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Just started this to avoid confusion with the 2020 thread.
Great result for Castletown the other night!

Ye Ctown the better team hit a lot of wides aswell. Borris/kilcotton very lucky to get a draw. Rdowney looked very good again Camross.

Great results for Castletown, Abbeyleix & Ballyfin.
Abbeyleix might be a little deflated right now, but I think when they reflect on things this point may be a very valuable one. I genuinely think they will beat Camross.
Worrying times for Ballinakill.
Borris Kilcotton will improve.
Rosenallis have Keating and possibly Dooley to return.

Dooley? Thought he was tied up w/ the rugby?

Borris/ Kilcotton may improve short-term, but long term? Their second team is old, and what have they coming through underage?

I just read the report of their second team's game. Jesus that is an old team. There must be a large number of young lads hurling junior?

Dooley is tied up currently. He is hardly tied up on a permanent contract or for 12 months of the year at this stage? Or perhaps he is?

I have no idea what contract he's on, but if he's with Leinster u20s, he won't be hurling. I think they get a week or two break in October, and he may be available for a game then, but depends what way the Rosenalis games fall, I suppose.

This weekend
Winners in capitals.

Friday
SHC: Castletown v THE HARPS
IHC: CLOUGH BALLACOLLA v Clonad

Saturday
SHC: BORRIS/KILCOTTON v Camross
        RATHDOWNEY/ERRILL v Abbeyleix


PIHC: Colt/Shanahoe v PORTLAOISE

IHC: Mountrath v THE HARPS
        Mountmellick v TRUMERA

Sunday
SHC: CLOUGH BALLACOLLA v Rosenallis

PIHC:  BALLINAKILL v Rathdowney/Errill
          BALLYFIN v Slieve Bloom
          Camross v CLONASLEE

IHC:   Borris Kilcotton v PRT

JHC:   Abbeyleix v BALLYPICKAS
          Mountrath v CASTLETOWN
          CAMROSS v Colt/Shanahoe
          RATHDOWNEY ERRILL v Portlaoise

C/B and Rosenalis a draw?!

Think Camross could rattle B/K.

Castletown to beat the Harps.

Quote from: burdizzo on September 09, 2021, 05:58:09 PM
C/B and Rosenalis a draw?!

Think Camross could rattle B/K.

Well spotted. Fixed that there. Can't see Rosenallis keeping it tight unfortunately.

Castletown first team into the qfinal good game last night Harps got a ball of soft frees Ctown hit 3.11 from play. Rdowney and Borris /kcotton to win today.

Rosenallis have some job on their hands to stay senior

Hard to see Rosenallis staying up hard to do both codes with a small panel. Cbolla should top the group looking like it could be a Rdowney v Cbolla final but Borris/kcotton will think different i think.

I see David Dooley did in fact play at the weekend. Not that it made much difference...

I think Borris/K could catch Rathdowney the next day.
Especially with Ross King not playing. Would give them a massive boost.

Rosenallis and The Harps could be a nervy game. The Harps surely have better hurlers.

Ballacolla will beat Castletown and I think Camross will overcome Abbeyleix.

Intermediate looks very open. Portlaoise and Ballinakill are probably the teams to beat. Wouldn't rule out Ballyfin; the weekends loss might be the kick they needed. Colt-Shanahoe likely to go down. Be interesting to see if the amalgamation could withstand that.

Quote from: Robbo on September 14, 2021, 01:39:16 PM
Colt-Shanahoe likely to go down. Be interesting to see if the amalgamation could withstand that.

To break up would be suicidal for both clubs.

Quote from: burdizzo on September 14, 2021, 02:02:38 PM

Quote from: Robbo on September 14, 2021, 01:39:16 PM
Colt-Shanahoe likely to go down. Be interesting to see if the amalgamation could withstand that.

To break up would be suicidal for both clubs.

Perhaps but things don't seem great there.
A mid-Laois area team is something that needs to be considered.

Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2021, 11:25:31 PM
I just read the report of their second team's game. Jesus that is an old team. There must be a large number of young lads hurling junior?

Dooley is tied up currently. He is hardly tied up on a permanent contract or for 12 months of the year at this stage? Or perhaps he is?

Borris Kilcotton done good work, getting lads to tog out and beat Clonad Intermediate to spare their Junior team to win they county final,
Will prob make the intermediate final now too, Ballacolla look to be well ahead of the pack & unlikely to lose anymore.

Rosenallis have to be dead certs to go down, very poor on Sunday didn't look like the wanted to be there, Ballacolla flying it at the moment but bigger tests to come,
Semi finals are still going to be the big 4, Ballacolla, Rathdowney Errill, Borris Kilcotton & Camross will beat Abbeyleix and re group.

County panel back on a gym programme since last Monday night.

Any new names on the county panel?

Abbeyleix will fancy beating camross.

Camross, Borris Kilcotton, The Harps & Ballacolla with wins this weekend is by guesses!

Very hard to call Aleix v Camross and Borris/kcotton vRdowney/Errill. Cbolla will beat Ctown but maybe not by as much as people think. Rosenallis have to perform or else there gone.

Camross to beat Abbeyleix by 2
Rathdowney-Errill to beat Borris-Kilcotton by 3
Clough-Ballacolla by 14 over Castletown
The Harps by 8 over Rosenallis

I dunno - I think Abbeyleix might beat Camross, and that R/E will beat B/K by a good bit.

RE without Ross King weakens them to be fair.

I think BK will be more up for it with a point to prove.

Ballacolla will beat Castletown but hopefully it's tight for at least a half. And I think it will be.

I think The Harps could hammer Rosenallis and other game is too hard to call.

Anyone any thoughts on the Premier Intermediate?
Ballyfin, RE, Ballinakill and Slieve Bloom all with a win each.
I think Ballyfin will beat RE and Ballinakill will beat Slieve Bloom.
That would allow RE through in 3rd place with Ballyfin topping the group ahead of Ballinakill on head-to-head.

The other group should see comfortable wins for Portlaoise and Camross with them finishing 1st and 2nd respectively. Clonaslee will take 3rd and Colt/Shanahoe looked doomed already.

You'd say that Camross haven't been going well, and that they have played two very good teams and done ok
But so have Abbeyleix.
They are much faster & more mobile at the right end of the field.
I think the weekend will start with a "shock".
Abbeyleix by 5.

Camross looked a different team last night than the previous 2 . Fitness and tactical prowess got them through which were lacking for the first two games .

I think Borris will win tonight in a bit of a shock.

Quote from: Robbo on September 24, 2021, 06:17:54 PM
I think Borris will win tonight in a bit of a shock.

And to add that it shouldn't really be a shock. They beat Rathdowney Errill last year.

Excellent call . Borris/K to me are now favourites to me . Hit some
Serious wides nearing 20 but final quarter Never missed a thing.  Decent crowd for a Friday evening

Quote from: Spiritof86 on September 24, 2021, 09:23:11 PM
Excellent call . Borris/K to me are now favourites to me . Hit some
Serious wides nearing 20 but final quarter Never missed a thing.  Decent crowd for a Friday evening

Not too sure about B/K as favourites although they had a good win tonight. Clough-Ballacolla beat them well enough in the county final just over a month ago. R/E were missing Ross King tonight and the likes of Eric Killeen, Paddy McKane and Mark Kavanagh still getting up to speed. They'll coast into the semi's and I'd pick R/E to beat B/K in a semi or a final.

Think Borris will improve even more with 4 weeks before a semi-final.
They've players coming back from injury and young lads like Tynan and Quinlan.
Wouldn't back against them.

RE used Rafter from their Premier Intermediates. Big loss that might cost them a semi-final place. Though I think they'll go threw even if they lose.

Big win for Rosenallis last night great finished to it. John Maher was outstanding again and surely has to be called into the laois team. Castletown hurled well for 30 mins then Cbolla upper a gear and won easy. Rosenallis and Castletown are away from relagaton now and can give qfinals a lash but it will probably be there last game of the year.

Have to admit I didn't think Rosenallis would have that in them; fair play. Great achievement.
Disappointing for Harps, probably favou0rites for the drop now.
Not sure John Maher has the size for county. Worth a look maybe.

Sounds like Castletown put it up to Ballacolla in the first game. Picky is hitting serious scores.

Ballyfin had a comfortable win in the Premier Int. Rathdowney didn't make any subs trying to keep their juniors together. Match was over at the water break. They should have the football finished this week and will have 3 weeks go train and prepare for a semi-final.

RE and Ballinakill into the quarter-finals and were likey to see Ballinakill v portlaoise in one semi-final.

Predicting Ballyfin v Portlaoise final with s Bloom to relegate Colt Shanahoe

Bit of a disaster for The Harps if they go straight back down. They got the ideal group out of the two but two disappointing defeats to Castletown and Rosenallis.

They would have been determined to stay up this season with some strong underage talent coming through to back them up in the future. To be fair, the Covid outbreak in the camp before the championship began set them back a bit and was unfortunate.

Abbeyleix have to be favourites in the relegation final now and they probably deserve to stay up more so because of their admirable performances against B/K and R/E in the group stages.

There's hardly a provincial club championship this year, is there?

Quote from: burdizzo on September 27, 2021, 06:50:14 PM
There's hardly a provincial club championship this year, is there?

Pretty sure it's all due to start in October. Draws have been made as far as I know .

October seems really early.

When's our final? November, sometime?

Quote from: Robbo on September 27, 2021, 09:18:10 PM
October seems really early.

Yes it does actually . October 20th apparently but that could be just the Ulster Club hurling commencing etc .

Quote from: burdizzo on September 27, 2021, 06:50:14 PM
There's hardly a provincial club championship this year, is there?

Provincial Championship first round on the master plan due to start for senior hurling 27/28 November

Provincial finals 7/8 January

All Ireland Final Feb

When covid eventually disappears

All club games will be finished in the calendar year.

There is a rumour that it is only for Senior clubs this year.
Think thay would be very hard on our Premier Intermediate sides. Any of Ballyfin, Ballinakill or Portlaoise could do well.

Quote from: Robbo on September 28, 2021, 10:26:15 AM
There is a rumour that it is only for Senior clubs this year.
Think thay would be very hard on our Premier Intermediate sides. Any of Ballyfin, Ballinakill or Portlaoise could do well.

Dates are up and Draws are made in Munster for both codes at senior intermediate and junior club anyways.

Thanks clonadmad.
I did check the leinster one but found only old fixtures.

Leinster matches are special for the teams who get there.

Quote from: Robbo on September 28, 2021, 10:39:40 AM
Thanks clonadmad.
I did check the leinster one but found only old fixtures.

Leinster matches are special for the teams who get there.

nothing for leinster as of yet on their website

https://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/club-championship-2021 (https://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/club-championship-2021)

Any views on the hurling games this weekend? I hear Castletown are down a few with long term injuries.

Quote from: Laois man on October 06, 2021, 03:05:45 PM
Any views on the hurling games this weekend? I hear Castletown are down a few with long term injuries.

Even with no injuries I'd still pick Camross to win that one.

Rathdowney will hammer Rosenallis I'd say. Hope they've injuries back.

In the relegation, I've a sneaky feeling Fintan will get The Harps over the line. If they limit frees they'll have better forwards maybe.

In the Senior A:
Ballinakill should comfortably beat Clonaslee and the best game of the weekend could be Camross vs Rathdowney. Have a feeling Camross might win it which would see them play Ballyfin in the semi-final. Ballinakill v Portlaoise in the other.

Be surprised if Slieve Bloom don't relegate Colt Shanahoe.

Quote from: clonadmad on September 28, 2021, 10:46:58 AM

Quote from: Robbo on September 28, 2021, 10:39:40 AM
Thanks clonadmad.
I did check the leinster one but found only old fixtures.

Leinster matches are special for the teams who get there.

nothing for leinster as of yet on their website

https://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/club-championship-2021 (https://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/club-championship-2021)

Leinster: https://hoganstand.com/County/National/Article/Index/320589

Great to see Paddy Purcell getting nominated for an All-Star.

Hard to see any Laois hurler winning one for the foreseeable but it would be an interesting sign of improvement if we were consistently getting nominations.

Well earned and deserved. At least it's some recognition for him nationally.

Is Harps vAbbeyleix game being stream live tonight?

Quote from: Laois man on October 07, 2021, 12:04:12 PM
Is Harps vAbbeyleix game being stream live tonight?

No. Double header Sunday for a tenner.

Harps stay up. 3-18 to 1-14 v Abbeyleix.

Surprised by the margin in that result.

Quote from: Robbo on October 06, 2021, 07:04:00 PM

Quote from: Laois man on October 06, 2021, 03:05:45 PM
Any views on the hurling games this weekend? I hear Castletown are down a few with long term injuries.

Even with no injuries I'd still pick Camross to win that one.

Castletown have very good numbers training, all the same.

Quote from: G@@ on October 07, 2021, 09:37:40 PM
Harps stay up. 3-18 to 1-14 v Abbeyleix.

Surprised by the margin in that result.

Abbeyleix were awful. Could have tried something different in the full-forward line with the wind and Enda's puckouts. Peaked early; dreadful the last 2 games.

The Harps needed the win but they don't look that far ahead of what I've seen in Premier Intermediate.

Shocking blow for Abbeyleix after being in the last 3 minor finals there goalkeeper top scored again that tells you alot about there attack. Won't be easy to get back up now either.

I actually think getting relegated will stand to Abbeyleix in the long run. They have plenty of good young hurlers coming through who would benefit from learning their trade for a year (possibly two) in the intermediate premier ranks. 

Nothing beats going on a winning championship run for generating interest and helping to develop a side, especially a predominately young team. Abbeyleix can look to filter and integrate their successful minor players into their side and come back stronger to the senior ranks in 2023 or 2024. I wouldn't be surprised if they were there or thereabouts at winning a leinster intermediate championship along the way as well.

Has to be said abbeyleix were very poor.  I'd actually worry about them going forward. No passion or fight. And a few of their best prospects over the last few years seem to have regressed. If lorcan mahony a proud abbeyleix man can't get the best out of them who can.
Talking to a few harps supporters after the game who were naturally delighted. Very optimistic going forward citing they were down gavin dunne, fionn whelan and ciaran Burke from the Premier intermediate final. Plus Jim o Connor has yet to hurl a ball at adult level. Big boost and hopefully they can build on it and add to the county senior hurlers

I disagree with previous poster that being relegated could stand to Abbeyleix. They will be straight back up at a canter. But it won't help them in any way.
I'd question the influence of their goalkeeper. Is he choosing to go long or instructed to go long. It stood out against Camross but it was taken to a new level last night. It is area number 1 that needs addressing whenever they get back to senior.

I'd fear both of Sunday's games could be damp squibs.

I see your point about the goalkeeper going long frequently. Didn't see the game last night but been to Laois games when this was happening regularly and having zero impact. If anything it hampered the forwards momentum. Is this a manager decision or how does this work ?

Well if it's not the manager's decision, and he identifies it as a problem, and it doesn't change, he isn't managing.
If he didn't identify it as a problem....that's a different conversation!

Hope Colt Shanahoe stick it out and stay together for the long haul, they'll improve after a tough couple of years
Anyone here at the game? Was the penalty call harsh at the end ?

I heard it was a harsh call, but that was from a Colt man! Colt/Shanahoe will have to stick together, as neither - and especially Shanahoe - have any future otherwise.
More likely to break up would be PRT, who were also demoted today. Back to Junior 'A' - the join up hasn't really brought more of a bounce to hurling in these two predominately football clubs. Again, though, Timahoe probably wouldn't have a team on their own any more.

PRT have a thriving underage set-up. A few excellent people involved who will hopefully filter into Laois underage roles.

I thought the penalty was harsh. But those around me were adamant there was a foul.

Still think it'll be a Ballyfin-Portlaoise final.

PRT who the hell are they 😂😂😂😂😂 never heard of them 😂😂

Quote from: burdizzo on October 09, 2021, 10:26:02 PM
I heard it was a harsh call, but that was from a Colt man! Colt/Shanahoe will have to stick together, as neither - and especially Shanahoe - have any future otherwise.
More likely to break up would be PRT, who were also demoted today. Back to Junior 'A' - the join up hasn't really brought more of a bounce to hurling in these two predominately football clubs. Again, though, Timahoe probably wouldn't have a team on their own any more.

Loads of good hurling talent coming through over there in Park Ratheniska Timahoe underage  and in fairness decent work been put into try and get to a higher standard. Would be a right kick in the stones for them if it were to disband. I highly doubt it will to be honest. Neither would do anything on their own hurling wise. Football will always rule supreme over that side of the county.
Underage success counts for very little though if it can't be brought through to adult level. Very disappointed with Abbeyleix going down. Loads of good young lads but need that marquee type forward to be a focal point rather than relying on Rowland for scores from frees. Abbeyleix should be thereabouts for winning junior A title if they get over the line today.
Colt Shanahoe hasn't taken off but will get rough before it gets better. Should go back up next year with Keyes back from injury.

Anyways back to senior championship topic..

Looking forward to 2 games today. Rathdowney should have 10+ points win over Rosenallis.

Camross Castletown has makings of a good game. Camross by 5-6 points. They seem to time championship at right time and wouldn't rule them being in a final yet.

Ive looked at Abbeyleix a few times and admit Rowland is a rare talent. His striking and power are incredible. Does his influence stifle the overall team tho? Just an example: if Abbeyleix get a free anywhere in their own half everyone is waiting for ER to come out and have a shot. There is no movement as everyone knows what is happening. Similar at times with long puckouts. Id have thought with a young mobile team and a goalie with a really sharp puckout Abbeyleix would have looked to play a more possession based game. Just a thought.

The PRT amalgamation isn't long for this world when you have one of the club chairmen individually ringing the players allegedly and telling them not to turn up for the hurling relegation final ahead of their clubs intermediate football semifinal next weekend

With the result that 6/8 of the players didn't turn up and PRT got bet and are down to junior

Prt at juvenile this year lost the 2020 u13b and 2021 A final,lost the u15 A semifinal and lost the minor B final,the reality is most of their teams are filled with non park youngsters,I heard recently that their u13's are nearly all living in Portlaoise town itself.

They have a few good mentors,but most of them are blown sins from outside the county and hurling men at heart.

I can see it definitely splitting it at adult level this year unfortunately and the juvenile club in the next few years

To the detriment of Laois hurling as a whole

We need more clubs and to broaden the player base

Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on October 10, 2021, 11:17:52 AM
Ive looked at Abbeyleix a few times and admit Rowland is a rare talent. His striking and power are incredible. Does his influence stifle the overall team tho? Just an example: if Abbeyleix get a free anywhere in their own half everyone is waiting for ER to come out and have a shot. There is no movement as everyone knows what is happening. Similar at times with long puckouts. Id have thought with a young mobile team and a goalie with a really sharp puckout Abbeyleix would have looked to play a more possession based game. Just a thought.

Agree

Quote from: clonadmad on October 10, 2021, 12:38:30 PM
The PRT amalgamation isn't long for this world when you have one of the club chairmen individually ringing the players allegedly and telling them not to turn up for the hurling relegation final ahead of their clubs intermediate football semifinal next weekend

With the result that 6/8 of the players didn't turn up and PRT got bet and are down to junior

Prt at juvenile this year lost the 2020 u13b and 2021 A final,lost the u15 A semifinal and lost the minor B final,the reality is most of their teams are filled with non park youngsters,I heard recently that their u13's are nearly all living in Portlaoise town itself.

They have a few good mentors,but most of them are blown sins from outside the county and hurling men at heart.

I can see it definitely splitting it at adult level this year unfortunately and the juvenile club in the next few years

To the detriment of Laois hurling as a whole

We need more clubs and to broaden the player base

Are you still pretending that you're not heavily involved with PRT?

Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 10, 2021, 01:12:14 PM

Quote from: clonadmad on October 10, 2021, 12:38:30 PM
The PRT amalgamation isn't long for this world when you have one of the club chairmen individually ringing the players allegedly and telling them not to turn up for the hurling relegation final ahead of their clubs intermediate football semifinal next weekend

With the result that 6/8 of the players didn't turn up and PRT got bet and are down to junior

Prt at juvenile this year lost the 2020 u13b and 2021 A final,lost the u15 A semifinal and lost the minor B final,the reality is most of their teams are filled with non park youngsters,I heard recently that their u13's are nearly all living in Portlaoise town itself.

They have a few good mentors,but most of them are blown sins from outside the county and hurling men at heart.

I can see it definitely splitting it at adult level this year unfortunately and the juvenile club in the next few years

To the detriment of Laois hurling as a whole

We need more clubs and to broaden the player base

Are you still pretending that you're not heavily involved with PRT?

He is either a bitter Clonad man or he is bitter about his involvement with PTR . Strange post that 🤔

Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 10, 2021, 01:12:14 PM

Quote from: clonadmad on October 10, 2021, 12:38:30 PM
The PRT amalgamation isn't long for this world when you have one of the club chairmen individually ringing the players allegedly and telling them not to turn up for the hurling relegation final ahead of their clubs intermediate football semifinal next weekend

With the result that 6/8 of the players didn't turn up and PRT got bet and are down to junior

Prt at juvenile this year lost the 2020 u13b and 2021 A final,lost the u15 A semifinal and lost the minor B final,the reality is most of their teams are filled with non park youngsters,I heard recently that their u13's are nearly all living in Portlaoise town itself.

They have a few good mentors,but most of them are blown sins from outside the county and hurling men at heart.

I can see it definitely splitting it at adult level this year unfortunately and the juvenile club in the next few years

To the detriment of Laois hurling as a whole

We need more clubs and to broaden the player base

Are you still pretending that you're not heavily involved with PRT?

Poor Keyser

Not your first time either online or in real life,

You attacking the messenger and being made to look foolish

And in your Answer to your question

I have no involvement in PRT "heavily" or otherwise

Keep trying son.

Calm down "son".
These things are best addressed and sorted in house.

I'm guessing the next step will be to tell us how they approach this sort of issue in Tipperary. It seems to be the "go to" move!

I've never spoken to you in real life. So park that.
Your juvenile attempts to stir the pot and cause trouble a few years ago when Raheen Parish Gaels were trying to get going were disgraceful.
There's no coming back from that "son".

Going to go with Rathdowney in the first but it'll be closer than expected I think .
Second game will be right old battle hopefully . Camross slowly seem to be getting it together at the right time . Wouldn't be surprised to see this go to ET

Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 10, 2021, 01:50:44 PM
Calm down "son".
These things are best addressed and sorted in house.

I'm guessing the next step will be to tell us how they approach this sort of issue in Tipperary. It seems to be the "go to" move!

I've never spoken to you in real life. So park that.
Your juvenile attempts to stir the pot and cause trouble a few years ago when Raheen Parish Gaels were trying to get going were disgraceful.
There's no coming back from that "son".

Poor Keyser

Haven't you read any of my recent posts,

I'm now lauding Offaly and how they go about their business

Yet again the red mist descends online with you,as it does in person

I won't be responding to you on this thread and derailing it any further

it deserves better.

Unfortunately I don't think either of them will be close for a finish.
I like the way both Rosenallis and Castletown try to play, but I don't think either of them are good enough to win here.
Both have form this year for falling off a cliff when it starts going wrong.
Hopefully not.

Quote from: clonadmad on October 10, 2021, 02:08:31 PM
Poor Keyser

Yet again the red mist descends online as it does in person

You've already had to back down and apologise to me here in person,who made an unfounded allegation

There can always be a second time

Come again? Try English this time.

The PRT amalgamation is on shaky ground, and what Clonadmad says about footballers not playing the hurling relegation final is true. Part of the problem is that they're in the same football championship, I suppose.

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 10, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
As expected, Rathdowney-Errill and Camross go through to the semi-finals. Although R/E far from impressive and stumbled over the line a bit.

Camross will give Clough-Ballacolla a good game of it but I expect C/B to have more firepower going forward and to win with a bit to spare. The other semi is tougher to call for me. Before the season, I would have thought R/E would win as thought their team looked the best on paper. After seeing them the last couple of days I'm not so sure... they'll need Ross King and Mark Kavanagh fit for it anyway.

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 10, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
As expected, Rathdowney-Errill and Camross go through to the semi-finals. Although R/E far from impressive and stumbled over the line a bit.

Camross will give Clough-Ballacolla a good game of it but I expect C/B to have more firepower going forward and to win with a bit to spare. The other semi is tougher to call for me. Before the season, I would have thought R/E would win as thought their team looked the best on paper. After seeing them the last couple of days I'm not so sure... they'll need Ross King and Mark Kavanagh fit for it anyway.

2 very poor games today in OMP. Rathdowney Errill in 1st- 2nd gear did just about enough. Terrible bad luck for Mark Kavanagh another nasty looking injury and wish him the best in his recovery. Clough Ballacolla should account for them in next game.

Camross started strong and did what they needed to do. Didn't set the world on fire either and they won't fear Borris Kilcotton the next day and should be the pick of the games in 2 weeks time.

Pitch cutting up fierce at times in OMP and only going to get worse in coming weeks!

Quote from: Helix. on October 10, 2021, 06:00:55 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 10, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
As expected, Rathdowney-Errill and Camross go through to the semi-finals. Although R/E far from impressive and stumbled over the line a bit.

Camross will give Clough-Ballacolla a good game of it but I expect C/B to have more firepower going forward and to win with a bit to spare. The other semi is tougher to call for me. Before the season, I would have thought R/E would win as thought their team looked the best on paper. After seeing them the last couple of days I'm not so sure... they'll need Ross King and Mark Kavanagh fit for it anyway.

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 10, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
As expected, Rathdowney-Errill and Camross go through to the semi-finals. Although R/E far from impressive and stumbled over the line a bit.

Camross will give Clough-Ballacolla a good game of it but I expect C/B to have more firepower going forward and to win with a bit to spare. The other semi is tougher to call for me. Before the season, I would have thought R/E would win as thought their team looked the best on paper. After seeing them the last couple of days I'm not so sure... they'll need Ross King and Mark Kavanagh fit for it anyway.

2 very poor games today in OMP. Rathdowney Errill in 1st- 2nd gear did just about enough. Terrible bad luck for Mark Kavanagh another nasty looking injury and wish him the best in his recovery. Clough Ballacolla should account for them in next game.

Camross started strong and did what they needed to do. Didn't set the world on fire either and they won't fear Borris Kilcotton the next day and should be the pick of the games in 2 weeks time.

Pitch cutting up fierce at times in OMP and only going to get worse in coming weeks!

The OMP Pitch is flogged to within an inch of its life every year because the county board doesn't trust the clubs around the county to host senior group games in either hurling or football

You'd be worried about Mark Kavanagh. Looked like a bad injury; if anyone deserves a bit of luck it's him.

Rathdowney maybe without him and King makes them outsiders.
Though I still have a feeling they'll give Ballacolla plenty of it. Ballacolla can be cocky and won't have been tested in the way rayhdowney will.

Prt are a joke waste of time in my opinion I've no interest in hurling they beat our club to go up but there players don't know if they like hurling or football junior A waste of time for them

It's a terrible shame some turf expert can't be flown into Laois to explain that 30 odd games in a month in autumn isn't great for a pitch.
I mean, who could foresee it????

Quote from: town1980 on October 10, 2021, 11:03:00 PM
Prt are a joke waste of time in my opinion I've no interest in hurling they beat our club to go up but there players don't know if they like hurling or football junior A waste of time for them

Shots fired

Can't wait to see the response from 2 contributors here who got awful exercised here earlier today over my PRT comment

Let's be having you boys

Town must be really really really bitter

Quote from: Smellyball on October 10, 2021, 11:14:32 PM
It's a terrible shame some turf expert can't be flown into Laois to explain that 30 odd games in a month in autumn isn't great for a pitch.
I mean, who could foresee it????

Who's have thunk it

It's like as if the CB don't want the clubs in the county and by extension the local towns and businesses to benefit from the games played.

Definitely no bitter I just think there no good  :) :) ;) 8)

Depressing to see the negativey  towards Rosenallis today and overall throughout the year in both hurling and football, They are the only senior dual club in the county, and should possibly be in a county semi final if they took their chances. I don't believe the crap RE were only in 1st 2nd gear. If the ref had any balls today ge should of let the last puck out happen instead of blowing up just after Rosenallis get the goal.

This is a club thats putting it up against the likes of the 2nd favourite team in RE in hurling championship and probably 3rd best team in football Championship O'Dempseys and their only training a quarter of what the non dual clubs are training and still there competing at the highest level. Fair play to the club and management of both sectors.

Quote from: Tintin84 on October 11, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
Depressing to see the negativey  towards Rosenallis today and overall throughout the year in both hurling and football, They are the only senior dual club in the county, and should possibly be in a county semi final if they took their chances. I don't believe the crap RE were only in 1st 2nd gear. If the ref had any balls today ge should of let the last puck out happen instead of blowing up just after Rosenallis get the goal.

This is a club thats putting it up against the likes of the 2nd favourite team in RE in hurling championship and probably 3rd best team in football Championship O'Dempseys and their only training a quarter of what the non dual clubs are training and still there competing at the highest level. Fair play to the club and management of both sectors.

Everyone thinks highly of Rosenallis.

I've been programmed most of my life not to like them...but I can't help but respect them. Played well today and finished strongly but Rathdowney didn't. Nobody likes morale victories but take it; could have been worse.

Quote from: Tintin84 on October 11, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
Depressing to see the negativey  towards Rosenallis today and overall throughout the year in both hurling and football, They are the only senior dual club in the county, and should possibly be in a county semi final if they took their chances. I don't believe the crap RE were only in 1st 2nd gear. If the ref had any balls today ge should of let the last puck out happen instead of blowing up just after Rosenallis get the goal.

This is a club thats putting it up against the likes of the 2nd favourite team in RE in hurling championship and probably 3rd best team in football Championship O'Dempseys and their only training a quarter of what the non dual clubs are training and still there competing at the highest level. Fair play to the club and management of both sectors.

Rosenallis are an example to every club in the county as to how they go about their business both on and off the field.

No negativity here

Quote from: clonadmad on October 11, 2021, 07:58:24 AM

Quote from: Tintin84 on October 11, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
Depressing to see the negativey  towards Rosenallis today and overall throughout the year in both hurling and football, They are the only senior dual club in the county, and should possibly be in a county semi final if they took their chances. I don't believe the crap RE were only in 1st 2nd gear. If the ref had any balls today ge should of let the last puck out happen instead of blowing up just after Rosenallis get the goal.

This is a club thats putting it up against the likes of the 2nd favourite team in RE in hurling championship and probably 3rd best team in football Championship O'Dempseys and their only training a quarter of what the non dual clubs are training and still there competing at the highest level. Fair play to the club and management of both sectors.

Rosenallis are an example to every club in the county as to how they go about their business both ion and off the field.

No negativity here

Likewise; no negativity here.

Rosenallis an honest bunch doing super work both on and off the field. Were left to rue the wides in 1st half. John Lennon got on a nice bit of ball when he came on. Hopefully he gets back 100% fit as he was huge loss to Laois this year.
Paddy Keating hurled well as well for them they just left it too late.

On a side note good to see Liam 'Fonzy' O'Connell back with Rathdowney Errill this year. Certainly worth a look at with Laois again.
Ryan Mullaney with a peach of a point against Camross yesterday as well. Hopefully he kicks on too when back with Laois in the new year.

Quote from: Tintin84 on October 11, 2021, 12:14:08 AM
Depressing to see the negativey  towards Rosenallis today and overall throughout the year in both hurling and football, They are the only senior dual club in the county, and should possibly be in a county semi final if they took their chances. I don't believe the crap RE were only in 1st 2nd gear. If the ref had any balls today ge should of let the last puck out happen instead of blowing up just after Rosenallis get the goal.

This is a club thats putting it up against the likes of the 2nd favourite team in RE in hurling championship and probably 3rd best team in football Championship O'Dempseys and their only training a quarter of what the non dual clubs are training and still there competing at the highest level. Fair play to the club and management of both sectors.

What?? Rosenallis are a credit to the county...what negativity was there here about them today?

I think that most people are impressed by what Rosenallis have achieved but they need a few more good hurlers to be able to break into the top 4. Maybe with the impressive underage structures they can make it happen and good luck to them. The hurling community is small in Laois and we need more competitive clubs like Rosenallis. However, Rathdowney Errill were fairly horrendous yesterday compared with what they can be and I believe any one of Camross, C/B or B/K would have beaten them comprehensively on that performance. Rosenallis never really looked like they were going to do anything until the last two or three minutes.

Senior:
Think Camross will beat Borris/Kil if its a close one. I think Borris have better forwards but this camross team are improving and will fancy the battle.

Ballacolla have never done back-to-back and i dont think they will this year. Rathdowney will be missing Mark Kav but they'll be well up for this and I think if it's a battle; they have more in them and will want it more. They wont give Dunphy or Maher any space. That'll win it for them.

Premier Intermediate:
Very confident Ballyfin will win. Power and pace in the middle and scorers up front. I think this will be the only one-sided game of the weekend.

The other game could be close. Hard to call. I thought Portlaoise would win but I've heard rumours of injuries and maybe that might unsettle things. Ill go with Cha to get Ballnakill over the line.

Hope the two first teams win the junior finals. No offence to the second teams. Think trumera will but pickas could be in trouble if the ballyroan footballers release all their players to hurl with Abbyleix.

Don't see R/E beating C/B at all, they haven't looked good at all since the opening round against Camross and obviously have injuries to key players. C/B by 5.

The other semi is a really difficult one to call. Camross have improved with every game they've played and I'd give the slight nod to them. Camross by 1 or 2, wouldn't be surprised if extra time is required.

Portlaoise and Ballyfin to win the Premier Intermediate semi's, haven't been too impressed with Ballinakill this year and Camross clearly the weakest of the four left. Trumera to edge C/B in the Intermediate final this evening.

Quote from: Robbo on October 22, 2021, 10:42:49 AM
Senior:
Think Camross will beat Borris/Kil if its a close one. I think Borris have better forwards but this camross team are improving and will fancy the battle.

Ballacolla have never done back-to-back and i dont think they will this year. Rathdowney will be missing Mark Kav but they'll be well up for this and I think if it's a battle; they have more in them and will want it more. They wont give Dunphy or Maher any space. That'll win it for them.

Premier Intermediate:
Very confident Ballyfin will win. Power and pace in the middle and scorers up front. I think this will be the only one-sided game of the weekend.

The other game could be close. Hard to call. I thought Portlaoise would win but I've heard rumours of injuries and maybe that might unsettle things. Ill go with Cha to get Ballnakill over the line.

Hope the two first teams win the junior finals. No offence to the second teams. Think trumera will but pickas could be in trouble if the ballyroan footballers release all their players to hurl with Abbyleix.

God I don't know where that confidence in RE has come from, I though they have been very poor for most of this year. Think CB will win it by 4or5...

I agree on the other game, Camross are slowly getting back into it the last few weeks and I think they will beat BK this weekend and win the final in 2 weeks!! You heard it here first....haha

Great win for Trumrea I have a feeling it could be a bad weekend for Cbolla.

Quote from: Laois man on October 22, 2021, 10:07:16 PM
Great win for Trumrea I have a feeling it could be a bad weekend for Cbolla.

I think so too.

I think Clough Ballacolla will beat Rathdowney Errill tomorrow they seem to be hurling confidently & settled into their game plan, only issue is whether they've been tested enough in the last three games if Hennessey & Walsh in particular are out it gives RE a chance but without kavangh & mcginley  might struggle to get a big enough score, need Paddy Purcell to be outstanding for the hour

And where had all the confidence in Camross come from ? They've beaten the worst two teams in the Senior Championship, Borris Kilcotton beat them by 8 the last day without Joe Campion & Stephen Phelan
I do expect it to be a lot closer but I'd expect a BK win, surprised bookies & media all going with Camross.

Have to admit I was impressed with ballinakill today. They were def the best team on show and have improved since their first game. Probably the favourites to go back senior now.

Ballyfin never really got into ther stride and didn't manage the conditions well. camross were the better team at times but some of their discipline let them down. Some achievement to have a 2nd team that good after seniors using 24/25 players.

As far as I know l, the bookies have Rathdowney & Borris favourites and I think they are correct on both counts!

I'd question the basis for the reports of the Camross improvement.
When you bring Abbeyleix & Castletown's performances against The Harps & Clough Ballacolla into the picture it really doesn't look like a big improvement.
They have changed along the way this year, have they improved?
If so, have they improved significantly?
I don't think so. It'll be a tight game though. From what I hear, the Borris camp has settled a bit again. Things certainly weren't good for a while.
I'd fancy them by 5 or 6 points.

More conflicted on the other one. The Harps & Castletown put in a showing for 30 minutes each. Other than that it has been a procession for Clough Ballacolla.
Even with injuries, I think Rathdowney Errill have more effective players to bring in and that might make the difference.
It's a bit of a coin toss, but RE always appear that bit more measured in their use of the ball. Clough Ballacolla to me tend to be more direct. Will trying to keep the ball in current conditions (both underfoot and over head) be the key or the rock to perish on? I think it'll be the way to another county final for Rathdowney Errill.

How wrong I was.
Very poor from Rathdowney Errill, who will be disappointed with themselves.
Had a good view of the sending off incident. No arguments. He had to go.

Credit to Ballacolla.  That took serious digging in.

Credit to Ballacolla but Rathdowney need to have a hard look at themselves. If the wind was anywhere near as strong as Saturday evening then playing a sweeper in the 1 half cost them. The sending-off was cancelled out by the wind after that. Ballacolla fought like lions, got a few soft frees and deserved the win. Robbie whelan brilliant again.

I missed a good chunk of the borris game but they were miles better than camross. Loads of scoring options and very tight at the back. Matthew Whelan deserves one more championship at least. He cleaned Keenan and I think he'll be very important in the final.

Hard final to call. A November final will be a lot different to one in August. Especially on that pitch.

Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 24, 2021, 06:04:40 PM
How wrong I was.
Very poor from Rathdowney Errill, who will be disappointed with themselves.
Had a good view of the sending off incident. No arguments. He had to go.

Credit to Ballacolla.  That took serious digging in.

The only thing I found odd about the situation was I don't think he even carded the Rathdowney player for his initial strike in the incidence, I think the card went to the number 7. I thought it was going to be 2 straight reds....I said earlier on the forum that I didn't think RE would win as they haven't impressed me at all this year and it was the case again. So many of their top players seem off it, I know they rallied late and got the 2 goals but if CB had won't it by 7or8 nobody would have complained and that's not a good sign considering they played against 14 for the entire 2nd half.

Any predictions for Sunday's games? Winners? First goal scores? Man of the matches?

Hopefully two good games. I'm going to go with Ballinakill by 4 & Borris Kilcotten by 2. B/K coming in as underdogs and I think they have a surprise for C/B.
Premier Intermediate, I just think Ballinakill have a bit too much for Ballyfinn, think they'll lead most of the game and win by 4.

First goal scores – Willie Dunphy & Cha
Man of Matches – PJ Scully & Cha

C/B are motoring very well for the last while and I don't see them being beaten Sunday. B/K will obviously be very fired up to avenge last year's result but I think C/B are the more balanced outfit overall. C/B by 3.

Ballinakill put in their best performance of the championship against Portlaoise the last day. The extra game against Clonaslee seems to have pushed them on a bit and I think they'll have plenty to spare over Ballyfin. Ballinakill by 6.

If Borris turn up I think they'll win. Greater hunger coupled with a management who have corrected a few issues since the last final. Ballacolla haven't changed a lot and I don't think that's the way to go back-to-back. You always need to be trying to evolve and find new ways to improve.
Maher and Dunphy will be targeted big time. Conditions will suit Borris too I think.

Man of the match: Matthew

I think everyone expects ballinakill to win the first game. I get it. There the team down from senior and have the better number of county players. However, I think Ballyfin have a great chance. Strong and powerful middle-third and always carry a scoring threat either from distance and inside. I think if Cha catches fire then it could be different but I think Ballyfin might be able to keep him relatively quiet. Some of their other forwards can be a bit hit or miss.

Like I said, I get why Ballinakill are favourites but I'm going for Ballyfin.

MOTM: James Finn

Did Doyle appeal his red card or bother? Hard to see anyway of getting off from initial viewing anyway.
Ballacolla also struck with Covid ?

Quote from: Ogie on November 05, 2021, 02:06:58 PM
Did Doyle appeal his red card or bother? Hard to see anyway of getting off from initial viewing anyway.
Ballacolla also struck with Covid ?

What?? Hadn't heard that...any confirmed players to be missing?

On Sundays games Borris/kilcotton by 2 and Ballinakill 6.

Clough Ballacolla to win the senior for me, I think they can get the better of the Borris Kilcotton full back line if they get a reasonable the supply going in. Clough Ballacolla by 4.

Ballinakill have a lot of new players this year. A good few of them were county minor and u20 and should be ok, but you never know how it will go sometimes for young lads, so that might be an issue for them. On balance I would say they still have plenty of experienced men like Brian O'Meara and Podge who along with their county men should steer them home, Ballinakil by 5 or 6 points maybe.

Should be two good games.

Senior
For the players they have, Borris Kilcotton were tactically very poor in the 2020 final. Rumors afterwards of unrest & friction. But sometimes these things are a necessary bump in the road. Particularly when it's an in-house manager. An episode or period like that can harden the resolve all round and establish a "line in the sand".
Nobody is afraid to upset anybody else anymore and expectations of each other (players & management) can be heightened with a healthy "tension".
They have a good balance about them and have gone about their business clinically enough this year.

I think the biggest problem they had in the 2020 final was dealing with how deep Robbie Phelan drifted, who picked him up and what happened to the space left behind. 
There is enough experience and tactical know how on the line and on the field to have identified that and try to stem it.
They are also blessed with a variety of options from a man marking/matchups point of view. It really is crucial at this level.

Clough Ballacolla keep surprising me. Their performances and run of wins over the last 12-14 months is beyond what I thought they were capable of. Picky and Aidan Corby run the show in my eyes. With plenty of supporting acts.
They are flying high confidence wise, look really well conditioned and seem to have found a perfect match management wise.

Borris Kilcotton have underachieved big time in terms of titles won. They must surely be hurting over the 2020 final. Their own supporters were extremely critical of them afterwards, questioning their balls (for want of a better word).
There has to be an awareness of that from within.
I think it will be enough to give them an edge.
BK by 6.


Intermediate
Losing to Ballyfin was the best thing that happened Ballinakill this year.
It seems to have sharpened the mind and wiped away any complacency that inevitably creeps in with a newly relegated side.
They have a sprinkling of really talented, experienced guys throughout the field.
They also have great men on the line. You'd have to be confident that they have enough to get though this. I reckon by 6 or 7 points.

Borris/kilcotton must be sick. Great chance entering the last quarter but CB big players really stood up. They'll be the standard bearers for the next couple of years.

Agreed.
They will be devestated with that.
Did so much right.
Built up considerable leads twice.
Lost them twice.
Settled again and got ahead.
They really really really really really should have finished that off.

There was a huge swing in the opening moments of the second half. Noah Quinlan was adjudged to have thrown the ball to Scully who popped it over for a score that would have put them 8 up.
Free out.
CB went down and scored 1-4 without reply to draw level.

Not blaming the Ref at all for BK losing. But he never looks confident himself when he calls something

Yeah Borris Kilcotton left that behind them this evening. Couldn't get the ball to stick in the forwards in 2nd half. Credit to Clough Ballacolla worthy winners and hopefully give a good account of themselves in Leinster club championship.
I'm not sure if eyes deceiving me but thought there were a fair few throw balls on both sides today.

Ballyfin indiscipline near the end cost them too. Though Balinakill more likely to stay at senior after winning today. Time will tell.

Best team won n matter it's down to results well done bk

At this stage I believe BK have taken an unwanted label off the Harps, if you know what I mean!

How did BK manage to lose that one?? Huge credit to Clough Ballacolla to be fair, they seemed to never know when they're beating and that is something you couldn't have said about this team down through the years but they definitely seemed to have turned a corner.

The game itself was a belter, definitely the highest quality skill and intensity wise that I've seen in Laois in a good number of years. Every mistake and slight delay on the ball was punished to the last and that is what you want to see. Few things that turned to tide on Borris for me was their midfield just seemed to evaporate in the 2nd half after been so dominant in the first and Lee Cleeres performance on Aaron Dunphy in the 2nd half. After what happened in the first that battle needed to be won by Lee if CB were to have any hope and he was immense scoring 2 savage points to go with it.

Quick one on Adian Corby? Has he been called into the county yet or what is the story there? He is such an good player I don't think Laois can afford not to have him in the squad. From chatting to a few Ballacolla lads in the stand during the game he has made himself available but wasn't brought in. Without knowing too much about the set up I find that odd to be honest.

Gutted for Ballyfin. Underdogs who performed brilliantly but in the crucial moments, nothing went for us. Even before the game losing one of our most important players.
Well done to Ballinakill. On balance, they deserved it. Hope they do well in Leinster.

I thought Borros would win the senior final. And they had every chance. Ballacolla have some spirit though, wherever they've got it from I don't know. And without 2 important lads. Willie Dunphy was by far the best player on pitch yesterday. Unreal.

Great games yesterday. B/K should have held on to it and got the win. The started so brilliant and with such intensity. They will be sick today having let it slip. I though Mathew at no 65 was very good, got on a lot of ball, gave no chance to Jordan walsh to make an impact. CB never panicked, stayed plugging away, Picky and willie Dunphy the main forwards for them. Once they went ahead near the end, they looked like never losing it then. Credit it to them, I do feel for B/K, 3rd ion a row to lose.

Only saw the 2nd half of the Ballyfinn and Ballinakill game. Don't think Ballyfinn scored from play in the second half? Hard to win a final when no scores from play in the 2nd half. The penalty miss kinda changed it. Ballyfinn chasing it after that miss. Loyns inf airness scored a great goal from the 21 free, made for an exciting last few mins.

Hopefully C/B go on now and give the Leinster championship a good go as I think they are a well balanced outfit. They would have been disappointed not to get the chance to represent Laois in 2020, so fair play to them for coming back and winning it again. They showed massive guts to come out on top of the last two games against R/E and B/K where their backs were against the wall.

I believe they face Rapparees of Wexford in the opening round. Can't say I know a lot about them but they had a big win in their own county final so I'd imagine they're decent and C/B will have to be at their best.

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 08, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
Hopefully C/B go on now and give the Leinster championship a good go as I think they are a well balanced outfit. They would have been disappointed not to get the chance to represent Laois in 2020, so fair play to them for coming back and winning it again. They showed massive guts to come out on top of the last two games against R/E and B/K where their backs were against the wall.

I believe they face Rapparees of Wexford in the opening round. Can't say I know a lot about them but they had a big win in their own county final so I'd imagine they're decent and C/B will have to be at their best.

Laois clubs are due a good run in the Leinster championship. There has not been much to cheer about in it over the last number of years so hopefully CB can curve that in a few weeks. It wont be easy though as Rapparees are a very good outfit!

Willle Hyland is some man still playing, he's been on the go for a long time now. Any reason Corby hasn't come in to the Laois set up? He was a very good minor and Cheddar would know him well.

Aidan Corby is on the panel for this year I'm pretty sure.
Think him and David Connolly are midfield additions.

Quote from: ottoman on November 08, 2021, 02:40:03 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 08, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
Hopefully C/B go on now and give the Leinster championship a good go as I think they are a well balanced outfit. They would have been disappointed not to get the chance to represent Laois in 2020, so fair play to them for coming back and winning it again. They showed massive guts to come out on top of the last two games against R/E and B/K where their backs were against the wall.

I believe they face Rapparees of Wexford in the opening round. Can't say I know a lot about them but they had a big win in their own county final so I'd imagine they're decent and C/B will have to be at their best.

Laois clubs are due a good run in the Leinster championship. There has not been much to cheer about in it over the last number of years so hopefully CB can curve that in a few weeks. It wont be easy though as Rapparees are a very good outfit!

I think they're quietly confident, which is certainly a good start. But then, winning two county titles in a few months would give you a certain swagger!

Quote from: burdizzo on November 15, 2021, 07:54:47 AM

Quote from: ottoman on November 08, 2021, 02:40:03 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 08, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
Hopefully C/B go on now and give the Leinster championship a good go as I think they are a well balanced outfit. They would have been disappointed not to get the chance to represent Laois in 2020, so fair play to them for coming back and winning it again. They showed massive guts to come out on top of the last two games against R/E and B/K where their backs were against the wall.

I believe they face Rapparees of Wexford in the opening round. Can't say I know a lot about them but they had a big win in their own county final so I'd imagine they're decent and C/B will have to be at their best.

Laois clubs are due a good run in the Leinster championship. There has not been much to cheer about in it over the last number of years so hopefully CB can curve that in a few weeks. It wont be easy though as Rapparees are a very good outfit!

I think they're quietly confident, which is certainly a good start. But then, winning two county titles in a few months would give you a certain swagger!

A lack of confidence or swagger was never Ballacollas problem.
Winning close games under adversity was. They've cracked that nut with an outsid emanager who seems to have energised their most important forwards.
You'd have to give them a chance against any Leinster team outside of Ballyhale or whoever wins dublin. A chance...but probably still as underdogs the next day.

Quote from: Robbo on November 15, 2021, 03:12:01 PM

Quote from: burdizzo on November 15, 2021, 07:54:47 AM

Quote from: ottoman on November 08, 2021, 02:40:03 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 08, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
Hopefully C/B go on now and give the Leinster championship a good go as I think they are a well balanced outfit. They would have been disappointed not to get the chance to represent Laois in 2020, so fair play to them for coming back and winning it again. They showed massive guts to come out on top of the last two games against R/E and B/K where their backs were against the wall.

I believe they face Rapparees of Wexford in the opening round. Can't say I know a lot about them but they had a big win in their own county final so I'd imagine they're decent and C/B will have to be at their best.

Laois clubs are due a good run in the Leinster championship. There has not been much to cheer about in it over the last number of years so hopefully CB can curve that in a few weeks. It wont be easy though as Rapparees are a very good outfit!

I think they're quietly confident, which is certainly a good start. But then, winning two county titles in a few months would give you a certain swagger!

A lack of confidence or swagger was never Ballacollas problem.
Winning close games under adversity was. They've cracked that nut with an outsid emanager who seems to have energised their most important forwards.
You'd have to give them a chance against any Leinster team outside of Ballyhale or whoever wins dublin. A chance...but probably still as underdogs the next day.

Kilmacud won Dublin on Saturday night

Went to extra time on the Tv on Saturday night

A very lose game of hurling little or no intensity

I must of being watching a different game I taught the Dublin County final was a great game. Not to many teams in laois would  test kilmaced.

Apparently Wille Dunphy is confirmed as been unavailable for this weekends game, absolute massive loss. I'd fancied CB to cause an upset but not now without Dunphy.

Shite, he'll be a big loss alright.

What has him out?

Game being shown on TG4 as well.

Quote from: redsetanta on November 23, 2021, 03:07:49 PM
Shite, he'll be a big loss alright.

What has him out?

Game being shown on TG4 as well.

Think the game is actually on RTE? Must be a first for a Laois club to be on RTE live!!

Not sure what has him out, had a fella from Clough on site with me yesterday and he was telling me that he's gone.
Big loss to them for the weekend.

Best of luck to Cbolla /Ballinakill and Trumrea this weekend in the leinster club Cship 3 tough games.

Hopefully C/B can get a result, been a good few weeks since raperees played their final, so CB should have a slight advantage that way. Dont think Ballinakill have much of a chance against Glenmore if honest. dont know anything about the team trumera plays.

but heres hoping 3 results for the laois teams

Trumera will have their work cut out for them against Maynooth. They are really a kildare senior team,  back to back intermediate for them over Naas. The promotion to senior is stupid in kildare,  they got caught in promotion game a few days after celebrating 2020 win. Tadgh Forde, cathal mccabe  and David Qualter are the main men to be minding. 

Clough Ballacolla have a decent chance you know!

Quote from: zoner on November 27, 2021, 03:38:15 PM
Trumera will have their work cut out for them against Maynooth. They are really a kildare senior team,  back to back intermediate for them over Naas. The promotion to senior is stupid in kildare,  they got caught in promotion game a few days after celebrating 2020 win. Tadgh Forde, cathal mccabe  and David Qualter are the main men to be minding.

That game was postponed for some reason.

Quote from: burdizzo on November 27, 2021, 04:50:10 PM

Quote from: zoner on November 27, 2021, 03:38:15 PM
Trumera will have their work cut out for them against Maynooth. They are really a kildare senior team,  back to back intermediate for them over Naas. The promotion to senior is stupid in kildare,  they got caught in promotion game a few days after celebrating 2020 win. Tadgh Forde, cathal mccabe  and David Qualter are the main men to be minding.

That game was postponed for some reason.

COVID cases in Maynooth team seemingly.

Watching CB match on RTÉ player here. All to play for in 2nd half and have the wind.

Great win for a laois team well done.

Great win for CB tonight. Aside from the old reliables, one lad that really impressed was Killian Dunne when he came on. Rapparees sort of fell to pieces in the last quarter, though.

Great win. First win over over a higher ranked county since??

Probably Castletown...?!

Put the information below together for no particular reason. It has been a competition that has been very good to Laois teams and particularly to Laois hurling supporters. If not in terms of trophies, then in terms of something to follow and a consistent ability to compete with the best in the province.
The information is from Wikipedia, but from memory it's accurate in terms of results and opposition anyways.
Unfortunately, I remember almost all of them!

Played- 101 (incl. replays/excl. 3 All Ireland games)
Won- 47, Drew- 6, Lost- 48
Replays Won- 3 , Replays Lost- 3

*= Provincial Winner
**= All Ireland Finalist
***= All Ireland Winner

1970/71
QF- Clonad 2-6 St Rynaghs**1-12

1971/72
R1 Birr 0-6 Camross 2-7
QF Bennettsbridge 1-9 Camross 1-1

1972/73
R1 Eire Óg (Kildare) 1-7 Borris in Ossory 2-7
QF Borris in Ossory 3-7 The Fenians 4-12

1973/74
QF Camross 2-2 St Rynaghs 1-8

1974/75
QF St Rynaghs 2-3 Camross 0-9
QF (R) Camross 1-6 St Rynaghs 2-8

1975/76
QF Clonaslee 3-8 St Rynaghs 2-14

1976/77
QF Camross 2-10 Kilmacud Crokes 2-8
SF Camross 2-8 St Rynaghs 1-8
F Camross 3-9 James Stephens 1-14
AISF Ballycran 0-7 Camross 3-12
AIF Glen Rovers*** 2-12 Camross 0-8

1977/78
QF Eire Óg (Kildare) 0-3 Camross 2-12
SF Camross 1-5 Rathnure 1-9**

1978/79
QF Kilmessan (Meath) 0-11 Camross 3-12
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks 4-12** Camross 2-2

1979/80
QF Camross 6-12 Castletown Geoghegan 3-9
SF Camross 3-10 Rathnure 2-12
F Crumlin* 3-5 Camross 0-11

1980/81
QF Ardclough (Kildare) 3-13 Camross 3-9

1981/82
QF Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-5 Portlaoise 5-11
SF James Stephens*** 2-15 Portlaoise 0-9

1982/83
QF Portlaoise 2-8 St Vincent's 1-5
SF Buffers Alley 1-14 Portlaoise 1-9

1983/84
R1 Avondale (Wicklow) 1-8 Portlaoise 8-8
QF Buffers Alley 0-14 Portlaoise 2-9

1984/85
QF Portlaoise 3-16 Raharney 0-10
SF Kinnity 2-20 Portlaoise 0-5

1985/86
QF Arklow Rock Parnells (Wicklow) 2-5 Clonad 1-9
SF Buffers Alley** 5-11 Clonad 0-11

1986/87
QF Camross 3-8 Faughs 0-14
SF Camross 1-7 Clara 2-3
F Rathnure** 2-16 Camross 3-9

1987/88
R1 Portlaoise 2-21 Kiltegan (Wicklow) 0-7
QF Portlaoise 0-14 Glenmore 1-8
SF Portlaoise 1-12 St Rynaghs 0-7
F Rathnure* 3-8 Portlaoise 1-13

1988/89
QF Portlaoise 1-9 St Vincent's 2-6
QF (R) St Vincent's 5-13 Portlaoise 5-6

1989/90
QF Brownstown 1-9 Portlaoise 4-14
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks*** 1-12 Portlaoise 2-6

1990/91
R1 Camross 2-15 St Patrick's (Wicklow) 1-6
QF Camross 2-9 Rathnure 2-8
SF Camross 3-8 O' Toole's 2-6
F Glenmore*** 0-15 Camross 1-9

1991/92
R1 Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-7 Portlaoise 5-5
QF Portlaoise 1-4 Buffers Alley 1-12

1992/93
R1 Raharney 0-11 Clonad 0-11
R1 (R) Clonad 2-11 Raharney 1-8
QF Clonad 1-9 Buffers Alley* 3-10

1993/94
QF St Rynaghs* 2-13 Camross 1-13

1994/95
QF Oulart the Ballagh 1-12 Camross 0-5

1995/96
QF Castletown 0-8 Oulart the Ballagh 2-17

1996/97
QF Camross 1-17 Loughlene Gaels 0-8
SF Camross 2-6 Rathnure 0-10
F Camross 1-12 O' Toole's 2-5
AISF Athenry*** 4-17 Camross 3-3

1997/98
R1 Castletown 3-17 Loughlene Gaels 2-10
QF Castletown 0–17 Oulart the Ballagh 1-14
QF (R) Oulart the Ballagh 0-10 Castletown 1-8
SF Castletown 3-8 O' Toole's 2-9
F Birr*** 0-11 Castletown 0-5

1998/99
QF Portlaoise w/o Trim scr
SF Portlaoise 0-6 Graigue Ballycallan 0-5
F Rathnure** 1-13 Portlaoise 1-6

1999/2000
QF Faughs 2-2 Castletown 1-12
SF Castletown 1-14 St Martin's (Wexford) 1-9
F Birr 1-16 Castletown 0-11

2000/2001
R1 Castletown 2-10 Coill Dubh (Kildare) 0-11
QF Castletown 2-10 Birr 1-8
SF Graigue Ballycallan** 2-12 Castletown 0-7

2001/2002
QF Kiltegan 0-4 Castletown 2-12
SF Castletown 1-10 Faythe Harriers 1-5
F Birr 0-10 Castletown 1-7
F (R) Birr*** 2-10 Castletown 0-5

2002/2003
R1 Castletown 2-2 Carnew Emmetts (Wicklow) 0-8
R1 (R) Carnew Emmetts 1-9 Castletown 2-13
QF Castletown 1-12 Birr*** 2-12

2003/2004
R1 Glenealy (Wicklow) 0-6 Castletown 2-11
QF Castletown 0-14 Craobh Chiarain (Dublin) 1-9
SF Birr 4-17 Castletown 1-9

2004/2005
R1 Castletown Geoghegan 1-12 Portlaoise 2-17
QF Portlaoise 0-11 UCD 1-20

2005/2006
QF Glenealy (Wicklow) 2-10 Castletown 2-16
SF James Stephens* 5-14 Castletown 0-8

2006/2007
QF Rathnure 2-13 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

2007/2008
SF Ballyboden St Enda's 2-9 Camross 1-11

2008/2009
QF Ballyhale Shamrocks* 1-18 Rathdowney Errill 1-11

2009/2010
QF Clonkill (Westmeath) 1-21 Clough Ballacolla 2-12

2010/2011
QF Rathdowney Errill 0-14 O' Loughlin Gaels** 3-16

2011/2012
SF Oulart the Ballagh 3-12 Clough Ballacolla 2-11

2012/13
QF Rathdowney Errill 1-12 Clonkill 0-12
SF Kilcormac Killoughey** 2-12 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

2013/14
QF Camross 1-10 Kilcormac Killoughey 1-18

2014/15
QF Kilmacud Crokes 0-23 Rathdowney Errill 0-22 AET

2015/16
QF Clough Ballacolla 0-13 Oulart the Ballagh 3-8

2016/17
QF Cuala 4-16 Borris in Ossory Kilcotton 1-14

2017/18
QF Camross 0-13 Mount Leinster Rangers 0-19

2018/19
QF Camross 2-16 Naomh Éanna (Wexford) 3-18

2019/20
QF Rathdowney Errill 4-16 St Rynagh's 0-10
SF St Mullin's (Carlow) 2-17 Rathdowney Errill 1-19

2020/21
Not Played

2021/22
QF Clough Ballacolla 1-17 Raparees 0-12
SF Clough Ballacolla         Kilmacud Crokes

Quote from: burdizzo on November 27, 2021, 10:17:52 PM
Probably Castletown...?!

I had forgotten about Rathowney Errill beating St Rynagh's. Offaly club hurling would still be considered stronger than Laois by many.

Well... Offaly hurling was at its lowest ebb at that time, and Offaly certainly would have been ranked below Laois. I think the ease with which R/E won that game was a fair reflection of that fact.

Good win for Ballacolla but hard to see how that Raparrees team won wexford. Don't think Ballacolla played as well as they did in the semi-final or final and still had a comfortable enough win. Their backs were excellent. Thought cleere, D maher and Conway were their best players.

Big step up the next day. You'd have to think killmacud will be really focusing on beating Ballyhale in the final.
Maybe they'll take ballacola for granted.

Quote from: burdizzo on November 28, 2021, 06:31:18 PM
Well... Offaly hurling was at its lowest ebb at that time, and Offaly certainly would have been ranked below Laois. I think the ease with which R/E won that game was a fair reflection of that fact.

At InterCounty level, yes.
But that was the first win in 20 years. And Rynaghs would have been favourites to win.
Ballacolla were evens last night.

Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 28, 2021, 05:59:51 PM
Put the information below together for no particular reason. It has been a competition that has been very good to Laois teams and particularly to Laois hurling supporters. If not in terms of trophies, then in terms of something to follow and a consistent ability to compete with the best in the province.
The information is from Wikipedia, but from memory it's accurate in terms of results and opposition anyways.
Unfortunately, I remember almost all of them!

Played- 101 (incl. replays/excl. 3 All Ireland games)
Won- 47, Drew- 6, Lost- 48
Replays Won- 3 , Replays Lost- 3

*= Provincial Winner
**= All Ireland Finalist
***= All Ireland Winner

1970/71
QF- Clonad 2-6 St Rynaghs**1-12

1971/72
R1 Birr 0-6 Camross 2-7
QF Bennettsbridge 1-9 Camross 1-1

1972/73
R1 Eire Óg (Kildare) 1-7 Borris in Ossory 2-7
QF Borris in Ossory 3-7 The Fenians 4-12

1973/74
QF Camross 2-2 St Rynaghs 1-8

1974/75
QF St Rynaghs 2-3 Camross 0-9
QF (R) Camross 1-6 St Rynaghs 2-8

1975/76
QF Clonaslee 3-8 St Rynaghs 2-14

1976/77
QF Camross 2-10 Kilmacud Crokes 2-8
SF Camross 2-8 St Rynaghs 1-8
F Camross 3-9 James Stephens 1-14
AISF Ballycran 0-7 Camross 3-12
AIF Glen Rovers*** 2-12 Camross 0-8

1977/78
QF Eire Óg (Kildare) 0-3 Camross 2-12
SF Camross 1-5 Rathnure 1-9**

1978/79
QF Kilmessan (Meath) 0-11 Camross 3-12
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks 4-12** Camross 2-2

1979/80
QF Camross 6-12 Castletown Geoghegan 3-9
SF Camross 3-10 Rathnure 2-12
F Crumlin* 3-5 Camross 0-11

1980/81
QF Ardclough (Kildare) 3-13 Camross 3-9

1981/82
QF Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-5 Portlaoise 5-11
SF James Stephens*** 2-15 Portlaoise 0-9

1982/83
QF Portlaoise 2-8 St Vincent's 1-5
SF Buffers Alley 1-14 Portlaoise 1-9

1983/84
R1 Avondale (Wicklow) 1-8 Portlaoise 8-8
QF Buffers Alley 0-14 Portlaoise 2-9

1984/85
QF Portlaoise 3-16 Raharney 0-10
SF Kinnity 2-20 Portlaoise 0-5

1985/86
QF Arklow Rock Parnells (Wicklow) 2-5 Clonad 1-9
SF Buffers Alley** 5-11 Clonad 0-11

1986/87
QF Camross 3-8 Faughs 0-14
SF Camross 1-7 Clara 2-3
F Rathnure** 2-16 Camross 3-9

1987/88
R1 Portlaoise 2-21 Kiltegan (Wicklow) 0-7
QF Portlaoise 0-14 Glenmore 1-8
SF Portlaoise 1-12 St Rynaghs 0-7
F Rathnure* 3-8 Portlaoise 1-13

1988/89
QF Portlaoise 1-9 St Vincent's 2-6
QF (R) St Vincent's 5-13 Portlaoise 5-6

1989/90
QF Brownstown 1-9 Portlaoise 4-14
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks*** 1-12 Portlaoise 2-6

1990/91
R1 Camross 2-15 St Patrick's (Wicklow) 1-6
QF Camross 2-9 Rathnure 2-8
SF Camross 3-8 O' Toole's 2-6
F Glenmore*** 0-15 Camross 1-9

1991/92
R1 Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-7 Portlaoise 5-5
QF Portlaoise 1-4 Buffers Alley 1-12

1992/93
R1 Raharney 0-11 Clonad 0-11
R1 (R) Clonad 2-11 Raharney 1-8
QF Clonad 1-9 Buffers Alley* 3-10

1993/94
QF St Rynaghs* 2-13 Camross 1-13

1994/95
QF Oulart the Ballagh 1-12 Camross 0-5

1995/96
QF Castletown 0-8 Oulart the Ballagh 2-17

1996/97
QF Camross 1-17 Loughlene Gaels 0-8
SF Camross 2-6 Rathnure 0-10
F Camross 1-12 O' Toole's 2-5
AISF Athenry*** 4-17 Camross 3-3

1997/98
R1 Castletown 3-17 Loughlene Gaels 2-10
QF Castletown 0–17 Oulart the Ballagh 1-14
QF (R) Oulart the Ballagh 0-10 Castletown 1-8
SF Castletown 3-8 O' Toole's 2-9
F Birr*** 0-11 Castletown 0-5

1998/99
QF Portlaoise w/o Trim scr
SF Portlaoise 0-6 Graigue Ballycallan 0-5
F Rathnure** 1-13 Portlaoise 1-6

1999/2000
QF Faughs 2-2 Castletown 1-12
SF Castletown 1-14 St Martin's (Wexford) 1-9
F Birr 1-16 Castletown 0-11

2000/2001
R1 Castletown 2-10 Coill Dubh (Kildare) 0-11
QF Castletown 2-10 Birr 1-8
SF Graigue Ballycallan** 2-12 Castletown 0-7

2001/2002
QF Kiltegan 0-4 Castletown 2-12
SF Castletown 1-10 Faythe Harriers 1-5
F Birr 0-10 Castletown 1-7
F (R) Birr*** 2-10 Castletown 0-5

2002/2003
R1 Castletown 2-2 Carnew Emmetts (Wicklow) 0-8
R1 (R) Carnew Emmetts 1-9 Castletown 2-13
QF Castletown 1-12 Birr*** 2-12

2003/2004
R1 Glenealy (Wicklow) 0-6 Castletown 2-11
QF Castletown 0-14 Craobh Chiarain (Dublin) 1-9
SF Birr 4-17 Castletown 1-9

2004/2005
R1 Castletown Geoghegan 1-12 Portlaoise 2-17
QF Portlaoise 0-11 UCD 1-20

2005/2006
QF Glenealy (Wicklow) 2-10 Castletown 2-16
SF James Stephens* 5-14 Castletown 0-8

2006/2007
QF Rathnure 2-13 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

2007/2008
SF Ballyboden St Enda's 2-9 Camross 1-11

2008/2009
QF Ballyhale Shamrocks* 1-18 Rathdowney Errill 1-11

2009/2010
QF Clonkill (Westmeath) 1-21 Clough Ballacolla 2-12

2010/2011
QF Rathdowney Errill 0-14 O' Loughlin Gaels** 3-16

2011/2012
SF Oulart the Ballagh 3-12 Clough Ballacolla 2-11

2012/13
QF Rathdowney Errill 1-12 Clonkill 0-12
SF Kilcormac Killoughey** 2-12 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

2013/14
QF Camross 1-10 Kilcormac Killoughey 1-18

2014/15
QF Kilmacud Crokes 0-23 Rathdowney Errill 0-22 AET

2015/16
QF Clough Ballacolla 0-13 Oulart the Ballagh 3-8

2016/17
QF Cuala 4-16 Borris in Ossory Kilcotton 1-14

2017/18
QF Camross 0-13 Mount Leinster Rangers 0-19

2018/19
QF Camross 2-16 Naomh Éanna (Wexford) 3-18

2019/20
QF Rathdowney Errill 4-16 St Rynagh's 0-10
SF St Mullin's (Carlow) 2-17 Rathdowney Errill 1-19

2020/21
Not Played

2021/22
QF Clough Ballacolla 1-17 Raparees 0-12
SF Clough Ballacolla         Kilmacud Crokes

Excellent Post

Laois teams were very competitive in the 70's/80's/90's

3 wins in the last 10 years in the Leinster championship is poor return in comparison to what had gone before

Quote from: tippmaninlaois on November 29, 2021, 03:23:22 PM

Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 28, 2021, 05:59:51 PM
Put the information below together for no particular reason. It has been a competition that has been very good to Laois teams and particularly to Laois hurling supporters. If not in terms of trophies, then in terms of something to follow and a consistent ability to compete with the best in the province.
The information is from Wikipedia, but from memory it's accurate in terms of results and opposition anyways.
Unfortunately, I remember almost all of them!

Played- 101 (incl. replays/excl. 3 All Ireland games)
Won- 47, Drew- 6, Lost- 48
Replays Won- 3 , Replays Lost- 3

*= Provincial Winner
**= All Ireland Finalist
***= All Ireland Winner

1970/71
QF- Clonad 2-6 St Rynaghs**1-12

1971/72
R1 Birr 0-6 Camross 2-7
QF Bennettsbridge 1-9 Camross 1-1

1972/73
R1 Eire Óg (Kildare) 1-7 Borris in Ossory 2-7
QF Borris in Ossory 3-7 The Fenians 4-12

1973/74
QF Camross 2-2 St Rynaghs 1-8

1974/75
QF St Rynaghs 2-3 Camross 0-9
QF (R) Camross 1-6 St Rynaghs 2-8

1975/76
QF Clonaslee 3-8 St Rynaghs 2-14

1976/77
QF Camross 2-10 Kilmacud Crokes 2-8
SF Camross 2-8 St Rynaghs 1-8
F Camross 3-9 James Stephens 1-14
AISF Ballycran 0-7 Camross 3-12
AIF Glen Rovers*** 2-12 Camross 0-8

1977/78
QF Eire Óg (Kildare) 0-3 Camross 2-12
SF Camross 1-5 Rathnure 1-9**

1978/79
QF Kilmessan (Meath) 0-11 Camross 3-12
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks 4-12** Camross 2-2

1979/80
QF Camross 6-12 Castletown Geoghegan 3-9
SF Camross 3-10 Rathnure 2-12
F Crumlin* 3-5 Camross 0-11

1980/81
QF Ardclough (Kildare) 3-13 Camross 3-9

1981/82
QF Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-5 Portlaoise 5-11
SF James Stephens*** 2-15 Portlaoise 0-9

1982/83
QF Portlaoise 2-8 St Vincent's 1-5
SF Buffers Alley 1-14 Portlaoise 1-9

1983/84
R1 Avondale (Wicklow) 1-8 Portlaoise 8-8
QF Buffers Alley 0-14 Portlaoise 2-9

1984/85
QF Portlaoise 3-16 Raharney 0-10
SF Kinnity 2-20 Portlaoise 0-5

1985/86
QF Arklow Rock Parnells (Wicklow) 2-5 Clonad 1-9
SF Buffers Alley** 5-11 Clonad 0-11

1986/87
QF Camross 3-8 Faughs 0-14
SF Camross 1-7 Clara 2-3
F Rathnure** 2-16 Camross 3-9

1987/88
R1 Portlaoise 2-21 Kiltegan (Wicklow) 0-7
QF Portlaoise 0-14 Glenmore 1-8
SF Portlaoise 1-12 St Rynaghs 0-7
F Rathnure* 3-8 Portlaoise 1-13

1988/89
QF Portlaoise 1-9 St Vincent's 2-6
QF (R) St Vincent's 5-13 Portlaoise 5-6

1989/90
QF Brownstown 1-9 Portlaoise 4-14
SF Ballyhale Shamrocks*** 1-12 Portlaoise 2-6

1990/91
R1 Camross 2-15 St Patrick's (Wicklow) 1-6
QF Camross 2-9 Rathnure 2-8
SF Camross 3-8 O' Toole's 2-6
F Glenmore*** 0-15 Camross 1-9

1991/92
R1 Naomh Eoin (Carlow) 0-7 Portlaoise 5-5
QF Portlaoise 1-4 Buffers Alley 1-12

1992/93
R1 Raharney 0-11 Clonad 0-11
R1 (R) Clonad 2-11 Raharney 1-8
QF Clonad 1-9 Buffers Alley* 3-10

1993/94
QF St Rynaghs* 2-13 Camross 1-13

1994/95
QF Oulart the Ballagh 1-12 Camross 0-5

1995/96
QF Castletown 0-8 Oulart the Ballagh 2-17

1996/97
QF Camross 1-17 Loughlene Gaels 0-8
SF Camross 2-6 Rathnure 0-10
F Camross 1-12 O' Toole's 2-5
AISF Athenry*** 4-17 Camross 3-3

1997/98
R1 Castletown 3-17 Loughlene Gaels 2-10
QF Castletown 0–17 Oulart the Ballagh 1-14
QF (R) Oulart the Ballagh 0-10 Castletown 1-8
SF Castletown 3-8 O' Toole's 2-9
F Birr*** 0-11 Castletown 0-5

1998/99
QF Portlaoise w/o Trim scr
SF Portlaoise 0-6 Graigue Ballycallan 0-5
F Rathnure** 1-13 Portlaoise 1-6

1999/2000
QF Faughs 2-2 Castletown 1-12
SF Castletown 1-14 St Martin's (Wexford) 1-9
F Birr 1-16 Castletown 0-11

2000/2001
R1 Castletown 2-10 Coill Dubh (Kildare) 0-11
QF Castletown 2-10 Birr 1-8
SF Graigue Ballycallan** 2-12 Castletown 0-7

2001/2002
QF Kiltegan 0-4 Castletown 2-12
SF Castletown 1-10 Faythe Harriers 1-5
F Birr 0-10 Castletown 1-7
F (R) Birr*** 2-10 Castletown 0-5

2002/2003
R1 Castletown 2-2 Carnew Emmetts (Wicklow) 0-8
R1 (R) Carnew Emmetts 1-9 Castletown 2-13
QF Castletown 1-12 Birr*** 2-12

2003/2004
R1 Glenealy (Wicklow) 0-6 Castletown 2-11
QF Castletown 0-14 Craobh Chiarain (Dublin) 1-9
SF Birr 4-17 Castletown 1-9

2004/2005
R1 Castletown Geoghegan 1-12 Portlaoise 2-17
QF Portlaoise 0-11 UCD 1-20

2005/2006
QF Glenealy (Wicklow) 2-10 Castletown 2-16
SF James Stephens* 5-14 Castletown 0-8

2006/2007
QF Rathnure 2-13 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

2007/2008
SF Ballyboden St Enda's 2-9 Camross 1-11

2008/2009
QF Ballyhale Shamrocks* 1-18 Rathdowney Errill 1-11

2009/2010
QF Clonkill (Westmeath) 1-21 Clough Ballacolla 2-12

2010/2011
QF Rathdowney Errill 0-14 O' Loughlin Gaels** 3-16

2011/2012
SF Oulart the Ballagh 3-12 Clough Ballacolla 2-11

2012/13
QF Rathdowney Errill 1-12 Clonkill 0-12
SF Kilcormac Killoughey** 2-12 Rathdowney Errill 0-14

2013/14
QF Camross 1-10 Kilcormac Killoughey 1-18

2014/15
QF Kilmacud Crokes 0-23 Rathdowney Errill 0-22 AET

2015/16
QF Clough Ballacolla 0-13 Oulart the Ballagh 3-8

2016/17
QF Cuala 4-16 Borris in Ossory Kilcotton 1-14

2017/18
QF Camross 0-13 Mount Leinster Rangers 0-19

2018/19
QF Camross 2-16 Naomh Éanna (Wexford) 3-18

2019/20
QF Rathdowney Errill 4-16 St Rynagh's 0-10
SF St Mullin's (Carlow) 2-17 Rathdowney Errill 1-19

2020/21
Not Played

2021/22
QF Clough Ballacolla 1-17 Raparees 0-12
SF Clough Ballacolla         Kilmacud Crokes

Excellent Post

Laois teams were very competitive in the 70's/80's/90's

3 wins in the last 10 years in the Leinster championship is poor return in comparison to what had gone before

Very poor, I know when you look back at the year winning the county is always the main objective but I'd say there is some regrets in the RE and CB camps over some of the games. The 2012 RE loss to Kilcormac and 2015 CB loss to Oulart stand out. Both seasons the KK champs had been turned over on the other side of the draw and both games both CB and RE should have won. I remember the CB game in particular and I've never seen a team with such potent forwards miss as many chances, think there was 2 missed penalties thrown in for good measure too and Oulart then went on to win out Leinster. The RE loss against Kilcormac was another one, they were such a better team on the day and couldn't get it done...

Hopefully CB can make amends for the Laois clubs over the past 10 years or so this year but it will be very hard done. This Kilmacud crowd is a good if not better in some areas as the Cuala teams from a few years back and it's very hard to see CB beaten them. Hopefully they can play to their full ability on the day and if they do that then you never know!

Ballacolla at 3/1 to beat Crokes with a +4 handicap. Definately worth a flutter.

Have CB any injury concerns or do the have a full squad to pick from.

Just for clarity, 3/1 for the win and evens with the handicap.

Quote from: redsetanta on December 10, 2021, 11:04:28 AM
Ballacolla at 3/1 to beat Crokes with a +4 handicap. Definately worth a flutter.

Have CB any injury concerns or do the have a full squad to pick from.

I just can't see it, unfortunately.
I don't think Clough Ballacolla will be within 6 points. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Quote from: redsetanta on December 10, 2021, 11:04:28 AM
Ballacolla at 3/1 to beat Crokes with a +4 handicap. Definately worth a flutter.

Best of luck to Ballacolla tomorrow.

Great year for them. Nothing to lose. No pressure. Have a craic at them.

Hopefully Picky and Dunphy can bkth catch fire.

Best of luck to Ballacolla tomorrow.

Quote from: redsetanta on December 10, 2021, 11:14:20 AM
Just for clarity, 3/1 for the win and evens with the handicap.

It will take a Laois type performance from 2019 game against Dublin for CB to get something from this. This is a seriously strong Crokes team, I'm living up in Dublin myself these days and from talking to a few of local GAA lads in the know the talk is this Crokes team are fancying there chances at taken down Ballyhale and going strong for the All Ireland.... hopefully that is in their thoughts tomorrow and they slightly underestimate the CB lads!

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Quote from: redsetanta on December 10, 2021, 11:14:20 AM
Just for clarity, 3/1 for the win and evens with the handicap.

It will take a Laois type performance from 2019 game against Dublin for CB to get something from this. This is a seriously strong Crokes team, I'm living up in Dublin myself these days and from talking to a few of local GAA lads in the know the talk is this Crokes team are fancying there chances at taken down Ballyhale and going strong for the All Ireland.... hopefully that is in their thoughts tomorrow and they slightly underestimate the CB lads!

Full forward line for Kilmacud look very dangerous. If Clough Ballacolla manage to contain Ronan Hayes and Considine for as long as possible they'll have a great chance. I see Kilmacud winning by 5-6 points but I hope I'm proved wrong!

I give CB a chance. Very balanced side and when on form they can be very good. If it's close in the second half they have a knack of bringing it home. Saw Kilmacud on TV a couple of times and thought they looked about the same standard as our top 4 teams.

Was at the Dublin final when Crokes beat Na Fianna . They weren't anything special to be honest that day . They conceded 2-25 granted AET and Na Fianna should have put them away .
Can't see Ballacolla conceding as soft goals as the Westmeath champions the last day . Don't think there will be much in it in the end .
Best of luck to C/B

Well that was some performance by Clough Ballacolla. Were the better team and had brilliant performances all over the pitch. Hurled like men possessed. The whole county will be behind ye in the final.

Great win. Very much deserved. I was wrong.
A big upturn for Clough Ballacolla and Laois teams in a very short space of time.
The Wexford & Dublin champions in consecutive games is great going.

Clough-Ballacolla did Laois proud this evening - the best of luck to them in Leinster Final.

Never as happy to be wrong about a pre match prediction in my life. Huge congrats to CB, I felt they were the better team all over on the night and thoroughly deserved their win. Darren Maher was outstanding on their main man.

Delighted for C/B tonight - hurled a super brand of hurling and should give the final a good lash of it - wouldn't be surprised to see them win it out either.

Actually, if they play with that tenacity and skill, I wouldn't be shocked, either. Their first touch was way better than Kilmacud's, and they weren't one bit afraid of the physical stuff, either. Croker might suit Ballyhale a bit better, though.
Still and all, super, super win for them. Well done!

Congratulations to all in Clough Ballacolla,
Unbelievable to be heading to Croke Park with your club to hurl a Leinster final.
Great for Laois hurling too to be in the spotlight for the right reasons, & as Declan Laffan said afterwards two of the toughest games they've had was in the semi final and final in Laois.

Good luck for the massive week ahead
I think a lot of Laois hurling people will travel next Sunday.

Great stuff. Congratulations to all involved with the club. Delighted also for the wider hurling community.

A serious serious achievement, first team since 2001. To compete with a semi professional outfit like kilmacud in this day age when S & C is just as important as first touch is some going. Hopefully CB have another serious fight left in them.

After all the big games Clough Ballacolla have been involved in the past few months, the one today in Tullamore could prove to be the biggest (and they weren't even there!)

If Rynaghs had to get the win Ballacolla would have won the Leinster final

100%!

Ballyhale will be very dangerous now after getting out of jail today. What time is game fixed for next Sunday?

Game is on at 13.30 on Sunday.

Ballyhale very lucky alright and they've been pushed hard in both games.

Not sure Rynaghs would have been a cert win as pressure would be on CB then.

They still have a great chance though.

Quote from: Laois man on December 12, 2021, 08:19:37 PM
Ballyhale will be very dangerous now after getting out of jail today. What time is game fixed for next Sunday?

Ballyhale are a big step up and have no shortage of marquee players. They have been nearly beaten a few times over the last decade but there is a big difference between that and actually been beaten. With 10 senior final wins they are the standard bearers for Leinster hurling and have played more hurling in Croke park than many county teams.

However, CB at full tilt will give them plenty of it.

Quote from: Keyser Söze on December 12, 2021, 04:07:07 PM
After all the big games Clough Ballacolla have been involved in the past few months, the one today in Tullamore could prove to be the biggest (and they weren't even there!)

I'm often wrong. But this turned out to be devastatingly true.
I'm certain that Clough Ballacolla would have beaten Rynaghs. Instead, today is how their year finished.

A tough day at the office for CB but they can be fierce proud of their year. A couple of flukey goals when the game was still up for grabs didn't help.

I was certainly wrong.

Thought the 3rd goal was the killer. Heads definately dropped after that. CB were actually outscoring Ballyhale but the goals killed it. I don't think CB had a sniff of a goal. Bigger names had a bad day and far too many times wrong options were taken, misplaced passes, not playing it to the supporting run and taking long punts.
The physicality of Ballyhale was on another level. Fennelly is some beast.

All in all though the players will be the most disappointed but they've had a great journey and it was great while it lasted. Fantastic crowd from CB in Croke Park and they stuck with their team right to the end.

Not too many county champions able to handle Ballyhale on form. No other club team in the country with such an embarrassment of riches in the forwards. They dominate Kilkenny and are possibly on course to go down as the best club hurling team ever.

CB were phenomenal until the goals started and then the confidence drained. They should be extremely proud of their year and represented Laois impressively on the big stage.

They will be the team to beat in Laois next year.

Fantastic achievement from clough ballacolla. Further proof that there is quality hurlers in this county which can compete with the best.
As regards next years club championship I think it has all the potential to be even better than the last few years. It amazing the way things can change in the matter of months
Bk and Re will be looking on at CB achievements and will no doubt be thinking 'it could of been us'. Camross to a lesser extent but write them off at your peril.
If one or two of CB spiritual leaders ie mick mc, Darren maher or Willie hyland don't commit, the landscape could change considerably . Rumours abound too that Lee cleere has committed to go travelling next year. One thing for sure it will be ultra competitive again which can only be a good thing for laois hurling.

Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

Quote from: Laois man on December 21, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

The Shamrocks look to be exceptional.

I'd fancy any of our top clubs to compete with the rest of the Kilkenny clubs.

Quote from: Laois man on December 21, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

Yes, you'd wonder if a beating like that would knock them back a bit.

Keeping the fullback on Fennelly, who is a beast was a big problem from the off, also the further you keep him away from goal the better, as once he gets a charge he's hard to stop. If playing a sweeper then it needed to be on him, but it limited the efforts up front.

Colin has been threatening a performance like that all year, it clicked for him on the day. Other than that there was plenty of positives.

Kilkenny managed to leave a lot of one one ones which they exploited. I wouldn't get downhearted with the result, as they played brilliantly throughout the championship

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Quote from: Laois man on December 21, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

The Shamrocks look to be exceptional.

I'd fancy any of our top clubs to compete with the rest of the Kilkenny clubs.

Completely delusional even laughable comment

For the Last 20 odd years the Kilkenny coupled with the Galway Championships have been the 2 highest quality Senior Hurling Club Championships in the Country

Ballacolla got an absolute whipping in the leinster final breaking the 1991 record set by Birr v Ballyhale.

As a line of Form

Ballyhale beat Ballacolla by 27 points

in the Kk championship

They beat OLG by 4 Points in the Final

In the Semi Final James Stephens by 6 points

in the quarter final Bennetsbridge by 9 points

Are lads seriously thinking that either Ballacolla or Borris  Kilcotton would break into the top 8-10 Senior clubs in Kilkenny?

as for the remainder of laois senior clubs they would be very lucky if any of them were to survive the intermediate grade.

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Quote from: Zooming around on December 21, 2021, 01:11:45 PM

Quote from: Laois man on December 21, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

The Shamrocks look to be exceptional.

I'd fancy any of our top clubs to compete with the rest of the Kilkenny clubs.

Completely delusional even laughable comment

For the Last 20 odd years the Kilkenny coupled with the Galway Championships have been the 2 highest quality Senior Hurling Club Championships in the Country

Ballacolla got an absolute whipping in the leinster final breaking the 1991 record set by Birr v Ballyhale.

As a line of Form

Ballyhale beat Ballacolla by 27 points

in the Kk championship

They beat OLG by 4 Points in the Final

In the Semi Final James Stephens by 6 points

in the quarter final Bennetsbridge by 9 points

Are lads seriously thinking that either Ballacolla or Borris  Kilcotton would break into the top 8-10 Senior clubs in Kilkenny?

as for the remainder of laois senior clubs they would be very lucky if any of them were to survive the intermediate grade.

The Shamrocks skew everything. You conveniently left out that they beat Tullaroan (semi Finalists) by about 30 points and beat a very good Dicksboro team in last years final by 20.

I'd be pretty sure that Ballacolla or Borris could beat Erins Own or The Rower Inistioge or Lisdowney or Clara or Graigue Ballycallan.

A better line of form would be how close Ballinakill (without Cha) got to Glenmore. Glenmore won the KK intermediate and therefore could conceivably be considered top ten in Kilkenny. Ballinakill are 8th or 9th in Laois.

And Naas beat Glenmore by a nice bit in the leinster intermediate Sfinal by all accounts glenmore and the kilkenny intermediate cship was poor this year. I just offer wonder would we in laois be better off to go back to a junior/intermediate and senior Cship for get this Senior B thing. Maybe have ten senior teams then a very strong intermediate and junior grades could only be good for the game what do people think? And maybe who ever goes up senior gets 2 years up there to find the level of senior hurling. It would take a bit of work but it's do able.

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Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 22, 2021, 05:31:48 PM

Quote from: Zooming around on December 21, 2021, 01:11:45 PM

Quote from: Laois man on December 21, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

The Shamrocks look to be exceptional.

I'd fancy any of our top clubs to compete with the rest of the Kilkenny clubs.

Completely delusional even laughable comment

For the Last 20 odd years the Kilkenny coupled with the Galway Championships have been the 2 highest quality Senior Hurling Club Championships in the Country

Ballacolla got an absolute whipping in the leinster final breaking the 1991 record set by Birr v Ballyhale.

As a line of Form

Ballyhale beat Ballacolla by 27 points

in the Kk championship

They beat OLG by 4 Points in the Final

In the Semi Final James Stephens by 6 points

in the quarter final Bennetsbridge by 9 points

Are lads seriously thinking that either Ballacolla or Borris  Kilcotton would break into the top 8-10 Senior clubs in Kilkenny?

as for the remainder of laois senior clubs they would be very lucky if any of them were to survive the intermediate grade.

The Shamrocks skew everything. You conveniently left out that they beat Tullaroan (semi Finalists) by about 30 points and beat a very good Dicksboro team in last years final by 20.

I'd be pretty sure that Ballacolla or Borris could beat Erins Own or The Rower Inistioge or Lisdowney or Clara or Graigue Ballycallan.

A better line of form would be how close Ballinakill (without Cha) got to Glenmore. Glenmore won the KK intermediate and therefore could conceivably be considered top ten in Kilkenny. Ballinakill are 8th or 9th in Laois.

The 9th best team in laois "got close" to the 13th best team in Kilkenny

That the problem here ye confuse moral victories with actual victories

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Quote from: Zooming around on December 22, 2021, 05:53:08 PM

Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 22, 2021, 05:31:48 PM

Quote from: Zooming around on December 21, 2021, 01:11:45 PM

Quote from: Laois man on December 21, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
Great year for Cbolla but folks they got a serious trimming Sunday unfortunately I think the biggest beating every in a leinster club final. They standard of kkenny club hurling and Laois club hurling is miles apart wheather we like it or not.

The Shamrocks look to be exceptional.

I'd fancy any of our top clubs to compete with the rest of the Kilkenny clubs.

Completely delusional even laughable comment

For the Last 20 odd years the Kilkenny coupled with the Galway Championships have been the 2 highest quality Senior Hurling Club Championships in the Country

Ballacolla got an absolute whipping in the leinster final breaking the 1991 record set by Birr v Ballyhale.

As a line of Form

Ballyhale beat Ballacolla by 27 points

in the Kk championship

They beat OLG by 4 Points in the Final

In the Semi Final James Stephens by 6 points

in the quarter final Bennetsbridge by 9 points

Are lads seriously thinking that either Ballacolla or Borris  Kilcotton would break into the top 8-10 Senior clubs in Kilkenny?

as for the remainder of laois senior clubs they would be very lucky if any of them were to survive the intermediate grade.

The Shamrocks skew everything. You conveniently left out that they beat Tullaroan (semi Finalists) by about 30 points and beat a very good Dicksboro team in last years final by 20.

I'd be pretty sure that Ballacolla or Borris could beat Erins Own or The Rower Inistioge or Lisdowney or Clara or Graigue Ballycallan.

A better line of form would be how close Ballinakill (without Cha) got to Glenmore. Glenmore won the KK intermediate and therefore could conceivably be considered top ten in Kilkenny. Ballinakill are 8th or 9th in Laois.

The 9th best team in laois "got close" to the 13th best team in Kilkenny

That the problem here ye confuse moral victories with actual victories

No. Nobody mentioned anything about moral victories.

I used that example to blow your "Are lads seriously thinking that either Ballacolla or Borris  Kilcotton would break into the top 8-10 Senior clubs in Kilkenny?" comment out of the water and expose it for the bullshit that it is. Ballacolla and Borris would compete well with most senior teams in Kilkenny (outside of the shamrocks and O'Loughlin Gaels).

Aye

"Compete well"

I noticed you said

not beat

The reality is that as I said Ballacolla and Borris previously would be in a relegation battle every year in the KK senior championship.

The rest of laois senior teams would be facing the same in the kk intermediate championship

A laois club gets to a Leinster first time in 20 years and ye lads lose all perspective on things

Remind me again how many times laois intermediate and junior teams get to and win those Leinster titles versus Kk teams

Never mind all ireland wins

The reality also is Ballyhale last Sunday would beat Laois and there's no guarantee they will win the club all ireland.

Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 23, 2021, 11:32:36 AM
Aye

"Compete well"

I noticed you said

not beat

The reality is that as I said Ballacolla and Borris previously would be in a relegation battle every year in the KK senior championship.

The rest of laois senior teams would be facing the same in the kk intermediate championship

A laois club gets to a Leinster first time in 20 years and ye lads lose all perspective on things

Remind me again how many times laois intermediate and junior teams get to and win those Leinster titles versus Kk teams

Never mind all ireland wins

The reality also is Ballyhale last Sunday would beat Laois and there's no guarantee they will win the club all ireland.

"Compete well" means win some lose some. Hence the word compete ie the result is not known in advance. The Ballinakill result showed that our 2nd tier champions can compete well with the Kilkenny 2nd tier champions so to say that Borris and Ballacolla would be in a relegation battle every year or that the rest of our senior clubs would be in an intermediate relegation battle is way off the mark and laughable.

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Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 23, 2021, 11:32:36 AM
Aye

"Compete well"

I noticed you said

not beat

The reality is that as I said Ballacolla and Borris previously would be in a relegation battle every year in the KK senior championship.

The rest of laois senior teams would be facing the same in the kk intermediate championship

A laois club gets to a Leinster first time in 20 years and ye lads lose all perspective on things

Remind me again how many times laois intermediate and junior teams get to and win those Leinster titles versus Kk teams

Never mind all ireland wins

The reality also is Ballyhale last Sunday would beat Laois and there's no guarantee they will win the club all ireland.

"Compete well" means win some lose some. Hence the word compete ie the result is not known in advance. The Ballinakill result showed that our 2nd tier champions can compete well with the Kilkenny 2nd tier champions so to say that Borris and Ballacolla would be in a relegation battle every year or that the rest of our senior clubs would be in an intermediate relegation battle is way off the mark and laughable.

Ballinakill the 9th best team in laois couldn't beat Glenmore the 13th best team in Kilkenny this year

That's the reality

Plain and Simple

Tell me this

How many times have kilkenny and laois clubs played each other in junior intermediate and senior Leinster club championships down the years ?

How many times have Laois clubs won out of that total

Maybe we should do similar with Offaly,Wexford,Dublin?

What county have ye a greater win than loss% against?

Even your senior clubs record against other county's senior club representatives have been laughable since the turn of the century.

If the laois senior club championship was in any way comparable to the kilkenny one,laois clubs would be winning Leinster championships

Not appearing in one in 20 years and then setting all sorts of unwanted records

You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Hard luck to ballacolla. I was in Croke park on saturdag but couldn't swing getting away twice.

Lot to be proud of thos year.
I like many didn't think they'd win 1 let along 2 finals but they had some great performances. Rathdowney, Borris and crokws games were serious and fair play to them.

No shame in losing to that shamrocks team.
Nice day, fast pitch and serious forwards. Tough way to end the year. But they brought lots of positivity to laois hurling over the last few weeks.

Hopefully they keep up a big laois turnout.

Quote from: Zooming around on December 23, 2021, 01:59:16 PM
You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 23, 2021, 07:01:51 PM

Quote from: Zooming around on December 23, 2021, 01:59:16 PM
You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

I seem???? Don't make assumptions. They make an ass out of you and me. Although, you have managed the first half of that all on your own.

You're now gone on to make yet another separate claim. I suppose we should be thankful that you've accepted that your original claims where you belittled CB and BIOK are bullshit.

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Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 23, 2021, 07:01:51 PM

Quote from: Zooming around on December 23, 2021, 01:59:16 PM
You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

I seem???? Don't make assumptions. They make an ass out of you and me. Although, you have managed the first half of that all on your own.

You're now gone on to make yet another separate claim. I suppose we should be thankful that you've accepted that your original claims where you belittled CB and BIOK are bullshit.

Deflect Deflect Deflect

How many times have laois clubs beaten kilkenny clubs in senior intermediate or junior Leinster club championships?

How many times have kilkenny clubs beaten laois clubs in this 3 competitions

Since the junior and intermediate Leinster club championships were brought in,how many times have laois clubs won it?


We all know what Laois clubs have done in the senior club championships,one Leinster final appearance in 20 years.

Maybe look at the actual facts Son and stop deluding yourself

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Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 23, 2021, 07:01:51 PM

Quote from: Zooming around on December 23, 2021, 01:59:16 PM
You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

I seem???? Don't make assumptions. They make an ass out of you and me. Although, you have managed the first half of that all on your own.

You're now gone on to make yet another separate claim. I suppose we should be thankful that you've accepted that your original claims where you belittled CB and BIOK are bullshit.

Deflect Deflect Deflect

How many times have laois clubs beaten kilkenny clubs in senior intermediate or junior Leinster club championships?

How many times have kilkenny clubs beaten laois clubs in this 3 competitions

Since the junior and intermediate Leinster club championships were brought in,how many times have laois clubs won it?


We all know what Laois clubs have done in the senior club championships,one Leinster final appearance in 20 years.

Maybe look at the actual facts Son and stop deluding yourself

So after endless pontifications which have been dismantled you finally come up with numbers and somehow this makes your original argument where you belittled our two best clubs valid??? I don't think so. How do these numbers mean that CB and BIK would be dragged into relegation in KK. They don't. You are of course correct in that Laois clubs haven't won these competitions or beaten KK clubs along the way but that was not your original point which was way off the mark. Tipp haven't won a club all ireland in God knows how long. Are they deluded too?

Deflection is right!

Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 22, 2021, 05:31:48 PM
Are lads seriously thinking that either Ballacolla or Borris  Kilcotton would break into the top 8-10 Senior clubs in Kilkenny?

as for the remainder of laois senior clubs they would be very lucky if any of them were to survive the intermediate grade.

So Rathdowney Errill and Camross would be lucky to survive the intermediate grade in Kilkenny? Hmm....

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Quote from: tippmaninlaois on December 23, 2021, 07:01:51 PM

Quote from: Zooming around on December 23, 2021, 01:59:16 PM
You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

I seem???? Don't make assumptions. They make an ass out of you and me. Although, you have managed the first half of that all on your own.

You're now gone on to make yet another separate claim. I suppose we should be thankful that you've accepted that your original claims where you belittled CB and BIOK are bullshit.

Deflect Deflect Deflect

How many times have laois clubs beaten kilkenny clubs in senior intermediate or junior Leinster club championships?

How many times have kilkenny clubs beaten laois clubs in this 3 competitions

Since the junior and intermediate Leinster club championships were brought in,how many times have laois clubs won it?


We all know what Laois clubs have done in the senior club championships,one Leinster final appearance in 20 years.

Maybe look at the actual facts Son and stop deluding yourself

So after endless pontifications which have been dismantled you finally come up with numbers and somehow this makes your original argument where you belittled our two best clubs valid??? I don't think so. How do these numbers mean that CB and BIK would be dragged into relegation in KK. They don't. You are of course correct in that Laois clubs haven't won these competitions or beaten KK clubs along the way but that was not your original point which was way off the mark. Tipp haven't won a club all ireland in God knows how long. Are they deluded too?

Deflection is right!

Drag Tipperary into it and then accuse me of deflection in the next breath

Irony is lost on you,Son

and FYI a Tipp Club won a Provincial Senior Title 2 years ago

If you want to go down the road of comparing Tipp and Laois, fire ahead

You've already made an ass out of yourself comparing laois to kilkenny

Lets deal in the Facts

Leinster Senior Club Championship Winners since 2000

Kilkenny Clubs 12 titles
Offaly 5
Dublin 2
Wexford 1
Carlow 1

No sign of Laois there

Leinster Intermediate Club Championship Winners since its inception in 2006

Kilkenny 12
Carlow 1
Meath 1
Kildare 1
Westmeath 1

again where's Laois!!!!!

Leinster Junior Club Championship Winners since 2000

Kilkenny 15
Wexford 2
Carlow 1
Offaly 1
Westmeath 1


Total Club Titles won

Kilkenny 39
Offaly 6
Wexford 3
Carlow 3
Dublin 2
Westmeath 2
Kildare 2

And Lads think Laois with a Big Fat 0 number of clubs titles at any grade are in any way comparable to Kilkenny Club teams ?

Laughable

Such a strange argument.

Nobody in there right mind thinks a laois team would either win lienster or Kilkenny. Sure we all saw the ballacolla game.
I doubt we'll see it in the next 25 years. 2 generations of hurlers.

But thats not what the initial point was. The best in Kilkenny beats the best in laois. Duh.

The next best in Kilkenny too. And probably 3rd. And 4th. 5th 6th 7th.....

But there comes a place when a team gets competitive. I remember rathdowney giving the kk champs (I think o loighlins) a great game a few years ago. They were competitive.

And I think ballacolla  rathdowney, Borris and maybe camross would win a couple of games each in Kilkenny.

The amount of leinster titles they would win is irrelevant.

And I think using that argument is lousy. If that's the line you draw in the sand then you'll win every argument.
Of course the kk champs will always be favourites against other leibster teams.

Hopefully a laois team can produce a shock in years to come like mount leinster or kilcormac.

Quote from: Robbo on December 29, 2021, 09:01:08 PM
Such a strange argument.

Nobody in there right mind thinks a laois team would either win lienster or Kilkenny. Sure we all saw the ballacolla game.
I doubt we'll see it in the next 25 years. 2 generations of hurlers.

But thats not what the initial point was. The best in Kilkenny beats the best in laois. Duh.

The next best in Kilkenny too. And probably 3rd. And 4th. 5th 6th 7th.....

But there comes a place when a team gets competitive. I remember rathdowney giving the kk champs (I think o loighlins) a great game a few years ago. They were competitive.

And I think ballacolla  rathdowney, Borris and maybe camross would win a couple of games each in Kilkenny.

The amount of leinster titles they would win is irrelevant.

And I think using that argument is lousy. If that's the line you draw in the sand then you'll win every argument.
Of course the kk champs will always be favourites against other leibster teams.

Hopefully a laois team can produce a shock in years to come like mount leinster or kilcormac.

Don't worry, now that you've (among others) exposed his ramblings for what they are he'll be back with another one.

Any news on club hurling managers for 2022?