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#1
Quote from: JoG2 on Today at 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on Today at 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on Today at 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on Today at 02:10:53 PMI don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

you have got it all wrong. Its all money. Grab all association and what have you..........
I wouldn't go that far but is people in Croke Park whose remit is to maximise profits and at times they need to be reined in.

To what end? Who is benefiting from these profits?
Whoever is benefiting does not give a licence to do whatever you want, no matter how unscrupulous or adversely affecting our games, in order to make profits.
#2
Quote from: tonto1888 on Today at 03:31:42 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on Today at 02:10:53 PMI don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

you have got it all wrong. Its all money. Grab all association and what have you..........
I wouldn't go that far but is people in Croke Park whose remit is to maximise profits and at times they need to be reined in.
#3
Quote from: armaghniac on Today at 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on Today at 02:10:53 PMI don't know what the motivation was but there certainly is some logic in the 3 teams going through other than money. It greatly reduces the number of dead rubbers and increases the importance of topping the group.

It also evens up provincial issues.
I suppose how we view things: I view it as extra games more £££ for GAA: extra games I'd like to see is replays rather than penalty shoot-outs, certainly for a Provincial final and from AI quarter-finals on..
#4
Quote from: tonto1888 on Today at 01:00:34 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on Today at 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on Today at 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on Today at 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.

if this was actually the case we wouldnt have season tickets or packages for the all ireland group stages would we
Or to entice people in... do u think 2nd and 3rd place play-offs are necessary for next round of football rather than top 2 go into quarter-final? Poorly thought out cynical way to make money while Ulster final reduced to penalties because we haven't time for a replay...
#5
Quote from: bennydorano on Today at 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on Today at 07:51:43 AMThe GAA must be the only organisation where fans want them to move with the times yet remain stuck in the past
Perfectly put.
The modern business phenomenon of trying to clean as much money off people as possible is one we could do without in the GAA.
#6
Quote from: armaghniac on Today at 12:11:57 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on Today at 12:01:14 AMIt is GAA elite's attempts to carve up our national games and privatise and sell off the profitable, prestige games. Our best and most high profile games should be available to all grass roots GAA members via our national broadcaster. Jarlath's efforts to play the man and not the ball in this debate betrays the weakness of his argument.

Only the high profile games, so half the counties would never appear? Is that the GAA you want?
That is some interpretation on what I said! 😆 whatever games are covered should be free to air but they are selling off the profitable high prestige games. Its not that complicated!
#7
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 11:44:45 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 11:08:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.

Is it really though?
Not to you obviously

I don't believe there is a significant cohort who as you say:

1) Are elderly
2) Gave their life to the GAA
3) Are too sick to go to games
4) Cannot afford to go to a game
5) Family cannot afford to buy them a ticket
6) Family will not take them to the pub to see it.

This is the sentimental nonsense Jarlath Burns was talking about.
There you go... I'm alrite fuc u Jack... as for Jarlath Burns he's part of that corporate mindset likes to make grand speeches in the Hogan Stand and tell us what a great club man he is, but dismisses the disenfranchised grassroots when he's challenged.. 

But the grassroots have never had it better! Every hole in the hedge has a state of the art hub now or is building one.
How do you expect the GAA to continue to fund these? Magic money tree?

I also think you are in the minority on this.

It is GAA elite's attempts to carve up our national games and privatise and sell off the profitable, prestige games. Our best and most high profile games should be available to all grass roots GAA members via our national broadcaster. Jarlath's efforts to play the man and not the ball in this debate betrays the weakness of his argument.
#8
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.

Is it really though?
Not to you obviously

I don't believe there is a significant cohort who as you say:

1) Are elderly
2) Gave their life to the GAA
3) Are too sick to go to games
4) Cannot afford to go to a game
5) Family cannot afford to buy them a ticket
6) Family will not take them to the pub to see it.

This is the sentimental nonsense Jarlath Burns was talking about.
There you go... I'm alrite fuc u Jack... as for Jarlath Burns he's part of that corporate mindset likes to make grand speeches in the Hogan Stand and tell us what a great club man he is, but dismisses the disenfranchised grassroots when he's challenged.. 
#9
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.

Is it really though?
Not to you obviously
#10
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 14, 2024, 05:38:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 14, 2024, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.

What size do you think that very specific demographic is?
I don't known. Even a few is too many.
#11
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 02:29:17 PMYou mean not providing free entertainment to casual armchair followers of gaelic games ?
No I mean there's elderly people, gave their life to GAA, not well enough to go to games that can't afford to pay and families can't afford it or to take crowd kids to a local pub.
#12
Quote from: NAG1 on May 14, 2024, 02:31:51 PMThis used to be a singing contest?
Aye.. snowdrops and dafffodils  :o
#13
Watch this space with Jarlath. Grand speeches in the Hogan Stand all very well but as far as I can see hes another driven by corporate mentality of GAA hierarchy. Never trusted him since he suggested the Irish anthem and flag could be removed to placate unionism, then backtracked when he seen the reaction.
Burns has seized on one sentence of what Sean said in order to deflect from selling off our games thereby leaving many GAA lifelong grassroots members behind.
#14
Quote from: tiempo on May 12, 2024, 07:02:14 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 12, 2024, 06:48:43 PMNiblock thinks the Anglo-Celt is the most precious piece of silverware in Ireland. Odd take.

Northern Ireland?
Ulster
#15
Losing 3 major penno shoot-outs in 3 years.. poor enough 😒