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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« Reply #6675 on: November 16, 2017, 06:10:43 PM »
I dread the idea of O'Neill walking away.  Who would be in the running to replace him and get more out of this group of players?

In fairness spirit has never been an issue for any Irish team so to even try to credit it to this management is fracking daft as fŻck.

MONís very poor tactically, his subs at HT prove that much at least. No one is going to lose much sleep if he walks.

Listen to yourself Ffs!

Getting this team to be winning after 30 minutes of a second leg play off, after drawing away from home, to the World Cup finals with the shittest of teams, and you are giving off about his tactical gamble at halftime, which was to try and win the game after his defenders gifted two goals!!

Thicker than I gave you credit for

Thereís nothing heís done that Trapp wouldnít have. If anything we played better football under Trapp and thatís saying something. Weíve been making playoffs and losing since the stars have been in the sky, that in itself is nothing new.

Results have been fine but the rush to defend and uplift him here (mainly because heís a nordie, if a lot of people taking that position were honest with themselves and the rest of us) is daft. If you donít think we could find just as good if not better management for the price tag youíre not being up front.

MON has done little to introduce younger players, bar enforced changes like Christie for Coleman and Duffy for OíShea, the later because it was getting ridiculous that he was still starting for Ireland and he was costing us big time in the Euros last year. At least a third of MONís squad are footballing pensioners at this stage.

A new manager whoís willing to take the hit and build a team around younger lads might actually be a huge bonus for us in the long term.

You wonít find many people upset were MON to go but itís such a cushy part-time gig I doubt he will.
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« Reply #6676 on: November 16, 2017, 06:58:22 PM »
I dread the idea of O'Neill walking away.  Who would be in the running to replace him and get more out of this group of players?
He's unlikely to walk and i think most are in agreement he has done very well to get one of the weakest ROI panels with injuries to key players this close to the World cup. He has earned the opportunity to try and qualify ROI for Euro 2020 now however I'd question what some of his management team are bringing to the table and one of those are the current favourite for the next ROI manager WTF? Come 2020 someone like Chris Houghton should come in to replace O Neill IMO.

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« Reply #6677 on: November 16, 2017, 07:49:24 PM »
Who are the bright young stars that we can bring in to the team?
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« Reply #6678 on: November 16, 2017, 08:41:00 PM »
I have high hopes for Rice at West Ham who is a ball playing Centre Half as far as I know.  Also, Delaney at Wolves.  Further up the field, Hourihan in the middle of the park and Maguire up front.  I think there are a few coming through although we could be doing with strikers/attackers.
We have a load of keepers and a few holding midfielders.  Could always be doing with a bit more class though.  Oh for a Roy Keane or Damien Duff

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« Reply #6679 on: November 17, 2017, 08:02:51 AM »
if the FAI had a decent coaching and development programme they should be bringing through good yojng lads in LOI clubs and the better prospects go abroad
but we know they don't.
waste money on the likes of Delaney in charge and the schoolboys leagues in Dublin has basically become a few big clubs vs each other to win titles. very little player development

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« Reply #6680 on: November 17, 2017, 08:36:29 AM »
if the FAI had a decent coaching and development programme they should be bringing through good yojng lads in LOI clubs and the better prospects go abroad
but we know they don't.
waste money on the likes of Delaney in charge and the schoolboys leagues in Dublin has basically become a few big clubs vs each other to win titles. very little player development

Nail on the head.
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« Reply #6681 on: November 17, 2017, 09:55:20 AM »
I dread the idea of O'Neill walking away.  Who would be in the running to replace him and get more out of this group of players?

In fairness spirit has never been an issue for any Irish team so to even try to credit it to this management is fracking daft as fŻck.

MONís very poor tactically, his subs at HT prove that much at least. No one is going to lose much sleep if he walks.

They didn't have too much spirit or togetherness when they fell behind Tuesday evening; starting calling each other out, some of them.

The highlight of O'Neill's tenure was the Euro's last year, where, in spite of the Belgium result, they grossly over-achieved. Performances and player-form has dropped off drastically since. Very similar to Kevin Walsh and the Galway football team, I don't think it matters whether O'Neill remains on or not - whoever is in charge may as well go for broke and introduce a raft of new young players and try and build something for 5/6 years down the line. If they are to go that route, they may as well jettison Roy Keane, for that approach is definitely not his forte.

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« Reply #6682 on: November 17, 2017, 09:57:51 AM »
MoN will stay as qualifying for the now ridiculously bloated euros should be easy enough. Dont forget Dublin will be hosting some of the games so I think its something he would want to be involved in.
Its difficult for the fans because in fairness to him he has got some big results against Germany, Italy, Bosnia something we hadnt done for 14 yrs previously, we have at times played some good football esp at the euros but unfortunately we have also played a lot of dung. On one hand we did well to get to the playoffs but on the other hand we completely blew a very good chance to top the group. O'Neil probably should stay simply because there isnt many alternatives. Defo need to blood new players and search deeper into that granny bank.




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« Reply #6683 on: November 17, 2017, 10:30:48 AM »
Dunphy, please quit.

Hoolahan is busted flush and a career journeyman. Heís not the messiah.

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Game was lost on Saturday night. A lack of an away goal meant that any goal for Denmark tonight was going to see Ireland chasing at least two goals, the very concept of which filled them with dread, fear and nervousness. You canít go from no attacking plan to goal threat at the drop of a hat.
Most sensible thing I've read on here.

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« Reply #6684 on: November 17, 2017, 10:43:48 AM »
Dunphy, please quit.

Hoolahan is busted flush and a career journeyman. Heís not the messiah.

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Game was lost on Saturday night. A lack of an away goal meant that any goal for Denmark tonight was going to see Ireland chasing at least two goals, the very concept of which filled them with dread, fear and nervousness. You canít go from no attacking plan to goal threat at the drop of a hat.
Most sensible thing I've read on here.
Wobbler also had this:

They are a group of professional players who in the evidence of the past two years cannot pass, cannot trap, cannot cushion a header, cannot play a one touch pass, cannot create space, cannot use either foot for anything other than a bejasus big swipe at the ball. So why presume any of them can cross?

It was in fine contrast to this :

Hendrick said: "Donít get me wrong. He is a good player. We have watched clips. He has got good delivery from set-pieces, he has clever movement, he has done really well.

"But he is only one player. We have played against better players than him. That is not doing him down. He still has to play his game and he has to stop us  as well.

"They play good football, you expect that with some of the players they have. But itís not anything weíre not used to. We play against a lot of bigger countries with players at big clubs. The group we have here, it doesnít seem to faze us much.
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« Reply #6685 on: November 17, 2017, 10:44:43 AM »
I dread the idea of O'Neill walking away.  Who would be in the running to replace him and get more out of this group of players?

In fairness spirit has never been an issue for any Irish team so to even try to credit it to this management is fracking daft as fŻck.

MONís very poor tactically, his subs at HT prove that much at least. No one is going to lose much sleep if he walks.

They didn't have too much spirit or togetherness when they fell behind Tuesday evening; starting calling each other out, some of them.

The highlight of O'Neill's tenure was the Euro's last year, where, in spite of the Belgium result, they grossly over-achieved. Performances and player-form has dropped off drastically since. Very similar to Kevin Walsh and the Galway football team, I don't think it matters whether O'Neill remains on or not - whoever is in charge may as well go for broke and introduce a raft of new young players and try and build something for 5/6 years down the line. If they are to go that route, they may as well jettison Roy Keane, for that approach is definitely not his forte.
A draw against Sweden and a win against a second string Italy is overachieving?

Ask Stephen Kenny to manage them. We might lose half our games but we might get some entertainment along the way. The midfielders might have even find the ball at their feet some of the time.

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« Reply #6686 on: November 17, 2017, 11:17:42 AM »

A draw against Sweden and a win against a second string Italy is overachieving?

Ask Stephen Kenny to manage them. We might lose half our games but we might get some entertainment along the way. The midfielders might have even find the ball at their feet some of the time.

*They* didn't beat *us* in fairness; I thought it would be 2012 all over again where we got whacked in every game. We also gave a good go against France who were jittery for a while.

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« Reply #6687 on: November 17, 2017, 11:24:25 AM »
MoN will stay as qualifying for the now ridiculously bloated euros should be easy enough. Dont forget Dublin will be hosting some of the games so I think its something he would want to be involved in.
Its difficult for the fans because in fairness to him he has got some big results against Germany, Italy, Bosnia something we hadnt done for 14 yrs previously, we have at times played some good football esp at the euros but unfortunately we have also played a lot of dung. On one hand we did well to get to the playoffs but on the other hand we completely blew a very good chance to top the group. O'Neil probably should stay simply because there isnt many alternatives. Defo need to blood new players and search deeper into that granny bank.

I think the granny bank is part of the chronic problem. As long as we're getting English 'cast-offs' and 'not good enoughs' we'll always be playing catch-up to them and others. Not saying every player we got this way is like that or anything, but the best players who could qualify for either country tend to stick to the stronger one, e.g., Wayne Rooney, Harry Kane. We really need to make our home league stronger, keep our better players for longer, and maybe think of sending them to other leagues in Europe rather than just the tried-and-trusted cross-channel ones. Not at all easy I know.

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« Reply #6688 on: November 17, 2017, 11:24:56 AM »

A draw against Sweden and a win against a second string Italy is overachieving?

Ask Stephen Kenny to manage them. We might lose half our games but we might get some entertainment along the way. The midfielders might have even find the ball at their feet some of the time.

*They* didn't beat *us* in fairness; I thought it would be 2012 all over again where we got whacked in every game. We also gave a good go against France who were jittery for a while.
That's all fine but I wouldn't call it overachieving.

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« Reply #6689 on: November 17, 2017, 11:41:27 AM »
MoN will stay as qualifying for the now ridiculously bloated euros should be easy enough. Dont forget Dublin will be hosting some of the games so I think its something he would want to be involved in.
Its difficult for the fans because in fairness to him he has got some big results against Germany, Italy, Bosnia something we hadnt done for 14 yrs previously, we have at times played some good football esp at the euros but unfortunately we have also played a lot of dung. On one hand we did well to get to the playoffs but on the other hand we completely blew a very good chance to top the group. O'Neil probably should stay simply because there isnt many alternatives. Defo need to blood new players and search deeper into that granny bank.

I think the granny bank is part of the chronic problem. As long as we're getting English 'cast-offs' and 'not good enoughs' we'll always be playing catch-up to them and others. Not saying every player we got this way is like that or anything, but the best players who could qualify for either country tend to stick to the stronger one, e.g., Wayne Rooney, Harry Kane. We really need to make our home league stronger, keep our better players for longer, and maybe think of sending them to other leagues in Europe rather than just the tried-and-trusted cross-channel ones. Not at all easy I know.

It depends on the player of course most would declare for England first but as long as they seem up for it right from the start unlike some who seem to dither over the call up. At least Mark Noble was consistent and just refused any approach. The problem with the granny rule is there are not many English lads playing in the premiership hence why even half decent championship players are starting to think they are close to a call up.
Alos a number of these so called wonder kids who look like the next big thing end up being a bit shite just seem to disappear into the reserves of lowly teams - Bamford , Crowley, Grealish etc