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If any county and it's posters need it's own thread, it's the Rossies. We'll discuss anyone or anything on here. It's only fair to posters from 30 other counties that we leave them in peace on other threads.

Quote from: Shrewdness on November 30, 2015, 01:56:10 PM
If any county and it's posters need it's own thread, it's the Rossies. We'll discuss anyone or anything on here. It's only fair to posters from 30 (?) other counties that we leave them in peace on other threads.

Your aspirations are noble and I sincerely wish you well but somehow or other, I don't think we have seen the last of you on Mayo-related threads.  Either your head count counties is incorrect or you plan to keep getting your ass kicked  over on Mayo discussions.;D

I expect intense discussions about Ballagh-.

I see Geoffrey Claffey is back under the new management. Is he still good enough to be first choice goalie?

Quote from: seafoid on November 30, 2015, 02:53:58 PM
I expect intense discussions about Ballagh-.

I see Geoffrey Claffey is back under the new management. Is he still good enough to be first choice goalie?

NO was never good enough to be first choice goalie even when he was number one there were better options out there. Poor shot stopper and a joke he was even asked back for trails as he hasn't been playing club football last year

Seafoid, i'm not all that convinced that bringing Claffey back is a positive move. He was prone to mistakes, and tbh, i would rate Darren O'Malley as the steadier, safer option of the two. Having said that, he would be an experienced back up.

So the first 2 replies to the new Rossie thread is a rhubarb and a heron choker, you are both very welcome, how about that little bet i offered you lar after you declared you were backing Sligo, or are you like most other rhubarbs a soft centre and all bs chat.
Our new management are looking at many players, we have players that were members of the panel but left under Evans like Claffey etc and lads that were not panel members before like young Glennon from Glaveys. It will take time and it will be championship before we have a settled team, lets hope we can pick up enough points in div 1 to survive during this transition. Some heavy training (not gym work) is being done at the moment and I hear there is a great spirit and goodwill in the camp.
I am fairly sure that team set up and style of play will change, it will take time for both players and management to adjust, booked my hotel for Killarney and Cork this weekend and really looking forward to our div 1 journey.

40 lads training I heard plus others with injuries etc. The 2 lads will have some sorting out to do during the FBD and NFL.
I suspect we'll be relegated but if we have identified and settled our top 20 for the Championship that will not be much of a problem.
I suspect a few sacred cows could be shifted by then.

Delighted to hear that Andrew Glennon is involved. I think he's a player with a lot of potential..

This will be my only contribution to this thread.

Quote from: Shrewdness on November 30, 2015, 11:32:52 PM
Delighted to hear that Andrew Glennon is involved. I think he's a player with a lot of potential..

Andy was on the panel for a while this year. Gary Patterson is a flier for Glaveys too. Hussey was beyond heroic in the Inter final and with his underage pedigree he should get a chance to make the senior panel soon.

Quote from: Rossfan on November 30, 2015, 10:58:10 PM
40 lads training I heard plus others with injuries etc. The 2 lads will have some sorting out to do during the FBD and NFL.
I suspect we'll be relegated but if we have identified and settled our top 20 for the Championship that will not be much of a problem.
I suspect a few sacred cows could be shifted by then.

:o  :o  :o  :o

Please, please, please tell me you mean that some of the older players will be given their P-45's to make way for younger blood?

Quote from: giveballaghback on November 30, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
So the first 2 replies to the new Rossie thread is a rhubarb and a heron choker, you are both very welcome, how about that little bet i offered you lar after you declared you were backing Sligo, or are you like most other rhubarbs a soft centre and all bs chat.
Our new management are looking at many players, we have players that were members of the panel but left under Evans like Claffey etc and lads that were not panel members before like young Glennon from Glaveys. It will take time and it will be championship before we have a settled team, lets hope we can pick up enough points in div 1 to survive during this transition. Some heavy training (not gym work) is being done at the moment and I hear there is a great spirit and goodwill in the camp.
I am fairly sure that team set up and style of play will change, it will take time for both players and management to adjust, booked my hotel for Killarney and Cork this weekend and really looking forward to our div 1 journey.

Normally I wouldn't bother responding as I have a simple rule: Don't feed the trolls. However, just this one time I will.
If I said I back Sligo to back Roscommon, I will put my money where my mouth is. No problem at all with that. It's just that I don't recall saying that or anything remotely resembling it. Now allowing for the probability that English wasn't your first language, I'd like to know what made you feel that I said Sligo will beat Roscommon or anything within an asses' roar of it.
Maybe you would point where I said that.

PS why don't you take the advice Shrewdess gave you and keep this thread devoted to Rossie affairs. Leave off squaring up to Mayo at every opportunity  as it gets you nowhere.

5 points would be enough to stay up. Can Ros beat 2 out of Down, Cork and Monaghan ?

Seafoid, i think we'll definitely be targeting 2 points against those people next door to us when they come to Hyde Park.

MODS, i presume this should be in the general discussion section? Shur Ross have nothing to be talking about when it comes to football.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 01, 2015, 07:30:25 AM
Seafoid, i think we'll definitely be targeting 2 points against those people next door to us when they come to Hyde Park.

Next door? We have our feet up in the west wing of your house... ;)

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 01, 2015, 07:30:25 AM
Seafoid, i think we'll definitely be targeting 2 points against those people next door to us when they come to Hyde Park.

Ye might beat Kerry if ye play them early on. They don't get serious until late Feb anyway

Yep. Kerry are often a good bet for a handy two points, if you play them early enough. They don't go away on their team holiday until the New Year. So by the time they get back, they only have a couple of weeks to train and prep for the league, when other counties have been back training for a month or two.  That rustiness is often reflected in their results in the first few rounds.

Quote from: seafoid on December 01, 2015, 01:13:41 AM
5 points would be enough to stay up. Can Ros beat 2 out of Down, Cork and Monaghan ?

6 points wasn't enough to keep us up last time we were in Division 1.
Then again we won't have to worry about Tommy Joyce kicking a last second 14 yard free wide to allow Dublin and Galway share spoils and stay up and send Ros down
#yedidnthavemuchlucksinceyedirtyfeckinheronchokersthedivilmendye

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
Yep. Kerry are often a good bet for a handy two points, if you play them early enough. They don't go away on their team holiday until the New Year. So by the time they get back, they only have a couple of weeks to train and prep for the league, when other counties have been back training for a month or two.  That rustiness is often reflected in their results in the first few rounds.

They looked fairly 'rusty' in August and September too..

Well, at least they were still playing in August and September.  :P

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 02:09:19 PM
Well, at least they were still playing in August and September.  :P

Mainly thanks to a rigged draw that puts them into the AIQFs every year.

True. Can't argue with you there. Playing a province with only 6 counties and football being the poor relation in 5 of them, helps them a lot too.

Then again, there are only 5 counties* in Connaught. So it's not like Roscommon have the hard slog that Leinster and Ulster counties have, to make the quarter final stage.


*New York and London don't count.

(ducks....)

A nice quality about this thread, is that we can discuss other counties as well, without anyone from those counties complaining about us taking over their threads..Everyone wins.

When did the Leinster champions last have a hard slog to get to the AI QF?
Louth in 2010?

There are 12 counties in Leinster & only 5 in Connaught...so you do the sums.

Beffs, where are you from?

That all depends on the time of the moon, time of the month, time of the year & whatever set of in-laws are within hearing distance.  ;D

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
There are 12 counties in Leinster & only 5 in Connaught...so you do the sums.

3 soft games with winning margins of 15+ points is a soft passage.

actually seven teams play in Connacht, right?

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 01, 2015, 05:12:35 PM
actually seven teams play in Connacht, right?

Yes and although they have been called ducks in here . London are the only team in Connacht to not lose to Mayo every time since five in a row . ( think I'm right there )

Quote from: larryin89 on December 01, 2015, 05:18:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 01, 2015, 05:12:35 PM
actually seven teams play in Connacht, right?

Yes and although they have been called ducks in here . London are the only team in Connacht to not lose to Mayo every time since 2011 and start of five in a row . ( think I'm right there )

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2015, 04:19:31 PM

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
There are 12 counties in Leinster & only 5 in Connaught...so you do the sums.

3 soft games with winning margins of 15+ points is a soft passage.

I presume you are referring to Dublin? Last time I checked, there are 31 other counties.  ;)

Last year, Mayo, Cork & Kerry only had to play ONE game to reach their provincial final.

Westmeath and Donegal had to play THREE games to reach their provincial final.

Explain to me how that is fair, or doesn't hand counties from Munster and Connaught a handy route into the last round of the qualifiers and/or the AI quarter finals?

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 05:48:24 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2015, 04:19:31 PM

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
There are 12 counties in Leinster & only 5 in Connaught...so you do the sums.

3 soft games with winning margins of 15+ points is a soft passage.

I presume you are referring to Dublin? Last time I checked, there are 31 other counties.  ;)

Last year, Mayo, Cork & Kerry only had to play ONE game to reach their provincial final.

Westmeath and Donegal had to play THREE games to reach their provincial final.

Explain to me how that is fair, or doesn't hand counties from Munster and Connaught a handy route into the last round of the qualifiers and/or the AI quarter finals?

No system is perfect but if the best team in the competition wins it , which most of the time it does bar ridiculous refereeing like (14 in Limerick or pat the bollix cheating basta ard in 96) it's pretty fair.

Yeah, but the uneven starting points and uneven number of games, mean that its not a level playing field, when it comes to determining who the best teams actually are.

Take Donegal & Tyrone for example. Both drawn to play the preliminary round in Ulster in something like 4 out of 5 years. Both need to have all their ducks in a row, with all of their player fit and healthy by late May. Whereas Cork and Kerry can sit back and basically scratch their arses until late July, resting older players, giving lads who are rehabbing injuries additional time to recover etc. So by the time August rolls around, they are fit and raring to go.

The Ulster counties don't have that luxury. I'd like to see how many AI quarter finals Cork and Kerry would make (never mind winning the whole thing,) if they started their season that early &  they had to go thru all 4 rounds of the qualifiers on a regular basis.

Abolish ye're feckin Ulster Championship if it's that big a hindrance.
Cork didn't make the Quarters this year ;)

Larry Mayowestros bet London in 2013 .

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
Abolish ye're feckin Ulster Championship if it's that big a hindrance.
Cork didn't make the Quarters this year ;)

Larry Mayowestros bet London in 2013 .

We did surely but that's not what I said . London drew with Mayo in 2011 over in Ruislip and I'm pretty sure that's the only team in Connacht to do so v Mayo since five in a row started hence " the only team to not lose everytime in Connacht to Mayo in said era is London "

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
Abolish ye're feckin Ulster Championship if it's that big a hindrance.
Cork didn't make the Quarters this year ;)

Larry Mayowestros bet London in 2013 .

Ah no. We have to keep the Ulster champo. What else are we going to ring up Joe Duffy to complain about?

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 05:48:24 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2015, 04:19:31 PM

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
There are 12 counties in Leinster & only 5 in Connaught...so you do the sums.

3 soft games with winning margins of 15+ points is a soft passage.

I presume you are referring to Dublin? Last time I checked, there are 31 other counties.  ;)

Last year, Mayo, Cork & Kerry only had to play ONE game to reach their provincial final.

Westmeath and Donegal had to play THREE games to reach their provincial final.

Explain to me how that is fair, or doesn't hand counties from Munster and Connaught a handy route into the last round of the qualifiers and/or the AI quarter finals?

Fine, open draw it is then.

Every first named team gets home advantage.

It would be nice to see your team drawn away to Kerry or Tyrone in May.

Yep. Open draw.

Or just re gig the current provincial format to 4 geographical regions, with 8 counties in each one. North, South, East & West.

Everyone starts their season on the same day.

Problem solved.

( Bagsie not be the one to have to tell one Ulster county (Donegal maybe?) that they aren't in Ulster/Northern region anymore. They are now Men of The Whest ! )

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 05:48:24 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on December 01, 2015, 04:19:31 PM

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 03:41:01 PM
There are 12 counties in Leinster & only 5 in Connaught...so you do the sums.

3 soft games with winning margins of 15+ points is a soft passage.

I presume you are referring to Dublin? Last time I checked, there are 31 other counties.  ;)

Last year, Mayo, Cork & Kerry only had to play ONE game to reach their provincial final.

Westmeath and Donegal had to play THREE games to reach their provincial final.

Explain to me how that is fair, or doesn't hand counties from Munster and Connaught a handy route into the last round of the qualifiers and/or the AI quarter finals?

Dublin had to play NO games to get to the AIQF. the standard of competition in Leinster is abysmal.

What are you talking about? Dublin played 4 games before the AI quarter final.

(That is double what Mayo and Kerry played.)

Or are you trying to be all funny and ironical and stuff?

Right you are.

Well lar where did you say you were backing Sligo? On november 23 on the connacht club thread and I quote, " I will back Sligo to sicken them again in the Connacht semi-final".
My first language is bog latin and I speak a little English but even I can decipher that.
So come on lets get it on, how about a grand and if Ny or Leitrim beat us you win. 

Quote from: giveballaghback on December 01, 2015, 10:34:15 PM
Well lar where did you say you were backing Sligo? On november 23 on the connacht club thread and I quote, " I will back Sligo to sicken them again in the Connacht semi-final".
My first language is bog latin and I speak a little English but even I can decipher that.
So come on lets get it on, how about a grand and if Ny or Leitrim beat us you win.

Lar right now  ;)

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Quote from: giveballaghback on December 01, 2015, 10:34:15 PM
Well lar where did you say you were backing Sligo? On november 23 on the connacht club thread and I quote, " I will back Sligo to sicken them again in the Connacht semi-final".
My first language is bog latin and I speak a little English but even I can decipher that.
So come on lets get it on, how about a grand and if Ny or Leitrim beat us you win.

Dear me.. ;D

Maybe you might care to go back again and quote the full sentence I wrote. I mean the bit before the comma thingy.


Here, I'll save you the bother:

If they don't do well in the forthcoming league, I'll back Sligo to sicken then again in the Connacht semi-final.

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 09:00:52 PM
t? Dublin played 4 games before the AI quarter final.

Who were they against and what were the scores? :-[

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 08:47:14 PM
Yep. Open draw.

Or just re gig the current provincial format to 4 geographical regions, with 8 counties in each one. North, South, East & West.

Everyone starts their season on the same day.

Problem solved.

( Bagsie not be the one to have to tell one Ulster county (Donegal maybe?) that they aren't in Ulster/Northern region anymore. They are now Men of The Whest ! )

No, no.

Open draw is open draw. 32 teams, one hat.

If Kerry are out first and Dublin against them, Killarney it is then.

Quote from: Beffs on December 01, 2015, 04:00:18 PM
That all depends on the time of the moon, time of the month, time of the year & whatever set of in-laws are within hearing distance.  ;D

So you're a female (time of the month) bigamist (whatever set of in-laws)?

How did you vote in the marriage referendum?

So lar chickens out, all bluff, afraid to take on the challenge he offered, well that is fairly typical rhubarb, a line of bs that eventually contradicts itself,sure isn't that super rhubarb Enda the king of bs, would lar be Enda in disguise?
Watch this space.

Quote from: giveballaghback on December 02, 2015, 11:37:00 PM
So lar chickens out, all bluff, afraid to take on the challenge he offered, well that is fairly typical rhubarb, a line of bs that eventually contradicts itself,sure isn't that super rhubarb Enda the king of bs, would lar be Enda in disguise?
Watch this space.

Lar is one proper eejit alright. He should have known better that to respond to anything you write.
You are no addition to the sound Rossies on this board or elsewhere.
I did ask if English was your first language and I had good reason to do so.
Even a genuine jackass wouldn't try what you did and I do apologise in advance to all other jackasses for the unfavourable comparison.

Ahead of Roscommon's championship match in New York next May, i heard a rumour in recent days, and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny it?.. I heard that Galway duo, Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane, have either moved or are moving to New York, and could play for them against Roscommon next May. How likely is this to happen? Any of the Galway posters know anything?

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 03, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Ahead of Roscommon's championship match in New York next May, i heard a rumour in recent days, and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny it?.. I heard that Galway duo, Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane, have either moved or are moving to New York, and could play for them against Roscommon next May. How likely is this to happen? Any of the Galway posters know anything?

Dunnno but that whirring sound is the dynamo on Lar's old bike as he pedals like hell to the bookies before they close.

I heard Lundy was away ok , never seen it mentioned that he'd be togged for New York next summer though. Make no odds to the outcome of that game if that's what you're gettin at , not if they had several county men from Kerry would it make a bit of difference , the training and prep for championship would be nothing like county at home. 

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 03, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Ahead of Roscommon's championship match in New York next May, i heard a rumour in recent days, and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny it?.. I heard that Galway duo, Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane, have either moved or are moving to New York, and could play for them against Roscommon next May. How likely is this to happen? Any of the Galway posters know anything?

Was on the main GAA website.
https://www.gaa.ie/gaa-news-and-videos/daily-news/1/2511150758-blow-for-galway-as-lundy-and-duane-head-for-us/

Nicky Joyce was suppose to tog out for NY a few years ago. County players in NY seem to think it is below them to play for NY . Or just realise the gap in standard and want to avoid the embarrassment.

I've always said that if a sugar daddy got involved with London, they got their stadium (built and) sorted with floodlights and extras. They could poach some handy players from weaker counties and give a connacht title and AI a rattle.

Quote from: larryin89 on December 03, 2015, 06:34:39 PM
I heard Lundy was away ok , never seen it mentioned that he'd be togged for New York next summer though. Make no odds to the outcome of that game if that's what you're gettin at , not if they had several county men from Kerry would it make a bit of difference , the training and prep for championship would be nothing like county at home.

..

No larry, I wasn`t getting at anything.

Thanks for the compliments and your kink remarks lar, dont be offering any more bets you are afraid to stand over.
Lundy and Duane gone to NY all right and may not be back for the league or championship, will be a big loss to the Galway panel if that is the case. Dont know about them playing for Ny.

I`d say you`ll see them both in the Galway jersey next Summer.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 03, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Ahead of Roscommon's championship match in New York next May, i heard a rumour in recent days, and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny it?.. I heard that Galway duo, Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane, have either moved or are moving to New York, and could play for them against Roscommon next May. How likely is this to happen? Any of the Galway posters know anything?

They are both gone already. Duane went a while back. Lundy went after the Connacht final. By all accounts they won't be available to Galway next year and plan on playing for New York. Whether that changes between now and then who knows?

Lundy probably needed the break. He seemed a bit burnt out this year for both club and county compared to his 2014 performances. Big loss to Galway right enough especially on his 2014 form.

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 04, 2015, 01:15:30 AM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 03, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Ahead of Roscommon's championship match in New York next May, i heard a rumour in recent days, and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny it?.. I heard that Galway duo, Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane, have either moved or are moving to New York, and could play for them against Roscommon next May. How likely is this to happen? Any of the Galway posters know anything?

They are both gone already. Duane went a while back. Lundy went after the Connacht final. By all accounts they won't be available to Galway next year and plan on playing for New York. Whether that changes between now and then who knows?

Lundy probably needed the break. He seemed a bit burnt out this year for both club and county compared to his 2014 performances. Big loss to Galway right enough especially on his 2014 form.

Knowing how these things work this will be the season ye beat Mayo. We might be treated to a proper footballing Connacht final for a change.

Also heard that O`Griafa could miss a lot of next year through injury. Looks like it will be down to us
to knock Mayo off their perch.

Quote from: Syferus on December 04, 2015, 01:30:18 AM

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 04, 2015, 01:15:30 AM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 03, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
Ahead of Roscommon's championship match in New York next May, i heard a rumour in recent days, and was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny it?.. I heard that Galway duo, Micheal Lundy and Johnny Duane, have either moved or are moving to New York, and could play for them against Roscommon next May. How likely is this to happen? Any of the Galway posters know anything?

They are both gone already. Duane went a while back. Lundy went after the Connacht final. By all accounts they won't be available to Galway next year and plan on playing for New York. Whether that changes between now and then who knows?

Lundy probably needed the break. He seemed a bit burnt out this year for both club and county compared to his 2014 performances. Big loss to Galway right enough especially on his 2014 form.

Knowing how these things work this will be the season ye beat Mayo. We might be treated to a proper footballing Connacht final for a change.

Man! Galway v Sligo will be a sh1te game in a near empty Hyde :-[

Arra, they won't even bother taking the sheep off the pitch. ;D

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 04, 2015, 07:19:00 AM
Also heard that O`Griafa could miss a lot of next year through injury. Looks like it will be down to us
to knock Mayo off their perch.

Did his cruciate for the 3rd time.

How do these amateur sportsmen keep coming back from these serious injuries? That's awful tough luck on O'Griafa to suffer that injury for a third time.

Quote from: giveballaghback on December 03, 2015, 09:36:06 PM
Thanks for the compliments and your kink remarks lar, dont be offering any more bets you are afraid to stand over.
Lundy and Duane gone to NY all right and may not be back for the league or championship, will be a big loss to the Galway panel if that is the case. Dont know about them playing for Ny.

You know what GBB,  I've had time to do a bit of thinking and maybe I got personal in one of my posts to you. I don't generally go in for personal abuse but a few have pointed out to me that I accused you of not having the brains of a jackass.
That's not civilised debating by any manner or means and given that it's Christmas time maybe we should stop being personal and get on better together in the New Year. If you took that meaning out of what I said, I'll withdraw it without a bother.
What say you? Will we be nicer to each other from now on?

If I didn`t know better Lar, I`d say that you`ve had a rap across the
knuckles from the Mods.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 06, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
If I didn`t know better Lar, I`d say that you`ve had a rap across the
knuckles from the Mods.

Arra, great to see you back on your own thread!
No mods were hurt in the making of that last post- just a period of profound reflection and a desire not to sink to street level when having  a discussion with someone who doesn't share my views. I got my standards y'know.
I am a Mayo man after all. ;D

Well lar I dont take anything that is said on these threads personally, its just a distraction from the troubles of the real world and thank God for the Rossies and yereselves and all our other neighbours and the gaa that we have sport to vent a little without doing any harm. Anyone taking this bit of crack seriously needs to have a look at themselves.
Apology accepted but there wasn't anything to apologise for, but remember if you step out of line I will be down on you like a ton of bricks. Now dont be going soft on me, hammer me if I step out of line. :) 

Quote from: giveballaghback on December 06, 2015, 07:51:03 PM
Well lar I dont take anything that is said on these threads personally, its just a distraction from the troubles of the real world and thank God for the Rossies and yereselves and all our other neighbours and the gaa that we have sport to vent a little without doing any harm. Anyone taking this bit of crack seriously needs to have a look at themselves.
Apology accepted but there wasn't anything to apologise for, but remember if you step out of line I will be down on you like a ton of bricks. Now dont be going soft on me, hammer me if I step out of line. :)

Well, if you insist... ;D

We both agree that' is wrong to say that you don't have the brains of a jackass so the only conclusion is that you do!
Good to see that we can agree on something. ;D
But all the same I'll wish you and the Rossies all the best for Christmas and the New Year.
Don't take it to heart Heewhaw, Lar been around for a long, long time!!

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 04, 2015, 01:07:00 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 04, 2015, 07:19:00 AM
Also heard that O`Griafa could miss a lot of next year through injury. Looks like it will be down to us
to knock Mayo off their perch.

Did his cruciate for the 3rd time.

Gee that is tough going.

Here's hoping for a great 2016 for Roscommon football.
Hope the hurly crowd do well too.

As for Mayowestros - may Rochford, McEntee and their busload of assistants bring them a repeat of 2010 :-*

Re the debate going on about Diarmuid O` Connor on a different thread, he certainly
wouldn`t have the talent of Ultan Harney or Diarmuid Murtagh.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 06, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Re the debate going on about Diarmuid O` Connor on a different thread, he certainly
wouldn`t have the talent of Ultan Harney or Diarmuid Murtagh.

Know what? This is great craic!
I haven't laughed as much since I last saw Mrs. Brown. Rossies in fantasy mode would put any real comedian to shame. ;D

 ;D

Good man lar, you are going well now, all your good wishes are returned and lets hope we can up the anti in the new year when the fun starts. Good betting man that you are what odds are you giving against the Rossies retaining that wonderful fbd trophy or are you still afraid, a jackass like me would put money on anything. Or are you you all bluff .......... ;D

Lar, O'Connor wouldn't score the goal that Enda Smith scored in Cavan. A solo effort from just inside the Cavan half. A hugely talented young player, and a big player of the future.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 06, 2015, 10:04:08 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 06, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Re the debate going on about Diarmuid O` Connor on a different thread, he certainly
wouldn`t have the talent of Ultan Harney or Diarmuid Murtagh.

Know what? This is great craic!
I haven't laughed as much since I last saw Mrs. Brown. Rossies in fantasy mode would put any real comedian to shame. ;D

You're the one in fantasy mode bud if you think O'Connor is even half the player the above two mentioned are. He wouldn't lace their boots. He wouldn't make the Ros starting team and to think otherwise you are either a chronic heroin addict whos goofin off or a downer

Quote from: Shannoncider on December 07, 2015, 09:21:54 AM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 06, 2015, 10:04:08 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 06, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
Re the debate going on about Diarmuid O` Connor on a different thread, he certainly
wouldn`t have the talent of Ultan Harney or Diarmuid Murtagh.

Know what? This is great craic!
I haven't laughed as much since I last saw Mrs. Brown. Rossies in fantasy mode would put any real comedian to shame. ;D

You're the one in fantasy mode bud if you think O'Connor is even half the player the above two mentioned are. He wouldn't lace their boots. He wouldn't make the Ros starting team and to think otherwise you are either a chronic heroin addict whos goofin off or a downer

This is getting better and better; keep it up. You're the sort oof laitcheko Tom Kennedy had in mind. ;D

Who the holy f**k is Tom Kennedy.  He's getting more mentions from you than Enda Kenny,  Lar.

He's some publican who must have given Lar a pint on the house wance up a time fadó fadó.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:55:55 AM
Lar, O'Connor wouldn't score the goal that Enda Smith scored in Cavan. A solo effort from just inside the Cavan half. A hugely talented young player, and a big player of the future.

We are not comparing like with like.No doubt Smith is talented  but would he step out onto the pitch in Croke Park, in front of 85,000 spectators and give a MOTM display?   
Not only that, would he turn up for the next game and repeated his performance?   Prior to his displays in the semi, he had a couple of very good games in the earlier championship games so he didn't get his YPOTY award because he hit it lucky in any particular game.     
Furthermore, he won the mayoggablog poll for POTY comfortably. Here he was in contention with AOS, Lee Keegan and the likes. I mean his achievements have been judged by others and he has come up trumps.
I'm not knocking Smith but he's a long, long way to go before we'll be able to judge his true worth. 
Ross v Cavan in Breffni Park isn't quite the same as Ross v Dublin in front of a packed stadium in Croke Park. 

Quote from: Syferus on December 07, 2015, 09:56:30 AM
Who the holy f**k is Tom Kennedy.  He's getting more mentions from you than Enda Kenny,  Lar.

Tom was the owner of Kennedys in Drumcondra, one of the most popular GAA pubs in the Capital.
Shrewdness  asked a question; why had Mayo a "thing" about Roscommon and I told him what TK once told me. Jaysus, the Oxo hit the fan.
I mentioned him because he couldn't be regarded as a Mayo man and he had been dealing with football fans from all over Ireland for many, many years.  I only gave a sanitised version of what he told me or some of ye buckos would have pissed yerselves.
I pointed out that Tom felt all counties had their corps of bowsies but Ross had some particularly ones. You'd think I had accused all Rossies from the time of Queen Maedbh of sheep shagging or worse with the amount of abuse I got.
I've had direct experience of Ross thickos in action.
Last time we met in Connacht Final, I had my nephew and his son along with me.
Kiod went off to the jacks after the game. His dad and I followed dhim and found four or five brave Rossie warriors ganging up on a 12 year old kid just because he spoke with a Birmingham accent and wore a Mayo jersey. Poor kid was in tears. Some thick ears and  a few sore holes later, the young fellow told us these so-called Rossie fans, all about 17-18, followed him into the jacks and were pushing and tormenting him when his dad and I arrived.
Would you condone that type of carry-on or feel they were  genuine Rossie supporters?

No Lar, that was unacceptable behaviour to that lad, and i'd like to think that any genuine Ros supporters who would have encountered that situation, would have dealt with the perpetrators. Be assured Lar, we're not all like those yobs that you saw.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:47:41 AM

Quote from: Syferus on December 07, 2015, 09:56:30 AM
Who the holy f**k is Tom Kennedy.  He's getting more mentions from you than Enda Kenny,  Lar.

Tom was the owner of Kennedys in Drumcondra, one of the most popular GAA pubs in the Capital.
Shrewdness  asked a question; why had Mayo a "thing" about Roscommon and I told him what TK once told me. Jaysus, the Oxo hit the fan.
I mentioned him because he couldn't be regarded as a Mayo man and he had been dealing with football fans from all over Ireland for many, many years.  I only gave a sanitised version of what he told me or some of ye buckos would have pissed yerselves.
I pointed out that Tom felt all counties had their corps of bowsies but Ross had some particularly ones. You'd think I had accused all Rossies from the time of Queen Maedbh of sheep shagging or worse with the amount of abuse I got.
I've had direct experience of Ross thickos in action.
Last time we met in Connacht Final, I had my nephew and his son along with me.
Kiod went off to the jacks after the game. His dad and I followed dhim and found four or five brave Rossie warriors ganging up on a 12 year old kid just because he spoke with a Birmingham accent and wore a Mayo jersey. Poor kid was in tears. Some thick ears and  a few sore holes later, the young fellow told us these so-called Rossie fans, all about 17-18, followed him into the jacks and were pushing and tormenting him when his dad and I arrived.
Would you condone that type of carry-on or feel they were  genuine Rossie supporters?

Not all Rossies are like that every county has there bad eggs, I can remember watching a match not so long ago when a big fat baldy fcuker from mayo tried to attack the referee after the game, Totally unacceptable behaviour also

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:47:41 AM

Quote from: Syferus on December 07, 2015, 09:56:30 AM
Who the holy f**k is Tom Kennedy.  He's getting more mentions from you than Enda Kenny,  Lar.

Tom was the owner of Kennedys in Drumcondra, one of the most popular GAA pubs in the Capital.
Shrewdness  asked a question; why had Mayo a "thing" about Roscommon and I told him what TK once told me. Jaysus, the Oxo hit the fan.
I mentioned him because he couldn't be regarded as a Mayo man and he had been dealing with football fans from all over Ireland for many, many years.  I only gave a sanitised version of what he told me or some of ye buckos would have pissed yerselves.
I pointed out that Tom felt all counties had their corps of bowsies but Ross had some particularly ones. You'd think I had accused all Rossies from the time of Queen Maedbh of sheep shagging or worse with the amount of abuse I got.
I've had direct experience of Ross thickos in action.
Last time we met in Connacht Final, I had my nephew and his son along with me.
Kiod went off to the jacks after the game. His dad and I followed dhim and found four or five brave Rossie warriors ganging up on a 12 year old kid just because he spoke with a Birmingham accent and wore a Mayo jersey. Poor kid was in tears. Some thick ears and  a few sore holes later, the young fellow told us these so-called Rossie fans, all about 17-18, followed him into the jacks and were pushing and tormenting him when his dad and I arrived.
Would you condone that type of carry-on or feel they were  genuine Rossie supporters?

Would you please stop posting utter the utter shite of personal anecdotes and equating it to a county's entire support. You're on the Earth long enough not to be that dumb Lar. Past a joke with the above. Totally over the line.

Quote from: Shannoncider on December 07, 2015, 03:14:13 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:47:41 AM

Quote from: Syferus on December 07, 2015, 09:56:30 AM
Who the holy f**k is Tom Kennedy.  He's getting more mentions from you than Enda Kenny,  Lar.

Tom was the owner of Kennedys in Drumcondra, one of the most popular GAA pubs in the Capital.
Shrewdness  asked a question; why had Mayo a "thing" about Roscommon and I told him what TK once told me. Jaysus, the Oxo hit the fan.
I mentioned him because he couldn't be regarded as a Mayo man and he had been dealing with football fans from all over Ireland for many, many years.  I only gave a sanitised version of what he told me or some of ye buckos would have pissed yerselves.
I pointed out that Tom felt all counties had their corps of bowsies but Ross had some particularly ones. You'd think I had accused all Rossies from the time of Queen Maedbh of sheep shagging or worse with the amount of abuse I got.
I've had direct experience of Ross thickos in action.
Last time we met in Connacht Final, I had my nephew and his son along with me.
Kiod went off to the jacks after the game. His dad and I followed dhim and found four or five brave Rossie warriors ganging up on a 12 year old kid just because he spoke with a Birmingham accent and wore a Mayo jersey. Poor kid was in tears. Some thick ears and  a few sore holes later, the young fellow told us these so-called Rossie fans, all about 17-18, followed him into the jacks and were pushing and tormenting him when his dad and I arrived.
Would you condone that type of carry-on or feel they were  genuine Rossie supporters?

Not all Rossies are like that every county has there bad eggs, I can remember watching a match not so long ago when a big fat baldy fcuker from mayo tried to attack the referee after the game, Totally unacceptable behaviour also

The utter shite, as you describe it was in response to a rather OTT post from one of your own. I don't start heckling matches- although generally willing to keep one going.
I pointed out in the first Tom Kennedy post that neitherTom nor I would put Roscommon on top of his list and that all counties had their agricultural element. The reaction was predictable, irrational and personal- and completely missed my point.
I never claimed either that the incident I mentioned in my last post summed up all Rossies- I have gone out of my way repeatedly to emphasise that. Mayo has its own share.
BTW I could have mentioned quite a few other similar incidents but I don't see any point in doing so as I have nothing to prove.
Don't be in such bad humour Syf; life is passing by and you could well be left behind. Your good self is no mean hand at stirring things up and you can include another few Rossies in that also.

Arra Lar will ya start actin yer age and don't mind Syfín. :-[

Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
Arra Lar will ya start actin yer age and don't mind Syfín. :-[

I know, I know but every once in a while, I just get the urge to have a biteen of craic and today is one hell of a lousy day and I can't even  put the dog out; the ignorant hoor just bared his teeth and growled when I pointed ayt the door. So what else could a body do?? :D

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 05:08:39 PM

Quote from: Shannoncider on December 07, 2015, 03:14:13 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:47:41 AM

Quote from: Syferus on December 07, 2015, 09:56:30 AM
Who the holy f**k is Tom Kennedy.  He's getting more mentions from you than Enda Kenny,  Lar.

Tom was the owner of Kennedys in Drumcondra, one of the most popular GAA pubs in the Capital.
Shrewdness  asked a question; why had Mayo a "thing" about Roscommon and I told him what TK once told me. Jaysus, the Oxo hit the fan.
I mentioned him because he couldn't be regarded as a Mayo man and he had been dealing with football fans from all over Ireland for many, many years.  I only gave a sanitised version of what he told me or some of ye buckos would have pissed yerselves.
I pointed out that Tom felt all counties had their corps of bowsies but Ross had some particularly ones. You'd think I had accused all Rossies from the time of Queen Maedbh of sheep shagging or worse with the amount of abuse I got.
I've had direct experience of Ross thickos in action.
Last time we met in Connacht Final, I had my nephew and his son along with me.
Kiod went off to the jacks after the game. His dad and I followed dhim and found four or five brave Rossie warriors ganging up on a 12 year old kid just because he spoke with a Birmingham accent and wore a Mayo jersey. Poor kid was in tears. Some thick ears and  a few sore holes later, the young fellow told us these so-called Rossie fans, all about 17-18, followed him into the jacks and were pushing and tormenting him when his dad and I arrived.
Would you condone that type of carry-on or feel they were  genuine Rossie supporters?

Not all Rossies are like that every county has there bad eggs, I can remember watching a match not so long ago when a big fat baldy fcuker from mayo tried to attack the referee after the game, Totally unacceptable behaviour also

The utter shite, as you describe it was in response to a rather OTT post from one of your own. I don't start heckling matches- although generally willing to keep one going.
I pointed out in the first Tom Kennedy post that neitherTom nor I would put Roscommon on top of his list and that all counties had their agricultural element. The reaction was predictable, irrational and personal- and completely missed my point.
I never claimed either that the incident I mentioned in my last post summed up all Rossies- I have gone out of my way repeatedly to emphasise that. Mayo has its own share.
BTW I could have mentioned quite a few other similar incidents but I don't see any point in doing so as I have nothing to prove.
Don't be in such bad humour Syf; life is passing by and you could well be left behind. Your good self is no mean hand at stirring things up and you can include another few Rossies in that also.

I don't come on here every time I see a Mayo lad acting the maggot relaying it blow-by-blow and I could do it plenty if I wanted. A story like the above is just muddying the water whatever way you try to re-frame it. Your post ended with a loaded question ffs Lar.

You have nothing left to prove because there was nothing you could prove to begin with. A few bad apples never equal a reflection of any team or county's supporters.

Lar, describing rowdy Ros supporters as `` agricultural `` is unfortunate, as the agricultural
community (which includes yours truly), are the finest people you could meet anywhere. But
I think I know what you meant.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 05:48:11 PM
Lar, describing rowdy Ros supporters as `` agricultural `` is unfortunate, as the agricultural
community (which includes yours truly), are the finest people you could meet anywhere. But
I think I know what you meant.

You are right; there was no intention to insult farmers. I come from a small farm in East Mayo where there were at times more dinner times than dinners and devil the harm it did me. I was just, subconsciously perhaps, repeating the term used by TK when speaking to me and I think he had a definite incident in mind when he said that.

Shrewdness could you please change the title of this thread to the Roscommon v Mayo bullshit thread

Thanks

Slow season I suppose

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:24:32 AM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:55:55 AM
Lar, O'Connor wouldn't score the goal that Enda Smith scored in Cavan. A solo effort from just inside the Cavan half. A hugely talented young player, and a big player of the future.

We are not comparing like with like.No doubt Smith is talented  but would he step out onto the pitch in Croke Park, in front of 85,000 spectators and give a MOTM display?   
Not only that, would he turn up for the next game and repeated his performance?   Prior to his displays in the semi, he had a couple of very good games in the earlier championship games so he didn't get his YPOTY award because he hit it lucky in any particular game.     
Furthermore, he won the mayoggablog poll for POTY comfortably. Here he was in contention with AOS, Lee Keegan and the likes. I mean his achievements have been judged by others and he has come up trumps.
I'm not knocking Smith but he's a long, long way to go before we'll be able to judge his true worth. 
Ross v Cavan in Breffni Park isn't quite the same as Ross v Dublin in front of a packed stadium in Croke Park.

Again its posts like this that a young lad like DOC could do without. First semi final Cillian O Connor was man of the match and I feel a few are going a little OTT with DOC performance in the replay so much so that it was enough for him to be voted the player of the year on the mayogaablog however if one was to judge the calender year I think AOS,Keegan,Parsons had a better year than DOC.

Scoring is one thing DOC has to improve on, between FBD,NFL and championship he only scored 0-9 to put that scoring into context a overlooked Adam Gallagher scored 0-9 in one game for Mayo last year.

That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

But they still have to do it on the big stage , we know better than most forwards who can shoot the lights out in Connacht and even in quarters and semis (yer bucks haven't even won a fookin Connacht for crying out loud ) but went missing on the biggest day of them all and this has cast a shadow on how good they actually were ,Conor Mortimer being the best example.

Like I have said before these guys you mention look like they have potential but there first test as such was this years championship and v Sligo ye were brutal despite all the hype where as we just went and blitzed the same Sligo team a few weeks later . Now you can gloss over that with all the ifs and buts you want but that is pretty much fact of the matter stuff . The coming year will be a big test for this Roscommon team , for your sake they'd want to show up and strut their stuff but I still believe ye are making a lot of assumptions about a particular crop . Time will tell though and ffs ye must be sick of this continuos repetitive Mayo / Ross shite as the Sligo buck above put it . Give it a rest now , yer creating a false image of a rivalry that's not even lively anymore these past few years because truthfully we have moved into a different level in the modern era.

Quote from: larryin89 on December 07, 2015, 09:30:26 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

But they still have to do it on the big stage , we know better than most forwards who can shoot the lights out in Connacht and even in quarters and semis (yer bucks haven't even won a fookin Connacht for crying out loud ) but went missing on the biggest day of them all and this has cast a shadow on how good they actually were ,Conor Mortimer being the best example.

Emlyn Mulligan is arguably the best forward in Connacht but he will likely retire without a Connacht medal or get the chance to showcase his skills in the business end of championship. Now that would be different story if he played for Mayo and he would probably have a few all stars to his name by now.

Quote from: Blowitupref on December 07, 2015, 09:59:16 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on December 07, 2015, 09:30:26 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

But they still have to do it on the big stage , we know better than most forwards who can shoot the lights out in Connacht and even in quarters and semis (yer bucks haven't even won a fookin Connacht for crying out loud ) but went missing on the biggest day of them all and this has cast a shadow on how good they actually were ,Conor Mortimer being the best example.

Emlyn Mulligan is arguably the best forward in Connacht but he will likely retire without a Connacht medal or get the chance to showcase his skills in the business end of championship. Now that would be different story if he played for Mayo and he would probably have a few all stars to his name by now.

I don't agree tbh that he is anywhere near the best forward in Connacht , a decent forward yes. I see what you're getting at of course ,the aul Declan Browne of tipp type argument and what if he were born in Kerry etc. There is merit to this spin but it's not as black and white either .

The Roscommon buckeens don't just say they have one decent forward either and you have taken this particular discussion  out of context in that sense , they maintain they have a bus load of forwards who could dander up to mchale park and waltz their way onto the Mayo team in theory because of their outstanding brilliance in comparison to our bucks . Which is a complete load of bollix and when we reflect on this Mayo team in the years after only then will it dawn on some how magnificent our lads have been.

But in the meantime we are just expected to take it on the chin how a five in a row provincial winning team are so bloody ordinary and our forwards are second best to a set of forwards who couldn't bate Sligo in this years championship . Honestly , would ye ever just fookoff and lets see how good your boys are in castlebar next July if we both make it to CF , what if we make an absolute c u nt of them again , are they still going to be rated highly in here but nowhere else in the world ?

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 05:35:48 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on December 07, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
Arra Lar will ya start actin yer age and don't mind Syfín. :-[

I know, I know but every once in a while, I just get the urge to have a biteen of craic and today is one hell of a lousy day and I can't even  put the dog out; the ignorant hoor just bared his teeth and growled when I pointed ayt the door. So what else could a body do?? :D

Can he play in the full back line?

Quote from: larryin89 on December 07, 2015, 10:21:49 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on December 07, 2015, 09:59:16 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on December 07, 2015, 09:30:26 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

But they still have to do it on the big stage , we know better than most forwards who can shoot the lights out in Connacht and even in quarters and semis (yer bucks haven't even won a fookin Connacht for crying out loud ) but went missing on the biggest day of them all and this has cast a shadow on how good they actually were ,Conor Mortimer being the best example.

Emlyn Mulligan is arguably the best forward in Connacht but he will likely retire without a Connacht medal or get the chance to showcase his skills in the business end of championship. Now that would be different story if he played for Mayo and he would probably have a few all stars to his name by now.

I don't agree tbh that he is anywhere near the best forward in Connacht , a decent forward yes. I see what you're getting at of course ,the aul Declan Browne of tipp type argument and what if he were born in Kerry etc. There is merit to this spin but it's not as black and white either .

You need to watch Mulligan a bit closer if you form that opinion. Declan Browne was one of the best forwards I have seen if I were to pick the best 15 of my lifetime Browne would be on that team.

Lesser teams also have some top players and I think this is something you will need to understand.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

This is all going nowhere as my erudite colleague , Larry, has more or less stated. We can argue all day and night but it's a case of preaching to the converted and nothing else.
Realistically, the championships to begin before even having this type of discussion argument. And when the respective teams have finished their run, we can then compare like with like- not that I have any particular interest in doing so.
This is just my opinion mind you, but it seems to me that I can pick up a bit of envy on your side of the mearing fence."Okay, wye have yer 5-in-a-row but we are the FBD champions and we have the best young players in the county and yer man who got YPOTY would get a smell in here as we have at least three that are better by miles than he is." s
That may be a bit exaggerated but not by much.
As I said to you earlier, you must compare like with like; DOC scores less that any of your three lads. ERgo, he's not as good as any of them and he was crap in the Sigerson also.etec.
That's not like with like- not by a long shot.
Supposing Smith or Harney or Smith (I got them all right?) faced the likes of the Dublin n front of a full house, would any of them shoot the lights out?
No way can a Sigerson game or a back door match against a mediocre team compare to that.
Anyway, I couldn't give a damn really. What's done is done and I'm looking ahead to next year and we'll see what it brings.

(BTW, I know all Rossies don't behave like the gobshites in the jacks that I mentioned. I thought I had gone to great pains to point that out and that all counties have their quota. But I was being told that the likes of this never happened.. and this was just one example to put a lie to that. I know far more decent Rossies than rogue ones and that's for sure. Tell Syf to calm down and not to let Rossfan bother him so much. ;D)

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:57:25 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

This is all going nowhere as my erudite colleague , Larry, has more or less stated. We can argue all day and night but it's a case of preaching to the converted and nothing else.
Realistically, the championships to begin before even having this type of discussion argument. And when the respective teams have finished their run, we can then compare like with like- not that I have any particular interest in doing so.
This is just my opinion mind you, but it seems to me that I can pick up a bit of envy on your side of the mearing fence."Okay, wye have yer 5-in-a-row but we are the FBD champions and we have the best young players in the county and yer man who got YPOTY would get a smell in here as we have at least three that are better by miles than he is." s
That may be a bit exaggerated but not by much.
As I said to you earlier, you must compare like with like; DOC scores less that any of your three lads. ERgo, he's not as good as any of them and he was crap in the Sigerson also.etec.
That's not like with like- not by a long shot.
Supposing Smith or Harney or Smith (I got them all right?) faced the likes of the Dublin n front of a full house, would any of them shoot the lights out?
No way can a Sigerson game or a back door match against a mediocre team compare to that.
Anyway, I couldn't give a damn really. What's done is done and I'm looking ahead to next year and we'll see what it brings.

(BTW, I know all Rossies don't behave like the gobshites in the jacks that I mentioned. I thought I had gone to great pains to point that out and that all counties have their quota. But I was being told that the likes of this never happened.. and this was just one example to put a lie to that. I know far more decent Rossies than rogue ones and that's for sure. Tell Syf to calm down and not to let Rossfan bother him so much. ;D)

*Vast majority.

Lar, it`s actually Smith, Harney and Murtagh I was referring to. Should be pointed out that Murtagh
played against Sligo despite failing a fitness test, came on against Cavan and scored two
points when clearly not fit, and as a result, missed the Fermanagh defeat, as did Senan Kilbride.

Quote from: Syferus on December 07, 2015, 11:44:52 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 07, 2015, 10:57:25 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 07, 2015, 07:19:47 PM
That backs up my posts above about Harney, Murtagh and Smith who are all free scoring players. I genuinely wouldn't swap any of them for O' Connor or any young player from Mayo or elsewhere.

This is all going nowhere as my erudite colleague , Larry, has more or less stated. We can argue all day and night but it's a case of preaching to the converted and nothing else.
Realistically, the championships to begin before even having this type of discussion argument. And when the respective teams have finished their run, we can then compare like with like- not that I have any particular interest in doing so.
This is just my opinion mind you, but it seems to me that I can pick up a bit of envy on your side of the mearing fence."Okay, wye have yer 5-in-a-row but we are the FBD champions and we have the best young players in the county and yer man who got YPOTY would get a smell in here as we have at least three that are better by miles than he is." s
That may be a bit exaggerated but not by much.
As I said to you earlier, you must compare like with like; DOC scores less that any of your three lads. ERgo, he's not as good as any of them and he was crap in the Sigerson also.etec.
That's not like with like- not by a long shot.
Supposing Smith or Harney or Smith (I got them all right?) faced the likes of the Dublin n front of a full house, would any of them shoot the lights out?
No way can a Sigerson game or a back door match against a mediocre team compare to that.
Anyway, I couldn't give a damn really. What's done is done and I'm looking ahead to next year and we'll see what it brings.

(BTW, I know all Rossies don't behave like the gobshites in the jacks that I mentioned. I thought I had gone to great pains to point that out and that all counties have their quota. But I was being told that the likes of this never happened.. and this was just one example to put a lie to that. I know far more decent Rossies than rogue ones and that's for sure. Tell Syf to calm down and not to let Rossfan bother him so much. ;D)

*Vast majority.

C'mon Syf and stop throwing yer rattle outa yer pram. ;D
You bolded the word all and changed it to vast majority to make a point but how come you didn't have anything to say about " I know far more decent Rossies than rogue ones and that's for sure?"
Where's the difference between that and your "vast majority."
My guess is that you didn't read my post through before responding to an insult that just wasn't there.

What are Roscommon fans genuine expectations for next year to class 2016 a successful tenure under the new management or bottom line targets which the management must achieve to keep their jobs for 2017?



My genuine expectations would be to perform in most league games and hopefully avoiding relegation.

Getting to a Connacht final and hopefully putting in a performance to be there or there abouts at the final whistle.

If entering the qualifiers (at whatever stage) that we try to make the last eight.

That the management instil some sort of tactical approach or game plan that the squad buy into and work on that makes us a bloody hard team to beat.

That some of this young talent that has been getting to the latter stages of Minor and U21 championships over the last few years steps up to the plate at Senior level.

Bottom line targets
Win at least three championship games (at least 1 in Connacht)
Win two home league games

Yellowbus, you've covered it well enough there. Nobody is under any illusions in Roscommon about how difficult Division 1 will be.. But, imo, there are several winnable games for us. The bottom line must be to be competitive......As for the championship, it is imperative that we beat New York, Leitrim And Sligo. We Must get to the Connacht Final, probably against Mayo. We must leave no stone unturned to give them the mother and father of a battle. If that's still not good enough to beat them, then so be it. We must restore the credibility that we lost in 2015.. Anything less than that, will be a bad start for our new management.

We have to be competitive first and foremost for all games next year both league and championship.
Even though we got promoted last year some of the performances in last years league games left alot to be desired.
Every league and championship game next year with the exception of the New York game will be tough and for the squad to keep gaining confidence as the year progresses they will have to try and build on each performance.
In terms of being competitive we have to try and set the bar high early and not let that slip.

We need to identify an authorative and commanding centre half back. We've been too open down the centre. Does anyone think that it might actually be Niall Carty's natural position?

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 08, 2015, 06:16:33 PM
We need to identify an authorative and commanding centre half back. We've been too open down the centre. Does anyone think that it might actually be Niall Carty's natural position?

It sounds like his knee might be fûcked. If he was able to get fit he's the best CHB.

I think so anyway Shrewd.
We need major improvement in defence both personnel and strategy wise.
Too many run around tippy thappy attacking wing back types. Grand at underage and Colleges but one or two more than enough at serious adult level.
Midfield another area needing more consistency while we have decent forwards we need quicker ball up to them.
Endless hand passing in our own half has to stop.
I have great faith in our new management but implementing changes to game plans etc and searching for our best 15/21 means we may have to suffer relegation in the process.
Will be worth it if we're organised for the Championship.
Anything less than a CF appearance will mean failure unless we make a Qtr Final via the Qualifiers.
I'm hopeful but feet firmly on the ground.
Believe!! The best is yet to come. 8)

Surely 2016 needs to see an injury free breakthrough for Thomas Corcoran?.... I agree Rossfan that we need to adopt a defensive strategy, one that would see us defend as a unit. Could we also see Thomas Fetherston emerge as a regular starter in 2016?

Roscommon must be back in training as they were out of championship very early.

Fetherston has been part of the panel since the end of the 2014 u 21 campaign but got little or no game time.
Hopefully him and Mullooly will get tried early by Fergalkevin.
If Ward and Brogan don't make it this time around it will be the end of the County road for these 2 injury prone lads.
Corcoran, Cathal Compton and O'Rourke should be knocking on the door for starting places.

There are a lot of talented young players waiting in the wings, so hopefully many of them will
at least get a run in the FBD

I'm a biteen underwhelmed at some of the names mentioned in the Ros Herald as being back on the panel.
A lot of injuries knocking around too.
So we won't be retaining our FBD title opening the door for the Rhus to get their only bit of silverware for 2016.
Relegation is very likely too but I'm hopeful of a decent Summer.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 08, 2015, 05:27:36 PM
Yellowbus, you've covered it well enough there. Nobody is under any illusions in Roscommon about how difficult Division 1 will be.. But, imo, there are several winnable games for us. The bottom line must be to be competitive......As for the championship, it is imperative that we beat New York, Leitrim And Sligo. We Must get to the Connacht Final, probably against Mayo. We must leave no stone unturned to give them the mother and father of a battle. If that's still not good enough to beat them, then so be it. We must restore the credibility that we lost in 2015.. Anything less than that, will be a bad start for our new management.

Which ones?

Beffs, our three away games against Kerry, Cork and Donegal
will be difficult, as will the Dublin game in Hyde Park.

But I believe the Three home games in Hyde Park against Monaghan
, Down and Mayo are games that are winnable for us.
Having said all that, Ros seem to be carrying a lot of injuries
at the moment, so we might be lucky if we can field a team at all
for the FBD. Kevin Higgins needs shoulder surgery and will miss
the entire NFL....Over the Christmas period, Ros will play Meath
and Laois in challenge games in Kiltoom.

Down, I'll give you, but Monaghan are the current Ulster champions. They finished 3rd in last years league standings, and they won 4 out of their 7 games, just like Dublin. I wouldn't be taking a win against them for granted. Or Mayo.

I would of thought survival in the top flight would be the most important factor in roscommons progression but I do think it might prove a very difficult task . A lot of these div one games hinge on timing as in if Mayo for example need a win to get a semi spot or survive ,we would be going hell for leather in the Hyde in the last game plus there the championship marker type thing.

Monaghan are a very good side so like beffs above me I wouldn't be pinning too much hope on that one ,catch the kingdom early or Donegal and you might get a surprise result there because of their training pattern .

Interesting times ahead for Roscommon though I'd agree with that . Very hard to know how exactly they will fair . Mc stay is still hurting from being snubbed by his native county , he will be determined to take JJ Nestor out of Castlebar and back to Roscommon but it will be thirty years since Ross beat Mayo in Castlebar (fbd excluded) . One hell of a task to break that duck.

Kerry and Donegal could be better bets for a cheeky 2-4 points, even more than Mayo & Monaghan. Neither of them give two shits about the league & that is usually reflected in how well they do in it. They'll be vastly different animals come the summer time, though. So it's hard for a newly promoted county (like Roscommon) to know where they really stand, when it comes to measuring themselves against the heavy hitters.

Beffs and larryin89, i hope that i didn't give the impression that i was taking Monaghan, Down or Mayo for granted, because i'm not. They will be 3 difficult games as well. A lot of people won't be shocked if we lose most or all of our games. I just think that our best chance of points might be from those three games, but as i said above, i certainly wouldn't be taking any of them for granted.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 08, 2015, 09:28:21 PM
There are a lot of talented young players waiting in the wings, so hopefully many of them will
at least get a run in the FBD

13 students on the panel means they will be playing for the untouchables instead of getting a trial run with their County >:(
Add in 10 or 11 injuries and we'll be doing well to find 21 for each game in th'effbeedee.

Quote from: Rossfan on December 11, 2015, 12:29:12 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 08, 2015, 09:28:21 PM
There are a lot of talented young players waiting in the wings, so hopefully many of them will
at least get a run in the FBD

13 students on the panel means they will be playing for the untouchables instead of getting a trial run with their County >:(
Add in 10 or 11 injuries and we'll be doing well to find 21 for each game in th'effbeedee.

I'd say most if not all county managers would be glad to see the back of th'effbeedee, if the truth was to be told. Back in the time when only counties were involved, there was a bit of bite in the games as players on the fringe got a chance to stake a league place if nothing else.  No insult to the third level colleges but the fact that a manager can't select his college players means he can't use the FBD to help him build his team for the league and championship.

Totally agree with Rossfan and Lar. In it's current format, the FBD is of very little use to County teams.

Should be a Connacht league without colleges. No finals. Top team wins the cup. No benefit playing colleges. Some benefit to playing other county teams.

These Colleges seem a protected species in GAAland.
Top brass want to get rid of U21( football only which is totally baffling) to save lads from burnout but no attempt to squeeze the unnecessary Colleges competitions.
As it stands County managers would be better organising mid week challenges than trying to field artificial teams in the January competitions.

Looks like someone deleted Stolen Sheep?

I wonder what caused that. This is no time to lose our own dedicated website, and we on the cusp of a new era. Maybe there will be an influx of some of the posters onto this forum. Those of us on here are very restrained in our views and comments, compared to a few of the lads on Stolen Sheep.

Thought it was just my phone acting up. Hope someone can restore it to life.
Despite a few arseholes it was a great oul site.
Won't be the same posting here with all the neighbours sniping their oul crap at us. :'(

Quote from: Rossfan on December 12, 2015, 12:08:09 PM
Thought it was just my phone acting up. Hope someone can restore it to life.
Despite a few arseholes it was a great oul site.
Won't be the same posting here with all the neighbours sniping their oul crap at us. :'(

Did any of you buckos try posting there lately?
The Domain Name is on sale now  and it will cost a mere $2,295 to buy it.
That means the owner of the Domain Name hasn't made an attempt to renew the  name (stolensheep.com) for around 70 days. (Don't worry; just take my word for this.)

That's why I imagine someone of you, if you tried posting, would have found that the site was offline before now.
(Syf, I'd say you would know all about this sort of stuff.)

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 13, 2015, 02:36:42 AM

Quote from: Rossfan on December 12, 2015, 12:08:09 PM
Thought it was just my phone acting up. Hope someone can restore it to life.
Despite a few arseholes it was a great oul site.
Won't be the same posting here with all the neighbours sniping their oul crap at us. :'(

Did any of you buckos try posting there lately?
The Domain Name is on sale now  and it will cost a mere $2,295 to buy it.
That means the owner of the Domain Name hasn't made an attempt to renew the  name (stolensheep.com) for around 70 days. (Don't worry; just take my word for this.)

That's why I imagine someone of you, if you tried posting, would have found that the site was offline before now.
(Syf, I'd say you would know all about this sort of stuff.)

Domain wasn't stolensheep.com though, Lar. It was hosted at stolensheep.proboards.com, ProBoards being a free service that lets you create forums (it's ad supported). The decision to shut the forum could only be taken by the Admin, a John Flanagan (that was his username so that isn't revealing his identity in a meaningful way) who has posted a single time in all the years I've been there. Iirc he he's living aboard for a number of years so it's not like someone could go up to him and ask him what's happened.

stolensheep.com is just some domain swatter - it's very common for people to take domains that sound like they might somehow be valuable to someone at some future point. Charge them an arm and a leg for what would otherwise cost 30-50 euro. Why someone thought stolensheep.com was a valuable domain, well that's a question for a seriously addled mind.

Interesting interview with Kevin Mc Stay in the 'Roscommon People'.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 13, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
Interesting interview with Kevin Mc Stay in the 'Roscommon People'.

What was he saying ?

My nerdy friend tells me stolen sheep is being resurrected as http://stolen-sheep.proboards.com

larryin89, i'm not sure how to put up a link to the article, so i'll quickly mention a few things. ... He's very excited about the year ahead, but knows big challenges lie ahead.....41 players in current squad, of which 11 are carrying injuries and 13 are students, also training with colleges. He expects to field a strong team in FBD against Mayo......Every game in 2016 will be like an All Ireland, and he wants the supporters to ''reconnect'' with the team and to take ownership of the team..First game is a challenge against Laois in Kiltoom, next Saturday night at 7pm. Half the proceeds go to charity, and half to a players fund.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 13, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
larryin89, i'm not sure how to put up a link to the article, so i'll quickly mention a few things. ... He's very excited about the year ahead, but knows big challenges lie ahead.....41 players in current squad, of which 11 are carrying injuries and 13 are students, also training with colleges. He expects to field a strong team in FBD against Mayo......Every game in 2016 will be like an All Ireland, and he wants the supporters to ''reconnect'' with the team and to take ownership of the team..First game is a challenge against Laois in Kiltoom, next Saturday night at 7pm. Half the proceeds go to charity, and half to a players fund.

Well there will be a severe lack of experience in that regard , lol.

Nah man , that's pretty much what you'd expect him to say , he's not a daftie and is obviously well clued in with dealing with media (Sunday game and all that jazz) . Not sure why he's concerned with fbd game v Mayo though , we won't be . 

If Ross maintain division one status and win the Nestor cup , I would think Kevin has made a massive difference but like I have mentioned previously if the opposite happens IE relegation and a hammering in castlebar in Cf, then I would deem his first year unsuccessful and bad judgement from Ross board to force Evans out . Not that I think Evans was going anywhere fast but it's the first year in div one challenge that most people would of said Ye should of backed Evans for another year.

Best of luck to mcstay though (still want to bate ye out the gate every time though) , he's going to be under serious pressure I think .

larryin89, when Mc Stay mentioned the Mayo FBD game, i think he meant that he hopes to have a strong team available, by the time they play Mayo, because of all the injuries they currently have.....Re John Evans, i think the Co Board were actually prepared to ratify him for another year. It was the majority of clubs who wanted him out. When the Co Board got wind of this, they notified Evans ahead of the ratification vote. Evans then announced he was stepping down. He'd still be there if the Co Board had their way. Mc Stay was full of praise for the Ros Co Board since he took over, and also praised Club Rossie for the way they've taken care of bringing the Dublin based players to training.

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 13, 2015, 07:05:29 PM
larryin89, when Mc Stay mentioned the Mayo FBD game, i think he meant that he hopes to have a strong team available, by the time they play Mayo, because of all the injuries they currently have.....Re John Evans, i think the Co Board were actually prepared to ratify him for another year. It was the majority of clubs who wanted him out. When the Co Board got wind of this, they notified Evans ahead of the ratification vote. Evans then announced he was stepping down. He'd still be there if the Co Board had their way. Mc Stay was full of praise for the Ros Co Board since he took over, and also praised Club Rossie for the way they've taken care of bringing the Dublin based players to training.

Fair enough, Evans wasn't publicly humiliated like Pateen ans Noel were on our side of the fence. (It seems no one has found out yet who the f**cker that leaked the story was.)
I don't know enough about your internal affairs to figure out why the clubs wanted to shaft John Evans. Neutral observers that I've discussed the matter with were surprised that Evans was let go.  It does mean that MsStay and Fergie will be under some pressure to show that getting rid of Evans was a worthwhile exercise.
Hard to tell but  I'd expect an improvement under the new management.
I'd like to see Ross coming on a bit because it's in no one's favour that the gap between Mayo and the rest is so wide at present. In any event, I wish Kevin and Fergie well- if they can't smarten up your team, nobody can.

PS Like Larry, I wouldn't br to worried about the FBD. I'd say Rochford is hoping that he gets through the charade without anu serious injuries and TBH, I'd magine that Mac and every other manager feels the same way.

Clubs and others wanted to shake hand and bid farewell to John Evans because it was felt he had ::) gone past his sell by date.
Felt he hadn't the ability to take us further and the performance s v Sligo and Fermanagh confirmed that.

Mc Stay mentioned those two games in that interview. He said, on paper, Ros look to have a favourable draw in the championship. But, he said that we also looked to have a favourable draw in 2015, and we all saw what happened. He warned against high expectations too soon, and stated that the new management are starting off with a team that lost to both Sligo and Fermanagh..But, he did say that he expects Roscommon to be competitive in 2016, and that their going to have some fun along the way.

Kevin knows how to handle the media and expectations. FOD will be quietly happy that McStay will get most of the attention and he can concentrate on coaching. I think it's a really good pairing of two men who won't let their egos get in the way of the job at hand.

Are any of the other Rossies here going to the match in Kiltoom on Saturday night? It might only be a challenge match, but it will be great to see Ros in action again.. The fact that it's the first game for our new management, will also add to the interest level.....By all accounts, there was a good crowd at the 'Club Rossie' event in Dublin last night, with Kevin Mc Stay and Enda Smith in attendance.

If the weather's good I might head down. Big if looking at how it's been today though.

This forum now up and running. Spread the word.
http://stolen-sheep.proboards.com

Roscommon won tonight. Sounds like a good crowd turned up to gawk at McStay and FOD. Claffey, Purcell, Devanney and Kilroy made their first starts in years. John Mac and Niall Mc started and Featherston got a run at FB.

The result was Roscommon 4-13 , Laois 1-8

Couldn't make it tonight. Purcell, Devaney and Kilroy back on squad. Hmmmmmm.....
Can't see 2 of them playing in Div 1.

Was there tonight, sort of a harmless game but Ros played with great pace at times, played with half the panel and I presume the other half of the panel will line out against meath. this was the team as they lined out tonight.
Claffey, seanie,Fetherstone,David Murry,Stack, Purcell, Niall McInerney, Mcmanus, E. Smith, Cian Connolly, Niall Kilroy Coner Deveney, D. Murtagh, Cregger, C. Murtagh. Subs B. Murtagh, T. Lowe, F. Cregg, Gary Patterson, Shane O Malley.
Would not be fair to comment on any performance good or bad and there were both.
ht 2-8 to 1-4, full time 4-13 to 1-9. game was 60 minutes.

Ballagh, is that Fintan or Finbar Cregg ?

It was Fintan rossfan, I see twitter are saying Laois scored 1-8 but I made it 1-9, have been trying to work out what the alternative team will be against Meath but for the life of me I cant figure one out without playing many players out of position.

Happy Christmas to all my fellow Rossie posters, and to all posters on this
excellent Gaa Board, regardless of whatever county you come from (and yes, that
also includes the Mayo posters)   ;D

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 21, 2015, 11:27:14 PM
Happy Christmas to all my fellow Rossie posters, and to all posters on this
excellent Gaa Board, regardless of whatever county you come from (and yes, that
also includes the Mayo posters)   ;D

Same to you mo chara.

Happy Christmas Shrewdness and to all the other Rossies here - even Syfín :o.
Also to posters from other Counties and from Co Mayo too.

Thanks lads....An issue that is exercising the minds of many Rossies this Christmas, is the scandalous government proposal to put part of South Roscommon into Co Westmeath. This will be fought tooth and nail i'd imagine. Does anyone know if there are any significant  potential Gaa implications, if this is allowed to go through.

Quote from: larryin89 on December 22, 2015, 07:49:45 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on December 21, 2015, 11:27:14 PM
Happy Christmas to all my fellow Rossie posters, and to all posters on this
excellent Gaa Board, regardless of whatever county you come from (and yes, that
also includes the Mayo posters)   ;D

Same to you mo chara.

Ditto from Lar..
Happy Christmas to one and all board members, Rossies included.

Happy Christmas to you Lar

QuoteHappy Christmas to all my fellow Rossie posters, and to all posters on this
excellent Gaa Board, regardless of whatever county you come from (and yes, that
also includes the Mayo posters)   ;D

I just haven't in me to say the same for the Rossies. The 2001 match cast a major shadow over ye.

So to everyone else on the GAABoard Happy Christmass

Quote from: highorlow on December 23, 2015, 12:36:46 PM

QuoteHappy Christmas to all my fellow Rossie posters, and to all posters on this
excellent Gaa Board, regardless of whatever county you come from (and yes, that
also includes the Mayo posters)   ;D

I just haven't in me to say the same for the Rossies. The 2001 match cast a major shadow over ye.

So to everyone else on the GAABoard Happy Christmass

You miserable b*stard! :)
Happy Christmas to all Rossies - men, women and sheep.

Is there any information available on New York trip, was thinking of travelling, is there an official trip operator?
Would appreciate any information.

Ballagh, i think there were a few people discussing the New York trip over on the StolenSheep website a few weeks ago, before it closed down........Another challenge match for the Rossies on Tuesday evening, in Kiltoom at 6.30pm against Meath..As for the start of the FBD league, just 7 sleeps to go!!

Tonight's game v Meath rescheduled to Noon Thursday.

Wise move considering the weather forecast.

The Roscommon/Meath challenge refixed for Kiltoom at 12pm tomorrow has been postponed again. So it's straight to FBD action on Sunday against Sligo IT, weather permitting i suppose.

Straightforward win today for an experimental Roscommon team..
They led 1-12 to 0-3 at half time and ran out winners by 1-20 to
0-10. They had something like ten different scorers. Was very impressed
by Conor Devaney on his return to inter county football.

Team lined up as follows.....O`Malley.....Stack Mc Dermott R Daly.....C  Daly C Cregg B Murtagh
....NDaly I Kilbride.....Devaney Kilcline Oates.......Connolly CShine C Murtagh

Was there today shrewdness and I agree and I think Devevey is a huge addition to the panel, not even a serious training session but they seem to be moving the ball well and fast, Cathal Shine looked a little off the pace but im sure he will catch up, took the foot off the pedal a little in the second half and could have scored a few more goals but took their points, first real test is Monaghan in the Hyde in 4 weeks time.

Devaney making a serious claim for first 15 place.
Good to see the ball moving fast. Hope we can do that when we meet a real team.
Ballinameen B would have bet them College boys today.

David Murray, John Mc Manus and Kevin Finn all started for NUIG against Mayo, and will
no doubt be out to impress our management, when they play against us next weekend.

Murray the best of the. 3. Serious defender but he's too feckn small.

I hear our greatest ever player Gerry O' Malley has passed away.
R.I.P.

My father was at that match in Castlebar in 1962 against Galway. He says that while the crossbar was being fixed, many of the Galway team were hugging and congratulating each other, believing the game to be won.. Some Galway supporters left for home while the crossbar was being fixed, and could hardly believe the result announced  on the radio that evening. Many of the older Roscommon supporters, regard Gerry O'Malley as Roscommon's greatest ever player. May he rest in peace.

Quote from: Rossfan on January 05, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
I hear our greatest ever player Gerry O' Malley has passed away.
R.I.P.

+1

Interesting Club appointment in Roscommon. Ex county footballers, Frankie Dolan and Eddie Lohan, have been appointed as the new managers of St Brigid's. In recent years, they served together as selectors with the Roscommon U-21 team.. No doubt, Brigid's will be going all out to win back the Co title in 2016, after what was, by their standards, a disappointing year just gone.

Setanta have published their list of games for the NFL, 7 div 1 games being shown, 6 of them featuring dublin, the only Dubs game not being shown is the Ros game because they have no tv rights on the last day of the league, 4 div 2 games being shown but Galway does not feature. So out of 10 live football games only one Connacht team being shown, Mayo v dubs.
Take note all ye west of Ireland subscribers. Ah well I suppose we will be coming in under the radar for the championship!.
Good oul TG4, they wont let us down.

Quote from: giveballaghback on January 09, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
Setanta have published their list of games for the NFL, 7 div 1 games being shown, 6 of them featuring dublin, the only Dubs game not being shown is the Ros game because they have no tv rights on the last day of the league, 4 div 2 games being shown but Galway does not feature. So out of 10 live football games only one Connacht team being shown, Mayo v dubs.
Take note all ye west of Ireland subscribers. Ah well I suppose we will be coming in under the radar for the championship!.
Good oul TG4, they wont let us down.

Mainly our fault for not having floodlights on the county ground in 2016 AD. Setanta only have rights to Saturday games.

Can any of the other Ros posters update me on the situation with Thomas Corcoran? Is he playing with one of the colleges, or is he injured?

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 10, 2016, 10:12:28 PM
Can any of the other Ros posters update me on the situation with Thomas Corcoran? Is he playing with one of the colleges, or is he injured?

Injured. So many injuries.

I see Cake is entering the political arena, he should have some ideas on flood control anyway.

Thomas Corcoran should be back in march, Cathal Compton has returned to light training and should be in full training by early Feb., on another note a very important meeting in the Athlone springs hotel tonight at 8pm about the attempted transfer of 30 square klms of Roscommon into Westmeath. Any person with Rossie blood in their veins should try and be there.

What about the land grab Mayo GAA carried out?

Will anybody raise that?

(gets coat and runs)

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 11, 2016, 10:33:29 PM
What about the land grab Mayo GAA carried out?

Will anybody raise that?

(gets coat and runs)

You've got that a bit arseways I'm afraid

We'll demolishall the Athlone Bridges, we'll take back the Connacht side, we'll fight them in the callows, we'll burn Kinnegad.......

I'm open to correction on this. If this disgraceful proposal goes through, it would also hurt Co Roscommon from the Gaa perspective. The entire Clann na nGael club area would become part of Co Westmeath, as would part of the St Brigid's club area.. This, plus the obvious financial implications for our county, will ensure that this ridiculous proposal, from a government who closed our A/E, cannot and will not succeed.

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 12, 2016, 12:02:57 AM
I'm open to correction on this. If this disgraceful proposal goes through, it would also hurt Co Roscommon from the Gaa perspective. The entire Clann na nGael club area would become part of Co Westmeath, as would part of the St Brigid's club area.. This, plus the obvious financial implications for our county, will ensure that this ridiculous proposal, from a government who closed our A/E, cannot and will not succeed.

Just stay strong ,dont give the bastas an inch when it comes to the GAA . It happened in a Mayo town over 100 years ago but the GAA stayed strong and never gave the blowins an inch , the town went but the club remained and so did its soul .

Quote from: giveballaghback on January 11, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Thomas Corcoran should be back in march, Cathal Compton has returned to light training and should be in full training by early Feb., on another note a very important meeting in the Athlone springs hotel tonight at 8pm about the attempted transfer of 30 square klms of Roscommon into Westmeath. Any person with Rossie blood in their veins should try and be there.

That is outrageous. I have a bit of rossie blood but it-s not about that. Westof the Shannon is Connacht. East of the Shannon is hell.
Cromwell nailed it, really. The ****.

Quote from: giveballaghback on January 11, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Thomas Corcoran should be back in march, Cathal Compton has returned to light training and should be in full training by early Feb., on another note a very important meeting in the Athlone springs hotel tonight at 8pm about the attempted transfer of 30 square klms of Roscommon into Westmeath. Any person with Rossie blood in their veins should try and be there.

If they succeed in transferring those 30 sq KM to Westmeath, will you be changing your name?

Quote from: larryin89 on January 12, 2016, 12:08:43 AM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 12, 2016, 12:02:57 AM
I'm open to correction on this. If this disgraceful proposal goes through, it would also hurt Co Roscommon from the Gaa perspective. The entire Clann na nGael club area would become part of Co Westmeath, as would part of the St Brigid's club area.. This, plus the obvious financial implications for our county, will ensure that this ridiculous proposal, from a government who closed our A/E, cannot and will not succeed.

Just stay strong ,dont give the bastas an inch when it comes to the GAA . It happened in a Mayo town over 100 years ago but the GAA stayed strong and never gave the blowins an inch , the town went but the club remained and so did its soul .

Difference is a Mayoman, John Dillon (the yellow Library house beside Duffs) was responsible for that transfer and Mayo gained Ardnaree from Sligo so suffered no population loss while Roscommon lost the West Bank of Athlone back then.This time a Mayo Taoiseach's gov is looking to transfer 7000 Rossies and Connacht people to Westmeath. West of Shannon is historically, culturally and geographically Ros. If the govt wants to do battle with the Roscommon people they they will have to rewrite the Ballad of Athlone to "Does any man dream that a Rossie can fear?" We'll keep them out like we did the Williamites.

According to various estimates, the attendance figure at last night's '' Save Roscommon'' meeting in Athlone was '' as high as 1500 people''.

Quote from: armaghniac on January 11, 2016, 11:07:58 AM
I see Cake is entering the political arena, he should have some ideas on flood control anyway.

No doubt his ideas will involve drawing random triangles all over a map of the Midlands.

Quote from: Rossfan on January 11, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
We'll demolishall the Athlone Bridges, we'll take back the Connacht side, we'll fight them in the callows, we'll burn Kinnegad.......

I support all of the above. Leave Shannonbridge alone though.

This will be a huge pre election issue if the government don't back down.

Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he's getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

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Thomas Corcoran should be back in march, Cathal Compton has returned to light training and should be in full training by early Feb., on another note a very important meeting in the Athlone springs hotel tonight at 8pm about the attempted transfer of 30 square klms of Roscommon into Westmeath. Any person with Rossie blood in their veins should try and be there.

If they succeed in transferring those 30 sq KM to Westmeath, will you be changing your name?

Nah, he'll be like a dog with two lamposts and only one pee. 'Twill be hard to make a decision.
Does he look east or does he look west?

best line of last night was "we might be from the bog but we are not turf"

Quote from: Syferus on January 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

Haha, of course he's getting stuck in .Id hazard a guess it's a big part of the plan like.

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Quote from: Syferus on January 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

Haha, of course he's getting stuck in .Id hazard a guess it's a big part of the plan like.

Even though Kelly and Hopkins do not support this, Fine Gael and Labour will be history in Roscommon. Basically, handing the 3rd seat to Cake, even though FF in disarray in county.

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Quote from: Syferus on January 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

Haha, of course he's getting stuck in .Id hazard a guess it's a big part of the plan like.

Even though Kelly and Hopkins do not support this, Fine Gael and Labour will be history in Roscommon. Basically, handing the 3rd seat to Cake, even though FF in disarray in county.

Agreed.

 >:(

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 12, 2016, 06:43:31 PM
This will be a huge pre election issue if the government don't back down.

Submissions have to be made by 27th Jan.
No doubt it will then be left parked till after the election as a report will have to be prepared and sent to the Minister blah etc....
I hope Fitzmaurice's Alliance are needed by Enda as the bould Michael would no doubt want this stopped as his price for voting for Enda as Taoiseach.

Quote from: Rossfan on January 13, 2016, 12:25:00 AM
>:(

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 12, 2016, 06:43:31 PM
This will be a huge pre election issue if the government don't back down.

Submissions have to be made by 27th Jan.
No doubt it will then be left parked till after the election as a report will have to be prepared and sent to the Minister blah etc....
I hope Fitzmaurice's Alliance are needed by Enda as the bould Michael would no doubt want this stopped as his price for voting for Enda as Taoiseach.

Twould be the height of irony if a Tuam man saves the borders of Roscommon.

Whether it's pre election or post election, i can't see this ever happening. I know Enda Kenny and Co betrayed the people of Roscommon over the A/E, but this is a horse of a different colour. Trying to coral 7,000 Roscommon people and their heritage, into Westmeath against their will is not realistic.

What's the story behind this proposed land grab?
Why would the government want to transfer any place from one side of the Shannon to the other for local administration purposes or for any other reason?

Not sure on the circumstances in Rossieland, but I'd assume it's something to do with Athlone Town Council, and it making it fall under their jurisdiction for admin purposes?

This topic is very hot in Limerick as well. I'm not sure if there is a current move to take more of Clare into Limerick, but there was a few years ago. Most Clare people will tell you that West of the Shannon is Clare, so therefore the Gaelic Grounds and Thomond Park are actually in the Banner. You can see their point as the Shannon is the boundary all the way up the river really. But Limerick continues it's spread westwards, and gobbles up parts of Clare as it goes. ACtually, I wonder are Na Piarsaigh a Clare club? :)

Similar situations in Drogheda and Waterford City I believe.
If anything we should be getting all of the Connacht Side of Athlone back so it could be improved from its current condition.

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Quote from: Syferus on January 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

Haha, of course he's getting stuck in .Id hazard a guess it's a big part of the plan like.

Even though Kelly and Hopkins do not support this, Fine Gael and Labour will be history in Roscommon. Basically, handing the 3rd seat to Cake, even though FF in disarray in county.

Agreed.

I dont think he has a hope lads. He has pissed off more people in the county than any of the other candidates and thats before he starts canvassing!!

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Quote from: Syferus on January 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

Haha, of course he's getting stuck in .Id hazard a guess it's a big part of the plan like.

Even though Kelly and Hopkins do not support this, Fine Gael and Labour will be history in Roscommon. Basically, handing the 3rd seat to Cake, even though FF in disarray in county.

Agreed.

I dont think he has a hope lads. He has pissed off more people in the county than any of the other candidates and thats before he starts canvassing!!

Who is Cake standing for?

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Quote from: Syferus on January 12, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
Will be a mighty boost for Cake if he getting himself stuck in. Hopkins will be the big loser.

Haha, of course he's getting stuck in .Id hazard a guess it's a big part of the plan like.

Even though Kelly and Hopkins do not support this, Fine Gael and Labour will be history in Roscommon. Basically, handing the 3rd seat to Cake, even though FF in disarray in county.

Agreed.

I dont think he has a hope lads. He has pissed off more people in the county than any of the other candidates and thats before he starts canvassing!!

Who is Cake standing for?

The Soldiers of Destiny

Quote from: Rossfan on January 13, 2016, 11:14:07 AM
Similar situations in Drogheda and Waterford City I believe.
If anything we should be getting all of the Connacht Side of Athlone back so it could be improved from its current condition.

And derry (west of the foyle)

Quote from: sligoman2 on January 13, 2016, 03:23:25 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on January 13, 2016, 11:14:07 AM
Similar situations in Drogheda and Waterford City I believe.
If anything we should be getting all of the Connacht Side of Athlone back so it could be improved from its current condition.

And derry (west of the foyle)

To be given to Sligo??

Lar, Cake will be standing for Fianna Fail.. On a seperate note, are we expecting to see any of our more established players, returning for next Sunday. After coming on as a sub last Sunday (and scoring a point), we might see Senan Kilbride back at full forward, allowing Cathal Shine to go back to midfield.

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 13, 2016, 05:03:18 PM
Lar, Cake will be standing for Fianna Fail.. On a seperate note, are we expecting to see any of our more established players, returning for next Sunday. After coming on as a sub last Sunday (and scoring a point), we might see Senan Kilbride back at full forward, allowing Cathal Shine to go back to midfield.

With Donie Shine and Diarmuid Murtagh out (both free-taking FFs) for some time still Senan's fitness is almost as critical as Cathal Shine's is to our hopes of staying up.

Syferus, what's the problem with Diarmuid Murtagh.? Any hope of Ultan Harney or the Smith's lining out on Sunday.? I don't think i've ever seen so many key Roscommon players injured at the same time before.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/12099138864_64fa364b0a_o_d.jpg)

Clann na nGael and St Brigid`s are set to unite in their opposition to bulldoze them into Leinster.

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 18, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
Clann na nGael and St Brigid`s are set to unite in their opposition to bulldoze them into Leinster.

Effects parts of Pearses' too. Hard to imagine the Roscommon team without the Clann, Brigids and Pearses players. Along with Ros Gaels they're three of the big four in the county.

The GAA doesn't have to follow Council boundaries.
If it did Dublin would be split in 4, Cork and Galway in 2 and there would be 14 teams in Ulster.
So will we sacrifice Ballagh to keep the rich South if the Boundary change happens?

Quote from: Rossfan on January 18, 2016, 11:49:55 PM
The GAA doesn't have to follow Council boundaries.
If it did Dublin would be split in 4, Cork and Galway in 2 and there would be 14 teams in Ulster.
So will we sacrifice Ballagh to keep the rich South if the Boundary change happens?

I cannot see how this can be passed. This is reaching beyond even hospital A&E levels of anger. Petition are being set from every corner of the county at this stage. Even the government is backing away from it by saying it's just 'recommendations'. Even the FF TD for Westmeath is opposed to it.

Hopkins made a total fool of herself at the last meeting by not saying she'd vote against the government if the boundary change came up. She could be fúcked unless the government get out in front and throw this recommendation into the Shannon. Cake's chances are increasing by the minute the longer this rumbles on. No way he'd be stupid enough to make the mistake Hopkins did.

There will be no decision before the Election.
27 Jan to make submissions, then the Committee or Advisory group or whatever have to consider the whole lot and report to the Minister who makes a decision.
I'm afraid the anger of loads of no account Rossies will be low in the factors influencing the decision.
If we elect Denisheen, Fitz and feckin Cake we can defo kiss goodbye to our territory :-\

There's no way that this proposal will ever succeed.

Quote from: Rossfan on January 19, 2016, 12:06:17 AM
There will be no decision before the Election.
27 Jan to make submissions, then the Committee or Advisory group or whatever have to consider the whole lot and report to the Minister who makes a decision.
I'm afraid the anger of loads of no account Rossies will be low in the factors influencing the decision.
If we elect Denisheen, Fitz and feckin Cake we can defo kiss goodbye to our territory :-\

Far better than Hopkins who showed herself to just be another FG yes-man. Feighan in a dress. Agitation is the only way Roscommon's issues will ever be addressed.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that '' Senator'' John Kelly is staying very quiet about all of this.

Quote from: Syferus on January 18, 2016, 11:38:28 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 18, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
Clann na nGael and St Brigid`s are set to unite in their opposition to bulldoze them into Leinster.

Effects parts of Pearses' too. Hard to imagine the Roscommon team without the Clann, Brigids and Pearses players. Along with Ros Gaels they're three of the big four in the county.

It would only effect 50 people max in Pearses area and very small part of Brigids area is involved too. Of the area involved 85% would belong to Clann.

Quote from: Syferus on January 19, 2016, 12:30:55 AM


Hopkins who showed herself to just be another FG yes-man. Feighan in a dress.

Straying into dangerous territory now Syfín....... :o
There's every chance this could go ahead - a new Minister in for a potential 5 years, a recommendation from a Commission/Committee(operating out of Westmeath CoCo HQ), no Govt TD or a backbench one from our Constituency with no influence .....
Time to get logical submissions in and remember 27 Jan is last date to get them in.
Meanwhile every FG and any Labour supporter in Ros need to bombard their party HQs on the issue.

They should really go the whole way and just split Roscommon up between each of its neighbours, all of them get a piece, perhaps leave Ros town as some kind of autonomous district on its own. Nobody would want the Hospital or the Hyde anyway.

Quote from: Owenmoresider on January 19, 2016, 10:11:55 AM
They should really go the whole way and just split Roscommon up between each of its neighbours, all of them get a piece, perhaps leave Ros town as some kind of autonomous district on its own. Nobody would want the Hospital or the Hyde anyway.

Where there is an option the people turn their back on the poor Rossies. Athlone is Westmeath. Carrick also sitting on border is in lovely Leitrim. Ballinasloe Galway. Ballaghaderreen play in Mayo. Is there any other place on earth people turn their arse to?

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 18, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
Clann na nGael and St Brigid`s are set to unite in their opposition to bulldoze them into Leinster.

If they are opposed to entering into Leinster maybe have a word with them about removing a Leinster town from their address.

The comments by Shannoncider should be removed. Typical of the lovely neighbours to kick us when we are down, particularly the Mayo ones. Croi nobody west or north of Gallows hill want anything to do with Westmeath. Although if we are to be annexed better Westmeath than Mayo.

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 19, 2016, 12:43:42 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 18, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
Clann na nGael and St Brigid`s are set to unite in their opposition to bulldoze them into Leinster.

If they are opposed to entering into Leinster maybe have a word with them about removing a Leinster town from their address.

Maybe learn your history. Historic Athlone was always on the Connacht side of the Shannon. Anyway, there's no way a bunch of flat accented Westmeath people with their "send 'em home sweatin'" and "I love Joe" t-shirts will take Roscommon.

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Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 19, 2016, 12:43:42 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 18, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
Clann na nGael and St Brigid`s are set to unite in their opposition to bulldoze them into Leinster.

If they are opposed to entering into Leinster maybe have a word with them about removing a Leinster town from their address.

Maybe learn your history. Historic Athlone was always on the Connacht side of the Shannon. Anyway, there's no way a bunch of flat accented Westmeath people with their "send 'em home sweatin'" and "I love Joe" t-shirts will take Roscommon.

You Will be Assimilated. Resistance is Futile.

Are Westmeath trying to get their hands on a few All Ireland medals?

Idon`t think the powers that be realise the fight they`re facing over this, but they will if they persist.

What will we do if it's approved ?

 :'(

Quote from: Rossfan on January 19, 2016, 06:18:46 PM
What will we do if it's approved ?

Declare for Mayo

Seems as though it will be recommended, that Hyde Park will close sometime in June for pitch improvement
work..The target date to reopen is the start of the 2017 NFL.

Saw Seamus Sweeney's statement. Will they be removing some of the open seats and laying the pitch nearer the stand I wonder?

Finally.

I presume they are allowing for the possibility of a home championship match
against Sligo??. It would also mean that Hyde Park won`t be staging any qualifier matches
after June. Of course, they might be expecting us to take the front door to Croke Park this year!!

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 20, 2016, 06:09:04 PM
I presume they are allowing for the possibility of a home championship match
against Sligo??. It would also mean that Hyde Park won`t be staging any qualifier matches
after June. Of course, they might be expecting us to take the front door to Croke Park this year!!

Beating Sligo would mean a R4 Qualifier at worst. R4 is never played home-away, always at a neutral venue. If we lose to New York, Leitrim or what looks like a seriously damaged Sligo side then we deserve to be away so we can get the season over with fast. Making the same mistakes as last year would be unforgivable.

According to local paper in Ros, the deadline for submissions on the land
grab issue in South Ros has been extended from Jan 27 to March, which more than
likely, takes us past the General Election.

Submission forms are printed in this week`s `` Roscommon Herald`` if anyone wants to send
it off to Westmeath Co Council.

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 20, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
According to local paper in Ros, the deadline for submissions on the land
grab issue in South Ros has been extended from Jan 27 to March, which more than
likely, takes us past the General Election.

Submission forms are printed in this week`s `` Roscommon Herald`` if anyone wants to send
it off to Westmeath Co Council.

Sent my submission. But you'd have to worry about sending them to Westmeath for consideration. I have an awful image in my head of a buck in a maroon geansai setting a match to them and an old cassette recorder in the corner blaring "with the red stuff on her fingernails and varnish on her toes..."

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 20, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
According to local paper in Ros, the deadline for submissions on the land
grab issue in South Ros has been extended from Jan 27 to March, which more than
likely, takes us past the General Election.

Submission forms are printed in this week`s `` Roscommon Herald`` if anyone wants to send
it off to Westmeath Co Council.

I'll be sending 10 submissions a day in favour of the proposal  ;D

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 20, 2016, 11:50:58 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 20, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
According to local paper in Ros, the deadline for submissions on the land
grab issue in South Ros has been extended from Jan 27 to March, which more than
likely, takes us past the General Election.

Submission forms are printed in this week`s `` Roscommon Herald`` if anyone wants to send
it off to Westmeath Co Council.

I'll be sending 10 submissions a day in favour of the proposal  ;D

I think we should wait until Westmeath launches an attack and when them sheepophiles are busy at that end, we'll launch a surprise attack and liberate Ballagh and restore it to its rightful place in God's Acre. ;D

Apparently, the submission forms are on their third print run, such is the demand for them. They're hoping for 15-20,000 submissions. Ros Co Board are hopeful that Croke Park will make a submission against the land grab.. If this proposal went through 15 years ago, Donie Shine and Ultan Harney could be Westmeath footballers today.

The GAA doesn't have to change it's borders if this awful thing happens.
Our Council should be looking for all of the Connacht Side back  to try and bring it up to the standard of Monksland. Those parts of Athlone under Westmeath rule look like East Berlin used to compared to the Leinster side and Monksland.

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 20, 2016, 11:50:58 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 20, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
According to local paper in Ros, the deadline for submissions on the land
grab issue in South Ros has been extended from Jan 27 to March, which more than
likely, takes us past the General Election.

Submission forms are printed in this week`s `` Roscommon Herald`` if anyone wants to send
it off to Westmeath Co Council.

I'll be sending 10 submissions a day in favour of the proposal  ;D

Good man mac, I'll PM you the real address, don't use the one advertised, that address is just a front for the recycling centre to boost its recycling stats.

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on January 21, 2016, 09:49:31 AM

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 20, 2016, 11:50:58 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 20, 2016, 08:56:11 PM
According to local paper in Ros, the deadline for submissions on the land
grab issue in South Ros has been extended from Jan 27 to March, which more than
likely, takes us past the General Election.

Submission forms are printed in this week`s `` Roscommon Herald`` if anyone wants to send
it off to Westmeath Co Council.

I'll be sending 10 submissions a day in favour of the proposal  ;D

Good man mac, I'll PM you the real address, don't use the one advertised, that address is just a front for the recycling centre to boost its recycling stats.

;D

Why are Westmeath Co Co in charge of this submissions process, when they are the county that will benefit.
Just wondering?

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 21, 2016, 12:23:42 PM
Why are Westmeath Co Co in charge of this submissions process, when they are the county that will benefit.
Just wondering?

I thought the same myself, very Irish.

+2....something doesn't feel right about sending a submission to Westmeath.. A mass protest at the bridge in Athlone should be the next step.

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 21, 2016, 01:47:42 PM
+2....something doesn't feel right about sending a submission to Westmeath.. A mass protest at the bridge in Athlone should be the next step.

What are you going to do, parachute them in? Our troops are already assembled at the motorway, waiting on the order to advance now.

Good man Croi. I can see we`re going to have a bit of craic on here over this, but that`s all ye`ll
be getting from us. We sent ye down to Division 3 last year and
will repel ye again.

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 21, 2016, 08:13:59 PM
Good man Croi. I can see we`re going to have a bit of craic on here over this, but that`s all ye`ll
be getting from us. We sent ye down to Division 3 last year and
will repel ye again.

It was more like we hammered them into D3. That was the biggest mismatch we had in D2 last year.. explains why they'd want to add some good players.

They got to their Provincial Final batin their neighbours which was more than we managed.

Quote from: Rossfan on January 21, 2016, 09:29:50 PM
They got to their Provincial Final batin their neighbours which was more than we managed.

Sure we bate their neighbours too and we did it playing badly..  and we gave Fermanagh a game whereas our neighbours,  the less said the better.

I am reliably told from a well informed source that this process of moving part of south Roscommon into Westmeath is much further down the road then we realise, remember the controversy when eircode came out about the Monksland  addresses being in Westmeath? well it is the exact area that is now being transferred.
This will be done right after election.
People of Roscommon, from every corner of the county will have to stand together against this destruction of our county.

Quote from: giveballaghback on January 21, 2016, 11:07:54 PM
I am reliably told from a well informed source that this process of moving part of south Roscommon into Westmeath is much further down the road then we realise, remember the controversy when eircode came out about the Monksland  addresses being in Westmeath? well it is the exact area that is now being transferred.
This will be done right after election.
People of Roscommon, from every corner of the county will have to stand together against this destruction of our county.

I don't see how it will happen. The reaction has been universally negative. Garrett Fitz learnt his lesson in the 1980s with this stuff and the only outcome here is a government that gets its fingers scorched. The longer it goes on the less chance they have of retaining any seat in Roscommon.

, I think Kilmovee has a Roscommon post code, which males larryin 89 an honorary Rossie ;D

A dishonourable one maybe :D ;D

Quote from: Shrewdness on January 21, 2016, 08:13:59 PM
Good man Croi. I can see we`re going to have a bit of craic on here over this, but that`s all ye`ll
be getting from us. We sent ye down to Division 3 last year and
will repel ye again.

That was the kick in the stones that we needed. Thanks. See you in 2 next year. We will spare your first born as an act of good faith, we are not merciless. Divide et Impera.

I'd say it's all more or less decided on. Just needs rubber stamped. Submitting objections to Mullingar says it all. Where is Ros CoCo in this? We are given wind of this when it's already too late. We should be looking to to take back the left bank of athlone not retreat out to brideswell. As if they will listen to the ordinary people! This is the way of world unfortunately.

Who are the 2 Roscommon players transferring to Castleknock in Dublin?

Probably work up there? Who are they?

Was at funeral in Cloonbonniff on Friday, the Rossies I spoke to seemed very upbeat about holding onto their bit of land but pessimistic about their chances of staying in Div 1, seemed to think the Monaghan games was a make or break game. Pretty much the opposite of what lads on here are saying

You might get a few people on the internet being 'optimistic' about staying up in Div 1 but in conversation people tend to be more realistic. Roscommon, a division 3 level team for years. It would take an unbelievable set of results to see us survive. While we have potential and have improved a bit recently we are still well outside 'the top tier' sides in terms of experience and know how, evidenced in how Monaghan shot an injury time 1-2 yesterday to close out a game that was theirs for the taking since they pulled the first goal back early in the second half.

I would be over the moon if we survived but not too devastated if we remain competitive at least in the rest of our games. We will be underdog in every single one of them and rightly so.

Ye should never have gone up in the first place.

Quote from: Jinxy on February 01, 2016, 04:45:25 PM
Ye should never have gone up in the first place.

We met the necessary criteria and beat youse f@ckers.

Quote from: Ringfort on February 01, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
You might get a few people on the internet being 'optimistic' about staying up in Div 1 but in conversation people tend to be more realistic. Roscommon, a division 3 level team for years. It would take an unbelievable set of results to see us survive. While we have potential and have improved a bit recently we are still well outside 'the top tier' sides in terms of experience and know how, evidenced in how Monaghan shot an injury time 1-2 yesterday to close out a game that was theirs for the taking since they pulled the first goal back early in the second half.

I would be over the moon if we survived but not too devastated if we remain competitive at least in the rest of our games. We will be underdog in every single one of them and rightly so.

They mainly shot the goal because of a kickout malfunction and the last point because we had to commit many men forward. It wasn't really a remarkable finish by a 'top team' in any sense. Only the equalizing point by Monaghan really meets the narrative you set up there, which of course defeats the point of it when it's only a single point. We're not controlling the controllables - we did it in Sligo and Fermanagh last year and again yesterday. We learnt from the Sligo game to name a fit 15 but we have yet to learn the lesson of closing games out.

We're not as far away from these teams as you seem to suggest.

25-30, 000 submissions sent in against the land/people grab

Quote from: Syferus on February 01, 2016, 05:16:06 PM

Quote from: Ringfort on February 01, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
You might get a few people on the internet being 'optimistic' about staying up in Div 1 but in conversation people tend to be more realistic. Roscommon, a division 3 level team for years. It would take an unbelievable set of results to see us survive. While we have potential and have improved a bit recently we are still well outside 'the top tier' sides in terms of experience and know how, evidenced in how Monaghan shot an injury time 1-2 yesterday to close out a game that was theirs for the taking since they pulled the first goal back early in the second half.

I would be over the moon if we survived but not too devastated if we remain competitive at least in the rest of our games. We will be underdog in every single one of them and rightly so.

They mainly shot the goal because of a kickout malfunction and the last point because we had to commit many men forward. It wasn't really a remarkable finish by a 'top team' in any sense. Only the equalizing point by Monaghan really meets the narrative you set up there, which of course defeats the point of it when it's only a single point. We're not controlling the controllables - we did it in Sligo and Fermanagh last year and again yesterday. We learnt from the Sligo game to name a fit 15 but we have yet to learn the lesson of closing games out.

We're not as far away from these teams as you seem to suggest.

Please just stop posting things Syfín. Yer doin' me head in .

Quote from: Rossfan on February 01, 2016, 08:05:45 PM

Quote from: Syferus on February 01, 2016, 05:16:06 PM

Quote from: Ringfort on February 01, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
You might get a few people on the internet being 'optimistic' about staying up in Div 1 but in conversation people tend to be more realistic. Roscommon, a division 3 level team for years. It would take an unbelievable set of results to see us survive. While we have potential and have improved a bit recently we are still well outside 'the top tier' sides in terms of experience and know how, evidenced in how Monaghan shot an injury time 1-2 yesterday to close out a game that was theirs for the taking since they pulled the first goal back early in the second half.

I would be over the moon if we survived but not too devastated if we remain competitive at least in the rest of our games. We will be underdog in every single one of them and rightly so.

They mainly shot the goal because of a kickout malfunction and the last point because we had to commit many men forward. It wasn't really a remarkable finish by a 'top team' in any sense. Only the equalizing point by Monaghan really meets the narrative you set up there, which of course defeats the point of it when it's only a single point. We're not controlling the controllables - we did it in Sligo and Fermanagh last year and again yesterday. We learnt from the Sligo game to name a fit 15 but we have yet to learn the lesson of closing games out.

We're not as far away from these teams as you seem to suggest.

Please just stop posting things Syfín. Yer doin' me head in .

No.

Quote from: Shrewdness on February 01, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
25-30, 000 submissions sent in against the land/people grab

Enda Kenny said there'd be no land grab. Now I'm really starting to worry.

Quote from: weareros on February 01, 2016, 10:47:21 PM

Quote from: Shrewdness on February 01, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
25-30, 000 submissions sent in against the land/people grab

Enda Kenny said there'd be no land grab. Now I'm really starting to worry.

No closure of the A&E he said five years ago.

I'll admit, I haven't seen too much of Ros lately. What do Rossies on here think of SBB's assertion that Ros are 12 points worse than Mayo, when the championship comes. I don't think Ros are that bad, but I haven't seen much of ye either.

What or who is SBB?

Assume Sean Bán Breathnach. Sure there was one year when Ros gave Galway a good hiding in an underage game but from SBB's TG4 highlights that mostly only showed Galway scores, you'd think Ros lost.

Quote from: weareros on February 05, 2016, 10:08:22 PM
Assume Sean Bán Breathnach. Sure there was one year when Ros gave Galway a good hiding in an underage game but from SBB's TG4 highlights that mostly only showed Galway scores, you'd think Ros lost.

Yep, I'm watching Seo Spoirt.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2016, 10:00:18 PM
I'll admit, I haven't seen too much of Ros lately. What do Rossies on here think of SBB's assertion that Ros are 12 points worse than Mayo, when the championship comes. I don't think Ros are that bad, but I haven't seen much of ye either.

Good oul' Seàn Bán Gaillimheach ;D
Although he did say Galway were 16 points worse than Mayowestros.
We'll see what happens on the field when Summer comes.

Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2016, 10:15:14 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2016, 10:00:18 PM
I'll admit, I haven't seen too much of Ros lately. What do Rossies on here think of SBB's assertion that Ros are 12 points worse than Mayo, when the championship comes. I don't think Ros are that bad, but I haven't seen much of ye either.

Good oul' Seàn Bán Gaillimheach ;D
Although he did say Galway were 16 points worse than Mayowestros.
We'll see what happens on the field when Summer comes.

I remember a Brigids lad at the 2013 AI final in full face-paint that spent the whole stick fighting match fuming about SBB rubbishing their chances to win..

He has a hard-on against Roscommon, don't know if him or Ray Silke is the worst Galway offender.

SBB? *snorts*....he is to credible sports journalism, what I am to thermonuclear astro physics !  ::)

In fairness to SBB the first crowd he usually sticks his boot into would be his own county so I wouldn't be overly sensitive about anything he says.

I don`t take any notice of what he says at all.

George Hook, Eamon Dunphy and that gobshite with the cupla focal from Galway. How do f@cktards like that make money from punditry. It really pisses me off when young lads/ lassies with adequate knowledge, work ethic are off the pay-roll and gobshites like these are.

A few comings and goings on the club scene involving a couple of our inter county players.

Donal Ward has left Dublin club, Kilmacud Crokes to return to his home club
Western Gaels.
Heading in the opposite direction is Roscommon full back, Neil Collins who is leaving Castlerea St Kevins
to play in Castleknock.

Here ye go lads

http://www.dailyedge.ie/roscommon-2-2595457-Feb2016/

Had to go back to check was Farrs post from this year or a couple of years ago , genuinely shocked anyone could say Ross are 12 points worse than Mayo at this present moment but sbb is a bit ridiculous at times . Did he take any notice of our last championship meeting in 14 ?

But I will say this,  if Ross were to get a hiding off Galway or ourselves in this years provincial final , it would seriously raise questions about their progress but so far so good for them in fairness a narrow loss to Monaghan in the dying minutes and a victory down in Kerry would point to a panel heading in the right direction . (Unfortunately)

Quote from: Syferus on February 05, 2016, 10:29:43 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2016, 10:15:14 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2016, 10:00:18 PM
I'll admit, I haven't seen too much of Ros lately. What do Rossies on here think of SBB's assertion that Ros are 12 points worse than Mayo, when the championship comes. I don't think Ros are that bad, but I haven't seen much of ye either.

Good oul' Seàn Bán Gaillimheach ;D
Although he did say Galway were 16 points worse than Mayowestros.
We'll see what happens on the field when Summer comes.

Risintmint
I remember a Brigids lad at the 2013 AI final in full face-paint that spent the whole stick fighting match fuming about SBB rubbishing their chances to win..

He has a hard-on against Roscommon, don't know if him or Ray Silke is the worst Galway offender.

QuoteHe has a hard-on against Roscommon,

That has to be one of the best lines on here for a long time. It's akin to saying I've a hard on against gays.

Quote from: highorlow on February 12, 2016, 10:21:43 AM

QuoteHe has a hard-on against Roscommon,

That has to be one of the best lines on here for a long time. It's akin to saying I've a hard on against gays.

Whatever floats your boat.

Great result and performance last weekend. At 11/4 Roscommon to win Connacht looks a decent bet.

Which one of the Smith brothers played last weekend and which one is the youngest?

Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Great result and performance last weekend. At 11/4 Roscommon to win Connacht looks a decent bet.

Which one of the Smith brothers played last weekend and which one is the youngest?

Enda and Enda.

Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Great result and performance last weekend. At 11/4 Roscommon to win Connacht looks a decent bet.

Which one of the Smith brothers played last weekend and which one is the youngest?

looks way too low. Last year Ros peaked in April.  Mayo do not care about the league.

Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2016, 08:31:28 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Great result and performance last weekend. At 11/4 Roscommon to win Connacht looks a decent bet.

Which one of the Smith brothers played last weekend and which one is the youngest?

looks way too low. Last year Ros peaked in April.  Mayo do not care about the league.

Ok.

This year we're peaking in February so ye can all forget about us  after we bate Cork.

You're only at the preamble stage, trying to fool us that you're going all out.
You nicely faked it in Killarney, after getting caught unawares when pulling up in Kiltoom.

Quote from: Syferus on February 12, 2016, 08:44:39 PM

Quote from: seafoid on February 12, 2016, 08:31:28 PM

Quote from: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Great result and performance last weekend. At 11/4 Roscommon to win Connacht looks a decent bet.

Which one of the Smith brothers played last weekend and which one is the youngest?

looks way too low. Last year Ros peaked in April.  Mayo do not care about the league.

Ok.

Love your cockiness sunshine.

Looks like Ultan Harney done the hamstring in the warm up, seems to be very injury prone, will he ever reach his full potential?
More than likely will miss u21 match with Galway now.
Ros have had a very unlucky run with injuries over the last year or so. Hope it will not be costly in the long run.

Quote from: giveballaghback on February 20, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
Looks like Ultan Harney done the hamstring in the warm up, seems to be very injury prone, will he ever reach his full potential?
More than likely will miss u21 match with Galway now.
Ros have had a very unlucky run with injuries over the last year or so. Hope it will not be costly in the long run.

The lad was coming back from an injury and was about to play his second game in 24 hours - injury prone my left arse cheek.

Quote from: Syferus on February 20, 2016, 08:28:55 PM

Quote from: giveballaghback on February 20, 2016, 07:17:00 PM
Looks like Ultan Harney done the hamstring in the warm up, seems to be very injury prone, will he ever reach his full potential?
More than likely will miss u21 match with Galway now.
Ros have had a very unlucky run with injuries over the last year or so. Hope it will not be costly in the long run.

The lad was coming back from an injury and was about to play his second game in 24 hours - injury prone my left arse cheek.

To many competitions. To many masters to serve. Ah, in a perfect (GAA) world, everybody could be satisfied. If you have a set calendar of events/competitions for the year, you'd still have lads playing all year long going from one competition to another.

Roscommon are more aware this year of their growing injury list. The higher you go up the ranks the more you need all your troops in good order. An injury here or there will be got away with in Division two and nearly unnoticed. But not in the rough and tumble of Division One. Coping with losses is part of the learning curve and often can benefit a group as they learn they will not always get to play with their strongest hand, but that does not mean a decent result can not be acquired.

I think Roscommon could very well bate Cork. The langers are all over the shop, especially upstairs. Once the heads start to drop, that's usually it. It must be hugely frustrating for their supporters, as they have some very talented players, especially in the forward line. Put it up to them early on and the jury is very much out on what kind of a reaction you will get. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Rossies. McStay seems to have their noggins in a good place.

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
I think Roscommon could very well bate Cork. The langers are all over the shop, especially upstairs. Once the heads start to drop, that's usually it. It must be hugely frustrating for their supporters, as they have some very talented players, especially in the forward line. Put it up to them early on and the jury is very much out on what kind of a reaction you will get. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Rossies. McStay seems to have their noggins in a good place.

Supporters?

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 20, 2016, 09:43:50 PM

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
I think Roscommon could very well bate Cork. The langers are all over the shop, especially upstairs. Once the heads start to drop, that's usually it. It must be hugely frustrating for their supporters, as they have some very talented players, especially in the forward line. Put it up to them early on and the jury is very much out on what kind of a reaction you will get. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Rossies. McStay seems to have their noggins in a good place.

Supporters?

Well there's the lad with the sombrero, the lad with the drum........

Quote from: Rossfan on February 20, 2016, 09:48:54 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 20, 2016, 09:43:50 PM

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
I think Roscommon could very well bate Cork. The langers are all over the shop, especially upstairs. Once the heads start to drop, that's usually it. It must be hugely frustrating for their supporters, as they have some very talented players, especially in the forward line. Put it up to them early on and the jury is very much out on what kind of a reaction you will get. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Rossies. McStay seems to have their noggins in a good place.

Supporters?

Well there's the lad with the sombrero, the lad with the drum........

You won't catch sombrero at a match until The Suinday Game is back on.

Ah, the bould Cyril. To be fair to him, he goes to away league games too.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/can-you-fill-sombrero-of-super-fan-cyril-198435.html

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 09:59:01 PM
Ah, the bould Cyril. To be fair to him, he goes to away league games too.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/can-you-fill-sombrero-of-super-fan-cyril-198435.html

Fair enough. Austin 3:16 with the sign might be more of a glory hunter. Mayo had St. Patrick but he retired from that after a few turns of Horan fecking things up.

"GAA Supporter of the Year". Did he award it to himself by any chance?

 Sombrero man was in Pàirc Ui Rinn tonight for the foulfest ( but few frees of course) with th'oul shticks.
Hope they left a few blades of grass for next week.

Do ye not play them at home? Ye were away last time to Kerry?

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
I think Roscommon could very well bate Cork. The langers are all over the shop, especially upstairs. Once the heads start to drop, that's usually it. It must be hugely frustrating for their supporters, as they have some very talented players, especially in the forward line. Put it up to them early on and the jury is very much out on what kind of a reaction you will get. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Rossies. McStay seems to have their noggins in a good place.

Cork haven't lost many home games in the league over the last 3 or 4 years, It would be a surprise to see a newly promoted side like Roscommon beat them in Cork.

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
Do ye not play them at home? Ye were away last time to Kerry?

Cork and Donegal away. Down, Mayo and Dublin at home.

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
Do ye not play them at home? Ye were away last time to Kerry?

2 away in a row but finish with 2 in a row at home v Mayowestros and franchise Teamdublin.

Quote from: Rossfan on February 21, 2016, 12:05:03 AM

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
Do ye not play them at home? Ye were away last time to Kerry?

2 away in a row but finish with 2 in a row at home v Mayowestros and franchise Teamdublin.

2 slow.

Right you are. Thought ye had them at home. Still don't think you haven't anything to get overly intimidated by. If Roscommon weren't cowed by facing Kerry at home, Cork should be more of same.

They have a better home league record than most, but that was when games were at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Pairc Ui Rinn is a different story. It's a very small, tight pitch. Very hard and sandy too. One bad bounce & you have half the Kalahari Desert blowing up in your face.

There'll probably be just as many Rossies as locals at the game, so the home town crowd factor won't be at play, the way it is at most games.

We'd expect to outnumber them 3 to 1 at least.
Seems to be a great spot for sand alright.

Quote from: Beffs on February 21, 2016, 12:12:03 AM
They have a better home league record than most, but that was when games were at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Pairc Ui Rinn is a different story. It's a very small, tight pitch. Very hard and sandy too. One bad bounce & you have half the Kalahari Desert blowing up in your face.

Mayo well beaten in Pairc Ui Rinn a few weeks ago. Last year in the league they beat Dublin and hammered Kerry in Pairc Ui Rinn.

Quote from: Rossfan on February 21, 2016, 12:05:03 AM

Quote from: Beffs on February 20, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
Do ye not play them at home? Ye were away last time to Kerry?

2 away in a row but finish with 2 in a row at home v Mayowestros and franchise Teamdublin.

I Heard That Vulture Capital LLC were thinking of moving the TeamDublin franchise to Murmansk where more locale would support it.  A shady outfit known as Dhera LLC Is believed to Be acting in The background.

Senan and Cathal Shine set to return for Sunday, Cathal Compton fit but wont be played this weekend,
D. Murtagh and Harney definately out and wont even make the bench, its a big ask and a hard place to get a result.
Our game against the all-Ireland whinging champions on Easter Sunday could be a winner stays in div 1 clash yet.
Travelling down to Cork on Saturday and really looking forward to it.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2016, 12:52:37 AM

Quote from: Beffs on February 21, 2016, 12:12:03 AM
They have a better home league record than most, but that was when games were at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Pairc Ui Rinn is a different story. It's a very small, tight pitch. Very hard and sandy too. One bad bounce & you have half the Kalahari Desert blowing up in your face.

Mayo well beaten in Pairc Ui Rinn a few weeks ago. Last year in the league they beat Dublin and hammered Kerry in Pairc Ui Rinn.

The Mayo and Dublin games were first round games. You can't really set much store by them imo. Kerry are always shite in the early rounds. I've been banging that drum for a while now too. A fired up team, who really put it up to Cork, can get results. Get an early lead and their heads begin to drop.

Quote from: Beffs on February 23, 2016, 08:19:36 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2016, 12:52:37 AM

Quote from: Beffs on February 21, 2016, 12:12:03 AM
They have a better home league record than most, but that was when games were at Pairc Ui Chaoimh. Pairc Ui Rinn is a different story. It's a very small, tight pitch. Very hard and sandy too. One bad bounce & you have half the Kalahari Desert blowing up in your face.

Mayo well beaten in Pairc Ui Rinn a few weeks ago. Last year in the league they beat Dublin and hammered Kerry in Pairc Ui Rinn.

The Mayo and Dublin games were first round games. You can't really set much store by them imo. Kerry are always shite in the early rounds. I've been banging that drum for a while now too. A fired up team, who really put it up to Cork, can get results. Get an early lead and their heads begin to drop.

Cork v Kerry was a round 4 game in last years league.

If Roscommon are you pull off another result against the odds down south this weekend I think they will deserve a bit more credit than just saying Kerry are shite in the early rounds or Cork not much better if you put it up to them. Only five years ago Roscommon were playing their league football in div 4 a million miles from faring off against Kerry and Cork.

I know they were & they deserve great credit for how far they have come. I've already said that I think they will stay up in Div 1. I was also one of the few people (quite possibly the only one) to predict that they would beat Kerry. ( Where's me medal?  ;D )

I'm just giving reasons as to why I think they may stay up & why they may beat the teams that they may beat....Kerrys poor form in the early rounds & Cork's mental brittleness being examples. So far, McStay seems to have them well set up to take advantages of weaknesses.

And FOD too. He was our best senior manager since the earlier nineties tbh so it's a good team by any measure.

Very few counties can run the gauntlet from playing Kilkenney to beating Kerry in league football. One thing Roscommon football never is is boring.

And then there's the bus. You can't leave out the bus.  ;D

It will be interesting to see how the 3 week lay off affects them. Will they be able to keep the momentum up for 6 long weeks, as the best teams in the country start to flex their muscles & acquire a bit more pep in their step?

Ros team named, Purcell and Senan on, D.Murtagh and kilroy on the bench, C. Murtagh captain.

Pursy at CH back.... Could be one problem position solved.

Quote from: Rossfan on February 25, 2016, 11:27:26 PM
Pursy at CH back.... Could be one problem position solved.

He'd decapate a lad sooner than he'd let him by.

Quote from: Syferus on February 26, 2016, 12:35:09 AM

Quote from: Rossfan on February 25, 2016, 11:27:26 PM
Pursy at CH back.... Could be one problem position solved.

He'd decapate a lad sooner than he'd let him by.

Seànie P is a gentleman and doesn't do things like that.
Leave that kind of thing to certain other Counties ::)

Ros are doing well against Cork

Roscommon 2-13 Cork 1-06

All from play for us. Ten different scorers. Can't say it's been anything but awesome.

I don't like to brag, (ah, who am I kidding?  ;D ) but I did call this one. Again.

Drive on and win this one in style now. No more 72nd minute heart attacks please.

Quote from: Syferus on February 28, 2016, 02:36:22 PM
Roscommon 2-13 Cork 1-06

All from play for us. Ten different scorers. Can't say it's been anything but awesome.

Did ye have the breeze?

Quote from: Jinxy on February 28, 2016, 03:00:23 PM

Quote from: Syferus on February 28, 2016, 02:36:22 PM
Roscommon 2-13 Cork 1-06

All from play for us. Ten different scorers. Can't say it's been anything but awesome.

Did ye have the breeze?

3-15 to 2-07 start of second half now.

We have the footballers.

Edit: 3-18 to 2-07. Something else today.

Edit: 4-21 to 2-07. I can't keep this updated.

God help the poor bastard running the official Twitter account. He'll have to stick his hand in a bucket of ice after all this.

What a fabulous win.

Roscommon 4-25 Cork 3-10 FT.

Something like 4-21 from play from 11 different scorers. The people who thought D1 was coming too soon for us have been proven very wrong. Team fast maturing by getting to play the big boys.

It is time to get the Bus taxed.

Great win.

The score line should do wonders for their scoring differential, if a few counties are all stuck on the same points after the last round. It's a given that Down will finish 8th. It could all come down to pts difference as to who finishes 5th & 6th (and stays up) and 7th. Although based on today, they are probably setting their sights on making the play offs now and fair fcuks to them for it.

Result of the weekend fair play to Roscommon. When if ever did a side score or concede 4-25 in a division one game?

Great result for the Ros and the result of the weekend.

Very impressive win,  though conceding 3 -10 must be weighing heavy on the bus ride home.

Cork is a big scalp. Ros should be good enough to reach the semi finals.

Looks like there will be only one Connacht team in Division 2 next season - Mayo!  :P

If I blinked I would have missed those RTE highlights tonight. Some win for Roscommon today, the margin and scoring total that nobody would have predicted.

Home at last. Wrecked!
Driving  so much and that breathtaking performance......phew!
Cork poor enough but we did so many things well and correctly ( apart from defending I suppose) it was a joy to watch.
And did Dominic get elected too? He was getting some great acclaim from some Naughtenites ;D
At least we have a decent chance of staying up now.

Did the Rhus win?

I told ye McStay was the man to take that team forward.
They must have been camped in the hot-zone all day.

Frank Murphy must have told TG4 not to show the Cork game highlights last night.

Must have been the only game in the top two divisions with no highlights!

Imagine the reaction if the Dubs had won by that amount.

Given that so many thought they'd be relegated then the results and performances against Cork & Kerry have been very impressive and they look good for a semi final spot.

Strange that there were no highlights of this game anywhere

I thought the communists had been voted out

Aisy on with talking up lads.
Always best to get Kerry in Round 1 or 2 before they get into any sort of shape.
Cork were very sluggish without the ball while we were flying with it.
We have good forwards who can do damage with that yard of space and couple of seconds afforded to us by Cork.

Let's try and ensure safety on Sunday firstly, then use the remaining games to give more of the panel some exposure to D1 and try and solve some of our problem positions.

Quote from: Kurtz on March 01, 2016, 11:21:55 AM
Strange that there were no highlights of this game anywhere

I thought the communists had been voted out

There were highlights of the game on RTE's League Sunday show.

Quote from: Beffs on March 01, 2016, 01:01:34 PM

Quote from: Kurtz on March 01, 2016, 11:21:55 AM
Strange that there were no highlights of this game anywhere

I thought the communists had been voted out

There were highlights of the game on RTE's League Sunday show.

7-55 scored in the game and RTE showed a little over a minute of highlights.

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 01, 2016, 03:15:07 PM

Quote from: Beffs on March 01, 2016, 01:01:34 PM

Quote from: Kurtz on March 01, 2016, 11:21:55 AM
Strange that there were no highlights of this game anywhere

I thought the communists had been voted out

There were highlights of the game on RTE's League Sunday show.

7-55 scored in the game and RTE showed a little over a minute of highlights.

7-55??

Would be some scoring if true!  :)

Row 4-25 Cork 3-30

Cork by 2

Blanket defense me arse!

Quote from: J70 on March 01, 2016, 03:20:41 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 01, 2016, 03:15:07 PM

Quote from: Beffs on March 01, 2016, 01:01:34 PM

Quote from: Kurtz on March 01, 2016, 11:21:55 AM
Strange that there were no highlights of this game anywhere

I thought the communists had been voted out

There were highlights of the game on RTE's League Sunday show.

7-55 scored in the game and RTE showed a little over a minute of highlights.

7-55??

Would be some scoring if true!  :)

Row 4-25 Cork 3-30

Cork by 2

Blanket defense me arse!

I thought the rossies scored 4-45. Who is Row  :P

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 01, 2016, 03:27:32 PM

Quote from: J70 on March 01, 2016, 03:20:41 PM

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 01, 2016, 03:15:07 PM

Quote from: Beffs on March 01, 2016, 01:01:34 PM

Quote from: Kurtz on March 01, 2016, 11:21:55 AM
Strange that there were no highlights of this game anywhere

I thought the communists had been voted out

There were highlights of the game on RTE's League Sunday show.

7-55 scored in the game and RTE showed a little over a minute of highlights.

7-55??

Would be some scoring if true!  :)

Row 4-25 Cork 3-30

Cork by 2

Blanket defense me arse!

I thought the rossies scored 4-45. Who is Row  :P

Touché! ;D

(Stupid autocorrect  >:( )

Some of us are smart enuff to do our own spelling corrections.

Quote from: Main Street on March 01, 2016, 09:06:07 PM
Some of us are smart enuff to do our own spelling corrections.

I'd be something else if Roscommon and Monaghan found themselves playing against each other again in the league. That'd really set the cat amongst the pigeons.

Quote from: Syferus on March 01, 2016, 09:10:19 PM

Quote from: Main Street on March 01, 2016, 09:06:07 PM
Some of us are smart enuff to do our own spelling corrections.

I'd be something else if Roscommon and Monaghan found themselves playing against each other again in the league. That'd really set the cat amongst the pigeons.

Only if the Rossies won :)

Looks like game going to be moved to Kiltoom, weather forecast not favourable.

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 01, 2016, 10:44:46 PM
Looks like game going to be moved to Kiltoom, weather forecast not favourable.

Pitch would suit us better in fairness.

Going to be another all-ticket affair so.

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 01, 2016, 10:44:46 PM
Looks like game going to be moved to Kiltoom, weather forecast not favourable.

F F Sake.
So embarrassing.

Don`t worry about it Rossfan, we`ve had bigger embarassments
than having to change venue. As long as we get the 2 points..Think the Hyde Park mightn`t
have helped us anyway. Kiltoom pitch should suit better.

As long as we don't want many supporters seeing the team :-\
We could always use Carrick as we do so well away from home......

Got my tickets today. Let the hype build up sure. Kiltoom is a grand ground for football any day of the year. Even on the best day of the year the Hyde is poor.

The slavish Syfín love affair of Naomh Brìd continues apace.
Kiltoom is no place for a Division 1 NFL game.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
The slavish Syfín love affair of Naomh Brìd continues apace.
Kiltoom is no place for a Division 1 NFL game.

You're living in lala land if you think the Hyde is.

Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2016, 07:44:32 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
The slavish Syfín love affair of Naomh Brìd continues apace.
Kiltoom is no place for a Division 1 NFL game.

You're living in lala land if you think the Hyde is.

Hyde - licensed capacity 24,000. Loads of parking all over the town on hard surfaces, can be away in 5 minutes...
Kiltoom - licence cap 2,900 !!, park in a field down a country lane, takes 40 minutes to get away and you might need a few stewards to push the car if your wheels start spinning.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2016, 08:25:25 PM

Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2016, 07:44:32 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
The slavish Syfín love affair of Naomh Brìd continues apace.
Kiltoom is no place for a Division 1 NFL game.

You're living in lala land if you think the Hyde is.

Hyde - licensed capacity 24,000. Loads of parking all over the town on hard surfaces, can be away in 5 minutes...
Kiltoom - licence cap 2,900 !!, park in a field down a country lane, takes 40 minutes to get away and you might need a few stewards to push the car if your wheels start spinning.

Bring the tractor.

The Hyde in its current state can only be described as depressing. Kiltoom cannot.

Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2016, 06:13:00 PM
Got my tickets today. Let the hype build up sure. Kiltoom is a grand ground for football any day of the year. Even on the best day of the year the Hyde is poor.

Obviously not in club rossie if you had to buy a ticket, the truth is coming out now, you must have spent all your money on Mayos club cairde

Fckin hell, ye would want to get the Hyde in order for Easter Sunday, as bad and all as it is, imagine the traffic jams in South Roscommon for a Mayo-Ros league game there!

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2016, 08:45:46 PM
Fckin hell, ye would want to get the Hyde in order for Easter Sunday, as bad and all as it is, imagine the traffic jams in South Roscommon for a Mayo-Ros league game there!

Move it to Croker.

We'd bring ye to Limerick in that case Farr  ;D We haven't lost a game in Munster since God was a gasùn!!

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 02, 2016, 08:45:46 PM
Fckin hell, ye would want to get the Hyde in order for Easter Sunday, as bad and all as it is, imagine the traffic jams in South Roscommon for a Mayo-Ros league game there!

South Roscommon, Farr??- Has Kiltoom not moved to Westmeath yet......

Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2016, 08:29:27 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2016, 08:25:25 PM

Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2016, 07:44:32 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 02, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
The slavish Syfín love affair of Naomh Brìd continues apace.
Kiltoom is no place for a Division 1 NFL game.

You're living in lala land if you think the Hyde is.

Hyde - licensed capacity 24,000. Loads of parking all over the town on hard surfaces, can be away in 5 minutes...
Kiltoom - licence cap 2,900 !!, park in a field down a country lane, takes 40 minutes to get away and you might need a few stewards to push the car if your wheels start spinning.

Bring the tractor.

The Hyde in its current state can only be described as depressing. Kiltoom cannot.

Is Ros doing Dorian Grey? The more matches the team wins, the worse the state of the Hyde.

Novenas needed for the Hyde to make it.
Otherwise it's Pearse Pk as I understand the Gardai have put an end to the Kiltoomery chaos on the N61.

Glennon Bros Pearse Park in Longford....the one with the closed stand & terrace?

Only other choice is Castlefknbar >:( :(

Ros better try and secure their safety this weekend. If we beat Down, we`re on 6 points, which should be enough to stay up.
This is especially crucial when viewed with the Hyde Park situation. If this broken weather continues for another few weeks, it`s almost certain that we`ll have to move outside the county to play our `` Home`` games against Mayo and Dublin.

Also heard a rumour today, that the Donegal/Roscommon game may have to be switched from Letterkenny to Ballybofey to accomodate the expected large attendance. May even be an all ticket game.

Quote from: Beffs on March 03, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Glennon Bros Pearse Park in Longford....

I hear it's now definite.

One thing for certain is that Hyde Park is doing us no favours in our efforts to stay in Division 1

Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

It is a disaster of a ground, people were getting stuck in the field after the late game (aka the carpark) and it took 45 minutes to leave said field. It's just about capable of holding club games now with the restrictions of parkinfun on the main road, feel sorry for Syferus,  game is no longer going ahead in his local club ground which is the other side of the county from him on his beloved Mayo/Roscommon border

The Gardai in the Athlone vacincity have little to worry their pretty little heads about, plain and simple.

We'll be playing Galway there in the U21 championship in a week and a half with at least a couple thousand so this really makes our protectors look frankly idiotic and I don't say that about people who have a very hard job to do lightly.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2016, 06:49:43 PM

Quote from: Beffs on March 03, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Glennon Bros Pearse Park in Longford....

I hear it's now definite.

First of all they want to move south Roscommon into Westmeath...now they want to move their home games to Longford. Leinster may be closer to Mayo if things keep going the way they are! ;)

On a serious note, is it construction issues or a wet pitch that's the problem with Hyde Park?

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 03, 2016, 09:21:37 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2016, 06:49:43 PM

Quote from: Beffs on March 03, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Glennon Bros Pearse Park in Longford....

I hear it's now definite.

First of all they want to move south Roscommon into Westmeath...now they want to move their home games to Longford. Leinster may be closer to Mayo if things keep going the way they are! ;)

On a serious note, is it construction issues or a wet pitch that's the problem with Hyde Park?

The pitch isn't fit to graze cattle.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

It wasn't big enough - it was all ticket 2,902 limit due to H&S and all that.
Its down a narrow country roadeen and parking only allowed in a field which after the last 3 wet months.........
And as someone said 45 minutes to get out of the fieldeen.
Longford is nearer than Kiltoom for an awful lot of the county.
Anyway we need to win this to give us a decent chance of staying up.

The pitch replacement in thr Hyde should start right after the Dublin game. The only game it would effect is if Ros qualify to play Sligo in the Connacht semi it would be a home game. This game if it happens could be played in Pairc Sean or Mchale park, it is only one game and already 3 games have been lost to the Hyde because of the pitch, this move would give an extra 2 months working and bedding in time to the new surface which could be vital for next years home nfl games etc.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2016, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

It wasn't big enough - it was all ticket 2,902 limit due to H&S and all that.
Its down a narrow country roadeen and parking only allowed in a field which after the last 3 wet months.........
And as someone said 45 minutes to get out of the fieldeen.
Longford is nearer than Kiltoom for an awful lot of the county.
Anyway we need to win this to give us a decent chance of staying up.

The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM
The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

What choice did they have? The Hyde is unplayable & HQ wouldn't let the game be played in Kiltoom. The Co Board can't just thumb their nose at Croke Park, no matter how much they - and their supporters - may want to.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2016, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

It wasn't big enough - it was all ticket 2,902 limit due to H&S and all that.
Its down a narrow country roadeen and parking only allowed in a field which after the last 3 wet months.........
And as someone said 45 minutes to get out of the fieldeen.
Longford is nearer than Kiltoom for an awful lot of the county.
Anyway we need to win this to give us a decent chance of staying up.

The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

As I said, it wan't our choice at all. We would be playing it in Kiltoom if we could.

Quote from: Beffs on March 04, 2016, 12:23:00 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM
The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

What choice did they have? The Hyde is unplayable & HQ wouldn't let the game be played in Kiltoom. The Co Board can't just thumb their nose at Croke Park, no matter how much they - and their supporters - may want to.

The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 12:54:18 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2016, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

It wasn't big enough - it was all ticket 2,902 limit due to H&S and all that.
Its down a narrow country roadeen and parking only allowed in a field which after the last 3 wet months.........
And as someone said 45 minutes to get out of the fieldeen.
Longford is nearer than Kiltoom for an awful lot of the county.
Anyway we need to win this to give us a decent chance of staying up.

The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

As I said, it wan't our choice at all. We would be playing it in Kiltoom if we could.

Quote from: Beffs on March 04, 2016, 12:23:00 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM
The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

What choice did they have? The Hyde is unplayable & HQ wouldn't let the game be played in Kiltoom. The Co Board can't just thumb their nose at Croke Park, no matter how much they - and their supporters - may want to.

The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

I'd listen to the Gardai before I'd listen to an uninformed person on the internet, like you

Regardless of where it is there has to be 100% focus on getting the 2 pts. God knows where the last 2 home games will be played so every chance Ross will get 0pts from their last 3 games
Get the 2 pts stay in Div 1 and start the Hyde as soon as possible

Quote from: Rossie11 on March 04, 2016, 08:31:08 AM
Regardless of where it is there has to be 100% focus on getting the 2 pts. God knows where the last 2 home games will be played so every chance Ross will get 0pts from their last 3 games
Get the 2 pts stay in Div 1 and start the Hyde as soon as possible

+1.
What's the H&S limit on Tuam nowadays? Play the Rhus there and the Jackeens in Carrick.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 04, 2016, 08:02:18 AM

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 12:54:18 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 03, 2016, 10:12:11 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
Longford pearse park in div one who would have thought they would see that day? but seriously how is Kiltoom deemed not big enough when it has already hosted the Monaghan game and Down support will hardly travel in their numbers after a bad start to the league.

It wasn't big enough - it was all ticket 2,902 limit due to H&S and all that.
Its down a narrow country roadeen and parking only allowed in a field which after the last 3 wet months.........
And as someone said 45 minutes to get out of the fieldeen.
Longford is nearer than Kiltoom for an awful lot of the county.
Anyway we need to win this to give us a decent chance of staying up.

The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

As I said, it wan't our choice at all. We would be playing it in Kiltoom if we could.

Quote from: Beffs on March 04, 2016, 12:23:00 AM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 03, 2016, 11:54:24 PM
The Monaghan game was big enough. It was tg4 no supporters behind either goal.I think Roscommon are shooting themselves in the foot for giving up home advantage that easily.

What choice did they have? The Hyde is unplayable & HQ wouldn't let the game be played in Kiltoom. The Co Board can't just thumb their nose at Croke Park, no matter how much they - and their supporters - may want to.

The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

I'd listen to the Gardai before I'd listen to an uninformed person on the internet, like you

That sentence makes absolutely no sense.

It's 100% correct Syfín.
I'd ask people not to be too hard on Syfín as he's very upset over not getting to slaver all over his beloved Kiltoom. ;D

Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2016, 10:56:36 AM
It's 100% correct Syfín.
I'd ask people not to be too hard on Syfín as he's very upset over not getting to slaver all over his beloved Kiltoom. ;D

I never said they weren't listening to the Gardai. Time to go back to English class ladeen.

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 12:54:18 AM
The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

Of course HQ give a fcuk. They have to. The game can't go ahead unless a public liability insurance cert is is issued for the game being at that venue. The cert won't be issued unless the Guards, the Health and Safety boffins, & the local authorites in charge of crowd control, are all on board with the venue being suitable & safe for size of the expected crowd. If they aren't, then it's no insurance cert and therefore no green light from HQ.

Quote from: Beffs on March 04, 2016, 02:49:52 PM

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 12:54:18 AM
The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

Of course HQ give a fcuk. They have to. The game can't go ahead unless a public liability insurance cert is is issued for the game being at that venue. The cert won't be issued unless the Guards, the Health and Safety boffins, & the local authorites in charge of crowd control, are all on board with the venue being suitable & safe for size of the expected crowd. If they aren't, then it's no insurance cert and therefore no green light from HQ.

It was all due to the Gardai. Everything else is just an effect. There was very few people in Croke Park worrying about people parking down a country lane on the banks of Lugh Ree.

A few weeks ago, the Roscommon Co Board issued a statement about Hyde Park.
They said that work on the pitch would commence in late June. Presumably, this is to
facilitate, hopefully, a Connacht Semi final against Sligo Iin June.

It`s bad enough giving up home advantage for League games, but if the work on Hyde Park is brought
forward, it means that we will also have to give up home advantage for a Championship match
against a team who beat us last Summer.

Quote from: Beffs on March 04, 2016, 02:49:52 PM

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 12:54:18 AM
The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

Of course HQ give a fcuk. They have to. The game can't go ahead unless a public liability insurance cert is is issued for the game being at that venue. The cert won't be issued unless the Guards, the Health and Safety boffins, & the local authorites in charge of crowd control, are all on board with the venue being suitable & safe for size of the expected crowd. If they aren't, then it's no insurance cert and therefore no green light from HQ.

Ah sure who the hell are Guards, GAA Administrators, Insurance Companies and Health and Safety experts when compared to
SUPERSYF !!!

Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2016, 04:00:08 PM

Quote from: Beffs on March 04, 2016, 02:49:52 PM

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 12:54:18 AM
The Gardai. HQ don't give a fúck.

Of course HQ give a fcuk. They have to. The game can't go ahead unless a public liability insurance cert is is issued for the game being at that venue. The cert won't be issued unless the Guards, the Health and Safety boffins, & the local authorites in charge of crowd control, are all on board with the venue being suitable & safe for size of the expected crowd. If they aren't, then it's no insurance cert and therefore no green light from HQ.

Ah sure who the hell are Guards, GAA Administrators, Insurance Companies and Health and Safety experts when compared to
SUPERSYF !!!

Still failing at the English comprehension I see.

The Sad thing here is the Longford hurlers have been turfed out of their own county ground to allow Roscommon and Down play football there.

Some unkind people might say putting the words Longford and hurling in the same sentence is sad.
Of course nobody in Ros would say that ;)
Thanks for obliging us folks.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2016, 10:10:05 PM
Some unkind people might say putting the words Longford and hurling in the same sentence is sad.
Of course nobody in Ros would say that ;)
Thanks for obliging us folks.

..with their stadium that's literally sinking into oblivion. You couldn't write this shite.

Justice for the Longford hurlers!

Seriously, not too many pitches in good nick at the moment.

Quote from: Syferus on March 04, 2016, 10:52:47 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 04, 2016, 10:10:05 PM
Some unkind people might say putting the words Longford and hurling in the same sentence is sad.
Of course nobody in Ros would say that ;)
Thanks for obliging us folks.

..with their stadium that's literally sinking into oblivion. You couldn't write this shite.

At least the players won't sink like in the Hyde....

Time to demolish Jurassic Park and build a 20,000 all-seater stadium in Kiltoom.

Quote from: Jinxy on March 04, 2016, 11:26:05 PM
Time to demolish Jurassic Park and build a 20,000 all-seater stadium in Kiltoom.

And call it Pàirc Shyfìn :D

Congrats to team and management and all involved today, we are in bonus territory from here on.
Heading for the hills of Donegal next Sunday with a spring in our step. :)

Has stolensheep closed down?

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 07, 2016, 09:22:42 PM
Has stolensheep closed down?

http://stolen-sheep.proboards.com

Came back after a few days.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 07, 2016, 09:22:42 PM
Has stolensheep closed down?

Yes and without warning, new site stolen-sheep up and running now.

Right, which one of ye was over in Sussex recently? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/08/116-sheep-die-worst-sheep-worrying-living-memory (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/08/116-sheep-die-worst-sheep-worrying-living-memory)

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 09, 2016, 09:52:42 AM
Right, which one of ye was over in Sussex recently? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/08/116-sheep-die-worst-sheep-worrying-living-memory (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/08/116-sheep-die-worst-sheep-worrying-living-memory)

All set for division 4? ; ;D

Something to think about, an alternative team none of whom played any part in letterkenny last Sunday.
                   O Malley
Mullooly  N. Carty Cafferky
Keenan I Kilbride R. Daly
  C. Shine   Higgins
Corcoran  Harney D. Smith
D. Murtagh  D. Shine Mchugh.
Some lads are out of position but it is still a good team and some great players, just goes to show the panel of players that has gradually built up over the last few years. There is no player nailed on to start and that is a good thing.

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 17, 2016, 12:49:47 AM
Something to think about, an alternative team none of whom played any part in letterkenny last Sunday.
                   O Malley
Mullooly  N. Carty Cafferky
Keenan I Kilbride R. Daly
  C. Shine   Higgins
Corcoran  Harney D. Smith
D. Murtagh  D. Shine Mchugh.
Some lads are out of position but it is still a good team and some great players, just goes to show the panel of players that has gradually built up over the last few years. There is no player nailed on to start and that is a good thing.

Both Creggs, Ciaran Murtagh, Seanie and Collins are nailed on. Dev not far off it too.

It will be totally on form, not so long ago a player would start regardless of form or injury, if he could walk on the pitch and he was one of the names then he started, not any more, any dip in form and there is a player waiting to deliver.

Is Harney on the team for Sligo match tomorrow, has anyone info on team?

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 18, 2016, 09:01:07 PM
Is Harney on the team for Sligo match tomorrow, has anyone info on team?

Yes, McGrath is out, stack named at corner back.

Nice to get a bit of a respect, at least some of you Rossies are well mannered.

O'Donnell: Rossies modelled on Farney (http://hoganstand.com/Monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252468)

Quote from: Main Street on March 22, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
Nice to get a bit of a respect, at least some of you Rossies are well mannered.

O'Donnell: Rossies modelled on Farney (http://hoganstand.com/Monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252468)

Say hello to Jinxy for us next year.

Quote from: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 06:27:45 PM

Quote from: Main Street on March 22, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
Nice to get a bit of a respect, at least some of you Rossies are well mannered.

O'Donnell: Rossies modelled on Farney (http://hoganstand.com/Monaghan/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252468)

Say hello to Jinxy for us next year.

That'll be us, or the Sligo lads with the way Meath are going!

Hyde park was am embarrassment today, I say close it now, play our u21 game in tuam and go where ever for the dublin game, it was unplayable today and that game should have been moved, if it meant conceding venue to Mayo then that is what should have been done.
We were very poor today, was Senan injured? not even on the bench. Our handling, our passing our workrate were all way behind the performances of the last few weeks, its said you can learn more from defeat but it was pretty stark today. Well beaten by a team that  for the most part are incapable of scoring.
We will be more than likely playing Kerry in the semi-final in Croke park, that game will tell us where we really are. It will be interesting to say the least.

Only for Mayowestros' forwards were as wild as ever we'd have been embarrassed today. Seldom saw such a one sided game.
At least 5 people proved today why they are fringe players and when the relevant u21 players step up those bucks will be  sent back to club football where they belong.
Big reality check as thebig boys start to play when the clocks go forward.
Still we survived in D 1 with 2 games to go so a good League all told.

P s when did Congress pass that new Rule that exempts Rhubarbs from the 4 steps obligation??!?

Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2016, 09:49:37 PM
Only for Mayowestros' forwards were as wild as ever we'd have been embarrassed today. Seldom saw such a one sided game.
At least 5 people proved today why they are fringe players and when the relevant u21 players step up those bucks will be  sent back to club football where they belong.
Big reality check as thebig boys start to play when the clocks go forward.
Still we survived in D 1 with 2 games to go so a good League all told.

P s when did Congress pass that new Rule that exempts Rhubarbs from the 4 steps obligation??!?

He was well able to blow Smith up in the first half for a few steps, the blind backstard

13 steps and he hoped the ball once, its makes no difference and this game will be forgotten by friday.

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 28, 2016, 12:47:11 AM
13 steps and he hoped the ball once, its makes no difference and this game will be forgotten by friday.

he shud have got a bonus point for been ABLE to hop the ball in that bog snorkelling arena!

Quote from: sans pessimism on March 28, 2016, 02:30:24 AM

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 28, 2016, 12:47:11 AM
13 steps and he hoped the ball once, its makes no difference and this game will be forgotten by friday.

he shud have got a bonus point for been ABLE to hop the ball in that bog snorkelling arena!

The father graced the Hyde often for Ros Gaels himself. I hope he wasn't feeding wee Evan tips.

Roscommon for Sam 2016.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 28, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Roscommon for Sam 2016.

I was watching Four Falls of Buffalo recently, a documentary about the Buffalo Bills team that made four Superbowls in a row the early 90s but lost them all, most by cricket scores but one that was lost on a single play. The Bills have never won a Superbowl but by the time they'd lost the second in a row the people who supported them as underdogs were sick of them ruining the Superbowl by continually getting there and turned against the Bills. It was sad to see.

Quote from: Syferus on March 28, 2016, 11:34:00 AM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 28, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Roscommon for Sam 2016.

I was watching Four Falls of Buffalo recently, a documentary about the Buffalo Bills team that made four Superbowls in a row the early 90s but lost them all, most by cricket scores but one that was lost on a single play. The Bills have never won a Superbowl but by the time they'd lost the second in a row the people who supported them as underdogs were sick of them ruining the Superbowl by continually getting there and turned against the Bills. It was sad to see.

Sport is not a popularity contest! It is not based on who is liked the most by who wins. I don't care how fed up the media or Gaelic followers are of Mayo Making the later stages of the AI Championships and spoiling their spectacle. If your county is good enough to stop us on the way well and good. If not then put up and shut up. We get where we get on merit and I don't expect them to stand aside in order to accommodate anyone just yet.

Well it looks like our neighbours will survive in div 1, 2 things I will say about yesterdays game,
1. If the rossies needed to win that game to survive in div 1 it would not have been played in hyde park.
2. With the game a dead rubber as far as Ros were concerned the cb were anxious that the game stay in the county town to give back to the business people who have supported club Rossie all the way.
I am not saying in any way that the result would have been different if played at another venue {we were hammered on the day} but that pitch was not fit for purpose.
Now with Mayo and Ros safe I would love to see Galway promoted as well, 3 Connacht teams in div 1, it could only be good for football in the province and good for us all in the long run.
While all local battles are the fiercest at the end of the day we are all west of Ireland people and if we dont look after ourselves then I am sure no one else will.
Asked by a good friend from Mayo a couple of years ago would I be supporting them in the all ire final I answered, its like this if ye win I will be laughing with ye, if ye lose I will be laughing at ye, thats pretty much the way it is.

Quote from: giveballaghback on March 28, 2016, 09:08:12 PM
Well it looks like our neighbours will survive in div 1, 2 things I will say about yesterdays game,
1. If the rossies needed to win that game to survive in div 1 it would not have been played in hyde park.
2. With the game a dead rubber as far as Ros were concerned the cb were anxious that the game stay in the county town to give back to the business people who have supported club Rossie all the way.
I am not saying in any way that the result would have been different if played at another venue {we were hammered on the day} but that pitch was not fit for purpose.
Now with Mayo and Ros safe I would love to see Galway promoted as well, 3 Connacht teams in div 1, it could only be good for football in the province and good for us all in the long run.
While all local battles are the fiercest at the end of the day we are all west of Ireland people and if we dont look after ourselves then I am sure no one else will.
Asked by a good friend from Mayo a couple of years ago would I be supporting them in the all ire final I answered, its like this if ye win I will be laughing with ye, if ye lose I will be laughing at ye, thats pretty much the way it is.

You do a lot of laughing at them so :)

Nobody in Mayo gives a shite what Ye think and what a load of desperate want for camaraderie nonsense that is we don't need any other Connacht teams doing well at all . Keep winning Nestor cups and putting Ye in your place that's all we want out of the Connacht championships.

Quote from: larryin89 on March 28, 2016, 09:49:37 PM
Nobody in Mayo gives a shite what Ye think and what a load of desperate want for camaraderie nonsense that is we don't need any other Connacht teams doing well at all . Keep winning Nestor cups and putting Ye in your place that's all we want out of the Connacht championships.

They do, otherwise you would not be here Sean posting shite along with the other gobdas.

Big fookin fancy yellow bus and no pitch to play on, couldn't make it up!  ;D

Quote from: fearsiuil on March 28, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
Big fookin fancy yellow bus and no pitch to play on, couldn't make it up!  ;D

And 3rd in Division 1 ;)

Quote from: Rossfan on March 28, 2016, 10:39:37 PM

Quote from: fearsiuil on March 28, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
Big fookin fancy yellow bus and no pitch to play on, couldn't make it up!  ;D

And 3rd in Division 1 ;)

No bronze medals given out for third place ;)

Quote from: fearsiuil on March 28, 2016, 10:42:57 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 28, 2016, 10:39:37 PM

Quote from: fearsiuil on March 28, 2016, 10:25:15 PM
Big fookin fancy yellow bus and no pitch to play on, couldn't make it up!  ;D

And 3rd in Division 1 ;)

No bronze medals given out for third place ;)

Sure did you not listen to John Evans. Third place in the league. What a shite target.

Quote from: Rudi on March 28, 2016, 10:12:50 PM

Quote from: larryin89 on March 28, 2016, 09:49:37 PM
Nobody in Mayo gives a shite what Ye think and what a load of desperate want for camaraderie nonsense that is we don't need any other Connacht teams doing well at all . Keep winning Nestor cups and putting Ye in your place that's all we want out of the Connacht championships.

They do, otherwise you would not be here Sean posting shite along with the other gobdas.

Of course we do Declan .

Any concern about a lack of pace in the Roscommon team?

They seemed generally slower than the Mayo lads. Probably unfair to judge in the poor conditions (although same for both teams) and perhaps just an off day

Quote from: Hound on March 29, 2016, 08:35:10 AM
Any concern about a lack of pace in the Roscommon team?

They seemed generally slower than the Mayo lads. Probably unfair to judge in the poor conditions (although same for both teams) and perhaps just an off day

It's hard for a high-flying team like the Rossies to get themselves motivated against a team like Mayo, struggling with relegation.

Quote from: Hound on March 29, 2016, 08:35:10 AM
Any concern about a lack of pace in the Roscommon team?

They seemed generally slower than the Mayo lads. Probably unfair to judge in the poor conditions (although same for both teams) and perhaps just an off day

What? Pace isn't what that lineup lacked. In fact if it was played on a proper pitch and their pace was allowed to tell it might have made for a different type of game. Lots of light, fast good footballers. Which is why Mayo was able to bully them so easily.

Problem is physical presence. No fit midfielders so we're cobbling together HBs and HFs and calling it a midfield.

Quote from: larryin89 on March 28, 2016, 09:49:37 PM
Nobody in Mayo gives a shite what Ye think and what a load of desperate want for camaraderie nonsense that is we don't need any other Connacht teams doing well at all . Keep winning Nestor cups and putting Ye in your place that's all we want out of the Connacht championships.

So after a successful drive for five it looks like the pricks want six.

Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2016, 10:15:39 PMWhat? Pace isn't what that lineup lacked. In fact if it was played on a proper pitch and their pace was allowed to tell it might have made for a different type of game. Lots of light, fast good footballers. Which is why Mayo was able to bully them so easily.

Problem is physical presence. No fit midfielders so we're cobbling together HBs and HFs and calling it a midfield.

Would any of the other options for midfield be back in time for the semi-final?

Quote from: twohands!!! on March 30, 2016, 11:52:27 AM

Quote from: Syferus on March 29, 2016, 10:15:39 PMWhat? Pace isn't what that lineup lacked. In fact if it was played on a proper pitch and their pace was allowed to tell it might have made for a different type of game. Lots of light, fast good footballers. Which is why Mayo was able to bully them so easily.

Problem is physical presence. No fit midfielders so we're cobbling together HBs and HFs and calling it a midfield.

Would any of the other options for midfield be back in time for the semi-final?

The two Shines, Thomas Corcoran and Ultan Harney (a CF) are all back training and have played club games or U21 games in Harney's case. Cathal Compton came on as a sub on Sunday but he's an U21 so he's definitely not starting Sunday with the U21 final the day before. The management are unlikely to start them if they're not looking good in training, though.

Had to laugh at Kevin McStay's interview where he was talking about Donie Shine's fitness and how being in 'Donie Shine' shape isn't going to cut the mustard anymore.
Poor Donie.  ;D

Applies to our other 2 big lads as well :)

I think this is the thread Roscommon should be putting their defensive conundrums on. Ros v Kerry was over at ht unfortunately.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 14, 2016, 04:18:17 PM
I think this is the thread Roscommon should be putting their defensive conundrums on. Ros v Kerry was over at ht unfortunately.

Ballagh back should lock the other thread before Syfín explodes.
Mind you ye should see some of his stuff on stolensheep ;D
Senan Kilbride for midfield because he's so mobile....

Quote from: Rossfan on April 14, 2016, 04:44:58 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on April 14, 2016, 04:18:17 PM
I think this is the thread Roscommon should be putting their defensive conundrums on. Ros v Kerry was over at ht unfortunately.

Ballagh back should lock the other thread before Syfín explodes.
Mind you ye should see some of his stuff on stolensheep ;D
Senan Kilbride for midfield because he's so mobile....

..as opposed to Donie Shine who's challenging Usain Bolt in sprints..

You are dead right farreendeen, match was over at ht, Kerry put the brakes on as soon as they got the first 2 scores in the second half and saw there was no fight back in Roscommon.
It was a good time of year for Ros to be exposed if it had to happen.
Can Ros learn the lessons they were taught by the masters last Sunday? Have Ros the players to react to those lessons?
Only time will tell, roll on the summer. Thats why this is such a great sport.

We're ready to start work on the Hyde after 13th June.
When all the stone, sand and drains are laid we're going to get a roll out pitch laid like they do in Croker and English soccer clubs.
Then all set for the 1st NFL game in Feb 2017.
We'll probably rent it out to our neighbours when we're playing away :D

Meanwhile the rhubarbs will be watching Connacht rugby in Mchale park according to a source close to Connacht rugby.
I hear we are getting 4 home league games again next year.
Our first championship game on that Hyde park sod was against Sligo in 1971 and now our last game on the old pitch will be Sligo again. Before ye ask Sligo won the first one.

I recall a man telling me it was Sligo's first win over Ros since the mad marathon year of 1925.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-gaa-could-take-a-leaf-out-of-connacht-s-book-1.2660872

The Roscommon Herald carried seven full pages on their win over Leitrim in the Connacht championship last Sunday . . . and not a dickie-bird on the Pro 12 final.

Proper order.
Galway City is not in the Herald's area.
Didn't have anything about Galway football, Hurley or head the ball either.
Proud to be from a true Irish County
Pity about blow ins like Syfín ...
. :-[

Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2016, 11:29:44 AM
Proper order.
Galway City is not in the Herald's area.
Didn't have anything about Galway football, Hurley or head the ball either.
Proud to be from a true Irish County
Pity about blow ins like Syfín ...
. :-[

Country music on local radio is not acceptable for a true Irish county  :o
Has to be as Gaeilge

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-gaa-could-take-a-leaf-out-of-connacht-s-book-1.2660872

The Roscommon Herald carried seven full pages on their win over Leitrim in the Connacht championship last Sunday . . . and not a dickie-bird on the Pro 12 final.

Hard to know what his overall point in that article is. If it's that we have too many large stadia then he's probably right.Not sure why he feels the need to turn a positive story about connacht rugby into a negative article

Rugby isn't a big deal in Roscommon. Cry me a river.

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-gaa-could-take-a-leaf-out-of-connacht-s-book-1.2660872

The Roscommon Herald carried seven full pages on their win over Leitrim in the Connacht championship last Sunday . . . and not a dickie-bird on the Pro 12 final.

Ian Cooney still had an article on rugby in there on Eric Elwood and rugby camps and Willie in his column gave Connacht rugby team his performance of the week. That was plenty  - the national papers have us bombarded with rugby.

Quote from: weareros on May 26, 2016, 01:08:42 PM

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-gaa-could-take-a-leaf-out-of-connacht-s-book-1.2660872

The Roscommon Herald carried seven full pages on their win over Leitrim in the Connacht championship last Sunday . . . and not a dickie-bird on the Pro 12 final.

Ian Cooney still had an article on rugby in there on Eric Elwood and rugby camps and Willie in his column gave Connacht rugby team his performance of the week. That was plenty  - the national papers have us bombarded with rugby.

Why always Ros?

Quote from: Syferus on May 26, 2016, 01:10:20 PM

Quote from: weareros on May 26, 2016, 01:08:42 PM

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2016, 11:18:47 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-gaa-could-take-a-leaf-out-of-connacht-s-book-1.2660872

The Roscommon Herald carried seven full pages on their win over Leitrim in the Connacht championship last Sunday . . . and not a dickie-bird on the Pro 12 final.

Ian Cooney still had an article on rugby in there on Eric Elwood and rugby camps and Willie in his column gave Connacht rugby team his performance of the week. That was plenty  - the national papers have us bombarded with rugby.

Why always Ros?

Why always Ros what?

Quote from: seafoid on May 26, 2016, 11:55:44 AM

Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2016, 11:29:44 AM
Proper order.
Galway City is not in the Herald's area.
Didn't have anything about Galway football, Hurley or head the ball either.
Proud to be from a true Irish County
Pity about blow ins like Syfín ...
. :-[

Country music on local radio is not acceptable for a true Irish county  :o
Has to be as Gaeilge

Shannonside based in real cowboy hat County of Longford.
I always switch to RnaG when that caterwauling starts up.

Nice profile

www.crypticclique.com is his website

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-professionals-no-longer-dedicated-followers-of-career-path-1.2662365
With the elite Gaelic footballer being amateur yet professional, his actual profession seems guaranteed to suffer. Major sponsors, like AIB, employ some but most players remain as students until their legs are flogged.
In the case of Neil Patrick Collins, the line blurs. Always has.
"I work in the fashion industry," the Roscommon full back explained. "I study a Masters in fashion business, I work for Brown Thomas with their men's brands and I got my own clothing brand as well that I put a lot of energy into.
"This T-shirt is mine," he smiles, protruding his chest. "Yeah, it's cool, baggy and relaxed looking."
The 26-year-old is quick to laugh at himself but beneath the engaging exterior there exists a ferocious work ethic. There has to be. Life as an intercounty footballer has become a ridiculously demanding pursuit where every-day expenses are barely covered.
Borders on madness
So to embark on a career in fashion or any profession borders on madness. Add family life into the equation and it no longer seems possible. Something inevitably snaps (usually a cruciate).
"I definitely find it challenging sometimes to devote a lot of time to it," Collins admitted. "We are expected to put in a lot of time into it and if you have other things that you are focused on it can sometimes take away from that.
"I suppose the bottom line is I don't have to play for Roscommon if I choose to focus on something else. It's a conscious decision for me to put that time and energy into playing with my county."
But an overriding impression is that really talented players are compelled to live up to their underage pedigree.
"I am not compelled," Collins disagreed. "I am compelled to do whatever I want to do. I play football for a reason. I really enjoy it.

"I make a decision to put that time and energy into it. When you are enjoying it and the team is rising it makes it a lot easier."
The Paul Galvin comparison is mentioned. "Yeah, he is getting on well with his brand in Dunnes Stores. I have always interested to see what he is doing as we have similar interests."
His own website, in partnership with Jamie Maguire, is crypticclique.com. "It's challenging to find the time but we are still working on it."
A double life of sorts, this makes Collins a rarity in Gaelic games.
"Maybe so. I would say my lifestyle outside of sport is quite different. I guess I have to be very current in my interests outside sport because that's the industry I am in.
"But when I come back to playing for Roscommon I try to be as conservative as possible, get it done, which is challenging as well!
"When I play football I believe I am a tough competitor. I am very focused when I am on the football pitch so I really don't think it matters what I do outside of that. Nobody really cares what I do so long as I am tough mentally and physically."

Best back Castlerea have produced since Harry Keegan.

Not much competition since Harry's day.

Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2016, 02:02:33 PM
Not much competition since Harry's day.

Cake would count.

If he hadn't effd offon them >:(

Speaking of the boul' Cake, will he be on TSG again talking about triangles?

Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2016, 10:17:42 AM
Speaking of the boul' Cake, will he be on TSG again talking about triangles?

http://www.hoganstand.com/roscommon/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=255812

Only if there's going to be an Autumn Election ::)

The only consolation prize out of today's raffle  (copyright W. Hegarty) is that Ros have one more chance to get to that elusive last 8.

Lads, did ye sign up for this yet?
Buy a square patch of grass from the Hyde.

http://clubrossie.ie/buy-pitch-space/ (http://clubrossie.ie/buy-pitch-space/)

Just bought mine there.

(http://www.evergreenbiofuels.ie/images/miscanthus_02.jpg)

Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Lads, did ye sign up for this yet?
Buy a square patch of grass from the Hyde.

http://clubrossie.ie/buy-pitch-space/ (http://clubrossie.ie/buy-pitch-space/)

Just bought mine there.

(http://www.evergreenbiofuels.ie/images/miscanthus_02.jpg)

Is that not a grassy bank in Navan?

Grassy knoll would be more like it with them feckers

Quote from: Jinxy on January 25, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
Lads, did ye sign up for this yet?
Buy a square patch of grass from the Hyde.

http://clubrossie.ie/buy-pitch-space/ (http://clubrossie.ie/buy-pitch-space/)

Just bought mine there.

(http://www.evergreenbiofuels.ie/images/miscanthus_02.jpg)

Sure poor people from the wesht had to move to Meath to find lumps of grass like that.

Heard on Newstalk this morning that Niall Daly has walked from the panel.
What's going on in Roscommon?

Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2017, 02:45:03 PM
Heard on Newstalk this morning that Niall Daly has walked from the panel.
What's going on in Roscommon?

Daly's still on the panel.

http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-sport/daly-departs-roscommon-squad-ahead-donegal-match/ (http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-sport/daly-departs-roscommon-squad-ahead-donegal-match/)

Your like an undertaker Jinksy, you love bad news, Daly had a row, went off in a huff, apologised and returned, thats all, now worry about the tayto mens performance tomorrow.

Quote from: Jinxy on February 11, 2017, 02:51:07 PM
http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-sport/daly-departs-roscommon-squad-ahead-donegal-match/ (http://www.shannonside.ie/sport/roscommon-sport/daly-departs-roscommon-squad-ahead-donegal-match/)

News changes fast in Roscommon. The media aren't able to keep up.

#fakenews

There is always a lot of ffs news in roscommon. ;D

Great Niall is back but still an awful situation McStay has let develop with the Daly brothers. He should fix this while he has time. Many a management floundered on taking an unnecessary hardline with players: Johno with Ciaran Mac, Maughan with Frankie. We need our best players on panel. Move on lads.

I think this incident has shown if you want to play for Ros you can. To me it would appear McStay is not the blocker to the return of any player

Jesus lads East Enders would struggle to keep up with the drama

Would it be fair to say a loss in Castlebar the next day would mean yer all but down?

The Hyde looked well I have to say.

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on February 12, 2017, 08:32:53 PM
Jesus lads East Enders would struggle to keep up with the drama

Would it be fair to say a loss in Castlebar the next day would mean yer all but down?
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We are better than Cavan and I don't think much of Monaghan. We should have beaten Donegal well today even though long term I would accept they have a better side than us. We could possibly trip a complacent or under strength Kerry team up. So 6 points to play for.

If we have a panel at all by then.......

Shocking management skills by McStay telling media that Niall Daly left because he wasn't guaranteed a starting place. I doubt that's the full truth and a poor attempt by manager to portray himself as innocent party and player as guilty party. A young experimental Donegal team scored 16 points against us, and should have been 1-22 - and the manager is at this crack with one of our best if not best backs. Monaghan and Cavan despite the snore fest yesterday are likely stronger than Donegal. Still a lot of positives yesterday but will never get anywhere with the amounts we are conceding.

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
Shocking management skills by McStay telling media that Niall Daly left because he wasn't guaranteed a starting place. I doubt that's the full truth and a poor attempt by manager to portray himself as innocent party and player as guilty party. A young experimental Donegal team scored 16 points against us, and should have been 1-22 - and the manager is at this crack with one of our best if not best backs. Monaghan and Cavan despite the snore fest yesterday are likely stronger than Donegal. Still a lot of positives yesterday but will never get anywhere with the amounts we are conceding.

Find out the full truths before going on a national forum slating the manager.

Quote from: oliverkelly on February 13, 2017, 01:28:15 PM

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
Shocking management skills by McStay telling media that Niall Daly left because he wasn't guaranteed a starting place. I doubt that's the full truth and a poor attempt by manager to portray himself as innocent party and player as guilty party. A young experimental Donegal team scored 16 points against us, and should have been 1-22 - and the manager is at this crack with one of our best if not best backs. Monaghan and Cavan despite the snore fest yesterday are likely stronger than Donegal. Still a lot of positives yesterday but will never get anywhere with the amounts we are conceding.

Find out the full truths before going on a national forum slating the manager.

All public domain Oliver thanks to the manager speaking to the media.

The truth is McStay went to the media and painted a picture that Niall Daly went off in a huff because he wasn't starting, and further that he was now taking time off to decide whether he wanted to fight for his place. That's a shocking thing to say. It was very similar to what John O'Mahony did in the media with Ciaran McDonald, didn't want to attend trials to fight for his place. Niall Daly and his brothers have played for Roscommon all through under-age, and have always fought for their place. They don't need to be belittled like this in the media - especially by a manager whose championship record so far is getting hammered by Clare, and hanging on to beat New York by a point.

Quote from: oliverkelly on February 13, 2017, 01:28:15 PM

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
Shocking management skills by McStay telling media that Niall Daly left because he wasn't guaranteed a starting place. I doubt that's the full truth and a poor attempt by manager to portray himself as innocent party and player as guilty party. A young experimental Donegal team scored 16 points against us, and should have been 1-22 - and the manager is at this crack with one of our best if not best backs. Monaghan and Cavan despite the snore fest yesterday are likely stronger than Donegal. Still a lot of positives yesterday but will never get anywhere with the amounts we are conceding.

Find out the full truths before going on a national forum slating the manager.

Can you really try to blame Kevin McStay, when with the game level and you are 1+ minute into 3 mins of added time, you have two or three I forget players bearing down on the Donegal goal and you simply cannot punch or kick the ball over the bar, to take a one point lead.

If it happened in a junior club game you would fu*k the head off the player never mind a senior inter county game.

He's blaming McS for his comments in the Daly situation not the match events.
If only Stack even had tossed the ball over the bar......
Mind you our forward display was abysmal in the second half and was sort of covered up by Conor D's wonder goal.
How many attacks had we and we got 3 feckin scores?
Div 2 here we come.

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 01:39:22 PM

Quote from: oliverkelly on February 13, 2017, 01:28:15 PM

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
Shocking management skills by McStay telling media that Niall Daly left because he wasn't guaranteed a starting place. I doubt that's the full truth and a poor attempt by manager to portray himself as innocent party and player as guilty party. A young experimental Donegal team scored 16 points against us, and should have been 1-22 - and the manager is at this crack with one of our best if not best backs. Monaghan and Cavan despite the snore fest yesterday are likely stronger than Donegal. Still a lot of positives yesterday but will never get anywhere with the amounts we are conceding.

Find out the full truths before going on a national forum slating the manager.

All public domain Oliver thanks to the manager speaking to the media.

The truth is McStay went to the media and painted a picture that Niall Daly went off in a huff because he wasn't starting, and further that he was now taking time off to decide whether he wanted to fight for his place. That's a shocking thing to say. It was very similar to what John O'Mahony did in the media with Ciaran McDonald, didn't want to attend trials to fight for his place. Niall Daly and his brothers have played for Roscommon all through under-age, and have always fought for their place. They don't need to be belittled like this in the media - especially by a manager whose championship record so far is getting hammered by Clare, and hanging on to beat New York by a point.

I don t think O Mahoney and McDonald should be dragged in here. Asking McDonald to attend trials was either stupidity or a cynical ploy. Not sure which is worse. Niall Daly is not a Ciaran McDonald. Not a good analogy.Anyway Johnno managed to drive us back into the stone age, and while we recovered quickly after, those lost years cost us imo. The other thing that springs to mind is Mick McCarty dropping Denis Irwin and asking Irwin to prove himself/ 'prove me wrong' - depending whose version you believe.
But the bottom line is that McStay should have said nothing to the media. This nonsense of players fighting for their place is bullshit really and surprised managers go down that line. It should be about players able to perform and compete at a required level and able to do what they are asked to do if they are starting or coming on as a sub. It's bad if a lad sulks if he is not starting and even worse if a manager panders to the idea that starting a match is a rewardl in itself.

Quote from: moysider on February 14, 2017, 12:32:10 AM

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 01:39:22 PM

Quote from: oliverkelly on February 13, 2017, 01:28:15 PM

Quote from: weareros on February 13, 2017, 11:31:51 AM
Shocking management skills by McStay telling media that Niall Daly left because he wasn't guaranteed a starting place. I doubt that's the full truth and a poor attempt by manager to portray himself as innocent party and player as guilty party. A young experimental Donegal team scored 16 points against us, and should have been 1-22 - and the manager is at this crack with one of our best if not best backs. Monaghan and Cavan despite the snore fest yesterday are likely stronger than Donegal. Still a lot of positives yesterday but will never get anywhere with the amounts we are conceding.

Find out the full truths before going on a national forum slating the manager.

All public domain Oliver thanks to the manager speaking to the media.

The truth is McStay went to the media and painted a picture that Niall Daly went off in a huff because he wasn't starting, and further that he was now taking time off to decide whether he wanted to fight for his place. That's a shocking thing to say. It was very similar to what John O'Mahony did in the media with Ciaran McDonald, didn't want to attend trials to fight for his place. Niall Daly and his brothers have played for Roscommon all through under-age, and have always fought for their place. They don't need to be belittled like this in the media - especially by a manager whose championship record so far is getting hammered by Clare, and hanging on to beat New York by a point.

I don t think O Mahoney and McDonald should be dragged in here. Asking McDonald to attend trials was either stupidity or a cynical ploy. Not sure which is worse. Niall Daly is not a Ciaran McDonald. Not a good analogy.Anyway Johnno managed to drive us back into the stone age, and while we recovered quickly after, those lost years cost us imo. The other thing that springs to mind is Mick McCarty dropping Denis Irwin and asking Irwin to prove himself/ 'prove me wrong' - depending whose version you believe.
But the bottom line is that McStay should have said nothing to the media. This nonsense of players fighting for their place is bullshit really and surprised managers go down that line. It should be about players able to perform and compete at a required level and able to do what they are asked to do if they are starting or coming on as a sub. It's bad if a lad sulks if he is not starting and even worse if a manager panders to the idea that starting a match is a rewardl in itself.

Exactly. Daly can be bothered to track back.

Jasus Syf ,do you wake up every day with the sole purpose of posting some thing more stupid than the previous day?

We all need goals in life.

Quote from: maigheo on February 14, 2017, 01:52:52 AM
Jasus Syf ,do you wake up every day with the sole purpose of posting some thing more stupid than the previous day?

He has a fair oul success rate  ;D

Unlike my fellow Mayomen on the banter page, I have no interest in how much other teams beat other teams by. I certainly don't revel in it. Something must be seriously rotten in the County of Roscommon when they shipped a 21 point defeat last night. Is it all McStay's fault? Or has FOD stepping down caused the malaise?

Roscommin were too swift removing John Evans, got them promoted 2 years ago. He was removed because of championship results when they had a load of injuries.  Not like they improved last year.

Quote from: rodney trotter on March 26, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
Roscommin were too swift removing John Evans, got them promoted 2 years ago. He was removed because of championship results when they had a load of injuries.  Not like they improved last year.

The problem I see with Roscommon is that they're just not good enough, they've had a lot of hype and certain elements of their support on here would tend to feel that they are big players.

A lot of commentary seems to focus on the failings of managers, injuries, internal conflict etc as the reason for disappointing performances. The real reason for the disappointing performances is down to the players, from what I've seen they are overhyped and a lot of that seems to have gone to their heads. I'm surprised at the lack of criticism the players seem to have got now, they've struggled along for the past 4 years now, three different management sides but little upturn in performances or results - just excuses being pedaled for the the under performing players.

I don't think McStay is a good manager and tactically they looked an absolute rabble last night but realistically what's a manager going to do with them. What are realistic expectations for Roscommon. I think they're miles behind Mayo and even Galway. The gap between Sligo and Leitrim to Roscommon is probably much closer than the gap between Roscommon to Galway and Mayo.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Unlike my fellow Mayomen on the banter page, I have no interest in how much other teams beat other teams by. I certainly don't revel in it. Something must be seriously rotten in the County of Roscommon when they shipped a 21 point defeat last night. Is it all McStay's fault? Or has FOD stepping down caused the malaise?

I don't gloat either. I sympathise with all decent Rossies who must be shell shocked this morning. I actually like Roscommon and  I'd I'd back them against any side bar my own- (with the possible exception of Sligo and Leitrim.)
Given that the population of the county was just over 64k at the time of the last census and that of Dublin was 1.345 million, the end result was never in doubt but the winning margin did neither team any good. I don't want to keep harping here that the shafting of John Evan was a bad idea and the subsequent results bear this out. Fact is that things haven't gone well for Roscommon since the time a few players got a bit pissed in Donegal and the red top newsrags went to town on the story. Dunno where they go from there but I do think when the management duo parted ways last year, the wrong one was let go.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 26, 2017, 02:01:13 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Unlike my fellow Mayomen on the banter page, I have no interest in how much other teams beat other teams by. I certainly don't revel in it. Something must be seriously rotten in the County of Roscommon when they shipped a 21 point defeat last night. Is it all McStay's fault? Or has FOD stepping down caused the malaise?

I don't gloat either. I sympathise with all decent Rossies who must be shell shocked this morning. I actually like Roscommon and  I'd I'd back them against any side bar my own- (with the possible exception of Sligo and Leitrim.)
Given that the population of the county was just over 64k at the time of the last census and that of Dublin was 1.345 million, the end result was never in doubt but the winning margin did neither team any good. I don't want to keep harping here that the shafting of John Evan was a bad idea and the subsequent results bear this out. Fact is that things haven't gone well for Roscommon since the time a few players got a bit pissed in Donegal and the red top newsrags went to town on the story. Dunno where they go from there but I do think when the management duo parted ways last year, the wrong one was let go.

Cork have the second biggest playing population in the country, of over half a million. Roscommon beat them very easily last year. I don't remember anyone bringing up population sizes last year, when the Rossies were riding high on their league success. Population size matters eff all, if you send out a poorly prepared, poorly coached, poorly condtioned, poorly motivated and poorly managed team. Cork's current lack of success and Dublins barren years pre 2011 prove that. If Roscommon are going to blame last nights debacle on population size and, not look to rectify other shortcomings, then Roscommon are going to continue to flounder.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 26, 2017, 02:01:13 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Unlike my fellow Mayomen on the banter page, I have no interest in how much other teams beat other teams by. I certainly don't revel in it. Something must be seriously rotten in the County of Roscommon when they shipped a 21 point defeat last night. Is it all McStay's fault? Or has FOD stepping down caused the malaise?

I don't gloat either. I sympathise with all decent Rossies who must be shell shocked this morning. I actually like Roscommon and  I'd I'd back them against any side bar my own- (with the possible exception of Sligo and Leitrim.)
Given that the population of the county was just over 64k at the time of the last census and that of Dublin was 1.345 million, the end result was never in doubt but the winning margin did neither team any good. I don't want to keep harping here that the shafting of John Evan was a bad idea and the subsequent results bear this out. Fact is that things haven't gone well for Roscommon since the time a few players got a bit pissed in Donegal and the red top newsrags went to town on the story. Dunno where they go from there but I do think when the management duo parted ways last year, the wrong one was let go.

Far from being shell-shocked, it was totally expected. I'm sure plenty in the county made a few pound betting on Dublin to cover the spread too. Losing just as easily to a far worse side at McHale was the shell-shock moment.

None of ye have any hope against Dublin this year and if ye think otherwise yer only codding yourselves and nobody else.

Quote from: Syferus on March 26, 2017, 02:51:40 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 26, 2017, 02:01:13 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Unlike my fellow Mayomen on the banter page, I have no interest in how much other teams beat other teams by. I certainly don't revel in it. Something must be seriously rotten in the County of Roscommon when they shipped a 21 point defeat last night. Is it all McStay's fault? Or has FOD stepping down caused the malaise?

I don't gloat either. I sympathise with all decent Rossies who must be shell shocked this morning. I actually like Roscommon and  I'd I'd back them against any side bar my own- (with the possible exception of Sligo and Leitrim.)
Given that the population of the county was just over 64k at the time of the last census and that of Dublin was 1.345 million, the end result was never in doubt but the winning margin did neither team any good. I don't want to keep harping here that the shafting of John Evan was a bad idea and the subsequent results bear this out. Fact is that things haven't gone well for Roscommon since the time a few players got a bit pissed in Donegal and the red top newsrags went to town on the story. Dunno where they go from there but I do think when the management duo parted ways last year, the wrong one was let go.

Far from being shell-shocked, it was totally expected. I'm sure plenty in the county made a few pound betting on Dublin to cover the spread too. Losing just as easily to a far worse side at McHale was the shell-shock moment.

None of ye have any hope against Dublin this year and if ye think otherwise yer only codding yourselves and nobody else.

You'd be an expert on codding yourself.

Well Lar - I needless to say believe we kept the wrong half if the pair.
I won't replay the whole saga of the shenanigans that went on but we are rightly fckd now anyway. 

Quote from: Lar Naparka on March 26, 2017, 02:01:13 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Unlike my fellow Mayomen on the banter page, I have no interest in how much other teams beat other teams by. I certainly don't revel in it. Something must be seriously rotten in the County of Roscommon when they shipped a 21 point defeat last night. Is it all McStay's fault? Or has FOD stepping down caused the malaise?

I don't gloat either. I sympathise with all decent Rossies who must be shell shocked this morning. I actually like Roscommon and  I'd I'd back them against any side bar my own- (with the possible exception of Sligo and Leitrim.)
Given that the population of the county was just over 64k at the time of the last census and that of Dublin was 1.345 million, the end result was never in doubt but the winning margin did neither team any good. I don't want to keep harping here that the shafting of John Evan was a bad idea and the subsequent results bear this out. Fact is that things haven't gone well for Roscommon since the time a few players got a bit pissed in Donegal and the red top newsrags went to town on the story. Dunno where they go from there but I do think when the management duo parted ways last year, the wrong one was let go.

I dunno Lar. FOD had a cut at it before. Sheerin - who tore into McStay - was on the sideline with Tony Mac. when Roscommon took a bit of a walloping in McHale Park back in 99, when they thought they were on their uppers.
I thought Roscommon started well enough and with good intent against the Dubs but were just overwhelmed.  They have players that can play but not at Dublin's level - yet anyway. The Murtagh's and the Smiths will give you moments of quality but too many are not good enough. Especially defenders and midfield. None of their 1-9 would be an asses roar near a Mayo team, never mind a Dublin team. And I'd include a legend like Seanie McDermott in that at this stage of his career.
I have no sympathy for McStay either. He went into this with his eyes wide shut. Above all people he should have known what task he faced. He's been around long enough to know what happens when you're on a sideline and things go pearshaped.
Also Fergie was there last year when they lost badly against Galway and Clare in the championship. Really the board should have got rid of the lot at that stage and started again.

Roscommon are the only team in the top two divisions that don't play any sort of a defensive system. No signs of any structure to their defence and they give the opposition so much time and room on the ball to either kick pass or shoot for points. In that type of chaos even Dublin or Mayos best individual defender would look average in.

League football is there to show signs of encouragement for the championship ahead yet for Roscommon they seem to be getting worse the longer the league has gone on. Don't care how good Dublin are when you lose any game by 21 points and concede 2-29 you have simply down your tools. Biggest concern for McStay is he seems to have lost the dressing room before the championship looking at him in recent interviews I don't think he believes half the nonsense he says it sounds scripted and he looks to have aged 10 years in the last 12 months.

The joint management was given 3 years but lasted 1 year in hindsight they should have done 2 years and if it didn't work out then both McStay and O Donnell should have left together and then have a fresh start in 2018 .

What was it about Ros last year? Did they start training before everyone else? The league performances were very encouraging but championship was very disappointing. This year they have fallen away altogether and it is not nice to see. There were a good few retirements but how many would have been management related ?

I thought Ros might replace MGHU as the team from Connacht most likely to win Sam but it doesn't look like the case at the moment.

Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
What was it about Ros last year? Did they start training before everyone else? The league performances were very encouraging but championship was very disappointing. This year they have fallen away altogether and it is not nice to see. There were a good few retirements but how many would have been management related ?

I thought Ros might replace MGHU as the team from Connacht most likely to win Sam but it doesn't look like the case at the moment.

Yes they started training way earlier last year but a lot of the good early results could be down to they way the team was after the faboulous work John Evans done with team as the longer last years management went on and this year the worse we are getting. In the early parts of last year we played similar type football as we had under Evans but after getting beat by Mayo in the bog we changed our game plan and tried use a micky mouse defensive plan and slowed the whole thing up. Since then things have only gotten worse.

One player has opted out due to management and thats Niall Daly who was part of the panel until he lost his position for Donegal game and opted out. His brothers wernt asked back onto panel after leaving during championship last year to go to the states( Both should have been its a joke they were never asked back). Donie Shine and David Keenan were dropped before the year started but both should be still involved IMO. James McDermott and Sean Purcell were dropped but neither were good enough although there are lads at same level still involved. Niall Carty,Senan kilbride and Geff Claffey retired, Nialls body didnt allow him to train last year and he was doing himself harm trying to reach level required for county football. Cathal Cregg was studing and working and couldnt commit in early half of the year, He is due to get married at end of the year and has a baby coming in next month or two so couldnt commit( Some believe if a different manager was in charge he would) and Neil collins is due to go travelling and is trying get his fashion business up and runnings so couldnt commit.

Would love to see Evans come back but dont think that will ever happen and certainly wont under current chairman who organised the heeve to get rid of him. After kevin it looks like Nigel Dineen will probably get the job. So extremely worrying times ahead too although he wouldnt be doing any worse than we are now.

Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
What was it about Ros last year? Did they start training before everyone else? The league performances were very encouraging but championship was very disappointing. This year they have fallen away altogether and it is not nice to see. There were a good few retirements but how many would have been management related ?

McStay's after match interview on Saturday implied that they have deliberately under-prepared for the league this year, because they were so well prepared last year, and it backfired in championship. Not sure when exactly he expects them to get fitter and better.

But being in the position of only having to beat Leitrim/London to get to a provincial championship final does mean they can legitimately try a completely different preparation.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if Leitrim took them in the Connacht semi. But at the same stage, if they sneak past Leitrim, they would be massive underdogs v Mayo in the Connacht final (especially as Mayo will bury Galway well I expect) and then the Rossies could well put in a big performance.

Quote from: Hound on March 27, 2017, 11:47:09 AM

Quote from: seafoid on March 27, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
What was it about Ros last year? Did they start training before everyone else? The league performances were very encouraging but championship was very disappointing. This year they have fallen away altogether and it is not nice to see. There were a good few retirements but how many would have been management related ?

McStay's after match interview on Saturday implied that they have deliberately under-prepared for the league this year, because they were so well prepared last year, and it backfired in championship. Not sure when exactly he expects them to get fitter and better.

But being in the position of only having to beat Leitrim/London to get to a provincial championship final does mean they can legitimately try a completely different preparation.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if Leitrim took them in the Connacht semi. But at the same stage, if they sneak past Leitrim, they would be massive underdogs v Mayo in the Connacht final (especially as Mayo will bury Galway well I expect) and then the Rossies could well put in a big performance.

11 week gap between end of league and leitrim/London game so plenty of time to get fit but we have seen zero evidence of a gameplan or defensive structure so far and still no consitancy on a spine of the team.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2017, 10:32:11 AM
Roscommon are the only team in the top two divisions that don't play any sort of a defensive system. No signs of any structure to their defence and they give the opposition so much time and room on the ball to either kick pass or shoot for points. In that type of chaos even Dublin or Mayos best individual defender would look average in.

League football is there to show signs of encouragement for the championship ahead yet for Roscommon they seem to be getting worse the longer the league has gone on. Don't care how good Dublin are when you lose any game by 21 points and concede 2-29 you have simply down your tools. Biggest concern for McStay is he seems to have lost the dressing room before the championship looking at him in recent interviews I don't think he believes half the nonsense he says it sounds scripted and he looks to have aged 10 years in the last 12 months.

The joint management was given 3 years but lasted 1 year in hindsight they should have done 2 years and if it didn't work out then both McStay and O Donnell should have left together and then have a fresh start in 2018 .

McStay should have put in a proper defensive structure. Probably fluting around with the stuff Liam was at with Mayo back in 2004 and we all know how that ended that September. Can't see McStay change now though.

Quote from: moysider on March 27, 2017, 12:52:25 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2017, 10:32:11 AM
Roscommon are the only team in the top two divisions that don't play any sort of a defensive system. No signs of any structure to their defence and they give the opposition so much time and room on the ball to either kick pass or shoot for points. In that type of chaos even Dublin or Mayos best individual defender would look average in.

League football is there to show signs of encouragement for the championship ahead yet for Roscommon they seem to be getting worse the longer the league has gone on. Don't care how good Dublin are when you lose any game by 21 points and concede 2-29 you have simply down your tools. Biggest concern for McStay is he seems to have lost the dressing room before the championship looking at him in recent interviews I don't think he believes half the nonsense he says it sounds scripted and he looks to have aged 10 years in the last 12 months.

The joint management was given 3 years but lasted 1 year in hindsight they should have done 2 years and if it didn't work out then both McStay and O Donnell should have left together and then have a fresh start in 2018 .

McStay should have put in a proper defensive structure. Probably fluting around with the stuff Liam was at with Mayo back in 2004 and we all know how that ended that September. Can't see McStay change now though.

Last time we were relegated we won Connacht, Moy.

Yer not exactly looking like yer up to much yerselves..

Oliver has some love affair going with Johneen Evans.
If he's that good I presume he's been snapped up by some other County.
As for McStay McHale. .... major disappointment to put it mildly.
No game plan,  no defence strategy, no sign of improvement or settled 3,6,8,9,14 after 6 NFL games, opposite g forwards getting loads of shooting practice, lot of better players sitting at home.....
And now we're hearing waffle about 3 year plans.
Got news for you Kevin - you're half way through it already and we're regressing at a rate of knots.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2017, 05:21:23 PM
Oliver has some love affair going with Johneen Evans.
If he's that good I presume he's been snapped up by some other County.
As for McStay McHale. .... major disappointment to put it mildly.
No game plan,  no defence strategy, no sign of improvement or settled 3,6,8,9,14 after 6 NFL games, opposite g forwards getting loads of shooting practice, lot of better players sitting at home.....
And now we're hearing waffle about 3 year plans.
Got news for you Kevin - you're half way through it already and we're regressing at a rate of knots.

The reason I have such a big opinion of Evans is because he is the only senior manager we have made progress under in last 15 years.  No he hasn't been snapped up by anyone yet I am sure now that his wife is recovering he may look for a job for next year and I am sure he will get one if it suits.

McStay/McHale have been a disaster so far like it was last year with O Donnell/Casey/Bohan/McStay/McHale. Similar to last year were we played backs in midfield we have now started to play forwards/Midfielders in the backs. At least we are saving ourselves 100 thousand plus on management this year I suppose

We could have saved another 100k if we had cleared the other pair out as well and appointed any club manager in Roscommon.
They couldn't do any worse anyway and could be just given vouched expenses and a few free dinners.

Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2017, 05:40:09 PM
We could have saved another 100k if we had cleared the other pair out as well and appointed any club manager in Roscommon.
They couldn't do any worse anyway and could be just given vouched expenses and a few free dinners.

Totally agree that should have been done. And agree any club manager would do no worse and probably better than we are currently. Tbh the money is mad what was given to all 5 lads involved last year I was surprised to hear the Roscommon born lads were even looking for money never mind the amount the got I would have taught basic expenses would have been enough to lads involved with managing there own county

Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2017, 05:21:23 PM
Oliver has some love affair going with Johneen Evans.
If he's that good I presume he's been snapped up by some other County.
As for McStay McHale. .... major disappointment to put it mildly.
No game plan,  no defence strategy, no sign of improvement or settled 3,6,8,9,14 after 6 NFL games, opposite g forwards getting loads of shooting practice, lot of better players sitting at home.....
And now we're hearing waffle about 3 year plans.
Got news for you Kevin - you're half way through it already and we're regressing at a rate of knots.

TOR is as settled at 8 as any player on the team.

Quote from: Syferus on March 27, 2017, 03:15:14 PM

Quote from: moysider on March 27, 2017, 12:52:25 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2017, 10:32:11 AM
Roscommon are the only team in the top two divisions that don't play any sort of a defensive system. No signs of any structure to their defence and they give the opposition so much time and room on the ball to either kick pass or shoot for points. In that type of chaos even Dublin or Mayos best individual defender would look average in.

League football is there to show signs of encouragement for the championship ahead yet for Roscommon they seem to be getting worse the longer the league has gone on. Don't care how good Dublin are when you lose any game by 21 points and concede 2-29 you have simply down your tools. Biggest concern for McStay is he seems to have lost the dressing room before the championship looking at him in recent interviews I don't think he believes half the nonsense he says it sounds scripted and he looks to have aged 10 years in the last 12 months.

The joint management was given 3 years but lasted 1 year in hindsight they should have done 2 years and if it didn't work out then both McStay and O Donnell should have left together and then have a fresh start in 2018 .

McStay should have put in a proper defensive structure. Probably fluting around with the stuff Liam was at with Mayo back in 2004 and we all know how that ended that September. Can't see McStay change now though.

Last time we were relegated we won Connacht, Moy.

Yer not exactly looking like yer up to much yerselves..

If we stay up we'll be doing nicely for the time of year. Happy out with a lot of what I've seen. Plenty time to work on the rest.

Quote from: oliverkelly on March 27, 2017, 05:31:43 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on March 27, 2017, 05:21:23 PM
Oliver has some love affair going with Johneen Evans.
If he's that good I presume he's been snapped up by some other County.
As for McStay McHale. .... major disappointment to put it mildly.
No game plan,  no defence strategy, no sign of improvement or settled 3,6,8,9,14 after 6 NFL games, opposite g forwards getting loads of shooting practice, lot of better players sitting at home.....
And now we're hearing waffle about 3 year plans.
Got news for you Kevin - you're half way through it already and we're regressing at a rate of knots.

The reason I have such a big opinion of Evans is because he is the only senior manager we have made progress under in last 15 years.  No he hasn't been snapped up by anyone yet I am sure now that his wife is recovering he may look for a job for next year and I am sure he will get one if it suits.

Heard he  has  been involved with Fossa Gaa (the 4th club in Killarney) His nephews play with them. His nephew is apparently David Clifford the Kerry underage star. Lot of talk the nephew will be off to Oz next year.

What happened Roscommon over the last year? Were they just fitter  than everyone in the 2016 League? I was reading this article the other day and it's so strange that they had such a bad league this year


http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/roscommon-s-rise-adds-intrigue-to-connacht-battle-1.2572975
Roscommon's rise adds intrigue to Connacht battle

March 2016

The Allianz Football League is threatening to become more unpredictable than the All-Ireland championship. When the fixtures for this year's programme were announced, the smart forecast was that Roscommon would probably need a win against neighbours Mayo in order to survive.
Instead, Kevin McStay will return to MacHale Park in the knowledge that a fifth win in a stunningly confident campaign might well consign his home county to a year in Division Two. Given he went for the Mayo post two years ago along with current Roscommon selector Liam McHale, the day is bound to stir mixed emotions.
"It's not personal," McStay says. "I don't want to understate me playing my own county, or overstate it either. These are very important games but in terms of excitement these games are what they are. For our team, it's another great part of their development. Mayo . . . great team, Mayo. It'll tell us in two weeks' time how far we are behind, if we are even behind."
Straight bat
McStay has played a straight bat all through this league, understandably crestfallen after Roscommon's narrow loss on opening day and delighted with the returns since. It wasn't so much the fact of Sunday's win in Letterkenny against Donegal that impressed as the manner of it. This was no dour, hang-on-for-dear-life scrap on the road. A playbook of 1-19, filled with quality scores and just four wides. Their confidence could not be higher.
"We started looking like a Division One team who deserves on merit to be here," says McStay of their latest win. "That's my sense of it. This win – of the wins – is the best of them. When we beat Kerry we weren't 100 per cent sure where they were. I'm not sure about Killarney; there were shocking conditions.
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"But I think we know Donegal were trying to get points there. Look at the players they used. It was a good day for football and now we know we can play a brand of football that can survive in this division.
"Maybe I'm going to get a rude awakening or we're going to be found out. But I don't think so. We're just giving it our best cut all the time. We're a very honest group."
League form comes with all kinds of health warnings – many of them issued by the form teams themselves. The refreshing thing about Roscommon is that they are not disguising that these games matter in their own right.
McStay and co-manager Fergal O'Donnell have made no secret of the fact they were prioritising a strong league season. Under John Evans, the Rossie's climbed from Division Three to Division One. Staying in the top eight matters. Mickey Harte's observation – that winning an All-Ireland from Division Two is all but impossible – carried clout. People are watching Roscommon now with one eye on the Connacht championship, which Mayo are seeking to retain for the sixth successive summer.
With Galway on a roll in Division Two, Roscommon are forcing the bookies to review their early price offers. It is March, yes, but Roscommon are travelling at a rate of knots. Castlrea's Geoffrey Claffey is back in the team after a couple of season's absence. The Roscommon defence was so sticky that the goalkeeper didn't have a single chance to practise his shot-stopping skills. That action was at the other end. If Roscommon can scold themselves for anything, it is for not leaving Donegal with more goals.
"I think their goalkeeper did quite well for a few of them," says Claffey. "So at least we are creating the chances. We kept doing the simple things well and kept to our gameplan. That is something that we are probably learning from the better teams . . . they keep doing the simple things well.
Simple things
"Monaghan, in the first round of the league, although I suppose they were under quite a bit of pressure at the time, kept trying to do the simple things well and it got them over the line. So we are just trying to do that ourselves. And we are conscious that if we get it in there, our forwards are able to kick the scores."
McStay acknowledges Roscommon were clearly on a different plane of fitness to Donegal. "They can look further down the year than we can. And that's fine. They deserve that as they've been champions."
Those discrepancies will have disappeared in the summer. The league is all about smoke and mirrors: most teams aren't willing to fully show their hand just now. Roscommon are at the place where Donegal were in 2011: running hard and with enthusiasm, discovering as much as they can about themselves. They are the first team out in the championship, with a visit to New York on May 1st.
"I don't want to talk too much about other teams," says McStay. "For us, [the Donegal game] was championship Sunday. That's the only way we can go. Who would we be to take anything lightly?"

We're playing club Championships these days.
County lads supposed to be doing savage training.
And we have a 3 year plan.
So move along Seafóid -nothing to see here.

Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2017, 12:53:20 PM
What happened Roscommon over the last year? Were they just fitter  than everyone in the 2016 League? I was reading this article the other day and it's so strange that they had such a bad league this year

Basically they overachieved somewhat in the league last year and the media basically created a bit of a story off the back of it.

They narrowly beat a Kerry team in Kerry that was barely back training and had a few lads who haven't been seen in a Kerry geansai since, they then followed this up by hammering the cr@p out of Cork in Cork (the only teams Cork have beaten since then have been Monaghan, Down,Limerick, Longford, Fermanagh and Derry - the list of teams Cork have lost to or have failed to beat since then is Dublin, Kerry, Tipperary, Donegal, Galway, Kildare, Clare, Meath, which says a lot about where Cork are at recently and how much real value a win over them represents) then they handed out a serious beating to Down and then got a decent win (5 points) against a Donegal side in Donegal who were very slow out of the blocks on the day and had no real desire in terms of getting to the league playoff stages (they barely bothered to show up against Dublin in the semi-final). The four wins in a row (especially with 3 of them away wins) caused expectations to increase but out of the four wins both Cork and Down got relegated, both had miserable championships last year and both were in the relegation mix in Division 2 this year.  The Kerry game was typical of Kerry under Fitzmaurice in the league in that their form tends to fluctuate a lot (the 10 point stroll in the league semi against the same opposition 2 months later being a perfect example of this)

Cork would have stayed up last year if they didn't receive such a hammering off Roscommon. Monaghan,Mayo on scoring difference stayed up instead by the skin of their teeth. I'm not sure of stats but I'd say few teams had good championships after division 1 relegation and down and Cork struggling in division 2 this year is a warning to Roscommon though I do think the rossies will fare better in the league next year if the 3 Dalys,C Cregg,N Collins etc return.

Will they return if present management still there I wonder?
We could certainly do with them .......

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2017, 03:59:53 PM
Will they return if present management still there I wonder?
We could certainly do with them .......

Weren't you one of the ones lampooning 'Cregger'? Your tune changed quick sharp..

Don't "lampoon" our lads.
Just didn't think he was as good as you used to make him out to be in your usual hyperbolic fashion.
We'd have a stronger panel if him, Collins the 2 Shines and 3 Dalys were included.
Anyway your cool clean hero has  3 year plan so everything will be just grand

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2017, 04:47:48 PM
Don't "lampoon" our lads.
Just didn't think he was as good as you used to make him out to be in your usual hyperbolic fashion.
We'd have a stronger panel if him, Collins the 2 Shines and 3 Dalys were included.
Anyway your cool clean hero has  3 year plan so everything will be just grand

You can hardly blame the management for either of the Shines' absences, and Collins was never going to be able to play for the county from America, but continue to try and lump very different situations together to suit your one note agenda.

My only agenda is for Ros to have their best players on the panel, properly trained for Senior IC football, with some semblance of a game plan and tactics.
I haven't seen much evidence of that this year but live in hope.......
Meanwhile you continue with the hero worship and attack anyone that doesn't blindly have the same view.

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2017, 06:32:09 PM
My only agenda is for Ros to have their best players on the panel, properly trained for Senior IC football, with some semblance of a game plan and tactics.
I haven't seen much evidence of that this year but live in hope.......
Meanwhile you continue with the hero worship and attack anyone that doesn't blindly have the same view.

What you call hero worship is done who has continually criticised our defence and lack of conversion up front.

The real problem you have is I'm not a walking caricature that's willing to make snide comments or basically attack the manager on a personal level because of a few bad results.

Some here would do well to remember this is just sport and we're talking about actual people.

Quote from: Syferus on May 09, 2017, 07:03:52 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2017, 06:32:09 PM
My only agenda is for Ros to have their best players on the panel, properly trained for Senior IC football, with some semblance of a game plan and tactics.
I haven't seen much evidence of that this year but live in hope.......
Meanwhile you continue with the hero worship and attack anyone that doesn't blindly have the same view.

What you call hero worship is done who has continually criticised our defence and lack of conversion up front.

The real problem you have is I'm not a walking caricature that's willing to make snide comments or basically attack the manager on a personal level because of a few bad results.

Some here would do well to remember this is just sport and we're talking about actual people.

McStay's inability to retain the services of, for example, the Dalys is not a personal criticism - it's a valid criticism of his management. Kevin has not been slow to make snide comments in the press himself, labelling the players who have not come back as responsible for some of the results last year, even though neither Ronan or Conor Daly were involved in the New York, Galway and Clare fiascos. And Niall was one of our consistently best performers.

You yourself are very quick to pick on Nigel for his criticism of players in the press.

McStay as a media pundit spent a lot of his time disparaging referees - and loved to have a good old whinge at the ones that "wronged" Mayo. Indeed, when he won the All-Ireland with Bridget's, he criticised the ref in his post-match speech for being biased because he was from Armagh.

He also criticised the Mayo players as sensitive souls when they objected to him and McStay

So hopefully he'll understand if we criticise some of his failings as a manager, and the inability to hold on to some of the better players is up there. BTW, has he still blacklisted Shannonside for Gay's criticism?

Like all supporters, hope he can prove us wrong this Summer. He still has a wonderful set of players at his disposal and we should be expecting better than we are getting. But it could be a lot better with a full panel.

Quote from: weareros on May 09, 2017, 07:48:06 PM

Quote from: Syferus on May 09, 2017, 07:03:52 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2017, 06:32:09 PM
My only agenda is for Ros to have their best players on the panel, properly trained for Senior IC football, with some semblance of a game plan and tactics.
I haven't seen much evidence of that this year but live in hope.......
Meanwhile you continue with the hero worship and attack anyone that doesn't blindly have the same view.

What you call hero worship is done who has continually criticised our defence and lack of conversion up front.

The real problem you have is I'm not a walking caricature that's willing to make snide comments or basically attack the manager on a personal level because of a few bad results.

Some here would do well to remember this is just sport and we're talking about actual people.

McStay's inability to retain the services of, for example, the Dalys is not a personal criticism - it's a valid criticism of his management. Kevin has not been slow to make snide comments in the press himself, labelling the players who have not come back as responsible for some of the results last year, even though neither Ronan or Conor Daly were involved in the New York, Galway and Clare fiascos. And Niall was one of our consistently best performers.

You yourself are very quick to pick on Nigel for his criticism of players in the press.

McStay as a media pundit spent a lot of his time disparaging referees - and loved to have a good old whinge at the ones that "wronged" Mayo. Indeed, when he won the All-Ireland with Bridget's, he criticised the ref in his post-match speech for being biased because he was from Armagh.

He also criticised the Mayo players as sensitive souls when they objected to him and McStay

So hopefully he'll understand if we criticise some of his failings as a manager, and the inability to hold on to some of the better players is up there. BTW, has he still blacklisted Shannonside for Gay's criticism?

Like all supporters, hope he can prove us wrong this Summer. He still has a wonderful set of players at his disposal and we should be expecting better than we are getting. But it could be a lot better with a full panel.

I've very quick to 'pick' on a lad who rounded on his own players after a match? What Dineen did was worse than anything McStay has done.

McStay's biggest problem in the media is he's been too honest, that he doesn't just offer the trite nonsense you hear from others. I remember people complained when we had Evans giving it full-blast Kerry cute hoorisms to the media too, I think it's pretty obvious people in this county will find something to complain about regardless. He could have handled the Niall Daly situation better, but outside that most of the decisions were out of his control anyways. It's very easy to blame the manager for everything when something happens, even more easy in a county known throughout the country to rip managers to pieces.

Shannonside never retracted Gay's xenophobic rant as far as I'm aware, which was the only condition they needed to meet for relations to be repaired. Why they haven't says more about them than it does about McStay, to be honest.

Where you got the idea that the Daly situation is the personal criticism I'm talking about, lord only knows. What I'm talking about are the cheap shots at McStay without any evidence besides he was born in Mayo is beyond me. Some in the county seem to genuinely think he's in the job for money when he's retired from an officer's job in the military and took leave of very handy money in the media without any of the stress of actually putting your neck on the line. For what? Some golden pot of money from a CB that's barely able to field underage teams? Whatever McStay is getting it's not going to be so much more than he could get from other avenues.

Good post by weareros.
If KMcS is only getting expenses from the CB he'll cost about €5k.
Fair play to him ::)

Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2017, 09:36:31 PM
Good post by weareros.
If KMcS is only getting expenses from the CB he'll cost about €5k.
Fair play to him ::)

Show me where I said that. Your ability to selectively read what you want to hear is incredible.

Did I mention you or your arse kicking ramblings anywhere?
We all heard (and read in this forum) what our manager us getting and we all know where it's coming from.
Enuf said  :-X

Not too subtle from our Galway neighbour to bring up threads like these, he might be better mulling over happenings closer to home

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation, if everyone involved isn't pulling in the same direction, it's very hard to make progress. Would have liked to see mcstay doing well even if it was with Ros but that seems unlikely at this stage.

We live in hope Mac......
The divisions started with the plot to dump Evans and were exacerbated by the plot to "disparage and undermine" Fergal and the Boyle boys.
We need to put in Kieran Mulvey as Cathaoirleach to try and restore harmony.

Quote from: Syferus on May 09, 2017, 09:02:30 PM

I've very quick to 'pick' on a lad who rounded on his own players after a match? What Dineen did was worse than anything McStay has done.

I don't recall Dineen personally identifying any player. Both McStay and McHale have done that.

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McStay's biggest problem in the media is he's been too honest, that he doesn't just offer the trite nonsense you hear from others.

Being honest or using the media to his advantage. When Niall Daly left the panel, McStay said that he left because he wasn't willing to fight for his place on the team. Now that to me smacked as using the media to set this agenda and in my opinion greatly disparaged Nial Daly. On the other players,  he described them as the players who had failed in the past. Honest, or setting an agenda?

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Shannonside never retracted Gay's xenophobic rant as far as I'm aware, which was the only condition they needed to meet for relations to be repaired. Why they haven't says more about them than it does about McStay, to be honest.

Calling that xenophobia is as bad as those who wanted Stephen Fry charged for blasphemy. I'd use that word for real xenophobia (ie racists who don't want refugees on their shores). What happened on Shannonside was a co-commentator expressing the opinion that he didn't like Mayomen in charge of Roscommon, based on the amount of players they'd alienated. Everyone agreed it was a daft comment. But it was an opinion and for McStay and Roscommon County Board to ban all interviews with Shannonside was an over the top move.  And the interview with Marty after the match in the hail was another example of using the media to make all the focus on his place of birth and not address the frustration of Roscommon supporters losing talented players like the Dalys. The ban is more absurd given that the Mayo players objected to McStay and McHale because of comments McHale made about them in the media and McStay said god bless their sensitive souls or something to that effect. Well god bless his own sensitive soul.

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Where you got the idea that the Daly situation is the personal criticism I'm talking about, lord only knows. What I'm talking about are the cheap shots at McStay without any evidence besides he was born in Mayo is beyond me.

One person said it, and hardly if anyone agreed with him. As people have said, now older people who depend on radio for their news and updates from management are denied that because of a big hissy fit over one man's comments.

As I said, I believe McStay has a very talented bunch of players at this disposal and should be contending for a Connacht title this year. I disagree with Gay Sheerin and believe he is very committed to the cause and always has been ver pro Roscommon as a media pundit. But I'd question his man management. The panel could be a lot stronger and he needs to find a way to build bridges with players like the Dalys again.

Counties like Roscommon with a great football tradition and fine support need everyone pulling together. Going back to times like losing Frankie Dolan etc is no use. They had a good league last year so their is potential. Croke Park for the August weekend is achievable