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« Reply #825 on: February 13, 2018, 12:38:00 PM »
Do none of these pricks have no jobs? If u a hard working man up and away at 6-30/7am and not home to 5/6pm u wrecked when u get home; dinner; bit of tv, indoor soccer or golf occasionally; if u still that age training with football team or gym!  Who, but people with time on their hands would be up to his crap! I get the impression half these people are unemployablel! Others with criminal records but in all; most want attention seeking more than catching a person up to no good! Its a poor man Ireland version of the Tv show the wire from 15yrs bck!!

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« Reply #826 on: February 13, 2018, 01:30:06 PM »
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A gang calling itself Nonce Catchers NI, run by east Belfast man Kenny Abbott, is currently being sued by a man identified as a paedophile on its Facebook page. The case was listed in the High Court last Tuesday with Abbott, who loyalist sources say is a “complete balloon”, named on the writ.

Predator Catchers NI is also the subject of legal action as is Team NI Protecting Kids.

The latter is in the process of being sued by the innocent Antrim woman whose house its members showed up outside, wrongly claiming a paedophile lived there while broadcasting it on Facebook Live.

Describes a few of these lads no doubt



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Only three of the so-called ‘water-tight’ 110 cases they have cobbled together have been forwarded to the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) for consideration.

Ten of the referrals were immediately binned because they contained no evidence whatsoever.

A further seven were returned by the PPS to the PSNI which closed them because they did not meet legal standards.



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Shame of Northern Ireland paedophile hunters: Sins of the lynch mob revealed

A top cop has confirmed police are investigating links between online paedophile hunter groups and loyalist paramilitaries.

Detective Chief Superintendent Paula Hillman also revealed that at least one individual involved in these vigilante gangs has been questioned by detectives about sexual assault.

The damning assessment by the head of the PSNI’s Public Protection Unit comes on the back of a Sunday Life investigation into the shadowy characters running these groups.

We have uncovered evidence that one individual, South East Antrim man Gary Harper, had more than £70,000 of criminal property seized by the Assets Recovery Agency.

Another so-called hunter George Keenan, who uses the pseudonym James O’Neill and who led the mob that tried to intimidate respected BBC investigative reporter Kevin Magee, is nothing more than a minor criminal.

While a third, who we cannot name at this stage for legal reasons, was questioned by police about a sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Despite their less than desirable backgrounds the trio all present themselves as the saviours of children across Northern Ireland.

They do this while hiding behind fake names and refusing to answer legitimate questions about their motives, methods and criminal records.

Harper, Keenan and the suspected sex attacker are all involved with some of the nine self-titled paedophile hunting groups currently operating in Northern Ireland.

The overwhelming majority of the evidence each of these mobs have presented to police so far is worthless.

Only three of the so-called ‘water-tight’ 110 cases they have cobbled together have been forwarded to the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) for consideration.

Ten of the referrals were immediately binned because they contained no evidence whatsoever.

A further seven were returned by the PPS to the PSNI which closed them because they did not meet legal standards.

DCS Hillman, who has asked online paedophile hunters to stop live-streaming confrontations with targets because it wrecks any chance of prosecution, admits there are links between paramilitaries and some of these groups.

She told Sunday Life: “We don’t see any evidence of these groups being organised by loyalist paramilitaries, but there are people in these groups with links to loyalist paramilitaries.”

Referring to the criminal backgrounds of some of the paedophile hunters, DCS Hillman, who did not name anyone, added: “We have to disclose everything to the PPS when presenting the evidence gathered by these groups.

“This includes the backgrounds of individuals within these groups and their criminal convictions.

“There have been some serious allegations made about some of these individuals, including sexual offence allegations.”

The paeodphile hunting gangs regularly complain that they have been forced into vigilantism because the PSNI is not doing their job and ignoring sexual predators.

However, this is an outright lie and a simple look at court lists throughout Northern Ireland puts pay to this myth.

In the next week alone more than 70 individuals will appear in the dock charged with offences including rape, sexual assault, grooming kids online, and having child abuse images.

PSNI sources told Sunday Life that having to deal with flawed evidence put forward by online paedophile hunters — cases that have no hope of prosecution because they insist on broadcasting stings live — means they cannot work on genuine investigations.

They also point to the monumental c**k-ups frequently made by these groups, whose members have no training in investigative techniques, evidence gathering or child protection.

One of these gangs, Team NI Protecting Kids which involves Gary Harper and sells branded merchandise on Facebook, recently surrounded the wrong house in Antrim town terrifying a single mother.

They only left the innocent woman’s property when confronted by local community workers who called the police.

Another group’s ‘investigation’ led to a law graduate being mistakenly identified as a paedophile and receiving a barrage of online abuse.

Cars have also been wrongly damaged, and last week the home of a GAA coach named as an alleged pervert was targeted by arsonists.

The UDA has also been using the Facebook pages to single out people they name as paedophiles.

Last month the terror gang assaulted two men in the Rathccole estate in Newtownabbey and smashed up a house in Tigers Bay in north Belfast after reading online allegations. The slipshod methods used by Northern Irish-based vigilantes has drawn the ire of established groups in England, who work successfully with the police and have secured dozens of prosecutions.

Stinson Hunter, who started the online paedophile hunter phenomenon in England and featured in a Channel 4 documentary, has accused Northern Ireland groups of criminality.

Criticisng their threats and seizures of phones, he tweeted: “That’s highly illegal, probably street robbery or at the very least theft. Very wrong to do that. The problem is people have their own agendas and do things for their own reasons.”

Hunter’s tweet was in response to footage broadcast last Tuesday night of a mob of paedophile hunters threatening and intimidating BBC reporter Kevin Magee, who had called to one of their homes earlier in the day asking for an interview. The baying crowd was led by loud-mouthed clown George Keenan, who bellowed at the award-winning journalist in a transatlantic accent: “You don’t come to my f*****g home, do I make myself clear. You wanna cause stress? I cause stress, this is what you call power in f*****g numbers.”

Convicted criminal Keenan, who is now facing arrest, has since closed his social media pages.

But before shutting them down the egomaniac could not resist posting two cringe-worthy video monologues on Facebook, which have since been deleted, trying to justify his actions.

Keenan’s little band of internet tough guys, whose identities Sunday Life is aware of, are also facing prosecution for a number of public order offences.

We cannot name them because of the impending legal action but can reveal they have connections to an online group styling itself Predator Catchers NI.

Among them is a Belfast bouncer described as a “plastic hardman” by other security staff in the city centre, a woman from Cookstown who is an unashamed UDA supporter, and a female loyalist from the Shore Road district of Belfast.

Not only are these online paedophile groups facing imminent criminal prosecution they are also the subject of ongoing civil litigation, as is social media giant Facebook which publishes their accusations.

A gang calling itself Nonce Catchers NI, run by east Belfast man Kenny Abbott, is currently being sued by a man identified as a paedophile on its Facebook page. The case was listed in the High Court last Tuesday with Abbott, who loyalist sources say is a “complete balloon”, named on the writ.

Predator Catchers NI is also the subject of legal action as is Team NI Protecting Kids.

The latter is in the process of being sued by the innocent Antrim woman whose house its members showed up outside, wrongly claiming a paedophile lived there while broadcasting it on Facebook Live.

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« Reply #827 on: February 13, 2018, 01:43:31 PM »
Hopefully Tony reads this

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« Reply #828 on: February 13, 2018, 02:20:14 PM »
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

Compare and contrast this article with the village idiot's take on things.  ;D


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« Reply #830 on: February 13, 2018, 07:24:15 PM »
If have had a sympathy and Luke warm support for these groups but your man made such a dick of himself on Nolan, Judge Judy and Executioner

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« Reply #831 on: February 13, 2018, 07:44:38 PM »
I see the biased BBC is still well able to influence.I don't mind these guys not turning up in Armani gear or speaking with posh accents.As long as they are drawing out paedophiles they are doing good work in my opinion

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« Reply #832 on: February 13, 2018, 07:52:35 PM »
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

Compare and contrast this article with the village idiot's take on things.  ;D

Question for supporters of the paedo hunters - As far as I know, the police are saying that paedo hunters should stop. So why are they continuing?
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« Reply #833 on: February 13, 2018, 08:11:50 PM »
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

Compare and contrast this article with the village idiot's take on things.  ;D

Question for supporters of the paedo hunters - As far as I know, the police are saying that paedo hunters should stop. So why are they continuing?

Cause Tony would have nothing to post!
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« Reply #834 on: February 13, 2018, 08:22:49 PM »
Still has the church

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« Reply #835 on: February 13, 2018, 08:36:59 PM »
I see the biased BBC is still well able to influence.I don't mind these guys not turning up in Armani gear or speaking with posh accents.As long as they are drawing out paedophiles they are doing good work in my opinion

What about the houses they get wrong? What about the guy who took his own life? You support these instances as well?

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« Reply #836 on: February 13, 2018, 08:53:16 PM »
Just watched the BBC newsline expose, holy jesus, anybody sitting in any fence would likely have changed their minds after watching thon balloons.

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« Reply #837 on: February 13, 2018, 09:01:56 PM »
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

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« Reply #838 on: February 13, 2018, 09:12:32 PM »
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show
1. If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue and acted entirely lawfully, would you feel you have the right to break the law in response?
2. You clearly stated that you supported these groups "so long as they act within the law". Given that this group quite clearly broke several laws in response to them being 'unhappy' at something, is it not fair to assume that either you no longer support the group in question or else you were lying in saying your support was conditional on their law abiding behaviour?

Once again... in your own time, Tony.

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« Reply #839 on: February 13, 2018, 09:18:39 PM »
Tony sees what he wants to see and then go for whataboutery tactic! Looks for topic which will set him apart from rational thinking and then WUM it

Surprised he’d not debated the rugby trial!
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