Things that make you go What the F**k?

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omaghjoe

Quote from: Hardy on October 21, 2018, 08:20:30 AM
The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots

seafoid

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: Hardy on October 21, 2018, 08:20:30 AM
The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots
Joe

Can you explain in a few lines what the EU or the Common Agricultural policy or the single market
has to do with grooming.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

LeoMc

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: Hardy on October 21, 2018, 08:20:30 AM
The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots
They make up 10% of such cases, not 90%. It is a still a high proportion overall based on their smaller population but 90% is Tommy Robinson level projection.

GJL

Quote from: LeoMc on October 22, 2018, 07:58:59 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: Hardy on October 21, 2018, 08:20:30 AM
The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots
They make up 10% of such cases, not 90%. It is a still a high proportion overall based on their smaller population but 90% is Tommy Robinson level projection.

What groups do the other 90% come from?

LeoMc

Quote from: GJL on October 22, 2018, 09:20:19 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 22, 2018, 07:58:59 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: Hardy on October 21, 2018, 08:20:30 AM
The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots
They make up 10% of such cases, not 90%. It is a still a high proportion overall based on their smaller population but 90% is Tommy Robinson level projection.

What groups do the other 90% come from?
the vast majority of offenders are British white male," he says, setting the number at somewhere between 80 and 90%.
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/03/nazir-afzal-there-is-no-religious-basis-for-the-abuse-in-rotherham?__twitter_impression=true

gallsman

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures).

Yeahhhhhh, you're gonna have to provide a source for that claim.

Hardy

I think he's trying to establish that Pakistani people are responsible for at least 80% of the crimes committed by Pakistani people. He's 100% correct, or, putting it another way, 80%+.

omaghjoe

Quote from: seafoid on October 22, 2018, 06:58:06 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Quote from: Hardy on October 21, 2018, 08:20:30 AM
The vast majority of the bankers who robbed the country were members of golf clubs.

I was originally of the opinion that this was opportunistic xenophobia such as this articulate gentleman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE2OzGfIDLQ

But the cases are to frequent and follow to similar of a pattern to ignore

Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures). Its a conversation that has to be had not least by members of that community themselves, which I am sure they are having. Any social worker or policeman would give it a second glance when they hear or see of girls of a certain age mixing with a man from that background.

Incredibly these gangs are probably one of the reasons for Brexit... as well as the denials and howls of racism from the guardianesque zealots
Joe

Can you explain in a few lines what the EU or the Common Agricultural policy or the single market
has to do with grooming.

Do you think the majority of the British electorate  even knows what the CAP is let alone based their vote on it

omaghjoe

This is specifically a certain type of child sex abuse namely grooming gangs. Not paedo rings and not individual perpetrators.
Of all the gangs operating in the north of England nearly all were Pakistani run. The ones in Bristol and Peterborough were Somali and Roma lead.
This is not even a debate this is fact and I am sorry if it interfere with your outlook. But trying to pull a strawman...well your only fooling yourselves

omaghjoe

Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on October 22, 2018, 04:28:32 AM
Pakistani make up <5% of the English population but Pakistani men appear to be 80%+ of the perpetrators of these crimes. (Open to correction on the figures).

Yeahhhhhh, you're gonna have to provide a source for that claim.

Anyone who wants to do the stats to get a precise numbers go ahead, as I said I'm open to correction 

But a quick skim and you will see a pattern emerging pretty quickly, I would like to believe otherwise and thought the first of these cases were isolated when they first emerged but at this point to deny there is no link to ethnicity to these grooming gangs it would be contrary to the evidence. Really shocking stuff in there BTW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal


Of course wiki isnt really a reputable source... this could all just have been stuck up by some EDL idiot so I could well have been had.

gallsman

No no no no no. That's not how it works. You made the claim that Pakistani men "appear to be the perpetrators" of these crimes 80% of the time. Either back it up or kindly f**k off.

The Iceman

Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2018, 07:36:20 PM
No no no no no. That's not how it works. You made the claim that Pakistani men "appear to be the perpetrators" of these crimes 80% of the time. Either back it up or kindly f**k off.
He might have been wrong on his exact numbers but I think he has highlighted the grooming gangs backgrounds are similar enough to deserve a second look.
I don't know why you claim to be so anti-racist but then so hostile towards anyone who raises a point you don't agree with?

There's a problem in England in certain towns (as highlighted in the above posts) where groups of muslim men are systematically grooming young girls, raping them and hooking them to class 1 drugs. The media isn't commenting on the fact that the majority of these gangs (again we are not talking about individuals committing crimes here, this was about a gang) are made up of predominantly, if not entirely, muslim men.  Some of us are asking the question why. Why can't we call them out as muslim? Why are people like you so hell bent on defending the perpetrators and not the victims? Why can't we attach their culture and their background and their ideology to the cases? What if their culture and their ideology encourages the behaviour?
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight

Tony Baloney

Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2018, 07:36:20 PM
No no no no no. That's not how it works. You made the claim that Pakistani men "appear to be the perpetrators" of these crimes 80% of the time. Either back it up or kindly f**k off.
Making an absolute c**k of yourself here. There is a time and place for contrary views but you're cornered here and you've no way out. Better luck next time.

Tony Baloney

Paddy McGuinness and Freddie Flintoff new presenter of Top Gear. Either a stroke of genius or the final nail in the coffin.

gallsman

Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 22, 2018, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 22, 2018, 07:36:20 PM
No no no no no. That's not how it works. You made the claim that Pakistani men "appear to be the perpetrators" of these crimes 80% of the time. Either back it up or kindly f**k off.
Making an absolute c**k of yourself here. There is a time and place for contrary views but you're cornered here and you've no way out. Better luck next time.

Ok. 95% of all rapes in Ireland are committed by Tony Baloney.

I've no evidence for it whatsoever, and if you really want to know the actual statistics, I'm sure you can go and look them up yourself.

See the issue here?! And I'm the one making a c**k of myself? Catch yourself on ffs. Embarrassing stuff.