The Many Faces of US Politics...

[screenexile]

Good to see he's concentrating on the future of the country anyway with his latest tweet about Schwarzenegger's ratings for the new Apprentice. . .

[foxcommander]

These lives don't matter.

[J70]

Don't complicate stew's resentment and irrationality with facts!

Lol....but they didn't condemn the actions quickly enough

Did they refuse to condemn it at first when given ample opportunity?

Bbbuuuttt they didn't come right out and say it was a hate crime immediately upon finding out about it. That makes them complicit in these actions and they only reacted once they saw the public outrage

If Sharpton or BLM or whoever went on CNN or Fox or otherwise released a statement and prevaricated when asked/talking about this atrocious crime, you'd have a valid comparison to Trump's f**k-up regarding Duke. (And maybe they did - if so, post it).

Otherwise you just come across as engaging in desperate, invalid, whataboutery.

They should immediate and instantaneously condemned this as a hate crime.....let's hold them to the same standard as you guys are holding Trump to. ( and who says Trumpbfvcked up....the voters obviously saw it for what it was.....NONSENSE)

Just because "the voters" elected him (never mind far more voted against him!) doesn't validate his initial refusal to disavow the support of David Duke.

That's like saying the large minority of Americans who are young earth creationists invalidates evolution and an ancient earth.

Facts are independent of popular opinion.

And again, the only thing Trump was rightfully judged upon was his cynical hesitance,m to condemn and disavow the support of David Duke. It wasn't a case that Duke made his statement and Trump waited a few hours before issuing his statement. Trump took four days and several public refusals to disavow before finally seeing the light.

So no, the standards are not the same.

[whitey]

Don't complicate stew's resentment and irrationality with facts!

Lol....but they didn't condemn the actions quickly enough

Did they refuse to condemn it at first when given ample opportunity?

Bbbuuuttt they didn't come right out and say it was a hate crime immediately upon finding out about it. That makes them complicit in these actions and they only reacted once they saw the public outrage

If Sharpton or BLM or whoever went on CNN or Fox or otherwise released a statement and prevaricated when asked/talking about this atrocious crime, you'd have a valid comparison to Trump's f**k-up regarding Duke. (And maybe they did - if so, post it).

Otherwise you just come across as engaging in desperate, invalid, whataboutery.

They should immediate and instantaneously condemned this as a hate crime.....let's hold them to the same standard as you guys are holding Trump to. ( and who says Trumpbfvcked up....the voters obviously saw it for what it was.....NONSENSE)

Just because "the voters" elected him (never mind far more voted against him!) doesn't validate his initial refusal to disavow the support of David Duke.

That's like saying the large minority of Americans who are young earth creationists invalidates evolution and an ancient earth.

Facts are independent of popular opinion.

And again, the only thing Trump was rightfully judged upon was his cynical hesitance,m to condemn and disavow the support of David Duke. It wasn't a case that Duke made his statement and Trump waited a few hours before issuing his statement. Trump took four days and several public refusals to disavow before finally seeing the light.

So no, the standards are not the same.

I think he was kinda busy running for election to be instantaneously issuing public statements and rebuttals  in response to "endorsements" from organizations whose membership numbers tally somewhere between 0.001 and 0.003 % of the US population

And for all I know, maybe Hillarys campaign gave David Duke a bag of cash to make the endorsement, then conspired with the media to gin up a fake controversy .....stranger things have happened

[heganboy]

Whitey,
Is your plan to go tit or tat on race issues in America believing the white folks get a tough time for those nasty black folks?
Not really a great plan is it statistically?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/20/idaho-football-coat-hanger-rape-teammate-john-rk-howard

See where this goes yet?

Make America grate again.

[whitey]

Whitey,
Is your plan to go tit or tat on race issues in America believing the white folks get a tough time for those nasty black folks?
Not really a great plan is it statistically?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/20/idaho-football-coat-hanger-rape-teammate-john-rk-howard

See where this goes yet?

Make America grate again.

No I'm just having a little fun with J70.....there's just as much faux outrage about this incident as  there was about Trumps KKK endorsement

Unfortunately it's a race to the bottom at this point and the media shoulder a lot of the blame

[heganboy]

Unfortunately it's a race to the bottom at this point and the media shoulder a lot of the blame

I agree. Sense went out the window a while ago...

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Donald tweeting out the important news this morning - the ratings of the Apprentice tv show

[J70]

Don't complicate stew's resentment and irrationality with facts!

Lol....but they didn't condemn the actions quickly enough

Did they refuse to condemn it at first when given ample opportunity?

Bbbuuuttt they didn't come right out and say it was a hate crime immediately upon finding out about it. That makes them complicit in these actions and they only reacted once they saw the public outrage

If Sharpton or BLM or whoever went on CNN or Fox or otherwise released a statement and prevaricated when asked/talking about this atrocious crime, you'd have a valid comparison to Trump's f**k-up regarding Duke. (And maybe they did - if so, post it).

Otherwise you just come across as engaging in desperate, invalid, whataboutery.

They should immediate and instantaneously condemned this as a hate crime.....let's hold them to the same standard as you guys are holding Trump to. ( and who says Trumpbfvcked up....the voters obviously saw it for what it was.....NONSENSE)

Just because "the voters" elected him (never mind far more voted against him!) doesn't validate his initial refusal to disavow the support of David Duke.

That's like saying the large minority of Americans who are young earth creationists invalidates evolution and an ancient earth.

Facts are independent of popular opinion.

And again, the only thing Trump was rightfully judged upon was his cynical hesitance,m to condemn and disavow the support of David Duke. It wasn't a case that Duke made his statement and Trump waited a few hours before issuing his statement. Trump took four days and several public refusals to disavow before finally seeing the light.

So no, the standards are not the same.

I think he was kinda busy running for election to be instantaneously issuing public statements and rebuttals  in response to "endorsements" from organizations whose membership numbers tally somewhere between 0.001 and 0.003 % of the US population

And for all I know, maybe Hillarys campaign gave David Duke a bag of cash to make the endorsement, then conspired with the media to gin up a fake controversy .....stranger things have happened

Busy me arse. You know right full well that he did the disavowals on cable and network news over a couple of days and that the reason these right wing extremists were excited about him was down to his immigration and anti-Muslim rhetoric, among the prime drivers of his campaign. And we're not talking some complex policy question here - we're talking about a very simple answer to a question about support emanating from a KKK leader.

[screenexile]

Ah lads it's hilarious reading his Twitter feed this morning.

Mexico will pay for the border "a little later"

Rupert Murdoch is a great guy.

Meryl Streep is one of the most over rated actresses

[johnneycool]

There's going to be books written about his tweeting! He will be a case study in narcissism, pettiness and paranoia that will put Nixon to shame. There is simply nothing he can let go unanswered. How the hell will he be able to focus on important issues like governmental policy and weighing far-reaching decisions as president when he's obsessed with every little thing said about him? If he gets even a fraction of the abuse Obama got, not least from Trump himself, he is going to end up in a psychiatric facility.

Trumps tweets were analysed his lad;

http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/

Turns out the more aggressive tweets are coming from an iphone than the android phone Trump personally uses......

[J70]

There's going to be books written about his tweeting! He will be a case study in narcissism, pettiness and paranoia that will put Nixon to shame. There is simply nothing he can let go unanswered. How the hell will he be able to focus on important issues like governmental policy and weighing far-reaching decisions as president when he's obsessed with every little thing said about him? If he gets even a fraction of the abuse Obama got, not least from Trump himself, he is going to end up in a psychiatric facility.

Trumps tweets were analysed his lad;

http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/

Turns out the more aggressive tweets are coming from an iphone than the android phone Trump personally uses......

Think you're reading that piece wrong - its says the more aggressive stuff is coming from the android used by Trump and the more reasonable stuff from the iphone probably used by a staffer.

"Thus, Trump's Android account uses about 40-80% more words related to disgust, sadness, fear, anger, and other "negative" sentiments than the iPhone account does."

[johnneycool]

There's going to be books written about his tweeting! He will be a case study in narcissism, pettiness and paranoia that will put Nixon to shame. There is simply nothing he can let go unanswered. How the hell will he be able to focus on important issues like governmental policy and weighing far-reaching decisions as president when he's obsessed with every little thing said about him? If he gets even a fraction of the abuse Obama got, not least from Trump himself, he is going to end up in a psychiatric facility.

Trumps tweets were analysed his lad;

http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/

Turns out the more aggressive tweets are coming from an iphone than the android phone Trump personally uses......

Think you're reading that piece wrong - its says the more aggressive stuff is coming from the android used by Trump and the more reasonable stuff from the iphone probably used by a staffer.

"Thus, Trump's Android account uses about 40-80% more words related to disgust, sadness, fear, anger, and other "negative" sentiments than the iPhone account does."

yep,
  Got that one arse about face which scares me even more...

[The Iceman]

Meryl Streep - first off she doesn't know anything about Martial Arts.
Second, how nice of her to show concern for a disable person being made fun of but not a whisper, not a mention from her or anyone else about a disabled white man begin kidnapped, humiliated, video and had a piece of his scalp removed... and all briadcast live on bookface for our viewing pleasure,...
the world is messed up...

[Puckoon]

Meryl Streep - first off she doesn't know anything about Martial Arts.
Second, how nice of her to show concern for a disable person being made fun of but not a whisper, not a mention from her or anyone else about a disabled white man begin kidnapped, humiliated, video and had a piece of his scalp removed... and all briadcast live on bookface for our viewing pleasure,...
the world is messed up...

What an interesting take...

Are you suggesting that she CANNOT comment on THE PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA unless she ALSO comments on what happened last week?

For the record - disgusting crime, from disgusting people.

I'd wager that her commentary did however touch on what happened last week.

"This instinct to humiliate when it's modeled by someone in the public ... by someone powerful, it filters down into everyone's life because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same."