Brexit.

[vallankumous]

Nope JRM/Gove/Johnson and the Brexiteers are not happy staying in the single market or the customs union so who the f**k knows at this stage?!

There were no bigger Brexiteers than the DUP.
Now they just want to be the same, as do everyone else.

The narrative has changed, more and more will take this opt out.
There will still be clowns in to deep to get out. Might as well milk it while they can.

[vallankumous]

You are really giving them too much credit here!

When we look back later we will see it was what everyone wanted and so will see it as part of a process.
Regardless of how we see it in our bubble I've no doubt everyone was looking for an escape and it's easy when that happens.
Like the guy asking his friends to hold him back before a fight.

[seafoid]

Someone has to tell muintir Shasana that brexit is going to cost them. Nobody in the Tory party wants to. This week reality hit them. 
NI is tied to a unit that is loss making.  Very interesting. 

[OgraAnDun]

Nope JRM/Gove/Johnson and the Brexiteers are not happy staying in the single market or the customs union so who the f**k knows at this stage?!

There were no bigger Brexiteers than the DUP.
Now they just want to be the same, as do everyone else.

The narrative has changed, more and more will take this opt out.
There will still be clowns in to deep to get out. Might as well milk it while they can.

The DUP backed Brexit as a chance to wrap themselves in a flag, believing that it would never be passed but that the chance to appear ultra-British would be great for their electoral success here whilst having absolutely no consequences. Low and behold the English and Welsh are even more stupid than the DUP thought. In their press conference the morning of the referendum result, Arlene looked like the ghost of Carson himself was standing infront of her waving a starry plough, they collectively sh*t themselves. Now they've realised it's happening they think they can make hay while the sun shines and try and reduce cross-border cooperation.

[Tubberman]

Varadkar today - trying to make it clear that the DUP aren't (or shouldn't be anyway) the only show in town

He added: "I think we should listen to all parties in Northern Ireland and not accept this idea that seems to be gaining prevalence in some parts of London and maybe other places as well that there is only one party in Northern Ireland and that party speaks for everyone.

"I don't accept that premise, which seems to be accepted by too many people at the moment."

[vallankumous]

The DUP backed Brexit as a chance to wrap themselves in a flag, believing that it would never be passed but that the chance to appear ultra-British would be great for their electoral success here whilst having absolutely no consequences. Low and behold the English and Welsh are even more stupid than the DUP thought. In their press conference the morning of the referendum result, Arlene looked like the ghost of Carson himself was standing infront of her waving a starry plough, they collectively sh*t themselves. Now they've realised it's happening they think they can make hay while the sun shines and try and reduce cross-border cooperation.

As did many others, this is why they are all going to take this soft Brexit eventually.

[vallankumous]

Varadkar today - trying to make it clear that the DUP aren't (or shouldn't be anyway) the only show in town

He added: "I think we should listen to all parties in Northern Ireland and not accept this idea that seems to be gaining prevalence in some parts of London and maybe other places as well that there is only one party in Northern Ireland and that party speaks for everyone.

"I don't accept that premise, which seems to be accepted by too many people at the moment."

Good for Varadkar, although i don't know the context of the wider point.

He's coped onto the fact that so far he's been caught up in local politics and is back playing that game. Sadly this is an EU/UK issue we are caught up in.

[haranguerer]

Leo finding out how it is to have to work with the DUP 


"Is it any small wonder that the people of Northern Ireland don't have a first or deputy first minister?

"Is it any small wonder they don't have an Executive, because this is the attitude of Sinn Féin, constantly hectoring, smart alec remarks, lack of temperance, lack of respect for other people, inability to listen to them, and inability to listen to compromise?" he asked.

"It should be of no wonder whatsoever that the people of Northern Ireland have no voice, because this is the style of politics favoured by Sinn Féin, to shout people down who don't share their views," he added.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0927/908013-mary-lou-mcdonald-leo-varadkar/

[screenexile]

Hammond has said that the Cabinet have not actually discussed their vision for Brexit!!!

Apparently May has been putting it off because this is where the real fallouts are going to happen and the pressure is on to get it sorted as soon as. . . we're in for a rocky ride yet folks not least our Theresa because there is no way possible the Cabinet will all agree on it!!

Laura Kuenssberg on twitter has done some good work on Brexit but she's a Tory.

[north_antrim_hound]

Leo finding out how it is to have to work with the DUP 


"Is it any small wonder that the people of Northern Ireland don't have a first or deputy first minister?

"Is it any small wonder they don't have an Executive, because this is the attitude of Sinn Féin, constantly hectoring, smart alec remarks, lack of temperance, lack of respect for other people, inability to listen to them, and inability to listen to compromise?" he asked.

"It should be of no wonder whatsoever that the people of Northern Ireland have no voice, because this is the style of politics favoured by Sinn Féin, to shout people down who don't share their views," he added.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0927/908013-mary-lou-mcdonald-leo-varadkar/

Like many before him

SF might not have existed only for the DUP-unionism and their regime  over the years
I think when any balanced politician gets to know the lay of the land in the north there is a softening of moral condemnation and slight empathy steeps in

[Rossfan]

Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

[Syferus]

Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

He knows how to deal with intolerant feckers. An openly gay Irish nationalist Taoiseach out-manueuring them and tying the north to the south irreversibly is the stuff of nightmares for the DUP.

[Denn Forever]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-42249854

Impact assessments of Brexit on the UK 'don't exist' said David Davis, UK economy, Brexit Secretary.

It's like accommitee chaired by Fr. Dougal.

[seafoid]

The DUP made the wrong call. Blaming LV is pathetic.

[Therealdonald]

Back in 1998 Liz O'Donnell,  Junior Minister, Dublin 4 type PD, was involved in the talks then. Beforehand she was all blather about being nice to Unionists etc.
She changed her tune after a few dealings with them (and that was the UUP).
Good to see Leo learning a bit about the North Eastern parts of his own Country though.

He knows how to deal with intolerant feckers. An openly gay Irish nationalist Taoiseach out-manueuring them and tying the north to the south irreversibly is the stuff of nightmares for the DUP.

The post gym photo in the salmon Under Armour Vest would have absolutely horrified Arlene and Nigel.