Brexit.

[seafoid]

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   Corbyn: The fault lies with the prime minister

rThe fault for not achieving a satisfactory deal lies with Mrs May, says Mr Corbyn. She missed her own deadline to have a deal agreed by October. She suffered the worst defeat by any government in British history. There is then some wrangling over Parliamentary procedure and a number of interventions and points of order, which take some time.Kate Allen an hour agoCorbyn:

Give Parliament time

Labour's amendment calls for Parliament to be given sufficient time to find the best Brexit, Mr Corbyn says. It is clear that this country is not ready to leave on 29 March. Even if the prime minister's deal attained a majority next month, there is no time for primary and secondary legislation including over 600 statutory instruments to clear the House before 29 March.

Protecting jobs and industries requires a customs union, Mr Corbyn says.

Kate Allen an hour agoCorbyn: We cannot wish away Leavers' votesJeremy Corbyn is now responding to Mrs May. He says it is right that MPs should decide the way forward in delivering the referendum result. But MPs must seek to unite people, not to stoke xenophobia and stoke racial divisions. Many communities have been neglected for too long, he says. These are not issues that face Britain alone; they would be recognisable across the world. So the first duty we have is to block a disastrous no-deal and I hope the amendments to that effect will be carried this evening, he says.

[mouview]

Not a good night in the Commons. Cooper's motion defeated, Brady's carried. Brussels won't give her anything more. Talks of Remainers caving in to Brexiteers. Moving inexorably towards no-deal.

[omaghjoe]

Brady passes! by 16 votes  but...... so does Spelman

So what Parliament have said is.... No to a no deal and Yes to a deal without the backstop

Wasn't really expecting that..... looks like the DUP are about to get their way. Except....the EU are going to tell them to go f**k themselves

[trailer]

Incompetence is everywhere.

[Rossfan]

So presumably TM goes to Brussels and says ' we want the Backstop removed" and  she's told to eff off .
Then what?
I presume they hope some of the 27 break ranks ?

[omaghjoe]

Thing is the Brady amendment was open ended. It said "alternative arrangements"

Those alternative arrangements could be anything including staying in the customs union  which is what Theresa will be told when she goes back to Brussels

That's how it managed to get the votes but it doesnt mean anything other than a delaying tactic and to show Tory unity.

[lenny]

Thing is the Brady amendment was open ended. It said "alternative arrangements"

Those alternative arrangements could be anything including staying in the customs union  which is what Theresa will be told when she goes back to Brussels

That's how it managed to get the votes but it doesnt mean anything other than a delaying tactic and to show Tory unity.

The ERG want the hardest possible brexit. They are playing May and the electorate by pretending they will get behind a deal if there are changes to the backstop. They are just delaying and hoping we crash out with no deal.

[Milltown Row2]

Ireland to get shafted by the Tories and the DUP... will end up being a no deal or no back stop with Europe to bend!

[yellowcard]

Theresa May must be among the most rudderless leaders in British political history, she effectively ripped up her own previously negotiated agreement tonight and is prepared to dice with the GFA in order to appease the Brexiteers and the DUP. Spineless.

[Milltown Row2]

Theresa May must be among the most rudderless leaders in British political history, she effectively ripped up her own previously negotiated agreement tonight and is prepared to dice with the GFA in order to appease the Brexiteers and the DUP. Spineless.

Chamberlain surely has to be the most spineless, May a close second

[seafoid]

Not a good night in the Commons. Cooper's motion defeated, Brady's carried. Brussels won't give her anything more. Talks of Remainers caving in to Brexiteers. Moving inexorably towards no-deal.

FT

"A separate amendment by the former Tory minister Dominic Grieve, designed to give MPs the opportunity to back different Brexit options, was rejected by 321 votes to 301. However, another amendment by former Conservative minister Caroline Spelman criticising a no-deal Brexit was approved by 318 votes to 310.

And Galway beat Cavan

The pro Remain crowd will get a vote mid Feb to decide whether or not to extend Article 50

"If the EU continues to hold out against reopening the 585-page treaty, Mrs May will come under pressure from pro-EU MPs in mid-February to stop the clock and seek an extension to the Article 50 divorce process.
Mrs May announced that if she cannot reach a deal with the EU by February 13 — an extremely ambitious timetable — she would allow MPs another vote on the Brexit progress. That is seen as "high noon" for those Tories who want to rule out a no-deal exit"

[imtommygunn]

As has ben obvious all along the DUP could not give one shit about peace and May illustrates she couldn't care less about here.

Imagine they had to renegotiate the GFA with the DUP? What a farce that would be. If they had their way then there'd never have been peace in the first place.

Therealdonald it's very hard to know where to even start with your comments. No one wants the knuckle dragging ways of the past that you do bar an idiotic few.

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/29/after-two-years-of-no-progress-whatsoever-bring-on-plan-c-minus

[seafoid]

As has ben obvious all along the DUP could not give one shit about peace and May illustrates she couldn't care less about here.

Imagine they had to renegotiate the GFA with the DUP? What a farce that would be. If they had their way then there'd never have been peace in the first place.

Therealdonald it's very hard to know where to even start with your comments. No one wants the knuckle dragging ways of the past that you do bar an idiotic few.

The DUP are insane.
When all of this is over people will remember things like "let them go to the chippy"
It's even worse than Paisley because they are holding the UK to ransom


@GuitarMoog

They also forget that the reason it is UK-wide is because May requested it was that rather than NI-only, as she wrongly thought it would placate the DUP and BritNat Tories. Many of EU27 preferred NI-only as they thought it was UK getting Future Relationship concessions easil

Caroline Lucas

@CarolineLucas
"Let them go to the chippy instead" - DUP MPs muttering behind me when @IanBlackfordMP mentioned food prices rising after No Deal #Brexit.

Harry Cole

@MrHarryCole

A senior Cabinet Minister dances through on the way to the voting lobbies... with a playful song to the hacks: "vote, vote whoever you may be, vote vote vote with the DUP"

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/may-must-exploit-chaos-in-brussels-and-dublin-to-get-better-brexit-deal-dups-wilson-37756560.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-foster-s-delight-at-the-saving-of-bombardier-jobs-has-turned-to-indifference-1.3773613?mode=amp

[Hereiam]

This whole sorry episode just reinforces what we already know about the British government. They do not care about the majority of people in the north and I suppose we don't really care for them. The problem is we still pay a portion of our hard earned money to them, and for what. I would love to be able to stop paying my taxes tomorrow as why should we pay for any of this.
The DUP must have been given some major assurances by the Tories as they really are acting the big time charlies, acting the way they are.
I would say they have got the following
- no border poll being called
- No DUP member's will face any further action over RHI
- No Language act
- Projects that they want money for will get priority
- All OO marches will be accommodated by the police

I do think us Nationalist are gona be royally screwed and there nothing we can do about it.