Leinster Senior football championship 2024

[Blowitupref]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.   Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

[seafoid]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.   Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

Anyone who thinks Leinster football is alive is deluded.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.   Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

Its nearly a disadvantage being a 2nd seed you see the likely seeds below. Seed 3 arguably stronger than 2.

Seed 1
Dublin
Kerry
Derry
Mayo

Seed 2
Louth
Clare
Armagh
Galway

Seed 3
Tyrone
Donegal
Roscommon
Monaghan

Seed 4
Cavan
Cork
Meath
Westmeath

[Armagh18]

Derry are showing it's possible for smaller counties to push Dublin. Meath and Kildare if they got the house in order should be at a similar level to Derry at the minute? Don't think thats a ridiculous statement is it?

[seafoid]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.   Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

Its nearly a disadvantage being a 2nd seed you see the likely seeds below. Seed 3 arguably stronger than 2.

Seed 1
Dublin
Kerry
Derry
Mayo

Seed 2
Louth
Clare
Armagh
Galway

Seed 3
Tyrone
Donegal
Roscommon
Monaghan

Seed 4
Cavan
Cork
Meath
Westmeath

Of course it is. Seed 2 is provincial losers. Leinster and Munster finalists won't be from Division 1 whereas Seed 3 will be more likely to have Division 1

[Gael85]

https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/331412


Now of all the legends sitting on the Bench. I would have thought Cluxton was the one most likely to improve Dublin's performance.
What do you think?

Where is O'Hanlon? I was fairly impressed anytime I seen him. Wasnt impressed with Comerford at the weekend at all

Comerford better on the kickouts than O'Hanlon. With Costello injured Comerford was needed for 45s. Didn't have a good game. Unusually slow with his restarts and struggled with the Derry press.

[Derryman forever]

Derry are showing it's possible for smaller counties to push Dublin. Meath and Kildare if they got the house in order should be at a similar level to Derry at the minute? Don't think thats a ridiculous statement is it?

Certainly is not. And in real Terms when you make allowance for the demographic of Derry's population and the Soccer influence in Derry City. Meath are much bigger than Derry.

[Blowitupref]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.  Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

Its nearly a disadvantage being a 2nd seed you see the likely seeds below. Seed 3 arguably stronger than 2.

Seed 1
Dublin
Kerry
Derry
Mayo

Seed 2
Louth
Clare
Armagh
Galway

Seed 3
Tyrone
Donegal
Roscommon
Monaghan

Seed 4
Cavan
Cork
Meath
Westmeath

You never know, after all Armagh was a second seed last year and was just a penalty shootout win away from reaching the last four.

[Blowitupref]

Teams named.

WESTMEATH:

Jason Daly
Daniel Scahill, Charlie Drumm, James Dolan;
Nigel Harte, David Lynch, Sam McCartan;
Ray Connellan, Andy McCormack;
Jonathan Lynam, Ronan O'Toole, Conor Dillon;
Luke Loughlin, Robbie Forde, Stephen Smith.

Subs: Trevor Martin, Matthew Whittaker, Senan Baker, Jack Smith, Shane Allen, Conor McCormack, Eoin Mulvihill, Lorcan Dolan, Eoghan McCabe, John Heslin, Ronan Wallace

WICKLOW:

Shane Doyle;
Tom Moran, Jack Treacy, Eoin Murtagh;
Matt Nolan, Patrick O Keane, Gavin Fogarty;
Dean Healy, Craig Maguire;
Darragh Fee, Christopher O Brien, Jack Kirwan;
Jonathan Carlin, Kevin Quinn, John Paul Nolan.

 Subs: Cathal Fitzgerald, Brian Nesbitt, Cillian Mc Donald, Gearoid Murphy, Joe Prendergast, Oisin Mc Graynor, Adam Arslan, Jaques Mc Call, Martin Cullen, Liam O Neill, Dan Cooney


LONGFORD:

Patrick Collum
Patrick Fox, Oisín O'Toole, Liam Hughes
Bryan Masterson, Ryan Moffett, Dessie Reynolds
Darren Gallagher, Paddy Kiernan
Mark Hughes, Michael Quinn, Joseph Hagan
Daniel Reynolds, Daniel Mimnagh, Keelin Mc Gann.

Subs: Mícheál Hughes, Darragh Finlass, Bryn Peters, Diarmuid Farrell, James Kiernan, Sean O'Sullivan; Ruairí Harkin, Jayson Matthews, Dáire Duggan, Dylan Farrell, Cathal McCabe

MEATH:
 
Seán Brennan
Donal Keogan, Adam O'Neill, Harry O'Higgins;
Ciarán Caulfield, Ross Ryan, Seán Coffey;
Ronan Jones, Daithí McGowan;
Shane Walsh, Eoghan Frayne, Cathal Hickey
Jordan Morris, Matthew Costello, James Conlon.

Subs: Billy Hogan, Cian McBride, Darragh Campion, Jack O'Connor, Ronan Ryan, Michael Murphy, Keith Curtis, Aaron Lynch, Ruairí Kinsella, Jason Scully, Seán Rafferty


WEXFORD:

Rory Tubritt;
Eoin Porter, Gavin Sheehan, Darragh Lyons;
Kevin O'Grady, Dylan Furlong, Glen Malone;
Liam Coleman, Niall Hughes;
Páraic Hughes, Eoghan Nolan, Mark Rossiter;
Graeme Cullen, Sean Nolan, Conor Kinsella.

Subs: Graham Staples, Liam O'Connor, Conor Carty, Shane Doyle, Cathal Walsh, Jonathon Bealin, Liam Doyle, Dean O'Toole, Tom Byrne, Shane Pettit, Ben Brosnan

CARLOW:

Johnny Furey;
Colin Byrne, Mark Furey, Dara Curran;
Mikey Bambrick, Conor Doyle, Shane Clarke;
John Murphy, Niall Hickey;
Aaron Amond, Colm Hulton, Conor Crowley,
Ross Dunphy, Jamie Clarke, Paddy McDonnell.

Subs: Ciaran Cunningham, Eric Molloy, Bryan McMahon, Josh Moore, Cormac Lomax, Shane Buggy, Kevin Murphy, Jamie Lunney, Cathal Kelly

[seafoid]

How to fill 346 words about the Leinster fuball without mentioning the source of the problem

The key metric now is who can occupy the second final place

https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2024/0405/1441926-ciaran-whelans-provincial-championship-predictions/
LEINSTER
Who wants to play Dublin in Croke Park and get well beaten?
The Dubs' average winning margin in Leinster finals is 15 points. It's very low-key and it's a long way from the noughties when Kildare were winning Leinster championships, when Laois, in 2003 were winning, and then Westmeath a year later. Croke Park was rocking and buzzing, that's gone now.
Issues around who may drop into the Tailteann Cup keeps some sort of interest here. Whether it would be a good thing for Kildare to go into the Sam Maguire is questionable, this after the way they've been going.
And then you have Westmeath not guaranteed their spot.
Westmeath had the best defensive record in the league this year but they are not putting up big scores. They are very structured in their approach and have made themselves very difficult to beat.
 
Ger Brennan maintained Louth's position in Division 2 and with it a place in Sam Maguire
I was quite impressed with Louth during the league from the bits I saw of them. I think Ger Brennan has them moving very, very well and they have a couple of really good quality forwards. They are well organised and have a variety to their play in terms of their defensive set-up and pressing high up the field.
I would have it between Westmeath and Louth for a final spot. If Kildare come and do the same as they had done during the league, they'll have no chance.
I give Westmeath a narrow edge. Louth are already in the Sam Maguire; they have their position, so they could have one eye on that rather than going into another Leinster final against Dublin and suffering a tough day at the office like last year.
Westmeath have that need to secure their group position and will feel they are big enough and strong enough to be there. If Dessie Dolan gets the likes of Heslin [John], Wallace [Ronan] and Maguire [Kevin] back, I think they are the ones that will have the ambition to get to a final.

[thejuice]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.   Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

Anyone who thinks Leinster football is alive is deluded.

The fact that the head man in Leinster is in denial about the problem is the most concerning fact. How long before they pull their heads out of the sand? Do stadiums have to be empty before they take some action on this.

The other counties in Leinster clearly need help and not just financial. There needs to be some sort of audit on it to see what the likes of Meath, Kildare, Laois etc are doing wrong and propose solutions. Otherwise a load of time, money and other resources will be wasted trying to keep up with Dublin.

I honestly think at this stage no one in Meath County Board has an answer to the problem. There was a lad appointed to over see S&C for all county teams but he walked away after 2 years. All of last years back room team with the senior team has left. You have to wonder why after winning the Tailteann Cup with a young team they would all leave.

[Derryman forever]

Leinster GAA chief says provincial football and hurling championships are 'alive and kicking'

Maybe hurling but he must be living in a different world to the rest of us when it comes to football. Take Dublin out and you'd have a competitive championship.

Dublin probably won't be beaten in Leinster until another one of the teams becomes established Division one team and that doesn't look to be happening anytime soon.

It's a race for 2nd place at the moment which gives you a 2nd seed spot in the All Ireland championship group stage. Meath might see themselves as the 2nd best but have got the short straw getting Dublin.   Anyone of Kildare/Westmeath/Louth could reach the final making it interesting on that side of the draw.

Anyone who thinks Leinster football is alive is deluded.

The fact that the head man in Leinster is in denial about the problem is the most concerning fact. How long before they pull their heads out of the sand? Do stadiums have to be empty before they take some action on this.

The other counties in Leinster clearly need help and not just financial. There needs to be some sort of audit on it to see what the likes of Meath, Kildare, Laois etc are doing wrong and propose solutions. Otherwise a load of time, money and other resources will be wasted trying to keep up with Dublin.

I honestly think at this stage no one in Meath County Board has an answer to the problem. There was a lad appointed to over see S&C for all county teams but he walked away after 2 years. All of last years back room team with the senior team has left. You have to wonder why after winning the Tailteann Cup with a young team they would all leave.

Maybe they failed their end of year latin exam.

[thejuice]

Something isn't right though and saying counties just need to shape up isn't enough. There needs to be a review across all of Leinster to understand what is needed to bring all counties up to a competitive level. Otherwise we're going to see decades slip by and we won't be any closer to solving the problem unless provincial competitions are done away with altogether. If provinces are to stay then this problem has to be solved by the GAA and the Leinster Council.

Leaving it up to the counties themselves isn't good enough and they aren't capable of saving themselves at this point.

[From the Bunker]

Something isn't right though and saying counties just need to shape up isn't enough. There needs to be a review across all of Leinster to understand what is needed to bring all counties up to a competitive level. Otherwise we're going to see decades slip by and we won't be any closer to solving the problem unless provincial competitions are done away with altogether. If provinces are to stay then this problem has to be solved by the GAA and the Leinster Council.

Leaving it up to the counties themselves isn't good enough and they aren't capable of saving themselves at this point.

(Playing devils advocate Here)

Other than the Cash Cow that is Dublin why should the GAA care about how any county does? When Meath were winning AI's and Leinsters for fun nearly a quarter of a Century ago, did ye care about how anyone else was getting on? It's basically tough sh*t if you cannot get your house in order. What do you want special treatment in Leinster?

[thejuice]

Something isn't right though and saying counties just need to shape up isn't enough. There needs to be a review across all of Leinster to understand what is needed to bring all counties up to a competitive level. Otherwise we're going to see decades slip by and we won't be any closer to solving the problem unless provincial competitions are done away with altogether. If provinces are to stay then this problem has to be solved by the GAA and the Leinster Council.

Leaving it up to the counties themselves isn't good enough and they aren't capable of saving themselves at this point.

(Playing devils advocate Here)

Other than the Cash Cow that is Dublin why should the GAA care about how any county does? When Meath were winning AI's and Leinsters for fun nearly a quarter of a Century ago, did ye care about how anyone else was getting on? It's basically tough sh*t if you cannot get your house in order. What do you want special treatment in Leinster?

No one was saying Leinster was a dead competition then. It's not like we won 13 in a row ever. It was competitive in the 80, 90 and 00. Granted more could have been done then to help weaker counties but with the rise of Westmeath, Laois, Offaly it looked to be happening for a while.

And I'm not asking for special treatment for Meath alone I'm asking for this for all counties in Leinster. Otherwise it's going the way of the Connacht hurling championship.

As for getting our house in order, fine, we're all up for that but what does that statement actually involve? No one seems to know. That's why  we need help as do so many other counties.