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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...
Last post by JoG2 - Today at 02:28:37 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on Today at 01:22:29 PMIt's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.

Well considering 85% approx of money generated filters down to the clubs, we all win?
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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...
Last post by LeoMc - Today at 02:26:35 PM
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Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 18, 2024, 10:23:27 PMCavan team named.

No Killian Clarke, McLoughlin or McVeety in starting 15.

Would love to see Cavan win this but unfortunately I think Tyrone will win this by 8-10 points. Cavan struggle to score from open play and will struggle to keep all the Tyrone fires out.

Ie. Canavan, McCurry, McShane if he back on form.
Yeah only the 3-4 scored from open play last day out. Quite the struggle

4 points from play is not a great return haha.

3 goals from play however is very good, but the worrying thing is its not a common theme for Cavan to score goals but hopefully that's changing.

How many goals did they score in the league altogether 3 or 4?

Garavn Jones scored more from play in the Fermanagh game v Cavan that any Cavan player scored from pay in all 7 gmaes combined.

So there's definitely an issue with scoring from play for Cavan. But its championship now and trends can go out the window.
Well it's 7 scores from play in a gale force wind conditions, so it's ok considering that. Some of those goals would be chances that some would take points from, so good we've goals in us anyway.

Wouldn't be too concerned with that Fermanagh League game. We were clearly holding our water for 2 weeks after. They were playing for their lives and we had nothing to play for that day

I agree on the goals very encouraging to see themgo for the juggler instead of fisting over the bar. True on the Fermanagh game aswell but these are just observations I've made i'm not criticizing as it was a great performance the last day despite this; bit of a step up again this weekend but you don't know what your gonna get with Tyrone.

When up against clowns you should go for the juggler.
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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and...
Last post by LeoMc - Today at 02:17:02 PM
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Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2024, 11:11:48 PMIt will be interesting to see if Mattie does play at 6. He could add real solidity there potentially if he is back to himself.

Really don't see how Matty starts at 6 unless as a sweeper and someone else picks up the marking job on a Cavan forward
I struggle to see how Matty starts at all to be honest having missed so much of the league

McKiernan has nailed 6 and will surely start there, its a dummy team, expect Aidan Clarke to start corner back

My prediction is Matty doesn't start and comes in off the bench for the second half or last 20mins depending on how its going, deployment also as required, could be middle third could be FF

I wish they would bring in a rule to stop teams announcing dummy teams. Should be a rule to only allow minimum changes. e.g. 2

Or what about just naming them the hour before throw in? Only reason they are done during the week is for the programmes.

There could be a lot of men "inju
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Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 18, 2024, 11:11:48 PMIt will be interesting to see if Mattie does play at 6. He could add real solidity there potentially if he is back to himself.

Really don't see how Matty starts at 6 unless as a sweeper and someone else picks up the marking job on a Cavan forward
I struggle to see how Matty starts at all to be honest having missed so much of the league

McKiernan has nailed 6 and will surely start there, its a dummy team, expect Aidan Clarke to start corner back

My prediction is Matty doesn't start and comes in off the bench for the second half or last 20mins depending on how its going, deployment also as required, could be middle third could be FF

I wish they would bring in a rule to stop teams announcing dummy teams. Should be a rule to only allow minimum changes. e.g. 2

There could be a lot of men "injured" during the warm up.
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Quote from: Tones on Today at 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: tiempo on Today at 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: Tones on Today at 01:15:24 PMThe Preliminary Quarter Final is a balls too, no jeopardy, all about extra games, as you say probably TV rights, get beat in the first round of your Provincial Championship lose 2 matches in group stage and you could still be in a Preliminary Quarter Final , what a load of crap.

Prelim QF was conceived as a result of meaningless games in the final round of the Super 8, its to try and incentivise that final round of group games where the top 2 is already confirmed and bottom 2 is not

Nothing screams its fucked quite like Kerry playing the second tier of Hurling (Joe McDonagh) but aren't allowed to play in the Munster Championship. Long story short, 57 varieties

Worked well last year in 3 groups none of these games were meaningless!!

Kerry    5–24 – 0–11    Louth

Dublin    3–23 – 0–8    Sligo

Derry    1–19 – 1–13    Clare


Them games you mention still weren't dead rubbers as score difference was massive due to Cork, Mayo and Kerry finishing on 4 points.

It turned out Kildare beat Roscommon so score difference didnt matter there but that was a shock result.

And if Clare beat Derry then Monaghan or Donegal could topped the other group.

There was also serious drama with John Heslin with a free to knock Tyrone out of the championship and a late rally from Armagh resigning Galway to the Prelim Quarter finals.

Was great entertainment that last week especially with all the games at the one time.
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General discussion / Re: Name your three favourite ...
Last post by Tony Baloney - Today at 02:15:15 PM
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Quote from: weareros on Today at 01:30:51 PMBack in the teenage discos in the 80's in the old cold rural dancehalls, when Wonderful Tonight came on, it signaled the start of the slow set. It had the added bonus that if you couldn't find a girl to dance with (or were refused), it was the one slow song that you could at least still play air guitar to until the good stuff started up again.

Peaches and Diesel
His guitar solo on While My Guitar Gently Weeps

And if you covet the singers girl on above song, sure might as well write a great song about her too.

Layla

might explain future refusals  ;)  ;D
;D  Air guitar was acceptable in the 80s!
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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...
Last post by Tones - Today at 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: tiempo on Today at 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: Tones on Today at 01:15:24 PMThe Preliminary Quarter Final is a balls too, no jeopardy, all about extra games, as you say probably TV rights, get beat in the first round of your Provincial Championship lose 2 matches in group stage and you could still be in a Preliminary Quarter Final , what a load of crap.

Prelim QF was conceived as a result of meaningless games in the final round of the Super 8, its to try and incentivise that final round of group games where the top 2 is already confirmed and bottom 2 is not

Nothing screams its fucked quite like Kerry playing the second tier of Hurling (Joe McDonagh) but aren't allowed to play in the Munster Championship. Long story short, 57 varieties

Worked well last year in 3 groups none of these games were meaningless!!

Kerry    5–24 – 0–11    Louth

Dublin    3–23 – 0–8    Sligo

Derry    1–19 – 1–13    Clare
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General discussion / Re: Name your three favourite ...
Last post by lurganblue - Today at 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: weareros on Today at 01:30:51 PMBack in the teenage discos in the 80's in the old cold rural dancehalls, when Wonderful Tonight came on, it signaled the start of the slow set. It had the added bonus that if you couldn't find a girl to dance with (or were refused), it was the one slow song that you could at least still play air guitar to until the good stuff started up again.

Peaches and Diesel
His guitar solo on While My Guitar Gently Weeps

And if you covet the singers girl on above song, sure might as well write a great song about her too.

Layla

might explain future refusals  ;)  ;D
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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...
Last post by tiempo - Today at 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: Tones on Today at 01:15:24 PMThe Preliminary Quarter Final is a balls too, no jeopardy, all about extra games, as you say probably TV rights, get beat in the first round of your Provincial Championship lose 2 matches in group stage and you could still be in a Preliminary Quarter Final , what a load of crap.

Prelim QF was conceived as a result of meaningless games in the final round of the Super 8, its to try and incentivise that final round of group games where the top 2 is already confirmed and bottom 2 is not

Nothing screams its fucked quite like Kerry playing the second tier of Hurling (Joe McDonagh) but aren't allowed to play in the Munster Championship. Long story short, 57 varieties
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...
Last post by Dreadnought - Today at 01:37:46 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on Today at 01:22:29 PMIt's odd isn't it?

Every single last person involved in sport knows that protracted knockout competitions are a steaming pile of dung until the element of jeopardy arrives.

And yet all around Ireland, all around the world, we keep introducing and extending these formats.

Other sports can at least use professionalism and a need for paying spectators as their excuse.

We cannot.
It's very odd alright. the more it comes to it, the more I'd go back to Championship as straight knockout and expand the League or such to cover games. But there's no doubt that more matches does not equal better Championship. Less is more, and too many games is too many missable games so people start to stay away. If every game meant you had to win, we'd be heading somewhere. Do your provincials and seeding from League or such, but 2 tiers, 16 teams, let them go at it. People would go mental for it
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Hurling Discussion / Re: AI Hurling Championship 20...
Last post by Capt Pat - Today at 01:33:14 PM
Clare will have Tony Kelly on the bench for the Limerick game. Without Kelly starting and a question mark as to whether he plays at all, Limerick will be favourites. The league means nothing.

Shane O'Donnell is also on the bench for Clare.