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Technically when the ref blows his whistle for a wide or score I don't think he has to blow his whistle again, well I generally don't other than a reminder to hurry up, if the keeper places the ball or addresses the ball, should there be shirt pulling/dragging you can bring the ball out to that position. F the ball is over the fence or keeper is collecting the ball, the ref could yellow card someone if it's a yellow card, but not bringing a free to that point.

Common sense would be to chat to them and let them know you'll bring ball forward

Thanks MR

Question for the refs here, Maybe MR might put me straight?

BEFORE a kick out is taken, can a foul be given for a jersey pull at midfield?

I was always under the impression that the ball had to be in play before a free can be given. But in a game I was attending at the weekend, the ref blew for a foul at midfield BEFORE the goalkeeper kicked the ball out. I thought this was wrong, but I've had look through the rule book since and I can't see anything definite either way. Having read it over the weekend, it appears that the ball is technically 'in play' from when the referee blew his whistle for the kick out to be taken (i.e. after his whistle, but BEFORE the ball is kicked out IS considered to be in play).

What do you think?

I thought the Tailteann final should have been played  on the Sunday. Playing it on a  Saturday was  a bit demeaning, especially as  the  curtain raiser on  the Sunday is the All Ireland  junior football final  (Kilkenny v New York , if you're interested)

It's played before the semi final ffs!

Is it demeaning for Dublin to play their game on the Saturday?

I know that.  But playing it on a Sunday  gives more down  and Meath fans the opportunity to attend .  Or watch on tv.  Not everyone are able to  attend on Saturday afternoons  .  It just seemed  that the JFC was more important than  the Tailteann final as it  was on the Sunday. And how many Kilkenny  and New York fans would have   been  inconvenienced  by that final being on the Saturday?  Not too many

It might have inconvenienced some of the players though, when you consider the semifinal was on friday night!!

Didn't realise  that.  That was asking  a lot of players  to play 2 games  in that short a timeframe

It's been done that way for the last few years.  That's why the junior final had to be on sunday, it couldn't be saturday after playing the semifinal on friday.

I think it's done over one weekend to allow NY & London travel over once for both games instead of having to travel twice.  Whether that should be the way it's done or not I'm not sure, but that's why it is done!

I thought the Tailteann final should have been played  on the Sunday. Playing it on a  Saturday was  a bit demeaning, especially as  the  curtain raiser on  the Sunday is the All Ireland  junior football final  (Kilkenny v New York , if you're interested)

It's played before the semi final ffs!

Is it demeaning for Dublin to play their game on the Saturday?

I know that.  But playing it on a Sunday  gives more down  and Meath fans the opportunity to attend .  Or watch on tv.  Not everyone are able to  attend on Saturday afternoons  .  It just seemed  that the JFC was more important than  the Tailteann final as it  was on the Sunday. And how many Kilkenny  and New York fans would have   been  inconvenienced  by that final being on the Saturday?  Not too many

It might have inconvenienced some of the players though, when you consider the semifinal was on friday night!!

Marty Morrissey interviewed Colm O'Rourke about the match. He said something about the inspiration of getting into the Sam Maguire. But Meath are D2 and  only ended up in the TC because of Clare and Sligo. They are optional members of the TC club. Down are still D3.

what's an optional member of the TC? Could Meath have opted out and Down not?

Meath are D2. They can win a few league matches and play SM next year.  If they can't be arsed they can play TC. That's optional.

Are you trying to suggest that Meath 'opted' in to the TC this year?

Derryman, of course he is right.

Why is a stupid rule?

Think about it if the rule stated that the ball must travel 13m before being touched by anyone else.
Goalie kicks the ball, it travels 10metres. The goalie sits on his arse for 20minutes and says no-one can touch the ball until it travels 13metres.
Perfect way to protect a lead! 😃

If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.

Is the semi final draw made?

I have seen Derry being penalised this year  because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.

if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.

It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.

[The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.]

The referee kept Monaghan in that game. Some shockers

Jesus wept. The paranoia in derry transfers from the seniors to the minors i see. Is this the same ref that disallowed what looked like a perfect Monaghan goal early in the 2nd half?
Maybe if there's a ref among so we could clear that up. The forward was clearly outside the line when the keeper kicked the kickout. The forward gained possession inside the line so the ball didn't travel the full 13m. What's the rule here, does the ball need to travel 13m before a player from either team can touch it?
https://twitter.com/GAAKeeperCoach/status/1662881020515962881

The ball has to travel over the D line before it csn be touched.
Had a derry plsyer infringed it would hsve bern a ball up.
But since it was a monaghan player who committed the error , derry were given a free out. Seems fair to me.
I dont buy into the ref punishing Derry. But am of the opinion Derry were far to soft in the tackle looking for frees and feigning injury.
But they were the better team and really didnt know when to close the game out.
Why the goalie didn't just get the ball as far away from goal in his last kiickout is beyond me. Poor direction from the sideline i imagine.

this is not correct.

The forward MUST start outside the D when the ball is kicked, BUT is allowed to go into the D to collect the ball. It does not have to travel 13 metres before a forward touches the ball.

Star of the week means one kid goes home delighted,
But EVERY OTHER child goes home disappointed.

Not a good idea IMO.

Those men up front spend a lot of time shoring up the defence.
As a result we only got 10 scores v Mayowestros and Galway.
We'll need more than that to win unless we end up with 5-5.

5-5 might not even be enough for us if Dublin have their shooting boots on!!!!!!

I expect us to approach this game in a similar way to kildare played Dublin. But I think we are about 2 points better than Kildare, so therefore we'll draw on Sunday! That's how it works right? 

Seriously folks,  the posts are  getting ridiculous

Trial  by Facebook. It's madness

  So  if I wanTed to  upset say, Kerry's  preparations for upcoming championship matches ,  maybe I could put up a Facebook  post saying  I was down in  Killarney and I seen  X Kerry player  smashing a shop window,  punching a taxi driver , or   Biting the head  off a chicken , etc ....would that be grounds for jack o Connor or the  Kerry board to say to player x, sit this one out lad. Someone on Facebook said  they seen you doing  x y or z. Better we drop you  until  there's an investigation?  Get a grip , of course they wouldn't

I don't know RG or his  wife/ex wife . , nor their past/present situation.  Nor  do most of you I'd imagine.  Get a  grip and talk  about the football  and leave  this to the appropriate  authorities

You are right, they wouldn't - unless you were say, previously married to david clifford and clifford subsequently released an unconvincing statement! Then they might!

The foundations of the GAA is based on volunteerism and the clubs. Those members should always be sorted first. If then tickets are left over for non members then great but if not then it is tough unfortunately.
At least it isn't on GAAGO.

I agree with the principle, but it doesn't account for volunteers/member who no longer live in their home county.

Agreed (I'm in a similar position - but not from Derry/Armagh).
But doesn't the season ticket solve this problem?

The GAA trying to convince people that the idea of 3 qualifying from groups was to avoid dead rubbers when in reality it's for financial reasons especially with the 4 preliminary 1/4s.
I don't see how dead rubbers will definitely be avoided.

In Kerry's group, if the winner of Kerry-Mayo beats the winner of Louth-Cork in the 2nd game, with the loser of Louth-Cork also losing their 2nd game, then won't the final game between the team with 2 wins v the team with 2 losses be a dead rubber?
And the other game will essentially be a dead rubber, 2nd and 3rd will be decided, just which order.

In your scenario, going into the last match the table could be:
Mayo -4
Kerry -2
Louth - 2
Cork -0
Last match is Kerry V louth and Mayo V cork

In that scenario, if cork and louth won their last matches, Louth could get top, Mayo second and Cork could get third with kerry finishing bottom.

That's unlikely, but they aren't dead rubbers.

Also, there is a benefit to fiishing 2nd over 3rd as you will (in theory) get an easier preliminary quarter final.

In that scenario Mayo v Cork is a dead rubber. Mayo have secured top on head to head results v Kerry & Louth. Cork are bottom due to head to head results v Kerry & Louth.
Kerry and Louth are already thro' to the preliminary 1/4s, just deciding who's 2nd and who's 3rd, so essentially a dead rubber,in fact in some cases finishing 3rd may be preferred.

Apologies

You are correct in that scenario.

The GAA trying to convince people that the idea of 3 qualifying from groups was to avoid dead rubbers when in reality it's for financial reasons especially with the 4 preliminary 1/4s.
I don't see how dead rubbers will definitely be avoided.

In Kerry's group, if the winner of Kerry-Mayo beats the winner of Louth-Cork in the 2nd game, with the loser of Louth-Cork also losing their 2nd game, then won't the final game between the team with 2 wins v the team with 2 losses be a dead rubber?
And the other game will essentially be a dead rubber, 2nd and 3rd will be decided, just which order.

In your scenario, going into the last match the table could be:
Mayo -4
Kerry -2
Louth - 2
Cork -0
Last match is Kerry V louth and Mayo V cork

In that scenario, if cork and louth won their last matches, Louth could get top, Mayo second and Cork could get third with kerry finishing bottom.

That's unlikely, but they aren't dead rubbers.

Also, there is a benefit to fiishing 2nd over 3rd as you will (in theory) get an easier preliminary quarter final.