Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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Lord Antrim

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Quote from: johnnycool on February 15, 2024, 03:16:12 PM
Quote from: Lord Antrim on February 15, 2024, 03:05:57 PMI find it very interesting all the debate about Dunsilly.
I wonder what we did before we had it ' yep complain that our County teams were ill prepared etc etc etc.
Is it perfect? -No but it is a dammed sight better than nothing.
It is a long term project and will changes be made -yep.
Do we have the luxury of being able to fund in one go - no but just look back and see what progress has been made.
Hopefully once 4 codes come under one umbrella even more will be made.
Now with gym we move on to next stage - 4G  or better lights ?
It should not be considered for Adult games as not suitable. Schools and underage development games only.

As for Casement that is no longer an Antrim asset.Ulster control that and I suspect we'll not play too many games there.
Lets be honest even if we had 5k supporters at games it will feel empty.
Antrim county teams will continue to play in Corrigan - more politics but that ship has long since sailed.
Is it the right location - no ? but funding was given and that is where games will be.Expect them to receive funds to develop terrace far side any time soon.
When games were held in Ballycastle everyone complained it was yoo windy 🤣
It has larger pitch , better parking for bigger crowds but pitch would be heavy  and exposed at this time of year.
Great to debate but we are where we are and just need to crack on.

Antrim county senior teams will have access to the new Casement for NHL/NFL and championship and possibly the two senior county finals as the optics of the Ulster Council not letting them use it would be very bad, but don't be expected the SA junior B finalists to get a run out there!
Never mentioned they wouldn't have access just that I wouldn't expect them to play many games there .
As usual it will come down to money and control.
In reality playing in 35k seater stadium against Westmeath for example not going to touch sides and even less for some football games.
But only an opinion and maybe SA junior B finalists may suprise us with massive following.

Oso

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PMJesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.

Read my post.

Any number of venues could have been developed.

You keep rambling on about health and safety, rich since your own club's set up is a total health hazard.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PMJesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.

Read my post.

Any number of venues could have been developed.

You keep rambling on about health and safety, rich since your own club's set up is a total health hazard.

So I'd asked about the here and now and but you harp on about something not related to my post?

Having great facilities doesn't bring success ;)  and your club is?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Oso

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.

The whole yes it's not ideal but we'll make do with it, it's better than what we had.  Do people think guys like Mickey Harte would put up with that shit?  We will always be average if we accept average in all aspects of our set up.  Of course it doesn't guarantee success on the pitch but it's all part of the mindset.

And before the rest of the inferiority complex arrive let's not laud and fawn over the gym facilities at at dunsilly, there are clubs up and down the country with superior gym facilities with more space paid for by themselves. 

Oso

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 08:34:31 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2024, 09:01:06 PMJesus, you talk some turd!

Where should it be played? Try and deal with the here and now btw.

Read my post.

Any number of venues could have been developed.

You keep rambling on about health and safety, rich since your own club's set up is a total health hazard.

So I'd asked about the here and now and but you harp on about something not related to my post?

Having great facilities doesn't bring success ;)  and your club is?

Again.....you miss the point completely. 

You are referring to the here and now regarding Corrigan, I pointed out that the only positive things about Corrigan are where the facilities that the investment paid for,  the rest is still a hole.

Now let me say this really slowly again..... The investment should never have been into Corrigan especially as it's so close to the casement site.  Pick any number of club grounds in north or southwest Antrim and put the same covered stand and terracing there, loads already have better toilets and parking easier to facilitate and......loads of clubs have a second pitch so that the goal mouths that our county teams have to play in aren't the embarrassment that Corrigan is.

Comprendre my little friend?

Milltown Row2

Ok, I'll do it slowly as you don't or didn't understand, that horse has bolted a long time ago, maybe when you were in primary school.

My post to you was, where should it be held? All your other turd talk has been discussed a long time ago on here.

I doubt you'll answer the actual question, I'll not hold out on you answering the other question, as I doubt that you are a member of any club 
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.
Are you being serious?
We're as far away from the big guns today as we have been at any time in the last 25 years (at least)

NorthAntrim

Agree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

barnish oggie

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D

Milltown Row2

You'd have been tortured though with the stewarding, parking and all the other crap that goes with it
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

SaffronSports

Quote from: barnish oggie on February 16, 2024, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.



Good point, the money should have been given to Tir na nOg  ;D


I'd say you are one of the clubs with the best facilities in Antrim as it is. There's a ton of land around it to potentially expand (depending on who actually owns that land). TNN, Antrim or Ballymena would have been perfect IMO but I suppose there's no point crying over spilt milk.

From a selfish point of view, I'd love Casement to be built to have that proper home for Antrim GAA although if I'm honest it probably is a waste of money. How many times have Antrim even filled Corrigan for a county match?

If Casement doesn't happen if the Euros pulls the plug on the money is there a case to build something smaller elsewhere? 

Milltown Row2

Build something smaller on the site that is actually there would be the idea and keep it for Antrim, Athletic Ground size would be ideal in the same spot as Casement.

Sure we'll see how it goes in the coming months and whether, if at all, anything is really started or completed

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Oso

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 11:08:31 AM
Quote from: Oso on February 16, 2024, 08:36:01 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 15, 2024, 10:19:27 AMCasement was a fantastic surface and a big wide open field.
Not a blind bit of difference did it make to the quality of hurling our county team served up.

Total tripe.

We were largely competitive against anyone. Yes we took some big beatings but nothing on a par with what we regularly ship against the big guns nowadays. 

Amuses me the inferiority complex on here.
Are you being serious?
We're as far away from the big guns today as we have been at any time in the last 25 years (at least)

You've misunderstood.

As I implied we are further away from the big guns than we have ever been.

We never shipped the hidings by the margins we do now on a regular basis.

Oso

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2024, 11:50:54 AM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on February 16, 2024, 11:30:25 AMAgree with the Corrigan point. If the invested money was afforded to another club with larger grounds they could've developed a better facility.

This was discussed at length at the time and I think everyone was in agreement that there could have been better and more central facilities that could have been invested in.

But we are where we are and going over old ground will not make the builders go in and lift the stands at Corrigan and move them to Randalstown or Antrim

Unfortunately with Antrim there has been plenty of if's and everyone is an expert looking in. We'd only, at this point been without Casement had we just kept it open and played there till when the builders came in.




Whether this was discussed or not before is irrelevant to the current discussion.

You don't dictate the terms on here as you like to try elsewhere wee man.

It's relevant because it does our county teams no favours at all. And as usual there's no accountability for any of these ridiculous decisions.