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Tyrone fans, you can't take them anywhere.

Meath fans, they've no thugs to bring them anywhere anymore.

If Tyrone had a few thugs left they might win a bit more often.

I think Dublin and Kerry would have scored 7-30 today. Ultimately that's why i don't think Mayo will win the AI.

Don't know where Roscommon go after that. I think the biggest issue was their inability to dig in and at least make it respectable. But the Connacht title means nothing after a tanking like that.

Tyrone will have to prove they belong in the conversation the next day out.  Seeing as the best Kerry or Mayo can do against Dublin is a draw, what chances Tyrone and Dublin draw?

In fact, what odds both semifinals go to replays?

The best Mayo have done is a draw.

The best Kerry have done is lose.

And thus far Tyrone have failed to qualify for the latter stages and be part of the discussion.  New territory for Tyrone.  Who knows how they will handle it.

We know Kerry haven't had it against the Dubs.

We know Mayo have had it but shot themselves in the foot.

We don't know whether Tyrone have it or have not.

The known against the unknown.

The only team to topple Dublin under Gavin have been an Ulster side who played a defend in numbers, counter attacking game - similar to Tyrone.

They had Michael Murphy, Mc fadden and Mc Brearty

You have your best inside forwards on the bench.

It will be a game for the ages and one that I doubt we will come out the right side of.
The biggest factor will be the referee.

On Saturday we got plenty from the referee - thought he was harsh on Armagh although maybe I was feeling sorry for them given the hammering they were taking. All the 50/50 calls went our way.

The Dublin media & pundits will go into overdrive in the lead up to this to plant seeds in his head about our tackiling

A refereeing performance like Lane on Saturday would screw us. He was blowing Monaghan up on everything while letting Dublin away with much more aggression and hands on Monaghan players.

I think Coldrick or Gough are the only referees you'd currently trust to apply things in a consistent manner.

I dont think it is exclusive to Lane though Bomber.

Every game the Dubs play there seems to be 'hometown' decisions.

Our tackling is really first class but if we get penalised for it because we are playing the Dubs we are in serious bother

Lane has never been a good ref for Dublin . Teams like Tyrone blame referees because they haven't been good enough in recent years .

Lane did Dublin's bidding for them on Saturday.

Yet another Dub holocaust denier.

Referees favour your side, just try and be honest with the forum.

When you were good enough you didn't look for excuses beforehand . let's hope your team somehow have more cojones for battle then you

It will be a game for the ages and one that I doubt we will come out the right side of.
The biggest factor will be the referee.

On Saturday we got plenty from the referee - thought he was harsh on Armagh although maybe I was feeling sorry for them given the hammering they were taking. All the 50/50 calls went our way.

The Dublin media & pundits will go into overdrive in the lead up to this to plant seeds in his head about our tackiling

A refereeing performance like Lane on Saturday would screw us. He was blowing Monaghan up on everything while letting Dublin away with much more aggression and hands on Monaghan players.

I think Coldrick or Gough are the only referees you'd currently trust to apply things in a consistent manner.

I dont think it is exclusive to Lane though Bomber.

Every game the Dubs play there seems to be 'hometown' decisions.

Our tackling is really first class but if we get penalised for it because we are playing the Dubs we are in serious bother

Lane has never been a good ref for Dublin . Teams like Tyrone blame referees because they haven't been good enough in recent years .

Did you actually watch the Dublin game?

He blew Monaghan at every opportunity and ignored many indiscretions by the Dubs (Cooper for example)

No self respecting Dublin fan would say anything other then Cooper made a meal of it . There was contact but it was minimal . Monaghan statistically this year have conceded a lot of frees . Also when you consistently give the ball to the opposition all the time you invite frees as players get tired . Monaghan had a very negative game plan and haven't the speed on the counterattack to play like that in CP.
The manager has done a great job and extracted as much as he could .2 Ulster titles is a great return off a pretty average group of players

Again teams that are good enough don't point out referees beforehand . Is it a case Tyrone are getting their excuses in early ?

It will be a game for the ages and one that I doubt we will come out the right side of.
The biggest factor will be the referee.

On Saturday we got plenty from the referee - thought he was harsh on Armagh although maybe I was feeling sorry for them given the hammering they were taking. All the 50/50 calls went our way.

The Dublin media & pundits will go into overdrive in the lead up to this to plant seeds in his head about our tackiling

A refereeing performance like Lane on Saturday would screw us. He was blowing Monaghan up on everything while letting Dublin away with much more aggression and hands on Monaghan players.

I think Coldrick or Gough are the only referees you'd currently trust to apply things in a consistent manner.

I dont think it is exclusive to Lane though Bomber.

Every game the Dubs play there seems to be 'hometown' decisions.

Our tackling is really first class but if we get penalised for it because we are playing the Dubs we are in serious bother

Lane has never been a good ref for Dublin . Teams like Tyrone blame referees because they haven't been good enough in recent years .

Huge pressure on Tyrone heading into this game . They are the new team on the block with a young team ,pace , highly skilled young players . Really the pressure is on them to deliver

Dublin are an ageing team defensive team who rarely score anymore . We are travelling in hope . As Sid says above our record of winning all Ireland's in 2011, 2013,2015 and 2016 is over rated . I'm not sure what shit kick a bucket county he's from but obviously I missed their dominance in the same period

Leaving that aside his synopsis is correct . Dublin are on the slide and really people are expecting Tyrone to deliver the victory to put Dublins carcass in the glue factory once and for all

Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.

How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? 

It's very easy for the faster guy to position himself under a wayaward kick before players with the turning radius of small trucks like the O'Sheas.

Until COC suddenly becomes faster and he learns how to tackle he's a serious liability tracking back. He's starting to pick up the reputation for dirt that he has had here and in Dublin for years on a national scale now, so his room for collar tackles and body checks is becoming much lower. If you really think he can mark someone like Conor Devanney or Sean Mulholly go right ahead but McStay will look at COC's channel as an open invitation to attack.

Have Roscommon morphed into some sort of a footballing stronghold recently ?

I must have missed that bit.

To be fair that was the best chance you'll have get of being in an all ireland semi final maybe ever.

A cold hard ruthess anaylsis would say you blew a huge opportunity against a Mayo team who played Keegan aside as poorly as they possibly could.

Where are all these great forwards Roscommon are supposed to have?

Yet scored more in their senior championship debut in Croke Park against Mayo than Dublin's fancy dan's did in the All-Ireland last year...

I seem to recall picking up a trophy at the end of it though..............

That's exactly my point, we shouldn't have wayward kickouts, nothing to do with mobility.

Cillian is slow alright but he's a decent tackler as evidenced by the amount of turnovers he wins. He's also our best passer and would be able to feed the men inside. He could rotate with Loftus as needed. With himself, Andy and Loftus on the pitch, we'd have a much bigger scoring threat.

If you had a real scoring forward line Andy would be the impact sub off the bench.

Agreed but it's not like there's a whole bunch of top quality inside forwards who are just being ignored.

Conor Loftus gives a decent impersonation of one quite regularly but it seems being able to score is an optional extra in Mayo

That's exactly my point, we shouldn't have wayward kickouts, nothing to do with mobility.

Cillian is slow alright but he's a decent tackler as evidenced by the amount of turnovers he wins. He's also our best passer and would be able to feed the men inside. He could rotate with Loftus as needed. With himself, Andy and Loftus on the pitch, we'd have a much bigger scoring threat.

If you had a real scoring forward line Andy would be the impact sub off the bench.

Cillian doesn't have the work rate for a HF? Are you for real? He's one of the hardest working forwards around ffs.

How exactly does the mobility of the roscommon MF explain why we lost two of our own kickouts unchallenged?? 

It's very easy for the faster guy to position himself under a wayaward kick before players with the turning radius of small trucks like the O'Sheas.

Until COC suddenly becomes faster and he learns how to tackle he's a serious liability tracking back. He's starting to pick up the reputation for dirt that he has had here and in Dublin for years on a national scale now, so his room for collar tackles and body checks is becoming much lower. If you really think he can mark someone like Conor Devanney or Sean Mulholly go right ahead but McStay will look at COC's channel as an open invitation to attack.

Have Roscommon morphed into some sort of a footballing stronghold recently ?

I must have missed that bit.

To be fair that was the best chance you'll have get of being in an all ireland semi final maybe ever.

A cold hard ruthess anaylsis would say you blew a huge opportunity against a Mayo team who played Keegan aside as poorly as they possibly could.

Where are all these great forwards Roscommon are supposed to have?

Don't mind them Syfīn, we came of age today and proved we can play in Croke Park and compete with a top 3 team.
Heroism all around, great start , totally lost our way, better players didn't perform, came back and in a nip and tuck contest with one of the top teams held our own.
Proud of our gallant lads today and hoping they can apply the coup de gras to an ailing Mayowestros outfit the next day.
By the way the whinging on the mayoblog is amusing.
Also seems inebriated Rhubarbs were fighting among themselves on trains tonight.
Ah well....

To think the 'experienced' heads in this team are the likes of Niall Mc and Sean Mul who have barely more than 12 months senior experience each. Both are already leaders in their lines. There is so much potential for good days ahead if we keep these lads together. They have a fearlessness that has been missing in Roscommon football for far too long.

Having to pick two of Cian Connolly, Diarmuid Murtagh and Donie Smith to start is an incredible luxury for us. Donie came on and scored a lovely point from play but that free was something out of the top drawer. When McStay subs out both Murtaghs he's putting a huge amount of trust into Donie because frees and the winning or losing of the game will fall to him, and he's rarely let us down - Salthill against the wind last year, putting the knife to Galway this year and then today. The lad is built for the pressure kicks.

Put the boot in next Monday. There were a lot of quiet performances from our star players today and hopefully they will rectify that given a second chance.

Gas how Mc Stay is now the Messiah after all the abuse he shipped from Roscommon fans

As i said before this game i had a feeling it would finish in a draw and that's how it went. As for those complaining about the quality of the game i think a few forget recent AI finals were worse and in 1998 Galway Roscommon played out 0-11 draw and back then Galway were totally written off after it.   Todays game was intriguing contest played in the rain and where defenses were on top, give me that type of game every day of the week instead of Dublin,Kerry or Mayo hammering some poorly organized team.

Neither mayo or Roscommon are in Galway 98- 01 league you left that bit out .

I think Roscommon had a great chance yesterday. Mayo are playing too many games for a team with their mileage .

Replay a fair result no side deserved to lose. The guts and determination showed by both sides was superb they gave their all to cause. Hopefully the replay is as good if not better.

It could only be better. Outside guts and determination the quality was fairly thin

Hope genuinely that Monaghan put up a better show against Dublin than they did 3 years ago,when the game was effectively over after 15 minutes.Like Tyrone Dublin have not been tested yet.

As double all -ireland champions we don't require "testing" .