Greatest player never to win an all Ireland

Started by seafoid, January 10, 2023, 12:33:31 PM

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Manning18

Quote from: thewobbler on January 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
To be honest I reckon Mayo of 2016, no AI winners among them, would take the best of the rest in a match.

They got beaten by a poor Galway side in Connacht that year, needed a dodgy penalty to get over Fermanagh in the qualifiers and then got the handiest available quarter and semi draw. I think some misconstrue some Dublin underperformance at times with opposition greatness. That 2016 drawn game was the worst Dublin performance of that 8 year stretch, including 2014.

2013 version of Mayo was by far their best imo. That was the one year they absolutely swatted everyone else aside in the way Dublin did year in year out

imtommygunn

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2023, 09:46:44 PM
John Galvin was a very good player

Beast of a man. Bettered dara O'Se several times. His predecessor quane, maybe overlapped a bit, was that kind of level too.

Gmac

Quote from: trailer on January 11, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Estimator on January 11, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
Breheny's List:
1.   Dermot Early
2.   Lee Keegan
3.   Mickey Kearins
4.   Nudie Hughes
5.   Glenn Ryan
6.   Kevin O'Brien
7.   Eugene McKenna
8.   Declan Browne
9.   Joe Kernan
10.   Mattie Forde
11.   John Galvin
12.   Paddy Moriarty
13.   Peter McGinnity
14.   Tony McManus
15.   Dessie Dolan
16.   Harry Keegan
17.   Liam McHale
18.   Keith Higgins
19.   Noel Roche
20.   Paul Barden
Though I'd have the likes of Benny Coulter, Barry Owens, Paddy Bradley, Enda Muldoon, Sean Lockhart before a good few men on that list.

Breheny is taking the piss himself me thinks.
some of them never got near a provincial medal never mind an all Ireland

Wildweasel74

I rather do greatest player by county, it show who in fans opinion were their greatest player to come out of, some of the weaker counties.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 11, 2023, 10:30:08 PM
Ain't got the forwards, hence why they didn't win a couple in the first place
The habit of conceding sloppy goals in each final was as unhelpful.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

whitey

Quote from: trailer on January 11, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Quote from: Estimator on January 11, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
Breheny's List:
1.   Dermot Early
2.   Lee Keegan
3.   Mickey Kearins
4.   Nudie Hughes
5.   Glenn Ryan
6.   Kevin O'Brien
7.   Eugene McKenna
8.   Declan Browne
9.   Joe Kernan
10.   Mattie Forde
11.   John Galvin
12.   Paddy Moriarty
13.   Peter McGinnity
14.   Tony McManus
15.   Dessie Dolan
16.   Harry Keegan
17.   Liam McHale
18.   Keith Higgins
19.   Noel Roche
20.   Paul Barden
Though I'd have the likes of Benny Coulter, Barry Owens, Paddy Bradley, Enda Muldoon, Sean Lockhart before a good few men on that list.

Breheny is taking the piss himself me thinks.

The difference with Keegan's is that, year in and year out for a decade he put it up to (and in most cases prevailed) against the best players on the best team the game has ever seen

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: thewobbler on January 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
To be honest I reckon Mayo of 2016, no AI winners among them, would take the best of the rest in a match.

In a semi final, sure. Not in a final though.

thewobbler

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 12, 2023, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
To be honest I reckon Mayo of 2016, no AI winners among them, would take the best of the rest in a match.

In a semi final, sure. Not in a final though.
Lol. I stand corrected and cannot issue a reply


Wildweasel74

In honesty in relation to Keegan I have him on my greatest team of all time along with Moyihan and McCarthy in the half back line. He just edges out Martin  O'Connell in the past year or 2, who I had as my No. 7. I know Keegan played alot, at 5, but Mccarthy got that position nailed (In front of 2 O'Se's).

Silver hill


trailer

Quote from: Silver hill on January 12, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 12, 2023, 10:28:24 AM
Tommy Conroy

Has an all star and and all ireland with Dublin in 83. 😉

There you are. I was gonna get caught out at some point.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 12, 2023, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
To be honest I reckon Mayo of 2016, no AI winners among them, would take the best of the rest in a match.

In a semi final, sure. Not in a final though.

If they called it a League final where they played the Best of the Rest.......they'd have a tiny bit better of a chance of winning!

Some groups are destined never to win, no matter how good they are.

The weight of sealing the deal gets bigger with every disappointment.

Rufus T Firefly

Quote from: seafoid on January 10, 2023, 12:33:31 PM
Lee Keegan has just retired so..

I think Keegan is a great shout for the best player never to win an All Ireland. He would be on my all time fifteen.

These threads always invite different suggestions, so for me, others to consider would include Paddy Moriarty, Anthony McGurk and Nudie Hughes - players who won All Stars as defenders and attackers. Also mention Frank McGuigan and the great Cork full back of the seventies, Kevin Kehilly. 

seafoid

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 12, 2023, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on January 12, 2023, 12:08:46 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 11, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
To be honest I reckon Mayo of 2016, no AI winners among them, would take the best of the rest in a match.

In a semi final, sure. Not in a final though.

If they called it a League final where they played the Best of the Rest.......they'd have a tiny bit better of a chance of winning!

Some groups are destined never to win, no matter how good they are.

The weight of sealing the deal gets bigger with every disappointment.
It has to happen if they get say 3 decent forwards