Teachers get it handy!

[milltown row]

i'm dealing with  these kids after they fail in school, i sometimes wonder what the fcuk goes on in their home life. the kids have enough brain power to get the bus. not enough left over to lift their feet when they walk. but if you have a go at them about their social skills they are quick to claim your picking on them.

[pintsofguinness]

I blame the parents.

[pintsofguinness]

So do you think they won't expel this little p***k because they're afraid they'll be out of pocket defending the decision? 

The country's fucked.

[milltown row]

thats why i want the 11+ to stay, so my kids don't end up with these type of kids, sorry if i sound a snob, i ain't just my experience of these school does nothing to tell me that Comprehensive will be better

[Sandy Hill]

thats why i want the 11+ to stay, so my kids don't end up with these type of kids, sorry if i sound a snob, i ain't just my experience of these school does nothing to tell me that Comprehensive will be better

Care to elaborate?

[pintsofguinness]

thats why i want the 11+ to stay, so my kids don't end up with these type of kids, sorry if i sound a snob, i ain't just my experience of these school does nothing to tell me that Comprehensive will be better

Yes, you are a snob.

btw what makes you think your kids wouldl pass the 11+?

[saffron sam2]

i'm dealing with  these kids after they fail in school, i sometimes wonder what the fcuk goes on in their home life. the kids have enough brain power to get the bus. not enough left over to lift their feet when they walk. but if you have a go at them about their social skills they are quick to claim your picking on them.

Very disappointing attitude from one who works with the under-privileged.

I thought your young chap went to a secondary school - certainly claimed to be at Bearnageeha when I met him - would he not be exposed to such underlings there?

[Minder]

Why has nobody mentioned "socio economic" reasons for the kids being hoods? That usually justifies it.

[milltown row]

he did saffron sam and has done well with passing his grades, staying on and hopefully college.

but my problem with these kids is that they bring the rest of the class down. you should know working where you do, teachers have no time to work with this type of kid. we aren't trained properly or given the time to do one on ones.

me a snob? class

[pintsofguinness]

but my problem with these kids is that they bring the rest of the class down. you should know working where you do, teachers have no time to work with this type of kid. we aren't trained properly or given the time to do one on ones.

So address that issue rather than have a system in place which saves some kids from that but says f**k you to the rest.

[milltown row]

have you seen the news today?  they cant get these kids out of the schools and the children that want to be taught are getting let down.

systems have been put in place, like loughview and other day centres that look after the kids that are eventually kicked out. do you  think this solves it?

the problem comes from home. it's the parents (i use that word loosesly)  that need education. there is no money in education to deal with problem kids.

all teachers will tell ya the same thing, THEY GRIND YA DOWN EVENTUALLY.  try teaching pintsofguinness, its an experience

[pintsofguinness]

Oh i agree with you on the parents.
But my point is you seemed to be happy enough to have a 11+ if your kids could avoid a class with these little pricks but is that the answer? What about the decent kids that would have to share a class with them?
In the same way people want the 11+ because it may mean their kid has a chance to go to a good school - f**k that I say - the answer is the make every school a good school!

[The Real Laoislad]

Teachers are a pain in the hole..For ever complaining about the hours they work  and how stressfull their jobs are 
As if they had the most important job known to man and no other occupation was stressful... 
As for the hours they work  Give me a f**king break

[milltown row]

no money no money no money POG, schools cant have small classes, nearly 30 in a class is what we have,

if the lad has behaviour problems and learning difficulties then he needs to be in a class of 5 and no more. and working on the 3 r's. and a vocational route.  by the time i get him he should know how to read and work out basic maths. oh and manners would help but i suppose I'm asking for a miracle

so the answer is simple, get specialised teachers who are given the time to work on the whats needed to make them better adults

[pintsofguinness]

no money no money no money POG, schools cant have small classes, nearly 30 in a class is what we have,

Course there is.  If they can find 40 billion to save a couple of banks they can find a few pound for education - it's just a matter of wanting to and a case of taking it off the wasters in society and putting it in to something worthwhile.