Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes

Started by Orior, November 22, 2017, 08:13:55 PM

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johnneycool

Quote from: Minder on November 23, 2017, 12:13:48 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on November 23, 2017, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
There's another very important aspect to be considered - SF need to keep their grassroots onside. It isn't in anyone's interest for grumblings to start about them abandoning the struggle, and the potential for havoc that perceived vacuum would have.

Err, you're talking about the party that isn't even bothering it's hole negotiating an agreement to resume power-sharing and brought it down in the first place? SF are chaos.

Err, it was brought down due to DUP arrogance around the Irish language act and the wood pellet scandal of which they haven't budged an inch on either, SF are right on this one.
Don't even mention Mr Girvan and his Orange hall grants.

No equality, no Assembly is a reasonable stance IMO.


SF has no interest in an ILA until the last few months. Signed up for programme for government after programme for government without a mention.

Agreed, but it was the test the DUP failed in terms of equality and as agreed by all parties at St Andrews irrespective of what the DUP say that they didn't agree to it.

HiMucker

Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
There's another very important aspect to be considered - SF need to keep their grassroots onside. It isn't in anyone's interest for grumblings to start about them abandoning the struggle, and the potential for havoc that perceived vacuum would have.

Err, you're talking about the party that isn't even bothering it's hole negotiating an agreement to resume power-sharing and brought it down in the first place? SF are chaos.
Really?  Negotiate what exactly?  The vast majority of nationalist do not want Sinn Fein to resume power sharing as it was before.  Those same nationalists ie their voters,wanted them to bring it down. 

AQMP

Quote from: HiMucker on November 23, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
There's another very important aspect to be considered - SF need to keep their grassroots onside. It isn't in anyone's interest for grumblings to start about them abandoning the struggle, and the potential for havoc that perceived vacuum would have.

Err, you're talking about the party that isn't even bothering it's hole negotiating an agreement to resume power-sharing and brought it down in the first place? SF are chaos.
Really?  Negotiate what exactly?  The vast majority of nationalist do not want Sinn Fein to resume power sharing as it was before.  Those same nationalists ie their voters,wanted them to bring it down.

This is more or less it.  Power sharing is over.  It doesn't work. The GFA is a busted flush.  Adams got one thing right.  It's the equality agenda Unionists can't handle, though he used a different turn of phrase!

Syferus

Any Sinners even suggesting power-sharing is done when the DUP have May over a barrel in Westminster and benefit greatly from direct rule are akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The north is a bizarro world where common sense has always been in short supply on both sides.

BennyCake

Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Any Sinners even suggesting power-sharing is done when the DUP have May over a barrel in Westminster and benefit greatly from direct rule are akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The north is a bizarro world where common sense has always been in short supply on both sides.

Speaking common sense up here has been outlawed by Stormont. Ironically, it was the only thing they ever agreed on. Along with a pay rise.

AQMP

Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Any Sinners even suggesting power-sharing is done when the DUP have May over a barrel in Westminster and benefit greatly from direct rule are akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The north is a bizarro world where common sense has always been in short supply on both sides.

The Tories will eventually tire of the unionists and shaft them.  They always do.


foxcommander

Quote from: NAG1 on November 23, 2017, 12:11:11 PM
Lads he is being a WUM on this thread. He has no clue what he is talking about on this.

Do you mean Outinfront or Syferus?
The latter isn't a wind-up merchant, he is just ignorant of the facts. And he's a Fine Gaeler which means he's got some media-guided bitter twisted hatred of the north and the people left behind by the free state government.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

trueblue1234

Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Any Sinners even suggesting power-sharing is done when the DUP have May over a barrel in Westminster and benefit greatly from direct rule are akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The north is a bizarro world where common sense has always been in short supply on both sides.

It's more a case of your lack of understanding on most things rather than a shortage of common sense by the masses. You've proved it numerous times on this board that you post on things you don't understand or have basically gotten wrong. You certainly don't believe it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

foxcommander

Quote from: trueblue1234 on November 23, 2017, 01:54:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Any Sinners even suggesting power-sharing is done when the DUP have May over a barrel in Westminster and benefit greatly from direct rule are akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The north is a bizarro world where common sense has always been in short supply on both sides.

It's more a case of your lack of understanding on most things rather than a shortage of common sense by the masses. You've proved it numerous times on this board that you post on things you don't understand or have basically gotten wrong. You certainly don't believe it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

+1
not the first time he's shown himself up as a gombeen.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

NAG1

Quote from: foxcommander on November 23, 2017, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 23, 2017, 12:11:11 PM
Lads he is being a WUM on this thread. He has no clue what he is talking about on this.

Do you mean Outinfront or Syferus?
The latter isn't a wind-up merchant, he is just ignorant of the facts. And he's a Fine Gaeler which means he's got some media-guided bitter twisted hatred of the north and the people left behind by the free state government.

I meant the latter

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Any Sinners even suggesting power-sharing is done when the DUP have May over a barrel in Westminster and benefit greatly from direct rule are akin to turkeys voting for Christmas.

The north is a bizarro world where common sense has always been in short supply on both sides.

The north is a bizarre, because it was a line drawn on a map nigh on 100 years ago Syf. It was created because the Unionists would cause holy hell. Despite getting their wishes of a Northern statelet, they caused hell for a lot of the minority in their controlled statlet. Hence the civil rights movement and the Troubles.

That's what they taught me in school.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

foxcommander

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Quote from: NAG1 on November 23, 2017, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on November 23, 2017, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on November 23, 2017, 12:11:11 PM
Lads he is being a WUM on this thread. He has no clue what he is talking about on this.

Do you mean Outinfront or Syferus?
The latter isn't a wind-up merchant, he is just ignorant of the facts. And he's a Fine Gaeler which means he's got some media-guided bitter twisted hatred of the north and the people left behind by the free state government.

I meant the latter

I defer to Destro's comment

Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on November 23, 2017, 12:10:24 AM
If ever a poster could have done with a spell under the Brits in Occupied Ulster, it would have been you.

Syferus would certainly have a different perspective if he had any real knowledge of the subject.

The FG voters who watched on with their hands behind their backs still carry the shame of their inaction. It's why they still come out with the same bullshit to try clear their conscience.

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Orior

Quote from: AQMP on November 23, 2017, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 23, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
There's another very important aspect to be considered - SF need to keep their grassroots onside. It isn't in anyone's interest for grumblings to start about them abandoning the struggle, and the potential for havoc that perceived vacuum would have.

Err, you're talking about the party that isn't even bothering it's hole negotiating an agreement to resume power-sharing and brought it down in the first place? SF are chaos.
Really?  Negotiate what exactly?  The vast majority of nationalist do not want Sinn Fein to resume power sharing as it was before.  Those same nationalists ie their voters,wanted them to bring it down.

This is more or less it.  Power sharing is over.  It doesn't work. The GFA is a busted flush.  Adams got one thing right.  It's the equality agenda Unionists can't handle, though he used a different turn of phrase!

Ha! You're sounding like the one-man-show called Jim Allister.
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

AQMP

Quote from: Orior on November 23, 2017, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: AQMP on November 23, 2017, 01:27:13 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on November 23, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
There's another very important aspect to be considered - SF need to keep their grassroots onside. It isn't in anyone's interest for grumblings to start about them abandoning the struggle, and the potential for havoc that perceived vacuum would have.

Err, you're talking about the party that isn't even bothering it's hole negotiating an agreement to resume power-sharing and brought it down in the first place? SF are chaos.
Really?  Negotiate what exactly?  The vast majority of nationalist do not want Sinn Fein to resume power sharing as it was before.  Those same nationalists ie their voters,wanted them to bring it down.

This is more or less it.  Power sharing is over.  It doesn't work. The GFA is a busted flush.  Adams got one thing right.  It's the equality agenda Unionists can't handle, though he used a different turn of phrase!

Ha! You're sounding like the one-man-show called Jim Allister.

A busted clock is right twice a day...

haranguerer

Quote from: Syferus on November 23, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on November 23, 2017, 10:06:46 AM
There's another very important aspect to be considered - SF need to keep their grassroots onside. It isn't in anyone's interest for grumblings to start about them abandoning the struggle, and the potential for havoc that perceived vacuum would have.

Err, you're talking about the party that isn't even bothering it's hole negotiating an agreement to resume power-sharing and brought it down in the first place? SF are chaos.

Christ you really haven't a notion.