Brexit.

[armaghniac]

In fairness we get things like free prescriptions, no water charges etc. over here and I don't hear too many complain about that

True, but being denied a genuine civil liberty is a bit different.

It is a complete (and typical) devaluation of language to describe the difference between something called Civil Partnership and Marriage as a civil liberty. The right to have a relationship might be a civil liberty, having certain tax allowances or have it called a certain name is definitely not.

[bennydorano]

Abortion then.

[armaghniac]

Abortion then.

Once again it is not a civil right to end another life for your own convenience, quite the reverse.

[heganboy]

Abortion then.

Once again it is not a civil right to end another life for your own convenience, quite the reverse.

In your opinion

[bennydorano]

Legal entitlement. (Without the Catholic melodrama on both issues).

[Olly]

I was in a Spar tonight. I got:

a pan loaf for a pound.
a packet of massive Knik Knaks for a pound.
3 toilet rolls for a pound
a bottle of Comfort for a pound.
a tube of Vaseline for a pound.

Brexit my hole. Shop in the right places.

[armaghniac]

a tube of Vaseline for a pound.

This will be useful, post Brexit.

[Hereiam]

I was in a Spar tonight. I got:

a pan loaf for a pound.
a packet of massive Knik Knaks for a pound.
3 toilet rolls for a pound
a bottle of Comfort for a pound.
a tube of Vaseline for a pound.

Brexit my hole. Shop in the right places.

Supermarkets/shops will soon put up the prices once haulage costs go up

[seafoid]

I was in a Spar tonight. I got:

a pan loaf for a pound.
a packet of massive Knik Knaks for a pound.
3 toilet rolls for a pound
a bottle of Comfort for a pound.
a tube of Vaseline for a pound.

Brexit my hole. Shop in the right places.

Brexiting your hole is legally impossible. 

[Milltown Row2]

I was in a Spar tonight. I got:

a pan loaf for a pound.
a packet of massive Knik Knaks for a pound.
3 toilet rolls for a pound
a bottle of Comfort for a pound.
a tube of Vaseline for a pound.

Brexit my hole. Shop in the right places.

Supermarkets/shops will soon put up the prices once haulage costs go up

Has fuel went up?? And has it reached the peak that it was last year??

[general_lee]

Why wouldn't it go up? If not as a direct result of Brexit, I'd expect it to be used as an excuse by the government to raise it anyway

[LeoMc]

Haranguerer and macdanger, do you live in the 6 co's?

No

I thought as much, given the flippant nature of your 'you must accept the vote' statements.

Eh, is that not how democracy works??

I'll give you an example here.  Today, we have the Chilcot report, which pretty much damns Tony Blair for taking Britain to war in Iraq based on lies and falsehoods.  The decision to invade was made, entirely democratically, by a vote the House of Commons.  Do you also defend that decision?

It's exactly the same here - people were fed blatant lies and asked to vote based on those.  That is not democracy.

You cant uninvade. The decision was made.

[Franko]

Haranguerer and macdanger, do you live in the 6 co's?

No

I thought as much, given the flippant nature of your 'you must accept the vote' statements.

Eh, is that not how democracy works??

I'll give you an example here.  Today, we have the Chilcot report, which pretty much damns Tony Blair for taking Britain to war in Iraq based on lies and falsehoods.  The decision to invade was made, entirely democratically, by a vote the House of Commons.  Do you also defend that decision?

It's exactly the same here - people were fed blatant lies and asked to vote based on those.  That is not democracy.

You cant uninvade. The decision was made.

Bravo, Einstein.  My point is that we shouldn't make the mistake of taking another major decision (no matter how democratically) based on lies and deception.

[haranguerer]

Haranguerer and macdanger, do you live in the 6 co's?

No

I thought as much, given the flippant nature of your 'you must accept the vote' statements.

Well, you clearly thought wrong, given that I do.

And the irony of you labelling our saying democracy should be accepted and respected as 'flippant' is delightful 

You're clearly suggesting that we don't accept the vote. What do we do?

How can a vote based on total lies be described as truly democratic?  I wish I knew what could be done from here but there has to be a political way to soften the blow - possibly some sort of Brexit 'lite' that could be negotiated to placate the idiots (and I mean idiots) who voted leave but at the same time respecting the 'democratic' will.

Well, I say we need to respect democracy, and you say you don't know what to do, so until you do, I think we should go with my suggestion.

Also, just out of interest - can you give me the specific examples of the 'total lies' the Leave side told?

[Franko]

Haranguerer and macdanger, do you live in the 6 co's?

No

I thought as much, given the flippant nature of your 'you must accept the vote' statements.

Well, you clearly thought wrong, given that I do.

And the irony of you labelling our saying democracy should be accepted and respected as 'flippant' is delightful 

You're clearly suggesting that we don't accept the vote. What do we do?

How can a vote based on total lies be described as truly democratic?  I wish I knew what could be done from here but there has to be a political way to soften the blow - possibly some sort of Brexit 'lite' that could be negotiated to placate the idiots (and I mean idiots) who voted leave but at the same time respecting the 'democratic' will.

Well, I say we need to respect democracy, and you say you don't know what to do, so until you do, I think we should go with my suggestion.

Also, just out of interest - can you give me the specific examples of the 'total lies' the Leave side told?

If you need me to do this, you clearly haven't been following events too closely.  With that, I hope you'll forgive me if I disagree with your suggestion.