Can someone please explain Club Football in Kerry. How many Clubs what leagues and Championships they play in and of coarse how can the Clifford's play for a Junior club and play county football. In most counties a Junior club player would not get a look in at county level. I ask several people this and no one can explain it. Finally I think the Gaa should say a big thank you to David Clifford just look at the crowds that came out to see him play for his club in dreadful weather over the last few weeks.
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Quote from: mad tan on January 17, 2023, 07:07:28 PM
Can someone please explain Club Football in Kerry. How many Clubs what leagues and Championships they play in and of coarse how can the Clifford's play for a Junior club and play county football. In most counties a Junior club player would not get a look in at county level. I ask several people this and no one can explain it. Finally I think the Gaa should say a big thank you to David Clifford just look at the crowds that came out to see him play for his club in dreadful weather over the last few weeks.
Kerry has clubs and Divisional or amalgamated teams. Clifford plays for his club Fossa at junior level and for I think East Kerry divisional side who won the County championship this year.
I take it O'Neill and Dooher won the JFC in Tyrone too?
Quote from: mad tan on January 17, 2023, 07:07:28 PM
Can someone please explain Club Football in Kerry. How many Clubs what leagues and Championships they play in and of coarse how can the Clifford's play for a Junior club and play county football. In most counties a Junior club player would not get a look in at county level. I ask several people this and no one can explain it. Finally I think the Gaa should say a big thank you to David Clifford just look at the crowds that came out to see him play for his club in dreadful weather over the last few weeks.
Why wouldnt a junior player get a look in? He would have came to the attention of county management from his underage exploits he was always going to be a star.
Is the divisional system a bit like having a railway cup at county level.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 17, 2023, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: mad tan on January 17, 2023, 07:07:28 PM
Can someone please explain Club Football in Kerry. How many Clubs what leagues and Championships they play in and of coarse how can the Clifford's play for a Junior club and play county football. In most counties a Junior club player would not get a look in at county level. I ask several people this and no one can explain it. Finally I think the Gaa should say a big thank you to David Clifford just look at the crowds that came out to see him play for his club in dreadful weather over the last few weeks.
Why wouldnt a junior player get a look in? He would have came to the attention of county management from his underage exploits he was always going to be a star.
is not the place where you live determine what club you play for if your a superstar player but live in a junior club area then you play for them.
Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2023, 06:41:45 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 17, 2023, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: mad tan on January 17, 2023, 07:07:28 PM
Can someone please explain Club Football in Kerry. How many Clubs what leagues and Championships they play in and of coarse how can the Clifford's play for a Junior club and play county football. In most counties a Junior club player would not get a look in at county level. I ask several people this and no one can explain it. Finally I think the Gaa should say a big thank you to David Clifford just look at the crowds that came out to see him play for his club in dreadful weather over the last few weeks.
Why wouldnt a junior player get a look in? He would have came to the attention of county management from his underage exploits he was always going to be a star.
is not the place where you live determine what club you play for if your a superstar player but live in a junior club area then you play for them.
Obviously. Don't know about other counties but in Armagh every club can send forward lads every year to county academy teams from i think u14 or u15 up. Doesnt matter what club you're from.
But back in the oul days County "selectors" barely knew some Junior Clubs existed.
The Kerry system meant good lads were able to play at a higher level and become known.
With near 40 Senior AIs they must be doing something right.
Also between League, Club Championship, County Championship and Regional Championship Kerry players play loads of games every year.
Meanwhile we had 6 team League Divisions.....
Fun Fact for the day re. Kerry County Championship : (I'm fairly sure this is correct)
The Kilgarvan Club are historically part of the 'Kenmare District' amalgamation that historically played in the county championship with Kenmare Shamrocks, Templenoe & Tuosist.
However as both clubs, Kenmare Shamrocks & Templenoe are currently in the county championship , the much weakened Kenmare District team withdrew from the county championship and so the 2 clubs Kilgarvan & Tuosist are in with the East Kerry Team.
So in theory ... if Kenmare Shamrocks or Templenoe are to be relegated from county championship next year (to cause Kenmare District to reenter) and Kilgarvan to be promoted over the next 2 years from Junior to Intermediate to senior (highly unlikely i realise -Templenoe did it over 5 years) .. a player from Kilgarvan could play for 3 different teams in the Kerry County Championship in 3 years and never move club
Year 1 East Kerry
Year 2 Kenmare District
Year 3 Kilgarvan
Quote from: Rossfan on January 18, 2023, 09:17:30 AM
But back in the oul days County "selectors" barely knew some Junior Clubs existed.
The Kerry system meant good lads were able to play at a higher level and become known.
With near 40 Senior AIs they must be doing something right.
Also between League, Club Championship, County Championship and Regional Championship Kerry players play loads of games every year.
Meanwhile we had 6 team League Divisions.....
I think its a brilliant idea to give better lads from weaker clubs a chance to play at a higher level, have definitely discussed it with Armagh men before and something s lot of people would like to see tried up here. It would take some getting used to though putting rivalries aside to play together. I know theres plenty of lads with loads of ability playing junior football here that could probably develop themselves to a far better level if they got the chance to play a better standard of football.
Only issue i have with Kerrys system as I've said numerous times in the other thread is that they shouldnt have the 9th best team in the county pretending they are intermediate.
We had a sort of a Divisions Championship this year, only 2 teams and the Final was played in Prenty's fkn bubble for some reason.
This year it's hoped to have 4 Divisional teams (picked from Junior and Inter Clubs) who will form a group in the SFC giving us 4 groups of 4.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 10:03:41 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 18, 2023, 09:17:30 AM
But back in the oul days County "selectors" barely knew some Junior Clubs existed.
The Kerry system meant good lads were able to play at a higher level and become known.
With near 40 Senior AIs they must be doing something right.
Also between League, Club Championship, County Championship and Regional Championship Kerry players play loads of games every year.
Meanwhile we had 6 team League Divisions.....
I think its a brilliant idea to give better lads from weaker clubs a chance to play at a higher level, have definitely discussed it with Armagh men before and something s lot of people would like to see tried up here. It would take some getting used to though putting rivalries aside to play together. I know theres plenty of lads with loads of ability playing junior football here that could probably develop themselves to a far better level if they got the chance to play a better standard of football.
Only issue i have with Kerrys system as I've said numerous times in the other thread is that they shouldnt have the 9th best team in the county pretending they are intermediate.
16 clubs plus the 8 divisional sides would be the way to go.
How does it work for training, ie. How often would a divisional player train with his divisional team vs his club team?
Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! ;D
One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.
The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.
If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 18, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! ;D
One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.
The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.
If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.
All I want to ask is how the feck ye get the time lol. Better than the system here though where theres only 14 league games and then straight knockout championship. Lot of training for little amount of games. Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.
So timeline roughly would be along the lines of:
Late Jan/Early Feb: Divisional leagues start - usually 4/5 games done before County league start and finals played before Summer
Around Paddys day: County league starts. 11 games up to Autumn. 3 up/3 down each division.
Senior/Intermediate club/Junior club championships: Round robin games start April and played off in a month. Semis/Finals on hold until Kerry finish.
County Senior Championship: Starts after Kerry finish. Ran off in 6 weeks or so usually.
Divisional championships: Start in October in my part of the world, earlier possibly elsewhere. North Kerry finals would reguarly be on Stephens day or around Christmas. There would be 3000+ at these finals too most years. Huge interest locally.
Not much of break for lads!
I think every county championship should be straight knockout for counties with less than 16 teams you could use league positions to get byes or seeds so league becomes meaningful.
Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
I think every county championship should be straight knockout for counties with less than 16 teams you could use league positions to get byes or seeds so league becomes meaningful.
Yes , fewer games of significance , that's exactly what players want.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 18, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! ;D
One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.
The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.
If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.
What is the difference between Junior and Premier Junior (and which one did Fossa win
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 12:09:42 PM
Not much of break for lads!
Break? If you give lads a break they'll find another sport to play! People love playing games.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.
I think with the split-season every county would benefit from breaking the link between league and championship in terms of the issue of missing county players and scheduling.
The league affecting the championship seems to cause a lot of problems to no great benefit in those counties where it is in operation.
With so many counties getting so many intercounty championship games under the new intercounty structure, there is likely to be a good stretch of time when intercounty players are unavailable to their club especially at a time of year when conditions are perfect for football.
It's not like the old days when the championship was straight knock-out and half the 16 counties has one championsip game and 8 had two.
I think the league/championship link has more negatives than positives nowadays.
You might need to restructure county leagues in terms of size of divisions/increase the number of relegated/promoted teams to avoid dead rubbers at the end and add a relegation structure to the championships but that's a fairly easy fix overall.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 18, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! ;D
One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.
The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior, Novice ), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.
If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.
All I want to ask is how the feck ye get the time lol. Better than the system here though where theres only 14 league games and then straight knockout championship. Lot of training for little amount of games. Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.
you forgot the Novice Championship ( easy done in fairness)
Quote from: shark on January 18, 2023, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
I think every county championship should be straight knockout for counties with less than 16 teams you could use league positions to get byes or seeds so league becomes meaningful.
Yes , fewer games of significance , that's exactly what players want.
From experience round robin championship games are shite. Play more league games surely but nothing beats the buzz of knock out football.
Quote from: twohands!!! on January 18, 2023, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.
I think with the split-season every county would benefit from breaking the link between league and championship in terms of the issue of missing county players and scheduling.
The league affecting the championship seems to cause a lot of problems to no great benefit in those counties where it is in operation.
With so many counties getting so many intercounty championship games under the new intercounty structure, there is likely to be a good stretch of time when intercounty players are unavailable to their club especially at a time of year when conditions are perfect for football.
It's not like the old days when the championship was straight knock-out and half the 16 counties has one championsip game and 8 had two.
I think the league/championship link has more negatives than positives nowadays.
You might need to restructure county leagues in terms of size of divisions/increase the number of relegated/promoted teams to avoid dead rubbers at the end and add a relegation structure to the championships but that's a fairly easy fix overall.
Works really well in Armagh although I do take your point re not having county men available. I know locally it has affected Forkhill who ended up in junior football while they had 3 lads on the county team although they won the championship in 2020. Same has happened Cullyhanna relegated to intermediate last year after not having their 3 county men for most of the league.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: shark on January 18, 2023, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
I think every county championship should be straight knockout for counties with less than 16 teams you could use league positions to get byes or seeds so league becomes meaningful.
Yes , fewer games of significance , that's exactly what players want.
From experience round robin championship games are shite. Play more league games surely but nothing beats the buzz of knock out football.
Not much "buzz" for the 50% of players who only get one game.
All Counties have knock out Championship from Quarter Finals on.
Having Groups first helps to avoid one sided hammerings in the knock out.
Having Club Leagues deciding Championsip status seems a particular peculiarity up North*.
It's can hardly continue now with County lads nit available for League games.
* A version of this is now employed in the Inter County scene.
Ciarrai_thuaidh Can I ask how are the divisional teams managed? Do the club teams send people forward for selection? Or does management do the selecting from the available club panels? Would there be many rows over players not selected?
This was tried in Antrim hurling. Didn't really have legs and wouldn't be an easy thing to make work.
Quote from: Dabh on January 18, 2023, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 18, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! ;D
One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.
The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior, Novice ), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.
If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.
All I want to ask is how the feck ye get the time lol. Better than the system here though where theres only 14 league games and then straight knockout championship. Lot of training for little amount of games. Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.
you forgot the Novice Championship ( easy done in fairness)
No I didn't, you just didn't do your research!
Novice was renamed 2/3 years ago to Junior. Grades are as I posted.
Quote from: Rossfan on January 18, 2023, 06:47:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: shark on January 18, 2023, 01:25:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on January 18, 2023, 12:45:57 PM
I think every county championship should be straight knockout for counties with less than 16 teams you could use league positions to get byes or seeds so league becomes meaningful.
Yes , fewer games of significance , that's exactly what players want.
From experience round robin championship games are shite. Play more league games surely but nothing beats the buzz of knock out football.
Not much "buzz" for the 50% of players who only get one game.
All Counties have knock out Championship from Quarter Finals on.
Having Groups first helps to avoid one sided hammerings in the knock out.
Having Club Leagues deciding Championsip status seems a particular peculiarity up North*.
It's can hardly continue now with County lads nit available for League games.
* A version of this is now employed in the Inter County scene.
Works for us and Tyrone, all round exciting championships. Speaking from experience I've never liked bsck doors or round robins just dont think it is championship football
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2023, 06:53:01 PM
Ciarrai_thuaidh Can I ask how are the divisional teams managed? Do the club teams send people forward for selection? Or does management do the selecting from the available club panels? Would there be many rows over players not selected?
Looked at same way as a strong club team in most cases. Take South Kerry for example, a very strong divisional team with a strong tradition of winning championships. They've had external coaches/managers a good bit. William Harmon who managed Rahillys most recently. Paudie Kissane from Cork who is a good coach/S&C mix was involved a few years ago. The South Kerry board would be well run and organised though. Not all divisions are.
In a lot of divisions they just pick someone from the constituent clubs but usually with a fair balance of selectors - otherwise it just goes to sh*t!
My own part of the county, North Kerry has had a shocking record in SFC over the last 40 odd years. From an era when we had unbelievably strong teams in the 70s and even early 80s - Shannon Rangers and Feale Rangers contested the 1977 final - to no title being won from 1980 to 2007 and only 1 appearance in a final between 1985 and 2007 when Feale Rangers won one. Since 2007 it's been largely similar. Shannon Rangers got things going well for about 2/3 years and reached a Semi in 2014 I think it was. Feale Rangers got to the semi last year but otherwise it's been poor effort, poor organisation, poor performances.
By the way in case anybody's interested, Shannon Rangers is a combo of Beale, Ballyduff, Ballydonoghue, Ballylongford, Tarbert and Asdee.
Feale Rangers is a combo of Listowel Emmets, Finuge, Duagh, Moyvane, St Senans. Those are the main teams in the area. There are 3 teams in North Kerry district (Desmonds, Brosnan and Duagh)who play with St Kierans in the Senior championship to complicate things. St Kierans is basically Castleisland (Desmonds) and surrounding Parishes.
Anyway, Feale and Shannon Rangers were performing so poorly and standing no chance of competing with the likes of East Kerry (who have been utterly dominating Minor for a few years and having disproportionate representation on Kerry squads) so they decided last year to amalgamate and form one North Kerry team and enter just the underage championships to see how it went. There's actually been a good bit of work done behind the scenes on football in the area in schools as there were the odd county player being produced (Jason Foley, Shane Enright, Anthony Maher for example) but not enough guys making the grade and no games being won in county championship.
As it turns out North Kerry won the Minor, lost the U21 by 1 to a star-studded East Kerry and competed well in U15. So while I was against it as it meant less players got the opportunity to play at County Championship level and the coaching and structures being worked on could have been a mid to long term solution - I suppose it has justified itself in a way and now there's 5/6 guys in with a shout of playing Minor or U20 who wouldn't have been.
Anyway, don't know why I said half of that. Bit of a tangent sorry.
Basically the divisional thing is great in so many ways - but in divisions where the structure is gone stale or weak and no work is being done it can lead to very lean and unproductive periods. It's down to the people in the different areas, the strength of schools and underage etc. Right now the East Kerry and Killarney area is massively dominant. Schools like St Brendans, Social Sliabh Luachra (Rathmore) are playing top level. Crokes, Spa, Legion, Rathmore, Glenflesk, Firies, Kilcummin are are all very strong clubs at underage or adult or both..Fossa are coming now aswell. They all feed into East Kerry underage a lot of years except Crokes are almost always on their own. So it's a bit imbalanced.
But all that being said - the divisions just add hugely to the whole level of competition out there. Some of the most memorable games in Kerry in my lifetime involved divisional teams. Laune Rangers and East Kerry played 2/3 times in the late 90s and they were titanic battles. That East Kerry team won 3 in a row and were the springboard for the Kerry careers of Johnny Crowley and Tom O'Sullivan (Rathmore). Then you had the Crokes v South Kerry battles in the 2000s and they were fairly epic aswell. Some of the Minor and U21 games I've seen have been brilliant aswell. Without them it would just be the big clubs like Crokes and Stacks dominating and probably getting more onto Kerry panels aswell, but this way the country boys from all corners get a fair shot. It's why a Declan O'Sullivan (Dromid), Jason Foley (Ballydonoghue), Anthony Maher (Duagh), Killian Young (Renard) - all players from very lowly clubs most of the time - can make it with Kerry I think.
Anyway, end of essay..
Seen this on the Armagh forum so thought I'd copy it over here to see if others think it's a good idea or not. Realistically there probably isn't an appetite to make it happen in Armagh, but it would be an interesting championship for sure.
Long post here, so please bear with me.
As has been discussed in many counties over the years, why don't we adopt the Kerry system of 'regional' teams for a county championship? Individual clubs would still compete in their club championships, but a new system would mean that every player in the county could aspire to competing for the county championship every year.
Let's look at how this might look in Armagh (I'll be using the 2022 leagues to illustrate the point).
First of all, we'd have 8 'Senior' clubs - These 8 would compete in the senior 'county' championship against 'regional' teams as well as competing in the senior 'club' championship too. The winner of the 'county' championship would represent us in Ulster , unless a regional team wins it. If that was the cse then the winner of the senior club championship would go forward into Ulster.
Below Senior we'd then have intermediate, Junior A, B (could go further and have a junior C if necessary). This would increase our competitiveness at Ulster club level also.
The leagues and 'club' championships would look like this;
SENIOR
Crossmaglen
Clann Eireann
Dromintee
Killeavy
Armagh Harps
Maghery
Madden
Granemore
INTERMEDIATE
Ballymacnab
Cullyhanna
Silverbridge
Mullabawn
Pearse Og
Sarsfields
Clan na Gael
Grange
Shane O'Neill's
Carrickcruppen
Tullysaran
St Peter's
St Paul's
Wolfe Tones
Annaghmore
JUNIOR A
Belleek
Whitecross
Culloville
Ballyhegan
Clonmore
Tir na nog
Forkhill
Collegeland
Keady
Cross II
Derrynoose
Middletown
Eire Og
Newtownhamilton
Dorsey
Lissummon
Junior B
Killeavy II
Corrinshego
An Port Mor
O'Hanlon's
Clady
Mullabrack
Beyond this we'd then have our 'county' championship.
REGIONS - COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP (clubs in BLOCK CAPITALS would compete on their own in the county championship unless relegated - when relegated they'd join their regional side the following season - for example, Dromintee next year would fall back into their regional side, Ballymacnab would be going up to competing on their own)
1. SOUTH ARMAGH EAST (cruppen, shanes, corrinshego, whitecross, lissummon, o'hanlons, belleek) KILLEAVY, DROMINTEE
2. SOUTH ARMAGH WEST (Newtownhamilton, Dorsey, Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Cullaville, Mullabawn, Forkhill) CROSSMAGLEN
3. MID ARMAGH WEST (Clady, Ballymacnab, Keady, Derrynoose, Middletown) MADDEN, GRANEMORE
4. MID ARMAGH CENTRAL (Pearse Og, An Port Mor, Tullysaran, Grange, Mullabrack) HARPS
5. NORTH ARMAGH COUNTRY (Annaghmore, Clonmore, Collegeland, Wolfe Tones, Sarsfields, Ballyhegan) MAGHERY
6. NORTH ARMAGH TOWN (St Peter's, St Paul's, Clan na Gael, Tir na nog, Eire Og) CLANN EIREANN
This is just a rough example of how it might work, I'm sure there are better minds than mine who could refine this even further. Thoughts?
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 18, 2023, 09:08:46 PM
Quote from: Dabh on January 18, 2023, 02:06:29 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on January 18, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
Someone needs to do a mini series or documentary on the Kerry club football structure at this stage!! ;D
One of the old threads from 2019 had plenty good explanation on it in fairness.
The main by products of the whole thing that stand out to me are
1.Every club player in the county, regardless of level, gets a chance to play in County Senior championship and
2.Average Kerry club player gets a guaranteed 20 games a year due to the structure. County league (taken seriously), County club championship (Senior, Intermediate, Premier Junior, Junior, Novice ), County Senior championship, Divisional leagues (North Kerry league, south Kerry league etc), Divisional championships - played at end of year.
If anyone wants to ask anything about it work away and I'll do my best though.
All I want to ask is how the feck ye get the time lol. Better than the system here though where theres only 14 league games and then straight knockout championship. Lot of training for little amount of games. Although the leagues are very competitive and taken seriously for the most part, as they are linked to following years championship. only 8 teams in the division means less dead rubbers towards the end.
you forgot the Novice Championship ( easy done in fairness)
No I didn't, you just didn't do your research!
Novice was renamed 2/3 years ago to Junior. Grades are as I posted.
You sure?
https://www.kerrygaa.ie/kilgarvan-are-novice-champions/