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Does anyone know what was worked on the last 4 weeks? Seems very little

Holy christ we cannot defend. What have they been looking at in training? Do they see Canavan having to beat 3 men by himself and think they'll eventually win a match?

Was criminal the lack of support he was getting. Need to change now otherwise we will waste his talent.

After 4 weeks of that was shocking. We were too busy tracking the runners rather than tackling the man on the ball,extremely slow going forward, no set game plan.

Hate to say it but dooher out and new blood in.

Mckernan has been impressive but he is prone to the odd silly moment as well such as taking that shot on v donegal while in the corner.  Cut those out and we've a top class performer

Yeah he does sometimes take too much out of the ball. I seen Dooher tear a few strips off him at various times in that Donegal match.

Dooher tore strips of plenty of men in the Donegal match. One player tore strips off Dooher which didn't appear to go down too well

Dont be a tease tell us lol

Ref giving derry some amount of leeway

You'll need to elaborate.. I've watched 15 minutes there and not seeing what you are

There was 2 times the derry player both arms around a galway lad and pulled him round, both given as free outs to derry. 2 trips during advantages with no cards given.

What?? Where?? Were we watching the same game?!

Ah come on now. They got some handy free outs along.

In fairness Harte did a super job with Louth.

Considering Louths performance against Dublin last week.. ?

They were div 4 when he took over. Would they have done as well against Dublin or even got to a Leinster final without the work Harte put in?

No is the short answer. Tyrone heads trying to belittle what Harte has done in his management career especially with Tyrone is mildly amusing and now bitter that he's managing Derry.

What has mickey done since 2008? Hasn't beaten mayo,kerry or dublin in 16 years of championship football. I said years ago he should have left tyrone. These are facts.

Ref giving derry some amount of leeway

You'll need to elaborate.. I've watched 15 minutes there and not seeing what you are

There was 2 times the derry player both arms around a galway lad and pulled him round, both given as free outs to derry. 2 trips during advantages with no cards given.

Ill discipline from Derry killing them.

They are getting away with it. There should have been 2 black cards for derry but ref playing advantage. Thought the ref could still give a card after playing advantage ?

Only a yellow I thought? Not black or red? Maybe I'm wrong

Not sure to be honest. Would have thought if they could give a card it shouldn't matter on the colour

Ref giving derry some amount of leeway

In fairness Harte did a super job with Louth.

He did a good job but it was zero risk. They were  a division 4 team,  couldn't get any lower. Harte can team a team and make them better but isn't the man to take them to the top

Ill discipline from Derry killing them.

They are getting away with it. There should have been 2 black cards for derry but ref playing advantage. Thought the ref could still give a card after playing advantage ?

When you think of all the hype about Harte and Derry after their league win.. very poor up front and predictable packed defence.

Was telling any of my county men this who were getting ahead of themselves during the league, at the end of the day needed Penalties to beat Armagh, favourable quarter final draws against Cork and Clare only reason they made the last 2 semi finals and in the league this year only impressive win was against Kerry who were minus the Clifford's. Hartes decision making needs questioned

Not Mickey Harte who is stamping on ankles .....

Hartes training regime that has seen our whole half back line injured when they hadn't a game for a month

Mickey lived off a great tyrone side. Anyone who days mickey is a great tactical manager needs their head examined. Look at the last number of years with tyrone. Unreal that derry think mickey is the missing link after winning his last AI 16 years ago

Team mates should be taking lumps out of players who get needlessly sent off like that.

What a dirty trampish thing to do

[the inference of the cold, cash hungry GAA denying many the right to see our games, in their pursuit of money.]

I think the issue was that the subject matter has the potential to be quite emotive - the conflict between needing to raise revenue and at the same time trying to ensure that the product is available to as large an audience as possible.

I thought Cavanagh's approach played on that emotion - the inference of the cold, cash hungry GAA denying many the right to see our games, in their pursuit of money.

It could not go unchallenged and the response was an extremely powerful put down.

This is absolutely the crux of it and what he was implying.

While making a buck out of it himself, does he not see the hypocrisy in his own position.

Any anyone from Tyrone raising the issue of brown envelopes has an absolute cheek with the number of their clubs even down the divisions engaging in it. As well as the number of Tyrone coaches all over the country happily taking these payments.

Burns was 100% right to slap this

I think the issue was that the subject matter has the potential to be quite emotive - the conflict between needing to raise revenue and at the same time trying to ensure that the product is available to as large an audience as possible.

I thought Cavanagh's approach played on that emotion - the inference of the cold, cash hungry GAA denying many the right to see our games, in their pursuit of money.

It could not go unchallenged and the response was an extremely powerful put down.

This is absolutely the crux of it and what he was implying.

While making a buck out of it himself, does he not see the hypocrisy in his own position.

Any anyone from Tyrone raising the issue of brown envelopes has an absolute cheek with the number of their clubs even down the divisions engaging in it. As well as the number of Tyrone coaches all over the country happily taking these payments.

Burns was 100% right to slap this down.

down.

So no one can raise the issue of envelopes because their own county is at it? Bit of a stupid argument really. I can raise it and because my own county does it doesn't make it right.

I could raise its rich that Burns sets out stopping payments as one of his objectives considering armagh are playing kierarn a fortune for achieving nothing.

Bought time gaa addressed the issue and set a maximum limit. However this is a different discussion.