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Title: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on April 04, 2018, 12:49:57 PM

Qualifiers format

Twenty eight of the twenty nine teams beaten in the provincial championships enter the All-Ireland qualifiers, which are knockout. Sixteen of the seventeen teams (New York do not enter the qualifiers) eliminated before their provincial semi-finals play eight matches in round 1,
with the winners of these games playing the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists in round 2.
The eight winning teams from round 2 play-off against each other in round 3,
with the four winning teams facing the four beaten provincial finalists in round 4 to complete the double-elimination format.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 04, 2018, 12:51:37 PM

With many of the top teams out in the first round going in to the qualifiers definitely a minefield.
Take the losers of galway/mayo.tyrone/Monahan. donegal/cavan nothing to stop them being drawn against each other.It really shows the significance of these first round games.



Qualifiers format

Twenty eight of the twenty nine teams beaten in the provincial championships enter the All-Ireland qualifiers, which are knockout. Sixteen of the seventeen teams (New York do not enter the qualifiers) eliminated before their provincial semi-finals play eight matches in round 1,
with the winners of these games playing the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists in round 2.
The eight winning teams from round 2 play-off against each other in round 3,
with the four winning teams facing the four beaten provincial finalists in round 4 to complete the double-elimination format.

Nice that they assume New York will lose :) If they won, I'd assume all 17 losers would be in...
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 04, 2018, 12:55:29 PM

With many of the top teams out in the first round going in to the qualifiers definitely a minefield.
Take the losers of galway/mayo.tyrone/Monahan. donegal/cavan nothing to stop them being drawn against each other.It really shows the significance of these first round games.



Qualifiers format

Twenty eight of the twenty nine teams beaten in the provincial championships enter the All-Ireland qualifiers, which are knockout. Sixteen of the seventeen teams (New York do not enter the qualifiers) eliminated before their provincial semi-finals play eight matches in round 1,
with the winners of these games playing the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists in round 2.
The eight winning teams from round 2 play-off against each other in round 3,
with the four winning teams facing the four beaten provincial finalists in round 4 to complete the double-elimination format.

Nice that they assume New York will lose :) If they won, I'd assume all 17 losers would be in...
They're playing Leitrim this year so it's quite the assumption, if NY were clearly eyeing up our scalp last year you'd imagine they fancy their chances of taking down Leitrim even more.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on April 04, 2018, 12:56:02 PM
Didn't new York come close a few years ago? Maybe 2014? Would be some craic if they won.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 04, 2018, 12:59:55 PM
Didn't new York come close a few years ago? Maybe 2014? Would be some craic if they won.
They lost to Roscommon by a point in 2016, before that Leitrim went to extra-time in 2003. Gave Galway a scare around 2010 as well, I think most other visits were relatively comfortable wins in the end.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on April 04, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
Taken this from Wikipedia so not sure how reliable but I don't like it, if Donegal are in round 1 they could possibly end up playing away in waterford, Wexford and say Carlow 3 qualifiers in a row, how's that fair to their supporters and players. Equally I know the idea behind might seem good to give weaker teams a better chance but would Louth being away to Armagh really be giving Armagh a better chance than they need. As I said this is taken from Wikipedia which is usually decent for info but I don't know how reliable it is


The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two.[12] All matches are knockout.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 04, 2018, 01:21:20 PM
New York can't travel I'm afraid a lot of players may not get back in to the states!

I know that, but the assumption is they will lose. What happens if New York wins?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 04, 2018, 01:28:52 PM
New York can't travel I'm afraid a lot of players may not get back in to the states!

I know that, but the assumption is they will lose. What happens if New York wins?
It's a question Connacht Council hope they never have to find the answer to.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on April 04, 2018, 03:12:43 PM
If NY win there will be chaos. The qualifiers won't be a major issue - there will have to be a preliminary tie which is inconvenient but probably manageable. The Connacht championship would be a mess. Hard to see NY travelling and no way will their next opponents want to go to NY. I reckon the latter is more likely in that event.

Would be very interesting if it ever happens.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 04, 2018, 03:41:49 PM
That being said (and I think you're right Seanie), what on earth are New York in the competition for? If they won't/can't take part in the qualifiers, and won't be able to fulfill further fixtures regardless of how well they get on, why do they enter? It'd be like entering Wimbledon, serving the first game, and then walking out every year.

If New York want to stay involved, then maybe there should just be a trip to New York in May for the Division 4 winners to play a game.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: rosnarun on April 04, 2018, 03:56:19 PM
That being said (and I think you're right Seanie), what on earth are New York in the competition for? If they won't/can't take part in the qualifiers, and won't be able to fulfill further fixtures regardless of how well they get on, why do they enter? It'd be like entering Wimbledon, serving the first game, and then walking out every year.

If New York want to stay involved, then maybe there should just be a trip to New York in May for the Division 4 winners to play a game.
probably to ensure that the millions Kerry get every year keeps flowing
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 04, 2018, 03:59:20 PM
That being said (and I think you're right Seanie), what on earth are New York in the competition for? If they won't/can't take part in the qualifiers, and won't be able to fulfill further fixtures regardless of how well they get on, why do they enter? It'd be like entering Wimbledon, serving the first game, and then walking out every year.

If New York want to stay involved, then maybe there should just be a trip to New York in May for the Division 4 winners to play a game.
probably to ensure that the millions Kerry get every year keeps flowing

What has New York false starting every year got to do with Kerry? Kerry men in New York will always be pumped for money, just like they are in Boston.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 04, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on April 04, 2018, 04:17:38 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 04, 2018, 04:20:15 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Roscommon where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

I fixed that for you
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 04, 2018, 04:30:23 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
Thats the luck of the draw. Mayo 2012 only had to beat Leitrim at home to reach the final and then played Sligo in the final. Roscommon if they reach the final and a if needs to be used as they only beat New York by 1 point in their last meeting will likely play Mayo in the Connacht final a top 3 side and the game would be played in MacHale Park.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 04, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
AZ the Connacht Council were thinking of all our exiles most of whom traditionally came from Connacht when they extended an invitation to NY to play in Connacht.
Fair play to them putting themselves to the inconvenience of having to spend a week in NY every year.

Total nonsense and should be ended forthwith.
Mind you I heard that they will travel if they win as all their squad is legally in the US.
Also heard 2 Rossies playing for NY this year.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on April 04, 2018, 04:38:00 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

You’re not going very far when you’re being lit up for 28 points so I wouldn’t get too worried about your plight if I were you.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on April 04, 2018, 07:33:20 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

You’re not going very far when you’re being lit up for 28 points so I wouldn’t get too worried about your plight if I were you.
No idea what gibberish you are talking but can you confirm if my original statement was fact or not.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 04, 2018, 09:55:52 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

You’re not going very far when you’re being lit up for 28 points so I wouldn’t get too worried about your plight if I were you.
No idea what gibberish you are talking but can you confirm if my original statement was fact or not.
Possibly he's on about conceding 4-16 the last day.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: westbound on April 05, 2018, 11:43:01 AM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

You’re not going very far when you’re being lit up for 28 points so I wouldn’t get too worried about your plight if I were you.

Conceding 28 points is hardly a stick to beat someone when we conceded 24 points in the same game!  ::)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: weareros on April 05, 2018, 01:49:35 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

The Ros team of the 70s had  to beat both Galway and Mayo every year they won their 4 in a row, so does not always come easy. Anyway, the current Mayo and Galway team would beat any team in Ulster in championship football and Cavan would not beat any of the top 3 in Connacht, so be thankful you are in Ulster where at least you have a chance of some silverware. And would love to see ye do it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on April 09, 2018, 10:38:25 AM
Okay this is the way of it this year


Leitrim beat New York by 2 points

London Shock Sligo to get to the Connacht Semi Final

Laois beat Wexford in Wexford park by a small margin

Carlow beat Louth in Portlaoise

with Offaly beating Wicklow at the same venue the next day to set up a clash with the Dubs

Galway get the better of Mayo in connacht

Cavan Shock Donegal in Ballyboffey on the same day

Clare hammer limerick in Ennis

Tipp do the same to Waterford in Thurles in front of 4 men and a dog

Fermanagh beat Armagh in a free kick competition after 2 periods of extra time can't seperate them

Monaghan beat Tyrone in a thriller in Omagh with 3 sent off.


Back to Leinster the following week

Laois beat Westmeath in Portlaoise after extra time

Kildare beat a plucky Carlow in Portlaoise the same day

Dublin steam role offaly in Tullamore

Longford shock Meath in Pearse park


Down hammer Antrim in ulster

And Cavan beat Derry to reach the ulster Semi final.

Roscommon put Leitrim to the sword with 15 points to spare to reach the final again.


Qualifier Draws

Limerick v Donegal  -Donegal come away with an easy win
Waterford host Carlow and the away team do enough to win
Wexford loose to a Tyrone team who mean business
Westmeath go to armagh and get a victory
Offaly loose after a great battle against Meath in Tullamore
Sligo beat Antrim in casement
Derry come up short against Mayo again after a titanic battle in celtic park
Wicklow come up short against the wee county in Louth


Back in Ulster
Monaghan beat Fermanagh with only a point to spare
Galway take care of Sligo in connacht
Kerry get the better of Clare in Munster
Tipp beat Cork in a thriller in thurles



The following weekend
Cavan put on a masterclass to beat Down and reach the ulster final
Kildare put Laois to the sword in corker by 9 points
The Dubs take care on Longford in a canter by 18 points

The second round qualifier draw is made

Laois get Sligo in Portlaoise and beat the side from the west
Down get the better of carlow in Newry
Fermanagh beat Meath in Enniskillen
Clare loose at home to Donegal
Leitrim come up just short against Louth in Carrick on shannon
Westmeath beat Cork in mullingar after extra time
Mayo over come Longford in pearse park
London are easily beaten by Tyrone in ruislip

The 3rd round draw is made

Laois v Down in parnell Park see's the O'moores go through
Fermanagh loose out to Tyrone in clones
Donegal beat Mayo in a thriller
Westmeath over come Louth in Tullamore


The provincial finals go like this

Roscommon beat Galway in a superb final after extra time

Monaghan have 2 points to spare in Cavan in Clones

Kildare put it up to the Dubs but loose out by a single point in an epic game at croker

Kerry beat Tipp with five to spare in Munster



The Draw for the 4th round of qualifers is made

Galway take care of Laois
Cavan loose out to Tyrone in a physical game
Kildare and westmeath draw but the Lillys come out on top after extra time
Donegal get the better of Tipperary to book there place in the super eights


The SUPER 8 Draw
Kerry
Roscommon
Kildare
Tyrone


Dublin
Monaghan
Galway
Donegal



Kerry Beat the rossies
Tyrone scrape over Kildare

Dublin beat Monaghan
Galway and donegal draw


Kerry beat Kildare to book their spot in the semi
Roscommon beat tyrone

Monaghan and galway draw
Dublin beat Donegal

Kerry beat Tyrone
Roscommon beat Kildare

Monaghan beat Donegal
Dublin draw with Galway

Kerry 6
Roscommon 4
Tyrone 2
Kildare 0


Dublin 5
Galway 3
Monaghan 3
Donegal 1

Galway go through on better score difference than monaghan


Galway beat Kerry in a thriller of a Semi in corker
Dublin beat roscommon by 6 in a very high scoring game in croker.


Dublin retain Sam by beating Galway by 5 points on the 2nd of september





There ya go folkes ....don't even bother watching it!!!:-)


Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 09, 2018, 10:42:53 AM
Too much time on your hands.
Don't Provincial Finals go to replays?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on April 09, 2018, 10:44:35 AM
Too much time on your hands.
Don't Provincial Finals go to replays?

It was a replay the first day :-)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 09, 2018, 10:57:18 AM
So it's off to the wind tunnel 24th June :(
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 09, 2018, 12:14:53 PM
Sligo beat Antrim in casement
Crikey they must have got that redevelopment done in record time   ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on April 09, 2018, 01:04:14 PM
I like your fantasy about Cavan, despite us losing the Ulster final. I think it is more likely we will get well beaten by Donegal 1st day out.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on April 09, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

The Ros team of the 70s had  to beat both Galway and Mayo every year they won their 4 in a row, so does not always come easy. Anyway, the current Mayo and Galway team would beat any team in Ulster in championship football and Cavan would not beat any of the top 3 in Connacht, so be thankful you are in Ulster where at least you have a chance of some silverware. And would love to see ye do it.

My point was it never comes as easy in Ulster as beating a team of the calibre of Leitrim gets you into a final. I know sometimes it comes hard in Connacht for sure but it just outlines t he unfairness of the championship. Cavan will need to be at their peak to play preliminary round in Ulster. Roscommon could be in 2nd gear and beat Leitrim/New York and then can sit and watch Mayo/Galway kick lumps out of eachother. Used to be like that in Munster too but obviously standard of Clare and Tipp is much better these days.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 09, 2018, 01:46:11 PM
Why aren't ye agitating to either abolish the Ulster Championship or else disconnect the Provincials from the All Irelands???
Or would that leave ye with no spuds on th'oul showlders ?  ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orchard park on April 09, 2018, 01:52:38 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

The Ros team of the 70s had  to beat both Galway and Mayo every year they won their 4 in a row, so does not always come easy. Anyway, the current Mayo and Galway team would beat any team in Ulster in championship football and Cavan would not beat any of the top 3 in Connacht, so be thankful you are in Ulster where at least you have a chance of some silverware. And would love to see ye do it.

My point was it never comes as easy in Ulster as beating a team of the calibre of Leitrim gets you into a final. I know sometimes it comes hard in Connacht for sure but it just outlines t he unfairness of the championship. Cavan will need to be at their peak to play preliminary round in Ulster. Roscommon could be in 2nd gear and beat Leitrim/New York and then can sit and watch Mayo/Galway kick lumps out of eachother. Used to be like that in Munster too but obviously standard of Clare and Tipp is much better these days.

going back to 1992 it makes the achievement of Leitrim all the greater, beating Roscommon, mayo and Galway
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: full moon on April 09, 2018, 02:28:03 PM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

The Ros team of the 70s had  to beat both Galway and Mayo every year they won their 4 in a row, so does not always come easy. Anyway, the current Mayo and Galway team would beat any team in Ulster in championship football and Cavan would not beat any of the top 3 in Connacht, so be thankful you are in Ulster where at least you have a chance of some silverware. And would love to see ye do it.

My point was it never comes as easy in Ulster as beating a team of the calibre of Leitrim gets you into a final. I know sometimes it comes hard in Connacht for sure but it just outlines t he unfairness of the championship. Cavan will need to be at their peak to play preliminary round in Ulster. Roscommon could be in 2nd gear and beat Leitrim/New York and then can sit and watch Mayo/Galway kick lumps out of eachother. Used to be like that in Munster too but obviously standard of Clare and Tipp is much better these days.

going back to 1992 it makes the achievement of Leitrim all the greater, beating Roscommon, mayo and Galway

You'll never see that again, there may not even be GAA teams fielded at all in Leitrim in a few years unless Croke Park HQ gets their finger out and stop neglecting them. While some seem to want New York upset the odds, I think it would finally show the neglect shown to Leitrim and they will think whats the point and lose another ton of players. New York are not a serious outfit given they don't fully take part, and theres not much grassroots about paying lads to come over and the likes of Jamie Clarke in the forward line.

Be better off giving their place to another team from British GAA like Lancashire or Warwickshire in hurling who compete in the League every week.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on April 09, 2018, 06:30:37 PM
Why aren't ye agitating to either abolish the Ulster Championship or else disconnect the Provincials from the All Irelands???
Or would that leave ye with no spuds on th'oul showlders ?  ;)

Are you Sphillis in disguise :o
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 10, 2018, 07:04:03 PM
Wrong Unlaoised. Longford will beat Mayo in Pearse Park. It's an unlucky ground for Mayo teams down the years.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on April 11, 2018, 09:01:19 AM
Well the first round losers have plenty of time to lick their wounds before the first qualifier match and then it's make or break.

Dates for qualifier rounds:

9th june (1st round)

23rd June (2nd round)

30 June  (3rd round)

7th July (4th round)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on April 16, 2018, 06:15:22 AM
9th June
The counties who will be in Round 1 of the football qualifiers are: Galway or Mayo; Sligo or London; Tyrone or Monaghan; Down or Antrim; Armagh or Fermanagh; Meath or Longford; Limerick or Clare; Tipperary or Waterford; two from Donegal, Cavan, Derry; two from Wexford, Laois, Westmeath; two from Offaly, Wicklow, Dublin; two from Louth, Carlow, Kildare.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: westbound on April 16, 2018, 10:46:38 AM
9th June
The counties who will be in Round 1 of the football qualifiers are: Galway or Mayo; Sligo or London; Tyrone or Monaghan; Down or Antrim; Armagh or Fermanagh; Meath or Longford; Limerick or Clare; Tipperary or Waterford; two from Donegal, Cavan, Derry; two from Wexford, Laois, Westmeath; two from Offaly, Wicklow, Dublin; two from Louth, Carlow, Kildare.

I think we'd have a fairly good guess as to which two from these 3 will be in it!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 17, 2018, 10:57:51 AM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
I see McGleenan commenting on Ulster's new 2 year exemption from the Preliminary Round.
Then turns it into a call to revamp the entire Championship  bitching about Ros having one game to reach a Final and ye lot having to play 3.
As usual from the bitchers he offers no alternative solution.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orchard park on April 17, 2018, 11:40:51 AM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
I see McGleenan commenting on Ulster's new 2 year exemption from the Preliminary Round.
Then turns it into a call to revamp the entire Championship  bitching about Ros having one game to reach a Final and ye lot having to play 3.
As usual from the bitchers he offers no alternative solution.

you know where he is from, so did you expect anything but the 2 large chips on shoulders
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 18, 2018, 12:16:03 PM
It doesn't look like their will much coverage of the qualifiers on TV this summer, it was mentioned on Parkinson's podcast the other day that they can't show any more matches than they did last year; I'd imagine they'll show the majority of the super 8's games so somethings got to give elsewhere and thats not taking into account the extra games in the Leinster & Munster Hurling championship.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 18, 2018, 12:22:41 PM
2 Finals
4 Semi Finals
14 Qtr Finals
6 Provincial Finals

19 other games which will likely include 15 Provincials at least.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 18, 2018, 11:02:35 PM
Will the Ulster championship matches be covered on BBCNI? Will these (if they are) impact on the overall number does anybody know?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on April 19, 2018, 12:48:36 AM
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
I see McGleenan commenting on Ulster's new 2 year exemption from the Preliminary Round.
Then turns it into a call to revamp the entire Championship  bitching about Ros having one game to reach a Final and ye lot having to play 3.
As usual from the bitchers he offers no alternative solution.

you know where he is from, so did you expect anything but the 2 large chips on shoulders

He wasn’t so quick to action when his best player was hobbling around the field and 30,000 people knew he was done. If Cavan lose by a score against Donegal it will because of his own failings as a manager as McVeety would probably have been the best player on the field barring Paddy McBrearty. I think he’s a bluffer to be totally frank.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on April 21, 2018, 07:42:12 AM
Piece from Fridays Irish Times

Qualifier guarantee for lucky trio of

Cork, Kerry, and Roscommon are the only teams guaranteed to avoid the first round of this year’s All-Ireland senior football championship qualifiers.


The seeded nature of the Munster SFC, which rewards the previous year’s finalists with byes to the semi-finals, and Roscommon’s fortune in being drawn in a Connacht semi-final for the second year in a row, means the trio will begin the All-Ireland competition at the earliest on Saturday, June 23, in the second qualifier round, which takes place on the same day as the Munster SFC final.

The disparity of the provincial championships feeding into the All-Ireland SFC is highlighted by the advantageous circumstances provided to Cork and Kerry, compared to Ulster SFC preliminary round teams, Cavan and Donegal, who would have to win one of two games to reach the second round of the backdoor.

To make the Super 8, either team will have to win four consecutive games in their provincial championship (ie, win the Anglo-Celt Cup), through the qualifier system, or win four between the Ulster SFC and the qualifiers. In contrast, if Cork, Kerry, and Roscommon win their respective semi-finals, they need only claim another victory from their following two outings to make the All-Ireland quarter-final stages.

After four seasons of a split backdoor system, this year sees a return to the open qualifier draw, meaning any of the 16 teams that failed to reach their provincial semi-finals — the four quarter-finalists in Leinster, Connacht, and Ulster, the three in Connacht, and the Ulster preliminary round losers — can be pitted against one another.

Most, if not all, of the qualifiers are expected to take place on Saturdays, with the master fixtures calendar scheduling them for June 9, 23, 30, and with the final knockout round taking place on July 7 or 8.

That sequencing means a team hoping to reach a Super 8 All-Ireland quarter-final group from the second-round stage must win three games in as many weekends, before their Super 8 outings on July 14/15 and July 21/22,
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 14, 2018, 12:24:02 PM
Everyone up to the beaten provincial semi finalists will be in the Qualifiers Round 1, so there'll be 16 in total in the next couple of weeks.

Offaly,
London,
Louth,
Mayo,
Cavan,
Wexford,
Westmeath/Laois,
Kildare/Carlow,
Dublin/Wicklow,
Meath/Longford,
Waterford/Tipperary,
Clare/Limerick,
Fermanagh/Armagh,
Tyrone/Monaghan,
Down/Antrim,
Derry/Donegal.


A lot of slots open yet!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 14, 2018, 04:30:41 PM
Offaly - Division 3
London - Division 4
Louth - Division 2 (relegated)
Mayo  - Division 1
Cavan  - Division 2 (promoted)
Wexford  - Division 3 (relegated)
Westmeath/Laois - Division 3/Division 4 (promoted)
Kildare/Carlow - Division 1 (relegated) /Division 4 (promoted)
Dublin/Wicklow - Division 1/Division 4 
Meath/Longford - Division 2/Division 3
Waterford/Tipperary - Division 4/Division 2
Clare/Limerick  - Division 2/Division 4 
Fermanagh/Armagh  - Division 3(promoted)/Division 3(promoted)
Tyrone/Monaghan  - Division 1/Division 1 
Down/Antrim  - Division 2(relegated)/Division 4 
Derry/Donegal  - Division 3(relegated)/Division 1(relegated)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 19, 2018, 09:14:20 PM
Offaly - Division 3
London - Division 4
Louth - Division 2 (relegated)
Mayo  - Division 1
Cavan  - Division 2 (promoted)
Wexford  - Division 3 (relegated)
Waterford - Division 4
Limerick  - Division 4 
Armagh  - Division 3 (promoted)

Tyrone/Monaghan  - Division 1 / Division 1 
Westmeath/Laois - Division 3 / Division 4 (promoted)
Kildare/Carlow - Division 1 (relegated) / Division 4 (promoted)
Dublin/Wicklow - Division 1 / Division 4 
Meath/Longford - Division 2 / Division 3
Down/Antrim  - Division 2 (relegated) / Division 4 
Derry/Donegal  - Division 3 (relegated) / Division 1 (relegated)

Division 1 - Mayo
Division 2 - Louth, Cavan
Division 3 - Offaly, Wexford, Armagh
Division 4 - London, Waterford, Limerick
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 19, 2018, 10:22:38 PM
At least this time tomorrow there'll be another Division 1 team with us.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on May 20, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
Still a few slots to be filled,Tyrone the big addition after the weekend games.

Offaly, 
London, 
Louth,
Mayo,
Cavan,
Wexford,
Waterford
Limerick,
Armagh
Tyrone
Down/Antrim,
Derry/Donegal.
Kildare/Carlow,
Dublin/Wicklow,
Meath/Longford,
Westmeath/Laois,
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on May 20, 2018, 09:57:30 PM
*pulls up a chair* what's the craic, lads?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on May 20, 2018, 10:01:04 PM
In the second round, the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists play the eight winning teams from round 1 of the qualifiers. The round 2 draw is unrestricted − if two teams have played each other in a provincial match they can be drawn to meet again. The eight winners of these matches play each other in round 3.

Taken from wikipedia, does this mean the winners of round 1 will play beaten semi finalists or would it be an open draw from all the teams in round 2. If its not an open draw rounds 1 and 3 are the only rounds the likes of mayo and tyrone can meet
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 10:02:41 PM
In the second round, the eight beaten provincial semi-finalists play the eight winning teams from round 1 of the qualifiers. The round 2 draw is unrestricted − if two teams have played each other in a provincial match they can be drawn to meet again. The eight winners of these matches play each other in round 3.

Taken from wikipedia, does this mean the winners of round 1 will play beaten semi finalists or would it be an open draw from all the teams in round 2. If its not an open draw rounds 1 and 3 are the only rounds the likes of mayo and tyrone can meet

Winners of round 1 meet losing semi finalists it is.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: DuffleKing on May 21, 2018, 01:09:12 PM

Forgive my laziness if this has been addressed a couple of pages back - is it a completely open draw with any of the 16 teams in the hat able to draw any other?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 21, 2018, 02:04:26 PM

Forgive my laziness if this has been addressed a couple of pages back - is it a completely open draw with any of the 16 teams in the hat able to draw any other?
Yes a open draw for round 1 then the eight winners v the eight provincial semi final losers in round 2. Round 3 is another open draw with eight remaining teams then round 4 the 4 winners play the 4 provincial runners ups.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Taylor on May 21, 2018, 02:06:04 PM
Mayo are the team we would naturally want to avoid.

Armagh and Antrim/Down would be the ones would suit us best so we can get back on track
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: WT4E on May 21, 2018, 03:33:30 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: shark on May 21, 2018, 03:43:25 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

2008 should be a memorable year for a Tyrone man. Ye got past Westmeath by a whisker.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 21, 2018, 03:45:29 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

2008 should be a memorable year for a Tyrone man. Ye got past Westmeath by a whisker.
And Laois put them out in Portlaoise in 2006.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: trileacman on May 21, 2018, 03:46:51 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

Laois 06 dethrone the AI champs too. How long have you been following Tyrone?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

we have played laois twice in the championship.
Hammered them in 2004 (the day beano broke his leg), they beat us in 2006 qualifier
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: WT4E on May 21, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

Laois 06 dethrone the AI champs too. How long have you been following Tyrone?

Since I was young lad but just went pure off the top of me head and sure everyones not as smart as you!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Taylor on May 21, 2018, 04:03:46 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

Laois 06 dethrone the AI champs too. How long have you been following Tyrone?

Since I was young lad but just went pure off the top of me head and sure everyones not no one is as smart as you!

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: trileacman on May 21, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
Just wondering as a Tyrone man - who have we never played in champo of likely opponents in R1 - my head says this but could be wrong:
London
Westmeath
Laois
Carlow
Wicklow
Waterford
Clare

we have played laois twice in the championship.
Hammered them in 2004 (the day beano broke his leg), they beat us in 2006 qualifier

Beano’s leg break was awful, still remember Ricey and him going for that ball. Shite enough match too.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 22, 2018, 03:44:07 AM
Quote
The final six provincial football quarter-finals are being decided over the weekend with the losers of Laois/Westmeath, Carlow/Kildare, Wicklow/Dublin and Longford/Meath in Leinster, in addition to the losers of Derry/Donegal and Down/Antrim in Ulster, joining 10 other teams. They are Mayo, London, Limerick, Waterford, Wexford, Offaly, Louth, Tyrone, Cavan and Armagh.

Unlike recent years there is no A and B section so it's open for all 16 teams to play against each other.

Counties that operated in Division 3 and Division 4 of the league will have home advantage.


If the Division 3 and 4 teams are drawn against each other, the first team out will then have home advantage.

So Armagh could get the likes of Cavan,Mayo or Tyrone at home
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: rrhf on May 22, 2018, 07:16:09 AM
Would love a trip to London
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 09:01:37 AM
Draw next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 22, 2018, 09:54:04 AM
Mayo v Tyrone is nailed on.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 22, 2018, 10:11:45 AM
Is it on RTÉ news channel? So we can see what's coming out?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 22, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
Mayo v Tyrone is nailed on.

Ulster sides normally draw other Ulster side in these draws. Mayo will probably avoid all of the better sides in this draw.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 22, 2018, 04:37:27 PM
Be nice if they got Longford ;D.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: larryin89 on May 22, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
It will be an open and transparent draw . This craic of people thinking it's in anyway fixed is completely false.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: BennyHarp on May 22, 2018, 08:12:47 PM
Mayo v Tyrone is nailed on.

Nothing surer that Armagh v Tyrone in the Athletic Grounds. The balls are already in the cooler ready to be picked out if the bag.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on May 22, 2018, 08:30:21 PM
Mayo v Tyrone is nailed on.

Hope so! Will be a big blow to the coffers of the Super 8 should one of those go out!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Over the Bar on May 22, 2018, 09:09:32 PM
I Derry go out v Donegal they could face London! Fleggory might attend!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 22, 2018, 09:51:53 PM
I Derry go out v Donegal they could face London! Fleggory might attend!
Prep for their Div 4 meeting next season.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on May 24, 2018, 08:49:07 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on May 24, 2018, 08:52:47 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

Plus if a division 3/4 team draw a division 1/2 team then home advantage is given to the team from div 3/4 I think so Armagh are more than a match for and div 3/4 team and hone advantage for against anyone else
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 24, 2018, 10:18:18 PM
Did Armagh only put out a weakened team against Fermanagh or what?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2018, 10:22:10 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

What Armagh team are you talking about? Surely not the one that just got hammered by 14 men in Enniskillen?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: BennyCake on May 24, 2018, 10:35:15 PM
Did Armagh only put out a weakened team against Fermanagh or what?

Shit. Our cunning plan has been worked out.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2018, 10:38:42 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

I.would write them off v Tyrone.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on May 24, 2018, 10:50:48 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

What Armagh team are you talking about? Surely not the one that just got hammered by 14 men in Enniskillen?

It was Armagh with the fourteen,I know they were beaten fairly tamely , very similar to last year and yet  they reached an all Ireland  quarter final.time will tell I suppose.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2018, 11:11:45 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

What Armagh team are you talking about? Surely not the one that just got hammered by 14 men in Enniskillen?

It was Armagh with the fourteen,I know they were beaten fairly tamely , very similar to last year and yet  they reached an all Ireland  quarter final.time will tell I suppose.

My error. There's a least three teams in R1 that would account for them handily enough.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2018, 10:50:46 AM
Well the first round losers have plenty of time to lick their wounds before the first qualifier match and then it's make or break.

Dates for qualifier rounds:

9th june (1st round)
23rd June (2nd round)
30 June  (3rd round)
7th July (4th round)

When will the draw be made?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 25, 2018, 11:09:21 AM
Draw next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1.
Pay attention!😅😁
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on May 25, 2018, 11:26:49 AM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

Sorry, but I just cannot agree with that assessment.

In our wilderness years between 1982 and 1999, Armagh were very inconsistent, but had the ability on their day to give someone a bloody nose - Dublin in the league quarter-final of 1994 and Donegal (then All Ireland Champions) in the Ulster semi-final draw in Breffni Park in 1993. However there was no chance we would win anything as we couldn't string two big performances together, but there was always the hope of one big effort.

There is simply nothing to suggest that Armagh could trouble Mayo or Tyrone - the poverty stricken nature of the Fermanagh defeat, and the reaction to it, can only have undermined self belief and confidence. Everything is pointing to an early exit.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 25, 2018, 01:11:34 PM
Draw next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1.
Pay attention!😅😁

It'll also be on RTE news now channel. I have the popcorn at the ready.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on May 25, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
Armagh will be one of the toughest teams to get for any of the div 1 or 2 sides in the 1st round draw.
When it is last chance saloon a home game is huge.
Jesus if it's Armagh v tyrone would you write armagh off?
even mayo or Cavan wouldn't fancy that trip north, not in the first round anyway.

What Armagh team are you talking about? Surely not the one that just got hammered by 14 men in Enniskillen?

What Armagh team are you talking about? Surely not the 14 man Armagh team who just got beaten in Enniskillen?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: BennyCake on May 25, 2018, 06:14:28 PM
Draw next Monday morning on RTÉ Radio 1.
Pay attention!😅😁

It'll also be on RTE news now channel. I have the popcorn at the ready.

If that's what Mayo folk usually eat for breakfast, no wonder Sam hasn't been won ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: highorlow on May 27, 2018, 05:36:31 PM
More wounded tigers added to the draw.

Hoping now for a trip to Navan as I need a new carpet for the living room in anyways.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 05:44:37 PM
16 teams known now.

Offaly,
London,
Louth,
Mayo,
Cavan,
Wexford,
Westmeath
Kildare
Wicklow,
Meath
Waterford
Limerick,
Armagh,
Tyrone
Antrim
Derry

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 27, 2018, 05:51:14 PM
I'll be shocked if Mayo and Tyrone don't draw a Division four,three team or Louth.

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: larryin89 on May 27, 2018, 06:34:14 PM
Avoid Tyrone and Cavan and we have a great chance of progressing to the next round.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: trileacman on May 27, 2018, 07:22:19 PM
Avoid Tyrone and Cavan and we have a great chance of progressing to the next round.

You’d take Cavan.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 07:39:21 PM
Avoid Tyrone and Cavan and we have a great chance of progressing to the next round.

You’d take Cavan.
Depends on what Cavan team turns up? the one that were so poor defensively in their last two games or the well organized side that beat Mayo in Cavan last year.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 27, 2018, 07:41:32 PM
16 teams known now.

Offaly,
London,
Louth,
Mayo,
Cavan,
Wexford,
Westmeath
Kildare
Wicklow,
Meath
Waterford
Limerick,
Armagh,
Tyrone
Antrim
Derry



From an Armagh perspective if we draw

Louth
Mayo
Cavan
Kildare
Meath
Tyrone

We are guarenteed a home game?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on May 27, 2018, 07:55:10 PM
From an Armagh perspective if we draw

Louth
Mayo
Cavan
Kildare
Meath
Tyrone

We are guarenteed a home game?

I think I would rather play some of the others away than most of those at home!
We'd never beat Tyrone or Mayo, but perhaps a win against a Cavan or Meath at home is possible and might restore pride.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: bennydorano on May 27, 2018, 08:30:45 PM
5 teams there I'd be confident of Armagh beating. Odds against us.

Never heard as much negativity in regards to Armagh. Sad to say but an early exit might usher in some much needed change.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 27, 2018, 11:03:59 PM
5 teams there I'd be confident of Armagh beating. Odds against us.

Never heard as much negativity in regards to Armagh. Sad to say but an early exit might usher in some much needed change.
Has it been much different for the past 10 years?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 27, 2018, 11:12:17 PM
16 teams known now.

These are the Division 3 and Division 4 teams
Offaly      
Wexford   
Westmeath      
Armagh      
Derry      
London      
Wicklow      
Waterford      
Limerick      
Antrim      

If they are drawn against any of the following, the Division 3/4 side will get home advantage

Mayo
Cavan
Kildare
Tyrone
Louth
Meath

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 27, 2018, 11:13:36 PM
Gooch doing the draw according to Sean K on TSG

Be some craic if he pulled Mayo v Tyrone.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 27, 2018, 11:17:57 PM
Gooch doing the draw according to Sean K on TSG

Be some craic if he pulled Mayo v Tyrone.

Who does he loathe the more though, sin é an gcéist! ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2018, 11:20:46 PM
Gooch doing the draw according to Sean K on TSG

Be some craic if he pulled Mayo v Tyrone.

Who does he loathe the more though, sin é an gcéist! ;)

Put it this way, how many of his medals are from finals v Mayo and How many medals are from finals v Tyrone? ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 27, 2018, 11:24:03 PM
Gooch doing the draw according to Sean K on TSG

Be some craic if he pulled Mayo v Tyrone.

Who does he loathe the more though, sin é an gcéist! ;)

Put it this way, how many of his medals are from finals v Mayo and How many medals are from finals v Tyrone? ;)

 ;) Leave the oul hard-bitten reality out of it a chara!  :)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: bennydorano on May 27, 2018, 11:29:44 PM
5 teams there I'd be confident of Armagh beating. Odds against us.

Never heard as much negativity in regards to Armagh. Sad to say but an early exit might usher in some much needed change.
Has it been much different for the past 10 years?
Well we were Ulster Champs in 2008 so yes. If you'd have said last 9 years tho.....
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on May 28, 2018, 08:12:09 AM
What times the draw?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2018, 08:16:38 AM
What times the draw?

8.30. On Morning Ireland
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:40:32 AM
It is just starting
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:43:25 AM
Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:45:00 AM
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:45:51 AM
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 28, 2018, 08:48:18 AM
Westmeath v Armagh
Oh boy.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:48:35 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on May 28, 2018, 08:49:53 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Fixed
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 28, 2018, 08:51:35 AM
Interesting:

My tuppence:

Derry vs Kildare  Kildare
Meath v Tyrone    Tyrone
Louth v London    London
Wicklow v Cavan  Cavan
Offaly v Antrim      Offaly
Mayo v Limerick     Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh  Armagh
Wexford v Waterford   Wexford

Winners play losing provincial semi finalists.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:58:57 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on May 28, 2018, 09:00:20 AM
Interesting:

My tuppence:

Derry vs Kildare  Kildare
Meath v Tyrone    Tyrone
Louth v London    London
Wicklow v Cavan  Cavan
Offaly v Antrim      Offaly
Mayo v Limerick     Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh  Armagh
Wexford v Waterford   Wexford

Winners play losing provincial semi finalists.

Super 8.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on May 28, 2018, 09:01:14 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

Mayo will be away to Limerick.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on May 28, 2018, 09:04:55 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

Mayo will be away to Limerick.

That should put the fear into Mayo.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

Mayo will be away to Limerick.

Better away record than home record lately. Should have enough to beat Limerick to be fair.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 09:05:37 AM
First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4?

That's it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: sid waddell on May 28, 2018, 09:08:52 AM
Tyrone should brush Meath aside. Meath is no longer a serious football county.

Easy start for Mayo - just what they needed.

There doesn't look to be too much for those teams to fear from the teams who will enter the draw in Round 2, with Tipperary, Clare, Down and Fermanagh likely to be the pick of the bunch.



Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 09:10:54 AM
Interesting:

My tuppence:

Derry vs Kildare  Kildare
Meath v Tyrone    Tyrone
Louth v London    London
Wicklow v Cavan  Cavan
Offaly v Antrim      Offaly
Mayo v Limerick     Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh  Armagh
Wexford v Waterford   Wexford

Winners play losing provincial semi finalists.
Longford travel agents reporting huge demand for weekends away the weekend of the round 1 matches.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on May 28, 2018, 09:15:36 AM
What's the TV coverage likely to be for this - just one live?

Derry v Kildare the pick of the round for me. Very hard to call.
Westmeath v Armagh also hard to call. And Meath v Tyrone is the other game I'd like to see, even though not a whole heap of doubt about how it would go, but Meath might have a kick in them yet.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on May 28, 2018, 09:20:44 AM
Probable winners i: v probable beaten semi finalists

Derry vs Kildare        Kildare                     leitrim
Meath v Tyrone         Tyrone                     sligo
Louth v London          London                  fermanagh
Wicklow v Cavan        Cavan                    down
Offaly v Antrim             Offaly                    tipperary
Mayo v Limerick           Mayo                    clare
Westmeath v Armagh  Armagh                laois
Wexford  v waterford      wexford             longford

Double clairvoyance here!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 28, 2018, 09:30:27 AM
Unless I missed it I don't think any round 1 game is down to be televised?

Westmeath again for Armagh needed a late goal to finish them off last year. I recall Tyrone only sneaking past Meath a few years ago. Good draw for London to get a win. Handy for Cavan. Two bald men fighting over a comb will be Offaly v Antrim and Wexford v Waterford, how lucky are Mayo in these draws? Derry well capable of beating Kildare at home.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on May 28, 2018, 09:40:36 AM
Unless I missed it I don't think any round 1 game is down to be televised?

Westmeath again for Armagh needed a late goal to finish them off last year. I recall Tyrone only sneaking past Meath a few years ago. Good draw for London to get a win. Handy for Cavan. Two bald men fighting over a comb will be Offaly v Antrim and Wexford v Waterford, how lucky are Mayo in these draws? Derry well capable of beating Kildare at home.

In fairness Mayo had an 75% chance of being lucky. The GAA need Mayo attendance wise. Should they go out before the Super 8, it will be a disaster for Headquarters. Super 8 was put in place to milk money from Mayo and Dublin (and maybe Tyrone) Supporters.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on May 28, 2018, 09:41:07 AM
Do it for '96 boys!!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: illdecide on May 28, 2018, 09:42:09 AM
What's the dates for these games
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 09:42:50 AM
What's the dates for these games
9 and 10 of June
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on May 28, 2018, 09:46:22 AM
Unless I missed it I don't think any round 1 game is down to be televised?

Derry well capable of beating Kildare at home.

Kildare boys in danger of a nosebleed by having to go so far north.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 28, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
What date these games on??
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2018, 09:47:35 AM
Unless I missed it I don't think any round 1 game is down to be televised?

Westmeath again for Armagh needed a late goal to finish them off last year. I recall Tyrone only sneaking past Meath a few years ago. Good draw for London to get a win. Handy for Cavan. Two bald men fighting over a comb will be Offaly v Antrim and Wexford v Waterford, how lucky are Mayo in these draws? Derry well capable of beating Kildare at home.

In fairness Mayo had an 75% chance of being lucky. The GAA need Mayo attendance wise. Should they go out before the Super 8, it will be a disaster for Headquarters. Super 8 was put in place to milk money from Mayo and Dublin (and maybe Tyrone) Supporters.

Wicklow,Waterford and Limerick the three worse teams in the draw and Mayo got one of them without a doubt lucky in these draws. Super 8s was indeed brought to make money as All Ireland quarter finals attendances have been falling.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: BennyCake on May 28, 2018, 09:56:50 AM
First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 09:58:40 AM
First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on May 28, 2018, 10:02:23 AM
In fairness it will be round three before the cream of the qualifiers come to the top and then it gets interesting as the 8 winners of round 2 are pitted against each other.
still it's an interesting sideshow.i might be a bit more interested if my beloved Galway end up in round 2!!!😁
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on May 28, 2018, 10:26:32 AM
In fairness it will be round three before the cream of the qualifiers come to the top and then it gets interesting as the 8 winners of round 2 are pitted against each other.
still it's an interesting sideshow.i might be a bit more interested if my beloved Galway end up in round 2!!!😁

It looks like tipp, Clare, laois/carlow, longford, leitrim, Sligo, fermanagh, down playing the winners, there's nothing in there that will scare anyone. Rounds 3/4 is where it should come to life.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: BennyCake on May 28, 2018, 10:30:55 AM
First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)

Aye, I admit, stealing the game in injury time wasn't very gentleman-like from us.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: thejuice on May 28, 2018, 11:45:28 AM
Nice handy draw for us at home. Meath by 10 points.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on May 28, 2018, 12:07:27 PM
Nice handy draw for us at home. Meath by 10 points.

If ye lose it will have been a pretty crap season. Close to relegation Div 2, beaten in Leinster by Longford and out in the 1st round of qualifiers. Can your manager survive a year like that?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on May 28, 2018, 12:09:24 PM
What's the dates for these games
9 and 10 of June

What a pity its not the 8th June, after the repeal of the 8th, for these 8 matches, to get into the super 8s.


Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 12:11:52 PM
I presume most of these matches will be Saturday evenings, given the Hurling Round Robin and Leinster and Ulster football matches already on the 10th?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on May 28, 2018, 12:13:58 PM
I think Armagh ones are so pissed aff with the performance against Fermanagh, that those who are bothered will head down to Athlone with zero expectations.

The chances of a run like last year is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LCohen on May 28, 2018, 12:48:20 PM
Few will travel to Mullingar and even less to Athlone.

Confidence is rock bottom. Neither team have much current cause for optimism. That said there is little by way of added quality likely to come from the defeated provincial semi finalists. We would have to win 2 games before encountering Mayo or Tyrone. All is not lost yet.

But yes Enniskillen was pitiful and any similar exit from the qualifiers would surely signal the end of McGeeney with Armagh and probably inter county management
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 28, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
I feel bad for Armagh went to see them in the championship a couple of times last year and they brought a massive colorful following. Would love to see them do well for their supporters.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LCohen on May 28, 2018, 01:24:14 PM
I feel bad for Armagh went to see them in the championship a couple of times last year and they brought a massive colorful following. Would love to see them do well for their supporters.

We will bring that again.

Our 2017 campaign is a prototype of what many counties will see in the new format. Building a momentum through the qualifiers but getting no closer to winning a game in the last 8. This years super 8 are likely to be the provincial winners, the losing finalists in Ulster and Connacht and Mayo and Tyrone. If the latter 2 play each other beforehand or the losers in Connacht or Ulster finals then a space will open up for someone else. But in those circumstances there is a fair chance that team will lose 3 games and be destroyed in at least 2.

Armagh were humiliated in Croke Park by Tyrone. Difficult to bounce back from but more difficult again if you are on the end of 2 or 3 such hammerings

This format will allow you to extract short term glory from out running the also rans without getting a step closer to the elite
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: JGDoire on May 28, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
Fancy Derry to beat Kildare :-)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 28, 2018, 02:00:58 PM
In fairness it will be round three before the cream of the qualifiers come to the top and then it gets interesting as the 8 winners of round 2 are pitted against each other.
still it's an interesting sideshow.i might be a bit more interested if my beloved Galway end up in round 2!!!😁

It looks like tipp, Clare, laois/carlow, longford, leitrim, Sligo, fermanagh, down playing the winners, there's nothing in there that will scare anyone. Rounds 3/4 is where it should come to life.

Tipp probably the team to avoid there
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2018, 02:03:56 PM
Fancy Derry to beat Kildare :-)

So do I for some reason.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on May 28, 2018, 04:01:42 PM
We’re heading for the Super 8s
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on May 28, 2018, 09:08:29 PM
Not to be confused with the Shitty 8’s
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2018, 09:11:43 PM
In fairness it will be round three before the cream of the qualifiers come to the top and then it gets interesting as the 8 winners of round 2 are pitted against each other.
still it's an interesting sideshow.i might be a bit more interested if my beloved Galway end up in round 2!!!😁

It looks like tipp, Clare, laois/carlow, longford, leitrim, Sligo, fermanagh, down playing the winners, there's nothing in there that will scare anyone. Rounds 3/4 is where it should come to life.

Tipp probably the team to avoid there

I would be wary of Fermanagh myself.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo Club 51 on May 29, 2018, 01:25:25 PM
Been confirmed the Limerick v Mayo Rd1 qualifier is on Saturday 9th June at 6pm in the Gaelic Grounds Limerick.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Dire Ear on May 29, 2018, 02:03:38 PM
Have Limerick a chance??
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: galwayman on May 29, 2018, 02:22:37 PM
Have Limerick a chance??
Zero chance
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on May 29, 2018, 02:45:00 PM
Have Limerick a chance??

They are at home and Mayo don't seem to like the Gaelic grounds as a venue! The GAA financially needs Mayo and Tyrone in the Super 8's. Super 8's is there to milk money from the fans.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 29, 2018, 03:18:58 PM
Been confirmed the Limerick v Mayo Rd1 qualifier is on Saturday 9th June at 6pm in the Gaelic Grounds Limerick.

Shouldn't be too late getting home.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: spuds on May 29, 2018, 03:22:18 PM
Have Limerick a chance??

They are at home and Mayo don't seem to like the Gaelic grounds as a venue! The GAA financially needs Mayo and Tyrone in the Super 8's. Super 8's is there to milk money from the fans.

Ah will you cheer the duck up. Go outside and take in the sunshine and crack an old smile. Don't be taking all the negative GAA headlines to heart.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 29, 2018, 03:42:33 PM
Have Limerick a chance??

They are at home and Mayo don't seem to like the Gaelic grounds as a venue! The GAA financially needs Mayo and Tyrone in the Super 8's. Super 8's is there to milk money from the fans.

Ah will you cheer the duck up. Go outside and take in the sunshine and crack an old smile. Don't be taking all the negative GAA headlines to heart.

 ;D And as for the money FtB, you don't have to part with it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 29, 2018, 04:05:40 PM
In fairness it will be round three before the cream of the qualifiers come to the top and then it gets interesting as the 8 winners of round 2 are pitted against each other.
still it's an interesting sideshow.i might be a bit more interested if my beloved Galway end up in round 2!!!😁

It looks like tipp, Clare, laois/carlow, longford, leitrim, Sligo, fermanagh, down playing the winners, there's nothing in there that will scare anyone. Rounds 3/4 is where it should come to life.

Tipp probably the team to avoid there

I would be wary of Fermanagh myself.

Yeah, after tipp, they'd be next ones I'd like to avoid (assuming they end up in the qualifiers)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 29, 2018, 04:49:40 PM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

What's the TV coverage likely to be for this - just one live?

Derry v Kildare the pick of the round for me. Very hard to call.
Westmeath v Armagh also hard to call. And Meath v Tyrone is the other game I'd like to see, even though not a whole heap of doubt about how it would go, but Meath might have a kick in them yet.

First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)

Lads, we've lost half our squad from last year, this one won't be close, we're in free fall. And if our defences were going to be up after the shocking behaviour on and off the pitch last year we wouldn't have rolled over in the league. See it's been fixed for Saturday June 9 at 7pm, I'm sure there'll be a motion to the council for the town to treat the day like a travellers wedding and to keep the pubs shut.  :P
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: APM on May 29, 2018, 05:04:27 PM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

What's the TV coverage likely to be for this - just one live?

Derry v Kildare the pick of the round for me. Very hard to call.
Westmeath v Armagh also hard to call. And Meath v Tyrone is the other game I'd like to see, even though not a whole heap of doubt about how it would go, but Meath might have a kick in them yet.

First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)

Lads, we've lost half our squad from last year, this one won't be close, we're in free fall. And if our defences were going to be up after the shocking behaviour on and off the pitch last year we wouldn't have rolled over in the league. See it's been fixed for Saturday June 9 at 7pm, I'm sure there'll be a motion to the council for the town to treat the day like a travellers wedding and to keep the pubs shut.  :P

 ;D

I had to get up and leave my seat after 5 minutes of the first half last year and stand beside a crowd of Westmeath hallions at the back wall. 

The reason?

Two wimmin who gave a running commentary on the antics of the brutish Northern players! They weren't loud or vulgar - it was a bit like a couple of oul biddies from Glenroe, talking about drug dealers, young fellas drinking and fighting on the street and young girls showing too much flesh!

Literally!
Would you look at that there now! Isn't that disgusting Mary.
I don't think they came here to play football at all Nuala!
Isn't it just disgraceful. Dirty, Dirty, Dirty!

A few minutes of that was enough for me!!


Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: joemamas on May 29, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

What's the TV coverage likely to be for this - just one live?

Derry v Kildare the pick of the round for me. Very hard to call.
Westmeath v Armagh also hard to call. And Meath v Tyrone is the other game I'd like to see, even though not a whole heap of doubt about how it would go, but Meath might have a kick in them yet.

First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)

Lads, we've lost half our squad from last year, this one won't be close, we're in free fall. And if our defences were going to be up after the shocking behaviour on and off the pitch last year we wouldn't have rolled over in the league. See it's been fixed for Saturday June 9 at 7pm, I'm sure there'll be a motion to the council for the town to treat the day like a travellers wedding and to keep the pubs shut.  :P

It would be the icing on the cake if there was a travelers wedding that evening.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 29, 2018, 05:21:09 PM
I feel bad for Armagh went to see them in the championship a couple of times last year and they brought a massive colorful following. Would love to see them do well for their supporters.

We will bring that again.

Our 2017 campaign is a prototype of what many counties will see in the new format. Building a momentum through the qualifiers but getting no closer to winning a game in the last 8. This years super 8 are likely to be the provincial winners, the losing finalists in Ulster and Connacht and Mayo and Tyrone. If the latter 2 play each other beforehand or the losers in Connacht or Ulster finals then a space will open up for someone else. But in those circumstances there is a fair chance that team will lose 3 games and be destroyed in at least 2.

Armagh were humiliated in Croke Park by Tyrone. Difficult to bounce back from but more difficult again if you are on the end of 2 or 3 such hammerings

This format will allow you to extract short term glory from out running the also rans without getting a step closer to the elite

Under the previous non Super 8 format, you would fairly regularly get teams who rode their luck a bit to get to the quarter-finals.
With the new Super 8 format these teams could potentially be on course for 3 very bad beatings at the Super 8 stage, especially if the first game is a bad loss.

How would Armagh have fared if they had to play say Dublin and Monaghan last year in the 2 weeks after the Tyrone beating?
Same applies for Clare in 2016 if they had to play Dublin and Donegal in the 2 weeks after losing by 11 points to Kerry?
Or going back another year Kildare in 2015 if they had to play Monaghan and Tyrone in the 2 weeks after the 7 goal mauling by Kerry?
[These imaginary groups are simply the 4 teams on the one side of the quarterfinals in those years]
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Westside on May 29, 2018, 08:29:05 PM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

What's the TV coverage likely to be for this - just one live?

Derry v Kildare the pick of the round for me. Very hard to call.
Westmeath v Armagh also hard to call. And Meath v Tyrone is the other game I'd like to see, even though not a whole heap of doubt about how it would go, but Meath might have a kick in them yet.

First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)

Lads, we've lost half our squad from last year, this one won't be close, we're in free fall. And if our defences were going to be up after the shocking behaviour on and off the pitch last year we wouldn't have rolled over in the league. See it's been fixed for Saturday June 9 at 7pm, I'm sure there'll be a motion to the council for the town to treat the day like a travellers wedding and to keep the pubs shut.  :P

It would be the icing on the cake if there was a travelers wedding that evening.

At least with the Armagh jerseys you'd be able to tell the two crowds apart.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Armamike on May 30, 2018, 09:24:31 AM
Lovely.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 30, 2018, 09:26:56 AM
the full list

Derry vs Kildare
Meath v Tyrone
Louth v London
Wicklow v Cavan
Offaly v Antrim
Mayo v Limerick
Westmeath v Armagh
Wexford v Waterford

Derry v Kildare and Meath v Tyrone the tie of the rounds. Think London will be at home. Cavan should get back to winning way. Offaly Antrim could go either way. Mayo blessed in a qualifier draw again, Westmeath v Armagh could go either way and Wexford should beat Waterford.

What's the TV coverage likely to be for this - just one live?

Derry v Kildare the pick of the round for me. Very hard to call.
Westmeath v Armagh also hard to call. And Meath v Tyrone is the other game I'd like to see, even though not a whole heap of doubt about how it would go, but Meath might have a kick in them yet.

First named teams at home unless a D1/2 team playing D3/D4? If so,

Derry v Kildare - Derry
Meath v Tyrone - Tyrone
London v Louth - London
Wicklow v Cavan - Cavan
Offaly v Antrim - Who knows
Limerick v Mayo - Mayo
Westmeath v Armagh - Westmeath
Wexford v Waterford - Wexford

Don't let our performance v Fermanagh fool you. We'll be coming out of Mullingar with a win.

That's my version of Milltown Row's reverse psychology :)

Ah no, I think Westmeath in Mullingar will be tough again for ye, and their defences will be up after yer shocking behaviour last time around :)

Lads, we've lost half our squad from last year, this one won't be close, we're in free fall. And if our defences were going to be up after the shocking behaviour on and off the pitch last year we wouldn't have rolled over in the league. See it's been fixed for Saturday June 9 at 7pm, I'm sure there'll be a motion to the council for the town to treat the day like a travellers wedding and to keep the pubs shut.  :P

It would be the icing on the cake if there was a travelers wedding that evening.

At least with the Armagh jerseys you'd be able to tell the two crowds apart.

Sure if ye were wearing the jerseys there'd be nothing to distinguish ye from the wimin, unless they went for the blacker than black Ronseal.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 30, 2018, 09:30:14 AM
Quote
Sure if ye were wearing the jerseys there'd be nothing to distinguish ye from the wimin, unless they went for the blacker than black Ronseal.

Armagh wimmin are easy to spot at matches. They're the ones effin and blinding louder.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mackers on May 30, 2018, 11:01:36 AM
See this thread has taken a turn for the worse. Hard to beat the sweeping generalisations. Stay classy. :-\
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 30, 2018, 12:26:27 PM
Jeez westmeathians making fun of Armagh ones alongside travellers....you couldn’t make it up!!!!  Stick to the singing....on me oh my!!!!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 30, 2018, 12:45:36 PM
Armagh fans can't be that bad?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on May 30, 2018, 12:57:33 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 30, 2018, 02:19:06 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: illdecide on May 30, 2018, 02:32:26 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.

I really want to go to this match, I really do but I'm not sure if I should. Losing my appetite fast...
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Armamike on May 30, 2018, 04:25:17 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.

I really want to go to this match, I really do but I'm not sure if I should. Losing my appetite fast...

The season for me finished a couple of weeks back in Enniskillen.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on May 30, 2018, 04:37:51 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.

I really want to go to this match, I really do but I'm not sure if I should. Losing my appetite fast...

I was there last year and the league match this year. Won’t make it on the 9th tho as I’m doing the Mourne Way half marathon.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: naka on May 30, 2018, 04:46:37 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.

I really want to go to this match, I really do but I'm not sure if I should. Losing my appetite fast...

The season for me finished a couple of weeks back in Enniskillen.
Same for me
Appetite has gone for this year.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on May 30, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.

I really want to go to this match, I really do but I'm not sure if I should. Losing my appetite fast...

The season for me finished a couple of weeks back in Enniskillen.
Same for me
Appetite has gone for this year.

I don't know which was more sickening, the game or the pure rank Chinese I got in Enniskillen afterwards.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: lurganblue on June 01, 2018, 12:25:54 PM
Why have WM got home advantage when they had it last year?

Drawn first out of the hat.

I really want to go to this match, I really do but I'm not sure if I should. Losing my appetite fast...

The season for me finished a couple of weeks back in Enniskillen.
Same for me
Appetite has gone for this year.

I don't know which was more sickening, the game or the pure rank Chinese I got in Enniskillen afterwards.

why is the game at 7 bells fs.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 03, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
Half of this year's Division 1 teams in the qualifiers already after Monaghan's loss today.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2018, 10:19:51 AM
I see on wiki it says teams who've played each other previously can meet each other in round 2 but can't in round 3 & 4, anyone know if thats right?

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: HiMucker on June 04, 2018, 10:23:31 AM
Id say that's right MM.  I Remember a few years back, Derry were beat by Down in the USFC, then beat them 2 weeks later in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 04, 2018, 10:26:00 AM
Half of this year's Division 1 teams in the qualifiers already after Monaghan's loss today.

There are some big fish swimming in there for sure.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
Round 1                      Round 2 Teams

Offaly                                  Monaghan
London                                Down/Donegal
Louth                                  Longford (not going to bother sticking Dublin down!)
Mayo                                   Carlow/Laois                             
Cavan                                  Sligo
Wexford                               Leitrim
Westmeath                           Clare
Kildare                                 Tipp
Wicklow
Meath
Waterford
Limerick
Armagh
Tyrone
Antrim
Derry

Everyone will be looking to avoid Monaghan and to a lesser extent Tipp (Donegal if they get beat, too) in round 2. However, all other teams are eminently beatable. If we get over Meath you could almost guarantee that we'll draw the Farney boyos.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on June 04, 2018, 11:48:31 AM
Round 1                      Round 2 Teams

Offaly                                  Monaghan
London                                Down/Donegal
Louth                                  Longford (not going to bother sticking Dublin down!)
Mayo                                   Carlow/Laois                             
Cavan                                  Sligo
Wexford                               Leitrim
Westmeath                           Clare
Kildare                                 Tipp
Wicklow
Meath
Waterford
Limerick
Armagh
Tyrone
Antrim
Derry

Everyone will be looking to avoid Monaghan and to a lesser extent Tipp (Donegal if they get beat, too) in round 2. However, all other teams are eminently beatable. If we get over Meath you could almost guarantee that we'll draw the Farney boyos.

4 "non winners" will make the super 8s. Looking at that list you'd fancy mayo, tyrone, monaghan anyway (assuming they avoid each other). I think the bigger issue this year is what kind of state they'll be in by then.
In terms of tyrone drawing monaghan it can only happen in r2. No restrictions in that round but in round 3 there are. r4 is against a beaten provincial finalist
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on June 04, 2018, 12:20:02 PM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Cheers
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LeoMc on June 04, 2018, 01:04:47 PM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Cheers

In round 2 there are 2 separate bowls, 1 for the first 8 round qualifier winners and 1 for the 8 beaten provincial semi-finalists.
Which bowl gets pulled first, i.e. everything else being equal who gets home advantage?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 02:24:39 PM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Cheers

In round 2 there are 2 separate bowls, 1 for the first 8 round qualifier winners and 1 for the 8 beaten provincial semi-finalists.
Which bowl gets pulled first, i.e. everything else being equal who gets home advantage?

Do they not drop the unopened balls into a third, empty, bowl and then draw out first (home) team?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
The blood sports begin today!!!
I expect that the following will be victims by close of business today
Waterford
Derry
Meath
Wicklow
Antrim
Limerick
Westmeath.
As for tomorrow I think we'll see London doing Louth
If so will it be London's first Qualifier win?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 09, 2018, 01:43:52 PM
The blood sports begin today!!!
I expect that the following will be victims by close of business today
Waterford
Derry
Meath
Wicklow
Antrim
Limerick
Westmeath.
As for tomorrow I think we'll see London doing Louth
If so will it be London's first Qualifier win?
Doubt it. If Sligo can beat London by 10 points then Louth should be able to win by a point or two.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 09, 2018, 02:33:05 PM
Waterford up against Wexford at half time. Christ Wexford went back at some speed this year.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
Waterford win by 3.
1st wrong prediction of the day :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 09, 2018, 03:34:00 PM
The demise of Leinster goes on
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on June 09, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
Wexford won 1 game in the league - a one-point win over Armagh in the last round (I think that Armagh may rested some players for the ahead of the Division 3 final)

Two losses in the championship to 2 sides who were playing Division 4 football this year is fairly grim stuff.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 09, 2018, 04:33:35 PM
Waterford up against Wexford at half time. Christ Wexford went back at some speed this year.

Should never have gotten rid of Banty   ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on June 09, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
Cavan 2-8 Wicklow 0-1 – HT
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: BennyCake on June 09, 2018, 07:04:10 PM
The demise of Leinster goes on

Blame the GAA Bankrolling the Dubs
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
The demise of Leinster goes on

Blame the GAA Bankrolling the Dubs

Don't forget Bertie!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 09, 2018, 08:52:51 PM
Pot 1
Offaly                                 
London/Louth                                 
Mayo                                                                 
Cavan                                                                                       
Kildare                               
Waterford
Armagh
Tyrone

Pot 2
Monaghan
Down/Donegal
Longford
Carlow/Laois
Sligo
Leitrim
Clare
Tipperary
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 09, 2018, 09:47:26 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 09, 2018, 10:29:13 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 10, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
The Meath v Tyrone match shows that in a knockout situation teams will raise their game.not many gave Meath any chance but they came so close.
Mayo done what they needed to do against limerick.
Derry put in a battling performance against kildare.
Waterford really got the day started with their win.
Looking forward to the draw on monday,it should throw up some novel pairings.waterford v leitrim or Sligo!!!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 09:43:32 AM
Laythrum played Waterford in Carrick  last year or was it 2016?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 10:25:39 AM
The Meath v Tyrone match shows that in a knockout situation teams will raise their game.not many gave Meath any chance but they came so close.
Mayo done what they needed to do against limerick.
Derry put in a battling performance against kildare.
Waterford really got the day started with their win.
Looking forward to the draw on monday,it should throw up some novel pairings.waterford v leitrim or Sligo!!!
Home advantage against a side that just lost to Carlow and concede 2-22 to them is called a battling performance now?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 10, 2018, 12:34:59 PM
When is the draw?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: MayoBuck on June 10, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
When is the draw?

Tomorrow morning around 8:30.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 10, 2018, 01:10:37 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.

Ah yes. Have you Wed's lotto numbers as well?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.

Ah yes. Have you Wed's lotto numbers as well?

I do but I'm keeping them to myself
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2018, 01:55:30 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.

Ah yes. Have you Wed's lotto numbers as well?

The Lotto is less predictable than Dublin v Longford.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 10, 2018, 02:22:56 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.

Ah yes. Have you Wed's lotto numbers as well?

The Lotto is less predictable than Dublin v Longford.

 ::)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 02:43:58 PM
Louth 2-12 London 1-9 ht
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 03:51:29 PM
Does the Div 3 and Div 4 teams have home advantage in round 2?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mayo.mick on June 10, 2018, 03:57:03 PM
Does the Div 3 and Div 4 teams have home advantage in round 2?

Think so
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
Does the Div 3 and Div 4 teams have home advantage in round 2?

I'm sure Monaghan will quake in their boots.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 04:06:16 PM
Does the Div 3 and Div 4 teams have home advantage in round 2?

I'm sure Monaghan will quake in their boots.

Nobody will want to go to Armagh, non of the rest you'd worry about
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2018, 04:27:06 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.

I may have understated this. I forgot about the Maurice Deegan factor and him being useless
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 10, 2018, 05:02:23 PM
Owen. How much did we lose to Dublin by? My mind seems to have gone blank  :(

I think it was 20 points.

I may have understated this. I forgot about the Maurice Deegan factor and him being useless

Good luck in the Quailifers Itchy.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2018, 05:25:56 PM
I wouldn't especially like to draw Longford in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2018, 05:52:18 PM
Pot 1
Offaly                                 
Louth                                 
Mayo                                                                 
Cavan                                                                                       
Kildare                               
Waterford
Armagh
Tyrone

Pot 2
Monaghan
Down
Longford
Carlow
Sligo
Leitrim
Clare
Tipperary

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 10, 2018, 05:53:34 PM
I wouldn't especially like to draw Longford in the qualifiers.

Hope we get down
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Square Ball on June 10, 2018, 05:57:55 PM
Do pot 1 play pot 2? I have no idea
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
Do pot 1 play pot 2? I have no idea

yes and repeat meetings are possible
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Square Ball on June 10, 2018, 06:14:37 PM
Pot 1 at home?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 06:16:49 PM
Pot 1 at home?

No, not as I understand it: first drawn at home, unless it's a Div I team, in which case away.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 06:17:07 PM
I wouldn't especially like to draw Longford in the qualifiers.

Hope we get down
https://youtu.be/qchPLaiKocI
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 10, 2018, 06:17:16 PM
If division 3 or 4 against 1 or 2 then the lower ranked team home. Otherwise a draw for home venue.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2018, 07:16:41 PM
Pot 1 at home?

No, not as I understand it: first drawn at home, unless it's a Div I team, in which case away.

You can't have 1st drawn at home when you have two pots.  There would have to be a draw for home
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
Pot 1 at home?

No, not as I understand it: first drawn at home, unless it's a Div I team, in which case away.

You can't have 1st drawn at home when you have two pots.  There would have to be a draw for home

Is it not a ball taken from each and put in a 3rd bowl and 1st out at home unless the division 3/4 situation is there
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 07:26:25 PM
Do pot 1 play pot 2? I have no idea

yes and repeat meetings are possible

Carlow v Kildare nailed on ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2018, 07:28:11 PM
Pot 1 at home?

No, not as I understand it: first drawn at home, unless it's a Div I team, in which case away.

You can't have 1st drawn at home when you have two pots.  There would have to be a draw for home

Is it not a ball taken from each and put in a 3rd bowl and 1st out at home unless the division 3/4 situation is there

Would have to be something like that
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on June 10, 2018, 08:17:41 PM
Do pot 1 play pot 2? I have no idea

yes and repeat meetings are possible

Carlow v Kildare nailed on ;D
Along with Monaghan Tyrone
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 10, 2018, 09:11:21 PM

My preferences would be:

Pot 2
Monaghan 8
Down 4
Longford 6
Carlow 2
Sligo 3
Leitrim 1
Clare 5
Tipperary 7
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 10, 2018, 09:29:14 PM
Tyrone v monaghan
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2018, 09:57:28 PM
Monaghan / Mayo would be slightly novel and still a serious game for Sky or whoever. Both have spacious home venues.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 09:58:53 PM
Tyrone v monaghan
Tyrone v the world would be even better
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: joemamas on June 10, 2018, 11:57:00 PM
Anybody know if the extended highlights of yesterday’s qualifiers shown on RTE after Dublin V Longford are available on line.

I believe an abbreviated version were shown on Sunday game.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on June 11, 2018, 05:49:34 AM
Tyrone v monaghan
Tyrone v the world would be even better

Feels like that at times  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2018, 07:39:16 AM
Anybody know if the extended highlights of yesterday’s qualifiers shown on RTE after Dublin V Longford are available on line.

I believe an abbreviated version were shown on Sunday game.

Rte player would have it
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 08:42:50 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 11, 2018, 08:44:55 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth

Should be the winners.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 11, 2018, 08:49:14 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth
While I would like to think that we can take Kildare I do agree with the above.

Should be the winners.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: ONeill on June 11, 2018, 08:51:25 AM
Poacher v Harte
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2018, 08:51:40 AM
Tipp will ask more questions of Mayo than Limerick anyway.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 11, 2018, 08:51:44 AM
The flourbag's soft, upper/middle-class underbelly will be no match for the Larries tough, working-class steel.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 08:53:39 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth

While I would like to think that we can take Kildare I do agree with the above.

Should be the winners.
One bonus for ye is that it'll be on in Longford.

Can't see us taking Armagh.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on June 11, 2018, 08:53:58 AM
Tipp v Mayo the tie of the round. Potential banana skin for Mayo if they play like they did this time last year and presuming Tipp can improve on their poor performance v Cork. But you'd still think Mayo will win comfortably enough. Home advantage not worth a feck if the home fans don't turn up.

Sligo might give Armagh a game, and it will be very interesting to see how Carlow fare against Tyrone.

Overall it looks like results are all very predictable, but I'd be surprised if there's not a surprise in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 08:57:46 AM
Tipp v Mayo the tie of the round. Potential banana skin for Mayo if they play like they did this time last year and presuming Tipp can improve on their poor performance v Cork. But you'd still think Mayo will win comfortably enough. Home advantage not worth a feck if the home fans don't turn up.

Sligo might give Armagh a game, and it will be very interesting to see how Carlow fare against Tyrone.

Overall it looks like results are all very predictable, but I'd be surprised if there's not a surprise in there somewhere.
Hope they do, it's not like they have the hurlers to follow for the rest of the summer now. ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 11, 2018, 08:58:55 AM
Tipp v Mayo the tie of the round. Potential banana skin for Mayo if they play like they did this time last year and presuming Tipp can improve on their poor performance v Cork. But you'd still think Mayo will win comfortably enough. Home advantage not worth a feck if the home fans don't turn up.

Sligo might give Armagh a game, and it will be very interesting to see how Carlow fare against Tyrone.

Overall it looks like results are all very predictable, but I'd be surprised if there's not a surprise in there somewhere.

They might but didn't give Armagh a game in the league this year and were hopeless against Galway. Hopefully the surprise results are wins for underdogs such as Carlow and Tipp.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2018, 08:59:19 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth

While I would like to think that we can take Kildare I do agree with the above.

Should be the winners.
One bonus for ye is that it'll be on in Longford.

Can't see us taking Armagh.

After this round we have an open draw within the qualifiers. If the teams in bold win above you could potentially get to super 8s by beating say Louth and fermanagh/laois/cork (assuming they lose provincial final)

Of course you could get rotten luck and have two very difficult games.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 11, 2018, 09:11:39 AM
Tipp v Mayo the tie of the round. Potential banana skin for Mayo if they play like they did this time last year and presuming Tipp can improve on their poor performance v Cork. But you'd still think Mayo will win comfortably enough. Home advantage not worth a feck if the home fans don't turn up.

Sligo might give Armagh a game, and it will be very interesting to see how Carlow fare against Tyrone.

Overall it looks like results are all very predictable, but I'd be surprised if there's not a surprise in there somewhere.
Hope they do, it's not like they have the hurlers to follow for the rest of the summer now. ;D

There will be a big home support and hurlers gone will contribute to that. Mayo will probably bring 12k or so? We'll be outnumber but most teams are against them
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 11, 2018, 09:13:17 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 11, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
I'll be very interested to see how many of the teams left standing at the business end of the qualifiers went into the pot in round 1.
My hypothesis is, if you're going to exit your provincial championship, get out good and early.
This is a particularly insidious premise in Leinster, where you know you have zero chance of winning the thing.
Meath & Kildare were both much improved in Round 1 (I know we still lost) after losing to Longford & Carlow.
If we had beaten Tyrone in normal-time, today we'd be looking at playing a round 2 team, and against anyone other than Monaghan, I'd fancy our chances.
Longford are heading into the qualifiers on the back of a hammering, but they are infamous back-door specialists, so maybe they will park the loss and embrace the challenge ahead.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Tipperary v Mayo
Waterford v Monaghan
Cavan v Down
Carlow v Tyrone
Offaly v Clare
Kildare v Longford
Sligo v Armagh
Leitrim v Louth
While I would like to think that we can take Kildare I do agree with the above.

Should be the winners.
Depends on which flour bag turns up. Kildare are more emotional than backstage at the Yves Saint Laurent spring collection. 
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2018, 09:20:42 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 11, 2018, 09:23:18 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on June 11, 2018, 09:24:38 AM
7 out of the 8 round one qualifiers were won by the away team. Offaly the only team to buck the trend.
Home advantage really counts for feck all in GAA  ;)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 11, 2018, 09:28:23 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Would agree Louth v Leitrim probably the hardest game to call. Hopefully we see a few shocks in round 2 to make it a bit more interesting. I can imagine Tipp v Mayo will be the live game.


7 out of the 8 round one qualifiers were won by the away team. Offaly the only team to buck the trend.
Home advantage really counts for feck all in GAA  ;)

One home win again this time Cavan?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on June 11, 2018, 09:46:50 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Would agree Louth v Leitrim probably the hardest game to call. Hopefully we see a few shocks in round 2 to make it a bit more interesting. I can imagine Tipp v Mayo will be the live game.


Is there a live qualifier ? The Cork Kerry Munster final is on the Saturday and the ulster and Leinster finals are on the Sunday.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on June 11, 2018, 09:54:47 AM
Sligo at home to Armagh, ya?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on June 11, 2018, 09:55:10 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Would agree Louth v Leitrim probably the hardest game to call. Hopefully we see a few shocks in round 2 to make it a bit more interesting. I can imagine Tipp v Mayo will be the live game.


Is there a live qualifier ? The Cork Kerry Munster final is on the Saturday and the ulster and Leinster finals are on the Sunday.
Cork v Kerry is 7pm on Saturday 23rd, so presumably there'll be a live R2 qualifier at 5pm
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 10:00:00 AM
Sligo at home to Armagh, ya?
Were drawn out first so it would be yes.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 10:01:12 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Would agree Louth v Leitrim probably the hardest game to call. Hopefully we see a few shocks in round 2 to make it a bit more interesting. I can imagine Tipp v Mayo will be the live game.


Is there a live qualifier ? The Cork Kerry Munster final is on the Saturday and the ulster and Leinster finals are on the Sunday.
Cork v Kerry is 7pm on Saturday 23rd, so presumably there'll be a live R2 qualifier at 5pm
RTE presumably have the Munster final so Sky will surely have a qualifier on,
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 11, 2018, 10:44:16 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Surely this is a troll.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 11, 2018, 10:48:57 AM
I hope that our match is on Sky, so Rouse can tell them to f**k off. I’m confident that we can beat Clare.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on June 11, 2018, 11:41:13 AM
Tipp v Mayo will be the TV game.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on June 11, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Would agree Louth v Leitrim probably the hardest game to call. Hopefully we see a few shocks in round 2 to make it a bit more interesting. I can imagine Tipp v Mayo will be the live game.


Is there a live qualifier ? The Cork Kerry Munster final is on the Saturday and the ulster and Leinster finals are on the Sunday.
Cork v Kerry is 7pm on Saturday 23rd, so presumably there'll be a live R2 qualifier at 5pm

You'd imagine whoever broadcasts it would want Tipp v Mayo?? Cork v Kerry is Páirc Uí Chaoimh so that would work..
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
I don't suppose the fact that our hurlers are up in Croke Park in the Meagher final that Saturday will mean our qualifier would be on the Sunday instead, or just at a later throw-in like 7?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: munchkin on June 11, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
Tipp v Mayo will be the TV game.
you'd think so, but given the opposition in Mayo to having their games on pay tv, maybe it'd be prudent to give them their wish and show someone else that might appreciate being on telly !
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 11, 2018, 11:59:27 AM
I don't suppose the fact that our hurlers are up in Croke Park in the Meagher final that Saturday will mean our qualifier would be on the Sunday instead, or just at a later throw-in like 7?

Kildare are in the Christy Ring Final too, we will probably be on the Sunday.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 11, 2018, 12:07:05 PM
Tipp v Mayo will be the TV game.
I know, I just wish that we could all see Rouse tell Sky to f**k off.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
One thing for sure is the qualifiers are throwing up interesting games while provincial are dull and predictable. I tbink the end may be in sight for provincial championships.

Round 2 games all look fairly predictable, while the provincial championships this year already had shock wins for Carlow v Kildare, Fermanagh v Monaghan and Galway v Mayo...
Would agree Louth v Leitrim probably the hardest game to call. Hopefully we see a few shocks in round 2 to make it a bit more interesting. I can imagine Tipp v Mayo will be the live game.


Is there a live qualifier ? The Cork Kerry Munster final is on the Saturday and the ulster and Leinster finals are on the Sunday.
Cork v Kerry is 7pm on Saturday 23rd, so presumably there'll be a live R2 qualifier at 5pm

You'd imagine whoever broadcasts it would want Tipp v Mayo?? Cork v Kerry is Páirc Uí Chaoimh so that would work..

Fingers crossed. I'm at a bloody Picture This concert that evening.  :-\
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 11, 2018, 01:43:40 PM
Carlow 15/2 Tyrone 1/10
Cavan 2/5 Down 11/4
Leitrim 13/8 Louth 8/11
Longford 2/1 Kildare 4/7
Offaly 7/4 Clare 4/6
Sligo 5/2 Armagh 1/2
Tipp 5/1 Mayo 2/7
Waterford 11/1 Monaghan 1/25
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 11, 2018, 01:47:10 PM
Tipp 5/1 Is a massive price. I might put a few pound on that. Mayo are not in good shape despite beating a v poor limerick. Down v good price too, I only expect 2/3 points between cavan and down.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 11, 2018, 02:23:17 PM
Tipp 5/1 Is a massive price. I might put a few pound on that. Mayo are not in good shape despite beating a v poor limerick. Down v good price too, I only expect 2/3 points between cavan and down.
Mayo should win by about 6 points so 5/1 about right. If the Down keeper kicks the ball out to Cavan players as much as he did v Donegal yesterday then Cavan should win by comfortable margin.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: munchkin on June 11, 2018, 03:26:43 PM
on the gaa website the Mayo Tipp game has the sky logo beside it, Cork Kerry munster second round final, at 7 on RTE.

If the first game overruns then there'll not be the messing like last weekend.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 11, 2018, 03:37:12 PM
Tipp 5/1 Is a massive price. I might put a few pound on that. Mayo are not in good shape despite beating a v poor limerick. Down v good price too, I only expect 2/3 points between cavan and down.
Mayo should win by about 6 points so 5/1 about right. If the Down keeper kicks the ball out to Cavan players as much as he did v Donegal yesterday then Cavan should win by comfortable margin.

With the games greatest ever forward back playing mayo are home and hosed
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 11, 2018, 03:55:01 PM
Armagh Sligo at 6 on the 23rd
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Oraisteach on June 11, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
How many matches would Armagh need to win to get to the Super 8? Would that be three since the provincial finalist losers need to be added to the mix?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: dec on June 11, 2018, 09:15:20 PM
How many matches would Armagh need to win to get to the Super 8? Would that be three since the provincial finalist losers need to be added to the mix?

3 more
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 11, 2018, 09:24:05 PM
How many matches would Armagh need to win to get to the Super 8? Would that be three since the provincial finalist losers need to be added to the mix?

3 more

While this possible, you could beat Sligo, Louth and Lapis say, I'm not sure it would be entirely a good thing. Although you'd have one big game in Armagh.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Oraisteach on June 11, 2018, 11:47:28 PM
Thanks, Dec. armaghniac, why do you think that making it to the Super 8 would not be entirely good?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 12, 2018, 12:31:23 AM
Thanks, Dec. armaghniac, why do you think that making it to the Super 8 would not be entirely good?

Three hammerings in a row?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Oraisteach on June 12, 2018, 02:52:05 AM
I guess it depends on the teams. We are Div. 2 now, supposedly just beyond the the Super Select, and if we do win three in a row (enormous IF), it’ll tell us where we stand.  Maybe we could avoid THREE hammerings, but a long way before that hypothesis is tested. Sligo first.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 12, 2018, 07:36:24 AM
Thanks, Dec. armaghniac, why do you think that making it to the Super 8 would not be entirely good?

Three hammerings in a row?
Not necessarily. There aren't 8 super teams in the competition. At least 4 of the teams left in the Super 8 will be nothing special and therefore beatable
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Esmarelda on June 12, 2018, 07:42:31 AM
Carlow 15/2 Tyrone 1/10
Cavan 2/5 Down 11/4
Leitrim 13/8 Louth 8/11
Longford 2/1 Kildare 4/7
Offaly 7/4 Clare 4/6
Sligo 5/2 Armagh 1/2
Tipp 5/1 Mayo 2/7
Waterford 11/1 Monaghan 1/25
Tipp are now 10/3
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 12, 2018, 08:01:37 AM
Carlow 15/2 Tyrone 1/10
Cavan 2/5 Down 11/4
Leitrim 13/8 Louth 8/11
Longford 2/1 Kildare 4/7
Offaly 7/4 Clare 4/6
Sligo 5/2 Armagh 1/2
Tipp 5/1 Mayo 2/7
Waterford 11/1 Monaghan 1/25
Tipp are now 10/3

That's with paddy power. Boyles have it tipp 5/1 mayo in 1/7
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: naka on June 12, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
How many matches would Armagh need to win to get to the Super 8? Would that be three since the provincial finalist losers need to be added to the mix?

3 more

While this possible, you could beat Sligo, Louth and Lapis say, I'm not sure it would be entirely a good thing. Although you'd have one big game in Armagh.
Armagh never beat Laois 😎
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2018, 11:30:12 AM
Carlow 15/2 Tyrone 1/10
Cavan 2/5 Down 11/4
Leitrim 13/8 Louth 8/11
Longford 2/1 Kildare 4/7
Offaly 7/4 Clare 4/6
Sligo 5/2 Armagh 1/2
Tipp 5/1 Mayo 2/7
Waterford 11/1 Monaghan 1/25
Tipp are now 10/3

Expected to see some money on Tipp at 5/1 alright
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 12, 2018, 06:00:51 PM
How many matches would Armagh need to win to get to the Super 8? Would that be three since the provincial finalist losers need to be added to the mix?

3 more
We would surely be due one
While this possible, you could beat Sligo, Louth and Lapis say, I'm not sure it would be entirely a good thing. Although you'd have one big game in Armagh.
Armagh never beat Laois 😎
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 12, 2018, 06:28:13 PM
Tipp at home won't be easy,they were rightly pissed off for having to face cork a week after their beating of Waterford.
They will be well up for this game,Mayos bit of class should see them through but it will be a lot closer than the odds in bookies would suggest.i think longford could surprise kildare especially being at home.tyrone,Monahan certaintys it all makes the rd 3 draw very exciting with all the  top teams having to play each other.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 12, 2018, 06:41:34 PM
The football championship really only starts with Round 3.

Meanwhile Cavan v Down  fixed for Brewster Pk at 5pm on 23rd.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 12, 2018, 07:58:03 PM
The football championship really only starts with Round 3.

Meanwhile Cavan v Down  fixed for Brewster Pk at 5pm on 23rd.

How come? Brewster is not in Cavan or anywhere near Down.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 12, 2018, 08:01:52 PM
The football championship really only starts with Round 3.

Meanwhile Cavan v Down  fixed for Brewster Pk at 5pm on 23rd.

How come? Brewster is not in Cavan or anywhere near Down.

One of the stewards told us in the cavan tipp league game that that was the last game that was going to be played there before work was to be done....someone from cavan can fill us in I think it was work being done to the place or maybe the pitch?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 12, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Breffni out of commission for some reason it seems.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2018, 08:46:11 PM
Breffni out of commission for some reason it seems.

Pitch is being re-laid. Its been a major issue for a couple of seasons now, playing too slow. Pretty sure it was one of the 1st prunty pitches in Ulster but it must be there since the mid 90's. Anyway, due back in October they say.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 12, 2018, 08:59:31 PM
Breffni out of commission for some reason it seems.

Pitch is being re-laid. Its been a major issue for a couple of seasons now, playing too slow. Pretty sure it was one of the 1st prunty pitches in Ulster but it must be there since the mid 90's. Anyway, due back in October they say.

Brewster park is a prunty pitch too....stewards are great for info, was told it 3 years ago when we were up there!!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 12, 2018, 10:14:48 PM
Could it not have been in Clones or would they not chance the pitch with the final the next day?? Clones would have been handier all round.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 12, 2018, 10:26:23 PM
Can anyone explain to me the logic of round 1 & 2 of the qualifiers being unresticted with teams able to meet who played in the provincials while round 3 will be restricted??

So if both Tyrone and Monaghan get through they can't meet, Same with Armagh and Monaghan.

It makes little sense to have rounds 1/2 restricted while 3/4 are not.

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 12, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
I'd say cavan would prefer Brewster, played a lot games there over the years.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 12, 2018, 10:30:56 PM
I'd say cavan would prefer Brewster, played a lot games there over the years.

I'd imagine it's 100% their call so that has to be it along with the possibility of Clones being a no go before the U final.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: UpMeeyo on June 12, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
Can anyone explain to me the logic of round 1 & 2 of the qualifiers being unresticted with teams able to meet who played in the provincials while round 3 will be restricted??

So if both Tyrone and Monaghan get through they can't meet, Same with Armagh and Monaghan.

It makes little sense to have rounds 1/2 restricted while 3/4 are not.

Yeah ridiculous. And if mayo make it to round 4 and Rosc beat Galway we wont be able to have a second cut at them.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 12, 2018, 11:22:23 PM
Yeah ridiculous. And if mayo make it to round 4 and Rosc beat Galway we wont be able to have a second cut at them.

To my knowledge there's nothing stopping Mayo being drawn in the same group as the Connaught winner in the Super 8's should you get there. Even if Galway lose that final and win their R4 game you can be in there with them.

Presuming Mayo get to the Super 8....

There's a 50/50 chance you'll be in with Galway if they win the final
There's a 1/3 chance you'd be in with Galway if they lose the final and win round 4.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 13, 2018, 12:12:19 AM
Football rankings from Laoisman11 on Boards.ie

It seems Armagh and Laois should be well matched, but we should beat Sligo.



Δ RankTeamRatingΔ Rating
1 = Dublin 108.64 0.00
2 = Galway 103.87 0.00
3 ▲ 2 Tyrone 97.88 0.16
4 Monaghan 97.76 0.00
5 Kerry 97.73 0.00
6 = Mayo 93.93 0.00
7 Donegal 92.94 1.39
8 Roscommon 92.86 0.00
9 = Fermanagh 91.03 0.00
10 = Cork 89.40 0.00
11 = Armagh 87.31 2.06
12 Laois 87.09 2.71
13 Clare 84.47 0.00
14 = Longford 83.40 0.00
15 = Cavan 83.10 0.00
16 ▲ 4 Kildare 82.12 4.36
17 Meath 80.34 -0.16
18 ▼ 2 Carlow 80.22 -2.71
19 ▼ 2 Down 79.78 -1.39
20 Tipperary 78.86 0.00
21 = Sligo 76.19 0.00
22 ▲ 2 Offaly 73.16 3.53
23 = Westmeath 72.05 -2.06
24 ▼ 2 Derry 69.95 -4.36
25 ▲ 3 Louth 66.88 2.22
26 = Leitrim 66.82 0.00
27 ▼ 2 Antrim 65.86 -3.53
28 ▲ 3 Waterford 63.00 5.43
29 ▼ 2 Wexford 61.28 -5.43
30 Limerick 60.90 0.00
31 Wicklow 60.71 0.00
32 = New York 55.07 0.00
33 = London 51.85 -2.22
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 13, 2018, 09:15:04 AM
I'd say cavan would prefer Brewster, played a lot games there over the years.
There's no other ground in Cavan that could have been used instead of taking it to Enniskillen?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: magpie seanie on June 13, 2018, 11:57:46 AM
Football rankings from Laoisman11 on Boards.ie

It seems Armagh and Laois should be well matched, but we should beat Sligo.



Δ RankTeamRatingΔ Rating
1 = Dublin 108.64 0.00
2 = Galway 103.87 0.00
3 ▲ 2 Tyrone 97.88 0.16
4 Monaghan 97.76 0.00
5 Kerry 97.73 0.00
6 = Mayo 93.93 0.00
7 Donegal 92.94 1.39
8 Roscommon 92.86 0.00
9 = Fermanagh 91.03 0.00
10 = Cork 89.40 0.00
11 = Armagh 87.31 2.06
12 Laois 87.09 2.71
13 Clare 84.47 0.00
14 = Longford 83.40 0.00
15 = Cavan 83.10 0.00
16 ▲ 4 Kildare 82.12 4.36
17 Meath 80.34 -0.16
18 ▼ 2 Carlow 80.22 -2.71
19 ▼ 2 Down 79.78 -1.39
20 Tipperary 78.86 0.00
21 = Sligo 76.19 0.00
22 ▲ 2 Offaly 73.16 3.53
23 = Westmeath 72.05 -2.06
24 ▼ 2 Derry 69.95 -4.36
25 ▲ 3 Louth 66.88 2.22
26 = Leitrim 66.82 0.00
27 ▼ 2 Antrim 65.86 -3.53
28 ▲ 3 Waterford 63.00 5.43
29 ▼ 2 Wexford 61.28 -5.43
30 Limerick 60.90 0.00
31 Wicklow 60.71 0.00
32 = New York 55.07 0.00
33 = London 51.85 -2.22


Wow - Tipperary are really in the wrong place by a good bit in this chart.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 13, 2018, 12:36:51 PM
A lot of teams don't stack up on it. Cavan at No 15 despite promotion to Div 1. Laois 12 despite spending this year in Div 4, Kildare 16 despite playing in Div 1 all year and as you said Tipp.

Whatever mathematical equation he is using it isnt giving an accurate summary of the state of play imo.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 13, 2018, 12:40:28 PM
London below NY...  :o
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 13, 2018, 12:49:46 PM
Load of balls.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on June 13, 2018, 12:50:58 PM
If people insist on a ranking system I would prefer it if they just started with a clean slate
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on June 13, 2018, 01:07:09 PM
How many matches would Armagh need to win to get to the Super 8? Would that be three since the provincial finalist losers need to be added to the mix?

3 more

While this possible, you could beat Sligo, Louth and Lapis say, I'm not sure it would be entirely a good thing. Although you'd have one big game in Armagh.

I agree that we could get exposed in the Super8s but if we want to bridge the gap we need games.

Luck of the draw will play an important factor in the length of our season. We should beat Sligo and really hope we can miss some of the big guns in the following round because them aside there is not a terrible lot likely to come at us that you would be afraid of
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 13, 2018, 01:10:23 PM
A lot of teams don't stack up on it. Cavan at No 15 despite promotion to Div 1. Laois 12 despite spending this year in Div 4, Kildare 16 despite playing in Div 1 all year and as you said Tipp.

Whatever mathematical equation he is using it isnt giving an accurate summary of the state of play imo.

It is not only based on the last game, but on a period of time, and Laois would have benefitted from winning Div 4.
I'd say that Tipperary are a bit out of place, but they may not recover if Mayo beat them.
NY are above London because they only lost one game, so this is a complete outlier as NY don't play any other games.

The GAA knockout format makes a ranking hard, a team could win three games against middle of the road opposition and improve its ranking, as  Armagh did last year.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 13, 2018, 01:23:10 PM
I'd say cavan would prefer Brewster, played a lot games there over the years.
There's no other ground in Cavan that could have been used instead of taking it to Enniskillen?

Kingscourt has previously held league games in the past however with all these silly new H&S rules it is nearly impossible to host a game in a club ground if you get more than 5k at it. No more than in Sligo, you wouldnt be anywhere near able to host a championship game in Enniscrone or Tubbercurry
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 13, 2018, 01:38:28 PM
Why rip it up at the height of summer?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 13, 2018, 01:57:17 PM
Why rip it up at the height of summer?

Being Cavan, it is probably cheaper.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: joemamas on June 13, 2018, 02:17:55 PM
I have another Q, why did the football schedulers not have qualifiers this weekend and have a break next weekend as if a team qualifies from the qualifiers to super 8, will end up playing weekend of June 23, July 30, July 7, July 14.


Four games in a row is difficult, six out of seven weekends is crazy.

I am certain the media will have a field day with it as super 8 progress.
You would be inclined to feel the provincial winners will be in a very strong position to make semi-finals.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: westbound on June 13, 2018, 02:59:26 PM
I have another Q, why did the football schedulers not have qualifiers this weekend and have a break next weekend as if a team qualifies from the qualifiers to super 8, will end up playing weekend of June 23, July 30, July 7, July 14.


Four games in a row is difficult, six out of seven weekends is crazy.

I am certain the media will have a field day with it as super 8 progress.
You would be inclined to feel the provincial winners will be in a very strong position to make semi-finals.

To avoid 6 day turnaround for Down, Laois and Carlow.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 13, 2018, 03:42:56 PM
I have another Q, why did the football schedulers not have qualifiers this weekend and have a break next weekend as if a team qualifies from the qualifiers to super 8, will end up playing weekend of June 23, July 30, July 7, July 14.


Four games in a row is difficult, six out of seven weekends is crazy.

I am certain the media will have a field day with it as super 8 progress.
You would be inclined to feel the provincial winners will be in a very strong position to make semi-finals.

To avoid 6 day turnaround for Down, Laois and Carlow.

Munster ccc could learn a thing or two.....
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 13, 2018, 03:45:46 PM
Why rip it up at the height of summer?

Being Cavan, it is probably cheaper.

Best joke ever.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 13, 2018, 03:46:42 PM
Why rip it up at the height of summer?

Might have something to do with when the grass grows, i.e. not in winter?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 04:09:44 PM
Maybe Cavan just didn’t expect to get this far in the championship.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: joemamas on June 13, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
I have another Q, why did the football schedulers not have qualifiers this weekend and have a break next weekend as if a team qualifies from the qualifiers to super 8, will end up playing weekend of June 23, July 30, July 7, July 14.


Four games in a row is difficult, six out of seven weekends is crazy.

I am certain the media will have a field day with it as super 8 progress.
You would be inclined to feel the provincial winners will be in a very strong position to make semi-finals.

To avoid 6 day turnaround for Down, Laois and Carlow.

Didn't  all the potential opponents for Down Laois and Carlow, also have a six day turnaround as they all played last weekend ?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 04:47:23 PM
I have another Q, why did the football schedulers not have qualifiers this weekend and have a break next weekend as if a team qualifies from the qualifiers to super 8, will end up playing weekend of June 23, July 30, July 7, July 14.


Four games in a row is difficult, six out of seven weekends is crazy.

I am certain the media will have a field day with it as super 8 progress.
You would be inclined to feel the provincial winners will be in a very strong position to make semi-finals.

To avoid 6 day turnaround for Down, Laois and Carlow.

Didn't  all the potential opponents for Down Laois and Carlow, also have a six day turnaround as they all played last weekend ?

Uhhhh.. bit of a difference between coming off a win in six days and coming off a loss. Kind of mad that you’d try to defend the six day turnaround honestly.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 13, 2018, 05:47:26 PM
Why rip it up at the height of summer?

Being Cavan, it is probably cheaper.

Best joke ever.

Thanks. ;)

Why rip it up at the height of summer?

Might have something to do with when the grass grows, i.e. not in winter?

Actually the best times for re-seeding for grass is in spring or autumn.  On both occasions there is little in the way of weed seed to affect the quality of the new sward.  Spring is ruled out because of our poor weather, so re-seed in autumn for best results and have a healthy sward going into winter.

BTW it is cheaper in summer for some if they don't need to use as much fertiliser.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 13, 2018, 06:05:17 PM
Now.
Back in your bosca, Itchy.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 13, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
Now.
Back in your bosca, Itchy.

Ye are the experts with all that grass on your banks. By time it's seeded it will be coming into autumn I'm sure. League was on in spring hence not option then.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on June 13, 2018, 07:16:00 PM
Now.
Back in your bosca, Itchy.

Ye are the experts with all that grass on your banks. By time it's seeded it will be coming into autumn I'm sure. League was on in spring hence not option then.

Actually the best method of re-seeding is to direct drill the grass seed into the existing turf is to have a quick spray of paraquat to kill off the grass on the surface but to leave the roots to continue to bind the top soil until the new sward takes over. This keeps a harder surface which would otherwise become soft through traditional ploughing and cultivation to produce a fine till into which the seed is sown. Direct seeding a bit more expensive.

So, Breffini will probably be re-seeded by traditional methods using some boy with a wee red Massey and a two score plough.

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Stall the Bailer on June 13, 2018, 07:22:43 PM
I'm guessing with club championships in the autumn time the summer is the least disruptive to games for this work.

Not sure what they are doing, but if there is any drainage or leveling work, direct seeding wouldn't be suitable.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 13, 2018, 08:23:04 PM
Ithcy what are Sligo going to do next year then when Markivich is being done? Like you say Tubber and Enniscrone can't hold a championship game, I'd even be surprised if Tubber was up to a league game.

Also regarding that list from Laoisman, it's brilliant. While from week to week you will see anomalies at the end of the summer it's usually spot on. London being so much lower than NY is probably as a result of losing a load of points from a bad league, something NY can't do so that's not the author of the things fault. Honestly, he'd be as well leaving NY off it altogether apart from using them to judge for the 1 game a year they play.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 14, 2018, 10:51:03 PM
Didn't hear Sligo were doing their pitch. Would they have an option to play in ballyshannon?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 14, 2018, 11:08:08 PM
Honestly don't know. The missus would have a better idea of the inner workings. She told me it was being closed for something but I wasn't paying much attention.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 18, 2018, 10:45:38 AM
Going to have a stab at picking next week winners which if correct could have some huge clashes in round 3.

Armagh
Mayo
Kildare
Cavan
Louth
Monaghan
Clare
Tyrone

Tyrone cannot play Monahan in rd 3
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 18, 2018, 10:47:37 AM
Honestly don't know. The missus would have a better idea of the inner workings. She told me it was being closed for something but I wasn't paying much attention.

 ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 18, 2018, 10:55:54 AM
Ithcy what are Sligo going to do next year then when Markivich is being done? Like you say Tubber and Enniscrone can't hold a championship game, I'd even be surprised if Tubber was up to a league game.

Also regarding that list from Laoisman, it's brilliant. While from week to week you will see anomalies at the end of the summer it's usually spot on. London being so much lower than NY is probably as a result of losing a load of points from a bad league, something NY can't do so that's not the author of the things fault. Honestly, he'd be as well leaving NY off it altogether apart from using them to judge for the 1 game a year they play.
For all the crowd that ever turn up to our league games it would be able for it, Tourlestrane and Enniscrone too. If they ever went about doing up Ballymote properly it'd be able but the non-vesting issue would probably put paid to that anyway.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2018, 11:11:34 AM
I suppose I'd better start taking an interest in this thread now :-\
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2018, 11:24:56 AM
I suppose I'd better start taking an interest in this thread now :-\

Yip, you'd be safer.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 18, 2018, 11:27:24 AM
I suppose I'd better start taking an interest in this thread now :-\

Welcome back. Missed each other last year in the backdoor.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 18, 2018, 04:00:40 PM
Ithcy what are Sligo going to do next year then when Markivich is being done? Like you say Tubber and Enniscrone can't hold a championship game, I'd even be surprised if Tubber was up to a league game.

Also regarding that list from Laoisman, it's brilliant. While from week to week you will see anomalies at the end of the summer it's usually spot on. London being so much lower than NY is probably as a result of losing a load of points from a bad league, something NY can't do so that's not the author of the things fault. Honestly, he'd be as well leaving NY off it altogether apart from using them to judge for the 1 game a year they play.
For all the crowd that ever turn up to our league games it would be able for it, Tourlestrane and Enniscrone too. If they ever went about doing up Ballymote properly it'd be able but the non-vesting issue would probably put paid to that anyway.

Aye they'd be well able for the crowds, I just wonder is there minimal standards of facilities for intercounty games, like a certain amount of seats, disabled access, toilets, parking etc.

If they were able to spread the home league games out around the clubs I think it could be great for a year and might see a boost in the numbers.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 18, 2018, 04:56:32 PM
Ithcy what are Sligo going to do next year then when Markivich is being done? Like you say Tubber and Enniscrone can't hold a championship game, I'd even be surprised if Tubber was up to a league game.

Also regarding that list from Laoisman, it's brilliant. While from week to week you will see anomalies at the end of the summer it's usually spot on. London being so much lower than NY is probably as a result of losing a load of points from a bad league, something NY can't do so that's not the author of the things fault. Honestly, he'd be as well leaving NY off it altogether apart from using them to judge for the 1 game a year they play.
For all the crowd that ever turn up to our league games it would be able for it, Tourlestrane and Enniscrone too. If they ever went about doing up Ballymote properly it'd be able but the non-vesting issue would probably put paid to that anyway.

Aye they'd be well able for the crowds, I just wonder is there minimal standards of facilities for intercounty games, like a certain amount of seats, disabled access, toilets, parking etc.

If they were able to spread the home league games out around the clubs I think it could be great for a year and might see a boost in the numbers.

Yes the whole thing is the facility to evacuate the ground in a certain time for insurance reasons. It requires money being spent that many counties don't have.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 18, 2018, 05:03:09 PM
Fairly easy to get out of the Tubber stand, the training pitch is right behind it. I don't think there's any exits to the whole facility though apart form the front gate.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2018, 05:57:25 PM
I suppose I'd better start taking an interest in this thread now :-\

Welcome back. Missed each other last year in the backdoor.
We're fated to meet in Round 4 probably in bloody Salthill
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 18, 2018, 11:39:36 PM
It’s a pity that the provincial imbalance is compounded in the qualifiers.

Carlow win 2 and go into Round 2 after losing their 3rd game while Roscommon win 1 and go into Round 4 after losing their 2nd game.

Carlow beat a Division 1 and a Division 2 team while Roscommon beat a Division 4 team.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2018, 11:46:15 PM
Do you want to abolish the Provincials?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 18, 2018, 11:58:39 PM
No, I think we should retain the provincials with the winners advancing to AI Semi-Finals as of old.
The provincials and Sam Maguire Cup would be a straight knockout competition and secondary to an amalgamated NFL & Super 8s.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 19, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
So despite complaining about Provincial inequalities you want them retained and strengthened by reverting to the old 1887 to 2000 system?
Isn't Div 1 the NFL "super 8"?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 19, 2018, 01:06:03 PM
I'd keep the provincials too but have them as a stand alone competition. Do away with all the preseason stuff and have the league, the provincials and the all Ireland running one after the other.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: bamboo on June 23, 2018, 02:41:35 PM
Monaghan 3-11 to 0-4 at HT
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 23, 2018, 04:01:43 PM
Big win for Monahan today similar to mayo against limericks lots of goals,does nothing for the losers.
Roll on round three where meaningful matches should arise, still could be surprises today.
Longford,tipp, Sligo.???
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 23, 2018, 04:15:32 PM
From following the updates it seems that Monaghan got a run on them early and when that happens it can get messy. It can be a tough place to go if they keep in touch.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 23, 2018, 04:24:08 PM
Big win for Monahan today similar to mayo against limericks lots of goals,does nothing for the losers.
Roll on round three where meaningful matches should arise, still could be surprises today.
Longford,tipp, Sligo.???
Didn't Mayo score a load of late goals to make it look better than it was? Monaghan and Galway had Sligo and Waterford beaten by half time. Longford like the qualifiers the most likely team to cause a surprise today i'd reckon.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 23, 2018, 04:27:27 PM
Not really a surprise if all the pundits are predicting a Longford win.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 23, 2018, 06:40:11 PM
Cavan beat Down by 2.
Sounds like there were 'unsavoury' scenes at the final whistle.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 23, 2018, 06:43:03 PM
Two straight reds for Cavan after the final whistle!
Cormac Reilly doing the Lord's work.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 06:43:38 PM
Monaghan, Cavan, Tyrone and Mayo through. Sligo drawing with Armagh at half time.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
Two straight reds for Cavan after the final whistle!
Cormac Reilly doing the Lord's work.

Who?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 23, 2018, 06:45:10 PM
McVeety and Moynagh.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
McVeety and Moynagh.

Bad job that for the next round. Anyword what happened?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 23, 2018, 06:49:58 PM
Nope.
On the radio they reckoned McGleenan was up-ended by someone in the middle of it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
Nope.
On the radio they reckoned McGleenan was up-ended by someone in the middle of it.

Listening to Northern sound now to see if I can hear about it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on June 23, 2018, 08:22:52 PM
Was not expecting Leitrim to beat Louth and Kildare look like they might be out to
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 23, 2018, 08:27:37 PM
Everyone will be praying for Cork in r4
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 23, 2018, 09:50:46 PM
Unless mayo draw either Tyrone  or Monahan it looks very likely that these 3 will be definite for the super 8s.roscommon may be the only beaten finalist that may give a good account of themselves and that because of their good forwards.
Leitrim will be the team of choice in round 3 hope they get clare or offal who  wouldn't be too hard on them.i hope!!


Armagh
Mayo
Kildare
Cavan
Leitrim
Monaghan
Tyrone
Clare or  offaly

Tyrone cannot play Monahan in rd 3
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on June 23, 2018, 10:39:09 PM
So who can be drawn in the next round?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2018, 10:43:52 PM
So who can be drawn in the next round?

The only fixture not allowed is Tyrone v Monaghan.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on June 23, 2018, 10:46:28 PM
So who can be drawn in the next round?

The only fixture not allowed is Tyrone v Monaghan.

Are the losing provincial finalists in the draw?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
So who can be drawn in the next round?

The only fixture not allowed is Tyrone v Monaghan.

Are the losing provincial finalists in the draw?

This weeks draw is Round 3.

Losing provincial finalists join in Round 4.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on June 23, 2018, 10:53:29 PM
So who can be drawn in the next round?

The only fixture not allowed is Tyrone v Monaghan.

Are the losing provincial finalists in the draw?

This weeks draw is Round 3.

Losing provincial finalists join in Round 4.

Thanks
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on June 23, 2018, 10:53:45 PM
Round 3 will be these 8 teams playing against each other

Armagh
Mayo
Kildare
Cavan
Leitrim
Monaghan
Tyrone
Clare/Offaly

Tyrone cannot play Monaghan in rd 3 because they already played each other at the provincial stage.

Monaghan (3)
Tyrone (4)
Mayo (6)
Kildare (8)
Cavan (10)
Armagh (17)
Leitrim (29)
Clare (11)/Offaly (22)

The four teams who win will be drawn against the four provincial final losers - so far Roscommon (9) and Cork (14) are there and 2 from Dublin (2)/Laois (25)  and Donegal (7)/Fermanagh(18)

The numbers after the teams are where each team finished after the regular league series of games.

If we assume the team that finished highest in the league will win their games, the 4 sides to go into Round 4 will be

Monaghan (3)
Tyrone (4)
Mayo (6)
Kildare (8)

and the four provincial losers going into Round 4 will be

Roscommon (9)
Cork (14)
Fermanagh(18)
Laois (25)


The 2 Super 8 groups would be

Galway (1)
Kerry (5)

Dublin (2)
Donegal (7)

and 2 each from the following 4 into both groups

Monaghan (3)
Tyrone (4)
Mayo (6)
Kildare (8)

This assumes no upset between now and the Super 8 stage.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2018, 11:07:45 PM
Round 3 draw can scupper any seedings.  Tyrone/Mayo or Mayo/Monaghan pairings could see a big team gone early enough.  Cavan under the radar a bit?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2018, 11:19:13 PM
On today's showing the only teams cavan wwould beat are leitrim or maybe clare/offaly. Would be a great draw for anyone else, especially with mcvitty suspended
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 23, 2018, 11:22:20 PM
Nope.
On the radio they reckoned McGleenan was up-ended by someone in the middle of it.

Mcgleenan wasn't anywhere near it. Load of handbags and I didn't see a punch thrown but of course cormac did. Mind you he had really screwed Down in the match. A terrible refereeing performance, I used to think he was decent once upon a time but he needs to hang up his whistle now.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 23, 2018, 11:49:34 PM
In order of preference, I'd have

Leitrim
Armagh
Clare/offaly
Kildare
Cavan
Tyrone
Monaghan

Monaghan are the team I'd really like to avoid
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 01:51:51 AM
I presume the Div 3,4 teams are entitled to home advantage for this round 3 draw also?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Oraisteach on June 24, 2018, 02:13:37 AM
Macdanger, forgive me, but what’s your County?  I’d like Armagh to avoid Monaghan and Mayo. An Armagh vs Tyrone matchup would be a heated affair, especially in light of the U20 fracas.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 24, 2018, 02:27:43 AM
Macdanger, forgive me, but what’s your County?  I’d like Armagh to avoid Monaghan and Mayo. An Armagh vs Tyrone matchup would be a heated affair, especially in light of the U20 fracas.

I'm a mayo man. Tbh my opinion of Armagh is probably coloured by the tone of some of the Armagh threads on here where there doesn't seem to be huge faith in yourselves. In truth, outside of Leitrim and Monaghan / Tyrone, the other four are probably much of a muchness imo
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 07:50:31 AM
Macdanger, forgive me, but what’s your County?  I’d like Armagh to avoid Monaghan and Mayo. An Armagh vs Tyrone matchup would be a heated affair, especially in light of the U20 fracas.
I think it was Ger Gilroy who said Armagh v Tyrone is like India v Pakistan
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 07:52:15 AM
Carlow are gone but at least they left us with this :

https://youtu.be/e4axZz2TpZE
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 24, 2018, 08:50:52 AM
Armagh getting Mayo and giving them a game wouldn't be the worst outcome of the draw.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 24, 2018, 08:53:23 AM
Armagh getting Mayo and giving them a game wouldn't be the worst outcome of the draw.

It would be in the AG? Does that rule still apply
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 24, 2018, 08:54:21 AM
Armagh getting Mayo and giving them a game wouldn't be the worst outcome of the draw.

It would be in the AG? Does that rule still apply

Yes for round 3.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 01:07:06 PM
Armagh getting Mayo and giving them a game wouldn't be the worst outcome of the draw.

Drawing the short straw is no use and moral victories are no good either. This Armagh side needs more games and wins and drawing Leitrim,Offaly,Clare,Kildare or Cavan wouldn't be the worst outcome of the draw
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 01:12:20 PM
Apart from Leitrim the usual suspects won. This is the logic of the qualifiers . Kildare now have a 2 match unbeaten run rather than a 10 match losing streak. Maybe losing in May doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Emmett on June 24, 2018, 06:46:29 PM
Donegal are a very good side and will be hard to stop.

What way does the next round of the qualifiers work? Can Fermanagh have a home draw etc....
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 24, 2018, 06:50:26 PM
Donegal are a very good side and will be hard to stop.

What way does the next round of the qualifiers work? Can Fermanagh have a home draw etc....

Next round is round 3. Fermanagh are in round 4. Possibly at Croke Park
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on June 24, 2018, 07:16:48 PM
Tyrone vs Kildare
Mayo vs Monaghan
Armagh vs Clare
Leitrim vs Cavan
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 24, 2018, 07:48:08 PM
Tyrone vs Kildare
Mayo vs Monaghan
Armagh vs Clare
Leitrim vs Cavan

That would do, one 'big' game, a couple of competitive ones and  not too far to travel for Cavan folk.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
100% a black card for McKernan and I think that particular rule re abusing the officials should be rigidly enforced.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Schkite on June 24, 2018, 10:10:11 PM
Tyrone vs Kildare
Mayo vs Monaghan
Armagh vs Clare
Leitrim vs Cavan

That would do, one 'big' game, a couple of competitive ones and  not too far to travel for Cavan folk.

I'm sure that draw would do for an Armagh fan!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Over the Bar on June 24, 2018, 10:12:39 PM
Macdanger, forgive me, but what’s your County?  I’d like Armagh to avoid Monaghan and Mayo.An Armagh vs Tyrone matchup would be a heated affair, especially in light of the U20 fracas.
So you think Armagh will start a fracas to take the attention off another hammering then?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 24, 2018, 10:36:41 PM
100% a black card for McKernan and I think that particular rule re abusing the officials should be rigidly enforced.

He was hilarious, “you just want to get on the Sunday game”. 100% the right decision and also the right decision to black card the first lad. It’s hardly the linesman fault he did a completely unnecessary hand trip for absolutely no reason
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
I know the game was practically over but McKiernan instigated the row at the end by goading his opponent twice.
Another black card offence.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 24, 2018, 11:35:48 PM
I know the game was practically over but McKiernan instigated the row at the end by goading his opponent twice.
Another black card offence.

Very unlike gearoid. He must've been getting abuse himself during the match. He's often targeted by the opposition spoiler
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 11:39:38 PM
I've 100% no doubt he was reacting to previous behaviour by the Down defender, but the victory should have been sufficient vindication.
Just shake his hand and ask him what his holiday plans are.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 24, 2018, 11:40:12 PM
I know the game was practically over but McKiernan instigated the row at the end by goading his opponent twice.
Another black card offence.

Very unlike gearoid. He must've been getting abuse himself during the match. He's often targeted by the opposition spoiler

Gearoid has history. Remember his behaviour against Monaghan?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 24, 2018, 11:55:45 PM
I know the game was practically over but McKiernan instigated the row at the end by goading his opponent twice.
Another black card offence.

Very unlike gearoid. He must've been getting abuse himself during the match. He's often targeted by the opposition spoiler

Gearoid has history. Remember his behaviour against Monaghan?

True but for years I was looking to see him give someone a slap as he allowed himself took out of a game by rough treatment from opposition players. I give him a pass based on that but he needs to get smarter than that. I could see our lads get off those reds as I see no striking whatsoever
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 11:59:06 PM
I saw at least two Down players throwing punches anyway, but they stick out a mile in the red jerseys.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2018, 12:05:39 AM
I saw at least two Down players throwing punches anyway, but they stick out a mile in the red jerseys.

Saw that alright but haven't seen one Cavan punch. And have watched it back few times.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2018, 12:23:55 AM
I saw at least two Down players throwing punches anyway, but they stick out a mile in the red jerseys.

Saw that alright but haven't seen one Cavan punch. And have watched it back few times.

A Cavan man wouldn't even give you a thump.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 12:26:07 AM
If he did, he'd expect two in return.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Stan Laurel on June 25, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Macdanger, forgive me, but what’s your County?  I’d like Armagh to avoid Monaghan and Mayo.An Armagh vs Tyrone matchup would be a heated affair, especially in light of the U20 fracas.
So you think Armagh will start a fracas to take the attention off another hammering then?

Maybe Tyrone should have started one against Dublin, oh no they would have been hammered out the gate twice.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 25, 2018, 08:29:48 AM
I've 100% no doubt he was reacting to previous behaviour by the Down defender, but the victory should have been sufficient vindication.
Just shake his hand and ask him what his holiday plans are.

Easier said than done at times
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Schkite on June 25, 2018, 08:39:09 AM
Kildare v Mayo
Armagh v Clare
Leitrim v Monaghan
Cavan v Tyrone
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 25, 2018, 08:39:38 AM
Armagh v Clare
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: our_fella on June 25, 2018, 08:46:10 AM
2 TV slots available next Sat. Since they've already shown tyrone and mayo, possibly Armagh v clare as 1 of them? All on sat or possibly Sunday?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 25, 2018, 08:47:10 AM
Kildare v Mayo
Armagh v Clare
Leitrim v Monaghan
Cavan v Tyrone

Straightforward wins for Monaghan,Tyrone and Mayo it should be. Armagh v Clare the only tough games to call.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 08:48:43 AM
That draw will do grand for Armagh.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 25, 2018, 08:49:31 AM
Difficult game for Mayo.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on June 25, 2018, 08:50:46 AM
I'd say it won't even take 5 minutes to decide that the Kildare v Mayo and Cavan v Tyrone games will be the live games.

Is Newbridge perfectly fine to take the Kildare v Mayo game?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2018, 08:50:58 AM
Kildare v Mayo
Armagh v Clare
Leitrim v Monaghan
Cavan v Tyrone

Straightforward wins for Monaghan,Kildare and Mayo it should be. Armagh v Clare the only tough games to call.

Straight forward wins for Mayo and Kildare?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 25, 2018, 08:52:09 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 25, 2018, 08:57:41 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?

And nor can Armagh or Fermanagh. If we were to beat Clare
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: skeog on June 25, 2018, 08:59:52 AM
Mattie be over the moon meeting his native county.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
Mayo should have too much for Kildare. Even with their injuries.

Monaghan to beat Leitrim.

Cavan could surprise Tyrone.

Fancy Clare to take Armagh at home.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on June 25, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
Mayo should have too much for Kildare. Even with their injuries.

Monaghan to beat Leitrim.

Cavan could surprise Tyrone.

Fancy Clare to take Armagh at home.
Kinda thinking along the same lines. Cavan very dangerous coming off a win playing relatively poorly. There's a performance in them.

I thought Armagh are at home?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2018, 09:06:20 AM
Mayo should have too much for Kildare. Even with their injuries.

Monaghan to beat Leitrim.

Cavan could surprise Tyrone.

Fancy Clare to take Armagh at home.

The only suprise Cavan will give Tyrone is that they are playing so badly. Tyrone will win this game easy I am afraid.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 25, 2018, 09:07:06 AM
Mayo should have too much for Kildare. Even with their injuries.

Monaghan to beat Leitrim.

Cavan could surprise Tyrone.

Fancy Clare to take Armagh at home.
Kinda thinking along the same lines. Cavan very dangerous coming off a win playing relatively poorly. There's a performance in them.

I thought Armagh are at home?

We are at home. Will be a big ask to beat Clare. Think we are capable of it but depends on how we, and they, set up
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on June 25, 2018, 09:07:28 AM
Don't forget Armagh have home advantage!!!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2018, 09:08:06 AM
Mayo should have too much for Kildare. Even with their injuries.

Monaghan to beat Leitrim.

Cavan could surprise Tyrone.

Fancy Clare to take Armagh at home.

The only suprise Cavan will give Tyrone is that they are playing so badly. Tyrone will win this game easy I am afraid.

Tyrone by 15+
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Stan Laurel on June 25, 2018, 09:08:49 AM
Don't forget Armagh have home advantage!!!

Are you sure?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2018, 09:11:48 AM
Don't forget Armagh have home advantage!!!

Are you sure?

Yeah as a division 3 team they do.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 25, 2018, 09:15:53 AM
Don't forget Armagh have home advantage!!!

How Clare set up will have more of a bearing. We ant play very well against defensive teams. I’ve seen very very little of Clare. Do they play defensive blanket style or do they like to attack more?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 25, 2018, 09:18:01 AM
Kildare v Mayo
Armagh v Clare
Leitrim v Monaghan
Cavan v Tyrone

Straightforward wins for Monaghan,Kildare and Mayo it should be. Armagh v Clare the only tough games to call.

Straight forward wins for Mayo and Kildare?
Tyrone. A straight forward defeat for Kildare.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mup on June 25, 2018, 09:29:06 AM
Mayo should have too much for Kildare. Even with their injuries.

Monaghan to beat Leitrim.

Cavan could surprise Tyrone.

Fancy Clare to take Armagh at home.
Kinda thinking along the same lines. Cavan very dangerous coming off a win playing relatively poorly. There's a performance in them.

I thought Armagh are at home?

Are they? Ok well that changes that so. Home advantage to swing it Armaghs way.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on June 25, 2018, 09:30:28 AM
I'm happy with the draw for Armagh, and it gives us a fighting chance.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: trailer on June 25, 2018, 09:31:51 AM
I'm happy with the draw for Armagh, and it gives us a fighting chance.

It only prolongs the inevitable. A hammering is coming their way.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 25, 2018, 09:32:11 AM
I'm happy with the draw for Armagh, and it gives us a fighting chance.
Ye've had quiet enough of that for this year
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 25, 2018, 09:32:51 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?

Two injuries both midfielders. While a Keegan,D O Connor midfield pairing will likely cause Kildare all types of problems. Mayo 1-19 Kildare 1-12 in St Conleth's Park, Newbridge already this year would expect something similar for this game.

Cavan v Tyrone would have been more interesting if Cavan didn't have players suspended and if they had a home game. Clare Armagh two sides around the same level though home advantage should shade it for Armagh.  Monaghan by 10 plus points
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 25, 2018, 09:34:44 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?

Two injuries both midfielders. While a Keegan,D O Connor midfield pairing will likely cause Kildare all types of problems. Mayo 1-19 Kildare 1-12 in St Conleth's Park, Newbridge already this year would expect something similar for this game.

Cavan v Tyrone would have been more interesting if Cavan didn't have players suspended and if they had a home game. Clare Armagh two sides around the same level though home advantage should shade it for Armagh.  Monaghan by 10 plus points

I take it that Tyrone v Cavan game is likely to be Brewster park?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 09:37:41 AM
I expect Higgins and boyle to be injured in freak domestic accidents/hurling misfortunes  by the weekend as Mayo's injury crisis deepens. Rochford will be forced to strategise without a midfield and drive GAA management into new territory. As the competition continues the rest of the backs will be removed from the equation as the forwards are forced to learn how to score more.

 Mayo should beat the flour bags unless they go away on a team building exercise and watch the wizard of Oz on repeat

https://youtu.be/nFuxpphnN0k

Clare could beat Armagh. Clare are limited but they make good use of what they have.

Tyrone probably have Cavan beaten already. Tyrone may actually be the Wizard of Oz.

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 10:03:38 AM
Monaghan have had 2 dream draws to date, another turkey shoot awaits them.

Kildare v Mayo is interesting, I don't think Kildare are that far off the top teams and being at home against a Mayo side with miles on the clock and a growing casualty list, they definitely have a chance. This will be the tie of the round.

Armagh also got a decent draw being at home to Clare. It's a 50/50 match but home advantage might be enough to sway it Armagh's way.

Cavan v Tyrone is another interesting match and similar to Kildare v Mayo, with the match likely in Breffni Park I think the underdog has a chance to cause a mild upset. Tyrone have regressed this year and it wouldn't surprise me to see them ditched out here.

Prediction: Monaghan, Mayo, Armagh & Cavan.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 10:05:43 AM
Don't forget Armagh have home advantage!!!

How Clare set up will have more of a bearing. We ant play very well against defensive teams. I’ve seen very very little of Clare. Do they play defensive blanket style or do they like to attack more?

The fact that Kerry scored 32 points in 70 minutes should be enough to answer your question, almost a score every 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2018, 10:11:22 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?

Two injuries both midfielders. While a Keegan,D O Connor midfield pairing will likely cause Kildare all types of problems. Mayo 1-19 Kildare 1-12 in St Conleth's Park, Newbridge already this year would expect something similar for this game.

Cavan v Tyrone would have been more interesting if Cavan didn't have players suspended and if they had a home game. Clare Armagh two sides around the same level though home advantage should shade it for Armagh.  Monaghan by 10 plus points

I take it that Tyrone v Cavan game is likely to be Brewster park?

Clones is Cavsns designated home ground.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:13:07 AM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2018, 10:13:21 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?

Two injuries both midfielders. While a Keegan,D O Connor midfield pairing will likely cause Kildare all types of problems. Mayo 1-19 Kildare 1-12 in St Conleth's Park, Newbridge already this year would expect something similar for this game.

Cavan v Tyrone would have been more interesting if Cavan didn't have players suspended and if they had a home game. Clare Armagh two sides around the same level though home advantage should shade it for Armagh.  Monaghan by 10 plus points

I take it that Tyrone v Cavan game is likely to be Brewster park?

Perhaps Clones would be best this time. Plenty of room for everyone and the pitch is in great nick.

The fact that Kerry scored 32 points in 70 minutes should be enough to answer your question, almost a score every 2 minutes.

Let's hope Armagh are half as good as Kerry and we can score 16, while keeping Clare to less than that.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
Kildare v mayo standout game, mayo with a lot of injuries kildare slowly building up a head of steam.
Home advantage to shade it for kildare???
As for the others Tyrone ,monaghan,Armagh.
Am I right in saying fermanagh and Monahan can't meet in round 4?

Two injuries both midfielders. While a Keegan,D O Connor midfield pairing will likely cause Kildare all types of problems. Mayo 1-19 Kildare 1-12 in St Conleth's Park, Newbridge already this year would expect something similar for this game.

Cavan v Tyrone would have been more interesting if Cavan didn't have players suspended and if they had a home game. Clare Armagh two sides around the same level though home advantage should shade it for Armagh.  Monaghan by 10 plus points

I take it that Tyrone v Cavan game is likely to be Brewster park?

Clones is Cavsns designated home ground.

Well that changes it slightly, Tyrone have  a decent record there also. It will be tight but this match could go either way.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 10:24:07 AM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.

Winner of Armagh v Clare will be the one that the provincial losers will be hoping for.

It is still probable (depending on the draw) that the super 8's could be made up of 7 division one sides. Which shows just how entirely predictable the early stages of the championship are. The League is still the best indicator of form and ranking. 
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 10:26:22 AM
Which is exactly the way it should be.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Gmac on June 25, 2018, 10:36:25 AM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.

Winner of Armagh v Clare will be the one that the provincial losers will be hoping for.

It is still probable (depending on the draw) that the super 8's could be made up of 7 division one sides. Which shows just how entirely predictable the early stages of the championship are. The League is still the best indicator of form and ranking.
was this a completely random draw ? Looks a bit suspicious if not
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:39:20 AM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.

Winner of Armagh v Clare will be the one that the provincial losers will be hoping for.

It is still probable (depending on the draw) that the super 8's could be made up of 7 division one sides. Which shows just how entirely predictable the early stages of the championship are. The League is still the best indicator of form and ranking.

Shock horror that the best teams win more matches. I don’t think this is half as incisive as you think it is.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2018, 10:45:07 AM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.

Winner of Armagh v Clare will be the one that the provincial losers will be hoping for.

Fermanagh cannot get Armagh or Monaghan, so if Armagh win then Fermanagh are going to get Mayo/Kildare or Cavan/Tyrone.
Consequently, the other provincial losers have a better chance of getting Armagh, if they beat Clare.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: yellowcard on June 25, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.

Winner of Armagh v Clare will be the one that the provincial losers will be hoping for.

It is still probable (depending on the draw) that the super 8's could be made up of 7 division one sides. Which shows just how entirely predictable the early stages of the championship are. The League is still the best indicator of form and ranking.

Shock horror that the best teams win more matches. I don’t think this is half as incisive as you think it is.

I'm not particularly claiming incisiveness merely making an observation.

I would argue that there is a top 10 with 4 counties yo-yoing between divisions 1 and 2 and most people would have picked 8 out of these 10 teams as being their super 8 predictions at the outset which looks like it could come to fruition. 
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2018, 10:59:04 AM
As I pointed out in the Super 8 thread, there is a huge amount of luck of the draw about who can make it. You could easily of had Monaghan v Cavan and Tyrone v Mayo in the qualifiers which would straight away open the door to 2 Div2/3 teams possibly getting in there and then we'd have people saying the league tells you nothing.

Its serious luck that many of the big teams got such fortunate draws, again.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: shark on June 25, 2018, 11:56:01 AM
As I pointed out in the Super 8 thread, there is a huge amount of luck of the draw about who can make it. You could easily of had Monaghan v Cavan and Tyrone v Mayo in the qualifiers which would straight away open the door to 2 Div2/3 teams possibly getting in there and then we'd have people saying the league tells you nothing.

Its serious luck that many of the big teams got such fortunate draws, again.

Luck  ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 12:05:13 PM
"Could easily of had"
Red card Itchy >:(
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on June 25, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Other than Roscommon, I'm struggling to make the case for any other provincial loser getting into the Super 8s.

Winner of Armagh v Clare will be the one that the provincial losers will be hoping for.

It is still probable (depending on the draw) that the super 8's could be made up of 7 division one sides. Which shows just how entirely predictable the early stages of the championship are. The League is still the best indicator of form and ranking.
was this a completely random draw ? Looks a bit suspicious if not

Why? Had it have been Mayo v Tyrone or Monaghan people would still say fix. I think it's an Irish phenomena. Everything's a bloody fix,  so long as it disadvantages my sports team.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 25, 2018, 12:58:35 PM
"Could easily of had"
Red card Itchy >:(

Its only a black for shite grammar. Correcting shite grammar however is a straight red.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on June 25, 2018, 01:20:51 PM
"Could easily of had"
Red card Itchy >:(

Its only a black for shite grammar. Correcting shite grammar however is a straight red.

Break it up!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Westside on June 25, 2018, 01:26:11 PM
"Could easily of had"
Red card Itchy >:(

Its only a black for shite grammar. Correcting shite grammar however is a straight red.

Break it up!

Third man in, straight red.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 01:34:28 PM
Can I appeal?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Dire Ear on June 25, 2018, 01:37:47 PM
Straight read??   ;D
Mayo--Monaghan--Tyrone--Clare
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:42:09 PM
"Could easily of had"
Red card Itchy >:(

Can you prove it was actually Itchy that typed that?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 25, 2018, 03:19:44 PM
"Could easily of had"
Red card Itchy >:(

Can you prove it was actually Itchy that typed that?
Itchy could have been distracted at the time by Laoislad's world Cup photo. Pheromones are known for that
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Fuzzman on June 25, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
We as GAA fans sure are awkward.
So many people talking about poor games and so many walk overs and its all about the elite 8 now blah blah blah.

Has it not always been the same that the last 8 get to the quarterfinals or 4 provincial finals before that.
Yes we all like to see the odd shock result and big gun getting a knock back but it is getting rarer and rarer but that was inevitable as the bigger counties use their resources better, especially the Dubs.

For some people they seem unhappy that they best 7 or 8 teams will make the super 8s.
Yes for us Ulster moanies we always find it hard to take that Dublin and Kerry can get to the last 8 with very little effort and even Mayo or Galway recently have had it handy whereas Ulster is a minefield with usually 3 big teams gunning for it.

Fermanagh had their chance yesterday and they just weren't good enough. Of course loads of us would have loved to see them win it but alas Arlene had to let it cross back across to the free state.



Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 06:14:05 PM
So if Tyrone, Monaghan and Armagh all win their games Tyrone are 50/50 to get Fermanagh in the 4th round game.

I'd settle for that tbf.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 25, 2018, 11:24:39 PM
So if Tyrone, Monaghan and Armagh all win their games Tyrone are 50/50 to get Fermanagh in the 4th round game.

I'd settle for that tbf.

Monaghan will win, and presumably Tyrone people will be rooting for Armagh.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: omagh_gael on June 26, 2018, 11:02:05 AM
So if Tyrone, Monaghan and Armagh all win their games Tyrone are 50/50 to get Fermanagh in the 4th round game.

I'd settle for that tbf.

And consequently more likely to be in the Kerry/Galway super 8 group,
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: J70 on June 26, 2018, 11:06:36 AM
That’s an interesting question - which Super 8 group do the qualifiers want?

Very probable defeat to the Dubs and possibly Donegal in Ballybofey, or Kerry and Galway (wherever those games would take place).

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 11:41:21 AM
That’s an interesting question - which Super 8 group do the qualifiers want?

Very probable defeat to the Dubs and possibly Donegal in Ballybofey, or Kerry and Galway (wherever those games would take place).

Probably depends on the other qualifier team with them
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 11:53:17 AM
I'd rather be in Dublin's group for the Super 8.
If you can get out of the group with them, you can only meet them again in the final and maybe you will have learned a bit from playing them in the group stage.
Still though, you'd more than likely end up playing Kerry in the semi-final...
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 05:04:38 PM
So if Tyrone, Monaghan and Armagh all win their games Tyrone are 50/50 to get Fermanagh in the 4th round game.

I'd settle for that tbf.

They would be tighter odds than that to get Fermanagh I'd say, nod nod wink wink
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on June 26, 2018, 05:48:56 PM
Agree with Jinxy. I'd rather be in the Dublin Donegal group now. Before I heard of the McBrearty injury I'd probably have rather been in the other side and take your chances with Galway but that's setting up a semi final with Dublin if you finish second.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 06:10:43 PM
I'd rather be in Dublin's group for the Super 8.
If you can get out of the group with them, you can only meet them again in the final and maybe you will have learned a bit from playing them in the group stage.
Still though, you'd more than likely end up playing Kerry in the semi-final...

That's our plan in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Whishtup on June 26, 2018, 06:10:58 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 06:44:54 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Yeah. That makes sense. ???
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Whishtup on June 26, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

I dunno- a team that makes it through the qualifiers is going to be half handy.  We already have the possibility of 1 or two weaker teams getting to the super 8's and getting tanked by everybody.  Is it possible that a 2nd tier team in super 8s pulls off  one upset, draws another match and beats another 2nd tier team?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 26, 2018, 08:04:21 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

I dunno- a team that makes it through the qualifiers is going to be half handy.  We already have the possibility of 1 or two weaker teams getting to the super 8's and getting tanked by everybody.  Is it possible that a 2nd tier team in super 8s pulls off  one upset, draws another match and beats another 2nd tier team?

Yes as it is that’s correct, but if you fix the draw so stronger teams can draw each other and the same with weaker teams then the super 8s ends up half of each and very imbalanced
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Whishtup on June 26, 2018, 09:19:03 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

Would make half the teams in the super 8 awfully weak?

I dunno- a team that makes it through the qualifiers is going to be half handy.  We already have the possibility of 1 or two weaker teams getting to the super 8's and getting tanked by everybody.  Is it possible that a 2nd tier team in super 8s pulls off  one upset, draws another match and beats another 2nd tier team?

Yes as it is that’s correct, but if you fix the draw so stronger teams can draw each other and the same with weaker teams then the super 8s ends up half of each and very imbalanced

Does it not do more to bridge the gulf between the tiers, though?  Under the current system, it is very hard for a weaker team to reach super 8's.  I think it would restore the do or die spirit to the provincial championship.  You would also have a potentially stonking game at round 3 of qualifiers which is much better than watching Carlow getting hammered by Tyrone and Monaghan hammering Waterford.  At least in the super 8's, a Carlow may get a chance to win 1-2 of the games.  The all ireland was built on the excitement that you may have to compete with the best in the country-what better place to do that than the super 8's where you get a 2nd and 3rd chance?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 26, 2018, 10:03:10 PM
Don't let anyone first division teams compete in the All Ireland.
Let them win their Provincials and then feck off with their shiny cups.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Orior on June 27, 2018, 09:29:01 AM
Qualifiers are so much more interesting and 'exotic' that the Provincial Championship. Particularly when your team ain't that good.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on June 27, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

 :o
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on June 27, 2018, 01:58:12 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

The clue is in the name i.e. Super 8. Rigging it to be anything other than that is doing no one any good.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 27, 2018, 02:57:07 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

The clue is in the name i.e. Super 8. Rigging it to be anything other than that is doing no one any good.

Except that's a media tag...the proper name is the All-Ireland Quarter Final Group Stage.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 27, 2018, 03:23:28 PM
This round of the draw should have seen all division 1 teams  put into a pot and drawn against each other with any team left going back into the main bowl. This would also incentivise winning your province, taking the gloss off the qualifiers route and open up more places in the super 8's.

The clue is in the name i.e. Super 8. Rigging it to be anything other than that is doing no one any good.

Except that's a media tag...the proper name is the All-Ireland Quarter Final Group Stage.
Exactly. Some media person presumably christened it that and all of the herd followed.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Whishtup on June 27, 2018, 09:56:45 PM
Does Super mean Division 1? What's the point if that's the case?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 11:40:58 PM
??????
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on July 01, 2018, 09:37:52 AM
Armagh     
Tyrone
Monahan
Kildare

Fermanagh
Roscommon
Cork
Laois
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on July 01, 2018, 10:20:52 AM
Armagh     
Tyrone
Monahan
Kildare

Fermanagh
Roscommon
Cork
Laois

3x Division 1 (Kildare, Tyrone, Monaghan)
2x Division 2 (Cork and Roscommon)
2x Division 3 (Armagh and Fermanagh)
1x Division 4 (Laois)

Would like to see

Roscommon vs Kildare
Tyrone vs Fermanagh
Monaghan vs Cork
Armagh vs Laois

Not bad having representation across all the divisions.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on July 01, 2018, 10:24:34 AM
Notable that the Div 3 finalists and Div 4  winners are in the pot, although that may be luck of the draw.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 10:33:33 AM
Croke Park is out of the equation so for Armagh the options are Roscommon (in Clones?), Cork (in  Portlaoise?) or Laois (in Navan). The Rossies the team to avoid there.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on July 01, 2018, 10:57:28 AM
Breffbi wold be good for Armagh v Rosc but it too is out.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on July 01, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
Breffbi wold be good for Armagh v Rosc but it too is out.

Enniskillen, the Breffini substitute of choice.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2018, 12:12:53 PM
I presume we'll refuse to play Ulster teams in an Ulster venue.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on July 01, 2018, 12:17:36 PM
I presume we'll refuse to play Ulster teams in an Ulster venue.

Youll do what your told
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: FermGael on July 01, 2018, 12:26:21 PM
Kildare will get Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on July 01, 2018, 12:31:01 PM
Kildare will Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?

Another ball is drawn out if it's a repeat pairing.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: FermGael on July 01, 2018, 12:31:47 PM
Kildare will Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?

Another ball is drawn out if it's a repeat pairing.

Yeah but what happens if we are not drawn out to last say ?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: pbat on July 01, 2018, 12:47:45 PM
Sky are showing 2 qualifiers on Saturday. What is down for RTE next Sunday or maybe they showing the other two?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on July 01, 2018, 01:07:28 PM
Kildare will Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?

Another ball is drawn out if it's a repeat pairing.

Yeah but what happens if we are not drawn out to last say ?

I would say Fermanagh are not drawn out but will get drawn with the first team they can be paired with
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2018, 02:54:08 PM
Our man on the 4 Cs tells me Fermanagh will be drawn against Tyrone or Kildare who will obviously be in one bowl.
Then Armagh and Monaghan will be added to the Qualifiers bowl  with Ros, Laois and Cork in th'other wan.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on July 01, 2018, 03:08:20 PM
Tyrone, Monaghan or Armagh v Cork likely in Portlaoise.
The closure of Cavan makes these teams v Rossies a bit problematic for venue.
Laois or Kildare v any of these or Fermanagh poses problems as well, perhaps the green grassy slopes by the Boyne might play a role?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rudi on July 01, 2018, 07:17:57 PM
Roscommon v Armagh in Mullingar
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 08:05:30 PM
Tyrone, Monaghan or Armagh v Cork likely in Portlaoise.
The closure of Cavan makes these teams v Rossies a bit problematic for venue.
Laois or Kildare v any of these or Fermanagh poses problems as well, perhaps the green grassy slopes by the Boyne might play a role?

If Roscommon draw Armagh or Tyrone then Clones is the obvious venue. If they draw Monaghan then Navan is an option

I agree that Navan is a good option for Laois vs an Ulster side but could be Clones if it’s Tyrone

cork game deco should be in Portlaoise
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 08:06:21 PM
I presume we'll refuse to play Ulster teams in an Ulster venue.

Why?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2018, 08:10:36 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Baggio90 on July 01, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
For the second year running, Ulster teams comprise 5 of the last 12.

Considering every province is guaranteed 2 teams at this stage it means Ulster have 3 of the 4 teams that have came through the qualifier route.

I find it very odd the consistent negativity Ulster football gets when it is the only functioning football province.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2018, 08:12:23 PM
Only one?
Only competitive Provincial Final?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Baggio90 on July 01, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

Sure they might as well just play it in Roscommon, do you want the Ulster sides to play the game with their hands tied behind their back too?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 08:13:04 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

In what way is Clones Armagh’s back yard?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Baggio90 on July 01, 2018, 08:13:59 PM
Only one?
Only competitive Provincial Final?

Roscommon played one Div 4 side to reach a provincial final.

Fermanagh knocked out Armagh and Monaghan to get there.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2018, 08:34:41 PM
Kildare will get Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?

Oh is it now.......
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on July 01, 2018, 08:39:36 PM
they'll have to deal with fermanagh first. They cant get monaghan or armagh. Do they pick kildare or tyrone for them first and then have 3 teams in 2 pots (like a normal draw)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on July 01, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
Kildare will get Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?

Oh is it now.......

A tasty debate incoming...

Kildare won’t do shit for Kildare! If anything they will put them together after what happened last week. However, that being said, Kildare still need to beat their next opponent.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2018, 08:45:05 PM
Only one?
Only competitive Provincial Final?

Roscommon played one Div 4 side to reach a provincial final.

Fermanagh knocked out Armagh and Monaghan to get there.
What was the only competitive Provincial Final?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: FermGael on July 01, 2018, 08:50:00 PM
Kildare will get Fermanagh or Laois.
Tyrone would be our preferred draw .
Gaa needs to make sure Kildare are kept away from Dublin in super 8s.

How are they going to work this draw considering we can't draw 2 of the teams ?

Oh is it now.......

Course it is.
Will be in Clones.  Leaves for a handy get away at half time

If we draw Kildare the venue will be an issue.
Would have to stay to watch the whole match
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2018, 09:00:29 PM
That's more like it. Know your place.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on July 01, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Tubberman on July 01, 2018, 09:19:54 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense

Connacht please.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 01, 2018, 09:19:58 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense

Leinster?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2018, 09:43:05 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense
Just getting a humorous dig at ye lot who think it's acceptable that a CONNACHT team to play an Ulster team at an Ulster venue that Teversham all been using for years.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 01, 2018, 09:59:32 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.


So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense
Just getting a humorous dig at ye lot who think it's acceptable that a CONNACHT team to play an Ulster team at an Ulster venue that Teversham all been using for years.

What are you GOING on ABOUT?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 01, 2018, 10:19:09 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense
Just getting a humorous dig at ye lot who think it's acceptable that a CONNACHT team to play an Ulster team at an Ulster venue that Teversham all been using for years.

Really, WTF! And you're sniping about Ulster humour.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.

Kildare will be sent to Navan to see what a real big Stadium looks like.
Cork's game will be as near the oppositions border as possible as the 6 Cork fans don't mind where they go.

So you won’t play an Ulster team in Ulster but expect an Ulster to play a Connaught team in Connaught. Makes sense
Just getting a humorous dig at ye lot who think it's acceptable that a CONNACHT team to play an Ulster team at an Ulster venue that Teversham all been using for years.

Really, WTF! And you're sniping about Ulster humour.
Connaught doesn't exist. That is a different issue to Ulster "humour".

BTW are there any Fáilte go Tír Eoghain signs on roads entering the county?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Main Street on July 01, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.
..............
Healy Pk would be more of an outside toilet extension to our back yard, no advantage there for Monaghan.
Should it come to pass, we'd gladly take on the Rossies in their own sheep pen.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 12:12:36 AM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.
..............
Healy Pk would be more of an outside toilet extension to our back yard, no advantage there for Monaghan.
Should it come to pass, we'd gladly take on the Rossies in their own sheep pen.

Yer not half good enough to be playing us at home.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: armaghniac on July 02, 2018, 12:13:34 AM
Healy Pk would be more of an outside toilet extension to our back yard,

Well it is something of a bog...
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: weareros on July 02, 2018, 02:27:14 AM
Only one?
Only competitive Provincial Final?

Roscommon played one Div 4 side to reach a provincial final.

Fermanagh knocked out Armagh and Monaghan to get there.

No matter. It was a cakewalk for Donegal in Ulster. It was a cakewalk for Dublin in Leinster. And it was a cakewalk for Kerry in Munster. Not one of them had to play a Div 1 team. Galway at least had to beat one Div 1 team and one promoted to Div 1 to win the Connacht final and it was a competitive final.


Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Schkite on July 02, 2018, 07:21:17 AM
Why should we play any Ulater team in their own backyard..
Ros v any Ulster team - Castlebar.
..............
Healy Pk would be more of an outside toilet extension to our back yard, no advantage there for Monaghan.
Should it come to pass, we'd gladly take on the Rossies in their own sheep pen.

Yer not half good enough to be playing us at home.

You talk about people rating Monaghan too highly, but you wildly overestimate your own team
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Schkite on July 02, 2018, 08:41:49 AM
Fermanagh v Kildare
Laois v Monaghan
Cork v Tyrone
Roscommon v Armagh
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: WT4E on July 02, 2018, 08:42:24 AM
What a run for Monaghan to the Super 8's! Easy or what
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on July 02, 2018, 08:43:05 AM
So Tyrone v Dublin in Clones!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tintin25 on July 02, 2018, 08:43:29 AM
Fermanagh v Kildare

Happy with that though I'm sure Kildare are too  :)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossie11 on July 02, 2018, 08:44:13 AM
Armagh V Ross "close enough to a local derby" according to the co-presenter on RTE 1..
 ::)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on July 02, 2018, 08:45:35 AM
What a run for Monaghan to the Super 8's! Easy or what

Unreal....4 division 1 teams. Interesting to see how the do in super 8s, can't use that whole Ulster being too tough and other teams having huge advantages with easy routes
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on July 02, 2018, 08:46:27 AM
Super 8 grours
Dublin
Donegal
Tyrone/Cork
Roscommon/Armagh

Kerry
Galway
Fermanagh/Kildare
Monaghan/Laois
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on July 02, 2018, 08:47:33 AM
Dublin will be on the road match 2 against either Tyrone or cork
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on July 02, 2018, 08:49:12 AM
Fermanagh and Monaghan to complete super 8s group with Galway and kerry.
Roscommon and Tyrone to join Dublin and Donegal.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: WT4E on July 02, 2018, 08:50:53 AM
So Tyrone v Dublin in Clones!

Healy Park? (Not sure we'll beat Cork though)
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on July 02, 2018, 08:55:15 AM
So Tyrone v Dublin in Clones!

Healy Park? (Not sure we'll beat Cork though)

Tyrone, even though they are only showing average enough form, should still have way too much for Cork.

Roscommon Armagh possibly the pick of the round 4 ties
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 08:56:11 AM
The Ros match is quite important because Cavan are not up to scratch and there are big questions about where the sport is going in terms of competitiveness. Are Ros similar to Cavan or do they have something different? 
Division 1 next year will have Ros and Cavan as promoted teams and Tyrone, Monaghan, Galway, Dubs, Kerry and Mayo as incumbents.
The gap between the top and the rest seems to be getting worse.



Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 02, 2018, 09:00:57 AM
What a run for Monaghan to the Super 8's! Easy or what
They must have purchased a lucky charm since losing to Fermanagh. Will be in the easier last eight group also. Fermanagh v Kildare,Armagh v Roscommon 50/50 games the other two ties will be straight forward wins for Tyrone and Monaghan
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: rrhf on July 02, 2018, 09:03:21 AM
Tyrone v cork in cork I presume and when
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: illdecide on July 02, 2018, 09:03:46 AM
Any indication of where the games will be...i'll assume there'll be double headers somewhere
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: illdecide on July 02, 2018, 09:04:30 AM
Tyrone v cork in cork I presume and when

Neutral venues?

That's what i thought
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
The president said live on air this morning that home venues will be honoured (or words to that effect). Kildare if they win would have galway at home
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tippabu on July 02, 2018, 09:10:35 AM
The president said live on air this morning that home venues will be honoured (or words to that effect). Kildare if they win would have galway at home

And Dublin will be in Parnell park?!!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: WT4E on July 02, 2018, 09:12:12 AM
The president said live on air this morning that home venues will be honoured (or words to that effect). Kildare if they win would have galway at home

He said home venues would be honored fro Super 8's - R4 of qualifiers was always agreed as neutral venues.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: cornetto on July 02, 2018, 09:14:59 AM
Phase 1 July 14/15

Kerry vs Galway @ Croke Park

Fermanagh/Kildare vs Laois/Monaghan @ Croke Park

Phase 2 July 21/22

Fermanagh/Kildare vs Galway

Laois/Monaghan vs Kerry



Phase 3 August 4/5

Kerry vs Fermanagh/Kildare
Galway vs Laois/Monaghan

Super 8 Group Two

Teams: Donegal, Dublin, Cork or Tyrone, Roscommon or Armagh

Phase 1 July 14/15

Dublin vs Donegal @ Croke Park



Cork/Tyrone vs Roscommon/Armagh @ Croke Park

Phase 2 July 21/22

Cork/Tyrone vs Dublin
Roscommon/Armagh vs Donegal

Phase 3 August 4/5/6

Donegal vs Cork/Tyrone
Dublin vs Roscommon/Armagh

All-Ireland Football Championship semi-finals

August 11/12

Group One winner vs Group Two runner-up
Group Two winner vs group one runner up

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 09:16:15 AM
Time to walk the walk and prove we've arrived.
A repeat of the 2nd half v Galway and we'll be dumped on our arse.
Time for our lads and our cool clean hero to deliver . All the young team learning stuff has to end some time.
Next weekend we either drive on or forget about it.
Double header with Tyrone/Cork in Portlaoise?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on July 02, 2018, 09:19:58 AM
Time to walk the walk and prove we've arrived.
A repeat of the 2nd half v Galway and we'll be dumped on our arse.
Time for our lads and our cool clean hero to deliver . All the young team learning stuff has to end some time.
Next weekend we either drive on or forget about it.
Double header with Tyrone/Cork in Portlaoise?

Wouldn’t worry about it. Armagh go missing for 65 minutes of a game!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2018, 09:21:36 AM
The president said live on air this morning that home venues will be honoured (or words to that effect). Kildare if they win would have galway at home

And Dublin will be in Parnell park?!!

Maybe Laois monaghan will be in Parnell park.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on July 02, 2018, 09:30:00 AM
So Tyrone v Dublin in Clones!

Healy Park? (Not sure we'll beat Cork though)
Before the Kildare stuff, I would have said Tyrone v Dublin would definitely be played in Clones rather than Healy Park to get the extra 10,000 tickets.
Now it seems Tyrone would be able to stick with Omagh, if they do make it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on July 02, 2018, 09:34:09 AM
#omaghornowhere
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: longballin on July 02, 2018, 09:38:55 AM
#omaghornowhere

Is it not waterlogged?!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on July 02, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
Logistics nightmare for gaa next saturday evening

Say laois v monaghan in navan
Kildare v fermanagh in tullamore
Cork v tyrone in portlaoise
Armagh v roscommon in carrick on shannon

Galway v cats in thurles

Be so much trafficgoinv both ways and using the same roads
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 09:47:57 AM
Is the hurley stuff on Sunday?
I'm told two football games Saturday  and 2 Sunday.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 02, 2018, 09:51:25 AM
Time to walk the walk and prove we've arrived.
A repeat of the 2nd half v Galway and we'll be dumped on our arse.
Time for our lads and our cool clean hero to deliver . All the young team learning stuff has to end some time.
Next weekend we either drive on or forget about it.
Double header with Tyrone/Cork in Portlaoise?

Or Mullingar with Fermanagh v Kildare?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 09:52:07 AM
Is the hurley stuff on Sunday?
I'm told two football games Saturday  and 2 Sunday.
Sunday in Thurles
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 09:55:20 AM
Time to walk the walk and prove we've arrived.
A repeat of the 2nd half v Galway and we'll be dumped on our arse.
Time for our lads and our cool clean hero to deliver . All the young team learning stuff has to end some time.
Next weekend we either drive on or forget about it.
Double header with Tyrone/Cork in Portlaoise?
Time for Ros to make a statement
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 09:57:40 AM
Absolutely Seafóidín.
We've been humming and hawing and mumbling all year.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: rrhf on July 02, 2018, 10:10:10 AM
I think if the last week or so. I think the gas needs to renegade on upgrading stadia in all counties to a decent level funded mainly by Croke park, and create a model which assists coaching and training facilities from the croke Park enterprise. At the moment it appears to be heading down a road of alienation. The model needs transparency so the man on the street will want croke Park to fill.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Paudi Meehan on July 02, 2018, 12:14:20 PM

The Rossies have a game they should win to get to where they believe they should be - alongside Galway. Be careful what you wish for !
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on July 02, 2018, 02:38:07 PM
Laois v Monaghan Navan 7pm saturday evening
Tyrone v Cork Portlaoise 7pm Sat


Kildare v Fermanagh Navan 2pm Sunday
Armagh v Roscommon 3pm Sunday Carrick on Shannon


RUMOUR ON TWITTER!!!!!

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
Time to walk the walk and prove we've arrived.
A repeat of the 2nd half v Galway and we'll be dumped on our arse.
Time for our lads and our cool clean hero to deliver . All the young team learning stuff has to end some time.
Next weekend we either drive on or forget about it.
Double header with Tyrone/Cork in Portlaoise?

:o

Did Kevin skin you a few times on the field back in the day or something?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on July 02, 2018, 02:51:10 PM
Laois v Monaghan Navan 7pm saturday evening
Tyrone v Cork Portlaoise 7pm Sat


Kildare v Fermanagh Navan 2pm Sunday
Armagh v Roscommon 3pm Sunday Carrick on Shannon


RUMOUR ON TWITTER!!!!!

Sky listings show kildare v fermanagh at 5pm on Saturday...
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jayop on July 02, 2018, 03:00:07 PM
Very interesting that the draw was hours ago and the venues haven't been announced yet in stark contrast with the shit show last week. Obviously taking their time and making sure they are working with the cbs.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on July 02, 2018, 03:03:32 PM
Rossie secretary now saying on Twitter it's a roscommon v armagh and cork v Tyrone double header in portlaoise double header at 3pm and 5pm on Saturday.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: our_fella on July 02, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
Saturday 3pm in Portlaoise. Confirmed on Roscommon gaa twitter
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 03:06:57 PM
Very interesting that the draw was hours ago and the venues haven't been announced yet in stark contrast with the shit show last week. Obviously taking their time and making sure they are working with the cbs.

Well it’s a good long lunch their having otherwise
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on July 02, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
Laois v Monaghan in Navan on sunday!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: inexile on July 02, 2018, 03:13:41 PM
According to Laois GAA on twitter They are confirmed for 2pm on Sunday 8th in Navan
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 02, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
Very interesting that the draw was hours ago and the venues haven't been announced yet in stark contrast with the shit show last week. Obviously taking their time and making sure they are working with the cbs.
Learning their lesson. Only fools jump in.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 03:14:37 PM
Saturday 3pm in Portlaoise. Confirmed on Roscommon gaa twitter

That’s a hell of a drive from the northern reaches of both counties.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: inexile on July 02, 2018, 03:15:01 PM
So the only venue we're missing is for Kildare v Fermanagh, rumoured to be 5pm on Saturday
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mup on July 02, 2018, 03:17:13 PM
So the only venue we're missing is for Kildare v Fermanagh, rumoured to be 5pm on Saturday

I thought Sky had a game at 7pm?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on July 02, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
So the only venue we're missing is for Kildare v Fermanagh, rumoured to be 5pm on Saturday

I thought Sky had a game at 7pm?

Says that but it may have been changed from that.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: APM on July 02, 2018, 03:20:33 PM
WTF! How does it make sense to take Armagh and Roscommon to a double header in Portlaoise? Both counties travelling south with Armagh supporters travelling a good bit further than Roscommon.  These people are idiots.  What is their obsession with double headers.  I don't need to spend an extre £5 to see Cork and Tyrone unless Cork win in which case its great value  :P

Brewster, Clones or Carrick would have been preferable!
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Mourne Red on July 02, 2018, 03:22:38 PM
Saturday

Ros V Armagh - Portlaoise 3pm
Cork v Tyrone - Portlaoise 5pm
Fermanagh vs Kildare - Navan 7pm

Sunday

Laois vs Monaghan - Navan 2pm

The chat on twitter
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mup on July 02, 2018, 03:24:40 PM
Saturday

Ros V Armagh - Portlaoise 3pm
Cork v Tyrone - Portlaoise 5pm
Fermanagh vs Kildare - Navan 7pm

Sunday

Laois vs Monaghan - Navan 2pm

The chat on twitter

Looking at Sky Listing it says Kildare v Fermanagh at 5pm and Cork v Tyrone at 7pm. Be strange to have a game in Portlaoise at 3pm and then another at 7pm.

I'm confused.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 02, 2018, 03:26:45 PM
I'd say there's a fair few groundsmen praying for a drop of rain during the week.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 03:27:57 PM
WTF! How does it make sense to take Armagh and Roscommon to a double header in Portlaoise? Both counties travelling south with Armagh supporters travelling a good bit further than Roscommon.  These people are idiots.  What is their obsession with double headers.  I don't need to spend an extre £5 to see Cork and Tyrone unless Cork win in which case its great value  :P

Brewster, Clones or Carrick would have been preferable!

They do not give 1 Fcuk about fans
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 03:31:48 PM
I'd imagine Tyrone didn't want to play 1 mile from Roscommon while no doubt we didn't want to play in Ulster.
As for Navan sure it will grand.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on July 02, 2018, 03:33:26 PM
Portlaoise will be mobbed on Saturday Surely a big support will travel for the 3 counties(we know Cork won't travel)

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 03:40:01 PM
WTF! How does it make sense to take Armagh and Roscommon to a double header in Portlaoise? Both counties travelling south with Armagh supporters travelling a good bit further than Roscommon.  These people are idiots.  What is their obsession with double headers.  I don't need to spend an extre £5 to see Cork and Tyrone unless Cork win in which case its great value  :P

Brewster, Clones
or Carrick would have been preferable!
You are keen to have Ulster sides play their games in Ulster.

Tyrone (Ulster) v Cork (Munster)
Roscommon (Connacht) v Armagh (Ulster)

Games played in Leinster which is as netural venue as you can get.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 03:40:59 PM
Great choice for the match IMHO.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 03:44:50 PM
Great choice for the match IMHO.

Syf,

Have you ever had a humble opinion?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: APM on July 02, 2018, 03:45:38 PM
WTF! How does it make sense to take Armagh and Roscommon to a double header in Portlaoise? Both counties travelling south with Armagh supporters travelling a good bit further than Roscommon.  These people are idiots.  What is their obsession with double headers.  I don't need to spend an extre £5 to see Cork and Tyrone unless Cork win in which case its great value  :P

Brewster, Clones
or Carrick would have been preferable!
You are keen to have Ulster sides play their games in Ulster.

Tyrone (Ulster) v Cork (Munster)
Roscommon (Connacht) v Armagh (Ulster)

Games played in Leinster which is as netural venue as you can get.

Of course, but equally happy in this case to go to Carrick, Navan or Mullingar.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
Great choice for the match IMHO.

Syf,

Have you ever had a humble opinion?

How’s the Red uprising coming along?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: APM on July 02, 2018, 03:47:24 PM
Great choice for the match IMHO.

Syf,

Have you ever had a humble opinion?

I'd be really looking forward to the debate in here over the course of the next week if it wasn't for your humble opinions.  :D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 03:53:59 PM
Great choice for the match IMHO.

Syf,

Have you ever had a humble opinion?

How’s the Red uprising coming along?
You tell me
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10Y2Y/
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: mup on July 02, 2018, 03:55:03 PM
Ros v Armagh at 3pm in Port
Cork v Tyrone at 5pm in Port
Fermanagh v Kildare 7pm in Navan - all Saturday

Laois v Monaghan at 2pm in Navan on Sunday
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 03:57:30 PM
WTF! How does it make sense to take Armagh and Roscommon to a double header in Portlaoise? Both counties travelling south with Armagh supporters travelling a good bit further than Roscommon.  These people are idiots.  What is their obsession with double headers.  I don't need to spend an extre £5 to see Cork and Tyrone unless Cork win in which case its great value  :P

Brewster, Clones
or Carrick would have been preferable!
You are keen to have Ulster sides play their games in Ulster.

Tyrone (Ulster) v Cork (Munster)
Roscommon (Connacht) v Armagh (Ulster)

Games played in Leinster which is as netural venue as you can get.

How is Clones not neutral?

Where are Laois and Kildare games bring played? Are those neutral venues

I suppose Ibrox would have been worse. But not by much
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
Ros v Armagh at 3pm in Port
Cork v Tyrone at 5pm in Port
Fermanagh v Kildare 7pm in Navan - all Saturday

Laois v Monaghan at 2pm in Navan on Sunday

Navan not too neutral for Fermanagh,Monaghan and why is Navan selected twice? the winner of Sundays game will have one less day to prepare for their round 1 last 8 game.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 04:02:29 PM

How is Clones not neutral?
Because its a Ulster venue and both Ulster teams are more use to playing in that venue than Roscommon or Cork.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 04:05:49 PM

How is Clones not neutral?
Because its a Ulster venue and both Ulster teams are more use to playing in that venue than Roscommon or Cork.

On what planet are Hughes, Burns, McKay, McCabe, Mackin, Hall, Grimley, McShane, Murnin or Sheridan used to playing in Clones

And Shields, Forker and Grugan for that matter.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: oliverkelly on July 02, 2018, 04:12:58 PM
Breffni would have been the ideal venue if it wasnt out of action. Clones is a lot closer to Armagh than Roscommon.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 04:13:58 PM

On what planet are Hughes, Burns, McKay, McCabe, Mackin, Hall, Grimley, McShane, Murnin or Sheridan used to playing in Clones

And Shields, Forker and Grugan for that matter.
Planet earth? and more than just senior football those lads have played .
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: GrandMasterFlash on July 02, 2018, 04:17:16 PM
Ros v Armagh at 3pm in Port
Cork v Tyrone at 5pm in Port
Fermanagh v Kildare 7pm in Navan - all Saturday

Laois v Monaghan at 2pm in Navan on Sunday

Navan not too neutral for Fermanagh,Monaghan and why is Navan selected twice? the winner of Sundays game will have one less day to prepare for their round 1 last 8 game.

Minor enough point I'd have thought but the fixture boffins might fix the winners game for the following Sunday (15th July), thus giving them 7 days, maybe..  ???
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 04:18:28 PM

On what planet are Hughes, Burns, McKay, McCabe, Mackin, Hall, Grimley, McShane, Murnin or Sheridan used to playing in Clones

And Shields, Forker and Grugan for that matter.
Planet earth? and more than just senior football those lads have played .

10 have never played a senior match there. 3 have probably played 2 games there. Roscommon would have more experience there
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 04:20:59 PM

On what planet are Hughes, Burns, McKay, McCabe, Mackin, Hall, Grimley, McShane, Murnin or Sheridan used to playing in Clones

And Shields, Forker and Grugan for that matter.
Planet earth? and more than just senior football those lads have played .

10 have never played a senior match there. 3 have probably played 2 games there. Roscommon would have more experience there

Please don’t invent things about us to support a bad point. We didn’t even play in Clones the last time we had an away league game against Monaghan. Portloaise is a great choice.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 04:23:07 PM
Someone said Armagh were used to playing there. They are not
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 02, 2018, 04:23:51 PM
The GAA hamstrung by Breffni not being available
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 02, 2018, 04:26:11 PM
Sky showing Fermanagh v Kildare & Tyrone v Cork.

Rte down to show a qualifier on Sunday but thats fixed for 2 but that was before the draw between Galway & Kilkeny.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Manning18 on July 02, 2018, 04:48:23 PM
Why Navan and Portloaise over Tullamore for any of these 4 games? It's better located for 3 of them and a much nicer ground than Navan
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Throw ball on July 02, 2018, 04:49:03 PM
Portlaoise is 2 hours 30 from Armagh and 1 hour 25 from Roscommon. 2 hours 45 from Dungannon and 1 hour 49 from Cork. Hardly central. As for neutral provinces Monaghan and Fermanagh are playing in Leinster.

For the record Armagh players would probably have played more often in Portlaoise than Clones the last while.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on July 02, 2018, 04:51:33 PM
Jaysus hotels in Portlaoise arent cheap.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 04:58:07 PM
Portlaoise is 2 hours 30 from Armagh and 1 hour 25 from Roscommon. 2 hours 45 from Dungannon and 1 hour 49 from Cork. Hardly central. As for neutral provinces Monaghan and Fermanagh are playing in Leinster.

For the record Armagh players would probably have played more often in Portlaoise than Clones the last while.

Well said.

A statement as to the logic of the venue would be welcome. There are other stadia that could accommodate the crowd that would be more convenient to both sets of fans and more equidistant to be fair to both sets. Let’s hear why it needs to be Portlaoise
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 05:04:54 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Hound on July 02, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
Ros v Armagh at 3pm in Port
Cork v Tyrone at 5pm in Port
Fermanagh v Kildare 7pm in Navan - all Saturday

Laois v Monaghan at 2pm in Navan on Sunday

Navan not too neutral for Fermanagh,Monaghan and why is Navan selected twice? the winner of Sundays game will have one less day to prepare for their round 1 last 8 game.

Minor enough point I'd have thought but the fixture boffins might fix the winners game for the following Sunday (15th July), thus giving them 7 days, maybe..  ???
Good point. Winner of Monaghan v Laois will defo have their Super 8 first game on the 15th.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 02, 2018, 05:14:22 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

Or clare who had to travel to Armagh at the weekend despite being pulled out first.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Solo_run on July 02, 2018, 05:16:14 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Manning18 on July 02, 2018, 05:16:56 PM
Ros v Armagh at 3pm in Port
Cork v Tyrone at 5pm in Port
Fermanagh v Kildare 7pm in Navan - all Saturday

Laois v Monaghan at 2pm in Navan on Sunday

Navan not too neutral for Fermanagh,Monaghan and why is Navan selected twice? the winner of Sundays game will have one less day to prepare for their round 1 last 8 game.

Minor enough point I'd have thought but the fixture boffins might fix the winners game for the following Sunday (15th July), thus giving them 7 days, maybe..  ???
Good point. Winner of Monaghan v Laois will defo have their Super 8 first game on the 15th.

And that's how they'll justify putting Dublin on the Saturday and having the other super 8 group clashing with the WC and the hurling QF's. FFS. They can be calculated and clever when they want to be
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: oliverkelly on July 02, 2018, 05:24:05 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 02, 2018, 05:24:43 PM
Bring it all to Limerick.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 06:00:45 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on July 02, 2018, 06:25:56 PM
Time to walk the walk and prove we've arrived.
A repeat of the 2nd half v Galway and we'll be dumped on our arse.
Time for our lads and our cool clean hero to deliver . All the young team learning stuff has to end some time.
Next weekend we either drive on or forget about it.
Double header with Tyrone/Cork in Portlaoise?

Wouldn’t worry about it. Armagh go missing for 65 minutes of a game!

Sure we only need ten minutes
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 06:49:27 PM
I got the fixtures right anyway.
Over to the lads now to get the results right .
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 07:21:06 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 07:23:46 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.

I said a good reason.

And to add gravitas to my post may I add “Duh”

Shouldn’t you be screaming for someone to help you with the big light?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2018, 07:24:28 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.
enlighten me as to what province Navan, Laois and Kildare are in again?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 02, 2018, 07:37:30 PM
Meath, Leinster, Leinster.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Schkite on July 02, 2018, 07:39:22 PM
Armagh v Roscommon due to be shown live on Rte news now apparently. Wonder what odds they do the same for Monaghan Laois,1 not good I'd say. And they were originally supposed to show a Sunday qualifier ffs.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 07:49:59 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.
enlighten me as to what province Navan, Laois and Kildare are in again?

Do I look like I care what Laois and Kildare do? We weren’t pushed around and it was great to see. A Leinster venue for a Connacht-Ulster neutral venue tie makes perfect sense.

Why do Ulster lads always find something to complain about?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2018, 07:52:12 PM
It's part of what they are Syfīn  ;D

I presume both Fermanagh and Monaghan were happy to play in Navan.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 08:05:54 PM
Armagh v Roscommon due to be shown live on Rte news now apparently. Wonder what odds they do the same for Monaghan Laois,1 not good I'd say. And they were originally supposed to show a Sunday qualifier ffs.
Sure if Monaghan were in the all Ireland final it would be played in Breffni.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Schkite on July 02, 2018, 08:37:58 PM
Armagh v Roscommon due to be shown live on Rte news now apparently. Wonder what odds they do the same for Monaghan Laois,1 not good I'd say. And they were originally supposed to show a Sunday qualifier ffs.
Sure if Monaghan were in the all Ireland final it would be played in Breffni.

You sure you replied to the right fella?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on July 02, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.
enlighten me as to what province Navan, Laois and Kildare are in again?

Do I look like I care what Laois and Kildare do? We weren’t pushed around and it was great to see. A Leinster venue for a Connacht-Ulster neutral venue tie makes perfect sense.

Why do Ulster lads always find something to complain about?

I’m this case, nothing
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 02, 2018, 09:44:39 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.
enlighten me as to what province Navan, Laois and Kildare are in again?

Do I look like I care what Laois and Kildare do? We weren’t pushed around and it was great to see. A Leinster venue for a Connacht-Ulster neutral venue tie makes perfect sense.

Why do Ulster lads always find something to complain about?

We are well aware your role on this forum. Don’t let us trouble you.

For those interested in sense and reason it’s clear that there is neither a requirement for nor logic behind games having to be played in a third province.

The essence of a neutral venue is that neither team has home advantage and that each set of fans is treated equitably. The distance that Armagh fans are being asked to travel is not equitable. Other stadia that are available would have been more equitable. Cavan had it been available would have been ideal and it’s absence, Clones.

It’s not Roscommon’s fault. Double header pricing, fuller stands for the tv pictures and a cheaper broadcast are the drivers here.

The idea that Roscommon were being pushed around here is the invention of a 3rd rate troll

Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 09:54:10 PM
Give a walkover and stay at fkn home >:(
I'm sure Cavan or Mayowestros would love to be on Portlaoise at the weekend.

So as long as Roscommon get what they want that is all that matters?

Where do you suggest the game should be played

Still haven’t heard a good reason why Clones wasn’t chosen

Province. Duh.
enlighten me as to what province Navan, Laois and Kildare are in again?

Do I look like I care what Laois and Kildare do? We weren’t pushed around and it was great to see. A Leinster venue for a Connacht-Ulster neutral venue tie makes perfect sense.

Why do Ulster lads always find something to complain about?

We are well aware your role on this forum. Don’t let us trouble you.

For those interested in sense and reason it’s clear that there is neither a requirement for nor logic behind games having to be played in a third province.

The essence of a neutral venue is that neither team has home advantage and that each set of fans is treated equitably. The distance that Armagh fans are being asked to travel is not equitable. Other stadia that are available would have been more equitable. Cavan had it been available would have been ideal and it’s absence, Clones.

It’s not Roscommon’s fault. Double header pricing, fuller stands for the tv pictures and a cheaper broadcast are the drivers here.

The idea that Roscommon were being pushed around here is the invention of a 3rd rate troll

You’re out on an island on this one yet you keep doubling down on it.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: sid waddell on July 03, 2018, 10:36:54 AM
Neutral venues for Round 4 qualifier games should be abolished.

They routinely result in poor attendances which make for poor spectacles and make the games come across as a third rate product.

There aren't neutral venues for the other three qualifier rounds, so why Round 4?

I'm sure home venues were used in at least one championship in the 2000s - they certainly were in 2006 anyway.

Personally I'd like to see teams which lose provincial finals get home advantage, but even tossing a coin for home venue would be better than the current arrangement.

Some these fabled "double headers" are ridiculous. Few supporters of the teams involved in the second match bother to get in for the first match, few supporters of the teams involved in the first match bother to stick around for the second match.

They always have an atmosphere like an airport, with people constantly coming in, leaving and moving around.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 03, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Can't stand double headers.
Somehow they always manage to make the occasion feel smaller and less important.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 03, 2018, 10:51:49 AM
Neutral venues for Round 4 qualifier games should be abolished.

They routinely result in poor attendances which make for poor spectacles and make the games come across as a third rate product.

There aren't neutral venues for the other three qualifier rounds, so why Round 4?

I'm sure home venues were used in at least one championship in the 2000s - they certainly were in 2006 anyway.

Personally I'd like to see teams which lose provincial finals get home advantage, but even tossing a coin for home venue would be better than the current arrangement.

Some these fabled "double headers" are ridiculous. Few supporters of the teams involved in the second match bother to get in for the first match, few supporters of the teams involved in the first match bother to stick around for the second match.

They always have an atmosphere like an airport, with people constantly coming in, leaving and moving around.

I can't see why the provincial finalists should get home advantage. Roscommon had to beat Leitrim to make a provincial final. Do they deserve home advantage over a team that has won three games? Or the Munster beaten finalists who may have got there with a single win over a division 2/3 team.

Personally I've no problem with a double header like this weekend. Should be two decent even enough games. I can think of some great days that were double headers. The year Fermanagh beat Armagh croke park was bouncing. The year Down beat Kerry was a good double header as well. If you like watching football I'm not sure why you'd be annoyed at taking in two decent games.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: illdecide on July 03, 2018, 10:54:17 AM
As an Armagh man i don't care that much where the game is played TBH, we could have tossed for home advantage with Roscommon and wouldn't have cared if we'd have had to play in the Hyde. We have to try and win the game no matter where the game is and Armagh will play as well in Portlaois as they will in Clones, Armagh are the underdogs for the game and rightly so. We have a chance and if we cut out the wides and put a bit of a performance in then we can beat Roscommon but we'll need Roscommon to play like they did in the 2nd half against Galway for us to win.
I do believe if it's tight coming to the last 5-10 mins Armagh will win as they seem to have a we edge on the fitness side of things on most teams but we could very easy be coming into the last 10 mins down by 10 pts...

Anyway who's for pints before the game :D
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 03, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
Neutral venues for Round 4 qualifier games should be abolished.

They routinely result in poor attendances which make for poor spectacles and make the games come across as a third rate product.

There aren't neutral venues for the other three qualifier rounds, so why Round 4?

I'm sure home venues were used in at least one championship in the 2000s - they certainly were in 2006 anyway.

Personally I'd like to see teams which lose provincial finals get home advantage, but even tossing a coin for home venue would be better than the current arrangement.

Some these fabled "double headers" are ridiculous. Few supporters of the teams involved in the second match bother to get in for the first match, few supporters of the teams involved in the first match bother to stick around for the second match.

They always have an atmosphere like an airport, with people constantly coming in, leaving and moving around.

I can't see why the provincial finalists should get home advantage. Roscommon had to beat Leitrim to make a provincial final. Do they deserve home advantage over a team that has won three games? Or the Munster beaten finalists who may have got there with a single win over a division 2/3 team.

Personally I've no problem with a double header like this weekend. Should be two decent even enough games. I can think of some great days that were double headers. The year Fermanagh beat Armagh croke park was bouncing. The year Down beat Kerry was a good double header as well. If you like watching football I'm not sure why you'd be annoyed at taking in two decent games.

You should have been there the day Mayo beat Tyrone. Some atmosphere that day
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: smelmoth on July 03, 2018, 11:40:57 AM
As an Armagh man i don't care that much where the game is played TBH, we could have tossed for home advantage with Roscommon and wouldn't have cared if we'd have had to play in the Hyde. We have to try and win the game no matter where the game is and Armagh will play as well in Portlaois as they will in Clones, Armagh are the underdogs for the game and rightly so. We have a chance and if we cut out the wides and put a bit of a performance in then we can beat Roscommon but we'll need Roscommon to play like they did in the 2nd half against Galway for us to win.
I do believe if it's tight coming to the last 5-10 mins Armagh will win as they seem to have a we edge on the fitness side of things on most teams but we could very easy be coming into the last 10 mins down by 10 pts...

Anyway who's for pints before the game :D

Win, lose or draw the venue won’t impact on the result.

I do object to the venue choice because of the impact on fans and the unequal impact on fans.

Separate issues
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on July 03, 2018, 11:44:46 AM
Why Navan and Portloaise over Tullamore for any of these 4 games? It's better located for 3 of them and a much nicer ground than Navan
Probably because there’s 4 Senior A club games fixed for this weekend between Saturday and Sunday.
Plus our County Board are fairly stubborn.
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Rossfan on July 03, 2018, 12:37:50 PM
I expect Portlaoise has a bigger capacity than Tullamore?
Title: Re: Football qualifier route 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on July 03, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
I expect Portlaoise has a bigger capacity than Tullamore?

Yes Tullamore  has issue with one end which isn't good for spectators or the Tv cameras .

Portlaoise is a great town for beer just ask the Dubs their is usually music in the street or in most of the pubs