Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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Tubberman

No change to withdrawal agreement.  A political fudge which is ultimately meaningless - says if either side is not making reasonable endeavours to agree trade deal, it can be brought to arbitration. if arbitration agrees one side isn't acting in good faith (however that could be proven!), then the other side can walk away. Or something....
If it gets through the commons, its only because ERG/DUP were looking for an excuse to back it rather than take the leap into no-deal territory.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Milltown Row2

Something will go through, the EU have said that's it, nothing else will be changed. Back to London, back it or it's a no deal agreement which won't happen
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

yellowcard

It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

screenexile

Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

Seems to be the case... you wouldn't like to be relying on the DUP for anything though that's for sure!!

Enjoyed the "First Minister of Nowhere" comment this evening.

yellowcard

Quote from: screenexile on March 11, 2019, 11:29:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

Seems to be the case... you wouldn't like to be relying on the DUP for anything though that's for sure!!

Enjoyed the "First Minister of Nowhere" comment this evening.

Cue frantic discussions overnight with the orange order, they scuppered the Stormont deal at the 11th hour.

imtommygunn

Well them / UVF.

seafoid

Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.
. It's a bit like the last slow set at the Slaughtneil disco at this stage. The DUP has run out of options. If the party wants the ride it has to take May's deal.


johnnycool

Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

JRM saying as much this morning, Wee Sammy wants more time to get feedback from the Attorney General and that other legal eagle from Donaghadee who supplies doormen to the finest North Down establishments.


oakleaflad

Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.
. It's a bit like the last slow set at the Slaughtneil disco at this stage. The DUP has run out of options. If the party wants the ride it has to take May's deal.
All that's left then is to stand for Amhrán na bhFiann

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 09:34:53 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.
. It's a bit like the last slow set at the Slaughtneil disco at this stage. The DUP has run out of options. If the party wants the ride it has to take May's deal.

As pieces of analysis go. This is up there with the very best.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on March 12, 2019, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

JRM saying as much this morning, Wee Sammy wants more time to get feedback from the Attorney General and that other legal eagle from Donaghadee who supplies doormen to the finest North Down establishments.
If the DUP accept it they  will bring a good few ERG jihadis along. May has a working majority of 3.
If they say no there will be another referendum and Brexit will die.
So it's real senior hurling 


Rossfan

Quote from: johnnycool on March 12, 2019, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

JRM saying as much this morning, Wee Sammy wants more time to get feedback from the Attorney General and that other legal eagle from Donaghadee who supplies doormen to the finest North Down establishments.

DUPUDA  ::)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

yellowcard

Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 12, 2019, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

JRM saying as much this morning, Wee Sammy wants more time to get feedback from the Attorney General and that other legal eagle from Donaghadee who supplies doormen to the finest North Down establishments.
If the DUP accept it they  will bring a good few ERG jihadis along. May has a working majority of 3.
If they say no there will be another referendum and Brexit will die.
So it's real senior hurling

It's bizarre to think that possibly the biggest decision that the UK has made since WW2 lies in the hands of the DUP. By a sheer accident of numbers they have had way more influence during this entire process than they ought to have had. 

Will they side with English nationalism and go against all of the advice of local business leaders, farmers, economists and the head of civil service? If they say no again then I'm not sure exactly where it leaves them since we could be facing into an extension of article 50 and a general election which would see them ousted from power. 

screenexile

Quote from: yellowcard on March 12, 2019, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2019, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 12, 2019, 09:54:06 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on March 11, 2019, 11:26:21 PM
It looks like it effectively boils down to whether the DUP can accept it or not.

JRM saying as much this morning, Wee Sammy wants more time to get feedback from the Attorney General and that other legal eagle from Donaghadee who supplies doormen to the finest North Down establishments.
If the DUP accept it they  will bring a good few ERG jihadis along. May has a working majority of 3.
If they say no there will be another referendum and Brexit will die.
So it's real senior hurling

It's bizarre to think that possibly the biggest decision that the UK has made since WW2 lies in the hands of the DUP. By a sheer accident of numbers they have had way more influence during this entire process than they ought to have had. 

Will they side with English nationalism and go against all of the advice of local business leaders, farmers, economists and the head of civil service? If they say no again then I'm not sure exactly where it leaves them since we could be facing into an extension of article 50 and a general election which would see them ousted from power.

Again . . . where the f**k are Sinn Fein??!!!

Tubberman

Cox, the AG, has said the UK still cannot unilaterally withdraw. A dead duck?

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However, the legal risk remains unchanged that if through no such demonstrable failure of either
party, but simply because of intractable differences, that situation does arise, the United Kingdom
would have, at least while the fundamental circumstances remained the same, no internationally
lawful means of exiting the Protocol's arrangements, save by agreement.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."