The same-sex marriage referendum debate

[easytiger95]

Even if I wanted to, I wouldn't have to try too hard to demonise you Armaghniac. Is there anyone else you'd like to accuse of reorganising the country to suit their own motives?

[easytiger95]

Go on, make another "bent" joke, just for the craic.

[muppet]

This issue will be decided on Friday, and to those who vote their conscience Yes or No, all I can say is congratulations. This has been a spectacular exercise in democracy, no matter the result, and as a people, we don't give ourselves enough credit for engaging in it.

This has been an exercise in democracy convened by venal politicians against a background of deliberate misinformation, a malign conscious attempt to debase a serious subject and stifle debate and demonise the opposition. An exercise where charities are bribed to support one side, where the media don't even pretend to be unbiased in many cases and where many of the participants don't even accept any need for them to be unbiased.

Wow.

Are you Mary reorganise the country to suit my family McAleese?

But enough about the No campaign.

Who funds The Iona Institute?

Y'know, the mouthpiece of the Catholic Church in Ireland, which incidentally I believe has charity status. It spent time 10 years ago bashing the Centre for Public Inquiry, for whatever reason. That of course was another Chuck Feeney vehicle, but back then, it was investigating the State. Now, Armaghniac is claiming that Feeney & co are conspiring with the state.

At least Atlantic Philanthropies comes clean about what it funds.

Now again, who is funding The Iona Institute?

[easytiger95]

But how dare I impugn your motives (when you're too busy impugning everyone elses)?

[armaghniac]

But enough about the No campaign.

Who funds The Iona Institute?

Y'know, the mouthpiece of the Catholic Church in Ireland, which incidentally I believe has charity status.

The Catholic Church has 84% of the population, I'm sure it can raise enough money without getting Americans to fund it.

[foxcommander]

Other funds in Ireland went to either to groups with a partial LBGT agenda or to people like Barnardos who probably did good work but who have now been recruited into the campaign when they should have concentrated on their job.

Don't forget who the CEO of Barnardo's is - one Fergus Finlay with a salary of 100k+ p.a.
Who's doing the government's bidding for them. They stick their agents into all these charity boards as payoffs to supplement incomes.

charity my hole. Won't ever give them a red cent again.

[muppet]

But enough about the No campaign.

Who funds The Iona Institute?

Y'know, the mouthpiece of the Catholic Church in Ireland, which incidentally I believe has charity status.

The Catholic Church has 84% of the population, I'm sure it can raise enough money without getting Americans to fund it.

We don't know do we.

All of the groups you criticised registered with the Standards in Public Office (SIPO), but The Iona Institute has refused to. Why is that? No campaigners are trumpeting about transparently provided sources of funding, yet are silent on the source of funds for one of the most vocal NO campaigners, if not the most vocal considering their leader has a regular column in a daily newspaper.

[Rossfan]

Will the 24 hour moratorium apply tomorrow to Gaaboard??

[ballinaman]

Will the 24 hour moratorium apply tomorrow to Gaaboard??

Literally about the post that!

[Sidney]

But enough about the No campaign.

Who funds The Iona Institute?

Y'know, the mouthpiece of the Catholic Church in Ireland, which incidentally I believe has charity status.

The Catholic Church has 84% of the population, I'm sure it can raise enough money without getting Americans to fund it.

We don't know do we.

All of the groups you criticised registered with the Standards in Public Office (SIPO), but The Iona Institute has refused to. Why is that? No campaigners are trumpeting about transparently provided sources of funding, yet are silent on the source of funds for one of the most vocal NO campaigners, if not the most vocal considering their leader has a regular column in a daily newspaper.

IONA, Legatus, Opus Dei, numerous US conservative Christian organisations and the billionaire founder of Domino's Pizza are all interlinked.

And I have no problem with that. But it's some laugh when the No campaign complain about entirely legitimate fundraising by LGBT lobby groups, given that they are extremely well funded themselves.

IONA has around ten or less members, yet their media reach goes way, way beyond what you would expect from such a tiny organisation.

[magpie seanie]

Ah no - Dominos Pizza?

Would they provide pizzas for a gay wedding?

[Sidney]

I have an image of Armaghniac and Tony Fearon mumbling "bent", and then laughing at each other like Beavis and Butthead.

That's about the limit of their argument.

[topcuppla]

Any of you boys on here going to be getting married this year if the Yes vote wins?

[AZOffaly]

Any of you boys on here going to be getting married this year if the Yes vote wins?

And there it is.

[muppet]

Any of you boys on here going to be getting married this year if the Yes vote wins?

That in a nutshell, sums up your mentality.

That and repeatedly asking what will happen a kid with gay parents when they pick them up at school. The answer is f*ck all that hasn't happened in Ireland in the past to kids of single parents, jailed parents, traveller parents, black parents, foreign parents etc, only we are probably far more tolerant than we used to be.