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Title: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Sundaygame on July 26, 2022, 08:28:26 PM
Looking back over the Minor championships who would you say is the most distinguished player in minor football ?

Taking into consideration winning medals or making to minor finals.

Have a few players in mind but would like a general consensus.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Silver hill on July 26, 2022, 10:50:07 PM
Dermot McNicholl. Played minor for 5 years.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: From the Bunker on July 26, 2022, 11:00:58 PM
For the week that's in it - you can see where this is going.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 26, 2022, 11:23:46 PM
Brian "Beano" McDonald. 3 Leinster minor medals 1996 to 1998. 3 All-Ireland finals 1996 to 1998, winning the first 2 out of the 3.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Sundaygame on July 26, 2022, 11:55:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 26, 2022, 11:00:58 PM
For the week that's in it - you can see where this is going.

It's hard not to too, but looking back there's been a few who are worth a mention too.
Pity some didn't bring it through to Senior
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Sundaygame on July 26, 2022, 11:57:54 PM
Quote from: Heshs Umpire on July 26, 2022, 11:23:46 PM
Brian "Beano" McDonald. 3 Leinster minor medals 1996 to 1998. 3 All-Ireland finals 1996 to 1998, winning the first 2 out of the 3.

Does he have the most or can you think of anyone with more ?
Some of the recent Kerry panel stay on the minor panel long enough to collect more ?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Gael85 on July 27, 2022, 12:01:30 AM
Quote from: Sundaygame on July 26, 2022, 11:57:54 PM
Quote from: Heshs Umpire on July 26, 2022, 11:23:46 PM
Brian "Beano" McDonald. 3 Leinster minor medals 1996 to 1998. 3 All-Ireland finals 1996 to 1998, winning the first 2 out of the 3.

Does he have the most or can you think of anyone with more ?
Some of the recent Kerry panel stay on the minor panel long enough to collect more ?

None of the kerry minor winning teams 2014-18 had 3 year minors. Various players across the teams with 2 AI medals.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Gael85 on July 27, 2022, 12:09:52 AM
Quote from: Sundaygame on July 26, 2022, 08:28:26 PM
Looking back over the Minor championships who would you say is the most distinguished player in minor football ?

Taking into consideration winning medals or making to minor finals.

Have a few players in mind but would like a general consensus.

Adding in dual.  Cormac Costello and Eric Lowndes won Leinster minor football & hurling 2011 &12 . Both won football AI minor in 2012 and runner in football in 2011 and runner up in minor hurling finals in.2011&12. Between football and hurling they played 5 minors finals(2012 hurling final went to replay) in the 2 years.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 08:35:22 AM
QuoteI had half forgotten this . In Clifford's 12 minor appearances, over 2016 and 2017, he scored 10-68, of which 10-50 came from play.

I read that in twitter yesterday. 4-4 in an AI final - not many better than that.

The best minor display I ever saw was a boy from Greenlough playing with Derry one year - I think it was the year Paddy Bradley was minor. I've never seen fielding like it. It was Garrett somebody? I think O'Neill.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Truth hurts on July 27, 2022, 08:50:59 AM
Colm McAlarney and Benny Coulter both played minor and senior footballer in the same day for Down such was their talents.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Estimator on July 27, 2022, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 26, 2022, 10:50:07 PM
Dermot McNicholl. Played minor for 5 years.

He played in five consecutive MacRory Cup finals (1980–1984), winning four of them. He was captain for the last two. (Only one of two men to do that, Greg Blaney's father, Sean, was the other one) He was only in third year when playing on his first MacRory team. In 1980 and 1984 he was runner-up in the Hogan Cup to Carmelite College, Moate and St. Jarlath's College, Tuam respectively.

He won 3 Ulster Minor Football Championships ('80, '81, '83), played in the All-Ireland final each of the three times - winning in '83, as captain.

He won Ulster U-21 in '83, but lost the AI U21 after a replay.

As an aside, though he wasn't still a minor (bad birthday), he won an all star (still youngest ever), played senior inter county and represented Ireland in the International Rules, while still at school.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: tiempo on July 27, 2022, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: Estimator on July 27, 2022, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 26, 2022, 10:50:07 PM
Dermot McNicholl. Played minor for 5 years.

He played in five consecutive MacRory Cup finals (1980–1984), winning four of them. He was captain for the last two. (Only one of two men to do that, Greg Blaney's father, Sean, was the other one) He was only in third year when playing on his first MacRory team. In 1980 and 1984 he was runner-up in the Hogan Cup to Carmelite College, Moate and St. Jarlath's College, Tuam respectively.

He won 3 Ulster Minor Football Championships ('80, '81, '83), played in the All-Ireland final each of the three times - winning in '83, as captain.

He won Ulster U-21 in '83, but lost the AI U21 after a replay.

As an aside, though he wasn't still a minor (bad birthday), he won an all star (still youngest ever), played senior inter county and represented Ireland in the International Rules, while still at school.

Thats unreal
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2022, 11:22:31 AM
McNicholl,  close the thread.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: rrhf on July 27, 2022, 11:34:31 AM
Agree close the thread now!
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 27, 2022, 12:22:22 PM
Yeah this one could be a short enough discussion 😃

Runner up after McNicholl?!
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 27, 2022, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 27, 2022, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 26, 2022, 10:50:07 PM
Dermot McNicholl. Played minor for 5 years.

He played in five consecutive MacRory Cup finals (1980–1984), winning four of them. He was captain for the last two. (Only one of two men to do that, Greg Blaney's father, Sean, was the other one) He was only in third year when playing on his first MacRory team. In 1980 and 1984 he was runner-up in the Hogan Cup to Carmelite College, Moate and St. Jarlath's College, Tuam respectively.

He won 3 Ulster Minor Football Championships ('80, '81, '83), played in the All-Ireland final each of the three times - winning in '83, as captain.

He won Ulster U-21 in '83, but lost the AI U21 after a replay.

As an aside, though he wasn't still a minor (bad birthday), he won an all star (still youngest ever), played senior inter county and represented Ireland in the International Rules, while still at school.

He was (pre-)equalled as the youngest All-Star by another Derry man, ironically enough, Gerry Mc Elhinney.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 27, 2022, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 26, 2022, 10:50:07 PM
Dermot McNicholl. Played minor for 5 years.

for Derry for 5 years?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: rosnarun on July 27, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
this is one are stats dont tell the whole truth  if derry had to play a 14? at minor it probably says more about th dery setup than mcNicholl.
another way of judging it is players who played senior on the same day like Benny coulter or paddy McBrearty and indeed Wille joe padden( and a few more)

the best minor player i have seen was Kyle coney Tyrone. looked a dead cert to be a superstar but it just didnt really happen for him
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 03:53:22 PM
I am not sure. Johnny McBride played at 14 too I think but also Des Mackin for Armagh and I think they got to a minor final that year?

There are some boys who can just be a massive size at 14.

I would say Paddy McKeever for Armagh probably played at similar age. They just were good enough at that age.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Mike Tyson on July 27, 2022, 04:02:21 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 27, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
this is one are stats dont tell the whole truth  if derry had to play a 14? at minor it probably says more about th dery setup than mcNicholl.
another way of judging it is players who played senior on the same day like Benny coulter or paddy McBrearty and indeed Wille joe padden( and a few more)

the best minor player i have seen was Kyle coney Tyrone. looked a dead cert to be a superstar but it just didnt really happen for him

It probably says more about their senior setup than those players...

edit: Just reading that in his first year with Derry minors when he was 14, they won the Ulster championship & reached the all ireland final. Says a lot about the Derry setup alright.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Keyser soze on July 27, 2022, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 27, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
this is one are stats dont tell the whole truth  if derry had to play a 14? at minor it probably says more about th dery setup than mcNicholl.
another way of judging it is players who played senior on the same day like Benny coulter or paddy McBrearty and indeed Wille joe padden( and a few more)

the best minor player i have seen was Kyle coney Tyrone. looked a dead cert to be a superstar but it just didnt really happen for him

Derry got to 3 AI minor finals 80,81 and 83 winning the latter with DMcN as captain so I would say they had a fairly good setup at that time and for a 14 year old to be part of that also says a whole lot about how good he was.

Or maybe playing for Ireland at 19 and getting an allstar at the same age says more about the Ireland and and Allstar setups than it does about McNicholl also. 
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: laoislad on July 27, 2022, 04:21:31 PM
Beano McDonald.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 04:43:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 27, 2022, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 27, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
this is one are stats dont tell the whole truth  if derry had to play a 14? at minor it probably says more about th dery setup than mcNicholl.
another way of judging it is players who played senior on the same day like Benny coulter or paddy McBrearty and indeed Wille joe padden( and a few more)

the best minor player i have seen was Kyle coney Tyrone. looked a dead cert to be a superstar but it just didnt really happen for him

Derry got to 3 AI minor finals 80,81 and 83 winning the latter with DMcN as captain so I would say they had a fairly good setup at that time and for a 14 year old to be part of that also says a whole lot about how good he was.

Or maybe playing for Ireland at 19 and getting an allstar at the same age says more about the Ireland and and Allstar setups than it does about McNicholl also.

I get the 3 years, but 5 years is surely wrong. With him missing minors in his last year at school in the North that would put him at 13 when he was called in because he could be 17 or just turned 18 when he captained the team. 5 years at macrory would only be 4 years at minor too. He'd be playing minor in 2nd year if that's right. He must of been a serious monster in 3rd year to play Macrory in a winning team. Easy to write off playing young in a bad team.

James McCartan played in 3 out of 4 macrory finals I think (1988 went to a 2nd replay), won 1 and a hogan and got to 2 all ireland finals at minor winning one. I think he was only 18 or 19 on the international rules too.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 04:52:58 PM
Tbh I have always thought a recurring theme of the players who made minor early was that their senior careers didn't last as long or definitely they dropped off a good bit earlier in their career.

McCartan was phenomenal at 19 ish but I would say at 28 or 29 wasn't as good. Paddy McKeever would have dropped off a bit early too.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: bigarsedkeeper on July 27, 2022, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 04:52:58 PM
Tbh I have always thought a recurring theme of the players who made minor early was that their senior careers didn't last as long or definitely they dropped off a good bit earlier in their career.

McCartan was phenomenal at 19 ish but I would say at 28 or 29 wasn't as good. Paddy McKeever would have dropped off a bit early too.

He got battered playing club football too. Diarmuid Marsden played senior as a minor too. In the hogan win in 1993 he was just class.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Franko on July 27, 2022, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 27, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
this is one are stats dont tell the whole truth  if derry had to play a 14? at minor it probably says more about th dery setup than mcNicholl.
another way of judging it is players who played senior on the same day like Benny coulter or paddy McBrearty and indeed Wille joe padden( and a few more)

the best minor player i have seen was Kyle coney Tyrone. looked a dead cert to be a superstar but it just didnt really happen for him

It really isnt  ::)

They won ulster and reached the AIF

Read before you type
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Derry Optimist on July 27, 2022, 05:30:33 PM
It is true to say that Dermot McNicholl has one of the most impressive careers at underage level in the history of Gaelic football.He was born in November 1965 and thus it is accurate to say that he was a 14 year old when he played for Derry minors in the All - Ireland minor final of 1980. He played FOUR YEARS AT MINOR LEVEL, 1980-1983 inclusively.In the latter year he captained Derry  to the All-Ireland Minor title.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: pbat on July 27, 2022, 05:54:29 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 27, 2022, 04:52:58 PM
Tbh I have always thought a recurring theme of the players who made minor early was that their senior careers didn't last as long or definitely they dropped off a good bit earlier in their career.

McCartan was phenomenal at 19 ish but I would say at 28 or 29 wasn't as good. Paddy McKeever would have dropped off a bit early too.

The story goes when Wee James toured with Ireland he roomed with Jack O Shea, one of the reporters asked him what it was like to share with a legend. Wee James replied" Jesus you'd need to ask Jacko".
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: ONeill on July 27, 2022, 06:24:27 PM
Clifford by far the best minor I've seen. Coney was dominant too. There was a lad Peter Sullivan or OSullivan for Meath in 92 I think who really stood out.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: JoG2 on July 27, 2022, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: Franko on July 27, 2022, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 27, 2022, 03:50:59 PM
this is one are stats dont tell the whole truth  if derry had to play a 14? at minor it probably says more about th dery setup than mcNicholl.
another way of judging it is players who played senior on the same day like Benny coulter or paddy McBrearty and indeed Wille joe padden( and a few more)

the best minor player i have seen was Kyle coney Tyrone. looked a dead cert to be a superstar but it just didnt really happen for him

It really isnt  ::)

They won ulster and reached the AIF

Read before you type
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No way! Just start typing to blazes, better craic

The McNicholl stats are mind blowing. There's footage on YouTube, or there used to be, possibly from UTV, of McNicholl training as a youngin, incredible strong from a young age
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: nrico2006 on July 27, 2022, 07:16:48 PM
So did McNicholl play minor for Derry for 4 seasons or 5 years?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 27, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 27, 2022, 07:16:48 PM
So did McNicholl play minor for Derry for 4 seasons or 5 years?

Four seasons - 80 to 83
Three AI finals, winning one.

As mentioned above, the bad birthday, so missed out on a fifth year. by about six weeks.

Was playing for Derry minors when he was 14 (end of his third year in St Pat's)
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Silver hill on July 27, 2022, 07:59:12 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 27, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 27, 2022, 07:16:48 PM
So did McNicholl play minor for Derry for 4 seasons or 5 years?

Four seasons - 80 to 83
Three AI finals, winning one.

As mentioned above, the bad birthday, so missed out on a fifth year.
Was playing for Derry minors when he was 14 (end of his third year in St Pat's)

A McRory winner that year in 3rd year as a corner forward. Will never be repeated.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: rrhf on July 27, 2022, 08:31:21 PM
Without looking like I am just trying to discourage debate, can we all agree to close this thread as it is a waste of everyone's time, and time is money. Move along quickly.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Silver hill on July 27, 2022, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 27, 2022, 08:31:21 PM
Without looking like I am just trying to discourage debate, can we all agree to close this thread as it is a waste of everyone's time, and time is money. Move along quickly.

Probably right, you know best and are obviously way smarter than everyone else. Pack up the tent lads, the man has spoken.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Nanderson on July 28, 2022, 06:30:49 AM
For me Martin Clarke was a brilliant underage player. Posted ridiculous scores in underage club/school games. Managed to bring a very small unknown school to within a kick of a ball of 2 macrory titles. Played in an all ireland u21 final whilst still minor and in lower 6th in school. Although going to the AFL helped him physically would have been interesting to see what he would have become had he went through the colleges football levels
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: smort on July 28, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year

Is this the father of the current mackin sibling stars?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: pbat on July 28, 2022, 10:11:51 AM
Quote from: smort on July 28, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year

No,  not related.

Is this the father of the current mackin sibling stars?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: nrico2006 on July 28, 2022, 11:49:24 AM
Mal Mackin relation?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: rosnarun on July 28, 2022, 11:56:21 AM
there was a reddington lad for Galway a few years back was brilliant  as a minor . dont know if he ever played senior.
there was an interesting article in the Program for the minor final about top scorers in Previous finals from 2000 about half of the made it to any degree and the rest i had not heard of . ill try and find it.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 28, 2022, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.

John concannon
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Estimator on July 28, 2022, 01:29:34 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 28, 2022, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.

John concannon

Yeah, that's him. Himself and John Divilly are both part of the Galway backroom team.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: the onion bag on July 28, 2022, 02:05:06 PM
Damien O'Hagan was no slouch at minor level either. Won 3 Ulster titles in 4 years (1975-78), qualifying for 1 All Ireland Final and this despite being unavailable for selection in his 3rd year, the only year Tyrone didn't win Ulster.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Gael85 on July 28, 2022, 03:23:20 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 28, 2022, 01:29:34 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 28, 2022, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.

John concannon

Yeah, that's him. Himself and John Divilly are both part of the Galway backroom team.

Did Concannon ever play league for Galway? He was a class minor. I remember him in 94.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Gael85 on July 28, 2022, 03:26:24 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 28, 2022, 11:56:21 AM
there was a reddington lad for Galway a few years back was brilliant  as a minor . dont know if he ever played senior.
there was an interesting article in the Program for the minor final about top scorers in Previous finals from 2000 about half of the made it to any degree and the rest i had not heard of . ill try and find it.

Damien Reddington. He was on Galway minor team in 07 that beat Derry in minor final. He got a late goal to win game. Don't think ever played senior.  Was on Galway junior team for a couple years. Paul Conroy only player from that Galway minor team to play in senior final last week.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: rrhf on July 28, 2022, 03:32:32 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on July 27, 2022, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 27, 2022, 08:31:21 PM
Without looking like I am just trying to discourage debate, can we all agree to close this thread as it is a waste of everyone's time, and time is money. Move along quickly.

Probably right, you know best and are obviously way smarter than everyone else. Pack up the tent lads, the man has spoken.
;)
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: fearbrags on July 28, 2022, 06:11:52 PM
Anthony Cunningham made his debut on the inter-county scene at the age of fifteen when he first linked up with the Galway minor team. He  captained All-Ireland-winning on his last year after  losing  2 AI  finals
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 07:43:21 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on July 28, 2022, 03:23:20 PM
Quote from: Estimator on July 28, 2022, 01:29:34 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on July 28, 2022, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 28, 2022, 12:00:08 PM
Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.

John concannon

Yeah, that's him. Himself and John Divilly are both part of the Galway backroom team.

Did Concannpn ever play league for Galway? He was a class minor. I remember him in 94.

I just saw a program from a 94 game where that st jarlaths team were playing. Donnelan, Joyce brothers, Meehan brothers, concannon and John divilly. Some line up.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 28, 2022, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 28, 2022, 11:49:24 AM
Mal Mackin relation?

Nope. His da was MF for the Armagh seniors by times back in the early 80's, Des senior. Big hoor as a child. His a cousin of mine through our grannies. Was some footballer,  a real man child. Still in good shape too though he prefers selling cupcakes in Spain!!!
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: blanketattack on July 29, 2022, 10:51:23 AM
Best I've seen were Tadhg Kennelly, Darren O'Sullivan and David Clifford.
Honourable mention to Charlie Nelligan who after winning the minor All-Ireland in 1975, was on the bench for the senior final. 2 All-Irelands in the space of a couple of hours, not bad going. He also won the u21 All-Ireland that year for a unique treble.

I'm guessing Brendan Reidy has another unique treble in winning 3 All-Ireland minor medals.

14 Kerry players completed a minor and senior double this year. Again surely a record?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: fearsiuil on August 02, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Newbridge Exile on August 02, 2022, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on August 02, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Yep its the same Des
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Gael85 on August 02, 2022, 01:39:58 PM
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Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.

John concannon

Yeah, that's him. Himself and John Divilly are both part of the Galway backroom team.

Did Concannpn ever play league for Galway? He was a class minor. I remember him in 94.

I just saw a program from a 94 game where that st jarlaths team were playing. Donnelan, Joyce brothers, Meehan brothers, concannon and John divilly. Some line up.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2022/07/23/st-jarlaths-long-reach-still-guiding-the-spirit-of-galway-football/
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: shawshank on August 03, 2022, 09:33:56 AM
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Was there not a Galway boy who was on the same team as Donnelan and Joyce at underage who was supposedly better at the time? (I think? Donnelan and Joyce same age?). It was a st jarlaths team.

John concannon

Yeah, that's him. Himself and John Divilly are both part of the Galway backroom team.

Did Concannpn ever play league for Galway? He was a class minor. I remember him in 94.

I just saw a program from a 94 game where that st jarlaths team were playing. Donnelan, Joyce brothers, Meehan brothers, concannon and John divilly. Some line up.

see that team play, they were outstanding, they beat a top quality Maghera team in the Hogan final.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: bennydorano on August 03, 2022, 12:29:28 PM
I think Ronan Clarke in Armagh has 5 in a row county club minor titles including one Ulster club minor, think the county minor teams in his era were average enough but he was YPOTY in 2002 as an 18 year old, so not too shabby.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2022, 01:05:17 PM
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Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Yep its the same Des

Yep, Na Fianna had him and Geezer and also Geezers brother in the squad which is sometimes not known. They were a League of Nations that year!
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 03, 2022, 02:33:31 PM
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Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Yep its the same Des

Yep, Na Fianna had him and Geezer and also Geezers brother in the squad which is sometimes not known. They were a League of Nations that year!

Couple of big Galway/Connacht men round midfield also from memory?
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2022, 03:43:05 PM
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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2022, 01:05:17 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on August 02, 2022, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on August 02, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Yep its the same Des

Yep, Na Fianna had him and Geezer and also Geezers brother in the squad which is sometimes not known. They were a League of Nations that year!

Couple of big Galway/Connacht men round midfield also from memory?

Think you're right. Watched it there recently whilst I was hunting on YouTube for some stuff....always nice to reminisce!
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 03, 2022, 04:06:22 PM
Deffo from out weesht if i recall, had a mate lived with them for a while. Lived like monks from what he said, even back then. Maybe the mcgeeney effect lol
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: Gael85 on August 03, 2022, 08:30:04 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 03, 2022, 02:33:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2022, 01:05:17 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on August 02, 2022, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on August 02, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Yep its the same Des

Yep, Na Fianna had him and Geezer and also Geezers brother in the squad which is sometimes not known. They were a League of Nations that year!

Couple of big Galway/Connacht men round midfield also from memory?

Paul Durcan and Nigel Clancy from Sligo both played with Na Fianna. Micheal Colleran-Galway, Kevin O'Neill-Mayo, Enda Ledwith-Longford and Enda & Justin McNulty transferred to club in later years.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: imtommygunn on August 03, 2022, 09:42:06 PM
Neal (or Neil) farren was some minor too.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: worple on August 03, 2022, 10:00:01 PM
Mattie McDonagh and Dermot Earley were great.
Also Seamus Clynch Meath 1957
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: fearsiuil on August 03, 2022, 10:47:14 PM
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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2022, 01:05:17 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on August 02, 2022, 01:25:14 PM
Quote from: fearsiuil on August 02, 2022, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2022, 08:02:52 AM

Des Mackin (Cullyhanna) played four years as a minor for Armagh.

1990 - played centre back
1991 - played full forward and scored a hattrick in the the first round Vs Down
1992 - played full forward on the team that won Ulster and lost the All Ireland final to a last minute Meath goal
1993 - played full forward and played for the seniors the same year
Same Des Mackin that played for Na Fianna in Dublin?
Yep its the same Des

Yep, Na Fianna had him and Geezer and also Geezers brother in the squad which is sometimes not known. They were a League of Nations that year!

Couple of big Galway/Connacht men round midfield also from memory?
Seán Forde from Kiltimagh, Co. Mayo was McGeeney's midfield partner. Defo not the living like a monk type!

Best minor I saw was Pearse Hanley, had it all as a player.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: gallsman on August 04, 2022, 01:46:44 PM
Des Mackin now selling Cava and Cupcakes in Barcelona! A load of the older lads said they spent years trying to get him involved in the club out here but with no success.

Mark Lynch was an incredible underage and schools player in both football and hurling.

Played against Marty Clarke once in the Paul McGirr U16/U17 semi-final. We'd won preliminary round and QF pretty well and thought we were decent. An Riocht absolutely obliterated us and Clarke nearly scored a header.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: thebuzz on August 04, 2022, 07:02:21 PM
I forgot about Mark Lynch. He was some minor alright.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2022, 11:03:46 PM
Lynch and Clarke stood out. Yer lad Doyle too from Down a few years before that.

I liked that Down minor side from 05. Colgan, Fitzpatrick, Clarke and McComiskey.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: gallsman on August 08, 2022, 08:52:46 AM
Colgan was a big loss to Down. Feels like he and McKernan should have been the spine of the senior team for ten years or so. There was a Brannigan on that team too that I think might have been a 3 year minor as well.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2022, 01:12:44 PM
That's right, and there was a Joe Ireland who was decent on the Kilkeel side.
Title: Re: Best / distinguished Minor Footballers of all time
Post by: gallsman on August 08, 2022, 04:52:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 08, 2022, 01:12:44 PM
That's right, and there was a Joe Ireland who was decent on the Kilkeel side.

Aye, Ireland, Colgan and Clarke were all on the Kilkeel team that won the McLarnon in 04 and could/should have won the MacCrory in 05. Think they lost by a point either after extra time or in a replay. Ireland was too old for the county minor team that year though.

Think they lost the following year by a point as well