The developing UK constitutional crisis and the status of Northern Ireland

Started by seafoid, October 25, 2014, 06:10:27 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: LCohen on November 01, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 01, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 01, 2014, 11:47:18 AM
The reason for under achievement in education in PUL communities can be laid firmly at the door of their politicians who continue to bleat on about grammar schools and protecting their status. There was a culture in PUL communities that you left school and went to work with your dad, uncle etc... But these traditional job opportunities no longer exist and FE legislation makes it harder to gain employment solely on the basis of who you know. Unionist politicians have failed to encourage their communities to move with the times.
Why doesn't the Unionist community do isn't something done about this ?
If they we don't invest in their our weaker communities what sort of a future have they we?

I tidied that up for you or at least tried to bring it up to a civilised standard
With 2 separate education systems where is the mechanism for both sides to give poor Protestant kids the help they need and are not getting ?

Minder

Quote from: seafoid on November 05, 2014, 08:25:44 AM
Quote from: LCohen on November 01, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 01, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 01, 2014, 11:47:18 AM
The reason for under achievement in education in PUL communities can be laid firmly at the door of their politicians who continue to bleat on about grammar schools and protecting their status. There was a culture in PUL communities that you left school and went to work with your dad, uncle etc... But these traditional job opportunities no longer exist and FE legislation makes it harder to gain employment solely on the basis of who you know. Unionist politicians have failed to encourage their communities to move with the times.
Why doesn't the Unionist community do isn't something done about this ?
If they we don't invest in their our weaker communities what sort of a future have they we?

I tidied that up for you or at least tried to bring it up to a civilised standard
With 2 separate education systems where is the mechanism for both sides to give poor Protestant kids the help they need and are not getting ?

What mechanisms are in place for poor catholics to get the help they need ?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

LCohen

Quote from: seafoid on November 05, 2014, 08:25:44 AM
Quote from: LCohen on November 01, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 01, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 01, 2014, 11:47:18 AM
The reason for under achievement in education in PUL communities can be laid firmly at the door of their politicians who continue to bleat on about grammar schools and protecting their status. There was a culture in PUL communities that you left school and went to work with your dad, uncle etc... But these traditional job opportunities no longer exist and FE legislation makes it harder to gain employment solely on the basis of who you know. Unionist politicians have failed to encourage their communities to move with the times.
Why doesn't the Unionist community do isn't something done about this ?
If they we don't invest in their our weaker communities what sort of a future have they we?

I tidied that up for you or at least tried to bring it up to a civilised standard
With 2 separate education systems where is the mechanism for both sides to give poor Protestant kids the help they need and are not getting ?

a hypothetical;

lets say you are man from Dundalk with 2 kids (both boys) and a business. That buiness employs 20 people. 10 males and 10 females. Because of your gender you went to the local boys school. Your sons are now doing likewise. As a concerned citizen and as employer would you have any interest in the quality of education in the local girls' school? If there were issues in respect of the quality of the education in that girls' school do you think the whole of local society should be seeking to address matters or at least to see that matters were being addressed?