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johnneycool

Quote from: the Deel Rover on March 03, 2011, 01:36:30 PM
lads can anyone explain the powerplay to me ?

Yeah,
what's that about? Do you get double runs or something?

AZOffaly

Quote from: johnneycool on March 03, 2011, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on March 03, 2011, 01:36:30 PM
lads can anyone explain the powerplay to me ?

Yeah,
what's that about? Do you get double runs or something?
No, it's basically a mechanism that the batters use to try and increase their runs for a period of 5 innings, by forcing the fielding team to put a minimum amount of people in certain positions. Fielding powerplays are where the fielding team can try to put pressure on the batting team, again by positioning of fielders.

I'll get a better definition for ya.

gerrykeegan

For 5 overs the fielding side must have all bar three fielders inside the 30m circle around the wicket. It encourages big hits
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AZOffaly

Powerplay
A limited number of fielders are allowed in outfield during powerplays.Main article: Powerplay (cricket)
The bowling team is subject to fielding restrictions stipulating that nine fielders, including two fielders in catching positions, must be inside the fielding circle for a set number of overs. Traditionally, the fielding restrictions applied for the first 15 overs of each innings.

In a 10 month trial period starting 30 July 2005, the ICC introduced the Powerplays rule as part of a series of new ODI regulations. Under the Powerplays rule, fielding restrictions apply for the first 10 overs, plus two blocks of five overs (called Powerplay Fives). From October 2008 the batting side decides when one of the remaining two blocks occur, the fielding side decides when to begin the other Powerplay. In the first Powerplay, no more than two fielders can be positioned outside 30 yard circle (this is increased to three for the second and third Powerplay blocks). In the first 10 overs, it is also required that at least two fielders are in close catching positions.

The ICC have announced, as of 1 October 2007, with regard to Powerplays, that the captain of the fielding side may elect to position 3 fielders outside the 30 yard circle in one of the two 5-over Powerplays. The rule was first invoked in a match between Sri Lanka and England at Dambulla Stadium on 1 October 2007. Sri Lanka won the match by 119 runs. Currently both 2nd and 3rd powerplay will have 3 fielders outside 30 yard circle, and one powerplay is chosen by batting team.


the Deel Rover

Cheers lads like johhnycool i thougt it might be double runs or something like that .  I think Ireland scored 60 on their powerplay. I thought one of the o'briens was the cut of kevin o'Brien the ex wicklow footballer   
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Main Street

Power play was an old Radio Luxemburg thing.


Billys Boots

QuoteI think Ireland scored 60 on their powerplay.

I think it was actually 72 runs they scored (in 5 overs)!!
My hands are stained with thistle milk ...

AZOffaly

Pakistan are probably going to hold on. Canada are 118/7, but have lost 2 wickets in 2 balls! They have loads of time left (66 runs in 75 balls) but Pakistan are well into the tail now. I don't think Canada can save their wickets. All they need are 1s, but can they do it?

AZOffaly

Now *this* is hyperbole. From Calcutta.

11:45 am It's Not JUST Cricket

To our colonised cousins, it's more important than that:

"Ireland's victory over England in this instant's World Cup game in Bangalore can raise a tumult of emotion, a whoosh of ideas that churn in a post-colonial world, invoking history, politics and sociology — not least because the Irish, colonised first by the British, also inspired the freedom struggle in Bengal and India.

But most of all it is a lesson in life: passion beats powerplay.

"In the club in Delhi where I watched tonight's game, Indians to a man stood as one to watch Ireland's triumph. History played a marginal role. The mood was of empathy for the underdog. One gentleman remarked: "Wow, this is like India beating Pakistan."

"It is much more than that. This wasn't a victory. It was a triumph, an overcoming.

"The Irish have set an example that has been noted in the West for decades. It has taken cricket and the World Cup in India to bring that home.

"The Irish have been better than the English in English. Think James Joyce. Think, in journalism, a hero, the war correspondent Robert Fisk, now the Middle East representative of The Independent, London, who risks the sneers of the elite as he sinks his teeth into the epochal moments in Egypt, Bahrain and Libya even as the Arab world is simmering. Fisk would be hardly the journalist he is today if not for his origins and coming-of-age with the Irish conflict and his time in Dublin.

"One afternoon, in the half-year I spent in Ireland on a fellowship, a tennis ball hoicked from a pitch on the tar road hit a second-floor window sill, ricocheted to a fence and plopped into a football field where University of Ulster students were playing in deep winter.

"The footballers were angry. Cricket, they said, was banned by the Gaelic Sports Council, because it was an English sport.

"In the University of Ulster in Derry/Londonderry, on the edge of the border with the Republic of Ireland, the Catholics were more Irish than the Irish. The cricket gear was gifted to us, a group of South Asians, by the Protestant director of our institute. (Not because she was Protestant but because we were South Asian).

"Tonight, a country half the size of Sri Lanka, the first to be colonised by England, where cricket was banned by hyper-nationalism, has ground to dust its imperialist master.

Two nights back, on the self-same pitch, England and India tied. The hype that has overtaken discourse on the Indian cricket team — a clutch that fields sloppily and bowls waywardly — is like the "India Shining" campaign: full of over-promise and unaudited for under-delivery. Tonight the "Men in Blue" are a memory; it is the "Men in Green" who are the toast. India does not know how much it has to learn from Ireland, on and off the pitch."

Sujun Dutta, The Calcutta Telegraph


Boycey

Afridi might have failed with the bat today but he's certainly pulled it out of fire for Pakistan with his bowling and now that run out.

AZOffaly

Canada collapsed. Yer man Afridi responsible for 6 of the 10 wickets. Canada will be very disappointed to be all out for just 138. Were never really doing enough with the bat.

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Quote from: ziggysego on March 03, 2011, 01:18:06 AM
Typical though, the blueshirts aren't even in office yet, and already we're out-Englishing the English!

A united Ireland "team" @ that  ;)
Time to take a more chill-pill approach to life.

Goldengreen

Nerver though I would be posting in the Cricket thread but there you go. Oh well done to the team. This might interest some of ye  ;D

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/03/03/ireland-beat-england-at-cricket-and-why-donegal-man-says-cricket-is-irish-national-sport/



THE whole nation is celebrating after Ireland beat England in the World Cup....at CRICKET!

But don't be fooled...for cricket is in fact a native Irish sport!

John Devlin is the Head Librarian at Letterkenny IT. Here, in this personal piece for Foinse last year,
he argued that the GAA should embrace cricket as a national sport.....

"Recently a local newspaper  printed an article about some local would-be cricket players
who were unable to find a ground to play a game.
The answer is simple, given that cricket is a traditional Gaelic sport – a local GAA ground.
The GAA was set up to encourage and develop native Irish games and if we exclude athletics which
would be universal the native Irish games are hurling, handball, cricket and croquet.
I will leave aside hurling and handball as their Irishness has been well documented elsewhere and
concentrate on those two other two great games of the Gaels...cricket and croquet.

I will refer you to page 54 of Eoghan Corry's "The GAA Book of Lists" (Hodder Headline Ireland, 2005] and
the chapter headed :"Cricket: the other Gaelic game." In this Corry points out that in 1882 Michael Cusack
wrote "that the game best suited to the Irish character was cricket."
In his "Our Boys " column in "The Shamrock" he declared " that cricket was an Irish game suitable
for young men to play".......and advised readers of the rules of the game how to form a club and
the requite equipment required. He also suggested that the young play childrens' games (ludo as Gaeilge] ,
balloons (self explanatory], and boulders ( possibly road bowls which would now be lethal.......
one would not send a child out on a bike now never mind hurling a boulder down the dual carriageway].

Indeed, the term "All Ireland" is a derivation of the term "All England" as used by organisations as diverse
as tennis ,cricket and lacrosse for their tournaments and the GAA based their All Ireland Championships
on the English County cricket championship dating back to 1864.
This model was easily adopted as cricket was widely played in Ireland (see Bobby Rackard's
autobiography.....the great Wexford hurler started as a cricketer in the cricket hot bed of Wexford] and
cricket was a game of the Irish people in the 1880s until the GAA changed its mind about cherishing the
native games and invented the game of Gaelic (sic.] football , in reality a cross between two English
public school games, Association football and rugby ; and about as relevant to Irish traditional games
as the Corrs are to Irish traditional music.
This cricket, as a game of the common people, continued in rural areas like Lecale into the 1970s with
all classes and creeds competing for the Trades League Cup in the Downpatrick region with teams being
organised on work places as in the Inter Firms road race in Letterkenny or on townlands like Ardmeen.
Indeed, the English even acknowledge cricket as an Irish game . Corry quotes Andrew Laing in his
1912 "Imperial Cricket" that the earliest references to cricket are in the 11th century Irish Annals.
Cuchlainn is described as "defending the hole" in a game variously described as "lub , luban or lubog"
which seems to be a primitive form of cricket without stumps, bails or Henry Blofeld.
However, Laing rather patronisingly ruins his acknowledgement to Irish tradition by condescendingly
writing that although the game was invented in Ireland "it was the genius of England which filled the
hole, added the stumps, and carried the implements to perfection." He might have added a century
later that England would also steal our best players and not play them.

Thus the case is made that the players of this most Gaelic of games should not be begging for somewhere
to play but should be welcomed by the GAA , those self appointed guardians of traditional Irish sport ,
to play on GAA grounds instead of hosting a faux Irish game like Gaelic (sic.] football which is an
invention of the calibre of the Ulster Scots language and invented for the same reason:" We're
different from usuns and we have our own game /language to prove it."
As for croquet the Derry socialist, Civil Rights campaigner , environmentalist, cricket enthusiast
and thorn in the side of pomposity and humbug ,Eamonn McCann , wrote in an "Hot Press" article
that croquet is Irish and that as Gaelic football is "just real football ruined to give it a faux Irish twist"
that Croke Park should be renamed "Croquet Park".
He writes:" Croquet emerged with written rules more than 200 years ago...a lifetime before gaelic
football was invented by priests, alcoholics and Hibernians" and quotes Martin and Williams in their
definitive (I will take Eamonn's word on this] history of the game that British regiments and the
aristocracy took this great old Irish game to England .
McCann quotes the 'revered' croquet historian Dr. Prior , writing in 1872 ,
"that one thing is certain :it is from Ireland that that croquet came to England." It was the Irish
who founded the Wimbledon Croquet and Tennis Club but croquet was soon discarded as the
genteel Irish game was elbowed aside by a brash English riff-raff who preferred to see women
flaunt their ankles and promoted tennis.
Therefore, the Irish gave England Christianity (see Dan Snow and Cormac Bourke on the
BBC's current series on Celtic Christianity ], cricket and croquet and they gave us .....
All Ireland Final Day and the Premier League on SKY.
I think that the point has been made that instead of opening up Croke Park to Association
Football and rugby, Croquet Park should be retained for the real traditional Irish sports of
hurling,handball, cricket and croquet.
Hurling has been let down by the GAA as it thrives competitively at senior level little
beyond Munster and Kilkenny; handball has been sidelined and cricket and croquet
not only ignored but disparaged...and for what ?......a game with a tradition as deep
as the last Westlife  single. It is therefore plain that an indigenous game like cricket should be played on a GAA pitch."


ross4life

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