The Many Faces of US Politics...

[heganboy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/22/mccain-hits-trump-where-it-hurts-attacking-bone-spur-deferments-in-vietnam/

[seafoid]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/22/mccain-hits-trump-where-it-hurts-attacking-bone-spur-deferments-in-vietnam/

Mueller also fought in Vietnam

[J70]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/22/mccain-hits-trump-where-it-hurts-attacking-bone-spur-deferments-in-vietnam/

Aah... clever!

I thought you were having autocorrect issues or something!

[johnneycool]

I see some big news breaking about Judge Roy Moore.....why am I not surprised-lol

He's a man of god first, constitution second... apparently.

Louis CK too.

They're dropping by the hour.

I would say Moore is only the first of the politicians (excluding Trump and Clinton and so on!)

This is quite an astounding defence of Moore by the state Auditor and fellow republican, Jim Zeigler who obviously is another religious nut job;

And finally, the piece de resistance:

"Take the Bible — Zachariah and Elizabeth, for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist," Ziegler says, choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. "Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

"There's just nothing immoral or illegal here," Ziegler concluded. "Maybe just a little bit unusual."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/09/this-defense-of-roy-moore-is-amazingly-bad-from-start-to-finish/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.8347ab0223b9

[J70]

I see some big news breaking about Judge Roy Moore.....why am I not surprised-lol

He's a man of god first, constitution second... apparently.

Louis CK too.

They're dropping by the hour.

I would say Moore is only the first of the politicians (excluding Trump and Clinton and so on!)

This is quite an astounding defence of Moore by the state Auditor and fellow republican, Jim Zeigler who obviously is another religious nut job;

And finally, the piece de resistance:

"Take the Bible — Zachariah and Elizabeth, for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist," Ziegler says, choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. "Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

"There's just nothing immoral or illegal here," Ziegler concluded. "Maybe just a little bit unusual."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/09/this-defense-of-roy-moore-is-amazingly-bad-from-start-to-finish/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.8347ab0223b9

Yep, they'll still vote for him. Bible has been used to justify lots of shit, especially in the US South.

[stew]

I see some big news breaking about Judge Roy Moore.....why am I not surprised-lol

He's a man of god first, constitution second... apparently.

Louis CK too.

They're dropping by the hour.

I would say Moore is only the first of the politicians (excluding Trump and Clinton and so on!)

This is quite an astounding defence of Moore by the state Auditor and fellow republican, Jim Zeigler who obviously is another religious nut job;

And finally, the piece de resistance:

"Take the Bible — Zachariah and Elizabeth, for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist," Ziegler says, choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. "Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

"There's just nothing immoral or illegal here," Ziegler concluded. "Maybe just a little bit unusual."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/09/this-defense-of-roy-moore-is-amazingly-bad-from-start-to-finish/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.8347ab0223b9

Yep, they'll still vote for him. Bible has been used to justify lots of shit, especially in the US South.

Yes, Jesus is the reason Trump won.

[johnneycool]

I see some big news breaking about Judge Roy Moore.....why am I not surprised-lol

He's a man of god first, constitution second... apparently.

Louis CK too.

They're dropping by the hour.

I would say Moore is only the first of the politicians (excluding Trump and Clinton and so on!)

This is quite an astounding defence of Moore by the state Auditor and fellow republican, Jim Zeigler who obviously is another religious nut job;

And finally, the piece de resistance:

"Take the Bible — Zachariah and Elizabeth, for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist," Ziegler says, choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. "Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

"There's just nothing immoral or illegal here," Ziegler concluded. "Maybe just a little bit unusual."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/09/this-defense-of-roy-moore-is-amazingly-bad-from-start-to-finish/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.8347ab0223b9

Yep, they'll still vote for him. Bible has been used to justify lots of shit, especially in the US South.

Yes, Jesus is the reason Trump won.

Well he is responsible for everything is he not?

[stew]

I see some big news breaking about Judge Roy Moore.....why am I not surprised-lol

He's a man of god first, constitution second... apparently.

Louis CK too.

They're dropping by the hour.

I would say Moore is only the first of the politicians (excluding Trump and Clinton and so on!)

This is quite an astounding defence of Moore by the state Auditor and fellow republican, Jim Zeigler who obviously is another religious nut job;

And finally, the piece de resistance:

"Take the Bible — Zachariah and Elizabeth, for instance. Zachariah was extremely old to marry Elizabeth and they became the parents of John the Baptist," Ziegler says, choosing his words carefully before invoking Christ. "Also take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus."

"There's just nothing immoral or illegal here," Ziegler concluded. "Maybe just a little bit unusual."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/11/09/this-defense-of-roy-moore-is-amazingly-bad-from-start-to-finish/?tid=pm_politics_pop&utm_term=.8347ab0223b9

Yep, they'll still vote for him. Bible has been used to justify lots of shit, especially in the US South.

Yes, Jesus is the reason Trump won.

Well he is responsible for everything is he not?

In fairness etc.
that makes him responsible for Clinton, corruption in the democratic party and Obamas defecit/givimg up multiples terrorists for the boul traitor Bowe

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Just going to prove they are getting rid of anything Obama ever introduced

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/elephant-trophies-us-restrictions-zimbabwe-zambia/index.html

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Story on Al Franken out now

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

[J70]

Story on Al Franken out now

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

Dirtbag. Just imagine if it was your wife or daughter he was groping and trying to mess around with?

As I said on here last week, Moore is just the beginning when it comes to politicians.

Both sides are going to be very uncomfortable as the stories come out, even though the temptation will be, as always, to make excuses in the light of the bigger picture of political control and whataboutery.

Hopefully a watershed moment for men who think they can behave this way and women who feel they have to put up with it.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

His statement is shit as well - he has to walk

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/16/joseph-stiglitz-trump-fascist-globalisation-bernie-sanders


America is led by a man Stiglitz says should not be in the White House. "He is not fit to be president. He does not have an understanding of the issues, the political process. He is used to making one-time deals. You can cheat your contractors when you buy a real estate property and fix it up. Reputation doesn't matter. For the president of the United States reputation does matter. The reputation of the United States does matter. We are dealing with countries all over the world. They want to know if your word is good. Trump's word is not good."

[haranguerer]

Hold on, that photo is the groping she refers to? It doesn't look like he is groping her to me.

Obviously a dirtbag forcing him to kiss her, but she should have left it at that - it seems like to strengthen her story she clutched at a straw and it does it no favours....

[J70]

Hold on, that photo is the groping she refers to? It doesn't look like he is groping her to me.

Obviously a dirtbag forcing him to kiss her, but she should have left it at that - it seems like to strengthen her story she clutched at a straw and it does it no favours....

Come on, whether he got a handful or not through the flak jacket is irrelevant. Even if he is only simulating, she is still asleep and he is taking liberties.  And he is not a teenager or college student who doesn't know better - he is 55 years old in that photo! Would he stand for someone doing it to his daughter (assuming he has one) or his wife?

Not quite Roy Moore depth of sleaze (which isn't saying much, admittedly), but Franken, unfortunately for him (and possibly the Democrats) has questions to answer given the rubicon which has been crossed over the past couple of months.