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[J70]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

[Gmac]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

[J70]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

[whitey]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

Comey seems to indicate there is no problem with the Flynn/Kislyiak call, so frame would be a pretty good description

[J70]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

Comey seems to indicate there is no problem with the Flynn/Kislyiak call, so frame would be a pretty good description

You'll have to forgive my skepticism about him being "framed" given the two guilty pleas, the sacking by Trump and the general conduct of the William Barr justice department.

[whitey]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

Comey seems to indicate there is no problem with the Flynn/Kislyiak call, so frame would be a pretty good description

You'll have to forgive my skepticism about him being "framed" given the two guilty pleas, the sacking by Trump and the general conduct of the William Barr justice department.

If it was all on the up and up, why weren't all the notes turned over to Flynn's defense team as they were legally obligated to do ?  (Or are they just honest mistakes like the 17 errors in the FISA applications)

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Ah - we're back to believing Comey now?

[Gmac]

Ah - we're back to believing Comey now?

and John Bolton

[J70]

Ah - we're back to believing Comey now?

and John Bolton

Bolton's one of your own. (as was Comey and Mueller originally!)

Problem for you with Bolton is that he is one in a long line of people to exit the administration and reveal what they witnessed. He didn't really tell us much that we didn't already know or suspect.

So its basically either they are all lying and making shit up and Trump is completely different behind closed doors than he is in public, or there must be serious issues behind the scenes.

It should also be noted that Trump, famously litigious, has not sued any of these authors or publishers. Bolton, in particular, apparently, is a fastidious note taker, and probably has the goods sitting there waiting for the lawsuit.

[J70]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

Comey seems to indicate there is no problem with the Flynn/Kislyiak call, so frame would be a pretty good description

You'll have to forgive my skepticism about him being "framed" given the two guilty pleas, the sacking by Trump and the general conduct of the William Barr justice department.

If it was all on the up and up, why weren't all the notes turned over to Flynn's defense team as they were legally obligated to do ?  (Or are they just honest mistakes like the 17 errors in the FISA applications)

No idea. I'll leave that up to the investigators. Where was Flynn's no-doubt-expensive legal team? Why did he plead guilty twice? Why did Trump fire him? Why did his justice department prosecute? Where is the evidence that Obama framed him as Gmac suggests?

[Gmac]

Ah - we're back to believing Comey now?

and John Bolton

Bolton's one of your own. (as was Comey and Mueller originally!)

Problem for you with Bolton is that he is one in a long line of people to exit the administration and reveal what they witnessed. He didn't really tell us much that we didn't already know or suspect.

So its basically either they are all lying and making shit up and Trump is completely different behind closed doors than he is in public, or there must be serious issues behind the scenes.

It should also be noted that Trump, famously litigious, has not sued any of these authors or publishers. Bolton, in particular, apparently, is a fastidious note taker, and probably has the goods sitting there waiting for the lawsuit.

he on cnn yet ?

[whitey]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

Comey seems to indicate there is no problem with the Flynn/Kislyiak call, so frame would be a pretty good description

You'll have to forgive my skepticism about him being "framed" given the two guilty pleas, the sacking by Trump and the general conduct of the William Barr justice department.

If it was all on the up and up, why weren't all the notes turned over to Flynn's defense team as they were legally obligated to do ?  (Or are they just honest mistakes like the 17 errors in the FISA applications)

No idea. I'll leave that up to the investigators. Where was Flynn's no-doubt-expensive legal team? Why did he plead guilty twice? Why did Trump fire him? Why did his justice department prosecute? Where is the evidence that Obama framed him as Gmac suggests?

J70-have you been following this at all?

Original defense team were seriously compromised

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/29/flynns-original-defense-team-repeatedly-rejected-congressional-immunity-overtures/

As Hillary said when they left the White House they were "dead broke" due to legal fees....Same would have happened to Flynn and he didn't have the friends in high places the Clintons had to bail him out and they threatened to go after his entire family. (I actually know of someone this happened to)

He took a deal-was supposed to get a suspended sentence, and move on with his life-except Judge Sullivan didn't get that part of the memo

[J70]

Circuit court orders lower court to dismiss charges against Michael Flynn.

and according to new fbi notes disclosed Obama was all over this .

Meaning...??

notes say Biden suggests Logan act ( he said a few weeks ago he knew nothing about it )
Obama wanted the right people to go after (frame) Flynn

"Frame"?

Comey seems to indicate there is no problem with the Flynn/Kislyiak call, so frame would be a pretty good description

You'll have to forgive my skepticism about him being "framed" given the two guilty pleas, the sacking by Trump and the general conduct of the William Barr justice department.

If it was all on the up and up, why weren't all the notes turned over to Flynn's defense team as they were legally obligated to do ?  (Or are they just honest mistakes like the 17 errors in the FISA applications)

No idea. I'll leave that up to the investigators. Where was Flynn's no-doubt-expensive legal team? Why did he plead guilty twice? Why did Trump fire him? Why did his justice department prosecute? Where is the evidence that Obama framed him as Gmac suggests?

J70-have you been following this at all?

Original defense team were seriously compromised

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/29/flynns-original-defense-team-repeatedly-rejected-congressional-immunity-overtures/

As Hillary said when they left the White House they were "dead broke" due to legal fees....Same would have happened to Flynn and he didn't have the friends in high places the Clintons had to bail him out and they threatened to go after his entire family. (I actually know of someone this happened to)

He took a deal-was supposed to get a suspended sentence, and move on with his life-except Judge Sullivan didn't get that part of the memo

Have not been following with your level of interest probably, lol.

I just find it very hard to believe that Obama would try to "frame" Flynn two weeks before he was due to step down or that Trump wouldn't fight back at the time. What would be the point for Obama?

[whitey]

J70-delegitimize Trump and cause chaos in early days of new administration

LOL-the person who would have been responsible for the fight back would have been Flynn

Again, it all comes back to Michael Lewis' book and the chaos that ensued in the early days of the new administration

[J70]

J70-delegitimize Trump and cause chaos in early days of new administration

LOL-the person who would have been responsible for the fight back would have been Flynn

Again, it all comes back to Michael Lewis' book and the chaos that ensued in the early days of the new administration

Again, what would be the point? He was going to be president for four years, at least. I don't see how it would benefit Obama if things got off to a rocky start for Trump (as it turned out, its not as if he needed help anyway).

But, WTF do I know? We'll see what becomes of it. At this point I'm not seeing much.