Connacht SFC 2020

[ballinaman]

Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....

nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Sean Cavanagh got the full nine years because of Joe Brolly's emotional reaction- nothing more or less. IIRC, no intercounty player came out to say he was critical of what SC had done.
IMO, that's perfectly understandable.
Players in Cavanagh'as or McLoughlin's position will react instinctively if they see the game slipping away from them. Unlike spectators they can't sit back on their arses and worry about what armchair warriors are thinking.

Yeah, they'll all do it, no matter which county it is, but is that the way it should be?

If someone is clean through and gets taken out, it should be a penalty in addition to a straight red (and all the extras that brings). The punishment should fit the crime instead of the current cop out. This "taking one for the team" bullshit might end.

Surely not a penalty if the offence is outside the box though ?
Happy enough to see McLaughlin scythe Kelly down personally , I remember Meehan scoring a goal into that end in Connacht 2009 final to level things up and had 2 of our lads had chance to take him down and went the honourable route instead .

[J70]

Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....

nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Sean Cavanagh got the full nine years because of Joe Brolly's emotional reaction- nothing more or less. IIRC, no intercounty player came out to say he was critical of what SC had done.
IMO, that's perfectly understandable.
Players in Cavanagh'as or McLoughlin's position will react instinctively if they see the game slipping away from them. Unlike spectators they can't sit back on their arses and worry about what armchair warriors are thinking.

Yeah, they'll all do it, no matter which county it is, but is that the way it should be?

If someone is clean through and gets taken out, it should be a penalty in addition to a straight red (and all the extras that brings). The punishment should fit the crime instead of the current cop out. This "taking one for the team" bullshit might end.

Surely not a penalty if the offence is outside the box though ?
Happy enough to see McLaughlin scythe Kelly down personally , I remember Meehan scoring a goal into that end in Connacht 2009 final to level things up and had 2 of our lads had chance to take him down and went the honourable route instead .

Why not?

It might remove the urgency to just hack the player out of it just outside the box, instead of actually trying to close him off and get a tackle in.

[Rossfan]

How would you word the rule?

[larryin89]

Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....

nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Sean Cavanagh got the full nine years because of Joe Brolly's emotional reaction- nothing more or less. IIRC, no intercounty player came out to say he was critical of what SC had done.
IMO, that's perfectly understandable.
Players in Cavanagh'as or McLoughlin's position will react instinctively if they see the game slipping away from them. Unlike spectators they can't sit back on their arses and worry about what armchair warriors are thinking.

Yeah, they'll all do it, no matter which county it is, but is that the way it should be?

If someone is clean through and gets taken out, it should be a penalty in addition to a straight red (and all the extras that brings). The punishment should fit the crime instead of the current cop out. This "taking one for the team" bullshit might end.

Surely not a penalty if the offence is outside the box though ?
Happy enough to see McLaughlin scythe Kelly down personally , I remember Meehan scoring a goal into that end in Connacht 2009 final to level things up and had 2 of our lads had chance to take him down and went the honourable route instead .

Peadar Gardiner had the final say though 

[Lar Naparka]

How would you word the rule?

With great difficulty! 

[J70]

No idea how you'd word it, especially with the ludicrous lengths counties go to with the legal bullshit.

I'm sure they could look to soccer and their wording for taking someone out when through on goal.

All I know is that the current "solution" offers no incentive whatsoever to play the game in an honest and sporting fashion.

A team should be embarrassed to have to win in that manner. But we all just accept it because we'd all do it under the same circumstances. The Irish way I guess.

[galwayman]

What was Comer like pre covid Galway lads ? That ankle injury really messed up 2019 for him . Miles off the pace yesterday as expected , 3 weeks post significant hamstring injury.

I would say certainly not back to anywhere near his best. He was okay in the early league games without standing out really.
Even when club championship was back up and running, he wasn't great for Annaghdown in the club championship.
He played a good chunk of games as he plays hurling for them also.

[GalwayBayBoy]

What was Comer like pre covid Galway lads ? That ankle injury really messed up 2019 for him . Miles off the pace yesterday as expected , 3 weeks post significant hamstring injury.

He hasn't really had a run free from injury in probably 2 years now. The ankle injury was 2 years ago this Christmas. Was misdiagnosed and lingered for a year. Played some league football during the spring and was working his way back and got injured during the club championship I think. Wasn't due to play against Mayo in the league but they started him and he did his hamstring after 3 minutes. A pale shadow of himself at the moment but obviously a major weapon if they can get him fully fit and training regularly again as his ball work has really suffered with little football done.

[Armagh18]

Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....

nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Cavanagh was dead right too and Brolly a tube for thinking he wouldnt have done the same in thst situation. Sure you'd be raging if they didn't do it.

[J70]

Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....

nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Cavanagh was dead right too and Brolly a tube for thinking he wouldnt have done the same in thst situation. Sure you'd be raging if they didn't do it.

That may all be true. So what?

That the rules indulge and basically encourage this cynical and unsporting behaviour and attitude is a sad indictment of our sport.

Its a pathetic way to win a game and it needs to be stamped out. Leaving aside the personal stuff aimed at Cavanagh, Brolly was correct in raising it. It should be raised some more.

[galwayman]

What was Comer like pre covid Galway lads ? That ankle injury really messed up 2019 for him . Miles off the pace yesterday as expected , 3 weeks post significant hamstring injury.

He hasn't really had a run free from injury in probably 2 years now. The ankle injury was 2 years ago this Christmas. Was misdiagnosed and lingered for a year. Played some league football during the spring and was working his way back and got injured during the club championship I think. Wasn't due to play against Mayo in the league but they started him and he did his hamstring after 3 minutes. A pale shadow of himself at the moment but obviously a major weapon if they can get him fully fit and training regularly again as his ball work has really suffered with little football done.

Also, his body shape means he needs to be training. He can't get away with a smaller training load like some others guys could.
McDaid is the same. He missed almost the entire club season - only played their last relegation match.
I imagine that has had a part to play in his stuttering form.

[Angelo]

Will RTE focus on that bit of outright cynicism from Mayo....hmm.....

nice boys win nothing.

Absolutley....however Sean Cavanagh endured a terrible time over his drag down, when prevening a goal...manhood questioned, analysed to death on RTE etc, tons of media coverage

Just wondering if Mayo will get the same treatment...or if it's all ok as it's not a Tyrone player

Cavanagh was dead right too and Brolly a tube for thinking he wouldnt have done the same in thst situation. Sure you'd be raging if they didn't do it.

That may all be true. So what?

That the rules indulge and basically encourage this cynical and unsporting behaviour and attitude is a sad indictment of our sport.

Its a pathetic way to win a game and it needs to be stamped out. Leaving aside the personal stuff aimed at Cavanagh, Brolly was correct in raising it. It should be raised some more.

Cynicism is always there, it just takes different forms throughout the years. Meath players used to jump on the opposition players heads until they outlawed that.

It's up to the rule makers to put proper deterrents in place. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Players are going to do whatever it takes.

The black card will act as a deterrent right now until the closing stages of a game when the punishment is not sufficient enough.

Bringing a professional foul offence into it like association football is probably the best approach but that requires an awful lot of discretion from referees and I'd have absolutely no confidence in the competence of GAA referees to put such major gamechanging decisions in their control.

[Blowitupref]

Mayo have reached all ireland semi final every year James Horan in charge.

Surprisingly some still underrate Horan. I always wonder where would Mayo have gone and where would they be now if he didn't take over in 2011 and return after the Newbridge or no where match.

[Maroon Manc]

What was Comer like pre covid Galway lads ? That ankle injury really messed up 2019 for him . Miles off the pace yesterday as expected , 3 weeks post significant hamstring injury.

He hasn't really had a run free from injury in probably 2 years now. The ankle injury was 2 years ago this Christmas. Was misdiagnosed and lingered for a year. Played some league football during the spring and was working his way back and got injured during the club championship I think. Wasn't due to play against Mayo in the league but they started him and he did his hamstring after 3 minutes. A pale shadow of himself at the moment but obviously a major weapon if they can get him fully fit and training regularly again as his ball work has really suffered with little football done.

Also, his body shape means he needs to be training. He can't get away with a smaller training load like some others guys could.
McDaid is the same. He missed almost the entire club season - only played their last relegation match.
I imagine that has had a part to play in his stuttering form.

For Comer to be at his best next summer he really needs to stay injury free for the next 6 months, between club and county McDaid probably hasn't played more than 20 games in the last 3 years. He needs an injury free run with a good run of games to start looking like the player he was before he went to Australia.

On a positive note Power should start all the league games and Galway can hopefully make proper inroads on kickouts.

[galwayman]

What was Comer like pre covid Galway lads ? That ankle injury really messed up 2019 for him . Miles off the pace yesterday as expected , 3 weeks post significant hamstring injury.

He hasn't really had a run free from injury in probably 2 years now. The ankle injury was 2 years ago this Christmas. Was misdiagnosed and lingered for a year. Played some league football during the spring and was working his way back and got injured during the club championship I think. Wasn't due to play against Mayo in the league but they started him and he did his hamstring after 3 minutes. A pale shadow of himself at the moment but obviously a major weapon if they can get him fully fit and training regularly again as his ball work has really suffered with little football done.

Also, his body shape means he needs to be training. He can't get away with a smaller training load like some others guys could.
McDaid is the same. He missed almost the entire club season - only played their last relegation match.
I imagine that has had a part to play in his stuttering form.

For Comer to be at his best next summer he really needs to stay injury free for the next 6 months, between club and county McDaid probably hasn't played more than 20 games in the last 3 years. He needs an injury free run with a good run of games to start looking like the player he was before he went to Australia.

On a positive note Power should start all the league games and Galway can hopefully make proper inroads on kickouts.

Agreed. I'm probably being unfair to McDaid. He was effectively injured for the whole summer. Only just played his clubs final game which was a relegation play off. If he can get an injury free run hopefully he gets his mojo back. Ditto with Damo as you say.