Didn't see a thread for this so I said I'd get the ball rolling.
I know it's far too early to discuss winners and relegation fodder but it seems highly likely now it will be:
Camross & R/E in semi.
Rosenalis vs Abbeyleix QF
C/Bcolla vs Borris QF
Harps vs CTown Rel
Looks that way so far. Ctown hit by alot of injuries and could in trouble with such a young team. Rdowney to win it out.
Quote from: TheGiantSquid on July 31, 2023, 03:43:56 PM
Didn't see a thread for this so I said I'd get the ball rolling.
There was a bit of chat in the Laois Senior Hurlers 2023 thread - but far better for it to have its own thread.
Borris slipping out of the 'Big 4', big time.
With Podge Delaney back can Harps pull off a surprise win this weekend against Ballacolla?
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2023, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: TheGiantSquid on July 31, 2023, 03:43:56 PM
Didn't see a thread for this so I said I'd get the ball rolling.
There was a bit of chat in the Laois Senior Hurlers 2023 thread - but far better for it to have its own thread.
Borris slipping out of the 'Big 4', big time.
Borris produced that run of minors from 09 to 13 or 14 which prompted the amalgamation in the first place, unfortunately since they came together at adult level they have the ball slip big time underage and it's now starting to catch up with them, they have grossly underachieved and that's why they are now drifting away from the group with Camross Rathdowney/Errill and Clough/Ballacolla
Change can happen very quickly and usually teams change every 10 years or so but generally in Laois there is always 3 or 4 above the rest. Castletown won a title in 06 I think and haven't been in a final since, Portlaoise were in 3 straight from 09 to 11, two years later they were relegated and been bopping up and down since
Looking at the next few years looking at it from underage you would imagine The Harps will break into the contenders group along with Abbeyleix because these are the two that have consistent success, at least one of them have been in minor finals since 2016 except for 2017, and they are the two front runners this year again
I can see Rathdowney dropping out for a time, although they seem to maximise their players ex John Purcell, Shane Dollard
Castletown have a lot of very good underage teams coming through but that don't mean success at senior level. Harps had outstanding juvenile teams in the 80s winning minor and u21s but never made the break through at senior.
The Harps were absolutely diabolical for the last 40mins today. Countless countless errors, dropped balls, bad choices and aimless handpassing out from the back. The trapdoor looms large on the banks of the Erkina I feel.
Poor games all weekend again,
Harps & Ballacolla prob the most entertainment even tho result was sorted early
Rathdowney Errill moving well but this is the norm for them at these stages, bigger tests to come,
Camross done what they had to do today, Abbeyleix very spirited, worked very hard, just probably lacking the real quality forward to hurt teams
Mossy Keyes an absolute joy to watch
Borris Kilcotton the biggest story of the weekend, atrocious performance, gutless & spineless against a poor Castletown team missing some of their best players.
This crew of players have choked on so many occasions,
Their underage set up is probably one of the best in the county with a lot of work being done, but this guarantees no success, especially now with the gap from 17 to adult hurling,
The Harps, huge juvenile success, no adult success,
Rathdowney Errill and Camross show the joys and successes of maturing later, without much success, leads to adult success, BK won everything on the way up easily, but it takes more to win and win consistently at adult than talent alone.
Character, commitment, consistency ..
At the moment it's RE favs, CB second, Camross third imo,
BK to just about survive and get by The Harps, maybe ..
Quote from: Ogie on August 06, 2023, 10:17:33 PM
Borris Kilcotton the biggest story of the weekend, atrocious performance, gutless & spineless against a poor Castletown team missing some of their best players.
This crew of players have choked on so many occasions,
Their underage set up is probably one of the best in the county with a lot of work being done, but this guarantees no success, especially now with the gap from 17 to adult hurling,
Really? They're "B" at u17 and u15. Not exactly what you'd expect from a strong senior club...
Mad post in parts there Ogie.
They might be putting a lot of work in at underage but so is everyone else. Most of their teams at underage very low on quality.
Long, long road ahead.
Hard to credit how poor they have been in last two games.
It's like they downed tools once Castletown got a few scores in second half.
This isn't choking. They never looked liked winning.
Successive managements who have decent track records have failed to handle this group.
Have the senior/star players dictated too much over the years?
Are there elements of politics at play to keep the merger on the rails?
Is there any threat to it? The last thing Borris, Kilcotton or Laois need is to split up.
Abbeyleix impressive enough against Camross. Should have too much for Castletown.
The two games on Saturday sound like they were par for the course.
Next round:
Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill
Camross
Abbeyleix
There may be no game closer than 7 or 8 points.
That would leave quarter finals
Clough Ballacolla v Castletown
Abbeyleix v Rosenallis
Semi Finals*
Camross v Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill v Abbeyleix
Relegation Final
The Harps v Borris Kilcotton
*Presuming repeat fixtures are avoided?
Anyone who thinks borris/kilcotton are strong underage don't no alot about there juvenile set up. I taught were good today Savage work rate and they down a few top players they could give Aleix enough of it in there last game. Rdowney look strong as do camross Cbolla still very dangerous and that win at the weekend will have them back on track. Borris/kcotton will struggle to stay up all is not good in that club at the moment.
I taught castletowns work rate was Savage today..
Yes in fairness they did work hard. And it is an upward step mentally as much as anything. Missing a few too. I just think BK's poor form is the bigger story.
Ye agree borris/kcotton were poor castletown back played very well as a unit. I think borris /kilcotton could struggle to stay up.
Agreed on the poor form,
It looks like a case of too much too early for that team of players, won all underage and unable to figure out winning / seeing out / turniing up for big days in 2013, 19,20 and letting 21 slip has finally broken them mentally with the losses of Joe Campion and Patrick Whelan also.
Dont think theres politics at play or any fear of a break up, too far down the road for that
Camross should see them off easily, I do think they'll have enough to see off The Harps
Camross seemed to have reinvented themselves this year, RE with a decent second team supporting top team and CB not gone away yet with Dunphy to come back on board
Predictions -
Camross Semis on one side Rathdowney Errill on other,
CB V Castletown one quarter
Abbeyliex v Rosenallis the other
Camross v Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill v Rosenallis again
Rathdowney Errill v Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill
Another weekend of coming out of OMP disappointed with the showings.
Harps and B/K both struggling big time. Relegations take a life of their own and this should go to the wire. Pauric Dunne is home this week which is a welcome boost to the Harps. Any possible returnees for B/K?
On the other hand - Ballacolla look to be slowly finding their groove and looked deadly at times and Rathdowney with Mark Kavanagh getting his way back to match fitness look to be motoring well also.
Without writing off Camross, this would be a cracker of a final unlike their group game 2 weeks ago.
Very little interest across the county in this weekends proceedings.
Sad state of affairs.
You could see Camross doing a right number on Borris Kilcotton.
Could get very very bad unless something has changed drastically over the past 10 days or so.
That would be a bad note to be going into a relegation play off in, with almost no time to do anything about it. I don't think BK could be in a worse position to be honest.
Camross will take satisfaction in driving this one home.
The Harps could go ok against Rathdowney Errill. It'll be a lot closer than CB v Rosenallis.
That one could hit 20 points.
Hard to call Abbeyleix v Castletown.
Unusually, I agree with Laois Today! Abbeyleix have a little bit more going from them. More fluid, more mobile and more capable of hitting a good score.
They could stretch it out to 7 or 8 points.
I can see Ctown being very close if not beating Aleix after a good win the last day and also have a few lads back that were out. Ctown very young alot of good hurlers and pace in there team. Other games you have to go for Camross Rdowney Errill and Cbolla
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 18, 2023, 08:59:13 PM
Very little interest across the county in this weekends proceedings.
Sad state of affairs.
You could see Camross doing a right number on Borris Kilcotton.
Could get very very bad unless something has changed drastically over the past 10 days or so.
That would be a bad note to be going into a relegation play off in, with almost no time to do anything about it. I don't think BK could be in a worse position to be honest.
Camross will take satisfaction in driving this one home.
The Harps could go ok against Rathdowney Errill. It'll be a lot closer than CB v Rosenallis.
That one could hit 20 points.
Hard to call Abbeyleix v Castletown.
Unusually, I agree with Laois Today! Abbeyleix have a little bit more going from them. More fluid, more mobile and more capable of hitting a good score.
They could stretch it out to 7 or 8 points.
Fairly correct so far!
Well, you can't get them all right!!
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 20, 2023, 07:23:15 PM
Well, you can't get them all right!!
Still and all, Borris and The Harps in relegation in both senior and intermediate. Not great times for both clubs. You'd probably fancy The Harps to go down in both, but would the B/K amalgamation survive a drop from senior? Would either club be any use on their own?
Speaking of the intermediate, bit of a surprise to see Trumera beat Colt/ Shanahoe. Word was that Trumera's management walked - but maybe that only spurred them on! They fear nobody, and now they're safe from relegation. Mind you, they hardly have the quality to win the intermediate.
Slieve Bloom in big trouble in the premier intermediate.
Big performance from Borris /kcotton today good for them going into a relagaton final. Camross already in Sfinal poor showing today did they no bother I taught camross would win handy. Aleix won handy in the end but castletown could of being 10 up at htime hit shocking wides in that first half.
Camross looked poor. Unusual.
No game for 5 weeks now.
Will need to plan carefully, but they have been on this ride before.
Borris Kilcotton stood up in fairness.
Goes to show that things are never as good or as bad as you might think. Don't overreact.
Abbeyleix & Rosenallis should be a right good game. Great first year back for Abbeyleix. They'll build on this.
They should shade the quarter final too.
I still think The Harps will have too much for Borris Kilcotton. Borris lack of strength in depth is shocking.
I hadn't heard that Trumera lost their management?
Big win for them.
Traditionally those 3 clubs would be ferocious rivals. Serious achievement for Trumera to beat the other two combined!
Any update on who is the new senior hurling county backroom team or selectors?
Relagaton final tonight hard to call who will go down. Hard to believe Borris/kcotton are in it after being in a few finals the last few years. Harps have and have had the best juvenile teams in the county the last few years and heading into there third relagaton final tonight something not right there.. Who ever goes down will face probably plaois or Bkill in that grade next year so it won't be that easy to go straight back up.
Quote from: Laois man on August 30, 2023, 10:49:03 AM
Relagaton final tonight hard to call who will go down. Hard to believe Borris/kcotton are in it after being in a few finals the last few years. Harps have and have had the best juvenile teams in the county the last few years and heading into there third relagaton final tonight something not right there.. Who ever goes down will face probably plaois or Bkill in that grade next year so it won't be that easy to go straight back up.
Portlaoise seem to be flying it w/ Tommy Fitz in charge. I'm not a Portlaoise man, but it'd be good to see hurling re-emerge in the county town.
Plaois going well but Ballinakill with a full squad will be hard to beat. Plus Ballyfin and clonaslee could have a say in this grade aswell.
Rumours going round tat de senior champs will be increased to 10 teams for next year or at least a motion for it will be put forward... Good thing or bad thing?
It was put forward last year, proposed by Castletown and backed by all hurling clubs but the County Secretary scared people away from it over fixtures congestion
Think it would be a good thing to have 10 Senior teams
Hope it happens having 10 teams. Get rid of this Senior B shit aswell. Have junior intermediate and senior and 10 plus teams in each grade then we would have more competitive chsip in all grades. Like at the moment senior B is intermediate and intermediate is junior A.
Borris will be hoping for the 10 now, anyway!
The harps were 10 points better but nearly bottled it again.
28 points is some scoring all the same. There the enigma of Laois hurling for sure.
Dark days ahead for BK I fear
A good game tonight and some lovely hurling from both sides. Both goalkeepers looked nervous at times with a few unforced errors that cost The Harps a goal and almost cost BK one also. PJ Scully was a class act for BK and has some skill, thought O'Connor for the Harps was exciting to watch - a good prospect for the future if he keeps that level of play up.
While the Harps scored 0-28, I thought in general their forwards were lacking bite overall. Didn't take their chances which should have raised at least two green flags. Borris Kilcotton were no great shakes at the back and with a bit more of a physical presence up front Harps could have bagged a few goals. No.24 a big difference when he came on in bringing that needed physicality which saw them power back and win it out.
Borris Kilcotton will certainly be bitter over how their year collapsed around them, I hope for the sakes of the club it doesn't fester and totally fall apart in the boardroom too. Laois needs all the strongholds playing at the top level and there is certainly the case for making a ten club SHC in the coming couple of years.
For those hoping for a 10 team championship would this be a debate really if it was a Ballyfin or a Ballinakill even that had been relegated, the fact that it's Borris in Ossory/Kilcotton people seem to think they have a god given right to be senior, they got to a good few finals the last years granted but they have been in free fall since 2021, I actually reckon it would have been far worse for Laois hurling if The Harps had lost last night considering the amount players they are producing underage
B/K finished bottom of there group and conceded 28 points in a relegation final they deserve to be where they are.
As for a 10 team championship Laois are currently a McDonagh Cup team, we have 21 hurling clubs in this county currently, making half of them senior would be madness in my opinion, you'd only dilute the quality of the championship bringing extra clubs in
If you want 2 additional teams then if anything there should be a North and South regional team made of the non senior teams, and even at that I'd consider getting rid of 2 more to keep the 8 team championship, at least this way every player has access to senior hurling regardless of there club status, would also reduce the amount of lads leaving smaller clubs for bigger ones too
Danny Brennan and James Keyes two great examples, playing at lower levels but well well capable of playing county never mind senior club
Finally on Borris/Kilcotton, if rumours of what's been going on down there the last few years are true, then they are better off apart because forcing a marriage just doesn't work
There was a push for 10 senior teams from clubs the last 2 years so it's not just because borris /kcotton went down last night.
A 10 team senior championship for me is definitely worth exploring for a two year trial period. Portlaoise and ballinakill would be very competitive as it stands at senior level.
In the format the top team in each group would qualify for semi finals. 2nd plays 3rd in quarter finals. While bottom 2 teams enter B competition/ relegation.
I'd like to think much more competitive games than what's currently on offer in 8 team format.
Plus the premier intermediate grade has been absolutely shite over the last few years where one or two teams are streets ahead of the others. Scrap it and revert to good old fashioned intermediate grade as your 2nd competition. I think this would make the grade hugely competitive.
Better games better players. The offaly championship with a similar club count and profile to ours seems to be flying.
I don't think the appetite is in laois for regional senior teams to be competitive.
You're right - the Premier Intermediate is a nonsense.
If they re-structured the championship, they'd probably have to do the same with the leagues?
The offaly championship with a similar club count and profile to ours seems to be flying.
I don't think the appetite is in laois for regional senior teams to be competitive.
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In Offaly the talk is to reduce it to 8 teams atm with regional teams making the last 2 spots, and have 8 at Premier intermediate too, now the fact that a lot of players off both their all Ireland finalist in hurling and football at u20 are from smaller clubs might be part of it, but that is the talk atm, condensing senior or increasing the standard and player pool, or both
Quote from: BallyroanAbbey on August 31, 2023, 10:21:10 AM
The offaly championship with a similar club count and profile to ours seems to be flying.
I don't think the appetite is in laois for regional senior teams to be competitive.
In Offaly the talk is to reduce it to 8 teams atm with regional teams making the last 2 spots, and have 8 at Premier intermediate too, now the fact that a lot of players off both their all Ireland finalist in hurling and football at u20 are from smaller clubs might be part of it, but that is the talk atm, condensing senior or increasing the standard and player pool, or both
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I suppose there is no perfect formula but seems llike the right time to give it a go. The so called big 4 are no more in laois hurling. I really think that CB, RE and camross will come back into the pack over the next few years with Abbeyleix, harps and Castletown providing the best of young talent.
Here's an article from offaly at the start of last year. At least their county board officials actually listen
https://www.offalyexpress.ie/news/gaa/745564/offaly-senior-hurling-championship-to-remain-at-10-teams-after-objections-from-clubs.html
Our County board didn't want a change as it would be a bit more work with the fixtures for them.
Quote from: Spiritof1915 on August 31, 2023, 10:43:53 AM
The so called big 4 are no more in laois hurling. I really think that CB, RE and camross will come back into the pack over the next few years with Abbeyleix, harps and Castletown providing the best of young talent.
camross and harps will be top 2 in 5 years. And youd have camross ahead on trad and mentaltity.
RE, ballacolla, abbeyleix and maybe ctown will stay in the picture. Think some on hear rate ctown a bit too high.
i think 8 teams is right for senior but no quarterfinals. 3rd team out before Picnic and bottom teams in relegtion.
How would you put harps in top 2 in next 5 years is it cause of there juvenile setup? Harps had great juvenile teams through the 80s and 90s aswell but still no senior final. Camross have 2 or 3 minor finalss in about 40 years but still have up near 30 senior finals.
We don't have 10 Senior teams.
Possibly 9- but 9 doesn't work well.
Leave it at 8 and go back to the format of a few years ago with a draw after every round.
Current system is killing interest and reducing competitiveness.
I cannot understand the logic in going from what we had to what we have.
I'd agree with rebranding back to Intermediate, Junior A etc.
Who is your 9s team?
I'm not against more teams in principle but I'm finding it hard to figure out that adding two limited teams to the Senior championship is going to make it more competitive other than giving a safety net to some of the teams who fear relegation. The Camross 2nd team nearly beat Ballinakill so you imagine their 1st team would give them a fair beating. If the top clubs put their mind to it, they can give any of the bottom 4 under the current system a hammering. Two more weak teams will only act as cannon fodder. Is that what we want? 5 team groups poses a few challenges, the most obvious is that under our structures nearly every club will go a month without a game as there has to be a bye and that's not counting the picnic. You could have the situation where a team who topped a group and had a bye in the last group game could go six weeks before their semi final. The other challenge is that two teams who get a bye in the first wound could use their players on their second teams mess up the lower grade championships right down to junior. C. Both of these are fixable but Laois is a dual county and both codes have to be accommodated. At senior level clubs like Rosenallis and Abbeyleix have a lot of dual players who may not be as keen on more games.
Quote from: Laois man on August 31, 2023, 10:23:13 PM
Who is your 9s team?
Camross
Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill
Abbeyleix
Rosenallis
The Harps
Clonaslee
Colt Shanahoe
Mountmellick
Quote from: Keyser Söze on September 01, 2023, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: Laois man on August 31, 2023, 10:23:13 PM
Who is your 9s team?
Camross
Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill
Abbeyleix
Rosenallis
The Harps
Clonaslee
Colt Shanahoe
Mountmellick
So you'd promote Clonaslee and Mountmellick who are currently intermediate,into the senior championship over every team in the Premier Intermediate Championship?
Jesus wept
The reality is that we have 3 top level senior teams and then a gap
We had 4 for a few years with Borris
The question is to how to make it a competitive championship so that we don't have the spectacle of dead rubbers in round 3
My suggestion
10 teams
2 groups of 5
Previous years finalists seeded and drawn into the 2 groups
4 game round robin series and take the games out of O'Moore Park
Everyone gets 2 home games
Group Winner goes to a semi final
Grouo Second plays opposite group third in 2 semifinals with the second team in each group having home advantage
Group Fourth plays opposite group fifth in 2 relegation semis ditto 4th placed teams having home advantage
Relegation final
One goes down,one comes up
It's immaterial whether you call it premier intermediate or intermediate
It's the second level and the winner plays in the provincial intermediate championship.
Sarcasm ffs.
Stick to the exposés.
Groups of 5 = more meaningless games + a bigger safety net.
This can't be good.
Leave it at 8 imo. Rename premier intermediate to intermediate & so on thus bringing in junior D. Also would like to scrap the group system - as round 3 this year was largely meaningles games, go back to system few years ago - winners group & losers group. I would seed the semi finalists. Just my two pence worth.
Quote from: From the Terrace on September 02, 2023, 10:15:40 AM
Leave it at 8 imo. Rename premier intermediate to intermediate & so on thus bringing in junior D. Also would like to scrap the group system - as round 3 this year was largely meaningles games, go back to system few years ago - winners group & losers group. I would seed the semi finalists. Just my two pence worth.
100%.
Reminder that personal feuds will result in both parties being banned permanently.
Qfinals in the senior hurling this weekend. You would have to go for Cbolla with a bit to spare and Aleix. Aleix v Rosenallis could be close do. Any up date on back room team for our County senior hurlers?
I think Abbeyleix also.
They are the makings of a fine side. Likely to be knocking around the last 4 for the foreseeable.
The other game will certainly be double figures.
Could well be 25+
Castletown, like The Harps & Borris Kilcotton (and possibly even Rosenallis) have not been good.
Those teams need to the pressure of an 8 team championship to improve or go down.
Those who remember the championships of the 1990s into the early 2000s, the likes of Clonad and Errill were very poor but surviving because there was 10 or 12 teams.
It did nothing to improve the standard or competitive nature.
8 teams is what we have. Max.
Quote from: Keyser Söze on September 05, 2023, 10:38:41 PM
I think Abbeyleix also.
They are the makings of a fine side. Likely to be knocking around the last 4 for the foreseeable.
The other game will certainly be double figures.
Could well be 25+
Castletown, like The Harps & Borris Kilcotton (and possibly even Rosenallis) have not been good.
Those teams need to the pressure of an 8 team championship to improve or go down.
Those who remember the championships of the 1990s into the early 2000s, the likes of Clonad and Errill were very poor but surviving because there was 10 or 12 teams.
It did nothing to improve the standard or competitive nature.
8 teams is what we have. Max.
Have to agree. 10 team competition will only make it easier for the bottom 4 clubs to survive. The relegation final for the last number of years has been more competitive than most matches.
Ideally, I would like to see a 6 team championship with two regional teams making up the 8. It would result in a very competitive senior championship with every hurler in the county worth their salt getting opportunity to play competitive senior championship games.
The only problem would be playing the intermediate, junior championships at separate times to the senior championship to allow players field for their regional team in the senior championship. Adding two extra clubs to the senior championship to make it a 10 club championship is ridiculous. It is only being proposed to add a safety net for middling senior clubs. The county board should hold firm on this. What you do not want is the hurling championship to turn into the Laois football championship-half the teams in it have absolutely no chance of winning the championship and it results in weeks on meaningless games to get to quarter finals.
Can't ever see Regional teams going into senior Cship maybe I am wrong. We are talking about too many teams in the hurling 16 in the senior fball is some joke.
Quote from: Laois man on September 06, 2023, 01:33:36 PM
Can't ever see Regional teams going into senior Cship maybe I am wrong. We are talking about too many teams in the hurling 16 in the senior fball is some joke.
It's about quality rather than numbers of teams and brining up the standard of Laois hurling
You could call the teams amalgamated instead of regional. They do it in Cork and Kerry.
Quote from: seafoid on September 06, 2023, 01:36:31 PM
Quote from: Laois man on September 06, 2023, 01:33:36 PM
Can't ever see Regional teams going into senior Cship maybe I am wrong. We are talking about too many teams in the hurling 16 in the senior fball is some joke.
It's about quality rather than numbers of teams and brining up the standard of Laois hurling
You could call the teams amalgamated instead of regional. They do it in Cork and Kerry.
They are far bigger counties. Do they do it in any county comparable in size to Laois?
Offaly have 10 senior clubs. Westmeath have 6 and 6 in senior B I believe.
There's no easy fix for keeping championships competitive. In most championships nationwide you always have 2 to 3 teams ahead of the pack. It evoles over the years . Teams come and go as evidenced by borris kilcotton last week.
What I do know is the premier intermediate competion has been dreadful over the last few years. One or 2 teams totally dominating, winning pulling up. Ballyfin, clonaslee, slieve bloom, colt shanahoe along with camross, rathdowney Errill and now ballacolla 2nd team have no realistic chance of winning. And it's the manner of defeats which is the problem and totally detrimental to bringing on Laois hurling.
Ballinakill with a full compliment and portlaoise would in my opinion be competitive with The Harps, Castletown, rosenallis , abbeyleix and borris kilcotton. The other 3 are a bit ahead but in a few years with hard work it not unrealistic to think the other teams would make semi finals and finals. They all have solid platforms.
A 10 team senior championship would then make the intermediate championship very competitive. With the addition of colt/shanahoe, park ratheniska, mountmellick. Mountrath have talent on the horizon too. These teams can't be ignored either. It would be some crack truknb to predict a winner.
It's my take on it and worth trialling for 2 years in my opinion. It's the only show in town for the clubs in offaly and have argued successfully against the offaly County board to keep it in place.
How about you go the other way and turn the Laois senior championship in a 6 team championship and the Intermediate into a 6 Team championship. If you want evenly matched and competitive games this might be the way forward. Play the 6 team championships using a league format with top team straight through to the final and 2nd v 3rd in a semi final. I would have the bottom 2 teams meet in a relegation decider. That way it would keep every game competitive. You would have a senior championship of Camross, Castletown, Abbeyleix, Clough-Ballacolla, Rathdowney-Errill, Rosenallis and an intermediate championship of The Harps, Borris-Kilcotton, Ballinakill, Ballyfin, Portlaoise and Slieve Bloom. I think both those championships should provide some evenly contested and competitive games. Upping the number of senior teams to just make intermediate championship more competitive makes little sense to me.
Quote from: Laois Rising on September 06, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
How about you go the other way and turn the Laois senior championship in a 6 team championship and the Intermediate into a 6 Team championship. If you want evenly matched and competitive games this might be the way forward. Play the 6 team championships using a league format with top team straight through to the final and 2nd v 3rd in a semi final. I would have the bottom 2 teams meet in a relegation decider. That way it would keep every game competitive. You would have a senior championship of Camross, Castletown, Abbeyleix, Clough-Ballacolla, Rathdowney-Errill, Rosenallis and an intermediate championship of The Harps, Borris-Kilcotton, Ballinakill, Ballyfin, Portlaoise and Slieve Bloom. I think both those championships should provide some evenly contested and competitive games. Upping the number of senior teams to just make intermediate championship more competitive makes little sense to me.
Certainly a better option that what's in place atm
Sbloom could struggle to stay intermediate next year.
Slieve Bloom were relegated from Premier Intermediate this year, and could struggle to stay going at all. They've a very small panel, and seemingly have virtually no juveniles coming through for the next few years. Can't remember the exact details, but there was some dispute, and nearly all the juveniles have now ended up going to Castletown.
On the Senior thing - the original proposal to increase to 10 was dependant on the two extra being area teams, as far as I remember.
Clubs with no juvenile set up can't stay going. That's where all the work starts with the juveniles.
6 would be very harsh! I think playing the same teams all the time would be a bit of drag too.
If it goes to 10, something along the Kilkenny system could be used?
Groups of 5.
4 games.
1 & 1 into semi finals
2v3 & 2v3 in quarter finals
4v5 & 4v5 into relegation semis
Or just leave 4 out of it.
Gone from championship but safe.
If it stays at 8, I think the groups need to be scrapped!
Quote from: Laois man on September 06, 2023, 03:30:57 PM
Sbloom could struggle to stay intermediate next year.
I just put them in at the end out of devilment tbh. Also, there is no way clubs would support the reduction to 6 teams at senior or premier intermediate. The Kilkenny system has merits too. At present the current system is not working as well as it could and for that reason would like to see something new trialled.
Right lads just for abit of crack my prediction for this yearsenior champs Rdowney /Errill. Senior B Ballinakill. Intermediate Trumrea. Junior A park ratheniska. Junior B Harps and junior C Ballyfin.
The only ones I'd quibble with are Ballinakill (think Portlaoise will do it) and Trumera. Not sure who will win the intermediate, but I don't think it'll be Trumera. Colt/ Shanahoe with James Keyes (not likely at the moment), or Mountmellick? Actually, quite an even championship with no team miles ahead of the others. Ballyfin will certainly win the 'C'.
Burdizzo. I seeing Bkill playing plaois they were good and if Cha comes homes it will be some help. But it will be a close Cship Ballyfin ain't too bad either. Just feel Trumrea are coming good at the right time good win over colt/Shanahoe but Aleix will be tough in Qfinal sat night.
2 qfinals yesterday Aleix looked good but Rosenallis were poor never got going in the second half at all. Second game was a cracker Castletown must be sick this morning done everything but win. There full back were outstanding holding Bergin. Picked and cillian Dunne too 2 points from play. What was the last free for Cbolla for? Ctown hit 2.17 from play Cbolla with 2.09 from play. Still think Cbolla v Rdowney final. Is there any where ye can listen back to Jack Nolan on radio 3 for yesterday games??
Last free was a line ball to C/B that's all,really sorry for Castletown they were the better team by far,ref made huge decisions on both sides,but no help from the other officials,
Great game and good to see a close game at quarter final stage. The gap is definitely closing on what now is the top 3. Castletown were excellent on Sunday. I think the harps are coming and if they had a full team for the earlier rounds they would have been in quarters. Abbeyleix have taken over from borris kilcotton as a top 4 team and they will be thereabouts for a county final over the coming years.
Looking at the county team next year. Lee Cleere was outstanding and is a nailed on starter for laois if he commits. Brendan Reddin is nearly a veteran at this stage but was very good. I wouldnt mind seeing him coming in for laois with 20 minutes to go in some games. Some of the younger lads were very good too especially on the castletown side Rory Kelly, Aaron Phelan, Ciaran McKelvey and Jack Breen all played well and looked comfortable at this level, as far as i know all 4 of them are u20 next year too. Cormac hogan and joseph pearson when introduced also acquitted themselves well, both u20 next year too.
In the other game Abbeyleix are a very well balanced team with an exceptional goalkeeper. Colin Byrne (u20 next year) was dangerous, along with good performaces from Fionan Mahony, Aaron Brennan and Liam Delaney. David Dooley would be worth bringing in to a county senior set up (depending on rugby), an excellent hurler that would benefit from training at an elite level.
Agree with the previous posters, Castletown will be sick.
Some score to put up while playing with a sweeper.
Their use of ball and comfort levels on the ball (particularly inside their own 65) was very impressive.
If they can achieve a level of consistency and settle on starting positions for some of their main men they can definitely push on.
Abbeyleix very very good again. There is major potential there. They are ahead of the rest in chasing down the big 3.
Rosenallis have possibly reached a limit in their upward journey.
I think Ctown had 5 U20s starting Sunday and another came on. Ctown backs looked very comfortable on the ball Aaron Phelan young Kelly and Breen are only out of minor Shane and Joe Phelan were outstanding at the back aswell. But they still lost and were hard do by I feel they last free will haunt them as it wasn't a free.
I don't get the chance to go to the senior hurling matches as much as I would like to. Would lads say that the standard has got better over the past few years with the 8 team championship or stayed the same/dropped in standard?
The ref who made a massive error last week in Premier intermediate quarter gets rewarded with doing the senior semi final, only in laois would this happen.
Quote from: From the Terrace on September 15, 2023, 10:32:09 PM
The ref who made a massive error last week in Premier intermediate quarter gets rewarded with doing the senior semi final, only in laois would this happen.
OK, it was careless, but it's easy enough done, and actually happens fairly often that a ref. gets the score a point out either way. Presumably he marked one down in the wrong column, just this time it actually mattered. I don't think he's the worst if them, actually, and I think he held his hand up, after - didn't he? What, would you have him struck off, or what? You know, there's not that many refs up to the standard in the county that we can be booting him to touch over that.
Quote from: From the Terrace on September 15, 2023, 10:32:09 PM
The ref who made a massive error last week in Premier intermediate quarter gets rewarded with doing the senior semi final, only in laois would this happen.
He's a quality ref. Mistakes happen.
I know people make mistake, the least the county board could've done is drop him a grade for next weekend. The consequences of his error is another game on clonaslee St manmans - with all their dual players playing week on week now is a big ask challenging on two fronts. There is 4 better referees in the county imo. As I said nothing against the ref - I think governance is the main issue.
At Least Rdowney /Errill got a replay Castletown got nothing only rode out a Sfinal spot.
I feel it will be a Cbolla v Rdowney /Errill final. I hear camross were hurling in Tipp last weekend and played Kk in offaly yesterday. Rdowney /Errill going well in challenge games aswell. Both games should be close the weekend.
Big upset with newly promoted Abbeyleix beating Rathdowney Erril 3-20 to 3-18
Did Rowland get a goal?
Good underage work being done in Abbeyleix, and they're in the minor final again this year. Could be a presence for a while.
Fair play to Aleix
Abbeyleix V Camross final. Should be a good one.
1949 since there last final appearance it's great for there supporters
should be great excitement in Abbeyleix over the next 2 weeks
Quote from: Laois man on September 18, 2023, 08:52:50 AMI feel it will be a Cbolla v Rdowney /Errill final. I hear camross were hurling in Tipp last weekend and played Kk in offaly yesterday. Rdowney /Errill going well in challenge games aswell. Both games should be close the weekend.
Good call Mr Oracle 👍
Ye Smellyball that's what I called. I don't think many people seeing a Aleix v Camross final but fair play to both teams should be a good final.
Definitely some reason for optimism after those two cracking semi finals.
Brilliant to see new teams coming to the table with Abbeyleix, Castletown and The Harps showing green shoots this year. Its a real pity that BK have gone off the boil. If we had C/B,R/E, Abbeyleix, Camross, Castletown, The Harps, Borris Kilcotton, Rosenallis and maybe even Portlaoise all contending surely it would only be good for hurling within the county.
Hard luck to C/B. Super club, great champions but all things come to an end eventually.
The partnership between Ballyroan and Abbeyleix over the last number of year has served both clubs well and starting to pay rich dividends at senior level. By having lads from Abbeyleix playing football with Ballyroan and lads from Ballyroan having the option of hurling with Abbeyleix its has resulted in clubs having big numbers and competitive teams coming up through the juvenile ranks, created bonds between players who have had a taste for success and now a desire to bring that to senior level.
Some of the lads coming through with Abbeyleix have been involved in excellent underage set ups for both football and hurling. I think this model also shows the benefits of having kids regularly in the field (be it football or hurling) creating strong bonds and forging friendships. These bonds will carry through to the senior team and you have no doubt that Abbeyleix players will give it their all for one another on the field of play. Lads like Ciaran Byrne, Lawson Obulor, Shaun Fitzpatrick and two or three others have won U20 titles together in both football and hurling. They may fall short against Camross but this does not feel like a flash in the pan for this Abbeyleix side. They are also a youthful side who can only improve over next couple of years.
Surely this model that Abbeyleix and Ballyroan could be replicated by other clubs. The benefits are there for all to see. I'm thinking a club like Ballinakill who do at times struggle numbers wise would benefit from forging a similar type partnership with a strong football only club and give it the time to develop. Both clubs would benefit from the influx of players. The players would benefit from having the higher numbers which would improve the standard of training. The extra coaching in both football and hurling would benefit the development of the children's skillsets etc. I remember Ballinakill and Crettyard amalgamating at underage level once upon a time under some Gaels name and winning a few underage football titles before it fell apart. In hindsight they should have remained separate entities but worked in partnership over a number of years to introduce kids from Crettyard to playing hurling and playing with Ballinakill while the Ballinakill kids playing football with Crettyard. It would take a little hard work and organisation but it could have benefitted both clubs hugely. Imagine having Evan O'Carroll as a hurler and Ciaran Burke lining out for Ballinakill instead of The Harps.
Any update on who our senior intercounty hurling backroom team is yet?
Quote from: Laois man on September 27, 2023, 10:36:07 AMAny update on who our senior intercounty hurling backroom team is yet?
I have heard they can't get anyone. Don't know how true but very disappointing if it is true.
Best wishes to both teams this Sunday and indeed the minor hurlers.
Big day for Abbeyleix. Hopefully we'll get a good exhibition of hurling
Camross by 5 for me
What a day for Trumera.
There must be some pride in rigging out in a final against a combined Colt/Shanahoe side.
The three battled away in the 1990s at Junior & Intermediate.
Things swung one way & another.
They have battled on throughout.
Tomorrow - Abbeyleix have a huge amount going for them. I've been saying that for the last two months.
They have really surprised me in this year's championship. But they are here to stay.
Camross should manage the situation as they have shown they are able to unlike most others. Expect agression & hits early on.
Camross' bench won the semi final for them. It'll make a difference here too.
Camross by 6.
Maybe Abbeyleix will be here to stay, and maybe the nerves of a first county final got to them, but they've a good bit of learning to do. Camross just did the basics well. Nothing too fancy - except Mossy Keyes, 3-6 from play! Not bad. Abbeyleix missed a rake of chances in the first half, some from easy frees. It was a pity to see them go down so tame, and I fancy Camross will be beat by Naas in the Leinster championship. Still, you have to admire Camross. Some say they should never have beaten C/B, but they did, and here we are.
The Harps and Abbeyleix served up some minor final today, eleven goals really gave great entertainment. Can see these two squads dominating for a few years yet.
It wasn't to be Abbeyleix's day and kinda bit deflating for them to lose both games by margins of 12pts and 16pts.
Thought Camross were very commanding in the senior final and the hooking, harrying and passing from them was clinical. I thought that they fine weather would have suited Abbeyleix more but the first touch, wasted wides and wayward passing killed their ambitions.
Whilst disappointed today one would hope that the Abbeyleix squad will want to go harder next year and get back into the final to redeem themselves. Abbeyleix have a window of a few years to grab a title as the top teams are regressing and the younger teams are progressing.
Camross had game over after 15 mins shocking poor final Aleix way off the pace
Tough on Abbelyleix. All the talk was on them before the final and nothing about Camross as such. The Abbeyleix lads will be feeling like shite today i'd say. Never turned up and were well neaten in a very one sided final.
Camross were never going to lose that game, especially after last year's no show.
Abbeyleix were poor. Game was effectively over after 5 mins. Was it nerves or being over hyped. Maybe a bit of both.
Quote from: Spiritof1915 on October 09, 2023, 10:49:15 AMCamross were never going to lose that game, especially after last year's no show.
Abbeyleix were poor. Game was effectively over after 5 mins. Was it nerves or being over hyped. Maybe a bit of both.
Just watched back the final on Clubber. Camross were fairly ruthless and game was over after 10-15 mins realistically. Abbeyleix will hopefully learn quickly for their sake and will be first of many senior finals over next few years.
Heard the minor final was very entertaining as curtain raiser.
Abbeyleix will probably be more likely to win an intermediate title than a senior over next 2-3 years with crop coming through and a decent side regardless.
Has there been any more talk on a hurling revamp to 10 teams at senior and below or is it just mere pub talk?
Ballyfin Portlaoise will be a close game in Premier Intermediate though will do very little once promoted.
Quote from: Helix. on October 10, 2023, 12:26:48 AMHeard the minor final was very entertaining as curtain raiser.
Ballyfin Portlaoise will be a close game in Premier Intermediate though will do very little once promoted.
Yes, the minor final was entertaining, but some of the defending was atrocious - and the goalkeeping (on both sides) pretty shaky, too.
I'd say Portlaoise would be better able for senior ranks. Hopefully give a boost to hurling in the town.
Colt Shanahoe v Trumera
You'd imagine that Colt Shanahoe should have too much at the second time of asking. Is Keyes around does anyone know?
Trumera keep surprising us.
Ballyfin v Portlaoise
An interesting one here. Portlaoise like to dictate things and play in a very set manner. Interesting to see if they can get into their groove next Sunday.
They are hard to stop once the scores start rolling. They look well prepared and have an intent in how they wish to go about things.
Ballyfin are quite dogged, look well set up too and will certainly get in amongst Portlaoise.
Finn, Lanham, Lyons, Darragh Connolly all bring a high level of aggression and physicality.
It will come down to whether Portlaoise can get it going moving the ball from line to line with runners and short stick passes. Or can Ballyfin disrupt this.
The weather could play a part in answering this question too.
Quote from: Verbal on October 16, 2023, 11:55:02 AMColt Shanahoe v Trumera
You'd imagine that Colt Shanahoe should have too much at the second time of asking. Is Keyes around does anyone know?
Trumera keep surprising us.
Ballyfin v Portlaoise
An interesting one here. Portlaoise like to dictate things and play in a very set manner. Interesting to see if they can get into their groove next Sunday.
They are hard to stop once the scores start rolling. They look well prepared and have an intent in how they wish to go about things.
Ballyfin are quite dogged, look well set up too and will certainly get in amongst Portlaoise.
Finn, Lanham, Lyons, Darragh Connolly all bring a high level of aggression and physicality.
It will come down to whether Portlaoise can get it going moving the ball from line to line with runners and short stick passes. Or can Ballyfin disrupt this.
The weather could play a part in answering this question too.
Good summary. I think ballyfin will be hard to break down. They have a very formidable back line.
If portlaoise can't win this with 2 extras lads from. Limerick and kerry aswell there going no where.
Foley is from Kerry and Sheehan from Limerick ye?
What's their back story?
From Google;
Foley seems to have represented Kerry.
Sheehan seems to have played a hell of a lot of sports!
Nice little bonus for any team.
Are they both in their first year with Portlaoise.
Had Portlaoise many involved with the footballers on Sunday?
Quote from: Verbal on October 16, 2023, 03:01:50 PMFoley is from Kerry and Sheehan from Limerick ye?
What's their back story?
From Google;
Foley seems to have represented Kerry.
Sheehan seems to have played a hell of a lot of sports!
Nice little bonus for any team.
Are they both in their first year with Portlaoise.
Had Portlaoise many involved with the footballers on Sunday?
2 guards. Sheehan hurled senior in Limerick with murroe-boher.
Foley won an all ireland medal with kerry minor footballers. Also hurled senior with kerry if I'm not mistaken. Both good additions but don't know if they will be long term additions. They have some good talent coming thru with Dj white, young raggett and brocken in the goals.
They might not be far off Castletown, rosenallis, The Harps, abbeyleix, if they do manage to win. Tommy Fitz staying in charge will be key
4 or 5 I think with bot codes. Flanagan. Maca Dj White Conor brown Raggart. Maybe more.
Quote from: Verbal on October 16, 2023, 11:55:02 AMColt Shanahoe v Trumera
You'd imagine that Colt Shanahoe should have too much at the second time of asking. Is Keyes around does anyone know?
Trumera keep surprising us.
Ballyfin v Portlaoise
An interesting one here. Portlaoise like to dictate things and play in a very set manner. Interesting to see if they can get into their groove next Sunday.
They are hard to stop once the scores start rolling. They look well prepared and have an intent in how they wish to go about things.
Ballyfin are quite dogged, look well set up too and will certainly get in amongst Portlaoise.
Finn, Lanham, Lyons, Darragh Connolly all bring a high level of aggression and physicality.
It will come down to whether Portlaoise can get it going moving the ball from line to line with runners and short stick passes. Or can Ballyfin disrupt this.
The weather could play a part in answering this question too.
Can't make my mind up fully.
Colt Shanahoe by 5
Ballyfin by 4
Expect to be wrong on at least one of them!
Quote from: Verbal on October 21, 2023, 12:20:31 PMQuote from: Verbal on October 16, 2023, 11:55:02 AMColt Shanahoe v Trumera
You'd imagine that Colt Shanahoe should have too much at the second time of asking. Is Keyes around does anyone know?
Trumera keep surprising us.
Ballyfin v Portlaoise
An interesting one here. Portlaoise like to dictate things and play in a very set manner. Interesting to see if they can get into their groove next Sunday.
They are hard to stop once the scores start rolling. They look well prepared and have an intent in how they wish to go about things.
Ballyfin are quite dogged, look well set up too and will certainly get in amongst Portlaoise.
Finn, Lanham, Lyons, Darragh Connolly all bring a high level of aggression and physicality.
It will come down to whether Portlaoise can get it going moving the ball from line to line with runners and short stick passes. Or can Ballyfin disrupt this.
The weather could play a part in answering this question too.
Can't make my mind up fully.
Colt Shanahoe by 5
Ballyfin by 4
Expect to be wrong on at least one of them!
Oooh. I'd have Portlaoise as favourites.
They are bookies favourites.
Ballyfin have had a very good year and been very consistent.
Yes, I believe Keyes will be there. Their third time flying him home this year! So, it'll be an expensive title should they actually win it!
Trumera are amazing - how they get so much from so little. You really have to admire them. I don't think they're good enough to win the intermediate, but even getting to a final is some testament to their doggedness.
Very poor game today, Ballyfin very disappointing.
I think that kills any debate over a 10 team senior.
There just aren't 10 teams.
It would be a case of bringing the standard down without a good justification.
In fairness to Portlaoise, impressive to overcome the loss of Macca and win. They are better equipped to have a go at senior. Hopefully better times ahead for hurling in the town.
When are Camross out in Leinster?
Quote from: Zooming around on October 23, 2023, 01:26:22 PMWhen are Camross out in Leinster?
Sunday 12th November. Home to Kildare champions.
Quote from: Spiritof86 on October 23, 2023, 02:40:35 PMQuote from: Zooming around on October 23, 2023, 01:26:22 PMWhen are Camross out in Leinster?
Sunday 12th November. Home to Kildare champions.
That'd be Naas, and they'd be good enough. I'd expect them to beat Camross.
Naas would be strong after winning 5 in a row senior finals in kildare. Will there be a few of that plaois team called into laois senior panel. Byrne Sheehan etc? To me Sheehan is senior B hurler of the year.
Have to agree both games Saturday & Sunday were poor viewing. Ballyfin looked leggy and very limited. Portlaoise created a lot more scoring chances and should of been ahead more at half-time, they were doing all the hurling.
No atmosphere at the game though, surely they could of had a double-header with the Intermediate Final Replay as curtain raiser
Judging on that Game it could not justify automatic promotion for the likes of Ballyfin to a 10 Tier Senior Competition as there would be no improvement to the overall standard which should be priority. Some changes needed though to make games more exciting & that competitive edge in Games / Teams before Semi-Finals stages.
Colt Shanahoe better team Saturday and deserved win, Trumera were very poor though throughout the game compared to the 1st Day when they got going , They are one hell of a proud club though, always get the best out of what they have. Colt Shanahoe could struggle going up a grade on that viewing
Camross could struggle to beat Naas, Naas are an athletic enough side as well as hurling improving massively, Camross will be focused though after seen what Naas did to Shinrone last year id imagine and an early start against Ballyhale too they were 6 up after 10 minutes until Ballyhales class kicked in
New Senior Management Team confirmed , what's the thoughts on this ?
Any update on many new faces gone into senior hurling panel training.
Quote from: John1 on October 27, 2023, 09:21:02 AMNew Senior Management Team confirmed , what's the thoughts on this ?
Underwhelming!
Quote from: John1 on October 27, 2023, 09:21:02 AMJudging on that Game it could not justify automatic promotion for the likes of Ballyfin to a 10 Tier Senior Competition as there would be no improvement to the overall standard which should be priority. Some changes needed though to make games more exciting & that competitive edge in Games / Teams before Semi-Finals stages.
Agreed.
I think a small change of reverting back to the previous system of open draw winners section & loser section would be a help in this regard.
A draw after every round.
Nobody looking ahead to rounds 2 and 3 with easy wins/big beatings likely to come.
I cannot understand how so many felt dead rubber group games would be better than that.
Quote from: John1 on October 27, 2023, 09:21:02 AMCamross could struggle to beat Naas, Naas are an athletic enough side as well as hurling improving massively, Camross will be focused though after seen what Naas did to Shinrone last year id imagine and an early start against Ballyhale too they were 6 up after 10 minutes until Ballyhales class kicked in
I'd expect Naas to win.
As someone else mentioned- hugely athletic & good hurlers.
Camross get into the heads of opponents in Laois- this doesn't seem to transfer outside the county, and 5 in a row county champions unlikely to fall into that trap.
Quote from: John1 on October 27, 2023, 09:21:02 AMNew Senior Management Team confirmed , what's the thoughts on this ?
Has the appearance of adding a few mates. You'd wonder were any other Laois people approached to get involved?
Surely there's somebody around with something to offer who is willing to get involved.
Seems like Camross and Portlaoise put up decent showings, but Colt/ Shanahoe were an embarrassment. Obviously they were never going to win, but scoring 1-1 is a joke. Was there a wedding the night before?
Sobering set of results this weekend. With Ballyhale not in Leinster this year it really opens the door for the remaining club sides in Leinster. It's a pity Camross weren't able to get into the mix and go on a run similar to C-Balla few years back. Portlaoise will need to find an extra level if they want to properly compete at senior level in Laois next year.
Camross and Portlaoise defintely competitive. Colt Shanahoe were never going to compete against the KK champs
Be interesting to see where Naas are at next day against Na Fianna. Possible Leinster winners on the other semi final though
That is the reality of where Laois Hurling is at in comparison to KK.
Harsh enough to call Colt Shanahoe an embarrassment. Fair enough 1:1 is a brutal score to put up but they were never going to put it up to the kk champs. As mentioned above Ballacolla went on a good run in Leinster but ultimately got hammered by Ballyhale in the finish.
1:01 is bad scoring. 4-5 on the county final team not starting/available and a wedding the night before apparently. it still would be a big ask to put up a battle if they had them players. KK junior champions would probably put it up to Portlaoise.
Naas aint a bad team, however camross will be disappointed not beating them. Leinster is wide open this year with Ballyhale not in it.
Managers 2024
Senior
Camross Arien Delaney
Abbeyleix PJ Peacock
Rathdowney Errill Martin Power
Clough Ballacolla Willie Hyland
Castletown David Cuddy
Rosenallis - ?
The Harps Alan Guilfoyle
Portlaoise Tommy Fitzgerald
Premier Intermediate
Ballyfin Paul Cuddy
Borris Kilcotton Paudie Bourke
Ballinakill Damien Walsh
Clonaslee Brendan Lowry
Colt Shanahoe - ?
Rathdowney Errill - ?
Camross - ?
Clough Ballacolla - ?
They all confirmed?
I think Arien is going to go the way of Howard Kendall. For those of a certain age !
Dan Kilmartin staying on with Rosenallis
Disharmony in Rathdowney Errill as Martin Power let go now after being reappointed
Quote from: Ogie on January 16, 2024, 10:24:04 AMDan Kilmartin staying on with Rosenallis
Disharmony in Rathdowney Errill as Martin Power let go now after being reappointed
Funny moves! How did they take him back if they weren't happy!
He seemed to have a very peripheral role in the whole set up last year- there were lots of Chiefs!
Quote from: Verbal on January 16, 2024, 10:07:35 PMQuote from: Ogie on January 16, 2024, 10:24:04 AMDan Kilmartin staying on with Rosenallis
Disharmony in Rathdowney Errill as Martin Power let go now after being reappointed
Funny moves! How did they take him back if they weren't happy!
He seemed to have a very peripheral role in the whole set up last year- there were lots of Chiefs!
Oh really do elaborate?
Nothing to report except I saw them in a few league & championship games.
He seemed to stand back and defer to others in the set up.
Obviously I don't know what happened behind the scenes!
Quote from: Verbal on January 17, 2024, 10:09:43 PMNothing to report except I saw them in a few league & championship games.
He seemed to stand back and defer to others in the set up.
Obviously I don't know what happened behind the scenes!
Lol
Disagreement over money for training the team
Quote from: Ballygowen on November 15, 2023, 02:27:07 PM1:01 is bad scoring. 4-5 on the county final team not starting/available and a wedding the night before apparently. it still would be a big ask to put up a battle if they had them players. KK junior champions would probably put it up to Portlaoise.
Naas aint a bad team, however camross will be disappointed not beating them. Leinster is wide open this year with Ballyhale not in it.
I watched that game on Saturday night and, unfortunately, it looks like the Kilkenny team would do a bit more than put it up to Portlaoise.
Quote from: les Antiques on January 17, 2024, 11:15:03 PMQuote from: Verbal on January 17, 2024, 10:09:43 PMNothing to report except I saw them in a few league & championship games.
He seemed to stand back and defer to others in the set up.
Obviously I don't know what happened behind the scenes!
Lol
Anything to add?
Laois Senior Hurling Draws
Ballacolla
Abbeyleix
Rosenallis
Harps
Camross
Rathdowney
Castletown
Portlaoise
Quote from: Galtee1 on March 05, 2024, 03:50:47 PMLaois Senior Hurling Draws
Ballacolla
Abbeyleix
Rosenallis
Harps
Camross
Rathdowney
Castletown
Portlaoise
Anything of note to follow the championship draws? Have any clubs got new management or additions in
Most clubs down players due to emigrated
Quote from: Laois man on March 05, 2024, 04:35:33 PMMost clubs down players due to emigrated
Any notable absentees?
I believe Abbeyleix have a few gone. Ctown have a few aswell.
And Portlaoise, I believe.
Never heard about plaois now.
I see plaois have a inter county footballer joining them from Tipperary. He's a handy hurler aswell I believe.