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Encouraged by today's performance. Clearly we're not as far on match fitness wise as most if the other teams but we have time to put that right. Confidence is a big thing and today will bring us on a bit. McGrogan and Loughlin will be firing on all cylinders come the Championship. Bradley looks good. We defended a lot better today. Lynch is the only choice for keeper. Murray is on a good trajectory. Fingers crossed Rodgers and McEvoy are OK. We'll give Donegal a good battle in the Championship.

Ran out of steam. Signs of life though.

Tally showing Mickey Harte stubborness levels in still sticking with the  McNicholl GK experiment.

The only reason I can think of is that its against Donegal and he's trying to keep his cards close to his chest. That said, we need to be playing with our best team at this stage. That named team isn't it.

Maybe, but it's about time someone called out Trump on his bullying and lies and insults.
I hope Europe stands up (and statements tonight suggest they will) and makes it clear that Europe will stay the course with Ukraine, even now that America is no longer an ally.

Truth be told America hasn't been an ally for quite some time now. It's time Europe woke up and stands on its own. If anything good comes out if this, it's that Europe will unwind itself from the Americans. Anyone who supports Trump and his motley bunch of clampets, is sick in the head.

Another win to paper over the cracks?

Showed good character to pull it off though

If they weren't playing for the manager they would have capitulated there.

Sadly, you could argue that was the most encouraging performance this year. They definitely got stuck in after the Red card. They are clearly a limited squad but at this stage I'd settle for a good work rate every game.

That's Producers though. Thats not the same as reserves. The Middle East has the biggest oil reserves in the world. Venezuela also has massive reserves.

Donegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!

Buzzer goes on 70mins. Donegal could pointed out to the ref,we still a sideline, but with the score they weren't arguing much.

I can't remember where that sideline was from, but it would still have to be scored directly, as far as I know.

I had a quick look through the rules there and I can't see anything that talks about what happens when time is up, and there is a foul, sideline, kickout or 45. I'll have a closer look tomorrow. MR2, do you know where that's at in the rules?

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

Do you know understand what the discussion is about after having a few goes at it?

I do now that it has been brought into the conversation, but you didn't reference that in your original question, which was:

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

You didn't like my wording (which was poor enough to be fair), and you've been snarky ever since. Lighten up a bit. It's a discussion

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

That says nothing about a sideline ball or kickout, did you not read it?

Was the Armagh point from a sideline after the hooter?

It was.  I think, technically, a sideline is a free kick.  That is why it was allowed.

We are discussing the sideline ball at the end of the Galway Donegal game, if you aren't aware. The kick wasn't allowed to be taken.

And that's the problem, some inconsistencies still, as expected.

Still think too many changes too soon across the board

True.

I think sidelines and kickouts are different than frees (because they are as a result of fouls). At least that's what I was taught whilst refereeing. So if time was up you allowed the free, but it had to be scored directly. For sidelines and kickouts the game was over.

I agree that it's unclear with the current rules. I suspect that much of this will get sorted/refined over the course of the league.

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

How can the game end when the ball is dead and there's a kick still to be taken?

Not at all. The game ends even if the ball is out of play. You can take a free or penalty.

Heres the Official FAQ: https://learning.gaa.ie/FRCFAQ

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So not any contact as deeds was saying but dangerous, cheers

Not any contact to head and neck is deemed dangerous, but the definition of dangerous contact includes any head on head, shoulder on head or elbow on head contact in any tackle attempt

A hand on neck/head  may not be deemed as being dangerous to an opponent

But I think that comes under this bit:

"and any form of neck restraint or interference with the neck and throat area."

So if grab somebody by the neck then that's a Red? But if i accidentally slap someone on the face in the tackle, that's probably not a Red.

I've said this many times, what's dissent for you may not be for me, let the ref decide how dissent over frustration is implemented, I'm long enough in the game to know who's being a p***k

Totally agree. I refereed for 10 plus years myself, and would have been pretty lenient with dissent (mainly because I did a lot of slabbering as a player ).

It's the inconsistency I'm concerned about because it's a pretty harsh penalty. It's going to be difficult for referees to be consistent in the heat of a championship game.

Donegal had no interest or intention of winning that game

I think you're right. I was hoping they'd save that until the Derry game 😀

On a side note, I can see the 50m dissent rule being a shitshow come championship. Already, half of the referees are not implementing it, half of the time.

How can the buzzer go when the ball is dead?

The buzzer goes at 70 mins regardless of where the ball is.