Brexit.

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seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2019, 10:17:40 PM
It's only 12 miles at its shortest point.. I think there is a sea bridge somewhere over 30miles long!
Brexit will reintroduce duty free on ferries which should be good for wine prices
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

imtommygunn

Quote from: bennydorano on September 11, 2019, 10:16:06 AM
Unionists will withdraw support for the GFA if he pursues such a course according fo the front page of the Irish News today.

As in the DUP? They never supported it anyway so I'm not sure what that would really mean.

markl121

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2019, 10:17:40 PM
It's only 12 miles at its shortest point.. I think there is a sea bridge somewhere over 30miles long!

Problem is, the 12 mile route takes you to the back@rse of nowhere in scotland

Denn Forever

Will anyone notice?

Meanwhile, Scottish judges rule parliament prorogation unlawful.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-4966855[/quote]

Ironies of Ironies, the appeal will be heard in the European court.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Harold Disgracey


Rossfan

DUPUDA and the Brexiteers doing a great job for Irish reunification and Scottish Independence. ;D
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on September 11, 2019, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 10, 2019, 10:17:40 PM
It's only 12 miles at its shortest point.. I think there is a sea bridge somewhere over 30miles long!
Brexit will reintroduce duty free on ferries which should be good for wine prices

I've been stocking up with this company

Portugal vineyards... the Porta 6 red is delicious. £50 for 12 bottles post and packaging in that price
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

weareros

Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 11, 2019, 11:11:53 AM
Interesting from the Tories pollster of choice Lord Ashcroft.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/09/my-northern-ireland-survey-finds-the-union-on-a-knife-edge/

Going by the letter of The GFA, that is the type of poll that should trigger a Border Poll, although if it failed there would not be another for 7 years (not a long wait really). The irony is a backstop that gives north best of both worlds may dampen enthusiasm for UI. You got to think Boris will be delighted with that poll as he has a big stick to beat Arlene and Dodds into submission on top of the imaginary bridge he is going to build for them. But it is not right to preserve a Union that is being held in place by the desires of elderly bigots. It's clear younger people desire Unity and the future should be created for that demographic.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: weareros on September 11, 2019, 11:40:46 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 11, 2019, 11:11:53 AM
Interesting from the Tories pollster of choice Lord Ashcroft.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/09/my-northern-ireland-survey-finds-the-union-on-a-knife-edge/

Going by the letter of The GFA, that is the type of poll that should trigger a Border Poll, although if it failed there would not be another for 7 years (not a long wait really). The irony is a backstop that gives north best of both worlds may dampen enthusiasm for UI.

Indeed - and its further ironic that its nationalists that have less of a problem implementing the backstop and foregoing the move to a UI, and its unionists that are insisting on abolishing the backstop while placing the act of union in serious danger.

I suppose, the split between nationalists/unionists on the poll about the degree of problems a no-deal exit does reflect that unionist mindset. The nationalists appear to see the economic danger  of no-deal & the potential for a border poll sooner - and are prepared to sacrifice the border poll for the economic good by supporting the backstop.
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seafoid

Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 11, 2019, 11:11:53 AM
Interesting from the Tories pollster of choice Lord Ashcroft.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/09/my-northern-ireland-survey-finds-the-union-on-a-knife-edge/

NI is hopelessly polarised

The "how positive do you feel.." chart shows there is no agreement on anyone 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

yellowcard

Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 11, 2019, 11:11:53 AM
Interesting from the Tories pollster of choice Lord Ashcroft.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/09/my-northern-ireland-survey-finds-the-union-on-a-knife-edge/

Interesting results. Brexit has undoubtedly accelerated the support for a UI but the demographics have long been heading that way anyway if you look at the split across the age categories. The poll has only rubber stamped previous polls and indeed the last census result. I think a settling period is required post Brexit but certainly a border poll looks fairly inevitable in the next 20 years and possibly a lot sooner depending on how political events run their course. A lot of planning needs to be done in advance of that and it needs to begin with the Irish government. 

Rossfan

Time for a Citizens Assembly to look into all aspects of an All Ireland State.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

omaghjoe

Dunno how accurate this poll is... There is a couple of prominent Unionists on here who appear to of Nationalist background

armaghniac

Quote from: weareros on September 11, 2019, 11:40:46 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 11, 2019, 11:11:53 AM
Interesting from the Tories pollster of choice Lord Ashcroft.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/09/my-northern-ireland-survey-finds-the-union-on-a-knife-edge/

Going by the letter of The GFA, that is the type of poll that should trigger a Border Poll, although if it failed there would not be another for 7 years (not a long wait really). The irony is a backstop that gives north best of both worlds may dampen enthusiasm for UI. You got to think Boris will be delighted with that poll as he has a big stick to beat Arlene and Dodds into submission on top of the imaginary bridge he is going to build for them. But it is not right to preserve a Union that is being held in place by the desires of elderly bigots. It's clear younger people desire Unity and the future should be created for that demographic.

If properly implemented the backstop might give the best of both worlds, but both the unionists and the British government will continue trying to undermine it, so ensuring that it never becomes truly successful. However, The backstop will give time for discussion though, which is needed.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Rossfan

Between the Scots Court and publishing the No Deal Scenario another bad day in Bozostan.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM