Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On

[sid waddell]

What's Jim at now? On reflection he totally lost the run of himself. Did well to get that role with Celtic but then wanted to get more into a coaching role for ground ball. Some ego on him to think he could go in at professional level soccer coaching having never played himself. He'd have been safer taking on a county role or sticking with the line of work he was employed for at Celtic.

He struck when the iron was hot, made some money, had some life experiences (possibly denied by his GAA playing days?).

I think you'll see him back soon, when Dublin show signs of slowing down he'll be cute enough to put his name forward.

Mcguinness record since Donegals win has very much Shown he was right person right place right time . He spotted that an all Ireland could be won by destroying the game and he go his Win but that a one off trick and people were on to him straight away  and the shameful 2013 exit is proof of that

2013 wasn't a failure of Donegal's tactics, it was a failure of motivation, the Donegal players were punch drunk

In 2014 they beat Dublin

McGuinness hasn't managed since

What McGuinness had apart from tactical know how is a messianic quality that made players believe, what Klopp has had over the last few years

Only the very best have that combination

Actually Donegal's decline in 2013 and Liverpool's decline now bear distinct similarities

Harte had that in 2003 but it waned over the years

Mick O'Dwyer had the messianic quality in spades but less of the tactical know as the years went by

If McGuinness came back to Gaelic football he might not have that same messianic quality

[skeog]

Jim has a large bank balance from his brief soccer travels.

[From the Bunker]

Jim has a large bank balance from his brief soccer travels.

You think?

[skeog]

China would be the big one.The Irish American who owned Charlotte has deep pockets so a substantial payoff would have happened.

[JimStynes]

Jim has a large bank balance from his brief soccer travels.

But is he happy   

[seafoid]

Jim is a very complex person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-5YC_oHjE

[ck]

McGuinness is holding out for another soccer job as he stated in a recent radio interview. He'll be lucky to get another role in soccer, even in League of Ireland or up north. I think most wouldn't touch him as he'll be seen as high risk.

Fair play to him I say given his colorful journey. He'll need to be getting back in to something fairly lively as he's been out a long time now.

[screenexile]

Listened to his interview with Joe Molloy and it sounds like something really wasn't right out in Carolina and that he has some kind of NDA to make sure he keeps his money.

He'll be able to defend himself for that and put his best foot forward in whatever interview he goes for I would think LoI or Irish League or something like that could work out for him.

[GetOverTheBar]

Listened to his interview with Joe Molloy and it sounds like something really wasn't right out in Carolina and that he has some kind of NDA to make sure he keeps his money.

He'll be able to defend himself for that and put his best foot forward in whatever interview he goes for I would think LoI or Irish League or something like that could work out for him.

That is par for the course in any professional sport when you get the road.

I reckon McGuiness would get a LOI job no bother if he wanted it, but there is still a few more branches to grab on the professional circuit before he goes to LOI surely - that's one that will always be there for him now, someone, somewhere will always take a gamble.

[Ed Ricketts]

Listened to his interview with Joe Molloy and it sounds like something really wasn't right out in Carolina and that he has some kind of NDA to make sure he keeps his money.

He'll be able to defend himself for that and put his best foot forward in whatever interview he goes for I would think LoI or Irish League or something like that could work out for him.

That is par for the course in any professional sport when you get the road.

I reckon McGuiness would get a LOI job no bother if he wanted it, but there is still a few more branches to grab on the professional circuit before he goes to LOI surely - that's one that will always be there for him now, someone, somewhere will always take a gamble.

Really? He's had one managerial job that lasted 15 games at a small club in a pretty low paid, semi-professional league that is, at very best, of a similar standard to the LOI.

And he made a complete balls of it.

Why would that experience land him a LOI job 'no bother'?

Just for additional reference, a larger team in the same division as Charlotte is managed by a Scottish fella called Stephen Glass. His previous job to that appointment was as an assistant coach in the LOI.

And that's before you even get into the suspicion and general enmity felt by many LOI types towards bogballers.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah I don't know why anyone would expect him to get a loi job. He should go back to doing what he knows and manage a Gaa team.

[screenexile]

Yeah I don't know why anyone would expect him to get a loi job. He should go back to doing what he knows and manage a Gaa team.

Would take him in the morning!!

[macker15]

Listened to his interview with Joe Molloy and it sounds like something really wasn't right out in Carolina and that he has some kind of NDA to make sure he keeps his money.

He'll be able to defend himself for that and put his best foot forward in whatever interview he goes for I would think LoI or Irish League or something like that could work out for him.

That is par for the course in any professional sport when you get the road.

I reckon McGuiness would get a LOI job no bother if he wanted it, but there is still a few more branches to grab on the professional circuit before he goes to LOI surely - that's one that will always be there for him now, someone, somewhere will always take a gamble.

Really? He's had one managerial job that lasted 15 games at a small club in a pretty low paid, semi-professional league that is, at very best, of a similar standard to the LOI.

And he made a complete balls of it.

Why would that experience land him a LOI job 'no bother'?

Just for additional reference, a larger team in the same division as Charlotte is managed by a Scottish fella called Stephen Glass. His previous job to that appointment was as an assistant coach in the LOI.

And that's before you even get into the suspicion and general enmity felt by many LOI types towards bogballers.

Stephen Glass that played with Newcastle Utd?

[macker15]

What's Jim at now? On reflection he totally lost the run of himself. Did well to get that role with Celtic but then wanted to get more into a coaching role for ground ball. Some ego on him to think he could go in at professional level soccer coaching having never played himself. He'd have been safer taking on a county role or sticking with the line of work he was employed for at Celtic.

He struck when the iron was hot, made some money, had some life experiences (possibly denied by his GAA playing days?).

I think you'll see him back soon, when Dublin show signs of slowing down he'll be cute enough to put his name forward.

Mcguinness record since Donegals win has very much Shown he was right person right place right time . He spotted that an all Ireland could be won by destroying the game and he go his Win but that a one off trick and people were on to him straight away  and the shameful 2013 exit is proof of that

2013 wasn't a failure of Donegal's tactics, it was a failure of motivation, the Donegal players were punch drunk

In 2014 they beat Dublin

McGuinness hasn't managed since

What McGuinness had apart from tactical know how is a messianic quality that made players believe, what Klopp has had over the last few years

Only the very best have that combination

Actually Donegal's decline in 2013 and Liverpool's decline now bear distinct similarities

Harte had that in 2003 but it waned over the years

Mick O'Dwyer had the messianic quality in spades but less of the tactical know as the years went by

If McGuinness came back to Gaelic football he might not have that same messianic quality

Was Rory Gallagher still a selector in 2013?

[sid waddell]

What's Jim at now? On reflection he totally lost the run of himself. Did well to get that role with Celtic but then wanted to get more into a coaching role for ground ball. Some ego on him to think he could go in at professional level soccer coaching having never played himself. He'd have been safer taking on a county role or sticking with the line of work he was employed for at Celtic.

He struck when the iron was hot, made some money, had some life experiences (possibly denied by his GAA playing days?).

I think you'll see him back soon, when Dublin show signs of slowing down he'll be cute enough to put his name forward.

Mcguinness record since Donegals win has very much Shown he was right person right place right time . He spotted that an all Ireland could be won by destroying the game and he go his Win but that a one off trick and people were on to him straight away  and the shameful 2013 exit is proof of that

2013 wasn't a failure of Donegal's tactics, it was a failure of motivation, the Donegal players were punch drunk

In 2014 they beat Dublin

McGuinness hasn't managed since

What McGuinness had apart from tactical know how is a messianic quality that made players believe, what Klopp has had over the last few years

Only the very best have that combination

Actually Donegal's decline in 2013 and Liverpool's decline now bear distinct similarities

Harte had that in 2003 but it waned over the years

Mick O'Dwyer had the messianic quality in spades but less of the tactical know as the years went by

If McGuinness came back to Gaelic football he might not have that same messianic quality

Was Rory Gallagher still a selector in 2013?

He was, not in 2014 though

Came back as manager in 2015

McGuinness was the brains of the operation