Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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armaghniac

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMHamas has allowed Fatah protest and rallies in Gaza so what you suspect is wrong.

Fair enough, some protest have taken place.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMYes, I doubt very much they like Israelis and especially zionists after 75 years of occupation but that does lead to the points outlined in the graphic.

Let's say that it is easier to go to a mosque in Israel than to a synagogue in Gaza.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMThere is only one side committing a genocide, occupying, expanding settlements, creating an apartheid system and its not the Palestinians.
QuoteThis reflects capacity more than attitude.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

tonto1888

Quote from: armaghniac on April 06, 2024, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMHamas has allowed Fatah protest and rallies in Gaza so what you suspect is wrong.

Fair enough, some protest have taken place.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMYes, I doubt very much they like Israelis and especially zionists after 75 years of occupation but that does lead to the points outlined in the graphic.

Let's say that it is easier to go to a mosque in Israel than to a synagogue in Gaza.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMThere is only one side committing a genocide, occupying, expanding settlements, creating an apartheid system and its not the Palestinians.
QuoteThis reflects capacity more than attitude.


How many Jewish people live in Gaza? How many synagogues are there?

PadraicHenryPearse

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Quote from: armaghniac on April 06, 2024, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMHamas has allowed Fatah protest and rallies in Gaza so what you suspect is wrong.

Fair enough, some protest have taken place.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMYes, I doubt very much they like Israelis and especially zionists after 75 years of occupation but that does lead to the points outlined in the graphic.

Let's say that it is easier to go to a mosque in Israel than to a synagogue in Gaza.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMThere is only one side committing a genocide, occupying, expanding settlements, creating an apartheid system and its not the Palestinians.
QuoteThis reflects capacity more than attitude.


it is not easier for a Palestinan in Gaza to go to a mosque in the west bank though.

I would also point out that jewish cemeteries remained in Gaza and were only destroyed by Israelis in the last  6 months. there are also Jewish people in other Arab countries. there are Christians in Gaza and before 6 months ago over half were already refugees too.

it reflects reality not fantasy and what ifs.. Palestinains are the occupied and Israelis the agressors and the occupier for 75 years.

Palestinians, while having in y opinion justification to want a state on pre or even post 47 borders, they have negotiated and accepted in line with International law the 67 borders, Israel has never accepted this.

Palestinians who can trace  9 generations of their families to Palestine cannot move freely but if you are Jewish from anywhere in the world you have more rights within Israel.





seafoid

Quote from: tonto1888 on April 06, 2024, 09:07:55 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 06, 2024, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMHamas has allowed Fatah protest and rallies in Gaza so what you suspect is wrong.

Fair enough, some protest have taken place.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMYes, I doubt very much they like Israelis and especially zionists after 75 years of occupation but that does lead to the points outlined in the graphic.

Let's say that it is easier to go to a mosque in Israel than to a synagogue in Gaza.

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on April 06, 2024, 06:15:49 PMThere is only one side committing a genocide, occupying, expanding settlements, creating an apartheid system and its not the Palestinians.
QuoteThis reflects capacity more than attitude.


How many Jewish people live in Gaza? How many synagogues are there?
Israel moved every single settler out of Gaza in 2005.
There are no no universities in Gaza and there are no hospitals in Gaza either so synagogues are not really top of the  priority list .


seafoid

One feature of Zionism is gaslighting, ie lying

Here is Melanie Philips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2BzQrce0Mk

Here is David Mencer, Israeli govt spokesman
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1775240996458045671

seafoid

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0412/1443102-harris-spain-palestine/
Taoiseach Simon Harris has said that the point at which Ireland, Spain and other European countries can recognise Palestinian statehood is moving much closer.

It followed a bilateral meeting between Mr Harris and Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez.

93-DY-SAM

Using the same twisted logic that Israel and its enablers have been using that Israel has a right to defend itself - by extension of that does Iran not have the same right?
 

marty34

It's mad, or when you think about it, it's not really, that Israel can attack Iran and then claim if Iran attacks Israel back, it'll be self-defence.

Seems Israel and the US want to get more countres involved in the situation in the Middle East.

Two evil governments.

Rossfan

War Criminal Israeli Government attacks Iranian Consulate murdering a number of officials

Then hoping Iran retaliates and hey presto the Israeli war criminals become the good guys in US circles again.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Milltown Row2

Whatever the background of how's this has come about, Iran and Israel have been 'at war' for many years, so this isn't the first incident between them, this could end in disaster for more that just the Middle East..

The US just want the smallest of opportunities to have a go at Iran, but Iran has multiple problems internally going on.

Expect a shit show soon if it does, it'll certainly put the cost of living crisis to the back pages
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Israel attacked Iran to distract attention from Gaza. Netanyahu is insane.He should be taken out.

Israel is the only Western country where young people are more extremist than their parents.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on April 13, 2024, 02:42:42 PMIsrael attacked Iran to distract attention from Gaza. Netanyahu is insane.He should be taken out.

Israel is the only Western country where young people are more extremist than their parents.

I get ya and this works as a distraction but this shadow war with Iran and Israel has been going on since the 50's..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 13, 2024, 02:42:42 PMIsrael attacked Iran to distract attention from Gaza. Netanyahu is insane.He should be taken out.

Israel is the only Western country where young people are more extremist than their parents.

I get ya and this works as a distraction but this shadow war with Iran and Israel has been going on since the 50's..
Has it? Israel and Iran were allies until 1979.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on April 13, 2024, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 13, 2024, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 13, 2024, 02:42:42 PMIsrael attacked Iran to distract attention from Gaza. Netanyahu is insane.He should be taken out.

Israel is the only Western country where young people are more extremist than their parents.

I get ya and this works as a distraction but this shadow war with Iran and Israel has been going on since the 50's..
Has it? Israel and Iran were allies until 1979.

My mistake I was thinking Iran was part of the The Arab-Israeli War of 1948, was Iraq!

Anyways they have been having a good go at each other for many decades
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea