Antrim Hurling

[johnnycool]

yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Don't get this at all myself. Clonduff are clearly a strong team but entering the same championship each year offers nothing to them. They should be senior and to be fair Down senior camogs are very good as well. they are better than Antrim and Derry as well and would be good enough to compete in the ulster senior club championship.

The Ulster intermediate final is just Down v Tyrone so again it seems a bit pointless the same two sides playing in it each year (usually Clonduff v Eglish). there's not much in terms of counties pushing up grades.

there's an Ulster Junior championship and the Junior B and then the shield. Too many sub competitions and too many teams at that level where they should be moved up

How camogie is organised really is a head scratcher at times both in Down and in Ulster.

As for Clonduff, I'd have thought they'd have been wanting to push up to senior but maybe the thought of running into SN and Loughgeil puts them off, I don't know. Maybe picking up lower level baubles is their thing...

[NAG1]

yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Don't get this at all myself. Clonduff are clearly a strong team but entering the same championship each year offers nothing to them. They should be senior and to be fair Down senior camogs are very good as well. they are better than Antrim and Derry as well and would be good enough to compete in the ulster senior club championship.

The Ulster intermediate final is just Down v Tyrone so again it seems a bit pointless the same two sides playing in it each year (usually Clonduff v Eglish). there's not much in terms of counties pushing up grades.

there's an Ulster Junior championship and the Junior B and then the shield. Too many sub competitions and too many teams at that level where they should be moved up

How camogie is organised really is a head scratcher at times both in Down and in Ulster.

As for Clonduff, I'd have thought they'd have been wanting to push up to senior but maybe the thought of running into SN and Loughgeil puts them off, I don't know. Maybe picking up lower level baubles is their thing...

Shouldn't be a choice. You win the intermediate you automatically have to go up a level, should apply across the board for all the competitions.

[imtommygunn]

Is there not something about 5 years with this in the hurling? Not sure about football but the likes of Rock keep coming back in it so not sure it applies.

[the colonel]

It won't be the club who decides they stay at a certain level for the following year. That is determined by the County/ Provincial Council.

[johnnycool]

It won't be the club who decides they stay at a certain level for the following year. That is determined by the County/ Provincial Council.

In Down Camogie the CB are Clonduff.

[delgany]

Is there not something about 5 years with this in the hurling? Not sure about football but the likes of Rock keep coming back in it so not sure it applies.

Reduced to 3 years and only applies to Hurling grades

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Its something that needs to be reviewed more often and not allowed to sit still for years.

For example St Thresa's Dungannon beat our second team in 2016 shield final. They were back in it again in 2017 winning it and then 2018 again winning it. Whats the point in that or how is that progressing the game?

Clonduff are a very talented side and should be playing in the Ulster senior championship. Eglish are playing in the Derry league now and have ran Clonduff really close this past number of years (should of beaten them in one of the finals) and could probably play in the senior championship.

They dont seem to have any sort of promotion to a higher rank for teams at all.

[delgany]

Its something that needs to be reviewed more often and not allowed to sit still for years.

For example St Thresa's Dungannon beat our second team in 2016 shield final. They were back in it again in 2017 winning it and then 2018 again winning it. Whats the point in that or how is that progressing the game?

Clonduff are a very talented side and should be playing in the Ulster senior championship. Eglish are playing in the Derry league now and have ran Clonduff really close this past number of years (should of beaten them in one of the finals) and could probably play in the senior championship.

They dont seem to have any sort of promotion to a higher rank for teams at all.

Different organisations have different expectations and rules.Would the camogie association in ulster, be planning for an outcome in all ireland series ?

[CitySlicker11]

Were clubs consulted on the decision to replace and rename the volunteer Cup?

[Na Glinntí Glasa]

Its something that needs to be reviewed more often and not allowed to sit still for years.

For example St Thresa's Dungannon beat our second team in 2016 shield final. They were back in it again in 2017 winning it and then 2018 again winning it. Whats the point in that or how is that progressing the game?

Clonduff are a very talented side and should be playing in the Ulster senior championship. Eglish are playing in the Derry league now and have ran Clonduff really close this past number of years (should of beaten them in one of the finals) and could probably play in the senior championship.

They dont seem to have any sort of promotion to a higher rank for teams at all.

Different organisations have different expectations and rules.Would the camogie association in ulster, be planning for an outcome in all ireland series ?

Yeah they are. Ulster starts shortly for Creggan and Tir Na nOg in the Shield and Junior championship for each side. Loughgiel have to wait to January for an Ulster final.

The AI series is after the provincial series in each grade.

[MoChara]

Were clubs consulted on the decision to replace and rename the volunteer Cup?

Seen a Facebook post up about that actually, be interesting to hear the truth of it

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1036703576791256&id=100013548708032

[Milltown Row2]

Were clubs consulted on the decision to replace and rename the volunteer Cup?

Seen a Facebook post up about that actually, be interesting to hear the truth of it

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1036703576791256&id=100013548708032

Had no idea there was a change until I seen a photo days after and was wondering what cup they were holding

[CitySlicker11]

I can sense a major backlash if this is a decision that was rushed through by the County executive. Will be interesting to see how this develops.

[Antrim Coaster]

It was proposed that the Volunteer Cup be taken out of service due to the state and the age of the cup - dates from the 30's and the fact it may have been battered about a bit over the years (I think it is made from Irish silver which isn't available any more). It was proposed that the trophy be presented to the winning captain then withdrawn (like the Scottish Cup, the original is presented to the winning team and a replica presented for the lap of honour etc). Dunloy were the holders at the time and they supported the proposal with no objection from the clubs.

[Milltown Row2]

It's an iconic cup, and if that's the case that it'll be presented then so be it