https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0211/1114542-gaa-announce-record-revenue-of-73-9-million-for-2019/
This is not why the GAA was conceived.
Is it not about time that we all began motioning central council, that the GAA should strive to reduce revenues?
I know of a number of families who used to attend many if not all Tyrone games however have simply stopped going due to the cost.
They would not be well off and a normal 'run of the mill family' but they have said they simply cant sustain the costs of attending.
This should not be what the GAA is about as wobbler said.
And in the piece it mentions things they are spending money on which no doubt means tickets will stay the same at best or increase at worst.
We are simply losing sight of what we are all about - not that anyone in CP gives a flying f**k about it.
Only a matter of time until we are worse than the PL
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.
Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.
The organisation has slowly but surely moved from a community-based sports organisation to an bums-on-seats entertainment industry concern. The paradox is that the trend in the meantime has been for individuals and families to spend their leisure time actually participating in sports instead of sitting watching other people playing. I suspect the long-term business model is bunched.
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.
Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.
Strangely enough GAA wages & salaries have increased by over 8% YOY ???
GPA militant action incoming.
We've all known for some time the GAA is absolutely filthy, cash rich. They are going to have to do something here in an attempt to keep the rank and file 'in order'.
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
Geese and golden eggs come to mind. As for the idea that the GAA is filthy cash rich, it will be until the day the next billion-euro-plus version of Croke Park is needed. And that day is fast approaching. Liam Mulvihill said in the 1990s that the new stadium would have an average expected useful life of 35 years. The Cusack Stand is 25 years into that cycle. The bums-on-seats stadium industry has its limits.
Quote from: thewobbler on February 11, 2020, 01:27:03 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0211/1114542-gaa-announce-record-revenue-of-73-9-million-for-2019/
This is not why the GAA was conceived.
Is it not about time that we all began motioning central council, that the GAA should strive to reduce revenues?
The GAA is financialised so it's run in the interest of finance.
Where did it all go wrong?
Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2020, 02:52:00 PM
The GAA is financialised so it's run in the interest of finance.
Where did it all go wrong?
When its main asset/liability is a stadium that will cost a billion to replace.
In retrospect, the GAA should have pleaded poverty in the 1990s and got Bertie to build his Bowl.
Quote from: five points on February 11, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Geese and golden eggs come to mind. As for the idea that the GAA is filthy cash rich, it will be until the day the next billion-euro-plus version of Croke Park is needed. And that day is fast approaching. Liam Mulvihill said in the 1990s that the new stadium would have an average expected useful life of 35 years. The Cusack Stand is 25 years into that cycle. The bums-on-seats stadium industry has its limits.
Duno bout this, Croke Park is only filled maybe 3 times a year? (For GAA).
Think they'll go down the road of regional development. Maybe throw cash at other counties as a way of suppressing the 'Dublin Problem'.
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:24:20 PM
GPA militant action incoming.
We've all known for some time the GAA is absolutely filthy, cash rich. They are going to have to do something here in an attempt to keep the rank and file 'in order'.
". . . a number of projects in the pipeline including a new GAA/GPA agreement. . ."
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Quote from: square_ball on February 11, 2020, 03:00:07 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:24:20 PM
GPA militant action incoming.
We've all known for some time the GAA is absolutely filthy, cash rich. They are going to have to do something here in an attempt to keep the rank and file 'in order'.
". . . a number of projects in the pipeline including a new GAA/GPA agreement. . ."
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Expect them to throw plenty of €€€€ at the GPA in the hope this will appeal the masses.
As someone has said only a boycott by the people who actually help fund the association will make any difference and unfortunately I cant see that happening.
It will become a middle class sport when enough of the grassroots get pissed off
All that money at HQ yet there is still a number of counties all outside division 1 that are breaking their backs with their fundraising just to keep their heads above water.
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 11, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
All that money at HQ yet there is still a number of counties all outside division 1 that are breaking their backs with their fundraising just to keep their heads above water.
Counties are spending far too much on their county teams even those in Div 4.
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 11, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on February 11, 2020, 03:05:45 PM
All that money at HQ yet there is still a number of counties all outside division 1 that are breaking their backs with their fundraising just to keep their heads above water.
Counties are spending far too much on their county teams even those in Div 4.
It's the cost to compete nowadays.
the GAA has a great 'product'
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.
Is it any wonder I take a drink?
Quote from: thewobbler on February 11, 2020, 01:27:03 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/0211/1114542-gaa-announce-record-revenue-of-73-9-million-for-2019/
This is not why the GAA was conceived.
Is it not about time that we all began motioning central council, that the GAA should strive to reduce revenues?
Why was it conceived then? Would you prefer it if the association ran at a loss?
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
Guess.
Quote from: Taylor on February 11, 2020, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.
Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.
Strangely enough GAA wages & salaries have increased by over 8% YOY ???
How many people are employed full time by Croke Park? There'd be more people working in a supermarket.
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.
Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.
Oh please. You make it sound like there's a board of directors getting million Euro bonuses. Once overheads are paid, the rest of the revenue is reinvested back into the counties and the clubs. They're also open about their finances. The annual report is published on the GAA's website every year. You can go and read it right now.
If you read Mike Moynihan's book GAAconomics you'll see how the GAA does things that no other sports organization does, like playing All-Ireland final games at lower grades in Croke Park even though a tiny crowd shows up to watch. Those events run at a loss, but they do it for social reasons because of the honour of playing in Croke Parl.
"Grab All Association" my ass. Save your outrage for the GPA. They're the boys who go around openly bragging about the millions of dollars they're going to raise with their smash-and-grab trips to the US.
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: five points on February 11, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Geese and golden eggs come to mind. As for the idea that the GAA is filthy cash rich, it will be until the day the next billion-euro-plus version of Croke Park is needed. And that day is fast approaching. Liam Mulvihill said in the 1990s that the new stadium would have an average expected useful life of 35 years. The Cusack Stand is 25 years into that cycle. The bums-on-seats stadium industry has its limits.
Duno bout this, Croke Park is only filled maybe 3 times a year? (For GAA).
Think they'll go down the road of regional development. Maybe throw cash at other counties as a way of suppressing the 'Dublin Problem'.
Didn't read the entire article but what is the profit margin?
It's great having big revenues but if it's being spunked out the back door then that's a different set of questions that need to be asked.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
Guess.
Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Taylor on February 11, 2020, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.
Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.
Strangely enough GAA wages & salaries have increased by over 8% YOY ???
How many people are employed full time by Croke Park? There'd be more people working in a supermarket.
Brave supermarket paying out over €5m a year
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.
I'd think the real story of the GAA (football) in recent years is one of seeing routinely empty stadiums on TV, and don't forget it's only the big games that make it on TV.
Revenue might be increasing, but if footfall is dropping, then you have to question the strategy. These games can not expand internationally to replace the void. It has to come from within.
They may blame Dublin's dominance. They may blame football tactics. They may be right too. But combining extra county games with an aggressive pricing strategy, against this backdrop, well there's the main story as far as I'm concerned.
And once someone gets away from the habit of forking out £25 to watch a county team, it's a remarkably difficult habit to pick up again.
Which of course leads players to question why they train all winter long; to play in largely empty, soulless championship matches, where the result often is an irrelevance, as both sides go through, or sometimes one is just happy to end their season. And the more who question it, the more who'll step away. Which in turn leads to smaller crowds, and more players stepping away.
That's the circle of descent.
We are on it.
But revenue is up.
f**k revenue.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 11, 2020, 04:31:04 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: five points on February 11, 2020, 02:49:51 PM
Geese and golden eggs come to mind. As for the idea that the GAA is filthy cash rich, it will be until the day the next billion-euro-plus version of Croke Park is needed. And that day is fast approaching. Liam Mulvihill said in the 1990s that the new stadium would have an average expected useful life of 35 years. The Cusack Stand is 25 years into that cycle. The bums-on-seats stadium industry has its limits.
Duno bout this, Croke Park is only filled maybe 3 times a year? (For GAA).
Think they'll go down the road of regional development. Maybe throw cash at other counties as a way of suppressing the 'Dublin Problem'.
Didn't read the entire article but what is the profit margin?
It's great having big revenues but if it's being spunked out the back door then that's a different set of questions that need to be asked.
"Spunked out the back door?" What does this mean?
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
Guess.
Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though
As stated in black and white, I would imagine it's for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown."
Quote from: thewobbler on February 11, 2020, 05:36:12 PM
I'd think the real story of the GAA (football) in recent years is one of seeing routinely empty stadiums on TV, and don't forget it's only the big games that make it on TV.
Revenue might be increasing, but if footfall is dropping, then you have to question the strategy. These games can not expand internationally to replace the void. It has to come from within.
They may blame Dublin's dominance. They may blame football tactics. They may be right too. But combining extra county games with an aggressive pricing strategy, against this backdrop, well there's the main story as far as I'm concerned.
And once someone gets away from the habit of forking out £25 to watch a county team, it's a remarkably difficult habit to pick up again.
Which of course leads players to question why they train all winter long; to play in largely empty, soulless championship matches, where the result often is an irrelevance, as both sides go through, or sometimes one is just happy to end their season. And the more who question it, the more who'll step away. Which in turn leads to smaller crowds, and more players stepping away.
That's the circle of descent.
We are on it.
But revenue is up.
f**k revenue.
Too many games on TV, if you ask me.
We've a long way to fall yet, they were talking today on Talk Sport about Premier League teams charging families £750 so their child could be a mascot on match day. Thought that stank to high heaven.
I don't have a big problem with GAa making a profit - just re-invest it wisely, preferably at club level. There would be massive demand for a simple grant process for 10-20k improvement projects.
The bigger picture is full of problems. For example here in Ulster there are plenty of staff on the payroll but the end product very often (not always) is literally sickening it's so negative.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
Guess.
Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though
As stated in black and white, I would imagine it's for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown."
I see. Again, invaluable insight, thanks.
Anyone actually know what that development is for?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 01:41:05 PM
GAA HQ turning into Sepp and his FIFA buddies.
Nothings going to change unless there's a mass boycott of games. Won't happen though.
Oh please. You make it sound like there's a board of directors getting million Euro bonuses. Once overheads are paid, the rest of the revenue is reinvested back into the counties and the clubs. They're also open about their finances. The annual report is published on the GAA's website every year. You can go and read it right now.
If you read Mike Moynihan's book GAAconomics you'll see how the GAA does things that no other sports organization does, like playing All-Ireland final games at lower grades in Croke Park even though a tiny crowd shows up to watch. Those events run at a loss, but they do it for social reasons because of the honour of playing in Croke Parl.
"Grab All Association" my ass. Save your outrage for the GPA. They're the boys who go around openly bragging about the millions of dollars they're going to raise with their smash-and-grab trips to the US.
My issue is, like FIFA, the GAA are becoming more distanced from the average fan. Big money Sky deals, super 8, tier 2, ticket prices etc. Their policies are clearly having an affect, as attendances are down, less people able to watch games etc, but HQ will continue to peddle the "everything's great" bullshit.
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2020, 05:09:43 PM
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.
Very much so
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2020, 05:09:43 PM
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.
Very much so
47K at a Leinster final between Meath and Dublin.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/martin-breheny-breaks-down-the-attendance-figures-so-far-in-this-years-football-and-hurling-championships-38214895.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/martin-breheny-breaks-down-the-attendance-figures-so-far-in-this-years-football-and-hurling-championships-38214895.html)
Attendances are generally down but revenue is up.
Which means the game is becoming more about the people that can afford to go to games.
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020? Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?
I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.
Quote from: marty34 on February 11, 2020, 09:09:14 PM
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020? Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?
I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.
U2 and Westlife busy.
Quote from: BennyCake on February 11, 2020, 07:15:43 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 11, 2020, 05:09:43 PM
Figures are up because of Mayo Making the Super 8's and making it to semi-final stage. As well as an All Ireland Football final replay. The Hurling continues to be a success and is a real competition among the Elite of that sport. This is what the Corporate GAA hopes to have with the football tier system. The real story of the summer was 30k odd that attended Tyrone/Kerry Semi-final.
Very much so
Now we know Martin Carney's username ;D
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.
Is it any wonder I take a drink?
100% every Club in the country benefits through Club Development Grants, seriously well run organization.
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:23:54 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
Guess.
Eh, I don't know. That's why I asked. Thanks for your input though
As stated in black and white, I would imagine it's for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown."
I see. Again, invaluable insight, thanks.
Anyone actually know what that development is for?
I would imagine the Dubs??
Quote from: marty34 on February 11, 2020, 09:09:14 PM
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020? Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?
I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.
Euro 2020
QuotePeter McKenna revealed that Croke Park seems set not to host any major concerts this summer with the new multi-country hosting model for Euro 2020 acting as a barrier for acts who would embark on European tours.
"The bands are not travelling," remarked the stadium's director.
"The big touring caravans as they were are not doing Europe because the 2020 Euros have sucked up so many cities. I mean it's not just in one venue, it's in 20 or 12 different cities. So that has taken the value of a European tour off of big bands."
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 12, 2020, 03:27:59 AM
Quote from: marty34 on February 11, 2020, 09:09:14 PM
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020? Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?
I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.
Euro 2020
QuotePeter McKenna revealed that Croke Park seems set not to host any major concerts this summer with the new multi-country hosting model for Euro 2020 acting as a barrier for acts who would embark on European tours.
"The bands are not travelling," remarked the stadium's director.
"The big touring caravans as they were are not doing Europe because the 2020 Euros have sucked up so many cities. I mean it's not just in one venue, it's in 20 or 12 different cities. So that has taken the value of a European tour off of big bands."
Nathan Carter could fit in a Drumcondra date on his current Irish tour.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 12, 2020, 03:27:59 AM
Quote from: marty34 on February 11, 2020, 09:09:14 PM
It says that there'll be no concerts in CP this year, 2020? Anybody know why- is there no big gigs in town over the summer or is there a 'gap year' for the residents?
I thought the GAA would be mad to get their 3 concerts a year to boost the profits.
Euro 2020
QuotePeter McKenna revealed that Croke Park seems set not to host any major concerts this summer with the new multi-country hosting model for Euro 2020 acting as a barrier for acts who would embark on European tours.
"The bands are not travelling," remarked the stadium's director.
"The big touring caravans as they were are not doing Europe because the 2020 Euros have sucked up so many cities. I mean it's not just in one venue, it's in 20 or 12 different cities. So that has taken the value of a European tour off of big bands."
Thanks GH.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on February 11, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.
Is it any wonder I take a drink?
100% every Club in the country benefits through Club Development Grants, seriously well run organization.
not every club gets grants
not every county gets funding for their infrastructure
a lot of counties are spending money in order to be competitive with Dublin and Kerry
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 12, 2020, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on February 11, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.
Is it any wonder I take a drink?
100% every Club in the country benefits through Club Development Grants, seriously well run organization.
not every club gets grants
not every county gets funding for their infrastructure
a lot of counties are spending money in order to be competitive with Dublin and Kerry
Don't know where your from but always found Croke Park, Leinster Council & Laois (County helps with applications) excellent when we have applied for development grants.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on February 12, 2020, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on February 11, 2020, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 11, 2020, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 11, 2020, 03:29:19 PM
Jases ye're some crowd of feckin whingers!!!
Could not agree more. If the GAA were losing money hand over fist they'd be on here complaining about incompetent management. Instead it's raking in the money, most of which is redistributed to the counties and clubs, and they're whinging about that.
Is it any wonder I take a drink?
100% every Club in the country benefits through Club Development Grants, seriously well run organization.
not every club gets grants
not every county gets funding for their infrastructure
a lot of counties are spending money in order to be competitive with Dublin and Kerry
Do you have an example of an county that doesn't get funding for their infrastructure?
Quote from: screenexile on February 12, 2020, 12:37:47 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
I would imagine the Dubs??
Do they not already use Abbotstown? Or is that at capacity? I rarely hear of anything being on there (although presumably someone uses them?)
From OTB website, there's also this quote
Quote"Clubs, schools and county teams locally and from all over the country," encompasses those who Ryan can foresee using the facilities. "The demand for Abbotstown is such that I expect the Clonliffe pitches to be continually in use."
I'm not sure how much use clubs from around the country will use these facilities. Handy I guess for the local clubs to have the use of such facilities nearby without having to build them
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 12, 2020, 12:37:47 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
I would imagine the Dubs??
Do they not already use Abbotstown? Or is that at capacity? I rarely hear of anything being on there (although presumably someone uses them?)
From OTB website, there's also this quote
Quote"Clubs, schools and county teams locally and from all over the country," encompasses those who Ryan can foresee using the facilities. "The demand for Abbotstown is such that I expect the Clonliffe pitches to be continually in use."
I'm not sure how much use clubs from around the country will use these facilities. Handy I guess for the local clubs to have the use of such facilities nearby without having to build them
it couls be to support the games in the inner city . I read some where that in the last 50 years only 2 players from the inner city have played for Dublin, not sure if its much different at under age level?
Also the are loads of schools in and about there .
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-warns-spending-caps-may-be-needed-to-tackle-30m-inter-county-costs-1.4170712
The combined cost of preparing and fielding senior inter-county teams for the 32 counties came to €29.74 million in 2019. This was an increase of 11.6 per cent over the previous year, a trend that simply cannot continue.
Quote from: rosnarun on February 12, 2020, 11:35:33 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 12, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 12, 2020, 12:37:47 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 02:48:58 PM
QuoteOther development projects cited include the acquisition of the 31.8 acre property of Cloniffe College adjacent to Croke Park, a deal which concluded after the year's end, with plans for two full-sized pitches, club house and dressing rooms and planned usage "similar to Abbotstown
What's this development for?
I would imagine the Dubs??
Do they not already use Abbotstown? Or is that at capacity? I rarely hear of anything being on there (although presumably someone uses them?)
From OTB website, there's also this quote
Quote"Clubs, schools and county teams locally and from all over the country," encompasses those who Ryan can foresee using the facilities. "The demand for Abbotstown is such that I expect the Clonliffe pitches to be continually in use."
I'm not sure how much use clubs from around the country will use these facilities. Handy I guess for the local clubs to have the use of such facilities nearby without having to build them
it couls be to support the games in the inner city . I read some where that in the last 50 years only 2 players from the inner city have played for Dublin, not sure if its much different at under age level?
Also the are loads of schools in and about there .
Isn't that the responsibility of Dublin GAA rather than HQ?
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2020, 11:36:22 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-warns-spending-caps-may-be-needed-to-tackle-30m-inter-county-costs-1.4170712
The combined cost of preparing and fielding senior inter-county teams for the 32 counties came to €29.74 million in 2019. This was an increase of 11.6 per cent over the previous year, a trend that simply cannot continue.
Does anyone have the split by county ?
Add the cost of (outside) funding of managers not to mention another €20m (prob conservative estimate) for club managers.....
Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2020, 11:36:22 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-warns-spending-caps-may-be-needed-to-tackle-30m-inter-county-costs-1.4170712
The combined cost of preparing and fielding senior inter-county teams for the 32 counties came to €29.74 million in 2019. This was an increase of 11.6 per cent over the previous year, a trend that simply cannot continue.
Why ? do you not think the GAA can continue to grow and attract more funding. I would expect that figure to grow esp in middling performing counties to try and catch up with the high performing counties
They've paid 95m euro's for the land, they must be very confident of making a profit when selling a lot of the land to developers to pay that for it.