The same-sex marriage referendum debate

Started by Hardy, February 06, 2015, 09:38:02 AM

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How will you vote in the referendum

I have a vote and will vote "Yes"
58 (25.2%)
I have a vote and will vote "No"
23 (10%)
I have a vote but haven't decided how to vote
7 (3%)
I don't have a vote but would vote "Yes" if I did
107 (46.5%)
I don't have a vote but would vote "No" if I did
26 (11.3%)
I don't have a vote and haven't decided how I would vote if I did
9 (3.9%)

Total Members Voted: 230

J70

Quote from: nrico2006 on April 29, 2015, 12:07:15 PM
Marriage has been for defined for centuries as being between a man and a woman, therefore I don't see how two women or two men being united can be deemed to be 'marriage'.  Why try and redefine something?  The union of two people of the same sex should be something that is available to anybody who wants it, but it should have its own identity.   

So the name is your only objection?

screenexile

Quote from: ziggysego on April 29, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Last night I was at the West Tyrone Decides debate in Omagh. In West Tyrone, we have 9 candidates standing for election, but Tom Buchanan of the DUP was a no-show.

The question came around to marriage equality and of course all eyes turned towards the Independent Susan-Anne White. She claimed that gay parents were 40% more likely to abuse their children. Of course there was outrage from the rest of the panel and the audience, people asking her to proves the states she was claiming. Instead, she named two gay people that allegedly abused children. They live internet feed was immediately cut due to legal reasons.

There was outcrys from everyone saying that two people do not amount to 40% increase within the gay community. When asked by Conor Keys, the chair of the debate, did she look into heterosexual child abuse cases. Susan-Anne just replied no, that doesn't matter. She said she was only concerned with gay child abuse cases.

Says it all really. Child abuse is child abuse. It does not matter what section of the community you belong to.

Holy shit!!!

AZOffaly

Is this not exactly what Jim Wells lost his job over? Is she mental?

imtommygunn

It is very rare any politician is held to account for anything up here AZ. I think that Wells went more due to an altercation or two at the weekend when he was out canvassing. (To be honest I have no evidence of this but more what I believe).

These guys say what they want.


ziggysego

Quote from: AZOffaly on April 29, 2015, 04:05:10 PM
Is this not exactly what Jim Wells lost his job over? Is she mental?

1) She's an independent, so has no 'job'
2) Clearly is
3) Her blog https://thetruthshallsetyoufreeblog.wordpress.com/
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gallsman

That Dan Higgins lad was in my Masters. An insufferable gobshite.

deiseach

Quote from: gallsman on April 29, 2015, 04:26:29 PM
That Dan Higgins lad was in my Masters. An insufferable gobshite.

No kidding.

screenexile

What a complete whackjob . . .

QuoteMy Election Manifesto
Apr
28
Below is the full text of my election manifesto. Some newspapers have misrepresented some of my principles, either unintentionally or by design. They have left out some words, and misspelled another. I draw your attention in particular to their misspelling of the word "protect", with they have spelt as "protest". The papers concerned (and there could be others) are The Mirror (UK edition), The Huffington Post UK, and The Evening Times, a Glasgow-based newspaper.

I pledge to...
Close Marie Stopes Abortion clinic
Oppose the extension of the 1967 Abortion Act to Northern Ireland
Remove State-sponsored amoral sex education from schools
Restore corporal punishment to schools
Uphold parental rights to discipline children, including the right to smack
Raise the age of consent for sexual intercourse to 18 and enforce the new law
Make it an offence for doctors to give contraceptives to underage children
Oppose the LGBT agenda, whilst showing compassion to those who struggle with gender confusion
Oppose the redefinition of marriage and uphold Biblical man/woman marriage
Ban gay pride parades and recriminalise homosexuality
Stop the State funding of LGBT organisations
Make adultery a punishable offence
Abolish the Equality Commission NI and the Human Rights Commission NI and give the money they receive to the NHS
Oppose feminism

Restore dignity to the role of the stay-at-home mother
Restore the concept of a family wage with the father as the bread-winner
Oppose the legalisation of dangerous drugs
Protect the NHS and increase funding by abolishing unnecessary and money-wasting bureaucrats and quangos
Withdraw from money-wasting and decadent Europe
Oppose the global warming fanatics and their pseudo-science
Imprison those found guilty of animal cruelty, including those involved in dog fights
Install CCTV in all abattoirs
Ban halal slaughter
Oppose the Islamisation of British culture – no more mosques and no more mosque extensions
Restore capital punishment for murder, including terrorist murders


This entry was posted on April 28, 2015.

AZOffaly

Quote from: ziggysego on April 29, 2015, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 29, 2015, 04:05:10 PM
Is this not exactly what Jim Wells lost his job over? Is she mental?

1) She's an independent, so has no 'job'
2) Clearly is
3) Her blog https://thetruthshallsetyoufreeblog.wordpress.com/

I meant did she not see the outcry after Wells' remarks. Therefore 2).

ziggysego

Quote from: screenexile on April 29, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
What a complete whackjob . . .

QuoteMy Election Manifesto
Apr
28
Below is the full text of my election manifesto. Some newspapers have misrepresented some of my principles, either unintentionally or by design. They have left out some words, and misspelled another. I draw your attention in particular to their misspelling of the word "protect", with they have spelt as "protest". The papers concerned (and there could be others) are The Mirror (UK edition), The Huffington Post UK, and The Evening Times, a Glasgow-based newspaper.

I pledge to...
Close Marie Stopes Abortion clinic
Oppose the extension of the 1967 Abortion Act to Northern Ireland
Remove State-sponsored amoral sex education from schools
Restore corporal punishment to schools
Uphold parental rights to discipline children, including the right to smack
Raise the age of consent for sexual intercourse to 18 and enforce the new law
Make it an offence for doctors to give contraceptives to underage children
Oppose the LGBT agenda, whilst showing compassion to those who struggle with gender confusion
Oppose the redefinition of marriage and uphold Biblical man/woman marriage
Ban gay pride parades and recriminalise homosexuality
Stop the State funding of LGBT organisations
Make adultery a punishable offence
Abolish the Equality Commission NI and the Human Rights Commission NI and give the money they receive to the NHS
Oppose feminism

Restore dignity to the role of the stay-at-home mother
Restore the concept of a family wage with the father as the bread-winner
Oppose the legalisation of dangerous drugs
Protect the NHS and increase funding by abolishing unnecessary and money-wasting bureaucrats and quangos
Withdraw from money-wasting and decadent Europe
Oppose the global warming fanatics and their pseudo-science
Imprison those found guilty of animal cruelty, including those involved in dog fights
Install CCTV in all abattoirs
Ban halal slaughter
Oppose the Islamisation of British culture – no more mosques and no more mosque extensions
Restore capital punishment for murder, including terrorist murders


This entry was posted on April 28, 2015.

As for Halal slaughter ban, she stated last night she wants CCTV cameras installed in all butchers to watch over this....
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deiseach

Sensible policies for a happier Britain!

Bingo

Not much let off her "list" but I'd be interested to hear her policies on environmental issues.  :P

gallsman

Quote from: deiseach on April 29, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 29, 2015, 04:26:29 PM
That Dan Higgins lad was in my Masters. An insufferable gobshite.

No kidding.

In an mildly interesting aside, in no way related to this or any other debate whatsoever, his wife went into labour at their wedding reception. He used to bizarrely march around with a big 2l bottle of volvic all the time.

screenexile

Quote from: deiseach on April 29, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
Sensible policies for a happier Britain!

She sounds like your ideal UKIP candidate... that'll be the next move after this election. I'd be intrigued to see how many actually vote for her.

ziggysego

Quote from: screenexile on April 29, 2015, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 29, 2015, 04:35:28 PM
Sensible policies for a happier Britain!

She sounds like your ideal UKIP candidate... that'll be the next move after this election. I'd be intrigued to see how many actually vote for her.

In the Fermanagh and Omagh District Council elections last year - 67.
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