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#16
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
March 10, 2024, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 10, 2024, 10:13:05 AMI might be wrong, but I think that age group got wiped out by Donegal in the minor championship a couple of years ago and we had the same debate :(
was it not Tyrone minors  in Healy park put 8 goals past them in 2022.
#17
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 07, 2024, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on March 07, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)


Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion
#18
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
March 06, 2024, 03:25:38 PM
Hope I'm not out of order, but is that a brother of Niall Devlin that died in a Collision on the A5 last evening?
May he rest in peace and may his family have strength to deal with this tragedy. God Bless all of them.
#19
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
March 03, 2024, 04:29:47 PM
The forward mark is a blight on the game.




Except when Derry use it of course.
#20
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
March 03, 2024, 02:05:05 PM
I cant for the life of me see how DC escaped without some sort of card. Past instigators and perpetuators of a melee have been red carded.
#21
GAA Discussion / Re: Division 2 2024
March 01, 2024, 01:36:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2024, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 18, 2024, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 18, 2024, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 18, 2024, 03:49:05 PMThat was some rendition of Amhrán na bhFiann!

Proper gusto

Noticeably, nobody tried to sing along.

Armagh decent, Kildare rank.


Which match were you at? Great rendition of Amhrán na bhFiann at Corrigan Park too.

Was refereeing up the county, thats the problem with being a ref, you only get to see the game you're at!

But some Refs ( according to some opinions) appear to see games they are not at
#22
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling original
March 01, 2024, 01:03:21 PM
Quote from: toby47 on March 01, 2024, 11:24:47 AMWholesale changes for tomorrow's game, I didn't expect that from Mickey.

I was looking forward to a full strength battle v Dublin after their performance last week.

No game for 2 weeks after tomorrow, couldn't have given many lads a rest from training, or gave lads a run at home to Roscommon in the last game.

Where can I see the team sheet?
#23
Derry v Dublin - Derry
Mayo v Roscommon - Roscommon
Kerry v Tyrone - Kerry
Monaghan v Galway - Galway

Fermanagh v Armagh - Armagh
Cavan v Meath - Cavan
Donegal v Louth - Donegal
Cork v Kildare - Cork

Limerick v Clare - Clare
Antrim v Westmeath - Westmeath
Down v Sligo - Down
Offaly v Wicklow - Offaly

Carlow v Wexford -  Draw
Laois v London - Laois
Tipperary v Waterford - Tipp
Longford v Leitrim - Longford
#24
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
February 28, 2024, 04:41:36 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 28, 2024, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2024, 04:06:50 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 28, 2024, 01:12:00 PMBe a brave team takes him on tbh ..

Would say more about that club or county team if they appoint him as their manager in the future.

What has be proven guilty of?

We see all kinds of accusations against multiple politicians of every hue continue in positions of privilege funded by the taxpayer and no one bats an eyelid.
And not only politicians but corporate personnel  also
#25
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on February 28, 2024, 10:11:03 AMJim Boyce really hard done by, not let into a meeting he wasnt invited to and then sent to another lounge to watch football and eat food for free. It's shocking so it is the poor martyr

Imagine the affront.
Is there grounds for a compensation claim?
#26
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: lenny on February 27, 2024, 07:02:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on February 27, 2024, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2024, 10:12:11 AMDerryman forever, it's not a cheap shot at all.

This board goes back forever and a day.

Look at threads on rule changes from the early noughties and it's Donegal ones saying there's nothing wrong with the game. Look at the late noughties threads and it's all Dublin ones telling us that we should get better at football instead of trying to change the rules. The past few years it's Derry wans telling us that football is as good to watch now as it ever was.

With all due respect, I don't think people from your county are currently objective about the state of Gaelic Football. This isn't a criticism of Derry btw... you folks didn't create this mess and it's absolute credit that instead of whinging about it, you've caught up.

But football is shite. Absolute shite. That's our sport and it's absolute shite.


We were, but in our defense, it wasn't an obvious certainty (at least to me early on!) that the game would evolve in the manner in did following Jim's lead. I think back to our thrilling semis against Cork and Dublin, when they played open and allowed us to annihilate them on the break. By the 2016 Ulster Final, the writing was on the wall for me (that was like a pair of slow, giant sumo wrestlers going at it, rescued for Tyrone in injury time by three worldie points) and its only gotten worse. When we held the ball for the last 90 seconds of normal time in the 2022 Ulster Final, instead of trying to go for the winning score, I was pretty much done.

I read Jarlath's interview on GAA.ie and his plans for a root and branch look at how the game is played. Hope he succeeds, because I'm finding it hard to even watch Donegal these days. Aside from the freak of nature that is David Clifford, how many GAA stars could be considered among the top sports people in the country? As Burns alludes to when talking about skillful forwards being basically rendered obsolete, without his physique to go with his incredible skillset, would even Clifford be up there?

Clifford is arguably the best of all time. Current stars who would be among the top sports people in the country would surely include Conor Glass, Darragh Canavan, Shane Mcguigan, Con OCallaghan. A lot of people criticise the modern game saying there's no room for flair and marquee forwards don't get a chance but in recent games we've seen Con O'C score 3.4, Shane McGuigan 0.11 and canavan 1.5. There possibly are rules which could be tinkered with slightly but there's still a great game there and the crowds are still turning out to see the games.


I do believe limiting the number of players allowed to tackle the ball carrier at any one time would make a vast difference to the game.
It would give talented ball carriers and forwards a fair chance to  display their skills and would give confidence to the centre field players that a pass into their forwards will have a chance of reaping reward.
It is pitiful to see 3 and 4 players malling a forward and winning a free from it.
#27
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 12:26:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2024, 12:02:07 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on February 27, 2024, 10:44:59 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2024, 10:12:11 AMDerryman forever, it's not a cheap shot at all.

This board goes back forever and a day.

Look at threads on rule changes from the early noughties and it's Donegal ones saying there's nothing wrong with the game. Look at the late noughties threads and it's all Dublin ones telling us that we should get better at football instead of trying to change the rules. The past few years it's Derry wans telling us that football is as good to watch now as it ever was.

With all due respect, I don't think people from your county are currently objective about the state of Gaelic Football. This isn't a criticism of Derry btw... you folks didn't create this mess and it's absolute credit that instead of whinging about it, you've caught up.

But football is shite. Absolute shite. That's our sport and it's absolute shite.


Its begrudgery nothing more.

Derry are nothing special and wont be winning Sam anytime soon.
But almost every game does have moments of magic and you see these moments from previous games being used to say you never see this anymore.
Just recently I think it was Cahir O'kane highlighted impossible scores from deep in the pocket that are never tried anymore.
The following week Niall Toner pinned one from an even more Impossible angle.  But nobody highlighted it.

I advise that people actually sit down and watch the great games of yesterday with a critical mind.
Take the 1994 Ulster semi final Down and Derry. Hailed as one of the great games of the 90s. Perhaps it was.  I think it was ordinary enough, but was it better than last years Semifinal with Kerry and Derry?

This sort of discussion kind of reminds me of the Robin Williams and Matt Damon chat in Good Will Hunting.

Dismiss the quality of the 1994 match all you like.  Dismiss old football all you like.

Stats can tell you football has never been better.

But anybody who has experienced both the championship going experience of the 90s-00s, and that of today, and claims to prefer the latter, is either a liar or a wind up merchant.


So you are only allowed to reference past games if you consider them an example of how bad todays games are?

When your answer is "your a liar or wind up merchant" , you have lost the argument and don't deserve interaction with.

#28
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 10:44:59 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2024, 10:12:11 AMDerryman forever, it's not a cheap shot at all.

This board goes back forever and a day.

Look at threads on rule changes from the early noughties and it's Donegal ones saying there's nothing wrong with the game. Look at the late noughties threads and it's all Dublin ones telling us that we should get better at football instead of trying to change the rules. The past few years it's Derry wans telling us that football is as good to watch now as it ever was.

With all due respect, I don't think people from your county are currently objective about the state of Gaelic Football. This isn't a criticism of Derry btw... you folks didn't create this mess and it's absolute credit that instead of whinging about it, you've caught up.

But football is shite. Absolute shite. That's our sport and it's absolute shite.


Its begrudgery nothing more.

Derry are nothing special and wont be winning Sam anytime soon.
But almost every game does have moments of magic and you see these moments from previous games being used to say you never see this anymore.
Just recently I think it was Cahir O'kane highlighted impossible scores from deep in the pocket that are never tried anymore.
The following week Niall Toner pinned one from an even more Impossible angle.  But nobody highlighted it.

I advise that people actually sit down and watch the great games of yesterday with a critical mind.
Take the 1994 Ulster semi final Down and Derry. Hailed as one of the great games of the 90s. Perhaps it was.  I think it was ordinary enough, but was it better than last years Semifinal with Kerry and Derry?
#29
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 10:03:50 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2024, 08:56:55 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on February 27, 2024, 08:51:04 AMAny suggestion that Defenders or forwards  cant cross the half way line is simply laughable.
Half backs have been scoring  since adam wad a boy.

The biggest problem with football is negative commentary and too much  available to see and comment on.
Go back and watch games from the 70s , 80, and 90s. There were many Turgid affairs with very poor skills and no plan. Just hoof it as far as possible and hope.

The second biggest problem with football is that people from counties that are doing well, would quite happily sleep through a season of matches as long as their county wins Sam.

f**k whether the sport is in any way fun or entertaining, so long as we are winning.


The sport like any other needs maintenance.
But there are as many entertaining games now as there ever was.
There is simply much more of it on display and therefore more mediocre games to whinge about.
If you want to see more attacking football lets do something about the tackle. To see the ball carrier surrounded by 3 or four men in a mall and then blow them up for overcarrying is not right.
Simple answer, penalise the 3rd man in and give forwards a chance to display their abilities.
The centre field players will have more confidence in their forwards and more likely to play the ball in.

And cheap shots about which supporters county is doing well or not is just begrudgery not support.
Wise up.
#30
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 08:51:04 AM
Any suggestion that Defenders or forwards  cant cross the half way line is simply laughable.
Half backs have been scoring  since adam wad a boy.

The biggest problem with football is negative commentary and too much  available to see and comment on.
Go back and watch games from the 70s , 80, and 90s. There were many Turgid affairs with very poor skills and no plan. Just hoof it as far as possible and hope.