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Vindication for Ron DeSantis
The media vilified him for rejecting harsh lockdowns. But Florida's Covid-19 numbers are better than California's or New York's, and its economy thrives.
By  Allysia Finley
March 5, 2021 6:25 pm ET
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks at a Covid-19 testing site in Miami Gardens, Fla., Jan. 6.
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In the early months of the coronavirus pandemic, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo imposed strict lockdown policies—many still in place—and became the media's golden boy. "The governor of New York's morning news conferences have become part of the country's new daily rhythm," the Washington Post's Style section gushed in March 2020. "He's the strongman who can admit he's wrong. He speaks fluently about the facts. He worries about his mother, and by extension, yours, too."

Gov. Ron DeSantis took a different approach and was pilloried. He was among the first to lift his state lockdown, adopting something resembling Sweden's strategy of protecting the vulnerable while keeping businesses and schools open. "Florida Man Leads His State to the Morgue," read a June headline in the New Republic. "Ron DeSantis is the latest in a long line of Republicans who made the state a plutocratic dystopia. Now he's letting its residents die to save the plutocrats."

A year after the virus hit the U.S., Mr. Cuomo's luster has faded, and Mr. DeSantis can claim vindication. The Sunshine State appears to have weathered the pandemic better than others like New York and California, which stayed locked down harder and longer.


Mortality data bear out this conclusion. The Covid death risk increases enormously with each decade of age. More than 80% of Covid deaths in the U.S. have occurred among seniors over 65. They make up a larger share of Florida's population than any other state except Maine. Based on demographics, Florida's per-capita Covid death rate would be expected to be one of the highest in the country.

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Nope. Florida's death rate is in the middle of the pack and only slightly higher than in California, which has a much younger population. Florida's death rate among seniors is about 20% lower than California's and 50% lower than New York's, based on Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.

Several Democratic governors, including Mr. Cuomo and New Jersey's Phil Murphy, early in the pandemic required nursing homes to accept Covid patients discharged from hospitals, though many were short-staffed and unable to care for them properly. The New York investigation by Attorney General Letitia James estimated that the state's nursing home deaths were 50% higher than Mr. Cuomo's official figures, though it's impossible to know how many deaths his order caused. The Journal reported Thursday that Mr. Cuomo's aides rewrote a report by state health officials in June to omit the number of New York nursing-home residents who'd died in hospitals during the pandemic.


Mr. DeSantis took a smarter approach. His administration halted outside visitations to nursing homes and bolstered their stockpile of personal protective equipment. Florida's government also set up 23 Covid-dedicated nursing centers for elderly patients discharged from hospitals. Nursing-home residents who tested positive and couldn't be isolated in their facilities were sent to these Covid-only wards. Florida set up field hospitals to handle a surge in cases that models predicted in the spring, although it never materialized.

"Those models about hospital overcrowding never even came close to bearing out, even in New York," Mr. DeSantis says in an interview. "Some of those policies that were done in these other states, they really were motivated by those models. And those models did do a lot of damage."

Like most governors, Mr. DeSantis shut down most businesses when President Trump issued guidelines for a national lockdown on March 16. "We did the 15 days to slow the spread," Mr. DeSantis says. The governor kept restrictions on "nonessential" businesses for several more weeks, but he let more places stay open than other states, including child-care facilities, construction sites, hotels and beaches. National media published photos of crowded Florida beaches. "DeSantis in Florida let everybody go crazy over spring break," CNN's Chris Cuomo, the New York governor's brother, said in June. "He then exported all that virus back to wherever—wherever they wanted to go, OK?"

But Florida's infection rate during April stayed on par with California, where most beaches and residential construction were restricted. "I was not convinced that a lot of those [lockdown] policies were making a huge difference as data came in," Mr. DeSantis says.

Florida began a phased reopening in early May, allowing restaurants, barbershops, nail salons, gyms and other retailers to operate initially at 50% capacity provided they follow social-distancing and sanitary protocols. Bars and pubs were later allowed to open at 50% capacity, and limits for other businesses were increased.

Mr. DeSantis also let theme parks—important Florida employers and tourist attractions—reopen at reduced capacity. SeaWorld Orlando and Universal Studios reopened in June. "Disney World took a little longer, but that was just because of their [own] business decisions." California's government still hasn't allowed the Disneyland or Universal Studios theme parks to reopen.

Florida's cases started climbing in June as people socialized more, including at graduation parties, summer cookouts and on Father's Day. Experts and the media castigated the governor for reopening too fast and too soon. "Despite the guidelines and the recommendations to open up carefully and prudently, some states skipped over those and just opened up too quickly," the National Institutes of Health's Anthony Fauci said in July. "Certainly Florida I know, you know, I think jumped over a couple of checkpoints."


But cases spiked across the Sun Belt, including in California, which maintained much stricter business restrictions. Still, political pressure intensified on Mr. DeSantis to shut down his state again. He refused. "I'm like, 'No, we're not going to lock down. It doesn't work. It compounds problems,' " he says. The virus is not "going to be governed by simply closing someone's business, or not letting people go to work."

Mr. DeSantis says he listened to a different cast of experts such as Stanford's Jay Bhattacharya, Harvard's Martin Kulldorff and Oxford's Carl Heneghan and Sunetra Gupta. Instead of shutting down businesses in the summer, he ordered more-frequent testing for nursing-home workers and deployed more personnel to hard-hit hospitals. In late July, cases in Florida and across the Sun Belt began to fall.

In September Mr. DeSantis lifted capacity restrictions on restaurants and bars. He also overrode local jurisdictions that tried to keep them closed. "We said every business has the right to operate; you cannot close anything. Everyone has the right to work. You have to let people earn a living," he says. Mr. DeSantis also required local school districts to offer in-person instruction five days a week in the fall, though parents could choose remote learning instead. "The union sued us, but we beat them in court."

Teachers unions in large school districts in California, meanwhile, have refused to return to classrooms. They claim schools are unsafe. But per capita Covid cases among children are about the same in Florida and California.

When cases began to rise again in the fall, Democratic governors like Mr. Cuomo and California's Gavin Newsom tightened business shutdowns and even sought to limit Thanksgiving gatherings to 10 people. Mr. Cuomo griped that police weren't strictly enforcing his household limits.

The fall and winter lockdowns don't appear to have made any difference in the virus spread. Between Nov. 1 and Feb. 28, there were 5.8 new cases per 100 people in New York, 6.4 in California, and only 5 in Florida, where businesses could stay open at full capacity. But the economic impact of the lockdowns has been enormous.

Employment declined by 4.6% in Florida in 2020, compared with 8% in California and 10.4% in New York. Leisure and hospitality jobs fell 15% in Florida, vs. 30% in California and 39% in New York.


Florida's freedom has drawn people and economic activity to the state. It ranked third among "U-Haul Migration Growth States" for one-way rentals. While travel is still lower than it was last year, several airlines including Southwest, Spirit and United have added direct flights to Florida this winter. "The addition of these new flights represents United's largest expansion of point-to-point, non-hub flying and reflects our data driven approach to add capacity where customers are telling us they want to go," said Ankit Gupta, the airline's vice president in charge of domestic scheduling.

The state "had an acceleration of some of the business migration that we've seen, particularly in finance," Mr. DeSantis says. The Hedge Fund Association hosted a webinar last month titled "Capitalizing on South Florida," highlighting investment firms that had moved to the region.

Mr. DeSantis's administration counts at least 35 large businesses that have moved to the state since the pandemic began. According to Census Bureau data, Florida's per capita business formation between April 2020 and January 2021 was twice as high as California's and 75% higher than New York's.

Florida's economy shrank only 3.7% in the third quarter of 2020 from the fourth quarter in 2019, according to data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, compared with 4.9% for California and 8% for New York. The latter states probably took even bigger economic hits in the fourth quarter when they shut down.

As for tourism, Mr. DeSantis says "the Panhandle had their best summer and best year ever," thanks to family road trips from nearby states. Orlando has been somewhat slower to bounce back because it relies more on foreign visitors, and international travel has been almost entirely shut down.

Real estate across the state is booming. Home sales increased 20% in the last six months of 2020 year over year, while the median sales price rose 14.4%. Construction wages and salaries during the third quarter were 3.2% higher in Florida year over year but 4.8% lower in California and 9.3% lower in New York. "When you talk to home builders, what they'll tell me is they've had the best year," Mr. DeSantis says. "They've noticed more [people moving] from California than they ever have."

The lesson of Florida's Covid success story, according to the governor: "We've shown people that you can have a good time, you can be safe, and you can make the decision that's best for you." What has Andrew Cuomo learned?

[whitey]

Amazing how the media can spin a narrative based on nothing and people actually believe it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/02/coronavirus-governors-2024-election-160125

[Seamus]

f**king hell, even the PCR test is a conspiracy.

Funny how everything you don't believe in happens to be a conspiracy theory. Small wonder you did not loosely add in the "paranoid" word.  The resort of indoctrinated zombies.

From WHO themselves:

"The results of the PCR Test applied to SARS-2 are blatantly flawed. Drosten et al recommended the use of a 45 amplification threshold cycle (Ct), which was endorsed by the WHO in January 2020.

According to Pieter Borger, et al

The number of amplification cycles [should be] less than 35; preferably 25-30 cycles. In case of virus detection, >35 cycles only detects signals which do not correlate with infectious virus as determined by isolation in cell culture...(Critique of Drosten Study)

The WHO's RT-PCR "Retraction" (January 20, 2021)

The RT-PCR test was adopted by the WHO on January 23, 2020, following the recommendations of  the Drosten study quoted above.

One year later on January 20th, 2021, the WHO came out with the admission that the PCR test will yield biased results if they are conducted above a certain cycle threshold used for amplification. Below is the text of the WHO's "retraction":

WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient's viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.

What this admission of the WHO confirms is that most of the estimates of covid positive under the so-called "Second Wave" (with amplification cycles in excess of 35) are invalid, which means that the lockdown / economic measures which have resulted in social panic, mass poverty and unemployment (allegedly to curtail the spread of the virus) have no justification whatsoever.

Moreover, the WHO is calling for retesting: "a new specimen should be taken and retested...". That recommendation is pro-forma. I won't happen. (It is there to sustain the legitimacy of the WHO). Millions of people Worldwide have already been tested:

"if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the case in most laboratories in Europe & the US), the probability that said person is actually infected is less than 3%, the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%  (Pieter Borger, Bobby Rajesh Malhotra, Michael Yeadon, Clare Craig, Kevin McKernan, et al, Critique of Drosten Study)

At the time of writing (Second Wave) the test is being used extensively to hike up the numbers with a view to justifying a partial lockdown with devastating social and economic impacts including the engineered bankruptcy of tourism, air travel and the urban services economy.

Both the WHO and the scientific assessments (quoted above) confirm unequivocally that the tests adopted by governments to justify the destabilization of their national economy are TOTALLY INVALID. Moreover, those PCR tests are not routinely accompanied by a medical diagnosis of the patients who are being tested".

Complete article
https://web.archive.org/web/20210213014002/https://www.globalresearch.ca/clinical-lab-scientist-covid-19-fake-wake-up-america/5737013

[trueblue1234]

Is that Pieter Borger, the creationist guy who thinks evolution is a myth?

[J70]

f**king hell, even the PCR test is a conspiracy.

Funny how everything you don't believe in happens to be a conspiracy theory. Small wonder you did not loosely add in the "paranoid" word.  The resort of indoctrinated zombies.

From WHO themselves:

"The results of the PCR Test applied to SARS-2 are blatantly flawed. Drosten et al recommended the use of a 45 amplification threshold cycle (Ct), which was endorsed by the WHO in January 2020.

According to Pieter Borger, et al

The number of amplification cycles [should be] less than 35; preferably 25-30 cycles. In case of virus detection, >35 cycles only detects signals which do not correlate with infectious virus as determined by isolation in cell culture...(Critique of Drosten Study)

The WHO's RT-PCR "Retraction" (January 20, 2021)

The RT-PCR test was adopted by the WHO on January 23, 2020, following the recommendations of  the Drosten study quoted above.

One year later on January 20th, 2021, the WHO came out with the admission that the PCR test will yield biased results if they are conducted above a certain cycle threshold used for amplification. Below is the text of the WHO's "retraction":

WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient's viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology.

What this admission of the WHO confirms is that most of the estimates of covid positive under the so-called "Second Wave" (with amplification cycles in excess of 35) are invalid, which means that the lockdown / economic measures which have resulted in social panic, mass poverty and unemployment (allegedly to curtail the spread of the virus) have no justification whatsoever.

Moreover, the WHO is calling for retesting: "a new specimen should be taken and retested...". That recommendation is pro-forma. I won't happen. (It is there to sustain the legitimacy of the WHO). Millions of people Worldwide have already been tested:

"if someone is tested by PCR as positive when a threshold of 35 cycles or higher is used (as is the case in most laboratories in Europe & the US), the probability that said person is actually infected is less than 3%, the probability that said result is a false positive is 97%  (Pieter Borger, Bobby Rajesh Malhotra, Michael Yeadon, Clare Craig, Kevin McKernan, et al, Critique of Drosten Study)

At the time of writing (Second Wave) the test is being used extensively to hike up the numbers with a view to justifying a partial lockdown with devastating social and economic impacts including the engineered bankruptcy of tourism, air travel and the urban services economy.

Both the WHO and the scientific assessments (quoted above) confirm unequivocally that the tests adopted by governments to justify the destabilization of their national economy are TOTALLY INVALID. Moreover, those PCR tests are not routinely accompanied by a medical diagnosis of the patients who are being tested".

Complete article
https://web.archive.org/web/20210213014002/https://www.globalresearch.ca/clinical-lab-scientist-covid-19-fake-wake-up-america/5737013

Many people would look at the CT issue as possibly over-sensitive, in that once you get to 37 cycles, or more in some versions of the test, you may be calling people positive based on very low viral loads.

However, they would also understand that given the fact that you can't be testing people every couple of days, what's the alternative? By definition, you're going to have a low viral load early in your infection, before you develop a high viral load and become increasingly infectious and, in some, symptomatic. I guess we could just ignore asymptotic transmission and restrict testing to symptomatic individuals, but I'm guessing most would prefer to err on the side of caution in a novel global pandemic (and yeah, I see from your references, including creationists and astrology enthusiasts, that you see this all as a pile of bullshit concocted to allow the establishment of a new world order or whatever. Knock yourself out).

As an aside, on the other extreme, I've gotten abuse from individuals about whether it is safe for them to work because the PCR tests were perceived to be not sensitive enough, due to the chances of a false negative being much higher in the early stages of infection!

[J70]

Amazing how the media can spin a narrative based on nothing and people actually believe it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/02/coronavirus-governors-2024-election-160125

How was it based on "nothing"?

Those governors, including the likes of DeWine and Hogan, were perceived to be stepping up at that particular moment, around the same time that Trump was pushing dubious pharmaceutical and disinfectant treatments and being in general denial about the seriousness of the pandemic.

Cuomo may have made a bad decision on the nursing homes, but it wasn't clear at that point. He had yet to go down the road of trying to hide the nursing home deaths. His sexual harassment scandals were almost a year away. What everyone was seeing was a sober leader taking the pandemic seriously and giving calm, mature guidance and updates to the public as NYC was suffering the first severe outbreak in the US.

[Eamonnca1]

[Gmac]

No press conference by joe Biden since inauguration.
longest period in last 15 presidents .
I wonder why .

[whitey]

He's too busy locking kids up in concentration camps

[J70]

He's too busy locking kids up in concentration camps

At least he's not ripping them out of their parents arms and shipping them off across the country to who knows where in a dehumanizing attempt to intimidate other people into not coming.

These migrant kids will be dealt with as humanely as possible. Biden's base won't stand for otherwise.

Unlike Trump's, who cheered every desperate mother's wail.

[J70]

No press conference by joe Biden since inauguration.
longest period in last 15 presidents .
I wonder why .

He's too busy undoing Trump's agenda.

But yeah, he should get out there now and again.

But its also hilarious how the likes of yourself are so wedded to the Alzheimer Joe narrative. Whatever gives you comfort I guess. There's certainly none coming from the GOP side.

[Gmac]

No press conference by joe Biden since inauguration.
longest period in last 15 presidents .
I wonder why .

He's too busy undoing Trump's agenda.

But yeah, he should get out there now and again.

But its also hilarious how the likes of yourself are so wedded to the Alzheimer Joe narrative. Whatever gives you comfort I guess. There's certainly none coming from the GOP side.

ii don't think he can handle being asked questions off the cuff by the press , why that is only time will tell , but it can't solely be because he's gaffe prone that doesn't cut it anymore.

[whitey]

He's too busy locking kids up in concentration camps

At least he's not ripping them out of their parents arms and shipping them off across the country to who knows where in a dehumanizing attempt to intimidate other people into not coming.

These migrant kids will be dealt with as humanely as possible. Biden's base won't stand for otherwise.

Unlike Trump's, who cheered every desperate mother's wail.

Nice attempt at deflection (as per usual)

I was referring to the "unaccompanied" minors

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/migrant-children-border-patrol-custody-past-legal-limit/

[J70]

He's too busy locking kids up in concentration camps

At least he's not ripping them out of their parents arms and shipping them off across the country to who knows where in a dehumanizing attempt to intimidate other people into not coming.

These migrant kids will be dealt with as humanely as possible. Biden's base won't stand for otherwise.

Unlike Trump's, who cheered every desperate mother's wail.

Nice attempt at deflection (as per usual)

I was referring to the "unaccompanied" minors

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/migrant-children-border-patrol-custody-past-legal-limit/

I know what you were referring to. It's all over the news.

Hence "these migrant kids will be dealt with as humanely as possible".

My point was that it's unfortunate, but it's not a deliberate policy to dehumanize and to satisfy the cruelty of a constituency.

Regardless, they can't just wish adequate facilities into existence. It's going to take time.

Trump would be, and was, just shipping them back across the border.

[J70]

No press conference by joe Biden since inauguration.
longest period in last 15 presidents .
I wonder why .

He's too busy undoing Trump's agenda.

But yeah, he should get out there now and again.

But its also hilarious how the likes of yourself are so wedded to the Alzheimer Joe narrative. Whatever gives you comfort I guess. There's certainly none coming from the GOP side.

ii don't think he can handle being asked questions off the cuff by the press , why that is only time will tell , but it can't solely be because he's gaffe prone that doesn't cut it anymore.

He did fine in the debates.

Which were five months ago.