clearly dislikes them? Also the dubs can do no wrong. I'm not sure where he sits with Donegal or Cork at present but he'll decide after a game or two whether he likes them or not and no matter what positive or negative they do after that it won't matter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J OGorman on June 10, 2014, 11:17:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
Exactly - always a personal slant on things and not an objective analysis. He doesn't like Mayo, he loved the way Tyrone played for a while but doesn't like them now, he's not a fan of Cavanagh etc etc. All personal things. How can he objectively analyse a Mayo game when he quite clearly dislikes them? Also the dubs can do no wrong. I'm not sure where he sits with Donegal or Cork at present but he'll decide after a game or two whether he likes them or not and no matter what positive or negative they do after that it won't matter.

Is that not what we all do though? Liking another team for me, is very much based on the way they play and how they conduct themselves. It changes...eg Donegal, I'm from Donegal stock, bar myself, all my family live in Donegal, but presently I'd have nothing to do with them. Tyrone, no chance usually but I was behind them in the 2008 final as I thought they played unreal football (still feel dirty though). I've always had a soft spot for Mayo, but if they set up next year like Donegal, well, ye know the craic. How could anyone who loves the game not enjoy Dublin at the minute? All out attack, whats not to love about that?
Joe is a fan of the football counties play, not the county itself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2014, 11:19:45 AM
Why can't they just tell us why team A won and team B lost, what tactics were used etc and leave it at that.
Also more action and less waffle all round please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
We're not paid to analyse games though....

I actually don't share the same disdain for Donegal a lot seem to. When they're going well the speed they break with is a joy to watch. When they're not however...



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 10, 2014, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 10, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
Ok Joe does go OTT at times but he is a good reader and he's not bland or boring. He usually is prepared to tell it the way it is, warts and all.
Goes OTT at times?  going OTT at times this last Sunday covers a lot, including being openly rude and disrespectful, making mocking clownish gestures with his face and hands while another pundit is speaking. He has no restraint and no self discipline.
OTT for Joe is cringeworthy and an embarrassment for GAA tv coverage.
How is that sort of behaviour regarded as entertainment?
I just want to listen to their views on the game regardless if I agree with them or not, apart from having a hidden desire that Spillane  will one day deck Joe with a few face slaps.

Possibly Joe has been nerve damaged, he has no boundaries,  not unlike a serious enough ADHD-H condition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Billys Boots on June 10, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 10, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 10, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

What exactly does O'Rourke offer? He's like an aul granddad in the corner that you have to give a nudge every while to make sure he's still breathing.

Have manners you pup.
That's one of the top 5 Meathmen of all time you're talking about.

Except he's from Leitrim.  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 10, 2014, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on June 10, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 10, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 10, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

What exactly does O'Rourke offer? He's like an aul granddad in the corner that you have to give a nudge every while to make sure he's still breathing.

Have manners you pup.
That's one of the top 5 Meathmen of all time you're talking about.

Except he's from Leitrim.  ::)

And Sir Bob Geldof is from Dublin.
(Colm is from Skryne for football purposes.)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 10, 2014, 12:49:59 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 10, 2014, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on June 10, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 10, 2014, 10:01:27 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 10, 2014, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 09, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Why is Colm always lumped in with the other two?
They should keep him as senior analyst and get some young lad alongside him who knows how to work an iPad.

What exactly does O'Rourke offer? He's like an aul granddad in the corner that you have to give a nudge every while to make sure he's still breathing.

Have manners you pup.
That's one of the top 5 Meathmen of all time you're talking about.

Except he's from Leitrim.  ::)

And Sir Bob Geldof is from Dublin.
(Colm is from Skryne for football purposes.)

Yes and Mayo needed to 'own' points from a Rossie to win on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
As for The Sunday Game on a Sunday night, can RTE do something about Des Cahill ?? Good god!!!!
Described Brendan Cummings as "bodacious " !!!!!! Dunno what he said about loughnane cos I fell over laughing and then described something with O Se and whelan as "shaq a lack a boom boom"

Come on RTE !!!! It's getting embarrassing.....

Maybe he has them over a barrel for the hair dye and fake tan!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 10, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
whether you like Joe Trolly or loathe him is much of a muchness, until he ultimately goes too far in some regard he pulls in more viewers than he alienates, is arguably one of the most creatively provocative and high profile sports figures in Ireland, pulls in the viewing figures and that's that.

Don't understand why O'Rourke gets lumped in by association with the other 2. If he wasn't there it would be worse.

Spillane functioning neither as the insightful, analytical pundit or as the shock jock - sounds very stale and tired and must be the pick of the 3 for a change up.

Who are these people who aren't interested in watching the match but tune in to watch Joe Brolly's analysis? Do they really exist?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 10, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
As for The Sunday Game on a Sunday night, can RTE do something about Des Cahill ?? Good god!!!!
Described Brendan Cummings as "bodacious " !!!!!! Dunno what he said about loughnane cos I fell over laughing and then described something with O Se and whelan as "shaq a lack a boom boom"

Come on RTE !!!! It's getting embarrassing.....

Maybe he has them over a barrel for the hair dye and fake tan!

http://www.livegaelic.com/craic/vines-des-cahills-legendary-word-challenge-epic/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 10, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
As for The Sunday Game on a Sunday night, can RTE do something about Des Cahill ?? Good god!!!!
Described Brendan Cummings as "bodacious " !!!!!! Dunno what he said about loughnane cos I fell over laughing and then described something with O Se and whelan as "shaq a lack a boom boom"

Come on RTE !!!! It's getting embarrassing.....

Maybe he has them over a barrel for the hair dye and fake tan!

http://www.livegaelic.com/craic/vines-des-cahills-legendary-word-challenge-epic/



Mmmmm, maybe Understated, professional, and host ( not star! ) could be used next week...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 09:18:43 PM
Oh and thanks 5Sams.. Was wondering why..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on June 10, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 10, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
As for The Sunday Game on a Sunday night, can RTE do something about Des Cahill ?? Good god!!!!
Described Brendan Cummings as "bodacious " !!!!!! Dunno what he said about loughnane cos I fell over laughing and then described something with O Se and whelan as "shaq a lack a boom boom"

Come on RTE !!!! It's getting embarrassing.....

Maybe he has them over a barrel for the hair dye and fake tan!

http://www.livegaelic.com/craic/vines-des-cahills-legendary-word-challenge-epic/



Mmmmm, maybe Understated, professional, and host ( not star! ) could be used next week...

If this is how they are taking on Sky god help them. Cahill is a gormless plank.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 10, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 09:17:39 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 10, 2014, 08:54:09 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 10, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
As for The Sunday Game on a Sunday night, can RTE do something about Des Cahill ?? Good god!!!!
Described Brendan Cummings as "bodacious " !!!!!! Dunno what he said about loughnane cos I fell over laughing and then described something with O Se and whelan as "shaq a lack a boom boom"

Come on RTE !!!! It's getting embarrassing.....

Maybe he has them over a barrel for the hair dye and fake tan!

http://www.livegaelic.com/craic/vines-des-cahills-legendary-word-challenge-epic/



Mmmmm, maybe Understated, professional, and host ( not star! ) could be used next week...

If this is how they are taking on Sky god help them. Cahill is a gormless plank.

Ffs, this is just embarrassing. The Sunday Game is not a vehicle for this clown to try and show how funny he is. In my opinion he should be booted off for showing such a lack of professionalism.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 10, 2014, 10:14:16 PM
The last two posts cover what I wanted to say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 10, 2014, 10:19:27 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 10, 2014, 10:14:16 PM
The last two posts cover what I wanted to say.

Bodacious, as they say in RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Of all the things ye could attack Des Cahill for, and there are many, this is the most petty. You'd have to be some tool to call for someone's job over this.

Haven't a problem with it at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Of all the things ye could attack Des Cahill for, and there are many, this is the most petty. You'd have to be some tool to call for someone's job over this.

Haven't a problem with it at all.

What's the point of it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Of all the things ye could attack Des Cahill for, and there are many, this is the most petty. You'd have to be some tool to call for someone's job over this.

Haven't a problem with it at all.

What's the point of it?

What's the point of kicking a piece of leather around a patch of grass?

What sort of question is 'what's the point'? A pointless one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Of all the things ye could attack Des Cahill for, and there are many, this is the most petty. You'd have to be some tool to call for someone's job over this.

Haven't a problem with it at all.

What's the point of it?

What's the point of kicking a piece of leather around a patch of grass?

What sort of question is 'what's the point'? A pointless one.

Why is he doing it? A genuine question!

9 people replied to his twitter request for words - 9 people and he feels it is appropriate to use a serious football discussion programme for this little private game. Is it for charity or something?

If Rachel Wyse tried this on Saturday there would be lads here with the pitch forks out, never mind suggesting she should be taken to task for her lack of professionalism. But sure it's deadly craic altogether, I suppose and us Irish love this craic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 11, 2014, 12:38:54 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: whiskeysteve on June 10, 2014, 09:42:24 AM
whether you like Joe Trolly or loathe him is much of a muchness, until he ultimately goes too far in some regard he pulls in more viewers than he alienates, is arguably one of the most creatively provocative and high profile sports figures in Ireland, pulls in the viewing figures and that's that.

Don't understand why O'Rourke gets lumped in by association with the other 2. If he wasn't there it would be worse.

Spillane functioning neither as the insightful, analytical pundit or as the shock jock - sounds very stale and tired and must be the pick of the 3 for a change up.

Who are these people who aren't interested in watching the match but tune in to watch Joe Brolly's analysis? Do they really exist?

It brings to mind this bit of dialogue from the film 'Private Parts' about the shock-jock Howard Stern.

Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.

Pig Vomit: How can that be?

Researcher: Answer most commonly given? "I want to see what he'll say next."

Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?

Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.

Pig Vomit: But... if they hate him, why do they listen?

Researcher: Most common answer? "I want to see what he'll say next."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 11, 2014, 12:46:27 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 11:01:47 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:52:06 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 10, 2014, 10:48:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 10, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Of all the things ye could attack Des Cahill for, and there are many, this is the most petty. You'd have to be some tool to call for someone's job over this.

Haven't a problem with it at all.

What's the point of it?

What's the point of kicking a piece of leather around a patch of grass?

What sort of question is 'what's the point'? A pointless one.

Why is he doing it? A genuine question!

9 people replied to his twitter request for words - 9 people and he feels it is appropriate to use a serious football discussion programme for this little private game. Is it for charity or something?

If Rachel Wyse tried this on Saturday there would be lads here with the pitch forks out, never mind suggesting she should be taken to task for her lack of professionalism. But sure it's deadly craic altogether, I suppose and us Irish love this craic.
Des is one kerazy guy. It won't be there on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2014, 02:37:08 PM
Who are the 2 commentators today?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 02:39:09 PM
Tom Carr is the co-commentator anyway and doing his usual bang up job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2014, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2014, 02:37:08 PM
Who are the 2 commentators today?

Don't you know Tommy Carr when you hear him Farr? The play-by-play commentator is one of the b-team commentators, probably getting the match because of the World Cup, dunno his name.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 02:53:57 PM
He's actually far better than Morrissey and Canning.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 15, 2014, 02:56:07 PM
Spillane & Brolly have spent the half-time talking about Donegal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 15, 2014, 02:58:09 PM
And the saviours of football the Dubs get a mention too. I think I could write the script for any RTE half time analysis a couple of weeks before the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inexile on June 15, 2014, 02:58:41 PM
It's all down to paralysis by Analysis according to the bould Pat. At least he got a chance to mention the Dubs
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
Watching analysis on BBC as I can't watch those boys anymore if I have an alternative. Canavan and McConville have been decent if not overly informative today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 15, 2014, 03:24:24 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
Watching analysis on BBC as I can't watch those boys anymore if I have an alternative. Canavan and McConville have been decent if not overly informative today.

Same as Zulu . Any more when i do have to watch the match on rte i just won't watch the analysis. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 03:32:07 PM
Looking forward to Brolly's rant about Darren Hughes' tackle there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
Brolly is an embarrassment!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 15, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
Brolly is an embarrassment!

He is, but not for what he said about Cavanagh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 15, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
Love Brolly! What a guy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 15, 2014, 03:58:07 PM
Hardly worth Brolly/Spillane being in Thurles today. Massive rush to get onto the hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 15, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
Watching analysis on BBC as I can't watch those boys anymore if I have an alternative. Canavan and McConville have been decent if not overly informative today.
They were relaxed, knowledgeable, able to talk uninterrupted about the game and McHugh was not there. The  trivial matter of them not being overly informative,  pales into insignificance. And you'd have to concede, Oisin got it spot on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2014, 04:32:44 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 15, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 03:38:40 PM
Brolly is an embarrassment!

He is, but not for what he said about Cavanagh.
+1
Was delighted to hear both Brolly and Spillane highlight Cavanagh's poor sportsmanship; you would have thought that at this stage he'd be too embarrassed to continue with his diving and getting men sent off!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 04:34:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 15, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
Watching analysis on BBC as I can't watch those boys anymore if I have an alternative. Canavan and McConville have been decent if not overly informative today.
They were relaxed, knowledgeable, able to talk uninterrupted about the game and McHugh was not there. The  trivial matter of them not being overly informative,  pales into insignificance. And you'd have to concede, Oisin got it spot on.

I agree, I just meant that normally Canavan and McConville have some interesting insights on the game but I thought today they didn't. Still far better than RTE, who have become a joke.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
Am about fucked off with all this swan lake diving shite from players, its outright cheating and too many of these players think they are playing in the premiership,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
The match commentary on RTE today was really poor; couldn't figure out who was with Tommy Carr, but he was bad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
I don't think I've seen pictures from the crowd as much as I have during today's match! Even when the ball was in play they kept it on them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 15, 2014, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
Am about fucked off with all this swan lake diving shite from players, its outright cheating and too many of these players think they are playing in the premiership,
I totally agree, but when it's Tyrone, unfortunately you have to match their cynicism in order to prevail, therefore I give all Monaghan diving a free pass.
It's a moral imperative to defeat Tyrone by any means, there are no marquess of queensberry rules which apply here.
I mean,  if you met Penrose in the street, would you extend your hand?




Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 15, 2014, 04:51:42 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 15, 2014, 04:38:23 PM
The match commentary on RTE today was really poor; couldn't figure out who was with Tommy Carr, but he was bad.

He actually made Tommy Carr sound good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 04:54:42 PM
Agree, I thought he was fine. Now Tommy, that's a different story...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
Brolly's claim of diving is self serving and for maximum impact. He can't make a statement like that without showing evidence of what he is saying and justifying what is, a big, big accusation to make on live TV. Now we have every man jack in Ireland repeating it in parrot fashion without actually looking at the incidents. How anyone with a rational mind can claim he dived when Mone tackled him round the neck or when Hughes pulled him down is strange to me and their view must be tainted with anti Tyrone glasses. I'll admit the last free was perhaps dubious enough but the first defender had his arms round Sean's hips before Dick joined in. The free may or may not have been given but it does not warrant another personal attack by someone who knows exactly what he is doing. Cue the phone call later in the week to apologise for his manliness comment and everyone saying what a great fella Joe is for apologising.

One other point, Joe realises that "his" black card rule is a complete shambles and is now turning his attention to criticising the player in possession for diving. This the very problem many people said would happen with the black card.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 15, 2014, 04:59:27 PM
Dry up Benny. Moane caught him high but was more a drag to upper shoulder/neck, not a firm strike.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:01:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 15, 2014, 04:59:27 PM
Dry up Benny. Moane caught him high but was more a drag to upper shoulder/neck, not a firm strike.

So no other player in Ireland would have went down under that tackle then?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 15, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
They would have went down but the crying match and staying down is what annoys the neutrals.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
Brolly's claim of diving is self serving and for maximum impact. He can't make a statement like that without showing evidence of what he is saying and justifying what is, a big, big accusation to make on live TV. Now we have every man jack in Ireland repeating it in parrot fashion without actually looking at the incidents. How anyone with a rational mind can claim he dived when Mone tackled him round the neck or when Hughes pulled him down is strange to me and their view must be tainted with anti Tyrone glasses. I'll admit the last free was perhaps dubious enough but the first defender had his arms round Sean's hips before Dick joined in. The free may or may not have been given but it does not warrant another personal attack by someone who knows exactly what he is doing. Cue the phone call later in the week to apologise for his manliness comment and everyone saying what a great fella Joe is for apologising.

One other point, Joe realises that "his" black card rule is a complete shambles and is now turning his attention to criticising the player in possession for diving. This the very problem many people said would happen with the black card.

Ah Benny Cavanagh clearly grabbed Hughes arm and pulled him down on top of himself, no way was it a black card and it was a definite dive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 15, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
They would have went down but the crying match and staying down is what annoys the neutrals.

So it's not diving then? What he does afterwards is not what Brolly was arguing about. His point was that Sean went to ground every time he went into a tackle causing two black cards and a yellow. Whatever you reckon he did after the foul is irrelevant to the point I'm making.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 15, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
Its diving and whinging which makes him even less likable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:19:03 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
Brolly's claim of diving is self serving and for maximum impact. He can't make a statement like that without showing evidence of what he is saying and justifying what is, a big, big accusation to make on live TV. Now we have every man jack in Ireland repeating it in parrot fashion without actually looking at the incidents. How anyone with a rational mind can claim he dived when Mone tackled him round the neck or when Hughes pulled him down is strange to me and their view must be tainted with anti Tyrone glasses. I'll admit the last free was perhaps dubious enough but the first defender had his arms round Sean's hips before Dick joined in. The free may or may not have been given but it does not warrant another personal attack by someone who knows exactly what he is doing. Cue the phone call later in the week to apologise for his manliness comment and everyone saying what a great fella Joe is for apologising.

One other point, Joe realises that "his" black card rule is a complete shambles and is now turning his attention to criticising the player in possession for diving. This the very problem many people said would happen with the black card.

Ah Benny Cavanagh clearly grabbed Hughes arm and pulled him down on top of himself, no way was it a black card and it was a definite dive.

Tommy Carr and the referee both thought it was a definite black card. Hughes arm was over Sean's shoulder and he forced his weight on top of him. Carr said he took one for the team. Either the black is virtually impossible to implement or it was a black card.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
If Tommy Carr said it was a black card then it definitely wasn't. Tom getting it wrong is like gravity, an indisputable law of physics! It was a definite pull down by Sean, despite what Tom might have said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2014, 05:30:27 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
If Tommy Carr said it was a black card then it definitely wasn't. Tom getting it wrong is like gravity, an indisputable law of physics! It was a definite pull down by Sean, despite what Tom might have said.

Sean Cavanagh should have received a black card for pulling Hughes down... Hughes was going for the ball as he was last year when Cavanagh cheated him again. He has no class!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
If Tommy Carr said it was a black card then it definitely wasn't. Tom getting it wrong is like gravity, an indisputable law of physics! It was a definite pull down by Sean, despite what Tom might have said.

To be fair - Tommy Carr would not be my first choice for presenting evidence in defence of my argument but he is an experienced football man (Who I'd imagine has much more experience of the game at the top level than either you or me) and if he was 100% sure that the incident deserved a black card then you cannot say for 100% accuracy that it wasn't. Either way, it shows what a complete balls the black card is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 15, 2014, 05:53:33 PM
Benny, I called it as a dive on here. Check my post and timing, written before Brolly said anything. As for Tommy Carr, having listened to him all through the match its obvious he hasn't a clue what's in the new rules ( or the old rules either). Cavansgh is a very talented player but he is a doing this stuff every match.

What was Harte crying about to the ref at end of match?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
If Tommy Carr said it was a black card then it definitely wasn't. Tom getting it wrong is like gravity, an indisputable law of physics! It was a definite pull down by Sean, despite what Tom might have said.

To be fair - Tommy Carr would not be my first choice for presenting evidence in defence of my argument but he is an experienced football man (Who I'd imagine has much more experience of the game at the top level than either you or me) and if he was 100% sure that the incident deserved a black card then you cannot say for 100% accuracy that it wasn't. Either way, it shows what a complete balls the black card is.

He probably has Benny but a French man could see what Canavagh did and he pulled the hand in and dived.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 15, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
If Tommy Carr said it was a black card then it definitely wasn't. Tom getting it wrong is like gravity, an indisputable law of physics! It was a definite pull down by Sean, despite what Tom might have said.

To be fair - Tommy Carr would not be my first choice for presenting evidence in defence of my argument but he is an experienced football man (Who I'd imagine has much more experience of the game at the top level than either you or me) and if he was 100% sure that the incident deserved a black card then you cannot say for 100% accuracy that it wasn't. Either way, it shows what a complete balls the black card is.

He probably has Benny but a French man could see what Canavagh did and he pulled the hand in and dived.

+1

Saw a bit of Canavan after the match and he as much as said the whole County took the win for granted as well as some of the team and they'd need a long hard look at themselves.

Long and short of it was Monaghan's best forward got injured before HT, they started with a half fit forward and another of their top forwards was on the bench and they should still have won comfortably. How many were Tyrone really missing today? They're a long way off!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:21:50 PM
If Tommy Carr said it was a black card then it definitely wasn't. Tom getting it wrong is like gravity, an indisputable law of physics! It was a definite pull down by Sean, despite what Tom might have said.

To be fair - Tommy Carr would not be my first choice for presenting evidence in defence of my argument but he is an experienced football man (Who I'd imagine has much more experience of the game at the top level than either you or me) and if he was 100% sure that the incident deserved a black card then you cannot say for 100% accuracy that it wasn't. Either way, it shows what a complete balls the black card is.

He probably has Benny but a French man could see what Canavagh did and he pulled the hand in and dived.

Maybe more of the Sky money needs to be diverted to the development of the GAA in France then!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 15, 2014, 11:57:25 PM
Okay, somebody needs to get hold of Des Cahill and tell him that this wordplay thing he's doing is cringe inducing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 16, 2014, 12:01:32 AM
Thought Whelan was decent tonight. Seems to have a better grasp of the rules than many pundits and commentators, particularly his analysis of injury time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 16, 2014, 12:45:00 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 15, 2014, 11:57:25 PM
Okay, somebody needs to get hold of Des Cahill and tell him that this wordplay thing he's doing is cringe inducing.

What was that word he used tonight ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 16, 2014, 08:35:29 AM
Quote from: Zulu on June 15, 2014, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 15, 2014, 04:56:47 PM
Brolly's claim of diving is self serving and for maximum impact. He can't make a statement like that without showing evidence of what he is saying and justifying what is, a big, big accusation to make on live TV. Now we have every man jack in Ireland repeating it in parrot fashion without actually looking at the incidents. How anyone with a rational mind can claim he dived when Mone tackled him round the neck or when Hughes pulled him down is strange to me and their view must be tainted with anti Tyrone glasses. I'll admit the last free was perhaps dubious enough but the first defender had his arms round Sean's hips before Dick joined in. The free may or may not have been given but it does not warrant another personal attack by someone who knows exactly what he is doing. Cue the phone call later in the week to apologise for his manliness comment and everyone saying what a great fella Joe is for apologising.

One other point, Joe realises that "his" black card rule is a complete shambles and is now turning his attention to criticising the player in possession for diving. This the very problem many people said would happen with the black card.

Ah Benny Cavanagh clearly grabbed Hughes arm and pulled him down on top of himself, no way was it a black card and it was a definite dive.

I'm in favour of the black card, but this is the one thing that I said from the start would worry me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 16, 2014, 09:32:45 AM
Quote from: orangeman on June 16, 2014, 12:45:00 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 15, 2014, 11:57:25 PM
Okay, somebody needs to get hold of Des Cahill and tell him that this wordplay thing he's doing is cringe inducing.

What was that word he used tonight ?

'Scrumdiddlyumptious'.
Seriously.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2014, 10:25:43 AM
how does Des get these words again, Twitter is it?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 16, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
It's kind of bizarre. Does a charity gain money out of it or anything? Basically he asks his followers on Twitter to nominate a word, and he picks the "best" one to work into that night's show. Weird stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on June 16, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
Seen Big Des in Dublin going up the street, great fella. Yet is it just me or is no one alarmed by the fake tan and hair dye? I could be mistaken
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 16, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
It's kind of bizarre. Does a charity gain money out of it or anything? Basically he asks his followers on Twitter to nominate a word, and he picks the "best" one to work into that night's show. Weird stuff.

I'm not on twitter, but I might register and send him a few choice ones as its an embarrassment at this stage. You'd think the shows producer would have a word in his shell like.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 16, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 16, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
It's kind of bizarre. Does a charity gain money out of it or anything? Basically he asks his followers on Twitter to nominate a word, and he picks the "best" one to work into that night's show. Weird stuff.

He doesnt even really work it in - last week he just said something like, "Gavin looked at his bench and thought shakalakaboomboom"!! I thought it must be for charity but if not it shows an astonishing lack of professionalism and is very David Brentish.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 16, 2014, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 16, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 16, 2014, 10:30:09 AM
It's kind of bizarre. Does a charity gain money out of it or anything? Basically he asks his followers on Twitter to nominate a word, and he picks the "best" one to work into that night's show. Weird stuff.

He doesnt even really work it in - last week he just said something like, "Gavin looked at his bench and thought shakalakaboomboom"!! I thought it must be for charity but if not it shows an astonishing lack of professionalism and is very David Brentish.

Not really it's exploiting the social media to get more viewers... "Oh I must check the Sunday Game tonight to see if he said my word".

It's slightly annoying but I wouldn't be getting too bent out of shape about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on June 16, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 16, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
Seen Big Des in Dublin going up the street, great fella. Yet is it just me or is no one alarmed by the fake tan and hair dye? I could be mistaken

Have you never seen Marty Morrissey? It appears to be mandatory get up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 16, 2014, 12:45:56 PM
Ballbag. Say ballbag Marty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on June 16, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Sadly for the first time in my life - When Joe and Pat started after the Tyrone match I turned it over to listen to BBC coverage!

I use to be a big fan of the panel but now I think its pants!  :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 16, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 16, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Sadly for the first time in my life - When Joe and Pat started after the Tyrone match I turned it over to listen to BBC coverage!

I use to be a big fan of the panel but now I think its pants!  :(

You should tweet a word for Des - would that encourage you to go back?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 16, 2014, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 16, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 16, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Sadly for the first time in my life - When Joe and Pat started after the Tyrone match I turned it over to listen to BBC coverage!

I use to be a big fan of the panel but now I think its pants!  :(

You should tweet a word for Des - would that encourage you to go back?
i might tweet him the word 'analysis' to see if he can somehow work that into the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on June 16, 2014, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 16, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 16, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Sadly for the first time in my life - When Joe and Pat started after the Tyrone match I turned it over to listen to BBC coverage!

I use to be a big fan of the panel but now I think its pants!  :(

You should tweet a word for Des - would that encourage you to go back?

I don't get it??? Sorry! lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on June 16, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on June 16, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 16, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
Seen Big Des in Dublin going up the street, great fella. Yet is it just me or is no one alarmed by the fake tan and hair dye? I could be mistaken

Have you never seen Marty Morrissey? It appears to be mandatory get up.

Ahh Marty, now that fella knows how to apply the St Tropez. If it works for him, all I can say is fair play Marty, tip of the hat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 16, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
Its just one big pantomime with RTE really.  I dont watch their coverage any more. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: rrhf on June 16, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
Its just one big pantomime with RTE really.  I dont watch their coverage any more.

It really wouldn't take an awful lot to turn Marty and Des into pantomime dames the way their hair and tans are going at the minute;;

Des, see if you can use this word next Sunday night

#I'mastupidcunt

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2014, 04:49:19 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 16, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: rrhf on June 16, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
Its just one big pantomime with RTE really.  I dont watch their coverage any more.

It really wouldn't take an awful lot to turn Marty and Des into pantomime dames the way their hair and tans are going at the minute;;

Des, see if you can use this word next Sunday night

#I'mastupidcunt

There's no apostrophes in proper hashtags.

#totalnoob
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 16, 2014, 05:54:13 PM
I just don't watch the bloody night time programme any more.
GAA 2014 on TG4 and the Sky midweek show is where I look at highlights now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2014, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2014, 05:54:13 PM
I just don't watch the bloody night time programme any more.
GAA 2014 on TG4 and the Sky midweek show is where I look at highlights now.

Tomas O'Se and Whelan are probably the best analysts on TV.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
What exactly did Tohill say that got him the boot?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LeoMc on June 17, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
What exactly did Tohill say that got him the boot?
He probably hasn't time with the new Council job. If he has he is being overpaid for it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on June 17, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
What exactly did Tohill say that got him the boot?
He probably hasn't time with the new Council job. If he has he is being overpaid for it.

I was under the impression he said something on the show. I may be mistaken.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 17, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on June 17, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
What exactly did Tohill say that got him the boot?
He probably hasn't time with the new Council job. If he has he is being overpaid for it.

I was under the impression he said something on the show. I may be mistaken.

He analysed a game properly without personal attacks, bland generalisations and controversial remarks. Thats not acceptable on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 17, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on June 17, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
What exactly did Tohill say that got him the boot?
He probably hasn't time with the new Council job. If he has he is being overpaid for it.

I was under the impression he said something on the show. I may be mistaken.

He analysed a game properly without personal attacks, bland generalisations and controversial remarks. Thats not acceptable on RTE.

I would love to see Tony Scullion get a run out for a night on the Sunday Game. Now that would make for interesting viewing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whiskeysteve on June 17, 2014, 10:43:39 AM
+1

Tony Scullion would be an inspired choice, especially if he got revved up on the day ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sheamy on June 17, 2014, 10:45:34 AM
Inspired suggestion. That would be amazing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2014, 12:06:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2014, 07:35:03 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2014, 05:54:13 PM
I just don't watch the bloody night time programme any more.
GAA 2014 on TG4 and the Sky midweek show is where I look at highlights now.

Tomas O'Se and Whelan are probably the best analysts on TV.
I thought that pairing was very good, O'Shea gets a bit nervous at times, probably just a toxic effect of breathing in the fumes as Des' fake tan melts.
Overall they made their mark.
Though I wasn't impressed with the method of showing a montage of clips to support a claim that Tyrone have a cynical past (though that particular archive library must fill out a few warehouses). Whelan had already made the main point, that in the context of the last 20 years, 2 added time minutes was appropriate. There was no need to embellish his case to show that Tyrone had no cause for complaint as they were transgressors in the past.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 17, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
I agree o'se & whelan are generally very good , and much better than what we have become used to on TSG, but the' sure we have always made a balls of the timekeeping' & the 'sure mind the time tyrone wated time' excuses for sundays 2 added minutes were a bit weak
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 17, 2014, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 10:26:25 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 17, 2014, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 09:05:28 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on June 17, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
Quote from: DoireGael on June 17, 2014, 08:48:52 AM
What exactly did Tohill say that got him the boot?
He probably hasn't time with the new Council job. If he has he is being overpaid for it.

I was under the impression he said something on the show. I may be mistaken.

He analysed a game properly without personal attacks, bland generalisations and controversial remarks. Thats not acceptable on RTE.

I would love to see Tony Scullion get a run out for a night on the Sunday Game. Now that would make for interesting viewing.
Was he not behind the black card.  Who cares?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 16, 2014, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 16, 2014, 02:47:44 PM
Quote from: WT4E on June 16, 2014, 02:31:38 PM
Sadly for the first time in my life - When Joe and Pat started after the Tyrone match I turned it over to listen to BBC coverage!

I use to be a big fan of the panel but now I think its pants!  :(

You should tweet a word for Des - would that encourage you to go back?
i might tweet him the word 'analysis' to see if he can somehow work that into the show.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 21, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
Morrissey and Carr certainly don't enhance a game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on June 21, 2014, 04:06:46 PM
I hope Fermanagh win as Carr and Morrisey are so patronising about Fermanagh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on June 21, 2014, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 21, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
Morrissey and Carr certainly don't enhance a game.
It's a pretty dire game in fairness.
Laois are dung.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 21, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 21, 2014, 03:56:13 PM
Morrissey and Carr certainly don't enhance a game.

Its a wonder Fermanagh bothered to turn up so confident us Carr that they are going to be well bet. The fact that Fermanagh are winning and playing against a strong wind has escaped him. Utterly useless co commentator
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2014, 04:08:58 PM
How many times must the guy tell us fermanagh are poor.

By the sound of him you'd think they shouldn't be allowed on the same pitch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 21, 2014, 04:13:26 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on June 21, 2014, 04:06:46 PM
I hope Fermanagh win as Carr and Morrisey are so patronising about Fermanagh.

Morrissey's always patronising in my opinion. Just extra so today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 21, 2014, 04:19:20 PM
What chance would any team have with Carr as manager. He'd have you told the opposition are crap and not to worry about them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 21, 2014, 04:21:01 PM
Cyborg Pat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 21, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
f**k that was some hit!

Funny Carr acknowledged that too when one of his main arguments against the black card is the fact it takes the physicality out of the game!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 21, 2014, 04:54:47 PM
Big Quigleys some operator!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 21, 2014, 05:03:37 PM
According to Carr Fermanagh had not quality up front 10secs  after naming Quigley mom after scoring 2.7.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2014, 05:08:08 PM
Carr is as good at co commentary as robbie savage!

Quigley looks like he hasn't a care in the world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 21, 2014, 05:11:02 PM
Colm basically calling Sean Quigley a fat bastard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jimmyjimson on June 22, 2014, 12:13:18 AM
The Sunday Game crew have annoyed me for years now, but today, with my Fermanagh hat on, I thought the pundits were particularly dreadful.

I'd say the depth of their research on the Fermanagh team was a cursory glance at this year's league tables and a quick look at the Sunday Game's 5 minute highlights of the Antrim game. They'd no idea who any of the players were except for the 3 lads still around from 2004. Not one of them mentioned that Tomas Corrigan, who'd been arguably our best forward in the league was missing or that Johnny Woods, our best defender, had a broken jaw. Just simple stuff that would have taken a few minutes research but these were things that impacted heavily on Pete McGrath's gameplan. Mind you it seemed they knew little about the Laois players either except for the obvious ones like Munnelly, Kingston and Begley.

As for the commentary team, a poster above mentioned Morrissey's patronizing attitude towards Fermanagh. It's not just Fermanagh he does it to. The incredulous tone in his voice when he describes a player from a lower ranked team kicking a half decent score has been a bugbear of mine for manys a year.

You'd hope for a bit of analysis from the National broadcaster. They've lapsed into throwing out lazy cliches and sweeping generalizations. 'Fermanagh are playing a more traditional style under Pete McGrath'. How about giving us some examples of this ? compare how they set up against Cavan last year with how they played against Antrim maybe. Instead lets speak about how both Laois and Fermanagh were quite good in the mid noughties but not so much now. Spillane even got to throw in the old 'half of Fermanagh are Protestants and other half is under water' line.  At least he was relatively positive about us before the match though compared to his sidekick Chuckles O'Rourke.

Anyways, fair play to Laois. They got over the line even though they played badly for long patches and that should hold them in good stead for the future. As for Fermanagh, we've the McKenna Cup to look forward to in January.  :)


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on June 22, 2014, 01:26:40 AM
Watched the Sky presentation of the Sligo v Galway  game after and the difference from the Rte presentation to the sky one was startling.It was quite a shock to the system to see analysts properly talk about a game and show the audience whats happening in a game and why, as opposed to the tired old cliches and talking over each other that we hear from the RTE telecast.If Sky getting involved in the GAA and there excellent presentation of the games is not the wake up call to Rte to draft in some new blood then I do not know what is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2014, 02:26:04 AM
Some of the actual presentation on Sky - the graphics, the VTs, the intro - have actually been remarkably poor.

Rachel Wyse is a far better presenter than Matt Copper, the rest is mostly just having good analysts and co-commentators - the exact same ones as on TV3 in many cases.

Not seeing the revolution or even evolution that some of ye are. Maybe that'll come in time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 22, 2014, 08:10:46 AM
The simple presentation compared to that of the nualas is remarkable.  A caricature of Rte coverage might be
Hello by Michael and then 3 eejits wake up and start talking of their hopes for a good game and football no fist passes. By half time their most important stat s relate to hand passes and frees.  By full time it's hand passes frees dives and black cards  have I missed anything. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on June 22, 2014, 01:43:48 PM
nope.Hit  the nail on the head there RRHF.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on June 22, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
Ger, who is Carol Lacey from Donegal???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 22, 2014, 02:30:33 PM
how is Carney allowed commentate?

he is so biased!
cannot remember the Antrim players names!

Murphy won a handy free = Martin says it was defo a free
Antrim won a free = soft free
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 22, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
Quote from: Beantown on June 22, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
Ger, who is Carol Lacey from Donegal???

That Carthy is at it on the radio, too.

How do illiterates get jobs in communications with the state broadcaster?

Two out of three RTÉ commentators are telling us this week about the golf at "Photo" Island.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on June 22, 2014, 02:36:59 PM
Apparently it's Tyrone playing Armagh next week!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2014, 02:37:53 PM
Had give RTE  amiss the day and decided to watch the game on BBC2 . Who in there right mind thinks Mark Sidebottom should comment  on a GAA game, he has not a clue, never stops talking shite about stuff not relevant to the game, and it is easy to see he has no understanding of this game, Wish peter canvan would tell him to belt up, at least he knows what he talking about!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 22, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
1000 hand passes by o rourke.  Mildly interesting football as predicted.  These Rte so called experts have no respect for footballers nor understanding of the current game. They do bore.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 22, 2014, 02:46:49 PM
can't argue with the 1000 handpasses comment

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 22, 2014, 03:17:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 22, 2014, 02:26:04 AM
Some of the actual presentation on Sky - the graphics, the VTs, the intro - have actually been remarkably poor.

Rachel Wyse is a far better presenter than Matt Copper, the rest is mostly just having good analysts and co-commentators - the exact same ones as on TV3 in many cases.

Not seeing the revolution or even evolution that some of ye are. Maybe that'll come in time.
Sky Sports GAA  = tv3 + eur36 pm.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Carmen Stateside on June 22, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2014, 02:37:53 PM
Had give RTE  amiss the day and decided to watch the game on BBC2 . Who in there right mind thinks Mark Sidebottom should comment  on a GAA game, he has not a clue, never stops talking shite about stuff not relevant to the game, and it is easy to see he has no understanding of this game, Wish peter canvan would tell him to belt up, at least he knows what he talking about!

I done the very same thing.  Sidebottom is terrible, continually talking over Canavan, even couldn't let the lad at half time do his segment without talking over him while he spoke.  Oisin is very good at the job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2014, 05:39:15 PM
Is it me or is Donal Og Cusack tough to listen to, his tone almost makes me tune out after 10 seconds. It was one of the most incredible incredible finish I have ever witnessed and he proceeds to bring it down from 60 to 0 in a full 20 seconds.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
michael Lyster obviously gets it , he mercifully cut him off twice in the past few minutes
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 22, 2014, 07:17:02 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
michael Lyster obviously gets it , he mercifully cut him off twice in the past few minutes

Lyster would be one of the few RTE GAA employees (not pundits)that I would have any time for.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on June 22, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2014, 05:39:15 PM
Is it me or is Donal Og Cusack tough to listen to, his tone almost makes me tune out after 10 seconds. It was one of the most incredible incredible finish I have ever witnessed and he proceeds to bring it down from 60 to 0 in a full 20 seconds.

I actually hadn't seen any of these posts but was about to post that Cusack is really starting to annoy the shit out of me. He seems to think everything he says is the most insightful, profound analysis we have ever heard.

No wonder Sky didn't want him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 22, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2014, 05:39:15 PM
Is it me or is Donal Og Cusack tough to listen to, his tone almost makes me tune out after 10 seconds. It was one of the most incredible incredible finish I have ever witnessed and he proceeds to bring it down from 60 to 0 in a full 20 seconds.

I actually hadn't seen any of these posts but was about to post that Cusack is really starting to annoy the shit out of me. He seems to think everything he says is the most insightful, profound analysis we have ever heard.

No wonder Sky didn't want him.

Sky were never in the market for RTE pundits in the first place.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on June 22, 2014, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 22, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 22, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2014, 05:39:15 PM
Is it me or is Donal Og Cusack tough to listen to, his tone almost makes me tune out after 10 seconds. It was one of the most incredible incredible finish I have ever witnessed and he proceeds to bring it down from 60 to 0 in a full 20 seconds.

I actually hadn't seen any of these posts but was about to post that Cusack is really starting to annoy the shit out of me. He seems to think everything he says is the most insightful, profound analysis we have ever heard.

No wonder Sky didn't want him.

Sky were never in the market for RTE pundits in the first place.

Cusack wanted the job with Sky, Sky didn't want him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 22, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
Strange that the closing song tonight was 'You Made Me The Thief Of Your Heart' from the film 'In The Name Of The Father', about The Guildford Four. And on the same weekend as Gerry Conlon passed away. Coincidence or deliberate?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 29, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Why is the Sunday Game set at Croker dressed like a Sweet 16 party?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 29, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Why is the Sunday Game set at Croker dressed like a Sweet 16 party?

You'd be more familiar with such events, than most of us.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 29, 2014, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 29, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 29, 2014, 03:42:22 PM
Why is the Sunday Game set at Croker dressed like a Sweet 16 party?

You'd be more familiar with such events, than most of us.

;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 29, 2014, 10:40:09 PM
Des has went a bit mad on the just for men tonight...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Agent Orange on June 29, 2014, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 29, 2014, 10:40:09 PM
Des has went a bit mad on the just for men tonight...

And the Saint Tropez spray tan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on June 29, 2014, 10:42:57 PM
Is he still doing his moronic "word of the day" game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Agent Orange on June 29, 2014, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on June 29, 2014, 10:42:57 PM
Is he still doing his moronic "word of the day" game?

Yes, could we get him to say "gobshite".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 30, 2014, 12:16:37 AM
Still, I thought that Des' idea had potential, that Armagh should pursue a strategy of having Jamie Clarke pass to Jamie Clarke.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 30, 2014, 12:41:48 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2014, 12:16:37 AM
Still, I thought that Des' idea had potential, that Armagh should pursue a strategy of having Jamie Clarke pass to Jamie Clarke.

Canavan used to do that in the late 90s. Then he got himself sent off by simulation and then done himself in the shower after.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 06, 2014, 10:26:44 PM
Watching the Sunday Game online tonight, so thankfully we can get it again here in Britain. However, it must be said that Dermot Earley is a very poor analyst, nervous, error prone and says little informative. He seems like a nice fella but he brings nothing to the table as an analyst.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hairyUlsterman on July 06, 2014, 10:37:20 PM
That was a very nice Galway lassie in the break clips there so it was
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 07, 2014, 12:11:41 AM
The damn thing crashed before they showed the only major game we didn't see live, Monaghan v Armagh. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on July 07, 2014, 12:27:21 AM
Quote from: Zulu on July 07, 2014, 12:11:41 AM
The damn thing crashed before they showed the only major game we didn't see live, Monaghan v Armagh.

Would hardly matter. The game only got a minimal showing with many of the main talking points omitted completely - black cards, penalty appeal etc.. Unless it is one of the big teams football only seems to get a cursory showing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 07, 2014, 12:43:19 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on July 07, 2014, 12:27:21 AM
Quote from: Zulu on July 07, 2014, 12:11:41 AM
The damn thing crashed before they showed the only major game we didn't see live, Monaghan v Armagh.

Would hardly matter. The game only got a minimal showing with many of the main talking points omitted completely - black cards, penalty appeal etc.. Unless it is one of the big teams football only seems to get a cursory showing.
;D
The actual  main talking points were covered,   nevertheless , 7 minutes devoted to action from the game was indeed paltry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on July 07, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
F**kin typical.
Id watched most of the Cork & Kerry game live and really only wanted to see the Applemunchers & Mushroompickers highlights last night.
Sure wasn't it the last on the schedule ffs.
They showed hurling, then football, then more hurling and then finished with football, am I right?
Does anyone else think that didn't make a lot of sense. Why switch between the codes?

Did Des get his 'word' in this weeks show?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Goldengreen on July 07, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on July 07, 2014, 09:25:53 AM
F**kin typical.
Id watched most of the Cork & Kerry game live and really only wanted to see the Applemunchers & Mushroompickers highlights last night.
Sure wasn't it the last on the schedule ffs.
They showed hurling, then football, then more hurling and then finished with football, am I right?
Does anyone else think that didn't make a lot of sense. Why switch between the codes?

Did Des get his 'word' in this weeks show?

There was even camogie thrown in there before they showed the Monaghan v Armagh !!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on July 07, 2014, 12:56:00 PM
Does anyone know why this was or why the current format of choppin and changing codes is the norm this year.
Would agree with what someone said previously about Earley. He had a dose of the jitters last night. The Yella away strip for Longford had him tied in knots
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 07, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
By the way Longford lads. Mickey Quinn looked like he could have togged out for Offaly hurlers, if you get my drift. Maybe it was the yellow kit doing him no favours, but what's the story there? Was he injured or something?

I'd say the format is to keep people tuned in for the full show, rather than hurling fans tuning out after the hurling games, or vice versa.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Time-shifting, lads. It's your friend.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 03:04:06 PM
What are the huge yellow poles behind the end lines? Is it advertising on the net poles? I'd love to pay 20 or 30 quid and stand behind that yoke.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
You'd never know there was an advantage rule in hurling. Refs just ignore it completely.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 13, 2014, 05:06:49 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 03:04:06 PM
What are the huge yellow poles behind the end lines? Is it advertising on the net poles? I'd love to pay 20 or 30 quid and stand behind that yoke.

There's a literal white elephant behind one of the stands and the bit of advertising on the poles is the thing that catches your eyes?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
What's a literal white elephant?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 13, 2014, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
What's a literal white elephant?

A white elephant.

(http://c2.dmlimg.com/abeafefb1775bcdec36d9c59ed895122e9de85c6dbe908223cda7eba95dcf418.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: neilthemac on July 13, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
You'd never know there was an advantage rule in hurling. Refs just ignore it completely.
There is no advantage rule in hurling.
As in, you cannot bring play back
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2014, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
What's a literal white elephant?

A white elephant.

(http://c2.dmlimg.com/abeafefb1775bcdec36d9c59ed895122e9de85c6dbe908223cda7eba95dcf418.jpg)

You think that plastic yoke is a real elephant? And you're questioning MY powers of observation?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 13, 2014, 05:24:47 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 13, 2014, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
What's a literal white elephant?

A white elephant.

(http://c2.dmlimg.com/abeafefb1775bcdec36d9c59ed895122e9de85c6dbe908223cda7eba95dcf418.jpg)

You think that plastic yoke is a real elephant? And you're questioning MY powers of observation?

I didn't say a literal living white elephant. McHale Park is the most beautiful white elephant in Connacht so the above needed some qualifying 8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on July 13, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
You'd never know there was an advantage rule in hurling. Refs just ignore it completely.
There is no advantage rule in hurling.
As in, you cannot bring play back

There is an advantage rule in hurling. Two of them, in fact. Rules 4.34 and 5.43. You're right that a free cannot be awarded for the foul after advantage is given, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the half-dozen (at least) occasions today when the referee blew after the foul though the fouled player had a clear advantage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on July 13, 2014, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on July 13, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
You'd never know there was an advantage rule in hurling. Refs just ignore it completely.
There is no advantage rule in hurling.
As in, you cannot bring play back

There is an advantage rule in hurling. Two of them, in fact. Rules 4.34 and 5.43. You're right that a free cannot be awarded for the foul after advantage is given, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the half-dozen (at least) occasions today when the referee blew after the foul though the fouled player had a clear advantage.
Cork's first goal was down to advantage being played.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on July 13, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
You'd never know there was an advantage rule in hurling. Refs just ignore it completely.
There is no advantage rule in hurling.
As in, you cannot bring play back

There is an advantage rule in hurling. Two of them, in fact. Rules 4.34 and 5.43. You're right that a free cannot be awarded for the foul after advantage is given, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the half-dozen (at least) occasions today when the referee blew after the foul though the fouled player had a clear advantage.

What about all the frees he didn't blow? If there is one rule in hurling that referees are using it is the advantage rule.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 06:45:14 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2014, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on July 13, 2014, 05:16:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 05:02:36 PM
You'd never know there was an advantage rule in hurling. Refs just ignore it completely.
There is no advantage rule in hurling.
As in, you cannot bring play back

There is an advantage rule in hurling. Two of them, in fact. Rules 4.34 and 5.43. You're right that a free cannot be awarded for the foul after advantage is given, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the half-dozen (at least) occasions today when the referee blew after the foul though the fouled player had a clear advantage.

What about all the frees he didn't blow? If there is one rule in hurling that referees are using it is the advantage rule.

If they are, it's their own, makey-uppey version. How many times today did you see proper advantage played, as per the rules, with the referee holding up his hand to indicate, "I'm playing advantage here?" I didn't see it once.

(You could write twenty pages about all the fouls he didn't blow. File under "whatabout".)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
Just seems an odd criticism of hurling referees when they leave a huge amour go. I thought you only have to raise your arm in football to indicate advantage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 07:10:35 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
Just seems an odd criticism of hurling referees when they leave a huge amour go.
I thought it was odd that the referee today, time after time, called back the fouled team for a free they didn't need. I hope I'm allowed to say that. You feel free to go ahead and post about the amount of fouls hurling refs let go. I won't stop you.

QuoteI thought you only have to raise your arm in football to indicate advantage.
No. You have to do it in hurling too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
I hope I'm allowed to disagree with you and not take your opinion as gospel? I saw plenty of fouls he let go, I noticed him give advantage a few times and I didn't really feel he blew up too quickly too many times. If you're fouled and you can get a score-able free then it should be given unless there is a clear goal scoring chance with advantage. Don't think that occurred today on numerous occasions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 13, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
The advantage rule says nothing about clear goal scoring chances. As a referee (I think you said you are) you'll know that. Have you re-interpreted the advantage rule in your own way to apply it only when there's a clear goal-scoring chance?

In any case, my point was that, on several occasions today, the referee blew the whistle immediately on the foul, without waiting to see if there was an advantage. In many cases, there was a clear advantage accruing. That's simply not how the game is meant to be refereed. The advantage rule is there specifically to allow the referee to let the game continue if there's no advantage to the fouled party in stopping it. I noticed today's referee wasn't doing that. Then I remembered that I rarely see it in hurling at all.

And why are people today telling me I should be posting about something other than what I'm posting about. I commented on advantage and you asked why I wasn't talking about frees not given. I asked about the big yella poles and the other lad said, "What about the elephant? Why are you ignoring the elephant?" What's going on?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2014, 07:47:11 PM
QuoteThe advantage rule says nothing about clear goal scoring chances. As a referee (I think you said you are) you'll know that. Have you re-interpreted the advantage rule in your own way to apply it only when there's a clear goal-scoring chance?

Errr, no. I'm saying that if you foul someone and they are in a part of the field where the free would be score-able then there is no definite advantage to leaving the play go. The purpose of the sport is to score so if the free is giving you a score then unless the advantage gives you a clear goal scoring opportunity, why is it an advantage not to give the free?

QuoteIn any case, my point was that, on several occasions today, the referee blew the whistle immediately on the foul, without waiting to see if there was an advantage. In many cases, there was a clear advantage accruing. That's simply not how the game is meant to be refereed. The advantage rule is there specifically to allow the referee to let the game continue if there's no advantage to the fouled party in stopping it. I noticed today's referee wasn't doing that. Then I remembered that I rarely see it in hurling at all.

Not sure where you're getting the idea that it's not how the game should be reffed, referees are meant to blow for fouls barring a clear advantage accruing to the fouled team. Often, hurling referees let numerous fouls go even when the attacking team would take the free.

QuoteAnd why are people today telling me I should be posting about something other than what I'm posting about. I commented on advantage and you asked why I wasn't talking about frees not given.

I can't comment on anyone else but I said that as your criticism seemed bizarre to me when hurling referees are allowing huge amount of advantage in games even when it isn't obvious there is any.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JP on July 13, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
I assume the armagh game will be on last?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inexile on July 13, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
Quote from: JP on July 13, 2014, 07:59:23 PM
I assume the armagh game will be on last?

either that or the down v Kildare match
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2014, 04:22:52 PM
Marty Morrissey still going on with 'look where such and such is in his hb line' malarkey. Bugs me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 20, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
Some quare suits on tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hairyUlsterman on July 20, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
Cookstown men are awful trendy so they are
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 20, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
Mugsy "If someone puts their finger in your mouth are you suppose to blow it out"  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on July 20, 2014, 10:27:11 PM
Look at the fcukin state of Mulligan
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 20, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2014, 10:26:43 PM
Ach I like Mugsy and all but ffs thon hairdo is shocking.

All he is missing is the blouse!  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 20, 2014, 11:04:15 PM
Who's idea was it to use Mugsy as a pundit?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Why does he always look away from Des when he's supposed to be speaking to him?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 21, 2014, 12:12:19 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Why does he always look away from Des when he's supposed to be speaking to him?

Probably cant stand the sight of him! Too much a clash of hair styles.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 21, 2014, 12:30:33 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Why does he always look away from Des when he's supposed to be speaking to him?

Would you be able to look at a fella who puts shakalakaboomboom in a sentence?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 21, 2014, 08:08:32 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 21, 2014, 12:30:33 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2014, 11:34:52 PM
Why does he always look away from Des when he's supposed to be speaking to him?

Would you be able to look at a fella who puts shakalakaboomboom in a sentence?

Ha fair enough.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lawnseed on July 21, 2014, 08:20:33 AM
Things that make you go what the fuk.. Is mugsy wearing paul galvins old clothes? Sweet jeez has he no friends?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on July 21, 2014, 09:00:53 AM
Has Brolly been fired?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 21, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 21, 2014, 09:00:53 AM
Has Brolly been fired?

I think he is on his jollies in France.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 21, 2014, 03:25:42 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 21, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 21, 2014, 09:00:53 AM
Has Brolly been fired?

I think he is on his jollies in France.
Hopefully until October 1st.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: meathie on July 21, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
I actually can't believe there wasn't more about mulligan on this thread!! Shocking stuff, shocking!  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on July 22, 2014, 04:00:01 PM
I thought the hurling analysis was very good again. It helps that they were both at the game(Waterford v Wexford). Duignan was quick to let us know that he's been at all of Wexford's games this year but that's why he's able to tell us some things we don't know about them. I think Donal Og is a living legend, too. Knows his stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on July 22, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
Is it just me or is anyone else finding the Football Championship quite dull this year? (Maybe its just the fact Derry were put out so early)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
It was no better last year.
Only gets going at quarter final stage, the same as every other cup competition in sport.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aristo 60 on July 22, 2014, 04:47:54 PM
Quote from: meathie on July 21, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
I actually can't believe there wasn't more about mulligan on this thread!! Shocking stuff, shocking!  :)

Agreed, shocking - he's no Brolly or Stephen Fry or anything like it.

The best he could do for himself is to dream up some premeditated paragraph like Cantona did and just trot that out. At least then some of the punters wouldn't immediately know he's completely out of his depth.

He sounded virtually unprepared and inarticulate to boot but I've no experience of what it's like under the glare of the camera and spotlight. No doubt he can see the plays on the pitch better than most of us on here but you wouldn't think it with all the mumbly speak.

Dermot Early does very well and maybe with time Mugsie could reach his standard. It would be a big big maybe but.

Mind you Mugsie has the edge with his simply gorgeous tresses and for that alone he's a decent counterfoil to Early!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DoireGael on July 24, 2014, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
It was no better last year.
Only gets going at quarter final stage, the same as every other cup competition in sport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxU9aCiLW3o

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 24, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
Quote from: meathie on July 21, 2014, 06:03:57 PM
I actually can't believe there wasn't more about mulligan on this thread!! Shocking stuff, shocking!  :)

Sunday Game in shite pundit shocker!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 24, 2014, 04:32:40 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2014, 04:29:53 PM
It was no better last year.
Only gets going at quarter final stage, the same as every other cup competition in sport.
One of the reasons the hurling championship is so much more exciting etc is that it's limited to the top 12 Counties. It helps that of the 9 best of them any of them is capable of beating one of the other 8.
Football has 32 - about 12 no hopers and 12 more hoping to get a good run or maybe make a Provincial Final. Of the remaining 8 - 4 appear to be at a higher level.
So there are a lot of games but most of them have no relationship with winning shiny cups.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 27, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Any chance Donal Og could get his point across a bit quicker ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BartSimpson on July 27, 2014, 10:50:46 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 27, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
Any chance Donal Og could get his point across a bit quicker ?
He's from Cork. No
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Nasty dig by Brolly to O'Rourke as to him spending Nama money at the Galway Races. O'Rourke clearly not pleased by the comment! No love lost there?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
Tommy Carr! Why Sunday Game why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 03, 2014, 02:12:02 PM
cause hes good for the bread and butter stuff really lol, or u need forwards to win games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on August 03, 2014, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Nasty dig by Brolly to O'Rourke as to him spending Nama money at the Galway Races. O'Rourke clearly not pleased by the comment! No love lost there?
Again what has this to do with the matches.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
Tommy Carr! Why Sunday Game why?

He's probably cheap!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hairyUlsterman on August 03, 2014, 02:55:05 PM
Maybe some would rather listen to Eoin Mulligan instead?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2014, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
Tommy Carr! Why Sunday Game why?

God only knows.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Listen without always talking, Joe.

The Leitrim buck is getting chippy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 03, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Did I hear correctly at the beginning where Brolly slagged O'Rourke for his financial woes, being in NAMA and being bailed out by the taxpayer?

Brolly is some tool!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Go home ref on August 03, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
Tommy Carr is a fuckin knob who offers absolutely no analysis whatsoever he comes out with shite like "the forwards will be key for scoring today" and other such nonsense
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
Brolly after showing Derrys league semi final goal v Mayo as an example of how to beat Mayo full back line. He failed to mention that there was no Cafferkey, Barrett, Cunniffe or Higgins on the pitch at the time! ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hairyUlsterman on August 03, 2014, 04:17:45 PM
I am sure Joseph had no say on what RTE pulled from the archives.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on August 03, 2014, 04:49:22 PM
Joe is being an annoying bollix today. Whelo will have him by the throat during the ad break.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
How is Martin Carney - a Man who lives in and played inter-county football for Mayo be used to co-commentate on this game. Biased beyond belief.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 03, 2014, 05:11:39 PM
Bias is the least of his problems.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: hairyUlsterman on August 03, 2014, 06:26:06 PM
I never knew he played football, I always thought that commentator was your man who used to present The Winning Streak
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 03, 2014, 06:28:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
How is Martin Carney - a Man who lives in and played inter-county football for Mayo be used to co-commentate on this game. Biased beyond belief.

He does Donegal games regularly too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 03, 2014, 06:28:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
How is Martin Carney - a Man who lives in and played inter-county football for Mayo be used to co-commentate on this game. Biased beyond belief.

He does Donegal games regularly too.

But he secretly hates Donegal so that's ok.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 03, 2014, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 03, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Did I hear correctly at the beginning where Brolly slagged O'Rourke for his financial woes, being in NAMA and being bailed out by the taxpayer?

Brolly is some tool!

I missed the start but I've seen a number of references to this since on social media.
I enjoy Brolly most of the time but that's a really low blow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 08:44:18 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 03, 2014, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 03, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Did I hear correctly at the beginning where Brolly slagged O'Rourke for his financial woes, being in NAMA and being bailed out by the taxpayer?

Brolly is some tool!

I missed the start but I've seen a number of references to this since on social media.
I enjoy Brolly most of the time but that's a really low blow.

I enjoy Brolly and his rants. But to bring a fellow analysts personal life into discussion was low. O'Rourke was clearly shook by the comment and it took a while for him to gather his thoughts and composure. On a side note he was very rude to Ciaran Whealan as well. I have no love for either (COR/CW) but there is a lack of good manners with this man and RTE better be careful!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on August 03, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
It must take all the will power that Whelan has not to take a swipe at Brolly.The sooner Rte get rid of Brolly the better for all concerned as he just takes the show down.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
Quote from: maigheo on August 03, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
It must take all the will power that Whelan has not to take a swipe at Brolly.The sooner Rte get rid of Brolly the better for all concerned as he just takes the show down.

We're not all animals.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 03, 2014, 08:53:48 PM
Brolly was an ignorant swine to ORourke, Whelan and the Galway footballers today, very poor form from him, he needs to be challenged in the studio by one of the lads
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 03, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
Quote from: maigheo on August 03, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
It must take all the will power that Whelan has not to take a swipe at Brolly.The sooner Rte get rid of Brolly the better for all concerned as he just takes the show down.

We're not all animals.

Your saying Whelan is?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 08:55:59 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 03, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 08:53:18 PM
Quote from: maigheo on August 03, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
It must take all the will power that Whelan has not to take a swipe at Brolly.The sooner Rte get rid of Brolly the better for all concerned as he just takes the show down.

We're not all animals.

Your saying Whelan is?

I'm saying Whelo isn't.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 03, 2014, 09:08:55 PM
The prob is that joe argues for a living. I think he is being a fecker in TV to try and challenge himself. It's too easy and boring otherwise.
I don't know where he gets some of his reasoning!
No one can touch him in an argument on TV.
Prob need to draft in a pro oo qc from Belfast onto the panel !
He'd prob know as much about football analysis as some on the Sunday game!

Or sky!
The commentator mentioned that Monaghan were going through the phases when attacking
-I almost kicked the Telly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 09:14:07 PM
You get angry about very strange things, Lynchboy :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgeddon on August 03, 2014, 10:40:54 PM
Sunday game has just cemented my belief that they don't know their ulster football. Mallons are now brothers
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 03, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Brian & Andy Mallon brothers! Jesus wept.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ranch on August 03, 2014, 10:44:08 PM
Cringed the whole way through that piece. Shocking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 03, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012
didnt hear McHugh, and I think he's a complete and utter gobshite. But if Kerry had a choice about who was to miss the season this year, I think O'Donoghue would have been a bigger loss than Gooch.

The praise Gooch got last year for the game against Dublin was unreal. While he had a great first half, anyone who thinks he was better than O'Donoghue that day has only watched the game once. And Gooch did feck all in the 2nd half when the Dubs decided to go man-to-man on him.

I don't mean to slight Gooch. He's a big loss to Kerry. But O'Donoghe passed him out last year and is only getting better. Gooch will still have great days, but his peak is gone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 03, 2014, 10:55:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 03, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Brian & Andy Mallon brothers! Jesus wept.

Next thing they'll be telling us the Forker's are brothers too. Oh wait...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 03, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012
didnt hear McHugh, and I think he's a complete and utter gobshite. But if Kerry had a choice about who was to miss the season this year, I think O'Donoghue would have been a bigger loss than Gooch.

The praise Gooch got last year for the game against Dublin was unreal. While he had a great first half, anyone who thinks he was better than O'Donoghue that day has only watched the game once. And Gooch did feck all in the 2nd half when the Dubs decided to go man-to-man on him.

I don't mean to slight Gooch. He's a big loss to Kerry. But O'Donoghe passed him out last year and is only getting better. Gooch will still have great days, but his peak is gone.


He was marking a child today.

Cork didn't mark him and Dublin made no effort to mark him either  last year and both got filleted.

Its laughable to suggest JOD has already surpassed the legacy of the best player ever to play the game. At this stage he probably is more valuable but at 8-9 years younger he'd want to be really.

Will he achieve the greatness and consistency of CC- I doubt it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 03, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
Martin McHugh gives me a sharp pain behind my eyes when he speaks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 03, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 11:01:13 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 03, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012
didnt hear McHugh, and I think he's a complete and utter gobshite. But if Kerry had a choice about who was to miss the season this year, I think O'Donoghue would have been a bigger loss than Gooch.

The praise Gooch got last year for the game against Dublin was unreal. While he had a great first half, anyone who thinks he was better than O'Donoghue that day has only watched the game once. And Gooch did feck all in the 2nd half when the Dubs decided to go man-to-man on him.

I don't mean to slight Gooch. He's a big loss to Kerry. But O'Donoghe passed him out last year and is only getting better. Gooch will still have great days, but his peak is gone.


He was marking a child today.

Cork didn't mark him and Dublin made no effort to mark him either  last year and both got filleted.

Its laughable to suggest JOD has already surpassed the legacy of the best player ever to play the game. At this stage he probably is more valuable but at 8-9 years younger he'd want to be really.

Will he achieve the greatness and consistency of CC- I doubt it.
O'donoghue is a better player now than Gooch is.
Over both their careers, Gooch is still well ahead, and I never suggested otherwise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 11:04:27 PM
Gooch's game never really relied on strength or even burning pace. He's performed near or about the same level for a decade. It's not really been a career with peaks or valleys. Barring the injury effecting him I'd expect him to be back to his usual level of performance. O'Donagahue has a lot of miles to go to even be in the same post code as Gooch as a player.

It was pretty clear even last year that Kerry were going as Gooch went and when Dublin quietened him down in the AISF bad things started happening for Kerry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 03, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012
didnt hear McHugh, and I think he's a complete and utter gobshite. But if Kerry had a choice about who was to miss the season this year, I think O'Donoghue would have been a bigger loss than Gooch.

The praise Gooch got last year for the game against Dublin was unreal. While he had a great first half, anyone who thinks he was better than O'Donoghue that day has only watched the game once. And Gooch did feck all in the 2nd half when the Dubs decided to go man-to-man on him.

I don't mean to slight Gooch. He's a big loss to Kerry. But O'Donoghe passed him out last year and is only getting better. Gooch will still have great days, but his peak is gone.

It wasn't just that he was saying O'Donoghue is currently better, he said something like he's one of the greatest talents he's ever seen, and better than the "two-trick pony" Gooch. The other lads immediately laughed away at him and rightly so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on August 03, 2014, 11:08:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 03, 2014, 11:03:28 PM
Martin McHugh gives me a sharp pain behind my eyes when he speaks.

And that's why RTE have him employed, Brolly in the afternoon and Martin beag in the evening..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 03, 2014, 11:13:49 PM
Des claimed that Monaghan won a championship game in Croke Park in 1984.
Obviously mixing up that it was 84 years since Monaghan's last win there (1930).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 03, 2014, 11:31:43 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 03, 2014, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012
didnt hear McHugh, and I think he's a complete and utter gobshite. But if Kerry had a choice about who was to miss the season this year, I think O'Donoghue would have been a bigger loss than Gooch.

The praise Gooch got last year for the game against Dublin was unreal. While he had a great first half, anyone who thinks he was better than O'Donoghue that day has only watched the game once. And Gooch did feck all in the 2nd half when the Dubs decided to go man-to-man on him.

I don't mean to slight Gooch. He's a big loss to Kerry. But O'Donoghe passed him out last year and is only getting better. Gooch will still have great days, but his peak is gone.

It wasn't just that he was saying O'Donoghue is currently better, he said something like he's one of the greatest talents he's ever seen, and better than the "two-trick pony" Gooch. The other lads immediately laughed away at him and rightly so.
Thanks for that clarification. And i agree that's nonsense!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 04, 2014, 01:02:21 AM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on August 03, 2014, 09:08:55 PM
The prob is that joe argues for a living. I think he is being a fecker in TV to try and challenge himself. It's too easy and boring otherwise.
I don't know where he gets some of his reasoning!
No one can touch him in an argument on TV.
Prob need to draft in a pro oo qc from Belfast onto the panel !
He'd prob know as much about football analysis as some on the Sunday game!

Or sky!
The commentator mentioned that Monaghan were going through the phases when attacking
-I almost kicked the Telly

The problem with Joe is that he's a w**ker. Or at the very least does a top notch impression of a w**ker
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 04, 2014, 01:27:35 AM
I (and anybody else from Derry) have been telling people that McHugh is a complete gobshite and hasn't a clue for years!! Finally everyone else can see it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: billabong on August 04, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
The whole two trick pony thing, did anyone else think back to your man Stuart on The Apprentice a few years ago who said "I'm not a one trick pony or a 2 trick pony, in fact I have a whole field of ponies!!"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zip Code on August 04, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 03, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Brian & Andy Mallon brothers! Jesus wept.

I was pishing myself at that!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on August 04, 2014, 01:50:55 PM
Anyone else (or was it just me) think that Michael on the live edition was keeping a really tight rein on Joe. Every time he went to go off on one ML cut him off, maybe it was just short on time or whatever but the fact he did it a couple of times made me think he had someone in his ear telling him not to let Joe off the leash.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Comeontheturks on August 04, 2014, 02:41:20 PM
First post so apologies to all the experienced campaigners.
I know All Ireland medals are not the only yardstick by which one should rate a panelist (Expert) but it does give a certain credibility. Looking at yesterday's coverage we had O Rourke, Whelan and Brolly followed by Mc Stay, McHugh and Early - a combined total of 4 All Ireland Senior medals between them and if memory serves me right none of the 4 coming in the last 20 years. These guys are underachievers who played in an age that is so far removed from today's game that we shouldn't be in the least bit surprised with some of the stuff they come out with. As for the Gooch comment?  Nearly brought up a good steak when I heard it.  it's like saying McIlroy is only a 3 trick pony.Driving, irons and putting!!!!!   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 04, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
Current county managers;

Jim Gavin (1 AI)
Eamonn Fitzmaurice (3 AI's)
James Horan (0 AI's)
Jim McGuinness (1 AI, sub)

Malachy O'Rourke (0 AI's)
Paul Grimley (0 AI's)

Not too many AI medals within the senior manager stakes either, although I think these lads know a thing or two about football and wouldn't be going and questioning their credibility. Fitzmaurice might have one in the last 20 years, but that's it..

As you say, not the only yardstick

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Comeontheturks on August 04, 2014, 03:03:20 PM
With all due respect such are the demands on an inter county coach that 90% + of ex players are immediately ruled out of coaching.. Are you suggesting the skills required for coaching and punditry are similar?
Look at the equivalent hurling panels.!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on August 04, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 03, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Brian & Andy Mallon brothers! Jesus wept.

I was pishing myself at that!

Speaking of pishing yourself, has this been mentioned anywhere since yesterday??

EDIT: image removed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HiMucker on August 04, 2014, 03:51:12 PM
f**king langers!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 04, 2014, 04:29:47 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on August 04, 2014, 03:51:12 PM
f**king langers!

The look of pure satisfaction on his face  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:51:07 PM
That badly needed highlighting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on August 04, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
Clip of martin mchughs gooch comment came up on the facebook feed, didnt get as far as the punchline as i find him so irritating to listen to. Fair play to him he's making a nice little sideline with the tv and newspaper columns but his opinions are piss poor and he is always chasing a line such as yesterdays
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Here there's no need for that. These guys are over-hydrating for days in the lead up to a match and a combination of nerves and this, mean some of them need a pee urgently. They dont have the option of heading back into the changing rooms to take a leak. I've been in loads of huddles were this has happened and I'd say anyone who has played much has been too. Calling someone a dirtbag isnt on, im sure he had no idea the cameras were on him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:51:07 PM
That badly needed highlighting.

Glad you agree
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HiMucker on August 04, 2014, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Here there's no need for that. These guys are over-hydrating for days in the lead up to a match and a combination of nerves and this, mean some of them need a pee urgently. They dont have the option of heading back into the changing rooms to take a leak. I've been in loads of huddles were this has happened and I'd say anyone who has played much has been too. Calling someone a dirtbag isnt on, im sure he had no idea the cameras were on him.
I agree with you there but do you not think the number 12 having a wee five knuckle shuffle is a bit much!  I hear Robbie fowler used to do it before games but would hope GAA players having started it too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Here there's no need for that. These guys are over-hydrating for days in the lead up to a match and a combination of nerves and this, mean some of them need a pee urgently. They dont have the option of heading back into the changing rooms to take a leak. I've been in loads of huddles were this has happened and I'd say anyone who has played much has been too. Calling someone a dirtbag isnt on, im sure he had no idea the cameras were on him.

+1
If you've played the game, you've seen this happen.
Even if you haven't, falling over yourself to share the image is the behaviour of a 14 year old kid.
The player in question has to go back in to work tomorrow and he shouldn't have to deal with this nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on August 04, 2014, 05:18:54 PM
QuoteTo highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Sure isn't that what huddles were invented for ... what do you expect a player to do?  I'd say it happens most days in Croke Park at some stage, just that TV doesn't usually catch, they should have formed the huddle a little better though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Here there's no need for that. These guys are over-hydrating for days in the lead up to a match and a combination of nerves and this, mean some of them need a pee urgently. They dont have the option of heading back into the changing rooms to take a leak. I've been in loads of huddles were this has happened and I'd say anyone who has played much has been too. Calling someone a dirtbag isnt on, im sure he had no idea the cameras were on him.

+1
If you've played the game, you've seen this happen.
Even if you haven't, falling over yourself to share the image is the behaviour of a 14 year old kid.
The player in question has to go back in to work tomorrow and he shouldn't have to deal with this nonsense.

So don't do it in front of thousands of people and numerous cameras broadcasting the event live on TV!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Here there's no need for that. These guys are over-hydrating for days in the lead up to a match and a combination of nerves and this, mean some of them need a pee urgently. They dont have the option of heading back into the changing rooms to take a leak. I've been in loads of huddles were this has happened and I'd say anyone who has played much has been too. Calling someone a dirtbag isnt on, im sure he had no idea the cameras were on him.

+1
If you've played the game, you've seen this happen.
Even if you haven't, falling over yourself to share the image is the behaviour of a 14 year old kid.
The player in question has to go back in to work tomorrow and he shouldn't have to deal with this nonsense.

So don't do it in front of thousands of people and numerous cameras broadcasting the event live on TV!

Have u ever been on a football pitch in your life? Doesn't look like it. Clown
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 04, 2014, 05:30:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 03, 2014, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 03, 2014, 06:28:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 03, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
How is Martin Carney - a Man who lives in and played inter-county football for Mayo be used to co-commentate on this game. Biased beyond belief.

He does Donegal games regularly too.

But he secretly hates Donegal so that's ok.

He must have had very rough youth growing up in Ballyshannon and winning Ulster medals with the Donegal seniors if he hates us!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 05:31:22 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 05:19:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 04, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Here there's no need for that. These guys are over-hydrating for days in the lead up to a match and a combination of nerves and this, mean some of them need a pee urgently. They dont have the option of heading back into the changing rooms to take a leak. I've been in loads of huddles were this has happened and I'd say anyone who has played much has been too. Calling someone a dirtbag isnt on, im sure he had no idea the cameras were on him.

+1
If you've played the game, you've seen this happen.
Even if you haven't, falling over yourself to share the image is the behaviour of a 14 year old kid.
The player in question has to go back in to work tomorrow and he shouldn't have to deal with this nonsense.

So don't do it in front of thousands of people and numerous cameras broadcasting the event live on TV!

Have u ever been on a football pitch in your life? Doesn't look like it. Clown

I have - and I've never felt the need to piss on the pitch!! Clown
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 04, 2014, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 03, 2014, 10:23:48 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 03, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
McHugh thinks O'Donoghue is better than Gooch!!

Gooch a two trick pony. I had to play it back again to see if he actually said it. I mean what a gobshite.

Further evidence of how Donegal think they re-invented Gaelic Football in 2012

The only "further evidence" I can see is that of your strange obsession and paranoia with Donegal (are you mates with some clueless morons from the northwest or something whom you consider to be representative of Donegal people as a whole?)! Christ knows what the semi-final thread will be like if we both win this Saturday!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyroneman on August 04, 2014, 05:46:38 PM
Didn't bother watching the Sunday game as I caught the full matches earlier. What exactly did McHugh say? What was the context?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 04, 2014, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

There's more germs in the soil and on the boots of the players and officials than there would be in someone's piss.

Delete the photo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghgeddon on August 04, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
The weesiders
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
It was on TV lads. No need to go losing your rag over the issue being highlighted. And yeah, it is a bit of an issue whether people like it or not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 04, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
It was on TV lads. No need to go losing your rag over the issue being highlighted. And yeah, it is a bit of an issue whether people like it or not.

Why is it an issue?

A similar photo of a well-known Kerry player was highlighted some years back. No one considered it a big deal at all. I've seen it plenty of times myself in many years of playing junior soccer. I'm pretty positive it happens regular at intercounty level. Where are the players going to go, especially in summer weather when they have to drink up before a game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
It was on TV lads. No need to go losing your rag over the issue being highlighted. And yeah, it is a bit of an issue whether people like it or not.

Why is it an issue?

A similar photo of a well-known Kerry player was highlighted some years back. No one considered it a big deal at all. I've seen it plenty of times myself in many years of playing junior soccer. I'm pretty positive it happens regular at intercounty level. Where are the players going to go, especially in summer weather when they have to drink up before a game?

Then it shouldn't be a big issue either way. Some of the reaction here has been way OTT in the other direction, almost making out the lad pissing on the Croke Park pitch is some victim because someone saw him and posted a picture. He's not a villain or a victim.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

There's more germs in the soil and on the boots of the players and officials than there would be in someone's piss.

Delete the photo.

Delete the photo? Wise up, it was live on TV. I've seen it done before in club matches as well and have pulled team mates up for doing it. It's rotten! This is the first time I've seen it done during a live inter county match
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
And yet thousands of other people saw it and chose to just get on with their lives.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 04, 2014, 06:54:05 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

There's more germs in the soil and on the boots of the players and officials than there would be in someone's piss.

Delete the photo.

Delete the photo? Wise up, it was live on TV. I've seen it done before in club matches as well and have pulled team mates up for doing it. It's rotten! This is the first time I've seen it done during a live inter county match

I watched the game and didn't notice,  as did most people I'd say. You must have little to worry about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 04, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
It was on TV lads. No need to go losing your rag over the issue being highlighted. And yeah, it is a bit of an issue whether people like it or not.

Why is it an issue?

A similar photo of a well-known Kerry player was highlighted some years back. No one considered it a big deal at all. I've seen it plenty of times myself in many years of playing junior soccer. I'm pretty positive it happens regular at intercounty level. Where are the players going to go, especially in summer weather when they have to drink up before a game?

Then it shouldn't be a big issue either way. Some of the reaction here has been way OTT in the other direction, almost making out the lad pissing on the Croke Park pitch is some victim because someone saw him and posted a picture. He's not a villain or a victim.

You don't think it's embarrassing for him?

How many lads here have pissed against a wall or a tree? f**king all of us,  and none of us would appreciate some eejit highlighting it for all the world to see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
It was on TV lads. No need to go losing your rag over the issue being highlighted. And yeah, it is a bit of an issue whether people like it or not.

Why is it an issue?

A similar photo of a well-known Kerry player was highlighted some years back. No one considered it a big deal at all. I've seen it plenty of times myself in many years of playing junior soccer. I'm pretty positive it happens regular at intercounty level. Where are the players going to go, especially in summer weather when they have to drink up before a game?

Then it shouldn't be a big issue either way. Some of the reaction here has been way OTT in the other direction, almost making out the lad pissing on the Croke Park pitch is some victim because someone saw him and posted a picture. He's not a villain or a victim.

You don't think it's embarrassing for him?

How many lads here have pissed against a wall or a tree? f**king all of us,  and none of us would appreciate some eejit highlighting it for all the world to see.

To be fair when you piss against a tree there isn't 30k people staring in your general direction or a world-wide television audience. I hope he wasn't stupid enough to not understand the risk of it being caught. It is what it is. Maybe it's time to invest in catheter bags 8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 07:09:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 04, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
It was on TV lads. No need to go losing your rag over the issue being highlighted. And yeah, it is a bit of an issue whether people like it or not.

Why is it an issue?

A similar photo of a well-known Kerry player was highlighted some years back. No one considered it a big deal at all. I've seen it plenty of times myself in many years of playing junior soccer. I'm pretty positive it happens regular at intercounty level. Where are the players going to go, especially in summer weather when they have to drink up before a game?

Then it shouldn't be a big issue either way. Some of the reaction here has been way OTT in the other direction, almost making out the lad pissing on the Croke Park pitch is some victim because someone saw him and posted a picture. He's not a villain or a victim.

You don't think it's embarrassing for him?

How many lads here have pissed against a wall or a tree? f**king all of us,  and none of us would appreciate some eejit highlighting it for all the world to see.

To be fair when you piss against a tree there isn't 30k people staring in your general direction or a world-wide television audience. I hope he wasn't stupid enough to not understand the risk of it being caught. It is what it is. Maybe it's time to invest in catheter bags 8)

Exactly. And if course it's embarrassing. More people will have seen it on rte than will see the image on here. I find it very surprising that people find it acceptable
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 04, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
Not the first time heard of this happening, Darragh O'Se was one of those who took a slash out there before.

This is the kinda shite that leads up from reading rags like the daily mail or listening to joe duffy, after a while you have to go around looking for reasons to get upset. I'm sure you'll be disgusted to know that bears continue to shit in the woods and the pope is still a catholic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 08:00:49 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 04, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
Not the first time heard of this happening, Darragh O'Se was one of those who took a slash out there before.

This is the kinda shite that leads up from reading rags like the daily mail or listening to joe duffy, after a while you have to go around looking for reasons to get upset. I'm sure you'll be disgusted to know that bears continue to shit in the woods and the pope is still a catholic.

The O'Shea brothers have better manners than that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 04, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
Not the first time heard of this happening, Darragh O'Se was one of those who took a slash out there before.

This is the kinda shite that leads up from reading rags like the daily mail or listening to joe duffy, after a while you have to go around looking for reasons to get upset. I'm sure you'll be disgusted to know that bears continue to shit in the woods and the pope is still a catholic.

At least bears have the decency to go into the woods where there's no crowds or tv cameras
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
You sound like you will be scarred for life ,take_yer_points ,after witnessing Goold having a piss.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 04, 2014, 08:28:40 PM
I think the broadcasters are to blame here, the lads in the vans etc operating the cameras, they could have easily cut away from that scene or not included it............................................its drivel compared to whats going on worldwide
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
You sound like you will be scarred for life ,take_yer_points ,after witnessing Goold having a piss.

No, not scarred for life at all - far from it. I think it's a very strange thing to do on a football pitch, particularly when the match is live on TV and with tens of thousands of people in attendance. It's been a pet hate for years and have seen numerous people do it in club matches but never at that level.

I also find it strange that so many people think it's ok.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on August 04, 2014, 08:54:25 PM

This happens every game in croke park and most other championship grounds for generations- it's the main reason why there are huddles before throw in - the majority are providing cover. There is an unwritten rule with media too that they look the other way. Of course every so often a clown will come along and snap it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
So a player should hold in until half time and play a high intense championship game when he has to go? The amount of fluids players take its not much of a surprise,  no doubt he would have went earlier when they were in the dressing room but probaly didn't need to go or was so worked up for the game that he forgot to go. He wasn't named in the orginal team so who knows. Don't see the problem,  there was probaly lots other counties players did in before too, but weren't caught on camera.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 04, 2014, 09:04:15 PM
This weekend, Martin McHugh has proven to everyone that he knows feck all, Brolly confirmed that he's a nasty little man and will say anything to get a bit of publicity and they show a player piss on the pitch. Quality stuff!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 04, 2014, 08:54:25 PM

This happens every game in croke park and most other championship grounds for generations- it's the main reason why there are huddles before throw in - the majority are providing cover. There is an unwritten rule with media too that they look the other way. Of course every so often a clown will come along and snap it

The vast pissing conspiracy at Croke Park deepens.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 04, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
Just watched last nights Sunday game and all I can say is that Martin McHugh is some pup. Either he is a complete wind up merchant or he seriously has no clue about GAA. To call the gooch a two trick pony is as daft as I've heard.
Do any of you notice that he rarely answers what he's asked and simply says "It's interesting,, if ya look at it..." and then makes some random off the wall statement about his view or he was chatting so and so (name drop, name drop). His analysis is appalling.. but his wild statements were entertaining at least. Is he trying to join the outlandish Spillane and Brolly circus?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on August 04, 2014, 09:44:29 PM
Davey Brady reckons mchugh saved that one for contraversy. Reckoned he isnt on the tv much so needed to come out with a wild one to get attention.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 04, 2014, 09:47:24 PM
Mchugh lost it a few years ago. Rte just seem to want to have a load of guys like that who grab headlines spouting bullshit. Des Cahill loves it too - seems to be looking for the headline.

Sky plus was made for the sunday game - you can watch it in less than an hour and not have to listen to any nonsense!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on August 04, 2014, 09:52:19 PM
I thought they were doing their best to get Hughes from Monaghan suspended for the Dublin game at the end last night. Although he was stupid I really don't think it was that bad or needed focused on. Hoganstand are in on the act today saying he could get suspended. Considering their was punches thrown and people bitten in the Dublin Meath game which rte brushed over it would be a disgrace if anything happened.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
You sound like you will be scarred for life ,take_yer_points ,after witnessing Goold having a piss.

No, not scarred for life at all - far from it. I think it's a very strange thing to do on a football pitch, particularly when the match is live on TV and with tens of thousands of people in attendance. It's been a pet hate for years and have seen numerous people do it in club matches but never at that level.

I also find it strange that so many people think it's ok.

Why post a massive picture of it though?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
You sound like you will be scarred for life ,take_yer_points ,after witnessing Goold having a piss.

No, not scarred for life at all - far from it. I think it's a very strange thing to do on a football pitch, particularly when the match is live on TV and with tens of thousands of people in attendance. It's been a pet hate for years and have seen numerous people do it in club matches but never at that level.

I also find it strange that so many people think it's ok.

Why post a massive picture of it though?

Why not post a picture on the board? It's not like I took a sneaky picture when nobody knew i was doing it - it's a still picture taken from a live television broadcast. I used the picture to provide an example of something that's been a pet hate for years and to stimulate some discussion.

Someone mentioned seeing this in junior soccer previously. That's not a good comparison though - this is the highest level of GAA competition in the biggest stadium in the country - a comparison with a big match in the Aviva would be more suitable. I don't think you'd see this happening in that scenario.

Or maybe the media are complicit in hiding it from television viewers in the Aviva as well as in Croke as someone suggested.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 04, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
Only just saw the McHugh incident and whilst I don't agree with what he said - I'm coming at it from a different angle.

That puke des Cahill showed up his unprofessionalism. As the anchor he had no need to jump in and tell his panelists what he thought of mc highs analysis - he sould of let McStay and earley deal with it. Which they tried to but where overpowered by Cahill the attention seeker!

He's useless at this job!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 05, 2014, 01:20:16 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 04, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
Only just saw the McHugh incident and whilst I don't agree with what he said - I'm coming at it from a different angle.

That puke des Cahill showed up his unprofessionalism. As the anchor he had no need to jump in and tell his panelists what he thought of mc highs analysis - he sould of let McStay and earley deal with it. Which they tried to but where overpowered by Cahill the attention seeker!

He's useless at this job!!!!

He's no Bill O'Herilihy!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on August 05, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
QuoteJust watched last nights Sunday game and all I can say is that Martin McHugh is some pup. Either he is a complete wind up merchant or he seriously has no clue about GAA. To call the gooch a two trick pony is as daft as I've heard.
Do any of you notice that he rarely answers what he's asked and simply says "It's interesting,, if ya look at it..." and then makes some random off the wall statement about his view or he was chatting so and so (name drop, name drop). His analysis is appalling.. but his wild statements were entertaining at least. Is he trying to join the outlandish Spillane and Brolly circus?

I'm not in a position to judge the quality of his analysis, as I find it very difficult to make out what he is saying ... a mumble, jumble most of the time.  RTE need to take a long, hard look at what passes as an analyst on these shows.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on August 05, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
You sound like you will be scarred for life ,take_yer_points ,after witnessing Goold having a piss.

No, not scarred for life at all - far from it. I think it's a very strange thing to do on a football pitch, particularly when the match is live on TV and with tens of thousands of people in attendance. It's been a pet hate for years and have seen numerous people do it in club matches but never at that level.

I also find it strange that so many people think it's ok.

Why post a massive picture of it though?

Why not post a picture on the board? It's not like I took a sneaky picture when nobody knew i was doing it - it's a still picture taken from a live television broadcast. I used the picture to provide an example of something that's been a pet hate for years and to stimulate some discussion.

Someone mentioned seeing this in junior soccer previously. That's not a good comparison though - this is the highest level of GAA competition in the biggest stadium in the country - a comparison with a big match in the Aviva would be more suitable. I don't think you'd see this happening in that scenario.

Or maybe the media are complicit in hiding it from television viewers in the Aviva as well as in Croke as someone suggested.

You posted a picture and called the player a dirtbag you arsehole. You patently obviously have never been on a pitch on your life if you dont know that this doesnt happen at every sporting venue in the world across all codes.

You were claiming you pulled team mates for this in the past. Musta been in the park when someone attempted to piss on your jersey which was being used as goalpost cause in any sort of a serious game if someone started berating a teammate for having a piss they'd soon be told to shut the f**k up and focus on something serious, like for instance the game theyre about to play!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Msgr. Horan on August 05, 2014, 10:56:48 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on August 05, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
QuoteJust watched last nights Sunday game and all I can say is that Martin McHugh is some pup. Either he is a complete wind up merchant or he seriously has no clue about GAA. To call the gooch a two trick pony is as daft as I've heard.
Do any of you notice that he rarely answers what he's asked and simply says "It's interesting,, if ya look at it..." and then makes some random off the wall statement about his view or he was chatting so and so (name drop, name drop). His analysis is appalling.. but his wild statements were entertaining at least. Is he trying to join the outlandish Spillane and Brolly circus?

I'm not in a position to judge the quality of his analysis, as I find it very difficult to make out what he is saying ... a mumble, jumble most of the time.  RTE need to take a long, hard look at what passes as an analyst on these shows.
"This coleslaw has cheese in it"
Callanan does him great in fairness
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 05, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on August 05, 2014, 10:34:54 AM
QuoteJust watched last nights Sunday game and all I can say is that Martin McHugh is some pup. Either he is a complete wind up merchant or he seriously has no clue about GAA. To call the gooch a two trick pony is as daft as I've heard.
Do any of you notice that he rarely answers what he's asked and simply says "It's interesting,, if ya look at it..." and then makes some random off the wall statement about his view or he was chatting so and so (name drop, name drop). His analysis is appalling.. but his wild statements were entertaining at least. Is he trying to join the outlandish Spillane and Brolly circus?

I'm not in a position to judge the quality of his analysis, as I find it very difficult to make out what he is saying ... a mumble, jumble most of the time.  RTE need to take a long, hard look at what passes as an analyst on these shows.
McHugh doesn't answer the question, he rambles incoherently about some other point, with no sentence structure, no beginning, no middle but there is an end, that's when he just gets stuck someplace and stops. 
But that's not what annoys me, it's that he's so insecure with himself that he feels compelled to put others down that he has to work into his ramblings some unconnected sarcastic jibe. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 04, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
Only just saw the McHugh incident and whilst I don't agree with what he said - I'm coming at it from a different angle.

That puke des Cahill showed up his unprofessionalism. As the anchor he had no need to jump in and tell his panelists what he thought of mc highs analysis - he sould of let McStay and earley deal with it. Which they tried to but where overpowered by Cahill the attention seeker!

He's useless at this job!!!!

Agree with this on Cahill. He is not there to offer an opinion and a good anchor would have provoked a debate amongst the other analysts. I didn't agree with what McHugh said but that wasn't for Cahill to pass judgement on. He is no Bill O'Herlihy or indeed Michael Lyster.

I wouldn't say he is USELESS at his job but he is definitely brave and fond of himself and should stay out of offering his own opinion when its not his job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Cahill courts controversy for a few headlines. That's what he was at with Eamon O'Hara and he tried it on Donal Og. You could see the beaming smile on him when McHugh said this as if "yes we've got a headline".

He seems more of the mould of tabloid anchor - get me a headline - and not a man who will engage debate.

McHugh, Splllane and Brolly shouldn't be near the roles they're in. Tomas O'Se is good - not so sure about Earley yet - and to be honest McStay isn't too bad despite sounding a bit whiny...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Cahill courts controversy for a few headlines. That's what he was at with Eamon O'Hara and he tried it on Donal Og. You could see the beaming smile on him when McHugh said this as if "yes we've got a headline".

He seems more of the mould of tabloid anchor - get me a headline - and not a man who will engage debate.

McHugh, Splllane and Brolly shouldn't be near the roles they're in. Tomas O'Se is good - not so sure about Earley yet - and to be honest McStay isn't too bad despite sounding a bit whiny...

Yeah, Cahill does do smugness very well. Tomas O'Se is the best addition for a while in terms of pundits, I think he is more in tune with the average GAA supporter than most other fellows who are only interested in their own self publicity and egos. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on August 05, 2014, 01:01:20 PM
The Sunday Game is laughably inept. There were 3 major bloopers - got the Monaghan championship record badly badly wrong, the Mallon brothers thing was cringeworthy (McHugh could really have embarrassed them if he had spoke up), and McHugh's spake on Cooper was absurd. If he has two tricks (whatever that means) they're two very decent tricks. 

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mackers on August 05, 2014, 01:24:01 PM
In fairness Ciaran Whelan is very good too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 05, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
Eh? Peter Cavanan and Darragh O'Se? Two of the best footballers of the past quarter century?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zip Code on August 05, 2014, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 04, 2014, 08:20:18 PM
You sound like you will be scarred for life ,take_yer_points ,after witnessing Goold having a piss.

No, not scarred for life at all - far from it. I think it's a very strange thing to do on a football pitch, particularly when the match is live on TV and with tens of thousands of people in attendance. It's been a pet hate for years and have seen numerous people do it in club matches but never at that level.

I also find it strange that so many people think it's ok.

Why post a massive picture of it though?

Why not post a picture on the board? It's not like I took a sneaky picture when nobody knew i was doing it - it's a still picture taken from a live television broadcast. I used the picture to provide an example of something that's been a pet hate for years and to stimulate some discussion.

Someone mentioned seeing this in junior soccer previously. That's not a good comparison though - this is the highest level of GAA competition in the biggest stadium in the country - a comparison with a big match in the Aviva would be more suitable. I don't think you'd see this happening in that scenario.

Or maybe the media are complicit in hiding it from television viewers in the Aviva as well as in Croke as someone suggested.

You obviously went out of your way to be offended, posting the picture on a message board which has no age restrictions for people joining is more offensive in my opinion.  You must have little to be worried about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2014, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Cahill courts controversy for a few headlines. That's what he was at with Eamon O'Hara and he tried it on Donal Og. You could see the beaming smile on him when McHugh said this as if "yes we've got a headline".

He seems more of the mould of tabloid anchor - get me a headline - and not a man who will engage debate.

McHugh, Splllane and Brolly shouldn't be near the roles they're in. Tomas O'Se is good - not so sure about Earley yet - and to be honest McStay isn't too bad despite sounding a bit whiny...

Yeah, Cahill does do smugness very well. Tomas O'Se is the best addition for a while in terms of pundits, I think he is more in tune with the average GAA supporter than most other fellows who are only interested in their own self publicity and egos.

O'Se has also been screwed by "trial by tv" on the sunday game so I think that makes it quite interesting. (I think it was Limerick in a munster final)

Ciaran Whelan has also possibly been??

The two seem reluctant to court controversy on incidents.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 05, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2014, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Cahill courts controversy for a few headlines. That's what he was at with Eamon O'Hara and he tried it on Donal Og. You could see the beaming smile on him when McHugh said this as if "yes we've got a headline".

He seems more of the mould of tabloid anchor - get me a headline - and not a man who will engage debate.

McHugh, Splllane and Brolly shouldn't be near the roles they're in. Tomas O'Se is good - not so sure about Earley yet - and to be honest McStay isn't too bad despite sounding a bit whiny...

Yeah, Cahill does do smugness very well. Tomas O'Se is the best addition for a while in terms of pundits, I think he is more in tune with the average GAA supporter than most other fellows who are only interested in their own self publicity and egos.

O'Se has also been screwed by "trial by tv" on the sunday game so I think that makes it quite interesting. (I think it was Limerick in a munster final)

Ciaran Whelan has also possibly been??

The two seem reluctant to court controversy on incidents.

Im surprised Enda McGinley hasnt been used more by some of the TV stations, hew as excellent the couple of times he appeared on BBC.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 05, 2014, 03:22:31 PM
Apart from Whelo and Tomás......Oisín McConville would be up there with the fresh news faces talkin a bit of sense and giving real insight into the game. He's used quite a bit on RTE radio and I think he is excellent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on August 05, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
I cannot stand Oisins voice! McGinley is a good shout, liked him on BBC.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 05, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
Funny how a bit of bias can change your perspective on things.

I usually really enjoy Brolly, especially when he's taking the mick out of Spillane and O'Rourke.
But I didnt enjoy at all the way he tried to undermine and belittle Whelan for refusing to write off Galway at half time v Kerry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 05, 2014, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 03:05:35 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on August 04, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 03, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Brian & Andy Mallon brothers! Jesus wept.

I was pishing myself at that!

Speaking of pishing yourself, has this been mentioned anywhere since yesterday??


Take that down, you eejit.

Have you considered that his family may well see it here?

Your supposed outrage at the offence to public taste doesn't tally with going to the trouble of clipping it from the TV coverage, blowing it up to full screen size and posting it on a public forum. If you were really outraged, you would surely not want to look at it, never mind further offend by making it available for all to see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 05, 2014, 03:54:01 PM
A lot more than his family saw it on TV :o

The genie was out of that particular bottle the moment the producer fell asleep at the controls.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 05, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
We have no control over what RTÉ show. And an inadvertent, fleeting half-second, probably missed by most and never again to be seen is a world away from lovingly clipping and processing it to be shown in close-up here. Weird and insensitive carry on in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 05, 2014, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 05, 2014, 04:47:11 PM
We have no control over what RTÉ show. And an inadvertent, fleeting half-second, probably missed by most and never again to be seen is a world away from lovingly clipping and processing it to be shown in close-up here. Weird and insensitive carry on in my opinion.

It was longer than half a second it seemed to be at least 4/5... I don't understand the outrage though people need to have a bit of cop on is it really that big a deal??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 05, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
I genuinely don't understand why someone would go out of their way to:
a) rewind and pause the footage
b) take a picture of their telly
and
c) share the image on the internet

To highlight that some dirtbag took a piss in the middle of Croke park and it was caught on live television. What's so difficult to understand?

Some dirtbag? You serious? How many pre Cship huddles have you been in mate? It's the done thing, across many team sports. Anyone who would question this kinda sounds like an old Aunty who thinks shes discovered something knew, as everyone else rolls their eyes.

It would fit you better to use your editing skills and cut and paste Martin McHughs head on the top of that mans willy!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 05, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Be thankful TYP has never seen the famous Gary Linenker incident, he'd have it plastered all over the board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 05, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Be thankful TYP has never seen the famous Gary Linenker incident, he'd have it plastered all over the board.

Seen it surely - I think you'll have no bother finding you tubes of it never mind images.

Took the photo down - didn't think there'd be a problem posting an image of something that was on the tele.

My point still stands - I think it's an awful practice that I've seen on numerous occasions but this is the first time I've seen it at that level.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Its just another example of some peoples determination to be outraged and offended at the smallest thing possible. If you've never witnessed it on a football field before then your either a liar or blind. It doesn't look great in the middle of GAA headquarters and they deserve a fine, but there are more important things going on than to over hype something as trivial.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Its just another example of some peoples determination to be outraged and offended at the smallest thing possible. If you've never witnessed it on a football field before then your either a liar or blind. It doesn't look great in the middle of GAA headquarters and they deserve a fine, but there are more important things going on than to over hype something as trivial.

You did see the bit if my post that said I've seen it before but never at that level?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 05, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2014, 06:14:33 PM
Right, yis have ripped the piss out of this now.

I agree, it is only a piddling little thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2014, 06:19:17 PM
No more cocks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Its just another example of some peoples determination to be outraged and offended at the smallest thing possible. If you've never witnessed it on a football field before then your either a liar or blind. It doesn't look great in the middle of GAA headquarters and they deserve a fine, but there are more important things going on than to over hype something as trivial.

You did see the bit if my post that said I've seen it before but never at that level?

I'm not ready to trawl through every single post but I get the jist of what your saying. To label a man a sc**bag for pissing on a field is way ott and out of order. Its not great looking and I think it should be punishable with a fine but there is no for name calling. If your team-mate had done the same in a pre-match huddle would you call him a sc**bag to his face?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Its just another example of some peoples determination to be outraged and offended at the smallest thing possible. If you've never witnessed it on a football field before then your either a liar or blind. It doesn't look great in the middle of GAA headquarters and they deserve a fine, but there are more important things going on than to over hype something as trivial.

You did see the bit if my post that said I've seen it before but never at that level?

I'm not ready to trawl through every single post but I get the jist of what your saying. To label a man a sc**bag for pissing on a field is way ott and out of order. Its not great looking and I think it should be punishable with a fine but there is no for name calling. If your team-mate had done the same in a pre-match huddle would you call him a sc**bag to his face?

You obviously haven't read the posts - sc**bag was not mentioned
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Its just another example of some peoples determination to be outraged and offended at the smallest thing possible. If you've never witnessed it on a football field before then your either a liar or blind. It doesn't look great in the middle of GAA headquarters and they deserve a fine, but there are more important things going on than to over hype something as trivial.

You did see the bit if my post that said I've seen it before but never at that level?

I'm not ready to trawl through every single post but I get the jist of what your saying. To label a man a sc**bag for pissing on a field is way ott and out of order. Its not great looking and I think it should be punishable with a fine but there is no for name calling. If your team-mate had done the same in a pre-match huddle would you call him a sc**bag to his face?

You obviously haven't read the posts - sc**bag was not mentioned

Dirtbag then, you know full well what I'm on about no need to play about with words. Would you pull up your own clubman and call him a dirtbag if you seen it happening?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:41:53 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
Its just another example of some peoples determination to be outraged and offended at the smallest thing possible. If you've never witnessed it on a football field before then your either a liar or blind. It doesn't look great in the middle of GAA headquarters and they deserve a fine, but there are more important things going on than to over hype something as trivial.

You did see the bit if my post that said I've seen it before but never at that level?

I'm not ready to trawl through every single post but I get the jist of what your saying. To label a man a sc**bag for pissing on a field is way ott and out of order. Its not great looking and I think it should be punishable with a fine but there is no for name calling. If your team-mate had done the same in a pre-match huddle would you call him a sc**bag to his face?

You obviously haven't read the posts - sc**bag was not mentioned

Dirtbag then, you know full well what I'm on about no need to play about with words. Would you pull up your own clubman and call him a dirtbag if you seen it happening?

I've pulled up team mates on it before. My point is I think it's poor form on any pitch, but moreso in front of so many people and where there's tv cameras
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 05, 2014, 06:52:41 PM
Being watched by people who will go to the trouble of rewinding, pausing, taking a picture etc.
This was the hot topic on the Ray Darcy show today and was also a big story in the mirror I think.
That's the sort of company you're keeping here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 05, 2014, 07:26:36 PM
Portaloos  on the sideline. Problem solved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: crossfire on August 05, 2014, 10:30:20 PM
TYP,  you are a Tool. ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on August 05, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
It's no wonder Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke have lasted so long when the new crew include lads like Whelan and Early. Two spoofers who were fond of using their elbows on the pitch. Tomás is ok but his brother is better, apart from that their all poor. McHugh is a joke, at least Davis is gone but they could do with bringing back Tohill and finding a few new knowledgeable heads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 05, 2014, 10:40:21 PM
Quote from: Dont Matter on August 05, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
It's no wonder Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke have lasted so long when the new crew include lads like Whelan and Early. Two spoofers who were fond of using their elbows on the pitch. Tomás is ok but his brother is better, apart from that their all poor. McHugh is a joke, at least Davis is gone but they could do with bringing back Tohill and finding a few new knowledgeable heads.

You're some tool.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dont Matter on August 06, 2014, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 05, 2014, 10:40:21 PM
You're some tool.

What's your problem?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 06, 2014, 10:41:08 AM
Quote from: take_yer_points on August 05, 2014, 06:06:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 05, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Be thankful TYP has never seen the famous Gary Linenker incident, he'd have it plastered all over the board.

Took the photo down


Good man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 06, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: Dont Matter on August 05, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
It's no wonder Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke have lasted so long when the new crew include lads like Whelan and Early. Two spoofers who were fond of using their elbows on the pitch. Tomás is ok but his brother is better, apart from that their all poor. McHugh is a joke, at least Davis is gone but they could do with bringing back Tohill and finding a few new knowledgeable heads.

We wont be getting any lads from Laois on the panel...................... Neanderthals, Parkinson is un-presentable for the t.v
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 06, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 06, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: Dont Matter on August 05, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
It's no wonder Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke have lasted so long when the new crew include lads like Whelan and Early. Two spoofers who were fond of using their elbows on the pitch. Tomás is ok but his brother is better, apart from that their all poor. McHugh is a joke, at least Davis is gone but they could do with bringing back Tohill and finding a few new knowledgeable heads.

We wont be getting any lads from Laois on the panel...................... Neanderthals, Parkinson is un-presentable for the t.v

lol Would rather see someone casually dressed giving good analysis - Mugsy and O'Hara should not be used due to crimes against Irish Fashion!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 06, 2014, 04:23:08 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 06, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 06, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
Quote from: Dont Matter on August 05, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
It's no wonder Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke have lasted so long when the new crew include lads like Whelan and Early. Two spoofers who were fond of using their elbows on the pitch. Tomás is ok but his brother is better, apart from that their all poor. McHugh is a joke, at least Davis is gone but they could do with bringing back Tohill and finding a few new knowledgeable heads.

We wont be getting any lads from Laois on the panel...................... Neanderthals, Parkinson is un-presentable for the t.v

lol Would rather see someone casually dressed giving good analysis - Mugsy and O'Hara should not be used due to crimes against Irish Fashion!

Mugsy is good crack all the same and Eamon keeps the women viewers happy ........................... get rid of Brolly though hes turned to poison
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 10, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
Brolly and Whelan up next
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on August 10, 2014, 11:55:49 PM

Brolly looks unwell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 11, 2014, 12:01:09 AM
Dublin can barely conceal their surprise at how easy this year is going. Jim's post match interview was funny - him and Philly Mc - Jim saying the 7 day turnaround had a big bearing and Philly MC saying what good players Monaghan have, having played them in Sigerson Cup.
Dublin are just getting stronger and stronger and their game is so easy on the eye.

Hats off to them. The rest will just have to work harder ( if that's possible ).

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2014, 12:05:35 AM
Quote from: orangeman on August 11, 2014, 12:01:09 AM
Dublin can barely conceal their surprise at how easy this year is going. Jim's post match interview was funny - him and Philly Mc - Jim saying the 7 day turnaround had a big bearing and Philly MC saying what good players Monaghan have, having played them in Sigerson Cup.
Dublin are just getting stronger and stronger and their game is so easy on the eye.

Hats off to them. The rest will just have to work harder ( if that's possible ).

Because everyone switches off after 20 minutes? It's more unwatchable than the most dour of Ulster struggles. If I wanted to see snuff films I wouldn't be watching RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 11, 2014, 12:23:06 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Haven't seen it yet, but what is Gavin supposed to say? He's either going to be perceived as arrogant or patronizing, depending on how honest he is. He can't win either way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 12:28:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Lookit, you can't expect every county manager to give great post-match interviews.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 11, 2014, 12:33:55 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 12:28:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Lookit, you can't expect every county manager to give great post-match interviews.

Grimley's was excellent. Making up for lost time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on August 11, 2014, 12:43:20 AM
I'm totally biased of course but Gavin really does my head in with his almost saint like attitude like butter would never melt in his mouth and Brolly licking his ar$e again tonight saying how he want his players not only  to be good footballers but nice guys as well. Give me a bucket

What about the time he was caught with all the stolen mobiles and vodafone pulled the plug for AIG to join the fun?
(http://c3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/07/jim-gavin-372013-390x285.jpg)
:o :o :o :o :o

I'd say the next game they won't be so saintly as they play yet another non Div 1 team.
We'll see who is the real Jimmy is when it's put up to them for 35 mins this time?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whitnail on August 11, 2014, 01:16:43 AM
Because of his profession. I think Joe has an obsessive  (almost petty) articulate & meticulous mind.
Everything to him is a puzzle that simply HAS to be worked out.
I think the only real enjoyment he gets out of life is explaining how each puzzle and trick was achieved , how he  unlocked it and. possible scenarios where said trick or tactic may not of worked effectively. Before he knows it he's 5/6 steps ahead of the original question or topic.

Its great in small doses I think but it's a bit sickening in large ones cause it doesn't give other honest pundits a chance to even have an opinion cause Joe has already worked it all out for them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 11, 2014, 01:46:28 AM
Quote from: Whitnail on August 11, 2014, 01:16:43 AM
Because of his profession. I think Joe has an obsessive  (almost petty) articulate & meticulous mind.
Everything to him is a puzzle that simply HAS to be worked out.
I think the only real enjoyment he gets out of life is explaining how each puzzle and trick was achieved , how he  unlocked it and. possible scenarios where said trick or tactic may not of worked effectively. Before he knows it he's 5/6 steps ahead of the original question or topic.

Its great in small doses I think but it's a bit sickening in large ones cause it doesn't give other honest pundits a chance to even have an opinion cause Joe has already worked it all out for them.

Or maybe he's just a bluffer, whose knowledge of the modern game is actually very weak but he talks in such a convincing, loud and arrogant fashion that people believe what he is saying.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 11, 2014, 02:19:22 AM
Quote from: Whitnail on August 11, 2014, 01:16:43 AM
Because of his profession. I think Joe has an obsessive  (almost petty) articulate & meticulous mind.
Everything to him is a puzzle that simply HAS to be worked out.
I think the only real enjoyment he gets out of life is explaining how each puzzle and trick was achieved , how he  unlocked it and. possible scenarios where said trick or tactic may not of worked effectively. Before he knows it he's 5/6 steps ahead of the original question or topic.

Its great in small doses I think but it's a bit sickening in large ones cause it doesn't give other honest pundits a chance to even have an opinion cause Joe has already worked it all out for them.

This is a particularly profound analysis.

But it needs to be said that Joe insists on solving problems (puzzles) that only he has.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the Deel Rover on August 11, 2014, 09:18:17 AM
Was driving on saturday so turned on the radio to listen to the match on Radio 1 when low and behold who was co commentator but Joe Brolly . Straight away my heart went out to the commentator , how the hell was he going to get a word in with Joe the barrister beside him. And so it turned out i didn't know what the hell was goin on as Joe had to be listening to the sound of his own voice. I had to turn it off it was unbearable. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD RTE KEEP HIM OFF THE RADIO PLEASE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 09:34:51 AM
I think we have reached 'Peak Joe'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 11, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 09:34:51 AM
I think we have reached 'Peak Joe'.

Agreed, he totally patronises every other pundit and in his own mind he is the only person who understands modern day tactics. Personally I think he doesn't really have a clue what is going on around how teams organise their defences. He was also totally out of order re the throwing of e Donegal doctor to the ground. That was indefensible even though the doctor shouldn't have been on the pitch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2014, 10:22:08 AM
He ruffled Des Cahill's feathers a bit last night over the team doctor incident. First time I've ever seen Des look a bit flustered.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 11, 2014, 10:24:45 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 12:28:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Lookit, you can't expect every county manager to give great post-match interviews.

;D  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 11, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
He was also totally out of order re the throwing of e Donegal doctor to the ground. That was indefensible even though the doctor shouldn't have been on the pitch.

Brolly didn't "defend" pushing the doctor, he didn't criticise the ref for giving the yellow card, but he correctly objected to Des trying to hype it up to the "controversy" of the week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2014, 10:47:45 AM
Yeah for once I agreed with Brolly. The doctor was in and was pushing the armagh guy too - I think he was just sick listening to him so pushed him to get rid of him. Shouldn't have been there.

Des trying to create controversy as usual.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StephenC on August 11, 2014, 10:48:47 AM
The doctor thing was a complete non incident and I would have much preferred to see some more of the games. In fact all the stuff in the Donegal Armagh game was just pushing and shoving. Eamonn McGee and Grimley were even at it, but there was a great picture doing the rounds last night showing the two of them walking off the pitch with arms around shoulders. They left it on the pitch - other counties could take note.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on August 11, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
I was watching last night and was wondering who Des would have on as I was switching between the golf and this.
Once I saw it was these two I told the wife there'll be fireworks cos last week Whelan seemed to have in it for Brolly and kept challenging him and saying hold on hold on like Joe usually does.

So after they had the wee row about the doctor and then went for a break, when they came back they showed this shot.
(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp6/fuzzman1/BrollyandFriend2.jpg)

Apparently that doctor though isn't the most likeable character in Donegal either as a few people I know said it couldn't have happened to a better man. Is that the same doctor I wonder who said McBrearty had a bite mark from the Dubs match last year.
Come on now. We all know the Dubs would never stoop to such a level.  :-X

It will be interesting to see how long Joe stays on the side of the Dubs. I mean he no doubt loves the publicity and being on RTE and getting the preferencial treatment it has brought him is so Joe.
I met him and Jimmy Magee in the Hogan stand premium reception on Sat and he was on cloud 9. Usually he'd stop and chat.
I just feel it's all gonna end badly for him with RTE as he doesn't have the respect for his hosts and fellow pundits. You can't be talking over people all the time and telling them to HAWL ON and put your hands up over their face to get them to stop talking.

Have to say though I've gone right off Whelan as well this year but of course the Dublin world takeover is in full swing and RTE control what is said and not said.

I was hoping Joe was gonna say last night that fans are bored already with Dub games and no neutral wants to see them
Talking to a lot of Donegal fans on Sat and before the game they couldn't wait to get a shot at the Dubs. Afterwards many left early saying they don't know should they bother making the long journey down to get hammered. Spending loads of money for to see 35 mins of pain.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 11, 2014, 12:44:08 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on August 11, 2014, 09:18:17 AM
Was driving on saturday so turned on the radio to listen to the match on Radio 1 when low and behold who was co commentator but Joe Brolly . Straight away my heart went out to the commentator , how the hell was he going to get a word in with Joe the barrister beside him. And so it turned out i didn't know what the hell was goin on as Joe had to be listening to the sound of his own voice. I had to turn it off it was unbearable. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD RTE KEEP HIM OFF THE RADIO PLEASE.

Pauraic Lodge was commentating, or trying to anyway. Infuriating what Brolly was up to, if that isn't his last gig on the radio someone in RTE deserves a right kick up the hole.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Much better than the shite Horan comes out with
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 11, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Much better than the shite Horan comes out with

I think its more the manner of what Gavin says not what he is saying! Almost like 'We're so good - I'm so smug but I'm not saying that'
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:51:36 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 11, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:46:32 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2014, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Why is Joe allowed to ramble on endlessly??

In fairness, he rubbished Galvin's rubbish interview after the game. It was pure patronising rubbish. Then again Galvin has a difficult problem trying to be diplomatic to the opposition these days.

Much better than the shite Horan comes out with

I think its more the manner of what Gavin says not what he is saying! Almost like 'We're so good - I'm so smug but I'm not saying that'

Perhaps thats just his tone and the way he speaks ...................................................what is he supposed to say, I propose a media ban !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 11, 2014, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 11, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
He was also totally out of order re the throwing of e Donegal doctor to the ground. That was indefensible even though the doctor shouldn't have been on the pitch.

Brolly didn't "defend" pushing the doctor, he didn't criticise the ref for giving the yellow card, but he correctly objected to Des trying to hype it up to the "controversy" of the week.

If there's one thing Brolly can't stand is hyping something to cause controversy.  ::) Is this not the sole basis of his punditry?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 11, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2014, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 11, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
He was also totally out of order re the throwing of e Donegal doctor to the ground. That was indefensible even though the doctor shouldn't have been on the pitch.

Brolly didn't "defend" pushing the doctor, he didn't criticise the ref for giving the yellow card, but he correctly objected to Des trying to hype it up to the "controversy" of the week.

If there's one thing Brolly can't stand is hyping something to cause controversy.  ::) Is this not the sole basis of his punditry?

Yes, but he gets to chose the issue of controversy!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 11, 2014, 01:55:29 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 11, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2014, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 11, 2014, 10:43:07 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 11, 2014, 10:06:16 AM
He was also totally out of order re the throwing of e Donegal doctor to the ground. That was indefensible even though the doctor shouldn't have been on the pitch.

Brolly didn't "defend" pushing the doctor, he didn't criticise the ref for giving the yellow card, but he correctly objected to Des trying to hype it up to the "controversy" of the week.

If there's one thing Brolly can't stand is hyping something to cause controversy.  ::) Is this not the sole basis of his punditry?

Yes, but he gets to chose the issue of controversy!

Yes, that's true.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on August 11, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
He's been full of praise for the Dubs this year but it will be interesting to see who he wants to win the next time.
I think he's head says the Dubs as he loves the open football style and the squeaky clean (non (proven)biting) no cheating, diving, cynical Dubs but at the same time he loves controversy and I think he'd be delighted if Donegal caused a massive upset as well. No doubt he will be on the winning side no matter what

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
The hurling analysis is much more informative and interesting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 11, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:51:36 PM

Perhaps thats just his tone and the way he speaks ...................................................what is he supposed to say, I propose a media ban !!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps - I don't know the man but I suspect he doesn't -  if he does its bound to irritate the life out of family and friends!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 11, 2014, 04:02:37 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 11, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:51:36 PM

Perhaps thats just his tone and the way he speaks ...................................................what is he supposed to say, I propose a media ban !!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps - I don't know the man but I suspect he doesn't -  if he does its bound to irritate the life out of family and friends!

For someone who doesn't know the man it hasn't prevented you from making some snide personal remarks about him. I wonder how would you come across on television.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 04:04:05 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 11, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
He's been full of praise for the Dubs this year but it will be interesting to see who he wants to win the next time.
I think he's head says the Dubs as he loves the open football style and the squeaky clean (non (proven)biting) no cheating, diving, cynical Dubs but at the same time he loves controversy and I think he'd be delighted if Donegal caused a massive upset as well. No doubt he will be on the winning side no matter what

Philip Jordan-  with the stink of that bitterness
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
The hurling analysis is much more informative and interesting.

Thats if you like talking about inches and half a foot according to Donal Og on the Sunday Game last night  :-*
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 11, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 11, 2014, 04:02:37 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 11, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 12:51:36 PM

Perhaps thats just his tone and the way he speaks ...................................................what is he supposed to say, I propose a media ban !!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps - I don't know the man but I suspect he doesn't -  if he does its bound to irritate the life out of family and friends!

For someone who doesn't know the man it hasn't prevented you from making some snide personal remarks about him. I wonder how would you come across on television.   

THIB - I don't mean to hurt poor Jims feelings so I apologise to you!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: jr on August 11, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
I think Brollies comments about O Rourke before the Kerry/Galway were way out of line.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 12, 2014, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 11, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 11, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
The hurling analysis is much more informative and interesting.

Thats if you like talking about inches and half a foot according to Donal Og on the Sunday Game last night  :-*

I can't see that being right, surely there's a set height for all cross bars in this day and age!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2014, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: jr on August 11, 2014, 11:20:27 PM
I think Brollies comments about O Rourke before the Kerry/Galway were way out of line.

I thought they were despicable Colm.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 05:12:26 PM
  Would love to see RTE dropping Brolly.

Due  to his treatment of others on the panels  I have very little respect for him

What he said to O'Rourke on national TV re his financial situation was an absolute disgrace.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 12, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 05:12:26 PM
  Would love to see RTE dropping Brolly.

Due  to his treatment of others on the panels  I have very little respect for him

What he said to O'Rourke on national TV re his financial situation was an absolute disgrace.

What did he say? ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
You can't drop Brolly! Sure he is the only Northern panelist. Who will defend the 'War of attrition' games of the Ulster Championship? He has more bite than Whelan, Mulligan and Earley.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 06:40:40 PM
Replace him with someone who will let others have their say and who does not broadcast another panelist's private affairs to the watching thousands.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2014, 06:41:48 PM
What did Brolly say??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: jr on August 12, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
do an internet search & find out for yourself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
http://balls.ie/gaa/video-joe-brollys-dig-colm-orourke-far-belt/

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22sk4w_rec-3_sport (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x22sk4w_rec-3_sport)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 12, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
Out of order. I get the impression joe wants to be a craicster but just isn't  very good at knowing where the line is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
http://balls.ie/gaa/video-joe-brollys-dig-colm-orourke-far-belt/

Seems far less of a thing than I'd been led to believe by posts here.

Maybe took it too far with the second line but that's Joe and the first line was a pretty good zinger that O'Rourke didn't look terribly crestfallen about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 12, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
Out of order. I get the impression joe wants to be a craicster but just isn't  very good at knowing where the line is.

Oh he knows where the line is and is making a living out of it by crossing it. Have to say, the remark was out of order, but it was nice to see smug Colm get one on the chin.

Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
http://balls.ie/gaa/video-joe-brollys-dig-colm-orourke-far-belt/



Seems far less of a thing than I'd been led to believe by posts here.

Maybe took it too far with the second line but that's Joe and the first line was a pretty good zinger that O'Rourke didn't look terribly crestfallen about.




Ah there was an uncomfortable moment just after not on the clip. Seen it in real time and it was a knock out punch to O'Rourke. He was clearly shaken by the remark.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
http://balls.ie/gaa/video-joe-brollys-dig-colm-orourke-far-belt/

Seems far less of a thing than I'd been led to believe by posts here.

Maybe took it too far with the second line but that's Joe and the first line was a pretty good zinger that O'Rourke didn't look terribly crestfallen about.


Firstly, it was O Rourkes own private business and none of Brolly's business whatsoever. He had no right to comment on it even in a private capacity never mind in front of thousands. It is none of my business either yet I had no choice but to hear it. He more or less accused of Rourke of spending tax payers money in Galway. I don't think anyone on the board would appreciate anyone speaking about them like that. This was nothing that should be dismissed lightly. It was an attack on a man's integrity. Disgraceful action.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on August 12, 2014, 08:43:47 PM
He does it time and again - nothing new here.  Years ago he had a thing about Micky Moran, then more recently Sean Cavanagh and Paul Grimley.  He continually belittles and mocks but hey we're all supposed to be thick skinned about these things.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: jr on August 12, 2014, 08:44:09 PM
I agree. Very poor form to talk about a colleague like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
http://balls.ie/gaa/video-joe-brollys-dig-colm-orourke-far-belt/

Seems far less of a thing than I'd been led to believe by posts here.

Maybe took it too far with the second line but that's Joe and the first line was a pretty good zinger that O'Rourke didn't look terribly crestfallen about.


Firstly, it was O Rourkes own private business and none of Brolly's business whatsoever. He had no right to comment on it even in a private capacity never mind in front of thousands. It is none of my business either yet I had no choice but to hear it. He more or less accused of Rourke of spending tax payers money in Galway. I don't think anyone on the board would appreciate anyone speaking about them like that. This was nothing that should be dismissed lightly. It was an attack on a man's integrity. Disgraceful action.

I think he went too far but it was a badly-chosen joke, not an attack on O'Rourke's integrity no more than the stuff that comes out of any would-be comedian's mouth should be taken literally. You'd be rocking back-and-forth in a ball if you went into a comedy night with that attitude.

Bad, but not quite as vicious as you're making out.

I'd accept what Bunker said in that the clip cuts out much of O'Rourke's reaction.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 08:56:31 PM
Well if Colm o Rourke accepts it as a joke I will agree with your point of view then.

Somehow I don't think Colm saw the funny side of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
I agree Gaffer. It's O'Rourke's private business. What it had to do with the game of football, any game of football is beyond me? But it's not about the football with Brolly is it?  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 08:56:31 PM
Well if Colm o Rourke accepts it as a joke I will agree with your point of view then.

Somehow I don't think Colm saw the funny side of it.

If Oliver Callan makes a joke and Paul Galvin gets in a huff does it mean it wasn't a joke? The subject's reaction doesn't decide if it's a joke or not. That has nothing to do with if the joke was in bad taste, that's a separate issue.

The problem here seems to be that the subject was sitting two feet away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 12, 2014, 09:12:26 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
http://balls.ie/gaa/video-joe-brollys-dig-colm-orourke-far-belt/

Seems far less of a thing than I'd been led to believe by posts here.

Maybe took it too far with the second line but that's Joe and the first line was a pretty good zinger that O'Rourke didn't look terribly crestfallen about.


Firstly, it was O Rourkes own private business and none of Brolly's business whatsoever. He had no right to comment on it even in a private capacity never mind in front of thousands. It is none of my business either yet I had no choice but to hear it. He more or less accused of Rourke of spending tax payers money in Galway. I don't think anyone on the board would appreciate anyone speaking about them like that. This was nothing that should be dismissed lightly. It was an attack on a man's integrity. Disgraceful action.

I think he went too far but it was a badly-chosen joke, not an attack on O'Rourke's integrity no more than the stuff that comes out of any would-be comedian's mouth should be taken literally. You'd be rocking back-and-forth in a ball if you went into a comedy night with that attitude.

Bad, but not quite as vicious as you're making out.

I'd accept what Bunker said in that the clip cuts out much of O'Rourke's reaction.

That's the problem with Brolly though, he thinks he's there to be a comedian. The problem with this is that he isn't funny, so his way to get a laugh is to belittle other people. At this stage it's getting tiresome and actually a bit embarrassing watching him desperately try to be controversial week after week. The worse thing is that it is usually personal and never really anything to do with the match he's paid to comment on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 12, 2014, 10:54:27 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
I agree Gaffer. It's O'Rourke's private business. What it had to do with the game of football, any game of football is beyond me? But it's not about the football with Brolly is it?  ::)

I agree. I have zero time for O'Rourke, he's not as bad as the other two but useless nonetheless. Brolly was well out of order bringing up something like that when they're there to "analyse" the game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?

The Mayo-Leitrim rivalry is a strong one, Jinxer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 12, 2014, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?

I remember a time when Meath lads wouldn't even notice that sort of thing, have the whole lot of ye gone soft or what??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 13, 2014, 12:02:35 AM
Much as it annoys me to admit it, i think we all enjoy Brollys views and rants. He is a solid observer of the game but usually goes too far when pointing out weaknesses. However when we see Brolly in the line up for analysis we all secretly are content knowing we are going to be entertained and will get plenty of talking points.
The most popular analysts onRTE have always been outspoken, controversial and blunt.. Martin McHugh tried on all fronts but failed badly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 13, 2014, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: ck on August 13, 2014, 12:02:35 AM
Much as it annoys me to admit it, i think we all enjoy Brollys views and rants. He is a solid observer of the game but usually goes too far when pointing out weaknesses. However when we see Brolly in the line up for analysis we all secretly are content knowing we are going to be entertained and will get plenty of talking points.
The most popular analysts onRTE have always been outspoken, controversial and blunt.. Martin McHugh tried on all fronts but failed badly.

I used to think that.
Now I just find myself tired of how awkward and uneasy the atmosphere is in the studio.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 13, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
I wonder do any of the other analysts like him at all?

Any time I see him he's just patronising everyone else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?

What's with Colm having a go at the Mayo Lads is the answer to your question. There is always a subtle undertone to Colm's analysis when it comes to us. This year was the first time he picked Mayo to beat Galway in the Championship since he started this gig. He had to give in this year as he would look more stupider than last year when he went with them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 13, 2014, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?

What's with Colm having a go at the Mayo Lads is the answer to your question. There is always a subtle undertone to Colm's analysis when it comes to us. This year was the first time he picked Mayo to beat Galway in the Championship since he started this gig. He had to give in this year as he would look more stupider than last year when he went with them.

You actually follow/remember that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 13, 2014, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?

What's with Colm having a go at the Mayo Lads is the answer to your question. There is always a subtle undertone to Colm's analysis when it comes to us. This year was the first time he picked Mayo to beat Galway in the Championship since he started this gig. He had to give in this year as he would look more stupider than last year when he went with them.

You actually follow/remember that?

Yeah, it's been so consistent (him constantly picking Galway, it's a running Joke), that one could not remember it otherwise. If he was picking Mayo here and there it would be harder to remember do you not think? I found last years prediction the funniest. Galway a Division two side with no form who had lost to Sligo and Antrim the year before were expected to beat a team who had reached the AI final. At half time Brolly (who had picked Mayo) could not contain himself at half time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 13, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 13, 2014, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 13, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
What's with all the Mayo lads having a go at Colm?

What's with Colm having a go at the Mayo Lads is the answer to your question. There is always a subtle undertone to Colm's analysis when it comes to us. This year was the first time he picked Mayo to beat Galway in the Championship since he started this gig. He had to give in this year as he would look more stupider than last year when he went with them.

You actually follow/remember that?

Yeah, it's been so consistent (him constantly picking Galway, it's a running Joke), that one could not remember it otherwise. If he was picking Mayo here and there it would be harder to remember do you not think? I found last years prediction the funniest. Galway a Division two side with no form who had lost to Sligo and Antrim the year before were expected to beat a team who had reached the AI final. At half time Brolly (who had picked Mayo) could not contain himself at half time.

Picked Roscommon before the 2011 Connacht final too :'(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 13, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
I'm sure you did likewise Syf ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 13, 2014, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 13, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
I'm sure you did likewise Syf ;)

We can be sure you did, Farr.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on August 13, 2014, 11:27:47 PM
Jinxy, less of the rhetorical questions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on August 13, 2014, 11:36:10 PM
Another example of the titillation and indeed mockery that Rte love to make out of gaelic football.  Great craic though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 13, 2014, 11:41:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2014, 10:40:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 13, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
I'm sure you did likewise Syf ;)

We can be sure you did, Farr.

Touché.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2014, 11:54:49 PM
What about Des Cahill's attempts to make controversy out of nothing about people jeering Cody? I thought the panel handled it very well. The crowd were hardly going to stand in universal applause for him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 18, 2014, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2014, 11:54:49 PM
What about Des Cahill's attempts to make controversy out of nothing about people jeering Cody? I thought the panel handled it very well. The crowd were hardly going to stand in universal applause for him.

Ah it was all in good humour. As Steve Davis used to say when he became popular, he was losing. And asked if he would rather remain popular? He said he'd give anything to be hated again. People hate you when you are a winner. Coady was reveling in that today. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 18, 2014, 12:58:44 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2014, 11:54:49 PM
What about Des Cahill's attempts to make controversy out of nothing about people jeering Cody? I thought the panel handled it very well. The crowd were hardly going to stand in universal applause for him.

He even had his 'troubled' face on as he introduced the piece before the pundits rightly laughed the whole thing off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 18, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Cahill is a tool.

I was in Croke Park and the reaction was of a type that the panto villain gets when he/she enters on stage.

All harmless fun and a diversion from seeing Cork getting bummed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2014, 08:42:02 AM
Cahill wouldn't be out of place writing for a tabloid with his constant attempts to create controversy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 18, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 18, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Cahill is a tool.

Absolutely. another RTÉ as*hole.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 18, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Cahill is a tool.

Absolutely. another RTÉ as*hole.

I used to like him. I thought he was a sort of laid back Cuala hurling sort of a fella. But this word of the day nonsense and trying to be 'controversial' is pissing me off. Is he operating under orders I wonder? The Cody thing was pathetic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 18, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 18, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 18, 2014, 08:32:34 AM
Cahill is a tool.

Absolutely. another RTÉ as*hole.

I used to like him. I thought he was a sort of laid back Cuala hurling sort of a fella. But this word of the day nonsense and trying to be 'controversial' is pissing me off. Is he operating under orders I wonder? The Cody thing was pathetic.

Me too. I used to think he was a kjnda harmless eejit. His "one of the lads" persona seemed just right for some types of sports presentation/commentary situations and he seemed natural and at ease - even to the extent of feeling free to slobber and gurgle his words without self-consciousness. Now he's coming across as a prize tool, always at some sort of awkward angle to the situation as a result of trying too hard to be something, though he's not sure what.

The thing is, he's clearly an enthusiast and if he approached the thing right he could be the answer to the problem of the relentlessly negative football punditry by steering the analysis towards the positive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 11:28:16 AM
Exactly Hardy, that's why I'm wondering if he is acting under orders to 'provoke controversy and debate'. That type of horseshite. On the radio and all he always came across as someone who was really into the games. Now he seems to be trying to load the bullets for lads to take potshots. Luckily Joe Brolly isn't in harness with him. That would be the perfect storm.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 18, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
Definitely under orders and being fed. Rte are failing in their attempts to be controversial and successful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2014, 12:11:37 PM
They don't seem to realise that the hurling punditry is great(and devoid of the self important controversial nonsense) and the football is crap and that is a view held by many as on here illustrates. They will point to viewing figures but I would say I'm far from alone in turning over at half time in the football matches and sky plussing the evening show then fast forwarding over the football punditry.

I would also say he's acting on orders. He's now tried the cody thing, the doctor incident, Eamon O'Hara on Kevin Walsh and then he tried to pull Donal Og into a JBM thing which he spectacularly failed on. They were all poor attempts. Martin McHugh then also played into his hands with the Gooch thing but who really cares as from a few years ago McHugh either looks for attention or doesn't know what he's talking about so isn't worth listening to anyway.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2014, 03:15:11 PM
Hurling punditry great? Too much back-patting on the hurling panel. Everyone's friends with the managers and won't say what they really feel a lot of the times.

Michael Duignan was a caricature yesterday - "that's not a free!" was his sole response to every blindingly obvious foul that the referee missed.

Some people here seem to value cheer-leading over good punditry. Good punditry is neither trying to create a chocolate cake out of a pile of shite or trying to be controversial and negative. It's about honestly commenting on what's transpired in front of you. Tomas O'Se and young Whelo do the best jobs on tv in either code right now. They're RTE football pundits.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on August 18, 2014, 03:45:35 PM
Eddie Brennan is probaly the best pundit out of either codes on Rte. I don't know what the obsession with Whelan is,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.

I prefer the coaching analysis type of punditry rather than the fan style but you're right, the football lads are way too negative. I thought for example, Donal Og's instance that Glesson's puck outs was the greatest display ever was way over the top, while he was good Cork made it very easy. However, if it was the football lads they would have simply hammered Cork for the marking without giving the goalkeeper any real credit for being able to pick out his targets.

I also feel the the like of Spillane and O'Rourke can't analyse a game and highlight anything fresh or unclear to the TV viewer. This is criminal in an age when there is so much new going on in football and there are numerous cameras to highlight it. It should be far easier for football pundits to come up with something interesting and insightful yet they too often fall into the trap of commenting on quality of the spectacle. Yesterday's semi final was a poor game from start to finish yet I don't think anyone mentioned that at all, if it was football the amount of wides, the poor distribution, the poor control and the poor spectacle would have dominated all the analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.

I prefer the coaching analysis type of punditry rather than the fan style but you're right, the football lads are way too negative. I thought for example, Donal Og's instance that Glesson's puck outs was the greatest display ever was way over the top, while he was good Cork made it very easy. However, if it was the football lads they would have simply hammered Cork for the marking without giving the goalkeeper any real credit for being able to pick out his targets.

I also feel the the like of Spillane and O'Rourke can't analyse a game and highlight anything fresh or unclear to the TV viewer. This is criminal in an age when there is so much new going on in football and there are numerous cameras to highlight it. It should be far easier for football pundits to come up with something interesting and insightful yet they too often fall into the trap of commenting on quality of the spectacle. Yesterday's semi final was a poor game from start to finish yet I don't think anyone mentioned that at all, if it was football the amount of wides, the poor distribution, the poor control and the poor spectacle would have dominated all the analysis.

That's it exactly Zulu. The hurling lads were on about the great puckouts (even though they mentioned that the Cork forwards made it way too easy), and on about Callanan's skill in the finishing of the goals etc. Accentuating the positives. If that was a football game, Cork would have been slaughtered, JBM's IQ would be called into question, and the manliness of everyone in Red would have been sneered at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 18, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.

I prefer the coaching analysis type of punditry rather than the fan style but you're right, the football lads are way too negative. I thought for example, Donal Og's instance that Glesson's puck outs was the greatest display ever was way over the top, while he was good Cork made it very easy. However, if it was the football lads they would have simply hammered Cork for the marking without giving the goalkeeper any real credit for being able to pick out his targets.

I also feel the the like of Spillane and O'Rourke can't analyse a game and highlight anything fresh or unclear to the TV viewer. This is criminal in an age when there is so much new going on in football and there are numerous cameras to highlight it. It should be far easier for football pundits to come up with something interesting and insightful yet they too often fall into the trap of commenting on quality of the spectacle. Yesterday's semi final was a poor game from start to finish yet I don't think anyone mentioned that at all, if it was football the amount of wides, the poor distribution, the poor control and the poor spectacle would have dominated all the analysis.

That's it exactly Zulu. The hurling lads were on about the great puckouts (even though they mentioned that the Cork forwards made it way too easy), and on about Callanan's skill in the finishing of the goals etc. Accentuating the positives. If that was a football game, Cork would have been slaughtered, JBM's IQ would be called into question, and the manliness of everyone in Red would have been sneered at.

This is it in a nutshell. Grannies would have been held up as examples of better athletes and skill sets. Images of vomiting and religions with names that sound like bad words would be evoked. And the stereotypes........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 18, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.

I prefer the coaching analysis type of punditry rather than the fan style but you're right, the football lads are way too negative. I thought for example, Donal Og's instance that Glesson's puck outs was the greatest display ever was way over the top, while he was good Cork made it very easy. However, if it was the football lads they would have simply hammered Cork for the marking without giving the goalkeeper any real credit for being able to pick out his targets.

I also feel the the like of Spillane and O'Rourke can't analyse a game and highlight anything fresh or unclear to the TV viewer. This is criminal in an age when there is so much new going on in football and there are numerous cameras to highlight it. It should be far easier for football pundits to come up with something interesting and insightful yet they too often fall into the trap of commenting on quality of the spectacle. Yesterday's semi final was a poor game from start to finish yet I don't think anyone mentioned that at all, if it was football the amount of wides, the poor distribution, the poor control and the poor spectacle would have dominated all the analysis.

That's it exactly Zulu. The hurling lads were on about the great puckouts (even though they mentioned that the Cork forwards made it way too easy), and on about Callanan's skill in the finishing of the goals etc. Accentuating the positives. If that was a football game, Cork would have been slaughtered, JBM's IQ would be called into question, and the manliness of everyone in Red would have been sneered at.

This is it in a nutshell. Grannies would have been held up as examples of better athletes and skill sets. Images of vomiting and religions with names that sound like bad words would be evoked. And the stereotypes........

The hurling pundits don't court controversy and the media attention as much as some of the football pundits, maybe most already have their wee print media gig already, who knows!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 19, 2014, 11:44:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 18, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.

I prefer the coaching analysis type of punditry rather than the fan style but you're right, the football lads are way too negative. I thought for example, Donal Og's instance that Glesson's puck outs was the greatest display ever was way over the top, while he was good Cork made it very easy. However, if it was the football lads they would have simply hammered Cork for the marking without giving the goalkeeper any real credit for being able to pick out his targets.

I also feel the the like of Spillane and O'Rourke can't analyse a game and highlight anything fresh or unclear to the TV viewer. This is criminal in an age when there is so much new going on in football and there are numerous cameras to highlight it. It should be far easier for football pundits to come up with something interesting and insightful yet they too often fall into the trap of commenting on quality of the spectacle. Yesterday's semi final was a poor game from start to finish yet I don't think anyone mentioned that at all, if it was football the amount of wides, the poor distribution, the poor control and the poor spectacle would have dominated all the analysis.

That's it exactly Zulu. The hurling lads were on about the great puckouts (even though they mentioned that the Cork forwards made it way too easy), and on about Callanan's skill in the finishing of the goals etc. Accentuating the positives. If that was a football game, Cork would have been slaughtered, JBM's IQ would be called into question, and the manliness of everyone in Red would have been sneered at.

This is it in a nutshell. Grannies would have been held up as examples of better athletes and skill sets. Images of vomiting and religions with names that sound like bad words would be evoked. And the stereotypes........

The hurling pundits don't court controversy and the media attention as much as some of the football pundits, maybe most already have their wee print media gig already, who knows!
Well Loughnane and Farrell do, but not Brennan nor Sheedy that I know of. Doesn't seem to bother them. And in any case the three wise men on the football side all have their own nixer in Sunday papers but it doesn't stop them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Aye, but a bit of controversy on the Sunday might shift a bit more copy during the week if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I think Donal Og is going down the football route slightly or is at least coming across as the a man who wants desperately to be the one to come up with the 'outside the box' point. He came across like bloody Johnny Cochrane at the OJ trial when he said he wanted to put on record that the Glesson's puck out performance was the greatest ever - 'if it doesn't fit you must acquit'. He also lost the run of himself on the PUC redevelopment, while I agree with much of what he said and supported the strikers at the time, he came across as preachy on the Sunday Game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on August 19, 2014, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I think Donal Og is going down the football route slightly or is at least coming across as the a man who wants desperately to be the one to come up with the 'outside the box' point. He came across like bloody Johnny Cochrane at the OJ trial when he said he wanted to put on record that the Glesson's puck out performance was the greatest ever - 'if it doesn't fit you must acquit'. He also lost the run of himself on the PUC redevelopment, while I agree with much of what he said and supported the strikers at the time, he came across as preachy on the Sunday Game.

Yep I think he is certainly trying to make a name for himself
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on August 19, 2014, 01:00:45 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 19, 2014, 11:44:38 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on August 19, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 18, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 18, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
You have a point Syferus, but if I had to choose one over the other, give me the cheerleading over the grumpy old men shite that the football analysts, on the live game at least, indulge in. To listen to them you'd swear Gaelic Football was a dead or dying sport.

The hurling lads might go overboard at times, but they are more interested in highlighting the skills and the excitement that they genuinely seem to enjoy. That's a much better approach in my eyes. I said it before, the Football analysts try to analyse like a coach would, and show how much they know by bemoaning any perceived lack of skills or whatever. That's not the end of the world in and of itself, but they then (at least one of them does) indulge in the character assassination type stuff which has nothing to do with analysis, and everything to do with a 'look at me, aren't I great' mindset.

The hurling bucks analyse like someone trying to spread the gospel, and I suppose that's what they are doing in a sense. They are analysing like people who actually love the game and want other people to love it. I prefer that.

I prefer the coaching analysis type of punditry rather than the fan style but you're right, the football lads are way too negative. I thought for example, Donal Og's instance that Glesson's puck outs was the greatest display ever was way over the top, while he was good Cork made it very easy. However, if it was the football lads they would have simply hammered Cork for the marking without giving the goalkeeper any real credit for being able to pick out his targets.

I also feel the the like of Spillane and O'Rourke can't analyse a game and highlight anything fresh or unclear to the TV viewer. This is criminal in an age when there is so much new going on in football and there are numerous cameras to highlight it. It should be far easier for football pundits to come up with something interesting and insightful yet they too often fall into the trap of commenting on quality of the spectacle. Yesterday's semi final was a poor game from start to finish yet I don't think anyone mentioned that at all, if it was football the amount of wides, the poor distribution, the poor control and the poor spectacle would have dominated all the analysis.

That's it exactly Zulu. The hurling lads were on about the great puckouts (even though they mentioned that the Cork forwards made it way too easy), and on about Callanan's skill in the finishing of the goals etc. Accentuating the positives. If that was a football game, Cork would have been slaughtered, JBM's IQ would be called into question, and the manliness of everyone in Red would have been sneered at.

This is it in a nutshell. Grannies would have been held up as examples of better athletes and skill sets. Images of vomiting and religions with names that sound like bad words would be evoked. And the stereotypes........

The hurling pundits don't court controversy and the media attention as much as some of the football pundits, maybe most already have their wee print media gig already, who knows!
Well Loughnane and Farrell do, but not Brennan nor Sheedy that I know of. Doesn't seem to bother them. And in any case the three wise men on the football side all have their own nixer in Sunday papers but it doesn't stop them.

Brennan has a column in Sunday Times
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2014, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 19, 2014, 12:59:47 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I think Donal Og is going down the football route slightly or is at least coming across as the a man who wants desperately to be the one to come up with the 'outside the box' point. He came across like bloody Johnny Cochrane at the OJ trial when he said he wanted to put on record that the Glesson's puck out performance was the greatest ever - 'if it doesn't fit you must acquit'. He also lost the run of himself on the PUC redevelopment, while I agree with much of what he said and supported the strikers at the time, he came across as preachy on the Sunday Game.

Yep I think he is certainly trying to make a name for himself

I think it's fair to say Donal Óg already has a name made. He may well be trying to be the 'controversial one', but in fairness he seems to have been that way since he could talk. It's probably why RTE got him on board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 19, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I think Donal Og is going down the football route slightly or is at least coming across as the a man who wants desperately to be the one to come up with the 'outside the box' point. He came across like bloody Johnny Cochrane at the OJ trial when he said he wanted to put on record that the Glesson's puck out performance was the greatest ever - 'if it doesn't fit you must acquit'. He also lost the run of himself on the PUC redevelopment, while I agree with much of what he said and supported the strikers at the time, he came across as preachy on the Sunday Game.

Cusack may be a langer, but he was absolutely spot on in what he said on the stadium issue, no idea how exactly you figure he lost the run of himself. Anyone who has studied the proposed plans would realise he has just pointed out the obvious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 19, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
Exactly

Dublin GAA didn't have to spend €30 million on a stadium, but they get to play in Croke Park all the time.
They spent the money on coaching.

Cork GAA are going to waste €30 million on PUC when they will barely get to play in it and still only have 5 full time coaches.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 19, 2014, 03:03:10 PM
I wouldn't mind but the design looks awful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 19, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
I agree with the fact that some of the SG analysis is OTT and bordering on stand up comedy rather than analysis but if they toned it down would people want that either? Those lads are paid to give strong opinion and to back it up.
Brolly and Spillane are just arrogant whereas the evening crew are much more on the money. As for Cahill, I find him very genuine.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: ck on August 19, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
I agree with the fact that some of the SG analysis is OTT and bordering on stand up comedy rather than analysis but if they toned it down would people want that either? Those lads are paid to give strong opinion and to back it up.
Brolly and Spillane are just arrogant whereas the evening crew are much more on the money. As for Cahill, I find him very genuine.

Who says? I thought they'd be paid to try and highlight interesting tactical elements of the game and explain why things went the way they did. i don't know if you watch soccer, but Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher are good at this. They had a very interesting discussion about 3-5-2 formation and players playing in uncomfortable roles last night. No 'controversy', no hyperbole, just plain, interesting and informative discussion. They have disagreements, but they don't roar 'Howl on, Howl on' at each other.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 19, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I think Donal Og is going down the football route slightly or is at least coming across as the a man who wants desperately to be the one to come up with the 'outside the box' point. He came across like bloody Johnny Cochrane at the OJ trial when he said he wanted to put on record that the Glesson's puck out performance was the greatest ever - 'if it doesn't fit you must acquit'. He also lost the run of himself on the PUC redevelopment, while I agree with much of what he said and supported the strikers at the time, he came across as preachy on the Sunday Game.

Cusack may be a langer, but he was absolutely spot on in what he said on the stadium issue, no idea how exactly you figure he lost the run of himself. Anyone who has studied the proposed plans would realise he has just pointed out the obvious.

I said I agreed with most of what he said in the half a dozen or so words right after the bit you highlighted!! I also said in another thread that Cork don't need to redevelop PUC to the tune of €70million and that 5 GDA's was a disgrace. The point I was making though was Donal Og kept referencing €70 million whereas most of that is not Cork GAA money so it couldn't be spent on anything else. The Cork CB are putting in €10 million and I would use some of that to employ more GDA's for example but the other side of the coin is Cork are getting a €70 million stadium for a €10 million investment. On top of that they would need to redevelop PUC to some degree as it isn't fit for purpose so there is an argument to say we can invest €10 million to get a high quality stadium and concert venue or we can invest a couple of million and have something that isn't up to scratch anyway.

The only reason PUC is being redeveloped is the rugby world cup so Cork are probably doing good business. The centre of excellence is a complete joke though and a county as big as Cork cannot be well served by a single centre of excellence. Better perhaps to up grade/develop some club facilities on the basis that the county teams can access them as they need.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 19, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 05:02:02 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 19, 2014, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 19, 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I think Donal Og is going down the football route slightly or is at least coming across as the a man who wants desperately to be the one to come up with the 'outside the box' point. He came across like bloody Johnny Cochrane at the OJ trial when he said he wanted to put on record that the Glesson's puck out performance was the greatest ever - 'if it doesn't fit you must acquit'. He also lost the run of himself on the PUC redevelopment, while I agree with much of what he said and supported the strikers at the time, he came across as preachy on the Sunday Game.

Cusack may be a langer, but he was absolutely spot on in what he said on the stadium issue, no idea how exactly you figure he lost the run of himself. Anyone who has studied the proposed plans would realise he has just pointed out the obvious.

I said I agreed with most of what he said in the half a dozen or so words right after the bit you highlighted!! I also said in another thread that Cork don't need to redevelop PUC to the tune of €70million and that 5 GDA's was a disgrace. The point I was making though was Donal Og kept referencing €70 million whereas most of that is not Cork GAA money so it couldn't be spent on anything else. The Cork CB are putting in €10 million and I would use some of that to employ more GDA's for example but the other side of the coin is Cork are getting a €70 million stadium for a €10 million investment. On top of that they would need to redevelop PUC to some degree as it isn't fit for purpose so there is an argument to say we can invest €10 million to get a high quality stadium and concert venue or we can invest a couple of million and have something that isn't up to scratch anyway.

The only reason PUC is being redeveloped is the rugby world cup so Cork are probably doing good business. The centre of excellence is a complete joke though and a county as big as Cork cannot be well served by a single centre of excellence. Better perhaps to up grade/develop some club facilities on the basis that the county teams can access them as they need.

Fair enough, we're not so far off in our views so.

The plan for the stadium redevelopment though, have you seen it? They're taking the rotten roof off the current covered stand and just plonking it over on the far side for example...it's pretty damn far from a spanking new €70m stadium we're talking about here. Place needs a facelift no doubt, and fair enough, it's not as if the CCB are going to bankrupt themselves doing it, but the whole thing is very Irish altogether.

Far more importantly, as you mentioned, is the COE issue...2 pitches and a clubhouse is about the size of what's planned as far as I can make out. The site is already horribly congested and in a horrible location and of course, there is not the room to build a proper COE there at all..not that the CCB know what that is of course.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on August 24, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
Marty is obsessed with "passion"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 24, 2014, 10:00:44 PM
"There's real anger out there on social media."  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
It is two huge c**k ups involving Croke Park this year and non GAA events

Garth Brooks
American College football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on August 24, 2014, 10:05:26 PM
Camera and sound all off this week.

And as usual Des can't read sentences from a sheet.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on August 24, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
More Gremlins there again!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2014, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
It is two huge c**k ups involving Croke Park this year and non GAA events

Garth Brooks
American College football
A lot of people are pissed off about Sky as well.

commercial ventures not so popular with the people who actually go to matches 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: saffron sam2 on August 24, 2014, 10:25:15 PM
The co-commentator today didn't have a clue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 24, 2014, 10:54:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 24, 2014, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
It is two huge c**k ups involving Croke Park this year and non GAA events

Garth Brooks
American College football
A lot of people are pissed off about Sky as well.

commercial ventures not so popular with the people who actually go to matches
Look, this is the GAA and this is Ireland. People will find anything to moan about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: panc56 on August 24, 2014, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on August 24, 2014, 10:25:15 PM
The co-commentator today didn't have a clue.
Tommy Carr drives me insane. Failed player , failed manager at inter county level everywhere and made a mess of a decent Westmeath minor team recently. Co commentary and he clearly doesn't know the rules.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 24, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
Who was the co-commentator for the senior game? BRUTAL!! A well spoken man with nice turn of phrase but boy did spoof. (Was it Tommy Carr by any chance) For the sending off he basically said yeah it was a kick and a red card but sure it wasn't too bad so let him stay on. Rules are rules ya lug.

I thought the analysis of the senior game was very good tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 24, 2014, 11:17:58 PM
Quote from: ck on August 24, 2014, 11:04:52 PM
Who was the co-commentator for the senior game? BRUTAL!! A well spoken man with nice turn of phrase but boy did spoof. (Was it Tommy Carr by any chance) For the sending off he basically said yeah it was a kick and a red card but sure it wasn't too bad so let him stay on. Rules are rules ya lug.

I thought the analysis of the senior game was very good tonight.

He's Tom Carr now. No more Funtime Tommy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on August 24, 2014, 11:18:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.

Do you really think he gives a fu*k, The fixtures committee have shown complete disregards for fans, Q/finals not on one weekend and now an american football game in croke park at tail end of championship. Did any of the incompetent aholes wonder, oh well, what if its a draw, ah sure we send them down to limerick,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 24, 2014, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 24, 2014, 11:18:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.

Do you really think he gives a f**k, The fixtures committee have shown complete disregards for fans, Q/finals not on one weekend and now an american football game in croke park at tail end of championship. Did any of the incompetent aholes wonder, oh well, what if its a draw, ah sure we send them down to limerick,
If the replay had been in Croke Park people would be saying that the GAA were showing complete disregard for fans.

They're making you travel a significantly lesser journey by bringing you to Limerick.

Perhaps you want to pay the extra petrol money?

Moan, fooking moan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:24:36 PM
Exactly, sure if lads weren't complaining they'd have nothing to do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 24, 2014, 11:30:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 24, 2014, 11:27:18 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:24:36 PM
Exactly, sure if lads weren't complaining they'd have nothing to do.
And what would you be doing if lads weren't complaining??

And no preview of Penn State v UCF either. Disgrace.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 24, 2014, 11:27:18 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:24:36 PM
Exactly, sure if lads weren't complaining they'd have nothing to do.
And what would you be doing if lads weren't complaining??

"Look at me, I spend so much time giving off about lads complaining that I never get time to complain myself".

Clap fcukin clap.

Idiot comment from the boards chief complainer. Are you employed to piss and moan about everything?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 24, 2014, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 24, 2014, 11:32:38 PM
Can American football go to a replay?

No. They get big enough money on the one day. I think they call it overtime for some strange reason.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:45:30 PM
Good man, another daft comment. Not complaining is ball licking is it??? If you weren't moaning about something you'd have nothing to do. The game is in Limerick a half way point between the two counties boo hoo, it's good enough to hold a munster final so it's surely acceptable to hold an All Ireland semi final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:48:58 PM
Keep the shite talk coming, have you ever said anything positive I wonder?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 24, 2014, 11:50:40 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:45:30 PM
Good man, another daft comment. Not complaining is ball licking is it??? If you weren't moaning about something you'd have nothing to do. The game is in Limerick a half way point between the two counties boo hoo, it's good enough to hold a munster final so it's surely acceptable to hold an All Ireland semi final.
Munster hurling finals are bigger than All-Ireland football semi-finals.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:51:53 PM
 Jesus wept ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 24, 2014, 11:52:22 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:45:30 PM
Good man, another daft comment. Not complaining is ball licking is it??? If you weren't moaning about something you'd have nothing to do. The game is in Limerick a half way point between the two counties boo hoo, it's good enough to hold a munster final so it's surely acceptable to hold an All Ireland semi final.

To be fair, comparing the weakest provincial final and an AISF isn't like-for-like. Not as up in arms as some are at this prospect but still it's far from ideal. Even as a supporter when you climb the steps of Croke Park there's something special and unique about the place. It's such a part of the occasion at this stage. It won't be the same, and that's a shame and intriguing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
It's a 50,000 capacity stadium that's good enough to hold a provincial final, surely that's ok to hold a replayed semi final? Granted, Croke Park is the best ground but if it can't be used then the GGs is a decent alternative. It's big enough and has a train and bus service so I can't understand why people are giving out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2014, 12:00:21 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
It's a 50,000 capacity stadium that's good enough to hold a provincial final, surely that's ok to hold a replayed semi final? Granted, Croke Park is the best ground but if it can't be used then the GGs is a decent alternative. It's big enough and has a train and bus service so I can't understand why people are giving out.

Limerick borders Kerry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 12:03:59 AM
So?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 12:09:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2014, 11:52:22 PM

To be fair, comparing the weakest provincial final and an AISF isn't like-for-like. Not as up in arms as some are at this prospect but still it's far from ideal. Even as a supporter when you climb the steps of Croke Park there's something special and unique about the place. It's such a part of the occasion at this stage. It won't be the same, and that's a shame and intriguing.
Ii do believe he's referencing the strongest provincial final, which the Munster hurling final clearly is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 12:10:39 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2014, 12:00:21 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:57:19 PM
It's a 50,000 capacity stadium that's good enough to hold a provincial final, surely that's ok to hold a replayed semi final? Granted, Croke Park is the best ground but if it can't be used then the GGs is a decent alternative. It's big enough and has a train and bus service so I can't understand why people are giving out.

Limerick borders Kerry.
The fact that Limerick borders Kerry will surely be worth a goal start for Kerry, obviously.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 12:14:34 AM
It has been played there yes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 12:23:47 AM
And your point?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on August 25, 2014, 12:35:58 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.

Should he resign?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 12:54:43 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 25, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 12:09:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2014, 11:52:22 PM

To be fair, comparing the weakest provincial final and an AISF isn't like-for-like. Not as up in arms as some are at this prospect but still it's far from ideal. Even as a supporter when you climb the steps of Croke Park there's something special and unique about the place. It's such a part of the occasion at this stage. It won't be the same, and that's a shame and intriguing.
Ii do believe he's referencing the strongest provincial final, which the Munster hurling final clearly is.
Was that played in Limerick??
Hmmm.....
Yes. I was at it. It was the GAA event I've been at in years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2014, 07:52:52 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 12:03:59 AM
So?
Why not bring it to Salthill or Hyde Park?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
I would imagine Limerick is closer to half way between both counties and it has the capacity to hold the crowd.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: clarshack on August 25, 2014, 12:35:58 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.

Should he resign?

Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 25, 2014, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: clarshack on August 25, 2014, 12:35:58 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.

Should he resign?

Why?
Cause he's a twat. Mainly.
But also as he would have engineered the College Football game in the middle of peak GAA season
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 25, 2014, 09:37:31 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 25, 2014, 09:33:32 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: clarshack on August 25, 2014, 12:35:58 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 24, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Peter McKenna is getting a hammering on the Sunday game.

Should he resign?

Why?
Cause he's a t**t. Mainly.
But also as he would have engineered the College Football game in the middle of peak GAA season

That's his job... he's commercial director of Croke Park and he has a massive event coming there that will generate millions in revenue. I'd imagine he'll be getting some kind of big commission cheque rather than having to resign.

He's not employed by the GAA anyway as far as I know!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 09:43:05 AM
PCT is a holding company for the GAA so I presume McKenna is answerable to Padraig Duffy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 25, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
Disgrace! Down with whoever is responsible! We could have told you this would happen.* Bloody fascists!

(* But we didn't, and to be honest, we never even noticed, but well, now that it's obvious, we're outraged.)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 10:05:02 AM
Christy Burke should be brought in to mediate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 04:03:32 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 24, 2014, 11:45:30 PM
Good man, another daft comment. Not complaining is ball licking is it??? If you weren't moaning about something you'd have nothing to do. The game is in Limerick a half way point between the two counties boo hoo, it's good enough to hold a munster final so it's surely acceptable to hold an All Ireland semi final.

Half way point???? Have a quick look at a map there will you

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
I don't need to look at the map. If your point is that the pitch should be exactly half way from everywhere in both counties then I'd be interested to hear where this geographical oddity is. The only real options would seem to be Limerick or Galway and Limerick is bigger and more accessible. The Kerry players wouldn't be overly familiar with the ground so I don't know what the problem is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 25, 2014, 04:11:08 PM
Kerry last played there in a qualifer in 2012. I don't really remember Kerry playing much in Limerick, certainly this bunch of players. Mind you, they've probably played underage or challenges there in fairness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 25, 2014, 04:12:22 PM
The replay should be in Croke Park which it would have been if that eejity Yank nonsense hadn't been lumped into it in the middle of the busy big game period.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
I don't need to look at the map. If your point is that the pitch should be exactly half way from everywhere in both counties then I'd be interested to hear where this geographical oddity is. The only real options would seem to be Limerick or Galway and Limerick is bigger and more accessible. The Kerry players wouldn't be overly familiar with the ground so I don't know what the problem is.

You said it was "a half way point" - my point is that's it's not, nothing else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on August 25, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
I like American Football but the GAA took a huge risk when they scheduled that game for next Saturday. I would have expected that they would have a plan to allow for drawn semi finals but it seems they've been caught with their pants down. This is grossly unfair to both teams but especially to Mayo (and I'm no lover of Mayo).

The replay should have been fixed for Saturday week in Croke Park. If Dub/Don ended in a draw then just play a double header. Of course the real reason that couldn't happen is because you'd probably be able to sell 120,000 tickets for those games and you'd only have 83,000 seats.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 25, 2014, 04:29:29 PM
I agree with all this. I love the American Football, and I'm going on Saturday, but Croke Park in August is our peak season. Even the lines on the pitch on Sunday for the Dublin game will look odd I think, and that's without any replay issues. The replay should be in Croker next Saturday week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 25, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
I don't need to look at the map. If your point is that the pitch should be exactly half way from everywhere in both counties then I'd be interested to hear where this geographical oddity is. The only real options would seem to be Limerick or Galway and Limerick is bigger and more accessible. The Kerry players wouldn't be overly familiar with the ground so I don't know what the problem is.

You said it was "a half way point" - my point is that's it's not, nothing else.

Fair enough, but the point I was making was that Limerick was the most suitable ground that is midway between both counties. If Croke Park can't be used then I think Limerick is the best alternative.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 04:52:27 PM
How long before a Rossie suggests using the Hyde??  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 25, 2014, 04:58:44 PM
Two things:

1) GAA must include provision for replays in master fixture plan. (At least for quarter finals onwards)  Then when American Football, country and Western concerts etc.. are being scheduled we will see up front where clashes are.  Then people know what is being prioritized before it is too late.

2) What's on in Thurles next Saturday night?  Surely a better environment than Limerick?

/Jim.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 25, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
Thurles would be even further than Limerick for Mayo I'd have thought?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:02:52 PM
Yeah, semple would be a right trek for Mayo fans. Limk is the best option if Croker isn't available. Pearse probably not big enough.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 05:09:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 25, 2014, 04:29:29 PM
I agree with all this. I love the American Football, and I'm going on Saturday, but Croke Park in August is our peak season. Even the lines on the pitch on Sunday for the Dublin game will look odd I think, and that's without any replay issues. The replay should be in Croker next Saturday week.
The GAA would be stupid not to plan for the event of Dublin-Donegal replay. If Kerry-Mayo had been announced for Saturday week in Croke Park it's not just as simple as then switching it to Limerick to make way for a Dublin-Donegal replay in Croke Park that day instead. Thousands of tickets would have already been sold before it would be known Dublin-Donegal was also going to a replay and you could end up with a total mess of a situation.

Playing a Dublin-Donegal replay on September 13th would give only 8 days for the winner to prepare for the final.

Far from being caught with their pants down, the GAA had a contingency plan in place - hence the immediate announcement yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:13:53 PM
Could a Dublin v Donegal replay not be played outside Croke Park??

Croke Park should have been left empty to allow for a replay. Plenty of weekends earlier in the summer to have non-gaa events
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on August 25, 2014, 05:21:27 PM
Disgraceful decision on the part of the GAA, really really bad.  The message going out is that the American football friendly takes priority over staging one of the biggest games on the GAA calendar.  The GAA might have made more bucks out of this decision but its lost a lot of goodwill.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:13:53 PM
Could a Dublin v Donegal replay not be played outside Croke Park??

Croke Park should have been left empty to allow for a replay. Plenty of weekends earlier in the summer to have non-gaa events
No for the obvious reason it would attract 82,000 people for a replay whereas a Kerry-Mayo replay at Croke Park would have attracted 40-45k, which can be accommodated elsewhere at a venue more convenient to both counties.

There wasn't another weekend to have this college football match by the way. It was either have it this Saturday or not have it at all. The same with concerts. You either have them in the summer or don't have them at all. The GAA would be stupid to refuse all that money and let the IRFU have it instead. To promote Gaelic Games as effectively as possible, Croke Park has to be run as a business.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
You're right, sure you couldn't be taking the dubs out of Croker  :o

A business?? Surely the prime aim of the GAA should be the hosting of its own games??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 05:42:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
You're right, sure you couldn't be taking the dubs out of Croker  :o

A business?? Surely the prime aim of the GAA should be the hosting of its own games??
The GAA has an obligation to run Croke Park as a business. Where do you think all the money comes from?

Where were all the people complaining now when the American football fixture was announced a year ago? Ii didn't hear anybody complaining about it before yesterday. That's a bit late.

Dublin aren't taken out of Croke Park because they bring in far more revenue for the GAA than anybody else.

As has been said numerous times, the vast majority of Dublin fans would like nothing better than for some of the Leinster championship matches to be played at provincial venues.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:46:27 PM
I see, there's a statute of limitations on complaining about something, wasn't aware of that!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 25, 2014, 06:27:17 PM
Quote from: Armamike on August 25, 2014, 05:21:27 PM
Disgraceful decision on the part of the GAA, really really bad.  The message going out is that the American football friendly takes priority over staging one of the biggest games on the GAA calendar.  The GAA might have made more bucks out of this decision but its lost a lot of goodwill.

Point if order, it's not a friendly. It's a regular season game and a big deal for both schools.

The message, if there is one, is that the GAA decided it was worth risking that a replayed semi final would have to be played outside Croke park.

I'd prefer it in the aviva like the notre dame game. It would be a sell out, and I could have gone up to croker for the replay as well. Who do I complain to?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 06:28:42 PM
Too late AZ, you should have complained in January.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on August 25, 2014, 07:55:27 PM
Business my hole it's a scandalous decision to have an AIF semi played outside Croke Park. No amount of positing this a Mayo whinge cuts it, it's plain wrong regardless of the counties involved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 07:57:59 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:13:53 PM
Could a Dublin v Donegal replay not be played outside Croke Park??

Croke Park should have been left empty to allow for a replay. Plenty of weekends earlier in the summer to have non-gaa events
No for the obvious reason it would attract 82,000 people for a replay whereas a Kerry-Mayo replay at Croke Park would have attracted 40-45k, which can be accommodated elsewhere at a venue more convenient to both counties.

There wasn't another weekend to have this college football match by the way. It was either have it this Saturday or not have it at all. The same with concerts. You either have them in the summer or don't have them at all. The GAA would be stupid to refuse all that money and let the IRFU have it instead. To promote Gaelic Games as effectively as possible, Croke Park has to be run as a business.

Limerick is not 'more convenient' to Mayo. There is no direct train from Mayo to Limerick and the road is pretty poor until you reach Gort.

Your argument about the attendance is absurd. Using your logic any match that doesn't have 50,000 in attendance should be 'accommodated elsewhere at a venue more convenient to both counties'. This is hilarious coming from a Dublin supporter.

This is an All-Ireland semi-final. It is one of the two most important fixtures of the year, after the final. Anyone who ever kicked a ball wants to play in Croke Park on the big day and that is where the supporters want to watch such games. Add to that, the way our infrastructure is organised in this country almost all main roads and all main train routes lead to, and from, Dublin.

Unfortunately vanity projects, and keeping a slot open for Dublin, are now more important to Croke Park than their bread and butter. But we have to get on with it and not allow it to distract us from the mission. Time to move on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on August 25, 2014, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 05:42:26 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
You're right, sure you couldn't be taking the dubs out of Croker  :o

A business?? Surely the prime aim of the GAA should be the hosting of its own games??
The GAA has an obligation to run Croke Park as a business. Where do you think all the money comes from?

Where were all the people complaining now when the American football fixture was announced a year ago? Ii didn't hear anybody complaining about it before yesterday. That's a bit late.

Dublin aren't taken out of Croke Park because they bring in far more revenue for the GAA than anybody else.

As has been said numerous times, the vast majority of Dublin fans would like nothing better than for some of the Leinster championship matches to be played at provincial venues.

Croke Park does not need to be run as a business to the detriment of Gaelic games!
Ffs, it's our stadium and one of the biggest games in the GAA calendar cannot be held in our premier stadium because of these "business" decisions.
The Croke Park debt has been paid off, so there is no need for scheduling other events during the height of our championships!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 07:57:59 PM

Limerick is not 'more convenient' to Mayo. There is no direct train from Mayo to Limerick and the road is pretty poor until you reach Gort.

Your argument about the attendance is absurd. Using your logic any match that doesn't have 50,000 in attendance should be 'accommodated elsewhere at a venue more convenient to both counties'. This is hilarious coming from a Dublin supporter.

This is an All-Ireland semi-final. It is one of the two most important fixtures of the year, after the final. Anyone who ever kicked a ball wants to play in Croke Park on the big day and that is where the supporters want to watch such games. Add to that, the way our infrastructure is organised in this country almost all main roads and all main train routes lead to, and from, Dublin.

Unfortunately vanity projects, and keeping a slot open for Dublin, are now more important to Croke Park than their bread and butter. But we have to get on with it and not allow it to distract us from the mission. Time to move on.

The map would disagree with you - Limerick is comfortably nearer to every part of Mayo than Dublin is.

The N17/N18 from Claremorris to Gort is a national primary route - I'm well familiar with that road and it's certainly no worse and mostly better than the N5 or N60 would be going to Dublin, and as you say yourself, the last 63km are motorway.

Of course Croke Park should be run as a business. Running the GAA costs money and requires professional administraton. It's in competition with other sporting organisations which are run as businesses and if the GAA doesn't do the same it will get left behind.

You call concerts and an American football match "vanity projects". I call them prudent decisions on the part of the GAA to bring in much needed extra revenue that goes back into the promotion and development of Gaelic Games. If you want to talk about vanity projects, look no further than the stand at McHale Park, with €6.5m of funding coming from Central Council, which gets a majority of its revenue from gate receipts, a huge part of which is provided by Dublin supporters. We're directly funding you.

One match has been moved out of Croke Park and there will be no loss in terms of gate receipts. My response to that is: so what? If Dublin were made play an All-Ireland semi-final replay in Limerick, Thurles, Cork or Killarney, my response from a football point of view would be: "great, bring it on!" The GAA's view would likely be, and wisely so from a financial point of view would be: "we'd be losing out on the significant extra revenue provided by Dublin supporters packing out Croke Park", and that's a view that's hard to argue with.

If you dislike Dublin so much why do want to come up here so much anyway?  ;D


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 07:57:59 PM

Limerick is not 'more convenient' to Mayo. There is no direct train from Mayo to Limerick and the road is pretty poor until you reach Gort.

Your argument about the attendance is absurd. Using your logic any match that doesn't have 50,000 in attendance should be 'accommodated elsewhere at a venue more convenient to both counties'. This is hilarious coming from a Dublin supporter.

This is an All-Ireland semi-final. It is one of the two most important fixtures of the year, after the final. Anyone who ever kicked a ball wants to play in Croke Park on the big day and that is where the supporters want to watch such games. Add to that, the way our infrastructure is organised in this country almost all main roads and all main train routes lead to, and from, Dublin.

Unfortunately vanity projects, and keeping a slot open for Dublin, are now more important to Croke Park than their bread and butter. But we have to get on with it and not allow it to distract us from the mission. Time to move on.

The map would disagree with you - Limerick is comfortably nearer to every part of Mayo than Dublin is.

The N17/N18 from Claremorris to Gort is a national primary route - I'm well familiar with that road and it's certainly no worse and mostly better than the N5 or N60 would be going to Dublin, and as you say yourself, the last 63km are motorway.

Of course Croke Park should be run as a business. Running the GAA costs money and requires professional administraton. It's in competition with other sporting organisations which are run as businesses and if the GAA doesn't do the same it will get left behind.

You call concerts and an American football match "vanity projects". I call them prudent decisions on the part of the GAA to bring in much needed extra revenue that goes back into the promotion and development of Gaelic Games. If you want to talk about vanity projects, look no further than the stand at McHale Park, with €6.5m of funding coming from Central Council, which gets a majority of its revenue from gate receipts, a huge part of which is provided by Dublin supporters. We're directly funding you.

One match has been moved out of Croke Park and there will be no loss in terms of gate receipts. My response to that is: so what? If Dublin were made play an All-Ireland semi-final replay in Limerick, Thurles, Cork or Killarney, my response from a football point of view would be: "great, bring it on!" The GAA's view would likely be, and wisely so from a financial point of view would be: "we'd be losing out on the significant extra revenue provided by Dublin supporters packing out Croke Park", and that's a view that's hard to argue with.

If you dislike Dublin so much why do want to come up here so much anyway?  ;D

I don't dislike Dublin at all.

You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.

And as for this:
QuoteThe N17/N18 from Claremorris to Gort is a national primary route - I'm well familiar with that road and it's certainly no worse and mostly better than the N5 or N60 would be going to Dublin

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM


You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.
If Grath Brooks had gone ahead and Dublin and Meath had drawn, the replay would have been in Thurles. That seems like a perfectly sound business decision to me and I would have had no problem with it.

The GAA is getting extra revenue it wouldn't have otherwise got by staging this American football match. That seems like a sound business decision to me.

Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
How can one national primary road which consists mostly of single carriageway with a hard shoulder, some of which is single carriageway with no hard shoulder, be vastly superior to another national primary road with a hard shoulder all the way? How is it superior at all?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on August 25, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM


You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.
If Grath Brooks had gone ahead and Dublin and Meath had drawn, the replay would have been in Thurles. That seems like a perfectly sound business decision to me and I would have had no problem with it.

The GAA is getting extra revenue it wouldn't have otherwise got by staging this American football match. That seems like a sound business decision to me.

Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
How can one national primary road which consists mostly of single carriageway with a hard shoulder, some of which is single carriageway with no hard shoulder, be vastly superior to another national primary road with a hard shoulder all the way? How is it superior at all?

Do you understand what the GAA as an organisation is? Do you understand what the primary purpose of Croke Park is!?
How can it be perfectly reasonable to move the biggest GAA matches out of the GAA's main stadium so a country 'n western concert or an American college football game can take precedence!?
You must be on the wind up. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 05:46:27 PM
I see, there's a statute of limitations on complaining about something, wasn't aware of that!!

Now that you are, you might tell the Tyrone lads as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 25, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM


You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.
If Grath Brooks had gone ahead and Dublin and Meath had drawn, the replay would have been in Thurles. That seems like a perfectly sound business decision to me and I would have had no problem with it.

The GAA is getting extra revenue it wouldn't have otherwise got by staging this American football match. That seems like a sound business decision to me.

Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
How can one national primary road which consists mostly of single carriageway with a hard shoulder, some of which is single carriageway with no hard shoulder, be vastly superior to another national primary road with a hard shoulder all the way? How is it superior at all?

Do you understand what the GAA as an organisation is? Do you understand what the primary purpose of Croke Park is!?
How can it be perfectly reasonable to move the biggest GAA matches out of the GAA's main stadium so a country 'n western concert or an American college football game can take precedence!?
You must be on the wind up.
The biggest GAA matches? The way you've phrased it, you'd think this was a regular occurrence.

One match, the first All-ireland semi-final in 31 years, is moved and all hell breaks loose from a shower of whingers.

Do you understand that Croke Park has a revenue generating function and it would be seriously remiss of the GAA not to exploit that?

Or do you live in a la-la land where there's a money fairy handing out goodies paid for by nobody?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on August 25, 2014, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 25, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM


You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.
If Grath Brooks had gone ahead and Dublin and Meath had drawn, the replay would have been in Thurles. That seems like a perfectly sound business decision to me and I would have had no problem with it.

The GAA is getting extra revenue it wouldn't have otherwise got by staging this American football match. That seems like a sound business decision to me.

Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
How can one national primary road which consists mostly of single carriageway with a hard shoulder, some of which is single carriageway with no hard shoulder, be vastly superior to another national primary road with a hard shoulder all the way? How is it superior at all?

Do you understand what the GAA as an organisation is? Do you understand what the primary purpose of Croke Park is!?
How can it be perfectly reasonable to move the biggest GAA matches out of the GAA's main stadium so a country 'n western concert or an American college football game can take precedence!?
You must be on the wind up.
The biggest GAA matches? The way you've phrased it, you'd think this was a regular occurrence.

One match, the first All-ireland semi-final in 31 years, is moved and all hell breaks loose from a shower of whingers.

Do you understand that Croke Park has a revenue generating function and it would be seriously remiss of the GAA not to exploit that?

Or do you live in a la-la land where there's a money fairy handing out goodies paid for by nobody?

I do understand Croke Park has a revenue generating function.
Do you understand that the GAA is primarily a sporting organisation? Do you not agree that gaelic games should take precedence over other "revenue generating" events?
The All-Ireland quarter-finals are held from the August bank holiday onwards. The least Croke Park could do is agree that none of these "revenue generating" events are scheduled for the months of August and September. Do you really not think that's reasonable?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:57:16 PM
The GAA is primarily a sporting organisation. How has that changed in any way?

The latter stages of the All--Ireland championships have a revenue generating function. How has that changed in any way? What revenue has been lost by this decision?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on August 25, 2014, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM


You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.
If Grath Brooks had gone ahead and Dublin and Meath had drawn, the replay would have been in Thurles. That seems like a perfectly sound business decision to me and I would have had no problem with it.

The GAA is getting extra revenue it wouldn't have otherwise got by staging this American football match. That seems like a sound business decision to me.

Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
How can one national primary road which consists mostly of single carriageway with a hard shoulder, some of which is single carriageway with no hard shoulder, be vastly superior to another national primary road with a hard shoulder all the way? How is it superior at all?

You can twist it all you like, the bottom line is that the GAA has decided to relegate its premier product to b status, to accommodate another sport for money reasons. Poor stuff, and hard to think of any other self respecting sporting organisation that would do that to its own games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 25, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jez, it's gas a Dub telling us Culchies. What grounds are convenient and inconvenient. A Dub who only has to take the Dart, Luas, Dublin bus or walk to a game. It's not the end of the world going to Limerick. But don't patronise me by telling me it is more convenient a journey!

Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:57:16 PM
The GAA is primarily a sporting organisation. How has that changed in any way?

The latter stages of the All--Ireland championships have a revenue generating function. How has that changed in any way? What revenue has been lost by this decision?

Revenue over tradition?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
WTF is wrong with people?

Why shouldn't an AI SF replay be played away from Dublin?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:09:17 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 25, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 09:38:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM


You business argument is crazy. Croke Park should not prioritise anything over big Gaelic Games fixtures. If they shoved Dublin out of Croker because a Garth Brooks event would yield more, that would be a good business argument, but would miss the point completely.
If Grath Brooks had gone ahead and Dublin and Meath had drawn, the replay would have been in Thurles. That seems like a perfectly sound business decision to me and I would have had no problem with it.

The GAA is getting extra revenue it wouldn't have otherwise got by staging this American football match. That seems like a sound business decision to me.

Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

Complete nonsense. Other than the Roscommon part, which is slowly being upgraded, it is vastly superior and there are no real bottlenecks left on the N5.
How can one national primary road which consists mostly of single carriageway with a hard shoulder, some of which is single carriageway with no hard shoulder, be vastly superior to another national primary road with a hard shoulder all the way? How is it superior at all?

Do you understand what the GAA as an organisation is? Do you understand what the primary purpose of Croke Park is!?
How can it be perfectly reasonable to move the biggest GAA matches out of the GAA's main stadium so a country 'n western concert or an American college football game can take precedence!?
You must be on the wind up.
The biggest GAA matches? The way you've phrased it, you'd think this was a regular occurrence.

One match, the first All-ireland semi-final in 31 years, is moved and all hell breaks loose from a shower of whingers.

Do you understand that Croke Park has a revenue generating function and it would be seriously remiss of the GAA not to exploit that?

Or do you live in a la-la land where there's a money fairy handing out goodies paid for by nobody?

I am a revenue generating function. I could throw the kids out of the house and make money from renting out their bedrooms, but for some reason money isn't the only priority.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:09:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jez, it's gas a Dub telling us Culchies. What grounds are convenient and inconvenient. A Dub who only has to take the Dart, Luas, Dublin bus or walk to a game. It's not the end of the world going to Limerick. But don't patronise me by telling me it is more convenient a journey!
I'm not patronising you. I'm telling you what's blatantly obvious. Limerick is nearer, the roads to it are no worse, how can it be less convenient?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:09:17 PM

I am a revenue generating function. I could throw the kids out of the house and make money from renting out their bedrooms, but for some reason money isn't the only priority.
Did you hear that on Liveline?

Did you make supermarket comparisons when Rule 42 was being debated?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:09:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 25, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Jez, it's gas a Dub telling us Culchies. What grounds are convenient and inconvenient. A Dub who only has to take the Dart, Luas, Dublin bus or walk to a game. It's not the end of the world going to Limerick. But don't patronise me by telling me it is more convenient a journey!
I'm not patronising you. I'm telling you what's blatantly obvious. Limerick is nearer, the roads to it are no worse, how can it be less convenient?

The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The reasons for moving us are to accommodate a Colleges American Football game and to keep a slot open for the Dubs, in the event that they need a replay. Neither reason shows any respect for us or our opponents.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:09:17 PM

I am a revenue generating function. I could throw the kids out of the house and make money from renting out their bedrooms, but for some reason money isn't the only priority.
Did you hear that on Liveline?

Did you make supermarket comparisons when Rule 42 was being debated?

You'll have to tell me what Liveline is.

What has this got to do with rule 42?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2014, 10:23:12 PM
It has been badly managed. It's disrespectful even if they get money from the American football. Downgrading an AISF.
Businesses can be run without dissing the customers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM


The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The roads are fine and just as as good and better as those to Dublin. How do you ever deal with getting to Pearse Stadium, one wonders?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 25, 2014, 10:23:12 PM
It has been badly managed. It's disrespectful even if they get money from the American football. Downgrading an AISF.
Businesses can be run without dissing the customers.
You'd have to say this is the biggest injustice suffered by Irish people since Mary Byrne was voted off X-Factor. To Liveline with you all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM


The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The roads are fine and just as as good and better as those to Dublin. How do you ever deal with getting to Pearse Stadium, one wonders?

Are you an expert on all of our roads, or just the ones to and from Mayo? Pearse Stadium is a complete nightmare to get to and from. You picked a good comparison. The roads to Dublin can easily accommodate the increase in traffic generated by a big game. We will have to see how Clarinbridge and the junction in Claregalway manage.

And you ignored the lack of a realistic train connection.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM


The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The roads are fine and just as as good and better as those to Dublin. How do you ever deal with getting to Pearse Stadium, one wonders?

If you really think the road to Gort is as good as the fúcking M6 you're having a serious laugh at the expense of everyone else in Ireland.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2014, 10:29:23 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 25, 2014, 10:23:12 PM
It has been badly managed. It's disrespectful even if they get money from the American football. Downgrading an AISF.
Businesses can be run without dissing the customers.
You'd have to say this is the biggest injustice suffered by Irish people since Mary Byrne was voted off X-Factor. To Liveline with you all.
Take it up a notch sid
Let's talk about business. Never mind the radio

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0c3bcc00-299b-11e4-8b81-00144feabdc0.html

In an age of self check-in, self bag-tagging and generally doing everything for yourself, the chief point of differentiation is going to be well-trained, efficient and friendly staff who care about the details and can lift a brand from respected to outstanding


This whole thing is ultra sloppy
Business is about how you treat your customers. Revenue comes after that. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on August 25, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM


The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The roads are fine and just as as good and better as those to Dublin. How do you ever deal with getting to Pearse Stadium, one wonders?

If you really think the road to Gort is as good as the fúcking M6 you're having a serious laugh at the expense of everyone else in Ireland.
Roscommon traffic to minor final replay in Ennis was supposed to be ridiculous. 1000s late?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
What about when the All-Ireland minor final replay between Mayo and Tyrone (and Aidan) was played in Longford? Was that a disgrace? Or is the senior semi-final far more important? Or is it the American Football that's annoying people.

We could see a classic in Limerick in front of a packed capacity and TV audience.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:34:57 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 25, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM


The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The roads are fine and just as as good and better as those to Dublin. How do you ever deal with getting to Pearse Stadium, one wonders?

If you really think the road to Gort is as good as the fúcking M6 you're having a serious laugh at the expense of everyone else in Ireland.
Roscommon traffic to minor final replay in Ennis was supposed to be ridiculous. 1000s late?

They decided to sell the tickets at the ground because they completely misread how many people would be attending. Ended up with massive queues to get to the ground and then to get tickets too. There was some lad on Mid-West today mentioning they ended up locking out supporters and supporters had to break in to see the game. I can't remember if that's just a mad ranter or fact. Total logistical disaster anyways.

Doesn't bode well for a game that should get double as many people in the same part of the country. At least the motorway by-passes Ennis, total death-trap for cars even on a normal day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:45:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 25, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
What about when the All-Ireland minor final replay between Mayo and Tyrone (and Aidan) was played in Longford? Was that a disgrace? Or is the senior semi-final far more important? Or is it the American Football that's annoying people.

We could see a classic in Limerick in front of a packed capacity and TV audience.

a) American football prioritised ahead of an AISF;
b) not allowed play the following Sunday, as it is being kept for the Dubs/Donegal replay that probably won't happen;
c) Crap road which will be filled with 20,000+ supporters, on a bloody Saturday going to Limerick;
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2014, 10:48:48 PM
a) It's a replay
b) Is a godsend. You want as much time as possible to prepare for the AI final with niggles and media work.
c) Get up earlier.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
I found this chestnut from 2006 - keep in mind we're talking about half of what would be expected on the same road for this replay:

QuoteDid not get there at all >:( Left Oranmore at 12.30 to do a journey that normally takes 1hour reached Gort at 12.50 and everything ground to a halt. Spent an hour travelling 3/4 of a mile and turned about and went home to watch it. It was ridiculous the amount of traffic that was going through Gort and there was one Garda directing it all on the Ennis side of Gort. One!
By the time i (and several others) had turned around and gotten back out of Gort there was a 4 mile tail back going in. I seen 4 buses with fans stuck in the traffic. There must have been thousands that were late or did not see the match at all. Total balls up. Why there could not have been a few more Guards out helping things along i don't know. Not a happy camper but at least i got home to see it all.

Basically, get Prenty to rent his helicopter if you don't get on the road very early.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:52:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 10:23:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 10:15:56 PM


The roads are far worse. There is no realistic train connection. Parking will be a nightmare. We have absolutely no experience of playing in the Gaelic Grounds while Kerry certainly do.

The roads are fine and just as as good and better as those to Dublin. How do you ever deal with getting to Pearse Stadium, one wonders?

If you really think the road to Gort is as good as the fúcking M6 you're having a serious laugh at the expense of everyone else in Ireland.
The N17/N18 is just as good as the N5/N60 and the M18 is just as good as the M6. And it's a shorter journey.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
I found this chestnut from 2006 - keep in mind we're talking about half of what would be expected on the same road for this replay:

QuoteDid not get there at all >:( Left Oranmore at 12.30 to do a journey that normally takes 1hour reached Gort at 12.50 and everything ground to a halt. Spent an hour travelling 3/4 of a mile and turned about and went home to watch it. It was ridiculous the amount of traffic that was going through Gort and there was one Garda directing it all on the Ennis side of Gort. One!
By the time i (and several others) had turned around and gotten back out of Gort there was a 4 mile tail back going in. I seen 4 buses with fans stuck in the traffic. There must have been thousands that were late or did not see the match at all. Total balls up. Why there could not have been a few more Guards out helping things along i don't know. Not a happy camper but at least i got home to see it all.

Basically, get Prenty to rent his helicopter if you don't get on the road very early.
It's not the same road. Gort has been bypassed. Do keep up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2014, 11:05:20 PM
Yes, the slight advantage kerry have by being closer to limerick and more familiar with the gaelic grounds is a factor

Also, there will be a shortage of tickets and no train connection

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 11:08:10 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
I found this chestnut from 2006 - keep in mind we're talking about half of what would be expected on the same road for this replay:

QuoteDid not get there at all >:( Left Oranmore at 12.30 to do a journey that normally takes 1hour reached Gort at 12.50 and everything ground to a halt. Spent an hour travelling 3/4 of a mile and turned about and went home to watch it. It was ridiculous the amount of traffic that was going through Gort and there was one Garda directing it all on the Ennis side of Gort. One!
By the time i (and several others) had turned around and gotten back out of Gort there was a 4 mile tail back going in. I seen 4 buses with fans stuck in the traffic. There must have been thousands that were late or did not see the match at all. Total balls up. Why there could not have been a few more Guards out helping things along i don't know. Not a happy camper but at least i got home to see it all.

Basically, get Prenty to rent his helicopter if you don't get on the road very early.
It's not the same road. Gort has been bypassed. Do keep up.

Unless there's two Gaelic Grounds they're all still going to one place. Getting on the motorway in Gort and off it in Limerick is the issue. Do keep up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

They were quarter finals, and as for Offaly/Clare in Thurles - are you seriously comparing that to Mayo in Limerick? It is over 250kms from Belmullet ffs.

And as for the roads, I've driven on both this summer. There is no comparison. From anywhere in Mayo to Gort will be hard going. It is 212km from Ballina (via Ballinrobe - have you ever driven that road?) on AA route finder. It is longer via Claremorris.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
I'm sure Sidney has been on the N84 regularly...haven't you Sidney?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

They were quarter finals, and as for Offaly/Clare in Thurles - are you seriously comparing that to Mayo in Limerick? It is over 250kms from Belmullet ffs.

And as for the roads, I've driven on both this summer. There is no comparison. From anywhere in Mayo to Gort will be hard going. It is 212km from Ballina (via Ballinrobe - have you ever driven that road?) on AA route finder. It is longer via Claremorris.
Belmullet to Dublin is 300km. I have driven on the Ballinrobe road. But I have to ask - why would you go that way when coming from Ballina? Why would you deliberately go on a regional road and ignore the national primary route that's provided from Claremorris? It's 196km from Ballina to Limerick via Claremorris, which is the quicker way, as opposed to 203km via Ballinrobe. Do it out on Google Maps there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2014, 11:14:39 PM
I'm sure Sidney has been on the N84 regularly...haven't you Sidney?
About 8 or 9 times, the last being last November. But unless you live in the Ballinrobe area you'll not have to go that way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on August 25, 2014, 11:25:28 PM
Lotto was won in Ballina last night. Reckon we should fly from Knock to Shannon and be done with it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

They were quarter finals, and as for Offaly/Clare in Thurles - are you seriously comparing that to Mayo in Limerick? It is over 250kms from Belmullet ffs.

And as for the roads, I've driven on both this summer. There is no comparison. From anywhere in Mayo to Gort will be hard going. It is 212km from Ballina (via Ballinrobe - have you ever driven that road?) on AA route finder. It is longer via Claremorris.
Belmullet to Dublin is 300km. I have driven on the Ballinrobe road. But I have to ask - why would you go that way when coming from Ballina? Why would you deliberately go on a regional road and ignore the national primary route that's provided from Claremorris? It's 196km from Ballina to Limerick via Claremorris, which is the quicker way, as opposed to 203km via Ballinrobe. Do it out on Google Maps there.

Now I see the problem.

To get from Ballina to Claremorris, on good roads, you have to go via Castlebar. Most Castlebar people (Ballina people can speak for themselves) will go to Galway via Ballinrobe to avoid the bottlenecks in Tuam & Claregalway. This is the whole point and Google Maps won't show you local knowledge.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2014, 11:27:40 PM
I believe a fella from Ballina won the lottery back in '51.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

They were quarter finals, and as for Offaly/Clare in Thurles - are you seriously comparing that to Mayo in Limerick? It is over 250kms from Belmullet ffs.

And as for the roads, I've driven on both this summer. There is no comparison. From anywhere in Mayo to Gort will be hard going. It is 212km from Ballina (via Ballinrobe - have you ever driven that road?) on AA route finder. It is longer via Claremorris.
Belmullet to Dublin is 300km. I have driven on the Ballinrobe road. But I have to ask - why would you go that way when coming from Ballina? Why would you deliberately go on a regional road and ignore the national primary route that's provided from Claremorris? It's 196km from Ballina to Limerick via Claremorris, which is the quicker way, as opposed to 203km via Ballinrobe. Do it out on Google Maps there.

Now I see the problem.

To get from Ballina to Claremorris, on good roads, you have to go via Castlebar. Most Castlebar people (Ballina people can speak for themselves) will go to Galway via Ballinrobe to avoid the bottlenecks in Tuam & Claregalway. This is the whole point and Google Maps won't show you local knowledge.
I can guarantee you I have as much and probably more local knowledge of the Galway area than you have.

How on earth do Mayo people manage to deal with bottlenecks like Ballaghadereen, Stokestown, Ballyhaunis or Castlerea when heading to Dublin? You seem to be terribly easily put off.

This gets better. You're actually trying to use distance as a reason why this game should not be in Limerick, despite it being closer than Dublin is.

Are there any maps in Mayo?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

They were quarter finals, and as for Offaly/Clare in Thurles - are you seriously comparing that to Mayo in Limerick? It is over 250kms from Belmullet ffs.

And as for the roads, I've driven on both this summer. There is no comparison. From anywhere in Mayo to Gort will be hard going. It is 212km from Ballina (via Ballinrobe - have you ever driven that road?) on AA route finder. It is longer via Claremorris.
Belmullet to Dublin is 300km. I have driven on the Ballinrobe road. But I have to ask - why would you go that way when coming from Ballina? Why would you deliberately go on a regional road and ignore the national primary route that's provided from Claremorris? It's 196km from Ballina to Limerick via Claremorris, which is the quicker way, as opposed to 203km via Ballinrobe. Do it out on Google Maps there.

Now I see the problem.

To get from Ballina to Claremorris, on good roads, you have to go via Castlebar. Most Castlebar people (Ballina people can speak for themselves) will go to Galway via Ballinrobe to avoid the bottlenecks in Tuam & Claregalway. This is the whole point and Google Maps won't show you local knowledge.
I can guarantee you I have as much and probably more local knowledge of the Galway area than you have.

How on earth do Mayo people manage to deal with bottlenecks like Ballaghadereen, Stokestown, Ballyhaunis or Castlerea when heading to Dublin? You seem to be terribly easily put off.

This gets better. You're actually trying to use distance as a reason why this game should not be in Limerick, despite it being closer than Dublin is.

Are there any maps in Mayo?

Of course you do. You, from Dublin, would have more local knowledge of Castlebar to Galway than any Castlebar man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:54:13 PM
Oh and as for the journey for Clare people to Thurles not being comparable, It's 177km from Kilkee to Thurles,  mostly on back roads, which is further than Castlebar to Limerick. While it's slightly shorter for most Clare people to get to Thurles, it's a reasonably comparable journey for most of them.

If you go by your beloved N84, which seems to be your preferred route, it's 235km from Belmullet to Limerick, not 250km.

Also, it's 200km from Limerick to Dublin. That's 200km less that every Kerry person will have to drive.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:48:22 PM


Of course you do. You, from Dublin, would have more local knowledge of Castlebar to Galway than any Castlebar man.
What makes you think I wouldn't? Contrary to the you belief, some Dublin people do actually regularly travel out of Dublin, you know, and can actually be very familiar with such roads.

You on the other hand, appear to believe that Castlebar is nearer to Dublin than it is to Limerick.

Local knowledge, eh?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on August 26, 2014, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:54:13 PM
Oh and as for the journey for Clare people to Thurles not being comparable, It's 177km from Kilkee to Thurles,  mostly on back roads, which is further than Castlebar to Limerick. While it's slightly shorter for most Clare people to get to Thurles, it's a reasonably comparable journey for most of them.

If you go by your beloved N84, which seems to be your preferred route, it's 235km from Belmullet to Limerick, not 250km.

Also, it's 200km from Limerick to Dublin. That's 200km less that every Kerry person will have to drive.

Well if a car left Ballycroy  travelling at 80 km/hr and it took a man a week to work a fortnight , how many apples would there be in a barrel of grapes if he went via Claremorris?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 26, 2014, 12:00:22 AM


Well if a car left Ballycroy  travelling at 80 km/hr and it took a man a week to work a fortnight , how many apples would there be in a barrel of grapes if he went via Claremorris?
I'll let you work that out but seeing as you're in Mayo, I must warn you that the grapes will be sour, so I don't think you'll like those apples at the end of it al.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:01:11 PM
How is it that Offaly and Clare didn't moan in 1998 when they were brought to Thurles instead of Croke Park? Did Dublin moan when we had to play Tipp in their own backyard in the hurling quarter-final last month?

I don't remember Donegal moaning too much in 2003 when they were brought to Castlebar for the quarter-final replay, and that's a ground Galway were far more familiar with than Kerry are with Limerick.

Which is more convenient for Kerry people? Limerick or Dublin? Is Mayo's real fear that more Kerry people might turn up because of the shorter journey?

They were quarter finals, and as for Offaly/Clare in Thurles - are you seriously comparing that to Mayo in Limerick? It is over 250kms from Belmullet ffs.

And as for the roads, I've driven on both this summer. There is no comparison. From anywhere in Mayo to Gort will be hard going. It is 212km from Ballina (via Ballinrobe - have you ever driven that road?) on AA route finder. It is longer via Claremorris.
Belmullet to Dublin is 300km. I have driven on the Ballinrobe road. But I have to ask - why would you go that way when coming from Ballina? Why would you deliberately go on a regional road and ignore the national primary route that's provided from Claremorris? It's 196km from Ballina to Limerick via Claremorris, which is the quicker way, as opposed to 203km via Ballinrobe. Do it out on Google Maps there.

Now I see the problem.

To get from Ballina to Claremorris, on good roads, you have to go via Castlebar. Most Castlebar people (Ballina people can speak for themselves) will go to Galway via Ballinrobe to avoid the bottlenecks in Tuam & Claregalway. This is the whole point and Google Maps won't show you local knowledge.
I can guarantee you I have as much and probably more local knowledge of the Galway area than you have.

How on earth do Mayo people manage to deal with bottlenecks like Ballaghadereen, Stokestown, Ballyhaunis or Castlerea when heading to Dublin? You seem to be terribly easily put off.

This gets better. You're actually trying to use distance as a reason why this game should not be in Limerick, despite it being closer than Dublin is.

Are there any maps in Mayo?

What in God's name are you talking about? You seem to be totally bluffing at this stage. I've never got caught in traffic in any of those towns on a match-day and I just might have a bit more 'local knowledge' on this one that you do.

Ballagh only seriously bottlenecks on Fridays after Nathys (the secondary school) closes on week-days or if you're a fecking truck driver and get jack-knifed turning for the Castlebar road in the middle of town. Not much else causes a problem. Someone abandoning their car on Main Street or mart days are the only things that does it in Castlerea and those are never on Sundays or even Saturdays. There was work on a problem bridge between Castlerea and Ballymoe for a good stretch last year meaning there was only one lane of traffic on a section of that road for a while but I hope you're not marking that a bottleneck comparable to what will happen on Saturday.

Match-days doesn't make any of those towns major bottlenecks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:05:53 AM

What in God's name are you talking about? You seem to be totally bluffing at this stage. I've never got caught in traffic in any of those towns on a match-day and I just might have a bit more local knowledge on this one that you do.

Ballagh only seriously bottlenecks on Fridays after Nathys (the secondary school) closes on week-days or if you're a fecking truck driver and get jack-knifed turning for the Castlebar road in the middle of town. Not much else causes a problem. Mart days are the only thing that does it in Castlerea and those are never on Sundays or even Saturdays. There was work on a problem bridge between Castlerea and Ballymoe for a good stetch last year meaning there was only one lane of traffic on a section of that road for a while but I hope you're not marking that a bottleneck comparable to what will happen on Saturday.

Match-days doesn't make any of those towns major bottlenecks.
If you want to talk about bluffing, let me refer you to your post where you didn't even know that Gort had been bypassed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:10:44 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:05:53 AM

What in God's name are you talking about? You seem to be totally bluffing at this stage. I've never got caught in traffic in any of those towns on a match-day and I just might have a bit more local knowledge on this one that you do.

Ballagh only seriously bottlenecks on Fridays after Nathys (the secondary school) closes on week-days or if you're a fecking truck driver and get jack-knifed turning for the Castlebar road in the middle of town. Not much else causes a problem. Mart days are the only thing that does it in Castlerea and those are never on Sundays or even Saturdays. There was work on a problem bridge between Castlerea and Ballymoe for a good stetch last year meaning there was only one lane of traffic on a section of that road for a while but I hope you're not marking that a bottleneck comparable to what will happen on Saturday.

Match-days doesn't make any of those towns major bottlenecks.
If you want to talk about bluffing, let me refer you to your post where you didn't even know that Gort had been bypassed.

You don't seem to know that the Roscommon supporters were coming from the other side of Gort that day. Even from the other side the slip road onto the motorway is a known bottleneck. I can't wait to see what'll happen on a match-day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:14:09 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:54:13 PM
Oh and as for the journey for Clare people to Thurles not being comparable, It's 177km from Kilkee to Thurles,  mostly on back roads, which is further than Castlebar to Limerick. While it's slightly shorter for most Clare people to get to Thurles, it's a reasonably comparable journey for most of them.
;D ;D ;D ;D Please stop will ya.
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If you go by your beloved N84, which seems to be your preferred route, it's 235km from Belmullet to Limerick, not 250km.

Castlebar is roughly 50 miles (80kms) from each of Sligo, Galway, Roscommon and Belmullet. That makes it a handy 100 miles (160kms) from Belmullet to Galway. Are you saying it is 75km from Galway to Limerick? Because it shows up everywhere as 100km.

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Also, it's 200km from Limerick to Dublin. That's 200km less that every Kerry person will have to drive.

Exactly. And yet they want to go to Croker too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:20:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:10:44 AM

You don't seem to know that the Roscommon supporters were coming from the other side of Gort that day. Even from the other side the slip road onto the motorway is a known bottleneck. I can't wait to see what'll happen on a match-day.
You don't seem to know that Mayo supporters won't be coming that way, as you said they'd be traveling the same road. They won't.

Reading all this really makes me laugh, given the flak Dublin supporters took over Thurles in 2001, because it would appear that it's actually Mayo and Roscommon people who have far more trouble finding their way to an unfamiliar place.

I truly wish you all the very best of luck negotiating your way to the uncharted wasteland that is Limerick. No doubt there should be some cracking war stories to come out of Saturday, with hordes of green and red clad men and women getting lost down back roads and getting stuck in swamps etc.

Yours in cartography,
Sidney

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:14:09 AM


Exactly. And yet they want to go to Croker too.
That's funny because I don't hear many of them moaning. Have you been talking to Mick O'Dwyer, perhaps? I know he loves driving.

If you want to take up the issue of distances, I think you better take it up with the good people at Google Maps.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:26:22 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:20:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:10:44 AM

You don't seem to know that the Roscommon supporters were coming from the other side of Gort that day. Even from the other side the slip road onto the motorway is a known bottleneck. I can't wait to see what'll happen on a match-day.
You don't seem to know that Mayo supporters won't be coming that way, as you said they'd be traveling the same road. They won't.


Reading all this really makes me laugh, given the flak Dublin supporters took over Thurles in 2001, because it would appear that it's actually Mayo and Roscommon people who have far more trouble finding their way to an unfamiliar place.

I truly wish you all the very best of luck negotiating your way to the uncharted wasteland that is Limerick. No doubt there should be some cracking war stories to come out of Saturday, with hordes of green and red clad men and women getting lost down back roads and getting stuck in swamps etc.

Yours in cartography,
Sidney

Same blockages in Gort. Same road to Limerick/Ennis.

Nevermind the possibilities for more chaos in places like Tuam and Claregalway and the like. If anything Mayo supporters will have an even worse time of it than we had in 2006.

To be honest, it's seems you're enjoying roiling up people about an inane f**k-up on the GAA's part. The more you look at it the more indefensible it is as a decision and as an excuse why Saturday week is unavailable. Imaginary potential replay trumps actually-real replay. Brill.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:41:46 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:14:09 AM


Exactly. And yet they want to go to Croker too.
That's funny because I don't hear many of them moaning. Have you been talking to Mick O'Dwyer, perhaps? I know he loves driving.

If you want to take up the issue of distances, I think you better take it up with the good people at Google Maps.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mayos-appeal-against-limerick-replay-venue-likely-to-be-turned-down-283454.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mayos-appeal-against-limerick-replay-venue-likely-to-be-turned-down-283454.html)

"It's an unusual one alright," said Kerry boss Eamon Fitzmaurice. "At this stage of the summer we love coming to Croke Park. We love playing in Croke Park. The players love coming up here.

As for your Google Maps, just had a look and if you go from Castlebar to Galway, it suggests the N84, as it does from Belmullet to Galway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2014, 07:27:16 AM
Micko gets expenses for driving Sidney. Remember that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 08:44:24 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:41:46 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:14:09 AM


Exactly. And yet they want to go to Croker too.
That's funny because I don't hear many of them moaning. Have you been talking to Mick O'Dwyer, perhaps? I know he loves driving.

If you want to take up the issue of distances, I think you better take it up with the good people at Google Maps.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mayos-appeal-against-limerick-replay-venue-likely-to-be-turned-down-283454.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mayos-appeal-against-limerick-replay-venue-likely-to-be-turned-down-283454.html)

"It's an unusual one alright," said Kerry boss Eamon Fitzmaurice. "At this stage of the summer we love coming to Croke Park. We love playing in Croke Park. The players love coming up here.

As for your Google Maps, just had a look and if you go from Castlebar to Galway, it suggests the N84, as it does from Belmullet to Galway.

That's hardly complaining. Kerry fans will be happy out. Now if it was fixed for Galway you'd hear different.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 26, 2014, 08:48:21 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 25, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
Thurles would be even further than Limerick for Mayo I'd have thought?

If distance was the only issue then Limerick is hardly much further than Dublin.

Thurles has more covered seats than Limerick and is a better pitch.

/Jim.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 08:51:34 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:48:22 PM


Of course you do. You, from Dublin, would have more local knowledge of Castlebar to Galway than any Castlebar man.
What makes you think I wouldn't? Contrary to the you belief, some Dublin people do actually regularly travel out of Dublin, you know, and can actually be very familiar with such roads.

You on the other hand, appear to believe that Castlebar is nearer to Dublin than it is to Limerick.

Local knowledge, eh?
It's about time rather than distance innit .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2014, 09:50:16 AM
You're good at shit stirring Sidney. That and Canicw.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:26:22 AM

Same blockages in Gort. Same road to Limerick/Ennis.

Nevermind the possibilities for more chaos in places like Tuam and Claregalway and the like. If anything Mayo supporters will have an even worse time of it than we had in 2006.

To be honest, it's seems you're enjoying roiling up people about an inane f**k-up on the GAA's part. The more you look at it the more indefensible it is as a decision and as an excuse why Saturday week is unavailable. Imaginary potential replay trumps actually-real replay. Brill.
But it's not the same road to Limerick/Ennis. The M18 did not exist in 2006.

The GAA are dead right to consider the possibility of a Dublin-Donegal replay. Playing the Kerry-Mayo replay in Limerick is an insurance policy against double booking. Sure, the likelihood is that there will will be a definitive result in the Dublin-Donegal match, but if it's a draw and Croke Park is double booked, you end up with an almighty clusterfuck of a situation - and playing a Dublin-Donegal replay on September 13th and putting the All-Ireland final back a week, as at least one other poster suggested on another thread, is not an option.

Not planning for something which probably won't happen, but potentially might, is poor planning. The GAA have planned for it, and that's sensible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
Sidney, I think you're winding up the Mayo lads with your travel tips, but I think you are right about planning. Whether we like it or not, the GAA had a plan for a replay which went into force immediately on the final whistle on Sunday. They booked the American Football in the full knowledge that this plan would be needed, and they have put the plan in motion.

I think they will be surprised at how angry some folk are about this, and it may cause them to rethink in future, but I've no doubt they considered the possibility and that's why this alternative was in place.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 26, 2014, 10:24:38 AM
Wait to you hear the bitching if it pisses rain all day and all evening during the game on Saturday and the patrons get soaked.

Ponchos for sale just in case. You need to plan for the weather.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Greenabovethered on August 26, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
The GPA has been suspiciously quiet with regard to transferring the 2nd biggest game of the GAA calendar to a provincial backwater. Sorry I forgot, they have Donal's pet project the Super 11's in Croke Park before the America football (football, surely throwball?) on Sunday.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 11:03:12 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2014, 07:27:16 AM
Micko gets expenses for driving Sidney. Remember that.

Ah! that's the bit I was missing. Micko is Sidney's driver.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on August 26, 2014, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: Greenabovethered on August 26, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
The GPA has been suspiciously quiet with regard to transferring the 2nd biggest game of the GAA calendar to a provincial backwater. Sorry I forgot, they have Donal's pet project the Super 11's in Croke Park before the America football (football, surely throwball?) on Sunday.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

Exactly.... it'll mean a few more jollys out to the states, expenses paid,to play to a handful of people stood behind a rope.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Greenabovethered on August 26, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
The GPA has been suspiciously quiet with regard to transferring the 2nd biggest game of the GAA calendar to a provincial backwater. Sorry I forgot, they have Donal's pet project the Super 11's in Croke Park before the America football (football, surely throwball?) on Sunday.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
Of course if there was no kind of promotion of GAA-related activities on the day's programme of events people would be moaning about that too, and now that there is, we've moaning about that.

If you're looking for pigs they'll be dressed like this:

(http://c0.thejournal.ie/media/2013/02/gardai-26-390x285.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:33:55 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 08:44:24 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:41:46 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:26:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:14:09 AM


Exactly. And yet they want to go to Croker too.
That's funny because I don't hear many of them moaning. Have you been talking to Mick O'Dwyer, perhaps? I know he loves driving.

If you want to take up the issue of distances, I think you better take it up with the good people at Google Maps.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mayos-appeal-against-limerick-replay-venue-likely-to-be-turned-down-283454.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/mayos-appeal-against-limerick-replay-venue-likely-to-be-turned-down-283454.html)

"It's an unusual one alright," said Kerry boss Eamon Fitzmaurice. "At this stage of the summer we love coming to Croke Park. We love playing in Croke Park. The players love coming up here.

As for your Google Maps, just had a look and if you go from Castlebar to Galway, it suggests the N84, as it does from Belmullet to Galway.

That's hardly complaining. Kerry fans will be happy out. Now if it was fixed for Galway you'd hear different.

http://www.thescore.ie/tomas-o-se-1638493-Aug2014/ (http://www.thescore.ie/tomas-o-se-1638493-Aug2014/)

TOMÁS Ó SÉ believes it is 'wrong' that next Saturday's All-Ireland semi-final replay has been taken out of Croke Park.

The ex-Kerry defender, who won five All-Ireland titles and five Allstar awards in a stellar career, has also revealed the Gaelic Grounds was never a venue he found favour with during his playing days.

"I can only speak personally. I never enjoyed playing games in Limerick and it's no disrespect to Limerick. I don't know what it is.
"Some fields aren't football fields in my eyes. I didn't enjoy playing in Tralee either. I love Killarney. I love Pairc Ui Chaoimh and I love this place here (Croke Park).

"I think it's brilliant that American Football can come here but I mean it's a GAA field and it's our field. It was bad planning to put an American football game in our busiest window of the year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J OGorman on August 26, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 11:28:17 AM
Quote from: Greenabovethered on August 26, 2014, 10:59:33 AM
The GPA has been suspiciously quiet with regard to transferring the 2nd biggest game of the GAA calendar to a provincial backwater. Sorry I forgot, they have Donal's pet project the Super 11's in Croke Park before the America football (football, surely throwball?) on Sunday.

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."
Of course if there was no kind of promotion of GAA-related activities on the day's programme of events people would be moaning about that too, and now that there is, we've moaning about that.

If you're looking for pigs they'll be dressed like this:

(http://c0.thejournal.ie/media/2013/02/gardai-26-390x285.jpg)

you're quite the gangsta
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:48:22 PM


Of course you do. You, from Dublin, would have more local knowledge of Castlebar to Galway than any Castlebar man.
What makes you think I wouldn't? Contrary to the you belief, some Dublin people do actually regularly travel out of Dublin, you know, and can actually be very familiar with such roads.

You on the other hand, appear to believe that Castlebar is nearer to Dublin than it is to Limerick.

Local knowledge, eh?

Show me where I said that and you win. Gold medal and world record all in one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on August 26, 2014, 11:41:23 AM
The ever-excellent Keith Duggan sums up the situation very well

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-has-fumbled-the-ball-and-is-jerking-both-kerry-and-mayo-players-around-1.1907613?page=1 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-has-fumbled-the-ball-and-is-jerking-both-kerry-and-mayo-players-around-1.1907613?page=1)



A headline posted recently on the bleacherreport.com warned that next Saturday's NCAA football opener between Penn State and Central Florida scheduled for Croke Park is "Threatened by Potential Volcanic Eruption".

It was too much to hope that the good people at Bleacher had somehow pre-empted the unholy reaction of David Brady and other Mayo stalwarts to news that that Mayo and Kerry's All-Ireland semi-final replay was being shifted to Limerick to facilitate a game of American football.

Alas no, they were merely referring to the smoke emanating from Iceland. In keeping with the general theme, the county teams and fans weren't on the agenda.

Mayo manager James Horan chose the perfect word is his post-match reaction to news of Kerry and Mayo's being bumped to an off-Broadway venue. "Bizarre" just about sums up a situation which has Aidan O'Shea and Declan O'Sullivan running through their warm-ups for a huge championship match in a provincial ground while, on the same afternoon, Christian Hackenberg will be seeking to enhance his pass-completion record for the Nittany Lions in the GAA's theatre of dreams. It is bizarre and unprecedented.

Television viewers still reeling from the truly brilliant drawn match on Sunday must have assumed they misheard Michael Lyster declare that the replay would go ahead on Limerick on Saturday. Limerick! On Saturday? Why? At 5?

Within minutes the reason became clear. Speaking from Croke Park on RTÉ radio less than an hour after the match, former Kerry player Michael Quirke noted that cheerleaders from Penn State had taken the field to go through a practice routine. His tone was lighthearted but the observation contained a highly relevant point. Once the full-time whistle went on Sunday, American football was the only game in town as far as Croke Park was concerned.

The Croke Park Classic is a heavyweight money spinner. Sixteen thousand Americans flying in, 4,000 gridiron fans from around Europe and an estimated €30 million for the economy: what's not to love? Speaking on Today FM recently, Croke Park commercial director Peter McKenna emphasised the razzmatazz- the tailgating, the cheerleaders, the parachutist landing with the match ball, the Dublin Gospel Choir. It sounded great. Meanwhile, in the Gaelic Grounds, there's a fair chance the immersion will be switched on for the local lads.

The GAA has already lined up another American football classic for 2017 and hopes to host one every other year. Because it must be scheduled as a season opener in August, the busiest month of the GAA calendar in Croke Park, the GAA limited its options for replays in the All-Ireland championship. They must have silently hoped that this situation wouldn't come to pass. And fingers-crossed is not good enough. Main fault It could be argued that the main fault lies in the overall All-Ireland season scheduling. Mayo started their championship quest in the Bronx on May 4th. Their next match was on June 8th. They then played and won the Connacht final on July 13th. Three games, three months. Kerry, meanwhile, finished their league programme on April 6th and waited until June 22nd for their next competitive match, a Munster semi-final against Clare. They won their provincial final against Cork on July 4th. So an All-Ireland championship which begins with huge gaps between games demands that two of its last four teams prepare for a season-defining match with just a six-day turnaround. There is no reason why this stage of the season needs to be so congested.

Even within the existing framework, there is no reason why Mayo versus Kerry can't take place on Saturday, September 6th. The official explanation – that the GAA had to take into account the possibility of a draw between Dublin and Donegal next Sunday – is flawed. It inadvertently suggests – or perhaps betrays- the sense that the Dublin/Donegal fixture is somehow pre-eminent in the minds of those who run these matters. On Sunday evening, a Dublin/Donegal replay was a relatively faint possibility. A Kerry/Mayo replay had become a reality. Why not give that replay the September 6th slot and release a statement clarifying that should the Dublin/Donegal semi-final finish in a draw it would (a) take place in Croke Park as part of an All-Ireland semi-final double header with preference given to ticket-holders from the drawn match or that (b) both matches would take place in Croke Park at 2pm and 6pm, allowing the stadium to be cleared after the first match or (c) that the Dublin/Donegal replay would take place at an alternative venue, with all the attendant romance/novelty that comes with the rarity of Dublin playing championship matches on the road.

For neutrals, there is something tantalising about the pure novelty of a Saturday evening All-Ireland semi-final in Limerick. It is something unexpected – and less of a hike for both sets of supporters. Isn't fair But that is not the point. The situation isn't fair on either team. It means Mayo must travel and play in a venue which Kerry are well used to.

This is not to suggest it gives Kerry an advantage, necessarily: few teams respond to the liberation of playing in Croke Park as consistently as Kerry. There is no question that they would prefer to be going back to the Jones Road.

When teams reach the All-Ireland series, they are mentally locked into the idea of playing in Croke Park for the remainder of the season. It is a sacred place: playing there has always been regarded as something a reward in itself. To tamper with that is unfair on teams and managers. They work too hard, put too many hours in and get so little in recompense. They shouldn't be jerked around.

This latest embarrassment leaves the GAA more open than ever to accusations that money is the first and last consideration in its reasoning.

The bottom line is that Kerry and Mayo are playing in Limerick this Saturday to safeguard the possibility of a Dublin/Donegal draw and another full house in Croke Park on September 6th.

So a championship season which began with the controversy over the Sky broadcasting rights deal and had the Garth Brooks fiasco for its half-time entertainment is finishing by rewarding two teams which thrilled the country with the match of the summer with a take-it-or-leave it replay in Mick Mackey's old stomping ground.

The American visitors would recognise this for what it is. The GAA has fumbled the ball.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
From the above:

QuoteWithin minutes the reason became clear. Speaking from Croke Park on RTÉ radio less than an hour after the match, former Kerry player Michael Quirke noted that cheerleaders from Penn State had taken the field to go through a practice routine. His tone was lighthearted but the observation contained a highly relevant point. Once the full-time whistle went on Sunday, American football was the only game in town as far as Croke Park was concerned.

That says it all.

Cheerleaders from a US college get an opportunity to practice what Emyln Mulligan won't get to do for real.

Another annoying aspect is for Premium seat holders. You'd reasonably expect to get to see the semi-finals. God forbid they take this attitude with an All-Ireland Final due to a netball conference.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:48:22 PM


Of course you do. You, from Dublin, would have more local knowledge of Castlebar to Galway than any Castlebar man.
What makes you think I wouldn't? Contrary to the you belief, some Dublin people do actually regularly travel out of Dublin, you know, and can actually be very familiar with such roads.

You on the other hand, appear to believe that Castlebar is nearer to Dublin than it is to Limerick.

Local knowledge, eh?

Show me where I said that and you win. Gold medal and world record all in one.
Given that you've spent the last three or four pages moaning about getting to the significantly nearer Limerick, but appear to think getting to the significantly further away Dublin to be a breeze, one can draw logical conclusions.

Best of luck finding Limerick on Saturday. By the sounds of it, you'll need it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2014, 11:48:22 PM


Of course you do. You, from Dublin, would have more local knowledge of Castlebar to Galway than any Castlebar man.
What makes you think I wouldn't? Contrary to the you belief, some Dublin people do actually regularly travel out of Dublin, you know, and can actually be very familiar with such roads.

You on the other hand, appear to believe that Castlebar is nearer to Dublin than it is to Limerick.

Local knowledge, eh?

Show me where I said that and you win. Gold medal and world record all in one.
Given that you've spent the last three or four pages moaning about getting to the significantly nearer Limerick, but appear to think getting to the significantly further away Dublin to be a breeze, one can draw logical conclusions.

Best of luck finding Limerick on Saturday. By the sounds of it, you'll need it.

Caught out spoofing again then.

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:45:05 AM


Cheerleaders from a US college get an opportunity to practice what Emyln Mulligan won't get to do for real.

Get onto Croke Park to get them to fix the first round of next year's Connacht championship for Croke Park.

And also get onto them to scrap Cumman na mBunscoil matches while you're at it. Why should 12 year olds, some of whom probably prefer soccer, be allowed play there when Emlyn Mulligan can't?

Did Dublin supporters moan when Hill 16 was closed for the game against Laois in 2003 because the stage for the Special Olympics opening ceremony was being constructed? Did we fook. Going by your logic, why should Dublin supporters (and Laois supporter if so inclined  :P) not have been allowed stand on the Hill instead of making way for Bono and people from Africa and Asia? Thankfully we didn't take the Mayo approach of moaning and bitching about nothing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
From the above:

QuoteWithin minutes the reason became clear. Speaking from Croke Park on RTÉ radio less than an hour after the match, former Kerry player Michael Quirke noted that cheerleaders from Penn State had taken the field to go through a practice routine. His tone was lighthearted but the observation contained a highly relevant point. Once the full-time whistle went on Sunday, American football was the only game in town as far as Croke Park was concerned.

That says it all.

Cheerleaders from a US college get an opportunity to practice what Emyln Mulligan won't get to do for real.

Another annoying aspect is for Premium seat holders. You'd reasonably expect to get to see the semi-finals. God forbid they take this attitude with an All-Ireland Final due to a netball conference.

Emlyn wants to be a cheerleader?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:07:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:00:36 PM

Caught out spoofing again then.

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No need to be posting up pictures of yourself, now. I've already had enough of vain attention seekers on social media for one week.

It was Mayo that Craggy Island was set in, wasn't it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:08:35 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
From the above:

QuoteWithin minutes the reason became clear. Speaking from Croke Park on RTÉ radio less than an hour after the match, former Kerry player Michael Quirke noted that cheerleaders from Penn State had taken the field to go through a practice routine. His tone was lighthearted but the observation contained a highly relevant point. Once the full-time whistle went on Sunday, American football was the only game in town as far as Croke Park was concerned.

That says it all.

Cheerleaders from a US college get an opportunity to practice what Emyln Mulligan won't get to do for real.

Another annoying aspect is for Premium seat holders. You'd reasonably expect to get to see the semi-finals. God forbid they take this attitude with an All-Ireland Final due to a netball conference.

Emlyn wants to be a cheerleader?
We have a lesbian Rose of Tralee so I see no problem with this. I'm all for equality.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:04:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:45:05 AM


Cheerleaders from a US college get an opportunity to practice what Emyln Mulligan won't get to do for real.

Get onto Croke Park to get them to fix the first round of next year's Connacht championship for Croke Park.

And also get onto them to scrap Cumman na mBunscoil matches while you're at it. Why should 12 year olds, some of whom probably prefer soccer, be allowed play there when Emlyn Mulligan can't?

Did Dublin supporters moan when Hill 16 was closed for the game against Laois in 2003 because the stage for the Special Olympics opening ceremony was being constructed? Did we fook. Going by your logic, why should Dublin supporters (and Laois supporter if so inclined  :P) not have been allowed stand on the Hill instead of making way for Bono and people from Africa and Asia? Thankfully we didn't take the Mayo approach of moaning and bitching about nothing.

Do you understand that I am arguing for Croke Park to be used for Gaa? Is it that difficult to see?

Laois v Dublin 2003 was in Croke Park. God, imagine if the Dubs were booted out to the sticks, how you would react if you are upset over a terrace being closed in 2003.

And you are the one bitching and moaning. We are the ones who are actually affected and you have taken it upon yourself to whinge and argue the toss about something that has nothing to do with you and that you clearly know nothing about. 'Clare to Thurles is comparable with Mayo to Limerick'.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 11:45:05 AM
From the above:

QuoteWithin minutes the reason became clear. Speaking from Croke Park on RTÉ radio less than an hour after the match, former Kerry player Michael Quirke noted that cheerleaders from Penn State had taken the field to go through a practice routine. His tone was lighthearted but the observation contained a highly relevant point. Once the full-time whistle went on Sunday, American football was the only game in town as far as Croke Park was concerned.

That says it all.

Cheerleaders from a US college get an opportunity to practice what Emyln Mulligan won't get to do for real.

Another annoying aspect is for Premium seat holders. You'd reasonably expect to get to see the semi-finals. God forbid they take this attitude with an All-Ireland Final due to a netball conference.

Emlyn wants to be a cheerleader?

If he wants to get onto the hallowed ground he may need to consider this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 12:20:21 PM
Or transfer to Dublin. Sure they are never off it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 26, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
I don't understand the fuss about playing the replay in Limerick.
The Dubs still fondly remember playing 'down the country' in 1983. Tipp's breakthrough in Munster in 1987 has an extra bit of novelty as it happened off the beaten path in Killarney.

Several media reports have been incorrect, the last All Ireland semi final to be played outside of Croke Park was in 1998, when Offaly played Clare in a re-fixture.

Mayo should also note that Thurles was an unfamiliar venue to Offaly and a second home to Clare. The reason Thurles was picked was a sop to Clare after their misfortune in having Jimmy Cooney blow  full time 5 minutes early. In the build up, there was little complaint from Clare over the Jimmy Cooney incident, as the consensus was they going to scorch Offaly's aging team on the bigger Thurles pitch with their legendary fitness. They'd let a 10 point lead shrink to 3 points when Cooney intervened and weren't going to be as charitable this time.

My own opinion and that of many others was that Offaly's semi-final win over Clare in Thurles was a more memorable occasion than subsequent the All Ireland win over Kilkenny. The tension and atmosphere was electric and better than any of the games in Croke Park.

Down in Limerick you'll have a terrace behind the goals allocated to each county leading to a better sense of theatre. Anyone who is there will have made the effort, as opposed to waking up covered in last night's curry in their Drumcondra flat, an hour before throw in, and stumbling down to Croke Park.

If Mayo win the All Ireland, they'll be talking about the pilgrimage to Limerick for decades.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:21:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 26, 2014, 12:20:21 PM
Or transfer to Dublin. Sure they are never off it.

That would be tearing D'arse out of it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 26, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
I don't understand the fuss about playing the replay in Limerick.
The Dubs still fondly remember playing 'down the country' in 1983. Tipp's breakthrough in Munster in 1987 has an extra bit of novelty as it happened off the beaten path in Killarney.

Several media reports have been incorrect, the last All Ireland semi final to be played outside of Croke Park was in 1998, when Offaly played Clare in a re-fixture.

Mayo should also note that Thurles was an unfamiliar venue to Offaly and a second home to Clare. The reason Thurles was picked was a sop to Clare after their misfortune in having Jimmy Cooney blow  full time 5 minutes early. In the build up, there was little complaint from Clare over the Jimmy Cooney incident, as the consensus was they going to scorch Offaly's aging team on the bigger Thurles pitch with their legendary fitness. They'd let a 10 point lead shrink to 3 points when Cooney intervened and weren't going to be as charitable this time.

My own opinion and that of many others was that Offaly's semi-final win over Clare in Thurles was a more memorable occasion than subsequent the All Ireland win over Kilkenny. The tension atmosphere was electric and better than any of the games in Croke Park.

Down in Limerick you'll have a terrace behind the goals allocated to each county leading to a better sense of theatre. Anyone who is there will have made the effort, as opposed to waking up covered in last night's curry in their Drumcondra flat, an hour before throw in, and stumbling down to Croke Park.

If Mayo win the All Ireland, they'll be talking about the pilgrimage to Limerick for decades.

BNMM The tickets are available online to anyone.

As for the bold, that would be true regardless of what happens. But I am still expecting a mess at 1700 on saturday. I am hoping that the trains are running.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 26, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
I am hoping that the trains are running.

They are running a test train from Claremorris to Tuam as we speak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mPbrRjCnhmk#t=64

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:36:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 26, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
I am hoping that the trains are running.

They are running a test train from Claremorris to Tuam as we speak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mPbrRjCnhmk#t=64

That is the N84 in good weather.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 26, 2014, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 26, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
I don't understand the fuss about playing the replay in Limerick.
The Dubs still fondly remember playing 'down the country' in 1983. Tipp's breakthrough in Munster in 1987 has an extra bit of novelty as it happened off the beaten path in Killarney.

Several media reports have been incorrect, the last All Ireland semi final to be played outside of Croke Park was in 1998, when Offaly played Clare in a re-fixture.

Mayo should also note that Thurles was an unfamiliar venue to Offaly and a second home to Clare. The reason Thurles was picked was a sop to Clare after their misfortune in having Jimmy Cooney blow  full time 5 minutes early. In the build up, there was little complaint from Clare over the Jimmy Cooney incident, as the consensus was they going to scorch Offaly's aging team on the bigger Thurles pitch with their legendary fitness. They'd let a 10 point lead shrink to 3 points when Cooney intervened and weren't going to be as charitable this time.

My own opinion and that of many others was that Offaly's semi-final win over Clare in Thurles was a more memorable occasion than subsequent the All Ireland win over Kilkenny. The tension atmosphere was electric and better than any of the games in Croke Park.

Down in Limerick you'll have a terrace behind the goals allocated to each county leading to a better sense of theatre. Anyone who is there will have made the effort, as opposed to waking up covered in last night's curry in their Drumcondra flat, an hour before throw in, and stumbling down to Croke Park.

If Mayo win the All Ireland, they'll be talking about the pilgrimage to Limerick for decades.

BNMM The tickets are available online to anyone.

As for the bold, that would be true regardless of what happens. But I am still expecting a mess at 1700 on saturday. I am hoping that the trains are running.
I'd assume the Clare End terrace would be the natural stomping ground for Mayo as the majority will be coming down the N18. The City End for Kerry lads coming up from the South, assuming they won't pay to go through the tunnel.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:42:20 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 26, 2014, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 26, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
I don't understand the fuss about playing the replay in Limerick.
The Dubs still fondly remember playing 'down the country' in 1983. Tipp's breakthrough in Munster in 1987 has an extra bit of novelty as it happened off the beaten path in Killarney.

Several media reports have been incorrect, the last All Ireland semi final to be played outside of Croke Park was in 1998, when Offaly played Clare in a re-fixture.

Mayo should also note that Thurles was an unfamiliar venue to Offaly and a second home to Clare. The reason Thurles was picked was a sop to Clare after their misfortune in having Jimmy Cooney blow  full time 5 minutes early. In the build up, there was little complaint from Clare over the Jimmy Cooney incident, as the consensus was they going to scorch Offaly's aging team on the bigger Thurles pitch with their legendary fitness. They'd let a 10 point lead shrink to 3 points when Cooney intervened and weren't going to be as charitable this time.

My own opinion and that of many others was that Offaly's semi-final win over Clare in Thurles was a more memorable occasion than subsequent the All Ireland win over Kilkenny. The tension atmosphere was electric and better than any of the games in Croke Park.

Down in Limerick you'll have a terrace behind the goals allocated to each county leading to a better sense of theatre. Anyone who is there will have made the effort, as opposed to waking up covered in last night's curry in their Drumcondra flat, an hour before throw in, and stumbling down to Croke Park.

If Mayo win the All Ireland, they'll be talking about the pilgrimage to Limerick for decades.

BNMM The tickets are available online to anyone.

As for the bold, that would be true regardless of what happens. But I am still expecting a mess at 1700 on saturday. I am hoping that the trains are running.
I'd assume the Clare End terrace would be the natural stomping ground for Mayo as the majority will be coming down the N18. The City End for Kerry lads coming up from the South, assuming they won't pay to go through the tunnel.

I was guessing the same thing and bought tickets for the Clare End Terrace. Planning on staying the night now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:10:58 PM


Do you understand that I am arguing for Croke Park to be used for Gaa? Is it that difficult to see?

Laois v Dublin 2003 was in Croke Park. God, imagine if the Dubs were booted out to the sticks, how you would react if you are upset over a terrace being closed in 2003.
The point is, Dublin supporters did not moan over the Hill being closed, despite it arguably contributing to our loss that day (that wasn't a very good Dublin team and they needed all the help they could get). And we didn't moan in 1983 when were brought down to Cork, or 2001 to Thurles, or when the hurlers were brought to Thurles to play Tipp.

We'd be delighted to get a game "in the sticks", as you call it.


Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
And you are the one bitching and moaning. We are the ones who are actually affected and you have taken it upon yourself to whinge and argue the toss about something that has nothing to do with you and that you clearly know nothing about. 'Clare to Thurles is comparable with Mayo to Limerick'.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
I haven't bitched and moaned at all. I've merely made fun of your bitching and moaning, and boy have you provided the ammunition.

Yes, the utter hardship of being brought to a venue nearer to you than Croke Park. My heart bleeds for you, it really does.

Again, look at the map and do out the distances if don't think people from many parts of Clare have a comparable distance to travel to Thurles to people from many parts of Mayo going to Limerick. You'd think it was on their doorstep, the way you go on. Oh but it's in the same province, so it must be only a few miles down the road.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:10:58 PM


Do you understand that I am arguing for Croke Park to be used for Gaa? Is it that difficult to see?

Laois v Dublin 2003 was in Croke Park. God, imagine if the Dubs were booted out to the sticks, how you would react if you are upset over a terrace being closed in 2003.
The point is, Dublin supporters did not moan over the Hill being closed, despite it arguably contributing to our loss that day (that wasn't a very good Dublin team and they needed all the help they could get). And we didn't moan in 1983 when were brought down to Cork, or 2001 to Thurles, or when the hurlers were brought to Thurles to play Tipp.

We'd be delighted to get a game "in the sticks", as you call it.


Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
And you are the one bitching and moaning. We are the ones who are actually affected and you have taken it upon yourself to whinge and argue the toss about something that has nothing to do with you and that you clearly know nothing about. 'Clare to Thurles is comparable with Mayo to Limerick'.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
I haven't bitched and moaned at all. I've merely made fun of your bitching and moaning, and boy have you provided the ammunition.

Yes, the utter hardship of being brought to a venue nearer to you than Croke Park. My heart bleeds for you, it really does.

Again, look at the map and do out the distances if don't think people from many parts of Clare have a comparable distance to travel to Thurles to people from many parts of Mayo going to Limerick. You'd think it was on their doorstep, the way you go on. Oh but it's in the same province, so it must be only a few miles down the road.

Yes you picked Kilkee. I'll pick Blacksod, which is 259kms from Limerick. Mayo's furthers is miles further than Clare's furthest, and that takes the motorway for almost half of its 168km, obviously to dave time.

Also the route on Google Maps from Belmullet to Limerick has a left turn for Caherlistrane before Headford. This is the L2704 followed by the R333. Some roads there boy, but then your local knowledge would know to avoid crap roads like that. That explains the difference in our distances. Most people travelling via Ballinrobe will go through Headford and stay on the N84.

N84 v L2074 doesn't sound like much of a choice does it?

But all along you conveniently miss the point. It is about time not distance. It is also about familiarity. Like the Dubs getting lost with an unfamiliar venue in Thurles (153kms), Mayo have no experience as supporters or players with the logistics of Limerick at 5pm on a Saturday. Kerry may not have much experience but they have more than us. Both teams have plenty of experience in Croke Park.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 26, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
It was proposed way back in February that should there be a replay in this semi final then it would be at a venue to be announced. These fixtures are decided by elected representatives from the 4 provinces. it's late in the day to moan about men in suits shafting the tradition for the lure of wealth.
The alternative the other day, was to take a chance that Dublin and Donegal would not draw their game, or have 2 replays on the same day at CP.  I'd have offered that option to all semi finalists to agree upon.
I am only a casual observer of  American Football but I would 100% support the collective decision of the GAA to have this magnificent event in August (remember bailing out Kildare  and financing Dublin's coaching etc does not come cheap).
Maybe the fixture calendar can be arranged differently in future.
The last big championship game outside CP I remember was the Dublin v Kerry classic in Thurles and memories from that game still live large in most anybody who watched it on tv,  never mind those who witnessed it live or tried to amidst the gridlocked  holiday traffic chaos in bogland.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 26, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
It was proposed way back in February that should there be a replay in this semi final then it would be at a venue to be announced. These fixtures are decided by elected representatives from the 4 provinces. it's late in the day to moan about men in suits shafting the tradition for the lure of wealth.
The alternative the other day, was to take a chance that Dublin and Donegal would not draw their game, or have 2 replays on the same day at CP.  I'd have offered that option to all semi finalists to agree upon.
I am only a casual observer of  American Football but I would 100% support the collective decision of the GAA to have this magnificent event in August (remember bailing out Kildare  and financing Dublin's coaching etc does not come cheap).
Maybe the fixture calendar can be arranged differently in future.
The last big championship game outside CP I remember was the Dublin v Kerry classic in Thurles and memories from that game still live large in most anybody who watched it on tv,  never mind those who witnessed it live or tried to amidst the gridlocked  holiday traffic chaos in bogland.

What manager or County Board will make themselves a hostage to fortune by giving out about semi-final replay arrangements in advance?

Do you not know that everyone 'takes it just one game at a time'?   ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Put Up That Flag on August 26, 2014, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:10:44 AM
Quote from: Sidney on August 26, 2014, 12:08:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 26, 2014, 12:05:53 AM

What in God's name are you talking about? You seem to be totally bluffing at this stage. I've never got caught in traffic in any of those towns on a match-day and I just might have a bit more local knowledge on this one that you do.

Ballagh only seriously bottlenecks on Fridays after Nathys (the secondary school) closes on week-days or if you're a fecking truck driver and get jack-knifed turning for the Castlebar road in the middle of town. Not much else causes a problem. Mart days are the only thing that does it in Castlerea and those are never on Sundays or even Saturdays. There was work on a problem bridge between Castlerea and Ballymoe for a good stetch last year meaning there was only one lane of traffic on a section of that road for a while but I hope you're not marking that a bottleneck comparable to what will happen on Saturday.

Match-days doesn't make any of those towns major bottlenecks.
If you want to talk about bluffing, let me refer you to your post where you didn't even know that Gort had been bypassed.

You don't seem to know that the Roscommon supporters were coming from the other side of Gort that day. Even from the other side the slip road onto the motorway is a known bottleneck. I can't wait to see what'll happen on a match-day.

How would you know? Firstly Mayo weren't playing so you wouldnt have been at it anyways probably and secondly you were probably in your baby seat in the back playing with your rattler in 2006.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such

in fairness
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such
in fairness
like
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on August 26, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such
in fairness
like
Perhaps
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 26, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 26, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such
in fairness
like
Perhaps
y'know
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 26, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 26, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 26, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such
in fairness
like
Perhaps
y'know
alluded to
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 26, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 26, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 26, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 26, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such

in fairness
like
Perhaps
y'know
alluded to

You know
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 26, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 26, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 26, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such

in fairness
like
Perhaps
y'know
alluded to
You know
I mean
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2014, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 26, 2014, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 26, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 26, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 26, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
But lookit.
as such

in fairness
like
Perhaps
y'know
alluded to

You know
Ah now

We've already had y'know.
I suppose
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 26, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 26, 2014, 05:51:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 26, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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Okey doke.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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Okey doke.
Intinsity
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
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We'll leave it there so.....

Okey doke.

God bless.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 26, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
Shur...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 26, 2014, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 26, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
Shur...

Houl on, there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 26, 2014, 10:51:07 PM
Right lads we have her sussed. We now have the single transferable post match interview using the above words...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 27, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 26, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
It was proposed way back in February that should there be a replay in this semi final then it would be at a venue to be announced. These fixtures are decided by elected representatives from the 4 provinces. it's late in the day to moan about men in suits shafting the tradition for the lure of wealth.
The alternative the other day, was to take a chance that Dublin and Donegal would not draw their game, or have 2 replays on the same day at CP.  I'd have offered that option to all semi finalists to agree upon.
I am only a casual observer of  American Football but I would 100% support the collective decision of the GAA to have this magnificent event in August (remember bailing out Kildare  and financing Dublin's coaching etc does not come cheap).
Maybe the fixture calendar can be arranged differently in future.
The last big championship game outside CP I remember was the Dublin v Kerry classic in Thurles and memories from that game still live large in most anybody who watched it on tv,  never mind those who witnessed it live or tried to amidst the gridlocked  holiday traffic chaos in bogland.

What manager or County Board will make themselves a hostage to fortune by giving out about semi-final replay arrangements in advance?

Do you not know that everyone 'takes it just one game at a time'?   ;D
Precisely Muppet, Mayo are are exhibiting the worst of  narrow mé féinisn.
Way back last spring, the mayo/connacht  representatives on the CCCC had no objection to the proposed fixture schedule, which included the glaring stand out semi final replay at a venue to be announced and as long as it was some other team it was okay, but as soon as their game ends in a replay they are moaning and groaning as if it was somebody else who decided this. The facts are,  whoever is the mayo rep, gave the rubber stamp to the provisional  fixtures list but now have not got the moral backbone to lump it and support the collective.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 27, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
I can just see the headlines for that one Main Street: "Expectant Mayo County Board opposing scheduling of "their" semi-final in 9 months time"  ;D ;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 03:03:59 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 27, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 26, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 26, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
It was proposed way back in February that should there be a replay in this semi final then it would be at a venue to be announced. These fixtures are decided by elected representatives from the 4 provinces. it's late in the day to moan about men in suits shafting the tradition for the lure of wealth.
The alternative the other day, was to take a chance that Dublin and Donegal would not draw their game, or have 2 replays on the same day at CP.  I'd have offered that option to all semi finalists to agree upon.
I am only a casual observer of  American Football but I would 100% support the collective decision of the GAA to have this magnificent event in August (remember bailing out Kildare  and financing Dublin's coaching etc does not come cheap).
Maybe the fixture calendar can be arranged differently in future.
The last big championship game outside CP I remember was the Dublin v Kerry classic in Thurles and memories from that game still live large in most anybody who watched it on tv,  never mind those who witnessed it live or tried to amidst the gridlocked  holiday traffic chaos in bogland.

What manager or County Board will make themselves a hostage to fortune by giving out about semi-final replay arrangements in advance?

Do you not know that everyone 'takes it just one game at a time'?   ;D
Precisely Muppet, Mayo are are exhibiting the worst of  narrow mé féinisn.
Way back last spring, the mayo/connacht  representatives on the CCCC had no objection to the proposed fixture schedule, which included the glaring stand out semi final replay at a venue to be announced and as long as it was some other team it was okay, but as soon as their game ends in a replay they are moaning and groaning as if it was somebody else who decided this. The facts are,  whoever is the mayo rep, gave the rubber stamp to the provisional  fixtures list but now have not got the moral backbone to lump it and support the collective.

You precisely and completely missed my point. No one from any county would whinge about a semi-final replay at the start of the season.

Secondly, a stadium to be confirmed, does not mean Limerick, dies it? A munster stadium, with the fixture being organised by the Munster Council, for the two Provincial Champions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
Muppet, I'm confused. What exactly is the issue with Limerick. It seems to waver between

1 - It's a terrible journey from Mayo
2 - The traffic will be cat in Limerick
3 - It's too close to Kerry
4 - It's a munster venue and munster v connacht champions
5 - It's not Croke Park

What's the main issue, or is it all of the above?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 03:24:31 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:08:49 PM
Muppet, I'm confused. What exactly is the issue with Limerick. It seems to waver between

1 - It's a terrible journey from Mayo
2 - The traffic will be cat in Limerick
3 - It's too close to Kerry
4 - It's a munster venue and munster v connacht champions
5 - It's not Croke Park

What's the main issue, or is it all of the above?

The main issue is it is an AI semi-final and it should be in Croke Park. It could still be in Croke Park but they are keeping a slot vacant so as not to discommode Dublin in the event of a draw.
The rest of the reasons are all valid but secondary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

However, now that it's in Limerick I think it's a great thing for the city and it should be a great occasion and a full house. If I wasn't at the American Football, I'd certainly be in at it, and having a few pints in Nancy's or The Office or Tom Collins' afterwards. Enjoy the visit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

However, now that it's in Limerick I think it's a great thing for the city and it should be a great occasion and a full house. If I wasn't at the American Football, I'd certainly be in at it, and having a few pints in Nancy's or The Office or Tom Collins' afterwards. Enjoy the visit.

Don't worry, I am definitely going.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2014, 03:36:15 PM
Then shut up giving out!













#Mayo4Sam
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

Don't think any of those college teams want to travel overseas in the middle of their season which is why it's nearly always the first game that they are willing to go abroad for.

The NFL teams don't really want to either but the NFL makes them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

Don't think any of those college teams want to travel overseas in the middle of their season which is why it's nearly always the first game that they are willing to go abroad for.

The NFL teams don't really want to either but the NFL makes them.

And wtf will they do if the College game is a draw? Where will THAT replay be?


Actually I was thinking, why don't we forget Croke Park altogether? We can have a 'series' for the semi-finals and final. Just like the Baseball (Rounders) and Basketball (1970s Gaelic Football) in the States. Mayo Kerry could play 3 games on a home and away basis (the higher placed team in the League gets 2 home games) and the AIF can be a series of 5 games. This would fill the 8 weeks from quarter finals to final nicely. Think of the opportunities for Provincial grounds and think of the excitement!

Jinxy to show I have no hard feelings for your telling me to shut up - I am happy to let you bring the idea to Congress.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2014, 04:03:21 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2014, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

Don't think any of those college teams want to travel overseas in the middle of their season which is why it's nearly always the first game that they are willing to go abroad for.

The NFL teams don't really want to either but the NFL makes them.

And wtf will they do if the College game is a draw? Where will THAT replay be?


Actually I was thinking, why don't we forget Croke Park altogether? We can have a 'series' for the semi-finals and final. Just like the Baseball (Rounders) and Basketball (1970s Gaelic Football) in the States. Mayo Kerry could play 3 games on a home and away basis (the higher placed team in the League gets 2 home games) and the AIF can be a series of 5 games. This would fill the 8 weeks from quarter finals to final nicely. Think of the opportunities for Provincial grounds and think of the excitement!

Jinxy to show I have no hard feelings for your telling me to shut up - I am happy to let you bring the idea to Congress.  ;D
Muppet- it's not just exciting. The NFL is a $5bn business  and most of the ads occur during the playoffs. The GAA is missing massive marketing opportunities with this old fashioned "let the best team win" stuff.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2014, 04:03:21 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2014, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

Don't think any of those college teams want to travel overseas in the middle of their season which is why it's nearly always the first game that they are willing to go abroad for.

The NFL teams don't really want to either but the NFL makes them.

And wtf will they do if the College game is a draw? Where will THAT replay be?


Actually I was thinking, why don't we forget Croke Park altogether? We can have a 'series' for the semi-finals and final. Just like the Baseball (Rounders) and Basketball (1970s Gaelic Football) in the States. Mayo Kerry could play 3 games on a home and away basis (the higher placed team in the League gets 2 home games) and the AIF can be a series of 5 games. This would fill the 8 weeks from quarter finals to final nicely. Think of the opportunities for Provincial grounds and think of the excitement!

Jinxy to show I have no hard feelings for your telling me to shut up - I am happy to let you bring the idea to Congress.  ;D
Muppet- it's not just exciting. The NFL is a $5bn business  and most of the ads occur during the playoffs. The GAA is missing massive marketing opportunities with this old fashioned "let the best team win" stuff.

Think of the atmosphere in McHale Park and Fitzgerald Stadium! I suspect Kerry, whatever about us, would manage to keep dates in August & September free to avoid clashes. Think of the Dubs up in Ballybofey at the weekend. And imagine the atmosphere at an AISF in Parnell Park! Wow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

Don't think any of those college teams want to travel overseas in the middle of their season which is why it's nearly always the first game that they are willing to go abroad for.

The NFL teams don't really want to either but the NFL makes them.

I know GBB, but I'm saying if you had to have a game in Croker, better to try and negotiate on those terms. If not, I don't think they should be scheduling the game for peak GAA season in Croke Park.

Maybe a redeveloped Pairc, or Thurles would be better, but in my opinion this is something that just doesn't 'fit' with the GAA schedules, and should be played in the Aviva instead.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 03:27:05 PM
I agree it should be in Croke Park, and I think the American Football scheduling was a disaster. (Most College teams have a bye week in the middle of their schedule, I think you could have had a game in October if you wanted to have it in Croke Park)

Don't think any of those college teams want to travel overseas in the middle of their season which is why it's nearly always the first game that they are willing to go abroad for.

The NFL teams don't really want to either but the NFL makes them.

I know GBB, but I'm saying if you had to have a game in Croker, better to try and negotiate on those terms. If not, I don't think they should be scheduling the game for peak GAA season in Croke Park.

Maybe a redeveloped Pairc, or Thurles would be better, but in my opinion this is something that just doesn't 'fit' with the GAA schedules, and should be played in the Aviva instead.

This is it in a nutshell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
I'm sure Croke Park are eyeing up that third Wembley NFL game, this year is all about putting themselves on the map for major American football games. They stole a march on the Aviva getting this match and were attendence to exceed the 50k capacity of the Aviva the gravy train is going to start rolling in their direction.

NFL regular season games would be in the dream slot for the GAA, total dead season for Croke Park.

For me the refusal to use Sept. 6th is the big f**k-up in all this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Yup, the NFL is the target, Peter McKenna more or less admitted that, but London will be hard to dislodge now. He also mentioned that. The NFL probably won't want a two city European element. I think they will stay with London.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2014, 05:21:56 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 27, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Yup, the NFL is the target, Peter McKenna more or less admitted that, but London will be hard to dislodge now. He also mentioned that. The NFL probably won't want a two city European element. I think they will stay with London.

Think they'll have trouble filling Wembley for a third game, the NFL will hopefully start looking to other places. When you put on that many games in quick succession the novelty factor greatly reduces and the big traveling hordes (from Ireland, the continent) will likely decrease.

Germany and Ireland would be the front-runners in the race to host one of those games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Ireland will currently not get an NFL game, germany are the front runners................................the reps from the NFL were less than impressed with Croke Park
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Ireland will currently not get an NFL game, germany are the front runners................................the reps from the NFL were less than impressed with Croke Park

If they quickly promise to ban the rest of the natives, turn Drumcondra into a car park and re-name the whole thing The Dollar Bowl, the day might be saved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Ireland will currently not get an NFL game, germany are the front runners................................the reps from the NFL were less than impressed with Croke Park

If they quickly promise to ban the rest of the natives, turn Drumcondra into a car park and re-name the whole thing The Dollar Bowl, the day might be saved.
Could always use McHale Park - isn't there a big car park there? I think the Mayo players used to push cars around it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Ireland will currently not get an NFL game, germany are the front runners................................the reps from the NFL were less than impressed with Croke Park

If they quickly promise to ban the rest of the natives, turn Drumcondra into a car park and re-name the whole thing The Dollar Bowl, the day might be saved.
Could always use McHale Park - isn't there a big car park there? I think the Mayo players used to push cars around it.

That was Dunne Stores' car park. Tut tut.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 27, 2014, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 27, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
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Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Ireland will currently not get an NFL game, germany are the front runners................................the reps from the NFL were less than impressed with Croke Park

If they quickly promise to ban the rest of the natives, turn Drumcondra into a car park and re-name the whole thing The Dollar Bowl, the day might be saved.
Could always use McHale Park - isn't there a big car park there? I think the Mayo players used to push cars around it.

That was Dunne Stores' car park. Tut tut.

That's what happens when you put a Dub at the helm! :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2014, 09:07:41 PM

That's what happens when you put a Dub at the helm! :)
He was probably just taking the piss out of you. That's pretty easy to do to Mayo people. That or he asked Liam McHale to be more aggressive at training and push (Peter) Forde out of the way, McHale took it literally and the rest of the players followed suit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 27, 2014, 09:30:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2014, 09:07:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 27, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 27, 2014, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2014, 07:39:48 PM
Ireland will currently not get an NFL game, germany are the front runners................................the reps from the NFL were less than impressed with Croke Park

If they quickly promise to ban the rest of the natives, turn Drumcondra into a car park and re-name the whole thing The Dollar Bowl, the day might be saved.
Could always use McHale Park - isn't there a big car park there? I think the Mayo players used to push cars around it.

That was Dunne Stores' car park. Tut tut.

That's what happens when you put a Dub at the helm! :)

Poor Sidney

(https://theclemreport.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/td4d592_sideshow-bob-steps-on-rakes-o.gif)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2014, 10:08:57 PM
Quote from: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 27, 2014, 09:07:41 PM

That's what happens when you put a Dub at the helm! :)
He was probably just taking the piss out of you. That's pretty easy to do to Mayo people. That or he asked Liam McHale to be more aggressive at training and push (Peter) Forde out of the way, McHale took it literally and the rest of the players followed suit.
Easy enough with Dubs too. Ja know that sorta way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 11:26:31 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2014, 10:08:57 PM

Easy enough with Dubs too. Ja know that sorta way.
Well there's a few Mayo posters swinging wildly and missing here. A bit like their forwards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2014, 11:32:31 PM
It's grand Sidney. You dislike us. We're ok about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 27, 2014, 11:37:18 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2014, 11:32:31 PM
It's grand Sidney. You dislike us. We're ok about it.
I don't dislike Mayo at all. I was shouting for you on Sunday and would be quite happy to see you win the All-Ireland. It's the incessant whinging and moaning from Mayo supporters over the venue I don't like, and frankly, you're making fools of yourselves over it, some more than others.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2014, 08:33:14 AM
Slightly off-topic but........Belfast Saturday afternoon/evening.
Where are the best pubs around city centre to catch the GAA on as well as cater for soccer heads who wanna see the evenin kick off?
Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 28, 2014, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2014, 08:33:14 AM
Slightly off-topic but........Belfast Saturday afternoon/evening.
Where are the best pubs around city centre to catch the GAA on as well as cater for soccer heads who wanna see the evenin kick off?
Cheers in advance.


Go to reply #215 onwards on this thread BT.

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=10799.210

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on August 31, 2014, 10:55:41 AM
No one mentioning the Mexican stand off between brolly and lyster??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 31, 2014, 12:12:23 PM
Where s Spillane this weather ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on August 31, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 31, 2014, 12:12:23 PM
Where s Spillane this weather ?
He did the radio analysis yesterday with McStay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 31, 2014, 02:38:50 PM
I was happy, on balance, with the decision to play the semi-final in Limerick and thought it would be a great occasion, which it turned out to be, as far as can be judged from T.V. But, even with that attitude, I have to wonder what's going on with the RTÉ/GAA setup. From the start of coverage yesterday, Lyster was going out of his way to repeat and repeat how great the setup was in Limerick and imply that all the hubbub about the venue was misinformed. Then we got Mouthy Morrissey cackling on continuously throughout the commentary about the same. You have to wonder about these two and what motivation/incentive they have to talk up every official GAA decision/position.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 31, 2014, 02:38:50 PM
I was happy, on balance, with the decision to play the semi-final in Limerick and thought it would be a great occasion, which it turned out to be, as far as can be judged from T.V. But, even with that attitude, I have to wonder what's going on with the RTÉ/GAA setup. From the start of coverage yesterday, Lyster was going out of his way to repeat and repeat how great the setup was in Limerick and imply that all the hubbub about the venue was misinformed. Then we got Mouthy Morrissey cackling on continuously throughout the commentary about the same. You have to wonder about these two and what motivation/incentive they have to talk up every official GAA decision/position.

There will be this that and the other said about the venue. Yesterdays game felt like a back door game, even a league game. It demeaned this All Ireland semi final. There was a feck up with seats sold that did not exist and these fans ended up sitting with panel members from both teams. The stuff at the end with fans coming on added to the discomfort of a big game in a minor venue. Not good enough. Was a long journey back last night through sh1te roads. Second class citizens.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Agent Orange on August 31, 2014, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
There will be this that and the other said about the venue. Yesterdays game felt like a back door game, even a league game. It demeaned this All Ireland semi final. There was a feck up with seats sold that did not exist and these fans ended up sitting with panel members from both teams. The stuff at the end with fans coming on added to the discomfort of a big game in a minor venue. Not good enough. Was a long journey back last night through sh1te roads. Second class citizens.

When you win these things don't matter but it's always a long journey home when you lose.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 31, 2014, 07:30:40 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on August 31, 2014, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 03:00:24 PM
There will be this that and the other said about the venue. Yesterdays game felt like a back door game, even a league game. It demeaned this All Ireland semi final. There was a feck up with seats sold that did not exist and these fans ended up sitting with panel members from both teams. The stuff at the end with fans coming on added to the discomfort of a big game in a minor venue. Not good enough. Was a long journey back last night through sh1te roads. Second class citizens.

When you win these things don't matter but it's always a long journey home when you lose.

Only 40 mins from CP to Kildare never feels long...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on August 31, 2014, 09:00:50 PM
In yer s u v's
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Des Cahill is going to go into Joe Duffy overdrive tonight over the last few mins in yesterdays game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 31, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Des Cahill is going to go into Joe Duffy overdrive tonight over the last few mins in yesterdays game.

That is the big question over tonight's programme for me. If they are consistent they will highlight the initial brawl, the manhandling of a Mayo back room team member and the pitch incursion by a Mayo supporter as well as an attack on an Garda Siochana after the final whistle by another yob. I don't wish to see any suspensions handed out to players for the final but it was a similar incident to the Armagh v Cavan brawl which received days of headlines following the scrutiny and criticism received on the TV. I predict that they will skirt over the initial brawl and instead concentrate on the pitch incursion by a supporter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 10:50:26 PM
Fair dues to McStay!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
Tomas O`Se mentioned he been attacked after a game one time against Kerry, couldn't understand it as Tyrone won, Tomas imagine if u beat them u been fighting them off lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 10:55:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
Tomas O`Se mentioned he been attacked after a game one time against Kerry, couldn't understand it as Tyrone won, Tomas imagine if u beat them u been fighting them off lol

The auld trick of them nasty Ulster Men trying to harm us innocent Kerry men!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on August 31, 2014, 11:00:16 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 31, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Des Cahill is going to go into Joe Duffy overdrive tonight over the last few mins in yesterdays game.

That is the big question over tonight's programme for me. If they are consistent they will highlight the initial brawl, the manhandling of a Mayo back room team member and the pitch incursion by a Mayo supporter as well as an attack on an Garda Siochana after the final whistle by another yob. I don't wish to see any suspensions handed out to players for the final but it was a similar incident to the Armagh v Cavan brawl which received days of headlines following the scrutiny and criticism received on the TV. I predict that they will skirt over the initial brawl and instead concentrate on the pitch incursion by a supporter.

You were spot on Yellowcard; but it was no surprise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 11:06:44 PM
What the hell happened? They were about to analyse the minor game and it went black and cut to a break. No mention after the break, though it's probably not live.

I'm sure the minor lads get a big kick out of people like McStay and Tomas O'Se looking over their matches so it must be a bit of a kick in the teeth for the Donegal lads after such an excellent performance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 31, 2014, 11:16:43 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 31, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 09:03:08 PM
Des Cahill is going to go into Joe Duffy overdrive tonight over the last few mins in yesterdays game.

That is the big question over tonight's programme for me. If they are consistent they will highlight the initial brawl, why Mayo back room team member was on the pitch incursion by a Mayo supporter as well as an attack by Garda Siochana after the final whistle on another fan.I don't wish to see any suspensions handed out to players for the final but it was a similar incident to the Armagh v Cavan brawl which received days of headlines following the scrutiny and criticism received on the TV. I predict that they will skirt over the initial brawl and instead concentrate on the pitch incursion by a supporter.

Fixed that for ye!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 31, 2014, 11:17:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

To be fair that was a serious Tyrone team they came against! One if the best!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

Who would be the other options? Anthony McGarry?? Holmes??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 31, 2014, 11:24:51 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 31, 2014, 11:17:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

To be fair that was a serious Tyrone team they came against! One if the best!!!


It was Gormley, Jordan, McAnallen,  B. McGuigan, S. O'Neill, E. McGinley, K. Hughes, E. Mulligan etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 11:25:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

He's been a plastic Rossie for most of his life at this stage but it's not that far to get to Mayo. He wouldn't lack knowledge of the local scene.

The McStay that managed Brigids was very tactically astute and barely put a foot wrong in his personnel decisions or his game-plans. Mayo could do a lot worse than the big Mcs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 11:40:21 PM
Give Kevinín the job.
He's only dying to put the dossiers to good use.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 11:40:21 PM
Give Kevinín the job.
He's only dying to put the dossiers to good use.

If he were to take it. Would he be the first of the main stream RTE pundits to put his money where his mouth is?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2014, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 11:40:21 PM
Give Kevinín the job.
He's only dying to put the dossiers to good use.

If he were to take it. Would he be the first of the main stream RTE pundits to put his money where his mouth is?

He's the only one that's wanted.. Pat's been trying for a job at under-age for ages but the Kerry lads are scared senseless to give him one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 01, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 01, 2014, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:59:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2014, 11:40:21 PM
Give Kevinín the job.
He's only dying to put the dossiers to good use.

If he were to take it. Would he be the first of the main stream RTE pundits to put his money where his mouth is?

He's the only one that's wanted..

What I mean is Spillane, Brolly, O'Rourke, Davis etc have never done the senior inter-county gig!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2014, 12:09:45 AM
"in tow"

4 times today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on September 01, 2014, 03:16:27 AM
I thought Joe was very good yesterday and even though he tipped Dublin to squeeze through after a huge test, he foresaw a lot of what happened in the game yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sans pessimism on September 01, 2014, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

Who would be the other options? Anthony McGarry?? Holmes??
Anthony McGarry???.....R u being serious.BTubber won the senior c/ship DESPITE him being manager!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: sans pessimism on September 01, 2014, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

Who would be the other options? Anthony McGarry?? Holmes??
Anthony McGarry???.....R u being serious.BTubber won the senior c/ship DESPITE him being manager!!

Don't know anything about him tbh.

Who would you go for??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sans pessimism on September 01, 2014, 08:44:07 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 01, 2014, 08:16:10 AM
Quote from: sans pessimism on September 01, 2014, 08:05:13 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:20:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 31, 2014, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 31, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
K-Mac pretty much saying "call me, bro" to the Mayo CB.

You can put that in BOLD!

Would be reasonably happy with McStay as manager, backroom team would be critical though

I don't know! Himself and McHale 13 years ago did the Mayo under 21 gig. Got to an AI final v Tyrone in 2001. He looked limited tactically. That's a while ago. He clearly is interested. How well does he know football in the county?

Who would be the other options? Anthony McGarry?? Holmes??
Anthony McGarry???.....R u being serious.BTubber won the senior c/ship DESPITE him being manager!!

Don't know anything about him tbh.

Who would you go for??
God Mac theres a question....-Certain that if McHale's football ethos is anything like what he writes,then he's one scratched off my list.Someone who can freshen up ideas while keeping the intensity that Mayo play with
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 01, 2014, 09:55:01 AM
(http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/banty2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stephenite on September 01, 2014, 10:29:31 AM
Would Tony McEntee be worth a look?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on September 01, 2014, 10:50:45 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on September 01, 2014, 03:16:27 AM
I thought Joe was very good yesterday and even though he tipped Dublin to squeeze through after a huge test, he foresaw a lot of what happened in the game yesterday.

Sure he's been saying all year that the only team that could beat Dublin would be Donegal, but even he was rowing back on that a bit saying that McFadden wasn't the force of a few years ago and he'd need to find his form for it to happen.

I think the save by the legs of the Donegal keeper when Dublin were something like 7 points to 3 up was critical as you really couldn't see anyone coming back against Dublin being 7 points down. Donegal then went down the field and score the next few points to keep it interesting.

Very good game to watch, a good weekend for the football even if the goings on late in Limerick were a bit silly, no harm came off it, although I'd be a bit concerned about that big lad that took half a dozen marshals to get him off the pitch didn't have a heart condition or something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on September 01, 2014, 03:30:33 PM
2 brilliant games alright and the week before was just as good. Most years I could take or leave the football(bar jumping on the Galway bandwagon from 98-01) but I think I've seen the best 3 (football)games of my life in the last week. Off the top of my head I can't remember any better ones. Very sad for Mayo though. Hope they can do it next year.

Joe isn't everyone's cuppa but I could listen to him all day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keane on September 01, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
It's always the same when the top teams meet in football. The tiered set up is why hurling is always lionised over football in the media - greater proportion of games between the elite teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:49:30 PM
Quote from: Keane on September 01, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
It's always the same when the top teams meet in football. The tiered set up is why hurling is always lionised over football in the media - greater proportion of games between the elite teams.

It is not always the same when the top teams meet. Dublin Donegal a few years ago was turgid stuff.  Dublin Kerry was a very good game last year. Mayo Dublin a couple of times. But a lot of 'top' teams cancel each other out in the football, which can make for a poor game.

I'm just glad we have two brilliant sports like we have.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keane on September 01, 2014, 05:02:01 PM
Always bar that one game in 2011 I should have said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2014, 07:32:50 PM
Two of the most exciting, dramatic and entertaining games I witnessed in 2013 were the two London-Leitrim games. The magic is in getting two competitive teams that genuinely believe they can win. 'Quality' is a nebulous term that is severely over-rated when it comes to watchability.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on September 21, 2014, 01:58:19 PM
What - no Lyster, no Nualas? What's going on here? Can it be the Sky dividend?

Ah no - just when I thought ...
- the orange clown is still here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on September 21, 2014, 02:04:35 PM
Arrah jazes. They're back. What was that about?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on September 21, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
And Tony Davis gets his day in the sun.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on September 21, 2014, 10:24:36 PM
Did those boys just analyse the match I watched today :-\?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on September 21, 2014, 10:31:53 PM
Jaysus.

Pat is on an annoying buzz tonight. Like a dog with 2 pricks.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2014, 10:33:22 PM
You can't beat a bit of breeding now and again ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigpaul on September 21, 2014, 10:43:35 PM
In breeding is it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2014, 10:44:57 PM
Ha. Pat wasn't specific with this comment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rossiewanderer on September 21, 2014, 10:45:22 PM
Id have Andy Mallon in the team of the year
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J OGorman on September 21, 2014, 10:47:39 PM
Keith Higgins is tremend-juice
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 21, 2014, 10:55:22 PM
Is Aidan O'M only on there to keep the Kerry numbers up??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 21, 2014, 10:57:59 PM
McStay mixing up Aidan and Stefan Forker tonight. His knowledge of Armagh football just ain't up to scratch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 21, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
Dublin hammered all before them from the league semi and just pushed out by a  great donegal performance, just 2 men on the team of the year?, No Aidan O`Se who lost out at the expense of McHugh, too much focus on the semi and final for the team of the year, a year put in 1 month , should be called the team of the late summer instead. How often has players outside the semis been on this team
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 21, 2014, 11:00:57 PM
In the final and SF, you're playing against the best teams under the most pressure so you have to give heavier weighting to those games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 21, 2014, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 21, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
Dublin hammered all before them from the league semi and just pushed out by a  great donegal performance, just 2 men on the team of the year?, No Aidan O`Se who lost out at the expense of McHugh, too much focus on the semi and final for the team of the year, a year put in 1 month , should be called the team of the late summer instead. How often has players outside the semis been on this team

Houli in 1993.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 21, 2014, 11:03:56 PM
no you don't, call it the team of September instead, its just like the argument for footballer of the year, Connolly been the best but cause Dublin got edged out in the final he likely to miss out later in the year. whens the last time a player not from the winning team the footballer of the year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on September 21, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
It's gas how easily the bookies odds change for the all-stars. About an hour ago I think Durcan was 10/1 for the goalie all-star. After the Sunday Game named their team of the year I checked again and he's 9/4 now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Bernard Brogan in 2010 was the last player not from the winnning team to be player of the year,. and Dublin didn't reach the final that year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 21, 2014, 11:11:07 PM
so we got one in what the last 15 - 20yrs?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 21, 2014, 11:11:56 PM
Quote from: Schkite on September 21, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
It's gas how easily the bookies odds change for the all-stars. About an hour ago I think Durcan was 10/1 for the goalie all-star. After the Sunday Game named their team of the year I checked again and he's 9/4 now.
Kerry will be odds-on for next year as well. Until they are soundly beaten, taking everyone by surprise, as the winners have done in the subsequent season for the last few years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 21, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
Star for me but Murphy will get it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 21, 2014, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 21, 2014, 11:13:00 PM
Star for me but Murphy will get it

I'm glad that bollix Donaghy didn't get it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on September 21, 2014, 11:20:22 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 21, 2014, 11:11:07 PM
so we got one in what the last 15 - 20yrs?

Steven McDonnell in 03 asaik

JOD should get it this year, don't think there would be any complaints.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 21, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
I don't like him but he won the SF and final for kerry
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on September 21, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 21, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
I don't like him but he won the SF and final for Kerry

Haven't much time for him either, he's a big awkward mullicker, not even the first cousin of a Kerry footballer. Don't know how he got so  fit again, a few weeks ago he was barely able to walk.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 21, 2014, 11:44:32 PM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2014/0921/645322-the-sunday-game-football-team-of-the-year/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on September 21, 2014, 11:54:26 PM
How is Pat Spillane still on panel. Hasn't a clue about modern football and some of the stuff he said had to be heard to believe. One gem was Kerry don't play a system. Jamie Clarke plays in front of his full back line. I pay a tv licence for that???? It's not good enough.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mouview on September 21, 2014, 11:56:56 PM
Team of the year - Ryan McHugh instead of Aodan O'Shea? The mind boggles..........

Kerry adhered to the greatest commandment in c'ship football - survive. But the worst Kerry-winning team I've ever seen; I mean 2 Geaneys, Donnchadh Walsh, Stephen O'Brien, a HB line that was exposed by an ordinary Galway team? The 2 beaten semi-finalists must be sore kicking themselves tonight. Swap opponents and play again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on September 22, 2014, 01:11:04 AM
Quote from: mouview on September 21, 2014, 11:56:56 PM
Team of the year - Ryan McHugh instead of Aodan O'Shea? The mind boggles..........

Kerry adhered to the greatest commandment in c'ship football - survive. But the worst Kerry-winning team I've ever seen; I mean 2 Geaneys, Donnchadh Walsh, Stephen O'Brien, a HB line that was exposed by an ordinary Galway team? The 2 beaten semi-finalists must be sore kicking themselves tonight. Swap opponents and play again.

Tough shit, they had their chances.

And why pick on a lad who was man of the match in the Ulster final and AI semi?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 22, 2014, 07:11:23 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 21, 2014, 11:54:26 PM
How is Pat Spillane still on panel. Hasn't a clue about modern football and some of the stuff he said had to be heard to believe. One gem was Kerry don't play a system. Jamie Clarke plays in front of his full back line. I pay a tv licence for that???? It's not good enough.

He was right about kerry not playing sweepers. they just kept their defenders in position. their halfbacks stayed in place and didnt follow the donegal halfforwards into the donegal defence. The bottom line is kerry played a cautious gameplan but nowhere near as defensive as donegal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 22, 2014, 08:09:50 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 21, 2014, 11:54:26 PM
How is Pat Spillane still on panel. Hasn't a clue about modern football and some of the stuff he said had to be heard to believe. One gem was Kerry don't play a system. Jamie Clarke plays in front of his full back line. I pay a tv licence for that???? It's not good enough.
god he was hard to listen to last night.
Completly biased, which i could forgive , if he had the first clue what he was talking about.

Colm Orouke was the only one worth having on that panel last night, at least he called it, saying it was a poor championship and the format needs looked at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 22, 2014, 09:00:10 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 21, 2014, 11:54:26 PM
How is Pat Spillane still on panel. Hasn't a clue about modern football and some of the stuff he said had to be heard to believe. One gem was Kerry don't play a system. Jamie Clarke plays in front of his full back line. I pay a tv licence for that???? It's not good enough.
It helps if you look at Spillane's contribution as comedy rather than sport.
Comedy is part of RTE's public service remit. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bridgegael on September 22, 2014, 10:12:45 AM
Pat showed how out of touch with the modern game he is.  When martin mchugh is taljing more sense than you; its time to hang the pen up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 22, 2014, 10:20:26 AM
Pat Spillane, like a few other Kerry lads, will struggle with this for a while. It's a bit of a pyrrhic victory for people like him because it was won by Eamon Fitzmaurice taking a very pragmatic approach and having a gameplan and pattern of play which set up perfectly for Donegal. It wasn't the 'pure' football that the Kerry teams always play in Pat's rose tinted glasses, but it was the football they needed to play to win.

Kerry prefer to play open expansive football, I have no doubt about that. But if they think that they have to play defensively, or play cynically, or any other style, then they will, and they will apply themselves until they are very good at it.

I'm sure they'd prefer to win 3-14 to 2-13 in a high octane thriller, but they'll happily do whatever they have to to bring Sam back with them again, and if that's 3 lads sent off in a 0-8 to 0-6 game, then so be it.

This approach is contrary to everything Pat has been saying, but of course it's nothing new. During the week I saw a replay of 'that goal' from Kerry Offaly 1982, and if you look at the foul Bomber Liston does, for the free that leaves to the goal, that wouldn't look out of place in any game up to last year..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 22, 2014, 10:26:32 AM
Pat was on looking to change the rules after Armagh and Tyrone had lowered Kerry's colours. But he was lauding yesterday as Kerry being able to adopt.

Pat is out of touch but he still keeps the tinted glasses on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on September 22, 2014, 08:10:33 PM
Does anyone know when it's available worldwide on rte player?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on September 22, 2014, 08:48:59 PM
Yes there was an AI final to talk about..........  But what was Des' word of the week?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: men in black on September 24, 2014, 09:53:49 PM
Can we add a poll or start a new trend on who we want to be the new analysts/presenters  of TSG.
Time for a change.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 24, 2014, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Agreed. Marty as well please
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 25, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.
+1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dire Ear on September 25, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
Agreed.              Muppets
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on September 25, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
I think the real point that is being missed here is that Jim Mcguinness is the Anti Christ.

I would agree with Spillane that kerry dont play a system as they were reacting to the anti-football System of donegal but are capable and willing to play it several different Ways un like donegal who know only one way that is spoil the Sport and hope the other team loses the will to live.
would have been a 'strange kinda Glory' had they pulled it off
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dire Ear on September 25, 2014, 12:48:30 PM
EDIT . .  Muppets were educational , and funny ------- :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 25, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Spillane and Canning are symptomatic of a big problem with TV and why young people are watching videos online instead. They appeal to a certain part of the audience (older/not educated) and have a very low info content for most of the rest of the watching public.
You get way more info online. The one size fits all model is busted, I think.  The LLS has the same problem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on September 25, 2014, 01:26:11 PM
Quote from: men in black on September 24, 2014, 09:53:49 PM
Can we add a poll or start a new trend on who we want to be the new analysts/presenters  of TSG.
Time for a change.

Can we just have a brainstormer on the creation of a new national broadcaster so Tyrone can get back to talking to Ireland about football after matches!

Note: Mickey Harte will probably want to make the broadcasting rules but we will cross that bridge when we come to it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on September 25, 2014, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 25, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Spillane and Canning are symptomatic of a big problem with TV and why young people are watching videos online instead. They appeal to a certain part of the audience (older/not educated) and have a very low info content for most of the rest of the watching public.
You get way more info online. The one size fits all model is busted, I think.  The LLS has the same problem.

Its certainly and age thing but I don't believe its an education thing - I know plenty of educated people who watch and its exactly what they want (they're almost always in the older category). I think your comment above makes you look like you think your smarter than everyone else because you think about the sunday game in a different way! That kind of thing annoys me more than Pat!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 25, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
The problem with any of these guys is that you have no choice. As per the rest of people here I can watch the championship on RTE and that's it(sky has changed that slightly). Generally speaking people can vote with their feet and not watch it or watch an alternate channel but none of us have that luxury. If that were to happen RTE would have to look at things.

These guys are probably close to untouchable because they have a massive audience but for example how many people turn over at half time because they don't want to listen to them? I would imagine quite a few but they will just use raw viewer stats.

There is no reason for Spillane to be there. None. I don't like Brolly however I can see the merit in him being there. Brolly can make articulate and intelligible points when not courting controversy. Spillane can not.

There is no pressure due to viewing figures though.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on September 25, 2014, 02:18:14 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Brolly is no fool though and he's funny. Spillane, Canning, Martin Carney, Tommy Carr and Tony Davis should all be thrown into a soundproof box.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on September 25, 2014, 03:33:27 PM
Brolly funny ???
conal gallen must have you in stiches
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keane on September 25, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 21, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
Dublin hammered all before them from the league semi and just pushed out by a  great donegal performance, just 2 men on the team of the year?, No Aidan O`Se who lost out at the expense of McHugh, too much focus on the semi and final for the team of the year, a year put in 1 month , should be called the team of the late summer instead. How often has players outside the semis been on this team

TBF, that "all before them" amounts to Cork, Derry, the "cream" of Leinster and Monaghan six days after extra-time. I'm not all that impressed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 25, 2014, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on September 25, 2014, 09:07:56 AM
Agreed.              Muppets

At this time I would like to state that I have not officially applied for TSG gig. I have also not been contacted regarding the position. Lookit, obviously I would be flattered, as such, if considered and it would be an honour for me and my elderly mother, who would really love it, very much so, if I got the job. I am very busy though, at the moment like, what with the all coaching, the refereeing and saving the dolphins and all that sort of stuff, but who wouldn't like an opportunity like TSG?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Thy Kingdom Come on September 25, 2014, 08:44:19 PM
That's all we need another Mayo pundit who knows nothing about what it takes to take Sam.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 25, 2014, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 25, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Spillane and Canning are symptomatic of a big problem with TV and why young people are watching videos online instead. They appeal to a certain part of the audience (older/not educated) and have a very low info content for most of the rest of the watching public.
You get way more info online. The one size fits all model is busted, I think.  The LLS has the same problem.

Seafoid, on what do you base your assertion that Spillane and Canning appeal to the older/not educated section of the TV audience?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 26, 2014, 08:19:10 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 25, 2014, 08:44:19 PM
That's all we need another Mayo pundit who knows nothing about what it takes to take Sam.

6 of your grand total of 9 posts are attacks on Mayo or Mayo people, are you sure you are not a pundit yourself?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on September 25, 2014, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 25, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Spillane and Canning are symptomatic of a big problem with TV and why young people are watching videos online instead. They appeal to a certain part of the audience (older/not educated) and have a very low info content for most of the rest of the watching public.
You get way more info online. The one size fits all model is busted, I think.  The LLS has the same problem.

Seafoid, on what do you base your assertion that Spillane and Canning appeal to the older/not educated section of the TV audience?

It's mostly anecdotal. My uncles like him, bro in laws don't. That is the age thing.

And online a lot of people complain about Canning- he doesn't give much insight into games. Just what happens.
It's interesting- he can be much more insightful eg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9v3_VvNDac
but maybe he isn't allowed to - maybe that is his job, to keep it simple

The audience for a match is very varied. Is he good enough for the people who are looking for more ?
I think one thing about sports journalism now compared to say 30 years ago is the breadth of coverage available. You have all the stats stuff from people like Christy o Connor, tactics from people like Emmet whatshisname, top notch interviews  from people like Kieran Shannon or Jerome Quinn , quality writing from people like Shannon and Keith Duggan and then the stuff as it was - Brehony, for example Sean Moran in the IT would be in the middle. If you read the Sunday World say it's like very little changed.  There is nothing right or wrong about that- that is the way the audience is. 

On the other hand journalism is changing. RTE are setting up a new internet channel exclusively for 7-11 year olds because they don't watch telly.  Newspapers have had to change the way they present information. It's not good enough to just do things the way you always did it.
Not everyone is looking for this- a lot of people are happy with the status quo but it's hard to serve the 2 markets at the same time.     
The Apres Match stuff about TSG when Spillane was presenter was very cruel but they wouldn't do it to Lyster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euR_Idiso-Y
He's a pro.
So I would say that RTE are trying to please everyone when the audience is fragmenting. 

It is probably not a million miles away from what Liam O'Neill said a while back

" Quite frankly you couldn't please everybody anyway and that's the nature of it. Paraic Duffy and I are as conservative and traditional as you will get in the GAA. We are looking at a package here that will satisfy the broad group of people that we are trying to satisfy"

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 26, 2014, 10:22:58 AM
Ger Canning is the commentary equivalent of 'Up for the Match'.
Most of us cringe at what's being said, some of us may even turn it off altogether, however for some (older people especially) it's a comforting example of consistency in a world gone mad.
Like the Late Late Toy show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 26, 2014, 11:15:22 AM
I'd prefer an option to have no commentary when Canning is on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 26, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
I don't see how Canning could appeal to the older viewer of TSG, they grew up listening to the two Mícheál's for Christ sake, O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 26, 2014, 12:53:02 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 26, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
I don't see how Canning could appeal to the older viewer of TSG, they grew up listening to the two Mícheál's for Christ sake, O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh.

Yes but there are now generally deaf.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on September 26, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on September 25, 2014, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 25, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 24, 2014, 10:42:12 PM
Podge and Rodge need to go. Aka Brolly and Spillane. Ger Canning too. His commentating is brutal.

Spillane and Canning are symptomatic of a big problem with TV and why young people are watching videos online instead. They appeal to a certain part of the audience (older/not educated) and have a very low info content for most of the rest of the watching public.
You get way more info online. The one size fits all model is busted, I think.  The LLS has the same problem.

Seafoid, on what do you base your assertion that Spillane and Canning appeal to the older/not educated section of the TV audience?

It's mostly anecdotal. My uncles like him, bro in laws don't. That is the age thing.

And online a lot of people complain about Canning- he doesn't give much insight into games. Just what happens.
It's interesting- he can be much more insightful eg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9v3_VvNDac
but maybe he isn't allowed to - maybe that is his job, to keep it simple

The audience for a match is very varied. Is he good enough for the people who are looking for more ?
I think one thing about sports journalism now compared to say 30 years ago is the breadth of coverage available. You have all the stats stuff from people like Christy o Connor, tactics from people like Emmet whatshisname, top notch interviews  from people like Kieran Shannon or Jerome Quinn , quality writing from people like Shannon and Keith Duggan and then the stuff as it was - Brehony, for example Sean Moran in the IT would be in the middle. If you read the Sunday World say it's like very little changed.  There is nothing right or wrong about that- that is the way the audience is. 

On the other hand journalism is changing. RTE are setting up a new internet channel exclusively for 7-11 year olds because they don't watch telly.  Newspapers have had to change the way they present information. It's not good enough to just do things the way you always did it.
Not everyone is looking for this- a lot of people are happy with the status quo but it's hard to serve the 2 markets at the same time.     
The Apres Match stuff about TSG when Spillane was presenter was very cruel but they wouldn't do it to Lyster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euR_Idiso-Y
He's a pro.
So I would say that RTE are trying to please everyone when the audience is fragmenting. 

It is probably not a million miles away from what Liam O'Neill said a while back

" Quite frankly you couldn't please everybody anyway and that's the nature of it. Paraic Duffy and I are as conservative and traditional as you will get in the GAA. We are looking at a package here that will satisfy the broad group of people that we are trying to satisfy"

Don't forget the Ó Sé brothers making a real name for themselves

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 26, 2014, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 26, 2014, 11:15:22 AM
I'd prefer an option to have no commentary when Canning is on.

You do. It's called the volume button :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 26, 2014, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 26, 2014, 02:23:22 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 26, 2014, 11:15:22 AM
I'd prefer an option to have no commentary when Canning is on.

You do. It's called the volume button :)

It's not the same.

I'd prefer just the sound of the crowd.

A good commentator you wouldn't even notice him, but Canning actually puts me off watching the match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?
Tg4 and RnaG cater to a different audience who are already bilingual so they can take in more info and there tends to be less waffle. RTE has to have something for everyone because it is a much bigger audience.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 26, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?
Tg4 and RnaG cater to a different audience who are already bilingual so they can take in more info and there tends to be less waffle. RTE has to have something for everyone because it is a much bigger audience.

They still talk in just as many banal generalities. Or in Sean Ban's case Pat Spillane-esque arseology. Knowing a second language doesn't increase anyone's ability to analyse or commentate on a sport. Michael O'Muir was good because he was simply an excellent commentator with a distinctive style, not because he could throw a few gaelic words in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on September 26, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 26, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?
Tg4 and RnaG cater to a different audience who are already bilingual so they can take in more info and there tends to be less waffle. RTE has to have something for everyone because it is a much bigger audience.

They still talk in just as many banal generalities. Or in Sean Ban's case Pat Spillane-esque arseology. Knowing a second language doesn't increase anyone's ability to analyse or commentate on a sport. Michael O'Muir was good because he was simply an excellent commentator with a distinctive style, not because he could throw a few gaelic words in.
Micheál Ó Sé used to do the minor commentary on RTE. No messing, no bullshit, just described what he saw. But if you had no Irish you were goosed...no sub titles....but he was top class.....plus he has 2 AI medals ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on September 26, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 26, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?
Tg4 and RnaG cater to a different audience who are already bilingual so they can take in more info and there tends to be less waffle. RTE has to have something for everyone because it is a much bigger audience.

They still talk in just as many banal generalities. Or in Sean Ban's case Pat Spillane-esque arseology. Knowing a second language doesn't increase anyone's ability to analyse or commentate on a sport. Michael O'Muir was good because he was simply an excellent commentator with a distinctive style, not because he could throw a few gaelic words in.
Micheál Ó Sé used to do the minor commentary on RTE. No messing, no bullshit, just described what he saw. But if you had no Irish you were goosed...no sub titles....but he was top class.....plus he has 2 AI medals ;D
The language is much richer. They don't have to dumb down like in the bearla. Irish is a class thing even though a lot of people look down on it. It's a funny old world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 26, 2014, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?

Duignan is good alright but I don't think he has ever seen a foul in a hurling game, a player could be decapitated and Michael would think say he thought it was a fair challenge  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 27, 2014, 05:25:11 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 26, 2014, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?

Duignan is good alright but I don't think he has ever seen a foul in a hurling game, a player could be decapitated and Michael would think say he thought it was a fair challenge  ;D
Duignan is a real pro alright. He has a very good eye and he communicates well. His biography was very good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 27, 2014, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 09:09:52 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on September 26, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 26, 2014, 08:45:21 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 26, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
I often wonder is the could give the option where you could choose the option where there was no commentary just the sound of the crowd.  At half time it would go back to the studio where panelists would discuss the game any contentious issues.  Would people choose that? 

That said, I'd miss Michael Diegnan on hurling.

For the Irish speakers out there, what is the quality of the commentary on TG4?  It seems to be less full of sh*te/filler (maybe because I only under stand half on it).  I wonder could the be given a go on TSG?
Tg4 and RnaG cater to a different audience who are already bilingual so they can take in more info and there tends to be less waffle. RTE has to have something for everyone because it is a much bigger audience.

They still talk in just as many banal generalities. Or in Sean Ban's case Pat Spillane-esque arseology. Knowing a second language doesn't increase anyone's ability to analyse or commentate on a sport. Michael O'Muir was good because he was simply an excellent commentator with a distinctive style, not because he could throw a few gaelic words in.
Micheál Ó Sé used to do the minor commentary on RTE. No messing, no bullshit, just described what he saw. But if you had no Irish you were goosed...no sub titles....but he was top class.....plus he has 2 AI medals ;D
The language is much richer. They don't have to dumb down like in the bearla. Irish is a class thing even though a lot of people look down on it. It's a funny old world.
Apart from Seán Bán Biased Gaillimheach  Seó Spóirt is the only adult GAA programme on an Irish TV Channel.
The TG4 commentators are really top class but please leave son of Rossie man Coman Goggins at home from now on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on September 29, 2014, 03:55:37 AM
I thought the Sunday game highlights show yesterday was excellent, and some of the exchanges between Donal Og, Liam Sheedy, Ger, Mick Kavanagh and Cyril were hilarious(someone should show it to Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer and the other excruciating pundits on MOTD by the way). Des was back to his wisecracking best too. I thought Donal Og's analysis of the spare arm tackle was very good and Klikenny clearly do it better than anyone else. Eddie Brennan mentioned Kilkenny's poor record in games where Barry Kelly was the ref but that's more to do with his stricter approach than an anti-Kilkenny bias. They benefitted from Brian Gavin's lenient style. Someone on here (maybe AZ or johnneycool) called it before the final, that it would probably be determined by how it was reffed, with a more lenient ref suiting Kilkenny.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 06, 2015, 05:17:11 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=giEM88XLWqk
A good advert in fairness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 17, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
Good to see the three boys back!

(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29300000/the-three-stooges-three-stooges-29303376-800-600.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on May 17, 2015, 03:58:02 PM
An insult to the three boys in the above picture to be compared to the SG panelists
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 17, 2015, 04:00:31 PM
Martin Carney on co-commentary. And especially with Donegal playing. Time to switch over to the BBC!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on May 17, 2015, 04:03:58 PM
Somebody please wipe the lens
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Line Ball on May 17, 2015, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 17, 2015, 04:00:31 PM
Martin Carney on co-commentary. And especially with Donegal playing. Time to switch over to the BBC!

10 times worse on BBC
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on May 17, 2015, 04:44:28 PM
BBC twice the coverage with Niblock on commentary!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Puckoon on May 17, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Christ, now it was raining in Ballybofey because the Lord above is not a great fan of this defensive football!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 17, 2015, 05:58:25 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 17, 2015, 04:44:28 PM
BBC twice the coverage with Niblock on commentary!!
Does Line Ball's x10 worse divided by your x2 better mean the BBC 5 times worse?  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on May 17, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
They camera lens was all rain drops for the whole gamel long think somebody would put tv camera in s sheltered area.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how to watch the sunday game in Britain. Change the proxies and such
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 17, 2015, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how to watch the sunday game in Britain. Change the proxies and such

Get gaago ye tightarse!  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 08:08:57 PM
Na!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 17, 2015, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how to watch the sunday game in Britain. Change the proxies and such

(http://www.arrl.org/images/view/History/History_ham_2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Agent Orange on May 17, 2015, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how to watch the sunday game in Britain. Change the proxies and such

Google chrome with the hola extension. http://hola.org/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on May 17, 2015, 09:11:45 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 17, 2015, 07:54:55 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how to watch the sunday game in Britain. Change the proxies and such

Get gaago ye tightarse!  ;)

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
O'Rourke seems to want to challenge Joe at every opportunity if today's showing is anything to go by.

That's all well and good but don't laugh off camera when the credits are starting. I want to see real huffing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 17, 2015, 09:29:39 PM
I'm no huge fan of Tyrone but Carneys co commentary today was blatantly biased towards Donegal. Ridiculous how they can put a man who played for Donegal on commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on May 17, 2015, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 17, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Can anyone tell me how to watch the sunday game in Britain. Change the proxies and such

Google chrome with the hola extension. http://hola.org/

sweet!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on May 17, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Feck me, Benny Coulter must have had a wile hard time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 17, 2015, 10:08:19 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 17, 2015, 09:29:39 PM
I'm no huge fan of Tyrone but Carneys co commentary today was blatantly biased towards Donegal. Ridiculous how they can put a man who played for Donegal on commentary.

That's way down the list of reasons why Martin Carney shouldn't be allowed commentate on a game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 17, 2015, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 17, 2015, 09:29:39 PM
I'm no huge fan of Tyrone but Carneys co commentary today was blatantly biased towards Donegal. Ridiculous how they can put a man who played for Donegal on commentary.

He even mixed up Donegal for Mayo... :-X
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 17, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Feck me, Benny Coulter must have had a wile hard time.

Serious make-up there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redcard on May 17, 2015, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 17, 2015, 10:12:52 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 17, 2015, 09:59:56 PM
Feck me, Benny Coulter must have had a wile hard time.

Serious make-up there.

Serious sledging there
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on May 17, 2015, 10:22:37 PM
T'was like the Joe Duffy show there for a while...
"...so Benny, did they talk te ya?"
"..they did, joe, they did..."
"what did they say Benny, what did they say..."
"..it was awful, Joe.."
"did they man mark you, Benny, did they keep ya scoreless, how many were there, 3, 4...tell us, Benny, tell us..."
<sob, sob>"...Ah can't, Joe, ah can't."
<Phone hangs up>
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on May 17, 2015, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on May 17, 2015, 10:22:37 PM
T'was like the Joe Duffy show there for a while...
"...so Benny, did they talk te ya?"
"..they did, joe, they did..."
"what did they say Benny, what did they say..."
"..it was awful, Joe.."
"did they man mark you, Benny, did they keep ya scoreless, how many were there, 3, 4...tell us, Benny, tell us..."
<sob, sob>"...Ah can't, Joe, ah can't."
<Phone hangs up>

Twas woeful stuff altogether.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2015, 10:27:13 PM
And 'Who's your favourite player, Benny?'
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 18, 2015, 04:00:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 17, 2015, 10:27:13 PM
And 'Who's your favourite player, Benny?'

just watched it, blame that tool Des. He is pathetic.
Is it me, or is Tomas O Se full of lazy analysis or cliches. good god. That Kerry shite, "well this is what we did" is getting a bit old already.
btw, not questioning his football ability. Good luck to him for monitizing it. Just feel there is not a lot of value add.
In my opinion Ciaran Whelan and Kevin McStay miles ahead of the rest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 18, 2015, 08:11:19 AM
I like Whelean and mc stay too.

I like the new feature of the camera showing an aerial view of pitch before the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 18, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
Listening to Brolly, O'Rourke and Spillane after the game was 10x more enjoyable than the Sunday game last night. Sunday game a bore-fest with that Des clown, I agree Whelan only one who provides decent tactical analysis. Benny Coulter offered no better of an insight into the game than a supporter.

Sure, those 3 may be hard to listen to bickering but at least they do know their stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 18, 2015, 10:23:16 AM
Would they not try and get Oisin McConville or Tony McEntee on as a regular panellist?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on May 18, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
I think yiz being a bit harsh on Benny lads. After all it was his first time on the show. Give him a chance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tippabu on May 18, 2015, 10:38:05 AM
Whatever about the panelists, Sunday game will always be terrible as long as that clown des cahill is hosting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on May 18, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 18, 2015, 10:33:11 AM
I think yiz being a bit harsh on Benny lads. After all it was his first time on the show. Give him a chance.

I thought he did quite well personally . You have a hologram of a host so can't expect much
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on May 18, 2015, 11:24:16 AM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on May 18, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
Listening to Brolly, O'Rourke and Spillane after the game was 10x more enjoyable than the Sunday game last night. Sunday game a bore-fest with that Des clown, I agree Whelan only one who provides decent tactical analysis. Benny Coulter offered no better of an insight into the game than a supporter.

Sure, those 3 may be hard to listen to bickering but at least they do know their stuff.

I must live in a parallel universe
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 18, 2015, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: tippabu on May 18, 2015, 10:38:05 AM
Whatever about the panelists, Sunday game will always be terrible as long as that clown des cahill is hosting.

Does he still do the hilarious thing were he drops in a word that his "followers" on Twitter have suggested?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 18, 2015, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 18, 2015, 01:05:27 PM
Quote from: tippabu on May 18, 2015, 10:38:05 AM
Whatever about the panelists, Sunday game will always be terrible as long as that clown des cahill is hosting.

Does he still do the hilarious thing were he drops in a word that his "followers" on Twitter have suggested?

Do you think that any person in RTE management looks at this type of feedback or do they;
A) not give a shi*e
b) Think the host is doing a good job.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 18, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
Most of the games on the weekend were in Leinster. O'Se has little or no knowledge of the Carlows, Westmeaths, Louth and Westmeaths of the world. He would have little or no knowledge (really) of Connacht either, so his analysis of Galway and Leitrim was limited. Benny was lost here also, but at least he'd understand the Donegal/Tyrone game better than the other two. The ends and out of it, put an analyst from the province that are being shown, they know (most of the time) the real score. O'Se looking more a bluffer as the weeks go on!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: CD on May 18, 2015, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 18, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
Most of the games on the weekend were in Leinster. O'Se has little or no knowledge of the Carlows, Westmeaths, Louth and Westmeaths of the world. He would have little or no knowledge (really) of Connacht either, so his analysis of Galway and Leitrim was limited. Benny was lost here also, but at least he'd understand the Donegal/Tyrone game better than the other two. The ends and out of it, put an analyst from the province that are being shown, they know (most of the time) the real score. O'Se looking more a bluffer as the weeks go on!
And the less said about his granda's suit, the better😀
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: CD on May 24, 2015, 01:55:33 PM
Can't believe Brolly said that! Uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
Brolly's main objective now is to feed the 'Joe Brolly is a Loose Cannon' machine on a weekly basis.
Is article today is full of bullsh*t anecdotes which will no doubt get people talking.
What he said about Marty was an utter disgrace.
No doubt there will be plenty of dickheads who think he's great craic for saying it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on May 24, 2015, 02:11:35 PM
Brollys comment about Marty Morrisey is the lowest thing Ive heard on spotring TV. Absolute disgrace. He should shut hiss mouth unless hes something intelligent to say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 24, 2015, 02:18:21 PM
What did Joe say now?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 24, 2015, 02:18:21 PM
What did Joe say now?
He's after calling Cavan football "as ugly as Marty Morrissey" on the Sunday Game. Michael Lyster not a bit pleased. Asked him to apologise to Marty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on May 24, 2015, 02:24:24 PM
What a tube.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 24, 2015, 02:27:40 PM
That was as cringeworthy as it gets, not to mention being completely unnecessarily offensive. What a plonker!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 24, 2015, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 24, 2015, 02:18:21 PM
What did Joe say now?
He's after calling Cavan football "as ugly as Marty Morrissey" on the Sunday Game. Michael Lyster not a bit pleased. Asked him to apologise to Marty.

He's not wrong though!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 24, 2015, 02:31:20 PM
Brolly isnt exactly Tom Cruise himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 24, 2015, 02:31:42 PM
How long will it be before he's pulled off RTE?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
In fairness he obviously said it tongue-in-cheek. If this is what we're getting upset about now - the bould womaniser extraordinare Martt Morriessiey being insulted by Brolly - the thread has jumped the shark.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 24, 2015, 02:31:42 PM
How long will it be before he's pulled off RTE?

Are you talking about Marty? If so you left out a word in that sentence ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 24, 2015, 02:38:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 24, 2015, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 24, 2015, 02:18:21 PM
What did Joe say now?
He's after calling Cavan football "as ugly as Marty Morrissey" on the Sunday Game. Michael Lyster not a bit pleased. Asked him to apologise to Marty.

He's not wrong though!!
It wouldn't be the cause of a successful libel action for sure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 24, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 24, 2015, 02:31:42 PM
How long will it be before he's pulled off RTE?

Are you talking about Marty? If so you left out a word in that sentence ;)

Oh Matron!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
In fairness he obviously said it tongue-in-cheek. If this is what we're getting upset about now - the bould womaniser extraordinare Martt Morriessiey being insulted by Brolly - the thread has jumped the shark.

If he said the same thing about the Roscommon Bus you'd want him beheaded, ISIS-style, live on telly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:44:23 PM
Joe with an "apology" to Marty....and was chastised again by Michael.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 24, 2015, 02:46:47 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:44:23 PM
Joe with an "apology" to Marty....and was chastised again by Michael.

Jesus, this is cringeworthy stuff!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 02:54:56 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 24, 2015, 02:44:23 PM
Joe with an "apology" to Marty....and was chastised again by Michael.

The Galway lad is getting awful cagey with Joe these days. Reminds me of a school teacher trying to discipline the class clown.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on May 24, 2015, 03:12:41 PM
Brolly is the Class Clown alright except he has no class.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 24, 2015, 07:03:16 PM
Is there a video of this?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Line Ball on May 24, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
Not great but here http://www.joe.ie/sport/video-joe-brollys-ugly-joke-about-marty-morrissey-on-the-sunday-game-didnt-go-down-well/497113 (http://www.joe.ie/sport/video-joe-brollys-ugly-joke-about-marty-morrissey-on-the-sunday-game-didnt-go-down-well/497113)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on May 24, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
Not great but here http://www.joe.ie/sport/video-joe-brollys-ugly-joke-about-marty-morrissey-on-the-sunday-game-didnt-go-down-well/497113 (http://www.joe.ie/sport/video-joe-brollys-ugly-joke-about-marty-morrissey-on-the-sunday-game-didnt-go-down-well/497113)

Tomas was having a great laugh about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 24, 2015, 07:40:03 PM
I wonder how many tune in to RTE just to hear Brolly, Spillane and Co. and how many avoid RTE because of them?

Personally, I never watch RTEs coverage, always The Championship on BBC. Have done for years. Even when I have to watch RTE, most of the time I mute the punditry.

Would be interested to hear others views on this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2015, 07:51:09 PM
I muted the commentary and analysis and listened to Newstalk instead.
Way better.
Plus the Newstalk lads do decent half-time interviews with members of the respective backroom teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 24, 2015, 07:51:19 PM
I thought there would be some debate here about the merits of Joe's simile (....... albeit, shocking and disgusting as it was).
I didn't think Cavan were that ugly today, but I suppose they have had uglier days than this


Has anybody round here  ever had a good word to say about Marty?
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=21701.0 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=21701.0)


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 24, 2015, 10:41:39 PM
I'm trying to figure out if cake is really good and knows his shit or if he is really just full of shit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on May 24, 2015, 10:54:53 PM
Sorry BennyCake but u mute RTE to listen to sideofyerarse! No harm but I suspect most to be the other way round
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Great to see two Rossies on the panel tonight  ;)

Cake is no dummy lad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Westside on May 24, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Great to see two Rossies on the panel tonight  ;)

Cake is no dummy lad.

He does a good job of sounding like one. Did you see his geometry analysis? It was like something off Republic of Telly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 24, 2015, 11:02:43 PM
Des Cahill asks McStay what he thinks of Limerick. He answers realistically with no Bulls*it. And Des looks disappointed he did not give some spin that Limerick will do damage in the backdoor!

Have to say there are about 10+ teams the back door is useless for. More of an extra game annoyance than anything else!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mikhailov on May 24, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 24, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Great to see two Rossies on the panel tonight  ;)

Cake is no dummy lad.

He does a good job of sounding like one. Did you see his geometry analysis? It was like something off Republic of Telly.

IMO Cake was useless, tried to explain how Monaghan beat the blanket but in two of the examples we seen a backward pass and a 100% hospital pass - complete crap talk....

By the way, he looks like he ate all the cake plus the left overs!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 11:39:34 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on May 24, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 24, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Great to see two Rossies on the panel tonight  ;)

Cake is no dummy lad.

He does a good job of sounding like one. Did you see his geometry analysis? It was like something off Republic of Telly.

IMO Cake was useless, tried to explain how Monaghan beat the blanket but in two of the examples we seen a backward pass and a 100% hospital pass - complete crap talk....

By the way, he looks like he ate all the cake plus the left overs!!

Cute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2015, 11:45:12 PM
Don't be getting sensitive on us Syfín.
It's only a bit of fun after all.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 25, 2015, 12:07:00 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on May 24, 2015, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on May 24, 2015, 10:56:41 PM

He does a good job of sounding like one. Did you see his geometry analysis? It was like something off Republic of Telly.

IMO Cake was useless, tried to explain how Monaghan beat the blanket but in two of the examples we seen a backward pass and a 100% hospital pass - complete crap talk....

The second of those "diagonal balls" was a 15-20m pass from the corner forward position back towards the 21, not what's generally called a diagonal ball.

His first night on though (I think) so I wouldn't be too harsh on him

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weareros on May 25, 2015, 12:29:12 AM
Cake spoke well. He didn't cut loose like he has on radio though. We might see that later in the Summer. Though Des cut him off fairly quick on his London point. The examples were probably picked by a researcher and were not very illustrative of the point he wanted to make.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on May 25, 2015, 12:32:28 AM
I thought he did well. Said us northerners were obsessed with defensive systems and hadn't a clue what to do when we crossed the half way line. Hard to argue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: T Fearon on May 25, 2015, 07:57:27 AM
Shane are you sure he wasn't talking about Arsenal?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on May 25, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 25, 2015, 12:32:28 AM
I thought he did well. Said us northerners were obsessed with defensive systems and hadn't a clue what to do when we crossed the half way line. Hard to argue.

Refreshing to hear a pundit say it like it is. He was spot on with this point.
Any coach can "coach" getting men back but it's the top coaches who coach attacking play. Cake got this one spot on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 25, 2015, 09:59:03 AM
Quote from: ck on May 25, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 25, 2015, 12:32:28 AM
I thought he did well. Said us northerners were obsessed with defensive systems and hadn't a clue what to do when we crossed the half way line. Hard to argue.

Refreshing to hear a pundit say it like it is. He was spot on with this point.
Any coach can "coach" getting men back but it's the top coaches who coach attacking play. Cake got this one spot on.

Yes, refreshing to hear someone make a bland generalisation about northern football. That's never been done before, especially on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 25, 2015, 12:06:22 PM
QuoteRefreshing to hear a pundit say it like it is.

WTF is a vertical kick when it's at home?

Cake was going on about vertical kicks in his analysis and "jaw-met- three". I do think he means horizontally arched kicks rather than vertical kicks?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on May 25, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
Can't believe people fall for cake , if there ever was an example of a fraud he was and is one .He'll be found out if he ever has to chat on the spot without rehearsal/research because he genuinely knows very little . Pure chancer who made it through chancing his arm and waffling too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2015, 12:41:07 PM
I thought Curran was brutal on the panel last night, he seemed to have a point to make and no matter what he was asked he was going down that line and he threw in a few big non-football words to make himself sound relevant.

And he rambled on, don't think I've ever heard a pundit talk so long in what was effectively one sentence on the same point told 4 different ways. Des was trying to get him wrap it up.

He still wasn't the worse thing on it, Des Cahills tie was a disgrace.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 25, 2015, 12:44:57 PM
I thought Cake was talking through his hole.

Jesus - he made a few auld passes sound like they had been hatched in NASA using top, and I mean top, scientists.

Triangles me arse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on May 25, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.
If it was Pythagoras himself he'd hardly have used as many triangles as Cake.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 25, 2015, 02:16:34 PM
Ya the lads are now trying to be like the soccer lads and are hatching parts of the pitch and drawing triangles just for the sake of it.

They should just give John Morrison and Cake their own show.

In fairness to him on the blanket the only way to beat it is to widen the park alright. To do that coachs need to coach long wide kick passes (that is cakes message and i would agree with him), its all very well as long as you have a weapons like McManus and Vinny Corry in your team though, lads that can give a foot pass and receive it. That's why Kevin Mac and Cillian are so vital to us.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on May 25, 2015, 02:21:56 PM
People seem very harsh on poor oul cake lads. This was the first time I ever heard the man and whilst some of his points made me squint my eyes in confusion I generally liked his fearless straight talking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on May 25, 2015, 02:23:10 PM
Did plato or Pythagoras play much football in their day lads?  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 25, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
No but Socrates has a Sigerson medal. **





** I know he doesn't
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 25, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
What did Curran' Cake call the certain type of football being played up there,  'the confused cult syndrome' ??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 25, 2015, 03:18:45 PM
I don't think it was cult :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
Maybe cake was onto something  - cults and triangles and all that....

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 25, 2015, 03:47:12 PM
The London game is a social day out/drinking festival with a match thrown in as an excuse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 25, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
God, ye Ros lads are very hard on the cockneens.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.

Neither are you. Croke park subsidize those trips to a 'reasonable' cost.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.

Neither are you. Croke park subsidize those trips to a 'reasonable' cost.

Yeah, trust me on this - that doesn't cover it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 25, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
God, ye Ros lads are very hard on the cockneens.

Well according to the referendum there, they are not really
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.

Neither are you. Croke park subsidize those trips to a 'reasonable' cost.

Yeah, trust me on this - that doesn't cover it.

Then your costs aren't reasonable...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.

Neither are you. Croke park subsidize those trips to a 'reasonable' cost.

Yeah, trust me on this - that doesn't cover it.

Then your costs aren't reasonable...

Which is exactly why there's a question about the match ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:24:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 25, 2015, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.

Neither are you. Croke park subsidize those trips to a 'reasonable' cost.

Yeah, trust me on this - that doesn't cover it.

Then your costs aren't reasonable...

Which is exactly why there's a question about the match ;)

It depends on the size of the squad, backroom teams and so on. Some counties would put professional soccer and rugby teams to shame, hardly Croke Parks place to pick up the tab for this flamboyance, is it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 25, 2015, 04:28:54 PM
Well, if ye didnt bring the feckin bus over to Heathrow then costs may be been reasonable  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 25, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.

Really Syf, the only one getting sensitive is yourself about comments about Cake, or so it seems anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 25, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.

Really Syf, the only one getting sensitive is yourself about comments about Cake, or so it seems anyway.

Ah come off it Farr. Be it Cake or anyone on the Sunday Game the posters here are comically critical. I remember when they thought McStay was shite too..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on May 25, 2015, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 25, 2015, 03:47:12 PM
The London game is a social day out/drinking festival with a match thrown in as an excuse.

Good mate of mine from Leitrim reckons there are hundreds of Leitrim "supporters" that have been to Gaelic Park in the Bronx more times than they have gone to Carrick on Shannon to see Leitrim play .

Drives him nuts so he tells me to hear the crowing from them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 25, 2015, 05:25:00 PM
In fairness, there are probably more Leitrim people in the Bronx than there are living in Leitrim.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on May 25, 2015, 05:30:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 25, 2015, 05:25:00 PM
In fairness, there are probably more Leitrim people in the Bronx than there are living in Leitrim.

Should have clarified. He reckons there are some  Leitrim fans that would fly to NY every 4 years or so for the game and the shopping etc etc  before they would step foot in a GAA ground in the county itself. Come back smugged up.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2015, 05:34:34 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 25, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
God, ye Ros lads are very hard on the cockneens.

Well according to the referendum there, they are not really

;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 25, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.

Really Syf, the only one getting sensitive is yourself about comments about Cake, or so it seems anyway.

Ah come off it Farr. Be it Cake or anyone on the Sunday Game the posters here are comically critical. I remember when they thought McStay was shite too..

Benny Coulter hardly got rave reviews last week, call it as you see it and be honest, Cake was bad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 25, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: Bingo on May 25, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 25, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.

Really Syf, the only one getting sensitive is yourself about comments about Cake, or so it seems anyway.

Ah come off it Farr. Be it Cake or anyone on the Sunday Game the posters here are comically critical. I remember when they thought McStay was shite too..

Benny Coulter hardly got rave reviews last week, call it as you see it and be honest, Cake was bad.
And McStay did  throw in a good bit of shíte into his review of the monaghan cavan game,  it's just that Cake made him sound more educated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on May 25, 2015, 08:05:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 25, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 12:54:09 PM
I think if Plato came back to life and started doing a bit of punditry half the people here would be complaining.

What's the perfect GAA Board pundit? Someone who doesn't offend the sensitive Ulster souls, doesn't mention Dublin's money mountain or Kerry's soft province?

Des Cahill it is so lads.

Really Syf, the only one getting sensitive is yourself about comments about Cake, or so it seems anyway.

Ah come off it Farr. Be it Cake or anyone on the Sunday Game the posters here are comically critical. I remember when they thought McStay was shite too..

He still is!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 26, 2015, 11:52:30 AM
I've Googled 'vertical pass football' to see what the hell a vertical pass is and here is what I got

(http://images.worldfootballdaily.com/images/blog/Mikel%20to%20Ivanovic.jpg.png)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on May 26, 2015, 12:07:01 PM
Cake's no fool I see a triangle there..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LeoMc on May 26, 2015, 01:11:31 PM
Should have him back on for the next Tyrone game, at least he will be able to talk with authority about diving.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 26, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.
Dunno what Cake's proposal is, but my proposal is that both London and New York should be shipped around the provinces, so every county gets to travel to them.

You'd get a right big travelling support knowing that you're next foreign trip for a GAA match isn't for 16 years. New York, once every 32 years, shure you'd have to go!

Although the feckin Leinster council would probably vote for them to play in Croker when it was the Dubs turn  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 26, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 26, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.
Dunno what Cake's proposal is, but my proposal is that both London and New York should be shipped around the provinces, so every county gets to travel to them.

You'd get a right big travelling support knowing that you're next foreign trip for a GAA match isn't for 16 years. New York, once every 32 years, shure you'd have to go!

Although the feckin Leinster council would probably vote for them to play in Croker when it was the Dubs turn  >:(

But then New York would beat Carlow or someone and then what? Their hurlers refused to travel some years ago. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 26, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.
Dunno what Cake's proposal is, but my proposal is that both London and New York should be shipped around the provinces, so every county gets to travel to them.

You'd get a right big travelling support knowing that you're next foreign trip for a GAA match isn't for 16 years. New York, once every 32 years, shure you'd have to go!

Although the feckin Leinster council would probably vote for them to play in Croker when it was the Dubs turn  >:(
The Dubs would certainly look like a fish out of water in Ruislip.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 26, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 26, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 26, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.
Dunno what Cake's proposal is, but my proposal is that both London and New York should be shipped around the provinces, so every county gets to travel to them.

You'd get a right big travelling support knowing that you're next foreign trip for a GAA match isn't for 16 years. New York, once every 32 years, shure you'd have to go!

Although the feckin Leinster council would probably vote for them to play in Croker when it was the Dubs turn  >:(

But then New York would beat Carlow or someone and then what? Their hurlers refused to travel some years ago.

Yip, New York hurlers refused to travel over to play Antrim after they beat Derry in Gaelic park.

IIRC the reasoning was that a good few of the team had dubious visa arrangements and may have difficulty traveling back into the US!!

London don't suffer from this problem though!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 26, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 26, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 26, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 25, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
His proposal about London can be shoved up his hole

I wouldn't be in favour of it myself but ye aren't the ones spending a small fortune sending a team out to London and New York so it's very easy to sit back and throw stones when you're not footing the bill. It is an open question like it or not.
Dunno what Cake's proposal is, but my proposal is that both London and New York should be shipped around the provinces, so every county gets to travel to them.

You'd get a right big travelling support knowing that you're next foreign trip for a GAA match isn't for 16 years. New York, once every 32 years, shure you'd have to go!

Although the feckin Leinster council would probably vote for them to play in Croker when it was the Dubs turn  >:(

But then New York would beat Carlow or someone and then what? Their hurlers refused to travel some years ago.

Yip, New York hurlers refused to travel over to play Antrim after they beat Derry in Gaelic park.

IIRC the reasoning was that a good few of the team had dubious visa arrangements and may have difficulty traveling back into the US!!

London don't suffer from this problem though!

Yes and this was widely reported at the time. Considering it was easy to find out who played against Derry, they all but handed them over to the authorities.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 27, 2015, 01:59:53 PM
NY  were never the brightest sparks in the GAA world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2015, 02:06:45 PM
They sent over the minors to play us in the Connacht championship a few years back at Croker. I suppose those younglings would be born in the US and would be able to get back home without problems. Does seem like the elements of the GAA in America are built on a house of cards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 27, 2015, 04:38:51 PM
Too much emphasis on the semi pro circus!
Good to see the likes of Eamon from this Board trying to spread the real gospel across the U. S.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on May 27, 2015, 05:13:14 PM
I just watched the Sunday Game there last night  and poor aul Cake was chattin out of his hole

I thought a vertical pass might have been the opposite of a horizontal/ lateral pass ie. a straight pass up the field but what he highlighted wasn't even that

Regarding the triangles WTF was he on about? I thought that he was going to highlight the lads making a triangle with a passing movement but he would highlight the passer and receiver and another random fella on the pitch who had nothing to do with the play and called it a triangle.  ???

Also did he say Monaghan extrapolate the geometry of the field?

I think he must have been doing his maths homework as the same time as watching the match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 27, 2015, 05:46:31 PM
He would have been better off if he put away his protractor and took the time to learn the names of some of the players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 27, 2015, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on May 27, 2015, 05:13:14 PM
I just watched the Sunday Game there last night  and poor aul Cake was chattin out of his hole

I thought a vertical pass might have been the opposite of a horizontal/ lateral pass ie. a straight pass up the field but what he highlighted wasn't even that

Regarding the triangles WTF was he on about? I thought that he was going to highlight the lads making a triangle with a passing movement but he would highlight the passer and receiver and another random fella on the pitch who had nothing to do with the play and called it a triangle.  ???

Also did he say Monaghan extrapolate the geometry of the field?

I think he must have been doing his maths homework as the same time as watching the match.

Other than Whealan and McStay, par for the course.
often wondered what an application for a spot on that show must read like.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2015, 08:46:21 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 26, 2015, 11:52:30 AM
I've Googled 'vertical pass football' to see what the hell a vertical pass is and here is what I got

(http://images.worldfootballdaily.com/images/blog/Mikel%20to%20Ivanovic.jpg.png)

Makes sense to me.

The Square is covering all the right angles, while Star will go down the wing in a twinkle. Triangle keeps the beat in this gig.

Piece of Cake.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on May 27, 2015, 09:16:11 PM
To be fair and in all seriousness to Cake its not his fault he's just pointed out what was goin on

Its Malachy O'Rouke and his fancy fiddlin, Ryan Porter has probably had a hand in it to, I mind him at Maths class in school a bit of a know it all.

But then they have only simplified it from Banty's day, when thon hoor told the players the way the wanted them to run and kick the ball it was in 3d parabolic equations! Imagine you get the ball and some hoor starts shouting at ye "z = 15x2 - 236y3".   
Unsurprisingly it confused the shite outta some of the players, the rumour was Tommy Freeman was the only man that got the whole thing. But apparently Banty had every match worked out through Mathematics he just couldn't relate it to the players well enough to replicate it on the field.

So watch out if yous think Cake was bad it could be a whole lot worse if they had Banty on!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 27, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 27, 2015, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on May 27, 2015, 05:13:14 PM
I just watched the Sunday Game there last night  and poor aul Cake was chattin out of his hole

I thought a vertical pass might have been the opposite of a horizontal/ lateral pass ie. a straight pass up the field but what he highlighted wasn't even that

Regarding the triangles WTF was he on about? I thought that he was going to highlight the lads making a triangle with a passing movement but he would highlight the passer and receiver and another random fella on the pitch who had nothing to do with the play and called it a triangle.  ???

Also did he say Monaghan extrapolate the geometry of the field?

I think he must have been doing his maths homework as the same time as watching the match.

Other than Whealan and McStay, par for the course.
often wondered what an application for a spot on that show must read like.

Here is a successful applicant doing his interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f--nttQU9P4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f--nttQU9P4)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 28, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
In fairness he obviously said it tongue-in-cheek. If this is what we're getting upset about now - the bould womaniser extraordinare Martt Morriessiey being insulted by Brolly - the thread has jumped the shark.

Brolly himself acknowledges it was a low act.
You should ask Cake to call over to the house with his protractor and give you a hand adjusting your moral compass.

"Marty Morrissey is a decent, good humoured man. When I apologised to him he was quick to accept it. But there is no doubt he was hurt. It was a very poor thing to say and I am still cringing about it as I write this."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-admits-he-is-still-cringing-over-marty-morrissey-comments-31260723.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=irishinde (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-admits-he-is-still-cringing-over-marty-morrissey-comments-31260723.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=irishinde)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 28, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 28, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
In fairness he obviously said it tongue-in-cheek. If this is what we're getting upset about now - the bould womaniser extraordinare Martt Morriessiey being insulted by Brolly - the thread has jumped the shark.

Brolly himself acknowledges it was a low act.
You should ask Cake to call over to the house with his protractor and give you a hand adjusting your moral compass.

"Marty Morrissey is a decent, good humoured man. When I apologised to him he was quick to accept it. But there is no doubt he was hurt. It was a very poor thing to say and I am still cringing about it as I write this."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-admits-he-is-still-cringing-over-marty-morrissey-comments-31260723.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=irishinde (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-admits-he-is-still-cringing-over-marty-morrissey-comments-31260723.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=irishinde)

Never said it was in good taste. He was right to apologize but it easily one of the silliest things Broly's walked himself into. I guess in a lot of peoples' eyes he's set himself up to be raked over for every minor indiscretion but calling for someone to be fired because they made a bad joke (as some here were) was more OTT than anything Broly's ever said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 28, 2015, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2015, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 28, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 24, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
In fairness he obviously said it tongue-in-cheek. If this is what we're getting upset about now - the bould womaniser extraordinare Martt Morriessiey being insulted by Brolly - the thread has jumped the shark.

Brolly himself acknowledges it was a low act.
You should ask Cake to call over to the house with his protractor and give you a hand adjusting your moral compass.

"Marty Morrissey is a decent, good humoured man. When I apologised to him he was quick to accept it. But there is no doubt he was hurt. It was a very poor thing to say and I am still cringing about it as I write this."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-admits-he-is-still-cringing-over-marty-morrissey-comments-31260723.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=irishinde (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-admits-he-is-still-cringing-over-marty-morrissey-comments-31260723.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=irishinde)

Never said it was in good taste. He was right to apologize but it easily one of the silliest things Broly's walked himself into. I guess in a lot of peoples' eyes he's set himself up to be raked over for every minor indiscretion but calling for someone to be fired because they made a bad joke (as some here were) was more OTT than anything Broly's ever said.

If it was a one off brain fart then I'm sure most would have laughed it off, but unfortunately it's been a consistent trait of his "analysis" for a few years now. But if that's the sort of shite that you accept as analysis then fair enough, each to their own.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 28, 2015, 10:29:53 PM
I think that negative trait is getting worse, not just consistent. Joe doesn't even acknowledge that he might have to behave himself for a while and there is no evidence that he's emotionally maturing to deal with type of nonsense.

Maybe someone else has a better memory of all his dubious moments but I suspect they are getting progressively wackier  and more often. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 28, 2015, 11:10:30 PM
I didn't see the MM insult last Sunday so I just YouTubed it. I then saw this one again after it.
O'Rourke's reaction to Joe's rant showed Joe up for his bias and ego of being controversial.
https://youtu.be/8cQyAuErSVI (https://youtu.be/8cQyAuErSVI)
RTE certainly have an out of control Ulster man now who is calling the shots with sensationalism.
I wonder will they regret it or are viewing numbers rising as more shit is stirred.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 28, 2015, 11:21:41 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 28, 2015, 11:10:30 PM
I didn't see the MM insult last Sunday so I just YouTubed it. I then saw this one again after it.
O'Rourke's reaction to Joe's rant showed Joe up for his bias and ego of being controversial.
https://youtu.be/8cQyAuErSVI (https://youtu.be/8cQyAuErSVI)
RTE certainly have an out of control Ulster man now who is calling the shots with sensationalism.
I wonder will they regret it or are viewing numbers rising as more shit is stirred.

All the housewives will be tuning in to see what Joe says about their hero next.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 28, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 28, 2015, 10:29:53 PM
I think that negative trait is getting worse, not just consistent. Joe doesn't even acknowledge that he might have to behave himself for a while and there is no evidence that he's emotionally maturing to deal with type of nonsense.

Maybe someone else has a better memory of all his dubious moments but I suspect they are getting progressively wackier  and more often.

Off the top of my head, the jibe at Colm O'Rourke regarding his property dealings and the comments about Rachel Wyse show a reasonable level of consistency.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 28, 2015, 11:24:15 PM
I want to see positive and negative punditry

An intelligent person should know when to avoid it getting personal.
Otherwise, they do it deliberately
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on May 28, 2015, 11:28:03 PM
For a man of his standing professionally it was a bit stupid. Surprised he came out with that shite. The real professional during that incident was Michael Lyster. Class act.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 28, 2015, 11:48:54 PM
I forgot about how relevant this sketch was
https://youtu.be/KhSZk78mcjI (https://youtu.be/KhSZk78mcjI)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 28, 2015, 11:54:00 PM
Lyster is a true gent and a great unbiased anchor man unlike Dessie and Spillane was for a while.
https://youtu.be/JmLgOkzYsfw (https://youtu.be/JmLgOkzYsfw)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 31, 2015, 03:44:08 PM
Fook's sake, was hopeful there, then he said "Spillane & O'Rourke"! :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 31, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Pat doing his usual stat attack feature. If he hadn't a load of useless stats to list out I'm not sure he'd have anything to say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 31, 2015, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 31, 2015, 03:55:15 PM
Pat doing his usual stat attack feature. If he hadn't a load of useless stats to list out I'm not sure he's have anything to say.

That and his Similes and Metaphors. And his age old pub-jokes!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 31, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
I predict a "state of football" debate is on the way
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 31, 2015, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 31, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
I predict a "state of football" debate is on the way

Yep
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
Existential crisis #357
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inexile on May 31, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
Lots of patronizing noises of the  "brave little longford" variety from the two lads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 31, 2015, 10:03:31 PM
Des asking a few good questions there for wance regarding the hurling.

McHugh is a wee w**ker, of course hurling should have been he big game today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
We had a 2nd tier before.
It was called the Tommy Murphy Cup and the weaker counties pissed and moaned about having to play in it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 31, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
does mchugh ever finish a sentence?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 31, 2015, 10:26:11 PM
I used to long for the c'ship coming. Now it's boring and I couldn't give a shite. I would've watched most live games in TV. Now I find myself doing anything but watching them. The c'ship is stale and provincial c'ships are diluted. Seriously time for a shake up before I start watching the cricket or ski sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 31, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 31, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
does mchugh ever finish a sentence?

No, he was let out under the Good Friday Agreement.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:30:24 PM
What do we actually want though?
Simplest thing is to run the provincial championships as a home & away league (replacing actual league).
Top two play off for provincial title, top 4 progress into All-Ireland series (champions league style).
Everyone else goes into a knock-out competition which replaces the current qualifiers and the winner gets back into the All-Ireland series.
Loads of games, everyone has something to play for.
I know you don't have equal numbers in each province but splitting the whole lot up into four groups of eight is never going to happen.
The provincial councils won't allow it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rodman on May 31, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Why did Jack Sheedy start banging on about Tyrone and Donegal in his post match interview...i fail to follow what relevance that had to his team getting beat by 27 points.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StephenC on May 31, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
We had a 2nd tier before.
It was called the Tommy Murphy Cup and the weaker counties pissed and moaned about having to play in it.

It wasn't a 2nd tier competition. It was an additional competition for those in the 2nd tier. A significant difference. Make it so that the Tommy Murphy (or whatever) is the only show in town for the bottom 16 counties , and they'll soon start to enjoy it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 31, 2015, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Rodman on May 31, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Why did Jack Sheedy start banging on about Tyrone and Donegal in his post match interview...i fail to follow what relevance that had to his team getting beat by 27 points.

wandering that meself!! :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: StephenC on May 31, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
We had a 2nd tier before.
It was called the Tommy Murphy Cup and the weaker counties pissed and moaned about having to play in it.

It wasn't a 2nd tier competition. It was an additional competition for those in the 2nd tier. A significant difference. Make it so that the Tommy Murphy (or whatever) is the only show in town for the bottom 16 counties , and they'll soon start to enjoy it.

Were you waving your fist at the computer as you typed that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on May 31, 2015, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: StephenC on May 31, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
We had a 2nd tier before.
It was called the Tommy Murphy Cup and the weaker counties pissed and moaned about having to play in it.

It wasn't a 2nd tier competition. It was an additional competition for those in the 2nd tier. A significant difference. Make it so that the Tommy Murphy (or whatever) is the only show in town for the bottom 16 counties , and they'll soon start to enjoy it.

Were you waving your fist at the computer as you typed that?

haha laughing myself silly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 31, 2015, 10:43:58 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: StephenC on May 31, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
We had a 2nd tier before.
It was called the Tommy Murphy Cup and the weaker counties pissed and moaned about having to play in it.

It wasn't a 2nd tier competition. It was an additional competition for those in the 2nd tier. A significant difference. Make it so that the Tommy Murphy (or whatever) is the only show in town for the bottom 16 counties , and they'll soon start to enjoy it.

Were you waving your fist at the computer as you typed that?

It was second tier. Remember div 4 counties weren't allowed enter the Qualifiers?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LaurelEye on May 31, 2015, 10:47:49 PM
Quote from: Rodman on May 31, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Why did Jack Sheedy start banging on about Tyrone and Donegal in his post match interview...i fail to follow what relevance that had to his team getting beat by 27 points.

It's called distraction.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StephenC on May 31, 2015, 10:53:28 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 31, 2015, 10:43:58 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: StephenC on May 31, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 10:21:05 PM
We had a 2nd tier before.
It was called the Tommy Murphy Cup and the weaker counties pissed and moaned about having to play in it.

It wasn't a 2nd tier competition. It was an additional competition for those in the 2nd tier. A significant difference. Make it so that the Tommy Murphy (or whatever) is the only show in town for the bottom 16 counties , and they'll soon start to enjoy it.

Were you waving your fist at the computer as you typed that?

It was second tier. Remember div 4 counties weren't allowed enter the Qualifiers?

I was certainly waving my fist and mumbling under my breath. I'm glad it carried through.

AZ - point taken, but the TM cup wasn't positioned as a parallel competition, it was a poorly thought out add-on that was doomed from the start.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on May 31, 2015, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: Rodman on May 31, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Why did Jack Sheedy start banging on about Tyrone and Donegal in his post match interview...i fail to follow what relevance that had to his team getting beat by 27 points.

Because he got his ass handed to him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 11:01:02 PM
It all ties in with the 'Everyone should get to play in Croke Park' type of thing we heard from Paul Barden before the game today.
Tell a player from Longford that he can either take a hammering from Dublin or he can play in a 2nd tier championship and he'd probably say the latter makes more sense (especially if you asked him now).
But, when you actually put him in that 2nd tier championship how will he react?
Well, we know how he'll react, because we've been here before.
Is it not just easier to let them risk a mauling at the hands of Dublin and then play a couple of qualifier games where they actually have a chance of getting a win?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sea The Stars on May 31, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
I found it hilarious that there was all this concern for what a result like that would do for Longford football yet not a mention of Waterford who lost by 22 points. These guys are sensationalist and produce the same analysis I would expect down in the pub. Why did Dessie Dolan not suggest an actual solution? For example how you would divide teams between tiers? Because next year Tipperary and Longford will both be Division 3 teams - should both be in a hypothetical second tier? Why did not analyse the Tipperary/Waterford game the same way they analysed the Dublin/Longford game? The Newstalk team of Parkinson, Devenney, Horan and Canavan are far superior to the majority of RTE analysts.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sea The Stars on May 31, 2015, 11:02:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 11:01:02 PM
It all ties in with the 'Everyone should get to play in Croke Park' type of thing we heard from Paul Barden before the game today.
Tell a player from Longford that he can either take a hammering from Dublin or he can play in a 2nd tier championship and he'd probably say the latter makes more sense (especially if you asked him now).
But, when you actually put him in that 2nd tier championship how will he react?
Well, we know how he'll react, because we've been here before.
Is it not just easier to let them risk a mauling at the hands of Dublin and then play a couple of qualifier games where they actually have a chance of getting a win?

Totally agree.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sea The Stars on May 31, 2015, 11:04:44 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on May 31, 2015, 10:35:04 PM
Quote from: Rodman on May 31, 2015, 10:31:05 PM
Why did Jack Sheedy start banging on about Tyrone and Donegal in his post match interview...i fail to follow what relevance that had to his team getting beat by 27 points.

wandering that meself!! :) :) :) :)

Also wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
There's another point worth considering here.
People say, "We talk about this every year!" and throw their hands up to heaven as if this is some massively significant issue.
Yeah, we do talk about this every year, but it's always at this time, i.e. the first & second round of games where the mismatches are more pronounced.
Usually in the aftermath of Dublin mincing someone I might add.
Is this an issue for Ulster?
No.
Is this an issue for Connacht?
Not really.
Is this an issue for Munster?
Probably not, as the provincial winner is not a foregone conclusion.
So basically we're talking about ripping up the whole script and years of tradition on the back of Dublin being too good for every other team in Leinster, at this point in time.
The solution seems pretty obvious...





get rid of Dublin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sea The Stars on May 31, 2015, 11:18:18 PM
Jinxy where are these counties not screaming for change? These counties have delegates on provincial councils and as far as I am aware there's not been one motion at Congress to change the format and/or introduce a second tier. I stand to be corrected but that's my belief.

The reality is there is no appetite for it.

Also don't want to be too harsh on Longford who to be fair have reached 4 Leinster u21 finals since 2003 and have won a Leinster minor championship. Also knocked Derry out twice and have beaten teams like Cavan and Mayo in the last 5 years while also reaching Division 2 for a period. So clearly there is good work going there.

But they went out today expecting to be beaten like that and Dublin duly obliged. Sheedy hadn't them prepared at all and had the audacity to try and moan about the Tyrone and Donegal match in his interview.

My concern here is the sympathy being extended towards Longford. I thought many of their players were hopeless today (a few exceptions) as was their manager. I've a feeling he sent them out knowing no matter what the result, there'd be this argument to fall back on. The wider discussion of championship imbalance should not distract from a very poor performance by Longford.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trentoneill15 on June 01, 2015, 12:48:46 AM
I often wonder who the lassie is on the montage with the tongue piercing, a nice lassie indeed. I am probably the only one who has noticed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LaurelEye on June 01, 2015, 02:11:05 AM
Quote from: Sea The Stars on May 31, 2015, 11:18:18 PM
But they went out today expecting to be beaten like that and Dublin duly obliged. Sheedy hadn't them prepared at all and had the audacity to try and moan about the Tyrone and Donegal match in his interview.

My concern here is the sympathy being extended towards Longford. I thought many of their players were hopeless today (a few exceptions) as was their manager. I've a feeling he sent them out knowing no matter what the result, there'd be this argument to fall back on. The wider discussion of championship imbalance should not distract from a very poor performance by Longford.

This.

He should have been waved farewell to last year, but wasn't. The commentary briefly mentioned that "eight players had left the panel over the winter". We might ask why that happened.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on June 01, 2015, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
There's another point worth considering here.
People say, "We talk about this every year!" and throw their hands up to heaven as if this is some massively significant issue.
Yeah, we do talk about this every year, but it's always at this time, i.e. the first & second round of games where the mismatches are more pronounced.
Usually in the aftermath of Dublin mincing someone I might add.
Is this an issue for Ulster?
No.
Is this an issue for Connacht?
Not really.
Is this an issue for Munster?
Probably not, as the provincial winner is not a foregone conclusion.
So basically we're talking about ripping up the whole script and years of tradition on the back of Dublin being too good for every other team in Leinster, at this point in time.
The solution seems pretty obvious...





get rid of Dublin.
Given its status as capital, might be an option to rotate Dublin between all the provinces. Would spice things up to play in the Connacht championship next year, Ulster the year after, then Munster, then back to Leinster. Would make the Leinster championship a lot more interesting too
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 01, 2015, 10:23:58 AM
I thought Dessie Dolan was quite good last night on the Sunday game. He did some revolutionary stuff like do a bit of research on the teams he was commentating on and even if you dont agree with his opinions at least he made them in a clear and concise manner. Compare that to the lazy uninformed shite that Spillane, Brolly and to a lesser extent O Rourke spout where every team is pre labelled before a ball has been kicked and each man knows one player on each team and will "analyse" that player based on something they did 3 years ago. Well I'd have Dessie on the Sunday game and put the other 3 clowns out to graze.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 01, 2015, 10:56:30 AM
Sure McHugh was brutal too.
Like a wee excited beagle he was leppin about the seat trying to make umpteen different points without finishing a sentence, whilst non of them related to either the question he was asked nor the footage being shown as he spoke. Is it too much to ask for analysis instead of the shite we are fed regularly on a sunday evenin by ex-players that might have been decent on the field, but clearly cant articulate their points clearly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 01, 2015, 11:20:46 AM
McStay is the only one I can listen to. Used to hate him for some unknown reason! But he has his homework done. He calls it as it is with weaker counties without being patronising. Spillane just stick to the safe stats stuff and looks at a county traditionally. O'Rourke is solid, not much guff, but seems to have fell into the lazy stuff aswell. Brolly is just car crash TV. Tries harder than Spilane and O'Rourke to get a real angle on things, but has just ended up the clown of the panel. Whelan is decent. My problem with him is him talking on controversial issues, it sounds so ironic! O'Shea after a good start. Sounds like a broken record. All the good sound bites from last year seemed to be rehashed and he knows little or nothing of Football in the provinces bar his own.

As for co-commentators Martin Carney (who always gets Mayo and Donegal Matches) and Tommy Carr. Sweet Jesus!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2015, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: Hound on June 01, 2015, 09:40:51 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 31, 2015, 11:09:21 PM
There's another point worth considering here.
People say, "We talk about this every year!" and throw their hands up to heaven as if this is some massively significant issue.
Yeah, we do talk about this every year, but it's always at this time, i.e. the first & second round of games where the mismatches are more pronounced.
Usually in the aftermath of Dublin mincing someone I might add.
Is this an issue for Ulster?
No.
Is this an issue for Connacht?
Not really.
Is this an issue for Munster?
Probably not, as the provincial winner is not a foregone conclusion.
So basically we're talking about ripping up the whole script and years of tradition on the back of Dublin being too good for every other team in Leinster, at this point in time.
The solution seems pretty obvious...





get rid of Dublin.
Given its status as capital, might be an option to rotate Dublin between all the provinces. Would spice things up to play in the Connacht championship next year, Ulster the year after, then Munster, then back to Leinster. Would make the Leinster championship a lot more interesting too
Good shout. Could be good to get an early match in Croke Park for teams from other provinces instead of waiting until August bank hol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: fearglasmor on June 01, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Rte graphic still calls it the back door.
Look at thd GAA website fixtures. Five tabs. L M U and C championships and one for All Ireland.
The reality is the structure has changed and no one in the media has picked up on it.
Provincials ard now jus stand alone comps that determind cedeing fof when you enter the All Ireland.
The structure is good except for Ulster who else screw it up bh not cedeing their championship. So now you have the stupid situation of Tyrone being in the first round of the All Ireland with 3rd and 4th division teams.
They just need to sort out the fixtures scheduling now. The world has changed by stealth.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 01, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 01, 2015, 11:20:46 AM
McStay is the only one I can listen to. Used to hate him for some unknown reason! But he has his homework done. He calls it as it is with weaker counties without being patronising. Spillane just stick to the safe stats stuff and looks at a county traditionally. O'Rourke is solid, not much guff, but seems to have fell into the lazy stuff aswell. Brolly is just car crash TV. Tries harder than Spilane and O'Rourke to get a real angle on things, but has just ended up the clown of the panel. Whelan is decent. My problem with him is him talking on controversial issues, it sounds so ironic! O'Shea after a good start. Sounds like a broken record. All the good sound bites from last year seemed to be rehashed and he knows little or nothing of Football in the provinces bar his own.

As for co-commentators Martin Carney (who always gets Mayo and Donegal Matches) and Tommy Carr. Sweet Jesus!

I agree on McStay. When he was a co commentator he really annoyed me but when he is sat in the studio I think he is a different man and is one of the best. Comes across like a decent bloke. The combination nation of Canning and Carney on commentating duties is a poor one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 01, 2015, 07:18:31 PM
Why are the night time men much better analysts. The day time live programme has the 3 amigos who just look for headlines and cheap jibes, whereas the night programme actually does attempt to analyse the games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sea The Stars on June 01, 2015, 07:56:36 PM
The Sunday Game ensures there's a talking point every week. So far sledging, Brolly's remark about Marty Morrissey and this week O'Rourke calling for a change in structure. There's always something the following week to keep everyone talking.

Also completely agree with fearglasmor, I have actually made that exact same point as you before. Provincial championships just determine what stage you enter the All-Ireland race. The GAA should try and market this structure a bit better.

The qualifiers are now an opportunity for Longford to show progress where they will be coming up against teams of similar ability to themselves.  I think this format is as good as any B championship. The advantage of the qualifiers is that the further you progress, the standard gets better giving lesser counties a chance to test themselves against teams increasing in quality.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 01, 2015, 11:05:47 PM
Quote from: Sea The Stars on June 01, 2015, 07:56:36 PM
The Sunday Game ensures there's a talking point every week. So far sledging, Brolly's remark about Marty Morrissey and this week O'Rourke calling for a change in structure. There's always something the following week to keep everyone talking.

Also completely agree with fearglasmor, I have actually made that exact same point as you before. Provincial championships just determine what stage you enter the All-Ireland race. The GAA should try and market this structure a bit better.

The qualifiers are now an opportunity for Longford to show progress where they will be coming up against teams of similar ability to themselves.  I think this format is as good as any B championship. The advantage of the qualifiers is that the further you progress, the standard gets better giving lesser counties a chance to test themselves against teams increasing in quality.
Unless you get a lucky draw, a few home draws or come up against opponents who've had less time to prepare after a deflating defeat in a big game (eg Sligo in 2010 or Louth in 2010)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: panc56 on June 01, 2015, 11:47:29 PM
Agreed Sheedy is getting away with murder. If it was two years ago with Glen Ryan I charge we would not have had that beating nor would we have left the gate open so widely early on. I'm not foolish enough to think we could have won the game but at least we would have given Dublin a test. Would Horan , McGuinnes Harte etc have allowed it to occur?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 01, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
So first managerial vacancy for 2016 will be the Larries :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LaurelEye on June 02, 2015, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 01, 2015, 11:58:36 PM
So first managerial vacancy for 2016 will be the Larries :D

I doubt it unless the clubs rear up to a greater extent than they did last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 03, 2015, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: panc56 on June 01, 2015, 11:47:29 PM
Agreed Sheedy is getting away with murder. If it was two years ago with Glen Ryan I charge we would not have had that beating nor would we have left the gate open so widely early on. I'm not foolish enough to think we could have won the game but at least we would have given Dublin a test. Would Horan , McGuinnes Harte etc have allowed it to occur?

I think the fact that he 1) got promotion out of Division 4 2) got revenge for the league final loss to Offaly so recently 3) the bookies had Dublin at 1/200 mean that he had a fair bit of credit banked and anyone trying to criticise at him would have a very tricky route to walk to not come across as being overly critical.

I think he'd be getting a whole lot more criticism for his approach if Longford hadn't gotten promoted in the league. 
There's also the fact that Longford were one of the few Leinster counties who made clear progess in the league.
I also have a sneaky feeling that the 0-10 Longford scored against the Dubs might look a bit more impressive come the end of the championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 04, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
The president is not at all happy with Sunday game analysis.

RTE must be loving all this talk. No such thing as bad publicity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2015, 08:53:48 AM
He certainly shoots from the hip anyway.
I dunno whether that's a good or a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2015, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: orangeman on June 04, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
The president is not at all happy with Sunday game analysis.

RTE must be loving all this talk. No such thing as bad publicity.

Unless you're the GAA apparently..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on June 04, 2015, 12:21:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 04, 2015, 12:20:01 PM
Quote from: orangeman on June 04, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
The president is not at all happy with Sunday game analysis.

RTE must be loving all this talk. No such thing as bad publicity.

Unless you're the GAA apparently..

or George Ratner
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 06, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
Michael Lyster rushed to hospital last night with a sudden illness. Fcuk hope he's ok.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=238670
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 07, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
Was watching the Laois/Kildare match on SKY. Terrible coverage, not one derogatory comment about a player or a team, no slating the standard of football and for all their stats they couldn't tell me how many handpasses each team did which is critical to any analysis of a GAA match. These SKY people even spent a sizable amount of time talking about the game which is just daft. I'll never watch this rubbish again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on June 07, 2015, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 07, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
Was watching the Laois/Kildare match on SKY. Terrible coverage, not one derogatory comment about a player or a team, no slating the standard of football and for all their stats they couldn't tell me how many handpasses each team did which is critical to any analysis of a GAA match. These SKY people even spent a sizable amount of time talking about the game which is just daft. I'll never watch this rubbish again.

Do you know if match is to be repeated on sky. Was at a function last night and missed the match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 07, 2015, 12:09:16 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on June 07, 2015, 11:51:07 AM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on June 07, 2015, 11:44:49 AM
Was watching the Laois/Kildare match on SKY. Terrible coverage, not one derogatory comment about a player or a team, no slating the standard of football and for all their stats they couldn't tell me how many handpasses each team did which is critical to any analysis of a GAA match. These SKY people even spent a sizable amount of time talking about the game which is just daft. I'll never watch this rubbish again.

Do you know if match is to be repeated on sky. Was at a function last night and missed the match.

It was repeated this morning, dunno if it will be on again
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 07, 2015, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on June 06, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
Michael Lyster rushed to hospital last night with a sudden illness. Fcuk hope he's ok.

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=238670

Best wishes Michael.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 07, 2015, 09:53:35 PM
Just watched the game again and I'll comment on it later...but Colm O'Rourke really is a bitter fcuker when it comes to Down. For jaysus sake Colm get over it...it was nearly 24 years ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on June 07, 2015, 10:07:56 PM
Pathetic highlights of the Laois hurling match.
 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 07, 2015, 10:17:04 PM
only tuning in now. has the football or hurling been on first???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on June 07, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
hurling on first.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Over the Bar on June 07, 2015, 10:24:32 PM
Joe Canning making Dublin defence look like beached whales!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 07, 2015, 10:41:29 PM
Anthony Daly would need to lay off the jam sandwiches before the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 07, 2015, 11:19:38 PM
Quote from: Armamike on June 07, 2015, 10:19:44 PM
hurling on first.

Hurling usually on first.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 07, 2015, 11:31:58 PM
Can we get a trending thing going or picket the RTE studios and demand they bring back the original theme at the start of the program? That new one is just bollix.

What do you reckon?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 07, 2015, 11:51:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 07, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 07, 2015, 10:07:56 PM
Pathetic highlights of the Laois hurling match.

At least they got Zayne (sp?) Keenan's sideline cut which would have been worth the entrance fee itself. Superb.
Not really! I'd still love a refund.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 07, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Why bother showing so much highlights from games that were already shown live both Sunday and Saturday?

When there are other games - Kildare v Laois, Laois v Offaly, Westmeath v Wexford and all the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher finals that got no RTE live coverage?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 08, 2015, 06:56:19 AM
Cause these are the bigger games

They have two commentators at these bigger games

More cameras at these games


Anyway missed the Offaly Laois game. What the hell happened???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 08, 2015, 09:14:43 AM
Laois won.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on June 08, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 08, 2015, 06:56:19 AM
Cause these are the bigger games

They have two commentators at these bigger games

More cameras at these games


Anyway missed the Offaly Laois game. What the hell happened???
Not a big game?
There was almost 8,000 in Portlaoise yesterday. There wasn't much more at the LondonDerry v Down game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on June 08, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 08, 2015, 06:56:19 AM
Cause these are the bigger games

They have two commentators at these bigger games

More cameras at these games


Anyway missed the Offaly Laois game. What the hell happened???
Not a big game?
There was almost 8,000 in Portlaoise yesterday. There wasn't much more at the LondonDerry v Down game.

If you are going to be a tit and use it, at least get the grammar correct. It is Londonderry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 08, 2015, 11:30:28 AM
Quote from: TheOptimist on June 08, 2015, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on June 08, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 08, 2015, 06:56:19 AM
Cause these are the bigger games

They have two commentators at these bigger games

More cameras at these games


Anyway missed the Offaly Laois game. What the hell happened???
Not a big game?
There was almost 8,000 in Portlaoise yesterday. There wasn't much more at the LondonDerry v Down game.

If you are going to be a tit and use it, at least get the grammar correct. It is Londonderry.

And there was over 10k at the Derry game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 08, 2015, 11:37:37 AM
Is it my imagination, or has Pat Spillane had a positivity uplift operation? He was trying his best to talk up that game until he broke down at the end with his 72 minutes comment, but he was talking about intensity, no one leaving etc etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on June 08, 2015, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 07, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Why bother showing so much highlights from games that were already shown live both Sunday and Saturday?
When there are other games - Kildare v Laois, Laois v Offaly, Westmeath v Wexford and all the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher finals that got no RTE live coverage?

Sunday game is usually precorded earlier, the SG analysts are in RTE during the games and can select clips etc for anlysis as its happening. These are packaged together and always first.

The games from out and about are then scanned for scores usually and packaged accordingly with a slice  of cliche and predictable punditry which reeks of i couldnt really give a feck, but here it is anyway
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on June 08, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
Quote from: Bensars on June 08, 2015, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 07, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Why bother showing so much highlights from games that were already shown live both Sunday and Saturday?
When there are other games - Kildare v Laois, Laois v Offaly, Westmeath v Wexford and all the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher finals that got no RTE live coverage?

Sunday game is usually precorded earlier, the SG analysts are in RTE during the games and can select clips etc for anlysis as its happening. These are packaged together and always first.

The games from out and about are then scanned for scores usually and packaged accordingly with a slice  of cliche and predictable punditry which reeks of i couldnt really give a feck, but here it is anyway
You'd have thought that one of the analysts could have been sent to Tullamore on Saturday evening. He could have made notes and had the relevant clips packaged together in the proceeding 24 hours so that a decent analysis was on show on Sunday evening.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on June 08, 2015, 01:52:01 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 07, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Why bother showing so much highlights from games that were already shown live both Sunday and Saturday?

When there are other games - Kildare v Laois, Laois v Offaly, Westmeath v Wexford and all the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher finals that got no RTE live coverage?

Three national finals on at Croke Park at the weekend and RTE/Sunday Game couldn't be arsed to give the lads a bit of air time. That is utterly pathetic.

Considering some of the points made on the Aogan O'Farrell thread, are RTE equipped to deliver the best promotion of the games as they seem intent on half-jobbing it through their weekly highlights show? Surely the GAA need to be stepping in here and setting some expectations/quality agreement to ensure RTE are railroaded out of their current bluff-fest mentality.

GAA getting a poor return on the rights packages gifted to RTE. I'd rather see them at other national broadcasters to be honest e.g. TG4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 08, 2015, 01:53:54 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 08, 2015, 01:52:01 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 07, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Why bother showing so much highlights from games that were already shown live both Sunday and Saturday?

When there are other games - Kildare v Laois, Laois v Offaly, Westmeath v Wexford and all the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher finals that got no RTE live coverage?

Three national finals on at Croke Park at the weekend and RTE/Sunday Game couldn't be arsed to give the lads a bit of air time. That is utterly pathetic.

Considering some of the points made on the Aogan O'Farrell thread, are RTE equipped to deliver the best promotion of the games as they seem intent on half-jobbing it through their weekly highlights show? Surely the GAA need to be stepping in here and setting some expectations/quality agreement to ensure RTE are railroaded out of their current bluff-fest mentality.

GAA getting a poor return on the rights packages gifted to RTE. I'd rather see them at other national broadcasters to be honest e.g. TG4.

It's another thing to bear in mind when we talk about 2 or 3 tier football championships. I didn't want to mention it last week because I didn't want to be disrespectful towards the efforts these teams are putting in, but if the level of appreciation/recognition for the Ring/Rackard/Meagher Cups were replicated in any corresponding football competition, I think it would be far from a positive for the counties involved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 08, 2015, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 08, 2015, 01:52:01 PM
Considering some of the points made on the Aogan O'Farrell thread, are RTE equipped to deliver the best promotion of the games as they seem intent on half-jobbing it through their weekly highlights show? Surely the GAA need to be stepping in here and setting some expectations/quality agreement to ensure RTE are railroaded out of their current bluff-fest mentality.


The GAA can propose a requirement for magazine coverage etc. But they seem basically interested in the bottom line.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Bearded One on June 08, 2015, 08:46:20 PM
This has probably been picked up already but I've just sat down to watch RTE coverage of yesterday's football. During Colm O'Rourke's pre match analysis he talked about Derry's Eoin Bradley being picked up by the rookie full back Rogers - who also plays for Derry. Unbelievable!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 08, 2015, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: The Bearded One on June 08, 2015, 08:46:20 PM
This has probably been picked up already but I've just sat down to watch RTE coverage of yesterday's football. During Colm O'Rourke's pre match analysis he talked about Derry's Eoin Bradley being picked up by the rookie full back Rogers - who also plays for Derry. Unbelievable!

+1. How do they keep their jobs. He was talking about "Brendan McKernan" as well! He still has the horrors from 91!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on June 08, 2015, 10:31:38 PM
Quote from: Bensars on June 08, 2015, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 07, 2015, 11:52:50 PM
Why bother showing so much highlights from games that were already shown live both Sunday and Saturday?
When there are other games - Kildare v Laois, Laois v Offaly, Westmeath v Wexford and all the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher finals that got no RTE live coverage?

Sunday game is usually precorded earlier, the SG analysts are in RTE during the games and can select clips etc for anlysis as its happening. These are packaged together and always first.



No it's not, the 'welcome tonight to the Sunday game' bit is pre recorded and that is it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on June 08, 2015, 10:31:49 PM
Michael Lyster rushed to intensive care http://t.co/WC7T4QiJrl
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
Tommy "Feckin" Carr, why RTE? Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 14, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
Tommy "Feckin" Carr, why RTE? Why?

It's just 'Tom' now I think you'll find Dinny!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 14, 2015, 04:45:42 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 14, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
Tommy "Feckin" Carr, why RTE? Why?

It's just 'Tom' now I think you'll find Dinny!!

At least it's not Martin (I've my Donegal or Mayo Jersey on) Carney!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 04:47:36 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 14, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
Tommy "Feckin" Carr, why RTE? Why?

It's just 'Tom' now I think you'll find Dinny!!

He'll always be Dick to me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
Hahahhahahah Spillane: What Galway are doing well is their moving the ball quick and fast using the boot.

A clip of them scoring their goal with just hand passes and no kicks is been shown at the same time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 14, 2015, 04:53:03 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
Hahahhahahah Spillane: What Galway are doing well is their moving the ball quick and fast using the boot.

A clip of them scoring their goal with just hand passes and no kicks is been shown at the same time.

He's right though. Comer unstoppable in the air.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 04:57:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2015, 04:53:03 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
Hahahhahahah Spillane: What Galway are doing well is their moving the ball quick and fast using the boot.

A clip of them scoring their goal with just hand passes and no kicks is been shown at the same time.

He's right though. Comer unstoppable in the air.

If all you did was kick the long it would be easy to deal with, you have to mix things up. Pat doesn't understand these things.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on June 14, 2015, 05:38:21 PM
Brolly can't help himself.
Saying Galway's heads are in surfing and Trad sessions and not football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on June 14, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
"I make the definite prediction that if Galway are to get into this game now, they need a goal.."..a bold prediction there Tom with Galway 5 pts downin 69th minute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 05:51:44 PM
Spillane advocating the blanket defence now that Kerry are doing it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 14, 2015, 05:54:40 PM
Brolly almost over the desk there pointing out Mayo's weaknesses.

I'd say Daragh Moloney got a great insight into what it would be like to be cross-examined by Joe there.

Annoying and childish as it is when Brolly and Spillane are spatting at each other, tis a scary sight to see them working in tandem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Yea, Mayo concede 10 scores and their defence is awful  ::) Galway's attack is terrible, not enough scores from play. Spillane and Brolly the numpties see no co-relation. Why do RTE persist with these clowns?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 14, 2015, 06:42:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Yea, Mayo concede 10 scores and their defence is awful  ::) Galway's attack is terrible, not enough scores from play. Spillane and Brolly the numpties see no co-relation. Why do RTE persist with these clowns?

In fairness they are analysing Mayo at a level that can go on to win an AI. So they are going to get criticised at a higher level.

The criticism of not hockeying Galway was a bit disrespectful to Galways effort. Donegal didn't exactly burst a gut in the second half v Armagh is different of course. They just kept them at arms length.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 14, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Yea, Mayo concede 10 scores and their defence is awful  ::) Galway's attack is terrible, not enough scores from play. Spillane and Brolly the numpties see no co-relation. Why do RTE persist with these clowns?

They are against blanket defences and sweepers, except for Mayo - who are innocent for not doing it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 14, 2015, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 14, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Yea, Mayo concede 10 scores and their defence is awful  ::) Galway's attack is terrible, not enough scores from play. Spillane and Brolly the numpties see no co-relation. Why do RTE persist with these clowns?

They are against blanket defences and sweepers, except for Mayo - who are innocent for not doing it.

The Irony is that Mayo could get to an AI final without meeting a (real) Blanket defence (But would meet one there and get slaughtered again).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 14, 2015, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2015, 06:55:40 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 14, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 14, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
Yea, Mayo concede 10 scores and their defence is awful  ::) Galway's attack is terrible, not enough scores from play. Spillane and Brolly the numpties see no co-relation. Why do RTE persist with these clowns?

They are against blanket defences and sweepers, except for Mayo - who are innocent for not doing it.

The Irony is that Mayo could get to an AI final without meeting a (real) Blanket defence (But would meet one there and get slaughtered again).

Our's seemed pretty real last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on June 14, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
Early doesn't know.............

who mayo or galway are

work out percentages evenly

what a graphic actually is
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 14, 2015, 09:56:38 PM
Early made a show of himself. Also, Aidan O'Shea likes a dive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on June 14, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 14, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
Early doesn't know.............

who mayo or galway are

work out percentages evenly

what a graphic actually is
Galway missed Shane Walsh up in defence supposedly...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on June 14, 2015, 10:00:14 PM
Early must be hungover or something. He also mistakenly said Shane Walsh was a back. The next time he is on I'll be more prepared and start a drinking game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2015, 10:16:21 PM
Thats a shocking goal Galway give away!! only seen it now!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 14, 2015, 10:57:02 PM
Anyone got Ger Cannings email address so that they can explain to hi the square ball rule in for the past 2 or so years.

He is some gimp!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2015, 11:17:09 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on June 14, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
"I make the definite prediction that if Galway are to get into this game now, they need a goal.."..a bold prediction there Tom with Galway 5 pts downin 69th minute.

Say it ain't so... Jesus  :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 14, 2015, 11:43:03 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 14, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
Early doesn't know.............

who mayo or galway are

work out percentages evenly

what a graphic actually is

;D ;D

Imagine him leading you in battle. Brigadier Earley. To think he got lost coming out of the croke park dressing rooms too
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 15, 2015, 05:34:36 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2015, 11:17:09 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on June 14, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
"I make the definite prediction that if Galway are to get into this game now, they need a goal.."..a bold prediction there Tom with Galway 5 pts downin 69th minute.

Say it ain't so... Jesus  :-[

He definitely said that.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 15, 2015, 08:25:41 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 14, 2015, 11:43:03 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on June 14, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
Early doesn't know.............

who mayo or galway are

work out percentages evenly

what a graphic actually is

;D ;D

Imagine him leading you in battle. Brigadier Earley. To think he got lost coming out of the croke park dressing rooms too

That was the Uncle!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 15, 2015, 08:45:44 AM
Just after Galway  scored to make it 5 points each,
Marty (in tune with higher powers) excitedly exclaimed about Galway's resurgence,
"Can you feel the vibe around Pearse Stadium?"

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 15, 2015, 09:03:21 AM
Yeah, Dermot Earley was all over the shop.
He also thought John 'Helsin' scored Westmeath's goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cavan4sam on June 15, 2015, 11:30:31 AM
Earley was a bit all over the place last night alright.

But in fairness to O'Sé and Whelan I thought they were quite good last night. Analyse the games for what they were and didn't just have -conceived ideas about what way teams play.

Open to being told differently here as I was watching thru extremely hungover eyes!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 15, 2015, 12:14:57 PM
What games are on TV next weekend?? Double hurling on rte on Sunday I presume?? And the Monaghan v Fermanagh on BBC? Will Sligo v Ross be shown live?

Are the 12am throw-in times (taken from rte.ie) correct??

20 Jun 2015 12am    Laois    v    Antrim    O'Moore Park
20 Jun 2015 2pm    London    v    Cavan    Ruislip, London
20 Jun 2015 2pm    Waterford    v    Offaly    Fraher Field
20 Jun 2015 7pm    Longford    v    Carlow    Pearse Park, Longford

20 Jun 2015 12am    Laois    v    Galway    O'Connor Park
20 Jun 2015 7pm    Sligo    v    Roscommon    Markievicz Park
21 Jun 2015 2pm    Kilkenny    v    Wexford    Nowlan Park
21 Jun 2015 4pm    Limerick    v    Tipperary    Gaelic Grounds, Limerick
21 Jun 2015 4pm    Monaghan    v    Fermanagh    Breffni Park
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 12:19:47 PM
It's Kilkenny/Wexford and Tipp/Limerick live on RTE anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 15, 2015, 12:35:55 PM
Sligo/Ros and Laois/Galway on Sky
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on June 15, 2015, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 15, 2015, 12:14:57 PM
What games are on TV next weekend?? Double hurling on rte on Sunday I presume?? And the Monaghan v Fermanagh on BBC? Will Sligo v Ross be shown live?

Are the 12am throw-in times (taken from rte.ie) correct??

20 Jun 2015 12am    Laois    v    Antrim    O'Moore Park
20 Jun 2015 2pm    London    v    Cavan    Ruislip, London
20 Jun 2015 2pm    Waterford    v    Offaly    Fraher Field
20 Jun 2015 7pm    Longford    v    Carlow    Pearse Park, Longford

20 Jun 2015 12am    Laois    v    Galway    O'Connor Park
20 Jun 2015 7pm    Sligo    v    Roscommon    Markievicz Park
21 Jun 2015 2pm    Kilkenny    v    Wexford    Nowlan Park
21 Jun 2015 4pm    Limerick    v    Tipperary    Gaelic Grounds, Limerick
21 Jun 2015 4pm    Monaghan    v    Fermanagh    Breffni Park

12am??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
The witching hour for Laois and Antrim. I presume they mean 12 noon. Actually I bet they put in 00:00 as the time because they are trying to figure out how they can get Laois supporters from Portlaoise to Tullamore for the hurlers.

So it probably is 12am but they really meant TBC.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 15, 2015, 03:25:15 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 15, 2015, 12:35:55 PM
Sligo/Ros and Laois/Galway on Sky

Can't wait to see how the British viewers react to the bus on Twitter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 15, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 15, 2015, 05:34:36 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2015, 11:17:09 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on June 14, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
"I make the definite prediction that if Galway are to get into this game now, they need a goal.."..a bold prediction there Tom with Galway 5 pts downin 69th minute.

Say it ain't so... Jesus  :-[

He definitely said that.  ;D

I know. I thought I had misread the clock when I heard it. Bad and all as TC is he said Galway had to take Hanley off AOS after 38 mins. KW never budged.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 15, 2015, 03:59:40 PM
On Early saw this on Twitter

UnOfficialGaa ‏@unofficialgaa  18h18 hours ago
The Tomás Ó Sé "I think you are talking shite" Look #GAA #SundayGame

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHfaO9oWsAAFcFw.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 16, 2015, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.

That was also my feeling listening to the games last Sunday. Tough to listen to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.

Pretty sure that was Mayo. The team that won the AI at a canter no less..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Put Up That Flag on June 16, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.

Pretty sure that was Mayo. The team that won the AI at a canter no less..

Haha, Syferus getting a bit annoyed for someone not giving his beloved Mayo enough credit.  When are you going to admit to actually supporting Mayo instead of this pretence that you follow Roscommon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on June 16, 2015, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: Put Up That Flag on June 16, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.

Pretty sure that was Mayo. The team that won the AI at a canter no less..

Haha, Syferus getting a bit annoyed for someone not giving his beloved Mayo enough credit.  When are you going to admit to actually supporting Mayo instead of this pretence that you follow Roscommon.

I think Croi was more likely referring to some talented players not playing for Carr. The best of those players was playing centre forward against Wexford on Sunday, so it hasn't affected his development. Don't think that minor team would have done better under anyone else, but don't read that as an endorsement for Carr. His track record is much more miss than hit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 16, 2015, 04:38:49 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 16, 2015, 02:35:26 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.

That was also my feeling listening to the games last Sunday. Tough to listen to.

Worse co-commentator ever, Tommy Carr belongs with the neanderthals at the Nights Watch .......................... Id take McStay any day over him or Carney
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 17, 2015, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: shark on June 16, 2015, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: Put Up That Flag on June 16, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2015, 03:53:32 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 16, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 14, 2015, 11:02:30 PM
Tommy Carr would make you depressed listening to him.

Which is one of many reasons why no one wanted to play for him. Destroyed a very promising underage team in Westmeath.

Pretty sure that was Mayo. The team that won the AI at a canter no less..

Haha, Syferus getting a bit annoyed for someone not giving his beloved Mayo enough credit.  When are you going to admit to actually supporting Mayo instead of this pretence that you follow Roscommon.

I think Croi was more likely referring to some talented players not playing for Carr. The best of those players was playing centre forward against Wexford on Sunday, so it hasn't affected his development. Don't think that minor team would have done better under anyone else, but don't read that as an endorsement for Carr. His track record is much more miss than hit.

Really? Got their arses handed to them against Kildare in the Leinster Final and against Mayo in the quarters. Won all around them at U16 level and if the management that had moved through the ranks with them hadn't been booted out they would have been a more solid unit. Not to mention the players who walked away/concentrated on hurling in disgust at the removal of management.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on June 21, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
Does anyone know who was that northern girl on TSG hosting the camogie coverage.
Where is she from?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 21, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
There is a team in the Middle East that is as good as several county teams here!

Pat Spillane
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: babarino on June 21, 2015, 10:59:35 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on June 21, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
Does anyone know who was that northern girl on TSG hosting the camogie coverage.
Where is she from?

Fionnuala Carr - Clonduff
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 21, 2015, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
There is a team in the Middle East that is as good as several county teams here!

Pat Spillane

Was just posting this exact quote. He's some clown.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 21, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 21, 2015, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
There is a team in the Middle East that is as good as several county teams here!

Pat Spillane

Was just posting this exact quote. He's some clown.

He probably meant Castleisland.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on June 21, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 21, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 21, 2015, 11:03:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 21, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
There is a team in the Middle East that is as good as several county teams here!

Pat Spillane

Was just posting this exact quote. He's some clown.

He probably meant Castleisland.
;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
Pat Spillanes analysis yesterday. Same ol pause and highlight number in defence. Yawn. Also paused and showed Monaghan's "blanket". Think it was four players in half back line. At worst three half backs and one midfielder. Hardly a blanket. This blinkered analysis is done. Absolutely no place in a modern broadcast.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on June 22, 2015, 11:22:41 AM
QuotePat Spillanes analysis yesterday. Same ol pause and highlight number in defence. Yawn. Also paused and showed Monaghan's "blanket". Think it was four players in half back line. At worst three half backs and one midfielder. Hardly a blanket. This blinkered analysis is done. Absolutely no place in a modern broadcast.

Did Pet come up with 2 tings this week or 3 tings.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 22, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 22, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
Pat Spillanes analysis yesterday. Same ol pause and highlight number in defence. Yawn. Also paused and showed Monaghan's "blanket". Think it was four players in half back line. At worst three half backs and one midfielder. Hardly a blanket. This blinkered analysis is done. Absolutely no place in a modern broadcast.

Saw a story that Jack O'Connor that is to be confirmed as Kerry U21 manager tonight.

That's the same job Pat was trying to convince folk he was interested in a few months back.

I'd say he knew full well that the plan was always that Jack was going to move up with the minors and there wasn't a chance in hell he'd be considered for the job, so he could safely continue on picking up his wads of taxpayers money to waffle nonsense on the Sunday Game.

Watched the game on Sky on Saturday night and the analysis was decent - it wasn't mind-blowing stuff, just competent and professional. However compared to what the Sunday Game have been serving up on the football front of late it felt like a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on June 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 22, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
Pat Spillanes analysis yesterday. Same ol pause and highlight number in defence. Yawn. Also paused and showed Monaghan's "blanket". Think it was four players in half back line. At worst three half backs and one midfielder. Hardly a blanket. This blinkered analysis is done. Absolutely no place in a modern broadcast.
Yeah and the number of forwards that scored on each team. Is it just me or does anyone else think that defenders scoring is also a good thing.

As much as I think McStay is ok in the studio, his defence of Curran last night was pitiful. It was Curran's first time on TSG so he was nervous, McStay reckoned. If he was nervous he would have mixed up his words or maybe wouldn't have been clear when making his point. Saying that London had no place in the Connaucht Championship doesn't sound like nerves to me. I see he wants Evans out now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 22, 2015, 11:37:34 AM
Quote from: highorlow on June 22, 2015, 11:22:41 AM
QuotePat Spillanes analysis yesterday. Same ol pause and highlight number in defence. Yawn. Also paused and showed Monaghan's "blanket". Think it was four players in half back line. At worst three half backs and one midfielder. Hardly a blanket. This blinkered analysis is done. Absolutely no place in a modern broadcast.

Did Pet come up wit 2 tings dis week or tree tings.


Fixed that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 22, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on June 22, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 22, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
Pat Spillanes analysis yesterday. Same ol pause and highlight number in defence. Yawn. Also paused and showed Monaghan's "blanket". Think it was four players in half back line. At worst three half backs and one midfielder. Hardly a blanket. This blinkered analysis is done. Absolutely no place in a modern broadcast.
Yeah and the number of forwards that scored on each team. Is it just me or does anyone else think that defenders scoring is also a good thing.

As much as I think McStay is ok in the studio, his defence of Curran last night was pitiful. It was Curran's first time on TSG so he was nervous, McStay reckoned. If he was nervous he would have mixed up his words or maybe wouldn't have been clear when making his point. Saying that London had no place in the Connaucht Championship doesn't sound like nerves to me. I see he wants Evans out now.

Cake is out to make a name for himself.
He knew exactly what he was saying, and if he's given the opportunity again, he'll say worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 22, 2015, 11:44:23 AM
Cake could say anything. I don't think he knows what he's going to say until he hears what comes out.

"Foot to the floor and brain in neutral", as somebody said about somebody else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Clinker on June 22, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
Always reminded of this post.

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 12, 2013, 12:54:04 PM

When,for example,a lunatic of a goalkeeper were to run from his goal and whisper in your ear after his team scores the winning goal, 'f**k off back to the black north now ye Orange b**tard,' that is wrong but the umpires won't see or hear anything wrong until such times as the said fictitious goalie takes a huge fall as if he's been shot and the umpires or linesmen will see that and maybe even the lash of an elbow in retaliation to the comment.  In this made-up and completely non-factual scenario the ref can only send off the young player who has retaliated and not the experienced former county goalkeeper who has taken a dive.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mylestheslasher on June 22, 2015, 01:03:23 PM
Sunday game analysis of Cavan v London was to re-open the rantings of a fool like Cake Curran. Now Cavan scored 2-22, not bad for the puke football team with no attacking strategy and everyone in defense. Maybe commenting on that score line would actually make smoke come out of Spillanes ears as he would not be able to compute the reality with his pre-conceived and ill informed ideas of Cavan. But it is not just Cavan, the Sunday game analysts don't have a clue about 75% of the teams. For example, if you have Brolly and Spillane sitting in Thurles even though the game they are supposed to be analysing is in say Clones, how can they really comment on defensive strategies? Sure they can't see it properly if they are not there. Already Sky's analysis is miles ahead of RTE. What does that say about RTE given the dominance they have had for decades? It says they are old, tired and lazy in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bamboo on June 22, 2015, 01:47:26 PM
Looks like RTE have blocked watching the live player via Hola. Any other 'free' options for those of us abroad?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2015, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: bamboo on June 22, 2015, 01:47:26 PM
Looks like RTE have blocked watching the live player via Hola. Any other 'free' options for those of us abroad?

GAA go is well worth the price. If they could only end those annoying adverts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on June 22, 2015, 02:01:14 PM
Jaysus lads, you'll get the entire season, including league, on GAA Go for about the price of one good night out!

Well worth it.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 22, 2015, 02:38:43 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2015, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: bamboo on June 22, 2015, 01:47:26 PM
Looks like RTE have blocked watching the live player via Hola. Any other 'free' options for those of us abroad?

GAA go is well worth the price. If they could only end those annoying adverts.

Is that Qatar ladies team the team Pat Spillane was on about? By the way - I agree, GAAgo is well worth it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 22, 2015, 02:38:43 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 22, 2015, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: bamboo on June 22, 2015, 01:47:26 PM
Looks like RTE have blocked watching the live player via Hola. Any other 'free' options for those of us abroad?

GAA go is well worth the price. If they could only end those annoying adverts.

Is that Qatar ladies team the team Pat Spillane was on about? By the way - I agree, GAAgo is well worth it.

That one is not the worst advert.
There are about three, that are constantly played during the half time and between games, even my kids are complaining.
Marty Morrisey jumping up in the background behind some fella watching it on a beach
Every time it comes on, I hope he will turn around and hit him a box
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 01:36:08 PM
It's taken 3 minutes to switch off the live coverage. Brollys analysis is more negative than any of the football played.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2015, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 01:36:08 PM
It's taken 3 minutes to switch off the live coverage. Brollys analysis is more negative than any of the football played.
Tommy Carr. Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 28, 2015, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2015, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 01:36:08 PM
It's taken 3 minutes to switch off the live coverage. Brollys analysis is more negative than any of the football played.
Tommy Carr. Why?


+1
the dream team today.
ger canning talking utter garbage
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 02:34:17 PM
Hot Knife through Butter!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2015, 02:38:54 PM
Tommy's a great man for pointing out what teams are doing wrong...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 02:42:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2015, 02:38:54 PM
Tommy's a great man for pointing out what teams are doing wrong...

Has had plenty experience from looking at the teams he has managed.  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 28, 2015, 02:46:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 02:34:17 PM
Hot Knife through Butter!

whooof
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Of the games covered by RTE, how many have not been chicken shoots?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 28, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
Tommy Carr cannot shut up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 28, 2015, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 28, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
Tommy Carr cannot shut up.
Living in Mullingar.
Don't understand why RTE have home doing games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 28, 2015, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Of the games covered by RTE, how many have not been chicken shoots?

Not this one anyway!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2015, 04:55:08 PM
Joe and Berno walk into a niteclub..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on June 28, 2015, 04:58:23 PM
great analysis from Spillane.Tells us how good Cluxtons kick outs are and yet I have counted at least 4 bad ones already.Why do I bother?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Des calling Tomás Ó Sé Donal Og Cusack when introducing. Wtf!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2015, 09:40:49 PM
In-joke?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on June 28, 2015, 09:42:47 PM

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/gaa/9897052/the-role-of-the-inter-county-manager

At what point will RTE try to offer insight anywhere approaching something like this to viewers ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Des calling Tomás Ó Sé Donal Og Cusack when introducing. Wtf!

He's dressed like him anyway!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Des calling Tomás Ó Sé Donal Og Cusack when introducing. Wtf!

He's dressed like him anyway!

Maybe he's taken up playing snooker?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Des calling Tomás Ó Sé Donal Og Cusack when introducing. Wtf!

He's dressed like him anyway!

I've just switched it on. Did he explain the dickie bow?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 28, 2015, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Des calling Tomás Ó Sé Donal Og Cusack when introducing. Wtf!

He's dressed like him anyway!

I've just switched it on. Did he explain the dickie bow?

Don't get the waistcoats myself. Are they in fashion again?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: CD on June 28, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
Des is the best dressed among them. O'se is a state again and the other two are in their confirmation gear. What the feck is going on!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shrewdness on June 28, 2015, 10:25:53 PM
Tomas O'Se must be on his way to another function dressed like that. Complete overkill.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 28, 2015, 10:32:57 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on June 28, 2015, 10:25:53 PM
Tomas O'Se must be on his way to another function dressed like that. Complete overkill.

Sneaky little one there, the way he threw in  "since Armagh won that one All-Ireland" ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on June 28, 2015, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2015, 10:22:44 PM
Quote from: CD on June 28, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
Des is the best dressed among them. O'se is a state again and the other two are in their confirmation gear. What the feck is going on!!!
They don't dress themselves. Some eejit in RTE tells them what they're wearing.

Doubt it, you usually see them on Twitter thanking some local tailor for suiting and booting them
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 10:39:08 PM
Small teams stop feeling sorry for yourselves? So Leitrims lack of success is down to that? Jaysus, that's a daft comment from a pundit I enjoy listening to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 28, 2015, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 28, 2015, 09:39:29 PM
Des calling Tomás Ó Sé Donal Og Cusack when introducing. Wtf!

He's dressed like him anyway!

I've just switched it on. Did he explain the dickie bow?

Don't get the waistcoats myself. Are they in fashion again?
I don't get the Dickie Bow? In fact i don't get it why they are not wearing Polo shirts and looking casual. There must be a dress code from RTE for this?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 10:41:27 PM
Did Tomas lose a bet or something?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 28, 2015, 10:50:01 PM
Is McHugh having a stroke or is he pissed or something?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 28, 2015, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 10:39:08 PM
Small teams stop feeling sorry for yourselves? So Leitrims lack of success is down to that? Jaysus, that's a daft comment from a pundit I enjoy listening to.

Such muck! Jez, you'd swear the Leitrim players were moaning after the game. Feck, criticising a county as small as Leitrim for not getting sponsorship and comparing them to Donegal lads (who don't work) getting up at 6am to do training.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 10:54:01 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 28, 2015, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 28, 2015, 10:22:44 PM
Quote from: CD on June 28, 2015, 10:20:27 PM
Des is the best dressed among them. O'se is a state again and the other two are in their confirmation gear. What the feck is going on!!!
They don't dress themselves. Some eejit in RTE tells them what they're wearing.

Doubt it, you usually see them on Twitter thanking some local tailor for suiting and booting them

These guys are responsible https://mobile.twitter.com/scribeoflondon
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 28, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
McHughs analysis is patronising. Small counties stop feeling sorry for yourselves and patting yourselves on the back? Such nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Over the Bar on June 28, 2015, 11:00:57 PM
Just watched Down getting their arses handed to them by a hurling county.  Jaysus, Down are drivel at the minute.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 28, 2015, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 28, 2015, 11:00:57 PM
Just watched Down getting their arses handed to them by a hurling county.  Jaysus, Down are drivel at the minute.

McCorry talking about getting ready for next years league straight after a championship defeat to a division 4 team was bizarre.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 28, 2015, 11:06:29 PM
Martin McHugh - what the fcuk are you on about?? That story about Banty, the fella in the pub and the Kerry women???

Edit: Now he's blaming the end of the troubles for why the six counties aren't in the Ulster Final??  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 28, 2015, 11:06:51 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 28, 2015, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 28, 2015, 11:00:57 PM
Just watched Down getting their arses handed to them by a hurling county.  Jaysus, Down are drivel at the minute.

McCorry talking about getting ready for next years league straight after a championship defeat to a division 4 team was bizarre.

Shades of Comical Ali there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 28, 2015, 11:11:32 PM
Will some of ye lads go watch expose or something? Who cares what they're wearing, it's what one of them is saying that you should be worried about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on June 28, 2015, 11:18:40 PM
McHugh's some boy. Takin Mon up (oldest trick in the book) and then chattin about lads leavin county panels. Does he not remember last year when his fella left and they went on to feature in the AIF..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: never kickt a ball on June 28, 2015, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on June 28, 2015, 11:18:40 PM
McHugh's some boy. Takin Mon up (oldest trick in the book) and then chattin about lads leavin county panels. Does he not remember last year when his fella left and they went on to feature in the AIF..

And talking up Cavan Donegal and Monaghan at minor and U21. Conveniently forgetting Tyrone are All Ireland U21 champions
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: never kickt a ball on June 28, 2015, 11:31:35 PM
The comment about the Kerry women was cringeworthy and sexist too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 28, 2015, 11:42:13 PM
Actually, we were decent enough during the troubles too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on June 28, 2015, 11:44:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 28, 2015, 11:04:57 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 28, 2015, 11:00:57 PM
Just watched Down getting their arses handed to them by a hurling county.  Jaysus, Down are drivel at the minute.

McCorry talking about getting ready for next years league straight after a championship defeat to a division 4 team was bizarre.

We are a complete mess :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

I thought that's what he said!

McHug's drink must've been spiked tonight. He's not usually this mad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 29, 2015, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

I thought that's what he said!

McHug's drink must've been spiked tonight. He's not usually this mad.

He's cute as a fox. He has seen how being a bit off the wall has heightened Brollys profile and he wants a bit of that Cake.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 29, 2015, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 29, 2015, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

I thought that's what he said!

McHug's drink must've been spiked tonight. He's not usually this mad.

He's cute as a fox. He has seen how being a bit off the wall has heightened Brollys profile and he wants a bit of that Cake.

Brolly is a bit off the wall but when he wants to he does actually talk a lot of sense. McHugh on the other hand talks so fast and goes off on tangents. Likes to show off his knowledge and is top of the pundits when it comes to shite talking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 29, 2015, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

Mad enough stuff alright.

To be fair, Tyrone's successes were off the back of the dissidents.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 29, 2015, 12:41:36 AM
Speaking of Brolly, did you see him pat Pat and tell him to houl on during the live coverage? Them boys with the flag in clones were right.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: never kickt a ball on June 29, 2015, 01:00:09 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 29, 2015, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

Mad enough stuff alright.

To be fair, Tyrone's successes were off the back of the dissidents.

It would take a nuclear war to see Fermanagh and Antrim at the top.............
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on June 29, 2015, 03:05:28 AM
The live coverage with Brolly and Spillane before the Meath game started like the announcement of a death in your family. So downbeat and depressing the first ten minutes without talking about the games themselves.

Spillane has gone so far beyond contributing anything worthwhile to the show. I honestly don't know how he or half of those pundits are still receiving a salary from RTE. Pat has amazingly somehow combined the talents of a broken record and an empty vessel to create his own unique blend of shite talking.

Brolly at least gets around to analysing the game while making some good points occasionally.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StephenC on June 29, 2015, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

I thought that's what he said!

McHug's drink must've been spiked tonight. He's not usually this mad.

I beg to differ. He's a poor pundit IMO and while I didn't see the SG, it sounds like he's put his foot in his mouth again. He's rightly a legend in Donegal but punditry isn't his thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 29, 2015, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: StephenC on June 29, 2015, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

I thought that's what he said!

McHug's drink must've been spiked tonight. He's not usually this mad.

I beg to differ. He's a poor pundit IMO and while I didn't see the SG, it sounds like he's put his foot in his mouth again. He's rightly a legend in Donegal but punditry isn't his thing.
His writing in the papers is complete rubbish as well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 29, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/michael-lyster-i-was-lucky-i-wasnt-found-dead-in-my-hallway-the-next-day-31337658.html
Good to hear Michael Lyster on the radio this morning, he expects to be back within the month of July.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on June 30, 2015, 01:51:14 AM
Watching the sky aalysis of how important a  manager is to a team is  light years ahead of what Spillane and Brolly  bring to the RTE coverage.I know I will not be making the mistake of watching them two fools again
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 30, 2015, 04:12:59 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 29, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/michael-lyster-i-was-lucky-i-wasnt-found-dead-in-my-hallway-the-next-day-31337658.html
Good to hear Michael Lyster on the radio this morning, he expects to be back within the month of July.

He's a lucky man, fair play to his wife.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 30, 2015, 09:25:35 AM
Quote from: maigheo on June 30, 2015, 01:51:14 AM
Watching the sky aalysis of how important a  manager is to a team is  light years ahead of what Spillane and Brolly  bring to the RTE coverage.I know I will not be making the mistake of watching them two fools again
I never listen when those 2 are on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 10:53:02 AM
Whelan anyone, hes not bad but hes not going to get a fair crack of the whip with the country brethren...................I like Tomas OSe but the smugness is creeping in very steadily
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2015, 11:17:23 AM
Tomás is starting to annoy me now to be honest.
He's opted for the archetypal Kerry man schtick with a Brolly-esque slouch thrown in for good measure.
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
Plus he's dressing like an utter gimp every week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 30, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
RTE should be asking themselves why are sky so far ahead of them in only 1 season.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 30, 2015, 01:43:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 30, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
RTE should be asking themselves why are sky so far ahead of them in only 1 season.

I'd imagine that RTE will be trotting out stuff about the huge numbers that watch GAA on RTE and thinking this means they are doing a decent job.

However when you look at the numbers TG4 get for their GAA coverage (despite not having any rights for the championship which is the primary competition) and despite it being in a language only a tiny number in the country actually use, it really doesn't paint the numbers watching on RTE in such a glowing light, especially when you have to actually go out and make a choice and pay money to watch championship on the other channel.

The GAA sports department seem to have the notion that people watch GAA on RTE because of them, when for a serious number it's a case of putting up with them in order to see GAA action.

Sooner the GAA have their own television station the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 30, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2015, 11:17:23 AM
Tomás is starting to annoy me now to be honest.
He's opted for the archetypal Kerry man schtick with a Brolly-esque slouch thrown in for good measure.
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
Plus he's dressing like an utter gimp every week.

If you are looking for cliche city, he is your man. In my mind, a great footballer, but hopeless as a pundit and worse as a guest writer or what ever you call him. I just zone out when he talks.
The apparent smugness is also bothering me.
The overall quality of the show and presenters is poor. The comment on Sky and how they run their show is very accurate. Way ahead of The sunday game. It would be great if they could do a similar show on a sunday evening.

For post match analysis, McStay (who sometime can be crap as a commentator) and Whealan are miles ahead of the rest.
McHugh used to annoy the sh*t out of me, but his recent appearances have been decent. I did not see this sunday yet. But he did make a lot of sense regarding provincial honchos having a complete grip on GAA or something to that effect a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Pub Bore on June 30, 2015, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 30, 2015, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2015, 11:17:23 AM
Tomás is starting to annoy me now to be honest.
He's opted for the archetypal Kerry man schtick with a Brolly-esque slouch thrown in for good measure.
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
Plus he's dressing like an utter gimp every week.

If you are looking for cliche city, he is your man. In my mind, a great footballer, but hopeless as a pundit and worse as a guest writer or what ever you call him. I just zone out when he talks.
The apparent smugness is also bothering me.
The overall quality of the show and presenters is poor. The comment on Sky and how they run their show is very accurate. Way ahead of The sunday game. It would be great if they could do a similar show on a sunday evening.

For post match analysis, McStay (who sometime can be crap as a commentator) and Whealan are miles ahead of the rest.
McHugh used to annoy the sh*t out of me, but his recent appearances have been decent. I did not see this sunday yet. But he did make a lot of sense regarding provincial honchos having a complete grip on GAA or something to that effect a few weeks ago.

Quick summary:  He didn't really finish a sentence, made a joke about Kerry women/Monaghan men that was embarrassing, told the weaker counties buck themselves up a bit to get closer to the big counties and then came out with the most bizarre piece of "analysis" I've ever heard linking the end of the Troubles to the poor performance of the six counties in the championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dangleberrys on June 30, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 29, 2015, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: StephenC on June 29, 2015, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 28, 2015, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on June 28, 2015, 11:40:44 PM
And apparently the 6 Northern counties need the troubles back to be successful again!

I thought that's what he said!

McHug's drink must've been spiked tonight. He's not usually this mad.

I beg to differ. He's a poor pundit IMO and while I didn't see the SG, it sounds like he's put his foot in his mouth again. He's rightly a legend in Donegal but punditry isn't his thing.
His writing in the papers is complete rubbish as well
I've no idea how McHugh gets all the gigs he's managed but fair play to him, or more-so his PR team.
Once I see his lips move I presume he's talking about some other sport altogether, he really doesn't have a clue. 
He is clinging to the 'Brolly' cliche of been controversial for the sake of it(also been embarrassingly tried by O'Hara/Cake/etc).

Tomas is suffering from what all new pundits suffer from - after 1 or 2 shows, all has been said. Everything else is a cliche.  But he's in a small group of football pundits over the past few decades - as in he was a defender.  These positions are usually held for Midfield/Forward 'heroes', so I'll give him some more time for this.

But, when these guys enter the environs of the RTE studio, its either Funeral/Formal/Fancy Dress attire, which dictates the stuffiness/stiffness of the current program.
There is no space for banter or real personality, it looks and feels like every minute is scripted.  Its almost frowned upon to smile or laugh or joke - old school programming at its best.
So, brighten up the studio, lose the feckin suits, throw in a few couches, add a few touch screens, have at least one new face on the screen every few weeks for variety and away  you go....

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2015, 03:19:59 PM
If anything there's too much joking going on..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 30, 2015, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: Dangleberrys on June 30, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
Tomas is suffering from what all new pundits suffer from - after 1 or 2 shows, all has been said. Everything else is a cliche.  But he's in a small group of football pundits over the past few decades - as in he was a defender.  These positions are usually held for Midfield/Forward 'heroes', so I'll give him some more time for this.

Hadn't thought about that on the new pundits thing.

Interesting point about him being a defender - figures crossed he could do more to highlight good defending.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
In fairness to KMcStay hes very good to be fair, he has every detail of the game covered .................... him Whelan and ORourke would make a nice panel, Id love to see David Brady get at least one gig, Id imagine he'd be good as a roving reporter for rte ala  wooly for newstalk, just keep pitch side for the whooping and schelping 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oakleaflad on June 30, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
There was feck all wrong with Anthony Tohill. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
In fairness to KMcStay hes very good to be fair, he has every detail of the game covered .................... him Whelan and ORourke would make a nice panel, Id love to see David Brady get at least one gig, Id imagine he'd be good as a roving reporter for rte ala  wooly for newstalk, just keep pitch side for the whooping and schelping

I have to say I think Newstalk's GAA coverage is miles ahead of RTE Radio and it's  even better than when Second Captains use to run it, Molloy and Gilroy just let the analysts get on with it. Great interview with Tom Cribben last night and top analysis from Wooly (knows more than his Jack the lad persona sometimes lets on) and James Horan. Horan actually claimed Dublin are playing football at a level that no team has ever played at but unlike Parkinson thinks they might be caught at AI semi stage. It was just positive stuff miles away from Brolly et al.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 30, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
In fairness to KMcStay hes very good to be fair, he has every detail of the game covered .................... him Whelan and ORourke would make a nice panel, Id love to see David Brady get at least one gig, Id imagine he'd be good as a roving reporter for rte ala  wooly for newstalk, just keep pitch side for the whooping and schelping

I have to say I think Newstalk's GAA coverage is miles ahead of RTE Radio and it's  even better than when Second Captains use to run it, Molloy and Gilroy just let the analysts get on with it. Great interview with Tom Cribben last night and top analysis from Wooly (knows more than his Jack the lad persona sometimes lets on) and James Horan. Horan actually claimed Dublin are playing football at a level that no team has ever played at but unlike Parkinson thinks they might be caught at AI semi stage. It was just positive stuff miles away from Brolly et al.

I agree with that, Dinny. I heard that show last night and when I thought about it I realised it's the first bit of media football talk I've listened to for years. I don't listen at all to the TV punditry on RTE. But if that's bad, the shite on the radio is even worse. Brian Carty and players from the teams playing this week "I-supposing" each other for half an hour and talking in utter banalities. Or worse, Marty Morrissey. I'm totally serious when I say I get far better football conversation in my local. And some of them are rugby heads. And they're all from Cork!

But the talk last night was utterly absorbing and informative. I was surprised Woolly made sense. Who knew? But Horan was very interesting and knowledgeable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 30, 2015, 04:57:28 PM
As Clough said about Roy Keane, Woolie is 'more deceptive than he looks'. Newstalks chat is just miles ahead. It's positive and you sense they actually like the game.

The RTE boys act like they are on a permanent pilgrimage to Lough Derg.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 30, 2015, 05:15:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 30, 2015, 04:57:28 PM
As Clough said about Roy Keane, Woolie is 'more deceptive than he looks'. Newstalks chat is just miles ahead. It's positive and you sense they actually like the game.

The RTE boys act like they are on a permanent pilgrimage to Lough Derg.

In fairness who couldn't love watching Brolly stropping around the place like Kevin the Teenager from Harry Enfield and Spillane coming out with guff that a Healy-Rae would be embarrassed by.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
I like Woolly, he knows his stuff but doesn't take himself at all seriously.
Not mad about Gilroy, I think Joe Molloy is much easier to listen to.
They have a good laugh without going OTT on 'the banter' as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 30, 2015, 05:53:16 PM
The best pundits seem to be the ones who've done a bit of managment recently. They know more about players, tactics, how the modern game operates. Others have managed in the past or not at all and are left behind with their poor level of knowledge and analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 30, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 30, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
In fairness to KMcStay hes very good to be fair, he has every detail of the game covered .................... him Whelan and ORourke would make a nice panel, Id love to see David Brady get at least one gig, Id imagine he'd be good as a roving reporter for rte ala  wooly for newstalk, just keep pitch side for the whooping and schelping

I have to say I think Newstalk's GAA coverage is miles ahead of RTE Radio and it's  even better than when Second Captains use to run it, Molloy and Gilroy just let the analysts get on with it. Great interview with Tom Cribben last night and top analysis from Wooly (knows more than his Jack the lad persona sometimes lets on) and James Horan. Horan actually claimed Dublin are playing football at a level that no team has ever played at but unlike Parkinson thinks they might be caught at AI semi stage. It was just positive stuff miles away from Brolly et al.

I agree with that, Dinny. I heard that show last night and when I thought about it I realised it's the first bit of media football talk I've listened to for years. I don't listen at all to the TV punditry on RTE. But if that's bad, the shite on the radio is even worse. Brian Carty and players from the teams playing this week "I-supposing" each other for half an hour and talking in utter banalities. Or worse, Marty Morrissey. I'm totally serious when I say I get far better football conversation in my local. And some of them are rugby heads. And they're all from Cork!

But the talk last night was utterly absorbing and informative. I was surprised Woolly made sense. Who knew? But Horan was very interesting and knowledgeable.

Have never head the show. Is there a podcast.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 06:06:09 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 30, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 30, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
In fairness to KMcStay hes very good to be fair, he has every detail of the game covered .................... him Whelan and ORourke would make a nice panel, Id love to see David Brady get at least one gig, Id imagine he'd be good as a roving reporter for rte ala  wooly for newstalk, just keep pitch side for the whooping and schelping

I have to say I think Newstalk's GAA coverage is miles ahead of RTE Radio and it's  even better than when Second Captains use to run it, Molloy and Gilroy just let the analysts get on with it. Great interview with Tom Cribben last night and top analysis from Wooly (knows more than his Jack the lad persona sometimes lets on) and James Horan. Horan actually claimed Dublin are playing football at a level that no team has ever played at but unlike Parkinson thinks they might be caught at AI semi stage. It was just positive stuff miles away from Brolly et al.

I agree with that, Dinny. I heard that show last night and when I thought about it I realised it's the first bit of media football talk I've listened to for years. I don't listen at all to the TV punditry on RTE. But if that's bad, the shite on the radio is even worse. Brian Carty and players from the teams playing this week "I-supposing" each other for half an hour and talking in utter banalities. Or worse, Marty Morrissey. I'm totally serious when I say I get far better football conversation in my local. And some of them are rugby heads. And they're all from Cork!

But the talk last night was utterly absorbing and informative. I was surprised Woolly made sense. Who knew? But Horan was very interesting and knowledgeable.

Have never head the show. Is there a podcast.

There is

https://soundcloud.com/offtheball/westmeaths-huge-win-geezer-and-wooly-meet-b-dev-on-donegal (https://soundcloud.com/offtheball/westmeaths-huge-win-geezer-and-wooly-meet-b-dev-on-donegal)

Tom Cribben interview here

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/GAA_on_Off_The_Ball/95361/Tom_Cribbin_interview (http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/GAA_on_Off_The_Ball/95361/Tom_Cribbin_interview)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 30, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 06:06:09 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 30, 2015, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 30, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 30, 2015, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on June 30, 2015, 04:12:31 PM
In fairness to KMcStay hes very good to be fair, he has every detail of the game covered .................... him Whelan and ORourke would make a nice panel, Id love to see David Brady get at least one gig, Id imagine he'd be good as a roving reporter for rte ala  wooly for newstalk, just keep pitch side for the whooping and schelping

I have to say I think Newstalk's GAA coverage is miles ahead of RTE Radio and it's  even better than when Second Captains use to run it, Molloy and Gilroy just let the analysts get on with it. Great interview with Tom Cribben last night and top analysis from Wooly (knows more than his Jack the lad persona sometimes lets on) and James Horan. Horan actually claimed Dublin are playing football at a level that no team has ever played at but unlike Parkinson thinks they might be caught at AI semi stage. It was just positive stuff miles away from Brolly et al.

I agree with that, Dinny. I heard that show last night and when I thought about it I realised it's the first bit of media football talk I've listened to for years. I don't listen at all to the TV punditry on RTE. But if that's bad, the shite on the radio is even worse. Brian Carty and players from the teams playing this week "I-supposing" each other for half an hour and talking in utter banalities. Or worse, Marty Morrissey. I'm totally serious when I say I get far better football conversation in my local. And some of them are rugby heads. And they're all from Cork!

But the talk last night was utterly absorbing and informative. I was surprised Woolly made sense. Who knew? But Horan was very interesting and knowledgeable.

Have never head the show. Is there a podcast.

There is

https://soundcloud.com/offtheball/westmeaths-huge-win-geezer-and-wooly-meet-b-dev-on-donegal (https://soundcloud.com/offtheball/westmeaths-huge-win-geezer-and-wooly-meet-b-dev-on-donegal)

Tom Cribben interview here

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/GAA_on_Off_The_Ball/95361/Tom_Cribbin_interview (http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/GAA_on_Off_The_Ball/95361/Tom_Cribbin_interview)

Thanks
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2015, 09:30:15 PM
Brilliant interview with Cahir Healy a couple of weeks ago about hurling for Laois as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 30, 2015, 09:37:20 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on June 30, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
There was feck all wrong with Anthony Tohill.

He was very good, the best of what RTE had. Was there a mutiny cos someone was talking sense?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 30, 2015, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 30, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
I like Woolly, he knows his stuff but doesn't take himself at all seriously.
Not mad about Gilroy, I think Joe Molloy is much easier to listen to.
They have a good laugh without going OTT on 'the banter' as well.

Agree with that. Gilroy tries far too hard to make it sound like they're having such a great laugh.
The others just get on with talking about football in an interesting and informative way, and having a laugh while they're at it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Conallach on July 01, 2015, 12:53:00 AM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on June 30, 2015, 05:53:16 PM
The best pundits seem to be the ones who've done a bit of managment recently. They know more about players, tactics, how the modern game operates. Others have managed in the past or not at all and are left behind with their poor level of knowledge and analysis.

yeah, i've really been enjoying James Horan on Newstalk so far. Very thoughtful. Wooly's a little bit reactionary, but seems like a good guy

I tried the RTÉ GAA podcast a couple of weeks ago, after Donegal - Armagh and it was an unholy mess of regurgitated nonsense
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 01, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
No sure about being a former manager. I think it's like everything else, some guys have a natural aptitude, whether they've managed or not, and some guys don't. Anthony Moyles and Colm Parkinson are two I like to listen to who haven't managed. James Horan is another who obviously has.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 01, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 01, 2015, 02:11:26 PM
No sure about being a former manager. I think it's like everything else, some guys have a natural aptitude, whether they've managed or not, and some guys don't. Anthony Moyles and Colm Parkinson are two I like to listen to who haven't managed. James Horan is another who obviously has.

Used to like Moyles but I think he is a bit of a spoofer now who invariably refers to his own career - "I remember when we were playing Wexford and it's very like that..." Surely not every game played now is a mirror image of one of his own games with Meath? Parkinson is hit and miss but is quite good as a sideline interviewer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 01, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
The game on Sunday was EXACTLY like the game against Wexford in 2008 that Moyles was talking about.
Everyone I met afterwards said the same thing, so he was perfectly entitled to make the comparison.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 01, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
The game on Sunday was EXACTLY like the game against Wexford in 2008 that Moyles was talking about.
Everyone I met afterwards said the same thing, so he was perfectly entitled to make the comparison.

It wasn't the first time he referenced his own career, he does it regularly and often says nothing. Compared to McConville who can speak about a game without saying something like "I remember the time we played them in the league.... or we were once 5 points down at half time...."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 01, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 01, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 01, 2015, 05:45:40 PM
The game on Sunday was EXACTLY like the game against Wexford in 2008 that Moyles was talking about.
Everyone I met afterwards said the same thing, so he was perfectly entitled to make the comparison.

It wasn't the first time he referenced his own career, he does it regularly and often says nothing. Compared to McConville who can speak about a game without saying something like "I remember the time we played them in the league.... or we were once 5 points down at half time...."

That's funny because I think McConville is awful, talks in cliches whereas I like Moyles, his anecdotes might be personal but they tend to be relevant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 01, 2015, 06:31:59 PM
Really Dinny? I used to think he was quite good and he can at least talk, unlike McHugh for example, which is like re-sitting your French or Irish oral. But I think he says very little interesting or informative. McConville is dour sounding but I think he is interesting. Horan is very good as well IMO.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 06:36:49 PM
Lookit, you can't please everyone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 01, 2015, 06:43:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 06:36:49 PM
Lookit, you can't please everyone.

True, but I think we all agree RTE relative to resources are awful.

Horan is refreshing, but coming from a serious set-up that he cultured you'd expect that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 01, 2015, 08:56:05 PM
Tremendous piece again on Newstalk tonight. Michael Duignan and Anthony Daly talking about the 1998 season in general and the Jimmy Cooney game and its aftermath in particular. Absolutely riveting, with great insights, inside stories and intelligent observations. That's two nights in a row of top notch sports broadcasting. It'll become a must hear at this rate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 01, 2015, 11:20:35 PM

Agreed - brilliant piece of radio.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours

I was about to get out my old geography book...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:14:50 PM
How was it a 50/50 sending off ffs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on July 05, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
Tommy Carr is full of shite , absolute bluffer. Don't know how he could say 50/50
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours

I was about to get out my old geography book...

In fairness there is only one county between them

(http://www.expert.ie/app_themes/shop4nowexpress/images/contentmisc/roscommon_map.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:44:19 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours

I was about to get out my old geography book...

In fairness there is only one county between them

(http://www.expert.ie/app_themes/shop4nowexpress/images/contentmisc/roscommon_map.jpg)

I know that, but sure there's only one county between ourselves and Clare as well 😋
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: panc56 on July 05, 2015, 11:47:23 PM
RTE crew have problems but Tom Carr is disgraceful. No idea at all , you want somebody to call it as it is but he just can't do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 06, 2015, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours

I was about to get out my old geography book...

In fairness there is only one county between them

(http://www.expert.ie/app_themes/shop4nowexpress/images/contentmisc/roscommon_map.jpg)

That logic makes Waterford and Galway neighbours.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 06, 2015, 12:19:57 AM
Longford is just a place that Cavan and Roscommon folk  pass through in order to visit each other on match days.


I don't mind Tommy Carr  I don't get the animosity towards him, he's so easy on the ear that I don't hear him. i just watch the game and take or leave any comment I might overhear from Tommy.
Whereas a character like Brolly hits the nerves with a subtlety of a jackhammer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 06, 2015, 12:23:55 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 06, 2015, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours

I was about to get out my old geography book...

In fairness there is only one county between them

(http://www.expert.ie/app_themes/shop4nowexpress/images/contentmisc/roscommon_map.jpg)

That logic makes Waterford and Galway neighbours.

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 06, 2015, 12:24:14 AM
I was surprised Pat "bitterly disappointed" Flanagan wasn't mad on commuting to neighboring Sligo this year alright
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 06, 2015, 08:13:58 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2015, 12:19:57 AM
Longford is just a place that Cavan and Roscommon folk  pass through in order to visit each other on match days.


I don't mind Tommy Carr  I don't get the animosity towards him, he's so easy on the ear that I don't hear him. i just watch the game and take or leave any comment I might overhear from Tommy.
Whereas a character like Brolly hits the nerves with a subtlety of a jackhammer.

He's about as easy on the ear as a pair of sandpaper headphones.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 06, 2015, 04:35:34 PM

Quite a few pigeons on the pitch during the Kilkenny/Galway match. Surely CP can afford to employ a couple of hawks to clear them out?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 06, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
They can't be everywhere, sure they are fecking trying to decide what's a score and a wide, you can't expect them to chase pigeons as well!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 06, 2015, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 06, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
They can't be everywhere, sure they are fecking trying to decide what's a score and a wide, you can't expect them to chase pigeons as well!

Anything faster than a leisurely amble is instant grounds for dismissal from the umpires association.

I did see  one of the umpires at the weekend (not sure if the Cavan Ros, the Kerry Cork or the hurling) do what I could only describe as a bit of a flounce when he was waving the white flag for one score. Twas almost like a bit of that floor gymnastics. Down with that sort of thing I was thinking. Hope someone had a word in his ear like. If he wansts to be getting a bit artistic shur isnt that what Scor is for.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 06, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
McStay said last night that Kerrry didn't deserve a draw, but a draw was probably the fairest result.............
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 06, 2015, 06:31:32 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 06, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
They can't be everywhere, sure they are fecking trying to decide what's a score and a wide, you can't expect them to chase pigeons as well!

There was a prize "goal" in Mullingar yesterday :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 06, 2015, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 06, 2015, 06:31:32 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 06, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
They can't be everywhere, sure they are fecking trying to decide what's a score and a wide, you can't expect them to chase pigeons as well!

There was a prize "goal" in Mullingar yesterday :-[

That was unreal. If it happened against Kilkenny or Tipperary there'd be open warfare!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 06, 2015, 10:30:26 PM
I didn't see the papers for the aftermath; what did the umpires say happened?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 06, 2015, 10:39:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 06, 2015, 12:23:55 AM
Quote from: muppet on July 06, 2015, 12:02:54 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 05, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 05, 2015, 11:11:33 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 05, 2015, 11:10:19 PM
Good man Des.
Cavan and Roscommon are now neighbours

I was about to get out my old geography book...

In fairness there is only one county between them

(http://www.expert.ie/app_themes/shop4nowexpress/images/contentmisc/roscommon_map.jpg)

That logic makes Waterford and Galway neighbours.

;D

Indeed it looks like our up coming grudge match with Meath now has the added spice of a derby fixture
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nailer on July 06, 2015, 11:08:53 PM
Donal Og admitted last night that T J Reid took ten steps before shooting to the net and then went on on to say that Galway shouldn't complain but should look at how they conceded the goal.
Kilkenny would still have won if the goal had of been disallowed so it didn't affect the result.
However, the correct decision should have been a free out and the goal disallowed, Donal Og is obviously afraid of upsetting Brian Cody and Des didn't pull him up for it.

On a different note, in the football game between Roscommon and Cavan referee David Gough sent off Cavan's Tom Corr who had been substituted before the match was restarted, had Tom not been among the subs in the stand he couldn't have been called on to the pitch and red carded.
In that case would Cavan have been allowed to play the the second half with fifteen players? It was a pity Des didn't put this question to Ciaran Whelan and Kevin Mc Stay during the programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2015, 11:11:53 PM
Quote from: Nailer on July 06, 2015, 11:08:53 PM
Donal Og admitted last night that T J Reid took ten steps before shooting to the net and then went on on to say that Galway shouldn't complain but should look at how they conceded the goal.
Kilkenny would still have won if the goal had of been disallowed so it didn't affect the result.
However, the correct decision should have been a free out and the goal disallowed, Donal Og is obviously afraid of upsetting Brian Cody and Des didn't pull him up for it.

On a different note, in the football game between Roscommon and Cavan referee David Gough sent off Cavan's Tom Corr who had been substituted before the match was restarted, had Tom not been among the subs in the stand he couldn't have been called on to the pitch and red carded.
In that case would Cavan have been allowed to play the the second half with fifteen players? It was a pity Des didn't put this question to Ciaran Whelan and Kevin Mc Stay during the programme.

I doubt K-Mac or Whelan would know such rules minutia. Likely he would have not allowed the substitution and given a red card to Corr in absentia.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 06, 2015, 11:36:14 PM
He hadn't " been substituted before the match restarted" as the sideline official told the Cavan Secretary he couldn't accept his piesheen of paper and then no 21 was called back off the pitch.
No official substitution took place.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on July 07, 2015, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Nailer on July 06, 2015, 11:08:53 PM
Donal Og admitted last night that T J Reid took ten steps before shooting to the net and then went on on to say that Galway shouldn't complain but should look at how they conceded the goal.
Kilkenny would still have won if the goal had of been disallowed so it didn't affect the result.
However, the correct decision should have been a free out and the goal disallowed, Donal Og is obviously afraid of upsetting Brian Cody and Des didn't pull him up for it.

Why would Donal og be frightened of upsetting Cody? His point was that rather than using this as an excuse for loosing, Galway needed to look at other aspects of their game. Fair point I thought!
And yes it should have been a free out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 07, 2015, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 06, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
McStay said last night that Kerrry didn't deserve a draw, but a draw was probably the fairest result.............

You know exactly what he means.

If Kerry are off the pace but anywhere close at all the referee will ensure they get a draw ..... er in fairness like.

Unless they are playing the Dubs. Then the pendulum swings to the Dubs as the sense of entitlement/expectation swings to the Dubs and the referee caves in according to script. Like he did in 2011.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 07, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
Just watched it last night.
Is it me or does Donal og come across as dour. 

On GAAGO, I just fast forward. Not sure if it is his accent, his tone, but I cannot listen to him.
I feel that if the game was 6-22 to 4-28, his initial comment would be negative, that it was too high scoring or something.

Michael Lyster I think has also figured that out. Last season after an absolutely cracking hurling game in Croke Park, he was first to comment, and took the mood down from 60 to 0 in about five seconds. Lyster mercifully cut him off and quickly switched to another panel member.

Don't want to sound overly critical, but he could sound a little more upbeat.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 07, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
My wife was saying the same thing about him last Sunday night. He seems to be in cranky auld form these days. He even has a bit of a sneery head on him when Anthony Daly, who is a very personable man by all accounts, was disagreeing with him. I'd say Donal Óg has a very high opinion of his own opinion.

But sure, as the fella says, a Corkman with an inferiority complex thinks he's only as good as everyone else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 07, 2015, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 07, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
I'd say Donal Óg has a very high opinion of his own opinion.

He probably posts here, so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 07, 2015, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 07, 2015, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 07, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
I'd say Donal Óg has a very high opinion of his own opinion.

He probably posts here, so.

Probably. He wouldn't be all out as good as ourselves though :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on July 07, 2015, 04:49:13 PM
Quote from: moysider on July 07, 2015, 12:41:59 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 06, 2015, 05:43:06 PM
McStay said last night that Kerrry didn't deserve a draw, but a draw was probably the fairest result.............

You know exactly what he means.

If Kerry are off the pace but anywhere close at all the referee will ensure they get a draw ..... er in fairness like.

Unless they are playing the Dubs. Then the pendulum swings to the Dubs as the sense of entitlement/expectation swings to the Dubs and the referee caves in according to script. Like he did in 2011.

Pity the referee didn't read the scripts  ;) in 2013 AISF when he gave Kerry the mandatory soft penalty decision.
Oh and I suppose I better not mention the AISF of 2012 lest we  allow facts get in the way of conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 12, 2015, 09:32:13 PM
Hola not working to watch sunday game on rte.

any other ways I can watch it? Im in England
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redzone on July 12, 2015, 09:39:08 PM
No
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bamboo on July 12, 2015, 09:46:44 PM
If you have an iPhone or iPad download world tv plus and you'll find rte 2 in the sports section.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on July 12, 2015, 09:47:08 PM
Des asking Donal Og are tactics coming more into big games.You couldn't make it up :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 12, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 12, 2015, 09:32:13 PM
Hola not working to watch sunday game on rte.

any other ways I can watch it? Im in England

f**king disaster it hasn't been working for me tho last few weeks!!  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 12, 2015, 10:00:18 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 12, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 12, 2015, 09:32:13 PM
Hola not working to watch sunday game on rte.

any other ways I can watch it? Im in England

f**king disaster it hasn't been working for me tho last few weeks!!  >:(

yeah i know. it works for rte1 news
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 12, 2015, 10:06:13 PM
RTÉ news is not restricted internationally. RTÉ are going to close the Hola path. Maybe have a family member install Slingbox?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
Same ole bullshit, all repeated games we already seen today/last night. About time Rte Realised people want to seen qualifier games not live repeats on TV not 3 Min's highlights which is what we get if we lucky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on July 12, 2015, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
Same ole bullshit, all repeated games we already seen today/last night. About time Rte Realised people want to seen qualifier games not love on TV not 3 Min's highlights which is what we get if we lucky.

agree, the sunday night highlights programme is pointless at this stage. just pure laziness by RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: FermGael on July 12, 2015, 10:49:51 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
Same ole bullshit, all repeated games we already seen today/last night. About time Rte Realised people want to seen qualifier games not live repeats on TV not 3 Min's highlights which is what we get if we lucky.
It's beyond a joke at this stage
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 12, 2015, 10:54:21 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 12, 2015, 10:49:51 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
Same ole bullshit, all repeated games we already seen today/last night. About time Rte Realised people want to seen qualifier games not live repeats on TV not 3 Min's highlights which is what we get if we lucky.
It's beyond a joke at this stage

One hour and 20 mins in before we get any coverage of a game not previously shown live over the weekend. Maybe cut the time spent on the "analysis". I wouldn't mind as much if it actually was worth listening too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2015, 11:03:36 PM
Seriously all them games and that's what they show, totally pathetic
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on July 12, 2015, 11:15:38 PM
What was McHugh's point about the Western seaboard & Meath?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 12, 2015, 11:22:51 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 12, 2015, 11:15:38 PM
What was McHugh's point about the Western seaboard & Meath?

Not even sure McHugh knew what he was trying to say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: FermGael on July 12, 2015, 11:24:00 PM
That was an absolute joke
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on July 12, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
They all said they did not think it was a penalty to Armagh but do not show it again to explain why. On one look it appeared to me that Clarke slipped on way through but did not think he was fouled but I then thought he was fouled when he tried to pass it out. Need another look but did not record it.
They also analysed a point not given in hurling but not what appeared to be a wide given as a point in the football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 12, 2015, 11:40:52 PM
Given the number of qualifier games on this weekend, the TV coverage was a joke. Surely an extended programme on a Monday night for the 5 or so weeks of the qualifiers should be used. You'd nearly see as much on the sports news.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on July 12, 2015, 11:42:30 PM
Absolute shite effort tnite again from RTE. If they can get cameras at games, surely they can acquire more than two mins footage. A ten second interview with one of the managers as well if ur
lucky. Camogie at the end to round it all off. Its just not good enough. Soccer Republic is a far slicker production and it doesnt get a quarter of the viewership
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 12, 2015, 11:45:26 PM
Ger Canning announced before the Leinster final that it was "a big huge day".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 12, 2015, 11:50:32 PM
I really enjoyed watching Dublin hammer Westmeath twice today, excellent work RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 12, 2015, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 12, 2015, 11:42:30 PM
Absolute shite effort tnite again from RTE. If they can get cameras at games, surely they can acquire more than two mins footage. A ten second interview with one of the managers as well if ur
lucky. Camogie at the end to round it all off. Its just not good enough. Soccer Republic is a far slicker production and it doesnt get a quarter of the viewership

You know what Croke park deserve as much blame as RTE,
Remember they own the product. Would not be shocked if it is treated as qualifiers and the provincial honchos could not give a shite as it is not their yob and they have nothing to gain by promoting same qualifiers. Maybe a conspiracy theory, but ......
Bottom line it is a crap product by rte
Q why don't sky look to do a review show on a Sunday or Monday to generate some competition and to shake up those lazy you know what in donnybrook
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 12, 2015, 11:58:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 12, 2015, 11:50:32 PM
I really enjoyed watching Dublin hammer Westmeath twice today, excellent work RTE.

Somebody needs to remind rte the days of the riordans and glenroe are gone, viewers want better quality
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 13, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Fermanagh game deserved a lot more time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 13, 2015, 12:23:37 AM
where can we get a refund for the licence fee?
such muck of a program.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on July 13, 2015, 03:53:42 AM
Look I suppose it could be better
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 13, 2015, 08:33:37 AM
The stuff Martin McHugh comes out with is just weird at this stage.
It's like there's two of him in there fighting for control.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

Could they just upload to Rte player the unedited 1 camera coverage they have. Most people who would be interested in downloading games like that would be used to the 1 man amateur club videos, so it wouldn't be that we need 5 cameras to watch the game. I know I'd love to be able to download and watch a game, any game that I want, on Monday or Tuesday. I'd even pay a small subscription for the chance to do so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 13, 2015, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

If this true then the GAA should have a seperate package for the coverage of these games. I'm sure TV3, TG4 or even Sky or Setanta would have covered them with a bit more professionalism and respect.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 13, 2015, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 13, 2015, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

If this true then the GAA should have a seperate package for the coverage of these games. I'm sure TV3, TG4 or even Sky or Setanta would have covered them with a bit more professionalism and respect.

Exactly, selling the rights to the qualifier series matches seperately would solve the issue and produce a Monday night programme with 7/8 minutes per game instead of the usual 4 or 5 scores that they seem to show. Also annoying is the fact that the pundits in the studio analyse the games as though they were actually at the match. Do they actually watch the games in full or are their opinions just based on second hand information?? For instance Tomas 'Look' O'Se (who is mainly excellent) thought Armagh were dominated at midfield and seemed to be a team playing under a lot of pressure. He was correct in what he was saying but how did he know this without watching the full match?   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 09:17:35 AM
No it wouldn't solve the problem because no one would buy the package. For a company to get value out of the bundle they would have to show all the games live, which would mean the majority of them being rescheduled to throw in at different times from each other. Because of the crowded nature of the GAA calendar, this would not be allowed happen, so you'd have companies looking to buy games they couldn't show.

And no one is going to shell out money to cover games properly only to mothball the coverage for a highlights package. That is not how it works lads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 10:08:03 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 13, 2015, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 13, 2015, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

If this true then the GAA should have a seperate package for the coverage of these games. I'm sure TV3, TG4 or even Sky or Setanta would have covered them with a bit more professionalism and respect.

Exactly, selling the rights to the qualifier series matches seperately would solve the issue and produce a Monday night programme with 7/8 minutes per game instead of the usual 4 or 5 scores that they seem to show. Also annoying is the fact that the pundits in the studio analyse the games as though they were actually at the match. Do they actually watch the games in full or are their opinions just based on second hand information?? For instance Tomas 'Look' O'Se (who is mainly excellent) thought Armagh were dominated at midfield and seemed to be a team playing under a lot of pressure. He was correct in what he was saying but how did he know this without watching the full match?

Des mentioned that the lads watched the Armagh game live. I assume they were sitting in a room in RTE watching the feed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 13, 2015, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 09:17:35 AM
No it wouldn't solve the problem because no one would buy the package. For a company to get value out of the bundle they would have to show all the games live, which would mean the majority of them being rescheduled to throw in at different times from each other. Because of the crowded nature of the GAA calendar, this would not be allowed happen, so you'd have companies looking to buy games they couldn't show.

And no one is going to shell out money to cover games properly only to mothball the coverage for a highlights package. That is not how it works lads.

Would TG4 not be happy with a qualifier package and highlights show? Seems a fair bit more attractive than an u21championship or club matches that they cover so well. Shared amongst the broadcasters we could at least have scrabbled together more than RTE served up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 13, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

Does time constraints come in to it as well? i.e. the one reporter has to field calls from the Sunday Sport studio, get the highlights of the game put together, commentate over it and get it shipped off before deadline?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 13, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

Does time constraints come in to it as well? i.e. the one reporter has to field calls from the Sunday Sport studio, get the highlights of the game put together, commentate over it and get it shipped off before deadline?

Again, my point re the footage just available to whomever wants it on the website.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
As i pointed out above you'd need to show the games live for it to make sense financially - that is not possible with qualifiers being scheduled for the same day, on the same weekends as championship games.

Guys, it is a minimum of 30k per outside broadcast plus satellite costs, plus production costs. You're not going to do that just for highlights.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 10:25:38 AM
easytiger, you're in the game. How feasible would it be to just upload the footage that is sent to Montrose and ends up on the cutting room floor so to speak. Surely all this is digital at this stage? If it was a club game, you'd probably get Johnny Mac and Peader the commentator, but you'd get watchable footage. Surely a professional cameraman, even if there is just one camera, would be able to capture the game from a stationary position and upload it without even having commentary. (That might be a better experience for the viewer in some cases!!)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 10:26:38 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 13, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Lads, don;t want to defend RTE here, but there is absolutely no way that they could cover all the qualifier games. Do you know how expensive it is to put an outside broadcast unit into a ground? Bear in mind that a lot of these places wouldn't have a TV gantry so you're looking at a scaffold build for many of them. For you to have usable, broadcast quality highlights for more than 2/3 mins you need at least three cameras at a ground. Most of those qualifier games were covered by one camera - it is that that dictates the length of the highlights.

Slag them for analysis, presentation, whatever you like - but they simply don;t have the money to cover those games.

Does time constraints come in to it as well? i.e. the one reporter has to field calls from the Sunday Sport studio, get the highlights of the game put together, commentate over it and get it shipped off before deadline?

Yep, it is always a struggle to get these kind of shows done and dusted in time. But it still comes back to the basic thing of producing the content - if you want extensive highlights you will have to have covered all the games properly - and no one, including RTE, has the money or the inclination to spend to cover these games like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 10:25:38 AM
easytiger, you're in the game. How feasible would it be to just upload the footage that is sent to Montrose and ends up on the cutting room floor so to speak. Surely all this is digital at this stage? If it was a club game, you'd probably get Johnny Mac and Peader the commentator, but you'd get watchable footage. Surely a professional cameraman, even if there is just one camera, would be able to capture the game from a stationary position and upload it without even having commentary. (That might be a better experience for the viewer in some cases!!)

Used to be in the game AZ - I'm out of it nearly 3 years now. If you wanted to do something like that you could do that, everything is digital now, but you still use satellite uplinks to get live or recorded pictures back to base, so it's more than a single camera man. Or you can record to SD card, bring that back by road and upload. Obviously it would be a few hours before it was available.

If you wanted to stream games from a single camera you could, but a lot these places don't have sufficient bandwidth, so you'd have to buy wifi in - in terms of cost it's cheaper than satellite but the quality obviously isn't great.

Cheaper solutions will come online over the next few years, but for the moment, traditional broadcasting is too expensive for these games and no one has figured out how to monetize streaming.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 10:49:34 AM
I'm thinking the low cost solution would work. One cameraman, digital recording off one camera. SD card back at base Monday morning, upload to rte.ie/gamefootage/ and Bob's your mother's brother.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laceer on July 13, 2015, 11:04:45 AM
Gary Neville made a good point about analysing games that he wasn't at-said he would watch the game on the camera with the wide shot that covered the whole pitch. Made it easier to see patterns of play, tactical set up etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 13, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
I think the cost of highlights is being exaggerated here. Tg4 show highlights of league, u21, club, minor games etc that weren't on TV on a Monday evening and I'm sure they spend no fortune on it. You imagine if they were offered the right deal they'd happily do similar for the championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 13, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 13, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
I think the cost of highlights is being exaggerated here. Tg4 show highlights of league, u21, club, minor games etc that weren't on TV on a Monday evening and I'm sure they spend no fortune on it. You imagine if they were offered the right deal they'd happily do similar for the championship.
TG4 aren't held over a barrel by trade unions the way RTE are.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on July 13, 2015, 11:19:38 AM
It's really easy to save costs, just look at the highlights on TG4. Sack Des Cahill and all the 'experts' and just show all the action!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 13, 2015, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 13, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
I think the cost of highlights is being exaggerated here. Tg4 show highlights of league, u21, club, minor games etc that weren't on TV on a Monday evening and I'm sure they spend no fortune on it. You imagine if they were offered the right deal they'd happily do similar for the championship.

TG4's top rated programs are all the GAA programs.

TG4 would probably kill to get the rights to show the qualifiers.

I still think that the GAA should be looking to have their own channel.
You compare what Armagh and a fair few clubs have done now in terms of broadcasting games on a shoestring and it really shows up what bad value RTE are.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
What RTE haven't copped on to is that this isn't 1995 when half the country maybe needed the evening show to catch up on that day's biggest game. Many just record the live game now if they're out and watch it later. We've already had to sit through analysis before, during and after the live show. Now we've another session of bollocks on the same game to endure before seeing clips of games not shown.

It should be the other way about. Dub/WM should have been a 3-min recap on scores followed by a 1-min acute analysis from Marty McHugh about how the famine still impacts on GAA today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 13, 2015, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
What RTE haven't copped on to is that this isn't 1995 when half the country maybe needed the evening show to catch up on that day's biggest game. Many just record the live game now if they're out and watch it later. We've already had to sit through analysis before, during and after the live show. Now we've another session of bollocks on the same game to endure before seeing clips of games not shown.

It should be the other way about. Dub/WM should have been a 3-min recap on scores followed by a 1-min acute analysis from Marty McHugh about how the famine still impacts on GAA today.

It means far less work for the lads in the RTE GAA department to reshow the live game at length, so don't expect that to change anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
Lads the highlights on TG4 come from RTE/Sky material, which they don;t have to produce themselves - the cost isn't in making a highlights programme (though a good one is expensive) it is in getting usable, broadcasting pictures.

When they are doing minor/club/u 21 matches then they can show highlights of these as well. During the club season, TG4 would show max three games a weekend.

Trust me lads, in my time i worked w Setanta/TG4/TV3/RTE. The problem isn't laziness on anyone's part - for the broadcasters it is money, for the GAA it is balancing coverage with gate receipts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 11:53:00 AM
And would my suggestion not be a very low cost alternative?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 11:58:30 AM
you mean sending a single camera out to every game, bringing footage back and uploading it to streaming portal, making it available to everyone?

Well, it is certainly something you could do, but I don't think you'd have too many takers re  subscriptions. the quality would be very poor - again, a lot of these grounds don;t have TV positions, making it very difficult for single cameraman (which by the way, is an art in itself, it's a real skill to cover a match anywhere near effectively with one camera). I don't think ti would pay for itself, and would the GAA really want to let out a lot of poor quality material for little payback, especially when they are trying to promote the games as a high end product? Loads of downside, very little upside i would think, for either fans or GAA.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:02:12 PM
Whilst we're discussing things that are never gonna happen whilst RTE hold the rights, can I suggest we have a Sunday Game Big Brother mash-up every Sunday night? We start the season with a full panel of presenters, analysts and commentators and every week we have a vote-off to see which one we execute live on air on Sunday night.

Think of the benefits;
- reduces cost by stream lining the work force.
- adds excitement and a sense of risk into the Sunday night broadcast.
- allows greater involvement by the audience.
- a flurry of sensible dress code as analysts try not to stand out.

If it starts to become stale you could throw in stuff like a 600 volt shock to the ass if Ger Canning says the word's "huge one" or Martin Carney utters the phrase "very much so".

So is this idea a runner or do you think I need to seek professional help?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on July 13, 2015, 11:58:30 AM
you mean sending a single camera out to every game, bringing footage back and uploading it to streaming portal, making it available to everyone?

Well, it is certainly something you could do, but I don't think you'd have too many takers re  subscriptions. the quality would be very poor - again, a lot of these grounds don;t have TV positions, making it very difficult for single cameraman (which by the way, is an art in itself, it's a real skill to cover a match anywhere near effectively with one camera). I don't think ti would pay for itself, and would the GAA really want to let out a lot of poor quality material for little payback, especially when they are trying to promote the games as a high end product? Loads of downside, very little upside i would think, for either fans or GAA.

Well this is what club teams up and down the country do and there doesn't seem to be any issue with it. As long as the scene was set correctly, in that it's not a professional program, it's just game footage, I don't see the drawback. There are cameramen/man there. The footage exists. It's in digital format. I can't see it being a huge job to upload it to a central repository for download for a small fee. They're probably archiving all the footage off somewhere ANYWAY.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 13, 2015, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:02:12 PM
Whilst we're discussing things that are never gonna happen whilst RTE hold the rights, can I suggest we have a Sunday Game Big Brother mash-up every Sunday night? We start the season with a full panel of presenters, analysts and commentators and every week we have a vote-off to see which one we execute live on air on Sunday night.

Think of the benefits;
- reduces cost by stream lining the work force.
- adds excitement and a sense of risk into the Sunday night broadcast.
- allows greater involvement by the audience.
- a flurry of sensible dress code as analysts try not to stand out.

If it starts to become stale you could throw in stuff like a 600 volt shock to the ass if Ger Canning says the word's "huge one" or Martin Carney utters the phrase "very much so".

So is this idea a runner or do you think I need to seek professional help?

Brilliant idea  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: County Man on July 13, 2015, 12:19:08 PM
Too much coverage of games already live on tv.

Ridiculous reports from the rest of the games.

Needs to be overhauled.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 13, 2015, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:02:12 PM
Whilst we're discussing things that are never gonna happen whilst RTE hold the rights, can I suggest we have a Sunday Game Big Brother mash-up every Sunday night? We start the season with a full panel of presenters, analysts and commentators and every week we have a vote-off to see which one we execute live on air on Sunday night.

Think of the benefits;
- reduces cost by stream lining the work force.
- adds excitement and a sense of risk into the Sunday night broadcast.
- allows greater involvement by the audience.
- a flurry of sensible dress code as analysts try not to stand out.

If it starts to become stale you could throw in stuff like a 600 volt shock to the ass if Ger Canning says the word's "huge one" or Martin Carney utters the phrase "very much so".

So is this idea a runner or do you think I need to seek professional help?

Not sure if the power grid could handle the demand.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on July 13, 2015, 01:35:46 PM
Why was 'The Game on Monday' dropped? That had proper extended highlights of all the weekend games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 13, 2015, 01:46:06 PM
Sport is not a priority in RTE anymore

and even in the sport department, you'd have to seriously question how important the GAA is to the people in charge.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 01:52:31 PM
Would Sport not be among their top earning broadcasts?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on July 13, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 13, 2015, 01:46:06 PM
Sport is not a priority in RTE anymore

and even in the sport department, you'd have to seriously question how important the GAA is to the people in charge.
Interesting article from a soccer perspective:

QuoteBut there are also deeper social and structural reasons for the marginalisation of domestic football. Top-level sport in Ireland is hugely dependent on the tastes and patronage of the country's political elite. The national broadcaster – minutely sensitive to the whims of the privileged - is the most reliable indicator of a sport's status within Irish society.

By this measure, the primacy of the GAA is unassailable; as much for the tone and tenor of RTÉ's coverage as for its sheer volume.  By comparison with RTÉ's breathless, bombastic GAA promos, Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will looks like a home video of a family outing.

Likewise, rugby – the indissoluble social glue which binds Ireland's urban elite together – has never wanted for friends and allies in high places. Long before professionalisation and the Celtic Tiger swept rugby into the sporting mainstream, the All-Ireland League was a fixture on our screens.
http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/14301/apocalypse-always-the-many-deaths-of-the-league-of-ireland/

The article is worth a read. The author comes across a bit more upbeat than a lot of LOI die-hards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on July 13, 2015, 10:18:22 PM
I dont buy this cost argument at all. Take a look at Soccer Republic tonight and ull see a few muns coverage of evey game that was played; even if there were two men and a dog in attendance. The quality of the footage is usually very decent too as opposed to random stills on TSG of people in the crowd while the game is going on. And yesterday  their annoying habit of selecting most irrelelavant periods of games and then conpletely missing best scores, equalising scores etc.Also how would does it cost to get a single interview from each camp that lasts longer than 6 seconds?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 13, 2015, 11:25:33 PM
Always good to remember the League Sunday nonsense of March-April from RTE as well. Re-run of the games already on TG4/Setanta and no results or tables. Contrast as ever to MNS or Against the Head. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: agorm on July 13, 2015, 11:57:04 PM
Quote from: FermGael on July 12, 2015, 10:49:51 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 12, 2015, 10:08:24 PM
Same ole bullshit, all repeated games we already seen today/last night. About time Rte Realised people want to seen qualifier games not live repeats on TV not 3 Min's highlights which is what we get if we lucky.
It's beyond a joke at this stage

I agree, same with Tyrone Meath. Coverage of that game was pathetic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 14, 2015, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 13, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 13, 2015, 01:46:06 PM
Sport is not a priority in RTE anymore

and even in the sport department, you'd have to seriously question how important the GAA is to the people in charge.
Interesting article from a soccer perspective:

QuoteBut there are also deeper social and structural reasons for the marginalisation of domestic football. Top-level sport in Ireland is hugely dependent on the tastes and patronage of the country's political elite. The national broadcaster – minutely sensitive to the whims of the privileged - is the most reliable indicator of a sport's status within Irish society.

By this measure, the primacy of the GAA is unassailable; as much for the tone and tenor of RTÉ's coverage as for its sheer volume.  By comparison with RTÉ's breathless, bombastic GAA promos, Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will looks like a home video of a family outing.

Likewise, rugby – the indissoluble social glue which binds Ireland's urban elite together – has never wanted for friends and allies in high places. Long before professionalisation and the Celtic Tiger swept rugby into the sporting mainstream, the All-Ireland League was a fixture on our screens.
http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/14301/apocalypse-always-the-many-deaths-of-the-league-of-ireland/

The article is worth a read. The author comes across a bit more upbeat than a lot of LOI die-hards.

He's probably right in that the GAA does get a large volume of coverage (reflecting it's popularity), it's the quality of the coverage that's the problem though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
QuoteFermanagh attacker Tomas Corrigan has hit out at The Sunday Game's "pathetic" coverage of the Ernemen's stunning victory over Roscommon.

About two minutes of highlights was squeezed into Sunday night's omnibus show followed by virtually non-existent analysis, but Corrigan isn't surprised by the oversight of the programme makers:

"Instead of commenting on the match it was a case of 'ah, poor oul Fermanagh, they never do well'. Like, we beat Roscommon, and they got promoted to Division One. If anyone else had have done that, they would have been talking about the game," the Kinawley man states in The Irish Daily Star.

"I thought it was lazy and as an intercounty team we deserve better. But that's The Sunday Game for you - it's rubbish. It was a bluff. I'd say all they seen was those 90 seconds highlights reel and just called it on that.

"It was pathetic - '18 clubs in Fermanagh, wee Pete doing well' and paying lip service to a few refereeing decisions. It was terrible."

http://www.hoganstand.com/roscommon/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=241007

Tomas Corrigan talking a lot of sense. Good to see a player have the balls to say it like it is. Not that I was disappointed to hear that game was shunted out of the way in record time..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 17, 2015, 09:49:37 AM
The worst thing about RTEs coverage for me, is the constant talking over each other by Brolly/spillane/orourke on the live game.
It is so unprofessional.
It's not as if any of them have great points to make that they need to shout over everyone else anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on July 17, 2015, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 13, 2015, 01:46:06 PM
Sport is not a priority in RTE anymore

and even in the sport department, you'd have to seriously question how important the GAA is to the people in charge.

True that.................gayness is though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on July 18, 2015, 10:12:31 AM
FFS Squire - have you been drinking Fearon's Kool-aid? Absolutely no call for you to bring sexuality into a criticism of a sports highlights programme. Cop on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 19, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Ger Canning.

Why, RTE, why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 19, 2015, 03:58:51 PM
And Tommy Carr.
Sweet holy mother of something
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 19, 2015, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 19, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Ger Canning.

Why, RTE, why?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I made as many mistakes as he does when doing my job I'd be sacked.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 19, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Good to see Michael Lyster back today and looking in good health. His joke about more life in him than the match was a bit distasteful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 19, 2015, 06:39:27 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 19, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Good to see Michael Lyster back today and looking in good health. His joke about more life in him than the match was a bit distasteful.

It was excellent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 19, 2015, 07:30:10 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 19, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Good to see Michael Lyster back today and looking in good health. His joke about more life in him than the match was a bit distasteful.

Yeah.
He owes himself a public apology.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 19, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
BBC NI coverage of the Ulster final was very good.
That is,  if you discount the camera direction and the almost complete absence of crowd noise, I say almost because occasionally one crowd microphone would wake up and work for 10 or so seconds.
also of course it should go without saying  discount the space Martin McHugh occupied.
And also considering that the other two pundits were MONOTONE, especially Jordon whose economy in moving facial muscles  while talking is astonishing. But despite these shortcoming when on a tv sports entertainment program both  Oisin and Phil Jordon were enjoyable to listen to.
The roving  microphone man with the permanent stupefying  nordie grin, should under other circumstance have you looking for the sick bucket, but I found myself warming to his permanent state of blissful grinning positivity.
Post match, the BBC coverage stayed on pitch in the midst of the celebrations and got into the swing of the hard earned, post  game,  Ulster Final atmosphere, completed with a monaghan team hoolie in the dressing room.

The rte post game coverage was rather dour by comparison. Two thumbs up for the BBC NI gaa coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 19, 2015, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 19, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
BBC NI coverage of the Ulster final was very good.
That is,  if you discount the camera direction and the almost complete absence of crowd noise, I say almost because occasionally one crowd microphone would wake up and work for 10 or so seconds.
also of course it should go without saying  discount the space Martin McHugh occupied.
And also considering that the other two pundits were MONOTONE, especially Jordon whose economy in moving facial muscles  while talking is astonishing. But despite these shortcoming when on a tv sports entertainment program both  Oisin and Phil Jordon were enjoyable to listen to.
The roving  microphone man with the permanent stupefying  nordie grin, should under other circumstance have you looking for the sick bucket, but I found myself warming to his permanent state of blissful grinning positivity.
Post match, the BBC coverage stayed on pitch in the midst of the celebrations and got into the swing of the hard earned, post  game,  Ulster Final atmosphere, completed with a monaghan team hoolie in the dressing room.

The rte post game coverage was rather dour by comparison. Two thumbs up for the BBC NI gaa coverage.

Having Niblock as commentator has transformed their coverage. He's grown up with the GAA and played a bit so he knows what he's on about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on July 19, 2015, 11:24:58 PM
I think oisin mcconville is turning into an excellent pundit. My only gripe with bbc is the amount of time they spend looking at a sub as he takes his place on the bench while the game continues!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:32:41 PM
Dessie Dolan talking about how Horan did not use Parsons the last couple of years. He did not seem to know that Horan stood on his head to accommodate Parsons who was living and working in Cardiff to remain part of the Mayo squad. Also the lad is an injury nightmare! Though McStay might say something as he would know, but I'd say he did not want to cross a rookie analyst.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 19, 2015, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 19, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Ger Canning.

Why, RTE, why?

Yes.

And BBC, Thomas Kane. Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 19, 2015, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:32:41 PM
Dessie Dolan talking about how Horan did not use Parsons the last couple of years. He did not seem to know that Horan stood on his head to accommodate Parsons who was living and working in Cardiff to remain part of the Mayo squad. Also the lad is an injury nightmare! Though McStay might say something as he would know, but I'd say he did not want to cross a rookie analyst.

You can't expect a Rossie to know everything that's happening in Bellaghy, Bunker.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:42:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 19, 2015, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:32:41 PM
Dessie Dolan talking about how Horan did not use Parsons the last couple of years. He did not seem to know that Horan stood on his head to accommodate Parsons who was living and working in Cardiff to remain part of the Mayo squad. Also the lad is an injury nightmare! Though McStay might say something as he would know, but I'd say he did not want to cross a rookie analyst.

You can't expect a Rossie to know everything that's happening in Bellaghy, Bunker.

Don't get me wrong I liked Dessie tonight! Just irked me with that. He's a good soul and he speaks from the heart! His comments look less scripted.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 19, 2015, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:42:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 19, 2015, 11:35:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:32:41 PM
Dessie Dolan talking about how Horan did not use Parsons the last couple of years. He did not seem to know that Horan stood on his head to accommodate Parsons who was living and working in Cardiff to remain part of the Mayo squad. Also the lad is an injury nightmare! Though McStay might say something as he would know, but I'd say he did not want to cross a rookie analyst.

You can't expect a Rossie to know everything that's happening in Bellaghy, Bunker.

Don't get me wrong I liked Dessie tonight! Just irked me with that. He's a good soul and he speaks from the heart! His comments look less scripted.

Ya, he was good on the Munster final coverage last night too. If you just had Dessie, Tomas, McStay, Whelan and a muzzle on Brolly that you take off for a 3 minute monologue before and after a match you'd have a decent panel for the Sunday Game. Sky benefit a lot from having Canavan doing his razzmatazz analysis separately to the panelists.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on July 19, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
I like McStay.Seems very much on the ball with his analysis.
Comes across as a very knowledge guy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on July 19, 2015, 11:47:43 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 19, 2015, 09:53:27 PM

Having Niblock as commentator has transformed their coverage. He's grown up with the GAA and played a bit so he knows what he's on about.
He's no Jimmy Smyth.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 19, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
I like McStay.Seems very much on the ball with his analysis.
Comes across as a very knowledge guy.

McStay goes to the edge of an argument, states his thinking and moves on without getting personal. A thing that Brolly does not do!

Spillane today talked about poets and Einstein. Scripted lines got from a book of quotes of famous people and shoved into analysis trying to sound educated and witty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on July 19, 2015, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 19, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
I like McStay.Seems very much on the ball with his analysis.
Comes across as a very knowledge guy.

McStay goes to the edge of an argument, states his thinking and moves on without getting personal. A thing that Brolly does not do!

Spillane today talked about poets and Einstein. Scripted lines got from a book of quotes of famous people and shoved into analysis trying to sound educated and witty.
I'm surprised Pat didn't reference Einstein's theory of evolution in an effort to go all academic on the development of tactics in Gaelic football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 20, 2015, 12:50:05 AM
Dessie Dolan was very good last night and tonight in fairness.
Doesn't try to be a smart ass and just gives an honest opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 20, 2015, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 19, 2015, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 19, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
I like McStay.Seems very much on the ball with his analysis.
Comes across as a very knowledge guy.

McStay goes to the edge of an argument, states his thinking and moves on without getting personal. A thing that Brolly does not do!

Spillane today talked about poets and Einstein. Scripted lines got from a book of quotes of famous people and shoved into analysis trying to sound educated and witty.
I'm surprised Pat didn't reference Einstein's theory of evolution in an effort to go all academic on the development of tactics in Gaelic football.

Off point but did Einstein have a theory on evolution?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sidney on July 20, 2015, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: WT4E on July 20, 2015, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 19, 2015, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 19, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
I like McStay.Seems very much on the ball with his analysis.
Comes across as a very knowledge guy.

McStay goes to the edge of an argument, states his thinking and moves on without getting personal. A thing that Brolly does not do!

Spillane today talked about poets and Einstein. Scripted lines got from a book of quotes of famous people and shoved into analysis trying to sound educated and witty.
I'm surprised Pat didn't reference Einstein's theory of evolution in an effort to go all academic on the development of tactics in Gaelic football.

Off point but did Einstein have a theory on evolution?
I can only go by what Mary Coughlan told me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 20, 2015, 01:16:32 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 20, 2015, 09:56:34 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 19, 2015, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 19, 2015, 11:54:02 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 19, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
I like McStay.Seems very much on the ball with his analysis.
Comes across as a very knowledge guy.

McStay goes to the edge of an argument, states his thinking and moves on without getting personal. A thing that Brolly does not do!

Spillane today talked about poets and Einstein. Scripted lines got from a book of quotes of famous people and shoved into analysis trying to sound educated and witty.
I'm surprised Pat didn't reference Einstein's theory of evolution in an effort to go all academic on the development of tactics in Gaelic football.

Off point but did Einstein have a theory on evolution?

No doubt, if he did, it would have bee a good one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: skeog on July 20, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
thought mc stay was pulling rank on dessie dolan about whats an elite footballer opionated over hyped is mr mc stay who has passed his sell by date time for young blood like dessie dolan etc to properly analyse games martin carney another idiot closely followed by posh talking ex army officer failure everywhere he went tommy carr who really takes the biscuit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 20, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
Quote from: skeog on July 20, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
thought mc stay was pulling rank on dessie dolan about whats an elite footballer opionated over hyped is mr mc stay who has passed his sell by date time for young blood like dessie dolan etc to properly analyse games martin carney another idiot closely followed by posh talking ex army officer failure everywhere he went tommy carr who really takes the biscuit

Ah now. Dessie seems to be a grand fellow but he didn t do Parsons or Horan justice winging it like that. Maybe skeog it doesn t matter to you if a pundit has his facts right or not? McStay did well not tp pull him up on it. Imagine what Brolly would have done to him.

McStay has a thorough knowledge of the game. I ve not seen him not having his homework done but I admit I may have missed something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 21, 2015, 12:49:45 AM
Quote from: Sidney on July 19, 2015, 11:47:43 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 19, 2015, 09:53:27 PM

Having Niblock as commentator has transformed their coverage. He's grown up with the GAA and played a bit so he knows what he's on about.
He's no Jimmy Smyth.

Thank feck.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SHEEDY on July 26, 2015, 09:51:15 PM
Time for johnny Glynn to get a regular stint on the Sunday game. Tells it as it is. ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 26, 2015, 09:59:04 PM
They need to get Des Cahill off the Sunday Game to f**k, shits himself if anything controversial is said and tries to shoot it down
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2015, 10:52:03 PM
Joe giving Paudie a hard time again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 26, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
Someone should tell Brolly he's not in a courtroom. He's a psychological bully.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aughafad on July 26, 2015, 10:54:23 PM
Joe Brolly needs to learn some manners and quit talking over people! he never says anything constructive and hasn't a clue tactically.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2015, 10:57:24 PM
He's in the zone tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nigel White on July 26, 2015, 10:58:01 PM
His regular use of words like shite and arse needs to be stamped out
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2015, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel White on July 26, 2015, 10:58:01 PM
His regular use of words like shite and arse needs to be stamped out


There is a connection between the 2 words all the same.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on July 26, 2015, 10:59:10 PM
Join battle X 4
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on July 26, 2015, 10:59:33 PM
"Vinny Corey and the boys would have the shite knocked out of Kildare after 20 seconds of that"  ;D

Joe is on form tonight alright!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 26, 2015, 11:01:00 PM
Brolly comes from that school where just because he says things with authority, therefore he's right. That's alright representing a client in court but it doesn't wash with punditry. His style is actually very irritating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on July 26, 2015, 11:19:33 PM
If he behaves like that in a courtroom surely he would piss the beak off and lose the case as a result. Don't think I would want him representing me!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 26, 2015, 11:36:51 PM
f**k Whelan is an unlikeable **** too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on July 26, 2015, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!

100% correct

Talking up Fermanagh though was a laugh. They have balls!

Whelan saying "UUUUGE" instead of huge is head wrecking!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Quote from: Gold on July 26, 2015, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!

100% correct

Talking up Fermanagh though was a laugh. They have balls!

Whelan saying "UUUUGE" instead of huge is head wrecking!

Ah he was just being respectful to a small county!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on July 26, 2015, 11:51:25 PM
Brolly hard to listen to.  As soon as he was done praising Fermanagh he goes on about the second tier championship again. Counties will not buy into it. Give me a quarter final against the the dubs in Croker than a second tier trophy any day!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2015, 11:55:31 PM
Their cause is forlorn he says but they have this here ( pointing to his heart ).

I think Joe would be a great man at representing people in court ?.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 27, 2015, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2015, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Nigel White on July 26, 2015, 10:58:01 PM
His regular use of words like shite and arse needs to be stamped out


There is a connection between the 2 words all the same.

Usually that is true, but Joe often manages to make the connection between shite and the other end.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on July 27, 2015, 12:56:45 AM
Quote from: Nigel White on July 26, 2015, 10:58:01 PM
His regular use of words like shite and arse needs to be stamped out

That's pretty mild for Joe.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on July 27, 2015, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: moysider on July 20, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
Quote from: skeog on July 20, 2015, 02:21:32 PM
thought mc stay was pulling rank on dessie dolan about whats an elite footballer opionated over hyped is mr mc stay who has passed his sell by date time for young blood like dessie dolan etc to properly analyse games martin carney another idiot closely followed by posh talking ex army officer failure everywhere he went tommy carr who really takes the biscuit

Ah now. Dessie seems to be a grand fellow but he didn t do Parsons or Horan justice winging it like that. Maybe skeog it doesn t matter to you if a pundit has his facts right or not? McStay did well not tp pull him up on it. Imagine what Brolly would have done to him.

McStay has a thorough knowledge of the game. I ve not seen him not having his homework done but I admit I may have missed something.

The Mallon brothers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on July 27, 2015, 04:43:52 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!

This will seem very minor but the six day thing is really annoying me. Because it was seven days. Seeing six days everywhere. Seven. Seven. SEVEN.

Agree with the overall point though. Seasons hinge on tiny things.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 27, 2015, 08:02:37 AM
Brolly looked like he'd been poured out of a bucket onto the Sunday Game couch last night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 27, 2015, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 27, 2015, 04:43:52 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!

This will seem very minor but the six day thing is really annoying me. Because it was seven days. Seeing six days everywhere. Seven. Seven. SEVEN.

Agree with the overall point though. Seasons hinge on tiny things.
The Munster final replay shouldn't have had a two break break.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 27, 2015, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 27, 2015, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 27, 2015, 04:43:52 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!

This will seem very minor but the six day thing is really annoying me. Because it was seven days. Seeing six days everywhere. Seven. Seven. SEVEN.

Agree with the overall point though. Seasons hinge on tiny things.
The Munster final replay shouldn't have had a two break break.

Yep!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 27, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 27, 2015, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 27, 2015, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 27, 2015, 04:43:52 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2015, 11:27:10 PM
Brolly called it 100% on Cork. They beat Kerry they are on the soft side of the draw and a QF v Westmeath/Fermanagh. They lose and they have 6 days to get their head together and have to Beat Kildare then Dublin then Mayo/Donegal(/Galway) and then more than likely Kerry are waiting for them again in the final. And all changed from a dodgy penalty!

This will seem very minor but the six day thing is really annoying me. Because it was seven days. Seeing six days everywhere. Seven. Seven. SEVEN.

Agree with the overall point though. Seasons hinge on tiny things.
The Munster final replay shouldn't have had a two break break.

Yep!

Both teams wanted it. Kerry probably want to avoid Dublin till the final but foolish from Cork.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on August 02, 2015, 10:01:40 PM
Cake...... More like an Amsterdam brownie !

Still can't see past Pat Short when he speaks, never mind the content
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: passedit on August 02, 2015, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: Bensars on August 02, 2015, 10:01:40 PM
Cake...... More like an Amsterdam brownie !

Still can't see past Pat Short when he speaks, never mind the content

I see Peter Griffen. Very disconcerting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

He won t be asked back though if he upsets the Catholic Church. Des nearly shit himself when he mentioned the Catholic Church.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 02, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

He won t be asked back though if he upsets the Catholic Church. Des nearly shit himself when he mentioned the Catholic Church.

What the Jesus did Cake say this time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 02, 2015, 10:09:05 PM
I thought I was watching the Late Late show for a minute there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 02, 2015, 10:32:15 PM
It's hard to take anything Curran says serious, I don't think even he knows himself what is going to come out of his own mouth next.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

He won t be asked back though if he upsets the Catholic Church. Des nearly shit himself when he mentioned the Catholic Church.

What the Jesus did Cake say this time.

He said the Church and Fianna Fáil have abandoned Roscommon GAA or something like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 02, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
Any mention of dem feckin triangles yet?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 02, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
Any mention of dem feckin triangles yet?

Yeah he put up a triangle to show Kerry's attacking play and the rest of them had a good laugh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:57:12 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on August 02, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
Any mention of dem feckin triangles yet?

Wha? What bleddy triangles?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on August 02, 2015, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

He won t be asked back though if he upsets the Catholic Church. Des nearly shit himself when he mentioned the Catholic Church.

What the Jesus did Cake say this time.

He couldn't articulate it but his point was probably that the Catholic church, FF and the GAA were the 3 dominant institutions in Ireland, the first two are nearly gone and the GAA could be likewise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 02, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

It is in it's arse.
The sooner they stop having this utter spoofer on trying to controversial, the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: upthehoops on August 02, 2015, 11:59:49 PM
He is an absolute spoofer,but I did think Whelan was going to have a stroke when one of the guys mentioned the professionalism in Dublin. Thought he was going to choke as he tried to interject . Dolan is a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 03, 2015, 12:03:34 AM
I quite like Dessie Dolan, he seems to know his stuff and talks a bit of sense. But what in under fcuk is Shane Curran doing on that show. I don't know him so he may me an intelligent bloke but his analysis is utterly cringeworthy and at this stage he is just embarrassing himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 03, 2015, 12:05:21 AM
Dessie is very good I have to say.
Could make the step-up to the big leagues.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 03, 2015, 12:11:39 AM
Dessie is very good indeed, balanced and fair, not a bad word or undertone in his arguments..........were is smug Tomas gone ? Only a matter of time before he was cast aside 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Still not sure what Curran's point was about FF and taigs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 03, 2015, 01:06:52 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 02, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

It is in it's arse.
The sooner they stop having this utter spoofer on trying to controversial, the better.
Fits in well with Brolly and Co. Has social media talking about him again which equals success in the eyes of RTE and they will probably give him a regular slot now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2015, 01:09:09 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 03, 2015, 01:06:52 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 02, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

It is in it's arse.
The sooner they stop having this utter spoofer on trying to controversial, the better.
Fits in well with Brolly and Co. Has social media talking about him again which equals success in the eyes of RTE and they will probably give him a regular slot now.

You better be right.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2015, 01:33:44 AM
Did anyone mention the brilliant tackling technique of the Kerry and Dublin players in the two games over the weekend?

Different class, and you could see the influence of Buckley with Kerry and the mma contact training that Dublin do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 03, 2015, 01:34:42 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2015, 01:33:44 AM
Did anyone mention the brilliant tackling technique of the Kerry and Dublin players in the two games over the weekend?

Different class, and you could see the influence of Buckley with Kerry and the mma contact training that Dublin do.

Dublin's defending is nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 03, 2015, 01:38:25 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Still not sure what Curran's point was about FF and taigs.

(http://www.finfacts.ie/artman/uploads/5/De_Valera_McQuaid_UCD_Belfield_June062014.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 03, 2015, 01:39:44 AM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 02, 2015, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

He won t be asked back though if he upsets the Catholic Church. Des nearly shit himself when he mentioned the Catholic Church.

What the Jesus did Cake say this time.

He couldn't articulate it but his point was probably that the Catholic church, FF and the GAA were the 3 dominant institutions in Ireland, the first two are nearly gone and the GAA could be likewise.

He wasn t allowed articulate it either but not sure he should have tried that analogy  ??? But Cahill and the others should have given him more line. That's what's annoying about these panels. Just when somebody says something interesting another cuts across with oul guff. Spillane is the world champion of reducing a decent discussion to chaff. Today McStay was making a good tactical analysis but Brolly had to get his oar in. It wasn t the Quigley and piazza soundbite but it was no more relevant either. Me, me, me, listen to me instead. He appreciated a Kerryman today taking down a Kildare man (a 30point game) and lambasted Sean Cavanagh 2 years ago for doing something similar in a tight game ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2015, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 03, 2015, 01:33:44 AM
Did anyone mention the brilliant tackling technique of the Kerry and Dublin players in the two games over the weekend?

Different class, and you could see the influence of Buckley with Kerry and the mma contact training that Dublin do.

I'd argue Tyrone are the best tacklers in the game currently. Was actually disappointed in the Dubs takling yesterday, Quigley in particular made himself room  on plenty of occassions. Still think Dubs will win it out though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2015, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 02, 2015, 11:28:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

It is in it's arse.
The sooner they stop having this utter spoofer on trying to controversial, the better.

Agree, he looks like a clown to be honest. It was cringeworthy having the others laughing about his stupid triangles as well I thought. He also had a triangle up of three Sligo defenders doing nothing as two Mayomen broke with the ball (this when he was criticising Sligo kickout strategies) ...  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on August 04, 2015, 10:00:25 PM
They must have been expecting a big season from Roscommon and went for the inside track by taking on a typical roscommon man.. Disappointment on two counts.
Sometimes they work ie Kerry/ Mayo and Dublin men ruling the roost there. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2015, 12:31:07 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 03, 2015, 01:39:44 AM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 02, 2015, 11:06:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 02, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 02, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 02, 2015, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: Schkite on August 02, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Cake is at it again here.

It's the truth tho!

He won t be asked back though if he upsets the Catholic Church. Des nearly shit himself when he mentioned the Catholic Church.

What the Jesus did Cake say this time.

He couldn't articulate it but his point was probably that the Catholic church, FF and the GAA were the 3 dominant institutions in Ireland, the first two are nearly gone and the GAA could be likewise.

He wasn t allowed articulate it either but not sure he should have tried that analogy  ??? But Cahill and the others should have given him more line. That's what's annoying about these panels. Just when somebody says something interesting another cuts across with oul guff. Spillane is the world champion of reducing a decent discussion to chaff. Today McStay was making a good tactical analysis but Brolly had to get his oar in. It wasn t the Quigley and piazza soundbite but it was no more relevant either. Me, me, me, listen to me instead. He appreciated a Kerryman today taking down a Kildare man (a 30point game) and lambasted Sean Cavanagh 2 years ago for doing something similar in a tight game ::)

I thought Curran's was a valid argument against complacency, even if he wasn't allowed to articulate it properly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: never kickt a ball on August 05, 2015, 12:54:27 AM
They had a discussion about Sligo's kick outs which was identical to Sky Sports analysis the day before.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BluestackBoy on August 05, 2015, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2015, 12:31:07 AM


I thought Curran's was a valid argument against complacency, even if he wasn't allowed to articulate it properly.

Curran couldn't articulate a point properly in a week.

A spoofer who thinks he's a comedian.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 05, 2015, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: never kickt a ball on August 05, 2015, 12:54:27 AM
They had a discussion about Sligo's kick outs which was identical to Sky Sports analysis the day before.

Yeah spotted that as well - utter jokeshop stuff
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2015, 06:01:49 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 05, 2015, 09:29:40 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2015, 12:31:07 AM


I thought Curran's was a valid argument against complacency, even if he wasn't allowed to articulate it properly.

Curran couldn't articulate a point properly in a week.

A spoofer who thinks he's a comedian.

In this case his point was valid, if not well made.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
What'll Cake make of McCann?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 09, 2015, 12:42:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
What'll Cake make of McCann?

Probably something like this:

(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn4.independent.ie%2Fincoming%2Farticle29136877.ece%2FALTERNATES%2Fh342%2Fkiss.jpg&f=1)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 09, 2015, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
What'll Cake make of McCann?

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu206/Hardyarse/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png) (http://s648.photobucket.com/user/Hardyarse/media/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png.html)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
Very good Hardy ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on August 09, 2015, 01:21:36 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 09, 2015, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
What'll Cake make of McCann?

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu206/Hardyarse/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png) (http://s648.photobucket.com/user/Hardyarse/media/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png.html)

hangover cleared up after watching that!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 01:29:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 09, 2015, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
What'll Cake make of McCann?

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu206/Hardyarse/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png) (http://s648.photobucket.com/user/Hardyarse/media/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png.html)

(http://i.giphy.com/dOJt6XZlQw8qQ.gif)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on August 09, 2015, 04:30:31 PM
That Hughes boy is a tough lad. He managed to take 3 Tyrone men out in that picture! ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 09, 2015, 07:48:45 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 09, 2015, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
What'll Cake make of McCann?

(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu206/Hardyarse/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png) (http://s648.photobucket.com/user/Hardyarse/media/TyroneTriangles_zpsjdyns4qx.png.html)

Was it a vertical pass that made mccann faint?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
Rory Gallagher, how fecking long has he been working on that Donegal accent?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 09, 2015, 10:43:13 PM
In fairness to Gallagher he's right on the border


Pete McGrath, you could listen to him all evening
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
Any footage of Cuchulainn's goal at Croke Park?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc

You're welcome.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 09, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
Any footage of Cuchulainn's goal at Croke Park?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc

You're welcome.

No he said CU ChULAINN ; not EOIN MULLIGAN.
Time to turn up the hearing aid.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 11:08:59 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 09, 2015, 10:57:43 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 09, 2015, 10:47:55 PM
Any footage of Cuchulainn's goal at Croke Park?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyeE9Xtksbc

You're welcome.

No he said CU ChULAINN ; not EOIN MULLIGAN.
Time to turn up the hearing aid.

Jesus, I was joking. Is it your period again ya bitch?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 09, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
I wonder did the lads who were redubbing the games for RTE knew the results already :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 09, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
I wonder did the lads who were redubbing the games for RTE knew the results already :P
"McCann has a had a great season". I think not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 11:13:55 PM
Tyrone getting a grilling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 09, 2015, 11:19:26 PM
Any Tyrone fans want Colm O'Rourkes address for to add to their Christmas Card list?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hereiam on August 09, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
So no man of the match award for the monaghan. Tyrone game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 09, 2015, 11:20:43 PM
Colm playing the headmaster role well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 11:21:28 PM
Des creaming himself with delight that Shane Lowry won the golf.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 09, 2015, 11:21:45 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on August 09, 2015, 11:20:14 PM
So no man of the match award for the monaghan. Tyrone game

There was no MoM for the Mayo/Donegal game either. They were covered live by Sky. So I suppose they hold the rites to that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 09, 2015, 11:22:14 PM
How many indiscretions did Ciaran Whelan come out and apologise for throughout his career?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 09, 2015, 11:22:39 PM
Shows Rory Beggan's dive. Doesn't mention it.

Biased.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 09, 2015, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 11:13:55 PM
Tyrone getting a grilling.

and rightly so.what utter scum they are,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StGallsGAA on August 09, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Ciaran Whelan's telling disclosure.... "We've all done stuff we're not too proud of"... King of the cowardly rabbit punch from behind!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aughafad on August 09, 2015, 11:27:26 PM
Is Des Cahill the worst TV presenter ever? I think he makes it up as he goes along; or maybe there's someone in his ear telling him every word to repeat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 11:28:20 PM
Phew. That wasn't too bad. Brolly and Spillane would've cut them to shreds.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 09, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 09, 2015, 11:22:39 PM
Shows Rory Beggan's dive. Doesn't mention it.

Biased.

Exactly. And we see the same sh!te on here from the likes of Stew. I can just see him demanding Monaghan fans to apologise now. Oh no wait, he hasn't!!  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on August 09, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on August 09, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Ciaran Whelan's telling disclosure.... "We've all done stuff we're not too proud of"... King of the cowardly rabbit punch from behind!

That's pretty much the only defence Tyrone have for their carry on yesterday. Cant disagree what Whelan said so shoot the messenger. I suppose O'Rourke and Pete McGrath had an agenda as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
So all Sky pundits agreed that Monaghan man should have been black carded instead of Meyler.  O'Rourke ye tr**p.  Missed Dessie Dolan tonight for a bit of realism.  All the more reason never to talk to these gobshites.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on August 09, 2015, 11:33:58 PM
And Sean is hit by McManus & Sean is criticised for going down easily???? Incredibly biased stuff & sadly the majority watching take this on as their opinion.

COR calling for the CCC to take action is some irony considering the antics the teams he played on got up to
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 09, 2015, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 09, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on August 09, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Ciaran Whelan's telling disclosure.... "We've all done stuff we're not too proud of"... King of the cowardly rabbit punch from behind!

That's pretty much the only defence Tyrone have for their carry on yesterday. Cant disagree what Whelan said so shoot the messenger. I suppose O'Rourke and Pete McGrath had an agenda as well.

I think you'll find Wee Pete didn't get involved in the disgraceful behaviour of the bitter analysts he shared a studio with tonight as the man has class.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Catch and Kick on August 09, 2015, 11:37:08 PM
Giddy up Band wagon Giddy up...
The only redeeming feature of the Sunday Game tonight was Pete McGrath.
I think the GAA public have had enough of the sensationalism of the usual crew.
The analysis of Tyrone (I'm not even an Ulster man) was so blinkered.
Tiernan mcCann made a show of himself but other than that, the other incidents were very much tit for tat - Monaghan did a fair bit of provoking too. And as for the black card for pulling an opponent down..... he was being taken out of it and made the mistake of putting his arms around his opponent. Could have been black card the other way. Some of the tackles on Sean Cavanagh were cynical out.

Think I'll give up watching that programme - so predictable. Surprised the GAA have tolerated the atrocious coverage of football for so long...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 11:37:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 09, 2015, 11:22:14 PM
How many indiscretions did Ciaran Whelan come out and apologise for throughout his career?
All manly stuff and boxes to boys heads. None of this soccer style diving and play acting you get from Cavanagh etc.  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: T Fearon on August 09, 2015, 11:38:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/429010670560873/videos/721841891277748/


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: red hander on August 09, 2015, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 09, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on August 09, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
Ciaran Whelan's telling disclosure.... "We've all done stuff we're not too proud of"... King of the cowardly rabbit punch from behind!

That's pretty much the only defence Tyrone have for their carry on yesterday. Cant disagree what Whelan said so shoot the messenger. I suppose O'Rourke and Pete McGrath had an agenda as well.

What's your defence for spitting, which you jackeens are famous for?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 09, 2015, 11:39:00 PM
Down easy, a stiff breeze would blow that man down, time Tyrone took the blinkers off, when all the counties say you got a problem, i think its time to take note and not defend the diving, cheating, dirt digs, mouthing, Whataboutery aint going to cut it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 09, 2015, 11:42:19 PM
Darren Hughes was by far the dirtiest lad playing in Croker yesterday, yet Monaghan are portrayed as the plucky wee lads who can do no wrong. Not a fan of Tyrone by any means, but the double standard is absolutely sickening.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: T Fearon on August 09, 2015, 11:42:58 PM
Tyrone are fast becoming the Millwall of the GAA with their "Nobody likes us,we don't care" chip on the shoulder
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 11:45:23 PM
The Monaghan and Tyrone players could learn from Michael Murphy. He took a box to the jaw, stood there and asked the umpire if he'd seen that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:49:27 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 11:37:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 09, 2015, 11:22:14 PM
How many indiscretions did Ciaran Whelan come out and apologise for throughout his career?
All manly stuff and boxes to boys heads. None of this soccer style diving and play acting you get from Cavanagh etc.  :P

Very manly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SRrCruHt64w (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SRrCruHt64w)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 09, 2015, 11:51:06 PM
RTE and thon dick Brolly paint Tyrone as the panto villans i dont think Mickey Harte, Tyrone, or Tyrone supporters give a rats arse what they say or think. What matters most is Tyrone are back on the right track and are once again awaiting a major scalp to get back to the big time again. Kerry in an All Ireland semi could be the launch pad for another group of talented young players as it was in 03.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 09, 2015, 11:58:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 11:45:23 PM
The Monaghan and Tyrone players could learn from Michael Murphy. He took a box to the jaw, stood there and asked the umpire if he'd seen that.

In fairness, I'm sure it shortened his journey back to Glenswilly (by 2 minutes) last night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 09, 2015, 11:59:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZZNGsD_PIs

That sums you lads up! couldnt get the one with Brian McGuigan lying down after McCartan through the ball at him,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rodman on August 10, 2015, 12:02:12 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 09, 2015, 11:42:58 PM
Tyrone are fast becoming the Millwall of the GAA with their "Nobody likes us,we don't care" chip on the shoulder

Not really, Tyrone are successful, Millwall aren't. Another stupid pointless contribution there, good man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maguire01 on August 10, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
So all Sky pundits agreed that Monaghan man should have been black carded instead of Meyler.  O'Rourke ye tr**p.  Missed Dessie Dolan tonight for a bit of realism.  All the more reason never to talk to these gobshites.
Was Dessie not the co-commentator on the game that said the black card was correct? I may be mistaken.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 10, 2015, 12:07:30 AM
Hopefully the CCCC weren't watching the end of the show tonite. They have been instructed to charge Tiernan by TSG panel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 10, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 10, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
So all Sky pundits agreed that Monaghan man should have been black carded instead of Meyler.  O'Rourke ye tr**p.  Missed Dessie Dolan tonight for a bit of realism.  All the more reason never to talk to these gobshites.
Was Dessie not the co-commentator on the game that said the black card was correct? I may be mistaken.

The Meyler black card really has me baffled. Hughes came into his line of movement with his arms up, nearly diving at him. Meyler reacted in an instinctive way and in no way deliberately hauled Hughes down. Had Hughes not moved towards Meyler the incident would not have occurred, therefore Meyler did not instigate or deliberately take the man out. Hughes' eyes were fixed on Meyler long after the ball had gone, the arms were up because he was checking the run and trying to show he wasn't dragging him down. Cynical and deliberate, from Hughes. The laughter on his face after the incident just about confirms his intentions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 10, 2015, 12:25:47 AM
I think us Tyrone supporters have to accept the reason Monaghan's indiscretions were completely overlooked on TSG is that we are continually and consistently involved in a large proportion of the niggly, cynical games in the championship. O'Rourke was right to highlight the Donegal senior and minor, U-21 final and yesterday. We are always going to be under the spotlight and will continue to be judged to be the guilty party, even in 50/50 stuff like yesterday.

I am really disappointed that our fantastic football for the first 60 minutes will be forgotten and the last ten will be the legacy. Also, to those calling out Whealen for his hypocrisy, you are wrong. He may have acted the bollox on occasion but I can't recall him taking a dive to get another man sent off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 10, 2015, 12:32:34 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 10, 2015, 12:25:47 AM
I think us Tyrone supporters have to accept the reason Monaghan's indiscretions were completely overlooked on TSG is that we are continually and consistently involved in a large proportion of the niggly, cynical games in the championship. O'Rourke was right to highlight the Donegal senior and minor, U-21 final and yesterday. We are always going to be under the spotlight and will continue to be judged to be the guilty party, even in 50/50 stuff like yesterday.

I am really disappointed that our fantastic football for the first 60 minutes will be forgotten and the last ten will be the legacy. Also, to those calling out Whealen for his hypocrisy, you are wrong. He may have acted the bollox on occasion but I can't recall him taking a dive to get another man sent off.

What happened in the U21 Final?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 10, 2015, 12:34:23 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 10, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 10, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
So all Sky pundits agreed that Monaghan man should have been black carded instead of Meyler.  O'Rourke ye tr**p.  Missed Dessie Dolan tonight for a bit of realism.  All the more reason never to talk to these gobshites.
Was Dessie not the co-commentator on the game that said the black card was correct? I may be mistaken.

The Meyler black card really has me baffled. Hughes came into his line of movement with his arms up, nearly diving at him. Meyler reacted in an instinctive way and in no way deliberately hauled Hughes down. Had Hughes not moved towards Meyler the incident would not have occurred, therefore Meyler did not instigate or deliberately take the man out. Hughes' eyes were fixed on Meyler long after the ball had gone, the arms were up because he was checking the run and trying to show he wasn't dragging him down. Cynical and deliberate, from Hughes. The laughter on his face after the incident just about confirms his intentions.

You've been at it all day here - trying to reverse engineer everything. Probably the only decision that went against you (and even at that there is no doubt that Meylor put his arm around him). Your team has rightly been called out for diving and cheating but you want to turn it into a "they were as bad as each other" argument. It won't work cause they weren't. It's a hollow victory made possible by soft frees, cheating and a bit of good football here and there in that order. I stress that order because the first point came from a dive - it set the tone for the day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 10, 2015, 12:38:12 AM
That was a scathing indictment  of tyrone's antics on the TSG. ,
O'Rourke had his work cut out but he managed to let loose in a coherent flow.
"The Cavanagh show in terms of diving"    "mcMahon getting involved", "Colm Kav getting involved", "there was an awful lot of cynical play by Tyrone" "McAliskey lying down feigning injury,  as soon as tyrone have the ball he up running into position"
"matty donnelly taking darren hughes out of it" ,  "justin McMahon pulls down the next man"
"ronan mc namee punches a player on the ground"
the presenter asks in a typical cowardly fashion   "were both sides not as guilty as each other?" ;D
   just as a solitary image of  Finlay's lunge (justice served cold) was shown on screen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 10, 2015, 12:40:42 AM
Mickey will love this stuff. It will be used to motivate the players and build up a siege mentality ahead of the Kerry game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 10, 2015, 12:41:11 AM
Quote from: straightred on August 10, 2015, 12:34:23 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 10, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 10, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
So all Sky pundits agreed that Monaghan man should have been black carded instead of Meyler.  O'Rourke ye tr**p.  Missed Dessie Dolan tonight for a bit of realism.  All the more reason never to talk to these gobshites.
Was Dessie not the co-commentator on the game that said the black card was correct? I may be mistaken.

The Meyler black card really has me baffled. Hughes came into his line of movement with his arms up, nearly diving at him. Meyler reacted in an instinctive way and in no way deliberately hauled Hughes down. Had Hughes not moved towards Meyler the incident would not have occurred, therefore Meyler did not instigate or deliberately take the man out. Hughes' eyes were fixed on Meyler long after the ball had gone, the arms were up because he was checking the run and trying to show he wasn't dragging him down. Cynical and deliberate, from Hughes. The laughter on his face after the incident just about confirms his intentions.

You've been at it all day here - trying to reverse engineer everything. Probably the only decision that went against you (and even at that there is no doubt that Meylor put his arm around him). Your team has rightly been called out for diving and cheating but you want to turn it into a "they were as bad as each other" argument. It won't work cause they weren't. It's a hollow victory made possible by soft frees, cheating and a bit of good football here and there in that order. I stress that order because the first point came from a dive - it set the tone for the day.

Explain reverse engineering. Is this something to do with those tractors that lad was singing about at half time?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on August 10, 2015, 12:42:13 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 10, 2015, 12:07:30 AM
Hopefully the CCCC weren't watching the end of the show tonite. They have been instructed to charge Tiernan by TSG panel.

The CCC usually go on holiday for August and September. They don't tend to at incident's this time of year incase a player an important game.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 10, 2015, 12:42:59 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 10, 2015, 12:38:12 AM
That was a scathing indictment  of tyrone's antics on the TSG. ,
O'Rourke had his work cut out but he managed to let loose in a coherent flow.
"The Cavanagh show in terms of diving"    "mcMahon getting involved", "Colm Kav getting involved", "there was an awful lot of cynical play by Tyrone" "McAliskey lying down feigning injury,  as soon as tyrone have the ball he up running into position"
"matty donnelly taking darren hughes out of it" ,  "justin McMahon pulls down the next man"
"ronan mc namee punches a player on the ground"
the presenter asks in a typical cowardly fashion   "were both sides not as guilty as each other?" ;D
   just as a solitary image of  Finlay's lunge (justice served cold) was shown on screen.

What is it about tyrone and this fixture. Cavanaghs carry v monaghan on  2 years saw the birth of the black card. I'd bet now we'll see a rule change on restrospective banning for diving. The sooner harte retires the better methinks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 10, 2015, 12:43:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 10, 2015, 12:41:11 AM
Quote from: straightred on August 10, 2015, 12:34:23 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 10, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 10, 2015, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 09, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
So all Sky pundits agreed that Monaghan man should have been black carded instead of Meyler.  O'Rourke ye tr**p.  Missed Dessie Dolan tonight for a bit of realism.  All the more reason never to talk to these gobshites.
Was Dessie not the co-commentator on the game that said the black card was correct? I may be mistaken.

The Meyler black card really has me baffled. Hughes came into his line of movement with his arms up, nearly diving at him. Meyler reacted in an instinctive way and in no way deliberately hauled Hughes down. Had Hughes not moved towards Meyler the incident would not have occurred, therefore Meyler did not instigate or deliberately take the man out. Hughes' eyes were fixed on Meyler long after the ball had gone, the arms were up because he was checking the run and trying to show he wasn't dragging him down. Cynical and deliberate, from Hughes. The laughter on his face after the incident just about confirms his intentions.

You've been at it all day here - trying to reverse engineer everything. Probably the only decision that went against you (and even at that there is no doubt that Meylor put his arm around him). Your team has rightly been called out for diving and cheating but you want to turn it into a "they were as bad as each other" argument. It won't work cause they weren't. It's a hollow victory made possible by soft frees, cheating and a bit of good football here and there in that order. I stress that order because the first point came from a dive - it set the tone for the day.

Explain reverse engineering. Is this something to do with those tractors that lad was singing about at half time?

More diversion - wouldn't expect anything else from you
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
Interesting that O'Rourke says refs are corrupt and might not award frees because of their perception of what happened in previous games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: north down on August 10, 2015, 12:48:37 AM
Fair play to Pete McGrath on TSG tonight for not buying into the RTE bias against the Tyrone team. When Kerry, the Dubs, Meath etc dish out the dirt, rugby tackle, dive or feign injury it's good hard football or cuteness in knowing how to close out the game - double standards or what! Us boys from Ulster are allowed to play but we are not expected or supposed to win.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redcard on August 10, 2015, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
Interesting that O'Rourke says refs are corrupt and might not award frees because of their perception of what happened in previous games.

I think he was instructing them or at the very least hoping they would. There was some bile in his comments, especially towards the Tyrone management.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 10, 2015, 12:52:34 AM
Quote from: north down on August 10, 2015, 12:48:37 AM
Fair play to Pete McGrath on TSG tonight for not buying into the RTE bias against the Tyrone team. When Kerry, the Dubs, Meath etc dish out the dirt, rugby tackle, dive or feign injury it's good hard football or cuteness in knowing how to close out the game - double standards or what! Us boys from Ulster are allowed to play but we are not expected or supposed to win.

Bullsh*t. If it was just about closing out the game then yes - the above is true. However the cheating was constant from the 1st minute to the last. We now have to suffer and endure another game that involves tyrone this year - that's the real tragedy of all this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on August 10, 2015, 01:10:08 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 10, 2015, 12:25:47 AM
I think us Tyrone supporters have to accept the reason Monaghan's indiscretions were completely overlooked on TSG is that we are continually and consistently involved in a large proportion of the niggly, cynical games in the championship. O'Rourke was right to highlight the Donegal senior and minor, U-21 final and yesterday. We are always going to be under the spotlight and will continue to be judged to be the guilty party, even in 50/50 stuff like yesterday.

I am really disappointed that our fantastic football for the first 60 minutes will be forgotten and the last ten will be the legacy. Also, to those calling out Whealen for his hypocrisy, you are wrong. He may have acted the bollox on occasion but I can't recall him taking a dive to get another man sent off.

I have to say I agree with you here. Tyrone could easily be making a rod for their own back. As an Armagh man I always have the feeling that Armagh get the wrong end of the media analysis. For a few years Tyrone , I felt, got it a bit easier because of the goodwill following the tragic incidents that followed them. That goodwill has well and truly been eroded. The problem is that referees are human and I am sure watch shows like the Sunday game. All it takes is for the referee to hesitate over a decision because he has seen it highlighted that this or that player dives. It could cost Tyrone in the long run.

The Meylor black card is interesting. I only saw it on TV tonight but my initial reaction was that Hughes stood his ground with arms outstretched and that Meylor changed direction to run into him. Technically I think that is a black card. However, I feel it was harsh in that it was more like McManus brushing into Cavanagh near the end than a deliberate attempt to block a run.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 01:13:14 AM
Quote from: redcard on August 10, 2015, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
Interesting that O'Rourke says refs are corrupt and might not award frees because of their perception of what happened in previous games.

I think he was instructing them or at the very least hoping they would. There was some bile in his comments, especially towards the Tyrone management.

He still hasn't got the taste of hat out of his mouth since 2003


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 01:15:00 AM
Look, Tyrone are the Bad Guys! But there is no smoke without fire. This is your style of play. You play on the edge and show discipline when dragging opposing teams into such ways and losing focus. It's a psychological way of getting the opposition to be more interested in getting one back cynically rather than concentrating on playing football and winning the game. It works (most of the time) it's within the (slender) laws of the game and Tyrone will use it until the laws change, or teams get cute and learn to cope (in an equally disciplined way).

The thing is, we in a way admire you getting to an AI semi final. You still have to score more points than you concede. But don't expect anyone to like you or want you to win. It goes against the grain. But don't worry about not being liked because not being liked more than often means you are usually winning (and not a soft touch). It's when you are liked (or pitied) you are in real trouble.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 10, 2015, 01:22:09 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 01:15:00 AM
Look, Tyrone are the Bad Guys! But there is no smoke without fire. This is your style of play. You play on the edge and show discipline when dragging opposing teams into such ways and losing focus. It's a psychological way of getting the opposition to be more interested in getting one back cynically rather than concentrating on playing football and winning the game. It works (most of the time) it's within the (slender) laws of the game and Tyrone will use it until the laws change, or teams get cute and learn to cope (in an equally disciplined way).

The thing is, we in a way admire you getting to an AI semi final. You still have to score more points than you concede. But don't expect anyone to like you or want you to win. It goes against the grain. But don't worry about not being liked because not being liked more than often means you are usually winning (and not a soft touch). It's when you are liked (or pitied) you are in real trouble.

A big kiss to you there sir, bring it on! ;) (And no, I'm not gay, though up the gays!)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 01:51:59 AM
All playing into Tyrone's hands! They will love being slated and use it as motivation in the semi final. But can they intimidate the Kingdom?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 10, 2015, 02:23:36 AM
they deserve to be slated .knackers with three all-Irelands,Kerry won more in a month.and play the game the right way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 03:33:01 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 11:37:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 09, 2015, 11:22:14 PM
How many indiscretions did Ciaran Whelan come out and apologise for throughout his career?
All manly stuff and boxes to boys heads. None of this soccer style diving and play acting you get from Cavanagh etc.  :P

So punching boys is ahead of diving now? Not according to the rules or the law.

Him and Cavanagh collided in 08 and Sean landed him on his arse, caused him to retreat into his shell where he remained until he poked it out again on the Sunday game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Windmill abu on August 10, 2015, 04:32:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
Interesting that O'Rourke says refs are corrupt and might not award frees because of their perception of what happened in previous games.

GAA referees at all levels deserve our respect and trust that they do their job as fairly as possible.

Colm O'Rourke's suggestion that they would cheat by not awarding frees for fouls in major games, not only questions their integrity but also sets a poor example to the youth who will show less respect to officials as they can no longer be trusted to do their jobs fairly according to the Sunday game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyroneman on August 10, 2015, 07:02:18 AM
The refusal to speak to RTE means we have little opportunity to rebut much of what is being said and the moral guardians of the game like Brolly, O'Rourke and Whelan can more or less say what they want with impunity.

By all means if Tyrone do something untoward discuss it but at least have the moral courage to add some context.

Sean Cav was dragged and hauled off the ball all over the shop on Sat. Was this mentioned? O'Rourke almost looked bereft when the clip of Finley punching Sean was shown. Couldn't brush over it quick enough.

Ask yourself what is the logic in Meyler hauling someone down when Tyrone have the ball and he is trying to join the attack.

And it's an absolute disgrace that panelists can now try and set agendas for referees and the disciplinary committee.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on August 10, 2015, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on August 10, 2015, 04:32:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
Interesting that O'Rourke says refs are corrupt and might not award frees because of their perception of what happened in previous games.

GAA referees at all levels deserve our respect and trust that they do their job as fairly as possible.

Colm O'Rourke's suggestion that they would cheat by not awarding frees for fouls in major games, not only questions their integrity but also sets a poor example to the youth who will show less respect to officials as they can no longer be trusted to do their jobs fairly according to the Sunday game.

That is codswallop.

All that O'Rourke was suggesting is that referees will see and hear all the talk of Tyrone diving and will question themselves if a free is really a free or are they being conned when refereeing Tyrone. It is human nature. It is not questioning their integrity.

If you ever read Oisin McConviles's book you can see him say Armagh got a reputation of being overly physical in 2003. This affected the way they played in the All Ireland final. For me it also meant that Tyrone got more 50:50 decisions. Do I think Brian White did not referee with integrity. Definitely not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 10, 2015, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2015, 07:02:18 AM
And it's an absolute disgrace that panelists can now try and set agendas for referees and the disciplinary committee.

What's a disgrace is the ongoing and continual behaviour of the Tyrone players year in year out all presided over by the same man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 10, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 09, 2015, 11:37:31 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 09, 2015, 11:22:14 PM
How many indiscretions did Ciaran Whelan come out and apologise for throughout his career?
All manly stuff and boxes to boys heads. None of this soccer style diving and play acting you get from Cavanagh etc.  :P
It's getting to the stage now where the next time there is a dive in soccer it will be called a Gaelic Football style dive....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: five points on August 10, 2015, 09:53:35 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 10, 2015, 09:38:27 AM
It's getting to the stage now where the next time there is a dive in soccer it will be called a Gaelic Football style dive....

If that happens, pay no heed to to the knockers, it's nothing new.

When Kevin Moran was sent off (wrongly) in the 1985 FA Cup, one of the tabloids (I think the Mirror) attacked him saying it was a "typical Gaelic Football tackle".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Do Tyrone people ever think there's no smoke without fire?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 10, 2015, 10:08:09 AM
Quote from: heffo on August 10, 2015, 08:56:21 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 10, 2015, 07:02:18 AM
And it's an absolute disgrace that panelists can now try and set agendas for referees and the disciplinary committee.

What's a disgrace is the ongoing and continual behaviour of the Tyrone players year in year out all presided over by the same man.

Agreed. Too much focus on the McCann dive as well. The game was over by then and this didn't matter. What did matter was all the soft frees from the 1st minute to the last.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 10, 2015, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Do Tyrone people ever think there's no smoke without fire?
Obviously not.
Quite frankly their team's antics are totally disgusting and it's time GAA HQ charged them with bringing the game into disrepute.
Last Saturday was a new low even for them.
Sickening!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 10, 2015, 11:04:51 AM
Quote from: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Do Tyrone people ever think there's no smoke without fire?
Obviously not.
Quite frankly their team's antics are totally disgusting and it's time GAA HQ charged them with bringing the game into disrepute.
Last Saturday was a new low even for them.
Sickening!!!

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on August 10, 2015, 12:10:27 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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Cracker
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 12:18:27 PM
Big Aidan was practising his hero Sean cavanagh art of diving.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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Good catch.

Clear punch with the right hand followed by the big Sean, 'I am innocent' hands in the air.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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Good catch.

Clear punch with the right hand followed by the big Sean, 'I am innocent' hands in the air.

Sweep, Sweep.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on August 10, 2015, 12:51:19 PM
The only thing wrong with what was said on the Sunday Game last night is that they let Monaghan off lightly too, but I kind of see the reasoning behind that.
They weren't trying to excuse Monaghan, rather they seemed to be trying to highlight that it seems to be an ingrained way of playing by Tyrone teams from minor, U21 and into Senior.
It's hard to argue against that given this year alone.

Yes other teams do it to and extent, but the level to which Tyrone do it does warrant extra attention from the punditry and media IMO.

I personally dont like the sly digs or sledging as its called which goes on off the ball, but I really cannot abide the lying down pretending to be dying carry on in a deliberate attempt to get a man sent off.
There are only a couple of valid reasons to partake in this sort of behaviour,
a) a complete lack of confidence in your own ability vs the ability of the opposition so you do anything you can to either get the other player sent off/injured/wound up to an extent they cant play.
b) a complete lack of respect towards other players who put as much time and effort into the game as anyone else and so you treat them like sh*t to scrape off your boot

I think in Tyrone, its a bit of both when it comes to these county teams.
It has to be said though, I know quite a few Tyronnies who I'd class as out and out GAA people and they dont like this carry on either and would never try to justify it. But there are a few who seem to think its all fair game to cheat and tr**p your way through other teams as they're not the only ones who do it.

There are so many things wrong in the GAA at present, the ability of teams and individuals to get away with behaving like that on a pitch, the inconsistency and ineptitude of the vast majority of intercounty referees, the complete disregard that Croke Park have for the frustration of supporters/teams with regards to refereeing and the unbalanced championship setup that it's becoming more and more difficult to see the positives.
I would like to see more action taken by the powers that be against teams/players who engage in this play acting/diving/cheating. I dont think it'll happen though.

As for the Sunday game itself, the pundits are stating their opinion. I've not problems with that even when I dont agree. I'd rather have them free to state what they think as opposed to the normal cliche type analysis you tend to get on the Sky broadcasts or the MOTD. For me, they are a better reflection of what the grass roots of the GAA think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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Good catch.

Clear punch with the right hand followed by the big Sean, 'I am innocent' hands in the air.
No surprise. Deflecting evidence with a sarcastic answer.

The Irish education has a lot to answer for. It has let its population down for decades.

Says the man who wrote this:

Quote from: Hospital Road on August 02, 2015, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 02, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 02, 2015, 09:13:45 PM
If my county were serious contenders for the All Ireland and the defence conceded 1-7 to a pizza munching fat arse, I know what I would worry about more.

In fairness I think you'll agree that maybe the goal should not have stood.
Ive looked at it several times. Quigley stood his ground, Cluxton with ball charged straight into Quigley, Cluxton bounces off lardarse and goes back with ball behind goal line. A fair goal I think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: CD on August 10, 2015, 01:17:25 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 01:31:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 12:51:51 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 12:39:56 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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Good catch.

Clear punch with the right hand followed by the big Sean, 'I am innocent' hands in the air.
No surprise. Deflecting evidence with a sarcastic answer.

The Irish education has a lot to answer for. It has let its population down for decades.

Says the man who wrote this:

Quote from: Hospital Road on August 02, 2015, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 02, 2015, 09:33:08 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 02, 2015, 09:13:45 PM
If my county were serious contenders for the All Ireland and the defence conceded 1-7 to a pizza munching fat arse, I know what I would worry about more.

In fairness I think you'll agree that maybe the goal should not have stood.
Ive looked at it several times. Quigley stood his ground, Cluxton with ball charged straight into Quigley, Cluxton bounces off lardarse and goes back with ball behind goal line. A fair goal I think.
Thanks for proving me right. No objective analysis of what I've said, just a half assed attempt to smear me.

The lack of ability most Irish people have to be objective and engage in critical thinking is something that needs to be looked at.

How is re-posting one of your own posts, an attempt to smear you? 

Unless you are smearing yourself... ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
 ;)

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 10, 2015, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Do Tyrone people ever think there's no smoke without fire?

they would know all about smoke and fire in tyrone  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 10, 2015, 03:10:04 PM
I remember Martin Breheny had an awful bee in his bonnet (what's new, sez you) about how he often couldn't vote for Colm O'Rourke to win an All-Star because he would be disqualified having been sent off at some point during the season. It was, in fairness, a daft rule, but it never seemed to knock Breheny out of his stride (when did it ever, sez you) that Colm might be making some contribution towards his misfortune.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on August 10, 2015, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 10, 2015, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Do Tyrone people ever think there's no smoke without fire?

they would know all about smoke and fire in tyrone  ;)

Surely the PaddyOSlab account is a piss take?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on August 10, 2015, 12:51:19 PM
The only thing wrong with what was said on the Sunday Game last night is that they let Monaghan off lightly too, but I kind of see the reasoning behind that.
They weren't trying to excuse Monaghan, rather they seemed to be trying to highlight that it seems to be an ingrained way of playing by Tyrone teams from minor, U21 and into Senior.
It's hard to argue against that given this year alone.

Yes other teams do it to and extent, but the level to which Tyrone do it does warrant extra attention from the punditry and media IMO.

I personally dont like the sly digs or sledging as its called which goes on off the ball, but I really cannot abide the lying down pretending to be dying carry on in a deliberate attempt to get a man sent off.
There are only a couple of valid reasons to partake in this sort of behaviour,
a) a complete lack of confidence in your own ability vs the ability of the opposition so you do anything you can to either get the other player sent off/injured/wound up to an extent they cant play.
b) a complete lack of respect towards other players who put as much time and effort into the game as anyone else and so you treat them like sh*t to scrape off your boot

I think in Tyrone, its a bit of both when it comes to these county teams.
It has to be said though, I know quite a few Tyronnies who I'd class as out and out GAA people and they dont like this carry on either and would never try to justify it. But there are a few who seem to think its all fair game to cheat and tr**p your way through other teams as they're not the only ones who do it.

There are so many things wrong in the GAA at present, the ability of teams and individuals to get away with behaving like that on a pitch, the inconsistency and ineptitude of the vast majority of intercounty referees, the complete disregard that Croke Park have for the frustration of supporters/teams with regards to refereeing and the unbalanced championship setup that it's becoming more and more difficult to see the positives.
I would like to see more action taken by the powers that be against teams/players who engage in this play acting/diving/cheating. I dont think it'll happen though.

As for the Sunday game itself, the pundits are stating their opinion. I've not problems with that even when I dont agree. I'd rather have them free to state what they think as opposed to the normal cliche type analysis you tend to get on the Sky broadcasts or the MOTD. For me, they are a better reflection of what the grass roots of the GAA think.

why not though? Surely it can be changed. Those in power will be fans of the game and will almost certainly not like this aspect of the game. Throw the book at McCann now and whoever else dives / cheats for the remainder of the season. Bring a specific rule in then that encompasses diving / cheating / rolling around the ground like a big man whore .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:52:29 PMwhy not though? Surely it can be changed. Those in power will be fans of the game and will almost certainly not like this aspect of the game. Throw the book at McCann now and whoever else dives / cheats for the remainder of the season. Bring a specific rule in then that encompasses diving / cheating / rolling around the ground like a big man whore .

Do you know how the rule book works in the GAA?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:52:29 PMwhy not though? Surely it can be changed. Those in power will be fans of the game and will almost certainly not like this aspect of the game. Throw the book at McCann now and whoever else dives / cheats for the remainder of the season. Bring a specific rule in then that encompasses diving / cheating / rolling around the ground like a big man whore .

Do you know how the rule book works in the GAA?

motion, congress, votes etc etc
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
and how many of those happen between now and the end of the season?

Fact is - there's not much they can do with regards to a ban until the rule is changed at congress next year
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:52:29 PMwhy not though? Surely it can be changed. Those in power will be fans of the game and will almost certainly not like this aspect of the game. Throw the book at McCann now and whoever else dives / cheats for the remainder of the season. Bring a specific rule in then that encompasses diving / cheating / rolling around the ground like a big man whore .

Do you know how the rule book works in the GAA?

Sorry to go off on a tangent but....

When David Clarke made a save in the first half, he dived and while saving the shot touched the ball on the ground outside the area. A free was given, which, although harsh (what goalkeeper is not going to dive in case he touches the ball on the ground?), it was a correct decision according to the rules.

A fella near me started shouting that Clarke should be given a yellow card 'at least!'. When someone beside him asked why, he said because it was a goal-scoring opportunity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
and how many of those happen between now and the end of the season?

Fact is - there's not much they can do with regards to a ban until the rule is changed at congress next year

bringing the game into disrepute? 1 match ban. This can happen now. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 10, 2015, 04:00:07 PM
They brought in a rule there lately to stamp out all the cynical tackles and 3rd man tackles.

Needless to say it was a blistering success last Saturday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
and how many of those happen between now and the end of the season?

Fact is - there's not much they can do with regards to a ban until the rule is changed at congress next year

bringing the game into disrepute? 1 match ban. This can happen now.

Where's this in the rule book? Any examples of it happening
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 04:03:03 PM
Familiarity breeds contempt, they say.

Replays are probably the biggest source of rows. Then come annual fixtures, such as Cork and Kerry and some of the better Ulster teams who meet frequently.

Even this problem might improve with a better structure.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 04:01:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
and how many of those happen between now and the end of the season?

Fact is - there's not much they can do with regards to a ban until the rule is changed at congress next year

bringing the game into disrepute? 1 match ban. This can happen now.

Where's this in the rule book? Any examples of it happening

are you saying there is no rule or reg covering 'bringing the game into disrepute'? I thought this was catered for . Why do panelists / pundits talk about it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
The old saying, 'It takes two to tango', certainly applies here.
As it has on numerous occasions in the last few years.
It's funny how one of the two is nearly always Tyrone though.
Some men to tango.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 04:13:11 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on August 10, 2015, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 10, 2015, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 09:59:40 AM
Do Tyrone people ever think there's no smoke without fire?

they would know all about smoke and fire in tyrone  ;)

Surely the PaddyOSlab account is a piss take?

Dammit! My cover is blown!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 10, 2015, 04:21:45 PM
The following extracts are taken from Colm O'Rourke 'The Final Whistle'.  These are his own words....

"If a back was giving me a lot of hassle and there was nothing being done about it I often let him go out in front for the ball and, just at the right moment,I'd give him an unmerciful box behind the ear.  Of course it is a cowardly act and you run the risk of getting one in return or starting a stand up fight, but extreme measures are sometimes needed to allow the game to be played in the way it is supposed to be. For the last few years, being involved with the Sunday Game on RTE has been a major disadvantage in that a few people who needed to be sorted-out badly got away with doing things that one would normally not accept but, being involved with television meant I had to just put up with it. (Page 154)

" ... in a League play-off against Down in '93 I gave DJ Kane a box in the mouth which drew some blood and he wondered out loud for the rest of the match whether the incident would be on television that night or in the Sunday Tribune the following Sunday. Afterwards, when we met in the hotel, DJ was still not too happy but when I told him I had been waiting for a long time to give him one, and to make it all the better he would never get me back, he certainly did not see the funny side of it. The following year Meath met Down in the League quarter-final and coming up to the game I was a bit worried that DJ might remember the previous year and exact retribution but he was away for the match and I was saved. DJ was quite right too! The incident never appeared on television, but it was not something to boast about in the Tribune."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: outside-the-wire on August 10, 2015, 04:26:11 PM
Tell me this. When Cavanagh plays for his club what do opposing clubs think of his antics?? Surely there's an uproar every time he dives. But when its with the county you love it! So, does he stay in his feet when you are playing against him at club level?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on August 10, 2015, 04:21:45 PM
The following extracts are taken from Colm O'Rourke 'The Final Whistle'.  These are his own words....

"If a back was giving me a lot of hassle and there was nothing being done about it I often let him go out in front for the ball and, just at the right moment,I'd give him an unmerciful box behind the ear.  Of course it is a cowardly act and you run the risk of getting one in return or starting a stand up fight, but extreme measures are sometimes needed to allow the game to be played in the way it is supposed to be. For the last few years, being involved with the Sunday Game on RTE has been a major disadvantage in that a few people who needed to be sorted-out badly got away with doing things that one would normally not accept but, being involved with television meant I had to just put up with it. (Page 154)

" ... in a League play-off against Down in '93 I gave DJ Kane a box in the mouth which drew some blood and he wondered out loud for the rest of the match whether the incident would be on television that night or in the Sunday Tribune the following Sunday. Afterwards, when we met in the hotel, DJ was still not too happy but when I told him I had been waiting for a long time to give him one, and to make it all the better he would never get me back, he certainly did not see the funny side of it. The following year Meath met Down in the League quarter-final and coming up to the game I was a bit worried that DJ might remember the previous year and exact retribution but he was away for the match and I was saved. DJ was quite right too! The incident never appeared on television, but it was not something to boast about in the Tribune."

any of the real classy stuff like diving or repeatedly feigning injuries for minutes on end mentioned in the book?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 10, 2015, 04:48:25 PM
The image of a smug Colm alongside his own words was more entertaining. More manipulative, but more entertaining.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 04:51:22 PM
Did Colm really say that refs were corrupt last night?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
You give belts and you take belts.
This has always been the unspoken code.
There is no hypocrisy in what Colm is saying now versus how he played the game himself, despite the attempted spin that's been put on it here.
Eugene McGee wrote about it again today as well.
I'm starting to think Tyrone people simply don't get the concept of manliness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 10, 2015, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
You give belts and you take belts.
This has always been the unspoken code.
There is no hypocrisy in what Colm is saying now versus how he played the game himself, despite the attempted spin that's been put on it here.
Eugene McGee wrote about it again today as well.
I'm starting to think Tyrone people simply don't get the concept of manliness.

I find it hard to see Colm saying as much on The Sunday Game. Your point is well made though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 04:10:58 PMare you saying there is no rule or reg covering 'bringing the game into disrepute'? I thought this was catered for . Why do panelists / pundits talk about it?

The closest thing I can find is this - the rules it refers to are the use of sectarian/racist language against a player

(http://i.imgur.com/WSoHm8M.png)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 05:03:37 PM
I watched O`Rourke play many times, he was probably one of the toughest lads ever to come out of meath, nearly always come out tops in a physical confrontation as he was so strong, he could give it and take it, and didn't lie down like a pussy after getting a hit and didnt try to get men sent off. Keith Barr knocked him clear out one year and he came back on concussed and won Meath the game. hard to compare him to a bunch of diving faking cheats.And if you though he was tough what would the current Tyrone team have made of Gerry MC, the Lyons brothers and the Liam harnan
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 10, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
The Liam Harnan. Was that a title, like The Undertaker? I'm surprised Kevin Foley wasn't called Paul Bearer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LeoMc on August 10, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 10, 2015, 03:52:29 PMwhy not though? Surely it can be changed. Those in power will be fans of the game and will almost certainly not like this aspect of the game. Throw the book at McCann now and whoever else dives / cheats for the remainder of the season. Bring a specific rule in then that encompasses diving / cheating / rolling around the ground like a big man whore .

Do you know how the rule book works in the GAA?

Sorry to go off on a tangent but....

When David Clarke made a save in the first half, he dived and while saving the shot touched the ball on the ground outside the area. A free was given, which, although harsh (what goalkeeper is not going to dive in case he touches the ball on the ground?), it was a correct decision according to the rules.

A fella near me started shouting that Clarke should be given a yellow card 'at least!'. When someone beside him asked why, he said because it was a goal-scoring opportunity.
Ye get the same boys calling for penalties because of a "leg block" when the keeper spreads himself and the ball hits him.
Only for the opposition though!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
How is re-posting one of your own posts, an attempt to smear you? 

Unless you are smearing yourself... ;D ;D
Take your time reading this.

I wrote that in the Dublin v Fermanagh game thread. It was an objective post. Some might not agree, but no one has tried to argue.

Your reposting of it is an attempt to twist what I have said.

You couldn't respond with a measured post. Like most people in the south, I don't see much ability in you for critical thinking in your posts. That is why I mentioned the Irish education system.

Living in your own ignorance might amuse you with your smilies, but it belies your lack of freethinking.

Explain please, with your superior education and magnificent critical thinking, and this time in a measured post, unlike your last ad hominem, how me re-posting word for word your post was an attempt to 'twist' what you said?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 05:51:23 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
You give belts and you take belts.
This has always been the unspoken code.
There is no hypocrisy in what Colm is saying now versus how he played the game himself, despite the attempted spin that's been put on it here.
Eugene McGee wrote about it again today as well.
I'm starting to think Tyrone people simply don't get the concept of manliness.
I would much rather take the Tyrone concept of manliness if the Meath concept is to behave like a sc**bag outside of a nightclub at 2am on a Sunday morning. Acts like McCanns is not classy but at least the man sinned won't be going to A&E.

More's the pity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 05:51:23 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
You give belts and you take belts.
This has always been the unspoken code.
There is no hypocrisy in what Colm is saying now versus how he played the game himself, despite the attempted spin that's been put on it here.
Eugene McGee wrote about it again today as well.
I'm starting to think Tyrone people simply don't get the concept of manliness.
I would much rather take the Tyrone concept of manliness if the Meath concept is to behave like a sc**bag outside of a nightclub at 2am on a Sunday morning. Acts like McCanns is not classy but at least the man sinned won't be going to A&E.

More's the pity.

But what if he is critical...

...thinking?  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 10, 2015, 05:59:08 PM
Yea I find that O'Rourke pic and caption embarrassing. That's not what he was giving off about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on August 10, 2015, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 04:51:22 PM
Did Colm really say that refs were corrupt last night?
What he said was Tyrone and particularly the Cavanagh brothers are getting a reputation for diving and one of these days it will come back to haunt them as one of these days a ref will see Cavanagh go down after a foul and not award a free as he might think there goes your man Cavanagh diving again and he or Tyrone won't get the benefit of the doubt from the ref
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:19:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 05:31:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
How is re-posting one of your own posts, an attempt to smear you? 

Unless you are smearing yourself... ;D ;D
Take your time reading this.

I wrote that in the Dublin v Fermanagh game thread. It was an objective post. Some might not agree, but no one has tried to argue.

Your reposting of it is an attempt to twist what I have said.

You couldn't respond with a measured post. Like most people in the south, I don't see much ability in you for critical thinking in your posts. That is why I mentioned the Irish education system.

Living in your own ignorance might amuse you with your smilies, but it belies your lack of freethinking.

Explain please, with your superior education and magnificent critical thinking, and this time in a measured post, unlike your last ad hominem, how me re-posting word for word your post was an attempt to 'twist' what you said?
And there you go again. Sarcasm is no substitute for measured analysis nor is firing out terms like 'ad hominem' like it is going out of fashion. I've already answered your question so there's no need for me to repeat it. If you're smart then you know when not to say anything is as important as when not to.

You haven't answered anything.

You spouted some random insults and then ran away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
You haven't answered anything.

You spouted some random insults and then ran away.
They're only insults if you take them that way. That's not my problem.

Well played you got me.

Sidney, O'Neill or OmaghJoe?

That is the question.........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
You give belts and you take belts.
This has always been the unspoken code.
There is no hypocrisy in what Colm is saying now versus how he played the game himself, despite the attempted spin that's been put on it here.
Eugene McGee wrote about it again today as well.
I'm starting to think Tyrone people simply don't get the concept of manliness.

Good god if there is one person who has no notion what is going on it's McGee. Has his magical Black card (that he was raving about after the Mayo/Kerry replay last year) not sorted this all out?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:55:37 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:32:36 PM
You haven't answered anything.

You spouted some random insults and then ran away.
They're only insults if you take them that way. That's not my problem.

Well played you got me.

Sidney, O'Neill or OmaghJoe?

That is the question.........
Still waiting on you to find a quote where I am supposed to proclaimed myself the 'king of critical thinking'.

Don't run away.

Why would I quote you again? The last time I quoted you, that was 'an attempt to twist your words'.

Anyway, you are merely a WUM.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:55:37 PM
Anyway, you are merely a WUM.
The words of a beaten man. Sarcasm and hyperbole will only take you so far in life.

Still waiting on that 'king of' quote by the way.

I've already answered your question so there's no need for me to repeat it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 06:55:37 PM
Anyway, you are merely a WUM.
The words of a beaten man. Sarcasm and hyperbole will only take you so far in life.

Still waiting on that 'king of' quote by the way.

I've already answered your question so there's no need for me to repeat it.
More sarcasm from muppet!

Anyway, still waiting on that 'king of' quote by the way.

Sarcasm? Really? You didn't recognise it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 06:19:55 PM
I've already answered your question so there's no need for me to repeat it.

C'mon, your wumming is beginning to slip badly. Pity you had started so well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 10, 2015, 06:46:50 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 10, 2015, 04:53:23 PM
You give belts and you take belts.
This has always been the unspoken code.
There is no hypocrisy in what Colm is saying now versus how he played the game himself, despite the attempted spin that's been put on it here.
Eugene McGee wrote about it again today as well.
I'm starting to think Tyrone people simply don't get the concept of manliness.

Good god if there is one person who has no notion what is going on it's McGee. Has his magical Black card (that he was raving about after the Mayo/Kerry replay last year) not sorted this all out?

Occasionally (just occasionally mind), he's not completely wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 07:30:20 PM
Already gave you my answer muppet. If you don't like it, then it is not my problem.

Still waiting on that 'king of' quote, or are you going to keep saying "WUM" to try and avoid looking like an idiot?

You lectured everyone in the 26 counties on their lack of critical thinking abilities, and since then have lectured the 6 counties.

Don't tell me you are equally deficient?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LeoMc on August 10, 2015, 07:42:20 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 10, 2015, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2015, 04:51:22 PM
Did Colm really say that refs were corrupt last night?
What he said was Tyrone and particularly the Cavanagh brothers are getting a reputation for diving and one of these days it will come back to haunt them as one of these days a ref will see Cavanagh go down after a foul and not award a free as he might think there goes your man Cavanagh diving again and he or Tyrone won't get the benefit of the doubt from the ref

Why is Colm Cavanagh getting the same bad rep as his brother? The example used by JB in his article and TSG was the tackle that led to Hairgate. He did spend a couple of minutes but from a number of viewings he seems to have taken a right thump in the 70th minute of a hard game. If he bounced back up you would have to be thinking he was on drugs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 07:30:20 PM
Already gave you my answer muppet. If you don't like it, then it is not my problem.

Still waiting on that 'king of' quote, or are you going to keep saying "WUM" to try and avoid looking like an idiot?

You lectured everyone in the 26 counties on their lack of critical thinking abilities, and since then have lectured the 6 counties.

Don't tell me you are equally deficient?
Where did I say that everyone in the 26 lacked critical thinking abilities? My critique was on the education system of that state discouraging such, and now we have a society in Ireland honed over decades which lacks this ability. This doesn't mean 'everyone' lacks such abilities. It has that most people haven't been taught it. Also as popular as this forum is, I don't think everyone in the south reads it ;)

This goes far beyond just a simple act of idiocy by a Tyrone player getting an opponent sent off. This social blindness has seen massive repercussions from the banking crises, political corruption, the various scandals involving the catholic church in Ireland etc etc. Ireland has never really had a significant enlightenment period like what happened in Europe and it really needs one to happen sooner than later.

Until then we'll still see corrupt politicians topping the polls at the next elections, dodgy businessmen and women fawned over by locals that have been made redundant by them, elements of Irish society having outrageous levels of entitlements, like excusing indiscretions of your own while vilifying that of others. Thankfully there are a small but growing amount of people in Ireland who now approach Freethinking towards their lives, but it is in spite of a political system that seeks to keep political dynasties in place and have those outside of a small elite kept dark and ignorant to the world around them.

Are you one of these people?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Are you one of these people?
Are you?

You continue to lecture those from both sides of the border on critical thinking. You are thankful for a 'small but growing group of Freethinkers', but you don't seem to know if you are one of them.  ;D

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: charlieTully on August 10, 2015, 08:33:02 PM
To be fair to Tyrone, as much as I hate to, last nights show was very biased, there was no mention of the constant sledging of McCarron. He has shown some serious courage to keep playing on with the amount of abuse he has taken this summer. Finlay did completely lose it and that was glossed over. The Hughes brothers were at it the whole game too. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 10, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Are you one of these people?
Are you?

You continue to lecture those from both sides of the border on critical thinking. You are thankful for a 'small but growing group of Freethinkers', but you don't seem to know if you are one of them.  ;D

Don't waste your time with him, not worth it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 10, 2015, 08:50:27 PM
An Eskra man told me the Tyrone County Board could give Kerry a bye into the final "in the interests & ethos of the GAA". They convened in Kelly's Inn today and only Mickey Harte & one or two diehards from Dromore/Trillick were holding out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 10, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Are you one of these people?
Are you?

You continue to lecture those from both sides of the border on critical thinking. You are thankful for a 'small but growing group of Freethinkers', but you don't seem to know if you are one of them.  ;D

Don't waste your time with him, not worth it.

Which one Trillick?

I was enjoying this little multi thread skirmish.

All the more so since one is my alter ego, however he managed to keep posting while I was at lunch......

I was beginning to adhere to the dualism school but now pluralism is starting to look feasible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2015, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:40:39 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Are you one of these people?
Are you?

You continue to lecture those from both sides of the border on critical thinking. You are thankful for a 'small but growing group of Freethinkers', but you don't seem to know if you are one of them.  ;D
It doesn't matter wherever I'm a 'freethinker' or not because you don't have to claim to be one to engage in critical thinking, reasoning, evaluate and communicate.

The problem here is that because I have you rattled that you might not be as intelligent as you think you are, all you can do is resort to sarcasm, hyperbole, accuse me of being a WUM and deflecting. You appear to me to be a good example of the Dunning Kruger effect, and that is not either an ad hominem or a 'lecture'. That is called an opinion, something which people who don't have developed thinking facilities don't understand properly. I don't blame you, I blame the environment you were brought up in.

Now other than still waiting for evidence that I am a 'self proclaimed king of critical thought', there is no more point in dealing with yourself because I don't want to be dragged down to the level of idiots who can then beat me with their experience. But if you can't find that quote, I will continually call you out as a bullshitter.

But if you aren't one of the  freethinkers that you were thankful for,  that means you are part of either 'a political system that seeks to keep political dynasties in place' or 'those outside of a small elite kept dark and ignorant to the world around them'. Which are you?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.


TBF Cavanagh had floored him fairly and squarely 6months earlier after he started acting the big man. He wasn't gonna chance that again
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SuperHo on August 10, 2015, 09:35:38 PM
I know ye are but what am i? :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 10, 2015, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Are you one of these people?
Are you?
Am I?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 10, 2015, 09:50:50 PM
Quote from: Hospital Road on August 10, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Are you one of these people?
Are you?
Am I?

What are ye?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

Because you continually do it at every damn grade. If one of your's just boxed the head off a man or tried to needle the odd player you'd get the same reaction as other teams do. It wouldn't follow you around like a bad smell then.

You and a lot of Tyrone posters conveniently ignore the track record in the face of anecdotes of misdemeanors by other teams. No one is falling for that line but the Tyrone true believers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 11, 2015, 01:42:01 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

No he didn't. It was a mild reaction to being ruffed up by Murphy and will have to be rescinded.

McCann on the other hand was a joke. His 'look at me' hairstyle was asking to be ruffled up. No better man than that Hughes lad.

Saying that, I saw him and the Monaghan team in the league in Castlebar and their discipline was not good - reckless even. like they believed  the hype Mayo were soft and they could sew it in and lost the plot entirely when they didn t get their way. That Hughes lad came on that day and was lowing for a card of some colour straight away. Can t remember if he got one or not touigh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballela-angel on August 11, 2015, 03:09:38 AM
A few comments on this diving/getting fellas black cards/yellow cards/red cards (or "getting the line" in olden days) and refs
1. The current perception of Tyrone diving started with Peter Canavan, who truly made it an art form - The growth of the perception since then, has in some individual players, been justified

2. Pat McEnany (not sure of the spelling) was once quoted as stating that if he was ref and Peter Canavan was looking for a penalty, the tackle would have had to be heavy enough that Peter wouldn't be physically well enough after the tackle to take the penalty

3.In the dressing room at half time of the 1960 All-Ireland final the Down team were advised to be careful not "to get the line in the second half as that will be part of the Kerry strategy to win this game"

4. Aidan O'Mahoney's falling as if assassinated when Donncha O'Connor of Cork touched him on the cheek in Croke Park was as bad at play acting to get someone the line as what we saw on Saturday last

I have always admired Tyrone under Mickey Harte and over those years thought they gave as good as they got (with Canavan and Sean Cavanaugh being the exception for putting on the theatrics) but even I was shocked at the amount of it on Saturday - I could see by the end of the game that Tyrone have made it difficult for neutrals like myself to respect them even though they played great football against Monaghan
That being said, powerful people in the media, especially Pat Spillane with his "butter wouldn't melt in out mouths down here in Kerry where we only play "pure, honest, traditional, kick-pass football" have been over critical of Tyrone and their approach to football with his puke-football comments, and regrettably that sledging of his on them as a TV pundit has gained a lot of traction

Bottom line is, both teams might be practicing the dark-arts in the semi-final, but it's still a game I do not want to miss
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 11, 2015, 03:45:37 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 11, 2015, 01:42:01 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

No he didn't. It was a mild reaction to being ruffed up by Murphy and will have to be rescinded.

McCann on the other hand was a joke. His 'look at me' hairstyle was asking to be ruffled up. No better man than that Hughes lad.

Saying that, I saw him and the Monaghan team in the league in Castlebar and their discipline was not good - reckless even. like they believed  the hype Mayo were soft and they could sew it in and lost the plot entirely when they didn t get their way. That Hughes lad came on that day and was lowing for a card of some colour straight away. Can t remember if he got one or not touigh.

Well thank f*ck someone outside of Ulster has first hand experience of the shower of hallions that Monaghan have been for the last 10 years. They really have to be seen  to be believed. The usual suspects of  Clerkin and Mone were unusally subdued yesterday but Finlay and C. Hughes took up the mantle well.

BTW all this BS about it not being in Finaly's character is hogwash. Just cos he saunters around the pitch in a lackadaisical manner doesnt disguise his love of sneaky digs, he's been at it for years
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GJL on August 11, 2015, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 11, 2015, 01:42:01 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

No he didn't. It was a mild reaction to being ruffed up by Murphy and will have to be rescinded.

McCann on the other hand was a joke. His 'look at me' hairstyle was asking to be ruffled up. No better man than that Hughes lad.

Saying that, I saw him and the Monaghan team in the league in Castlebar and their discipline was not good - reckless even. like they believed  the hype Mayo were soft and they could sew it in and lost the plot entirely when they didn t get their way. That Hughes lad came on that day and was lowing for a card of some colour straight away. Can t remember if he got one or not touigh.

You think a slap to the side of the face with a closed fist will be rescinded? Good luck with that!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on August 11, 2015, 09:13:42 AM
Quote from: ballela-angel on August 11, 2015, 03:09:38 AM
A few comments on this diving/getting fellas black cards/yellow cards/red cards (or "getting the line" in olden days) and refs
1. The current perception of Tyrone diving started with Peter Canavan, who truly made it an art form - The growth of the perception since then, has in some individual players, been justified
Dont forget Brian Dooher, McMenamin and Philip Jordan....it always kind of annoyed me that the antics and downright cheating of these players was always overlooked. Then if you go back to the Tyrone team of the mid-90's that got to the AI Final...one of the dirtiest teams I've ever seen.

2. Pat McEnany (not sure of the spelling) was once quoted as stating that if he was ref and Peter Canavan was looking for a penalty, the tackle would have had to be heavy enough that Peter wouldn't be physically well enough after the tackle to take the penalty

3.In the dressing room at half time of the 1960 All-Ireland final the Down team were advised to be careful not "to get the line in the second half as that will be part of the Kerry strategy to win this game"

4. Aidan O'Mahoney's falling as if assassinated when Donncha O'Connor of Cork touched him on the cheek in Croke Park was as bad at play acting to get someone the line as what we saw on Saturday last

I have always admired Tyrone under Mickey Harte and over those years thought they gave as good as they got (with Canavan and Sean Cavanaugh being the exception for putting on the theatrics) but even I was shocked at the amount of it on Saturday - I could see by the end of the game that Tyrone have made it difficult for neutrals like myself to respect them even though they played great football against Monaghan
That being said, powerful people in the media, especially Pat Spillane with his "butter wouldn't melt in out mouths down here in Kerry where we only play "pure, honest, traditional, kick-pass football" have been over critical of Tyrone and their approach to football with his puke-football comments, and regrettably that sledging of his on them as a TV pundit has gained a lot of traction

Bottom line is, both teams might be practicing the dark-arts in the semi-final, but it's still a game I do not want to miss

Monaghan are a dirty side too, but they get away with it in the public domain as they are a small county trying to do the best they can with what they have available....like that somehow excuses "playing on the edge".
Kerry be at it as well as do Dublin....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 11, 2015, 09:23:24 AM
Monaghan are a tough side and are much smarter about the 'dark arts' than Tyrone it seems. See Dick Clerkin reaction in last minute v Donegal for example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 11, 2015, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 11, 2015, 09:23:24 AM
Monaghan are a tough side and are much smarter about the 'dark arts' than Tyrone it seems. See Dick Clerkin reaction in last minute v Donegal for example.
The McCann incident aside, monaghan where every bit as bad as Tyrone on Saturday, the difference is, the Sunday game when through every one of Tyrone's transgressions, highlighting them and non of Monaghans.

Maybe if after every game they went through every dive , cynical challenge or off the ball incident for EVERY county, Tyrone wouldn't look that much worse than anyone else.
Thing is though they don't (nor should they, but a bit of balance would be nice), and while Tyrone may bring some of it on themselves, this has undoubtedly coloured public perception.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

Because you continually do it at every damn grade. If one of your's just boxed the head off a man or tried to needle the odd player you'd get the same reaction as other teams do. It wouldn't follow you around like a bad smell then.

You and a lot of Tyrone posters conveniently ignore the track record in the face of anecdotes of misdemeanors by other teams. No one is falling for that line but the Tyrone true believers.

Absolute horseshit.

Take the u21 final, Tyrone were the more sinned against team,  McShane was clearly targeted for attention from the get go and he didn't get any protection from the ref. Tipp were the most cynical team for 50 odd minutes of the game and there's no doubt Tyrone git very cynical in the last 10 minutes to close it out. 

Yet the fallout from that game was ridiculous, every accusation and allegation thrown our way, great young footballers and esteemed legends of the game having their names muddied because the other team couldn't take their beating.

The problem is you lads don't like a Northern team coming down here and beating you off the field in footballing terms. Bitterness has consumed you and your classless reaction to it is telling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 11, 2015, 09:59:48 AM
I was thinking there when Tiernan McCann is drafting his apology for Whelan he could use the following lads apologies for ideas:

Michael Shields (Cork) v Kerry 2015
Aidan O'Shea (Mayo) v Tyrone 2013
Rory Beggan (Monaghan) v Tyrone 2015



Oh wait.......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

Because you continually do it at every damn grade. If one of your's just boxed the head off a man or tried to needle the odd player you'd get the same reaction as other teams do. It wouldn't follow you around like a bad smell then.

You and a lot of Tyrone posters conveniently ignore the track record in the face of anecdotes of misdemeanors by other teams. No one is falling for that line but the Tyrone true believers.

Absolute horseshit.

Take the u21 final, Tyrone were the more sinned against team,  McShane was clearly targeted for attention from the get go and he didn't get any protection from the ref. Tipp were the most cynical team for 50 odd minutes of the game and there's no doubt Tyrone git very cynical in the last 10 minutes to close it out. 

Yet the fallout from that game was ridiculous, every accusation and allegation thrown our way, great young footballers and esteemed legends of the game having their names muddied because the other team couldn't take their beating.

The problem is you lads don't like a Northern team coming down here and beating you off the field in footballing terms. Bitterness has consumed you and your classless reaction to it is telling.

Ah come off it. I'm on yer side here, but what you're saying there is nonsense. Apart from Stephen O'Brien's stamp on McShane, Tipp weren't in the same league, and that's without the whole yapping and girlfriend chatter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

Because you continually do it at every damn grade. If one of your's just boxed the head off a man or tried to needle the odd player you'd get the same reaction as other teams do. It wouldn't follow you around like a bad smell then.

You and a lot of Tyrone posters conveniently ignore the track record in the face of anecdotes of misdemeanors by other teams. No one is falling for that line but the Tyrone true believers.

Absolute horseshit.

Take the u21 final, Tyrone were the more sinned against team,  McShane was clearly targeted for attention from the get go and he didn't get any protection from the ref. Tipp were the most cynical team for 50 odd minutes of the game and there's no doubt Tyrone git very cynical in the last 10 minutes to close it out. 

Yet the fallout from that game was ridiculous, every accusation and allegation thrown our way, great young footballers and esteemed legends of the game having their names muddied because the other team couldn't take their beating.

The problem is you lads don't like a Northern team coming down here and beating you off the field in footballing terms. Bitterness has consumed you and your classless reaction to it is telling.

Ah come off it. I'm on yer side here, but what you're saying there is nonsense. Apart from Stephen O'Brien's stamp on McShane, Tipp weren't in the same league, and that's without the whole yapping and girlfriend chatter.

It's a fact, check the foul count.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on August 11, 2015, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

Because you continually do it at every damn grade. If one of your's just boxed the head off a man or tried to needle the odd player you'd get the same reaction as other teams do. It wouldn't follow you around like a bad smell then.

You and a lot of Tyrone posters conveniently ignore the track record in the face of anecdotes of misdemeanors by other teams. No one is falling for that line but the Tyrone true believers.

Absolute horseshit.

Take the u21 final, Tyrone were the more sinned against team,  McShane was clearly targeted for attention from the get go and he didn't get any protection from the ref. Tipp were the most cynical team for 50 odd minutes of the game and there's no doubt Tyrone git very cynical in the last 10 minutes to close it out. 

Yet the fallout from that game was ridiculous, every accusation and allegation thrown our way, great young footballers and esteemed legends of the game having their names muddied because the other team couldn't take their beating.

The problem is you lads don't like a Northern team coming down here and beating you off the field in footballing terms. Bitterness has consumed you and your classless reaction to it is telling.

Ah come off it. I'm on yer side here, but what you're saying there is nonsense. Apart from Stephen O'Brien's stamp on McShane, Tipp weren't in the same league, and that's without the whole yapping and girlfriend chatter.

It's a fact, check the foul count.

This sort of comparison would be valid if the refereeing was in any way consistent or a half decent quality.
As it stands, a foul count is not a metric which can be used to make a comparison, IMO.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:09:11 AM
And if foul count were used as a metric, one might be fooled into believing that the team that dived more was the less cynical. Or something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on August 11, 2015, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 11, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
On last nights show Colm O'Rourke listed instances of Tyrone misdeamours this year including the sledging v Donegal and also sledging in the Tipp U21s. Whilst acknowledging the embarrassing reactions of Tiernan McCann, I must ask, Was the actions of Darren Hughes sledging? If so, then this is the same misdemeanour bought up from weeks ago by O'Rourke to fit his argument but conveniently ignored whilst it's actually playing out on screen in front of him in the studio. What was Darren Hughes' motives for putting his hand anywhere near McCann? The clear answer is he was trying to provoke a reaction - sledging. I'm not on here to defend McCanns antics, but id ask a serious question - Would people here have been happier if McCann had responded by punching Hughes in the face? Would that have been more"manly" for Colm and his like? Would Ciaran Whelan have been calling for an apology then? What if he'd broken Hughes jaw, would that have been less of a disrepute to the game than diving? Would the "hair ruffling and sledging been mentioned on the Sunday Game had Tiernan just walked away? Well given the focus on sledging this summer it most definitely should have been discussed.

Kevin Keane boxed Murphy on the jaw in the following game and it's gently tutted at, Finlay boxed Cavanagh and nobody bats an eyelid. McCann falls over and the world caves in. Social media, The Sunday Game and all two bit journalists can't wait to get their boot into the young lad who hasn't actually caused any physical damage to another player.

I'll state again, I 100% unreservedly condemn McCann for his silly reaction but the hypocrisy, bile and biased way this has been handled by all sections of the media has been nauseating in the extreme.

Because you continually do it at every damn grade. If one of your's just boxed the head off a man or tried to needle the odd player you'd get the same reaction as other teams do. It wouldn't follow you around like a bad smell then.

You and a lot of Tyrone posters conveniently ignore the track record in the face of anecdotes of misdemeanors by other teams. No one is falling for that line but the Tyrone true believers.

Absolute horseshit.

Take the u21 final, Tyrone were the more sinned against team,  McShane was clearly targeted for attention from the get go and he didn't get any protection from the ref. Tipp were the most cynical team for 50 odd minutes of the game and there's no doubt Tyrone git very cynical in the last 10 minutes to close it out. 

Yet the fallout from that game was ridiculous, every accusation and allegation thrown our way, great young footballers and esteemed legends of the game having their names muddied because the other team couldn't take their beating.

The problem is you lads don't like a Northern team coming down here and beating you off the field in footballing terms. Bitterness has consumed you and your classless reaction to it is telling.

Ah come off it. I'm on yer side here, but what you're saying there is nonsense. Apart from Stephen O'Brien's stamp on McShane, Tipp weren't in the same league, and that's without the whole yapping and girlfriend chatter.

It's a fact, check the foul count.

This sort of comparison would be valid if the refereeing was in any way consistent or a half decent quality.
As it stands, a foul count is not a metric which can be used to make a comparison, IMO.

Yes and when put in context it's more explicit. Cathal McShane was targeted from the get go, he was stamped on, kicked, hit after the ball and with frontal charges for the whole 60+ minutes.

What was said and done after that match was a complete smear job on Tyrone. The reporting was one sided, biased and inflammatory.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:15:50 AM
Bomber, I agree with you about the post match lunacy, and I know Tipp are not happy about themselves in some of the things that were said. And Stephen O'Brien's stamp was poor. And Tipperary in the senior game were the ones who went over the line, with Liam Casey's stamp being inexcusable.

However if you can't see that Tyrone are guilty of yapping, diving and cynical behaviour at various times, then you're at nothing. The sledging shite is ridiculous and there's no need for it. To me that's what sets Tyrone apart in the eyes of people. If we were measuring diving, time wasting or cynical fouling, Tyrone would be one of a number of teams in and around the same level. The media's persecution of Tyrone, far more than any other team north or south, is rooted, I think, in the name Tyrone have now for yapping. Stop that, and a lot of the heat would go off the team I think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:20:37 AM
I never said we weren't and I wouldn't mind the criticism if it was fair, balanced and across the board. It's not though and the u21 was a prime example. We got slaughtered in the media after that final, we had our reputation tarnished, our achievement devalued and if anything we were the least guiltily party for the goings on in that match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
But some of the carry on in the U21 final was bad. And again, no need for it. Ye have a fecking good senior team, and some savage players coming up the line. But they've gone too far, in my opinion, in trying to get an edge. Forget the chatting about lads families, and concentrate on the football. The odd dive or cynical foul there would be just exactly what every other team in the country does or has done. It's the snarling edge that puts people off.

The media are shocking full stop.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
But some of the carry on in the U21 final was bad. And again, no need for it. Ye have a fecking good senior team, and some savage players coming up the line. But they've gone too far, in my opinion, in trying to get an edge. Forget the chatting about lads families, and concentrate on the football. The odd dive or cynical foul there would be just exactly what every other team in the country does or has done. It's the snarling edge that puts people off.

The media are shocking full stop.

Yes, I have no problem admitting we are not without fault but why is everything bad that happens always pinned on Tyrone even when we are the least gullilty or equally culpable party.

It's the same with Armagh last year when they had the blame pinned on them for a brawl Cavan started.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
As I said, I suspect part of the rap Tyrone are getting is related to the allegations of yapping. It puts people off. I know I hate it, and I suspect others do too.

As for Armagh and Cavan, I can't really remember who came out worst in that. I thought the suspensions were similar on both sides, and I know the lad that broke his hand was pointed out as being in the wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
As I said, I suspect part of the rap Tyrone are getting is related to the allegations of yapping. It puts people off. I know I hate it, and I suspect others do too.

As for Armagh and Cavan, I can't really remember who came out worst in that. I thought the suspensions were similar on both sides, and I know the lad that broke his hand was pointed out as being in the wrong.

Armagh were completely vilified for it last year. And we are not the only ones that yap, far from it.

There is an evident media witch hunt against Tyrone, as I said I wouldn't mind if the condemnation for the incidents Tyrone are vilified were across the board, they're far from it though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on August 11, 2015, 11:45:20 AM
No doubt all of the stuff in the media will help Tyrone team spirit ahead of the Kerry game.  They'll take every inch they can.

The thing about diving and mouthing that annoys people is that it rarely ever gets punished.  Punch someone, make a late tackle, drag them etc, and invariably you'll be punished.  If refs started to punish the divers and the slabbers we'd see less of a backlash.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 11, 2015, 11:50:49 AM
jasus bomber your some shite talker.I was at the u21 final,and never in all my life have we come across such outright thugs as was your u21 team,spitting at players might be the norm in tyrone,but by jasus its the act of a gougher in munster.going on face book to get the names of girlfriends and mothers of tipp players might be the norm in tyrone but in Munster its the act of goughers.Imagine going to those extremes to get the edge,We play and lose to Cork and Kerry a lot,and never have they felt the need for this kind of carry on.I was in Donegal recently and spoke to people up there about your minor team,well lets just say they don't think much of ye either,That poor chap after losing his dad,and the abuse he got from your minors was ,well if we ever carried on like that ,I would never again support Tipp,Whoever is promoting this crab needs to be found and removed from the tyrone set up.I have left croker after losing to the great Kilkenny team,but have always walked out with them having the craic,Never have I felt as angry as  Tipp supporter as that night in Parnell park,And yes Stephen O Brien was wrong,but maybe the spitting and verbals got to him,I met two lads from tyrone after the gamein thurles recently,they joined our company and we had a great few hours with them,one of them was not aware what went on in parnell park,his pal told him,and he just said that's not any way to win an all-Ireland,why would we want it.................says a lot really......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.

I know. I said I'm on yer side here. But ye could help yourselves by dialing back the other stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 11, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
I can't see anything for all the sock puppets.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 12:10:43 PM
sock puppets?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 11, 2015, 12:14:36 PM
I should say sockpuppets (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 11, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.


TBF Cavanagh had floored him fairly and squarely 6months earlier after he started acting the big man. He wasn't gonna chance that again

Funny that Cavanagh apologised to him afterwards in the Croke Park players lounge for catching him high and late and Whelan had a black eye/bruising - I know one or two of you people are GAA members and can verify that with Cavanagh
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 11, 2015, 03:00:03 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 11, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
I can't see anything for all the sock puppets.

And the critical tinkers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.

I know. I said I'm on yer side here. But ye could help yourselves by dialing back the other stuff.

AZ, c'mon man - he's obviously a troll who is milking the wake of this mess (of Tyrone's own making) to stir the pot for his own enjoyment. The sad part is his ramblings about 'south v Ulster' is actually believed by some genuine posters here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StGallsGAA on August 11, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
Feck me.  We are scraping the barrel now....whether or not Sean Cavanagh apologised to Whelan for a high tackle in a game played 10 years ago! 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 11, 2015, 03:24:06 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on August 11, 2015, 03:22:25 PM
Feck me.  We are scraping the barrel now....whether or not Sean Cavanagh apologised to Whelan for a high tackle in a game played 10 years ago!

Same tactic as normal - all deny there is an issue with the county and try and cite as many isolated other examples in other games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.

I know. I said I'm on yer side here. But ye could help yourselves by dialing back the other stuff.

AZ, c'mon man - he's obviously a troll who is milking the wake of this mess (of Tyrone's own making) to stir the pot for his own enjoyment. The sad part is his ramblings about 'south v Ulster' is actually believed by some genuine posters here.

I dunno. Maybe he is. But he's not the only one who thinks Tyrone get an unduly hard time in the media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.

I know. I said I'm on yer side here. But ye could help yourselves by dialing back the other stuff.

AZ, c'mon man - he's obviously a troll who is milking the wake of this mess (of Tyrone's own making) to stir the pot for his own enjoyment. The sad part is his ramblings about 'south v Ulster' is actually believed by some genuine posters here.

Which little shit hole county do you come from? The only interest you have past August is trying to sully the name of a team who have the mettle to win big games at Croke Park.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 11, 2015, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.

I know. I said I'm on yer side here. But ye could help yourselves by dialing back the other stuff.

AZ, c'mon man - he's obviously a troll who is milking the wake of this mess (of Tyrone's own making) to stir the pot for his own enjoyment. The sad part is his ramblings about 'south v Ulster' is actually believed by some genuine posters here.

I dunno. Maybe he is. But he's not the only one who thinks Tyrone get an unduly hard time in the media.

https://www.facebook.com/teamtalkmag.tyrone

Fill your boots with hard luck stories on that page how RTE/the Southern meeja, Ireland, Derry, the world hate Tyrone and it's all unfair on them blah blah blah... what about 1942 when one of our lads got a bad slap/there was no uproar about O'Mahony/Shields (There clearly was)... blah blah blah

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/1992864/smallest-violin-in-the-world-2-o.gif)

Poor Tyrone :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on August 11, 2015, 04:15:19 PM
Some posters on here need to calm down with old keyboard sledging. There is not a competitive team in the world that would not do what it takes to win. Tyrone are getting the shit because they have won. You would think to hear some of the Munster posters on here that it is a province populated with angels. Kerry are not just superb footballers, they give it and take it. Hughes has acknowledged today (in a round-about way) that he invited a reaction by raising his hand and accepted that neither he, McCann nor Marty Duffy were covered in glory. Bad and all as diving is Ref's can and should be able to see it and linemen as well can be consulted. What is worse in my mind and is never punished (or rarely) is the grabbing of the arm and pulling a player down for a free, its endemic. players will use every angle to win so why don't the GAA use every angle to police the game, give linemen more authority, better training for umpires and video evidence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 11, 2015, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 11, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.


TBF Cavanagh had floored him fairly and squarely 6months earlier after he started acting the big man. He wasn't gonna chance that again

Funny that Cavanagh apologised to him afterwards in the Croke Park players lounge for catching him high and late and Whelan had a black eye/bruising - I know one or two of you people are GAA members and can verify that with Cavanagh

I can imagine that conversation....

OJ: Well Sean, how'she cutting?

SC: Not bad lad, bit sore, big Finlay tried a Mortal Comabt move on me there at the weekend but sure its all fun and games

OJ: Aye I seen that, here tell us this, Do you mine landing big Whelo on his arse in 08?

SC: Ahhhhh....maybe...there's a fair bit o contact in these matches like, hard to mind it all.

OJ: Right aye well ye did, I mind it well cos he was acting the big lad b4 hand and I thought it was nice you got him back fair and square

SC: Rrright....Fair enuff

OJ: Well there's some boy on a message board online reckons you apologised afterwards cos you gave him a black eye

SC: Ahhhh...maybe...I dunno I might well have, if I gave him a shiner like. At the end of the day nobody wants to hurt anybody on the pitch cleanly or illegally so we draw a line under it once we're off the pitch

OJ: Fair enuff big lad, I'll let them know

SC:  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on August 11, 2015, 08:39:55 PM
There was a time a body looked forward to watching The Sunday Game, kinda like Match of the Day on a Sat night, but unlike match of the day, the Sunday Game has went backwards.  The studio / set is like a poor Eurovision attempt at futuristic design, Des Cahill  is laughable as a host. Doesn't have a clue, holding up a piece of card congratulating Shane Lowry - good god !!!!!! Pahal.......  the only redeeming features have been Dessie Dolan, Tomas o Se, Paul Early, I don't mind Ciaran Whelan either, has some valid points and gets them across well.  It's nearly getting to the stage where ye watch to see how bad Des Cahill can really get, which is a shame because we have great games getting comic book presentation.   Maybe it's all part of the D4 agenda to ruin the gaa and promote rugby, soccer and heaven forbid cricket, cos that's where the money is but maybe I am just getting cynical in my old age... I never though a tyrone man would ever get cynical, but well done RTE this is all your fault ! ;-) ;-)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on August 11, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Before I get slated, sorry sledged !!!! I know it's Dermot Early not Paul Early,,, that was a typo! My quiff got ruffled and I got all in a fluster
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 11, 2015, 09:02:45 PM
Quote from: Beantown on August 11, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Before I get slated, sorry sledged !!!! I know it's Dermot Early not Paul Early,,, that was a typo! My quiff got ruffled and I got all in a fluster

You can edit your posts
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 11, 2015, 09:23:21 PM
Apart from that typo beamtown, spot on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2015, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 11, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 11, 2015, 11:50:16 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 11, 2015, 11:45:46 AM
Ye are not the only ones that yap, but I think ye've taken it too far. The whole yapping and roaring at lads who've missed a shot, or trying to get them to hit you by insulting their families etc, is just pathetic in my view, and while Tyrone are not the only ones who do it, it does seem to be more prevalent in some of the Tyrone players at various levels. And as I said, there's no need for it.

If the media was just focusing on that element, then I'd sort of say they have a point. But to highlight diving, cynical play and the like for Tyrone, and not pass any remarks on other teams who do it is definitely unfair.

And therein lies my contention and that of most Tyrone fans when it comes to RTE and the Southern media.

I know. I said I'm on yer side here. But ye could help yourselves by dialing back the other stuff.

AZ, c'mon man - he's obviously a troll who is milking the wake of this mess (of Tyrone's own making) to stir the pot for his own enjoyment. The sad part is his ramblings about 'south v Ulster' is actually believed by some genuine posters here.

I dunno. Maybe he is. But he's not the only one who thinks Tyrone get an unduly hard time in the media.

To be fair to tyrone (and i'm not a big fan if I'm honest) the sunday game showed finlay smack cavanagh on the back of the head in one clip and he pretty much smacked peter harte on the mouth in another clip too and they were glossed over. It wasn't exactly unbiased. Yet mcnamee punched mcmanus and they highlighted it. You can't show clips of teams from one side getting hit , gloss over them, highlight a punch on their man and expect to be deemed unbiased.

Des Cahill is an awful host too. He's like a sun journalist.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LeoMc on August 11, 2015, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 11, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.


TBF Cavanagh had floored him fairly and squarely 6months earlier after he started acting the big man. He wasn't gonna chance that again

Funny that Cavanagh apologised to him afterwards in the Croke Park players lounge for catching him high and late and Whelan had a black eye/bruising - I know one or two of you people are GAA members and can verify that with Cavanagh
What game is Whelo supposed to have dived in and how is it related to whether Cavanagh fouled him and apologised for it 6 months earlier?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 11, 2015, 10:22:05 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on August 11, 2015, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 11, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.


TBF Cavanagh had floored him fairly and squarely 6months earlier after he started acting the big man. He wasn't gonna chance that again

Funny that Cavanagh apologised to him afterwards in the Croke Park players lounge for catching him high and late and Whelan had a black eye/bruising - I know one or two of you people are GAA members and can verify that with Cavanagh
What game is Whelo supposed to have dived in and how is it related to whether Cavanagh fouled him and apologised for it 6 months earlier?


He dived in the 125 match in Croke Park in 2009 after being tackled by Sean and got a black card (original) from Marty Duffy for his troubles

I suggestted he was worried about getting dumped on his arse again like he was after a collision with big Sean in the 08 championship match.

Dont know anything about this apology
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AhNowRef on August 12, 2015, 05:29:24 PM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 11, 2015, 11:50:49 AM
jasus bomber your some shite talker.I was at the u21 final,and never in all my life have we come across such outright thugs as was your u21 team,spitting at players might be the norm in tyrone,but by jasus its the act of a gougher in munster.going on face book to get the names of girlfriends and mothers of tipp players might be the norm in tyrone but in Munster its the act of goughers.Imagine going to those extremes to get the edge,We play and lose to Cork and Kerry a lot,and never have they felt the need for this kind of carry on.I was in Donegal recently and spoke to people up there about your minor team,well lets just say they don't think much of ye either,That poor chap after losing his dad,and the abuse he got from your minors was ,well if we ever carried on like that ,I would never again support Tipp,Whoever is promoting this crab needs to be found and removed from the tyrone set up.I have left croker after losing to the great Kilkenny team,but have always walked out with them having the craic,Never have I felt as angry as  Tipp supporter as that night in Parnell park,And yes Stephen O Brien was wrong,but maybe the spitting and verbals got to him,I met two lads from tyrone after the gamein thurles recently,they joined our company and we had a great few hours with them,one of them was not aware what went on in parnell park,his pal told him,and he just said that's not any way to win an all-Ireland,why would we want it.................says a lot really......

Hi Paddy O .... Is there any chance you might be missing a "ber" between the "b" & "s" at the end of your name ?
....... Just a thought  :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 12, 2015, 05:35:43 PM
ANR do you know where the five lapms are?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2015, 05:40:38 PM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 12, 2015, 05:35:43 PM
ANR do you know where the five lapms are?

The Pubic Triangle?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AhNowRef on August 12, 2015, 05:57:41 PM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 12, 2015, 05:35:43 PM
ANR do you know where the five lapms are?

I dont even know what the 5 "lapms" are  :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Talks a good game on August 12, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
As many people only believe what journalists or pundits tell them.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2015/08/12/news/fair-play-for-all---it-s-not-just-foul-play-from-tyrone-223741/

Fair comment I would say, I think this comment sums Colm O'Rourke up perfectly  " anyone who can describe a knee to the hinch swiftly followed by a punch to the side of the head as "minor contact" cannot be taken seriously and should really be ignored"

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 12, 2015, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 11, 2015, 10:22:05 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on August 11, 2015, 10:15:15 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 11, 2015, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 10, 2015, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 10, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMEf_5dWwAA8ZTH.jpg)

Ciaran Whelan mugged off, mugged off good and proper.


TBF Cavanagh had floored him fairly and squarely 6months earlier after he started acting the big man. He wasn't gonna chance that again

Funny that Cavanagh apologised to him afterwards in the Croke Park players lounge for catching him high and late and Whelan had a black eye/bruising - I know one or two of you people are GAA members and can verify that with Cavanagh
What game is Whelo supposed to have dived in and how is it related to whether Cavanagh fouled him and apologised for it 6 months earlier?


He dived in the 125 match in Croke Park in 2009 after being tackled by Sean and got a black card (original) from Marty Duffy for his troubles

I suggestted he was worried about getting dumped on his arse again like he was after a collision with big Sean in the 08 championship match.

Dont know anything about this apology

It gets better so the 2 Sunday game clowns so outraged one is a convicted Diver and the other a known thug
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 12, 2015, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: Talks a good game on August 12, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
As many people only believe what journalists or pundits tell them.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2015/08/12/news/fair-play-for-all---it-s-not-just-foul-play-from-tyrone-223741/

Fair comment I would say, I think this comment sums Colm O'Rourke up perfectly  " anyone who can describe a knee to the hinch swiftly followed by a punch to the side of the head as "minor contact" cannot be taken seriously and should really be ignored"

That's an excellently written article.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2015, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

It sounds like something Ricey would know how to use.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:58:21 PM
Thought it sounded like Ulster-Scots.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2015, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:58:21 PM
Thought it sounded like Ulster-Scots.

Tis Ulster after a bottle of scotch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thebuzz on August 12, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.

Just in case you really don't know.

Hinch bone: Iliac crest. The bone that encircles the lower abdomen and forms part of the pelvis.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Disillusioned on August 12, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 12, 2015, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: Talks a good game on August 12, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
As many people only believe what journalists or pundits tell them.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2015/08/12/news/fair-play-for-all---it-s-not-just-foul-play-from-tyrone-223741/

Fair comment I would say, I think this comment sums Colm O'Rourke up perfectly  " anyone who can describe a knee to the hinch swiftly followed by a punch to the side of the head as "minor contact" cannot be taken seriously and should really be ignored"

That's an excellently written article.

Written by Kenny Archer, a Tyrone man and apologist for his native county as required.  Not much different from his Derry colleague.  This was written to provide editorial balance given the critical article by the great Derry man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Talks a good game on August 12, 2015, 10:25:12 PM
Quote from: Disillusioned on August 12, 2015, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 12, 2015, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: Talks a good game on August 12, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
As many people only believe what journalists or pundits tell them.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2015/08/12/news/fair-play-for-all---it-s-not-just-foul-play-from-tyrone-223741/

Fair comment I would say, I think this comment sums Colm O'Rourke up perfectly  " anyone who can describe a knee to the hinch swiftly followed by a punch to the side of the head as "minor contact" cannot be taken seriously and should really be ignored"

That's an excellently written article.

Written by Kenny Archer, a Tyrone man and apologist for his native county as required.  Not much different from his Derry colleague.  This was written to provide editorial balance given the critical article by the great Derry man.

He is from Tyrone granted, but what specific points do you disagree with?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on August 12, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.

Just in case you really don't know.

Hinch bone: Iliac crest. The bone that encircles the lower abdomen and forms part of the pelvis.

I didn't know that. Thank you!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 13, 2015, 07:42:12 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on August 12, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.

Just in case you really don't know.

Hinch bone: Iliac crest. The bone that encircles the lower abdomen and forms part of the pelvis.

I didn't know that. Thank you!

Now that the dust has settled I just wanted to say that I thought Whelan and O'Rourke were very fair and measured in their analysis last sunday. The reaction of tyrone fans has been hysterical and they seem to think there is some vendetta against them. The shameful thing is that mccann has been now made out to be a victim by tyrone people and this will only do long term damage to the game. Young people watching on will see how mccann behaved and see how everyone in tyrone has got behind him and supported his behaviour. What will this lead to? In my opinion you will inevitably see lots of young tyrone players even at underage level diving to get players sent off  and they will be expecting the same sympathy from their clubmates. Mccanns ban probably won't stick but its a crying shame because he didnt show any remorse after and was going about smirking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on August 13, 2015, 12:32:56 PM
216 posts later and I can sum it up as follows: A lot of pious bullshit from counties outside Tyrone who's players past and present have and will do the same sort of stuff to gain advantage. Only way to stop it is through the refs and technology.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 13, 2015, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 13, 2015, 07:42:12 AMNow that the dust has settled I just wanted to say that I thought Whelan and O'Rourke were very fair and measured in their analysis last sunday. The reaction of tyrone fans has been hysterical and they seem to think there is some vendetta against them. The shameful thing is that mccann has been now made out to be a victim by tyrone people and this will only do long term damage to the game. Young people watching on will see how mccann behaved and see how everyone in tyrone has got behind him and supported his behaviour. What will this lead to? In my opinion you will inevitably see lots of young tyrone players even at underage level diving to get players sent off  and they will be expecting the same sympathy from their clubmates. Mccanns ban probably won't stick but its a crying shame because he didnt show any remorse after and was going about smirking.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B84xLI9IMAA2QeP.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stew on August 13, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 13, 2015, 07:42:12 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on August 12, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.

Just in case you really don't know.

Hinch bone: Iliac crest. The bone that encircles the lower abdomen and forms part of the pelvis.

I didn't know that. Thank you!

Now that the dust has settled I just wanted to say that I thought Whelan and O'Rourke were very fair and measured in their analysis last sunday. The reaction of tyrone fans has been hysterical and they seem to think there is some vendetta against them. The shameful thing is that mccann has been now made out to be a victim by tyrone people and this will only do long term damage to the game. Young people watching on will see how mccann behaved and see how everyone in tyrone has got behind him and supported his behaviour. What will this lead to? In my opinion you will inevitably see lots of young tyrone players even at underage level diving to get players sent off  and they will be expecting the same sympathy from their clubmates. Mccanns ban probably won't stick but its a crying shame because he didnt show any remorse after and was going about smirking.

The last line there just illustrates the fact that he is a horrible bastard!!!

Harte teaches this shite, he has to, he has been at the helm for two decades or so and from the get go his players have been at the dark arts!

People fawn over the f**ker and it makes me sick, he is a tremendous manager and if his team would stick to what they are best at (playing football) they would be just as successful if not more so! He chooses to let this shite happen on his watch and therefore is to blame when the negative press rolls in about the conduct of his players! f**k him, he is at times all that is bad about gaelic football............And now is one of these times!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 13, 2015, 06:03:53 PM
I think you mean f**king LOL
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on August 13, 2015, 06:11:15 PM
(In real meme mood today)

(http://jtfoxxblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Haterade-Blog.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: red hander on August 13, 2015, 07:01:34 PM
Quote from: stew on August 13, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 13, 2015, 07:42:12 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on August 12, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.

Just in case you really don't know.

Hinch bone: Iliac crest. The bone that encircles the lower abdomen and forms part of the pelvis.

I didn't know that. Thank you!

Now that the dust has settled I just wanted to say that I thought Whelan and O'Rourke were very fair and measured in their analysis last sunday. The reaction of tyrone fans has been hysterical and they seem to think there is some vendetta against them. The shameful thing is that mccann has been now made out to be a victim by tyrone people and this will only do long term damage to the game. Young people watching on will see how mccann behaved and see how everyone in tyrone has got behind him and supported his behaviour. What will this lead to? In my opinion you will inevitably see lots of young tyrone players even at underage level diving to get players sent off  and they will be expecting the same sympathy from their clubmates. Mccanns ban probably won't stick but its a crying shame because he didnt show any remorse after and was going about smirking.

The last line there just illustrates the fact that he is a horrible b**tard!!!

Harte teaches this shite, he has to, he has been at the helm for two decades or so and from the get go his players have been at the dark arts!

People fawn over the f**ker and it makes me sick, he is a tremendous manager and if his team would stick to what they are best at (playing football) they would be just as successful if not more so! He chooses to let this shite happen on his watch and therefore is to blame when the negative press rolls in about the conduct of his players! f**k him, he is at times all that is bad about gaelic football............And now is one of these times!!!

Christ, you've hit the sauce early ... go easy on it, and the exclamation marks, you'll break your Bontempi computer
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cadhlancian on August 13, 2015, 07:52:40 PM
Stew, yourself Sidney and Mike Sheehy are unequivocally the 3 biggest wankers on this board. Some of the dung you spout is laughable. The hate in your comments is worse though. You'll make all types of crazy accusations and like most people on here, I agree, you need to stop drinking....
P.S . Take yourself of to Packers preseason training...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 13, 2015, 11:33:04 PM
Quote from: stew on August 13, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 13, 2015, 07:42:12 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on August 12, 2015, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 12, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
What's a 'hinch'?

'Tis whin yir sixth since tills ye sumthin.

Just in case you really don't know.

Hinch bone: Iliac crest. The bone that encircles the lower abdomen and forms part of the pelvis.

I didn't know that. Thank you!

Now that the dust has settled I just wanted to say that I thought Whelan and O'Rourke were very fair and measured in their analysis last sunday. The reaction of tyrone fans has been hysterical and they seem to think there is some vendetta against them. The shameful thing is that mccann has been now made out to be a victim by tyrone people and this will only do long term damage to the game. Young people watching on will see how mccann behaved and see how everyone in tyrone has got behind him and supported his behaviour. What will this lead to? In my opinion you will inevitably see lots of young tyrone players even at underage level diving to get players sent off  and they will be expecting the same sympathy from their clubmates. Mccanns ban probably won't stick but its a crying shame because he didnt show any remorse after and was going about smirking.

The last line there just illustrates the fact that he is a horrible b**tard!!!

Harte teaches this shite, he has to, he has been at the helm for two decades or so and from the get go his players have been at the dark arts!

People fawn over the f**ker and it makes me sick, he is a tremendous manager and if his team would stick to what they are best at (playing football) they would be just as successful if not more so! He chooses to let this shite happen on his watch and therefore is to blame when the negative press rolls in about the conduct of his players! f**k him, he is at times all that is bad about gaelic football............And now is one of these times!!!

Stew, the gift that just keeps giving.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on August 13, 2015, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 13, 2015, 07:52:40 PM
Stew, yourself Sidney and Mike Sheehy are unequivocally the 3 biggest w**kers on this board. Some of the dung you spout is laughable. The hate in your comments is worse though. You'll make all types of crazy accusations and like most people on here, I agree, you need to stop drinking....
P.S . Take yourself of to Packers preseason training...

You have to admit though Tyrone must think the rest of the country are stupid if they are telling us the Tyrone management aren't telling their players to engage in these antics. I think that's the bit I find embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: headoftheroad on August 13, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
as I put on another thread - They lack integrity


a lot has been said from Saturday. It's clear the lad made a mistake but what was needed was integrity from the Tyrone manager and county board.
Why didn't Harte make a statement about how fine a young man he was and go on to blame someone else for the incident when he could have resolved the issue by saying ok he is not selecting him for the next game. Then the County board then condone his actions in stating they are appealing the CCCC determination. Integrity has been missing from 2003 with Tyrone remember Armagh's Mardsen, Ricey, Battle of Omagh and the disgusting treatment of Michael Murphy at the preliminary match in Omagh this year. Do you get the picture?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 13, 2015, 11:56:16 PM
as I said on the other thread - the preliminary game was in Ballybofey  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: headoftheroad on August 14, 2015, 12:20:07 AM
And I accepted my mistake unlike Harte who couldn't accept McCann was wrong
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 14, 2015, 12:55:32 AM
Quote from: headoftheroad on August 13, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
as I put on another thread - They lack integrity


a lot has been said from Saturday. It's clear the lad made a mistake but what was needed was integrity from the Tyrone manager and county board.
Why didn't Harte make a statement about how fine a young man he was and go on to blame someone else for the incident when he could have resolved the issue by saying ok he is not selecting him for the next game. Then the County board then condone his actions in stating they are appealing the CCCC determination. Integrity has been missing from 2003 with Tyrone remember Armagh's Mardsen, Ricey, Battle of Omagh and the disgusting treatment of Michael Murphy at the preliminary match in Omagh this year. Do you get the picture?

Like I said on the other thread Marsden struck, Battle of Omagh instigated by Dubs,Murphy was well marked by Justy and I will give you Ricey.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 14, 2015, 08:04:00 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 14, 2015, 12:55:32 AM
Quote from: headoftheroad on August 13, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
as I put on another thread - They lack integrity


a lot has been said from Saturday. It's clear the lad made a mistake but what was needed was integrity from the Tyrone manager and county board.
Why didn't Harte make a statement about how fine a young man he was and go on to blame someone else for the incident when he could have resolved the issue by saying ok he is not selecting him for the next game. Then the County board then condone his actions in stating they are appealing the CCCC determination. Integrity has been missing from 2003 with Tyrone remember Armagh's Mardsen, Ricey, Battle of Omagh and the disgusting treatment of Michael Murphy at the preliminary match in Omagh this year. Do you get the picture?

Like I said on the other thread Marsden struck, Battle of Omagh instigated by Dubs,Murphy was well marked by Justy and I will give you Ricey.

With tyrone its always someone elses fault. Thats what really gets up peoples noses. The cynicism, sledging, diving, timewasting is all justified by st micky and tyrone people because other teams do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 14, 2015, 10:08:20 AM
Tyrone GAA and the Orange Order are always right about everything all the time and everyone else is wrong about everything all the time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 14, 2015, 10:59:59 AM
Funny that there's plenty from outside Tyrone agreeing with their view point (you don't even have to leave the board to see it). But don't let that interrupt a good auld rant. After your year you prob need it. It's good to vent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on August 14, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: headoftheroad on August 14, 2015, 12:20:07 AM
And I accepted my mistake unlike Harte who couldn't accept McCann was wrong
That is factually incorrect, Harte acknowledged on Monday that McCann was wrong. He said in the IN on Tuesday that McCann accepts he made a mistake going down easily. He rightly went on to say that it wasn't the worst incident in the game. Instead of focusing on the players here the GAA should be looking at the ineptitude of their officials on the day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 14, 2015, 12:22:24 PM
I didn't see the game, only the Sunday game highlights. Now it seems universally except Marty Duffy was poor (when isn't he?) but to say we shouldn't focus on the players but rather the officials then that's nonsense. The first thing, the very first thing, that must happen is players and officials must start to behave with integrity when they play a game. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mikehunt on August 14, 2015, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 14, 2015, 10:08:20 AM
Tyrone GAA and the Orange Order are always right about everything all the time and everyone else is wrong about everything all the time.

oh the irony
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 16, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
I wish Gerlock would button that top button...looks cat >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I wonder if the Sunday Game analysts will go mental on the Galway full back for that cynical pull down of Callanan there for that Tipp penalty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I wonder if the Sunday Game analysts will go mental on the Galway full back for that cynical pull down of Callanan there for that Tipp penalty.
Arguably cost Tipp the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 05:48:10 PM
A hurling analyst point of view.....

(http://www.screwattack.com/sites/default/files/thumper%20can't%20say%20something%20nice.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redcard on August 16, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I wonder if the Sunday Game analysts will go mental on the Galway full back for that cynical pull down of Callanan there for that Tipp penalty.
Arguably cost Tipp the game.

No mention of it. That game had everything including cynicism at the end there. No doubt the Tipp hurlers will get on with it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I wonder if the Sunday Game analysts will go mental on the Galway full back for that cynical pull down of Callanan there for that Tipp penalty.
Arguably cost Tipp the game.

It probably did. Had that been in football the pitch forks would be out and we'd be gathering a crowd for a lynching already! I wonder has Joe Brolly forgotten about that full back as a man yet?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redcard on August 16, 2015, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I wonder if the Sunday Game analysts will go mental on the Galway full back for that cynical pull down of Callanan there for that Tipp penalty.
Arguably cost Tipp the game.

It probably did. Had that been Tyrone the pitch forks would be out and we'd be gathering a crowd for a lynching already! I wonder has Joe Brolly forgotten about that full back as a man yet?

Fixed that for you there
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on August 16, 2015, 05:58:17 PM
The only people focusing on the negatives after this epic game are people who cant help themselves. When a game has so many positive talking points then why make a few incidents the talking point. I promise you wont hear a complaint from one tipp supporter about the result or nature of the result. Go back  to playing your negative football, blanket defences, diving, feigining injury, sledging.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redcard on August 16, 2015, 06:00:37 PM
Quote from: didlyi on August 16, 2015, 05:58:17 PM
The only people focusing on the negatives after this epic game are people who cant help themselves. When a game has so many positive talking points then why make a few incidents the talking point. I promise you wont hear a complaint from one tipp supporter about the result or nature of the result. Go back  to playing your negative football, blanket defences, diving, feigining injury, sledging.

Ouch must have touched a nerve......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 16, 2015, 06:02:14 PM
Does every thread have to be a Tyrone whinge?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haze on August 16, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:53:38 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
I wonder if the Sunday Game analysts will go mental on the Galway full back for that cynical pull down of Callanan there for that Tipp penalty.
Arguably cost Tipp the game.

It probably did. Had that been in football the pitch forks would be out and we'd be gathering a crowd for a lynching already! I wonder has Joe Brolly forgotten about that full back as a man yet?
In that moment the full back kept galway alive. Id expect it to be mentioned tonight. Too big a play not to be discussed. Regardless what a game, loved every minute. Such a stark contrast to monaghan Tyrone last week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 16, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 16, 2015, 06:02:14 PM
Does every thread have to be a Tyrone whinge?

You beat me to it. Cop on lads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: didlyi on August 16, 2015, 05:58:17 PM
The only people focusing on the negatives after this epic game are people who cant help themselves. When a game has so many positive talking points then why make a few incidents the talking point. I promise you wont hear a complaint from one tipp supporter about the result or nature of the result. Go back  to playing your negative football, blanket defences, diving, feigining injury, sledging.

It was a pivotal moment in the game, surely it deserves a mention. This isn't a Tyrone whinge, it's a Sunday Game whinge!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 16, 2015, 06:10:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 16, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 16, 2015, 06:02:14 PM
Does every thread have to be a Tyrone whinge?

You beat me to it. Cop on lads.

Nothing useful to contribute from you pair, unsurprisingly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 06:12:33 PM
Great match but if I was a Tipp man I'd feel a bit hard done by the penalty incident. Tipp players can have no complaints though, too many big names were just anonymous. O'Meara, Bonner, Shane McGrath, Forder and Padraic Maher were just MIA. Woodlock and Bubbles played in fits. Barry was tremendous and it's all been said about Callanan. A terrible shame to think a player of his calibre will watch the final from the stands. You'd love to see him let loose on the Cats with that Galway team.

So was it Galway who outshone the Tipp star men or was it a case of Tipp's big names not turning up?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Its not surprising that its football first posters complaining of that pull down.... The lad was booked penalty given there is only one keeper on the line, he scored from it.. Get a fecking grip... Best game on the Sunday game this year??

If that was your county playing and he pulled him down then no complaints
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Two Hands FFS on August 16, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
Same happened to Galway in the first 10 minutes sure and they didn't even get a point from it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Its not surprising that its football first posters complaining of that pull down.... The lad was booked penalty given there is only one keeper on the line, he scored from it.. Get a fecking grip... Best game on the Sunday game this year??

If that was your county playing and he pulled him down then no complaints

Definitely. It's just the double standards that exist that frustrate me. If you pull a man down in a football game you're in for a full character assassination and it's the death of the game as we know it whilst we drown in a sea of cynicism. In hurling it's accepted as part of the game and there's nothing but praise for the game.

Cracking game, full of positives. If you're a miserable bastard you can highlight a few incidents and dwell on them to your hearts content and that's all the football pundits can do anymore.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 07:23:01 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Its not surprising that its football first posters complaining of that pull down.... The lad was booked penalty given there is only one keeper on the line, he scored from it.. Get a fecking grip... Best game on the Sunday game this year??

If that was your county playing and he pulled him down then no complaints

Definitely. It's just the double standards that exist that frustrate me. If you pull a man down in a football game you're in for a full character assassination and it's the death of the game as we know it whilst we drown in a sea of cynicism. In hurling it's accepted as part of the game and there's nothing but praise for the game.

Cracking game, full of positives. If you're a miserable b**tard you can highlight a few incidents and dwell on them to your hearts content and that's all the football pundits can do anymore.

Well don't drag everyone else down with it!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Boycey on August 16, 2015, 07:25:31 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Its not surprising that its football first posters complaining of that pull down.... The lad was booked penalty given there is only one keeper on the line, he scored from it.. Get a fecking grip... Best game on the Sunday game this year??

If that was your county playing and he pulled him down then no complaints

Definitely. It's just the double standards that exist that frustrate me. If you pull a man down in a football game you're in for a full character assassination and it's the death of the game as we know it whilst we drown in a sea of cynicism. In hurling it's accepted as part of the game and there's nothing but praise for the game.

Cracking game, full of positives. If you're a miserable b**tard you can highlight a few incidents and dwell on them to your hearts content and that's all the football pundits can do anymore.

There is your problem there, last Saturdays game was a cesspit of poison with few positives, had it been a "cracking game, full of positives" the analysts would have skipped past a few incidents of negativity with great ease.. Do you think they want to sit there every week and moan??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 07:36:46 PM
To be fair to the hurling analysts they have said the hurling has been poor due to the sweepers, and  negative tactics..

You've one problem with the football analysts... Brolly and the rest, get someone else in
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 16, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 16, 2015, 07:25:31 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Its not surprising that its football first posters complaining of that pull down.... The lad was booked penalty given there is only one keeper on the line, he scored from it.. Get a fecking grip... Best game on the Sunday game this year??

If that was your county playing and he pulled him down then no complaints

Definitely. It's just the double standards that exist that frustrate me. If you pull a man down in a football game you're in for a full character assassination and it's the death of the game as we know it whilst we drown in a sea of cynicism. In hurling it's accepted as part of the game and there's nothing but praise for the game.

Cracking game, full of positives. If you're a miserable b**tard you can highlight a few incidents and dwell on them to your hearts content and that's all the football pundits can do anymore.

There is your problem there, last Saturdays game was a cesspit of poison with few positives, had it been a "cracking game, full of positives" the analysts would have skipped past a few incidents of negativity with great ease.. Do you think they want to sit there every week and moan??

Thats pure BS, it was a great game and a cracking performance from Tyrone, which has been largely ignored. Monaghan's frustration boiled over at the end and instead of ignoring it ,Tyrone joined in, but Tyrone have got 100% of the blame for it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 16, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 16, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
Same happened to Galway in the first 10 minutes sure and they didn't even get a point from it

It was worse - the lad actually scored a goal but the whistle had gone.

tyrone fans will do anything to deflect and rewrite history. Other counties aren't as scrutinised because they don't deserve to be - simple really.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 16, 2015, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 16, 2015, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 16, 2015, 07:25:31 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 16, 2015, 07:14:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
Its not surprising that its football first posters complaining of that pull down.... The lad was booked penalty given there is only one keeper on the line, he scored from it.. Get a fecking grip... Best game on the Sunday game this year??

If that was your county playing and he pulled him down then no complaints

Definitely. It's just the double standards that exist that frustrate me. If you pull a man down in a football game you're in for a full character assassination and it's the death of the game as we know it whilst we drown in a sea of cynicism. In hurling it's accepted as part of the game and there's nothing but praise for the game.

Cracking game, full of positives. If you're a miserable b**tard you can highlight a few incidents and dwell on them to your hearts content and that's all the football pundits can do anymore.

There is your problem there, last Saturdays game was a cesspit of poison with few positives, had it been a "cracking game, full of positives" the analysts would have skipped past a few incidents of negativity with great ease.. Do you think they want to sit there every week and moan??

Thats pure BS, it was a great game and a cracking performance from Tyrone, which has been largely ignored. Monaghan's frustration boiled over at the end and instead of ignoring it ,Tyrone joined in, but Tyrone have got 100% of the blame for it

+1

Last week was superb game, easily Tyrone's best performance since the 08 final and some of the scores from both sides were magnificent, end-to-end with great intensity and high skill levels on show - something that you'd fail to see in any a game involving teams from the same province in Munster, Leinster and Connacht.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 16, 2015, 08:53:48 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 16, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 16, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
Same happened to Galway in the first 10 minutes sure and they didn't even get a point from it

It was worse - the lad actually scored a goal but the whistle had gone.

tyrone fans will do anything to deflect and rewrite history. Other counties aren't as scrutinised because they don't deserve to be - simple really.

Your last paragraph just sums up the problem really! I purposely didn't post about the incident in the match thread as I didn't want to deflect from what was a great game. I mentioned it here because I genuinely was interested to see if the analysts even tackled these issues. I'm 100% happy that they didn't mention it and concentrated on the game. Hopefully the football "analysts" can take a leaf out of that book. Just imagine if a similar incident occurs next weekend towards the end of a great game. Would the analysis be focused on the game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 16, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 16, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 16, 2015, 06:02:14 PM
Does every thread have to be a Tyrone whinge?

You beat me to it. Cop on lads.

Yeah usually by people from outside the county.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 16, 2015, 09:28:24 PM
If I was supporting my county's boycott of RTE, I wouldn't even know what happened on The Sunday Game.  ;D

I did like Marty's comment '< insert tipp player> is surrounded by Andy Smith'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 16, 2015, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 16, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
Same happened to Galway in the first 10 minutes sure and they didn't even get a point from it

Yer man didn't even get a yellow for it!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on August 16, 2015, 10:36:03 PM

Your last paragraph just sums up the problem really! I purposely didn't post about the incident in the match thread as I didn't want to deflect from what was a great game. I mentioned it here because I genuinely was interested to see if the analysts even tackled these issues. I'm 100% happy that they didn't mention it and concentrated on the game. Hopefully the football "analysts" can take a leaf out of that book. Just imagine if a similar incident occurs next weekend towards the end of a great game. Would the analysis be focused on the game?
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If the football is every bit as good as todays game and there is only one or two negative incidents then Im sure that analysis will focus on the game. Positivity over negativity! Unlikely though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2015, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: didlyi on August 16, 2015, 10:36:03 PM

Your last paragraph just sums up the problem really! I purposely didn't post about the incident in the match thread as I didn't want to deflect from what was a great game. I mentioned it here because I genuinely was interested to see if the analysts even tackled these issues. I'm 100% happy that they didn't mention it and concentrated on the game. Hopefully the football "analysts" can take a leaf out of that book. Just imagine if a similar incident occurs next weekend towards the end of a great game. Would the analysis be focused on the game?
If the football is every bit as good as todays game and there is only one or two negative incidents then Im sure that analysis will focus on the game. Positivity over negativity! Unlikely though.
[/quote]

Agreed! Although Tyrone played well their match against Monaghan was fairly muck and with controversial incidents regular it was easier to focus on that rather than the football!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 16, 2015, 11:05:22 PM
Hurling putting football in the shade once more.
Fantastic game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redhandefender on August 17, 2015, 08:58:56 AM
Hurling = the precious beautiful game where manly man men go at it - no cynicism

Football and especially tyrone sean cavangh as a man is called into question.

Hurling are lucky they have a positive set of commentators and pundits. Football pundits consistently take a negative stance on things. The revolution will be televised this sunday, wonder does O'Rourke have anymore hats to eat
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 17, 2015, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 17, 2015, 08:58:56 AM
Hurling are lucky they have a positive set of commentators and pundits. Football pundits consistently take a negative stance on things. The revolution will be televised this sunday, wonder does O'Rourke have anymore hats to eat

You might have something there. The hurling lads seem to enjoy the game and the gig they have been given. The football lads adopt the demeanour of hanging judges.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 17, 2015, 09:07:51 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 17, 2015, 08:58:56 AM
Hurling = the precious beautiful game where manly man men go at it - no cynicism

Football and especially tyrone sean cavangh as a man is called into question.

Hurling are lucky they have a positive set of commentators and pundits. Football pundits consistently take a negative stance on things. The revolution will be televised this sunday, wonder does O'Rourke have anymore hats to eat

Hurling pundits want to talk about hurling and the current hurlers where wee Joe and Pat are only interested in shining a light on themselves and belittling the current footballers when possible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DickyRock on August 17, 2015, 09:21:10 AM
and that negativity has spread from TSG to print media and the general public
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: headoftheroad on August 17, 2015, 08:42:43 PM
Breaking news - Harte calls on all Tyrone supporters to join him in turning his back on our national broadcaster and not tune into the Sunday game.
He also has requested all Tyrone supporters to watch the match on the British Broadcasting Corporation. Boycott all Irish goods and next year the nordies will run their own National competition with the 6 Ulster teams and London.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 17, 2015, 08:50:16 PM
9 Counties in Ulster ya bolx ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: headoftheroad on August 17, 2015, 09:04:54 PM
Are ye thick 6 counties in Britain and London - let them get on with it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2015, 09:40:53 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 17, 2015, 08:58:56 AM
Hurling = the precious beautiful game where manly man men go at it - no cynicism

Football and especially tyrone sean cavangh as a man is called into question.

Hurling are lucky they have a positive set of commentators and pundits. Football pundits consistently take a negative stance on things. The revolution will be televised this sunday, wonder does O'Rourke have anymore hats to eat

You're right though. Could it be that RTÉ have an anti-football agenda?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2015, 09:49:15 PM
One problem is this...

People are sick of listening to these boys but there is no alternative. Even if you turn it over when punditry comes on the viewing figures will reflect who is watching the game.

Those hurling guys are great to listen to but the football guys just self absorbed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
The difference is that the hurling pundits aren't that long retired.  They get excited by the cut and thrust, the fights, the game and hence the commentary is better, more honest.  These old cranky football pundits are now so removed from football that they don't understand it.  That's why you had Pat Spillane getting excited by the Meath/Mayo brawl when he still had his  mojo.  They are taking the constraints of growing old out on the football-loving public of Ireland and rotting the heart out of the viewers who diligintly tune in to watch every week, only to be handed up sanctimonius tripe.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theskull1 on August 17, 2015, 10:35:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
It's not an RTE thing. It is at the stage where almost every time you have a conversation with someone about the most recent football game, it starts with "That was shite yesterday, wasn't it?" or something similar.

Have to agree with HS. A lot of games are hard to watch. Probably a over emphasis on the negative has been developing over the years as the handpassing to kickpassing stats swung the wrong way. There's more skill in the game I believe than there's ever been, certainly in the ball handling department .... but as more teams become tactically and statistically nuanced, as a form of entertainment, percentage football (or indeed hurling) lacks spectacle. Hurling commentators have been calling plenty of games as theyve seen them and the supporters wouldn't be in disagreement with the flatness of a lot of games this year.

Everyone was in high spirits yesterday .....why wouldn't they be ....... it was an absolute joy to watch yesterdays game.

I wish more kids had the opportunity to learn the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 18, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
The difference is that the hurling pundits aren't that long retired.  They get excited by the cut and thrust, the fights, the game and hence the commentary is better, more honest.  These old cranky football pundits are now so removed from football that they don't understand it.  That's why you had Pat Spillane getting excited by the Meath/Mayo brawl when he still had his  mojo.  They are taking the constraints of growing old out on the football-loving public of Ireland and rotting the heart out of the viewers who diligintly tune in to watch every week, only to be handed up sanctimonius tripe.

no long retired?tomas mulcahy,Loughnane,farrell,the like of eddie brennan is a breath of fresh air,also donal og and king henry,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2015, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 18, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
The difference is that the hurling pundits aren't that long retired.  They get excited by the cut and thrust, the fights, the game and hence the commentary is better, more honest.  These old cranky football pundits are now so removed from football that they don't understand it.  That's why you had Pat Spillane getting excited by the Meath/Mayo brawl when he still had his  mojo.  They are taking the constraints of growing old out on the football-loving public of Ireland and rotting the heart out of the viewers who diligintly tune in to watch every week, only to be handed up sanctimonius tripe.

no long retired?tomas mulcahy,Loughnane,farrell,the like of eddie brennan is a breath of fresh air,also donal og and king henry,

Yeah, not sure it's the length of retirement per se, I think it's just a fundamental attitude difference. We've said it here numerous times in the past when contrasting the hurling and football pundits. The Hurling lads seem to genuinely enjoy the games, even the average ones, and they want others to enjoy them too. Evangelists almost. The Football lads give the impression they are being held at gunpoint.

That said, the likes of Dessie Dolan seems to genuinely enjoy the games, so maybe there's hope yet.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 18, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
The difference is that the hurling pundits aren't that long retired.  They get excited by the cut and thrust, the fights, the game and hence the commentary is better, more honest.  These old cranky football pundits are now so removed from football that they don't understand it.  That's why you had Pat Spillane getting excited by the Meath/Mayo brawl when he still had his  mojo.  They are taking the constraints of growing old out on the football-loving public of Ireland and rotting the heart out of the viewers who diligintly tune in to watch every week, only to be handed up sanctimonius tripe.

no long retired?tomas mulcahy,Loughnane,farrell,the like of eddie brennan is a breath of fresh air,also donal og and king henry,

Have to say I don't find any of them good at all. Just cliches and soundbytes
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 19, 2015, 10:17:33 AM
Loughnane should be a co-commentator. That's where he does his best work.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on August 19, 2015, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 17, 2015, 09:49:57 PM
It's not an RTE thing. It is at the stage where almost every time you have a conversation with someone about the most recent football game, it starts with "That was shite yesterday, wasn't it?" or something similar.

Because they had numerous pundits telling them it was sh**e and so they (a) thought they should agree to appear knowledgeable, and (b) noticed the bad more as thats all that was talked about
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: paddyoslabs on August 19, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: deiseach on August 19, 2015, 10:17:33 AM
Loughnane should be a co-commentator. That's where he does his best work.

ah I  think Loughnane and Farrell could be put out to pasture now,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 19, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 19, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: deiseach on August 19, 2015, 10:17:33 AM
Loughnane should be a co-commentator. That's where he does his best work.

ah I  think Loughnane and Farrell could be put out to pasture now,

I always found Duignan to be a very good co-commentator.

But then I prefer pundits who point out the subtle stuff, that I probably missed, rather than those who point out the blatantly obvious, albeit in beautifully arranged flowery sentences.

I'll give an example.

The Deise were playing someone and Duignan was co-commentator. He told us that Dan the Man was at wing half forward and every time the opposition pucked the ball out he turned and sprinted towards the opposition goal. But the ball never came in. He reckoned Dan would keep doing it, but his marker would eventually get looser and looser in tracking him, as not a single ball had been hit towards him.

Sure enough in the 2nd half a long ball, returned straight off an opposition puck out, found Dan umarked and he buried it.

Just think of all the other commentators and pundits who would be questioning the marking or how Dan had brilliantly found space. But they wouldn't have had a clue where the goal game from, and neither would I for that matter.

Duignan understands the game is able to call stuff like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on August 19, 2015, 12:22:11 PM
Thought this was good on the hurling analysts

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/hurling-the-loser-when-apologists-rule-348840.html (http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/hurling-the-loser-when-apologists-rule-348840.html)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 19, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
I wasn't the biggest fan of Duignan (see: Forde, David) but my respect for him soared when Henry Shefflin opted to pop over the free he had late in 2012 draw with Galway to give Kilkenny a one-point lead rather than take the goal chance that was available. You can argue the toss over whether it was the right decision, but Duignan was utterly shocked and made it clear that he was utterly shocked. For having the courage to question the choice of the man universally known as King Henry rather than giving us a 'on the one hand...' spiel really made me warm to Duignan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 19, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
I think McStay is the top analyst for me. I actually rewatched our semi final in 05 versus Armagh last night and he did a great job as co-commentator. Although, reliving the euphoria probably clouded my judgement!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 19, 2015, 01:29:41 PM
Cyril Farrell has great time for the big 3 or 4 "traditional" hurling counties, less so for the rest
Farrell's stock answer for Dublin hurlers, is that they're all "manufactured hurlers". And if Dublin ever win a game, he always refers to their fitness and conditioning, never ability.

A typical example of this was early last Sunday they briefly discussed the two earlier minor matches. His comment on the Tipp - Dublin game was "ah Tipp had all the natural forwards". As if these Tipp lads don't get any coaching! (And not to mention that the best forward on the day from either team was probably Dublin's wing forward who knocked over 4 or 5 long rangers from play)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Cyril normally has great time for Offaly as well. Wristy hurlers as he calls them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stall the Bailer on August 19, 2015, 02:11:42 PM
I think a lot of the older pundits who haven't played or managed at high level in recent past, results in them having little connection with the current players/game.
What would they know about chasing skirt, studying for exams, dealing with unemployment, changing nappies, building a house and all the other things you could be doing while being an inter-county star. Then there are all the changes in current game that they had no exposure to or experience off. Social media, dieticians, video analysis, gym plans, change in tactics etc.
If they can't empathise or understand the current players and game,
How can they give us a knowledgeable insight in to it?
How can they even be passionate or positive about it?

Now not all recently retired players or managers make good pundits either. Some managers just come across as spoofers  (arseboxing..!). And not everyone has the communication skills or reading off a game that is needed for commentary/game analysis.  Like good players don't necessarily make good managers (different skill sets needed) the same can also be said of players and managers in relation to media work.

Some of the best I have found are those that brought something new to the game, like Jim McGuiness. Or those like Tony McEntee that highlights important parts of the tactics being used.   Or those that can give an insight to what players do or did in a game (like some of Dara Ó Sé stories)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 19, 2015, 03:21:40 PM
Duignan is excellent at seeing what goes on around the field, the positions, the switches, the duels. He doesn't just follow the ball. His weakness would be his knowledge of the rules and the high threshold he'd have for awarding a free.

The guys in studio. I'm not sure what Tomas Mulcahy offers these days. Whatever he was going to say, I'd say he said it years ago. Cyril Farrell plays it safe, but you'd warm to his enthusiasm. Loughnane is similar. He won't make any startling insights, but a great man to make games seem "epic".

Every panel needs a couple of recent retirees whose views are more to date on the more modern preparations and game plans. Cusack and Brennan are doing a good job right now, but may run of rope some time int he future.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 19, 2015, 03:31:56 PM
I know its trivial, but the manner of delivery matters so...McStay has a brilliant voice. The manner in which he barks everything out is just great, proper military bearing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 19, 2015, 06:26:16 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 19, 2015, 03:21:40 PM
Duignan is excellent at seeing what goes on around the field, the positions, the switches, the duels. He doesn't just follow the ball. His weakness would be his knowledge of the rules and the high threshold he'd have for awarding a free.

The guys in studio. I'm not sure what Tomas Mulcahy offers these days. Whatever he was going to say, I'd say he said it years ago. Cyril Farrell plays it safe, but you'd warm to his enthusiasm. Loughnane is similar. He won't make any startling insights, but a great man to make games seem "epic".

Every panel needs a couple of recent retirees whose views are more to date on the more modern preparations and game plans. Cusack and Brennan are doing a good job right now, but may run of rope some time int he future.

Mulcahy is supposed to be favourite for the Cork job if JBM doesn't continue, so he might be moving on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on August 19, 2015, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 18, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
The difference is that the hurling pundits aren't that long retired.  They get excited by the cut and thrust, the fights, the game and hence the commentary is better, more honest.  These old cranky football pundits are now so removed from football that they don't understand it.  That's why you had Pat Spillane getting excited by the Meath/Mayo brawl when he still had his  mojo.  They are taking the constraints of growing old out on the football-loving public of Ireland and rotting the heart out of the viewers who diligintly tune in to watch every week, only to be handed up sanctimonius tripe.

no long retired?tomas mulcahy,Loughnane,farrell,the like of eddie brennan is a breath of fresh air,also donal og and king henry,

Have to say I don't find any of them good at all. Just cliches and soundbytes

That's because, as with everything else, you think you could do it better. You're probably sitting in the house every Sunday aghast that they still haven't rug - do the really not know?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 19, 2015, 07:54:40 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 19, 2015, 07:03:03 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: paddyoslabs on August 18, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 17, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
The difference is that the hurling pundits aren't that long retired.  They get excited by the cut and thrust, the fights, the game and hence the commentary is better, more honest.  These old cranky football pundits are now so removed from football that they don't understand it.  That's why you had Pat Spillane getting excited by the Meath/Mayo brawl when he still had his  mojo.  They are taking the constraints of growing old out on the football-loving public of Ireland and rotting the heart out of the viewers who diligintly tune in to watch every week, only to be handed up sanctimonius tripe.

no long retired?tomas mulcahy,Loughnane,farrell,the like of eddie brennan is a breath of fresh air,also donal og and king henry,

Have to say I don't find any of them good at all. Just cliches and soundbytes

That's because, as with everything else, you think you could do it better. You're probably sitting in the house every Sunday aghast that they still haven't rug - do the really not know?

;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 19, 2015, 10:40:40 PM
Up yours Sunday Game

Ban thrown out

Ha ha
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 19, 2015, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 19, 2015, 10:40:40 PM
Up yours Sunday Game

Ban thrown out

Ha ha

Who exactly are you referring to when you speak of the Sunday Game? Who on the Sunday Game said he should be banned for 2 months??

If I'm not mistaken it was the bould Joe Brolly who said the ban was unlawful in the first place!!

Having it overturned doesn't make McCann any less culpable for what he did nor does it make the act he committed any less disgusting. Hopefully he gets a proper belt on Sunday and he won't have to dive this time!!

If he'd anything about him he'd have said it was stupid and that he did it in the heat of the moment and he was sorry and it would all have blown over!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 19, 2015, 11:13:30 PM
Sure why don't you  call for Finlay to hand himself over to An Gardai for his violent assault on Cavanagh



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: reddgnhand on August 19, 2015, 11:18:54 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 19, 2015, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 19, 2015, 10:40:40 PM
Up yours Sunday Game

Ban thrown out

Ha ha

Who exactly are you referring to when you speak of the Sunday Game? Who on the Sunday Game said he should be banned for 2 months??

If I'm not mistaken it was the bould Joe Brolly who said the ban was unlawful in the first place!!

Having it overturned doesn't make McCann any less culpable for what he did nor does it make the act he committed any less disgusting. Hopefully he gets a proper belt on Sunday and he won't have to dive this time!!

If he'd anything about him he'd have said it was stupid and that he did it in the heat of the moment and he was sorry and it would all have blown over!!

Did you call for Enda Lynn to say sorry when he got McGovern a red card this year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on August 20, 2015, 01:11:05 AM
Can say this for the second time........


Up yours Sunday Game

Appeal successful

Ha Ha !!!!!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 20, 2015, 02:00:00 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 20, 2015, 01:11:05 AM
Can say this for the second time........


Up yours Sunday Game

Appeal successful

Ha Ha !!!!!

Ha ha indeed.

I'd have banned his hairdresser instead tbh. I m sure Hughes was given an apology as well?

A head like that is asking to be smacked - let alone rubbed. Dived because somebody upset his 'look at me' do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2015, 08:20:04 AM
Meyler appeal successful too. Black card rescinded.

[Edit] Kevin Keane too.

Everyone gets off!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 20, 2015, 09:52:23 AM
Might as well abolish referees while they're at it.
How about the Monaghan lad that got a red for tossing McCheat's hair do?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 20, 2015, 09:59:30 AM
I'll be cheering for Tyrone on Sunday. But the idea that everyone is laughing at the authorities who tried, however hamfistedly, to do something about diving rather than laughing - and not in a haha way - at Tiernan McCann is, er, laughable. At least now we can stop talking about him as a victim and see him for what he really is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 10:01:05 AM
But deiseach they made themselves a laughing stock, that's the thing. And this was called from a long way out, i.e. the minute the suspension was announced.

Yes, deal with diving, but don't make a bollox of it like they did.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 20, 2015, 10:03:48 AM
You think they made themselves a laughing stock. I don't. When we are having the same goddamn discussion next year because no one is willing to grasp the nettle, we'll see who is laughing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 10:05:38 AM
Rubbish. Grasp the nettle at congress and do it correctly. If the GAA disciplinary structures are so flimsy and ad hoc, then that's a problem for the association to deal with properly. Not some sort of horseshite scattergun approach that decides who gets suspended based on what level of public outcry there is. That's not sustainable and IS laughable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 10:11:48 AM
I don't think that there is a sport in the world that even comes close to the GAA for u-turns, suspension appeals, card appeals etc. Its farcical at this stage. Appeal it and it will change.

They have made a complete mother and father of a balls of this. Applying a ban that wouldn't hold up and then overturning the other cards. Who'd be a ref and make the big calls.

Half of what goes on in the GAA seems to be played out behind closed doors. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 10:13:34 AM
I agree. And in case there's any confusion about this, I am 100% behind any proper rule brought in to increase penalties for diving. 100%. This suspension, and the belief I have about why this incident was picked, is what I had the problem with.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 20, 2015, 10:13:56 AM
The most laughable thing is the idea that this will be changed via Congress. Turkeys voting for Christmas and all that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 10:17:40 AM
Quote from: deiseach on August 20, 2015, 10:13:56 AM
The most laughable thing is the idea that this will be changed via Congress. Turkeys voting for Christmas and all that.

Then that's the real problem. But if they are happy with the rules as they stand, then at least have the fortitude to stand behind them when Colm O'Rourke or Twitter have a pop.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: deiseach on August 20, 2015, 10:13:56 AM
The most laughable thing is the idea that this will be changed via Congress. Turkeys voting for Christmas and all that.

Doesn't matter anyways. They can take the rule in. First player banned under it will appeal on a loophole or technicality whereby the fada is the wrong way on the refs report or the actual rule itself contradicts an old by-law introduced in 1934 regarding the correct shade of red used by referees.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
We were threatened with losing a game one time, at underage, because of a technicality too. The rule was that the teamsheet had to be in Irish, and our secretary hadn't a word, so he passed it around when the team was announced and you filled it in yourself. Our wing forward decided his name as gaeilge was Pionós Mac Phric.

Overturned on appeal as well :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 20, 2015, 10:46:15 AM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 10:11:48 AM
I don't think that there is a sport in the world that even comes close to the GAA for u-turns, suspension appeals, card appeals etc. Its farcical at this stage. Appeal it and it will change.

They have made a complete mother and father of a balls of this. Applying a ban that wouldn't hold up and then overturning the other cards. Who'd be a ref and make the big calls.

Half of what goes on in the GAA seems to be played out behind closed doors.

I've said this before but I think it's time the GAA rewrote it's whole rule book in consultation with legal experts so that every possible loop hole is closed and people getting off on technicalities because a ref ticked a wrong box or put the wrong date down, becomes a thing of the past.

Also, they need to make their decision making process much more transparent, like why the feck they decided to charge McCann in the first place, what went on for nearly 3 hours in the meeting and how they arrived at a decision to rescind a red card for a fella who blatantly punched another player. I'm glad Meyler got his black card rescinded but we need a clear explanation why this committee thought Duffy was wrong. Currently the whole thing is a pure joke and makes Sid's post regarding chocolate digestives on another thread seem highly feasible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 20, 2015, 10:49:51 AM
I think congress will deal with this next year and certainly need to. The McCann suspension was never going to be upheld and may have been proposed to make it easier to get a rule through congress next year. How Meyler or Keane got off though is more perplexing. They may have been of the softer variety but the weren't ridiculous decisions based on the rule book. The reason their cards were overturned needs to be explained.

EDIT: I agree Benny.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 20, 2015, 10:49:51 AM
I think congress will deal with this next year and certainly need to. The McCann suspension was never going to be upheld and may have been proposed to make it easier to get a rule through congress next year. How Meyler or Keane got off though is more perplexing. They may have been of the softer variety but the weren't ridiculous decisions based on the rule book. The reason their cards were overturned needs to be explained.

EDIT: I agree Benny.

Indeed. The Meyler one I don't understand at all he blatantly changed his run to collide with Hughes!!

I'd say it's a technicality where the video shows it was a 3rd man tackle and that he didn't actually pull Hughes down so there referee gave him the black card for the wrong offence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 20, 2015, 10:57:17 AM
Quote from: screenexileHopefully he gets a proper belt on Sunday and he won't have to dive this time!!

Lovely.  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 20, 2015, 11:00:10 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 20, 2015, 10:49:51 AM
. How Meyler or Keane got off though is more perplexing.  The reason their cards were overturned needs to be explained.

See my comment on another thread re a new rule of thumb  - if you're still in the Championship - rescind. If you're not - Card stays.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 12:17:27 PM
Meyler's was an obvious rescind.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 20, 2015, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: Bingo on August 20, 2015, 10:11:48 AM
I don't think that there is a sport in the world that even comes close to the GAA for u-turns, suspension appeals, card appeals etc. Its farcical at this stage. Appeal it and it will change.

They have made a complete mother and father of a balls of this. Applying a ban that wouldn't hold up and then overturning the other cards. Who'd be a ref and make the big calls.

Half of what goes on in the GAA seems to be played out behind closed doors.

Just a quick one on this club rugby in Ireland is the exact same, soccer doesn't seem to far behind either. Most organizations work off a framework when it comes to discipline and even precedence is open to interpretation. To me this was a test case and allows leverage for a rule change at congress.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 02:14:20 PM
CLub rugby seems a bit crazy at times too alright. Maybe we're a bit navel gazing here, but it seems a ludicrous situation. Everyone in the country (figuratively speaking) knew that this suspension would be overturned. Why on earth the CCCC didn't see this would boggle the mind.

Unless, as you say, they basically did this as a test case, so they could use the 'outrage' to bring a rule to congress. In which case they are Machiavellian beyond words :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weejim on August 20, 2015, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 20, 2015, 10:49:51 AM
I think congress will deal with this next year and certainly need to. The McCann suspension was never going to be upheld and may have been proposed to make it easier to get a rule through congress next year. How Meyler or Keane got off though is more perplexing. They may have been of the softer variety but the weren't ridiculous decisions based on the rule book. The reason their cards were overturned needs to be explained.

EDIT: I agree Benny.

Indeed. The Meyler one I don't understand at all he blatantly changed his run to collide with Hughes!!

I'd say it's a technicality where the video shows it was a 3rd man tackle and that he didn't actually pull Hughes down so there referee gave him the black card for the wrong offence.
I'd say you only saw the sunday game's biased opinion of this incident.? did you not see it analysed properly on sky where they agreed(and it clearly shows) that hughes was mostly to blame as he ran across into meylers path to take him out of the play.meyler simply reacted.
therefore it should have been a black for hughes and at most a yellow for meyler who did NOT put BOTH arms around hughes to pull him down
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
You don't need to put both arms around the opponent for a black card. You just have to deliberately pull him to the ground.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 20, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
You do not have to use both arms to pull a player down for it to be a black card. I only saw the highlights but I felt the Meyler could be interpreted as a black card for him. A soft one alright but one that could be given.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 20, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
It's funny how people see different things - I suppose it shows how difficult it is for a ref to interpret things in a split second. But I genuinely don't see how anyone can think Meyler was at fault in this instance. Hughes made 3 steps towards him and Meyler made 1 and in my view this was in order to ready himself for the hit. I genuinely can't see how anyone looking at it can think that Meyler was cynically trying to  take Hughes out of the play. His arm isn't even wrapped around him, I feel it's just the impact which led to his arm going onto the back. Meyler's game is to get back involved in the play, Hughes was going the opposite direction to the play. Hughes' eyes are 100% fixed on Meyler and he knows exactly what he is doing. The laughter by him afterwards suggested as much too.

The card was rightly rescinded in my opinion, but I would like a full explanation as to why, so we can put this debate to rest and know what's what for the future.

Once again, the issue highlights the difficultly for refs to decide intent. Can we imagine the carnage when after congress they have power to red card someone for diving! McCanns was obvious but not all are so cut and dry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 20, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
It's funny how people see different things - I suppose it shows how difficult it is for a ref to interpret things in a split second. But I genuinely don't see how anyone can think Meyler was at fault in this instance. Hughes made 3 steps towards him and Meyler made 1 and in my view this was I n order to ready himself for the hit. I genuinely can see  how anyone looking at it can think that Meyler was cynically trying to  take Hughes out of the play. His arm isn't even wrapped around him, I feel it's just the impact which led to his arm going onto the back. Meyler's game is to get back involved in the play, Hughes was going the opposite direction to the play. Hughes' eyes are 100% fixed on Meyler and he knows exactly what he is doing. The laughter by afterwards suggested as much too.

The card was rightly rescinded but I would like a full explanation as to why so we can put this debate to rest and know what's what for the future.

Once again, the issue highlights the difficultly for refs to decide intent. Can we imagine the carnage when after congress they have power to red card someone for diving! McCanns was obvious but not all are so cut and dry.

I think Hughes was missing Meyler if he had just continued his run. If Hughes didn't miss him I think black card would have went to the Monaghan man.

The problem comes when Meyler moves towards Hughes and then tries to wrap his arms around him.

As for the other poster talking about me watching the Sunday game bias I called this during the game and I actually don't have access to RTE so never saw a jot of there coverage. Sky coverage was very much led down a certain path by Canavan who pushed the notion that Meyler was more sinned against than the sinner!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 04:06:17 PM
Meyler changed direction to make sure he collided with the Monaghan lad. I think he was trying to engineer a black card for the Monaghan player. I'm not so sure how that can be interpreted as a black card for Meyler though, as I don't think he pulled him down. I suppose you could say that he was taking the Monaghan man out (i.e. the same foul he was trying to engineer for the Monaghan guy) but I've never seen that given to a member of the attacking team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 04:09:48 PM
Looked to me like Meyler pulled his opponent down.  But he did at least change direction and run into an opponent who didn't have the ball, which is still a black card.

Can't for the life of me see how anyone can think the Monaghan lad should have gotten a black card.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 20, 2015, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2015, 04:06:17 PM
Meyler changed direction to make sure he collided with the Monaghan lad. I think he was trying to engineer a black card for the Monaghan player. I'm not so sure how that can be interpreted as a black card for Meyler though, as I don't think he pulled him down. I suppose you could say that he was taking the Monaghan man out (i.e. the same foul he was trying to engineer for the Monaghan guy) but I've never seen that given to a member of the attacking team.

That's my interpretation too, Meyler was trying to get the Monaghan man black carded.

QuoteCan we imagine the carnage when after congress they have power to red card someone for diving! McCanns was obvious but not all are so cut and dry.

I hope that's not the solution. I hope it's retrospective bans so that referees are not put into the position of adjudicating on diving as well. The problem though with some referees, like Marty Duffy, is they seem to guess what happened rather than act only on what they know happened.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 04:48:40 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 20, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
It's funny how people see different things - I suppose it shows how difficult it is for a ref to interpret things in a split second. But I genuinely don't see how anyone can think Meyler was at fault in this instance. Hughes made 3 steps towards him and Meyler made 1 and in my view this was in order to ready himself for the hit. I genuinely can't see how anyone looking at it can think that Meyler was cynically trying to  take Hughes out of the play. His arm isn't even wrapped around him, I feel it's just the impact which led to his arm going onto the back. Meyler's game is to get back involved in the play, Hughes was going the opposite direction to the play. Hughes' eyes are 100% fixed on Meyler and he knows exactly what he is doing. The laughter by him afterwards suggested as much too.

The card was rightly rescinded in my opinion, but I would like a full explanation as to why, so we can put this debate to rest and know what's what for the future.

Once again, the issue highlights the difficultly for refs to decide intent. Can we imagine the carnage when after congress they have power to red card someone for diving! McCanns was obvious but not all are so cut and dry.
If it was so clear cut Duffy would have given him a yellow card and not have sent off Hughes, it wasn't clear cut for Duffy.
Very easy to tell from a TV replay, but refs don't have this benefit though. Fouls can be hard to determine but diving is more difficult. As you need to be sure there was no or minimal contact and even then you can't rule out injuries like a pulled muscle, especially if he is faking an injury to the legs.
Can anyone reminder when a yellow card was handed out for diving?
The only way you could do it safely is by citing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weejim on August 20, 2015, 05:25:45 PM
duffy hadn't the benefit of replays. the sunday game panelists had 30hours and several different camera angles to see that meyler gave the pass, changed direction to avoid contact while going for the return. hughes then moves sideways to obstruct meylers run. actually if meyler hadn't moved towards him it would have been even more obvious that hughes was launching himself straight at meyler.
SHAME ON YOUSE COLM OROURKE N CIARAN WHELAN FOR TRYING TO CREATE THE PERCECTION THAT TYRONE WERE SOLELY TO BLAME FOR EVERYTHING
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 20, 2015, 06:11:43 PM
Them chips are getting bigger ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2015, 07:23:36 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2015, 06:11:43 PM
Them chips are getting bigger ;D

It's more chip than shoulder at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

Why would Sean Cavanagh sprint across to tackle a lad who had laid the ball off about 5 seconds ago unless he was going looking for trouble?

The bitterness some people have against Tyrone really inhibits them from making any sort of logical sense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on August 20, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

Why would Sean Cavanagh sprint across to tackle a lad who had laid the ball off about 5 seconds ago unless he was going looking for trouble?

The bitterness some people have against Tyrone really inhibits them from making any sort of logical sense.

Read it again Einstein!

He's backing Tyrone and providing a scenario if it happened elsewhere
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 20, 2015, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

Why would Sean Cavanagh sprint across to tackle a lad who had laid the ball off about 5 seconds ago unless he was going looking for trouble?

The bitterness some people have against Tyrone really inhibits them from making any sort of logical sense.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 20, 2015, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: Bensars on August 20, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

Why would Sean Cavanagh sprint across to tackle a lad who had laid the ball off about 5 seconds ago unless he was going looking for trouble?

The bitterness some people have against Tyrone really inhibits them from making any sort of logical sense.

Read it again Einstein!

He's backing Tyrone and providing a scenario if it happened elsewhere

Jaysis bomber :o

Even at the height of my howling and finger pointing last week I dont think I wudda read that as having a dig at big Sean
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

I am no fan of tyrone but fully agree with this about Meyler - don't understand why so few see it like this! I can understand why the ref made the decision as it was a split second interpretation but looking back not a black at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 20, 2015, 08:36:22 PM
Quote from: Bensars on August 20, 2015, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 07:52:56 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

Why would Sean Cavanagh sprint across to tackle a lad who had laid the ball off about 5 seconds ago unless he was going looking for trouble?

The bitterness some people have against Tyrone really inhibits them from making any sort of logical sense.

Read it again Einstein!

He's backing Tyrone and providing a scenario if it happened elsewhere

Jaysis bomber :o

Even at the height of my howling and finger pointing last week I dont think I wudda read that as having a dig at big Sean

Neither did I. Duffy made an incredible decision to black card Meyler for that incident, only a referee of his incompetence would have done that. Cavanagh is not stupid enough to put himself in the position Hughes did.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Highlander3 on August 20, 2015, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

I am no fan of tyrone but fully agree with this about Meyler - don't understand why so few see it like this! I can understand why the ref made the decision as it was a split second interpretation but looking back not a black at all.

Totally agree with your comment here and can't really understand why more people don't see it like this, felt sorry for Meyler
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 08:52:38 PM
Oh dear.

Apologies, the amount of unjust flak and blame that has came our way has pre-conditioned my mindset into defensive state.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 08:52:38 PM
Oh dear.

Apologies, the amount of unjust flak and blame that has came our way has pre-conditioned my mindset into defensive state.

'Tis called a siege mentality and its well noted you lads have suffered it since Paddy Russel on '95!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 20, 2015, 09:20:04 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2015, 09:13:59 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 08:52:38 PM
Oh dear.

Apologies, the amount of unjust flak and blame that has came our way has pre-conditioned my mindset into defensive state.

'Tis called a siege mentality and its well noted you lads have suffered it since Paddy Russel on '95!!

Preferable to the in-fighting u lot have

In-bred-in-fighting
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: reddgnhand on August 20, 2015, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 20, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
The Meyler incident is crazy. In my opinion he altered his run at the last minute as it looked like Kieran Hughes was going to continue with his run straight through Conor Meyler. It looked to me like Meyler was protecting himself.

Imagine this.....

Jack Mc Caffrey breaks out of the Dublin defence in the All Ireland final (a la Conor Meyler v Monaghan), Sean Cavanagh sprints across the field to tackle him (a la Kieran Hughes v Tyrone). Mc Caffrey pops off a handpass before colliding with Cavanagh (exactly as the incident involving Meyler and Hughes) and as the ref awards a free to Tyrone and a black card to Mc Caffrey the RTE cameras show a laughing Sean Cavanagh. JUST IMAGINE THE UPROAR!!!!

I am no fan of tyrone but fully agree with this about Meyler - don't understand why so few see it like this! I can understand why the ref made the decision as it was a split second interpretation but looking back not a black at all.

The "Im no fan of Tyrone" quote. I always laugh when I see it. Is someone standing behind you whilst you type? 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Meyler was completely innocent and very hard done by.

Sean cavanagh's balance when he's inside the opposition 45 and not looking like he'll get a score sickens me.

Must have had two people from different places standing behind me there  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: reddgnhand on August 20, 2015, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Meyler was completely innocent and very hard done by.

Sean cavanagh's balance when he's inside the opposition 45 and not looking like he'll get a score sickens me.

Must have had two people from different places standing behind me there  ;D

One over each shoulder?  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 23, 2015, 03:56:01 PM
Carney and Canning..  :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 23, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
Colm doesn't like tyrone at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 23, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 23, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
Colm doesn't like tyrone at all.

Who does?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: getevennotcross on August 23, 2015, 05:35:47 PM
That Brolley is one overbearing and abnoxious little runt. He thinks he knows it all. Ciaran Whealan should slap the wee Deery hoor. A total embarassment to wee folk from the north.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 23, 2015, 05:37:37 PM
Seriously, something has to be done about the RTE commentary.
How many red bulls is Carney drinking before the game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
An innnnncccrrreeeedddddddibbbblllleeeee amount
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on August 23, 2015, 06:09:31 PM
Did I hear carney say that one team executed a choke tackle on a player in possession ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bridgegael on August 23, 2015, 06:18:55 PM
"it must be said"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 23, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
RTE's coverage needs cleaned out. Commentator and pundits. It's still stuck in the 80's.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 23, 2015, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 23, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
RTE's coverage needs cleaned out. Commentator and pundits. It's still stuck in the 80's.

Yeah the 1880's! They seem ruthless when it comes to Brendan O'Connor or Marty Whealan (every half decade or so). The only theory is that these guys are cheap? If they are they sure live up their price.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on August 23, 2015, 06:40:21 PM
Quote from: Gmac on August 23, 2015, 06:09:31 PM
Did I hear carney say that one team executed a choke tackle on a player in possession ?

He sure did  ;D He's one that definitely has to go for me,during the game there were actually times i floated off in my head writing out in my mind the complaint i was going to send to Rte sport that this stuttering and mumbling fool is somehow still getting paid to talk absolute drivel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 23, 2015, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 23, 2015, 05:37:37 PM
Seriously, something has to be done about the RTE commentary.
How many red bulls is Carney drinking before the game?

Carney was insufferable today. He spent the whole game praising tyrones style of play and their determination and barely gave kerrys qualities a mention.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 23, 2015, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2015, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 23, 2015, 05:37:37 PM
Seriously, something has to be done about the RTE commentary.
How many red bulls is Carney drinking before the game?

Carney was insufferable today. He spent the whole game praising tyrones style of play and their determination and barely gave kerrys qualities a mention.

Canning must of thought he was watching some sort of movie the way he constantly used the word "stroking" today  ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 23, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
RTE's coverage needs cleaned out. Commentator and pundits. It's still stuck in the 80's.

Nothing wrong with the 80s, a great decade.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 23, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
I really miss the days when you could turn the sound down and listen to Micheál.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
I just turn to Sky. The three lads on RTE in their shiney shoes all trying to shout over one another to say their pre-scripted spiels. Switch to Sky and they're saying things like, " I actually have to disagree with Jimmy because X,Y,Z ".. Almost civilised.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2015, 07:53:49 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on August 23, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
I really miss the days when you could turn the sound down and listen to Micheál.

For years I thought doing this was called 'canning'.

When we were kids and sat down to watch a match, the auld fella would suddenly shouts expletives at the TV along with 'canning, canning!' and then do the above.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
I just turn to Sky. The three lads on RTE in their shiney shoes all trying to shout over one another to say their pre-scripted spiels. Switch to Sky and they're saying things like, " I actually have to disagree with Jimmy because X,Y,Z ".. Almost civilised.
Sky have just continued with the TV3 template and added a bit more.
BBC NI pundits also have decent discussions, albeit in a more minimalist traditional setting.
It's easy for them both, they just look at rte and see what they shouldn't do.

On rte,  Whelan and O'Rourke  were considered in what they 'pundited' and didn't shout over each other, it's Brolly who's the fox in the hen house.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on August 23, 2015, 08:50:27 PM

Hawkeye really should be called on to decide on 45s

Jesus Christ
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 23, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
Like Carney. Wonder how he will react if he ever comes across some malice in a tackle.

Camera work/ angles/ replays of major incidents  not good enough today imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 23, 2015, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 23, 2015, 09:09:07 PM
Like Carney. Wonder how he will react if he ever comes across some malice in a tackle.

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 23, 2015, 08:50:27 PM

Hawkeye really should be called on to decide on 45s

Jesus Christ

I think the time has come for Hawkeye to be promoted to ref.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on August 23, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
Not showing the penalty incident involving mcnulty and omahoney
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 23, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
I just turn to Sky. The three lads on RTE in their shiney shoes all trying to shout over one another to say their pre-scripted spiels. Switch to Sky and they're saying things like, " I actually have to disagree with Jimmy because X,Y,Z ".. Almost civilised.
Sky have just continued with the TV3 template and added a bit more.
BBC NI pundits also have decent discussions, albeit in a more minimalist traditional setting.
It's easy for them both, they just look at rte and see what they shouldn't do.

On rte,  Whelan and O'Rourke  were considered in what they 'pundited' and didn't shout over each other, it's Brolly who's the fox in the hen house.

On RTE at one stage today they were discussing some competition for a trip to the US, which prompted me to switch over to Sky where they were discussing the Tyrone kickout strategy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 23, 2015, 09:59:29 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 23, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
Not showing the penalty incident involving mcnulty and omahoney

Hmmm... Forgot about that.

TSG are increasingly becoming the GAA's propaganda machine.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Schkite on August 23, 2015, 10:01:47 PM
McStay thinks short kick-outs can be " very sexy"!  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 23, 2015, 10:04:06 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 23, 2015, 09:59:29 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 23, 2015, 09:51:06 PM
Not showing the penalty incident involving mcnulty and omahoney

Hmmm... Forgot about that.

TSG are increasingly becoming the GAA's propaganda machine.

Have they finished analysing the game yet?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 23, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Refreshing excellent and honest Analysis on SG tonight no hysteria and fair. RTE need to have a look at the other clowns who they have on and bin them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 23, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
Yeah, decent enough tonight
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 23, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
The look on McStay's face when Brian McGuigan was coming out with his defence of Tyrone.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 23, 2015, 10:17:05 PM
Good to see Brian is as paranoid as the rest of you, G its like the orange order, everybody to blame but them!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on August 23, 2015, 10:17:54 PM
Fair enough, the penalty incident was analysed in the studio. Strange it wasn't covered during the game as it was a big call
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 23, 2015, 10:20:35 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 23, 2015, 10:17:05 PM
Good to see Brian is as paranoid as the rest of you, G its like the orange order, everybody to blame but them!!

Some of the stuff on the "persecution" of McCann the last while has been comedy gold - you'd swear the way Tyrone were going on he was actually completely innocent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 23, 2015, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 23, 2015, 08:50:27 PM

Hawkeye really should be called on to decide on 45s

Jesus Christ

I think the time has come for Hawkeye to be promoted to ref.

Let it do the commentary as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BluestackBoy on August 23, 2015, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 23, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
I just turn to Sky. The three lads on RTE in their shiney shoes all trying to shout over one another to say their pre-scripted spiels. Switch to Sky and they're saying things like, " I actually have to disagree with Jimmy because X,Y,Z ".. Almost civilised.
Sky have just continued with the TV3 template and added a bit more.
BBC NI pundits also have decent discussions, albeit in a more minimalist traditional setting.
It's easy for them both, they just look at rte and see what they shouldn't do.

On rte,  Whelan and O'Rourke  were considered in what they 'pundited' and didn't shout over each other, it's Brolly who's the fox in the hen house.

On RTE at one stage today they were discussing some competition for a trip to the US, which prompted me to switch over to Sky where they were discussing the Tyrone kickout strategy.

Same here, those fecking competitions, who in the name of God thinks they are a good idea?

They are all over RTE, tv & radio, but I've never seen any other station doing them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2015, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 23, 2015, 10:47:12 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2015, 09:43:00 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 23, 2015, 08:50:27 PM

Hawkeye really should be called on to decide on 45s

Jesus Christ

I think the time has come for Hawkeye to be promoted to ref.

Let it do the commentary as well.

And the Rose of Tralee.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on August 23, 2015, 10:55:05 PM
The "analysis" of where Kerry's points game from beyond the Tyrone defensive wall was hilarious. Des got all giddy and I thought we were going to see how Kerry moved players and the ball beyond Tyrone defence.
Then we get shown an image with the locations of the kicked points and frees.....that's it. Great work lads.... ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on August 23, 2015, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 23, 2015, 10:47:53 PM

Same here, those fecking competitions, who in the name of God thinks they are a good idea?

They are all over RTE, tv & radio, but I've never seen any other station doing them.

The RTE accountants I imagine. The companies who sponsor and promote the competitions, pay RTE a hefty amount of money to place their products as the prize on shows that get high ratings, such as The Late Late and The Sunday Game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
I thought McGuigan did well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 23, 2015, 11:38:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
I thought McGuigan did well.

He did. My new favourite pundit after he predicted a Mayo win v Dublin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 11:50:06 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 23, 2015, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 23, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
I just turn to Sky. The three lads on RTE in their shiney shoes all trying to shout over one another to say their pre-scripted spiels. Switch to Sky and they're saying things like, " I actually have to disagree with Jimmy because X,Y,Z ".. Almost civilised.
Sky have just continued with the TV3 template and added a bit more.
BBC NI pundits also have decent discussions, albeit in a more minimalist traditional setting.
It's easy for them both, they just look at rte and see what they shouldn't do.

On rte,  Whelan and O'Rourke  were considered in what they 'pundited' and didn't shout over each other, it's Brolly who's the fox in the hen house.

On RTE at one stage today they were discussing some competition for a trip to the US, which prompted me to switch over to Sky where they were discussing the Tyrone kickout strategy.

Same here, those fecking competitions, who in the name of God thinks they are a good idea?

They are all over RTE, tv & radio, but I've never seen any other station doing them.
Tony from Armagh loves those competitions and  he's a winner.

I could be exposed to just as good punditry from the same suspects on TV3 and not have to pay an extra subscription fee for the pleasure.  it's not Sky that's brilliant, it's just that they haven't Brolly or Spillane. The Sky match commentary in no better than rte, the sky guy (forget his name) ex tv3,   drives me nuts anyway and his particular culchee accent is the pits.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 24, 2015, 12:17:43 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 11:50:06 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 23, 2015, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 23, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 23, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 23, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
I just turn to Sky. The three lads on RTE in their shiney shoes all trying to shout over one another to say their pre-scripted spiels. Switch to Sky and they're saying things like, " I actually have to disagree with Jimmy because X,Y,Z ".. Almost civilised.
Sky have just continued with the TV3 template and added a bit more.
BBC NI pundits also have decent discussions, albeit in a more minimalist traditional setting.
It's easy for them both, they just look at rte and see what they shouldn't do.

On rte,  Whelan and O'Rourke  were considered in what they 'pundited' and didn't shout over each other, it's Brolly who's the fox in the hen house.

On RTE at one stage today they were discussing some competition for a trip to the US, which prompted me to switch over to Sky where they were discussing the Tyrone kickout strategy.

Same here, those fecking competitions, who in the name of God thinks they are a good idea?

They are all over RTE, tv & radio, but I've never seen any other station doing them.
Tony from Armagh loves those competitions and  he's a winner.

I could be exposed to just as good punditry from the same suspects on TV3 and not have to pay an extra subscription fee for the pleasure.  it's not Sky that's brilliant, it's just that they haven't Brolly or Spillane. The Sky match commentary in no better than rte, the sky guy (forget his name) ex tv3,   drives me nuts anyway and his particular culchee accent is the pits.

Didn't know you were a Dub Mainstreet

I suspect you are talking about Mike Finnerty maybe? I'm not gone on his commentary either tbh. Not at all. Wen t from local sports journalism (good) to local radio match commentary ( I doubt they do auditions for this kind of stuff). Then he got the gigs on Setanta and TV3 and now Sky. You could say he has a voice for newspapers though. Sound fella all the same.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on August 24, 2015, 12:26:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
I thought McGuigan did well.

You are kidding me,  was cringing for him on his 100 year fight bullshite rant, get on with it ffs ye clowns .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 12:31:32 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2015, 12:26:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
I thought McGuigan did well.

You are kidding me,  was cringing for him on his 100 year fight bullshite rant, get on with it ffs ye clowns .

What?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 24, 2015, 12:53:55 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2015, 12:26:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
I thought McGuigan did well.

You are kidding me,  was cringing for him on his 100 year fight bullshite rant, get on with it ffs ye clowns .

I dunno Lar. Think he had a point. Thought Tyrone today were on the end of a systematic approach to target and foul - if necessary-  the top Tyrone players ( Even Tomás O Sé pointed it out but dressed it up in a nice way). Tyrone got their success the hard way against the old money brigade ( we're talking about Dublin and Kerry here tbh). Spillane wouldn t have come out with 'puke football' if Tyrone had beaten a Mayo team that day in '03. The spin from him then would be more likely about a spineless Mayo performance.
Thought Harte got an awful lot right again today and a few crucial decisions (even beyond the cards and the peno/45 decisions went against them). They also mixed a very solid approach with several poor malfunctions. McNabb handed over 2 easy frees with silly undisciplined tackling. One defo goal chance was blown and another could chance could have been put away too. Scores that would have given Tyrone momentum, and possibly the game. I thought Kerry were very stretched at times today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Red eye on August 24, 2015, 08:24:11 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 24, 2015, 12:53:55 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2015, 12:26:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2015, 11:01:43 PM
I thought McGuigan did well.

You are kidding me,  was cringing for him on his 100 year fight bullshite rant, get on with it ffs ye clowns .

I dunno Lar. Think he had a point. Thought Tyrone today were on the end of a systematic approach to target and foul - if necessary-  the top Tyrone players ( Even Tomás O Sé pointed it out but dressed it up in a nice way). Tyrone got their success the hard way against the old money brigade ( we're talking about Dublin and Kerry here tbh). Spillane wouldn t have come out with 'puke football' if Tyrone had beaten a Mayo team that day in '03. The spin from him then would be more likely about a spineless Mayo performance.
Thought Harte got an awful lot right again today and a few crucial decisions (even beyond the cards and the peno/45 decisions went against them). They also mixed a very solid approach with several poor malfunctions. McNabb handed over 2 easy frees with silly undisciplined tackling. One defo goal chance was blown and another could chance could have been put away too. Scores that would have given Tyrone momentum, and possibly the game. I thought Kerry were very stretched at times today.

Thought Tyrone, irrespective of the decisions that may have gone against them left it behind. Missed too many chances and could have won if free taker / Niall Morgan had been on song.
Re Brian McGuigan - yes spoke well but from memory he wasn't averse to a bit of skulduggery in his time - one that still sticks was v Greg McCartan - but moving on he acquitted himself well on SG.
Looking forward to next Sunday now and as alluded to Kerry will need to tighten up a defence that can be exposed when they are ran at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
Re refs being biased against Tyrone, the same thing used to happen to us and we never complained about it.
We had a reputation for manliness that preceded us.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 24, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
Re refs being biased against Tyrone, the same thing used to happen to us and we never complained about it.
We had a reputation for manliness that preceded us.
Until yis got the inevitable man sent off. After that the refs gave yis everything!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southdown on August 24, 2015, 09:25:41 AM
I'm watching Sky from now on.  The Brolly v Wheelan saga of talking over each other is hard to follow, cringeworthy and simply crap.  It reminds of the Nolan show on BBC NI. O'Rourke can't get a word in.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 24, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
In fairness to RTE they gave Tyrone a right to reply but I thought Brian McGuigan didn't do a great job. "media were unfair" is the usual line wheeled out by Tyrone. From an RTE viewpoint its hard to give a right to reply when their manager won't speak to them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bingo on August 24, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
Didn't watch the Sunday Game last night but have to agree with the comments on the RTE live coverage. Its pointless at this stage with constant talking over each other, Brolly trying to make predetermined points about the greater good and Whelan looking like he pulled up a primary school chair and is sitting uncomfortably in it while trying not to look out of place.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rudi on August 24, 2015, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
We had a reputation for manliness that preceded us.

Till the celtic tiger came along  :) ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 24, 2015, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
Re refs being biased against Tyrone, the same thing used to happen to us and we never complained about it.
We had a reputation for manliness that preceded us.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 24, 2015, 08:25:11 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2015, 08:32:15 AM
Re refs being biased against Tyrone, the same thing used to happen to us and we never complained about it.
We had a reputation for manliness that preceded us.

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 24, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
What's Colm O'Rourke's obsession with 'manliness' about anyways? It always sounds equal parts hilarious and homoerotic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 24, 2015, 09:13:58 PM
Probably cause he played on a team full of men sprinkled with a few maniacs in the mix as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 24, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
Best thing that could happen was for O`Rourke to take out his manliness on Brolly, hes the GAA equivalent of Wrestling mouth from the south Jimmy Hart, just can stand his rudeness any more.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 24, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
Best thing that could happen was for O`Rourke to take out his manliness on Brolly, hes the GAA equivalent of Wrestling mouth from the south Jimmy Hart, just can stand his rudeness any more.

Houl on, Joe went to a referee workshop.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 24, 2015, 11:28:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
What's Colm O'Rourke's obsession with 'manliness' about anyways? It always sounds equal parts hilarious and homoerotic.

;D
Would love for him to spell it out for us someday
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2015, 09:27:35 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
What's Colm O'Rourke's obsession with 'manliness' about anyways? It always sounds equal parts hilarious and homoerotic.

It's a Meath thing.
You wouldn't understand.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2015, 09:28:13 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 24, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
Best thing that could happen was for O`Rourke to take out his manliness on Brolly, hes the GAA equivalent of Wrestling mouth from the south Jimmy Hart, just can stand his rudeness any more.

Houl on, Joe went to a referee workshop.

Really?
He kept that quiet.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2015, 11:58:20 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 25, 2015, 09:28:13 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 24, 2015, 09:19:36 PM
Best thing that could happen was for O`Rourke to take out his manliness on Brolly, hes the GAA equivalent of Wrestling mouth from the south Jimmy Hart, just can stand his rudeness any more.

Houl on, Joe went to a referee workshop.

Really?
He kept that quiet.

Can someone put a Cake arrow to show where this theory completely breaks down please?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 25, 2015, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: ck on August 24, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
In fairness to RTE they gave Tyrone a right to reply but I thought Brian McGuigan didn't do a great job. "media were unfair" is the usual line wheeled out by Tyrone. From an RTE viewpoint its hard to give a right to reply when their manager won't speak to them.

I agree, thought he came across very biased and if given another chance on the show he'll need to be more impartial.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 25, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/aogan-o-fearghail-predictable-criticism-from-the-sunday-game-now-tiresome-350066.html

QuoteGAA president Aogán Ó Fearghail says The Sunday Game has become "predictable" and "tiresome" in its negativity.

Ó Fearghail also defended Tyrone's sense of grievance with how they have been portrayed in some quarters, such as The Sunday Game.

On the programme last Sunday week, Colm O'Rourke said there was "a bad smell" associated with Tyrone because of some of their on-field behaviour.

Asked if the former Meath star's comments discredited the GAA, Ó Fearghail said: "It possibly is. It's discrediting of the people themselves."

Ó Fearghail has twice criticised The Sunday Game during this championship, taking issue with Joe Brolly and Shane Curran.

"I did say it before and I would still say it again: I think some of The Sunday Game commentary is unfair. But at this stage it's predictable and in fairness it's consistent in its negativity. So it's fairly predictable. It's tiresome, I find.

"When people talk about smells or nastiness or anything like that, I just find it unhelpful in our sport.

"I like analysis where people say something is wrong and where they point out that something could be improved. There's nothing wrong with that but using that type of language is not something I like."

Ó Fearghail said The Sunday Game's analysis may be a consideration when the next round of media rights come up at the end of next season.

It was a live issue last year after Prime Time's coverage of the GAA's decision to award exclusive rights to Sky Sports for 14 games. "It might be. It could be an issue."


He refused to criticise the Central Competition Control Committee's decision to propose an eight-week ban for Tiernan McCann for bringing the association into disrepute, which was later overturned by the Central Hearings Committee (CHC). However, he agrees that Tyrone have been treated unfairly in the media.

"I wouldn't particularly comment on a specific case but I can understand why Tyrone feel, in general, a little aggrieved because I would share that. I feel myself as an Ulsterman, at times, Ulster counties and Tyrone do feel that they get a particularly negative criticism. But, at the same time, every county has to accept that if some of their members do something that isn't correct. In the (McCann) case, the committee (CHC) did find that there was a yellow card warranted so therefore it's proven that something wrong happened."

Ó Fearghail feels Ulster teams were patronised before they started winning All-Ireland titles again in the noughties although he doesn't buy the "southern media" contention cited in Tyrone.

"I think one of the greatest critics Tyrone have (Joe Brolly) is very much part of a northern jurisdiction. I wouldn't be into where the criticism emanates from. Look, new kids on the block do sometimes get criticism. Tyrone were like many Ulster counties that I certainly remember. I've been coming to All-Irelands since 1973 and Ulster counties generally, always in my memory, just came down and got well beaten.

"I shouldn't have been but I was in dressing rooms where people would say, 'Well done lads, you are doing a great job up there, we know how hard it is and keep it up'. That was unfortunate but now that they've started to do well, then there's a little bit of an edge to some commentary. It was a little patronising for a long time when I was involved in the Ulster Council for 25 years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on August 25, 2015, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
What's Colm O'Rourke's obsession with 'manliness' about anyways? It always sounds equal parts hilarious and homoerotic.

Now I have this image of O'Rourke and Brolly discussing the morality of eating oysters and snails...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on August 25, 2015, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 25, 2015, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: ck on August 24, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
In fairness to RTE they gave Tyrone a right to reply but I thought Brian McGuigan didn't do a great job. "media were unfair" is the usual line wheeled out by Tyrone. From an RTE viewpoint its hard to give a right to reply when their manager won't speak to them.

I agree, thought he came across very biased and if given another chance on the show he'll need to be more impartial.

Are ye feckin serious... d'ya want him to get the Kerry Head band scarf and Jersey on next time.. holy God some people just cant be pleased
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 25, 2015, 03:14:32 PM
Quote from: deiseach on August 25, 2015, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
What's Colm O'Rourke's obsession with 'manliness' about anyways? It always sounds equal parts hilarious and homoerotic.

Now I have this image of O'Rourke and Brolly discussing the morality of eating oysters and snails...

Talk about nightmare fuel....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mikhailov on August 25, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 25, 2015, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: ck on August 24, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
In fairness to RTE they gave Tyrone a right to reply but I thought Brian McGuigan didn't do a great job. "media were unfair" is the usual line wheeled out by Tyrone. From an RTE viewpoint its hard to give a right to reply when their manager won't speak to them.

I agree, thought he came across very biased and if given another chance on the show he'll need to be more impartial.

Lads, catch yourself on - he openly admitted that Maurice Deegan had a good game and stated also that the 2nd penalty was never a penalty. What do you expect him to do - pay homage to the Gooch and all things Kingdom. For a debut on TV, I felt he done well and was put under the microscope when Des fired the usual question at him regarding the 'Tyrone mindset and paranoia'. FFS surely Des can come up with a different question to ask rather than the usual bullshit effort which every Tyrone man on TV or radio appears to have to explain this last 2 weeks - no wonder some people suggest there is paranoia when all the media do is refer to it!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 25, 2015, 09:27:35 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 24, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
What's Colm O'Rourke's obsession with 'manliness' about anyways? It always sounds equal parts hilarious and homoerotic.

It's a Meath thing.
You wouldn't understand.

In fairness a man from Aughavas in Leitrim wouldn't understand it either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on August 25, 2015, 04:03:53 PM
Well when you don't little else but blame the media and claim bias don't be surprised if people want that explained every time they have a chance to ask.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tyrone Split on August 29, 2015, 08:27:00 PM
Evening all. Simple question - I have RTE available through my sky box on ch. 162, but don't have the sports package.

Do you know if the Sunday game coverage of tomorrow's match will therefore blocked out by sky in the same way as it often does with the champions league coverage? Cant mind what's happened with previous matches ! Cheers
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2015, 08:29:36 PM
No, it'll be fine.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
Oisin goes for Dublin. Listening to him and reflecting on the fact that Da Bollix is on the panel and Oisin is in the stand would make you give your head a shake.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: glens73 on August 30, 2015, 03:29:33 PM
Ah no - what's happened to Carney? and Ger Canning?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nigel White on August 30, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
Joe is off again " if this was Monaghan or Tyrone we'd be saying it was a pile of shite"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 30, 2015, 05:53:26 PM
Ciaran Whelan to be calling for Cooper and McMahon to come out and apologise tonight?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nigel White on August 30, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
Joe is off again " if this was Monaghan or Tyrone we'd be saying it was a pile of shite"

Watched the game on Sky but just saw this on Twitter. Seriously like, the fella is a barrister and should have enough experience to be able to control what he says and pick his words more carefully. There's no need for language like that when "analysing" a match and the only conclusion I can arrive at is that again he's seeking some form of notoriety. The man really is an embarrassment to RTE in my view at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on August 30, 2015, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nigel White on August 30, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
Joe is off again " if this was Monaghan or Tyrone we'd be saying it was a pile of shite"

Watched the game on Sky but just saw this on Twitter. Seriously like, the fella is a barrister and should have enough experience to be able to control what he says and pick his words more carefully. There's no need for language like that when "analysing" a match and the only conclusion I can arrive at is that again he's seeking some form of notoriety. The man really is an embarrassment to RTE in my view at this stage.

The problem you have though is that on this occasion, like many, he was right in what he was saying.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on August 30, 2015, 06:02:50 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nigel White on August 30, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
Joe is off again " if this was Monaghan or Tyrone we'd be saying it was a pile of shite"

Watched the game on Sky but just saw this on Twitter. Seriously like, the fella is a barrister and should have enough experience to be able to control what he says and pick his words more carefully. There's no need for language like that when "analysing" a match and the only conclusion I can arrive at is that again he's seeking some form of notoriety. The man really is an embarrassment to RTE in my view at this stage.

The problem you have though is that on this occasion, like many, he was right in what he was saying.

Maybe on this occasion he was right but with kids watching in mid afternoon, he should not be using language like that just to get himself even more notoriety! I'm not trying to do a "will somebody think if the children" rant here but combined with his sexual innuendo reference last week, I just don't think RTE can continue to employ someone who clearly can't control his language...or chooses not to control it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on August 30, 2015, 06:35:34 PM

Are people still watching these boys?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 30, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
I only un-mute the volume when I see Colm's lips moving.
By the way, this thing Brolly does where he physically reaches his arm across somebody while they're trying to speak is sheer pig-ignorance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 30, 2015, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 30, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
I only un-mute the volume when I see Colm's lips moving.
By the way, this thing Brolly does where he physically reaches his arm across somebody while they're trying to speak is sheer pig-ignorance.

It's a technique you learn on body language course. Does my nut in. Hugely patronising - reads shut to f**k up you're wrong and i want to speak with a correct opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on August 30, 2015, 06:59:23 PM
Spillane did make a very good point at half time, that both teams looked like they'd spent the past two weeks overanalysing each other with video etc, rather than worry about their own games.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 07:24:42 PM
I actually though Dessie Dolan was quite good, accent aside, knows the game as you expect from a former great forward, Easier to listen to than McStay or Carr
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 30, 2015, 09:18:20 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly
Connolly had to have been provoked by someone as he would never do something unprovoked.
Oh wait.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly

Do I have this right, you want TSG to highlight examples of players shouting at officials?

:D :D :D :D



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly

Do I have this right, you want TSG to highlight examples of players shouting at officials?

:D :D :D :D

110 percent, watch the game and watch how keegan pulled Connolly down, OConnor was straight to the lines man mouthing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly

Do I have this right, you want TSG to highlight examples of players shouting at officials?

:D :D :D :D

110 percent, watch the game and watch how keegan pulled Connolly down, OConnor was straight to the lines man mouthing

Yes that is exactly what O'Connor did. He showed the linesman that Connolly was punching Keegan. You seem to think this is wrong somehow?


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
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The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly

Do I have this right, you want TSG to highlight examples of players shouting at officials?

:D :D :D :D

110 percent, watch the game and watch how keegan pulled Connolly down, OConnor was straight to the lines man mouthing

Yes that is exactly what O'Connor did. He showed the linesman that Connolly was punching Keegan. You seem to think this is wrong somehow?

What was Keegan tickling connollys balls ?

Now if they highlight mcmahons attempted butt to OShea surely they will highlight OConnors move on Rory OCarroll that resulted in him being removed from the park
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:38:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
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Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
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Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly

Do I have this right, you want TSG to highlight examples of players shouting at officials?

:D :D :D :D

110 percent, watch the game and watch how keegan pulled Connolly down, OConnor was straight to the lines man mouthing

Yes that is exactly what O'Connor did. He showed the linesman that Connolly was punching Keegan. You seem to think this is wrong somehow?

What was Keegan tickling connollys balls ?

Now if they highlight mcmahons attempted butt to OShea surely they will highlight OConnors move on Rory OCarroll that resulted in him being removed from the park

We have seen the headbutt. It is all over twitter.

I haven't seen what O'Connor did yet. So far it is an Aidan O'Shea 'gouge' and a Cillian O'Connor elbow. You call it a 'move'. What was it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:04:45 PM
Again Connolly put his arms round keegan and both went to ground, maybe if he just swung the shoulder and moved on he wouldn't be missing the replay
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:16:12 PM
see in O`Connor instance again, not even a yellow, nothing more than a tussle of the ball started by the Dublin man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 30, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Black card unearthing the cynicism of the top teams(surprise, surprise).  Thought it was just brought in for Tyrone?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 30, 2015, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:16:12 PM
see in O`Connor instance again, not even a yellow, nothing more than a tussle of the ball started by the Dublin man.

its exactly the same as connolly. retaliation but it wasn't dealt with on the pitch so it could be dealt with during the week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:18:01 PM
well they did start it in all honestly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
Connolly hit with a closed fist deliberately and on purpose to a man on the ground, O`Connor was get pulled round by the dub fullback and got hit by the back of an open hand accidentally
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Whishtup on August 30, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Black card unearthing the cynicism of the top teams(surprise, surprise).  Thought it was just brought in for Tyrone?

Ah sure Tyrone started this shite the rest of the teams are following their lead!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 30, 2015, 10:24:35 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
Connolly hit with a closed fist deliberately and on purpose to a man on the ground, O`Connor was get pulled round by the dub fullback and got hit by the back of an open hand accidentally

you got all that from the 3 second replay we just saw  :) 11 stitches from the back of an open hand.Has he sharp knuckles
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 10:26:27 PM
My reading of it is that both COC and Diarmuid will play next Saturday. Compromise decision.

Philly Mc I am not so sure about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on August 30, 2015, 10:28:03 PM
Have sympathy with Connolly. A man can only get pushed so far. Think O'Connor on O'Carroll is a 50:50. Cooper was lucky not to get red. McMahon did more things wrong in that match than Tiernan McCann did against Monaghan but is unlikely to get as much stick.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 10:33:07 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on August 30, 2015, 10:28:03 PM
Have sympathy with Connolly. A man can only get pushed so far. Think O'Connor on O'Carroll is a 50:50. Cooper was lucky not to get red. McMahon did more things wrong in that match than Tiernan McCann did against Monaghan but is unlikely to get as much stick.
Sympathy me arse!! He's an intercounty footballer and he shouldn't be getting involved in incidents like that!

He would need to grow up sometime these incidents are stopping him from being one of the greats. I would let him away with all his indiscretions before now but he's 27 and been involved in a lot of successful teams he should know at this stage he's under the spotlight and should behave accordingly. Very very naive!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 10:40:01 PM
Connolly was a wild horse. He gave a clip to the face of Parsons when Parsons was on the ground earlier and got away with it. Getting sent off was no surprise, it was coming all day. He was jumping about the place and trying to front up to anyone and everyone. Really thought he'd matured past the stuff he was at today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 30, 2015, 10:52:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
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Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:11:24 PM
The Cooper incident in particular needs highlighting as it was a filthy act that could have caused serious injury to an opponent. Far worse than anything McCann done and as blatant a red card as you are likely to see.


They also need to highlight the fact that Cillian OConnor was fundamental in getting Connolly sent off, by roaring at the linesman constantly

Do I have this right, you want TSG to highlight examples of players shouting at officials?

:D :D :D :D

110 percent, watch the game and watch how keegan pulled Connolly down, OConnor was straight to the lines man mouthing

Yes that is exactly what O'Connor did. He showed the linesman that Connolly was punching Keegan. You seem to think this is wrong somehow?

What was Keegan tickling connollys balls ?

Now if they highlight mcmahons attempted butt to OShea surely they will highlight OConnors move on Rory OCarroll that resulted in him being removed from the park

We have seen the headbutt. It is all over twitter.

I haven't seen what O'Connor did yet. So far it is an Aidan O'Shea 'gouge' and a Cillian O'Connor elbow. You call it a 'move'. What was it?
Lads,
let's not get carried away.  McMahon waved his brow at O'Shea-no further action.  COC swung both arms back when being dragged back and freakishly split yer man-no further action.  Cooper 'rake' was the worst of the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:55:12 PM
McMahon knee come across Boyle as he spun round, 50 50 penalty at best but there was no need for it was there were already 2/3 dubs round Boyle, poor tackling to be honest but it wasn't a trip
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on August 30, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.

Clear penalty.  McMahon stuck the leg out and the player went over it. No question imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 30, 2015, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: Armamike on August 30, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.

Clear penalty.  McMahon stuck the leg out and the player went over it. No question imo.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 30, 2015, 11:11:28 PM
100% a penalty.
McMahon didn't trip him, he just led with his leg and the lad went over his thigh.
He couldn't resist throwing a couple of digs after for good measure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 11:15:35 PM
How did O'Connor get man of the match? He's a good free taker but did barely anything in open play.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 30, 2015, 11:16:40 PM
Quote from: Armamike on August 30, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.

Clear penalty.  McMahon stuck the leg out and the player went over it. No question imo.

dont you love this place. It was 50-50 at best. He lunged forward looking for a penalty. McMahons leg had nothing to do with him going down but its handy for reverse engineering a reason.

Dublins penalty should have also been a black card for a trip - the same offence that got dublin a black. Ref was awful today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 11:17:17 PM
I was delighted to see McQuillan give Mayo the penalty but imo it was never a penalty. Boules only intention was to get to ground and he threw himself forward dramatically in an attempt to try and exaggerate a foul that didn't exist.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:17:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.


Very simple really. Point to the Keane incident a few weeks ago. He got off. Ask why? Ask again. Keep asking why. Ask what the difference is between the two incidents.Ask again.
Personally reckon all "striking " offences now will be turned over until congress next year.

A right mess.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 30, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
quick point about the black card. Very often it makes no difference. McAuley was due to come off soon anyway as he was never going to play the full 70. The card only hurried it up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:19:18 PM
Connolly will definitely get off. Referees report will have it as striking, none of the TV angles showed definite contact, just attempted striking so he'll get off similarly to Lynch in 06.
They should amalgamate striking and attempted striking into the same offense so the ref can put down striking/attempted striking and then the offender has the disprove both.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:17:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.


Very simple really. Point to the Keane incident a few weeks ago. He got off. Ask why? Ask again. Keep asking why. Ask what the difference is between the two incidents.Ask again.
Personally reckon all "striking " offences now will be turned over until congress next year.

A right mess.

Keane should never have got off, agreed. On what basis was his suspension over turned?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Connolly struck with a closed fist on a prone man on the ground, Keane slapped Murphy openly with minor contact, i would say boths incidents are not of the same nature
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:22:50 PM
How many photos will we see this week of the various incidents here trying to prove/disprove penalties, black cards, red cards and CCCC suspensions? I'm guessing 7.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 11:23:47 PM
The sunday game showed a close up from a reverse angle and Connolly def can be seen striking into keegan with a closed fist.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:24:45 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Connolly struck with a closed fist on a prone man on the ground, Keane slapped Murphy openly with minor contact, i would say boths incidents are not of the same nature

Mmmmmm. You could see that from the camera angle/ picture quality.


Mark my words, COC and DC will play next Saturday. Others or in particular another WILL be suspended.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 11:26:03 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 11:23:47 PM
The sunday game showed a close up from a reverse angle and Connolly def can be seen striking into keegan with a closed fist.

Indeed, mc stays prostate twitched wildly when this shot was shown, he made sure he got his point across tonight
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 30, 2015, 11:33:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 11:23:47 PM
The sunday game showed a close up from a reverse angle and Connolly def can be seen striking into keegan with a closed fist.

Need to get a telly like yours - my poor samsung is obviously missing something
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about

Yes but if the ref has striking down in his report and you prove attempted striking you'll get off and vice versa.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: east down gael on August 30, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
Watching as a neutral who doesn't mind who makes the final as both will make for a great match,here's my take.

O'shea lucky not to get a black early on for dragging cluxton down,but it would have taken serious stones by mcquillan to send him off the field given his high profile and the media attention he has received this last week.
O'connor could have possibly received a yellow for catching o'carroll,but if you're holding a man when the ball is at the other end of the field,you can't expect him to just stand there.I genuinely don't believe what he did constituted striking.
Dublin penalty was technically outside the box but I think most refs would have gave it considering the pace Flynn was going at and where he fell.not sure even the mayo boys knew where the foul occurred.
O'sullivan should have got a black for playing the man off the ball,but not for the shirt pulling.
McMahon was lucky to stay on the pitch.looked a headbutt on first viewing to me,and still does.regardless of force.he also gave away the penalty,which was borderline but I'd probably have gave it.what annoyed me was the sly punch while Boyle was on the ground.
Michael darragh wasn't a foul never mind a black card.
Basticks was borderline,can see why he gave it,but how sure can he be it was deliberate?
Connolly struck,this talk of whether he connected or not is ridiculous.straight red.that said,I think he will play Saturday.
The cooper incident near the start of the game was deliberate,no doubt in my mind and he's very lucky he got a yellow for it and won't get sanctioned.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: regal on August 30, 2015, 11:47:00 PM
Dublin were desperately ill disciplined today. The antics of cooper and McMahon were disgraceful. I presumed Davy Byrne was the most sickening dub in that panel, but I am reviewing that at the moment!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 11:48:18 PM
I thought bastick was a black during the game but on 2nd viewing he actually cant see Moran or know where his legs are going, the other Black card was not one either but some other tackles during the game were.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nihilist on August 30, 2015, 11:49:49 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Yep - they sure were
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 30, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: regal on August 30, 2015, 11:47:00 PM
Dublin were desperately ill disciplined today. The antics of cooper and McMahon were disgraceful. I presumed Davy Byrne was the most sickening dub in that panel, but I am reviewing that at the moment!

On a serious note, is he back on the panel ?.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:53:37 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 30, 2015, 11:49:49 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Yep - they sure were

Don't like it myself. It was a response to the Mayo fans booing the keepball being played by Dublin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about

Yes but if the ref has striking down in his report and you prove attempted striking you'll get off and vice versa.
That cant possibly be right. Is there a precedence for this or are the home learned law degrees coming to the fore again? If its true then surely the cccc(ccccc....) are many times worse than i imagined
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Hhahahaha they were doing that actually and I'm sure the Mayo fans can tell you it wasn't so nice when the Dubs were 7 points up and rubbing it in to the Mayo supporters.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about

Yes but if the ref has striking down in his report and you prove attempted striking you'll get off and vice versa.
That cant possibly be right. Is there a precedence for this or are the home learned law degrees coming to the fore again? If its true then surely the cccc(ccccc....) are many times worse than i imagined

I don't know the answer to this but under what technicality was Kevin Keane's red card for a clear punch rescinded? Is there a precedent there?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 11:56:35 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 30, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
Quote from: regal on August 30, 2015, 11:47:00 PM
Dublin were desperately ill disciplined today. The antics of cooper and McMahon were disgraceful. I presumed Davy Byrne was the most sickening dub in that panel, but I am reviewing that at the moment!

On a serious note, is he back on the panel ?.

He was warming up before the Fermanagh game, ..................... Regal I cannot wait for your report on which Dublin player sickens you the most  ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:57:50 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about

Yes but if the ref has striking down in his report and you prove attempted striking you'll get off and vice versa.
That cant possibly be right. Is there a precedence for this or are the home learned law degrees coming to the fore again? If its true then surely the cccc(ccccc....) are many times worse than i imagined

I don't know the answer to this but under what technicality was Kevin Keane's red card for a clear punch rescinded? Is there a precedent there?

Don't know the answer. Would suspect the Dublin Co Board will be curious to clarify the reasons though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on August 30, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Hhahahaha they were doing that actually and I'm sure the Mayo fans can tell you it wasn't so nice when the Dubs were 7 points up and rubbing it in to the Mayo supporters.

Bollocks...it was a sarcastic ole. Dublin were being unadventurous and the Hill responded sarcastically.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: east down gael on August 31, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
They'd know well from getting Connollys red against donegal in semi final of 2011 struck out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Teo Lurley on August 31, 2015, 12:04:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 30, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Hhahahaha they were doing that actually and I'm sure the Mayo fans can tell you it wasn't so nice when the Dubs were 7 points up and rubbing it in to the Mayo supporters.

Bollocks...it was a sarcastic ole. Dublin were being unadventurous and the Hill responded sarcastically.

Come on, the Dubs on the Hill can't even spell sarcastic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 31, 2015, 01:08:08 AM
Some crazy opinions about what happened out there today.

There is a massive problem with Dublin playing in CP. With the possible exception of Kerry, they see themselves as the alpha male or biggest wolf on their own lot and crank it up. That was what I had in mind last week when I was talking about the CP advantage and refereeing.

By refereeing I mean all the officials. McQuillan got no heads-up from his Hill 16 officials in first half when McLoughlin, O Shea and O Connor were being held, dragged and wrestled to the ground. Cooper and O Carroll in particular fouled with impunity and got away with it - knowing they would. I d have checked out the umpires myself if I were Dublin management. Will an umpire shop a Dublin defender in front of the hill?

Now some comedians want COC to be suspended for swinging around to umpire after being systematically fouled from throw- in. You couldn t make this shit up. The old veil of 'written in the stars and all that crap' has certainly shifted.

Even before his ball/leg breaker, Cooper should have been on a yellow. Ditto O Carroll before he needed stitches. But the umpires hadn t the balls to do their job because they were intimidated by the Hill - the soft basrards. McQuillan needs to look at his umpires. He chooses them. On this occasion they landed him in the lurch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on August 31, 2015, 01:12:41 AM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 30, 2015, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about

Yes but if the ref has striking down in his report and you prove attempted striking you'll get off and vice versa.
That cant possibly be right. Is there a precedence for this or are the home learned law degrees coming to the fore again? If its true then surely the cccc(ccccc....) are many times worse than i imagined

Yes, in 06 Anthony Lynch was sent off for striking yet in the hearing the Cork county board showed one video angle that showed he didn't make contact (Donaghy and JAck O C have since said otherwise), thus Lynch was only attempting to strike so refs report was wrong so charges were thrown out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 31, 2015, 01:45:26 AM
It's understandable O'Connor lashing out when he was held like he was but it is the force with which he did it that will probably result in a ban if the incidents in today's game are followed up on.

I would expect O'Connor, McMahon, Cooper and Connolly to all be banned for the replay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 31, 2015, 05:18:57 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

:o

Wow
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 31, 2015, 05:42:10 AM
Fair play to Mayo for the comeback, but Dublin definitely left that one behind them. 

The extra game will help the eventual winner; Kerry will be left almost a month without a game, can't be good for them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on August 31, 2015, 06:00:14 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??
In the basket with others as a classless comment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 31, 2015, 07:48:22 AM
The demand for a TMO seems to be gaining traction ?.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 31, 2015, 08:36:07 AM
Not sure how useful a TMO would be when most of us still can't agree on decisions with the benefit of multiple replays.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 31, 2015, 08:40:20 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 31, 2015, 08:36:07 AM
Not sure how useful a TMO would be when most of us still can't agree on decisions with the benefit of multiple replays.

Would agree with that.

The "penalty" decisions given and bit given as past 2 games wouldn't be clear cut, leaving aside the black cards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 31, 2015, 08:51:13 AM
The penalties this last 2 weeks have had similar themes though. Kerry and Dublin have let boys run into the area unchallenged then panicked and got as many bodies in to stop them as possible but because they've been going at speed and had momentum they've ended up grounded. I don't think the referee has had any choice on either occassion as they certainly weren't dives. If Kerry or Dublin stop players, by fair or foul means, further out it wouldn't happen but they both seem suceptible when ran at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 31, 2015, 08:51:51 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 31, 2015, 06:00:14 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??
In the basket with others as a classless comment.
I agree.
There is no proof these guys are soccer fans.......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 09:19:03 AM
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:26:54 PM
Striking and attempted striking carry exactly the same punishment, category 2 infraction, rule 5.1...so many 'experts' on here who havent the first clue what theyre talking about

Yes, but they are two different fouls as such. If you are reported for 'striking' and can prove it was only 'attempted striking' then you get off on a technicality. As for the latter part of your statement, find a mirror :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
By the way, Tyrone had an unlikely ally on Twitter last night. Declan O'Sullivan was saying the Sunday Game are applying double standards, as they were very hard on Tyrone, and were going softly softly on Dublin. Now I didn't see the Sunday Game at all, so I can't comment on his accuracy, but I thought it was interesting that he'd say that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GJL on August 31, 2015, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
By the way, Tyrone had an unlikely ally on Twitter last night. Declan O'Sullivan was saying the Sunday Game are applying double standards, as they were very hard on Tyrone, and were going softly softly on Dublin. Now I didn't see the Sunday Game at all, so I can't comment on his accuracy, but I thought it was interesting that he'd say that.

If Tyrone carried on like Dublin did yesterday there would be calls to have them expelled from the GAA. The double standards are disgusting but not surprising..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 31, 2015, 10:42:16 AM
Howl on now, Kevin McStay specifically pointed out that very  issue last night. If he'd have been on the night of McCann-gate we might have had a modicum of sense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 31, 2015, 11:40:17 AM
Quote from: GJL on August 31, 2015, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
By the way, Tyrone had an unlikely ally on Twitter last night. Declan O'Sullivan was saying the Sunday Game are applying double standards, as they were very hard on Tyrone, and were going softly softly on Dublin. Now I didn't see the Sunday Game at all, so I can't comment on his accuracy, but I thought it was interesting that he'd say that.

If Tyrone carried on like Dublin did yesterday there would be calls to have them expelled from the GAA. The double standards are disgusting but not surprising..

Keep patient young man. That will follow later in the week. The Kerry mafia in the papers are just cranking up.
With the rugby world cup in danger of being upstaged the Indo will no doubt put the boot in as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on August 31, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Did the SG mention the  pick of the ground of the  idublin corner back in the small square after he saved Cluxton's bacon?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on August 31, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
No mention plus no metion of point that went wide that Dublin got or another one after two hops. Joe McQuilan is one of the worst referees in Cavan. How he's an intercounty ref is beyond belief.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 11:57:03 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 31, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
No mention plus no metion of point that went wide that Dublin got or another one after two hops. Joe McQuilan is one of the worst referees in Cavan. How he's an intercounty ref is beyond belief.

I don't think anyone really cares about an odd technical foul. It happens all the time. It's only ever a talking point if the ball is over carried and results in a goal or something. Other than that you'd be all day pointing them out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 31, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 31, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
No mention plus no metion of point that went wide that Dublin got or another one after two hops. Joe McQuilan is one of the worst referees in Cavan. How he's an intercounty ref is beyond belief.

Ok. I'm being at 100$ straight here. I didn't think small picked the ball up at the time an it was shown twice last night and i still don't think he did.

the double hop was during a dublin advantage(refs arms clearly raised). 14 yard free and very likely point anyway.

Brogan point - no conclusive evidence but goalie didn't make any fuss an thats usually a good indicator
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 31, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
No mention plus no metion of point that went wide that Dublin got or another one after two hops. Joe McQuilan is one of the worst referees in Cavan. How he's an intercounty ref is beyond belief.

I don't think the ball was picked off the ground - anyone have any link?

Brogan's point wasn't wide (i've watched it several times) The goalkeeper is looking straight up at it and he doesn't complain at all

The two hops one, the ref was playing advantage so he should have pulled it back from a free on the 14 yr line (which would have been scored anyway).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
Great minds straightred!  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 31, 2015, 12:06:06 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:02:53 PM
Great minds straightred!  :D

uncanny  :)

There's a gif of this "non-point" on balls.ie and if you slow it down frame by frame you'll see that it is a point. Just inside the post from a (very) vertical position.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:06:53 PM
That's what I was looking at red.

I hope this link works for a freeze frame of it inside the post.

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=171
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Here are two more freeze frames.

I think it's fair to say that this is definitely a point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 31, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Here are two more freeze frames.

I think it's fair to say that this is definitely a point.

Yes - that nails it. However balls.ie still have the headline "GIFs: The Decision To Award Dublin This Point Is Looking Very Dodgy Now". Poor on their part.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 31, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 31, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Here are two more freeze frames.

I think it's fair to say that this is definitely a point.

Yes - that nails it. However balls.ie still have the headline "GIFs: The Decision To Award Dublin This Point Is Looking Very Dodgy Now". Poor on their part.

It was close either way. I still don't understand why Hawkeye wasn't used in this instance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 31, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 07:24:42 PM
I actually though Dessie Dolan was quite good, accent aside, knows the game as you expect from a former great forward, Easier to listen to than McStay or Carr
I don't remember Dessie  adding anything of note to Darragh's commentary, who is the best commentator on Irish tv, after gorgeous George of course.
Though Dessie did remark that Cluxton had missed everything so far, just as Cluxton was poising himself to send Dublin into the final with that scorable easy late free.
I suppose Dessie is out on his own and rules supreme in these matters, he has the experience of the effects of the  pressure of the easy late free to win at Croke Park, stamped in his dna  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 31, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 31, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Here are two more freeze frames.

I think it's fair to say that this is definitely a point.

Yes - that nails it. However balls.ie still have the headline "GIFs: The Decision To Award Dublin This Point Is Looking Very Dodgy Now". Poor on their part.

It was close either way. I still don't understand why Hawkeye wasn't used in this instance.

Presumably because the umpire was 100% sure that it went over and there wasn't one complaint from the mayo players most importantly the goalkeeper who was looking straight up at it as it went over his head and over the bar.


Also, I seem to remember that when hawkeye came in there was something that the hawkeye operator would bring an incorrect decision to the attention of the referee if it occurred even if the ref or the umpire didn't call for hawkeye. Did I dream that or does anyone now if it correct?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 31, 2015, 12:42:42 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Here are two more freeze frames.

I think it's fair to say that this is definitely a point.
Yep, watch the keeper and he stays under the line of the ball all the time. He knew where the post was and was looking up the post as it dropped over.
Had it gone wide, he would surely have reacted very differently.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 31, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 31, 2015, 12:31:19 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 07:24:42 PM
I actually though Dessie Dolan was quite good, accent aside, knows the game as you expect from a former great forward, Easier to listen to than McStay or Carr
I don't remember Dessie  adding anything of note to Darragh's commentary, who is the best commentator on Irish tv, after gorgeous George of course.
Though Dessie did remark that Cluxton had missed everything so far, just as Cluxton was poising himself to send Dublin into the final with that scorable easy late free.
I suppose Dessie is out on his own and rules supreme in these matters, he has the experience of the effects of the  pressure of the easy late free to win at Croke Park, stamped in his dna  :)

Thought Dolan was poor myself. Failed to pull up Cooper for a blatant red card, incorrectly praised Kilkenny in setting up a score (it was Flynn) and has an annoying habit of simply referring to players by their first name. Dolan seems like a decent fellow but he will avoid saying anything controversial and will therefore will not upset too many people.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on August 31, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
At  least he wasn't Martin Carney.  A co-commentator does not have to add to the commentator says.  Think Micael Deighnan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
McStay is the best com-commentator in football or hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
McStay is the best com-commentator in football or hurling.

I'm not sure Kevin's hurling knowledge would be the best to be honest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
McStay is the best com-commentator in football or hurling.

I'm not sure Kevin's hurling knowledge would be the best to be honest.

K-Mac can do anything he sets his mind to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM

Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Jees - after looking at that several times there is no way it looks like a point.
The ball arches up in the air lands and comes down outside the post and doesn't hit any part of the back net.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 31, 2015, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 31, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 31, 2015, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Here are two more freeze frames.

I think it's fair to say that this is definitely a point.

Yes - that nails it. However balls.ie still have the headline "GIFs: The Decision To Award Dublin This Point Is Looking Very Dodgy Now". Poor on their part.

It was close either way. I still don't understand why Hawkeye wasn't used in this instance.

Presumably because the umpire was 100% sure that it went over and there wasn't one complaint from the mayo players most importantly the goalkeeper who was looking straight up at it as it went over his head and over the bar.


Also, I seem to remember that when hawkeye came in there was something that the hawkeye operator would bring an incorrect decision to the attention of the referee if it occurred even if the ref or the umpire didn't call for hawkeye. Did I dream that or does anyone now if it correct?

Correct. If that point was actually a wide (after the white flag being raised) the hawk eye official would have radioed the ref telling him he needed to go to hawk eye for the last score attempt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: missedchance on August 31, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
Quick question: how man steps can a player take before playing the ball? 

I think I counted 10 before Kilkenny punched his point in the first half yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossie11 on August 31, 2015, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM

Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=169

http://gfycat.com/PessimisticSnarlingKatydid#?frameNum=170

Jees - after looking at that several times there is no way it looks like a point.
The ball arches up in the air lands and comes down outside the post and doesn't hit any part of the back net.
That's a clear point in my view. The ball disappears behind the post.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 31, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
There was a Croke Park official on the radio earlier who confirmed that hawk eye would have awarded a point had it been required for the Brogan shot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: missedchance on August 31, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
Quick question: how man steps can a player take before playing the ball? 

I think I counted 10 before Kilkenny punched his point in the first half yesterday.

4 or the time needed to take 4 steps. If a player is being impeded a ref might allow a little longer or if they are not in full control of the ball while travelling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 31, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 31, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
There was a Croke Park official on the radio earlier who confirmed that hawk eye would have awarded a point had it been required for the Brogan shot.

I had a great view of it and thought at the time it was a point. No complaints from anyone around me either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: missedchance on August 31, 2015, 10:01:11 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: missedchance on August 31, 2015, 09:21:39 PM
Quick question: how man steps can a player take before playing the ball? 

I think I counted 10 before Kilkenny punched his point in the first half yesterday.

4 or the time needed to take 4 steps. If a player is being impeded a ref might allow a little longer or if they are not in full control of the ball while travelling.

So 10 is not out of the ordinary?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 10:05:27 PM
Quote from: missedchance on August 31, 2015, 10:01:11 PM

So 10 is not out of the ordinary?

It probably is but it can happen. I'd have to see it again. When I first saw it I didn't notice a foul.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
McStay is the best com-commentator in football or hurling.

I'm not sure Kevin's hurling knowledge would be the best to be honest.

K-Mac can do anything he sets his mind to.

He stroked his wedding ring like gollum last night as his prostate twitched with delight at setting his anti dub agenda loose

Whelan has no balls and is obviously enjoying his new payday
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 31, 2015, 10:28:24 PM
You're obsessed with his twitching prostate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on August 31, 2015, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
McStay is the best com-commentator in football or hurling.

I'm not sure Kevin's hurling knowledge would be the best to be honest.

K-Mac can do anything he sets his mind to.

He stroked his wedding ring like gollum last night as his prostate twitched with delight at setting his anti dub agenda loose

Whelan has no balls and is obviously enjoying his new payday

Think you're being a bit harsh, would be very easy for Whelan to get a reputation of being blinkered towards Dubs if he tries fight their corner too much.  He's still relatively early in the job and just trying to set an appearance of being as objective as possible, unlike Mc Stay who was very obvious in his bias last night. There was the Philly Mc Mahon headbutt instance where he used the attempt to headbutt as a straight red yet was ignoring the fact that O' Shea attempted to strike Mc Mahon in another incident and that's a red too  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 11:09:36 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 31, 2015, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
McStay is the best com-commentator in football or hurling.

I'm not sure Kevin's hurling knowledge would be the best to be honest.

K-Mac can do anything he sets his mind to.

He stroked his wedding ring like gollum last night as his prostate twitched with delight at setting his anti dub agenda loose

Whelan has no balls and is obviously enjoying his new payday

Think you're being a bit harsh, would be very easy for Whelan to get a reputation of being blinkered towards Dubs if he tries fight their corner too much.  He's still relatively early in the job and just trying to set an appearance of being as objective as possible, unlike Mc Stay who was very obvious in his bias last night. There was the Philly Mc Mahon headbutt instance where he used the attempt to headbutt as a straight red yet was ignoring the fact that O' Shea attempted to strike Mc Mahon in another incident and that's a red too  ;D

Whelan had an opportunity to express an opinion on the Connolly incident and McMahon etc, but instead decided to sit there like Mr Potatoe head and let brigadier mc stay set out his Mayo top trumps
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on August 31, 2015, 11:49:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

Did a good impression of one last night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyroneman on September 01, 2015, 06:57:21 AM
The simple answer is for RTE to try and get the sky panel across to The Sunday game, lock stock...

The only one worth keeping would be ML.

Analysis v gossip.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 01, 2015, 07:58:42 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 01, 2015, 06:57:21 AM
The simple answer is for RTE to try and get the sky panel across to The Sunday game, lock stock...

The only one worth keeping would be ML.

Analysis v gossip.

Tyrone people have a bias against the sunday game. Sunday evenings show illustrates that there is no agenda against tyrone from the sunday game. They highlighted a number of incidents and called for retrospective action. I think Ciaran Whelan is excellent and is improving all the time in the role.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: lenny on September 01, 2015, 07:58:42 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 01, 2015, 06:57:21 AM
The simple answer is for RTE to try and get the sky panel across to The Sunday game, lock stock...

The only one worth keeping would be ML.

Analysis v gossip.

Tyrone people have a bias against the sunday game. Sunday evenings show illustrates that there is no agenda against tyrone from the sunday game. They highlighted a number of incidents and called for retrospective action. I think Ciaran Whelan is excellent and is improving all the time in the role.

::) ::)

They didn't call for any apologies for far bigger indiscretions than in the Tyrone-Monaghan, namely Coopers. They didn't drag up Dublin's past incidents of biting and brawls which have all taken place under Gavin's tenure in the past three years. They talk about these things following Dublin around like a bad smell.

They talked about the incidents and in many ways excused them, "Johhny Cooper is not that type of player", this is the guy who collapsed, deliberately, into a prone man on the ground with his knees. Whelan was the guy who asked Tiernan McCann to apologise, a clear case of double standards that he didn't think Philly McMahon had any case to answer yesterday. They talked about the main incidents yesterday, their analysis in the Tyrone Monaghan game was picking out minor incidents to have a go at Cavanagh, one where he was kicked in the back.

Funnily enough, they mentioned nothing about Cillian O'Connor being the first player over in front of the match officials every time jump and gesticulating at them over what action they should be taking. Just imagine it was Sean Cavanagh who did that, if you look hard enough at any of the big teams in the big game then you'll find as much, if not more dirt on them than you would Tyrone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 01, 2015, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: lenny on September 01, 2015, 07:58:42 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 01, 2015, 06:57:21 AM
The simple answer is for RTE to try and get the sky panel across to The Sunday game, lock stock...

The only one worth keeping would be ML.

Analysis v gossip.

Tyrone people have a bias against the sunday game. Sunday evenings show illustrates that there is no agenda against tyrone from the sunday game. They highlighted a number of incidents and called for retrospective action. I think Ciaran Whelan is excellent and is improving all the time in the role.

::) ::)

They didn't call for any apologies for far bigger indiscretions than in the Tyrone-Monaghan, namely Coopers. They didn't drag up Dublin's past incidents of biting and brawls which have all taken place under Gavin's tenure in the past three years. They talk about these things following Dublin around like a bad smell.

They talked about the incidents and in many ways excused them, "Johhny Cooper is not that type of player", this is the guy who collapsed, deliberately, into a prone man on the ground with his knees. Whelan was the guy who asked Tiernan McCann to apologise, a clear case of double standards that he didn't think Philly McMahon had any case to answer yesterday. They talked about the main incidents yesterday, their analysis in the Tyrone Monaghan game was picking out minor incidents to have a go at Cavanagh, one where he was kicked in the back.

Funnily enough, they mentioned nothing about Cillian O'Connor being the first player over in front of the match officials every time jump and gesticulating at them over what action they should be taking. Just imagine it was Sean Cavanagh who did that, if you look hard enough at any of the big teams in the big game then you'll find as much, if not more dirt on them than you would Tyrone.

Some of these teams are now starting to copy some of the tyrone tactics and when it gets to the stage that all teams do it the game will be unwatchable and impossible to referee.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: lenny on September 01, 2015, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: lenny on September 01, 2015, 07:58:42 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 01, 2015, 06:57:21 AM
The simple answer is for RTE to try and get the sky panel across to The Sunday game, lock stock...

The only one worth keeping would be ML.

Analysis v gossip.

Tyrone people have a bias against the sunday game. Sunday evenings show illustrates that there is no agenda against tyrone from the sunday game. They highlighted a number of incidents and called for retrospective action. I think Ciaran Whelan is excellent and is improving all the time in the role.

::) ::)

They didn't call for any apologies for far bigger indiscretions than in the Tyrone-Monaghan, namely Coopers. They didn't drag up Dublin's past incidents of biting and brawls which have all taken place under Gavin's tenure in the past three years. They talk about these things following Dublin around like a bad smell.

They talked about the incidents and in many ways excused them, "Johhny Cooper is not that type of player", this is the guy who collapsed, deliberately, into a prone man on the ground with his knees. Whelan was the guy who asked Tiernan McCann to apologise, a clear case of double standards that he didn't think Philly McMahon had any case to answer yesterday. They talked about the main incidents yesterday, their analysis in the Tyrone Monaghan game was picking out minor incidents to have a go at Cavanagh, one where he was kicked in the back.

Funnily enough, they mentioned nothing about Cillian O'Connor being the first player over in front of the match officials every time jump and gesticulating at them over what action they should be taking. Just imagine it was Sean Cavanagh who did that, if you look hard enough at any of the big teams in the big game then you'll find as much, if not more dirt on them than you would Tyrone.

Some of these teams are now starting to copy some of the tyrone tactics and when it gets to the stage that all teams do it the game will be unwatchable and impossible to referee.

None of this is new.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

That means he is even more anti-Dub or it doesn't mean anything. Lots of Dub haters play in Dublin.

McStay, along with McGee are the most anti-Dublin humans on the planet, McStay should resign from the Sunday game from his agenda on Sunday, or should be sacked, agenda drive, anti Dublin bias. McGee is worse, the rest of them are alright though.

Just remember the Sunday game is a t.v show, its not the GAA or CRC etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

That means he is even more anti-Dub or it doesn't mean anything. Lots of Dub haters play in Dublin.

McStay, along with McGee are the most anti-Dublin humans on the planet, McStay should resign from the Sunday game from his agenda on Sunday, or should be sacked, agenda drive, anti Dublin bias. McGee is worse, the rest of them are alright though.

Just remember the Sunday game is a t.v show, its not the GAA or CRC etc.

f**king hell, you got off nearly scot-free on Sunday night. Given the number of unsavoury incidents Dublin have been involved in now it was crying out for the sort of bashing Tyrone got but nothing about bad smells or calling for public apologies. Whelan's complete double standards in looking for McCann to apologise and dismissing McMahon's out of hand, his mealy mouthed excuse for Cooper who committed the biggest act of thuggery this season and in the season before as "not in his nature" when 2 games ago he produced a similar nasty act where he collapsed with his knees onto a prone John Heslin.

McMahon's two punches to Boyle's head didn't even get a mention.

It would seem both teams were at it and I agree that O'Connor should be getting a ban as while it was understandable his arms would flail when impeded and fouled, he did in with such force that he was intending to cause damage. But neither side have had their reputation bashed or torn to shreds, their past transgressions have been ignored in the context of this. What this proved was the Sunday Game have an obvious agenda in place and the double standards from Whelan was scandalous if not expected.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

That means he is even more anti-Dub or it doesn't mean anything. Lots of Dub haters play in Dublin.

McStay, along with McGee are the most anti-Dublin humans on the planet, McStay should resign from the Sunday game from his agenda on Sunday, or should be sacked, agenda drive, anti Dublin bias. McGee is worse, the rest of them are alright though.

Just remember the Sunday game is a t.v show, its not the GAA or CRC etc.

f**king hell, you got off nearly scot-free on Sunday night. Given the number of unsavoury incidents Dublin have been involved in now it was crying out for the sort of bashing Tyrone got but nothing about bad smells or calling for public apologies. Whelan's complete double standards in looking for McCann to apologise and dismissing McMahon's out of hand, his mealy mouthed excuse for Cooper who committed the biggest act of thuggery this season and in the season before as "not in his nature" when 2 games ago he produced a similar nasty act where he collapsed with his knees onto a prone John Heslin.

McMahon's two punches to Boyle's head didn't even get a mention.

It would seem both teams were at it and I agree that O'Connor should be getting a ban as while it was understandable his arms would flail when impeded and fouled, he did in with such force that he was intending to cause damage. But neither side have had their reputation bashed or torn to shreds, their past transgressions have been ignored in the context of this. What this proved was the Sunday Game have an obvious agenda in place and the double standards from Whelan was scandalous if not expected.

I agree about Whelo, he was poor Sunday night and shouldn't had let the most bias human McStay slander one of the great defenders on the modern era. I hear he has been given an ultimatum, resign or make a public apology, only time will tell what he will do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on September 01, 2015, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

That means he is even more anti-Dub or it doesn't mean anything. Lots of Dub haters play in Dublin.

McStay, along with McGee are the most anti-Dublin humans on the planet, McStay should resign from the Sunday game from his agenda on Sunday, or should be sacked, agenda drive, anti Dublin bias. McGee is worse, the rest of them are alright though.

Just remember the Sunday game is a t.v show, its not the GAA or CRC etc.

f**king hell, you got off nearly scot-free on Sunday night. Given the number of unsavoury incidents Dublin have been involved in now it was crying out for the sort of bashing Tyrone got but nothing about bad smells or calling for public apologies. Whelan's complete double standards in looking for McCann to apologise and dismissing McMahon's out of hand, his mealy mouthed excuse for Cooper who committed the biggest act of thuggery this season and in the season before as "not in his nature" when 2 games ago he produced a similar nasty act where he collapsed with his knees onto a prone John Heslin.

McMahon's two punches to Boyle's head didn't even get a mention.

It would seem both teams were at it and I agree that O'Connor should be getting a ban as while it was understandable his arms would flail when impeded and fouled, he did in with such force that he was intending to cause damage. But neither side have had their reputation bashed or torn to shreds, their past transgressions have been ignored in the context of this. What this proved was the Sunday Game have an obvious agenda in place and the double standards from Whelan was scandalous if not expected.

I agree about Whelo, he was poor Sunday night and shouldn't had let the most bias human McStay slander one of the great defenders on the modern era. I hear he has been given an ultimatum, resign or make a public apology, only time will tell what he will do.

Who - Whelan or Mc stay?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: straightred on September 01, 2015, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

That means he is even more anti-Dub or it doesn't mean anything. Lots of Dub haters play in Dublin.

McStay, along with McGee are the most anti-Dublin humans on the planet, McStay should resign from the Sunday game from his agenda on Sunday, or should be sacked, agenda drive, anti Dublin bias. McGee is worse, the rest of them are alright though.

Just remember the Sunday game is a t.v show, its not the GAA or CRC etc.

f**king hell, you got off nearly scot-free on Sunday night. Given the number of unsavoury incidents Dublin have been involved in now it was crying out for the sort of bashing Tyrone got but nothing about bad smells or calling for public apologies. Whelan's complete double standards in looking for McCann to apologise and dismissing McMahon's out of hand, his mealy mouthed excuse for Cooper who committed the biggest act of thuggery this season and in the season before as "not in his nature" when 2 games ago he produced a similar nasty act where he collapsed with his knees onto a prone John Heslin.

McMahon's two punches to Boyle's head didn't even get a mention.

It would seem both teams were at it and I agree that O'Connor should be getting a ban as while it was understandable his arms would flail when impeded and fouled, he did in with such force that he was intending to cause damage. But neither side have had their reputation bashed or torn to shreds, their past transgressions have been ignored in the context of this. What this proved was the Sunday Game have an obvious agenda in place and the double standards from Whelan was scandalous if not expected.

I agree about Whelo, he was poor Sunday night and shouldn't had let the most bias human McStay slander one of the great defenders on the modern era. I hear he has been given an ultimatum, resign or make a public apology, only time will tell what he will do.

Who - Whelan or Mc stay?

McStay, but im joking of course, he has been like that for years in studio and co commentary, one match sticks out v Kildare a few years back when Dublin got a late free to win it, he let out huge moan groaning noise saying you cant give frees with seconds to go, blatant free, Dubs won, he was sick.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mikasas on September 01, 2015, 01:27:05 PM
Any of you guys got a link for catching up on the Sunday game? Missed it Sunday night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2015, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: straightred on September 01, 2015, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 11:34:25 PM
McStay played for Ballymun Kickhams ffs lads, he hardly has an anti-Dublin agenda.

That means he is even more anti-Dub or it doesn't mean anything. Lots of Dub haters play in Dublin.

McStay, along with McGee are the most anti-Dublin humans on the planet, McStay should resign from the Sunday game from his agenda on Sunday, or should be sacked, agenda drive, anti Dublin bias. McGee is worse, the rest of them are alright though.

Just remember the Sunday game is a t.v show, its not the GAA or CRC etc.

f**king hell, you got off nearly scot-free on Sunday night. Given the number of unsavoury incidents Dublin have been involved in now it was crying out for the sort of bashing Tyrone got but nothing about bad smells or calling for public apologies. Whelan's complete double standards in looking for McCann to apologise and dismissing McMahon's out of hand, his mealy mouthed excuse for Cooper who committed the biggest act of thuggery this season and in the season before as "not in his nature" when 2 games ago he produced a similar nasty act where he collapsed with his knees onto a prone John Heslin.

McMahon's two punches to Boyle's head didn't even get a mention.

It would seem both teams were at it and I agree that O'Connor should be getting a ban as while it was understandable his arms would flail when impeded and fouled, he did in with such force that he was intending to cause damage. But neither side have had their reputation bashed or torn to shreds, their past transgressions have been ignored in the context of this. What this proved was the Sunday Game have an obvious agenda in place and the double standards from Whelan was scandalous if not expected.

I agree about Whelo, he was poor Sunday night and shouldn't had let the most bias human McStay slander one of the great defenders on the modern era. I hear he has been given an ultimatum, resign or make a public apology, only time will tell what he will do.

Who - Whelan or Mc stay?

McStay, but im joking of course, he has been like that for years in studio and co commentary, one match sticks out v Kildare a few years back when Dublin got a late free to win it, he let out huge moan groaning noise saying you cant give frees with seconds to go, blatant free, Dubs won, he was sick.

Nice revisionism, the party will be happy with you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 01, 2015, 02:31:00 PM
Wasn't that a Cormac Reilly "special" if memory serves me right made from 100 yards away ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 01, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/voices-on-the-sunday-game-are-not-the-letter-of-the-gaa-law-693561.html


Bit of balance here and no bias.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on September 01, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I've been beating that drum for years - When your county is playing in the match none of the pundits should have a connection with them. There are plenty of people around who can give an opinion and analyse the games without feeling obliged to "back" their county in the event of controversy.

Having said that you probably couldn't get anyone to give an unbiased verdict on Dublin or Tyrone ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on September 01, 2015, 05:21:40 PM
Quote from: orangeman on September 01, 2015, 04:53:59 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/voices-on-the-sunday-game-are-not-the-letter-of-the-gaa-law-693561.html


Bit of balance here and no bias.

I agree with most of that.

The question isn't 'why were TSG not as hard on Dublin and mayo as they were on Tyrone'.
I thought they were appropriatly hard on them.

The question should be 'why were they so out of control when it came to Tyrone'.

Other than Brolly I thought the coverage at the weekend was good.
I think Brolly let the mask slip when he said 'if this was Tyrone and Monaghan we'd be calling it shite'.
Why those two Counties? Would he be calling it shite if it was Dublin and Fermanagh or Kerry and Kildare?
There was no reason for him to mention those two Counties in particular unless he felt guilty, felt he
needed to explain himself or for some other reason. Maybe the names came up in the RTE studio earlier that
day and were fresh in his mind.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 01, 2015, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I've been beating that drum for years - When your county is playing in the match none of the pundits should have a connection with them. There are plenty of people around who can give an opinion and analyse the games without feeling obliged to "back" their county in the event of controversy.

Having said that you probably couldn't get anyone to give an unbiased verdict on Dublin or Tyrone ;) ;) ;)

You can't get Brolly to comment without bias on anyone. He either loves you or hates you and beats whatever drum he sees fit rather than analysing objectively. The rest aren't so bad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on September 01, 2015, 05:33:47 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 01, 2015, 05:30:09 PM

You can't get Brolly to comment without bias on anyone. He either loves you or hates you and beats whatever drum he sees fit rather than analysing objectively. The rest aren't so bad.

Brolly only beats his own
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weejim on September 01, 2015, 05:50:18 PM
The question isn't 'why were TSG not as hard on Dublin and mayo as they were on Tyrone'.
the question is why were TCG not as hard on monaghan as they were on tyrone. they only highlighted two monaghan indiscretions as examples of tyrones cynical play/diving/time wasting.  obvious bias surely
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 06:20:13 PM
Quote from: weejim on September 01, 2015, 05:50:18 PM
The question isn't 'why were TSG not as hard on Dublin and mayo as they were on Tyrone'.
the question is why were TCG not as hard on monaghan as they were on tyrone. they only highlighted two monaghan indiscretions as examples of tyrones cynical play/diving/time wasting.  obvious bias surely

There's an element of truth to that but what was a bigger issue is how history is only relevant to Tyrone. Dublin have number of serious transgressions and incidents to them in recent years which were not dragged into the conversation as they were with Tyrone weeks ago and what the antics that Dublin players were involved in on Sunday were of a much darker nature than Tyrone against Monaghan.

Proof if it was needed about the media's clear agenda against Tyrone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:26:04 PM
Think most of Tyrone run ins were all this year, woudlnt want us to back track over previous years either would we.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:26:04 PM
Think most of Tyrone run ins were all this year, woudlnt want us to back track over previous years either would we.

Backtrack away, there would be as much dirt on most of the other big teams in that time period as there is with Tyrone. There's been a lot made about Tyrone fans engaging in whataboutery in response to the depiction of Tyrone by RTE and the Southern media but that's normal as Tyrone have been singled out and vilified for actions that most of the top teams have indulged in during that period.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weejim on September 02, 2015, 12:23:45 AM
its quite obvious the reason why joe ,pat and colm haven't a clue how to analyse modern football, is  because it has evolved so much under the guidance of modern managers like mickey harte and jimmy mcguinness, that they haven't a clue whats going on within team structures , ie different set-ups when teams HAVE and HAVE NOT possession of the ball, how they defend, turnover possession,  transition, counter-attack and score.  there are lots of different strategies employed by the top managers but these three stoogies  haven't a clue what they are., This is evidenced by the far superior analyzis on sky tv ,. The three stoogies try to create controversy/sensationalism to cover up this fact that if you don't understand whats going on you cant analyse it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 01:35:22 AM
I wouldn't call some of the shit we've seen this year evolved. Regressed more like. Unfair on the field and off it right now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Darby on September 02, 2015, 02:49:55 AM
Both teams, and Dublin in particular, were appallingly cynical last Sunday. Worse than anything we've seen from Tyrone this year, and that's saying something!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on September 02, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
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Feck me Charlie's got it in for COC. Kept rabbiting on about the stitches ROC has, and not attending work, and blah blah blah but forgets to mention that is was standard joustle that ended up with an accidental clash that left a man badly split.

Also didn't see this punch he threw during the Connolly incident.

No mention of the Philly McMahon headbutt either, but then in Charlie's world your allowed to stay on the field after doing that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on September 02, 2015, 08:18:46 AM
This was Dublins first real test of the year and they were up to all sorts. Imagine if they were involved in an Ulster championship.  Tyrones games v Donegal and Monaghan created controversy because they are so tight and the teams know each other inside out. The westmeath, sligo, meath n tipp games were fairly incident free, much like Dublins Leinster championship campaign.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on September 02, 2015, 09:03:43 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 02, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
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Feck me Charlie's got it in for COC. Kept rabbiting on about the stitches ROC has, and not attending work, and blah blah blah but forgets to mention that is was standard joustle that ended up with an accidental clash that left a man badly split.

Also didn't see this punch he threw during the Connolly incident.

No mention of the Philly McMahon headbutt either, but then in Charlie's world your allowed to stay on the field after doing that.

Picked out mcstay for a lashing to while left the worst of the Sunday games offenders untouched. He even complimented whelan. Too little too late Darling Charlie
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 02, 2015, 09:32:28 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on September 02, 2015, 08:18:46 AM
This was Dublins first real test of the year and they were up to all sorts. Imagine if they were involved in an Ulster championship.  Tyrones games v Donegal and Monaghan created controversy because they are so tight and the teams know each other inside out. The westmeath, sligo, meath n tipp games were fairly incident free, much like Dublins Leinster championship campaign.

Good point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2015, 09:43:39 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 05:04:43 PM
I've been beating that drum for years - When your county is playing in the match none of the pundits should have a connection with them. There are plenty of people around who can give an opinion and analyse the games without feeling obliged to "back" their county in the event of controversy.

Having said that you probably couldn't get anyone to give an unbiased verdict on Dublin or Tyrone ;) ;) ;)

Have to say I was sickened to see Whealan and McStay on the panel on Sunday night. You just knew they were going to play to their own audience. Marc O'Se was no better playing the bride in waiting from Kerry. All had agendas. But who (of senior SG rank was left to put on? Martin McHugh?  ;D Cake Curran? 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 02, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
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Feck me Charlie's got it in for COC. Kept rabbiting on about the stitches ROC has, and not attending work, and blah blah blah but forgets to mention that is was standard joustle that ended up with an accidental clash that left a man badly split.

Also didn't see this punch he threw during the Connolly incident.

No mention of the Philly McMahon headbutt either, but then in Charlie's world your allowed to stay on the field after doing that.

The Dubs have footage of it apparently and are going to use it to try and get Connolly off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
It was posted here before. It certainly doesn't look like a punch to me, but even if the CCCCCCCCCCCC decide it is a punch, how would that help get Connolly off?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on September 02, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 02, 2015, 07:20:22 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
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Feck me Charlie's got it in for COC. Kept rabbiting on about the stitches ROC has, and not attending work, and blah blah blah but forgets to mention that is was standard joustle that ended up with an accidental clash that left a man badly split.

Also didn't see this punch he threw during the Connolly incident.

No mention of the Philly McMahon headbutt either, but then in Charlie's world your allowed to stay on the field after doing that.

The Dubs have footage of it apparently and are going to use it to try and get Connolly off.

;D

if a punch was thrown and such footage existed, how in unner a god would it get Connolly off?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
1. The Sunday game is not the GAA disciplinary committee. Its a TV show like Match of the day etc.
2. Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway.
3. Either Connolly gets off or Keegans yellow upgraded to red
4. Unbelievable and corrupt decision not to site O Connor for his assault on O Carroll. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 11:05:16 AM
1 - Correct, but the disciplinary committee has already met and decided not to impose any suspension arising from Sunday other than Connolly
2 - He threw a punch, that is not just 'breaking free'. (Keegan should have got a black card in my opinion though)
3 - Nope. Doesn't work like that now I'm afraid. Either Connolly gets off, or he doesn't. Keegan won't be upgraded, nor will COC be suspended for a phantom punch on Connolly. The CHC will listen to Connolly's appeal, not look to suspend the other lads.
4 - Subjective, emotive, nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 02, 2015, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
1. The Sunday game is not the GAA disciplinary committee. Its a TV show like Match of the day etc.
2. Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway.
3. Either Connolly gets off or Keegans yellow upgraded to red
4. Unbelievable and corrupt decision not to site O Connor for his assault on O Carroll.

Is this your final word on this??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
It was posted here before. It certainly doesn't look like a punch to me, but even if the CCCCCCCCCCCC decide it is a punch, how would that help get Connolly off?

Haven't seen the footage and I'm sure it'll be used, as is common with these appeals, as part of a list of every possible reason imaginable to get him off. e.g. why is our man being singled out unfairly when here is an exact replica where disciplinary action is not being taken. Kevin Keane's successful appeal will also be on this list.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Geoff Tipps on September 02, 2015, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
Good man Charlie - https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond[url]]]https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond[url] (https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond%5Burl=http://)[/url]

Seriously is Charlie alright?? In next week's instalment we hear his views on 9-11 and how Kevin McStay engineered the whole plot  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
It was posted here before. It certainly doesn't look like a punch to me, but even if the CCCCCCCCCCCC decide it is a punch, how would that help get Connolly off?

Haven't seen the footage and I'm sure it'll be used, as is common with these appeals, as part of a list of every possible reason imaginable to get him off. e.g. why is our man being singled out unfairly when here is an exact replica where disciplinary action is not being taken. Kevin Keane's successful appeal will also be on this list.

Nothing would surprise me with the process nowadays, but I'd say Keane being overturned would be more relevant. All the CCC have to say is O'Connor didn't punch, and the grounds for that avenue are then fucked entirely.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
It was posted here before. It certainly doesn't look like a punch to me, but even if the CCCCCCCCCCCC decide it is a punch, how would that help get Connolly off?

Haven't seen the footage and I'm sure it'll be used, as is common with these appeals, as part of a list of every possible reason imaginable to get him off. e.g. why is our man being singled out unfairly when here is an exact replica where disciplinary action is not being taken. Kevin Keane's successful appeal will also be on this list.

Nothing would surprise me with the process nowadays, but I'd say Keane being overturned would be more relevant. All the CCC have to say is O'Connor didn't punch, and the grounds for that avenue are then fucked entirely.

Aye but if you throw enough shit some of it is bound to stick. That's the hope/process with these appeals.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on September 02, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on September 02, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
It was posted here before. It certainly doesn't look like a punch to me, but even if the CCCCCCCCCCCC decide it is a punch, how would that help get Connolly off?

Haven't seen the footage and I'm sure it'll be used, as is common with these appeals, as part of a list of every possible reason imaginable to get him off. e.g. why is our man being singled out unfairly when here is an exact replica where disciplinary action is not being taken. Kevin Keane's successful appeal will also be on this list.

Nothing would surprise me with the process nowadays, but I'd say Keane being overturned would be more relevant. All the CCC have to say is O'Connor didn't punch, and the grounds for that avenue are then fucked entirely.

I was told (2nd hand info for sure) that Keane got off on a technicality, how true this is I don't know, but there may be some weight behind it as a strike is a strike is a stike. There may be

Disclaimer: all of the above is 2nd info and my opinion to reason why Keane indeed get off as it is a fair head scratcher. In no way do i want to be clumped in with the delusional Dubs and their inside info hocus pocus poop
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 02, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: Declan on September 01, 2015, 10:01:23 PM
Good man Charlie - https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond[url=http://]]https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond[url]]]]https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond[url] (https://soundcloud.com/dublinsfm104/charlie-redmond?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=wtshare&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fdublinsfm104%2Fcharlie-redmond%5Burl=http://)[/url]

16s in, he says "it was a great spectacle for the GAA". Even apart from the other delusional stuff in which he was presumably playing to his audience, how can that game be considered a great spectacle ffs. Exciting last 10mins but a poor game overall
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
I agree with Charlie, McStay must resign now, if not, be sacked, too much of this over the years, he can bring Mcgee and Brolly with him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: deiseach on September 02, 2015, 12:37:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 02, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
I was told (2nd hand info for sure) that Keane got off on a technicality, how true this is I don't know, but there may be some weight behind it as a strike is a strike is a stike. There may be

Disclaimer: all of the above is 2nd info and my opinion to reason why Keane indeed get off as it is a fair head scratcher. In no way do i want to be clumped in with the delusional Dubs and their inside info hocus pocus poop

Too late!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nihilist on September 02, 2015, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
I agree with Charlie, McStay must resign now, if not, be sacked, too much of this over the years, he can bring Mcgee and Brolly with him.

And who should replace them.
Let me guess Charlie Redmond and Pillar.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 02, 2015, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
I agree with Charlie, McStay must resign now, if not, be sacked, too much of this over the years, he can bring Mcgee and Brolly with him.

And who should replace them.
Let me guess Charlie Redmond and Pillar.

McGuinness, Canavan, perhaps down the line Sean Cavanagh , loads out there, but the two bias clowns McStay and McGee should be sacked, it needs freshening up.

Don't get the Pillar thing, don't see his name mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on September 02, 2015, 01:34:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:52:28 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 02, 2015, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
I agree with Charlie, McStay must resign now, if not, be sacked, too much of this over the years, he can bring Mcgee and Brolly with him.

And who should replace them.
Let me guess Charlie Redmond and Pillar.

McGuinness, Canavan, perhaps down the line Sean Cavanagh , loads out there, but the two bias clowns McStay and McGee should be sacked, it needs freshening up.

Don't get the Pillar thing, don't see his name mentioned anywhere.

Interesting, do you think you'll have any more nuggets for us? Or is this your final say on the matter?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on September 02, 2015, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: deiseach on September 02, 2015, 12:37:21 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 02, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
I was told (2nd hand info for sure) that Keane got off on a technicality, how true this is I don't know, but there may be some weight behind it as a strike is a strike is a stike. There may be

Disclaimer: all of the above is 2nd info and my opinion to reason why Keane indeed get off as it is a fair head scratcher. In no way do i want to be clumped in with the delusional Dubs and their inside info hocus pocus poop

Too late!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2015, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
1. The Sunday game is not the GAA disciplinary committee. Its a TV show like Match of the day etc.
2. Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway.
3. Either Connolly gets off or Keegans yellow upgraded to red
4. Unbelievable and corrupt decision not to site O Connor for his assault on O Carroll.

Where would they 'site' O'Connor?

As long as he is sited putting the ball between the posts we may have grounds for agreement.  ;D

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 05:11:01 PM
McStay will be leaving soon but it won't be because of soemthing he said.

8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 05:11:01 PM
McStay will be leaving soon but it won't be because of soemthing he said.

8)

Going to Roscommon.

Quote from: muppet on September 02, 2015, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
1. The Sunday game is not the GAA disciplinary committee. Its a TV show like Match of the day etc.
2. Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway.
3. Either Connolly gets off or Keegans yellow upgraded to red
4. Unbelievable and corrupt decision not to site O Connor for his assault on O Carroll.

Where would they 'site' O'Connor?

As long as he is sited putting the ball between the posts we may have grounds for agreement.  ;D



Good peno il give you that but the frees 20 yards out in front of the post , my leprosy riddled Yorkshire terrier could have scored 10 points on Sunday. O Shea and O Connor go missing in big games, don't have the bottle for it .

It's quite funny that it means more to Mayo fans to beat Dublin than actually winning the All Ireland, no wonder they can't win it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 05:11:01 PM
McStay will be leaving soon but it won't be because of soemthing he said.

8)

Going to Roscommon.

Quote from: muppet on September 02, 2015, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
1. The Sunday game is not the GAA disciplinary committee. Its a TV show like Match of the day etc.
2. Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway.
3. Either Connolly gets off or Keegans yellow upgraded to red
4. Unbelievable and corrupt decision not to site O Connor for his assault on O Carroll.

Where would they 'site' O'Connor?

As long as he is sited putting the ball between the posts we may have grounds for agreement.  ;D



Good peno il give you that but the frees 20 yards out in front of the post , my leprosy riddled Yorkshire terrier could have scored 10 points on Sunday. O Shea and O Connor go missing in big games, don't have the bottle for it .

It's quite funny that it means more to Mayo fans to beat Dublin than actually winning the All Ireland, no wonder they can't win it.

Never a truer word then your last sentence. I'm sure they'll be dancing like crazed loons on Saturday after their likely win and then at some point it will hit them- jaysus no trophy here and then memories of 2004 and 2006 come flooding back
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on September 02, 2015, 08:56:21 PM
Keep showing yourselves up lads
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2015, 08:58:26 PM
The paranoia is strong in theses ones!

Losing to Dublin would be no different to losing to Kerry last year, or Donegal in 2012, or anyone else in the Championship. Winning would be no different to winning any other semi-final either.

What the f*ck is wrong with you two? Seriously?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2015, 09:06:04 PM
The Dublin Lads, ye got to Chill.God help us if ye actually lost the game last Sunday. As for us being delighted to beat ye. Well yes! It would be an insult to ye if we were not? The Dublin fans around me last Sunday looked pretty pleased to be winning with seven minutes to go, so why can't we be pleased with such a result. Now I know with us there is also the added bonus of beating you on your own patch that goes with any win away from home. But hey before ye get to cocky, beating Kerry is the one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 03, 2015, 07:18:54 PM
Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway. lol

Naw Connolly just has a history of Assault both on and off the field fullstop.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on September 03, 2015, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 03, 2015, 07:18:54 PM
Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway. lol

Naw Connolly just has a history of Assault both on and off the field fullstop.

As does Keegan, a serial assaulter with his mate O Conner, childish from the Mayo fans ignoring the trampish and thuggery from their players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mikehunt on September 03, 2015, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
my leprosy riddled Yorkshire terrier could have scored 10 points on Sunday.
ISPCA will be on to you. Did you not know it was contagious?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 04, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2015, 05:11:01 PM
McStay will be leaving soon but it won't be because of soemthing he said.

8)

Going to Roscommon.

Quote from: muppet on September 02, 2015, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
1. The Sunday game is not the GAA disciplinary committee. Its a TV show like Match of the day etc.
2. Connolly was just trying to break free from the grapple assault by Keegan who has history of grappling assaults on players, just ask Galway.
3. Either Connolly gets off or Keegans yellow upgraded to red
4. Unbelievable and corrupt decision not to site O Connor for his assault on O Carroll.

Where would they 'site' O'Connor?

As long as he is sited putting the ball between the posts we may have grounds for agreement.  ;D



Good peno il give you that but the frees 20 yards out in front of the post , my leprosy riddled Yorkshire terrier could have scored 10 points on Sunday. O Shea and O Connor go missing in big games, don't have the bottle for it .

It's quite funny that it means more to Mayo fans to beat Dublin than actually winning the All Ireland, no wonder they can't win it.

Never a truer word then your last sentence. I'm sure they'll be dancing like crazed loons on Saturday after their likely win and then at some point it will hit them- jaysus no trophy here and then memories of 2004 and 2006 come flooding back

I'm afraid you're wrong (once again) INDIANA.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on September 04, 2015, 03:29:32 PM
Indiana
Never
Deviates
In
Always
Neglecting
Accuracy

;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on September 05, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
Brolly: "Philly McMahon had a 50 metre diameter all around him"

What's that mean? Would that be a 100m radius?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 05, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
Brolly: "Philly McMahon had a 50 metre diameter all around him"

What's that mean? Would that be a 100m radius?

Means you have to go back to school.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on September 05, 2015, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 05, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
Brolly: "Philly McMahon had a 50 metre diameter all around him"

What's that mean? Would that be a 100m radius?

Means you have to go back to school.

Hmm... I know what he meant but what he said was something different

What's that thought bubble stuff he's ramblin about not, god forbid talking football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 05, 2015, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 05, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
Brolly: "Philly McMahon had a 50 metre diameter all around him"

What's that mean? Would that be a 100m radius?

Means you have to go back to school.

Hmm... I know what he meant but what he said was something different

What's that thought bubble stuff he's ramblin about not, god forbid talking football

You just never know what Joe is going to come out with. Talking football not a priority.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on September 05, 2015, 08:15:17 PM
Brolly never gives a team credit for a goal or a good piece of play if a team scores a goal its a defensive breakdown not a piece of skill that did it, surely attacking play deserves some credit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 05, 2015, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: Gmac on September 05, 2015, 08:15:17 PM
Brolly never gives a team credit for a goal or a good piece of play if a team scores a goal its a defensive breakdown not a piece of skill that did it, surely attacking play deserves some credit.

Totally agree, he's a total p***k. He thinks he's the leading expert on defensive formations. I would love to see him manage a team at senior level and then we'd see how much of an expert he is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on September 05, 2015, 09:49:33 PM
Masters of defeat is harsh when you're playing the best in Ireland.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-calls-mayo-the-masters-of-disaster-after-dublin-defeat-31504966.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 05, 2015, 11:48:42 PM
Brolly is a brat, not an ounce of credit given to Dublin and basically slating Mayo............. He should go of and kiss his wife's stamp, I'm sick of the sight of him
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on September 06, 2015, 12:58:22 AM
First of all Brolly wants Mayo to push up hard on Dublins kick outs and then wants them all back when Dublin attack.I have never seen a worse analyst in my life and not to give Dublin any credit for todays finish is mind boggling.The first goal took an awful lot out of Mayo and when momentum is with a team they look a lot fitter than the opposition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 06, 2015, 01:16:37 AM
Brolly pointed out Mayo were totally open at the back, hell didn't that come back to roost on Mayo, first 2 Dublin goals were flukes and very poor defending, 3rd goal too should have been prevented
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on September 06, 2015, 03:13:39 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 06, 2015, 01:16:37 AM
Brolly pointed out Mayo were totally open at the back, hell didn't that come back to roost on Mayo, first 2 Dublin goals were flukes and very poor defending, 3rd goal too should have been prevented

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on September 06, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
Had a laugh at Spillane. After every game he makes out the panel have been highlighting the issues all year. BS Pat, the panel see nothing coming and everyone sees it after the event.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 06, 2015, 07:25:32 AM
Quote from: maigheo on September 06, 2015, 12:58:22 AM
First of all Brolly wants Mayo to push up hard on Dublins kick outs and then wants them all back when Dublin attack.I have never seen a worse analyst in my life and not to give Dublin any credit for todays finish is mind boggling.The first goal took an awful lot out of Mayo and when momentum is with a team they look a lot fitter than the opposition.

Totally agree with your first point. He is a complete bluffer, if he had experience of implementing a defensive strategy or managing a team I would give him some credibility. He is turning into the alan hansen of the sunday game ie every goal is the result of a poor defensive strategy. The ordinary fan at home doesn't want to hear that. They would like to see some credit given to the attacking players and some enthusiasm for attacking play.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stringbean on September 06, 2015, 10:49:07 AM
Why do we continue to put up with such sub standard analysis, if you can vote with your remote and switch to sky. Listening to Jim McGuiness thought process is fascinating, so obvious he's involved in the modern game!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on September 06, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
Are there that many people who want "analysis"?  You've watched the game.  I think of the RTE pundits during the game as 3 mates down the Pub argueing about the game.  On  the SG at night I'd prefer more coverage of the games rather than "Analysis".

Maybe it is a Generation thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: CiKe on September 06, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: lenny on September 06, 2015, 07:25:32 AM
Quote from: maigheo on September 06, 2015, 12:58:22 AM
First of all Brolly wants Mayo to push up hard on Dublins kick outs and then wants them all back when Dublin attack.I have never seen a worse analyst in my life and not to give Dublin any credit for todays finish is mind boggling.The first goal took an awful lot out of Mayo and when momentum is with a team they look a lot fitter than the opposition.

Totally agree with your first point. He is a complete bluffer, if he had experience of implementing a defensive strategy or managing a team I would give him some credibility. He is turning into the alan hansen of the sunday game ie every goal is the result of a poor defensive strategy. The ordinary fan at home doesn't want to hear that. They would like to see some credit given to the attacking players and some enthusiasm for attacking play.

I've no management experience but you don't need management experience to see that those first two goals at least were preventable and while understandable that defence was more stretched for the third goal I thought the keeper should have stopped it - he almost seemed to dive out of the way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on September 06, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 06, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
Are there that many people who want "analysis"?  You've watched the game.  I think of the RTE pundits during the game as 3 mates down the Pub argueing about the game.  On  the SG at night I'd prefer more coverage of the games rather than "Analysis".

Maybe it is a Generation thing.

Yes, that's true but the analysis is a big part of the coverage and is hard to ignore if you are sitting down to watch a match. As such, I'd prefer if it was decent rather than just 3 men chatting in a pub!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2015, 08:09:44 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on September 06, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
Are there that many people who want "analysis"?  You've watched the game.  I think of the RTE pundits during the game as 3 mates down the Pub argueing about the game.  On  the SG at night I'd prefer more coverage of the games rather than "Analysis".

Maybe it is a Generation thing.

Yeah I would agree. It's become more about the guys on it than the games. Sometimes you tune in for games you've missed and you'd be lucky if the highlights showed about 50% of the scores.

At half time they have to talk fair enough but not on the evening show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on September 07, 2015, 08:23:31 AM
An alternate view is that nowadays anyone can watch the entire game later on if they wish, on the playback, so showing a lot of highlights isn't necessarily what people want. Good analysis would be of some use and the evening analysis is better than the live version.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2015, 08:29:13 AM
It's definitely better - mainly due to Brolly and Spillane not being there.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on September 07, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
It's got to the stage no matter what Sunday Game football panel say they will get hammered. If you get the name for rising early etc. Brolly called it 100% right at half time on Saturday. Could see no problem with the analysis...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on September 20, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
They've started AIF day by rubbishing the game and the championship. No matter what problems we perceive, this is not the day for that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 20, 2015, 02:25:39 PM
Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
They've started AIF day by rubbishing the game and the championship. No matter what problems we perceive, this is not the day for that.

In fairness this is the best day for it. Biggest audience. Until people wake up the sad fact is most of what Broly and O'Rourke said is very relevant.

A professional final in an amateur sport.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 20, 2015, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: Hardy on September 20, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
They've started AIF day by rubbishing the game and the championship. No matter what problems we perceive, this is not the day for that.
But it was a poor championship...

Leinster is a mess. Only Ulster is competitive.
and the same teams share Sam.Except Mayo..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Martin Carney...........Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Line Ball on September 20, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Martin Carney...........Why?

"He's a big unit"  WTF
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on September 20, 2015, 04:26:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on September 20, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Martin Carney...........Why?

"He's a big unit"  WTF
Common enough saying.
"Carney's a bollix" - common enough saying.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on September 20, 2015, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: trileacman on September 20, 2015, 04:26:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on September 20, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Martin Carney...........Why?

"He's a big unit"  WTF
Common enough saying.
"Carney's a bollix" - common enough saying.

Absolutely. Couldn't believe he got todays gig,anyone know how to go about getting an online petition set up? Get that gobshite off RTE for next year. >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Conallach on September 20, 2015, 05:32:29 PM
RTÉ's coverage as Gaeilge this year was a nice touch and much appreciated. Quite enjoyed listening to the two lads, and also not listening to Canning & Carney!

Hope it returns next year. Well done all
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
McStay said a lot about the Philly - Donaghy incident without saying anything.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Estimator on September 20, 2015, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
McStay said a lot about the Philly - Donaghy incident without saying anything.
"He plays on the edge" is now the excuse for horrible actions by players we don't want to criticise. Gouging somebody's eye couldn't be further from the edge.

"He's had a great year"
Another super reason for not saying anything bad about the fella
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
McStay said a lot about the Philly - Donaghy incident without saying anything.
"He plays on the edge" is now the excuse for horrible actions by players we don't want to criticise. Gouging somebody's eye couldn't be further from the edge.

'Playing on the edge' is adding a bit extra to a tackle. Where the player adds a bit more muscle, pulls a jersey, holds a hand, etc
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bridgegael on September 20, 2015, 10:50:03 PM
the lads are having great craic here
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Westside on September 20, 2015, 10:59:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2015, 10:36:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
McStay said a lot about the Philly - Donaghy incident without saying anything.
"He plays on the edge" is now the excuse for horrible actions by players we don't want to criticise. Gouging somebody's eye couldn't be further from the edge.

This is what I wonder.. the edge of what exactly? If you're going in for a shoulder and it's borderline frontal or you're tackling hard and it's borderline fouling, surely that's the edge. There was no fair attempt at a footballing action that McMahon was on the edge of there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2015, 11:24:26 PM
Des fancies Fenton.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 20, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
McStay is one pompous, smarmy f**ker.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 20, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
McStay is one pompous, smarmy f**ker.

Yeah, he learned not to let the Mayo are losers tag affect him!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveballaghback on September 20, 2015, 11:45:04 PM
Have to say rte coverage of our games over the summer was brilliant, yes we could do without Martin Carney but I would say today was his swan song, over all they have challenged and we have had fair analysis of most all incidents, they tackled the issues when they came up and coverage on both radio and tele were second to none regardless of code, yes there are pundits we love to hate and there have been controversies but that is their job and I for one say well done and roll on 2016.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on September 20, 2015, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 20, 2015, 11:45:04 PM
Have to say rte coverage of our games over the summer was brilliant, yes we could do without Martin Carney but I would say today was his swan song, over all they have challenged and we have had fair analysis of most all incidents, they tackled the issues when they came up and coverage on both radio and tele were second to none regardless of code, yes there are pundits we love to hate and there have been controversies but that is their job and I for one say well done and roll on 2016.

Are you drunk?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on September 20, 2015, 11:53:15 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on September 20, 2015, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 20, 2015, 11:45:04 PM
Have to say rte coverage of our games over the summer was brilliant, yes we could do without Martin Carney but I would say today was his swan song, over all they have challenged and we have had fair analysis of most all incidents, they tackled the issues when they came up and coverage on both radio and tele were second to none regardless of code, yes there are pundits we love to hate and there have been controversies but that is their job and I for one say well done and roll on 2016.

Are you drunk?

Ballagh rossies are always drunk
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 20, 2015, 11:54:24 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on September 20, 2015, 11:45:04 PM
Have to say rte coverage of our games over the summer was brilliant, yes we could do without Martin Carney but I would say today was his swan song, over all they have challenged and we have had fair analysis of most all incidents, they tackled the issues when they came up and coverage on both radio and tele were second to none regardless of code, yes there are pundits we love to hate and there have been controversies but that is their job and I for one say well done and roll on 2016.

Are you Tommy Carr?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveballaghback on September 20, 2015, 11:56:45 PM
Are you Rachel Wise or is it Joe stupid.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on September 21, 2015, 12:09:34 AM
QuoteThis is what I wonder.. the edge of what exactly? If you're going in for a shoulder and it's borderline frontal or you're tackling hard and it's borderline fouling, surely that's the edge. There was no fair attempt at a footballing action that McMahon was on the edge of there.

Whelan brings nothing to the analysis imo, and tonight proved it again.  'He plays on the edge, he's had a great year ...' ok then, sure he's entitled to try to gouge out another person's eye. 

I'd say the focus put on the incident, with the zoomed in camera, was uncomfortable viewing back at the Gibson Hotel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on September 21, 2015, 01:15:17 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on September 21, 2015, 12:09:34 AM
QuoteThis is what I wonder.. the edge of what exactly? If you're going in for a shoulder and it's borderline frontal or you're tackling hard and it's borderline fouling, surely that's the edge. There was no fair attempt at a footballing action that McMahon was on the edge of there.

Whelan brings nothing to the analysis imo, and tonight proved it again.  'He plays on the edge, he's had a great year ...' ok then, sure he's entitled to try to gouge out another person's eye. 

I'd say the focus put on the incident, with the zoomed in camera, was uncomfortable viewing back at the Gibson Hotel.

Nah. Philly did nothing wrong. Clear on the video. Donaghy shoved his eye down into McMahon's glove and went moaning to ref after claiming a gouge.
Similar situation in semi. Aidan O Shea pulled Philly into him so that Philly's head connected with him and it appeared that it was a head butt, Aidan said he was headbutted when asked by reporters after so he's a complete w**ker.

Nothing to see here (no pun intended here in case of Donaghy :D)

Antbody else think that Tomás was very rattled and uncomfortable there tonight. Lost his train of thought at times I thought.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Catch and Kick on September 21, 2015, 01:39:11 PM
Yeah I thought Tomás looked rattled when the others were slagging him off alright. The manner in which the McMahon incident was glossed over was really annoying and if I were from Ulster I would be apoplectic with rage. Brolly obviously missed tiger selection meeting to pick the team of the year - was it deliberate! Time to stop using pundits from the counties involved. There are so many counties ignored when it comes to selecting the panel that could give every bit as valid commentary who are never involved in the latter stages....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on September 21, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
Had it been a player from an Ulster county involved there would have been the usual hysteria.

Galvin also was involved in a eye gouging incident Cadogan a few years back so they can hardly play the victim card here. The complete double standards in place at the RTE studios is nothing but predictable at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on September 22, 2015, 04:34:37 PM
I watched a bit of the build up on Sky and then on RTE. I started watching the match on Sky and at half time switched back to RTE. Listen to Canning and Carney for two minutes and couldn't stick the shit talk so switched back to Sky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 22, 2015, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 21, 2015, 01:48:09 PM
Had it been a player from an Ulster county involved there would have been the usual hysteria.

Galvin also was involved in a eye gouging incident Cadogan a few years back so they can hardly play the victim card here. The complete double standards in place at the RTE studios is nothing but predictable at this stage.

It wasn't eye gouging it was "fish hooking" his mouth.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: comeysfield on September 22, 2015, 05:49:05 PM
What did Sky say about the "Philly leave her on the field" nothing to see here incident ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
The dream team very much on duty for Derry v Tyrone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on May 22, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
The dream team very much on duty for Derry v Tyrone.

Same oul rigmarole for the RTE boyos.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 22, 2016, 02:07:30 PM
Martin Carney..........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2016, 02:07:44 PM
Fckn RTE 1, no HD. Same last night with the hurling
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
I can assure you the two Martys sound exactly the same in HD.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 22, 2016, 02:11:52 PM
Someone tell Carney Derry is on the shores of Lough Foyle, not Lough Swilly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 22, 2016, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 22, 2016, 02:07:30 PM
Martin Carney..........

:'(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2016, 02:53:25 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 22, 2016, 02:11:52 PM
Someone tell Carney Derry is on the shores of Lough Foyle, not Lough Swilly.

While they're at it, tell him to shut the f*ck up altogether!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 22, 2016, 02:57:38 PM
Pure amateur stuff today, broadcasting from the side of the pitch, must be cutbacks in the sports department.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2016, 03:00:24 PM
They were lucky the rain stopped.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on May 22, 2016, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 22, 2016, 02:57:38 PM
Pure amateur stuff today, broadcasting from the side of the pitch, must be cutbacks in the sports department.

Doubt there is any cutback in the wages.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on May 22, 2016, 11:12:10 PM
Paranoid hat on here but had what happened in the Kildare-Wexford game at the end happened in Ulster there would have been a 10 minute segment on it.

Not a peep about it there.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 23, 2016, 12:15:30 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 22, 2016, 11:12:10 PM
Paranoid hat on here but had what happened in the Kildare-Wexford game at the end happened in Ulster there would have been a 10 minute segment on it.

Not a peep about it there.

Maybe there is a new policy of positivity on The Sunday Game this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 23, 2016, 01:01:02 AM
Another year of Ger Canning. I thought he'd have retired by now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 23, 2016, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 23, 2016, 01:01:02 AM
Another year of Ger Canning. I thought he'd have retired by now.

It's a HUGE one..............
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 22, 2016, 11:12:10 PM
Paranoid hat on here but had what happened in the Kildare-Wexford game at the end happened in Ulster there would have been a 10 minute segment on it.

Not a peep about it there.

I thought wee Marty went a bit over the top when the Derry and Tyrone lads engaged in a bit of pushing and shoving along the sideline in the first 5 minutes when no real harm was done.

The Wex-KD schemozzle got little or no mention other than a bit by Burns and O'Rourke mentioning it in the build up to the live game on the Sunday, did they mention it last night?
I turned off once the hurling was over!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 23, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
Quote from: johnneycool on May 23, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 22, 2016, 11:12:10 PM
Paranoid hat on here but had what happened in the Kildare-Wexford game at the end happened in Ulster there would have been a 10 minute segment on it.

Not a peep about it there.

I thought wee Marty went a bit over the top when the Derry and Tyrone lads engaged in a bit of pushing and shoving along the sideline in the first 5 minutes when no real harm was done.
He always does it, every bloody time, the slightest bit of jostling and he goes all Mrs Lovejoy about it.

For all the sometimes deserved stick Canning gets about his commentary I've always found Morrissey far more annoying, but he seems to get away lightly on it because he's good old Marty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on May 23, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2016, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 23, 2016, 01:01:02 AM
Another year of Ger Canning. I thought he'd have retired by now.

It's a HUGE one..............
Sometimes it's a big, huge one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on May 23, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2016, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 23, 2016, 01:01:02 AM
Another year of Ger Canning. I thought he'd have retired by now.

It's a HUGE one..............
Sometimes it's a big, huge one.
He is so bland. The way he reacted to Armagh in 02 and Tyrone in 03, probably two of the top 10  sporting events in Ireland  in the last 20 years, was appalling .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on May 23, 2016, 12:13:30 PM
Bugs me somewhat to hear commentators referring to players' nicknames while commentating. Wonder if they ever asked the players in question whether they like it or not. One thing to have a nickname mates might use but imo another thing to have a complete stranger spouting it on a commentary.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 23, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
I don't mind them using the players nicknames.
It's when they use their nicknames AND their real names AT THE SAME TIME that annoys me.  >:(
"Colm 'Gooch' Cooper", for example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 23, 2016, 12:14:37 PM
I don't mind them using the players nicknames.
It's when they use their nicknames AND their real names AT THE SAME TIME that annoys me.  >:(
"Colm 'Gooch' Cooper", for example.
It must be RTE policy. They never give the nicknames in the pictures at the start of the match, do they ? 
Ger always comes across as the fella who does the chat with the expert who actually follows the game beside him
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 23, 2016, 12:38:03 PM
Occasionally Ger lets the patrician facade slip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy9z1Ul_to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy9z1Ul_to)

Compare that with the master though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
Is it me or are the pundits looking younger and younger  :'(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:49:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 23, 2016, 12:38:03 PM
Occasionally Ger lets the patrician facade slip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy9z1Ul_to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy9z1Ul_to)

Compare that with the master though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU)
MoM is the sound of the summer. GC is more like lift music.
And the way MoM says "Colm O Rourke"..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2016, 12:49:38 PM
MoM was such a brilliant commentator. Thanks a million for that clip Jinxy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:50:29 PM
The amazing thing about those 4 matches was that Down won the all Ireland
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on May 23, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:50:29 PM
The amazing thing about those 4 matches was that Down won the all Ireland
[/quote
Nothing amazing about it. Down were the best team in the country that summer and deserved it. Meath nearly got dumped out again to wicklow in the following round. ]
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 23, 2016, 01:29:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:50:29 PM
The amazing thing about those 4 matches was that Down won the all Ireland

Yeah, most people don't remember that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 23, 2016, 05:02:27 PM
Is there anywhere a man can watch or download the game again from yesterday (Tyr v Derry)?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 23, 2016, 09:25:38 PM
The game should be on the BBC player, the RTE player and on GAaGo if you are in a distant land.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 23, 2016, 10:34:05 PM
Suppose they're keeping Darragh Maloney in reserve for Dublin matches only again this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 23, 2016, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 23, 2016, 10:34:05 PM
Suppose they're keeping Darragh Maloney in reserve for Dublin matches only again this year.
With Euro 2016 presenting duties his schedule might be reduced even more til late summer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 23, 2016, 11:05:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2016, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on May 23, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 23, 2016, 01:07:50 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 23, 2016, 01:01:02 AM
Another year of Ger Canning. I thought he'd have retired by now.

It's a HUGE one..............
Sometimes it's a big, huge one.
He is so bland. The way he reacted to Armagh in 02 and Tyrone in 03, probably two of the top 10  sporting events in Ireland  in the last 20 years, was appalling .

Oh yes, that footballing stronghold of Benburb as I recall hearing...over the squeals of the cat being strangled and the dog yelping as it was booted 6 foot in the air.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on May 23, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
You can see a commentators yrue worth when the games are poor and they were pigs of games this weekend for a variety of reasons. Weather, mismayches, negative tactics etc. For me Ger Canning is a fraud who has been slowly winding down to retirement for past yen odd years. The problem is we have to endure this guys dogshit commentary until he gets the punchy RTE pension. When he presents greyhound racing, he looks and sounds about 15 years younger. Get rid. Also the analyis is shoddy. T O Se adds little by way of post natch analysis in contrast to his big brother. Ciaran Whelan is excellent but show in general poor. Martin Carney used bug me as well but at least hes interested in what hes commentating on. And Darragh Moloney was brought up to Derry to srand on the line so to speak..nonsense. He should be on whenever available. Interestly in doc. about AI final last year, he stated that he bought all the papers the weekend before games and scoured for the lesser known facts about players as he saw it his duty to  inform the viewership. Canning the chancer can barely be arsed going to the games it seems.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 23, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
That MOM clip is really powerful. I think Marty is better than Canning. At least there's some genuine excitement about the game there. I was buzzing with anticipation for yesterday's games but my heart sank a bit when I heard Carney was back again.

There's a general laziness and complacency about the punditry in both codes I would say. I don't see anyone there who's doing research and has a detailed knowledge of what's going on in counties, other than their own. I think you'd get a much better standard of analysis if they forgot about hiring former greats and hired a few sports geeks, whose job would be as full-time analysts, and whose working week would involve re-watching videos of games, researching local papers and forums and going to as many club games as they could, so that they would be able to tell us things we don't know already. The current lot obviously just show up and go through the motions, tell us what we know already, and I'm baffled as to why it makes any difference that they were once a great player/manager. I'd love to see and hear a few analysts who never played county, but are dedicated to their role.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 23, 2016, 11:27:54 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on May 23, 2016, 11:20:46 PM
You can see a commentators yrue worth when the games are poor and they were pigs of games this weekend for a variety of reasons. Weather, mismayches, negative tactics etc. For me Ger Canning is a fraud who has been slowly winding down to retirement for past yen odd years. The problem is we have to endure this guys dogshit commentary until he gets the punchy RTE pension. When he presents greyhound racing, he looks and sounds about 15 years younger. Get rid. Also the analyis is shoddy. T O Se adds little by way of post natch analysis in contrast to his big brother. Ciaran Whelan is excellent but show in general poor. Martin Carney used bug me as well but at least hes interested in what hes commentating on. And Darragh Moloney was brought up to Derry to srand on the line so to speak..nonsense. He should be on whenever available. Interestly in doc. about AI final last year, he stated that he bought all the papers the weekend before games and scoured for the lesser known facts about players as he saw it his duty to  inform the viewership. Canning the chancer can barely be arsed going to the games it seems.
Fair play to Maloney. That's what's needed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 24, 2016, 09:16:41 AM
Darragh Maloney is the best commentator by a country mile
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 24, 2016, 10:07:50 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 23, 2016, 12:38:03 PM
Occasionally Ger lets the patrician facade slip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy9z1Ul_to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy9z1Ul_to)

Compare that with the master though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU)

Chalk and cheese.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
A good starting point for a commentator is to give you the impression that if they weren't being paid to be there, they'd be there watching anyway.
I get that from Maloney.
I don't get it from Canning.
I get it from Marty as well to be fair, although I wouldn't want to be sitting beside him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 24, 2016, 02:48:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 24, 2016, 10:52:29 AM
A good starting point for a commentator is to give you the impression that if they weren't being paid to be there, they'd be there watching anyway.
I get that from Maloney.
I don't get it from Canning.
I get it from Marty as well to be fair, although I wouldn't want to be sitting beside him.

That's a great point. Canning often sounds bored to even be there, regardless of who is playing, the score or the over all quality of the game. I'd love to see the rugby pundit Corcoran take a stab at doing GAA games. He's gets so into it all, you'd be worried he is going to have a heart attack sometimes.

Carney & Brian Carthy, between them, must have video evidence of the Director Generals in RTE (all of them) engaged in some sort of Silence of the Lambs ritualistic serial killing. It's the own thing that can explain their not being put out to pasture 20 years ago. Its one thing having them on from May-August, when there may be several games on, on the one day & resources are stretched. But giving Carney the All Ireland final, year in, year out....Jesus Christ like !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 24, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
I've softened on Brian Carthy on the radio in fairness. His voice seems synonymous with it at this stage. I still hate the way he goes 'A sideline to Cork, and Cork have the sideline'. And he rarely gives the scores either.

Canning is just a gowl.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on May 24, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
I like Martin Carney co commentating. In fairness to him he easily passes the test that he would be at the game if he wasn't working there. Very obvious he loves the game and that is enough for me.

Have to say I love it when he points out that there "was no malice in it" when some player is getting to his feet groggily after getting flattened.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 24, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
I like Martin Carney co commentating. In fairness to him he easily passes the test that he would be at the game if he wasn't working there. Very obvious he loves the game and that is enough for me.

Have to say I love it when he points out that there "was no malice in it" when some player is getting to his feet groggily after getting flattened.

Here's another commentator that 'loves the game'.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA)

3:26 cracks me up every time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 24, 2016, 03:13:20 PM
Eddie really *does* love the game. He's a woeful Tipp football man.

I'd love to see this documentary :) I know his brother Pat, and his son Anthony. Sound men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqCq_S3lmWA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqCq_S3lmWA)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on May 24, 2016, 03:56:12 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 24, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
I like Martin Carney co commentating. In fairness to him he easily passes the test that he would be at the game if he wasn't working there. Very obvious he loves the game and that is enough for me.

Have to say I love it when he points out that there "was no malice in it" when some player is getting to his feet groggily after getting flattened.

I am biased obviously being from Mayo, but I like Carney as well. He certainly passes any test regarding whether he would be at the game anyway or not.

Regarding Maloney, I like him but surely reading the Sunday papers to see what facts other hacks have dug up is the least he could do? MOM travelled the country in the winter, meeting lads at anything from junior 'B' games up. That is where he got the stories. I remember him showing up unannounced at school training once, the intensity instantly went through the roof and even goal-shy lads were shooting from everywhere. The only story he got that day was that he didn't need to worry about collecting any stories about us.

One way of looking at the modern commentators is that to be fair to them, we were completely spoiled, first with O'Hehir, a consulate profession who created the genre, and then MOM, who was the fans commentator. Just listening to him on the radio increased the heart-rate no matter what the match. We knew it would be impossible to replace the latter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 24, 2016, 04:07:56 PM
 I love this piece of commentary from Maloney, and to be fair, Carney was pretty good too

'Christie out of the game, they must work a score form this.....'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 24, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 24, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 24, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
I like Martin Carney co commentating. In fairness to him he easily passes the test that he would be at the game if he wasn't working there. Very obvious he loves the game and that is enough for me.

Have to say I love it when he points out that there "was no malice in it" when some player is getting to his feet groggily after getting flattened.

Here's another commentator that 'loves the game'.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA)

3:26 cracks me up every time.
I wouldnt be a fan of Mark Sidebottom, but he certainly meets the criteria for loving the game.
This never fails to make me smile, from about 1 minute in, he really goes into overdrive

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/21410113 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/21410113)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 24, 2016, 06:17:20 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 24, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 24, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 24, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
I like Martin Carney co commentating. In fairness to him he easily passes the test that he would be at the game if he wasn't working there. Very obvious he loves the game and that is enough for me.

Have to say I love it when he points out that there "was no malice in it" when some player is getting to his feet groggily after getting flattened.

Here's another commentator that 'loves the game'.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA)

3:26 cracks me up every time.
I wouldnt be a fan of Mark Sidebottom, but he certainly meets the criteria for loving the game.
This never fails to make me smile, from about 1 minute in, he really goes into overdrive

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/21410113 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/21410113)

Great passion. It was so lively it would wake Ger Canning up!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2016, 06:26:51 PM
I have said before, regardless of what you think of Sidebottoms ability as a commentator, he is a big fan of football and hurling. He played hurling for our club from underage to senior and was pretty handy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 24, 2016, 06:36:27 PM
And he doesn't wear a poppy on screen
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2016, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 24, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
I've softened on Brian Carthy on the radio in fairness. His voice seems synonymous with it at this stage. I still hate the way he goes 'A sideline to Cork, and Cork have the sideline'. And he rarely gives the scores either.

Canning is just a gowl.
Carthy doesn't have the smarts that the likes of Maloney or MoM have. He asked some Oz sportsman in CP if he agreed that hurling was the greatest game in the world. Christ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 25, 2016, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 24, 2016, 04:17:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 24, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: Canalman on May 24, 2016, 03:06:31 PM
I like Martin Carney co commentating. In fairness to him he easily passes the test that he would be at the game if he wasn't working there. Very obvious he loves the game and that is enough for me.

Have to say I love it when he points out that there "was no malice in it" when some player is getting to his feet groggily after getting flattened.

Here's another commentator that 'loves the game'.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZKOsxkzvjA)

3:26 cracks me up every time.
I wouldnt be a fan of Mark Sidebottom, but he certainly meets the criteria for loving the game.
This never fails to make me smile, from about 1 minute in, he really goes into overdrive

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/21410113 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/21410113)

Class.

Spielberg, Dickens and Dostoyevsky sitting down to dinner :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 26, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
You can't beat the local commentators. Contrast Ger Canning with Midlands Radio 3 Gerry Russell on that goal from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4)

https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak (https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak) Go to 2 mins
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 26, 2016, 04:04:17 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 26, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
You can't beat the local commentators. Contrast Ger Canning with Midlands Radio 3 Gerry Russell on that goal from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4)

https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak (https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak) Go to 2 mins
GRMA.  Class commentary
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 26, 2016, 05:33:26 PM
I didn't like it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 27, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 26, 2016, 05:33:26 PM
I didn't like it.

Was it the audio or the video you didn't like Jinxy?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 27, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
The whole damn thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 27, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 26, 2016, 05:33:26 PM
I didn't like it.

Was it the audio or the video you didn't like Jinxy?
the vulnerability at the back
the shame
Westmeath, FFS!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 27, 2016, 12:22:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 27, 2016, 11:17:41 AM
The whole damn thing.

Harsh. Give it another listen sure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 27, 2016, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 26, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
You can't beat the local commentators. Contrast Ger Canning with Midlands Radio 3 Gerry Russell on that goal from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4)

https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak (https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak) Go to 2 mins

Ah in fairness now, you can't really compare someone on a local station, with someone on the national broadcaster, who has to appear neutral all the time. I'm no fan of Canning, but the local lad has the freedom to go bat shit crazy when a goal is scored, that someone on RTE doesn't. They'll be accused of bias if they get too excited.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on May 27, 2016, 04:18:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy9guThsWU

There you go Jinxy, think of your happy place...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 27, 2016, 05:19:07 PM
Quote from: Beffs on May 27, 2016, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 26, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
You can't beat the local commentators. Contrast Ger Canning with Midlands Radio 3 Gerry Russell on that goal from last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgUW2WAfHM4)

https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak (https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/westmeath-break-the-streak) Go to 2 mins

Ah in fairness now, you can't really compare someone on a local station, with someone on the national broadcaster, who has to appear neutral all the time. I'm no fan of Canning, but the local lad has the freedom to go bat shit crazy when a goal is scored, that someone on RTE doesn't. They'll be accused of bias if they get too excited.

Go back to the point of the impression that if they weren't being paid to be there, they'd be there watching anyway. I don't think MOM or MOH were ever accused of bias.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 27, 2016, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 27, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 27, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 26, 2016, 05:33:26 PM
I didn't like it.

Was it the audio or the video you didn't like Jinxy?
the vulnerability at the back
the shame
Westmeath, FFS!
One of the best bits was, among the joy and hollering of WM getting the goal to go 4 points up deep into injury time, there was still the "...but it's not over yet", because of the hoors they were playing

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2016, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 27, 2016, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 27, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 27, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 26, 2016, 05:33:26 PM
I didn't like it.

Was it the audio or the video you didn't like Jinxy?
the vulnerability at the back
the shame
Westmeath, FFS!
One of the best bits was, among the joy and hollering of WM getting the goal to go 4 points up deep into injury time, there was still the "...but it's not over yet", because of the hoors they were playing

Are you joking me? It's been a long time since Meath had the they are never beaten tag. They now have the we never have a game won tag!  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2016, 08:36:55 AM
From a westmeath perspective what Hound said is true. Even when Westmeath should have beaten Meath in the past they couldn't get over the line. That All Ireland QF back in 2002 or 2003 was brutal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 28, 2016, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2016, 08:36:55 AM
From a westmeath perspective what Hound said is true. Even when Westmeath should have beaten Meath in the past they couldn't get over the line. That All Ireland QF back in 2002 or 2003 was brutal.

2001?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2016, 05:04:12 PM
Maybe. I thought it was later.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on May 28, 2016, 06:05:21 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-nobody-goes-on-to-the-sunday-game-with-an-agenda-34753474.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 29, 2016, 03:49:36 PM
RTE HD but with Ger Canning, so non-HD on BBC it is. That's how annoying Canning is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trentoneill15 on May 29, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
Those BBC GAA commentators are the worst in the english speaking sporting commentary world
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 29, 2016, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: trentoneill15 on May 29, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
Those BBC GAA commentators are the worst in the english speaking sporting commentary world

Canning is worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 29, 2016, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on May 28, 2016, 06:05:21 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-nobody-goes-on-to-the-sunday-game-with-an-agenda-34753474.html

You have to have huge sympathy for Plámás, having to work so hard! :)


I might arrive in Donnybrook at 11am, but I'll still be there 12 hours later. And, if I have two main gripes, they'd have to be the food and the travel. The RTE canteen is a holocaust on good dietary habits, so I tend to bring my own lunch. But that's never enough and, at some point, I'll end up horsing into a plate of stuff I shouldn't.

And the late night drive back down south isn't a ball of laughs either, knowing I'm due in class first thing the following morning.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 29, 2016, 04:43:35 PM
In fairness he's a better writer than almost all of the trained ones.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AQMP on May 29, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
Brolly spot on for once.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on May 29, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
Is what he is saying true? It sounds unlikely to me that all of it is true.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 29, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
Brolly spot on for once.

Lot of great stuff by Joe, club v county....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 29, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
Which bit, that Colm's Meath team were ugly?
That's a downright lie.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
Which bit, that Colm's Meath team were ugly?
That's a downright lie.

Club v country but that meath team was ugly

(http://www.hoganstand.com/Common/NewGallery/bradydempsey.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 29, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 29, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
Brolly spot on for once.

Lot of great stuff by Joe, club v county....
Totally agree wish they had continued discussion for an hour. It made have ultimately showed up county boards and provincials councils and the GPA for what they all are, self serving.
Reduce season by a month to six weeks would be a simple solution, yet two of counties that voted against reducing it by two weeks were Galway (who never can finish their club championships )and Cork who have shit county teams and f all supporters at football level.
I hope they return to this discussion again in the near future

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 29, 2016, 05:53:20 PM
What did Brolly say?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 29, 2016, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 29, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 29, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
Brolly spot on for once.

Lot of great stuff by Joe, club v county....
Totally agree wish they had continued discussion for an hour. It made have ultimately showed up county boards and provincials councils and the GPA for what they all are, self serving.
Reduce season by a month to six weeks would be a simple solution, yet two of counties that voted against reducing it by two weeks were Galway (who never can finish their club championships )and Cork who have shit county teams and f all supporters at football level.
I hope they return to this discussion again in the near future

Joe as usual mixes a few good points with some absolute nonsense and some outright lies.
His personal attacks on McGeeney were way over the top. He goes on about the ethos of GAA and can't see the irony in his verbal assainasation of a fellow Gael.
Also blaming the GPA for lads not playing club football is ridiculous.

I know from a Dubs perspective, under Pillar our panel played almost no club league football. Gilroy announced on his appointment that he'd let players play club, yet he often played A v B games on days when there was a round of league fixtures on, so you had 35 lads missing league games. Gavin has brought in a much fairer structure, panel members are enouraged to play for their club although the first 15 probably still only play about 6 of the 15 league games. But all of that has absolutely nothing to do with the GPA and all to do with the power the county board (and thus the clubs who give the mandate to the county board) give the manager.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 29, 2016, 06:20:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 29, 2016, 05:53:20 PM
What did Brolly say?

County football no fun, too much commitment a lot of players opting out because of this
County Players cannot play club football in a lot of counties
Gave example of Armagh and crossmaglen
Also how some counties voted down shortening season by only two weeks
Amount of money involved preparing a county team insane even Derry 250k
Well worth a watch
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on May 29, 2016, 06:55:52 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 29, 2016, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 29, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 29, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
Brolly spot on for once.

Lot of great stuff by Joe, club v county....
Totally agree wish they had continued discussion for an hour. It made have ultimately showed up county boards and provincials councils and the GPA for what they all are, self serving.
Reduce season by a month to six weeks would be a simple solution, yet two of counties that voted against reducing it by two weeks were Galway (who never can finish their club championships )and Cork who have shit county teams and f all supporters at football level.
I hope they return to this discussion again in the near future

Joe as usual mixes a few good points with some absolute nonsense and some outright lies.
His personal attacks on McGeeney were way over the top. He goes on about the ethos of GAA and can't see the irony in his verbal assainasation of a fellow Gael.
Also blaming the GPA for lads not playing club football is ridiculous.

I know from a Dubs perspective, under Pillar our panel played almost no club league football. Gilroy announced on his appointment that he'd let players play club, yet he often played A v B games on days when there was a round of league fixtures on, so you had 35 lads missing league games. Gavin has brought in a much fairer structure, panel members are enouraged to play for their club although the first 15 probably still only play about 6 of the 15 league games. But all of that has absolutely nothing to do with the GPA and all to do with the power the county board (and thus the clubs who give the mandate to the county board) give the manager.

Disagree it has everything to do with the GPA. The GPA have never lifted a finger to try to promote a better club v county structure. They never once made any representations to the GAA about the insane pressures of trying to play inter county football and working. They keep talking about compensation, grants - "the professional" structure - ie pay us. They could have nipped this in the bud a long time ago and helped bring about some changes to the insane training regimes in operation.

Very extraneous members of the Dublin panel are only allowed play league football. Shane Carthy for example wasn't allowed tog out for Vincents yesterday in the league he has very little chance of making the bench next week. All for A v B games.

Anyone from 1-25 won't be playing anymore then about 4/5 league games per season. So I think attempts to defend Gavin on this are futile. Once the Dubs hit championship mode- even the fringe players can't play with their clubs. Brolly is dead right on that one

As regards Mc Geeney- It hasn't happened for him as a manager and it's not going to. Needs to take a lengthy break from the game in my view and enjoy the other side of life and maybe come back to it at a later date
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 29, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
The GPA's approach is akin to a doctor refusing to advocate vaccination to prevent a disease and instead advocating for better medicines to treat that disease.
All of their efforts go into creating better 'supports' for players to allow them to cope with the ridiculous demands, instead of looking at ways to reduce the ridiculous demands.
The reasons for this are pretty obvious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on May 29, 2016, 07:48:53 PM
But we knew all this! Many would ask why are they doing multi million euro commercial deals on license by the gaa, the same gaa whose membership Give voluntary lifelong loyalty to the ideals of club and community and have been responsible for the provision of over a billions worth of infrastructure built and by their ongoin  attendance paid for the upkeep of their stadiums and infrastructure. The gpa brought in programmes - good yes ...Help  Programmes that are being done often voluntarily within clubs and community organisations in conjunction with healthcare professionals in every town in Ireland this lifetime. And we give them an office in our stadium. Can someone tell me why this is accommodated in a smart society.  It's time to audit the GAA. There are obviously admin areas and some areas of specialist coaching  of the GAA where volunteerism doesn't work but it's time to make the whole operation leaner and remove the parasitic spectre of professionalism for ever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 29, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 29, 2016, 06:55:52 PM
As regards Mc Geeney- It hasn't happened for him as a manager and it's not going to. Needs to take a lengthy break from the game in my view and enjoy the other side of life and maybe come back to it at a later date

He should go back to doing what he does best - strength and conditioning, with maybe a bit of motivational psychology mixed in. That is what he good at, getting lads in peak physical condition and ready to run through walls for each other. He clearly doesn't have what it takes in the tactics and sideline decision making department. At this stage of his career, it doesn't look like he will ever develop it on his own.

He could do with a good few years as the number two of someone like a Jim McGuinness and learn his craft that way. Or take up a role like Bryan Cullen in Dublin, where he overseas the entire counties S&C programs, but doesn't have any responsibility for what goes on out on the pitch during games.

I wonder would his ego would be satisfied with reduced roles like those?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: redzone on May 29, 2016, 09:08:27 PM
Lol he's one of the most humble men about. He'd do what ever the right thing is far Armagh football that's for sure. The year isn't over yet.How do u know he's a big ego?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Catch and Kick on May 30, 2016, 12:09:56 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
The GPA's approach is akin to a doctor refusing to advocate vaccination to prevent a disease and instead advocating for better medicines to treat that disease.
All of their efforts go into creating better 'supports' for players to allow them to cope with the ridiculous demands, instead of looking at ways to reduce the ridiculous demands.
The reasons for this are pretty obvious.
Spot on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Give and Go on May 30, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
To stay on topic; the Sunday Game has consistently missed every kick out in every game as they pan to spectator scenes or to view the subs bench or the Manager on the sideline. We are missing a keep part of the game and we miss the tactical use of kick outs, good and bad, by teams.
It's so annoying to see the camera pause on a spectator for 2/3 seconds while the game is ongoing.
It is supposed to cover the game not the spectators.
Not surprised the GAA hasn't taken this up in the past few year as they are buying into the commerciality of the games. More spectator faces more appeal to day trippers...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 30, 2016, 12:21:14 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on May 30, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
To stay on topic; the Sunday Game has consistently missed every kick out in every game as they pan to spectator scenes or to view the subs bench or the Manager on the sideline. We are missing a keep part of the game and we miss the tactical use of kick outs, good and bad, by teams.
It's so annoying to see the camera pause on a spectator for 2/3 seconds while the game is ongoing.
It is supposed to cover the game not the spectators.
Not surprised the GAA hasn't taken this up in the past few year as they are buying into the commerciality of the games. More spectator faces more appeal to day trippers...

In fairness, the BBC cameramen seem more prone to this than RTÉ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 30, 2016, 02:00:45 AM
Quote from: Give and Go on May 30, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
To stay on topic; the Sunday Game has consistently missed every kick out in every game as they pan to spectator scenes or to view the subs bench or the Manager on the sideline. We are missing a keep part of the game and we miss the tactical use of kick outs, good and bad, by teams.
It's so annoying to see the camera pause on a spectator for 2/3 seconds while the game is ongoing.
It is supposed to cover the game not the spectators.
Not surprised the GAA hasn't taken this up in the past few year as they are buying into the commerciality of the games. More spectator faces more appeal to day trippers...

One of the perks of being a cameraman is being able to check out the good looking weemin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 30, 2016, 07:48:29 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
The GPA's approach is akin to a doctor refusing to advocate vaccination to prevent a disease and instead advocating for better medicines to treat that disease.
All of their efforts go into creating better 'supports' for players to allow them to cope with the ridiculous demands, instead of looking at ways to reduce the ridiculous demands.
The reasons for this are pretty obvious.
That's right.
Everyone should be made train less, so more counties get to Meath's level of fitness and S&C.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 30, 2016, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 28, 2016, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2016, 08:36:55 AM
From a westmeath perspective what Hound said is true. Even when Westmeath should have beaten Meath in the past they couldn't get over the line. That All Ireland QF back in 2002 or 2003 was brutal.

2001?

Sure was 2001 and will you leave that buried deep in the subconscious where it belongs.

Brolly can step over the line at times but on yesterday's form there's no one to rival him for entertainment value. Comments regarding McGeeney were close to the bone but weren't without foundation. Now if he would bring a bit more analysis in to the discussion...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 30, 2016, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: Hound on May 30, 2016, 07:48:29 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
The GPA's approach is akin to a doctor refusing to advocate vaccination to prevent a disease and instead advocating for better medicines to treat that disease.
All of their efforts go into creating better 'supports' for players to allow them to cope with the ridiculous demands, instead of looking at ways to reduce the ridiculous demands.
The reasons for this are pretty obvious.
That's right.
Everyone should be made train less, so more counties get to Meath's level of fitness and S&C.

Exactly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 30, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Camera work of yesterdays Cavan v Armagh match was brutal. Showing faces in the crowd whilst play was going on, zooming in on the wrong players after scores and showing replays while the action was continuing live.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on May 30, 2016, 10:20:43 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 30, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Camera work of yesterdays Cavan v Armagh match was brutal. Showing faces in the crowd whilst play was going on, zooming in on the wrong players after scores and showing replays while the action was continuing live.
The fact that, in the modern game, they feel it unimportant to show the kick-outs being taken is an insult to the viewers. Throw on the replays or the lads in the crowd until someone has the ball in their hands in the middle of the field.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: naka on May 30, 2016, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 30, 2016, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 28, 2016, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2016, 08:36:55 AM
From a westmeath perspective what Hound said is true. Even when Westmeath should have beaten Meath in the past they couldn't get over the line. That All Ireland QF back in 2002 or 2003 was brutal.

2001?

Sure was 2001 and will you leave that buried deep in the subconscious where it belongs.

Brolly can step over the line at times but on yesterday's form there's no one to rival him for entertainment value. Comments regarding McGeeney were close to the bone but weren't without foundation. Now if he would bring a bit more analysis in to the discussion...


Brolly was vindictive yesterday
That's the third or fourth time he has taken cheap shots at mc geeney
Now I don't know if mc geeney is the real deal as a manager or not but looking at yesterday
Murnin was injured as was dyas
Harold quit all football even club football to try and build a business
Rafferty got the chance of a lifetime with first derivatives to go to Singapore and Hong Kong on big bucks
Jamie is Jamie
So he isn't really operating with a full deck of cards
Brolly talked about cross
I know he approached some of the younger guys who wanted to stabilise themselves in the cross team before moving on
So who else was there to take
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 30, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: naka on May 30, 2016, 10:34:41 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on May 30, 2016, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 28, 2016, 09:14:53 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 28, 2016, 08:36:55 AM
From a westmeath perspective what Hound said is true. Even when Westmeath should have beaten Meath in the past they couldn't get over the line. That All Ireland QF back in 2002 or 2003 was brutal.

2001?

Sure was 2001 and will you leave that buried deep in the subconscious where it belongs.

Brolly can step over the line at times but on yesterday's form there's no one to rival him for entertainment value. Comments regarding McGeeney were close to the bone but weren't without foundation. Now if he would bring a bit more analysis in to the discussion...


Brolly was vindictive yesterday
That's the third or fourth time he has taken cheap shots at mc geeney
Now I don't know if mc geeney is the real deal as a manager or not but looking at yesterday
Murnin was injured as was dyas
Harold quit all football even club football to try and build a business
Rafferty got the chance of a lifetime with first derivatives to go to Singapore and Hong Kong on big bucks
Jamie is Jamie
So he isn't really operating with a full deck of cards
Brolly talked about cross
I know he approached some of the younger guys who wanted to stabilise themselves in the cross team before moving on
So who else was there to take

To answer your question, I believe that very few others are there that aren't playing county football who would add to and improve the starting XV. So I don't think that there are an abundance of players out there who are going to improve the team and it is a fallacy to suggest that Crossmaglen for example have a whole host of players who could make a significant difference at county level. They have some good promising young players such as Rushe and O'Neill who may or may not develop into county players but outside of that they have very few individual stand out players capable of making the step up.

Having said all that, you have named 5 or 6 players who aren't available to McGeeney this year. Those players by and large were available to us last season and results and performances were almost identical so I wouldn't be going out of my way to make excuses about injuries and absences. Performances have been poor and there has been no signs of us developing an effective attacking game plan.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on May 30, 2016, 11:22:22 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 30, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Camera work of yesterdays Cavan v Armagh match was brutal. Showing faces in the crowd whilst play was going on, zooming in on the wrong players after scores and showing replays while the action was continuing live.

This is standard BBC NI camerawork.

They have been doing this for years.

The GAA should make a formal complaint imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
Tommy Carr and Ger Canning. Jesus wept.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 05, 2016, 02:00:35 PM
Jesus, on the wireless,  it sounds like a crowd of castrated cats are singing the anthem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 05, 2016, 02:10:26 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
Tommy Carr and Ger Canning. Jesus wept.

Its actually Tom
Strongly built fellow
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
"He's delighted with himself."
;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 05, 2016, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
"He's delighted with himself."
;D ;D

Yeah f**k me talk about thick
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:19:15 PM
McManus mustn't be fit.
I think that's the first time he touched the ball.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 05, 2016, 02:20:23 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 05, 2016, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:12:48 PM
"He's delighted with himself."
;D ;D

Yeah f**k me talk about thick
Impetuous seem to be the word of the day
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
You'd almost miss Martin Carney.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
You'd almost miss Martin Carney.
:D Says it all. :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 05, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:23:51 PM
You'd almost miss Martin Carney.
:D Says it all. :-[
Very much so
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:27:29 PM
 :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 05, 2016, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
Very much so.

It must be said !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 05, 2016, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: Beffs on June 05, 2016, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 05, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
Very much so.

It must be said !

Make that Dr. Tom
What a bullshi** artist
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 05, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
Hey Ziggy or other Mods.........!

How about we set up a few of the lads here with the 'fan mikes' when their own counties are playing, so we can hear some of their pearls of wisdom????

I would love to hear, for example..........

Armagh - Tony Fearon with BC1
Tyrone - O'Neill & Il Bomber Destro
Dublin - Indiana & Heffo
Roscommon - Syferus and Rossfan
Mayo - mayo.mick & rosnarun
Kildare - Donnellys Hollow & Dinny Breen

Any others????
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 03:23:04 PM
Galway - seafoid and Duine Eile. Poor DE would hardly get a look in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on June 05, 2016, 03:42:31 PM
Thank God Lyster cut Brolly off from his stupid rant.Now can Rte do the right thing and not inflict Brolly on us any more
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 05, 2016, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: maigheo on June 05, 2016, 03:42:31 PM
Thank God Lyster cut Brolly off from his stupid rant.Now can Rte do the right thing and not inflict Brolly on us any more
I quickly switched over the BBC coverage once I seen Brolly on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 04:03:49 PM
"Fly like a butterfly". Fúck right off, Marty. More Brolly please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2016, 04:04:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 03:23:04 PM
Galway - seafoid and Duine Eile. Poor DE would hardly get a look in.
Surely Mouview would be better
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 05, 2016, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 04:03:49 PM
"Fly like a butterfly". Fúck right off, Marty. More Brolly please.

does he have any idea how annoying he is, just put on mute
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 05, 2016, 06:13:47 PM
Why is a Clare man commentating on a Clare game. Ridiculous
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2016, 09:45:11 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 05, 2016, 06:13:47 PM
Why is a Clare man commentating on a Clare game. Ridiculous

Darragh Moloney only gets the Dublin gigs...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bensars on June 05, 2016, 10:30:18 PM
Armagh have taken the bait.

First rule of PR, do not reply and further bring to the fore the negative points raised previously, whether right or wrong.

Brolly would be sitting back laughing his balls off
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 05, 2016, 10:32:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on June 05, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
Hey Ziggy or other Mods.........!

How about we set up a few of the lads here with the 'fan mikes' when their own counties are playing, so we can hear some of their pearls of wisdom????

I would love to hear, for example..........

Armagh - Tony Fearon with BC1
Tyrone - O'Neill & Il Bomber Destro
Dublin - Indiana & Heffo
Roscommon - Syferus and Rossfan
Mayo - mayo.mick & rosnarun
Kildare - Donnellys Hollow & Dinny Breen

Any others????

I like it...could be a runner...more than Fearon ever was!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 05, 2016, 10:35:11 PM
Quote from: Bensars on June 05, 2016, 10:30:18 PM
Armagh have taken the bait.

First rule of PR, do not reply and further bring to the fore the negative points raised previously, whether right or wrong.

Brolly would be sitting back laughing his balls off
Yes you ignore a troll not feed it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 05, 2016, 10:43:20 PM
Christ, he sounded like the PM, defending one of his Ministers, who just got caught with a couple of hookers and an ounce of blow, in a dodgy hotel in Blackpool. "I have every confidence...." Lol.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 05, 2016, 11:13:29 PM
Missed the program, what happened?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 05, 2016, 11:14:39 PM
Chairman of the Armagh Co Board gave a speech about how supportive they are of McGeeney.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on June 05, 2016, 11:22:55 PM
Quote from: Beffs on June 05, 2016, 11:14:39 PM
Chairman of the Armagh Co Board gave a speech about how supportive they are of McGeeney.

  The dreaded vote of confidence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on June 05, 2016, 11:24:55 PM
Embarrassing is how I'd describe Armagh's response to Brolly's criticism.  There was no need to respond at all, and if a response was necessary, it should have been on the field and nowhere else.

No foreign training camp, no weekend away, an embarrassing level of conversation from any county board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 05, 2016, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Bensars on June 05, 2016, 10:30:18 PM
Armagh have taken the bait.

First rule of PR, do not reply and further bring to the fore the negative points raised previously, whether right or wrong.

Brolly would be sitting back laughing his balls off

Unbelievable that they fell for it. Brolly goaded them into this....all fuel for the Joe Show. He does this every year in June. RTE's dream ticket.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 05, 2016, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Bensars on June 05, 2016, 10:30:18 PM
Armagh have taken the bait.

First rule of PR, do not reply and further bring to the fore the negative points raised previously, whether right or wrong.

Brolly would be sitting back laughing his balls off

Unbelievable that they fell for it. Brolly goaded them into this....all fuel for the Joe Show. He does this every year in June. RTE's dream ticket.

Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 05, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
In fairness to what?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 05, 2016, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).

Nah, yous are 'absolutely rotten'.  ;D

http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-sean-cavanagh-tackle-attack-1021396-Aug2013/ (http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-sean-cavanagh-tackle-attack-1021396-Aug2013/)

.......Brolly continued, "I see Mickey Harte smiling and jumping up and down at the end like they achieved. I'll tell you what, they achieved something absolutely rotten.".......

(http://c3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/08/brolly-anger-390x285.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).

When your best response is a bus that's making us money you know you're onto a losing retort.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).

When your best response is a bus that's making us money you know you're onto a losing retort.

Back up your venom, or is our absence on the airwaves enough grist for your mealy-mouthed mill?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 06, 2016, 12:13:29 AM
Brolly's response on Twitter.

Joe Brolly ‏@JoeBrolly1993 16 minutes ago

In fairness, Ger Canning cross examined him to within an inch of his life.


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:24:09 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 05, 2016, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).

Nah, yous are 'absolutely rotten'.  ;D

http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-sean-cavanagh-tackle-attack-1021396-Aug2013/ (http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-sean-cavanagh-tackle-attack-1021396-Aug2013/)

.......Brolly continued, "I see Mickey Harte smiling and jumping up and down at the end like they achieved. I'll tell you what, they achieved something absolutely rotten.".......

(http://c3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/08/brolly-anger-390x285.jpg)

When you cite Brolly in your defence, you have no defence, no sir, no defence at all! :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 12:27:45 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).

When your best response is a bus that's making us money you know you're onto a losing retort.

Back up your venom, or is our absence on the airwaves enough grist for your mealy-mouthed mill?

What a prickly fella you are.  You've already made more ructions this year than most of the others combined so I wouldn't be laughing at Armagh for a pr mishap if I was in your shoes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:31:05 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 12:27:45 AM
What a prickly fella you are.  You've already made more ructions this year than most of the others combined so I wouldn't be laughing at Armagh for a pr mishap if I was in your shoes.

Get over your Ros U21 trimming (fadó, fadó), and leave us out of your nasty little sideswipes please, unless you want to back your mean-minded meanderings up with actual evidence; of which, there's a very conspicuous absence of thus far.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 06, 2016, 12:34:47 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:24:09 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 05, 2016, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 05, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
Tyrone the worst for shooting themselves in the foot on the PR front in fairness.

Yeah, we love playing pool naked, and driving around our province in a big, bright and bold bus (but nowhere else).

Nah, yous are 'absolutely rotten'.  ;D

http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-sean-cavanagh-tackle-attack-1021396-Aug2013/ (http://www.the42.ie/joe-brolly-sean-cavanagh-tackle-attack-1021396-Aug2013/)

.......Brolly continued, "I see Mickey Harte smiling and jumping up and down at the end like they achieved. I'll tell you what, they achieved something absolutely rotten.".......

(http://c3.thejournal.ie/media/2013/08/brolly-anger-390x285.jpg)

When you cite Brolly in your defence, you have no defence, no sir, no defence at all! :)

Yes, in fairness Brolly was no defender.  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 06, 2016, 12:39:34 AM
Houl on, houl on!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:31:05 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 12:27:45 AM
What a prickly fella you are.  You've already made more ructions this year than most of the others combined so I wouldn't be laughing at Armagh for a pr mishap if I was in your shoes.

Get over your Ros U21 trimming (fadó, fadó), and leave us out of your nasty little sideswipes please, unless you want to back your mean-minded meanderings up with actual evidence; of which, there's a very conspicuous absence of thus far.

As if you missed it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 02:41:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:31:05 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 12:27:45 AM
What a prickly fella you are.  You've already made more ructions this year than most of the others combined so I wouldn't be laughing at Armagh for a pr mishap if I was in your shoes.

Get over your Ros U21 trimming (fadó, fadó), and leave us out of your nasty little sideswipes please, unless you want to back your mean-minded meanderings up with actual evidence; of which, there's a very conspicuous absence of thus far.

As if you missed it.

Drop your very tiresome anti-Tír Eoghain fixation buachaill.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 03:11:30 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 02:41:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:31:05 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 12:27:45 AM
What a prickly fella you are.  You've already made more ructions this year than most of the others combined so I wouldn't be laughing at Armagh for a pr mishap if I was in your shoes.

Get over your Ros U21 trimming (fadó, fadó), and leave us out of your nasty little sideswipes please, unless you want to back your mean-minded meanderings up with actual evidence; of which, there's a very conspicuous absence of thus far.

As if you missed it.

Drop your very tiresome anti-Tír Eoghain fixation buachaill.

Pot and kettle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on June 06, 2016, 07:09:28 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 02:41:28 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 02:39:36 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 12:31:05 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 12:27:45 AM
What a prickly fella you are.  You've already made more ructions this year than most of the others combined so I wouldn't be laughing at Armagh for a pr mishap if I was in your shoes.

Get over your Ros U21 trimming (fadó, fadó), and leave us out of your nasty little sideswipes please, unless you want to back your mean-minded meanderings up with actual evidence; of which, there's a very conspicuous absence of thus far.

As if you missed it.

Drop your very tiresome anti-Tír Eoghain fixation buachaill.

The jealousy and begrudgery oozes out of him in the venom he spouts.

He's pinned the last 5 years of his life that Roscommon would be in a position to challenge for glory, the reality of the situation is sinking in now. The brash, boastful claims he was making, the arrogant swipes at their mid-tier peers, the goading about usurping the flag bearers at that time - are now all fading. The realization about the village idiot he made out of himself during this period is now manifesting itself as a poisonous small man syndrome trying to devalue anything else the other teams do.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 06, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(

Fair point.

But while they are at it, maybe Syferus can be reminded that 'remember that thing Tyrone done' isn't a valid argument in every single topic on the board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 06, 2016, 03:56:49 PM
Another thread swamped by an outbreak of prickly paranoia from Tyronies.
Sy is a harmless lad who couldn't even wind up a toy tractor but Tyronies manage to self detonate their indignation levels with a few sticks of semtex.

Once upon a time Tyronies were  made of tougher stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 06, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(

Fair point.

But while they are at it, maybe Syferus can be reminded that 'remember that thing Tyrone done' isn't a valid argument in every single topic on the board.

It's a case of the blackest most soot covered man in Ireland calling a kettle black when a Tyrone lad throws a few bombs at Armagh for being poor at pr. Tyrone have continually walked themselves into controversy after controversy - that's just the fact of the matter even if you want to place the blame on a media conspiracy. Pointing that out is hardly out of bounds and if it is we've some seriously sensitive souls here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2016, 04:20:15 PM
I'm looking forward to the release of the fixtures for Division 1 next year already. Ros v Tyrone should be good fun on here anyways. :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: supersarsfields on June 06, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 06, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(

Fair point.

But while they are at it, maybe Syferus can be reminded that 'remember that thing Tyrone done' isn't a valid argument in every single topic on the board.

It's a case of the blackest most soot covered man in Ireland calling a kettle black when a Tyrone lad throws a few bombs at Armagh for being poor at pr. Tyrone have continually walked themselves into controversy after controversy - that's just the fact of the matter even if you want to place the blame on a media conspiracy. Pointing that out is hardly out of bounds and if it is we've some seriously sensitive souls here.

You have a very different interpretation of facts than most people...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on June 06, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 06, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(

Fair point.

But while they are at it, maybe Syferus can be reminded that 'remember that thing Tyrone done' isn't a valid argument in every single topic on the board.

It's a case of the blackest most soot covered man in Ireland calling a kettle black when a Tyrone lad throws a few bombs at Armagh for being poor at pr. Tyrone have continually walked themselves into controversy after controversy - that's just the fact of the matter even if you want to place the blame on a media conspiracy. Pointing that out is hardly out of bounds and if it is we've some seriously sensitive souls here.

You have a very different interpretation of facts than most people...

Pretty sure almost everyone outside of Tyrone would agree with me and not you, but go on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: supersarsfields on June 06, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on June 06, 2016, 04:31:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 06, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(

Fair point.

But while they are at it, maybe Syferus can be reminded that 'remember that thing Tyrone done' isn't a valid argument in every single topic on the board.

It's a case of the blackest most soot covered man in Ireland calling a kettle black when a Tyrone lad throws a few bombs at Armagh for being poor at pr. Tyrone have continually walked themselves into controversy after controversy - that's just the fact of the matter even if you want to place the blame on a media conspiracy. Pointing that out is hardly out of bounds and if it is we've some seriously sensitive souls here.

You have a very different interpretation of facts than most people...

Pretty sure almost everyone outside of Tyrone would agree with me and not you, but go on.

Of course. I'm sure that's one of your "facts" as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 05:16:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 06, 2016, 03:56:49 PM
Another thread swamped by an outbreak of prickly paranoia from Tyronies.
Sy is a harmless lad who couldn't even wind up a toy tractor but Tyronies manage to self detonate their indignation levels with a few sticks of semtex.

Once upon a time Tyronies were  made of tougher stuff.

When your lot actually win an All-Ireland you might then be a little more sensitised to gratuitous attacks from mean-spirited saddo nobodies, don't hold your breath though! :P :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on June 06, 2016, 06:08:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 06, 2016, 12:09:06 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 12:03:27 PM
Mods - can ye please remind the Bomber to abuse the post not the poster. >:(

Fair point.

But while they are at it, maybe Syferus can be reminded that 'remember that thing Tyrone done' isn't a valid argument in every single topic on the board.

It's a case of the blackest most soot covered man in Ireland calling a kettle black when a Tyrone lad throws a few bombs at Armagh for being poor at pr. Tyrone have continually walked themselves into controversy after controversy - that's just the fact of the matter even if you want to place the blame on a media conspiracy. Pointing that out is hardly out of bounds and if it is we've some seriously sensitive souls here.

The fact that we've been good and successful means we have been the target of much abuse from the free state media. There's rarely been too much made out of Tyrone when they lose a game. Success has everything to do with, along with the small-minded hypocrites like you who only have a problem with certain issues when they go against you.

Roscommon won't have to worry about that though, they'll be too busy filling up the laughing stock vacuum as they get humiliated in Championship in the face of their management and fans building themselves up as serious team.

Maybe when they set up this B Championship they are angling for you might have some realistic goals.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Stopped reading when I got to "free state media" ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Stopped reading when I got to "free state media" ::)

Live on in your bubble... when the sham State broadcaster RTPravda can't even acknowledge a damning critique of the government's shambles of a housing policy  (or distinct lack thereof) in this last week, nothing would embarrass them, as they prove time and time again. :(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2016, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 06, 2016, 07:34:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Stopped reading when I got to "free state media" ::)

Live on in your bubble... when the sham State broadcaster RTPravda can't even acknowledge a damning critique of the government's shambles of a housing policy  (or distinct lack thereof) in this last week, nothing would embarrass them, as they prove time and time again. :(

All true Gaels sledge. Or something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Ah here, 2 good derby games Westmeath/Offaly and Meath/Louth - combined winning margin of only 5 points and a broken nose, we get 3 mins of highlights...

I despair...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inexile on June 12, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Ah here, 2 good derby games Westmeath/Offaly and Meath/Louth - combined winning margin of only 5 points and a broken nose, we get 3 mins of highlights...

I despair...

Have to race through them for the hurling! Still I thought Dessie Dolan summed up Kildare very succinctly as "no great shakes". He's right unfortunately. From the little we were show. I thought Meath looked the better of the four teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2016, 10:40:57 PM
Des spoiled the Tipp result for me. I deliberately avoided results. Thanks Des!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: timmyot501 on June 12, 2016, 10:44:59 PM
"Biggest shock of the year" according to des as the show opens. Tipp beating cork for first time in 72 years and it just shows a few token scores. Ok they spoke to the manager on the blower but more highlights would be nice.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: inexile on June 12, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Ah here, 2 good derby games Westmeath/Offaly and Meath/Louth - combined winning margin of only 5 points and a broken nose, we get 3 mins of highlights...

I despair...

Have to race through them for the hurling! Still I thought Dessie Dolan summed up Kildare very succinctly as "no great shakes". He's right unfortunately. From the little we were show. I thought Meath looked the better of the four teams.

Gave me a wry smile, very true but Westmeath have just been relegated to Division 4 so the two bald men fighting over an analogy would have been more appropriate. Both teams will be quite defensive so with maybe 6k from both counties in CP expect another horror show whereas if if it was played in O'Connor park you'd probably get 8k and a proper intense championship game...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 12, 2016, 10:59:33 PM
Sunday Game time allotted to games goes as follows;

Games showed Live on TV earlier get extended Highlights, in case you missed any of the stuff when you seen it live.

Games not shown live get token highlights, sure that's all you need to see. Sure they were not covered live in the first place.

6 football games get an Hour Coverage.
1 Hurling game gets half an Hour Coverage.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 12, 2016, 11:09:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2016, 10:59:33 PM
Sunday Game time allotted to games goes as follows;

Games showed Live on TV earlier get extended Highlights, in case you missed any of the stuff when you seen it live.

Games not shown live get token highlights, sure that's all you need to see. Sure they were not covered live in the first place.

6 football games get an Hour Coverage.
1 Hurling game gets half an Hour Coverage.
All Ireland Hurling champions in action, to be fair
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 12, 2016, 11:12:19 PM
Either make it longer or show less of the 'live' games.
I saw enough of the Roscommon full back dominating that Hughes lad already today, thank you very much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inexile on June 12, 2016, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: inexile on June 12, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Ah here, 2 good derby games Westmeath/Offaly and Meath/Louth - combined winning margin of only 5 points and a broken nose, we get 3 mins of highlights...

I despair...

Have to race through them for the hurling! Still I thought Dessie Dolan summed up Kildare very succinctly as "no great shakes". He's right unfortunately. From the little we were show. I thought Meath looked the better of the four teams.

Gave me a wry smile, very true but Westmeath have just been relegated to Division 4 so the two bald men fighting over an analogy would have been more appropriate. Both teams will be quite defensive so with maybe 6k from both counties in CP expect another horror show whereas if if it was played in O'Connor park you'd probably get 8k and a proper intense championship game...

Wonder what kind of numbers Meath & Dublin will bring? Will there be 40,000 there?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on June 13, 2016, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: timmyot501 on June 12, 2016, 10:44:59 PM
"Biggest shock of the year" according to des as the show opens. Tipp beating cork for first time in 72 years and it just shows a few token scores. Ok they spoke to the manager on the blower but more highlights would be nice.

The Sunday Game could learn a lot from Match of the Day. They never give away the result before they show the footage and they never have the commentator commentating in
the past tense. This is 1930's style reporting and it kills any suspense or interest you may have in the game.

They have cameras there anyway. Why is the commentator in the past tense? Even a local commentator from one of the radio stations added tot the footage would be better than the
old sterile past tense commentating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 13, 2016, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: inexile on June 12, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Ah here, 2 good derby games Westmeath/Offaly and Meath/Louth - combined winning margin of only 5 points and a broken nose, we get 3 mins of highlights...

I despair...

Have to race through them for the hurling! Still I thought Dessie Dolan summed up Kildare very succinctly as "no great shakes". He's right unfortunately. From the little we were show. I thought Meath looked the better of the four teams.

Gave me a wry smile, very true but Westmeath have just been relegated to Division 4 so the two bald men fighting over an analogy would have been more appropriate. Both teams will be quite defensive so with maybe 6k from both counties in CP expect another horror show whereas if if it was played in O'Connor park you'd probably get 8k and a proper intense championship game...

Get the petition going Dinny
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 13, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
Hey Croí, does that count as 'a right rattle'? :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 13, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
It surely fecking does, more than happy to eat some humbe pie on that one, well done, great to see. Would have been nice to have seen more of the fecking highlights.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 13, 2016, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 13, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
It surely fecking does, more than happy to eat some humbe pie on that one, well done, great to see. Would have been nice to have seen more of the fecking highlights.

To be honest I feared the worst with all the lads missing. I knew they'd rattle Cork with a few more available, and I knew they'd give it a lash even at that, but I didn't see a win coming. Big challenge the next day now, but hopefully they'll burst a gut again.

Well done in Mullingar, sickened by that one. A real bittersweet day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2016, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: inexile on June 12, 2016, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: inexile on June 12, 2016, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Ah here, 2 good derby games Westmeath/Offaly and Meath/Louth - combined winning margin of only 5 points and a broken nose, we get 3 mins of highlights...

I despair...

Have to race through them for the hurling! Still I thought Dessie Dolan summed up Kildare very succinctly as "no great shakes". He's right unfortunately. From the little we were show. I thought Meath looked the better of the four teams.

Gave me a wry smile, very true but Westmeath have just been relegated to Division 4 so the two bald men fighting over an analogy would have been more appropriate. Both teams will be quite defensive so with maybe 6k from both counties in CP expect another horror show whereas if if it was played in O'Connor park you'd probably get 8k and a proper intense championship game...

Wonder what kind of numbers Meath & Dublin will bring? Will there be 40,000 there?

Meath in fairness have a solid support who despite them being a bit sh*t have stuck with them unlike the Kildare crew, so they'll bring 5k plus. The crowd all depends on the bandwagon, Dublin brought 15k to Kilkenny which would probably be there hardcore. So I'll say you will get minimum 30K and if the marketing goes well, it's a hard sell one game will be watching paint dry and the other a foregone conclusion, you're probably looking at 40-45k.  But 20k in Portlaoise and 8k in Tullamore mightn't make for two better games but certainly would make for two better occasions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 13, 2016, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 13, 2016, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on June 13, 2016, 10:40:20 AM
It surely fecking does, more than happy to eat some humbe pie on that one, well done, great to see. Would have been nice to have seen more of the fecking highlights.

To be honest I feared the worst with all the lads missing. I knew they'd rattle Cork with a few more available, and I knew they'd give it a lash even at that, but I didn't see a win coming. Big challenge the next day now, but hopefully they'll burst a gut again.

Well done in Mullingar, sickened by that one. A real bittersweet day.

Yeah, I didn't see them get within 5 what with all the bodies missing and what I saw in Mullingar in the league. Tomás O Sé was bang on with what he said about Cork last year, a shorter year than the recent short years in store for them. Writing them off completely for the Munster final, but if they keep it close they can regroup and make the quarters. Would get Tipp football in a good place to build on next year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 16, 2016, 02:42:37 AM
just got around to watching sunday game, God Dessie Dolan has sweet f all to offer in analysis, you could grab some ould boy off a barstool after a few pints and his analysis would be not different. Talk about stating the obvious with a absolute boatload of cliches.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 17, 2016, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: joemamas on June 16, 2016, 02:42:37 AM
just got around to watching sunday game, God Dessie Dolan has sweet f all to offer in analysis, you could grab some ould boy off a barstool after a few pints and his analysis would be not different. Talk about stating the obvious with a absolute boatload of cliches.

I'm convinced that's what RTE are looking for when they hire people for the Sunday Game, exceptions like Brolly are as a result of RTE fecking up their hiring system.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 19, 2016, 10:37:57 PM
Dessie Dolan must be auditioning for a role on sky. Laois v Armagh...enjoyable?? Who is he trying to fool?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on June 19, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 19, 2016, 10:37:57 PM
Dessie Dolan must be auditioning for a role on sky. Laois v Armagh...enjoyable?? Who is he trying to fool?
Would have to agree. The game was tense but totally lacking in quality

And then Jarlath goes off on one. If you are Tim Peake and just arrived back from outer space you might think that Jarlath was calm, tempered and realistic in his assessment of Armagh's position in GAA. But if you knew that not a single person actually expects to win an All Ireland or even Ulster (with this team) then you would wonder what the f**k he was going on about.

Jarlath is part of the crew that gave Geezer the 5 year contract.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Buckass on June 19, 2016, 11:04:53 PM
Jarlath smacks of a lad lining up the gaa presidential gig..terrible fob on the Louth 6 day turnaround...slow to criticise county boards who looked after club players & the gaa will have it sorted next year. Careful now...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 19, 2016, 11:24:53 PM
Quote from: Buckass on June 19, 2016, 11:04:53 PM
Jarlath smacks of a lad lining up the gaa presidential gig..terrible fob on the Louth 6 day turnaround...slow to criticise county boards who looked after club players & the gaa will have it sorted next year. Careful now...

Seriously like. He makes the Healy-Rae's look subtle.  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on June 19, 2016, 11:37:37 PM
The patronising attitude to Carlow, Wicklow, Lietrim and Waterford is great craic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 19, 2016, 11:44:24 PM
In the space of one programme Jarlath praised:

The Louth county board
The Meath county board
The Armagh county board (by being 100% behind geezer)
The county boards of weaker counties like Carlow, Leitrim etc
A referee for an outstanding performance
The GAA who will have sorted out the 6 day turnaround for next year

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 19, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up

This was driving me nuts during the live game.
The ball is in the opposition half by the time they're done with the replays.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 19, 2016, 11:49:12 PM
Burns was painful tonight.
Is he running for Uachtaràn or after Duffy's  job?
Did I hear him say Sligo won Connacht in 2010?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 19, 2016, 11:52:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up

This was driving me nuts during the live game.
The ball is in the opposition half by the time they're done with the replays.

If the criticism is based on Cavan Tyrone they get their coverage from BBC. And could loser of replay have six day turn around.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on June 19, 2016, 11:54:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2016, 11:49:12 PM
Burns was painful tonight.
Is he running for Uachtaràn or after Duffy's  job?
Did I hear him say Sligo won Connacht in 2010?
Yes I thought he said they won it in 2010

You could be right, suddenly he's back on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 19, 2016, 11:55:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up

This was driving me nuts during the live game.
The ball is in the opposition half by the time they're done with the replays.

This is what happens when BBC is in charge of the camera work. It is f**king ridiculous that one of the most important aspects of the game is being missed for replays and crowd shots.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 20, 2016, 12:09:05 AM
Comical Jarlath?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Give and Go on June 20, 2016, 06:58:07 AM
Afraid RTE do it all the time too....hurling and football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 20, 2016, 10:15:40 AM
Such BS from him around the fixtures as well, the Leinster Council had no problem bringing Kildare/Wexford forward a week, disrupting county and club plans to facilitate Corporate GAA and Bruce Springsteen. It was embarrassing watching him.  Neither Des had the balls to pull him up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 20, 2016, 10:19:24 AM
#Jarlath4Prez
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 20, 2016, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 20, 2016, 10:15:40 AM
Such BS from him around the fixtures as well, the Leinster Council had no problem bringing Kildare/Wexford forward a week, disrupting county and club plans to facilitate Corporate GAA and Bruce Springsteen. It was embarrassing watching him.  Neither Des had the balls to pull him up.
+1.
1 Leinster Qtr Final (B one at that) 21 May while 2 others ( 1 of them A) were played THREE WEEKS later.

Ah sure who cares about the Louth SF panel once we have a money spinning concert.
Sure th'oul games are only a side issue anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 20, 2016, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 19, 2016, 11:55:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up

This was driving me nuts during the live game.
The ball is in the opposition half by the time they're done with the replays.

This is what happens when BBC is in charge of the camera work. It is f**king ridiculous that one of the most important aspects of the game is being missed for replays and crowd shots.

This is standard camerawork for the BBC NI GAA games.

I think my favourite shot from the game was the random shot of the back of two lads heads on the sideline ( I think they were part of the Cavan backroom team ) while the game was actually going on.

I'd nearly be tempted to watch the game back again and see how much of the action they actually missed because they choose to show shots of the crowd, shots of the managers (especially Harte), footage of lads on the subs bench, footage of lads waiting to come on, replays of the action all while there was game was actually going on.

Even when they did show the action I thought the camerwork was of a poor quality - there were definitely a higher than normal amount of long shots which I'm was due to the fact that when they went for closer in shots the camera lost the ball on a couple of occasions.

The GAA should make an official complaint to BBC NI such is the poor standard imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 20, 2016, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 20, 2016, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 19, 2016, 11:55:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up

This was driving me nuts during the live game.
The ball is in the opposition half by the time they're done with the replays.

This is what happens when BBC is in charge of the camera work. It is f**king ridiculous that one of the most important aspects of the game is being missed for replays and crowd shots.

This is standard camerawork for the BBC NI GAA games.

I think my favourite shot from the game was the random shot of the back of two lads heads on the sideline ( I think they were part of the Cavan backroom team ) while the game was actually going on.

I'd nearly be tempted to watch the game back again and see how much of the action they actually missed because they choose to show shots of the crowd, shots of the managers (especially Harte), footage of lads on the subs bench, footage of lads waiting to come on, replays of the action all while there was game was actually going on.

Even when they did show the action I thought the camerwork was of a poor quality - there were definitely a higher than normal amount of long shots which I'm was due to the fact that when they went for closer in shots the camera lost the ball on a couple of occasions.

The GAA should make an official complaint to BBC NI such is the poor standard imo.

Yeah, I was wondering if they were having camera problems which meant they had to stick with one most of the time.
When the play was on the far side of the field it was like watching a load of blue and white ants running around.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 20, 2016, 12:41:00 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 20, 2016, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 19, 2016, 11:55:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 19, 2016, 11:45:31 PM
Quote from: Give and Go on June 19, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Does RTE Sport not understand that football and hurling restart with kick outs and not from the centre circle? Fecking crazy that we rarely see the kick outs being taken as we are shown replays ad nauseous with the game in full flow....
poor and uneven coverage of the qualifiers... Laois v Armagh was covered live yesterday and they serve up the bulk of the coverage of the qualifiers on that game; Carlow beat Wicklow but looking at the snippets you would think Wicklow own it...Leitrim and Waterford barely covered...
Analysis is lazy too.
Jar lath is definitely playing to the electorate.
The next round of the qualifiers is now going to be in chaos to allow 2 WEEKS for the replay in Ulster - yet Louth had only 6 days.... you couldn't make it up

This was driving me nuts during the live game.
The ball is in the opposition half by the time they're done with the replays.

This is what happens when BBC is in charge of the camera work. It is f**king ridiculous that one of the most important aspects of the game is being missed for replays and crowd shots.

This is standard camerawork for the BBC NI GAA games.

I think my favourite shot from the game was the random shot of the back of two lads heads on the sideline ( I think they were part of the Cavan backroom team ) while the game was actually going on.

I'd nearly be tempted to watch the game back again and see how much of the action they actually missed because they choose to show shots of the crowd, shots of the managers (especially Harte), footage of lads on the subs bench, footage of lads waiting to come on, replays of the action all while there was game was actually going on.

Even when they did show the action I thought the camerwork was of a poor quality - there were definitely a higher than normal amount of long shots which I'm was due to the fact that when they went for closer in shots the camera lost the ball on a couple of occasions.

The GAA should make an official complaint to BBC NI such is the poor standard imo.

I would say they missed closed to half of all kick outs, there were a few occasions when the ball was at the far end of the pitch by the time they cut back to the live action.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

But that was nothing compared to last Saturday. I was in a house where they were watching Ireland v. Belgium on BBC and yer man Shearer announced at half time that there were "a few chinks in the Belgian defence". Is that the granny rule and how come nobody else knew that? And weren't there a couple of lads sacked off Sky lately for using language like that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 20, 2016, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

Our forwards walked all over them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 20, 2016, 04:35:18 PM
Very good Jinxy
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 20, 2016, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!


When an area is pedestrianised they usually put in those bollards that stop any vehicles from occupying that space, which meant that the Louth defence were unable to park the defensive bus.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 22, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

But that was nothing compared to last Saturday. I was in a house where they were watching Ireland v. Belgium on BBC and yer man Shearer announced at half time that there were "a few chinks in the Belgian defence". Is that the granny rule and how come nobody else knew that? And weren't there a couple of lads sacked off Sky lately for using language like that?

When they were finished with Shane Long he looked like a battered chicken.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 22, 2016, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 22, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

But that was nothing compared to last Saturday. I was in a house where they were watching Ireland v. Belgium on BBC and yer man Shearer announced at half time that there were "a few chinks in the Belgian defence". Is that the granny rule and how come nobody else knew that? And weren't there a couple of lads sacked off Sky lately for using language like that?

When they were finished with Shane Long he looked like a battered chicken.

That's just wong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 22, 2016, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 22, 2016, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 22, 2016, 09:57:39 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

But that was nothing compared to last Saturday. I was in a house where they were watching Ireland v. Belgium on BBC and yer man Shearer announced at half time that there were "a few chinks in the Belgian defence". Is that the granny rule and how come nobody else knew that? And weren't there a couple of lads sacked off Sky lately for using language like that?

When they were finished with Shane Long he looked like a battered chicken.

That's just wong.

We're wonton lots of goals now.

Their defence is pretty (chow) mein though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 22, 2016, 10:16:01 AM
Yeah, no point going all out, we have to use our noodles.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 22, 2016, 02:59:28 PM
I just can't see us sticking a goal past-a the Italian defence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on June 26, 2016, 10:43:59 PM
Tommy Carr has no clue what the role and purpose of the black card is. He proves this time and time again and yet on tv and radio he is brought in by RTE to be a pundit on the game.

Today he said the black card serves no purpose for the ga,e. Truth is Tommy Carr serves no purpose for game. Sorry Tommy you are probably a very nice man and all that but you a fecking awful pundit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on June 26, 2016, 10:52:46 PM
I agree with you but in fairness his point was that a black card is no punishment in the last few minutes of a game as players pull men down to stop a score. If the punishment was a 13m free then that would be a real deterrent
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 26, 2016, 11:10:25 PM
For Kildare at the end there was a clear goal scoring opportunity stopped by the referee delaying the game to issue a black card. That would be frustrating in most circumstances but in this instance if Kildare managed to steal a win they would suffer a humiliation of epic proportions against Dublin. Moderately strong humiliation against Westmeath is ok in comparison.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on June 26, 2016, 11:27:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 26, 2016, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: ck on June 26, 2016, 10:52:46 PM
I agree with you but in fairness his point was that a black card is no punishment in the last few minutes of a game as players pull men down to stop a score. If the punishment was a 13m free then that would be a real deterrent
The free & black card relating to that quote was a handy one on the 21 right in front of the posts.
Before the black card, it would have just been a free.

Would it not have been a tick?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on June 27, 2016, 01:33:41 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

But that was nothing compared to last Saturday. I was in a house where they were watching Ireland v. Belgium on BBC and yer man Shearer announced at half time that there were "a few chinks in the Belgian defence". Is that the granny rule and how come nobody else knew that? And weren't there a couple of lads sacked off Sky lately for using language like that?

You're acting the maggot with the chink thing Hardy surely?
A chink is a weakness in defensive armour. A small but possibly fatal weakness. Probably goes back to days of medieval warfare and chainmail and possibly a French origin - like a lot of descriptive words do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 27, 2016, 08:47:14 AM
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: five points on June 27, 2016, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 26, 2016, 10:43:59 PM
Tommy Carr has no clue what the role and purpose of the black card is. He proves this time and time again and yet on tv and radio he is brought in by RTE to be a pundit on the game.

Today he said the black card serves no purpose for the ga,e. Truth is Tommy Carr serves no purpose for game. Sorry Tommy you are probably a very nice man and all that but you a fecking awful pundit

Tommy's point is surely that the black card does nothing to eliminate or curb the most cynical of fouls, typically one intended to prevent a certain score or to block an opposing team's progress in the dying minutes of a tight game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on June 27, 2016, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: five points on June 27, 2016, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 26, 2016, 10:43:59 PM
Tommy Carr has no clue what the role and purpose of the black card is. He proves this time and time again and yet on tv and radio he is brought in by RTE to be a pundit on the game.

Today he said the black card serves no purpose for the ga,e. Truth is Tommy Carr serves no purpose for game. Sorry Tommy you are probably a very nice man and all that but you a fecking awful pundit

Tommy's point is surely that the black card does nothing to eliminate or curb the most cynical of fouls, typically one intended to prevent a certain score or to block an opposing team's progress in the dying minutes of a tight game.
No doubt that was his point but what was his point last week when a push to the chest near the side line was "probably a black card"?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on June 27, 2016, 09:49:33 AM
Quote from: moysider on June 27, 2016, 01:33:41 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 20, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
On LMFM last Sunday, Stefan White in his half time analysis said the Louth defence was pedestrianised!

But that was nothing compared to last Saturday. I was in a house where they were watching Ireland v. Belgium on BBC and yer man Shearer announced at half time that there were "a few chinks in the Belgian defence". Is that the granny rule and how come nobody else knew that? And weren't there a couple of lads sacked off Sky lately for using language like that?


You're acting the maggot with the chink thing Hardy surely?
A chink is a weakness in defensive armour. A small but possibly fatal weakness. Probably goes back to days of medieval warfare and chainmail and possibly a French origin - like a lot of descriptive words do.

😀


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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 27, 2016, 10:48:09 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 27, 2016, 08:47:14 AM
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get away from Tom(my) Carr.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2016, 03:09:20 PM
Ger and Martin at their patronising best today, I'm almost pining for Tommy Tom.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 03, 2016, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2016, 03:09:20 PM
Ger and Martin at their patronising best today, I'm almost pining for Tommy Tom.

No way,

There may be a lot of "strongly built fellows" around followed by a dozen "very much so Ger"

But at least they don't think they are an "expert on everything" like Tommy Tom



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 03, 2016, 03:19:00 PM
Would they give poor Dessie a chair the mean bastards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 03, 2016, 03:19:28 PM
Ger 'the jiz at Kerry' Canning having a field day here, ref also killing Tipp as a neutral
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 03, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
Do Brolly and Spillane always be kept apart this year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2016, 03:34:06 PM
What is the point of Dessie 'he/they will be disappointed with that' Dolan?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 03, 2016, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2016, 03:34:06 PM
What is the point of Dessie 'he/they will be disappointed with that' Dolan?

no idea, nice lad i am sure, but it is cliche city
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on July 03, 2016, 03:40:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2016, 03:34:06 PM
What is the point of Dessie 'he/they will be disappointed with that' Dolan?
That is a total mystery .Zero insight
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 03, 2016, 03:44:28 PM
Good man Joe, Tipp at half time were too defensive (when they weren't at all) and after the game they were one of the few teams that don't play defensively and would beat most other qualifiers.

Also blamed the GPA for the current format when they had a radical alternative and it's the grassroots who are keeping the current farce. Utter waffle from Joe today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 03, 2016, 03:47:54 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 03, 2016, 03:44:28 PM
Good man Joe, Tipp at half time were too defensive (when they weren't at all) and after the game they were one of the few teams that don't play defensively and would beat most other qualifiers.

Also blamed the GPA for the current format when they had a radical alternative and it's the grassroots who are keeping the current farce. Utter waffle from Joe today.
The sooner he's taken off the TV screens the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: time ticking away on July 03, 2016, 11:13:32 PM
Is tomás wearing a poppy ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2016, 11:27:53 PM
Cringy the laughs of Des and Ciaran when Tomas jokes about the west Kerry final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: barking mad on July 03, 2016, 11:33:05 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 03, 2016, 03:27:09 PM
Do Brolly and Spillane always be kept apart this year?

No unfortunately they showed up for the ros Sligo match
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 04, 2016, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2016, 11:27:53 PM
Cringy the laughs of Des and Ciaran when Tomas jokes about the west Kerry final.

Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on July 04, 2016, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2016, 11:27:53 PM
Cringy the laughs of Des and Ciaran when Tomas jokes about the west Kerry final.
Never mind that, the nudging and winking about the Ó Sé and Geaney relations was a bit odd. If Des thought we were stupid enough to not cop that Dingle and An Gaeltacht are West Kerry rivals he might as well have elaborated on that too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 04, 2016, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 04, 2016, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2016, 11:27:53 PM
Cringy the laughs of Des and Ciaran when Tomas jokes about the west Kerry final.

Why?

No need for a loud fake laugh like Whelan did. My own opinion of course. He could have let Des at it on his own.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 04, 2016, 11:36:42 AM
If RTE have to have a Kerryman on the panel, I wish they'd get someone like Dara O'Cinneide.
After a promising start, Tomás is just playing up to the stereotype now.
Also, I have no interest in Match of the Day style 'banter'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Unlaoised on July 05, 2016, 09:40:08 AM
Ciaran Whelan might have a good knowledge of players and comes across well but him and O'Shea just don't work together.

Dessie Dolan is far better
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 05:16:00 PM
Evanne is very good I have to say.
More of Evanne please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 09, 2016, 05:17:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 05:16:00 PM
Evanne is very good I have to say.
More of Evanne please.

Get rid of the men altogether.

I'd prefer to listen to Martina Morrisey and Tammi Carr.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 05:40:17 PM
Was surprised that RTE didn't run a "This has been a political broadcast on behalf of Jarlath Burns"

Himself and Dolan came out with some amount of nonsense on Aidan's dive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Evanne is more natural than Joanne Cantwell and you can tell she's a proper GAA woman.
Hope they give her more gigs like this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 09, 2016, 05:47:13 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Evanne is more natural than Joanne Cantwell and you can tell she's a proper GAA woman.
Hope they give her more gigs like this.

She was decent but she should have called Dolan and Burns on their nonsense.

The fact that they waited until almost 10 minutes into the analysis to mention the dive was fairly shocking stuff when it was the key moment in the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 06:16:09 PM

Evanne was good I thought. Need to get that out of the way because the other four fronting that production were unequivocally the worst commentating and analysis teams I've ever seen. Atrocious.

I mean, at this stage you'd have to ask if RTE are running some sort of insider joke with Tom Tom. The absolute certainty he delivers pure nonsense with is incredible. The also seem to have accepted that people must want Marty's form of hill Billy waffle is what people want to hear in 2016.

Jarleth just has no insight or understanding of the game. Not a breeze. Delivery over content.
I'm not even going to get into Dessie. He's a shambles.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 09, 2016, 06:38:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Evanne is more natural than Joanne Cantwell and you can tell she's a proper GAA woman.
Hope they give her more gigs like this.

Actually think Joanne Cantwell is not afraid to pull the pundits up on stuff. Seen her get slightly narky with pundits before when they are talking but saying nothing. Evanne pretty much played a straight bat, Des Cahill style.

That said she was better than Dessie and Jarlath.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on July 09, 2016, 06:41:40 PM
Bring back Cake and his trigonometry
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 09, 2016, 06:45:23 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 06:16:09 PM

Evanne was good I thought. Need to get that out of the way because the other four fronting that production were unequivocally the worst commentating and analysis teams I've ever seen. Atrocious.

I mean, at this stage you'd have to ask if RTE are running some sort of insider joke with Tom Tom. The absolute certainty he delivers pure nonsense with is incredible. The also seem to have accepted that people must want Marty's form of hill Billy waffle is what people want to hear in 2016.

Jarleth just has no insight or understanding of the game. Not a breeze. Delivery over content.
I'm not even going to get into Dessie. He's a shambles.

Sums it up perfectly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on July 10, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 06:16:09 PM

Evanne was good I thought. Need to get that out of the way because the other four fronting that production were unequivocally the worst commentating and analysis teams I've ever seen. Atrocious.

I mean, at this stage you'd have to ask if RTE are running some sort of insider joke with Tom Tom. The absolute certainty he delivers pure nonsense with is incredible. The also seem to have accepted that people must want Marty's form of hill Billy waffle is what people want to hear in 2016.

Jarleth just has no insight or understanding of the game. Not a breeze. Delivery over content.
I'm not even going to get into Dessie. He's a shambles.
;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
Marty & Dessie on duty...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 10, 2016, 02:08:14 PM
Wipe the lens
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2016, 02:21:20 PM
Ffs Marty have you not watched football for the past decade. Sickens my hole with 'look at the corner back up the field' shite. It's annoying the hell out of me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 10, 2016, 02:22:37 PM
Dessie Dolan: Every score is an inspirational score.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 10, 2016, 02:30:36 PM

Why are they not getting inside with the breeze?

Might be something to do with the three sweepers that have cut out the last five long deliveries Dessie
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 10, 2016, 11:16:31 PM
Tomas O'Se wearing the Missus' pink socks tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SkillfulBill on July 10, 2016, 11:35:09 PM
Now will Wello butcher O'Shea ??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:36:37 PM
I'm sure Whelan will be looking for O'Shea to apologise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2016, 11:44:54 PM
Just watching the replay there, what the hell was Dessie Dolan on about yesterday saying that McQuillan took his time and consulted his umpires?!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: north down on July 10, 2016, 11:46:27 PM
No calls for apologies tonight on the Sunday Game! It was just a huge mistake. Double standards or what?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
No apology required and apparently we should lay off Aidan as he made a mistake.

Great consistency from Whelan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on July 10, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
No apology required and apparently we should lay off Aidan as he made a mistake.

Great consistency from Whelan.
GAA should be looking to protect players like AOS from the abuse on social media?? Fairly different from his reaction to McCann
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2016, 11:52:00 PM
Poor Tiernan and his highly sensitive hair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 10, 2016, 11:52:05 PM
Need to get over Tiarnan McCann episode, I'm sure he loves being reminded of that every time theres a controversy since : (
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2016, 11:52:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 10, 2016, 11:44:54 PM
Just watching the replay there, what the hell was Dessie Dolan on about yesterday saying that McQuillan took his time and consulted his umpires?!
Dolan hasn't a clue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on July 10, 2016, 11:52:40 PM
Hope Tyrone never talk to RTE again
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on July 10, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 10, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
No apology required and apparently we should lay off Aidan as he made a mistake.

Great consistency from Whelan.
GAA should be looking to protect players like AOS from the abuse on social media?? Fairly different from his reaction to McCann

The GAA can do sweet eff all about protecting players on social media. If I send a tweet to Aidan O'Shea, calling him an unmerciful gobshite, what are they going to do....ban me from games, send the Guards around to my house, call Twitter and have my account shut down? Not going to happen, not unless I break a law of some sort. Last time I checked, calling someone a gobshite is not illegal. Not that I would ever do anything like that, but the genie is out of the bag now with social media. There is no putting it back in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on July 11, 2016, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: Beffs on July 10, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 10, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
No apology required and apparently we should lay off Aidan as he made a mistake.

Great consistency from Whelan.
GAA should be looking to protect players like AOS from the abuse on social media?? Fairly different from his reaction to McCann

The GAA can do sweet eff all about protecting players on social media. If I send a tweet to Aidan O'Shea, calling him an unmerciful gobsite, what are they going to do....ban me from games, send the Guards around to my house, call Twitter and have my account shut down? Not going to happen, not unless I break a law of some sort. Last time I checked, calling someone a gobshite is not illegal. Not that I would ever do anything like that, but the genie is out of the bag now with social media now. There is no putting it back in.
Think the main point is Whelan is full of shit & totally inconsistent
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2016, 12:04:42 AM
Quote from: Beffs on July 10, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 10, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
No apology required and apparently we should lay off Aidan as he made a mistake.

Great consistency from Whelan.
GAA should be looking to protect players like AOS from the abuse on social media?? Fairly different from his reaction to McCann

The GAA can do sweet eff all about protecting players on social media. If I send a tweet to Aidan O'Shea, calling him an unmerciful gobshite, what are they going to do....ban me from games, send the Guards around to my house, call Twitter and have my account shut down? Not going to happen, not unless I break a law of some sort. Last time I checked, calling someone a gobshite is not illegal. Not that I would ever do anything like that, but the genie is out of the bag now with social media. There is no putting it back in.
Amazing how the Tyronie's make EVERY story about them.

The cat is out of the bag and the genie is out of the bottle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Qwerty28 on July 11, 2016, 12:05:05 AM
They saved the best wine til last!  Been a long day of sport, especially as I lost 70 mins of my life that I'll never get back to the connacht final  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 11, 2016, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2016, 12:04:42 AM
Quote from: Beffs on July 10, 2016, 11:56:21 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 10, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 10, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
No apology required and apparently we should lay off Aidan as he made a mistake.

Great consistency from Whelan.
GAA should be looking to protect players like AOS from the abuse on social media?? Fairly different from his reaction to McCann

The GAA can do sweet eff all about protecting players on social media. If I send a tweet to Aidan O'Shea, calling him an unmerciful gobshite, what are they going to do....ban me from games, send the Guards around to my house, call Twitter and have my account shut down? Not going to happen, not unless I break a law of some sort. Last time I checked, calling someone a gobshite is not illegal. Not that I would ever do anything like that, but the genie is out of the bag now with social media. There is no putting it back in.
Amazing how the Tyronie's make EVERY story about them.

The cat is out of the bag and the genie is out of the bottle.

Think it's amazing the way some people ignore blatant bias and double standards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 11, 2016, 12:29:11 AM
Did they have any highlights from the game of the weekend in Newbridge?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 11, 2016, 12:34:43 AM
It shows RTE's complacency with their position as broadcasters of the GAA, that they couldn't even be arsed setting up some sort of protective cover for their cameras at the Connacht final. Or least give the fecking things a wipe from time to time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 11, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 11, 2016, 12:34:43 AM
It shows RTE's complacency with their position as broadcasters of the GAA, that they couldn't even be arsed setting up some sort of protective cover for their cameras at the Connacht final. Or least give the fecking things a wipe from time to time.

That would spoil it. The players had to deal with that shit and the frosty glass perspective meant viewers could be sympathetic. The telly could not show how wicked the gale was though. They should have added sound effect of strong wind to give a realistic flavour of conditions. Those were rotten conditions for footballers today. I did not attend a league game this year when weather was worse. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 11, 2016, 07:12:03 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 11, 2016, 12:29:11 AM
Did they have any highlights from the game of the weekend in Newbridge?

They showed a couple of minutes of that match, looked good. Why do they always seem to start with hurling first? I thought the pundits were ok last night. Whelan in particular is excellent, measured and very fair. What the Tyrone people need to realise is from a neutral point of view the mccann dive was on a whole different scale. As oshea starts to run for the ball he is being obviously impeded by cullen, not enough for him to go down but enough to prevent him getting to the ball and that is probably why he went down.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: north down on July 11, 2016, 08:22:34 AM
Perhaps Whelan should apologise for asking McCann to apologise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 11, 2016, 08:25:13 AM

There's a difference between a player using the dynamics and incidental contact of the game to dive and imply a foul and what McCann did. With O'Se, if you were the recipient, you'd love to put your boot in him. With McCann, you would unquestionably put your boot in him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 11, 2016, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 11, 2016, 07:12:03 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 11, 2016, 12:29:11 AM
Did they have any highlights from the game of the weekend in Newbridge?

They showed a couple of minutes of that match, looked good. Why do they always seem to start with hurling first? I thought the pundits were ok last night. Whelan in particular is excellent, measured and very fair. What the Tyrone people need to realise is from a neutral point of view the mccann dive was on a whole different scale. As oshea starts to run for the ball he is being obviously impeded by cullen, not enough for him to go down but enough to prevent him getting to the ball and that is probably why he went down.
If he was on a junior b team with me I'd tell him he's a bollox for the diving
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 11, 2016, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: north down on July 11, 2016, 08:22:34 AM
Perhaps Whelan should apologise for asking McCann to apologise.

perhaps we should get over it and stop dragging this up and allow McCann to get on with his football career
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 11, 2016, 11:49:31 AM
A Dives a dive lads!

Whilst Mccanns was ridiculous and embarrassing it didn't effect the outcome of the match whereas this one......  :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 11, 2016, 01:36:39 PM
They fairly nailed McQuillan and his decision not to send Aido to the line with their video footage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on July 11, 2016, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 11, 2016, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: north down on July 11, 2016, 08:22:34 AM
Perhaps Whelan should apologise for asking McCann to apologise.

perhaps we should get over it and stop dragging this up and allow McCann to get on with his football career
Totally agree and the same with  whelan with his punditry career..
I'm sure Whelan woke up the day after and regretted what he said then..no apologies needed. We all make an eejit out of ourselves sometimes. Unfortunately both Mc Cann, O Shea, Whelan and Orourke (hat gate) all Made them bloopers on TV. Time to call them one last time for the eejits that they were then and move on..
On👒
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 09:55:12 AM
I'm surprised Mickey has spoken out  about this but maybe we're going again for the siege mentality which he uses a lot to motivate the players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-hits-out-at-ciaran-whelans-contrasting-dive-analysis-34875174.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 12, 2016, 09:59:23 AM
All about Tyrone as usual . . .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 12, 2016, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 09:55:12 AM
I'm surprised Mickey has spoken out  about this but maybe we're going again for the siege mentality which he uses a lot to motivate the players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-hits-out-at-ciaran-whelans-contrasting-dive-analysis-34875174.html

no he's just a bitter man
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Estimator on July 12, 2016, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: longballin on July 12, 2016, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 09:55:12 AM
I'm surprised Mickey has spoken out  about this but maybe we're going again for the siege mentality which he uses a lot to motivate the players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-hits-out-at-ciaran-whelans-contrasting-dive-analysis-34875174.html

no he's just a bitter man

Micky has also highlighted the difference between the treatment of Tony Donnelly and Maxi Curran in the newspaper this week. It's all about playing the media and trying to influence decisions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 10:37:30 AM
What is the story with the waistcoats?
and why did the Dubs change the tone of blue in the jerseys to look like Man city ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 12, 2016, 10:41:58 AM
Quote from: Estimator on July 12, 2016, 10:22:44 AM
Quote from: longballin on July 12, 2016, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 09:55:12 AM
I'm surprised Mickey has spoken out  about this but maybe we're going again for the siege mentality which he uses a lot to motivate the players.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-hits-out-at-ciaran-whelans-contrasting-dive-analysis-34875174.html

no he's just a bitter man

Micky has also highlighted the difference between the treatment of Tony Donnelly and Maxi Curran in the newspaper this week. It's all about playing the media and trying to influence decisions.

if he could keep it inhouse... the whole thing spreads through the supporters and fosters a whole atmophere of anger and bitterness - you only have to look on social media to see that. Sport should be about enjoyment
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 12, 2016, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 10:37:30 AM

and why did the Dubs change the tone of blue in the jerseys to look like Man city ?

Two moneybags organisations?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 11:11:59 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 12, 2016, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 10:37:30 AM

and why did the Dubs change the tone of blue in the jerseys to look like Man city ?

Two moneybags organisations?
I wonder when the Dubs will start doing a pre season tour in China
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 11:22:27 AM
It's never about Derry as usual...
Why doesn't someone talk more about Derry?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 11:22:27 AM
It's never about Derry as usual...
Why doesn't someone talk more about Derry?
Based on the Board anyway there are 4 counties with some sort of neurosis amongst the support. Mayo have a personal agony thing going on. Roscommon have small man syndrome. Tyrone have a form of paranoia. And the Dubs have Indiana.

Derry is just normal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 12, 2016, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 11:45:18 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 12, 2016, 11:22:27 AM
It's never about Derry as usual...
Why doesn't someone talk more about Derry?
Based on the Board anyway there are 4 counties with some sort of neurosis amongst the support. Mayo have a personal agony thing going on. Roscommon have small man syndrome. Tyrone have a form of paranoia. And the Dubs have Indiana.

Derry is just normal. Average

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 12, 2016, 12:06:16 PM
Which one of the Tyrone posters is Mickey Harte?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AhNowRef on July 12, 2016, 12:42:49 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 11, 2016, 08:25:13 AM

There's a difference between a player using the dynamics and incidental contact of the game to dive and imply a foul and what McCann did. With O'Se, if you were the recipient, you'd love to put your boot in him. With McCann, you would unquestionably put your boot in him.

How do you work that out ...

I bet if you asked any player they'd definately stick the first boot in O'Se as his actions cost the opposing team the game and dumped them out of the AI ... McCanns did nothing of the sort.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: whitey on July 12, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
FFS there were 3 big calls in last Saturday's game, any one of which could have determined the outcome  at the final whistle

2 went in favor of Fermanagh and 1 went in favor of Mayo

At the end of the day all one can hope for is that the good and bad calls even each other out over the course of the game and that seems to have happened in Saturday
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 12, 2016, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 12, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
FFS there were 3 big calls in last Saturday's game, any one of which could have determined the outcome  at the final whistle

2 went in favor of Fermanagh and 1 went in favor of Mayo

At the end of the day all one can hope for is that the good and bad calls even each other out over the course of the game and that seems to have happened in Saturday

Don't know what game you where watching.

Whelo seemed more incensed over the fact the ref didn't give Aidan a 2nd yellow/black card for his cynical pull down in the 2nd half. "Bottled it" was what he said and he was dead right. O'Shea gets the line then and penalty incident never happens.

If there is any justice in this that should be Joe McQuillan's last day out in the championship as well this year as a ref/linesman.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 12, 2016, 06:19:56 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 12, 2016, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 12, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
FFS there were 3 big calls in last Saturday's game, any one of which could have determined the outcome  at the final whistle

2 went in favor of Fermanagh and 1 went in favor of Mayo

At the end of the day all one can hope for is that the good and bad calls even each other out over the course of the game and that seems to have happened in Saturday

Don't know what game you where watching.

Whelo seemed more incensed over the fact the ref didn't give Aidan a 2nd yellow/black card for his cynical pull down in the 2nd half. "Bottled it" was what he said and he was dead right. O'Shea gets the line then and penalty incident never happens.

If there is any justice in this that should be Joe McQuillan's last day out in the championship as well this year as a ref/linesman.

Would give Joe more time to referee Dublin A v B games!  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 12, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

This is about pumping his anti RTE agenda again...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

You are consumed by hate.

The only two differences between those situations is O'Shea's had a big impact on the game. As has been pointed out before, O'Shea has previous, McCann didn't before his incident.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 12, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

This is about pumping his anti RTE agenda again...

It will get very awkward at the winner's banquet in September if Michael Lyster wants in to do the traditional interviews.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on July 12, 2016, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 12, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

This is about pumping his anti RTE agenda again...

It will get very awkward at the winner's banquet in September if Michael Lyster wants in to do the traditional interviews.

Big fall out with Dublin on the cards??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 12, 2016, 10:04:35 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 12, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

This is about pumping his anti RTE agenda again...

It will get very awkward at the winner's banquet in September if Michael Lyster wants in to do the traditional interviews.

That's the plan...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on July 12, 2016, 10:04:48 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:46:03 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

You are consumed by hate.

aye, dead on Trigger
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2016, 10:19:16 PM
I hope to see a Tyrone Lives Matter march on the streets soon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2016, 10:26:17 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 12, 2016, 09:55:08 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 12, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 09:24:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 09:14:34 PM
Good to see Mickey call that vile **** Whelan out.

To compare those 2 situations as if they were similar just shows how much harte has really lost it. It's lucky he has peter Donnelly there at the moment and he has them playing better than at anytime in the last 7 or 8 years.

This is about pumping his anti RTE agenda again...

It will get very awkward at the winner's banquet in September if Michael Lyster wants in to do the traditional interviews.
Is there something going on in Mayo?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.

If there was such an anti Tyrone agenda on rte how come this year they have received nothing but praise? The simple fact is for years under harte tyrone were the most cynical team around and masters of the dark arts. Since peter donnelly has come in tyyrone are playing a much more attractive style and they are rightly getting credit. The only agenda is an anti rte agenda from tyrone people. Hartes good friend carty didn't get promoted and harte needs to get over that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 12, 2016, 10:40:15 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.

If there was such an anti Tyrone agenda on rte how come this year they have received nothing but praise? The simple fact is for years under harte tyrone were the most cynical team around and masters of the dark arts. Since peter donnelly has come in tyyrone are playing a much more attractive style and they are rightly getting credit. The only agenda is an anti rte agenda from tyrone people. Hartes good friend carty didn't get promoted and harte needs to get over that.

True but don't lump all Tyrone people in that, many can see through it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.

If there was such an anti Tyrone agenda on rte how come this year they have received nothing but praise? The simple fact is for years under harte tyrone were the most cynical team around and masters of the dark arts. Since peter donnelly has come in tyyrone are playing a much more attractive style and they are rightly getting credit. The only agenda is an anti rte agenda from tyrone people. Hartes good friend carty didn't get promoted and harte needs to get over that.

Harte wrote a letter to RTE and RTE's response was to leak the letter and commission a skit about him with an extremely insensitive dig about his recently bereaved daughter. Anyone with any moral fibre will see that Harte and the wider Tyrone GAA community is justified in their stance with RTE.

The simple fact is that there have been other teams every bit as cynical and masters at the dark arts as Tyrone in the past few years that have got off without as much as a whisper.

Dublin have had a couple of biting allegations, gouging, behind closed doors mass brawls, two of their players up in court for assaults, guys like Cooper and McMahon regularly acting the maggot. No mud has stuck there, there is no log book being collected on Dublin's unsavoury incidents.

In fact some of the stuff which has been used as a stick to beat Tyrone has been completely erroneous, the lies spread and spread about the two minors last year, the rubbish spouted about our u21s last years. No apologies have been forthcoming about that, have they?

I don't care what they say about Tyrone, I just only care that other counties are held to the same strict scrutiny we are, which as you and I both know is not the case.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: INDIANA on July 12, 2016, 11:25:44 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.

If there was such an anti Tyrone agenda on rte how come this year they have received nothing but praise? The simple fact is for years under harte tyrone were the most cynical team around and masters of the dark arts. Since peter donnelly has come in tyyrone are playing a much more attractive style and they are rightly getting credit. The only agenda is an anti rte agenda from tyrone people. Hartes good friend carty didn't get promoted and harte needs to get over that.

Harte wrote a letter to RTE and RTE's response was to leak the letter and commission a skit about him with an extremely insensitive dig about his recently bereaved daughter. Anyone with any moral fibre will see that Harte and the wider Tyrone GAA community is justified in their stance with RTE.

The simple fact is that there have been other teams every bit as cynical and masters at the dark arts as Tyrone in the past few years that have got off without as much as a whisper.

Dublin have had a couple of biting allegations, gouging, behind closed doors mass brawls, two of their players up in court for assaults, guys like Cooper and McMahon regularly acting the maggot. No mud has stuck there, there is no log book being collected on Dublin's unsavoury incidents.

In fact some of the stuff which has been used as a stick to beat Tyrone has been completely erroneous, the lies spread and spread about the two minors last year, the rubbish spouted about our u21s last years. No apologies have been forthcoming about that, have they?

I don't care what they say about Tyrone, I just only care that other counties are held to the same strict scrutiny we are, which as you and I both know is not the case.

Ah boo hoo. We can donate some Kleenex if you need it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 13, 2016, 12:35:36 AM
Whelan is an excellent pundit. Not afraid to offer an opinion and he himself would admit that he was a bit harsh on McCann last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of bastards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 05:02:50 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 13, 2016, 12:35:36 AM
Whelan is an excellent pundit. Not afraid to offer an opinion and he himself would admit that he was a bit harsh on McCann last year.

Never heard anything from him to suggest that. But maybe your a spokesman for his interior monologue?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2016, 10:19:16 PM
I hope to see a Tyrone Lives Matter march on the streets soon.
It would be more likely to be a Tyrone Feelings Matter march
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 13, 2016, 07:49:16 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.

If there was such an anti Tyrone agenda on rte how come this year they have received nothing but praise? The simple fact is for years under harte tyrone were the most cynical team around and masters of the dark arts. Since peter donnelly has come in tyyrone are playing a much more attractive style and they are rightly getting credit. The only agenda is an anti rte agenda from tyrone people. Hartes good friend carty didn't get promoted and harte needs to get over that.

Harte wrote a letter to RTE and RTE's response was to leak the letter and commission a skit about him with an extremely insensitive dig about his recently bereaved daughter. Anyone with any moral fibre will see that Harte and the wider Tyrone GAA community is justified in their stance with RTE.

The simple fact is that there have been other teams every bit as cynical and masters at the dark arts as Tyrone in the past few years that have got off without as much as a whisper.

Dublin have had a couple of biting allegations, gouging, behind closed doors mass brawls, two of their players up in court for assaults, guys like Cooper and McMahon regularly acting the maggot. No mud has stuck there, there is no log book being collected on Dublin's unsavoury incidents.

In fact some of the stuff which has been used as a stick to beat Tyrone has been completely erroneous, the lies spread and spread about the two minors last year, the rubbish spouted about our u21s last years. No apologies have been forthcoming about that, have they?

I don't care what they say about Tyrone, I just only care that other counties are held to the same strict scrutiny we are, which as you and I both know is not the case.

You obviously feel so strongly about this that it's probably time for you to show solidarity with harte and boycott rte also. It's clearly upsetting you too much to watch it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2016, 08:45:49 AM
Bomber you have lost it son. Madness to call Ciaran Whelan a thug. Bloody good player!

Not many modern day midfielders would score a goal like the one he got against Armagh in 02.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2016, 08:45:49 AM
Bomber you have lost it son. Madness to call Ciaran Whelan a thug. Bloody good player!

Not many modern day midfielders would score a goal like the one he got against Armagh in 02.

Totally agree and he is developing into the best pundit on tv. Articulate, fair and intelligent in his opinions. Much better than Tomas ose, dessie dolan and brian Mcguigan. If sky continue their coverage for a few more years I can see them trying to poach him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 13, 2016, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.

Lenny, if you didn't post about Tyrone you wouldn't post at all. But I'll humour you, how are they shooting themselves in the foot? It makes no odds to the Tyrone team if they don't speak to RTE and if (rightly or wrongly) they perceive that RTE, in particular, have been unfairly critical of them (never mind the whole Mickey Harte /Micheala issue) then it's their own prerogative to speak to them or not. I'm not really sure why you are so keen to hear post match interviews from Mickey Harte or Matty Donnelly but it clearly really pisses you off for some reason as you keep banging on about it. In this age of social media Tyrone players don't need to speak to RTE to get their point across, maintain a high profile or whatever reason it is that you feel is so important. My advice would be to go to teamtalkmag.com, there's loads of interviews on there if you want to see them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ciaraa on July 13, 2016, 09:45:37 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 12, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 12, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDb9nvzY9sY

Apparently it was not in Johnny Cooper's nature to do this.

We should all lay off Aidan O'Shea.

But Tiernan McCann should apologise.

Whelan is an excellent pundit. Very enjoyable to listen to and very fair. He went slightly over the top last year with mccanns disgraceful and disgusting play acting but he learned from that this year. There is real ambiguity about the oshea "dive" given the pictures circulating on twitter which seem to show a trip by the Fermanagh defender. Harte seems to take every opportunity he can get to bad mouth rte. He should really get over the non promotion of brian carty.

Whelan was shown up as a hypocrite last year, he was more than willing to go to town on Tyrone last year but when his own county turned out a display of thuggery he was there downplaying the incidents and his own players.

As a player he was a thug and as a pundit he is a two faced hypocrite who is willing to push the agenda of his bosses over the fair and balanced display his role should require.

I suppose you are form the same school as Whelan though given your refusal to condemn Enda Lynn's playacting last year that saw a Down man incorrectly red carded.

As for Mickey Harte, I think he has reacted with great dignity and principle after the Free State broadcaster thought it would be funny to mock his daughter's death.

If there was such an anti Tyrone agenda on rte how come this year they have received nothing but praise? The simple fact is for years under harte tyrone were the most cynical team around and masters of the dark arts. Since peter donnelly has come in tyyrone are playing a much more attractive style and they are rightly getting credit. The only agenda is an anti rte agenda from tyrone people. Hartes good friend carty didn't get promoted and harte needs to get over that.

Harte wrote a letter to RTE and RTE's response was to leak the letter and commission a skit about him with an extremely insensitive dig about his recently bereaved daughter. Anyone with any moral fibre will see that Harte and the wider Tyrone GAA community is justified in their stance with RTE.

The simple fact is that there have been other teams every bit as cynical and masters at the dark arts as Tyrone in the past few years that have got off without as much as a whisper.

Dublin have had a couple of biting allegations, gouging, behind closed doors mass brawls, two of their players up in court for assaults, guys like Cooper and McMahon regularly acting the maggot. No mud has stuck there, there is no log book being collected on Dublin's unsavoury incidents.

In fact some of the stuff which has been used as a stick to beat Tyrone has been completely erroneous, the lies spread and spread about the two minors last year, the rubbish spouted about our u21s last years. No apologies have been forthcoming about that, have they?

I don't care what they say about Tyrone, I just only care that other counties are held to the same strict scrutiny we are, which as you and I both know is not the case.

Wow - no offence mate but that's some whiney post!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DickyRock on July 13, 2016, 10:03:03 AM
I wish every other county would stop doing interviews. 99.99% of them are bland and santisited to the point that they offer no insight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 13, 2016, 10:09:55 AM
I think Whelan is one of the better ones on the Sunday game but definitely last year he let his Dublin bias get the better of him but at least he admitted that later on off the ball.

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/audio-ciaran-whelan-defends-himself-against-accusations-of-pro-dublin-bias/307185

Loads of lads on here who love stirring the Tyrone pot just for the sake of a reaction. Yes that can be fun at times but it also means a lot of posters hold back in saying what they really feel as they then get posts like
Wow - no offence mate but that's some whiney post!! or poor old Tyrone again, here's a tissue.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2016, 10:19:16 PM
I hope to see a Tyrone Lives Matter march on the streets soon.

I have to hold my hands up and admit I'm guilty of judging people by the colour of their county jersey.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.

They are allowed. They choose not to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 13, 2016, 11:34:02 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.

They are allowed. They choose not to.

that is nonsense they know they have no choice and the minute they get off the Tyrone panel go straight onto RTE despite request from Harte not to...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oakleafgael on July 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 12:52:51 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.

They are allowed. They choose not to.
It reminds me of the old joke about the IRA man on Mastermind

Name ? Poss
Chosen subject? Poss

Voice comes from the audience. "That's it Paddy. Tell him nothing".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 13, 2016, 11:34:02 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.

They are allowed. They choose not to.

that is nonsense they know they have no choice and the minute they get off the Tyrone panel go straight onto RTE despite request from Harte not to...

They have a choice. They choose not to, that fact seems to labour with you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 13, 2016, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 01:19:09 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 13, 2016, 11:34:02 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 08:15:55 AM
Why can't Harte and RTE bury the hatchet?
Or does being the injured party drive Throne on, Millwall style ?

Harte will never give in but his players and other members of the management team should be allowed to speak to rte after and even before games. They are shooting themselves in the foot with this team and management boycott.

They are allowed. They choose not to.

that is nonsense they know they have no choice and the minute they get off the Tyrone panel go straight onto RTE despite request from Harte not to...

They have a choice. They choose not to, that fact seems to labour with you.

You just keep telling yourself that. Any rational or sane person knows that they have no choice in this matter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.

The Derry men don't like having to abide by their own high standards and moral  compass.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2016, 01:54:12 PM
There isn't one school, club or county side that doesn't have divers!

The problem is if the GAA don't eradicate it early doors then it will fester into the epidemic that has ruined soccer.

It's nearly impossible to police at school/club level but at this level players tend to mirror what they see on the Sunday Game. If high profile players get away with it then younger players will follow suit.

Bomber - Have you heard first hand that every single Tyrone player chooses not to engage with RTE? My guess would be Mickey has his lieutenants carry out the orders. All successful sides are run by a core group of 4-5 players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 02:08:42 PM
Discussions on diving on this board depress me because when one guy is highlighted that county's supporters often rally around him and point to other incidents. This only proves that diving is a problem NOW, not a creeping one. We even had Cian Ward (I think) of Meath equating O'Shea's dive to a defender pulling the jersey and Dessie Dolan going all soccer-speak talking about contact!! If the recently retired generation of players view diving as reasonably acceptable then what will te next generation think?

Football used to be a game that was honest at least and while some off the ball stuff couldn't be condoned, the worst excesses weren't common. Now cheating of the worst kind is a notable part of our game and instead of condemning it outright with no ifs buts or ands we defend it. I'm afraid the game is in a bad place and we need to be radical to save it.

EDIT: More mealy mouthy shite from a recently retired player, this time Billy Joe Padden -

DESPITE what some people might have you believe, it's not Aidan O'Shea's responsibility to protect the integrity and the good name of Gaelic football. That's the responsibility of the officials and the administrators.
Aidan O'Shea's responsibility is to his make sure that he does whatever he can for his team, his team-mates, and Mayo.

That's like arguing it isn't your job not to steal from your neighbours, it's the guards job to make sure you don't. In other words an abdication of responsibility for players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 02:48:53 PM
The Mayo mafia circling the wagons...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2016, 02:49:21 PM
Billy Joe Padden - a crap footballer and now a worse pundit!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 13, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
I don't think diving is as black and white as you are trying to make out Zulu.
Yes the most obvious ones like McCann's hair flick last year was a total disgrace and I don't think you will find many "sensible" people defending it. However, even AOS dive last weekend has some vagueness about it.
Having watched it several times on replay and from different angles it does certainly look like a dive and that he made it look very theatrical. However, as those pics of the two players legs show that is is possible there was contact there but who knows for sure. The way he went down though was a disgrace and was totally playing for the penalty and this is the stuff I agree there should be a change in the rules to use video evidence after a game to suspend a player.
I think its very hard for a ref or even linesmen to make a definite call there and then unless they have a very clear view of it.

Do you agree though that often refs will not give a big strong player a free UNLESS he goes to ground?
We often see Kieran Donaghy, Aidan O'Shea and Michael Murphy getting pulled and fouled all over the place but if they try to stay on their feet then the ref tends to allow play to continue. I think this is unfair and gives a huge advantage to the defenders marking them and is the reason why so many are now getting frustrated and going to ground.

If you are not a fan of Kerry or Donaghy, like a lot are on here, its too easy to just say "Ahh sure he's able to take it and it's a man's game" etc but it's a different story if it's your best player from your own team and he's not being allowed to play due to unfair tackling.

For years forwards have learnt how to fight their own corner and how to win a free by being smart about it when your man is constantly fouling you. Are you saying its OK for the defender to cheat but not for the forward?
I think that is the crux of the problem for a lot of people.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 13, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.

The Derry men don't like having to abide by their own high standards and moral  compass.

That video is completely ambiguous. Totally unlike mccanns pathetic and disgusting play acting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 13, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 02:08:42 PM
Discussions on diving on this board depress me because when one guy is highlighted that county's supporters often rally around him and point to other incidents. This only proves that diving is a problem NOW, not a creeping one. We even had Cian Ward (I think) of Meath equating O'Shea's dive to a defender pulling the jersey and Dessie Dolan going all soccer-speak talking about contact!! If the recently retired generation of players view diving as reasonably acceptable then what will te next generation think?

Football used to be a game that was honest at least and while some off the ball stuff couldn't be condoned, the worst excesses weren't common. Now cheating of the worst kind is a notable part of our game and instead of condemning it outright with no ifs buts or ands we defend it. I'm afraid the game is in a bad place and we need to be radical to save it.

EDIT: More mealy mouthy shite from a recently retired player, this time Billy Joe Padden -

DESPITE what some people might have you believe, it's not Aidan O'Shea's responsibility to protect the integrity and the good name of Gaelic football. That's the responsibility of the officials and the administrators.
Aidan O'Shea's responsibility is to his make sure that he does whatever he can for his team, his team-mates, and Mayo.

That's like arguing it isn't your job not to steal from your neighbours, it's the guards job to make sure you don't. In other words an abdication of responsibility for players.

100 times this. Diving should be a retrospective red. Really disappointed it wasn't acted upon at congress.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on July 13, 2016, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 13, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
I don't think diving is as black and white as you are trying to make out Zulu.
Yes the most obvious ones like McCann's hair flick last year was a total disgrace and I don't think you will find many "sensible" people defending it. However, even AOS dive last weekend has some vagueness about it.
Having watched it several times on replay and from different angles it does certainly look like a dive and that he made it look very theatrical. However, as those pics of the two players legs show that is is possible there was contact there but who knows for sure. The way he went down though was a disgrace and was totally playing for the penalty and this is the stuff I agree there should be a change in the rules to use video evidence after a game to suspend a player.
I think its very hard for a ref or even linesmen to make a definite call there and then unless they have a very clear view of it.

Do you agree though that often refs will not give a big strong player a free UNLESS he goes to ground?
We often see Kieran Donaghy, Aidan O'Shea and Michael Murphy getting pulled and fouled all over the place but if they try to stay on their feet then the ref tends to allow play to continue. I think this is unfair and gives a huge advantage to the defenders marking them and is the reason why so many are now getting frustrated and going to ground.

If you are not a fan of Kerry or Donaghy, like a lot are on here, its too easy to just say "Ahh sure he's able to take it and it's a man's game" etc but it's a different story if it's your best player from your own team and he's not being allowed to play due to unfair tackling.

For years forwards have learnt how to fight their own corner and how to win a free by being smart about it when your man is constantly fouling you. Are you saying its OK for the defender to cheat but not for the forward?
I think that is the crux of the problem for a lot of people.
I don't agree re AOS - watched the full match live on Saturday & thought he should have been blown up for charging on numerous occasions. He wins the ball & then immediately puts the head down & just runs straight. Are defenders just meant to politely let him pass? Donaghy is an unlikeable character but probably does warrant more protection as he tends to get pulled & dragged as high ball is approaching or as he's in the process of catching
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 04:12:30 PM
Fuzzman, I understand what you're saying but I wouldn't equate a dive with a pull of the jersey because if a defender fouls he can be punished for that foul whereas if a forward dives, not only does he not, usually, get punished but the defender can instead.

I agree, there are different 'types' of dives and while I can't see any reason for O'Shea to go to ground at least if there was a clear strong pull of the jersey you could say he was just 'helping' the ref to see the foul. However, I think we have seen way too many examples of really bad diving and it will only get worse if we don't deal with it.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
The tackle is badly defined
The GAA does not use TV evidence
the ref decides everything
the culture of cheating is gaining the upper hand
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
I remember John McDermott (one of the top 5 manliest footballers of all time) diving to win us a penalty against Galway in 2001.
At the time it didn't garner much publicity because (a) we were hammered, and (b) it was the most awkward dive you've ever seen in your life.
It was like watching your elderly drunk uncle trying to break-dance at a wedding.
And him a priest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 05:31:07 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
I remember John McDermott (one of the top 5 manliest footballers of all time) diving to win us a penalty against Galway in 2001.
At the time it didn't garner much publicity because (a) we were hammered, and (b) it was the most awkward dive you've ever seen in your life.
It was like watching your elderly drunk uncle trying to break-dance at a wedding.
And him a priest.
The ISPCM were more interested in complaining about the result and they got the media attention
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AhNowRef on July 13, 2016, 06:02:08 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 13, 2016, 05:09:40 PM
I remember John McDermott (one of the top 5 manliest footballers of all time) diving to win us a penalty against Galway in 2001.
At the time it didn't garner much publicity because (a) we were hammered, and (b) it was the most awkward dive you've ever seen in your life.
It was like watching your elderly drunk uncle trying to break-dance at a wedding.
And him a priest.

Thats mad .. never knew John McDermott was a priest  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 06:20:49 PM
J Mc Dermott
4 Leinsters.
2 All Irelands
Meath player

Imagine 12 year olds today. For them such a creature is unimaginable
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.

The Derry men don't like having to abide by their own high standards and moral  compass.

That video is completely ambiguous. Totally unlike mccanns pathetic and disgusting play acting.


It's not like McCann but it's not quite 'the poor fella got two fingers/a poke in the eye and had to crouch down to deal with it'. A dive is a dive, if you watch the game you'll probably see Conor Laverty (and undoubtedly other Down players) falling over at the slightest of touches, just as there were plenty of Derry men doing it that day. Just because it wasn't as bad as McCann's doesn't mean it's something you can defend.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2016, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
The tackle is badly defined
The GAA does not use TV evidence
the ref decides everything
the culture of cheating is gaining the upper hand
What does it say about the economy?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 13, 2016, 08:14:36 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 13, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on July 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on July 13, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.

The Derry men don't like having to abide by their own high standards and moral  compass.

That video is completely ambiguous. Totally unlike mccanns pathetic and disgusting play acting.


It's not like McCann but it's not quite 'the poor fella got two fingers/a poke in the eye and had to crouch down to deal with it'. A dive is a dive, if you watch the game you'll probably see Conor Laverty (and undoubtedly other Down players) falling over at the slightest of touches, just as there were plenty of Derry men doing it that day. Just because it wasn't as bad as McCann's doesn't mean it's something you can defend.

I'll have to disagree with you there. I'm not saying that A Derry player has never dived but in this case it isn't clear cut as we can't see the incident all that clearly and there is substantial enough contact. Also Lynn only crouches down afterwards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 08:28:27 PM
1. Aidan O'Shea's dive is indefensible and any of this "oh it was coming to us" stuff is horsesh*t. I would favour a 2 strike - 1 match ban policy with feigning injury at this point before things get worse and young lads start to think (know?) you can get away with it. If a guy has a once off brainfart and does something stupid, fair enough. If he does it twice in the same year though, 1 match ban.

2. No, Aidan O'Shea is not the first or only player that has done this. Aidan O'Mahony from my own county went down embarassingly in 2008 against Cork (having received a light smack in the face). Don't think he did anything like it again thankfully. There have been many other instances of it. Peter Canavan headbutted Mike McCarthy's arm in 2003 and got him booked in another example.

3. Il Bomber and anyone else with a Tyrone persecution complex need to catch themselves on. McCann has copped himself on this year which is good to see, but that dive last year was awful AND is worse than what O'Shea did as it had 1 purpose - to get a man red carded. So Mickey Harte or anyone else moaning about it still is only embarassing themselves.

4. Where Il Bomber does have a point is that, yes Whelan was a thug who mysteriously avoided around 10 red cards in his career. He isn't the worst analyst in my opinion but yes he's totally biased when it comes to Dubin. I blame RTE for that though. no guy should have anything to do with a game their own county is playing. RTE have this annoying habit of doing just that. Martin Carney co-comentating on Mayo and Donegal games for example (Tommy Carr and himself are insufferable no matter who is playing, "it must be said"  ::) )

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 13, 2016, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 08:28:27 PM
1. Aidan O'Shea's dive is indefensible and any of this "oh it was coming to us" stuff is horsesh*t. I would favour a 2 strike - 1 match ban policy with feigning injury at this point before things get worse and young lads start to think (know?) you can get away with it. If a guy has a once off brainfart and does something stupid, fair enough. If he does it twice in the same year though, 1 match ban.

2. No, Aidan O'Shea is not the first or only player that has done this. Aidan O'Mahony from my own county went down embarassingly in 2008 against Cork (having received a light smack in the face). Don't think he did anything like it again thankfully. There have been many other instances of it. Peter Canavan headbutted Mike McCarthy's arm in 2003 and got him booked in another example.

3. Il Bomber and anyone else with a Tyrone persecution complex need to catch themselves on. McCann has copped himself on this year which is good to see, but that dive last year was awful AND is worse than what O'Shea did as it had 1 purpose - to get a man red carded. So Mickey Harte or anyone else moaning about it still is only embarassing themselves.

4. Where Il Bomber does have a point is that, yes Whelan was a thug who mysteriously avoided around 10 red cards in his career. He isn't the worst analyst in my opinion but yes he's totally biased when it comes to Dubin. I blame RTE for that though. no guy should have anything to do with a game their own county is playing. RTE have this annoying habit of doing just that. Martin Carney co-comentating on Mayo and Donegal games for example (Tommy Carr and himself are insufferable no matter who is playing, "it must be said"  ::) )

Don't forget the King of the Dive - JOD! He though us a thing or two in Limerick in 2014. Not to mention last years Munster final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 08:57:29 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 04:12:30 PM
Fuzzman, I understand what you're saying but I wouldn't equate a dive with a pull of the jersey because if a defender fouls he can be punished for that foul whereas if a forward dives, not only does he not, usually, get punished but the defender can instead.

I agree, there are different 'types' of dives and while I can't see any reason for O'Shea to go to ground at least if there was a clear strong pull of the jersey you could say he was just 'helping' the ref to see the foul. However, I think we have seen way too many examples of really bad diving and it will only get worse if we don't deal with it.

Dont agree Zulu for a start didnt a Tyrone player get a yellow for diving in last years semi, even tho he didnt dive?
Sly fouling and impeding an opponent is the cause of this, the ref doesnt see it so the player goes down to demonstrate to him it is.
Simple question Why is one worse than the other?

I think there is more of a tolerance for it because its always been there, and I even at the pleasure of being coached how to do this at the dark arts academy up here in Tyrone.
Funny thing is tho I often encountered it outside of Tyrone as well, and know I know that these fellas knew how to do it without the aid of the dark arts academy just done it instinctively no coaching required
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2016, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
The tackle is badly defined
The GAA does not use TV evidence
the ref decides everything
the culture of cheating is gaining the upper hand
What does it say about the economy?

Its reached breaking point, the people have had enough and there is going to be a revolution.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 09:09:12 PM
Not sure I follow OJ. I would say off the ball pulling and dragging has reduced and lads are coached to tackle and defend properly more often now. Anyway, are we now saying if defenders foul it's ok for forwards to dive? If so, where does that lead us?

Defenders used to pull the jersey and forwards used to grab a defenders arm and pull him down and while neither are right I think both are short of players diving with minimal contact. If diving becomes the norm then football will become as unwatchable as soccer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 08:28:27 PM

3. Il Bomber and anyone else with a Tyrone persecution complex need to catch themselves on. McCann has copped himself on this year which is good to see, but that dive last year was awful AND is worse than what O'Shea did as it had 1 purpose - to get a man red carded. So Mickey Harte or anyone else moaning about it still is only embarassing themselves.


Not the point.

McCann's may have been the worst dive you will ever see but a dive is a dive.

There has been a huge difference between the way McCann (and Tyrone) are treated when they were out of line compared to everyone else.

When Tyrone step out of line they are savaged, the track record of misdemeanors, including incidents which are hotly contested, last years  incident in the minor game where some horrendous accusations were leveled at two Tyrone minors were proven to be incorrect but it didn't stop people bandying it about.

Dublin, Kerry or Mayo, do not have their litany of transgressions brought out when they cross the line and there is a fairly big list of them too over the past number of years. When it comes to media reporting on the GAA, there is one rule for Tyrone and another rule for everyone else. Certain teams seem to be guarded from any sort of criticism or highlighting of their untoward ways, fair play to Brolly on calling O'Rourke out on his very obvious bias towards Kerry the other week.

The most disgraceful incident I saw in last year's championship was the disgusting attempt from Johnny Cooper to do Diarmuid O'Connor - it barely got a mention, Whelan passing it off as not a big issue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 09:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 09:09:12 PM
Not sure I follow OJ. I would say off the ball pulling and dragging has reduced and lads are coached to tackle and defend properly more often now. Anyway, are we now saying if defenders foul it's ok for forwards to dive? If so, where does that lead us?

Defenders used to pull the jersey and forwards used to grab a defenders arm and pull him down and while neither are right I think both are short of players diving with minimal contact. If diving becomes the norm then football will become as unwatchable as soccer.

Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 13, 2016, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 08:58:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2016, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
The tackle is badly defined
The GAA does not use TV evidence
the ref decides everything
the culture of cheating is gaining the upper hand
What does it say about the economy?

Its reached breaking point, the people have had enough and there is going to be a revolution.

It's the end of the neoliberal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stall the Bailer on July 13, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 02:08:42 PM

DESPITE what some people might have you believe, it's not Aidan O'Shea's responsibility to protect the integrity and the good name of Gaelic football. That's the responsibility of the officials and the administrators.
Aidan O'Shea's responsibility is to his make sure that he does whatever he can for his team, his team-mates, and Mayo.

That's like arguing it isn't your job not to steal from your neighbours, it's the guards job to make sure you don't. In other words an abdication of responsibility for players.
Sorry but I totally disagree with that. It is the responsibility of ever GAA member for the promotion and integrity of our games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 13, 2016, 08:44:49 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 08:28:27 PM
1. Aidan O'Shea's dive is indefensible and any of this "oh it was coming to us" stuff is horsesh*t. I would favour a 2 strike - 1 match ban policy with feigning injury at this point before things get worse and young lads start to think (know?) you can get away with it. If a guy has a once off brainfart and does something stupid, fair enough. If he does it twice in the same year though, 1 match ban.

2. No, Aidan O'Shea is not the first or only player that has done this. Aidan O'Mahony from my own county went down embarassingly in 2008 against Cork (having received a light smack in the face). Don't think he did anything like it again thankfully. There have been many other instances of it. Peter Canavan headbutted Mike McCarthy's arm in 2003 and got him booked in another example.

3. Il Bomber and anyone else with a Tyrone persecution complex need to catch themselves on. McCann has copped himself on this year which is good to see, but that dive last year was awful AND is worse than what O'Shea did as it had 1 purpose - to get a man red carded. So Mickey Harte or anyone else moaning about it still is only embarassing themselves.

4. Where Il Bomber does have a point is that, yes Whelan was a thug who mysteriously avoided around 10 red cards in his career. He isn't the worst analyst in my opinion but yes he's totally biased when it comes to Dubin. I blame RTE for that though. no guy should have anything to do with a game their own county is playing. RTE have this annoying habit of doing just that. Martin Carney co-comentating on Mayo and Donegal games for example (Tommy Carr and himself are insufferable no matter who is playing, "it must be said"  ::) )

Don't forget the King of the Dive - JOD! He though us a thing or two in Limerick in 2014. Not to mention last years Munster final.

You and your lot really need to move on from Reilly-gate, for your own good. And by the way, there was no dive from O'Donoghue in that game, but I suppose there's no point even talking to you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 09:46:30 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on July 13, 2016, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 13, 2016, 08:28:27 PM

3. Il Bomber and anyone else with a Tyrone persecution complex need to catch themselves on. McCann has copped himself on this year which is good to see, but that dive last year was awful AND is worse than what O'Shea did as it had 1 purpose - to get a man red carded. So Mickey Harte or anyone else moaning about it still is only embarassing themselves.


Not the point.

McCann's may have been the worst dive you will ever see but a dive is a dive.

There has been a huge difference between the way McCann (and Tyrone) are treated when they were out of line compared to everyone else.

When Tyrone step out of line they are savaged, the track record of misdemeanors, including incidents which are hotly contested, last years  incident in the minor game where some horrendous accusations were leveled at two Tyrone minors were proven to be incorrect but it didn't stop people bandying it about.

Dublin, Kerry or Mayo, do not have their litany of transgressions brought out when they cross the line and there is a fairly big list of them too over the past number of years. When it comes to media reporting on the GAA, there is one rule for Tyrone and another rule for everyone else. Certain teams seem to be guarded from any sort of criticism or highlighting of their untoward ways, fair play to Brolly on calling O'Rourke out on his very obvious bias towards Kerry the other week.

The most disgraceful incident I saw in last year's championship was the disgusting attempt from Johnny Cooper to do Diarmuid O'Connor - it barely got a mention, Whelan passing it off as not a big issue.

But it IS the point. McCann attempted to get an opponent red carded (successfully). That is the worst type of what we are talking about here. That is much worse than what AOS did although both are disgusting to see. And yes, Tyrone got pilloried last year because they were doing an inordinate amount of acting the Boll*x. Get over it. More than any other team, Dublin included.
THIS year, they have cut nearly all of that out it seems and are better off for it. Concentrating on football, but playing hard and on the edge at the same time. THAT is absolutely to be lauded, so i don't get Mickey going back into last year's instances, moaning about McNulty looking for a penalty against Kerry etc.

I guess everyone is going to stand up for their own county and I wouldn't expect any Tyrone fan to contradict Harte much, so not expecting you to agree with me, but it doesn't really matter that much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2016, 10:03:38 PM
What would Meath of the late 80`s make of these bunch of pussy foot cheaters and pansies that lie down now a day from slightest contact, they've re a blight on the gaa,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on July 13, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 02:08:42 PM

DESPITE what some people might have you believe, it's not Aidan O'Shea's responsibility to protect the integrity and the good name of Gaelic football. That's the responsibility of the officials and the administrators.
Aidan O'Shea's responsibility is to his make sure that he does whatever he can for his team, his team-mates, and Mayo.

That's like arguing it isn't your job not to steal from your neighbours, it's the guards job to make sure you don't. In other words an abdication of responsibility for players.
Sorry but I totally disagree with that. It is the responsibility of ever GAA member for the promotion and integrity of our games.

I agree 100%, the above is a quote from Billy Joe Padden.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 09:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 09:09:12 PM
Not sure I follow OJ. I would say off the ball pulling and dragging has reduced and lads are coached to tackle and defend properly more often now. Anyway, are we now saying if defenders foul it's ok for forwards to dive? If so, where does that lead us?

Defenders used to pull the jersey and forwards used to grab a defenders arm and pull him down and while neither are right I think both are short of players diving with minimal contact. If diving becomes the norm then football will become as unwatchable as soccer.

Why?

Well I certainly agree the forward grabbing the arm is very annoying and pulling a jersey is a foul but they would fall under the 'cute' category that exists in all contact sports I imagine. They can also both be punished if caught whereas diving is simply cheating in a way that reflects poorly on the sport, makes the game more difficult to ref and often results in the wrong player getting punished.

If you push a guy in the back to get the ball you are technically cheating to gain an advantage but to me that is not comparable to diving, likewise pulling a jersey or a defenders arm. If it is for you then fair enough but if a kid takes a bar of chocolate and a stockbroker takes peoples pensions both are technically stealing but only one is shamefully.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on July 13, 2016, 10:59:18 PM
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Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.

The Derry men don't like having to abide by their own high standards and moral  compass.

That video is completely ambiguous. Totally unlike mccanns pathetic and disgusting play acting.


It's not like McCann but it's not quite 'the poor fella got two fingers/a poke in the eye and had to crouch down to deal with it'. A dive is a dive, if you watch the game you'll probably see Conor Laverty (and undoubtedly other Down players) falling over at the slightest of touches, just as there were plenty of Derry men doing it that day. Just because it wasn't as bad as McCann's doesn't mean it's something you can defend.

I'll have to disagree with you there. I'm not saying that A Derry player has never dived but in this case it isn't clear cut as we can't see the incident all that clearly and there is substantial enough contact. Also Lynn only crouches down afterwards.


The point of the posters that defended Lynn in this incident said that he was poked in the eye and went down - which would be a sort of natural reaction to getting poked in the eye. The video is conclusive that he was not poked in the eye. There is no need to go down - crouched or not -  from the contact made by the Down player in this video.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 06:30:38 AM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 13, 2016, 09:15:59 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 13, 2016, 09:09:12 PM
Not sure I follow OJ. I would say off the ball pulling and dragging has reduced and lads are coached to tackle and defend properly more often now. Anyway, are we now saying if defenders foul it's ok for forwards to dive? If so, where does that lead us?

Defenders used to pull the jersey and forwards used to grab a defenders arm and pull him down and while neither are right I think both are short of players diving with minimal contact. If diving becomes the norm then football will become as unwatchable as soccer.

Why?

Well I certainly agree the forward grabbing the arm is very annoying and pulling a jersey is a foul but they would fall under the 'cute' category that exists in all contact sports I imagine. They can also both be punished if caught whereas diving is simply cheating in a way that reflects poorly on the sport, makes the game more difficult to ref and often results in the wrong player getting punished.

If you push a guy in the back to get the ball you are technically cheating to gain an advantage but to me that is not comparable to diving, likewise pulling a jersey or a defenders arm. If it is for you then fair enough but if a kid takes a bar of chocolate and a stockbroker takes peoples pensions both are technically stealing but only one is shamefully.

So the level of "cuteness" means that diving is worse? How do you define cuteness anyway? Why is diving not cute? If you are doing something that is deliberately against the rules to gain an advantage is there any difference in the "severity"?

I believe the difference is that diving is a display, so its obvious and that's why it annoys us. No one sees a jersey pull, its supposed to be hidden thats the whole purpose of it. However a dive is supposed to be seen by the referee so it has to be obvious, and when its theatrical we get annoyed at it because it is so bloody obvious that its simulation. However that does not make it worse than the sly jersey pull, in fact maybe even less so, as with simulation the act is all on display for everyone to see so perhaps its maybe even a more honest way of cheating?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on July 14, 2016, 08:00:59 AM
Only in a Tyrone man's head would a jersey tug be worse than a dive
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 14, 2016, 08:52:01 AM
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Lynn clearly got fingers in the eye. He went down on wan knee to recover the hit.

He did not intentionally get the fella the line. Poor decision by referee.


Tyrone supporters are a bunch of b**tards.

Is it possible to like a team and hate their supporters. I am starting to warm to the players; but no chance the supporters, although rrhf, O'Neill and the strabane lads are funny feckers.

Lynn intentionally dived, call a spade a spade.

Derry have had a few divers, the most obvious example was in 06 in Healey Park when Hinphey got Hub Hughes sent off for very little. The younger Bradley was very fond of pulling the defenders arm in as well. However, Lynn didn't dive or even look for action against his man, he got a poke in the eye and sat down on his hunkers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WutruR79Wcs


His eye is clearly in a different part of his face to everyone else in the world.

The Derry men don't like having to abide by their own high standards and moral  compass.

That video is completely ambiguous. Totally unlike mccanns pathetic and disgusting play acting.


It's not like McCann but it's not quite 'the poor fella got two fingers/a poke in the eye and had to crouch down to deal with it'. A dive is a dive, if you watch the game you'll probably see Conor Laverty (and undoubtedly other Down players) falling over at the slightest of touches, just as there were plenty of Derry men doing it that day. Just because it wasn't as bad as McCann's doesn't mean it's something you can defend.

I'll have to disagree with you there. I'm not saying that A Derry player has never dived but in this case it isn't clear cut as we can't see the incident all that clearly and there is substantial enough contact. Also Lynn only crouches down afterwards.


The point of the posters that defended Lynn in this incident said that he was poked in the eye and went down - which would be a sort of natural reaction to getting poked in the eye. The video is conclusive that he was not poked in the eye. There is no need to go down - crouched or not -  from the contact made by the Down player in this video.

Once again I still disagree. From the footage we see it doesn't look like there is contact around his eye but as the footage begins his hand is already in contact with Lynn and we cannot say for sure that in the instant previous his hand hasn't made contact around the eye area. Having said that when you look at it again it is a strong hand into the adams apple area which could give anybody an excuse to crouch down on one knee. It's the kind of situation which would never have been mentioned again if the down player hadn't been incorrectly sent off. It's a clear yellow card offence but definitely not a red. That again is a clear difference in the mccann incident where hughes didn't deserve any kind of punishment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 14, 2016, 09:06:14 AM
Cuteness is cynical fouling done by Kerry, Dublin or Galway players ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 04:38:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 14, 2016, 08:00:59 AM
Only in a Tyrone man's head would a jersey tug be worse than a dive
Not all Tyrone men. ;)

In order or worseness the things that annoy me are....

1) Dives
2) Cynical fouling close to goal to stop goal chances
3) Cynical fouling outside the 45 to stop attacks outside of the comfortable free taking range
4) Goading players to try to get them to react and get them sent off
5) Time wasting
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 14, 2016, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 04:38:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 14, 2016, 08:00:59 AM
Only in a Tyrone man's head would a jersey tug be worse than a dive
Not all Tyrone men. ;)

In order or worseness the things that annoy me are....

1) Dives
2) Cynical fouling close to goal to stop goal chances
3) Cynical fouling outside the 45 to stop attacks outside of the comfortable free taking range
4) Goading players to try to get them to react and get them sent off
5) Time wasting

Alright, fess up. Who leaked the Tyrone u-6 coaching directive to you?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 14, 2016, 04:54:31 PM

Alright, fess up. Who leaked the Tyrone u-6 coaching directive to you?

Did I give too much away? Fecking noobies!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 05:44:52 PM
Right lads I explained my reasoning why a jersey tug might be considered worse ( I didnt even say that it was what i thought)

However no one seems to be able to explain why a dive is the worse than other forms of gamesmanship.

So can someone explain why dives are worse than sneaky jersey pulls, if they are worse it should be a simple enough explanation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 05:55:12 PM
Because contact is part of the game, pulling a jersey sometimes is an automatic or even accidental thing a player does in the heat of the moment. A dive is not, it's a sneaky thing that only a certain type of player/person will do.

It's the most obvious and clear form of cheating. Comparing it to a jersey pull is kinda like comparing it to claiming a 45 when you know your not due one. One is gamesmanship, the other if cheating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on July 14, 2016, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 05:55:12 PM
Because contact is part of the game, pulling a jersey sometimes is an automatic or even accidental thing a player does in the heat of the moment. A dive is not, it's a sneaky thing that only a certain type of player/person will do.

It's the most obvious and clear form of cheating. Comparing it to a jersey pull is kinda like comparing it to claiming a 45 when you know your not due one. One is gamesmanship, the other if cheating.

x2.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 14, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
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3. Il Bomber and anyone else with a Tyrone persecution complex need to catch themselves on. McCann has copped himself on this year which is good to see, but that dive last year was awful AND is worse than what O'Shea did as it had 1 purpose - to get a man red carded. So Mickey Harte or anyone else moaning about it still is only embarassing themselves.


Not the point.

McCann's may have been the worst dive you will ever see but a dive is a dive.

There has been a huge difference between the way McCann (and Tyrone) are treated when they were out of line compared to everyone else.

When Tyrone step out of line they are savaged, the track record of misdemeanors, including incidents which are hotly contested, last years  incident in the minor game where some horrendous accusations were leveled at two Tyrone minors were proven to be incorrect but it didn't stop people bandying it about.

Dublin, Kerry or Mayo, do not have their litany of transgressions brought out when they cross the line and there is a fairly big list of them too over the past number of years. When it comes to media reporting on the GAA, there is one rule for Tyrone and another rule for everyone else. Certain teams seem to be guarded from any sort of criticism or highlighting of their untoward ways, fair play to Brolly on calling O'Rourke out on his very obvious bias towards Kerry the other week.

The most disgraceful incident I saw in last year's championship was the disgusting attempt from Johnny Cooper to do Diarmuid O'Connor - it barely got a mention, Whelan passing it off as not a big issue.

But it IS the point. McCann attempted to get an opponent red carded (successfully). That is the worst type of what we are talking about here. That is much worse than what AOS did although both are disgusting to see. And yes, Tyrone got pilloried last year because they were doing an inordinate amount of acting the Boll*x. Get over it. More than any other team, Dublin included.
THIS year, they have cut nearly all of that out it seems and are better off for it. Concentrating on football, but playing hard and on the edge at the same time. THAT is absolutely to be lauded, so i don't get Mickey going back into last year's instances, moaning about McNulty looking for a penalty against Kerry etc.

I guess everyone is going to stand up for their own county and I wouldn't expect any Tyrone fan to contradict Harte much, so not expecting you to agree with me, but it doesn't really matter that much.

Yes, I don't argue with McCann's flak.

I do argue with the complete inconsistency with the flak given out to McCann than that to other players who did the exact same thing.

Did anyone call for O'Mahoney to get a ban or to come out and make a public apology and he did the same thing McCann did and was also successful in it? No.

Did anyone call for Aidan O'Shea to make a public apology or call for him to be banned after he tried to get Pascal McConnell sent off in an All Ireland semi-final? No they didn't, in fact it wasn't even commented on. Move along, nothing to see here.

The fact is O'Shea is a guy with previous in this respect, if fair was fair and consistency was in operation he would have been savaged like Tiernan McCann was. He wasn't, we had the RTE regulars trying to excuse him for cheating, again, which is in direct contrast to how McCann was hung out to dry.

The major problem Tyrone people have is not in the way McCann was savaged last year for his actions. I think we all agree they were embarrassing and he was out of order, it is in the way Tyrone seem to be the only team who come under the intense scrutiny and criticism in this regard.

Do you honestly think McCann's dive was worse than Johnny Cooper trying to do Diarmuid O'Connor last year, an incident that was barely commented on last year? If a Tyrone player had done what Cooper did, there would have been uproar and calls for a huge ban. The inconsistency when it comes to the media portrayal Tyrone and the likes of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry is evident and your head is buried firmly in the sand if you can't see it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 05:44:52 PM
Right lads I explained my reasoning why a jersey tug might be considered worse ( I didnt even say that it was what i thought)

However no one seems to be able to explain why a dive is the worse than other forms of gamesmanship.

So can someone explain why dives are worse than sneaky jersey pulls, if they are worse it should be a simple enough explanation.

Which is worse, punching a man in the face or having an affair with his wife?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 06:42:41 PM


Which is worse, punching a man in the face or having an affair with his wife?

Depends on the wife.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 06:48:06 PM
How is pulling someone's jersey part of the game? How is it an automatic action? You have to grab and pull or hold, its deliberate.
A deliberate and illegal form of gaining an advantage, its cheating, not gamemanship. And because its not clear and obvious doesnt that actually make it worse than more obvious forms of cheating?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 14, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
OJ, you're on your own here I'm afraid. The argument you're putting forward could be done (and I have) for stealing - a child stealing a bar of chocolate verses someone robbing a bank/person or any number of other things, driving over the speed limit for example. Can you explain to me why a child who steals a bar of chocolate shouldn't go to jail while someone who robs a bank should? Or perhaps you feel they both should be viewed the same?

A jersey pull is a foul and is often punished by the referee. Fouling is part of all contact sports and have been from the first time they were played. Diving is cheating and was not always part of the game. As with the examples above, you can get into the nitty gritty of what is different between a jersey pull and a dive, both are wrong but they are not the same.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 14, 2016, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 14, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
OJ, you're on your own here I'm afraid. The argument you're putting forward could be done (and I have) for stealing - a child stealing a bar of chocolate verses someone robbing a bank/person or any number of other things, driving over the speed limit for example. Can you explain to me why a child who steals a bar of chocolate shouldn't go to jail while someone who robs a bank should? Or perhaps you feel they both should be viewed the same?

A jersey pull is a foul and is often punished by the referee. Fouling is part of all contact sports and have been from the first time they were played. Diving is cheating and was not always part of the game. As with the examples above, you can get into the nitty gritty of what is different between a jersey pull and a dive, both are wrong but they are not the same.


Really what you are saying if a child dives it's alright, If an Adult does, its not. Pulling Jerseys to get advantage is ok! It's always been done! Diving is a new phenomenal! By new do you mean it has only happen in the last 40 years? I remember Pat Spillane diving in the 1978 AI final! Cheating to get an advantage is cheating whether it is trying to get a score or stop a score. Which was worse the Cavanagh incident v Monaghan or the O'Shea incident the last day? They are exactly the same. They both cheated to gain a possible three point advantage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 09:07:25 PM
Pretty much nailed it Bunker and aparently Im not the sole dissenting voice either....your wrong about one thing tho... Cavanagh's was way worse simply because Joe Brolly had a mouth frothing session over it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:21:51 PM
Nah Cavanagh's was no where near as bad. If you're going to say that then pretty much every pull, drag, intentional foul in the game is worse than someone diving to get a penalty. That's a nonsense.

You could argue that McCann's was worse because he was trying to get a man sent off, but for me a dive for a penalty is always the worst kind of cheating in a game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Zulu on July 14, 2016, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 14, 2016, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: Zulu on July 14, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
OJ, you're on your own here I'm afraid. The argument you're putting forward could be done (and I have) for stealing - a child stealing a bar of chocolate verses someone robbing a bank/person or any number of other things, driving over the speed limit for example. Can you explain to me why a child who steals a bar of chocolate shouldn't go to jail while someone who robs a bank should? Or perhaps you feel they both should be viewed the same?

A jersey pull is a foul and is often punished by the referee. Fouling is part of all contact sports and have been from the first time they were played. Diving is cheating and was not always part of the game. As with the examples above, you can get into the nitty gritty of what is different between a jersey pull and a dive, both are wrong but they are not the same.


Really what you are saying if a child dives it's alright, If an Adult does, its not. Pulling Jerseys to get advantage is ok! It's always been done! Diving is a new phenomenal! By new do you mean it has only happen in the last 40 years? I remember Pat Spillane diving in the 1978 AI final! Cheating to get an advantage is cheating whether it is trying to get a score or stop a score. Which was worse the Cavanagh incident v Monaghan or the O'Shea incident the last day? They are exactly the same. They both cheated to gain a possible three point advantage!

I presume your first line is very much tongue in cheek. You're both entitled to your opinion but if the majority of Gaa supporters ever view diving as the same as pulling a jersey then I'd genuinely dispare for the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 09:34:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

Precisely...

Brian Dooher getting himself stood on by Martin O'Connell
Peter Canavan getting himself blindsided by JOhn McDermot
Martin Sludden awarding Joe Sheridan a try
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 14, 2016, 09:35:39 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.
Mick Lyons woulf have thé other 2
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

All Ireland Champions 2003
All Ireland Champions 2005
All Ireland Champions 2008

Coming down here, taking our championships??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 14, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

All Ireland Champions 2003
All Ireland Champions 2005
All Ireland Champions 2008

Coming down here, taking our championships??

Leave him alone, he's pitifully conflicted: before his lads kicked the winning of those All-Irelands into us in 1996 (for which we'll be eternally grateful), we'd never have been near the top of any of his lists, not even the "plucky nordie perennial loser list" ;)

And he's quite immune to biting, stamping, gouging, etc., it seems we really have messed with his mind! :)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 14, 2016, 10:49:23 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 14, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

All Ireland Champions 2003
All Ireland Champions 2005
All Ireland Champions 2008

Coming down here, taking our championships??

Leave him alone, he's pitifully conflicted: before his lads kicked the winning of those All-Irelands into us in 1996 (for which we'll be eternally grateful), we'd never have been near the top of any of his lists, not even the "plucky nordie perennial loser list" ;)

And he's quite immune to biting, stamping, gouging, etc., it seems we really have messed with his mind! :)

DO you ever get the impression that he somehow thinks Tyrone are to blame for Meath shitness, but he cant quite attach one to the next?

It would be an extra bonus if you could confirm this Jinxy ;)

But I suppose someone has to take up the mantle now that Main St has gone into his shell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 15, 2016, 09:44:56 AM
Careful Joe not to wake Main St. He's just waiting to meet us later in the 1/4 finals so they can teach us a lesson.
You might have a point though OJ.
For years Meath and Cork were in the top 5 teams but they seem to have been replaced now with nouveau riche cheats.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 15, 2016, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

All Ireland Champions 2003
All Ireland Champions 2005
All Ireland Champions 2008

Coming down here, taking our championships??
Throne would have won Sam way earlier without NI being around . Big population, no other sports in competition, sense of being ignored...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 15, 2016, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:21:51 PM
Nah Cavanagh's was no where near as bad. If you're going to say that then pretty much every pull, drag, intentional foul in the game is worse than someone diving to get a penalty. That's a nonsense.

You could argue that McCann's was worse because he was trying to get a man sent off, but for me a dive for a penalty is always the worst kind of cheating in a game.

It's hard to create a hierarchy of cheating in any game I think. Saying that, if I was a Fermanagh man, I would probably agree with you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on July 15, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 15, 2016, 09:59:22 AM
Quote from: Jayop on July 14, 2016, 09:21:51 PM
Nah Cavanagh's was no where near as bad. If you're going to say that then pretty much every pull, drag, intentional foul in the game is worse than someone diving to get a penalty. That's a nonsense.

You could argue that McCann's was worse because he was trying to get a man sent off, but for me a dive for a penalty is always the worst kind of cheating in a game.

It's hard to create a hierarchy of cheating in any game I think. Saying that, if I was a Fermanagh man, I would probably agree with you.
The idea though that O'Shea has gotten off light from RTE is nonsense, can you remember a single scenario before where an opposing manager was shown a specific incident after a match and asked to comment on it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on July 16, 2016, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 14, 2016, 09:26:34 PM
If you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

They would have at least 12 men around those three places.  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 17, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Surely RTE can think of a way to put hurling on first again tonight?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 17, 2016, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 17, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Surely RTE can think of a way to put hurling on first again tonight?

They'll show extended highlights of the games covered live instead. And show minute and a half highlights of the rest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ashman on July 17, 2016, 09:50:52 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 17, 2016, 09:19:55 PM
Surely RTE can think of a way to put hurling on first again tonight?

Should have shown the camogie .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 17, 2016, 10:54:56 PM
Des bottles asking Plámás if the championship structure favours them (Kerry)!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 17, 2016, 11:21:51 PM
If you are complaining about Donnelly black card today just look at the one given to James Kielt in the Derry, Cavan game, shocking decision.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 17, 2016, 11:24:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2016, 10:54:56 PM
Des bottles asking Plámás if the championship structure favours them (Kerry)!

The other Dessie said it for him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2016, 11:29:54 PM
TSG should give one show to Tyrone to explain the conspiracy theory to the nation. Mickey Harte could be seated behind a green curtain issuing instructions. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Sean Cavanagh takes RTE Man of the Match award... you either boycott them or you don't - hypocrital. Obviously told not to speak
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on July 18, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Sean Cavanagh takes RTE Man of the Match award... you either boycott them or you don't - hypocrital. Obviously told not to speak

Not wanting to burst the bubble on another crass act of Tyrone dastardliness, but perhaps Sean was just being polite?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sensethetone on July 18, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 18, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Sean Cavanagh takes RTE Man of the Match award... you either boycott them or you don't - hypocrital. Obviously told not to speak

Not wanting to burst the bubble on another crass act of Tyrone dastardliness, but perhaps Sean was just being polite?
I think he was just being polite to the guy presenting  MOTM award.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyboard Warrior on July 18, 2016, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2016, 11:29:54 PM
TSG should give one show to Tyrone to explain the conspiracy theory to the nation. Mickey Harte could be seated behind a green curtain issuing instructions.

Why not devote a show to flogging a selection of Tyrone players on the street. That'd be good, wouldn't it?
Cheeky bastards have some neck on them; winning matches and choosing not to speak to someone (Do they think they're allowed to step outside the norm?! Again, bastard action).

Maybe they should be forced to wear helmets and play Kilkenny in the hurling; that'd bring them down a peg or too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 18, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 18, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Sean Cavanagh takes RTE Man of the Match award... you either boycott them or you don't - hypocrital. Obviously told not to speak

Not wanting to burst the bubble on another crass act of Tyrone dastardliness, but perhaps Sean was just being polite?
I think he was just being polite to the guy presenting  MOTM award.

Oh!  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:51:04 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 18, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 18, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Sean Cavanagh takes RTE Man of the Match award... you either boycott them or you don't - hypocrital. Obviously told not to speak

Not wanting to burst the bubble on another crass act of Tyrone dastardliness, but perhaps Sean was just being polite?
I think he was just being polite to the guy presenting  MOTM award.

Oh!  :)  seems a contradiction but there you go...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sensethetone on July 18, 2016, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:51:04 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 18, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Keyboard Warrior on July 18, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Sean Cavanagh takes RTE Man of the Match award... you either boycott them or you don't - hypocrital. Obviously told not to speak

Not wanting to burst the bubble on another crass act of Tyrone dastardliness, but perhaps Sean was just being polite?
I think he was just being polite to the guy presenting  MOTM award.

Oh!  :)  seems a contradiction but there you go...
It wasn't RTE presenting the award, why not?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 18, 2016, 03:18:22 PM
it was the RTE MOM award... all duck or no dinner
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: StGallsGAA on July 18, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
QuoteIf you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field, if you were to list off the top 5 most dastardly acts to ever take place on a football field,Tyrone players would occupy at least three places.

Might these be the 3 times Mickey Harte handed you your filthy, unwashed Kerry ar$€holes on a plate?    And since when did bogmen use words like 'dastardly'?  Away back into your cottage and weave a basket for your swamp donkey.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 31, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
RTE should rename this The Brolly Game. Constantly interrupting others, and butting in while others are talking which is annoying and lead you to lose track of what you're saying. As soon as someone has finished, he's straight in talking, with the hint of yes I hear you but what I have to say is more important. The mute button will be getting plenty of use today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on July 31, 2016, 01:58:07 PM
Michael Lyster passes over to Get Canning and Tommy Carr.......first thing ger says is "we are shaking our heads at the prospect ahead".........summed up the thoughts of most viewers I would have thought............
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 31, 2016, 02:05:13 PM
Ger +TOM + half-empty stadium + potentially one-sided game = the perfect storm of boredom and bewilderment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 31, 2016, 02:35:43 PM
Is Ger Canning just back from Lanzarote or something?
He's obsessed with beach balls today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 31, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
I wish the GPA would use the nutritional expenses money to buy a nosebag for Ger and free up the space for someone else. The format of the competition is stale but Ger is worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 31, 2016, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 31, 2016, 03:07:31 PM
I wish the GPA would use the nutritional expenses money to buy a nosebag for Ger and free up the space for someone else. The format of the competition is stale but Ger is worse.

Don't often agree with seafoid but this time I will.... Stale is an understatement
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 31, 2016, 03:50:08 PM
Darragh Maloney is back!
About time.
I can un-mute the telly now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 31, 2016, 03:58:06 PM
I thought it was obvious that Colm & Joe were laughing about something that was said during the break.
People are gone fierce sensitive altogether.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 31, 2016, 04:24:04 PM
Galway have a contest on their hands, to be sure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on July 31, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Most of HT break taken up by news, are RTE for real? Would that happen on sky? Rights should be taken off them
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 31, 2016, 05:22:22 PM
I enjoyed Nuacht I have to say.
Title: 6-00
Post by: drici on July 31, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 18, 2016, 03:18:22 PM

it was the RTE MOM award... all duck or no dinner


Ah - was meant to run in the last race at Galway - unshipped the rider at the start.
Mountain Rock wins at 10/1.
That's the Festival over for another year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2016, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 31, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Most of HT break taken up by news, are RTE for real? Would that happen on sky? Rights should be taken off them
Said that to my dad too after watching Mayo v Kildare. I know people have to pay extra and that's a shame.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 31, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 31, 2016, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 31, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Most of HT break taken up by news, are RTE for real? Would that happen on sky? Rights should be taken off them
Said that to my dad too after watching Mayo v Kildare. I know people have to pay extra and that's a shame.

aye means people dont get to opportunity to complain about what they say during that time  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 31, 2016, 10:36:45 PM
Quote from: sambostar on July 31, 2016, 05:19:11 PM
Most of HT break taken up by news, are RTE for real? Would that happen on sky? Rights should be taken off them

Good idea, I thought. At least there was less of Brolly!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on August 04, 2016, 01:14:03 AM
Just watched it from Sunday. Cliche city, and Tomas and Dessie are co-mayors.
God they are really brutal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 04, 2016, 10:32:19 PM
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
Change the record please, Tomás.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 05, 2016, 06:51:19 AM
 
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2016, 10:32:19 PM
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
Change the record please, Tomás.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on August 05, 2016, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 05, 2016, 06:51:19 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 04, 2016, 10:32:19 PM
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
"Lookit Des, I suppose..."
Change the record please, Tomás.
;D ;D ;D

He's been on the show, long enough now, you'd think that it would have occurred to one of the producers to tell him to start his sentences like a normal human being. 'Coz it's annoying as fcuk for the viewer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on August 07, 2016, 07:35:14 AM
Somewhere online to watch the highlIghts would be nice now, for those of us abroad. It's pretty normal thing to have nowadays is if not? It should be on the GAA website.  A two minute highlight video of every game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ashman on August 07, 2016, 08:47:16 AM
A highlights show last night would have been great .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on August 07, 2016, 11:36:34 AM
This year ive seen Saturday game with hour post match anslysis of nothing games like Mayo v Fermanagh or Wexford v Offaly in hurling. Nuacht is part of sunday game now. Next week we have a doubleheader of camogie live . Yesterday we had the best doubleheader of the year and nothing about it on RTE. I like Skys coverage but RTE should cover some of it on the day. RTE could throw up a midweek hour as well with decent highlights if they were serious about GAA. Wont even mention Tom Carr or the rest of them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 07, 2016, 02:05:36 PM
The coverage would have been agreed at the start of the year so RTE could hardly just wade in and say that we're taking our pick. The reason the mismatch occurred was mayo getting beat in provincials and Clare and Tipp causing upsets, this skewed the QFs. Just happened to be bad luck for RTE and everyone that didn't have access to Sky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 07, 2016, 09:20:55 PM
Anybody remember the Game on Monday? I have vague recollections of it back in 1996,1997 era. I think it focused on the highlights of what wasn't shown of the games the night before. As I said vague memories. I was only 9/10 at the time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2016, 09:28:25 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 07, 2016, 09:20:55 PM
Anybody remember the Game on Monday? I have vague recollections of it back in 1996,1997 era. I think it focused on the highlights of what wasn't shown of the games the night before. As I said vague memories. I was only 9/10 at the time.

It was around in '99 too - remember (for some strange reason) watching highlights of Westmeath v Carlow and Ger Heavin scoring a heap of points
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 07, 2016, 10:54:27 PM
Are Aaron and Tomas in the Ladybird reading club or what?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:01:02 PM
Did O'Se say that Cavanaghs second yellow wasn't a yellow?

Aidan O'Shea great footballer but I can't stand the way he goes on!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 07, 2016, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:01:02 PM
Did O'Se say that Cavanaghs second yellow wasn't a yellow?

Aidan O'Shea great footballer but I can't stand the way he goes on!

You mean him playing a blinder against your team? That would be annoying alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2016, 11:41:14 PM
Aidan O Se is a showman alright but he is never anything less than entertaining and always creates loads of talking points after a game, whether good or bad. Serious skill for a big bruiser.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 07, 2016, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 07, 2016, 11:03:02 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:01:02 PM
Did O'Se say that Cavanaghs second yellow wasn't a yellow?

Aidan O'Shea great footballer but I can't stand the way he goes on!

You mean him playing a blinder against your team? That would be annoying alright.

the old waving the card trick to the ref just winds me up anyway. Between that and the constant diving he wouldn't be on my christmas list.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:52:34 PM
Yeah great player - wish we had him on Tyrone team minus all the bullshit he brings!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 08, 2016, 12:12:59 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:52:34 PM
Yeah great player - wish we had him on Tyrone team minus all the bullshit he brings!

Adding AOS to Tyrone would mean a net decrease in diving and card waving!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 08, 2016, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 07, 2016, 02:05:36 PM
The coverage would have been agreed at the start of the year so RTE could hardly just wade in and say that we're taking our pick. The reason the mismatch occurred was mayo getting beat in provincials and Clare and Tipp causing upsets, this skewed the QFs. Just happened to be bad luck for RTE and everyone that didn't have access to Sky.


I think it was agreed 3 years ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.

It's a tad depressing when your own county is so irrelevant that the only delight you can gain from the GAA is in the defeat of another county.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.

It's a tad depressing when your own county is so irrelevant that the only delight you can gain from the GAA is in the defeat of another county.
I don't lose any sleep over it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.

It's a tad depressing when your own county is so irrelevant that the only delight you can gain from the GAA is in the defeat of another county.
I don't lose any sleep over it.

But you are "delighted". Enjoy your big moment!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.

It's a tad depressing when your own county is so irrelevant that the only delight you can gain from the GAA is in the defeat of another county.
I don't lose any sleep over it.

But you are "delighted". Enjoy your big moment!
I don't lose any sleep over Laois being shite.
I'm delighted ye smug pricks were beaten.
Simples.
If ye were playing Dublin I'd probably have wanted ye to win though  ;D
Have a nice day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 08, 2016, 08:59:18 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 08, 2016, 12:12:59 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:52:34 PM
Yeah great player - wish we had him on Tyrone team minus all the bullshit he brings!

Adding AOS to Tyrone would mean a net decrease in diving and card waving!

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 08, 2016, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?


He plays for Dublin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Aristocrat on August 08, 2016, 09:04:48 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 08, 2016, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?


He plays for Dublin.

Exactly, referees are more inclined to card Dublin players to even it out, its a subconscious decision fuelled by the rhetoric from the Country.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ludermor on August 08, 2016, 09:11:07 AM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:52:34 PM
Yeah great player - wish we had him on Tyrone team minus all the bullshit he brings!
Yeah he would be really out of place on team of such paragons of virtue!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 09:23:57 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.

It's a tad depressing when your own county is so irrelevant that the only delight you can gain from the GAA is in the defeat of another county.
I don't lose any sleep over it.

But you are "delighted". Enjoy your big moment!
I don't lose any sleep over Laois being shite.
I'm delighted ye smug pricks were beaten.
Simples.
If ye were playing Dublin I'd probably have wanted ye to win though  ;D
Have a nice day.

I usually only get "delighted" about my own team winning, but I suppose different strokes for different folks. I hope you enjoyed your big weekend.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 09:27:42 AM
What was the story with that full back? He looked like he could be a decent footballer, but every time he did *anything* of note, or more often if Aidan O'Shea made a mistake, he was going buck mad roaring and shouting and sneering. It was like he was trying to channel Ricey, but wasn't half as good at it. Who is he?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 09:23:57 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 08, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Quote from: laoislad on August 08, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2016, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: WT4E on August 07, 2016, 11:11:31 PM
Yeah that plus other stuff!

Diving to beat Fermanagh
Getting last years manager the sack
Trying to get Cavanagh sent off when it was slightly missed timed tackle
milking the media after the game for pics etc.

Enjoying this! :)

Are the tymoanies a bit bitter........... ;D
I was delighted to see the smug fcukers beaten.

It's a tad depressing when your own county is so irrelevant that the only delight you can gain from the GAA is in the defeat of another county.
I don't lose any sleep over it.

But you are "delighted". Enjoy your big moment!
I don't lose any sleep over Laois being shite.
I'm delighted ye smug pricks were beaten.
Simples.
If ye were playing Dublin I'd probably have wanted ye to win though  ;D
Have a nice day.

I usually only get "delighted" about my own team winning, but I suppose different strokes for different folks. I hope you enjoyed your big weekend.
I had a lovely weekend thanks.
How was yours?

(http://i.imgur.com/eZqHk28.png)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 08, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.
It was a s soft a red card as you will see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 09:49:57 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on August 08, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.
It was a s soft a red card as you will see.

It was very soft, but it was a strike. We had this before. If you are sent off for striking (i.e. if the ref thinks it merited a red card) and you did strike, even with open hand, it's going to be hard to overturn.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 10:02:16 AM
Murphy should have been red. It was dangerous, reckless and closed fist.

O'Gara's was very soft, by by the rules he 'struck', so I can't see it being overturned.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 08, 2016, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 10:02:16 AM
Murphy should have been red. It was dangerous, reckless and closed fist.

O'Gara's was very soft, by by the rules he 'struck', so I can't see it being overturned.
Like Connollys a few years ago?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 08, 2016, 10:05:18 AM
surely even the word strike indicates some Violent intention , unless he was stroking Tiarnan McCanns hair O'Gara action would not have hurt a fly .
other wise every time a player put his hand on another players back it would be a red card as the rules do not specify any part of the body either. not to mention all the pushing that goes on in schemozzles .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 10:07:30 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on August 08, 2016, 10:04:06 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 10:02:16 AM
Murphy should have been red. It was dangerous, reckless and closed fist.

O'Gara's was very soft, by by the rules he 'struck', so I can't see it being overturned.
Like Connollys a few years ago?

Exactly. Except that was overturned because he 'didn't have time to prepare his defence' if I recall correctly. Not because it wasn't a strike.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.
Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 08, 2016, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 09:27:42 AM
What was the story with that full back? He looked like he could be a decent footballer, but every time he did *anything* of note, or more often if Aidan O'Shea made a mistake, he was going buck mad roaring and shouting and sneering. It was like he was trying to channel Ricey, but wasn't half as good at it. Who is he?

Ronan McNamee is a good footballer and can play a good bit when further up the field. It's a pity our full back line (outside of Aiden McCrory) don't let their football do the talking after winning a duel rather than a gutteral roar in the opponents face. Wish that shite was cut out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on August 08, 2016, 10:33:37 AM
McNamees behaviour only embarrassed himself
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 08, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.
Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

I really cant agree that it technically a correct one , other wise all contact would come into the same category and with out getting all Frank murphy these are Dictionary definitions of Strike
iCant really see where o garas action are defined here .
Though it would be cool to be sanctioned for smiting

1. to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2. to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3. to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together.
4. to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5. to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6. to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.

7. (of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast: 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.
Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Donncha Walsh if memory serves me right, but I didn't think that was a red either. Walsh made the most of that.

Strictly by the rule book it could be deemed a red but common sense should prevail sometimes otherwise the game becomes completely sanitised where any little 'contact' becomes a foul. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: five points on August 08, 2016, 10:52:20 AM
Quote

Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Quote
I really cant agree that it technically a correct one , other wise all contact would come into the same category and with out getting all Frank murphy these are Dictionary definitions of Strike
iCant really see where o garas action are defined here .
Though it would be cool to be sanctioned for smiting

1. to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2. to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3. to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together.
4. to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5. to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6. to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.

7. (of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast:

Reminds me of Kevin Keane's infamous red v Donegal which was overturned a few years ago. Keane undoubtedly touched Murphy's face with his hand but with no force whatsoever and it didn't constitute a "striking" action.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 08, 2016, 11:03:20 AM
Many Red Cards are BS and alomost all double yellow cards are BS.

A double Yellow resulting in a red card is a joke.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 08, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.
Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Donncha Walsh if memory serves me right, but I didn't think that was a red either. Walsh made the most of that.

Strictly by the rule book it could be deemed a red but common sense should prevail sometimes otherwise the game becomes completely sanitised where any little 'contact' becomes a foul.

Walsh was the designated 'get him sent off by throwing a tantrum' man. We learned from the best.

He was the one doing this:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/14clWZvEUxxH7q/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 08, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.
Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

I really cant agree that it technically a correct one , other wise all contact would come into the same category and with out getting all Frank murphy these are Dictionary definitions of Strike
iCant really see where o garas action are defined here .
Though it would be cool to be sanctioned for smiting

1. to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2. to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3. to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together.
4. to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5. to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6. to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.

7. (of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast:
No problem with that ros but the GAA rules aren't based on logic or common sense.
Here's the one we are talkiing about.
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)

Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
Spitting at an opponent.
Contributing to a melee.
Stamping.
Inflicting injury recklessly.
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
These are unchanged.

The first would apply to O'Gara and the second to Keegan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: five points on August 08, 2016, 12:15:18 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
No problem with that ros but the GAA rules aren't based on logic or common sense.
They are actually. Otherwise the DRA would make mincemeat of them at every appeal.




Quote
Here's the one we are talkiing about.
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)

Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
Spitting at an opponent.
Contributing to a melee.
Stamping.
Inflicting injury recklessly.
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
These are unchanged.

The first would apply to O'Gara and the second to Keegan.

In order for a body contact to be classed as a strike, it must involve the inflicting of a blow. A pat on the head is not a strike, otherwise Darren Hughes' appeal against the stupid red card for tousling Tiernan McCann's hair wouldn't have stood.

Lee Keegan's case is a red herring here. He got off by exploiting a loophole in the rules, which has since been closed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 08, 2016, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on August 08, 2016, 11:03:20 AM
Many Red Cards are BS and alomost all double yellow cards are BS.

A double Yellow resulting in a red card is a joke.

Bring back faction fighting! :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 08, 2016, 01:39:29 PM
What was the point of doing what O'Gara did anyway?
Was he trying to fool Magee into thinking he was going to punch him full force so that he'd flinch/react?
Utterly pointless but fully deserved red and I hope it's upheld.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: pointman2 on August 09, 2016, 12:33:41 PM
Tyrone's behaviour over the years has been despicable -is it just a coincidence that they do much more sledging than other teams?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dire Ear on August 09, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: pointman2 on August 09, 2016, 12:33:41 PM
Tyrone's behaviour over the years has been despicable -is it just a coincidence that they do much more sledging than other teams?
Run along child , away n catch some pokeymen..... ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 09, 2016, 01:39:36 PM
Just caught a Tyrone pokeyman there on the street.

(https://www.pokechase.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pidgey-600x338.png)

He's fierce cranky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rudi on August 09, 2016, 08:51:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 08, 2016, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2016, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 08, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on August 08, 2016, 08:33:19 AM
On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.
Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Donncha Walsh if memory serves me right, but I didn't think that was a red either. Walsh made the most of that.

Strictly by the rule book it could be deemed a red but common sense should prevail sometimes otherwise the game becomes completely sanitised where any little 'contact' becomes a foul.

Walsh was the designated 'get him sent off by throwing a tantrum' man. We learned from the best.

He was the one doing this:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/14clWZvEUxxH7q/giphy.gif)

Very good muppet, he was an awful bit-h that day. ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 10, 2016, 10:30:47 PM
Big problem in this is that the punching and brawling once so prevalent in the game is now gone. Looking back, the mass brawls of the 90s and 00s, like Tyrone Dublin 06, are probably fondly remembered. The events were largely harmless and usually fairly entertaining.

Back then that was the " ugliness" of the game and it was forced out  by a load of sanctimonious wankers. The sledging, play acting, biting and dragging that has replaced it so so much uglier though but it's still the same sanctimonious wankers of tsg and indo bitching about it now. Sure lads it was you Fcukers that brought this about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 10, 2016, 10:42:10 PM
Well said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 10, 2016, 11:30:56 PM
Bring back faction fighting! ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 21, 2016, 03:28:41 PM
Tom Carr, otherwise known as Tommy
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Boycey on August 21, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 21, 2016, 03:28:41 PM
Tom Carr, otherwise known as Tommy

I'm watching on a dodgy box and for some reason the commentary on RTE is in Irish 8)

Watching on Sky now

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2016, 03:47:12 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 21, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 21, 2016, 03:28:41 PM
Tom Carr, otherwise known as Tommy

I'm watching on a dodgy box and for some reason the commentary on RTE is in Irish 8)

Watching on Sky now

I wish I had sky
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 21, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
Why do they not use Ciarán Whelan in the commentary box instead of Carr???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: never kickt a ball on August 21, 2016, 05:47:55 PM
Knock, novenas and our Lord all get a mention. Must have been some private competition going on between O'Rourke and Spilane. Joe on a different wavelength with his "sh1t or bust for Mayo"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on August 21, 2016, 06:24:56 PM
Carr thought it shouldn't have been the black card early on for the Tipp guy because it was early in the game & it was 80 odd years since their last semi. Why do we have to listen to this b0llox
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 21, 2016, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: sambostar on August 21, 2016, 06:24:56 PM
Carr thought it shouldn't have been the black card early on for the Tipp guy because it was early in the game & it was 80 odd years since their last semi. Why do we have to listen to this b0llox
+1.
What an appalling eejit.
I would have switched to the leagan Gaeilge but we had some foreign visitors.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
God the Tipp full back was poor for the first goal today.
He may as well have made tae for him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on August 21, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
Tommy Carr had always been all forms of dreadful. A great man for telling you that momentum has changed, but never able to pinpoint why. While even the worst soccer commentators (which is quite a competition) do some research on players and facts before a match, Tommy's insights come across as the work of a man who takes the Sindo to the crapper for 5 minutes before the throw-in.

But what the past couple of years with black cards have clearly highlighted is just how little he understands about the rules of the game. I'd imagine that this blatant disregard for his profession might be enough to see him shifted gently out the door.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Buckass on August 21, 2016, 09:51:49 PM
Tommy Carr followed by Jarlath Burns. The harmless brigade are busy today
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Why is 'TOM' suddenly the 'go-to' guy as TV co-commentator?
He was more of a radio man before this year I thought, now he seems to be on telly every 2nd week.
I actually pine for the Marty & Martin show when I hear his voice and believe me, that takes some doing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 21, 2016, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Why is 'TOM' suddenly the 'go-to' guy as TV co-commentator?
He was more of a radio man before this year I thought, now he seems to be on telly every 2nd week.
I actually pine for the Marty & Martin show when I hear his voice and believe me, that takes some doing.
McStay leaving for the galaticos probably had a part to play.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 21, 2016, 10:17:09 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 21, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
Tommy Carr had always been all forms of dreadful. A great man for telling you that momentum has changed, but never able to pinpoint why. While even the worst soccer commentators (which is quite a competition) do some research on players and facts before a match, Tommy's insights come across as the work of a man who takes the Sindo to the crapper for 5 minutes before the throw-in.

But what the past couple of years with black cards have clearly highlighted is just how little he understands about the rules of the game. I'd imagine that this blatant disregard for his profession might be enough to see him shifted gently out the door.

Well can only hope wobbler.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 21, 2016, 10:16:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
Why is 'TOM' suddenly the 'go-to' guy as TV co-commentator?
He was more of a radio man before this year I thought, now he seems to be on telly every 2nd week.
I actually pine for the Marty & Martin show when I hear his voice and believe me, that takes some doing.
McStay leaving for the galaticos probably had a part to play.

I had a feeling the Rossies were to blame somehow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on August 21, 2016, 11:30:12 PM
Sunday game is really getting worse each year. 3 pundits with on the fence views, they each throw out a few boring sound bites either side of the many an ad breaks. Des Cahill just wants to be everyone's best friend and never asks a single probing question. and what's with the flashy suits. Style over substance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 21, 2016, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: sambostar on August 21, 2016, 06:24:56 PM
Carr thought it shouldn't have been the black card early on for the Tipp guy because it was early in the game & it was 80 odd years since their last semi. Why do we have to listen to this b0llox
I heard that and got a great laugh from Tipperary Tom - why have a co-commentator who is a stone thrower himself btw. Another classic reason for dispensation from the rules being enforced. Imagine if yer man kicked the winner an hour later.

It reminded me of the list of other card exemptions we came up with years ago...
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=22344.msg1264798#msg1264798

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Canalman on August 22, 2016, 09:21:25 AM
Very frustrating to see pundits still not know the first thing about the blackcard rule.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
It's pathetic. And it makes me suspicious that they just don't want it to work. The way they throw up their hands 'Ah sure who knows why that's not a black card' would make you sick. Because of this bullshite, you have people moaning that Lee Keegan didn't get a black card for continually pulling Quinlivan's jersey. It just annoys the shit out of me.

Robbie Kiely's black card was unfortunate, and unnecessary, but it was absolutely the right call.


Bill Maher I'm less sure about, I thought I saw an angle where he threw a punch into the stomach of McLoughlin, but I haven't seen that angle since. All I've seen is Joe.ie and other moaning about it, and showing the angle from behind the Hill 16 goals. The angle I saw was from the Canal End.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2016, 10:15:00 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.
The TSG format, the one clown 2 straights setup at half time and the football championship structure are all very tired looking
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
It's pathetic. And it makes me suspicious that they just don't want it to work. The way they throw up their hands 'Ah sure who knows why that's not a black card' would make you sick. Because of this bullshite, you have people moaning that Lee Keegan didn't get a black card for continually pulling Quinlivan's jersey. It just annoys the shit out of me.

Robbie Kiely's black card was unfortunate, and unnecessary, but it was absolutely the right call.


Bill Maher I'm less sure about, I thought I saw an angle where he threw a punch into the stomach of McLoughlin, but I haven't seen that angle since. All I've seen is Joe.ie and other moaning about it, and showing the angle from behind the Hill 16 goals. The angle I saw was from the Canal End.

I think a lot of what we hear on the night-time Sunday Game is basically an echo chamber for whatever the prevailing social media narrative is.
It's easier to give out and throw your hands up in the air saying, "Sure this is a joke!", than it is to form a logical and coherent argument to support your position, particularly in the soundbite era we live in.
I remember Dessie Dolan on TSG when the advantage rule was brought in saying he thought there already was an advantage rule in the official guide.
This is a fella who had just recently retired from senior intercounty football.
The more I hear & read from Tomás O'Sé, the more I'm convinced he's settling in for a cosy lifetime of bland yerrah-ness.
Look, I suppose that's the world we live in now, Des.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on August 22, 2016, 10:48:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
It's pathetic. And it makes me suspicious that they just don't want it to work. The way they throw up their hands 'Ah sure who knows why that's not a black card' would make you sick. Because of this bullshite, you have people moaning that Lee Keegan didn't get a black card for continually pulling Quinlivan's jersey. It just annoys the shit out of me.

Robbie Kiely's black card was unfortunate, and unnecessary, but it was absolutely the right call.


Bill Maher I'm less sure about, I thought I saw an angle where he threw a punch into the stomach of McLoughlin, but I haven't seen that angle since. All I've seen is Joe.ie and other moaning about it, and showing the angle from behind the Hill 16 goals. The angle I saw was from the Canal End.



Think this is probably the angle you're talking about - looks like a fair enough red to me.
https://twitter.com/barryduf/status/767468118159548416 (https://twitter.com/barryduf/status/767468118159548416)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 22, 2016, 10:52:10 AM
Tommy Carr said you shouldn't get a black card so early in the game and then when Donal Vaughan got one at the end there was no point giving it then either. So the question is Tommy........during what stage of the game should you give a black card?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:54:40 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 22, 2016, 10:48:54 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
It's pathetic. And it makes me suspicious that they just don't want it to work. The way they throw up their hands 'Ah sure who knows why that's not a black card' would make you sick. Because of this bullshite, you have people moaning that Lee Keegan didn't get a black card for continually pulling Quinlivan's jersey. It just annoys the shit out of me.

Robbie Kiely's black card was unfortunate, and unnecessary, but it was absolutely the right call.


Bill Maher I'm less sure about, I thought I saw an angle where he threw a punch into the stomach of McLoughlin, but I haven't seen that angle since. All I've seen is Joe.ie and other moaning about it, and showing the angle from behind the Hill 16 goals. The angle I saw was from the Canal End.



Think this is probably the angle you're talking about - looks like a fair enough red to me.
https://twitter.com/barryduf/status/767468118159548416 (https://twitter.com/barryduf/status/767468118159548416)

That's the one, and that's what I thought. Swinging arm, looks like a punch. Silly thing to do, and not exactly a travesty to see red for it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 10:55:02 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 09:41:15 AM
It's pathetic. And it makes me suspicious that they just don't want it to work. The way they throw up their hands 'Ah sure who knows why that's not a black card' would make you sick. Because of this bullshite, you have people moaning that Lee Keegan didn't get a black card for continually pulling Quinlivan's jersey. It just annoys the shit out of me.

Robbie Kiely's black card was unfortunate, and unnecessary, but it was absolutely the right call.


Bill Maher I'm less sure about, I thought I saw an angle where he threw a punch into the stomach of McLoughlin, but I haven't seen that angle since. All I've seen is Joe.ie and other moaning about it, and showing the angle from behind the Hill 16 goals. The angle I saw was from the Canal End.
Sky showed the other angle after the game. McGuinness, Horan and Canavan all agreed it was a red card.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 10:55:23 AM
A lot of people owe David Coldrick and his officials an apology.
This is EXACTLY what I was talking about above.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:58:15 AM
I knew from his reaction coming off as well that it wasn't a heinous miscarriage of justice. He knew right well. Once again Sky for accuracy, RTE for soundbites.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 10:58:15 AM
I knew from his reaction coming off as well that it wasn't a heinous miscarriage of justice. He knew right well. Once again Sky for accuracy, RTE for soundbites.
I watched the after match analysis on both. It was gas the difference. The RTE lads just were ripping into Mayo, whereas the Sky lads were a lot more reasonable.

Canavan said this was nearly ideal for Mayo as they'll be completely written off, but they know they are capable of matching Dublin or Kerry given the semi final draws of the last couple of years, which would be my thinking too. McGuinness though says he would be concerned about their lack of consistency and inability so far to put in a 70 minutes performance. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:29:39 PM
Jarlath, ever the politician, giving his opinion on U-21 hurling last night was funny.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
He actually is made of chocolate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aristo 60 on August 22, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
L'Oreal shade 515 Chocolate Truffle to be precise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 22, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on August 22, 2016, 03:06:06 PM
L'Oreal shade 515 Chocolate Truffle to be precise.

Yeah, I'd have said Caramel more than chocolate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 22, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Her failure to question Sonia the Great is a major black mark against her . It was the Issue once the o donovan brothers were finished and never as a major player sitting beside her about if.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on August 22, 2016, 04:36:01 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 22, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Her failure to question Sonia the Great is a major black mark against her . It was the Issue once the o donovan brothers were finished and never as a major player sitting beside her about if.

I imagine that was an editorial decision made well above her head.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 22, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Her failure to question Sonia the Great is a major black mark against her . It was the Issue once the o donovan brothers were finished and never as a major player sitting beside her about if.

Yeah, I'm sure Sonia would have spilled the beans on the ongoing criminal investigation in Rio.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on August 22, 2016, 08:04:50 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:29:39 PM
Jarlath, ever the politician, giving his opinion on U-21 hurling last night was funny.

In fairness he was 100% right.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on August 22, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
Used to look forward to watching TSG up until this year. Cant be arsed with it either way now. The afternoon shows and the evening show both need a shakeup. Dont think RTE care too much for quality GAA coverage though.If they did surely theyd have a midweek show midweek in high season . They ignore the league. They had that camogie doubleheader live a few weeks back was cos the Camogie Association paid them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2016, 08:52:38 AM
I don't know why they have to dress up in the suits. They look like fellas hanging around at a wedding.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on August 23, 2016, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2016, 08:52:38 AM
I don't know why they have to dress up in the suits. They look like fellas hanging around at a wedding.

They get the suits for nothing so I'm sure they feel sort of obliged to give them an airing on the telly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: iorras on August 23, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
The Sunday Game is beyond pathetic at this stage as is the actual live commentary and punditry. How can fellas who played over 30 years ago be anyway relevant to what is happening. Its a microcosm of Irish life and is why we see all these issues with the boards of charities, sports governing bodies, committees and the like. Get a job, don't make any waves and you can do what the f**k you like for as long as you like and no-one will hold you accountable.
The irony of it when those clowns get paid on RTE GAA coverage get to be judge, jury and executioner on players, coaches and manager with no right of reply.
The difference between sky and rte is incredible, with sky you have guys who have actually competed and won at the highest level giving their professional opinions on what has just happened and what might be about to happen rather than the rte made up owl shite ranging from outrage to gushing depending on the mood and how well the sleeping tablets and laxatives worked the night before in the nursing home.

And its not like you can get away from it on radio either, the f**king Marty Squad? Seriously.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on August 23, 2016, 02:14:17 PM
The age of the pundits or when they played is not relevant. Cyril Farrell no spring chicken is worth listening to on the hurling. It's the content that's at issue. RTE guys just guess what's going on often incorrectly. On Sky they looked at the black card and felt on balance it was a yellow but could see why the ref gave it. I am fed up with RTE co commentators and commentators not even getting the offence right in spite of several replays just pure lazy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 23, 2016, 02:26:18 PM
In general, there is significant confirmation bias in the RTE 'analysis'.
Brolly is a classic example of someone who will only present data which supports his pre-existing agenda, however unrepresentative that data may be, and ignore the overwhelming amount of data which doesn't support it.
Spillane does the same.
Colm is more objective, but then again, that could be my own confirmation bias talking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: iorras on August 23, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 23, 2016, 02:14:17 PM
The age of the pundits or when they played is not relevant. Cyril Farrell no spring chicken is worth listening to on the hurling. It's the content that's at issue. RTE guys just guess what's going on often incorrectly. On Sky they looked at the black card and felt on balance it was a yellow but could see why the ref gave it. I am fed up with RTE co commentators and commentators not even getting the offence right in spite of several replays just pure lazy.
I didn't mention age, although its a fair conclusion to draw, I was referring to recent involvement with the game at a high level. I think Cyril is an exception to the case but that maybe more to do with the passion the man has for the game and perhaps he has the kind of guy that is just good at it. The others just seem to hate the game and don't have any recent relevance to Gaelic football as it is now. For whatever reason, the hurling package is infinitely more superior than the football and its been that way for quiet a long time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 23, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 22, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Her failure to question Sonia the Great is a major black mark against her . It was the Issue once the o donovan brothers were finished and never as a major player sitting beside her about if.

Yeah, I'm sure Sonia would have spilled the beans on the ongoing criminal investigation in Rio.
so you ignore the big issue of the day with one of the main protagonists  just because she may not give a full and frank answer,
i don's buy editorial decision either . Is cantwell just a pretty face , gender equalizer, or a genuine Journalist?
its cowardly journalism.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on August 23, 2016, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 23, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 22, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Her failure to question Sonia the Great is a major black mark against her . It was the Issue once the o donovan brothers were finished and never as a major player sitting beside her about if.

Yeah, I'm sure Sonia would have spilled the beans on the ongoing criminal investigation in Rio.
so you ignore the big issue of the day with one of the main protagonists  just because she may not give a full and frank answer,
i don's buy editorial decision either . Is cantwell just a pretty face , gender equalizer, or a genuine Journalist?
its cowardly journalism.


It's not Joanne Cantwell's fault. Sonia was contracted by RTE to discuss athletics and nothing else. RTE have made a statement about it. They couldn't ask her about all the various controversies, as much as they may have wanted to.

I'd say that clause in her contract came from Sonia herself. She knows how unpopular Pat Hickey is and all the controversies dogging her sport. Who would want to go on RTE and have to address or defend all that malarkey? It is much easier to spout the usual mumbo jumbo about PB's & isn't yer man Usain Bolt gas craic altogether & then leg it with the pay check.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 23, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: iorras on August 23, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
The Sunday Game is beyond pathetic at this stage as is the actual live commentary and punditry. How can fellas who played over 30 years ago be anyway relevant to what is happening. Its a microcosm of Irish life and is why we see all these issues with the boards of charities, sports governing bodies, committees and the like. Get a job, don't make any waves and you can do what the f**k you like for as long as you like and no-one will hold you accountable.
The irony of it when those clowns get paid on RTE GAA coverage get to be judge, jury and executioner on players, coaches and manager with no right of reply.
The difference between sky and rte is incredible, with sky you have guys who have actually competed and won at the highest level giving their professional opinions on what has just happened and what might be about to happen rather than the rte made up owl shite ranging from outrage to gushing depending on the mood and how well the sleeping tablets and laxatives worked the night before in the nursing home.

And its not like you can get away from it on radio either, the f**king Marty Squad? Seriously.
Funny comment made by Brolly on RTE a couple of weeks ago, when he was asked to comment on something Ciaran Whelan said:

"I'll tell you something about Whelan. He's the type of lad who could end up on Sky next year"

He meant it as a kind of funny insult, but it was really a compliment to someone who was interested in actually analysing a game.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2016, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 23, 2016, 02:26:18 PM
In general, there is significant confirmation bias in the RTE 'analysis'.
Brolly is a classic example of someone who will only present data which supports his pre-existing agenda, however unrepresentative that data may be, and ignore the overwhelming amount of data which doesn't support it.
Spillane does the same.
Colm is more objective, but then again, that could be my own confirmation bias talking.
O Rourke has communion bias.
Spillane is not as good as the other 2.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 23, 2016, 04:42:07 PM
Quote from: iorras on August 23, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
The Sunday Game is beyond pathetic at this stage as is the actual live commentary and punditry. How can fellas who played over 30 years ago be anyway relevant to what is happening. Its a microcosm of Irish life and is why we see all these issues with the boards of charities, sports governing bodies, committees and the like. Get a job, don't make any waves and you can do what the f**k you like for as long as you like and no-one will hold you accountable.
The irony of it when those clowns get paid on RTE GAA coverage get to be judge, jury and executioner on players, coaches and manager with no right of reply.
The difference between sky and rte is incredible, with sky you have guys who have actually competed and won at the highest level giving their professional opinions on what has just happened and what might be about to happen rather than the rte made up owl shite ranging from outrage to gushing depending on the mood and how well the sleeping tablets and laxatives worked the night before in the nursing home.

And its not like you can get away from it on radio either, the f**king Marty Squad? Seriously.

Anyone have listener figures to compare the f**king Marty Squad to the Second Captain's version that ran at the exact same time last year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 23, 2016, 05:00:35 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
Quote from: iorras on August 23, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
The Sunday Game is beyond pathetic at this stage as is the actual live commentary and punditry. How can fellas who played over 30 years ago be anyway relevant to what is happening. Its a microcosm of Irish life and is why we see all these issues with the boards of charities, sports governing bodies, committees and the like. Get a job, don't make any waves and you can do what the f**k you like for as long as you like and no-one will hold you accountable.
The irony of it when those clowns get paid on RTE GAA coverage get to be judge, jury and executioner on players, coaches and manager with no right of reply.
The difference between sky and rte is incredible, with sky you have guys who have actually competed and won at the highest level giving their professional opinions on what has just happened and what might be about to happen rather than the rte made up owl shite ranging from outrage to gushing depending on the mood and how well the sleeping tablets and laxatives worked the night before in the nursing home.

And its not like you can get away from it on radio either, the f**king Marty Squad? Seriously.
Funny comment made by Brolly on RTE a couple of weeks ago, when he was asked to comment on something Ciaran Whelan said:

"I'll tell you something about Whelan. He's the type of lad who could end up on Sky next year"

He meant it as a kind of funny insult, but it was really a compliment to someone who was interested in actually analysing a game.

Correct, it's the kind of comment an insecure person makes to try to bring someone down to their level. I'm not saying brolly is insecure btw but Whelan is actually a very good analyst by RTE standards. He does make an attempt to analyse the game and tactics instead of just waffling like Joe regularly does.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?
[/quoteIndy Syf and Stew would be like 3x Brolly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2016, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?
RTÈ - Larryin, Bomber, most of the Tymoanies, Seafoid   
Sky - Farrandeelin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 23, 2016, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2016, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?
RTÈ - Larryin, Bomber, most of the Tymoanies, Seafoid   
Sky - Farrandeelin.

Jesus Ross, you picked a 'Rhu'  ;) I'm not sure if you mean to get me off half of the screens of the country 😁 or that you think that high of my opinions. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on August 23, 2016, 08:56:16 PM
'The fact that Tommy Carr is making money from commentating gives me hope of one day becoming an astronaut..' Jack McCaffrey, hardly known for being sensationalist, tweets what we all think. Any chance RTE Sport might consider opinion of his fellow Dub and current Footballer Of The Year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 23, 2016, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 23, 2016, 08:44:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 23, 2016, 06:23:35 PM

RTÈ - Larryin, Bomber, most of the Tymoanies, Seafoid   
Sky - Farrandeelin.

Jesus Ross, you picked a 'Rhu'  ;) I'm not sure if you mean to get me off half of the screens of the country 😁 or that you think that high of my opinions.

Ahhhhhh you're not the worst if them Farr :-*
And you do make the odd sensible contribution to stolensheep. :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on August 24, 2016, 09:06:43 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?
RTE would definitely have Tony as the new Spillane, they'd probably also use him on the soccer as the new Dunphy and on the Rugby as the new Hook such is the depth of his knowledge and talent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 24, 2016, 09:28:50 AM
I'd never appear on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 24, 2016, 09:55:23 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 24, 2016, 09:28:50 AM
I'd never appear on RTE.
Your fee demands would be too high?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 24, 2016, 10:10:01 AM
Rossfan and Syf would work better on a remake of Steptoe and son.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
I can imagine Indy in a Tom Carr style co-commentary role.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 24, 2016, 10:26:31 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?

;D I can see you chairing the discussion muppet in a little black number and a blonde wig  :-*
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on August 24, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on August 23, 2016, 08:56:16 PM
'The fact that Tommy Carr is making money from commentating gives me hope of one day becoming an astronaut..' Jack McCaffrey, hardly known for being sensationalist, tweets what we all think. Any chance RTE Sport might consider opinion of his fellow Dub and current Footballer Of The Year.

Carr is a poor analyist. I can see why he wasn't a  success as manager with Dublin,  Roscommon  and Cavan. Luckily Tipperary didn't appoint him as manager last year  ☺I thought he was very bias against Mayo last Sunday too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on August 24, 2016, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
I can imagine Indy in a Tom Carr style co-commentary role.

😂😂😂
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 24, 2016, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 24, 2016, 09:06:43 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
IF Sky and RTÉ had to pick panels exclusively from posters on here, who do you think they would pick?

My guess:

Sky:

(From) Croí, brokencrossbar, J70, Jinxy, AZOffaly


RTÉ:

Indiana, Syferus, Stew.

Anyone else?
RTE would definitely have Tony as the new Spillane, they'd probably also use him on the soccer as the new Dunphy and on the Rugby as the new Hook such is the depth of his knowledge and talent.
Tony could present the angelus after it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 11:35:54 AM
After announcing himself as the winner of the 5-night trip to New York with $1000 spending money.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 12:00:26 PM
On the general subject of media/games promotion, I have to say recent campaigns by sponsors like Lidl (ladies GAA), AIB (club championship) and AIG (the Dubs) have really shown up RTE for the lack of effort they put in to 'selling' our games in a modern, engaging way.

This AIG feature with Denis Bastick is brilliant and I think a lot of the ageing warriors of the board will identify with him.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi9oJdh4RIM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi9oJdh4RIM)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 24, 2016, 12:20:26 PM
Mad man. Chin ups are tough enough without adding more bleeding weight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Fair play to Bastick, he's in some shape.
I remember a game years ago where he was on his back after a tackle and he did this kind of ninja flip back up onto his feet.
Are himself & Cluxton the last surviving members of Pillar's regime?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 24, 2016, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Fair play to Bastick, he's in some shape.
I remember a game years ago where he was on his back after a tackle and he did this kind of ninja flip back up onto his feet.
Are himself & Cluxton the last surviving members of Pillar's regime?

it was the AI final v Kerry in 2011

B Brogan played in Pillar's time too
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
Yeah, I had it in my head Pillar left in 2006 for some reason.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on August 24, 2016, 01:08:06 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 24, 2016, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Frair play to Bastick, he's in some shape.
Iare himself & Cluxton the last surviving members of Pillar's regime?

it was the AI final v Kerry in 2011

B Brogan played in Pillar's time too

Connolly, Flynn, Andrews and Philly all given championship debut by Pillar in 07/08. O'Gara played a couple league games in that time
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Think Andrews started out as a corner back, didn't he?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 24, 2016, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Think Andrews started out as a corner back, didn't he?

Paddy Andrews? I know Peadar Andrews was a back, but I always thought Paddy was a forward.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on August 24, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Think Andrews started out as a corner back, didn't he?
Paddy played in the forwards at minor and U21 for Dublin. Moyna at DCU thought him better as a corner back so played him there in Sigerson. It was only the once or twice he played there under Pillar I think. I remember him getting sent off while playing there (along with at least one other) in a league game in Parnell Pk against Meath.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 24, 2016, 01:26:03 PM
I just checked. He played Centre Back for Moyna, but was at corner back in the startled earwigs game. Well remembered Jinxy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on August 24, 2016, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Think Andrews started out as a corner back, didn't he?
Paddy played in the forwards at minor and U21 for Dublin. Moyna at DCU thought him better as a corner back so played him there in Sigerson. It was only the once or twice he played there under Pillar I think. I remember him getting sent off while playing there (along with at least one other) in a league game in Parnell Pk against Meath.

He was corner back all during 2009 including the horror show v Kerry in the Qtr final
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on August 24, 2016, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Fair play to Bastick, he's in some shape.
I remember a game years ago where he was on his back after a tackle and he did this kind of ninja flip back up onto his feet.
Are himself & Cluxton the last surviving members of Pillar's regime?

That was Macaulay
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
No, it was Bastick.
Here's the video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvArmlZTVXc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvArmlZTVXc)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 24, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Quote from: Beffs on August 23, 2016, 03:10:03 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 23, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 22, 2016, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 22, 2016, 04:24:33 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 22, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 21, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Let Joanne Cantwell present it.
Did a great job on the Olympics and knows her GAA.
Sick of Des Cahill and the 'banter' he tries (and fails) to get going with the panel.

I thought she was very good on the Olympics as well, takes no crap. Cahill, whilst harmless enough, is a bit too sweet and if he was made of chocolate he would eat himself.
Her failure to question Sonia the Great is a major black mark against her . It was the Issue once the o donovan brothers were finished and never as a major player sitting beside her about if.

Yeah, I'm sure Sonia would have spilled the beans on the ongoing criminal investigation in Rio.
so you ignore the big issue of the day with one of the main protagonists  just because she may not give a full and frank answer,
i don's buy editorial decision either . Is cantwell just a pretty face , gender equalizer, or a genuine Journalist?
its cowardly journalism.


It's not Joanne Cantwell's fault. Sonia was contracted by RTE to discuss athletics and nothing else. RTE have made a statement about it. They couldn't ask her about all the various controversies, as much as they may have wanted to.

I'd say that clause in her contract came from Sonia herself. She knows how unpopular Pat Hickey is and all the controversies dogging her sport. Who would want to go on RTE and have to address or defend all that malarkey? It is much easier to spout the usual mumbo jumbo about PB's & isn't yer man Usain Bolt gas craic altogether & then leg it with the pay check.
useual horseshit from RTE ,by the same logic she would not be able to congratulate the o donovans or the one that won  or yer one that got silver in the dingy boat section .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Which event was Pat Hickey competing in?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on August 24, 2016, 03:52:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
No, it was Bastick.
Here's the video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvArmlZTVXc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvArmlZTVXc)

Gonna give that a shot at training tomorrow night, what can go wrong?

Remember Paddy Andrews scored an own goal playing Sigerson for DCU as a corner back, could explain the move up the field  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 24, 2016, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Which event was Pat Hickey competing in?

Looked like Judo or that TaeKwondo kicking stuff by the look of the garb on him when they arrested him.

Will Shane Ross being doing his utmost within diplomatic circles to ensure Pat is well treated?  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 24, 2016, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on August 24, 2016, 09:55:23 AM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 24, 2016, 09:28:50 AM
I'd never appear on RTE.
Your fee demands would be too high?

As a matter of principle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on August 24, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
I see Ger has got a promotion to the champions league tonight for RTE. No huge ones or hit and hope ones yet but plenty of time to go yet. He's probably missing his sidekick Tom.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 25, 2016, 01:58:47 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Which event was Pat Hickey competing in?

Lining the pockets.

Sad that somebody like that could bully everybody for so many years and get away with it.  The Olympic Council of Ireland has to go. Replace it with another body.
Sad also that it took Brazilian authorities to take a corrupt Irish cartel down and shave their heads, while at home  they were beyond reproach.
Sad also that likes of David Walsh goes after likes of Lance Armstrong but might have been put off by lawyers letters from a gangster in his own country.
Sad also that Sonia allowed herself to be part of that board. She will have little credibility going forward now as an official, although I believe she is 100% genuine and is unfortunate to be caught up in that mess.
Respect for Eamon Coughlan for seeing it for what it was.
If the FAI has to have any credibility going forward John Delaney needs to get a hobby to pass his time. He needs to be got rid of asap. Anybody within a square mile of Hickey stinks the place out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on August 25, 2016, 04:28:01 AM
Living in the U.S. And only getting bits and pieces of this event, look forward to reading entire story and history of Hickey
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 25, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Olive loughnane was interviewed in the Irish independent yesterday and said across 3 olympics her family got 1 ticket. 1.

If it is that blatant why have people not spoke up before about this??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ashman on August 25, 2016, 09:24:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 25, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Olive loughnane was interviewed in the Irish independent yesterday and said across 3 olympics her family got 1 ticket. 1.

If it is that blatant why have people not spoke up before about this??

Fear ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 25, 2016, 10:33:18 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 25, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Olive loughnane was interviewed in the Irish independent yesterday and said across 3 olympics her family got 1 ticket. 1.

If it is that blatant why have people not spoke up before about this??
coz every one loves to dance on a dead mans grave , it takes courage to do it when they are still in full power..
mind you hickey is a great man for litigation which is why the journalist are so happy to see him behind bars and  no one only Sonia has come out in support of him .
i im sure he has his lawyers reading every scrap written about him so when he comes home hell be suing Half the country if the charges prove false
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 25, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 25, 2016, 01:58:47 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Which event was Pat Hickey competing in?

Lining the pockets.

Sad that somebody like that could bully everybody for so many years and get away with it.  The Olympic Council of Ireland has to go. Replace it with another body.
Sad also that it took Brazilian authorities to take a corrupt Irish cartel down and shave their heads, while at home  they were beyond reproach.
Sad also that likes of David Walsh goes after likes of Lance Armstrong but might have been put off by lawyers letters from a gangster in his own country.
Sad also that Sonia allowed herself to be part of that board. She will have little credibility going forward now as an official, although I believe she is 100% genuine and is unfortunate to be caught up in that mess.
Respect for Eamon Coughlan for seeing it for what it was.
If the FAI has to have any credibility going forward John Delaney needs to get a hobby to pass his time. He needs to be got rid of asap. Anybody within a square mile of Hickey stinks the place out.

What crimes are/were they accused of in this country though?
I've little or no interest in the Olympics so I may have missed something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 25, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
I am wondering if the Brazilians think Hickey is not their top target. Their mentioning of Delaney makes me think they want to dig into FIFA as well as the very top of the IOC. This could be the start of something very interesting regarding world sport, but the silence from other countries, including our own, is deafening. Official Ireland will want it to just fizzle out, but we should be demanding more.

Would it be too much to ask a few good journalists to survey their nation's Olympic Athletes to see a) how many tickets their families got and b) how many the Rio Organisers allocated for their families? I am thinking UK and a few others. The results might be interesting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 25, 2016, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 25, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Olive loughnane was interviewed in the Irish independent yesterday and said across 3 olympics her family got 1 ticket. 1.

If it is that blatant why have people not spoke up before about this??
Maybe the athletes were told that the OCI only got a handful of tickets for events and took it at face value.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 25, 2016, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 25, 2016, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 25, 2016, 08:46:59 AM
Olive loughnane was interviewed in the Irish independent yesterday and said across 3 olympics her family got 1 ticket. 1.

If it is that blatant why have people not spoke up before about this??
Maybe the athletes were told that the OCI only got a handful of tickets for events and took it at face value.

Boom boom!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 25, 2016, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
I am wondering if the Brazilians think Hickey is not their top target. Their mentioning of Delaney makes me think they want to dig into FIFA as well as the very top of the IOC. This could be the start of something very interesting regarding world sport, but the silence from other countries, including our own, is deafening. Official Ireland will want it to just fizzle out, but we should be demanding more.

Would it be too much to ask a few good journalists to survey their nation's Olympic Athletes to see a) how many tickets their families got and b) how many the Rio Organisers allocated for their families? I am thinking UK and a few others. The results might be interesting.

IF blatant corruption around awarding to host cities, state sponsored drugging and match fixing doesn't do it then a few dodgy ticket sales won't either.

Tickets will get onto the black market regardless. If I was a ticket provider I'd be supplying the black market too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 25, 2016, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Which event was Pat Hickey competing in?

I think he was fencing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 25, 2016, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 25, 2016, 10:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 24, 2016, 03:51:12 PM
Which event was Pat Hickey competing in?

I think he was fencing

Thought it was the vertical parallel bars
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 25, 2016, 10:12:03 PM

Had to be one of the racket sports.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on August 26, 2016, 09:06:23 AM
Morgan Freeman on Gift Grub this morning...priceless.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 26, 2016, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 25, 2016, 10:12:03 PM

Had to be one of the racket sports.

:D

Or the vault.

Maybe the High Jump?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
Darragh and Martin on duty.
I can live with that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 28, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
Darragh and Martin on duty.
I can live with that.

I can live with the first half of that!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 28, 2016, 03:14:22 PM
Spillane talks of the health of Kerry football. He mentions the Intermediate and Junior Club All Irelands as well as the Junior AI Kerry have won this year. What he fails to mention is that coincidentally all these only show us is that Kerry having only 8 senior Club teams give them a huge advantage at these grades!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
Darragh and Martin on duty.
I can live with that.

I can live with the first half of that!

Lookit, just be glad they gave Tom the day off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 28, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
Darragh and Martin on duty.
I can live with that.

I can live with the first half of that!

Lookit, just be glad they gave Tom the day off.

Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:50:46 PM
Have Kerry any more old, slow lads to bring on?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 28, 2016, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 28, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
Darragh and Martin on duty.
I can live with that.

I can live with the first half of that!

Lookit, just be glad they gave Tom the day off.

Very much so.

It must be said
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 28, 2016, 03:55:19 PM
Ger Canning demoted to radio. Thankfully.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on August 28, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
It must be said that Darragh is a much better commentator that ger and marty and it must be said that martin carney loves saying it must be said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 28, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
It must be said that martin hasn't a f*cking clue that shoulders are meant to be shoulder to shoulder
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 04:07:39 PM
What the hell?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on August 28, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Colm backing up the Meath referee which is no surprise.

If Gough is the best referee in Ireland, then he'll get the final as well ?.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2016, 10:27:21 PM
Don't think he can.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2016, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 28, 2016, 03:55:19 PM
Ger Canning demoted to radio. Thankfully.

Ger has a face for radio.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2016, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: orangeman on August 28, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Colm backing up the Meath referee which is no surprise.

If Gough is the best referee in Ireland, then he'll get the final as well ?.

If Colm had his way he'd get rid of referees as well as cards by the sounds of it. Self reffing is the way forward.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 28, 2016, 10:55:38 PM
Ciaran Whelan rant about 'they said Dublin weren't hungry, that Dublin couldn't handle pressure coming from behind blah blah blah..........
Is this man getting paid for post match analysis or volunteering for club juvenile coaching?
I'm sick of that crap. Added into that Spillane bullshitting about how Kerry fought bravely and went out on their feet blah blah blah.
Pup talk from both of them.

This is why in amateur sport these jobs should be given to journalists. You can't leave your partisan crap at the door if you're a former footballer and the truth is the rest of the Country don't want to hear it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on August 28, 2016, 11:25:57 PM
Personally,  I think Ciaran Whelan is a first class analyst. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: muppet on August 28, 2016, 11:29:50 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 28, 2016, 11:25:57 PM
Personally,  I think Ciaran Whelan is a first class analyst.

Agreed. He was a junior infants analyst last year.






Only joking Heffo!  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2016, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 28, 2016, 11:25:57 PM
Personally,  I think Ciaran Whelan is a first class analyst.

I do too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 29, 2016, 02:04:38 AM
Only lad on RTE interested in analyzing the game, as opposed to spouting off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on August 29, 2016, 03:09:59 AM
Ciaran Whelan is an excellent analyst but why do Rte persist with the other two who sound like 2 old men in a pub talking about a game they have not seen
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on August 29, 2016, 07:42:09 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 29, 2016, 02:04:38 AM
Only lad on RTE interested in analyzing the game, as opposed to spouting off.

He spouts off less but he is capable of it as much and will progress like the others.
A big part of the problem is RTE pushing for banter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on August 29, 2016, 09:20:01 AM
Brolly and Whelan were at a panel chat show thingy on Sat night in Dublin which i was at and they were sitting beside each other chatting and laughing all night. There was also Tomas O'Se, Jack O'Shea, Barney Rock, Anthony Daly and was hosted by Marty M.
Brolly was quiet enough for the first 5 mins but then of course as usual he took over the show and tore strips of Kerry and called them the Donegal of the South. He said Kerry have sold their soul to the blanket defence brigade and are no longer playing the game like they used to but are too worried about the other team.
Joe as usual made some excellent arguments and held nothing back but I'd say it set the agenda for him and Whelan the next day.

He gave Sky an awful going over and even did a wee "take the piss" skit on their show. He uses humour very well to wind people in to like him but then also cuts very close to the bone many times with his clever remarks. I'd say Jack O'Shea was ready to punch him a few times as he sat there with his 7 AI medals to Joe's 1 and listened to Joe criticise Kerry football whilst singing Dublin's praises.

The amount of times he talks over other people though and not let them finish their point is a disgrace and MM wasn't able to control him. At one stage Whelan took his mike off him to shut him up.
Was a good night though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 29, 2016, 09:25:16 AM
If RTE annoy you's lads so much, use your remote control. The game was on Sky as well, why not just press a button and switch it over.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on August 29, 2016, 09:28:49 AM
Good to see the highlights last night actually do analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on August 29, 2016, 10:58:44 AM
Watching the 6 o'clock news on RTE last night and they didn't even give the result of the minor semi-final never mind any footage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 29, 2016, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 29, 2016, 09:25:16 AM
If RTE annoy you's lads so much, use your remote control. The game was on Sky as well, why not just press a button and switch it over.
1 not everyone has Sky
2 , while  RTE get the TV licence  money they are fair game for every one who pays the license whether they watch it or not . It pains me to think im paying for the privilege of not watching Gobshites like Joe brolly, t carr, and O rourke  at the Sky provide a skybox to FastForward Peter Canavan
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 29, 2016, 11:57:42 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2016, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 29, 2016, 09:25:16 AM
If RTE annoy you's lads so much, use your remote control. The game was on Sky as well, why not just press a button and switch it over.
1 not everyone has Sky
2 , while  RTE get the TV licence  money they are fair game for every one who pays the license whether they watch it or not . It pains me to think im paying for the privilege of not watching Gobshites like Joe brolly, t carr, and O rourke  at the Sky provide a skybox to FastForward Peter Canavan

You can't fast forward live TV :) :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on August 29, 2016, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 29, 2016, 11:57:42 AM
You can't fast forward live TV :) :)

For what Sky charge you should be able to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 29, 2016, 02:35:18 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2016, 11:54:18 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 29, 2016, 09:25:16 AM
If RTE annoy you's lads so much, use your remote control. The game was on Sky as well, why not just press a button and switch it over.
1 not everyone has Sky
2 , while  RTE get the TV licence  money they are fair game for every one who pays the license whether they watch it or not . It pains me to think im paying for the privilege of not watching Gobshites like Joe brolly, t carr, and O rourke  at the Sky provide a skybox to FastForward Peter Canavan

Lads like you shouldn't be allowed have a telly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 29, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 29, 2016, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 29, 2016, 11:57:42 AM
You can't fast forward live TV :) :)

For what Sky charge you should be able to.

Did sky have a camera on the goal line for Kerry's second goal? The RTE pictures were inconclusive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on September 01, 2016, 01:04:54 AM
Just watched Sky version of Sunday game.
What exactly is Senan Connell adding to the equation.
The post match studio analysis was cringeworthy,
Connell was stupidly smirking as nausium.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on September 04, 2016, 10:43:31 PM
It wasnt the Sunday Game but lovely hurlin from Marty!!

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/marty-morrissey-all-ireland-hurling-final-commentary/345173
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on September 18, 2016, 10:55:23 PM

Tomás O Sé is some Dublin lick arsheen in fairness to him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on September 18, 2016, 11:15:58 PM
whelan tried his best to get the spotlight on keegan for the incident just before the 1st goal (should have been a card of some colour) and then the indicent were the ref booked both of them. The others wouldn't let him make the point as they are obsessed with equalling these things out. He is spot on when he talks about the the cop out of the ref booking both. It happens every week and it is really frustrating. Keegan clearly started it so he should have been punished on his own.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: saffronandblue on September 18, 2016, 11:21:16 PM
A pity they didn't focus as much on the pulling and dragging that Auden O'Shea had to endure.  But your absolutely correct Moysider about Thomas....a Dub lick arse if ever there was one...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on September 18, 2016, 11:25:46 PM
Quote from: saffronandblue on September 18, 2016, 11:21:16 PM
A pity they didn't focus as much on the pulling and dragging that Auden O'Shea had to endure.  But your absolutely correct Moysider about Thomas....a Dub lick arse if ever there was one...

it was going on all over the pitch. Arms left in all over the place. If OShea focused more on playing and less on moaning he might live up to the hype. He can have no complaints today as he should have been off for his completely unecessary hit right in front of the ref
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on September 19, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: straightred on September 18, 2016, 11:15:58 PMHe is spot on when he talks about the the cop out of the ref booking both. It happens every week and it is really frustrating. Keegan clearly started it so he should have been punished on his own.
His point is a fair one in the general sense. I'm not sure Connolly vs. Keegan was the best example of it in action though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 19, 2016, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 19, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
Quote from: straightred on September 18, 2016, 11:15:58 PMHe is spot on when he talks about the the cop out of the ref booking both. It happens every week and it is really frustrating. Keegan clearly started it so he should have been punished on his own.
His point is a fair one in the general sense. I'm not sure Connolly vs. Keegan was the best example of it in action though.
I agree, generally there are far too many cop out bookings of a yellow each, but in the connolly/keegan one, keegan certain came towards connolly first and wouldnt let go of his jersey, but connolly was the first to grab a jersey and threw 3/4 punches/swings and could well have seen red.
(he also got a way with another challenge earlier in teh game that should have been at least a yellow)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 10:07:40 PM
Michael Lyster isn't suited to the League Sunday format at all.
Far too many, "Sure lookit, I suppose..." type of contributions.
Someone like Joanne Cantwell would be much better.
Much more likely to ask the hard questions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on April 02, 2017, 10:11:01 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 10:07:40 PM
Michael Lyster isn't suited to the League Sunday format at all.
Far too many, "Sure lookit, I suppose..." type of contributions.
Someone like Joanne Cantwell would be much better.
Much more likely to ask the hard questions.

Dara O Cinneide or Colm Parkinson (if he could control himself) would be my choice
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 10:07:40 PM
Michael Lyster isn't suited to the League Sunday format at all.
Far too many, "Sure lookit, I suppose..." type of contributions.
Someone like Joanne Cantwell would be much better.
Much more likely to ask the hard questions.

Agree 10,000%.

All the "ah shure lookit, I suppose" responses are really, really annoying.

Am not naming names, but there is one particular former player who is one of the worst offenders. He was on his own counties radio show a few weeks ago. (I just happend to catch him when I was down there and was driving through.) He answered all the questions put to him, with simple Yes and No answers. When he was talking amongst his own people, he got rid of all the cute hoor responses and was well capable of starting sentences in a manner, that actually made grammatical sense. I was amazed. I just thought he spoke Sunday Game speak all the time.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on April 02, 2017, 10:27:47 PM
Did they only give 30-40 mins to that exciting day of football?
Probably one of the most exciting days of GAA football so far this year and we hardly see any of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on April 02, 2017, 10:33:51 PM
Winter is officially over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN79qPVL3gg
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 10:43:56 PM
Quote from: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 10:07:40 PM
Michael Lyster isn't suited to the League Sunday format at all.
Far too many, "Sure lookit, I suppose..." type of contributions.
Someone like Joanne Cantwell would be much better.
Much more likely to ask the hard questions.

Agree 10,000%.

All the "ah shure lookit, I suppose" responses are really, really annoying.

Am not naming names, but there is one particular former player who is one of the worst offenders. He was on his own counties radio show a few weeks ago. (I just happend to catch him when I was down there and was driving through.) He answered all the questions put to him, with simple Yes and No answers. When he was talking amongst his own people, he got rid of all the cute hoor responses and was well capable of starting sentences in a manner, that actually made grammatical sense. I was amazed. I just thought he spoke Sunday Game speak all the time.  ;D

Sometimes you'll hear a current or ex-RTE pundit being interviewed on Newstalk and they'll actually be really good.
Ask an interesting question and you'll get an interesting answer.
There's no real appetite for that on RTE.
This is the TV station that gave us 'Up for the Match', remember.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on April 02, 2017, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 10:07:40 PM
Michael Lyster isn't suited to the League Sunday format at all.
Far too many, "Sure lookit, I suppose..." type of contributions.
Someone like Joanne Cantwell would be much better.
Much more likely to ask the hard questions.

I'd say Lyster is deliberately trying to make sure nobody is offended by anything. Then they let Brolly loose in 6 weeks!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 02, 2017, 10:27:47 PM
Did they only give 30-40 mins to that exciting day of football?
Probably one of the most exciting days of GAA football so far this year and we hardly see any of it.

They only have the rights to show a one hour highlight show. They can't show any more than that. It's an awful shame, but there ya go.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on April 02, 2017, 10:55:50 PM
Quote from: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 02, 2017, 10:27:47 PM
Did they only give 30-40 mins to that exciting day of football?
Probably one of the most exciting days of GAA football so far this year and we hardly see any of it.

They only have the rights to show a one hour highlight show. They can't show any more than that. It's an awful shame, but there ya go.

Who has the remaining rights?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on April 02, 2017, 10:55:50 PM
Quote from: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 10:53:07 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 02, 2017, 10:27:47 PM
Did they only give 30-40 mins to that exciting day of football?
Probably one of the most exciting days of GAA football so far this year and we hardly see any of it.

They only have the rights to show a one hour highlight show. They can't show any more than that. It's an awful shame, but there ya go.

Who has the remaining rights?

Eir and TG4 have the right to the live games and RTE have the rigths to the highligts package. RTE are limited to only being allowed to show a one hour highlights show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 11:04:11 PM
Was hoping to see some of Armagh v Tipp.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on April 02, 2017, 11:04:49 PM
Why are highlights limited to an hour?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on April 02, 2017, 11:06:53 PM
That can't be right.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on April 02, 2017, 11:07:52 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 02, 2017, 11:04:11 PM
Was hoping to see some of Armagh v Tipp.

Yeah winner takes all game and no fckn camera at it apparently.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on April 02, 2017, 11:09:29 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 02, 2017, 11:04:49 PM
Why are highlights limited to an hour?

To keep Eir and TG4 happy and keep them willing to pony up the cash for the live games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southtyronegael on April 02, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
rte a f**king disgrace. 30 mins to wrap up all the football matches and 1 hour for hurling? pathetic excuse for a programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on April 02, 2017, 11:20:04 PM
Sooner the GAA have their own TV channel the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on April 02, 2017, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on April 02, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
rte a f**king disgrace. 30 mins to wrap up all the football matches and 1 hour for hurling? pathetic excuse for a programme.

It's nuts to have hurling and football still lumped in together.
How big is the crossover audience anybody? 20%
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on April 02, 2017, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 02, 2017, 11:20:04 PM
Sooner the GAA have their own TV channel the better.

Does the GAA have a proper plan? Your have 2 problems here, RTE are constrained, they have half a dozen stations on Saorview but are not allowed show additional programmes when they could show complete games during the week. The other problem is that the GAA look on rights as purely a money game, and undervalue having more coverage, for instance when UTV had a magazine programme but could not get the clips to show on it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lone Shark on April 03, 2017, 12:22:58 AM
Not showing Tipp vs Armagh was bad, not showing anything of Offaly vs Laois was criminal - they had the cameras in the ground for the hurling, so there was no additional cost whatsoever. If it turned out to be a drab procession for one team or another fair enough, but instead it was one of the best games of the day. Up there with Armagh and Tipp.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on April 03, 2017, 12:27:02 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 02, 2017, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 02, 2017, 11:20:04 PM
Sooner the GAA have their own TV channel the better.

Does the GAA have a proper plan? Your have 2 problems here, RTE are constrained, they have half a dozen stations on Saorview but are not allowed show additional programmes when they could show complete games during the week. The other problem is that the GAA look on rights as purely a money game, and undervalue having more coverage, for instance when UTV had a magazine programme but could not get the clips to show on it.

I dunno but back in the day RTE did not seem to regard GAA as worthy. There was defo. more horse racing live. Rugby, hockey and showjumping would have got more attention and exposure. The AI replay between Dublin and Mayo in 85 was not live. Neither was Roscommon v Armagh in '77. There is no footage of the Roscommon v Mayo Connacht Final in 79. I remember that because Joe McGrath scored 2-5 from play, got an All-Star, but only player that got an All-Star that there was no video clip for.
In '91 I think only the last game of the Dublin v Meath epic was shown live. It was probably well into the 90's before all provisional finals even were live matches.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on April 03, 2017, 07:13:01 AM
Quote from: Lone Shark on April 03, 2017, 12:22:58 AM
Not showing Tipp vs Armagh was bad, not showing anything of Offaly vs Laois was criminal - they had the cameras in the ground for the hurling, so there was no additional cost whatsoever. If it turned out to be a drab procession for one team or another fair enough, but instead it was one of the best games of the day. Up there with Armagh and Tipp.....
RTE are not very fluirseach at the moment. I think budgets are very tight . They lost €20 million last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on April 03, 2017, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: moysider on April 03, 2017, 12:27:02 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 02, 2017, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 02, 2017, 11:20:04 PM
Sooner the GAA have their own TV channel the better.

Does the GAA have a proper plan? Your have 2 problems here, RTE are constrained, they have half a dozen stations on Saorview but are not allowed show additional programmes when they could show complete games during the week. The other problem is that the GAA look on rights as purely a money game, and undervalue having more coverage, for instance when UTV had a magazine programme but could not get the clips to show on it.

I dunno but back in the day RTE did not seem to regard GAA as worthy. There was defo. more horse racing live. Rugby, hockey and showjumping would have got more attention and exposure. The AI replay between Dublin and Mayo in 85 was not live. Neither was Roscommon v Armagh in '77. There is no footage of the Roscommon v Mayo Connacht Final in 79. I remember that because Joe McGrath scored 2-5 from play, got an All-Star, but only player that got an All-Star that there was no video clip for.
In '91 I think only the last game of the Dublin v Meath epic was shown live. It was probably well into the 90's before all provisional finals even were live matches.

They only showed 10 live matches back in the good old days and it didn't include provincial finals.
Maybe Ros vs Armagh was deleted. That was a big problem 40 years ago

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/the-seasons-of-sundays-in-their-own-words-1.1476526
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on April 03, 2017, 08:29:09 AM
They should probably make an exception for round 7 of the league when deciding highlights contracts. There were at least 6 very important football matches on yesterday plus 3 decent hurling matches and people have been starved of GAA  since September.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht perspective.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 08, 2017, 07:10:41 PM
Kerry mafia in even fuller effect now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: beer baron on May 08, 2017, 07:15:03 PM
Martin Carney still there  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 08, 2017, 07:15:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht perspective.
O'Rourke is from Leitrim
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: beer baron on May 08, 2017, 07:15:03 PM
Martin Carney still there  >:(

Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 08, 2017, 08:41:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht Mayo perspective.
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 08:47:41 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 08, 2017, 08:41:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht Mayo perspective.
Fixed that for you.

Carney is a Donegal man first! The 2012 All Ireland final showed us that. He won't do Mayo (or Donegal for that matter) any favours like Spillane and Plámás will with soundbites for their native county. Sadly, Media presence is important in the modern game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 08, 2017, 09:07:32 PM
Would they just hire Cake already so he can put manners on that Brolly lad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 08, 2017, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht perspective.

Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 08, 2017, 10:57:04 PM
It must be said !

So only the 3 Kerry men.

Was the other O'Se lad busy?  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
What games are on? Never mind the panel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 08, 2017, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht perspective.

It won't matter. With Brolly there, the only perspective we'll get to hear about is Brolly's.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 08, 2017, 11:03:04 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
What games are on? Never mind the panel.

You won't be saying that when you're five weeks into the dour, defensive Ulsterball in all the games not involving Roscommon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 08, 2017, 11:14:54 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
What games are on? Never mind the panel.
Indeed who cares about the panel? i switch over or switch off once the game is over.

The full list of televised games on RTÉ2 is:

Saturday 20 May

7pm Monaghan v Fermanagh (USFC Preliminary Round)

Sunday 21 May

2pm Mayo v Sligo (CSFC Quarter final)

4pm Cork v Tipperary (MSHC Quarter Final)

Sunday 28 May

2pm Derry v Tyrone (USFC Quarter final)

4pm Dublin v Galway (LSHC Quarter Final)

Sunday 4 June

2pm Down v Armagh (USFC Quarter final)

Saturday 10 June

5pm Cork/Waterford v Tipperary (MSFC semi final)

Sunday 11 June

2pm Cavan v Fermanagh/Monaghan (USFC Quarter final)

4pm Galway v Mayo/Sligo (CSFC Semi Final)

Sunday 18 June

2pm Derry/Tyrone v Donegal/Antrim (USFC Semi-Final)

4pm Waterford v Cork/Tipperary (MSHC Semi Final)

Saturday 24 June

7pm Down / Armagh v Cavan / Monaghan / Fermanagh (USFC Semi-Final)

Sunday 25 June

4pm Carlow / Wexford / Dublin v Offaly / Westmeath (LSFC Semi Final)

Saturday 1 July

5.00pm, QUALIFIER

Sunday 2 July

2pm Munster Football Final

4pm Leinster Hurling Final

Saturday 8 July

5.00pm, QUALIFER

Sunday 9 July

2pm Connacht Football Final

4pm Munster Hurling Final

Sunday 16 July

2pm Ulster Football Final

4pm Leinster Football Final

Sunday 23 July

2pm All Ireland Hurling Quarter Final

4pm All Ireland Hurling Quarter Final

Sunday 30 July

2pm All Ireland Football Quarter Final

4pm All Ireland Football Quarter Final

Sunday 6 August

3.30pm All Ireland Hurling Semi-Final

Sunday 13 August

3.30pm All Ireland Hurling Semi-Final

Sunday 20 August

3.30pm All Ireland Football Semi-Final

Sunday 27 August

3.30pm All Ireland Football Semi-Final

Sunday 3 September

3.30pm All Ireland Hurling Final

Sunday 17 September

3.30pm All Ireland Football Final



 


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 08, 2017, 11:48:37 PM
Colm O'Rourke - very poor, rarely has anything to add, looks decent cos he's usually on with pat & joe
Ciaran Whelan - good, kn**ker of a player but one of the best on TSG
Martin Carney - poor, all clichés
Pat Spillane - useless, repeats the same thing every week regardless of what happened in the games
Colm Cooper - tbd
Dessie Dolan - not great, usually fairly watery
Oisin McConville - very good, himself & Whelan would be my top two
Tomás Ó Sé - similar to Carney, Dolan & McHugh
Martin McHugh - as above
Joe Brolly - useless, offers no insight and just rants
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 09, 2017, 12:24:52 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 08, 2017, 11:48:37 PM
Colm O'Rourke - very poor, rarely has anything to add, looks decent cos he's usually on with pat & joe
Ciaran Whelan - good, kn**ker of a player but one of the best on TSG
Martin Carney - poor, all clichés
Pat Spillane - useless, repeats the same thing every week regardless of what happened in the games
Colm Cooper - tbd
Dessie Dolan - not great, usually fairly watery
Oisin McConville - very good, himself & Whelan would be my top two
Tomás Ó Sé - similar to Carney, Dolan & McHugh
Martin McHugh - as above
Joe Brolly - useless, offers no insight and just rants

Still better than Jimmy and Peter giving rotten Ulsterball matches verbal blowjobs as if people are too stupid to see the sort of muck they've just watched.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 09, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
Agree with you 100% on McConville. I'd say he'd be very good at doing the co-commentary too. For some reason, Dessie Dolan gets a fair few of those gigs. God knows why. He'd put you to sleep.

Tomas O'Se was very good, for about the first half, of his first year as a pundit. He was honest in his thoughts about Cork going soft and he was dead right. He was crucified, but he was dead right. He has disimproved since. He is far too fond of the usual cliches and is the absolute worst for starting and ending every single bloody sentence with "ah shure, d'ja know, I suppose, lookit, I suppose... which completely diminishes the impact of any point he is trying to make. I thought it was just the way he spoke, until I heard him being interviewed on Radio Kerry, by his own people. He was well able to give clear, concise answers to simple questions, when he wasn't overdoing playing the cute Kerry hoor to a nationwide audience.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 09, 2017, 08:45:22 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 08, 2017, 11:14:54 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
What games are on? Never mind the panel.
Indeed who cares about the panel? i switch over or switch off once the game is over.

The full list of televised games on RTÉ2 is:

Sunday 4 June

2pm Down v Armagh (USFC Quarter final)


Does that mean the Clare-Limerick Munster hurling semi is on Sky instead?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2017, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht perspective.
they should wear jerseys instead of suits
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on May 09, 2017, 11:39:47 AM
Ranked in order:
Ciaran Whelan (knows what he is talking about)
Joe Brolly (might talk rubbish but worth watching)
Oisin McConville (very good to date and will hopefully improve)
Tomas O'Se (makes some good contributions)
Pat Spillane (useless but controversial)
Com O'Rourke (one of my fav players but just sitting there taking easy money for doing nothing)
Dessie Dolan (very boring)
Martin Carney (I turn over to another channel as soon as I hear his voice)
Com Cooper (I am very sceptical)

Michael Lyster - does my head in - wont let them answer the questions anyway even if they were any good!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 09, 2017, 11:46:11 AM
Thanks for that CF. Agree with The Trap re Cooper. Probably full of clichés. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
Audiences for TSG and the Gaaboard are quite different imo. TSG has to be at least 50% cliche, you know Marty.
If it was about 100% quality they wouldn't have Ger Canning.
Pat Spillane would have gone a long time ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: illdecide on May 09, 2017, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 09, 2017, 08:45:22 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 08, 2017, 11:14:54 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
What games are on? Never mind the panel.
Indeed who cares about the panel? i switch over or switch off once the game is over.

The full list of televised games on RTÉ2 is:

Sunday 4 June

2pm Down v Armagh (USFC Quarter final)


Does that mean the Clare-Limerick Munster hurling semi is on Sky instead?

4:00pm?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 09, 2017, 01:08:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 09, 2017, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 09, 2017, 08:45:22 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 08, 2017, 11:14:54 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2017, 10:58:30 PM
What games are on? Never mind the panel.
Indeed who cares about the panel? i switch over or switch off once the game is over.

The full list of televised games on RTÉ2 is:

Sunday 4 June

2pm Down v Armagh (USFC Quarter final)


Does that mean the Clare-Limerick Munster hurling semi is on Sky instead?

4:00pm?
That's the only game shown as on for that Sunday. Would be quite rare for a Munster hurling game not to be on live.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 09, 2017, 01:18:57 PM
Incidentally looking at that list, does that mean we won't have to suffer Tommy Carr this year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 09, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2017, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 08, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18275190_1467109203310124_1456125062157645462_n.jpg?oh=0b0ee867fe3a7e18d7064e05532fbd1a&oe=59B80744)

Colm O'Rourke, Ciaran Whelan, Martin Carney, Pat Spillane, Colm Cooper, Dessie Dolan, Oisin McConville, Tomás Ó Sé and Martin McHugh (missing from photo: Joe Brolly).

Leinster = 3
Kerry = 3
Ulster = 3 and 3/4
Connacht 1/4



A very balanced panel. Martin Carney the only fraction (about a quarter Mayo) to give a Connacht perspective.

Very much so.

I can't say for sure Ger, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 09, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
Quote from: Beffs on May 09, 2017, 12:31:23 AM
Agree with you 100% on McConville. I'd say he'd be very good at doing the co-commentary too. For some reason, Dessie Dolan gets a fair few of those gigs. God knows why. He'd put you to sleep.

Tomas O'Se was very good, for about the first half, of his first year as a pundit. He was honest in his thoughts about Cork going soft and he was dead right. He was crucified, but he was dead right. He has disimproved since. He is far too fond of the usual cliches and is the absolute worst for starting and ending every single bloody sentence with "ah shure, d'ja know, I suppose, lookit, I suppose... which completely diminishes the impact of any point he is trying to make. I thought it was just the way he spoke, until I heard him being interviewed on Radio Kerry, by his own people. He was well able to give clear, concise answers to simple questions, when he wasn't overdoing playing the cute Kerry hoor to a nationwide audience.

So true on O Se. Terrible.

Cliché city,

"Look Michael, I suppose",
"I remember the day we played them ten years ago"

ZZZZZZZZZZZ, Please go away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 09, 2017, 01:41:30 PM
Can we not just get the hurling analysts to do the football as well?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 09, 2017, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 09, 2017, 01:28:04 PM

So true on O Se. Terrible.

Cliché city,

"Look Michael, I suppose",
"I remember the day we played them ten years ago"

ZZZZZZZZZZZ, Please go away.

Yeah and Daragh is nothing but wall to wall stories about Paudi. Nothing personal against Marc & he does bring recent experience of playing the Dubs to the table, but does the planet really need yet another O'Se brother doing pundity? I wasn't a bit surprised to see him pop up in Eir Sports during the league, but it would be nice to see someone from other counties than Kerry (in particular) getting all the punditry gigs. There is too much shadow box going on with that crowd, as they all have an eye on potential meetings in August and September. How about just analysing the bloody game that is on in front of you, on its own merits, just for bloody once?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 10, 2017, 12:17:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
Audiences for TSG and the Gaaboard are quite different imo. TSG has to be at least 50% cliche, you know Marty.
If it was about 100% quality they wouldn't have Ger Canning.
Pat Spillane would have gone a long time ago.

You're on the money there Seaf, most people watching the Sunday game are the relatively casual observer
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 10, 2017, 12:26:47 AM
I'd be happy for Spillane to go, but please please get rid of Ger Canning!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 12:27:00 AM
Cian Ward and Anthony Moyles are two of the best analysts around.
Wouldn't suit the soundbite-driven style of TSG though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 10, 2017, 12:31:15 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 12:27:00 AM
Cian Ward and Anthony Moyles are two of the best analysts around.
Wouldn't suit the soundbite-driven style of TSG though.

They only sound good cos they're on newstalk with Brady
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on May 10, 2017, 04:46:16 AM
Quote from: Beffs on May 09, 2017, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 09, 2017, 01:28:04 PM

So true on O Se. Terrible.

Cliché city,

"Look Michael, I suppose",
"I remember the day we played them ten years ago"

ZZZZZZZZZZZ, Please go away.

Yeah and Daragh is nothing but wall to wall stories about Paudi. Nothing personal against Marc & he does bring recent experience of playing the Dubs to the table, but does the planet really need yet another O'Se brother doing pundity? I wasn't a bit surprised to see him pop up in Eir Sports during the league, but it would be nice to see someone from other counties than Kerry (in particular) getting all the punditry gigs. There is too much shadow box going on with that crowd, as they all have an eye on potential meetings in August and September. How about just analysing the bloody game that is on in front of you, on its own merits, just for bloody once?

Is on now too, did tomas get the boot
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
The hurling analysis on TSG is usually decent but the bar is quite low for football. Occasionally there will be something insightful and it always comes as a pleasant surprise.
I think RTE often act as though the viewers are stupid. I wonder who decides on the content and tone on programmes like TSG.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 10, 2017, 12:20:04 PM
Are the 3 wise men under pressure?

AFTER the recent exits of George Hook and John Giles from their analysts positions at RTÉ, question marks are hanging over the futures of Joe Brolly, Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane at Montrose.

John Fogarty writes for the Irish Examiner:

"As box office as his punditry may be, Brolly, 48 next month, has sailed too close to the wind in recent times — the Rachel Wyse comment in 2014 and the Marty Morrisey one in 2015 — and there isn't as much sympathy for him in RTÉ as there once was.

"O'Rourke, 60 in August, would be regarded as the safest pair of hands of all three, but then Giles would have been deemed likewise compared to Liam Brady and Eamon Dunphy.

"Spillane, 62 in December, and the longest standing analyst of the trio, may be a tad worried that the Kerry contingent has now jumped to three from two in the past few years."

He also speculates that Tomas O Se and Ciaran Whelan are moving up to 'senior analyst positions.'

Is this the last we'll see of the Big Three?

"It's not as if any of Brolly, O'Rourke or Spillane have become irrelevant but youth is definitely the policy in Donnybrook these days.

"Might this be the year that the station's top football combination going back to the 2000s is broken up or given a farewell?"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 12:23:45 PM
They'll replace Spillane with Whelan.
Whelan & Brolly will be the new sparring partners with Colm continuing in the role of senior analyst.
Spillane will move to the evening show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Avondhu star on May 10, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Its time for a generation change. Get rid of O Rourke and Spillane. Bring in Brian Dooher or Canavan from the north. Gooch is coming in. Jackie Tyrell does a good newspaper column. Bring him in with O hAilpin of Cork and get rid of Farrell
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 10, 2017, 01:03:16 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on May 10, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Its time for a generation change. Get rid of O Rourke and Spillane. Bring in Brian Dooher or Canavan from the north. Gooch is coming in. Jackie Tyrell does a good newspaper column. Bring him in with O hAilpin of Cork and get rid of Farrell

Dooher wouldn't strike me as a fella who would excel in the pundit role on TV.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 01:15:28 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on May 10, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Its time for a generation change. Get rid of O Rourke and Spillane. Bring in Brian Dooher or Canavan from the north. Gooch is coming in. Jackie Tyrell does a good newspaper column. Bring him in with O hAilpin of Cork and get rid of Farrell

No.
Just no.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2017, 01:27:35 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 01:15:28 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on May 10, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Its time for a generation change. Get rid of O Rourke and Spillane. Bring in Brian Dooher or Canavan from the north. Gooch is coming in. Jackie Tyrell does a good newspaper column. Bring him in with O hAilpin of Cork and get rid of Farrell

No.
Just no.
Cyril is the keeper of the lookit flame on TSG and he has a better accent than o Hailpin.
JT is KK and so is Shefflin so that would not work.

I would get rid of Spillane.
Colm O Rourke should be a politician. His position on the Cavanagh tackle was notable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeUi2KR5VaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lxS7ku5nak
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
The thing about TSG is that as an RTE sport  production it requires 3 characters

A younger opinionated person
A straight guy
A bollocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo1y3Ejr71s

Because it's equal parts sport and entertainment
So if they got rid of Spillane who would be #3 ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DJGaliv on May 10, 2017, 01:39:50 PM
I think people are mistakenly thinking that these guys don't have the football knowledge or the skills to communicate it. I honestly believe they've been asked to dumb it down for the viewer.

Óisin McConville is very good, Tomás Ó Sé was very good initially, and I do like Whelan as a pundit. Don't be afraid to disagree lads.

I just feel that on TSG it's like they've their hands tied behind their back rather than their knowledge or communication skills being lacking

I don't know what ye think but I'd give Colm Parkinson a role on the show. The GAA Hour podcast is decent and you'd get more insight there into intercounty football than a season of TSG.

Might be a bit off the wall suggestion, but why is so much put on how many All Ireland's each analyst has rather than getting in someone who'll lift the lid a wee bit on what intercounty set ups are like?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 10, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
RTE know that Brolly is controversial and makes good TV. They all love him to bits including Marty M as he has them in stitches every day.

Didn't Brian McGuigan and Phillip Jordan make a few appearances last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on May 10, 2017, 03:26:12 PM
I agree about Colm Parkinson.  He and Cian Ward are the best in my opinion.  The SG panellists are dead on, but they suffer from a lack of time to do any sort of development in their analysis because of the upcoming commercial breaks all the time.  Therefore, you get a comment, a break and then a bit of analysis over some shots of the game.  And then it's over.

All new panellists have the same refreshing tone at the beginning, but then people get sick of them and the reason is simple lads.

There are about twenty comments you can make about any match as follows;
  Backs on top, forwards on top, referee poor, lack of changes made, good subs bench made the difference, tradition counted today, blanket defence worked well for this team, wastefulness in front of goal cost them dearly, a game of two halves, the wet ball made a difference, a list of injuries which affected the starting line out, a marquee player who didn't perform, the winning team had greater resources, the championship structures are wrong, complacency cost the losers greatly, it was all about pace and power today, the half forward line failed to click, the midfield won the match and here's how, it was the sendings off/black card that lost the game, they won because they pressed up on the short kickouts, the losing team never scored from the 36th until the 62nd minute, or similar stat. etc etc etc.

After that, it's a comment on the back of the drivel the manager speaks and its off to that James Last tune which is so out of date...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 10, 2017, 03:29:54 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on May 10, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Its time for a generation change. Get rid of O Rourke and Spillane. Bring in Brian Dooher or Canavan from the north. Gooch is coming in. Jackie Tyrell does a good newspaper column. Bring him in with O hAilpin of Cork and get rid of Farrell

I think Sean Og would be terrible
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
I'd go as far as to say that Tomás O'Sé is near enough my least favourite analyst now.
Started off well, then realised he could get away with phoning it in.
I'd far rather have someone like Paul Galvin on the panel (if we have to have a Kerry man).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 10, 2017, 03:49:58 PM
I'd go as far as to say that Tomás O'Sé is near enough my least favourite analyst now.
Started off well, then realised he could get away with phoning it in.
I'd far rather have someone like Paul Galvin on the panel (if we have to have a Kerry man).
Are Kerry being awarded TSG analyst roles as a compensation for the fact that they seem unable to beat the Dubs ?
Is the production line finished in Kerry ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReOwtTzUAZQ
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
http://www.independent.ie/videos/sport/watch-this-version-of-irelands-favourite-tv-tune-like-youve-never-heard-it-before-35725793.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on May 18, 2017, 11:34:21 AM
TSG is the sort of sound bite, clichéd analysis that comes from typical lazy, public service broadcasters.

If you wasn't proper, informed, structured, lively debate, without the egos and headline grabbing you see on TSG, The GAA Hour on Joe.ie is the place to go.

Every one of those analysts is well informed, know the game inside out and do not descend into insult. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 18, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
http://www.independent.ie/videos/sport/watch-this-version-of-irelands-favourite-tv-tune-like-youve-never-heard-it-before-35725793.html

I don't know why they persist with that new theme for TSG. The old one stirs up emotions in you from years before, and when you hear it you know the summer has started. I mean, you wouldn't change the MOTD theme, or Eastenders. It's all about having that connection. You might as well mute the new opening theme, as it doesn't do that..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bud Wiser on May 18, 2017, 08:56:51 PM
https://www.facebook.com/GAACraic/videos/1714016651946924/ (https://www.facebook.com/GAACraic/videos/1714016651946924/)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gwan-ye-boy-ya on May 20, 2017, 10:23:15 PM
Sick to the teeth of brolly at this stage. needs to show respect to his co-pundits as well as his anchor. Constantly cutting across everyone.
Got the feeling O'Se didn't want to be there and O'Rourke wanted to leather him. Why ? Because its ulster and ulster is the ' JOE SHOW'.
I really wanted to hear what Colm and Thomas had to say about tonights game... but JOE.....
Need to show more etiquette and professionalism joe. 
And as for RTE. Its up to you to direct the show.

ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME PLEASE. get it right RTE.

What was that little snigger  between joe and Thomas directly after Pete McGraths interview ?????? live on air.
I would really like to know.........................................................

More professionalism RTE please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 21, 2017, 12:23:28 AM
Feck professionalism. Just get rid of that Brolly tool.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 21, 2017, 12:31:39 AM
Keep Brolly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on May 21, 2017, 08:22:46 AM
Holy feck....Joe's opening gambit first day of the championship, first show of the year, first question asked...... Joanne:..Your thoughts on the upcoming season Joe... Joe: Well sure the whole thing is a farce...

Like wtf, is that eejit getting paid for this nonsense??? What are the Gaa doing letting Rte constantly denigrate the game like that, its been going on for years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on May 21, 2017, 08:56:53 AM
It's because he does no research, doesn't know the players and has about two original ideas. His tactic Therefore its  the classic diversion tactic.  Go on a rant about the association itself and that will do.

Glad to see he's finally being caught on for what he is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2017, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: Seany on May 21, 2017, 08:56:53 AM
It's because he does no research, doesn't know the players and has about two original ideas. His tactic Therefore its  the classic diversion tactic.  Go on a rant about the association itself and that will do.

Glad to see he's finally being caught on for what he is.

RTE have no respect for the GAA. It's obvious that Brolly will be kept to be the grumpy man in the middle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 21, 2017, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2017, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: Seany on May 21, 2017, 08:56:53 AM
It's because he does no research, doesn't know the players and has about two original ideas. His tactic Therefore its  the classic diversion tactic.  Go on a rant about the association itself and that will do.

Glad to see he's finally being caught on for what he is.

RTE have no respect for the GAA. It's obvious that Brolly will be kept to be the grumpy man in the middle.

Brolly just warming up. The big bad wolf Tyrone is out next week, cue death of gaelic football analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 09:22:50 AM
But football is a mess. Reffing is inconsistent. The black card is not working. The money . Stress injuries and fellas retiring at 28.  Creeping commercialism. Attendances are falling. Puke football turns off fans.  There is no vision for what  the GAA wants to do with the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on May 21, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
TSG is a poor quality product. Both the live show and the so called highlights package. The whole thing needs a rethink.

New presenter/anchor is a must. Lyster is awful. Bland questions. If indeed there is any thought behind his line of questions it seems to be to direct the discussion away from any criticism of players, officials, management or the general spectacle. Cahill isn't much better and would not be the answer for the live show.

Money is a big limitation on what can be done but a lot more can be done in terms of tactical analysis with the cameras that are there for the live games, especially in Croke Park.

I can't think of any other sport where if there was a red card or equivalent that the highlights package would show the card being issued but not the incident being punished if footage was available. Is it the game or the viewing public that are in need of this sort of protection?

Some of the pundits are poor but with a decent presenter they are not all irredeemable. The co-commentators are mainly awful. Is there someone inside RTE who sits down every year with Carney and Carr and says another great year lads. Let's do another year of the same?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 21, 2017, 11:36:28 AM
Hate the sound of Brolly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 21, 2017, 11:48:12 AM
The c'ship is a farce, but there's a time and place for saying that. Not on TSG.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 05:35:43 PM
TSG should show Cork v Tipp and the Carlow match this evening
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on May 21, 2017, 05:59:11 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 21, 2017, 08:22:46 AM
Holy feck....Joe's opening gambit first day of the championship, first show of the year, first question asked...... Joanne:..Your thoughts on the upcoming season Joe... Joe: Well sure the whole thing is a farce...

Like wtf, is that eejit getting paid for this nonsense??? What are the Gaa doing letting Rte constantly denigrate the game like that, its been going on for years.
how do the companies who buy advertising spots on rte during the Sunday game put up with all the negativity,the analysts would make u turn off the TV
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2017, 06:03:27 PM
People would still watch football & hurling if you had a selection of farm animals on the sunday game.
All that advertisers care about is the viewing numbers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on May 21, 2017, 06:05:10 PM
People might keep watching hurling but football..........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2017, 06:13:49 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2017, 06:03:27 PM
People would still watch football & hurling if you had a selection of farm animals on the sunday game.
All that advertisers care about is the viewing numbers.
I don't think it would work as a porn site
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 21, 2017, 06:30:48 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2017, 06:03:27 PM
People would still watch football & hurling if you had a selection of farm animals on the sunday game.
All that advertisers care about is the viewing numbers.

Sure you could say the same about TG4 League coverage. Most people don't know what is being said in the analysis or commentary. It still does not stop them watching.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on May 21, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
The fact that the Mayo guy took 12 steps for his goal wasn't even mentioned in the analysis? Brolly is right about the football being a farce - expected easy wins for Mon, Don, Mayo - what a waste of time & effort
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 21, 2017, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: sambostar on May 21, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
The fact that the Mayo guy took 12 steps for his goal wasn't even mentioned in the analysis? Brolly is right about the football being a farce - expected easy wins for Mon, Don, Mayo - what a waste of time & effort

Nobody around me at the match noticed either. Just shows how much people get lost in a moment!

Footnote:

Can you imagine the Headlines if it was Aido who scored the goal?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 21, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
They always show big teams and they are always likely to hammer opposition early on. Therefore miss potential crackers. I'd say the Leinster games decent today but get a minute later in highlights. Last year the same when a terrible game shown whe  Tipperary Cork in football supposedly game of the year. I think they need to show a bit of imagination in what their showing and decide to show games that have the potential to be competitive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 21, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: sambostar on May 21, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
The fact that the Mayo guy took 12 steps for his goal wasn't even mentioned in the analysis? Brolly is right about the football being a farce - expected easy wins for Mon, Don, Mayo - what a waste of time & effort

In any competition in the world the stronger teams will consistently beat the weaker teams with the odd exception thrown in. It doesn't get mentioned in other sports but is the current buzz thing to beat Gaelic football with.

The only solution is a tiered championship which the smaller counties don't want or handicap starts for weaker teams which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hotrocks on May 21, 2017, 09:10:14 PM
Another depressing day for Football in Ulster
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2017, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: sambostar on May 21, 2017, 07:34:37 PM
The fact that the Mayo guy took 12 steps for his goal wasn't even mentioned in the analysis? Brolly is right about the football being a farce - expected easy wins for Mon, Don, Mayo - what a waste of time & effort

He was pulled and dragged and pushed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on May 21, 2017, 10:32:50 PM

And? You're still only allowed 4 steps...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 21, 2017, 10:35:52 PM
People have their sums wrong on the steps.

Ref played advantage which negated the initial 4 steps, 12-4 = 8 then subtract the steps caused by the drop kick which was about 4 = 12-4-4 = 4. Factor in likely currency conversions in the Tyrone refs head reduces steps to 3 = perfect goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayoaremagic on May 21, 2017, 11:07:23 PM
Rte should be showing more highlights of non televised games but nice to see Carlow manager Turlogh O'Brien on show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 21, 2017, 11:13:30 PM
What was that cryptic goobledegook Rochford was saying. I'll have to see it again but I couldn't make head nor tail if it in real time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on May 22, 2017, 12:03:54 AM
Quote from: highorlow on May 21, 2017, 11:13:30 PM
What was that cryptic goobledegook Rochford was saying. I'll have to see it again but I couldn't make head nor tail if it in real time.

It was mostly just am....... am...... am........am. The usual.
Which is fine by me. I don't expect managers or players to say anything meaningful anyway. They'd be daft if they did.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Border on May 22, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
I despair, I really do. I enjoy the idea of getting a round-up of the days championship games. Soccor lads have had their match of the day for decades. But RTE in their wisdom have given the hosting job to a man who is inept and incompetent at best. At worst he is a biased classless inarticulate thick. Des Cahill was not just patethic tonight, he bordered on fostering the vile social media rubbish circulating recently incl on some so called GAA fan sites. Aidan O'Shea played only a minor cameo role today. Didnt score and only got marginally involved. No fouls cards or controversy. Yet Cahill the thick introduced in the main part of the Mayo Sligo "analysis" that some meath journalist spotted him giving autographs to kids in a nothing challenge game in meath some time back. Relevance to today's game- nil. When Paddy Durkin was being selected for man of the match,  you could hear the muttering sniggers of cahill blurting that Durkin missed an easy goal. Such biased dis-respect is astounding from our national broadcaster. And to really knock me out, at the end of the "round-up" he asks the question " well lads, so who's going to win the all ireland this year". First day of the championship. The man is a moron.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Duine Eile on May 22, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on May 22, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
I despair, I really do. I enjoy the idea of getting a round-up of the days championship games. Soccor lads have had their match of the day for decades. But RTE in their wisdom have given the hosting job to a man who is inept and incompetent at best. At worst he is a biased classless inarticulate thick. Des Cahill was not just patethic tonight, he bordered on fostering the vile social media rubbish circulating recently incl on some so called GAA fan sites. Aidan O'Shea played only a minor cameo role today. Didnt score and only got marginally involved. No fouls cards or controversy. Yet Cahill the thick introduced in the main part of the Mayo Sligo "analysis" that some meath journalist spotted him giving autographs to kids in a nothing challenge game in meath some time back. Relevance to today's game- nil. When Paddy Durkin was being selected for man of the match,  you could hear the muttering sniggers of cahill blurting that Durkin missed an easy goal. Such biased dis-respect is astounding from our national broadcaster. And to really knock me out, at the end of the "round-up" he asks the question " well lads, so who's going to win the all ireland this year". First day of the championship. The man is a moron.

Des Cahill drives me nuts, puts me off even watching the evening show. RTÉ really missed a trick not signing up Dara Ó Cinneide when Seo Spoirt finished.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 22, 2017, 07:54:46 AM
likes of Des have to get their % of work
otherwise he'd be hanging around the place doing nothing

please get rid of Martin Carney and Joe Brolly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2017, 08:16:54 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 22, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on May 22, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
I despair, I really do. I enjoy the idea of getting a round-up of the days championship games. Soccor lads have had their match of the day for decades. But RTE in their wisdom have given the hosting job to a man who is inept and incompetent at best. At worst he is a biased classless inarticulate thick. Des Cahill was not just patethic tonight, he bordered on fostering the vile social media rubbish circulating recently incl on some so called GAA fan sites. Aidan O'Shea played only a minor cameo role today. Didnt score and only got marginally involved. No fouls cards or controversy. Yet Cahill the thick introduced in the main part of the Mayo Sligo "analysis" that some meath journalist spotted him giving autographs to kids in a nothing challenge game in meath some time back. Relevance to today's game- nil. When Paddy Durkin was being selected for man of the match,  you could hear the muttering sniggers of cahill blurting that Durkin missed an easy goal. Such biased dis-respect is astounding from our national broadcaster. And to really knock me out, at the end of the "round-up" he asks the question " well lads, so who's going to win the all ireland this year". First day of the championship. The man is a moron.

Des Cahill drives me nuts, puts me off even watching the evening show. RTÉ really missed a trick not signing up Dara Ó Cinneide when Seo Spoirt finished.

+1 on Cahill, Can't watch him at all
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lone Shark on May 22, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on May 21, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Some of the pundits are poor but with a decent presenter they are not all irredeemable. The co-commentators are mainly awful. Is there someone inside RTE who sits down every year with Carney and Carr and says another great year lads. Let's do another year of the same?

Was listening to the early part of Mayo vs Sligo while en route to Portlaoise for the LS vs LD game yesterday. Tommy came out with the gem "that's the kind of 50/50 ball that gives the forward no chance". Somebody needs to sit him down and ask him to explain that type of rubbish, and maybe if he had to do that, he might put an ounce of thought into what he says in the future.

Or give him the boot altogether - but I know that never happens in RTE/Hotel California.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on May 22, 2017, 09:48:27 AM
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 22, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on May 22, 2017, 12:17:03 AM
I despair, I really do. I enjoy the idea of getting a round-up of the days championship games. Soccor lads have had their match of the day for decades. But RTE in their wisdom have given the hosting job to a man who is inept and incompetent at best. At worst he is a biased classless inarticulate thick. Des Cahill was not just patethic tonight, he bordered on fostering the vile social media rubbish circulating recently incl on some so called GAA fan sites. Aidan O'Shea played only a minor cameo role today. Didnt score and only got marginally involved. No fouls cards or controversy. Yet Cahill the thick introduced in the main part of the Mayo Sligo "analysis" that some meath journalist spotted him giving autographs to kids in a nothing challenge game in meath some time back. Relevance to today's game- nil. When Paddy Durkin was being selected for man of the match,  you could hear the muttering sniggers of cahill blurting that Durkin missed an easy goal. Such biased dis-respect is astounding from our national broadcaster. And to really knock me out, at the end of the "round-up" he asks the question " well lads, so who's going to win the all ireland this year". First day of the championship. The man is a moron.

Des Cahill drives me nuts, puts me off even watching the evening show. RTÉ really missed a trick not signing up Dara Ó Cinneide when Seo Spoirt finished.

+1 on Dara O Cinneide.  Has forgot more than Cahill will ever know about GAA
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 09:53:18 AM
There seem to be few different views on the 4 steps rule when a player is being fouled.
My understanding is that the referee will allow the player to take a few more extra steps if he's being fouled so that he gets the advantage of playing on and maybe scoring rather than blowing for a free and maybe preventing a goal scoring opportunity.

I've seen this several times with Sean Cavanagh over the years we're he's got a defender pulling him back yet Sean contines to run on and score a goal, despite having taken a lot more steps. I think this advantage benefits the game and the attacker player who is being fouled.

For those who are saying it doesn't matter he is still only allowed 4 steps, are they saying it should be a free out for travelling or that the ref should give the free in rather than play the advantage?

On another note, I'm surprised nobody is talking about Gooch's debut on the show. How do you think he spoke?
At least he wasn't choking Joe.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on May 22, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Yes, if the player being fouled takes more than 4 steps you give him the free, you don't just let him run endlessly because he's being fouled. It's simple stuff really. Thought the ref was very poor in the Mayo game, gave frees for the slightest contact especially for Sligo when they were chasing the game in the 2nd half
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 22, 2017, 10:01:05 AM
QuoteOn another note, I'm surprised nobody is talking about Gooch's debut on the show. How do you think he spoke?

Thought he was very good. Probably be a manager at some stage.

I thought they should have given a few minutes on the Mark. There were 2 brilliant Marks in our game, one by Parsons where he would otherwise have been crowded out and another by a Sligo lad who would otherwise have given away a sideline kick. There was a 3rd Mark where one of the Sligo haircut lads called the Mark and started off on a solo run rather than kicking it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on May 22, 2017, 10:17:12 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 09:53:18 AM
There seem to be few different views on the 4 steps rule when a player is being fouled.
My understanding is that the referee will allow the player to take a few more extra steps if he's being fouled so that he gets the advantage of playing on and maybe scoring rather than blowing for a free and maybe preventing a goal scoring opportunity.

I've seen this several times with Sean Cavanagh over the years we're he's got a defender pulling him back yet Sean contines to run on and score a goal, despite having taken a lot more steps. I think this advantage benefits the game and the attacker player who is being fouled.

For those who are saying it doesn't matter he is still only allowed 4 steps, are they saying it should be a free out for travelling or that the ref should give the free in rather than play the advantage?

On another note, I'm surprised nobody is talking about Gooch's debut on the show. How do you think he spoke?
At least he wasn't choking Joe.

I'm open to correction on this, maybe AZoffaly could clarify, he's usually good with the rule book!

My interpretation is that the player is still only allowed take 4 steps.
If they take more than 4 steps, then the advantage should be called back and the free awarded for the foul on the player in possession.
If not, then could a player hop the ball twice if he is being fouled? or throw the ball? or throw a punch (Extreme example and slightly different, dangerous play rather than technical foul!).
So I don't believe the rules allow you to hop the ball twice or throw the ball just because you are being fouled and are receiving an advantage, so therefore why would the steps rule be different?

I completely accept that referees tend to allow a 'few' extra steps rather than call the play back for a free, but I don't believe this is in line with the rule book!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Referees tend to restart the clock if a lad is being fouled, rather than stop the play for the free, but yes I believe that technically you must play the ball every 4 steps, and failing to do so is a free. If you have not gained advantage within the 5 seconds then the Ref can award you the original free.

Another one on the advantage rule... Why is advantage seen as a score? In most cases, if a lad is being fouled, and the ref plays the 5 second advantage, and he gets a shot off, even an unimpeded shot, but it goes wide; I'd say 7 or 8 times out of 10 the play is brought back for the free. I'm not sure the rulebook says the advantage must result in a score! I'm all for giving a free to a lad who's shot is affected by the foul, but some of the call backs are ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 22, 2017, 10:34:48 AM
QuoteAnother one on the advantage rule... Why is advantage seen as a score? In most cases, if a lad is being fouled, and the ref plays the 5 second advantage, and he gets a shot off, even an unimpeded shot, but it goes wide; I'd say 7 or 8 times out of 10 the play is brought back for the free. I'm not sure the rulebook says the advantage must result in a score! I'm all for giving a free to a lad who's shot is affected by the foul, but some of the call backs are ridiculous.

I was wondering that myself. We were called back yesterday even though we were in possession and on the attack. Making us take the free was a disadvantage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 22, 2017, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Referees tend to restart the clock if a lad is being fouled, rather than stop the play for the free, but yes I believe that technically you must play the ball every 4 steps, and failing to do so is a free. If you have not gained advantage within the 5 seconds then the Ref can award you the original free.

Another one on the advantage rule... Why is advantage seen as a score? In most cases, if a lad is being fouled, and the ref plays the 5 second advantage, and he gets a shot off, even an unimpeded shot, but it goes wide; I'd say 7 or 8 times out of 10 the play is brought back for the free. I'm not sure the rulebook says the advantage must result in a score! I'm all for giving a free to a lad who's shot is affected by the foul, but some of the call backs are ridiculous.

I absolutely hate this interpretation of the advantage rule. A player can get fouled but break the tackle take two solos and miss with no one near him from 21 yards out and still get another go at from the free. Makes no sense to me at all, the player got the advantage and shouldn't get another go at it. As you say if he's fouled and shoots off balance or something its a different story and should get the free.

The interpretation slows the game down even more as play goes on for 5 seconds and gets called back even if the player had the advantage and just misses the score or plays a misplaced pass. Something that definitely needs looked at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on May 22, 2017, 10:43:27 AM
Bugbear of mine - the failure to regulate steps is responsible for a lot of issues with the game.

The defender is unable to time his tackle, which leads to much of the pulling and dragging we see.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
My understanding is that referees are trying as best as they can to keep the game flowing and not always be stopping the game when there are fouls.
If a player is being fouled but he remains on his feet then the ref often decides to not stop play but to play the advantage and allow the player some leeway with the number of steps.
If he didn't allow the extra steps then the attacking player would be punished for staying on his feet despite being fouled.

So in my eyes you should be punishing the player who is doing the fouling NOT the player who is trying to play on anyway in order to get his shot/pass away. Another way of looking at it would be that by giving the free (and not the advantage with extra steps) you are rewarding the fouling player as he has stopped a possible goal scoring chance.

I agree that it is too much when the player misses his coring chance and then it's called back anyway. It's far too much of an advantage. Is it like that too in rugby?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 11:03:06 AM
I think that's where it's coming from. In Rugby a penalty advantage in the opposition half is almost always seen as 'worst case scenario this team will get a shot at goal'. Advantage is almost a free play of several phases to see if you score a try. I think GAA refs are applying that logic to fouls in the scoring zone as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
AQMP, are you of the thinking then that if an Antrim forward is through one on one with the last defender and he has taken three steps, the defender tackles him and pulls him back but the forward wriggles free and takes another 3 steps and scores a goal, you think that the referee must blow him up for 6 steps and it's a free out as he's broken the 4 steps rule?

Have you noticed that MOST refs don't do this and it certainly seems to benefit the flow of the game.
To award the free in and not give the advantage even though he's broken the number of steps rule is rewarding the defender for fouling imho.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on May 22, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
My understanding is that referees are trying as best as they can to keep the game flowing and not always be stopping the game when there are fouls.
If a player is being fouled but he remains on his feet then the ref often decides to not stop play but to play the advantage and allow the player some leeway with the number of steps.
If he didn't allow the extra steps then the attacking player would be punished for staying on his feet despite being fouled.

So in my eyes you should be punishing the player who is doing the fouling NOT the player who is trying to play on anyway in order to get his shot/pass away. Another way of looking at it would be that by giving the free (and not the advantage with extra steps) you are rewarding the fouling player as he has stopped a possible goal scoring chance.


Not the case, with the advantage rule the referee can easily signal a free but allow play to continue. The fact is, in most cases, the player in possession isn't being fouled. If he is, punish it, ok short term may mean a few more frees, but longer term a lot less, and an altogether better game with skill becoming much more prevalent and necessary for tackling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on May 22, 2017, 11:29:10 AM
but surely, the object of the exercise is to discourage/remove fouling? If that is the objective then giving the attacking team the biggest advantage possible id the best way to discourage fouling.
So I'm all in favour of giving the forward the scoring chance and if it's missed then call back the free (within the 5 seconds obviously).
I wouldn't be a big fan of the advantage interpretation in rugby that can sometimes go on for 10/20/30 seconds and then be called  back. But within the 5 seconds I'd be happy with it (maybe shorten this to 3 seconds if people think 5 seconds is too long).
One other thing I would say, if the free wasn't in a scorable position then I would say the advantage has already been gained by creating the scoring chance and therefore the free shouldn't be called back. I know the definition of scorable is probably different to everyone, but I'm talking about a situation where a fould is committed on the half way line (not scorable) and the ref allows advantage and the attackers create (and miss) a chance within the 5 seconds. I wouldn't be calling back the free in this case as the advantage was gained by moving the ball forward from the half way line into the forwards.

IMO, the opportunity for a teams free-taker to have a free shot at goal is a bigger advantage than a player to have a shot at goal from open play and so if that shot goes wide the free is the bigger advantage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 11:31:16 AM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2017, 11:08:53 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 11:03:06 AM
I think that's where it's coming from. In Rugby a penalty advantage in the opposition half is almost always seen as 'worst case scenario this team will get a shot at goal'. Advantage is almost a free play of several phases to see if you score a try. I think GAA refs are applying that logic to fouls in the scoring zone as well.

Advantage is almost a free play of several phases to see if you score a try.  Not exactly, an advantage can accrue where you move the ball up the field for say 25 metres or make a break out of your own half.  Also it helps that the ref in rugby calls "Advantage over"

Where does the scoring zone begin and end?

What I'm saying is that 9/10 if a penalty advantage is in the opposition half, the only way advantage is NOT seen as to have accrued is if the team fails to score a try. How many times have you seen a scorable penalty advantage 'expire' after a few phases of progress. Very seldom.  In your own half, slightly more alright.

Take Munster v Ospreys last Saturday even. Munster had a penalty out on the right, but they must have went through nearly 6 or 7 phases, nearly got a try and were either held up or knocked on themselves. Ref brought it back for the kick at goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on May 22, 2017, 11:48:54 AM

Jesus lads the steps thing is easy. You've 4 (or 10 depending on the ref), fouled or not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 22, 2017, 12:08:45 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
AQMP, are you of the thinking then that if an Antrim forward is through one on one with the last defender and he has taken three steps, the defender tackles him and pulls him back but the forward wriggles free and takes another 3 steps and scores a goal, you think that the referee must blow him up for 6 steps and it's a free out as he's broken the 4 steps rule?

Have you noticed that MOST refs don't do this and it certainly seems to benefit the flow of the game.
To award the free in and not give the advantage even though he's broken the number of steps rule is rewarding the defender for fouling imho.

First of all the chances of an Antrim forward getting in that position are negligible! 

But more seriously it's not what you or I think, it's what the rules of the game are.  In the scenario you describe above it's a free out all day.  You're not allowed to take six steps in possession without playing the ball.  The fact that a lot of refs seem to let this go (and I agree they do) is an issue of refs not applying the rules of the game, or inconsistent refereeing. 

FWIW I advocate allowing a player six steps and enforcing the rule rigidly.

Is it not a free in for the first foul? Advantage was played, the player with the advantage fouled the ball so play is called back for the first foul
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
But more seriously it's not what you or I think, it's what the rules of the game are.  In the scenario you describe above it's a free out all day.  You're not allowed to take six steps in possession without playing the ball.  The fact that a lot of refs seem to let this go (and I agree they do) is an issue of refs not applying the rules of the game, or inconsistent refereeing. 

FWIW I advocate allowing a player six steps and enforcing the rule rigidly.

It's what the referee thinks and how he applies the rules and this is why you sometimes hear comments like "applying the rules to the letter of the law" which means sometimes refs don't always apply them this way but use their common sense.

You said "You're not allowed to take six steps in possession without playing the ball" which is correct BUT the reason he's not able to play the ball is because he's being fouled. So the ref has to make the decision does he give him a free in or does he wait for a few seconds to see does he gain an advantage from allowing him to play on. To me this is good refereeing as he's showing experience and common sense to benefit the player being fouled.
If he breaks free from the fouling challenge and then goes on to take more than 4 steps then I agree then he should be pulled up for a foul.

Often it will take a player a few steps to regain his balance before he can take a solo or bounce.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on May 22, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
It's an awful pity there's no subscription channel that could have shown that Carlow v Wexford game.

What about the poor ould lads in New Ross and Gorey that couldn't make the trip to the game? I assume Brolly has been tweeting about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 22, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 22, 2017, 12:08:45 PM
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2017, 11:58:49 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 11:20:07 AM
AQMP, are you of the thinking then that if an Antrim forward is through one on one with the last defender and he has taken three steps, the defender tackles him and pulls him back but the forward wriggles free and takes another 3 steps and scores a goal, you think that the referee must blow him up for 6 steps and it's a free out as he's broken the 4 steps rule?

Have you noticed that MOST refs don't do this and it certainly seems to benefit the flow of the game.
To award the free in and not give the advantage even though he's broken the number of steps rule is rewarding the defender for fouling imho.

First of all the chances of an Antrim forward getting in that position are negligible! 

But more seriously it's not what you or I think, it's what the rules of the game are.  In the scenario you describe above it's a free out all day.  You're not allowed to take six steps in possession without playing the ball.  The fact that a lot of refs seem to let this go (and I agree they do) is an issue of refs not applying the rules of the game, or inconsistent refereeing. 

FWIW I advocate allowing a player six steps and enforcing the rule rigidly.

Is it not a free in for the first foul? Advantage was played, the player with the advantage fouled the ball so play is called back for the first foul

Of course it is! I can't believe this is even a discussion
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: grounded on May 22, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on May 22, 2017, 11:48:54 AM

Jesus lads the steps thing is easy. You've 4 (or 10 depending on the ref), fouled or not.

Hold on a second there, you forgot about the half steps. It takes 3 half steps to equal a full step!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 01:20:38 PM
Or if you are a small player, you can take up to 24 little quick steps.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on May 22, 2017, 01:27:02 PM
On the issue of advantage and taking a shot, when they introduced the rule I was at a talk given by Pat McEnaney. He told us that if we get advantage then we may as well have a pop at the posts because if we miss, it'll be pulled back for a free anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 22, 2017, 01:40:37 PM
Quote from: Lone Shark on May 22, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on May 21, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Some of the pundits are poor but with a decent presenter they are not all irredeemable. The co-commentators are mainly awful. Is there someone inside RTE who sits down every year with Carney and Carr and says another great year lads. Let's do another year of the same?

Was listening to the early part of Mayo vs Sligo while en route to Portlaoise for the LS vs LD game yesterday. Tommy came out with the gem "that's the kind of 50/50 ball that gives the forward no chance". Somebody needs to sit him down and ask him to explain that type of rubbish, and maybe if he had to do that, he might put an ounce of thought into what he says in the future.

Or give him the boot altogether - but I know that never happens in RTE/Hotel California.

Great,

Almost as good was last year when he was "co-commentating", (he never shut up) on the Mayo v Tipp semi-final last year. When Tipp player was given a deserved black card early in the game, Tommy tom tom says something to the effect of, " You cant go giving a player a black card after 8 minutes".

Another example of where RTE is with their attention to detail on GAA, the headline after the Carlow win V Wexford, was "Turlough O Connor hails Carlow win"  ::)
Manager's names is Turlough O Brien.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on May 22, 2017, 01:57:02 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 01:20:38 PM
Or if you are a small player, you can take up to 24 little quick steps.
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 22, 2017, 01:59:21 PM
They also put Frank Fitzsimmons Antrim manager up last night as they talked to Gearoid Adams.

Didn't they discuss the black card last night and also mention about how it spoils games with guys getting sent off far to early.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on May 22, 2017, 02:28:34 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 22, 2017, 01:20:38 PM
Or if you are a small player, you can take up to 24 little quick steps.
This is why the rule should state a number of seconds rather than a number of steps, in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 24, 2017, 07:05:23 AM
It only took 14 years but Pat finally realises what we all knew for a long time.......he talks out of his arse!

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/my-puke-football-jibe-wrong-says-pat-spillane-450776.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 24, 2017, 10:22:02 AM
Amazing that he's finally accepted that Tyrone had to make a stand that day and not just continue to stand back and let Kerry play. It's only now that he sees Kerry have had to do the same with the Dubs and do whatever it takes to not let them play their own game.

It must have been hard for him the write that article.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Taylor on May 24, 2017, 10:26:39 AM
No shock there. Any honest person would have admitted it a long time ago.

One of the best games of all time on a number of levels and it is rare all things come together like that.

A quarter of that performance on Sunday would guarantee a 10 point victory
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 24, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
He is not acknowledging Tyrone, he is getting his excuses for Kerry in early. He knows what is coming down the line.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 24, 2017, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 24, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
He is not acknowledging Tyrone, he is getting his excuses for Kerry in early. He knows what is coming down the line.

Hit the nail on the head
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on May 24, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Ye sure?  :o

"What they were doing was spot on because they were the first ever team from Ulster to come to Croke Park and say, 'We're not going to stand back and admire these boys. We're going to get into them.' And they did and they upset us and we didn't like it.

"We still don't like it and maybe I would accept criticism that I didn't give them the credit they deserved for their All-Ireland victory, which was well deserved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 24, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 24, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Ye sure?  :o


Yes! But don't worry. Whether Spillane gives that Tyrone team credit or not for their achievement(s) really does not matter. What matters is that the engravings for '03, '05 and '08 acknowledge this and nothing can take that away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2017, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 24, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on May 24, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
Ye sure?  :o


Yes! But don't worry. Whether Spillane gives that Tyrone team credit or not for their achievement(s) really does not matter. What matters is that the engravings for '03, '05 and '08 acknowledge this and nothing can take that away.
Those wins really stick in the Kerry craw.

It comes up in the Brolly discussion about the Gooch and Spillane wouldn't admit it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyAZy4cM8uE
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on May 28, 2017, 03:35:21 PM
The guy that edits the highlights footage is now doubt glad that Brennan point went over.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: glens73 on May 28, 2017, 03:36:02 PM
Spillane "Tyrone are a top 4 team, possibly top 6 team"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on May 28, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
Spillane is terrible does he do any background work at all. I could offer more from the limited amount of football I can watch on Gaago and reading gaaboard
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on May 28, 2017, 04:02:14 PM
Any streams lads? This is doing my head in!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 28, 2017, 07:46:21 PM
So I'm betting Galway v Dublin first this evening with indepth analysis followed by two minutes of highlights from offaly v Westmeath and laois v Wexford

Then more Derry v Tyrone and analysis
Followed by 2 mins highlights of Cork v Waterford, London v Leitrim and Clare v limerick
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on May 28, 2017, 09:42:41 PM
Des Cahill referring to Ger Loughnane as "Ger Canning"........

???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 28, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
Why oh why

I want to see action from Mullingar or Portlaoise
Not a replay of the live game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Londons Connacht championship games normally gets two minutes of highlights on the Sunday game but tonight it seems RTE didn't bother to send a camera over to Ruislip?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Londons Connacht championship games normally gets two minutes of highlights on the Sunday game but tonight it seems RTE didn't bother to send a camera over to Ruislip?
Maybe the British airways IT crash interfered with plans
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: timmyot501 on May 28, 2017, 10:59:04 PM
Leitrim sub finishes off 2 superb goals. Both worth another look in my opinion. Instead des makes a remark on how many goals tomas scored in his career. Sums it up really
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on May 28, 2017, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Londons Connacht championship games normally gets two minutes of highlights on the Sunday game but tonight it seems RTE didn't bother to send a camera over to Ruislip?
Maybe the British airways IT crash interfered with plans

I see they have a nice new stand at Ruislip also,
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40071489
disappointing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 29, 2017, 12:19:17 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on May 28, 2017, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 28, 2017, 10:05:29 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2017, 10:03:59 PM
Londons Connacht championship games normally gets two minutes of highlights on the Sunday game but tonight it seems RTE didn't bother to send a camera over to Ruislip?
Maybe the British airways IT crash interfered with plans

I see they have a nice new stand at Ruislip also,
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40071489
disappointing
They showed their usual 2 minute clip, right at the end of the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 29, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
I watched the intro last night and switched it off almost immediately.
No interest in Des Cahill trying to turn TSG into soccer AM with his 'banter'.
Also, they've obviously re-jigged the look of the show to resonate with simpletons who spend most of their lives on social media.
No doubt that's the result of some focus group or other.
I do not care for it one bit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 29, 2017, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
I watched the intro last night and switched it off almost immediately.
No interest in Des Cahill trying to turn TSG into soccer AM with his 'banter'.
Also, they've obviously re-jigged the look of the show to resonate with simpletons who spend most of their lives on social media.
No doubt that's the result of some focus group or other.
I do not care for it one bit.
#LOLZ
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 29, 2017, 09:13:06 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
I watched the intro last night and switched it off almost immediately.
No interest in Des Cahill trying to turn TSG into soccer AM with his 'banter'.
Also, they've obviously re-jigged the look of the show to resonate with simpletons who spend most of their lives on social media.
No doubt that's the result of some focus group or other.
I do not care for it one bit.
#LOLZ
#bantz
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 29, 2017, 12:07:39 PM
#shurlookit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 29, 2017, 12:18:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
I watched the intro last night and switched it off almost immediately.
No interest in Des Cahill trying to turn TSG into soccer AM with his 'banter'.
Also, they've obviously re-jigged the look of the show to resonate with simpletons who spend most of their lives on social media.
No doubt that's the result of some focus group or other.
I do not care for it one bit.

Nobody has any length of an attention span anym...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Avondhu star on May 29, 2017, 12:22:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 29, 2017, 09:11:15 AM
I watched the intro last night and switched it off almost immediately.
No interest in Des Cahill trying to turn TSG into soccer AM with his 'banter'.
Also, they've obviously re-jigged the look of the show to resonate with simpletons who spend most of their lives on social media.
No doubt that's the result of some focus group or other.
I do not care for it one bit.

But Dessie is a real celebrity now after Dancing with the Stars.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
I've series record set on TSG, watched Down game live earlier & couldn't believe the standard of commentary so just gone back to check some of it now. Here's Martin Carney when asked to build up the game just prior to throw-in:
"Look at Down for openers, like in the last 3 years, they've played something I think like 7 games and in championship, they've only won 1 & that was eh eh against Leitrim I think in qualifiers"
WTF is that for delivery, it's a f*cking joke that we pay a license fee to listen to this chancer. Have Down played 7 games with only 1 championship win in last 3 years or is this what Martin thinks?? These are simple facts which should be easily delivered by someone with any competence. RTE are sadly lacking in this
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 04, 2017, 10:09:20 PM
Tsg with des cahill in charge is really just fit for recording and fast forwarding through the crap to see the actual matches and that is it. Has been for years.

Brolly is full of crap, tomas o'se is heading that way too. Whelan or dolan aren't great either. Cahill wants banter and/or controversy.

The whole thing needs rethought and a whole new cast entirely but no one ever seems accountable for anything on the show as it is all we've got so still gets viewing figures.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 04, 2017, 10:31:59 PM
After Shane O'Donnell's post match interview Des, classy as ever, just said "...the big smily head on him!" Jaysus, fecking Christ this is brutal.

Did anyone notice the banger going off at full time? Some noise off it, the whole terrace behind the goals will need fresh drawers after that!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 04, 2017, 10:40:40 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2017, 10:31:59 PM
After Shane O'Donnell's post match interview Des, classy as ever, just said "...the big smily head on him!" Jaysus, fecking Christ this is brutal.

Did anyone notice the banger going off at full time? Some noise off it, the whole terrace behind the goals will need fresh drawers after that!
Unfortunately I'm without a tv. Doesn't seem I'm missing much with the shit that Des has said that's posted on this board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
I've series record set on TSG, watched Down game live earlier & couldn't believe the standard of commentary so just gone back to check some of it now. Here's Martin Carney when asked to build up the game just prior to throw-in:
"Look at Down for openers, like in the last 3 years, they've played something I think like 7 games and in championship, they've only won 1 & that was eh eh against Leitrim I think in qualifiers"
WTF is that for delivery, it's a f*cking joke that we pay a license fee to listen to this chancer. Have Down played 7 games with only 1 championship win in last 3 years or is this what Martin thinks?? These are simple facts which should be easily delivered by someone with any competence. RTE are sadly lacking in this

Was he wrong?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on June 04, 2017, 10:43:28 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 10:40:55 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
I've series record set on TSG, watched Down game live earlier & couldn't believe the standard of commentary so just gone back to check some of it now. Here's Martin Carney when asked to build up the game just prior to throw-in:
"Look at Down for openers, like in the last 3 years, they've played something I think like 7 games and in championship, they've only won 1 & that was eh eh against Leitrim I think in qualifiers"
WTF is that for delivery, it's a f*cking joke that we pay a license fee to listen to this chancer. Have Down played 7 games with only 1 championship win in last 3 years or is this what Martin thinks?? These are simple facts which should be easily delivered by someone with any competence. RTE are sadly lacking in this

Was he wrong?

Unfortunately not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
It's not whether he's wrong or not, he's meant to be delivering facts or stats but he can't even put it into a coherent sentence. He says he thinks they beat Letrim, either they did or didn't & you've had all week to do your research. And the constant "eh, like, eh" is embarassingly amateurish
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
It's not whether he's wrong or not, he's meant to be delivering facts or stats but he can't even put it into a coherent sentence. He says he thinks they beat Letrim, either they did or didn't & you've had all week to do your research. And the constant "eh, like, eh" is embarassingly amateurish

OK but that seems minor in comparison to some of the other faults the programme has
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
It's not whether he's wrong or not, he's meant to be delivering facts or stats but he can't even put it into a coherent sentence. He says he thinks they beat Letrim, either they did or didn't & you've had all week to do your research. And the constant "eh, like, eh" is embarassingly amateurish

OK but that seems minor in comparison to some of the other faults the programme has
That's just 1 example of many. Ger Canning is rubbish too, he referred to Jarlath Burns as ex Down captain at 1 stage. They should both be dispensed with, it's a woeful standard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
It's not whether he's wrong or not, he's meant to be delivering facts or stats but he can't even put it into a coherent sentence. He says he thinks they beat Letrim, either they did or didn't & you've had all week to do your research. And the constant "eh, like, eh" is embarassingly amateurish

OK but that seems minor in comparison to some of the other faults the programme has
And it's not a minor issue that the "expert" analyst can't string a sensible coherent sentence together
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on June 04, 2017, 11:22:05 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
It's not whether he's wrong or not, he's meant to be delivering facts or stats but he can't even put it into a coherent sentence. He says he thinks they beat Letrim, either they did or didn't & you've had all week to do your research. And the constant "eh, like, eh" is embarassingly amateurish

OK but that seems minor in comparison to some of the other faults the programme has
That's just 1 example of many. Ger Canning is rubbish too, he referred to Jarlath Burns as ex Down captain at 1 stage. They should both be dispensed with, it's a woeful standard.

Kevin McKernan also "ruined the game" for doing something that Armagh were castigated for not doing against Tipp.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 04, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
Spillane and O Rourke. Holy fook. Taking some shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 11:34:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 04, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
Spillane and O Rourke. Holy fook. Taking some shite.

And the presenter talking more shite than the pair of them
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 04, 2017, 11:36:11 PM
Spillane goes to say something and interrupts himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on June 04, 2017, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2017, 10:31:59 PM
After Shane O'Donnell's post match interview Des, classy as ever, just said "...the big smily head on him!" Jaysus, fecking Christ this is brutal.

Did anyone notice the banger going off at full time? Some noise off it, the whole terrace behind the goals will need fresh drawers after that!

Yes I was there and the banger went off on the stroke of full time. Instead of the usual roar of the final whistle there was complete silence until everyone realised that it was just a banger. Strange times we live in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ohtoohtobe on June 05, 2017, 03:05:40 AM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
I've series record set on TSG, watched Down game live earlier & couldn't believe the standard of commentary so just gone back to check some of it now. Here's Martin Carney when asked to build up the game just prior to throw-in:
"Look at Down for openers, like in the last 3 years, they've played something I think like 7 games and in championship, they've only won 1 & that was eh eh against Leitrim I think in qualifiers"
WTF is that for delivery, it's a f*cking joke that we pay a license fee to listen to this chancer. Have Down played 7 games with only 1 championship win in last 3 years or is this what Martin thinks?? These are simple facts which should be easily delivered by someone with any competence. RTE are sadly lacking in this

Agree and also noticed Paul Earley on Sky talking about Carlow beating Wexford "in Wexford Park" and twice asserting that Carlow would go straight to round two of the qualifiers.
Too many of them see it as handy cash to talk shyte and don't do even the most basic preparation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on June 05, 2017, 08:39:52 AM
Last night before the Armagh Down match they went back into the archive from 20 years ago and there they were; Lyster, O'Rourke and Spillane talking about that game too.  20 years ago.  Is there nobody at all in there who is prepared to say like U2 did after the Joshua Tree, OK lads, we need to go and rethink the whole thing again from the start, come up with a whole new format, brand new guests, people who really know what they're talking about.  It's an old pals club and the real problem is that the Head of Sport in RTE doesn't give a damn about the GAA.  This should be their main programme - the national broadcaster covering the national game.  It should be front and centre of every single consideration in RTE sport.  But yesterday we had the Armagh Down game covered live from the studio rather than on location.  ffs, even BBCNI go to the game lads!  The same in the League highlights show.  They will cover the three games shown by Eirsport the night before, then the two games covered by Tg4 that day (because they get them cheap) and that's it.  Cheap and not even cheerful.  They should be sitting around a table saying 'OK lads, what games weren't on the telly today or Saturday night and we'll do a major highlights programme on it.  The national broadcaster and the national game.  No wonder the GAA went to SKY.  They came live from the venue as usual with a real urgency and novelty  to their approach.  The same on Saturday night from Portlaoise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Avondhu star on June 05, 2017, 09:22:59 AM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:21:42 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 04, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Quote from: sambostar on June 04, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
It's not whether he's wrong or not, he's meant to be delivering facts or stats but he can't even put it into a coherent sentence. He says he thinks they beat Letrim, either they did or didn't & you've had all week to do your research. And the constant "eh, like, eh" is embarassingly amateurish

OK but that seems minor in comparison to some of the other faults the programme has
And it's not a minor issue that the "expert" analyst can't string a sensible coherent sentence together
Look yerra both teams have massive respect for each other
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on June 05, 2017, 11:16:04 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 05, 2017, 08:39:52 AMIs there nobody at all in there who is prepared to say ... OK lads, we need to go and rethink the whole thing again from the start, come up with a whole new format, brand new guests, people who really know what they're talking about.


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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2017, 12:28:13 PM
This discussion started in 2008. Any page at random would be up to date . TSG is a  parallel universe
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on June 05, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
I avoided the scores of the two Leinster games yesterday so that I could watch the highlights.

Meathv Louth up first and Dessie asks O'Rourke in the analysis afterwards if he thinks Meath will play a sweeper against Kildare the next day  :-X
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Clinker on June 05, 2017, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on June 05, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
I avoided the scores of the two Leinster games yesterday so that I could watch the highlights.

Meathv Louth up first and Dessie asks O'Rourke in the analysis afterwards if he thinks Meath will play a sweeper against Kildare the next day  :-X


Indeed. It was all over for Laois before the highlights of their game even started.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 05, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
They also showed some of the significant action in the stupid intro sequence, for example, one of the Armagh goals. Total shit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2017, 01:55:03 PM
Yeah, that's really annoying.
Why the hell would you show goals etc. in the intro?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on June 05, 2017, 05:05:46 PM
Funny, I thought the same watching the same two boys 20 years ago coming out with the same negative bullshit.
We're as bad on here now complaining about them.
Scroll back 10 pages and same posts time and again.

Tohill was one of the few that made interesting points and spoke his mind. Brolly did do that at times but he's always got another agenda and wants to save the world.

I can't see them changing much from our comments anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 06, 2017, 04:12:03 AM
RTE buy GAA rights but then are so negative in football. Hurling is great as the 'hurling men' at keast have genuine enthusiasm.
Football is pure doom and gloom with no insight. RTE produce GAA coverage, with rights they have  paid for only to then dog the product out of it.
Its like the continuity announcer saying "Up next its Fair City. Its a load of shite but ye gobshites all seem to watch it..."
Flip it to their rugby coverage and everything is an epic and all the players are heroes. The pundits respect the players too.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 06, 2017, 08:28:13 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on June 06, 2017, 04:12:03 AM
RTE buy GAA rights but then are so negative in football. Hurling is great as the 'hurling men' at keast have genuine enthusiasm.
Football is pure doom and gloom with no insight. RTE produce GAA coverage, with rights they have  paid for only to then dog the product out of it.
Its like the continuity announcer saying "Up next its Fair City. Its a load of shite but ye gobshites all seem to watch it..."
Flip it to their rugby coverage and everything is an epic and all the players are heroes. The pundits respect the players too.
I think hurling is classed by RTE as sport and football is classed as a soap opera.
RTE treats hurling fans as intelligent . Football fans are assumed to be different .
It is the same between TG4 and RTE 1. TG4 viewers are assumed to be able to understand more complex ideas than RTE 1 punters  . They dont get the sane news. Gaelgeoiri dont have to have things spelt out to them.

RTE treats certain viewers as stupid.. For soccer and gaelic-games analysis RTE provide a clown.  Dhera  .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on June 06, 2017, 05:18:42 PM
I think the issue is closer to home than you think. Blaming everyone from rte to refs for the doom and gloom. Why is football treated like a soap opera? Because since the start of the c'hip there has been more talk about what goes on off the pitch than on it. Even Connollys incident happened off the field.
I though Spillane was very positive and generous to football when he called the Armagh Down game a good game and the best game of the season to date. Im almost certain that was not his honest opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 06, 2017, 06:06:14 PM
Quote from: didlyi on June 06, 2017, 05:18:42 PM
I think the issue is closer to home than you think. Blaming everyone from rte to refs for the doom and gloom. Why is football treated like a soap opera? Because since the start of the c'hip there has been more talk about what goes on off the pitch than on it. Even Connollys incident happened off the field.
I though Spillane was very positive and generous to football when he called the Armagh Down game a good game and the best game of the season to date. Im almost certain that was not his honest opinion.

He said best Ulster game to date.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 02:16:46 PM
Martin Carney again

I'm actually turning off the tv commentary
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on June 11, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
Last week Lane let everything go. Today Neilan blows for very little. No wonder players get frustrated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 11, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 02:16:46 PM
Martin Carney again

I'm actually turning off the tv commentary

He is woeful
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mcklatchee on June 11, 2017, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on June 11, 2017, 02:25:48 PM
Last week Lane let everything go. Today Neilan blows for very little. No wonder players get frustrated.

Players get very frustrated with Neilan's style of refereeing but he is interpreting the rule as written. Hard to criticise him. What is being punished as soft frees are still bad tackles.

He obviously missed Wylie's hand off
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 11, 2017, 02:40:11 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 02:16:46 PM
Martin Carney again

I'm actually turning off the tv commentary

For me it's Ger Canning = mute or BBCNI.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on June 11, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
Have to agree, Canning is bad but Carney is brutal, his analysis is just pure shite, is this the best rte can come up with, Sidebottom's a genius compared to these tools!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 03:08:45 PM
Does spillane watch the games? Says "Martin Reilly no where to be seen in forwards" Does he not realise he's playing midfield? Don't get me started on Carney. Totally out of date with modern game. I thought Benny Tierney was good as co-commentator for Cork/Tipp game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 11, 2017, 03:11:08 PM
Quote from: Targetman on June 11, 2017, 02:57:35 PM
Have to agree, Canning is bad but Carney is brutal, his analysis is just pure shite, is this the best rte can come up with, Sidebottom's a genius compared to these tools!!

They are horrible.
Carney now with the chuckle for good measure
They would ruin any game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 03:18:04 PM
Carney must have dirt on someone in RTE. Should have got p45 years ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 04:22:59 PM
Martin Carney drinking game...

"it must be said" - take a drink
"again, ...." - two drinks
"very much so" - shot

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on June 11, 2017, 06:17:18 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 03:18:04 PM
Carney must have dirt on someone in RTE. Should have got p45 years ago.

Carney is awful yet always gets co-commentary gig for all Ireland. Breaks my heart with his idiotic and out of date view of the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
i wonder will sunday game bring up the diving incidents in 2 games today? Some shocking stuff from McManus and Oconnor
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2017, 06:36:39 PM
O`Connor to me from the tv looked like he was body checked, i didnt see the replays. McManus has no excuse, it was going down trying to get a man sent off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 11, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2017, 06:36:39 PM
O`Connor to me from the tv looked like he was body checked, i didnt see the replays. McManus has no excuse, it was going down trying to get a man sent off.

Looked like he blatantly ran into Flynn to me.

Footage at the link below

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/keith-higgins-366875


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 11, 2017, 08:18:07 PM
Was watching the Mayo/Galway game but with Clare/Kerry looking interesting stuck on Radio Kerry, Christ the difference between knowledgeable passionate commentators and Dessie "I can see it right there, watch his lower arm"* Dolan was day and night...

*It was a knew in the balls Dessie....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 11, 2017, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
i wonder will sunday game bring up the diving incidents in 2 games today? Some shocking stuff from McManus and Oconnor

Didn't see the O'Connor one but McManus was embarrassing. This culture needs to be taken out of the game. In hurling you would be ridiculed by your own team mates if you had perpetrated such an act. It happens too often now particularly in the latter stages of matches as players attempt to break up and slow down the game by feigning injury or fouling cynically.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 11, 2017, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 11, 2017, 08:18:07 PM
Was watching the Mayo/Galway game but with Clare/Kerry looking interesting stuck on Radio Kerry, Christ the difference between knowledgeable passionate commentators and Dessie "I can see it right there, watch his lower arm"* Dolan was day and night...

*It was a knew in the balls Dessie....

Reading the reports there sounded like Kerry just about hung in during the first half, but were far too good for Clare in the 2nd half, even with 14 men. Could be a nasty one for Cork in the final.

9 points from O'Donoghue with 5 from play a fair old haul.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 11, 2017, 09:10:06 PM
Sunday Game showing Kerry Clare. Finally learning lessons and not showing games already shown live earlier.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 11, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
I watched first half of Monaghan game on RTE and second on BBC. Thomas Niblock and Marty Clark actually a very good duo, particularly enjoy Clarke's input to the commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 09:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 11, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
I watched first half of Monaghan game on RTE and second on BBC. Thomas Niblock and Marty Clark actually a very good duo, particularly enjoy Clarke's input to the commentary.

I should have switched over to BBC than listening to that clown Carney
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 09:41:15 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 09:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 11, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
I watched first half of Monaghan game on RTE and second on BBC. Thomas Niblock and Marty Clark actually a very good duo, particularly enjoy Clarke's input to the commentary.

I should have switched over to BBC than listening to that clown Carney

Very much so........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 09:41:15 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 09:39:44 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 11, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
I watched first half of Monaghan game on RTE and second on BBC. Thomas Niblock and Marty Clark actually a very good duo, particularly enjoy Clarke's input to the commentary.

I should have switched over to BBC than listening to that clown Carney

Very much so........
It must be said...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 11, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Carney doesn't bother me, but nobody is worse than Ger Canning. Commentating by numbers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 11, 2017, 10:09:50 PM
The commentator on the Wex v KK game reckons it was a "good save" for the Wexford keeper for the balls up for Fennellys goal
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DJGaliv on June 11, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
Dessie Dolan had a great one today, "Galway are playing a zonal defence in that everyone is marking their own man".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: DJGaliv on June 11, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
Dessie Dolan had a great one today, "Galway are playing a zonal defence in that everyone is marking their own man".

Dessie is the Michael Owen of GAA commentary
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
he usually gets advantage as the back is 'fouling him'.
not only that, but he runs into lads and just ploughs on
power hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 11, 2017, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 11, 2017, 10:32:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
he usually gets advantage as the back is 'fouling him'.
not only that, but he runs into lads and just ploughs on
power hurling.
There are a number of ways to stop him.
Get between him and the goal without putting your arms around him or pulling the jersey off him.
Stay with him until he needs to play the ball and try to dispossess him when he tries to play it.

The two lads just hugged, pulled and hauled at him.

The Wexford lads should have got black cards  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 11, 2017, 11:42:56 PM
Quote from: DJGaliv on June 11, 2017, 10:14:57 PM
Dessie Dolan had a great one today, "Galway are playing a zonal defence in that everyone is marking their own man".

Nice bloke but a very bland pundit and co commentator.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on June 12, 2017, 08:21:26 AM
Dessie was one of the cutest hoors on the field that I've ever seen. Could manufacture a free was easily as COC but never got the bad press because he always did it with a smile on his face. He's playing ye like flutes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on June 12, 2017, 08:54:36 AM
Owen Duffy scores a point via the post. McManus jumps for it, gets nowhere it,  yet after a few replays Canning still says it was McManus point. 
Maybe my eyes were deceiving me but it seemed to hit the post a couple of feet above the bar and go over.

He even said "McManus will take the credit for it"......

RTE have to look for fresh young commentators...Canning was decent in his day but its time to move on.......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 12, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
It looked like 3 bouncers trying to drag a fella away from a dance floor fight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 12, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
It looked like 3 bouncers trying to drag a fella away from a dance floor fight.

He did take quite a few steps before he started getting fouled
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Avondhu star on June 12, 2017, 10:23:28 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 12, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
It looked like 3 bouncers trying to drag a fella away from a dance floor fight.
Why bring Diarmuid Connolly into this?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 12, 2017, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2017, 10:03:31 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 12, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2017, 10:13:47 PM
Fennelly catches the ball and drives towards goal!

How do you legally stop him?

He definitely takes more than 4 steps and has his head down.

Not sure of Hurling rules. Can he do that?
It looked like 3 bouncers trying to drag a fella away from a dance floor fight.

He did take quite a few steps before he started getting fouled

What comes first, the overcarrying and barging or the pulling and dragging? Both need refereed properly or its going to descend into a bigger farce that it already is, but then that doesn't feed into the hurling mantra of letting the game flow or its a manly game (c) Eddie Keher when KK were cutting lumps out of everyone, but on Saturday they got out bullied by a bigger team.

On the second KK penalty, a lovely, timely shove by Fennelly allowed him the space to catch the ball and run through to be dragged down.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 13, 2017, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 12, 2017, 12:54:03 PM
What comes first, the overcarrying and barging or the pulling and dragging? Both need refereed properly or its going to descend into a bigger farce that it already is, but then that doesn't feed into the hurling mantra of letting the game flow or its a manly game (c) Eddie Keher when KK were cutting lumps out of everyone, but on Saturday they got out bullied by a bigger team.
It's funny how opinions can change with time and circumstances.
I remember the day after 1998 All Ireland final, Eddie Keher had a newspaper column where he suggested that Joe Errity had gotten away with charging for the goal he scored.
https://youtu.be/1mSMlPSEpMk Go to 4:00

It wouldn't be considered unusual in the current collision oriented game.
Nowadays he would be wrapped up with the spare arm instead of an attempted shoulder challenge.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 15, 2017, 02:44:08 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 13, 2017, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 12, 2017, 12:54:03 PM
What comes first, the overcarrying and barging or the pulling and dragging? Both need refereed properly or its going to descend into a bigger farce that it already is, but then that doesn't feed into the hurling mantra of letting the game flow or its a manly game (c) Eddie Keher when KK were cutting lumps out of everyone, but on Saturday they got out bullied by a bigger team.
It's funny how opinions can change with time and circumstances.
I remember the day after 1998 All Ireland final, Eddie Keher had a newspaper column where he suggested that Joe Errity had gotten away with charging for the goal he scored.
https://youtu.be/1mSMlPSEpMk Go to 4:00

It wouldn't be considered unusual in the current collision oriented game.
Nowadays he would be wrapped up with the spare arm instead of an attempted shoulder challenge.

Very few shoulder charges now and as you say the spare arm would be wrapped around you and pulling away at you, hence the overcarrying or is it the other way round  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 15, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
And if a referee did blow up it up for the obvious charging in every game, then the likes of Cody et al would be all over the media saying 'its a man's game' and 'let them hurl' etc

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on June 16, 2017, 08:17:30 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 15, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
And if a referee did blow up it up for the obvious charging in every game, then the likes of Cody et al would be all over the media saying 'its a man's game' and 'let them hurl' etc


He may have changed his tune after Wexford roughed up a lot of those KK forwards on Saturday night.

Never thought I'd say that     :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 16, 2017, 03:07:37 PM
Moving away from that incident has anyone seen GAA Now? I am abroad now so its great to see the replays and then by that night sine games have a highlights reel up of around 2-3 mins.
Considering the analysis is so basic at time on the TV and some counties only get two mins anyway its a great resource.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 18, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
O Rourke today in Independent basically says Tyrone invented defensive football. This misconception drives me mad. Tyrone were all about swarming around the player in possession and turning over the ball. This often happened in opposition's full back line. It was based on fitness and intensity. There was no move to bring players back into defensive positions. There a video on Youtube of Kerry playing Cavan in 1997 doing the exact same thing but Spillane didn't call them out for it and only years later described it as puke football when Tyrone done it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 18, 2017, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 18, 2017, 01:03:07 PM
O Rourke today in Independent basically says Tyrone invented defensive football. This misconception drives me mad. Tyrone were all about swarming around the player in possession and turning over the ball. This often happened in opposition's full back line. It was based on fitness and intensity. There was no move to bring players back into defensive positions. There a video on Youtube of Kerry playing Cavan in 1997 doing the exact same thing but Spillane didn't call them out for it and only years later described it as puke football when Tyrone done it.

Pat always looks the other way when comes to Kerry's antics. Michael Donnellan was taken out 5 in All Ireland final in 2000 against Kerry and no mention of that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 18, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
Will we see Cake this year - I miss his theories on triangles!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on June 18, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
Gooch has had the teeth whitened!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 18, 2017, 01:53:25 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on June 18, 2017, 01:48:16 PM
Gooch has had the teeth whitened!

3 piece in that heat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2017, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on June 18, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
Will we see Cake this year - I miss his theories on triangles!

Yes, I'm here  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on June 18, 2017, 02:53:58 PM
Fuk me I though Dessie Dolan was alright a few years back but he's friggin useless. Like listening to paint dry too
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2017, 02:58:33 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 18, 2017, 02:53:58 PM
Fuk me I though Dessie Dolan was alright a few years back but he's friggin useless. Like listening to paint dry too

I like Dessie but he's definitely on his way to developing into the new Martin Carney.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 18, 2017, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2017, 02:58:33 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 18, 2017, 02:53:58 PM
Fuk me I though Dessie Dolan was alright a few years back but he's friggin useless. Like listening to paint dry too

I like Dessie but he's definitely on his way to developing into the new Martin Carney.

Big smiley head on him - and not much else going on
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on June 18, 2017, 03:30:03 PM
rte sport obviously happy to employ a commentator who doesn't know the black card rule
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on June 24, 2017, 10:52:45 PM
Don't know what w**ker you were subjected to but Peter Mc ginnity was on RTÉ radio 1 and he was fantastic. He needs to be doing co-commentator for the Ulster final imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 24, 2017, 10:59:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2017, 02:58:33 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 18, 2017, 02:53:58 PM
Fuk me I though Dessie Dolan was alright a few years back but he's friggin useless. Like listening to paint dry too

I like Dessie but he's definitely on his way to developing into the new Martin Carney.

He really is. It's cliche afte cliche, with little analysis of any real depth...which is the whole point of having a former player on. I have no idea why he gets so many high profile gigs doing match commentary too. Why not give Tomas O'Se or Ciaran Whelan or Oisin McConville a shot at it too? Don't just limit them to doing the studio punditry. They'd offer a lot more imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 24, 2017, 11:53:34 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 24, 2017, 10:52:45 PM
Don't know what w**ker you were subjected to but Peter Mc ginnity was on RTÉ radio 1 and he was fantastic. He needs to be doing co-commentator for the Ulster final imo.

Yeah, he Was good
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2017, 12:22:28 AM
Tommy Carr
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Duckquay on June 25, 2017, 11:07:02 AM
Dolan absolutely shocking. He was previewing on the radio Friday morning, complete drivel just. I know there are time constraints but he was just shocking
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
Jaysus Pat loves a stat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2017, 05:49:47 PM
Teaching us about politics and football now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 25, 2017, 06:29:42 PM
Someone should have a word with Kevin about Monaghan and Donegal no longer being top teams, but he was ok otherwise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 09:49:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 25, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
Is Brolly for real? Coming from him?

KETTLE POT BLACK!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 25, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
He's just taking a contrary position cos that's what he does
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on June 25, 2017, 09:53:42 PM
Could we get a transcript of what dessie said there? It sounded like he said f**k all yet he talked for 2 minutes!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 25, 2017, 10:00:11 PM
I'm no fan of Spillane's but the idea that this was some sort of Kerry (or Meath) hatchet job is laughable.
He pushed an official, he got suspended.
Move on ffs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 25, 2017, 10:02:37 PM
Joe. We know you are out there. That was hilarious coming from you.  😂.
Regardless of whether Connolly was to get zero to 12 weeks it's a paltry personal and team punishment compared to the media campaign orchestrated by Dublin figures last year in relation to Lee keegan which won Dublin atheir last all Ireland in my opinion. Dubs and Kerry games happen on and off the field. lads there's other teams involved and it really only escalates to national concern when the dubs and Kerry turn on each other. Ffs Connolly really doesn't miss much judging by today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2017, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 25, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
Is Brolly for real? Coming from him?
I nearly choked on my tea when i heard him say a Westmeath blanket defence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mackers on June 25, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
 Not sure about Joe's glorification of two Down players dropping the knees on Conor McManus either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: mackers on June 25, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
Not sure about Joe's glorification of two Down players dropping the knees on Conor McManus either.

Like most human beings, Joe is a Barrel of contradictions!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 10:38:28 PM
Some one tell Joe Emlyn Mulligan has done his Cruciate!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on June 25, 2017, 11:29:31 PM
Incidently it's a pity Harte never thought of the open press conference. Would have saved a lot of widespread criticism. Expect the media backlash to Gavin to be huge. There is precedent. I don't blame him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on June 25, 2017, 11:37:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 10:38:28 PM
Some one tell Joe Emlyn Mulligan has done his Cruciate!
Joe said Emlyn Mulligan told him that he stopped playing for Leitrim because whats the point..

Joe is total bullshit artist
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on June 25, 2017, 11:40:52 PM
Brolly all over the place tonight.

He was advocating a grading system of hands on officlals. Some example to youngsters.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on June 26, 2017, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: mackers on June 25, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
Not sure about Joe's glorification of two Down players dropping the knees on Conor McManus either.

Like most human beings, Joe is a Barrel of contradictions!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on June 26, 2017, 12:48:06 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 26, 2017, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: mackers on June 25, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
Not sure about Joe's glorification of two Down players dropping the knees on Conor McManus either.

Like most human beings, Joe is a Barrel of contradictions w**ker!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2017, 01:04:30 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 26, 2017, 12:48:06 AM
Quote from: trileacman on June 26, 2017, 12:47:10 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 25, 2017, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: mackers on June 25, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
Not sure about Joe's glorification of two Down players dropping the knees on Conor McManus either.

Like most human beings, Joe is a Barrel of contradictions w**ker!

He's also a BIG BOY!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2017, 01:16:55 AM
Found it gas on the Sunday Game that Des Rhetorically said that Pat Spillane was not on the show to defend himself. As to what he did and did not say. Funny they did not say the same a few weeks ago that Connolly was not on the show to defend himself when O'Rourke and Spillane was knocking him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: skeog on June 26, 2017, 04:34:50 AM
Uproar when Ricey dropped his knee a few tears ago now its wonderful anarchism according to Joe.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on June 26, 2017, 07:21:06 AM
Quote from: skeog on June 26, 2017, 04:34:50 AM
Uproar when Ricey dropped his knee a few tears ago now its wonderful anarchism according to Joe.

Scandalous from Brolly lauding serious foul play and totally hypocritical when if it had been a county he didn't like he would have been calling for suspensions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: orangeman on June 26, 2017, 08:50:41 AM
If it's entertainment and controvesy you want then the Sunday game will deliver.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 26, 2017, 09:31:53 AM
Brolly brings nothing to the table, only talking over people and forcing his opinion on people. I honestly can't stand listening to him. Constantly interrupting the flow of other pundits conversation. If you had a child doing similar, you'd hit them a cuff on the ear and tell them to shut up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stew on June 26, 2017, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: skeog on June 26, 2017, 04:34:50 AM
Uproar when Ricey dropped his knee a few tears ago now its wonderful anarchism according to Joe.

Ricey acted the tr**p and rightly got lambasted over it, Brolly talking out of both sides of his mouth is hardly a suprise now is it?

Do mot lessen whst Rice did to make a point, neither is acceptable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Taylor on June 26, 2017, 09:37:12 AM
Ricey got pulled to pieces for dropping the knee a few years back. If it had been nowadays he would have been hung, drawn & quartered by TSG analysts (I use that term very loosely). Personally didnt think Ricey meant it

Disgraceful for Brolly to think it is ok to do this.

Why did trial by TV not happen last night? A ban should be the order of the day for that incident. Lets see if this happens
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on June 26, 2017, 09:38:22 AM
The part after the break when Cahill said Brolly wanted to say something about the influence of pundits and Brooklyn tried to make a 'joke' about Dessie Dolan using his influence to get into the Leinster Hall of Gane. What was the point of this?? Any good presenter would have told Brolly where to go if he'd asked him to do that during the break.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on June 26, 2017, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2017, 09:37:12 AM
Ricey got pulled to pieces for dropping the knee a few years back. If it had been nowadays he would have been hung, drawn & quartered by TSG analysts (I use that term very loosely). Personally didnt think Ricey meant it

Disgraceful for Brolly to think it is ok to do this.

Why did trial by TV not happen last night? A ban should be the order of the day for that incident. Lets see if this happens

Seriously? Of course he meant to do it. Jeez man take off the blinkers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 26, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: square_ball on June 26, 2017, 09:38:22 AM
The part after the break when Cahill said Brolly wanted to say something about the influence of pundits and Brooklyn tried to make a 'joke' about Dessie Dolan using his influence to get into the Leinster Hall of Gane. What was the point of this?? Any good presenter would have told Brolly where to go if he'd asked him to do that during the break.

Like I say, he brings nothing to the table. He puts others off their stride with his butting in and talking over people. Seriously, rte need to shove him out the door. He's ruining TSG.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 26, 2017, 10:02:58 AM
I'm no Dublin fan but Brolly was correct on calling out Spillane on the Connolly hatchet job. Spillane was speaking as a Kerry supporter and not as an impartial pundit. To my knowledge he never commented or criticised the Kerry failed drugs test so he is totally hypocritical.

As for Brolly he is also selective in who or what he criticises. He is in love with Down so he decided to eulogise knee dropping as 'anarchy' and 'chaos' as he called it. If this had been Tyrone I can only think that the narrative would have been totally different.

Hypocrisy of the highest order from both Spillane and Brolly.     
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on June 26, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2017, 09:37:12 AM
Ricey got pulled to pieces for dropping the knee a few years back. If it had been nowadays he would have been hung, drawn & quartered by TSG analysts (I use that term very loosely). Personally didnt think Ricey meant it

Disgraceful for Brolly to think it is ok to do this.

Why did trial by TV not happen last night? A ban should be the order of the day for that incident. Lets see if this happens

You'll be needing a search party to help find your credibility after that gem
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on June 26, 2017, 10:52:05 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 26, 2017, 10:49:35 AM
Quote from: Taylor on June 26, 2017, 09:37:12 AM
Ricey got pulled to pieces for dropping the knee a few years back. If it had been nowadays he would have been hung, drawn & quartered by TSG analysts (I use that term very loosely). Personally didnt think Ricey meant it

Disgraceful for Brolly to think it is ok to do this.

Why did trial by TV not happen last night? A ban should be the order of the day for that incident. Lets see if this happens

You'll be needing a search party to help find your credibility after that gem

True and Im from Tyrone
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 02, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
Fitzgerald collides with his teammate. "Absolutely no malice," says Carney.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 02, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: Hardy on July 02, 2017, 03:10:00 PM
Fitzgerald collides with his teammate. "Absolutely no malice," says Carney.

You'd hope so
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 02, 2017, 03:19:49 PM
Canning and Carney, the nightmare commentary duo, constant pearls of wisdom.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 02, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
Canning was commentating with Benny Tierney as his sidekick last night for Mayo v Derry. He mentioned Benny winning the AI in 2002 and then said..."there's Damien Barton who won it the following year." Like I mean FFS.. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on July 02, 2017, 03:49:50 PM
Canning is awful but Carney is possibly the worst summariser out there (Dessie Dolan's brutal also), they should be made to listen back to every thing they said, embarrassing!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 02, 2017, 03:52:12 PM
Can't wait for Marty's usual geography lesson today, about mountain ranges, rivers you, lakes etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 02, 2017, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 02, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
Canning was commentating with Benny Tierney as his sidekick last night for Mayo v Derry. He mentioned Benny winning the AI in 2002 and then said..."there's Damien Barton who won it the following year." Like I mean FFS.. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Aye I heard that one.

And what about that big GAA stronghold of Benburb?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 02, 2017, 04:32:41 PM
Quote from: Targetman on July 02, 2017, 03:49:50 PM
Canning is awful but Carney is possibly the worst summariser out there (Dessie Dolan's brutal also), they should be made to listen back to every thing they said, embarrassing!

Tommy would be in the running as well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 02, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
Marty: Chin's father from China, mother from Wexford. I was just waiting for it... but it didn't arrive  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 02, 2017, 04:55:45 PM
Canning is always amazed when anyone wearing 2-4 is in the opposition half or similarly 13-15 back in their own half. Also any save is just a brilliant save no matter if it was rolled along the ground and the keeper had time to tie his laces before saving it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 02, 2017, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 02, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
Canning was commentating with Benny Tierney as his sidekick last night for Mayo v Derry. He mentioned Benny winning the AI in 2002 and then said..."there's Damien Barton who won it the following year." Like I mean FFS.. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

Better one in second half of extra time and Mayo up by six or so, Mayo rightfully using their bench and a few veterans taken off. Danny Kirby was introduced with about five minutes to go for Kevin McLaughlin who got a rousing cheer for his efforts, Canning " Danny Kirby just introduced and he is getting a rousing welcome, he is a local lad...."  wtf.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on July 02, 2017, 04:57:08 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 02, 2017, 04:55:45 PM
Canning is always amazed when anyone wearing 2-4 is in the opposition half or similarly 13-15 back in their own half. Also any save is just a brilliant save no matter if it was rolled along the ground and the keeper had time to tie his laces before saving it.

He has no idea what he is looking at. Absolutely none.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 02, 2017, 05:00:47 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 26, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: square_ball on June 26, 2017, 09:38:22 AM
The part after the break when Cahill said Brolly wanted to say something about the influence of pundits and Brooklyn tried to make a 'joke' about Dessie Dolan using his influence to get into the Leinster Hall of Gane. What was the point of this?? Any good presenter would have told Brolly where to go if he'd asked him to do that during the break.

Like I say, he brings nothing to the table. He puts others off their stride with his butting in and talking over people. Seriously, rte need to shove him out the door. He's ruining TSG.

Putting the likes of Whelan, Spillane and O'Rourke off their stride is no harm to be fair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 02, 2017, 05:01:45 PM
Canning is annoying when after a score. It's now 4 points to 3. Yes, I can see that! Commentary by numbers, little imagination from him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 02, 2017, 05:09:05 PM
'His fourth ever championship goal' or whatever the case may be after every...single...goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on July 02, 2017, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 02, 2017, 05:09:05 PM
'His fourth ever championship goal' or whatever the case may be after every...single...goal.
And how many minutes are gone...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 02, 2017, 06:41:26 PM
After one Kerry score from Murphy he said Donaghy was involved from the start.  Kerry FB charged up field 70 yards, laid ball of the Donaghy who laid off to Murphy to score. They showed the replay and he still says Donaghy involved from the start.... The standard of commentary is pathetic, patronising, dumbed down and utterly awful.. then it's over to Des in studio tonight to top things off.... Does RTE understand these are our national games, not 6 nations or LOI nonsense... Time to get new blood in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kilkevan on July 02, 2017, 06:46:31 PM
Gotta love the way Michael Lyster announced, twice, that the post match discussion continued on Facebook but didn't tell you which sodding page to go to... I tried RTÉ 2's page, RTÉ's sport page and The Sunday Game page and couldn't find anything.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 02, 2017, 07:23:52 PM
Mentioned it on the match thread yesterday, Flynn on radio 1 talking about derry's "great run through the qualifiers" - an away win against Waterford ffs  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 03, 2017, 07:56:13 AM
Slightly off topic but Eamon O'Hara came out with a stinker on RTE radio1 when covering the match with Carty. After a Kerry player scored a point (may have been O'Donaghue) he said "like the postman, he always delivers."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 03, 2017, 10:20:19 AM
It was great to hear Henry Shefflin saying the Kilkenny forwards are not up to scratch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 03, 2017, 10:29:55 AM
Quote from: Kilkevan on July 02, 2017, 06:46:31 PM
Gotta love the way Michael Lyster announced, twice, that the post match discussion continued on Facebook but didn't tell you which sodding page to go to... I tried RTÉ 2's page, RTÉ's sport page and The Sunday Game page and couldn't find anything.

Gave up trying to find it too, ridiculous. Amateur hour over there under Ryle Rugger Nugent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 03, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 03, 2017, 07:56:13 AM
Slightly off topic but Eamon O'Hara came out with a stinker on RTE radio1 when covering the match with Carty. After a Kerry player scored a point (may have been O'Donaghue) he said "like the postman, he always delivers."
Dessie stuttered a bit mid-sentence when making that utterance. I suspect he was worried if there was an associated innuendo to the expression, lucky for him he didn't say milkman instead of postman.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: red hander on July 03, 2017, 09:51:35 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 03, 2017, 09:20:40 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 03, 2017, 07:56:13 AM
Slightly off topic but Eamon O'Hara came out with a stinker on RTE radio1 when covering the match with Carty. After a Kerry player scored a point (may have been O'Donaghue) he said "like the postman, he always delivers."
Dessie stuttered a bit mid-sentence when making that utterance. I suspect he was worried if there was an associated innuendo to the expression, lucky for him he didn't say milkman instead of postman.

He must be taking lessons from Sidearse on the BBC
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +

Ah Marty "the tension is palpable" Morrissey
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +

Ah Marty "the tension is palpable" Morrissey

The tension does be fairly palpable in my house when I hear Marty is commentating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on July 04, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Didnt mickey harte tell us years ago Brian carthy was the man to take over.
a proper Gaa man
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on July 04, 2017, 11:59:13 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +

Ah Marty "the tension is palpable" Morrissey

The tension does be fairly palpable in my house when I hear Marty is commentating.
Yep, find him even less bearable than Canning, and worse again on the radio if he's commentating there.

A continuous loop of him and Carr or Carney on commentary would be an effective torture technique I reckon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 04, 2017, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 04, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Didnt mickey harte tell us years ago Brian carthy was the man to take over.
a proper Gaa man
Did you ever look at his twitter? He is a GAA fundamentalist. No other interests
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 04, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 04, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Didnt mickey harte tell us years ago Brian carthy was the man to take over.
a proper Gaa man

And he's still boycotting rte over carty not getting the job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 04, 2017, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +

Ah Marty "the tension is palpable" Morrissey

The tension does be fairly palpable in my house when I hear Marty is commentating.

I honestly can't understand how he is not just still at it, but seems to have even more power within RTE now
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 04, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 04, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 04, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Didnt mickey harte tell us years ago Brian carthy was the man to take over.
a proper Gaa man

And he's still boycotting rte over carty not getting the job.

You're either a gombeen or have a touch of nastiness if you're espousing that Harte is boycotting RTE as a result of Carty' s treatment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 04, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2017, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +

Ah Marty "the tension is palpable" Morrissey

The tension does be fairly palpable in my house when I hear Marty is commentating.

I honestly can't understand how he is not just still at it, but seems to have even more power within RTE now

I don't mind Marty so much, he's excited by the game as opposed to all the negative c***ts RTÉ have on the books. Can't stand the sight of him but don't mind the commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LCohen on July 04, 2017, 07:12:44 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 04, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 04, 2017, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 03, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 02, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
Marty didn't disappoint with the "there are footballers in ......." when Lee Chin kicked the ball, he has been at that shite for 20 years +

Ah Marty "the tension is palpable" Morrissey


The tension does be fairly palpable in my house when I hear Marty is commentating.

I honestly can't understand how he is not just still at it, but seems to have even more power within RTE now

I don't mind Marty so much, he's excited by the game as opposed to all the negative c***ts RTÉ have on the books. Can't stand the sight of him but don't mind the commentary.

Rte is stocked to the gills with poor commentators and shite talking pundits. That has nothing to do with their negativity. There have been brutal games and performances, inept managerial performances and ultra negative tactics. It's totally appropriate to call these out. Likewise cheating and diving. If the offering is worthy of negative comment then that is what it should get.

We need pundits that can tell shit from clay and call it for what it is. Otherwise what's the point?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 04, 2017, 07:13:59 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.

Yup, totally agree.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 04, 2017, 08:34:58 PM
How has Gooch been so far?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on July 04, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
Woeful shirt on Sunday for gooch!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 04, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Nail hit on the head right there Croí...they have the best GAA presenter in the country sitting right under their nose and he is being "wasted" doing (albeit) very good documentaries on TG4. He should have some role in fronting or presenting the RTE GAA flagship coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on July 04, 2017, 10:43:37 PM
Don't think gooch will be good pundit, just another who states the obvious and too civil to be controversial
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southtyronegael on July 04, 2017, 10:45:43 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 04, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 04, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 04, 2017, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Didnt mickey harte tell us years ago Brian carthy was the man to take over.
a proper Gaa man

And he's still boycotting rte over carty not getting the job.

You're either a gombeen or have a touch of nastiness if you're espousing that Harte is boycotting RTE as a result of Carty' s treatment.
omagh gael i think ul find that is exactly why hartes rte boycott began. may 2011 if memory serves me correct.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 04, 2017, 10:46:51 PM
Not strictly The Sunday Game, but after the qualifier draw on Morning Ireland yesterday morning, Des Cahill played this "dramatic" jingle after he called out each pairing - utterly cringe worthy, and disrespectful too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 04, 2017, 10:50:05 PM
STG, not disputing that Carry played a part but it was the distasteful Murray show sketch which was the more significant issue, IMO.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southtyronegael on July 04, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
yeah but mickeys boycott was already in place long before the disgraceful murry sketch. dont be trying to re write history to make mickey look like the victim here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 11:07:24 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 04, 2017, 10:46:51 PM
Not strictly The Sunday Game, but after the qualifier draw on Morning Ireland yesterday morning, Des Cahill played this "dramatic" jingle after he called out each pairing - utterly cringe worthy, and disrespectful too.

Yeah, I referred to this yesterday. As I said if he's that bored of it, let him just f**k off to whatever sunbed he crawled out of.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 04, 2017, 11:25:15 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on July 04, 2017, 11:04:51 PM
yeah but mickeys boycott was already in place long before the disgraceful murry sketch. dont be trying to re write history to make mickey look like the victim here.

Below is the Tyrone response at the time. The pathetic RTE sketch was not aired "long after" the Carthy issue as you state but was used around that time to ridicule Mickey's stance. Mickey wasn't the only manager involved in the Carthy letter and like the others I'm pretty sure he and the team would be talking to RTE had the sketch not happened.........

....A number of weeks ago the Senior Football Manager in conjunction with several other GAA managers wrote a letter marked Private and Confidential to two senior people within the RTÉ organisation.

In this letter Mickey Harte expressed his own and a number of other managers' concern at the disproportionate absence of Brian Carthy from his role as a radio commentator. The contents of the letter made their way into the public domain and the managers' concerned can categorically state that they were not the source of that leak.

Due to the portrayal of the said letter, at least one other broadcaster within the organisation acted in a most insensitive manner in the choice of their programme dialogue in a morning radio show soon after.

Inappropriate references to the fact that the Tyrone manager Mickey Harte was associated with the Dali Lama conference in Limerick and the choice of the song "Pretty Little Girl from Omagh" will give you an indication of the complete lack of sensitivity the presenter in question afforded the Harte family and Michaela's husband John McAreavey, in what remains for them a very difficult time.

We hope that this statement clarifies for the general public why Mickey Harte, his management team and the players have chosen not to co-operate with RTÉ at this time.

Interviews with all other media outlets will continue as before.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 04, 2017, 11:29:39 PM
What has Mickey Harte or any other manager got to do with who RTE employ as sports commentators?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 04, 2017, 11:31:20 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 04, 2017, 11:29:39 PM
What has Mickey Harte or any other manager got to do with who RTE employ as sports commentators?

They wrote a letter expressing their opinion. They have a right to do that. The beef primarily was that the letter was leaked by RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southtyronegael on July 04, 2017, 11:32:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 04, 2017, 11:29:39 PM
What has Mickey Harte or any other manager got to do with who RTE employ as sports commentators?
absolutely nothing but of course saint mickey has to have his say on everything.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 04, 2017, 11:35:09 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on July 04, 2017, 11:32:54 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 04, 2017, 11:29:39 PM
What has Mickey Harte or any other manager got to do with who RTE employ as sports commentators?
absolutely nothing but of course saint mickey has to have his say on everything.

But he's not boycotting RTE now because of Brian Carthy like you would have people believe.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on July 04, 2017, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 04, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Nail hit on the head right there Croí...they have the best GAA presenter in the country sitting right under their nose and he is being "wasted" doing (albeit) very good documentaries on TG4. He should have some role in fronting or presenting the RTE GAA flagship coverage.

RTE sport don't give a toss about serious GAA coverage and they never will while Nugent is head of sport, the championship is guaranteed ratings for them, they are content to throw out the same auld shite year in, year out as they don't need to up their game at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 05, 2017, 12:04:36 AM
I suspect  Des Cahill is a rastafarian in a rte suit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2017, 12:39:43 AM
The hurling pundits in the main are quite good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on July 06, 2017, 09:19:11 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 04, 2017, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 04, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Nail hit on the head right there Croí...they have the best GAA presenter in the country sitting right under their nose and he is being "wasted" doing (albeit) very good documentaries on TG4. He should have some role in fronting or presenting the RTE GAA flagship coverage.

RTE sport don't give a toss about serious GAA coverage and they never will while Nugent is head of sport, the championship is guaranteed ratings for them, they are content to throw out the same auld shite year in, year out as they don't need to up their game at all.

100% correct
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 06, 2017, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: Beantown on July 06, 2017, 09:19:11 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on July 04, 2017, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: 5 Sams on July 04, 2017, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 04, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 04, 2017, 10:33:33 AM
Ger Canning is worse. I thought his flippant remark when there was real concern over Fionn Fitzgerald on Sunday was poor. "He'll have a bit of a headache in the morning". That was a nasty bang.

Surely was, could've done some serious damage to himself, great to see him able to lift the cup at the end. Canning is another dose but isn't too bad on shows like Seo Spoirt. Looks like we were spoilt for years with O'Hehir and Ó Muircheartaigh, surely to Christ though rte could come up with a better way to recruit their commentators. Then again I suppose they'd have to be arsed about their GAA output before that could happen.
Nail hit on the head right there Croí...they have the best GAA presenter in the country sitting right under their nose and he is being "wasted" doing (albeit) very good documentaries on TG4. He should have some role in fronting or presenting the RTE GAA flagship coverage.

RTE sport don't give a toss about serious GAA coverage and they never will while Nugent is head of sport, the championship is guaranteed ratings for them, they are content to throw out the same auld shite year in, year out as they don't need to up their game at all.

100% correct

Well in fairness they did up it a good bit in the last two years adding Tommy and Dessie ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2017, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

Sky's analysis is superior though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aughafad on July 06, 2017, 07:48:24 PM
RTE haven't moved on, they just repeat the same old shit day in day out. Sky actually try to break the game down and do not personally attack people eg. brolly or o'rourke. How this makes Harte seems childish says more about you than Harte.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Border on July 06, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
https://youtu.be/T_G-_brZsEY

What a wonderful and rare glimpse into the knowledgeable depths of Dessie Dolan's intellect. In this preface to the Mayo Derry game he explains on live TV in crystal clear fashion why he expects Mayo to win. Among the reasons were the fact that Keith Higgins got sent off the previous week, while Colm Boyle was demoted to the bench that day. Relevance to the Derry game which was about to commence I hear you ask? You won't understand because you haven't been blessed with Dessies superior insight. His eloquence of speech is up there with Joyce and his tangled masterpiece Ulysses. You didn't understand that either did you? He goes on to the subject of Aidan O'Shea and reveals that there are many questions surrounding the man. For obvious reasons he doesn't actually go into Aidan's questions but further explains that there are wider questions about the Mayo team. Such brilliant ability as a punter, what a masterstroke by RTE to have procured his services, it enhanced the whole experience. I eagerly await the next installment Saturday evening.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Lyster.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Leinster.

Amadán, fecking amadán.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Leinster.

Amadán, fecking amadán.

If this is your contribution you're better off not posting at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on July 06, 2017, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Leinster.

Amadán, fecking amadán.

If this is your contribution you're better off not posting at all.

At least his contribution is on the money.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 06, 2017, 08:57:12 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2017, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

Sky's analysis is superior though.

Harte and RTE are starting to look like SF and the DUP.

My question is; why are the rest of the Tyrone squad/management also boycotting RTE? If it was something personal RTE did towards Harte, the others look more childish by their boycott. Do they not have a mind of their own? Do they have to do what teacher tells them? There are players that weren't even part of the squad when the boycott started. The whole Tyrone setup should be embarrassed by the whole thing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Lyster.

I find Horan and Canavan to be miles ahead of anything on the football side of TSG. Their job is to analyse the game that is coming up or just finished and they do that.

Your childish statement is pretty apt to describe TSG considering the bitch fighting going on over the Connolly issue.

Lyster is as inoffensive a soul as you could meet but even he is a bit sterile, TBH. The less said about thon Cahill buck the better!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 06, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2017, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

Sky's analysis is superior though.
You mean the TV3 analysis format that moved over to Sky, en masse.
The way some people go on, you'd think Sky invented quality GAA punditry
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 06, 2017, 11:02:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Leinster.

Amadán, fecking amadán.

If this is your contribution you're better off not posting at all.

The irony of this statement is clearly lost on you
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 06, 2017, 11:02:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Leinster.

Amadán, fecking amadán.

If this is your contribution you're better off not posting at all.

The irony of this statement is clearly lost on you

Probably the most predictable and boring response possible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 07, 2017, 12:25:35 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 06, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 06, 2017, 07:32:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

Sky's analysis is superior though.
You mean the TV3 analysis format that moved over to Sky, en masse.
The way some people go on, you'd think Sky invented quality GAA punditry

Didn't invent it just actual analysis unlike some of the worn out or attention seeking BS on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: criostlinn on July 07, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on July 06, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
https://youtu.be/T_G-_brZsEY

What a wonderful and rare glimpse into the knowledgeable depths of Dessie Dolan's intellect. In this preface to the Mayo Derry game he explains on live TV in crystal clear fashion why he expects Mayo to win. Among the reasons were the fact that Keith Higgins got sent off the previous week, while Colm Boyle was demoted to the bench that day. Relevance to the Derry game which was about to commence I hear you ask? You won't understand because you haven't been blessed with Dessies superior insight. His eloquence of speech is up there with Joyce and his tangled masterpiece Ulysses. You didn't understand that either did you? He goes on to the subject of Aidan O'Shea and reveals that there are many questions surrounding the man. For obvious reasons he doesn't actually go into Aidan's questions but further explains that there are wider questions about the Mayo team. Such brilliant ability as a punter, what a masterstroke by RTE to have procured his services, it enhanced the whole experience. I eagerly await the next installment Saturday evening.

Good man Dessie. Brilliant stuff
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2017, 01:15:32 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 07, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on July 06, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
https://youtu.be/T_G-_brZsEY

What a wonderful and rare glimpse into the knowledgeable depths of Dessie Dolan's intellect. In this preface to the Mayo Derry game he explains on live TV in crystal clear fashion why he expects Mayo to win. Among the reasons were the fact that Keith Higgins got sent off the previous week, while Colm Boyle was demoted to the bench that day. Relevance to the Derry game which was about to commence I hear you ask? You won't understand because you haven't been blessed with Dessies superior insight. His eloquence of speech is up there with Joyce and his tangled masterpiece Ulysses. You didn't understand that either did you? He goes on to the subject of Aidan O'Shea and reveals that there are many questions surrounding the man. For obvious reasons he doesn't actually go into Aidan's questions but further explains that there are wider questions about the Mayo team. Such brilliant ability as a punter, what a masterstroke by RTE to have procured his services, it enhanced the whole experience. I eagerly await the next installment Saturday evening.

Good man Dessie. Brilliant stuff

Even lads related to Roscommon men are getting it in the neck from ye hoors. Still better than wee Peter and the cheerleaders.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 07, 2017, 06:12:50 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 06, 2017, 11:02:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 06, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 06, 2017, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=272646

Harte is really starting to look like a child at this stage. RTÉ moved on a long time ago but he just can't manage to.

You're another eejit that doesn't take the context of the story in hand before slabbering. He was asked his opinion on the Jim Gavin debate and he gave it. Plus he stated an undeniable fact that Sky's analysis puts our national broadcasters to shame.

Jim was good. Horan is nothing to write home about and Canavan is so conditioned he can't break free and call negative shite out, partly because he engaged in it himself on the field and as a manager. The reason Mickey likes him is because he'll parrot the party line. The two presenters are glorified cheerleaders who couldn't hold a candle to Michael Leinster.

Amadán, fecking amadán.

If this is your contribution you're better off not posting at all.

The irony of this statement is clearly lost on you

Probably the most predictable and boring response possible.

Look its like this if the Roscommon U21s were good enough that year youd be seeing by now at senior level, they weren't, yous are as shite as ever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on July 07, 2017, 07:15:02 AM
Love this argument by brolly that sky tv pundits prepare and tsg dont. I think tsg pundits need to prepare.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 07, 2017, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 07, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on July 06, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
https://youtu.be/T_G-_brZsEY

What a wonderful and rare glimpse into the knowledgeable depths of Dessie Dolan's intellect. In this preface to the Mayo Derry game he explains on live TV in crystal clear fashion why he expects Mayo to win. Among the reasons were the fact that Keith Higgins got sent off the previous week, while Colm Boyle was demoted to the bench that day. Relevance to the Derry game which was about to commence I hear you ask? You won't understand because you haven't been blessed with Dessies superior insight. His eloquence of speech is up there with Joyce and his tangled masterpiece Ulysses. You didn't understand that either did you? He goes on to the subject of Aidan O'Shea and reveals that there are many questions surrounding the man. For obvious reasons he doesn't actually go into Aidan's questions but further explains that there are wider questions about the Mayo team. Such brilliant ability as a punter, what a masterstroke by RTE to have procured his services, it enhanced the whole experience. I eagerly await the next installment Saturday evening.

Good man Dessie. Brilliant stuff

The man is not too swift, that is for sure.
I am beginning to believe that RTE couldn't give a sh*te about what they dish out in relation to gaelic football. Hurling is pretty decent, if you can mute Marty and Ger doing the commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 07, 2017, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 07, 2017, 07:15:02 AM
Love this argument by brolly that sky tv pundits prepare and tsg dont. I think tsg pundits need to prepare.

That hilarious, is he saying they are better cos they prepare??

And was he not saying the other week that Spillane read from a script regarding Connolly?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on July 07, 2017, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 07, 2017, 03:18:13 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 07, 2017, 07:15:02 AM
Love this argument by brolly that sky tv pundits prepare and tsg dont. I think tsg pundits need to prepare.

That hilarious, is he saying they are better cos they prepare??

And was he not saying the other week that Spillane read from a script regarding Connolly?
in fairness Brolly was always an advocate of amateurism
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 07, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
I think it's gas the way TSG are showing this archive footage where you can see Spillane and O'Rourke trudging out the same rubbish back 20-30 years ago.

When you read some of the articles from Darragh O'Se & Jim McGuinness you get a much more insightful image of our modern game rather than listening to the very biased and rehatched stuff from the older members on TSG.
A lot of the newer younger lads are much more quiet and easily influenced.

Remember last year Whelan said that Kerry had a structured plan to push the whole team up on Dublin's kickout at that precise moment that they got the 1st goal but Brolly as usual spoke over him and told him not at all and it just happened that way.

They try to modernise it every so often and this latest crap with the social media icons at the start is such a feeable attempt.
Soundbites is the main part of TSG as a few people have said.

It's a pity TV3 or Eir Sports etc couldn't do a weekend roundup of the games and bring a bit of competition to TSG. You can tell Brolly and Co are annoyed with Sky's coverage as he keeps referring to it and mocking Canavan and Co saying "Wasn't it a great game and everything is lovely".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 07, 2017, 04:21:13 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 07, 2017, 02:09:07 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 07, 2017, 01:00:55 AM
Quote from: Mayo Border on July 06, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
https://youtu.be/T_G-_brZsEY

What a wonderful and rare glimpse into the knowledgeable depths of Dessie Dolan's intellect. In this preface to the Mayo Derry game he explains on live TV in crystal clear fashion why he expects Mayo to win. Among the reasons were the fact that Keith Higgins got sent off the previous week, while Colm Boyle was demoted to the bench that day. Relevance to the Derry game which was about to commence I hear you ask? You won't understand because you haven't been blessed with Dessies superior insight. His eloquence of speech is up there with Joyce and his tangled masterpiece Ulysses. You didn't understand that either did you? He goes on to the subject of Aidan O'Shea and reveals that there are many questions surrounding the man. For obvious reasons he doesn't actually go into Aidan's questions but further explains that there are wider questions about the Mayo team. Such brilliant ability as a punter, what a masterstroke by RTE to have procured his services, it enhanced the whole experience. I eagerly await the next installment Saturday evening.

Good man Dessie. Brilliant stuff

The man is not too swift, that is for sure.
I am beginning to believe that RTE couldn't give a sh*te about what they dish out in relation to gaelic football. Hurling is pretty decent, if you can mute Marty and Ger doing the commentary.

Yeah not one for conspiracy theories but watching RTE and the utter dreck they are putting out I'm reminded of the line from James Bond  "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action"

When you look at all the various issues around RTE and football, a lot of the time it's hard to shake the notion that it's not enemy action, when you have inept commentators and pundits who have been in situ for years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 07, 2017, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 07, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
Rte have the same set up in soccer. 3 miserable aul b**tards gurning for this last 20 odd years.

Their head of sport has no balls.

Oh, he's got balls alright, oval shaped ones.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 07, 2017, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 07, 2017, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 07, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
Rte have the same set up in soccer. 3 miserable aul b**tards gurning for this last 20 odd years.

Their head of sport has no balls.

Oh, he's got balls alright, oval shaped ones.

Given they've lost most of the rugby that joke is well past its sell-by date.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 08, 2017, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 07, 2017, 04:49:24 PM
Rte have the same set up in soccer. 3 miserable aul b**tards gurning for this last 20 odd years.

Their head of sport has no balls.
In fairness to the soccer boys, they've had about twelve years of hoof ball to put up with. How do you analyse the same rubbish differently from game to game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on July 08, 2017, 05:00:43 PM
Ah no, Dessie Dolans' on co commentary!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 09, 2017, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 09, 2017, 03:49:30 PM
The Sunday game graphic video preview designer is a lunatic.

No harm to see someone trying something different.

Some crowds at the hurling this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 5 Sams on July 09, 2017, 05:42:04 PM
Brendan Cummins was excellent today with Marty for the Munster Final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 09, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
Marty was excellent, he was pitch perfect.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kilkevan on July 09, 2017, 06:01:07 PM
Henry waited in the long grass to get Donal Og for trying to show him up on The Sunday Game a few years ago but when he got him he got him good!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on July 09, 2017, 10:16:03 PM
There is some difference between the football and the hurling pundits
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 09, 2017, 10:17:34 PM
Far too nice though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 09, 2017, 10:20:42 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2017, 10:16:03 PM
There is some difference between the football and the hurling pundits

One of them even looks like a woman!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 09, 2017, 10:21:02 PM
What's this bollocks with camogie players on every week now ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
RTE pundit in complaining that RTE don't have all GAA games shocker.


Whatever your views on the Sky deal, the place to air those views is not on one of the two broadcasters' highlight show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 09, 2017, 10:24:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 09, 2017, 10:21:02 PM
What's this bollocks with camogie players on every week now ?

Seriously - there's about 40 people at the game, why are they wasting time showing a game nobody has interest in, when the weekend was packed of top level hurling and football games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 09, 2017, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
RTE pundit in complaining that RTE don't have all GAA games shocker.


Whatever your views on the Sky deal, the place to air those views is not on one of the two broadcasters' highlight show.

He didn't say RTÉ should have it, but that it should be on a service everyone can watch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 09, 2017, 10:28:39 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
RTE pundit in complaining that RTE don't have all GAA games shocker.


Whatever your views on the Sky deal, the place to air those views is not on one of the two broadcasters' highlight show.

Why ? He's dead right -
Des tried to stick up for GAA greedy hoors but Michael was spot on
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 10:40:32 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 09, 2017, 10:28:39 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
RTE pundit in complaining that RTE don't have all GAA games shocker.


Whatever your views on the Sky deal, the place to air those views is not on one of the two broadcasters' highlight show.

Why ? He's dead right -
Des tried to stick up for GAA greedy hoors but Michael was spot on

He is right but I don't think the best place to air it is as a paid RTE pundit on an RTE show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 09, 2017, 11:09:19 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2017, 10:16:03 PM
There is some difference between the football and the hurling pundits

Some analysts alright - Cork score a point which consists of a defender intercepting a ball and sprinting out of defence with it, playing a long pass into the forwards where a cork forward wins it, spins and puts it over the bar. Michael Duignan says that's a great team score by cork. 2 players involved and it's a great team score, great analysis alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 09, 2017, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 09, 2017, 10:26:27 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on July 09, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
RTE pundit in complaining that RTE don't have all GAA games shocker.


Whatever your views on the Sky deal, the place to air those views is not on one of the two broadcasters' highlight show.

He didn't say RTÉ should have it, but that it should be on a service everyone can watch.
He went on with the usual shite about his 83 year old mother/father at home unable to watch the match.

There's probably an 83 year old from Dublin, Tipperary, Meath, Donegal, Carlow, Leitrim, Cavan and Tipp that couldn't see their team on the box either. But those teams' games weren't on Sky so it's not fair game.

Also, his point was that the Kilkenny v Waterford game was a great game and so it should have been on. Would he have minded had it been as one-sided as the Dublin v Tipp game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on July 09, 2017, 11:17:06 PM
Des Cahill showing some blatant bias there highlighting a wee push by Cillian. I'd say he gets nice little perks from Dublin GAA.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Clinker on July 09, 2017, 11:24:07 PM
Watching The Sunday Game here (recorded) and have got as far as the end of the Galway versus Roscommon match and it turns out that the wee man who was on The Sunday Game for ages is actually the manager of Roscommon now who are just after winning Connacht. A great boost for the show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayoaremagic on July 09, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
The typical Sunday game analysts bashing of Mayo continues. Citing O'Connor incident and Harrison's dump tackle stating they were both lucky not to see red!I could see nothing in the O'Connor incident when they zoomed in. Nothing said about the atrocious standard of reffing where great tackles were given as frees and fouls were waved play-on on both sides
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 09, 2017, 11:28:42 PM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 09, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
The typical Sunday game analysts bashing of Mayo continues. Citing O'Connor incident and Harrison's dump tackle stating they were both lucky not to see red!I could see nothing in the O'Connor incident when they zoomed in. Nothing said about the atrocious standard of reffing where great tackles were given as frees and fouls were waved play-on on both sides

Ah they have to have something to talk about - Isn't it great they are taking notice of an auld 3rd round qualifier in Ennis?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on July 09, 2017, 11:31:04 PM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 09, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
The typical Sunday game analysts bashing of Mayo continues. Citing O'Connor incident and Harrison's dump tackle stating they were both lucky not to see red!I could see nothing in the O'Connor incident when they zoomed in. Nothing said about the atrocious standard of reffing where great tackles were given as frees and fouls were waved play-on on both sides

They were lucky not to see red
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 09, 2017, 11:33:07 PM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

And Gooch too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 09, 2017, 11:35:33 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 09, 2017, 11:31:04 PM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 09, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
The typical Sunday game analysts bashing of Mayo continues. Citing O'Connor incident and Harrison's dump tackle stating they were both lucky not to see red!I could see nothing in the O'Connor incident when they zoomed in. Nothing said about the atrocious standard of reffing where great tackles were given as frees and fouls were waved play-on on both sides

They were lucky not to see red
Harrison's slam deserved a red in my opinion.

Quinn very good tonight. Very assured. Gooch not so much but he's only in the door.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on July 09, 2017, 11:35:53 PM
The Gooch is getting better but gave a Kerryman answer to the mood in the camp question.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
I thought Michael Duignan was spot on when he hammered the GAA for selling the rights to sky. All games should be on free to air tv (doesn't have to be rte) and how much money do the GAA want/need to accept the deal from sky
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on July 09, 2017, 11:38:07 PM
Harrison was getting choked and it's clear he didn't mean to do what he did. The boxer sexton had a hold of him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: saffronandblue on July 09, 2017, 11:41:57 PM
They must be going mental over and reservoirdubs😂😂😂😂😂 It's fantastic that we get under their skin so much.....everyone should have a look at it every so often for to cheer themselves up👍
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 09, 2017, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
I thought Michael Duignan was spot on when he hammered the GAA for selling the rights to sky. All games should be on free to air tv (doesn't have to be rte) and how much money do the GAA want/need to accept the deal from sky

All games? Including those that aren't currently broadcast? How did these oul fellas survive when only a few games were ever shown. It's sentimental clap trap. The GAA enjoys a hefty payday from selling off a small number (of mainly low priority games it seems that gets exclusivity) and should milk it because most likely, Sky's interest won't last forever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 09, 2017, 11:53:00 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 09, 2017, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
I thought Michael Duignan was spot on when he hammered the GAA for selling the rights to sky. All games should be on free to air tv (doesn't have to be rte) and how much money do the GAA want/need to accept the deal from sky

All games? Including those that aren't currently broadcast? How did these oul fellas survive when only a few games were ever shown. It's sentimental clap trap. The GAA enjoys a hefty payday from selling off a small number (of mainly low priority games it seems that gets exclusivity) and should milk it because most likely, Sky's interest won't last forever.

My father is from wexford and doesn't have sky sports. He can't go to the pub so how can he watch wexford play kilkenny? GAA don't need th cash from sky. Might mean dubs get less cash from HQ but I'd that not a good thing considering how many posts appear on this mb complaining about it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 09, 2017, 11:57:32 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 09, 2017, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
I thought Michael Duignan was spot on when he hammered the GAA for selling the rights to sky. All games should be on free to air tv (doesn't have to be rte) and how much money do the GAA want/need to accept the deal from sky

All games? Including those that aren't currently broadcast? How did these oul fellas survive when only a few games were ever shown. It's sentimental clap trap. The GAA enjoys a hefty payday from selling off a small number (of mainly low priority games it seems that gets exclusivity) and should milk it because most likely, Sky's interest won't last forever.

They don't though, in relative terms at least.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 10, 2017, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 09, 2017, 11:57:32 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 09, 2017, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 09, 2017, 11:36:28 PM
I thought Michael Duignan was spot on when he hammered the GAA for selling the rights to sky. All games should be on free to air tv (doesn't have to be rte) and how much money do the GAA want/need to accept the deal from sky

All games? Including those that aren't currently broadcast? How did these oul fellas survive when only a few games were ever shown. It's sentimental clap trap. The GAA enjoys a hefty payday from selling off a small number (of mainly low priority games it seems that gets exclusivity) and should milk it because most likely, Sky's interest won't last forever.

They don't though, in relative terms at least.

More than TV3 or TG4?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 12:03:32 AM
Not much better than the TV3 deal.
At least, that was my understanding at the time.
We already have GAAGo for those watching overseas, why do we need SKY?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 10, 2017, 12:03:44 AM
duignams rant about the sky sports live gaa games was sentimentalist playing to the gallery.

about 15 years ago there were no more than 16 fulltime gaa workers on the payroll....about 10 in Croke Park, and leinster council(Michael Delaney) and Munster Council (Donie Nealon) and full time secretaries in Dublin and Cork(dearest Frank).

Now virtually every individual county has at least on administrator on the payroll, some up to 3, all on 50k plus packages when you include pension, and then add in all the full time coaches in each county, and the full time pay roll in Croke Park is near the 50 mark.

If you increase from 16 to 200 or more full time staff, the culminate wage bill rockets and every avenue of revenue must be milked.
That is why the GAA does need the funds from Sky and the concerts etc.........and given that most if not all of these salaried officials make up a large percentage of those attending congress, there is not a chance in hell of them biting the hands that feed them.

I do have sympathy for the older folk who don't have subscription tv, however an overload of live matches simply breed armchair "fans", when the truth is that nothing beats being present at a game in person.  Lots of sports in the country are starting to suffer because despite the fact that sports have many followers, the followers are of the armchair variety as distinct from gate paying variety.

Duignam might be better off having a cut at RTE for their laughable 90 second package coverage each weekend of the non live shoulder games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 12:05:28 AM
How about Michael Duignan and all the other cheap skates fork out a few pound to cover the cost of Sky sports for 3 months to let their auld fellas watch these games over the summer.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 12:10:54 AM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 10, 2017, 12:03:44 AM
duignams rant about the sky sports live gaa games was sentimentalist playing to the gallery.

about 15 years ago there were no more than 16 fulltime gaa workers on the payroll....about 10 in Croke Park, and leinster council(Michael Delaney) and Munster Council (Donie Nealon) and full time secretaries in Dublin and Cork(dearest Frank).

Now virtually every individual county has at least on administrator on the payroll, some up to 3, all on 50k plus packages when you include pension, and then add in all the full time coaches in each county, and the full time pay roll in Croke Park is near the 50 mark.

If you increase from 16 to 200 or more full time staff, the culminate wage bill rockets and every avenue of revenue must be milked.
That is why the GAA does need the funds from Sky and the concerts etc.........and given that most if not all of these salaried officials make up a large percentage of those attending congress, there is not a chance in hell of them biting the hands that feed them.

I do have sympathy for the older folk who don't have subscription tv, however an overload of live matches simply breed armchair "fans", when the truth is that nothing beats being present at a game in person.  Lots of sports in the country are starting to suffer because despite the fact that sports have many followers, the followers are of the armchair variety as distinct from gate paying variety.

Duignam might be better off having a cut at RTE for their laughable 90 second package coverage each weekend of the non live shoulder games.

That would only be a valid defence of the SKY deal if they were paying significantly more for the rights than TV3.
Which, and I'm open to correction here, they are not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 10, 2017, 12:19:47 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 12:03:32 AM
Not much better than the TV3 deal.
At least, that was my understanding at the time.
We already have GAAGo for those watching overseas, why do we need SKY?

Where TV3 prepared to pay €55m over 5 years? (I don't know, it's an genuine question but I'd be surprised if they were in a position to afford that.)

https://amp.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/fans-set-for-five-more-years-of-sky-with-gaa-on-the-brink-of-55m-rights-deal-35162069.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 10, 2017, 12:24:24 AM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 10, 2017, 12:03:44 AM
I do have sympathy for the older folk who don't have subscription tv, however an overload of live matches simply breed armchair "fans", when the truth is that nothing beats being present at a game in person.  Lots of sports in the country are starting to suffer because despite the fact that sports have many followers, the followers are of the armchair variety as distinct from gate paying variety.

Duignam might be better off having a cut at RTE for their laughable 90 second package coverage each weekend of the non live shoulder games.

There were large numbers at games attending this weekend, some of the grounds could not have held more.

The GAA, if not so focused on getting in money to pay for more administrators, might give some weight to the provision of magazine programs and the like when deciding which broadcaster to use. TV3 (and RTÉ) have multiple channels nowadays, they could have extended hurling highlights on Tuesday and extended football highlights on Wednesday and a preview programme on Thursday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 10, 2017, 12:24:42 AM
I am no fan of Sky.....but in the Sky v TV3 debate it is a no brainer at the same level of remuneration..........Sky opens up the UK market and a wider world of potential advertising revenue(for a variety of sellers of the GAA product) as compared to TV3 which has the same domestic limitations as RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lone Shark on July 10, 2017, 12:27:25 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 10, 2017, 12:19:47 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 12:03:32 AM
Not much better than the TV3 deal.
At least, that was my understanding at the time.
We already have GAAGo for those watching overseas, why do we need SKY?

Where TV3 prepared to pay €55m over 5 years? (I don't know, it's an genuine question but I'd be surprised if they were in a position to afford that.)

https://amp.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/fans-set-for-five-more-years-of-sky-with-gaa-on-the-brink-of-55m-rights-deal-35162069.html

Just on this, that's €55m between RTE and Sky, the vast majority from RTE since they get more games, and the best of them. I too was told that what the GAA get from Sky is broadly in line with what they got from TV3.



On the general topic, and leaving aside the obvious conflict of interest inherent in the "Former player who gets paid large sums to analyse games on RTE believes that more games should be on RTE" aspect, I wish someone would address this question.

Why is it such a travesty that Waterford vs Kilkenny was not available on terrestrial TV, but Cavan vs Tipperary in football (which was also a great game, I was there) is perfectly fine to leave uncovered? It was on at 2pm, opposite nothing at all other than some dreary old golf coverage. Put it out there, if you believe that people missing games is such a terrible thing?

The logical extension of the argument that no games should be on Sky because ould lads that live on mountaintops should be able to see them, is that all games should be available free to air. Now of course you can't broadcast all the games at the one time, and if there are five or six games on a Saturday evening or a Sunday afternoon, you can't show them all - but you could show more. Where do all these people believe that the line should be drawn?

Moreover, how about the quaint old notion that there shouldn't always be a game on TV, and maybe someone should go out and support their clubs? I don't know what's on TV next Saturday evening, but I do know that there's two games in the Offaly SHC, including what looks like an excellent local derby between Kinnitty and Kilcormac-Killoughey. Maybe one or two people around home should go out and see that, instead of staying in, stuck to the couch? Maybe the GAA should factor that in?



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 10, 2017, 04:43:02 AM
I see on Twitter a lad timed that the Carlow highlights were a grand total of 62 seconds. Their game with the Dubs was on Sky (a game which RTE prob would not have shown anyway). Duignan's thing went on for around 40 seconds...
Now what about the lad in his 80s from Carlow who gets that shite if he can't make the game...

Where do we stop if it all MUST to be free to air as then everyone from every county should get some proper coverage and not be left to make do if they can't get to a game.
The real issue here is that it was a good HURLING game that was missed and that is sacrilege. No one gives a f**k about Carlow footballers still or any aul lads who can't make that game to witness a rare win.

I have an issue with the right to see games. A lot of these elder folk who get mentioned in this debate saw F all games for years as they simply were not on TV anyway. There are more games than ever.
I am using GAAGo and I pay for that. I am behind a pay wall and I don't see Duignan saying how much of a disgrace it is that not even the Sunday Game highlights show is free to air for the hundreds of thousands of Irish abroad via the international player.
On one hand loads here give out about Sky but then want to bring the armchair fan more into the GAA, something that Sky Sports practically invented.

The Sky issue is done and dusted so maybe get their own house in order and show more action from qualifiers. I used Carlow as an example but many counties feel aggrieved by lack of coverage by RTE who have the pick of the majority of games.
But of course no fuss is ever made of that because truth be told most of us neutrals can't be arsed watching either.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 10, 2017, 06:03:07 AM
sky want people to get the package and have to install the dish and box
the next step then is keeping it going
that's the hook
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 10, 2017, 06:53:49 AM
So in summary, what we want is EPL style blanket coverage of every championship game in two sports.

And we also want it on free to air TV, with the cheque being covered from our licence fee.

And it's vitally important that those who play in the Christy Ring, that their game gets a camera at it too, because you know, it's effectively a zero cost to film, plus it'll make a real difference to the players to get home that evening and revisit that not even their closest friends or family members would cross the street to watch them play in that competition.

And if you go back anything beyond 2 pages on this thread, what we also really want is high quality commentators and analysts who are passionate and knowledgable about our games, and never make mistakes.

I'd sincerely hope we are never put in charge of a company. It'd be bankrupt by this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 10, 2017, 07:58:52 AM
Lone Shark and Captain Scarlet, that's the point I've been banging on about for two years.

The ould lads from Carlow NEVER got to see their team play on TV until Sky showed them this year.

There are ould lads the length and breadth of the country who never get to see their team. But the hurling on Saturday was a great game that Duignan's ould lad wanted to see so it's a different matter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BluestackBoy on July 10, 2017, 08:01:03 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 10, 2017, 06:53:49 AM
So in summary, what we want is EPL style blanket coverage of every championship game in two sports.

And we also want it on free to air TV, with the cheque being covered from our licence fee.

And it's vitally important that those who play in the Christy Ring, that their game gets a camera at it too, because you know, it's effectively a zero cost to film, plus it'll make a real difference to the players to get home that evening and revisit that not even their closest friends or family members would cross the street to watch them play in that competition.

And if you go back anything beyond 2 pages on this thread, what we also really want is high quality commentators and analysts who are passionate and knowledgable about our games, and never make mistakes.

I'd sincerely hope we are never put in charge of a company. It'd be bankrupt by this afternoon.

Good man wobbler, a solitary voice of sanity amidst the dross of the mob.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 10, 2017, 08:05:55 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 10, 2017, 06:53:49 AM
So in summary, what we want is EPL style blanket coverage of every championship game in two sports.

And we also want it on free to air TV, with the cheque being covered from our licence fee.

And it's vitally important that those who play in the Christy Ring, that their game gets a camera at it too, because you know, it's effectively a zero cost to film, plus it'll make a real difference to the players to get home that evening and revisit that not even their closest friends or family members would cross the street to watch them play in that competition.

And if you go back anything beyond 2 pages on this thread, what we also really want is high quality commentators and analysts who are passionate and knowledgable about our games, and never make mistakes.

I'd sincerely hope we are never put in charge of a company. It'd be bankrupt by this afternoon.
Don't forget the camogie.

They went to the trouble of bringing Ann Marie Hayes on to talk about one camogie game that nobody bothered to show live.

There are 83 year old women the up and down the country who....................... ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tyrdub on July 10, 2017, 08:45:41 AM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 10, 2017, 12:03:44 AM
duignams rant about the sky sports live gaa games was sentimentalist playing to the gallery.

about 15 years ago there were no more than 16 fulltime gaa workers on the payroll....about 10 in Croke Park, and leinster council(Michael Delaney) and Munster Council (Donie Nealon) and full time secretaries in Dublin and Cork(dearest Frank).

Now virtually every individual county has at least on administrator on the payroll, some up to 3, all on 50k plus packages when you include pension, and then add in all the full time coaches in each county, and the full time pay roll in Croke Park is near the 50 mark.

If you increase from 16 to 200 or more full time staff, the culminate wage bill rockets and every avenue of revenue must be milked.
That is why the GAA does need the funds from Sky and the concerts etc.........and given that most if not all of these salaried officials make up a large percentage of those attending congress, there is not a chance in hell of them biting the hands that feed them.

I do have sympathy for the older folk who don't have subscription tv, however an overload of live matches simply breed armchair "fans", when the truth is that nothing beats being present at a game in person.  Lots of sports in the country are starting to suffer because despite the fact that sports have many followers, the followers are of the armchair variety as distinct from gate paying variety.

Duignam might be better off having a cut at RTE for their laughable 90 second package coverage each weekend of the non live shoulder games.

these administrators were in place long before any Sky deal, dont need the money, Duignam was right
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on July 10, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 12:05:28 AM
How about Michael Duignan and all the other cheap skates fork out a few pound to cover the cost of Sky sports for 3 months to let their auld fellas watch these games over the summer.

  Or an Android box ............
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tyrdub on July 10, 2017, 09:07:55 AM
Another thing they brought up on SG was Brian Cody manhandling the 4th official on Saturday night. I watched this on TV and straight away i said to her highness that they would bring it up and compare it to Diarmuid Connolly, any views on this?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing


I completely forgot he was in that role. That HAS to be a pander to Dublin GAA to try to smooth relations. Could you imagine if they invited on the Mayo PRO as an analyst ffs!
You're spot on about the Cillian O'Connor incident - even zoomed in, there is nothing to see, yet they choose to highlight that over the many ACTUAL red card incidents that occurred in games over the weekend.
Dublin and Kerry men trying to sew the seed in referees minds for further down the line - their media machines are working very nicely. Des Cahill is either complicit in it or doesn't even see what's going on around him   ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 10, 2017, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing


I completely forgot he was in that role. That HAS to be a pander to Dublin GAA to try to smooth relations. Could you imagine if they invited on the Mayo PRO as an analyst ffs!
You're spot on about the Cillian O'Connor incident - even zoomed in, there is nothing to see, yet they choose to highlight that over the many ACTUAL red card incidents that occurred in games over the weekend.
Dublin and Kerry men trying to sew the seed in referees minds for further down the line - their media machines are working very nicely. Des Cahill is either complicit in it or doesn't even see what's going on around him   ::)
Darn it, Dublin's master plan has been unveiled. It's only a matter of time until they find the hypnotist who tricked Harrison into going UFC on the Clare player on Saturday ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on July 10, 2017, 11:19:35 AM
the whole thing has the fell of two bladmen fighting over a comb.
what people now expect is to be able to see all games and I know the old man on the hill argument but GAA should demand that the  brodcasters make the games available on line at least for a few weeks afterwards or ideally forever . that way we would not have to put up with having hurling spoiling a summers afternoon
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 10, 2017, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing


I completely forgot he was in that role. That HAS to be a pander to Dublin GAA to try to smooth relations. Could you imagine if they invited on the Mayo PRO as an analyst ffs!
You're spot on about the Cillian O'Connor incident - even zoomed in, there is nothing to see, yet they choose to highlight that over the many ACTUAL red card incidents that occurred in games over the weekend.
Dublin and Kerry men trying to sew the seed in referees minds for further down the line - their media machines are working very nicely. Des Cahill is either complicit in it or doesn't even see what's going on around him   ::)
Darn it, Dublin's master plan has been unveiled. It's only a matter of time until they find the hypnotist who tricked Harrison into going UFC on the Clare player on Saturday ::)

I didn't suggest that the Harrison incident shouldn't have been highlighted - I referred to the O'Connor incident which you've conveniently ignored. And it's not like Dublin are above wheeling out their media figures to try to influence officials is it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 10, 2017, 11:24:59 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 10, 2017, 07:58:52 AM
Lone Shark and Captain Scarlet, that's the point I've been banging on about for two years.

The ould lads from Carlow NEVER got to see their team play on TV until Sky showed them this year.

There are ould lads the length and breadth of the country who never get to see their team. But the hurling on Saturday was a great game that Duignan's ould lad wanted to see so it's a different matter.
Sky's entrance to the world GAA  is not responsible for increasing coverage of games.
Sky took over the entire TV3 package including commentators and pundits.
Same nr of games.


UK GAA viewers already had and still have access to many GAA games, easily available on Premier Sports for GBP10 p/m.

In the old system, that hurling game would have been fta  on TV3 and watched by hundreds of thousands.
In this current system, a Sky only game musters  a much lower figure of some thousands of viewers in Ireland  and pathetic viewing figures in the UK.

The Sky subscriber package has had a negative effect on access to the same televised games that were once covered fta with professionalism by TV3  and there's no extra revenue for the  GAA.

Though I presume with Sky revamping their sports channels into packages, a viewer should be able to select a GAA package for lower cost than present, Sky see some future with more subscribers in  Irl and uk


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 10, 2017, 11:38:10 AM
MMA style throws, hands on officials, red cards, moral panics abound and not a Tyrone man in sight. The world's couped.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 10, 2017, 11:54:27 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 10, 2017, 11:24:59 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 10, 2017, 07:58:52 AM
Lone Shark and Captain Scarlet, that's the point I've been banging on about for two years.

The ould lads from Carlow NEVER got to see their team play on TV until Sky showed them this year.

There are ould lads the length and breadth of the country who never get to see their team. But the hurling on Saturday was a great game that Duignan's ould lad wanted to see so it's a different matter.
Sky's entrance to the world GAA  is not responsible for increasing coverage of games.
Sky took over the entire TV3 package including commentators and pundits.
Same nr of games.


UK GAA viewers already had and still have access to many GAA games, easily available on Premier Sports for GBP10 p/m.

In the old system, that hurling game would have been fta  on TV3 and watched by hundreds of thousands.
In this current system, a Sky only game musters  a much lower figure of some thousands of viewers in Ireland  and pathetic viewing figures in the UK.

The Sky subscriber package has had a negative effect on access to the same televised games that were once covered fta with professionalism by TV3  and there's no extra revenue for the  GAA.

Though I presume with Sky revamping their sports channels into packages, a viewer should be able to select a GAA package for lower cost than present, Sky see some future with more subscribers in  Irl and uk

Sky's viewing figures are in the toilet. No one is watching the games. While the rte coverage is poor at least it is free to air. As part of the next tv deal GAA could insist on an additional highlights show midweek.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on July 10, 2017, 12:46:09 PM
The sky coverage is better for sure. I guess a lot of people watch the games in the pub or stream them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Hill is Blue on July 10, 2017, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing


I completely forgot he was in that role. That HAS to be a pander to Dublin GAA to try to smooth relations. Could you imagine if they invited on the Mayo PRO as an analyst ffs!
You're spot on about the Cillian O'Connor incident - even zoomed in, there is nothing to see, yet they choose to highlight that over the many ACTUAL red card incidents that occurred in games over the weekend.
Dublin and Kerry men trying to sew the seed in referees minds for further down the line - their media machines are working very nicely. Des Cahill is either complicit in it or doesn't even see what's going on around him   ::)

The paranoia is setting in early this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on July 10, 2017, 02:35:00 PM
Some bullshit being spouted on here about Sky. There are more games covered live now than 10 or 15 years ago. The main games as always are still on RTE. Sky have taken on a package of games and to my mind do them well. I for one would like to see more on Sky. We no longer live in a world where nothing costs money and GAA games have a value. If that 80 yo all fella had to fill the car or take the bus/train buy his lunch and ticket it would have cost him more than a month's subscription to Sky. Putting on games cost money, having 100 youngsters playing in Semple, The Athletic Grounds, Croke Park etc costs money, if the GAA can sell the product why not. RTE and BBC is not free to air any way you pay your license and through your taxes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 10, 2017, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing


I completely forgot he was in that role. That HAS to be a pander to Dublin GAA to try to smooth relations. Could you imagine if they invited on the Mayo PRO as an analyst ffs!
You're spot on about the Cillian O'Connor incident - even zoomed in, there is nothing to see, yet they choose to highlight that over the many ACTUAL red card incidents that occurred in games over the weekend.
Dublin and Kerry men trying to sew the seed in referees minds for further down the line - their media machines are working very nicely. Des Cahill is either complicit in it or doesn't even see what's going on around him   ::)

The paranoia is setting in early this year.

Do you not see how ridiculous it looks two weeks after Jim Gavin makes such a huge issue out of the Sunday Game coverage of Diarmuid Connolly,  that Mossy Quinn the Dublin GAA Commercial and Marketing Manager appears as a pundit on the very same program and tries to make an issue of a nothing incident involving Cillian O'Connor.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SouthDublinBro on July 10, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 02:52:37 PMa "nothing" incident involving Cillian O'Connor.

::)

You should be thankful that none of the pundits pointed out how your darling innocent lad very cynically threw himself to the ground as though he had been shot immediately after raising his hands to the Clare lad's face in order to avoid getting sent off during that highlighted incident.

Dirty players like CoC deserve to have their antics exposed and shamed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 10, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 02:52:37 PMa "nothing" incident involving Cillian O'Connor.

::)

You should be thankful that none of the pundits pointed out how your darling innocent lad very cynically threw himself to the ground as though he had been shot immediately after raising his hands to the Clare lad's face in order to avoid getting sent off during that highlighted incident.

Dirty players like CoC deserve to have their antics exposed and shamed.

Jaysus how did Miissy miss that one. And to think the county board are paying him for this shit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
The 'analysis' of Meath v Donegal was pathetic tbh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 10, 2017, 09:16:18 PM
But but but it was free to air so it was grand.
I see Carlow are on Sky again this weekend. What about the poor aul lads??
62 seconds of highlights again for him on Sunday will do him grand...

I know I am being a shithead there the way I am making the point but it bothered me how the Ordinary GAA Fan was being held up due to a hurling game being missed but F all said when Kildare v Meath was on Sky for example.
I just think get your own house in order before you go on the attack.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 10, 2017, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
The 'analysis' of Meath v Donegal was pathetic tbh.

They showed how Murphy scored an important point for Donegal, but nobody mentioned that he took seven steps to make space.

Two Big football counties, a good tight hard fought game and we get trickles of moments that looked very disjointed in showing the flow of the game.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:54:28 PM
If Soccer Republic can show decent highlights from every League of Ireland match on a Monday night, why cant The Sunday Game or RTE do similar? The crowds at intercounty matches dwarf those of LOI soccer yet we have to put up with a shite production. 60 second highlights , mickey mouse interviews with managers that are often cutoff mid sentence and frequently highlights edited missing some of the key scores or incidents in games. Some of the footage looks like it's been taken with a water damaged camera phone. You can give out all you like about Sky but at least the product is high quality.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: under the bar on July 11, 2017, 12:40:58 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:54:28 PM
If Soccer Republic can show decent highlights from every League of Ireland match on a Monday night, why cant The Sunday Game or RTE do similar? The crowds at intercounty matches dwarf those of LOI soccer yet we have to put up with a shite production. 60 second highlights , mickey mouse interviews with managers that are often cutoff mid sentence and frequently highlights edited missing some of the key scores or incidents in games. Some of the footage looks like it's been taken with a water damaged camera phone. You can give out all you like about Sky but at least the product is high quality.

+1.  Savage post Lily!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 11, 2017, 12:58:16 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:54:28 PM
If Soccer Republic can show decent highlights from every League of Ireland match on a Monday night, why cant The Sunday Game or RTE do similar? The crowds at intercounty matches dwarf those of LOI soccer yet we have to put up with a shite production. 60 second highlights , mickey mouse interviews with managers that are often cutoff mid sentence and frequently highlights edited missing some of the key scores or incidents in games. Some of the footage looks like it's been taken with a water damaged camera phone. You can give out all you like about Sky but at least the product is high quality.
Your comparing apples with oranges.when you compare Sky to Rte. The comparison should be what Sky do compared to what TV3 did.
Would you pay €40pm for Sky's quality over and above what TV3 offered fta for the same package?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on July 11, 2017, 01:49:07 AM
The comparison was made between a weekly programme on domestic soccer and one on GAA. Soccer Republic is better despite a much lower viewership and match attendances. And don't mention the National League whatever you do. Sure we'll catch that on the wireless, theres a Womens 6Nations game on RTE2 instead.
At the weekend they coupled up Tommy Carr and German Canning again for f**k sake. Ger clearly lost any interest in Gaelic Football when Larry Tompkins last laced up his boots. Tommy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. And that's being kind to him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 11, 2017, 02:36:04 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:54:28 PM
If Soccer Republic can show decent highlights from every League of Ireland match on a Monday night, why cant The Sunday Game or RTE do similar? The crowds at intercounty matches dwarf those of LOI soccer yet we have to put up with a shite production. 60 second highlights , mickey mouse interviews with managers that are often cutoff mid sentence and frequently highlights edited missing some of the key scores or incidents in games. Some of the footage looks like it's been taken with a water damaged camera phone. You can give out all you like about Sky but at least the product is high quality.
Sky have only been going for a few years and are niche. RTE GAA is like the Irish Independent or Nationwide or the Applegreen carvery off the M1. It is mass market and it pitched for better or worse at a certain level.

Why is Martin Breheny shite? Why is the carvery shite ?  Because it''s good enough. Because a lot of people are happy with it. Same with Ger " German " Canning.

You can get better analysis online or via something like Second Captains or on the radio if you are interested. But how many people are really interested ?

Or you can look at it another way.
Mencken was an American journalist who said nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. RTE is run by people who think like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 11, 2017, 05:47:39 AM
RTE just aim for the lowest standard and hit it every time
when you look at the quality TG4 can deliver every week for club or league games, and on a relative shoestring
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: heffo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:57 AM
Did Cody just get the minimum 12 weeks?

Rules are rules - it's black and white

You can't put your hand on an official.

Won't someone think of the example it sets to children to have such a high profile individual pushing a match official.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 11, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
The Applegreen carvery can be nice though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 11, 2017, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 11, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
The Applegreen carvery can be nice though.
Carvery means Gercanning in Portuguese
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 11, 2017, 12:34:32 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:54:28 PM
If Soccer Republic can show decent highlights from every League of Ireland match on a Monday night, why cant The Sunday Game or RTE do similar? The crowds at intercounty matches dwarf those of LOI soccer yet we have to put up with a shite production. 60 second highlights , mickey mouse interviews with managers that are often cutoff mid sentence and frequently highlights edited missing some of the key scores or incidents in games. Some of the footage looks like it's been taken with a water damaged camera phone. You can give out all you like about Sky but at least the product is high quality.

I can guarantee you there is not a league of Ireland fan alive who considers their sport's coverage anything near on a par with Gaa coverage on rte.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sid waddell on July 11, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:57 AM
Did Cody just get the minimum 12 weeks?

Rules are rules - it's black and white

You can't put your hand on an official.

Won't someone think of the example it sets to children to have such a high profile individual pushing a match official.

"Cody got a bit hot under the collar, there, chuckle chuckle, Brendan."

"Chuckle, chuckle, Henry."

"Ah, shure look it, Cody is Cody and hurling is hurling - there should be no red cards and no suspensions in hurling, hurling should always be manly. And shure aren't Kilkenny out of the championship anyway. You couldn't be suspending him, like, that'd be ridiculish. We don't want our game becoming like that awful football. There's no case to answer here."

"Ah, yeah."

"Sorry Michael, I have to leave the studio early as I have to pay a guard for wiping out me penalty points."

"The system works!"

"Chuckle, chuckle."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 11, 2017, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on July 11, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 11, 2017, 06:19:57 AM
Did Cody just get the minimum 12 weeks?

Rules are rules - it's black and white

You can't put your hand on an official.

Won't someone think of the example it sets to children to have such a high profile individual pushing a match official.

"Cody got a bit hot under the collar, there, chuckle chuckle, Brendan."

"Chuckle, chuckle, Henry."

"Ah, shure look it, Cody is Cody and hurling is hurling - there should be no red cards and no suspensions in hurling, hurling should always be manly. And shure aren't Kilkenny out of the championship anyway. You couldn't be suspending him, like, that'd be ridiculish. We don't want our game becoming like that awful football. There's no case to answer here."

"Ah, yeah."

"Sorry Michael, I have to leave the studio early as I have to pay a guard for wiping out me penalty points."

"The system works!"

"Chuckle, chuckle."

Sanctioning Cody would upset too many decent hardworking people in Bennetsbridge, Gowran and other mythologies. It could potentially blow a few head gaskets and the GAA would be responsible for any damage resulting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 11, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 11, 2017, 01:49:07 AM
The comparison was made between a weekly programme on domestic soccer and one on GAA. Soccer Republic is better despite a much lower viewership and match attendances. And don't mention the National League whatever you do. Sure we'll catch that on the wireless, theres a Womens 6Nations game on RTE2 instead.
At the weekend they coupled up Tommy Carr and German Canning again for f**k sake. Ger clearly lost any interest in Gaelic Football when Larry Tompkins last laced up his boots. Tommy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. And that's being kind to him.

You can understand why he chose to just go with 'Ger' from an early age.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 11, 2017, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 11, 2017, 12:58:16 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 10, 2017, 11:54:28 PM
If Soccer Republic can show decent highlights from every League of Ireland match on a Monday night, why cant The Sunday Game or RTE do similar? The crowds at intercounty matches dwarf those of LOI soccer yet we have to put up with a shite production. 60 second highlights , mickey mouse interviews with managers that are often cutoff mid sentence and frequently highlights edited missing some of the key scores or incidents in games. Some of the footage looks like it's been taken with a water damaged camera phone. You can give out all you like about Sky but at least the product is high quality.
Your comparing apples with oranges.when you compare Sky to Rte. The comparison should be what Sky do compared to what TV3 did.
Would you pay €40pm for Sky's quality over and above what TV3 offered fta for the same package?

I wouldn't pay sky anything but I still watch it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stevecw on July 11, 2017, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
The 'analysis' of Meath v Donegal was pathetic tbh.
A joke, I was looking forward to seeing a good 10 mins of that game at least. As they didn't bother to show it live was expecting decent highlights. Instead we got about 3 mins. The 2b qualifiers got about 2 mins each with a reporter who had no idea what was going on doing the voiceover. Carlow scored 2-14 we got to see the end of the 2 goals, none of the points were shown. Same for Monaghan, 3 goals shown, none of their 24 points shown etc...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 11, 2017, 11:48:30 PM
Quote from: stevecw on July 11, 2017, 11:39:10 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 10, 2017, 09:07:58 PM
The 'analysis' of Meath v Donegal was pathetic tbh.
A joke, I was looking forward to seeing a good 10 mins of that game at least. As they didn't bother to show it live was expecting decent highlights. Instead we got about 3 mins. The 2b qualifiers got about 2 mins each with a reporter who had no idea what was going on doing the voiceover. Carlow scored 2-14 we got to see the end of the 2 goals, none of the points were shown. Same for Monaghan, 3 goals shown, none of their 24 points shown etc...

Since the cameras are there, why not show the full game later on in the week in a dead time on the schedule?  Let the home team's local radio voice a shot at commentating.  Could be fun and the real fans get to see all the games in full, if not before Tuesday or Wednesday night.  Might even unearth  the new Tommy Carr for analysis.  Throw it on GAAGO for those out foreign and everyone is happy. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stevecw on July 12, 2017, 12:09:27 AM
If only RTE or whoever had our brains. Obviously the games are filmed in full, all be it by what looks like a JVC video camera from 1992 for some of the qualifier highlights. But yes, now that Sunday game will not give proper highlights and the Monday game is never coming back. The feeds of all games that they must get should be available on RTE player at worst. If some poor Leitrim/Wexford man wants to relive how/why his team lost on Saturday then it should be available online to watch full game back
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Look at what sky did to rugby league.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 09:58:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 12, 2017, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Look at what sky did to rugby league.

?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2017, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 11, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: LilySavage on July 11, 2017, 01:49:07 AM
The comparison was made between a weekly programme on domestic soccer and one on GAA. Soccer Republic is better despite a much lower viewership and match attendances. And don't mention the National League whatever you do. Sure we'll catch that on the wireless, theres a Womens 6Nations game on RTE2 instead.
At the weekend they coupled up Tommy Carr and German Canning again for f**k sake. Ger clearly lost any interest in Gaelic Football when Larry Tompkins last laced up his boots. Tommy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. And that's being kind to him.

You can understand why he chose to just go with 'Ger' from an early age.
Late to the party but this made me lol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mayoaremagic on July 12, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing

i agree 100% the TSG bowing to the Dubs again, we had the same scenario with Ciaran Whelan last year on Keegan. The Dublin media must fear us and trying to derail another All Ireland for us. Think it time mayo media organised a campaign to defend ourselves.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 12, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 12, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing

i agree 100% the TSG bowing to the Dubs again, we had the same scenario with Ciaran Whelan last year on Keegan. The Dublin media must fear us and trying to derail another All Ireland for us. Think it time mayo media organised a campaign to defend ourselves.

Mossy writes for the Irish Examiner too, but he probably only got that gig to give the paper access to Jim Gavin  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 12, 2017, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 12, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: mayoaremagic on July 12, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing

i agree 100% the TSG bowing to the Dubs again, we had the same scenario with Ciaran Whelan last year on Keegan. The Dublin media must fear us and trying to derail another All Ireland for us. Think it time mayo media organised a campaign to defend ourselves.

Mossy writes for the Irish Examiner too, but he probably only got that gig to give the paper access to Jim Gavin  ::)

You know what, irony of your statement is that you may not be a million miles off there.

Dublin Inc. is what it is, on the field they play a good brand of football, (with the exception of Kilkennys antics of running back towards his own goal with the ball in final 5 or 10 minutes).

The other 31 counties will never ever match their population, or their sponsorship or the amount of back room people they employ. But please spare me the pathetic PR machine, whether it is Ciaran Whealan (a decent fella btw) or Mossy Quinn, who I don't know from Adam. They don't need to go there full stop. They have enough of resources as it is.

I remember that tool Marty Morrisey interviewing two Dublin players on the radio after a game a year or two ago, and he started the interview by thanks the Dublin's players PR person for bringing them up to be interviewed. To me it was a wtf moment if ever there was one.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 12, 2017, 02:59:03 PM
And don't forget the new Toyota every 6 months... 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Telly is basically on the way out. People under 30 watch far less. Everything is online for the young wans.
The problem is how to get people to pay for content. Telly does it by way of ads . Maybe the level they pitch TSG at gets the most viewers and the highest ad revenue.

If RTE showed matches plus good analysis online would people pay for it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Telly is basically on the way out. People under 30 watch far less. Everything is online for the young wans.
The problem is how to get people to pay for content. Telly does it by way of ads . Maybe the level they pitch TSG at gets the most viewers and the highest ad revenue.

If RTE showed matches plus good analysis online would people pay for it?

Well I and thousands of others watch the NFL on the gamepass app rather than sky and there is even a thing called redzone on it which has no adds!! It seems to work alright for American Football!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Telly is basically on the way out. People under 30 watch far less. Everything is online for the young wans.
The problem is how to get people to pay for content. Telly does it by way of ads . Maybe the level they pitch TSG at gets the most viewers and the highest ad revenue.

If RTE showed matches plus good analysis online would people pay for it?

Well I and thousands of others watch the NFL on the gamepass app rather than sky and there is even a thing called redzone on it which has no adds!! It seems to work alright for American Football!!
It is hard to get people to pay for stuff in certain countries
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Telly is basically on the way out. People under 30 watch far less. Everything is online for the young wans.
The problem is how to get people to pay for content. Telly does it by way of ads . Maybe the level they pitch TSG at gets the most viewers and the highest ad revenue.

If RTE showed matches plus good analysis online would people pay for it?

Well I and thousands of others watch the NFL on the gamepass app rather than sky and there is even a thing called redzone on it which has no adds!! It seems to work alright for American Football!!
It is hard to get people to pay for stuff in certain countries

Bit of a myth Seaf , there is always a certain section of society at the top and bottom that don't want to pay for things in every country. Plenty of Irish people pay for Sky Sports for rugby/soccer, pay for American football on gamepass and what about our TV licence?? My brother who lives abroad happily pays for the GAA go app so if the GAA provided a proper GAA subscription service for the majority of club & county games I think you would be surprised how many of us would happily pay.
If it was just the current outdated Sunday Game RTE produces I doubt many would pay but I think the onus is on the GAA to take the reins here and TG4 along with Sky show what can be done with some real thought and innoviation is put in to producing a GAA live & highlights program!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Telly is basically on the way out. People under 30 watch far less. Everything is online for the young wans.
The problem is how to get people to pay for content. Telly does it by way of ads . Maybe the level they pitch TSG at gets the most viewers and the highest ad revenue.

If RTE showed matches plus good analysis online would people pay for it?

Well I and thousands of others watch the NFL on the gamepass app rather than sky and there is even a thing called redzone on it which has no adds!! It seems to work alright for American Football!!
It is hard to get people to pay for stuff in certain countries

Bit of a myth Seaf , there is always a certain section of society at the top and bottom that don't want to pay for things in every country. Plenty of Irish people pay for Sky Sports for rugby/soccer, pay for American football on gamepass and what about our TV licence?? My brother who lives abroad happily pays for the GAA go app so if the GAA provided a proper GAA subscription service for the majority of club & county games I think you would be surprised how many of us would happily pay.
If it was just the current outdated Sunday Game RTE produces I doubt many would pay but I think the onus is on the GAA to take the reins here and TG4 along with Sky show what can be done with some real thought and innoviation is put in to producing a GAA live & highlights program!!
RTE are working with different models for kids who don't watch TV. Maybe they could do something for GAA fans. If they already havé the material it wouldn't necessarily be expensive. But it would need imagination.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Denn Forever on July 13, 2017, 01:04:54 PM
I can't believe any one watch the analysis during the football games.  I think we can guess what they say.  If you do watch it it is because it is like a scab you  can't leave alone.
Now the analysts for the hurling are good.  It almost seems like an arguement between 3 lads who take no notice of Michael Lyster.  And  the seem to know what they are talking about (well to someone who's never played hurling).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on July 13, 2017, 09:21:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 02:23:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on July 12, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
RTE are cat as is the analysis.
Embarrassing from a national broadcaster.

Imagine if Sky had the full package - the games would be hyped no end AND it would certainly generate more interest
Telly is basically on the way out. People under 30 watch far less. Everything is online for the young wans.
The problem is how to get people to pay for content. Telly does it by way of ads . Maybe the level they pitch TSG at gets the most viewers and the highest ad revenue.

If RTE showed matches plus good analysis online would people pay for it?

Well I and thousands of others watch the NFL on the gamepass app rather than sky and there is even a thing called redzone on it which has no adds!! It seems to work alright for American Football!!
It is hard to get people to pay for stuff in certain countries

Bit of a myth Seaf , there is always a certain section of society at the top and bottom that don't want to pay for things in every country. Plenty of Irish people pay for Sky Sports for rugby/soccer, pay for American football on gamepass and what about our TV licence?? My brother who lives abroad happily pays for the GAA go app so if the GAA provided a proper GAA subscription service for the majority of club & county games I think you would be surprised how many of us would happily pay.
If it was just the current outdated Sunday Game RTE produces I doubt many would pay but I think the onus is on the GAA to take the reins here and TG4 along with Sky show what can be done with some real thought and innoviation is put in to producing a GAA live & highlights program!!
RTE are working with different models for kids who don't watch TV. Maybe they could do something for GAA fans. If they already havé the material it wouldn't necessarily be expensive. But it would need imagination.

Exactly Seaf and I do think in the next 5 years or so we will see a change for the good!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on July 14, 2017, 11:56:46 AM
What I find hilarious is that they show the "highlights" and then focus on an incident they may not have shown in those "highlights". It's amateur hour. If it was an U20 or ladies rugby match though......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
+1.
Any oul thing will do for "bogball" >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2017, 01:50:49 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 14, 2017, 11:56:46 AM
What I find hilarious is that they show the "highlights" and then focus on an incident they may not have shown in those "highlights". It's amateur hour. If it was an U20 or ladies rugby match though......

Why would you show a lowlight in a package called 'highlights' in the first place? Time to put your thinking cap on..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 14, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
+1.
Any oul thing will do for "bogball" >:(

The basic problem is that in July they do not have enough time to do justice to all the games.
They need longer coverage of each game, maybe put some extended stuff on the player on a Monday and then show additional shows midweek with this content.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
Martin Carney is one blabbermouth throughout the whole game and manages to say nothing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 16, 2017, 05:51:16 PM
He also worships Satan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 16, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
Martin Carney is one blabbermouth throughout the whole game and manages to say nothing.
.

I did chuckle when Kildare got their late goal.

Carney just roars out "brilliant" like your man from The Fast Show. Settle down Martin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armamike on July 16, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
He's been reading too many business guru textbooks - 'the Dublin bench gives them a sustainable competitive advantage'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 16, 2017, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: Armamike on July 16, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
He's been reading too many business guru textbooks - 'the Dublin bench gives them a sustainable competitive advantage'.

Very much so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
The Dublin bench is a peripheral competency.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
I see they have edited Ger Cannings commentating on the Sunday game. During the live match he hadn't a clue who scored the Tyrone goals.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on July 16, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
So kildare get tanked by the dubs and get ranked 5th out of 12. Rossies tank Galway and they are ranked 6th and 7th resp. Poor stuff lads.

For what its worth I'd say Down won't recover but Monaghan/Armagh are very capable of beating kildare
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 16, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Sunday Game have sank to new depths. Ranking 12 counties and then sticking camogie analysis in the middle of the programme. Then shove the qualifier matches at the end of the programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2017, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 16, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Sunday Game have sank to new depths. Ranking 12 counties and then sticking camogie analysis in the middle of the programme. Then shove the qualifier matches at the end of the programme.

It is rather odd to rank the teams before showing the games!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 10:42:46 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 14, 2017, 07:04:01 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 14, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
+1.
Any oul thing will do for "bogball" >:(

The basic problem is that in July they do not have enough time to do justice to all the games.
They need longer coverage of each game, maybe put some extended stuff on the player on a Monday and then show additional shows midweek with this content.
Well said
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on July 16, 2017, 10:43:57 PM
I used to love watching TSG.
It's turned into an awful pile of shite though recently.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 16, 2017, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
I see they have edited Ger Cannings commentating on the Sunday game. During the live match he hadn't a clue who scored the Tyrone goals.

Yeah did he say Mattie Donnelly for second goal?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 16, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
Didn't bother watching it, have it recorded and will watch the match highlights & skip the "analysis"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 16, 2017, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 16, 2017, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2017, 10:12:38 PM
I see they have edited Ger Cannings commentating on the Sunday game. During the live match he hadn't a clue who scored the Tyrone goals.

Yeah did he say Mattie Donnelly for second goal?

The BBC cameraman showed Mattie Donnelly after the goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 11:18:37 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 16, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
So kildare get tanked by the dubs and get ranked 5th out of 12. Rossies tank Galway and they are ranked 6th and 7th resp. Poor stuff lads.

For what its worth I'd say Down won't recover but Monaghan/Armagh are very capable of beating kildare
Sports lists are a joke
Who cares beyond 4 anyway?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2017, 11:24:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 11:18:37 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 16, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
So kildare get tanked by the dubs and get ranked 5th out of 12. Rossies tank Galway and they are ranked 6th and 7th resp. Poor stuff lads.

For what its worth I'd say Down won't recover but Monaghan/Armagh are very capable of beating kildare
Sports lists are a joke
Who cares beyond 4 anyway?

Martin Brehony made a good living out of sports lists. Maybe he is the mastermind behind this latest Sunday game effort.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2017, 11:53:06 PM
It's hard to believe Spillane still makes a living out of the rubbish he talked tonight. When putting the heal into Monaghan and their aspiration this year. Des says but sure Monaghan has a population similar to Carlow. Spillane says ''But they are a Division One team''. And panics with a statement that they have no forwards. To which Des says ''sure that's because the county is small?'' To which Spillane says they are a Division One team. Talk about being caught in the Headlights!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 16, 2017, 11:56:26 PM
what a joke those lists are.............Roscommon 6th what a farce, they would be eaten alive by the likes of monaghan.......not a top ten at all....the usual poor sporting analysis....the most recent performance of a team blinds all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2017, 11:58:45 PM
Watching back now on the live show. So far they've messed up the graphics for the Down line-up and, despite being asked a direct question, Gooch has been unable to answer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 17, 2017, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 16, 2017, 11:56:26 PM
what a joke those lists are.............Roscommon 6th what a farce, they would be eaten alive by the likes of monaghan.......not a top ten at all....the usual poor sporting analysis....the most recent performance of a team blinds all.
Monaghan on Saturday evening didn't eat Carlow of Div 4 alive and were knocked out of Ulster by Down. The best and most detailed ranking list around is over on boards.ie
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 17, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
Do we need former players to comment and analyse games?

Has there to be always a Kerryman on every panel?

Why are there no connacht representatives anymore?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:33:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
Do we need former players to comment and analyse games?

Has there to be always a Kerryman on every panel?

Why are there no connacht representatives anymore?
Because if you take the job you end up managing Roscommon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weareros on July 17, 2017, 12:40:19 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:33:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
Do we need former players to comment and analyse games?

Has there to be always a Kerryman on every panel?

Why are there no connacht representatives anymore?
Because if you take the job you end up managing Roscommon.

McStay managed Roscommon teams before he ever became a pundit on RTE. That said there's no shortage of Mayomen in the pundit business: James Horan, John Maughan, Martin Carney, Tommy Lyons, Billy Joe Padden, David Brady, the afore mentioned McStay. They certainly rival if not exceed any county when it comes to representation in broadcast media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 17, 2017, 12:43:50 AM
Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2017, 12:40:19 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:33:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 17, 2017, 12:12:07 AM
Do we need former players to comment and analyse games?

Has there to be always a Kerryman on every panel?

Why are there no connacht representatives anymore?
Because if you take the job you end up managing Roscommon.

McStay managed Roscommon teams before he ever became a pundit on RTE. That said there's no shortage of Mayomen in the pundit business: James Horan, John Maughan, Martin Carney, Tommy Lyons, Billy Joe Padden, David Brady, the afore mentioned McStay. They certainly rival if not exceed any county when it comes to representation in broadcast media.

Martin Carney is a Donegal man. His 2012 All Ireland co-commentary proved that! There is presently no representative from the 5 counties of Connacht!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:44:36 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 16, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Sunday Game have sank to new depths. Ranking 12 counties and then sticking camogie analysis in the middle of the programme. Then shove the qualifier matches at the end of the programme.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890735-sunday-game-panel-debate-football-rankings/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 08:01:17 AM
They have beefed up the analysis with Shefflin in the hurling and Gooch for football. These are two of the greatest players of the modern era. And it's interesting to watch the dynamics of the clowns when they talk to them. The big question is how the 2 legends will influence the discourse.  Will they manage to drag the clowns to a higher standard? Or will they fall to the level of the clowns and start talking shite ?

Gerlock was on after the Cork Tipp match writing poetry to Munster hurling , so happy that Henry could share it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on July 17, 2017, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 16, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
Martin Carney is one blabbermouth throughout the whole game and manages to say nothing.

How is that gobshite still on the telly? Announces at start of second half McCarthy gone to midfield Kilkenny to centre forward. What game was he watching in first half  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 17, 2017, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 08:01:17 AM
They have beefed up the analysis with Shefflin in the hurling and Gooch for football. These are two of the greatest players of the modern era. And it's interesting to watch the dynamics of the clowns when they talk to them. The big question is how the 2 legends will influence the discourse.  Will they manage to drag the clowns to a higher standard? Or will they fall to the level of the clowns and start talking shite ?

Gerlock was on after the Cork Tipp match writing poetry to Munster hurling , so happy that Henry could share it.

I actually think Shefflin is one of the weakest hurling pundits
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on July 17, 2017, 11:45:31 PM
Thought Aaron Kernan was very good, obviously has the in depth knowledge of the Armagh scene to help.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 17, 2017, 11:51:17 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 17, 2017, 11:45:31 PM
Thought Aaron Kernan was very good, obviously has the in depth knowledge of the Armagh scene to help.

Mighta been but I couldna understand a word he said
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 18, 2017, 06:36:28 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:44:36 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 16, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Sunday Game have sank to new depths. Ranking 12 counties and then sticking camogie analysis in the middle of the programme. Then shove the qualifier matches at the end of the programme.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890735-sunday-game-panel-debate-football-rankings/

What a completely useless piece of analysis the ranking was. "Aaron, you put Donegal one place higher than the other lads, what's the thinking there?" Utterly pointless!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sensethetone on July 18, 2017, 07:47:49 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 18, 2017, 06:36:28 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:44:36 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 16, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Sunday Game have sank to new depths. Ranking 12 counties and then sticking camogie analysis in the middle of the programme. Then shove the qualifier matches at the end of the programme.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890735-sunday-game-panel-debate-football-rankings/

What a completely useless piece of analysis the ranking was. "Aaron, you put Donegal one place higher than the other lads, what's the thinking there?" Utterly pointless!

The hype Des put into these top 12 lists was unreal, then when the panel was ready to name them they all turned over a sheet of paper, didn't want any coping or they'd all have to start again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 18, 2017, 08:19:01 AM
no offence to the Camogie, but surely they are deserving of their own highlights programme?
same with the Ladies Football?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on July 18, 2017, 11:14:23 AM
Quote from: Minder on July 17, 2017, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 08:01:17 AM
They have beefed up the analysis with Shefflin in the hurling and Gooch for football. These are two of the greatest players of the modern era. And it's interesting to watch the dynamics of the clowns when they talk to them. The big question is how the 2 legends will influence the discourse.  Will they manage to drag the clowns to a higher standard? Or will they fall to the level of the clowns and start talking shite ?

Gerlock was on after the Cork Tipp match writing poetry to Munster hurling , so happy that Henry could share it.

I actually think Shefflin is one of the weakest hurling pundits

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 18, 2017, 01:55:05 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on July 18, 2017, 07:47:49 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 18, 2017, 06:36:28 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 17, 2017, 12:44:36 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 16, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
Sunday Game have sank to new depths. Ranking 12 counties and then sticking camogie analysis in the middle of the programme. Then shove the qualifier matches at the end of the programme.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0716/890735-sunday-game-panel-debate-football-rankings/

What a completely useless piece of analysis the ranking was. "Aaron, you put Donegal one place higher than the other lads, what's the thinking there?" Utterly pointless!

The hype Des put into these top 12 lists was unreal, then when the panel was ready to name them they all turned over a sheet of paper, didn't want any coping or they'd all have to start again.

I had the misfortune of listening to the Marty squad last Sunday evening, I figured there might have been some insightful analysis after the two provincial finals.

Boy was I wrong.

Instead, I got Marty interviewing supporters after the game and providing his usual geography lesson, this time it was Newbridge and the Bog of Allen. Then continued to talk about how husband and wife met, etc etc... and it even got to a sister in law.

Same Sh*te from the on the ground reporter in Clones.

Meanwhile back in the studio, Keith Barr followed up every comment with "Ya know what I mean"

A former Kildare footballer (not 100% sure of name) pipes up after giving his analysis, "well now Kildare have to get ready for Monaghan who they face in two weeks"  totally incorrect, Nobody even bothered to correct him despite their being a draw on RTE the next morning.

Pure cringeworthy.

In a time slot where you have such a captive audience looking for some decent analysis, you would think that RTE would make a serious effort to produce something of half quality. I don't live in Ireland, but are there any radio shows on competing radio stations that take advantage of this crap and have a proper show at this time slot.

I saw Michael Deignans comments on SKY, he should be put in a room and be forced to listed to that show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bart McQueen on July 19, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on July 10, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: criostlinn on July 10, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
Quote from: mackers on July 09, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Thought Tomas Quinn was excellent tonight.

RTE must be under severe pressure from sponsors to get back in Dublins good books.

Like ffs, the Commercial and Marketing Manager for Dublin GAA brought on as a pundit on the show.Can nobody see the irony of this after the ass Jim Gavin made of himself a couple of weeks ago. I could only laugh when I seen him talking about zoomed in grainy footage of Cillian O'Connor that shows nothing


I completely forgot he was in that role. That HAS to be a pander to Dublin GAA to try to smooth relations. Could you imagine if they invited on the Mayo PRO as an analyst ffs!
You're spot on about the Cillian O'Connor incident - even zoomed in, there is nothing to see, yet they choose to highlight that over the many ACTUAL red card incidents that occurred in games over the weekend.
Dublin and Kerry men trying to sew the seed in referees minds for further down the line - their media machines are working very nicely. Des Cahill is either complicit in it or doesn't even see what's going on around him   ::)

We do mayo always blame someone else for their failing. We in kerry doing on talking on the pitch

2012 Joe Brolly media campaign
2013 Joe McQuillian not playing more time
2014 Cormac Reilly
2016 dublin media campaign
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on July 19, 2017, 10:30:14 PM
We do Kerry people not spel buttercup
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on July 23, 2017, 11:00:53 PM
Jeez Brolly has to be the worst analyst ever.He has about 10 false statements in about 2 minutes of analysis
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 23, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
Eventually we get the camogie highlights. Been waiting on this all weekend.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 23, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
I can't believe they didn't discuss Murphy black card.

Enjoying the debate and they cut to camogie.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aughafad on July 23, 2017, 11:10:49 PM
The sunday game has been finished as a show of any great importance long ago. Once they put Des Cahill up front and skipped any real analysis to just having ex players throw out a few sound bites.
As a fan any highlights package should highlight the contentious decisions that occurred and then give their view not pander to the joe brollys, pat spillanes and colm o rourkes of this world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on July 23, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
Brolly is far too long winded but he did make some good points tonight. Mayo full back is a liability and Mayo are very vulnerable when you run at them. Cork had 4 or maybe even 5 good goal chances yesterday and only took 2. That's a problem for Mayo
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 23, 2017, 11:23:47 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 23, 2017, 11:01:33 PM
Eventually we get the camogie highlights. Been waiting on this all weekend.

Seriously who dreamt this shite up, with camogie "analysts" now too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: regal on July 23, 2017, 11:24:40 PM
Fair play to mayo & castlebar - 40,000 supporters turning up after their yearly near miss
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 23, 2017, 11:27:58 PM
Quote from: maigheo on July 23, 2017, 11:00:53 PM
Jeez Brolly has to be the worst analyst ever.He has about 10 false statements in about 2 minutes of analysis

40,000 turn up for to welcome a losing Mayo team in McHale Park. Jez, you'd be lucky to get a thousand (children)! Sorry Brolly but this is not 1989! The novelty of just being in an All Ireland final has well collapsed!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 23, 2017, 11:40:04 PM
He thinks Kerry and Mayo will have it easy enough. This is music to my ears. Joe must have enjoyed his night in Boyle a few weeks ago because he's playing a blinder for us..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 23, 2017, 11:50:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2017, 11:40:04 PM
He thinks Kerry and Mayo will have it easy enough. This is music to my ears. Joe must have enjoyed his night in Boyle a few weeks ago because he's playing a blinder for us..

Don't know about Mayo! But Galway will have their work cut out for them!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on July 24, 2017, 01:41:06 AM
So Mayo have been unable to win the all Ireland because 40,000 people show up at Mchale park after a finals loss.So happy to have tuned into the Sunday game tonight to have learned that priceless bit of information.Thanks Joe for the brilliance of your observation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 24, 2017, 02:17:34 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2017, 11:40:04 PM
He thinks Kerry and Mayo will have it easy enough. This is music to my ears. Joe must have enjoyed his night in Boyle a few weeks ago because he's playing a blinder for us..
I wouldn't be surprised if Mayo decided to impose droit de seigneur on the Rossies. Connacht is really a caste system featuring Cinderossie and her 2 ugly sisters.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 24, 2017, 07:04:25 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.

And he managed to get his few obligatory digs at Tyrone in too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 24, 2017, 07:37:38 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 24, 2017, 07:04:25 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.

And he managed to get his few obligatory digs at Tyrone in too.
I didn't realise the Tyrone confidence thing. I would have thought they were one of the top teams but after Donegal were beaten there were questions asked. Brolly loves stirring.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 24, 2017, 09:59:37 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.

Heard that. The match being on sky just means less people watch it at home. If your team is playing in a big match, most people will make their way to a pub, even if they never frequent a pub.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 24, 2017, 11:16:06 AM
Brolly just can't help himself can he.
Here he was writing in his newspaper article about Ronan O'Neill's lob but then he comes out with..

For the neutral, it made watching the rest of the match worth it. It also showed the importance of real skill and took the bad taste off Sean Cavanagh's roll around on the ground. Down's leader Kevin McKernan got black-carded, a decision that was swiftly rescinded by the CHC when they watched the footage. If Sean isn't taking one for the team, he's taking one off the other team. It is ironic indeed that a man whose cynicism on the field helped create popular support for the black card has become one of its main beneficiaries.

For those of you who didn't see it. Sean had his back to McKernan who runs at him from behind and shoulders him to the ground into his back.

I see also Colm O'Rourke couldn't resist having a pop at us as well, giving out about Morgan's antics though he did commend big Sean for not reacting to the Down's nipple tactics.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-pinching-a-players-nipple-is-aggravating-and-a-slap-in-the-mouth-is-the-best-reply-35957735.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-pinching-a-players-nipple-is-aggravating-and-a-slap-in-the-mouth-is-the-best-reply-35957735.html)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 24, 2017, 11:16:06 AM


For those of you who didn't see it. Sean had his back to McKernan who runs at him from behind and shoulders him to the ground into his back.

I see also Colm O'Rourke couldn't resist having a pop at us as well, giving out about Morgan's antics though he did commend big Sean for not reacting to the Down's nipple tactics.
(http://cdn-04.independent.ie/incoming/article35959211.ece/cbed3/BINARY/1353878.jpg)

Aye. If brolly got a shoulder to the back like that he'd have fallen to the floor as well. He just can't resist having a pop can he.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on July 24, 2017, 11:53:41 AM
The photo could be misleading but did Cavanagh think he was getting through there?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on July 24, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
What other option had he? If he turned back there was another man behind him, so like so many times he was just stripped of possession. It's tough playing up front on your own. He was getting this abuse all day with the Down full back lucky a few times I felt not to get cards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on July 24, 2017, 12:31:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.

proper order. Both Dublin and Tyrone q/f's only on Murdoch's Sky, disgraceful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on July 24, 2017, 12:49:52 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 24, 2017, 12:20:56 PM
What other option had he? If he turned back there was another man behind him, so like so many times he was just stripped of possession. It's tough playing up front on your own. He was getting this abuse all day with the Down full back lucky a few times I felt not to get cards.

I think he needs to lay the ball off quicker. obviously that's not always possible and i don't know if it was possible this time/

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 24, 2017, 12:31:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.

proper order. Both Dublin and Tyrone q/f's only on Murdoch's Sky, disgraceful.
Proper order.
The 4 Gaelic Counties on RTÉ, the 4 Anglo/Norman/Protestant Counties on SKY.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on July 24, 2017, 01:41:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 24, 2017, 01:38:57 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 24, 2017, 12:31:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2017, 05:36:45 AM
Wondered how long it would take brolly to throw a dig at sky and he didn't disappoint. Must have been in the first minute! He just couldn't help himself.

proper order. Both Dublin and Tyrone q/f's only on Murdoch's Sky, disgraceful.
Proper order.
The 4 Gaelic Counties on RTÉ, the 4 Anglo/Norman/Protestant Counties on SKY.

the Mayo threads are missing you
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 24, 2017, 03:10:13 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 24, 2017, 11:16:06 AM
Brolly just can't help himself can he.
Here he was writing in his newspaper article about Ronan O'Neill's lob but then he comes out with..

For the neutral, it made watching the rest of the match worth it. It also showed the importance of real skill and took the bad taste off Sean Cavanagh's roll around on the ground. Down's leader Kevin McKernan got black-carded, a decision that was swiftly rescinded by the CHC when they watched the footage. If Sean isn't taking one for the team, he's taking one off the other team. It is ironic indeed that a man whose cynicism on the field helped create popular support for the black card has become one of its main beneficiaries.

For those of you who didn't see it. Sean had his back to McKernan who runs at him from behind and shoulders him to the ground into his back.

I see also Colm O'Rourke couldn't resist having a pop at us as well, giving out about Morgan's antics though he did commend big Sean for not reacting to the Down's nipple tactics.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-pinching-a-players-nipple-is-aggravating-and-a-slap-in-the-mouth-is-the-best-reply-35957735.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-pinching-a-players-nipple-is-aggravating-and-a-slap-in-the-mouth-is-the-best-reply-35957735.html)

He came at him more from the side and while he hit him a bit of a shoulder it didn't really call for Cavanagh's trademark swandive!!

Not that it made a difference in the match but glad to see McKernan is free to play this weekend again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/i-lost-a-lot-the-last-ten-years-including-my-business-michael-duignan-accuses-davy-fitz-of-sinister-remarks-35969332.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on July 26, 2017, 01:30:39 PM
Between them they're giving this thing some legs.

I haven't seen any reply from Shefflin.
Fecking Sunday game is the headline news after Championship weekend more than the Championship itself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on July 26, 2017, 01:30:39 PM
Between them they're giving this thing some legs.

I haven't seen any reply from Shefflin.
Fecking Sunday game is the headline news after Championship weekend more than the Championship itself.

Michael Duignan Retweeted 


Gavan Reilly‏Verified account @gavreilly · Jul 24 


Davy Fitz: RTE should "get analysts who have been on the sideline"

Me: Here is @duignanmichael managing Meath, before he managed Offaly

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 26, 2017, 01:49:53 PM
Duignan never managed Offaly. He was a selector for a while.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on July 26, 2017, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on July 26, 2017, 01:49:53 PM
Duignan never managed Offaly. He was a selector for a while.

Yip, he also said he managed kids teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
When you are discussing a successful coach," sports psychologist Bruce Ogilvie once said, not of Ramsay but of the entire profession, "you are not necessarily drawing the profile of an entirely healthy person."
― David Halberstam, The Breaks of the Game

That definitely applies to some of the top hurling managers

"I have no idea, Marty. Did you check all the other frees as well to see were they dodgy? [Uneasy laughter] Maybe you should. Maybe you should."

"What did you think of the referee overall; do you think he allowed a lot to go?


and it's a very different skillset to being a TV analyst

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 26, 2017, 02:24:25 PM

We're at the height of summer with Championship games coming think and fast in all codes. What has been the lead sports story on the RTE Sport website all morning? That's right, another RTE pundit making an "impassioned" defense of his existence.

Tells you all you need to know about RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on July 26, 2017, 02:28:16 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 26, 2017, 02:24:25 PM

We're at the height of summer with Championship games coming think and fast in all codes. What has been the lead sports story on the RTE Sport website all morning? That's right, another RTE pundit making an "impassioned" defense of his existence.

Tells you all you need to know about RTE.

That's been the case for years. It's the same right across RTE sports and Entertainment.
They produce a show and then use their other productions to promote them. TSG will always be the reference point in RTE news.

When Brolly had his rant about Sean Cavanagh, it was played over and over again all week in RTE news. The same thing happened Diamuid Conolly more recently. His name was dragged back and forth through different RTE departments while they discussed Joe Brolly and Pat Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on July 26, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
Whatever about Duignan, I love Davy Fitz, I reckon RTE need a Davycam. I don't know him personally but he exudes passion and will to wim.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 26, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
Whatever about Duignan, I love Davy Fitz, I reckon RTE need a Davycam. I don't know him personally but he exudes passion and will to wim.
I prefer the impressions of Davy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV-NygyZ0vE
I have a lot of time for Duignan
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on July 26, 2017, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on July 26, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
Whatever about Duignan, I love Davy Fitz, I reckon RTE need a Davycam. I don't know him personally but he exudes passion and will to wim.
I prefer the impressions of Davy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV-NygyZ0vE
I have a lot of time for Duignan

Have a lot of time for Duignan myself. For both of them to be fair. Davy is a bit mischievous and craves praise. I think recently Duignan hasn't done himself any favours with his comments. He's only playing into Davy's barrow.....allowing him to continue in the limelight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2017, 10:31:14 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on July 26, 2017, 01:30:39 PM
Between them they're giving this thing some legs.

I haven't seen any reply from Shefflin.
Fecking Sunday game is the headline news after Championship weekend more than the Championship itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxoshRJf3SE
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 26, 2017, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on July 26, 2017, 01:30:39 PM
Between them they're giving this thing some legs.

I haven't seen any reply from Shefflin.
Fecking Sunday game is the headline news after Championship weekend more than the Championship itself.

Says it all really. Controversy is the only thing keeping it going.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 26, 2017, 11:08:33 PM
I know FB abd Twitter are made for stirring shite but as I ssid before the first thing on a Sunday night and all day Monday across the RTE social media channels will be too push what their pundits said.
It's also sonething controversial rather than some actual anslysis being reviewed...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on July 27, 2017, 08:06:06 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 26, 2017, 04:28:27 PM

Have a lot of time for Duignan myself. For both of them to be fair. Davy is a bit mischievous and craves praise. I think recently Duignan hasn't done himself any favours with his comments. He's only playing into Davy's barrow.....allowing him to continue in the limelight.

Not at all. Duignan is smarter than that. He's keeping up his own profile.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?

Did he not do any Research the last couple of Weeks? Did he not read the Rumours online? In the newspapers?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?

Did he not do any Research the last couple of Weeks? Did he not read the Rumours online? In the newspapers?

What difference would that make? If Parsons was injured, he couldn't have come on. If he wasn't injured and didn't start, that means he was dropped. There are no other possible interpretations. Pat's a fossil and should have been put out to grass as a pundit years ago, but he's correct about this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?

Did he not do any Research the last couple of Weeks? Did he not read the Rumours online? In the newspapers?

What difference would that make? If Parsons was injured, he couldn't have come on. If he wasn't injured and didn't start, that means he was dropped. There are no other possible interpretations. Pat's a fossil and should have been put out to grass as a pundit years ago, but he's correct about this.

Depends on the injury I suppose?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 30, 2017, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?

I heard Parsons had a nose injury.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Three Connacht teams in Croke Park today and no analysist west of the Shannon!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 30, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Three Connacht teams in Croke Park today and no analysist west of the Shannon!

Probably half a dozen camogie analysts though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 30, 2017, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 09:34:00 PM
Three Connacht teams in Croke Park today and no analysist west of the Shannon!

The best one they ever had was a bit busy this afternoon, in fairness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
Fair play to Rory Kavanagh for calling out Donaghy for grabbing Galway player by the throat. Des Cahill his usual useless self didn't even ask Colm Cooper for an opinion. The man is a waste of oxygen
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on July 30, 2017, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
Fair play to Rory Kavanagh for calling out Donaghy for grabbing Galway player by the throat. Des Cahill his usual useless self didn't even ask Colm Cooper for an opinion. The man is a waste of oxygen

Fair enough but why did COC get a free pass?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 30, 2017, 10:20:46 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
Fair play to Rory Kavanagh for calling out Donaghy for grabbing Galway player by the throat. Des Cahill his usual useless self didn't even ask Colm Cooper for an opinion. The man is a waste of oxygen

Fair enough but why did COC get a free pass?

I agree. That should have raised as well. It's not the 1st time he's done it.

As for Brian McGuigan saying Donaghy should get a pass because he isn't Diarmuod Connolly should mean it's the last time he is allowed appear on the show
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 30, 2017, 10:56:06 PM
Rory Kavanagh would know all about cheap shots
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
As for Brian McGuigan saying Donaghy should get a pass because he isn't Diarmuod Connolly should mean it's the last time he is allowed appear on the show


Huh? Was he not being ironic?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
As for Brian McGuigan saying Donaghy should get a pass because he isn't Diarmuod Connolly should mean it's the last time he is allowed appear on the show


Huh? Was he not being ironic?

Accordimg to Brian because Connolly has reputation for trouble and Donaghy doesn't different rules apply
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 11:05:10 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
As for Brian McGuigan saying Donaghy should get a pass because he isn't Diarmuod Connolly should mean it's the last time he is allowed appear on the show


Huh? Was he not being ironic?

Accordimg to Brian because Connolly has reputation for trouble and Donaghy doesn't different rules apply

He was pointing up the irony of it, so far as I could make out, ie, calling it out for the mockery it was, and citing Connolly to prove the point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on July 30, 2017, 11:08:09 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 11:05:10 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 30, 2017, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on July 30, 2017, 10:49:35 PM
As for Brian McGuigan saying Donaghy should get a pass because he isn't Diarmuod Connolly should mean it's the last time he is allowed appear on the show


Huh? Was he not being ironic?

Accordimg to Brian because Connolly has reputation for trouble and Donaghy doesn't different rules apply

He was pointing up the irony of it, so far as I could make out, ie, calling it out for the mockery it was, and citing Connolly to prove the point.

I thought the same - laced with sarcasm
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2017, 11:08:41 PM
Brian McGuigan looked very nervous there speaking and like he needed to clear his throat
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Was only half listening yesterday but what was the tiff they kept referring to between Brolly and Spillane?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 31, 2017, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Was only half listening yesterday but what was the tiff they kept referring to between Brolly and Spillane?

The soap opera surrounding Pat's Sunday Game dressing down of Connolly and Joe & Dessie subsequently throwing Spillane under the bus the following week.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 31, 2017, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Was only half listening yesterday but what was the tiff they kept referring to between Brolly and Spillane?

The soap opera surrounding Pat's Sunday Game dressing down of Connolly and Joe & Dessie subsequently throwing Spillane under the bus the following week.

Have they not been on together since? Sure that was the start of June was it not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 31, 2017, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 31, 2017, 10:03:51 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on July 31, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Was only half listening yesterday but what was the tiff they kept referring to between Brolly and Spillane?

The soap opera surrounding Pat's Sunday Game dressing down of Connolly and Joe & Dessie subsequently throwing Spillane under the bus the following week.

Have they not been on together since? Sure that was the start of June was it not.

Not 100% sure but I did notice Joe was doing a lot of pitchside work recently.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on July 31, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?

Did he not do any Research the last couple of Weeks? Did he not read the Rumours online? In the newspapers?

What difference would that make? If Parsons was injured, he couldn't have come on. If he wasn't injured and didn't start, that means he was dropped. There are no other possible interpretations. Pat's a fossil and should have been put out to grass as a pundit years ago, but he's correct about this.

Depends on the injury I suppose?

I've spent the past thirty or so hours trying to figure what sort of an injury a man could have that would prevent him from starting but not stop him from being sent on to pull the fat from the fire.

Is he still injured? Will he start the next day? These are all pretty relevant questions, you know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 04, 2017, 10:11:36 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 31, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:56:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on July 30, 2017, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Spillane found it amazing today that Parsons was Dropped for todays game?  ;D

I found it amazing myself. I had heard that Parsons had a hamstring injury but if he did have a hamstring injury, how could he have come on in the last ten minutes? And if he didn't have a hamstring injury, why wasn't he starting?

Did he not do any Research the last couple of Weeks? Did he not read the Rumours online? In the newspapers?

What difference would that make? If Parsons was injured, he couldn't have come on. If he wasn't injured and didn't start, that means he was dropped. There are no other possible interpretations. Pat's a fossil and should have been put out to grass as a pundit years ago, but he's correct about this.

Depends on the injury I suppose?

I've spent the past thirty or so hours trying to figure what sort of an injury a man could have that would prevent him from starting but not stop him from being sent on to pull the fat from the fire.

Is he still injured? Will he start the next day? These are all pretty relevant questions, you know.

What kind of an injury did Peter Canavan have in 2003?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 04, 2017, 11:38:02 PM
He damaged his ankle after jumping for a high ball with Seamus Moynaghan in the Semi. Not sure if it was a sprain or ligament damage. Something tells me it was right and serious and he got by on the magic injections.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 05, 2017, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 04, 2017, 11:38:02 PM
He damaged his ankle after jumping for a high ball with Seamus Moynaghan in the Semi. Not sure if it was a sprain or ligament damage. Something tells me it was right and serious and he got by on the magic injections.

Knew it was something like that! Just trying to give an example of a player being injured and a Manager still getting what they could out of the player.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2017, 06:31:51 PM
The pundits on the Sunday game now are a serious  improvement on Spillane and co
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.

Discussing tactics when we've witnessed a massive gap between some of the best teams in the country is slightly missing the point that everyone is talking about.

It's this type of cheerleading that means no one takes Canavan or Horan all that seriously on Sky, they're being told to play into Sky's home brand of analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 06, 2017, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.

Discussing tactics when we've witnessed a massive gap between some of the best teams in the country is slightly missing the point that everyone is talking about.

It's this type of cheerleading that means no one takes Canavan or Horan all that seriously on Sky, they're being told to play into Sky's home brand of analysis.

It's about selling a (shite) brand and Pundits Justifying their Jobs as pundits! Yesterdays games could not be tactically analysed as they were total mismatches to begin with.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 06, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2017, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.

Discussing tactics when we've witnessed a massive gap between some of the best teams in the country is slightly missing the point that everyone is talking about.

It's this type of cheerleading that means no one takes Canavan or Horan all that seriously on Sky, they're being told to play into Sky's home brand of analysis.

It's about selling a (shite) brand and Pundits Justifying their Jobs as pundits! Yesterdays games could not be tactically analysed as they were total mismatches to begin with.

Eh? Of course these matches can be analysed to show what the better teams are doing that is enabling them to win these games so easily. Showing that Dublin clearly have a width creating strategy yesterday was useful in the context of how that will work against Tyrones packed defense. Each to their own but give me analysis of what the teams are doing tactically over someone just telling me the game is shite any day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 06, 2017, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 06, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2017, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.

Discussing tactics when we've witnessed a massive gap between some of the best teams in the country is slightly missing the point that everyone is talking about.

It's this type of cheerleading that means no one takes Canavan or Horan all that seriously on Sky, they're being told to play into Sky's home brand of analysis.

It's about selling a (shite) brand and Pundits Justifying their Jobs as pundits! Yesterdays games could not be tactically analysed as they were total mismatches to begin with.

Eh? Of course these matches can be analysed to show what the better teams are doing that is enabling them to win these games so easily. Showing that Dublin clearly have a width creating strategy yesterday was useful in the context of how that will work against Tyrones packed defense. Each to their own but give me analysis of what the teams are doing tactically over someone just telling me the game is shite any day.

Fair enough!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 06, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2017, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.

Discussing tactics when we've witnessed a massive gap between some of the best teams in the country is slightly missing the point that everyone is talking about.

It's this type of cheerleading that means no one takes Canavan or Horan all that seriously on Sky, they're being told to play into Sky's home brand of analysis.

It's about selling a (shite) brand and Pundits Justifying their Jobs as pundits! Yesterdays games could not be tactically analysed as they were total mismatches to begin with.

Eh? Of course these matches can be analysed to show what the better teams are doing that is enabling them to win these games so easily. Showing that Dublin clearly have a width creating strategy yesterday was useful in the context of how that will work against Tyrones packed defense. Each to their own but give me analysis of what the teams are doing tactically over someone just telling me the game is shite any day.

What if the sport is shite?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on August 06, 2017, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 01:28:55 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 06, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 06, 2017, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 06, 2017, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: The Trap on August 05, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
I am in bad form today.......2 bad games does that to you.....I like sky coverage most of the time but why dont they just call this as it is......2 terrible games instead of trying to make them out to be something else??? At least spillage brolly and orourke would call it.

Why do you need them to tell you? They didn't try to say it was great stuff but they discussed the tactics. I thought the analysis of Dublins width was very interesting and poses a severe problem for Tyrone's defensive system to deal with. I don't need ex players just sitting there telling me the game was shite.

Discussing tactics when we've witnessed a massive gap between some of the best teams in the country is slightly missing the point that everyone is talking about.

It's this type of cheerleading that means no one takes Canavan or Horan all that seriously on Sky, they're being told to play into Sky's home brand of analysis.

It's about selling a (shite) brand and Pundits Justifying their Jobs as pundits! Yesterdays games could not be tactically analysed as they were total mismatches to begin with.

Eh? Of course these matches can be analysed to show what the better teams are doing that is enabling them to win these games so easily. Showing that Dublin clearly have a width creating strategy yesterday was useful in the context of how that will work against Tyrones packed defense. Each to their own but give me analysis of what the teams are doing tactically over someone just telling me the game is shite any day.

What if the sport is shite?

You can see that for yourself. It doesn't take an ex pro to tell you that a game is shite. But I couldn't see the Dublin tactics from my TV yesterday but could see the game was shite. I don't remember Peter or Horan claiming otherwise. Like I say, each to their own!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on August 06, 2017, 04:00:28 PM
Agree with Bennyharp .To compare the Rte  analysis and sky analysis is like comparing the league of Ireland to the premiership.After an enthralling game last week between Ros and Mayo all Spillane and Brollys analysis consisted of was telling us how bad a game it was.Will not make the mistake of listening to them again
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
Irish language option available for Hurling. Can hardly understand a word, but at least it's not Ger Canning.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: maigheo on August 06, 2017, 04:00:28 PM
Agree with Bennyharp .To compare the Rte  analysis and sky analysis is like comparing the league of Ireland to the premiership.After an enthralling game last week between Ros and Mayo all Spillane and Brollys analysis consisted of was telling us how bad a game it was.Will not make the mistake of listening to them again

Couldn't believe what I was hearing. I thought it was one of the games of the championship. If the game is a low scoring blanket v blanket he complains. If it's open and end to end like last week he complains anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
I'm sure if Ciaran Whelan is on tonight he will be asking Jonny Cooper to make a public apology for his dive yesterday.

I'm sure Colm O'Rourke will be bringing up the bad smell that follows Dublin GAA as a result. He'll be talking about the eye gouging, the multiple biting allegations, the mass brawl in a behind closed doors friendly, one of their players laying their hands on a referee and now the diving of Cooper to throw into the mix.

Or maybe a statute of limitations exists for non-Ulster counties.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
Is it just me or does Hurling always seem to be higher up the bill. Even on weeks when we had football classics they always begin with hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
Is it just me or does Hurling always seem to be higher up the bill. Even on weeks when we had football classics they always begin with hurling.

The hurling was a semi final
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on August 06, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
Is it just me or does Hurling always seem to be higher up the bill. Even on weeks when we had football classics they always begin with hurling.

What classics you talking about?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.

Not on this year's showing so far though I wouldn't discount them yet.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 06, 2017, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.

Not on this year's showing so far though I wouldn't discount them yet.

You couldn't count them on their current form. They're running on fumes
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 06, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.

I'll be surprised if they don't raise it now. They raised the hurling helmet incident. It's really poor from cooper
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Sure wasn't the same thing being said this time last year. Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 06, 2017, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:53:50 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Sure wasn't the same thing being said this time last year. Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
3 teams have waltzed into the semi finals. Mayo (who aren't there yet) have stuttered through the championship. They are not in the top 3 whatever about last year.

3 teams waltzed into semi indeed. Jaysus, the football c'ship is like being on ultra strong antidepressants. Dull as feck. Devoid of any life or interest.

This talk of a B c'ship. I think let the top 3 play on their own, and let the other 29 play their own c'ship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.

Oh dear... not even worth a mention?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.

I'll be surprised if they don't raise it now. They raised the hurling helmet incident. It's really poor from cooper

Nothing about it, what matter is the jersey, not the act.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hereiam on August 06, 2017, 11:09:39 PM
What a load of shite. Talked 80% about how Dublin should stop Tyrone as if they are the baddies....wat about an in-depth discussion on how to stop Dublin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on August 06, 2017, 11:09:57 PM
Good show tonight with the 3 football lads.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.

I'll be surprised if they don't raise it now. They raised the hurling helmet incident. It's really poor from cooper

Nothing about it, what matter is the jersey, not the act.

What happened was on a par to what tiernan mccann did and he was ridiculed (rightly) for it. Cooper should have got the same treatment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

Saying Tyrone can put it up to Dublin is pure speculation. May be correct, but it's only speculating right now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:19:44 PM
Quote from: Hereiam on August 06, 2017, 11:09:39 PM
What a load of shite. Talked 80% about how Dublin should stop Tyrone as if they are the baddies....wat about an in-depth discussion on how to stop Dublin.

There's a air of desperation about it. They know that kerry will waltz through to the final on the that side so they need a big game on this side of the draw. Talk it up as much as possible beforehand but deep down we all know that Dublin will win it comfortably. Dublin IMO are in much better shape than last year. They are peaking now. Their movement and intensity last night was significantly stepped up since the kildare game when then didn't really bother defending.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

And Usain Bolt was the fastest man on earth last year too. Last year has nothing to do with it. mayo might win tomorrow but that will only prolong the agony. They arent beating kerry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

And Usain Bolt was the fastest man on earth last year too. Last year has nothing to do with it. mayo might win tomorrow but that will only prolong the agony. They are beating kerry.

Yes but no one was writing Usain bolt of last year or this. Point is simple,  we shouldnt write mayo of. History has proven that. Read the all Ireland thread last year. The discussion was how much will dublin beat mayo by, 10 or 20 points.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 06, 2017, 11:30:18 PM
There are only medals for the top one
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

Saying Tyrone can put it up to Dublin is pure speculation. May be correct, but it's only speculating right now.
It is not fact. When was the last time Tyrone played Dublin in the championship, since this is your measuring tool?

OK I will rephrase for you. They are the only team that have proven they can go toe to toe with Dublin in the championship and they've been pretty consistent in doing so. Last year Tyrone were hyped up as much as they are this year and they failed. To say with such certainty that Mayo aren't in the top 3 is foolish. It may be the case tomorrow, that they're gone or I could be right (again this year). And even at that roscommon might be better than Kerry!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 06, 2017, 11:45:09 PM
Even though they have been scraping through games mayo would not be beat before they want out against kerry......roscommon would. tyrone will not be beat before they go out against Dublin......now the odds are that it will be a Kerry Dublin final but there are really only 2 teams that have a chance of beating them. So even though I would normally support the underdog I hope mayo win tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on August 06, 2017, 11:49:02 PM
Mayo don't have the strength in the squad to equal kerry, dublin, tyrone. If coc, andy moran, keegan, parsons are black/red carded, it's lights out. There is no player in the top 3 that is irreplacable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 11:50:25 PM
I think Mayo can definitely take Kerry.

The problem is Mayo have not hit the height of previous years yet and don't look like doing it, so far they have been running on fumes and look like a team on the way out. Who knows though, teams have stumbled along to this stage before and turned it on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 06, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
When did Tyrone get into the "Top 3"??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 06, 2017, 11:53:59 PM
I am from tyrone but mayo are more battle hardened than we are. 12 months ago they should have won the all ireland. Yes they have been poor so far and don't look like they could do it but both tyrone and Kerry have got to the qtr final in the last looking poor and then really clicked. Don't think they will but it is not totally beyond the bounds of possibility.

Tyrone should not get beyond their station yet.......wait til we see what happens next....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
When did Tyrone get into the "Top 3"??

I think it's safe to say they are one of the top three sides by form in the country this year.

3 weeks time will tell us a lot more.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 07, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Mayo is running on empty to be honest
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 07, 2017, 12:02:07 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 06, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
When did Tyrone get into the "Top 3"??

Fair question. I think they're there because we need there to be 3 contenders. They probably aren't but for now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. There isn't much evidence for Kerry either but they've done what they need to do and they have that winning pedigree.

So if we look at the evidence of the last week or so we have maybe 3 at the top table and galway, Mayo, Monaghan and roscommon next in no particular order. Its not Dublins fault but it isn't healthy either. Back in June you could make a case for up to maybe 5 hurling teams to win the AI. I can only see 1 winner of the football and i've said that since before a ball was kicked.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 07, 2017, 12:03:44 AM
Quote from: The Trap on August 06, 2017, 11:53:59 PM

Tyrone should not get beyond their station yet.......wait til we see what happens next....
Exactly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 07, 2017, 12:09:36 AM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 11:09:03 PM
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Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.

I'll be surprised if they don't raise it now. They raised the hurling helmet incident. It's really poor from cooper

Nothing about it, what matter is the jersey, not the act.

What happened was on a par to what tiernan mccann did and he was ridiculed (rightly) for it. Cooper should have got the same treatment.
Not even in the same ballpark.
Though I was watching a shaky stream of the game, I thought for sure Conor caught the dastardly Cooper with the sharp end of his elbow, therefore Cooper went down, maybe Cooper exaggerated it but he took a fair whack all the same.
It was Conor's finest strike of the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on August 07, 2017, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 11:09:03 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 10:40:03 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 06, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Whelan is on anyway, I'm sure he'll be demanding Johnny Cooper to make a public apology.

Not even worth commentary.


Proof if proof was ever needed that the act does not matter, only the jersey worn by the perpetrator matters.

I'll be surprised if they don't raise it now. They raised the hurling helmet incident. It's really poor from cooper

Nothing about it, what matter is the jersey, not the act.

What happened was on a par to what tiernan mccann did and he was ridiculed (rightly) for it. Cooper should have got the same treatment.

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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on August 07, 2017, 12:22:05 AM
Hope Gavin takes Whelan advice & plays 2 sweepers, so Dubs will have 3 defenders marking 1 Tyrone attacker who they will never kick the ball into anyway!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 07, 2017, 08:17:23 AM
I thought the three lads last night were quite good, miles beyond anything you'd see during the live broadcast. Brian is always nervous to begin with bit settled in well, I enjoyed his quip about Mulgrew taking the safe point option for Ardboe!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 07, 2017, 02:54:16 PM
Good to have mayo back.......if we don't get 2 good semi finals now then I am going to take up the hurling... 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 07, 2017, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
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I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

And Usain Bolt was the fastest man on earth last year too. Last year has nothing to do with it. mayo might win tomorrow but that will only prolong the agony. They are beating kerry.

Yes but no one was writing Usain bolt of last year or this. Point is simple,  we shouldnt write mayo of. History has proven that. Read the all Ireland thread last year. The discussion was how much will dublin beat mayo by, 10 or 20 points.

If I knew how to do put a smug meme in here I would   ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on August 07, 2017, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 07, 2017, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

And Usain Bolt was the fastest man on earth last year too. Last year has nothing to do with it. mayo might win tomorrow but that will only prolong the agony. They are beating kerry.

Yes but no one was writing Usain bolt of last year or this. Point is simple,  we shouldnt write mayo of. History has proven that. Read the all Ireland thread last year. The discussion was how much will dublin beat mayo by, 10 or 20 points.

If I knew how to do put a smug meme in here I would   ;)

The memes will have to wait as constructing a simple sentence seems to be beyond you at this point lol 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on August 07, 2017, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 07, 2017, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 07, 2017, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 06, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 11:18:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.
Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

It is a fact. They've drawn with them in the championship two years running. No other team has caused them near as much trouble. And that's even after scoring 2 own goals last year. Last year they were written of before the first and second games. I wouldn't be writing them of so quick this year.

And Usain Bolt was the fastest man on earth last year too. Last year has nothing to do with it. mayo might win tomorrow but that will only prolong the agony. They are beating kerry.

Yes but no one was writing Usain bolt of last year or this. Point is simple,  we shouldnt write mayo of. History has proven that. Read the all Ireland thread last year. The discussion was how much will dublin beat mayo by, 10 or 20 points.

If I knew how to do put a smug meme in here I would   ;)

The memes will have to wait as constructing a simple sentence seems to be beyond you at this point lol

Ha. A meme for pride before a fall would fit me now, lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on August 07, 2017, 11:47:57 PM
Just watched today's SG or is it MG and laughed at the end at Brolly and ORourke standing up for the teams that cant make it to the Super Eights each year.
Yes that's right, EVERY single team including NY and London all have an equal chance of making it to the last eight, where they THEN become The Super Eight. The top eight teams in the championship.
But No. Derry and Meath can't get that far in recent years because teams like Armagh, Tipperary, Clare, Galway, Monaghan, Donegal are ELITE and get more money or GAA support than they do.
Anyway. What was more funny was Lyster finally let Spillane speak who strangely I found myself agreeing with and at the end of his point he squeezed Brollys knee who looked at him as of to say F##k off ya Kerry c%%t whilst wearing his funeral shirt and tie.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was watching the end of the Sky coverage of Tyrone game. Not sure who commentator was but he said its the first time Tyrone have got to the semi final without the back door or words to that affect.
I've been drinking some lovely French wine whilst on holiday so thought I'd better listen again and yes that's what he said.

Yes TSG make some balls up but to come out with that line is unreal.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 08, 2017, 06:34:21 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 07, 2017, 11:47:57 PM
Just watched today's SG or is it MG and laughed at the end at Brolly and ORourke standing up for the teams that cant make it to the Super Eights each year.
Yes that's right, EVERY single team including NY and London all have an equal chance of making it to the last eight, where they THEN become The Super Eight. The top eight teams in the championship.
But No. Derry and Meath can't get that far in recent years because teams like Armagh, Tipperary, Clare, Galway, Monaghan, Donegal are ELITE and get more money or GAA support than they do.
Anyway. What was more funny was Lyster finally let Spillane speak who strangely I found myself agreeing with and at the end of his point he squeezed Brollys knee who looked at him as of to say F##k off ya Kerry c%%t whilst wearing his funeral shirt and tie.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was watched the end of the Sky coverage of Tyrone game. Not sure who commentator was bit he said first time Tyrone have got to the semi final without the back door or words to that affect.
I've been drinking some lovely French wine whilzt on holiday so thought I'd better listen again and yes that's what he said.

Yes TSG make some balls up but yo come out with that line is unreal.

Im sure there's a point in there somewhere Fuzz about TSG, tell us in the morning maybe!

Heard that commentator too on the Sky game, he said a few things during the game and I was thinking thats boliox
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 06:57:14 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 07, 2017, 11:47:57 PM
Just watched today's SG or is it MG and laughed at the end at Brolly and ORourke standing up for the teams that cant make it to the Super Eights each year.
Yes that's right, EVERY single team including NY and London all have an equal chance of making it to the last eight, where they THEN become The Super Eight. The top eight teams in the championship.
But No. Derry and Meath can't get that far in recent years because teams like Armagh, Tipperary, Clare, Galway, Monaghan, Donegal are ELITE and get more money or GAA support than they do.
Anyway. What was more funny was Lyster finally let Spillane speak who strangely I found myself agreeing with and at the end of his point he squeezed Brollys knee who looked at him as of to say F##k off ya Kerry c%%t whilst wearing his funeral shirt and tie.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was watched the end of the Sky coverage of Tyrone game. Not sure who commentator was bit he said first time Tyrone have got to the semi final without the back door or words to that affect.
I've been drinking some lovely French wine whilzt on holiday so thought I'd better listen again and yes that's what he said.

Yes TSG make some balls up but yo come out with that line is unreal.
It was probably Peter Canavan. Rupert Murdoch makes him talk shite to bring in more Derry and Armagh viewers. Sky needs them.
For the semi final he will say that Armagh should have won the 2003 final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on August 08, 2017, 07:49:01 AM
My point was I was laughing how ridiculous TSG was again to hear such terrible inaccuracies, especially from CoR but Luster or nobody picked him on it. Then Brolly telling Spillane to F##k off when he pinched his leg was hilarious.

But to top it off the line from the sky commentator showed they all make big mistakes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 07:52:37 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 08, 2017, 07:49:01 AM
My point was I was laughing how ridiculous TSG was again to hear such terrible inaccuracies, especially from CoR but Luster or nobody picked him on it. Then Brolly telling Spillane to F##k off when he pinched his leg was hilarious.

But to top it off the line from the sky commentator showed they all make big mistakes.
They all do. I saw some thing in the paper about Meath''s all Ireland in 1998
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on August 08, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.
Who was the Derry man?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on August 08, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.
Who was the Derry man?

Apologies Donegal man!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on August 08, 2017, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.

Considering you could have had Martin Carney I wouldn't be complaining. He has got the All Ireland final the last few years and should let go by RTE. The man hasn't got a clue what's going on a lot of the time and can't relate to modern day football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on August 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 07, 2017, 11:47:57 PM
Just watched today's SG or is it MG and laughed at the end at Brolly and ORourke standing up for the teams that cant make it to the Super Eights each year.
Yes that's right, EVERY single team including NY and London all have an equal chance of making it to the last eight, where they THEN become The Super Eight. The top eight teams in the championship.
But No. Derry and Meath can't get that far in recent years because teams like Armagh, Tipperary, Clare, Galway, Monaghan, Donegal are ELITE and get more money or GAA support than they do.
Anyway. What was more funny was Lyster finally let Spillane speak who strangely I found myself agreeing with and at the end of his point he squeezed Brollys knee who looked at him as of to say F##k off ya Kerry c%%t whilst wearing his funeral shirt and tie.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was watching the end of the Sky coverage of Tyrone game. Not sure who commentator was but he said its the first time Tyrone have got to the semi final without the back door or words to that affect.
I've been drinking some lovely French wine whilst on holiday so thought I'd better listen again and yes that's what he said.

Yes TSG make some balls up but to come out with that line is unreal.

I noticed that too. Said theyve never won the all ireland through the front door. Was a boo boo on their part.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on August 08, 2017, 03:29:09 PM
I like the Sky coverage generally, but whoever was on that commentary team were shite. They had less understanding of the black card rule than Martin Carney, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 08, 2017, 06:17:11 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:54:28 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on August 08, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.
Who was the Derry man?

Apologies Donegal man!
That must have been Kevin who?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 08, 2017, 06:20:15 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.
Maybe they figured it would be a waste of time
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ballinaman on August 08, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 08, 2017, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Two Connacht teams contested yesterdays AI QF. Not a Connacht commentator in sight (I lie, Michael Lyster)! Instead we had the three Stooges. Co-commentary was from a Derry man. The lack of a Connacht commentator is a real gripe with me. Where is O'Hara? Connacht men always understand local Connacht rivalry better.

Considering you could have had Martin Carney I wouldn't be complaining. He has got the All Ireland final the last few years and should let go by RTE. The man hasn't got a clue what's going on a lot of the time and can't relate to modern day football

Martin Carney was doing co commentary for Mid West Radio.

They announced about 20 mins before throw in that Keegan wasn't starting...

Carney then proceeded to go through the team just before throw in and said "Lee Keegan at 6"

FFS.  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 13, 2017, 09:33:02 PM
I thought Donal óg was decent on match analysis today, streets ahead of the shite we get for the football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stringbean on August 13, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 13, 2017, 09:33:02 PM
I thought Donal óg was decent on match analysis today, streets ahead of the shite we get for the football
Have to agree - he was on the ball calling out the football coverage from the 00s. Loughnane and Shefflin were fairly on the back foot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 13, 2017, 11:20:02 PM
RTE missed out on not getting Tommy Walsh, a far better Kilkenny pundit than Shefflin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2017, 08:15:58 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 13, 2017, 11:20:02 PM
RTE missed out on not getting Tommy Walsh, a far better Kilkenny pundit than Shefflin.

He's brilliant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 14, 2017, 08:40:55 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2017, 08:15:58 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 13, 2017, 11:20:02 PM
RTE missed out on not getting Tommy Walsh, a far better Kilkenny pundit than Shefflin.

He's brilliant.
Mr Jackie Tee is excellent as well..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on August 14, 2017, 09:37:04 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 14, 2017, 08:40:55 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2017, 08:15:58 AM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 13, 2017, 11:20:02 PM
RTE missed out on not getting Tommy Walsh, a far better Kilkenny pundit than Shefflin.

He's brilliant.
Mr Jackie Tee is excellent as well..

Jackie in his dapper suits knows how to keep his profile high, the odd wee controversial comment but by and large he's on the button and not afraid to speak of the "dark arts" he and his fellow defenders in Kilkenny would have dabbled in when the need arose.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 21, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Just watching TSG, two inaccuracies in the first ten minutes - "mayo haven't beaten Kerry in 25 years" from Lyster and "mayo changed their FB for the replay, Brendan Harrison came in to the team" from Brolly

Do these lads do any research at all?  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2017, 04:05:14 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 21, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Just watching TSG, two inaccuracies in the first ten minutes - "mayo haven't beaten Kerry in 25 years" from Lyster and "mayo changed their FB for the replay, Brendan Harrison came in to the team" from Brolly

Do these lads do any research at all?  :o
In Brollys case no and never.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: dublin7 on August 21, 2017, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 21, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Just watching TSG, two inaccuracies in the first ten minutes - "mayo haven't beaten Kerry in 25 years" from Lyster and "mayo changed their FB for the replay, Brendan Harrison came in to the team" from Brolly

Do these lads do any research at all?  :o
I think it's safe to say they we're talking about mayo not beating Kerry in the championship and Brolly was talking about Harrison being played at FB. I think some Mayo fans are only looking for excuses to have a moan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 21, 2017, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 21, 2017, 05:58:21 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 21, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Just watching TSG, two inaccuracies in the first ten minutes - "mayo haven't beaten Kerry in 25 years" from Lyster and "mayo changed their FB for the replay, Brendan Harrison came in to the team" from Brolly

Do these lads do any research at all?  :o
I think it's safe to say they we're talking about mayo not beating Kerry in the championship and Brolly was talking about Harrison being played at FB. I think some Mayo fans are only looking for excuses to have a moan.

I know. But unless maths have changed since I was at school, 1996 isn't 25 years ago  :o
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
I know its been said many times but jaysus Dessie Dolan is hard to listen to on so commentary. He adds nothing to the experience and runs through the same banal cliche time after time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2017, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 08:38:18 PM
I know its been said many times but jaysus Dessie Dolan is hard to listen to on so commentary. He adds nothing to the experience and runs through the same banal cliche time after time.

He said for Kerry's second goal that he'd be delighted with that finish. A yard out and keeper lying on the ground.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on August 21, 2017, 09:14:31 PM
Expect to see him in about 20 years time still commentating on games on RTE .Once you get in the door you are there for life no matter how inept you are.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on August 21, 2017, 11:17:02 PM
Quote from: maigheo on August 21, 2017, 09:14:31 PM
Expect to see him in about 20 years time still commentating on games on RTE .Once you get in the door you are there for life no matter how inept you are.

Very much so
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 21, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.

Manager of Connacht champions 2017, so will be a few years til Kevin back on RTÉ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 21, 2017, 11:33:44 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 21, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.

Manager of Connacht champions 2017, so will be a few years til Kevin back on RTÉ.
Probably be free from October 2018
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2017, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 21, 2017, 11:33:44 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 21, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.

Manager of Connacht champions 2017, so will be a few years til Kevin back on RTÉ.
Probably be free from October 2018

Only in your dreams. You've quit the childish name-calling awfullly fast post July 9th..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on August 21, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
Yer slipping up childeen.
Took you 4 minutes to bark ;D
Too busy defending the craven apology to Andy pandy on stolen-sheep I suppose.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on August 22, 2017, 08:06:24 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.

Anyone else feel cooper is going down the same road? Find him hard to listen to as opposed to o se who I quite like.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 22, 2017, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 22, 2017, 08:06:24 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.

Anyone else feel cooper is going down the same road? Find him hard to listen to as opposed to o se who I quite like.

I'm the opposite, I find Cooper very good so far. Confident and makes some interesting points. O'se isn't as good as he was when he started. You always feel he's leaving a lot unsaid.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 22, 2017, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 22, 2017, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 22, 2017, 08:06:24 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 21, 2017, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2017, 09:03:40 PM
Agreed. Woeful. Seems a nice enough fella but not good at the commentary at all.

He is a harmless aul soul and seems like a good skin but you want someone that adds meat to the main commentator' s bones. I still think the best football wingman is Kevin McStay, hopefully the Rossies give him the boot.

Anyone else feel cooper is going down the same road? Find him hard to listen to as opposed to o se who I quite like.

I'm the opposite, I find Cooper very good so far. Confident and makes some interesting points. O'se isn't as good as he was when he started. You always feel he's leaving a lot unsaid.

Him kid glove 'interviewing' Fitzmaurice in e VT before the match Sunday was a cringefest. I'd have paid to see them send Brolly down and ask a few questions but getting his bestest mate to softball him meaningless questions was beyond pointless.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 27, 2017, 03:53:44 PM
My god Pat fairly hates Tyrone.....very biased pundit. Glad he got his complete sickener yesterday and hopes he get another one today!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 27, 2017, 04:02:06 PM
Martin fuckin Carney.
Whyyyyyyy.

Very much so ger
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on August 27, 2017, 04:38:41 PM
If Martin Carney didn't think the game was going to be like this he hasn't a clue
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on August 27, 2017, 04:41:47 PM
Quote from: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?
He is the worst I've ever heard and today he's worse than usual. He doesn't need to tell us the same thing ten times. We can see that Dublin are dominant and Tyrone are very poor. It's like he's taped himself and it's playing on repeat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on August 27, 2017, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on August 27, 2017, 04:41:47 PM
Quote from: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?
He is the worst I've ever heard and today he's worse than usual. He doesn't need to tell us the same thing ten times. We can see that Dublin are dominant and Tyrone are very poor. It's like he's taped himself and it's playing on repeat.

A f**king dose do he is. Best thing RTÉ could do is offer a red button option to mute him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:51:22 PM
Excellent analysis there by Brolly. When he concentrates on the game and not the other nonsense, he's really good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 27, 2017, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on August 27, 2017, 04:41:47 PM
Quote from: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?
He is the worst I've ever heard and today he's worse than usual. He doesn't need to tell us the same thing ten times. We can see that Dublin are dominant and Tyrone are very poor. It's like he's taped himself and it's playing on repeat.

Still not as bad as Dick Clerkin as co-commentator on SKY.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Carbery on August 27, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
The Sunday Game panel glossed over the Colm Cavanagh incident tonight with Brian McGuigan describing it as "irreverent"
It was a blatant kick to his opponent and a sending off offence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: punt kick on August 27, 2017, 10:19:54 PM
Quote from: Carbery on August 27, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
The Sunday Game panel glossed over the Colm Cavanagh incident tonight with Brian McGuigan describing it as "irreverent"
It was a blatant kick to his opponent and a sending off offence.

Agree scummy cowardly attack.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on August 27, 2017, 10:22:40 PM
McGuigan said much the same when donaghy grabbed the Galway full back by the throat.
Just to save Donaghy ,as he has Tyrone blood.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 27, 2017, 10:24:58 PM
Quote from: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?
I don't mind his analysis except that he talketh way too much, in excess. He would need to cut out 90% of his verbiage before my nerves could chill out. In regards to Martin Carney, the adage "less is more" never rang more true.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: cornetto on August 28, 2017, 01:05:25 AM
I didn't see the Sunday game tonight but read elsewhere they signed off with the song,

"TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE HARTE"

A coincidence or a bit of belly rubbing for mickey Harte for no interviews?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2017, 01:17:02 AM
Quote from: Carbery on August 27, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
The Sunday Game panel glossed over the Colm Cavanagh incident tonight with Brian McGuigan describing it as "irreverent"
It was a blatant kick to his opponent and a sending off offence.

While at the same time zooming in x1000 to see AOS standing on Donaghys toe as excuse for the puck in the mouth
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 28, 2017, 09:00:47 AM
McGuigan started the case for the defence of Harte stating a 'county board faction' and some people in Tyrone wanted him to go. His only defence was who would want to come in to replace Mickey Harte.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2017, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?

Are you taking the piss?
He might have knowledge but whenever he opens his mouth he certainly doesn't show it.
He certainly does not know the players. He gets their names wrong on an astoundingly regular basis. Actually a lot of the boys on RTE do.
There was a passage of play, maybe a Tyrone kickout (there were a lot of those) when Carney tried to make a point but stuttered, farted, spluttered and tripped over his words for about 7seconds and it ended up a mutter in the end. The man is absolutely dreadful. Plus the tone of his voice is nauseating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: doodaa on August 28, 2017, 09:10:52 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2017, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: Seany on August 27, 2017, 04:32:36 PM
I actually think Martin Carney is an excellent co commentator. Knows his stuff. Knows the players. Knows the game. What exactly are people looking for in a co commentator?

Are you taking the piss?
He might have knowledge but whenever he opens his mouth he certainly doesn't show it.
He certainly does not know the players. He gets their names wrong on an astoundingly regular basis. Actually a lot of the boys on RTE do.
There was a passage of play, maybe a Tyrone kickout (there were a lot of those) when Carney tried to make a point but stuttered, farted, spluttered and tripped over his words for about 7seconds and it ended up a mutter in the end. The man is absolutely dreadful. Plus the tone of his voice is nauseating.

Agreed. There are times ive contemplated watching a game in complete silence when he is commentating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2017, 09:27:14 AM
On last nights show It was clear that McGuigan tried to brush the Cavanagh Kung-fu under the carpet and move on quickly. And then thon big flower Whelan didn't want to be drawn on it either by more or less doing the same.
It makes no sense to have fellas in the studio commenting or 'analysing' these games if they have a connection to said county or the players. Get some fellas in there who will call it as it is without fear of consequence.
A lot of whats said in the RTE studios is just ball-tickling nonsense for old pros.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 28, 2017, 09:53:40 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2017, 09:27:14 AM
On last nights show It was clear that McGuigan tried to brush the Cavanagh Kung-fu under the carpet and move on quickly. And then thon big flower Whelan didn't want to be drawn on it either by more or less doing the same.
It makes no sense to have fellas in the studio commenting or 'analysing' these games if they have a connection to said county or the players. Get some fellas in there who will call it as it is without fear of consequence.
A lot of whats said in the RTE studios is just ball-tickling nonsense for old pros.

They were trying to say it was irrelevant because tyrone were beaten but surely if the incident was looked at again and it was rightly upgraded to a red card cavanagh would be looking at a suspension for at least the first round of next years championship. Therefore it certainly isn't irrelevant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 28, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on August 28, 2017, 09:27:14 AM
On last nights show It was clear that McGuigan tried to brush the Cavanagh Kung-fu under the carpet and move on quickly. And then thon big flower Whelan didn't want to be drawn on it either by more or less doing the same.
It makes no sense to have fellas in the studio commenting or 'analysing' these games if they have a connection to said county or the players. Get some fellas in there who will call it as it is without fear of consequence.
A lot of whats said in the RTE studios is just ball-tickling nonsense for old pros.

Gutless is the word to describe those fellas. Cavanaghs act was a straight red, end of discussion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 28, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
All 3 pundits bottled it last night re: the karate kid. I expected McGuigan to defend him but not the others.

As for Harte staying as long as he wants, he should decide etc. That's nonsense. If the same logic applied, David Moyes would still be at Man U.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on August 28, 2017, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 28, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
All 3 pundits bottled it last night re: the karate kid. I expected McGuigan to defend him but not the others.

As for Harte staying as long as he wants, he should decide etc. That's nonsense. If the same logic applied, David Moyes would still be at Man U.

Arsene Wenger is a better example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 10:37:53 AM
I didn't see the evening show but the pundits on the afternoon show most definitely commented on the Cavanagh assault.

At the time I thought it was a late, reckless, dangerous challenge and well inside the red card territory but I don't agree with attributing intent or deliberation to Colm C's action, as Colm O'Rourke did.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fat Angry Motorist on August 28, 2017, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 10:37:53 AM
I didn't see the evening show but the pundits on the afternoon show most definitely commented on the Cavanagh assault.

At the time I thought it was a late, reckless, dangerous challenge and well inside the red card territory but I don't agree with attributing intent or deliberation to Colm C's action, as Colm O'Rourke did.

Seriously?  You don't accidentally go in late with the studs showing, stomach high.  Shocking incident, deliberate attempt to injure the Dub player well deserving of a ban.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
 Then you're a mind reader.
Afaia, Colm Cavanagh is a tough combative player but never a scúmbag, so he has my benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 28, 2017, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Then you're a mind reader.
Afaia, Colm Cavanagh is a tough combative player but never a scúmbag, so he has my benefit of the doubt.

You need to look again at the tackle and the level of frustration being experienced by a player not just with the way the game was going but with the failure of his colleagues to play with an equal level of intensity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 28, 2017, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Then you're a mind reader.
Afaia, Colm Cavanagh is a tough combative player but never a scúmbag, so he has my benefit of the doubt.

Whether CC is normally a dirty player or not, it's a red card all day long.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 28, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Then you're a mind reader.
Afaia, Colm Cavanagh is a tough combative player but never a scúmbag, so he has my benefit of the doubt.

It was about as blatant a red card as you're likely to see. The 'he's not that type of player' is no defence against the incident.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on August 28, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
Decent bit of analysis on TSG last night actually, fair enough it wasn't rocket science but it's better than just whinging about how rubbish games are
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on August 28, 2017, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 28, 2017, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Then you're a mind reader.
Afaia, Colm Cavanagh is a tough combative player but never a scúmbag, so he has my benefit of the doubt.

It was about as blatant a red card as you're likely to see. The 'he's not that type of player' is no defence against the incident.

Indeed if that's not red with a hefty ban to boot we might as well do away with red cards. A disgraceful assault and fully intentional in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 29, 2017, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 28, 2017, 12:53:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 12:21:54 PM
Then you're a mind reader.
Afaia, Colm Cavanagh is a tough combative player but never a scúmbag, so he has my benefit of the doubt.

Whether CC is normally a dirty player or not, it's a red card all day long.
I said it was a red card challenge  .......  all day long.
A good player can make a very bad challenge, without premeditation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on August 29, 2017, 07:13:23 AM
Games over lads. Colm not that type of player anyways.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 29, 2017, 07:26:13 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 28, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
All 3 pundits bottled it last night re: the karate kid. I expected McGuigan to defend him but not the others.

As for Harte staying as long as he wants, he should decide etc. That's nonsense. If the same logic applied, David Moyes would still be at Man U.

How's Brendan Donaghy ban going?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cllr Willie Power on August 30, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
Laughing at all the Dubs going mad about the Colm Cavanagh tackle - there wasn't a word when Johnny Cooper did an even worse one back in 2015....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on August 30, 2017, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on August 30, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
Laughing at all the Dubs going mad about the Colm Cavanagh tackle - there wasn't a word when Johnny Cooper did an even worse one back in 2015....

There was,... fom tyrone fans. Which shows how hypocritical they are because these same fans can now try and deflect attention away from the thuggish challenge by cavanagh which was undoubtedly worthy of a red card.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Franko on August 30, 2017, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 30, 2017, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on August 30, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
Laughing at all the Dubs going mad about the Colm Cavanagh tackle - there wasn't a word when Johnny Cooper did an even worse one back in 2015....

There was,... fom tyrone fans. Which shows how hypocritical they are because these same fans can now try and deflect attention away from the thuggish challenge by cavanagh which was undoubtedly worthy of a red card.

Ah I wouldn't pay these sort of fans much heed.  These are the sort of brainwashed fools that defended the likes of Philip Jordan and Tiernan McCann.  Give the opinions of these people the consideration they deserve... and ignore them.  Proper Tyrone football people know the craic... ie. the people who had been to a football match prior to 2003.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on September 05, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Franko on August 30, 2017, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 30, 2017, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on August 30, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
Laughing at all the Dubs going mad about the Colm Cavanagh tackle - there wasn't a word when Johnny Cooper did an even worse one back in 2015....

There was,... fom tyrone fans. Which shows how hypocritical they are because these same fans can now try and deflect attention away from the thuggish challenge by cavanagh which was undoubtedly worthy of a red card.

Ah I wouldn't pay these sort of fans much heed.  These are the sort of brainwashed fools that defended the likes of Philip Jordan and Tiernan McCann.  Give the opinions of these people the consideration they deserve... and ignore them.  Proper Tyrone football people know the craic... ie. the people who had been to a football match prior to 2003.

Eh?  What did Jordan do?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Border on September 10, 2017, 10:17:17 PM
Sean Cavanagh on Sunday Game tonight. Start of a career of a new pundit. Will he have an agenda like most of the others? Let's wait and see
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 10, 2017, 10:32:18 PM
Hope they don't get him fixated on triangles like poor aul Cake Curran who never was brought back after his stunning discovery!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Border on September 10, 2017, 10:53:52 PM
Sean
Any comment on the kick to the stomach of Brian Fenton by your brother Colm, last week?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on September 10, 2017, 10:57:43 PM
Only a matter of time before Brolly is laughing and joking around with him once he becomes part of the brotherhood.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brick Tamlin on September 11, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
Just another dose to add to the roster of former player doses who wont get off fence or say anything for fear of offending others.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aristo 60 on September 11, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 10, 2017, 10:57:43 PM
Only a matter of time before Brolly is laughing and joking around with him once he becomes part of the brotherhood.

Nah - two Nordies on screen at once would be too much for the southern viewers never mind the Donnybrook decision makers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owen Brannigan on September 11, 2017, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on September 05, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: Franko on August 30, 2017, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 30, 2017, 06:50:42 AM
Quote from: Cllr Willie Power on August 30, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
Laughing at all the Dubs going mad about the Colm Cavanagh tackle - there wasn't a word when Johnny Cooper did an even worse one back in 2015....

There was,... fom tyrone fans. Which shows how hypocritical they are because these same fans can now try and deflect attention away from the thuggish challenge by cavanagh which was undoubtedly worthy of a red card.

Ah I wouldn't pay these sort of fans much heed.  These are the sort of brainwashed fools that defended the likes of Philip Jordan and Tiernan McCann.  Give the opinions of these people the consideration they deserve... and ignore them.  Proper Tyrone football people know the craic... ie. the people who had been to a football match prior to 2003.

Eh?  What did Jordan do?
(https://i.imgur.com/ID1pI5f.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on September 12, 2017, 09:36:26 PM
Is that photo meant to answer my question?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owen Brannigan on September 13, 2017, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on September 12, 2017, 09:36:26 PM
Is that photo meant to answer my question?

Yep, in part, it is just one example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on September 13, 2017, 03:53:34 PM
not a whole pile wrong with the Sunday game panel on Sunday past;

(https://img.rasset.ie/000e9d33-500.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on September 14, 2017, 06:53:56 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 13, 2017, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on September 12, 2017, 09:36:26 PM
Is that photo meant to answer my question?

Yep, in part, it is just one example.

Why not  answer in simple words? A still image tells me nothing!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on September 14, 2017, 07:30:18 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on September 12, 2017, 09:36:26 PM
Is that photo meant to answer my question?
He done well to get up from that. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 03:07:48 PM
Whoever plans these Sunday Game VTs must be snorting a mountain of cocaine.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.

Every year I pray he'll announce this is my last.

Please God he'll say it this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
The Leitrim man seems more interested in Diarmuid Connolly's vest than the match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2017, 04:12:38 PM
Pat sounded to be getting a bit hot under the collar.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 17, 2017, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.

Every year I pray he'll announce this is my last.

Please God he'll say it this year.

Why would he have a say on whether this is your last year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on September 17, 2017, 04:26:29 PM
Joe looks badly hungover the day
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stephenite on September 17, 2017, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: The Trap on September 17, 2017, 04:26:29 PM
Joe looks badly hungover the day

He does indeed!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on September 17, 2017, 05:46:31 PM
Was the gouge mentioned? Crucial moment in the game for me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on September 17, 2017, 05:54:25 PM
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on September 17, 2017, 05:46:31 PM
Was the gouge mentioned? Crucial moment in the game for me.

Was it a gouge? He photo is pretty damning but I thought he was pushing the head into the ground - not that that's ok
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: lenny on September 17, 2017, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.

Every year I pray he'll announce this is his last.

Please God he'll say it this year.

Why would he have a say on whether this is your last year?

:P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Maybe it was the above, the short captains speech, or that Dublin won yet again, but the whole presentation/celebration smelled of a Junior B county final win, and not the biggest day in Irish sport.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on September 17, 2017, 09:45:52 PM
highlights didn't even show the incident at end of the 1st half.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on September 17, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
Does anybody else find the RTE part of the Sunday Game from the winners hotel incredibly boring, Michael Lyster and Jim Galvin do anyhow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on September 17, 2017, 10:10:41 PM
I find the rte presentation  unimagitive with the rediculous man of the match comp which only ever goes to 1 team v poor stuff. Sky would do much better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Great to see McStay in studio. Talks alot of sense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on September 17, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
Great now we have to watch the Dub's wives stuffing their faces !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
Great to see McStay in studio. Talks alot of sense.

Hands off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 17, 2017, 10:28:09 PM
Great now we have to watch the Dub's wives stuffing their faces !

Sure a sparrow would eat more than those dolly birds.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ardtole on September 17, 2017, 10:37:13 PM
How have the Sunday game not mentioned the pages eye gouging incident before half time. Surely a straight red.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on September 17, 2017, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: ardtole on September 17, 2017, 10:37:13 PM
How have the Sunday game not mentioned the pages eye gouging incident before half time. Surely a straight red.

Eye gouge? O'Gara's have was over his mouth, not his eyes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on September 17, 2017, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: gallsman on September 17, 2017, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: ardtole on September 17, 2017, 10:37:13 PM
How have the Sunday game not mentioned the pages eye gouging incident before half time. Surely a straight red.

Eye gouge? O'Gara's have was over his mouth, not his eyes.

https://twitter.com/GAABants/status/909438548755058688
It still looks a gouge to me, even if sligthly below the eye it is still a red for me, no need to have his hand anywhere near boyles face. Mayo should have kicked up a bigger fuss, they are usually good at highlighting these things.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 11:06:39 PM
TOTY was a Dublin Mayo select more or less. And Brolly is twisted.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 11:07:42 PM
Quote from: ardtole on September 17, 2017, 10:37:13 PM
How have the Sunday game not mentioned the pages eye gouging incident before half time. Surely a straight red.

No mention of GPS unit being thrown at Rock at end.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 11:11:38 PM
Colm and Joe talking some proper sense here. Finally.

Whelan looking nervous as fúck.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 17, 2017, 11:14:59 PM
Joe Brolly is the definition of toe curling TV. Simply awful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on September 17, 2017, 11:21:53 PM
There is very little love lost between the panelist. No chemistry between them and undercuts in the limited banter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 11:11:38 PM
Colm and Joe talking some proper sense here. Finally.

Whelan looking nervous as fúck.
Whelan made fair points also. They've always had a much greater population. Nobody gave a shite about it when Kerry were coasting to Sam etc. Now, the Dubs put the work in to better themselves, it's unfair - they need split.

Whelan made zero fair points. So because something was unfair it should remain unfair? Nonsense. He also tried to downplay playing nearly ever game at home being an advantage for the same reason.

Colm was cute or soft enough not to mention the money being a big reason why the population and other advantages are starting to tell so severely now.. a lot easier to make great structures when you're flush with cash, a lot harder to do it with volunteers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on September 17, 2017, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 11:11:38 PM
Colm and Joe talking some proper sense here. Finally.

Whelan looking nervous as fúck.
Whelan made fair points also. They've always had a much greater population. Nobody gave a shite about it when Kerry were coasting to Sam etc. Now, the Dubs put the work in to better themselves, it's unfair - they need split.

Don't forget the money issue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on September 17, 2017, 11:30:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 17, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 17, 2017, 11:11:38 PM
Colm and Joe talking some proper sense here. Finally.

Whelan looking nervous as fúck.
Whelan made fair points also. They've always had a much greater population. Nobody gave a shite about it when Kerry were coasting to Sam etc. Now, the Dubs put the work in to better themselves, it's unfair - they need split.
Very strange the the financial doping was not discussed .

Whelan made zero fair points. So because something was unfair it should remain unfair? Nonsense. He also tried to downplay playing nearly ever game at home being an advantage for the same reason.

Colm was cute or soft enough not to mention the money being a big reason why the population and other advantages are starting to tell so severely now.. a lot easier to make great structures when you're flush with cash, a lot harder to do it with volunteers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: randomusername on September 18, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!

Isn't Joe mad into his cycling? Think he keeps pretty fit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!

To who? Dublin? the other 31 counties wouldn't be looking at them as sore losers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Thy Kingdom Come on September 18, 2017, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!

To who? Dublin? the other 31 counties wouldn't be looking at them as sore losers.

But do you not realise it's Dublin that matters (and nobody else). Croke Park is their home Pitch. The majority of the National media is in Dublin. Multinational, National and semi-state companies and organisations are lining up to be associated with Dublin. Any movement to say anything against the saviour of football will be met with hostility!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 18, 2017, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!

To who? Dublin? the other 31 counties wouldn't be looking at them as sore losers.

But do you not realise it's Dublin that matters (and nobody else). Croke Park is their home Pitch. The majority of the National media is in Dublin. Multinational, National and semi-state companies and organisations are lining up to be associated with Dublin. Any movement to say anything against the saviour of football will be met with hostility!

It's the one battle Dublin are out-numbered on, though. The rest of the CBs really need to band together and make the sport better for everyone because it's fully within their power to reign Dublin in if they find the balls to oppose the financial doping.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 18, 2017, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 12:18:37 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 18, 2017, 12:15:22 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 12:06:28 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!

To who? Dublin? the other 31 counties wouldn't be looking at them as sore losers.

But do you not realise it's Dublin that matters (and nobody else). Croke Park is their home Pitch. The majority of the National media is in Dublin. Multinational, National and semi-state companies and organisations are lining up to be associated with Dublin. Any movement to say anything against the saviour of football will be met with hostility!

It's the one battle Dublin are out-numbered on, though. The rest of the CBs really need to band together and make the sport better for everyone because it's fully within their power to reign Dublin in if they find the balls to oppose the financial doping.

Sure they are the worst deniers of the lot! They'll get thrown their 20 pieces of silver and crawl back to their corner happy!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2017, 12:32:58 AM
31 v 1 at Central Council and Congress can effect any changes they've a will to for the good of the biggest sport in Ireland.
Shame on the 31 if they don't.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: stew on September 18, 2017, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: randomusername on September 18, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on September 17, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
No mention of financial Doping alright. It's as if the Sunday Game Panellists are afraid to mention it or there is a censorship clause with RTE!

O'Rourke trying not to sound bad has came up with the more Players in Dublin need to play inter-county line!

Home venue was shot down by Whelan when mentioned by McStay.

I noticed my to fellow Kerrymen said very little. There was a few looks and glances.

They know the score that if they mention the advantages they'll look like sore losers. In fact anyone who mentions advantages of Dublin look like sore losers.

Brolly physically looks as if he is struggling with his one kidney. And he needs a hairbrush!

Isn't Joe mad into his cycling? Think he keeps pretty fit

Thon young wan he left the wife and kids for, she would be keeping him in good order as well hi!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on September 18, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Maybe it was the above, the short captains speech, or that Dublin won yet again, but the whole presentation/celebration smelled of a Junior B county final win, and not the biggest day in Irish sport.
Was at the game & fair play to Dublin they're a great team to come through in so many tight finals. But the speech from Cluxton was depressing - the most soulless, passionless, uninspiring words from an AI winning captain. He looked like he was reading it off a sheet & wouldn't have looked out of place at a funeral
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on September 18, 2017, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: sambostar on September 18, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Maybe it was the above, the short captains speech, or that Dublin won yet again, but the whole presentation/celebration smelled of a Junior B county final win, and not the biggest day in Irish sport.
Was at the game & fair play to Dublin they're a great team to come through in so many tight finals. But the speech from Cluxton was depressing - the most soulless, passionless, uninspiring words from an AI winning captain. He looked like he was reading it off a sheet & wouldn't have looked out of place at a funeral

I remember saying to a couple of Dublin fans after the Tyrone game that Dublin where boring - they laughed at me and said it was sour grapes. But what I was getting at wasn't their ability but the whole package - I'm glad Colm O'Rourke said it last night on the Sunday Game - makes me feel a little better!!! :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
I've seen their public "bash" tonight referred to as a "homecoming"
Irony of ironies.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on September 18, 2017, 01:01:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 18, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
I've seen their public "bash" tonight referred to as a "homecoming"
Irony of ironies.

In all seriousness where do you propose the all ireland final bes moved to??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 18, 2017, 01:22:24 PM
I didn't propose it be moved anywhere, I'm just commenting on the daftness of calling something a homecoming when they never left home in the first place.
It could be called a celebration or reception or the like.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: waterfordlad on September 18, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
Anyone else find it strange that they didn't review any of the controversial decisions during the game? No mention of the O'Gara hand in face incident at all. Normally they love a bit of controversy but last night they were more interested in talking over each other.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 18, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: sambostar on September 18, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Maybe it was the above, the short captains speech, or that Dublin won yet again, but the whole presentation/celebration smelled of a Junior B county final win, and not the biggest day in Irish sport.
Was at the game & fair play to Dublin they're a great team to come through in so many tight finals. But the speech from Cluxton was depressing - the most soulless, passionless, uninspiring words from an AI winning captain. He looked like he was reading it off a sheet & wouldn't have looked out of place at a funeral

Gavin and Cluxton being interviewed together didn't exactly make for riveting viewing. No emotion. Nothing of interest to say. That said I'm sure they don't give a flying one once they win.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beantown on September 18, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.

Every year I pray he'll announce this is my last.

Please God he'll say it this year.

Was my imagination or did Canning say at one stage that Mayo were coming forward but met by sea of Yellow Jerseys???  I could have sworn he said it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
He did. I can't stand that lad. Only for I was in the In-Laws, I'd have turned onto Sky...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on September 18, 2017, 04:29:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2017, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on August 06, 2017, 10:34:50 PM
I wonder is Mayo watching. Only team that has put it up to Dublin the last few years but they're not in the top 3.

Obviously not. Who would have them in the top 3 presently?

Fact remains they are the only team that can go toe to toe with dublin. People don't learn.
Also, that isn't a fact. Last year, they went toe to to toe with Dublin and eventually lost.
That in no way equates to them being the only team who can go toe to toe with Dublin this year. Christ, if sport was that simple....

Haha. I'll thank you not to patronise me in future.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 18, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
He did. I can't stand that lad. Only for I was in the In-Laws, I'd have turned onto Sky...
Having Dessie on with him only made it worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 18, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
He did. I can't stand that lad. Only for I was in the In-Laws, I'd have turned onto Sky...
Having Dessie on with him only made it worse.

Dessie who said within 10 minutes that starting O'Gara was a great decision as Mayo didn't know what to do with him, and then it wasn't working because Mayo were cleaning up in there.

Dessie's a nice lad, but he is not suited to that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on September 18, 2017, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on September 18, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
Anyone else find it strange that they didn't review any of the controversial decisions during the game? No mention of the O'Gara hand in face incident at all. Normally they love a bit of controversy but last night they were more interested in talking over each other.
The format of the show, where they're broadcasting from the victory banquet doesn't lend itself to negative analysis.

Remember back in 1997 when Ger Loughnane let fly at Eamon Cregan who was back in the studio over his analysis of the Clare-Tipp final? He ended up accusing Cregan of looking after his bank job in Tipperary. It was car crash viewing.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on September 18, 2017, 05:04:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
He did. I can't stand that lad. Only for I was in the In-Laws, I'd have turned onto Sky...
I noticed that. Hilarious. He also got his usual "big huge kick" line in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on September 18, 2017, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 18, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 18, 2017, 04:26:23 PM
He did. I can't stand that lad. Only for I was in the In-Laws, I'd have turned onto Sky...
Having Dessie on with him only made it worse.

Dessie who said within 10 minutes that starting O'Gara was a great decision as Mayo didn't know what to do with him, and then it wasn't working because Mayo were cleaning up in there.

Dessie's a nice lad, but he is not suited to that.
I was delighted Dessie was there because it meant that Martin Carney wasn't. That's all that mattered.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on September 18, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 18, 2017, 04:33:28 PM
Quote from: waterfordlad on September 18, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
Anyone else find it strange that they didn't review any of the controversial decisions during the game? No mention of the O'Gara hand in face incident at all. Normally they love a bit of controversy but last night they were more interested in talking over each other.
The format of the show, where they're broadcasting from the victory banquet doesn't lend itself to negative analysis.

Remember back in 1997 when Ger Loughnane let fly at Eamon Cregan who was back in the studio over his analysis of the Clare-Tipp final? He ended up accusing Cregan of looking after his bank job in Tipperary. It was car crash viewing.

Haha anyone got a link to that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on September 18, 2017, 05:12:51 PM
Far too many on the panel last night. If you are going to have 7 of them on at least give them a bit of media training into not shouting over each other! It just descended into an audio mess at several stages. Plus did anyone notice o'rourke/coopers mics going a bit echoey? Didnt help things either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 18, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Was not taking any notice but a friend said that Mayo came onto the field without any Music over the PA, Music was blaring out with the introduction of Dublin. Like the way a home team in Soccer does the same.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 18, 2017, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: Beantown on September 18, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.

Every year I pray he'll announce this is my last.

Please God he'll say it this year.

Was my imagination or did Canning say at one stage that Mayo were coming forward but met by sea of Yellow Jerseys???  I could have sworn he said it
He also mentioned at one time that it was 3 decades since Mayo won their last AI. The Dublin bias is a disgrace   Reminds me of 2002 semi final v Armagh, Marty's opening words as ball is thrown in ' and Dublin are 70 minutes away from an All Ireland final
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 18, 2017, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 18, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: sambostar on September 18, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Maybe it was the above, the short captains speech, or that Dublin won yet again, but the whole presentation/celebration smelled of a Junior B county final win, and not the biggest day in Irish sport.
Was at the game & fair play to Dublin they're a great team to come through in so many tight finals. But the speech from Cluxton was depressing - the most soulless, passionless, uninspiring words from an AI winning captain. He looked like he was reading it off a sheet & wouldn't have looked out of place at a funeral

Gavin and Cluxton being interviewed together didn't exactly make for riveting viewing. No emotion. Nothing of interest to say. That said I'm sure they don't give a flying one once they win.

People bemoan the loss of the characters and personalities in snooker, tennis etc. Now GAA players are the same. Robotic drones churning out the same old shite.

Whatever happened to the AI final MOTM cracking out a song at the team function on TSG? I recall Mickey Linden in 91 or 94 singing and Brolly in 93. The most we got last night was GAA president telling us all how great the c'ship is and will be with the Super 8, and Jack McCaffrey and his cronies acting like a bunch of childer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on September 18, 2017, 09:26:57 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 18, 2017, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 18, 2017, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: sambostar on September 18, 2017, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 08:41:14 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Maybe it was the above, the short captains speech, or that Dublin won yet again, but the whole presentation/celebration smelled of a Junior B county final win, and not the biggest day in Irish sport.
Was at the game & fair play to Dublin they're a great team to come through in so many tight finals. But the speech from Cluxton was depressing - the most soulless, passionless, uninspiring words from an AI winning captain. He looked like he was reading it off a sheet & wouldn't have looked out of place at a funeral

Gavin and Cluxton being interviewed together didn't exactly make for riveting viewing. No emotion. Nothing of interest to say. That said I'm sure they don't give a flying one once they win.

People bemoan the loss of the characters and personalities in snooker, tennis etc. Now GAA players are the same. Robotic drones churning out the same old shite.

Whatever happened to the AI final MOTM cracking out a song at the team function on TSG? I recall Mickey Linden in 91 or 94 singing and Brolly in 93. The most we got last night was GAA president telling us all how great the c'ship is and will be with the Super 8, and [Jack McCaffrey and his cronies acting like a bunch of childer

Cringe
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on September 18, 2017, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 18, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Was not taking any notice but a friend said that Mayo came onto the field without any Music over the PA, Music was blaring out with the introduction of Dublin. Like the way a home team in Soccer does the same.
Didnt notice the music for either, but did notice that Mayo came out early. As per page 1 of the program, Dublin were drawn to come out first, but Mayo seemed to jump the gun. So perhaps the guy on the music button wasn't ready
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Avondhu star on September 19, 2017, 06:57:00 AM
Quote from: Hound on September 18, 2017, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 18, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Was not taking any notice but a friend said that Mayo came onto the field without any Music over the PA, Music was blaring out with the introduction of Dublin. Like the way a home team in Soccer does the same.
Didnt notice the music for either, but did notice that Mayo came out early. As per page 1 of the program, Dublin were drawn to come out first, but Mayo seemed to jump the gun. So perhaps the guy on the music button wasn't ready

At least we had Imelda May trying to reinvent herself.
Whos idea was that? 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on September 19, 2017, 08:05:23 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 18, 2017, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: Beantown on September 18, 2017, 04:20:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 17, 2017, 03:10:55 PM
Ger Canning is doing his 33rd all ireland.
        
One way of looking at the history of the human group is that it has been a continuing struggle against the veneration of 'crap'.

Every year I pray he'll announce this is my last.

Please God he'll say it this year.

Was my imagination or did Canning say at one stage that Mayo were coming forward but met by sea of Yellow Jerseys???  I could have sworn he said it
He also mentioned at one time that it was 3 decades since Mayo won their last AI. The Dublin bias is a disgrace   Reminds me of 2002 semi final v Armagh, Marty's opening words as ball is thrown in ' and Dublin are 70 minutes away from an All Ireland final

This bit even made it into the highlights package, despite every man and his dog knowing it's longer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on September 19, 2017, 11:21:03 AM
TSG panel couldn't help themselves but get digs in at Tyrone. tyrone were not a feature of the weekends events yet every now and then they'd have a wee dig at them.

Tyrone really punch above their weight in the minds of THG panelists.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on September 19, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on September 19, 2017, 11:21:03 AM
TSG panel couldn't help themselves but get digs in at Tyrone. tyrone were not a feature of the weekends events yet every now and then they'd have a wee dig at them.

Tyrone really punch above their weight in the minds of THG panelists.

Tyrone have a lot of practice at punching .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 19, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on September 19, 2017, 11:21:03 AM
TSG panel couldn't help themselves but get digs in at Tyrone. tyrone were not a feature of the weekends events yet every now and then they'd have a wee dig at them.

Tyrone really punch above their weight in the minds of THG panelists.

Tyrone don't help themselves with their style of play and RTE boycott. They're easy pickings for ridicule.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: vallankumous on September 19, 2017, 03:58:23 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 19, 2017, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on September 19, 2017, 11:21:03 AM
TSG panel couldn't help themselves but get digs in at Tyrone. tyrone were not a feature of the weekends events yet every now and then they'd have a wee dig at them.

Tyrone really punch above their weight in the minds of THG panelists.

Tyrone have a lot of practice at punching .

You applying for a job on TSG?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 04:10:39 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on September 19, 2017, 11:21:03 AM
TSG panel couldn't help themselves but get digs in at Tyrone. tyrone were not a feature of the weekends events yet every now and then they'd have a wee dig at them.

Tyrone really punch above their weight in the minds of THG panelists.

Eh? They barely got mentioned. Hyper sensitivity at its best. Most of the country couldn't give a damn about anyone but themselves and the pundits are no different, whatever you may think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Boycey on September 19, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
Quote from: Hound on September 18, 2017, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 18, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
Nice of RTE to miss the teams coming out onto the field due to their yapping and then to talk over the trophy presentation too.

Was not taking any notice but a friend said that Mayo came onto the field without any Music over the PA, Music was blaring out with the introduction of Dublin. Like the way a home team in Soccer does the same.
Didnt notice the music for either, but did notice that Mayo came out early. As per page 1 of the program, Dublin were drawn to come out first, but Mayo seemed to jump the gun. So perhaps the guy on the music button wasn't ready

Mayo didn't come out early they were slightly late at 2.59 as opposed to 2.58 in the programme, Dublin were scheduled out at 2.56 but didn't appear til 3.02 so I say it was a Dublin plan to come out that late?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

I loved his line in the commentary about it being the two teams you want in the final, basically saying thank fûck no outsider made it. This being West-fecking-Meath's most decorated player..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on September 19, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
was it not the 2 teams most wanted to see based on a replay last year..........he's not breaking any moulds but in fairness he stated the obvious there, most neutrals once their own are gone want either a dublin mayo or dublin kerry final whether that suits you or not
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 19, 2017, 06:15:19 PM
I don't.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 19, 2017, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

He's pretty bad at the co-commentary gig alright. Michael Duignan in the hurling realises he's there to point out all the things that may not be apparent if you are sitting home watching the game. So he tells you from the throw in who's picking up who or what switches have been made. Dessie just describes what he's seen on the replay. Money for jam in fairness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 19, 2017, 07:17:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 19, 2017, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

He's pretty bad at the co-commentary gig alright. Michael Duignan in the hurling realises he's there to point out all the things that may not be apparent if you are sitting home watching the game. So he tells you from the throw in who's picking up who or what switches have been made. Dessie just describes what he's seen on the replay. Money for jam in fairness.
I think Duignan is excellent. It is as if muintir na h-h-iománaíochta demand much higher quality. Apart from Ger lock, obviously.  Ger lock told the media after Galway got the KK afterburners in 2007 that the match would win the all Ireland for Kilkenny. That was not Gerlock''s job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 19, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2017, 06:15:19 PM
I don't.

Nor me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 19, 2017, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 19, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
was it not the 2 teams most wanted to see based on a replay last year..........he's not breaking any moulds but in fairness he stated the obvious there, most neutrals once their own are gone want either a dublin mayo or dublin kerry final whether that suits you or not

AOF said the same. Everybody wants to see the 2 best teams in the final. Why?

Ok so Dublin and Mayo are the top two teams. Do I want to see them in the final year after year? I don't think so! It's disrespectful to 20-odd counties, more or less, we don't want you near the final cos you're all shite.

I'd have been happy watching Louth v Fermanagh in an AI final. The AI final is a great occasion no matter what teams are there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 19, 2017, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 19, 2017, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 19, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
was it not the 2 teams most wanted to see based on a replay last year..........he's not breaking any moulds but in fairness he stated the obvious there, most neutrals once their own are gone want either a dublin mayo or dublin kerry final whether that suits you or not

AOF said the same. Everybody wants to see the 2 best teams in the final. Why?

Ok so Dublin and Mayo are the top two teams. Do I want to see them in the final year after year? I don't think so! It's disrespectful to 20-odd counties, more or less, we don't want you near the final cos you're all shite.

I'd have been happy watching Louth v Fermanagh in an AI final. The AI final is a great occasion no matter what teams are there.

I'd be happy if I saw Dublin and/or Kerry in a final once every 5 or 6 years at most. I don't ever want to see Mayo again unless they win the fecking thing!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on September 19, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

I loved his line in the commentary about it being the two teams you want in the final, basically saying thank fûck no outsider made it. This being West-fecking-Meath's most decorated player..
He didn't basically say anything of the sort. You interpreted, or decided to interpret it that way.

My guess is that he thinks they're the two most entertaining teams in Ireland and would be most likely to provide the best entertainment. I agree with him.

Next complaint.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrhardyannual on September 19, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 19, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

I loved his line in the commentary about it being the two teams you want in the final, basically saying thank fûck no outsider made it. This being West-fecking-Meath's most decorated player..
He didn't basically say anything of the sort. You interpreted, or decided to interpret it that way.

My guess is that he thinks they're the two most entertaining teams in Ireland and would be most likely to provide the best entertainment. I agree with him.

Next complaint.
Viewing figures seem to bear that out with an average of 1.1million viewers watching throughout with a peak of 1.3 million for Dean Rocks final free. That's entertainment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 19, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

I loved his line in the commentary about it being the two teams you want in the final, basically saying thank fûck no outsider made it. This being West-fecking-Meath's most decorated player..
He didn't basically say anything of the sort. You interpreted, or decided to interpret it that way.

My guess is that he thinks they're the two most entertaining teams in Ireland and would be most likely to provide the best entertainment. I agree with him.

Next complaint.

Only on this forum could someone even attempt to pull you up on the blindingly obvious connotation of what Dessie said.

'Next'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gaffer on September 20, 2017, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 19, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 19, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

I loved his line in the commentary about it being the two teams you want in the final, basically saying thank fûck no outsider made it. This being West-fecking-Meath's most decorated player..
He didn't basically say anything of the sort. You interpreted, or decided to interpret it that way.

My guess is that he thinks they're the two most entertaining teams in Ireland and would be most likely to provide the best entertainment. I agree with him.

Next complaint.
Viewing figures seem to bear that out with an average of 1.1million viewers watching throughout with a peak of 1.3 million for Dean Rocks final free. That's entertainment.

1.3 milion of the population were watching the final free.

WTF were the other 4 million watching?  Wasnt Sky anyway
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 20, 2017, 11:21:09 PM
Quote from: mrhardyannual on September 19, 2017, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 19, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 19, 2017, 05:18:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 19, 2017, 04:59:10 PM
Just watched the game (RTE version). Jez, Dessie Dolan just says little or nothing. Feck me! He goes silent when there is something controversial happening.

I loved his line in the commentary about it being the two teams you want in the final, basically saying thank fûck no outsider made it. This being West-fecking-Meath's most decorated player..

He didn't basically say anything of the sort. You interpreted, or decided to interpret it that way.

My guess is that he thinks they're the two most entertaining teams in Ireland and would be most likely to provide the best entertainment. I agree with him.

Next complaint.
Viewing figures seem to bear that out with an average of 1.1million viewers watching throughout with a peak of 1.3 million for Dean Rocks final free. That's entertainment.
Sky viewing figures might hit 10,000 on average over the whole game, but if Croke Park standards are used (at least one millisecond viewing time whilst channel hopping), then the figures might hit 40,000  ;D
I wonder what the viewing figures were with all those Irish viewers who have a paid up sky subscription? I'd hazard a guess that the greater majority of them chose to watch the game on RTE and leave the  coverage by Sky TV3 incarnation well alone.

There is no length to the deception offered to disguise the utter banality of Sky's "extra"contribution to the state of the game, whether it be deliberate lies about  the called extra exposure, extra income, extra quality over and above what tv3 offered.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on January 28, 2018, 09:38:44 PM
Yet again hurling gets top billing on the highlights show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 28, 2018, 09:39:52 PM
It's about time there's were separate hurling and football shows. 90 mins isn't really enough time for one code, let alone the two.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 11:18:38 PM
I know getting cameras to games and short turnaround to do highlights thats fair enough but for league sunday to not even give a run down of scores nevermind a few comments on anything outside division one is really poor form but expected
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on January 28, 2018, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 11:18:38 PM
I know getting cameras to games and short turnaround to do highlights thats fair enough but for league sunday to not even give a run down of scores nevermind a few comments on anything outside division one is really poor form but expected

Total disgrace not giving a run down of results, showing tables and a bit of analysis. 24 other counties totally ignored.

You have to remember that League Sunday is all about who can get within an Arses roar of the ''Special Child'' Dublin. This is deemed to be anyone in Division One. The rest don't matter and they are not even trying to pretend they do anymore. Welcome to corporate Intercounty GAA!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on January 28, 2018, 11:42:16 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 11:18:38 PM
I know getting cameras to games and short turnaround to do highlights thats fair enough but for league sunday to not even give a run down of scores nevermind a few comments on anything outside division one is really poor form but expected

Shite from RTÉ. This is the way it's going with the "super 8s" though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on January 28, 2018, 11:45:51 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on January 28, 2018, 09:38:44 PM
Yet again hurling gets top billing on the highlights show.

Maximises viewing figures across the program length. If the football is on first, they'll lose about 70/80% of the viewership for the second half
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2018, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 28, 2018, 11:26:33 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 11:18:38 PM
I know getting cameras to games and short turnaround to do highlights thats fair enough but for league sunday to not even give a run down of scores nevermind a few comments on anything outside division one is really poor form but expected

Total disgrace not giving a run down of results, showing tables and a bit of analysis. 24 other counties totally ignored.

You have to remember that League Sunday is all about who can get within an Arses roar of the ''Special Child'' Dublin. This is deemed to be anyone in Division One. The rest don't matter and they are not even trying to pretend they do anymore. Welcome to corporate Intercounty GAA!
There's not enough time in the whole evening to show all that and definitely not when there's hurling.
In a fantasy world, RTE could go the whole hog and operate a sports channel. Not only could they do proper justice to a highlights package for both hurling/football/Ladies GAA/underage GAA, but also LOI and a host of other sports in Ireland that hardly ever get tv exposure.
The broadcast units can be outsourced. Just the one truck of equipment can easily provide top class video recording and editing facilities.
And a mini van of equipment would do alright for Div 2, 3 and 4  games.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on January 29, 2018, 12:17:44 AM
Linwoods Armagh TV have the full Armagh v Sligo match on Monday night at 9 on armaghgaa.net. Unfortunately I assume you will have to pay to view it. Still I am sure it wouldn't have proved too difficult to get short highlights for a free view programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on January 29, 2018, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on January 28, 2018, 09:38:44 PM
Yet again hurling gets top billing on the highlights show.

That's about right, watch the high speed hurling, then onto the more pedestrian football before taking yourself off to bed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on January 29, 2018, 10:00:32 AM
eir were advertising a highlights show on Wednesday, called league catchup or something. I'm not sure if it will just show highlights from the 4 games they showed, or will it be more extensive than that. TG4, I assume, have their highlights show tonight. RTE have really been missing a trick in not showing a highlights show in midweek, people have been crying out for it for several years now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on January 29, 2018, 10:40:44 AM
BBC NI have no bother showing highlights on a Saturday at 5pm of 3pm Irish league matches yet RTE can't do the same even though the highlights aren't aired until 6 hours after the final whistle of NFL matches. I don't imagine it to be very difficult or too costly to do so. It's pathetic coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on January 29, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.

Was looking forward to even a brief discussion about the results but to not even read through them beggars belief. A new low.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2018, 10:54:37 AM
there's a simple solution
football or hurling highlights programme on sunday night, other code on the Monday. Alternate it each week. include camogie and ladies football
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 29, 2018, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 29, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.

Was looking forward to even a brief discussion about the results but to not even read through them beggars belief. A new low.

Totally agree. #wedoexist
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on January 29, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 29, 2018, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 29, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.

Was looking forward to even a brief discussion about the results but to not even read through them beggars belief. A new low.

Totally agree. #wedoexist

It's bad form. There's no reason why they couldn't at least do a brief highlights package the way they so for the first few rounds of the qualifiers in June.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on January 29, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 29, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 29, 2018, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 29, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.

Was looking forward to even a brief discussion about the results but to not even read through them beggars belief. A new low.

Totally agree. #wedoexist

It's bad form. There's no reason why they couldn't at least do a brief highlights package the way they so for the first few rounds of the qualifiers in June.

At the very least they should read the results
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on January 29, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 29, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 29, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 29, 2018, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 29, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.

Was looking forward to even a brief discussion about the results but to not even read through them beggars belief. A new low.

Totally agree. #wedoexist

It's bad form. There's no reason why they couldn't at least do a brief highlights package the way they so for the first few rounds of the qualifiers in June.

At the very least they should read the results

It's shocking how Croke Park let RTE get away with the sub-standard levels of coverage they provide in terms of Gaelic Games.

The sooner the GAA tell RTE to feck off the better.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on January 29, 2018, 04:46:04 PM
Is this the same RTE whose celebrity pundit becries the elitism that is ruining our games?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on January 29, 2018, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: square_ball on January 29, 2018, 10:40:44 AM
BBC NI have no bother showing highlights on a Saturday at 5pm of 3pm Irish league matches yet RTE can't do the same even though the highlights aren't aired until 6 hours after the final whistle of NFL matches. I don't imagine it to be very difficult or too costly to do so. It's pathetic coverage.

TG 4 coverage decent enough this evening, covered Ros/meath, Tipp/Cork, Kerry/Donegal & Dub/Kildare in half an hour with no bullshit "analysis". No mention of D3/4 results though

Covered waterford/wex, Clare/tipp, dub/offaly & KK/Cork in the hurling. Also a few mins of Moy v an Gaeltachta
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2018, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 29, 2018, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 29, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:51:39 PM
The division 2 3 and 4 results were not mentioned. Disgraceful.

Was looking forward to even a brief discussion about the results but to not even read through them beggars belief. A new low.

Totally agree. #wedoexist

Donald Trump tweeted @tsg

Division 2 is for LOSERS.  Division 3 is weaker than Steve Bannon
Division 4 is sad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on February 04, 2018, 09:34:16 PM
Hurling on again first tonight, 2 weeks in a row now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 04, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
Serious footage from Newbridge.  ::)
Like one of the subs filmed it on his phone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 04, 2018, 10:47:57 PM
Serious footage from Newbridge.  ::)
Like one of the subs filmed it on his phone.

You'd think they'd have a few a spare cameras left over from the 6 nations.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 11:00:44 PM
No cameras at any Div2 game.  That's backwards from last year. Pathetic coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: FermGael on February 04, 2018, 11:01:14 PM
The coverage of divisions 2,3 and 4 is actually laughable .
A wee shout out to Meath and London.
You couldn't make it up.

And then people wonder why the counties outside the super 8 don't want a b competition.
The Sunday game tonight demonstrates exactly what sort of coverage and exposure that would receive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southtyronegael on February 04, 2018, 11:03:10 PM
piss poor programme. second week in a row they didnt even show the results of the 3 lower divisions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 11:08:41 PM
Time for someone in HQ to grow a pair and tell rte to either up their effort or they will look elsewhere. It really is laughable effort at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 04, 2018, 11:09:13 PM
Bizarre how they put up a graphic saying you can see all the results on gaa.ie. How hard would it be to put up the results on screen for 30 seconds?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on February 04, 2018, 11:13:43 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 04, 2018, 11:03:10 PM
piss poor programme. second week in a row they didnt even show the results of the 3 lower divisions.

A token mention of Meath, just cos Moyles was on the show.

Terrible show. Felt like the lads were depressed it was Sunday Night and they should be at home getting ready for work tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on February 04, 2018, 11:21:59 PM
Thank God for TG4 and Eirsport. RTE showing glimpses of what they would go back to if they had the broadcasting monopoly again. Lacklustre, lazy boring.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on February 04, 2018, 11:27:17 PM
I avoided results again today. Missed the show. Hardly mattered by the look of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 04, 2018, 11:50:47 PM
RTE don't have the 6 nations or premiership soccer anymore so why is their GAA coverage so half-assed?
Look at the attendances and general interest there is in the league.
It seems like a no-brainer to me that they would send out a few more cameras.
It would be easier to make the case that all games should be free-to-air if the RTE coverage wasn't so utterly abject.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 04, 2018, 11:56:15 PM
The only surprise is people here are surprised by RTÉ's shit. As fermgael said this is what would happen if a tiered championship was brought in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 04, 2018, 11:57:32 PM
Best comeback of the week and probably the year so far not even covered. Nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on February 05, 2018, 12:03:35 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 04, 2018, 11:50:47 PM
RTE don't have the 6 nations or premiership soccer anymore so why is their GAA coverage so half-assed?
Look at the attendances and general interest there is in the league.
It seems like a no-brainer to me that they would send out a few more cameras.
It would be easier to make the case that all games should be free-to-air if the RTE coverage wasn't so utterly abject.

Because RTE piggyback on other organisations cameras for the Premier League, the Six Nations, the Champions League. They don't have to worry about sending out a camera team for an outside broadcast.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 05, 2018, 12:16:51 AM
Yeah, but they have to pay for the rights.
Has the sports dept. budget been slashed?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on February 05, 2018, 12:23:16 AM
it is appropriate to criticise RTÉ. But also to criticise the GAA which takes no interest in coverage of this sort, but views rights as merely a matter of money.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 05, 2018, 12:30:55 AM
That's a fair point.
Take the money and run.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:32:25 AM
Wold the GAA save money on transaction fees if they got RTE to send the money directly to Dublin GAA?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2018, 07:59:33 AM
I thought Moyles was good
I'd have him back
the Gooch can go take a running jump.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 09:29:36 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2018, 12:23:16 AM
it is appropriate to criticise RTÉ. But also to criticise the GAA which takes no interest in coverage of this sort, but views rights as merely a matter of money.
The GAA is too complacent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 05, 2018, 11:14:24 AM
Quote from: southtyronegael on February 04, 2018, 11:03:10 PM
piss poor programme. second week in a row they didnt even show the results of the 3 lower divisions.

They ran a little graphic along the bottom at one stage saying "all results available on the rte website". Just as well I had my glasses on or I wouldn't have spotted it!

It's gone beyond a joke at this stage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.




Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on February 05, 2018, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2018, 07:59:33 AM
I thought Moyles was good
I'd have him back
the Gooch can go take a running jump.

He's be looking paid for the run and jump though!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 12:20:58 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.
Good man wobbler.
RTE's budgets have been slashed over the last few years.as well.
And RTE were supposed to anticipate how Ros would play.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on February 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Yeah, a graphic with results and tables of lower divisions cost a fortune! We are not asking them to use CGI. We are not asking them to show all Lower division game either. Just a few here and there. Acknowledge it exists. The national League is only 8 weekends!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match? 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 12:42:33 PM
The programme is a token gesture to tick a box.

RTE had camera's at one football game over the weekend and that was a pathetic attempt at coverage and they used Eir Sports & TG4 footage for the other games.

They have no problem finding a budget for showing the u20's Rugby on a friday night prime time spot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on February 05, 2018, 12:46:22 PM
Once again, what was the deal for the rugby U20 in relation to the internationals? Perhaps the IRFU required that both be covered?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:47:23 PM
.... and throughout the summer they've no problem finding budgets for championship matches across the country.

It's 2018 folks. The results of national league games are published in 2,000 online sources by 4pm the same evening. Putting up a graphic of the results at 10pm that night doesn't have the value it once had.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:50:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

Explain how tG4 do a better job with highlights than RTE. I must be asleep every week when TG4 covers action from a dozen games they sent OB units to
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on February 05, 2018, 12:51:28 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 05, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Yeah, a graphic with results and tables of lower divisions cost a fortune! We are not asking them to use CGI. We are not asking them to show all Lower division game either. Just a few here and there. Acknowledge it exists. The national League is only 8 weekends!


In every sport in the world, the higher levels of the game enjoys the media focus, while the lower echelons try to ride a little on those coat tails.

Plus other sports don't have feckin hurling looking a 50:50 (or better) share of the airtime.

——

But most of all, this. Throughout the national league, counties will play weakened teams and experimental tactics. Win lose or draw, 9 out of 10 results won't be celebrated or commiserated by those who played in the matches, including the actual fecking finals.

The GAA is responsible for the delivery of a substandard product; a competition that isn't worth celebrating. Asking RTE to then treat it with respect is more than a touch trite imho.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

I cant believe it but I agree with you. Wobblers post was such bullshit I had to read it again.

First off, last year the coverage was crap. Sent a camera to the ground and proceeded to show 2 mins of highlights. People rightly questioned this and requested our public broadcaster (who gets 100% of everyones TV licence fee and hefty government subsidies) on what they were doing.

This year is even worse. No camera at any Div 2 game. A guy with what looked like a phone recording the game in Newbridge. All games shown in any detail had already been shown live elsewhere. The coverage is now worse rather than better with only the top 4 games in the country covered. That is not good enough.

Prediction - there will be a camera at one Div 2 game next week, Cavan v Meath, because Eir Sport are covering it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:59:18 PM
Also - You must be blind if you dont think TG4 coverage is far better than RTE. They show minor games, club games, U21 games, Sigerson etc etc. How do they do that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 01:01:29 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:59:18 PM
Also - You must be blind if you dont think TG4 coverage is far better than RTE. They show minor games, club games, U21 games, Sigerson etc etc. How do they do that?

By covering 2-3 games maximum per day. That's how.

But that's really not what people are expecting from TSG.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

I cant believe it but I agree with you. Wobblers post was such bullshit I had to read it again.

First off, last year the coverage was crap. Sent a camera to the ground and proceeded to show 2 mins of highlights. People rightly questioned this and requested our public broadcaster (who gets 100% of everyones TV licence fee and hefty government subsidies) on what they were doing.

This year is even worse. No camera at any Div 2 game. A guy with what looked like a phone recording the game in Newbridge. All games shown in any detail had already been shown live elsewhere. The coverage is now worse rather than better with only the top 4 games in the country covered. That is not good enough.

Prediction - there will be a camera at one Div 2 game next week, Cavan v Meath, because Eir Sport are covering it!

Okay fair enough.

So, two things I need from you:

1. What level of coverage across the 30-odd National League games would actually be acceptable to you? Seriously, try to put a line in the sand here so I can get a better understanding of when it might become a suitable viewer experience.

3. Let me know how much extra per year you'd be willing to add to your licence fee for that privilege.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

I cant believe it but I agree with you. Wobblers post was such bullshit I had to read it again.

First off, last year the coverage was crap. Sent a camera to the ground and proceeded to show 2 mins of highlights. People rightly questioned this and requested our public broadcaster (who gets 100% of everyones TV licence fee and hefty government subsidies) on what they were doing.

This year is even worse. No camera at any Div 2 game. A guy with what looked like a phone recording the game in Newbridge. All games shown in any detail had already been shown live elsewhere. The coverage is now worse rather than better with only the top 4 games in the country covered. That is not good enough.

Prediction - there will be a camera at one Div 2 game next week, Cavan v Meath, because Eir Sport are covering it!

Okay fair enough.

So, two things I need from you:

1. What level of coverage across the 30-odd National League games would actually be acceptable to you? Seriously, try to put a line in the sand here so I can get a better understanding of when it might become a suitable viewer experience.

3. Let me know how much extra per year you'd be willing to add to your licence fee for that privilege.

Incredibly rich coming from the lad from Newry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 05, 2018, 01:18:37 PM
RTE coverage of the NFL is shite not sure why a debate is even open on this. Time someone else takes the NFL coverage off their hands.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on February 05, 2018, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 05, 2018, 01:18:37 PM
RTE coverage of the NFL is shite not sure why a debate is even open on this. Time someone else takes the NFL coverage off their hands.

RTÉ do not cover the NFL in general. They do have a highlights programme with some games using Eirsport or TG4 coverage. TG4 already have a highlights programme, how much more can you take it off RTÉ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

I cant believe it but I agree with you. Wobblers post was such bullshit I had to read it again.

First off, last year the coverage was crap. Sent a camera to the ground and proceeded to show 2 mins of highlights. People rightly questioned this and requested our public broadcaster (who gets 100% of everyones TV licence fee and hefty government subsidies) on what they were doing.

This year is even worse. No camera at any Div 2 game. A guy with what looked like a phone recording the game in Newbridge. All games shown in any detail had already been shown live elsewhere. The coverage is now worse rather than better with only the top 4 games in the country covered. That is not good enough.

Prediction - there will be a camera at one Div 2 game next week, Cavan v Meath, because Eir Sport are covering it!

Okay fair enough.

So, two things I need from you:

1. What level of coverage across the 30-odd National League games would actually be acceptable to you? Seriously, try to put a line in the sand here so I can get a better understanding of when it might become a suitable viewer experience.

3. Let me know how much extra per year you'd be willing to add to your licence fee for that privilege.

In my opinion...

1-All Div 1 and Div 2 games should be covered (8 games), with a minimum of 5 mins highlights of each followed by some decent analysis. Obviously big games get bigger time and analysis. See BBC Match of the Day. The lower league results should be shown, tables reviewed and some players discussed - I know this would mean pundits might actually have to earn what they are paid but you know thats my position on it. Maybe the odd game from Div 3 - top of the table clash etc might also be covered.

2- Nothing, they pay for the rights they get 100% of the tv licence and we have already seen that TG4 with much smaller budgets do much more and better jobs. Sure they even saved a fortune on Rugby rights this year so they should have loads of money to put into it. Get more efficient RTE - it is simple really. TG4 also stream quite a few games too so why dont they look at that too.

And if they dont the GAA should consider giving TG4 all league rights
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 05, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2018, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 05, 2018, 01:18:37 PM
RTE coverage of the NFL is shite not sure why a debate is even open on this. Time someone else takes the NFL coverage off their hands.

RTÉ do not cover the NFL in general. They do have a highlights programme with some games using Eirsport or TG4 coverage. TG4 already have a highlights programme, how much more can you take it off RTÉ?
The crappy mobile phone coverage they did of the Kildare,Monaghan game for a start.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

I cant believe it but I agree with you. Wobblers post was such bullshit I had to read it again.

First off, last year the coverage was crap. Sent a camera to the ground and proceeded to show 2 mins of highlights. People rightly questioned this and requested our public broadcaster (who gets 100% of everyones TV licence fee and hefty government subsidies) on what they were doing.

This year is even worse. No camera at any Div 2 game. A guy with what looked like a phone recording the game in Newbridge. All games shown in any detail had already been shown live elsewhere. The coverage is now worse rather than better with only the top 4 games in the country covered. That is not good enough.

Prediction - there will be a camera at one Div 2 game next week, Cavan v Meath, because Eir Sport are covering it!

Okay fair enough.

So, two things I need from you:

1. What level of coverage across the 30-odd National League games would actually be acceptable to you? Seriously, try to put a line in the sand here so I can get a better understanding of when it might become a suitable viewer experience.

3. Let me know how much extra per year you'd be willing to add to your licence fee for that privilege.

In my opinion...

1-All Div 1 and Div 2 games should be covered (8 games), with a minimum of 5 mins highlights of each followed by some decent analysis. Obviously big games get bigger time and analysis. See BBC Match of the Day. The lower league results should be shown, tables reviewed and some players discussed - I know this would mean pundits might actually have to earn what they are paid but you know thats my position on it. Maybe the odd game from Div 3 - top of the table clash etc might also be covered.

2- Nothing, they pay for the rights they get 100% of the tv licence and we have already seen that TG4 with much smaller budgets do much more and better jobs. Sure they even saved a fortune on Rugby rights this year so they should have loads of money to put into it. Get more efficient RTE - it is simple really. TG4 also stream quite a few games too so why dont they look at that too.

And if they dont the GAA should consider giving TG4 all league rights


So that's 6 Hurling matches and 8 football matches every week, 14 x 5 is 70 minutes, plus analysis 14 x 5 is 70 minutes plus 10 mins on lower leagues and we are 2.5 hours, plus ad breaks and general interest stories and extra analysis of key games, and you're into a 3 hour runtime. Or over twice as long as MOTD, for a much smaller audience, covering a competition that players don't even care to win.

Somewhere in among all that hopefully reality will step in. I won't even mention the ultimate cost of 14 OB units, additional editors and analysis.


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Between RTE and TG4, the number of live televised matches in Gaelic Football alone (or leave hurling to the side) is a multiple value of live rugby and soccer combined.

We are not the poor cousins you are making out.

Make the league more attractive and then Sky, tv3 and Eir might make a play for it. At the minute it gets the coverage it deserves.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 05, 2018, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 12:02:45 PM
f**k here we go again. RTE are shitbags because they won't sent OB units to all 30-odd national league matches. Even when they do, they're still shitbags as they didn't send the 3 camera men, sound man and editor needed to do the game justice. And even when they do that they're still shitbags as their 90 minute show focuses only on scores, and should be a 5 hour show with detailed analysis from properly interesting GAA pundits who have no bias. Oh and don't forget that we, the taxpayer should be able to press a button to swap hurling in front of football and vice versa.

Sky TV charge £35pm for such a service and even at that only make their money out of the English football game's international profile. But let's lose these facts in favour of giving off.

no harm to you but yis are all as f**king mad as batshit upstairs.

Aye but what about that oul fella from the west coast of Ireland who cant get to the games but has the right to see every single match?

What a combination of piss-poor posts.

Why can TG4 do a better job with highlights with far less money? It immediately ruins that little spiel.

I cant believe it but I agree with you. Wobblers post was such bullshit I had to read it again.

First off, last year the coverage was crap. Sent a camera to the ground and proceeded to show 2 mins of highlights. People rightly questioned this and requested our public broadcaster (who gets 100% of everyones TV licence fee and hefty government subsidies) on what they were doing.

This year is even worse. No camera at any Div 2 game. A guy with what looked like a phone recording the game in Newbridge. All games shown in any detail had already been shown live elsewhere. The coverage is now worse rather than better with only the top 4 games in the country covered. That is not good enough.

Prediction - there will be a camera at one Div 2 game next week, Cavan v Meath, because Eir Sport are covering it!

Okay fair enough.

So, two things I need from you:

1. What level of coverage across the 30-odd National League games would actually be acceptable to you? Seriously, try to put a line in the sand here so I can get a better understanding of when it might become a suitable viewer experience.

3. Let me know how much extra per year you'd be willing to add to your licence fee for that privilege.

In my opinion...

1-All Div 1 and Div 2 games should be covered (8 games), with a minimum of 5 mins highlights of each followed by some decent analysis. Obviously big games get bigger time and analysis. See BBC Match of the Day. The lower league results should be shown, tables reviewed and some players discussed - I know this would mean pundits might actually have to earn what they are paid but you know thats my position on it. Maybe the odd game from Div 3 - top of the table clash etc might also be covered.

2- Nothing, they pay for the rights they get 100% of the tv licence and we have already seen that TG4 with much smaller budgets do much more and better jobs. Sure they even saved a fortune on Rugby rights this year so they should have loads of money to put into it. Get more efficient RTE - it is simple really. TG4 also stream quite a few games too so why dont they look at that too.

And if they dont the GAA should consider giving TG4 all league rights


So that's 6 Hurling matches and 8 football matches every week, 14 x 5 is 70 minutes, plus analysis 14 x 5 is 70 minutes plus 10 mins on lower leagues and we are 2.5 hours, plus ad breaks and general interest stories and extra analysis of key games, and you're into a 3 hour runtime. Or over twice as long as MOTD, for a much smaller audience, covering a competition that players don't even care to win.

Somewhere in among all that hopefully reality will step in. I won't even mention the ultimate cost of 14 OB units, additional editors and analysis.


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Between RTE and TG4, the number of live televised matches in Gaelic Football alone (or leave hurling to the side) is a multiple value of live rugby and soccer combined.

We are not the poor cousins you are making out.

Make the league more attractive and then Sky, tv3 and Eir might make a play for it. At the minute it gets the coverage it deserves.

There are two different sports. Match of the day shows 1 sport. No one is telling RTE to combine Hurling and Football into the one program, they made that decision. BTW - BBC even has a program for premier league and another for championship.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2018, 03:17:10 PM
The league games are more attractive and interesting than championship games that tend to be mostly blow outs or low risk contests. RTE coverage is poor for the championship Brolly and Patteen doing their usual set routine is well tiresome at this stage and i don't expect them to put much effort into the NFL when they are a station that are more focused on football across the water,Horse racing or Rugby.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 05, 2018, 04:53:27 PM
If BBC NI can show brief highlights of many of the irish league soccer games on their final score program within minutes of the games ending, surely RTE with a bigger budget and more time, can put together something half decent on a sunday evening (or monday evening)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2018, 04:56:15 PM
this is why counties fear splitting the All Ireland championships into the various tiers

all the focus will be on the top tier
it has already happened in hurling

I always thought the GAA was a communal sporting organisation - all clubs have the same standing - one vote to change things
the same at county level - teams treated equally, with every team in with a chance
however it is clear that there is more and more focus on the top few teams - to the detriment of the whole organisation
elitism will actually kill the spirit of the association
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: westbound on February 05, 2018, 04:53:27 PM
If BBC NI can show brief highlights of many of the irish league soccer games on their final score program within minutes of the games ending, surely RTE with a bigger budget and more time, can put together something half decent on a sunday evening (or monday evening)

As a rule, local soccer fans in NI feel their game is horribly under-represented in the media and that BBC NI's commitment to live GAA championship is something they should have parity with.

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BBC NI's Saturday coverage extends to one fixed camera at 5 grounds and then the grid of cameras at Windsor. The fixed camera nature of the regional ground coverage makes the end product (the actual football) look completely amateur.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 06:54:21 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2018, 03:17:10 PM
The league games are more attractive and interesting than championship games that tend to be mostly blow outs or low risk contests. RTE coverage is poor for the championship Brolly and Patteen doing their usual set routine is well tiresome at this stage and i don't expect them to put much effort into the NFL when they are a station that are more focused on football across the water,Horse racing or Rugby.
The league is more competitive but the championship generates the money.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
If you don't stop digging soon you're going to hit Australia.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 07:12:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
If you don't stop digging soon you're going to hit Australia.

Syferus, pointing out that Sunday game criticisers on this thread have highly unreasonable expectations from the programme, and that they suffer a detachment from reality in terms of the value and popularity of national league football, is not digging.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2018, 07:38:52 PM
There is a business community that can provide low budget HD quality video for D2 3 4 matches. There might be some half-time distractions though. And it would only be available on youporn.  So Eugene mcGee's uncle in Geashill would probably be out of the loop.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on February 05, 2018, 11:53:53 PM
Maith shibh TG4 anocht.
Good highlights of Tipp v Ros and also Down v Cork.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on February 06, 2018, 12:03:03 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2018, 11:53:53 PM
Maith shibh TG4 anocht.
Good highlights of Tipp v Ros and also Down v Cork.

No money wasted on "analysis" either, I wouldn't lose a second of sleep if they cut the entire TSG panel completely
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tippabu on February 06, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
Thank God for tg4, really wish rte done similar where they just showed highlights with a voice over never mind anyone in the studio, do an online podcast or something where they do analysis of the weekend
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on February 06, 2018, 10:42:21 AM
Yeah I agree. What analysis is worth listening to in February anyway? It's all stuff like... Ah sure its early days. Trying a few new players. They won't set up like that in the c'ship. Yawn!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 06, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
Thank God for tg4, really wish rte done similar where they just showed highlights with a voice over never mind anyone in the studio, do an online podcast or something where they do analysis of the weekend

Did anyone see Eir's thing last Wednesday? I only saw a bit of it, so I'm not sure what it covered, but it seemed good and lighthearted with the analysts not taking themselves too seriously. Anna Geary and Senan Connell are presenting it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on February 06, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
Quote from: tippabu on February 06, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
Thank God for tg4, really wish rte done similar where they just showed highlights with a voice over never mind anyone in the studio, do an online podcast or something where they do analysis of the weekend

Did anyone see Eir's thing last Wednesday? I only saw a bit of it, so I'm not sure what it covered, but it seemed good and lighthearted with the analysts not taking themselves too seriously. Anna Geary and Senan Connell are presenting it.

Didn't see that but Woolly used to do a decent show with BJP & Aaron Kernan when Setanta had the league
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:41:48 PM
God be good to you wobbler, you're fighting the brave fight but there is no point - I've had this conversation before, and it never seems to sink in with the members here.

I'm assuming that you're in the TV game, because you're spot on. And speaking myself as a veteran of literally hundreds of OBs, across NFl/NHL and champo, the rest of ye don't have a clue. Now, to be fair, you are all the consumers, not the producers, so you shouldn't have to have a clue. But if someone like wobbler is talking what is, fairly obviously, sense, perhaps you'd do him the favour of, oh...I don't know, maybe...listening?

But for the hard of hearing, here we go

RTE budgets across the board have been slashed, so, no, they can't send OB units out to every game in the country. In fact they don't even have OB units anymore, they were sold off in the early noughties to stave off a previous financial crisis, and they now have to rent off companies like TVM and Observe, like TG4, TV3 and Sky have to

It is the GAA who sell the rights to the National Leagues - they divide them into (roughly) Saturday night games, Sunday games and a couple of highlight packages. The GAA controls how many games you can televise within these packages. If you buy one of these packages that means other companies can't rock up and decide to do a game in a different county at the same time - that's what exclusive rights means.

RTE, because they only have highlight rights, must rely on the footage from Eir and TG4 - who are the main rights holders for this package. And since they don't have live rights, it would make no financial sense for them to send cameras to other grounds on the scale suggested here.

And by the way, even if there was a free for all on Saturday nights, do you know how many county grounds have floodlights that look actually good on TV? Or TV gantrys with facilities for two or more cameras? I'm out of the game full time now for 5 years, but back then, very few, which meant that your choice was limited, in the main to Div 1 counties.

I noticed a page or so back someone complaining that only one camera had been sent to a ground - worse, only 2 minutes of this footage was shown. This is because if you showed more than 2 mins of single camera footage at a time, you'd have the switchboard jammed with people complaining about motion sickness.

I also noticed someone making a comparison with the Premier League coverage. Lads, the next round of those rights is about to go under auction - expected price? 6 billion. That six billion is merely the price for rights themselves. Within the contract the Premier League specify exactly what type of production must go around the match coverage - this costs hundreds of millions on top of the upfront costs. You're not comparing apples and oranges, in fact you're not even comparing apples with sub atomic particles. Please, please, please stop comparing coverage of the NFL and NHL with the richest, most high profile national league in the world.

And what about, as was mentioned by Wobbler, all the post production needed back at base to service a highlights show? the army of editors, sub editors and assistant producers needed to produce a decent looking programme? Because judging from the comments here, they'd want to be Emmys-quality every night.

And then this "TG4 does it better" crap. Lads, TG4, very cannily, bid for a package of rights which include Sigerson/Fitzgibbon/juvenile competitions, which is cheap as chips, and no one, bar them,really wants. Because they have a stripped down model (which they obviously upgrade as they go through club and league competitions), we accept as viewers that it is ok to present from the sideline and have zero frills. We don't accept that from RTE, which means doing those kinds of competitions as loss leaders, makes no sense for them at all.

I have worked, in both a fulltime and a freelance capacity, for all the companies I have spoken about above. I am not a defender of RTE, but I know that they are manned by (or were, when I was doing the rounds) capable people who are passionate about what they do - as are TG4, TV3, Eir and Sky. They make a public facing product, so they can expect and, sometimes, deserve criticism. But in universally concentrating on the things that are patently beyond their control, you actually let them off the hook for the things that they could deserve a bit of stick for - editorial choices, scheduling choices, talent choices etc.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2018, 12:59:18 PM
The league is only of genuine interest to hardcore GAA followers like us. Aside from the cost RTE has to cater to other groups.

RTE is very restricted by the economic reality. The DG said last year they could do a lot if the licence fee was doubled and she was savaged.

Someone mentiioned BBC NI's Irish League coverage. It's very amateur looking even if the BBC jazz it up. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on February 06, 2018, 01:02:55 PM
All I want is Brolly to have a thirty second slot at the end of the highlights show where he reads out the Division 3 & 4 scores, just to prove that he's not elitist.

How many cameras would that require?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Okay the lights could have been crap at Omagh but the rest of the comparison stands.
Eirsport's production costs are puny compared to Sky.
I do know the difference between capturing the sound of a crowd like Sky can manage  to great expense  and what Eirsport  can manage.
As you seemed to have missed my point  by a country mile I will repeat it.
My point countering Wobbler was that we do not expect a production like Sky manages to do.
The difference in costs between a Sky production and what Eirsport managed in Omagh is enormous.
We don't expect a Sky production for  the league 1 games  never mind for lower league game.
GAA fans would be quite content with the standard TG4 can manage.
And if a tiny populated country like Iceland  can manage to broadcast 140 live games from one sporting code with proper HD highlights from all the other games,  I think that's evidence enough that it's viable to do in Ireland.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on February 06, 2018, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 06, 2018, 10:42:21 AM
Yeah I agree. What analysis is worth listening to in February anyway? It's all stuff like... Ah sure its early days. Trying a few new players. They won't set up like that in the c'ship. Yawn!
The best one was after the highlights of Limerick beating Offaly by 17 points, Lyster said that it might not be a bad thing for Offaly that expectations were dampened after the win over Dublin and Eddie agreed with him.

Indeed lads, it was vital after nearly 20 years of despair that they nipped that bit of optimism in the bud.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 06, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2018, 12:59:18 PM
The league is only of genuine interest to hardcore GAA followers like us. Aside from the cost RTE has to cater to other groups.

RTE is very restricted by the economic reality. The DG said last year they could do a lot if the licence fee was doubled and she was savaged.

Someone mentiioned BBC NI's Irish League coverage. It's very amateur looking even if the BBC jazz it up.

Of course it's very amateur looking.
BUT ask any of the teams in divisions 2/3/4 would they prefer the hghlights shown on last sunday night from their games or an  amateur looking highlights package similar to BBC NI's league coverage.

I don't think anybody in their right mind is saying that EVERY league game down to the last game in Div 4 should be covered with the quality of an all ireland final. BUT a little bit of recognition that these teams even exist wouldn't go astray.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnneycool on February 06, 2018, 02:11:07 PM
Quote from: westbound on February 06, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 06, 2018, 12:59:18 PM
The league is only of genuine interest to hardcore GAA followers like us. Aside from the cost RTE has to cater to other groups.

RTE is very restricted by the economic reality. The DG said last year they could do a lot if the licence fee was doubled and she was savaged.

Someone mentiioned BBC NI's Irish League coverage. It's very amateur looking even if the BBC jazz it up.

Of course it's very amateur looking.
BUT ask any of the teams in divisions 2/3/4 would they prefer the hghlights shown on last sunday night from their games or an  amateur looking highlights package similar to BBC NI's league coverage.

I don't think anybody in their right mind is saying that EVERY league game down to the last game in Div 4 should be covered with the quality of an all ireland final. BUT a little bit of recognition that these teams even exist wouldn't go astray.

You gotta remember that for the last two weekends the NHL Div1 A and B was also on and there's even more burden for those 6 games to be covered as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.

You're essentially describing what GAA Go should always have been and not simply a crass dump of streams from Eir, RTÉ and Sky. I'm amazed that in their thirst for money the GAA haven't sought to expand their GAA Go service to their biggest potential market, Ireland, in such a manner.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:25:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.

You're essentially describing what GAA Go should always have been and not simply a crass dump of streams from Eir, RTÉ and Sky. I'm amazed that in their thirst for money the GAA haven't sought to expand their GAA Go service to their biggest potential market, Ireland, in such a manner.


I'm thinking of a low tech version of Gamepass.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.

Or add the local radio commentary to the video...that shouldn't be too hard to time it right?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2018, 02:50:43 PM
I think.the television model is getting weaker as people move online.  Lots of kids don't watch any TV. 
There are big question marks over the long term future of RTÉ.
Some kind of online platform where resources can be put together might be the way forward. You could have a youtube channel for example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 02:51:36 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Okay the lights could have been crap at Omagh but the rest of the comparison stands.
Eirsport's production costs are puny compared to Sky.
I do know the difference between capturing the sound of a crowd like Sky can manage  to great expense  and what Eirsport  can manage.
As you seemed to have missed my point  by a country mile I will repeat it.
My point countering Wobbler was that we do not expect a production like Sky manages to do.
The difference in costs between a Sky production and what Eirsport managed in Omagh is enormous.
We don't expect a Sky production for  the league 1 games  never mind for lower league game.
GAA fans would be quite content with the standard TG4 can manage.
And if a tiny populated country like Iceland  can manage to broadcast 140 live games from one sporting code with proper HD highlights from all the other games,  I think that's evidence enough that it's viable to do in Ireland.

No your comparison doesn't stand - because you said Eir was much worse than Sky - and that TG4 was able to provide the same standard as Sky (as highlighted above)

TG4 use the same equipment, same technicians, same OB companies as Eir do - and as Sky does when they are televising events in this country - and I know that the Eir spec is the same (and sometimes more elaborate than the TG4) set up for all League games.

So if you think fans would be quite content with the TG4 league set up, be advised it is nearly exactly the same technical set up for Eir games in the league.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Okay the lights could have been crap at Omagh but the rest of the comparison stands.
Eirsport's production costs are puny compared to Sky.
I do know the difference between capturing the sound of a crowd like Sky can manage  to great expense  and what Eirsport  can manage.
As you seemed to have missed my point  by a country mile I will repeat it.
My point countering Wobbler was that we do not expect a production like Sky manages to do.
The difference in costs between a Sky production and what Eirsport managed in Omagh is enormous.
We don't expect a Sky production for  the league 1 games  never mind for lower league game.
GAA fans would be quite content with the standard TG4 can manage.
And if a tiny populated country like Iceland  can manage to broadcast 140 live games from one sporting code with proper HD highlights from all the other games,  I think that's evidence enough that it's viable to do in Ireland.

And by the way, there is no great difference in expense between Sky's audio set up and what Eir would have used - the difference is the crowd number. 8 thousand people make less sound than 20 thousand.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.

Or add the local radio commentary to the video...that shouldn't be too hard to time it right?

Guys if you think that you can get people to pay enough to support the expense of a streaming and archive infrastructure (with a pay wall) of what is essentially shoddy footage then you have a better knowledge of broadcast economics than I have. As for the radio commentary, again, if it is so easy, try it.

(Hint - it's not. Syncing between a radio signal and video signals coming from two different sources would be a nightmare - you could do it after the fact, but then you are throwing in editing costs and time, on top of your already expensive premise. and if you do that, you might as well edit the actual footage down, because one camera footage is essentially unwatchable over 70 minutes)

What could work is the GAA taking over and televising their own league and championship games onto their own channel on a subscription basis. I always thought that would make the most sense economically, and they could leverage the coverage of the smaller games onto that channel.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.

Or add the local radio commentary to the video...that shouldn't be too hard to time it right?

Guys if you think that you can get people to pay enough to support the expense of a streaming and archive infrastructure (with a pay wall) of what is essentially shoddy footage then you have a better knowledge of broadcast economics than I have. As for the radio commentary, again, if it is so easy, try it.

(Hint - it's not. Syncing between a radio signal and video signals coming from two different sources would be a nightmare - you could do it after the fact, but then you are throwing in editing costs and time, on top of your already expensive premise. and if you do that, you might as well edit the actual footage down, because one camera footage is essentially unwatchable over 70 minutes)

What could work is the GAA taking over and televising their own league and championship games onto their own channel on a subscription basis. I always thought that would make the most sense economically, and they could leverage the coverage of the smaller games onto that channel.

You're talking out of your arse a bit here. With scaleable cloud hosting you only pay for the bandwidth you use; if you assume it to be a small number then the cost is equally tiny. This all disregards the fact GAA GO already has the basic infrastructure to do all this in place already; it's a sunk cost at this stage beyond bandwidth.

Syncing a radio commentary to a video stream would be very easy, actually, and many sports services throughout the world already offer it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on February 06, 2018, 03:26:05 PM
What about Eugene McGee's mate up the mountain who wants to see Carlow V Laythrum?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
I think I asked this before, but there seems to be a trend now of amateur cameramen streaming games on behalf of clubs/counties onto their web pages. Armagh is one, I think I saw it in Waterford as well or somewhere like that. Obviously it's a single camera and it's low cost, but would it be worth the GAA launching an online service where all games are streamed, and stored online. You could charge a certain amount per year, and allow viewers download complete games at their convenience. There'd be amateur or no commentary, although to be fair I'd prefer Eddie Moroney to Ger Canning, and obviously expectation would have to be set (via the price point I suppose) as to the quality.

I'd still subscribe to a service that allowed me download and watch Offaly v Fermanagh last Sunday, as long as the fee wasn't exorbitant.  In these days of facebook live streams etc, surely the technology for this exists.

Or add the local radio commentary to the video...that shouldn't be too hard to time it right?

Guys if you think that you can get people to pay enough to support the expense of a streaming and archive infrastructure (with a pay wall) of what is essentially shoddy footage then you have a better knowledge of broadcast economics than I have. As for the radio commentary, again, if it is so easy, try it.

(Hint - it's not. Syncing between a radio signal and video signals coming from two different sources would be a nightmare - you could do it after the fact, but then you are throwing in editing costs and time, on top of your already expensive premise. and if you do that, you might as well edit the actual footage down, because one camera footage is essentially unwatchable over 70 minutes)

What could work is the GAA taking over and televising their own league and championship games onto their own channel on a subscription basis. I always thought that would make the most sense economically, and they could leverage the coverage of the smaller games onto that channel.

You're talking out of your arse a bit here. With scaleable cloud hosting you only pay for the bandwidth you use; if you assume it to be a small number then the cost is equally tiny. This all disregards the fact GAA GO already has the basic infrastructure to do all this in place already; it's a sunk cost at this stage beyond bandwidth.

Syncing a radio commentary to a video stream would be very easy, actually, and many sports services throughout the world already offer it.

Well I currently only have 20 years broadcast media experience, 15 years of which was in sports broadcasting, including directing hundreds of the outside broadcasts we're actually talking about, as well as working on one particular venture which involved the streaming of three American high school football games to an encrypted site from Irish stadiums, plus a number of streamed specials from other venues.

Why are you assuming that it is a small number? AZ was talking about a hosting depository for club games. How many club games are we talking about each week? How long do we keep them up for so people can access them? Do we have an archive function so that streams from further back in the championship can be accessed? Or is it live only (meaning that really the only people who would pay for these specific games are at the game at the time)? Bearing in mind we are only putting out at 2MB our so, our storage might not be that bad - but you can't tell really can you? If it was doable, you would think someone would have done it by now?

As for GAA Go, they have the infrastructure to take a TV channel feed via fibre or satellite and to up load it. That is very different from taking multiple internet streams from grounds (by the way, good luck sourcing strong enough internet to do it from anywhere bar the Aviva or Croke Park) and then putting them back up on their site, without severe technical problems. People won't pay for something they can't rely on.

But then again, maybe, you're right. Maybe I'm speaking out of my arse - you certainly seem to be an expert on that subject.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Plus give me some examples of the sports services who are syncing live radio comms with live video pics (rather than making a commentary from the video available for radio). I'd like to have a look at that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Plus give me some examples of the sports services who are syncing live radio comms with live video pics (rather than making a commentary from the video available for radio). I'd like to have a look at that.

BBC regularly provide red button radio commentary for sports that BBC Radio are also covering.

You're also again showing you lack of knowledge of web hosting - the cost of storing video that's not being accessed isn't particularly high. The cost only really comes into it when that video is accessed at scale. Having an archive recording of a Mayo Intermediate group game is not going to cost much to host indefinitely because the viewership is going to be so low.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2018, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Plus give me some examples of the sports services who are syncing live radio comms with live video pics (rather than making a commentary from the video available for radio). I'd like to have a look at that.

BBC regularly provide red button radio commentary for sports that BBC Radio are also covering.

You're also again showing you lack of knowledge of web hosting - the cost of storing video that's not being accessed isn't particularly high. The cost only really comes into it when that video is accessed at scale. Having an archive recording of a Mayo Intermediate group game is not going to cost much to host indefinitely because the viewership is going to be so low.

What costs involved in uploading to youtube?  I'd imagine most viewers would be happy enough to see a game within a day or two of it being played.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2018, 04:14:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Plus give me some examples of the sports services who are syncing live radio comms with live video pics (rather than making a commentary from the video available for radio). I'd like to have a look at that.

BBC regularly provide red button radio commentary for sports that BBC Radio are also covering.

You're also again showing you lack of knowledge of web hosting - the cost of storing video that's not being accessed isn't particularly high. The cost only really comes into it when that video is accessed at scale. Having an archive recording of a Mayo Intermediate group game is not going to cost much to host indefinitely because the viewership is going to be so low.

What costs involved in uploading to youtube?  I'd imagine most viewers would be happy enough to see a game within a day or two of it being played.

YouTube makes its money entirely from ad revenue, apart from YouTube Red which is an ad free version with some exclusive shows. It's free to upload to. So you could host an archive on YouTube, and that's exactly what Connacht GAA do with games it streams from its CoE in Bekan, but I don't think a third party service wanting to add a paywall to said archives would be even possible. That'd be akin to hot-linking images - the host footing the bandwidth bill with no real advantage for them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on February 06, 2018, 04:49:47 PM

Easytiger - you seem institutionalised with regards to what can and can't be achieved here.

The model of consumption of the national hurling and football leagues is ripe for a huge increase in exposure and awareness with a little sideways thinking.

I note that you dismiss the low tech corner shop approach in terms of demand out there but that is contradicted directly by the Armagh TV experience. People who cannot get to games have a proven appetite for that type of service. I don't know Armagh TV's numbers for a typical championship game but the success of the service has been overwhelming. These games are occasionally a 2/3 camera operation and often 1 fixed camera.

The point is that people know what they are getting with this service and pay for it.

The GAA need to more national leagues coverage beyond division one to a streaming service. The last two sundays I have switched on TG4 to find a live hurling match. I have no problem saying I have no interest but I would absolutely have paid a fiver on the spot to see Carlow Vs London or similar rather than division one hurling.

There are plenty of models out there for decent quality streaming platforms. The intervarsity streaming services in the states are a great starting example.

Every county team records their games now - that's already two per game. A lot of teams now use live footage through analysis feeds already. The cameras are at the grounds as are local radio commentary feeds. It is not beyond the wit of man to create an app that costs say £5 per weekend and gives you access whichever matches are online at the time.

The counties shell out £2-300 on covering these games. You simply cover this cost for them each week to guarantee the footage and you will achieve complete buy in. Another benefit is that like every other sport in the world you have a readily accessible video library of every team in the country for analysis purposes.

Now, all we need is someone in Croke Park with a bit of commercial and technical nous.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:01:26 PM
well that's it sorted then. It would appear that anything can be achieved. Let's ignore EasyTiger's 20 years of experience in favour of enthusiasm.

Sit down and do a business plan folks. Go optimistic on it all you want.

But do remember to factor in that if you want to people to buy into this, it'll need a minimum level of production values. Not sky tv. But not the videos that clubs take either. It has to be an enjoyable experience or people will tune out.

1. Videographer costs (for 3 cameras minimum).
2. Editor costs (we will expect replays and real-time scores on our screens).
3. Commentator costs.
4. Sound operator costs.
5. Equipment purchase, hire and maintenance: cameras, booms, gantries, editing hardware and software. Satellites and/or fibre broadband if we are going live.
6. Legal fees and insurance.
7. Streaming and hosting costs.
8. Website development and maintenance costs.
9. Customer service costs.
10. Marketing costs.

11. And this is a rather important one: ultimate costs to county boards for loss of match day revenue. Remember that when Johnny & Mary go to a game, they both pay in, one of them buys a programme, one of them a ticket for the half time draw,  and if they've brought Johnny Og and Mary Jnr with them, they will do well not to spend a fiver on refreshments. Oh and that falling attendances means less ground rent for the burger van and a reduction in programmes sponsorship charges.

I'm sure there's many more things could be added to this list. But those will be the big ones. And if you really want this service to take off you cannot aim it at what is a niche audience of GAA diehards who'll spend money on watching any aul muck, but can't actually make the games. It has to have a broader interest.


I'd say you'd need to generate average revenues of about €10,000 per game just to ponder this (frankly mad) idea. I've no real reason for that figure other than scanning the list above and doing quick sums.

Factor in that the plum matches are still going to be available on free to air TV, and tell me how you'd price this up. And remember again, Johnny and Mary won't be paying separately. It'll be (at best) one revenue per house.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Wobbler, how much does it cost Armagh TV to broadcast their games? Surely one could extrapolate that business case out into a model for the entire country? I think you are over egging the costs involved and the revenue required.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Plus give me some examples of the sports services who are syncing live radio comms with live video pics (rather than making a commentary from the video available for radio). I'd like to have a look at that.

BBC regularly provide red button radio commentary for sports that BBC Radio are also covering.

You're also again showing you lack of knowledge of web hosting - the cost of storing video that's not being accessed isn't particularly high. The cost only really comes into it when that video is accessed at scale. Having an archive recording of a Mayo Intermediate group game is not going to cost much to host indefinitely because the viewership is going to be so low.

BBC is an integrated broadcasting corporation - the biggest one in the world, including its world services and website. What was being discussed here was taking local radio commentary and combining it with the video pics coming from a separate outside broadcast. Very different from what you are describing at BBC. What you could do is simply say to the radio station that your commentator is actually going to do the TV comms and then have the radio piggyback off that - however, you are then getting into having some form of OB truck with two separate codecs for two audio feeds you are producing, thus eliminating any savings of scale you were going to make.

With regard to web hosting, I'm currently heading up, as one part of my job, the conversion of multiple years of archive footage into digital formats, which will also be accessible online. I've had to do a lot of research on web hosting and the attendant costs. We don't know how much this is going to cost, because I am the only who is actually fleshing out this suggestion. If we don't know how much content we have, or how often and at what quality people want to access it, then we can't put a figure on it, sensibly. I do know that cloud storage is coming down in price, but I work with files that are at a minimum over an hour long, MP4s at broadcast quality 50MB - it really adds up Syf and you would want to be sure of your revenue flows.

My main problem with your thesis is the quality problem. You are asking people to pay money (presumably on a ongoing subscription basis because a one off charge for each customer just wouldn't be viable) to look at previously non-available games. However, as part of saving costs, you are both storing and streaming this footage at a bit rate of 2MB, which is standard enough. You are also shooting these games on single camera and streaming them live from the ground. Now I'm sorry to tell you this, with the existing broadband infrastructure at club grounds, the low bit rate and the attendant problems of single camera footage (whip pans, player identification, staying on a wide shot) then it is going to be like looking into a bowl of soup - especially if you are looking at it on a mobile device. i don't think anyone is going to pay for it on a continuing basis.

No one has done it so far. I think there is a reason for that. Maybe because broadcast is my industry that I am biased towards having the best coverage possible rather than throwing up anything on a screen. That doesn't mean Sky or BT style bells and whistles. Three cameras can cover anything, but not everything should be covered.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:11:42 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Wobbler, how much does it cost Armagh TV to broadcast their games? Surely one could extrapolate that business case out into a model for the entire country? I think you are over egging the costs involved and the revenue required.
Once you move away from letting hobbyists do their thing, and towards structured programming, expectations soar, and so would costs.

The beauty of our game is that there are 32 counties and the day you're born, you become attached to one of them. So we expect equality. But we aren't equal, in terms of size, skills, infrastructure and volunteerism. Demands to run a roughly equal broadcasting service for 32 counties would, ultimately, destroy this dream you all are having.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Plus give me some examples of the sports services who are syncing live radio comms with live video pics (rather than making a commentary from the video available for radio). I'd like to have a look at that.

BBC regularly provide red button radio commentary for sports that BBC Radio are also covering.

You're also again showing you lack of knowledge of web hosting - the cost of storing video that's not being accessed isn't particularly high. The cost only really comes into it when that video is accessed at scale. Having an archive recording of a Mayo Intermediate group game is not going to cost much to host indefinitely because the viewership is going to be so low.

BBC is an integrated broadcasting corporation - the biggest one in the world, including its world services and website. What was being discussed here was taking local radio commentary and combining it with the video pics coming from a separate outside broadcast. Very different from what you are describing at BBC. What you could do is simply say to the radio station that your commentator is actually going to do the TV comms and then have the radio piggyback off that - however, you are then getting into having some form of OB truck with two separate codecs for two audio feeds you are producing, thus eliminating any savings of scale you were going to make.

With regard to web hosting, I'm currently heading up, as one part of my job, the conversion of multiple years of archive footage into digital formats, which will also be accessible online. I've had to do a lot of research on web hosting and the attendant costs. We don't know how much this is going to cost, because I am the only who is actually fleshing out this suggestion. If we don't know how much content we have, or how often and at what quality people want to access it, then we can't put a figure on it, sensibly. I do know that cloud storage is coming down in price, but I work with files that are at a minimum over an hour long, MP4s at broadcast quality 50MB - it really adds up Syf and you would want to be sure of your revenue flows.

My main problem with your thesis is the quality problem. You are asking people to pay money (presumably on a ongoing subscription basis because a one off charge for each customer just wouldn't be viable) to look at previously non-available games. However, as part of saving costs, you are both storing and streaming this footage at a bit rate of 2MB, which is standard enough. You are also shooting these games on single camera and streaming them live from the ground. Now I'm sorry to tell you this, with the existing broadband infrastructure at club grounds, the low bit rate and the attendant problems of single camera footage (whip pans, player identification, staying on a wide shot) then it is going to be like looking into a bowl of soup - especially if you are looking at it on a mobile device. i don't think anyone is going to pay for it on a continuing basis.

No one has done it so far. I think there is a reason for that. Maybe because broadcast is my industry that I am biased towards having the best coverage possible rather than throwing up anything on a screen. That doesn't mean Sky or BT style bells and whistles. Three cameras can cover anything, but not everything should be covered.

http://www.mayogaatv.com/

Relying on mobile coverage is an issue at club grounds but with nearly all semis and finals of the club championship taking place at county grounds providing live service for money is something that is already being done. And you don't need to rely on piss-poor cellular networks there. If it can be done in Mayo and Armagh, the suggestion the GAA with much more resources can't is a seriously tough sell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:22:50 PM
Syf. 15 years ago every club in Ireland had an active website and many of them (including my own) were kept up to date with an astounding depth of content.

Last time I went looking a few years ago, most club websites that I would have followed had fallen to the wayside, and if they exist now house little more than results streams and 5 year old news.

Partly owing in no doubt to how Facebook and WhatsApp changed how we communicate. But mostly because it was exhausting for one or two men to keep their sites afloat with content worth reading.

My gut instinct is that's mayo TV and Armagh TV will go the same way. The time commitment involved from volunteers makes it so difficult to keep it going once one or two volunteers step aside (which happens in every walk of GAA life - except the skills needed to broadcast aren't easily transferable).

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 06:33:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:22:50 PM
Syf. 15 years ago every club in Ireland had an active website and many of them (including my own) were kept up to date with an astounding depth of content.

Last time I went looking a few years ago, most club websites that I would have followed had fallen to the wayside, and if they exist now house little more than results streams and 5 year old news.

Partly owing in no doubt to how Facebook and WhatsApp changed how we communicate. But mostly because it was exhausting for one or two men to keep their sites afloat with content worth reading.

My gut instinct is that's mayo TV and Armagh TV will go the same way. The time commitment involved from volunteers makes it so difficult to keep it going once one or two volunteers step aside (which happens in every walk of GAA life - except the skills needed to broadcast aren't easily transferable).

Trying to compare text-based content fifteen years to video now is a terrible comparison to make. One was at the end of its useful life, the other is on the crest of a wave.

Young people don't read anymore and want visual and video content and they are very willing to pay subscriptions for it if it's the right price and it's something they're interested in. You skate to where the puck is going to be, to quote Wayne Gertzky, and that's exactly what Armagh and Mayo are doing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
But if you are right syf, then all clubs websites and Facebook accounts would surely be awash with video content of what's happening in their clubs. Very few of them are. Mainly because video looks and sounds like shite unless recorded by someone with half a clue.

Communications trends didn't kill club websites so much as the effort involved in maintaining them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
But if you are right syf, then all clubs websites and Facebook accounts would surely be awash with video content of what's happening in their clubs. Very few of them are. Mainly because video looks and sounds like shite unless recorded by someone with half a clue.

Communications trends didn't kill club websites so much as the effort involved in maintaining them.

The best clubs have the best social media strategies. The ones that don't are the fools that will be left behind and either having to play catch-up or simply die from lack of players and membership.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on February 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Wobbler, how much does it cost Armagh TV to broadcast their games? Surely one could extrapolate that business case out into a model for the entire country? I think you are over egging the costs involved and the revenue required.

This is the point that RTE are missing.

Noone is expecting a complete package or anything like it. I - and I am confident a huge body of supporters - would pay for the bare minimum. Do we not all get our hands on matches via a "DVD" which is a single fixed camera? What is wrong with streaming that live on a national league Sunday?

I would wager that noone wants the shite that RTE offer as analysis anyway and certainly they are space wasters on league sunday (which should be a Breaking Ball type program with no studio element).

Rough and Ready is infinitely better than what is laughably described as a "highlights package" currently.

Major Universities in the states have an inhouse sports streaming service. Pay your weekend pass and access their content across the varsity weekends. The might have 4/5 basketball games, 4/5 American football, Lacrosse, soccer, etc. More games than a full football and hurling weekend.

Camera quality varies from 3/4 and decent to single stationary. Commentary varies from well informed volunteers with some professional skills, through enthusiastic fans to no commentary. You know what you're buying and if you're looking for the soccer ladies thirds then you will take what you can get.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
But if you are right syf, then all clubs websites and Facebook accounts would surely be awash with video content of what's happening in their clubs. Very few of them are. Mainly because video looks and sounds like shite unless recorded by someone with half a clue.

Communications trends didn't kill club websites so much as the effort involved in maintaining them.

The best clubs have the best social media strategies. The ones that don't are the fools that will be left behind and either having to play catch-up or simply die from lack of players and membership.

Did you enjoy your introduction to digital marketing course?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Wobbler, how much does it cost Armagh TV to broadcast their games? Surely one could extrapolate that business case out into a model for the entire country? I think you are over egging the costs involved and the revenue required.

This is the point that RTE are missing.

Noone is expecting a complete package or anything like it. I - and I am confident a huge body of supporters - would pay for the bare minimum. Do we not all get our hands on matches via a "DVD" which is a single fixed camera? What is wrong with streaming that live on a national league Sunday?

Define huge.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
But if you are right syf, then all clubs websites and Facebook accounts would surely be awash with video content of what's happening in their clubs. Very few of them are. Mainly because video looks and sounds like shite unless recorded by someone with half a clue.

Communications trends didn't kill club websites so much as the effort involved in maintaining them.

The best clubs have the best social media strategies. The ones that don't are the fools that will be left behind and either having to play catch-up or simply die from lack of players and membership.

Did you enjoy your introduction to digital marketing course?

You don't need a course to know all about how social media works when you grew up with it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:44:53 PM
Perhaps not syferus, but when you come out with absolutely turgid sound bites about clubs needing social media strategies and young people not reading anymore, it would suggest that you're good at hearing things, but not so good as listening to the message.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:44:53 PM
Perhaps not syferus, but when you come out with absolutely turgid sound bites about clubs needing social media strategies and young people not reading anymore, it would suggest that you're good at hearing things, but not so good as listening to the message.

You're the one who thinks VOD services are soon to be a thing of the past..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 06, 2018, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 06, 2018, 07:44:53 PM
Perhaps not syferus, but when you come out with absolutely turgid sound bites about clubs needing social media strategies and young people not reading anymore, it would suggest that you're good at hearing things, but not so good as listening to the message.

You're the one who thinks VOD services are soon to be a thing of the past..

VOD no. VOD of fast-moving sporting occasions by hobbyists, well that has a much cloudier future, as inevitably most tech fanboys will either get too good at it to give their in-demand services away for free, or in most cases, will find other hobbies and interests that appeal to them more.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Wobbler, how much does it cost Armagh TV to broadcast their games? Surely one could extrapolate that business case out into a model for the entire country? I think you are over egging the costs involved and the revenue required.

This is the point that RTE are missing.

Noone is expecting a complete package or anything like it. I - and I am confident a huge body of supporters - would pay for the bare minimum. Do we not all get our hands on matches via a "DVD" which is a single fixed camera? What is wrong with streaming that live on a national league Sunday?

I would wager that noone wants the shite that RTE offer as analysis anyway and certainly they are space wasters on league sunday (which should be a Breaking Ball type program with no studio element).

Rough and Ready is infinitely better than what is laughably described as a "highlights package" currently.

Major Universities in the states have an inhouse sports streaming service. Pay your weekend pass and access their content across the varsity weekends. The might have 4/5 basketball games, 4/5 American football, Lacrosse, soccer, etc. More games than a full football and hurling weekend.

Camera quality varies from 3/4 and decent to single stationary. Commentary varies from well informed volunteers with some professional skills, through enthusiastic fans to no commentary. You know what you're buying and if you're looking for the soccer ladies thirds then you will take what you can get.
Good Jaysis. Duffleking, i worked on breaking ball for 4 years. It was a lot more complex and expensive than you think. And the expense wasn't in the technology. It was in the content creation, the travel, the shooting and the editing- none of which has become cheaper over the years.

Again, if it was easy as you all thjnk and the audience there you all assume, it would be already be in production.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on February 07, 2018, 12:07:49 AM

An episode of Breaking ball cost more than an episode of league Sunday considering all factors - including the RTÉ salaries?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 07, 2018, 12:31:54 AM
You are coming off very foolish here. An episode of league sunday is quite efficent. Made by rte staff - already on the pay roll. Same with the talent- contracted over the season. Presenter- on staff. Content- feeds from tg4 and eir which you alreadt paid for when you bought highlight rights. Studio- already there. Cameras- already there. Editing of match packages- staff editors. All sunk costs.
Breaking ball, on the other hand, was a commissioned programme, made by an independent production company, with contract and freelance staff, both in terms of location shooting and post production. And it was never an analysis programme. It was a magazine and preview progamme. Completely unsuited for the purpose you are suggesting.
Is this what Michael Gove had in mind when he said people were tired of experts?
I don't know what you do duffle, but if i did i wouldn't presume to tell you how to do it. You are talking about a show i worked on for years as a producer and director. I think  i probably know more about it than you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.

Unless you're from one of the eight or so counties regularly featured that's incredibly shït coverage.

Most of these lower division games have much more interest than any of the LOI or underage rugby stuff that is covered.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.

Unless you're from one of the eight or so counties regularly featured that's incredibly shït coverage.

Most of these lower division games have much more interest than any of the LOI or underage rugby stuff that is covered.

2 of the games are club hurling semi finals and another is Cavan v Meath (not quite in the top 8 ) I will try to watch most of this weekends action and I'll only have direct interest in one of the games. I think GAA fans are happy watching any GAA on TV. If you think over 12 hours of GAA coverage over the course of a weekend is incredibly shit then you clearly never going to be happy. Though I suspect you to be one of those people who just argue for arguments sake. Your discussion with Easytiger reminded me of the kinight in Monty Python who kept wanting to fight on even though his opponent had chopped both his arms and legs off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.

Unless you're from one of the eight or so counties regularly featured that's incredibly shït coverage.

Most of these lower division games have much more interest than any of the LOI or underage rugby stuff that is covered.

2 of the games are club hurling semi finals and another is Cavan v Meath (not quite in the top 8 ) I will try to watch most of this weekends action and I'll only have direct interest in one of the games. I think GAA fans are happy watching any GAA on TV. If you think over 12 hours of GAA coverage over the course of a weekend is incredibly shit then you clearly never going to be happy. Though I suspect you to be one of those people who just argue for arguments sake. Your discussion with Easytiger reminded me of the kinight in Monty Python who kept wanting to fight on even though his opponent had chopped both his arms and legs off.

The irony being you clearly don't know a thing about VOD to say that.

If you think the current coverage of GAA by RTE of the league is good or even close to acceptable there is no further discussion needed because you're not seeing what everyone else is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 01:23:54 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 01:16:33 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.

Unless you're from one of the eight or so counties regularly featured that's incredibly shït coverage.

Most of these lower division games have much more interest than any of the LOI or underage rugby stuff that is covered.

2 of the games are club hurling semi finals and another is Cavan v Meath (not quite in the top 8 ) I will try to watch most of this weekends action and I'll only have direct interest in one of the games. I think GAA fans are happy watching any GAA on TV. If you think over 12 hours of GAA coverage over the course of a weekend is incredibly shit then you clearly never going to be happy. Though I suspect you to be one of those people who just argue for arguments sake. Your discussion with Easytiger reminded me of the kinight in Monty Python who kept wanting to fight on even though his opponent had chopped both his arms and legs off.

The irony being you clearly don't know a thing about VOD to say that.

If you think the current coverage of GAA by RTE of the league is good or even close to acceptable there is no further discussion needed because you're not seeing what everyone else is.

My point was in reference to the GAA coverage in general which is 12 hours this weekend across all channels. You responded by saying this was incredibly shit. Compared to even 4 or 5 years ago this is a huge stride forward. I don't need to know anything about VOD to recognise that, so yes no further discussion needed with someone who will just argue for the sake of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 07, 2018, 03:32:26 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.

Unless you're from one of the eight or so counties regularly featured that's incredibly shït coverage.

Most of these lower division games have much more interest than any of the LOI or underage rugby stuff that is covered.

2 of the games are club hurling semi finals and another is Cavan v Meath (not quite in the top 8 ) I will try to watch most of this weekends action and I'll only have direct interest in one of the games. I think GAA fans are happy watching any GAA on TV. If you think over 12 hours of GAA coverage over the course of a weekend is incredibly shit then you clearly never going to be happy. Though I suspect you to be one of those people who just argue for arguments sake. Your discussion with Easytiger reminded me of the kinight in Monty Python who kept wanting to fight on even though his opponent had chopped both his arms and legs off.


The line about most fans being happy watching ANY  GAA  (even hurling ??l ) reminded me of a quote from the editor of nuts:

"
Phil Hilton, editor of Nuts magazine, told the Independent  newspaper. "Men think all breasts are good and are delighted to have access to any at all. The idea that they are connoisseurs is inaccurate. "
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 06:48:12 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 07, 2018, 03:32:26 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 01:10:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 07, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on February 07, 2018, 12:49:35 AM
All told, I will have the opportunity at some point over this coming weekend to watch 5 live games, 2 full games deferred and a 90 min highlights programme. I don't think we do too bad on our GAA coverage.

Unless you're from one of the eight or so counties regularly featured that's incredibly shït coverage.

Most of these lower division games have much more interest than any of the LOI or underage rugby stuff that is covered.

2 of the games are club hurling semi finals and another is Cavan v Meath (not quite in the top 8 ) I will try to watch most of this weekends action and I'll only have direct interest in one of the games. I think GAA fans are happy watching any GAA on TV. If you think over 12 hours of GAA coverage over the course of a weekend is incredibly shit then you clearly never going to be happy. Though I suspect you to be one of those people who just argue for arguments sake. Your discussion with Easytiger reminded me of the kinight in Monty Python who kept wanting to fight on even though his opponent had chopped both his arms and legs off.


The line about most fans being happy watching ANY  GAA  (even hurling ??l ) reminded me of a quote from the editor of nuts:

"
Phil Hilton, editor of Nuts magazine, told the Independent  newspaper. "Men think all breasts are good and are delighted to have access to any at all. The idea that they are connoisseurs is inaccurate. "

If ever there was a man who feels the need to comment ANY GAA game it is your good self Seafoid. So it is an interesting quote alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 07, 2018, 07:12:22 AM
How about expanding GAAGO to cover more games and making it available in Ireland some number of days after the live event...let's say Wednesday every week.

Would there be an appetite for subscribers that way?

Is GAAGO turning a profit at the moment from non-Ireland based subscribers?

I see most games make it onto youtube fairly quickly anyway...here is the Mayo/Kerry game from last Saturday  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twd1jsOhpog&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on February 07, 2018, 09:28:04 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 07, 2018, 12:31:54 AM
You are coming off very foolish here. An episode of league sunday is quite efficent. Made by rte staff - already on the pay roll. Same with the talent- contracted over the season. Presenter- on staff. Content- feeds from tg4 and eir which you alreadt paid for when you bought highlight rights. Studio- already there. Cameras- already there. Editing of match packages- staff editors. All sunk costs.
Breaking ball, on the other hand, was a commissioned programme, made by an independent production company, with contract and freelance staff, both in terms of location shooting and post production. And it was never an analysis programme. It was a magazine and preview progamme. Completely unsuited for the purpose you are suggesting.
Is this what Michael Gove had in mind when he said people were tired of experts?
I don't know what you do duffle, but if i did i wouldn't presume to tell you how to do it. You are talking about a show i worked on for years as a producer and director. I think  i probably know more about it than you.

You are entirely missing my point - willfilly inpresume.

If rte were to make a BB type program Sunday evening they would have the in situ staff to do so?

The only major issue is footage?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 07, 2018, 10:24:44 AM
The only major issue is footage? Christ.

You are completely ignoring what I told you about the programme. This is the last time I will explain it, because, like many people who are ignorant, you are choosing to argue rather than listen -

Breaking Ball was a preview programme rather than a review programme - this entire thread is based on the perceived lack of and need for review programmes.

Breaking Ball was a magazine programme and specifically intended to take a more in-depth view of the games. Journalists for national newspapers were engaged as editorial consultants - they produced the content and interview ideas, which we as staff would organise, plan, shoot and edit. We tried to work at least two weeks ahead of the games we were previewing None of this was done in RTE, by RTE staff.

Those RTE staff would have been engaged in preparations for their live championship coverage which was why Breaking Ball was done by an independent company.

During the League season, RTE staff would be less busy with GAA content, having only highlights rights, but in the sports department they work across all disciplines, so they would be doing other stuff (that has lessened now, with the loss of rights over the past two years).

In any case, a Breaking Ball style show is exactly the wrong type of show to make to review a weekend of League action - because the viewer doesn't want features about a game that will happen next week, they want to see what happened on that weekend. Which is exactly the nub of the argument that we have been having.

It would also be a large and unwanted expense, especially given that you would then have studio, production and staff resources lying idle as I explained above.

Stop digging.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on February 07, 2018, 10:45:13 AM

You couldn't be any more condescending if you tried.

What league Sunday needs to be is a footage only - with voiceover - review of games. No studio, no presenter, no analysts. Forgive my total idiocy on the subject but that surely requires salaried rte production staff and match footage only. The other fluff is dinosaur stuff.

I have the distinct impression  that your experience bears out the view that this whole area needs new ideas from new people in completely different formats and platforms.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 07, 2018, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 06, 2018, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 06, 2018, 06:03:58 PM
Wobbler, how much does it cost Armagh TV to broadcast their games? Surely one could extrapolate that business case out into a model for the entire country? I think you are over egging the costs involved and the revenue required.

This is the point that RTE are missing.

Noone is expecting a complete package or anything like it. I - and I am confident a huge body of supporters - would pay for the bare minimum. Do we not all get our hands on matches via a "DVD" which is a single fixed camera? What is wrong with streaming that live on a national league Sunday?

I would wager that noone wants the shite that RTE offer as analysis anyway and certainly they are space wasters on league sunday (which should be a Breaking Ball type program with no studio element).

Rough and Ready is infinitely better than what is laughably described as a "highlights package" currently.

Major Universities in the states have an inhouse sports streaming service. Pay your weekend pass and access their content across the varsity weekends. The might have 4/5 basketball games, 4/5 American football, Lacrosse, soccer, etc. More games than a full football and hurling weekend.

Camera quality varies from 3/4 and decent to single stationary. Commentary varies from well informed volunteers with some professional skills, through enthusiastic fans to no commentary. You know what you're buying and if you're looking for the soccer ladies thirds then you will take what you can get.

You should stop. Did you ever even watch Breaking Ball? You are embarrassing yourself. Is that condescending enough for you?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on February 07, 2018, 11:19:51 AM

The inference is obvious if you didn't want to deliberately miss it - the program should be devoid of studio content, presenters etc - as BB was. I note you just ignored my most recent post.

QuoteIs that condescending enough for you?

No more or less than your previous replies. The lack of any alternative thinking in how gaelic games is covered in this country is reflected in all of your posts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on February 07, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Easytiger - thanks for sharing your knowledge. Like others here I would have thought it was easier to get a better National League highlights show but yourself and Wobbler have made some excellent points. I do disagree slightly in one area. You both believe that the expectation on level of production would be very high......I'm not so sure about that. I think they Kildare game the last day, while it of course looked bad compared to the TG4 and Eir feeds was better than nothing and gave a small taste of the game. I think it gave enough for a 2 minute report, showing a few scores with a voice over giving a pretty general summary. Not saying it has to be in place for all games but it would suffice as a way of reporting on more games (and the full game footage could be available for a fee for the anoraks!).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 07, 2018, 11:30:09 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 07, 2018, 11:19:51 AM

The inference is obvious if you didn't want to deliberately miss it - the program should be devoid of studio content, presenters etc - as BB was. I note you just ignored my most recent post.

QuoteIs that condescending enough for you?

No more or less than your previous replies. The lack of any alternative thinking in how gaelic games is covered in this country is reflected in all of your posts.

I didn't ignore your recent post - I simply refuted it with your own words. You said you wanted to replace the current highlights programmes with a Breaking Ball style programme. It turns out what you actually want is a reel of highlight packages with no presenter and no studio. Apart from having no presenter, that bears no resemblance whatsover to Breaking Ball, as I have pointed out repeatedly.

So, basically, what has happened here is,  you have used as an example of the format that you want, a programme with a diametrically opposed format. And when faced with a member of the production team of that very show, pointing this out, instead of having the humility to say "sorry mate, that wasn't what I meant" - you doubled down, saying that the act of me pointing out your mistake was not only condescending but indicative of a groupthink within Irish media and the need for a new alternative.

If you never watched Breaking Ball, don't use it as an example of what you want. If you did watch Breaking Ball, and came away with the idea that it was similar to a highlights reel, you need glasses and a hearing aid.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 07, 2018, 11:36:16 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on February 07, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Easytiger - thanks for sharing your knowledge. Like others here I would have thought it was easier to get a better National League highlights show but yourself and Wobbler have made some excellent points. I do disagree slightly in one area. You both believe that the expectation on level of production would be very high......I'm not so sure about that. I think they Kildare game the last day, while it of course looked bad compared to the TG4 and Eir feeds was better than nothing and gave a small taste of the game. I think it gave enough for a 2 minute report, showing a few scores with a voice over giving a pretty general summary. Not saying it has to be in place for all games but it would suffice as a way of reporting on more games (and the full game footage could be available for a fee for the anoraks!).

Absolutely seanie, there is a place for 2 minute reports, but there has to be a recognition of what goes into that, and perhaps why RTE and others choose not to do it. For a report to be accurate and make sense over 2 mins, a single camera man has to go and record the game, either stream the feed back to base or bring it back physically on SD card (which is more likely), then have an editor and possibly an assistant producer cut it down, then write a brief script for v/o before playing it out. So it is an involved process, and the 2 mins you get is the best that you are going to get from that single camera footage.

So when people decry the 2 min option as being somehow disrespectful to the counties involved, I see it as a legitimate attempt to involve more counties, and infinitely preferable for viewers than 70 minute streams of single camera footage. I might be biased there, again, because I'm in the industry, and you're always pushing for things to look as good as they possibly can.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on February 07, 2018, 06:39:07 PM
I always thought Breaking Ball was the best template for a GAA magazine programme until I saw Breaking Bad. Especially when Tyrone are featured.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on February 07, 2018, 09:20:16 PM
Great points easytiger.

Armagh tv I find is a great service. It's obviously done off a small budget and has its limits but still it serves a good purpose.

Could RTÉ possibly do something like that? Say send one camera to a game and either stream it live or offer to stream the whole match during the week following? That would save the work of editing and production but still provide coverage of games that people were unable to attend in person.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:08:19 AM
Does anyone know who does the footage for the sigerson games?

This was available on youtube yesterday before this game was over!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5w6XpARuzM&feature=youtu.be


I'd be very happy with this type of coverage of the lower leagues in the NFL.

Maybe easytiger can explain to me why this can't be done?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 08, 2018, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:08:19 AM
Does anyone know who does the footage for the sigerson games?

This was available on youtube yesterday before this game was over!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5w6XpARuzM&feature=youtu.be


I'd be very happy with this type of coverage of the lower leagues in the NFL.

Maybe easytiger can explain to me why this can't be done?

I think that you may find the person that filmed this posting videos from other competitions on this forum.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 10:20:49 AM
That's the user Any Craic...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
And really, the question I'm getting at is why isn't it possible to do something similar for the NFL/NHL?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
And really, the question I'm getting at is why isn't it possible to do something similar for the NFL/NHL?

Ok, let's look at what you have shown. It is a 40 second clip. It is shot by one cameraman, who has a nice elevated position. He has been clever and stuck a Go Pro in the goals - he probably stuck another one in the far goals. So he shoots the game, he goes home, sticks the SD card in the computer from the main camera, gets the goal out, puts it on a time line, then gets the Go Pro, downloads the footage from that, goes to the same timecode (if he thought to sync them both, otherwise he is spooling through it - no matter, only takes a few minutes) and then he tops and tails that clip from the Go Pro and puts that on the timeline - bish, bash, bosh, you have a 40 second clip.

Now let's think what would happen if you were actually streaming this footage live. Look at the clip, he stays with the scorer, pushes in tight on him as an identifying shot - which you should do. Then he cuts to his replay. If you were streaming that live, you wouldn't be able to cut to a replay, unless you had both cameras connected to a mixing desk (then you are getting into expense, someone manning that desk etc). So, assuming you don't want to do that, the cameraman now has to get back to the goalkeeper for the kick out - from where he is, on tight shot of the scorer. So he whips back to the goalie. It looks ugly and feels disorientating - depending on the kick out strategy and how high scoring a game it is, you are doing that 30 times in a game, more if you include reactions to wides, even more if you try and be ambitious and try and get manager/sideline/crowd reaction.

The very best single cameramen (and believe me guys, if you think it is just a matter of sticking a camera in someone hands, you are very wrong - even amongst the pros, there are lads who have reputations for being the best at single camera footage) will do all that and take those risks - and why? Because they know that single camera shouldn't be watched in full, that are you shooting for the edit, not for a live broadcast, and the more options and cutaways you give the editor, the better your 2 minute report will look.

So, if we can agree that in terms of broadcast (and I'm talking about on a national basis, not club websites) single camera 70 minute footage isn't a runner, than we need to look at what we can get from the 16 or so games that take place on a football weekend (and more if it is a hurling weekend as well). What do we want from these games?

The TV companies only have the money to do about three games each live or deferred on Saturdays and Sundays. And the GAA wouldn't want them doing full coverage of much more in case it affects the gate for other fixures. So you have say roughly 10 games going uncovered at any one weekend.

Do you propose sending a single cameraman to each of those games? Ok, do it (you might have a problem finding that many decent pro sports camera man - remember there are 6 OBs happening that weekend as well, and they would be booked for them first - but let's assume you do).

What are you asking them to do - a two minute report from each of them? Because if you do that, you not only need 10 camera men, you'll need assistant producers to watch over the cut, and editors to do the cut, and a couple of reporters to script and V/O those reports. And by the way, you have just allocated 20-25 minutes of your programme to footage whose quality in no way resembles the six games that weekend that did get full 3 or more camera footage. You only have an hour in the schedules (maybe an hour thirty if there is hurling on as well). And although a lot of people on message boards don't like it, you do have to provide some analysis, where is your time for that?

Or perhaps you just want one clip, say around 40 secs, from each of those 10, possibly more games. You are still paying for cameraman to be in each location - you still have some editing costs, because he is not just doing it for a college communications unit himself - he is bringing the footage into you in RTE/Eir/TV3/TG4 whererever.

And so you do all that, you do a round up for everyone - 40 secs from each game - and someone on a message board says it is a disgrace that you only gave 40 secs to their county. And then you reach for the brandy and a revolver.

These are all the decisions a producer faces - they are editorial, they are budgetary, they are time and schedule based. Producers don't have time to be biased against smaller counties. County websites have the luxury of catering for the highest common denominator - the absolute GAA buff who would watch anything. A producer on a national broadcaster doesn't have that - he has to go for the widest audience, and the widest audience expect quality above a youtube video.

And that is why, in general, the matches beyond the live games, don't get covered universally.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
And really, the question I'm getting at is why isn't it possible to do something similar for the NFL/NHL?

Ok, let's look at what you have shown. It is a 40 second clip. It is shot by one cameraman, who has a nice elevated position. He has been clever and stuck a Go Pro in the goals - he probably stuck another one in the far goals. So he shoots the game, he goes home, sticks the SD card in the computer from the main camera, gets the goal out, puts it on a time line, then gets the Go Pro, downloads the footage from that, goes to the same timecode (if he thought to sync them both, otherwise he is spooling through it - no matter, only takes a few minutes) and then he tops and tails that clip from the Go Pro and puts that on the timeline - bish, bash, bosh, you have a 40 second clip.

Now let's think what would happen if you were actually streaming this footage live. Look at the clip, he stays with the scorer, pushes in tight on him as an identifying shot - which you should do. Then he cuts to his replay. If you were streaming that live, you wouldn't be able to cut to a replay, unless you had both cameras connected to a mixing desk (then you are getting into expense, someone manning that desk etc). So, assuming you don't want to do that, the cameraman now has to get back to the goalkeeper for the kick out - from where he is, on tight shot of the scorer. So he whips back to the goalie. It looks ugly and feels disorientating - depending on the kick out strategy and how high scoring a game it is, you are doing that 30 times in a game, more if you include reactions to wides, even more if you try and be ambitious and try and get manager/sideline/crowd reaction.

The very best single cameramen (and believe me guys, if you think it is just a matter of sticking a camera in someone hands, you are very wrong - even amongst the pros, there are lads who have reputations for being the best at single camera footage) will do all that and take those risks - and why? Because they know that single camera shouldn't be watched in full, that are you shooting for the edit, not for a live broadcast, and the more options and cutaways you give the editor, the better your 2 minute report will look.

So, if we can agree that in terms of broadcast (and I'm talking about on a national basis, not club websites) single camera 70 minute footage isn't a runner, than we need to look at what we can get from the 16 or so games that take place on a football weekend (and more if it is a hurling weekend as well). What do we want from these games?

The TV companies only have the money to do about three games each live or deferred on Saturdays and Sundays. And the GAA wouldn't want them doing full coverage of much more in case it affects the gate for other fixures. So you have say roughly 10 games going uncovered at any one weekend.

Do you propose sending a single cameraman to each of those games? Ok, do it (you might have a problem finding that many decent pro sports camera man - remember there are 6 OBs happening that weekend as well, and they would be booked for them first - but let's assume you do).

What are you asking them to do - a two minute report from each of them? Because if you do that, you not only need 10 camera men, you'll need assistant producers to watch over the cut, and editors to do the cut, and a couple of reporters to script and V/O those reports. And by the way, you have just allocated 20-25 minutes of your programme to footage whose quality in no way resembles the six games that weekend that did get full 3 or more camera footage. You only have an hour in the schedules (maybe an hour thirty if there is hurling on as well). And although a lot of people on message boards don't like it, you do have to provide some analysis, where is your time for that?

Or perhaps you just want one clip, say around 40 secs, from each of those 10, possibly more games. You are still paying for cameraman to be in each location - you still have some editing costs, because he is not just doing it for a college communications unit himself - he is bringing the footage into you in RTE/Eir/TV3/TG4 whererever.

And so you do all that, you do a round up for everyone - 40 secs from each game - and someone on a message board says it is a disgrace that you only gave 40 secs to their county. And then you reach for the brandy and a revolver.

These are all the decisions a producer faces - they are editorial, they are budgetary, they are time and schedule based. Producers don't have time to be biased against smaller counties. County websites have the luxury of catering for the highest common denominator - the absolute GAA buff who would watch anything. A producer on a national broadcaster doesn't have that - he has to go for the widest audience, and the widest audience expect quality above a youtube video.

And that is why, in general, the matches beyond the live games, don't get covered universally.

tiger, that makes a lot of sense to me, and I understand what you are saying. However I think you are trying to consider something very different than I am. I'm not looking for gold standard live production, with cutaways, close ups and replays. I'm not even necessarily talking about live streaming.

In my simple head, with absolutely no TV experience, I am picturing the lads who are currently recording every single county game, and a lot of club games, with an elevated single camera, for video analysis etc. I see them at every game (unless the GAA ban them in Croke Park!) up on a scaffold, or the top of a van. They tape it, warts and all, and then they create DVDs which the clubs and counties look at, and splice for tactical analysis. They also show them in the pub on monday!

I'm just wondering what the commerical realities would be to take those DVDs, on a Monday, and upload them to a cloud based storage solution, and then sell subscriptions to allow access to download and view the ones you want. It would still be Paddy Joe's recording, single camera.

So take away the perfectionist in you for a moment, is that feasible, or would it be cost prohibitive? Given the cameras are there anyway in most of the cases, I'm thinking the major cost factors would be data storage/access, and the cost of doing the video itself?

I'm not trying to belittle the effort and skill that goes into making a top class highlights/live production show, I'm just trying to see in this digital age is there a low cost, low tech way of at least allowing people see games in a library, for a manageable cost.

***Edit

As an example, because I am a nerd, I subscribe to MILB.com. It's Minor League Baseball. Now I don't know if you know minor league baseball, but it goes from Triple A, all the way down to Single A, Rookie Ball and various Fall and Winter Leagues. The crowds can be pitiful. The grounds are small and very basic. But they show almost every single game, every night. I can be watching the Hickory Crawdads versus the Greensboro Grasshoppers from North Carolina on a Tuesday night. It's a fixed camera set to a wide shot, and every so often it jerkily moves into focus on the next batter before panning out again. Golden Globes it ain't but it does a job, and allows me to watch a small town minor league game in the middle of the summer. Probably 10 people worldwide actually bothering to watch this particular game :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 01:09:52 PM
I'm probably the wrong person to be asking AZ, because the essence of my job is to be a perfectionist. We used to say when I was directing you had to be frame perfect, and even making one mistake during a live broadcast used to drive me wild (so it is probably a good idea that I only do it very rarely now)

Can you do what you are suggesting? Absolutely. Where Syferus has it right, is that with new technology anything is possible. Where we differ is that I would look at anything with a producer's eye and ask myself is it worth doing? Bearing in mind all the questions I said producers must ask, that I posited at the end of my last post, it is definitely not a project that I would be getting involved in.

Here is why

I work in broadcast - none of this material is broadcast quality. Indeed even the stuff you are talking about being done by the teams, a lot of the times is done to frame a specific view. Back in my day it was common place for both teams before a game to ask for an isolated feed on DVD of the high behind camera from each match. Watching just a high behind of a game doesn't give me, as a viewer, any of the info I want - individual battles, close ups of skills, catches, fouls etc

Now, I know that what are you talking about is an online resource - but here are the questions I would ask -

Who are the cameramen?
Are they being paid centrally by one body or are we asking them to be hired by each and every county board? (If the latter, then there will be a huge variance in quality)
How are we getting the material back to our production hub? I argued with Syferus before about the implausibility of streaming all these feeds back both on an expense and on a logistics basis -the bandwidth just isn't there at the moment.
Are we curating these matches (are we editing them at all and when do we put them out - because edit and storage have costs)? Is there an archive (speaks to expense again)? Are we asking people to go through a pay wall (will people see value for money in grainy enough footage)? Is that on a subscription basis? And if these are even club games, who owns the rights? Because I know Eir and TG4 will want to know what the hell I'm doing with this stuff.

When I was arguing with Syf, he said that cloud storage was less expensive, the less people accessed it - he put this forward as a way of justifying his costs - it won't be that expensive, because there will be barely anyone interested. Well, why would anyone or any company be involved in a project like that? It just doesn't wash its own face and is wrongheaded in conception.

It was interesting that you mentioned baseball. Two things here - America is both big enough in terms of population and advanced enough in technology that pursuits such as minor league baseball can actually provide a business model that makes a profit. there is just not the same scale here, and new technology isn't going to change that.

Secondly, I have directed, in my time, football, hurling, rugby, soccer, swimming, hockey, boxing and American football. You direct them all differently. Something like baseball and cricket, can be covered on a wide because they are boundary based games. Football and hurling are completely different. I've seen big time directors come over from the UK and try and do GAA games and leave the trucks practically in tears. The essence of our games is the personal duel - taking on a man and beating him. You need to get in tight. Compared to a soccer game, where you can hang on a wide for a lot of the game, you can't do that with GAA. You're just not getting an idea of the game.

So, to sum up - yes it can be done. But for the life of me, I can't understand why you would do it, and where you would get the money and patience to do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 01:19:04 PM
As a PS

America has a huge network of local TV stations and affiliates - so each local area already has a broadcast structure in place. You can guarantee that the local producer goes down to the minor league baseball stadium, fits a couple of robotic cameras feeding into a fibre back to the station, so he can show games really cheaply, and then also gets a few shillings from minor league baseball to upload them to the website.

There is just not the same level of tiers here, and never will be, because of the population. If you don't have that structure already on the ground, you can't do things cheaply. And if you have enough of these feed coming into you, like MILB.com has, then you can leverage the crap stuff with the better stuff - you're getting filler when you don't have premium live stuff, and the swivel eyed obsessives (not saying that is you AZ  ;D) have something to watch in the wee hours.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on February 08, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
Excellent answers there easytiger. Really informative. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Okay the lights could have been crap at Omagh but the rest of the comparison stands.
Eirsport's production costs are puny compared to Sky.
I do know the difference between capturing the sound of a crowd like Sky can manage  to great expense  and what Eirsport  can manage.
As you seemed to have missed my point  by a country mile I will repeat it.
My point countering Wobbler was that we do not expect a production like Sky manages to do.
The difference in costs between a Sky production and what Eirsport managed in Omagh is enormous.
We don't expect a Sky production for  the league 1 games  never mind for lower league game.
GAA fans would be quite content with the standard TG4 can manage.
And if a tiny populated country like Iceland  can manage to broadcast 140 live games from one sporting code with proper HD highlights from all the other games,  I think that's evidence enough that it's viable to do in Ireland.

And by the way, there is no great difference in expense between Sky's audio set up and what Eir would have used - the difference is the crowd number. 8 thousand people make less sound than 20 thousand.
Quite frankly that's total bull, you are spoofing.
The muffled sound from the Omagh game that we heard on tv has nothing to do with crowd size, by all accounts the good attendance there at that game was raucous.
A Sky tv production places many microphones around the ground and mix the crowd sound into the commentary. That costs money with equipment and personal. What Eirsport use to record sound with is something very basic, the crowd noise is deliberately baffled so we can just about hear it underneath the commentary.
When Sky come to town to do a live sporting broadcast there are trucks and crew. A video production crew that eirsport use could fit into  a van.
There is no comparison. What GAA fans want  is something which is available in other countries, a modest viable level of video production competency, way beyond what the Sunday Game broadcast or schedule.
There does need to be a separate sport channel.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on February 08, 2018, 04:12:29 PM
how about say 4 static cameras in good positions going back to one mixer board. or even 2 one close up and one from a height .it may not be top notch but people really just wan to see the games.
Mayo GAA TV. give a very satisfactory coverage with just one camera you forget about the quality as soon as the match begins
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on February 08, 2018, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 08, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 02:55:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 06, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 06, 2018, 12:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 05, 2018, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: square_ball on February 05, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Okay the lights could have been crap at Omagh but the rest of the comparison stands.
Eirsport's production costs are puny compared to Sky.
I do know the difference between capturing the sound of a crowd like Sky can manage  to great expense  and what Eirsport  can manage.
As you seemed to have missed my point  by a country mile I will repeat it.
My point countering Wobbler was that we do not expect a production like Sky manages to do.
The difference in costs between a Sky production and what Eirsport managed in Omagh is enormous.
We don't expect a Sky production for  the league 1 games  never mind for lower league game.
GAA fans would be quite content with the standard TG4 can manage.
And if a tiny populated country like Iceland  can manage to broadcast 140 live games from one sporting code with proper HD highlights from all the other games,  I think that's evidence enough that it's viable to do in Ireland.

And by the way, there is no great difference in expense between Sky's audio set up and what Eir would have used - the difference is the crowd number. 8 thousand people make less sound than 20 thousand.
Quite frankly that's total bull, you are spoofing.
The muffled sound from the Omagh game that we heard on tv has nothing to do with crowd size, by all accounts the good attendance there at that game was raucous.
A Sky tv production places many microphones around the ground and mix the crowd sound into the commentary. That costs money with equipment and personal. What Eirsport use to record sound with is something very basic, the crowd noise is deliberately baffled so we can just about hear it underneath the commentary.
When Sky come to town to do a live sporting broadcast there are trucks and crew. A video production crew that eirsport use could fit into  a van.
There is no comparison. What GAA fans want  is something which is available in other countries, a modest viable level of video production competency, way beyond what the Sunday Game broadcast or schedule.
There does need to be a separate sport channel.



your looking for modest but better than the sunday game from a technical point of view?
the probalem with SG is there too much shite spoken but its fine from a Quality standpoint and anything better i expect would be big bucks ensuring less games were covered and more shite from Larry curly and MOE
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 04:29:26 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 08, 2018, 04:00:20 PM
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I'm sure Monaghan and Kildare fans didn't mind the amateur camera work for their match yesterday as at least they got to see some footage of their match.

On the contrary, given  the nature of this thread to date I'd expect that a) the coverage wasn't long enough, b) it missed most of the key moments in the game, c) the camera work was amateurish, d) the analysis wasn't long enough, e) the analysts clearly didn't watch the game, f) local soccer gets better coverags and there's only 300 people at those matches, and g) RTE are c***ts.

Sky TV etc have created a beast whereby modern sports fans expect on-demand, high quality footage of their sport. In this case, these are unreasonable demands.
Not so, the difference between a Sky tv production and an Eirsport production is chalk and cheese.
That Tyrone Dublin game was a basic bog standard video production with dreadful audio quality which muffled the crowd atmosphere.
What can it cost to hire an independent video production company to at least match that quality?
or hire a production team  to cover a lower division game,  2 cameras, a sound engineer and a master engineer who edits and encodes the content for streaming/broadcast?
TG4 can easily manage high quality broadcasting of a sport event on a low budget, a fraction of what it costs Sky to do their thing.

Putting together a proper highlights package  for both codes  from all the divisions would take a sea change from traditional thinking
Norway has 5 sports channels, Iceland has 4 sport channels which cover most every football/basketball/handball game, some 140 live football games are broadcast in HD  each year and highlights  from the rest of the games.

Jesus more of it. Sky have champo - which usually means it is sunny, there is a good crowd and atmosphere, and you are not relying on flood lights without the sufficient power. There is a big difference between that and a murky winter's night in Omagh. Do you know the difference in audio between 8 thousand people and 20 thousand people?

They all - ALL - use the same OB companies to produce these games - it is the same equipment, it is just a question of how upscale you want your OB to be.

And here's the news, the Eir game had at least three cameras on it. TG4 use a minimum of three cameras for their live games - everyone does, it is the minimum you should use for a live game.

So, they use the same independent OB companies, the same equipment, in many cases the same pool of camera, audio, video replay staff - but in one case they were in the middle of winter, at a league game, the other it is the summer and championship. Lipstick and pigs.
Okay the lights could have been crap at Omagh but the rest of the comparison stands.
Eirsport's production costs are puny compared to Sky.
I do know the difference between capturing the sound of a crowd like Sky can manage  to great expense  and what Eirsport  can manage.
As you seemed to have missed my point  by a country mile I will repeat it.
My point countering Wobbler was that we do not expect a production like Sky manages to do.
The difference in costs between a Sky production and what Eirsport managed in Omagh is enormous.
We don't expect a Sky production for  the league 1 games  never mind for lower league game.
GAA fans would be quite content with the standard TG4 can manage.
And if a tiny populated country like Iceland  can manage to broadcast 140 live games from one sporting code with proper HD highlights from all the other games,  I think that's evidence enough that it's viable to do in Ireland.

And by the way, there is no great difference in expense between Sky's audio set up and what Eir would have used - the difference is the crowd number. 8 thousand people make less sound than 20 thousand.
Quite frankly that's total bull, you are spoofing.
The muffled sound from the Omagh game that we heard on tv has nothing to do with crowd size, by all accounts the good attendance there at that game was raucous.
A Sky tv production places many microphones around the ground and mix the crowd sound into the commentary. That costs money with equipment and personal. What Eirsport use to record sound with is something very basic, the crowd noise is deliberately baffled so we can just about hear it underneath the commentary.
When Sky come to town to do a live sporting broadcast there are trucks and crew. A video production crew that eirsport use could fit into  a van.
There is no comparison. What GAA fans want  is something which is available in other countries, a modest viable level of video production competency, way beyond what the Sunday Game broadcast or schedule.
There does need to be a separate sport channel.

Ok, just for the hard of learning like yourself...

I have worked and directed games for both companies.

Both companies use the same facilities providers, so they could, quite literally, be using the same OB truck except on different dates.

The audio equipment is the same for both.

The only difference is that Sky uses it during the summer (big crowds). And Eir uses it during the winter (small crowds).

You can use small trucks sometimes, and bigger trucks other times, depending on how many cameras you are putting on something, but that doesn't impact the number of effects mics you would put out around a ground. What impacts that is where the crowd is - no point putting a mic in front of an empty terrace. Wind can be a problem as well, you need to shelter the mics if it is bad or you'll get blown out of it, and the way the stands affect the acoustics. This is why you have a sound man on a sound desk mixing the feeds from the various mics

So, you could go by your anecdotal evidence (you didn't like the sound mix and someone who was there told you that there were very rowdy, ergo Eir are turning up in Hiaces with one mic whilst Sky fly in on a mother ship with thousands of them) -

Or you could accept the word of someone who has been there, who knows the specs that Eir use for their league coverage, and realise that the venue and crowd have far more to with sound quality than the number of mics.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 08, 2018, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
And really, the question I'm getting at is why isn't it possible to do something similar for the NFL/NHL?

Ok, let's look at what you have shown. It is a 40 second clip. It is shot by one cameraman, who has a nice elevated position. He has been clever and stuck a Go Pro in the goals - he probably stuck another one in the far goals. So he shoots the game, he goes home, sticks the SD card in the computer from the main camera, gets the goal out, puts it on a time line, then gets the Go Pro, downloads the footage from that, goes to the same timecode (if he thought to sync them both, otherwise he is spooling through it - no matter, only takes a few minutes) and then he tops and tails that clip from the Go Pro and puts that on the timeline - bish, bash, bosh, you have a 40 second clip.
This footage of the goal was available on youtube BEFORE the end of the game. I've no idea how it was done. So unfortunately your explanation doesn't make sense to me.
Now let's think what would happen if you were actually streaming this footage live. I'm not talking about streaming live.
A highlights package (even 2 days later) would suffice for me
Look at the clip, he stays with the scorer, pushes in tight on him as an identifying shot - which you should do. Then he cuts to his replay. If you were streaming that live, you wouldn't be able to cut to a replay, unless you had both cameras connected to a mixing desk (then you are getting into expense, someone manning that desk etc). So, assuming you don't want to do that, the cameraman now has to get back to the goalkeeper for the kick out - from where he is, on tight shot of the scorer. So he whips back to the goalie. It looks ugly and feels disorientating - depending on the kick out strategy and how high scoring a game it is, you are doing that 30 times in a game, more if you include reactions to wides, even more if you try and be ambitious and try and get manager/sideline/crowd reaction.

The very best single cameramen (and believe me guys, if you think it is just a matter of sticking a camera in someone hands, you are very wrong - even amongst the pros, there are lads who have reputations for being the best at single camera footage) will do all that and take those risks - and why? Because they know that single camera shouldn't be watched in full, that are you shooting for the edit, not for a live broadcast, and the more options and cutaways you give the editor, the better your 2 minute report will look. Fair enough, there would be a drop in quality if there aren't enough good cameramen in the country. This could certainly be a problem if there was a significant difference between the quality of footage between gamees

So, if we can agree that in terms of broadcast (and I'm talking about on a national basis, not club websites) single camera 70 minute footage isn't a runner, than we need to look at what we can get from the 16 or so games that take place on a football weekend (and more if it is a hurling weekend as well). What do we want from these games? I agree 70 minute live coverage of all games is not a runner (nor did I suggest it).Broadband issues alone would be reason enough to ensure this isn't a runner

The TV companies only have the money to do about three games each live or deferred on Saturdays and Sundays. And the GAA wouldn't want them doing full coverage of much more in case it affects the gate for other fixures. So you have say roughly 10 games going uncovered at any one weekend. RTE is a public service broadcaster so there is an arguement that covering NFL and NHL games should be done as a public service (not as a profit making exercise!). However, that's an entirely different argument!!

Do you propose sending a single cameraman to each of those games? Ok, do it (you might have a problem finding that many decent pro sports camera man - remember there are 6 OBs happening that weekend as well, and they would be booked for them first - but let's assume you do).  I have no idea how many cameramen of adequate quality there are in the country. But as I said above, if there is a shortage this could be a problem.

What are you asking them to do - a two minute report from each of them? Because if you do that, you not only need 10 camera men, you'll need assistant producers to watch over the cut, and editors to do the cut, and a couple of reporters to script and V/O those reports. And by the way, you have just allocated 20-25 minutes of your programme to footage whose quality in no way resembles the six games that weekend that did get full 3 or more camera footage. You only have an hour in the schedules (maybe an hour thirty if there is hurling on as well). And although a lot of people on message boards don't like it, you do have to provide some analysis, where is your time for that?I'm not asking them to show a 2 minute report at all.
An online highlights package would be fine by me. Also, why do you 'have to' provide analysis? Just because it's always been done one way, doesn't mean it can't be done a different way in the future. TG4 provide little or no analysis on their highlights program


Or perhaps you just want one clip, say around 40 secs, from each of those 10, possibly more games. You are still paying for cameraman to be in each location - you still have some editing costs, because he is not just doing it for a college communications unit himself - he is bringing the footage into you in RTE/Eir/TV3/TG4 whererever.

And so you do all that, you do a round up for everyone - 40 secs from each game - and someone on a message board says it is a disgrace that you only gave 40 secs to their county. And then you reach for the brandy and a revolver. I accept that you'll never satisfy all of the people all of the time. Sure, even if you have 15 minutes coverage of every game, fellas would want 20!

These are all the decisions a producer faces - they are editorial, they are budgetary, they are time and schedule based. Producers don't have time to be biased against smaller counties. County websites have the luxury of catering for the highest common denominator - the absolute GAA buff who would watch anything. A producer on a national broadcaster doesn't have that - he has to go for the widest audience, and the widest audience expect quality above a youtube video. But my point is there is a market for an online highlights package.

And that is why, in general, the matches beyond the live games, don't get covered universally.
I'm not trying to be argumentative for the sake of it tiger. I just think the product your are describing is different to the product that would satisfy me. I completely understand the reasons as you have explained why all games can't be shown on the sunday game programme. But I'd be happy with 3-4 minutes of highlights online with no analysis. This is a different product to what AZ is describing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2018, 04:41:28 PM
Easytiger, you sound like you know what you're talking about tbf but if RTÉ can't even be arsed to show the D3 & D4 results up on the screen during league sunday then even without the barriers you've outlined, chances are they wouldn't be willing to provide any coverage of the lower leagues.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 04:49:39 PM
Which brings me back to my original finishing point from my original post on this matter Macdanger - slagging them off for all the things they can't control (which I am now absolutely exhausted from pointing out) lets them off the hook for the things they can control (reading out the results, talent choices, editorial choices).

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
It's the GAA's responsibility to promote the game in all counties. They are failing in that duty and exactly like grant money, they only really care about the top counties.

Many of these matches are recorded; the idea that it needs to be Croke Park-quaility production to be sold is a serious strawman that no one has made a case for. The choice is no coverage and any coverage; people will be delighted to see their county or club no matter where in Ireland or Earth they are. The infrastructure to host and stream them live and in an archive after the fact are in place, particularly in county grounds which are already served by fiber optic broadband that can take care of uploading the video and audio with little problem.

Money is what will drive the GAA to do something and an on-demand service that gives access to a constantly growing library of GAA matches at any and all grades is an easy way to make a few bucks. If they went the extra mile and included radio commentary streams by making deals with local stations, as well as making historical GAA documentaries and magazine shows available, they'd have a service I'd pay 15 Euro a month for in a heartbeat.

This service is going to arrive eventually - it's only a matter of when. The sooner it does the faster the rough edges will be sanded away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: westbound on February 08, 2018, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: westbound on February 08, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
And really, the question I'm getting at is why isn't it possible to do something similar for the NFL/NHL?

Ok, let's look at what you have shown. It is a 40 second clip. It is shot by one cameraman, who has a nice elevated position. He has been clever and stuck a Go Pro in the goals - he probably stuck another one in the far goals. So he shoots the game, he goes home, sticks the SD card in the computer from the main camera, gets the goal out, puts it on a time line, then gets the Go Pro, downloads the footage from that, goes to the same timecode (if he thought to sync them both, otherwise he is spooling through it - no matter, only takes a few minutes) and then he tops and tails that clip from the Go Pro and puts that on the timeline - bish, bash, bosh, you have a 40 second clip.
This footage of the goal was available on youtube BEFORE the end of the game. I've no idea how it was done. So unfortunately your explanation doesn't make sense to me.
Now let's think what would happen if you were actually streaming this footage live. I'm not talking about streaming live.
A highlights package (even 2 days later) would suffice for me
Look at the clip, he stays with the scorer, pushes in tight on him as an identifying shot - which you should do. Then he cuts to his replay. If you were streaming that live, you wouldn't be able to cut to a replay, unless you had both cameras connected to a mixing desk (then you are getting into expense, someone manning that desk etc). So, assuming you don't want to do that, the cameraman now has to get back to the goalkeeper for the kick out - from where he is, on tight shot of the scorer. So he whips back to the goalie. It looks ugly and feels disorientating - depending on the kick out strategy and how high scoring a game it is, you are doing that 30 times in a game, more if you include reactions to wides, even more if you try and be ambitious and try and get manager/sideline/crowd reaction.

The very best single cameramen (and believe me guys, if you think it is just a matter of sticking a camera in someone hands, you are very wrong - even amongst the pros, there are lads who have reputations for being the best at single camera footage) will do all that and take those risks - and why? Because they know that single camera shouldn't be watched in full, that are you shooting for the edit, not for a live broadcast, and the more options and cutaways you give the editor, the better your 2 minute report will look. Fair enough, there would be a drop in quality if there aren't enough good cameramen in the country. This could certainly be a problem if there was a significant difference between the quality of footage between gamees

So, if we can agree that in terms of broadcast (and I'm talking about on a national basis, not club websites) single camera 70 minute footage isn't a runner, than we need to look at what we can get from the 16 or so games that take place on a football weekend (and more if it is a hurling weekend as well). What do we want from these games? I agree 70 minute live coverage of all games is not a runner (nor did I suggest it).Broadband issues alone would be reason enough to ensure this isn't a runner

The TV companies only have the money to do about three games each live or deferred on Saturdays and Sundays. And the GAA wouldn't want them doing full coverage of much more in case it affects the gate for other fixures. So you have say roughly 10 games going uncovered at any one weekend. RTE is a public service broadcaster so there is an arguement that covering NFL and NHL games should be done as a public service (not as a profit making exercise!). However, that's an entirely different argument!!

Do you propose sending a single cameraman to each of those games? Ok, do it (you might have a problem finding that many decent pro sports camera man - remember there are 6 OBs happening that weekend as well, and they would be booked for them first - but let's assume you do).  I have no idea how many cameramen of adequate quality there are in the country. But as I said above, if there is a shortage this could be a problem.

What are you asking them to do - a two minute report from each of them? Because if you do that, you not only need 10 camera men, you'll need assistant producers to watch over the cut, and editors to do the cut, and a couple of reporters to script and V/O those reports. And by the way, you have just allocated 20-25 minutes of your programme to footage whose quality in no way resembles the six games that weekend that did get full 3 or more camera footage. You only have an hour in the schedules (maybe an hour thirty if there is hurling on as well). And although a lot of people on message boards don't like it, you do have to provide some analysis, where is your time for that?I'm not asking them to show a 2 minute report at all.
An online highlights package would be fine by me. Also, why do you 'have to' provide analysis? Just because it's always been done one way, doesn't mean it can't be done a different way in the future. TG4 provide little or no analysis on their highlights program


Or perhaps you just want one clip, say around 40 secs, from each of those 10, possibly more games. You are still paying for cameraman to be in each location - you still have some editing costs, because he is not just doing it for a college communications unit himself - he is bringing the footage into you in RTE/Eir/TV3/TG4 whererever.

And so you do all that, you do a round up for everyone - 40 secs from each game - and someone on a message board says it is a disgrace that you only gave 40 secs to their county. And then you reach for the brandy and a revolver. I accept that you'll never satisfy all of the people all of the time. Sure, even if you have 15 minutes coverage of every game, fellas would want 20!

These are all the decisions a producer faces - they are editorial, they are budgetary, they are time and schedule based. Producers don't have time to be biased against smaller counties. County websites have the luxury of catering for the highest common denominator - the absolute GAA buff who would watch anything. A producer on a national broadcaster doesn't have that - he has to go for the widest audience, and the widest audience expect quality above a youtube video. But my point is there is a market for an online highlights package.

And that is why, in general, the matches beyond the live games, don't get covered universally.
I'm not trying to be argumentative for the sake of it tiger. I just think the product your are describing is different to the product that would satisfy me. I completely understand the reasons as you have explained why all games can't be shown on the sunday game programme. But I'd be happy with 3-4 minutes of highlights online with no analysis. This is a different product to what AZ is describing.

Ok, you may not be trying to be argumentative, but you are being so. You were the one who asked me to answer your question as to why a clip that you showed, which is 40 secs long and shows only a goal, could not be replicated across all NFL games. I've done my best to answer that.

Quickly going through this - as to why the clip appeared on youtube before the end of the game - maybe he didn't have to record the whole game. Or maybe he handed the SD card with the goal on it to his friend to upload while the game was still going. I don't know. I simply outlined how I would make and upload such a clip if I had to record an entire game. You are the one who posted the clip, you should know more than me.

RTE is a public service broadcaster, but it has a dual funding model, which means it has to be cognisant of commercial issues - hence "Dancing With The Stars" - its a paradox but it is a reality.

No, you weren't asking for a 2 minute report. You just asked how that clip could be replicated across the league. Now apparently, you are willing to expand on what you want, and it is a 3-4 minutes highlights package - I've got news for you - that takes as much work as a 2 minute report. Even without a voiceover script. Would these highlight packages have any graphics on them? To tell you who was playing or what the score is? All doable, just takes a bit of work.

Why do you have to provide analysis? Well, I don't, not if your end goal is basically 3-4 minute highlights packages, with no script, no score, no context. That is all doable. It's just that it is such an unattractive prospect I don't think anyone is going to pay you for it, and if it doesn't bring in revenue, then you are goosed - especially as you are going to have to pay the GAA for online highlight rights. They will not accept magic beans.

You think there is a market for what you have just described (you could have done that before, by the way and saved me some time). when you use the word "market", I'm assuming that means someone is going to pay for it, and someone is going to have to be paid to make it. If that's the case, I don't think it is viable - NB I said viable, not possible.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
It's the GAA's responsibility to promote the game in all counties. They are failing in that duty and exactly like grant money, they only really care about the top counties.

Many of these matches are recorded; the idea that it needs to be Croke Park-quaility production to be sold is a serious strawman that no one has made a case for. The choice is no coverage and any coverage; people will be delighted to see their county or club no matter where in Ireland or Earth they are. The infrastructure to host and stream them live and in an archive after the fact are in place, particularly in county grounds which are already served by fiber optic broadband that can take care of uploading the video and audio with little problem.

Money is what will drive the GAA to do something and an on-demand service that gives access to a constantly growing library of GAA matches at any and all grades is an easy way to make a few bucks. If they went the extra mile and included radio commentary streams by making deals with local stations, as well as making historical GAA documentaries and magazine shows available, they'd have a service I'd pay 15 Euro a month for in a heartbeat.

This service is going to arrive eventually - it's only a matter of when. The sooner it does the faster the rough edges will be sanded away.

So basically you are advocating for GAA TV - check back two pages and you'll find me advocating for that as the only possible way to provide the service you are all clamouring for and being a viable proposition...

and then you go and spoil it all by asking for unicorns as well - as the highlighted sections above show. Syf, you may live in a hyper connected digital utopia, but the vast majority of county grounds do not. Sorry, they just don't and I've worked in the majority of them.

And as for throwing in the odd magazine show and historical documentary, do you even have a clue how much they cost? How long they take to prepare and shoot? And before you bang on about how you don't want the quality, what you are actually doing here is rabbiting on about how good and reliable skodas are and how you are going to get one, and when someone asks you what model, you whip out a picture of a Porsche.

There is very little reality in any of these discussions guys. One thing that hasn't changed in 20 years is that production is expensive - platforms may change, delivery may change, technology has certainly changed - but you still need bodies on the ground and some measure of production nous for it to be viable.

And if you don't want it to be viable, fine. The professionals you need won't work for you, because you won't be able to pay them. Shoot it yourself on a phone - prove me wrong. Because for all the talk of how attractive this all is, no one is touching it with a barge pole.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
It's the GAA's responsibility to promote the game in all counties. They are failing in that duty and exactly like grant money, they only really care about the top counties.

Many of these matches are recorded; the idea that it needs to be Croke Park-quaility production to be sold is a serious strawman that no one has made a case for. The choice is no coverage and any coverage; people will be delighted to see their county or club no matter where in Ireland or Earth they are. The infrastructure to host and stream them live and in an archive after the fact are in place, particularly in county grounds which are already served by fiber optic broadband that can take care of uploading the video and audio with little problem.

Money is what will drive the GAA to do something and an on-demand service that gives access to a constantly growing library of GAA matches at any and all grades is an easy way to make a few bucks. If they went the extra mile and included radio commentary streams by making deals with local stations, as well as making historical GAA documentaries and magazine shows available, they'd have a service I'd pay 15 Euro a month for in a heartbeat.

This service is going to arrive eventually - it's only a matter of when. The sooner it does the faster the rough edges will be sanded away.

So basically you are advocating for GAA TV - check back two pages and you'll find me advocating for that as the only possible way to provide the service you are all clamouring for and being a viable proposition...

and then you go and spoil it all by asking for unicorns as well - as the highlighted sections above show. Syf, you may live in a hyper connected digital utopia, but the vast majority of county grounds do not. Sorry, they just don't and I've worked in the majority of them.

And as for throwing in the odd magazine show and historical documentary, do you even have a clue how much they cost? How long they take to prepare and shoot? And before you bang on about how you don't want the quality, what you are actually doing here is rabbiting on about how good and reliable skodas are and how you are going to get one, and when someone asks you what model, you whip out a picture of a Porsche.

There is very little reality in any of these discussions guys. One thing that hasn't changed in 20 years is that production is expensive - platforms may change, delivery may change, technology has certainly changed - but you still need bodies on the ground and some measure of production nous for it to be viable.

And if you don't want it to be viable, fine. The professionals you need won't work for you, because you won't be able to pay them. Shoot it yourself on a phone - prove me wrong. Because for all the talk of how attractive this all is, no one is touching it with a barge pole.

Except Armagh TV and Mayo TV. They do club games at least in this manner. And they charge a couple of quid I think for every person who wants to view. You use the Skoda and Porsche analogy there with Syf, but to be honest I think we're asking for the Skoda, and you're saying, 'Yeah but it's really expensive to build a Porsche'. This is the Skoda I want :)

http://armaghgaa.net/armagh-tv-archived-full-games/ (http://armaghgaa.net/armagh-tv-archived-full-games/)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 08, 2018, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 04:53:32 PM
It's the GAA's responsibility to promote the game in all counties. They are failing in that duty and exactly like grant money, they only really care about the top counties.

Many of these matches are recorded; the idea that it needs to be Croke Park-quaility production to be sold is a serious strawman that no one has made a case for. The choice is no coverage and any coverage; people will be delighted to see their county or club no matter where in Ireland or Earth they are. The infrastructure to host and stream them live and in an archive after the fact are in place, particularly in county grounds which are already served by fiber optic broadband that can take care of uploading the video and audio with little problem.

Money is what will drive the GAA to do something and an on-demand service that gives access to a constantly growing library of GAA matches at any and all grades is an easy way to make a few bucks. If they went the extra mile and included radio commentary streams by making deals with local stations, as well as making historical GAA documentaries and magazine shows available, they'd have a service I'd pay 15 Euro a month for in a heartbeat.

This service is going to arrive eventually - it's only a matter of when. The sooner it does the faster the rough edges will be sanded away.

So basically you are advocating for GAA TV - check back two pages and you'll find me advocating for that as the only possible way to provide the service you are all clamouring for and being a viable proposition...

and then you go and spoil it all by asking for unicorns as well - as the highlighted sections above show. Syf, you may live in a hyper connected digital utopia, but the vast majority of county grounds do not. Sorry, they just don't and I've worked in the majority of them.

And as for throwing in the odd magazine show and historical documentary, do you even have a clue how much they cost? How long they take to prepare and shoot? And before you bang on about how you don't want the quality, what you are actually doing here is rabbiting on about how good and reliable skodas are and how you are going to get one, and when someone asks you what model, you whip out a picture of a Porsche.

There is very little reality in any of these discussions guys. One thing that hasn't changed in 20 years is that production is expensive - platforms may change, delivery may change, technology has certainly changed - but you still need bodies on the ground and some measure of production nous for it to be viable.

And if you don't want it to be viable, fine. The professionals you need won't work for you, because you won't be able to pay them. Shoot it yourself on a phone - prove me wrong. Because for all the talk of how attractive this all is, no one is touching it with a barge pole.

They're already doing them for GAA Go.

I think a lot of people on this forum forget that we're in a silo here, interacting only with people who are mad about football and hurling and would happily pay a tenner a month to have access to poor enough footage of games. And there definitely are a number of people all over the country who would pay for this. But is there a big enough demand to really make it worthwhile showing a number (not even all) Division 2, 3 and 4 games like this? I don't think so. GAA TV might happen, but I don't think it will be what people here want, with all 16 football and hurling league matches available on catch up each week.


EDIT: As for the points about Armagh TV and Mayo TV, people don't care what it looks like and will pay that for their own county or club. Most people would be a lot more selective about what they watch when they have no involvement in the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 05:41:41 PM
I never said do magazine shows and documentaries them themselves. Read what was said. RTE and TG4 alone have massive archives of GAA content that isn't live matches or highlight shows and isn't making them a single penny as it stands. It's the same sort of licensing model you see with Netflix and Amazon Video - pay the holder a fee to let you stream the video and everyone benefits.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Well apparently the Skoda has to be hosted and streamed live from every county ground and be available world wide an a subscription platform like GAA Go or better.

The Skoda also has to make deals with local radio stations to access their commentaries. It should also be making GAA historical documentaries and magazine shows.

The Skoda is no longer a Skoda. It is a media conglomerate.

And you are now misrepresenting my whole point in this argument AZ. You and others said "look at what they do on county sites, why can't they do that on RTE/Eir/Sky/TG4/TV3 etc" and I told you exactly why they couldn't. Nobody is saying that county sites don't do great work, and nobody is saying that it is not a good idea for them to stream matches. I was just answering the question why national broadcasters don't.

In short, you keep on coming into my Porsche dealership looking for a Skoda. I've explained many times why you can't get one here.

I'll be getting a restraining order next  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Well apparently the Skoda has to be hosted and streamed live from every county ground and be available world wide an a subscription platform like GAA Go or better.

The Skoda also has to make deals with local radio stations to access their commentaries. It should also be making GAA historical documentaries and magazine shows.

The Skoda is no longer a Skoda. It is a media conglomerate.

And you are now misrepresenting my whole point in this argument AZ. You and others said "look at what they do on county sites, why can't they do that on RTE/Eir/Sky/TG4/TV3 etc" and I told you exactly why they couldn't. Nobody is saying that county sites don't do great work, and nobody is saying that it is not a good idea for them to stream matches. I was just answering the question why national broadcasters don't.

In short, you keep on coming into my Porsche dealership looking for a Skoda. I've explained many times why you can't get one here.

I'll be getting a restraining order next  ;D

I'm not advocating this on RTE/EIR. That was someone else. I'm looking for a dedicated online service.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2018, 05:50:58 PM
Great insight easytiger, I'm not a fan of the RTE coverage at all during the summer and much less the league coverage on Sunday evenings.
Interesting to see the challenges involved that a lay person wouldn't have any clue about really but I would still be very much of the opinion that of the GAA resources and footage that RTE do have access to, they use it very poorly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 05:55:46 PM
The reason RTE and TG4 don't is because they are public enterprises run by civil servants. FFS the RTE player still uses Flash in 2018 and we're supposed to think they deeply understand streaming? They've never been able to truly invoate. Sky won't because they don't give a shît and just use the GAA to keep Sky Sports subs on tap when the PL ends.

So it falls on the organisation running the games themselves to think outside the box. The ones that can do whatever the feck they like with footage recorded at any ground up and down the country that isn't on TV. Other sports do it. The GAA can too, and eventually will. This is both a money-making opportunity and a forward-facing promotional tool for the sport.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 05:41:41 PM
I never said do magazine shows and documentaries them themselves. Read what was said. RTE and TG4 alone have massive archives of GAA content that isn't live matches or highlight shows and isn't making them a single penny as it stands. It's the same sort of licensing model you see with Netflix and Amazon Video - pay the holder a fee to let you stream the video and everyone benefits.

And why would they give them to you? For GAA TV to work, the organisation has to take back all their live broadcasting rights - you're just after gutting the sports department of RTE and TG4. I doubt they would be in any mood to throw you the complete series of "Laochra Gael" and "The Marty Squad" after you just decimated their summer schedule.

And they don't have a massive archive of GAA related content that isn't live matches or highlights. Certainly, most of the series like "Breaking Ball", "The Committee Room", "The Marty Squad", "Thank Friday It's GAA", "Park Live" are all review or preview programmes, so they are relevant only really to the weeks they were recorded or broadcast in.

God love your ambition Syf, you have gone from Armagh TV to Amazon and Netflix in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Well apparently the Skoda has to be hosted and streamed live from every county ground and be available world wide an a subscription platform like GAA Go or better.

The Skoda also has to make deals with local radio stations to access their commentaries. It should also be making GAA historical documentaries and magazine shows.

The Skoda is no longer a Skoda. It is a media conglomerate.

And you are now misrepresenting my whole point in this argument AZ. You and others said "look at what they do on county sites, why can't they do that on RTE/Eir/Sky/TG4/TV3 etc" and I told you exactly why they couldn't. Nobody is saying that county sites don't do great work, and nobody is saying that it is not a good idea for them to stream matches. I was just answering the question why national broadcasters don't.

In short, you keep on coming into my Porsche dealership looking for a Skoda. I've explained many times why you can't get one here.

I'll be getting a restraining order next  ;D

I'm not advocating this on RTE/EIR. That was someone else. I'm looking for a dedicated online service.

Yeah, you are looking for something along the lines of MILB - and I thought  I gave a fairly cogent answer as to why that model wouldn't work over here.

So now we've progressed to me looking under the bonnet of the Skoda and telling you it won't go as fast as the Porsche, and you turning around and entering it in Le Mans.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 05:46:26 PM
Well apparently the Skoda has to be hosted and streamed live from every county ground and be available world wide an a subscription platform like GAA Go or better.

The Skoda also has to make deals with local radio stations to access their commentaries. It should also be making GAA historical documentaries and magazine shows.

The Skoda is no longer a Skoda. It is a media conglomerate.

And you are now misrepresenting my whole point in this argument AZ. You and others said "look at what they do on county sites, why can't they do that on RTE/Eir/Sky/TG4/TV3 etc" and I told you exactly why they couldn't. Nobody is saying that county sites don't do great work, and nobody is saying that it is not a good idea for them to stream matches. I was just answering the question why national broadcasters don't.

In short, you keep on coming into my Porsche dealership looking for a Skoda. I've explained many times why you can't get one here.

I'll be getting a restraining order next  ;D

I'm not advocating this on RTE/EIR. That was someone else. I'm looking for a dedicated online service.

Yeah, you are looking for something along the lines of MILB - and I thought  I gave a fairly cogent answer as to why that model wouldn't work over here.

So now we've progressed to me looking under the bonnet of the Skoda and telling you it won't go as fast as the Porsche, and you turning around and entering it in Le Mans.

I disagree that it wouldn't work here. I point to Armagh and Mayo TV as exhibit A and B. If we had 32 individual counties all running their own .TV,  we'd actually have what I'm talking about by default.

I don't want to enter Le Mans. I just want to have a drive around the country nice and leisurely.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
That is a bit disingenuous - MILB, which you specifically used an example seems to be a different beast than Armagh or Mayo TV, and I answered directly as to why that wouldn't work over here.

I also said that baseball as a boundary game is more suited to wide shots, robotic cams etc, whereas I don't think the same can be said of football and hurling.

That said, we don't really know enough about Mayo and Armagh TV. We don't know if they make a profit - I would suspect they don't. I would think that their costs are covered by sponsors - which is all well and good. However, the problem with running a service from sponsorship money is that if the sponsor loses interest, then the service offered could go to the wall.

I have a mate who was done a lot in this area, advising county boards on media stuff and things - I might give him a buzz over the weekend and see what he thinks of the landscape at the moment. He is a Mayo man so I'd say he is plugged in there.

I just don't think there is enough of an appetite for raw footage of games for these types of channels to stand alone, especially given our relatively small population and the lack of local broadcasting infrastructure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2018, 06:26:32 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2018, 05:50:58 PM
Great insight easytiger, I'm not a fan of the RTE coverage at all during the summer and much less the league coverage on Sunday evenings.
Interesting to see the challenges involved that a lay person wouldn't have any clue about really but I would still be very much of the opinion that of the GAA resources and footage that RTE do have access to, they use it very poorly.
+1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
That is a bit disingenuous - MILB, which you specifically used an example seems to be a different beast than Armagh or Mayo TV, and I answered directly as to why that wouldn't work over here.

I also said that baseball as a boundary game is more suited to wide shots, robotic cams etc, whereas I don't think the same can be said of football and hurling.

That said, we don't really know enough about Mayo and Armagh TV. We don't know if they make a profit - I would suspect they don't. I would think that their costs are covered by sponsors - which is all well and good. However, the problem with running a service from sponsorship money is that if the sponsor loses interest, then the service offered could go to the wall.

I have a mate who was done a lot in this area, advising county boards on media stuff and things - I might give him a buzz over the weekend and see what he thinks of the landscape at the moment. He is a Mayo man so I'd say he is plugged in there.

I just don't think there is enough of an appetite for raw footage of games for these types of channels to stand alone, especially given our relatively small population and the lack of local broadcasting infrastructure.

And you could well be right. I think it's more attainable though, than some of the more 'optimistic' opinions on what RTE/EIR/TG4 could do in a very professional manner.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
What you're all arguing about boils down to timescale - eventually cellular coverage and via fiber optic networks  will be so good that you could stream a match from the Aran Islands with little issue, all the while video compression will get better and better with .265 HEVC only starting to break through right now. And eventually software AI will become good enough at tracking action that a cameraman won't be even needed.

When these things happen, who knows. But anyone who thinks that the service outline cannot happen for technical reasons is, frankly, wrong. I think it's very feasible already.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 06:59:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
What you're all arguing about boils down to timescale - eventually cellular coverage and via fiber optic networks  will be so good that you could stream a match from the Aran Islands with little issue, all the while video compression will get better and better with .265 HEVC only starting to break through right now. And eventually software AI will become good enough at tracking action that a cameraman won't be even needed.

When these things happen, who knows. But anyone who thinks that the service outline cannot happen for technical reasons is, frankly, wrong. I think it's very feasible already.

I'd actually love to get a service outline from you beyond "stream all matches - make it like GAA Go". I'd like to see some kind of structure. What is it that you want? Because, frankly, if you don't outline specifically what you want, then it is very easy to claim that it would work. And given that one of the only things that you have been clear about is the reliance on the broadband infrastructure currently at county grounds for this new service, then I think scepticism is warranted.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
And eventually software AI will become good enough at tracking action that a cameraman won't be even needed.

God, I just saw this.

Unicorns.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
And eventually software AI will become good enough at tracking action that a cameraman won't be even needed.

God, I just saw this.

Unicorns.

You seriously think that won't happen? Seriously?

You're way off base if you don't realise the amount of jobs that will be done cheaper and better than humans by AI in the decades ahead.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2018, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
What you're all arguing about boils down to timescale - eventually cellular coverage and via fiber optic networks  will be so good that you could stream a match from the Aran Islands with little issue, all the while video compression will get better and better with .265 HEVC only starting to break through right now. And eventually software AI will become good enough at tracking action that a cameraman won't be even needed.

When these things happen, who knows. But anyone who thinks that the service outline cannot happen for technical reasons is, frankly, wrong. I think it's very feasible already.

Look at elon musk. Almost anything is possible with money.

Any level of compression will still require a half decent network backbone.

We have areas without significantly better bandwidth than a dialup modem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
And eventually software AI will become good enough at tracking action that a cameraman won't be even needed.

God, I just saw this.

Unicorns.

You seriously think that won't happen? Seriously?

You're way off base if you don't realise the amount of jobs that will be done cheaper and better than humans by AI in the decades ahead.
Syf i already work with robotic cameras and voice recignition software. We are always looking to see what advances there are in automation. But AI controlled cameras are at least a decade away and they will be used in studio situations.
Your optimism abiut them being used in a match situation represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what cameras actually do at a match, which makes your certainty in your pronouncements all the more baffling. I can see AI providing nice add ons such as player cams etc but the software is miles and years away from replacing staff on main match cams.

Which kind of makes it irrelevant to the discussion about a service and opportunity you think is just around the corner- and you still haven't described.

Just because elon musk stuck a tesla in space doesn't mean that we'll all be orbiting in sports cars next year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LooseCannon on February 08, 2018, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 08, 2018, 06:26:57 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 08, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
That is a bit disingenuous - MILB, which you specifically used an example seems to be a different beast than Armagh or Mayo TV, and I answered directly as to why that wouldn't work over here.

I also said that baseball as a boundary game is more suited to wide shots, robotic cams etc, whereas I don't think the same can be said of football and hurling.

That said, we don't really know enough about Mayo and Armagh TV. We don't know if they make a profit - I would suspect they don't. I would think that their costs are covered by sponsors - which is all well and good. However, the problem with running a service from sponsorship money is that if the sponsor loses interest, then the service offered could go to the wall.

I have a mate who was done a lot in this area, advising county boards on media stuff and things - I might give him a buzz over the weekend and see what he thinks of the landscape at the moment. He is a Mayo man so I'd say he is plugged in there.

I just don't think there is enough of an appetite for raw footage of games for these types of channels to stand alone, especially given our relatively small population and the lack of local broadcasting infrastructure.

And you could well be right. I think it's more attainable though, than some of the more 'optimistic' opinions on what RTE/EIR/TG4 could do in a very professional manner.

Club Faithful Facebook lived the O'Byrne Cup match v Dublin.
Supporters clubs could do it for all games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 08, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
It would seem that we (i.e. county boards, gaa and most of all those horrible c***ts at RTE) have now become guilty of not fully embracing as yet unavailable technology, to record dismal highlights of natches that nobody much really wants.

Syf why not just jump beyond automated cameraman, and devise a payment gateway to rent a share of someone's eyes from people who are at the match? Because all I'm getting from this thread is that everyone wants something different.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 11:35:57 PM
All everyone wants is a live feed being available from the countless games not being televised but being recorded anyways. Storing them is the simplest part of it all.

Can you not see the value for GAA supporters in having access to recordings of every televised match from the last 30-40 years? Currently there's an archive that no one has access to but that at least some would pay to have access to. As with all things, financial imperatives will be what make it happen.

Too many here are stuck in old ways and old media. The difference in technology in the last ten years has been breath-taking - in 2008 most people used feature phones while today everyone's mother carries around a supercomputer with 4G internet access and a camera that puts older DSLRs to shame. People watch more videos on Facebook, Netflix and YouTube than their TVs now.

Where do you think we will be in ten years? Because it damn sure isn't going to be where we are right now. The GAA can either face what's coming head on or it can wait until it's playing catch-up as usual.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on February 08, 2018, 11:52:36 PM
I certainly don't want to watch every game in the NFL or even the Championships whether on TV or the Syfīn nerdy super futuristic
Eyeball thingymajig.
Now a decent show on RTÉ that would end up with all NFL results and tables and a few minutes chat about Divs 3 and 4 would be just grand.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
Another top showing. Highlights from Dublin v Donegal  (eir sport), mayo v Galway  (tg4) and kildare v Tyrone  (tg4) and bizarrely Armagh v longford in div3 was only "new" footage. 3 Div 2 games ignored again. Pathetic. Next time I'm not going to watch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 11, 2018, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
Another top showing. Highlights from Dublin v Donegal  (eir sport), mayo v Galway  (tg4) and kildare v Tyrone  (tg4) and bizarrely Armagh v longford in div3 was only "new" footage. 3 Div 2 games ignored again. Pathetic. Next time I'm not going to watch.

I had a feeling that was going to happen when the Monaghan/Kerry game was called off. Probably just sent the camera crew to the nearest ground.

Easytiger will probably be along soon to put me right!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on February 11, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
I enjoyed the digs between Cavanagh and O'Shea. Didn't agree on much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: FermGael on February 11, 2018, 11:00:37 PM
Quote from: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
Another top showing. Highlights from Dublin v Donegal  (eir sport), mayo v Galway  (tg4) and kildare v Tyrone  (tg4) and bizarrely Armagh v longford in div3 was only "new" footage. 3 Div 2 games ignored again. Pathetic. Next time I'm not going to watch.

And they had highlights of the Armagh match because of the cameras that are installed in the Athletic grounds that are used for Armagh TV.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 08, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
It would seem that we (i.e. county boards, gaa and most of all those horrible c***ts at RTE) have now become guilty of not fully embracing as yet unavailable technology, to record dismal highlights of natches that nobody much really wants.

Syf why not just jump beyond automated cameraman, and devise a payment gateway to rent a share of someone's eyes from people who are at the match? Because all I'm getting from this thread is that everyone wants something different.

Don't be giving him ideas.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 11, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 08, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
It would seem that we (i.e. county boards, gaa and most of all those horrible c***ts at RTE) have now become guilty of not fully embracing as yet unavailable technology, to record dismal highlights of natches that nobody much really wants.

Syf why not just jump beyond automated cameraman, and devise a payment gateway to rent a share of someone's eyes from people who are at the match? Because all I'm getting from this thread is that everyone wants something different.

Don't be giving him ideas.

The irony is he's basically describing a subscription version of Google Glass, which is a five year old product. Elon Musk sent a car to Mars last week and some here think automated camera systems are outlandish..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:06:26 PM
So I could watch a match through your eyes and listen to the commentary through your ears with the technology available to us now?
What an age we live in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 12, 2018, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 08, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
It would seem that we (i.e. county boards, gaa and most of all those horrible c***ts at RTE) have now become guilty of not fully embracing as yet unavailable technology, to record dismal highlights of natches that nobody much really wants.

Syf why not just jump beyond automated cameraman, and devise a payment gateway to rent a share of someone's eyes from people who are at the match? Because all I'm getting from this thread is that everyone wants something different.

Don't be giving him ideas.

The irony is he's basically describing a subscription version of Google Glass, which is a five year old product. Elon Musk sent a car to Mars last week and some here think automated camera systems are outlandish..
Automated cameras are already used all over the world, but usually in much slower moving enviroments than live sporting events and under the supervision of camera operators and directors (it's a manpower thing, allows one man control more than one cam)
What you were suggesting was cameras with AI, which would cut out operators altogether. That is decades away, especially in the context of live sporting events.
The ignorance being displayed here is quite breathtaking, especially from people who are claiming knowledge of techology.
And finally, elon musk didn't send a car to mars. If it actually lands safely on the planet than you can say that, rather than being catapulted into space as a demonstration of Falcon Heavy's load capacity.
No doubt though, if it does land on the Red Planet, some here will be demanding that the dummy at the wheel send back coverage of any local junior B club games taking place there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on February 12, 2018, 12:32:40 AM
It looks like Tomas O'Shea actually isn't taking the time to watch some of the games that he's reflecting on and just reverts to cliche'd diatribe to get through his slot.  Disappointing.  Man, these TV licenses kill me...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 12, 2018, 12:45:48 AM
Quote from: easytiger95 on February 12, 2018, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 08, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
It would seem that we (i.e. county boards, gaa and most of all those horrible c***ts at RTE) have now become guilty of not fully embracing as yet unavailable technology, to record dismal highlights of natches that nobody much really wants.

Syf why not just jump beyond automated cameraman, and devise a payment gateway to rent a share of someone's eyes from people who are at the match? Because all I'm getting from this thread is that everyone wants something different.

Don't be giving him ideas.

The irony is he's basically describing a subscription version of Google Glass, which is a five year old product. Elon Musk sent a car to Mars last week and some here think automated camera systems are outlandish..
Automated cameras are already used all over the world, but usually in much slower moving enviroments than live sporting events and under the supervision of camera operators and directors (it's a manpower thing, allows one man control more than one cam)
What you were suggesting was cameras with AI, which would cut out operators altogether. That is decades away, especially in the context of live sporting events.
The ignorance being displayed here is quite breathtaking, especially from people who are claiming knowledge of techology.
And finally, elon musk didn't send a car to mars. If it actually lands safely on the planet than you can say that, rather than being catapulted into space as a demonstration of Falcon Heavy's load capacity.
No doubt though, if it does land on the Red Planet, some here will be demanding that the dummy at the wheel send back coverage of any local junior B club games taking place there.

The ignorance is thinking it's multiple decades away. I'm sorry if you can't see it from your industry but as someone who has a working knowledge of AI (and image recognition software, as it happens) it's pretty clear you're going to be utterly amazed by what's possible in 2028, nevermind 2038. AI is basically about feeding parameters into datasets, what to do when x happens, what not to do when y happens. The more data, the better the AI solutions will become.

Self-driving cars, automated cameras, trams, drone delivery, personal assistants, it will all start accelerating at an incredible pace because the underlying logic can be repurposed in a lot of ways. Trust me when I say that there are trillions and not billions in play with AI and IoT devices and what industries they will disrupt. Broadcasting is a speck dust in the wider context and it is one of the least immune to it if I'm being frank. Everyone thinks their job can't be automated until the moment it is. That to me is the arrogance in all this. Same story since beginning the industrial revolution.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on February 12, 2018, 01:45:28 AM
Let us just recap your ignorance

You suggested AI cameras were viable solutions for broadcasting now- i work in broadcasting- they are not

You suggested that a lack of an online repository of multiple club and intercounty games ( up the the thousands) is merely a result of ignorance and technophobia on the part of the broadcast industry in ireland, an industry you have never worked in - i do and it's not- it is a function of cost issues, scheduling issues and rights issues

Your continued suggestion that match coverage will be fully automated shows me that you have never set foot in an OB truck in your life, and have no concept of how that process actually works- if you did you would realise on site editorial decisions shape the coverage you watch today far more than technology and how technology has to be tailored to the subject being covered ( for reference you should look up some of the factors behind the failure of live 3d coverage of sports events during the last decade)

You also think elon musk sent a car to Mars

And whenever the inconsistencies in your arguments are pointed out, you change the subject and propose something else equally outlandish

I may not know the amount currently being invested in AI but i know this- if it looks like a spoofer, talks like a spoofer, sounds like a spoofer- it's a spoofer.

My only hope is that the silicon valley demigods you put so much faith in, might actually research the speck like industry you are saying they are going to disrupt, and come up with solutions that actually make sense when they do. Unlike yourself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2018, 08:49:54 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on February 12, 2018, 12:32:40 AM
It looks like Tomas O'Shea actually isn't taking the time to watch some of the games that he's reflecting on and just reverts to cliche'd diatribe to get through his slot.  Disappointing.  Man, these TV licenses kill me...

Lookit Des, I s'pose...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2018, 09:54:09 AM
Welcome to Syferworld Easy tiger  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 12, 2018, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:06:26 PM
So I could watch a match through your eyes and listen to the commentary through your ears with the technology available to us now?
What an age we live in.

You never know, you might be able to think what he thinks too. 🤤
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on February 12, 2018, 10:21:49 AM
Nearly choked on me tae when they showed a Div 3 match last night!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 12, 2018, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: Whishtup on February 12, 2018, 12:32:40 AM
It looks like Tomas O'Shea actually isn't taking the time to watch some of the games that he's reflecting on and just reverts to cliche'd diatribe to get through his slot.  Disappointing.  Man, these TV licenses kill me...

He said Kildare v Tyrone was a terrible game but by all account i heard it was very exciting with some good scores. I thought Sean Cavanagh had some homework done on what he was saying. Sure a Kerry man only needs a few cute hoor cliches and sure that will be grand altogether.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on February 12, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
It seems to me that there is a directly inverse relationship between the amount of analysis/homework done Vs the length of time on the panel.

Kavanagh being new to the panel feels like he has to do some work to warrant him getting the gig. Tomas is there a few years now so has realised rte will pay him the say regardless of how much prep work he does!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 12, 2018, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:06:26 PM
So I could watch a match through your eyes and listen to the commentary through your ears with the technology available to us now?
What an age we live in.

You never know, you might be able to think what he thinks too. 🤤

I don't think I've enough RAM.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: the goal was on on February 12, 2018, 01:17:40 PM
Sean Cav done his homework!! Sais flynn had no real impact when coming on for dublin the other night!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2018, 01:22:47 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 12, 2018, 01:06:47 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 12, 2018, 09:58:55 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 11:06:26 PM
So I could watch a match through your eyes and listen to the commentary through your ears with the technology available to us now?
What an age we live in.

You never know, you might be able to think what he thinks too. 🤤

I don't think I've enough RAM.
Add some JAM

https://youtu.be/I_2D8Eo15wE

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on February 12, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
was good to see a bit of our game on last night. And they even showed the div3/4 tables. Maybe they read this thread
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 12, 2018, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 12, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
was good to see a bit of our game on last night. And they even showed the div3/4 tables. Maybe they read this thread

Or maybe they had no footage due to cancelations, had to borrow Armagh TV footage and had to show the table to make the approach plausible. Lets see does another Div 3 match get shown for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2018, 10:52:53 AM
I hear Smug Jim is now refusing to talk to RTÉ.
I presume they'll have to stop all GAA coverage now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on February 14, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 14, 2018, 10:52:53 AM
I hear Smug Jim is now refusing to talk to RTÉ.
I presume they'll have to stop all GAA coverage now.

part of the process
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 14, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
If every single manager in the country stopped giving interviews it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on February 15, 2018, 02:25:38 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 14, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
If every single manager in the country stopped giving interviews it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Agreed. The way people get annoyed about media bans you'd think every county manager and footballer in the country was Jose mourinho.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 15, 2018, 09:27:27 AM
I genuinely don't think people get annoyed about media bans.
I think the media get annoyed about media bans.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 15, 2018, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on February 15, 2018, 09:27:27 AM
I genuinely don't think people get annoyed about media bans.
I think the media get annoyed about media bans.

If it helps reduce the potential for high profile managers sucking money out of county boards, then I agree, stop interviewing them, stop building them and their tactics up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on February 15, 2018, 09:56:19 AM
I'm a big fan of GAA players/managers doing proper in-depth interviews, particularly on the radio or in print.
The stuff that is said immediately pre and post-game on live TV/radio is of no interest to me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on February 15, 2018, 04:34:04 PM
The problem is that less Mickey and Jim means more Ó Sé, Dabollix etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on February 15, 2018, 04:42:11 PM
You say that as if Gavin is somehow an improvement. He's not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on February 15, 2018, 04:47:00 PM
I usually mute all interviews/punditry until the match starts. I just can't listen to all the tripe and shite talking

I can't even stand most of the commentary on matches, especially Ger Canning. The sooner there's a 'no commentary' option on matches, the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 17, 2018, 08:58:25 AM
Cost cutting

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rt-defends-donnybrookbased-commentaries-for-allianz-league-sunday-games-36613133.html


Compare tg4 v rte highlights show.(bottom of article)

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/281349

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on February 17, 2018, 01:20:40 PM
RTE have reported that the microphone used by the outside broadcast unit to catch the crowd noise at sports events is broken.
In order that the sports viewing public will not be inconvenienced, RTE have decided on an active course of progressive efficiency and will now used canned crowd noise in future.  Not just canned crowd noise but genuine crowd noise recorded on cassette tapes from the attendance at each county ground.
How will this work?
when Dublin play somewhere outside the pale, the commentator will have a cassette player on hand, when the Dubs score he will press the play button and loud genuine Heffo's Army grunts of delight will be heard in the background by viewers.

RTE sports will also employ special sound effects, e.g. when the Dubs have a free awarded against them, the commentator will press another button and the viewers will hear loud boos as the free taker embarks on his run up to kick the ball, not ordinary boos but genuine authentic Hill 16 boos recorded one All Ireland day. 
When Tyrone players walk off the pitch after a defeat, the commentator will  place 2 or 3  small stones in an empty vessel and give it a good rattle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on March 18, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
Watching League Sunday and wondering how is Pat Spillane still getting a gig. Marty Clarke young and fresh. To top it off went to add break with Justin Timberlake playing as a complete contrast to the old tired cliched Kerry lad. I know Lyster still there but he retiring.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on March 18, 2018, 11:10:25 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 18, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
Watching League Sunday and wondering how is Pat Spillane still getting a gig. Marty Clarke young and fresh. To top it off went to add break with Justin Timberlake playing as a complete contrast to the old tired cliched Kerry lad. I know Lyster still there but he retiring.

Brushed over the Moran incident but its a different story on social media with many calling for a 3 month ban similar to Connolly last year. Very similar incidents except maybe more contact today - today's issue was dealt with on the field with a black while Connolly's wasn't. This one could grow legs.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 21, 2018, 10:13:36 PM
I'm just wondering what the over-under is on the number of times Clarke mentions he was in Australia, because it seems like it's going to be quite high.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on March 21, 2018, 10:30:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 21, 2018, 10:13:36 PM
I'm just wondering what the over-under is on the number of times Clarke mentions he was in Australia, because it seems like it's going to be quite high.

I agree with you there.  I think we will gave a pain in the ring of Marty by seasons end
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on March 22, 2018, 05:03:08 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 18, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
Watching League Sunday and wondering how is Pat Spillane still getting a gig. Marty Clarke young and fresh. To top it off went to add break with Justin Timberlake playing as a complete contrast to the old tired cliched Kerry lad. I know Lyster still there but he retiring.

I know. The contrast in ages was very stark. Maybe it was the shiny & overly coiffed birds nest on top of MC's head, that stood out so much, in contrast to Spillane's grey head, that made me think of what an old, out dated geezer PS is. ( I'm not normally so shallow.  :P ) But the age gap was very apparent. Am not being deliberatley age-ist, but if Spillane's so called analysis wasn't as woeful as it is, we wouldn't have such a problem with the age contrast. It is, so we do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on March 22, 2018, 09:40:44 PM
If ever a man needed a championship haircut.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on March 27, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
Just to go back to our conversation of a month ago or so - TG4 showing 7, count em, 7 live games this weekend. How are they managing to do this? Fair play to them. Hand it all over to them I say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on March 27, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.

It benefits everyone who wants to see the games but can't/won't attend.
RTE have never shown any interest in the league, so give credit to TG4 - without them you wouldn't see any of those games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:37:22 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 27, 2018, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.

It benefits everyone who wants to see the games but can't/won't attend.
RTE have never shown any interest in the league, so give credit to TG4 - without them you wouldn't see any of those games.

I'm glad they're doing it, but literally any other FTA station would benefit the viewer and the GAA more to be doing it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 05:43:55 PM
Can you just stop being an an anti Irish arsehole for 1 fkn day.
Fair play to TG4 and anyone schooled in the 26 Cos should be well able to grasp the commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: APM on March 27, 2018, 05:46:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.

Possibly one of the stupidest posts I've ever read. 



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2018, 05:54:18 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 27, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
Just to go back to our conversation of a month ago or so - TG4 showing 7, count em, 7 live games this weekend. How are they managing to do this? Fair play to them. Hand it all over to them I say.

RTE are an embarrassment their highlights show was beyond dung on Sunday. There were 3 three key games in the top two divisions last weekend. Mayo v Donegal, Cavan v Tipp and Down v Meath. You could argue Ros v Cork too. We got mayo v Donegal fair enough. 60 seconds of cavan v Tipp and nothing from Meath game. 60 seconds on Ros game. Then the 5 mins of analysis. Cavan did great to get back up, arra  arra arra, great u21 teams arra arra arra. Tremendous. Tomas o se a joke of an analyst and Whelan only slightly ahead. Lazy lazy shite. Yet Dublin v monaghan, a dead rubber gets premium attention. Thank God for tg4.

The GAA need to wise up and flex their muscles. I'd be quite happy if they gave the whole league to tg4 or split between tg4 and sky. People need to grasp something, to the majority of counties the league is the most important competition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on March 27, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
The analysis of Cavan Tipp was mainly O Se talking about the Munster Championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2018, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 27, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
The analysis of Cavan Tipp was mainly O Se talking about the Munster Championship.

Aye but the analysis was "Tipp are good, will be a threat to cork and Kerry arra arra arra. Tipp wear blue jerseys. Tipp are good at hurling. Fair play to them. Arra arra arra."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 06:02:44 PM
I remember when ye thought Tomas was God's gift when he arrived first.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 06:02:44 PM
I remember when ye thought Tomas was God's gift when he arrived first.

Well he's better than you I suppose
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on March 27, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 06:02:44 PM
I remember when ye thought Tomas was God's gift when he arrived first.

Ah Plámás started of telling of his experiences with tales. Now he seems to be just a puppet for the Kerry media mafia. Now it's Yerra Yerra Yerra! Whealan is there for the Dublin media mafia!

Kerry media mafia will over the next 5 months will hope that anyone (even Cork or Tyrone) will stop Dublin doing 4 in a row if they can't.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 27, 2018, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 06:02:44 PM
I remember when ye thought Tomas was God's gift when he arrived first.

Ah Plámás started of telling of his experiences with tales. Now he seems to be just a puppet for the Kerry media mafia. Now it's Yerra Yerra Yerra! Whealan is there for the Dublin media mafia!

Kerry media mafia will over the next 5 months will hope that anyone (even Cork or Tyrone) will stop Dublin doing 4 in a row if they can't.


I wouldn't limit that to the Dublin media mafia, that would be most of the country! I couldn't care less who wins the AI this year as long as it's not Dublin or Armagh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laoislad on March 27, 2018, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 27, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
Just to go back to our conversation of a month ago or so - TG4 showing 7, count em, 7 live games this weekend. How are they managing to do this? Fair play to them. Hand it all over to them I say.
RTE more interested in showing womens feckin rugby...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.
Nach mór an trua.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 27, 2018, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 27, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
Just to go back to our conversation of a month ago or so - TG4 showing 7, count em, 7 live games this weekend. How are they managing to do this? Fair play to them. Hand it all over to them I say.
Once again fair play to TG4 and I agree hand it over to them. RTE biased heads will still tell us TG4 only cover the games that nobody else wants to cover  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on March 27, 2018, 09:37:25 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 27, 2018, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 27, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
Just to go back to our conversation of a month ago or so - TG4 showing 7, count em, 7 live games this weekend. How are they managing to do this? Fair play to them. Hand it all over to them I say.
Once again fair play to TG4 and I agree hand it over to them. RTE biased heads will still tell us TG4 only cover the games that nobody else wants to cover  ::)

And RTE want to only show games based on ratings. Care little for product and consumer. And then charge us 160 euro for pleasure which is probably going to increase.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on March 28, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2018, 06:00:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 27, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
The analysis of Cavan Tipp was mainly O Se talking about the Munster Championship.

Aye but the analysis was "Tipp are good, will be a threat to cork and Kerry arra arra arra. Tipp wear blue jerseys. Tipp are good at hurling. Fair play to them. Arra arra arra."

Just watched it last night, how Tomas O Se is getting paid to do that gig beggars belief.
It seemed like he just showed up watched it like everybody else, threw out the usual amount of clichés and other shite, ( a few, Look I suppose's)
He probably spent more time, putting that "outfit on" that doing any research.
when they interview candidates for these positions, what kind of a screening process do they use.
I have said it before, he was a great footballer, but pathetic as an analyst.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
Being hostage? It's the only f**king station that will show it.

I think it's absolutely no harm. If you want to watch it, and can't stand the Irish for some reason, then turn it down. If you need Ger Canning rabbiting on about a huge one in to enjoy it, then you have bigger issues.

If you do watch it in Irish, then what's the worst that can happen? You pick up a cúpla focail and how bad is that?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
Being hostage? It's the only f**king station that will show it.

I think it's absolutely no harm. If you want to watch it, and can't stand the Irish for some reason, then turn it down. If you need Ger Canning rabbiting on about a huge one in to enjoy it, then you have bigger issues.

If you do watch it in Irish, then what's the worst that can happen? You pick up a cúpla focail and how bad is that?

You think little Jimmy who's flicking between channels of a Sunday afternoon is more likely to stick on the station talking in some weird language or the one that's in English? TG4 plays to the converted and no one else. The GAA should not be content with the fact most of their games are on that station. It really is as simple as that - things could be better if there was enough of a will.

This is an area where more comericialism should be welcomed, to be honest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on March 28, 2018, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

First world problems and then some. Typical of a quisling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
If TG4 are the only station willing to show the games, then I don't think you should be criticising their choice to show them in Irish, in an Irish language channel! As I said, I think it's absolutely no harm. TG4 give us a service that was unheard of 20 years ago.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on March 28, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
Being hostage? It's the only f**king station that will show it.

I think it's absolutely no harm. If you want to watch it, and can't stand the Irish for some reason, then turn it down. If you need Ger Canning rabbiting on about a huge one in to enjoy it, then you have bigger issues.

If you do watch it in Irish, then what's the worst that can happen? You pick up a cúpla focail and how bad is that?

You think little Jimmy who's flicking between channels of a Sunday afternoon is more likely to stick on the station talking in some weird language or the one that's in English? TG4 plays to the converted and no one else. The GAA should not be content with the fact most of their games are on that station. It really is as simple as that - things could be better if there was enough of a will.

This is an area where more comericialism should be welcomed, to be honest.

Why would you be concerned about little Jimmy, a minute ago it was my sport being held hostage, now its little Jimmy you're wittering on about?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
If TG4 are the only station willing to show the games, then I don't think you should be criticising their choice to show them in Irish, in an Irish language channel! As I said, I think it's absolutely no harm. TG4 give us a service that was unheard of 20 years ago.

You say it like the GAA has no leverage. You bundle the games with the championship games RTE/TV3 are desperate for. That's how it works in every other sport in the world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on March 28, 2018, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
If TG4 are the only station willing to show the games, then I don't think you should be criticising their choice to show them in Irish, in an Irish language channel! As I said, I think it's absolutely no harm. TG4 give us a service that was unheard of 20 years ago.

You say it like the GAA has no leverage. You bundle the games with the championship games RTE/TV3 are desperate for. That's how it works in every other sport in the world.

You say it like a man that expects to be consulted by the GAA. Quisling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 28, 2018, 05:05:29 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:37:19 PM
If TG4 are the only station willing to show the games, then I don't think you should be criticising their choice to show them in Irish, in an Irish language channel! As I said, I think it's absolutely no harm. TG4 give us a service that was unheard of 20 years ago.
Agreed 100% TG4 doing a great job and should be commended for that. If you go to a match you don't have running English commentary as you watch it live. Most games i watch on RTE with Ger Canning,Tommy Carr etc i have to mute it and don't get my started on their pre and post match woeful analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Mick on March 28, 2018, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
Being hostage? It's the only f**king station that will show it.

I think it's absolutely no harm. If you want to watch it, and can't stand the Irish for some reason, then turn it down. If you need Ger Canning rabbiting on about a huge one in to enjoy it, then you have bigger issues.

If you do watch it in Irish, then what's the worst that can happen? You pick up a cúpla focail and how bad is that?

You think little Jimmy who's flicking between channels of a Sunday afternoon is more likely to stick on the station talking in some weird language or the one that's in English? TG4 plays to the converted and no one else. The GAA should not be content with the fact most of their games are on that station. It really is as simple as that - things could be better if there was enough of a will.

This is an area where more comericialism should be welcomed, to be honest.

Hello little Jimmy! You will learn this weird language when you go to school.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tommysmith on March 28, 2018, 06:37:12 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on March 28, 2018, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 28, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
Being hostage? It's the only f**king station that will show it.

I think it's absolutely no harm. If you want to watch it, and can't stand the Irish for some reason, then turn it down. If you need Ger Canning rabbiting on about a huge one in to enjoy it, then you have bigger issues.

If you do watch it in Irish, then what's the worst that can happen? You pick up a cúpla focail and how bad is that?

You think little Jimmy who's flicking between channels of a Sunday afternoon is more likely to stick on the station talking in some weird language or the one that's in English? TG4 plays to the converted and no one else. The GAA should not be content with the fact most of their games are on that station. It really is as simple as that - things could be better if there was enough of a will.

This is an area where more comericialism should be welcomed, to be honest.

Hello little Jimmy! You will learn this weird language when you go to school.

Can anyone tell me how to block little Jimmy.

I
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on March 28, 2018, 06:43:35 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 28, 2018, 07:49:59 PM
You'll still see things the person you've blocked posts if he's quoted though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on March 28, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

i wonder why all the gaelscoileanna continue to open in all major urban areas Syf ????

I suppose you have a similar opinion of hurling in 20 counties also
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on March 28, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

i wonder why all the gaelscoileanna continue to open in all major urban areas Syf ????

I suppose you have a similar opinion of hurling in 20 counties also

We could have an entire thread about parents and their schooling decisions. Needless to say it has had little impact on the success or failure of the language.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on March 28, 2018, 09:31:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on March 28, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

i wonder why all the gaelscoileanna continue to open in all major urban areas Syf ????

I suppose you have a similar opinion of hurling in 20 counties also

We could have an entire thread about parents and their schooling decisions. Needless to say it has had little impact on the success or failure of the language.

No instead we will have an entire thread of you talking total shite agsin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on March 28, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on March 28, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

i wonder why all the gaelscoileanna continue to open in all major urban areas Syf ????

I suppose you have a similar opinion of hurling in 20 counties also

We could have an entire thread about parents and their schooling decisions. Needless to say it has had little impact on the success or failure of the language.

Yes, yes. Needless to say children being educated through the Irish language will have little impact on how many people can speak the language.
You talk shite on a constant basis, but this is particularly scuttery!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 28, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on March 28, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

i wonder why all the gaelscoileanna continue to open in all major urban areas Syf ????

I suppose you have a similar opinion of hurling in 20 counties also

We could have an entire thread about parents and their schooling decisions. Needless to say it has had little impact on the success or failure of the language.

Yes, yes. Needless to say children being educated through the Irish language will have little impact on how many people can speak the language.
You talk shite on a constant basis, but this is particularly scuttery!

Every person who has went through the Irish school system should be able to speak it. Speaking Irish doesn't solve the problem that nearly no one uses it in their day to day lives. That's the reason it's as useful to know as something like Latin. I'd sooner be teaching our children how to speak simplified Chinese in school if the intent is to teach them something that will be useful in their lives.

We spend way too much time trying to keep Irish on life support. She's dead, Jim.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on March 28, 2018, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
Every person who has went through the Irish school system should be able to speak it. Speaking Irish doesn't solve the problem that nearly no one uses it in their day to day lives. That's the reason it's as useful to know as something like Latin. I'd sooner be teaching our children how to speak simplified Chinese in school if the intent is to teach them something that will be useful in their lives.

We spend way too much time trying to keep Irish on life support. She's dead, Jim.

Quisling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Therealdonald on March 29, 2018, 12:54:35 AM
Quote from: tiempo on March 28, 2018, 11:41:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
Every person who has went through the Irish school system should be able to speak it. Speaking Irish doesn't solve the problem that nearly no one uses it in their day to day lives. That's the reason it's as useful to know as something like Latin. I'd sooner be teaching our children how to speak simplified Chinese in school if the intent is to teach them something that will be useful in their lives.

We spend way too much time trying to keep Irish on life support. She's dead, Jim.

Quisling.

Lundy
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on March 29, 2018, 08:45:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on March 28, 2018, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on March 28, 2018, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 28, 2018, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 07:04:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 05:21:06 PM
I wish RTE would just get off their arses and do it. The Irish language stuff is still a massive bore on TG4 and severely limits the audience too. Benefits no one.
Dar leat ach ni thuigeann tú
Níl aon  tuiscint  ag an plaidhc faoi aon rud nach tháinig as Ríomhaire.

Mise Rossfan agus is  mór mo náir
Is as Ros  Syfīn an phlaidhc mí chiallmhar.

"Zzzzzzzzz"

Hope I don't have to translate that into a dead language for you.
Dr. Hyde would be proud of you.

I couldn't care less if some lad who is long dead would be proud or not. We're in the hear and now and have to choose our own path.

The battle to make Irish a vibrant language was lost a long time ago. Most Irish people have no interest in the language (despite being force-fed it from ages 5-18) and Gaeltachts have shrank to minuscule sizes over the last two centuries.

I have no issue with those that care doing their best for the langauge, but my sport being held hostage from September to May every year to it on a TV station that literally only can preach to the converted has always been troubling. The GAA needs to grow its reach in other communities and if you think there's many ethic minorities or even non-catholics watching TG4 you're solely mistaken.

Sin é indeed.

i wonder why all the gaelscoileanna continue to open in all major urban areas Syf ????

I suppose you have a similar opinion of hurling in 20 counties also

We could have an entire thread about parents and their schooling decisions. Needless to say it has had little impact on the success or failure of the language.

Yes, yes. Needless to say children being educated through the Irish language will have little impact on how many people can speak the language.
You talk shite on a constant basis, but this is particularly scuttery!

Every person who has went through the Irish school system should be able to speak it. Speaking Irish doesn't solve the problem that nearly no one uses it in their day to day lives. That's the reason it's as useful to know as something like Latin. I'd sooner be teaching our children how to speak simplified Chinese in school if the intent is to teach them something that will be useful in their lives.

We spend way too much time trying to keep Irish on life support. She's dead, Jim.

:-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on March 29, 2018, 08:58:41 AM
Obviously teaching English hasn't worked to well in Syfīn's case.
His anti Gaeilge diatribe should have started with ".....who has gone...."
He went
He has gone
Terrible how stupid some know alls can be.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on March 29, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
Magpie Seanie - the reason they can show 7 game live is because of the weather and fixtures mess - the games that were cancelled, they would have still retained the rights to broadcast on a refixed date, and they simply shunted their expenditure to the next week. The real bravery is giving over so much of the schedule to it and fair dues to them for doing it.

Also, AZ, just a bit of a pedant's point here - when TG4 first started doing the League and club games, you are quite correct, no one else wanted them. However, over the past few rights auctions, they have had competing bids for those packages - but of course, that is only because TG4 realised and showed the worth of them over the past nearly 2(??!!!) decades. Christ I'm getting old.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 29, 2018, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2018, 08:58:41 AM
Obviously teaching English hasn't worked to well in Syfīn's case.
His anti Gaeilge diatribe should have started with ".....who has gone...."
He went
He has gone
Terrible how stupid some know alls can be.
;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on March 29, 2018, 12:33:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 29, 2018, 08:58:41 AM
Obviously teaching English hasn't worked to well in Syfīn's case.
His anti Gaeilge diatribe should have started with ".....who has gone...."
He went
He has gone
Terrible how stupid some know alls can be.
Gô  bhfóire Dia orainn.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on March 29, 2018, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on March 29, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
Magpie Seanie - the reason they can show 7 game live is because of the weather and fixtures mess - the games that were cancelled, they would have still retained the rights to broadcast on a refixed date, and they simply shunted their expenditure to the next week. The real bravery is giving over so much of the schedule to it and fair dues to them for doing it.


It's hardly all that brave of TG4 given their GAA coverage is consistently the most popular thing they broadcast.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 20, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/we-still-dont-know-where-the-cameras-will-be-rolling-469687.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on April 20, 2018, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 20, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/we-still-dont-know-where-the-cameras-will-be-rolling-469687.html

I'd say most people don't really care that the schedule has yet to be finalised. Of all the sticks we have to beat RTÉ with this is the smallest. I'm sure most of the matches we give a shite about watching will be televised. Will all the Ulster championship matches he available on bbc ni once again?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on April 20, 2018, 07:39:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on April 20, 2018, 01:58:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 20, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/we-still-dont-know-where-the-cameras-will-be-rolling-469687.html

I'd say most people don't really care that the schedule has yet to be finalised. Of all the sticks we have to beat RTÉ with this is the smallest. I'm sure most of the matches we give a shite about watching will be televised. Will all the Ulster championship matches he available on bbc ni once again?

Some people will care when they find out their county games isn't being broadcast; not enough to actually go to the game mind but enough to complain.

I think the BBC NI TV contract runs for the same period as the other GAA TV contracts.

I wonder will any of the other TV stations manage to match TG4's revolutionary picture-in-picture for kickouts. Knowing BBC NI they would probably use it to show 2 different crowd shots at the same time.

Also I wouldn't bet against some manager giving out about the qualifiers being "disrespected" by the television companies at some stage this summer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on April 21, 2018, 12:45:05 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 20, 2018, 07:39:27 PM

Some people will care when they find out their county games isn't being broadcast; not enough to actually go to the game mind but enough to complain.


Jesus if thats true it's the saddest indictment of modern society yet.

People are annoyed enough to complain but not annoyed enough to do anything about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on April 21, 2018, 01:42:37 AM
Quote from: trileacman on April 21, 2018, 12:45:05 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on April 20, 2018, 07:39:27 PM

Some people will care when they find out their county games isn't being broadcast; not enough to actually go to the game mind but enough to complain.


Jesus if thats true it's the saddest indictment of modern society yet.

People are annoyed enough to complain but not annoyed enough to do anything about it.

Sounds like the Sinn Fein approach to politics.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Oh dear.....
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/bbc-ni-to-lose-most-of-their-ulster-championship-games-1.3471757?mode=amp
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on April 24, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Oh dear.....
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/bbc-ni-to-lose-most-of-their-ulster-championship-games-1.3471757?mode=amp

A real gear grinder. So that's both Sly Sports (who are dropping most of their exclusive qualifier games in pref of super 8) and RTE going gung-ho with the Super 8 games. And it's only the start of things to come !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 24, 2018, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 24, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Oh dear.....
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/bbc-ni-to-lose-most-of-their-ulster-championship-games-1.3471757?mode=amp

A real gear grinder. So that's both Sly Sports (who are dropping most of their exclusive qualifier games in pref of super 8) and RTE going gung-ho with the Super 8 games. And it's only the start of things to come !
No doubt with the subtle approval of those who matter in HQ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on April 24, 2018, 05:14:34 PM
An inevitable consequence of the super 8's.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Who wants to watch some hurling round robin match
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Who wants to watch some hurling round robin match
Lots of people I would think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on April 24, 2018, 05:52:05 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 24, 2018, 03:02:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
Oh dear.....
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/bbc-ni-to-lose-most-of-their-ulster-championship-games-1.3471757?mode=amp

A real gear grinder. So that's both Sly Sports (who are dropping most of their exclusive qualifier games in pref of super 8) and RTE going gung-ho with the Super 8 games. And it's only the start of things to come !

I wonder how much publicity the B Championship would get if this is how provincial championships will now be treated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:54:42 PM
Every Ulster game was shown last year. Not showing Cavan Donegal is one thing but to not televise Monaghan Tyrone is criminal, its also basically destroys BBC NIs Gaa coverage entirely 

Im sure though we'll get to see the Dubs hammer Wiclow or Offaly in some farce "match" for the greater good
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 24, 2018, 05:55:37 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Who wants to watch some hurling round robin match
Lots of people I would think.

Depends. If the top 2 places are known early on in both championships, which could happen then round 5 mightn't be appealing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:59:06 PM
So we won't get to see Carlow v Louth!?

Seriously I would have expected a revision of the TV deals following the change of Championship formats.

Farr -Round 5 would be a virtual  knock out round as the 3rd team goes through.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on April 24, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Who wants to watch some hurling round robin match
Lots of people I would think.
Nah
The current hurling format is a mess thrown together to rival super 8s
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 24, 2018, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:59:06 PM
So we won't get to see Carlow v Louth!?

Seriously I would have expected a revision of the TV deals following the change of Championship formats.

Farr -Round 5 would be a virtual  knock out round as the 3rd team goes through.
Probably weren't going to anyway, but there may be some reasonably interesting clashes ignored because the last 8 razzle dazzle is all that matters to HQ and the media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 06:48:52 PM
Media always concentrate on what attracts most public interest.
Poor oul Carlow v Louth won't interest more than 5% of the population of the 2 Counties themselves never mind the rest if the Country.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on April 25, 2018, 08:36:24 AM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Who wants to watch some hurling round robin match
Lots of people I would think.
Nah
The current hurling format is a mess thrown together to rival super 8s

Don't agree to an extent.

Yes it was probably set up to rival the Super 8's, but in all honesty I think the Munster Round Robin will be full blown, no holds barred stuff as any of the 5 can be each other on a given day.
Leinster is a bit more predictable in that regard especially with Dublin a bit off the pace.

GAA needs to offer a package with X number of lower level games and Y number of higher level games, You don't get the package unless you show both.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 25, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 25, 2018, 08:36:24 AM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 24, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 24, 2018, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 24, 2018, 05:34:10 PM
Who wants to look at Ulster football?😉
Who wants to watch some hurling round robin match
Lots of people I would think.
Nah
The current hurling format is a mess thrown together to rival super 8s

Don't agree to an extent.

Yes it was probably set up to rival the Super 8's, but in all honesty I think the Munster Round Robin will be full blown, no holds barred stuff as any of the 5 can be each other on a given day.
Leinster is a bit more predictable in that regard especially with Dublin a bit off the pace.

GAA needs to offer a package with X number of lower level games and Y number of higher level games, You don't get the package unless you show both.
I think the new hurling format is sensible in theory, though unfortunately it cuts out Laois (first time ever not in the SHC?), Carlow etc. And that the bottom Leinster team (Offaly) would go down but if Kerry were to go up it'd require a playoff with the bottom Munster team, if I have it right, is rather unfair but typical of the hoops that those outside the big teams are made to jump through to be allowed be at the party, but at least the round-robin element is contained within the provincial system and it builds up towards the knockout system, with everyone having had a fair go.

How the round-robin has come into football is ridiculous and motivated by the wrong reasons, if groups had to come into the SFC I'd either have used them within the provinces (kick NY out of Connacht and you'd have groups of 6 in Connacht/Munster, 6/5 Leinster and 5/4 Ulster) or to replace the first round of the qualifiers. But the way it is going to be underlines that in HQ's eyes the likes of us don't really matter and are a nuisance to be put up with for a month or so and no more.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 25, 2018, 09:41:53 AM
Well said OMS. I cannot fathom how county boards were swayed so easily by Duffy's tour of the country last year when pushing it through. For those in favour of having more games to find out who the best team is, we get that all the time anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
7 County Boards are only interested in Hurling
10 or 12 felt they'd  get to the last 8 regularly and get a big €€ game at home.
Others no doubt saw extra income for the GAA so more available for Co. Boards.
Maybe Messrs Duffy and Ó Fearghail are good salesmen.

As for the Hurley stuff's new system -one flaw is that the 4th and 5th teams in Munster would nearly always beat the 3rd team in Leinster, yet they won't get a shot at Liam due to the Provincial straitjacket.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on April 25, 2018, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
7 County Boards are only interested in Hurling
10 or 12 felt they'd  get to the last 8 regularly and get a big €€ game at home.
Others no doubt saw extra income for the GAA so more available for Co. Boards.
Maybe Messrs Duffy and Ó Fearghail are good salesmen.

As for the Hurley stuff's new system -one flaw is that the 4th and 5th teams in Munster would nearly always beat the 3rd team in Leinster, yet they won't get a shot at Liam due to the Provincial straitjacket.

Considering a lot of CB's have spent money they don't have to develop stadiums I'd say they jumped at the change to Super 8's and the hurling round robins in the hope that it'll mean more revenue for them irrespective of the impact it will have on their clubs.

Hurling wise I can see this being a step in the direction of moving away from the Provincial championships to a more open draw type scenario as the round robin system beds in. The Provincial councils will lose control and that's not a bad thing for hurling.

Westmeath, Laois, Carlow, Kerry, Antrim are regularly screwed over by the powers that be in hurling, so it is no suprise there. Par for the course.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tippabu on April 25, 2018, 09:06:58 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 25, 2018, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
7 County Boards are only interested in Hurling
10 or 12 felt they'd  get to the last 8 regularly and get a big €€ game at home.
Others no doubt saw extra income for the GAA so more available for Co. Boards.
Maybe Messrs Duffy and Ó Fearghail are good salesmen.

As for the Hurley stuff's new system -one flaw is that the 4th and 5th teams in Munster would nearly always beat the 3rd team in Leinster, yet they won't get a shot at Liam due to the Provincial straitjacket.

Considering a lot of CB's have spent money they don't have to develop stadiums I'd say they jumped at the change to Super 8's and the hurling round robins in the hope that it'll mean more revenue for them irrespective of the impact it will have on their clubs.

Hurling wise I can see this being a step in the direction of moving away from the Provincial championships to a more open draw type scenario as the round robin system beds in. The Provincial councils will lose control and that's not a bad thing for hurling.

Westmeath, Laois, Carlow, Kerry, Antrim are regularly screwed over by the powers that be in hurling, so it is no suprise there. Par for the course.

the hurling is an absolute joke, whoever finishes last in leinster is relegated and winner of the joe mcdonagh go up however if kerry win the joe mcdonagh there is a playoff with the last team in munster. why is one straight forward and one the need of a playoff. is it a case where super 8's and hurling format that they want the rich to get richer and the poor get poorer (not a dublin reference;))
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on April 25, 2018, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: tippabu on April 25, 2018, 09:06:58 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 25, 2018, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
7 County Boards are only interested in Hurling
10 or 12 felt they'd  get to the last 8 regularly and get a big €€ game at home.
Others no doubt saw extra income for the GAA so more available for Co. Boards.
Maybe Messrs Duffy and Ó Fearghail are good salesmen.

As for the Hurley stuff's new system -one flaw is that the 4th and 5th teams in Munster would nearly always beat the 3rd team in Leinster, yet they won't get a shot at Liam due to the Provincial straitjacket.

Considering a lot of CB's have spent money they don't have to develop stadiums I'd say they jumped at the change to Super 8's and the hurling round robins in the hope that it'll mean more revenue for them irrespective of the impact it will have on their clubs.

Hurling wise I can see this being a step in the direction of moving away from the Provincial championships to a more open draw type scenario as the round robin system beds in. The Provincial councils will lose control and that's not a bad thing for hurling.

Westmeath, Laois, Carlow, Kerry, Antrim are regularly screwed over by the powers that be in hurling, so it is no suprise there. Par for the course.

the hurling is an absolute joke, whoever finishes last in leinster is relegated and winner of the joe mcdonagh go up however if kerry win the joe mcdonagh there is a playoff with the last team in munster. why is one straight forward and one the need of a playoff. is it a case where super 8's and hurling format that they want the rich to get richer and the poor get poorer (not a dublin reference;))
Aye only 10 teams in the Liam Mccarthy  plus the 2 from McDonagh.Its a closed shop and thats the way they like it, so much for All Ireland. Its the early stages but the football HQ and Dubs will push for tiered also. Theyve already decided to stop televising smaller counties.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 11:43:47 PM
When did "they" televise smaller Counties?
When were there 32 teams competing for Liam McCarthy?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 26, 2018, 08:18:24 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 11:43:47 PM
When did "they" televise smaller Counties?
When were there 32 teams competing for Liam McCarthy?

But poor old Michael Duignan's 132 year old grandad won't get to see the games....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on April 26, 2018, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on April 26, 2018, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 25, 2018, 11:43:47 PM
When did "they" televise smaller Counties?
When were there 32 teams competing for Liam McCarthy?
That was in reference to football. Best keep trying on that comprehension, I know its hard for you thickos from Roscommon but maybe some day ye won't continually make a fool of yourselves on here.

when did 32 counties compete for sam then as opposed to taking part ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 26, 2018, 02:55:19 PM
The full moon must have gone back in its box.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 06, 2018, 10:31:53 PM
3 games in the All Ireland hurling championship this weekend. Not one minute shown on TSG. 2 Connacht Senior Football games. I'd say 5 minutes total pictures. All so Gobshite Cahill and co could spend an hour telling us that Dublin will win the football, and Tipp or Galway will probably win the hurling. f**king joke shop.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 06, 2018, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 06, 2018, 10:31:53 PM
3 games in the All Ireland hurling championship this weekend. Not one minute shown on TSG. 2 Connacht Senior Football games. I'd say 5 minutes total pictures. All so Gobshite Cahill and co could spend an hour telling us that Dublin will win the football, and Tipp or Galway will probably win the hurling. f**king joke shop.

So long as Des has 'banter' with the boys. God forbid we'd get any proper previews.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 06, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Didn't even watch it. Waste of time run by a bunch of bluffers
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Didn't even watch it. Waste of time run by a bunch of bluffers

What is it like being a miserable git the whole time?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tippabu on May 07, 2018, 12:51:01 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Didn't even watch it. Waste of time run by a bunch of bluffers

What is it like being a miserable git the whole time?

is he wrong? I watched it and it was a waste of time, it was brutal and to call it a preview show was very much a stretch
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 10:03:46 AM
Didn't watch it thankfully.
Sounds as if it was as bad as I'd expected.
If only TG4 would bring back Seó Spóirt or a GAA version if it at least.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Didn't even watch it. Waste of time run by a bunch of bluffers

What is it like being a miserable git the whole time?

Rather be miserable than despised as a moron by everyone else on the board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Smurfy123 on May 07, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Great to see it back
But by god Sean Cavanagh is a terrible pundit
Great player one of the best that ever put a pair of boots on
But he is a very very poor pundit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 05:33:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 10:53:32 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 12:29:18 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 06, 2018, 11:46:18 PM
Didn't even watch it. Waste of time run by a bunch of bluffers

What is it like being a miserable git the whole time?

Rather be miserable than despised as a moron by everyone else on the board.

You don't really seem to have much sense of perspective.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 07, 2018, 09:43:02 PM
RTE used to be pretty good at making promos for the start of the championship.
In recent years they seem to have adopted a template whereby they use boring footage, boring music and some generic voiceover about stuff like 'passion', 'this is who we are', and other such focus group driven b*ll*x.
They really do phone in their GAA coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on May 08, 2018, 09:50:51 AM
It's strange that those who criticise the GAA for using other broadcasters (and strangely and coincidentally are on the RTE payroll) never call out RTE for their awful coverage.  No money to bid properly for more GAA games, their League Sunday coverage is a sick joke yet they are covering that royal wedding thing in London.  And not a peep from our otherwise quite vociferous 'commentators' who usually have quite a lot to say about old pensioners not being able to watch GAA due to pesky SKY etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on May 08, 2018, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 07, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Great to see it back
But by god Sean Cavanagh is a terrible pundit
Great player one of the best that ever put a pair of boots on
But he is a very very poor pundit

Agreed - I hope they don't use him all year - could be a case of two fingers up to Mickey rather than getting the best pundits in. Jordan/McGinley/McGuigan the best pundits of the ex Tyrone players.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Cian Ward is the best football analyst knocking around at the moment but he works better on the radio/podcast where he actually has time to speak.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Cian Ward is the best football analyst knocking around at the moment but he works better on the radio/podcast where he actually has time to speak.

I like Anthony Moyles as well, they have no agenda, just articulate analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on May 08, 2018, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Cian Ward is the best football analyst knocking around at the moment but he works better on the radio/podcast where he actually has time to speak.

I like Anthony Moyles as well, they have no agenda, just articulate analysis.

Anthony Moyles one of the top guys in the CPA has no agenda. really?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 08, 2018, 10:32:34 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Cian Ward is the best football analyst knocking around at the moment but he works better on the radio/podcast where he actually has time to speak.

I like Anthony Moyles as well, they have no agenda, just articulate analysis.

Anthony Moyles one of the top guys in the CPA has no agenda. really?

Wtf has the CPA got to do with analyzing inter-county football matches?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 12:20:27 PM
"He kicked a poor wide there. I blame the lack of regular club fixtures."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 08, 2018, 12:53:06 PM
Just hire Cake full time. If you're going to have half the audience whining about you regardless  it may as well be someone who can play the panthomine villain well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 08, 2018, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 12:20:27 PM
"He kicked a poor wide there. I blame the lack of regular club fixtures."
;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2018, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 08, 2018, 12:53:06 PM
Just hire Cake full time. If you're going to have half the audience whining about you regardless  it may as well be someone who can play the panthomine villain well.

That'd be good. Leaving cert students could watch to fine-tune their trigonometry skills
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on May 08, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
I think  Cavanagh has potential to be controversial and say interesting things. Himself and Ciaran Whelan would be a good double act  with cavanaghs experience of having played at the highest level Adding  a lot there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 08, 2018, 09:11:19 PM
He has cake for brains but he's no worse than Tomas ara ara  ara o se. Now that they are showing no games from the early province rounds the "experts" won't have to pretend they've ever heard of players from leitrim or Wicklow again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 13, 2018, 09:56:37 PM
What the hell is up with Cavanagh's wild eyes? He looks like he's trying to suck Des' soul out of his body with that stare.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on May 13, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Wicklow manager - "if Dublin want to beat us by 10 or 20 points they can" Is ridiculous this non tiered system...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Just saw the pics of Parsons injury. I was complaining that they didn't show it but thankfully sense prevailed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 14, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 13, 2018, 09:56:37 PM
What the hell is up with Cavanagh's wild eyes? He looks like he's trying to suck Des' soul out of his body with that stare.

Ok. I'm glad it's not just me. Either the studio lights are blinding him, or he's breaking in new contact lens & trying not to blink. Very distracting, which ever one it is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 13, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Wicklow manager - "if Dublin want to beat us by 10 or 20 points they can" Is ridiculous this non tiered system...
You are mad for a tiered system. How much interest or coverage did you see of the Joe McDonagh,Christy ring,Nicky Rackard cups this weekend?

Wicklow manager has a name John Evans and he said "If Dublin want to beat us by 10, 20, 30 or 40 points they can do that, but we'll play our football and we'll develop our football over the next three years and that's what I'm looking at, not only one game."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 14, 2018, 07:36:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 13, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Wicklow manager - "if Dublin want to beat us by 10 or 20 points they can" Is ridiculous this non tiered system...
You are mad for a tiered system. How much interest or coverage did you see of the Joe McDonagh,Christy ring,Nicky Rackard cups this weekend?

Wicklow manager has a name John Evans and he said "If Dublin want to beat us by 10, 20, 30 or 40 points they can do that, but we'll play our football and we'll develop our football over the next three years and that's what I'm looking at, not only one game."

Bit like how him saying we could contend for an AI in the future became him saying "Roscommon are going to win the AI"..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on May 14, 2018, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Cian Ward is the best football analyst knocking around at the moment but he works better on the radio/podcast where he actually has time to speak.
He's excellent on the GAA Hour podcast.
Very honest and comes across as a good laugh as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on May 14, 2018, 08:00:44 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 13, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Wicklow manager - "if Dublin want to beat us by 10 or 20 points they can" Is ridiculous this non tiered system...
You are mad for a tiered system. How much interest or coverage did you see of the Joe McDonagh,Christy ring,Nicky Rackard cups this weekend?

Wicklow manager has a name John Evans and he said "If Dublin want to beat us by 10, 20, 30 or 40 points they can do that, but we'll play our football and we'll develop our football over the next three years and that's what I'm looking at, not only one game."

Exactly.  Tiered system will not work and numbers going to games would reduce dramatically imo.  Wouldn't be surprised if players even went on strike because of it. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on May 14, 2018, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on May 14, 2018, 08:00:44 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 13, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Wicklow manager - "if Dublin want to beat us by 10 or 20 points they can" Is ridiculous this non tiered system...
You are mad for a tiered system. How much interest or coverage did you see of the Joe McDonagh,Christy ring,Nicky Rackard cups this weekend?

Wicklow manager has a name John Evans and he said "If Dublin want to beat us by 10, 20, 30 or 40 points they can do that, but we'll play our football and we'll develop our football over the next three years and that's what I'm looking at, not only one game."

Exactly.  Tiered system will not work and numbers going to games would reduce dramatically imo.  Wouldn't be surprised if players even went on strike because of it.

Is why most of the football championship is a load of bolloxbetween now and August
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on May 14, 2018, 08:22:30 PM
Quote from: galwayman on May 14, 2018, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 08, 2018, 10:13:53 AM
Cian Ward is the best football analyst knocking around at the moment but he works better on the radio/podcast where he actually has time to speak.
He's excellent on the GAA Hour podcast.
Very honest and comes across as a good laugh as well.

Agree. Could listen to him all day. Mind you, I could listen to that podcast all day.

However, I marked him once and ended up on my arse after he dummy soloed twice before putting the ball over the bar. Will never forgive him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on May 14, 2018, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.
The analysts are pretty terrible for sure.
Was watching it and noticed they said Ciaran Duggan was 23 - saw this written in a piece in the paper today as well.
Well I played against him in an adult club semi final in 2009 and he most certainly was not 14 years old at the time :-)
More like 27 I would say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 14, 2018, 11:29:12 PM
TG4's coverage on Monday nights is such a breath of fresh air compared to the shite TSG churn out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.

Tired format, same old story every year, appalling highlights of the games that aren't carried live on the evening show as well. Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke really need to be out out to pasture at this point.
I watched the match back last night and the "expert analysis" is nearly beyond parody at this stage it is so bad, just absolutely useless, what value do RTE add to their GAA coverage besides just carrying the live matches? Nothing. RTE and the GAA will point to viewer figures but the reality is that it would be watched by exact the same people regardless of what channel it's on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 15, 2018, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 14, 2018, 11:29:12 PM
TG4's coverage on Monday nights is such a breath of fresh air compared to the shite TSG churn out.

+1,000 !!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 15, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.

Tired format, same old story every year, appalling highlights of the games that aren't carried live on the evening show as well. Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke really need to be out out to pasture at this point.
I watched the match back last night and the "expert analysis" is nearly beyond parody at this stage it is so bad, just absolutely useless, what value do RTE add to their GAA coverage besides just carrying the live matches? Nothing. RTE and the GAA will point to viewer figures but the reality is that it would be watched by exact the same people regardless of what channel it's on.
Have stopped watching the RTE analysis long ago and i hear its still the same worn out gimmicks desperately seeking attention. The commentary of Ger Canning and Dessie Dolan was awful last Sunday and its not going to get better as Martin Carney,Tommy Carr are even worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on May 15, 2018, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 15, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.

Tired format, same old story every year, appalling highlights of the games that aren't carried live on the evening show as well. Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke really need to be out out to pasture at this point.
I watched the match back last night and the "expert analysis" is nearly beyond parody at this stage it is so bad, just absolutely useless, what value do RTE add to their GAA coverage besides just carrying the live matches? Nothing. RTE and the GAA will point to viewer figures but the reality is that it would be watched by exact the same people regardless of what channel it's on.
Have stopped watching the RTE analysis long ago and i hear its still the same worn out gimmicks desperately seeking attention. The commentary of Ger Canning and Dessie Dolan was awful last Sunday and its not going to get better as Martin Carney,Tommy Carr are even worse.

When Brannigan came on for Kyne, Heaney went as the free man. Turned out to be a great switch by Walsh. I only know that because Parkinson said it on his podcast. Couldn't tell from tv. Thats the kind of thing the guys on RTE, who are at the game, should be telling us.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 04:15:08 PM
That is a classic example of the added value that good analysis would bring to the RTE coverage for people not at the match who won't see that easily themselves.
Instead we are "treated" to I didn't enjoy that, the game is dying before our eyes etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 15, 2018, 04:21:40 PM
Also TSG from Sunday : Conor Moore

https://youtu.be/mCuMgb2ibwY
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on May 15, 2018, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 04:15:08 PM
That is a classic example of the added value that good analysis would bring to the RTE coverage for people not at the match who won't see that easily themselves.
Instead we are "treated" to I didn't enjoy that, the game is dying before our eyes etc.

Did you watch the Mayo game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 15, 2018, 04:41:26 PM
Paddy Tally, Mickey Harte and Tyrone all blamed within 30 seconds

https://www.facebook.com/TheSundayGame/videos/1252190788248399/?hc_ref=ARRmT55HNOcuPJdbZNJq4xEX_wObH9HQ6lih7RTkzTyqEtiof31ASxErf9F5XjWtt88
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 15, 2018, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 15, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.

Tired format, same old story every year, appalling highlights of the games that aren't carried live on the evening show as well. Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke really need to be out out to pasture at this point.
I watched the match back last night and the "expert analysis" is nearly beyond parody at this stage it is so bad, just absolutely useless, what value do RTE add to their GAA coverage besides just carrying the live matches? Nothing. RTE and the GAA will point to viewer figures but the reality is that it would be watched by exact the same people regardless of what channel it's on.
Have stopped watching the RTE analysis long ago and i hear its still the same worn out gimmicks desperately seeking attention. The commentary of Ger Canning and Dessie Dolan was awful last Sunday and its not going to get better as Martin Carney,Tommy Carr are even worse.

When is Ger Canning going to retire? He is brutal. When giving the option, I select the Irish language commentary rather than listen to him. Only understand some of it, but it's better than listening to Canning.

I wish they'd give us the option of no commentary. I like just watching a match without some bollix shouting in my ear.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 15, 2018, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 15, 2018, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 15, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.

Tired format, same old story every year, appalling highlights of the games that aren't carried live on the evening show as well. Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke really need to be out out to pasture at this point.
I watched the match back last night and the "expert analysis" is nearly beyond parody at this stage it is so bad, just absolutely useless, what value do RTE add to their GAA coverage besides just carrying the live matches? Nothing. RTE and the GAA will point to viewer figures but the reality is that it would be watched by exact the same people regardless of what channel it's on.
Have stopped watching the RTE analysis long ago and i hear its still the same worn out gimmicks desperately seeking attention. The commentary of Ger Canning and Dessie Dolan was awful last Sunday and its not going to get better as Martin Carney,Tommy Carr are even worse.

When is Ger Canning going to retire? He is brutal. When giving the option, I select the Irish language commentary rather than listen to him. Only understand some of it, but it's better than listening to Canning.

I wish they'd give us the option of no commentary. I like just watching a match without some bollix shouting in my ear.

Turn down the volume.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on May 15, 2018, 07:18:04 PM
Tomas O Shea is a complete bluffer, he hadn't a clue what he was waffling about at half time, was a great player but talks pure shite!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on May 15, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Don't know why a lot of people listen to the pundits as they do nothing but moan about them
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on May 15, 2018, 07:47:41 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 15, 2018, 04:41:26 PM
Paddy Tally, Mickey Harte and Tyrone all blamed within 30 seconds

https://www.facebook.com/TheSundayGame/videos/1252190788248399/?hc_ref=ARRmT55HNOcuPJdbZNJq4xEX_wObH9HQ6lih7RTkzTyqEtiof31ASxErf9F5XjWtt88

They got that right. Should have also added Jimmy McGuinness
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on May 15, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 15, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Don't know why a lot of people listen to the pundits as they do nothing but moan about them

And you wonder why these pundits (why didn't you call them ex-gaa players by the way? :o) watch the matches as they do nothing but moan about them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 15, 2018, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 15, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 15, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Don't know why a lot of people listen to the pundits as they do nothing but moan about them

And you wonder why these pundits (why didn't you call them ex-gaa players by the way? :o) watch the matches as they do nothing but moan about them.

Because the fare was poor? Just because Ulster lads are used to that muck it doesn't mean the rest of us are happy watching it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on May 15, 2018, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 15, 2018, 08:30:54 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 15, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 15, 2018, 07:45:31 PM
Don't know why a lot of people listen to the pundits as they do nothing but moan about them

And you wonder why these pundits (why didn't you call them ex-gaa players by the way? :o) watch the matches as they do nothing but moan about them.

Because the fare was poor? Just because Ulster lads are used to that muck it doesn't mean the rest of us are happy watching it.

Not everyone in Ulster liked it. It's dirt
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 15, 2018, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2018, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 15, 2018, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 15, 2018, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2018, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 14, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
Just watched the live coverage Galway v Mayo game there. I know it was not a great game but ffs those fellas analysing would depress the life out of you. New season, same oul dreary analysis. I barely want to watch another match this season after listening to them.

Tired format, same old story every year, appalling highlights of the games that aren't carried live on the evening show as well. Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke really need to be out out to pasture at this point.
I watched the match back last night and the "expert analysis" is nearly beyond parody at this stage it is so bad, just absolutely useless, what value do RTE add to their GAA coverage besides just carrying the live matches? Nothing. RTE and the GAA will point to viewer figures but the reality is that it would be watched by exact the same people regardless of what channel it's on.
Have stopped watching the RTE analysis long ago and i hear its still the same worn out gimmicks desperately seeking attention. The commentary of Ger Canning and Dessie Dolan was awful last Sunday and its not going to get better as Martin Carney,Tommy Carr are even worse.

When is Ger Canning going to retire? He is brutal. When giving the option, I select the Irish language commentary rather than listen to him. Only understand some of it, but it's better than listening to Canning.

I wish they'd give us the option of no commentary. I like just watching a match without some bollix shouting in my ear.

Turn down the volume.

The button is stuck.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 16, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: Targetman on May 15, 2018, 07:18:04 PM
Tomas O Shea is a complete bluffer, he hadn't a clue what he was waffling about at half time, was a great player but talks pure shite!!

This. He comes across as pretty dumb.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on May 17, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
I think he's excellent.  Much better also on podcasts when he can talk more freely.  RTE gives you about 20 seconds max to answer a question. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
There's not much time to talk about the game when you have Brolly ranting, Brolly's time on the TSG is up. We all know what's he going to say and its boring and most of us are tried of listening to him.

The game has moved on and its time to hear more from players who've recently retired or from those who are still coaching. There's easily room for a guest appearance each week from a manager who's still active.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
There's not much time to talk about the game when you have Brolly ranting, Brolly's time on the TSG is up. We all know what's he going to say and its boring and most of us are tried of listening to him.

The game has moved on and its time to hear more from players who've recently retired or from those who are still coaching. There's easily room for a guest appearance each week from a manager who's still active.

Also, just to say I watched that game Sunday night as I taped it and watched it when I came back from Portlaoise. It wasn't the best game ever, and Galway were certainly cautious, but it wasn't the horror show people were saying either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2018, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
There's not much time to talk about the game when you have Brolly ranting, Brolly's time on the TSG is up. We all know what's he going to say and its boring and most of us are tried of listening to him.

The game has moved on and its time to hear more from players who've recently retired or from those who are still coaching. There's easily room for a guest appearance each week from a manager who's still active.

Also, just to say I watched that game Sunday night as I taped it and watched it when I came back from Portlaoise. It wasn't the best game ever, and Galway were certainly cautious, but it wasn't the horror show people were saying either.

I watched it again and you're right, clearly not a classic their were some good moments from both teams they could have talked about at half time and after the match but once again they prefer to rant and run down the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on May 17, 2018, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: Seany on May 17, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
I think he's excellent.  Much better also on podcasts when he can talk more freely.  RTE gives you about 20 seconds max to answer a question.

Then why does he waste half that time by starting very single sentence with "Ah sure, d'ya know Des, lookit, I suppose sure I think I suppose...."

The man can not give a straight answer to a simple question to save his life. Comes across as a bit too vague for my liking, as if he's waiting for the producers to tell him what to say into his earpiece. He's not, but that's how he comes across.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 17, 2018, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2018, 10:50:08 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 10:41:35 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 17, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
There's not much time to talk about the game when you have Brolly ranting, Brolly's time on the TSG is up. We all know what's he going to say and its boring and most of us are tried of listening to him.

The game has moved on and its time to hear more from players who've recently retired or from those who are still coaching. There's easily room for a guest appearance each week from a manager who's still active.

Also, just to say I watched that game Sunday night as I taped it and watched it when I came back from Portlaoise. It wasn't the best game ever, and Galway were certainly cautious, but it wasn't the horror show people were saying either.

I watched it again and you're right, clearly not a classic their were some good moments from both teams they could have talked about at half time and after the match but once again they prefer to rant and run down the game.

In a 2-3 minute period in the second half there were a couple of great scores - first from Mayo where AOS broke the kickout to COC, long kick to Andy who just about got to it ahead of two backs and popped it over. From the kickout, Galway won it, couple of passes and a long kick to Walsh who took on Durcan before kicking a nice point. Great to watch but it's a pity it doesn't happen more frequently.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 17, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: Beffs on May 17, 2018, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: Seany on May 17, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
I think he's excellent.  Much better also on podcasts when he can talk more freely.  RTE gives you about 20 seconds max to answer a question.

Then why does he waste half that time by starting very single sentence with "Ah sure, d'ya know Des, lookit, I suppose sure I think I suppose...."

The man can not give a straight answer to a simple question to save his life. Comes across as a bit too vague for my liking, as if he's waiting for the producers to tell him what to say into his earpiece. He's not, but that's how he comes across.

+1, this "look I suppose" BS has gotten old quickly. Mind you he has a lot of company.

Is there some agent or other that facilities these guys getting the Sunday games gigs and also some of the radio slots.
A lot of spoofers and self promoting clowns if you ask me, making sure they get a sound bite here a sound bite there, "I was talking to a panel member and he told me......."

Other than Whealan, McStay, O Rourke and occasionally Brolly, the rest are absolutely useless and predictable and more often than not ill prepared.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 17, 2018, 02:14:00 PM
Pause/rewind/record options on TVs are rendering punditry meaningless. People I think tend to just watch the games, or have bite size footage. Attention spans ain't what they were, and fewer people want to listen to pundits talking (sense or crap), regardless of who they are.

I think that's why TG4's Monday night highlights are very good. No bullshit, show me the matches, goodnight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 17, 2018, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 16, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: Targetman on May 15, 2018, 07:18:04 PM
Tomas O Shea is a complete bluffer, he hadn't a clue what he was waffling about at half time, was a great player but talks pure shite!!

This. He comes across as pretty dumb.

Yerra lookit Dinny, I suppose there's a fine line between a fella being 'dumb' and a fella being 'cute'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 03:30:42 PM
When was the last time anyone got a straight answer from a Kerrymen?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 17, 2018, 03:37:29 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on May 14, 2018, 08:00:44 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 14, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: longballin on May 13, 2018, 10:09:51 PM
Wicklow manager - "if Dublin want to beat us by 10 or 20 points they can" Is ridiculous this non tiered system...
You are mad for a tiered system. How much interest or coverage did you see of the Joe McDonagh,Christy ring,Nicky Rackard cups this weekend?

Wicklow manager has a name John Evans and he said "If Dublin want to beat us by 10, 20, 30 or 40 points they can do that, but we'll play our football and we'll develop our football over the next three years and that's what I'm looking at, not only one game."

I really cant understand the strength of feeling against a  tiered system.
Surely its a much better system for everyone involved?

Exactly.  Tiered system will not work and numbers going to games would reduce dramatically imo.  Wouldn't be surprised if players even went on strike because of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on May 17, 2018, 03:40:20 PM
These junior teams need constantly bate. They don't want the tiered championship. That's fine. Then take your 30 point beating. Watch as players drop out and leave. They'll get what they want.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 03:42:34 PM
One reason is that players, if they are going to be bursting a gut for several months, want to at least have the recognition of playing for their county in the Senior Championship. We have a tiered competition, and it's a good one, the National League. But players want, and are entitled to, their moment in the sun.

How many people knew on Monday morning that Wicklow beat Offaly and Carlow beat Louth? Now how many people can even name the Joe McDonagh Cup hurling matches on the same weekend?
I would wager a fair sum that more knew about the former, and read about the Wicklow goalie, or Carlow's great performance, than the latter.

That's one reason why.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 17, 2018, 03:47:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 03:42:34 PM
One reason is that players, if they are going to be bursting a gut for several months, want to at least have the recognition of playing for their county in the Senior Championship. We have a tiered competition, and it's a good one, the National League. But players want, and are entitled to, their moment in the sun.

How many people knew on Monday morning that Wicklow beat Offaly and Carlow beat Louth? Now how many people can even name the Joe McDonagh Cup hurling matches on the same weekend?
I would wager a fair sum that more knew about the former, and read about the Wicklow goalie, or Carlow's great performance, than the latter.

That's one reason why.

Maybe the answer is system similar0 to the FA cup, where the 'bigger' seeded counties can enter the competition at round 3.

Still gives everyone the chance to play in the main event, but there is justa couple of qualifying agmes to play first before you get into the competition proper.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 03:48:57 PM
Yeah, I'd have no problem with that. I think I suggested something similar before.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 17, 2018, 03:49:03 PM
Tiered systems don't work for promoting the game. Anyone who says they do is willfully ignoring the absolutely shambles that is the elitist tiered system in hurling, where no one even pays any attention to the lower grades. It didn't improve anyone's lot or suddenly stop lads fûcking off to America for the summer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on May 17, 2018, 03:58:06 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 03:42:34 PM
One reason is that players, if they are going to be bursting a gut for several months, want to at least have the recognition of playing for their county in the Senior Championship. We have a tiered competition, and it's a good one, the National League. But players want, and are entitled to, their moment in the sun.

How many people knew on Monday morning that Wicklow beat Offaly and Carlow beat Louth? Now how many people can even name the Joe McDonagh Cup hurling matches on the same weekend?
I would wager a fair sum that more knew about the former, and read about the Wicklow goalie, or Carlow's great performance, than the latter.

That's one reason why.

They should earn the right, by becoming good. I never watched weaker counties in hurling before the tiered championship and I wont watch it now.
All this championship has done for Offaly is make them an even bigger laughing stock than they already were.

Neutrals want to watch the best players, in the best teams in the Summer. Not Offaly or Louth imploding against Wicklow or Carlow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 17, 2018, 03:58:06 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 03:42:34 PM
One reason is that players, if they are going to be bursting a gut for several months, want to at least have the recognition of playing for their county in the Senior Championship. We have a tiered competition, and it's a good one, the National League. But players want, and are entitled to, their moment in the sun.

How many people knew on Monday morning that Wicklow beat Offaly and Carlow beat Louth? Now how many people can even name the Joe McDonagh Cup hurling matches on the same weekend?
I would wager a fair sum that more knew about the former, and read about the Wicklow goalie, or Carlow's great performance, than the latter.

That's one reason why.

They should earn the right, by becoming good. I never watched weaker counties in hurling before the tiered championship and I wont watch it now.
All this championship has done for Offaly is make them an even bigger laughing stock than they already were.

Neutrals want to watch the best players, in the best teams in the Summer. Not Offaly or Louth imploding against Wicklow or Carlow.

Fair enough, that's your right. At least you're honest about it, and not pretending it's some sort of egalitarian utopia you're looking for. Basically you just don't want to waste your time with teams who have no chance to win the All Ireland.

But you don't get to dictate to players who are actually putting in the effort.

Where are you from by the way?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
People are talking about Offaly alright😁
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
People are talking about Offaly alright😁

Big deal. So we're in trouble. Ye've never been in trouble, or playing naked pool or anything like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
So how to intermediate and junior club finals in counties generate such excitement for the clubs attending?

I am convinced 2nd tier competition is a great idea it just needs to be properly sold and promoted and written into TV contracts - you want the big games, you need to show these games too. The problem is the complete balls that the Tommy Murphy cup has soured peoples opinions on what it could be like.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
So how to intermediate and junior club finals in counties generate such excitement for the clubs attending?

I am convinced 2nd tier competition is a great idea it just needs to be properly sold and promoted and written into TV contracts - you want the big games, you need to show these games too. The problem is the complete balls that the Tommy Murphy cup has soured peoples opinions on what it could be like.

Not just the Tommy Murphy Cup. The McDonagh Cup in hurling, the Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard etc. People know that if you are not playing in the main competition, nobody gives a toss about what you do. Players have a tiered league, and they want to at least play a big championship game at least once or twice a summer. In an amateur game, a lot of what lads get for the effort they put in is a bit of local/national recognition.

Everyone knows Niall McNamee as one of the top forwards in Ireland. Likewise numerous other players from smaller counties. Who is the best Carlow hurler? The best Louth hurler?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on May 17, 2018, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 17, 2018, 03:58:06 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 03:42:34 PM
One reason is that players, if they are going to be bursting a gut for several months, want to at least have the recognition of playing for their county in the Senior Championship. We have a tiered competition, and it's a good one, the National League. But players want, and are entitled to, their moment in the sun.

How many people knew on Monday morning that Wicklow beat Offaly and Carlow beat Louth? Now how many people can even name the Joe McDonagh Cup hurling matches on the same weekend?
I would wager a fair sum that more knew about the former, and read about the Wicklow goalie, or Carlow's great performance, than the latter.

That's one reason why.

They should earn the right, by becoming good. I never watched weaker counties in hurling before the tiered championship and I wont watch it now.
All this championship has done for Offaly is make them an even bigger laughing stock than they already were.

Neutrals want to watch the best players, in the best teams in the Summer. Not Offaly or Louth imploding against Wicklow or Carlow.

From listening to it on the radio on Saturday evening, it sounded like Wexford v Laois was a better watch than the Mayo/Galway game on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on May 17, 2018, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
So how to intermediate and junior club finals in counties generate such excitement for the clubs attending?

I am convinced 2nd tier competition is a great idea it just needs to be properly sold and promoted and written into TV contracts - you want the big games, you need to show these games too. The problem is the complete balls that the Tommy Murphy cup has soured peoples opinions on what it could be like.

Not just the Tommy Murphy Cup. The McDonagh Cup in hurling, the Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard etc. People know that if you are not playing in the main competition, nobody gives a toss about what you do. Players have a tiered league, and they want to at least play a big championship game at least once or twice a summer. In an amateur game, a lot of what lads get for the effort they put in is a bit of local/national recognition.

Everyone knows Niall McNamee as one of the top forwards in Ireland. Likewise numerous other players from smaller counties. Who is the best Carlow hurler? The best Louth hurler?

The first year of the Christy Ring, the final was played before the Liam McCarthy semi final in Croker. There was big excitement in Mullingar when Westmeath brought the cup back. Then the "elite" counties complained that their minors were losing out. It didn't take long for the aura of the CRC to disappear, as the final slipped to Portlaoise, and out of the spotlight.
McDonagh cup has got no mainstream coverage the past 2 weeks. But plenty of coverage of Cody saying that they should change the structure already so that nobody gets relegated. Christ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 17, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
FA cup style draw. Forget tiers.

I remember some non league bucko jumping around the changing room once completely starkers when seeing his team had drew a big gun in the FA cup. That's what we should be aiming for. Well, not exactly that, but the sight of Leitrim going mental because the dubs are coming to town. Yes they'll probably be stuffed, but so were Tyrone in last years semi.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 05:04:51 PM
Dubs won't be going to anyone's town ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 17, 2018, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
People are talking about Offaly alright😁

Big deal. So we're in trouble. Ye've never been in trouble, or playing naked pool or anything like that.

We were reigning Connacht champions when we got the pool cues out, in fairness.

You should hear the one about the Mayo lads tearing the toilet seats off in the niteclub..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 17, 2018, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
People are talking about Offaly alright😁

Big deal. So we're in trouble. Ye've never been in trouble, or playing naked pool or anything like that.

We were reigning Connacht champions when we got the pool cues out, in fairness.

You should hear the one about the Mayo lads tearing the toilet seats off in the niteclub..

That is true in fairness. Still embarrassing though. Unfortunately in Offaly we seem to have made an art form out of shooting ourselves in the foot area.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
So how to intermediate and junior club finals in counties generate such excitement for the clubs attending?

I am convinced 2nd tier competition is a great idea it just needs to be properly sold and promoted and written into TV contracts - you want the big games, you need to show these games too. The problem is the complete balls that the Tommy Murphy cup has soured peoples opinions on what it could be like.

Not just the Tommy Murphy Cup. The McDonagh Cup in hurling, the Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard etc. People know that if you are not playing in the main competition, nobody gives a toss about what you do. Players have a tiered league, and they want to at least play a big championship game at least once or twice a summer. In an amateur game, a lot of what lads get for the effort they put in is a bit of local/national recognition.

Everyone knows Niall McNamee as one of the top forwards in Ireland. Likewise numerous other players from smaller counties. Who is the best Carlow hurler? The best Louth hurler?
Who was the best Louth hurler of the 90s,80's,  70s.
How many years did Louth enter the Leinster SHC?
When did they last play Kilkenny and what was the score?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 17, 2018, 04:25:56 PM
So how to intermediate and junior club finals in counties generate such excitement for the clubs attending?

I am convinced 2nd tier competition is a great idea it just needs to be properly sold and promoted and written into TV contracts - you want the big games, you need to show these games too. The problem is the complete balls that the Tommy Murphy cup has soured peoples opinions on what it could be like.

Not just the Tommy Murphy Cup. The McDonagh Cup in hurling, the Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard etc. People know that if you are not playing in the main competition, nobody gives a toss about what you do. Players have a tiered league, and they want to at least play a big championship game at least once or twice a summer. In an amateur game, a lot of what lads get for the effort they put in is a bit of local/national recognition.

Everyone knows Niall McNamee as one of the top forwards in Ireland. Likewise numerous other players from smaller counties. Who is the best Carlow hurler? The best Louth hurler?
Who was the best Louth hurler of the 90s,80's,  70s.
How many years did Louth enter the Leinster SHC?
When did they last play Kilkenny and what was the score?

The historic neglect of hurling's weaker counties is NOT a reason to start neglecting football's weaker counties. Do you not see you are saying 'Look how shit hurling has always been in Louth, let's make the football the same'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Calm down AZ I'm saying no such thing.

Hurling has always been a minor minority sport in Louth and 18 or 19 other Counties and will remain so even if the GAA pumped millions into trying to make it a popular game in the said Counties.
Putting all 32 Counties into the SHC would be the most ludicrous thing ever and no one is suggesting it ....apart from AZ's inferences.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 17, 2018, 09:08:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Calm down AZ I'm saying no such thing.

Hurling has always been a minor minority sport in Louth and 18 or 19 other Counties and will remain so even if the GAA pumped millions into trying to make it a popular game in the said Counties.
Putting all 32 Counties into the SHC would be the most ludicrous thing ever and no one is suggesting it ....apart from AZ's inferences.
The skill levels required are much higher in hurling.This does not mean hurling is superior. It is just a fact. A talented 16 year old foreigner could join a good football team easily enough but not a good hurling team.  Its very hard to transplant a successful county hurling culture to a new county.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Calm down AZ I'm saying no such thing.

Hurling has always been a minor minority sport in Louth and 18 or 19 other Counties and will remain so even if the GAA pumped millions into trying to make it a popular game in the said Counties.
Putting all 32 Counties into the SHC would be the most ludicrous thing ever and no one is suggesting it ....apart from AZ's inferences.

I'm not suggesting it either. What I'm saying is the way the lesser championships are treated in hurling is EXACTLY what would happen the lesser football championships.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 17, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Calm down AZ I'm saying no such thing.

Hurling has always been a minor minority sport in Louth and 18 or 19 other Counties and will remain so even if the GAA pumped millions into trying to make it a popular game in the said Counties.
Putting all 32 Counties into the SHC would be the most ludicrous thing ever and no one is suggesting it ....apart from AZ's inferences.

I'm not suggesting it either. What I'm saying is the way the lesser championships are treated in hurling is EXACTLY what would happen the lesser football championships.
I don't necessarily think so
During the summer you can start talking to the fella beside you on the beach about what county he is from and then how the footballers are going.  This won't change. A tiered system would mean more matches for most counties so more exposure. Men will watch or read about endless sport.
The promotion/relegation would be very interesting. It would probably mean more transformations are executed. I think under the current system for D3 and D4 momentum is very hard to carry over from one season to the next. The current system favours the stronger counties. the ones who can build momentum.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:01:05 PM
 ;D Yes we irish make a regular habit of going to the beach what with the tropical weather and all :D

There was little to no coverage of the joe mcdonagh games at the weekend. The ring, rackard etc get no coverage. The tommy murphy got little to none.

Sure it has already started with less coverage this year. The super 8s will be where the interest is.

So in summary az is bang on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 17, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:01:05 PM
;D Yes we irish make a regular habit of going to the beach what with the tropical weather and all :D

There was little to no coverage of the joe mcdonagh games at the weekend. The ring, rackard etc get no coverage. The tommy murphy got little to none.

Sure it has already started with less coverage this year. The super 8s will be where the interest is.

So in summary az is bang on.
Football and hurling are totally different. The hurling audience is much smaller . The gap between the first 10 and second 10 is immense. In football it is less so. If there is hurling on TV only hurling people will.watch it. Far more people watch football.

Tiered divisions will get the media attention.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2018, 10:29:15 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 17, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2018, 09:38:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Calm down AZ I'm saying no such thing.

Hurling has always been a minor minority sport in Louth and 18 or 19 other Counties and will remain so even if the GAA pumped millions into trying to make it a popular game in the said Counties.
Putting all 32 Counties into the SHC would be the most ludicrous thing ever and no one is suggesting it ....apart from AZ's inferences.

I'm not suggesting it either. What I'm saying is the way the lesser championships are treated in hurling is EXACTLY what would happen the lesser football championships.
I don't necessarily think so
During the summer you can start talking to the fella beside you on the beach about what county he is from and then how the footballers are going.  This won't change. A tiered system would mean more matches for most counties so more exposure. Men will watch or read about endless sport.
The promotion/relegation would be very interesting. It would probably mean more transformations are executed. I think under the current system for D3 and D4 momentum is very hard to carry over from one season to the next. The current system favours the stronger counties. the ones who can build momentum.
We already have that its called the NFL and GAA top brass should look at ways to make that competition more important than forever chopping and changing our cup competition (All Ireland football championship) to favour the stronger counties.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 11:57:20 PM
For Fûck sake stop calling our CHAMPIONSHIP a"Cup competition".
Anyway any competition will favour the stronger teams unless you bring in handicapping.
For all its good points the NFL is a pre season tournament.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2018, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 11:57:20 PM
For Fûck sake stop calling our CHAMPIONSHIP a"Cup competition".
Anyway any competition will favour the stronger teams unless you bring in handicapping.
For all its good points the NFL is a pre season tournament.
We have grumpy one here! Its a cup competition deal with it.

The journey for a lot counties can be as interesting as the final destination for the winners. Every sport should have at least two well run and important tournaments so do yourself a favour and can stop calling the NFL a pre season tournament.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on May 18, 2018, 10:26:57 AM
The truth is I'd watch Offaly v Wicklow if it was an Intermediate game or a Junior game. It would mean something. Two sides well matched going at it.
The fact that the winner is going to get hammered by Dublin or Kildare makes the game a non event.

Anyway these Div 4 & 3 sides don't want a tiered championship, so a good old fashioned u-12 hosing is what they deserve. 30 points+ please!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 10:55:04 AM
Captain - how will I do myself a favour by not referring to the NFL as a pre season tournament?
Will I have good luck for the rest of the year? Or will the GAABOARD mods send me some money or what?

The NFL IS a pre season tournament played in February and March with experimental or weakened teams not at full fitness.
It's still a decent competition but has to be taken for what it is.
And Captain does your soccer orientated mind still think  Championship is a "Cup competition " seeing as the last 8 is on a group basis?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
How many people are interested in the championship before September?


Last year was crap. The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals' concluding average was 0-9.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
How many people are interested in the championship before September?


Last year was crap. The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals' concluding average was 0-9.

Are you serious?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 11:05:15 AM
Seaf is a Galwayman/woman  ;)
The casual gaa fan will only get interested in the SFC from Provincial Finals/Round 4.
Maybe the explosion of televised hurling games might get them interested in the SHC earlier?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
How many people are interested in the championship before September?


Last year was crap. The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals' concluding average was 0-9.

Are you serious?
Think about last year. How many memorable matches were there? How many boring mismatches were there? How many counties made progress other than Carlow ? LEinster football is in crisis.
The football championship is shite. The attendances prove it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
How many people are interested in the championship before September?


Last year was crap. The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals' concluding average was 0-9.

Are you serious?
Think about last year. How many memorable matches were there? How many boring mismatches were there? How many counties made progress other than Carlow ? LEinster football is in crisis.
The football championship is shite. The attendances prove it.

You're conflating the quality of the championship last year with the interest in it. And your standard tack of making sensational one line comments doesn't change the fact that there is a big interest in the championship, whether you like it or not. You said there's no interest before September. That's patently nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 11:16:34 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
How many people are interested in the championship before September?


Last year was crap. The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals' concluding average was 0-9.

Are you serious?
Think about last year. How many memorable matches were there? How many boring mismatches were there? How many counties made progress other than Carlow ? LEinster football is in crisis.
The football championship is shite. The attendances prove it.

You're conflating the quality of the championship last year with the interest in it. And your standard tack of making sensational one line comments doesn't change the fact that there is a big interest in the championship, whether you like it or not. You said there's no interest before September. That's patently nonsense.

Everyone is interested in their own county and in May there is great anticipation but the product is poor. This summer might well be as forgettable as last summer. Neutrals have no interest in Leinster finals any more. The drop in attendances since 2001 is saying something as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2018, 01:34:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 10:55:04 AM
Captain - how will I do myself a favour by not referring to the NFL as a pre season tournament?
Will I have good luck for the rest of the year? Or will the GAABOARD mods send me some money or what?

The NFL IS a pre season tournament played in February and March with experimental or weakened teams not at full fitness.
It's still a decent competition but has to be taken for what it is.
And Captain does your soccer orientated mind still think  Championship is a "Cup competition " seeing as the last 8 is on a group basis?

Firstly my mind is orientated on common sense and not on any sport and that sport in question is called Association football, Soccer you call it if you are American which i doubt you are?

By doing yourself a favour it might make you become less grumpy when someone corrects you.

Pre season in the O Byrne and McKenna cup. NFL is our secondary full season tournament which at the moment isn't taken serious enough and my point many times is should be made more important.

Last 8 group basic is a prime example of GAA top brass chopping and changing our cup competition (All Ireland football championship) to favour the stronger counties and eliminating underdog from reaching the last 4 as best they can.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 18, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
And yet Mayo Galway nearly sold out...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 18, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
And yet Mayo Galway nearly sold out...
I was thinking the same thing. What other significant provincial matches would get that sort of crowd or be that hard to call ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 02:22:46 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2018, 10:26:39 PM
They are different but not as different as you think.

People supporting top tier teams wouldn't have that much interest in lower tier games.

Remember the tommy murphy cup?
How many people are interested in the championship before September?


Last year was crap. The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

Own view or repeating what Pat Spillane said? If only seafoid you had some tabloid newspaper article to back up your raving.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 18, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 10:55:04 AM
Captain - how will I do myself a favour by not referring to the NFL as a pre season tournament?
Will I have good luck for the rest of the year? Or will the GAABOARD mods send me some money or what?

The NFL IS a pre season tournament played in February and March with experimental or weakened teams not at full fitness.
It's still a decent competition but has to be taken for what it is.
And Captain does your soccer orientated mind still think  Championship is a "Cup competition " seeing as the last 8 is on a group basis?

I don't think you quite understand what pre-season refers to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 18, 2018, 04:44:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
If that's attempt to insult me and my devotion for GAA you really need to try a lot harder Mr Grumpy.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on May 18, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.
With the lack of use of the foot in modern Gaelic football people will soon be calling it fist ball

Now back to the topic. No live game on RTE this weekend other than hurling i hope the Sunday Game pull out all of the stops and shows good highlights of Limerick v Clare and Tipperary v Waterford or am i expecting too much?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 18, 2018, 05:06:39 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.

Unless you are in Dublin, then it's the Gah! That wrecks my head.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.
There were several variations of football back in the 1860s so the sport became known as association football. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
Anyway the Brits started the term as they called their 2 most popular brands of football "Soccer" from Association and "Rugger".
Of all the people I know only 1 regularly calls the 11 aside stuff "football" but he's from feckin Athlone so enuf said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 05:53:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 05:36:58 PM
Anyway the Brits started the term as they called their 2 most popular brands of football "Soccer" from Association and "Rugger".
Of all the people I know only 1 regularly calls the 11 aside stuff "football" but he's from feckin Athlone so enuf said.
Do you ever read any Neil Francis columns? He often throws in the line "then Ireland starting playing football" or "they know how to play football"
Jaysus
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on May 18, 2018, 06:09:20 PM
So monaghan v Tyrone is not live then?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 18, 2018, 06:09:20 PM
So monaghan v Tyrone is not live then?
No, game on at 4pm Sunday. Deferred coverage on BBC 2 NI at 7pm.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 18, 2018, 07:34:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.

Or just 'Gaelic'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on May 18, 2018, 07:56:47 PM
Anyone that is on this forum giving out about people using the term 'soccer' needs their head looked at.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 19, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 18, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
As any real GAA man will tell you Syfīn it's all about what you do after May Day.
And ad for Captain saying only Yanks call the 11 aside stuff Soccer.... 98% of GAA people call it soccer and most non British TV immersed people in Ireland call it Soccer.
So I'll be ignoring your ramblings from now on as your obviously not a GAA person at all.
Where did you get the 98% figure? The official name of the sport across the water is football the Captain is right. The term Soccer nothing more than a nickname.

In fairness I think I agree with Rossfan for once. 98% is obviously made up, but most GAA people call soccer soccer, and football is Gaelic Football.
With the lack of use of the foot in modern Gaelic football people will soon be calling it fist ball

Now back to the topic. No live game on RTE this weekend other than hurling i hope the Sunday Game pull out all of the stops and shows good highlights of Limerick v Clare and Tipperary v Waterford or am i expecting too much?
Probably. I find the highlights packages on TSG very frustrating. The primary goal should be to show all scores from play and other very key incidents. If a lad gets sent off with his 2nd yellow in injury time we don't need to see that. There's also no need for replays in a highlights package.

Last week, they devoted 18 minutes to Galway v Offaly. 2 minutes intro, 6 minutes highlights, 2 minutes interviews and 8 minutes analysis. They showed 5-1 of Galway's scores and 2-2 of Offaly's. The totals scored from play were Galway 5-11 Offaly 2-6. That's 24 scores from play and then there were Cahills two great saves from Canning which they also showed. That's 26 things worth showing. Say a 15 - 20 second clip for each without replays would take 7 or 8 minutes. It would be a tighter, much more useful and entertaining package.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on May 19, 2018, 12:13:08 PM
I thought Micahel Duignan was very biased and offaly blinkered in his opinion on the relegation/promotion to the Leinster hurling championship. His remark about Antrim and Galway making up 2 of the 5 counties next year was petty. Would it not be a huge boost for hurling in the north if Antrim got 2 home games next year with the likes of Wexford, KK, Galway travelling up there. For what its worth the Leinster Champinship is only Leinster in name since Galway joined it. If Antriim should be good enough to win the McDonagh cup thne it would be great to see them in the LHC.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 19, 2018, 01:22:29 PM
It's a waste of time talking to managers after a game. "Breaks didn't go our way, look they're a good team, look we've a lot of work to do". Horseshit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 19, 2018, 02:41:20 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0518/964435-collins-scrap-the-provincials-the-sky-wont-fall-in/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 19, 2018, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 19, 2018, 01:22:29 PM
It's a waste of time talking to managers after a game. "Breaks didn't go our way, look they're a good team, look we've a lot of work to do". Horseshit.
+1.

Joe Canning gave a great, honest interview to Vincent Hogan before the Tipp match last year, when he gave the performance that won him hurler of the year. The interview won awards and Galway won the All-Ireland but players still live in terror of saying anything interesting to the media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 19, 2018, 08:25:46 PM
Quote from: didlyi on May 19, 2018, 12:13:08 PM
I thought Micahel Duignan was very biased and offaly blinkered in his opinion on the relegation/promotion to the Leinster hurling championship. His remark about Antrim and Galway making up 2 of the 5 counties next year was petty. Would it not be a huge boost for hurling in the north if Antrim got 2 home games next year with the likes of Wexford, KK, Galway travelling up there. For what its worth the Leinster Champinship is only Leinster in name since Galway joined it. If Antriim should be good enough to win the McDonagh cup thne it would be great to see them in the LHC.

Probably, but why isn't there straight relegation if Kerry win it? I'd say that's where he might be coming from.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 20, 2018, 09:54:29 PM
Same old. Very short highlights of Tyrone v Monaghan followed by analysis 2 or 3 times as long. Pat went to great lengths to emphasise that it was a great game when they could have just been showing us that it was a great game. They only showed Mc Manus' wonder point during the analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on May 20, 2018, 10:08:15 PM
Showed about 2 minutes highlights of the Clare v Limerick  and Tipp v Waterford football games tonight  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 20, 2018, 10:08:15 PM
Showed about 2 minutes highlights of the Clare v Limerick  and Tipp v Waterford football games tonight  ::)

Pat went into a rant about the state of the championship afterwards which we all knew about a long time ago. Whelo says smaller counties should 'buck up'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 20, 2018, 10:20:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 20, 2018, 10:08:15 PM
Showed about 2 minutes highlights of the Clare v Limerick  and Tipp v Waterford football games tonight  ::)

Pat went into a rant about the state of the championship afterwards which we all knew about a long time ago. Whelo says smaller counties should 'buck up'.

Aye, on yer bike Waterford  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 20, 2018, 10:21:01 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 20, 2018, 10:08:15 PM
Showed about 2 minutes highlights of the Clare v Limerick  and Tipp v Waterford football games tonight  ::)

Pat went into a rant about the state of the championship afterwards which we all knew about a long time ago. Whelo says smaller counties should 'buck up'.

You have to love the "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" attitude from Whelo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on May 20, 2018, 10:22:31 PM
Mangetout mangetout indeed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on May 20, 2018, 10:30:20 PM
The dance Hall in Donegal  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 20, 2018, 10:45:39 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 10:17:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 20, 2018, 10:08:15 PM
Showed about 2 minutes highlights of the Clare v Limerick  and Tipp v Waterford football games tonight  ::)

Pat went into a rant about the state of the championship afterwards which we all knew about a long time ago. Whelo says smaller counties should 'buck up'.
Let me guess Pats rant lasted longer than the highlights of those two games?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Yep. Only the Senior championship matters for RTÉ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Yep. Only the Senior championship matters for RTÉ.

This is the sort of thing that is putting people off the thought of a tiered championship.
If it was to go that way the GAA would have to put something in their broadcasting contracts to say that  a certain amount of time & coverage is allocated to each division
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 21, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
QuoteNo McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

I take it no Rackard or Meagher results ayther?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on May 21, 2018, 12:56:03 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 21, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
QuoteNo McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

I take it no Rackard or Meagher results ayther?

Wha, you must be joking.

FFS how hard would it be to take 30 seconds just to show the results on the screen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 01:00:44 PM
One thing that is very noticeable about TSG is the way certain pundits move the head towards their colleagues, as if they re not sure about what they are saying or looking for support , instead of focusing on what they are saying. Ger Loughnane is a hoor for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-FuUu4HIlo

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Asal Mor on May 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.


As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Not if 2 tier 1 teams were relegated every year .
In the hurling, the Joe McDonagh Cup features a promotion to the elite level and that makes it far  more interesting
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on May 21, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Not if 2 tier 1 teams were relegated every year .
In the hurling, the Joe McDonagh Cup features a promotion to the elite level and that makes it far  more interesting

Not if you're Kerry it doesn't. Just wait for it, there will be nobody relegated from Leinster championship. They'll change the rules again. The comments from the usual sources have already started.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on May 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.


As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on May 21, 2018, 01:27:56 PM
Quote from: shark on May 21, 2018, 01:16:53 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Not if 2 tier 1 teams were relegated every year .
In the hurling, the Joe McDonagh Cup features a promotion to the elite level and that makes it far  more interesting

Not if you're Kerry it doesn't. Just wait for it, there will be nobody relegated from Leinster championship. They'll change the rules again. The comments from the usual sources have already started.
If Dublin get relegated, they'll change it. If it's a Offaly there's a smaller chance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 21, 2018, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Yep. Only the Senior championship matters for RTÉ.

This is the sort of thing that is putting people off the thought of a tiered championship.
If it was to go that way the GAA would have to put something in their broadcasting contracts to say that  a certain amount of time & coverage is allocated to each division

Absolutely agree, if the powers to be are serious about a tiered championship, they will have to do two things'

1. The so-called "B" final will have to be played before the All-Ireland, move the minor (sorry U 17 ) to 12 noon, or some other date.
2. Have the Q/finals on televised and promoted, and when possible combine some of the later rounds with latter rounds of All-Ireland, e.g. this year play those semi-finals before the big semi-finals.

I have a feeling the folks who are defending one championship may feel differently in about a month, when the two prelim qualifier rounds are out of the way, and half a dozen teams get their usual back door hammerings.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 21, 2018, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Yep. Only the Senior championship matters for RTÉ.

This is the sort of thing that is putting people off the thought of a tiered championship.
If it was to go that way the GAA would have to put something in their broadcasting contracts to say that  a certain amount of time & coverage is allocated to each division

Absolutely agree, if the powers to be are serious about a tiered championship, they will have to do two things'

1. The so-called "B" final will have to be played before the All-Ireland, move the minor (sorry U 17 ) to 12 noon, or some other date.
2. Have the Q/finals on televised and promoted, and when possible combine some of the later rounds with latter rounds of All-Ireland, e.g. this year play those semi-finals before the big semi-finals.

I have a feeling the folks who are defending one championship may feel differently in about a month, when the two prelim qualifier rounds are out of the way, and half a dozen teams get their usual back door hammerings.

All hell would break loose for tickets for AI finals then.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on May 21, 2018, 02:03:28 PM
I have a feeling you are talking carp Joemamas
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 02:05:05 PM
It all sounds a bit fishy alright.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 21, 2018, 02:14:06 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 21, 2018, 02:03:28 PM
I have a feeling you are talking carp Joemamas

That Carp may well be rotten in a month.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on May 21, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 21, 2018, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 21, 2018, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 09:17:13 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2018, 09:09:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Yep. Only the Senior championship matters for RTÉ.

This is the sort of thing that is putting people off the thought of a tiered championship.
If it was to go that way the GAA would have to put something in their broadcasting contracts to say that  a certain amount of time & coverage is allocated to each division

Absolutely agree, if the powers to be are serious about a tiered championship, they will have to do two things'

1. The so-called "B" final will have to be played before the All-Ireland, move the minor (sorry U 17 ) to 12 noon, or some other date.
2. Have the Q/finals on televised and promoted, and when possible combine some of the later rounds with latter rounds of All-Ireland, e.g. this year play those semi-finals before the big semi-finals.

I have a feeling the folks who are defending one championship may feel differently in about a month, when the two prelim qualifier rounds are out of the way, and half a dozen teams get their usual back door hammerings.

All hell would break loose for tickets for AI finals then.

Well they could solve that by not giving every club in Ireland with no connections a ticket.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 21, 2018, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

I just can't see how they can do that unless it was played earlier on in the year and the winners made the super 8's.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 02:39:39 PM
The problem with the GAA is we are so heavily integrated that it is hard to allow for unintended consequences when you eventually do decide to change something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on May 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.


As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.
If Sky can make Stoke v Swansea on a wet Wednesday in November interesting it shouldn't be hard to jazz up D2 fuball. 
A lot of fellas will watch anything anyway as long as it is vaguely sport. And D2 would be  competitive
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on May 21, 2018, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 21, 2018, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

I just can't see how they can do that unless it was played earlier on in the year and the winners made the super 8's.

The top 2 in the McDonagh make the knock out stages of the McCarthy. That hasn't stopped the competition being completely ignore by national media.
I was once in favour of a tiered championship in football (for the reason that it works well at club level) , but I am no longer. It is not the solution and will only widen the gap between the haves and have nots.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on May 21, 2018, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on May 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.


As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.
If Sky can make Stoke v Swansea on a wet Wednesday in November interesting it shouldn't be hard to jazz up D2 fuball. 
A lot of fellas will watch anything anyway as long as it is vaguely sport. And D2 would be  competitive

It won't be on tv. Look at the promises made in 2005 regarding the Christy Ring Cup and how quickly those promises disintegrated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 21, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 02:43:29 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on May 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.


As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.
If Sky can make Stoke v Swansea on a wet Wednesday in November interesting it shouldn't be hard to jazz up D2 fuball. 
A lot of fellas will watch anything anyway as long as it is vaguely sport. And D2 would be  competitive
You can't jazz up Stoke and Swansea no matter how hard sky try. Your crowd won their last provincial title as D2 level team and now you want all D2 teams away from the All Ireland championship?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on May 21, 2018, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on May 21, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 08:38:49 AM
No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.


As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.
Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.

Ladies rugby is a minority sport and helps RTE fulfil its public service remit.

A second tier GAA match wouldn't.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 09:16:10 PM
The current system is banjaxed anyway so there will be some kind of change.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on May 21, 2018, 10:09:37 PM
Just catching up on it now. Ridiculous not to show that McManus point during the 4.5 mins of highlights they showed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Soju on May 22, 2018, 04:39:44 AM
Jasus Patten S was epic on the sunday game highlights the other night. Talking utter scutter! When asked how he would solve the problem of teams having 15 players in their own half (packed defence) - he started shiting on about dance halls making no since at all.😞( you could see whelan muttering ah jasus😄) When pushed again to answer the Q he said get good forward coaches in and train the forwards to keep their head up, just keep their heads up.
😃😄 why is this gombeen still paid to talk such drivel.
Good aul ireland!
Whelan had an interesting point about cutting it to 13 a side to give more space and due to the fact players are much fitter than in the past. Personally i would like to see a few rule changes bbrought in and tried before that. Maybe a rule that every team has to have at least 3 players in the oppositions half and their own half at all times.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 09:06:47 AM
And if they break that rule......?
Defender running out of defence, his forward chasing him comes to half way line-has to stop and see how many of his fellow forwards in opposition half....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

They dont even do that with the main AI competition.

I think a tiered championship is the only way to go, but it will take serious effort from both the GAA and the broadcasters to make it work.
There also has to be a viable route to progress from the secondary competition into the Main AI, in order for it to appeal to players
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 22, 2018, 09:29:04 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 09:23:23 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

They dont even do that with the main AI competition.

I think a tiered championship is the only way to go, but it will take serious effort from both the GAA and the broadcasters to make it work.
There also has to be a viable route to progress from the secondary competition into the Main AI, in order for it to appeal to players

First of all, where do you draw the line between tiered championships? League positions? If so are promoted sides from Division 3 that spring in A or B championship? And spare me the entering at quarter final stage. Yes it is happening in hurling but in fairness, there's only 10 teams in the top tier there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
Not showing McManus's point (which is probably the score of the year) is incredible

The coverage is just so bad it's not even funny!

As for Spallane and Whelan ...Guff!!!

I used to look forward to the Sunday game now its a chore to watch it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 22, 2018, 10:47:33 AM
Quote from: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
Not showing McManus's point (which is probably the score of the year) is incredible

The coverage is just so bad it's not even funny!

As for Spallane and Whelan ...Guff!!!

I used to look forward to the Sunday game now its a chore to watch it

They didn't show McManus point? Didn't notice that.

You're right though. TSG is brutal viewing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2018, 11:42:23 AM
Pat really needs to be put out to pasture at this stage.
There's any amount of young, articulate analysts out there who could do an excellent job if they were given the chance.
They won't give you any folksy soundbites about dance halls though.
RTE's model across all sports is to have at least one person on the panel who will cause a bit of mild controversy and generate conversation.
Very few people will ever say to their workmate on a Monday morning, "Did you see that excellent bit of analysis about Mayo's kick-outs last night?", whereas they are a lot more likely to say, "Did you see Brolly going mad yesterday?"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2018, 11:42:23 AM
Pat really needs to be put out to pasture at this stage.
There's any amount of young, articulate analysts out there who could do an excellent job if they were given the chance.
They won't give you any folksy soundbites about dance halls though.
RTE's model across all sports is to have at least one person on the panel who will cause a bit of mild controversy and generate conversation.
Very few people will ever say to their workmate on a Monday morning, "Did you see that excellent bit of analysis about Mayo's kick-outs last night?", whereas they are a lot more likely to say, "Did you see Brolly going mad yesterday?"

Thats why there is probably room for a decent magazine type show midweek that offers a better analysis and review of the weekend.
Leave the oul lads to the after match sound bites and get some proper football analysis on a separate show
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 22, 2018, 11:54:44 AM
I've been saying it for years

There needs to be a mid week discussion show for the main positive talking points from the previous weekend's games

and then some sort of preview of the upcoming games.
nothing fancy, just two pundits talking to a host and increasing the coverage of games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2018, 12:01:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 22, 2018, 11:42:23 AM
Pat really needs to be put out to pasture at this stage.
There's any amount of young, articulate analysts out there who could do an excellent job if they were given the chance.
They won't give you any folksy soundbites about dance halls though.
RTE's model across all sports is to have at least one person on the panel who will cause a bit of mild controversy and generate conversation.
Very few people will ever say to their workmate on a Monday morning, "Did you see that excellent bit of analysis about Mayo's kick-outs last night?", whereas they are a lot more likely to say, "Did you see Brolly going mad yesterday?"
Free secondary education only started n the 60s in RTE 's jurisdiction. A good whack of older viewers may not be interested in tactics. That education divide is visible in music. via the medium of cowboy hats. Eugène McGee said in an interview a while ago that most of what he wrote was shite. People Ķof all ages are happy with shite. Maybe Pat does something that nobody else can.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 12:02:37 PM
Agree with the  2 posts about a midweek show.
Also just highlights on Sunday night and less bullshit blathering.
And please bring Seó Spóirt back!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 22, 2018, 12:09:38 PM
Surely there's nothing to stop eir sport producing a midweek show, clearly they don't hold any rights to show any action but there's plenty to talk about anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
RTE should get Wooly in to do a midweek show ...

not everyone likes him but he has a great knowledge of the game and all of the players even from the so called weaker counites....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: slippery dodger on May 22, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
RTE should get Wooly in to do a midweek show ...

not everyone likes him but he has a great knowledge of the game and all of the players even from the so called weaker counites....

If you just put a camera in front of the GAA Hour podcast each episode you would have 4 hours of fantastic coverage to put on RTÉ each week. It would cost RTÉ F all! I would love to see what Wooly and his guests could do if they were actually allowed analyze a bit of footage
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 22, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
RTE should get Wooly in to do a midweek show ...

not everyone likes him but he has a great knowledge of the game and all of the players even from the so called weaker counites....

If you just put a camera in front of the GAA Hour podcast each episode you would have 4 hours of fantastic coverage to put on RTÉ each week. It would cost RTÉ F all! I would love to see what Wooly and his guests could do if they were actually allowed analyze a bit of footage

Exactly.
Wooly & Cian Ward are very good on the GAA hour. I would love to see what they could do on TV with access to a bit of footage as well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 22, 2018, 01:39:30 PM
Was the dance hall story even true?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 22, 2018, 01:45:37 PM
Quote from: slippery dodger on May 22, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
Quote from: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 01:05:55 PM
RTE should get Wooly in to do a midweek show ...

not everyone likes him but he has a great knowledge of the game and all of the players even from the so called weaker counites....

If you just put a camera in front of the GAA Hour podcast each episode you would have 4 hours of fantastic coverage to put on RTÉ each week. It would cost RTÉ F all! I would love to see what Wooly and his guests could do if they were actually allowed analyze a bit of footage

Exactly, same set up as this except maybe have more of a studio feel to it so mikes etc. are less obvious.
https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/989117995896188928 (https://twitter.com/SportsJOEdotie/status/989117995896188928)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Soju on May 22, 2018, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 09:06:47 AM
And if they break that rule......?
Defender running out of defence, his forward chasing him comes to half way line-has to stop and see how many of his fellow forwards in opposition half....
Well i didn't give it much thought but each team would have to designate 3 players in attack to stay in the oppositions half full time ie full forward line. If there marker runs out of defence they can follow and tackle up until the half way line but let him go after that. It would be the same for 3 players in defense.
Maybe just have rule that the full back line and full forward line of each team can't leave their half. If they break the rule maybe a free from half way line.
It would bring back the best aspects of football before the blanket defense - quicker movement from defense to attack and more 1 on 1 situations.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 02:40:20 PM
First implement the 4 steps rule
Then restrict the fcukn  abomination of non stop throwball. (Or how about reversing the rubby rule - no backward handpassing allowed?)
No throwing the ball over the bar
No illegal  pushing the ball into the net with 2 hands.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Soju on May 22, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 02:40:20 PM
First implement the 4 steps rule
Then restrict the fcukn  abomination of non stop throwball. (Or how about reversing the rubby rule - no backward handpassing allowed?)
No throwing the ball over the bar
No illegal  pushing the ball into the net with 2 hands.
What?  No backward hand passing rule? Are u serious? That would f**k up the game as = stop start stop start.
When was throwing the ball over the bar allowed?
Those ideas are not really solving the problem!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
The real blight on the game is slow build up possession football. Seeing a team pass the ball from the corner flag back to their keeper or from the left side to the right side to the left side ad nauseum is the largest eye-sore. You shouldn't be rewarded for not trying to score.

None of the suggestions put forward tackle that problem at all. I'd put a score clock rule in place. You've a fixed amount of time to score from when you first take possession. So either 1 minute or else the more Draconian use of a 30 second rule. If you've only one forward inside then it takes much longer to work your players up the pitch to score. Teams would then keep their players stationed more evenly around the field if they were against the clock. Also if your blanket defence is only going to be in place for less than a minute I can't see it being worthwhile implementing a suffocating defence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2018, 03:00:59 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
The real blight on the game is slow build up possession football. Seeing a team pass the ball from the corner flag back to their keeper or from the left side to the right side to the left side ad nauseum is the largest eye-sore. You shouldn't be rewarded for not trying to score.

None of the suggestions put forward tackle that problem at all. I'd put a score clock rule in place. You've a fixed amount of time to score from when you first take possession. So either 1 minute or else the more Draconian use of a 30 second rule. If you've only one forward inside then it takes much longer to work your players up the pitch to score. Teams would then keep their players stationed more evenly around the field if they were against the clock. Also if your blanket defence is only going to be in place for less than a minute I can't see it being worthwhile implementing a suffocating defence.
Rugby league has something similar.  So many phases, I think, and if no score you hand over possession.
The Dubs played keep the ball for 2 or 3 minutes at the end of the last AIF
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2018, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 02:40:20 PM
First implement the 4 steps rule
Then restrict the fcukn  abomination of non stop throwball. (Or how about reversing the rubby rule - no backward handpassing allowed?)
No throwing the ball over the bar
No illegal  pushing the ball into the net with 2 hands.

Never go into any position of power. Please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
The real blight on the game is slow build up possession football. Seeing a team pass the ball from the corner flag back to their keeper or from the left side to the right side to the left side ad nauseum is the largest eye-sore. You shouldn't be rewarded for not trying to score.

None of the suggestions put forward tackle that problem at all. I'd put a score clock rule in place. You've a fixed amount of time to score from when you first take possession. So either 1 minute or else the more Draconian use of a 30 second rule. If you've only one forward inside then it takes much longer to work your players up the pitch to score. Teams would then keep their players stationed more evenly around the field if they were against the clock. Also if your blanket defence is only going to be in place for less than a minute I can't see it being worthwhile implementing a suffocating defence.

while i understand what you are trying to do here, in reality it would be almost impossible to consistently implement.

Something more basic like a  'backcourt' rule where you cant pass it back into your own half once you have crossed the halfway line, might be a better place to start
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 04:35:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2018, 03:10:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 02:40:20 PM
First implement the 4 steps rule
Then restrict the fcukn  abomination of non stop throwball. (Or how about reversing the rubby rule - no backward handpassing allowed?)
No throwing the ball over the bar
No illegal  pushing the ball into the net with 2 hands.

Never go into any position of power. Please.
Thinking of applying for a Mod position here so I can ban you 8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on May 22, 2018, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
The real blight on the game is slow build up possession football. Seeing a team pass the ball from the corner flag back to their keeper or from the left side to the right side to the left side ad nauseum is the largest eye-sore. You shouldn't be rewarded for not trying to score.

None of the suggestions put forward tackle that problem at all. I'd put a score clock rule in place. You've a fixed amount of time to score from when you first take possession. So either 1 minute or else the more Draconian use of a 30 second rule. If you've only one forward inside then it takes much longer to work your players up the pitch to score. Teams would then keep their players stationed more evenly around the field if they were against the clock. Also if your blanket defence is only going to be in place for less than a minute I can't see it being worthwhile implementing a suffocating defence.

The slow build up possession football is only a symptom of the blanket defences. It is the 13/14/15 men behind the ball defending that causes the attacking team to retain the possession going over and back probing until a gap appears in the defence.
The underlying problem is with 13+ players inside the defensive 45m line there is no space for the attacking team.  That's the problem that needs to be solved.
2 points for shots from outside the 45m line is a decent suggestion, as is 13 a-side. Any rule change needs to be easy to implement. restricting the numbers in any particular section of the pitch DURING open play is very hard to police, especially in club games where the only neutral official will be the ref.
Also, I don't think a 'shot clock' is a good option at all for 2 reasons. 1. not easy to implement at club level and 2. I actually think it would encourage more blanket defences. If a defence knows that it only has to keep the forwards out for 30 seconds (or a minute) it will encourage them to tighten things up for that minute safe in the knowledge that if they keep it tight they get the ball back.
Any rule change needs to discourage packed defences not reward them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: OgraAnDun on May 22, 2018, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 22, 2018, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
The real blight on the game is slow build up possession football. Seeing a team pass the ball from the corner flag back to their keeper or from the left side to the right side to the left side ad nauseum is the largest eye-sore. You shouldn't be rewarded for not trying to score.

None of the suggestions put forward tackle that problem at all. I'd put a score clock rule in place. You've a fixed amount of time to score from when you first take possession. So either 1 minute or else the more Draconian use of a 30 second rule. If you've only one forward inside then it takes much longer to work your players up the pitch to score. Teams would then keep their players stationed more evenly around the field if they were against the clock. Also if your blanket defence is only going to be in place for less than a minute I can't see it being worthwhile implementing a suffocating defence.

The slow build up possession football is only a symptom of the blanket defences. It is the 13/14/15 men behind the ball defending that causes the attacking team to retain the possession going over and back probing until a gap appears in the defence.
The underlying problem is with 13+ players inside the defensive 45m line there is no space for the attacking team.  That's the problem that needs to be solved.
2 points for shots from outside the 45m line is a decent suggestion, as is 13 a-side. Any rule change needs to be easy to implement. restricting the numbers in any particular section of the pitch DURING open play is very hard to police, especially in club games where the only neutral official will be the ref.
Also, I don't think a 'shot clock' is a good option at all for 2 reasons. 1. not easy to implement at club level and 2. I actually think it would encourage more blanket defences. If a defence knows that it only has to keep the forwards out for 30 seconds (or a minute) it will encourage them to tighten things up for that minute safe in the knowledge that if they keep it tight they get the ball back.
Any rule change needs to discourage packed defences not reward them.


Precisely, it would reinforce the idea of getting all your men back and breaking as fast as possible - just don't give the opposition enough space to shoot for 30/60 seconds and you get possession back, easy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Soju on May 22, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Quote from: westbound on May 22, 2018, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 02:56:26 PM
The real blight on the game is slow build up possession football. Seeing a team pass the ball from the corner flag back to their keeper or from the left side to the right side to the left side ad nauseum is the largest eye-sore. You shouldn't be rewarded for not trying to score.

None of the suggestions put forward tackle that problem at all. I'd put a score clock rule in place. You've a fixed amount of time to score from when you first take possession. So either 1 minute or else the more Draconian use of a 30 second rule. If you've only one forward inside then it takes much longer to work your players up the pitch to score. Teams would then keep their players stationed more evenly around the field if they were against the clock. Also if your blanket defence is only going to be in place for less than a minute I can't see it being worthwhile implementing a suffocating defence.

The slow build up possession football is only a symptom of the blanket defences. It is the 13/14/15 men behind the ball defending that causes the attacking team to retain the possession going over and back probing until a gap appears in the defence.
The underlying problem is with 13+ players inside the defensive 45m line there is no space for the attacking team.  That's the problem that needs to be solved.
2 points for shots from outside the 45m line is a decent suggestion, as is 13 a-side. Any rule change needs to be easy to implement. restricting the numbers in any particular section of the pitch DURING open play is very hard to police, especially in club games where the only neutral official will be the ref.
Also, I don't think a 'shot clock' is a good option at all for 2 reasons. 1. not easy to implement at club level and 2. I actually think it would encourage more blanket defences. If a defence knows that it only has to keep the forwards out for 30 seconds (or a minute) it will encourage them to tighten things up for that minute safe in the knowledge that if they keep it tight they get the ball back.
Any rule change needs to discourage packed defences not reward them.
Good points and i agree but do you have any ideas yourself?
Imo it needs to be a simple rule to implement and start with one and go from there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stall the Bailer on May 22, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
4.28 To be inside own 20m line when one's team is
taking a kick-out

This rule was added this year. I didn't see it implemented on Sunday by Colderick, in the kickout for Monaghan's goal it should have been blown for this rule as a there were at least 2 players inside the 20.
A lot of the reports I have read said he controlled the game well. But there was a few shouts for penalties for both sides, possible could have been another red and a black card. All of which could have had an impact on the result. Strange the perception is that he had a good game due how controlled it and not on the big calls.

I feel there is enough rules without adding more. Especially when many are happy when some rules are ignored
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
Something more basic like a  'backcourt' rule where you cant pass it back into your own half once you have crossed the halfway line, might be a better place to start

I considered that idea but I reckoned too many teams would be toying with the idea of crossing the half way line which would be an equally pathetic spectacle.

Quote from: OgraAnDun on May 22, 2018, 04:52:21 PM

The slow build up possession football is only a symptom of the blanket defences. It is the 13/14/15 men behind the ball defending that causes the attacking team to retain the possession going over and back probing until a gap appears in the defence.
The underlying problem is with 13+ players inside the defensive 45m line there is no space for the attacking team.  That's the problem that needs to be solved.
2 points for shots from outside the 45m line is a decent suggestion, as is 13 a-side. Any rule change needs to be easy to implement. restricting the numbers in any particular section of the pitch DURING open play is very hard to police, especially in club games where the only neutral official will be the ref.
Also, I don't think a 'shot clock' is a good option at all for 2 reasons. 1. not easy to implement at club level and 2. I actually think it would encourage more blanket defences. If a defence knows that it only has to keep the forwards out for 30 seconds (or a minute) it will encourage them to tighten things up for that minute safe in the knowledge that if they keep it tight they get the ball back.
Any rule change needs to discourage packed defences not reward them.


Precisely, it would reinforce the idea of getting all your men back and breaking as fast as possible - just don't give the opposition enough space to shoot for 30/60 seconds and you get possession back, easy.

The time clock is difficult to implement at club level and that is a serious flaw.

I think 13 a side games would lead to the further proliferation of gym monkeys as coaches would simply expect 13 players to do what the 15 once did. Also the greater amount of space would encourage guys who could run all day at the expense of fat lazy f**kers, hampering participation across the country and leaving less room on a teamsheet for a slower creative player. I fear 13 a side would mimic sevens GAA which, to my eye, is based largely on being fitter and more mobile than the opposition in an energy sapping 70 mins. I could be wrong though. Like all these things until they're trialed we'll just never really know.

You're second point isn't correct. Currently loads of players have opportunities to shoot despite being faced with a blanket defence, they choose not to as they're facing a low percentage shot and faff about with the ball until they either score somewhere else or waste the possession. It's too f**king ponderous. The score clock would force these players to face the problem head on and take the opportunity when it's presented. Players who could kick accurately whilst under pressure would become a premium commodity and mean the return of the most skillful exponents of the game.

Secondly if as you say teams just sit in a blanket for a minute then they're faced with the challenge of getting the ball the length of the pitch and scoring within 60 seconds, a tough enough ask if you've put 14 men behind the ball. You've stopped the opposition from scoring but at serious disadvantage to your own chances of scoring.

Maybe a time clock is a bollocks of a suggestion but I see very few options to disrupting the possession game with simple law changes. I can't see a "no backpass" or "keep the ball in the oppositions half" being anything but nigh unworkable.

Do me a small favour though and this weekend when you're watching a match, count the amount of times a player gets into a shooting position and opts out of it to "recycle" the ball back to a man behind him and you've to wait another 30 seconds of tedious hand-passing for the team to engineer a shot. Drives me mad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 22, 2018, 11:21:02 PM
I think there should be a Mill button for everyone in the crowd. If the game is too defensive & boring fans can press a button demanding an immediate Mill. Being the GAA a 2/3rd a majority is required. Once 66% of people push Mill button, the ball will be burst by the referee signifying that all players are required to beat the shite out of each other with the help of course of back room team and the Maor Usice. Referrees, linesmen and umpires will look at the sky during the Mill and all TV cameras will zoom in on some fine thing in the crowd.

Once the players have seen sense after the mill is complete and a few stern words are had between the ref and captains about the terrible negative football played, a free flowing wonderful game will resume.

Mill buttons will be supplied at an extra cost of 10 euro per patron with Old age Pensioners, students and U12s getting a reduced price of 9.50.

Everyone is a winner.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 23, 2018, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 22, 2018, 11:21:02 PM
I think there should be a Mill button for everyone in the crowd. If the game is too defensive & boring fans can press a button demanding an immediate Mill. Being the GAA a 2/3rd a majority is required. Once 66% of people push Mill button, the ball will be burst by the referee signifying that all players are required to beat the shite out of each other with the help of course of back room team and the Maor Usice. Referrees, linesmen and umpires will look at the sky during the Mill and all TV cameras will zoom in on some fine thing in the crowd.

Once the players have seen sense after the mill is complete and a few stern words are had between the ref and captains about the terrible negative football played, a free flowing wonderful game will resume.

Mill buttons will be supplied at an extra cost of 10 euro per patron with Old age Pensioners, students and U12s getting a reduced price of 9.50.

Everyone is a winner.

;D ;D

Best suggestion yet
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on May 23, 2018, 09:26:03 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 22, 2018, 11:21:02 PM
I think there should be a Mill button for everyone in the crowd. If the game is too defensive & boring fans can press a button demanding an immediate Mill. Being the GAA a 2/3rd a majority is required. Once 66% of people push Mill button, the ball will be burst by the referee signifying that all players are required to beat the shite out of each other with the help of course of back room team and the Maor Usice. Referrees, linesmen and umpires will look at the sky during the Mill and all TV cameras will zoom in on some fine thing in the crowd.

Once the players have seen sense after the mill is complete and a few stern words are had between the ref and captains about the terrible negative football played, a free flowing wonderful game will resume.

Mill buttons will be supplied at an extra cost of 10 euro per patron with Old age Pensioners, students and U12s getting a reduced price of 9.50.

Everyone is a winner.

There won't be many mills in Breffni Park.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on May 23, 2018, 06:51:59 PM
Quote from: trileacman on May 22, 2018, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 22, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
Something more basic like a  'backcourt' rule where you cant pass it back into your own half once you have crossed the halfway line, might be a better place to start

I considered that idea but I reckoned too many teams would be toying with the idea of crossing the half way line which would be an equally pathetic spectacle.

Quote from: OgraAnDun on May 22, 2018, 04:52:21 PM

The slow build up possession football is only a symptom of the blanket defences. It is the 13/14/15 men behind the ball defending that causes the attacking team to retain the possession going over and back probing until a gap appears in the defence.
The underlying problem is with 13+ players inside the defensive 45m line there is no space for the attacking team.  That's the problem that needs to be solved.
2 points for shots from outside the 45m line is a decent suggestion, as is 13 a-side. Any rule change needs to be easy to implement. restricting the numbers in any particular section of the pitch DURING open play is very hard to police, especially in club games where the only neutral official will be the ref.
Also, I don't think a 'shot clock' is a good option at all for 2 reasons. 1. not easy to implement at club level and 2. I actually think it would encourage more blanket defences. If a defence knows that it only has to keep the forwards out for 30 seconds (or a minute) it will encourage them to tighten things up for that minute safe in the knowledge that if they keep it tight they get the ball back.
Any rule change needs to discourage packed defences not reward them.


Precisely, it would reinforce the idea of getting all your men back and breaking as fast as possible - just don't give the opposition enough space to shoot for 30/60 seconds and you get possession back, easy.

The time clock is difficult to implement at club level and that is a serious flaw.

I think 13 a side games would lead to the further proliferation of gym monkeys as coaches would simply expect 13 players to do what the 15 once did. Also the greater amount of space would encourage guys who could run all day at the expense of fat lazy f**kers, hampering participation across the country and leaving less room on a teamsheet for a slower creative player. I fear 13 a side would mimic sevens GAA which, to my eye, is based largely on being fitter and more mobile than the opposition in an energy sapping 70 mins. I could be wrong though. Like all these things until they're trialed we'll just never really know.

You're second point isn't correct. Currently loads of players have opportunities to shoot despite being faced with a blanket defence, they choose not to as they're facing a low percentage shot and faff about with the ball until they either score somewhere else or waste the possession. It's too f**king ponderous. The score clock would force these players to face the problem head on and take the opportunity when it's presented. Players who could kick accurately whilst under pressure would become a premium commodity and mean the return of the most skillful exponents of the game.

Secondly if as you say teams just sit in a blanket for a minute then they're faced with the challenge of getting the ball the length of the pitch and scoring within 60 seconds, a tough enough ask if you've put 14 men behind the ball. You've stopped the opposition from scoring but at serious disadvantage to your own chances of scoring.

Maybe a time clock is a bollocks of a suggestion but I see very few options to disrupting the possession game with simple law changes. I can't see a "no backpass" or "keep the ball in the oppositions half" being anything but nigh unworkable.

Do me a small favour though and this weekend when you're watching a match, count the amount of times a player gets into a shooting position and opts out of it to "recycle" the ball back to a man behind him and you've to wait another 30 seconds of tedious hand-passing for the team to engineer a shot. Drives me mad.

Indeed. I do like Itchy's ingenious mill button idea but I have an even more revolutionary proposal. Imagine if some forward thinking (literally) county coach decided to quit spending two hours a night three times a week and three hours on a Saturday teaching his players whereabouts to hang about in their own half when the opposition has the ball and how to make sure they stay behind the ball carrier when their own team has the ball.

Instead suppose he gave all his players a ball each and spent all that time letting them practice shooting from 40-60 metres, maybe with a few lads from local clubs brought in to hang out of them while they do it. (Steaks for the club lads after training too - only fair.)

What would their opposition blanket defence do in the first championship match of the season as points rained over from lads who had been practising the primary skill of football for nine months?

I know. Kicking the ball? Am I mad?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 17, 2018, 01:50:51 PM
Ger Canning on commentary after doing game in Russia Friday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on June 17, 2018, 02:54:22 PM
Pity he didn't stay there!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
The World Cup gets RTE2 + HD; Sunday Game RTE 1 + a fuzzy picture, hard to see the sliothar
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
The World Cup gets RTE2 + HD; Sunday Game RTE 1 + a fuzzy picture, hard to see the sliothar

don't know what you're tuned  to but I'm watching RTE One HD
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
The World Cup gets RTE2 + HD; Sunday Game RTE 1 + a fuzzy picture, hard to see the sliothar

don't know what you're tuned  to but I'm watching RTE One HD

On Sky channel 161; is there another channel with HD?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
The World Cup gets RTE2 + HD; Sunday Game RTE 1 + a fuzzy picture, hard to see the sliothar

don't know what you're tuned  to but I'm watching RTE One HD

On Sky channel 161; is there another channel with HD?

Don't know about the North to be honest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:31:20 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
The World Cup gets RTE2 + HD; Sunday Game RTE 1 + a fuzzy picture, hard to see the sliothar

don't know what you're tuned  to but I'm watching RTE One HD

On Sky channel 161; is there another channel with HD?


oh you're in the north? can't answer so, I'm watching on virgin media in Dublin
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 17, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Gooch analysis is poor. Highlights Ciaran Murtagh scoring a point against Leitrim when it was actually his brother Diarmuid :roll_eyes:
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on June 17, 2018, 04:10:11 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:28:09 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Quote from: befair on June 17, 2018, 03:08:32 PM
The World Cup gets RTE2 + HD; Sunday Game RTE 1 + a fuzzy picture, hard to see the sliothar

don't know what you're tuned  to but I'm watching RTE One HD

On Sky channel 161; is there another channel with HD?

I've both, fuzzy vision on Virgin, but switched to the aerial (digital roof job) input and it's in HD (in the black north)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 04:29:55 PM
Marty is a mifhty man for letting us know the clubs of the players surely.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 04:45:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 04:29:55 PM
Marty is a mifhty man for letting us know the clubs of the players surely.

Usual geography lesson missing so far.

Dessie being his usual captain obvious
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 06:51:26 PM
Was listening to the game in the car and I have to say Cora Staunton was excellent on co-commentary.
A breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 06:56:18 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 06:51:26 PM
Was listening to the game in the car and I have to say Cora Staunton was excellent on co-commentary.
A breath of fresh air.

Nice to hear that.
Good for her.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 17, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
Joanne Cantwell takes no shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mac2 on June 17, 2018, 08:04:03 PM
WTF is it with RTE commentators getting the teams mixed up, they do it time and again. Marty mixing up  Galway and Roscommon, Canning saying Limerick put over the point to put the score at 10-8, it was Clare and the score was 11-7.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 17, 2018, 08:12:29 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on June 17, 2018, 08:04:03 PM
WTF is it with RTE commentators getting the teams mixed up, they do it time and again. Marty mixing up  Galway and Roscommon, Canning saying Limerick put over the point to put the score at 10-8, it was Clare and the score was 11-7.

Canning in Russia calling it in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on June 17, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
The coverage and commentary is just so dated at this stage.

Even naming players by their nickname, like WTF...'bubbles' etc
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 08:51:38 PM
The whole package of Gaelic football is dying from the rules of game, the game itself, the spectacle, the negative tactics, the back door, the super 8, the dominance of Dublin to the TV coverage or lack of it this year. In regards the Sunday Game it's like sponsorship/advertising has abandoned our game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
I've no problem with the lack of coverage this year.
Which, in itself, is kind of depressing.
I just don't care anymore.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on June 17, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
Parsons has his homework done
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2018, 09:56:06 PM
Blocked in Ulster ??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 17, 2018, 09:56:36 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 17, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
Parsons has his homework done

+1 . Which is unusual for a RTE football pundit. Ciaran Whelan has decent knowledge. The rest are of cliches and waffle. I think we will see more of Parsons this year in the studio
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2018, 09:57:49 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 17, 2018, 09:56:36 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 17, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
Parsons has his homework done

+1 . Which is unusual for a RTE football pundit. Ciaran Whelan has decent knowledge. The rest are of cliches and waffle. I think we will see more of Parsons this year in the studio

I dunno, it doesent seem to be performance related with RTE
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 10:05:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
I've no problem with the lack of coverage this year.
Which, in itself, is kind of depressing.
I just don't care anymore.

Yeah, there is that general feeling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nanderson on June 17, 2018, 10:10:56 PM
Anyone else's Sky blocked The Sunday Game? F**king joke if they start this craic up north
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on June 17, 2018, 10:11:27 PM
Geoblocked in the north on sky, probably from the Brazil game and some tit has forgot to switch it back on afterwards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2018, 10:22:06 PM
My thinking too. Muppets.

People get very quick to call it partitionist etc on twitter but it is more likely incompetence. At least we have tg4 tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on June 17, 2018, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 17, 2018, 10:22:06 PM
My thinking too. Muppets.

People get very quick to call it partitionist etc on twitter but it is more likely incompetence. At least we have tg4 tomorrow.

Less said about some of the absolute doses on twitter the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on June 17, 2018, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on June 17, 2018, 10:10:56 PM
Anyone else's Sky blocked The Sunday Game? F**king joke if they start this craic up north

Yes. Joke
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SHEEDY on June 17, 2018, 10:34:32 PM
Sunday game blocked tonight, fecking joke.  >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 10:59:01 PM
Don't panic Ye missed nothing lads
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 11:06:16 PM
Except Tom Parson's gorgeous hair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 18, 2018, 12:24:20 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
I've no problem with the lack of coverage this year.
Which, in itself, is kind of depressing.
I just don't care anymore.

I finally got around to seeing last weeks Sunday game.
Other than Ciaráin Whelan it is cringeworthy.
Last week, he was in the middle of giving a decent analysis, Spillane cuts him off with,
" I would like to say well done to the Laois lad for playing the week after his father passed"
He stops, and Whelan continues his analysis.
Spillanes comments were so out of context with the analysis, yet he could not wait until Whelan had finished.

Did not see tonight's version, hopefully the folks at RTE will finally figure out the spoofers and send them packing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on June 18, 2018, 12:28:43 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2018, 11:06:16 PM
Except Tom Parson's gorgeous hair.

I had hair like that once. Must get the wedding album back out for the look.
I meant to ask you Jinxy. What's the story with hair in Meath?

Mickey Burke is still playing for Meath? In the forwards? In his defence I'd say he is from Mayo refugee stock with a name like that. Mayo Burkes can play ball too and can be hairy and a bit thorny as well.
Yer gone and all that and only got a glimpse of Tyrone or some game, but I could have sworn I saw a Meath player with a bun. What is going on there? That cant be right. Surely there are enough skulling gates in the county to nip that kind of thing in the bud?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
(https://m0.sportsjoe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/30215148/inpho_00013070.jpg)

This is a perfect example of a standard-issue championship haircut.
Zero maintenance and zero wind-resistance.
We need to get back to this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 09:39:28 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 09:36:10 AM
(https://m0.sportsjoe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/30215148/inpho_00013070.jpg)

This is a perfect example of a standard-issue championship haircut.
Zero maintenance and zero wind-resistance.
We need to get back to this.

What about Championship beards, the Rossie goalie was very well groomed?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 18, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.
I live in the north. I watched the hurling on RTE 1 HD. Not sure why there was soccer on yours.
I was able to watch the Sunday Game.

I think the problem only occurred if you access RTE through the likes of Sky.

I didn't think there was an RTE1 HD. Don't think there is on Sky anyway
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 18, 2018, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 10:13:24 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.
I live in the north. I watched the hurling on RTE 1 HD. Not sure why there was soccer on yours.
I was able to watch the Sunday Game.

I think the problem only occurred if you access RTE through the likes of Sky.

I didn't think there was an RTE1 HD. Don't think there is on Sky anyway
I access RTE through the aerial. There definitely is RTE 1 HD.

You could both be right.
RTÉ Saorview from Clermont Cairn is indeed HD. GFA RTÉ from NI transmitters is not HD, as far as I know.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 18, 2018, 10:17:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 10:13:24 AM
Quote from: Minder on June 18, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.
I live in the north. I watched the hurling on RTE 1 HD. Not sure why there was soccer on yours.
I was able to watch the Sunday Game.

I think the problem only occurred if you access RTE through the likes of Sky.

I didn't think there was an RTE1 HD. Don't think there is on Sky anyway
I access RTE through the aerial. There definitely is RTE 1 HD.

You could both be right.
RTÉ Saorview from Clermont Cairn is indeed HD. GFA RTÉ from NI transmitters is not HD, as far as I know.

That's correct
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 10:39:38 AM
If you're paying for a SKY subscription, and you don't have SKY sports, you would want your head examined.
Just get a freeview box and you'll have everything you need.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on June 18, 2018, 11:03:14 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Hold on, or howl on howl on as the boy Brolly would say..is Sky not the problem above in points 1 and 3? I've rte 1 and 2 in glorious HD. Was able to watch the hurling and football on HD, and The Sunday Game last night...I live in the north and don't have Sky
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 18, 2018, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league
Or Home & Away.
I like Home and Away. Don't diss it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on June 18, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league

I think there are parts where sky is the only way to access RTE. No saorview signal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 18, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league

I think there are parts where sky is the only way to access RTE. No saorview signal.

Yes Sky is only option for some to get RTE
If so go for a sky box registered to an address in the South if u can
No blue screening then
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 18, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 18, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league

I think there are parts where sky is the only way to access RTE. No saorview signal.

No saorview or NI RTÉ signal? You could get Saorsat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 18, 2018, 01:41:17 PM
The analysis was poor from O'Se last night, the one stat they did show didn't cover all the kickouts ans then what was that nonsense about Connacht team of the championship. Des still clearly has friends in high places, he's just dreadful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 18, 2018, 01:42:49 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 18, 2018, 01:41:17 PM
The analysis was poor from O'Se last night, the one stat they did show didn't cover all the kickouts ans then what was that nonsense about Connacht team of the championship. Des still clearly has friends in high places, he's just dreadful.

Look I suppose it might have been !
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 18, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league

I think there are parts where sky is the only way to access RTE. No saorview signal.

Yes Sky is only option for some to get RTE
If so go for a sky box registered to an address in the South if u can
No blue screening then

If you got a freeview combi box and connected it to the SKY dish, which is already aligned, surely you would get RTE?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 18, 2018, 02:10:50 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 18, 2018, 01:41:17 PM
The analysis was poor from O'Se last night, the one stat they did show didn't cover all the kickouts ans then what was that nonsense about Connacht team of the championship. Des still clearly has friends in high places, he's just dreadful.
Yes I don't see the point in a team of the championship, given there were so few games involved (and the London/NY games probably not even considered anyway). Only one played three and two were high profile so if they played anyway well they'd be in. Ridiculous.

Was there analysis of the camogie two minutes highlights? Missed that bit if there was but if there wasn't what was the point in having Ann Marie Hayes there? TSG is bad enough as it is without going down the token woman on the panel route too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on June 18, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on June 18, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 18, 2018, 09:42:33 AM
So - This is a summary of RTE, The National Broadcaster's performance yesterday.
1 - Put soccer on HD on RTE1 and a crucial hurling championship match on non HD.
2 - Went to a break for news and a lengthy series of advertisements  at half time during the Connaught final
3 - Blocked the signal from users in the north for The Sunday Game last night.

Not a great performance overall.  No wonder we need SKY.

Sky is the problem here. It was sky who blocked the programme
The hurling was on HD yesterday
Lesson: don't rely on Sky for your GAA coverage on RTE. If you can, get an aerial and Saorview box or enabled TV. Aerial set up for about £150/200 and there will be no 'blue screening' of GAA and champions league

I think there are parts where sky is the only way to access RTE. No saorview signal.

Yes Sky is only option for some to get RTE
If so go for a sky box registered to an address in the South if u can
No blue screening then

If you got a freeview combi box and connected it to the SKY dish, which is already aligned, surely you would get RTE?

Not familiar with they combi box set up
With Sky it's not the dish which is aligned, it's the viewing card plus your box
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 02:19:03 PM
I mean physically aligned, i.e. it's already pointing at the same satellite you would use for freeview.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 18, 2018, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
If you got a freeview combi box and connected it to the SKY dish, which is already aligned, surely you would get RTE?

That would imply that RTÉ was on Freesat or Free to Air, which is not true (and couldn't be true otherwise everyone in England would watch Champions League on RTÉ).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 03:12:12 PM
Can you not get saorview up there?
I have a saorview/freesat combi box, so was wondering would it work up North instead of a SKY box.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
Jesus the amount of halfwits online would amaze you with this geoblocking saga ... it's Croke Park's fault for selling the rights to Sky apparently!!

If you tried to explain it to them their heads might explode!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Stall the Bailer on June 18, 2018, 09:08:55 PM
Freesat and saorsat come from two different satellites. Much of the north can't get soarview but can get soarsat with the correct dish setup.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on June 18, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
Jesus the amount of halfwits online would amaze you with this geoblocking saga ... it's Croke Park's fault for selling the rights to Sky apparently!!

If you tried to explain it to them their heads might explode!!

Sky don't have the rights for champions league games but they get blocked too
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on June 18, 2018, 09:58:53 PM
Reading on twitter that the Sunday Game is also geoblocked on the RTE player. A roaring disgrace is what this is and just shows the level of contempt by people in charge of both the GAA for allowing this to happen and RTE for making it happen towards the north.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 18, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
Jesus the amount of halfwits online would amaze you with this geoblocking saga ... it's Croke Park's fault for selling the rights to Sky apparently!!

If you tried to explain it to them their heads might explode!!

Sky don't have the rights for champions league games but they get blocked too

Yes because BT hold the rights to show CL games in the UK... RTÉ even though available in the UK have to have these geoblocked as well as they are only allowed to show these games in Ireland.

The issue is that the geoblocking "department" went home before the Sunday Game so forgot to turn it back on again after the WC had finished.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
PS. A Firestick and an iptv subscription works every time at a fraction of the cost... head on over to the Non gAA section and there's plenty of explanations!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 18, 2018, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
PS. A Firestick and an iptv subscription works every time at a fraction of the cost... head on over to the Non gAA section and there's plenty of explanations!

Exactly and if anyone needs help just pm me
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on June 18, 2018, 10:52:12 PM
Quotethat nonsense about Connacht team of the championship

Jesus didn't know they had that on. I can't wait for the Leinster team of the championship
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on June 18, 2018, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 18, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
Jesus the amount of halfwits online would amaze you with this geoblocking saga ... it's Croke Park's fault for selling the rights to Sky apparently!!

If you tried to explain it to them their heads might explode!!

Sky don't have the rights for champions league games but they get blocked too

Yes because BT hold the rights to show CL games in the UK... RTÉ even though available in the UK have to have these geoblocked as well as they are only allowed to show these games in Ireland.

The issue is that the geoblocking "department" went home before the Sunday Game so forgot to turn it back on again after the WC had finished.

Stop speaking sense. Its all a anti-nordie conspiracy by GAA/Sky/Murdoch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 18, 2018, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 18, 2018, 10:52:12 PM
Quotethat nonsense about Connacht team of the championship

Jesus didn't know they had that on. I can't wait for the Leinster team of the championship

Yeah, that was gas! You could hear the sniggers off camera from Plámás! Has to be one the silliest lists ever!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Clinker on June 19, 2018, 05:00:59 AM
https://www.google.ie/search?q=the+sunday+game+sky+news&ei=fX8oW9v9FITWU8yHmugM&start=0&sa=N&biw=1093&bih=494
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on June 19, 2018, 09:46:41 AM
Are SKY blaming RTE though?
That's how I interpret the statement, i.e. they weren't given the right list.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on June 19, 2018, 09:49:11 AM
There is some shite spouted on this issue, i see Niall O'Donnaighle from SF is gonna raise this matter in the Seanad and this is "digital partition", this must be about the fifth time I have seen someone from SF talking about the issue and not having the first clue about it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
It is digital partition. There's absolutely no excuse for the live games and for the Sunday game not to be available in 32 counties on whatever platform you want. The Rte player being geoblocked is particularly galling
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 19, 2018, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
It is digital partition. There's absolutely no excuse for the live games and for the Sunday game not to be available in 32 counties on whatever platform you want. The Rte player being geoblocked is particularly galling
People in the 26 are/should be paying €160 for a tv licence.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 19, 2018, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
It is digital partition. There's absolutely no excuse for the live games and for the Sunday game not to be available in 32 counties on whatever platform you want. The Rte player being geoblocked is particularly galling

The RTÉ player is not geoblocked from NI, except for certain soccer games and drama series. It is not geoblocked for GAA. if it doesn't work it because your ISP does not locate you in NI, which is not RTÉ's fault, it is the GAA who sold the GB rights to someone else. But people continually bollock RTÉ and never think of changing ISP, which is their own responsibility.
What has "Niall O'Donnaighle from SF" done to ensure that IP numbers are properly geocoded in NI?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 19, 2018, 01:41:00 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
It is digital partition. There's absolutely no excuse for the live games and for the Sunday game not to be available in 32 counties on whatever platform you want. The Rte player being geoblocked is particularly galling
People in the 26 are/should be paying €160 for a tv licence.

And they get BBC free which people in the 6 are paying £147 a year for.

Your point is?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 19, 2018, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
It is digital partition. There's absolutely no excuse for the live games and for the Sunday game not to be available in 32 counties on whatever platform you want. The Rte player being geoblocked is particularly galling

The RTÉ player is not geoblocked from NI, except for certain soccer games and drama series. It is not geoblocked for GAA. if it doesn't work it because your ISP does not locate you in NI, which is not RTÉ's fault, it is the GAA who sold the GB rights to someone else. But people continually bollock RTÉ and never think of changing ISP, which is their own responsibility.
What has "Niall O'Donnaighle from SF" done to ensure that IP numbers are properly geocoded in NI?

The Sunday game was geoblocked this weekend in NI, that's a fact Whether it was because of an ISP or not doesn't matter a damn to me. If RTE wanted they could put in a workaround very easily to stop that from being an issue. Allow people to register and enter their postcode for example.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 19, 2018, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 05:47:02 PM
And they get BBC free which people in the 6 are paying £147 a year for.

How come the BBC cannot show proportionally a similar number of games to RTÉ then?


Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
The Sunday game was geoblocked this weekend in NI, that's a fact Whether it was because of an ISP or not doesn't matter a damn to me.

You are the person choosing the ISP.


QuoteIf RTE wanted they could put in a workaround very easily to stop that from being an issue. Allow people to register and enter their postcode for example.

People would register with false postcodes from every part of the world, in that case.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on June 19, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 19, 2018, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:07:58 PM
It is digital partition. There's absolutely no excuse for the live games and for the Sunday game not to be available in 32 counties on whatever platform you want. The Rte player being geoblocked is particularly galling

The RTÉ player is not geoblocked from NI, except for certain soccer games and drama series. It is not geoblocked for GAA. if it doesn't work it because your ISP does not locate you in NI, which is not RTÉ's fault, it is the GAA who sold the GB rights to someone else. But people continually bollock RTÉ and never think of changing ISP, which is their own responsibility.
What has "Niall O'Donnaighle from SF" done to ensure that IP numbers are properly geocoded in NI?

Can you name an isp available in the north which isn't geoblocked? Is anybody out there using one? Bt is my provider, I'm very happy with them but it is geoblocked unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveherlong on June 19, 2018, 10:44:49 PM
Any way of side loading the RTE player App onto a iOS device registered in NI?
Only international version available in App Store it seems?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 20, 2018, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
PS. A Firestick and an iptv subscription works every time at a fraction of the cost... head on over to the Non gAA section and there's plenty of explanations!

I've used mobdro with Chromecast and it's constantly buffering or stream going offline - would be unusable for day to day TV.  how reliable is IPTV with the firestick? I realise this is the wrong thread for this conversation so if there's a better thread, can you post a link?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on June 20, 2018, 04:21:39 PM
I use mobdro through my firestick and as long as you always install updates it's works deadly. I have watched full games in both RTE and Sky recently with it.

The only downside is the picture quality is a bit crap which makes the hurling hard to watch but found it perfectly fine for football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on June 21, 2018, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 20, 2018, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
PS. A Firestick and an iptv subscription works every time at a fraction of the cost... head on over to the Non gAA section and there's plenty of explanations!

I've used mobdro with Chromecast and it's constantly buffering or stream going offline - would be unusable for day to day TV.  how reliable is IPTV with the firestick? I realise this is the wrong thread for this conversation so if there's a better thread, can you post a link?

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=26091.msg1816440#new (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=26091.msg1816440#new)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on June 21, 2018, 07:55:58 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 20, 2018, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 18, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
PS. A Firestick and an iptv subscription works every time at a fraction of the cost... head on over to the Non gAA section and there's plenty of explanations!

I've used mobdro with Chromecast and it's constantly buffering or stream going offline - would be unusable for day to day TV.  how reliable is IPTV with the firestick? I realise this is the wrong thread for this conversation so if there's a better thread, can you post a link?
Have Iptv set up on both a Linux box (for the main tv) and a fire stick (alternating between TVs).
Both work extremely well.
Fire stick is a great job when going abroad as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 24, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Great 'coverage' of 6 qualifiers. Farcical.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Under Lights on June 24, 2018, 10:30:12 PM
Some coverage there of the qualifiers. Jesus Christ, just let the counties do their own video clips of that's all your going to promote the games with
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2018, 10:34:09 PM
All football up to Super 8 is a nuisance to the TV Companies coverage and advertising revenue wise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
Why did Offaly change their jerseys at half time today?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on June 24, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
Why did Offaly change their jerseys at half time today?

Paul rouse wanted to make a historical statement to add to the shite he has spouted for the last month.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 24, 2018, 10:47:53 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
Why did Offaly change their jerseys at half time today?

The heat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 24, 2018, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 24, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Great 'coverage' of 6 qualifiers. Farcical.
Should you not be drowning your sorrows?
In fairness they said they covered the qualifier highlights in the live show. I was only dipping in and out so don't know how much they showed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LooseCannon on June 24, 2018, 11:34:56 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 24, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
Why did Offaly change their jerseys at half time today?

Paul rouse wanted to make a historical statement to add to the shite he has spouted for the last month.....
f**k off.
That man did not take a penny. Not even to reimburse him for diesel, etc. None of the management did. I hope that he stays on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on June 24, 2018, 11:38:00 PM
In fairness it's a pile of shite. So they now expect people to sit around all Sunday afternoon to catch whatever crumb of highlight they may or may not show after Brolly and Co finish 'analysis' of latest Dublin walkover. Pot luck at what time theyll squeeze it in. Im assuming they put it on in direct opposition to the 6 News? Great idea that. If this is their new format, what's the point in the evening package? Just a rerun of the games that were shown live? Bullshit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: In hiding on June 25, 2018, 12:01:16 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 24, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
Why did Offaly change their jerseys at half time today?

Paul rouse wanted to make a historical statement to add to the shite he has spouted for the last month.....
Did he steal your girlfriend at college or something ??
He sounded fairly passionate in the interview. Gotta love a bit of passion
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 12:53:41 AM
 
Quote from: Orchard park on June 24, 2018, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
Why did Offaly change their jerseys at half time today?

Paul rouse wanted to make a historical statement to add to the shite he has spouted for the last month.....

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 25, 2018, 08:48:30 AM
Quote from: LilySavage on June 24, 2018, 11:38:00 PM
In fairness it's a pile of shite. So they now expect people to sit around all Sunday afternoon to catch whatever crumb of highlight they may or may not show after Brolly and Co finish 'analysis' of latest Dublin walkover. Pot luck at what time theyll squeeze it in. Im assuming they put it on in direct opposition to the 6 News? Great idea that. If this is their new format, what's the point in the evening package? Just a rerun of the games that were shown live? Bullshit.

The whole thing is so lazy and poorly thought out.
The sooner tv3 or tg4 get the rights to the football and put some effort into it the better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 01, 2018, 02:33:46 PM
The sunday game live, Munster hurling final, Marty had to wait about 17 minutes before delivering his classic line
"listen to the banner roar!!!"
after a Clare goal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 01, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
What the f**k is "back lift?"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Over the Bar on July 02, 2018, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 01, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
What the f**k is "back lift?"
It's when you raise the Sam via the qualifiers...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 02, 2018, 12:59:12 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 01, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
What the f**k is "back lift?"

I wondered that myself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on July 09, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Saturday July 14th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

3pm - Clare vs Wexford @ Pairc Ui Chaoimh on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 2)

5pm - Roscommon vs Tyrone @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

7pm - Donegal vs Dublin @ Croke Park on RTÉ

Sunday July 15th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

2pm - Limerick vs Kilkenny @ Semple Stadium on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 1)

2pm - Kildare vs Monaghan @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

4pm - Kerry vs Galway @ Croke Park on RTÉ


Two games being televised at the same time. One on RTÉ and the other on SKY. I thought that wasn't allowed!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 09, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Saturday July 14th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

3pm - Clare vs Wexford @ Pairc Ui Chaoimh on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 2)

5pm - Roscommon vs Tyrone @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

7pm - Donegal vs Dublin @ Croke Park on RTÉ

Sunday July 15th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

2pm - Limerick vs Kilkenny @ Semple Stadium on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 1)

2pm - Kildare vs Monaghan @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

4pm - Kerry vs Galway @ Croke Park on RTÉ


Two games being televised at the same time. One on RTÉ and the other on SKY. I thought that wasn't allowed!

They also said they could only show so many games hence why Tyrone & Monaghan couldn't be covered, their making it up as they go along as usual.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shark on July 09, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 09, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Saturday July 14th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

3pm - Clare vs Wexford @ Pairc Ui Chaoimh on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 2)

5pm - Roscommon vs Tyrone @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

7pm - Donegal vs Dublin @ Croke Park on RTÉ

Sunday July 15th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

2pm - Limerick vs Kilkenny @ Semple Stadium on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 1)

2pm - Kildare vs Monaghan @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

4pm - Kerry vs Galway @ Croke Park on RTÉ


Two games being televised at the same time. One on RTÉ and the other on SKY. I thought that wasn't allowed!

They also said they could only show so many games hence why Tyrone & Monaghan couldn't be covered, their making it up as they go along as usual.

It's true that they can only show a certain number of games. The glut of games now is the reason why so few provincial games were covered.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2018, 02:35:55 PM
Quote from: shark on July 09, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 09, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
Saturday July 14th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

3pm - Clare vs Wexford @ Pairc Ui Chaoimh on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 2)

5pm - Roscommon vs Tyrone @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

7pm - Donegal vs Dublin @ Croke Park on RTÉ

Sunday July 15th
All-Ireland Hurling Championship quarter-final

2pm - Limerick vs Kilkenny @ Semple Stadium on RTÉ

All-Ireland Football Championship quarter-finals (Super 8 Group 1)

2pm - Kildare vs Monaghan @ Croke Park on Sky Sports

4pm - Kerry vs Galway @ Croke Park on RTÉ


Two games being televised at the same time. One on RTÉ and the other on SKY. I thought that wasn't allowed!

They also said they could only show so many games hence why Tyrone & Monaghan couldn't be covered, their making it up as they go along as usual.

It's true that they can only show a certain number of games. The glut of games now is the reason why so few provincial games were covered.

In their initial schedule they stated they'd be showing either the hurling quarter finals or 2 of the super 8 games so surprised to see their showing all 4 games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 09, 2018, 04:41:33 PM
For once I'm not going to blame RTE for something here. The scheduling this year is as bad as I can remember for any sporting event in history. That goes from the preseason stuff to the league, the colleges, the minors & U21 right through to the championship. The need for a proper calendar to be done is plain and obvious for everyone apart from the people who's job it is to do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 09, 2018, 04:46:41 PM
Everyone clamoured for a tightening of the Inter County seasoname and earlier AI Finals to make more room for Club fixtures.
The CPA wanted a County free April.
We then voted for a revised football Championship with 8 extra games over 2 extra weekends.
Then the hurley folks wanted more games in their Championships so they got 13 or 14 extra games.

So sin é.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 09, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
SKY needs to be kicked into touch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on July 09, 2018, 04:50:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 09, 2018, 04:46:41 PM
Everyone clamoured for a tightening of the Inter County seasoname and earlier AI Finals to make more room for Club fixtures.
The CPA wanted a County free April.
We then voted for a revised football Championship with 8 extra games over 2 extra weekends.
Then the hurley folks wanted more games in their Championships so they got 13 or 14 extra games.

So sin é.

Yep!
This is exactly what we asked for, but we'll complain about it anyway. Typical GAA!

And seemingly some oddballs think it's all Sky's fault!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 09, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 09, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
SKY needs to be kicked into touch.

Why??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 09, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 09, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 09, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
SKY needs to be kicked into touch.

Why??

GAA games shouldn't be behind an exclusive pay wall
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2018, 06:17:14 PM

What about the Monaghan Laois game at the weekend - it was behind an exclusive pay wall and wasn't on Sky?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: longballin on July 09, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
where was it on? I didn't see it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 09, 2018, 06:44:17 PM
An awful lot of  games are played behind walls and you have to play to get in to see them ;D.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 11:10:38 PM
Good to see Dublin finally getting pulled about having a blanket defence. They've been using it for a while.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 15, 2018, 11:14:24 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 09, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 09, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 09, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
SKY needs to be kicked into touch.

Why??

GAA games shouldn't be behind an exclusive pay wall

Is the TV licence free?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 15, 2018, 11:43:31 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 11:10:38 PM
Good to see Dublin finally getting pulled about having a blanket defence. They've been using it for a while.

Ive been saying it for a while. Whelan still putting a spin on it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 16, 2018, 12:36:44 AM
'The Hurling Game',  RTE2 every Sunday 9.30 to 10.30.

Followed by 'The Graveyard Slot': a round-up of that other GAA sport played by the majority.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2018, 12:57:06 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 16, 2018, 12:36:44 AM
'The Hurling Game',  RTE2 every Sunday 9.30 to 10.30.

Followed by 'The Graveyard Slot': a round-up of that other GAA sport played by the majority.

'The Graveyard Slot' comprises of everyone talking up the new challengers even though we know they're all shite. And playing down Dublin!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 16, 2018, 01:45:13 AM
Just watched the coverage from the Dublin v Donegal game. I wonder what Lee Keegan would be like as a pundit?  We didn't find out yesterday as he couldn't get a word in with Brolly there to make everyone's point for them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 16, 2018, 09:52:26 AM
Quote from: longballin on July 09, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 09, 2018, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: longballin on July 09, 2018, 04:47:27 PM
SKY needs to be kicked into touch.

Why??

GAA games shouldn't be behind an exclusive pay wall

Judging by the spectacle of games these days, all games should be put behind a pay wall to stop us suffering watching the feckin' thing!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 16, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
Holy sweet fcuk will someone, somewhere do something about Spillane. He genuinely sounds like a stuck music track. He just spurts out buzzwords like intensity, drive, hunger, speed whilst banging his fist into his other hand. He makes no valid attempts at analysis and is so far past his sell by date you would feel bad putting him out on the discount shelf in ASDA.

Once again Canavan, McGuiness et al blew RTE totally out of orbit with their analysis. The alternative camera angles, long distance full pitch shots analysed by Canavan really give you a feeling of being at the game and seeing things you would normally miss on TV.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 16, 2018, 11:33:26 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
Holy sweet fcuk will someone, somewhere do something about Spillane. He genuinely sounds like a stuck music track. He just spurts out buzzwords like intensity, drive, hunger, speed whilst banging his fist into his other hand. He makes no valid attempts at analysis and is so far past his sell by date you would feel bad putting him out on the discount shelf in ASDA.

Once again Canavan, McGuiness et al blew RTE totally out of orbit with their analysis. The alternative camera angles, long distance full pitch shots analysed by Canavan really give you a feeling of being at the game and seeing things you would normally miss on TV.

People are fooling themselves if they think Sky's lads are much better. Michael Meehan has been very good.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 16, 2018, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
Holy sweet fcuk will someone, somewhere do something about Spillane. He genuinely sounds like a stuck music track. He just spurts out buzzwords like intensity, drive, hunger, speed whilst banging his fist into his other hand. He makes no valid attempts at analysis and is so far past his sell by date you would feel bad putting him out on the discount shelf in ASDA.

Once again Canavan, McGuiness et al blew RTE totally out of orbit with their analysis. The alternative camera angles, long distance full pitch shots analysed by Canavan really give you a feeling of being at the game and seeing things you would normally miss on TV.

Agree 100%, as for Pat he is just there to collect a check, the clichés are just way way too old at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Any truth to the dancehall story?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 16, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
Just a note on last nights show. It said Cooper won 5 AI medals for Kerry. By my counting, it's only 4 as he missed 2014 with injury. Just saying.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
I tbink in terms of match analysis sky is way ahead. Rte second then third I'd put BBC. 4th would go to Arlene Foster and trailing well behind in 5th would be Syphilis
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 16, 2018, 06:36:59 PM
BBC is miles ahead of RTE as well in terms of analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 16, 2018, 06:52:19 PM
BBC is very good from my point of view. Big Sidebottom was controversial, however, there was always the edge of the seat excitement waiting for his next left field remark. Kind of like that uncle at a wedding who'll say something that'll offend half the family and start a ruckus. Good craic all the same.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 16, 2018, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
I tbink in terms of match analysis sky is way ahead. Rte second then third I'd put BBC. 4th would go to Arlene Foster and trailing well behind in 5th would be Syphilis

Sky do the best actual anaysis but something about the way they cover the games I find incredibly dull. I don't know if it's the presenters, pundits or the format itself but it's missing something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 16, 2018, 08:15:01 PM
If the same game is on all 3 channels I'll 100% choose Sky every time followed by BBC. RTE are awful in every regard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 16, 2018, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on July 16, 2018, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: Itchy on July 16, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
I tbink in terms of match analysis sky is way ahead. Rte second then third I'd put BBC. 4th would go to Arlene Foster and trailing well behind in 5th would be Syphilis

Sky do the best actual anaysis but something about the way they cover the games I find incredibly dull. I don't know if it's the presenters, pundits or the format itself but it's missing something.

Meehan still has that sparkle in his eyes, soon to be extinguished by having to actually watch reams of footage from the blanketball championship..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2018, 09:08:13 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 16, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
Just a note on last nights show. It said Cooper won 5 AI medals for Kerry. By my counting, it's only 4 as he missed 2014 with injury. Just saying.

He was on the PANEL! And claims a medal! Think he togged out with the 28 Jersey that day!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 16, 2018, 10:53:14 PM
SKy Sky Sky
You'd think Sky invented all this.
Sky's analysis, the show format, pundits and commentary team is a rip off from TV3.

As mentioned by GBB the analysis is excellent, Peter C is incisive and informative   but the rest of the coverage is corny in a contrived fashion.





Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 16, 2018, 11:02:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 16, 2018, 10:53:14 PM
SKy Sky Sky
You'd think Sky invented all this.
Sky's analysis, the show format, pundits and commentary team is a rip off from TV3.

As mentioned by GBB the analysis is excellent, Peter C is incisive and informative   but the rest of the coverage is corny in a contrived fashion.

Ah come on now, you expect us to believe tv3 ever did anything innovative.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on July 16, 2018, 11:05:54 PM
Skys coverage is easily the best.Had to laugh when Spillane was asked at HT of the Mayo v Kerry replay last year what Kerry should do to get back in the game and his only reply was that they should throw off the shackles and go for it I guess Pat likes to keep it simple
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on July 16, 2018, 11:06:38 PM
Quote from: maigheo on July 16, 2018, 11:05:54 PM
Skys coverage is easily the best.Had to laugh when Spillane was asked at HT of the Mayo v Kerry replay last year what Kerry should do to get back in the game and his only reply was that they should throw off the shackles and go for it I guess Pat likes to keep it simple

Throw off the shackles is a favourite of Brendan Cummins
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on July 17, 2018, 02:48:57 PM
With RTE you get opinion not analysis, on sky you get both.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
What games are on RTE and Sky this weekend?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
What games are on RTE and Sky this weekend?
Sky - Saturday games - Roscommon & Donegal, Tyrone & Dublin
RTÉ - Sunday games - Kildare & Galway, Monaghan & Kerry

Thanks hs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 18, 2018, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
What games are on RTE and Sky this weekend?
Sky - Saturday games - Roscommon & Donegal, Tyrone & Dublin
RTÉ - Sunday games - Kildare & Galway, Monaghan & Kerry

Thanks hs.

I signed up to Sky sports for a month to view these games. I tried to record the Tyrone and Ros match but it wouldn't let me. RTE games recorded no bother. Do Sky not let you record Sky Sports? Or was this more of a localised issue?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 18, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 18, 2018, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
What games are on RTE and Sky this weekend?
Sky - Saturday games - Roscommon & Donegal, Tyrone & Dublin
RTÉ - Sunday games - Kildare & Galway, Monaghan & Kerry

Thanks hs.

I signed up to Sky sports for a month to view these games. I tried to record the Tyrone and Ros match but it wouldn't let me. RTE games recorded no bother. Do Sky not let you record Sky Sports? Or was this more of a localised issue?

I Sky+ all the games without a problem so they definitely let you record them
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 18, 2018, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 18, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 18, 2018, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2018, 10:49:30 AM
What games are on RTE and Sky this weekend?
Sky - Saturday games - Roscommon & Donegal, Tyrone & Dublin
RTÉ - Sunday games - Kildare & Galway, Monaghan & Kerry

Thanks hs.

I signed up to Sky sports for a month to view these games. I tried to record the Tyrone and Ros match but it wouldn't let me. RTE games recorded no bother. Do Sky not let you record Sky Sports? Or was this more of a localised issue?

I Sky+ all the games without a problem so they definitely let you record them

Cheers
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 20, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
RTE GAA pundits warned personal attacks on players and managers will 'not be tolerated'

In a wide-ranging interview with Gaelic Life, new Head of Sport at RTE Declan McBennett said that the message has been conveyed to all its analysts.

"I Think there is an onus on RTE to be critical but to be conscious of what is being played out in front of you," said McBennett.

"The message that has gone out to all analysts is that there are no personal attacks allowed.

"They can be critical of formats, structures, tactics and systems but they can not be critical in a personalised way of individuals. I have no time for, nor will I tolerate, personal attacks on individuals."


McBennett also emphasised the importance of bringing in younger pundits to reflect their audience.

"If you look at the last couple of weeks, we've had Michael Quinlivan, Cora Staunton, Shane McGrath, Derek McGrath, Michael Meehan in analysing.

"I think the game now is fundamentally different to the game that some of the analysts played."


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rte-gaa-pundits-warned-personal-attacks-on-players-and-managers-will-not-be-tolerated-37139059.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rte-gaa-pundits-warned-personal-attacks-on-players-and-managers-will-not-be-tolerated-37139059.html)

Not before time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 20, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 20, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
RTE GAA pundits warned personal attacks on players and managers will 'not be tolerated'

In a wide-ranging interview with Gaelic Life, new Head of Sport at RTE Declan McBennett said that the message has been conveyed to all its analysts.

"I Think there is an onus on RTE to be critical but to be conscious of what is being played out in front of you," said McBennett.

"The message that has gone out to all analysts is that there are no personal attacks allowed.

"They can be critical of formats, structures, tactics and systems but they can not be critical in a personalised way of individuals. I have no time for, nor will I tolerate, personal attacks on individuals."


McBennett also emphasised the importance of bringing in younger pundits to reflect their audience.

"If you look at the last couple of weeks, we've had Michael Quinlivan, Cora Staunton, Shane McGrath, Derek McGrath, Michael Meehan in analysing.

"I think the game now is fundamentally different to the game that some of the analysts played."


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rte-gaa-pundits-warned-personal-attacks-on-players-and-managers-will-not-be-tolerated-37139059.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rte-gaa-pundits-warned-personal-attacks-on-players-and-managers-will-not-be-tolerated-37139059.html)

Not before time.

+1 goes to show the old new Head of Sport at RTE didn't give a shite to what was going on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 21, 2018, 11:38:19 AM
This is great to see. Very encouraging. They have been getting their a**** handed to them by sky's gaa coverage for a few years now. Change is needed. I'd say there's a few old hands squirming looking over their shoulder right now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on July 21, 2018, 11:45:05 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 20, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 20, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
RTE GAA pundits warned personal attacks on players and managers will 'not be tolerated'

In a wide-ranging interview with Gaelic Life, new Head of Sport at RTE Declan McBennett said that the message has been conveyed to all its analysts.

"I Think there is an onus on RTE to be critical but to be conscious of what is being played out in front of you," said McBennett.

"The message that has gone out to all analysts is that there are no personal attacks allowed.

"They can be critical of formats, structures, tactics and systems but they can not be critical in a personalised way of individuals. I have no time for, nor will I tolerate, personal attacks on individuals."


McBennett also emphasised the importance of bringing in younger pundits to reflect their audience.

"If you look at the last couple of weeks, we've had Michael Quinlivan, Cora Staunton, Shane McGrath, Derek McGrath, Michael Meehan in analysing.

"I think the game now is fundamentally different to the game that some of the analysts played."


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rte-gaa-pundits-warned-personal-attacks-on-players-and-managers-will-not-be-tolerated-37139059.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/rte-gaa-pundits-warned-personal-attacks-on-players-and-managers-will-not-be-tolerated-37139059.html)

Not before time.

+1 goes to show the old new Head of Sport at RTE didn't give a shite to what was going on.
Yes squeaky bum time for Spillane brolly and o rourke. If at least one doesn't get the shove I'll eat my hat in a manly way. I just hope it doesn't make me puke. So long muthafuckas!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 21, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
Pat spillane is defunct now and he's probably not alone so someone needs to come in and do a good shake up. Also brolly thinks he is untouchable and needs to learn manners. Hopefully this fella will do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2018, 12:37:18 PM
Spillane has ridden this gravy train for years. So has O'Rourke! Brolly at least has tried to move outside the box.

RTE has being doing the same with Soccer (bringing in youth). You can see how insightful Damien Duff is in regards Champions League, International Soccer and the Premiership. He knows the modern psychology and Business of the game. In fairness, Brady has been working at the post of Head of Youth Development at Arsenal so he has some insight into the modern game. Giles was shown the road for obvious reasons and Dunphy's time must be near an end?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 21, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Colm is dragged down by Spillane and Brolly and away from their nonsense he would flourish.
The panel should be Colm, Cian Ward and Anthony Moyles.
For every game.
Including hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omagh_gael on July 21, 2018, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 21, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Colm is dragged down by Spillane and Brolly and away from their nonsense he would flourish.
The panel should be Colm, Cian Ward and Anthony Moyles.
For every game.
Including hurling.

Big Joe Sheridan for the six nations?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 21, 2018, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 21, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Colm is dragged down by Spillane and Brolly and away from their nonsense he would flourish.
The panel should be Colm, Cian Ward and Anthony Moyles.
For every game.
Including hurling.
Ger Loughnane will be onto you, Jinxy. Watch out
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 21, 2018, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 21, 2018, 01:05:53 PM
Colm is dragged down by Spillane and Brolly and away from their nonsense he would flourish.
The panel should be Colm, Cian Ward and Anthony Moyles.
For every game.
Including hurling.

While yer all Meath c***ts Anthony Moyles is top quality
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 22, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
Amateur hour at the minute  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 22, 2018, 09:55:43 PM
Analysis captioned "Monaghan dawdling". Ffs it's embarrassing.,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on July 22, 2018, 10:14:04 PM
Them Monaghan men are wild for the aul "lookit " especially the manager!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 22, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Twice Brolly has made reference to how hurling is superior.

And there's that word "dawdle" again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rois on July 22, 2018, 10:18:56 PM
I haven't watched it all year. Don't feel I'm missin out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 10:23:08 PM
The only thing worse than a referee who doesn't enforce the rules, is one who does.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 22, 2018, 10:43:57 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 10:23:08 PM
The only thing worse than a referee who doesn't enforce the rules, is one who does.

Best thing ever said on here. Basically,  referees are complete ballixes, either way. ... .win/win situation, that's called.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on July 22, 2018, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 22, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Twice Brolly has made reference to how hurling is superior.

And there's that word "dawdle" again.
We have great games on slightly smaller pitches and less of the puke ball last 10 minutes. You want to improve Gaelic football and reduce ones sided games in croker. Reduce the width of the pitch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 22, 2018, 11:08:30 PM
The Paidi O Se cup. Will ya cop on. Roscommon should be in it according to Brolly. By his thinking the All Ireland should be 6 team competition.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on July 22, 2018, 11:08:54 PM
Some one tell Brolly shut the fu-k up. If Rte have Brolly on the Sunday game again  then they are bigger fools than I thought
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 22, 2018, 11:13:22 PM
Coming soon.... the super 7s. If brolly has his way the championship will be a one off game between Dublin and whichever county is closest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 11:13:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 22, 2018, 11:08:30 PM
The Paidi O Se cup. Will ya cop on. Roscommon should be in it according to Brolly. By his thinking the All Ireland should be 6 team competition.

Paidi O'Se Cup? Roscommon a team playing Division One football next spring and 2017 Connacht Champions, Being handed the ambition of winning a 'B' Competition? That'd really get the lads out training on a Monday evening in February!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 11:14:54 PM
Well they took it fairly handy on McStay
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Orchard park on July 22, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 22, 2018, 11:08:30 PM
The Paidi O Se cup. Will ya cop on. Roscommon should be in it according to Brolly. By his thinking the All Ireland should be 6 team competition.


It is
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 11:14:54 PM
Well they took it fairly handy on McStay

He's a mate of the panel and he lost the plot today! He'll get a slap on the wrist from the authorities. He looks like a broken man and will probably walk away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 12:47:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 11:14:54 PM
Well they took it fairly handy on McStay

He's a mate of the panel and he lost the plot today! He'll get a slap on the wrist from the authorities. He looks like a broken man and will probably walk away.

Err, he's talking about his plans for the winter break publicly. Despite the protestations of a few posters who never liked him to begin with there's no desire in the county to push him out the door. Malachy O'Rourke looked fairly broken after being humiliated by Longford or hammered by Dublin in an AIQF too..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 23, 2018, 12:49:34 AM
He needs to improve S&C and defensive structures, they have some nice footballers. Do they have much coming through in reinforcements next year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 23, 2018, 12:50:55 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 12:47:47 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 11:20:45 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on July 22, 2018, 11:14:54 PM
Well they took it fairly handy on McStay

He's a mate of the panel and he lost the plot today! He'll get a slap on the wrist from the authorities. He looks like a broken man and will probably walk away.

Err, he's talking about his plans for the winter break publicly. Despite the protestations of a few posters who never liked him to begin with there's no desire in the county to push him out the door. Malachy O'Rourke looked fairly broken after being humiliated by Longford or hammered by Dublin in an AIQF too..

Aye but I don't remember Malachy bouncing a football of a linesman's head over a few dodgy decisions. He's lost the plot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 23, 2018, 01:09:57 AM
RTE seem to heed the social media stats when it comes to panelists. Rightly so I spose.

Tohill was the best by far. But didn't say anything that could annoy anyone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 01:28:05 AM
Parsons sounded like he was telling a patient they had terminal cancer the whole time but he had some good insight. Everyone I know from Charlestown says he's a decent lad so maybe there's a future for him in this when he retires.

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 23, 2018, 12:49:34 AM
He needs to improve S&C and defensive structures, they have some nice footballers. Do they have much coming through in reinforcements next year?

Harney, Mulhooly will be back in defense. A few of the surprisingly good U20s might make the cut but the U17 team that were AI runners up last year are a few years from senior.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 23, 2018, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 01:28:05 AM
Parsons sounded like he was telling a patient they had terminal cancer the whole time but he had some good insight. Everyone I know from Charlestown says he's a decent lad so maybe there's a future for him in this when he retires.

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 23, 2018, 12:49:34 AM
He needs to improve S&C and defensive structures, they have some nice footballers. Do they have much coming through in reinforcements next year?

Harney, Mulhooly will be back in defense. A few of the surprisingly good U20s might make the cut but the U17 team that were AI runners up last year are a few years from senior.
He's no defender and Roscommon have enough non defenders in their defence already.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 02:29:53 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 23, 2018, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 01:28:05 AM
Parsons sounded like he was telling a patient they had terminal cancer the whole time but he had some good insight. Everyone I know from Charlestown says he's a decent lad so maybe there's a future for him in this when he retires.

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 23, 2018, 12:49:34 AM
He needs to improve S&C and defensive structures, they have some nice footballers. Do they have much coming through in reinforcements next year?

Harney, Mulhooly will be back in defense. A few of the surprisingly good U20s might make the cut but the U17 team that were AI runners up last year are a few years from senior.
He's no defender and Roscommon have enough non defenders in their defence already.

Your information needs updating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 23, 2018, 02:44:02 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 02:29:53 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 23, 2018, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: Syferus on July 23, 2018, 01:28:05 AM
Parsons sounded like he was telling a patient they had terminal cancer the whole time but he had some good insight. Everyone I know from Charlestown says he's a decent lad so maybe there's a future for him in this when he retires.

Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 23, 2018, 12:49:34 AM
He needs to improve S&C and defensive structures, they have some nice footballers. Do they have much coming through in reinforcements next year?

Harney, Mulhooly will be back in defense. A few of the surprisingly good U20s might make the cut but the U17 team that were AI runners up last year are a few years from senior.
He's no defender and Roscommon have enough non defenders in their defence already.

Your information needs updating.
What part of Harney is no defender needs updating maybe McStay needs to update that information not me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on July 23, 2018, 09:33:53 AM
I know it's wrong and he should get a long suspension for it but I genuinely laughed out loud when McStay nailed the linesman in the head with the ball.
Beautiful throw.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: skeog on July 23, 2018, 10:15:31 AM
It would make for a good question on what happens next on a Question of Sport lol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2018, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 23, 2018, 09:33:53 AM
I know it's wrong and he should get a long suspension for it but I genuinely laughed out loud when McStay nailed the linesman in the head with the ball.
Beautiful throw.  ;D
And he went for a second go
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on July 24, 2018, 09:59:31 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on July 23, 2018, 09:33:53 AM
I know it's wrong and he should get a long suspension for it but I genuinely laughed out loud when McStay nailed the linesman in the head with the ball.
Beautiful throw.  ;D

Underarm too..

Had a laugh at that one myself...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on August 14, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
Watching the live coverage back here and Joe Brolly is a f**king weirdo. Did anyone notice him stroking Tomás O'Se's leg early in the coverage with a dirty grin on his face. Tomas looked liked he wanted to chin him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on August 14, 2018, 10:07:48 PM
If Tyrone win the final (which they won't) The Sunday Game will be some craic that evening with no interviews from the Tyrone camp and I'm sure they'll hardly be welcome at the post match banquet, more air time for Brolly and co!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on August 14, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
Watching the live coverage back here and Joe Brolly is a f**king weirdo. Did anyone notice him stroking Tomás O'Se's leg early in the coverage with a dirty grin on his face. Tomas looked liked he wanted to chin him.

Tomas and yourself mustn't be too secure in your sexuality so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on August 14, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
Watching the live coverage back here and Joe Brolly is a f**king weirdo. Did anyone notice him stroking Tomás O'Se's leg early in the coverage with a dirty grin on his face. Tomas looked liked he wanted to chin him.

Tomas and yourself mustn't be too secure in your sexuality so.

If he stroked Rachel Wyse like that would it be OK also??
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on August 15, 2018, 12:00:10 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 14, 2018, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2018, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 14, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
Watching the live coverage back here and Joe Brolly is a f**king weirdo. Did anyone notice him stroking Tomás O'Se's leg early in the coverage with a dirty grin on his face. Tomas looked liked he wanted to chin him.

Tomas and yourself mustn't be too secure in your sexuality so.

If he stroked Rachel Wyse like that would it be OK also??

She'd definitely chin him after the smart comments he made about her when Sky first got the gig.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
These end of season awards are awful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
They race through the team of the year like there's a bomb about to go off in the studio and then devote ample time to these nonsense awards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 02, 2018, 11:27:24 PM
Eoin McLove the RTE Man of the match.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2018, 11:32:55 PM
Cavanagh's keeping a good head of dark hair
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 11:41:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2018, 11:32:55 PM
Cavanagh's keeping a good head of dark hair

I'd say Des has given him a few tips.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Capt Pat on September 02, 2018, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 02, 2018, 11:27:24 PM
Eoin McLove the RTE Man of the match.

I would have given it to Kilkenny myself. I don't think McCaffrey deserved it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 02, 2018, 11:52:03 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.

Reminded me of this man.

(https://adamnostalgia.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/vlcsnap-00641.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on September 02, 2018, 11:52:25 PM
I thought mannion but wouldnt read too much into. What the hell happened then with the stage nearly collapsing ?  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: regal on September 03, 2018, 12:05:26 AM
Sean cavanagh is some a**e hole.

I'm sure he headed over to the Tyrone hotel to receive a warm welcome. Not.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 03, 2018, 12:11:35 AM
That asshole won you 3 all- irelands! What he do now to upset u
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on September 03, 2018, 12:23:31 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 03, 2018, 12:11:35 AM
That asshole won you 3 all- irelands! What he do now to upset u
He had a big grumpy head on him the whole way through
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on September 03, 2018, 12:33:00 AM
Much as I dislike him and think he should get sent off every match he plays, I thought Jonny Cooper was excellent today and deserved it ahead of any of the the lads nominated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 03, 2018, 12:39:44 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
They race through the team of the year like there's a bomb about to go off in the studio and then devote ample time to these nonsense awards.
And then their stupid obsession with having these big superimposed images in the studio (clearly copied from Match of the Day), which adds absolutely nothing to what's being said in the studio, sees them lining out the team in that manner, which means you can't actually see the team in full. Gobshites.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Over the Bar on September 03, 2018, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.



An amateur sportsman who has to go and do a days work tomorrow not being as polished in front of camera as Gary Linekear is hardly surprising.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Syferus on September 03, 2018, 12:49:37 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 03, 2018, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.



An amateur sportsman who has to go and do a days work tomorrow not being as polished in front of camera as Gary Linekear is hardly surprising.

There's not too much amateur about Michael Murphy..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Over the Bar on September 03, 2018, 01:01:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on September 03, 2018, 12:49:37 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 03, 2018, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.



An amateur sportsman who has to go and do a days work tomorrow not being as polished in front of camera as Gary Linekear is hardly surprising.

There's not too much amateur about Michael Murphy..

Why isn't he amateur then?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on September 03, 2018, 07:26:33 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.

Ridiculous comment. Murphy was very articulate and insightful. Very generous in his attitude towards other top teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 03, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
I thought Murphy was good.

Still miss Shane 'Triangles' Curran though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 03, 2018, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: gallsman on September 03, 2018, 12:33:00 AM
Much as I dislike him and think he should get sent off every match he plays, I thought Jonny Cooper was excellent today and deserved it ahead of any of the the lads nominated.

I would agree with you there
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 03, 2018, 11:58:19 AM
What a waste of time that was with save, point and goal of the year. At least talk about something worthwhile, what a load of nonsense.

Is their anyone more biased than a Kerryman?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Who won left-footed player of the year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AQMP on September 03, 2018, 12:16:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Who won left-footed player of the year?

Peter Harte just lost out to the Kerry minor no 10 for ginger player of the year
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 03, 2018, 12:17:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Who won left-footed player of the year?

I was disappointed that the 'Very Special Award for Longford for beating Meath' Award was omitted.

Or, more seriously, Paddy Collum's save in the last few minutes in that game was better than the saves shown last night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on September 03, 2018, 12:17:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Who won left-footed player of the year?

I was disappointed that the 'Very Special Award for Longford for beating Meath' Award was omitted.

Or, more seriously, Paddy Collum's save in the last few minutes in that game was better than the saves shown last night.

Console yourself with the thought that you weren't even considered for the 'underdog of the year' award.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on September 03, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on September 03, 2018, 12:17:15 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Who won left-footed player of the year?

I was disappointed that the 'Very Special Award for Longford for beating Meath' Award was omitted.

Or, more seriously, Paddy Collum's save in the last few minutes in that game was better than the saves shown last night.

Console yourself with the thought that you weren't even considered for the 'underdog of the year' award.

Ha. That did cross my mind!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 03, 2018, 12:49:28 PM
Do people still watch that programme :o :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on September 03, 2018, 01:38:08 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 11:58:55 AM
Who won left-footed player of the year?

Larry Reilly for 20th year in a row
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hardy on September 03, 2018, 02:37:07 PM
Larry has also been right-footed player of the year in those years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 02:38:37 PM
He's also won 'best two-footed player' of the year during that time.
Three awards for two feet.
Some man.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on September 03, 2018, 03:32:13 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 02:38:37 PM
He's also won 'best two-footed player' of the year during that time.
Three awards for two feet.
Some man.

And he won that one with his hands.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on September 03, 2018, 04:06:10 PM
O rourke showing what a snidey low life **** he is again yesterday with his cheap digs playing to the crowd. He's the sneakiest of all the three gobshites.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 03, 2018, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: lenny on September 03, 2018, 07:26:33 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.

Ridiculous comment. Murphy was very articulate and insightful. Very generous in his attitude towards other top teams.

To be far little he said was that insightful and it was almost like he was afraid to upset anyone.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 03, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 03, 2018, 12:48:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.



An amateur sportsman who has to go and do a days work tomorrow not being as polished in front of camera as Gary Linekear is hardly surprising.

Deliberate or accidental?  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 03, 2018, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: lenny on September 03, 2018, 07:26:33 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.

Ridiculous comment. Murphy was very articulate and insightful. Very generous in his attitude towards other top teams.

Murphy seems a good lad, and is very articulate. But he does start to sound like Jimmy Cricket when he drops the odd 'c'mere' in his replies.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 03, 2018, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 03, 2018, 02:38:37 PM
He's also won 'best two-footed player' of the year during that time.
Three awards for two feet.
Some man.

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on September 03, 2018, 05:50:46 PM
Quote from: lenny on September 03, 2018, 07:26:33 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 11:34:58 PM
Michael Murphy (great footballer but) is so hard to listen to.

Ridiculous comment. Murphy was very articulate and insightful. Very generous in his attitude towards other top teams.

Apart from him saying Ah come here hi'. He was grand.  Tomas O Se can be annoying saying look all the time
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 07, 2019, 06:26:05 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/added-time-behind-the-scenes-with-the-sunday-game-1.3881950
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 12, 2019, 06:35:16 PM
2 ladies in this clip from 2012 involved in analysing the hurling this afternoon

https://youtu.be/gftT61Bof7A


https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0425/1045679-women-on-the-couch-the-growth-in-female-sport-pundits/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gold on May 12, 2019, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2019, 11:27:15 PM
That Louth & Wexford game seemed to be a cracker. Somebody should have told the commentator that. Was it computer generated?

Lol. The Robot
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2019, 12:38:35 AM
Quote from: hardstation on May 12, 2019, 11:27:15 PM
That Louth & Wexford game seemed to be a cracker. Somebody should have told the commentator that. Was it computer generated?

The opposite of MÓM anyway 😁. Disappointing no actual analysis of the Ros Leitrim game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 13, 2019, 01:40:01 AM
Ah sure it's only the Connacht bogmen.....
We don't matter in Dublin 4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on May 13, 2019, 02:09:49 AM
50 scores in Laois Offaly game and it wasn't even mentioned
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 13, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
Quote from: Gmac on May 13, 2019, 02:09:49 AM
50 scores in Laois Offaly game and it wasn't even mentioned
Yeah, but Cork v Tipp. That has to be shown twice in the one day
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tyrdub on May 13, 2019, 08:40:55 AM
Where was Joanne?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 13, 2019, 12:18:47 PM
Probably in the Oval in Cork or some other pub down dere
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 12:20:37 PM
Was there any Joe McDonagh cup shown at all?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on May 13, 2019, 12:51:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 12:20:37 PM
Was there any Joe McDonagh cup shown at all?

The BBC sport website have 2 minutes highlights of the Antrim-Kerry match which is 2 minutes more coverage than the Sunday game showed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 13, 2019, 12:59:33 PM
Tomas O Se analysis in Limerick Tipperary was pathetic. Just showed scores and described what was happening. Jesus wept.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2019, 01:09:03 PM
As well as that, the way they introduced the 40 years of it, the current RTÉ version looks absolutely crap. I know all the sports logos are the same, but it looks very dumbed down in comparison to the 90s.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
The Irish times has zero coverage of the Joe McDonagh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on May 13, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
The Irish times has zero coverage of the Joe McDonagh.

Independent is the only paper that seems to delve into the lower tiers of hurling at all.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 13, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
The Irish times has zero coverage of the Joe McDonagh.

Independent is the only paper that seems to delve into the lower tiers of hurling at all.
I don't think the IT has the money , actually
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 13, 2019, 07:59:21 PM
No body cares about the McDonagh Cup, The Nicky Rachard, The Lori Meagher, The Christy Ring. Nobody care about the tiered Womens championships (Senior, Junior and Intermediate).

Only a handful of people attend the semi finals of these competitions. Mostly family, friends and clubmates. Tiering competitions does not make them any more popular. The Ladies Market the finals well and horse out free tickets for a triple header day out.

Using the Ladies game as a good example, is a false flag. The Ladies game has very poor attendances and coverage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Boy Wonder on May 13, 2019, 08:28:19 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 13, 2019, 07:59:21 PM
No body cares about the McDonagh Cup, The Nicky Rachard, The Lori Meagher, The Christy Ring. Nobody care about the tiered Womens championships (Senior, Junior and Intermediate).


Between 4,000 and 5,000 were in attendance at the Joe McDonagh Cup match between Offaly and Laois in Tullamore on Saturday evening - more than attended some of the SFC matches over the weekend.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 13, 2019, 07:59:21 PM
No body cares about the McDonagh Cup, The Nicky Rachard, The Lori Meagher, The Christy Ring. Nobody care about the tiered Womens championships (Senior, Junior and Intermediate).

Only a handful of people attend the semi finals of these competitions. Mostly family, friends and clubmates. Tiering competitions does not make them any more popular. The Ladies Market the finals well and horse out free tickets for a triple header day out.

Using the Ladies game as a good example, is a false flag. The Ladies game has very poor attendances and coverage!

The Joe McDonagh is a super competition - TG4 should be allowed to cover it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .

Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring - teams who are at their own level.  Hurling people bought into the tiered system because they understand their is an opportunity to progress. 

Football counties don't get it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 09:07:18 PM
Until the joe McDonagh though the top end of the Christy ring was very unbalanced. It's only worked for the Antrim's, westmeaths, laois's when the joe McDonagh was brought in.

Sf my point is on lip service, barely, from tv stations to lower tiers. Nothing to say this wouldn't happen to football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 13, 2019, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 13, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
The Irish times has zero coverage of the Joe McDonagh.

Independent is the only paper that seems to delve into the lower tiers of hurling at all.
I don't think the IT has the money , actually

They have plenty of money. Some of the highest paid journalists in Ireland works with Irish times and guest columnists are well paid for their views also.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 13, 2019, 09:33:12 PM
Ah sure how would they have time or money for Gah Bogball and Stickball when they're so busy with Ireland's National Sport?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 13, 2019, 10:18:24 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 13, 2019, 07:59:21 PM
No body cares about the McDonagh Cup, The Nicky Rachard, The Lori Meagher, The Christy Ring. Nobody care about the tiered Womens championships (Senior, Junior and Intermediate).

Only a handful of people attend the semi finals of these competitions. Mostly family, friends and clubmates. Tiering competitions does not make them any more popular. The Ladies Market the finals well and horse out free tickets for a triple header day out.

Using the Ladies game as a good example, is a false flag. The Ladies game has very poor attendances and coverage!

The Joe McDonagh is a super competition - TG4 should be allowed to cover it.
GAA doesn't sell papers, rugby and soccer does I'm afraid.

Of course TG4 don't have the rights
Well done GAA

We need to get some proper forward minded people into HQ soon or there will be nothing left of the GAA as we know it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 14, 2019, 03:28:07 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 13, 2019, 12:59:33 PM
Tomas O Se analysis in Limerick Tipperary was pathetic. Just showed scores and described what was happening. Jesus wept.

He has to be the ultimate bullshit artist of all time and that is saying something.

Did anybody happen by chance to read his "predictions" on RTÉ website this weekend.
If you walked into your local and asked some buck in the corner after a few pints for his opinion, it most likely would have been more Inciteful.

And then to put the icing on the cake , he actually "writes" an article .
Fu*k me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on May 14, 2019, 05:30:22 AM
Quote from: joemamas on May 14, 2019, 03:28:07 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 13, 2019, 12:59:33 PM
Tomas O Se analysis in Limerick Tipperary was pathetic. Just showed scores and described what was happening. Jesus wept.

He has to be the ultimate bullshit artist of all time and that is saying something.

Did anybody happen by chance to read his "predictions" on RTÉ website this weekend.
If you walked into your local and asked some buck in the corner after a few pints for his opinion, it most likely would have been more Inciteful.

And then to put the icing on the cake , he actually "writes" an article .
Fu*k me.


It's actually someone from RTE putting together a piece based on what Tomas said on the Morning Ireland sports news - they directly quote what he said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .

Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring - teams who are at their own level.  Hurling people bought into the tiered system because they understand their is an opportunity to progress. 

Football counties don't get it.

The thing is, there's no chance for the majority of the people to look at apart from the Liam McCarthy.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2019, 07:29:47 AM
That is in no way different to the football though. In fact at the minute there are probably more teams who could win Liam than Sam.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .

Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring - teams who are at their own level.  Hurling people bought into the tiered system because they understand their is an opportunity to progress. 

Football counties don't get it.

The thing is, there's no chance for the majority of the people to look at apart from the Liam McCarthy.

If there was a senior intercounty football match and a top level  hurling match on afterwards and everyone on the Board went to it not many of the football fans would stay on for the hurling. I have seen the phenomenon a few times in real life. People from Cavan or Meath wouldn't typically be interested in hurling.

Football is mass market.   Hurling is not.

If Football is divided into tiers and well promoted people will watch it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 14, 2019, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .

Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring - teams who are at their own level.  Hurling people bought into the tiered system because they understand their is an opportunity to progress. 

Football counties don't get it.

The thing is, there's no chance for the majority of the people to look at apart from the Liam McCarthy.

If there was a senior intercounty football match and a top level  hurling match on afterwards and everyone on the Board went to it not many of the football fans would stay on for the hurling. I have seen the phenomenon a few times in real life. People from Cavan or Meath wouldn't typically be interested in hurling.

Football is mass market.   Hurling is not.

If Football is divided into tiers and well promoted people will watch it.

To market it is the key - ala how not to market the super competition that is the Joe Mc Donagh.

Football needs tiers - simple as.  It would work well if marketed properly i.e. tv coverage.  Hand it over to TG4.

All competitions in each county are senior, intermediate and junior.  Inter-county football should be the same.

Either that or say from 2021 - wherever you finish in league, you go into senior, intermediate or junior championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 09:06:46 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 14, 2019, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .

Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring - teams who are at their own level.  Hurling people bought into the tiered system because they understand their is an opportunity to progress. 

Football counties don't get it.

The thing is, there's no chance for the majority of the people to look at apart from the Liam McCarthy.

If there was a senior intercounty football match and a top level  hurling match on afterwards and everyone on the Board went to it not many of the football fans would stay on for the hurling. I have seen the phenomenon a few times in real life. People from Cavan or Meath wouldn't typically be interested in hurling.

Football is mass market.   Hurling is not.

If Football is divided into tiers and well promoted people will watch it.

To market it is the key - ala how not to market the super competition that is the Joe Mc Donagh.

Football needs tiers - simple as.  It would work well if marketed properly i.e. tv coverage.  Hand it over to TG4.

All competitions in each county are senior, intermediate and junior.  Inter-county football should be the same.

Either that or say from 2021 - wherever you finish in league, you go into senior, intermediate or junior championship.

Fellas will watch any kind of sport
If hungarian soccer was on while the missus was out shopping a lot of punters would watch it
Selling tiered football should be a doddle

It would also mean some teams could make progress instead of losing all the time
Laois and Carlow are good examples of that in the hurling
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 14, 2019, 09:23:55 AM
why not one programme with all football? eg at 8pm
another programme with all hurling? at 9:30

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LeoMc on May 14, 2019, 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 14, 2019, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 13, 2019, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 13, 2019, 04:59:27 PM
The Joe McDonagh is a great tournament. It's as tight as division 1 of the hurling league where you could go from winning to relegation prospect very quickly.  The GAA have never really cared with the hurling though and how they treat hurling is a solid argument with why football maybe shouldn't be tiered as no one would ever see about half the counties in Ireland playing on tv at all.

It's a real pity because it is really good

But I don't think you can use hurling to argue about football and tiering
Hurling is very much a minority sport in about 2/3 of counties .

Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring - teams who are at their own level.  Hurling people bought into the tiered system because they understand their is an opportunity to progress. 

Football counties don't get it.

The thing is, there's no chance for the majority of the people to look at apart from the Liam McCarthy.

If there was a senior intercounty football match and a top level  hurling match on afterwards and everyone on the Board went to it not many of the football fans would stay on for the hurling. I have seen the phenomenon a few times in real life. People from Cavan or Meath wouldn't typically be interested in hurling.

Football is mass market.   Hurling is not.

If Football is divided into tiers and well promoted people will watch it.

To market it is the key - ala how not to market the super competition that is the Joe Mc Donagh.

Football needs tiers - simple as.  It would work well if marketed properly i.e. tv coverage.  Hand it over to TG4.

All competitions in each county are senior, intermediate and junior.  Inter-county football should be the same.

Either that or say from 2021 - wherever you finish in league, you go into senior, intermediate or junior championship.

If the All Ireland Intermediate was handed over to TG4 it would get better coverage than RTE gives the Senior championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on May 14, 2019, 01:55:55 PM
Players won't even want to play in it let alone people go to watch it, that is the problem with tiering. Joe Brolly wittering on about 3 tiers, I don't imagine that for 1 second Joe is contemplating Derry being in that 3rd tier which is where they would be if it was already introduced. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 14, 2019, 02:12:13 PM
The Tommy Murphy cup wasn't exactly a resounding success either and you would expect that is what a third tier would look like.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 14, 2019, 02:18:06 PM
Trial an open draw for 3 years.

What will bring on interest and participation in county teams is a good run for the underdog. That'll do more for football in a county than funding or coaching. What's the point for lower counties knowing the big guns are always in the way?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 14, 2019, 04:07:54 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 14, 2019, 01:55:55 PM
Players won't even want to play in it let alone people go to watch it, that is the problem with tiering. Joe Brolly wittering on about 3 tiers, I don't imagine that for 1 second Joe is contemplating Derry being in that 3rd tier which is where they would be if it was already introduced.

Why do players in club teams have 3 championships - senior, intermediate and junior?

Senior inter-county football should be the same - like the tiered hurling.  Everybody at their own level but can progress if successful.

This sense of entitlement at county teams is a joke - the smaller counties waiting for 1 time to get a good result against the big guns.  Look at Antrim for example, an Ulster Final under Bradley then the drop back. No progression there.

Tier the inter-county teams after a period of 2 years in league.  Then they know where they stand. 

Either that or combine the league into the championship.

Gaa sports are the wrong way around in comparsion to other sports - the 'cup' competition is the most important while the league is the 2nd most important.   Strange!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 07:54:25 AM
Someone needs to tell the pundits they are there to analyse the games not pontificate.
Division 1 v division 4.
Sligo did quite well

Is Sean Cav going to claim that Antrim, Derry and Cavan have always put up stern resistance in Ulster?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on May 20, 2019, 08:00:03 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 07:54:25 AM
Someone needs to tell the pundits they are there to analyse the games not pontificate.
Division 1 v division 4.
Sligo did quite well

Is Sean Cav going to claim that Antrim, Derry and Cavan have always put up stern resistance in Ulster?

Antrim fair enough but it's rare that anyone gets anything handy off those other 2.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on May 20, 2019, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 07:54:25 AM
Someone needs to tell the pundits they are there to analyse the games not pontificate.
Division 1 v division 4.
Sligo did quite well

Is Sean Cav going to claim that Antrim, Derry and Cavan have always put up stern resistance in Ulster?

That'd be a different Cavan to the runaway leaders of the Ulster Championship Roll of Honour then!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on May 20, 2019, 10:12:32 AM
I like McStay but watching him use a diagram to explain what a long kickout is was painful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on May 20, 2019, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: TheOptimist on May 20, 2019, 10:12:32 AM
I like McStay but watching him use a diagram to explain what a long kickout is was painful.
I don't like McStay & that was a woeful piece, talk about stating the obvious "if you kick it short you will win it more often but you've further to go to get a score, if you kick long you win it less often but if you do win it you've a better chance to score"
FFS, he's getting paid to present this drivel
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on May 20, 2019, 11:32:28 AM
Jesus lads can we get a petition up or something to stop them showing games we've seen from a few hours before. . . why do they have to analyse the the live games they've already shown in such detail when that's already been done??

There's so much going on at this time of year they should really be using their time better!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weareros on May 20, 2019, 01:33:46 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Would fancy winning an Ulster title this year with Tyrone's run (2 x Div 4, Div 2, Div 2 or relegated to Div 2), as opposed to Div 4 (promoted), Div 1, Div 1, ie #LeitrimRising #NationalLeague Champions #All-Ireland Semi-finalists. Can't believe Canvanagh said all that with a straight face; then again he has so much makeup plastered on his face, he has only one expression. Analyze the feckin game lads; enough of the pontificating.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 20, 2019, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 20, 2019, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 07:54:25 AM
Someone needs to tell the pundits they are there to analyse the games not pontificate.
Division 1 v division 4.
Sligo did quite well

Is Sean Cav going to claim that Antrim, Derry and Cavan have always put up stern resistance in Ulster?

That'd be a different Cavan to the runaway leaders of the Ulster Championship Roll of Honour then!!

Going by Saturday, it looks a very special Cavan outfit this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 20, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Check your facts then. Maybe it is your own county you are thinking of regarding not being competitive for decades?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on May 20, 2019, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring

Football counties don't get it.

No one looks at the Joe McDonagh or Christy Ring cups.

The main reason hurling is in such a healthy state is that you have 4 or 5 genuine (maybe even more) contenders for the All Ireland.

Football? Who can really see past the dubs?

Yesterday showed that poor football teams trying to play possession football can still entertain if the match is close.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 20, 2019, 07:02:42 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 20, 2019, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 13, 2019, 08:57:03 PM
Hurling is such a success because it's tirered!  Look at Liam McCarthy and Joe Mc Donagh.  Look at the Christy Ring

Football counties don't get it.

No one looks at the Joe McDonagh or Christy Ring cups.

The main reason hurling is in such a healthy state is that you have 4 or 5 genuine (maybe even more) contenders for the All Ireland.

Football? Who can really see past the dubs?

Yesterday showed that poor football teams trying to play possession football can still entertain if the match is close.

If marketing correctly, the Joe Mc Donagh would be a super competition for tv.  It's very competitive and to a good standard.

Would Jerome Quinn not cover it?

Hurling is at a good level as they play at their own level . 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2019, 08:15:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.

If RTE matched the coverage of BBC they wouldn't get half the criticism they get and give me Mr McHugh over Joe attention seeking Brolly any day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 20, 2019, 08:31:58 PM
Do people still watch the Sunday Game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2019, 09:02:49 PM
On fast forward. Tg4 Monday show possibly better!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 20, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Check your facts then. Maybe it is your own county you are thinking of regarding not being competitive for decades?
What facts?
Cavan haven't won an Ulster in 22 years and before that it was 28 years
So that's 50 years and one title
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 20, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Check your facts then. Maybe it is your own county you are thinking of regarding not being competitive for decades?
What facts?
Cavan haven't won an Ulster in 22 years and before that it was 28 years
So that's 50 years and one title

Interestingly, in that time Down have only won 5, Monaghan 5 and Derry 6.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 20, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 20, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Check your facts then. Maybe it is your own county you are thinking of regarding not being competitive for decades?
What facts?
Cavan haven't won an Ulster in 22 years and before that it was 28 years
So that's 50 years and one title

Interestingly, in that time Down have only won 5, Monaghan 5 and Derry 6.
And the wait for an Ulster for two of those is stretching on much longer than either might have ever imagined.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 20, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 20, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Check your facts then. Maybe it is your own county you are thinking of regarding not being competitive for decades?
What facts?
Cavan haven't won an Ulster in 22 years and before that it was 28 years
So that's 50 years and one title

Interestingly, in that time Down have only won 5, Monaghan 5 and Derry 6.
And the wait for an Ulster for two of those is stretching on much longer than either might have ever imagined.

Yeah, our wait of 17 years seemed like a lifetime when we finally won in 1999. Now it doesn't seem so bad compared to Derry and Down's wait.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Antrim Coaster on May 21, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.
Thomas Niblock's commentary was refreshing and a damn sight better than Ger 'Bollix' Canning who couldn't commentate on a pillow fight.

The Sunday Game needs an overhaul - more action and less talk.

Why spend the guts of an hour yapping about 2 live matches that were shown a few hours previously and show longer highlights of the matches that weren't shown live.

Time to jettison the attention seeking Brolly and Spillane combination and get shot of Canning at the same time.

The best RTE football pundit I thought was Anthony Tohill and they didn't keep him in the seat for too long for some reason.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on May 21, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
EVERY time a player gets a goal Ger intones 'his **th ever championship goal'!! Wtaf. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 21, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.
Thomas Niblock's commentary was refreshing and a damn sight better than Ger 'Bollix' Canning who couldn't commentate on a pillow fight.

The Sunday Game needs an overhaul - more action and less talk.

Why spend the guts of an hour yapping about 2 live matches that were shown a few hours previously and show longer highlights of the matches that weren't shown live.

Time to jettison the attention seeking Brolly and Spillane combination and get shot of Canning at the same time.

The best RTE football pundit I thought was Anthony Tohill and they didn't keep him in the seat for too long for some reason.

Cause big Tohill said it as it was and it didn't go down to well
A lot of people don't like the truth
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on May 21, 2019, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 10:55:12 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 20, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 20, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 20, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 20, 2019, 12:06:01 PM
The "analysis" of the Sligo v Galway game last night was tremendous. Sean Cavanagh basically had a whinge about structures for 2 minutes and then Des goes "and now moving on". I didn't expect them to say much about the game as it probably didn't deserve more than a couple of minutes but at least make some kind of half hearted effort. All the other games got it but this one was just brushed aside.
Brolly did the same last week for Leitrim v Roscommon
Seems the Ulster boys are quite condescending towards connacht teams

And Cavan haven't exactly been overly competitive in Ulster for 3 decades. (97 excepted)

Check your facts then. Maybe it is your own county you are thinking of regarding not being competitive for decades?
What facts?
Cavan haven't won an Ulster in 22 years and before that it was 28 years
So that's 50 years and one title

Interestingly, in that time Down have only won 5, Monaghan 5 and Derry 6.
And the wait for an Ulster for two of those is stretching on much longer than either might have ever imagined.

Yeah, our wait of 17 years seemed like a lifetime when we finally won in 1999. Now it doesn't seem so bad compared to Derry and Down's wait.
Hard to believe it's 11 years since our last, doesn't be long going by. The USFC could be gone as we know it by the time 17 years comes round again. I wouldn't like too much money riding on Armagh winning an USFC in the next 6 years either come to think of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 21, 2019, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 21, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
EVERY time a player gets a goal Ger intones 'his **th ever championship goal'!! Wtaf.
Either that or he'll tell you how many minutes are gone, or indeed both. He does love saying "ever" a lot for some reason. Though I still find Morrissey more of a pain though, Canning mightn't be great to listen but all the same he seems not too determined to make the major moments about him, Morrissey came out with one seemingly well-received monologue before a hurling final a few years ago and seems insistent and trying to emulate that year after year, the numerous Dolores O'Riordan references in last year's hurling final were cringeworthy beyond belief.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2019, 04:50:11 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 21, 2019, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 21, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
EVERY time a player gets a goal Ger intones 'his **th ever championship goal'!! Wtaf.
Either that or he'll tell you how many minutes are gone, or indeed both. He does love saying "ever" a lot for some reason. Though I still find Morrissey more of a pain though, Canning mightn't be great to listen but all the same he seems not too determined to make the major moments about him, Morrissey came out with one seemingly well-received monologue before a hurling final a few years ago and seems insistent and trying to emulate that year after year, the numerous Dolores O'Riordan references in last year's hurling final were cringeworthy beyond belief.

Did you have to, did you have to, did you have to let it "linger on" until the end of your post? I fully agree with you about Morrissey. They sure love their football in (insert county) annoys the hell out of me too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on May 21, 2019, 04:58:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 21, 2019, 04:05:47 PM
Hard to believe it's 11 years since our last, doesn't be long going by. The USFC could be gone as we know it by the time 17 years comes round again. I wouldn't like too much money riding on Armagh winning an USFC in the next 6 years either come to think of it.

Funny I wouldn't bet against any of the top 7 Ulster counties picking up an Ulster title in the next 5 years. All it would take is tor the draw to take out either Tyrone or Donegal and preferably for them Monaghan and they beat each other to get to a final.  I think within a few years anything can change to allow Down, Derry, Cavan, Armagh to beat one of the other three in a final. A few of them seem to be heading in an upward trajectory at the moment so I'm hoping that Ulster will remain competitive and become even more so in the years to come. Fermanagh and Antrim I think it's just too much of an ask to see them competing for a few years but fair play to Fermanagh for last year!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 21, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
And if a hurler kicks the ball.." they can play football in ..."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 21, 2019, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 21, 2019, 03:19:27 PM
EVERY time a player gets a goal Ger intones 'his **th ever championship goal'!! Wtaf.

Also, "and it's 3 points to 2 with 12 minutes gone". Commentary by numbers. Brutal. I actually mute the action now if Canning is on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 21, 2019, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 21, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.
Thomas Niblock's commentary was refreshing and a damn sight better than Ger 'Bollix' Canning who couldn't commentate on a pillow fight.

The Sunday Game needs an overhaul - more action and less talk.

Why spend the guts of an hour yapping about 2 live matches that were shown a few hours previously and show longer highlights of the matches that weren't shown live.

Time to jettison the attention seeking Brolly and Spillane combination and get shot of Canning at the same time.

The best RTE football pundit I thought was Anthony Tohill and they didn't keep him in the seat for too long for some reason.

Cause big Tohill said it as it was and it didn't go down to well
A lot of people don't like the truth

Was Tohill used on TSG up until his accident which left him with a facial scar? Maybe it's a coincidence, but I haven't really seen Tohill being interviewed or on TV since. Maybe he's self conscious about appearances?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
And if a hurler kicks the ball.." they can play football in ..."

If a defender scores, "and he has number 4 on his back"...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 22, 2019, 12:06:38 PM
The problem with TV sports though is they're not interested (RTE in particular) in the likes of us - people who are that interested (some even knowledgeable) we'd post on a discussion board. We'll watch regardless.

They want to attract the guys who don't have a clue and get them talking in the office, factory floor, in the vans etc to their similarly mildly interested mates about "what yer man said...jazes it was gas...". Its about ratings and despite the crap fare on offer the committed fans are in the bag.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oakleaflad on May 22, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 21, 2019, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 21, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.
Thomas Niblock's commentary was refreshing and a damn sight better than Ger 'Bollix' Canning who couldn't commentate on a pillow fight.

The Sunday Game needs an overhaul - more action and less talk.

Why spend the guts of an hour yapping about 2 live matches that were shown a few hours previously and show longer highlights of the matches that weren't shown live.

Time to jettison the attention seeking Brolly and Spillane combination and get shot of Canning at the same time.

The best RTE football pundit I thought was Anthony Tohill and they didn't keep him in the seat for too long for some reason.

Cause big Tohill said it as it was and it didn't go down to well
A lot of people don't like the truth

Was Tohill used on TSG up until his accident which left him with a facial scar? Maybe it's a coincidence, but I haven't really seen Tohill being interviewed or on TV since. Maybe he's self conscious about appearances?
Nah, he hadn't been on TSG for a few years before the accident. Also thought Tohill was the best pundit on RTE, probably spoke too much sense for them though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on May 22, 2019, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 22, 2019, 12:22:45 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 21, 2019, 05:33:59 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 21, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on May 21, 2019, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 20, 2019, 08:10:19 PM
BBC's deferred coverage of Down v Armagh was good. The post match on-pitch chat between Oisin, Mark and Marty was entertaining.
The commentator's gaffes during the game just add to the enjoyment. McHugh? what can you say?  he's unique, the lack of coordination between thought, language, expression and time, is endearing.

Despite the sunday game going into extra time, BBC still rendered a full highlights edition of the Cavan Monaghan game.
Thomas Niblock's commentary was refreshing and a damn sight better than Ger 'Bollix' Canning who couldn't commentate on a pillow fight.

The Sunday Game needs an overhaul - more action and less talk.

Why spend the guts of an hour yapping about 2 live matches that were shown a few hours previously and show longer highlights of the matches that weren't shown live.

Time to jettison the attention seeking Brolly and Spillane combination and get shot of Canning at the same time.

The best RTE football pundit I thought was Anthony Tohill and they didn't keep him in the seat for too long for some reason.

Cause big Tohill said it as it was and it didn't go down to well
A lot of people don't like the truth

Was Tohill used on TSG up until his accident which left him with a facial scar? Maybe it's a coincidence, but I haven't really seen Tohill being interviewed or on TV since. Maybe he's self conscious about appearances?
Nah, he hadn't been on TSG for a few years before the accident. Also thought Tohill was the best pundit on RTE, probably spoke too much sense for them though.

Didn't talk shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on May 22, 2019, 03:17:27 PM
Just got round to watching it yesterday and have to say Kevin McStay's analysis was shocking. He was like a cub that forgot to do his homework and was just winging it in front of the class.

Firstly he started out by claiming Cavan's penalty was a defo penalty and proceeded to convince no one, then he had some shitty graphic and took 3 mintues to explain to us that if you win a long kickout you have less distance to go up the field (WTF!) and then the rest of his time was consumed by pointing out were Cavan maybe could have had a goal and had the game wrapped up at half time.

He made Sean look like an expert....terrible stuff altogether
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on May 22, 2019, 04:34:28 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
And if a hurler kicks the ball.." they can play football in ..."

If a defender scores, "and he has number 4 on his back"...
"....and O'Connor send its over the bar. It's 6 points to 3.
DOUBLE SCORES!"

Woopidity-do, it's just a 3 point lead chap!

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 22, 2019, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2019, 12:06:38 PM
The problem with TV sports though is they're not interested (RTE in particular) in the likes of us - people who are that interested (some even knowledgeable) we'd post on a discussion board. We'll watch regardless.

They want to attract the guys who don't have a clue and get them talking in the office, factory floor, in the vans etc to their similarly mildly interested mates about "what yer man said...jazes it was gas...". Its about ratings and despite the crap fare on offer the committed fans are in the bag.

Sadly you are completely correct here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on May 26, 2019, 01:47:59 AM
rte radio sport has gone downhill big time in their gaa live broadcasts....more of the bloody pc rubbish of having a female co-commentator....on the radio this evening for the meath-carlow game, the "female voice" was briege corkery who clearly had no clue about the meath players and even less about the Carlow lads....she started out with a lovely gem, describing the meath-carlow game  as a big local derby  ::) ::) ::).....at 600 euro a pop, you would expect some degree of research.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2019, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: Hound on May 22, 2019, 04:34:28 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 21, 2019, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
And if a hurler kicks the ball.." they can play football in ..."

If a defender scores, "and he has number 4 on his back"...
"....and O'Connor send its over the bar. It's 6 points to 3.
DOUBLE SCORES!"

Woopidity-do, it's just a 3 point lead chap!
It's a one score game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 26, 2019, 04:54:01 PM
The All Ireland Hurling tickets competition is open to RoI entrants only.  Seriously.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on May 26, 2019, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on May 26, 2019, 01:47:59 AM
rte radio sport has gone downhill big time in their gaa live broadcasts....more of the bloody pc rubbish of having a female co-commentator....on the radio this evening for the meath-carlow game, the "female voice" was briege corkery who clearly had no clue about the meath players and even less about the Carlow lads....she started out with a lovely gem, describing the meath-carlow game  as a big local derby  ::) ::) ::).....at 600 euro a pop, you would expect some degree of research.

So what's the issue?

That she was female or, in your opinion, ill-informed?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thebar on May 26, 2019, 06:12:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 26, 2019, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on May 26, 2019, 01:47:59 AM
rte radio sport has gone downhill big time in their gaa live broadcasts....more of the bloody pc rubbish of having a female co-commentator....on the radio this evening for the meath-carlow game, the "female voice" was briege corkery who clearly had no clue about the meath players and even less about the Carlow lads....she started out with a lovely gem, describing the meath-carlow game  as a big local derby  ::) ::) ::).....at 600 euro a pop, you would expect some degree of research.

So what's the issue?

That she was female or, in your opinion, ill-informed?


Meath Carlow is not a local derby. Thats a fact not opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on May 26, 2019, 06:36:21 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 26, 2019, 04:54:01 PM
The All Ireland Hurling tickets competition is open to RoI entrants only.  Seriously.

Sure us uncouth nordies dont follow the game of the gods. Only interested in that aul bogball.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 26, 2019, 06:42:17 PM
You'd imagine football be first with two crackers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on May 26, 2019, 07:06:05 PM
I listened in car too while travelling. No issue that she was female, she just didn't have a clue & struggled to string a coherent sentence together. As in all walks of life we should have gender balance but only when the person concerned can do the job
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on May 26, 2019, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: sambostar on May 26, 2019, 07:06:05 PM
I listened in car too while travelling. No issue that she was female, she just didn't have a clue & struggled to string a coherent sentence together. As in all walks of life we should have gender balance but only when the person concerned can do the job

Well given that people are forever complaining about the standard of commentary and analysis from the men involved, I think the poster could have left the PC "argument" out of it.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 26, 2019, 07:17:39 PM
She was almost as good as Martin Carney.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 26, 2019, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 26, 2019, 06:42:17 PM
You'd imagine football be first with two crackers.

Be interesting to see what opens the show. RTE could make their hurling bias more overt & official and thus show the Salthill match first
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 26, 2019, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 26, 2019, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: sambostar on May 26, 2019, 07:06:05 PM
I listened in car too while travelling. No issue that she was female, she just didn't have a clue & struggled to string a coherent sentence together. As in all walks of life we should have gender balance but only when the person concerned can do the job

Well given that people are forever complaining about the standard of commentary and analysis from the men involved, I think the poster could have left the PC "argument" out of it.
There was definite gender bias in the poster's complaint and J70 did well to highlight it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on May 26, 2019, 09:24:55 PM
It's ridiculous the number of female "pundits" we have now all in the name of being PC, most of them totally out of their depth.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 26, 2019, 09:52:43 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on May 26, 2019, 09:24:55 PM
It's ridiculous the number of female "pundits" we have now all in the name of being PC, most of them totally out of their depth.

Most of the RTE male ones are too apart from Whelan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 26, 2019, 10:31:44 PM
 Joe is awful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: recyclebin on May 26, 2019, 11:06:21 PM
2 mins of highlights for Laois Westmeath. 2 and half for Kildare Longford. They spent half an hour on the Mayo Roscommon match that was televised live last night. What a joke having to sit though all that and Brolly.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on May 26, 2019, 11:16:06 PM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on May 26, 2019, 01:47:59 AM
rte radio sport has gone downhill big time in their gaa live broadcasts....more of the bloody pc rubbish of having a female co-commentator....on the radio this evening for the meath-carlow game, the "female voice" was briege corkery who clearly had no clue about the meath players and even less about the Carlow lads....she started out with a lovely gem, describing the meath-carlow game  as a big local derby  ::) ::) ::).....at 600 euro a pop, you would expect some degree of research.

With 18 all Ireland's in the pocket, we'll afford her a few bloopers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Boy Wonder on May 26, 2019, 11:31:55 PM
It's absolutely ludicrous that The Sunday Game has been allowed to become a platform for Joe Brolly - they might just call it The Joe Brolly Show.
He is being allowed to pontificate for an inordinate amount of time which is reducing the amount of time devoted to match highlights - what most of us want to see.
Nor does he have the manners to allow his co-analyst say his piece without interruption.
Surely those in charge of The Sunday Game should rein him in and instruct him to keep his analysis short and sweet.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 26, 2019, 11:43:52 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1132753585698041861 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1132753585698041861)

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on May 26, 2019, 11:46:07 PM
Joe is a wind up merchant. I found him quite funny tonight although his consistent interrupting is a bit OTT.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 26, 2019, 11:59:46 PM
Joe is an ignorant shite. His constant chirping and interrupting puts other analysts off their flow when speaking. He obviously never got enough slaps upside the jaw when he was a youngster.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on May 27, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Thought his article in the Indo today was appalling, especially the attack on Andy Moran.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on May 27, 2019, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Thought his article in the Indo today was appalling, especially the attack on Andy Moran.

Didn't read the article but he was spot on in his analysis of Mayo on the Sunday Game tonight. He nailed it tbf.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on May 27, 2019, 12:40:08 AM
Quote from: moysider on May 27, 2019, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Thought his article in the Indo today was appalling, especially the attack on Andy Moran.

Didn't read the article but he was spot on in his analysis of Mayo on the Sunday Game tonight. He nailed it tbf.
+1 You are bang on moy!
Look, the truth can hurt but it is the truth and no half reasonable Mayo fan or player can dispute what he has to say about Mayo's lack of killer instinct or composure when rattled or whatever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 12:46:42 AM
Quote from: moysider on May 27, 2019, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Thought his article in the Indo today was appalling, especially the attack on Andy Moran.

Didn't read the article but he was spot on in his analysis of Mayo on the Sunday Game tonight. He nailed it tbf.

The truth hurts and it hurts more when it is presented with sarcasm and a wry grin. The heel is firmly on the throat when criticising Mayo and their failures. They are (and have been) the easy target! That article could be written about any county in Ireland (bar Dublin). And will be as the Championship progresses.

On the other hand Dublin are applauded by Brolly, with a blind eye cast as to the financial doping and other obvious advantages that has helped this great team to become what they are. It's as if this all sprang out of nowhere and was down to great natural players and management alone. Almost like a fluke of nature.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on May 27, 2019, 01:23:36 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 12:46:42 AM
Quote from: moysider on May 27, 2019, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Thought his article in the Indo today was appalling, especially the attack on Andy Moran.

Didn't read the article but he was spot on in his analysis of Mayo on the Sunday Game tonight. He nailed it tbf.

The truth hurts and it hurts more when it is presented with sarcasm and a wry grin. The heel is firmly on the throat when criticising Mayo and their failures. They are (and have been) the easy target! That article could be written about any county in Ireland (bar Dublin). And will be as the Championship progresses.

On the other hand Dublin are applauded by Brolly, with a blind eye cast as to the financial doping and other obvious advantages that has helped this great team to become what they are. It's as if this all sprang out of nowhere and was down to great natural players and management alone. Almost like a fluke of nature.

I've said this before about Brolly. His grin is his natural expression and not intentionally a 'grin' as such. His quote ' teams don't fear Mayo' is probably the most insightful thing that has been said. Mayo gives everybody a chance of landing a blow. You've always got a good chance Mayo will give you a leg up.
The missed O Connor chance on Saturday evening: The 40 yard pass from Regan was perfect. Not quite as great as Jimmy Burke to Seán Lowry in '85 but exceptional.  Regan was playing really well and would have kicked 2 later frees but Horan hauled him ashore. ??? After Coen he was going best of the forwards and no need to get Andy on that early - if at all. Andy for Coen later would have been the way to go when Coen's legs were shot. A plus for Mayo is that Coen can play. Always technically good but never had the conditioning necessary and still has a bit to go for a full game.
Horan had a bad day and putting it down to wides in his post-match interview is, hopefully just ould guff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on May 27, 2019, 08:36:29 AM
So the football was on first and we got analysis of games with teams from all divisions. Spare a though for Kerry and Westmeath hurlers who played one of  the games of the weekend and they didnt even give the score. They are arguably the top teams in hurling's second tier. Take note!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 27, 2019, 09:39:01 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 27, 2019, 12:40:08 AM
Quote from: moysider on May 27, 2019, 12:25:41 AM
Quote from: J70 on May 27, 2019, 12:18:26 AM
Thought his article in the Indo today was appalling, especially the attack on Andy Moran.

Didn't read the article but he was spot on in his analysis of Mayo on the Sunday Game tonight. He nailed it tbf.
+1 You are bang on moy!
Look, the truth can hurt but it is the truth and no half reasonable Mayo fan or player can dispute what he has to say about Mayo's lack of killer instinct or composure when rattled or whatever.
The pair of ye are bang on unfortunately. Even if Mayo went 9 or 10 points up, they'd give us torture to close out a game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2019, 09:56:27 AM
Ignoring the howlers in the two mins of Longford v Kildare (wrong players.....wrong half time scores etc) Des described the Laois v Westmeath as a cracker as well.

Christ on a bike. Lazy research. The game was the worst 70+ minutes of my life and everyone around me were appalled at WH's efforts. At least Laois tried to play football.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2019, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2019, 09:56:27 AM
Ignoring the howlers in the two mins of Longford v Kildare (wrong players.....wrong half time scores etc) Des described the Laois v Westmeath as a cracker as well.

Christ on a bike. Lazy research. The game was the worst 70+ minutes of my life and everyone around me were appalled at WH's efforts. At least Laois tried to play football.

I think someone has had a word in Des's ear about the RTE's negativity towards football and he's trying to address it, picked the wrong game to be positive about though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 27, 2019, 09:59:17 AM
The Dub fans on the train or however they got there got how many minutes?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 27, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
I actually liked that MOTD2 style Dubs on the train, but why are we doing this epic intro on top of that.

Also we know it's 40 years old but surely we can get a clip of Wexford in Leinster action rather than looking back on their All Ireland befpre a round robin game?

Those poetic promos with lots of slo-mos are a bore at this stage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 27, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 27, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
I actually liked that MOTD2 style Dubs on the train, but why are we doing this epic intro on top of that.

Also we know it's 40 years old but surely we can get a clip of Wexford in Leinster action rather than looking back on their All Ireland befpre a round robin game?

Those poetic promos with lots of slo-mos are a bore at this stage.

Ah Jesus, they do my head in, those things.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on May 27, 2019, 10:44:43 AM
Did you see Brolly re: Carlow analysis. What a tool.

So he knows intrinsically what Carlow management and players are thinking. Des correctly pointed out about their promotion, but he dismissed it. The man is never wrong. Phrases like "we've discussed this before" and "I won't repeat myself" instills this 'shut up, I'm always right' mentality. Whelan chuckled to himself and shook his head, and Des had to stop himself from doing likewise, as it all finished.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 27, 2019, 09:59:17 AM
The Dub fans on the train or however they got there got how many minutes?

They had to show the once off novelty factor that it is for Dublin fans to travel to games. Can you imagine that segment done on any other county?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 27, 2019, 11:14:42 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 10:49:18 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 27, 2019, 09:59:17 AM
The Dub fans on the train or however they got there got how many minutes?

They had to show the once off novelty factor that it is for Dublin fans to travel to games. Can you imagine that segment done on any other county?
its a wonder they don't show them getting getting off the Luas
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on May 27, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 27, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 27, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
I actually liked that MOTD2 style Dubs on the train, but why are we doing this epic intro on top of that.

Also we know it's 40 years old but surely we can get a clip of Wexford in Leinster action rather than looking back on their All Ireland befpre a round robin game?

Those poetic promos with lots of slo-mos are a bore at this stage.

Ah Jesus, they do my head in, those things.

+1000

Badly written, sloppily edited, poorly performed. Complete waste of time, as was the Dubs on the train -

"So, do you think the Dubs will do 5 in a row?"
"Ah, yeah."
"And what will you do then?"
"Get locked".
"Ha, ha, ha, good man, good man....hmm....what station are we at? ....Any sign of Portlaoise yet?.....Jaysis, Iarnroid Eireann are a shambles, wha?....Turn off the camera there....Please....turn it off!"

Dubs intend getting scoobied when we do 5 in a row. Hardly the third secret of Fatima.

RTE spending money on this, thinking that editorially it was worth anything, on one of the busiest weekends in the provincial championships. Now there is a mystery.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on May 27, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 27, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 27, 2019, 10:13:55 AM
I actually liked that MOTD2 style Dubs on the train, but why are we doing this epic intro on top of that.

Also we know it's 40 years old but surely we can get a clip of Wexford in Leinster action rather than looking back on their All Ireland befpre a round robin game?

Those poetic promos with lots of slo-mos are a bore at this stage.

Ah Jesus, they do my head in, those things.

+1000

Badly written, sloppily edited, poorly performed. Complete waste of time, as was the Dubs on the train -

"So, do you think the Dubs will do 5 in a row?"
"Ah, yeah."
"And what will you do then?"
"Get locked".
"Ha, ha, ha, good man, good man....hmm....what station are we at? ....Any sign of Portlaoise yet?.....Jaysis, Iarnroid Eireann are a shambles, wha?....Turn off the camera there....Please....turn it off!"

Dubs intend getting scoobied when we do 5 in a row. Hardly the third secret of Fatima.

RTE spending money on this, thinking that editorially it was worth anything, on one of the busiest weekends in the provincial championships. Now there is a mystery.

In fairness it is a rare occurrence, so RTE thought it might be nice to cover the novelty of Dublin fans on the Road for a championship game. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 06:37:36 PM
Brolly was spot on calling out Gallagher's ridiculous tactics and the ongoing fragility of the Mayo footballers.  He is sanctimonious, but key points needed saying.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 27, 2019, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 06:37:36 PM
Brolly was spot on calling out Gallagher's ridiculous tactics and the ongoing fragility of the Mayo footballers.  He is sanctimonious, but key points needed saying.

He calls out their fragility but reckons sports psychology is nonsense. The mans a walking oxymoron.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 06:56:25 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 06:37:36 PM
Brolly was spot on calling out Gallagher's ridiculous tactics and the ongoing fragility of the Mayo footballers.  He is sanctimonious, but key points needed saying.

Gallagher's ridiculous tactics were the reason Fermanagh beat Monaghan last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 07:02:53 PM
His point was that they offered nothing to Gaelic football. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2019, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 07:02:53 PM
His point was that they offered nothing to Gaelic football.

They offer hope to Gaelic football followers in Fermanagh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 27, 2019, 07:17:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 07:02:53 PM
His point was that they offered nothing to Gaelic football.

They don't have to. They just have to do what's in their own interest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 07:22:44 PM
I'd love to meet a Fermanagh family who were inspired by that muck. Brolly also made the point that Fermanagh have excellent footballers who are capable of so much more.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 31, 2019, 11:02:00 AM
QuoteI'm an avid GAA fan and an avid watcher of The Sunday Game and I'm fully aware that no one can please all of the people all of the time but I do have some observations about last Sunday's edition (May 26th).

You covered four Leinster quarter-finals in football. The entire package on the Laois/Westmeath match was 2 mins 44 secs. The Kildare/Longford package was 3 mins 40 secs. The Carlow/Meath package was 4 mins 53 secs and the Dublin/Louth package was 7 mins 6 secs.

Quite a disparity and, given that Dublin will progress through to late summer while most, if not all, of the other teams in Leinster will have one or two more outings maximum, would it not be worthwhile giving the weight of time to those teams before they disappear from the championship?

And, please, don't fob me off with the notion that because the first two matches mentioned were on Sunday you had a shortage of editing time!

Part of the Dublin/Louth package was a piece on Dublin fans travelling to Portlaoise - less than an hour down the road - as if it were a trip to Antarctica. What about the fans who travel throughout the summer to Croke Park for Dublin's plethora of (effectively) home games?

Stolen from the Kildare Forum
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 31, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 27, 2019, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 06:37:36 PM
Brolly was spot on calling out Gallagher's ridiculous tactics and the ongoing fragility of the Mayo footballers.  He is sanctimonious, but key points needed saying.

He calls out their fragility but reckons sports psychology is nonsense. The mans a walking oxymoron.
They don't have the forwards basically
You can't swap psychology for scoring forwards
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 31, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 31, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 27, 2019, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 27, 2019, 06:37:36 PM
Brolly was spot on calling out Gallagher's ridiculous tactics and the ongoing fragility of the Mayo footballers.  He is sanctimonious, but key points needed saying.

He calls out their fragility but reckons sports psychology is nonsense. The mans a walking oxymoron.
They don't have the forwards basically
You can't swap psychology for scoring forwards

Brolly want them to play gung-ho, Take a tanking, and then hold his hands broadly up in the air and say there is a need for a second tier with the gap there is among teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on May 31, 2019, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 31, 2019, 11:02:00 AM
QuoteI'm an avid GAA fan and an avid watcher of The Sunday Game and I'm fully aware that no one can please all of the people all of the time but I do have some observations about last Sunday's edition (May 26th).

You covered four Leinster quarter-finals in football. The entire package on the Laois/Westmeath match was 2 mins 44 secs. The Kildare/Longford package was 3 mins 40 secs. The Carlow/Meath package was 4 mins 53 secs and the Dublin/Louth package was 7 mins 6 secs.

Quite a disparity and, given that Dublin will progress through to late summer while most, if not all, of the other teams in Leinster will have one or two more outings maximum, would it not be worthwhile giving the weight of time to those teams before they disappear from the championship?

And, please, don't fob me off with the notion that because the first two matches mentioned were on Sunday you had a shortage of editing time!

Part of the Dublin/Louth package was a piece on Dublin fans travelling to Portlaoise - less than an hour down the road - as if it were a trip to Antarctica. What about the fans who travel throughout the summer to Croke Park for Dublin's plethora of (effectively) home games?

Stolen from the Kildare Forum

Why did he want to watch more of those games? Was it part of his penance from confessions?

Seriously I argue that teams who play games at their own level that they know they can win would abandon negative defensive tactics and go out to score and win. That's the issue. Teams play defensively not to get stuffed but play attacking football to win.
Leinster would benefit, Fermanagh would Benefit and TV would benefit. The games would be more attractive and more people would want to watch them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 31, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 31, 2019, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 31, 2019, 11:02:00 AM
QuoteI'm an avid GAA fan and an avid watcher of The Sunday Game and I'm fully aware that no one can please all of the people all of the time but I do have some observations about last Sunday's edition (May 26th).

You covered four Leinster quarter-finals in football. The entire package on the Laois/Westmeath match was 2 mins 44 secs. The Kildare/Longford package was 3 mins 40 secs. The Carlow/Meath package was 4 mins 53 secs and the Dublin/Louth package was 7 mins 6 secs.

Quite a disparity and, given that Dublin will progress through to late summer while most, if not all, of the other teams in Leinster will have one or two more outings maximum, would it not be worthwhile giving the weight of time to those teams before they disappear from the championship?

And, please, don't fob me off with the notion that because the first two matches mentioned were on Sunday you had a shortage of editing time!

Part of the Dublin/Louth package was a piece on Dublin fans travelling to Portlaoise - less than an hour down the road - as if it were a trip to Antarctica. What about the fans who travel throughout the summer to Croke Park for Dublin's plethora of (effectively) home games?

Stolen from the Kildare Forum

Why did he want to watch more of those games? Was it part of his penance from confessions?

Seriously I argue that teams who play games at their own level that they know they can win would abandon negative defensive tactics and go out to score and win. That's the issue. Teams play defensively not to get stuffed but play attacking football to win.
Leinster would benefit, Fermanagh would Benefit and TV would benefit. The games would be more attractive and more people would want to watch them.

There are a plethora of Round one game in the back door with teams of a similar level playing each other, a almost mirror image of a 2nd tier championship. And Nobody cares. There will be no live TV and the crowds will be small.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on May 31, 2019, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 31, 2019, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 31, 2019, 11:02:00 AM
QuoteI'm an avid GAA fan and an avid watcher of The Sunday Game and I'm fully aware that no one can please all of the people all of the time but I do have some observations about last Sunday's edition (May 26th).

You covered four Leinster quarter-finals in football. The entire package on the Laois/Westmeath match was 2 mins 44 secs. The Kildare/Longford package was 3 mins 40 secs. The Carlow/Meath package was 4 mins 53 secs and the Dublin/Louth package was 7 mins 6 secs.

Quite a disparity and, given that Dublin will progress through to late summer while most, if not all, of the other teams in Leinster will have one or two more outings maximum, would it not be worthwhile giving the weight of time to those teams before they disappear from the championship?

And, please, don't fob me off with the notion that because the first two matches mentioned were on Sunday you had a shortage of editing time!

Part of the Dublin/Louth package was a piece on Dublin fans travelling to Portlaoise - less than an hour down the road - as if it were a trip to Antarctica. What about the fans who travel throughout the summer to Croke Park for Dublin's plethora of (effectively) home games?

Stolen from the Kildare Forum

Why did he want to watch more of those games? Was it part of his penance from confessions?

Seriously I argue that teams who play games at their own level that they know they can win would abandon negative defensive tactics and go out to score and win. That's the issue. Teams play defensively not to get stuffed but play attacking football to win.
Leinster would benefit, Fermanagh would Benefit and TV would benefit. The games would be more attractive and more people would want to watch them.

There are a plethora of Round one game in the back door with teams of a similar level playing each other, a almost mirror image of a 2nd tier championship. And Nobody cares. There will be no live TV and the crowds will be small.

But they're only fulfilling fixtures. They're not going to win an AI. Why would you bother to watch it? Tier the championship and give them something to play for.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on May 31, 2019, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 31, 2019, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 31, 2019, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 31, 2019, 12:46:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 31, 2019, 11:02:00 AM
QuoteI'm an avid GAA fan and an avid watcher of The Sunday Game and I'm fully aware that no one can please all of the people all of the time but I do have some observations about last Sunday's edition (May 26th).

You covered four Leinster quarter-finals in football. The entire package on the Laois/Westmeath match was 2 mins 44 secs. The Kildare/Longford package was 3 mins 40 secs. The Carlow/Meath package was 4 mins 53 secs and the Dublin/Louth package was 7 mins 6 secs.

Quite a disparity and, given that Dublin will progress through to late summer while most, if not all, of the other teams in Leinster will have one or two more outings maximum, would it not be worthwhile giving the weight of time to those teams before they disappear from the championship?

And, please, don't fob me off with the notion that because the first two matches mentioned were on Sunday you had a shortage of editing time!

Part of the Dublin/Louth package was a piece on Dublin fans travelling to Portlaoise - less than an hour down the road - as if it were a trip to Antarctica. What about the fans who travel throughout the summer to Croke Park for Dublin's plethora of (effectively) home games?

Stolen from the Kildare Forum

Why did he want to watch more of those games? Was it part of his penance from confessions?

Seriously I argue that teams who play games at their own level that they know they can win would abandon negative defensive tactics and go out to score and win. That's the issue. Teams play defensively not to get stuffed but play attacking football to win.
Leinster would benefit, Fermanagh would Benefit and TV would benefit. The games would be more attractive and more people would want to watch them.

There are a plethora of Round one game in the back door with teams of a similar level playing each other, a almost mirror image of a 2nd tier championship. And Nobody cares. There will be no live TV and the crowds will be small.

But they're only fulfilling fixtures. They're not going to win an AI. Why would you bother to watch it? Tier the championship and give them something to play for.

They'll only be fulfilling fixtures in a 'B' Competition as well and they are not going to win an AI!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: giveballaghback on June 02, 2019, 10:37:45 PM
Rte has made a blunder by concentrating nearly exclusively on hurling for their live games, what a damp squib the last few weeks have been and meanwhile all the close games and the excitement is in the football championship on sky and deferred on the bbc. Already the sheen has worn off the round robin system in hurling with very one sided games and even that Galway Wexford drawn game last week was like watching paint dry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 02, 2019, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 02, 2019, 10:37:45 PM
Rte has made a blunder by concentrating nearly exclusively on hurling for their live games, what a damp squib the last few weeks have been and meanwhile all the close games and the excitement is in the football championship on sky and deferred on the bbc. Already the sheen has worn off the round robin system in hurling with very one sided games and even that Galway Wexford drawn game last week was like watching paint dry.

They certainly have not! Hurling is the noble entertaining game. The Big Ball game has no excitement and we have to all wait until we get to the Super Duper 8's before our fragile eyes will be able to cope with such a spectacle. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 02, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
Pat Spillane taking down Kerry for their laboured win v a decent Clare team even though the game was won at half time and talking up Cork for recent wins in challenges and hammering a Division four Limerick was hilarious.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 03, 2019, 12:48:29 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 02, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
Pat Spillane taking down Kerry for their laboured win v a decent Clare team even though the game was won at half time and talking up Cork for recent wins in challenges and hammering a Division four Limerick was hilarious.

In fairness I thought Spillane talked Kerry up. Whelan who called out doubts about them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 03, 2019, 08:56:05 AM
So Pat Spillane reckons Armagh are a very disciplined tackling team - do they even bother watching the games at RTE these days?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2019, 09:08:40 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 03, 2019, 08:56:05 AM
So Pat Spillane reckons Armagh are a very disciplined tackling team - do they even bother watching the games at RTE these days?

Did he watch James Morgan for the brief period of time he was on lol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheOptimist on June 03, 2019, 11:47:00 AM
The Limerick Manager talking about a tiered system. They were hammered by Cork who would be in tier 2 in a 2 tiered system  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 03, 2019, 11:52:03 AM
Under current proposals Cork wouldn't as they've reached the Provincial Final ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maiden1 on June 03, 2019, 03:34:48 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2019, 11:52:03 AM
Under current proposals Cork wouldn't as they've reached the Provincial Final ;)

https://twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1021154352692523010
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 03, 2019, 03:44:55 PM
Bit of a difference between GAA proposals under discussion and sh1te from Brolly and Ó Sé ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on June 03, 2019, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on June 03, 2019, 11:47:00 AM
The Limerick Manager talking about a tiered system. They were hammered by Cork who would be in tier 2 in a 2 tiered system  ::)

Ah they would be now but really Cork are a tier one team and wouldn't spend too many years in the second tier.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on June 03, 2019, 04:08:30 PM
Quote from: Jayop on June 03, 2019, 04:00:47 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on June 03, 2019, 11:47:00 AM
The Limerick Manager talking about a tiered system. They were hammered by Cork who would be in tier 2 in a 2 tiered system  ::)

Ah they would be now but really Cork are a tier one team and wouldn't spend too many years in the second tier.

Don't know about that, same was said when Cork was relegated to Div 2 in 2016. Too good will bounce straight back was the view but next year they will play in Div 3.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: larryin89 on June 03, 2019, 04:49:06 PM
Cork might surprise us all and beat Kerry
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 03, 2019, 07:44:19 PM
On the law of averages they're due to bate them soon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 03, 2019, 07:54:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2019, 07:44:19 PM
On the law of averages they're due to bate them soon.

Logic says it won't be any time soon. 2012 since Cork beat Kerry in the Munster championship and back then Cork were Div 1 NFL champions and one of the favouites for the AI that summer. 

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2019, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2019, 07:44:19 PM
On the law of averages they're due to bate them soon.

''Tis an honour to be playing against them lads like you know


And bating them"

https://youtu.be/peAFdYkxbVo
At 14:10

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 09:55:04 PM
No harm to Valerie Mulcahy but she is out of her depth here
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SouthDublinBro on June 09, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Peter Clark had a bad game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2019, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 09:55:04 PM
No harm to Valerie Mulcahy but she is out of her depth here

That comment is "divisive and mean spirited"!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 09, 2019, 10:09:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 09:55:04 PM
No harm to Valerie Mulcahy but she is out of her depth here
RTE's determination to have a woman included on almost every GAA punditry panel is ridiculous tokenism.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 09, 2019, 10:18:51 PM
RTE have got far too PC of late, the analysis will soon be of the Jim Gavin variety, bland boring analysis with pundits afraid to say anything remotely controversial.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on June 09, 2019, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 09, 2019, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 09:55:04 PM
No harm to Valerie Mulcahy but she is out of her depth here

That comment is "divisive and mean spirited"!
;D ;D
She dreamt of being on The Sunday Game as a lass, and nobody should be denied the opportunity to get there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2019, 10:32:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 09, 2019, 10:27:56 PM
It makes little difference. The men have fcuk all of note to add either.

+1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 09, 2019, 11:10:51 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 09, 2019, 10:09:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 09, 2019, 09:55:04 PM
No harm to Valerie Mulcahy but she is out of her depth here
RTE's determination to have a woman included on almost every GAA punditry panel is ridiculous tokenism.

Too right. Has she not got school uniforms to iron and childer to be putting to bed on a Sunday night?  ::)

Edit: just realised it's Valerie Mulcahy being referred to. That'd be a no then... Or you never know in these times!  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 09, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Peter Clark had a bad game

At least she corrected herself a minute or two later. Whelan the best pundit of all RTE can muster imo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on June 09, 2019, 11:29:18 PM
Why has this 'have a token woman' stuff happened all of a sudden? Same on BBC........it really takes away from the show and I think the fellas are uncomfortable. Well Des looks uncomfortable all the time!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2019, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: The Trap on June 09, 2019, 11:29:18 PM
Why has this 'have a token woman' stuff happened all of a sudden? Same on BBC........it really takes away from the show and I think the fellas are uncomfortable. Well Des looks uncomfortable all the time!

Gender quotas I suppose.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: The Trap on June 09, 2019, 11:38:27 PM
When did gender quotas start?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 09, 2019, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: The Trap on June 09, 2019, 11:29:18 PM
Why has this 'have a token woman' stuff happened all of a sudden? Same on BBC........it really takes away from the show and I think the fellas are uncomfortable. Well Des looks uncomfortable all the time!

It definitely reduces the manliness of things.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 10, 2019, 12:07:35 AM
BBC and itv do it with the men's soccer too.

Men should talk men's football. Women should talk women's football and camogie.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on June 10, 2019, 12:08:00 AM
Neil Mc Manus on today - I'd say, on first viewing, a lot of the southern brethern didn't know who he was.

He was grand I though.  Spoke well.  Maybe it's to make up for RTÉ's lack of Joe Mc Donagh coverage?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on June 10, 2019, 12:38:04 AM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 09, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Peter Clark had a bad game

Well according to Tomas O'Se a minute later, Jamie Malone slotted in Donegal's goal, so she is not alone in mangling the names.

As least she has inexperience in her defense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on June 10, 2019, 06:33:15 AM
She did alright 1st night on and so on.. first night is about getting thru it without rattling any cages and showing your face.
Was it O'Haras first night on that he launched into his wee spitful tirade on Walsh?  ;D ;D

Also McStay was on a few weeks back and it was embarrassing stuff... he just couldn't been arsed. Not that he is any good when he does prepare but he particularly slovenly that night.

We'll see after a few nights if she offers anything... prob not like most of them...but let's judge her based on that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on June 10, 2019, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 10, 2019, 06:33:15 AM
She did alright 1st night on and so on.. first night is about getting thru it without rattling any cages and showing your face.
Was it O'Haras first night on that he launched into his wee spitful tirade on Walsh?  ;D ;D

Also McStay was on a few weeks back and it was embarrassing stuff... he just couldn't been arsed. Not that he is any good when he does prepare but he particularly slovenly that night.

We'll see after a few nights if she offers anything... prob not like most of them...but let's judge her based on that.

Jeez,this token women stuff is a disaster,but unfortunately it is here to stay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2019, 04:25:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 10, 2019, 12:08:00 AM
Neil Mc Manus on today - I'd say, on first viewing, a lot of the southern brethern didn't know who he was.

He was grand I though.  Spoke well.  Maybe it's to make up for RTÉ's lack of Joe Mc Donagh coverage?
I thought he was very good
It's better to spread the jobs around the hurling counties
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on June 10, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
Some of the comments on this thread regarding women is straight out of the 1900s playbook. Criticise her by all means but criticise her the same way you'd criticise Whelan or O'se or Cavanagh. Not because she has a fanny instead of a c**k.

I'm actually scundered for some of you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
There are 2 reasons why women on TSG are required

1. A lot of viewers are female
2  Great role models for girls
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on June 10, 2019, 05:28:55 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 10, 2019, 12:08:00 AM
Neil Mc Manus on today - I'd say, on first viewing, a lot of the southern brethern didn't know who he was.

He was grand I though.  Spoke well.  Maybe it's to make up for RTÉ's lack of Joe Mc Donagh coverage?

That's exactly what it was for
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on June 10, 2019, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 10, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
There are 2 reasons why women on TSG are required

1. A lot of viewers are female
2  Great role models for girls

That's not the reasons and they aren't required
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2019, 06:11:54 PM


https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0425/1045679-women-on-the-couch-the-growth-in-female-sport-pundits/

"If you look at the audience, I'd say 30-40% of the audience are women watching it so it's only right that there are some women giving their views on it too," said Aine-Marie Hayes, the 2013 All-Ireland camogie winner who will be providing hurling analysis on the Sunday Game this season.

Jackie  Tyrrell is a Sunday Game regular having enjoyed stellar playing days with Kilkenny. He says: "Embracing change - that's what life is all about and we're seeing that in all sports now on all channels.
"I have been on a few panels with Anne Marie Hayes from Galway and she's really good, knows her stuff, and the first weekend this summer I'm on with Anthony Daly and Ursula Jacob, who's another really good hurling woman.
"It brings a freshness, it brings a new set of eyes, it brings a new approach and that's what it's all about - embracing change and running with it."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on June 10, 2019, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 09, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Peter Clark had a bad game

At least she corrected herself a minute or two later. Whelan the best pundit of all RTE can muster imo.

Sure what are pundits supposed to do and say?  We're all watching  the same bloody thing. If Whelan or whoever can can inform me at this stage about what I've just watched myself,  then I'm at the wrong gig. I want them to be outrageously biased and controversial like Jie Brolly. The tactical shite I can see for myself. I don't need Gary Neville type analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2019, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 10, 2019, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2019, 11:20:30 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on June 09, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
Peter Clark had a bad game

At least she corrected herself a minute or two later. Whelan the best pundit of all RTE can muster imo.

Sure what are pundits supposed to do and say?  We're all watching  the same bloody thing. If Whelan or whoever can can inform me at this stage about what I've just watched myself,  then I'm at the wrong gig. I want them to be outrageously biased and controversial like Jie Brolly. The tactical shite I can see for myself. I don't need Gary Neville type analysis.

And there was me wondering why this controversial RTE gimmick routine on their sports analysis is still running after all these years.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on June 10, 2019, 10:10:49 PM
Quote from: trailer on June 10, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
Some of the comments on this thread regarding women is straight out of the 1900s playbook. Criticise her by all means but criticise her the same way you'd criticise Whelan or O'se or Cavanagh. Not because she has a fanny instead of a c**k.

I'm actually scundered for some of you.

Your not from Tyrone are ye?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Whelan and O'Se and Cavanagh are on TSG because they played the game at the highest level and were some of the greatest performers of all time [well, except Whelan  ;)  ]

Valerie Mulcahy has not done so and does not therefore have the same entitlement to comment authoritatively.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on June 11, 2019, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Whelan and O'Se and Cavanagh are on TSG because they played the game at the highest level and were some of the greatest performers of all time [well, except Whelan  ;)  ]

Valerie Mulcahy has not done so and does not therefore have the same entitlement to comment authoritatively.

She has 10 All Irelands and 6 All Stars. But yeah, she hasn't played at the top level.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2019, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: trailer on June 11, 2019, 10:15:34 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Whelan and O'Se and Cavanagh are on TSG because they played the game at the highest level and were some of the greatest performers of all time [well, except Whelan  ;)  ]

Valerie Mulcahy has not done so and does not therefore have the same entitlement to comment authoritatively.

She has 10 All Irelands and 6 All Stars. But yeah, she hasn't played at the top level.
Not in the sport she is analysing though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: MoChara on June 11, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Whelan and O'Se and Cavanagh are on TSG because they played the game at the highest level and were some of the greatest performers of all time [well, except Whelan  ;)  ]

Valerie Mulcahy has not done so and does not therefore have the same entitlement to comment authoritatively.

Aye and Jose Mourinho knows f**k all about Soccer ball because he never played at an elite level
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: MoChara on June 11, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 10:12:05 AM
Whelan and O'Se and Cavanagh are on TSG because they played the game at the highest level and were some of the greatest performers of all time [well, except Whelan  ;)  ]

Valerie Mulcahy has not done so and does not therefore have the same entitlement to comment authoritatively.

Aye and Jose Mourinho knows f**k all about Soccer ball because he never played at an elite level

Sure Mourinho has never been on TSG!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 11, 2019, 01:18:59 PM
Jesus theres enough miseravle heures on TSG without bringin yer man on as well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on June 11, 2019, 01:23:32 PM
Racism, Sectarianism, Chauvenism. They're familiar bedfellows. It must always be challenged and called out.

Some people here should think about that.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on June 11, 2019, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: trailer on June 11, 2019, 01:23:32 PM
Racism, Sectarianism, Chauvenism. They're familiar bedfellows. It must always be challenged and called out.

Some people here should think about that.

+1

And may I add bad spelling to that list!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Some of ye must not have daughters because if you did you would surely be glad to see a sports woman centre stage having an opinion and inspiring other young girls to play sport and to speak up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on June 11, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Some of ye must not have daughters because if you did you would surely be glad to see a sports woman centre stage having an opinion and inspiring other young girls to play sport and to speak up.

I remember the coverage of the golf in the Irish Open a few years ago, it was anchored by a well known RTÉ lady ( who shall remain nameless) , a car crash of the highest order, still can't get it out of my mind. There would have been thousands of club golfers around the country who could have done a competent job.
And yes, I do have a daughter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 11, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Some of ye must not have daughters because if you did you would surely be glad to see a sports woman centre stage having an opinion and inspiring other young girls to play sport and to speak up.

I remember the coverage of the golf in the Irish Open a few years ago, it was anchored by a well known RTÉ lady ( who shall remain nameless) , a car crash of the highest order, still can't get it out of my mind. There would have been thousands of club golfers around the country who could have done a competent job.
And yes, I do have a daughter.

Was this because she was a woman or just nervous on the job?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 11, 2019, 02:25:46 PM
Next thing people will be outraged about the lack of women managers of men's county teams. A bit like the lack of black managers in English soccer  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on June 11, 2019, 02:34:49 PM
I thought Valerie Mulcahy did alright and its good to see new faces/voices on the Sunday game. Joe Brolly,Pat Spillane are well past their sell by date at this stage and can arguably be said their style of punditry was never suited to Gaelic football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 11, 2019, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2019, 02:34:49 PM
I thought Valerie Mulcahy did alright and its good to see new faces/voices on the Sunday game. Joe Brolly,Pat Spillane are well past their sell by date at this stage and can arguably be said their style of punditry was never suited to Gaelic football.

Thought she was very poor but it might have just been the nerves. Deserves another shot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on June 11, 2019, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2019, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 11, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Some of ye must not have daughters because if you did you would surely be glad to see a sports woman centre stage having an opinion and inspiring other young girls to play sport and to speak up.

I remember the coverage of the golf in the Irish Open a few years ago, it was anchored by a well known RTÉ lady ( who shall remain nameless) , a car crash of the highest order, still can't get it out of my mind. There would have been thousands of club golfers around the country who could have done a competent job.
And yes, I do have a daughter.

Was this because she was a woman or just nervous on the job?

None of the above, she just hadn't a clue about golf.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lurganblue on June 11, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
I found it a bit cringe worthy watching it but more because of how nervous and uncomfortable she appeared. To be expected I suppose. No doubt she will improve.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on June 11, 2019, 05:23:19 PM
More highlights and less analysis most of the analysis is pure muck no matter who it is .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 11, 2019, 06:17:41 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 11, 2019, 05:23:19 PM
More highlights and less analysis most of the analysis is pure muck no matter who it is .

+1,

I thought the show started off well, straight into the action, i was like, "well finally somebody at RTE is paying attention" , but then Tomas O Se "Bullshitter supreme", goes on about some barman in Caple street texting him, sweet Jesus, ,unfortunatley Ciaran Whelan who is generally excellent ended up ucking it up with him re appearences etc, Then Des starts piping in about his brother Mark,  Tomas O Se is becoming the Healy Rae of the Sunday game. 

If they had dispensed with this, they could have shown more than 10 seconds of Saturdays qualifiers. Then this followed by a discussion on Football in hurling counties, namely Wexford and Tipperary, and the bold Tomas informs up that Wexford are a proud footballing county, and won back to back to back All-Irelands,
yes Tomas they did in 1915, 1916, 1917, and 1918, all very relevant today mind you.

I did not watch the hurling highlights.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 11, 2019, 06:26:05 PM
The coverage of the Saturday Qualifiers was appallingly brief.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2019, 06:30:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2019, 06:26:05 PM
The coverage of the Saturday Qualifiers was appallingly brief.

They were given attention after the hurling on Sunday. Not much attention, but more than that night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 11, 2019, 06:31:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 11, 2019, 06:17:41 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 11, 2019, 05:23:19 PM
More highlights and less analysis most of the analysis is pure muck no matter who it is .

+1,

I thought the show started off well, straight into the action, i was like, "well finally somebody at RTE is paying attention" , but then Tomas O Se "Bullshitter supreme", goes on about some barman in Caple street texting him, sweet Jesus, ,unfortunatley Ciaran Whelan who is generally excellent ended up ucking it up with him re appearences etc, Then Des starts piping in about his brother Mark,  Tomas O Se is becoming the Healy Rae of the Sunday game. 

If they had dispensed with this, they could have shown more than 10 seconds of Saturdays qualifiers. Then this followed by a discussion on Football in hurling counties, namely Wexford and Tipperary, and the bold Tomas informs up that Wexford are a proud footballing county, and won back to back to back All-Irelands,
yes Tomas they did in 1915, 1916, 1917, and 1918, all very relevant today mind you.

I did not watch the hurling highlights.

Yeah Whelan and Tomas were acting the eejit with that shite, but at least they're not like Beavis & Butthead on Match of the Day. Christ they are two wankers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on June 11, 2019, 09:11:20 PM
I liked Tomas O Se going on about how there were no sweepers in Cavan game and a minute later Whelan praising Moynagh for playing that role in front of full back line.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 11, 2019, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?

The Panelists are in a crusty number. It's a well paying and high profile junket. It provides them with the profile to have National paper columns as well. 

I presume that The Sunday Game has sponsors of the program and these sponsors are to be kept happy by not rocking the boat?

Tomas O'Se would see it as below him to use the money excuse. Whelan would never betray his own. Brolly is a strange one. He's usually not one to ignore the obvious, but the blinkers are firmly on here. Maybe they all genuinely don't know the figures and have never heard of Ewan McKenna.

One thing is for sure there is a media blackout on the topic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on June 11, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2019, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?

The Panelists are in a crusty number. It's a well paying and high profile junket. It provides them with the profile to have National paper columns as well. 

I presume that The Sunday Game has sponsors of the program and these sponsors are to be kept happy by not rocking the boat?

Tomas O'Se would see it as below him to use the money excuse. Whelan would never betray his own. Brolly is a strange one. He's usually not one to ignore the obvious, but the blinkers are firmly on here. Maybe they all genuinely don't know the figures and have never heard of Ewan McKenna.

One thing is for sure there is a media blackout on the topic.

How much wouls a panellist on the Sundsy Game be on?

Is it per programme or per season? Are the 'lesser' ones given provincial games while the top gig would be the All Ireland series?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2019, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?
when did this happen?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2019, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?
when did this happen?

They showed the Meath and Dublin matches highlights back to back... then they went to reviewing the games...Des said "we'll come to Meath in a minute"  but then proceeded to only review the Dubs match and they started rambling on about Cluxtons 100th match and comparing his total to O'Se they had a wee highlight reel of Cluxtons matches, Whelean was telling a story about driving him to training, all pointless stuff. But then they went to the break...... and no mention of Meath until after they came back and had showed another wean of match highlights.

Pretty sure Des forgot
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 11, 2019, 11:18:48 PM
Pretty embarrasing comments about Valerie Mulcahy and women in general on this thread. I suppose we should be looking to change the name of our county ground in Sligo - that's probably pointless tokenism as well ya? Some of ye should be ashamed of yourselves.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 11, 2019, 11:28:07 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 11, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2019, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?

The Panelists are in a crusty number. It's a well paying and high profile junket. It provides them with the profile to have National paper columns as well. 

I presume that The Sunday Game has sponsors of the program and these sponsors are to be kept happy by not rocking the boat?

Tomas O'Se would see it as below him to use the money excuse. Whelan would never betray his own. Brolly is a strange one. He's usually not one to ignore the obvious, but the blinkers are firmly on here. Maybe they all genuinely don't know the figures and have never heard of Ewan McKenna.

One thing is for sure there is a media blackout on the topic.

How much wouls a panellist on the Sundsy Game be on?

Is it per programme or per season? Are the 'lesser' ones given provincial games while the top gig would be the All Ireland series?


From what i heard the pundits are all paid per appearances. They all have full time other jobs, so none of them are on permanent contracts. I've seen amounts as low as 1000-1500 euros per show, being mentioned. Getting that kind of money for a days work, may seem like a lot to the likes of you and me. But when you factor in tax and whatnot, its not really a tremendous amount of money, considering that TSG rakes in truckloads of money in advertising revenue. I'd imagine that their big "name" pundits like Tomas O'Se and Henry Sheflin are on a bit more, but I've never seen any official numbers released.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maiden1 on June 12, 2019, 12:25:28 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 11, 2019, 10:14:23 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?
when did this happen?

They showed the Meath and Dublin matches highlights back to back... then they went to reviewing the games...Des said "we'll come to Meath in a minute"  but then proceeded to only review the Dubs match and they started rambling on about Cluxtons 100th match and comparing his total to O'Se they had a wee highlight reel of Cluxtons matches, Whelean was telling a story about driving him to training, all pointless stuff. But then they went to the break...... and no mention of Meath until after they came back and had showed another wean of match highlights.

Pretty sure Des forgot
The same thing happened with the hurling when the Carlow manager said about being allowing to stay in Liam McCarthy he said he would come back to that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on June 12, 2019, 12:27:44 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2019, 11:28:07 PM
Quote from: marty34 on June 11, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 11, 2019, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on June 11, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on June 11, 2019, 06:34:50 PM
When they were blabbering on about Cluxton I thought they actually forgot about the Meath match but they went back to it later

They did, they forgot all about it. Des had to be reminded. They were too busy sucking Dublin's balls like the week before as well. Speaking of balls, why do none of the panellists have the balls to call out the Dublin doping offences?

The Panelists are in a crusty number. It's a well paying and high profile junket. It provides them with the profile to have National paper columns as well. 

I presume that The Sunday Game has sponsors of the program and these sponsors are to be kept happy by not rocking the boat?

Tomas O'Se would see it as below him to use the money excuse. Whelan would never betray his own. Brolly is a strange one. He's usually not one to ignore the obvious, but the blinkers are firmly on here. Maybe they all genuinely don't know the figures and have never heard of Ewan McKenna.

One thing is for sure there is a media blackout on the topic.

How much wouls a panellist on the Sundsy Game be on?

Is it per programme or per season? Are the 'lesser' ones given provincial games while the top gig would be the All Ireland series?


From what i heard the pundits are all paid per appearances. They all have full time other jobs, so none of them are on permanent contracts. I've seen amounts as low as 1000-1500 euros per show, being mentioned. Getting that kind of money for a days work, may seem like a lot to the likes of you and me. But when you factor in tax and whatnot, its not really a tremendous amount of money, considering that TSG rakes in truckloads of money in advertising revenue. I'd imagine that their big "name" pundits like Tomas O'Se and Henry Sheflin are on a bit more, but I've never seen any official numbers released.

True. The reason I asked was that I remember somebody was doing an article about their work and they were there very early in the morning and then on air.  While on air, the pundits were telling the editors to cut this and that piece for The Sunday Game etc.

So as you say, apart from tax etc., there's quite a bit of work that goes into it - long enough hours.

Obviously a few people will say they're well enough looked after and they only talk waffle etc. but there's a fair bit of unseen work in it.

Although, if allowed, we'd all give it a go I'm sure.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on June 16, 2019, 10:11:27 PM
what is the point of showing the two hurling games like they are. everyone knows the results so why try recreate something over 24hs later showimg the table etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 16, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Christ you couldn't listen to that voice too long...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on June 16, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 16, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Christ you couldn't listen to that voice too long...

What voice is that Tubber'? :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 16, 2019, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on June 16, 2019, 10:11:27 PM
what is the point of showing the two hurling games like they are. everyone knows the results so why try recreate something over 24hs later showimg the table etc.
Not everyone has sky
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on June 16, 2019, 10:52:33 PM
you dont need sky to know the results etc. 24hrs later.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 16, 2019, 10:52:49 PM
More weemin on tonight. Soon they'll be hauling off Des at 10.30 and bringing on Joanne Cantwell as sub.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 16, 2019, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 16, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 16, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Christ you couldn't listen to that voice too long...

What voice is that Tubber'? :) :) :)

Safer to say nowt!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on June 16, 2019, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 16, 2019, 10:52:49 PM
More weemin on tonight. Soon they'll be hauling off Des at 10.30 and bringing on Joanne Cantwell as sub.

At least Joanne would seem alert. Des looks like he's been out since the hurling and needs a good kip
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on June 16, 2019, 11:04:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 16, 2019, 10:52:49 PM
More weemin on tonight. Soon they'll be hauling off Des at 10.30 and bringing on Joanne Cantwell as sub.

Houl on. Liz Howard was there at the start of the Sunday Game back in '79.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on June 17, 2019, 07:42:44 AM
Ursula Jacob was simply excellent on SG last night. Her level of analysis, like the other two guys, was outstanding. A brilliant blend. She captured perfectly the pure drama of Wexford Park and the main turning points of the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 17, 2019, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 17, 2019, 07:42:44 AM
Ursula Jacob was simply excellent on SG last night. Her level of analysis, like the other two guys, was outstanding. A brilliant blend. She captured perfectly the pure drama of Wexford Park and the main turning points of the game.

+1.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
Yeah, she def seemed to know her stuff.

Didn't much like her hair though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on June 17, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
Yeah, she def seemed to know her stuff.

Didn't much like her hair though.

Sweet f**k, her hair is the problem now...........

Gotta love poor Joanne Cantwell when giving out about the Clare manager getting sent to the stands in Cusack park;

Joanne: "Clare could do without that Anthony"
Anthony: "that's exactly what they do need"

Joanne being too PC, but then again she has to be. Anto Daly having none of it though!
Proper hurling man.  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 17, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
Yeah, she def seemed to know her stuff.

Didn't much like her hair though.

Sweet f**k, her hair is the problem now...........

Gotta love poor Joanne Cantwell when giving out about the Clare manager getting sent to the stands in Cusack park;

Joanne: "Clare could do without that Anthony"
Anthony: "that's exactly what they do need"

Joanne being too PC, but then again she has to be. Anto Daly having none of it though!
Proper hurling man.  ;)

::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on June 17, 2019, 12:35:17 PM
all these lady analysts on the gaa male games is pure pc tokenism. no issue with a ladies only panel for camogie or ladies football.  the only entertainment to be had from it may be some future evening if joe brolly and pat spillane are arguing a topic and you have the token lady in the middle treated as invisible.

as for Jacobs, horrendous accent, mute button instantly.  the best of a poor bunch is the other lady from Wexford, Darcy, but she seems to have disappeared from the screens.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2019, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 17, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
Yeah, she def seemed to know her stuff.

Didn't much like her hair though.

Sweet f**k, her hair is the problem now...........

Gotta love poor Joanne Cantwell when giving out about the Clare manager getting sent to the stands in Cusack park;

Joanne: "Clare could do without that Anthony"
Anthony: "that's exactly what they do need"

Joanne being too PC, but then again she has to be. Anto Daly having none of it though!
Proper hurling man.  ;)

::)
Hair didn't get in the way of the hurling pundits at Semple Stadium yesterday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 17, 2019, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on June 17, 2019, 12:35:17 PM
all these lady analysts on the gaa male games is pure pc tokenism. no issue with a ladies only panel for camogie or ladies football.  the only entertainment to be had from it may be some future evening if joe brolly and pat spillane are arguing a topic and you have the token lady in the middle treated as invisible.

as for Jacobs, horrendous accent, mute button instantly.  the best of a poor bunch is the other lady from Wexford, Darcy, but she seems to have disappeared from the screens.

So it's ok for analysts to be rubbish as long as they have a penis. Ya, that makes sense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
The women and members of the BLT community have been represented in recent weeks. Gingers have been covered (Shefflin), bald (Cyril Farrell), northerner (Cavanagh), specy/mouthy/northerner (Brolly), Dub (whelan). What other group have they missed?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 17, 2019, 02:30:45 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 17, 2019, 02:28:24 PM
The women and members of the BLT community have been represented in recent weeks. Gingers have been covered (Shefflin), bald (Cyril Farrell), northerner (Cavanagh), specy/mouthy/northerner (Brolly), Dub (whelan). What other group have they missed?

There is hardly any pundit from Kerry?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2019, 02:41:38 PM
Personally I find Ursula Jacobs hard to listen to. She has a voice that would strip paint off walls. Unfortunately that is a factor when you're communicating in the media. The content might be good but if it's delivered like that then people will mentally switch off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on June 17, 2019, 02:44:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 17, 2019, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 17, 2019, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 17, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
Yeah, she def seemed to know her stuff.

Didn't much like her hair though.

Sweet f**k, her hair is the problem now...........

Gotta love poor Joanne Cantwell when giving out about the Clare manager getting sent to the stands in Cusack park;

Joanne: "Clare could do without that Anthony"
Anthony: "that's exactly what they do need"

Joanne being too PC, but then again she has to be. Anto Daly having none of it though!
Proper hurling man.  ;)

::)
Hair didn't get in the way of the hurling pundits at Semple Stadium yesterday.

Grass doesn't grow on a busy road.

Think they were sent to the wilds of Connacht (Salthill) for their crimes on Sunday.

RTE must have only the one outside broadcast portacabin/studio thing it seems.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: LilySavage on June 17, 2019, 03:25:46 PM
Whatever about the analysts, the Highlights packages are abysmal. They are essentially the briefest of reviews for all but the games which were shown earlier. Wait till you see 8 qualifiers next week squeezed into a 10 minute slot. Result announced as soon as the commentator begins 'reviewing'. At least 3 of these  games, not shown during that day, should get afforded a minimum of 5-7 mins each. Team lineups shown beforehand and best scores and major incidents included. They used to do this 10+ years ago where you could actually get a sense of a game that took place that day. Hardly rocket science.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on June 17, 2019, 06:38:15 PM
Ridiculous and very hurtful comments about analysts here. To be honest, I only heard what Ursula Jacobs had to say. I didn't check out her hair, although if she hadn't it coiffed to the last degree, she would have got it here too. I found her to be brilliant. Really knows her stuff. Has a genuine pedigree in that she's an All Ireland winner and was not there for some stupid gender quota reason. SOme of the comments on this board just highlight how much women are second class citizens in this country.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2019, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Seany on June 17, 2019, 06:38:15 PM
Ridiculous and very hurtful comments about analysts here. To be honest, I only heard what Ursula Jacobs had to say. I didn't check out her hair, although if she hadn't it coiffed to the last degree, she would have got it here too. I found her to be brilliant. Really knows her stuff. Has a genuine pedigree in that she's an All Ireland winner and was not there for some stupid gender quota reason. SOme of the comments on this board just highlight how much women are second class citizens in this country.

Maybe, but this was hurling. She's a camogie player.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Beffs on June 17, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2019, 02:41:38 PM
Personally I find Ursula Jacobs hard to listen to. She has a voice that would strip paint off walls. Unfortunately that is a factor when you're communicating in the media. The content might be good but if it's delivered like that then people will mentally switch off.

Agreed. She was harsh to listen to alright.

No problem with the female pundits meself. Some are good, some are bad, some are meh. Just like their male counterparts. They seem to be held to a much higher standard than the lads are though. Wonder why that is, coz God knows, the majority of the male pundits are fookin' dire. Seems a bit unfair.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2019, 08:32:47 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 17, 2019, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Seany on June 17, 2019, 06:38:15 PM
Ridiculous and very hurtful comments about analysts here. To be honest, I only heard what Ursula Jacobs had to say. I didn't check out her hair, although if she hadn't it coiffed to the last degree, she would have got it here too. I found her to be brilliant. Really knows her stuff. Has a genuine pedigree in that she's an All Ireland winner and was not there for some stupid gender quota reason. SOme of the comments on this board just highlight how much women are second class citizens in this country.

Maybe, but this was hurling. She's a camogie player.
Brian O'Driscoll wouldn't be on talking about rugby league.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: MayoBuck on June 17, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
I thought Rory Gallagher was really good on the live show. They should have him on more regularly and hopefully he'll stop managing intercounty teams!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2019, 09:06:50 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on June 17, 2019, 09:04:35 PM
I thought Rory Gallagher was really good on the live show. They should have him on more regularly and hopefully he'll stop managing intercounty teams!

I was thinking that. Would be a win win  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2019, 10:02:07 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 17, 2019, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Seany on June 17, 2019, 06:38:15 PM
Ridiculous and very hurtful comments about analysts here. To be honest, I only heard what Ursula Jacobs had to say. I didn't check out her hair, although if she hadn't it coiffed to the last degree, she would have got it here too. I found her to be brilliant. Really knows her stuff. Has a genuine pedigree in that she's an All Ireland winner and was not there for some stupid gender quota reason. SOme of the comments on this board just highlight how much women are second class citizens in this country.

Maybe, but this was hurling. She's a camogie player.
Camogie is just another name for hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on June 17, 2019, 10:05:21 PM
This thread is getting embarrassing.

Her f**king accent is an issue now!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 18, 2019, 12:20:31 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 17, 2019, 10:05:21 PM
This thread is getting embarrassing.

Her f**king accent is an issue now!

Exactly, plenty of shite "analysts" without criticising some for their hair/accent/gender
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2019, 04:13:04 AM
https://youtu.be/ADftSRp3MU8
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2019, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 18, 2019, 12:20:31 AM
Quote from: J70 on June 17, 2019, 10:05:21 PM
This thread is getting embarrassing.

Her f**king accent is an issue now!

Exactly, plenty of shite "analysts" without criticising some for their hair/accent/gender

You would find better football analysis in the pub.

I find with the soccer on BBC for example that the women tend to know more as they have had to work a lot harder to get there. You have the likes of Robbie Savage who once played the game in the premier league and was deemed a "character" so they stick him on and  he's an absolute balloon. I would say he's comparable to Spillane.

The hurling has a much better standard of analysis though Donal Og is turning into an awful "needs a review" kind of man.

The women coming into the punditry is a good thing. There are too many "I played once" people coming in who are no good and Brolly has turned it a bit into a controversial role as opposed to actually intelligently dissecting the game. I am hoping bringing more women into it brings better analysis. Brolly isn't great and I wouldn't rate O"Se or Whelan too highly either so IMO they can only be better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on June 18, 2019, 09:38:45 AM
I rate Whelan one of the better football pundits. Oisin McConville is very good on BBC as well.

Given the choice, I prefer BBC over RTE every day of the week (Well, Saturdays and Sundays at least, because they tend to be only on those days).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on June 18, 2019, 09:46:48 AM
The comment about her hair was a joke ffs.

Some of you c@@@s are real busy looking to take offence on someone else's behalf for f**k all reason. Get a life you losers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 18, 2019, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 17, 2019, 07:51:04 PM
Quote from: Seany on June 17, 2019, 06:38:15 PM
Ridiculous and very hurtful comments about analysts here. To be honest, I only heard what Ursula Jacobs had to say. I didn't check out her hair, although if she hadn't it coiffed to the last degree, she would have got it here too. I found her to be brilliant. Really knows her stuff. Has a genuine pedigree in that she's an All Ireland winner and was not there for some stupid gender quota reason. SOme of the comments on this board just highlight how much women are second class citizens in this country.

Maybe, but this was hurling. She's a camogie player.
Funny how Cahill didn't ask either Brennan or Cusack for their thoughts on the camogie games that were shown.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: easytiger95 on June 18, 2019, 12:03:03 PM
Only was flicking through channels when I came across 2 mins of Jacob's analysis, of Shane O'Donnell's goal for Clare at the start of the Cork game. In that 2 mins she highlighted O'Donnells good running into channels, how the other Clare forward dragged the Cork full back out of position with another good run, leaving space for O'Donnell to attack, and how O'Donnell's marker was carrying his hurl in the wrong hand, allowing O'Donnell turn and beat him on the outside.

This is the only piece of technical analysis that has stayed with me from a Sunday Game in 35 years watching it (including a couple of years working on it).

She is a brilliant analyst. Gender doesn't come into it.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on June 18, 2019, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on June 18, 2019, 12:03:03 PM
Only was flicking through channels when I came across 2 mins of Jacob's analysis, of Shane O'Donnell's goal for Clare at the start of the Cork game. In that 2 mins she highlighted O'Donnells good running into channels, how the other Clare forward dragged the Cork full back out of position with another good run, leaving space for O'Donnell to attack, and how O'Donnell's marker was carrying his hurl in the wrong hand, allowing O'Donnell turn and beat him on the outside.

This is the only piece of technical analysis that has stayed with me from a Sunday Game in 35 years watching it (including a couple of years working on it).

She is a brilliant analyst. Gender doesn't come into it.

You're right but unfortunately, time and time again, we see attitudes to women on this board that are simply toxic. I had hoped we'd moved on to a greater degree but clearly not. It's pathetic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on June 19, 2019, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 18, 2019, 09:46:48 AM
The comment about her hair was a joke ffs.

Some of you c@@@s are real busy looking to take offence on someone else's behalf for f**k all reason. Get a life you losers.

Dont worry .....keyser I got it
The eye roll still didn't stop the stampede of sanctimony.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on June 23, 2019, 09:56:33 PM
At least they've shown some qualifier games early on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on June 23, 2019, 10:08:25 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 23, 2019, 09:56:33 PM
At least they've shown some qualifier games early on.

Ah shite, thought they'd be on later. Was the mayo game shown?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: maigheo on June 23, 2019, 10:28:26 PM
Mayo game just finished
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 23, 2019, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: clarshack on June 23, 2019, 09:38:56 PM
Usual story I suppose that all the games we've already seen gets shown again and all the qualifier games get about 5 minutes.

To be fair most people don't watch the games in real time anymore. So they depend on a quick fix highlights show. Watching the game in real time is a waste of time in the current climate bar one or two games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 07, 2019, 10:10:32 PM
Malachy O Rourke a panelist. Will be interesting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on July 07, 2019, 10:32:00 PM
Sunday Game competition should be open to Northern viewers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sambostar on July 07, 2019, 11:51:41 PM
Des asks MOR re Monaghan losing 1st game of Super8's last year. "No Des, we won it". Then Des mumbles something about it must have been 2 years ago. Even though there was no Super8 2 years ago. He is so amateurish
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 08, 2019, 12:07:17 AM
You can see why MOR is a top manager.... Some great analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 08, 2019, 12:29:32 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 07, 2019, 10:32:00 PM
Sunday Game competition should be open to Northern viewers.

Ah they can shove their hotel break up their hole.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 08, 2019, 10:09:30 AM
Whats the easiest way of accessing the RTE player in the north?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 08, 2019, 10:11:24 AM
Quote from: sambostar on July 07, 2019, 11:51:41 PM
Des asks MOR re Monaghan losing 1st game of Super8's last year. "No Des, we won it". Then Des mumbles something about it must have been 2 years ago. Even though there was no Super8 2 years ago. He is so amateurish

It was cringe. Wouldn't happen on sky eh...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 08, 2019, 10:12:10 AM
Not arsed doing a new thread but this kinda fits in with the Sunday Game one...
There is massive cost to putting live TV in play, but I don't understand how come there is no deal for online channels with RTE...
TG4 had the minor games on and if you look at Camogie Association and LGFA, who hardly are swimming in coin, they seem to do lots of FB Live and YouTube broadcasts.

I know the GAA call a lot of what can be put on, but even going forward could the counties who have decent online elements eg Meath GAA TV not be allowed to broadcast games and sell ads on their own games?
If they got a decent crew in, they in turn sell it on to RTE for highlights...

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on July 08, 2019, 02:06:06 PM
QuoteI know the GAA call a lot of what can be put on, but even going forward could the counties who have decent online elements eg Meath GAA TV not be allowed to broadcast games and sell ads on their own games?
If they got a decent crew in, they in turn sell it on to RTE for highlights...

That would probably sabotage the GAAGO thing that RTE somewhat devised and is a big enough earner for them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 08, 2019, 02:23:08 PM
Geo-block it for just the Island of Ireland.
GAA Go only works if you are abroad anyway. To be honest eventually they will go down that route of having their own channel with an annual fee.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 08, 2019, 02:51:07 PM
The competition was only available to the 26 counties >:(
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2019, 03:22:17 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 07, 2019, 10:32:00 PM
Sunday Game competition should be open to Northern viewers.
It wasn't part of the GFA apparently
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 14, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Great analysis again on the Sunday game. I'm sure everyone is much more enlightened on Tyrone's tactics after that diagram by Thomas O'Se. Also "over emotion" was the reason Roscommon lost. Something for them to work on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on July 14, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 14, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Great analysis again on the Sunday game. I'm sure everyone is much more enlightened on Tyrone's tactics after that diagram by Thomas O'Se. Also "over emotion" was the reason Roscommon lost. Something for them to work on.

I laughed at Brolly adding up the potential chances and scores that could have won Roscommon the game yet he didn't factor in the same chances that Tyrone had. Tube.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on July 14, 2019, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 14, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 14, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Great analysis again on the Sunday game. I'm sure everyone is much more enlightened on Tyrone's tactics after that diagram by Thomas O'Se. Also "over emotion" was the reason Roscommon lost. Something for them to work on.

I laughed at Brolly adding up the potential chances and scores that could have won Roscommon the game yet he didn't factor in the same chances that Tyrone had. Tube.

Exactly. We had plenty of missed chances too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on July 14, 2019, 11:08:15 PM
No mention of Coldricks performance against Tyrone but sure what do you expect.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ed Ricketts on July 14, 2019, 11:09:35 PM
It was brutal. Brolly in particular is getting worse. Impossible for anyone on that show to attempt to dissect anything coherently with his persistent need to waffle vaguely about whatever shite happens to come into his head.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: weareros on July 14, 2019, 11:09:41 PM
In fairness the diagram by TOS was a total windup. Might as well have had John Cleese showing the chart. There's a few Red Hand lads that will take the bait. Ease up lads. Ye won and will likely meet Kerry in semi.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Angelo on July 14, 2019, 11:19:29 PM
Brolly clearly didn't even watch the game live.

He said Tyrone struggled for scores in the first half, I thought we got our scores really easily, you look at the scores Sludden, Kennedy and Burns got in the first half, they were all easy scores from swift, brisk moves. He said we got five scores from frees in the first half which kept us in the game - we got five in the whole game from frees, I think 2 of them might have been frees in the first half. Sludden's three points, Burns and Kennedy all came in the first half.

Roscommon did well in the first half, they were very patient and didn't do what Tyrone were looking for them to do and run into blind alleys. They had the lion's share of the ball but they were having to work very hard for their scores and they expended a lot of energy in doing so, Tyrone in contrast would generally get the ball, go up the field and score fairly swiftly. I think as the game wore on Roscommon tired and Tyrone took over. And that doesn't mention the impact Coldrick was having that was keeping Roscommon within striking distance for large portions.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GJL on July 14, 2019, 11:26:54 PM
Sky are light years ahead of RTE in how they analyse the game. The sky presenters now with the excellent addition of Kieran Donaghy make the RTE crew look like a bunch of idiots.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 14, 2019, 11:39:25 PM
I wish they'd take that ignoramus Brolly off that show.

Constantly cutting in and disrupting TOS's flow of speech. The bollix never got enough backs of the hand upside the jaw as a youngster.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 14, 2019, 11:43:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 14, 2019, 11:39:25 PM
I wish they'd take that ignoramus Brolly off that show.

Constantly cutting in and disrupting TOS's flow of speech. The bollix never got enough backs of the hand upside the jaw as a youngster.

Not watching, but easy to imagine.
"Hold on, Hold on a minute".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on July 14, 2019, 11:47:35 PM
Quote from: clarshack on July 14, 2019, 11:08:15 PM
No mention of Coldricks performance against Tyrone but sure what do you expect.

Maybe because his performance was much more balanced than you can give him credit for. I am no fan of Coldrick and had Tyrone backed to win but I never got the impression he was against Tyrone. One of his better performances.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 14, 2019, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 14, 2019, 11:43:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 14, 2019, 11:39:25 PM
I wish they'd take that ignoramus Brolly off that show.

Constantly cutting in and disrupting TOS's flow of speech. The bollix never got enough backs of the hand upside the jaw as a youngster.

Not watching, but easy to imagine.
"Hold on, Hold on a minute".

Nah just cutting in. You can see TOS is trying to get his point across while having to keep focused while he chirps in. Nothing as bad as being put off like that, especially for a pundit as that's what they're paid for. Ignorant bollix
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inroundthesquare on July 15, 2019, 12:11:47 AM
Brolly tries to portray himself as the Ultimate Gael and he has been found out. Complaining and making up lies about having to pay a fiver for parking at Clones when making a fortune talking absolute brown on RTE like tonight. Rude and ignorant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 15, 2019, 12:20:26 AM
Funniest part of the show was Tomás Ó Sé trying to talk down that Kerry result and performance. According to him we'll have to wait for the Donegal game before we are sure of where Kerry stand and then Joe Brolly talking up Donegal even though they were less than convincing for three quarters of that game v Meath.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: red hander on July 15, 2019, 03:10:23 AM
Quote from: clarshack on July 14, 2019, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 14, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 14, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Great analysis again on the Sunday game. I'm sure everyone is much more enlightened on Tyrone's tactics after that diagram by Thomas O'Se. Also "over emotion" was the reason Roscommon lost. Something for them to work on.

I laughed at Brolly adding up the potential chances and scores that could have won Roscommon the game yet he didn't factor in the same chances that Tyrone had. Tube.

Exactly. We had plenty of missed chances too.

Yep, was thinking that myself, what a balloon. The Dungiven chimp's hate for Tyrone is almost visceral. It can't be good for the poor fella's mental health, knowing his beloved county have sunk so low that they will never again compete with their more illustrious neighbours.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 15, 2019, 07:50:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 14, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 14, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Great analysis again on the Sunday game. I'm sure everyone is much more enlightened on Tyrone's tactics after that diagram by Thomas O'Se. Also "over emotion" was the reason Roscommon lost. Something for them to work on.

I laughed at Brolly adding up the potential chances and scores that could have won Roscommon the game yet he didn't factor in the same chances that Tyrone had. Tube.

Peter Harte hit the underside of the bar, mcshane nearly nutmegged the keeper...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2019, 12:50:51 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 15, 2019, 07:50:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 14, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 14, 2019, 10:57:30 PM
Great analysis again on the Sunday game. I'm sure everyone is much more enlightened on Tyrone's tactics after that diagram by Thomas O'Se. Also "over emotion" was the reason Roscommon lost. Something for them to work on.

I laughed at Brolly adding up the potential chances and scores that could have won Roscommon the game yet he didn't factor in the same chances that Tyrone had. Tube.

Peter Harte hit the underside of the bar, mcshane nearly nutmegged the keeper...

Would have been an awful gift of a goal. Total mix up between keeper and full back and Tyrone still got a point from that passage of play.

Roscommon needed to take their chances to bring that game to wire but both sides missed chances hence the 4 point margin was about right.

Brolly needs to stop calling Kerry (Curry) and Tomas Ó sé calling Meath (meet)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thebuzz on July 15, 2019, 01:11:02 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 15, 2019, 12:20:26 AM
Funniest part of the show was Tomás Ó Sé trying to talk down that Kerry result and performance. According to him we'll have to wait for the Donegal game before we are sure of where Kerry stand and then Joe Brolly talking up Donegal even though they were less than convincing for three quarters of that game v Meath.

Never saw it but he's the opposite of Spillane then. He was totally fawning over Kerry and bigging them up for greatness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 16, 2019, 12:07:58 AM
Just watching the rest of TSG earlier. TOS talks about Donegal v Meath, Brolly butts in. TOS tries to finish his point and Brolly keeps rabbiting on. TOS then makes a face, and raises the eyebrows, more or less to say, how the hell can I get talking with this bollix here?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 16, 2019, 04:28:27 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 16, 2019, 12:07:58 AM
Just watching the rest of TSG earlier. TOS talks about Donegal v Meath, Brolly butts in. TOS tries to finish his point and Brolly keeps rabbiting on. TOS then makes a face, and raises the eyebrows, more or less to say, how the hell can I get talking with this bollix here?

Impossible to watch when the two of them keep talking at the same time.
Des is no addition - doesn't have the ability to control the show.
At one stage all three of them were talking at the same time
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 16, 2019, 05:03:51 AM
ToS is a reasonable pundit comes across as genuine enuff apart from when talking about Kerry. After the Munster final he had the whole country convinced  Kerry were useless.

Brolly continues to out do himself. Score counting was hilarious not to mention how Donegal are offensive maestros now and Tyrone just park the bus  ::)

Then there was the bit were he tried to call out ToS for saying Tyrone had lost their nerve.. when the only person had that was himself (in the middle of the Donegal Meath analysis no less ;D)...shows the level of narcissism hes at that only hears himself.

Hilarious stuff altogether
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 16, 2019, 07:51:55 AM
Des comes across as s really nice man but he's not fit to control a panel the way Joanne is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 16, 2019, 08:59:22 AM
It's clear enough now that Cantwell and spillane have refused to work with brolly and looks like it won't be long until TOS decides likewise. You couldn't blame them. He really is a cretin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
Watched the Kerry Mayo game yesterday for my sins and I thought Oisin McConville was excellent doing co-commentary. Time to put Dessie Dolan out to pasture and let McConville in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 16, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 16, 2019, 05:03:51 AM
ToS is a reasonable pundit comes across as genuine enuff apart from when talking about Kerry. After the Munster final he had the whole country convinced  Kerry were useless.

Brolly continues to out do himself. Score counting was hilarious not to mention how Donegal are offensive maestros now and Tyrone just park the bus  ::)

Then there was the bit were he tried to call out ToS for saying Tyrone had lost their nerve.. when the only person had that was himself (in the middle of the Donegal Meath analysis no less ;D)...shows the level of narcissism hes at that only hears himself.

Hilarious stuff altogether

Whether TOS or anyone, is a good or bad pundit, he should be allowed to speak and  get his point across without that bollix constantly cutting in and disrupting his flow and concentration.

When I see Brolly on TSG, or Ger Canning on commentary, I have the same reaction, "Ah, for fucks sake!"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on July 16, 2019, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
Watched the Kerry Mayo game yesterday for my sins and I thought Oisin McConville was excellent doing co-commentary. Time to put Dessie Dolan out to pasture and let McConville in.

Serotonin levels were way to low to watch a repeat, but I fully agree with you, Oisin McConville is a breadth of fresh air, would like to hear more of him.

The folks I truly dislike and can ruin a good game are,

Marty, (Ridiculous and stupid monologue at the throw-in followed by usual geography lessons)
Dessie, adds absolutely nothing, how the hell did he get that job.

Rest I can tolerate,

Dream team is Darragh Moloney and Kevin McStay.
Both really good at their respectful roles.


While I am on the matter of BS, Senan must have a PHD in it.
Lets go to the sideline for an update from Senan .
"Well the X manager is really giving an earful to the fourth official as he doesnt think his team are getting enough frees."
Ok really insightful. I could go on, to other outbursts of verbal diarrhea, but have to get back to work.

Other than him, Sky is excellent.

Rest I can tolerate,

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 16, 2019, 01:30:57 PM
Once you adapt to his nasally tones, Oisin is by some distance the best pundit in the game. He does his research, has an appreciation for all forms of tactics, seemingly knows every player in the country, and is willing to call a spade a spade without being nasty or parochial.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 16, 2019, 01:44:25 PM
Oisin McConville and Marry Clarke were consistently excellent on the BBC coverage. Mark Sidebottom is also a far better presenter than commentator.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: kerryforsam19 on July 16, 2019, 02:04:48 PM
Quote from: joemamas on July 16, 2019, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
Watched the Kerry Mayo game yesterday for my sins and I thought Oisin McConville was excellent doing co-commentary. Time to put Dessie Dolan out to pasture and let McConville in.

Serotonin levels were way to low to watch a repeat, but I fully agree with you, Oisin McConville is a breadth of fresh air, would like to hear more of him.

The folks I truly dislike and can ruin a good game are,

Marty, (Ridiculous and stupid monologue at the throw-in followed by usual geography lessons)
Dessie, adds absolutely nothing, how the hell did he get that job.

Rest I can tolerate,

Dream team is Darragh Moloney and Kevin McStay.
Both really good at their respectful roles.


While I am on the matter of BS, Senan must have a PHD in it.
Lets go to the sideline for an update from Senan .
"Well the X manager is really giving an earful to the fourth official as he doesnt think his team are getting enough frees."
Ok really insightful. I could go on, to other outbursts of verbal diarrhea, but have to get back to work.

Other than him, Sky is excellent.

Rest I can tolerate,

McStay is good but prefer Martin McHugh, like Oisin Mcconville knows modern tactics. Dessie Dolan is a disaster
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 16, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 16, 2019, 01:44:25 PM
Oisin McConville and Marry Clarke were consistently excellent on the BBC coverage. Mark Sidebottom is also a far better presenter than commentator.

Especially when he does things like fist-bumping the two pundits  ;D

A bit unorthodox is aul Sidey, but he's a decent scud. The show wouldn't be the same if he wasn't there. He bounces well off Oisin and Marty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: southtyronegael on July 16, 2019, 02:36:07 PM
Had the dodgy box goin for last weekend football. Watched all games and sky totally wiped the floor with rte as far as coverage goes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 17, 2019, 02:33:20 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 16, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 16, 2019, 01:44:25 PM
Oisin McConville and Marry Clarke were consistently excellent on the BBC coverage. Mark Sidebottom is also a far better presenter than commentator.

Especially when he does things like fist-bumping the two pundits  ;D

A bit unorthodox is aul Sidey, but he's a decent scud. The show wouldn't be the same if he wasn't there. He bounces well off Oisin and Marty.
Those trio are the deal, BBCNI trumps all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 18, 2019, 03:42:32 PM
If the game happened to be on all three channels I'd probably go Sky (providing Clerkin isn't on co-comm), then BBC and then I'd probably listen on the radio before watching RTE (slight sarcasm).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 18, 2019, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Jayop on July 18, 2019, 03:42:32 PM
If the game happened to be on all three channels I'd probably go Sky (providing Clerkin isn't on co-comm), then BBC and then I'd probably listen on the radio before watching RTE (slight sarcasm).

Don't have Sky, so first choice is BBC. Far better pundits, analysis and no bitching or someone talking bollix or trying to steal the show.

RTE only if not on BBC. If it's Ger Canning on commentary, I mute it, and put on radio commentary. If that's not available, I watch it on mute. I would rarely watch RTE half time analysis, too many egos and bullshit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on July 18, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
Losing faith with RTE myself, Brolly becoming very hard to listen to. Dick Clerkin is awful on Sky and the Senan Connell role always seems a bit superfluous to me, he must be there for eye candy for the ladies or something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 18, 2019, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 18, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
Losing faith with RTE myself, Brolly becoming very hard to listen to. Dick Clerkin is awful on Sky and the Senan Connell role always seems a bit superfluous to me, he must be there for eye candy for the ladies or something.

Brolly is impossible to listen to. RTE need a big clearout.

Yeah, Senan Connell, could never figure that one out myself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on July 18, 2019, 07:48:38 PM
They'll keep Brolly sure o'Rourke keeps coming for the last 20 years and they cant tell him to go away....reminds me of Milton in Office Space
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: westbound on July 19, 2019, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 18, 2019, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 18, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
Losing faith with RTE myself, Brolly becoming very hard to listen to. Dick Clerkin is awful on Sky and the Senan Connell role always seems a bit superfluous to me, he must be there for eye candy for the ladies or something.

Brolly is impossible to listen to. RTE need a big clearout.

Yeah, Senan Connell, could never figure that one out myself.

Senan Connell spent much of the pre-match from Hyde park last week telling us that the 45metre line in the hyde was nearer the goal than  the 45 in croke park! ::)

Maybe the groundman in croke park has bigger steps!  :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thejuice on July 21, 2019, 02:04:19 PM
So Colm how can Meath win today.

Colm O'Rourke all in the same sentence: "Keeper needs to just kick it out long and let the lads fight for it" and "we don't have any high fielders midfield"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 21, 2019, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: thejuice on July 21, 2019, 02:04:19 PM
So Colm how can Meath win today.

Colm O'Rourke all in the same sentence: "Keeper needs to just kick it out long and let the lads fight for it" and "we don't have any high fielders midfield"

I enjoyed the look on McManus's face when the two dinosaurs said goalkeepers just need to kick the ball out and not bother with short kickouts. He glanced at them as if they'd just suggested Neil Armstrong had never been to the moon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 03:03:26 PM
Difference between McConville and Dolan on co-commentary is night and day.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 03:03:26 PM
Difference between McConville and Dolan on co-commentary is night and day.

Yes, pity he has Marty beside him!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 03:43:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 03:03:26 PM
Difference between McConville and Dolan on co-commentary is night and day.

Yes, pity he has Marty beside him!

We can't have it all unfortunately. Marty just talks too much.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 21, 2019, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: westbound on July 19, 2019, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 18, 2019, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 18, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
Losing faith with RTE myself, Brolly becoming very hard to listen to. Dick Clerkin is awful on Sky and the Senan Connell role always seems a bit superfluous to me, he must be there for eye candy for the ladies or something.

Brolly is impossible to listen to. RTE need a big clearout.

Yeah, Senan Connell, could never figure that one out myself.

Senan Connell spent much of the pre-match from Hyde park last week telling us that the 45metre line in the hyde was nearer the goal than  the 45 in croke park! ::)

Maybe the groundman in croke park has bigger steps!  :P
You may think that about Senan, but that's actually one of his smarter comments, that's why he kept repeating it. Senan acts out the stage Dub role with an insane joviality. 
Someone in Sky loves him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
I don't know if it's psychological or not but i genuinely feel like I get more stupid the longer I listen to Dessie Dolan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on July 21, 2019, 05:33:49 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 21, 2019, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: westbound on July 19, 2019, 08:11:34 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 18, 2019, 06:01:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 18, 2019, 05:49:10 PM
Losing faith with RTE myself, Brolly becoming very hard to listen to. Dick Clerkin is awful on Sky and the Senan Connell role always seems a bit superfluous to me, he must be there for eye candy for the ladies or something.

Brolly is impossible to listen to. RTE need a big clearout.

Yeah, Senan Connell, could never figure that one out myself.

Senan Connell spent much of the pre-match from Hyde park last week telling us that the 45metre line in the hyde was nearer the goal than  the 45 in croke park! ::)

Maybe the groundman in croke park has bigger steps!  :P
You may think that about Senan, but that's actually one of his smarter comments, that's why he kept repeating it. Senan acts out the stage Dub role with an insane joviality. 
Someone in Sky loves him.
Think I recall that the guy who became producer of Sky's GAA coverage was the same guy who did it for TV3, and Connell was on that too. That may be something to do with it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on July 21, 2019, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
I don't know if it's psychological or not but i genuinely feel like I get more stupid the longer I listen to Dessie Dolan.
You have been listening to Dessie way too long.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 21, 2019, 06:04:01 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 03:43:04 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 03:03:26 PM
Difference between McConville and Dolan on co-commentary is night and day.

Yes, pity he has Marty beside him!

We can't have it all unfortunately. Marty just talks too much.

They all talk too much. Even the good ones. There should be an option for no commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 21, 2019, 06:04:41 PM
I don't get the hate for dolan, I hate canning more. Donegal won a free on the wide right and he says "Murphy will have a chance to add to his score". Then he said it's "smart play" allowing McBearty to hit it. Aye f**king genius letting your left footed free taker hit a left footed free.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 06:06:09 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 21, 2019, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
I don't know if it's psychological or not but i genuinely feel like I get more stupid the longer I listen to Dessie Dolan.
You have been listening to Dessie way too long.

Touché 😂
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 21, 2019, 06:16:46 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 21, 2019, 06:04:41 PM
I don't get the hate for dolan, I hate canning more. Donegal won a free on the wide right and he says "Murphy will have a chance to add to his score". Then he said it's "smart play" allowing McBearty to hit it. Aye f**king genius letting your left footed free taker hit a left footed free.

I had Radio 6 counties on instead while watching the TV, even though the radio was about 5 seconds ahead.

Later, I switched to RTE News Now and watched on SD and the Irish language commentary. Hadn't a baldy of most that was being said, and poorer quality, but it's better than listening to Ger Canning!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 06:32:10 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 21, 2019, 06:04:41 PM
I don't get the hate for dolan, I hate canning more. Donegal won a free on the wide right and he says "Murphy will have a chance to add to his score". Then he said it's "smart play" allowing McBearty to hit it. Aye f**king genius letting your left footed free taker hit a left footed free.

Nobody hates Dolan. Just his co-commentary is terrible.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 21, 2019, 08:58:58 PM
Canning and Dolan is a woeful combination. You wonder if those RTÉ producers can't hear what we hear or why they continue to get gigs, Dessie seems like a decent skin but he is not a very good co commentator. Oisin is excellent if it wasn't for his monotone voice he would probably be considered the best there is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 21, 2019, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2019, 06:20:06 PM
For someone who was among the best footballers in Ireland in his day, Dolan appears not to have the first clue about what is going on in any game of football. It's not just that his analysis is mundane or predictable (it mostly is) but he is so often completely inaccurate. I find it very odd.

Yup - his understanding of the game is woeful - going by what he says as co-commentator you'd swear blind he never kicked a ball. Odd is the exact word for it.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 21, 2019, 09:27:08 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 21, 2019, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on July 21, 2019, 06:20:06 PM
For someone who was among the best footballers in Ireland in his day, Dolan appears not to have the first clue about what is going on in any game of football. It's not just that his analysis is mundane or predictable (it mostly is) but he is so often completely inaccurate. I find it very odd.

Yup - his understanding of the game is woeful - going by what he says as co-commentator you'd swear blind he never kicked a ball. Odd is the exact word for it.

He'll be disappointed with that one Ger.

Also loves the experience line. A young player misses and he says he shows his inexperience. An older player misses and he says he should have used his experience whatever the hell that means.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 10:48:51 PM
Plámás O'Se does his item on players taking too many steps with the ball. He proceeds to single out Mayo and Donegal players. No Kerry players are singled out! He proceeds to say he is not picking on individual teams.....Right! He could have waited for the Dublin game. Con O'Callaghan and Kilkenny are masters of taking steps!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 21, 2019, 10:55:07 PM
Hmmm, two Kerry men analysing the Kerry Donegal game, and no Donegal men there.

Reminded me of the time when there was a studio full of unionists on Nolan while debating the fleg protests.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:13:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 21, 2019, 10:55:07 PM
Hmmm, two Kerry men analysing the Kerry Donegal game, and no Donegal men there.

Reminded me of the time when there was a studio full of unionists on Nolan while debating the fleg protests.

And the other two are Dubs!

Classic stuff!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:22:01 PM
Camogie highlights in the middle of the show as well! WTF
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on July 21, 2019, 11:32:05 PM
Tbf, boland got away with an awful load of steps. There was a meath player who got away with a nice few shortly after that as well
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:34:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 21, 2019, 11:32:05 PM
Tbf, boland got away with an awful load of steps. There was a meath player who got away with a nice few shortly after that as well

I have no issue with that! Just give a spread of examples!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 21, 2019, 11:35:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 10:48:51 PM
Plámás O'Se does his item on players taking too many steps with the ball. He proceeds to single out Mayo and Donegal players. No Kerry players are singled out! He proceeds to say he is not picking on individual teams.....Right! He could have waited for the Dublin game. Con O'Callaghan and Kilkenny are masters of taking steps!

Erm...... Stephen O Brien
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 21, 2019, 11:51:43 PM
The Dubs fans had to wait for the camogie slot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 21, 2019, 11:56:33 PM
According to Des Cahill we all can't wait for that Tyrone v Dublin game in Omagh. Has nobody told him its a dead rubber contest?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2019, 12:00:11 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 21, 2019, 11:56:33 PM
According to Des Cahill we all can't wait for that Tyrone v Dublin game in Omagh. Has nobody told him its a dead rubber contest?

Des is on the same script as Jim Gavin!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 22, 2019, 01:50:03 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 21, 2019, 11:56:33 PM
According to Des Cahill we all can't wait for that Tyrone v Dublin game in Omagh. Has nobody told him its a dead rubber contest?

Maybe not! Both will want to lose to avoid Mayo in the semi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on July 22, 2019, 02:33:08 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 21, 2019, 11:32:05 PM
Tbf, boland got away with an awful load of steps. There was a meath player who got away with a nice few shortly after that as well
watch for 2 bounces not called either seen a lot of that lately
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jayop on July 22, 2019, 05:50:08 PM
f**k me tried to watch the Tyrone highlights on the Sunday game. No joke I had to watch at least 15 minutes of ads before I found where the Tyrone game was, then it crashed so another 5 minutes of ads, watched the highlights, at least half of the time it was fuzzy nonsense that you couldn't make out a thing then it crashed again half way through the analysis.

We pay for that shite.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 22, 2019, 06:26:36 PM
Quote from: Gmac on July 22, 2019, 02:33:08 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 21, 2019, 11:32:05 PM
Tbf, boland got away with an awful load of steps. There was a meath player who got away with a nice few shortly after that as well
watch for 2 bounces not called either seen a lot of that lately

Happened twice in quick succession in Mayo v Meath game. One by each side. All about looking natural when you do it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 27, 2019, 05:59:43 PM
For fucks sake. Looking forward to the hurling, but that's been ruined as Canning is on commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2019, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 27, 2019, 05:59:43 PM
For f**ks sake. Looking forward to the hurling, but that's been ruined as Canning is on commentary.

Forget Canning, he's not the worst
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2019, 06:06:47 PM
Dogfight coming up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 27, 2019, 06:12:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2019, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on July 27, 2019, 05:59:43 PM
For f**ks sake. Looking forward to the hurling, but that's been ruined as Canning is on commentary.

Forget Canning, he's not the worst

He is.

Back to the 5 second delay commentary on RTE radio 1. It's still better than Canning.

Christ, his retirement can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2019, 06:16:16 PM
Looks like limerick currently have that delay too...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on July 27, 2019, 08:04:47 PM
Thoroughly enjoyed watching that and Canning didn't bother me in the slightest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on July 28, 2019, 04:18:34 PM
Maloney and Duignan updating us on team tactics, match ups and positional changes every 15 minutes. Like a mini lecture in modern hurling tactics. Can those f**kers in the football not be sat down and explained this is how you do commentary
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 28, 2019, 04:28:01 PM
Exactly rather than telling us X passed the ball to Y and over the bar.
We've already seen that ourselves.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 28, 2019, 06:02:17 PM
They should say lookit a lot more then it will be just like the hurling!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 28, 2019, 06:55:30 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2019, 04:28:01 PM
Exactly rather than telling us X passed the ball to Y and over the bar.
We've already seen that ourselves.

And it's 8 points each, 25 minutes gone, and it's been level 5 times. And that's his 3 point of the game. Oh Christ...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2019, 07:04:06 PM
A lot blaming the referee today! Jez, there was so many borderline hits and a huge intensity there. One middle aged man to keep an eye on everything is too much. Both of Tipp disallowed goals in the first half were good calls. It's not the referee's fault that Hawk eye was so slow to make a decision. And what was the referee to do? The Red was correct also.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2019, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?

In real time i suppose the boys in the Hawk eye box were caught out by the incident in real time. They had to review it, make a decision and tell the referee. 30 seconds in such a situation is not much time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ardtole on July 28, 2019, 07:48:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2019, 07:04:06 PM
A lot blaming the referee today! Jez, there was so many borderline hits and a huge intensity there. One middle aged man to keep an eye on everything is too much. Both of Tipp disallowed goals in the first half were good calls. It's not the referee's fault that Hawk eye was so slow to make a decision. And what was the referee to do? The Red was correct also.

I thought the first tipp goal should have stood. All the other decisions, although marginal were correct calls. Very tough game to referee today, and I thought a lot if the calls,  he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. Incredible game though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ardtole on July 28, 2019, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2019, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM

B
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?

In real time i suppose the boys in the Hawk eye box were caught out by the incident in real time. They had to review it, make a decision and tell the referee. 30 seconds in such a situation is not much time.

By the time the keeper caught the sliothar, cleared his lines, ball was moved into the ff line and goal, was probably under 10-15 seconds, impossible to communicate to ref In that short period of time
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maiden1 on July 28, 2019, 08:01:55 PM
Quote from: ardtole on July 28, 2019, 07:51:51 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 28, 2019, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM

B
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?

In real time i suppose the boys in the Hawk eye box were caught out by the incident in real time. They had to review it, make a decision and tell the referee. 30 seconds in such a situation is not much time.

By the time the keeper caught the sliothar, cleared his lines, ball was moved into the ff line and goal, was probably under 10-15 seconds, impossible to communicate to ref In that short period of time
In NBA if ref calls 3 points and video review says 2 they just play on and correct the score. Maybe in last minute stop the game and wait on the review as it might affect if team goes for point or not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on July 28, 2019, 09:02:15 PM
in the replay, looked like wexford player threw himself to.rhe ground rather than tipp man dragging him  down, but his arms were definitely arouns him, so could easily have been given
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on July 28, 2019, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?

TBF the incident today was the first of its kind. Hawkeye is usually to determine a wide or a point. In this case I was shocked to see it also works on another dimension. Well done Hawkeye I say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walt Jabsco on July 28, 2019, 09:58:08 PM


Hawkeye Protocols for use where Score Detection System is installed

The Hawkeye Point Detection System is available for matches played in Croke Park and Semple Stadium. The Referee or an
umpire can initiate the Hawkeye Review for any close calls where there is an element of doubt.
In the case of an umpire initiating the process, the umpire will call for the review process by signalling a square in the air
towards the Referee. The Referee will do the same. The Hawkeye Review Official acknowledges that the review is underway
and output is then to the Big Screen and directly to the Referee from the Review Official.
Where the Referee and Umpires have made an error the Hawkeye Review Official will interrupt, ask the Referee to stop play
and initiate a Hawkeye Review
.
The flow chart below best describes the process:
HAWKEYE PROTOCOL
Point scoring attempt
No Doubt
Hawkeye
Conclusive
Referee
decision
Referee
decision
Hawkeye
Conclusive
Hawkeye
Inconclusive
Hawkeye
Inconclusive
Umpire Doubt Referee Doubt
Umpire signals decision Umpire "calls" for Hawkeye
Umpire signals
decision
Umpire signals
decision
Referee
consults with
umpires
Referee
consults with
umpires
Referee "calls" for Hawkeye
Umpire signals
decision
Umpire signals
decision
Following Review the game restarts with a
kick/puck out or 45 (Football)/65 (Hurling), as normal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 28, 2019, 10:09:15 PM
Was told Hawkeye was the boss and that was it. Their decision is correct, whether Sheedy thought it was over or not, it wasn't. Catch over the bar was a point. Hawkeye did it's job
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 28, 2019, 10:18:41 PM
At 1-16 each, definite Wexford penalty
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 28, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Donal Og was a breath of fresh air when started years ago. Can't listen to him now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: MayoBuck on July 28, 2019, 10:49:25 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?

It's not instant like the goal line technology in soccer these days. There are several cameras around Croke Park and they all work in tandem to make the decision.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on July 28, 2019, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 28, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Donal Og was a breath of fresh air when started years ago. Can't listen to him now.

Even Big Jack and the Brits got a touch tonight!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: didlyi on July 28, 2019, 11:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 28, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Donal Og was a breath of fresh air when started years ago. Can't listen to him now.

Would like to see him make more use of his pen and shove it........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 28, 2019, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on July 28, 2019, 10:49:25 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 28, 2019, 07:33:49 PM
Why is Hawkeye slow, it being a computer? Does someone review it?

It's not instant like the goal line technology in soccer these days. There are several cameras around Croke Park and they all work in tandem to make the decision.
Maybe real hawks were doing the job today.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: moysider on July 29, 2019, 01:08:04 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2019, 10:04:44 PM
The remnants of British culture. There you are now. Header.

Have to admit I was a bit wtf! with that ???
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AZOffaly on July 29, 2019, 08:23:25 AM
The worst decision of the whole lot was not to play advantage for Jake Morris' goal. Every ref in Ireland plays 5 second advantages at this stage, so to blow up immediately there was brutal.

I thought the first Tipp goal was a soft enough free, no problem with the hawkeye decision though. Same situation as if a linesman flags a ball over the line, but the ref takes a while to see it. The ball is dead at that stage, so everything else is immaterial.

Barry Heffernan very lucky, John McGrath very, very lucky.

But how many Wexford head high tackles didn't get a yellow card? The Wexford 7 should have been gone for his head high with Bubbles Dwyer, because he was on a yellow. Noel McGrath got a yellow (correctly) for the same thing.

Tipp lads are manic on referees most of the time, they are seriously one eyed when it comes to that, but I thought the ref yesterday got some big decisions wrong. The Lee Chin incident could easily have been a penalty too, but it was hard to tell if he was pulled down or fell down looking for it. He was fairly surrounded so there was no need to foul him really, but Ronan Maher had his hands around him at least.

As I said though, biggest frustration for me was the disallowed goal that he brought back for a 20m free.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mikhailov on July 29, 2019, 08:41:06 AM
Regarding Hawkeye, did I hear yesterday that Hawkeye can only notify the referee when the ball is out of play as in a wide ball etc. If that is right then that would explain why it took so long to get it sorted. The ball stayed in play after the keeper catch for another 25/30 seconds before the referee was
consulted. He can only take action when the ball is out of play, in yesterday's case when the ball hit the net.

Maybe I am wrong but I thought I heard or read something along those lines
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 29, 2019, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: hardstation on July 28, 2019, 10:04:44 PM
The remnants of British culture. There you are now. Header.

Cringeworthy stuff to come out with.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 04, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
Brolly giving the sky deal gig a dig.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on August 04, 2019, 10:13:42 PM
Des setting up the panel to criticise the GAA for selling rights to SKY, and then they showed a big whopper SKY advert during the break - money talks.  I had to laugh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on August 04, 2019, 10:25:44 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on August 04, 2019, 10:13:42 PM
Des setting up the panel to criticise the GAA for selling rights to SKY, and then they showed a big whopper SKY advert during the break - money talks.  I had to laugh.

What have I learnt from the first half hour of the show apart from Tomás O Sé not having Sky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2019, 11:20:43 PM
Peter Keane is a true Kerryman. Blaming the wind for the scores being level at half time after a resounding win.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2019, 11:32:07 PM
That was some Dublin love-in we were treated to tonight.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: omaghjoe on August 12, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Not a feckin mention of the ref in Ty v Ky. More interested in Filling 5mins about Mickey Hartes future plans. Cavanagh gives them a soundbite that they can run with too  ::). At least O'Rourke had the decency to say nothin
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on August 12, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 12, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Not a feckin mention of the ref in Ty v Ky. More interested in Filling 5mins about Mickey Hartes future plans. Cavanagh gives them a soundbite that they can run with too  ::). At least O'Rourke had the decency to say nothin

I generally don't rewatch games we lose or the highlights of them. Did the Sunday game highlight anything to do with the ref when mayo beat Armagh?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Angelo on August 12, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 12, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Not a feckin mention of the ref in Ty v Ky. More interested in Filling 5mins about Mickey Hartes future plans. Cavanagh gives them a soundbite that they can run with too  ::). At least O'Rourke had the decency to say nothin

I generally don't rewatch games we lose or the highlights of them. Did the Sunday game highlight anything to do with the ref when mayo beat Armagh?

Just the time keeping I think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on August 12, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 12, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 12, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Not a feckin mention of the ref in Ty v Ky. More interested in Filling 5mins about Mickey Hartes future plans. Cavanagh gives them a soundbite that they can run with too  ::). At least O'Rourke had the decency to say nothin

I generally don't rewatch games we lose or the highlights of them. Did the Sunday game highlight anything to do with the ref when mayo beat Armagh?

Just the time keeping I think.

Maybe it's a general policy not to be overly critical of refs
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Angelo on August 12, 2019, 12:59:32 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: Angelo on August 12, 2019, 12:45:15 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 12, 2019, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 12, 2019, 06:26:28 AM
Not a feckin mention of the ref in Ty v Ky. More interested in Filling 5mins about Mickey Hartes future plans. Cavanagh gives them a soundbite that they can run with too  ::). At least O'Rourke had the decency to say nothin

I generally don't rewatch games we lose or the highlights of them. Did the Sunday game highlight anything to do with the ref when mayo beat Armagh?

Just the time keeping I think.

Maybe it's a general policy not to be overly critical of refs

I'd say it hinges out who was sinned against to make it an issue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Minder on August 12, 2019, 01:25:52 PM
Aidan O'Mahony on the juice last night
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on August 12, 2019, 01:28:38 PM
This is where the self imposed media ban by Mickey Harte goes against Tyrone. RTE media were never likely to highlight the poor refereeing decisions when Harte will not allow the county to engage with the national broadcaster. I was curious as to whether the panellists would mention the referee which was one of the main talking points from yesterdays game together with the excessive amount of pulling and dragging off the ball.

I didn't watch the programme last night was any of this mentioned?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WhoDat on August 12, 2019, 01:36:13 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 12, 2019, 01:25:52 PM
Aidan O'Mahony on the juice last night

he's never not at it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on August 12, 2019, 11:35:44 PM
What's with all these slow motion montages? Annoying as frig
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 01, 2019, 04:24:10 PM
Jesus Christ, will they take that Brolly w**ker off this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on September 01, 2019, 07:13:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 01, 2019, 04:24:10 PM
Jesus Christ, will they take that Brolly w**ker off this.

The irony of Brolly losing the plot over someone interrupting him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Carbery on September 01, 2019, 08:18:15 PM
How does Brolly add to a serious discussion about a game without prefixing it with the comment
"I was talking to someone and you know what they said to me?"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on September 02, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
I would take it much further than that.

Yesterday, Joanne Cantwell pushed Whelan to clarify if he thought that Cooper wasn't holding Clifford's arm. Whelan said it was just two lads going for the ball. How can this be allowed happen? They're criticising a referee's decision, which he had one look at, and with the aid of several replies he's basically saying black is white.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: MayoBuck on September 02, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on September 02, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
I would take it much further than that.

Yesterday, Joanne Cantwell pushed Whelan to clarify if he thought that Cooper wasn't holding Clifford's arm. Whelan said it was just two lads going for the ball. How can this be allowed happen? They're criticising a referee's decision, which he had one look at, and with the aid of several replies he's basically saying black is white.

Whelan actually said after watching the replay, I don't agree that Cooper grabbed his arm. If he's coming out with that rubbish, he shouldn't be on when Dublin are playing.

Brolly is getting worse by the week. Surely RTE have to get rid of him this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 03, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
I don't have a problem with Ciaran Whelan per se,  just  he should not under any circumstances be in the chair when Dublin are playing in such a game, stubborn bias got in the way of  his analysis to an irritating extent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on September 04, 2019, 11:38:39 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 03, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
I don't have a problem with Ciaran Whelan per se,  just  he should not under any circumstances be in the chair when Dublin are playing in such a game, stubborn bias got in the way of  his analysis to an irritating extent.
Shefflin was the same in the hurling when KK had the fella sent off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on September 04, 2019, 01:35:26 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 03, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
I don't have a problem with Ciaran Whelan per se,  just  he should not under any circumstances be in the chair when Dublin are playing in such a game, stubborn bias got in the way of  his analysis to an irritating extent.
I didn't either until last Sunday.

As for stubborn bias, he's paid to do a job. If you met a Dub in the pub and watched the replay of the incident, regardless of anything else you'd expect 95% to accept that Cooper pulled Clifford's arm as it's clear as day.

For a pundit on our national station on the biggest GAA day of the year to come out with, what can only be described as lies shouldn't put down to stubborn bias.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 04, 2019, 03:37:01 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get aroused at what he says.
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on September 04, 2019, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.

Whelan is probably the most knowledgeable pundits for the tactical stuff of RTE pundits along with Tomas O'Se and McStay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on September 05, 2019, 09:25:32 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on September 04, 2019, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 02, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Okay let's step aside on Brolly for a while. He has a cult following of people who tune in just to get angry at what he says. So RTE would be mad to ship him out.

But can anyone please tell me how it is that Ciaran Whelan has an AI match day seat in the RTE panel. He provides zero insight. He is a weak orator. He is unable to grasp or explain tactical battles.

He is always awful and yesterday was somehow a rung down again. RTE would have been as well dragging the first man out of Meaghers wearing a Dublin kit with six pints swilling around inside him.
Great on the tactics, his eyesight just lets him down.

Whelan is probably the most knowledgeable pundits for the tactical stuff of RTE pundits along with Tomas O'Se and McStay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Seany on September 05, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
I actually rate Ciaran Whelan very highly as an analyst.  He talks a lot of sense and of course you'll expect him to be a bit biased when Dublin are playing.  he's not someone who signed for them for a few years, but a living, breathing Dub, so that will always come out and what helps to make it interesting.

I think they're all quite good, but Joe Brolly simply has no self awareness whatsoever.  He doesn't know how to listen, how to absorb someone else's point and respond rationally and logically to it.  He interrupts, shows poor manners and always wants the show to be about him.  He has some great insights, but I think people have caught him on and he has crossed the tipping point where he's not taken seriously now at all.

McStay definitely the best of them all. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on September 05, 2019, 09:42:02 AM
I think Whelan is poor myself. He has no ability to put his Dublin bias aside at any time and in general terms I don't think his tactical knowledge is that great.
Tomas O'Se is the best of the lot of them, though I think O'Rourke and Brolly are rarely far off in the tactical analysis. Brolly just has that way about him that rubs people the wrong way even when he is right...a lot of people can't hear what he's saying just because of the way he says it.

Sean Cavanagh has to be the worst addition in a long long time. Anyone notice how he keeps running out of breath during his comments? He tends to repeat analysis that was in the papers the week coming up to a game and claim as his own OR he tries to come out with controversial comments a-la-brolly just to keep himself interesting. Don't rate him at all.

McStay is good analytically, but by God he would bore you to tears.

Spillane is just the counter to Brolly, couldn't have one without the other. I have to say I don't agree with a lot of his analysis, but he's honest in what he says so I like that.
Colm Cooper is very good too....but doesn't seem to get many games.

As for Joanne Cantwell, she just puts me right off if I'm honest. She obviously doesn't like Brolly and he's sly enough to respond to her obvious digs without letting it get to him. But it's uncomfortable viewing I think when they are both on. Her style of discussion is very scripted, and whilst it was always going to be impossible to get a replacement for Lyster I think she hits well below the mark.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 05, 2019, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: Seany on September 05, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
I actually rate Ciaran Whelan very highly as an analyst.  He talks a lot of sense and of course you'll expect him to be a bit biased when Dublin are playing.  he's not someone who signed for them for a few years, but a living, breathing Dub, so that will always come out and what helps to make it interesting.

I think they're all quite good, but Joe Brolly simply has no self awareness whatsoever.  He doesn't know how to listen, how to absorb someone else's point and respond rationally and logically to it.  He interrupts, shows poor manners and always wants the show to be about him.  He has some great insights, but I think people have caught him on and he has crossed the tipping point where he's not taken seriously now at all.

McStay definitely the best of them all.

McStay has done the management stint, picked up a trophy. So he has plenty of respect.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on September 05, 2019, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 05, 2019, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: Seany on September 05, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
I actually rate Ciaran Whelan very highly as an analyst.  He talks a lot of sense and of course you'll expect him to be a bit biased when Dublin are playing.  he's not someone who signed for them for a few years, but a living, breathing Dub, so that will always come out and what helps to make it interesting.

I think they're all quite good, but Joe Brolly simply has no self awareness whatsoever.  He doesn't know how to listen, how to absorb someone else's point and respond rationally and logically to it.  He interrupts, shows poor manners and always wants the show to be about him.  He has some great insights, but I think people have caught him on and he has crossed the tipping point where he's not taken seriously now at all.

McStay definitely the best of them all.

McStay has done the management stint, picked up a trophy. So he has plenty of respect.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvGVM0CUHWs

Whelan should have got a month in Jail for this one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: magpie seanie on September 05, 2019, 11:06:25 AM
The game has evolved so muich since Spillane, Brolly and O'Rourke played that they just aren't up to speed with it. However, as I've stated here a few times - RTE's goal is not to analyse the games. It's to entertain the masses. I disagree vehemently with this approach and until it changes I won't be watching pregame or half time or the talking pieces of TSG. As I and those who are like minded are in the minority it probably won't make one iota of difference which is unfortunate. I spend a good bit of time in the car so I get my analysis discussions from podcasts etc. but it would be nice to get it on the national broadcaster.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on September 05, 2019, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on September 05, 2019, 09:42:02 AM
I think Whelan is poor myself. He has no ability to put his Dublin bias aside at any time and in general terms I don't think his tactical knowledge is that great.
Tomas O'Se is the best of the lot of them, though I think O'Rourke and Brolly are rarely far off in the tactical analysis. Brolly just has that way about him that rubs people the wrong way even when he is right...a lot of people can't hear what he's saying just because of the way he says it.

Sean Cavanagh has to be the worst addition in a long long time. Anyone notice how he keeps running out of breath during his comments? He tends to repeat analysis that was in the papers the week coming up to a game and claim as his own OR he tries to come out with controversial comments a-la-brolly just to keep himself interesting. Don't rate him at all.

McStay is good analytically, but by God he would bore you to tears.

Spillane is just the counter to Brolly, couldn't have one without the other. I have to say I don't agree with a lot of his analysis, but he's honest in what he says so I like that.
Colm Cooper is very good too....but doesn't seem to get many games.

As for Joanne Cantwell, she just puts me right off if I'm honest. She obviously doesn't like Brolly and he's sly enough to respond to her obvious digs without letting it get to him. But it's uncomfortable viewing I think when they are both on. Her style of discussion is very scripted, and whilst it was always going to be impossible to get a replacement for Lyster I think she hits well below the mark.

Whelan has a decent tactical knowledge.  Very good on kickouts, blanket defence, positional changes. Research teams whether it Mayo or Clare.  Gooch is very poor, does little research and always get name of players wrong all the time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 05, 2019, 11:23:53 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 05, 2019, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 05, 2019, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: Seany on September 05, 2019, 09:38:15 AM
I actually rate Ciaran Whelan very highly as an analyst.  He talks a lot of sense and of course you'll expect him to be a bit biased when Dublin are playing.  he's not someone who signed for them for a few years, but a living, breathing Dub, so that will always come out and what helps to make it interesting.

I think they're all quite good, but Joe Brolly simply has no self awareness whatsoever.  He doesn't know how to listen, how to absorb someone else's point and respond rationally and logically to it.  He interrupts, shows poor manners and always wants the show to be about him.  He has some great insights, but I think people have caught him on and he has crossed the tipping point where he's not taken seriously now at all.

McStay definitely the best of them all.

McStay has done the management stint, picked up a trophy. So he has plenty of respect.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvGVM0CUHWs

Whelan should have got a month in Jail for this one.

And another month for his karate kick, and another for elbowing the Westmeath player on the ground, and another for busting the Meath man's nose after 2 seconds.........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 10, 2019, 01:30:29 PM
I read that as Deano lined up to strike that sideline ball to win the record 5 in a row for the Dubs, about 1.1m were tuned in to those moments in time on TV.
Also reported by RTE was that there were 161,000 streams of the game  on the RTE player. That seems an incredible number of streams to facilitate, I don't know how that works or is made to work but RTE appear to have done very well in that regard.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 10, 2019, 03:14:41 PM
RTÉ confirm All-Ireland football final punditry panels, Joe Brolly absent from line-up.

Live show: Pat Spillane, Ciaran Whelan, Stephen Rochford.

Radio: Alan Brogan, Conor McManus, Colm Cooper.

Nighttime show: Colm O'Rourke, Sean Cavanagh, Tomás Ó Sé.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on September 10, 2019, 04:00:39 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on September 10, 2019, 03:14:41 PM
RTÉ confirm All-Ireland football final punditry panels, Joe Brolly absent from line-up.

Live show: Pat Spillane, Ciaran Whelan, Stephen Rochford.

Radio: Alan Brogan, Conor McManus, Colm Cooper.

Nighttime show: Colm O'Rourke, Sean Cavanagh, Tomás Ó Sé.

A strong Kerry presence!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on September 11, 2019, 08:11:11 AM
Time for a bring Back Joe campaign.. whats needed is a song and a flag..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on September 11, 2019, 08:12:32 AM
Conor's sketches just laid off 4 staff, blaming Brexit,  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owen Brannigan on September 15, 2019, 11:13:37 AM
Team of the Year

Cluxton

Fitzsimmons  -  McNamee  -  O'Sullivan

Durcan  -  Boyle  -  McCaffrey

Fenton  -  Moran

Murphy  -  O'Shea  -  Howard

Mannion  -  McShane  -  O'Callaghan


Clifford, O'Brien, Kilkenny???

McNamee?? How did Cavanagh get such an influence? Any Dublin or Mayo back was far superior.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 15, 2019, 02:13:06 PM
Why no footage from the winners hotel (bar the MOTM presentation)?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Nanderson on September 15, 2019, 03:26:24 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 15, 2019, 02:13:06 PM
Why no footage from the winners hotel (bar the MOTM presentation)?
Think they didn't get to the hotel until late. When the Sunday Game highlights was live, the Dublin players were still on the bus according to Instagram
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 16, 2019, 01:50:21 AM
It wasn't the sunday game but just how cringe worthy was it at half time in the Ladies final to have Marty Morrissey shouting into the stadium microphone to the crowd to become enraptured with Marty the micro stud about an attendance statistic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 16, 2019, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: Main Street on September 16, 2019, 01:50:21 AM
It wasn't the sunday game but just how cringe worthy was it at half time in the Ladies final to have Marty Morrissey shouting into the stadium microphone to the crowd to become enraptured with Marty the micro stud about an attendance statistic.

Was Daithi busy?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Keyser soze on September 16, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
Holy H Christ but Ger Canning is a complete dose to listen to. His tenth EVER championship appearance, his 79th EVER championship point... this clown gets well paid for this, has been posting it in for a decade at least. His sanguine assumption of Dublin's apparent stroll to the title when they were really on top over the first 15 mins was embarassing.

Though McStay's equally craven assumption of the Dublin superiority is perhaps an good indication of why Roscommon invariably rolled over to Dublin when he was in charge of them. And that's not a pop at Roscommon in any way. And indeed there are lots of other managers in the exact same boat. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on September 16, 2019, 11:17:55 AM
Just saw the Marty thing there now.
Awful.....
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 16, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
I began watching the final on RTE,  the audio balance between crowd noise and commentary was spot on but unfortunately the audio was out of sync with the video. I switched over to Sky where the crowd noise was muted in favour of the commentary. That sky commentary is irritating,the same old very predictable rehashed phrases are used to describe the play, the co commentary was  mogadon inspired. I'd say Daragh Maloney should be given the AI final  commentary for RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DriveFor5 on September 16, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
I found RTE difficult to hear clearly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on September 16, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 16, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
Holy H Christ but Ger Canning is a complete dose to listen to. His tenth EVER championship appearance, his 79th EVER championship point... this clown gets well paid for this, has been posting it in for a decade at least. His sanguine assumption of Dublin's apparent stroll to the title when they were really on top over the first 15 mins was embarassing.

Though McStay's equally craven assumption of the Dublin superiority is perhaps an good indication of why Roscommon invariably rolled over to Dublin when he was in charge of them. And that's not a pop at Roscommon in any way. And indeed there are lots of other managers in the exact same boat.

+1

Ger Canning made me sick with his Dublin love fest.

A pure shit commentator. After 48 mins of the game 2 or 3 points in it. " The clock is running out on Kerry"  wtf.

I used to respect Mcstay more for his commentary on general comments, but money obviously talks and his current skewed commentary reflects that.

pretty sad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 16, 2019, 10:24:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 16, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
I began watching the final on RTE,  the audio balance between crowd noise and commentary was spot on but unfortunately the audio was out of sync with the video. I switched over to Sky where the crowd noise was muted in favour of the commentary. That sky commentary is irritating,the same old very predictable rehashed phrases are used to describe the play, the co commentary was  mogadon inspired. I'd say Daragh Maloney should be given the AI final  commentary for RTE.
Maloney was doing it for the radio on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 16, 2019, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: DriveFor5 on September 16, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
I found RTE difficult to hear clearly.
Then with your audio set up/ear wax levels, you would have found Sky audio even more muted, biased to favour higher commentary volume over and above crowd atmosphere.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 16, 2019, 11:01:03 PM
Who was Sky's commentator?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on September 16, 2019, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on September 16, 2019, 11:01:03 PM
Who was Sky's commentator?

Dave McIntyre and much better commentator than any on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on September 17, 2019, 10:58:59 AM
I've given up on RTE and GAA when Sky are broadcasting, better analysis, even if it is from a Tye-rone man. RTE complaining at lost revenues whilst sticking two fingers up at those in the North who have watched for years. Canning is the most useless trite commentator ever and not just with GAA.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on September 17, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 17, 2019, 10:58:59 AM
I've given up on RTE and GAA when Sky are broadcasting, better analysis, even if it is from a Tye-rone man. RTE complaining at lost revenues whilst sticking two fingers up at those in the North who have watched for years. Canning is the most useless trite commentator ever and not just with GAA.

Just googled Canning. He's 68. Does he not have to retire same as Lyster?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: haranguerer on September 17, 2019, 01:35:57 PM
Sky light years ahead
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 17, 2019, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 17, 2019, 01:18:27 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 17, 2019, 10:58:59 AM
I've given up on RTE and GAA when Sky are broadcasting, better analysis, even if it is from a Tye-rone man. RTE complaining at lost revenues whilst sticking two fingers up at those in the North who have watched for years. Canning is the most useless trite commentator ever and not just with GAA.

Just googled Canning. He's 68. Does he not have to retire same as Lyster?
Then you get the Marty Party in full drive then, careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 17, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 16, 2019, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on September 16, 2019, 11:01:03 PM
Who was Sky's commentator?

Dave McIntyre and much better commentator than any on RTE.

Good commentator alright.  From OTB, I hear he's the guy who signed up, but is now afraid to get the snip, but that's for another thread.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 17, 2019, 04:59:37 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/GAA__JOE/status/1184715153411059712
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on October 17, 2019, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 17, 2019, 04:59:37 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/GAA__JOE/status/1184715153411059712

Says the cheerleader for Dublin, never a mention of finance!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on October 17, 2019, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 17, 2019, 04:59:37 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/GAA__JOE/status/1184715153411059712

Christ, He is some drama queen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on October 17, 2019, 07:20:29 PM
Being a pundit on the Sunday Game is great for a Pundits profile. I suppose Brolly is afraid of being forgotten.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 18, 2019, 08:06:16 AM
A narcissist is going to narcissist.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: t_mac on October 18, 2019, 08:45:32 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 17, 2019, 04:59:37 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/GAA__JOE/status/1184715153411059712

There's balance Joanne Cantwell said she had lost confidence in Joe's ability as an analyst, imagine the uproar if he said he lost confidence in her ability as a presenter, Rois would be choking on her cornflakes to be offended as well as the lick ass brigade on here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on October 18, 2019, 11:08:17 AM

Has anyone seen any evidence of Joe's Joanne Cantwell claim being true?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 18, 2019, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 18, 2019, 11:08:17 AM

Has anyone seen any evidence of Joe's Joanne Cantwell claim being true?

Reflects poorly on her if it is true (a big if and we'll probably never know).

Nobody likes someone going behind their back to the boss. We've all worked with people like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on October 18, 2019, 12:21:08 PM

Aye but as is usual with Joe, he says these things matter of fact as though they are already accepted truth more often than Trump he's either massaged or manufactured the facts.

"I was talking to a Galway player..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9kaloihyg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9kaloihyg)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trueblue1234 on October 18, 2019, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 18, 2019, 12:21:08 PM

Aye but as is usual with Joe, he says these things matter of fact as though they are already accepted truth more often than Trump he's either massaged or manufactured the facts.

"I was talking to a Galway player..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9kaloihyg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9kaloihyg)

This is the issue. Joe has no credibility.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Esmarelda on October 18, 2019, 03:00:33 PM
Fair play to him for ringing Michael Lyster on the morning of the game  ::)
A true gael and son of Derry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Carbery on January 26, 2020, 10:01:45 PM
Great to see Sean & Kevin back on The Sunday Game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: FermGael on January 26, 2020, 10:29:18 PM
What was that do you reckon?
A full 3 minutes tops on division 2, 3 and 4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on January 26, 2020, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 26, 2020, 10:29:18 PM
What was that do you reckon?
A full 3 minutes tops on division 2, 3 and 4.

The worst thing is spending so much time on the Dublin Kerry game again, when the full game was broadcast on the same channel barely 24 hours ago.
Never mind the fact that the full game is up on the RTE player.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 26, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 26, 2020, 10:29:18 PM
What was that do you reckon?
A full 3 minutes tops on division 2, 3 and 4.

I'm actually surprised the gave them any coverage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2020, 10:58:05 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 26, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: FermGael on January 26, 2020, 10:29:18 PM
What was that do you reckon?
A full 3 minutes tops on division 2, 3 and 4.

I'm actually surprised the gave them any coverage!

Ah, the 2nd tier teams don't matter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on December 06, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
I'm not sure Andy McEntee was the best guest for that particular debate. It's like he didn't do any research or homework to back up the points he was trying to make.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on December 06, 2020, 10:48:03 PM
I wonder will they discuss any football at some stage
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on December 06, 2020, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: square_ball on December 06, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
I'm not sure Andy McEntee was the best guest for that particular debate. It's like he didn't do any research or homework to back up the points he was trying to make.

That was just Pat Gilroy and Des having a chat about what's the problem with the rest of us! Andy was just a cross spectator like the rest of us!  :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 06, 2020, 10:52:05 PM
Gilroy did a good job of muddying the waters there. He actually argued that the Dubs don't receive enough funding and everyone else but Dublin is spending their money badly.

McEntee was absolutely hopeless.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2020, 10:55:16 PM
Some of the shite Gilroy came out made me chuckle. "It's almost racism" and "Sligo with Leitrim, whatever. They know each other from DCU."

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on December 06, 2020, 10:59:13 PM
Looking at it tonight - Gooch, McStay and McEntee look afraid to take the issue on. They danced around the issues. All seem afraid of losing their appearance fee.

Gilroy looked like a drunk you'd meet in the pub, whose opinion is right and there is no reasoning with him. Des was like the barman who is happy with the way things are and looking to sell more drinks.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 06, 2020, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 06, 2020, 10:52:05 PM
Gilroy did a good job of muddying the waters there.

McEntee was absolutely hopeless.
I thought he was doing very well up until close to the end -- if you know what I mean.
He was motoring well until he mentioned Kilkenny's recent dominance and put out the usual guff about Dublin  inevitably being caught.
Even though an infographic showed that (in 2015) Dublin got about  €274 per player wheres their opponents in the final got only €22 approx. Back to Kilkenny, a county with far fewer senior clubs (12) than Cork with 25 and most others with certainly more than Kilkenny. Furthermore, Kilkenny players had to stand outside church gates to beg money to pay for their own oversea holiday after winning an AI on more than one occasion.
Sheer talent alone put Kilkenny in front of the pack- can the same be said for Dublin?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on December 06, 2020, 11:06:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 06, 2020, 10:59:13 PM
Looking at it tonight - Gooch, McStay and McEntee look afraid to take the issue on. They danced around the issues. All seem afraid of losing their appearance fee.

Gilroy looked like a drunk you'd meet in the pub, whose opinion is right and there is no reasoning with him. Des was like the barman who is happy with the way things are and looking to sell more drinks.

Bingo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on December 06, 2020, 11:09:58 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on December 06, 2020, 10:48:03 PM
I wonder will they discuss any football at some stage

That'll be a no
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on December 06, 2020, 11:10:28 PM
Quote from: square_ball on December 06, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
I'm not sure Andy McEntee was the best guest for that particular debate. It's like he didn't do any research or homework to back up the points he was trying to make.

Well, we couldn't have someone who knows what he's talking about now, could we?

So, that's that covered then. Move along, nothing to see here.

Keep bankrolling the Dubs. The other 31 are just a bunch of lazy whingers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on December 06, 2020, 11:25:35 PM
That was a bizarre debate. Andy McEntee looked a bit lost and offered no real insight into what he would propose to do. Gilroy was ranting and raving and threw out some really bizarre alternatives such as joining Kerry and Cork, implementing a granny rule etc. Des Cahill is a really poor host and there was no real structure to the debate whatsoever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on December 06, 2020, 11:42:21 PM
Funny how when Dublin were beating Mayo and Tyrone in AI finals and mopping up leinsters for 15 years there was nothing said in RTE or sunday papers about Dublin dominance but all of a sudden when the Kerry mafia take up the issue we've a real problem.  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on December 06, 2020, 11:48:22 PM
Quote from: trileacman on December 06, 2020, 11:42:21 PM
Funny how when Dublin were beating Mayo and Tyrone in AI finals and mopping up leinsters for 15 years there was nothing said in RTE or sunday papers about Dublin dominance but all of a sudden when the Kerry mafia take up the issue we've a real problem.  ::)

Yes, O Shea yesterday and Gooch tonight showed the same graphic. Dublin 2011 and Dublin 2020. Kerry have the most to lose. Dublin are going for 30 on the 19th. Seven behind the Kingdom. Before all this they were at 22.  The lead has gone from 14 to 7! They are within touching distance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 07, 2020, 12:49:07 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on December 06, 2020, 11:25:35 PM
That was a bizarre debate. Andy McEntee looked a bit lost and offered no real insight into what he would propose to do. Gilroy was ranting and raving and threw out some really bizarre alternatives such as joining Kerry and Cork, implementing a granny rule etc. Des Cahill is a really poor host and there was no real structure to the debate whatsoever.
That's Des for every show. Pat Gilroy led Dublin to their first senior All-Ireland since 1995 in 2011 it was also their first final since 1995 little did he think he'd be on the Sunday game nine years later having a debate on Dublin dominance that's ruining the game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 07, 2020, 08:35:00 AM
I thought it was a joke to be honest. A Dub 'hosting' the debate and another firing insults about volunteers in other counties.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 08:38:38 AM
Des Cahill is a terrible host. I took a dislike to him since he tried to, and more or less did, stitch Eamon O'Hara on controversy with Kevin Walsh to get himself a headline. He tried the same with Donal Og a week later regarding the Cork strike bu Donal Og was too cute. A terrible host.

I didn't watch it but tbh I find RTE analysis very poor in general so usually just record the sunday game and fast forward through it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on December 07, 2020, 09:42:10 AM
Gilroy came across as an arrogant entitled buffoon, tried to shout down McEntee at every opportunity.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on December 07, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on December 07, 2020, 09:42:10 AM
Gilroy came across as an arrogant entitled buffoon, tried to shout down McEntee at every opportunity.

He did, but McEntee was poor.

This won't be brought up again on TSG. Nothing is going to change.

So, it's clearly RIP the All Ireland championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on December 07, 2020, 10:15:30 AM
You're being "pathetic" Benny :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on December 07, 2020, 10:48:12 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 07, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on December 07, 2020, 09:42:10 AM
Gilroy came across as an arrogant entitled buffoon, tried to shout down McEntee at every opportunity.

He did, but McEntee was poor.

This won't be brought up again on TSG. Nothing is going to change.

So, it's clearly RIP the All Ireland championship.

Yep, TSG have ticked the box now! Job done.
McEntee was hardly able to speak - it was like he didn't realise he was coming on to discuss the topic at all. Gilroy was like a loudmouth in the pub, even saying Dublin don't get enough funding! 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on December 07, 2020, 11:07:46 AM
McEntee was very poor, Gilroy not much better but the point he made about Dublin offering assistance to the other Leinster counties and not being taken up should be looked into - what was offered and to whom was it offered? Why was it rejected? If it was a genuine offer, you'd have thought that at least one of the 11 counties would have taken it up, very poor if they didn't   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on December 07, 2020, 11:30:14 AM
I'm sure the stats are here somewhere but how many registered players are there in Dublin and and does anyone know how that compares to 20 years ago?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on December 07, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
Around 39,000 these days anyway (only 3% of the population mind you. Ros CB area pop 62k 6,500 registered players).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on December 07, 2020, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 07, 2020, 11:07:46 AM
McEntee was very poor, Gilroy not much better but the point he made about Dublin offering assistance to the other Leinster counties and not being taken up should be looked into - what was offered and to whom was it offered? Why was it rejected? If it was a genuine offer, you'd have thought that at least one of the 11 counties would have taken it up, very poor if they didn't

Gilroy was all over the place, but he did make a few good points, one being that they needed more clubs in Dublin in rapidly expanding areas.
McStay's point about centralising championship mileage expenses etc was a reasonable one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on December 07, 2020, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 07, 2020, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 07, 2020, 11:07:46 AM
McEntee was very poor, Gilroy not much better but the point he made about Dublin offering assistance to the other Leinster counties and not being taken up should be looked into - what was offered and to whom was it offered? Why was it rejected? If it was a genuine offer, you'd have thought that at least one of the 11 counties would have taken it up, very poor if they didn't

Gilroy was all over the place, but he did make a few good points, one being that they needed more clubs in Dublin in rapidly expanding areas.
McStay's point about centralising championship mileage expenses etc was a reasonable one.

That seems like something that should be relatively simple to do also
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on December 07, 2020, 11:56:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
Around 39,000 these days anyway (only 3% of the population mind you. Ros CB area pop 62k 6,500 registered players).

Dublin offers the greatest scope for growth in our games which sounds ridiculous but is true, if someone can offer me a logical reason not to split Dublin I'm all ears.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2020, 12:02:02 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on December 07, 2020, 11:56:14 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
Around 39,000 these days anyway (only 3% of the population mind you. Ros CB area pop 62k 6,500 registered players).

Dublin offers the greatest scope for growth in our games which sounds ridiculous but is true, if someone can offer me a logical reason not to split Dublin I'm all ears.

Because it'll devalue the competition when Dublin a play Dublin b in the final
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on December 07, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
Several Kildare Co Finals have been between Newbridge Clubs Sarsfields and Moorfield.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on December 07, 2020, 12:59:46 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2020, 10:55:16 PM
Some of the shite Gilroy came out made me chuckle. "It's almost racism" and "Sligo with Leitrim, whatever. They know each other from DCU."

Jesus Christ is this actually the argument he used?!?!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on December 07, 2020, 01:16:33 PM
The problem I'd have with splitting Dublin is who'd holds onto the bragging rights?

Who lays claim to the 29 AI titles? The 58 Leinsters?

To the 5/6 in a row?

To the Colours and the Crest?

Does all this go into limbo if a split occurs?

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on December 07, 2020, 01:34:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 07, 2020, 01:16:33 PM
The problem I'd have with splitting Dublin is who'd holds onto the bragging rights?

Who lays claim to the 29 AI titles? The 58 Leinsters?

To the 5/6 in a row?

To the Colours and the Crest?

Does all this go into limbo if a split occurs?
Yes. In sport where you have a big change like that the clock usually  goes back to zero
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on December 07, 2020, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 07, 2020, 01:16:33 PM
The problem I'd have with splitting Dublin is who'd holds onto the bragging rights?

Who lays claim to the 29 AI titles? The 58 Leinsters?

To the 5/6 in a row?

To the Colours and the Crest?

Does all this go into limbo if a split occurs?

Does it really matter? They'd all be able to take pride in the historical record. Stuff like colours are details. No reason why they all couldn't wear the Dublin colours and just change when playing each other.

Ballyshannon and Bundoran merged to form St. Josephs for 15 years back in the 60s and 70s, with the team almost completely built on people who attended De La Salle in Ballyshannon together. They went on to thoroughly dominate the Donegal championship, won an unofficial AI club in 1968 and a club Ulster title in 1975 (you'd the likes of McEniff, Carney, McShea and other county men on the team). Then, a couple of years after the Ulster club, they split up again.

Their titles sit there still in the Donegal and Ulster roll of honour. I guess Bundoran and Aodh Rua can each point to having played their part, but I've never heard anyone getting exercised over who gets credit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 01:44:16 PM
Every time I read stuff here it reads like it's a given they will split Dublin. It's really not.

I would be shocked, not surprised but shocked, if they were to seriously discuss it at any point in the near future.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 07, 2020, 02:01:39 PM
There'll be a United Ireland before Dublin splits
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on December 07, 2020, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 01:44:16 PM
Every time I read stuff here it reads like it's a given they will split Dublin. It's really not.

I would be shocked, not surprised but shocked, if they were to seriously discuss it at any point in the near future.

I don't think it is going to happen either, when it comes to making big structural change bureaucrats will always protect their own nest first and often fail to see the bigger picture. Look at fixture scheduling as a prime example which is a far more pressing concern for the organisation as a whole and which affects tens of thousands of players at club level and not the hundreds at county level.

I'm not saying that the Dublin split at county level won't happen at some point in the future but I certainly don't see it as being on the agenda anytime in the next few years.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 02:08:56 PM
Yeah agreed. 5 in a row is not going to merit everything being changed. If it gets utterly ridiculous then something will need discussed but when do you decide it has become utterly ridiculous is the question?

Don't get me wrong I think something needs done but at present you have a team who's won 5 in a row when in the past 3 in a row was done and an eyelid wasn't batted. I really really hope Mayo win this year but fear there could be a lesson coming up too. I don't think that will shake anything. It would take a large decrease in takings from the GAA to shake it up would be my view on it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on December 07, 2020, 02:17:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 02:08:56 PM
Yeah agreed. 5 in a row is not going to merit everything being changed. If it gets utterly ridiculous then something will need discussed but when do you decide it has become utterly ridiculous is the question?

Don't get me wrong I think something needs done but at present you have a team who's won 5 in a row when in the past 3 in a row was done and an eyelid wasn't batted. I really really hope Mayo win this year but fear there could be a lesson coming up too. I don't think that will shake anything. It would take a large decrease in takings from the GAA to shake it up would be my view on it.

When Kerry did it, it was with an exceptional generation of players who came through together.

That's not the case with Dublin at this point. Their well is not remotely looking like running dry any time soon.

I agree, its not going to happen in the next few seasons. And I agree that the primary question is when the line is finally drawn. In 2025 when we're looking at 12 or 13 titles out of the previous 15 (I'm leaving scope in there for Mayo or Kerry to catch them on a "bad" day over the next five years).

2030, when they'll have won 8 or 9 or even 10 this decade on top of the seven in the 2010s?

I haven't even mentioned Leinster.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 02:21:20 PM
QuoteWhen Kerry did it, it was with an exceptional generation of players who came through together.

That's not the case with Dublin at this point. Their well is not remotely looking like running dry any time soon.

I fully agree with you but this seems to be an argument that some people believe and is the argument that is presented back. I believe it's not the case and so do most outside of Dublin but how do you prove it until enough time passes? If they win this year it is 8 from 10 if my maths is correct... I think there are some who'd have been on all 8?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rudi on December 07, 2020, 02:24:00 PM
With the constant shift of rural population to big cities, this problem will only worsen. Dublins dominance has more to do with government policy than ordinary Gaa folk. The country folk that love all things Gaa by becoming coaches and joining committees have created a monster in Dublin Gaa. I think it's great that young ones are playing Gaa in Dublin in huge numbers, better than getting involved with various anti social behaviour. Wonder if the parent, grand parent rule can be optimised more, maybe Paul Mannion might play for the Rossies. Then again his friends are all Dubs so he probably feels more for his home team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on December 07, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
Its clearly not on the agenda now and won't be unless it starts affecting gate receipts, tv and commercial revenue.

But if we continue with this trend which looks a distinct possibility then some or all the above will start to dwindle.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on December 07, 2020, 02:37:34 PM
I think splitting Dublin or amalgamating counties should be a last resort although it may become inevitable in the future.

Before going down that road, there is plenty around funding, putting good development plans in place in counties, etc. that can be done to try and make the championship more competitive
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyCake on December 07, 2020, 02:59:40 PM
Urbanisation doesn't help. But how big can Dublin get? How big does it become before the government do something? There's only so much land/houses in Dublin, and future increases in population has implications for all the infrastructure around the city.

Surely incentives are needed for big companies to set up in smaller towns, big building projects in rural Ireland, etc. There's good motorways now, so no reason why towns/villages along those routes can't be focused on and improved. The pandemic has shown people can work at home without living or commuting
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: macdanger2 on December 07, 2020, 03:11:02 PM
Good article on RTE:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1207/1182879-capital-investment-inside-dublins-23-year-headstart/

QuoteFor the past couple of years, a movement has been underway to rejuvenate Gaelic Games in Belfast.
It's called Gaelfast, it's led by Dr Paul Donnelly and a group of tight-knit, passionate workers who want the GAA to thrive in the city again.
They receive £1m in funding from Croke Park to fund a five-year project and they need every penny of it. Maybe ten times more. For example, from a population of over 350,000 people living in Belfast, only two of the Antrim senior hurling panel come from the city.
Gaelfast is badly needed, as are similar projects all over the country. The worry now, during this pandemic – and afterwards – is that such projects and coaching initiatives will be threatened as the GAA endeavours to get finances back on track after a difficult 2020 and a challenging-looking 2021, where games could be played amid continuing uncertainty.
But these stormy waters can be navigated. Only last week in Wexford, with businessman Derek Kent and well-respected vice-chairman Micheal Martin at the helm, the county recorded a €507,000 surplus for 2020.
Over the weekend, with Dublin's pretty standard dismissal of Ulster champions Cavan, attention has turned to the funding debate yet again. This debate has raged for well over a decade now. At the end of every year Dublin GAA argue that cutting funding will be detrimental to the Association in the capital. The GAA seem to recognise that and speak of trying to spread resources more evenly to other counties.
The end result is that the Leinster SFC has become an also-ran. Dublin are no world beaters at minor level but for the past five years they have been giants at Under-20 and 21 level. They look set to dominate at senior level in the coming years. Even if their central funding is cut, their sponsorship and commercial revenues will not decrease, their player pool will continue to produce prodigious young talents ready to cope with the physical demands of the modern game, and the tsunami will continue.
Unless counties redraw their blueprint, devise a new development and commercial template, and produce more and better conditioned young players, the gap will only widen.
Catching Dublin will be evolutionary rather than revolutionary. Judging on the Blues' own template, it will take years of persistent, sustained commitment from a group of leaders who can roll out a cultural, performance plan and raise the financial backing for it.
Can it be done? Yes. How? Counties will need external help, but they must find the spark to light the fire themselves. That's what Dublin did when they initially went looking for Government and GAA funding – and proceeded to draw up their own holistic plan from there. It started way back in 1997, with many notable landmarks along the way.

1997
The 1997 season had Dublin worried. The emergence of Meath as an exciting, youthful force left them threatened. When Dublin secretary and current CEO, John Costello, went to report to the county board convention at the end of that year, he admitted as much.
Back then Dublin had to cater for 30% of the country's population. The city and county had grown by 70% in the previous 70 years during which time Dublin had won eight football titles and two hurling titles.
Costello told the convention that two thirds of Dublin's All-Irelands were won before 1926.
The county board had two full-time officials. Costello said that the administrative machinery was unrepresentative and creaking.
Around the same time a push for development squads started. Dublin were well behind counties like Laois, who had Sean Dempsey bringing through players like Brian 'Beano' McDonald and other huge talents.
There was an Under-14 squad with former Dublin senior manager Gerry McCaul and current Ladies football boss Mick Bohan involved in the development programme. Bryan Cullen was one of the 50 players on that panel. Little did they realise the impact that Cullen – an All-Ireland winning captain and current High Performance Manager – would have on the county's ascent.

SEEDS OF A PLAN
It took another five years for the bones of a plan to be clearly sketched out. The GAA's Strategic Review Committee (SRC) focused on a three-region approach to games development in the county, but with considerably less financial backing than Dublin expected.
The Leinster Council committed €600,000 over three years to the programme with Central Council committing €1.6 million over that time.
The balance of the operating programme was to be drawn from Dublin's own resources and from the Government/Sports Council. The road ahead would see the appointment of a strategic development officer, dedicated coaching, hurling, marketing and regional development officers and 50 coaches of which two thirds would be club based. This would entail an investment of €19.3 million over five years.
Interestingly, at that time, many other counties were trying to make things happen themselves. Limerick, for example, had plans to switch sponsorship from "Red Cow" to an energy drinks company in a three-year-deal believed to be worth almost €1 million, but that was a proposal that did not go down well at a higher level and was abandoned.
POPULATION EXPLOSION
In 2008, John Costello warned that Dublin GAA would become marginalised without the creation of new structures to cater for a ''population explosion'' in the capital and nationwide.
"The future of the GAA is in children — particularly those who are now under 9 years of age," he said. "An examination of figures shows that 55% of this age group resides in Leinster. Dublin, alone, accounts for 24.8% of the population between five and nine-year olds in the 26 counties, with this growing to 26% of those under age 5."


Once more Costello highlighted how those demographics highlighted the significant responsibilities on his administration to manage this population explosion.
The evolution process took another step at this juncture with Dublin appointing games promotion officers, opening schools of excellence and creating training and development systems.
The appointment of those Games Promotion Officers would prove to be a massive success.
SPONSORSHIP
In 2009, the sponsorship model of Dublin GAA changed with Vodafone replacing Arnotts. The deal was estimated to be €800,000 per year, to cover all Dublin teams.
When Vodafone came in, it was to the tune of almost €5m over the next six years but – aside from the cash injection – the new sponsor brought know-how and clout. Vodafone had sponsored huge sports brands like Manchester United, McLaren Formula One and English cricket. Their relationship with Dublin set the Blues on a new path.

POTHOLES
The journey wasn't always straightforward, however.
In 2011, a lack of funding forced Dublin to shelve ambitious plans for a multi-million euro centre of excellence at Rathcoole. A 25-acre plot of land in the area had been in their hands for more than a decade, though planning issues and local objections stopped development work from proceeding.
They hoped the project - which included the construction of four floodlit pitches - would be ready to commence but a lack of financial resources put the project on the long finger as around €8m was required for that centre of excellence.
GPOs
At this stage, through a special budget measure, agreed during the presidency of Sean Kelly, close to €1m a year for the last six years had been given to the GAA by the Irish Sports Council (ISC) to fund the running of projects in Dublin GAA alone.
Much of that funding was badly required, with the GAA fearing that if they lost the battle in the capital, where almost 30% of the country's children were now born, they could eventually lose the war against other sports.
The funding helped coaching in so many ways. There were now close to 50 Games Promotion Officers employed. It was almost on a 'one per club' basis.
Half of the cost of these GPOs was met by the club they were attached to, the rest came from the GAA - through the Sports Council, Leinster Council and Dublin County Board itself.
Some clubs like Kilmacud Crokes and Ballyboden St Enda's, because of their sheer numbers, had a second GPO that they funded entirely themselves.

BLUE WAVE
In 2011, not long after their footballers won their first senior All-Ireland in more than 15 years, the Dubs revealed plans to make their trademark 'blue' colour a byword for success in a novel marketing strategy.
The county released an 86-page strategic plan for 2011-2017, entitled 'The Blue Wave', stating that "blue must become the colour of success" and "evolve as the flagship brand of commercial sport in Ireland".
Many commentators felt the initiative almost pitted Dublin against Leinster Rugby, who wore similar colours and had enjoyed a huge increase in brand awareness.
The wave planned to 'increase annual commercial revenues of the county board by at least €1.5 million over the plan period'.
The document also outlined how Dublin would boldly apply for provincial status 'in terms of funding allocated by Central Council'.
An All-Ireland football title every three years was targeted and plans to develop a new stadium in the capital were again highlighted.
There was much substance in the plan, including developing local and regional plans and appropriate club structures, maximising GAA participation in Dublin, resourcing volunteers with expertise, bridging the gap from participation to the inter-county success, ensuring appropriate facilities, maximising commercial potential, procuring the financial resources necessary and providing a first-class management and governance structure.
Parnell Park, with a capacity of less than 10,000, was now too small to cater for Dublin's games while the Spring Series initiative of that year attracted crowds roughly ranged between 20,000 and 35,000 for the four football games.
Interestingly, only twice that year - the All-Ireland semi-final and final - did Dublin footballers play in front of a full house at Croke Park.

2012
At this point the GAA was very tuned into task of coping with Dublin's growth in population and making sure as many as possible had exposure to Gaelic Games.
President Liam O'Neill told the story of a southside Dublin club which organised a juvenile coaching session in the expectation that 150 kids might turn up, only to be faced with 269 eager youngsters.
In some Dublin clubs, more than 150 children were born in the local area in a 12-month period, O'Neill said. "By contrast, there might be only 250 boys born in the county of Longford in a calendar year," he added.
Census figures revealed that Ireland's population grew by 8.2%, or 348,404 people, between 2006 and 2011, bringing the numbers above 4.5 million. Most significantly, Leinster's population grew by more than 9%.
By April 2011, the province had more than half of all the people in the census with a huge amount of those in the capital.
Attention now turned to helping Dublin clubs cope with meeting demands of new members – and also the challenges of the recession, by helping clubs to repay borrowings undertaken in different economic times.
The county board looked to being in experienced personnel who had taken early retirement from the financial services/accountancy sectors.
COMMERCIAL DRIVE
In 2013, AIG replaced Vodafone as Dublin's main sponsor and the bar raised again.
It prompted Kildare secretary at the time, Kathleen O'Neill, to call for the pooling of individual county board sponsorship deals after Dublin's €4m link with the insurance giants for the coming years.
Needless to say, Dublin felt they should not be criticised for their ability to land record-breaking sponsorship deals.
In 2014, Tomas 'Mossy' ' Quinn was appointed to lead Dublin's drive to boost sponsorship and revenue as he came on board as their first commercial and marketing manager.
Along with around €2m in central funding, huge sponsorship and massive jersey sales, valuable deals were also agreed with kit sponsor O''Neills, mineral water supplier Deep River Rock, Aer Lingus, Renault, and the Gibson Hotel.
Former Ballymun Kickhams player Mike Farnan also played a role as a consultant. Farnan was managing director of Manchester United International, a division of the club set up to grow the brand in Asia and the Middle East in the 1990s.
He has held similar positions with Italian side Parma, La Liga giants Atletico Madrid and, in 2011, became Sunderland's first international marketing director.
In 2014, according to Dublin officials, the county took in between €4.8 million and €5 million a year. The Blue Wave had worked.
Other counties were irked. It led to John Costello holding firm once again at that year's convention.
"Let me set the record straight," he wrote. "The Dublin county committee has no issue with Croke Park offering additional financial support to help so-called weaker counties in their quest to keep pace with the stronger units. But let me be equally blunt: this should not come at a direct monetary cost to Dublin."
Amid calls for funding to be slashed, Dublin star James McCarthy attended a media conference and said money from Croke Park had nothing to do with why they play.
With his father, John, the winner of All-Ireland medals from 1974, 1976 and 1977, James said: "I've grown up in a house where I've three older brothers and my dad — when you're going out the back garden, you're going to sink or swim.
"People have their opinions. It has no effect on the players. We're just trying to win everything we can."
They managed that and benefited off the field too. At that time Dublin announced partnerships with Toyota to provide 16 vehicles to players and management and also linked up with Gourmet Food Parlour, bringing their number of commercial partners to 11 at that time.

ROAD TRIP
In 2016, Dublin had to play their first Championship game outside of Croke Park in a decade after they were handed a road trip to Nowlan Park to play Laois. It made little difference being away from HQ – they won by 11 points.
That same year Meath's double All-Ireland winner Gerry McEntee urged his county board to look for funding from the Irish Sports Council in proportion to the financial support offered to Dublin.
By now the Irish Sports Council was contributing €643,837 towards paying the network of Games Development Officers employed by clubs, down from €1m.
McEntee made a presentation at a recent underage development meeting in Meath and said Meath needed a proportionate amount.
Counties began speaking up on what they perceived as being inequality in GAA funding.
At the unveiling of the GAA's 2015 accounts it was outlined how Dublin received €1.46 million in games development funding — nearly €1.3 million more than Laois who were second in the table.
Current director general Tom Ryan was the GAA's finance director at the time and suggested that equalisation measures were on the way. But the gap was significant.
Dublin senior football manager Jim Gavin came to his county's defence, pointing out that the Sports Council funding was necessary for the health of Gaelic games in the Capital. "The funding has gone into the clubs" he said.
"The intelligent thing that Dublin GAA did is invest in people. And that's what they are doing.
"There is very little capital investment going on in Dublin clubs at the moment. The county board, with that funding, matches it on parity - there's a 50:50 split.
"Having experienced Cumann na mBunscoil, there is still a cohort of teachers there to promote Gaelic games in our schools but the reality is that that is beginning to wane. There is a battle ground being fought by the GAA in Dublin. There are plenty of other outdoor activities that kids can get involved in. We want them to play Gaelic games. It's no different here in Castlebar than in Clondalkin. We need to get out there and invest in our people."
Later that year, the GAA invested €12m in a new state-of-the-art facility located in Abbotstown in the heart of Dublin 15 which would be the principal training facility for the foreseeable future.
The GAA also devoted an extra €1.5m for an initial three years for coaching and games development projects in the main commuter counties outside Dublin - Louth, Kildare, Meath and Wicklow. This was to put more coaches on the ground in an effort to cater for the rapid population growth in these areas.
In 2018, AIG extended its sponsorship for another five years as the footballers continue to dominate, now looking to capture six All-Ireland titles in a row with the likes of Brian Fenton simply not used to losing in his county colours.
Two weeks ago former Westmeath player John Connellan penned a 1500-word open letter to try to restart a serious debate about the GAA's funding model.
That debate has been raging for almost 15 years now.
All that has happened is counties have fallen further behind. The time for action has long since passed. Counties can either wait for something to eventually land in their laps – maybe an extra grant or two here and there - or they can try to forge a new path themselves.
It appears that it will take serious direction, time, visionary individuals, huge resources and patience. With county board officials already stretched in every possible way - not least with the task of fundraising - it's most likely a plan to be conducted with their blessing but separate to the non-stop administrative duties they already face.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sid waddell on December 07, 2020, 03:34:13 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on December 07, 2020, 02:59:40 PM
Urbanisation doesn't help. But how big can Dublin get? How big does it become before the government do something? There's only so much land/houses in Dublin, and future increases in population has implications for all the infrastructure around the city.

Surely incentives are needed for big companies to set up in smaller towns, big building projects in rural Ireland, etc. There's good motorways now, so no reason why towns/villages along those routes can't be focused on and improved. The pandemic has shown people can work at home without living or commuting
Dublin city's geographical footprint is already very big

Lucan can't get much bigger, Tallaght can't get any bigger, the greater Blanchardstown area can't get much bigger, all this land is already built on, the mountains provide a barrier to expansion on the southside

A lot of residential areas in Dublin are becoming or will become quite old in terms of age profile

The Fingal commuter towns are where the real growth in population is happening and will continue to come

But that also means Meath and Kildare's population will continue to grow significantly, probably Louth's and Wicklow's too - in the same way that London has a large commuter belt outside the M25 - people move out when they are priced out - unless there is a systematic change in how land and housing is allocated
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on December 07, 2020, 03:47:13 PM
I suspect the top brass in Croke Pk are praying for a Rhubarb victory so they can put off having to face up to the Inter County SFC problem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ed Ricketts on December 07, 2020, 04:25:46 PM
Of course, Dublin will remain whole for a while yet. Another decade, at least. But you'd really have to have your head up your arse to not see the direction of travel in this over the last three or four years.

The Dublin problem chat was confined to internet backwaters like this place and Ewan MacKenna's twitter feed as recently as 2016/17. Now it's worthy of dedicated segments on the Sunday Game. It's brought up in commentary after each and every routine hammering they dole out. Prominent figures in football are speaking out. It really has become the most prevalent talking point in GAA circles throughout much of the country.

The Dubs will fight their corner well, and will hold off their fate for longer than should be obliged. But change will come. The rest of the country will demand it and will win out.

And they will win out because the GAA, as we know it, cannot survive without the intercounty football championship. And the intercounty football championship cannot survive in a reality where only one team wins anything. Dublin have to concede something - either their success or their singularity - and the machine seems much too productive for it to be the former.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 07, 2020, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 07, 2020, 08:38:38 AM
Des Cahill is a terrible host. I took a dislike to him since he tried to, and more or less did, stitch Eamon O'Hara on controversy with Kevin Walsh to get himself a headline. He tried the same with Donal Og a week later regarding the Cork strike bu Donal Og was too cute. A terrible host.

I didn't watch it but tbh I find RTE analysis very poor in general so usually just record the sunday game and fast forward through it.

I'd agree RTÉ GAA coverage is worse than awful. Des is very sly with the way he tries to grab the attention.

Fair play to Sky for putting the GAA matches on their mix channel I'll be watching the final there and we should get some decent analysis from Canavan, McGuinness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 10, 2022, 02:42:59 PM
Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but have RTÉ and Sky announced their schedule of games for the championship this year?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on April 10, 2022, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 10, 2022, 02:42:59 PM
Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but have RTÉ and Sky announced their schedule of games for the championship this year?
SKY have.

April 16th

LSHC Wexford v Galway

USFC Fermanagh v Tyrone

April 23rd

LSHC Wexford v Dublin

MSHC Limerick v Waterford

April 30th

USFC Monaghan v Down

LSFC Dublin v Offaly/Wexford

May 7th

MSFC Cork v Kerry

May 14th

LSHC Dublin v Kilkenny

May 21st

LSHC Kilkenny v Wexford OR LSHC Galway v Dublin

June 4th

SFC Qualifiers Rd 1

June 11th

SFC Qualifiers Rd 2

SFC Qualifiers Rd 2

June 25th

All Ireland SFC Quarter Final

All Ireland SFC Quarter Final

July 2nd

All Ireland SHC Semi Final

July 3rd

All Ireland SHC Semi Final

July 9th

All Ireland SFC Semi Final

July 10th

All Ireland SFC Semi Final

July 17th

All Ireland SHC Final

July 24th

All Ireland SFC Final
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 10, 2022, 02:58:08 PM
Sky did a few weeks ago, can't recall details but a good few Hurley Provincials.
They have the might not happen Cork/Kerry football though  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 12, 2022, 07:31:25 AM
Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 12, 2022, 08:59:42 AM
And.......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on April 12, 2022, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 12, 2022, 07:31:25 AM
Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Absolutely correct.

Quote from: Rossfan on April 12, 2022, 08:59:42 AM
And.......

and someday it might be Roscommon footballers playing in the Tailteann Cup with zero coverage just like the Roscommon hurlers now.
That'll please sponsors.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on April 12, 2022, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 12, 2022, 07:31:25 AM
Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Yeah, because those counties wouldve been hurling box office before they brought in those pesky tiers. I'd say the matches wouldve been on live with a big build up and everything. What planet are you living on?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 12, 2022, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 12, 2022, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 12, 2022, 07:31:25 AM
Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Yeah, because those counties wouldve been hurling box office before they brought in those pesky tiers. I'd say the matches wouldve been on live with a big build up and everything. What planet are you living on?

True, but the Tailteann cup is different. Down are probably going to be in it. Could you imagine Down v Cavan getting a mention in the results round-up in a few years time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on April 12, 2022, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 12, 2022, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 12, 2022, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 12, 2022, 07:31:25 AM
Hurling championships started last weekend.
Zero coverage

This is where the Tailteann Cup will end up

Yeah, because those counties wouldve been hurling box office before they brought in those pesky tiers. I'd say the matches wouldve been on live with a big build up and everything. What planet are you living on?

True, but the Tailteann cup is different. Down are probably going to be in it. Could you imagine Down v Cavan getting a mention in the results round-up in a few years time.

Derry hurlers have had far more coverage in papers and tv since the tiered system was brought in. It's still not a lot but it's more than before. Down and Cavan have the capacity to bring decent support to their matches and that's why they'll always get decent coverage. That's the difference with the weaker hurling counties. It's not much craic having a live game on with only 50 spectators. A Down Cavan Tailteann Cup final or semi final with with 10,000 at it will get plenty of coverage and deservedly so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 12, 2022, 10:41:27 AM
The Ring/Rackard/Meagher teams are almost all from places where Hurling is a micro sport and as Lenny said never got TV coverage.
Majority of Tailteann Counties are mainly football Counties.
Cast yer minds back to 2019, 2018 and back....
Apart from when Mayowestros were in the early rounds the other 1st/2nd Round Qualifier games used to get about 2 mins coverage between them.
The TC will stand or fall on its own merits not by how much of the games appear on the (awful) Sunday Game night time programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:06:07 AM
From a promotional point of view should the tailteann cup not have been called something like the All ireland plate All ireland Shield  or all ireland intermediate cup or something like that  does having the word all ireland make it sound more important than tailteann cup.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on April 15, 2022, 10:16:30 AM
The GAA have a lot more negotiating power than they use .
The FAI use their international soccer team to gt coverage for the Pisspoor  League of Ireland
like wise the egg chaser have Rte showing France v italy women  live to an audience of about 4 by tying it to the mens national team,
The GAA should insist all gams are shown in tailtean cup if they want the championship coverage.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

Quite a few journalists on Twatter complaining about the new condensed season reasoning the the hurling and football should still be running into late August, lots of kickbacks telling them that there's still plenty of hurling and football going on in the club scene but they're not interested in covering...

Pros and Cons in both arguments..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on April 15, 2022, 02:47:23 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

Quite a few journalists on Twatter complaining about the new condensed season reasoning the the hurling and football should still be running into late August, lots of kickbacks telling them that there's still plenty of hurling and football going on in the club scene but they're not interested in covering...

Pros and Cons in both arguments..

If you are a journalist in a national newspaper then the first round of the Fermanagh championship is not of interest to most of your audience. The GAA should have kept games for national attention, the obvious way to do this would be to stagger the hurling and football seasons, but they won't do this because of a few dozen dual players in the whole country.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on April 15, 2022, 07:24:46 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:06:07 AM
From a promotional point of view should the tailteann cup not have been called something like the All ireland plate All ireland Shield  or all ireland intermediate cup or something like that  does having the word all ireland make it sound more important than tailteann cup.
Yes 100%.  GAA will spend a bit of money marketing it, but nowhere enough to get the masses to pay attention. All Ireland Intermediate (and Junior) was the way to do this, and the GAA public would have 'got it' straight away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on April 15, 2022, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

Quite a few journalists on Twatter complaining about the new condensed season reasoning the the hurling and football should still be running into late August, lots of kickbacks telling them that there's still plenty of hurling and football going on in the club scene but they're not interested in covering...

Pros and Cons in both arguments..
Peak championship this year is mid June to mid July
Every 2 years it will class with a major international soccer tournament.

What is to be said about this year's football turning the qualifiers into a proper competition. No more handy matches against Antrim or Waterford
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2022, 10:25:28 PM
The Sunday Game

What can one say? O'Rourke and Spillane have been stealing a living on it for at least 2 decades.

There should be more former Managers on the panel analyzing games? Managers deal with analysing and thinking about games all the time when they were Managers. They know a lot of players form and their good and bad traits. They know habits of teams. Not all analysists need to have been former great footballers, or even footballers at all.

The coverage of the lesser counties is disgraceful. There are at least half the counties of the country with little or no coverage.

Worse still a game covered live during the day that most GAA fans have already seen often get more highlights air time that evening. In fairness the Highlights show should be totally devoted to showing as much Highlights as possible with analysis left to a minimum!

Positive themes are covered in a blase way, Negative and controversial themes are over-done. It seems to be all about the controversy!

There is no preview show of up-coming games. Rugby do previews all the time.

Post match Fan-zone interviews. Interview fans after the game. Sure there will be daft remarks. But you'll come across knowledgeable fans also.

Most Analysists in the Championship are not at the game and in a Studio in Semple Stadium (for example) watching it on TV if there is a Football game as the early throw in and the Hurling is the later one! Crazy!












Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on April 15, 2022, 11:16:08 PM
To be the contrarian:

Spillane and O'Rourke are very much past their sell by date and then some. But they're exceptionally more interesting to listen to than Cooper, Whelan, Dolan and Cavanagh. Being a good analyst is some part charisma and some part educator. You can't be a  complete drain in either pool, no matter how much water you have in the other. And the "next " generation are a drain on both.

In short RTE need a full clearout. And if that's not an option, then O'Rourke and Spillane are the least of the worries.

—-

Highlights shows in every sport focus on the big game game of the day, which is usually covered live. Just because you've seen it doesn't make it less relevant to their target audience, which is people who haven't seen it, and/or people who want to see it again and listen to what the analysts think.

——

I never want to hear what fans think myself. They are biased and 99% of the time are uncomfortable in front of a camera. This adds nothing.

——

"Lesser" counties present a conundrum.

Here's the bottom line. And it will always be the bottom line. RTE isn't a regional broadcaster. It's a national broadcaster. So when it covers an event, it should have some semblance of a national interest. No harm to "lesser" counties, but if only a couple of thousand (or less) people from your own county can be bothered watching in person.... well ... that's not a national event. If you don't like this train of thought, you've got to realise that your county is the problem, not RTE.

—-

It's not perfect, the Sunday Game. But most of your gripes aren't based on substance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on April 15, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 15, 2022, 11:16:08 PM
It's not perfect, the Sunday Game. But most of your gripes aren't based on substance.

The solution lies partly in some other coverage other than the compressed hour on Sunday night. There must be some scope for a magazine show on Tuesday night at 11 or whatever.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on April 15, 2022, 11:38:44 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on April 15, 2022, 11:16:08 PM
To be the contrarian:

Spillane and O'Rourke are very much past their sell by date and then some. But they're exceptionally more interesting to listen to than Cooper, Whelan, Dolan and Cavanagh. Being a good analyst is some part charisma and some part educator. You can't be a  complete drain in either pool, no matter how much water you have in the other. And the "next " generation are a drain on both.

In short RTE need a full clearout. And if that's not an option, then O'Rourke and Spillane are the least of the worries.

You think? Spillane depends on reciting stats and O'Rourke just depends on lazy analysis.

—-

Highlights shows in every sport focus on the big game game of the day, which is usually covered live. Just because you've seen it doesn't make it less relevant to their target audience, which is people who haven't seen it, and/or people who want to see it again and listen to what the analysts think.

Often the covered game is not the biggest game of the day!

——

I never want to hear what fans think myself. They are biased and 99% of the time are uncomfortable in front of a camera. This adds nothing.

Do you think analysists are not biased?

——

"Lesser" counties present a conundrum.

Here's the bottom line. And it will always be the bottom line. RTE isn't a regional broadcaster. It's a national broadcaster. So when it covers an event, it should have some semblance of a national interest. No harm to "lesser" counties, but if only a couple of thousand (or less) people from your own county can be bothered watching in person.... well ... that's not a national event. If you don't like this train of thought, you've got to realise that your county is the problem, not RTE.

You see this is where RTE misses a trick! RTE can't take on the Netflix and the likes with certain stuff. But they can kick their ass with the regional stuff! Never underestimate this!

—-

It's not perfect, the Sunday Game. But most of your gripes aren't based on substance.

Ah, I was only throwing out a few gripes.....................I'll crawl back into my hole and leave RTE alone!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on April 18, 2022, 07:25:04 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

What did he say
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyrone08 on April 18, 2022, 08:02:26 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

Players can be attacked so why not a ref?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on April 18, 2022, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

Hyperbole much?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on April 18, 2022, 10:00:31 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

Cavanagh was correct in calling out McQuillan.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on April 18, 2022, 10:08:43 AM
Cavanagh is the most stone coke useless pundit in the game, which is really quite some achievement
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael80 on April 18, 2022, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

I didn't see or hear the comments, and it's important there are no personal attacks on refs or anyone in the GAA for that matter, if that is what happened.  There is growing unease though about the inconsistency of how games are reported, and how actions are taken against certain counties.

Canavan appeared to want to vent on Saturday evening as well, McGuinness did well to side track the discussion. If the Sunday Game allowed Cavanagh to give his views and it wasn't personal I think that is a good thing. Discipline and reporting on incidents are important, but it needs to happen across the board to stop this growing resentment. I don't blame the refs, I blame the narrative that has been allowed to develop which in my opinion leads certain counties to be treated more harshly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

Calm down, much much worse said about players (Cavanagh being the most glaring example) and similar remarks made about refs in the past.

I don't think Cavanagh is a fantastic pundit if I'm honest, he gets too partisan when it comes to Tyrone (I can understand why though), but I don't think he's any different from Spillane on that front and I am not overly impressed with any of the other pundits, though I don't watch all the time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Whishtup on April 18, 2022, 12:12:57 PM
I find it bizarre that, even when there was a zoomed replay of the hand in the face/eye area by the Fermanagh player, most of the talk was about the other shenanigans. Imagine the narrative if a Tyrone player did that?  Ref's have to be held accountable for their actions and Cavanagh, being from a county at the receiving end of some daft decisions recently, voiced the frustrations of the county.  All people want is consistency and a level playing field. The GAA need to figure out how they can deliver this. All other sports using video evidence now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 18, 2022, 12:29:11 PM
He's openly biased, bit like pat but if you commenting on games you need to be neutral
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 18, 2022, 12:46:08 PM
The Fermanagh player will be banned but then instances with hand in face should be a 2/3 match band, same in Derry/Galway game recently.What  McKenna done was dangerous play and on that he deserved a red card. Ref report will say what he's been carded for. I always think the refs committee should explain carding decisions mid week after a game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.

Hard to disagree.

I suspect McKenna will be cleared this time though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fuzzman on April 18, 2022, 12:59:44 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: delgany on April 18, 2022, 12:59:54 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.

Hard to disagree.

I suspect McKenna will be cleared this time though

I thought Fermanagh No 7 kicked it all off, by attempting to /sticking his knee into Conn Kilpatricks back, followed by the hand in the face!   
No one booked for this.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 01:05:23 PM
Quote from: delgany on April 18, 2022, 12:59:54 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.

Hard to disagree.

I suspect McKenna will be cleared this time though

I thought Fermanagh No 7 kicked it all off, by attempting to /sticking his knee into Conn Kilpatricks back, followed by the hand in the face!   
No one booked for this.

Maybe the referee didn't see it. I only noticed on TV replay
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on April 18, 2022, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

The failure to release the ball was the start of it. Many of these incidents start with someone lying on the ball after the whistle has been blown. In real-time, the ref may not have seen the hand in the face but could see someone running in. Kavanagh seemed to imply on the Sunday Game that you get a free pass to run in if you think you see some getting a rap, but as self-defence does not excuse you in any rule.
In the hurling discussion,  Dónal Óg Cusack quoted Confucious (hurling pundits are more erudite) "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves". Teams need to cool the jets and let the other team take the rap on the Sunday Game rather than piling in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on April 18, 2022, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.

Hard to disagree.

I suspect McKenna will be cleared this time though

I'll be surprised if he's cleared. He was sent off for the MMA style take down. Why he felt he needed to react in that manner only he knows.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2022, 02:20:26 PM
He took the legs from under someone though. That is entirely different from a headlock that could wreck someone's neck.

If the red sticks then retrospectively some Fermanagh players need to see red. Honestly very harsh. You can't leave your own player in a scenario like that with no backup. If a ref has control it doesn't happen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 18, 2022, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.

Hard to disagree.

I suspect McKenna will be cleared this time though

I'll be surprised if he's cleared. He was sent off for the MMA style take down. Why he felt he needed to react in that manner only he knows.

He was being assaulted by two players and tried to defend himself, surely you are allowed to do that. Big difference in giving as good as you gt and trying to stop an attack on yourself by two players.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on April 18, 2022, 04:15:22 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 18, 2022, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 12:06:53 PM
Thought Cavanagh walked a tight line on his referee comments. Whether he overstepped the mark is a matter of opinion.

For what it matters his defence of McKenna was very forceful. The problem I had with overall discussion was that it suggested it was OK to come in and back up a team mate. Not only is that what starts a melee but if the rules do not allow you to defend yourself they can hardly allow you to defend a team mate.

There also seemed to be an agenda to blame Fermanagh for starting things - and the hand in face did not look good - but the simple fact is that if the Tyrone player had have released the ball when the referee blew his whistle then none of this would have happened.

In the end no matter what people think of the referee players caused the problem and he was probably under pressure to act in line with previous episodes.  We all asked for consistency after all.

I think a lot of this is coloured by the teams. If it was Conor McKenna or another Tyrone player who had their hands in someone's face, there would have been much more discussion of that and probably that he should have the book thrown at him. Similar the other players who were the aggressors on the Fermanagh side. I think this is as much down to Tyrone being a high profile team and Fermanagh not being high profile.

I think your point about releasing the ball could make sense, but the Fermanagh players didn't seem interested in the ball and it seemed to have started with a Fermanagh player pulling at his collar, him then ending on the floor, then seemed to get a dig when on the ground, then he grabbed a leg and then they both set about him.

I can understand your point about players backing each other up, but I think this case where a player is in a vulnerable position on the ground with two players on top of him with one putting his hands in the vicinity of his eyes is a different matter than the usual tiddly winks that goes on.

It could be interpreted as a red, from what the rules say. But, it's about contributing to a melee, surely the two players who went at McKenna should also have seen red. Again, the application doesn't seem to be consistent to my eyes.

Hard to disagree.

I suspect McKenna will be cleared this time though

I'll be surprised if he's cleared. He was sent off for the MMA style take down. Why he felt he needed to react in that manner only he knows.

He was being assaulted by two players and tried to defend himself, surely you are allowed to do that. Big difference in giving as good as you gt and trying to stop an attack on yourself by two players.

Those assaults as you called them weren't deemed red card offences, would be the same for Mckenna but for some reason he thought he was involved in MMA fight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2022, 04:39:35 PM
He pulled the legs from under him. Not striking or not likely to cause damage. I get the headlocks are dangerous thing but this wasn't that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ed Ricketts on April 18, 2022, 04:42:48 PM
There's a dig to the Fermanagh man's head after the take down. Stone wall one game ban for that.

Fermanagh number 5 (McMahon?) should be in trouble too. Hand all over Kilpatrick's face, and then, when Kilpatrick flips him and gets on top, there's nasty grab of the stones. Dirty hoor.

Fermanagh 7 (McCusker?) defo gives Kilpatrick a dunt in the back at the start of the whole thing. Harmless enough, but he couldn't have many complaints if called out on it.

Kilpatrick could've helped matters by releasing the ball earlier, even allowing for the fact he was on the receiving end of a sneaky boot. This macho holding onto the ball stuff adds fuel to a lot of these sorts of incidents. Black cards might be a solution to this type of shithousery.

Just stupid stuff all round. No one looks hard. No one really helped out a team mate under 'assault'. And anyone that gets suspended as a result should suck it up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing
I'm not saying there is. But "MMA" - take a redner ffs.

When did I mention MMA?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on April 18, 2022, 05:03:41 PM
Holding onto the ball????  Jesus lads if people are getting in trouble for holding onto the ball there'll be no one left to play football at the end of the summer.  Happens umpteen times in every single game around the country
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing

What rule is there against grabbing a players legs?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 18, 2022, 05:56:21 PM
Somebody said here lifting a man up by the legs and taking him down not dangerous, it's one of the most dangerous things in fball, you actually rarely see see it, red many a time in rubgy if the lad  tipped over the imaginary horizonal. As for been assaulting by 2men, don't think you lads been on the receiving of a actual assault, otherwise you know what the f**k you actually talking about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing

What rule is there against grabbing a players legs?

Deliberate trip...black card  8)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tyrone08 on April 18, 2022, 06:35:06 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 18, 2022, 05:56:21 PM
Somebody said here lifting a man up by the legs and taking him down not dangerous, it's one of the most dangerous things in fball, you actually rarely see see it, red many a time in rubgy if the lad  tipped over the imaginary horizonal. As for been assaulting by 2men, don't think you lads been on the receiving of a actual assault, otherwise you know what the f**k you actually talking about.

😒Clearly no one meant it was a real physical assault as in a kickin as you see on the streets. Didnt think it would have to be spelled out  but there you go.

However he was dragged around by the neck of the jersey by 2 men which is assault
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2022, 07:24:56 PM
The McKenna 'dump' (as some seem to be calling it) is hard to make out. He seemed to be him trying to stop the other buck and get to his feet using your man's legs. The other fella pulling at him seemed to unbalance him and meant the fella ended up on the floor.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing

What rule is there against grabbing a players legs?

Deliberate trip...black card  8)

Exactly, not a red card offence.

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 18, 2022, 05:56:21 PM
Somebody said here lifting a man up by the legs and taking him down not dangerous, it's one of the most dangerous things in fball, you actually rarely see see it, red many a time in rubgy if the lad  tipped over the imaginary horizonal. As for been assaulting by 2men, don't think you lads been on the receiving of a actual assault, otherwise you know what the f**k you actually talking about.

So are you saying that the two Fermanagh lads did nothing wrong and McKenna did?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on April 18, 2022, 07:56:01 PM
Instead of polluting 3 or 4 threads could the Mods maybe open up an Ulster Melees thread and move all posts about the regular gobsh1tery into it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 18, 2022, 08:26:11 PM
Some yous Ros ones went on a bit about your match with Derry to be fair. Still girnin a month later ffs 😂
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on April 18, 2022, 10:44:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing

What rule is there against grabbing a players legs?

Deliberate trip...black card  8)

Exactly, not a red card offence.


Category lll infraction

5.17 To behave in any way which is dangerous to an
opponent.

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOUL -
(i) Order offender off.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 18, 2022, 10:44:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing

What rule is there against grabbing a players legs?

Deliberate trip...black card  8)

Exactly, not a red card offence.


Category lll infraction

5.17 To behave in any way which is dangerous to an
opponent.

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOUL -
(i) Order offender off.

What does 'dangerous to an opponent' actually mean?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on April 20, 2022, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 11:03:23 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 18, 2022, 10:44:58 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 07:39:36 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 06:00:59 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 18, 2022, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on April 18, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 18, 2022, 04:20:41 PM
MMA hyperbole alert. He grabbed someone who was attacking him by the legs to make him fall over. A fairly basic and instinctive thing to do.

Problem is there is no rule that allows self defence- even if you think that is what he was doing

What rule is there against grabbing a players legs?

Deliberate trip...black card  8)

Exactly, not a red card offence.


Category lll infraction

5.17 To behave in any way which is dangerous to an
opponent.

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOUL -
(i) Order offender off.

What does 'dangerous to an opponent' actually mean?
FWIW in soccer it's defined as being careless (perhaps a foul but nothing more), reckless (yellow card) or using excessive force (red card) means that the player has far exceeded the necessary
use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oakleaflad on May 02, 2022, 09:39:17 AM
Quick question folks. Missed The Sunday Game last night. Checked the RTE Player this morning but it doesn't appear to be available. Do we know if it does be uploaded to the player?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on May 02, 2022, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 02, 2022, 09:39:17 AM
Quick question folks. Missed The Sunday Game last night. Checked the RTE Player this morning but it doesn't appear to be available. Do we know if it does be uploaded to the player?
It does be on player. But prob not so soon after. Might be there this evening.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oakleaflad on May 02, 2022, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on May 02, 2022, 09:55:16 AM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 02, 2022, 09:39:17 AM
Quick question folks. Missed The Sunday Game last night. Checked the RTE Player this morning but it doesn't appear to be available. Do we know if it does be uploaded to the player?
It does be on player. But prob not so soon after. Might be there this evening.
Thank you
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on May 09, 2022, 07:24:20 AM
Sean Cavanagh must be the worst pundit ever on the sunday game. He offers nothing in terms of analysis but it's his pathetic attempts at humour which is very off putting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 07:26:11 AM
What's the saying... if he were a lollipop he'd eat himself  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rudi on May 09, 2022, 07:35:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 07:26:11 AM
What's the saying... if he were a lollipop he'd eat himself  ;D

Lick himself
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on May 09, 2022, 07:50:00 AM
Suck himself
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
Like I just don't get it. The technical crews are hired in and the team behind the cameras are nearly all the same no matter what channel and they all cost a fair whack BUT for some reason RTÉ let their pundits half-arse it.
Like in Cavan v Donegal I was subjected to Pat blowing again and Noelle Healy being shouted down by the same fella. Like she can be good but no-one can work with Spillane and he says nothing.

Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.

Also, they are talking about long balls in. At least one of the Donegal 'long balls' in was a shot at goal that dropped. But they assigned it as a tactic.

Like all that set-up costs a fortune and I can't understand why they have the likes of Pat on to make a bollix of it all and give no insight. I know ya can't know every player but pick up the phone and chat a local journo if needs be. Find things out.

I can't listen to Cora either and Dessie Dolan on co-comms literally just says what we just saw. A lad kicks a pint..."that's right Marty. He got the ball and out it over the bar!"

Darragh and Eamon Fitz are a good team in fairness, but Christ. They need a cull or give lads a kick up the arse.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 09, 2022, 12:09:24 PM
McStay's contributions and presence was totally pointless yesterday.
"The next score is vital" when the teams were level in the second half.
I'd never gave guessed ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on May 09, 2022, 12:21:23 PM
Commentary and "analysis" is piss poor. They are meant to be experts, so if you're analysing a game you need to be telling people something that any person with eyes that knows nothing about football can see for themselves. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 12:30:03 PM
Exactly. Like if a cameraman was all over the shop and doing a terrible job they would be pulled up and get the road. Why, after all the money spent, do they allow awful standards on the mic and in front of the camera.

Just feckin poach some lads doing podcasts. The likes of Cian Ward has a good head on him and actually sticks to his guns.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2022, 12:35:43 PM
If it was that easy then any old gaa boarder would be applying...

You'd be surprised at how quiet you become when someone sticks a mic in your gub!

Granted him and a few others are stealing a living but its not just as easy as you think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: God14 on May 09, 2022, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
Like I just don't get it. The technical crews are hired in and the team behind the cameras are nearly all the same no matter what channel and they all cost a fair whack BUT for some reason RTÉ let their pundits half-arse it.
Like in Cavan v Donegal I was subjected to Pat blowing again and Noelle Healy being shouted down by the same fella. Like she can be good but no-one can work with Spillane and he says nothing.

Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.

Also, they are talking about long balls in. At least one of the Donegal 'long balls' in was a shot at goal that dropped. But they assigned it as a tactic.

Like all that set-up costs a fortune and I can't understand why they have the likes of Pat on to make a bollix of it all and give no insight. I know ya can't know every player but pick up the phone and chat a local journo if needs be. Find things out.

I can't listen to Cora either and Dessie Dolan on co-comms literally just says what we just saw. A lad kicks a pint..."that's right Marty. He got the ball and out it over the bar!"

Darragh and Eamon Fitz are a good team in fairness, but Christ. They need a cull or give lads a kick up the arse.

Tomas O'Se was one of the better ones over the past few years, he's decided to move on. There has been a complete lack of imagination by the producers in their response. There is some top class punditry out there on the radio & on the podcasts, just waiting to be tapped into.
Also RTE only have to look at BBC just now to work out how to get it right. Canavan, Harte and in particular McConville - top drawer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 09, 2022, 12:48:01 PM
Whens the last time Pat was part of the commentary team at a match? I would say it was years ago and yet for Sligo v New York he was in the commentary box. I wonder would it have anything to do with getting a free flight to New York to see his son make his championship debut with Sligo? Sure he nearly had a breakdown when he came on - it was embarrassing stuff. Yet thats what RTE is all about, jobs for the boys. They are pathetic, barely one of their commentators or pundits has a clue what is going on.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on May 09, 2022, 12:51:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2022, 12:35:43 PM
If it was that easy then any old gaa boarder would be applying...

You'd be surprised at how quiet you become when someone sticks a mic in your gub!

Granted him and a few others are stealing a living but its not just as easy as you think.
I'd be happy if the likes of Spillane would be quiet when theres a mic in his gub! ;)

Think McConville and Canavan are very good. Aaron Kernan another fella who always speaks well when I hear him talk about games, very knowledgable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 09, 2022, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 09, 2022, 12:48:01 PM
Whens the last time Pat was part of the commentary team at a match? I would say it was years ago and yet for Sligo v New York he was in the commentary box. I wonder would it have anything to do with getting a free flight to New York to see his son make his championship debut with Sligo? Sure he nearly had a breakdown when he came on - it was embarrassing stuff. Yet thats what RTE is all about, jobs for the boys. They are pathetic, barely one of their commentators or pundits has a clue what is going on.

Spillane clearly had a big session the night before. The man was in commentary panting like an alsation after a sprint. He absolutely no doubt got the free junket simply because his son was playing for Sligo. There's a real you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours mentality about RTE. It's not merit based, it's based on connections.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 09, 2022, 01:01:48 PM
It's shockingly poor. Noelle Healey is on there to tick a box, nobody know her or much cares about her opinion a she ticks the Dublin box too. Spillane does be spluttering gibberish. Joanne is okay I suppose when you compare her to the awful Des Cahill.

Then we get Cavanagh, who I agree is an awful pundit  when usually the pundits are fairly good from Ulster (BBC NI). Cavanagh is he given free reign now because of the Joe Brolly incident? He was a great player but he's a poor pundit but  I imagine he'll be there for the long haul.

Gooch Cooper is a fairly boring pundit also. So yesterday we get 3 Dubs ,2 Kerry and Cavanagh for an Ulster Semi final. Tired saying there's too many Dubs and Kerry on all these shows.

Why can BBC NI, Sky, Newstalk and most of the podcasts all do a decent job on less of a budget and with less matches than RTE? They're just half arsing it and doing GAA no favours.

I forgot McStay another bluffer that's spoofing half the time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 09, 2022, 01:04:55 PM
What ever happened to Eamonn O'Hara? He used to do bits for RTE. Ciaran Whelan is being pushed out a bit too, ironically he can actually be decent when Dublin are not involved because unlike the rest the does some homework. I've listen to him on RTE GAA podcast and he isn't the worst.

It's totally changed since Brolly was removed and the Monaghan man took over. I think RTE are so afraid of being sued now they don't want their pundits to offer anything but the safest bland opinion and statements.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on May 09, 2022, 01:13:02 PM
Gooch is a very good pundit imo
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
Like I just don't get it. The technical crews are hired in and the team behind the cameras are nearly all the same no matter what channel and they all cost a fair whack BUT for some reason RTÉ let their pundits half-arse it.
Like in Cavan v Donegal I was subjected to Pat blowing again and Noelle Healy being shouted down by the same fella. Like she can be good but no-one can work with Spillane and he says nothing.

Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.

Also, they are talking about long balls in. At least one of the Donegal 'long balls' in was a shot at goal that dropped. But they assigned it as a tactic.

Like all that set-up costs a fortune and I can't understand why they have the likes of Pat on to make a bollix of it all and give no insight. I know ya can't know every player but pick up the phone and chat a local journo if needs be. Find things out.

I can't listen to Cora either and Dessie Dolan on co-comms literally just says what we just saw. A lad kicks a pint..."that's right Marty. He got the ball and out it over the bar!"

Darragh and Eamon Fitz are a good team in fairness, but Christ. They need a cull or give lads a kick up the arse.

Spillane offers nothing in analysing games. His party piece is team average scores in league games.  Little knowledge of players out D1 teams. Crazy he must be with RTE nearly 30 years. Sky Sports and BBC analysts way ahead of RTE. Pundits do their research and update to date on modern systems. No hidden agendas.

Before the Donegal/Cavan game. Marty Morrissey said he never seen Paddy Lynch play before. Spillane said watched Cavan 3 times(one when his son was playing). Surely he should be looking at the other 7 games they played to get a take on Cavan tactics.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2022, 01:43:30 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
Like I just don't get it. The technical crews are hired in and the team behind the cameras are nearly all the same no matter what channel and they all cost a fair whack BUT for some reason RTÉ let their pundits half-arse it.
Like in Cavan v Donegal I was subjected to Pat blowing again and Noelle Healy being shouted down by the same fella. Like she can be good but no-one can work with Spillane and he says nothing.

Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.

Also, they are talking about long balls in. At least one of the Donegal 'long balls' in was a shot at goal that dropped. But they assigned it as a tactic.

Like all that set-up costs a fortune and I can't understand why they have the likes of Pat on to make a bollix of it all and give no insight. I know ya can't know every player but pick up the phone and chat a local journo if needs be. Find things out.

I can't listen to Cora either and Dessie Dolan on co-comms literally just says what we just saw. A lad kicks a pint..."that's right Marty. He got the ball and out it over the bar!"

Darragh and Eamon Fitz are a good team in fairness, but Christ. They need a cull or give lads a kick up the arse.

Spillane offers nothing in analysing games. His party piece is team average scores in league games.  Little knowledge of players out D1 teams. Crazy he must be with RTE nearly 30 years. Sky Sports and BBC analysts way ahead of RTE. Pundits do their research and update to date on modern systems. No hidden agendas.

Before the Donegal/Cavan game. Marty Morrissey said he never seen Paddy Lynch play before. Spillane said watched Cavan 3 times(one when his son was playing). Surely he should be looking at the other 7 games they played to get a take on Cavan tactics.

In fairness to watching Cavan, they played completely different football in the Championship and the league and even the 2 Ulster games they played with a different set up...

Can anyone tell me when they are going to sit/stand a lot closer together at the games and in the studio? Christ its as if they have bad BO
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TyroneOnlooker on May 09, 2022, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: God14 on May 09, 2022, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
Like I just don't get it. The technical crews are hired in and the team behind the cameras are nearly all the same no matter what channel and they all cost a fair whack BUT for some reason RTÉ let their pundits half-arse it.
Like in Cavan v Donegal I was subjected to Pat blowing again and Noelle Healy being shouted down by the same fella. Like she can be good but no-one can work with Spillane and he says nothing.

Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.

Also, they are talking about long balls in. At least one of the Donegal 'long balls' in was a shot at goal that dropped. But they assigned it as a tactic.

Like all that set-up costs a fortune and I can't understand why they have the likes of Pat on to make a bollix of it all and give no insight. I know ya can't know every player but pick up the phone and chat a local journo if needs be. Find things out.

I can't listen to Cora either and Dessie Dolan on co-comms literally just says what we just saw. A lad kicks a pint..."that's right Marty. He got the ball and out it over the bar!"

Darragh and Eamon Fitz are a good team in fairness, but Christ. They need a cull or give lads a kick up the arse.

Tomas O'Se was one of the better ones over the past few years, he's decided to move on. There has been a complete lack of imagination by the producers in their response. There is some top class punditry out there on the radio & on the podcasts, just waiting to be tapped into.
Also RTE only have to look at BBC just now to work out how to get it right. Canavan, Harte and in particular McConville - top drawer.

Have to say I've been completely won over by the BBCNI coverage. Far superior, better pundits, better discussion. RTE feels like it hasn't changed in 20 years, same old faces (bar Brolly)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 01:54:26 PM
But even Brolly was a dose at times. When he focused on the games he was good, but then he would go off on one.
There is zero homework done and they are getting a few quid.

Sky and BBC are so far ahead, but as I said the technical crew are the same really. Like I said, clean house and raid the podcasts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cavan19 on May 09, 2022, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: TyroneOnlooker on May 09, 2022, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: God14 on May 09, 2022, 12:40:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
Like I just don't get it. The technical crews are hired in and the team behind the cameras are nearly all the same no matter what channel and they all cost a fair whack BUT for some reason RTÉ let their pundits half-arse it.
Like in Cavan v Donegal I was subjected to Pat blowing again and Noelle Healy being shouted down by the same fella. Like she can be good but no-one can work with Spillane and he says nothing.

Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.

Also, they are talking about long balls in. At least one of the Donegal 'long balls' in was a shot at goal that dropped. But they assigned it as a tactic.

Like all that set-up costs a fortune and I can't understand why they have the likes of Pat on to make a bollix of it all and give no insight. I know ya can't know every player but pick up the phone and chat a local journo if needs be. Find things out.

I can't listen to Cora either and Dessie Dolan on co-comms literally just says what we just saw. A lad kicks a pint..."that's right Marty. He got the ball and out it over the bar!"

Darragh and Eamon Fitz are a good team in fairness, but Christ. They need a cull or give lads a kick up the arse.

Tomas O'Se was one of the better ones over the past few years, he's decided to move on. There has been a complete lack of imagination by the producers in their response. There is some top class punditry out there on the radio & on the podcasts, just waiting to be tapped into.
Also RTE only have to look at BBC just now to work out how to get it right. Canavan, Harte and in particular McConville - top drawer.

Have to say I've been completely won over by the BBCNI coverage. Far superior, better pundits, better discussion. RTE feels like it hasn't changed in 20 years, same old faces (bar Brolly)

Agreed they know all the players and can give a good honest assessment of the game.  RTE pundits and commentators just seem to be going through the motions like its just a job to them the BBC lads are all football mad people who enjoy what they do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on May 09, 2022, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Before the Donegal/Cavan game. Marty Morrissey said he never seen Paddy Lynch play before. Spillane said watched Cavan 3 times(one when his son was playing). Surely he should be looking at the other 7 games they played to get a take on Cavan tactics.

He said it in a way that he was proud of the fact he'd never watched him. Marty is a bluffer same as most of them. In fairness to RTE they have the best commentary duo in Maloney & Fitzmaurice. They should be given every big game between now and the end of the season but I doubt it. But in terms of pre, HT and post match BBC and Sky are absolutely light years ahead of RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on May 09, 2022, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 09, 2022, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Before the Donegal/Cavan game. Marty Morrissey said he never seen Paddy Lynch play before. Spillane said watched Cavan 3 times(one when his son was playing). Surely he should be looking at the other 7 games they played to get a take on Cavan tactics.

He said it in a way that he was proud of the fact he'd never watched him. Marty is a bluffer same as most of them. In fairness to RTE they have the best commentary duo in Maloney & Fitzmaurice. They should be given every big game between now and the end of the season but I doubt it. But in terms of pre, HT and post match BBC and Sky are absolutely light years ahead of RTE.
Maloney is very good. While Eamon knows his stuff his voice he could put you to sleep. If a game is on bbc I will watch it over rte. Thomas Niblock is very good.  Bbc miles ahead. Sky have upped their game.much better than what they started out with. The rugby lad seems to be gone and the current presenter seems to know about the game unlike the one they started with.  Tg4 deserves  a mention just for their overall coverage and highlights programmes. Much better than rte.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 09, 2022, 02:24:18 PM
Sky presenter is Grainne McElwain from Monaghan, she's very good and improvement on the previous presenters on Sky.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 09, 2022, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Before the Donegal/Cavan game. Marty Morrissey said he never seen Paddy Lynch play before. Spillane said watched Cavan 3 times(one when his son was playing). Surely he should be looking at the other 7 games they played to get a take on Cavan tactics.

He said it in a way that he was proud of the fact he'd never watched him. Marty is a bluffer same as most of them. In fairness to RTE they have the best commentary duo in Maloney & Fitzmaurice. They should be given every big game between now and the end of the season but I doubt it. But in terms of pre, HT and post match BBC and Sky are absolutely light years ahead of RTE.

Agree on Maloney/Fitzmaurice. Fitz gave a good insight to Galway/Mayo game and very knowledgeable about the players backgrounds.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 02:24:18 PM
Sky presenter is Grainne McElwain from Monaghan, she's very good and improvement on the previous presenters on Sky.

Does she commentate on TG4 too? Excellent presenter, way ahead of Cantwell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 09, 2022, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 01:35:04 PM
Before the Donegal/Cavan game. Marty Morrissey said he never seen Paddy Lynch play before. Spillane said watched Cavan 3 times(one when his son was playing). Surely he should be looking at the other 7 games they played to get a take on Cavan tactics.

He said it in a way that he was proud of the fact he'd never watched him. Marty is a bluffer same as most of them. In fairness to RTE they have the best commentary duo in Maloney & Fitzmaurice. They should be given every big game between now and the end of the season but I doubt it. But in terms of pre, HT and post match BBC and Sky are absolutely light years ahead of RTE.

Agree on Maloney/Fitzmaurice. Fitz gave a good insight to Galway/Mayo game and very knowledgeable about the players backgrounds.

And then Pat talked about Forest Gump, the girl from the fairytale to who when she was good she was very very good and then proceeded to name the wrong Galway goalscorer.
Like the whole production is being let down by that stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 02:29:49 PM
It's been like that for years. Analysis in so many other sports is great - and even the hurling analysis if pretty good - but it's like some of these ones are untouchable national treasures or something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 09, 2022, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 12:30:03 PM
Exactly. Like if a cameraman was all over the shop and doing a terrible job they would be pulled up and get the road. Why, after all the money spent, do they allow awful standards on the mic and in front of the camera.

Just feckin poach some lads doing podcasts. The likes of Cian Ward has a good head on him and actually sticks to his guns.

Ok Cian.  :)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2022, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 02:29:49 PM
It's been like that for years. Analysis in so many other sports is great - and even the hurling analysis if pretty good - but it's like some of these ones are untouchable national treasures or something.

Got back from the game yesterday had the games recorded and watched them without the crap analysis, I can judge the game myself. fast forwarding through the shite is the way to go, though you need to turn off your phone  ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 09, 2022, 02:43:25 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 01:04:55 PM
What ever happened to Eamonn O'Hara? He used to do bits for RTE. Ciaran Whelan is being pushed out a bit too, ironically he can actually be decent when Dublin are not involved because unlike the rest the does some homework. I've listen to him on RTE GAA podcast and he isn't the worst.

It's totally changed since Brolly was removed and the Monaghan man took over. I think RTE are so afraid of being sued now they don't want their pundits to offer anything but the safest bland opinion and statements.

I think O'Hara is still on RTÉ radio covering games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 02:44:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2022, 02:29:49 PM
It's been like that for years. Analysis in so many other sports is great - and even the hurling analysis if pretty good - but it's like some of these ones are untouchable national treasures or something.

Hurling analysists have come and gone. Spillane & O'Rourke there too long. Spillane retired with kerry in 91, O'Rourke retired in 95 and both went straight into punditry and both have columns with sunday papers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on May 09, 2022, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 11:14:12 AM


Then McStay just kept saying Division 4 v Division 1 and harping back to Cavan 2020. And 'the sub' scored the Donegal goal. FFS you are being paid and there is a programme in front of you.


and Marty saying that the lad "pulled on it", must have forgotten himself.

;D



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 09, 2022, 04:18:53 PM
I wouldn't be too worried about the discussions etc.

Just take it as it comes - don't take it too seriously.

Just watch the game yourself, analyse it yourself and take it from there.

Put it like this, if it was the only game on tv, I'm not switching it over or turning it off because of the commentary/analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 09, 2022, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 02:24:18 PM
Sky presenter is Grainne McElwain from Monaghan, she's very good and improvement on the previous presenters on Sky.

Does she commentate on TG4 too? Excellent presenter, way ahead of Cantwell.

I'm not sure don't know much of TG4 team but she is an Irish speaker apparently so may do.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 09, 2022, 05:53:31 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 09, 2022, 02:43:25 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 01:04:55 PM
What ever happened to Eamonn O'Hara? He used to do bits for RTE. Ciaran Whelan is being pushed out a bit too, ironically he can actually be decent when Dublin are not involved because unlike the rest the does some homework. I've listen to him on RTE GAA podcast and he isn't the worst.

It's totally changed since Brolly was removed and the Monaghan man took over. I think RTE are so afraid of being sued now they don't want their pundits to offer anything but the safest bland opinion and statements.

I think O'Hara is still on RTÉ radio covering games.

Interesting I would rarely have games on from radio, I noticed he was on Off the Ball recently.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 09, 2022, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 02:24:18 PM
Sky presenter is Grainne McElwain from Monaghan, she's very good and improvement on the previous presenters on Sky.

Does she commentate on TG4 too? Excellent presenter, way ahead of Cantwell.

I'm not sure don't know much of TG4 team but she is an Irish speaker apparently so may do.

I think she was presenter on TG4 for the ladies games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 09, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 01:54:26 PM
But even Brolly was a dose at times. When he focused on the games he was good, but then he would go off on one.
There is zero homework done and they are getting a few quid.

Sky and BBC are so far ahead, but as I said the technical crew are the same really. Like I said, clean house and raid the podcasts.
I miss aul Jimmy Smyth all the same.  He was great on BBC. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2022, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 09, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 01:54:26 PM
But even Brolly was a dose at times. When he focused on the games he was good, but then he would go off on one.
There is zero homework done and they are getting a few quid.

Sky and BBC are so far ahead, but as I said the technical crew are the same really. Like I said, clean house and raid the podcasts.
I miss aul Jimmy Smyth all the same.  He was great on BBC.

He was a co-commentator on some of the Beosport Ulster GAA games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 09, 2022, 08:41:05 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 09, 2022, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 09, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 01:54:26 PM
But even Brolly was a dose at times. When he focused on the games he was good, but then he would go off on one.
There is zero homework done and they are getting a few quid.

Sky and BBC are so far ahead, but as I said the technical crew are the same really. Like I said, clean house and raid the podcasts.
I miss aul Jimmy Smyth all the same.  He was great on BBC.

He was a co-commentator on some of the Beosport Ulster GAA games
Didn't know that.  He put down the BBC mic too soon.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on May 09, 2022, 10:10:47 PM
Des Cahill introduced Cavan Donegal last night saying that Donegal wouldn't forget the game in 2020 when Cavan bet them after Donegal had the game wrapped up. What the hell, not even a second cousin of reality. Then Cavanagh and the Gooch stood up for analysis so Cavanagh could put a box in front of the Cavan goal and look at it for a few minutes. Awful,awful stuff. In the Antrim game highlights they got a lot of the Cavan players names wrong. Amateur stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 09, 2022, 10:22:55 PM
For fear of jinxing the whole lot - as he hasn't been heard this year yet - but has Dessie Dolan stood down?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 09, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
Days of outspoken 'personality pundits' over – we've evolved, says RTE's head of sport

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/8754625/rte-gobby-personality-pundits-over-legends-change

The man in charge sums up the new culture change. I don't agree with him about what's replaced it however. No more "personality pundits". So I guess bland nothing punditry is hear to stay on RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on May 10, 2022, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 09, 2022, 10:22:55 PM
For fear of jinxing the whole lot - as he hasn't been heard this year yet - but has Dessie Dolan stood down?

He selector for Westmeath..Hopefully he doesn't reappear when Westmeath finish up.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2022, 10:37:09 AM
The Michael Owen of the sunday game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on May 10, 2022, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 09, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 01:54:26 PM
But even Brolly was a dose at times. When he focused on the games he was good, but then he would go off on one.
There is zero homework done and they are getting a few quid.

Sky and BBC are so far ahead, but as I said the technical crew are the same really. Like I said, clean house and raid the podcasts.
I miss aul Jimmy Smyth all the same.  He was great on BBC.

Absolute class act is Jimmy Smyth, still going on various fringe games, should be doing high profile Ulster games
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: laceer on May 10, 2022, 01:44:11 PM
Quote from: tiempo on May 10, 2022, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 09, 2022, 08:07:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2022, 01:54:26 PM
But even Brolly was a dose at times. When he focused on the games he was good, but then he would go off on one.
There is zero homework done and they are getting a few quid.

Sky and BBC are so far ahead, but as I said the technical crew are the same really. Like I said, clean house and raid the podcasts.
I miss aul Jimmy Smyth all the same.  He was great on BBC.

Absolute class act is Jimmy Smyth, still going on various fringe games, should be doing high profile Ulster games

He was/is unreal. Always remember him and Peter McGinnity commentating on The Championship in the early 90's "And it's that man [insert name of point scorer]"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 10, 2022, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 09, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
Days of outspoken 'personality pundits' over – we've evolved, says RTE's head of sport

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/8754625/rte-gobby-personality-pundits-over-legends-change

The man in charge sums up the new culture change. I don't agree with him about what's replaced it however. No more "personality pundits". So I guess bland nothing punditry is hear to stay on RTE.
That is a really long article for Sun readers
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 10, 2022, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on May 10, 2022, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 09, 2022, 10:22:55 PM
For fear of jinxing the whole lot - as he hasn't been heard this year yet - but has Dessie Dolan stood down?

He selector for Westmeath..Hopefully he doesn't reappear when Westmeath finish up.

Please please Lord have Westmeath win at least two or three qualifiers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 15, 2022, 10:06:51 PM
Jesus you couldn't see the Wexford Westmeath match. Terrible presentation
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2022, 10:13:07 PM
Was like a field away lol for the camera positioning.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on May 15, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
Brolly had an article today totally criticising the RTE coverage. Was behind a paywall but he tweeted the jist. Must say I totally agree although people will just say he has a grudge against RTE and the head of sport. I believe he's also suing RTE but his point is accurate regardless of that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 15, 2022, 11:02:51 PM
Athletic Grounds looking really well. Lovely backdrop of the 2 cathedrals
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 15, 2022, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 15, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
Brolly had an article today totally criticising the RTE coverage. Was behind a paywall but he tweeted the jist. Must say I totally agree although people will just say he has a grudge against RTE and the head of sport. I believe he's also suing RTE but his point is accurate regardless of that.
RTE is what it is, as it was was during all the years Joe was on screen.  And now Joe is bothered about RTE (he doesn't even pay the license fee). He didn't have issue with RTE when he was embedded in the pundit triumvirate but has issues when they got rid of him, so yes it does bring up questions about Joe's bias in any critique of RTE sans Joe
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 15, 2022, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on May 15, 2022, 10:06:51 PM
Jesus you couldn't see the Wexford Westmeath match. Terrible presentation

Yeah Dougal, it was brutal.

Was there just one camera?

Didn't even seem it could zoom in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 15, 2022, 11:48:15 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 15, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
Brolly had an article today totally criticising the RTE coverage. Was behind a paywall but he tweeted the jist. Must say I totally agree although people will just say he has a grudge against RTE and the head of sport. I believe he's also suing RTE but his point is accurate regardless of that.
Because he has and by the way have come across better after match analysis in the local bar than what came out of Brollys mouth on RTÉ.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 15, 2022, 11:59:35 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 15, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
Brolly had an article today totally criticising the RTE coverage. Was behind a paywall but he tweeted the jist. Must say I totally agree although people will just say he has a grudge against RTE and the head of sport. I believe he's also suing RTE but his point is accurate regardless of that.

It's all about Joe
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 16, 2022, 12:03:47 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on May 15, 2022, 10:06:51 PM
Jesus you couldn't see the Wexford Westmeath match. Terrible presentation

Mullingar has always been the same , I'd imagine it's to do with the facilities/vantage point provided to broadcaster
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 16, 2022, 09:35:00 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Everyone except Westmeath thought that, as i said I have always noticed the bad camera at Mullingar more than anywhere else, in both codes, very frustrating
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on May 16, 2022, 09:45:39 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 15, 2022, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 15, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
Brolly had an article today totally criticising the RTE coverage. Was behind a paywall but he tweeted the jist. Must say I totally agree although people will just say he has a grudge against RTE and the head of sport. I believe he's also suing RTE but his point is accurate regardless of that.
RTE is what it is, as it was was during all the years Joe was on screen.  And now Joe is bothered about RTE (he doesn't even pay the license fee). He didn't have issue with RTE when he was embedded in the pundit triumvirate but has issues when they got rid of him, so yes it does bring up questions about Joe's bias in any critique of RTE sans Joe

Ah I'd say him or the woman are paying the license fee as he lives in Mayo these days
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 11:18:16 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 16, 2022, 09:45:39 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 15, 2022, 11:17:24 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 15, 2022, 10:43:46 PM
Brolly had an article today totally criticising the RTE coverage. Was behind a paywall but he tweeted the jist. Must say I totally agree although people will just say he has a grudge against RTE and the head of sport. I believe he's also suing RTE but his point is accurate regardless of that.
RTE is what it is, as it was was during all the years Joe was on screen.  And now Joe is bothered about RTE (he doesn't even pay the license fee). He didn't have issue with RTE when he was embedded in the pundit triumvirate but has issues when they got rid of him, so yes it does bring up questions about Joe's bias in any critique of RTE sans Joe

Ah I'd say him or the woman are paying the license fee as he lives in Mayo these days

Is he not still a barrister working in Belfast?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
It would all be fine but his analysis wasn't fantastic either - it was entertaining but there was no real insightful analysis and he made some stuff personal.

It does need overhauled though. I found listening to the punditry on BBC yesterday pretty good. I didn't think the Tyrone boys sounded like they liked Derry mind you  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on May 16, 2022, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
It would all be fine but his analysis wasn't fantastic either - it was entertaining but there was no real insightful analysis and he made some stuff personal.

It does need overhauled though. I found listening to the punditry on BBC yesterday pretty good. I didn't think the Tyrone boys sounded like they liked Derry mind you  ;D

I had the same thought yesterday. way way better, also way more analytical compared to RTE's "Cliche fest"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cavan19 on May 16, 2022, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 16, 2022, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
It would all be fine but his analysis wasn't fantastic either - it was entertaining but there was no real insightful analysis and he made some stuff personal.

It does need overhauled though. I found listening to the punditry on BBC yesterday pretty good. I didn't think the Tyrone boys sounded like they liked Derry mind you  ;D

I had the same thought yesterday. way way better, also way more analytical compared to RTE's "Cliche fest"

In fairness it would not be hard to be better than RTE. When the games are on both channels i will watch BBC every time there knowledgeable and put the effort in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on May 16, 2022, 05:41:39 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on May 16, 2022, 03:57:20 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 16, 2022, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
It would all be fine but his analysis wasn't fantastic either - it was entertaining but there was no real insightful analysis and he made some stuff personal.

It does need overhauled though. I found listening to the punditry on BBC yesterday pretty good. I didn't think the Tyrone boys sounded like they liked Derry mind you  ;D

I had the same thought yesterday. way way better, also way more analytical compared to RTE's "Cliche fest"


In fairness it would not be hard to be better than RTE. When the games are on both channels i will watch BBC every time there knowledgeable and put the effort in.
The punditry was spot on, enjoyable, good humoured, and tactical however the commentary ground me down, talk about stating the obvious, repeatedly.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 08:00:52 PM
I used to think Marty Clarke was very good and I wasn't sure on McConville but I've kind of reversed my opinion now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 16, 2022, 10:45:47 PM
1 Tyrone lad enough, like to see someone from Monaghan or cavan involved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on May 16, 2022, 11:01:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
It does need overhauled though. I found listening to the punditry on BBC yesterday pretty good. I didn't think the Tyrone boys sounded like they liked Derry mind you  ;D

Mark Sidebottom is a dose though.

At least Des doesn't shout, roar and try to make a simple question as long as a f**king chapter in war & peace.


But definitely punditry far better. RTÉ are shocking. Just a stream of soundbites.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 16, 2022, 11:02:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 16, 2022, 10:45:47 PM
1 Tyrone lad enough, like to see someone from Monaghan or cavan involved.

BBC NI
Clue in the name
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 16, 2022, 11:03:08 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 16, 2022, 11:01:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
It does need overhauled though. I found listening to the punditry on BBC yesterday pretty good. I didn't think the Tyrone boys sounded like they liked Derry mind you  ;D

Mark Sidebottom is a dose though.

At least Des doesn't shout, roar and try to make a simple question as long as a f**king chapter in war & peace.


But definitely punditry far better. RTÉ are shocking. Just a stream of soundbites.

Des over Mark all day long
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NotedObserver on May 16, 2022, 11:10:39 PM
Not sure if he commentary to be honest on BBC. Get a bit over excited about a few things such as a tackle and want to heap praise on certain players they they know more than others. Harte seemed a bit annoyed that Derry were getting praise for a system Tyrone were hammered for
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: restorepride on May 16, 2022, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 08:00:52 PM
I used to think Marty Clarke was very good and I wasn't sure on McConville but I've kind of reversed my opinion now.
Clarke is generally excellent, McConville should not feature when Armagh are playing.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
See a ball?? I couldn't even make out what colour each team was wearing. Cody will have his work cut out getting video analysis of that game to ready the troops for the weekend!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:54:16 AM
I'm sure it's been said earlier, but this condensed championship is creating huge problems for the media too. Trying to fit last weekend's action into one programme was a fool's errand.
Fine if that was followed by a in depth hurling show and a separate in depth football show at some point during the week (instead of putting on countless reruns of recently shown programmes for example), surely that's cheap TV too.
It's been said for years, but the next TV deal has to insist on more magazine style coverage during the week between games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 17, 2022, 07:50:06 AM
Quote from: restorepride on May 16, 2022, 11:30:02 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 16, 2022, 08:00:52 PM
I used to think Marty Clarke was very good and I wasn't sure on McConville but I've kind of reversed my opinion now.
Clarke is generally excellent, McConville should not feature when Armagh are playing.

I think it's commentary vs punditry to be fair to him.

Can't have des at all. I really went off him years ago when he was at Eamon o'hara and donal og about their managers to try and make a headline for himself. 

Jc inadvertently your point actually makes a point for the tailteann cup. The "lesser" counties actually get little coverage when they are in the a championships anyway so putting them into a b one where they get little or none isn't much different.  I get arguments against it but honestly don't get that one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on May 17, 2022, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:54:16 AM
I'm sure it's been said earlier, but this condensed championship is creating huge problems for the media too. Trying to fit last weekend's action into one programme was a fool's errand.
Fine if that was followed by a in depth hurling show and a separate in depth football show at some point during the week (instead of putting on countless reruns of recently shown programmes for example), surely that's cheap TV too.
It's been said for years, but the next TV deal has to insist on more magazine style coverage during the week between games.

They aren't "huge" problems.

Championships games have always gone uncovered, even with RTE, Sky and BBC involved.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 17, 2022, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:54:16 AM
I'm sure it's been said earlier, but this condensed championship is creating huge problems for the media too. Trying to fit last weekend's action into one programme was a fool's errand.
Fine if that was followed by a in depth hurling show and a separate in depth football show at some point during the week (instead of putting on countless reruns of recently shown programmes for example), surely that's cheap TV too.
It's been said for years, but the next TV deal has to insist on more magazine style coverage during the week between games.

They aren't "huge" problems.

Championships games have always gone uncovered, even with RTE, Sky and BBC involved.
True, many's the round 1 qualifier hasn't got much coverage, same with most games prior to 1990, but since then it's been common to have the likes of Dublin v meath available somewhere or for a competitive Ulster semi to have more than 5 mins of coverage (for the large portion of potential audience with no access to BBC ni. Teething problems I'm sure, the extension to the spare month of August next year will fix the issue.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on May 17, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
See a ball?? I couldn't even make out what colour each team was wearing. Cody will have his work cut out getting video analysis of that game to ready the troops for the weekend!

Them Kilkenny lads don't do video analysis, tactics or the likes, they just go out and hurl up a storm in a manly way.

;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on May 17, 2022, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 17, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
See a ball?? I couldn't even make out what colour each team was wearing. Cody will have his work cut out getting video analysis of that game to ready the troops for the weekend!

Them Kilkenny lads don't do video analysis, tactics or the likes, they just go out and hurl up a storm in a manly way.

;D

#winyourownball
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 17, 2022, 10:48:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 17, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
See a ball?? I couldn't even make out what colour each team was wearing. Cody will have his work cut out getting video analysis of that game to ready the troops for the weekend!

Them Kilkenny lads don't do video analysis, tactics or the likes, they just go out and hurl up a storm in a manly way.

;D

I could actually imagine Cody demanding to see the full video of the game to be perfectly honest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 17, 2022, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 17, 2022, 10:48:07 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 17, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
See a ball?? I couldn't even make out what colour each team was wearing. Cody will have his work cut out getting video analysis of that game to ready the troops for the weekend!

Them Kilkenny lads don't do video analysis, tactics or the likes, they just go out and hurl up a storm in a manly way.

;D

I could actually imagine Cody demanding to see the full video of the game to be perfectly honest.

He probably had his own 4K video made from several excellent vantage points.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2022, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 17, 2022, 09:23:16 AM
Quote from: onefineday on May 17, 2022, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2022, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 16, 2022, 08:15:56 AM
I'd say it's more about RTÉ thinking beforehand that Wexford will beat Westmeath out the gate and therefore they'd only need 30 sec coverage of their game on TSG.

Yip,
bare minimum effort put in and then they try to muster 3 or 4 minutes of highlights and I'm yet to see a ball, just bodies running around.

Welcome to the Tailteann cup level of effort people.
See a ball?? I couldn't even make out what colour each team was wearing. Cody will have his work cut out getting video analysis of that game to ready the troops for the weekend!

Them Kilkenny lads don't do video analysis, tactics or the likes, they just go out and hurl up a storm in a manly way.

;D
And sending them off in front of their families is unmanly
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 22, 2022, 11:04:41 PM
I don't like that bit where the panellists stand up in a row and try to use the graphics.  They're so busy trying to press the correct graphics button that they don't speak with any flow.  It's not good tv. Subtle difference but match of the day pre-programme the graphics and the panellists can chat away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on May 23, 2022, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 22, 2022, 11:04:41 PM
I don't like that bit where the panellists stand up in a row and try to use the graphics.  They're so busy trying to press the correct graphics button that they don't speak with any flow.  It's not good tv. Subtle difference but match of the day pre-programme the graphics and the panellists can chat away.

Jesus, Derek MCGraths book couldn't have been any bigger...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 02:23:57 PM
He's really unpopular on social media McGrath. Tbh I tend to record and fast forward through the analysis so don't hear it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on May 23, 2022, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2022, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on May 22, 2022, 11:04:41 PM
I don't like that bit where the panellists stand up in a row and try to use the graphics.  They're so busy trying to press the correct graphics button that they don't speak with any flow.  It's not good tv. Subtle difference but match of the day pre-programme the graphics and the panellists can chat away.

Jesus, Derek MCGraths book couldn't have been any bigger...
I haven't seen a catechism since primary school.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 23, 2022, 08:31:14 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 23, 2022, 02:23:57 PM
He's really unpopular on social media McGrath. Tbh I tend to record and fast forward through the analysis so don't hear it.

Won't have much to watch so.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on May 24, 2022, 12:48:31 PM
I only caught the Sunday Game last night, but I thought Derek McGrath was going to tell a bedtime story at one stage with his book  ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on May 29, 2022, 03:51:37 PM
It would be a welcome surprise and a tremendous boon for GaA coverage  if Cavanagh and Cantwell were to fall in love and leave Ireland for a sunny island, somewhere very far away.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 30, 2022, 09:17:59 AM
To think she got the gig over Dara O'Cinneide apparently. Not sure what Colm was on about Murphy been the best player out of Ulster past 10yrs, He a more influential in a game compared to Kilkenny, Mccarthy, Fenton, who all play
together along with alot of other previous great players. Teams had Multi Dublin players to mark, Teams play Donegal will look to marking Murphy and McBearty every game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Derryman forever on May 30, 2022, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 29, 2022, 03:51:37 PM
It would be a welcome surprise and a tremendous boon for GaA coverage  if Cavanagh and Cantwell were to fall in love and leave Ireland for a sunny island, somewhere very far away.

Brilliant 🤣🤣
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 05, 2022, 01:24:32 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on June 05, 2022, 10:31:46 PM
Imagine a drinking game where you had to down a shot every time Ger Canning said the word "ever".

Nobody would see the second half!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 05, 2022, 11:55:44 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 05, 2022, 10:31:46 PM
Imagine a drinking game where you had to down a shot every time Ger Canning said the word "ever".

Nobody would see the second half!

Or "Strongly built fellow" or "it's a huge one"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 06, 2022, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: joemamas on June 05, 2022, 11:55:44 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 05, 2022, 10:31:46 PM
Imagine a drinking game where you had to down a shot every time Ger Canning said the word "ever".

Nobody would see the second half!

Or "Strongly built fellow" or "it's a huge one"

He tells me that all the time.






Sorry, what we talkin about?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on June 06, 2022, 09:33:21 AM
They've put the iPads away which is good.  Sit round the table and comment on the games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 06, 2022, 10:20:14 AM
Spillane got covid support during the pandemic.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pundit-pat-spillane-received-32-000-in-covid-support-nbdntlq7p
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 06, 2022, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 06, 2022, 10:20:14 AM
Spillane got covid support during the pandemic.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pundit-pat-spillane-received-32-000-in-covid-support-nbdntlq7p

This is why media opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt when it comes to Super 8s, championship structure and shortened season.

They all see things according to their own narrow vested interests. I seen Spillane recently up in arms about the season finishing up in July. Not a bit of wonder. He still got 2 half seasons punditry work yet also managed to claim €32k of taxpayers money for the rest of the time he was off 'work'.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rudi on June 06, 2022, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 06, 2022, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on June 06, 2022, 10:20:14 AM
Spillane got covid support during the pandemic.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pundit-pat-spillane-received-32-000-in-covid-support-nbdntlq7p

This is why media opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt when it comes to Super 8s, championship structure and shortened season.

They all see things according to their own narrow vested interests. I seen Spillane recently up in arms about the season finishing up in July. Not a bit of wonder. He still got 2 half seasons punditry work yet also managed to claim €32k of taxpayers money for the rest of the time he was off 'work'.

Kunt has no shame claiming that 32k, country is full of entitled kunts like Spillane.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on June 11, 2022, 07:57:26 PM
Good to see Jim mcguinness has cheered up a bit and not as boring as last time I saw him , actually enjoyed his analysis today .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 11, 2022, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: Gmac on June 11, 2022, 07:57:26 PM
Good to see Jim mcguinness has cheered up a bit and not as boring as last time I saw him , actually enjoyed his analysis today .

He, Peter Canavan and the host, don't know her name are so much better than RTE's cliche fest, it is immeasurable.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2022, 08:39:56 PM
RTE are so far behind SKY and the BBC it's laughable for punditry and analysis. Marty Clarke, We GOD, Oisin and Micky H are all worth listening too. Jimmy is good too but the Donegal accent does not do it for me...lol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 11, 2022, 09:15:36 PM
Who gives a shite, more important things to worry about , watch the games just and stop whinging . I assume yous are paying for sky btw
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 12, 2022, 03:52:16 PM
Jaysus your woman pundit couldn't be anymore biased towards Donegal.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 03:54:09 PM
Cora Staunton. I don't disagree with her. I think it would be good to see Armagh come good but this year they have beat a very off colour Tyrone team and done nothing else when it mattered. (Fwiw I wouldn't mind seeing them win but think this is a terrible fixture for them).
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: restorepride on June 12, 2022, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless
That is Biddy Early. Don't mess with her.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: joemamas on June 12, 2022, 04:50:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry

Was thinking the same thing myself. Additionaly Sean Cavanagh comes across a bit smug for my liking.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Jesus Cavanagh has a excelled himself' well it wasn't a penalty until he put his 2 arms around him at the end' So therefore it was a penalty
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 12, 2022, 04:50:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry

Was thinking the same thing myself. Additionaly Sean Cavanagh comes across a bit smug for my liking.
He's always getting sly digs in Cavanagh
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Jesus Cavanagh has a excelled himself' well it wasn't a penalty until he put his 2 arms around him at the end' So therefore it was a penalty
Yeah not sure what point he was trying for there.

Whole thing seems very forced and rushed even compared to BBC, Sky etc
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 12, 2022, 05:10:33 PM
Murphy legs have gone,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on June 12, 2022, 05:29:10 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 12, 2022, 04:50:59 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry

Was thinking the same thing myself. Additionaly Sean Cavanagh comes across a bit smug for my liking.
He's always getting sly digs in Cavanagh

He's a dismal pundit. Has anyone here ever laughed at one of his attempted jokes. He tries them all the time too and he just isn't funny. Pathetic analysis from him also, he never adds anything insightful.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on June 12, 2022, 05:30:41 PM
Continually kicking the ball into Murphy being marked by 4 men, is a novel tactic, although one that's doomed to failure .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Jesus Cavanagh has a excelled himself' well it wasn't a penalty until he put his 2 arms around him at the end' So therefore it was a penalty
Yeah not sure what point he was trying for there.

Whole thing seems very forced and rushed even compared to BBC, Sky etc

Compared to BBC. Lol. They didn't show game
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2022, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Jesus Cavanagh has a excelled himself' well it wasn't a penalty until he put his 2 arms around him at the end' So therefore it was a penalty
Yeah not sure what point he was trying for there.

Whole thing seems very forced and rushed even compared to BBC, Sky etc

Compared to BBC. Lol. They didn't show game
Are you drunk? Nobody said they did show the game

You seem to get very sensitive to comments on punditry judging by your posts in this thread.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 12, 2022, 05:49:42 PM
He's not called Dougal for nothing,
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:51:13 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:55:57 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Jesus Cavanagh has a excelled himself' well it wasn't a penalty until he put his 2 arms around him at the end' So therefore it was a penalty
Yeah not sure what point he was trying for there.

Whole thing seems very forced and rushed even compared to BBC, Sky etc

Compared to BBC. Lol. They didn't show game
Are you drunk? Nobody said they did show the game

You seem to get very sensitive to comments on punditry judging by your posts in this thread.

Big crowd oul weemin lol. Last time I checked RTÉ were putting games our free to the masses . British broadcasting corporation token few and sky busted your pocket to watch . Tg4 abú!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
Tbf there's no men on the ladies football games so I've no idea why we have them on the mens
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 12, 2022, 06:07:20 PM
Well it's a bit like Joanne getting the presenter over Dara, I just asked at that time, why, was that stage  diversity and ladies under representation on all things from TV to politics was all time high.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 12, 2022, 06:11:17 PM
Tbf some of the men's football pundits are awful so there needs some change in there. Sean Cavanagh is awful. I didn't think Staunton was any worse than the men.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again

You must be taking the piss? Never heard of córa Staunton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_Staunton
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again

You must be taking the piss? Never heard of córa Staunton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_Staunton

If you don't follow womens football then you wouldn't know, I couldn't tell ya one womens soccer player tbh... sorry take that back Scott the presenter now, but only because she presents, never seen her kick a ball
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clonadmad on June 12, 2022, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again

You must be taking the piss? Never heard of córa Staunton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_Staunton

If you don't follow womens football then you wouldn't know, I couldn't tell ya one womens soccer player tbh... sorry take that back Scott the presenter now, but only because she presents, never seen her kick a ball

Staunton and Ladies football in general would probably get a lot more coverage in the Irish media than it would in the NI media
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again

You must be taking the piss? Never heard of córa Staunton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_Staunton

If you don't follow womens football then you wouldn't know, I couldn't tell ya one womens soccer player tbh... sorry take that back Scott the presenter now, but only because she presents, never seen her kick a ball

She has been a constant on RTÉ sport reports for 20 years,I've no interest in ladies football but she's been on our TV for so long now. Think they done a laochra Gael ón her too

I can watch camogie but the ladies football not good tv
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on June 12, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
Good aul Spillane loved his statistics haha
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 12, 2022, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again

You must be taking the piss? Never heard of córa Staunton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_Staunton

If you don't follow womens football then you wouldn't know, I couldn't tell ya one womens soccer player tbh... sorry take that back Scott the presenter now, but only because she presents, never seen her kick a ball

She has been a constant on RTÉ sport reports for 20 years,I've no interest in ladies football but she's been on our TV for so long now. Think they done a laochra Gael ón her too

I can watch camogie but the ladies football not good tv
Dougal's user name is one of the most true to the core user names on the board.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on June 12, 2022, 11:46:01 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 10:46:30 PM
Good aul Spillane loved his statistics haha

On topic of stats. Of the two games Gaastatsman covered this weekend

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVD-TUAXsAEY0v2?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU_HH67XwAY9Nbl?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 13, 2022, 08:31:16 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 12, 2022, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 12, 2022, 06:15:35 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 05:58:12 PM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.
Nope. Never heard of her until now. Happy if I never have to look at or listen to her ever again

You must be taking the piss? Never heard of córa Staunton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cora_Staunton

If you don't follow womens football then you wouldn't know, I couldn't tell ya one womens soccer player tbh... sorry take that back Scott the presenter now, but only because she presents, never seen her kick a ball

She has been a constant on RTÉ sport reports for 20 years,I've no interest in ladies football but she's been on our TV for so long now. Think they done a laochra Gael ón her too

I can watch camogie but the ladies football not good tv
Dougal's user name is one of the most true to the core user names on the board.
And using the theory it takes one to know one, you're well qualified to make such a statement.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on June 14, 2022, 12:36:29 AM
An RTE pundits saying he never took interest in D3/4 teams until he son start started playing with Sligo..  Sums up RTE football pundits that do little research.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/why-i-am-a-better-gaa-man-since-my-son-joined-sligo-41748947.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Loughshore2022 on June 14, 2022, 12:51:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
Tbf there's no men on the ladies football games so I've no idea why we have them on the mens

Ladies Gaelic football shouldn't even be considered the same sport as men's given how much less physical it is. How can a female player comment on the men's game when she actually has no experience of what it is like on the field of a men's football match? I have watched some of my clubs ladies games on video and the football looks so much easier than the men's hard hitting game.

I assume ladies football is softer because of women not wanting to damage their bodies because of future pregnancy but in the men's game someone could kick you in the balls and there is no protection there.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Loughshore2022 on June 14, 2022, 01:00:29 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on June 12, 2022, 05:47:42 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

11All Star Awards and 4 All Ireland Winners medals and you don't know her, Jesus wept.

From what I've seen the only people who care about ladies football are men who have daughters. If you slag it they actually get personally offended and accuse you of misogyny. I don't care about ladies football but noone can acuse me of misogyny because I listen to female musicians.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 07:34:24 AM
Quote from: Loughshore2022 on June 14, 2022, 12:51:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2022, 06:01:26 PM
Tbf there's no men on the ladies football games so I've no idea why we have them on the mens

Ladies Gaelic football shouldn't even be considered the same sport as men's given how much less physical it is. How can a female player comment on the men's game when she actually has no experience of what it is like on the field of a men's football match? I have watched some of my clubs ladies games on video and the football looks so much easier than the men's hard hitting game.

I assume ladies football is softer because of women not wanting to damage their bodies because of future pregnancy but in the men's game someone could kick you in the balls and there is no protection there.
Strange way to look at it. Have you played Senior inter country? Presumably by your logic you're not going to comment on any inter county matches if not, because let's be honest here, the difference in standard between club and county is so great it may as well be a different sport.
Unless you have represented your country Northern Ireland (fair play if you have) you keep opinions on top level soccer to yourself I assume? What's the cut off here?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 08:02:14 AM
If his point was meant to be "how can a female player be paid to analyse a men's game", then it's a fair one.

Cora might have won everything going in ladies football, and do so with enormous skill, effort and appreciation for the sport. But she knows no more about having an entire county's happiness resting on her shoulders than I do.

The sports are similar. The stakes are completely different.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 08:29:29 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 08:02:14 AM
If his point was meant to be "how can a female player be paid to analyse a men's game", then it's a fair one.

Cora might have won everything going in ladies football, and do so with enormous skill, effort and appreciation for the sport. But she knows no more about having an entire county's happiness resting on her shoulders than I do.

The sports are similar. The stakes are completely different.
How do the stakes impact the ability to assess what's happening in front of them though and delivering insight on it? That is a different skillset to being good enough to play the game at a high level or to have experienced the pressure of an All Ireland final.
By this thread of logic Eugene McGee should never have managed Offaly at all because he had relatively no experience at any level as a player and certainly no inkling into having a county relying on him, he barely kicked a football. Are you saying that all inter county managers would have to have played top level inter county themselves because if they haven't then they don't know the stakes involved and that will negatively impact their ability to assess their squad and how to set them up to win?

Don't see how the stakes come into it at all really, is there a different way to assess what's happening on the pitch for the minor match versus the senior game on All Ireland final day because the stakes aren't as high? If I had played minor IC but not Senior IC am I qualified to analyse a minor match but not a Senior one?
Scan Concannon was a phenomenal underage player for Galway, never did a thing at Senior level, he's PJ's right hand man in the Galway setup at moment, plenty in the county would say he shouldn't be there at all but I don't think that is because he didn't play Senior IC for Galway and that's the major thing holding him back.

I just don't see the logic of the argument ye are making really, maybe I'm missing something.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 08:40:26 AM
But you're talking about two completely different things.

Coaches like Eugene McGee and Concannon work their way up through the ranks. By the time they arrive on the county scene they'll have a coaching CV and a reputation that warrants their appointment.

Analysts are selected and then groomed based on some combination of their playing achievements, loquaciousness, knowledge and charisma. And for men, it requires a truly special playing CV to overcome a lack of charisma (see Gooch, see Cavanagh).

Cora Staunton has been elevated to this bracket too by RTE but she has no more right to be there than say Eugene Brannigan of Kilcoo or Michael Lundy of Corofin. She can talk Football like anyone. Of course she can. But she can't explain what it's like to do so with 89,000 people watching in Croke and another million on the TV. She can't explain what it's like to have a county's hopes upon her shoulders.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on June 14, 2022, 09:06:46 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.

Spillane just tries to throw out as many stats as he can inside a 10 minute period.

Bamboozle us with stats for the sake of it.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
There always seems to be  a wee bit of mysogny  floating about. Not really appropriate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
There always seems to be  a wee bit of mysogny  floating about. Not really appropriate.

Agreed, I am not for this 50/50 gender thingy for the sake of it but analysis is about intelligence and there is no reason why Cora wouldnt be better than any man at that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
There always seems to be  a wee bit of mysogny  floating about. Not really appropriate.

This isn't misogyny and to suggest so is lazy thinking.

I don't want Spillane as a pundit because he's loud and lazy. I don't like Whelan as a pundit as he is lazy and takes no interest in the finer points of the game. I don't like Gooch as a pundit because if he has insight then he's unwilling to express it. I don't like Cavanagh because he's basically Whelan all over again.

But nor do I wish these players to be replaced by career D4 footballers whose highlights reel consists of getting whalloped by Dublin in the LSFC every year. Nor do I wish them to be replaced by top class club players who were unwilling to commit to county football for any extended period of time. Nor do I want them to be replaced by females who cannot relate to playing in such a prestigious competition, in front of such healthy crowds, and against such physically imposing, tactically informed opponents.

It's not misogyny to suggest that Sky have proven it's possible to find and cultivate top class GAA analysts, but whose every word is validated by their playing and management experiences.

That's not misogyny.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.

Ignore them lad, you made your point well. Maith Thú
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:29:35 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 09:27:14 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on June 14, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
There always seems to be  a wee bit of mysogny  floating about. Not really appropriate.

This isn't misogyny and to suggest so is lazy thinking.

I don't want Spillane as a pundit because he's loud and lazy. I don't like Whelan as a pundit as he is lazy and takes no interest in the finer points of the game. I don't like Gooch as a pundit because if he has insight then he's unwilling to express it. I don't like Cavanagh because he's basically Whelan all over again.

But nor do I wish these players to be replaced by career D4 footballers whose highlights reel consists of getting whalloped by Dublin in the LSFC every year. Nor do I wish them to be replaced by top class club players who were unwilling to commit to county football for any extended period of time. Nor do I want them to be replaced by females who cannot relate to playing in such a prestigious competition, in front of such healthy crowds, and against such physically imposing, tactically informed opponents.

It's not misogyny to suggest that Sky have proven it's possible to find and cultivate top class GAA analysts, but whose every word is validated by their playing and management experiences.

That's not misogyny.

its all about the money with Sky, thats what they are about
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
TSG may not be the forum for that. Specialised analysis draws a smaller audience online.
TSG gets a huge audience. The Lowest Common Denominator wants entertainment, emotion and football. Ask Joe Brolly.
It's like the difference between a sports newspaper and the Irish Independent.
The nutritional content in TSG is quite low.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
TSG may not be the forum for that. Specialised analysis draws a smaller audience online.
TSG gets a huge audience. The Lowest Common Denominator wants entertainment, emotion and football. Ask Joe Brolly.
It's like the difference between a sports newspaper and the Irish Independent.
The nutritional content in TSG is quite low.

About 20% of Joe Brollys stories are true, but good craic all the same, bar stool banter
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
TSG may not be the forum for that. Specialised analysis draws a smaller audience online.
TSG gets a huge audience. The Lowest Common Denominator wants entertainment, emotion and football. Ask Joe Brolly.
It's like the difference between a sports newspaper and the Irish Independent.
The nutritional content in TSG is quite low.

About 20% of Joe Brollys stories are true, but good craic all the same, bar stool banter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCuMgb2ibwY&t=23s
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:43:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
TSG may not be the forum for that. Specialised analysis draws a smaller audience online.
TSG gets a huge audience. The Lowest Common Denominator wants entertainment, emotion and football. Ask Joe Brolly.
It's like the difference between a sports newspaper and the Irish Independent.
The nutritional content in TSG is quite low.

About 20% of Joe Brollys stories are true, but good craic all the same, bar stool banter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCuMgb2ibwY&t=23s

Class!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.

Ignore them lad, you made your point well. Maith Thú

So I'll go back to my point earlier, why are there no men regularly commentating on ladies football or holding the presenters job? good for the goose and all that..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 10:09:19 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
TSG may not be the forum for that. Specialised analysis draws a smaller audience online.
TSG gets a huge audience. The Lowest Common Denominator wants entertainment, emotion and football. Ask Joe Brolly.
It's like the difference between a sports newspaper and the Irish Independent.
The nutritional content in TSG is quite low.
You can have both on the SG, we shouldn't have to accept that decent analysis and entertainment have to be mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.

Ignore them lad, you made your point well. Maith Thú

So I'll go back to my point earlier, why are there no men regularly commentating on ladies football or holding the presenters job? good for the goose and all that..

Thery always are, TG4. Why are men managing them when they have never played ? They don't know what it's like to have a period or rear wains lol. Dead duck debate
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 10:09:19 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 09:29:39 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.
TSG may not be the forum for that. Specialised analysis draws a smaller audience online.
TSG gets a huge audience. The Lowest Common Denominator wants entertainment, emotion and football. Ask Joe Brolly.
It's like the difference between a sports newspaper and the Irish Independent.
The nutritional content in TSG is quite low.
You can have both on the SG, we shouldn't have to accept that decent analysis and entertainment have to be mutually exclusive.
Of course you can but ultimately it's driven by the audience imo. Same for the Late Late Show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 11:54:55 AM
What pissed me off was Staunton's absolute bias against Armagh. She couldn't even bring herself round to say anything good about them at the end, instead sticking to the line that the penalty and black was the turning point, as if Armagh didn't actually deserve it. She failed to notice that Armagh was well on top before that having overturned a 4 point deficit. I find it quite funny here that some people think I'm some sort of idiot because I never heard of her. Like most people I have absolutely no interest in Ladies Football and I rarely watch RTE so how would I know her? 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
But Armagh weren't on top, They had scored 2pts from the goal, to Donegal 9. Armagh were coming bck into it with a few points, but she had a point on the Black card been a changing point. Armagh went on to dominate next 50 odd mins.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:07:41 PM
No pont asking if you heard of Rena Buckley (Cork) then, Got 18 odd all-Ireland medals in camogie and fball?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 12:15:59 PM
Armagh started to take over from about 20 minutes into the match when they recovered from a 4 point deficit so the tide he'd started to turn before the penalty and the black card. Indeed only for some acrobatic work from Ward we'd have had a goal before we got the penalty. And yes, you're spot on I never heard of Rena Buckley
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 12:18:16 PM
Mind you I have to say it doesn't say much for the competitive nature of Ladies Football or Camogie if Rena has managed to amass a collection of silverware as big as that
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on June 14, 2022, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:05:34 PM
But Armagh weren't on top, They had scored 2pts from the goal, to Donegal 9. Armagh were coming bck into it with a few points, but she had a point on the Black card been a changing point. Armagh went on to dominate next 50 odd mins.

Even if there had been no black card, the ball was in the net anyway.
Armagh had a dangerous lull in the first half, and there should be some thought by own management about that, but they successfully turned it around which is encouraging.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.

Be proud for her to my ma or daughter or sister. Class player
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.

Be proud for her to my ma or daughter or sister. Class player

You'd have to be reared under a bucket not to have heard of Cora Staunton or Rena Buckley..

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 02:22:40 PM
I've never heard of Rena Buckley.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.

Ignore them lad, you made your point well. Maith Thú

So I'll go back to my point earlier, why are there no men regularly commentating on ladies football or holding the presenters job? good for the goose and all that..

Thery always are, TG4. Why are men managing them when they have never played ? They don't know what it's like to have a period or rear wains lol. Dead duck debate

Its disproportionately women doing women games, as for men managing ladies teams that's down to the clubs/counties this debate is on the Sunday game.

I think we all rear wains and deal with partner's having periods tbh ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.
I've been to a few Ladies matches at Club level but I've no interest to be honest. Perhaps it would be different if I had any daughters but I don't so c'est la vie. However apologies for being snide about Rena's achievements, she's obviously a legend in her own field and fair play to her
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.
I've been to a few Ladies matches at Club level but I've no interest to be honest. Perhaps it would be different if I had any daughters but I don't so c'est la vie. However apologies for being snide about Rena's achievements, she's obviously a legend in her own field and fair play to her

Be wee grand daughters someday, you will all round them like a rash a chara, hard yo beat the wee girls,stick by you too in later life, sons piss off to the mother in laws lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.

Be proud for her to my ma or daughter or sister. Class player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G31Tz-W3vDM
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 10:11:13 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 09:52:38 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2022, 09:02:59 AM
I think we are looking for different things, I'm looking for someone who can better explain the how and why of what is happening in the match happening right now, that's analysis to me.
Someone who has experienced the big day themselves can tell us of the pressure the players are under, ok great, what does that give me when I want to know why one teams LHB is doing wreck on the pitch, how a previously dominant midfielder is being bypassed, how the HF line off camera are taking turns in dropping back cutting off that ball over the top of the HB line. Does that all come back to knowing what is like to be able to carry the weight of a county? For me it certainly doesn't, being able to tell me how men representing their county on the biggest day are under pressure is a level of insight from their own experience obviously, how many times do we need to be told that though really?

Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane can tell us all about being there on the big day, they offer nothing in terms of insight bar clichés and platitudes at this stage but as I said, we seem to be looking for very different things here.

Ignore them lad, you made your point well. Maith Thú

So I'll go back to my point earlier, why are there no men regularly commentating on ladies football or holding the presenters job? good for the goose and all that..

Thery always are, TG4. Why are men managing them when they have never played ? They don't know what it's like to have a period or rear wains lol. Dead duck debate

Its disproportionately women doing women games, as for men managing ladies teams that's down to the clubs/counties this debate is on the Sunday game.

I think we all rear wains and deal with partner's having periods tbh ;)

That was my response to the comments from others that you cant do commentary on mens sports if you havent played mens sport. It was in jest to make that argument stand out as illogical as it is.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.

Be proud for her to my ma or daughter or sister. Class player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G31Tz-W3vDM

Puckin off her left side on the run-most men cant do it
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.
I've been to a few Ladies matches at Club level but I've no interest to be honest. Perhaps it would be different if I had any daughters but I don't so c'est la vie. However apologies for being snide about Rena's achievements, she's obviously a legend in her own field and fair play to her

Be wee grand daughters someday, you will all round them like a rash a chara, hard yo beat the wee girls,stick by you too in later life, sons piss off to the mother in laws lol
Ive one grandson. There's another grandchild on the way so if it's a wee girl then I'll soon become familiar with the Cora's and Rena's of this world
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2022, 03:29:39 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 14, 2022, 03:25:03 PM
In terms of playing rules, there are three key differences between the mens & womens ladies versions of Gaelic football...

* In the ladies game, the ball may be lifted from the ground by the hands by a player as long as she is in a "standing" position i.e. has at least one foot on the ground with no other part of the body from the knee up touching the ground.
* Kickouts may be taken from the hands.
* All deliberate body contact is forbidden.

The first two matter little in terms of fundamental game play compared to the mens game, the third one is the most different - but in the mens game the only deliberate bodily contact allowed within the rules is the side-shoulder charge (except for the goalkeeper in his own small rectangle), all others are technically forbidden. However most referees in the mens game tend to allow more "deliberate" physical contact than the rules would appear to allow. The rules of play concerning the ladies game tends to be more explicit as to what is and isn't allowed.

I'm (technically) a qualified ladies football referee but only done referring mens boys football at blitzes, but from speaking to some other referees in Tyrone whom do officiating in both codes, all of them have said that the ladies games is easier to referee and I'd concur.

I don't think there is forward or back marks nor kick out marks.  so no marks in general

Yes and Ladies football is the easiest games you'll get
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: barnish oggie on June 14, 2022, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 14, 2022, 03:25:03 PM
In terms of playing rules, there are three key differences between the mens & womens ladies versions of Gaelic football...

* In the ladies game, the ball may be lifted from the ground by the hands by a player as long as she is in a "standing" position i.e. has at least one foot on the ground with no other part of the body from the knee up touching the ground.
* Kickouts may be taken from the hands.
* All deliberate body contact is forbidden.

The first two matter little in terms of fundamental game play compared to the mens game, the third one is the most different - but in the mens game the only deliberate bodily contact allowed within the rules is the side-shoulder charge (except for the goalkeeper in his own small rectangle), all others are technically forbidden. However most referees in the mens game tend to allow more "deliberate" physical contact than the rules would appear to allow. The rules of play concerning the ladies game tends to be more explicit as to what is and isn't allowed.

I'm (technically) a qualified ladies football referee but only done referring mens boys football at blitzes, but from speaking to some other referees in Tyrone whom do officiating in both codes, all of them have said that the ladies games is easier to referee and I'd concur.

There is a lot to be said for the ladies non contact tackling i.e. tackling the ball when it is being played.

It is a much better skill and better to watch, dispossessing a player when they are either soloing or passing than the slapping, pulling and hauling that goes on in the mens game.

Especially at underage, i think up to u12 maybe, they should bring in that tackling for the boys as well.

I know that there are definitely cases of young lads who end up terrified going on the pitch because they know if they get the ball they are going to have the life slapped out of them in tackles and you can see some just give up as a result.

It isn't their fault that at maybe 9 or 10 they are smaller than a lot of their peers and insisting on the non contact tackling in games would help them along.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.

Be proud for her to my ma or daughter or sister. Class player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G31Tz-W3vDM

Puckin off her left side on the run-most men cant do it

Speak for yourself.  ;)

Quote from: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 02:22:40 PM
I've never heard of Rena Buckley.

I rest my case   ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 03:40:56 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 14, 2022, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:41:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2022, 02:39:29 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.

Be proud for her to my ma or daughter or sister. Class player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G31Tz-W3vDM

Puckin off her left side on the run-most men cant do it

Speak for yourself.  ;)

Quote from: thewobbler on June 14, 2022, 02:22:40 PM
I've never heard of Rena Buckley.

I rest my case   ;D

Lol- 40 yard pass over the sideline for me
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 02:33:28 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 14, 2022, 12:20:51 PM
Should watch some ladies fball and especially Camogie, it's not that bad to watch, Cork had come with the best ever ladies team and won alot over a 10yr period, Cork camogie strong at the same time, plus some club all - Irelands, Her name, although like you said not common knowledge, is know for having the most all Ireland across gaa sports.
I've been to a few Ladies matches at Club level but I've no interest to be honest. Perhaps it would be different if I had any daughters but I don't so c'est la vie. However apologies for being snide about Rena's achievements, she's obviously a legend in her own field and fair play to her

Be wee grand daughters someday, you will all round them like a rash a chara, hard yo beat the wee girls,stick by you too in later life, sons piss off to the mother in laws lol
Ive one grandson. There's another grandchild on the way so if it's a wee girl then I'll soon become familiar with the Cora's and Rena's of this world

In the words of Buff Egan "Drink it in". Great fun ahead
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Man Marker on June 14, 2022, 03:47:22 PM
Sorry lads, can't watch the ladies football,poor standard for me, tactics poor, kicking poor as well. watching players solo 40m going apst 5 players. Not close to it. Now camogie, could watch it all day by comparison.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 03:59:16 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on June 14, 2022, 03:47:22 PM
Sorry lads, can't watch the ladies football,poor standard for me, tactics poor, kicking poor as well. watching players solo 40m going apst 5 players. Not close to it. Now camogie, could watch it all day by comparison.

Same. But sadly ladies football seems to be getting upper hand in parts of derry due to its ease to play
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trileacman on June 14, 2022, 04:42:25 PM
I haven't watched camogie in a while but found it particularly defensive and nigh unwatchable 4-5 years ago. Have seen a few good ladies games recently though and would pick a ladies match over camogie.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smelmoth on June 14, 2022, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 04:51:08 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 12, 2022, 04:47:04 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 12, 2022, 03:44:53 PM
Who's that panelist on RTE with O'Rourke and Cavanagh?  A complete one trick pony. Hopeless

She's hard to listen to, RTE must have a gender quota in play .  Wouldn't be a fan of the two bucks alongside either.

They have such terrible punditry
Jesus Cavanagh has a excelled himself' well it wasn't a penalty until he put his 2 arms around him at the end' So therefore it was a penalty

Weirdest bit of punditry I can remember. Rian O'Neil scored 1.7 but of course none of them were scores when he kicked them. They only became scores later when they went over the bar or in one instance into the net.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
It was the weirdest bit of punditry until the commentator issued this utterance in the second half ' and Rafferty was fouled which was fortunate as he'd dropped the ball' Any chance that it was the foul that actually made him drop the ball!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 10:28:25 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsGAA/status/1536381815052804101?t=xD1QC830hqApEuCQiN82qg&s=19

I mean,come on a 12  year old could explain the sweeper
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BennyHarp on June 20, 2022, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 10:28:25 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsGAA/status/1536381815052804101?t=xD1QC830hqApEuCQiN82qg&s=19

I mean,come on a 12  year old could explain the sweeper

Yet you see players up and down the country making the mistakes pointed out in that clip. The problem is that plenty of people (and coaches of teams) think that the sweeper is just bringing a man back and yes a 12 year could explain that, but the key thing is what he does when he's back there. I would doubt if too many 12 year olds could explain it better than Peter and Jim did in that clip.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on June 20, 2022, 02:30:32 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on June 20, 2022, 02:06:14 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on June 14, 2022, 10:28:25 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsGAA/status/1536381815052804101?t=xD1QC830hqApEuCQiN82qg&s=19

I mean,come on a 12  year old could explain the sweeper

Yet you see players up and down the country making the mistakes pointed out in that clip. The problem is that plenty of people (and coaches of teams) think that the sweeper is just bringing a man back and yes a 12 year could explain that, but the key thing is what he does when he's back there. I would doubt if too many 12 year olds could explain it better than Peter and Jim did in that clip.

Sweeper is an absolute nightmare of a position to play - it's very much a dammed if you do dammed if you don't in terms of when to come and and when to go.

Even in those clips the presence of the sweeper around the box meant that the odds of Galway putting a ball in around the box was way lower than if there was no sweeper there which reduced the chances of Galway getting a goal from those possessions significantly. I would say that the main aim of a sweeper is to reduce goal chances.

However it looks very bad for a sweeper when a forward strolls through the middle and pops over a point from that area in-between where a full-back and a centre-back would traditionally go.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on June 26, 2022, 10:10:06 PM
So lads, should we have penalties?

Ah the rules are the rules Des and you have to play to them.


WTF.

Clearly the fukking question was "should penalties be part of the rules".
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:37:38 AM
Nobody worried about it when Clare and Limerick had to go to penalties
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2022, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:37:38 AM
Nobody worried about it when Clare and Limerick had to go to penalties
Probably because the winner had to play Kerry and the loser wasn't out of the championship.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:37:38 AM
Nobody worried about it when Clare and Limerick had to go to penalties
Nobody is worried about any games in Munster to be honest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on June 27, 2022, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2022, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:37:38 AM
Nobody worried about it when Clare and Limerick had to go to penalties
Probably because the winner had to play Kerry and the loser wasn't out of the championship.

Winner on the day was agreed by all CB's when the championships were condensed. Penalties as good as anything irrespective of the bullshit peddled by Cavanagh unless Armagh were happy to play Galway in Portlaois or Thurles next weekend with the expectation the winners would be playing the following weekend.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 09:46:29 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 27, 2022, 09:44:37 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2022, 12:51:59 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2022, 12:37:38 AM
Nobody worried about it when Clare and Limerick had to go to penalties
Probably because the winner had to play Kerry and the loser wasn't out of the championship.

Winner on the day was agreed by all CB's when the championships were condensed. Penalties as good as anything irrespective of the bullshit peddled by Cavanagh unless Armagh were happy to play Galway in Portlaois or Thurles next weekend with the expectation the winners would be playing the following weekend.
We'd play them on the moon tomorrow rather than go out like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on June 27, 2022, 09:47:47 AM
The Sunday Game analysts all would prefer a replay as they make money from a replay.

How about next score wins?
Or first have 10 min more of regular ET.
If the 'next score win' becomes too negative, could remove a couple of players from both sides every few min.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on June 27, 2022, 09:51:47 AM
Quote from: blanketattack on June 27, 2022, 09:47:47 AM
The Sunday Game analysts all would prefer a replay as they make money from a replay.

How about next score wins?
Or first have 10 min more of regular ET.
If the 'next score win' becomes too negative, could remove a couple of players from both sides every few min.
I remember an Armagh and Tyrone u20 match being decided by extra extra time a few years ago- 5 mins each way after it finished level.

Again cruel way to lose as most lads bound to be out on their feet after extra time already.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2022, 09:19:46 PM
Fair play Ursula Jacob, some numpties out there and on here
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on July 05, 2022, 09:35:06 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2022, 09:19:46 PM
Fair play Ursula Jacob, some numpties out there and on here

Apparently it was about three comments that a banter site found the need to exaggerate
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2022, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on July 05, 2022, 09:35:06 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 05, 2022, 09:19:46 PM
Fair play Ursula Jacob, some numpties out there and on here

Apparently it was about three comments that a banter site found the need to exaggerate

Yeah plenty of similar stuff on here
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: TheMistro on July 06, 2022, 10:10:32 AM
Well done Ursela for speaking out. A very good pundit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 06, 2022, 12:25:42 PM
Quote from: TheMistro on July 06, 2022, 10:10:32 AM
Well done Ursela for speaking out. A very good pundit.
She is the daughter of Mick Jacob and steeped in hurling.
She spent her childhood playing hurling with her brudders. She won 3 all Irelands with Oulart and a few with Wexford.
She's GAA royalty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2022, 02:43:27 PM
It's not one bit sexist but I find her a terrible pundit. But I also think Spillane, Brolly, Dessie Dolan and Sean Cavanagh are brutal too. Is that sexist?
To even further qualify it, I think Joanne Cantwell and Jackie Hurley are good and I can't abide Marty Morrissey.
Sometimes it's not about one's gender - just the viewer or listener's personal taste.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2022, 04:41:53 PM
Joanne Cantwell good, now we know you taking the piss.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 09, 2022, 02:59:20 PM
The end of Pat after 30 years

https://mobile.twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1545764085689622528
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 10, 2022, 04:48:54 PM
Kevin McStay's bias for Dublin is embarrassing
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 10, 2022, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.

No way! Yes it was exciting but the quality wasn't there compared to some games 5-6 years ago when Dublin/Mayo/Keery were in their pomp.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: CK_Redhand on July 10, 2022, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.
The drama at the end was good but overall the second half was poor apart from the dublin goal. Lots of mistakes and turnovers. Of course RTE love their dub v kerry rivalry shtick so will laud it as the greatest game ever
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2022, 05:30:03 PM
Don't understand Canning and, in particular, McStay's borderline clamouring for O'Shea to be sent off for the penalty follow-up. Clearly played the ball which he was entitled to go for, clearly accidental contact. Free out. He was still at it in the second half ffs.

O'Rourke calling it one of the best sporting occasions he's ever been at was laughable
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on July 10, 2022, 05:31:32 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.

Lads get a bit excited immediately after games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Turf on July 10, 2022, 05:32:26 PM
Is there really a need for the helicopter pilot style headphones they all wear?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: pbat on July 10, 2022, 05:33:51 PM
So the script writers and lawyers can whisper what to say.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.

Galway Armagh better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2022, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 10, 2022, 05:30:03 PM
Don't understand Canning and, in particular, McStay's borderline clamouring for O'Shea to be sent off for the penalty follow-up. Clearly played the ball which he was entitled to go for, clearly accidental contact. Free out. He was still at it in the second half ffs.

O'Rourke calling it one of the best sporting occasions he's ever been at was laughable
Someone needs to give McStay a copy of TO playing rules of football.
He was embarrassing today about O'Shea case and yesterday about the Westies goal where ball was played along the ground by hand.
And get rid of his Dublin blinkers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2022, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.

Galway Armagh better.

Without a doubt the best game this year. It was a privilege being there having no dog in the fight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 10, 2022, 11:25:22 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 10, 2022, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 10, 2022, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 10, 2022, 05:25:13 PM
It was a very entertaining game. But was it as good as rte claimed? ORourke said it was tge best he had ever seen.

Galway Armagh better.

Without a doubt the best game this year. It was a privilege being there having no dog in the fight.

O'Rourke should take a lead out of Spillane's book and piss off out of it!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2022, 08:43:29 AM
Marty Morrissey and Michael Duignan for hurling final commentary? Hopefully Darragh Maloney and Eamonn Fitzmaurice for the football.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 11, 2022, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2022, 08:43:29 AM
Marty Morrissey and Michael Duignan for hurling final commentary? Hopefully Darragh Maloney and Eamonn Fitzmaurice for the football.

Fitzmaurice does talk a lot of sense but shouldn't be involved now that Kerry are in the final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 11, 2022, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2022, 08:43:29 AM
Marty Morrissey and Michael Duignan for hurling final commentary? Hopefully Darragh Maloney and Eamonn Fitzmaurice for the football.
good call
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2022, 09:37:01 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 11, 2022, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2022, 08:43:29 AM
Marty Morrissey and Michael Duignan for hurling final commentary? Hopefully Darragh Maloney and Eamonn Fitzmaurice for the football.

Fitzmaurice does talk a lot of sense but shouldn't be involved now that Kerry are in the final.

True, forgot that part! Will Dessie Dolan return with 'pearls of wisdom' after being part of Westmeath's Tailteann Cup winning background team I wonder?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on July 11, 2022, 09:53:54 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 11, 2022, 08:49:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2022, 08:43:29 AM
Marty Morrissey and Michael Duignan for hurling final commentary? Hopefully Darragh Maloney and Eamonn Fitzmaurice for the football.

Fitzmaurice does talk a lot of sense but shouldn't be involved now that Kerry are in the final.

Darragh Maloney by far the best game commentator, Marty does my banger in with his bullshíte.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

Kerry beat Tyrone last year if David Clifford stays fit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on July 11, 2022, 10:13:36 AM
Dublin beat kerry yesterday if Con is fit

But he wasn't, so they didn't. Hate that argument about if so and so was fit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 11, 2022, 10:13:49 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

This the Tyrone that scored 3-14 after extra time?

The only qualification needed to work on these panels is to have played County football. No intelligence or insight needed.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 11, 2022, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

Kerry beat Tyrone last year if David Clifford stays fit.

Clifford seemed to struggle as the game went on yesterday as well. So maybe it wasn't a one off. There was nothing in the game last year when Clifford was still on the pitch last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NotedObserver on July 11, 2022, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 11, 2022, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

Kerry beat Tyrone last year if David Clifford stays fit.

Clifford seemed to struggle as the game went on yesterday as well. So maybe it wasn't a one off. There was nothing in the game last year when Clifford was still on the pitch last year.

Thought Tyrone might have caught Kerry last year but after watching them this year no way. Tyrone were down to 14 men for 20 mins of that game as well and derserved winners
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:29:11 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 11, 2022, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 11, 2022, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

Kerry beat Tyrone last year if David Clifford stays fit.

Clifford seemed to struggle as the game went on yesterday as well. So maybe it wasn't a one off. There was nothing in the game last year when Clifford was still on the pitch last year.

Thought Tyrone might have caught Kerry last year but after watching them this year no way. Tyrone were down to 14 men for 20 mins of that game as well and derserved winners

Deserved winners on the day, not disputing that, I just think if Clifford stays fit that Kerry win.

And I also think that if Con is fit yesterday Dublin likely win. But he wasn't, same as Clifford last year
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: HokeyPokey on July 11, 2022, 10:41:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:29:11 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 11, 2022, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 11, 2022, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

Kerry beat Tyrone last year if David Clifford stays fit.

Clifford seemed to struggle as the game went on yesterday as well. So maybe it wasn't a one off. There was nothing in the game last year when Clifford was still on the pitch last year.

Thought Tyrone might have caught Kerry last year but after watching them this year no way. Tyrone were down to 14 men for 20 mins of that game as well and derserved winners

Deserved winners on the day, not disputing that, I just think if Clifford stays fit that Kerry win.

And I also think that if Con is fit yesterday Dublin likely win. But he wasn't, same as Clifford last year

I don't agree at all.

I think Tyrone should have closed that out earlier, even with two very harsh black cards and a couple black cards not given to Kerry.

It wasn't a freak injury either, he couldn't last the distance and Kerry's other players improved, which was odd as they had seemed wrecked compared to Tyrone and suddenly rallied in the second half of ET. Maybe if Clifford was better conditioned, but at the same time, Mattie Donnelly was clearly suffering after effects from Covid and wasn't at himself. Or if McShane or Canavan were at their peak...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 11, 2022, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 11, 2022, 10:13:49 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

This the Tyrone that scored 3-14 after extra time?

The only qualification needed to work on these panels is to have played County football. No intelligence or insight needed.

Throw in the odd cliche or two and you've got the job.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 11, 2022, 10:47:19 AM
Quote from: square_ball on July 11, 2022, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 11, 2022, 10:13:49 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

This the Tyrone that scored 3-14 after extra time?

The only qualification needed to work on these panels is to have played County football. No intelligence or insight needed.

Throw in the odd cliche or two and you've got the job.

Yep. See Sean Cavanagh and Ciaran Whelan.
Wee Pat at least tries to not repeat himself, he just talks drivel.
I used to like O'Rourke, but he's gone off the rails altogether in his old age.

The whole panel needs a clear out, including the presenting team.
Cantwell....I can't listen to her at all.

I'm almost tempted to buy Sky just for the commentary. RTE is woeful.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 11, 2022, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 11, 2022, 10:15:38 AM

Clifford seemed to struggle as the game went on yesterday as well. So maybe it wasn't a one off. There was nothing in the game last year when Clifford was still on the pitch last year.

JoC said he only trained 2 weeks out of the last 2 months so understandable that he wasn't at full fitness.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 11, 2022, 04:45:23 PM
Used to never miss the Sunday game now I can take it or leave it. Certainly the analysis is dull scripted and full of cliches and statistics. Much better to listen to some of the Podcasts, plenty of good ones available.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on July 11, 2022, 04:53:09 PM
Someone in the GAA would want to have a word with whoever in RTE is responsible for the match coverage.

I thought the game yesterday was especially bad and I thought the Limerick Galway hurling semi-final last week had a lot of missed action because of replays as well.

The amount of times action in the game (especially kickouts) yesterday was missed because the director was showing replays of action has never been higher.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 11, 2022, 05:43:56 PM
Ger Canning's "I was asleep at that stage quip yesterday was a joke too. FFS like they do realise that they are slating the very thing that brings them revenue and massive viewers every year.
Like the Ulster Final was slaughtered when I found it nerve-racking. Every single ball counted when it was so cagey for periods.

Now they are saying it's a great game for purists ignoring the fact that Kerry and Galway locked shit down and that's a huge reason they are where they are.

Then they kinda want to go with the controversy and discuss big decisions as it's low-hanging fruit and doesn't involve actual analysis. Even on social media the bauld Pat has some learned off mini rant and it gets shared like TalkSport do, trying to rise people.

I thought the Tailteann Cup crew were very good and could find their groove. Depending on who is on comms and analysis for the Final I might hit up Now TV for the day pass. McElwain and the crew are just so much better and let it all flow.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2022, 06:04:42 PM
Could have sworn loads on here saying Oisín McConville great. Must be just when he was on BBC.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 11, 2022, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 11, 2022, 04:53:09 PM
Someone in the GAA would want to have a word with whoever in RTE is responsible for the match coverage.

I thought the game yesterday was especially bad and I thought the Limerick Galway hurling semi-final last week had a lot of missed action because of replays as well.

The amount of times action in the game (especially kickouts) yesterday was missed because the director was showing replays of action has never been higher.

Agree with this, for instance the replays that prevented seeing Clifford getting the yellow card. Kickouts are important nowadays in the development of the game. TG4 sometimes show a reply in a small window and that might be an option.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on July 11, 2022, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2022, 06:04:42 PM
Could have sworn loads on here saying Oisín McConville great. Must be just when he was on BBC.
McConville makes good points at times but he has a fairly monotone way of talking.

Coro Staunton also is very difficult to listen to totally monotone comes out with cliches I switched off the Sunday game last night hard to listen to them just very boring stuff. Michael Murphy was sort of the same. 

I guess that's why guys like Spillane and Brolly lasted so long and had support, they made it interesting and they had charisma and a bit of life to them even if they talked a lot of crap. The replacements can be very bland.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 11, 2022, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 11, 2022, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2022, 06:04:42 PM
Could have sworn loads on here saying Oisín McConville great. Must be just when he was on BBC.
McConville makes good points at times but he has a fairly monotone way of talking.

Coro Staunton also is very difficult to listen to totally monotone comes out with cliches I switched off the Sunday game last night hard to listen to them just very boring stuff. Michael Murphy was sort of the same. 

I guess that's why guys like Spillane and Brolly lasted so long and had support, they made it interesting and they had charisma and a bit of life to them even if they talked a lot of crap. The replacements can be very bland.

Perhaps they should bring on Benny Tierney instead of Oisin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on July 11, 2022, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2022, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 11, 2022, 06:58:11 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2022, 06:04:42 PM
Could have sworn loads on here saying Oisín McConville great. Must be just when he was on BBC.
McConville makes good points at times but he has a fairly monotone way of talking.

Coro Staunton also is very difficult to listen to totally monotone comes out with cliches I switched off the Sunday game last night hard to listen to them just very boring stuff. Michael Murphy was sort of the same. 

I guess that's why guys like Spillane and Brolly lasted so long and had support, they made it interesting and they had charisma and a bit of life to them even if they talked a lot of crap. The replacements can be very bland.

Perhaps they should bring on Benny Tierney instead of Oisin.

Surprised Tierney has never got a gig.  Probably not serious enough. Not much craic with Spillane and O'Rourke.  Borefest.

Tierney more suited to a pre final night in a bar where he can tell a few yarns and have the craic.

TSG is all a bit too serious for me.  Although the hurling lads are good. I enjoy them.  Des a bit of a pain though.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on July 11, 2022, 07:22:56 PM
Des and Cora had a conversation about what would happened if Dublin had managed to go a point ahead in the closing stages, and basically denounced Kerry's victory for not having to deal with that situation.
So they took marks away from Kerry for not dealing with a hypothetical situation which never materialised!
Should have given credit to Kerry's backs for stopping Dublin ever taking the lead with turnovers and forcing Dublin into low % shots.
Even with Dublin's great 2nd half improvement, they only managed 2 points in the last 15 minutes thanks to Kerry's defending and kickouts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on July 11, 2022, 08:14:45 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 11, 2022, 06:04:42 PM
Could have sworn loads on here saying Oisín McConville great. Must be just when he was on BBC.

Fitzmaurice and McConville two best pundits for me. I think Ciaran Whelan and Enda McGinley are decent too. Gooch and Sean Cavanagh are poor. Every game/highlights show seems to have a least one Kerry pundit regardless if Kerry are playing or not.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on July 11, 2022, 08:27:42 PM
Usually at this point, I'd say they should only ensure ex-managers are on. World of difference between a good player doing what their told, and a good coach/manager knowing what to tell.

But then Kevin McStay comes on and torpedoes that...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 11, 2022, 09:36:13 PM
And when you think RTÉ can't sink lower....Up for the Match is back next Saturday......
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: blanketattack on July 12, 2022, 10:57:39 AM
Do Sky Sports show replays of the game either in their programme schedule or online or even have a highlights programme (or maybe somewhere else  ;) ;))?
I'd like to watch Kerry v Dublin again without having to listen to Kevin McStay.
I'll have my Celine Dion cassette playing on my ghetto blaster for the Sean O'Shea free but would like to listen to some decent commentary for the rest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2022, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2022, 09:36:13 PM
And when you think RTÉ can't sink lower....Up for the Match is back next Saturday......
https://www.rte.ie/tv/audience-participation/2022/0705/1308502-up-for-the-match-audience-applications/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: onefineday on July 15, 2022, 01:43:36 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 11, 2022, 10:13:49 AM
Quote from: inroundthesquare on July 11, 2022, 10:06:17 AM
Michael Murphy last night "Kerry struggled against a very defensive Tyrone last year"

Ridiculous comment

This the Tyrone that scored 3-14 after extra time?

The only qualification needed to work on these panels is to have played County football. No intelligence or insight needed.
It's pointless having current players on, they won't give their honest opinions or provide any insights into anything, understandably, so let them retire, then try them out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 15, 2022, 06:59:17 AM
Pats Sunday World column this week talked about how Derry  couldn't use their gameplay in the "wide open spaces of Croke Park".

::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 17, 2022, 11:54:01 PM
I thought he was brought on to give insight on a great day of sport, but Donal Og seems to be on Round 3 of his gripes.
Christ I wonder what we will be subjected to next week for the football?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on July 18, 2022, 09:30:53 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 17, 2022, 11:54:01 PM
I thought he was brought on to give insight on a great day of sport, but Donal Og seems to be on Round 3 of his gripes.
Christ I wonder what we will be subjected to next week for the football?

But what better day to promote hurling?

He's right in what he said in fairness - if it's not said last night, when should it be said?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on July 18, 2022, 10:42:12 AM
I'd say the Sunday game viewing figures have dropped dramatically, but they will never share that.

People don't bother anymore as the analysis is boring and robotic. When you've rubber heads like Sean cavanagh on (and I'm a Tyrone man) he's just unbearable.

Canning, Morrisey and McStay et al have been embarrassing this year with the amount of mistakes and repeated cliches they use on commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on July 18, 2022, 10:45:20 AM
But he was already giving our about the current set-up weeks ago and using the Westmeath hurlers as an example of kids seeing their heroes. The following week one of the actual Westmeath hurlers came out and said it was great to know what you were doing and that lads could plan around it at club level.

https://twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1515666782480211969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1515666782480211969%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpunditarena.com%2Fgaa%2Fandrewdempsey%2Fdonal-og-cusack-all-ireland-summer-2022%2F

Also, as pointed by the OTB lads he was giving out about timings for fixtures when it was an RTÉ request that moved it and no-one cared to mention it.

What are we all going to do next Sunday is some statement!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: clarshack on July 18, 2022, 11:00:14 AM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on July 18, 2022, 10:42:12 AM
I'd say the Sunday game viewing figures have dropped dramatically, but they will never share that.

People don't bother anymore as the analysis is boring and robotic. When you've rubber heads like Sean cavanagh on (and I'm a Tyrone man) he's just unbearable.

Canning, Morrisey and McStay et al have been embarrassing this year with the amount of mistakes and repeated cliches they use on commentary.

Sure he's an Armagh man now...

https://armaghi.com/news/armagh-news/tyrone-legend-sean-cavanagh-on-why-armagh-is-such-a-cultural-fit-for-family-and-business/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mad tan on July 18, 2022, 02:24:40 PM
Didn't like Donal OG's comment about the Irish Rugby team on the front of the Sunday paper. If he is talking about the Indo the Hurling got lots of coverage in fact I still reading it. It was a super weekend for sport with the Hurling, Rugby and Golf plus the weather. Just thought it was a cheap shot.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 23, 2022, 10:23:15 PM
Up for the match on there now. Anna Geary wondering what's in Sean O'Shea's lunch box.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 23, 2022, 10:58:44 PM
Quote from: mad tan on July 18, 2022, 02:24:40 PM
Didn't like Donal OG's comment about the Irish Rugby team on the front of the Sunday paper. If he is talking about the Indo the Hurling got lots of coverage in fact I still reading it. It was a super weekend for sport with the Hurling, Rugby and Golf plus the weather. Just thought it was a cheap shot.

Minority sport worries about minority sport getting more coverage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Soju on July 24, 2022, 07:58:18 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 11, 2022, 09:36:13 PM
And when you think RTÉ can't sink lower....Up for the Match is back next Saturday......
Total cringe fest!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 02:14:00 PM
I'm not going to miss Spillane.

But as it seems we have reached a point whereby him, Cantwell, Cavanagh and Whelan is RTE's big game panel, then the only bearable one of that quartet is the one who's leaving.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 24, 2022, 02:26:43 PM
The days of permanent panels are over, imo
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 24, 2022, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 02:14:00 PM
I'm not going to miss Spillane.

But as it seems we have reached a point whereby him, Cantwell, Cavanagh and Whelan is RTE's big game panel, then the only bearable one of that quartet is the one who's leaving.

You've certainly set a low bar   :P
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on July 24, 2022, 02:28:27 PM
I like the way Whelan picked out the Tailltean Cup as moment of the year.

Nice touch.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 24, 2022, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 02:14:00 PM
I'm not going to miss Spillane.

But as it seems we have reached a point whereby him, Cantwell, Cavanagh and Whelan is RTE's big game panel, then the only bearable one of that quartet is the one who's leaving.

Once I saw Cavanagh on my mind was made up, I'll be watching sky. Immature and pathetic pundit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 24, 2022, 02:41:30 PM
I was never a fan of Spillane but it's his last broadcast and Cavanagh can't say anything nice. Needs to follow him out the door.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 03:07:47 PM
Never watch the lead up to games, pure puke talk so never really had much judgement on Cavanagh, what a dick! Just be a pundit, talk about the game the match ups the way you'll think it will go and leave the 'jokes' to comedians
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 24, 2022, 03:10:55 PM
Spillane got a lovely present

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1551194526190112770
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 03:17:43 PM
Shane Walsh is a better player that David Clifford... big Statement
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2022, 03:23:44 PM
Sean Cavanagh and pat spillane. What a team  :o

Who said Walsh better than Clifford? Do they know anything about football?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 03:45:56 PM
Anyone listening in would think Paddy Tally was actually playing considering the amount of times he's been mentioned
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 24, 2022, 04:12:24 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 03:17:43 PM
Shane Walsh is a better player that David Clifford... big Statement

Conor McCluskey looking like a better player than tom o'sullivan based on that first half certainly. Should be a nailed on all star. Good game so far.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 04:22:45 PM
Trying to enter the competition there but not allowed  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 24, 2022, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

Lol what did he say?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on July 24, 2022, 04:47:47 PM
Cavanagh trying too hard to be funny...but he's not
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2022, 06:14:29 PM
I really hope cavanagh doesn't get thirty years. He's not good at all. Whelan comes across as a genuine decent guy rather than a headline grabber but not sure he has it either. It wasn't the best line up tbh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: red hander on July 24, 2022, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: Gael80 on July 24, 2022, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

Pat should of threw back at him about the free in the 05 semi final or the wrongful dismissal that you could say decided the 03 final. What Cavanagh is complaining about could be argued two ways, no time for that and it's why RTE pundits are too involved in the emotion.

It was tongue in cheek (even if based on fact). Nothing wrong with free in 2005, obvious foul. And Armagh could still be playing to this day and they wouldn't have won 2003 final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 06:23:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 03:45:56 PM
Anyone listening in would think Paddy Tally was actually playing considering the amount of times he's been mentioned

🤣🤣Remarked that alright. Every time a Kerry player put in a tackle Darragh Maloney said 'that has Paddy Tally written all over it.' I watched the semi final in a bar and if I had a pound for every time I heard his name mentioned I'd be a rich man.

I don't know how much influence he actually had but he seems to get more credit than Jack O'Connor.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 06:30:57 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 24, 2022, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

Lol what did he say?

What did Cavanagh say? He's a hard man to listen to always getting little snide remarks in but him and Spillane are well matched in that respect.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on July 24, 2022, 06:41:52 PM
The Dublin All Ireland winning side of 95 were being introduced and Whelan was talking about how he joined the panel the following year and just missed out.  Cavanagh then piped up and said something about how they got the 95 winning side out before most of the crowd were in as karma for being gifted an All-Ireland by Paddy Russell that year...was abit daft
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2022, 06:49:11 PM
He's not really blessed with much of a sense of humour tbh. Obviously very capable guy just not on a humour level.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on July 24, 2022, 06:49:22 PM
If anyone in RTE is reading this, Cavanagh ain't an analyst, best to be left off for the future.  Couldn't believe it when he came on today, surely you assemble your best panel for an All Ireland Final, that definitely wasn't it today by a long way.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on July 24, 2022, 06:49:22 PM
If anyone in RTE is reading this, Cavanagh ain't an analyst, best to be left off for the future.  Couldn't believe it when he came on today, surely you assemble your best panel for an All Ireland Final, that definitely wasn't it today by a long way.

I don't like Cavanagh as an analyst but Spillane shouldn't have been there if it's based on punditry skills or more importantly since he had skin in the game.

Similarly on Sky, Donaghy shouldn't have been there. Too many Kerry in the media.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim Bob on July 24, 2022, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

I'd say you are only saying that...not a bit of you switched over...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim Bob on July 24, 2022, 07:03:22 PM
Well done Paddy Tally...it took a Tyrone man to go down there and sort their team out for them ..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 24, 2022, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on July 24, 2022, 06:49:22 PM
If anyone in RTE is reading this, Cavanagh ain't an analyst, best to be left off for the future.  Couldn't believe it when he came on today, surely you assemble your best panel for an All Ireland Final, that definitely wasn't it today by a long way.

I only watched RTE for a short time before Sky started their coverage and i thought cavanagh was a disgrace. First he tried to pick a fight with Spillane over which point was better, O'Sheas or Rian O'neill's when in actual fact anyone with an ounce of wit knows they were both superb points under pressure. Then he made a snide, childish and distasteful comment about Dublin's 1995 winning team. He should not be allowed near a tv studio again.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 24, 2022, 08:14:19 PM
Yes, could Cavanagh please follow Spillane out the door please.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 24, 2022, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

I'd say you are only saying that...not a bit of you switched over...

I did actually. Could listen to Canavan all day. McGuinness not far behind. Even Donaghy a massive upgrade on RTÉ panel.

It wasn't specifically because of that one comment; just the realisation there were likely to similarly banal ones throughout the analysis. And life's short enough.

Though there were times during the game that I had to turn back to RTÉ as Sky picture was dropping. But that was ok because Darragh moloney was commentating.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 24, 2022, 09:02:31 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 24, 2022, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

I'd say you are only saying that...not a bit of you switched over...

I did actually. Could listen to Canavan all day. McGuinness not far behind. Even Donaghy a massive upgrade on RTÉ panel.

It wasn't specifically because of that one comment; just the realisation there were likely to similarly banal ones throughout the analysis. And life's short enough.

Though there were times during the game that I had to turn back to RTÉ as Sky picture was dropping. But that was ok because Darragh moloney was commentating.

Imagine paying for shite picture
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 24, 2022, 09:13:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 24, 2022, 09:02:31 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 24, 2022, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

I'd say you are only saying that...not a bit of you switched over...

I did actually. Could listen to Canavan all day. McGuinness not far behind. Even Donaghy a massive upgrade on RTÉ panel.

It wasn't specifically because of that one comment; just the realisation there were likely to similarly banal ones throughout the analysis. And life's short enough.

Though there were times during the game that I had to turn back to RTÉ as Sky picture was dropping. But that was ok because Darragh moloney was commentating.

Imagine paying for shite picture

I watched on sky,picture never dropped once. Saw someone saying that on twitter but I never had a problem.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 24, 2022, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 24, 2022, 09:13:53 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 24, 2022, 09:02:31 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 08:18:41 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on July 24, 2022, 07:00:42 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 03:17:06 PM
Switched to Sky after Cavanagh's comment on Paddy Russell and Dublin.

I'd say you are only saying that...not a bit of you switched over...

I did actually. Could listen to Canavan all day. McGuinness not far behind. Even Donaghy a massive upgrade on RTÉ panel.

It wasn't specifically because of that one comment; just the realisation there were likely to similarly banal ones throughout the analysis. And life's short enough.

Though there were times during the game that I had to turn back to RTÉ as Sky picture was dropping. But that was ok because Darragh moloney was commentating.

Imagine paying for shite picture

I watched on sky,picture never dropped once. Saw someone saying that on twitter but I never had a problem.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/gaelic-football-news/sky-sports-apologise-almost-unwatchable-27564333
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 09:28:39 PM
There were definite and persistent problems on Sky, they even had the onscreen apology message. I had to switch to RTE as it was unwatchable
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
I think Sean will improve with Spillane not there. He seemed too concerned with trying to wind him up and I think it started to grate with even Pat by the end.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 24, 2022, 10:04:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
I think Sean will improve with Spillane not there. He seemed too concerned with trying to wind him up and I think it started to grate with even Pat by the end.

You'd get better analysis from a 12 year old child than cavanagh. He thinks he's funny and seems to be thinking of what would provide a laugh to his mates rather than actually thinking about the game. He comes across as extremely immature and unlikeable. He's not funny at all and his analysis is pathetic so I'm not sure why he's there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 09:40:17 PM
I think Sean will improve with Spillane not there. He seemed too concerned with trying to wind him up and I think it started to grate with even Pat by the end.

I don't think he has the right personality for the role he's just not watchable...

Along with that do we need 6 opinions on the game today?? Surely 3-4 is plenty?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: red hander on July 24, 2022, 10:12:13 PM
Quote from: lenny on July 24, 2022, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on July 24, 2022, 06:49:22 PM
If anyone in RTE is reading this, Cavanagh ain't an analyst, best to be left off for the future.  Couldn't believe it when he came on today, surely you assemble your best panel for an All Ireland Final, that definitely wasn't it today by a long way.

I only watched RTE for a short time before Sky started their coverage and i thought cavanagh was a disgrace. First he tried to pick a fight with Spillane over which point was better, O'Sheas or Rian O'neill's when in actual fact anyone with an ounce of wit knows they were both superb points under pressure. Then he made a snide, childish and distasteful comment about Dublin's 1995 winning team. He should not be allowed near a tv studio again.

Truth hurts, doesn't it...
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:13:08 PM
Gallagher fluffing his lines here
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight

Two Kerry's tonight and one Kerry earlier. Yet no one from Galway. How can you give fair analysis with that type of representation.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:13:08 PM
Gallagher fluffing his lines here
Mentioned Dara Moynihan in the half forward even though he didn't play.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight

Two Kerry's tonight and one Kerry earlier. Yet no one from Galway. How can you give fair analysis with that type of representation.

Token broad has to be factored in too
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:23:55 PM
Alright kidder
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There's no need for a ladies footballer.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There's no need for a ladies footballer.
She has most research done and knowledge among the pundits tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There's no need for a ladies footballer.
She has most research done and knowledge among the pundits tonight.

Will there be a male pundit next week?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There's no need for a ladies footballer.
She has most research done and knowledge among the pundits tonight.

Sure get a journalist in then.

They do research and know the game.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on July 24, 2022, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight

Two Kerry's tonight and one Kerry earlier. Yet no one from Galway. How can you give fair analysis with that type of representation.

Token broad has to be factored in too
The one who's a medical doctor and has five All Ireland's.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There’s no need for a ladies footballer.
She has most research done and knowledge among the pundits tonight.

Sure get a journalist in then.

They do research and know the game.

Plenty of the national journalists struggle with the correct spelling of names of players outside of Kerry,Dublin and Mayo.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 24, 2022, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight

Two Kerry's tonight and one Kerry earlier. Yet no one from Galway. How can you give fair analysis with that type of representation.

Token broad has to be factored in too
The one who's a medical doctor and has give All Ireland's.

In the mens game ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 24, 2022, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight

Two Kerry's tonight and one Kerry earlier. Yet no one from Galway. How can you give fair analysis with that type of representation.

Token broad has to be factored in too
The one who's a medical doctor and has five All Ireland's.

Not sure how being a medical professional is relevant.

Really not sure how winning trophies in a completely different completion is relevant.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There's no need for a ladies footballer.
She has most research done and knowledge among the pundits tonight.

Sure get a journalist in then.

They do research and know the game.

Plenty of the national journalists struggle with the correct spelling of names of players outside of Kerry,Dublin and Mayo.

Sorry, did the Dublin lady pass a spelling test that I wasn't aware of?

She has as much right to be sitting there as someone from a league of Ireland team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on July 24, 2022, 10:38:52 PM
All looks a bit awkward, 6 of them sitting in a semi circle looking at each other
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 10:41:54 PM
I have no problem with the female perspective just don't know why they need 6 people there.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 24, 2022, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:34:45 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:31:54 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:27:15 PM
Less is more with pundits.

Eamon, Oisin and either Rory/Colm would be enough to get a proper discussion going.

Gooch is useless. There's no need for a ladies footballer.
She has most research done and knowledge among the pundits tonight.

Sure get a journalist in then.

They do research and know the game.

Plenty of the national journalists struggle with the correct spelling of names of players outside of Kerry,Dublin and Mayo.

Sorry, did the Dublin lady pass a spelling test that I wasn't aware of?

She has as much right to be sitting there as someone from a league of Ireland team.

If she was doing badly as a pundit you might have a point.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:43:02 PM
She has spoke better than the two colms and rory
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on July 24, 2022, 10:45:09 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on July 24, 2022, 10:34:21 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 24, 2022, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 10:06:11 PM
Why do they need 6 people on the panel tonight

Two Kerry's tonight and one Kerry earlier. Yet no one from Galway. How can you give fair analysis with that type of representation.

Token broad has to be factored in too
The one who's a medical doctor and has five All Ireland's.

Not sure how being a medical professional is relevant.

Really not sure how winning trophies in a completely different completion is relevant.
Just calling out the shitty term "broad".  She's a top class person in every sense and is adding to the panel.

Not sure how being a woman is relevant - she can watch the game and analyse just as well as the next person.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
And that's my point.

If all we want is someone to research and speak well, get in a journalist.

Don't pretend to me that someone who played ladies football has the right to be sitting among all Ireland winners, discussing the all Ireland final on national tv.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael80 on July 24, 2022, 10:46:56 PM
Good show tonight, they dealt with that free discussion well I thought, even introducing a bit of humour to it, best linking it to another free. I'm sure there isn't much humour in the Galway camp over it though, it led to Kerry's late surge. You could sense the awkwardness in the studio with the two Kerry lads there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mayo Border on July 24, 2022, 10:50:05 PM
So will Dublin Des circle his panel and solemnly ask each one "Will Galway win the All Ireland next year"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 10:50:46 PM
Quote from: Gael80 on July 24, 2022, 10:46:56 PM
Good show tonight, they dealt with that free discussion well I thought, even introducing a bit of humour to it, best linking it to another free. I'm sure there isn't much humour in the Galway camp over it though, it led to Kerry's late surge. You could sense the awkwardness in the studio with the two Kerry lads there.

Haven't watched clip again, was the initial 'tackle' around the neck like someone said earlier?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
And that's my point.

If all we want is someone to research and speak well, get in a journalist.

Don't pretend to me that someone who played ladies football has the right to be sitting among all Ireland winners, discussing the all Ireland final on national tv.

She has spoken as well if not better than most on the panel why shouldn't she be there? Who makes the rules on that? What right does having an All Ireland medal give you to commentate on a game?

Communication skills and voicing your opinion eloquently is much more important in that scenario rather than medals won!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 11:10:33 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
And that's my point.

If all we want is someone to research and speak well, get in a journalist.

Don't pretend to me that someone who played ladies football has the right to be sitting among all Ireland winners, discussing the all Ireland final on national tv.

She has spoken as well if not better than most on the panel why shouldn't she be there? Who makes the rules on that? What right does having an All Ireland medal give you to commentate on a game?

Communication skills and voicing your opinion eloquently is much more important in that scenario rather than medals won!

Then what's stopping you from being on?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on July 24, 2022, 11:12:10 PM
Some shocking attitudes here
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 11:12:42 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
And that's my point.

If all we want is someone to research and speak well, get in a journalist.

Don't pretend to me that someone who played ladies football has the right to be sitting among all Ireland winners, discussing the all Ireland final on national tv.

She has spoken as well if not better than most on the panel why shouldn't she be there? Who makes the rules on that? What right does having an All Ireland medal give you to commentate on a game?

Communication skills and voicing your opinion eloquently is much more important in that scenario rather than medals won!

But it's not. 30 seconds of Rory Gallagher describing pitch invasions and a county getting behind their team from an internal perspective, is great to listen to.

The Dublin girl can't do that. She could talk perfect sense for four hours straight but cannot produce nuggets like that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:14:29 PM
You want people on who see things you don't, and aren't afeard to express it.

Oisin, McGinley, Brolly and Spillane have it.

The rest you can sort of predict their answers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:15:01 PM
And Gallagher.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on July 24, 2022, 11:19:29 PM
Quote from: smort on July 24, 2022, 11:12:10 PM
Some shocking attitudes here

You must be easily "shocked"
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on July 24, 2022, 11:24:13 PM
Panels team of the year

Shane Ryan
Liam Silke
Jason Foley
Chrissy McKaigue
James McCarthy
Tadhg Morley
Gavin White
Rian O'Neill
Cillian McDaid
Paudie Clifford
Sean O'Shea
Kieran Kilkenny
David Clifford
Damien Comer
Shane Walsh

Footballer of the year David Clifford. Shane Walsh and Cillian McDaid nominated.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:26:42 PM
Thought Derry deserved 2 really with one from either Glass McCluskey or Rogers.

Glass and Rogers having poor semi finals maybe did for them but McCluskey played at a top level from day 1 through to the Galway game where he roasted Shane Walsh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael80 on July 24, 2022, 11:33:18 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:26:42 PM
Thought Derry deserved 2 really with one from either Glass McCluskey or Rogers.

Glass and Rogers having poor semi finals maybe did for them but McCluskey played at a top level from day 1 through to the Galway game where he roasted Shane Walsh.

I'd agree but when they discussed players who missed out you realise the challenge. I know Gallagher mentioned McCarthy, but he almost beat the eventual All Ireland Champions himself in an All Ireland semi final, for that alone he deserves his place. Glass is close but it's clear from their team O'Neill would have to miss out to accomodate him, O'Neill edges it imo.

There is always changes to the eventual All Star team from the one selected by the SG so lets see. There are a lot of Kerry pundits on the SG, and whilst Ryan had a decent season, won an All Ireland, I think a wider panel will give Rafferty the nod, you could sense that is where the SG debate was.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 11:34:48 PM
Gooch on a panel that picks his club mate White. McCarthy had one good game but must be in due to a lifetime service award. Morley, O'Sullivan, Molloy and McCloskey are all ahead of those 2 players in defence imo. Rodgers also but he won't get one.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 11:36:40 PM
Nothing on that 'tackle'? Any mention in how well Hurson covered the game?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 11:37:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 11:34:48 PM
Gooch on a panel that picks his club mate White. McCarthy had one good game but must be in due to a lifetime service award. Morley, O'Sullivan, Molloy and McCloskey are all ahead of those 2 players in defence imo. Rodgers also but he won't get one.

McCarthy is always good, and against the eventual champions was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch. Head and shoulders.

All stars should be the best players in Ireland at a snapshot in time. Thats still where McCarthy is.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.

I think he deserves one and that was his best chance.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:41:09 PM
Quote from: Gael80 on July 24, 2022, 11:33:18 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:26:42 PM
Thought Derry deserved 2 really with one from either Glass McCluskey or Rogers.

Glass and Rogers having poor semi finals maybe did for them but McCluskey played at a top level from day 1 through to the Galway game where he roasted Shane Walsh.

I'd agree but when they discussed players who missed out you realise the challenge. I know Gallagher mentioned McCarthy, but he almost beat the eventual All Ireland Champions himself in an All Ireland semi final, for that alone he deserves his place. Glass is close but it's clear from their team O'Neill would have to miss out to accomodate him, O'Neill edges it imo.

There is always changes to the eventual All Star team from the one selected by the SG so lets see. There are a lot of Kerry pundits on the SG, and whilst Murphy had a decent season, won an All Ireland, I think a wider panel will give Rafferty the nod, you could sense that is where the SG debate was.

O'Neill the second best midfielder this year?

Rogers and McKinless played more minutes and had better games there than him. And neither would be seriously considered for a slot there. And that's before we mention Glass.

Some folk aren't near wise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: gallsman on July 24, 2022, 11:42:16 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
And that's my point.

If all we want is someone to research and speak well, get in a journalist.

Don't pretend to me that someone who played ladies football has the right to be sitting among all Ireland winners, discussing the all Ireland final on national tv.

The f**king state of this. Christ almighty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.

I think he deserves one and that was his best chance.

Tokenism.

Stick him in goals then. Every bit as much right to win one there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 11:45:17 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on July 24, 2022, 11:37:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 24, 2022, 11:34:48 PM
Gooch on a panel that picks his club mate White. McCarthy had one good game but must be in due to a lifetime service award. Morley, O'Sullivan, Molloy and McCloskey are all ahead of those 2 players in defence imo. Rodgers also but he won't get one.

McCarthy is always good, and against the eventual champions was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch. Head and shoulders.

All stars should be the best players in Ireland at a snapshot in time. Thats still where McCarthy is.

You could make a very strong argument that McCarthy was Dublins finest player over their golden era, that's not in question. But I thought he struggled to reproduce the levels that we have become accustomed to this season until the semi final where he was excellent. I don't think many would have him in their team for 2022.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mario on July 24, 2022, 11:45:42 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 24, 2022, 11:26:42 PM
Thought Derry deserved 2 really with one from either Glass McCluskey or Rogers.

Glass and Rogers having poor semi finals maybe did for them but McCluskey played at a top level from day 1 through to the Galway game where he roasted Shane Walsh.
It's as much about the media hype as anything and no one was talking about mccluskey being in contention before the semi final, even within Derry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on July 24, 2022, 11:47:01 PM
John Daly was better than mccluskey.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 11:50:43 PM
Is there not an all star thread?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on July 24, 2022, 11:54:29 PM
Discussion is about the Sunday Game team of the year so correct thread.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:55:11 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.

I think he deserves one and that was his best chance.

Tokenism.

Stick him in goals then. Every bit as much right to win one there.

Do you think he didn't play midfield?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 24, 2022, 11:58:42 PM
Quote from: square_ball on July 24, 2022, 11:54:29 PM
Discussion is about the Sunday Game team of the year so correct thread.

Mentioning all stars in post above mine
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 25, 2022, 12:00:26 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:55:11 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.

I think he deserves one and that was his best chance.

Tokenism.

Stick him in goals then. Every bit as much right to win one there.

Do you think he didn't play midfield?

Nowhere near enough to be considered in the top two.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 12:14:38 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
Highlights there was few real stand out midfielders this year, the way the game is gone suppose. McDaid wasn't really either, was as much helping out in defence and scoring or creating that playing in midfield.  He's a natural wing half back.

Rory Gallagher was very poor but won't get the criticism from thewobbler as he wasn't wearing a dress.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2022, 12:19:30 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 12:14:38 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
Highlights there was few real stand out midfielders this year, the way the game is gone suppose. McDaid wasn't really either, was as much helping out in defence and scoring or creating that playing in midfield.  He's a natural wing half back.

Rory Gallagher was very poor but won't get the criticism from thewobbler as he wasn't wearing a dress.

Maybe wobbler isn't expressing it as well as he wants, but no men (that I've watched)  have been on ladies  football or camogie, hopefully next weekend will be different
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on July 25, 2022, 12:40:51 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 12:14:38 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
Highlights there was few real stand out midfielders this year, the way the game is gone suppose. McDaid wasn't really either, was as much helping out in defence and scoring or creating that playing in midfield.  He's a natural wing half back.

Rory Gallagher was very poor but won't get the criticism from thewobbler as he wasn't wearing a dress.

Why?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: onefineday on July 25, 2022, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
It seems like Gallagher was drafted in last minute to cover for Cora Staunton. Bit awkward imo having a current manager of a team there, thought he was fine, very limited in what he can say there given his current role.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 25, 2022, 07:15:21 AM
Ridiculous Brendan Rogers not on team of the year!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on July 25, 2022, 08:48:15 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 25, 2022, 07:15:21 AM
Ridiculous Brendan Rogers not on team of the year!

With all due respect to Derry, their players were brilliant in ulster in the provincials. After that they didn't do enough.
While I agree players like comer didn't exactly cement their place in Sunday Game TOTY -

Kerry beat mayo in the quarters and Dublin in the semis to reach the final. Galway beat Armagh and then Derry.

Derry's all Ireland this year was ulster and a great achievement, as their own supporters said - anything after that was bonus territory.

They could only beat the what was in front of them but ultimately they drew the worst team left in the competition in Clare, and then were appalling against Galway when it really mattered.

Rogers was roasted by Comer and had no answers to him at the biggest stage, a semi final. Shane McGuigan did FA from play either. Mccluskey kept Walsh quiet yes but derry were still well beat.

Dublin pushed the now all Ireland champions right to the end of the game.

Derry getting one All star probably about right.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 25, 2022, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: onefineday on July 25, 2022, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
It seems like Gallagher was drafted in last minute to cover for Cora Staunton. Bit awkward imo having a current manager of a team there, thought he was fine, very limited in what he can say there given his current role.

Also it needs context. Des Cahill is shocking and put some very strange questions/comments to him the others!

Eamon Fitz was doing a better job of presenting than Des last night I thought. Thoughtful, bringing others into the conversation and name checking!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 25, 2022, 10:41:27 AM
Quote from: WT4E on July 25, 2022, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: onefineday on July 25, 2022, 01:25:35 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 24, 2022, 11:31:20 PM
I don't think Rian O'Neill was the second best midfielder this year.

Gallagher, for a deep thinker like him, was poor tonight.
It seems like Gallagher was drafted in last minute to cover for Cora Staunton. Bit awkward imo having a current manager of a team there, thought he was fine, very limited in what he can say there given his current role.

Also it needs context. Des Cahill is shocking and put some very strange questions/comments to him the others!

Eamon Fitz was doing a better job of presenting than Des last night I thought. Thoughtful, bringing others into the conversation and name checking!


Fitzmaurice is a very good pundit, if you can get around the droll voice he talks an awful lot of sense and knows the game. Probably best in co-commentary as he can see things during the game that others don't and relay them to the viewer. I normally don't mind McStay but he was a bit of a dose yesterday on co-commentary.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 25, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
RTÉ could do us all a favour by getting rid of Cahill and " I didn't see what happened there" McStay
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 25, 2022, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 25, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
RTÉ could do us all a favour by getting rid of Cahill and " I didn't see what happened there" McStay
You could add Cantwell, Whelan and Cavanagh to that list.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
I have yet to see anyone see anything positive on Cavanagh. Whelan isn't fantastic but you could stomach him a bit more as he comes across as an alright sort and isn't constantly trying to score points for himself.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: caprea on July 25, 2022, 01:05:07 PM
Commentary was dull yesterday, the rte commentary staff could learn a bit from AFL and Bein sports Qatari commentators
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 25, 2022, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
I have yet to see anyone see anything positive on Cavanagh. Whelan isn't fantastic but you could stomach him a bit more as he comes across as an alright sort and isn't constantly trying to score points for himself.

Point scoring. Thats it in a nutshell. Even the most innocent comment seems to have to be jumped on to get one up on the rival analyst/county. I rarely watch but Cavanagh at it steady and in general is far from a natural and a hard boy to warm tol. With Pat going he may improve but i wouldnt hold my breath
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on July 25, 2022, 01:25:37 PM
First world problems
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on July 25, 2022, 01:58:00 PM
Re the team of the year - the named half back line are all good players of course but John Daly was the best number 6 in Ireland this year. Played well in every single game.
Morley is a good player but Daly was better in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rrhf on July 25, 2022, 02:00:14 PM
actually really enjoyed last nights panel..
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 04:27:06 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 25, 2022, 01:58:00 PM
Re the team of the year - the named half back line are all good players of course but John Daly was the best number 6 in Ireland this year. Played well in every single game.
Morley is a good player but Daly was better in my opinion.
John Daly has been good in every game however key to Kerry's All Ireland success was their improvement in defence and for me the role Morley has played was huge in their system and improvement. Jason Foley another who has really stood out at full back. When the All stars are picked all three should be selected.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 25, 2022, 04:39:35 PM
Unpopular opinion - don't get the Morley hype! At all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
I have yet to see anyone see anything positive on Cavanagh. Whelan isn't fantastic but you could stomach him a bit more as he comes across as an alright sort and isn't constantly trying to score points for himself.

Sean Cavanagh's Laochra Gael shows exactly what he's like.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2022, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 25, 2022, 04:39:35 PM
Unpopular opinion - don't get the Morley hype! At all.
Well the popular opinion is David Clifford alone won Kerry the All-Ireland.


Kerry as i stated on here myself when they were managed by Peter Keane weren't good enough defensively to win the All-Ireland. Easy to score against and they had a habit of switching off and conceding soft goals. Tyrone exploited that soft centre last year with three goals.

Now under Jack O'Connor they have fixed the structure of their defence, the roles Morley, Foley are playing is key to their improvement they rarely give up goals chances anymore and remember yesterday they were up against a Galway team that had scored 11 goals in 5 games coming into that final. Their displine in the tackle and high turnover count has been highly impressive this year.

The team with the best defence more often than not wins the All-Ireland and that was certainly Kerry this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 25, 2022, 06:04:03 PM
Two forwards out of six scoring is good defending.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: galwayman on July 25, 2022, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
I have yet to see anyone see anything positive on Cavanagh. Whelan isn't fantastic but you could stomach him a bit more as he comes across as an alright sort and isn't constantly trying to score points for himself.

Sean Cavanagh's Laochra Gael shows exactly what he's like.
Didn't see that Laochra Gael I think.
He's atrocious as a pundit tho. And comes across as a w**ker to be honest
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Real Talk on July 25, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Number 1 .... Sean Cavanagh loves Sean Cavanagh.  When Brian Dooher was playing for Tyrone he did the 'donkey work' ( ie handed him easy ball) for him and he was a very efficient and effective cog in that Tyrone set -up .... when Dooher retired Sean Cavanagh wasn't nearly as effective or as influential.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on July 25, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
Jases poor Cavanagh getting an awful load of abuse!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Targetman on July 25, 2022, 09:27:10 PM
Cavanagh was a very good player, did tend to go to ground a bit easily but doesn't come across very well on TV, the majority of people wouldn't be big fans and that includes Tyrone ones.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: galwayman on July 25, 2022, 07:29:38 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 25, 2022, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 25, 2022, 12:26:57 PM
I have yet to see anyone see anything positive on Cavanagh. Whelan isn't fantastic but you could stomach him a bit more as he comes across as an alright sort and isn't constantly trying to score points for himself.

Sean Cavanagh's Laochra Gael shows exactly what he's like.
Didn't see that Laochra Gael I think.
He's atrocious as a pundit tho. And comes across as a w**ker to be honest

It's still on tg4 player. He was disappointed after winning all ireland as he didn't get motm.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on July 26, 2022, 08:23:07 AM
Great chance for the Sunday Game to get some real pundits on now with Spillane gone, Brolly gone and surely O Rourke gone now too. Surely someone in RTE has the brains to get some people in that actually understand the modern game? Or maybe they'll just stick with picking people like Sean Cavanagh and Cora Staunton - god help us.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on July 26, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
The problem is that a huge swathe of the Sunday Game audience are not interested in tactics, statistics and the intricacies of the game. They want to see a circus where people say outlandish things.
The older generation do not care how many sweepers a team uses. As well as that, they tend to be more anglophobic as well so will only watch RTE out of principle so there's no reason for RTE to change the format. They will always have that audience.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 26, 2022, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Real Talk on July 25, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Number 1 .... Sean Cavanagh loves Sean Cavanagh.  When Brian Dooher was playing for Tyrone he did the 'donkey work' ( ie handed him easy ball) for him and he was a very efficient and effective cog in that Tyrone set -up .... when Dooher retired Sean Cavanagh wasn't nearly as effective or as influential.

I personally think he was one of the most overrated players in the Tyrone setup during those years.
I always remember thinking he showed up well when a game was already won, getting a couple of scores maybe in the last 10 when they were already 8 up.
Rarely was he the player to pull them through in a difficult game.
Dooher, as you say, was that type of player.
He has nothing of interest to say in the punditry side of things. Stutters a lot and repeats lots of cliche's but no real insights.
He's certainly got more confident in the role than he was, but he brings nothing to it.

I'd much prefer to listen to people with their own opinions rather than this sanitised repetitive jargon. The result is that every game has the same commentary and analysis with nothing insightful or entertaining to offer. I used to always watch the RTE pre-match, half-time and post game analysis. I just cant bring myself to do it now.....a complete bore-fest which is chaired by the queen of bore in Cantwell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Applesisapples on July 26, 2022, 09:48:35 AM
Sunday Game is not a patch on Sky as a product. Better analysis and no Get Canning.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rudi on July 26, 2022, 10:15:41 AM
Eamon Fitz is the only pudit worth talking about on RTE. Some of the pundits / presenters that did the Tailteann are worth a second look. Des Cahill, Ger Canning, Dessie Dolan, Gouch, Colm O Rourke, Gulpin Whelan, Cora & Kevin Mc should feck the hell off. As for that utter gobshite Sean Cavanagh.

At least Martin Carney, Joe Bollix, Davy Brady & Pateen are gone. Darragh Maloney not to bad. Hopefully Maughan doesn't get ideas.

The world doesn't need another eggit pundit from Mayo, thank goodness for Sky, Jimbo, Canavan & female presenter are class.

Oisin McConville not to bad either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: nrico2006 on July 26, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 26, 2022, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Real Talk on July 25, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Number 1 .... Sean Cavanagh loves Sean Cavanagh.  When Brian Dooher was playing for Tyrone he did the 'donkey work' ( ie handed him easy ball) for him and he was a very efficient and effective cog in that Tyrone set -up .... when Dooher retired Sean Cavanagh wasn't nearly as effective or as influential.

I personally think he was one of the most overrated players in the Tyrone setup during those years.
I always remember thinking he showed up well when a game was already won, getting a couple of scores maybe in the last 10 when they were already 8 up.
Rarely was he the player to pull them through in a difficult game.
Dooher, as you say, was that type of player.
He has nothing of interest to say in the punditry side of things. Stutters a lot and repeats lots of cliche's but no real insights.
He's certainly got more confident in the role than he was, but he brings nothing to it.

I'd much prefer to listen to people with their own opinions rather than this sanitised repetitive jargon. The result is that every game has the same commentary and analysis with nothing insightful or entertaining to offer. I used to always watch the RTE pre-match, half-time and post game analysis. I just cant bring myself to do it now.....a complete bore-fest which is chaired by the queen of bore in Cantwell.

Cavanagh is hard to like but that is nonsense.  He pulled Tyrone through many a difficult game.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 10:31:52 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 26, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
The problem is that a huge swathe of the Sunday Game audience are not interested in tactics, statistics and the intricacies of the game. They want to see a circus where people say outlandish things.
The older generation do not care how many sweepers a team uses. As well as that, they tend to be more anglophobic as well so will only watch RTE out of principle so there's no reason for RTE to change the format. They will always have that audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slMub4NtrSk
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: Itchy on July 26, 2022, 08:23:07 AM
Great chance for the Sunday Game to get some real pundits on now with Spillane gone, Brolly gone and surely O Rourke gone now too. Surely someone in RTE has the brains to get some people in that actually understand the modern game? Or maybe they'll just stick with picking people like Sean Cavanagh and Cora Staunton - god help us.
It's amazing that the 3 stalwarts are going, gone.
Cantwell may not be permanent either.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 26, 2022, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 26, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 26, 2022, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Real Talk on July 25, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Number 1 .... Sean Cavanagh loves Sean Cavanagh.  When Brian Dooher was playing for Tyrone he did the 'donkey work' ( ie handed him easy ball) for him and he was a very efficient and effective cog in that Tyrone set -up .... when Dooher retired Sean Cavanagh wasn't nearly as effective or as influential.

I personally think he was one of the most overrated players in the Tyrone setup during those years.
I always remember thinking he showed up well when a game was already won, getting a couple of scores maybe in the last 10 when they were already 8 up.
Rarely was he the player to pull them through in a difficult game.
Dooher, as you say, was that type of player.
He has nothing of interest to say in the punditry side of things. Stutters a lot and repeats lots of cliche's but no real insights.
He's certainly got more confident in the role than he was, but he brings nothing to it.

I'd much prefer to listen to people with their own opinions rather than this sanitised repetitive jargon. The result is that every game has the same commentary and analysis with nothing insightful or entertaining to offer. I used to always watch the RTE pre-match, half-time and post game analysis. I just cant bring myself to do it now.....a complete bore-fest which is chaired by the queen of bore in Cantwell.

Cavanagh is hard to like but that is nonsense.  He pulled Tyrone through many a difficult game.

Yeah it's absolute nonsense. He scored 5 from play in his adopted position of full forward in 08 all ireland final which is more than either Clifford or Walsh got from play on Sunday. It included a few very important scores in the second half. He got a crucial score towards the end of the 05 semi final v Armagh and dragged Tyrone over the line in 2017 ulster final against Donegal. That's just a few that spring to mind.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 10:52:35 AM
Yeah Cavanagh not overly likeable but he was a fantastic footballer. Tyrone would less than 4 all irelands without him. He was one of the best players of his era.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: In hiding on July 26, 2022, 11:18:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 10:52:35 AM
Yeah Cavanagh not overly likeable but he was a fantastic footballer. Tyrone would less than 4 all irelands without him. He was one of the best players of his era.
+1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Cyril Farrell fan on July 26, 2022, 11:34:50 AM
It's time for RTE to have a Red Button option where people can watch some deeper tactical analysis.
The main feed can be the usual very general O'Rourke, Spillane, Brolly type punditry that doesn't give much insight - Cavan are a proud football county, Meath always keep battling till the end.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 03,05,08 on July 26, 2022, 11:37:00 AM
Cavanagh not very likeable, which makes people forget that he was one of the best players about in the noughties, probably just behind canavan and O'Neill for our best player ever (I never seen Frank play)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael80 on July 26, 2022, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 26, 2022, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 26, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 26, 2022, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Real Talk on July 25, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Number 1 .... Sean Cavanagh loves Sean Cavanagh.  When Brian Dooher was playing for Tyrone he did the 'donkey work' ( ie handed him easy ball) for him and he was a very efficient and effective cog in that Tyrone set -up .... when Dooher retired Sean Cavanagh wasn't nearly as effective or as influential.

I personally think he was one of the most overrated players in the Tyrone setup during those years.
I always remember thinking he showed up well when a game was already won, getting a couple of scores maybe in the last 10 when they were already 8 up.
Rarely was he the player to pull them through in a difficult game.
Dooher, as you say, was that type of player.
He has nothing of interest to say in the punditry side of things. Stutters a lot and repeats lots of cliche's but no real insights.
He's certainly got more confident in the role than he was, but he brings nothing to it.

I'd much prefer to listen to people with their own opinions rather than this sanitised repetitive jargon. The result is that every game has the same commentary and analysis with nothing insightful or entertaining to offer. I used to always watch the RTE pre-match, half-time and post game analysis. I just cant bring myself to do it now.....a complete bore-fest which is chaired by the queen of bore in Cantwell.

Cavanagh is hard to like but that is nonsense.  He pulled Tyrone through many a difficult game.

Yeah it's absolute nonsense. He scored 5 from play in his adopted position of full forward in 08 all ireland final which is more than either Clifford or Walsh got from play on Sunday. It included a few very important scores in the second half. He got a crucial score towards the end of the 05 semi final v Armagh and dragged Tyrone over the line in 2017 ulster final against Donegal. That's just a few that spring to mind.

Nonsense I'd agree, people have short memories lol. The 05 All Ireland semi final could of went either way, but Cavanagh more than any player on the field stood up in the last 10 minutes, causing chaos and creating space. There was no 2008 All Ireland in Tyrone but for Cavanagh, his move to full forward and his stats there won it.

Post 08 as a neutral I'd say Tyrone were average enough but Cavanagh got them through the transitional period remaining competitive and around Division 1. Harte and Cavanagh on the field did a lot but the quality just wasn't in Tyrone to win another All Ireland in those years. The 2017 Ulster Final performance dragged Tyrone back to the top table. Great player!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on July 26, 2022, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 10:52:35 AM
Yeah Cavanagh not overly likeable but he was a fantastic footballer. Tyrone would less than 4 all irelands without him. He was one of the best players of his era.

Im a proud Armagh man but this is the truth. An excellent player
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on July 26, 2022, 12:02:31 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on July 26, 2022, 10:34:59 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 26, 2022, 10:30:43 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 26, 2022, 09:44:40 AM
Quote from: Real Talk on July 25, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Number 1 .... Sean Cavanagh loves Sean Cavanagh.  When Brian Dooher was playing for Tyrone he did the 'donkey work' ( ie handed him easy ball) for him and he was a very efficient and effective cog in that Tyrone set -up .... when Dooher retired Sean Cavanagh wasn't nearly as effective or as influential.

I personally think he was one of the most overrated players in the Tyrone setup during those years.
I always remember thinking he showed up well when a game was already won, getting a couple of scores maybe in the last 10 when they were already 8 up.
Rarely was he the player to pull them through in a difficult game.
Dooher, as you say, was that type of player.
He has nothing of interest to say in the punditry side of things. Stutters a lot and repeats lots of cliche's but no real insights.
He's certainly got more confident in the role than he was, but he brings nothing to it.

I'd much prefer to listen to people with their own opinions rather than this sanitised repetitive jargon. The result is that every game has the same commentary and analysis with nothing insightful or entertaining to offer. I used to always watch the RTE pre-match, half-time and post game analysis. I just cant bring myself to do it now.....a complete bore-fest which is chaired by the queen of bore in Cantwell.

Cavanagh is hard to like but that is nonsense.  He pulled Tyrone through many a difficult game.

Yeah it's absolute nonsense. He scored 5 from play in his adopted position of full forward in 08 all ireland final which is more than either Clifford or Walsh got from play on Sunday. It included a few very important scores in the second half. He got a crucial score towards the end of the 05 semi final v Armagh and dragged Tyrone over the line in 2017 ulster final against Donegal. That's just a few that spring to mind.

His first introduction was to score 1-2 against Armagh in 02. Just out of Minor and went on to be a key player in the counties first ever All Ireland playing in MF. Against McGrane and Whelan and Daragh O'se some of the greatest MFs ever. Cavanagh was easily one of Tyrone's best footballers ever. People might not like his commentary and that's fine but to dismiss his footballing ability diminishes your argument and makes you look like you share a brain with Gemma O'Doherty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 26, 2022, 12:05:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 26, 2022, 10:52:35 AM
Yeah Cavanagh not overly likeable but he was a fantastic footballer. Tyrone would less than 4 all irelands without him. He was one of the best players of his era.

Agreed, he's pathetic and completely unlikeable as a pundit but he was tyrone's talisman and saviour in a number of big games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tiempo on July 26, 2022, 12:18:36 PM
If Sean Cavanagh the player is being called into question then as a mere mortal you may forget about it.

I feel a bit out of place on the board now, didn't realise the team of the millennium were posting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 26, 2022, 12:56:53 PM
I don't think many people will argue he was one of Tyrones best ever players. He had a trademark shuffle and while everybody knew it was coming, not very many could stop it. They definitely wouldn't have won it in 2008 without him and probably 2005 as well.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Taylor on July 26, 2022, 01:10:06 PM
Nail him all you like for his 'punditry' or how you view him as a person.

But anyone questioning his ball playing ability is talking through their arse
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 26, 2022, 01:14:16 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
This board is too easy sometimes.  Lol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 26, 2022, 01:19:09 PM
"Brick with a great fetch......turns, shoots..... and its OVER THE BARRRRR"

😃
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
I don't remember a time when TSG had such a clear out of reliables.
Brolly , O'Rourke and Spillane were the GF counterparts of Giles, Dunphy and Brady.
Maybe TSG will have a different model now
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 26, 2022, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 01:49:19 PM
Maybe TSG will have a different model now

Yes, they'll have representation of all 5 genders and at least one African, Asian and South American person.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on July 26, 2022, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on July 26, 2022, 11:34:50 AM
It's time for RTE to have a Red Button option where people can watch some deeper tactical analysis.
The main feed can be the usual very general O'Rourke, Spillane, Brolly type punditry that doesn't give much insight - Cavan are a proud football county, Meath always keep battling till the end.

If you want analysis then don't expect the Sunday Game to provide it. The format isn't suited to it due to time constraints. There should be a Monday night programme during championship season that caters for this. Personally I'd rather the entertainment when I'm watching tv but if I want analysis breakdown then there are plenty of decent podcasts more suited to that type of long format.

The Sunday Game have neither. They need to think outside the box and employ a few bigger personalities but I expect they will continue with their policy of quotas, tokenism and nepotism. Whatever you think of Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke to last as long as they did at the punditry was a fair achievement. Michael Lyster too who has never been replaced.     
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Owenmoresider on July 26, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: Rudi on July 26, 2022, 10:15:41 AM
Eamon Fitz is the only pudit worth talking about on RTE. Some of the pundits / presenters that did the Tailteann are worth a second look. Des Cahill, Ger Canning, Dessie Dolan, Gouch, Colm O Rourke, Gulpin Whelan, Cora & Kevin Mc should feck the hell off. As for that utter gobshite Sean Cavanagh.

At least Martin Carney, Joe Bollix, Davy Brady & Pateen are gone. Darragh Maloney not to bad. Hopefully Maughan doesn't get ideas.

The world doesn't need another eggit pundit from Mayo, thank goodness for Sky, Jimbo, Canavan & female presenter are class.

Oisin McConville not to bad either.
Well we'll be getting them anyway if this year is any measure, Higgins and Keegan are getting in on the act and were I to turn on the news some evening I'm half expecting that Colm Boyle will be presenting it, so omnipresent he has become. And lookit no doubt when O'Shea and O'Connor pack it in there'll have to be place found for them too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on July 26, 2022, 07:06:53 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 26, 2022, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: Rudi on July 26, 2022, 10:15:41 AM
Eamon Fitz is the only pudit worth talking about on RTE. Some of the pundits / presenters that did the Tailteann are worth a second look. Des Cahill, Ger Canning, Dessie Dolan, Gouch, Colm O Rourke, Gulpin Whelan, Cora & Kevin Mc should feck the hell off. As for that utter gobshite Sean Cavanagh.

At least Martin Carney, Joe Bollix, Davy Brady & Pateen are gone. Darragh Maloney not to bad. Hopefully Maughan doesn't get ideas.

The world doesn't need another eggit pundit from Mayo, thank goodness for Sky, Jimbo, Canavan & female presenter are class.

Oisin McConville not to bad either.
Well we'll be getting them anyway if this year is any measure, Higgins and Keegan are getting in on the act and were I to turn on the news some evening I'm half expecting that Colm Boyle will be presenting it, so omnipresent he has become. And lookit no doubt when O'Shea and O'Connor pack it in there'll have to be place found for them too.

Colm Boyle was actually very good on the few occasions he was on this year. Hopefully he will be used more next year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2022, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 26, 2022, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on July 26, 2022, 11:34:50 AM
It's time for RTE to have a Red Button option where people can watch some deeper tactical analysis.
The main feed can be the usual very general O'Rourke, Spillane, Brolly type punditry that doesn't give much insight - Cavan are a proud football county, Meath always keep battling till the end.

If you want analysis then don't expect the Sunday Game to provide it. The format isn't suited to it due to time constraints. There should be a Monday night programme during championship season that caters for this. Personally I'd rather the entertainment when I'm watching tv but if I want analysis breakdown then there are plenty of decent podcasts more suited to that type of long format.

The Sunday Game have neither. They need to think outside the box and employ a few bigger personalities but I expect they will continue with their policy of quotas, tokenism and nepotism. Whatever you think of Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke to last as long as they did at the punditry was a fair achievement. Michael Lyster too who has never been replaced.   
OTB on Monday has good analysis. TSG is mostly entertainment
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 27, 2022, 11:35:20 AM
The only good thing about the Sunday Game is the theme tune.

Personalities are non-existent and actually seem to be frowned upon.
Analysis is just a series of soundbites and cliche's.
Zero entertainment value.
It's so PC it's become a non-entity.

So if there is no entertainment, no decent analysis....then what is the Sunday Game?

They need to completely clear out the personnel. Now that the mainstays are gone its a great opportunity for RTE to get this right.
They need to decide if they are going for entertainment OR in depth analysis because it seems they are unable to get it right if trying to do both. Then based on this decision, recruit entertainers OR analysts. Putting both together on the same panel doesnt seem to work and probably is what has caused friction previously.

Possibly have a panel of anchors and rotate between them as Cantwell just doesn't work imo.

Recently retired players who have played the modern game and who have managed at some level to provide the analysis. Last thing you want is guys on there harking back to the good old days.
But they also need to have some decent presentation skills. What about ex-referee's as analysts? Pat Mceneany for example?

I dont know what the magic formula is but the current formula just does not work.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on July 27, 2022, 11:41:15 AM
The reality is that you couldn't please some of you c***ts. He's no good. He's shite. No analysis, his analysis is shit, he was a shit footballer, she's a girl. Take a f**king day off ffs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: keep her low this half on July 27, 2022, 11:53:01 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 27, 2022, 11:35:20 AM
The only good thing about the Sunday Game is the theme tune.

Personalities are non-existent and actually seem to be frowned upon.
Analysis is just a series of soundbites and cliche's.
Zero entertainment value.
It's so PC it's become a non-entity.

So if there is no entertainment, no decent analysis....then what is the Sunday Game?

They need to completely clear out the personnel. Now that the mainstays are gone its a great opportunity for RTE to get this right.
They need to decide if they are going for entertainment OR in depth analysis because it seems they are unable to get it right if trying to do both. Then based on this decision, recruit entertainers OR analysts. Putting both together on the same panel doesnt seem to work and probably is what has caused friction previously.

Possibly have a panel of anchors and rotate between them as Cantwell just doesn't work imo.

Recently retired players who have played the modern game and who have managed at some level to provide the analysis. Last thing you want is guys on there harking back to the good old days.
But they also need to have some decent presentation skills. What about ex-referee's as analysts? Pat Mceneany for example?

I dont know what the magic formula is but the current formula just does not work.

i am not sure if it is possible given rules about broadcasting but if we could have more actual game time shown and less pundits rambling it would be a better show. In fairness I enjoy some of the hurling analysis, I think Brendan Cummins is very good. As for the football zzzz.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 27, 2022, 01:25:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!
It's possible to do it in NZ..

https://youtu.be/3WQHVD3n9AU
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 27, 2022, 01:33:31 PM
Breaking ball used to be a good effort at a magazine style show on rte.

From an ulster point of view used to enjoy end to end in the mid 2000's on utv. Just basically a chat show from memory but provided good build up to the games involving ulster teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on July 27, 2022, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!

Brilliant idea.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!

Parkinson said he pitched a mid week show to them and they didn't even acknowledge him. RTE have a lot of programming to fit in but you would think an hour long show would be cheap enough to make and you'd have a decent audience. Look at the amount of GAA podcasts going and doing well - you'd think they could get a couple of hours a week out even with decent audience numbers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 27, 2022, 02:29:44 PM
They had talked about a GAA channel on SKY in years gone by but now they've turned their attention to a youtube channel with regular content. The success of podcasts like Parkinson has attracted their attention.

A couple of shows a week previewing and reviewing games would attract huge numbers.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on July 27, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
RTÉ already have their own excellent GAA podcast. Rory O'Neill and Mikey Stafford are resident.  O'Neil is excellent but already works for TSG. Eamon Fitzmaurice and Michael Foley were on recently.  Very informative. 

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ck on July 27, 2022, 09:44:47 PM
The Sunday Game is way past its sell by date. An old tired format that is too light touch and is dominated by the big counties. Its crying out for another show, perhaps mid week, to look at players behind the scenes in the smaller counties and divisions 3 and 4.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on July 27, 2022, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 27, 2022, 06:33:46 PM
RTÉ already have their own excellent GAA podcast. Rory O'Neill and Mikey Stafford are resident.  O'Neil is excellent but already works for TSG. Eamon Fitzmaurice and Michael Foley were on recently.  Very informative.

Rory O'Neill interupts everybody too much.

Apart from that it's good. Mixture of football and hurling.

I wonder will they continue when the club championships kick in?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 27, 2022, 11:42:38 PM
Watch the game and make your own assessment, job done
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 07:57:24 AM

This has been covered quite extensively. The GAA's own rights restrictions preclude RTE from having any type of midweek show - they aren't allowed to use the footage!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim Bob on July 28, 2022, 08:04:25 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 07:57:24 AM

This has been covered quite extensively. The GAA's own rights restrictions preclude RTE from having any type of midweek show - they aren't allowed to use the footage!

You'd wonder why that is the case ?.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on July 28, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!

Parkinson said he pitched a mid week show to them and they didn't even acknowledge him. RTE have a lot of programming to fit in but you would think an hour long show would be cheap enough to make and you'd have a decent audience. Look at the amount of GAA podcasts going and doing well - you'd think they could get a couple of hours a week out even with decent audience numbers.
Pod cast are the ideal form for Gaa . they can be as local as you like. I listen to stuff on ah ref in mayo i would have zero intrest in listeniing to in other counties . club manager merry go round and Junior noth mayo winter league results ETC.

A national station just cannot bring that kind of news or the show would last about 6 hours
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2022, 03:59:34 PM
All lady pundits at Croke... think they missed a trick there
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 25, 2022, 08:13:19 AM
Wonder who will be drafted in.
O Sé, O'Rourke, Spillane, McStay all gone.
I'd like the way Sky do it and draft in the odd mix of a lad from the clubs playing who is not a regular.

The Tailteann Cup crew were enjoyable so some younger lads would be good.

Get rid of Cavanagh and Dessie too!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on August 25, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 25, 2022, 08:13:19 AM
Wonder who will be drafted in.
O Sé, O'Rourke, Spillane, McStay all gone.
I'd like the way Sky do it and draft in the odd mix of a lad from the clubs playing who is not a regular.

The Tailteann Cup crew were enjoyable so some younger lads would be good.

Get rid of Cavanagh and Dessie too!

id expect to see horan step back in somewhere, oisin too maybe, declan bonner could be good but it could be hard to understand  when he speaks loudly enough to be heard
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on August 25, 2022, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 25, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 25, 2022, 08:13:19 AM
Wonder who will be drafted in.
O Sé, O'Rourke, Spillane, McStay all gone.
I'd like the way Sky do it and draft in the odd mix of a lad from the clubs playing who is not a regular.

The Tailteann Cup crew were enjoyable so some younger lads would be good.

Get rid of Cavanagh and Dessie too!

id expect to see horan step back in somewhere, oisin too maybe, declan bonner could be good but it could be hard to understand  when he speaks loudly enough to be heard
Horan will likely return to Sky sports.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2022, 06:23:50 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 25, 2022, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 25, 2022, 04:18:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 25, 2022, 08:13:19 AM
Wonder who will be drafted in.
O Sé, O'Rourke, Spillane, McStay all gone.
I'd like the way Sky do it and draft in the odd mix of a lad from the clubs playing who is not a regular.

The Tailteann Cup crew were enjoyable so some younger lads would be good.

Get rid of Cavanagh and Dessie too!

id expect to see horan step back in somewhere, oisin too maybe, declan bonner could be good but it could be hard to understand  when he speaks loudly enough to be heard
Horan will likely return to Sky sports.
Lo9kit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2022, 10:53:31 AM
Well I hope somebody replaces them. If not it'll be nothing but Munster hurling every Sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on August 26, 2022, 03:01:20 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!

Parkinson said he pitched a mid week show to them and they didn't even acknowledge him. RTE have a lot of programming to fit in but you would think an hour long show would be cheap enough to make and you'd have a decent audience. Look at the amount of GAA podcasts going and doing well - you'd think they could get a couple of hours a week out even with decent audience numbers.
Pod cast are the ideal form for Gaa . they can be as local as you like. I listen to stuff on ah ref in mayo i would have zero intrest in listeniing to in other counties . club manager merry go round and Junior noth mayo winter league results ETC.

A national station just cannot bring that kind of news or the show would last about 6 hours
Rte could/should have a multi sports channel, more especially in this day and age when broadcast production innovations have accelerated since times of covid and production costs have dropped hugely.
More stuff is produced remotely with just one or two (ideally well placed) cameras on site.
Apart from the top games, most streamed sports events do not need a studio or punditry. In any event you can video link to someone at their home. The possibilities are  infinite.
For filers you could have Parkinson et al on loop for hours on end.   A midnight special with Oisín for insomniacs.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on August 26, 2022, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 26, 2022, 03:01:20 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!

Parkinson said he pitched a mid week show to them and they didn't even acknowledge him. RTE have a lot of programming to fit in but you would think an hour long show would be cheap enough to make and you'd have a decent audience. Look at the amount of GAA podcasts going and doing well - you'd think they could get a couple of hours a week out even with decent audience numbers.
Pod cast are the ideal form for Gaa . they can be as local as you like. I listen to stuff on ah ref in mayo i would have zero intrest in listeniing to in other counties . club manager merry go round and Junior noth mayo winter league results ETC.

A national station just cannot bring that kind of news or the show would last about 6 hours
Rte could/should have a multi sports channel, more especially in this day and age when broadcast production innovations have accelerated since times of covid and production costs have dropped hugely.
More stuff is produced remotely with just one or two (ideally well placed) cameras on site.
Apart from the top games, most streamed sports events do not need a studio or punditry. In any event you can video link to someone at their home. The possibilities are  infinite.
For filers you could have Parkinson et al on loop for hours on end.   A midnight special with Oisín for insomniacs.

Jesus nobody's that desperate!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2022, 02:06:12 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 26, 2022, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 26, 2022, 03:01:20 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 27, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Crazy in this day and age. . . you have easy access to all broadcast sports and can see the successful broadcasting formats.

You audition lads for personality and give them some media training so they can handle themselves properly on screen without losing their opinions and backbone.

The fact there isn't a recap style show like MNF with proper analysis and a legend of the game as a guest to add some extra insight is ridiculous as far as I can see.

Even some kind of mish mash magazine show presented by the 2 Johnnies (or someone like that) lacing a bit of craic through the GAA scene would be deadly.

They have so much they can do and they just won't it's so frustrating!

Parkinson said he pitched a mid week show to them and they didn't even acknowledge him. RTE have a lot of programming to fit in but you would think an hour long show would be cheap enough to make and you'd have a decent audience. Look at the amount of GAA podcasts going and doing well - you'd think they could get a couple of hours a week out even with decent audience numbers.
Pod cast are the ideal form for Gaa . they can be as local as you like. I listen to stuff on ah ref in mayo i would have zero intrest in listeniing to in other counties . club manager merry go round and Junior noth mayo winter league results ETC.

A national station just cannot bring that kind of news or the show would last about 6 hours
Rte could/should have a multi sports channel, more especially in this day and age when broadcast production innovations have accelerated since times of covid and production costs have dropped hugely.
More stuff is produced remotely with just one or two (ideally well placed) cameras on site.
Apart from the top games, most streamed sports events do not need a studio or punditry. In any event you can video link to someone at their home. The possibilities are  infinite.
For filers you could have Parkinson et al on loop for hours on end.   A midnight special with Oisín for insomniacs.

Jesus nobody's that desperate!!
Who are you calling nobodies?? there are GAAboard members here who pay real money to subscribe to Parkinson's podcasts. Show some respect!!  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on October 17, 2022, 11:36:48 AM
A bit of good news...

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/des-cahill-quits-as-host-of-the-sunday-game-42072018.html
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 17, 2022, 12:14:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 17, 2022, 11:36:48 AM
A bit of good news...

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/des-cahill-quits-as-host-of-the-sunday-game-42072018.html
Another victim of the squeezed schedule
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on October 17, 2022, 12:44:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 17, 2022, 11:36:48 AM
A bit of good news...

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/des-cahill-quits-as-host-of-the-sunday-game-42072018.html

I'm not sure this is good news.

It's likely a ploy to give even more airtime to the evil Joanne Cantwell.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sensethetone on October 17, 2022, 01:48:33 PM
Sean Cavanagh's job to lose.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 17, 2022, 01:53:27 PM
Up here in the UK we'd be delighted if that happens 😃😉
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on October 17, 2022, 01:59:39 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 17, 2022, 12:44:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 17, 2022, 11:36:48 AM
A bit of good news...

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/des-cahill-quits-as-host-of-the-sunday-game-42072018.html

I'm not sure this is good news.

It's likely a ploy to give even more airtime to the evil Joanne Cantwell.

Get the candle lit lads....anyone but she who should not be named.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on October 17, 2022, 02:00:20 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 17, 2022, 01:48:33 PM
Sean Cavanagh's job to lose.

Get 2 candles lit lads.....anyone but she who can't be named and saint "erm" Sean.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on October 17, 2022, 02:03:02 PM
The Sunday game has gone to the dogs.
It's barely watchable.

As decent a man as Des is, the day of cliche is over I hope. He's outdated for what people want to see.
As is the format of RTE coverage in general now.

Maybe they'll revamp the whole thinking behind their coverage with a changing of the guard.
Do a complete clear out of presenters and pundits alike and start anew with something fresh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on October 17, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
I like Joanne.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 17, 2022, 03:16:53 PM
She very poor to be honest, Cavanagh incredibly bias, not well suited to been a commentar. With Spillane and O'Rourke gone it could get scary this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 17, 2022, 04:28:03 PM
TSG might be better if they ran half of the May and June games midweek.
The games schedule under the new regime is totally constipated. The GAA decided to give all teams a clatter of matches at their level so there are more matches in less time.
It's impossible to give justice to all of the matches.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: full moon on October 17, 2022, 04:33:07 PM
Should be separate shows for hurling and football or either a Saturday and Sunday show during inter county time. Especially now you have Ladies football and camoige on every show too.

You essentially have 4 different sports there under the one umbrella.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on October 17, 2022, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 17, 2022, 03:16:53 PM
She very poor to be honest, Cavanagh incredibly bias, not well suited to been a commentar. With Spillane and O'Rourke gone it could get scary this year.

What makes you say so Weasel? Could you be more specific?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on October 17, 2022, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on October 17, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
I like Joanne.

I don't really like her voice but she's a good presenter other than that. She challenges the pundits rather than just agreeing with everything they say. She's also well prepared, nobody can deny that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 17, 2022, 06:02:35 PM
In terms of presenters I'd throw Damian Lawlor in the mix. I think he did a nice job on the Tailteann and he is not overbearing and knows his stuff. Or just feckin poach Grainne McElwain from Sky!

There are a few pundit gaps too and I'd like to see some new comms people.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on October 17, 2022, 11:22:15 PM
Irish Examiner contenders to take over from Des Cahill


Joanne Cantwell will be remaining on the live Sunday Game beat so who's going to get the night shift?


JACQUI HURLEY:
The favourite in some quarters. Extremely accomplished and comfortable in the hot seat, the Cork woman is piloting a lot of RTÉ's rugby coverage these days – and with everything back under the Montrose umbrella bar the November internationals, there's plenty of egg to keep Jacqui chatting. Will RTÉ sports chief Declan McBennett want to rob Peter to pay Paul, so to speak? Does he create a problem in rugby by moving Jacqui to GAA? Might be worth it, though.

EVANNE NI CHUILINN: Another of RTÉ's well-regarded front-of-house options, the Kilkenny woman has shown her diversity from studio hot-seat to the Olympic Games beat and is proper respected in the GAA sphere. Well dialled in on both codes and has a less confrontational, easy-going style than some colleagues. The key to this gig? Having the knowledge when the occasion demands, but firstly to facilitate good debate and conversation. Ni Chuilinn scores on these important factors.


TOMMY MARTIN: Well Claire Byrne came from Newstalk to be a runaway hit at RTÉ – why not Virgin Media presenter and Examiner columnist Tommy Martin? Though he presents VM's football coverage, Donegal's Martin has sound GAA credentials and could make the transition without missing a beat. Delivers a nice balance of chat and interrogation and is like a good referee - doesn't need to be integral to every discussion. Whether he'd want to take on the machine-gun rat-a-rat of TSG is another point. If RTÉ is willing to cross the media divide, Off The Ball's Joe Molloy is another accomplished anchor who now has plenty of TV studio experience under his belt anchoring rugby for Virgin.

DARA Ó CINNEIDE: Often linked with a return to The Sunday Game, where he was once a much-respected pundit, his return last summer to the Seo Sport presenter role means he is worthy of serious consideration by RTÉ. Would he go back? The former Irish Examiner columnist heads up Radio na Gaeltachta's southern operation these days; whether that makes this role more complicated is something only he can answer. However, his deep knowledge and reading of the GAA would make the Gaeltacht man a fit - though he may wish to keep TSG in the rearview mirror at this stage.

ANTHONY DALY: Another from the Irish Examiner stable, is Dalo the ideal pundit who is better served staying on that side of the fence? Pat Spillane found that proffering opinion is a lot easier than dissecting and repurposing everyone else's – he rediscovered his mojo when returning to the pundit's couch. One wonders too whether Dalo's chatty, pub counter style would survive the constant whispering in his ear from the production room to wrap it up?

DAMIAN LAWLOR:  A potential dark horse. Tipp man Lawlor has made significant strides via Sky Sports and latterly in Donnybrook, first as a sideline reporter before moving into presentation over the past eighteen months. His easy going demeanour has opened a few dressing room doors and as a former news reporter, he likes nothing better than breaking the odd GAA exclusive himself. Has done the hard sideline yards, often in the winter chill of the club championship campaigns, where the rain comes sideways and umbrellas are part of the survival kit. Once he finds his feet, could certainly be relied upon to cut to the heart of it in the studio back and forth on a Sunday night.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on October 18, 2022, 01:20:05 AM
There's too many games these days . The same Pundits are under pressure to  deliver good regular  analysi. But it ends up those. same few pundits  churning out the same  old shite . No matter how good the    pundit and the analysis,  after a while it all  becomes stale

We didn't have this problem back in the  day with 5 or 6 live games a year

Too   much of the one thing, no matter how good it is , eventually leaves you  bored and  unfulfilled 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on October 18, 2022, 06:34:19 AM
Woolly would stir the pot   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 18, 2022, 07:23:17 AM
TSG is never enough for some people. Armagh and Derry could probably have supported 24 hour rolling TSG from the midpoint of the qualifiers until the end of the penalties / 15 minutes into the second half of the AISF and again in the run up to the all stars.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on October 18, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
RTE could learn a lot from the modern day podcasts, and try to totally revamp the show with something more interactive and with free flowing conversation rather than stale, rehearsed commentary on games.  Plus Des has a point, too many games to fit into one show.  If you want to do the games justice, there probably needs to be a second midweek show of some sort.  Would love to see a Wed or Thurs night preview show of the upcoming weekend games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on October 18, 2022, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on October 18, 2022, 06:34:19 AM
Woolly would stir the pot

Wooly, Ewan MacKenna, Dunphy.

I'd watch that show.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on October 18, 2022, 11:07:12 AM
He's stirring plenty today I notice on  that Meath game. I dunno much about those two Meath teams but that team in white looked horrendous. All kicked off after one of their played seemed to feign a strike on the face.

Also I wouldn't in a million years watch a show with those 3 boys. McKenna is toxic. The other two aren't that bad but McKenna shouldn't be let near anything professional.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on October 18, 2022, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on October 18, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
RTE could learn a lot from the modern day podcasts, and try to totally revamp the show with something more interactive and with free flowing conversation rather than stale, rehearsed commentary on games.  Plus Des has a point, too many games to fit into one show.  If you want to do the games justice, there probably needs to be a second midweek show of some sort.  Would love to see a Wed or Thurs night preview show of the upcoming weekend games.

They need at least one midweek show, perhaps one to show longer segments of games and one preview magazine type programme. Half the stuff on RTÉ is repeats, this is novel content that they own the rights to, why do they not use it?

Edit: Des on Newstalk with Pat Kenny now. He said that they did not have the rights to show games during the week, only Sunday night. The GAA need to look at this. They should encourage more coverage, for instance when UTV had a programme they couldn't proceed for lack of rights, the GAA should have encouraged them not stopped them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on October 18, 2022, 11:28:34 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 18, 2022, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on October 18, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
RTE could learn a lot from the modern day podcasts, and try to totally revamp the show with something more interactive and with free flowing conversation rather than stale, rehearsed commentary on games.  Plus Des has a point, too many games to fit into one show.  If you want to do the games justice, there probably needs to be a second midweek show of some sort.  Would love to see a Wed or Thurs night preview show of the upcoming weekend games.

They need at least one midweek show, perhaps one to show longer segments of games and one preview magazine type programme. Half the stuff on RTÉ is repeats, this is novel content that they own the rights to, why do they not use it?
Yeah I think rte are seriously missing a trick with this. Surely you'd get more viewers for a well run preview and highlights show every week than the usual rerun shite you have now.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trailer on October 18, 2022, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 18, 2022, 11:07:12 AM
He's stirring plenty today I notice on  that Meath game. I dunno much about those two Meath teams but that team in white looked horrendous. All kicked off after one of their played seemed to feign a strike on the face.

Also I wouldn't in a million years watch a show with those 3 boys. McKenna is toxic. The other two aren't that bad but McKenna shouldn't be let near anything professional.

It would only last a week so you'd probably stick it out for that length of time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rosnarun on October 18, 2022, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 18, 2022, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on October 18, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
RTE could learn a lot from the modern day podcasts, and try to totally revamp the show with something more interactive and with free flowing conversation rather than stale, rehearsed commentary on games.  Plus Des has a point, too many games to fit into one show.  If you want to do the games justice, there probably needs to be a second midweek show of some sort.  Would love to see a Wed or Thurs night preview show of the upcoming weekend games.

They need at least one midweek show, perhaps one to show longer segments of games and one preview magazine type programme. Half the stuff on RTÉ is repeats, this is novel content that they own the rights to, why do they not use it?

Edit: Des on Newstalk with Pat Kenny now. He said that they did not have the rights to show games during the week, only Sunday night. The GAA need to look at this. They should encourage more coverage, for instance when UTV had a programme they couldn't proceed for lack of rights, the GAA should have encouraged them not stopped them.

did he say why or who has the rights
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 18, 2022, 05:56:37 PM
Joe Molloy is excellent on OTB
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 18, 2022, 06:56:20 PM
Des son can take over, looks just like him.

https://twitter.com/sportsdes/status/1582112823835926528
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on October 18, 2022, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 18, 2022, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on October 18, 2022, 09:09:38 AM
RTE could learn a lot from the modern day podcasts, and try to totally revamp the show with something more interactive and with free flowing conversation rather than stale, rehearsed commentary on games.  Plus Des has a point, too many games to fit into one show.  If you want to do the games justice, there probably needs to be a second midweek show of some sort.  Would love to see a Wed or Thurs night preview show of the upcoming weekend games.

They need at least one midweek show, perhaps one to show longer segments of games and one preview magazine type programme. Half the stuff on RTÉ is repeats, this is novel content that they own the rights to, why do they not use it?

Edit: Des on Newstalk with Pat Kenny now. He said that they did not have the rights to show games during the week, only Sunday night. The GAA need to look at this. They should encourage more coverage, for instance when UTV had a programme they couldn't proceed for lack of rights, the GAA should have encouraged them not stopped them.

did he say why or who has the rights

You'd presume TG4 - GAA Beo
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 19, 2022, 08:23:34 AM
Jackie Hurley really wanted the TSG job that Cantwell got. Now she does the rubby.
I think it would be better to get someone from outside RTE.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 19, 2022, 08:35:07 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.
It was great when Spillane was running the show aound 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euR_Idiso-Y&t=81s
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: sensethetone on October 19, 2022, 09:28:52 AM
Quote from: seafoid on October 19, 2022, 08:35:07 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.
It was great when Spillane was running the show aound 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euR_Idiso-Y&t=81s

When he qualified himself to discuss the Hurling was my highlight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on October 19, 2022, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.

I have no problem with the old fogies going but the problem is they are replacing them with boring robots. Its often not the pundits own fault though as they are constrained by what they are allowed to say without veering off script.   
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on October 19, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2022, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.

I have no problem with the old fogies going but the problem is they are replacing them with boring robots. Its often not the pundits own fault though as they are constrained by what they are allowed to say without veering off script.
Oisin McConville, Aaron Kernan and Peter Canavan- 3 of the best to ever do it in their position and probably the 3 most knowledgable and straight talking pundits I've seen. Throw in Mugsy as well for a bit of craic.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on October 19, 2022, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 19, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2022, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.

I have no problem with the old fogies going but the problem is they are replacing them with boring robots. Its often not the pundits own fault though as they are constrained by what they are allowed to say without veering off script.
Oisin McConville, Aaron Kernan and Peter Canavan- 3 of the best to ever do it in their position and probably the 3 most knowledgable and straight talking pundits I've seen. Throw in Mugsy as well for a bit of craic.

Mugsy might be good craic on a night out but he's useless as a pundit. We need intelligent, articulate pundits and those are minimum requirements. They needn't necessarily come from the major counties. I find that the pundits who've had experience in management are much more clued in and easier to listen to.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on October 19, 2022, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: lenny on October 19, 2022, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 19, 2022, 11:58:53 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2022, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on October 18, 2022, 11:24:49 PM
It's great to see all these old fogies gone. The Sunday Game has been stale for two decades at least.

I have no problem with the old fogies going but the problem is they are replacing them with boring robots. Its often not the pundits own fault though as they are constrained by what they are allowed to say without veering off script.
Oisin McConville, Aaron Kernan and Peter Canavan- 3 of the best to ever do it in their position and probably the 3 most knowledgable and straight talking pundits I've seen. Throw in Mugsy as well for a bit of craic.

Mugsy might be good craic on a night out but he's useless as a pundit. We need intelligent, articulate pundits and those are minimum requirements. They needn't necessarily come from the major counties. I find that the pundits who've had experience in management are much more clued in and easier to listen to.
Fair enough about Mugsy but you do need that entertainment value too imo. The other 3 provide excellent analysis any time I've heard them speak about games. You need someone who can tell you something you don't already know or point out little things that aren't obvious to Joe Bloggs that might be happening in games, rather than repeating the same old cliched lines over and over
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: oakleaflad on October 20, 2022, 09:49:49 AM
Oisin managing Wicklow this coming season so could rule him out of the punditry side of things too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on October 20, 2022, 12:33:46 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on October 20, 2022, 09:49:49 AM
Oisin managing Wicklow this coming season so could rule him out of the punditry side of things too.

He was on the Examiner podcast talking about the Wicklow job a few weeks back and he's definitely cutting back on the punditry side of things based on what he said there.
General vibe was that he wouldn't be on that podcast on a weekly basis anymore but might drop in once or twice if his schedule allows it.
Overall I'd expect to see/hear far less of him on GAA media while he is involved with Wicklow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 20, 2022, 07:19:23 PM
Should be Dara O'Cinneide presenting ( In fact he should been ahead of Joanne for the live games) Job just came up at the time where sport TV representation was been spread out.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Brendan on October 21, 2022, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time

That can be easily solved in 2022, all he will have to do is say he identifies as a woman
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 21, 2022, 04:00:48 PM
First 9 minutes are on TSG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4weUJYvONGQ
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on October 22, 2022, 08:02:37 AM
Des is no host of Saturday and Sunday Sport on the radio so it's Jacqui Hurley.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on October 22, 2022, 09:06:39 AM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on October 22, 2022, 08:02:37 AM
Des is no host of Saturday and Sunday Sport on the radio so it's Jacqui Hurley.
Maybe a dual ticket of Jacqui Hurley and Jackie Football would work
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim Bob on October 22, 2022, 09:48:36 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on October 20, 2022, 12:33:46 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on October 20, 2022, 09:49:49 AM
Oisin managing Wicklow this coming season so could rule him out of the punditry side of things too.

He was on the Examiner podcast talking about the Wicklow job a few weeks back and he's definitely cutting back on the punditry side of things based on what he said there.
General vibe was that he wouldn't be on that podcast on a weekly basis anymore but might drop in once or twice if his schedule allows it.
Overall I'd expect to see/hear far less of him on GAA media while he is involved with Wicklow.

Has Oisin a day job ?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on October 23, 2022, 11:05:18 AM
St Pats of Wicklow were very poor last night in the Leinster Club against Palentine.  If they are the best team in Wicklow then that would be a concern for McConville.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on November 27, 2022, 07:59:28 PM
O'Rourke proves he had not a scooby, what he was talking about the last 20 years.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fikv0edXkAIji7F?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 12:55:49 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0122/1350120-hurley-to-front-the-sunday-game-as-rte-name-new-pundits/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2023, 03:22:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnFKYpgXwAURZ2z?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on January 22, 2023, 03:32:03 PM
Does this mean the end of Cantwell and Cavanagh? Please say yes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: pbat on January 22, 2023, 03:34:55 PM
Thats only the Sunday evening show I think, Cantwell will still be doing the live broadcasts.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on January 22, 2023, 04:07:45 PM
Canavan is a good addition. Enjoyed his analysis on Sky. Nice to see David Tubridy in there too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2023, 04:10:11 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2023, 03:32:03 PM
Does this mean the end of Cantwell and Cavanagh? Please say yes.

Cavanagh must be gone? Please... suspect cantwell could still be there yet.

Canavan a very good pundit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: pbat on January 22, 2023, 04:11:49 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2023/0122/1350120-hurley-to-front-the-sunday-game-as-rte-name-new-pundits/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on January 22, 2023, 04:16:37 PM
It was always going to be a female
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 22, 2023, 04:17:42 PM
It's a woman workd presenting mostly men's Gaelic and hurling.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 04:23:34 PM
Jacqui Hurley was very bronach when Cantwell got the TSG job. Funny old world.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/living/2022/0705/1308339-jacqui-hurley-im-really-living-the-dream/

Jacqui admits that not getting the hosting job on The Sunday Game (it went to Joanne Cantwell in 2019 after the retirement of long-time host Michael Lyster) was probably her biggest disappointment and it resulted in her almost leaving RTÉ, something she opened up about in a recent podcast interview with Doireann Garrihy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2GqlOYfgfw
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Role models for girls. Why not?
Female analysts and presenters are no different to their male counterparts. A lot of sports analysis is waffle anyway.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on January 22, 2023, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?

Those days are gone
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Role models for girls. Why not?
Female analysts and presenters are no different to their male counterparts. A lot of sports analysis is waffle anyway.

I'd be more concerned that it's another presenter from Dublin. 

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 22, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Role models for girls. Why not?
Female analysts and presenters are no different to their male counterparts. A lot of sports analysis is waffle anyway.

I'd be more concerned that it's another presenter from Dublin.

Jacqui Hurley? She's from Cork.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 22, 2023, 06:23:06 PM
Gender should be irrelevant for the presenting gig, I couldn't care less whether it's a man or woman if they know their stuff and are fit for it, there's plenty of lads who would give out yards about any woman getting it, regardless if they were top notch and the best person for it.

That said personally I've found Jacqui Hurley isn't good on GAA, been listening to Sunday Sport for many years going to and from matches, she makes a ton of poor errors, not knowing the setup of draws, the consequences of league results for the overall picture etc. and just isn't up to speed on it generally, go past the top players that the dog in the street knows and there's little knowledge. I wonder whether she's much of a GAA fan or has interest in it, she could well have but does a good job of hiding it if she does.

Unusual for someone to have the rugby gig (no idea how she is on that, don't watch it) and one of the prime SG presenter jobs, she has good pull in RTE anyway. Best of luck to her, Des Cahill wasn't great so maybe it's all much of a muchness but I wouldn't be a fan of this presenting appointment.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on January 22, 2023, 06:26:10 PM
But they don't know there stuff, JC doesn't know her stuff, and it was a horror show in the world cup soccer wise.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 22, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Role models for girls. Why not?
Female analysts and presenters are no different to their male counterparts. A lot of sports analysis is waffle anyway.

I'd be more concerned that it's another presenter from Dublin.

Jacqui Hurley? She's from Cork.

Apologies, always thought she was a Dub! I never know much about presenters!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2023, 06:44:34 PM
Lyster knew his stuff. Cahill more interested in himself . Be good to see a change at least.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 22, 2023, 06:47:16 PM
Think Joanne Cantrell DOES know her stuff to a large extent myself, on football anyway. She doesn't take any crap either. I'd agree that Jacqui Hurley doesn't seem very knowledgeable a lot. But it's RTE..one of those places you could easily see someone "failing upwards".. :-[
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 22, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Role models for girls. Why not?
Female analysts and presenters are no different to their male counterparts. A lot of sports analysis is waffle anyway.

I'd be more concerned that it's another presenter from Dublin.

Jacqui Hurley? She's from Cork.
If she was from anywhere else her name would be Jacqui Hurl
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2023, 06:54:14 PM
Jacqui Hurley will be major improvement on Des Cahill.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 22, 2023, 06:57:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2023, 06:54:14 PM
Jacqui Hurley will be major improvement on Des Cahill.

A cardboard cut out with sound coming from a Nokia 3210 would be an improvement there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on January 22, 2023, 07:16:47 PM
The presenting gig can be any sex, but I do prefer analysts who played the game who can actually discuss first hand experiences on the field with some of the lads playing still.
Keegan and Joe fit the bill there.
Not gone on Paul Flynn.

Another major issue is co comms so Cora and Dessie Dolan need to be kept off that!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on January 22, 2023, 08:54:35 PM
Mickey won't be too happy with his 2 Errigal clubmen working for RTE. In fairness both are very good pundits.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2023, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 22, 2023, 06:17:08 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on January 22, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on January 22, 2023, 05:20:55 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 20, 2022, 09:24:48 PM
It will be a female so mentioning anyone that is a man is a waste of time


Why does it HAVE to be a female, why not appoint people on the basis of their expertise and ability?
Role models for girls. Why not?
Female analysts and presenters are no different to their male counterparts. A lot of sports analysis is waffle anyway.

I'd be more concerned that it's another presenter from Dublin.

Jacqui Hurley? She's from Cork.

Apologies, always thought she was a Dub! I never know much about presenters!

Not sure how you thought that,her accent doesn't sound Dublin at all.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2023, 10:42:03 AM
It's suboptimal for Joanne Cantwell. They still haven't adequately replaced Michael Lyster.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Bord na Mona man on January 23, 2023, 01:52:42 PM
The presenter's knowledge doesn't have to be tip top. Their job is to draw quality content from the analysts. By knowing what to ask, what to persist with, and when to move on when a thread has run dry.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 29, 2023, 09:40:53 PM
Who's the blade in the leather trousers?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on January 29, 2023, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on January 29, 2023, 09:40:53 PM
Who's the blade in the leather trousers?

Are you trying to ask who the presenter is?
It's Evanne Ní Chuilinn.

Paul Flynn was asked about players getting no downtime and his answer was on a different topic altogether! Looks like he had his answers prepared, but didn't get the question he was expecting!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on January 29, 2023, 09:48:05 PM
Is Sean Cavanagh getting paid by the word? And what he is saying is incoherent nonsense.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on January 29, 2023, 09:50:01 PM
Unfortunately yes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on January 29, 2023, 09:52:47 PM
There was one very contientious umpire in castleblaney last night, running up and down the end line following the play!
Fair play I suppose, most seem too lazy and incompetent
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on January 29, 2023, 10:13:25 PM
Not much "analysis" of the games really.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2023, 10:19:27 PM
Nice to have Evanne Ní Chuilinn instead of Joanne Cantwell in the hotseat tonight too.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2023, 12:55:37 AM
Why can't they do like TG4 on Mondays...just have action and no waffle?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on January 30, 2023, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.

Paul Flynn very good though but cavanagh isn't mature enough to handle adult analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2023, 07:26:15 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.
He was good talking about  the new championship model.
The league and championship have been shoehorned into a smaller time space with more games. There are going to be lots of injuries and it will benefit the stronger panels.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on January 30, 2023, 11:27:08 AM
Don't have an issue with Cavanagh in his analysis as such, it's his stupid 'jokes' or what he perceives to be witty remarks about Dublin or things that have happened in the past
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2023, 11:35:40 AM
Quote from: lenny on January 30, 2023, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.

Paul Flynn very good though but cavanagh isn't mature enough to handle adult analysis.
Flynn is excellent
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on January 30, 2023, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: tintin25 on January 30, 2023, 11:27:08 AM
Don't have an issue with Cavanagh in his analysis as such, it's his stupid 'jokes' or what he perceives to be witty remarks about Dublin or things that have happened in the past

His 'jokes' went down like a lead balloon. Bad sign when you're the only one laughing at your own jokes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2023, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: lenny on January 30, 2023, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.

Paul Flynn very good though but cavanagh isn't mature enough to handle adult analysis.

very petulant and childish. I didn't see him last night but he was always like that before and wanted to get his digs in first. Shouldn't be near analysis.

Flynn probably polished enough with the his job etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on January 30, 2023, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2023, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: lenny on January 30, 2023, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.

What does Flynn work at?

Paul Flynn very good though but cavanagh isn't mature enough to handle adult analysis.

very petulant and childish. I didn't see him last night but he was always like that before and wanted to get his digs in first. Shouldn't be near analysis.

Flynn probably polished enough with the his job etc.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2023, 11:47:43 AM
He was CEO GPA. Not sure what he is now as I didn't realise he finished with that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tonto1888 on January 30, 2023, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: smort on January 30, 2023, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2023, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: lenny on January 30, 2023, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.

What does Flynn work at?

Paul Flynn very good though but cavanagh isn't mature enough to handle adult analysis.

very petulant and childish. I didn't see him last night but he was always like that before and wanted to get his digs in first. Shouldn't be near analysis.

Flynn probably polished enough with the his job etc.

was wondering what he worked at myself. He clearly only started it since his retirement from Dublin with him being a professional while he was playing inter county and what not.........
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2023, 12:21:09 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 30, 2023, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: lenny on January 30, 2023, 06:55:34 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 30, 2023, 12:46:40 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 29, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
Oh god is he still there.

Yup.
He can't string a sentence together and has nothing to say.
There is zero analysis there. Its going from bad to worse.

Paul Flynn very good though but cavanagh isn't mature enough to handle adult analysis.

very petulant and childish. I didn't see him last night but he was always like that before and wanted to get his digs in first. Shouldn't be near analysis.

Flynn probably polished enough with the his job etc.
I think Cavanagh showed signs of improvement.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 20, 2023, 07:02:01 PM
Can Evanne ni Chuilinn also do the live games instead of the Cantwell? A welcome change to the night time programme.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on February 21, 2023, 03:04:58 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 20, 2023, 07:02:01 PM
Can Evanne ni Chuilinn also do the live games instead of the Cantwell? A welcome change to the night time programme.

I'd second that, she's a huge improvement.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on February 21, 2023, 08:33:48 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on February 21, 2023, 03:04:58 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on February 20, 2023, 07:02:01 PM
Can Evanne ni Chuilinn also do the live games instead of the Cantwell? A welcome change to the night time programme.

I'd second that, she's a huge improvement.

+10
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: thewobbler on February 21, 2023, 08:35:46 PM
Arlene Foster would be an improvement on Cantwell.

There's almost nobody or nothing (including nothing itself) that wouldn't be an improvement on Cavanagh.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghtothebone on February 26, 2023, 10:47:48 PM
Absolute joke.
Division 2 games on  before Division 1 games.

WTF?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on February 26, 2023, 10:58:02 PM
Has Cavanagh had his lips done?
Looks like a bit of a pout going on there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 26, 2023, 11:01:07 PM
The commentator / summariser doing the Derry Kildare game is shocking.

Studio much better.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghtothebone on February 26, 2023, 11:19:51 PM
13 seconds on Armagh.
F##king RTE b@5tards.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2023, 11:25:10 PM
Like the game was on live yesterday, what do you want?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2023, 11:29:22 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2023, 11:25:10 PM
Like the game was on live yesterday, what do you want?
And RTE did a very good job with the live presentation, plus the delay allowed for a good pre-game chat.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sandy Hill on February 26, 2023, 11:31:22 PM
Some panel tonight; 2 women and Seán Cavanagh and Armagh basically ignored.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: balladmaker on February 26, 2023, 11:43:53 PM
Anytime a southern team plays a northern team, the focus of the analysis is predominantly on the southern team every time.  No different tonight.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on February 26, 2023, 11:51:59 PM
Licence fees ;)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armaghtothebone on February 26, 2023, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2023, 11:25:10 PM
Like the game was on live yesterday, what do you want?

Was the Dublin game not on live too...a division 2 game.

How long did we get on the dubs?
How long did we get on Kerry?

Always the same site. After the Mayo game, analysis on Mayo, where they were, weakness strengths and a passing comment about Armagh doing well to get a draw.

To answer your direct question...simple really..to get the same amount of time as every other team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on February 27, 2023, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on February 26, 2023, 11:01:07 PM
The commentator / summariser doing the Derry Kildare game is shocking.

Studio much better.

Two new additions to the team, Niall McLaughlin scoring a goal and Benny Hurl scoring a point after Paul Cassidy fisted against the bar.  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 27, 2023, 07:59:32 AM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on February 26, 2023, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2023, 11:25:10 PM
Like the game was on live yesterday, what do you want?

Was the Dublin game not on live too...a division 2 game.

How long did we get on the dubs?
How long did we get on Kerry?

Always the same site. After the Mayo game, analysis on Mayo, where they were, weakness strengths and a passing comment about Armagh doing well to get a draw.

To answer your direct question...simple really..to get the same amount of time as every other team.
Why would the site change?
The essence of TSG is people complaining that there is a bias against their county.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/the-seasons-of-sundays-in-their-own-words-1.1476526

From not being able to send two cameras to a game in the mid-'70s, 'The Sunday Game' now covers close to 100 games a year in some shape or form. The biggest complaint the staff hear is the same now as it was then.

PB: "Not enough coverage.
RTÉ never show our county."

ML: "Ye only show the big boys."

DC: "Ye're always anti-our county."

PB: "I can understand it in some ways.
"That's the way the media works, not just on The Sunday Game.
"It's the same in print, the same on radio – the big teams get the most coverage. There's very few counties in the country that we haven't shown live. We've done the Waterford footballers, the Tipperary footballers, Sligo, all of them."

DC: "It can be politically awkward because people take so much offence on behalf of their own county. I went to RTÉ from Kerry.
"The night before I came up for my interview, I was in a house with Mike Neeson who was the chairman of Dr Crokes at the time.
"And there were people making fun of what Anne Doyle said on the news or giving out about Michael Lyster said on The Sunday Game.
"And I remember thinking of that when I started on the show – that no matter how good you were or how even-handed you were, people were still going to take offence.
"They were still going to be annoyed. Kerry people would still think you were against them because you showed Tomás Ó Sé or Paul Galvin doing something they shouldn't have.
"Every county thinks you're against them."
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: RedHand88 on February 27, 2023, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on February 26, 2023, 11:19:51 PM
13 seconds on Armagh.
F##king RTE b@5tards.

Wasn't the game televised?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on February 27, 2023, 08:28:32 AM
Monaghan remind me of the later years of Brian Clough's Nottingham Forest. They also had a gentle descent from achievement and a dance around the plughole that lasted a few seasons but eventually they lost and went down. They only came back recently.

Monaghan never won the European Cup . The peak of their achievement in the current iteration was at  the all Ireland quarter level. Tyrone could always stop them. There are no Ulster titles now. Other teams have come. This year may be safe but when Monaghan do get relegated they probably won't be coming back in the express lane. Even Dublin struggle to rebuild their team.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: SCFC on April 09, 2023, 09:48:54 PM
Was the sound on the NY Leitrim game out of sync with the video?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2023, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: SCFC on April 09, 2023, 09:48:54 PM
Was the sound on the NY Leitrim game out of sync with the video?

Think so. Brutal
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on April 09, 2023, 09:54:30 PM
That NY/Leitrim coverage was really really poor
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on April 09, 2023, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 27, 2023, 07:59:32 AM
Quote from: Armaghtothebone on February 26, 2023, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 26, 2023, 11:25:10 PM
Like the game was on live yesterday, what do you want?

Was the Dublin game not on live too...a division 2 game.

How long did we get on the dubs?
How long did we get on Kerry?

Always the same site. After the Mayo game, analysis on Mayo, where they were, weakness strengths and a passing comment about Armagh doing well to get a draw.

To answer your direct question...simple really..to get the same amount of time as every other team.
Why would the site change?
The essence of TSG is people complaining that there is a bias against their county.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/the-seasons-of-sundays-in-their-own-words-1.1476526

From not being able to send two cameras to a game in the mid-'70s, 'The Sunday Game' now covers close to 100 games a year in some shape or form. The biggest complaint the staff hear is the same now as it was then.

PB: "Not enough coverage.
RTÉ never show our county."

ML: "Ye only show the big boys."

DC: "Ye're always anti-our county."

PB: "I can understand it in some ways.
"That's the way the media works, not just on The Sunday Game.
"It's the same in print, the same on radio – the big teams get the most coverage. There's very few counties in the country that we haven't shown live. We've done the Waterford footballers, the Tipperary footballers, Sligo, all of them."

DC: "It can be politically awkward because people take so much offence on behalf of their own county. I went to RTÉ from Kerry.
"The night before I came up for my interview, I was in a house with Mike Neeson who was the chairman of Dr Crokes at the time.
"And there were people making fun of what Anne Doyle said on the news or giving out about Michael Lyster said on The Sunday Game.
"And I remember thinking of that when I started on the show – that no matter how good you were or how even-handed you were, people were still going to take offence.
"They were still going to be annoyed. Kerry people would still think you were against them because you showed Tomás Ó Sé or Paul Galvin doing something they shouldn't have.
"Every county thinks you're against them."

The board should be like twitter and restrict you to a certain amount of characters
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Jim Bob on April 10, 2023, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night


Why not just turn him off?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 03:44:12 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on April 10, 2023, 02:49:39 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night


Why not just turn him off?

I couldn't  find  the remote
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lenny on April 10, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night

He's the best by far at the moment on the evening show. Cavanagh is just pathetic, as was tubridy last week. Keegan and Canavan are good at the live games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gmac on April 10, 2023, 06:29:17 PM
Give paddy joe his own show
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on April 10, 2023, 06:50:00 PM
Will Sky gone and RTE running GAAgo don't expect much in the way of anything too innovative or that requires too much in the way of effort from the RTE GAA department.



Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on April 10, 2023, 07:21:09 PM
Quote from: lenny on April 10, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night

He's the best by far at the moment on the evening show. Cavanagh is just pathetic, as was tubridy last week. Keegan and Canavan are good at the live games.

Canavan by far the best pundit. Wouldn't be too hard on Tubridy. Only starting out and nerves probably get the better of him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 10, 2023, 07:21:09 PM
Quote from: lenny on April 10, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night

He's the best by far at the moment on the evening show. Cavanagh is just pathetic, as was tubridy last week. Keegan and Canavan are good at the live games.

Canavan by far the best pundit. Wouldn't be too hard on Tubridy. Only starting out and nerves probably get the better of him.

Yeah I actually  felt for Tubridy,  rabbit caught in headlights .  Hopefully he'll relax into it 

Quote from: lenny on April 10, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 10, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
Paul Flynn is  a hard listen . I nearly drifted off  to sleep when  he was on  last night

He's the best by far at the moment on the evening show. Cavanagh is just pathetic, as was tubridy last week. Keegan and Canavan are good at the live games.

Best by far,  there's not much  competition tbf. I just  can't warm to Flynn.  I  don't trust him  being there, with  his GPA connections.  He's like  an Orangeman on the parades commission
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2023, 07:54:59 PM
I think Flynn and Cavanagh add a lot to the analysis.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JoG2 on April 10, 2023, 08:17:44 PM
Whether co commentary or on podcasts etc, Enda McGinley is brilliant.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Gael85 on April 10, 2023, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 10, 2023, 08:17:44 PM
Whether co commentary or on podcasts etc, Enda McGinley is brilliant.

Enjoy McGinley or Fitzmaurice as co commentators. Both very knowledgeable and better than listening to Tommy Carr, Martin Carney, Dolan and McStay.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on April 10, 2023, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 10, 2023, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 10, 2023, 08:17:44 PM
Whether co commentary or on podcasts etc, Enda McGinley is brilliant.

Enjoy McGinley or Fitzmaurice as co commentators. Both very knowledgeable and better than listening to Tommy Carr, Martin Carney, Dolan and McStay.

Martin 'Very much so' Carney
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on April 11, 2023, 07:43:52 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 10, 2023, 08:17:44 PM
Whether co commentary or on podcasts etc, Enda McGinley is brilliant.

My only problem is he constantly tries to downplay foul play.
No matter how blatant or clear-cut he always tries to make excuses for any player who cheats and absolutely never gives a moment's thought to the player being fouled.
It's a massive weak point of his in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Tubberman on April 11, 2023, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: Gael85 on April 10, 2023, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on April 10, 2023, 08:17:44 PM
Whether co commentary or on podcasts etc, Enda McGinley is brilliant.

Enjoy McGinley or Fitzmaurice as co commentators. Both very knowledgeable and better than listening to Tommy Carr, Martin Carney, Dolan and McStay.

None of them are co commentators any more.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 11, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
Sunday game away to the dogs, hard watch, hurling lads only men worth watching.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on April 11, 2023, 10:24:10 AM
Has been like that for years. I always fast forward through the football analysis. I'd listen to the hurling a bit more. Sheedy and Daly good to listen to and know their stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: highorlow on April 11, 2023, 03:15:21 PM
QuoteNone of them are co commentators any more.

Who was the Ulster co commentator for Mayo v Ross? He knew his stuff anyhow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on April 11, 2023, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: highorlow on April 11, 2023, 03:15:21 PM
QuoteNone of them are co commentators any more.

Who was the Ulster co commentator for Mayo v Ross? He knew his stuff anyhow.
Enda McGinley
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on April 11, 2023, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 11, 2023, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: highorlow on April 11, 2023, 03:15:21 PM
QuoteNone of them are co commentators any more.

Who was the Ulster co commentator for Mayo v Ross? He knew his stuff anyhow.
Enda McGinley

How did it all go wrong with him in Antrim?

Is he a waffler or did lads not just take on board what he was saying?

He seems to talk a good game. Good lad on matches.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: onefineday on April 15, 2023, 07:35:31 AM
Quote from: marty34 on April 11, 2023, 05:27:09 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 11, 2023, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: highorlow on April 11, 2023, 03:15:21 PM
QuoteNone of them are co commentators any more.

Who was the Ulster co commentator for Mayo v Ross? He knew his stuff anyhow.
Enda McGinley

How did it all go wrong with him in Antrim?

Is he a waffler or did lads not just take on board what he was saying?

He seems to talk a good game. Good lad on matches.
They got promoted and stayed in Div 3, lost to Leitrim away in the TC, on the face of it that's hardly failure unless there's something not apparent to the layman.
Enda comes on to off the ball now and again too, certainly seems to know what he's talking about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: J70 on April 15, 2023, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: SCFC on April 09, 2023, 09:48:54 PM
Was the sound on the NY Leitrim game out of sync with the video?

Just saw this.

I thought it was my dodgy tv box so I didn't watch the other highlights either.

At least GAA Go is back on the Roku this week, so I can always compare the two if in doubt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on April 16, 2023, 04:26:57 PM
Not sure what to make of this? No mention of the f**k-up on the New York report... ;D

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/0410/1376142-75-minutes-11-games-inside-years-first-sunday-game/
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on May 15, 2023, 09:59:51 AM
Is the Sunday Game a highlights show or chat show now? Why where we treated to 15 minutes of nonsense at the end discussing the integration of camogie and ladies football into the GAA and a the drinking culture in teams? It was the same on the Saturday Game when they spent 10 minutes of the end talking about the promotion of hurling. People want to see more highlights. Or maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: smort on May 15, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
Another reason there needs to be a midweek, magazine-type show
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JimStynes on May 15, 2023, 10:11:18 AM
For all Brolly's nonsence he's right about the Sunday Game being crap now! I very rarely ever watch it now and I wouldn't have missed it back in the good old days. Everything is so sanitised these days.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on May 15, 2023, 10:33:14 AM
It has gotten so bad. Keegan was a great baller but he's terrible as an analyst, as is Flynn. Botox Sean isn't great, Gooch either. Bar Canavan there's not much there on the footballing side, Ciaran Whelan isn't great but he's better than the rest.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Saffrongael on May 15, 2023, 10:37:01 AM
I don't mind Keegan and he is new to it but don't think Flynn or McMahon on bbc have brought much to the table

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2023, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: smort on May 15, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
Another reason there needs to be a midweek, magazine-type show
Breaking Ball was the only one they ever had that nailed this, no presenter, just a voice over and features on the the matches. Format could be extended to include a panel going on with the rambling discussions on drinking, camogie integration, competition structures etc. that have no place whatsoever on the SG as there isn't time to be fluting around with this stuff given the amount of matches now.

Some of the newer analysts aren't brilliant, the likes of Gooch might have been an all time great but is not bringing a whole lot to the couch. Keegan is in the same boat. Fitzmaurice mightn't have the most engaging voice but he is the best co comms in the business, great insights to what's happening on the pitch. Canavan is excellent.
The newer SG intake might be a mixed bag but Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke had to go, they were shocking poor. O'Rourke is showing right now with Meath just how completely out of touch he is. Brolly is insufferable and thankfully is easy to avoid now he's off the national broadcaster and confined to a rag published on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: JimStynes on May 15, 2023, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2023, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: smort on May 15, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
Another reason there needs to be a midweek, magazine-type show
Breaking Ball was the only one they ever had that nailed this, no presenter, just a voice over and features on the the matches. Format could be extended to include a panel going on with the rambling discussions on drinking, camogie integration, competition structures etc. that have no place whatsoever on the SG as there isn't time to be fluting around with this stuff given the amount of matches now.

Some of the newer analysts aren't brilliant, the likes of Gooch might have been an all time great but is not bringing a whole lot to the couch. Keegan is in the same boat. Fitzmaurice mightn't have the most engaging voice but he is the best co comms in the business, great insights to what's happening on the pitch. Canavan is excellent.
The newer SG intake might be a mixed bag but Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke had to go, they were shocking poor. O'Rourke is showing right now with Meath just how completely out of touch he is. Brolly is insufferable and thankfully is easy to avoid now he's off the national broadcaster and confined to a rag published on Sunday.

Towards the end their time was up but we once would have tuned in to hear what they were going to come out with. Controversial or whatever it was, at least it was entertaining. Colm Parkinson or someone like that would be good. A lot don't like him but he would at least be entertaining. At the minute the Sunday Game is completely shite. Something needs to change.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: twohands!!! on May 15, 2023, 10:47:53 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on May 15, 2023, 10:11:18 AM
For all Brolly's nonsence he's right about the Sunday Game being crap now! I very rarely ever watch it now and I wouldn't have missed it back in the good old days. Everything is so sanitised these days.

Twas crap when he was there and tis crap now.

Keegan is very poor even by RTE standards.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on May 15, 2023, 10:54:06 AM
It's thrown together. On sat night they showed brief tailteann highlights. They never discussed the Down game. Along with others. It's a farce. If thry that the tailteann like that then how do they expect to promote it. Thry mentioned thr undervalued Joe mc Donagh but again more lip service. Down v kildare relegation tie there was no one at it yet they spoke more about it than the Down footballers.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Armagh18 on May 15, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.
I doubt there would be much between any of those 3 teams.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: screenexile on May 15, 2023, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 15, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.
I doubt there would be much between any of those 3 teams.

Except the 6 points you beat them by last year in the Championship and the 11 Derry did!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ClubScene13 on May 15, 2023, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: screenexile on May 15, 2023, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 15, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.
I doubt there would be much between any of those 3 teams.

Except the 6 points you beat them by last year in the Championship and the 11 Derry did!

Waiting in the long grass....we're not a good team, shocking from AI win, but I reckon would still be hard to put away in Croke Park. No AI threat in that team though I will admit
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on May 15, 2023, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.

Tyrone see to be a jekyll and hyde team these days and are just too inconsistent.  On a good day, they can be a handful, but you couldn't rely on it.  The two guys seem to think we haven't seen them fully and they may be thinking they are going to get a bit of a run, but I don't personally see it happening.  Liable to go out and beat Galway, but fail to back it up against Armagh. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on May 15, 2023, 11:21:29 AM
Forgot about Fitzmaurice, I do like him and would buy the Examiner on a Monday in football season just to read him.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ClubScene13 on May 15, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.


I'm the same The Sunday Game is shocking. Bland is the right term as well, I find myself getting distracted and lifting the phone as it's not very engaging. Would it be mental to say Des Cahill was better than Jacqui Hurley as well or have I lost the marbles?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:30:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 15, 2023, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.

Tyrone see to be a jekyll and hyde team these days and are just too inconsistent.  On a good day, they can be a handful, but you couldn't rely on it.  The two guys seem to think we haven't seen them fully and they may be thinking they are going to get a bit of a run, but I don't personally see it happening.  Liable to go out and beat Galway, but fail to back it up against Armagh.

There are a few Tyrone lads like Canavan, McGinley and Cavanagh working in RTE now alongside Flynn and Keegan so maybe they are simply trying to cosy up to them. But how they rate Tyrone as the best Ulster have to offer simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The biggest issue I have with the show though is the fact that it is long past its sell by date. Last night was one of the worst examples.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:30:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 15, 2023, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.

Tyrone see to be a jekyll and hyde team these days and are just too inconsistent.  On a good day, they can be a handful, but you couldn't rely on it.  The two guys seem to think we haven't seen them fully and they may be thinking they are going to get a bit of a run, but I don't personally see it happening.  Liable to go out and beat Galway, but fail to back it up against Armagh.

There are a few Tyrone lads like Canavan, McGinley and Cavanagh working in RTE now alongside Flynn and Keegan so maybe they are simply trying to cosy up to them. But how they rate Tyrone as the best Ulster have to offer simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The biggest issue I have with the show though is the fact that it is long past its sell by date. Last night was one of the worst examples.

TSG seems to be stuck between what it wants to be. Its trying to be MOTD with highlights and key moments discussed. Its trying to be like Skys Monday Night Football where they go into a deep dive into tactics and playing styles and also trying to be a magazine show touching on wider talking points and other codes.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 15, 2023, 11:42:25 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:30:57 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 15, 2023, 11:16:31 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.

Tyrone see to be a jekyll and hyde team these days and are just too inconsistent.  On a good day, they can be a handful, but you couldn't rely on it.  The two guys seem to think we haven't seen them fully and they may be thinking they are going to get a bit of a run, but I don't personally see it happening.  Liable to go out and beat Galway, but fail to back it up against Armagh.

There are a few Tyrone lads like Canavan, McGinley and Cavanagh working in RTE now alongside Flynn and Keegan so maybe they are simply trying to cosy up to them. But how they rate Tyrone as the best Ulster have to offer simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

The biggest issue I have with the show though is the fact that it is long past its sell by date. Last night was one of the worst examples.

It's very hard to know where Tyrone are at but if they get a run together there's more chance of them going on to challenge for an All ireland than both Derry or Armagh. They're just as liable to get knocked out in the last 12 at the minute but they have the pedigree to do something if get a run going. That's what winning so many All Ireland's at senior and underage level does. Armagh struggled to cope with the pressure of winning an Ulster yesterday, imagine what they'd be like facing Kerry in a semi final. They also couldn't win in Omagh in the league when it mattered this year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tintin25 on May 15, 2023, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on May 15, 2023, 11:25:48 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 11:09:33 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.

That was woeful stuff alright. Taking form from 2 years ago and elevating them above the 2 best current teams in the province.

Listen to a few decent podcasts for GAA analysis now. The Sunday Game is finished in terms of analysis, its shockingly bland stuff.


I'm the same The Sunday Game is shocking. Bland is the right term as well, I find myself getting distracted and lifting the phone as it's not very engaging. Would it be mental to say Des Cahill was better than Jacqui Hurley as well or have I lost the marbles?

Nope, I think she's really poor as a presenter.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 15, 2023, 12:03:11 PM
Tyrone know how to win all Irelands.Neither of the other 2 do. And Tyrone never follow up all Ireland wins. So of course they would be rated ahead of Derry and Armagh. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Watcher on May 15, 2023, 12:09:18 PM
While yesterday's game was tense it was poor enough for the most part.  If Tyrone can get their act together there's nothing from yesterday to fear.  Not sure if we could get over the dublins n kerrys of the world though
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 15, 2023, 12:18:07 PM
It's hard to know how good Dublin are.Kerry miss David Moran .
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on May 15, 2023, 12:30:54 PM
David Tubridy hasn't taken to the punditry at all. Very nervous and gets muddled up with the point he is trying to make.

I think part of the problem is that they have that many pundits, none of them can form any kind of chemistry whether it be in the live shows or the Sunday night show. Whatever about Spillane, Brolly and O'Rourke at least they had that. McGuinness and Canavan bounced off each other well on Sky I thought as they were on most if not all their live shows.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2023, 12:59:59 PM
Tyrone couldn't even beat Monaghan, they been bad for over a year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2023, 02:03:48 PM
Don't know why people are writing off Tyrone, they were cruising in 1st half against Monaghan, made a bit of a bags of it in the second half but this is a hugely dangerous game for Galway, when did we beat them in the championship last?
Out of the 3rd seeds they were the ones I didn't want out of the hat anyway, Mayo obviously at the same level but the familiarity is there with them. The Tyrone lads have the All Ireland medals in the back pocket, outside of Dublin and Kerry who else has done it? They could easily rock up to Salthill with a huge performance next Saturday.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 15, 2023, 02:14:42 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2023, 02:03:48 PM
Don't know why people are writing off Tyrone, they were cruising in 1st half against Monaghan, made a bit of a bags of it in the second half but this is a hugely dangerous game for Galway, when did we beat them in the championship last?
Out of the 3rd seeds they were the ones I didn't want out of the hat anyway, Mayo obviously at the same level but the familiarity is there with them. The Tyrone lads have the All Ireland medals in the back pocket, outside of Dublin and Kerry who else has done it? They could easily rock up to Salthill with a huge performance next Saturday.

You already beat them in the league this year without Comer and Walsh. Galway defend well nowadays, Tyrone haven't defended well since the 2021 All-Ireland final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 02:35:20 PM
Who brought the dog into the studio?

https://twitter.com/MCLOUGHLINFRANK/status/1657868300657762308/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1657868300657762308&currentTweetUser=MCLOUGHLINFRANK
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Derryman forever on May 15, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
While I have great respect for Tyrone,  it is fairly lazy analysis to say a team that has only one win in championship football in two yesrs, is better than teams that have progressed to finals . And that win against a third division team and hard won at that.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NotedObserver on May 15, 2023, 03:38:28 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 15, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
While I have great respect for Tyrone,  it is fairly lazy analysis to say a team that has only one win in championship football in two yesrs, is better than teams that have progressed to finals . And that win against a third division team and hard won at that.

To me them boys don't rate either side as top level. Tyrone could better but on recent times they look well of the pace so to me it doesn't look like they've been following Tyrone much
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on May 15, 2023, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 15, 2023, 03:24:42 PM
While I have great respect for Tyrone,  it is fairly lazy analysis to say a team that has only one win in championship football in two yesrs, is better than teams that have progressed to finals . And that win against a third division team and hard won at that.

With some people there's a bit of the can't bring themselves to look at rivals as good.

Tyrone are a funny one under this management. This Galway game will make or break them I think.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Onthe40 on May 15, 2023, 04:40:26 PM
make or break them.. I wouldn't think so
Galways would be firm favs for this at home, don't think anyone would disagree with that

Tyrone beat Armagh at home and Westmeath in the last game and their safely through
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
I don't think these group games will make or break anyone given that you only need to win one match to qualify. I'd expect Galway to win but Tyrone will need to show that they are capable of at least being competitive.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
I don't think these group games will make or break anyone given that you only need to win one match to qualify. I'd expect Galway to win but Tyrone will need to show that they are capable of at least being competitive.
Sides are going to get caught out in the knock out stages thinking all they need is one win.

I'm sure the mindset with Tyrone players and management right now is aiming to top the group as it will give them the best chance of reaching and winning All-Ireland quarter final.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
I don't think these group games will make or break anyone given that you only need to win one match to qualify. I'd expect Galway to win but Tyrone will need to show that they are capable of at least being competitive.
Sides are going to get caught out in the knock out stages thinking all they need is one win.

I'm sure the mindset with Tyrone players and management right now is aiming to top the group as it will give them the best chance of reaching and winning All-Ireland quarter final.

A person with a rather negative frame of mind on boards.ie posted a scenario where Tyrone beat Galway and Armagh and then threw the game with Westmeath to try and ensure that Armagh do not qualify.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: bennydorano on May 15, 2023, 07:01:48 PM
Tyrone will be under pressure from the getgo if results go as expected, very very hard to see Tyrone beating Galway, Armagh should account for Westmeath meaning we should he travelling to Omagh with points on the board - that releaves pressure and should  mean we can play with a bit of freedom.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on May 15, 2023, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
I don't think these group games will make or break anyone given that you only need to win one match to qualify. I'd expect Galway to win but Tyrone will need to show that they are capable of at least being competitive.
Sides are going to get caught out in the knock out stages thinking all they need is one win.

I'm sure the mindset with Tyrone players and management right now is aiming to top the group as it will give them the best chance of reaching and winning All-Ireland quarter final.

A person with a rather negative frame of mind on boards.ie posted a scenario where Tyrone beat Galway and Armagh and then threw the game with Westmeath to try and ensure that Armagh do not qualify.
If Armagh have already beaten Westmeath won't they go through on Head to Head?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 15, 2023, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2023, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 15, 2023, 04:42:58 PM
I don't think these group games will make or break anyone given that you only need to win one match to qualify. I'd expect Galway to win but Tyrone will need to show that they are capable of at least being competitive.
Sides are going to get caught out in the knock out stages thinking all they need is one win.

I'm sure the mindset with Tyrone players and management right now is aiming to top the group as it will give them the best chance of reaching and winning All-Ireland quarter final.

A person with a rather negative frame of mind on boards.ie posted a scenario where Tyrone beat Galway and Armagh and then threw the game with Westmeath to try and ensure that Armagh do not qualify.
If Armagh have already beaten Westmeath won't they go through on Head to Head?
Armagh may mistake Westmeath for Galway and lose on penalties.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2023, 07:58:52 PM
Tyrone need put out a 3rd team to let Westmeath beat them to stop Armagh qualifying lol.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on May 15, 2023, 08:08:39 PM
Armagh should play in the Tailteann Cup where the pressure is lower for penalty takers and come back up when they have mastered the skills.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on May 15, 2023, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 15, 2023, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: smort on May 15, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
Another reason there needs to be a midweek, magazine-type show
Breaking Ball was the only one they ever had that nailed this, no presenter, just a voice over and features on the the matches. Format could be extended to include a panel going on with the rambling discussions on drinking, camogie integration, competition structures etc. that have no place whatsoever on the SG as there isn't time to be fluting around with this stuff given the amount of matches now.

Some of the newer analysts aren't brilliant, the likes of Gooch might have been an all time great but is not bringing a whole lot to the couch. Keegan is in the same boat. Fitzmaurice mightn't have the most engaging voice but he is the best co comms in the business, great insights to what's happening on the pitch. Canavan is excellent.
The newer SG intake might be a mixed bag but Brolly, Spillane and O'Rourke had to go, they were shocking poor. O'Rourke is showing right now with Meath just how completely out of touch he is. Brolly is insufferable and thankfully is easy to avoid now he's off the national broadcaster and confined to a rag published on Sunday.

Cooper isn't  great tbh. Nor Keegan.  Great players  don't always make  a great pundit ,  and rte should look  at  good talkers/personalities rather  than  great players . 

I've seen a few  occasions of tsg  analysts using iPads/touch screens   with "beam me up scotty" graphics .  Oh god, it's awful.  Trying to show people we're  embracing new technology  and bringing you great analysis, but  it's absolutely laughable

I dunno about the  rest of you ,  but I don't  want to be bombarded with  tactics/graphics ., nor do I want  to be bothered with  listening to  more guff about championship  structures ideas every week. A bit of analysis  with analysts who have  a bit of personality is  what's needed
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2023, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 15, 2023, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 04:56:14 PM
Sides are going to get caught out in the knock out stages thinking all they need is one win.

I'm sure the mindset with Tyrone players and management right now is aiming to top the group as it will give them the best chance of reaching and winning All-Ireland quarter final.

A person with a rather negative frame of mind on boards.ie posted a scenario where Tyrone beat Galway and Armagh and then threw the game with Westmeath to try and ensure that Armagh do not qualify.
If Armagh have already beaten Westmeath won't they go through on Head to Head?

What's the use in a conspiracy theory if you use the rules to debunk them  ;D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: DhoireTheas on May 18, 2023, 10:27:15 PM
I just noticed that The Sunday Game removed the scene of Rory Gallagher from the intro.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on June 03, 2023, 10:37:12 PM
Paul Flynn is a  great cure for insomnia.  When he speaks , I find myself vdrifting off
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 04, 2023, 01:06:55 AM
The product (inter-county Football) has gone underground for the armchair spectator that is! I've got so used to Football not being on terrestrial TV that  I completely forgot TSG was on this evening.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: shantygael on June 04, 2023, 01:57:49 AM
Not often I agree with you but plus 1
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GJL on June 04, 2023, 10:44:12 AM
Quote from: screenexile on May 15, 2023, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 15, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
Quote from: Decod89 on May 15, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
The two lads last night came to the conclusion that Tyrone are the strongest Ulster team left in the AI series.
The same Tyrone team that have won one championship game since 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year.
I doubt there would be much between any of those 3 teams.

Except the 6 points you beat them by last year in the Championship and the 11 Derry did!

One from the two dispatched yesterday. Maybe the lads on TSG weren't that far wrong. 🤔
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: mad tan on June 05, 2023, 02:02:24 PM
 Commentator said Louth got the equaliser with their last point against Mayo. They corrected himself, they edited out of the Sunday game last night. Camera work not great for Tailteann Cup games also need to play games at smaller grounds. Looks dreadful to see  stands with rows of seats and no one seating in them.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2023, 02:42:40 PM
Quote from: sensini on May 18, 2023, 11:31:00 PM
1. TSG gone to the dogs.
2. TSG never show our county
3. TSG has a hurling bias
TSG eternal
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on June 18, 2023, 10:14:04 PM
Sunday Game not even showing the crucial moment in the Tyrone-Westmeath match with the Heslin free. A kick which would have sent Westmeath through and Tyrone out on their asses.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on June 18, 2023, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: square_ball on June 18, 2023, 10:14:04 PM
Sunday Game not even showing the crucial moment in the Tyrone-Westmeath match with the Heslin free. A kick which would have sent Westmeath through and Tyrone out on their asses.

Yeah, was wondering what Dessie Dolan was on about, when he talked of missed frees!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 18, 2023, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 18, 2023, 10:17:33 PM
Quote from: square_ball on June 18, 2023, 10:14:04 PM
Sunday Game not even showing the crucial moment in the Tyrone-Westmeath match with the Heslin free. A kick which would have sent Westmeath through and Tyrone out on their asses.

Yeah, was wondering what Dessie Dolan was on about, when he talked of missed frees!

Totally bizarre not to show that free kick.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mikhailov on June 18, 2023, 10:47:36 PM
Eventually they show the free kick in the post game analysis. However, absolutely no mention of the crazy decision to not award a black card and penalty for the cynical pull down on Kilpatrick

I am aware the referee claimed it was a high tackle rather than a pull down (so not a black card offence!!!) but it was still a penalty as the defender was last man

TSG has gone to the dogs....now not worthwhile watching. Better watching golf on Sunday nights or MOTD during soccer season
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: restorepride on June 18, 2023, 10:48:03 PM
Or the tackle on Conor Glass.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on June 18, 2023, 10:56:38 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 18, 2023, 10:51:02 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on June 18, 2023, 10:47:36 PM
Eventually they show the free kick in the post game analysis. However, absolutely no mention of the crazy decision to not award a black card and penalty for the cynical pull down on Kilpatrick

I am aware the referee claimed it was a high tackle rather than a pull down (so not a black card offence!!!) but it was still a penalty as the defender was last man

TSG has gone to the dogs....now not worthwhile watching. Better watching golf on Sunday nights or MOTD during soccer season
Is that a rule?

No it's not. I doubt he's been watching too much MOTD.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mikhailov on June 18, 2023, 10:59:12 PM
It is the rule if it is a goal scoring opportunity and it certainly was.

Sure Kerry got a penalty 2 weeks ago and it wasn't as clear cut a goal opportunity as this one, but sure Kerry play the beautiful game so they deserve it

Both Mark O'Se and Paddy Andrews both commented on GAAGO that it was a blatant black card and a 100% penalty
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on June 18, 2023, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on June 18, 2023, 10:59:12 PM
It is the rule if it is a goal scoring opportunity and it certainly was.

Sure Kerry got a penalty 2 weeks ago and it wasn't as clear cut a goal opportunity as this one, but sure Kerry play the beautiful game so they deserve it

Both Mark O'Se and Paddy Andrews both commented on GAAGO that it was a blatant black card and a 100% penalty

You have suggested it should be a penalty because he was last man which there is no mention of in the rule book.

As Duine says above it has to be a black card offence. It's cynical as hell and obviously denying a goal scoring chance. I'd suggest it's a failure of the rules that it doesn't allow any sort of foul denying a goal scoring chance to be turned into a penalty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: yellowcard on June 18, 2023, 11:15:16 PM
It was a high tackle and a yellow card so the referee made the correct call.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2023, 11:17:36 PM
Correct but rule needs rewriting.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on June 18, 2023, 11:22:55 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 18, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
I agree that it is a failure of the rules but I wouldn't go as far as you do. An honest tackle which fouls an attacker (outside the penalty area) shouldn't be a penalty IMO.

The soccer model should be used for all deliberate fouls (like today) but the nitty gritty of what's deliberate and what's not is not going to be pretty.

Yeah possibly fair enough. They probably just haven't gone far enough with their current penalty/black card rule in that the likes of todays incident and say a pull back by the jersey where there is no attempt to play the ball should be a penalty.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Captain Scarlet on June 19, 2023, 12:05:23 AM
As an aside overall the graphic said Glenn Ryan managed Kildare U20s to leinster in 2018...and on the live broadcast they were due to talk about Alex Beirne but Kevin Flynn was highlighted by the halo thingy and by the time it was noticed Gooch got thrown off and they just meandered a bit.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 19, 2023, 12:57:21 AM
Rulebook needs updated, both today and in the Kerry game few weeks bck, man was in on nets and fouled, cause one tried take the head of him to stop the player, and the other dragged him to the ground, ones a penalty, the other not, doesn't make sense. a deliberate tackle stopping a goal scoring opportunity should be a black card. But don't agree with the rule for a penalty if its not in the square. Another thing they need loo. At us constant fouling to slow the game down by Constant fouling. Kildare fullback made a dick of himself going down holsi g his head with no one near him. Ref told him to get up to f**k!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 18, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
I agree that it is a failure of the rules but I wouldn't go as far as you do. An honest tackle which fouls an attacker (outside the penalty area) shouldn't be a penalty IMO.

The soccer model should be used for all deliberate fouls (like today) but the nitty gritty of what's deliberate and what's not is not going to be pretty.

He was reaching from behind and caught the neck/shoulder area. Hand not even close to where the ball was. What part of his intentions at that stage would be an 'honest tackle'?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 19, 2023, 09:35:06 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 19, 2023, 12:57:21 AM
Rulebook needs updated, both today and in the Kerry game few weeks bck, man was in on nets and fouled, cause one tried take the head of him to stop the player, andthe other dragged him to the ground, ones a penalty, the other not, doesn't make sense. a deliberate tackle stopping a goal scoring opportunity should be a black card. But don't agree with the rule for a penalty if its not in the square. Another thing they need loo. At us constant fouling to slow the game down by Constant fouling. Kildare fullback made a dick of himself going down holsi g his head with no one near him. Ref told him to get up to f**k!

I'd agree with this. It would actually incentivise a player making the more dangerous high tackle. Crazy to have that in the rules.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 09:37:27 AM
On another note Canavan is a very good analyst. He did some good analysis on Tyrone and unlike other pundits credited the other teams play as opposed to just saying we were useless and let them in. Probably best out there.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: lurganblue on June 19, 2023, 01:41:52 PM
RTE really need to have a look at themselves in the control room for live matches.  They are forever missing hugely important kick-outs near the end of the game to show a replay. 
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2023, 01:59:34 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 09:37:27 AM
On another note Canavan is a very good analyst. He did some good analysis on Tyrone and unlike other pundits credited the other teams play as opposed to just saying we were useless and let them in. Probably best out there.
He really is
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on June 19, 2023, 01:41:52 PM
RTE really need to have a look at themselves in the control room for live matches.  They are forever missing hugely important kick-outs near the end of the game to show a replay.

That does my nut in.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: johnnycool on June 19, 2023, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 19, 2023, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on June 19, 2023, 01:41:52 PM
RTE really need to have a look at themselves in the control room for live matches.  They are forever missing hugely important kick-outs near the end of the game to show a replay.

That does my nut in.

Was it TG4 that tried to show replays in a small square on the screen with the live game going on it the background?

It obviously wasn't a success.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
Show the replay during a break of play, small square on TG4 was crap
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 20, 2023, 12:04:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 19, 2023, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 18, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
I agree that it is a failure of the rules but I wouldn't go as far as you do. An honest tackle which fouls an attacker (outside the penalty area) shouldn't be a penalty IMO.

The soccer model should be used for all deliberate fouls (like today) but the nitty gritty of what's deliberate and what's not is not going to be pretty.

He was reaching from behind and caught the neck/shoulder area. Hand not even close to where the ball was. What part of his intentions at that stage would be an 'honest tackle'?
I didn't suggest that this incident was an honest tackle.

This incident was a deliberate foul to stop a clear goal scoring opportunity. By right that should be a black card and a penalty.

Unfortunately, the rules for that don't cover this type of foul.
At the time I thought that was a blatant cynical pull down, therefore black card but goal opportunity? I have a problem with the interpretation of goal opportunity that leads to the award of a penalty when the attacking player is fouled outside the area but still has a lot to do to have a viable goal scoring attempt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2023, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 20, 2023, 12:04:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 19, 2023, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 18, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
I agree that it is a failure of the rules but I wouldn't go as far as you do. An honest tackle which fouls an attacker (outside the penalty area) shouldn't be a penalty IMO.

The soccer model should be used for all deliberate fouls (like today) but the nitty gritty of what's deliberate and what's not is not going to be pretty.

He was reaching from behind and caught the neck/shoulder area. Hand not even close to where the ball was. What part of his intentions at that stage would be an 'honest tackle'?
I didn't suggest that this incident was an honest tackle.

This incident was a deliberate foul to stop a clear goal scoring opportunity. By right that should be a black card and a penalty.

Unfortunately, the rules for that don't cover this type of foul.
At the time I thought that was a blatant cynical pull down, therefore black card but goal opportunity? I have a problem with the interpretation of goal opportunity that leads to the award of a penalty when the attacking player is fouled outside the area but still has a lot to do to have a viable goal scoring attempt.

A goal opportunity is when a player is heading towards the goal, a player or two head towards that player leaving a team mate free to off load the ball for a goal opportunity, but before he's able to off load (or shoot) he's brought to the ground.

There plenty of examples where players draw in other defenders, off load and this results in a goal attempt.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 21, 2023, 02:09:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2023, 10:13:08 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 20, 2023, 12:04:08 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 19, 2023, 01:15:35 PM
Quote from: GJL on June 19, 2023, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on June 18, 2023, 11:18:09 PM
I agree that it is a failure of the rules but I wouldn't go as far as you do. An honest tackle which fouls an attacker (outside the penalty area) shouldn't be a penalty IMO.

The soccer model should be used for all deliberate fouls (like today) but the nitty gritty of what's deliberate and what's not is not going to be pretty.

He was reaching from behind and caught the neck/shoulder area. Hand not even close to where the ball was. What part of his intentions at that stage would be an 'honest tackle'?
I didn't suggest that this incident was an honest tackle.

This incident was a deliberate foul to stop a clear goal scoring opportunity. By right that should be a black card and a penalty.

Unfortunately, the rules for that don't cover this type of foul.
At the time I thought that was a blatant cynical pull down, therefore black card but goal opportunity? I have a problem with the interpretation of goal opportunity that leads to the award of a penalty when the attacking player is fouled outside the area but still has a lot to do to have a viable goal scoring attempt.

A goal opportunity is when a player is heading towards the goal, a player or two head towards that player leaving a team mate free to off load the ball for a goal opportunity, but before he's able to off load (or shoot) he's brought to the ground.

There plenty of examples where players draw in other defenders, off load and this results in a goal attempt.
As I wrote, I have a problem with that definition of a goal opportunity, it's far too wide.
Most goal opportunities are not converted because they are just an opportunity, also defenders can get back and save with hands, obviously in contrast with soccer but in soccer there is no penalty award if the cynical foul is outside the box.

I'd say the gilt edge definition of a goal opportunity in GAA  is that infamous incident when the laggard Cavanagh was left for dead  but somehow managed to drag down McManus who was bearing down with serious menace on goal. That Cork Kerry incident, I'd have thought black card and free kick, there was too much speculation about what might happen had the Kerry player just been legally confronted.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Rossfan on June 21, 2023, 08:23:36 AM
Foul play shouldn't pay.
It still does too often.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NAG1 on June 21, 2023, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
Show the replay during a break of play, small square on TG4 was crap

At least they were attempting to be innovative and creative with their approach to the coverage.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2023, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on June 21, 2023, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
Show the replay during a break of play, small square on TG4 was crap

At least they were attempting to be innovative and creative with their approach to the coverage.

I'm not saying it wasn't innovative, it just didn't work, to be fair I just want to watch the action live, with the multiple replays and slow mo's, we can save that stuff for halftime and maybe reduce the amount of rubbish they talk during that
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Main Street on June 25, 2023, 01:45:26 PM
I wish I had a seperate volume switch to silence out the co-commentator who invariably contributes an overabundance of quantity over quality by a ratio of 100/1 delivered at breakneck speed, filling up every morsel of air space.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: snoopdog on June 26, 2023, 10:05:28 AM
Was there no sat game on sat night?  Why the need to show Saturdays games again? Lip service paid to the tailteann Cup,  just about.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 10:06:47 AM
No. The highlights were at the end of the hurling. I guess there were about 4 hours of hurling and they didn't want another GAA program.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 11:07:18 AM
The Sunday Game not the same since Brolly got screwed and given the boot sur!!!!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 11:09:09 AM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0626/1391116-rte-undisclosed-payments/

thoughts......

RTE toxic at the top?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
Brolly is loving this stuff but , and I like him, he was deservedly given the road with too many personal attacks between Cavanagh, Grimley, Gough. He deserved it.

Yes RTE appears rotten to the core too and it can be that and have rightly given Brolly the road too  :D
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2023, 11:46:50 AM
Quote from: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 11:09:09 AM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0626/1391116-rte-undisclosed-payments/

thoughts......

RTE toxic at the top?
RTE's funding system has collapsed. Google and Facebook took most of the ads.
They can't increase the licence fee to compensate.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2023, 11:46:50 AM
Quote from: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 11:09:09 AM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0626/1391116-rte-undisclosed-payments/

thoughts......

RTE toxic at the top?
RTE's funding system has collapsed. Google and Facebook took most of the ads.
They can't increase the licence fee to compensate.

good point sur!
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Mikhailov on July 02, 2023, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2023, 11:46:50 AM
Quote from: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 11:09:09 AM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0626/1391116-rte-undisclosed-payments/

thoughts......

RTE toxic at the top?
RTE's funding system has collapsed. Google and Facebook took most of the ads.
They can't increase the licence fee to compensate.

good point sur!

TSG starts tonight's programme with the live RTÉ game today - FFS. Why not the 2 games yesterday that were behind the pay wall - embarrassing stuff. Totally clueless
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Hound on July 02, 2023, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on July 02, 2023, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 26, 2023, 11:46:50 AM
Quote from: ahyewillyewillyewill on June 26, 2023, 11:09:09 AM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0626/1391116-rte-undisclosed-payments/

thoughts......

RTE toxic at the top?
RTE's funding system has collapsed. Google and Facebook took most of the ads.
They can't increase the licence fee to compensate.

good point sur!

TSG starts tonight's programme with the live RTÉ game today - FFS. Why not the 2 games yesterday that were behind the pay wall - embarrassing stuff. Totally clueless
And the very first analyst (Colm Cooper) talking about the Dublin-Mayo game gives away the Kerry-Tyrone result in his first sentence
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
They showed the monaghan black card but didnt talk about it. What was Conor Lane thinking? Terrible call
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
They showed the monaghan black card but didnt talk about it. What was Conor Lane thinking? Terrible call

He made up for it with the free at the ref end
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
They showed the monaghan black card but didnt talk about it. What was Conor Lane thinking? Terrible call

He made up for it with the free at the ref end
No chance. Game could have been over as a result of the card.
here's another one. He (rightly) didn't give a foul for the shoulder. He then decides its a throw ball. Why? What rule is he using there? Its either a free for armagh for the shoulder or a free for Monaghan for overcarrying. A throw up is a mystery that only Lane can solve.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: 6th sam on July 02, 2023, 11:26:20 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
They showed the monaghan black card but didnt talk about it. What was Conor Lane thinking? Terrible call

He made up for it with the free at the ref end
No chance. Game could have been over as a result of the card.
here's another one. He (rightly) didn't give a foul for the shoulder. He then decides its a throw ball. Why? What rule is he using there? Its either a free for armagh for the shoulder or a free for Monaghan for overcarrying. A throw up is a mystery that only Lane can solve.
MR can keep us right but I imagine the throw up was again the correct decision. Throw up as head injury
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
They showed the monaghan black card but didnt talk about it. What was Conor Lane thinking? Terrible call

He made up for it with the free at the ref end
No chance. Game could have been over as a result of the card.
here's another one. He (rightly) didn't give a foul for the shoulder. He then decides its a throw ball. Why? What rule is he using there? Its either a free for armagh for the shoulder or a free for Monaghan for overcarrying. A throw up is a mystery that only Lane can solve.

I was in the kitchen when it happened so never seen it, came in and he was throwing ball up.

Did the lad go down injured after the collision? And did the ball spill out of players hands?

The rule is easy enough, if ref stops play for an injury he should allow the team in possession to have an indirect free.

Reasons for hopping a ball is to overturn a free or if ball is not in any possession when ref stops play or if the ball makes contact with ref in play.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on July 02, 2023, 11:50:52 PM
I think the ref needs a lot of credit for that decision. Armagh were baying for a free in, win the game, up the road.  But the ref took his time and made a very big call, which looks with hindsight to be a fair enough call.  Massive decision to make under the circumstances.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on July 08, 2023, 11:30:15 PM
Anyone  know what the  name of the instrumental tune   Is that TSG  play during live matches, just before  they go to an ad break?

Sounds  a bit like  what OMD or depeche mode  would do back in the day?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: armaghniac on July 08, 2023, 11:42:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:17:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2023, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: straightred on July 02, 2023, 11:07:13 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 02, 2023, 09:39:14 PM
They really didn't ignore the Mayo disallowed goal. RTE is a joke tv Station
They showed the monaghan black card but didnt talk about it. What was Conor Lane thinking? Terrible call

He made up for it with the free at the ref end
No chance. Game could have been over as a result of the card.
here's another one. He (rightly) didn't give a foul for the shoulder. He then decides its a throw ball. Why? What rule is he using there? Its either a free for armagh for the shoulder or a free for Monaghan for overcarrying. A throw up is a mystery that only Lane can solve.

I was in the kitchen when it happened so never seen it, came in and he was throwing ball up.

Did the lad go down injured after the collision? And did the ball spill out of players hands?

The rule is easy enough, if ref stops play for an injury he should allow the team in possession to have an indirect free.

Reasons for hopping a ball is to overturn a free or if ball is not in any possession when ref stops play or if the ball makes contact with ref in play.

The ball did not spill, the Armagh man held on to it like a Cavan man to his wallet. He was winded though and in the absence of a stop he probably would have been blown up for overcarrying.  Hard to see why it was throw up.

That said, he watched this back on GaaGo the black card was undeserved, although from the Cusack stand it looked justified on the day.

Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Derryman forever on July 16, 2023, 10:52:15 PM
Cora Staunton is awful.
How did 4 analysts of that game not mention the , let me say, "mysterious injury" to Padraic Mc Grogan, and the impact that had on the Derry game and that his replacement immediately  coughed up two scores.


Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2023, 11:03:25 PM
No highlights of the Junior final and Cup presentation. One minute would have covered it.  :-\
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2023, 11:07:42 PM
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Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2023, 11:08:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1KismnWcAEhzBU?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on July 16, 2023, 11:15:12 PM
There  won't be a cow milked  in the Bronx for at least a week
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Eire90 on August 22, 2023, 11:59:45 AM
Top GAA pundits using 'The Sunday Game' to promote clothing brands without RTÉ's approval

op GAA pundits have been using The Sunday Game to promote clothing brands with which they have deals, without RTÉ's permission.
Paul Flynn, Tomás Ó Sé, Lee Keegan, Jackie Tyrrell and Seán Cavanagh are among some of the high-profile commentators who have been given suits or outfits by menswear boutiques, which they have then worn during RTÉ's coverage of some of the most watched events on the GAA calendar.

Pictures of sports stars wearing the clothing on The Sunday Game set has then been posted on social media platforms like Instagram, with the relevant stores named.

A spokeswoman for RTÉ clarified that such brand deals had not been approved by the broadcaster.

When asked if RTÉ thought the brand deals were appropriate, the spokeswoman said: "As previously committed to, RTÉ is in a process of a review of policies in relation to commercial activities and outside interests of on-air contractors and employees."

Last week, former Dublin footballer Paul Flynn posted a "big shout out" on his Instagram account to clothing store EJ Menswear and brand Remus Uomo "for kitting me out this season with RTÉ." The post included four different pictures of Flynn on The Sunday Game and RTÉ Sport set.

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A number of The Sunday Game pundits were dressed by Benetti Menswear for the All-Ireland football final between Dublin and Kerry on July 30.

On its Instagram account, Benetti Menswear said that it was "great to see us represented on one of the biggest dates of the GAA calendar".

The brand posted photos of former Tyrone footballer Seán Cavanagh, former Kerry footballer Tomás Ó Sé and former Mayo footballer Lee Keegan on The Sunday Game panel all wearing clothing provided by Benetti.

More than a million people watched the football final itself, while over 170,000 watched The Sunday Game highlights show that evening.

Ó Sé had also posted thanks to Benetti Menswear on his own account, after he wore one of their suits while appearing as a pundit after the Kerry v Tyrone quarter final on July 1.

For his punditry role for a number of fixtures including the All-Ireland hurling final, former Kilkenny star Jackie Tyrrell was provided with a suit by Guy Clothing.

Tyrrell posted a number of photos of himself in the suits in RTÉ studios. Tyrrell is a brand ambassador for Guy Clothing, and is one of the few GAA pundits who clearly marked the posts as being part of a brand ambassador role. While viewership for the hurling final also broke the million mark, The Sunday Game highlights show attracted an audience of 177,000.

Despite the fact that suits have regularly been provided by brands to pundits who wore them across its Sunday Game and live sports coverage, RTÉ has maintained that the brand deals do not qualify as product placements.

Under rules set out by the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, paid product placement has been permitted in certain types of programmes produced and broadcast in Ireland since 2012. Programmes benefiting from paid product placements are required to display the logo "PP" before and during such programmes, and companies that have provided products or services must be named in the end credits. One of the most high-profile examples of product placement on RTÉ was a fully stocked Spar that opened in the fictional Dublin suburb of Carrigstown, where the soap opera Fair City is set.

There is no product placement logo carried on The Sunday Game.

"The BAI Commercial Communications Code defines product placements as when 'a third party provides products and services for inclusion within a television programme for payment or similar consideration'. This is not the case here in that the clothing is not a feature," the RTÉ spokeswoman said.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 22, 2023, 12:39:11 PM
Lots of practices will end. Mr Kelly is only the start
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2023, 10:23:03 AM
The Sunday Game is like a wasp at this time of the year.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 06:24:46 PM
QuoteNo harm but both Cavanagh and Paul Flynn gave me a migraine watching them last night, football coverage badly needs some analysts who have a bit of independent thought and a bit of craic about them, not a pair of tight jeans no socks wearing robots, Flynn even got facts wrong last night saying Kildare were in Division 1 last year, which they were not, and that Cork got to the last 16, they got to the quarter finals and were beaten by Derry, at least get your facts right Paul.

Had to laugh at this comment on Facebook.

Have to say I don't get why cavanagh is there. It's just petty dig after petty dig with absolutely no humour in it whatsoever. Need to find someone else.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on February 05, 2024, 06:32:12 PM
Flynn was so  dull last night. He's the  Jermaine Jenas of  RTE

Cavanagh wasn't great either , but compared to Flynn, is  top quality
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: ClubScene13 on February 05, 2024, 06:50:14 PM
Agreed on Flynn. Supreme footballer and probably a nice fella but its all very vanilla, nothing of interest at all
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Sportacus on February 05, 2024, 07:23:37 PM
Anthony Daly described McManus as the "King Kong" of Antrim hurling and his eyes were nearly popping out of his head. Relaxed, well informed, passionate, articulate.  He made all the other analysts (including Donal Og) look wooden.
Maybe it's an age thing.  Daly is a bit older and doesn't seem out to impress anyone and isn't trying to remember any pre-rehearsed jibes.  He just goes with the flow.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 07:27:04 PM
Donal Og used to be good but now seems just to be out to make a name for himself. Daly very likeable yeah.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: NotedObserver on February 05, 2024, 07:34:35 PM
Sean cavanagh for sure the hardest for me to listen too.

Canavan, jimmy mcg and horan on sky sports was the best line up behind the brolly, pat and colm lol
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on February 05, 2024, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 07:27:04 PMDonal Og used to be good but now seems just to be out to make a name for himself. Daly very likeable yeah.

Yeah, Donal Óg just wants to go on a rant with cliched soundbites.  Good at the start but repetitive now.

Maybe that's the way they go after a few years. Daly seems a nice guy. He comes across as a genuine lad.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2024, 08:32:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 06:24:46 PM
QuoteNo harm but both Cavanagh and Paul Flynn gave me a migraine watching them last night, football coverage badly needs some analysts who have a bit of independent thought and a bit of craic about them, not a pair of tight jeans no socks wearing robots, Flynn even got facts wrong last night saying Kildare were in Division 1 last year, which they were not, and that Cork got to the last 16, they got to the quarter finals and were beaten by Derry, at least get your facts right Paul.

Had to laugh at this comment on Facebook.

Have to say I don't get why cavanagh is there. It's just petty dig after petty dig with absolutely no humour in it whatsoever. Need to find someone else.

And Fermanagh won Div3 last year. The chat about Dublin's fitness levels was amazing stuff 😂

2 mins of highlights followed by twice as much time talking shit about it.

Also why do they always prioritise games that have already been on tv earlier that day?
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 09:01:43 PM
Yeah for the life of me I can't understand why the games that were shown get more air time.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on February 05, 2024, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 07:27:04 PMDonal Og used to be good but now seems just to be out to make a name for himself. Daly very likeable yeah.

I'm not a Hurling man , but I liked listening to Donal Og  in the past , but he has turned into Brolly  in recent years
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: Kidder81 on February 05, 2024, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 05, 2024, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 07:27:04 PMDonal Og used to be good but now seems just to be out to make a name for himself. Daly very likeable yeah.

I'm not a Hurling man , but I liked listening to Donal Og  in the past , but he has turned into Brolly  in recent years

He's nowhere near as bad as Brolly. I haven't heard him making the spiteful personal attacks, unlike Brolly. Who is turning slowly but surely into Ewan MacKenna
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: AustinPowers on February 05, 2024, 10:23:05 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 05, 2024, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 05, 2024, 09:29:30 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 07:27:04 PMDonal Og used to be good but now seems just to be out to make a name for himself. Daly very likeable yeah.

I'm not a Hurling man , but I liked listening to Donal Og  in the past , but he has turned into Brolly  in recent years

He's nowhere near as bad as Brolly. I haven't heard him making the spiteful personal attacks, unlike Brolly. Who is turning slowly but surely into Ewan MacKenna

Well no , not the  personal attacks , but going off on   a  tangent , eg. His plans for the c'ship,  new Rules ideas etc. Like Brolly used to do
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: square_ball on February 05, 2024, 10:44:58 PM
Donal Og would still be whinging even if RTE showed Munster hurling and Munster hurling only 24/7.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: marty34 on February 05, 2024, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 05, 2024, 09:01:43 PMYeah for the life of me I can't understand why the games that were shown get more air time.

Probably easier for the editing etc. They have more time to prepare them games.
Title: Re: The Sunday Game
Post by: tbrick18 on February 06, 2024, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on February 05, 2024, 07:34:35 PMSean cavanagh for sure the hardest for me to listen too.

Canavan, jimmy mcg and horan on sky sports was the best line up behind the brolly, pat and colm lol

Cavanagh is just soundbites and cliche's. No original thoughts or analysis and the stuttering is off putting.
I think Flynn is good in terms of analysis, its the monotone voice that's hard to listen to.

Lets face it, RTE is now what they were trying to be before they got rid of Brolly followed by Spillane and O'Rourke. But it's so scripted and boring and non-controversial. Personally, I'd rather hear the unscripted personal and controversial opinions and natural personalities of the analysts. That's what's entertaining and what causes you to think and that's why BBC has surpassed RTE in terms of championship at least.
Cantwell is just awful in my view too. Compare her to BBC's Niblock. Night and day.