Should An Glenn object?

Started by OrchardOrange, January 24, 2023, 11:37:12 AM

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AI club final controversy

Yes - Typical Dubs up to no good as usual
30 (19.1%)
No - Typical Nordies causing mischief as usual
21 (13.4%)
Should not have to. GAA HQ should already have called a replay
106 (67.5%)

Total Members Voted: 157

Voting closed: January 26, 2023, 11:37:12 AM

seafoid

. "Policies in motion tend to stay in motion ; to change the trajectory of a deeply embedded set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal motion » Steve Walt

I hope the DRA tell KC to f**k off.


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/02/03/kilmacud-crokes-lodge-appeal-against-cccc-ruling-that-all-ireland-final-should-be-replayed/
Kilmacud Crokes lodge appeal against CCCC ruling that All-Ireland final should be replayed
GAA's independent arbitration body now the likely destination for Dublin club's appeal


Seán Moran
Fri Feb 3


Kilmacud Crokes have lodged an appeal against the annulling of their All-Ireland club final win against Glen. Earlier in the week the Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC) had heard from both clubs on foot of objection and counter-objection and decided to replay the match.
Glen had objected on the grounds that their opponents had 16 players on the field, defending the Derry champions' last attack in the dying seconds of the final.
Kilmacud had argued that they had done nothing wrong and that the report of referee Derek O'Mahoney, who made no mention of the matter, should be respected.
The CCCC nonetheless decided that Rule 6.44, governing the presence of excess players on the pitch, had been infringed – images of the breach had been widely seen in the media – and that of the three penalties available, a replay was more appropriate than a forfeit or a fine.
Kilmacud had already indicated that they would take the decision to the Central Appeals Committee and that was confirmed on Friday.
It is unlikely that any procedural issue has arisen from the CCCC hearing and decision, which is usually necessary to win an appeal, but it is a required part of the process to take the matter to the GAA's independent arbitration body, the Disputes Resolution Authority – which the club may well have had in mind as the destination tribunal most likely to rule in their favour.
If that is their chosen route, the club will have seven days after the appeal hearing, which is expected to be held in the coming days.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Nanderson

Glen remove their objection so there will be no replay

Ghost

"Due to the ongoing proceedings we as a club now do not believe the conditions exist for a replay to be contested"

What exactly do they mean by that? Do they see Kilmacuds appeal as valid or can they simply not be bothered anymore?

Franko

Quote from: Franko on January 24, 2023, 08:47:21 AM
Glen chairman phones relevant GAA mandarin and says - "We're going to appeal, award us a replay and we'll decline it.  BUT, we need something for it."

GAA award replay

Glen decline

Both respective organisations look good in the public eye

Glen get a big cheque.


This is how it should play out if anyone had any sense.

Ahem... just the team holiday to go now.

johnnycool

Quote from: Ghost on February 03, 2023, 08:04:54 PM
"Due to the ongoing proceedings we as a club now do not believe the conditions exist for a replay to be contested"

What exactly do they mean by that? Do they see Kilmacuds appeal as valid or can they simply not be bothered anymore?

The adverse publicly has gotten to them

Croke park breathes a huge sigh of relief

tonto1888


armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

pbat

I dont see how this is the finish of it. The GAA ruled against Kilmacud during the week, surely that ruling still stands regardless what Glen want. So will KMC not have to appeal that ruling? And if the appeal is unsuccessful can they remain champions?

oakleaflad

Quote from: Ghost on February 03, 2023, 08:04:54 PM
"Due to the ongoing proceedings we as a club now do not believe the conditions exist for a replay to be contested"

What exactly do they mean by that? Do they see Kilmacuds appeal as valid or can they simply not be bothered anymore?
Neither I'd imagine. More likely they think Kilmacud aren't going to replay the game under any circumstances. Still feel they were right to appeal, if only to force the GAA to look into the area and improve/clarify their rules.

seafoid

Quote from: Ghost on February 03, 2023, 08:04:54 PM
"Due to the ongoing proceedings we as a club now do not believe the conditions exist for a replay to be contested"

What exactly do they mean by that? Do they see Kilmacuds appeal as valid or can they simply not be bothered anymore?
I think it means that it's the GAA's problem now and that they didn't want to be part of the bullshit any longer.
This is really bad for the GAA.

"Watty Graham's GAC, Glen lodged an objection to the result of the All-Ireland club final because we believed that grounds existed for a replay to be held if Rule 6.44 had been broken."

The rule was broken but KC didn't accept that it had been. So the rules don't matter. They are just a culture war.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trailer

Told you so.

No chance that game was ever going to be replayed.


seafoid

Quote from: pbat on February 03, 2023, 08:18:23 PM
I dont see how this is the finish of it. The GAA ruled against Kilmacud during the week, surely that ruling still stands regardless what Glen want. So will KMC not have to appeal that ruling? And if the appeal is unsuccessful can they remain champions?
I don't think so.  I thought the replay decision wiped out the result.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Kidder81


take_yer_points

Touch of class from Glen, fair play. They come out of it with heads held high

Franko

#854
After the balls up on the day, this was the best way to handle it for all parties concerned.

Glen assessed that the chances of a win weren't high and that a defeat could derail another season for them.

But they had a point to make and they've now made it.

They now go into next season with the fire in the belly burning bright

They've also well and truly taken the moral high ground.

Kilmacud get to keep their cup

Croke Park avoids a massive handling.

Come June this whole episode will be forgotten.

As long as it's not forgotten to the extent that the rules around subs don't get changed.  Major tighten up needed.