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The North East 200
« on: December 11, 2017, 05:56:16 PM »
What do you make of the 200 Northern signatories to the letter to Leo Varadkar asking him to stand up for the rights of Irish Citizens in the North? I am totally confused I have to say.

I thought Sinn Fein were more than capable of lobbying on behalf of Northern nationalists,uniquely with members elected to Stormont,The Dail and Westminster.

Secondly there is a portion in the letter referring to the denial of "human rights" here which are "enjoyed" in all other parts of these islands.This is an obvious reference to allowing gay marriage and relaxing strict abortion legislation,in the North.Does this mean the two prominent priests that have signed this letter,Fr Joe Mc Veigh and Fr Gary Donegal support the introduction of gay marriage and a relaxation of abortion laws here???

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 06:02:56 PM »
Oh, I thought this was about bikes.

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2017, 06:09:56 PM »
So did I.  Leo is an elected member of a Government or  a governing maybe?
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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2017, 06:32:50 PM »


Secondly there is a portion in the letter referring to the denial of "human rights" here which are "enjoyed" in all other parts of these islands.This is an obvious reference to allowing gay marriage and relaxing strict abortion legislation,in the North.Does this mean the two prominent priests that have signed this letter,Fr Joe Mc Veigh and Fr Gary Donegal support the introduction of gay marriage and a relaxation of abortion laws here???
All parts of these uplands presumably includes the 26 Cos which  limits abortion too.
So it seems it's same sex marriage they refer to.
Nothing wrong with 2 priests supporting civil rights.
And before you say sex between people of the same sex is immoral - that would be going on marriage or no marriage.
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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 06:52:51 PM »
Last time I checked catholic teaching regards homosexuality as sinful,and the Church opposes gay marriage and any amendment to current abortion legislation as it applies in the North

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2017, 07:10:53 PM »
This was the best piece of news that I have heard in years. Finally, the Dublin government are going to stand up and look after the rights of northern nationalists who have been annexed in the occupied six.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42306297

Leo's acknowledgment is at the very least comforting, considering the remarks of certain west brits on this here message board.
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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2017, 07:22:12 PM »
Last time I checked catholic teaching regards homosexuality as sinful,and the Church opposes gay marriage and any amendment to current abortion legislation as it applies in the North
Civil marriage laws are Ceaser's business.
Gay people have sex married or not - so the Church can preach against homosexual sex -as opposed to homosexuality which is a natural situation as some people are that way by nature.
If we're all created by God -then He must be happy to have some people homosexual.
Never came across Jesus saying anything against homosexuality  or homosexuals in the Gospels. 

PS-- Does calling them the "North east 200" mean you've  given up on "northernirishness"?😆
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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2017, 07:33:44 PM »
Last time I checked catholic teaching regards homosexuality as sinful,and the Church opposes gay marriage and any amendment to current abortion legislation as it applies in the North

Catholic teaching would be wrong

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2017, 07:34:20 PM »
Last time I checked catholic teaching regards homosexuality as sinful,and the Church opposes gay marriage and any amendment to current abortion legislation as it applies in the North
Civil marriage laws are Ceaser's business.
Gay people have sex married or not - so the Church can preach against homosexual sex -as opposed to homosexuality which is a natural situation as some people are that way by nature.
If we're all created by God -then He must be happy to have some people homosexual.
Never came across Jesus saying anything against homosexuality  or homosexuals in the Gospels. 

PS-- Does calling them the "North east 200" mean you've  given up on "northernirishness"?
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I think the events of the last fortnight have shaken things up enough that his WUMming would be too obvious to keep going down that track for the time being.

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2017, 07:43:28 PM »
Last time I checked catholic teaching regards homosexuality as sinful,and the Church opposes gay marriage and any amendment to current abortion legislation as it applies in the North
Civil marriage laws are Ceaser's business.
Gay people have sex married or not - so the Church can preach against homosexual sex -as opposed to homosexuality which is a natural situation as some people are that way by nature.
If we're all created by God -then He must be happy to have some people homosexual.
Never came across Jesus saying anything against homosexuality  or homosexuals in the Gospels. 

PS-- Does calling them the "North east 200" mean you've  given up on "northernirishness"?
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I think the events of the last fortnight have shaken things up enough that his WUMming would be too obvious to keep going down that track for the time being.

It’s always been obvious.

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 02:54:28 PM »
Not too sure what to make of this. Who compiled the list? What's the criteria? What's the point? How many GAAboarders? How many signatories does Tony have a selfie with?

   
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  Appeal to taoiseach: List of signatories

    Academia
    Prof Bill Rolston, Antrim
    Prof Patricia Lundy, Antrim
    Prof Mark McGovern, Derry
    Dr Michael Pierse, Antrim
    Prof Phil Scraton, Antrim
    Prof Colin Harvey, Derry
    An Ghaeilge
    Aisling NÍ Labhraí, Antrim
    Dr Feargal Mac Ionnrachtaigh, Antrim
    Dr Antaine Ó Donnaile, Armagh
    Ciarán Ó Pronntaigh, Antrim
    Ciarain Mac Cearáin, Derry
    Ciarán Mac Giolla Bhéin, Antrim
    Niall Ó Catháin, Derry
    Éilís Ní Chaiside, Derry
    Dr Pádraig Ó Tiarnaigh, Down
    Arts
    Michele Devlin, Down
    Eibhlin Ní Dhochartaigh, Derry
    Conor Caldwell, Antrim
    Rónan Bennett, Antrim
    Dr Brian Ferran, Antrim
    Ray Giffen, Down
    John McSherry, Antrim
    Eamonn Murray, Antrim
    Barry Kerr, Antrim
    Tony Devlin, Antrim
    Terry George, Down
    Pearse Elliott, Antrim
    Seamie O’Neill, Antrim
    Oorlagh George, Down
    JB Vallely, Armagh
    Donal O’Connor, Down
    Malachi Cush, Tyrone
    Business
    James Conlon, Tyrone
    Ciarán Mackel, Down
    Eamon Blaney, Down
    Christine Jones, Down
    Stephen Thompson, Antrim
    Shaun McElhinney, Derry
    Seamus Ó hAodha, Down
    Johnny Kelly, Tyrone
    Brian McGirr, Tyrone
    Chris Conwell, Fermanagh
    Eamon Fitzpatrick, Fermanagh
    Gerry Hicks, Fermanagh
    Martin Carey, Fermanagh
    Mary Connolly, Fermanagh
    Sheamus Cosgrove, Fermanagh
    Thomas McAloon, Fermanagh
    Patrick Magee, Antrim
    Ciaran McCavana, Antrim
    Dougie Adams, Antrim
    Peter Curistan, Antrim
    Jane Adams, Antrim
    Sean Napier, Antrim
    Brian O’Neill, Derry
    John McGowan, Derry
    Gareth Creaney, Antrim
    Frank Cullen, Antrim
    Gerard de Brún, Antrim
    Rosemary McKenna, Antrim
    Andy McCallin, Antrim
    Jim Conlon, Antrim
    Peter Quinn, Fermanagh
    Seamus McMullan, Antrim
    Tony Shivers, Antrim
    Dominic Kearns, Antrim
    Cathal McAteer, Antrim
    James Thornton, Antrim
    Leo Carey, Antrim
    Gerry O’Reilly, Armagh
    Bernard Boyle, Armagh
    Anthony Havern, Armagh
    Pat McCorley, Antrim
    James Toal, Antrim
    Charlie Keenan, Antrim
    Thomas McStocker, Antrim
    Jim Clinton, Antrim
    Gerry Carlile, Antrim
    Damien Brown, Derry
    Kieran Kennedy, Tyrone
    Community
    Fr Joe McVeigh, Fermanagh
    Aodhán Harkin, Tyrone
    Joe Duffy, Armagh
    Ciarán Mac Airt, Antrim
    Marie Quiery, Down
    Annie Armstrong, Antrim
    Harry Connolly, Antrim
    Kevin Gamble, Antrim
    Pilib Ó Ruanaí, Down
    Seamus de Leaduis, Fermanagh
    Oliver McCaffrey, Fermanagh
    Frank Liddy, Antrim
    Conal McDevitt, Derry
    Alison O Neill, Antrim
    John Kelly, Derry
    Conal McFeely, Derry
    Seamas Heaney, Derry
    Ciara Ferguson, Derry
    Davy Cunningham, Down
    Conor Murray, Derry
    Michelle Kelly, Antrim
    Elizabeth McStocker, Antrim
    Peter Bunting, Down
    Andrée Murphy, Antrim
    Mark Thompson, Antrim
    Clara Reilly, Antrim
    Fr Gary Donegan, Fermanagh
    Eugene Reavey, Armagh
    Gerard Rice, Antrim
    Damien Lindsay, Antrim
    Angela Hegarty, Derry
    Paul O’Connor, Derry
    Tish Holland, Antrim
    Education
    Bernard O’Connor, Fermanagh
    Lorette Gleeson, Fermanagh
    Seamus Ó Tuama, Antrim
    Mairead Ní Chonghaile, Antrim
    Gearoid MacRoibeaird, Antrim
    Marie McBride, Antrim
    Caireann Uí Mhuireagáin, Antrim
    Liam Ó Flannagáin, Derry
    Padraig Mac an tSaoir, Antrim
    Máire Darragh, Antrim
    Health
    Dr Peter Murphy, Antrim
    Dr John McSparran, Antrim
    Dr Brendan McDonald, Tyrone
    Law
    Pat Fahy, Tyrone
    Peter Madden, Antrim
    Padraig Ó Muirigh, Antrim
    Adrian O Kane, Tyrone
    Michael Fahy, Tyrone
    Des Fahy BL, Tyrone
    Colin Gervin BL, Tyrone
    Frank McManus, Fermanagh
    Anna McHugh BL, Tyrone
    Ciaran Toner, Antrim
    Michael Crawford, Antrim
    Niall Murphy, Antrim
    John Finucane, Antrim
    Caitlin Bunting, Antrim
    Rosie Kinnear, Antrim
    Eamon McLaughlin, Antrim
    Sean G Doherty BL, Derry
    Darragh Mackin, Antrim
    Martin Durkan, Down
    Paul Foster BL, Derry
    Blaine Nugent BL, Tyrone
    Michelle McDonnell, Tyrone
    Sinead Larkin, Armagh
    Ciaran Roddy BL, Derry
    Brian G McCartney QC SC, Antrim
    Patricia Coyle, Derry
    Claire McKeegan, Antrim
    Peter Corrigan, Tyrone
    Katie Dowling, Antrim
    Marie Hans, Tyrone
    Neil Fox BL, Antrim
    Pearse McDermott, Derry
    Paddy McDermott, Derry
    Chris McCann, Antrim
    John Keown, Down
    Joe McVeigh, Antrim
    Kevin Winters, Down
    Anna Nugent, Down
    Paul Pierce, Antrim
    Sean Pol Begley, Tyrone
    Media
    Maria McCourt, Antrim
    Patricia McBride, Derry
    Brian Feeney, Antrim
    Colm Dore, Antrim
    Dr Jude Collins, Antrim
    Martin Shannon, Fermanagh
    Robin Livingstone, Antrim
    Barry McCaffrey, Antrim
    Sonia Nic Giolla Easpaig, Derry
    Sports
    Peter Canavan, Tyrone
    Tommy Shaw, Antrim
    Kieran McKeever, Derry
    Tony Scullion, Derry
    Paddy Bradley, Derry
    Ciaran McLaughlin, Tyrone
    Conor Gormley, Tyrone
    Eamon Lindsay, Tyrone
    John Lynch, Tyrone
    Paddy Cunningham, Antrim
    Patrick McBride, Antrim
    Ronan McNamee, Tyrone
    Neil McManus, Antrim
    Terence ‘Sambo’ McNaughton, Antrim
    Tommy Quinn, Antrim
    Gary “Pappy” O’Kane, Antrim
    Gregory O’Kane, Antrim
    Mark Carey, Antrim
    Ross Carr, Down
    Conor Laverty, Down
    Chrissy McKaigue, Derry
    Kevin Madden, Antrim
    James McClean, Derry
    Michael McCann, Antrim
    Justin Crozier, Antrim
    Cathy Rooney, Antrim
    Paddy Barnes, Antrim
    Michael Conlan, Antrim
    Jamie Conlan, Antrim
    Aoife Ní Chasaide, Derry
    Shannon Lynch, Tyrone
    Benny Tierney, Armagh
    Enda McNulty, Armagh
    Paddy Bradley, Derry
    Ciaran McKeever, Armagh
    Danny Hughes, Down
    Joe Kernan, Armagh
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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 02:57:18 PM »
None of the signees are doing too badly .

They could better channel their energies to homelessness ,  health service , unemployment and other social ills

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2017, 03:13:11 PM »
None of the signees are doing too badly .

They could better channel their energies to homelessness ,  health service , unemployment and other social ills

So that means they shouldn't care about identity, equality etc?  Quite a few of them provide significant employment in the north.

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2017, 03:27:42 PM »
Relax folks.

Malachi Cush & Danny Hughes have got this.

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Re: The North East 200
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2017, 03:29:53 PM »
Good Nationalist he is Paddy Bradley has signed it twice!!