Brexit.

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LCohen

Quote from: marty34 on September 02, 2019, 07:44:32 PM
What was that press conference all about - nothing new there?

This is a guess but possibly the emergency cabinet meeting didn't quite run to Dominic's plan? The big announcement had to be deferred.

balladmaker

Quote from: LCohen on September 02, 2019, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: marty34 on September 02, 2019, 07:44:32 PM
What was that press conference all about - nothing new there?

This is a guess but possibly the emergency cabinet meeting didn't quite run to Dominic's plan? The big announcement had to be deferred.

+1

Looks like they had to cobble some sort of a statement together after already having assembled the press.  I think that the knives are already being sharpened for Boris internally in the Tory ranks.  According to Wiki, 'George Canning was the shortest serving Prime Minister in British history. He served only 119 days in 1827'. Boris could possibly beat that record by a long way!

WT4E

Where does an election leave Snarlene?

If BOJO doesn't need DUP anymore wil he leave backstop in?


t_mac

Blair not convinced, and the truth of it is Corbyn hasn't a good public image, the best one can hope for is a coalition between SNP, Labour, Libs as I doubt Labour will win on their own.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49552403

pbat

Quote from: seafoid on September 03, 2019, 08:23:44 AM
Quote from: WT4E on September 02, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
Where does an election leave Snarlene?

If BOJO doesn't need DUP anymore wil he leave backstop in?

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/three-dup-mps-at-risk-in-snap-general-election-polls-suggest-38456413.html


SOUTH BELFAST 2017
DUP Emma Little Pengelly    13299
SDLP Allister Mc Donnell      11303
Allience Paula Bradshaw        7940
Sinn Fein Marin O Muilleoir    7143

NORTH BELFAST 2017

DUP Nigel Dodds                21240
Sinn Fein John Finucane      19159
Allience Sam Nelson             2475
SDLP  Martin Mc Auley          2045

EAST BELFAST 2017
DUP Gavin Robinson           23917
Allience Naomi Long           15443

Surely there has to be some agreement done to get rid of Little and Dodds the numbers are there, Allience may have a struggle to win back East Belfast as the shinners and SDLP numbers are only in the 100's.

But if agreement is not reached to get two more nationist seats in Belfast it will be a shame on Sinn Fein/SDLP.

seafoid

The Tories are not negotiating with the EU. They want no Deal.
No Deal means more austerity and huge job losses.

The UK is not in business as usual
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

screenexile

Will Sinn Fein form some pacts with Alliance/SDLP/Greens to maximise the remain vote for the upcoming election this time??

Better than that should Sinn Fein not contest it at all to make sure there is appropriate representation for Remain in Parliament and the /Tories have to overcome another 7/8/9 seats to get a majority??!!

Looks like it's all kicking off this week and a good chance that Bojo and Cummings have gone all in too soon and will now be backed into a corner.

Should be fun to watch like two eighty year olds fighting . . . entertaining but ultimately sad because we're going to be worse off for the experience!!

seafoid

There's basically a civil war in the UK between one side that wants regulatory alignment with the US and the other that wants the status quo.
If the Tories win , Derry could have chlorinated chicken and pauperisation while across the border in Donegal would have quality food standards and decent wages.
And there would have to be a hard border


" And if I could I'd build a wall around old Donegal
The north and south to keep them out, by God I'd build it tall
Casinos, chicken ranches, I'd legalize them all
We'd have our own Las Vegas, in the hills of Donegal"
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

SF and SDLP have to co operate in the 2 Belfast constituencies at the very least.
Whoever got the least votes last time to stand aside.

Also save money by not fielding in the predominantly Unionist Constituencies but advise their people to vote Alliance or Green on this occasion.
Latter 2 should co operate too.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Will Sinn Fein form some pacts with Alliance/SDLP/Greens to maximise the remain vote for the upcoming election this time??

Better than that should Sinn Fein not contest it at all to make sure there is appropriate representation for Remain in Parliament and the /Tories have to overcome another 7/8/9 seats to get a majority??!!

Looks like it's all kicking off this week and a good chance that Bojo and Cummings have gone all in too soon and will now be backed into a corner.

Should be fun to watch like two eighty year olds fighting . . . entertaining but ultimately sad because we're going to be worse off for the experience!!

Pact needed but won't happen. Alliance won't want to look too green and side with SF and SDLP. In fact I dont even think they would stand aside for Hermon not after the Euro election has given them delusions. Greens would be more open to a pact but will want something for it. The obvious answer is SDLP stand aside in NB and SF in SB but it won't happen unfortunately and we will likely be stuck with the horrible Dodds and ELP

t_mac

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on September 03, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Will Sinn Fein form some pacts with Alliance/SDLP/Greens to maximise the remain vote for the upcoming election this time??

Better than that should Sinn Fein not contest it at all to make sure there is appropriate representation for Remain in Parliament and the /Tories have to overcome another 7/8/9 seats to get a majority??!!

Looks like it's all kicking off this week and a good chance that Bojo and Cummings have gone all in too soon and will now be backed into a corner.

Should be fun to watch like two eighty year olds fighting . . . entertaining but ultimately sad because we're going to be worse off for the experience!!

Pact needed but won't happen. Alliance won't want to look too green and side with SF and SDLP. In fact I dont even think they would stand aside for Hermon not after the Euro election has given them delusions. Greens would be more open to a pact but will want something for it. The obvious answer is SDLP stand aside in NB and SF in SB but it won't happen unfortunately and we will likely be stuck with the horrible Dodds and ELP

In a nutshell, same with Liberals and that self obsessed new leader, after Euro's they think they will win big time in a General Election and will end up just splitting remain votes.

johnnycool

Quote from: t_mac on September 03, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on September 03, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Will Sinn Fein form some pacts with Alliance/SDLP/Greens to maximise the remain vote for the upcoming election this time??

Better than that should Sinn Fein not contest it at all to make sure there is appropriate representation for Remain in Parliament and the /Tories have to overcome another 7/8/9 seats to get a majority??!!

Looks like it's all kicking off this week and a good chance that Bojo and Cummings have gone all in too soon and will now be backed into a corner.

Should be fun to watch like two eighty year olds fighting . . . entertaining but ultimately sad because we're going to be worse off for the experience!!

Pact needed but won't happen. Alliance won't want to look too green and side with SF and SDLP. In fact I dont even think they would stand aside for Hermon not after the Euro election has given them delusions. Greens would be more open to a pact but will want something for it. The obvious answer is SDLP stand aside in NB and SF in SB but it won't happen unfortunately and we will likely be stuck with the horrible Dodds and ELP

In a nutshell, same with Liberals and that self obsessed new leader, after Euro's they think they will win big time in a General Election and will end up just splitting remain votes.

Is Lady Sylvia going to go again?

As much as the DUP closed a bit on her last time out, I think she will consolidate her North Down vote if she chooses to stand.

Shinners allowing the SDLP a free run at South Belfast with the SDLP doing the same in North Belfast on the face of it is a no brainer even though there'll be calls of both parties turning this election into a sectarian head count, something that never seems to be levelled at the UUP or DUP when they do the same.

trailer

I think Claire Hanna could carry SB on her own without a pact.
I don't think pacts are helpful, but given the seriousness of Brexit there is a case to be made for unity or agreed candidates not involved with any party. Rather than one party standing aside.

mouview