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Title: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
What are peoples views on these groups?
Firstly i think they do great work in that they expose dirty old men etc and obviously the more creeps and perverts are taken off our streets the better.

What i did have an issue with is the way they now have to expose it all on Facebook live.
 I watched one the other night of a man down Dunloy direction. He had been thinking he was talking to a young girl of about 13 i think. Talking all the filth of the day. Disgusting by all accounts.
These people landed to his door at 11 on sunday night and went through this all in front of his wife, daughter etc. Now whilst not showing the wife and daughters face you could hear the daughter crying. This all going out on facebook live. WTF. Surely the best thing in that instance is to hand the evidence to the police and let them deal with it. If you want to expose him then surely there are better ways than facebook live. Its the family who pick up the pieces afterwards. Imagine a teenage daughter knowing 3.5k people were watching all that. How is she meant to face the real world. The whole thing sicked me entirely. Obviously what he did disgusts me that goes without saying.

He killed himself the next day also.

Terrible situation.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
What are peoples views on these groups?
Firstly i think they do great work in that they expose dirty old men etc and obviously the more creeps and perverts are taken off our streets the better.

What i did have an issue with is the way they now have to expose it all on Facebook live.
 I watched one the other night of a man down Dunloy direction. He had been thinking he was talking to a young girl of about 13 i think. Talking all the filth of the day. Disgusting by all accounts.
These people landed to his door at 11 on sunday night and went through this all in front of his wife, daughter etc. Now whilst not showing the wife and daughters face you could hear the daughter crying. This all going out on facebook live. WTF. Surely the best thing in that instance is to hand the evidence to the police and let them deal with it. If you want to expose him then surely there are better ways than facebook live. Its the family who pick up the pieces afterwards. Imagine a teenage daughter knowing 3.5k people were watching all that. How is she meant to face the real world. The whole thing sicked me entirely. Obviously what he did disgusts me that goes without saying.

He killed himself the next day also.

Terrible situation.

What I have an issue with is these b**tards trying to groom kids in the first place, f**k him one less pervert to worry about.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:21:21 PM
I dont think you get my point.

Im not showing any sympathy with him whatsoever. Its his family! What about his daughter? No matter about his actions, does she deserve that shown on facebook live?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:24:50 PM
What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:28:33 PM
Where did i say keep it secret entirely? At least with a trial or whatever the children/ wife have time to prepare for whats coming towards them.
Facebook live means its out there immediately for thousands to see right away.

I dont get why u continue to go on about how little time you have for a pervert. That goes without saying and you are no different in that thinking than anyone else!! He wasnt my point in the original post but you know that already.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on August 10, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
These vigilante groups think they're helping but this isn't always the case. Yes it's great targeting predators and that is to be commended but how they go about it isn't always effective. If they have evidence to suggest someone might harm a child then the best course of action is to go the police. Taking it further like they did in Dunloy hasn't exactly had the best outcome, and in some cases they may end up compromising investigations.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:34:45 PM
You reap what you sow.  Very much doubt any action would have happened if that evidence went to the police, he didnt meet a young girl? didnt download any inappropriate material? he thought he was talking to a girl and was talking to a man / men trying to entrap him.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
Thats the point i was trying to make. You just said it more effectively than i did  :-\
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:36:22 PM
You reap what you sow.  Very much doubt any action would have happened if that evidence went to the police, he didnt meet a young girl? didnt download any inappropriate material? he thought he was talking to a girl and was talking to a man / men trying to entrap him.

So you think his daughter deserved to be crying on facebook live for all to see/ hear whilst they read out the filth her father was writing online?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:37:38 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
You reap what you sow.  Very much doubt any action would have happened if that evidence went to the police, he didnt meet a young girl? didnt download any inappropriate material? he thought he was talking to a girl and was talking to a man / men trying to entrap him.

So you think his daughter deserved to be crying on facebook live for all to see/ hear whilst they read out the filth her father was writing online?

Her father put her in that position no one else.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:40:19 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

I think sexual abuse of a child / vulnerable person is one of the worse crimes out there, you can assume whatever you want.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:41:15 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

I think sexual abuse of a child / vulnerable person is one of the worse crimes out there, you can assume whatever you want.

Completely agree but why have any sort of law then?

Lets return to the Wild West and anyone can dish out justice
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:41:45 PM
You reap what you sow.  Very much doubt any action would have happened if that evidence went to the police, he didnt meet a young girl? didnt download any inappropriate material? he thought he was talking to a girl and was talking to a man / men trying to entrap him.

So you think his daughter deserved to be crying on facebook live for all to see/ hear whilst they read out the filth her father was writing online?

Her father put her in that position no one else.

So she deserved that?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:44:38 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

I think sexual abuse of a child / vulnerable person is one of the worse crimes out there, you can assume whatever you want.

Completely agree but why have any sort of law then?

Lets return to the Wild West and anyone can dish out justice

Who dished out what, no one touched this individual.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Puckoon on August 10, 2017, 12:45:30 PM
This couldn't be going any better - TG you're talking to the Gaaboards very own Begbie and you asked the right question earlier in the tread.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:46:05 PM
You reap what you sow.  Very much doubt any action would have happened if that evidence went to the police, he didnt meet a young girl? didnt download any inappropriate material? he thought he was talking to a girl and was talking to a man / men trying to entrap him.

So you think his daughter deserved to be crying on facebook live for all to see/ hear whilst they read out the filth her father was writing online?

Her father put her in that position no one else.

So she deserved that?

That's a question for her father - he put her in that position - though by topping himself he probably thought she didn't.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 12:47:56 PM
This couldn't be going any better - TG you're talking to the Gaaboards very own Begbie and you asked the right question earlier in the tread.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 12:50:42 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on August 10, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
This could be an interesting thread alas the Gaa Board vigilantes will spoil it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 12:54:09 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Sorry where have I advocated violence on this thread, no one touched this man - he topped himself. He reaped what he sowed. What bit are you struggling with here?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Hardy on August 10, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Orior on August 10, 2017, 01:09:42 PM
Punt Kick cannot be serious.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 01:11:07 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]

Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable - where - and a direct quote please, though no doubt you wont, where did I advocate anything outside the legal process, challenging someone with facts on their behaviour and them going on to top themselves is not illegal.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 01:16:06 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]

Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable - where - and a direct quote please, though no doubt you wont, where did I advocate anything outside the legal process, challenging someone with facts on their behaviour and them going on to top themselves is not illegal.

So if I turn up at your house this evening with my vigilante buddies and accuse you of something like this while streaming it live online.

How would you feel or how would it affect your life?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 10, 2017, 01:18:02 PM
Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable







Yip riding 4 abreast even tractors pull over when they are holding up traffic - not these shower of fuckwits!
You could fine the b**tards for dangerous driving, running red lights etc or breaking the highway code.
You won't get any apologists for such behaviour from the cycling fraternity here though, as they are all arrogant c***ts.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 01:19:24 PM
Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable







Yip riding 4 abreast even tractors pull over when they are holding up traffic - not these shower of fuckwits!
You could fine the b**tards for dangerous driving, running red lights etc or breaking the highway code.
You won't get any apologists for such behaviour from the cycling fraternity here though, as they are all arrogant c***ts.

Fine quotes all valid.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 01:20:44 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]

Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable - where - and a direct quote please, though no doubt you wont, where did I advocate anything outside the legal process, challenging someone with facts on their behaviour and them going on to top themselves is not illegal.

So if I turn up at your house this evening with my vigilante buddies and accuse you of something like this while streaming it live online.

How would you feel or how would it affect your life?

I would ring the police. What would you do if it happened to you?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 01:27:19 PM
Against it. If there is evidence of wrongdoing give it to the police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: trileacman on August 10, 2017, 01:32:52 PM
Against it. If there is evidence of wrongdoing give it to the police.

Same. Say the daughter in the Dunloy case goes on to commit suicide as well? Would these tramps be still patting themselves on the back for their good work? Gobshites, leave this to the police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on August 10, 2017, 01:36:25 PM
Agreed.  If they want to trap paedos on the web that's fine.  But when they've got all the evidence together, just pass it to police and let them act.

His daughter is every bit as innocent as mine, yours, or indeed the 'girl' this cnut thought he was talking to.  She doesn't deserve that.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 01:45:39 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]

Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable - where - and a direct quote please, though no doubt you wont, where did I advocate anything outside the legal process, challenging someone with facts on their behaviour and them going on to top themselves is not illegal.

So if I turn up at your house this evening with my vigilante buddies and accuse you of something like this while streaming it live online.

How would you feel or how would it affect your life?

I would ring the police. What would you do if it happened to you?

Same.
So the vigilantes apologise and say they made a mistake - you werent the intended target.

Do you think your life would be impacted by what happened through no fault of your own?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]

Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable - where - and a direct quote please, though no doubt you wont, where did I advocate anything outside the legal process, challenging someone with facts on their behaviour and them going on to top themselves is not illegal.

So if I turn up at your house this evening with my vigilante buddies and accuse you of something like this while streaming it live online.

How would you feel or how would it affect your life?

I would ring the police. What would you do if it happened to you?

Same.
So the vigilantes apologise and say they made a mistake - you werent the intended target.

Do you think your life would be impacted by what happened through no fault of your own?

I would seek a good legal representative and press charges against them, I would press to get their internet devices seized to see why they targeted myself and what else they looking at, I certainly wouldn't kill myself if I had done nothing wrong - what about yourself - Do you think your life would be impacted by what happened through no fault of your own?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 02:04:05 PM
What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.

Just for clarity - to save you cumming over your hand trying to be a dick.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Main Street on August 10, 2017, 02:07:17 PM
You reap what you sow.  Very much doubt any action would have happened if that evidence went to the police, he didnt meet a young girl? didnt download any inappropriate material? he thought he was talking to a girl and was talking to a man / men trying to entrap him.

So you think his daughter deserved to be crying on facebook live for all to see/ hear whilst they read out the filth her father was writing online?

Her father put her in that position no one else.

So she deserved that?
You're quite right TG, the family do not deserve to be criminalised along with the alleged pedophile, those type of antics from that group are disgusting. That daughter and the rest of the family  are also victims of the (alleged) pedophile.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on August 10, 2017, 02:10:03 PM
Can't wait for Stew to drunkenly stumble across this thread.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on August 10, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
Can't wait for Stew to drunkenly stumble across this thread.

 ;D

Yeah there will be all sorts of castrations and then one bullet executions
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 10, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
I would advocate for these type of groups but I would imagine the collateral damage from these kind of things being exposed can destroy immediate family.  This may have been posted on Facebook Live but the family’s shock is still going to be the same regardless whether the police called to the door or the vigilante group has. 
Although it was the wrong way to go about revealing this sick fcuk, that wife and daughters lives have been changed as a result of the mans actions, not the groups.     
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 02:37:24 PM
I disagree to be fair. Of course it will change their lives knowing their husband/ father is at this carry on.

To broadcast this for thousands of people to see and hear goes beyond what is right imo. Without doubt this is going to make things a hell of a lot worse for them.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Taylor on August 10, 2017, 02:41:09 PM
Punt kick you seem to be missing the point.

TG hasnt mentioned anything about the actual perpetrator - its more the daughter and family she is talking about.

One can only assume you support knee capping, punishment beatings, eye for eye systems in place in the middle East etc?

So do you support knee capping, punishment beatings etc Punt Kick?

Why ask? You're hardly going to get a reasoned answer. Jurisprudence ain't in this guy's repertoire.

[Edit - see?]

Another internet warrior, just one who thinks he can disparage folk with words of more than one syllable - where - and a direct quote please, though no doubt you wont, where did I advocate anything outside the legal process, challenging someone with facts on their behaviour and them going on to top themselves is not illegal.

So if I turn up at your house this evening with my vigilante buddies and accuse you of something like this while streaming it live online.

How would you feel or how would it affect your life?

I would ring the police. What would you do if it happened to you?

Same.
So the vigilantes apologise and say they made a mistake - you werent the intended target.

Do you think your life would be impacted by what happened through no fault of your own?

I would seek a good legal representative and press charges against them, I would press to get their internet devices seized to see why they targeted myself and what else they looking at, I certainly wouldn't kill myself if I had done nothing wrong - what about yourself - Do you think your life would be impacted by what happened through no fault of your own?

Ok. I do think everyones life would be impacted.

Do you think your life or the life of your family would be impacted if this happened assuming your are completely innocent?

Maybe this is difficult for you to comprehend but what happens if the person the vigilantes go to is completely innocent and this has been streamed live?

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Hardy on August 10, 2017, 02:43:19 PM
I disagree to be fair. Of course it will change their lives knowing their husband/ father is at this carry on.

To broadcast this for thousands of people to see and hear goes beyond what is right imo. Without doubt this is going to make things a hell of a lot worse for them.

We don't KNOW anything. And now will never find out because there won't be a trial. No doubt the resident one-man supreme court will be along to tell us we don't need trials when we have Facebook and its trained investigators, but I'd rather stick with the criminal justice system for now.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 02:47:06 PM

Ok. I do think everyones life would be impacted.

Do you think your life or the life of your family would be impacted if this happened assuming your are completely innocent?

Maybe this is difficult for you to comprehend but what happens if the person the vigilantes go to is completely innocent and this has been streamed live?

Prosecute them - can you not not comprehend that and for the last time as you and Hardy appear not have the facility to read properly.

What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.

So apart from trying to be a dick what point are you making to me, I haven't advocated violence nor these vigilantes - so your point? 




Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 02:49:00 PM
I disagree to be fair. Of course it will change their lives knowing their husband/ father is at this carry on.

To broadcast this for thousands of people to see and hear goes beyond what is right imo. Without doubt this is going to make things a hell of a lot worse for them.

We don't KNOW anything. And now will never find out because there won't be a trial. No doubt the resident one-man supreme court will be along to tell us we don't need trials when we have Facebook and its trained investigators, but I'd rather stick with the criminal justice system for now.

Yeah because based on your comments here - you just deal in facts?  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Rois on August 10, 2017, 03:05:43 PM
What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.

Just for clarity - to save you cumming over your hand trying to be a dick.
With that language on a public internet forum available for the world to read, you'd better hope no one is tracing you, or you'll find the vigilantes at your door!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 10, 2017, 03:05:48 PM
Tyrone Girl, just so I am not confused, are you stating the video is going to make their lives worse? If so how?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 03:11:15 PM
Is it not self explanatory? Surely you can see how much devastation that video would have on their lives. Finding out that kinda stuff is bad enough but i think its made ten times worse knowing all their family/ friends/ local people have watched that.


Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on August 10, 2017, 03:13:17 PM
To put it in a more personal context.

If some crowd landed at my door and accused my da of all sorts (if its true) would have a devastating affect on my life. To know that every tom dick and harry watched it on facebook live i can tell you that yes it would make things seem a hell of a lot worse.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: J70 on August 10, 2017, 03:14:32 PM
What happens if these morons pick the wrong house?

Is it really beyond the realms of possibility for a man, wrongly accused in front of his family and his community, of sex crime involving kids, to commit suicide?

"There's no justice like mob justice!"
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on August 10, 2017, 03:17:31 PM
Tyrone Girl, just so I am not confused, are you stating the video is going to make their lives worse? If so how?
As opposed to the more discreet and tactful way you'd imagine the peelers would handle it, with counselling etc? How the fcuk would it not?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.

Just for clarity - to save you cumming over your hand trying to be a dick.
With that language on a public internet forum available for the world to read, you'd better hope no one is tracing you, or you'll find the vigilantes at your door!

Is the darling of the gaaboard threatening me?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 10, 2017, 03:27:27 PM
Fair enough, but if you read your news online like most do you would know that this is generally how these groups operate, they record the confrontation.  I hate citing a rag like the daily mail but they thrive on this sort of thing and this is where you would find instance of this unfortunately on a monthly/bi-monthly basis:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4554732/Paedophile-hunters-snare-man-38-seeking-meet-girl-13.html
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on August 10, 2017, 03:41:49 PM
What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.

Just for clarity - to save you cumming over your hand trying to be a dick.
With that language on a public internet forum available for the world to read, you'd better hope no one is tracing you, or you'll find the vigilantes at your door!

Is the darling of the gaaboard threatening me?

It depends I guess, are you a paedo? If so, she might be barging into your house later with a camera.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on August 10, 2017, 05:19:52 PM
If you think there is wrongdoing, give all evidence to the police. Mob justice has no place in a civilised society. For starters, theres a higher chance theyve got the wrong person than if its the cops investigating it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on August 10, 2017, 05:41:59 PM
What happens if these morons pick the wrong house?

Is it really beyond the realms of possibility for a man, wrongly accused in front of his family and his community, of sex crime involving kids, to commit suicide?

"There's no justice like mob justice!"

There are cases of "peados" being murdered by self appointed vigilantes, who were totally innocent/mistaken identity etc.

Remember reading a case a few months ago in England about an Asian fella with special needs hounded to suicide by a similar mob
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on August 10, 2017, 06:14:39 PM
Fair enough, but if you read your news online like most do you would know that this is generally how these groups operate, they record the confrontation.  I hate citing a rag like the daily mail but they thrive on this sort of thing and this is where you would find instance of this unfortunately on a monthly/bi-monthly basis:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4554732/Paedophile-hunters-snare-man-38-seeking-meet-girl-13.html
It doesn't make it right. Indeed, it is wrong on a number of levels. It is apparent that this group feels that their fight for child protection vindicates their disregard of fair and regulated legal process.
Reading out the sickening details in front of the man's children and compounding it by live streaming their traumatic reaction on Facebook is a far cry from child protection and is absolutely disgusting IMO.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 08:31:37 PM
What about any criminal / sc**bag - should their trial be in secret in case an innocent family member is affected by what the tr**p did.  I have no time for these vigilantes but even less time for some pervert who thought he was going to meet a 13 year old for sex.

Just for clarity - to save you cumming over your hand trying to be a dick.
With that language on a public internet forum available for the world to read, you'd better hope no one is tracing you, or you'll find the vigilantes at your door!

Is the darling of the gaaboard threatening me?

It depends I guess, are you a paedo? If so, she might be barging into your house later with a camera.

You and Hardy must be one in the same with your witty retorts. ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on August 10, 2017, 09:20:30 PM
theres a show here called Dateline - my brother in law is a cop and has been one of the cops in the show who apprehends the perverts.
they talk to them online, are explicit about the age of the child the man is coming to meet for sex and give him an address - they have an undercover young looking cop who pretends to be the young girl - she walks out of the room and the tv cameras come in - they talk to the pervert, he leaves, the cops grab him outside...

the model i think is more effective in that it apprehends those who take action

i agree with tyrone girl on the effects on the family - in the above tv show it doesnt air for months aftwerwards - they have time to deal with it before it airs for the world to see...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on August 10, 2017, 09:45:58 PM
There is no place for any vigilantes in society.By their very nature they are a law unto themselves.Any information about any criminal activity should be passed on to the statutory forces of law and order.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 10, 2017, 09:57:11 PM
There is no place for any vigilantes in society.By their very nature they are a law unto themselves.Any information about any criminal activity should be passed on to the statutory forces of law and order.

Catholic church follows that advice!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: omaghjoe on August 10, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
there's no wides with a punt kick
 ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on August 10, 2017, 10:10:02 PM
Yes it does and always should have.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on August 10, 2017, 10:18:35 PM
I've no problem with people tackling paedophiles and have little regard for their well being. However the same as happens with punishment beatings here personal grudges can be bore out in them and they get an air of legitimacy, how often do we hear well he didn't get it for nothing even when people have no clue what they did get it for
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on August 10, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
there's no wides with a punt kick
 ::)
I'd be interested in his opinion on this thread right enough http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27474.60
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Main Street on August 10, 2017, 11:08:18 PM
there's no wides with a punt kick
 ::)
I'd be interested in his opinion on this thread right enough http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27474.60
All that mod power would corrupt Ziggy.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 10, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
there's no wides with a punt kick
 ::)
I'd be interested in his opinion on this thread right enough http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27474.60
Be careful what you wish for. The last post in that thread was a call for you to be purged!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 11, 2017, 02:17:42 AM
I'll just leave this here...
https://www.buzz.ie/news/man-incorrectly-identified-sex-offender-speaks-following-confrontation-kildarels-239819

Also surely any of these suspects can have their case thrown out for contempt of court? Before the police get to charge them they are being 'exposed, on the internet. Their solictor would surely say their client cannot get a fair trial?

Any legal minds on here, but as far as I knew you can't say anything if something is due up or in the courts?

Of course, being shamed on FB is much worse than a few years in jail on top of media coverage of any trial...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 11, 2017, 08:53:30 AM
Ok my opinion is swaying to some degree on this now.  From reading the original post the tone was that the video featuring the wife and daughter was causing the grief because they have featured on this, that’s how I interpreted it.  My point would be that had the group proposed for the man to meet his intended victim in a different town and confront him there on video would their misery be worse or the same?

Regarding these groups operating themselves, there are obvious pros and cons.  If they were to find them and turn solid evidence over to the authorities that would be the ideal situation, I wouldn’t advocate for mob justice.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 11, 2017, 09:22:51 AM
there's no wides with a punt kick
 ::)
I'd be interested in his opinion on this thread right enough http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=27474.60

Good idea for a thread, I would put Taylor on it for trying to be a dick and failing miserably (children eh!) and Rois for having a few babychams in her and making idle threats!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fat Angry Motorist on August 11, 2017, 10:25:05 AM
Why don't a crowd of us get together, arrive at punt kick's door with evidence of him being a complete idiot with several chips on his shoulder (I cite 188 examples on this forum alone) read them back to his parents/siblings (I'd bet my house on the fact he doesn't have a partner), film it and stick it up on FB and all have a good laugh.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: punt kick on August 11, 2017, 10:44:56 AM
Well done ONeill - as funny as ever!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: LeoMc on August 11, 2017, 01:27:00 PM
there's no wides with a punt kick
 ::)
That went down like Cold Tea.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 24, 2017, 07:00:03 PM
I see they snared a bloke from Tandragee last Friday morning and had their first sting in the South too recently in Kildare.Check out the Silent Justice Facebook Page videos.They really go to town when they move in and make sure the perpetrators are given maximum exposure,with full evidence!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Itchy on October 24, 2017, 07:05:07 PM
I see they snared a bloke from Tandragee last Friday morning and had their first sting in the South too recently in Kildare.Check out the Silent Justice Facebook Page videos.They really go to town when they move in and make sure the perpetrators are given maximum exposure,with full evidence!
Wait till they nab their first priest.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 24, 2017, 07:09:14 PM
Anyone snared deserves all they get.They do seem to be professional,filming all their actions while awaiting the Police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on October 24, 2017, 08:18:08 PM
Anyone snared deserves all they get.They do seem to be professional,filming all their actions while awaiting the Police.

Even the ones that are innocent ?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Boycey on October 24, 2017, 08:30:22 PM
Anyone snared deserves all they get.They do seem to be professional,filming all their actions while awaiting the Police.

Even the ones that are innocent ?

I came across a link to last weeks incident somewhere possibly Facebook, I only watched a little as it made me feel uncomfortable. I’m definitely not a fan of this kind of ‘justice’ . All they need to do is get it wrong once and they’ll destroy some poor sods life.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: armaghniac on October 24, 2017, 08:39:47 PM
I can receive 3 neighbours WiFi. Say I connect to their systems and use their IP number and come to the attention of these people. Do they burst into my neighbours house?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on October 24, 2017, 08:44:40 PM
Anyone snared deserves all they get.They do seem to be professional,filming all their actions while awaiting the Police.

Even the ones that are innocent ?

I came across a link to last weeks incident somewhere possibly Facebook, I only watched a little as it made me feel uncomfortable. I’m definitely not a fan of this kind of ‘justice’ . All they need to do is get it wrong once and they’ll destroy some poor sods life.

Thwy already have in England, at least once. Some fella topped himself after being door stepped & he was innocent.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on October 24, 2017, 08:45:51 PM
Don’t agree with it at all they accosted some fella from Dunloy at his door only for the wife and daughter to be there too screaming and crying wondering what was going on.

Why can’t they gather all their info then give it in to the authorities??

They want the grandstanding and the notoriety of being a vigilante it’s complete bullshit. The comments from the sheep then on FB telling them they’re great and keep up the good work. It’s a horrible business!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on October 24, 2017, 09:15:27 PM
Don’t agree with it at all they accosted some fella from Dunloy at his door only for the wife and daughter to be there too screaming and crying wondering what was going on.

Why can’t they gather all their info then give it in to the authorities??

They want the grandstanding and the notoriety of being a vigilante it’s complete bullshit. The comments from the sheep then on FB telling them they’re great and keep up the good work. It’s a horrible business!
that man killed himself shortly after - wife and children and wider family circle destroyed
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2017, 09:41:28 PM
Whatever about the professionalism of their videoing/due process and alerting the police - their running commentary, questioning and assertions are cringeworthy. I made myself watch that tandragee video and while that man has a world of justice coming his way, the man and woman "detaining" and questioning him were beyond embarrassing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 24, 2017, 09:45:43 PM
The videos I watched from Tandragee and Ballymena involved a male and female confronting the predators who were at a location actually waiting to meet a child,with reams of irrefutable evidence which they could not deny,all they could do was claim to be sorry,and assure they wouldn't actually have done anything had the kids been real and turned up (of course),but they in the end  admitted they'd sent explicit messages and videos and arranged to meet underage children at that time and place.Furthermore they recorded the whole interview and seemed to have concern for the predators safety until the Police arrived.

I cannot see a lot wrong with their approach,it does get a bit repetitive,but they seem to have gathered lots of evidence before they pounce,and know the exact time and venue of the "meeting".Would that bloke from Tandragee have been apprehended and in jail now if this group didn't exist? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on October 25, 2017, 02:43:27 PM
Why the need to broadcast these episodes live on facebook?  Gather their evidence, even confront these people (if they must) and then hand over everything to the authorities.  The facebook thing is totally unneccesary.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: TabClear on October 25, 2017, 03:30:20 PM
Why the need to broadcast these episodes live on facebook?  Gather their evidence, even confront these people (if they must) and then hand over everything to the authorities.  The facebook thing is totally unneccesary.

Exactly. No sympathy for any of the scumbags they "out" but the broadcasting is for selfish reasons. If they did as above it still delivers the scumbags to the police but it removes the risk of some innocent person getting wrongly accused and/or innocent members of a guilty person's family getting dragged into it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: rosnarun on October 25, 2017, 03:48:02 PM
the problem with all vigilante pricks is they see them self as some how above the law and incapable of making a mistake.
they destroyed that mans live withouy a court deciding wheter he had a case to answer or not. 
in My view if proved they should be charged with manslaughter.
Courts with barrister jurues and judges have been known to make terrible mistakes what chance have a a few hot heats with computers with  kinds of possible issues
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 25, 2017, 06:28:37 PM
Are they not doing it to maximise exposure to the predators? I have not seen one video where those confronted were not obviously guilty.Also if the live facebook broadcast deters paedophiles so much the better? I do not see much wrong about what they're doing to be honest and I think the approach makes the Police act much quicker as they're caught practically in the act.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on October 25, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
Are they not doing it to maximise exposure to the predators? I have not seen one video where those confronted were not obviously guilty.Also if the live facebook broadcast deters paedophiles so much the better? I do not see much wrong about what they're doing to be honest and I think the approach makes the Police act much quicker as they're caught practically in the act.

Are you just going to ignore that they have done this to innocent people? Who have then taken their own life.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 25, 2017, 07:38:40 PM
Every video I've seen without exception the predators have been forced to admit their wrongdoing in the light of damning evidence produced.I see no evidence of them approaching people who are innocent.Let's face it decoys have arranged the time and place of the meeting,that's how they know exactly where to be and when to snare the predators.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on October 26, 2017, 07:10:29 AM
It is horrible sh!t as others have said. There's a strong element of baiting involved and the publishing of the videos is as cruel as any medieval torture. The people conducting the stings seem to be in it for the wrong reasons and imo are motivated by the opportunity for glory and bullying "nonces" than protecting children. It's inevitable that the children of the men caught in these videos will be emotionally scarred by the public humiliation and ruination of their fathers. A lot of these stings are carried out on 18+ dating platforms and while the men caught would want to take a serious look at themselves, I don't believe it's an effective way to catch those who pose a serious risk to kids.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 07:22:28 AM
It's totally their own fault,humiliating their families.What's wrong with baiting? This group in my opinion is protecting children by trapping these scum before they do actual harm.Every one of them has turned up expecting to meet a real child,after a period of grooming.I ask the question again,would any of these be apprehended if this group did not exist?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2017, 07:41:35 AM
It's totally their own fault,humiliating their families.What's wrong with baiting? This group in my opinion is protecting children by trapping these scum before they do actual harm.Every one of them has turned up expecting to meet a real child,after a period of grooming.I ask the question again,would any of these be apprehended if this group did not exist?

You still haven’t answered Minders post... of course every video they produce on FB is going to the right one, they will hardly show one were they got it wrong!!

If they have evidence, give it to the police, social media justice, surprised at you T supporting something like this considering the keyboard warriors knocking the church for all its involvement in hiding perverts within the church.. but hey I think your agenda here is yourself
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on October 26, 2017, 08:13:25 AM
It's totally their own fault,humiliating their families.What's wrong with baiting? This group in my opinion is protecting children by trapping these scum before they do actual harm.Every one of them has turned up expecting to meet a real child,after a period of grooming.I ask the question again,would any of these be apprehended if this group did not exist?

For the decoy accounts have to create fake profiles which state their age as 18. They then tell them in the chat that they are underage but it's all very dubious. The men caught need a good fright and a kick up the hole but not their lives ruined imo.
"What's wrong with baiting?"
I would say that pretending to be a 14/15 year old on an 18+ dating site  who's looking to meet up with older men runs a serious risk of catching opportunistic men who wouldn't otherwise offend.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: TabClear on October 26, 2017, 08:16:45 AM
It's totally their own fault,humiliating their families.What's wrong with baiting? This group in my opinion is protecting children by trapping these scum before they do actual harm.Every one of them has turned up expecting to meet a real child,after a period of grooming.I ask the question again,would any of these be apprehended if this group did not exist?
"What's wrong with baiting?"
I would say that pretending to be a 14/15 year old on an 18+ dating site  who's looking to meet up with older men runs a serious risk of catching opportunistic men who wouldn't otherwise offend.

That's no excuse.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on October 26, 2017, 08:21:58 AM

I'm not excusing their behavior but I wouldn't rate these men as a serious risk. They could do with a good fright and a kick up the hole but ruining them and their families does way more harm than good imo.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 09:17:20 AM
Amazed at the comments here.It is quite simple,if one goes into a chat room and converses inappropriately with an underage child,continues to groom cunningly that underage child,and worst of all,travels (in some cases great distances) to meet that underage child,then one is an absolute danger to children,deserves to be exposed as such,and deserves to be locked up.

These are not people who simply merit a slap on the wrist,if they go to such lengths,they fully intended to engage in underage sexual activity,and are therefore a serious danger,not least to kids in their own families.

I assume if these hunters make a mistake,the identity of the mistaken person is never revealed to the public,no videos posted,and no harm done.They do seem to be very meticulous,and as I said before the predator himself has arranged the meeting,time and venue.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 26, 2017, 10:27:43 AM
what if they showed up at a priests door? Would you think differently Tony?

The thing with this group, and others like them, is are they doing it for a) the protection of the children b) their own self promotion. I suspect the latter as if it was really a they wouldn't have the need to broadcast it everywhere. A bit like donating to charity and then bragging about it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: LeoMc on October 26, 2017, 10:35:52 AM
Amazed at the comments here.It is quite simple,if one goes into a chat room and converses inappropriately with an underage child,continues to groom cunningly that underage child,and worst of all,travels (in some cases great distances) to meet that underage child,then one is an absolute danger to children,deserves to be exposed as such,and deserves to be locked up.

These are not people who simply merit a slap on the wrist,if they go to such lengths,they fully intended to engage in underage sexual activity,and are therefore a serious danger,not least to kids in their own families.

I assume if these hunters make a mistake,the identity of the mistaken person is never revealed to the public,no videos posted,and no harm done.They do seem to be very meticulous,and as I said before the predator himself has arranged the meeting,time and venue.

Were they not using Facebook live?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on October 26, 2017, 10:37:40 AM
Amazed at the comments here.It is quite simple,if one goes into a chat room and converses inappropriately with an underage child,continues to groom cunningly that underage child,and worst of all,travels (in some cases great distances) to meet that underage child,then one is an absolute danger to children,deserves to be exposed as such,and deserves to be locked up.

These are not people who simply merit a slap on the wrist,if they go to such lengths,they fully intended to engage in underage sexual activity,and are therefore a serious danger,not least to kids in their own families.

I assume if these hunters make a mistake,the identity of the mistaken person is never revealed to the public,no videos posted,and no harm done.They do seem to be very meticulous,and as I said before the predator himself has arranged the meeting,time and venue.

Why are you continually ignoring that they have done this to innocent people ?

Are you being deliberately obtuse ?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: NAG1 on October 26, 2017, 10:45:33 AM
Amazed at the comments here.It is quite simple,if one goes into a chat room and converses inappropriately with an underage child,continues to groom cunningly that underage child,and worst of all,travels (in some cases great distances) to meet that underage child,then one is an absolute danger to children,deserves to be exposed as such,and deserves to be locked up.

These are not people who simply merit a slap on the wrist,if they go to such lengths,they fully intended to engage in underage sexual activity,and are therefore a serious danger,not least to kids in their own families.

I assume if these hunters make a mistake,the identity of the mistaken person is never revealed to the public,no videos posted,and no harm done.They do seem to be very meticulous,and as I said before the predator himself has arranged the meeting,time and venue.

Why are you continually ignoring that they have done this to innocent people ? Yes he is

Are you being deliberately obtuse ? Yes he is

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on October 26, 2017, 11:04:11 AM
Someone shared a video of these guys on Facebook taking down a man who works (worked?) in Asda in west Belfast last week. I don’t know the exact methods of catching them but they had managed to lure this man out in the pretence of meeting a teenager outside his own work. They broadcast it live and it soon became apparent that the guy they targeted wasn’t the full shilling. It does raise the question of how to deal with perpetrators who have the same mental age as the people they think they’re meeting? Also, and I’m not sure if it was this video or another one, but one of the “hunters” is overheard saying something along the lines of “go to Thailand if you wanna f**k wee boys”. Seems they’re in it as much for themselves as anything else
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 11:31:21 AM
If they expose a so called priest or anyone else grooming children well and good.As far as I can see they are successfully exposing child predators and handing them to the Police and letting justice run its course.As far as I can see they have more than ample evidence and the predator arranges the meeting.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2017, 01:20:21 PM
Amazed at the comments here.It is quite simple,if one goes into a chat room and converses inappropriately with an underage child,continues to groom cunningly that underage child,and worst of all,travels (in some cases great distances) to meet that underage child,then one is an absolute danger to children,deserves to be exposed as such,and deserves to be locked up.

These are not people who simply merit a slap on the wrist,if they go to such lengths,they fully intended to engage in underage sexual activity,and are therefore a serious danger,not least to kids in their own families.

I assume if these hunters make a mistake,the identity of the mistaken person is never revealed to the public,no videos posted,and no harm done.They do seem to be very meticulous,and as I said before the predator himself has arranged the meeting,time and venue.

Were they not using Facebook live?

Whether they are live or not! If they get it wrong and don’t show it they have ruined a family as that won’t just be blown over as a sorry! Tony still avoiding Minders question as it doesn’t suit his agenda... maybe the pitch fork brigade works for you Tony but not for me!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: sid waddell on October 26, 2017, 01:25:10 PM
Apparently paedophiles have more in common genetically with crabs than they do with normal people.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2017, 01:50:10 PM
Apparently paedophiles have more in common genetically with crabs than they do with normal people.

Thats laterally the truth
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 02:11:42 PM
In answer to Minder's post.What's the difference between these guys coming to someone's door,by mistake,making wrong accusations,and the Police doing the same (which I assume happens frequently?).

From the videos I've seen,it is clear from early on,in every one of them,that the accused are as guilty as hell,and that almost a professional level of evidence gathering has taken place,and the predator himself has arranged the time and venue of the entrapment meeting.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
Is there any footage on the internet of a wrongful confrontation by these hunters? The videos I've seen,they always give the person confronted a chance early on  to explain themselves,but they never can,because the evidence is overwhelming.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: rosnarun on October 26, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
In answer to Minder's post.What's the difference between these guys coming to someone's door,by mistake,making wrong accusations,and the Police doing the same (which I assume happens frequently?).

From the videos I've seen,it is clear from early on,in every one of them,that the accused are as guilty as hell,and that almost a professional level of evidence gathering has taken place,and the predator himself has arranged the time and venue of the entrapment meeting.
the difference the cops hopefully dont briocast live .
when it come to child abuse the accused is guily for ever as soon as people hear of the accusations, even if they get off in court
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 03:34:21 PM
Well the only videos I see are those with irrefutable evidence with the suspect admitting his guilt fairly quickly.If this template is followed at all times,and the evidence is overwhelming,then I think it is a worthwhile service.

You have to admit they have snared many more predators,amassing much more evidence,than the Police ever will.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: nrico2006 on October 26, 2017, 03:37:57 PM
Someone shared a video of these guys on Facebook taking down a man who works (worked?) in Asda in west Belfast last week. I don’t know the exact methods of catching them but they had managed to lure this man out in the pretence of meeting a teenager outside his own work. They broadcast it live and it soon became apparent that the guy they targeted wasn’t the full shilling. It does raise the question of how to deal with perpetrators who have the same mental age as the people they think they’re meeting? Also, and I’m not sure if it was this video or another one, but one of the “hunters” is overheard saying something along the lines of “go to Thailand if you wanna f**k wee boys”. Seems they’re in it as much for themselves as anything else

Aye, it's like the girl in the Tandragee video where she was slabbering about your mans acorn?  Didn't seem very professional and was very cringeworthy to be honest.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 03:43:50 PM
Yes and the cops wouldn't taunt anyone,like calling George Best an Irish b**tard? In many ways videoing an "arrest" is preferable,you can see exactly what happened,ensure the person arrested wasn't maltreated,and hear the charges and evidence on which these are based.

As to General Lee's comment,a guy with learning disabilities raped an adult woman in a park outside Dungannon not so long ago.Does his learning disabilities make the crime any less reprehensible,particularly for the victim?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on October 26, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
This is a strange turn of events.

Tony, the GAAboard's chief apologist for institutionalised paedophilia, wants suspected paedophiles publicly shamed and convicted without trial.

He seems to have a real issue with reporting suspected paedophiles to the authorities.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 04:24:38 PM
Er,where have I defended paedophiles,ever? I objected to the torrent of abuse Cardinal Sean Brady got,for something he was dragged into over 40 years ago,but he did not abuse any children.

The real turn of events here is the advocacy that these predators should be let off with a slap across the wrist.If these hunters were catching loads of perverts masquerading as priests they would be praised to the high heavens (no pun intended) here.

From what I can see these groups are doing a good service here and are far more effective than the Police
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on October 26, 2017, 05:53:16 PM
As to General Lee's comment,a guy with learning disabilities raped an adult woman in a park outside Dungannon not so long ago.Does his learning disabilities make the crime any less reprehensible,particularly for the victim?
No it doesn’t but you’re missing the point. If someone with the mental age of twelve or whatever tries to meet a non-existent hypothetical 15 year old, do you think it’s the same as a 49 year old married man of sound body and mind trying to do the same? Do you think it should be dealt with in the same manner?

I actually would tend to agree with you, so long as these vigilante groups have rock solid evidence and don’t compromise police investigations they should be able to fire away at what they’re doing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 06:56:16 PM
We agree totally on your last sentence.From what I've seen the targets are 100% guilty.It amazes me how they all come out with or try common excuses like my account was hacked,she told me she was 19, I wasn't going to do anything,just wanted to meet her to tell her to wise up etc.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
We agree totally on your last sentence.From what I've seen the targets are 100% guilty.It amazes me how they all come out with or try common excuses like my account was hacked,she told me she was 19, I wasn't going to do anything,just wanted to meet her to tell her to wise up etc.

Why would you think a paedo wouldn’t try and get out of it by lying?

My problem with this is not the person getting caught. It’s the innocent people family that are dragged through it on a live Facebook screening !! You’d have to be a right p***k to think that’s ok

So you have the facts on how the police are doing compared to the hunters? Have you a link to those stats? Or you making this stuff up ?

Again you completely refused to answer Minders question, you asked a question, what’s the difference? While not answering, you’re intelligent enough..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2017, 08:28:40 PM
The key issue here is that irrespective of guilt or innocence by doing a public shaming and videoing it and distributing it live the vigilantes are potentially screwing up a good solid case by allowing the defendant to mark an argument that his due process was interferes with and will not get a fair trial. I know if I was the solicitor sitting in a station with this guy or any similar case I would be having this ‘evidence’ challenged at every turn around. What could potentially be a vey strong case would be cut to shreds on so many levels by any competent defence solicitor or barrister. This organisation may have the best intentions originally but by doing live shows I believe that it has become more about them than it has about the cause. Trust me if they have enough evidence they do not need to be showing it live. Just hand the recordings to the police and move on to the next one.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 26, 2017, 09:01:46 PM
This thread reminds me of one a fair few years back about a county man beating up this girlfriend and brothers in turn returned the favour (Apparently), a lot of conjuncture but apparently little evidence worth a damn in the courts.

The vigilantes are breaking the law as much as this man they visit,  Want to catch dodgy people join the police, otherwise your a law breaker like the person your after only not to the same perversion. if you do have evidence , give it to the police.

There was a UDA man a few year ago was caught for sex with underage girls, i couldn't see this group been brave enough to pop up at his door and not be on he receiving end of a fire arm
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 09:04:54 PM
I am no lawyer,but surely with that guy last Friday from Tandragee,there is no defence.He was effectively caught and recorded at the scene of the crime and admitted everything during the recording.He has already appeared in court and is now in jail on remand.

This is typical of their modus operandi, i.e. Catching and recording the full admission of predators at the crime scene.How can any barrister,now matter how good,put up any sort of defence under those circumstances?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2017, 09:12:01 PM
I am no lawyer,but surely with that guy last Friday from Tandragee,there is no defence.He was effectively caught and recorded at the scene of the crime and admitted everything during the recording.He has already appeared in court and is now in jail on remand.

This is typical of their modus operandi, i.e. Catching and recording the full admission of predators at the crime scene.How can any barrister,now matter how good,put up any sort of defence under those circumstances?

Admissions made without having his rights read to him are not likely to be admissible or if they are they will be challenged. Any solicitor worth his salt would have had him make a no comment interview after preparing a statement denying that he was aware that he was doing anything wrong or that he was aware that the ‘victim’ was underage. I’m not says my he will be acquired but I wouldn’t be surprised if his case was pleaded down to a misdemeanour with no or minimal jail time.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 26, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
Tony, youve been told already there's videos of them accusing people who were innocent and the consequences were tragic. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not true. I don't believe they are truly in it for the protection of children but more for the notoriety.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on October 26, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
Innocent or not, everyone is entitled to a fair and regulated legal process. If they have evidence of an offence, they can simply pass this on to the peelers. I'm not sure what kick they get from live streaming these people or what they believe is to be gained from it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 26, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Is it just me or is a bit weird for middle-aged men to pretend to be preteen boys and girls and engaging in sexual talk with other middle aged men?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on October 26, 2017, 09:48:04 PM
Is it just me or is a bit weird for middle-aged men to pretend to be preteen boys and girls and engaging in sexual talk with other middle aged men?
Just because you've never had 1000 likes.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Tonto.They have mass public support and judging by the Silent Justice page seem to be successful getting convictions and sex register entries.Its the instant publicity that makes the predators squirm not the Police,and I think they are providing a great service.
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Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on October 26, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
FAO Tony.
They do good work but....

“Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.”
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 10:09:29 PM
Is the whole purpose of filming these cretins admitting they were preying on underage girls not to simply humiliate them and inform and warn the public who may live in their vicinity? It doesn't strike me as being for egotistical reasons
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2017, 10:15:33 PM
Tonto.They have mass public support and judging by the Silent Justice page seem to be successful getting convictions and sex register entries.Its the instant publicity that makes the predators squirm not the Police,and I think they are providing a great service.
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Tony have you backed up those stats yet? Have the hunted brought in more sex offenders than the police, or do you completly believe everything you see on internet?

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on October 26, 2017, 10:17:50 PM
Is the whole purpose of filming these cretins admitting they were preying on underage girls not to simply humiliate them and inform and warn the public who may live in their vicinity? It doesn't strike me as being for egotistical reasons
Tony, God's people are not cretins but some have strayed to the path of sin.

Many of these cretins have been able to live their lives in their own area without being a danger to anyone....until "Data analyst, John from Woking, pretending to be a 14 year old girl", said 'Hi' on an 18+ internet chat forum.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 26, 2017, 10:56:51 PM
Tonto.They have mass public support and judging by the Silent Justice page seem to be successful getting convictions and sex register entries.Its the instant publicity that makes the predators squirm not the Police,and I think they are providing a great service.
.

Tony. You are completely ignoring the fact they have broadcast live videos of them accusing innocent people and the tragic consequences. What if that was someone you knew? Your priest? A family member?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 26, 2017, 11:03:57 PM
I can only go by the videos I've watched and the ample evidence provided which in all cases has produced admissions on camera.This model is sound
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 26, 2017, 11:06:02 PM
I can only go by the videos I've watched and the ample evidence provided which in all cases has produced admissions on camera.This model is sound

but you cant actually claim they are doing better than the police? Just answer that simple one for me
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: sid waddell on October 27, 2017, 12:42:48 AM
Is it just me or is a bit weird for middle-aged men to pretend to be preteen boys and girls and engaging in sexual talk with other middle aged men?
You'd nearly think paedophiles might join such a group to give them cover...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 02:02:09 AM
I am no lawyer,but surely with that guy last Friday from Tandragee,there is no defence.He was effectively caught and recorded at the scene of the crime and admitted everything during the recording.He has already appeared in court and is now in jail on remand.

This is typical of their modus operandi, i.e. Catching and recording the full admission of predators at the crime scene.How can any barrister,now matter how good,put up any sort of defence under those circumstances?
How many suicides have been provoked , Tony? All God's work, presumably.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on October 27, 2017, 04:44:00 AM
I am no lawyer,but surely with that guy last Friday from Tandragee,there is no defence.He was effectively caught and recorded at the scene of the crime and admitted everything during the recording.He has already appeared in court and is now in jail on remand.

This is typical of their modus operandi, i.e. Catching and recording the full admission of predators at the crime scene.How can any barrister,now matter how good,put up any sort of defence under those circumstances?
How many suicides have been provoked , Tony? All God's work, presumably.
A lot of suicides and a lot of family homes targeted by idiots in the aftermath of these videos.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on October 27, 2017, 05:04:52 AM
Tonto.They have mass public support and judging by the Silent Justice page seem to be successful getting convictions and sex register entries.Its the instant publicity that makes the predators squirm not the Police,and I think they are providing a great service.
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I'm confused by your interpretation of Christianity Tony. The church preaches forgiveness and the possibility that people can change. The public nature of the vilification here drives these men to suicide in some instances and ostracises them from society in others. There is no second chance for them. I understand how you can support the rest of the work these groups do but I'm baffled at how, as a Christian, you can justify the live videos.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 27, 2017, 05:43:44 AM
I've no idea why you lads even bother with Fearon anymore.

He's a one trick pony.

Anyone who says that they would disown their own child if they came out as homosexual is a reprehensible "human being"

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Puckoon on October 27, 2017, 05:57:32 AM
Tonto.They have mass public support and judging by the Silent Justice page seem to be successful getting convictions and sex register entries.Its the instant publicity that makes the predators squirm not the Police,and I think they are providing a great service.
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I'm confused by your interpretation of Christianity Tony. The church preaches forgiveness and the possibility that people can change. The public nature of the vilification here drives these men to suicide in some instances and ostracises them from society in others. There is no second chance for them. I understand how you can support the rest of the work these groups do but I'm baffled at how, as a Christian, you can justify the live videos.

Tony is the ultimate Christian

Blessed are the poor in spirit - sorry, wait - let me try again
Blessed are the meek - sorry, wait - let me try again
Blessed are those who hunger (hey oh), and thirst for gratitude - sorry, wait - let me try again
Blessed are the MERCIFUL - sorry, wait - let me try again
Blessed are the pure in heart - sorry, wait - let me try again
Blessed are the peacemakers - sorry, wait - let me try again

Thankfully for Tony - there isn't a blessed are the humble, cause he'd be righteously fucked.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 07:49:37 AM
Excuse me while I laugh at the hypocrisy.A former Cardinal was viciously vilified on this Board mercilessly,and he didn't abuse anyone.Another poster,continually named a Priest convicted for child abuse offences from my own town,simply to have a go at me,and no one batted an eyelid or expressed any concern for his family.Also is it not a fact that victims of child abuse have frequently committed suicide?

Whether a predator is caught by the Police or by Hunters,sooner or later his name is going to be in the public domain anyway (e g Tom Humphries) so videoing the actual trap and interview makes no difference.So long as there is the painstaking gathering of evidence to leave no doubt as to the guilt,which has been the case in every video I've seen,then it's fine.The Police have neither the time nor resources to carry out this work.

If this technology and resource had been available in a previous era and used to trap the likes of Brendan Smyth,would any of you have objected?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on October 27, 2017, 08:23:32 AM
Excuse me while I laugh at the hypocrisy.A former Cardinal was viciously vilified on this Board mercilessly,and he didn't abuse anyone.Another poster,continually named a Priest convicted for child abuse offences from my own town,simply to have a go at me,and no one batted an eyelid or expressed any concern for his family.Also is it not a fact that victims of child abuse have frequently committed suicide?

Whether a predator is caught by the Police or by Hunters,sooner or later his name is going to be in the public domain anyway (e g Tom Humphries) so videoing the actual trap and interview makes no difference.So long as there is the painstaking gathering of evidence to leave no doubt as to the guilt,which has been the case in every video I've seen,then it's fine.The Police have neither the time nor resources to carry out this work.

If this technology and resource had been available in a previous era and used to trap the likes of Brendan Smyth,would any of you have objected?

This is my one and only comment on this. After all the discussions on this you just don't get it do you!

While he didn't directly abuse anyone he was complicit its cover up. Whether that was through naivety, stupidity, trying to cover it up to protect the church, a combination of these or whatever is completely irrelevant. The fact is he was part of this and it was his duty as a decent human being, as it is with any of us, to do everything in his/our power to stop the abuse of children. It's that simple. This he failed do to. It's this simple fact that sticks in the throat of any decent thinking person.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 08:44:04 AM
And I will re iterate once again, he did his duty,within his powers,as a young junior priest,recorded what he heard,and this is the crucial part,he informed his superiors accurately and honestly what he heard.Thus ended his minor role in this escapade,there was no suppression of information or attempt to distort or cover up on his part,the failure was on the part of those higher up the food chain who received his information.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2017, 08:45:52 AM
Brady was 41 years of age at that time.
I believe he was repaid for his subservience. A man who they could trust.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 09:25:08 AM
Not rehashing this argument again.By the way he was 36 at the time,and the Vice President in our school,a priest,was still administering corporal punishment with a thick leather strap.You knew your place,you did not question,and it was not out of ambition for the future either.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: sid waddell on October 27, 2017, 09:47:45 AM
Men posing as 12 year old girls in chat rooms, as members of this group do, would surely be a form of transgenderism, yes?

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 27, 2017, 10:05:45 AM
I can only go by the videos I've watched and the ample evidence provided which in all cases has produced admissions on camera.This model is sound

ok, so somebody outside the catholic church who only has news reports etc about priests abusing young boys is totally ok to have the opinion that that is all the catholic church does
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on October 27, 2017, 10:16:56 AM
Er,where have I defended paedophiles,ever? I objected to the torrent of abuse Cardinal Sean Brady got,for something he was dragged into over 40 years ago,but he did not abuse any children.

The real turn of events here is the advocacy that these predators should be let off with a slap across the wrist.If these hunters were catching loads of perverts masquerading as priests they would be praised to the high heavens (no pun intended) here.

From what I can see these groups are doing a good service here and are far more effective than the Police

Numerous times.  I could show you evidence but you'd just ignore it so there's no point.  You are an apologist for institutionalised paedophilia whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Keyser soze on October 27, 2017, 10:19:16 AM
Ah ffs do we hafta go down this road again. This is an interesting subject that throws up some interesting moral dilemnas, can they not be addressed rather than the interminable Cardinal Brady saga which has already polluted umpteen threads.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 10:21:40 AM
I agree.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2017, 10:34:33 AM
I knew the minute Tony got into this thread that this would be his main twist!! The guy is a retard and not really interested in the topic at, just another platform to defend the church and try to make some sort of connection with it! Nuts
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 27, 2017, 10:47:39 AM
I knew the minute Tony got into this thread that this would be his main twist!! The guy is a retard and not really interested in the topic at, just another platform to defend the church and try to make some sort of connection with it! Nuts

To be fair I don't think Tony brought the church into this one. He just fails to see how the live videotape by of this can go horribly wrong
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Boycey on October 27, 2017, 10:48:06 AM
Yis are gas lads, I'd bet good money that Tony doesn't actually think what these people are doing is appropriate but as usual he has people dancing around him to his tune.............
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2017, 11:03:14 AM
There is no place for any vigilantes in society.By their very nature they are a law unto themselves.Any information about any criminal activity should be passed on to the statutory forces of law and order.

I find this strange
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 11:37:58 AM
By vigilantes I mean't people taking the law into their own hands.But after seeing how these guys operate,and the fact that they do hand everything over to the Police,that doesn't invalidate my original statement really.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2017, 11:39:28 AM
By vigilantes I mean't people taking the law into their own hands.But after seeing how these guys operate,and the fact that they do hand everything over to the Police,that doesn't invalidate my original statement really.

Well thats cleared that up  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dire Ear on October 27, 2017, 11:57:31 AM
There is no place for any vigilantes in society.By their very nature they are a law unto themselves.Any information about any criminal activity should be passed on to the statutory forces of law and order.

I find this strange

.......pass on relevant criminal activity..........hmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on October 27, 2017, 02:34:36 PM
Are vigilantes just for sex crimes?

https://youtu.be/IJdGMNY_MDQ
Are there any  for white collar crimes?

Another depressing modern throwback is slavery.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 07:34:36 PM
On news tonight,Down man with over one million images of child sex on his computer.PSNI failed to detect that he was also distributing these,and missed a chance to bust a paedophile ring😡.And you're telling me we should leave these things to the Police?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on October 27, 2017, 07:55:17 PM
On news tonight,Down man with over one million images of child sex on his computer.PSNI failed to detect that he was also distributing these,and missed a chance to bust a paedophile ring😡.And you're telling me we should leave these things to the Police?

or Sean Brady?   >:(
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 08:14:48 PM
? Sean Brady was remotely connected,by taking notes of allegations (at that stage unproven) made against one person,not a ring.But hey,let your irrational Anti Catholicism twist and distort the facts to match your hatred.Sad.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on October 27, 2017, 08:16:55 PM
? Sean Brady was remotely connected,by taking notes of allegations (at that stage unproven) made against one person,not a ring.But hey,let your irrational Anti Catholicism twist and distort the facts to match your hatred.Sad.

Involved in the cover-up of sex abuse. Be consistent Tony...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 27, 2017, 11:57:43 PM
Yeah whatever. I am tasked by my boss to research and report back to him on a problem.I do this faithfully and conscientiously,yet unbeknown to me,his response was ineffective.40 years later I am hung out to dry when I did my job properly.😤.

In other news the Silent Justice team in the North snared a 72 year old grooming a 13 year old girl online.FFS neither of my late parents could master a video recorder machine when they were in their 60s,much less go online.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 12:15:03 AM
Yeah whatever. I am tasked by my boss to research and report back to him on a problem.I do this faithfully and conscientiously,yet unbeknown to me,his response was ineffective.40 years later I am hung out to dry when I did my job properly.😤.

In other news the Silent Justice team in the North snared a 72 year old grooming a 13 year old girl online.FFS neither of my late parents could master a video recorder machine when they were in their 60s,much less go online.

If your child was raped and your local bishop knew but didn’t tell the relevant law authorities you’d be a happy man because he did tell other people ? who allowed him to continue with his raping ? You truly are a strange being
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 12:18:20 AM
Read carefully. He was a young relatively powerless priest in his mid 30s,not a Bishop.Read as often as you need to understand.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 28, 2017, 12:21:22 AM
Read carefully. He was a young relatively powerless priest in his mid 30s,not a Bishop.Read as often as you need to understand.
Since when was mid-30s young?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 12:26:10 AM
Read carefully. He was a young relatively powerless priest in his mid 30s,not a Bishop.Read as often as you need to understand.

Priest bishop teacher bricklayer !!! I fail to see your logic
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on October 28, 2017, 12:32:46 AM
Read carefully. He was a young relatively powerless priest in his mid 30s,not a Bishop.Read as often as you need to understand.

Priest bishop teacher bricklayer !!! I fail to see your logic

that's because there is no logic just blinded by the church
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
We'll try again.He reported what he heard accurately to his superiors.He did not attempt to distort,cover up etc.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on October 28, 2017, 10:59:04 AM
We'll try again.He reported what he heard accurately to his superiors.He did not attempt to distort,cover up etc.

But it was covered up and that makes him complicit...... Well played though on this thread.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 11:23:27 AM
We'll try again.He reported what he heard accurately to his superiors.He did not attempt to distort,cover up etc.

Tony tell that to the kids that were raped after the church and your mate covered it up.. did nothing, he done his job so he was alright! The Nazis said the same thing but must were hung
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 11:42:31 AM
Would you include the parents also who knew but did not inform the authorities?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 28, 2017, 11:46:09 AM
Read carefully. He was a young relatively powerless priest in his mid 30s,not a Bishop.Read as often as you need to understand.
Since when was mid-30s young?

Careful now. I'm a young 37.

Maybe he means you no for a priest?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on October 28, 2017, 11:46:57 AM
Would you include the parents also who knew but did not inform the authorities?

Why would they not have informed the authorities?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 11:53:16 AM
Would you include the parents also who knew but did not inform the authorities?

So you think the parents then should have said something also? So by that logic you agree then that Brady should have said something to the relevant authorities ? Can’t back out of that Tony
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 12:43:39 PM
I am saying simply if Brady (and a lot more Senior Clergy who he informed)should have said something to the authorities,so also,by logic should the parents.So you cannot blame the clergy without blaming the parents,who were equally knowledgable.Can't back out of that MR2?

Today the situation is changed radically.Priests facing charges of child abuse,complain they are instantly disowned by the church.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 01:19:04 PM
I am saying simply if Brady (and a lot more Senior Clergy who he informed)should have said something to the authorities,so also,by logic should the parents.So you cannot blame the clergy without blaming the parents,who were equally knowledgable.

So by not doing it along with those parents whom you say were told not to say anything by the same priests, were wrong and in so complicit in covering up more raping of innocent kids?

That’s fine then so Brady (in your words) was covering up rapes
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 28, 2017, 01:21:34 PM
I am saying simply if Brady (and a lot more Senior Clergy who he informed)should have said something to the authorities,so also,by logic should the parents.So you cannot blame the clergy without blaming the parents,who were equally knowledgable.

Maybe they did and we’re not listened to. Ireland the the 70’s and 80’s was ruled by the church with an iron fist. Can you imagine the fear in the mind of some poor young person who is making these allegations?  Who would believe the ....that’s what they were thinking and I know that from speaking to people from that time. The reason that paedophiles get away with it is because they target vulnerable children who are generally from difficult backgrounds where there are issues at home. The partners didn’t  have the capacity to challenge them. Brady et al failed in their fiduciary and Christian responsibly to act and were completely complicit in the horrendous cover up and if there is a hell they are burning fiercely in it now as should anyone who try to defend their actions or lack of actions .... if they believe in hell.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: laoislad on October 28, 2017, 01:30:04 PM
Fearon blaming the parents is nothing new. Sure he has even said before that the kids themselves were at fault for saying nothing.
I very much doubt also that every parent of every kid that was being abused knew it was happening whereas Brady would have known about multiple cases and still did nothing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 01:45:08 PM
Put it this way.Would Social Services today consider parents who did not inform statutory authorities that their children were being abused,by someone,within or without the family,fit to remain guardians of their children?

Laoislad,you know nothing of what Brady knew or didn't know,you weren't there.In the specific case of his dealings with allegations made about Smyth the parents said they knew.So quite simply and logically if Brady is to be blamed for not telling the Police,so should the parents shoulder the blame.They knew.

I've already recounted my experience in a work situation as a student,at around the same time,in the latter part of the 70s. Two Young boys were abused by a worker at a leisure centre,they told their parents,Parents immediately told the Police,guy was arrested,charged,convicted and jailed.Good parenting,simple as that.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 02:00:06 PM
Put it this way.Would Social Services today consider parents who did not inform statutory authorities that their children were being abused,by someone,within or without the family,fit to remain guardians of their children?

Laoislad,you know nothing of what Brady knew or didn't know,you weren't there.In the specific case of his dealings with allegations made about Smyth the parents said they knew.So quite simply and logically if Brady is to be blamed for not telling the Police,so should the parents shoulder the blame.They knew.

I've already recounted my experience in a work situation as a student,at around the same time,in the latter part of the 70s. Two Young boys were abused by a worker at a leisure centre,they told their parents,Parents immediately told the Police,guy was arrested,charged,convicted and jailed.Good parenting,simple as that.

So by the parents as much to blame as Brady that would mean Brady is to blame... thanks for clearing that up
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 28, 2017, 02:00:22 PM
My work experience....2 boys repeatedly abused....parents knew but due to dependency issues did not have the capacity. Reported to a Christian Brother....ignored and not believed. Abuse continued. One became a drug adidct with multiple suicide attempts the other became an abuser himself, which is very common. If they had been believed when they were 9 & 11 this may not have happened. Who do you blame there Tony?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 02:19:00 PM
I blame the scummy  paedophile who committed the abuse.But there's no getting away from it,if you believe Sean Brady didn't do enough in telling his superiors of the allegations he heard,then by the same logic,you must believe the parents also didn't do enough.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 02:26:21 PM
I blame the scummy  paedophile who committed the abuse.But there's no getting away from it,if you believe Sean Brady didn't do enough in telling his superiors of the allegations he heard,then by the same logic,you must believe the parents also didn't do enough.

Didn’t tell the correct authorities (police) and allowed Smyth to continue.. if the parents did then they have to answer to that as well... but I’m glad you have agreed Brady allowed it continue
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 02:33:38 PM
Allowed to continue? Do you think that was his intention? He told his superiors,the parents knew,so by your logic they all were complicit in "allowing it to continue" But I'm glad the simple logic is getting home,if you consider Sean Brady to be guilty,you must consider the parents equally so.

Wouldn't it have been much better if the parents had gone straight to the Police,like the parents that I referred to earlier at the leisure centre did,in 1978?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 02:45:20 PM
Allowed to continue? Do you think that was his intention? He told his superiors,the parents knew,so by your logic they all were complicit in "allowing it to continue" But I'm glad the simple logic is getting home,if you consider Sean Brady to be guilty,you must consider the parents equally so.

Wouldn't it have been much better if the parents had gone straight to the Police,like the parents that I referred to earlier at the leisure centre did,in 1978?

You keep talking rubbish Tony, Sean Brady knew Smyth was just moved and continued to molest and rape children.. that’s also a simple fact you agree

Your story of your experience is based on that... stop bringing up other stories to make a point, fact remains Sean took information from Brady and didn’t go to the police to have this monster put behind bars... how you continually defend this shows you up pretty badly

On you side track story, did the leisure centre not go to police? They talked to parents first and harboured information on a sex offender? The Leisure centre management are as bad as Brady then
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 02:57:49 PM
You know nothing about Sean Brady.He was most probably glad to get away from this situation after having done honestly what was asked.Hundreds of people could and should have stopped Smyth.Jimjy Savile etc.

The Leisure Centre management was not involved in the case I witnessed,the Parents went straight to the Police to report the offender,after being told by their children.Proper parenting,if only all parents had acted like this whenever they became aware that their children were being abused.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 03:00:58 PM
You know nothing about Sean Brady.He was most probably glad to get away from this situation after having done honestly what was asked.Hundreds of people could and should have stopped Smyth.Jimjy Savile etc.

The Leisure Centre management was not involved in the case I witnessed,the Parents went straight to the Police to report the offender,after being told by their children.Proper parenting,if only all parents had acted like this whenever they became aware that their children were being abused.

You know nothing about Brady as he hid all that from his flock until it came to light, id say he’s sorry, sorry he got caught
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 03:11:49 PM
I'm sure like all of us,he is not proud in hindsight of a mistake,and knowing this would be highlighted by anti Catholics due to him being Cardinal.But he admitted his involvement and regret.I still share the views of the Protestant religious correspondent,Alf Mc Creary,Belfast Telegraph,who described him as a good and holy man,whose long ministry should not be defined by this.He certainly should not beat himself up.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Boycey on October 28, 2017, 03:59:40 PM
Blah blah f**king blah
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on October 28, 2017, 05:01:51 PM
I'm sure like all of us,he is not proud in hindsight of a mistake,and knowing this would be highlighted by anti Catholics due to him being Cardinal.But he admitted his involvement and regret.I still share the views of the Protestant religious correspondent,Alf Mc Creary,Belfast Telegraph,who described him as a good and holy man,whose long ministry should not be defined by this.He certainly should not beat himself up.
Alf McCreary is a heretic since he is a Protestant . Brady ensured a child rapist was not arrested. Many more kids were violated.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 05:14:29 PM
I'm sure like all of us,he is not proud in hindsight of a mistake,and knowing this would be highlighted by anti Catholics due to him being Cardinal.But he admitted his involvement and regret.I still share the views of the Protestant religious correspondent,Alf Mc Creary,Belfast Telegraph,who described him as a good and holy man,whose long ministry should not be defined by this.He certainly should not beat himself up.

Tony you don’t get it... it’s nothing to do with priest catholic or anything holy! This man was in a position to stop this, have a man arrested, and prevent anyone else from being raped!

Wouldn’t matter if it was a teacher/doctor/youth worker or bricklayer he didn’t tell the proper authorities...

Never use his age or the fact that he passed that information on to others as an excuse
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 05:26:42 PM
Technically I agree with you,but so also could the parents,by your own logic.As I said before hundreds could have stopped Brendan Smyth,singling out just one is biased to say the least.

Whose to say the Police wouldn't have done what they did with the Priest who was strongly suspected of taking innocent lives by bombing Clady,and moving him to another parish across the border in alleged connivance with the Catholic Church and the British Government.Cardinal Conway arguably deserves much more stick for this than Sean Brady peripheral role as an interviewer when a junior priest.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2017, 05:49:00 PM
Tiny put you back to 80’s... would you tell police?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 07:24:38 PM
The Police should have been told immediately from the start of time,as they are today.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 28, 2017, 09:41:52 PM
Allowed to continue? Do you think that was his intention? He told his superiors,the parents knew,so by your logic they all were complicit in "allowing it to continue" But I'm glad the simple logic is getting home,if you consider Sean Brady to be guilty,you must consider the parents equally so.

Wouldn't it have been much better if the parents had gone straight to the Police,like the parents that I referred to earlier at the leisure centre did,in 1978?
Why Tony?
Weren't the kids sworn to secrecy?
Weren't the parents under the impression that Smyth's depredations would be dealt with and he would no longer be a menace to children?
Aren't you trolling away like f**k, same as always? :D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on October 28, 2017, 10:03:37 PM
Sworn to secrecy? No one has ever made me swear to anything? Look it is well known and the Church itself knows these matters were handled wrongly.But the simple fact is that if you consider those who knew but didn't go to the Police,you have to include the parents as well as clerics.Now the Police are informed immediately.I bet the Church wishes it had adopted this approach from day one
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: macdanger2 on November 19, 2017, 10:17:01 PM
Some Irish man arrested in Leeds trying to meet a 13yo. An RTÉ employee apparently
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on November 20, 2017, 01:27:56 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/rte-producer-appears-in-court-on-charges-of-attempting-to-meet-child-groomed-online-36335896.html
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Avondhu star on November 20, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
Some Irish man arrested in Leeds trying to meet a 13yo. An RTÉ employee apparently

I always knew there was something dodgy about Dustin and Bosco. As for Zig and Zag well what can you say?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on November 20, 2017, 04:24:15 PM
What makes intelligent people do this?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Sandino on November 20, 2017, 04:27:20 PM
The same thing that makes people post nasty hateful remarks after someone dies on the Death Notices thread.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: johnneycool on November 20, 2017, 04:30:42 PM
What makes intelligent people do this?

What has intelligence got to do with sexual deviancy?

I'm sure the most reverend Fr Brendan Smyth got a good education at the seminary.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Avondhu star on November 20, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
What makes intelligent people do this?

Arrogance. They actually believe that they are too intelligent to be caught by mere police. How many people have been caught after using their own credit cards and computer to buy child pornography? They ignore the fact that police forces, intelligence agencies etc actually cooperate with each other. So its either arrogance or else their brain is in the hanging muscle
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on November 20, 2017, 09:02:47 PM
I'm trying to get in the mind of a paedophile,in the modern day.Is the perversion so great that they actually believe a child will turn up? In the altogether more innocent days of my childhood it was drummed into us day and daily not to talk to,accept sweets from or get into cars with grown ups who may approach us that are unknown to us.In this day and age the with well known existence of predator hunter groups,it still doesn't prevent 50 something RTÉ producers from walking straight into traps,not that I have any sympathy for him for doing so,mind you.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: johnneycool on November 21, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
I'm trying to get in the mind of a paedophile,in the modern day.Is the perversion so great that they actually believe a child will turn up? In the altogether more innocent days of my childhood it was drummed into us day and daily not to talk to,accept sweets from or get into cars with grown ups who may approach us that are unknown to us.In this day and age the with well known existence of predator hunter groups,it still doesn't prevent 50 something RTÉ producers from walking straight into traps,not that I have any sympathy for him for doing so,mind you.

Go have a word with your mate Brady, he's spoken to loads of them in his time as a "notary".
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on November 21, 2017, 03:15:17 PM
I know Fearon is reaping what he's sewn but f**k it's getting tiresome seeing him being pulled on nearly  every comment he makes.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dire Ear on November 21, 2017, 04:57:56 PM
I know Fearon is reaping what he's sewn but f**k it's getting tiresome seeing him being pulled on nearly  every comment he makes.
Disagree
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on November 21, 2017, 05:21:45 PM
I know Fearon is reaping what he's sewn but f**k it's getting tiresome seeing him being pulled on nearly  every comment he makes.

Correct but the same boy doesn’t seem to give an F.  :D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 10, 2018, 09:52:37 AM
https://twitter.com/BBCNolan/status/951025605721706497

Another innocent man with his name blackened by these attention seekers!!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on January 10, 2018, 10:13:52 AM
 Norn Irn style

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/uda-attacks-men-named-as-paedophiles-by-facebook-vigilante-group-36474106.html
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 10, 2018, 02:25:22 PM
Norn Irn style

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/uda-attacks-men-named-as-paedophiles-by-facebook-vigilante-group-36474106.html
Not surprising, their “security” teams are made up of bouncers and doormen. They actually need stopped, they’re doing more harm than good, innocent people getting wrongly named or their property attacked, solicitors having their businesses openly sullied for representing the pedos!?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: haranguerer on January 10, 2018, 02:57:29 PM
They never did any good. It was always complete attention seeking. How much more careful are paedophiles now due to these videos? How much harder is it for the police to catch them as a result?

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on January 10, 2018, 05:46:40 PM
Tony has still not seen any evidence of mistaken identity  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 10, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
I'm trying to get in the mind of a paedophile,in the modern day.Is the perversion so great that they actually believe a child will turn up? In the altogether more innocent days of my childhood it was drummed into us day and daily not to talk to,accept sweets from or get into cars with grown ups who may approach us that are unknown to us.In this day and age the with well known existence of predator hunter groups,it still doesn't prevent 50 something RTÉ producers from walking straight into traps,not that I have any sympathy for him for doing so,mind you.

They did an experiment one time where they spoke to some parents at a park, the parents assured them that their kids would never go off with a stranger, and then with the parents' permission they proceeded to put the kids to the test with a bogus story about puppies or something. The number of kids who went off with these strangers was surprisingly high.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 11, 2018, 01:43:58 PM
They never did any good. It was always complete attention seeking. How much more careful are paedophiles now due to these videos? How much harder is it for the police to catch them as a result?

I would look at it from a different angle how many of them are now wary of trying to contact children online, and how many have been exposed for what they are whether it's with a court sentence or just to their own local community generally.

Its very unfortunate of course that there have been innocent people accused but generally from what I've seen they generally organise to meet up somewhere public and then approach them if they hadn't shown up to meet a child they wouldn't have got caught. The cops make plenty of mistakes lifting people as well.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 01:57:23 PM
Just give the info to the cops and let them deal with it! The damage its doing to others (family) is well over the top, its not their problem nor in most cases they never knew it was there in the first place, then wham!! cameras and live links to social media sites..


I think there was a brother of one that was caught and he was being attacked in his home by the baying mob who thouhgt it was him!!! mistaken identity!!

While the concept is great, just give the info to the peelers, cause if youre that interested in dealing with it right then give over all the information and stop attracting attention, they'll have their own show next on channel 5

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: JoG2 on January 11, 2018, 02:06:08 PM
Just give the info to the cops and let them deal with it! The damage its doing to others (family) is well over the top, its not their problem nor in most cases they never knew it was there in the first place, then wham!! cameras and live links to social media sights..


I think there was a brother of one that was caught and he was being attacked in his home by the baying mob who thouhgt it was him!!! mistaken identity!!

While the concept is great, just give the info to the peelers, cause if youre that interested in dealing with it right then give over all the information and stop attracting attention, they'll have their own show next on channel 5

I'd agree. I know (not personally) the chap who is the self styled paedo hunter in a county Derry town. He's (and I hate using the word) a total sc**bag, has a criminal record as long as your arm, and keeps a few social workers in full time employment !
Get info, give to cops, jobs a goodin
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 11, 2018, 10:32:19 PM
They've just caught a wee fella in carryduff area in a Gaa jersey
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2018, 10:35:22 PM
They've just caught a wee fella in carryduff area in a Gaa jersey

Does TF live out that direction?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: haranguerer on January 12, 2018, 09:54:24 AM
They've just caught a wee fella in carryduff area in a Gaa jersey

Does TF live out that direction?

?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on January 13, 2018, 05:34:29 PM
There's a video of that incident. Those lads and ladies are a shower of c***ts and they'll get themselves into trouble soon enough. Performing citizen's arrests, banging out legal shite they don't understand, bringing their own "security" with them. "Paedophile hunters" my f**king hole. They're nothing more than vigilantes and attention seeking gobshites. They'll have nobody to blame but themselves when they get a well deserved kicking.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2018, 05:40:53 PM
Watched one there on Banbridge! Complete balloons! Go to the cops with the info and move on to the next guy
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 13, 2018, 10:57:00 PM
Still fail to see what the problem is.I have yet to see one sting where the person confronted isn't as guilty as hell,the evidence they amass is wholly convincing and irrefutable.

Also they provide a good information service to the public to expose and identify these nonces so that people who live in their vicinity and even make their own family members are aware of them and the dangers they pose.This exposure might never happen via the traditional Police route,if they are unable to persuade the PPS to act.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 13, 2018, 11:13:04 PM
Still fail to see what the problem is.I have yet to see one sting where the person confronted isn't as guilty as hell,the evidence they amass is wholly convincing and irrefutable.

Also they provide a good information service to the public to expose and identify these nonces so that people who live in their vicinity and even make their own family members are aware of them and the dangers they pose.This exposure might never happen via the traditional Police route,if they are unable to persuade the PPS to act.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNolan/status/951025605721706497
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 12:16:23 AM
Has not once answered any of this information put to him!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on January 14, 2018, 05:03:39 AM
There's a video of that incident. Those lads and ladies are a shower of c***ts and they'll get themselves into trouble soon enough. Performing citizen's arrests, banging out legal shite they don't understand, bringing their own "security" with them. "Paedophile hunters" my f**king hole. They're nothing more than vigilantes and attention seeking gobshites. They'll have nobody to blame but themselves when they get a well deserved kicking.
Yep. Protecting kids certainly isn't the motivation. It's about bullying "nonces", a blood sport for the social media age. These people and their fans are bullies. The line they trot out that "if we hadn't been here a real 14 year old would have" is highly dubious.

Also it's a criminal offence to use threatening or abusive language against someone. Why are they allowed to record themselves calling someone :"a filthy nonce" or similar, as they do numerous times in these videos, with impunity? In a bygone era these kinds of people would have beaten up gays and black people but they've found the perfect victim now, a group of people that society will never defend.

They might occasionally catch someone who's genuinely dangerous but they're still c#€ts.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 07:09:07 AM
Great to see the sympathy for paedophiles on this thread.Oh and the hypocrisy as well,given the vile abuse dished out to Cardinal Sean Brady (who wasn't a paedophile) on other threads,which was as vicious as I've seen used by any of these hunters.

I take the view that the average police man or woman couldn't find their ass in the dark.

From what I've seen without exception,these people gather reams of evidence before confronting the accused.Their interrogation is all about exposing and shaming,an excellent public service.It may also prove to be a deterrent.

Their approval rating among the public is extremely high,and I see nothing wrong with this.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2018, 07:46:32 AM
Were these people victims of abuse themselves or what is their reasoning for doing what they do? Can't say I'm a big fan.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on January 14, 2018, 08:16:39 AM
Great to see the sympathy for paedophiles on this thread.Oh and the hypocrisy as well,given the vile abuse dished out to Cardinal Sean Brady (who wasn't a paedophile) on other threads,which was as vicious as I've seen used by any of these hunters.

I take the view that the average police man or woman couldn't find their ass in the dark.

From what I've seen without exception,these people gather reams of evidence before confronting the accused.Their interrogation is all about exposing and shaming,an excellent public service.It may also prove to be a deterrent.

Their approval rating among the public is extremely high,and I see nothing wrong with this.
There's a big difference between molesting real-life pre-pubescent children and what the men caught in these stings were doing. Neither is ok but there's a big difference.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 08:21:39 AM
Great to see the sympathy for paedophiles on this thread.Oh and the hypocrisy as well,given the vile abuse dished out to Cardinal Sean Brady (who wasn't a paedophile) on other threads,which was as vicious as I've seen used by any of these hunters.

I take the view that the average police man or woman couldn't find their ass in the dark.

From what I've seen without exception,these people gather reams of evidence before confronting the accused.Their interrogation is all about exposing and shaming,an excellent public service.It may also prove to be a deterrent.

Their approval rating among the public is extremely high,and I see nothing wrong with this.

Still refusing to see the evidence that they have got it wrong and people have got hurt because of it!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 14, 2018, 09:08:09 AM
I listened to the radio the other day and the police woman who heads the team that deals with this stuff sounded extremely exasperated.  No convictions, only a handful of arrests, lots of the ‘evidence’ gathered by these groups inadmissible, there is a f**king due process there for s reasin ..... to stop innocents going to jail. These vigilante groups subvert that due process. One was on the radio the other day and the arrogance dripping from his words was shocking. The whole ‘we are better than the police!’  Let them do what they are doing up to the point of challengeing these suspected people. Thereafter give it to the police to finish the job right. Once they go to Facebook videos there’s only 1 thing really crave and that is attention....ironic who their main fan on here is!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 09:22:35 AM
Milltown Row,so the Police never get it wrong?


So if you turn up to commit a murder but the other person isn't there,that's ok? How many people,guilty as hell,get off Scot free for all sorts of crimes due to bullshittery  legal technicalities or inadmissible evidence?

The people who turn up expecting to meet children are full bona fide paedophiles who have been grooming what they thought were children.These groups are,without fear or favour,exposing them to the public and their own family members.This for me is the key point,not whether crap like evidence being admissible to get a conviction is there,or due process which only enriches the legal profession and helps the guilty escape justice.The law is a joke,but at least with these stings the public and their own families now know that they are paedophiles and can act to protect children.

If these people crave attention,why do they keep their faces hidden and use false names? Total bullshit.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 14, 2018, 09:30:18 AM
Tony you say the law is a joke?  What do you want....a gang to turn up with torches and pitchforks and sort them out?  It’s not perfect but the legal system we have in place is one of the better ones on the world. Miscarriages happen and will always happen but the amount of them in comparison to the mount of incorrect decisions is minuscule.

I honestly do not understand the motivation of these people once they go all Roger Cook and do the video challenges .... any good legal team rips this apart and the paedophile walks away. Once they do that and publish it their motivation flips from trying to help potential victims to trying to satisfy their own God complex’s and that is wrong.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 09:42:29 AM
They are exposing paedophiles to the public.That's the main thing.The public sadly has no confidence in the law doing likewise.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2018, 09:43:54 AM
What about the ones they get wrong?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 10:07:55 AM
What about the ones the Police get wrong? Birmingham 6,Guildford 4 etc.

I have not seen one video yet where they have been wrong.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
They have been wrong. Sure they posted out for a car repair man to fix a car where they had scraped pedo on the wrong car. (Yes it was that spelling).

The law has been wrong too. You can get exhonerated by the law but can you get exhonerated by these guys? I really wouldn't think so.

They need to work with the police if they are to do anything. Vigilante justice is not the answer.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 10:30:34 AM
They have been right but some people have mistaken people with similar names.

Until the Police come up with an equally effective method of identifying and exposing  paedophiles,then in my view they are providing a good effective service.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 10:56:38 AM
They have been right but some people have mistaken people with similar names.

Until the Police come up with an equally effective method of identifying and exposing  paedophiles,then in my view they are providing a good effective service.

No they ain’t! Give all the info to the police, concentrate on that, perfect use of time and they could get a lot more, at the minute they sound like a bunch of toe rags cursing their way through these incidents, giving off about the police and media and questioning the sex pests like they are Judge Judy Ffs, completely embarrassing tbh and if any of these people get off because of the tactics they are using then they will put more children at harm
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
They have been right but some people have mistaken people with similar names.

Until the Police come up with an equally effective method of identifying and exposing  paedophiles,then in my view they are providing a good effective service.

The car one was completely wrong to the best of my knowledge and a different person with the same name is still completely wrong and dangerous.

We would see how effective you thought they were if some boy called tony fearon who wasn't you meant your name got blackened.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on January 14, 2018, 12:11:30 PM
Why don't they target white collar crime?
Even murderers look down on paedophiles. Maybe it has something to do with that. And the serious stuff keeps on happening.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 14, 2018, 12:17:54 PM
Why don't they target white collar crime?
Even murderers look down on paedophiles. Maybe it has something to do with that. And the serious stuff keeps on happening.

Worrying comment sir... paedophilia is as serious as it gets
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 14, 2018, 12:37:56 PM
They've just caught a wee fella in carryduff area in a Gaa jersey

Does TF live out that direction?

Bloody hope not. I moved here for the quiet life & to avoid all riff raff!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: LeoMc on January 14, 2018, 01:33:24 PM
Great to see the sympathy for paedophiles on this thread.Oh and the hypocrisy as well,given the vile abuse dished out to Cardinal Sean Brady (who wasn't a paedophile) on other threads,which was as vicious as I've seen used by any of these hunters.

I take the view that the average police man or woman couldn't find their ass in the dark.

From what I've seen without exception,these people gather reams of evidence before confronting the accused.Their interrogation is all about exposing and shaming,an excellent public service.It may also prove to be a deterrent.

Their approval rating among the public is extremely high,and I see nothing wrong with this.
No hypocrisy. BothBrady and these hoods are being condemned for not bringing their evidence to the police and allowing due process.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on January 14, 2018, 01:42:59 PM
They do bring their evidence to police. The problem is that they post these videos live on Facebook which undermines the judicial process and actually works to the detriment of the case brought against these people. They do this simply for self promotion.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 14, 2018, 01:46:04 PM
Seemed to be a catch in Dungannon last nite near the cinema... was posted on Facebook
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 02:15:21 PM
Do it for self promotion, yet they assume false names and keep themselves well off camera!😂😂😂😂😂 Some totally stupid people here.

More like they're showing the useless police up. As I say they are shaming paedophiles and fully exposing them,giving good warning to the public at large,regardless whether  the useless police and farcical legal system ultimately fail to get a conviction.That's their main benefit.They have enormous public support,to the  extent now if the were banned there'd be a General Public outcry.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 14, 2018, 02:21:26 PM
Do it for self promotion, yet they assume false names and keep themselves well off camera!😂😂😂😂😂 Some totally stupid people here.

More like they're showing the useless police up. As I say they are shaming paedophiles and fully exposing them,giving good warning to the public at large,regardless whether  the useless police and farcical legal system ultimately fail to get a conviction.That's their main benefit.They have enormous public support,to the  extent now if the were banned there'd be a General Public outcry.

says he who defends the catholic church institution for the systematic cover-up of child rape. Ussuns and themmuns
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MK on January 14, 2018, 02:28:55 PM
Seemed to be a catch in Dungannon last nite near the cinema... was posted on Facebook

A very high profile sportsman from Newry area interviewed live on Facebook over allegations this morning.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: BennyCake on January 14, 2018, 02:47:21 PM
Here, what's this all about?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 14, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
Do it for self promotion, yet they assume false names and keep themselves well off camera!😂😂😂😂😂 Some totally stupid people here.

More like they're showing the useless police up. As I say they are shaming paedophiles and fully exposing them,giving good warning to the public at large,regardless whether  the useless police and farcical legal system ultimately fail to get a conviction.That's their main benefit.They have enormous public support,to the  extent now if the were banned there'd be a General Public outcry.
They’re bullies, and they’ve found a legitimate way to channel their bullying nature into practice. I watched that carryduff one, all it exposed was how pathetic these people are and how out of their depth they are.

They’ve zero training, no regulation and next to no success when it comes to actual convictions.

They by chance saw the fella on their way to his house and confronted him in a car park, his dad then showed up after about ten mins, also by chance and was given no opportunity to speak to his son briefly in private or process what he had just been told. Instead the millie “child protection enforcer” told him “touch me again and I’ll knock your f**k out” when a brief scuffle broke out. Now they say they record it so that if anyone is assaulted it is all caught on camera yet none of this is seen in the video?

This target was only 19 and they say they usually don’t go for offenders this young but the stuff this guy came out with was bad enough to make their decoy cry which begs the question why do this if you haven’t any training and aren’t prepared for what you might have to see/read? They say they’re better than the police yet the police have to deal with far worse during the course of their work!

They’d be better off promoting the importance of supervising children’s internet usage and what apps are more high risk instead of wasting their time on these moral crusades which seem to waste more police time and what it is worth
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 14, 2018, 03:09:22 PM
Great to see the sympathy for paedophiles on this thread.Oh and the hypocrisy as well,given the vile abuse dished out to Cardinal Sean Brady (who wasn't a paedophile) on other threads,which was as vicious as I've seen used by any of these hunters.

I take the view that the average police man or woman couldn't find their ass in the dark.

From what I've seen without exception,these people gather reams of evidence before confronting the accused.Their interrogation is all about exposing and shaming,an excellent public service.It may also prove to be a deterrent.

Their approval rating among the public is extremely high,and I see nothing wrong with this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNolan/status/951025605721706497
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 14, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
Milltown Row,so the Police never get it wrong?


So if you turn up to commit a murder but the other person isn't there,that's ok? How many people,guilty as hell,get off Scot free for all sorts of crimes due to bullshittery  legal technicalities or inadmissible evidence?

The people who turn up expecting to meet children are full bona fide paedophiles who have been grooming what they thought were children.These groups are,without fear or favour,exposing them to the public and their own family members.This for me is the key point,not whether crap like evidence being admissible to get a conviction is there,or due process which only enriches the legal profession and helps the guilty escape justice.The law is a joke,but at least with these stings the public and their own families now know that they are paedophiles and can act to protect children.

If these people crave attention,why do they keep their faces hidden and use false names? Total bullshit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNolan/status/951025605721706497
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Don Johnson on January 14, 2018, 03:17:12 PM
Selfish f**kers might have cost us a medal in the Gold Coast now.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on January 14, 2018, 03:37:26 PM
Their approval rating among the public is extremely high,and I see nothing wrong with this.

Listen to "anonymous from Ballyclare" on the BBC link. If that's the "general public support" these groups garner, I don't see why any self respecting intelligent person would want to be associated with them at all.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 04:06:08 PM
Milltown Row,so the Police never get it wrong?


So if you turn up to commit a murder but the other person isn't there,that's ok? How many people,guilty as hell,get off Scot free for all sorts of crimes due to bullshittery  legal technicalities or inadmissible evidence?

The people who turn up expecting to meet children are full bona fide paedophiles who have been grooming what they thought were children.These groups are,without fear or favour,exposing them to the public and their own family members.This for me is the key point,not whether crap like evidence being admissible to get a conviction is there,or due process which only enriches the legal profession and helps the guilty escape justice.The law is a joke,but at least with these stings the public and their own families now know that they are paedophiles and can act to protect children.

If these people crave attention,why do they keep their faces hidden and use false names? Total bullshit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNolan/status/951025605721706497

Tony obviously can’t open that link as he refuses to respond to it.. which says more about Tony if he does see it but refuses to engage..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 05:30:23 PM
So like the Police they make mistakes (but far fewer than the Police).

The Police get relatively few convictions,on account a lot of the time, of their own c**k ups.

These groups are exposing paedophiles who have groomed what they thought to be children, so people know who they are and can take steps to protect their children.I for one support this fully.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 14, 2018, 05:42:13 PM
Unless the totally blessed & blameless Sean Brady is up to his neck in it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2018, 07:55:33 PM
So like the Police they make mistakes (but far fewer than the Police).

The Police get relatively few convictions,on account a lot of the time, of their own c**k ups.

These groups are exposing paedophiles who have groomed what they thought to be children, so people know who they are and can take steps to protect their children.I for one support this fully.

They are advertising for people to help them.

What qualifications do you need to help them? As well as the fact that it is pure vigilante justice and they could ruin innocent peoples lives this knd f thing has the potential to go very wrong.

What if they film someone who gets violent and even is potentially armed? What if the person doing the video gets violent?

I really do not think the whole thing is well advised at all.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 08:11:47 PM
I can only go by the videos I've seen which without exception have featured

1.Well documented evidence

2.Assuring the culprit will not be harmed.

3.Giving the culprit a chance to offer a feasible explanation

4.Await the arrival of the Police.

As long as these are maintained I have no problem.Neither have I a problem with aggressive questioning or watching the humiliation of guilty people.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 14, 2018, 08:14:08 PM
I can only go by the videos I've seen which without exception have featured

1.Well documented evidence

2.Assuring the culprit will not be harmed.

3.Giving the culprit a chance to offer a feasible explanation

4.Await the arrival of the Police.

As long as these are maintained I have no problem.Neither have I a problem with aggressive questioning or watching the humiliation of guilty people.

why do you watch these videos?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 14, 2018, 08:16:09 PM
I can only go by the videos I've seen which without exception have featured

1.Well documented evidence

2.Assuring the culprit will not be harmed.

3.Giving the culprit a chance to offer a feasible explanation

4.Await the arrival of the Police.

As long as these are maintained I have no problem.Neither have I a problem with aggressive questioning or watching the humiliation of guilty people.
Wonder if someone else called Tony Fearon got stung and you ended up having your name dragged into it and property attacked would you change your tune?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2018, 08:16:28 PM
I can only go by the videos I've seen which without exception have featured

1.Well documented evidence

2.Assuring the culprit will not be harmed.

3.Giving the culprit a chance to offer a feasible explanation

4.Await the arrival of the Police.

As long as these are maintained I have no problem.Neither have I a problem with aggressive questioning or watching the humiliation of guilty people.
People who've no problem with Lynch mobs just like Lynch mobs. Very Christian.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 14, 2018, 08:17:16 PM
I can only go by the videos I've seen which without exception have featured

1.Well documented evidence

2.Assuring the culprit will not be harmed.

3.Giving the culprit a chance to offer a feasible explanation

4.Await the arrival of the Police.

As long as these are maintained I have no problem.Neither have I a problem with aggressive questioning or watching the humiliation of guilty people.

Unless, of course, they happen to hold office in the church of Rome.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 08:23:41 PM
Lynch mobs lynch.These groups rightly set traps for paedophiles,snare them,expose them to the general public and hand them over,unharmed,along with overwhelming evidence to the Police.

This has worked very well in the case of an RTE Sports producer and led him to losing his job and shortly a custodial sentence.If these groups didn't exist,this guy would never have been caught.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 14, 2018, 08:24:53 PM
Lynch mobs lynch.These groups rightly set traps for paedophiles,snare them,expose them to the general public and hand them over,unharmed,along with overwhelming evidence to the Police.

This has worked very well in the case of an RTE Sports producer and led him to losing his job and shortly a custodial sentence.If these groups didn't exist,this guy would never have been caught.

or if Sean Brady was their boss
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 08:30:33 PM
Lynch mobs lynch.These groups rightly set traps for paedophiles,snare them,expose them to the general public and hand them over,unharmed,along with overwhelming evidence to the Police.

This has worked very well in the case of an RTE Sports producer and led him to losing his job and shortly a custodial sentence.If these groups didn't exist,this guy would never have been caught.

So up to this point no paedos have been caught by police through sting operations ! You are a numpty lol
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 08:58:26 PM
I can only go by the videos I've seen which without exception have featured

1.Well documented evidence

2.Assuring the culprit will not be harmed.

3.Giving the culprit a chance to offer a feasible explanation

4.Await the arrival of the Police.

As long as these are maintained I have no problem.Neither have I a problem with aggressive questioning or watching the humiliation of guilty people.
Wonder if someone else called Tony Fearon got stung and you ended up having your name dragged into it and property attacked would you change your tune?

Tony is a well-insured property mogul ffs.  He's the Donald Trump of the s**thole that's Poyntzpass!  Getting his property damaged is cash in'the bank!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 09:06:21 PM
If the Police announced a Tony Fearon has been arrested and charged with grooming a child I'd run the exact same risk of mistaken identity.

From the videos I've seen these groups are practically professional in evidence gathering etc.As long as they don't overstep the mark I do not have a problem
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 14, 2018, 09:13:08 PM
Suppose you've a fan of the KKK?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
These groups do no physical harm and act without fear or favour
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2018, 09:43:36 PM
No one doubts what they are trying to achieve but they are going the wrong way about it. Something bad will come out of this.

Though you are probably on the wind up anyway as topic of wind up seems irrelevant so any rational points are no doubt irrelevant  :o
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 09:48:57 PM
No one doubts what they are trying to achieve but they are going the wrong way about it. Something bad will come out of this.

Though you are probably on the wind up anyway as topic of wind up seems irrelevant so any rational points are no doubt irrelevant  :o

Tony finds a topic to use as a means to defend his friends in Rome... though I’ve a few jokes ready once they pass away that Tony should find funny
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 10:07:17 PM
I never have,don't and never will defend paedophiles and fully support all efforts to identify them within legal means by all groups and individuals,statutory agencies or volunteers
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Main Street on January 14, 2018, 10:12:33 PM
So like the Police they make mistakes (but far fewer than the Police).

The Police get relatively few convictions,on account a lot of the time, of their own c**k ups.

These groups are exposing paedophiles who have groomed what they thought to be children, so people know who they are and can take steps to protect their children.I for one support this fully.

They are advertising for people to help them.

What qualifications do you need to help them? As well as the fact that it is pure vigilante justice and they could ruin innocent peoples lives this knd f thing has the potential to go very wrong.

What if they film someone who gets violent and even is potentially armed? What if the person doing the video gets violent?

I really do not think the whole thing is well advised at all.
They appear to be following a formula to catch the pedophile which satisfies legal requirements, enough to be regarded as bona fide testimony in court. It would appear they have received schooling re  how far they can go to trap  and how to document all exchanges.  They have to avoid entrapment.
I don't like this broadcasting the confrontation/citizens arrest, though the English police themselves set an awful example, are fond of these high profile perp walk type shenanigans in front of the press and have wrought havoc in the lives of innocent people.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 10:22:30 PM
What don't you like about the public humiliation of people who turn up to meet what they think are children who they have been grooming,prior to handing them over along with concrete evidence to the Police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 10:49:17 PM
One thing I don’t like is their unprofessionalism in how they speak! They sound like tramps, but the main main thing is the ability to f**k up a chance to convict people with their amateur approach
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 14, 2018, 10:54:49 PM
What don't you like about the public humiliation of people who turn up to meet what they think are children who they have been grooming,prior to handing them over along with concrete evidence to the Police.

What about the guy in Dunloy where they knocked his front door and the scumbags wife and daughter were then subject to the ordeal??

Just because these dick's aren't announcing their names on facebook doesn't mean they aren't telling all and sundry in their own community about their "good work".
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
The sc**bag brought them to their door,and they do make it clear the family are completely innocent and that people should stay away.

I have absolutely no problem with what they're doing,from what I've seen it is within the law.

In fact I'd like to see more vigilante/community volunteering groups like these,operating within the law, helping for example to prevent scum breaking into elderly people's homes etc.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2018, 11:03:04 PM
The sc**bag brought them to their door,and they do make it clear the family are completely innocent and that people should stay away.

I have absolutely no problem with what they're doing,from what I've seen it is within the law.

In fact I'd like to see more vigilante/community volunteering groups like these,operating within the law, helping for example to prevent scum breaking into elderly people's homes etc.

It’s a pity they weren’t around when than gang of priests were raping children and then the ones that protected them !
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 11:05:17 PM
I agree with you.All paedophiles,including those masquerading as clerics,in any era,should have had no hiding place.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: hardstation on January 14, 2018, 11:13:51 PM
The sc**bag brought them to their door,and they do make it clear the family are completely innocent and that people should stay away.


That’s some comfort to a teenage girl who can be heard crying in the background as a load of inappropriate shite is read out to her da (and indeed her). A traumatic enough time for her without it being broadcast live on Facebook for all to see. From a group that prides itself on child protection. Arseholes.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 14, 2018, 11:44:04 PM
Who is to blame? I'm afraid it is the sc**bag father trying to groom children.They go to great lengths to protect the relatives of these scumbags,making sure they are not featured on camera and telling people not to show up and that the relatives are innocent.

This phenomenon is only going to grow,it certainly won't go away,so get used to it.Its effectiveness has been proven,like everything else it is not perfect
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 14, 2018, 11:50:24 PM
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the cops are trying to stymie these groups because they are afraid of who'll end up being caught. If it's straight on Facebook there's no sweeping it under the rug when a few thousand people have seen it live
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Syferus on January 15, 2018, 12:04:27 AM
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the cops are trying to stymie these groups because they are afraid of who'll end up being caught. If it's straight on Facebook there's no sweeping it under the rug when a few thousand people have seen it live

More like cops have never liked vigilantism..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2018, 12:07:52 AM
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the cops are trying to stymie these groups because they are afraid of who'll end up being caught. If it's straight on Facebook there's no sweeping it under the rug when a few thousand people have seen it live

But don’t sweep it under the rug! use a bitta sense Ffs! Get as many as you can with plenty information recorded and publish it once they are convicted! I don’t see anything wrong with that.

If the police don’t press charges certainly press it further, what’s happening now is justice served by buck eejits with a camera!

 Will you be happy when they highlight you neighbour who’s not paying his Tv licence or the guy claiming the dole while working two jobs or the guy down the street who’s part of the dissent groups!

 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 15, 2018, 12:15:37 AM
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks the cops are trying to stymie these groups because they are afraid of who'll end up being caught. If it's straight on Facebook there's no sweeping it under the rug when a few thousand people have seen it live

But don’t sweep it under the rug! use a bitta sense Ffs! Get as many as you can with plenty information recorded and publish it once they are convicted! I don’t see anything wrong with that.

If the police don’t press charges certainly press it further, what’s happening now is justice served by buck eejits with a camera!

 Will you be happy when they highlight you neighbour who’s not paying his Tv licence or the guy claiming the dole while working two jobs or the guy down the street who’s part of the dissent groups!

As a good citizen you should be reporting them to the cops anyway. It's not comparable anyway as doing the double or not paying a tv license isn't considered a serious nor violent crime.

That young boxer that was put up today the group say they were forced to do it as the cops wouldn't take the charges further they believe due to his reputation, so at least there's one case you agree with
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2018, 12:19:21 AM
Surely all crimes are crimes? You cherry picking now? Hmm bit daft don’t you think? What about tax evasion? I’d already mention dissidents they ok also? Or historic crimes? Do you find them ok also?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 15, 2018, 12:32:09 AM
Surely all crimes are crimes? You cherry picking now? Hmm bit daft don’t you think? What about tax evasion? I’d already mention dissidents they ok also? Or historic crimes? Do you find them ok also?

These people seem to be focused on paedophiles, stopping child abuse and exposing preparators of these acts and that's the merits I take them on.

Crime is crime is crime is that what you're saying. Obviously I differ from you, I don't base my moral compass on the law and my intuition is any genuine efforts to prevent the abuse of minors to be applauded whether by private citizens or police forces.

You never said if you supported the efforts earlier as the group believed the police had failed to act on their own intel.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Syferus on January 15, 2018, 12:51:55 AM
Surely all crimes are crimes? You cherry picking now? Hmm bit daft don’t you think? What about tax evasion? I’d already mention dissidents they ok also? Or historic crimes? Do you find them ok also?

These people seem to be focused on paedophiles, stopping child abuse and exposing preparators of these acts and that's the merits I take them on.

Crime is crime is crime is that what you're saying. Obviously I differ from you, I don't base my moral compass on the law and my intuition is any genuine efforts to prevent the abuse of minors to be applauded whether by private citizens or police forces.

You never said if you supported the efforts earlier as the group believed the police had failed to act on their own intel.

Vigilantism has inherent flaws and it has zero to do with anyone’s moral compass.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on January 15, 2018, 07:07:42 AM
The internet has exposed the dark side of human society. . It facilitates ethnic cleansing and the murder of untouchables . And it gives the UDA a purpose.

How many people have killed themselves after being outed by these scumbags? Everyone has the right to the presumption of innocence and the right to privacy. 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/11/facebook-former-executive-ripping-society-apart

"Facebook has also faced significant criticism for its role in amplifying anti-Rohingya propagandain Myanmar amid suspected ethnic cleansing of the Muslim minority.

A former Facebook executive has said he feels “tremendous guilt” over his work on “tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works”, joining a growing chorus of critics of the social media giant.

Chamath Palihapitiya, who was vice-president for user growth at Facebook before he left the company in 2011, said: “The short-term, dopamine-driven feedback loops that we have created are destroying how society works. No civil discourse, no cooperation, misinformation, mistruth.” The remarks, which were made at a Stanford Business School event in November, were just surfaced by tech website the Verge on Monday.

“This is not about Russian ads,” he added. “This is a global problem ... It is eroding the core foundations of how people behave by and between each other.”"
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2018, 07:56:21 AM
Surely all crimes are crimes? You cherry picking now? Hmm bit daft don’t you think? What about tax evasion? I’d already mention dissidents they ok also? Or historic crimes? Do you find them ok also?

These people seem to be focused on paedophiles, stopping child abuse and exposing preparators of these acts and that's the merits I take them on.

Crime is crime is crime is that what you're saying. Obviously I differ from you, I don't base my moral compass on the law and my intuition is any genuine efforts to prevent the abuse of minors to be applauded whether by private citizens or police forces.

You never said if you supported the efforts earlier as the group believed the police had failed to act on their own intel.

You obviously haven’t read any of my posts!

I believe the concept of finding paedos is brilliant, and stings are a great way of capturing them, but that’s where it stops for me, give that info to the police and move on to the next guy, let the justice system (flaws it may have but that’s what we work off) do its thing..

My moral compass is fine and not needed to be question by you either, your moral compass seems to stuck though, as your happy enough for other crimes to be given a by ball!

Abuse of minors takes many forms, watching your father be blown up or shot as he opened the door, or being told that he was killed on the way to work, again your moral compass seems stuck on one direction
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 15, 2018, 09:08:48 AM
Surely all crimes are crimes? You cherry picking now? Hmm bit daft don’t you think? What about tax evasion? I’d already mention dissidents they ok also? Or historic crimes? Do you find them ok also?

These people seem to be focused on paedophiles, stopping child abuse and exposing preparators of these acts and that's the merits I take them on.

Crime is crime is crime is that what you're saying. Obviously I differ from you, I don't base my moral compass on the law and my intuition is any genuine efforts to prevent the abuse of minors to be applauded whether by private citizens or police forces.

You never said if you supported the efforts earlier as the group believed the police had failed to act on their own intel.

You obviously haven’t read any of my posts!

I believe the concept of finding paedos is brilliant, and stings are a great way of capturing them, but that’s where it stops for me, give that info to the police and move on to the next guy, let the justice system (flaws it may have but that’s what we work off) do its thing..

My moral compass is fine and not needed to be question by you either, your moral compass seems to stuck though, as your happy enough for other crimes to be given a by ball!

Abuse of minors takes many forms, watching your father be blown up or shot as he opened the door, or being told that he was killed on the way to work, again your moral compass seems stuck on one direction

Where we differ is I don't believe everything that is determined as a crime in this country is wrong, and that stretches pretty far from certain political actions (and I'm not in support of any armed campaign if that's what you are hinting at) to Joe soap smoking a joint on his sofa.

And another thing I don't even like One Direction.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
nothing wrong with a bit of one direction!

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on January 15, 2018, 12:44:28 PM
Just watched a couple of these stings on facebook last night.

The way they behaved in them really pissed of me off. Their language/ behaviour/ unprofessionalism etc doesnt sit well with me.

I find myself wanting to go through the screen and punch one of them.

Whatever about the person doing wrong who the hell are they to tell anyone that they cant leave the area and they are held under some section blah blah blah.

The one with the 21 year old the other night was full of them telling him " we are leaving u now and we dont give a f**k if you get your head kicked in etc"

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 15, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
Just watched a couple of these stings on facebook last night.

The way they behaved in them really pissed of me off. Their language/ behaviour/ unprofessionalism etc doesnt sit well with me.

I find myself wanting to go through the screen and punch one of them.

Whatever about the person doing wrong who the hell are they to tell anyone that they cant leave the area and they are held under some section blah blah blah.

The one with the 21 year old the other night was full of them telling him " we are leaving u now and we dont give a f**k if you get your head kicked in etc"

Agree. Taking phones off them. Calling them ‘vermin’. Gave one lad ‘permission’ to cover his face.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 15, 2018, 01:30:43 PM
I see the boxer who was confronted in Newry is denying the allegations. Front page of the IN today
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on January 15, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
I see the boxer who was confronted in Newry is denying the allegations. Front page of the IN today

The article doesn't mention him denying allegations related to grooming/paedophilia - he's said he hasn't been arrested or charged.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 15, 2018, 02:05:48 PM
he said he was there to train someone?
but you're right his statement didn't include any denial... hard to know whats going on

i have no time for these sting groups....leave the law to the law...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 15, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
I see the boxer who was confronted in Newry is denying the allegations. Front page of the IN today

The article doesn't mention him denying allegations related to grooming/paedophilia - he's said he hasn't been arrested or charged.

Ive misunderstood it then
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: John Martin on January 15, 2018, 02:47:10 PM
he said he was there to train someone?
but you're right his statement didn't include any denial... hard to know whats going on

i have no time for these sting groups....leave the law to the law...

In the Facebook live video they said that they had lured him there by asking him for a PT session. It wasn’t said if they were pretending to be a minor when they done this. I’d be in agreement with many on here, why don’t they give all the evidence to the authorities and name and shame those people who are found to be guilty.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 15, 2018, 03:59:17 PM
Lads I have heard what the boxer had in his messages and trust me he’d be fucked if the cops were given it before the ‘outing’. A good legal team will pull it apart but there is a potential viable statutory rape against him so he’s looking at jail
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on January 15, 2018, 04:55:40 PM
What would the legal view here given that in theory, there is no victim as they use these "decoys" as they refer to them. If there's no evidence of any grooming or abuse of an actual child, , what crime has been committed? Attempted grooming?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 15, 2018, 04:56:40 PM
Lads I have heard what the boxer had in his messages and trust me he’d be fucked if the cops were given it before the ‘outing’. A good legal team will pull it apart but there is a potential viable statutory rape against him so he’s looking at jail
Thought this was all common knowledge for a while now?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2018, 06:47:21 PM
Lads I have heard what the boxer had in his messages and trust me he’d be fucked if the cops were given it before the ‘outing’. A good legal team will pull it apart but there is a potential viable statutory rape against him so he’s looking at jail

You say he'd be f**ked if the cops were given it before... Where does the before factor in? (Genuine question as i don't know) If it is just after does this change things?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 15, 2018, 11:55:14 PM
Another 2 stings tonight around the Ballymena area..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Over the Bar on January 16, 2018, 03:58:34 PM
The complete wretch-Millie who filmed the lad in Carrickfergus shouted at his dad who tried to push her camera away "Get your hands away from me or I'll knock your f**k in!!!"    If there's any justice in this the police should charge her with threatening behaviour!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on January 19, 2018, 10:30:37 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 19, 2018, 10:37:15 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.

there was one on a guy from Lurgan?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on January 19, 2018, 11:01:51 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.

there was one on a guy from Lurgan?

yeah it happened about 11pm last nite. he was going to meet up with a 14 year old boy (decoy) whom he had messaged via grindr.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 19, 2018, 11:04:45 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.

there was one on a guy from Lurgan?

yeah it happened about 11pm last nite. he was going to meet up with a 14 year old boy (decoy) whom he had messaged via grindr.

Wow. Not good
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: johnneycool on January 19, 2018, 11:06:17 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.

there was one on a guy from Lurgan?

yeah it happened about 11pm last nite. he was going to meet up with a 14 year old boy (decoy) whom he had messaged via grindr.

Are 14 year olds allowed on Grindr?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on January 19, 2018, 11:14:15 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.

there was one on a guy from Lurgan?

yeah it happened about 11pm last nite. he was going to meet up with a 14 year old boy (decoy) whom he had messaged via grindr.

Are 14 year olds allowed on Grindr?

no, apparently you have to be 18. also are 14 year old boys really out on the streets at 11pm on a thursday nite in january for this guy to believe he was meeting one?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on January 19, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
pretty sure 14 year olds aren't allowed on many of the every (fecking hour of the ) day social media apps  >:(
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: johnneycool on January 19, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
watched the sting on the guy from Lurgan last nite. yes he's a complete sc**bag for what he was up to, but all those people online that then attacked him for how he looked - well they are scumbags too imo. are these stings just for their viewer's entertainment? i'd feel sorry for his family having to watch all that and then to read all the comments. these groups should just hand over whatever evidence there is to the Police and move on to the next guy.

there was one on a guy from Lurgan?

yeah it happened about 11pm last nite. he was going to meet up with a 14 year old boy (decoy) whom he had messaged via grindr.

Are 14 year olds allowed on Grindr?

no, apparently you have to be 18. also are 14 year old boys really out on the streets at 11pm on a thursday nite in january for this guy to believe he was meeting one?

So, has this lad a defence already that he assumed the other lad was 18 otherwise he shouldn't be on Grindr. I'd also have to assume the sting lads made it obvious on Grindr that the decoy was 14 for them to set up.

Hard to see how a conviction can result from this one.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2018, 11:28:45 AM
The complete wretch-Millie who filmed the lad in Carrickfergus shouted at his dad who tried to push her camera away "Get your hands away from me or I'll knock your f**k in!!!"    If there's any justice in this the police should charge her with threatening behaviour!

They're great people doing good work though  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 19, 2018, 11:49:34 AM
what happens if a case goes to a jury... must be a defence of prejudice if he's more more or less already been convicted by Facebook masses... Fair trial?  just wondering?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 19, 2018, 12:01:52 PM
The guy who was caught from Lurgan last night, he was in my sisters year in school.  Haven't seen him in years, but he would have been made fun of etc growing up as he wasn't the brightest.

Absolutely not excusing what he was trying to do, but this facebook live stuff is getting out of hand.  There's a family there too that are going to face the repercussions of this.

As people have said, they should just gather the evidence and hand it to the cops rather than fishing for likes on Facebook.. 

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: belfastkev on January 19, 2018, 01:57:41 PM
Any decent solicitor would rip these guys apart in court. Basic defences are:

1) Defendant knew the person was over the age 16 based on the way they were talking, turns of phrase, idioms etc that only a mature adult would use.

2) Defendant did not instigate sexual conversation. If the "investigator" mentions sex first then it's a clear case of entrapment.

3) There is no actus reus.

4) Defendant argues that the mens rea was a simple fantasy and not predatory.

5) The defendant had diminished responsibility due to mental health issues etc.

These vigilante groups do more harm than good as, for want of a better phrase, "mud sticks". They conduct a trial by social media where the bar is set at "that guy looks like a pervert so he is" rather than "beyond all reasonable doubt. Personally, I'd leave it to the cops (however useless they can be) and if these vigilantes MUST get involved then do it out of the gaze of the public eye and simply hand over any potential evidence to the police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 19, 2018, 02:05:44 PM
The flatmate of that guy from Lurgan is now being threatened.  People saying he must have known and that he's complicit in it etc.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: belfastkev on January 19, 2018, 02:39:58 PM
The flatmate of that guy from Lurgan is now being threatened.  People saying he must have known and that he's complicit in it etc.

*facepalm*
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
The flatmate of that guy from Lurgan is now being threatened.  People saying he must have known and that he's complicit in it etc.

*facepalm*

They provide a great service though  . . .  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 12:19:13 AM
And if predator hunters didn't exist and the same guy was charged by the Police and his name made public,would his flat mate and family not also have been exposed to the same risks?

These nonces are grooming what they fully believe to be real children and are actually turning up to meetings they arrange themselves.If you are intent upon committing a bank robbery but are apprehended beforehand it does not make you any less guilty.

Once again a great job done exposing a dangerous nonce to the local community,who can now take steps to protect the children from him.That is the real achievement of predator hunters,the people now know paedophiles and what they are,regardless of the joke incompetent Police force and flawed legal system failing to convict on some bullshit technicality when it is obvious he's as guilty as hell.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 20, 2018, 07:51:17 AM
I don't think anybody has a problem with what they do. It's how they do it. Read their Facebook page and it's obvious they want likes for what they do. PSNI craigavon put up an interesting post in the lad lifted in Lurgan. Worth a read. Thought I might have seen you in the comments Tony??
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 08:13:42 AM
I don't think anybody has a problem with what they do. It's how they do it.

What's Bananarama got to do with it?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 20, 2018, 08:15:10 AM
Did you have a look at that post on Facebook?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 10:06:54 AM
Yes.The comments are not complimentary to the Police or the unfit for purpose legal system,and the PSNI comments simply try to defend the indefensible.If the current legal system provides loopholes for obviously guilty people to avoid justice then that system needs to be radically overhauled
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 20, 2018, 10:24:27 AM
Yes.The comments are not complimentary to the Police or the unfit for purpose legal system,and the PSNI comments simply try to defend the indefensible.If the current legal system provides loopholes for obviously guilty people to avoid justice then that system needs to be radically overhauled
I’d really question anyone’s parenting ability if they’re putting the safety of their kids in the hands of a bunch of jumped up bullying chavs
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 10:54:27 AM
Yeah,like putting their trust in the Police is working well! The parents are thankful for these groups (check the Facebook comments) for opportunistically exposing paedophiles.They are hardly placing all their trust in them.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 20, 2018, 11:43:06 AM
Yeah,like putting their trust in the Police is working well! The parents are thankful for these groups (check the Facebook comments) for opportunistically exposing paedophiles.They are hardly placing all their trust in them.
They should go their priest.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 20, 2018, 11:45:05 AM
Yes.The comments are not complimentary to the Police or the unfit for purpose legal system,and the PSNI comments simply try to defend the indefensible.If the current legal system provides loopholes for obviously guilty people to avoid justice then that system needs to be radically overhauled

So you haven't really taken onboard  what was said at all. These groups make it harder to get convictions and get the predators off the streets
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 20, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
Yeah,like putting their trust in the Police is working well! The parents are thankful for these groups (check the Facebook comments) for opportunistically exposing paedophiles.They are hardly placing all their trust in them.
The only people thanking them are their fellow illiterate chavs. It’s mainly for their entertainment and the predator hunters’ own egos. Any diligent parent wouldn’t need their services.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: ONARAGGATIP on January 20, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Yeah,like putting their trust in the Police is working well! The parents are thankful for these groups (check the Facebook comments) for opportunistically exposing paedophiles.They are hardly placing all their trust in them.
The only people thanking them are their fellow illiterate chavs. It’s mainly for their entertainment and the predator hunters’ own egos. Any diligent parent wouldn’t need their services.

Long term lurker, first post. Agree with this, social media very dangerous in the hands of the chavs as you call them, watching a few of them stings, it makes for very uncomfortable viewing, the 'hunters' seem to take huge enjoyment from it all.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
So you think nonces turning up to meet what they think are kids they've groomed should be treated with courtesy and respect? Please explain why?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2018, 04:21:21 PM
So you think nonces turning up to meet what they think are kids they've groomed should be treated with courtesy and respect? Please explain why?

You don’t get it do you? If they had have set the mob on people who allowed paedos to continue raping kids for years then your mate would have been strung up a long time ago!

It’s not the way to do it, it looks and comes across very unprofessional which will end up with someone getting off with it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
They are letting the public know who paedophiles are in their area and totally shaming and humiliating paedophiles.What's not to like?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Puckoon on January 20, 2018, 04:39:24 PM
Takes a special kind of British Daily Mirror reader to “like” the public shaming and humiliation of another. Normal people don’t get off on that kind of mob justice. You’re probably one of the descendants of those who threw rotten cabbages at the condemned in the big town square. What a clown you are.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 20, 2018, 04:39:27 PM
They are letting the public know who paedophiles are in their area and totally shaming and humiliating paedophiles.What's not to like?

A pity your hero Sean didn't
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: ONARAGGATIP on January 20, 2018, 04:53:50 PM
So you think nonces turning up to meet what they think are kids they've groomed should be treated with courtesy and respect? Please explain why?

I just find it uncomfortable, its a show, it reminds me of a couple of episodes of black mirror.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 20, 2018, 05:10:34 PM
They are letting the public know who paedophiles are in their area and totally shaming and humiliating paedophiles.What's not to like?

A pity your hero Sean didn't

Awww, don't bring that up again........he only gets upset when the Saint of Armagh gets a mention.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
I wonder what the ratio of weirdos to the genuinely dangerous entrapped is.
And what the motivation of the vigilantes is .
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 05:49:54 PM
I wonder what the ratio of weirdos to the genuinely dangerous entrapped is.
And what the motivation of the vigilantes is .

People who groom what they believe to children and then organise a meeting and turn up,can only be described as genuinely dangerous.

The motivation of the vigilantes is to expose and inform the general public of these genuinely dangerous people
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2018, 05:50:57 PM
People who turn a blind eye to rapists are dangerous also
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
Agreed.But if someone is asked to hear allegations,notes same and passes these notes on quickly to a superior cannot be regarded as turning a blind eye
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 20, 2018, 06:33:58 PM
In schools if a pupil tells their teacher something , the teacher is instructed to (a) ask no questions and (b) pass it on to the designated teacher in charge. The teacher is not allowed to mention it to anyone else or enquire as to the outcome of any further investigations.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
Given the unanimous aversion to paedophilia on this board and indeed by all right minded people,I am staggered by the opposition to predator hunters.It is callous but that is the whole point, to identify, and publicly shame those who would groom children and make the public aware of them.As long as it doesn't descend into violence, and the evidence they gather leads them to right nonce,I have not one ounce of sympathy for anyone they catch.Neither have I any faith in the conventional justice route.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2018, 11:25:12 PM
In schools if a pupil tells their teacher something , the teacher is instructed to (a) ask no questions and (b) pass it on to the designated teacher in charge. The teacher is not allowed to mention it to anyone else or enquire as to the outcome of any further investigations.

Sorry, if a pupil tells me they have raped someone I’m telling the designated person and following that up with the police, I won’t be allowing it to be brushed  under the carpet or allowing said student to be moved on elsewhere to continue to rape more people, but hey that’s just me, others would be happy to let it continue. Strange that!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Rossfan on January 20, 2018, 11:41:54 PM
Given the unanimous aversion to paedophilia on this board and indeed by all right minded people,I am staggered by the opposition to predator hunters.It is callous but that is the whole point, to identify, and publicly shame those who would groom children and make the public aware of them.As long as it doesn't descend into violence, and the evidence they gather leads them to right nonce,I have not one ounce of sympathy for anyone they catch.Neither have I any faith in the conventional justice route.
So it's Lynch Law for you then?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 20, 2018, 11:44:41 PM
What is it about "as long as it doesn't descend into violence" that you don't understand?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 20, 2018, 11:59:46 PM
What is it about "as long as it doesn't descend into violence" that you don't understand?

But how else will gathering up a mob and publicly show it live on Facebook will end up? Again we should bring the Hunters to The Vatican and see how well they do
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 21, 2018, 12:02:11 AM
What is it about "as long as it doesn't descend into violence" that you don't understand?

But how else will gathering up a mob and publicly show it live on Facebook will end up? Again we should bring the Hunters to The Vatican and see how well they do

sssshhhh....  :-X
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 21, 2018, 12:57:40 AM
In schools if a pupil tells their teacher something , the teacher is instructed to (a) ask no questions and (b) pass it on to the designated teacher in charge. The teacher is not allowed to mention it to anyone else or enquire as to the outcome of any further investigations.

Sorry, if a pupil tells me they have raped someone I’m telling the designated person and following that up with the police, I won’t be allowing it to be brushed  under the carpet or allowing said student to be moved on elsewhere to continue to rape more people, but hey that’s just me, others would be happy to let it continue. Strange that!

Yea. Agree with your attitude there. But it’s strange that teachers are told that they must not take any action and make any enquiries after they have reported their concerns to the designated teacher. If it is brushed under the carpet and in years to come the pupil, now an adult, pursues the matter further it’s the teacher to whom he/she reported the matter to will be asked why they didn’t report to the police.........
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 09:03:25 AM
What about the designated teacher's training and expertise in the matter.What if the first teacher (or indeed Sean Brady even) goes to the Police on first hearing as then unfounded allegations,and potentially ruins a colleague's career?

If a predator group is gratuitously violent then I would not support them but as far as I can see they turn up in numbers to prevent the accused being harmed
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 09:18:45 AM
The police follow every complaint that has any links to rape.... if they don’t they become liable, it’s then down to whether there is a case or not for the courts to decide..

The designated teacher will be held responsible if they didn’t go through the proper legal system, they won’t get promoted to principle that’s for sure, whereas in the church you turn a blind eye to rape and become a Bishop!

I couldn’t see a school allow an accusation of rape to be hushed up, regardless of the claim and by whom it has to as the reputation of the scho has to come first
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 09:55:54 AM
Not today,but sadly decades ago there weren't such robust procedures in place in any organisation to guide in the dealing with allegations.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 10:22:43 AM
Not today,but sadly decades ago there weren't such robust procedures in place in any organisation to guide in the dealing with allegations.

I would tend to go with my moral compass on that regardless of the time, as raping kids is deplorable now and a 100 years ago, but that’s just me.. you on the other hand seem to think, well those were the times and they were just following orders, a bit like the Nazis, they were just following orders
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 21, 2018, 12:33:49 PM
What about the designated teacher's training and expertise in the matter.What if the first teacher (or indeed Sean Brady even) goes to the Police on first hearing as then unfounded allegations,and potentially ruins a colleague's career?

If a predator group is gratuitously violent then I would not support them but as far as I can see they turn up in numbers to prevent the accused being harmed
They clearly incite violence, they encourage it indirectly and suspects as well as innocent people have been assaulted and had their property damaged as a result of their moral Facebook crusades. All for the sake of a bit of midweek entertainment for the full time mummy’s/mad b**tards
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 12:47:26 PM
Not today,but sadly decades ago there weren't such robust procedures in place in any organisation to guide in the dealing with allegations.

I would tend to go with my moral compass on that regardless of the time, as raping kids is deplorable now and a 100 years ago, but that’s just me.. you on the other hand seem to think, well those were the times and they were just following orders, a bit like the Nazis, they were just following orders

I suspect you know I don't condone rape regardless of the era in which it occurred.But today all organisations have proper Child Protection Policies and Procedures to guide.In bureaucratic organisations today we all have to follow orders/procedures etc,but in any era as long one passed information honestly along the food chain,then one's conscience can be clear.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 12:50:24 PM
What about the designated teacher's training and expertise in the matter.What if the first teacher (or indeed Sean Brady even) goes to the Police on first hearing as then unfounded allegations,and potentially ruins a colleague's career?

If a predator group is gratuitously violent then I would not support them but as far as I can see they turn up in numbers to prevent the accused being harmed
They clearly incite violence, they encourage it indirectly and suspects as well as innocent people have been assaulted and had their property damaged as a result of their moral Facebook crusades. All for the sake of a bit of midweek entertainment for the full time mummy’s/mad b**tards

I have detected no incitement to violence.Their sting recently catching an RTÉ sports producer in Leeds,who was subsequently sacked,and is now facing sentencing is a model of his this should work.He and his activities would not have come to light had the Predator Group not existed
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2018, 12:55:35 PM
Not today,but sadly decades ago there weren't such robust procedures in place in any organisation to guide in the dealing with allegations.

Any irony you see in this post? No robust procedures. What- like having a phone with a camera and having access to social media? That is ok and robust enough for you to support?7

To join this group what qualifications do you need? Any background checks? Interview process? You know seeing as there was no process years ago but is now.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 21, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
Irony is completely lost on him & beyond his comprehension, I am afraid. His tools are hypocrisy, double standards & cant.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 01:08:06 PM
Yes highly qualified people never crash economies,balls up legal investigations.

Luring a predator to groom a decoy child and turn up to meet same is not rocket science.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 21, 2018, 02:22:58 PM
Yes highly qualified people never crash economies,balls up legal investigations.

Luring a predator to groom a decoy child and turn up to meet same is not rocket science.
Tony, these people are uneducated idiots. They can’t even grasp the process involved in securing a conviction. There’s an interesting exchange on one of the groups pages where they argue with the PSNI. Cringeworthy stuff.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 21, 2018, 02:43:09 PM
Tony sees why he wants to see and ignores anything else
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on January 21, 2018, 03:00:52 PM
I would be interested in the areas where these people operate. What sort of profile is attracted to the role?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 03:15:57 PM
I think there is almost unanimous acceptance that these nonces will get off with a slap on the wrist due to a combination of police incompetence,and a perverse justice system that prioritises the rights of the criminal over the victim.

However what these predator hunter groups do is expose and shame paedophiles,and let people know who they are and where they live.That's the valuable service they provide.They effectively ruin these b**tards' lives,fair play to them for doing so,I have no sympathy for any of them.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 21, 2018, 03:38:17 PM
I think there is almost unanimous acceptance that these nonces will get off with a slap on the wrist due to a combination of police incompetence,and a perverse justice system that prioritises the rights of the criminal over the victim.

However what these predator hunter groups do is expose and shame paedophiles,and let people know who they are and where they live.That's the valuable service they provide.They effectively ruin these b**tards' lives,fair play to them for doing so,I have no sympathy for any of them.

And what happens next tony? These groups have been told they make it harder for convictions to be obtained. Then the paedo is released back into society. Probably into a new area. What’s  the benefit in that
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 21, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
And why happens when they get the wrong person? Or what about their families who suffer too?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 04:03:58 PM
Point is when they're exposed there's no where in the North for them to go.These stings are making the local papers.No hiding place,hounded everywhere.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 04:08:44 PM
Point is when they're exposed there's no where in the North for them to go.These stings are making the local papers.No hiding place,hounded everywhere.

How many of them will you remember Tony? If you walked past on tomorrow will you know? You probably met one today and never knew..

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
Basically you just don't understand.  There are many reasons this is a bad idea. You don't appear to have the capacity to understand them.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 21, 2018, 04:33:21 PM
Point is when they're exposed there's no where in the North for them to go.These stings are making the local papers.No hiding place,hounded everywhere.

Not making the local papers when I’m from
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 05:44:38 PM
Funny that.One was the headline story in the Irish News last Monday
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Owen Brannigan on January 21, 2018, 05:46:54 PM
The police follow every complaint that has any links to rape.... if they don’t they become liable, it’s then down to whether there is a case or not for the courts to decide..

The designated teacher will be held responsible if they didn’t go through the proper legal system, they won’t get promoted to principle that’s for sure, whereas in the church you turn a blind eye to rape and become a Bishop!

I couldn’t see a school allow an accusation of rape to be hushed up, regardless of the claim and by whom it has to as the reputation of the scho has to come first

Really, would just be so sure. Reputation has a lot to answer for when it comes to organisations and their capacity to prioritise it either for themselves, a family or individual ahead of suffering by someone in their care.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 21, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
Funny that.One was the headline story in the Irish News last Monday

That’s one. And the rest of them ?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
The police follow every complaint that has any links to rape.... if they don’t they become liable, it’s then down to whether there is a case or not for the courts to decide..

The designated teacher will be held responsible if they didn’t go through the proper legal system, they won’t get promoted to principle that’s for sure, whereas in the church you turn a blind eye to rape and become a Bishop!

I couldn’t see a school allow an accusation of rape to be hushed up, regardless of the claim and by whom it has to as the reputation of the scho has to come first

Really, would just be so sure. Reputation has a lot to answer for when it comes to organisations and their capacity to prioritise it either for themselves, a family or individual ahead of suffering by someone in their care.

Nothing is sacred and if an accusation is made it will be leaked, and if there is police involvement then it has no choice
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 06:47:29 PM
What about complaints that are not rape related but nonetheless serious?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
What about complaints that are not rape related but nonetheless serious?

I’m using rape as an example as that’s what these paedos are going to do, and what Brendan Smyth did and allowed to do by ones who turned a blind eye too..

All complaints should be investigated based on the complaint surely?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 21, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
Point is when they're exposed there's no where in the North for them to go.These stings are making the local papers.No hiding place,hounded everywhere.

You don’t understand why these are bad and you continue to ignore points or don’t like.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 07:51:52 PM
Point is when they're exposed there's no where in the North for them to go.These stings are making the local papers.No hiding place,hounded everywhere.

You don’t understand why these are bad and you continue to ignore points or don’t like.

I don't understand why they are bad because any I've watched have without fail contained the following:

1.Confrontation with people who have been grooming what they think to be children,supported by ample computer based evidence. No mistaken identities, no doubt about guilt.

2.A complete absence of violence or threat thereof.

3.Paedophiles made to squirm and lie (I thought she was over 16 etc).

4.Viewers asked  to keep away from the scene and not annoy friends or family of the predator.

5.Police called and the predator protected until they arrive.

6.Maximum exposure and outing of Paedophiles

What is wrong with any of that?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 21, 2018, 07:56:11 PM
Becaus their actions help prevent convictions. If they were really not in it for themselves they could do what they do and then hand their evidence to police without the need to broadcast it live on social media
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 08:12:55 PM
No guarantee that the public would be informed etc.What is the problem? The former RTÉ producer awaits sentencing.If the public could trust the Police and Judicial system these groups wouldn't exist
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
No guarantee that the public would be informed etc.What is the problem? The former RTÉ producer awaits sentencing.If the public could trust the Police and Judicial system these groups wouldn't exist

Like I said earlier if one past you tomorrow in general street you wouldn’t have a clue
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 21, 2018, 08:58:29 PM
No guarantee that the public would be informed etc.What is the problem? The former RTÉ producer awaits sentencing.If the public could trust the Police and Judicial system these groups wouldn't exist

You keep going on about one person. What about the others. What about the case of mistaken identity
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 09:16:05 PM
When anyone is arrested by Police and charged there is a risk of mistaken identity.

I have seen no evidence other than good work done by these groups.Only the Police are asking them to scale down,not the general public
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 21, 2018, 09:30:07 PM
Meanwhile, an entire village heaves a collective sigh of relief, as the identity of its next idiot is made known.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
When anyone is arrested by Police and charged there is a risk of mistaken identity.

I have seen no evidence other than good work done by these groups.Only the Police are asking them to scale down,not the general public

Anyone arrested there is a risk of mistaken identity ? Lol
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2018, 10:06:23 PM
When anyone is arrested by Police and charged there is a risk of mistaken identity.

I have seen no evidence other than good work done by these groups.Only the Police are asking them to scale down,not the general public

If police arrest you erroneously it won't necessarily be broadcast to the whole world...

Although at this point you are either being stupid or contrary so hardly matters what anyone says ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 21, 2018, 10:49:24 PM
If Police arrest me and the mistaken identity is by the Public assuming it's another person with the same name as me that is a regular occurrence.

My support for these groups is based solely on what I've seen.They spend adequate time gathering evidence,and know exactly the name and address of the predator,or the meeting place where he goes to meet the "child" I have seen no mistaken identities,their system is foolproof.I would presume if they do make a mistake they'd cut the feed immediately
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 22, 2018, 07:26:55 AM
Yout first sentence barely even makes sense ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 22, 2018, 10:37:55 AM
If Police arrest me and the mistaken identity is by the Public assuming it's another person with the same name as me that is a regular occurrence.

My support for these groups is based solely on what I've seen.They spend adequate time gathering evidence,and know exactly the name and address of the predator,or the meeting place where he goes to meet the "child" I have seen no mistaken identities,their system is foolproof.I would presume if they do make a mistake they'd cut the feed immediately

It has already been pointed out to you a few times that they have made at least one case of mistaken identity. And the feed was not cut
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
I haven't seen that or heard of it.Their evidence gathering is meticulous,in all of the live feeds I've seen.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 22, 2018, 07:47:53 PM
I haven't seen that or heard of it.Their evidence gathering is meticulous,in all of the live feeds I've seen.

then you have ignored them because the links were given to you
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 07:49:34 PM
I haven't seen that or heard of it.Their evidence gathering is meticulous,in all of the live feeds I've seen.


If only Sean Brady had have taken a leaf out of their book, had the evidence gathering was meticulous then there would have been less kids raped by the priests
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
He did and passed it on to his superiors.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 08:32:19 PM
He did and passed it on to his superiors.

The police, tell me this, is it a crime to withhold information on a crime?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 08:47:43 PM
Why has he not been arrested.Hearing and reporting "allegations" of child abuse,as yet unproven,is a far cry from withholding information about a crime.Are the parents,who also had knowledge of the "crime" also guilty therefore for not reporting it to the Police?

Back in the 70s Cardinal Conway,British Secretary of State and the RUC were strongly believed to be jointly complicit in moving a priest,suspected of pivotal involvement in the fatal Claudy bombing,to a parish in Donegal.What Chance is there the Police would have charged Smyth then?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 09:25:11 PM
Why has he not been arrested.Hearing and reporting "allegations" of child abuse,as yet unproven,is a far cry from withholding information about a crime.Are the parents,who also had knowledge of the "crime" also guilty therefore for not reporting it to the Police?

Back in the 70s Cardinal Conway,British Secretary of State and the RUC were strongly believed to be jointly complicit in moving a priest,suspected of pivotal involvement in the fatal Claudy bombing,to a parish in Donegal.What Chance is there the Police would have charged Smyth then?

It’s a simple question, is it a crime to withhold information on rape? Yes or no will do Tony
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 22, 2018, 09:31:55 PM
Will you be so supportive of them if they roll up to a Parochial house somewhere Tone??
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 09:40:22 PM
Yes,paedophiles masquerading as Priests are vile like all other paedophiles.

Withholding information about a crime is in itself a crime,but I think if anyone rolled up to a Police Station with allegations unproven,you would be asked for much more.

Do you think the parents,who had exactly the same information as Sean Brady,are also guilty of withholding information? Because logically I cannot see any difference?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 22, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
Blaming the parents again

Never change troll
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 10:08:32 PM
Tell me why,if Sean Brady is to blame,are the parents not to blame when they had access to the same information? Come on, somebody,anybody,explain the logic of blaming Sean Brady but not the parents?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
Can we blame Brady because he took the information from Smyth and didn’t go to the police, instead he allowed the other priests to hide the rapist child molester and allow him to continue to rape other kids, ruin their lives forever ?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 10:19:54 PM
Can we blame Brady because he took the information from Smyth and didn’t go to the police, instead he allowed the other priests to hide the rapist child molester and allow him to continue to rape other kids, ruin their lives forever ?

Can we blame the parents who also knew about Smyth and didn't go to the Police?

If we don't blame the parents for not going to the Police why do we blame Brady?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 22, 2018, 10:20:47 PM
Ah Jesus here we go again... ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 10:25:33 PM
Brady and parents both knew the same information about Brendan Smyth.I simply want to know why,and by what logic,Brady is culpable,but the parents (ultimately responsible for their own children's welfare and guardianship ) are not?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 10:28:48 PM
Brady and parents both knew the same information about Brendan Smyth.I simply want to know why,and by what logic,Brady is culpable,but the parents (ultimately responsible for their own children's welfare and guardianship ) are not?

Well if Smyth was allowed to rape other children after the church knew about is Brady culpable again? Parents probably too their blind faith to the extreme, a bit like you
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 10:32:21 PM
I will repeat again.By what logic is Sean Brady culpable for not reporting,while the parents who had exactly the same information,aren't?

Was Brady not then,like the parents,simply guilty of blind faith?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 10:35:56 PM
He was guilty of withholding information on a rapist... but you’ve no problems with that, which makes you come across as an apologist for Brady
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dougal Maguire on January 22, 2018, 10:42:06 PM
Jesus lads, I can't believe you have been so naive. He's been trying to get this thread to go in this direction for days now. I'd say he's spunking his trousers as we speak. You should be giving him a wide berth
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 10:51:19 PM
He was guilty of withholding information on a rapist... but you’ve no problems with that, which makes you come across as an apologist for Brady

But surely so were the parents?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
He was guilty of withholding information on a rapist... but you’ve no problems with that, which makes you come across as an apologist for Brady

But surely so were the parents?

The parents yes, but you’d expect after the parents knew and then the church knew the church would report him to the police, and not move him on to rape more kids ? So the church as in Brady brushed it under the carpet and allowed Smyth to rape vulnerable children... there is no getting away from that
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 11:06:01 PM
He was guilty of withholding information on a rapist... but you’ve no problems with that, which makes you come across as an apologist for Brady

But surely so were the parents?

The parents yes, but you’d expect after the parents knew and then the church knew the church would report him to the police, and not move him on to rape more kids ? So the church as in Brady brushed it under the carpet and allowed Smyth to rape vulnerable children... there is no getting away from that


Brady didn't brush it under the carpet.He told his superiors.Like the parents he thought effective action would be taken.But logically if he is to be blamed for not going to the Police them I'm afraid,so must the parents.There is absolutely No valid argument against this.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2018, 11:26:59 PM
You’re harping on about blaming parents, who’s said they didn’t do the right thing by their children? I haven’t heard anyone say any different but you keep going on about it to possibly make you feel better..

but the family were not guilty of sending Smyth off to other parish to continue with his torture on children? The church were and based on what Brady knew he was also to blame
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 22, 2018, 11:51:03 PM
You’re harping on about blaming parents, who’s said they didn’t do the right thing by their children? I haven’t heard anyone say any different but you keep going on about it to possibly make you feel better..

but the family were not guilty of sending Smyth off to other parish to continue with his torture on children? The church were and based on what Brady knew he was also to blame

As it happens I don't blame the parents,nor do I blame Sean Brady.There were dozens of people who should have stopped Smyth,long before his and Brady's paths crossed.

But I still contend if by some perverse logic Sean Brady withheld information about a crime,so logically did the parents.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 07:46:04 AM
You’re harping on about blaming parents, who’s said they didn’t do the right thing by their children? I haven’t heard anyone say any different but you keep going on about it to possibly make you feel better..

but the family were not guilty of sending Smyth off to other parish to continue with his torture on children? The church were and based on what Brady knew he was also to blame

As it happens I don't blame the parents,nor do I blame Sean Brady.There were dozens of people who should have stopped Smyth,long before his and Brady's paths crossed.

But I still contend if by some perverse logic Sean Brady withheld information about a crime,so logically did the parents.

Jesus you are a strange one Tony, I do blame the parents now you don’t? Who are these dozens of people who could have stopped Smyth? He confessed to Brady, that’s where the buck stops. You take that information to the police and they in turn question the family and then the kids, get a conviction and job done!!

But you know the rest let him continue elsewhere
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 23, 2018, 01:18:31 PM
You’re harping on about blaming parents, who’s said they didn’t do the right thing by their children? I haven’t heard anyone say any different but you keep going on about it to possibly make you feel better..

but the family were not guilty of sending Smyth off to other parish to continue with his torture on children? The church were and based on what Brady knew he was also to blame

As it happens I don't blame the parents,nor do I blame Sean Brady.There were dozens of people who should have stopped Smyth,long before his and Brady's paths crossed.

But I still contend if by some perverse logic Sean Brady withheld information about a crime,so logically did the parents.

Jesus you are a strange one Tony, I do blame the parents now you don’t? Who are these dozens of people who could have stopped Smyth? He confessed to Brady, that’s where the buck stops. You take that information to the police and they in turn question the family and then the kids, get a conviction and job done!!

But you know the rest let him continue elsewhere

Smyth confessed to Brady? Are you for real? They never even met.Sean Brady heard allegations from young children.That's all. He reported these to his superiors.The children's parents also heard the same allegations.NO ONE went to the Police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 01:39:01 PM
Smyth did confess to someone at the church
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 23, 2018, 05:19:53 PM
I wasnt aware Smyth even confessed to the Police hence his long drawn out trial.More misinformation
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2018, 06:40:52 PM
Hey Tony, if you found that someone was stealing money from the Credit Union and you told your supervisor about it – yet the only thing that happened was that they were moved to another branch.

What if you found out they were continuing to steal money from the other branch? Would you not go to the authorities?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 23, 2018, 07:04:54 PM
Hey Tony, if you found that someone was stealing money the branch manager was raping an employee from the Credit Union and you told your supervisor about it – yet the only thing that happened was that they were moved to another branch.

What if you found out they were continuing to steal money rape people at the other branch? Would you not go to the authorities?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2018, 08:32:01 PM
Another sting in Ballymena tonight, in full view of families and kids outside a restaurant. Bellends
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 08:32:46 PM
I wasnt aware Smyth even confessed to the Police hence his long drawn out trial.More misinformation

So why did they move him? Hmm maybe he never did anything! You’re on form lad!

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 08:34:41 PM
Another sting in Ballymena tonight, in full view of families and kids outside a restaurant. Bellends

Watching it there and the comments on the page are unreal! Standing outside the restaurant and apparently they went into the restaurant to get him! Said this was the only place they could get him! Nobs
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Therealdonald on January 23, 2018, 08:37:29 PM
I'm not condoning what Brady done by any means...but genuinely is there not a code of practice and guidelines to follow in cases like this. If a child tells a teacher that she's being abused at home, does that teacher not legally have to tell the Principal first or the designated child protection officer? Tony makes a good point are the parents as culpable for not telling the police? Or is it Brady who was wrong for not following up more stringently?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 08:42:28 PM
I'm not condoning what Brady done by any means...but genuinely is there not a code of practice and guidelines to follow in cases like this. If a child tells a teacher that she's being abused at home, does that teacher not legally have to tell the Principal first or the designated child protection officer? Tony makes a good point are the parents as culpable for not telling the police? Or is it Brady who was wrong for not following up more stringently?

There’s a simple answer to this, ask yourself,  what you would do? Would you be happy to not follow it through and ensure that this rapists is investigated by the proper authorities ? If you don’t then your as bad for allowing it to continue.

That’s my view on it, you obviously have a strange view on things
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 23, 2018, 08:48:34 PM
I'm not condoning what Brady done by any means...but genuinely is there not a code of practice and guidelines to follow in cases like this. If a child tells a teacher that she's being abused at home, does that teacher not legally have to tell the Principal first or the designated child protection officer? Tony makes a good point are the parents as culpable for not telling the police? Or is it Brady who was wrong for not following up more stringently?

There’s a simple answer to this, ask yourself,  what you would do? Would you be happy to not follow it through and ensure that this rapists is investigated by the proper authorities ? If you don’t then your as bad for allowing it to continue.

That’s my view on it, you obviously have a strange view on things

There is a code of practice now but nothing back in the day.As I have said often the church's handling of this was woeful,more concerned with its reputation than victims and prevention.This was indefensible.

However the abuse a junior priest at the time has taken on this Board for being a note taker who passed on what he recorded up the food chain is deplorable.He did his best and has every right to feel his conscience is clear.Smyth should have been stopped long before the mid 70s.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 23, 2018, 08:59:10 PM
Hey Tony, if you found that someone was stealing money from the Credit Union and you told your supervisor about it – yet the only thing that happened was that they were moved to another branch.

What if you found out they were continuing to steal money from the other branch? Would your conscience be clear?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2018, 09:01:57 PM
Another sting in Ballymena tonight, in full view of families and kids outside a restaurant. Bellends

Watching it there and the comments on the page are unreal! Standing outside the restaurant and apparently they went into the restaurant to get him! Said this was the only place they could get him! Nobs

Just off the phone with a work mate who was driving past when it happened, said it was like something out of a film. Nothing but hardmen standing about thinking they are the Mitchell Bros.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 09:10:08 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 23, 2018, 09:12:28 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

Milltown Row complains about Sean Brady for not exposing a predator and in the same page complains about predator catchers for exposing one!😂😂
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 09:16:27 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

Milltown Row complains about Sean Brady for not exposing a predator and in the same page complains about predator catchers for exposing one!😂😂

Where am I complaining about catching perverts? They haven’t convicted anyone because they are doing it wrong...

it’s embarrassing how they go about it, ruining a business now in Ballymena with comments coming from the baying mob online saying things like name the restaurant and boycott it and never eat there!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 23, 2018, 09:17:05 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

Milltown Row complains about Sean Brady for not exposing a predator and in the same page complains about predator catchers for exposing one!😂😂

and you praise predator catchers and defend Sean Brady who covered up for a child rapist   :D  :D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on January 23, 2018, 09:21:06 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

which one of the groups is doing the sting tonite?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 23, 2018, 09:32:38 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

which one of the groups is doing the sting tonite?

Team NI team protecting kids.. I didn’t realise there were more groups!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on January 23, 2018, 10:02:54 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

which one of the groups is doing the sting tonite?

Team NI team protecting kids.. I didn’t realise there were more groups!

Was Team NI protecting kids not available?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 23, 2018, 10:54:07 PM
I'm not condoning what Brady done by any means...but genuinely is there not a code of practice and guidelines to follow in cases like this. If a child tells a teacher that she's being abused at home, does that teacher not legally have to tell the Principal first or the designated child protection officer? Tony makes a good point are the parents as culpable for not telling the police? Or is it Brady who was wrong for not following up more stringently?

There’s a simple answer to this, ask yourself,  what you would do? Would you be happy to not follow it through and ensure that this rapists is investigated by the proper authorities ? If you don’t then your as bad for allowing it to continue.

That’s my view on it, you obviously have a strange view on things

There is protocol to follow when this happens and teachers are given training. Thankfully I was never out in this position. If I was I’d have followed procedure but wouldn’t have left it there. I’d have made sure it was properly reported I’d have asked and asked the designated person. If I wasn’t satisfied I’d have gone to the police myself
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 23, 2018, 11:11:36 PM
I'm not condoning what Brady done by any means...but genuinely is there not a code of practice and guidelines to follow in cases like this. If a child tells a teacher that she's being abused at home, does that teacher not legally have to tell the Principal first or the designated child protection officer? Tony makes a good point are the parents as culpable for not telling the police? Or is it Brady who was wrong for not following up more stringently?

There’s a simple answer to this, ask yourself,  what you would do? Would you be happy to not follow it through and ensure that this rapists is investigated by the proper authorities ? If you don’t then your as bad for allowing it to continue.

That’s my view on it, you obviously have a strange view on things

There is protocol to follow when this happens and teachers are given training. Thankfully I was never out in this position. If I was I’d have followed procedure but wouldn’t have left it there. I’d have made sure it was properly reported I’d have asked and asked the designated person. If I wasn’t satisfied I’d have gone to the police myself

Back to the point I was making. Part of teachers training is that you are not allowed to ask whether it has been properly reported or ask the designated person how the issue is progressing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 23, 2018, 11:14:35 PM
I'm not condoning what Brady done by any means...but genuinely is there not a code of practice and guidelines to follow in cases like this. If a child tells a teacher that she's being abused at home, does that teacher not legally have to tell the Principal first or the designated child protection officer? Tony makes a good point are the parents as culpable for not telling the police? Or is it Brady who was wrong for not following up more stringently?

There’s a simple answer to this, ask yourself,  what you would do? Would you be happy to not follow it through and ensure that this rapists is investigated by the proper authorities ? If you don’t then your as bad for allowing it to continue.

That’s my view on it, you obviously have a strange view on things

There is protocol to follow when this happens and teachers are given training. Thankfully I was never out in this position. If I was I’d have followed procedure but wouldn’t have left it there. I’d have made sure it was properly reported I’d have asked and asked the designated person. If I wasn’t satisfied I’d have gone to the police myself

Back to the point I was making. Part of teachers training is that you are not allowed to ask whether it has been properly reported or ask the designated person how the issue is progressing.

I’m aware of that. Had I been put in that situation it’s what I would have done. The pupil trusted me enough to tell me, I’d want to follow it up. You trust the designated person to do their job but I’d want to know they have. I’d want the peace of mind
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 23, 2018, 11:16:55 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 24, 2018, 07:43:04 AM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.

Would it not be the same had he gone through the courts and been in the local newspaper?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2018, 08:42:11 AM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.

Would it not be the same had he gone through the courts and been in the local newspaper?

Could of well been the same yeah.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2018, 08:58:15 AM
Here's the difference though, they could have prepared for it a lot better, plenty perverts work in all sorts of jobs, they work in the civil service, teaching profession, sales men, medical professions or in the building trades but to go into a business live on social media and tell people live that there is a pervert here and dont eat here (thats what the guys carrying the phone camera said) is just  wrong, the buisness didnt know but didnt want these clampits inside their palce of work, while there was customers having dinner!

How someone cant see that that will have a impact on business is completely blind..

Give the information to the police they will review it and arrest the person based on how good their info is, getting as many perverts locked up is the best thing, but this way will actually make convictions worse, and if Tony mentions the RTE guy one more time! For me it should not be about searching for how many comments they got or likes, its cringing to be honest...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 24, 2018, 09:17:50 AM
Im hearing police have been giving the predator hunters exrra minutes if needed to do their Facebook recording before they move in...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Hound on January 24, 2018, 09:43:28 AM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.

Haven't seen any of the Facebook stuff, but what I find extraordinary from just reading this thread is the sheer number of perpetrators out there that they are finding in the area
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 24, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Only thing maybe is the more publicity these stings get on Facebook it will be like a warning to paedos and stop them being caught by this method. Ie: in the long run not a good thing. Maybe better catch them and discretly hand them to police and then they'll get publicity hopefully when appear in courts
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2018, 10:22:28 AM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.

Haven't seen any of the Facebook stuff, but what I find extraordinary from just reading this thread is the sheer number of perpetrators out there that they are finding in the area

Why is there so many should be the question?
 
Has there always been this many?
 
Is there modern reasons as to its increased size of perpetrators, is it down to the internet and people able to take their fantasy one step further and follow through on it.

The hunters are not really stopping them to be honest as there seems to be that many and the fear of getting caught does not deter them it seems.

What would be the best measures to ensure reduce this? Ban on the internet use for these people, impossible to control, but if caught increased period in jail..

Medical Castration would be one option, we can't kill them, as that would be the final solution, plus there would be nobody to say Mass on a Sunday  ;)

I remember my dad having that awkward conversation with me when I was young about being wary of perverts out there... He said there are gay people who will only want to be with someone who's gay so they are ok, but then there are perverts who are dirty feckers who don't care if you are young old man or woman! I was traumatised!!

What do you say to kids nowadays? Mine are up and well tuned into this and we've had discussions long time ago about the dangers of the internet and so on, hopefully they are smart enough to alert us right away if something seems wrong..

Worrying times, but I still think these hunter guys are doing it for themselves if I'm honest and it's backfiring on them 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 11:12:26 AM
The people they catch all seem to be a bit stupid. Of the ones I’ve watched, they all seem a bit slow. I know kids are vulnerable but I’d like to think your average teenager is going to have a bit more wit about them than to agree to meet some random strange man at night - it’s almost funny how the predators don’t think about this
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dire Ear on January 24, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
What are the names of these groups?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tyrone girl on January 24, 2018, 12:58:49 PM
I know of a local lad who is now a so called "paedophile hunter" in one of these groups.

Hes a creep and has a lovely online profile from his own antics. Also know for a fact he was fond of slapping his woman about! Yet now hes thinking hes the salt of the earth. Complete moron.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:21:15 PM
I know of a local lad who is now a so called "paedophile hunter" in one of these groups.

Hes a creep and has a lovely online profile from his own antics. Also know for a fact he was fond of slapping his woman about! Yet now hes thinking hes the salt of the earth. Complete moron.
Name him!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 01:49:59 PM
I know of a local lad who is now a so called "paedophile hunter" in one of these groups.

Hes a creep and has a lovely online profile from his own antics. Also know for a fact he was fond of slapping his woman about! Yet now hes thinking hes the salt of the earth. Complete moron.

Here's another angle on it that I can't wrap my head around.....has no-one else thought it a bit strange that you have these vigilantes putting themselves in the mind of a 14 year old girl/boy, and obviously coming out with dirty chat to gather 'evidence'. That not a bit perverse also?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 24, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
I know of a local lad who is now a so called "paedophile hunter" in one of these groups.

Hes a creep and has a lovely online profile from his own antics. Also know for a fact he was fond of slapping his woman about! Yet now hes thinking hes the salt of the earth. Complete moron.

Here's another angle on it that I can't wrap my head around.....has no-one else thought it a bit strange that you have these vigilantes putting themselves in the mind of a 14 year old girl/boy, and obviously coming out with dirty chat to gather 'evidence'. That not a bit perverse also?

I think this is where they get their real kicks.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2018, 02:07:18 PM
I know of a local lad who is now a so called "paedophile hunter" in one of these groups.

Hes a creep and has a lovely online profile from his own antics. Also know for a fact he was fond of slapping his woman about! Yet now hes thinking hes the salt of the earth. Complete moron.

Here's another angle on it that I can't wrap my head around.....has no-one else thought it a bit strange that you have these vigilantes putting themselves in the mind of a 14 year old girl/boy, and obviously coming out with dirty chat to gather 'evidence'. That not a bit perverse also?

I think this is where they get their real kicks.

Do they actually come out with dirty chat though?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 02:09:07 PM
Not sure, but surely there has to be something in order to prompt the sicko at the other end?

The whole thing stinks in my humble opinion.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 24, 2018, 02:38:03 PM
Not sure, but surely there has to be something in order to prompt the sicko at the other end?

The whole thing stinks in my humble opinion.

I know what you mean, must be something.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Therealdonald on January 24, 2018, 04:03:04 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.

Haven't seen any of the Facebook stuff, but what I find extraordinary from just reading this thread is the sheer number of perpetrators out there that they are finding in the area

Why is there so many should be the question?
 
Has there always been this many?
 
Is there modern reasons as to its increased size of perpetrators, is it down to the internet and people able to take their fantasy one step further and follow through on it.

The hunters are not really stopping them to be honest as there seems to be that many and the fear of getting caught does not deter them it seems.

What would be the best measures to ensure reduce this? Ban on the internet use for these people, impossible to control, but if caught increased period in jail..

Medical Castration would be one option, we can't kill them, as that would be the final solution, plus there would be nobody to say Mass on a Sunday  ;)

I remember my dad having that awkward conversation with me when I was young about being wary of perverts out there... He said there are gay people who will only want to be with someone who's gay so they are ok, but then there are perverts who are dirty feckers who don't care if you are young old man or woman! I was traumatised!!

What do you say to kids nowadays? Mine are up and well tuned into this and we've had discussions long time ago about the dangers of the internet and so on, hopefully they are smart enough to alert us right away if something seems wrong..

Worrying times, but I still think these hunter guys are doing it for themselves if I'm honest and it's backfiring on them

MR, you lose all credibility in a paragraph like the above when you make a cheap shot at the Catholic Church.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Ah sorry to offend the catholic church, i put a smiley face in there as a wee joke mind you, so must have been lost on you
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 24, 2018, 04:42:47 PM
The guy recording was dancing, and was wearing lovely white track bottoms and trainers.. the other one came over and asked how many likes have we got yet and how many comments on the page!! Hmm

It’s laughable, 5mins of Facebook fame.  I understand what they are trying to do but it’s consequences that effects the people left behind! One of the lads caught lives 10/15mins away from me, while I’m glad that I know what he’s up to, I feel sorry for his family, ordinary decent working people who keep themselves to themselves have saw their family business suffer.

Haven't seen any of the Facebook stuff, but what I find extraordinary from just reading this thread is the sheer number of perpetrators out there that they are finding in the area

Why is there so many should be the question?
 
Has there always been this many?
 
Is there modern reasons as to its increased size of perpetrators, is it down to the internet and people able to take their fantasy one step further and follow through on it.

The hunters are not really stopping them to be honest as there seems to be that many and the fear of getting caught does not deter them it seems.

What would be the best measures to ensure reduce this? Ban on the internet use for these people, impossible to control, but if caught increased period in jail..

Medical Castration would be one option, we can't kill them, as that would be the final solution, plus there would be nobody to say Mass on a Sunday  ;)

I remember my dad having that awkward conversation with me when I was young about being wary of perverts out there... He said there are gay people who will only want to be with someone who's gay so they are ok, but then there are perverts who are dirty feckers who don't care if you are young old man or woman! I was traumatised!!

What do you say to kids nowadays? Mine are up and well tuned into this and we've had discussions long time ago about the dangers of the internet and so on, hopefully they are smart enough to alert us right away if something seems wrong..

Worrying times, but I still think these hunter guys are doing it for themselves if I'm honest and it's backfiring on them

MR, you lose all credibility in a paragraph like the above when you make a cheap shot at the Catholic Church.

Who lost all credibility.... the Catholic Church?  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
Gymnast Aly Raisman speaking at the trial of Larry Nasser

https://youtu.be/HWWFB6RZwgg
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 24, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
I know of a local lad who is now a so called "paedophile hunter" in one of these groups.

Hes a creep and has a lovely online profile from his own antics. Also know for a fact he was fond of slapping his woman about! Yet now hes thinking hes the salt of the earth. Complete moron.

Here's another angle on it that I can't wrap my head around.....has no-one else thought it a bit strange that you have these vigilantes putting themselves in the mind of a 14 year old girl/boy, and obviously coming out with dirty chat to gather 'evidence'. That not a bit perverse also?

I think this is where they get their real kicks.

Do they actually come out with dirty chat though?

It was my understanding (maybe I'm wrong) that they aren't allowed to come out with dirty chat unless the predator does in the first instance otherwise it's entrapment and means nothing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 24, 2018, 10:16:20 PM
if you listen to the one with that lad in lurgan i think the decoy may have instigated it.  From what he was reading out loud then promptly told to shut up by his fellow interceptors - it sounded like entrapment.
whats your take on the new film " call me by your name" that is tipped for all the awards? It's about a romance between a man and a boy... seems to be acceptable in hollywood.. I haven't and won't be watching it - not my cup of tea but interested in what folks have to say about it?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2018, 10:26:17 PM
17 year old boy fancies a older man? Hmmm probably a bit like Brokeback mountain, only set in a different time and place, if you like that type of film then you’ll watch it, if not then there are loads of other films to watch this year
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 24, 2018, 10:46:37 PM
I'd rather watch Predator Hunters than Derry Girls crap.

Funny amid the hundreds of comments on these feeds there is not one uncomplimentary comment.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2018, 10:49:02 PM
I'd rather watch Predator Hunters than Derry Girls crap.

Funny amid the hundreds of comments on these feeds there is not one uncomplimentary comment.

Boycott this restaurant, smash her face in (talking about the manager) she needs punched! She’s a tr**p, I could go on but that just a couple on the Ballymena one, but you must have missed those ones
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 24, 2018, 11:02:04 PM
I did miss that one.Would like to see it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2018, 11:11:35 PM
I did miss that one.Would like to see it.

We’ll get the popcorn out and search for it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on January 24, 2018, 11:42:08 PM
if you listen to the one with that lad in lurgan i think the decoy may have instigated it.  From what he was reading out loud then promptly told to shut up by his fellow interceptors - it sounded like entrapment.
whats your take on the new film " call me by your name" that is tipped for all the awards? It's about a romance between a man and a boy... seems to be acceptable in hollywood.. I haven't and won't be watching it - not my cup of tea but interested in what folks have to say about it?

What’s that got to do with the thread?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 12:34:17 PM
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship. Where is the line? I think it has a lot to do with the thread?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 12:42:10 PM
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship. Where is the line? I think it has a lot to do with the thread?

The lad is 17, did you fancy someone when you were 17 who was, lets say in their 20's? Not a problem here unless you're against gay relationships, are you?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on January 25, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship. Where is the line? I think it has a lot to do with the thread?

Just sounds like the plot for "Blame it on Rio" - Hollywood promotes a Man Girl relationship? Is the problem here is your personal prejudice again homosexual relationships?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 25, 2018, 01:08:04 PM
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship. Where is the line? I think it has a lot to do with the thread?

It has absolutely zero to do with the thread Iceman. The lad in the film is 17 and the other lad 24.

It seems like you've made an honest mistake.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 01:13:24 PM
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship. Where is the line? I think it has a lot to do with the thread?

It has absolutely zero to do with the thread Iceman. The lad in the film is 17 and the other lad 24.

It seems like you've made an honest mistake.

Nope he hasnt, Ive already posted before that, i said the lad was 17, so he knew what he posted and it wasnt a mistake

if you listen to the one with that lad in lurgan i think the decoy may have instigated it.  From what he was reading out loud then promptly told to shut up by his fellow interceptors - it sounded like entrapment.
whats your take on the new film " call me by your name" that is tipped for all the awards? It's about a romance between a man and a boy... seems to be acceptable in hollywood.. I haven't and won't be watching it - not my cup of tea but interested in what folks have to say about it?


17 year old boy fancies a older man? Hmmm probably a bit like Brokeback mountain, only set in a different time and place, if you like that type of film then you’ll watch it, if not then there are loads of other films to watch this year
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 02:15:55 PM
I didn't see your post milltown it had moved on a page and i didnt go back...
it is nothing to do with homosexual relationships - the same can be said for American Beauty - it targeted man girl relationships.... yes granted 17 isnt as bad as 14 but where do we draw the line or will the line be drawn?
someone asked the question if i fancied someone in their mid 20s when i was 17 - of course.  I also fancied girls in their mid 20s when i was 14! It doesn't make it right....
If this lad was 16 would be ok? in your book for that lad in Lurgan to meet up for sex? (is the legal age in Ireland 16? I don't even know)...
Interchange boy for girl there too - Lurgan was the last one I watched and it was close to original home of Armagh so I was interested a little more than normal
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 25, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
I didn't see your post milltown it had moved on a page and i didnt go back...
it is nothing to do with homosexual relationships - the same can be said for American Beauty - it targeted man girl relationships.... yes granted 17 isnt as bad as 14 but where do we draw the line or will the line be drawn?
someone asked the question if i fancied someone in their mid 20s when i was 17 - of course.  I also fancied girls in their mid 20s when i was 14! It doesn't make it right....
If this lad was 16 would be ok? in your book for that lad in Lurgan to meet up for sex? (is the legal age in Ireland 16? I don't even know)...
Interchange boy for girl there too - Lurgan was the last one I watched and it was close to original home of Armagh so I was interested a little more than normal

We draw the line at 16 which is the age of consent . . . which is an entirely different debate!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 02:46:23 PM
I didn't see your post milltown it had moved on a page and i didnt go back...
it is nothing to do with homosexual relationships - the same can be said for American Beauty - it targeted man girl relationships.... yes granted 17 isnt as bad as 14 but where do we draw the line or will the line be drawn?
someone asked the question if i fancied someone in their mid 20s when i was 17 - of course.  I also fancied girls in their mid 20s when i was 14! It doesn't make it right....
If this lad was 16 would be ok? in your book for that lad in Lurgan to meet up for sex? (is the legal age in Ireland 16? I don't even know)...
Interchange boy for girl there too - Lurgan was the last one I watched and it was close to original home of Armagh so I was interested a little more than normal

The guys on facebook use 14 year olds, which is against the law, if someone is 17 (boy or girl) then thats legal.. anything under the age of 16 would be against the law, has been since 2008 I think...

What are your talking about? Have you heard of Tinder and other dating sites, I'd say the most are aged 17 up
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 05:09:53 PM
I didn't see your post milltown it had moved on a page and i didnt go back...
it is nothing to do with homosexual relationships - the same can be said for American Beauty - it targeted man girl relationships.... yes granted 17 isnt as bad as 14 but where do we draw the line or will the line be drawn?
someone asked the question if i fancied someone in their mid 20s when i was 17 - of course.  I also fancied girls in their mid 20s when i was 14! It doesn't make it right....
If this lad was 16 would be ok? in your book for that lad in Lurgan to meet up for sex? (is the legal age in Ireland 16? I don't even know)...
Interchange boy for girl there too - Lurgan was the last one I watched and it was close to original home of Armagh so I was interested a little more than normal


The guys on facebook use 14 year olds, which is against the law, if someone is 17 (boy or girl) then thats legal.. anything under the age of 16 would be against the law, has been since 2008 I think...

What are your talking about? Have you heard of Tinder and other dating sites, I'd say the most are aged 17 up
I have heard of tinder-  no reason to obviously use it - happily married with 5 kids - so are lads in their 20s and 30s hooking up with 17 year olds? (genuine questions by the way) I suppose it is another debate/thread.... the connection i'm making is the age of consent and how some nearly encourage going over that line...or walking it either side very closely...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 25, 2018, 05:35:26 PM
Dating apps like tinder are 18+ which is why some people take issue with the predator groups using them to target suspects
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 06:23:53 PM
Dating apps like tinder are 18+ which is why some people take issue with the predator groups using them to target suspects

Facebook has an age rule on it also, completely ignored..

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 06:36:08 PM
I didn't see your post milltown it had moved on a page and i didnt go back...
it is nothing to do with homosexual relationships - the same can be said for American Beauty - it targeted man girl relationships.... yes granted 17 isnt as bad as 14 but where do we draw the line or will the line be drawn?
someone asked the question if i fancied someone in their mid 20s when i was 17 - of course.  I also fancied girls in their mid 20s when i was 14! It doesn't make it right....
If this lad was 16 would be ok? in your book for that lad in Lurgan to meet up for sex? (is the legal age in Ireland 16? I don't even know)...
Interchange boy for girl there too - Lurgan was the last one I watched and it was close to original home of Armagh so I was interested a little more than normal


The guys on facebook use 14 year olds, which is against the law, if someone is 17 (boy or girl) then thats legal.. anything under the age of 16 would be against the law, has been since 2008 I think...

What are your talking about? Have you heard of Tinder and other dating sites, I'd say the most are aged 17 up
I have heard of tinder-  no reason to obviously use it - happily married with 5 kids - so are lads in their 20s and 30s hooking up with 17 year olds? (genuine questions by the way) I suppose it is another debate/thread.... the connection i'm making is the age of consent and how some nearly encourage going over that line...or walking it either side very closely...

Never used it, but I used to teach 16/17/18/19/ and 20 year olds, plenty of those lads used it for dating, lads of twenty dating 16 year olds happens what’s your point?

If someone is 16 and the age of consent is 16 they can have sex, consenting sex! Who’s encouraging that?

 I’ve two teenage daughters and a 20+ son, if you bring them up correctly with morals and common sense then they are equipped to deal with life, they’ll hit a few bumps along the way, as we all did.

you would have been as a 16/17 year old once? So if a twenty something made advanced you’d have taken an interest?

Why are you bringing 30 year olds with 17 year olds into it? The film is a 17 year old and someone in their 20’s, early twenties.. would a 40 year old and 30 year old relationship raise any eyebrows?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2018, 06:51:42 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Because 14 is f**king illegal here
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 07:07:38 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Because 14 is f**king illegal here
I'm just asking a question Gabe  - I mentioned other jurisdictions - and you've nothing to be chiming in on in Canada in fairness - anything goes up there
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: AZOffaly on January 25, 2018, 07:11:08 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Because 14 is f**king illegal here
I'm just asking a question Gabe  - I mentioned other jurisdictions - and you've nothing to be chiming in on in Canada in fairness - anything goes up there

What?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 07:14:19 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Because 14 is f**king illegal here
I'm just asking a question Gabe  - I mentioned other jurisdictions - and you've nothing to be chiming in on in Canada in fairness - anything goes up there

What?
My apologies - I reacted to Gabes animosity instead of playing the ball
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: haranguerer on January 25, 2018, 07:15:16 PM
Iceman is spot on in raising all this though - its interesting, and probably very telling. There are a lot of inconsistencies in how things are dealt with. For one thing, paedophilia is a sexual interest in pre-pubesecent, but the term is used (because its the worst term that can be used) across all platforms, incorrectly, for anything under the age of consent.

Its clear there are no hard and fast rules for any of this - age of consent differs across Europe, and even in our own society I'm fairly sure theres a policy that even if one is above age and one below, they only look into it if there is more than 4 years age gap.

I guess its hard to legislate, which has to be a hard line, for peoples development, which inevitably are soft lines, but as Iceman points out, there are a lot of nuances here, which the witch hunt brigade (silent justice etc) will always be incapable of considering.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 07:15:26 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Seen a 70 year old oil Barron from Texas married this 21 year old recently, not an eye batted!! What’s your point? You follow the rule of law of the country you’re in... morally you won’t find anyone here (I hope not) thinking a 60 year old is fine with a 16 year (or younger from other countries) but he won’t be arrested unless he has sex without consent !

Now is she or he for that matter more vulnerable that most? Yes and you’d expect any right thinking parent (if they are about) to step in

Phew you’re hard work on this... just spit it out, you hate gays and gay sex

And the film you linked here has broke no laws, you just made it up to suit your narrative
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 07:20:10 PM
man dear I never said the film broke any laws - it all raised questions...make you think...make me think.
If 16 and 60 is within the law in Ireland I would still speak up - no matter who it was.
If 60 and 14 in Germany is within the law I would still speak up - no matter who it was.

There's lots of nuances across the world pertaining to age of consent and there doesn't seem to be any real answers on whats right and wrong. I'm just asking for opinion not leading the witness your honour
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
Iceman is spot on in raising all this though - its interesting, and probably very telling. There are a lot of inconsistencies in how things are dealt with. For one thing, paedophilia is a sexual interest in pre-pubesecent, but the term is used (because its the worst term that can be used) across all platforms, incorrectly, for anything under the age of consent.

Its clear there are no hard and fast rules for any of this - age of consent differs across Europe, and even in our own society I'm fairly sure theres a policy that even if one is above age and one below, they only look into it if there is more than 4 years age gap.

I guess its hard to legislate, which has to be a hard line, for peoples development, which inevitably are soft lines, but as Iceman points out, there are a lot of nuances here, which the witch hunt brigade (silent justice etc) will always be incapable of considering.

Of course other countries have different views on this, what are you going to do? Invade them and apply our perfect laws? America been trying that for years! What happens in other countries is out of your control, so why worry ? This isn’t a new thing, been happening for centuries, probably safer now than it ever was
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: haranguerer on January 25, 2018, 07:41:50 PM
I'll bow out here, because I've no idea what your response has to do with my post, and I've no wish to travel further down the wormhole
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2018, 07:47:02 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Because 14 is f**king illegal here
I'm just asking a question Gabe  - I mentioned other jurisdictions - and you've nothing to be chiming in on in Canada in fairness - anything goes up there

Go on - what's your problem with Canada?

Is it because gay people are treated as equals up here?  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: AZOffaly on January 25, 2018, 08:24:04 PM
what about a 60 year old and a consenting 16 year old?  I checked the write up on that film and its 25 and 17 (ages of the man and teenager)
if 60 and 16 is ok whats really wrong with 30s and 14? Obviously I don't agree with this at all - just asking the question to challenge thinking on it and figure things out for myself too on how i view the age of consent and how that constitutes right and wrong...  it's age 12 in the Philippines. 13 in Japan. 14 in Germany.

Point being there are differing opinions all over the world on what is acceptable and what isn't - do we follow the rule of law in that particular jurisdiction - say Philippines for example and let some old man take a 12 year old girl down that path?

Because 14 is f**king illegal here
I'm just asking a question Gabe  - I mentioned other jurisdictions - and you've nothing to be chiming in on in Canada in fairness - anything goes up there

What?
My apologies - I reacted to Gabes animosity instead of playing the ball

No, I was wondering what you meant by "anything goes up there".  The age of consent in Canada is 16, which is the same as a lot of US states, including Florida.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 25, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
I see the paedo hunters nabbed another man from the Lisburn Road, Belfast this evening... have to say the ones they catch seem to be bang to rights. Am starting to think they are doing a good job. There is a US TV show does this where cops then wait nearby and detain the persons. Maybe here they shud also wait till after they are convicted in court to put it on Facebook.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 08:36:16 PM
I see the paedo hunters nabbed another man from the Lisburn Road this evening... have to say the ones they catch seem to be bang to rights. Am starting to think they are doing a good job. There is a US TV show does this where cops then wait nearby and detain the persons.
the show in the US uses an actual cop as the decoy who looks young -brings them in to the home and then the host of the show interviews them and the cops are outside waiting...its a bit more thorough with more evidence. My brother in law (florida cop) was one of the cops catching them outside on one episode - show is called Dateline catch a predator i think
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 08:39:34 PM

What?
My apologies - I reacted to Gabes animosity instead of playing the ball


No, I was wondering what you meant by "anything goes up there".  The age of consent in Canada is 16, which is the same as a lot of US states, including Florida.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE) this is what we hear about Canada down here. Not saying the US or Florida is exempt but you'd be led to believe this is the norm up in canada and completely fine...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 25, 2018, 08:56:21 PM
I see the paedo hunters nabbed another man from the Lisburn Road this evening... have to say the ones they catch seem to be bang to rights. Am starting to think they are doing a good job. There is a US TV show does this where cops then wait nearby and detain the persons.
the show in the US uses an actual cop as the decoy who looks young -brings them in to the home and then the host of the show interviews them and the cops are outside waiting...its a bit more thorough with more evidence. My brother in law (florida cop) was one of the cops catching them outside on one episode - show is called Dateline catch a predator i think

ok fair enough.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2018, 09:30:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE) this is what we hear about Canada down here. Not saying the US or Florida is exempt but you'd be led to believe this is the norm up in canada and completely fine...

Ah - there we go - like clockwork - it's been a few months since you've brought that up. You are like a broken record - as bad as Fearon. 

Also, for the bolded part - who says this?  Who leads you to believe this is the norm?



Also, what's illegal about that? And what has it got to do with the age of consent?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 09:41:21 PM
well what if someone identifies as a 14 year old girl/boy - can they have sex with the 14 year old girl/boy?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 09:45:12 PM
and you took me off track Gabe - instead of your cursing and anger and discussing and i retaliated...you can go back to whatever you were doing if you'd like
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2018, 09:57:01 PM
and you took me off track Gabe - instead of your cursing and anger and discussing and i retaliated...you can go back to whatever you were doing if you'd like

Your head is gone lad .......... between this and threatening to punch another member of the forum perhaps it might be better for you to take some time off.

I took things off track? You are the one coming in with this - which was a load of rubbish. I wonder why you mentioned this film in particular. 

Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship. Where is the line? I think it has a lot to do with the thread?


I'll go back to living my life in this weird "anything goes" country where everyone claim whatever gender and age they want to be.

Say a few Hail Mary's for me, will you - just to make sure I don't get corrupted as well.   
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 09:57:30 PM
well what if someone identifies as a 14 year old girl/boy - can they have sex with the 14 year old girl/boy?

Still against the law here.. if someone identifies themselves as 14 they would be 14 no?

children are sexually more aware than what you would have been when you were 14, good or bad that’s how it is...

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 10:31:34 PM
well what if someone identifies as a 14 year old girl/boy - can they have sex with the 14 year old girl/boy?

Still against the law here.. if someone identifies themselves as 14 they would be 14 no?

children are sexually more aware than what you would have been when you were 14, good or bad that’s how it is...
the self identifying movement though creates loop holes?
if a 60 year old man says he is really a 16 year old boy he can have consensual sex with a 16 year old girl.  Not sure on all the laws but I think the age of consent laws are more relaxed if the two are close in age (even underage)...
so what if a man says he's really a 16 year old boy? theres lots of nuances and grey areas and children suffer

to answer Gabe - I picked that over American beauty because it closely resembled the Lurgan case. You see what you want to see
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2018, 10:43:00 PM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

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Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.


Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 25, 2018, 10:45:21 PM
I see the paedo hunters nabbed another man from the Lisburn Road, Belfast this evening... have to say the ones they catch seem to be bang to rights. Am starting to think they are doing a good job. There is a US TV show does this where cops then wait nearby and detain the persons. Maybe here they shud also wait till after they are convicted in court to put it on Facebook.

I think that's the problem people have with them. The fact that they broadcast live when they get them instead of giving the info to police
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 25, 2018, 10:46:29 PM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

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Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.
Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 25, 2018, 10:47:06 PM
well what if someone identifies as a 14 year old girl/boy - can they have sex with the 14 year old girl/boy?

Still against the law here.. if someone identifies themselves as 14 they would be 14 no?

children are sexually more aware than what you would have been when you were 14, good or bad that’s how it is...
the self identifying movement though creates loop holes?
if a 60 year old man says he is really a 16 year old boy he can have consensual sex with a 16 year old girl.  Not sure on all the laws but I think the age of consent laws are more relaxed if the two are close in age (even underage)...
so what if a man says he's really a 16 year old boy? theres lots of nuances and grey areas and children suffer

to answer Gabe - I picked that over American beauty because it closely resembled the Lurgan case. You see what you want to see

how does a 17 and a 25 year old closely resemble the Lurgan case?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 25, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
Sure you're still a boy yourself?

Classy stuff .......... going to threaten me with a box next?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 10:51:09 PM
A 60 year old man is 60! Whether he in his own head thinks he’s 14  is entirely different.. in the Uk if a man and woman or girl over the age of 16 gave consensual sex then that’s the law, now you can’t change that..

What’s underage? 15? It’s still against the law regardless, if a 16 year old has sex with 15 year old it’s against the law and the 16 risks being put on the sex offenders list and charged

Same thing if a 60 year old woman had sex with a 16 year old boy

If you come in and are not sure about the laws look them up first before giving hypothetical questions
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2018, 10:56:36 PM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

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Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.
Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?

So in your book a 17 year old can’t have sex with a 25 year? Regardless of the laws which says different..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2018, 12:27:58 PM
Sure you're still a boy yourself?

Classy stuff .......... going to threaten me with a box next?
Gabe you like to put words in my mouth. You baited me when you first entered the conversation and you're baiting me now.  I never threatened Eamonn with a box I said a few years ago that he was going to get one because of his constant badgering and I don't think I was on the first on the board to say something like that and I doubt I'll be the last.  He didn't get a box and has since ended his crusade. I don't know what your problem is. If you want to take it up with me on PM go ahead.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

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Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.
Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?

So in your book a 17 year old can’t have sex with a 25 year? Regardless of the laws which says different..
I do understand the laws. My hypothetical questions have been to ask your opinions on it (regardless of the laws). I don't care that the legal age is 16 - my kids won't be having sex at 16 if I can help it. I woulldn't allow my 17 year old daughter (one day) to date a 25 year old, a 30 year old or a 60 year old - if it's legal or not. That's what I'm asking you - would you?
The legal age is different in many countries. 14 is ok in Germany and that lad in Lurgan would have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law but in Ireland he is going to jail (by the way I have no sympathy for him).....but these nuances challenge our thinking on it all surely?
I would like to just engage in healthy discussion on the matter instead of the likes of Gabe reading a mile into my psyche and wrongly ascertaining my intentions.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 26, 2018, 12:44:50 PM
Sure you're still a boy yourself?

Classy stuff .......... going to threaten me with a box next?
Gabe you like to put words in my mouth. You baited me when you first entered the conversation and you're baiting me now.  I never threatened Eamonn with a box I said a few years ago that he was going to get one because of his constant badgering and I don't think I was on the first on the board to say something like that and I doubt I'll be the last.  He didn't get a box and has since ended his crusade. I don't know what your problem is. If you want to take it up with me on PM go ahead.

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Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: belfastkev on January 26, 2018, 01:05:03 PM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

Quote
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.
Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?

So in your book a 17 year old can’t have sex with a 25 year? Regardless of the laws which says different..
I do understand the laws. My hypothetical questions have been to ask your opinions on it (regardless of the laws). I don't care that the legal age is 16 - my kids won't be having sex at 16 if I can help it. I woulldn't allow my 17 year old daughter (one day) to date a 25 year old, a 30 year old or a 60 year old - if it's legal or not. That's what I'm asking you - would you?
The legal age is different in many countries. 14 is ok in Germany and that lad in Lurgan would have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law but in Ireland he is going to jail (by the way I have no sympathy for him).....but these nuances challenge our thinking on it all surely?
I would like to just engage in healthy discussion on the matter instead of the likes of Gabe reading a mile into my psyche and wrongly ascertaining my intentions.

The Chief Constable of the RUC/PSNI has stated that there have been NO convictions due to the actions of these vigilantes:

http://www.thejournal.ie/paedophile-hunter-groups-ireland-3790290-Jan2018/

So I highly doubt that anybody is going to go to jail because of something that the vigilantes have "caught" them doing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

Quote
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.
Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?

So in your book a 17 year old can’t have sex with a 25 year? Regardless of the laws which says different..
I do understand the laws. My hypothetical questions have been to ask your opinions on it (regardless of the laws). I don't care that the legal age is 16 - my kids won't be having sex at 16 if I can help it. I woulldn't allow my 17 year old daughter (one day) to date a 25 year old, a 30 year old or a 60 year old - if it's legal or not. That's what I'm asking you - would you?
The legal age is different in many countries. 14 is ok in Germany and that lad in Lurgan would have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law but in Ireland he is going to jail (by the way I have no sympathy for him).....but these nuances challenge our thinking on it all surely?
I would like to just engage in healthy discussion on the matter instead of the likes of Gabe reading a mile into my psyche and wrongly ascertaining my intentions.

A bit of advice, dont control your kids, give them sense to make the right decisions..

I'd already said that any right thinking parent would object to a 60 year old dating their 16/17 year old child (boy/girl) but you have to accept that not every kid grows up in a loving family, were there is plenty of support and sensible thinking...

If the law in one country says they can at whatever age, then it doesnt make it morally right, but thats just that... My daughters will be/are dating lads... they run in a circle of friends that go to school together so they are really only exposed to people of the same age, you are talking about very rare opportunities that a person in their 60's will have an opportunity with a 16/17 year old andif that happens there is generally something wrong with both of them, one a pervert the other confused vunerable or just looking attention (the case of the oil Barron)

Elvis met his future wife when she was 14, married after 7 years of courtship and had a family.. one example of a older male with a young girl, do you think Elvis was a pervert?

Like i posted on here already, there is not a single person i believe encourages a releationship with a 60 year old (man/woman) with a 16/17 year old (girl/boy)

The film is just that a story of a friendship growing into a relationship, people will continually have a crush on older people, the film the Graduate prime example
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2018, 01:28:43 PM
I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: johnneycool on January 26, 2018, 01:55:31 PM
I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2018, 02:00:48 PM
Yes - I don't have a problem with that tactic. What would you do yourself? I don't think at 14 any child has run of the house or freedom to do whatever they want..? Maybe thats a different thread too.  Parenting techniques / approaches.
What I will say is every child is different. I have 5 and they all have different personalities and different forms of discipline work for each one. I don't have a 14 year old yet. My oldest is 9. So if anyone with a 14 year old or older would like to chime that would be great!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: John Martin on January 26, 2018, 02:35:32 PM
What about your hypothetical 17 year old trying to date a 25 year old. Would your methods change?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2018, 03:00:18 PM
What about your hypothetical 17 year old trying to date a 25 year old. Would your methods change?
Parents shouldn't be afraid to be the parents. All kids are different like I've said. It's all circumstantial and I would be open to protecting the child whatever way I deemed necessary at the time your honour
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 26, 2018, 07:46:09 PM
Back to the point.A McDonalds staff member confronted last night,in Navan,I think.I'm lovin' it!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2018, 07:47:58 PM
Back to the point.A McDonalds staff member confronted last night,in Navan,I think.I'm lovin' it!

You look like you love McDees too much lad!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 26, 2018, 11:46:59 PM
Why is Jay Donnelly playing for Cliftonville while facing charges of possession of child pornography? Shocking decision by the Reds...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2018, 12:32:14 AM
It's pretty obvious what I (and everyone else) can see what you were at.

You are the one coming in screaming about a film (that you incorrectly described)

Quote
Gay man targeted for grooming a 14 year old boy. Hollywood promotes man boy relationship.
Gabe a 17 year old is still a boy in my book. Sure you're still a boy yourself?

So in your book a 17 year old can’t have sex with a 25 year? Regardless of the laws which says different..
I do understand the laws. My hypothetical questions have been to ask your opinions on it (regardless of the laws). I don't care that the legal age is 16 - my kids won't be having sex at 16 if I can help it. I woulldn't allow my 17 year old daughter (one day) to date a 25 year old, a 30 year old or a 60 year old - if it's legal or not. That's what I'm asking you - would you?
The legal age is different in many countries. 14 is ok in Germany and that lad in Lurgan would have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law but in Ireland he is going to jail (by the way I have no sympathy for him).....but these nuances challenge our thinking on it all surely?
I would like to just engage in healthy discussion on the matter instead of the likes of Gabe reading a mile into my psyche and wrongly ascertaining my intentions.

The Chief Constable of the RUC/PSNI has stated that there have been NO convictions due to the actions of these vigilantes:

http://www.thejournal.ie/paedophile-hunter-groups-ireland-3790290-Jan2018/

So I highly doubt that anybody is going to go to jail because of something that the vigilantes have "caught" them doing.
That says it all really :(
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2018, 12:46:58 AM
But they are selling hoddies caps and other clothing stuff, apparently they are selling a shit load of this stuff!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 27, 2018, 08:17:20 AM
Why is Jay Donnelly playing for Cliftonville while facing charges of possession of child pornography? Shocking decision by the Reds...

After conceding 6 goals to Ballinamallard last night,Reds fans will be querying why any of their players are playing for Cliftonville!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 27, 2018, 10:56:07 AM
Why is Jay Donnelly playing for Cliftonville while facing charges of possession of child pornography? Shocking decision by the Reds...

After conceding 6 goals to Ballinamallard last night,Reds fans will be querying why any of their players are playing for Cliftonville!

ans you say Derry Girls is not funny : (
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: stew on January 27, 2018, 01:30:09 PM
I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?

I would consider any 24 year old trying to date a 14 year old a pervert, he is sexually interested in a child ffs!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2018, 02:05:26 PM
I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?

I would consider any 24 year old trying to date a 14 year old a pervert, he is sexually interested in a child ffs!

So Elvis was a pervert
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on January 27, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
I wouldn't stand by as the parent of a 14 year old girl and let her date a 24 year old  - no. Do I think he was a pervert? No.  But I do think the gap is too much at that age.  Just reading in to the history of the relationship it says he introduced her to drugs in 1962 when she was 17 and it became part of her lifestyle and theirs together. At 16/17 years old being introduced to drugs by a well known, older celebrity and being allowed at that age by her parents to move in with him... I would have continued parenting and not allowed it to happen until she was 18 I believe. I don't think it's controlling. My motivation here would be to protect the girl the same way you make your kids put on a seat belt in the car...this isn't to stop your fun it's to protect you from harm.

Who know's what Elvis would have messaged to this girl had Tinder or text messaging been around back in his day. How would it be handled by the media today if a 24 year old Beiber pursued a 14 year old?

I think there needs to be some additional layer of protection for teens in the age of consent laws.  If they are low so as not to criminalize teenage sex they could perhaps add a provision around age gap that lasts to 18 at least to avoid predators flaunting the law and 60 year old men legally having sex with 16 year olds.

As a parent myself I understand where you are coming from, but one question, what tools do you have at your disposal to prevent your 14 year old from seeing this 24 year old, lock her in for the night or what?

I would consider any 24 year old trying to date a 14 year old a pervert, he is sexually interested in a child ffs!

So Elvis was a pervert

Yes
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2018, 02:24:30 PM
Not disagreeing... shows you the difference when it’s a famous person how they got away with it!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: armaghniac on January 28, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
There was a guy on the radio today who made the point that governments should enlist and regularise these people who wish to track down these internet abusers.
So you'd have an internet division of the Garda reserve who would do things in an organised and responsible way. Given that there are people in Ireland with very useful IT skills these could bring this knowledge to this work also.
Will the government have the 'cop' to do this?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on January 28, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
There was a guy on the radio today who made the point that governments should enlist and regularise these people who wish to track down these internet abusers.
So you'd have an internet division of the Garda reserve who would do things in an organised and responsible way. Given that there are people in Ireland with very useful IT skills these could bring this knowledge to this work also.
Will the government have the 'cop' to do this?

No. They already have people doing this who must go through rigorous vetting.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 28, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 08:48:29 PM
I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.

Where do the police have a high public opinion? Jeeze lad you are thick
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 28, 2018, 09:11:33 PM
I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.

Where do the police have a high public opinion? Jeeze lad you are thick

Try reading my post word for word,use a dictionary if necessary,then point out where I said the Police have a high public opinion? I said the Police resent these groups because they (i e the Groups) have high public endorsement unlike the Police.Do you understand or is further elaboration required?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 28, 2018, 09:21:32 PM
Id say they resent them because they make it harder to get convictions
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 28, 2018, 10:41:14 PM
I think the Police resent the popularity these groups enjoy with the General Public which contrasts drastically with the low public opinion of the Police.

Where do the police have a high public opinion? Jeeze lad you are thick

Try reading my post word for word,use a dictionary if necessary,then point out where I said the Police have a high public opinion? I said the Police resent these groups because they (i e the Groups) have high public endorsement unlike the Police.Do you understand or is further elaboration required?

Read it, and you’re still thick
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 28, 2018, 11:49:22 PM
Id say they resent them because they make it harder to get convictions

The conviction rate of people caught by these groups is abysmal. The group admins should take that into account whilst they are holding them hostage in car parks for likes and comments from the mob.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 28, 2018, 11:55:08 PM
I see the paedo hunters nabbed another man from the Lisburn Road, Belfast this evening... have to say the ones they catch seem to be bang to rights. Am starting to think they are doing a good job. There is a US TV show does this where cops then wait nearby and detain the persons. Maybe here they shud also wait till after they are convicted in court to put it on Facebook.

And give up their Z list celebrity status? No. They won't be doing that anytime soon.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 29, 2018, 01:11:30 AM
It's not about conviction,it's about widespread exposure and all its positive consequences.

It has long since been accepted that Police are generally incompetent and the law prioritises the rights of the criminal.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 29, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
It's not about conviction,it's about widespread exposure and all its positive consequences.

It has long since been accepted that Police are generally incompetent and the law prioritises the rights of the criminal.

I'm starting to think maybe just may be you're on the wind up ???
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on January 29, 2018, 07:33:22 AM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 29, 2018, 08:30:30 AM
Guy from New Lodge caught yesterday.  Saw a bit of the video which was excruciatingly difficult to watch.  I'm no legal expert, but the way the questions and statements were worded etc I would have no doubt that, with a decent solicitor, this guy will get away with it.

Fairly well known musician he is too. 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2018, 10:04:17 AM
Guy from New Lodge caught yesterday.  Saw a bit of the video which was excruciatingly difficult to watch.  I'm no legal expert, but the way the questions and statements were worded etc I would have no doubt that, with a decent solicitor, this guy will get away with it.

Fairly well known musician he is too.

Did they sell any hoodies though?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on January 29, 2018, 10:23:51 AM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators

Wtf?! What are they doing?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 29, 2018, 10:54:39 AM
Guy from New Lodge caught yesterday.  Saw a bit of the video which was excruciatingly difficult to watch.  I'm no legal expert, but the way the questions and statements were worded etc I would have no doubt that, with a decent solicitor, this guy will get away with it.

Fairly well known musician he is too.

Did they sell any hoodies though?

Just imagine Fearon running about in his "I Heart Nonce Catchers" hoodie.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on January 29, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
It's not about conviction,it's about widespread exposure and all its positive consequences.

It has long since been accepted that Police are generally incompetent and the law prioritises the rights of the criminal.

Its not about convictions? Really?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 29, 2018, 11:21:02 AM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators

Wtf?! What are they doing?

They opened a channel for donations. Yes really.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 29, 2018, 11:23:34 AM
It's not about conviction,it's about widespread exposure and all its positive consequences.

It has long since been accepted that Police are generally incompetent and the law prioritises the rights of the criminal.

Its not about convictions? Really?

If they wanted convictions they would hand in all evidence to the cops and let due process take it's course. But of course that would get in the way of providing entertainment appealing to the lowest common denominator which in turn ruins any chance of a successful conviction.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on January 29, 2018, 12:13:44 PM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators

Wtf?! What are they doing?

They opened a channel for donations. Yes really.

Sure how the fcuk else do you think they pay for the top spec MacBook Pros and IPhone X's required to catch these predators?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 29, 2018, 01:51:58 PM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators

Wtf?! What are they doing?

They opened a channel for donations. Yes really.

Sure how the fcuk else do you think they pay for the top spec MacBook Pros and IPhone X's required to catch these predators?

You mustn't have saw the vid from yesterday!  ;)

Think it was filmed on a Nokia 3210!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 29, 2018, 03:17:39 PM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators

Wtf?! What are they doing?

They opened a channel for donations. Yes really.

Sure how the fcuk else do you think they pay for the top spec MacBook Pros and IPhone X's required to catch these predators?

You mustn't have saw the vid from yesterday!  ;)

Think it was filmed on a Nokia 3210!

What page was it on?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 29, 2018, 03:22:26 PM
The delightfully named "Nonce Catchers NI".
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2018, 03:23:25 PM
The delightfully named "Nonce Catchers NI".

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Nonce catchers NI!! wtf
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 29, 2018, 03:31:08 PM
Asking for donations to buy phones...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2018, 03:33:22 PM
Asking for donations to buy phones...

TF should send some of his winnings from all the bets he gets up (calls it after the game is over) and they'd be getting the perverts locked up quicker, or not, being the case
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: johnneycool on January 29, 2018, 04:15:12 PM
The delightfully named "Nonce Catchers NI".

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Nonce catchers NI!! wtf

Sweet fúck, they are calling themselves the Nonce Catchers NI.

And they want to be taken seriously!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 29, 2018, 04:23:11 PM
The delightfully named "Nonce Catchers NI".

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Nonce catchers NI!! wtf

Sweet fúck, they are calling themselves the Nonce Catchers NI.

And they want to be taken seriously!

If they were called the OWC Nonce Catchers PLC, we might take them seriously.  Probably a bunch of ex fleg protesters, taking up a new vocation.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on January 29, 2018, 05:13:37 PM
Asking for donations to buy phones...

TF should send some of his winnings from all the bets he gets up (calls it after the game is over) and they'd be getting the perverts locked up quicker, or not, being the case
Bound to have won a few as well along the way that he could donate.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: LeoMc on January 29, 2018, 09:07:57 PM
Nonce catchers NI!

One man on here has been using the term nonce regularly.
One man on here regularly advocates the NI identity.
One man on here defends these vigilante spides.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 29, 2018, 10:22:51 PM
Nonce Catchers NI. Not a bad corporate title,though it might be better dropping the NI.However a strapline is required. "We catch,you watch" or "If you prey we'll visit you someday"
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on January 29, 2018, 10:25:20 PM
Guy from New Lodge caught yesterday.  Saw a bit of the video which was excruciatingly difficult to watch.  I'm no legal expert, but the way the questions and statements were worded etc I would have no doubt that, with a decent solicitor, this guy will get away with it.

Fairly well known musician he is too.

Which of the groups had this ?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 29, 2018, 10:32:38 PM
Not Van Morrison? That would be an excruciating watch!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
Was one of the singing priests !!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on January 29, 2018, 10:39:38 PM
Nonce Catchers NI. Not a bad corporate title,though it might be better dropping the NI.However a strapline is required. "We catch,you watch" or "If you prey we'll visit you someday"

or we pretend to pray but is a cover to prey @bradycoverup.com
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on January 30, 2018, 08:03:59 AM
Well it’s good to see their endeavours have quickly turned into a business venture, I hope they make loads of money catch lots of predators

Wtf?! What are they doing?

They opened a channel for donations. Yes really.

Sure how the fcuk else do you think they pay for the top spec MacBook Pros and IPhone X's required to catch these predators?

You mustn't have saw the vid from yesterday!  ;)

Think it was filmed on a Nokia 3210!

Wait I meant berkeley superkings not iPhones  ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on January 30, 2018, 08:04:35 AM
Guy from New Lodge caught yesterday.  Saw a bit of the video which was excruciatingly difficult to watch.  I'm no legal expert, but the way the questions and statements were worded etc I would have no doubt that, with a decent solicitor, this guy will get away with it.

Fairly well known musician he is too.

Which of the groups had this ?

Nonce Catchers NI.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 09:56:46 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 10:02:35 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 10:38:56 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 10:45:12 AM
Here ya go.....the whole "nonce" thing was spoofed on Brass Eye years ago -

"Paedogeddon!" special (2001)[edit]

A special one-off edition of the show aired four years after the series had ended. Originally scheduled to broadcast on 5 July 2001, it was later delayed as Channel 4 were unhappy with the timing in connection to the then-recent separate disappearances of two children, Bunmi Shagaya and Danielle Jones.[3] It eventually aired on 28 July 2001.

It tackled paedophilia and the moral panic in parts of the British media following the murder of Sarah Payne, focusing on the name-and-shame campaign conducted by the News of the World in its wake.[citation needed] This included an incident in 2000 in which a paediatrician in Newport had the word "PAEDO" daubed in yellow paint on her home.[4] News of the World's then Editor Rebekah Brooks would years later discuss this campaign at the Leveson Inquiry.[5]

To illustrate the media's knee-jerk reaction to the subject, various celebrities were duped into presenting fatuous and often ridiculous pieces to camera in the name of a campaign against paedophiles. Gary Lineker and Phil Collins endorsed a spoof charity, Nonce Sense, (pronounced "nonsense"—"nonce" being British slang for people convicted or suspected of molestation or sexual crimes), with Collins saying, "I'm talking Nonce Sense!" Tomorrow's World presenter Philippa Forrester and ITN reporter Nicholas Owen were shown explaining the details of fictional "Hidden Online Entrapment Control System", or HOECS (pronounced "hoax") computer games, which online paedophiles were using to abuse children via the internet.[6] Capital Radio DJ Neil "Doctor" Fox (himself arrested in 2014 relating to alleged historic sex offences, though completely cleared when the cases went to trial) told viewers that "paedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than they do with you and me", adding "Now that is scientific fact—there's no real evidence for it—but it is scientific fact". At one point, bogus CCTV footage was shown of a paedophile attempting to seduce children by stalking the streets while disguised as a school.

Lineker described paedophile text slang, stating that "BALTIMORA" translates to "literally, I'm running at them now with my trousers down". Labour MP Syd Rapson related that paedophiles were using "an area of internet the size of Ireland". Richard Blackwood stated that internet paedophiles could make computer keyboards emit noxious fumes to subdue children, subsequently sniffing a keyboard and claiming that he could smell the fumes, which made him feel "suggestible". Blackwood also warned watching parents that exposure to the fumes would make their children "smell like hammers". Other notable figures appearing as themselves were Sebastian Coe, Michael Hames, Andy McNab, Kate Thornton, Barbara Follett MP and Gerald Howarth MP.[citation needed]

Morris reported that convicted child murderer Sidney Cooke had been sent into space to keep him away from children. Prior to the launch, an eight-year-old boy had been placed on board the spaceship with Cooke by mistake.[7][8] During the programme, the studio was "invaded" by a fictional militant pro-paedophile activism organisation called "Milit-pede", and the programme appeared to suffer a short technical disturbance. When it returned, presenter Chris Morris confronted a spokesman, Gerard Chote (played by Simon Pegg), who had been placed in a pillory, asking if he wanted sex with Morris's six-year-old son (actually a child actor).[7] Hesitantly, the spokesman refused, apologetically explaining "I don't fancy him".

The episode won a Broadcast magazine award in 2002.[citation needed]
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 10:55:21 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 11:15:07 AM
I was at Greencastle, but he covers Whitehouse, Whiteabbey & Greenisland as well, as far as I know. I normally don't darken their door & I have moved to posher climes anyway! I didn't even recognise him when he arrived up one night at my relatives' house....shows you how much I know.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 30, 2018, 11:18:19 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?

No priests were caught, that was a wind up! 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 30, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
Ffs ye ganches
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 11:24:02 AM
No priests were caught? Another good result, all thanks to the hard work of Father Brady.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on January 30, 2018, 11:38:47 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Just make sure you don't tie your coat around your waist when you've the hoodie on
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 11:39:10 AM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?

No priests were caught, that was a wind up!

Maybe think before you type lad...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?

No priests were caught, that was a wind up!

Maybe think before you type lad...

Yes, must remember how gullible people are
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 02:00:35 PM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?

No priests were caught, that was a wind up!

Maybe think before you type lad...

Yes, must remember how gullible people are

Yip.. Plus one of them has a family member who would be quite prominent on the board. I'm sure he wouldn't want to see that written about his brother even as a wind up..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: haranguerer on January 30, 2018, 02:02:43 PM

Yes, must remember how gullible people are

Yes, people believing your post that a priest was a paedophile, with all the recent scandals, would make them gullible alright.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?

No priests were caught, that was a wind up!

Maybe think before you type lad...

Yes, must remember how gullible people are

Yip.. Plus one of them has a family member who would be quite prominent on the board. I'm sure he wouldn't want to see that written about his brother even as a wind up..

Its funny you should say that as plenty on the Antrim board, yourself included make points (falsely at times) of people that would read the the board. I'm sure if they knew you they wouldnt be happy either
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on January 30, 2018, 02:55:17 PM
Was one of the singing priests !!

Was one of the singing priests not up around your parish at a time?

Dont have a parish

There's one of them has been parachuted into the Loughshore parishes, along the Shore Road in Newtownabbey, of late. He did a funeral & month's mind that I was at before Christmas.....for the second one, he was in the drink section in Tesco's at the Abbeycentre after Mass, spending the evening's collection, quicker than I was able to get there!

Is that the one at the roundabout across from the petrol station? much take a nosey up and wear my new hoddie from the pervert catchers NI

Nearly facing the big church where pastor shararara law preaches. Is this is singing priest that was caught?

No priests were caught, that was a wind up!

Maybe think before you type lad...

Yes, must remember how gullible people are

Yip.. Plus one of them has a family member who would be quite prominent on the board. I'm sure he wouldn't want to see that written about his brother even as a wind up..

Its funny you should say that as plenty on the Antrim board, yourself included make points (falsely at times) of people that would read the the board. I'm sure if they knew you they wouldnt be happy either

Have I ever said that a man was a paedophile when he wasn't?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 03:02:21 PM
No, and i did post it was a wind up, but thats been lost on you
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 30, 2018, 07:41:39 PM
Predator Groups should have their own dedicated channel on Sky.Audience figures would go through the roof
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 07:53:00 PM
Predator Groups should have their own dedicated channel on Sky.Audience figures would go through the roof

Go the whole hog.....lets sign up David Attenborough for the
 voiceovers.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2018, 08:03:26 PM
Predator Groups should have their own dedicated channel on Sky.Audience figures would go through the roof

surprised you haven't been over the death notices thread given the news today
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 30, 2018, 08:14:33 PM
Predator Groups should have their own dedicated channel on Sky.Audience figures would go through the roof

surprised you haven't been over the death notices thread given the news today

Even better than the IKEA news?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 30, 2018, 10:06:21 PM
"If we didn’t go live on Facebook then no one would know him. Therefore if the predator is bailed or only gets a suspended sentence, they continue to live their normal lives and continue to be around children on a daily basis with no repercussions.

Anyone with any sense knows it’s not the family’s fault and it is usually hardest on them."


These words from the Predator Group themselves sums up why I support them.I don't think anyone could take issue with this statement.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 30, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
"If we didn’t go live on Facebook then no one would know him. Therefore if the predator is bailed or only gets a suspended sentence, they continue to live their normal lives and continue to be around children on a daily basis with no repercussions.

Anyone with any sense knows it’s not the family’s fault and it is usually hardest on them."


These words from the Predator Group themselves sums up why I support them.I don't think anyone could take issue with this statement.

Well I can. Their name is plastered all over the news and local papers.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 30, 2018, 10:14:42 PM
It is social media and live feeds that get the exposure though.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 30, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
It is social media and live feeds that get the exposure though.

So after the court system let’s them out on bail the mob can then commit more crime by murdering him. It’s a win win. I wonder will that be the icing on top! You’d love to see that live on Facebook T
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on January 31, 2018, 11:12:30 AM
"If we didn’t go live on Facebook then no one would know him. Therefore if the predator is bailed or only gets a suspended sentence, they continue to live their normal lives and continue to be around children on a daily basis with no repercussions.

Anyone with any sense knows it’s not the family’s fault and it is usually hardest on them."


These words from the Predator Group themselves sums up why I support them.I don't think anyone could take issue with this statement.

I could actually. No longer are people innocent until proven guilty. They are innocent until they have a light shone on then in a carpark to extract an admission under duress. This is reflected by the fact that zero convictions have been made in the north this far.

I have no doubt that the majority of those "caught" are guilty but the name and shame culture is something that doesn't sit right with me.

Also there's this...

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/uda-attacks-men-named-as-paedophiles-by-facebook-vigilante-group-36474106.html
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 31, 2018, 08:38:48 PM
Good one last night! Trapped was a young nonce known to my wife,who had done some accounting work for him,after being asked by a family member in the same trade a couple of years ago.Said he was an arrogant wee shite but reduced to a bumbling wreck last night!😂
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 09:02:37 PM
Did read the link in the post above?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 31, 2018, 09:27:07 PM
I did and this made me laugh!😂😂


We are the professionals with the expert knowledge and experience to carry out rigorous investigations to the required evidential standard.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 31, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
Yours sincerely,
The College Of Cardinals.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on January 31, 2018, 09:56:55 PM
What is funny? Guy is innocent - life ruined. Guy is lured in - nothing can be done as it will probably not stand up in court. It may or may not prevent further incidents and save victims.

Really there is nothing funny in any situation.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on January 31, 2018, 10:34:29 PM
I can't believe this.A friend texted my wife with the link to the wee sc**bag last night.That's what it's all about.Exposure.Now loads of people know him and the risk involved.His life is ruined regardless of whether the useless Police or corrupt not fit for purpose justice system convict him or not.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
I can't believe this.A friend texted my wife with the link to the wee sc**bag last night.That's what it's all about.Exposure.Now loads of people know him and the risk involved.His life is ruined regardless of whether the useless Police or corrupt not fit for purpose justice system convict him or not.

But sure you’d have know this as you’ve been glued to the hunters pages!

So the only reason the police can’t do anything is, they are useless, corrupt, and the courts aren’t fit for purpose?

You still don’t think that the exposure methods from these nike air track bottom professionals is holding back convictions?

If they are caught by police and prosecuted they will be exposed.. by newspapers and Tv or is there something I’m missing?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on January 31, 2018, 11:54:36 PM
I can't believe this.A friend texted my wife with the link to the wee sc**bag last night.That's what it's all about.Exposure.Now loads of people know him and the risk involved.His life is ruined regardless of whether the useless Police or corrupt not fit for purpose justice system convict him or not.

But sure you’d have know this as you’ve been glued to the hunters pages!

So the only reason the police can’t do anything is, they are useless, corrupt, and the courts aren’t fit for purpose?

You still don’t think that the exposure methods from these nike air track bottom professionals is holding back convictions?

If they are caught by police and prosecuted they will be exposed.. by newspapers and Tv or is there something I’m missing?

Tony seems to be missing something. . . what's to stop these scumbags moving to England or down South, changing their name and doing it again?!!

That's all good being caught now on Facebook but if the police don't get them they're still free and can move wherever they like without being monitored. . . they websites provide a great service though!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 01, 2018, 12:03:37 AM
I can't believe this.A friend texted my wife with the link to the wee sc**bag last night.That's what it's all about.Exposure.Now loads of people know him and the risk involved.His life is ruined regardless of whether the useless Police or corrupt not fit for purpose justice system convict him or not.

But sure you’d have know this as you’ve been glued to the hunters pages!

So the only reason the police can’t do anything is, they are useless, corrupt, and the courts aren’t fit for purpose?

You still don’t think that the exposure methods from these nike air track bottom professionals is holding back convictions?

If they are caught by police and prosecuted they will be exposed.. by newspapers and Tv or is there something I’m missing?

Tony seems to be missing something. . . what's to stop these scumbags moving to England or down South, changing their name and doing it again?!!

That's all good being caught now on Facebook but if the police don't get them they're still free and can move wherever they like without being monitored. . . they websites provide a great service though!

He’s missing nothing.  Tony’s a big advocate of paedophiles avoiding the police and moving to pastures new.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 01, 2018, 07:24:32 AM
The point is without these groups these scumbags and their activities would never come to the attention of anyone,including the Police.

I do not understand the failure to convict every one of them given the copious evidence gathered by these groups.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 01, 2018, 07:41:52 AM
The point is without these groups these scumbags and their activities would never come to the attention of anyone,including the Police.

I do not understand the failure to convict every one of them given the copious evidence gathered by these groups.

I think the bolded bit is really the key point here.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 01, 2018, 04:28:25 PM
What's the point in catching paedophiles if you don't entertain the pitchfork wielding masses in the process?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 01, 2018, 04:35:09 PM
what about the
hunters netting drug dealers as well? another blight on communities.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 01, 2018, 04:41:16 PM
what about the
hunters netting drug dealers as well? another blight on communities.

drug dealers for me are on a par with paedophiles but why isn't there the same public outrage towards drug dealers?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 01, 2018, 04:45:23 PM
what about the
hunters netting drug dealers as well?
another blight on communities.

Aren't they the same people?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 01, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
what about the
hunters netting drug dealers as well?
another blight on communities.

Aren't they the same people?

would be interesting to know their backgrounds right enough.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 01, 2018, 05:52:50 PM
The point is without these groups these scumbags and their activities would never come to the attention of anyone,including the Police.

I do not understand the failure to convict every one of them given the copious evidence gathered by these groups.

OK, you clearly have the mental capacity of a turd so I'll try to explain in very simple terms.

It is not evidence.  NONE of it is admissible in court.  The ONLY way that the police can get a conviction from these things is to seize computers, phones etc after being alerted and search it themselves in the hope that they'll find some REAL evidence.  Which, as yet, they haven't been able to do in ANY case.

Clear enough?

Of course, if you want to continue pleasuring yourself watching these videos by all means continue, but at least try to be aware that these people are actually more likely to be lessening the chances of a paedophile being convicted.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 01, 2018, 06:04:47 PM
It is you that is of Turdish extraction. Ffs if the legal system wasn't full of bullshit technicalities these t**ts would be convicted on the basis of turning up to meet what they think is a child.Besides the hunters have ample evidence in the form of screen shots, print outs and the video footage itself,which they hand over to the Police.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 01, 2018, 06:08:36 PM
It is you that is of Turdish extraction. Ffs if the legal system wasn't full of bullshit technicalities these t**ts would be convicted on the basis of turning up to meet what they think is a child.Besides the hunters have ample evidence in the form of screen shots, print outs and the video footage itself,which they hand over to the Police.

Clearly your metal incapacity affects your ability to read.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 01, 2018, 06:09:44 PM
I understand it is not admissible in court.What I want to know is why?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2018, 06:16:59 PM
I understand it is not admissible in court.What I want to know is why?

So you understand that it needs to change direction? Turn off the phones hand over the evidence and give the information to the professionals, the ones who get paid to do it, trained to do it, you know, the police?

Maybe they won’t all get convicted but, one more would be a 100% improvement on what’s happened with the Nike air lads!

Btw did you buy their hoodies yet?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 01, 2018, 06:50:35 PM
How come the sting in Leeds of the RTÉ producer produced a quick conviction?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2018, 07:02:23 PM
How come the sting in Leeds of the RTÉ producer produced a quick conviction?

Don’t know, how come the rest haven’t?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 01, 2018, 09:28:39 PM
Different police forces,one competent,the other a joke
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2018, 10:45:20 PM
English police force competent? Guildford and Birmingham to mind but sure you’d wouldn’t remember those
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 02, 2018, 08:56:36 AM
I understand it is not admissible in court.What I want to know is why?

There are certain standards that evidence is required to meet... 95% of this stuff doesn't even pass the most basic of tests...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 12:31:50 AM
What is it that you don't understand that these groups main objective is to give as wide as possible exposure to peadophiles? The fact that the Police fail to secure convictions later for the blatantly guilty only further erodes public confidence in the Police and legal system and increases the popularity of the groups.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 03, 2018, 12:59:12 AM
What is it that you don't understand that these groups main objective is to give as wide as possible exposure to peadophiles? The fact that the Police fail to secure convictions later for the blatantly guilty only further erodes public confidence in the Police and legal system and increases the popularity of the groups.

When they set up a PayPal for donations.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 06:03:56 AM
They incur expenses so have a right to appeal for donations.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2018, 08:59:50 AM
What is it that you don't understand that these groups main objective is to give as wide as possible exposure to peadophiles? The fact that the Police fail to secure convictions later for the blatantly guilty only further erodes public confidence in the Police and legal system and increases the popularity of the groups.

Mainly among fools.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 03, 2018, 10:24:40 AM
They incur expenses so have a right to appeal for donations.

Like what, exactly? Are they getting the HMRC recommended mileage rate of 45p a mile perhaps?

Can we take it that you're donating generously?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 10:26:47 AM
Yes,there is fuel costs,vehicle maintenance,equipment etc.As activity and surveillance increases these costs will increase
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2018, 10:37:24 AM
You buy the latest hoodies?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 03, 2018, 11:07:34 AM
Yes,there is fuel costs,vehicle maintenance,equipment etc.As activity and surveillance increases these costs will increase

Given that you delight in telling the world about your great charitable works, how much are you bankrolling them for?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 12:54:39 PM
I see the main story in the Irish News today that the PSNI have given one of these groups a 19 point checklist of evidence needed to secure prosecutions.Surely this is tantamount to official recognition of these groups if not acceptance of a partnership?😂
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 03, 2018, 01:01:18 PM
I see the main story in the Irish News today that the PSNI have given one of these groups a 19 point checklist of evidence needed to secure prosecutions.Surely this is tantamount to official recognition of these groups if not acceptance of a partnership?😂

I fear that their ADHD / complete lack of any semblance of intelligence will mean that they wouldn't have the capacity to get past point 1.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 01:06:45 PM
Why have the Police shared this information with them? It bears all the hallmarks of recognition as partners in crime fighting
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 03, 2018, 01:12:38 PM
Why have the Police shared this information with them? It bears all the hallmarks of recognition as partners in crime fighting

Well - the RUC & PSNI dealt with some very strange "allies", down the years, so it's no great surprise that they would collaborate with this bunch of lowlife scum as well.....if it's true.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2018, 01:27:15 PM
Why have the Police shared this information with them? It bears all the hallmarks of recognition as partners in crime fighting

Unless you achieve this you are wasting our time? Hardly collaboration - basic sense.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 03, 2018, 01:34:35 PM
Why are there so many of these groups? Surely they’d be better pooling their resources together instead of asking for “donations”. The north isn’t a big place and they’ve pretty much got a presence in each county... unless of course these individuals have some sort of personal motive  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2018, 02:09:54 PM
I see the main story in the Irish News today that the PSNI have given one of these groups a 19 point checklist of evidence needed to secure prosecutions.Surely this is tantamount to official recognition of these groups if not acceptance of a partnership?😂

Just 19 points? Christ did they have any idea of what they were doing at all? If they are in partnership will they be vetted? Be interesting to see how that unfolds
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2018, 02:16:59 PM
I would have thought it would have had more potential to doing people for wasting police time rather than a collaboration.

If these boys keep bringing things forward with insufficient evidence i could see them being prosecuted eventually.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 10:09:14 PM
Why.Surely they are just ordinary citizens reporting a crime?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2018, 10:20:30 PM
If it's entrapment then does it qualify as a crime?

If you repeatedly report crimes which don't fit the legal definition of a crime would you not eventually be guilty of wasting police time not to mention potentially perverting the course of justice?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 03, 2018, 10:42:41 PM
If you plot or turn up to commit crime surely you are guilty.Its like aborting a bank robbery and arresting the would be criminals at the scene
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 03, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
Lol.

Well it would be like it a little bit if someone set up a fake bank yes.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fionntamhnach on February 04, 2018, 01:33:11 AM
So apparently these vigilante groups are using the likes of Grindr to entrap?

That has the potential to all end in tears, especially if someone was wanting to say get someone they don't like fitted up so they can receive "silent justice".

I mean, just for example, T*** F***** has over the years on the interwebs and through ramblings to the local dirtsheets etc. has helped identify certain things about himself that can help narrow down say where he lives or where he works/has worked etc. So now I go into a search engine and type "<name> <village or town of alleged residence>" and up come a few results. If things don't get pinpointed straight away, then a check could be made on sites like 192.com to get access to the "open electoral register" which can make use of say knowing the names of his parents, siblings, partners, children, other household occupants etc. to give a high chance of getting the correct address that he currently lives in. So once armed with that info, grab a mugshot from his Twitter or Facebook account, sign up to Grindr as said person and use the said profile picture, use a fake GPS locator app on the same smartphone which pinpoints to his address (probably best to use a VPN as well to help cover your tracks), and then go ahead and starting looking for profiles within your local area that includes apparent young teenage boys who are desperate for *cough!* and keep stringing this along for a wee while. Sooner or later the local branch of "Nonce Catchers NI" will turn up knocking on his door some evening and I think you can then guess the rest. If you can't then "Facebook Live" will be your friend.

Now would I do this? Feck no, for it's clearly illegal and not very ethical. But it's not difficult to do especially these days when certain people are vain enough to put lots of photos of themselves up on social media along with the readily public info that is easy to access over the WWW that 20 years ago often required trips & appointments to libraries and government offices. But someone who's a sociopath might well be prepared to get right and dirty. For similar examples, see "swatting".

I mean from what I've seen & heard of such groups they don't tend to be the brightest or most rational thinking citizens to be with - if they are creating fake profiles on Grindr, what's the odds that they are sure that anyone they're trying to snare into their paedophile trap isn't itself a fake profile?  :-\
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 04, 2018, 01:55:58 AM
So apparently these vigilante groups are using the likes of Grindr to entrap?

That has the potential to all end in tears, especially if someone was wanting to say get someone they don't like fitted up so they can receive "silent justice".

I mean, just for example, T*** F***** has over the years on the interwebs and through ramblings to the local dirtsheets etc. has helped identify certain things about himself that can help narrow down say where he lives or where he works/has worked etc. So now I go into a search engine and type "<name> <village or town of alleged residence>" and up come a few results. If things don't get pinpointed straight away, then a check could be made on sites like 192.com to get access to the "open electoral register" which can make use of say knowing the names of his parents, siblings, partners, children, other household occupants etc. to give a high chance of getting the correct address that he currently lives in. So once armed with that info, grab a mugshot from his Twitter or Facebook account, sign up to Grindr as said person and use the said profile picture, use a fake GPS locator app on the same smartphone which pinpoints to his address (probably best to use a VPN as well to help cover your tracks), and then go ahead and starting looking for profiles within your local area that includes apparent young teenage boys who are desperate for *cough!* and keep stringing this along for a wee while. Sooner or later the local branch of "Nonce Catchers NI" will turn up knocking on his door some evening and I think you can then guess the rest. If you can't then "Facebook Live" will be your friend.

Now would I do this? Feck no, for it's clearly illegal and not very ethical. But it's not difficult to do especially these days when certain people are vain enough to put lots of photos of themselves up on social media along with the readily public info that is easy to access over the WWW that 20 years ago often required trips & appointments to libraries and government offices. But someone who's a sociopath might well be prepared to get right and dirty. For similar examples, see "swatting".

I mean from what I've seen & heard of such groups they don't tend to be the brightest or most rational thinking citizens to be with - if they are creating fake profiles on Grindr, what's the odds that they are sure that anyone they're trying to snare into their paedophile trap isn't itself a fake profile?  :-\

totally agree with the above. if you are anyway tech savvy it would be very easy to frame someone for this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: themac_23 on February 04, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
Didn’t really want to post this but think it shows these people in context:
Chatting to a friend the other day who has recently split with his long term partner and has 2 young kids. Nicer guy you couldn’t meet. Told me he set up an online dating profile to maybe try meet someone as he isn’t really one for going out to town and money is tight with the 2 boys etc Said he lasted about 4-5 days got messages from fake profiles set up as 18-22 year olds who then after a number of messages say I’m actually only 15 had to put 18 for signing up. The guy isn’t stupid and knew the craic straight away. Challenged one of these messages mainly by pointing out they didn’t speak like a 25 year old. He said he got a message back basically saying he was a pervert because he was on the site and they knew who he was etc etc. Said of the photos they use for the fake profiles no way are they of 15 year olds def people early mid 20s. Personally can’t see any credibility for these people at all.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on February 04, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Good post mac. These scumbags wouldn't  have a clue how to catch a genuinely dangerous online paedophile like Matthew Horan.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 04, 2018, 10:39:12 AM
Why have the Police shared this information with them? It bears all the hallmarks of recognition as partners in crime fighting

Or a "please stop getting these predators off the hook" memo.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on February 04, 2018, 09:13:57 PM
A GAA club member from Co Antrim caught today.   Wanted to go inside and get a coat during his ‘interrogation’   Permission  denied.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 05, 2018, 11:57:21 AM
Tried getting a 25 year old, immediate scuffle broke out, camera down and black. “We video this for our protection and for yours” yet the second it kicks off they stop videoing  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2018, 12:16:00 PM
A GAA club member from Co Antrim caught today.   Wanted to go inside and get a coat during his ‘interrogation’   Permission  denied.

Watched it!! oh dear
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 05, 2018, 12:40:05 PM
I DONT LIKE THIS CROWD AT ALL BUT SAME TIME ALL THOSE OUTED SEEM TO BE TOTALLY BANG TO RIGHTS. (APOLOGIES FOR CAPITALS.. COMPUTER HITCH   :-\)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: NAG1 on February 05, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
A GAA club member from Co Antrim caught today.   Wanted to go inside and get a coat during his ‘interrogation’   Permission  denied.

Watched it!! oh dear

What was the gist of this one MR2? Cant bring myself to watch any of them, totally conflicted on the whole thing and the mess it leaves behind.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 05, 2018, 01:19:05 PM
A GAA club member from Co Antrim caught today.   Wanted to go inside and get a coat during his ‘interrogation’   Permission  denied.

Watched it!! oh dear

What was the gist of this one MR2? Cant bring myself to watch any of them, totally conflicted on the whole thing and the mess it leaves behind.

it was awful but again seems he was guilty and about underage teams
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 05, 2018, 01:29:12 PM
At one stage he took his jumper off and turned it inside out, possibly to hide the club crest.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2018, 01:33:50 PM
At one stage he took his jumper off and turned it inside out, possibly to hide the club crest.

He would have needed to turn his head inside out !!!

Defo cant see that one being convicted to TBH, had they have tracked him a bit more or like I've said generate as much as you can and give it to the professionals, then maybe they would have a better chance of a conviction
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 05, 2018, 01:38:23 PM
A GAA club member from Co Antrim caught today.   Wanted to go inside and get a coat during his ‘interrogation’   Permission  denied.

Watched it!! oh dear

What was the gist of this one MR2? Cant bring myself to watch any of them, totally conflicted on the whole thing and the mess it leaves behind.

it was awful but again seems he was guilty and about underage teams
So it wasn't a sting where they set up a decoy? Even more reason for those in the know to go to the authorities.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 05, 2018, 02:01:28 PM
It was a sting with a decoy Tony. 14 year old boy they said.

But the fella done a bit of underage coaching over the past few years.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on February 05, 2018, 02:09:32 PM
Jesus
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 05, 2018, 02:13:30 PM
so they stop people and is public shame but prob leave the area and resume their activities
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: themac_23 on February 05, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
watched a bit of the one there with the fella from Rasharkin, had to turn it off couldnt listen to them clowns. 'if you didn't do anything Ciaran why no comment, will we just go round all your neighbours doors and tell them what you've been talking about online'. who do they think they are? someone posted earlier how easy it would be to frame someone, effectively the line i posted is blackmail, if you dont admit to it we are going to expose you to your friends and neighbours.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: nrico2006 on February 05, 2018, 02:20:17 PM
watched a bit of the one there with the fella from Rasharkin, had to turn it off couldnt listen to them clowns. 'if you didn't do anything Ciaran why no comment, will we just go round all your neighbours doors and tell them what you've been talking about online'. who do they think they are? someone posted earlier how easy it would be to frame someone, effectively the line i posted is blackmail, if you dont admit to it we are going to expose you to your friends and neighbours.
+1. One of the few ive watched (1st 5 minutes) and it was cringy and unprofessional.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 05, 2018, 02:22:08 PM
watched a bit of the one there with the fella from Rasharkin, had to turn it off couldnt listen to them clowns. 'if you didn't do anything Ciaran why no comment, will we just go round all your neighbours doors and tell them what you've been talking about online'. who do they think they are? someone posted earlier how easy it would be to frame someone, effectively the line i posted is blackmail, if you dont admit to it we are going to expose you to your friends and neighbours.
+1. One of the few ive watched (1st 5 minutes) and it was cringy and unprofessional.

true but they are outing these boys...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 05, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
They are about exposing,humiliating,shaming,not about cosy chats.

It should also be remembered they are legal
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 05, 2018, 07:03:54 PM
They are about exposing,humiliating,shaming,not about cosy chats.

It should also be remembered they are legal

Oh I thought it was about getting them off the streets by getting convictions? Has that changed?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on February 05, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
How long before it goes pearshaped? Not very would be my guess, it's only a matter of time before one of these groups  moves to the next stage and dishes out some 'justice'.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 05, 2018, 07:34:59 PM
No that's the Police,Glenanne Gang,allowing paid informers to murder innocent people etc
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on February 06, 2018, 12:23:27 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/police-and-fire-service-attend-suspicious-house-fire-in-rasharkin-36571587.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/police-and-fire-service-attend-suspicious-house-fire-in-rasharkin-36571587.html)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 06, 2018, 08:07:54 AM
That your man's house right enough?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on February 06, 2018, 08:18:59 AM
Yer man or not it's as clear as day where the whole shit show is heading, it's a natural progression for fuckwits & mob mentality.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: themac_23 on February 06, 2018, 08:43:51 AM
Yer man or not it's as clear as day where the whole shit show is heading, it's a natural progression for fuckwits & mob mentality.
100% Agree, these tools are going to get someone seriously injured or worse. innocent until proven guilty and all that... in fact, these morons are making such a mess of the whole process their incompetence is probably making things 100 times worse. heres how i think some of their 'followers' will see the process

1. our heroes do the digging get all this evidence go to the door and put it to the perv, boom have him dead to rights well done lads.
2. Cops take all the great evidence and video confession and mess it up and the perv is back living under mummy and daddys roof.
3. Jesus this isn't on after all the hard work and great work our heroes done to keep everyone safe, something has to be done!
4. rewatching the video and working out where the perv lives, get the address.
5. get a few likeminded and equally fired up individuals to create a mob and here we go, justice will be served!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 06, 2018, 08:44:33 AM
Saw a group on Facebook that looks to be one vigilante group criticising and critiquing the methods of other vigilante groups.  Hunter Vs Hunter it's called. 

Only a matter of time before they start framing each other or two groups arrive at a sting at the same time like a scene out of Anchor Man ffs.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on February 06, 2018, 09:47:59 AM
Some of the English groups are already doing videos criticising each other, accusing the other of being nonces and revealing the other's  identities and addresses.Shane Brannigan, Internet interceptors and the hunted one are 3 hunting factions who seem to be at war on twitter and YouTube. Shades of the hilarious traveller call out videos.

I see the guards raided 31 homes for child pornography in the last few days. Dispels the myth that the police are doing nothing. It's just a bit more difficult to catch real paedophiles.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 06, 2018, 09:52:05 AM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on February 06, 2018, 10:02:55 AM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.
Horrific stuff. All done with impunity it seems. I'm not aware of any of these groups being prosecuted when they screw up someone's life unjustly.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 06, 2018, 10:08:04 AM
Saw a group on Facebook that looks to be one vigilante group criticising and critiquing the methods of other vigilante groups.  Hunter Vs Hunter it's called. 

Only a matter of time before they start framing each other or two groups arrive at a sting at the same time like a scene out of Anchor Man ffs.

seen that page too. somebody on there said that a member of one of the NI hunting groups is a 36 year old who is in a relationship with a 16 year old girl with special needs.
you couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 06, 2018, 10:18:52 AM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?

He'll not have seen these posts ffs! Only focused to the things they have been doing well, well? Nothing i suppose, but that wont stop T
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 06, 2018, 12:49:16 PM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?

Fearon - Over to you...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebigfella on February 06, 2018, 02:39:21 PM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?

Fearon - Over to you...

Let it go lads, they do a great service for the community.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 06, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?

Fearon - Over to you...

Let it go lads, they do a great service for the community.

I'm undecided. They 'catch' someone who then has no future in the area and then moves to do same elsewhere... why the need for the Facebook production? is it to feed their own egos? ... get the evidence and go to police. And to 'out' someone who is innocent is appaling
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: NAG1 on February 06, 2018, 04:14:43 PM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?

Fearon - Over to you...

Let it go lads, they do a great service for the community.

I'm undecided. They 'catch' someone who then has no future in the area and then moves to do same elsewhere... why the need for the Facebook production? is it to feed their own egos? ... get the evidence and go to police. And to 'out' someone who is innocent is appaling

Absolutely, no other reason for the facebook live production which seem to be the norm.

I have not heard of a single conviction as a result of these types of operation, in fact the opposite.




Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on February 06, 2018, 04:18:01 PM
Think I heard 4 from 77 convictions.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: balladmaker on February 06, 2018, 04:26:34 PM
Quote
Think I heard 4 from 77 convictions

3 cases out of 77 reported to the police which they feel are worth progressing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 06, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Tony?

Hellooooo....  Is there anyone out there....?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 06, 2018, 05:30:15 PM
One mistake? Hardly a yardstick to judge.Any videos I've seen those snared have been 100% guilty.I wouldn't want to see these groups get into Competition with each other,they should co operate.

As I said before it's about exposure not convictions,which few people expect anyway
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 05:35:45 PM
One mistake? Hardly a yardstick to judge.Any videos I've seen those snared have been 100% guilty.I wouldn't want to see these groups get into Competition with each other,they should co operate.

As I said before it's about exposure not convictions,which few people expect anyway

4 out of 77 is not one mistake! You have changed your tune though Tony, hard to do that when you head is up it’s own arse! Exposure not convictions! Hmmm
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 06, 2018, 05:51:21 PM
If we hear of Joe Bloggs from Strabane being arrested for child abuse it means nothing.We will never know what he looks like.With these groups we will know exactly what he looks like,no matter where he goes
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 06, 2018, 06:07:39 PM
One mistake? Hardly a yardstick to judge.Any videos I've seen those snared have been 100% guilty.I wouldn't want to see these groups get into Competition with each other,they should co operate.

As I said before it's about exposure not convictions,which few people expect anyway

What happened this shite?

From the videos I've seen these groups are practically professional in evidence gathering etc.As long as they don't overstep the mark I do not have a problem

This group was both unprofessional and overstepped the mark, resulting in serious harm to an innocent man, his family and a totally unrelated business.

It beggars belief how any right thinking person can support this.  But I suppose therein lies my answer.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 06, 2018, 06:37:10 PM
Dr. Goebbels Interfering allows the Catholic church to get away with it, but supports these vigilantes. He is all over the place in his "thinking". A complete idiot, if ever there was one.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2018, 06:59:04 PM
If we hear of Joe Bloggs from Strabane being arrested for child abuse it means nothing.We will never know what he looks like.With these groups we will know exactly what he looks like,no matter where he goes

No we won't. Who watches this shite. Not many right minded people.

I doubt you even believe what you write anyway. You're probably just being contrary to get attention as usual.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on February 06, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
If we hear of Joe Bloggs from Strabane being arrested for child abuse it means nothing.We will never know what he looks like.With these groups we will know exactly what he looks like,no matter where he goes

No we won't. Who watches this shite. Not many right minded people.

I doubt you even believe what you write anyway. You're probably just being contrary to get attention as usual.

Unfortunately the viewing numbers of these videos are very high. . . some disturbed enough people around viewing it for their entertainment so they can type obscenities on  Facebook about the nonce!!

It's a great service though  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Puckoon on February 06, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
Took a look on Nolan's FB page there at the documentation required by the PPS to consider a successful conviction. Don't think many of these cowboys (and girls) would be able to answer anything past the 1st requirement 'Name of the Hunter group'.

Even if they got past requirement #2 - #5 states:

Full details of all decoys (not a pseudonym) are required. In respect of any decoy photographs used by the pedophile hunter groups - proof of the identity of the person shown, evidence that they have consented to the use of their photograph for this purpose and his or her birth certificate where available.

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: ONARAGGATIP on February 06, 2018, 07:30:19 PM
Took a look on Nolan's FB page there at the documentation required by the PPS to consider a successful conviction. Don't think many of these cowboys (and girls) would be able to answer anything past the 1st requirement 'Name of the Hunter group'.

Even if they got past requirement #2 - #5 states:

Full details of all decoys (not a pseudonym) are required. In respect of any decoy photographs used by the pedophile hunter groups - proof of the identity of the person shown, evidence that they have consented to the use of their photograph for this purpose and his or her birth certificate where available.

Good luck with that.

messy as fcuk, its nothing more than entertainment to these groups.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 06, 2018, 08:36:18 PM
These groups are a lot smarter than they're given credit for.Their aim is widespread exposure,and they're highly successful.Secondly they have widespread public acclaim and approval,things the Police would kill for.Thirdly they are showing up the complex judicial system for the farce it is.Ordinary people,and I will temporarily assume ordinariness for the sake of this,simply cannot understand why nonces who go online looking for and grooming what they believe to be children,and then arranging and turning up to meet what they believe to be children for sexual purposes,are not charged,convicted and jailed when they are plainly guilty and a danger to children.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 08:38:55 PM
Now I know you’re laughing up your sleeve at this thread ! WUM
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: playwiththewind1st on February 06, 2018, 09:03:31 PM
I will temporarily assume ordinariness

Hark at the son of god. Romans stringing you up on 30 March, then? Don't bother with the rising from the dead bit on the Sunday though.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 09:05:27 PM
https://www.facebook.com/BarryTheBlender/videos/10156042820304754/
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 06, 2018, 09:36:14 PM
Now I know you’re laughing up your sleeve at this thread ! WUM

Course he is.

He's a fool but not this big a fool!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 06, 2018, 10:27:19 PM
It's all kicked off this evening with Kevin Magee of the BBC. Those hunters are f*ckin nut jobs. just because he dared to give them a taste of their own medicine by showing up at their homes to ask a few questions.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fionntamhnach on February 06, 2018, 10:32:33 PM
Predator Groups should have their own dedicated channel on Sky.Audience figures would go through the roof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkO2_LdgSas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkO2_LdgSas)

"They don't deserve punishment, they deserve gunishment!"
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Jim Bob on February 06, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
It's all kicked off this evening with Kevin Magee of the BBC. Those hunters are f*ckin nut jobs. just because he dared to give them a taste of their own medicine by showing up at their homes to ask a few questions.

Where was this on?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 06, 2018, 10:50:46 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1049978991831267&id=1010929819069518
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 06, 2018, 10:52:38 PM
The mask slips. These spides don’t like it when the shoes on the other foot. Verbal abuse and threats of violence, all the while maintaining some sort of siege mentality. Did they really think the press wouldn’t take an interest in their morale crusade? They’ve shown themselves up for what they truly are - jumped up bullies who use “child protection” as an excuse to act hard, massage their egos and get a pat on the back from the white trash that watch in their thousands. I look forward to the day that they call at the wrong “paedo’s” house and get a gun pointed at them. The way they behaved tonight was nothing short of a disgrace.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 06, 2018, 10:56:13 PM
The videos from this morning: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1565886206797996&id=100001298940280

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=147938842559126&id=139451253407885
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on February 06, 2018, 11:03:14 PM
These groups are a lot smarter than they're given credit for.Their aim is widespread exposure,and they're highly successful.Secondly they have widespread public acclaim and approval,things the Police would kill for.Thirdly they are showing up the complex judicial system for the farce it is.Ordinary people,and I will temporarily assume ordinariness for the sake of this,simply cannot understand why nonces who go online looking for and grooming what they believe to be children,and then arranging and turning up to meet what they believe to be children for sexual purposes,are not charged,convicted and jailed when they are plainly guilty and a danger to children.

Going by this thread alone they certainly do not have widespread public acclaim
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2018, 11:07:07 PM
Oh my dear god! Tony supports  That ! Fecking  twat
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: on the sideline on February 06, 2018, 11:11:29 PM
Oh my dear god! Tony supports  That ! Fecking  twat

Showed themselves up for what they are tonight. Attention seeking thugs and bullies.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 06, 2018, 11:16:51 PM
It's time those fellas got a job.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 06, 2018, 11:22:04 PM
It's time those fellas got a job.
They’re clearly unemployable. I’d love to know their criminal backgrounds.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 07, 2018, 09:27:42 AM
This'll all end in tears.  Someone stabbed or something.

The fat guy doing the shouting last night was some eejit.  He's some lad to be protecting kids.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 09:42:18 AM
This'll all end in tears.  Someone stabbed or something.

The fat guy doing the shouting last night was some eejit.  He's some lad to be protecting kids.

That was the same bloke who was ranting on the second link about Kevin Magee coming to his ex's? house and stressing her.

He talked complete bollox the whole way through.. the guy in the other video sitting in the middle of the road shouting, he's using his car as a weapon to hurt me!! WTF

do they still have a facebook page?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: themac_23 on February 07, 2018, 10:03:11 AM
This'll all end in tears.  Someone stabbed or something.

The fat guy doing the shouting last night was some eejit.  He's some lad to be protecting kids.

That was the same bloke who was ranting on the second link about Kevin Magee coming to his ex's? house and stressing her.

He talked complete bollox the whole way through.. the guy in the other video sitting in the middle of the road shouting, he's using his car as a weapon to hurt me!! WTF

do they still have a facebook page?

they are a disgrace, the treatment they gave Kevin Magee was ridiculous. they have zero credibility. the guy who done all the slabbering wasn't so mouthy when they arrived at his door.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 07, 2018, 01:02:35 PM
The foreign lad was was stung the other week at his place of work in Ballymena has left the country after his mother got attacked on the street outside her house and he got spat at coming from the local shop. Turns out when the decoy said they were underage he stopped texting them and had the texts to prove it, police gave him a total discharge and I believe that the restaurant in question is pursuing legal action or attempting to pursue it as their name appeared a few times.

Mob justice ladies and gentlemen!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 07, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 07, 2018, 01:21:46 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?
Don't feed the troll.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: themac_23 on February 07, 2018, 01:21:59 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?

Tony, sometimes on occasion, i feel you do talk a bit of sense but it gets overshadowed by the b*llsh*t you also post to gain a reaction. to call these characters 'innocent volunteers doing excellent community work' is not only wide off the mark but also extremely disrespectful to the many community workers out there who actually do great work in their community.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 07, 2018, 01:24:55 PM
The way they pulled the rasharkin boy out of the house and lined him up at the front. How hard do you think it will be for his solicitor to quash any possible conviction?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 07, 2018, 01:26:22 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?

'innocent volunteers' with their UDA links...

http://telegra.ph/Who-are-the-Predator-Hunters-NI-01-19
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 07, 2018, 01:26:31 PM
I was reading one of these hunters in Limavady has over 100 criminal convictions himself?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 01:29:30 PM
Would that fall under harrassment and give this guy a way out? The effort they put in is totally wasted, allowing them to be bailed and allowed back on the streets in other areas! I'd never recognise their faces again should they move into a house up the street or round the corner!

Now if they spent time in jail then they wouldnt be around the corner or up the street! But hey lets keep doing it this way and we got 10,000 likes and comments there!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 01:36:10 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?

Tony, sometimes on occasion, i feel you do talk a bit of sense but it gets overshadowed by the b*llsh*t you also post to gain a reaction. to call these characters 'innocent volunteers doing excellent community work' is not only wide off the mark but also extremely disrespectful to the many community workers out there who actually do great work in their community.

+1.

Go and ask the Hassons from Rasharkin how they are feeling? Yes their son has done wrong but why publicly shame a family of decent people who have built up a good business? What effect will this have on them?

Whatever backing they had is slowly being eroded by their current behavior. 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 01:36:48 PM
I was reading one of these hunters in Limavady has over 100 criminal convictions himself?

Where did you see that? I'd like to see that article or post.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 07, 2018, 01:49:32 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?

'innocent volunteers' with their UDA links...

http://telegra.ph/Who-are-the-Predator-Hunters-NI-01-19

quite a jump Tony your sympathy for the Catholic hierarchy covering up for priests child molesters to UDA loving predator hunters  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 07, 2018, 01:52:52 PM
Why is the BBC using licence payers money to harrass innocent volunteers doing excellent community work?

'innocent volunteers' with their UDA links...

http://telegra.ph/Who-are-the-Predator-Hunters-NI-01-19

quite a jump Tony your sympathy for the Catholic hierarchy covering up for priests child molesters to UDA loving predator hunters  ::)
Yep at least you can  give a troll some kudos  when they are consistent on issues (Brendan Rodgers being another U turn of epic proportions (
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 07, 2018, 01:53:15 PM
I was reading one of these hunters in Limavady has over 100 criminal convictions himself?

Where did you see that? I'd like to see that article or post.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/facebook-paedophile-hunter-joe-mccloskey-convicted-of-97th-offence-31350237.html
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 07, 2018, 01:54:00 PM
I was reading one of these hunters in Limavady has over 100 criminal convictions himself?
Yep a real pillar of the community he is
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 07, 2018, 01:55:36 PM
I was reading one of these hunters in Limavady has over 100 criminal convictions himself?

Where did you see that? I'd like to see that article or post.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/facebook-paedophile-hunter-joe-mccloskey-convicted-of-97th-offence-31350237.html

Indecency and drug offences and that's what's protecting our children... so who protects our children from him? He wouldn't pass a vetting process to work with children.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
A real nice lad.. Christ almighty
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: north_antrim_hound on February 07, 2018, 02:10:52 PM
I was reading one of these hunters in Limavady has over 100 criminal convictions himself?

Where did you see that? I'd like to see that article or post.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/facebook-paedophile-hunter-joe-mccloskey-convicted-of-97th-offence-31350237.html

Indecency and drug offences and that's what's protecting our children... so who protects our children from him? He wouldn't pass a vetting process to work with children.

Why does this not supprise me.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 07, 2018, 02:21:38 PM
Never feel all that at ease seeing the videos of these groups.

Why they are maybe a good idea:
1. It's great to expose pedophiles

2. While there may not be many convictions following these stings, at least the public is shown who these pedophiles are. Without these groups, a lot of these pedophiles might not only never be convicted, but might never be even suspected/investigated.


Why I don't like these groups:
1. While they probably bring pedophiles to public attention who would otherwise have never even have been suspected, they probably do more harm than good when it comes to getting these people convicted.

2. The manner in which they behave during their 'stings'. They claim to be on the side of professionalism and decency and be solely motivated by a desire to protect children, yet their videos (which are easily accessible to children) are FULL of vile, sexually explicit language.

3. They seem to be motivated as much by their own self image and egos as anything else. In a lot of their videos it's not enough to tell someone they have evidence that shows they were attempting to groom children and inform them that the police are on the way - they seem to absolutely revel in talking about how they are protecting kids and even asking the accused if they want to thank them for what they are doing etc.

3. They, it seems, have wrongly accused people in the past. Can you for one second imagine one of these groups wrongly accusing you, in SUCH a public fashion, of being a pedophile? That is life destroying.

4. They state when they post videos that people should not attack the family of the accused or their property, but there are countless reports of people doing just that. They then wash their hands of any responsibility for that. That does not sit right with me.

5. The video this morning/last night of them verbally abusing the BBC's Kevin Magee was just sick and really exposed the members of this particular 'hunter' gang as nothing but a gang of absolute thugs and scumbags. The journalist in question broke no laws or journalistic rules when he attempted to inteview one of these 'hunters' at his home in the morning time. The response, as seen in today's video, was that the journalist was verbally assaulted in the street later that night by a large gang of these 'hunters' who behaved like vicious animals. One could even be heard calling Magee "a pedo f**k" as they sat on the road blocking his car (along with a whole street of traffic). During the course of the confrontation, they repeatedly shouted about how they are only interested in 'protecting kids', while they simultaneously walked the streets shouting foul mouth obscenities at Magee - not much concern for the innocence of any kids in the vicinity there. They even made a claim that Magee, when he visited the man's house, was protected by men with balaclavas, even though the man's own video clearly showed the two BBC men with Magee at the house, and neither of them were wearing balaclavas.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 07, 2018, 02:25:11 PM
Never feel all that at ease seeing the videos of these groups.

Why they are maybe a good idea:
1. It's great to expose pedophiles

2. While there may not be many convictions following these stings, at least the public is shown who these pedophiles are. Without these groups, a lot of these pedophiles might not only never be convicted, but might never be even suspected/investigated.


Why I don't like these groups:
1. While they probably bring pedophiles to public attention who would otherwise have never even have been suspected, they probably do more harm than good when it comes to getting these people convicted.

2. The manner in which they behave during their 'stings'. They claim to be on the side of professionalism and decency and be solely motivated by a desire to protect children, yet their videos (which are easily accessible to children) are FULL of vile, sexually explicit language.

3. They seem to be motivated as much by their own self image and egos as anything else. In a lot of their videos it's not enough to tell someone they have evidence that shows they were attempting to groom children and inform them that the police are on the way - they seem to absolutely revel in talking about how they are protecting kids and even asking the accused if they want to thank them for what they are doing etc.

3. They, it seems, have wrongly accused people in the past. Can you for one second imagine one of these groups wrongly accusing you, in SUCH a public fashion, of being a pedophile? That is life destroying.

4. They state when they post videos that people should not attack the family of the accused or their property, but there are countless reports of people doing just that. They then wash their hands of any responsibility for that. That does not sit right with me.

5. The video this morning/last night of them verbally abusing the BBC's Kevin Magee was just sick and really exposed the members of this particular 'hunter' gang as nothing but a gang of absolute thugs and scumbags. The journalist in question broke no laws or journalistic rules when he attempted to inteview one of these 'hunters' at his home in the morning time. The response, as seen in today's video, was that the journalist was verbally assaulted in the street later that night by a large gang of these 'hunters' who behaved like vicious animals. One could even be heard calling Magee "a pedo f**k" as they sat on the road blocking his car (along with a whole street of traffic). During the course of the confrontation, they repeatedly shouted about how they are only interested in 'protecting kids', while they simultaneously walked the streets shouting foul mouth obscenities at Magee - not much concern for the innocence of any kids in the vicinity there. They even made a claim that Magee, when he visited the man's house, was protected by men with balaclavas, even though the man's own video clearly showed the two BBC men with Magee at the house, and neither of them were wearing balaclavas.

Excellent post. I was undecided for a while but now see they are a shower of egotistical thugs
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 07, 2018, 02:30:27 PM
Never feel all that at ease seeing the videos of these groups.

Why they are maybe a good idea:
1. It's great to expose pedophiles

2. While there may not be many convictions following these stings, at least the public is shown who these pedophiles are. Without these groups, a lot of these pedophiles might not only never be convicted, but might never be even suspected/investigated.


Why I don't like these groups:
1. While they probably bring pedophiles to public attention who would otherwise have never even have been suspected, they probably do more harm than good when it comes to getting these people convicted.

2. The manner in which they behave during their 'stings'. They claim to be on the side of professionalism and decency and be solely motivated by a desire to protect children, yet their videos (which are easily accessible to children) are FULL of vile, sexually explicit language.

3. They seem to be motivated as much by their own self image and egos as anything else. In a lot of their videos it's not enough to tell someone they have evidence that shows they were attempting to groom children and inform them that the police are on the way - they seem to absolutely revel in talking about how they are protecting kids and even asking the accused if they want to thank them for what they are doing etc.

3. They, it seems, have wrongly accused people in the past. Can you for one second imagine one of these groups wrongly accusing you, in SUCH a public fashion, of being a pedophile? That is life destroying.

4. They state when they post videos that people should not attack the family of the accused or their property, but there are countless reports of people doing just that. They then wash their hands of any responsibility for that. That does not sit right with me.

5. The video this morning/last night of them verbally abusing the BBC's Kevin Magee was just sick and really exposed the members of this particular 'hunter' gang as nothing but a gang of absolute thugs and scumbags. The journalist in question broke no laws or journalistic rules when he attempted to inteview one of these 'hunters' at his home in the morning time. The response, as seen in today's video, was that the journalist was verbally assaulted in the street later that night by a large gang of these 'hunters' who behaved like vicious animals. One could even be heard calling Magee "a pedo f**k" as they sat on the road blocking his car (along with a whole street of traffic). During the course of the confrontation, they repeatedly shouted about how they are only interested in 'protecting kids', while they simultaneously walked the streets shouting foul mouth obscenities at Magee - not much concern for the innocence of any kids in the vicinity there. They even made a claim that Magee, when he visited the man's house, was protected by men with balaclavas, even though the man's own video clearly showed the two BBC men with Magee at the house, and neither of them were wearing balaclavas.

Great post.  Sums up my thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 02:32:17 PM
Never feel all that at ease seeing the videos of these groups.

Why they are maybe a good idea:
1. It's great to expose pedophiles

2. While there may not be many convictions following these stings, at least the public is shown who these pedophiles are. Without these groups, a lot of these pedophiles might not only never be convicted, but might never be even suspected/investigated.


Why I don't like these groups:
1. While they probably bring pedophiles to public attention who would otherwise have never even have been suspected, they probably do more harm than good when it comes to getting these people convicted.

2. The manner in which they behave during their 'stings'. They claim to be on the side of professionalism and decency and be solely motivated by a desire to protect children, yet their videos (which are easily accessible to children) are FULL of vile, sexually explicit language.

3. They seem to be motivated as much by their own self image and egos as anything else. In a lot of their videos it's not enough to tell someone they have evidence that shows they were attempting to groom children and inform them that the police are on the way - they seem to absolutely revel in talking about how they are protecting kids and even asking the accused if they want to thank them for what they are doing etc.

3. They, it seems, have wrongly accused people in the past. Can you for one second imagine one of these groups wrongly accusing you, in SUCH a public fashion, of being a pedophile? That is life destroying.

4. They state when they post videos that people should not attack the family of the accused or their property, but there are countless reports of people doing just that. They then wash their hands of any responsibility for that. That does not sit right with me.

5. The video this morning/last night of them verbally abusing the BBC's Kevin Magee was just sick and really exposed the members of this particular 'hunter' gang as nothing but a gang of absolute thugs and scumbags. The journalist in question broke no laws or journalistic rules when he attempted to inteview one of these 'hunters' at his home in the morning time. The response, as seen in today's video, was that the journalist was verbally assaulted in the street later that night by a large gang of these 'hunters' who behaved like vicious animals. One could even be heard calling Magee "a pedo f**k" as they sat on the road blocking his car (along with a whole street of traffic). During the course of the confrontation, they repeatedly shouted about how they are only interested in 'protecting kids', while they simultaneously walked the streets shouting foul mouth obscenities at Magee - not much concern for the innocence of any kids in the vicinity there. They even made a claim that Magee, when he visited the man's house, was protected by men with balaclavas, even though the man's own video clearly showed the two BBC men with Magee at the house, and neither of them were wearing balaclavas.

Best post on here in a long time.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 07, 2018, 03:17:54 PM
The way they pulled the rasharkin boy out of the house and lined him up at the front. How hard do you think it will be for his solicitor to quash any possible conviction?
People they sting are under no obligation to stay put when they place them under citizens arrest. They quote “section 24a blah blah blah” of some English law that doesn’t apply here. So they are arguably guilty of false imprisonment. Then again they say they aren’t concerned about the law, they demonstrated as much last night with their behaviour with the BBC reporter
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 07, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
Was any of this confrontation with Kevin Magee shown on the news? Was it the half 6 or the half 10 news?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 07, 2018, 05:15:10 PM
Sorry but I remain suspicious of the British Broadcasting Corporation's  (whose dealings with paedophiles in their employ left a lot to be desired),motives.Why pick on one group member? Is this member typical of the average group member? Why are they trying to discredit these groups?

Let's face it if these groups were comprised of articulate,polite, University graduates they would not be effective.

As long as they act within the law they will have my support.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
Sorry but I remain suspicious of the British Broadcasting Corporation's  (whose dealings with paedophiles in their employ left a lot to be desired),motives.Why pick on one group member? Is this member typical of the average group member? Why are they trying to discredit these groups?

Let's face it if these groups were comprised of articulate,polite, University graduates they would not be effective.

As long as they act within the law they will have my support.

So going into an innocent mans place of work and accusing him of being a peadophile is within the law and it is acceptable?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 07, 2018, 06:08:29 PM
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 07, 2018, 07:05:42 PM
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

What a plank.   ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Puckoon on February 07, 2018, 07:14:57 PM
Like attracts Like Tony - that's becoming apparent.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebar on February 07, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

What a plank.   ;D

You couldn't make it up  ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 07, 2018, 07:15:57 PM
Sorry but I remain suspicious of the British Broadcasting Corporation's  (whose dealings with paedophiles in their employ left a lot to be desired),motives.Why pick on one group member?
Because he is seemingly the leader of the group most active here. That's assuming he was the only one approached for an interview. You have no idea if they only "picked on one group member" or if numerous approaches were made to various individuals.

Is this member typical of the average group member? Why are they trying to discredit these groups?
How do you know he was trying to discredit them? Perhaps he was trying to make a documentary about them to let people make their own informed minds up about them.

Let's face it if these groups were comprised of articulate, polite, University graduates they would not be effective.
Why not, if the whole point is putting the accused on facebook live and stating you have evidence against them and have called the police?

As long as they act within the law they will have my support.
Their actions last night appeared very much illegal. They verbally assaulted Kevin Magee, casued a public disturbance, blocked a road, falsely imprisoned him, one falsely accused him of being "a pedo f**k", and they forced and held one of his associates against a wall. Do you now retract your support for at least this particular gang now then?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 07, 2018, 07:21:26 PM
Sorry but I remain suspicious of the British Broadcasting Corporation's (whose dealings with paedophiles in their employ left a lot to be desired),motives.Why pick on one group member? Is this member typical of the average group member? Why are they trying to discredit these groups?

Let's face it if these groups were comprised of articulate,polite, University graduates they would not be effective.

As long as they act within the w they will have my support.
Suspicious of the BBC  yep,  what about the clergy then??
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: JimStynes on February 07, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
Your boys voice (Jamie O'Neill??) in that Kevin Magee video is annoying as f**k. What sort of accent is it?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 07, 2018, 09:08:33 PM
Your boys voice (Jamie O'Neill??) in that Kevin Magee video is annoying as f**k. What sort of accent is it?
Spent some time in England by the sounds of it. Mix of Antrim, Derry, English.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 09:38:06 PM
Your boys voice (Jamie O'Neill??) in that Kevin Magee video is annoying as f**k. What sort of accent is it?
Spent some time in England by the sounds of it. Mix of Antrim, Derry, English.

Was he not in Chelsea for a while?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 07, 2018, 09:56:27 PM
Your boys voice (Jamie O'Neill??) in that Kevin Magee video is annoying as f**k. What sort of accent is it?
Spent some time in England by the sounds of it. Mix of Antrim, Derry, English.

Was he not in Chelsea for a while?

Place or person?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: nrico2006 on February 07, 2018, 09:59:54 PM
Its the most annoying accent about, very like those annoying radio presenters Sonya Mac and your doll Yazz (Owen and Yazz).
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: trileacman on February 07, 2018, 10:14:30 PM
Its the most annoying accent about, very like those annoying radio presenters Sonya Mac and your doll Yazz (Owen and Yazz).

Those names alone send a shiver up my spine.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 10:19:39 PM
Your boys voice (Jamie O'Neill??) in that Kevin Magee video is annoying as f**k. What sort of accent is it?
Spent some time in England by the sounds of it. Mix of Antrim, Derry, English.

Was he not in Chelsea for a while?

Place or person?

Person
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 07, 2018, 10:24:01 PM
Its the most annoying accent about, very like those annoying radio presenters Sonya Mac and your doll Yazz (Owen and Yazz).

They've got completely different accent - Yazz being Scottish for one
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 07, 2018, 10:39:24 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ELuUzct3A
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 10:45:22 PM
Nolan show!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 07, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
No condemnation from the audience to date.On the contrary praise.Shows how out of touch people on this board are
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Orior on February 07, 2018, 11:07:04 PM
Ha! The ex-policeman put the front row Hunter in his place.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 11:07:55 PM
No condemnation from the audience to date.On the contrary praise.Shows how out of touch people on this board are

You must have turned it off! At least half and half you numpty lol! Two people only
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 07, 2018, 11:09:08 PM
Public opinion will win this war in favour of the hunters.If it helps to reform the legal system so much the better.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 07, 2018, 11:18:47 PM
I think it is fair to say that the supporters of these groups haven't much between their ears.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2018, 11:19:07 PM
Public opinion will win this war in favour of the hunters.If it helps to reform the legal system so much the better.

Of course it will!  Tony you are living in cuckoo land, public opinion from anyone with half a brain will have a sensible view on this.. 100 and only 3 going towards for consideration !
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on February 07, 2018, 11:24:54 PM
Public opinion will win this war in favour of the hunters.If it helps to reform the legal system so much the better.

Of course it will!  Tony you are living in cuckoo land, public opinion from anyone with half a brain will have a sensible view on this.. 100 and only 3 going towards for consideration !

Lads at this stage he doesn't even believe it himself. . . leave him be DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 07, 2018, 11:28:42 PM
Public opinion will win this war in favour of the hunters.If it helps to reform the legal system so much the better.

Of course it will!  Tony you are living in cuckoo land, public opinion from anyone with half a brain will have a sensible view on this.. 100 and only 3 going towards for consideration !

Lads at this stage he doesn't even believe it himself. . . leave him be DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!!
I would like to believe that but sometime I really really wonder
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 07, 2018, 11:33:44 PM
There was no condemnation from the audience,instead the mood was how can these groups, achieve results and the Police cannot.It's results people want not legalistic bombast or two years of investigations when there is evidence readily available that should be more than enough to convict.

I understand the guy's rant at Magee.From his perspective he is voluntarily delivering a good public service yet all of a sudden a BBC reporter turns up at his door to investigate him, and exposing where he lives etc.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 08, 2018, 12:07:49 AM
Do you ever notice the direct correlation between supporters of these groups and fleggers?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Orior on February 08, 2018, 07:49:19 AM
Do you ever notice the direct correlation between supporters of these groups and fleggers?

 No.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on February 08, 2018, 09:23:59 AM
Interesting development in one of the Glasgow group the hunters caught a Hunter
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: NAG1 on February 08, 2018, 09:26:47 AM
Do you ever notice the direct correlation between supporters of these groups and fleggers?

 No.

Yes

Caught 2 minutes of the Nolan show when this was discussed, the most salient point was made by Nolan (surprisingly) the police have given these groups a 30 point plan of what they will need to gain convictions. These groups are unable to meet these points therefore convictions are not going to occur.

So if it isnt convictions and getting these people off the streets that they are after, what could it possibly be?

Ego driven?
Misplaced sense of right and wrong? (as we can see by the convictions of the above hunter including indecency)
Or just Loyalist scum with another axe to grind (to go along with their naked racism)

It is a very tricky subject area, but I for one would rather if these groups wanted to do what they do, do it in the background, hand a file to the police and let the police then monitor and make the right decisions to have the person dealt with by the law.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on February 08, 2018, 09:51:11 AM
See the person bailed in Rasharkin a couple of days ago doesn't seem to be referenced anymore on the site he was videoed on. 

Google search still has the link to the facebook story but clicking the link returns

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Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on February 08, 2018, 10:04:48 AM
I think it is fair to say that the supporters of these groups haven't much between their ears.

I know people can get nervous when the spotlight falls on them, but listening to the arguments from the audience, both for and against, was quite painful.

The important point that I felt was made was that over the 100 suspects, whose details were passed to the PSNI, only 3 have been forwarded for consideration of a prosecution. If we were to work on the assumption that all those referred were indeed paedophiles, then the vast majority are not only getting off, but are now forewarned which is likely to lead to them taking greater measures to avoid future detection.

The video of the confrontation with Kevin Magee and the nature of the 'discussion' did not suggest that you were dealing with individuals whose primary concern was one for the law. It was really unsettling. Scary stuff. 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 08, 2018, 10:59:28 AM
Unsettling indeed.

There was a good Black Mirror episode on a similar theme.  Didn't end well, as expected.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Newbridge Exile on February 08, 2018, 01:45:36 PM
See the person bailed in Rasharkin a couple of days ago doesn't seem to be referenced anymore on the site he was videoed on. 

Google search still has the link to the facebook story but clicking the link returns

You're unable to view this content because local laws restrict our ability to show it. If you'd like more information please see Help Centre.

Noticed that myself too, his seems to be the only video I can see that has been taken down
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on February 08, 2018, 02:03:04 PM
See the person bailed in Rasharkin a couple of days ago doesn't seem to be referenced anymore on the site he was videoed on. 

Google search still has the link to the facebook story but clicking the link returns

You're unable to view this content because local laws restrict our ability to show it. If you'd like more information please see Help Centre.

Noticed that myself too, his seems to be the only video I can see that has been taken down

You sure lads? It's still on the Predator Catchers NI Facebook as far as I can see anyway. . . I'm down south at the minute unless that has something to do with it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 08, 2018, 02:50:27 PM
Interesting development in one of the Glasgow group the hunters caught a Hunter

Where did u see that pal?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 08, 2018, 03:10:10 PM
One of the local groups now accusing another group of actually being set up by a paedophile ring in order to hide their activities.  Claiming when the group was initially set up, they set up people they knew as easy targets to give themselves a bit of credibility.

You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: theskull1 on February 08, 2018, 03:28:17 PM
See the person bailed in Rasharkin a couple of days ago doesn't seem to be referenced anymore on the site he was videoed on. 

Google search still has the link to the facebook story but clicking the link returns

You're unable to view this content because local laws restrict our ability to show it. If you'd like more information please see Help Centre.

Noticed that myself too, his seems to be the only video I can see that has been taken down

You sure lads? It's still on the Predator Catchers NI Facebook as far as I can see anyway. . . I'm down south at the minute unless that has something to do with it.

Must be
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 08, 2018, 03:48:12 PM
One of the local groups now accusing another group of actually being set up by a paedophile ring in order to hide their activities.  Claiming when the group was initially set up, they set up people they knew as easy targets to give themselves a bit of credibility.

You couldn't make it up.

where did you see this at?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: The Gs Man on February 08, 2018, 03:49:52 PM
Silent Justice maybe?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: WT4E on February 08, 2018, 04:27:52 PM
No condemnation from the audience to date.On the contrary praise.Shows how out of touch people on this board are

You must have turned it off! At least half and half you numpty lol! Two people only

I think it shows up the type of audience members on the Nolan show:

Thought I recognised your one giving the cop guff with the short whiteish hair:

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/woman-who-wasted-police-time-with-false-allegations-about-jim-wells-wins-appeal-over-jail-term-35113180.html

PS I'm no Jim Wells fan but this one giving the cops stick is a bit rich when shes out there wasting their time!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on February 08, 2018, 06:14:23 PM
Interesting development in one of the Glasgow group the hunters caught a Hunter

Where did u see that pal?

It was TGA Hunters along with other groups caught him he wasn't a member of TGA but was of some other hunter group
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fionntamhnach on February 08, 2018, 06:38:55 PM
No condemnation from the audience to date.On the contrary praise.Shows how out of touch people on this board are

You must have turned it off! At least half and half you numpty lol! Two people only

And why would the studio audience of the bear baiting Nolan Live show be any more representative on this matter than the "people on this board are"?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 08, 2018, 09:54:48 PM
No condemnation from the audience to date.On the contrary praise.Shows how out of touch people on this board are

You must have turned it off! At least half and half you numpty lol! Two people only

And why would the studio audience of the bear baiting Nolan Live show be any more representative on this matter than the "people on this board are"?
It’s like a cross between the hills have eyes and the Adams family
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 08, 2018, 11:01:01 PM
Snobbery abounds on this thread.Rest assured these groups have widespread public support,the Police and state sponsored broadcasting agencies are running scared and trying to discredit them,but are fighting a losing battle.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2018, 11:14:36 PM
Snobbery abounds on this thread.Rest assured these groups have widespread public support,the Police and state sponsored broadcasting agencies are running scared and trying to discredit them,but are fighting a losing battle.

Running scared, seems they hunters have started to take over the courts and PSNI! Muppet lol
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on February 08, 2018, 11:32:14 PM
Snobbery abounds on this thread.Rest assured these groups have widespread public support,the Police and state sponsored broadcasting agencies are running scared and trying to discredit them,but are fighting a losing battle.
Plenty of support surely, the country is full of fuckheads.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Over the Bar on February 08, 2018, 11:33:04 PM
Some of these hunters are dedicated, thorough and most importantly non-vindictive.   Unfortunately a significant portion can be summed up as follows:  social rejects with too much time on their hands who are wannabe law-enforcers latching onto something they believe will elevate their self-perception of low social standing, but mostly they are simply getting a kick out of denigrating others publicly, especially anyone not from their own ‘tribe’.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fionntamhnach on February 09, 2018, 12:16:07 AM
It's always worth remembering that half of the population are below average intelligence.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 09, 2018, 07:26:43 AM
Some of these hunters are dedicated, thorough and most importantly non-vindictive.   Unfortunately a significant portion can be summed up as follows:  social rejects with too much time on their hands who are wannabe law-enforcers latching onto something they believe will elevate their self-perception of low social standing, but mostly they are simply getting a kick out of denigrating others publicly, especially anyone not from their own ‘tribe’.

That quote could also be applied to the make up of the Stormont Assembly
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on February 09, 2018, 08:53:45 AM
Some of these hunters are dedicated, thorough and most importantly non-vindictive.   Unfortunately a significant portion can be summed up as follows:  social rejects with too much time on their hands who are wannabe law-enforcers latching onto something they believe will elevate their self-perception of low social standing, but mostly they are simply getting a kick out of denigrating others publicly, especially anyone not from their own ‘tribe’.
I think vindictiveness goes with the territory. Which groups are non-vindictive?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 09, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
Sorry but I remain suspicious of the British Broadcasting Corporation's  (whose dealings with paedophiles in their employ left a lot to be desired),motives.Why pick on one group member?
Because he is seemingly the leader of the group most active here. That's assuming he was the only one approached for an interview. You have no idea if they only "picked on one group member" or if numerous approaches were made to various individuals.

Is this member typical of the average group member? Why are they trying to discredit these groups?
How do you know he was trying to discredit them? Perhaps he was trying to make a documentary about them to let people make their own informed minds up about them.

Let's face it if these groups were comprised of articulate, polite, University graduates they would not be effective.
Why not, if the whole point is putting the accused on facebook live and stating you have evidence against them and have called the police?

As long as they act within the law they will have my support.
Their actions last night appeared very much illegal. They verbally assaulted Kevin Magee, casued a public disturbance, blocked a road, falsely imprisoned him, one falsely accused him of being "a pedo f**k", and they forced and held one of his associates against a wall. Do you now retract your support for at least this particular gang now then?

You don't appear to have replied to my post above, Tony. I'd be interested at least in hearing your reply to the last point re. illegality. Is it safe to assume you no longer support the particular group involved in the Magee incident since they appear to have broken a number of laws in their confrontation of him?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 09, 2018, 12:31:24 PM
fearon is on the wind up so wouldn’t pay attention to him. These groups are spoofers, you’d really have to question people’s competency as parents if they are relying on these clowns in any capacity. The guy O’Neill has serious issues if that’s the way he behaves in public, I wonder how he disciplines his children?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2018, 12:46:39 PM
This is the bit I dont get, they are safe gaurding our children, they say, and the intentions are brilliant, but 100 bailed and only 3 for consideration by the PPS is endangering our children even more, as these people will go underground and use better tactics to endanger our children!! The same children they say they are protecting!

As for naming shaming them, once these people are arrested they are named and shamed the family can deal with their actions in private and not on a live feed which wont bring other implications to that innocent family or buisness who had no knowledge of their sons/brother/father's actions..

Another thing, they are claiming that these perverts are preying on our children, what checks and balances have you on your 14 year old (or younger) child? how many of your kids are signed up to an 18 year old dating site? They are using gay dating sites... Ask the questions, check their computers have the bare minimum checks and hopefully you'll cut out the crack pots! or talk to your kids

 
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2018, 02:39:03 PM
Jesus mr don't be changing the habit of a lifetime by talking sense!!

Bang on. Right minded people, here anyway, seem to grasp this.

Thread as usual has got carried away by grown middle aged plus man seeking attention.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2018, 02:55:37 PM
Jesus mr don't be changing the habit of a lifetime by talking sense!!

Bang on. Right minded people, here anyway, seem to grasp this.

Thread as usual has got carried away by grown middle aged plus man seeking attention.

I'm off the herion till later, normal service will resume
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
Jesus mr don't be changing the habit of a lifetime by talking sense!!

Bang on. Right minded people, here anyway, seem to grasp this.

Thread as usual has got carried away by grown middle aged plus man seeking attention.

I'm off the herion till later, normal service will resume

 ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 09, 2018, 06:05:43 PM
If you were doing great community work that depends on your anonymity,on a voluntary basis and a BBC reporter turns up at your home out of the blue exposing your identity and address would you be happy?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Therealdonald on February 09, 2018, 06:09:23 PM
I watched a few of their videos last night. It is commendable what they are doing, it's just the fact that their mannerisms and choice of language and questioning leaves a lot to be desired. It's more of  Jeremy Kyle type sting than a Police-type sting. I just wish they were more professional in their job.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2018, 06:13:23 PM
I watched a few of their videos last night. It is commendable what they are doing, it's just the fact that their mannerisms and choice of language and questioning leaves a lot to be desired. It's more of  Jeremy Kyle type sting than a Police-type sting. I just wish they were more professional in their job.

So you watched the one with Kevin Magee? Commendable ?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 09, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
How would any of you feel if you as law abiding citizens were visited at home unannounced by a BBC reporter and a battery of cameras?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 09, 2018, 06:22:22 PM
I'd love it myself.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
I'd love it myself.
It would be a burden to the licence payer for them to go all the way over there.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2018, 06:37:19 PM
How would any of you feel if you as law abiding citizens were visited at home unannounced by a BBC reporter and a battery of cameras?

Hmm, law abiding? Did he seem law abiding in that video? Id say he broke a few laws don’t you? And if you are looking to name and shame perverts why not get the BBC on board also, more exposure, more likes!

Also in his video afterwards he said he wasn’t part of a hunter group but in his rants at Magee he said he was! Very confusing, never mind his accent
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 09, 2018, 06:55:08 PM
How would any of you feel if you as law abiding citizens were visited at home unannounced by a BBC reporter and a battery of cameras?

Magee was doing his job, he is an investigative journalist.

What does O’Neill have to hide? If he was squeaky clean then he wouldnt care. Even his answers on the comments of the FB videos stink of arrogance and self importance.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 09, 2018, 07:13:01 PM
How would any of you feel if you as law abiding citizens were visited at home unannounced by a BBC reporter and a battery of cameras?
It was the hunter filming it causing a complete scene. The BBC crew didn’t record it afaik
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 09, 2018, 08:05:01 PM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2018, 08:09:58 PM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

He wanted to chat to the head of the hunter groups, get their side of the story, maximise their popularity?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 09, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Their story is all over facebook
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2018, 08:20:18 PM
Their story is all over facebook

So tell us all about those guys. Pick one group. One person from that group and tell us about him/her
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2018, 08:21:59 PM
Their story is all over facebook
He’s doing a show on it anyways, that should answer it for you. Hopefully O’Neil would explain why he called him a f**king pervert..
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 10, 2018, 07:37:47 AM
Would it not be respectful if he was doing a show,to first of all gain the consent of the person.I remember Mr O'Neill being interviewed on Spotlight not so long ago,with his identity hidden,in which he was calm,articulate and rational.Presumably this was due to the fact that he consented to this interview,and did not have his real identity and address revealed
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2018, 08:08:05 AM
Would it not be respectful if he was doing a show,to first of all gain the consent of the person.I remember Mr O'Neill being interviewed on Spotlight not so long ago,with his identity hidden,in which he was calm,articulate and rational.Presumably this was due to the fact that he consented to this interview,and did not have his real identity and address revealed

Must have been a different O’Neill as this one was a complete head the ball! And besides he’s nothing to do with the hunters so maybe Magee wanted to know why he’d given up on it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 10, 2018, 11:28:22 PM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 12, 2018, 11:16:33 PM
looks like the hunters group is littered with men of disputed reputations with some possible having loyalist connections, hardly men of law abiding reputations on a crusade, better leave the job to the police, at least they are vetted
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2018, 11:48:26 PM
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/shame-of-northern-ireland-paedophile-hunters-sins-of-the-lynch-mob-revealed-36589316.html
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 11:58:29 PM
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/shame-of-northern-ireland-paedophile-hunters-sins-of-the-lynch-mob-revealed-36589316.html
Don't be upsetting Fearon.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: GJL on February 13, 2018, 12:05:38 AM
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/shame-of-northern-ireland-paedophile-hunters-sins-of-the-lynch-mob-revealed-36589316.html
Don't be upsetting Fearon.

So they turn out to be a bunch of loyalist scumbags! Who'd have guessed it!  Tony you need to reassess your opinion and remember it takes a stronger type of man to admit when he has made an error in judgment.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 13, 2018, 12:10:05 AM
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/shame-of-northern-ireland-paedophile-hunters-sins-of-the-lynch-mob-revealed-36589316.html
Don't be upsetting Fearon.

So they turn out to be a bunch of loyalist scumbags! Who'd have guessed it!  Tony you need to reassess your opinion and remember it takes a stronger type of man to admit when he has made an error in judgment.
LOL the phrase "when hell freezes over" springs to mind.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 13, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Loyalist scumbags or not,credit where it's due. I will support anyone when they are doing the right thing or serving the community usefully.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 13, 2018, 12:37:44 AM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 13, 2018, 01:05:00 AM
Loyalist scumbags or not,credit where it's due. I will support anyone when they are doing the right thing or serving the community usefully.
Lol. Tony you are some craic  ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 13, 2018, 01:17:45 AM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 13, 2018, 01:45:34 AM
You'd love the attention
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 13, 2018, 07:13:18 AM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show
1. If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue and acted entirely lawfully, would you feel you have the right to break the law in response?
2. You clearly stated that you supported these groups "so long as they act within the law". Given that this group quite clearly broke several laws in response to them being 'unhappy' at something, is it not fair to assume that either you no longer support the group in question or else you were lying in saying your support was conditional on their law abiding behaviour?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2018, 07:43:47 AM
You'd love the attention

Jesus could you imagine lol.

Except then he'd have to actually be his real self rather than a wum.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Square Ball on February 13, 2018, 08:13:15 AM
Self-styled 'paedophile hunters' revealed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43024711

Old news really
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on February 13, 2018, 08:42:07 AM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show

Perhaps you should read their own guide on doorstepping http://www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidelines/privacy/doorstepping
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: TabClear on February 13, 2018, 09:07:01 AM
I was not sure about these groups but after hearing some snippets of Kevn Magees report on the radio and the comments of an ex senior police officer its clear this crowd are complete morons who are doing more harm than good. Foul mouth thugs who are clearly just in it for their own reasons. I would be interested to see the police records on these clowns because I have no doubt some of them would be extensive.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 09:16:26 AM
Look its a brilliant idea, and the intent of outing or at the very least making police aware of the potential to comit crimes on children by these people is good... But the methods are all wrong and none of it will really stick unless there are other things on that persons computer or the person actually has met a 14 year old, not a 35 year old woman on the internet sayings shes 14 on a site that you must be 18 to begin with!

I wonder how much support they will have now on FB, will probably lose half their support  ;)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on February 13, 2018, 09:27:07 AM
I was not sure about these groups but after hearing some snippets of Kevn Magees report on the radio and the comments of an ex senior police officer its clear this crowd are complete morons who are doing more harm than good. Foul mouth thugs who are clearly just in it for their own reasons. I would be interested to see the police records on these clowns because I have no doubt some of them would be extensive.

Has Kevin Magee's report / investigation into these groups already been broadcast or if not is there any time / date? I'd be very interested in seeing it.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 13, 2018, 09:29:00 AM
on bbc website this morn and on the news this eve I think...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on February 13, 2018, 09:48:13 AM
on bbc website this morn and on the news this eve I think...

Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2018, 12:38:00 PM
Do none of these pricks have no jobs? If u a hard working man up and away at 6-30/7am and not home to 5/6pm u wrecked when u get home; dinner; bit of tv, indoor soccer or golf occasionally; if u still that age training with football team or gym!  Who, but people with time on their hands would be up to his crap! I get the impression half these people are unemployablel! Others with criminal records but in all; most want attention seeking more than catching a person up to no good! Its a poor man Ireland version of the Tv show the wire from 15yrs bck!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 13, 2018, 01:30:06 PM
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A gang calling itself Nonce Catchers NI, run by east Belfast man Kenny Abbott, is currently being sued by a man identified as a paedophile on its Facebook page. The case was listed in the High Court last Tuesday with Abbott, who loyalist sources say is a “complete balloon”, named on the writ.

Predator Catchers NI is also the subject of legal action as is Team NI Protecting Kids.

The latter is in the process of being sued by the innocent Antrim woman whose house its members showed up outside, wrongly claiming a paedophile lived there while broadcasting it on Facebook Live.

Describes a few of these lads no doubt



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Only three of the so-called ‘water-tight’ 110 cases they have cobbled together have been forwarded to the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) for consideration.

Ten of the referrals were immediately binned because they contained no evidence whatsoever.

A further seven were returned by the PPS to the PSNI which closed them because they did not meet legal standards.



edit: full article

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Shame of Northern Ireland paedophile hunters: Sins of the lynch mob revealed

A top cop has confirmed police are investigating links between online paedophile hunter groups and loyalist paramilitaries.

Detective Chief Superintendent Paula Hillman also revealed that at least one individual involved in these vigilante gangs has been questioned by detectives about sexual assault.

The damning assessment by the head of the PSNI’s Public Protection Unit comes on the back of a Sunday Life investigation into the shadowy characters running these groups.

We have uncovered evidence that one individual, South East Antrim man Gary Harper, had more than £70,000 of criminal property seized by the Assets Recovery Agency.

Another so-called hunter George Keenan, who uses the pseudonym James O’Neill and who led the mob that tried to intimidate respected BBC investigative reporter Kevin Magee, is nothing more than a minor criminal.

While a third, who we cannot name at this stage for legal reasons, was questioned by police about a sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Despite their less than desirable backgrounds the trio all present themselves as the saviours of children across Northern Ireland.

They do this while hiding behind fake names and refusing to answer legitimate questions about their motives, methods and criminal records.

Harper, Keenan and the suspected sex attacker are all involved with some of the nine self-titled paedophile hunting groups currently operating in Northern Ireland.

The overwhelming majority of the evidence each of these mobs have presented to police so far is worthless.

Only three of the so-called ‘water-tight’ 110 cases they have cobbled together have been forwarded to the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) for consideration.

Ten of the referrals were immediately binned because they contained no evidence whatsoever.

A further seven were returned by the PPS to the PSNI which closed them because they did not meet legal standards.

DCS Hillman, who has asked online paedophile hunters to stop live-streaming confrontations with targets because it wrecks any chance of prosecution, admits there are links between paramilitaries and some of these groups.

She told Sunday Life: “We don’t see any evidence of these groups being organised by loyalist paramilitaries, but there are people in these groups with links to loyalist paramilitaries.”

Referring to the criminal backgrounds of some of the paedophile hunters, DCS Hillman, who did not name anyone, added: “We have to disclose everything to the PPS when presenting the evidence gathered by these groups.

“This includes the backgrounds of individuals within these groups and their criminal convictions.

“There have been some serious allegations made about some of these individuals, including sexual offence allegations.”

The paeodphile hunting gangs regularly complain that they have been forced into vigilantism because the PSNI is not doing their job and ignoring sexual predators.

However, this is an outright lie and a simple look at court lists throughout Northern Ireland puts pay to this myth.

In the next week alone more than 70 individuals will appear in the dock charged with offences including rape, sexual assault, grooming kids online, and having child abuse images.

PSNI sources told Sunday Life that having to deal with flawed evidence put forward by online paedophile hunters — cases that have no hope of prosecution because they insist on broadcasting stings live — means they cannot work on genuine investigations.

They also point to the monumental c**k-ups frequently made by these groups, whose members have no training in investigative techniques, evidence gathering or child protection.

One of these gangs, Team NI Protecting Kids which involves Gary Harper and sells branded merchandise on Facebook, recently surrounded the wrong house in Antrim town terrifying a single mother.

They only left the innocent woman’s property when confronted by local community workers who called the police.

Another group’s ‘investigation’ led to a law graduate being mistakenly identified as a paedophile and receiving a barrage of online abuse.

Cars have also been wrongly damaged, and last week the home of a GAA coach named as an alleged pervert was targeted by arsonists.

The UDA has also been using the Facebook pages to single out people they name as paedophiles.

Last month the terror gang assaulted two men in the Rathccole estate in Newtownabbey and smashed up a house in Tigers Bay in north Belfast after reading online allegations. The slipshod methods used by Northern Irish-based vigilantes has drawn the ire of established groups in England, who work successfully with the police and have secured dozens of prosecutions.

Stinson Hunter, who started the online paedophile hunter phenomenon in England and featured in a Channel 4 documentary, has accused Northern Ireland groups of criminality.

Criticisng their threats and seizures of phones, he tweeted: “That’s highly illegal, probably street robbery or at the very least theft. Very wrong to do that. The problem is people have their own agendas and do things for their own reasons.”

Hunter’s tweet was in response to footage broadcast last Tuesday night of a mob of paedophile hunters threatening and intimidating BBC reporter Kevin Magee, who had called to one of their homes earlier in the day asking for an interview. The baying crowd was led by loud-mouthed clown George Keenan, who bellowed at the award-winning journalist in a transatlantic accent: “You don’t come to my f*****g home, do I make myself clear. You wanna cause stress? I cause stress, this is what you call power in f*****g numbers.”

Convicted criminal Keenan, who is now facing arrest, has since closed his social media pages.

But before shutting them down the egomaniac could not resist posting two cringe-worthy video monologues on Facebook, which have since been deleted, trying to justify his actions.

Keenan’s little band of internet tough guys, whose identities Sunday Life is aware of, are also facing prosecution for a number of public order offences.

We cannot name them because of the impending legal action but can reveal they have connections to an online group styling itself Predator Catchers NI.

Among them is a Belfast bouncer described as a “plastic hardman” by other security staff in the city centre, a woman from Cookstown who is an unashamed UDA supporter, and a female loyalist from the Shore Road district of Belfast.

Not only are these online paedophile groups facing imminent criminal prosecution they are also the subject of ongoing civil litigation, as is social media giant Facebook which publishes their accusations.

A gang calling itself Nonce Catchers NI, run by east Belfast man Kenny Abbott, is currently being sued by a man identified as a paedophile on its Facebook page. The case was listed in the High Court last Tuesday with Abbott, who loyalist sources say is a “complete balloon”, named on the writ.

Predator Catchers NI is also the subject of legal action as is Team NI Protecting Kids.

The latter is in the process of being sued by the innocent Antrim woman whose house its members showed up outside, wrongly claiming a paedophile lived there while broadcasting it on Facebook Live.

Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on February 13, 2018, 01:43:31 PM
Hopefully Tony reads this
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 13, 2018, 02:20:14 PM
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

Compare and contrast this article with the village idiot's take on things.  ;D
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 13, 2018, 02:38:36 PM
"James O’Neill" w/Nolan

https://audioboom.com/posts/6671524-an-insight-into-the-mindset-of-a-paedophile-hunter-stephennolan-interviews-the-man-who-was-part-of-a-group-who-surrounded-a-bbc-reporter-investigating-paedophile-hunter-activities
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on February 13, 2018, 07:24:15 PM
If have had a sympathy and Luke warm support for these groups but your man made such a dick of himself on Nolan, Judge Judy and Executioner
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 13, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
I see the biased BBC is still well able to influence.I don't mind these guys not turning up in Armani gear or speaking with posh accents.As long as they are drawing out paedophiles they are doing good work in my opinion
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Orior on February 13, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

Compare and contrast this article with the village idiot's take on things.  ;D

Question for supporters of the paedo hunters - As far as I know, the police are saying that paedo hunters should stop. So why are they continuing?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 08:11:50 PM
In all of the videos I've seen without exception there has been:

1.Copious and convincing verifiable evidence of guilt,gathered in advance.
2.Admissions in the majority of cases
3.A sting at a pre arranged venue at a pre arranged time with the predator thinking he was going to meet a child.
4.A complete absence of physical threat or gratuitous aggressiveness from the hunters.
5.Assurance that the group would protect the guilty person until the arrival of the Police

Compare and contrast this article with the village idiot's take on things.  ;D

Question for supporters of the paedo hunters - As far as I know, the police are saying that paedo hunters should stop. So why are they continuing?

Cause Tony would have nothing to post!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 13, 2018, 08:22:49 PM
Still has the church
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: GJL on February 13, 2018, 08:36:59 PM
I see the biased BBC is still well able to influence.I don't mind these guys not turning up in Armani gear or speaking with posh accents.As long as they are drawing out paedophiles they are doing good work in my opinion

What about the houses they get wrong? What about the guy who took his own life? You support these instances as well?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on February 13, 2018, 08:53:16 PM
Just watched the BBC newsline expose, holy jesus, anybody sitting in any fence would likely have changed their minds after watching thon balloons.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 13, 2018, 09:01:56 PM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 13, 2018, 09:12:32 PM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show
1. If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue and acted entirely lawfully, would you feel you have the right to break the law in response?
2. You clearly stated that you supported these groups "so long as they act within the law". Given that this group quite clearly broke several laws in response to them being 'unhappy' at something, is it not fair to assume that either you no longer support the group in question or else you were lying in saying your support was conditional on their law abiding behaviour?

Once again... in your own time, Tony.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2018, 09:18:39 PM
Tony sees what he wants to see and then go for whataboutery tactic! Looks for topic which will set him apart from rational thinking and then WUM it

Surprised he’d not debated the rugby trial!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2018, 09:49:04 PM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

You need to try harder.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fionntamhnach on February 13, 2018, 10:08:14 PM
Quote
A gang calling itself Nonce Catchers NI, run by east Belfast man Kenny Abbott, is currently being sued by a man identified as a paedophile on its Facebook page. The case was listed in the High Court last Tuesday with Abbott, who loyalist sources say is a “complete balloon”, named on the writ.

Predator Catchers NI is also the subject of legal action as is Team NI Protecting Kids.

The latter is in the process of being sued by the innocent Antrim woman whose house its members showed up outside, wrongly claiming a paedophile lived there while broadcasting it on Facebook Live.

Describes a few of these lads no doubt
Most reasonable people could see that the above was going to be the inevitable outcome given the way these groups handled themselves. Those that most likely didn't are listed below.






* Person(s) belonging to at least one of these categories
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: red hander on February 13, 2018, 10:13:13 PM
"James O’Neill" w/Nolan

https://audioboom.com/posts/6671524-an-insight-into-the-mindset-of-a-paedophile-hunter-stephennolan-interviews-the-man-who-was-part-of-a-group-who-surrounded-a-bbc-reporter-investigating-paedophile-hunter-activities

An absolute and total w**ker... and so is the guy he interviewed. Mmmmmmmm, wonder why it was a recorded interview and not a live one? Can anybody guess?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 13, 2018, 11:23:29 PM
U man a self obessessed loser more worried about his wee following than properly bringing someone to justice@:doesnt work, no suprise there and seems to be an uneducated clown who threats people and bullies when things dont go their way!! For all his threats probably couldnt beat his way out of a paper bag!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: GJL on February 14, 2018, 10:13:05 AM
U man a self obessessed loser more worried about his wee following than properly bringing someone to justice@:doesnt work, no suprise there and seems to be an uneducated clown who threats people and bullies when things dont go their way!! For all his threats probably couldnt beat his way out of a paper bag!!

Going by the shape of him I would suspect you are correct.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 14, 2018, 10:28:28 AM
Do you ever notice the direct correlation between supporters of these groups and fleggers?

 No.

You want to reassess that given the news of the last few days?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2018, 10:33:29 AM
Mob law usually ends in tears.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 14, 2018, 10:45:06 AM
They're deleting any comments on their page now which question their motives. They could have alot of work on their hands in the days ahead...
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: themac_23 on February 14, 2018, 11:29:50 AM
They're deleting any comments on their page now which question their motives. They could have alot of work on their hands in the days ahead...

No bother to them, not like they’ve work or anything to be at
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: sensethetone on February 14, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
Some of the comments defending the hunter groups towards anyone in disagreement are well worth a read.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: lurganblue on February 14, 2018, 12:05:19 PM
Something just hasnt sat right with me about these hunter groups for a while now. After seeing that Newsline report last night i think i know what it is... they're c*nts.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2018, 12:08:25 PM
listening to the radio one.. unreal
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 14, 2018, 12:10:20 PM
https://youtu.be/8nxo0fS2VMM
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2018, 12:15:49 PM
https://youtu.be/8nxo0fS2VMM

Classic!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: gallsman on February 14, 2018, 12:20:08 PM
Got fed up reading this thread a while back as it was pretty clear that pretty much everyone condemned these groups and Fearon was only in it for the kicks he gets from his own so hilarious brand of trolling.

Saw the Kevin Magee piece and had to laugh at the state of your man George Keenan. The ludicrousness of it all was summed up in the video of him following Magee, screaming "YOU ARE NOT A PAEDOPHILE" at him.

Given their loyalist connections, I wonder how many of their stings have taken place in republican areas. Very few I imagine. I look forward to the day where one of these groups turns up at the wrong person's house and gets run off live for the world to see.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Minder on February 14, 2018, 12:45:53 PM
Got fed up reading this thread a while back as it was pretty clear that pretty much everyone condemned these groups and Fearon was only in it for the kicks he gets from his own so hilarious brand of trolling.

Saw the Kevin Magee piece and had to laugh at the state of your man George Keenan. The ludicrousness of it all was summed up in the video of him following Magee, screaming "YOU ARE NOT A PAEDOPHILE" at him.

Given their loyalist connections, I wonder how many of their stings have taken place in republican areas. Very few I imagine. I look forward to the day where one of these groups turns up at the wrong person's house and gets run off live for the world to see.

There was the fella in Dunloy that took his own life and then the recent one in Rasharkin
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: lurganblue on February 14, 2018, 12:52:02 PM
listening to the radio one.. unreal

Is the lad putting that accent on?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2018, 12:56:21 PM
Got fed up reading this thread a while back as it was pretty clear that pretty much everyone condemned these groups and Fearon was only in it for the kicks he gets from his own so hilarious brand of trolling.

Saw the Kevin Magee piece and had to laugh at the state of your man George Keenan. The ludicrousness of it all was summed up in the video of him following Magee, screaming "YOU ARE NOT A PAEDOPHILE" at him.

Given their loyalist connections, I wonder how many of their stings have taken place in republican areas. Very few I imagine. I look forward to the day where one of these groups turns up at the wrong person's house and gets run off live for the world to see.

There was the fella in Dunloy that took his own life and then the recent one in Rasharkin

Was that before people thought they were loyalist thugs?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: paddyjohn on February 14, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
Got fed up reading this thread a while back as it was pretty clear that pretty much everyone condemned these groups and Fearon was only in it for the kicks he gets from his own so hilarious brand of trolling.

Saw the Kevin Magee piece and had to laugh at the state of your man George Keenan. The ludicrousness of it all was summed up in the video of him following Magee, screaming "YOU ARE NOT A PAEDOPHILE" at him.

Given their loyalist connections, I wonder how many of their stings have taken place in republican areas. Very few I imagine. I look forward to the day where one of these groups turns up at the wrong person's house and gets run off live for the world to see.

There was the fella in Dunloy that took his own life and then the recent one in Rasharkin

Was that before people thought they were loyalist thugs?

I'd say if the people of Dunloy knew what and who they were when they went to Liam Brogans door, things could of been different. Also they went to his door at 10.15/10.30pm.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 14, 2018, 06:44:33 PM
Here you go Tony - a charge arising from these investigations

Quote
A member of a paedophile hunting group in NI is to be charged with a number of criminal offences after confronting an alleged sex offender.

The man will face charges of assault, disorderly behaviour and false imprisonment.

Other self-styled vigilantes could also face charges.

But at this stage none of 110 alleged paedophiles identified by the groups will be charged because of concerns about the evidence they provided.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Square Ball on February 14, 2018, 10:21:05 PM
Here you go Tony - a charge arising from these investigations

Quote
A member of a paedophile hunting group in NI is to be charged with a number of criminal offences after confronting an alleged sex offender.

The man will face charges of assault, disorderly behaviour and false imprisonment.

Other self-styled vigilantes could also face charges.

But at this stage none of 110 alleged paedophiles identified by the groups will be charged because of concerns about the evidence they provided.

'Paedophile hunter' to face criminal charges - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43049316
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: smelmoth on February 14, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

Would you find it objectionable if a  paedophile is outed by these guys, escapes prosecution because the hunters have prejudiced evidence and the paedophile goes to ground and pops up elsewhere and abuses there?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 14, 2018, 11:59:21 PM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

Would you find it objectionable if a  paedophile is outed by these guys, escapes prosecution because the hunters have prejudiced evidence and the paedophile goes to ground and pops up elsewhere and abuses there?

You mean after the Hunters as is customary,told the Police? Yes I would find it objectionable and would blame the useless police and rotten legal system that is unfit for purpose.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 15, 2018, 01:34:41 AM
So it's the police's fault these yahoos are messing things up.

Gotcha.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2018, 07:49:15 AM
So the way they gather evidence is correct it’s the police and legal system that’s to blame? So with your legal background and knowledge of police operations.. where is it going wrong?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: smelmoth on February 15, 2018, 09:36:38 AM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

Would you find it objectionable if a  paedophile is outed by these guys, escapes prosecution because the hunters have prejudiced evidence and the paedophile goes to ground and pops up elsewhere and abuses there?

You mean after the Hunters as is customary,told the Police? Yes I would find it objectionable and would blame the useless police and rotten legal system that is unfit for purpose.

So when someone prejudices evidence it's the police's fault for not securing a conviction. Your stupidity is limitless.

The consequence of displacing the offender so they can offend elsewhere having covered their tracks is acceptable in your world. Your inanity and failure to grasp cause and effect is limitless
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: AZOffaly on February 15, 2018, 10:46:41 AM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

Would you find it objectionable if a  paedophile is outed by these guys, escapes prosecution because the hunters have prejudiced evidence and the paedophile goes to ground and pops up elsewhere and abuses there?

You mean after the Hunters as is customary,told the Police? Yes I would find it objectionable and would blame the useless police and rotten legal system that is unfit for purpose.

So when someone prejudices evidence it's the police's fault for not securing a conviction. Your stupidity is limitless.

The consequence of displacing the offender so they can offend elsewhere having covered their tracks is acceptable in your world. Your inanity and failure to grasp cause and effect is limitless

In fairness, there is precedent for that. I wonder where Tony could have seen it?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Hardy on February 15, 2018, 10:52:27 AM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

Would you find it objectionable if a  paedophile is outed by these guys, escapes prosecution because the hunters have prejudiced evidence and the paedophile goes to ground and pops up elsewhere and abuses there?

You mean after the Hunters as is customary,told the Police? Yes I would find it objectionable and would blame the useless police and rotten legal system that is unfit for purpose.

Stupidity got you to this point. It's not going to get you back from here.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 15, 2018, 01:57:07 PM
Listening to the radio interview now. Your man is an absolute dose.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: tonto1888 on February 15, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
I have watched many videos of stings.What exactly do people find objectionable? Any I've seen the person caught is obviously guilty. They are subjected to an aggressive humiliation,but hell slap it up them.The Police are informed and invariably arrive,there is no physical threat to the person caught unless he tries to do a runner.What is so objectionable? Do you object to the cops ramming suspected drug dealers doors? Or the showing of images on Crimewatch?

Would you find it objectionable if a  paedophile is outed by these guys, escapes prosecution because the hunters have prejudiced evidence and the paedophile goes to ground and pops up elsewhere and abuses there?

You mean after the Hunters as is customary,told the Police? Yes I would find it objectionable and would blame the useless police and rotten legal system that is unfit for purpose.

So when someone prejudices evidence it's the police's fault for not securing a conviction. Your stupidity is limitless.

The consequence of displacing the offender so they can offend elsewhere having covered their tracks is acceptable in your world. Your inanity and failure to grasp cause and effect is limitless

In fairness, there is precedent for that. I wonder where Tony could have seen it?

not a laughing matter but that gave me a chuckle
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: sensethetone on February 15, 2018, 02:20:58 PM
Listening to the radio interview now. Your man is an absolute dose.

George Keenan? has his own pigeon American accent.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 15, 2018, 08:33:02 PM
So it's the police's fault these yahoos are messing things up.

Gotcha.

Yes a combination of incompetent policing and a legal system that places too many superfluous tests to gain prosecutions when it is clear to anyone watching footage of these stings that those apprehended are without a shadow of a doubt,reasonable or otherwise,guilty
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2018, 08:53:10 PM
Damn justice system trying to prevent injustices.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 15, 2018, 09:23:26 PM
Justice system should do what it says on the tin,ensure justice is meted out to the plainly guilty,not create numerous unnecessary hoops to jump through which protects the guilty
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
Justice system should do what it says on the tin,ensure justice is meted out to the plainly guilty,not create numerous unnecessary hoops to jump through which protects the guilty

Unlike Cannon law which allows all that
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: imtommygunn on February 15, 2018, 09:59:01 PM
Justice system should do what it says on the tin,ensure justice is meted out to the plainly guilty,not create numerous unnecessary hoops to jump through which protects the guilty

Yes sure if a few people watch a video and deem them guilty that'll do. Due process overrated.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 15, 2018, 10:44:10 PM
Listening to the radio interview now. Your man is an absolute dose.

George Keenan? has his own pigeon American accent.
What is it with their accents. There was another one has like an Cross between an English/Belfast accent. Hard to listen to
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: MoChara on February 16, 2018, 09:27:42 AM
Listening to the radio interview now. Your man is an absolute dose.

George Keenan? has his own pigeon American accent.
What is it with their accents. There was another one has like an Cross between an English/Belfast accent. Hard to listen to

I actually thought it sounded a bit like Nolan's accent
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: TabClear on February 16, 2018, 09:33:51 AM
Listening to the radio interview now. Your man is an absolute dose.

George Keenan? has his own pigeon American accent.
What is it with their accents. There was another one has like an Cross between an English/Belfast accent. Hard to listen to

I actually thought it sounded a bit like Nolan's accent

Clearly all fcukwits must have the same accent so
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: bennydorano on February 19, 2018, 06:29:41 PM

Arrests in 'paedophile hunter' probe - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43119276
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 19, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
Surprise surprise.Why does the establishment want to see the demise of these groups?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 19, 2018, 07:12:38 PM
Surprise surprise.Why does the establishment want to see the demise of these groups?

Because they are criminals who are impeding the real investigations that are ongoing.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: screenexile on February 19, 2018, 07:18:54 PM

Arrests in 'paedophile hunter' probe - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43119276

Good to see!!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: thebar on February 19, 2018, 07:31:40 PM
Great too see, get these head cases locked up no need for these guys on the streets, they offer nothing to society.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2018, 09:20:56 PM
THE one the other day we’re the hunters caught a hunter! But sure they are doing a great job, I wonder did the police checks they do (cause they are so professional) root these perverts out of their own groups first?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on February 19, 2018, 10:45:46 PM

Arrests in 'paedophile hunter' probe - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43119276
Fantastic news. It's a start but these groups should be getting charged with common assault and disorderly behaviour after each of their stings from what I've seen. It's a credit to this board that pretty much everyone sees these groups for the attention seeking scum they are.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2018, 10:56:26 PM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles. The set-ups to trap the pedophiles don't appear to be that complicated. If those self-publicist morons can  trap a pedophile and come close to doing it to a legal compliant standard, then why can't the police? Let me guess, they have not the resources or the will?
The police have now finally examined 15 of the 115 cases dropped onto their desk and we are told the cases are not 100% perfect.Well, stop the lights.
Now, they blame the hunters for not being able to prosecute those fiends.
I suspect the police would go out of their way to find fault in those 15 cases before being embarrassed by a bunch of self-publicist nutcases doing the work they should be doing.
The focus should be put on the police  to get up of their backsides and do the hunting on behalf of the community and quit deflecting blame onto the vigilante hunters.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2018, 11:00:34 PM
The police don’t have the resources. Thats plain to see, they don’t have the man power either otherwise they’d be on it
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Asal Mor on February 20, 2018, 12:10:10 AM
The police might be chasing real paedophiles who are chasing real children, rather than going onto 18+ dating apps and luring men(yeah they should know better), who otherwise would probably have harmed no one, into ruining their lives. It's debatable as to who's grooming who in those stings.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 20, 2018, 12:22:05 AM
The police might be chasing real paedophiles who are chasing real children, rather than going onto 18+ dating apps and luring men(yeah they should know better), who otherwise would probably have harmed no one, into ruining their lives. It's debatable as to who's grooming who in those stings.

Would love to see the chat logs for these "stings". What's the bets it's a "gotcha" method everytime? I doubt they use profile pictures of children, more likely pictures of over 18s.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Fionntamhnach on February 20, 2018, 12:29:10 AM
The peelers should have had the said arrests broadcast on Facebook live.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 20, 2018, 04:23:00 AM

Arrests in 'paedophile hunter' probe - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43119276

Excellent news.  The great majority of people will be pleased about this development.  There will be those who are unhappy with this move by the police but these will generally be confined to the lower level dregs and scummier elements of our society so not to worry.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: haranguerer on February 20, 2018, 08:47:17 AM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles. The set-ups to trap the pedophiles don't appear to be that complicated. If those self-publicist morons can  trap a pedophile and come close to doing it to a legal compliant standard, then why can't the police? Let me guess, they have not the resources or the will?


How do you know they're not? Do you actually want a fb live video as proof?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Snapchap on February 20, 2018, 01:22:33 PM
Why did a BBC reporter turn up uninvited and unannounced at a private law abiding citizen's home? No wonder the guy was upset and lost it

The BBC reporter may have tirned up uninvited amd unannounced but that is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was is against journalistic regulations. So given that he broke no rules or laws, then the abusive reaction by the group was utterly over the top and by and rational standards, broke several laws. Now given those facts, is it fair to assume you no longer support that particular group since you stated yourself that you would only support them 'so long as they acted within the law'?

In your own time there, Tony.

If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue would you be happy,unless it's a stunt on Michael Mc Intyre's show
1. If a BBC reporter and camera crew turned up at your house out of the blue and acted entirely lawfully, would you feel you have the right to break the law in response?
2. You clearly stated that you supported these groups "so long as they act within the law". Given that this group quite clearly broke several laws in response to them being 'unhappy' at something, is it not fair to assume that either you no longer support the group in question or else you were lying in saying your support was conditional on their law abiding behaviour?

Once again... in your own time, Tony.

I know I said 'in your own time' but let's not take the mickey here. Any chance of an answer or two?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2018, 08:18:21 PM
Free the Three.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 20, 2018, 08:22:22 PM
Free the Three.

 ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 20, 2018, 08:56:09 PM
False imprisonment is a big charge if that one sticks.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 09:05:37 PM
Free the Three.

Is that the three from the 115 that are up for consideration Tony?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 20, 2018, 10:24:29 PM
False imprisonment is a big charge if that one sticks.

What kind of sentence could one expect for that?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2018, 10:34:30 PM
Could Mr Keenan not bring up nuisance and harassment charges against Magee and the BBC?

As usual the Police going for soft targets while ignoring big time criminals
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 20, 2018, 10:41:25 PM
Could Mr Keenan not bring up nuisance and harassment charges against Magee and the BBC?

As usual the Police going for soft targets while ignoring big time criminals

Well I suppose they have form with those types.. sure they didn’t go after people who knew information on child rapists and allowed them to continually rape kids
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: trileacman on February 20, 2018, 10:47:27 PM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles.

How many of these are dangerous paedos though? They recently entrapped a 21 year old with special needs from Tempo in Fermanagh. Arranged some meeting and lured him there and posted the video on facebook. This lad if you knew him obviously has the mental age of a 13 year old and the family of him are absolutely distraught at the allegations and the public shaming they have endured.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 20, 2018, 11:49:38 PM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles.

How many of these are dangerous paedos though? They recently entrapped a 21 year old with special needs from Tempo in Fermanagh. Arranged some meeting and lured him there and posted the video on facebook. This lad if you knew him obviously has the mental age of a 13 year old and the family of him are absolutely distraught at the allegations and the public shaming they have endured.
Bit of a theme occurring. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve caught out a few creeps who are obviously gullible and stupid enough to think that a 14 year old actually wants to meet them; but I’ve seen a few now where they’ve targeted young men who clearly have have mild learning difficulties or suffer some form of autism. I wouldn’t class them as the most dangerous predators roaming the streets and in fact they’re probably every bit as vulnerable as the children these clowns claim to protect
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 21, 2018, 07:14:51 AM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles.

How many of these are dangerous paedos though? They recently entrapped a 21 year old with special needs from Tempo in Fermanagh. Arranged some meeting and lured him there and posted the video on facebook. This lad if you knew him obviously has the mental age of a 13 year old and the family of him are absolutely distraught at the allegations and the public shaming they have endured.
Bit of a theme occurring. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve caught out a few creeps who are obviously gullible and stupid enough to think that a 14 year old actually wants to meet them; but I’ve seen a few now where they’ve targeted young men who clearly have have mild learning difficulties or suffer some form of autism. I wouldn’t class them as the most dangerous predators roaming the streets and in fact they’re probably every bit as vulnerable as the children these clowns claim to protect

So abuse committed by those with learning needs is tolerable and its impacts on victims are less? What utter bullshit.Not so long ago a woman was raped in Peatlands Park by a young fella with learning needs.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: ONARAGGATIP on February 21, 2018, 07:58:21 AM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles.

How many of these are dangerous paedos though? They recently entrapped a 21 year old with special needs from Tempo in Fermanagh. Arranged some meeting and lured him there and posted the video on facebook. This lad if you knew him obviously has the mental age of a 13 year old and the family of him are absolutely distraught at the allegations and the public shaming they have endured.
Bit of a theme occurring. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve caught out a few creeps who are obviously gullible and stupid enough to think that a 14 year old actually wants to meet them; but I’ve seen a few now where they’ve targeted young men who clearly have have mild learning difficulties or suffer some form of autism. I wouldn’t class them as the most dangerous predators roaming the streets and in fact they’re probably every bit as vulnerable as the children these clowns claim to protect

So abuse committed by those with learning needs is tolerable and its impacts on victims are less? What utter bullshit.Not so long ago a woman was raped in Peatlands Park by a young fella with learning needs.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/12/13/news/dungannon-man-facing-rape-charges-at-peatlands-park-walks-free-after-a-jury-finds-he-did-not-commit-the-offences-1209199/

anything that suits your narrative.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: general_lee on February 21, 2018, 08:05:56 AM
The fact is the police have done feck all to intercept these pedophiles.

How many of these are dangerous paedos though? They recently entrapped a 21 year old with special needs from Tempo in Fermanagh. Arranged some meeting and lured him there and posted the video on facebook. This lad if you knew him obviously has the mental age of a 13 year old and the family of him are absolutely distraught at the allegations and the public shaming they have endured.
Bit of a theme occurring. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve caught out a few creeps who are obviously gullible and stupid enough to think that a 14 year old actually wants to meet them; but I’ve seen a few now where they’ve targeted young men who clearly have have mild learning difficulties or suffer some form of autism. I wouldn’t class them as the most dangerous predators roaming the streets and in fact they’re probably every bit as vulnerable as the children these clowns claim to protect

So abuse committed by those with learning needs is tolerable and its impacts on victims are less? What utter bullshit.Not so long ago a woman was raped in Peatlands Park by a young fella with learning needs.
No, what is utter bullshit is your creepy Loyalist heroes using 18+ dating sites pretending to be 14 year olds to people with autism and learning difficulties.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: David McKeown on February 21, 2018, 08:13:31 AM
I haven't gone through all the posts so apologies if this has been discussed but I understand that on occasion some of these hunter groups have used real kids (13/14 year olds) as bait for their stings. What effect must this have on these kids?  The sooner these groups are stopped the better.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: clarshack on February 21, 2018, 09:38:17 AM
i see the predator catchers ni page is gone. they only have themselves to blame.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Lecale2 on February 22, 2018, 03:05:24 PM
BREAKING NEWS: “Paedophile Hunter” George Keenan, 34, Dunmurray REMANDED IN CUSTODY for breaching his bail conditions within 24hrs of them being set. He sent a WhatsApp message despite ban from smartphone and social media apps. His solicitor said he was “a man of a low intelligence”.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Franko on February 22, 2018, 03:53:09 PM
BREAKING NEWS: “Paedophile Hunter” George Keenan, 34, Dunmurray REMANDED IN CUSTODY for breaching his bail conditions within 24hrs of them being set. He sent a WhatsApp message despite ban from smartphone and social media apps. His solicitor said he was “a man of a low intelligence”.

 ;D ;D

Supported by men of comparable intelligence.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: RedHand88 on February 22, 2018, 05:55:09 PM
BREAKING NEWS: “Paedophile Hunter” George Keenan, 34, Dunmurray REMANDED IN CUSTODY for breaching his bail conditions within 24hrs of them being set. He sent a WhatsApp message despite ban from smartphone and social media apps. His solicitor said he was “a man of a low intelligence”.

This is hilarious. What a defence!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 22, 2018, 07:16:07 PM
BREAKING NEWS: “Paedophile Hunter” George Keenan, 34, Dunmurray REMANDED IN CUSTODY for breaching his bail conditions within 24hrs of them being set. He sent a WhatsApp message despite ban from smartphone and social media apps. His solicitor said he was “a man of a low intelligence”.

 ;D ;D

Supported by men of comparable intelligence.

True and some not far from here  ::)
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
Did Tony put up his bail? With the income from those houses he rents out and money he’s saved from not going to Celtic games anymore that be well within his budget to support a fellow dunce!
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: T Fearon on February 22, 2018, 07:34:32 PM
Why are they Leanin on Keenan?
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: longballin on February 22, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Why are they Leanin on Keenan?

"Supported by men of similar intelligence"... so true Franko
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dash83 on February 22, 2018, 08:18:29 PM
Was Tony as vociferous in his support of the pursuit of priests? I’ve a vague memory of a thread suggesting not. Could be wrong
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 22, 2018, 08:31:22 PM
Was Tony as vociferous in his support of the pursuit of priests? I’ve a vague memory of a thread suggesting not. Could be wrong
The children and their parents the main culprits.
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Dash83 on February 22, 2018, 08:43:26 PM
I meant T Fearon by that. What do you mean by the kids and parents are the main culprits? Before I jump to the conclusion you meant the victims are to blame
Title: Re: Silent Justice/ Internet Interceptors
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2018, 08:54:29 PM
Well they allowed the priests to rape them and ensured the parents were ok about it.... according to T